#612 - Pete Davidson

Summary

Podcast Summary: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von – Ep. 612: Pete Davidson

Release Date: September 23, 2025
Guest: Pete Davidson
Host: Theo Von

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Episode Overview

Theo Von sits down with comedian and actor Pete Davidson for a heartfelt, wide-ranging conversation about comedy, grief, touring, addiction, relationships, fame, and healing. The episode trades in the signature blend of humor and vulnerability from both men—moving from deadpan jokes and wild analogies to deep discussions of loss, mental health, and personal growth. At the time of this recording, Pete is preparing for his first major international tour and about to become a father.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Comedy, Role Models, and the Early Days

[01:22–03:12]

• Pete shares his podcast preferences and admiration for comedians like Paul Scheer and Jason Mantzoukas.
• The two riff on recognizable comedians and the diversity of comic personas.
• Pete discusses the grounding influence of mentors and older comics:

  "As I look back, that was what was cool about getting into comedy...I really looked up to them...most of my friends are like 40 and up, because I think that makes me feel safe." (16:15)

• Early friendships, e.g., Joey Gay, provided stability and connection.

2. Going on International Tour—Nerves and Logistics

[03:13–05:02]

• Pete is about to embark on his first international stand-up tour, hitting cities like Singapore, Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, Berlin, Amsterdam, London, Dublin, and Belfast.
• Expresses surprise and self-doubt about having fans abroad.

  "I can't believe that anybody would come see me over there." (03:22)

• Explains how the tour schedule (and agent Bert) shaped his path.

3. Performing in Places with Strict Speech Rules

[05:04–07:39]

• Discusses adjusting his act for Asian and Middle Eastern audiences (e.g., Singapore and Riyadh), where certain comedy topics are off-limits.
• Singapore in particular has an extensive list of topics he can’t cover:

  "It was pretty much my whole act. So I don't know what to do. I'm googling old sets from when I was like 20—just going to do the classics." (05:23)

• Jokes about doing sets borrowed from "clean" comics like Nate Bargatze.

4. Grief and Losing Their Fathers

[08:20–11:41]

• Pete describes the impact of losing his father, a firefighter who died in 9/11, and how that haunts and shapes him.
• Notable image: news photos of Pete’s dad in the first fire truck over the bridge (08:50).
• He discusses strangers approaching him with stories of his dad, and how he discerns truth in their eyes and smiles.
• Both Pete and Theo reflect on how losing a father at different ages affected them differently—sadness and information gaps for Pete (who was 7), existential awareness for Theo (whose dad was 86 when he died).

5. Mental Health, Depression, and Addiction

[23:36–26:33]

• Pete opens up about childhood suicide attempts and lifelong struggles with OCD and manic depression.
• Early attempts to cope led to drugs, and a recurring cycle of isolation and darker thoughts.
• Acceptance came after realizing that he needed to get well for himself—not for career, women, or even family.

"I need to want to be okay. If not, all this goes away... it can't be for standup, it can't be for this movie, it can't be for this girl. It can't even be for my family." (26:04)

6. Fame, Media Scrutiny, and the Internet Turning

[27:44–32:27 & 60:17–63:06]

• Pete shares the emotional whiplash from the public narrative shifting—initial sympathy for his story, then backlash.
• References tabloid stories about him "smoking crack and living with my mom" and the pain of reading negative speculation while in rehab.
• Discusses attempts to reconcile media narratives:

  "What really helped me was I would put someone else's name in the title of the article and see if I cared." (61:32)
  "No one reads that shit except people in our shit." (61:45)

• Both reflect on the cyclical nature of celebrity worship and cancel culture.

7. Healing, Relationships, and Family

[51:12–55:05]

• Pete is about to be a dad, speaks of his excitement and relief that it’s happening now that he’s in a healthier place.
• Talks about the difference between pressuring relationships to meet needs versus finding partnership after working on himself.
• Theo and Pete agree that being ready for family comes with inner work:

  "You can't go into stuff with, like, this needs to... That's a lot of pressure on your partner... my whole upbringing was like, that's how it works." (54:02)

8. Sober Life & Support Systems

[36:39–38:34, 41:52–42:01]

• Both speak on remaining sober, using meetings (12-step and otherwise), and learning patience and self-acceptance.
• Pete:

  "When you get rid of your friends [i.e. drugs], it's like what's left? It's like work. Nicotine... If you let go of too many things at once, it's not good for you." (37:15)

9. Connection to Art & Film

[78:39–81:59]

• Pete becomes animated discussing the movie "Frequency," which spoke to his own father-loss fantasy.
• Both men discuss how certain movies can feel deeply personal and healing; art fills gaps left by loss or trauma.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Early Grief:
  "There's a very famous shot... they were the first truck over the bridge... pretty much the whole house died." – Pete Davidson (08:50)
• On Patterns in Relationships:
  "Anybody that's ever actually loved me or cared about me has gotten the worst wrath from me." – Pete Davidson (29:28)
• On Public Perception:
  "I was like, all right, maybe part of that. Not all of that." – Pete Davidson, joking about tabloid rumors (27:47)
• On Internet Hate and Fame:
  "It was all going up and then it flipped and then it was like, fuck this dude. I hate this dude. And we're in the Internet age, so I'm reading all that shit." (25:23)
• On Tour Jitters:
  "I can't believe that anybody would come see me over there." – Pete Davidson (03:22)
• On Family & Becoming a Dad:
  "I'm super stoked to give this kid a happy childhood and be reliable... just be there and be like a solid rock." – Pete Davidson (75:15)

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Memorable Humorous Moments

• Muslim, Asian, and Twink versions of 'Guess Who':
  Theo and Pete riff on the idea of different versions of the board game Guess Who, dropping absurd and edgy observations (02:07–02:54).
• Theo's Dad and Bad Cars:
  Theo tells stories about his late father's eccentricities with cars and cultural commentary (12:13–13:59).
• The Amish Kid & Def Leppard:
  Banter about Pete's affection for a recent episode featuring an Amish kid and his delight in sneaking Def Leppard and Morgan Wallen (41:12–46:29).

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|----------------------| | Opening, tour talk, Joey Gay | 01:22 – 05:30 | | Performing under speech restrictions | 05:40 – 07:39 | | 9/11 and losing his father | 08:20 – 11:08 | | Childhood memories & mementos | 12:13 – 14:57 | | Finding father figures, old souls | 16:15 – 18:39 | | Severe depression, childhood attempts | 23:36 – 26:33 | | Internet fame & backlash | 25:23 – 27:44 | | Decision to get help, family support | 28:47 – 32:27 | | Art and filling emotional gaps | 78:39 – 81:59 | | Becoming a father | 51:12 – 55:05, 75:15 | | Upcoming tour dates | 83:14 – 84:14 |

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Episode Takeaways

• Both comedians stress the importance of community—friends or mentors who understand, 12-step groups, and a strong, supportive family.
• Conversations flow easily from irreverence to deep emotion, making space for laughter and tears in the process of dealing with heavy subjects.
• Pete has found, through trial, error, and pain, that self-acceptance is both hard-won and essential, especially in the face of fame, loss, and mental struggles.
• Ultimately, despite careers built on laughter, both men reveal how comedy, honest art, and openness can be tools for healing—and for helping others feel less alone.

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Guest's Upcoming Tour Dates:

• Sep 26: Singapore
• Sep 28: Perth
• Sep 29: Melbourne
• Oct 1: Sydney
• Oct 3: Riyadh (SA)
• Oct 5: Berlin
• Oct 6: Amsterdam
• Oct 8: London
• Oct 9: Dublin
• Oct 10: Belfast

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Closing Note:
Pete Davidson and Theo Von’s conversation reminds listeners that behind public personas are real people, carrying grief, anxiety, hope, and longing for connection. The humor is a bridge—not a mask—and the honesty ripples out for others to heal.

Transcript

[Theo Von]

If you missed the Return of the Rat tour, we've added tour merch to the website. We've got pocket tees, hats, bags, and whatnot. The bobby tees are also back in stock, as well as some items from the outdoor collection, all [e-mail] thanks to everyone who came out and supported on this tour. I can't believe that we're almost done and we've taken the tour merch that we didn't sell out there and put it onto the website in case you missed something. And. Yeah. Love you guys, baby. Thank you. Today's guest is a comedian and an actor out of Staten Island, New York. He was. He was. He was once a young king, and now he's a medium king. He's about to take on a world tour in some select cities. You know, this is the first time we've sat this long and gotten to really talk. I'm very fortunate for his time. He's an exceptional young man. Today's guest is Mr. Pete Davidson. Thanks for coming by, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Dude. Thank you for having me. Is awesome.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

I only watch you and I listen to this.

[Theo Von]

What are you talking about? Joel Osteen.

[Pete Davidson]

I know. I listen to your podcast, and I listen to this podcast called how did this Get Made? Where they just kind of talk about movies and.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah, people. Wait, wait, I know who's. That's not Doug.

[Pete Davidson]

It's Man Zukas and Paul Shear. They just talk about, like, movies that, like, were ridiculous and then, like, just the. The math of how they got made.

[Theo Von]

Paul Shears, so cool.

[Pete Davidson]

He is really cool. Good guy.

[Theo Von]

Is he?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

I never known him that much except just seeing him in movies and tv.

[Pete Davidson]

Man, Zookas is maybe pound for pound, one of the funniest human beings.

[Theo Von]

Really.

[Pete Davidson]

It's amazing.

[Theo Von]

Mant Zookas, huh? Let me get a gander at him. Oh, he's all the ethnicities, huh? He's a Gaza Strip of him. Dear God, I'd be afraid to open my car door if I ran, and I wouldn't even know which way it was coming from.

[Pete Davidson]

He's one of those guys that's looked that forever, and now he's the appropriate age to look like that. But he'll also still look like that forever. You know what I mean?

[Theo Von]

He looks like somebody off that Muslim version of Guess who. Remember that game? You know what I'm saying? Like, and no offense, Mr. Manu, because if you're as funny as he says you are, you're okay with some of this. They should have A Muslim version of Guess who? Dude, they have an Asian version. It's just all the same guy, man.

[Pete Davidson]

Do they really. Do they have one for every.

[Theo Von]

I'm sure they do. It's the way they do it now.

[Pete Davidson]

That's what I like about this. You learn a little bit.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Well, they have a Guess who too, for, like, twinks. I know there's one. It's like one of these guys doesn't mind meeting other guys or whatever. This is crazy. Dude, you're going on your first international tour. Is that cool? Pete Davidson. Good to see you today, man.

[Pete Davidson]

Thanks for having me, bro.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, thanks, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

I'm. I'm stoked. I've never been anywhere unless it was for, like, work.

[Theo Von]

Right.

[Pete Davidson]

But I've always wanted to try. It's just like, I can't believe that anybody would come see me over there.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, you almost need to go there to believe that.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I'm kind of, like, dumb where I'm like, no one knows me and. You know Australia? Yeah, I've never been there before. I don't have friends there.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

But I'm excited.

[Theo Von]

Are you taking anybody with you? Is it only you? What's.

[Pete Davidson]

It's me and my friend Joey Gay, who does shows. Been doing shows with me since I'm like, 18, so.

[Theo Von]

Oh, nice bringing up. Let me get a picture of Joey Gay.

[Pete Davidson]

Joey Gay is hilarious, dude.

[Theo Von]

I may have met him, but I can't remember.

[Pete Davidson]

He's been around forever. He's just one of those dudes that just always destroys.

[Theo Von]

Oh, there he is.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he's also been my friends, you know, since the before time.

[Theo Von]

Know him?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he's a monster. Dude, he's great.

[Theo Von]

I know him. He looks like a little bit like Chris. Like, almost like Chris Deano and Charlamagne. Had a kid a little bit in that picture.

[Pete Davidson]

No, he's a. He's a real good dude.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's great.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Where you guys headed to? I know you're headed to Perth.

[Pete Davidson]

I saw Perth. Sydney.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Another one. Maybe Melbourne.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

It could be wrong. I have no idea. I. You know when you get a tour schedule and you're super intimidated and you just go day by day, but I know we're doing it. Oh, here they are.

[Theo Von]

Singapore. Whoa.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

And what's causing all that? There's a lot of good street food there.

[Pete Davidson]

That was just Burke. I don't know if you know we.

[Theo Von]

Have the same agent.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, we're the same age. So, you know, he'll be like. He'll Be like, yeah, you know, you could fit this one in there. You know, it's on the way. There's a layover.

[Theo Von]

Why don't you parachute into the Azores? I got a hostage facility outside of Guantanamo. I'll sell 200 tickets in right now. They owe me. They owe me. All right. Whatever.

[Pete Davidson]

They. Yeah, they always do.

[Theo Von]

Oh, I got it. Dude. That's going to. That's going to be great. And you're going to Riyadh. So how do you guys feel about this Saudi Arabian Comedy Festival? There's been a lot of, like, talk about this recently. Are they limiting what you guys can say? Have you heard anything about it yet?

[Pete Davidson]

That one I haven't heard much about Singapore. I had, like, a. A laundry list of stuff. It was pretty much my whole act. So I. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I'm, like, googling old sets from when I was, like, 20. Just going to do the classics and do.

[Theo Von]

Do some of Jim Gaffkin's bits. That's what I do if I'm in a tough spot.

[Pete Davidson]

Just do. I mean, or just do Nate stuff. Just very evergreen, clean stuff. Have you ever had that problem?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. I have it a lot. I mean, I have a lot where it's like, you have to sift back through.

[Pete Davidson]

They're like. One of them was like, you could talk about sex, but, like, not, like, in a dirty way.

[Theo Von]

Right?

[Pete Davidson]

And I'm like, what the does that mean?

[Theo Von]

Yeah. So I guess let's. Here. Well, let's try to have a conversation about sex, but not in a dirty way. Oh, man. I had some. I was sex recently. Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

How'd it go?

[Theo Von]

Well, I thought it went pretty good. You know, I was on a full stomach, so.

[Pete Davidson]

Did you both blast.

[Theo Von]

Hold on. I need to leave this conversation. This isn't Singapore approved, I think. And they'll beat you with that stick over there. Remember they killed that honky over there, like, 25 years ago? Remember that guy Christopher Reeves or whatever? Who was that guy they killed?

[Pete Davidson]

Christopher Reeves. Singapore, I think.

[Theo Von]

Or maybe it's not him. Who was it? This is a huge thing. When I was a child, they beat this guy for doing something over there. What was he doing?

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, this guy.

[Theo Von]

Michael Faye. There he was. Oh, man's brother. This is why she had to win. She didn't have a choice. The person was famously caned in Singapore's Michael Fay, an American teenager. In 1994, Faye was sentenced by a Singaporean court to six strokes of the cane and four months in jail for acts of vandalism, specifically for spray painting and damaging cars.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, he didn't do anything as well.

[Theo Von]

As stealing road signs.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I mean, that's fine.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's just a little bit of newsome foreplay right there. That's nothing. Dude.

[Pete Davidson]

That's sad. And it's sad. It's sad in general, but just for like spray painting cars and stealing road signs, feel like they should just, you know, cut your hand off or something.

[Theo Von]

Well, I think. I think this guy's pretty lucky, dude. Some places, I guess they still have a lot of that. But no, what I've heard, dude, is that that Riyadh festival. Is that you. That they're. They're like, you know, there's a lot of people that say people are getting paid by this Middle Eastern money.

[Pete Davidson]

Right.

[Theo Von]

You know, and that they can say this or they can't say that or that they're over there. They're going to try to influence you guys in order to speak certain ways. Do you. Are you part of that conspiracy theory or is that nothing you're on?

[Pete Davidson]

I. I've heard there's subreddits of like, I think all these people are in bed with that. I just, you know, I get the routing and then I see the number and I go, I'll go, okay, okay. Yeah. You know, and also, you know, there's. There's part of me that's just like, you know, I've been getting a little bit of flack just because, like, my dad died 9 11. So they're. They're like, how could you possibly go there?

[Theo Von]

So your dad died during 9 11. He died in one of the buildings.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he was a fireman. They were actually the first truck there. There's like this very. This is how shitty my luck is. Also, not to make this all about myself, but.

[Theo Von]

Well, it's an interview of you, so.

[Pete Davidson]

If you do, it's okay, I'm at 911. But yeah, it's all about me. There's a very famous shot that you see every 9 11, besides the obvious ones, but they were the first truck over the bridge to the.

[Theo Von]

So the 911s.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, so the front page is just like Pete's dad and like, oh, so.

[Theo Von]

He'S waving out the window.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he's like that. So, yeah, they were. They were the first truck over there. And pretty much the whole house. The whole house, you know, died.

[Theo Von]

Oh.

[Pete Davidson]

Which is sad. But also, at least he died with his pals. You know, it's Kind of.

[Theo Von]

They all went as a group. Huh. That's his truck. No, that's.

[Pete Davidson]

That's the picture. You see the truck on the bridge?

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. My dad's in there. Dude. I wonder.

[Theo Von]

You know some Shane kill.

[Pete Davidson]

Us pretty gay, dude. He's in there. It's pretty gay. I don't know.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, my down syndrome brother's in there. Yeah, that's. I feel like that's what Shane would say the whole time. That's your dad right there.

[Pete Davidson]

That's my pops. Dude.

[Theo Von]

Dude, he's. You're me. You're part. You're Mex Latino.

[Pete Davidson]

No, no, all. All white and Jewish and Irish.

[Theo Von]

Oh, wow.

[Pete Davidson]

All Italian. Yeah. But I feel like our family looks mixed, but we're not.

[Theo Von]

Well, it's crazy that he died in 911 and also part of him is accused of doing it. That's the craziest part. So I think that's where you're like the. You're the fucking. You're the BERMUDA triangle of 9 11.

[Pete Davidson]

Well, it is a little weird that they were the first truck there.

[Theo Von]

It is true.

[Pete Davidson]

It's almost like he was too ready to go.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, it's the old Irish hello. Yeah, that's the Irish part, I think. Oh, man, he's a handsome guy. What was he like?

[Pete Davidson]

He was fucking hilarious, man. He was. My memories are, you know, few and far between because I was seven, but I just remember laughing a lot, him being pretty jacked and smoke a lot of cigarettes and driving a Subaru Impreza. That's all I remember. Always had a big smile on his face. But my favorite thing is, I don't know if you have. I'm sure you do. People come to your shows and they're like, I knew. I don't know your dad or I knew. I know your cousin or whatever. A lot of people lie to me about that just to come backstage because they. Because they know I can't be like, right, you know, sure, or whatever.

[Theo Von]

But I don't want to hear about it. Of course. You want to hear a story about your dad.

[Pete Davidson]

Of course. I could always tell who is telling the truth because the second they start talking, they have this big smile and their eyes kind of light up. And they call him Scotty, which is what his friends call them. So I always could tell. And everything I hear is always really sweet. So I'm sure they, like, keep the horrible things away.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Scotty met on the Jets.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he did, Did. He's a big jets fan. Oh, yeah. But you. You Lost your props to. You were young, too, right?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I was 16. My dad died. He was just older, though. But I think, like. Yeah, just. Yeah. I mean, losing your dad when you're a kid is kind of tough. I think it's. Obviously, it's tough. I think it's. It is funny. As you get older, you want to know the different stuff about him, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Was he a pervert? Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

What do you like?

[Theo Von]

Because it's still more information, you know, like, did he sleep in his car or whatever? You know, like, what did he do, you know, for fun?

[Pete Davidson]

I think it's worse at your age, though, because you could fully understand the scope of what happened, and you're at such a pivotal age in your life where you're growing and becoming a man. I was really young, so I didn't even really know what the fuck happened. And it hit me later, like, when I was in college, I was like, oh, I'm pretty angry about this. Like, it. It'll show up more and more as I get older because you understand, like, that's really sad to happen to a kid, but I feel like your age, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but, like, that's, like. That's, like, visceral. That's. That's some tough shit.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I think, you know, my dad was so old. My dad was set. You know, my dad was born in 1910. He was an old man. And so What? He was 70 when I was born. So he was 86 at that time. Right.

[Pete Davidson]

Holy.

[Theo Von]

So it wasn't like I had, like, this, you know, dad that had this energy, you know, I had this kind of dad that was like a. Sleeping in the distance a lot or like, you know, all inadvertently causing to.

[Amish Kid]

Ha.

[Theo Von]

Like, falling asleep. And the carpool would come pick me up, and he'd doze off out there, you know, And. And he. My dad had this. He was always buying cars off these brothers that lived around the corner, right? And so he had. One time, he had this cutlass that had some 22s in the trunk, some bangers in that. And he would just listen like Rush Limbaugh and, like, with bass cranked up. Oh, bro.

[Pete Davidson]

Like.

[Theo Von]

Like Paul Harvey and just, like, these. These old commentators, and he would just doze off in his car, and whenever he dozed off as he was old, his eyes would, like, leak, and they're just, like water kind of pour out of him. Because you're getting old, you know, your gaskets get bad. And so he was just. Just shedding Water weight. And it was just like, what is going on?

[Pete Davidson]

So you're a little prepared. You're a little prepared.

[Theo Von]

I was prepared that things weren't going to go well.

[Pete Davidson]

Right.

[Theo Von]

You know, so my dad kind of was like a driving 911. He like kind of pulls up in his own little like. I would have been awesome if that. We got to put my dad's car behind that fire truck.

[Pete Davidson]

Superimpose your desk car in there. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

He was always a 911 dude. Every time he came in and something you'd have to get his Carters didn't work. Get a climb in the wind. Everything was a nightmare with him. And the teachers would always look at you like, don't get in there.

[Pete Davidson]

Right. With your dad.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, but that's your parent picking you up. Like. But then there's little things like did you have some nice mementos of his?

[Pete Davidson]

I have actually. I have his. His wedding ring I wear all the time. And I have his. It's actually super up. But I have his badge, like his chain, his badge. And. And they found. That's how they, you know, because everybody was pretty burnt up so that's how they knew it was him. And I have it and I, I just keep it in a safe because like with my luck I'll lose that. But I have like a couple of those things and I have him, his. His fire. His like jacket and like other set of pants and I. I put him like on the wall. I like framed him. But then I put him. I took him down though. Cuz like sometimes I'll be feeling good and then I'll see that and I'll be like, oh yeah. You know, it's like a weird. It's a weird thing. I remember my mom has. It's like everywhere you look, it's like, you know, my dad, like and it's. It's kind of.

[Theo Von]

Put on a condom. That's a lot. Sorry. That's crazy. I was just trying to make you laugh.

[Pete Davidson]

No, it did make me laugh. But it's kind of haunting where you're just like, I would like the option. Like if I want to go down memory lane, right. I can. But like just like have your dad staring at you.

[Theo Von]

You don't want memory lane just hanging out on the wall being like, hey, do a lap, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Do you have any stuff for your dads? You have those speakers?

[Theo Von]

No. What do we have? We have. I have his passport for whenever he.

[Pete Davidson]

Moved to the U.S. where's he from?

[Theo Von]

He's from Nicaragua. He came down here when. I think he was like, let me see. I guess he was 12 or whatever.

[Pete Davidson]

That's wild.

[Theo Von]

It was pretty wild.

[Pete Davidson]

I don't know anyone from there. That's crazy.

[Theo Von]

I don't know.

[Pete Davidson]

I don't know. It's like a real place. It's like a place you live on MySpace when you're in high school.

[Theo Von]

Oh, Nicaragua.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Schenectady, New York.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah. Kalamazoo, Michigan.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Dude. I remember when I saw Kalamazoo in the airport one time. People were going there one day. I couldn't even believe it. I thought they were, like, traveling into a damn Dr. Seuss novel or something. I was like, tell Cindy Lou who. I said, what's up? Huh? How old is she? You feel me? Blm, dude. But, yeah, I think as you get older, stuff like. That's interesting. Were you able to find pieces of fatherhood in other men as you got older?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I think that's inadvertently what I was doing. I wasn't, like, very conscious, like, right. I need to find me a dad, you know?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

But. But I. As I look back, though, you know, that was what was cool about getting into comedy. I was 16, so. And the youngest comedian friend I had was, like, I don't know, 29, 30. It was like, che distefano.

[Theo Von]

Oh, it's great.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, all those guys, Giannis, Nate, Soder, and like, it was all dudes that were older than me that, like, you know, obviously there's not. There wasn't a lot of other younger dudes, but I really. I've really looked up to them. And, like, as you see Joey, I do shows with Joey Ye all the time. He's, like, in his 50s, so most of my friends, I find, are, like, you know, 40 and up, because I think that makes me feel safe. And also just, like, this is for some form of, like, Big Brother sort of thing.

[Theo Von]

And, yeah, somebody looking out for you.

[Pete Davidson]

But also, when you go through a tragedy that young, like, your brain is older. Like, I always felt like I was older, like, in school where, like, when that happened, you know, kids would be like, you want to, like, have a pool party? I'm like, no. Like, yeah, I want to smoke cigarettes and cry. Like, I'm. That's. Yeah, it's like. It's not that. That, like, innocence is kind of taken away really fast. And that's why I got into stand up. I'd watch, you know, Burr and Chappelle, and, you know, Rodney's my favorite, so I think that's why I, like, veered towards laughing a lot.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, I'm just a sad dude. Like, I feel like most of us are pretty.

[Theo Von]

Were you a pretty sad dude, you think?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I think there's pigeonholed.

[Theo Von]

Is this not sad dude?

[Pete Davidson]

I think, yeah. I'm like, what the guys. Like, I'm for. Everybody's always like, oh, that guy just. And that's where some of the hatred comes. He just. He got. I don't give a attitude. I'm like, no, I'm. I'm miserable. I. I want to be that dude too. All the dude you guys are talking about. I won't be him. I don't even know that guy. I look at pictures. I'm like, who is this guy that everybody's talking about? You know? Like, it's not me, but, yeah, I grew up super duper sad. There's my mom shows pictures. You could always tell with pictures of me when I'm little, before and after my dad passed, because the eyes are different.

[Theo Von]

Oh.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, the eyes are just, like, sad.

[Theo Von]

The eyes have it. That's what they say.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Damn.

[Pete Davidson]

I feel like Europe. People think you must be like the happiest silly dude ever, but I feel like you have some layers.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah, dude. I'd like to be in a wheelchair a lot of times, you know, just cause. Just to show them. I'll show them. That's my attitude.

[Pete Davidson]

Show other dudes that.

[Theo Von]

Right out into a interstate. I'll show them. Hit me. I'll go to heaven right now.

[Pete Davidson]

Do you ever play truth or Not Truth or dead, but like kind of Russian roulette with yourself, where you're like, if I die this way, I'm supposed to.

[Theo Von]

Oh, let me think about Brent, like.

[Pete Davidson]

Where I got a motorcycle for a little bit, and you did. Just for a bit. And then I got into an accident.

[Theo Von]

Why? Just for a bit.

[Pete Davidson]

So. So it was kind of like a. If I go this way. Like, I was young. I was like, I don't give a fuck. Like, I'm rock and roll, dude. But then I didn't realize, like, you can get in a motorcycle accident and it not be your fault. Like, I didn't realize you can get hit by other cars.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You don't think about that.

[Pete Davidson]

I don't think about it. You're just like, I. It's all in my control. But some dude. Some dude clipped me, and then the bike kind of fell on me. Was pretty mid, but I was like, oh, you could. It was enough Yeah. I don't want to die by someone else. I want to do it right, you know?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. I want to go out on my shit. So.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, motherfucker. Yeah. I'll die, bitch. Watch me.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

You don't think I'll die. Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Watch. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Dude, I'll say this. I've had a girlfriend before where I've been like. Like, I knew I should leave her, but I'm like, I'm not leaving her because she'll find somebody that actually likes her.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Yep.

[Theo Von]

That's how much I was, like, miserable, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

You ever have sad even think this? One of my rebuttals to a girl leaving me was like, you've done so much work. You've done so much work on me. Like, it's like you got me ready for someone else. Like, that's. That's like, not fair because now I'm just gonna be all, is this good with someone else?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, you taught me so much.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. He show up for the graduation.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Come on. You know you put so much work in.

[Theo Von]

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[Pete Davidson]

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[Pete Davidson]

I've, I've. I'm good now, but I used to dip in. In that. I was very, like, growing up, I wanted to die to be with my dad really, very badly. So I tried. This is so fucking embarrassing, but I can't really.

[Theo Von]

When you said that also. Of course.

[Pete Davidson]

No, yeah, but I, I, like, I tried my first time when I was like eight, I tried to like, drown myself. And then my mom, like, this is so dark, but like, found me in the pool, seeing what I was trying to do. And then she took me to like a. A psych ward when I was like eight. So I've. I've struggled with that. And then I kind of got out of it when I first started, I would say right around when I got snl, I. Because I didn't have many friends growing up and it was, it was my fault. Like, I've said this before where, like, I was suffering and I was super weird and I was like, you know, very visibly hurting. But, you know, kids don't know that that's what you're going through. They just think you're weird. Like, they don't have this scope of.

[Theo Von]

Did you feel like a lot of, like, were, like, thoughts and stuff were trapped inside of you kind of or what do you feel like? You think?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, it was like on a hamster wheel of just like, I have. Because I have OCD and you know, manic depression. So, like, it's just. That's a horrible combo. And then you start doing drugs and it's like, good luck, you know, you're a slot machine. Yeah. Of depression and the worst stuff. And then I would like revert to that when I got sad. But then when I started doing standup, I kind of was like, I found like a group of weird friends. And like, artists are cool and they understand, like, sadness. And like, a lot of them are like, you know, not afraid to talk about that stuff.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, and I really, like. I was like, oh, yeah. You know, and then there's this weird thing. I don't know if you've really had this because I know everybody just fucking loves you as they should. But I had this thing where, like, I came out and everyone really rallied behind me, was like, oh, this kid. They look what happened to him when he's a kid. And now he's doing this and that's super cool. And it was like all going up and then it flipped and then it was like, fuck this dude. I don't like this dude. He. I hate this dude. And like, we're in the Internet age, so I'm reading all that shit. Yeah. And then it brought me back to like childhood high school, like, not fitting in. Like, again, low self worth, attached to.

[Theo Von]

All that old shit.

[Pete Davidson]

Then that shit started to pop back in and then that's where I started, like, doing drugs. And then a year and a half ago, I was like, I was just like, I need to want to. I need to be okay. If not all this goes away. Like, if, like, it can't be for standup, it can't be for this movie. It can't be for this girl. It can't even be for my family. Like, I have to want to be okay. Otherwise all this doesn't work.

[Theo Von]

Dude, when you say that, so scary to me. I don't know if I could ever, like, even though I feel like I am, I don't if there's a big part of me. The truth is I don't know how I would feel if I didn't have somebody else's feelings to base it on, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

No. Yeah, it's like.

[Theo Von]

Or if I didn't how. How somebody else felt about me to base it on.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, that's. That's how I live. We're. We're. We're People pleasers. Laugh at me, please. Like, you know what I mean? Like. Like watch my movie. Like, when I take a picture, like, you know, and then it got.

[Theo Von]

See me. Even if you call me a or whatever, we can bleep that out.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Or we can just say that he said it.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

But anyway, at least that's like, in the.

[Pete Davidson]

In the context that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Theo Von]

Only if it's during pride month and you mistook me for one of your best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not in, like a regular.

[Pete Davidson]

No, no, no. You should stand by that.

[Theo Von]

Okay.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, but. But, yeah, you can't. But that's a hard. That's a hard thing to. And you're undoing. For me, it was like, you know, 25 years of people pleasing, and that's why I live, you know, So I had to, like, learn how to be okay with this. And like, also, like a year, year and a half ago, like, they were like, it's over. He's done.

[Theo Von]

You know, Is it the media tabloid, that type of.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, it was just like. There was like, articles that were like, I smoke crack and live with my mom. And I was like. I was like, all right, like, maybe part of that. Like, not all of that. Like, it's a two bedroom. It sucks when there's like four. It sucks when there's four things in the article that are wrong, but there's one of them. You're like, actually, yeah, it's kind of true, but, you know, and I'm in rehab alone, reading this, you know, and a lot of my friends, you know, I would say I still have half of them, but a lot of them, it got to a point with my use and, like, how I was behaving, where they were just like, I love you, but, like, I. This is too much.

[Theo Von]

Oh, wow.

[Pete Davidson]

And when that started happening, it was. Started happening with people. I was like, well, I don't give a fuck about you anyway.

[Theo Von]

Right.

[Pete Davidson]

And then it started happening with, like, people I really cared about. And I was like, oh, shit. Like, it's me.

[Theo Von]

Dang.

[Pete Davidson]

You can only go. It's everybody else for so long.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

And until you're like, okay, I get it. And then, you know, and that. That was kind of it for me.

[Theo Von]

Was there a day you kind of turned it in? You were like, like, I'm dropping the rock today. You know?

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, where I'm. We're just like, I need to leave.

[Theo Von]

Or you're just like, I'm gonna go, definitely get some help. Like. Or was there like, one conversation that kind of cemented it for you, I guess. Yeah. Once you start to see like, man, oh, that person is stepping away from me. God, it must be. Yeah, because it's weird. Sometimes you want to make your outside, you want to make it match kind of how you feel on the inside. It's like, that's exactly. I want you to leave me because I left me so long in my mind, everybody left me so long ago that I want. I don't if the fact that you're even still around here fudgeing makes me not even respect you, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

In like a sick way, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

And there's part of you that's probably like, for me, I was like calling bluffs almost where I was just like, I, I self sabotage, blow up. Anybody that's ever actually loved me or cared about me has gotten the worst wrath from me.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, it's few and far between, but when it happens, it's fucked up. And. But this whole like, fuck you leave me. Like, go ahead, leave me. They started to and I was like, oh, shit, you're calling my bluff and I love you and I don't want you to go away. And then you go into therapy and you're like, fear of abandonment. You have bpd. This is why from your childhood you did this and your grandpa did this and now you're this. So like, you gotta do that sort of work. But yeah, it got to that point where people I really fucking loved. And also my mom, you know, my mom's the most supportive person in the world.

[Theo Von]

She's a cool lady.

[Pete Davidson]

The best. I mean, like, what's her name? Amy.

[Theo Von]

She's the best name.

[Pete Davidson]

Never dated.

[Theo Von]

She married a fireman. Amy.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, she's. She's a nurse. Like, nah. Yeah, they met each other in grammar school. Like, super Staten Island, I want to marry a nurse. This is my mom. Look how cute my mom is. Oh, she's just a sweet lady. She never dated after my mom, after my dad died, just raised me and my sister, like, alone and worked hard. And she's been the most supportive ever. And it got to a point where she, she called me when I was, when I was in rehab and she was like, my biggest fear is that I will turn on the news and see that my son has died. And she's never been like that. Like, you know, because she's so supportive and just, you know, wants to always have positivity around.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. And she already lost something she loved.

[Pete Davidson]

Exactly. And that fucking, that killed me.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

So, like, I was like, all right. You know, can't die until she's dead at least.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, all right, Amy.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Yeah, you got it. Like, when that lady. When that lady says that to you, look at that lady. I mean, how are you going to be like? I'd have to be a heartless fucking sociopath to not get my shit together, you know?

[Theo Von]

You're like, okay, this is what I need.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Oh, good lady.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's cute, man.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I'm a lucky guy in that aspect. I have a really, like, supportive, cool family that has never asked me for anything. And they should. Like, they could and they. A lot of them need. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

You bought Colin, Jose, that shitty boat.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

You can't fucking get them some.

[Pete Davidson]

Can you imagine being one of my family members? That's like living. Check the check. And you read that. Sorry. Like, I have. But I've offered to. I've offered to help and they just. They're like, nah.

[Theo Von]

Like, that's. Yeah, some people are like that and I love that.

[Pete Davidson]

That's how I.

[Theo Von]

But I think that. Here's what I start to realize about family. I think they're joking. I think they're joking.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, they. They don't want you to be like, oh, they don't. Because I'm always like, all right. But they want you to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got this. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, dude, I think I even. You just saying that makes me think I got to help out my family a little bit more.

[Pete Davidson]

That's my Staten island brother right there.

[Theo Von]

Hey, there you go. He's from Staten island too. Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Ain't that crazy? I mean, from a good part, clearly we. It looks a little different.

[Theo Von]

A little more island.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Theo Von]

A little less statin.

[Pete Davidson]

No, he's. He's the best man. He's a real good dude.

[Theo Von]

Is he?

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, he's the best.

[Theo Von]

I. I only met him one time and I think he looked so clean, I was just afraid to get to know him.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, dude, he's awesome. You guys would get along great. He's. I don't know anyone that doesn't, like, you know when you're like, intimidated or not intimidated, but just. You're just like, I don't think me and that dude will ever vibe. And then you're like, oh, we love comedy and we're comics and like, there's that universal thing. So you guys would hit it off great. And it's also fun to hang out with someone that's like, polar opposite in most ways.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's pretty cool, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

And we're from the same island.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

But it's like, he golfs, you know? And I'm like, what the Is that? Yeah, I was like, we have golf club was in Staten Island. I was like, I had no idea, you know, so.

[Theo Von]

And you're out there doing tours of the Gilgo Beach. Killer area.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

So different strokes for different folks, brother.

[Pete Davidson]

Even. Yeah. Even the theaters. He does have, like, really nice names. Like, I'll look at his tour. And I'm like, that sounds nice. All my shit's like, what the. Is this Memphis?

[Theo Von]

Oh, it's bird, dude. Putting you out there. You're doing a amphitheater out there at the Gilgo Beach. Killer frigate section.

[Pete Davidson]

God, who's this fella?

[Theo Von]

That's the Gilgo Beach. That's your opener in Singapore. That is. Dude, you got a rebate from the. From the Port Authority.

[Pete Davidson]

Herman Rex Herman.

[Theo Von]

That's the dude that was killing all the hookers, man.

[Pete Davidson]

That's up.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

That's not cool.

[Theo Von]

How long did you say? I'm trying to think of different. I probably got to go to a place soon and just get some away. I think I've just. I just. Everything's just been. I can barely kind of keep it together every week.

[Pete Davidson]

Well, you're also one of the most busy people in the world. I mean, you have, like, the biggest show out there, and. But there's. I don't know if you had this. You have this feeling where you're like, well, if I go away, it all stops.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I just think it's. Everything will be. Fall apart or. I don't know.

[Pete Davidson]

Or you'll be, like, alone with your thoughts. And, like, I think when you work a lot, you don't have time to be like, what am I upset about in my childhood? Or, like, whatever. Like, you could take as much time as you like, and you deserve it. You deserve a nice little kickback. Relax. Do something that, like, makes you happy. What makes you happy? Like, what do you like to do?

[Theo Von]

Well, I think some of it's funny that. I'll thank you, though, for saying some of that stuff.

[Pete Davidson]

No, it's true, bro.

[Theo Von]

It is true. I think it's hard for me to get that. It's hard for me to, like, get that into my system, you know, and then to want to do. But I think, like, you know, I'm kind of married to work. Like, I choose to work. Like, sometimes I think about, like, I had this girlfriend, this really great girl that I was seeing for Years. And I don't know if we're supposed to stay together or not, but sometimes when I think about life or certain things, she's kind of the one that I miss. It doesn't mean we're supposed to stay together. But there was still like a good. Good enough connection that was very real. That it was like, man, that's her affection is what I miss. Right. Caring about her is kind of what I miss. Um, but I could see myself. We'd go out and do stuff, and then we'd come back home and I could see how she would see me across the room. I'd sit down, I'd put my computer on my lap and just start working. Like, doesn't matter if I had 33 seconds, it always went to that, you know? And just. Just like a couple of months ago, I started thinking, oh, man, that's what she must have seen all the time, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

Right. Just someone looking up and someone just not there.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, right.

[Pete Davidson]

But. But you are there. But you're just. This is your comfort.

[Theo Von]

Comfortability. Comfortable. It's reliable. I know the return. Yeah, I know the rate of return.

[Pete Davidson]

I enjoy it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I enjoy it.

[Pete Davidson]

It's based.

[Theo Von]

Even if I fail in it, that's fine. It's totally on me.

[Pete Davidson]

It's all.

[Theo Von]

There's no room for any. I mean, there's room for other people in here, really. But it's definitely, you know, it's just. You put in, you get out. Right. But. So I don't know, like. Yeah, I think that's something like, just like that addiction to work. But then I'm getting older, I'd like to have a family, you know. And you're like, well, I don't know how that's going to happen unless I do some things different. And so that's where I'm like, I gotta. I think I gotta just, you know, I don't know.

[Pete Davidson]

But you're sober too, right?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

This year.

[Theo Von]

This year. This year's been a little. A little. I've had a couple tough moments this year. This past year has been the toughest year that I've had in a while. Yeah, I hear that. But.

[Pete Davidson]

But, like, this is like, you know, drugs for me and smoking weed and, you know, that. That was like. Those were my friends. I never did it to go party or, like, I was never like, hey, let's like go fucked up. I did it at home, pretty much alone. And I would just watch Family Guy just. It was like a warm hug or blanket. When you get rid of Your friends. It's like, what's left? It's like work. Nicotine.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Am I supposed to give up those, too? Like, it's all I have. Like, your body needs to appreciate the friends you just let go, you know, It's. It's. If you let go of too many things at once, like, it. It's not good for you. So it's like, I don't know if that's how it is with you, but, like, it's hard to have a healthy relationship with, like. Like, my reliabilities right now are, like, working zen and, like, working out and taking care of my girl and, like, hanging out with her. That's like. That's all I have. Like, if you pull one of those away, it's like three left, you know? I used to have eight things, and now it's like, so it's tough. It's tough. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

I think it's like, I. I do think there's a lot of stuff there where it's like, I don't want to probably see some of it, you know? Or I don't really want to feel like if I don't have a. Some girl to text or a date to plan or something in the distance or some work thing. Like, if I took everything away and I was just with myself, how would I feel, you know? Or what would that be like? And it would probably be fine.

[Pete Davidson]

Right?

[Theo Von]

But I think it's the fear of.

[Pete Davidson]

Right.

[Theo Von]

What would that be like? It's the. It's the hurdle, not the other side. A lot of times for me, you know, it's the same thing that comes with, like, commitment to relationships. I had the toughest time committing in relationships. I think it's just. It's probably fine on the other side, right? It's just stepping over the hurdle sometimes.

[Pete Davidson]

Do you think you romanticize the fear a little bit as an out where it's just like, in your head, you're like, no, this is what it's gonna be like. And then there's like a fear of, like, I do it and that's not what it's like, and then that whole thing is gone. Does that make sense?

[Theo Von]

Say it again to me.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, do you think, like, having that set answer of, like, well, if I do that, I won't be able to commit or it's gonna go wrong or whatever? Like, you're preventing yourself from even trying to do it.

[Theo Von]

Oh, I see what you're saying.

[Pete Davidson]

Because it probably is what you need, right? Like, and you can do it, and there's Almost like a. Not like you. You don't believe in yourself enough. Does that make sense?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Because that's. That's a lot of. A lot of my issues are like that.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Where I'm like, he can't do that. Like I can't. I can't.

[Theo Von]

Oh, it's interesting.

[Pete Davidson]

And then I can I like. I like, prove myself wrong and I'm not who I thought I was.

[Theo Von]

Oh. And that's scary. Not be. You thought you were.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Because that's the person that I. Whoever that person is, whatever there is of them, that's what I've known that.

[Pete Davidson]

Yes. And that's. And that you're comfortable in that.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Even if it's traumatic or you're depressed. Like I was so. I'm so afraid to be happy.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Because it's uncomfortable.

[Theo Von]

Dude, there was a time. This is like a year ago. It's funny you're saying some of this, man. And thanks for thinking about it with me.

[Pete Davidson]

No, of course.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. There's atomic. A year ago I was thinking if I don't want to feel like I don't even know who I'd be if I was happy and if I was, I would leave all of these feelings that I've always known so much that are like best friends, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

And it would be like I almost didn't even did, man. I don't want to go do live like that because I'll desert these. Whether they're lies or truths, whatever they are, they're probably all in somewhat of cloaks or masks. But I don't want to desert them. I'm so used to being at this party with this other small group of fucking lonely, perverted, gambling. A little.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

But you know that group that I don't even want to go over there, but still. Yeah. So, yeah, I think there's a lot. There's probably just the fact of even taking time away to sit and have conversations like this or to be in environments where I'm not like regulating how I feel. With Celsius, which the Amish are using now. I've heard.

[Pete Davidson]

Dude, that was the best. I don't know. I don't know if you're recording, but I mentioned before that that dude was awesome. And you said you were in contact with him.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

And my question was how.

[Theo Von]

Dude, we gotta send you over there to see that.

[Pete Davidson]

I would. I would love to hang with that dude sometimes. Like, I don't know. When I watched it one, I thought it was really cool. You did that because you switch it up, you'll have, like, an Oscar actor than an athlete. Then, like, this Amish kid. But it made me, like, appreciative for, like, what I get to do and what we get to do and what we. Some things I take for granted.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

When he was just, like, stoked to, like, getting a Corvette with, like, two chicks, and he's like, that was, like, my whole life. And I'm like, oh, goes pretty fast.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, press the pedal.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. So it made me super reflective, like, and, like, one. I thought he was adorable.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, he's a nice guy.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Nice and, like, very honest and earnest. But I also was just like, man, I gotta start. Stop. Like, taking like that for granted.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. I think a lot of that just comes into gratitude, you know, and having that, if we can mass. If we can just try to get that as part of our days, you know, I struggle with that, but I think that's it, too, you know, Your.

[Pete Davidson]

Serotonin must be so, like. You're operating at such a crazy level, dude. You're interviewing the president, like, you get to do every day. That is. Someone's like, if I get to do that once in my life, like, that's my whole life. And you're living that every day. So it's like that. The crash is. It's hard.

[Theo Von]

Well, you too, man. I mean, at least you got to date a lot of beautiful women. I got stuck just interviewing the president. This Amish kid. You know what I'm saying?

[Pete Davidson]

I trade. I trade, dude. I trade.

[Theo Von]

I'm not trading him. He's only 16. I will say a funny thing about him, that. One of my favorite things is I was like, CD ever listen to music? He's like, well, we. We do three hymns every day. When we get to school, he goes. He was. But every now and then, we'll sneak off and listen to some deaf leopard.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, so that's awesome, dude. That's awesome. And cool for Def Leppard. That's what I thought, dude. They should do Amish festival.

[Theo Von]

They should go straight there.

[Pete Davidson]

Absolutely. Right to the source.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, right to the source.

[Pete Davidson]

I haven't heard of Def Leppard since Joe Dirt. Def Leppard sucks. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

But that made me laugh. And he said they listened to some Morgan Wallen.

[Pete Davidson]

Who's that? That's.

[Theo Von]

And some gunna.

[Pete Davidson]

I mean, and Ghana.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, that's.

[Pete Davidson]

I would pay to see.

[Theo Von]

Bring that up.

[Pete Davidson]

But also. Wait, before you do, the guy on the left in this photo, is that not Bruce Springsteen?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, it is. Obviously.

[Pete Davidson]

That's Bruce Springsteen. How.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

What do you mean that's not Bruce Springsteen? Who is that guy? I know he's in depth lever, but that's Bruce Springsteen.

[Theo Von]

Who is that guy?

[Pete Davidson]

Google like zoom in. That's. That's Bruce Brixton, dude.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah. Tim.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, now, now it's not as much, but it looked like him for a second.

[Theo Von]

There's David Hassel off over there on the right.

[Pete Davidson]

Do you have footage of him listening to Gunna Dude?

[Theo Von]

Oh, no. But he does have a good quote about it.

[Pete Davidson]

I would love.

[Theo Von]

You know what's. One of the funny things is Morgan Wallen and I were texting and he's like, man, I think, what if that kid did that walk out with me at my concert.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, dude.

[Theo Von]

And. But he doesn't have an idea. He was gonna. Maybe he. I think it was. I think it was being considered for Canada, his show in Edmonton last week. But they don't get. The Amish don't get identification. Oh, wow.

[Pete Davidson]

They're off the map. They don't get like a passport. No id. No.

[Theo Von]

If somebody's like, you have an id, you have to just draw a picture. He's helping show it to him like that.

[Pete Davidson]

But they have like births. They don't have any of that shit. They're like off grid like that.

[Theo Von]

I'm going to get him to come back another time and get a little bit more in depth with him.

[Pete Davidson]

Dude, he comes. He has a backwards hat. He has fucking ice on. He's so different. He's talking down to you. Like, I would love to see that episode. He's so full of himself, dude. Wearing a Ricky Williams jersey.

[Theo Von]

He has a tattoo on his back this buttered on churn.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, don't turn on me.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, don't turn on me, dude. Let's play this.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he gotta get a couple of those. Like a couple. Get her done. A couple, like.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, we have to get him a.

[Pete Davidson]

Couple hawk to us sort of statements, you know what I mean? So he could sell his own merch out in the Amish country out of his hat. Pulling out merch out of the hat. That'd be fire. Or she saw those music.

[Theo Von]

Do you guys listen to. I know you said in the beginning there's some different Sonos people sneak in some Def Leppard, but if not, you guys just sing a lot. Is there a lot of Amish songs and dancing as well, or.

[Amish Kid]

No, no, in our community there's not really any dancing. There's the, like, the only, like the only Music. Songs that are really louder would be like, like, Chairman Hymns. And sometimes we, like, sneak out on the weekends and stuff and.

[Theo Von]

And listen to some Soulja Boy or something.

[Amish Kid]

Yeah, like. Like Def Leppard, Bonchovi.

[Pete Davidson]

Bon Jovi.

[Amish Kid]

Lot of Amish, like, rock and roll and then I guess Howl's EDM music. And then also a lot of country.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, so everything we crank up Spotify.

[Amish Kid]

Listen to, like, a little bit of rap stuff. Like Amish paradise is. That's a pretty good song.

[Theo Von]

Who sang that?

[Amish Kid]

Weird. Ali Ankovic.

[Pete Davidson]

I did.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that makes perfect sense. That's brutal. Yeah.

[Amish Kid]

Amish Prairie. That's a pretty. I love that song.

[Theo Von]

That's a banger, huh?

[Amish Kid]

It is a ban. Yeah, he looks a little bit mad there, but it was a pretty good song.

[Pete Davidson]

It's like me liking a song that just is called 9 11.

[Amish Kid]

Also, like, I like to listen a little bit of, like, rap stuff, too.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah?

[Amish Kid]

A little bit of Ghana.

[Theo Von]

Oh, you listen to some Ghana?

[Amish Kid]

Yeah, like. Like, I don't really listen to what he says. I looked at the lyrics, like, a couple times, and, like, they're. There's the lyrics on Aren't the best, but, like, very melodic.

[Theo Von]

He's a vibe. Yeah, that's good.

[Pete Davidson]

That's. That's dope, dude.

[Theo Von]

That's good.

[Pete Davidson]

That kid rules.

[Theo Von]

He does rule, man. You know what's funny, man? Even saying that about him. It's like anyone I think about it, like, the worst thing I think is, like, about drugs addiction, that sort of thing. And it could be like, I'm in, like, group, like, slaa. Like, I'm in all. Like, I'm in a lot of different groups, you know, like, intimacy disorder type, like, connect connectivity disorder, you know, like, which probably some of it stems from just, like, watching porn and growing up like that. But any addiction stuff, it takes you away from, like, just good moments in life, right?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

It takes you away from, like, the mornings where you get to meet up and meet with a friend for coffee, or you get to work out and feel good about yourself walking out. Or you get to text a friend in the morning and say, hey, have a great day. Right? Or you get to sit with somebody like that who's just.

[Pete Davidson]

Because you wake up and you're like, don't jerk off. Don't jerk off. Don't jerk off, jerk off. Yeah, and then you jerk off, and then you can go hang out.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's the worst, dude. It's tough, dude, when you feel like everybody knows you've been jerking off.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Yeah. It's like smoking weed where you're like, everyone knows I'm high. Everyone knows I just jerked off.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Because I'm so relaxed. Do you keep up with it? When are you more into the meetings and stuff? When you're like, I, like. I'm like, tweaking, or do you do it both, like, regularly and one year.

[Theo Von]

Oh. If I'm having tough times or not having tough times, I'm always to go to meetings.

[Pete Davidson]

Cool.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Meetings have always been kind of a thing for me, I think.

[Pete Davidson]

Do you have a. Do you have. I'm sure I don't know if you feel this way, but sometimes you're in a meeting, you're like. Some of these dudes just like to talk.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, where you're like, oh, this guy's here.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

And he's gonna tell that story. And it's so long.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

And it means so much to him. And it's pretty mid compared to anything I've ever done. It's not. It's not to diminish his stuff, but, like, yeah, there's some meat. There's some meeting, like warriors. Where you're like, okay. Yeah, I got it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. One dude would play that song, this Little Light of Mine. Have you ever heard that? During his shares or whatever.

[Pete Davidson]

I never saw it, but I know that song.

[Theo Von]

This Little Light of Mine, I'm gonna let it shine. But he would put that really low on his phone while he would share it. A meeting, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

And people like, oh, dude, that's tough.

[Theo Von]

So some of that shit was crazy. But then that's when I'm recognized. Oh, I have. I'm impatient with people. And this is a practice for me to just sit here and be patient.

[Pete Davidson]

Right.

[Theo Von]

You know?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

But the best is also.

[Pete Davidson]

That's annoying as.

[Theo Von]

Yes.

[Pete Davidson]

Yes. But you have to find the balance. Yeah. But. Because that is. That sucks. I don't want you to think you're acting out of character, like, I need to be a better person. That. That sounds like it's miserable.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. And sometimes he would even do the City Cane Holders, whatever that song is. But to be. Go back.

[Pete Davidson]

Who cares?

[Theo Von]

Have you been jerking off or not? It's Raymond's turn to share. Let's keep it moving, dude. Sometimes you're like. But then you're like, I'm impatient. And that's why I'm probably not. Probably why I'm not. I have not in a relationship. I'm just impatient. You know? Like those types of things, you know? Oh, it's Macklemore. I love Macklemore.

[Pete Davidson]

I love Macklemore, too. I hope he drops a bag or something. We miss him, bro.

[Theo Von]

Get with the Amish, bro.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, he'd be perfect.

[Theo Von]

That would be perfect.

[Pete Davidson]

That would be sick. The Macklemore revival in Amish country, bro.

[Theo Von]

If Macklemore hit up the Amish, dude, that's a.

[Pete Davidson]

That's an untapped market.

[Theo Von]

This hay bell can hold. This yellow fever can hold us. Do they get diseases out there? I don't even know.

[Pete Davidson]

Well, they don't have doctors, right? They just have a guy that's like the Bishop. Yeah, yeah.

[Theo Von]

That's what he says all the time.

[Pete Davidson]

Do people drop like flies in honest country?

[Theo Von]

People don't die that much. There's no depression. There's no ADHD out there, bro. They're living there.

[Pete Davidson]

How big is. Is the town? Like, is it a mile?

[Theo Von]

It's a good point, because I imagine.

[Pete Davidson]

It just looks like a back to the future to three.

[Theo Von]

Says Mercantile.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, just like. Just like six, like, houses and dirt, you know?

[Theo Von]

And I think you're right.

[Pete Davidson]

Right.

[Theo Von]

He gave a tour of his house the other day. Somebody said when his parents were out, not out of town, but they were, like, in another district. Is that it right there? Oh, that's the back to the Future. Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

I feel like it looks like that. Dude, it has to. He's setting up an Airbnb over there.

[Theo Von]

Did you. Once you started to feel better, did you. Did that create a space you. Because I know you have a. You're having a child. You have a child?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I'm having a child. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

A boy.

[Pete Davidson]

We have not disclosed.

[Theo Von]

But you. You do know, though?

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, we know.

[Theo Von]

Okay.

[Pete Davidson]

Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, coming soon. Dropping a baby soon.

[Theo Von]

Okay.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. I'm thrilled, dude.

[Theo Von]

That's cool.

[Pete Davidson]

It was.

[Theo Von]

Was it hard to get to that place? Do you think you'd have been able to get there if you didn't get into, like, in sobriety or those sort of things, or get into the recovery, like, that sort of environment? Like, did that adjust any of the way that you were, like, thinking about having a family or relationship to anything?

[Pete Davidson]

So thank God that I'm sober and where I am. I wish I had more time. I don't think anybody's ever, like, I'm ready. I don't. I wouldn't know. But I wish I had more time of sobriety because it's only been, like, a year and change, but I'm very grateful that it happened now and with the person with Elsie because, you know, when. In other relationships or when I was, you know, I was a drug addict and, you know, very mentally deranged. But, like, that was my goal. Like, I need. I need to have a kid. I need to get married, like. Cause that's how I grew up. Like, all my aunts and uncles got married at, like, 21. And they know. And they knew each other since grammar school, and, like, they had three kids by 26.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's fire department, Staten Island. Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Blue collar.

[Theo Von]

Meeting a burn unit and fucking. Yeah, yeah. So, like, skin grafts and then we're having.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Theo Von]

You know.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Like, every music video, like, you know, but I was so not ready. I was not. I didn't even know. I still don't really know who I am. I think we're. I'm learning, but I. I. There's no way that that was possible. And I almost think that's. That's why it didn't happen, because I was like, I need to do this. I have to do this. And, you know, no one wanted to do that with me. Like, you know, like, you know, but I think I knew that, and that's why it was like. And then I just. Then I just. I stopped dating, and I was like, I need to fucking get better, and I need to, like, be in a place where I could even have a healthy relationship. And, like, if that comes, great. It's like, you can't, like, can't go into stuff with, like, this needs to. I got, like, that's. First of all, it's a lot of pressure on your partner. It's a lot of pressure on you, and you're, like, kind of setting yourself up for failure, and it's like, you know, that was just, like. My whole upbringing was like, that's how it works. So I think it was, like, kind of backwards for me, especially in this business. That's not how that works.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, because people have options. You know, when.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

When you're growing up in a small town, it's like, there's these four girls you could pick from.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, this is. This is who I went to school with, you know, so I'm really grateful it happened now. And I wasn't looking for a relationship or looking to. You know, obviously I wanted to, but I wasn't looking to have a baby. And it all just kind of happened at once. And it's been, like, awesome.

[Theo Von]

Dang.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. I'm, like, relieved it's her, and just. It's. I'm fucking excited, dude. It's awesome. And it's also, like, selfishly, like, I get to be unselfish. Like, I'm not the focal point of my life anymore, where it's, like, so sick of myself. I'm fucking exhausted. Like, I get, like.

[Theo Von]

When I were exhausted of you just as people.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, no, I get it. Like, now. I, like, I get it. Like, I was like, I do.

[Theo Von]

I'm joking.

[Pete Davidson]

No, I'm serious. I was just. I was just. I'd be like, yeah, I'd. I'd be annoyed, too. Like, I. I didn't. Like, how. I didn't think that's how I was. And I think anybody that knows me knows that's not.

[Theo Von]

Oh, no, I was totally just joking. But I think you see people's faces so much. I just think, like, that's even how I feel, dude. I'll see a social media. I'll be like, God, somebody burned me down. I just.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, it's relentless.

[Theo Von]

What else do we have to, like?

[Pete Davidson]

It's. I still think it's too much, like, you know, I'm amazed by people who could, you know, who are super famous and do amazing work that just, like, you only see them when they're working.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

And there's not, like, random articles like, these two guys hung out or he went to a Knicks game. It's like, I'm so envious of people that are able to, you know, separate, you know, that. That sort of life. But, yeah, it's tough, though. It's tough because they need shit to write about all day because our minds are so. You know, every two hours, you forget, and then you want to read something else. So, like, I think it's tough. It's tougher to be like that. Someone's gonna be like, oh, it's so.

[Theo Von]

Hard to be a celebrity.

[Pete Davidson]

But, like, it's. It's tougher.

[Theo Von]

It's life.

[Pete Davidson]

It's tougher now. And, you know, some reason we should.

[Theo Von]

Just be able to hide. Remember, the only things we knew were Richard Gere was, you know, starting a pet store in his ass or whatever.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

And what else?

[Pete Davidson]

Then you see one of his movies, and you're like, I don't care.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's good.

[Pete Davidson]

Set up sh. This movie. And you're. And he's handsome.

[Theo Von]

Hey, I'll even watch him do a little doctor do little.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, this guy, bro, that would have been a great sketch, dude, if he just. That's. If he just owned it. I bet he would have been able to beat that if he just did SNL and played Dr. Dolittle. And then.

[Theo Von]

Crazy story.

[Pete Davidson]

That's so, like. That's one of. There's so many stories where I'm just like, how did this ruin someone's life? Like, there's. There's rumors that, like, great stories, like, Rod Stewart drank so much cum, his stomach needs to be pumped. And I was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, that's. But when you're. When you're in high school, you're like, oh, yeah. Fucking idiot. And then you're like, 30, and you're like, that's not even possible, man.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, dude. Where do you even get that?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, there's no. There's. There's no amount of come in the world that you could.

[Theo Von]

I wouldn't think. I don't know. I think if you had a lot, it looks like. I don't know. I've only seen somebody have a little.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, yeah. Like, where are you getting all this cum from?

[Theo Von]

Well, that's another thing.

[Pete Davidson]

That's another thing.

[Theo Von]

I don't know.

[Pete Davidson]

But, yeah, I remember. Just.

[Theo Von]

And now it has microplastics in it. A lot of it.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

That's the craziest thing.

[Pete Davidson]

Non GMO come.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Our cum's even bad in America.

[Theo Von]

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[Pete Davidson]

So, like, it got to a point where, like, here's the problem with going to therapy for, like, tabloid shit. They're like, like, your therapist is like, yeah, I don't know.

[Theo Von]

Right?

[Pete Davidson]

Like, I don't. You're part of, like, a very small group of people. And then I would. What really freaked me out was I, like, I would call Sandler or, like, Stiller or, like, you know, I was like, hey, when you. When you were, like, young and sound like, I don't know about it, I never. I never really got that, yeah, we're dealing with sucks, you know? And I'm like, oh, I'm so alone in this dude. And, like, when you call the goats and the big, big dogs, and they're like, I don't know it. So it became a. Like, it got to the point where I, like, wouldn't go outside, and, like, I would stay inside, and then these articles would keep coming up, and, like, it's always, like, a source close to. And I'm like, I don't even have friends anymore. I'm like, who are these people? And then it got to a point where I was just like, I'm not doing anything. This is running my life. Whether I am happy or go out or not, this is still going to happen. I might as well, like, go fucking have fun. Like, who the fudge cares? And then what really helped me was I would put someone else's name in the title of the article and see if I cared.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, I'd be like, you know, so and so. Like Hugh Jackman, so and so. So I'm like, I don't really give a fudge.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, but when it's you, you're like, everybody's reading this. Everybody. When they look at me, this is what they think.

[Theo Von]

And it's like, it's not true.

[Pete Davidson]

No one reads that shit.

[Theo Von]

That's the truth.

[Pete Davidson]

Really, no one. Literally no one reads that shit except for, like, people in our shit and.

[Theo Von]

The people that write it and the people that still give a fuck about.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, you're like a bus driver. Like, they just like, want to see you do the thing they like that you do. Like, they want to see you in a movie or they want, like, no one's like, fudgeing. No one has time for that. But we're in this, like, bubble where it's like, we think all this shit is, like, matters.

[Theo Von]

Well, I think that's a scary thing about Hollywood. Scary thing that always kind of scared me about Hollywood and that sort of environment is it feels like they build you up and then they can all. It's this cycle, right.

[Pete Davidson]

They can't wait.

[Theo Von]

Right. And it feels like it's dirty, but it's just the most opportune cycle. Every moment of it. There's a possibility for everything. Right? And so it.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, look at Pedro Pascal right now, two years ago. You know, he's a hard working, great actor.

[Theo Von]

Eddington was great. You see it?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, it's great. Joaquin and that guy Ari Astron's just.

[Theo Von]

He is good, huh?

[Pete Davidson]

He's so good. He just makes sure where I'm just like, I would never be able to think like that, you know, but everyone was like, he's worked so hard and, you know, has been a struggling actor. Blows up so hard. Everyone's like, daddy, daddy. Yeah, daddy, daddy, Right? And then a year later, he's like, in everything now because he's hot and, and big. And everyone's like, go the away, dude. It's like, yo, give.

[Theo Von]

I hope Ice gets Pascal.

[Pete Davidson]

You're like, what, dude? So just like, you got to give someone time to adjust to that new level of fame. Like, you know, he's been banging at it for 30 years, and now he's like, he, he's learning how to go get a Cup of coffee. Or, like, deal with someone that, like, taps you on the shoulder while you have your earbuds in and freaks you out. Like, you gotta give that guy a fucking second to, like, adjust. Like, you know what I mean? And also, like, what happened? They're gonna do it with Walton. Goggins will be next. They'll be like, what the fuck? You know? It's like we build everybody up, and now it's so fast. It's, like, so fast to turn. And then.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, the turn is crazy, bro.

[Pete Davidson]

It's like, within months. It's within months where you're like, what the.

[Theo Von]

Look at Amish Timothy, huh?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Out here drinking homogenized milk. I've heard. Yeah, he'll be bringing him down soon.

[Pete Davidson]

Even like, the. You know, Like, I know it's different, but, like, the thing with that hawk to a girl was so sad. Like, I remember just being like. Like, this is sad.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Like, she's not. You know what I mean?

[Theo Von]

What's going on here? She's jerking them or something. She was kind of. Hypothetically. BJ. BJing a man or something on the interview. And then they got her into a meme coin or something.

[Pete Davidson]

I was like, yeah, she was like, this sweet girl that's, like, everyone fell in love with her because, like, she's, like, you know, kind of normal and, like, just cares about pets. And everyone's like, this girl's actually cool, you know? Then does, like, one thing that didn't go the way everybody wanted it to, and, like, she doesn't know how to fucking run crypto. Like, I don't even know what. Fuck.

[Theo Von]

Fuck.

[Pete Davidson]

I don't even know what crypto is, dude. If I can't hold it physically, like, I don't fuck with it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, dude. And the fact that people were like, yeah, I'm.

[Pete Davidson]

Fuck you. Like, this girl. This is who you're gonna. Everything going on in the world, and fuck this girl. Are you kidding? Like, leave her alone.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, she had a pretty good blowjob recipe, I thought, you know.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

People are just.

[Pete Davidson]

I laugh.

[Theo Von]

Left. Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know? I mean, God, this is the enemy.

[Theo Von]

It's so crazy.

[Pete Davidson]

Crazy, dude.

[Theo Von]

But I think it's. I think, as if you can get on the right side of your own self, right? Then you can be in control or you can at least have some awareness. And that's where I think, like, the value is these days is the relationship you can have with yourself is more important than ever and just understanding of what's going on, that this is how it Is. And so let me be in control of myself and not just at the whims of how do other people feel about me. Just all these little things of, you know, like all these addictive thing, you know, it's like if the more you can get control over yourself, the better chance you have.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, there's also part of you, though, that has to go through it to understand a little bit. Like.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know what I mean? Like, I was also super judgy, like growing up like that dude. Like, this is an example I love to use. You remember when Christian Bale, like yelled at that dude on the Terminator set?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

So I was like 12 years old when that audio came out. You want me to trash your fucking lights? You know it's distracting, right? And I remember hearing that and being I was 12, I was like, what an asshole. Fuck Christian Bale. You're a Batman dude. You're yelling at like a lighting dude. Ten years later, I made one movie. I was like, what the fuck did that lighting guy do?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

To make Christian Bale so mad that he even knew who he was. Like. And then you. And then I did some digging and it's like the guy was in the shot.

[Theo Von]

Yep.

[Pete Davidson]

He was on his phone and Christian Bale's trying to cry to a terminator. He's a 35 year old man trying to cry to a robot.

[Theo Von]

Right. These days is easy.

[Pete Davidson]

But this is 20 years in a bad movie. Like. Like he's trying to cry halfway through a bad movie. And there's a lighting guy around in his shot.

[Theo Von]

The lighting guys over there doing these things.

[Pete Davidson]

So it's like he was right. But like, the world don't know that because not the world has not made a movie like, or like dealt with any of that stuff.

[Theo Von]

There's no way to win, right? There's no way to win the thing where everybody likes you, it's all just a trap, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. And they could smell it on you.

[Theo Von]

And we don't know what people are going through. You don't know what Christian Bale is going through.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

He's so good.

[Pete Davidson]

He's unbelievable. It's also just like I remember, you know, before. It sounds shitty to say, but before you're at a certain level or in this thing. Like, I remember I used to be like, wow, that guy's a fucking dick. Like, you see like a video of someone being like, hey, can I take a picture? And they're like, hey, man, I'm like eating. Or like, whatever. It's like Maybe that guy's like fighting with someone or like, maybe he's having a bad day. Maybe his grandpa's sick or maybe he's just hungover. Or there's so many. Like think about how you feel every day, you know, so we're just so quick to be like, oh, that guy's a fucking asshole. Yeah, maybe he's tired, dude. Yeah, he's tired.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Maybe he has a. Maybe he has a back. Maybe it's one of those. Those things that are supposed to be working out your abs on. Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, maybe he's in the zone, dude.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Oh, so the tour. Let me find out the dates you're going on too. I don't want to keep you too long. It's been a fun conversation, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, dude, I love it and I'm.

[Theo Von]

Just glad to think. Think about some of this stuff. Yeah, definitely. Right when you walked in, man could see a whole different light in your eyes. Just overall, you know.

[Pete Davidson]

Thanks.

[Theo Von]

Just like a warm energy that feels hopeful and it's not judgmental. I just. But I see it in a lot of sober guys, you know, you see guys that just like they're feeling good, you know.

[Pete Davidson]

And I appreciate that. And you've always been advertising so kind to me and awesome like throughout I've. I don't know if you remember. I remember used to live in la. We used to I surrounded to you all the time at the improv and as I was a kid and getting older and you are always so, so kind and cool and.

[Theo Von]

And. Oh, thanks.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. And especially at times where certain people weren't or like the. The popular thing was to be like that dude. And you were just always awesome. I always appreciated that. So.

[Theo Von]

Well, thanks, Pete. That's nice of you. I know my friend Simon Rex thinks so highly of you and.

[Pete Davidson]

Who. Crispy.

[Theo Von]

Hey, Crispy baby.

[Pete Davidson]

Crispy baby. How about that dude?

[Theo Von]

He's so great, huh?

[Pete Davidson]

The turnaround.

[Theo Von]

He helped me so much. One night he saw me do a set at the Laugh Factor and he tweeted about it it. And it was like the first person that was like, like I love Simon sense of what's cool, right? He just. Because he's his own thing and unapologetically just like he was like, this guy's act is cool. Something that just made me feel like, whoa. And that was like, it's still one of the highlights of my whole life. And then yeah, I knew you guys have spent some time together over the years.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, he's the best dude. We like live together for A while. He's. He's the man also just like love. We all love a turnaround man. Like, oh, yeah, his glow up like crazy.

[Theo Von]

Crazy Red rocket. That movie was bonkers. That's the first movie premiere I ever went to was to see his red. To see. Well, I guess you actually see his red rocket.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, you kind of do.

[Theo Von]

There's a wiener. I hope it's an actor wiener or whatever.

[Pete Davidson]

An actor wiener is hilarious.

[Theo Von]

But if it's a damn. Yeah, look at that wiener that we're paying for.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. So.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah, that was fun, dude, watching him.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. And also just like, you know, when he got. I remember I cried when he got that indie award. Like, is it like it. You know, you see actors that are at the top of their game or, you know, very wealthy or, you know, you know. Not saying Simon's not. I'm just saying, like, you see people who are kind of used to that sort of reception, and it was like the most honest. If you guys are at home, watch Simon Rex win an Indie Spirit Award, it is pulled it up. You get so emotional, dude. Like, it means so much to him and like, you know, he's awesome and stuff, but like, you know, he. He was kind of in. In a certain category. He would self. Admittedly say, like, people not. Not that people didn't take him seriously. Just like, you're a silly goose sort of guy.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. And he is a silly goose, and he is. But he found his own. He felt like even a silly goose can. Can is full of golden eggs, you know?

[Pete Davidson]

Simon. Simon Baker.

[Theo Von]

Simon.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, no. Sean Baker. Sean Baker. Geez. I should.

[Theo Von]

I should probably know that name maybe. Please put me in your movie.

[Pete Davidson]

No, he's a really nice guy, but Sean Baker saw it, like, just saw the. The magic in him.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

You know what I mean?

[Theo Von]

Well, the Florida project was way too long too. I'll say that. Sean Baker. And I'll say that with my chest. We played a little bit of schizophrenia. Simon gets it.

[Pete Davidson]

Okay.

[Simon Rex]

What the fuck? Thank you, film Independent, for recognizing my fake penis.

[Pete Davidson]

Right away, silly goose.

[Simon Rex]

Where do I begin? Sean Baker. Sean Baker. You took a shot on me when I could not get a call back for a GEICO commercial. I couldn't get arrested. And this man believed in me and took a shot. And I'm so glad I delivered for you, Sean. Truly, you're a genius. Writer, director, editor, casting. He did it all, and he decided to give me a shot, and I didn't want to let him down. And here I am. I honestly Honestly, my career was in the toilet. I gave up. I moved out to Joshua Tree and said, maybe it's all over. And all of a sudden I get a phone call out of the blue from Sean and he just gave me a shot and he called me and said, look, do you trust me? And I seen this film. So I, I did trust him. And he said, you're not going to make any money. I'm not going to make any money. We're going to go make a movie real quick. And we made something special on a very low budget with a 10 person crew. I want to thank everybody from the crew of the film, everyone in the cast. Susanna Son, my co star. Thank you so much. I want to thank Bri Elrod, my other co star in the love triangle. Every local actor from Texas who was a first time actor.

[Theo Von]

So cool.

[Pete Davidson]

Sick.

[Simon Rex]

They blew me away. This was like one of those magical things that happens once in a lifetime and I don't even, I'm still in shock. We shot this during COVID Even finishing this movie was ambitious and I, I'm reeling from the whole experience. So also, you know, thank you to Film Independent Everybody. Thank you A24. Thank you Film Nation. Thank you you LA pack. Thank you Focus Universal.

[Pete Davidson]

His ending is at the end. He just goes, I'll give a anymore.

[Simon Rex]

And all I want to do. I don't care about fame or money. I got caught in that trap a long time ago. I've been in this business 25 years and it's not about anything except doing good work. I just want to continue to surprise people and do good work. And that's really what this is all about, this movie.

[Pete Davidson]

I love that line. I got caught up in that a long time. I'm just happy to be special guy. He's a good guy, dude.

[Theo Von]

He is.

[Pete Davidson]

He's crispy, dude.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's so crispy, baby. I've met so many great people through, through him, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Super tapped in like.

[Theo Von]

And if people know him, it's like, oh, okay.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh yeah.

[Theo Von]

He's like kind of like, like that trustworthy. Like he's like the elbow. It's like, okay, yep. Then I'll. Then I'll let these two parts of it connect.

[Pete Davidson]

Absolutely. And he's like a, you know, he dates back. He'll be like, yeah, I was hanging with like how the do you know.

[Theo Von]

He dated Betsy Ross's daughter. That's crazy, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, crazy. Yeah. He's like, I was hanging out with. So I'm like, how? Because you, you know He's. He's like 50, but like, he looks 37.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

But also 80 at the same time. Like. Like, he's like. I call him Desert Hot, where he's just like. You're like, what are you.

[Theo Von]

Dude.

[Pete Davidson]

But yeah, he. His.

[Theo Von]

He's unbelievable. A lot of his. Yeah. Some of his ex girlfriends have even passed away, dude. Some in this hotel. Yeah. In his room.

[Pete Davidson]

So.

[Theo Von]

Brittany Murphy. But what else? A couple things you're excited about, about having a child, and then we'll get you. We'll get you out of here.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, it sounds super corny, but just like, super stoked to give this kid a happy childhood and be reliable and just, like, not. You just don't want your kid. I mean, fuck do I know? I'm not a dad, but I'm going to be. But, like, I assume I just want my kid to not have the same troubles I had and fears and insecurities and just like, just be there. Just, like, be there and be like a solid, like, rock, you know? And also, I'm excited to see my girl be a mom. That's. That's gonna be cool.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that is cool.

[Pete Davidson]

You know, and it'll probably be so hot, too.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah. I'm just like, whoa, put a apron on or whatever.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, she's gonna get to do cool mom, you know, and, you know, scream like, the bus is here. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's so hot. No, but all kidding aside, like, I'm.

[Theo Von]

Just get her one of those. Yes, we can tattoo.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. I'm just excited, you know, Halloween, we all dress up because now Halloween will be cool and not, like, sad, you know, that we're all being. And we're 30, you know?

[Theo Von]

Yeah. You're out there slurping some chick's crotch for a snicker or whatever.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, totally.

[Theo Von]

Type, man.

[Pete Davidson]

Hell yeah, dude.

[Theo Von]

So.

[Pete Davidson]

And then she. After you're done slurping, she's like, I don't even have Snickers.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. How does Amy feel? Does she did. What's she waiting.

[Pete Davidson]

My mom would have this kid with me if she could. My mom has been starved for a grandchild. She's already. She's talking to my girl's belly, being like, I made me. I made me. She's like, that's Grandma Amy. I made me. I'm like, you gotta back off.

[Theo Von]

That sounds a little cultural appropriation as well. A little bit.

[Pete Davidson]

You gotta back off a little bit. She's overly excited. It's also. It's. It's sweet. Because I feel guilty about my mom giving up dating and just having a life in general to raise me and my sister alone. And I didn't realize it till I got older, like, oh, shit. Like, she was kind of the goat. Like, she. She really cared about. And I feel like since me and my sister moved out and we're getting older, like, she's. She's kind of. I don't want to talk in any sort of way about, but I feel like she's kind of bored and a little lonely because I've been like, you should date. And she's like, nah, your dad was my guy. And I'm like, they don't make you. You anymore, this woman. You know what I mean? And I just. I'm very excited for her to have. Not purpose, but just, like, to be excited about something and like, yeah, baby something, you know, and raise. Raise something. So I'm really excited to see. See her in that. In that grandma role.

[Theo Von]

It's gonna be cool, dude. I'm excited for Amy.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. I'm stoked.

[Theo Von]

So it's gonna be fun.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

And it. Just grow the family. It's cool. You guys deserve it.

[Pete Davidson]

Thanks, man. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm also, like, we're. We're. I don't know if. If you have a huge family, but my. I have six aunts and uncles, and they all have three, four kids, so there's like 40 cousins. And I was like. I was first in the paint to have a kid, so.

[Theo Von]

Really?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. So I'm. So this baby's gonna get all the love first.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

I mean. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm stoked.

[Theo Von]

That's gonna be awesome, man. I was just thinking real fast about Silver Lining Playbook.

[Pete Davidson]

No, that's a good movie, man.

[Theo Von]

It's so good.

[Pete Davidson]

Cool to think about it.

[Theo Von]

God, I saw that the other. I saw it, like, a couple weeks ago.

[Pete Davidson]

Remember? Chris Tucker was in it. Rant. You're like, oh, yeah, there's Chris Tucker.

[Theo Von]

Dude, that movie is so good. Oh, no, the movie Frequency. Have you ever seen it?

[Pete Davidson]

Jim Caviezel, Dennis Quaid.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, dude, I got one of my favorite movies. It makes me think of you whenever I see it, bro.

[Pete Davidson]

Yo, I've been waiting to talk frequency with someone my entire life, so I love that movie so much, for obvious reasons.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

But here's what's really funny. 2002 came out of what, 98 or 2000, right? Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Good movie.

[Pete Davidson]

So it's 2002, and my grandma for Christmas got me the frequency VHS or dvd? And she was like, you're gonna love this movie. And I watched it and I was just like, why would you give it to me, like, if it was not a movie at like 8 years old, 6 months after my dad died? That I was like, prepared to see. But it's literally the Pete Davidson fantasy.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

So guys, you gotta. Jim Caviezel is fucking in the present and he's 30 years old and his dad's dead and he was a fireman and his dad died like 20, 30 years ago or whatever. And he gets this old CB radio and there's this weird thing going on in the sky and he just like plugs it in one night because he's sad. And then his dad is on the other side 20 years ago, talking. They talk to each other, they solve a crime and they fucking. And he comes back at the end, he changes the life trajectory and I'm just like, oh my God. Yeah, I hope it happens. I really do. There's a. There's a legit part of me that's like. Sometimes I'll be on ebay and I'll be like, CB radio. Yeah, working, working. Not project working. I don't want a project. But yeah, it's my fantasy, right?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, that'd be dope.

[Pete Davidson]

Or at least let me remake it. You know, I've been seeing like, they're making like the show about 9 11, and I'm like, call me up, dude. I should be grandfathered into those projects. I should get. I should get a piece of those.

[Theo Von]

The power of. But it's the power of filmmaking itself, man. This movie filled in little spots for. I think anybody who is. Who's. Who had a father, didn't have a father. Just. It fills in little pieces, right. And I think that's what art does for. For people, man. I think you're going to be able to do a lot of that for people in the future if you want, man.

[Pete Davidson]

Thanks, man. It's also so exact.

[Theo Von]

It's so good.

[Pete Davidson]

You ever have a. Do you have a movie like that where you're like, this is about me. This is my dream.

[Theo Von]

I kind of think like family, man, sometimes. That's a movie I love the most. Yeah. With Nicholas Cage, that holiday movie, the Christmas movie. And I don't even know why, but that's like the. And then A League of Their Own about lesbianism or whatever in the 40s or whatever.

[Pete Davidson]

I love Zero Dark Thirty.

[Theo Von]

I haven't seen Zero Dark Thirty.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, dude, I like jerk off to. It's about SEAL Team 6 taking out Osama bin Laden. It's awesome, dude.

[Theo Von]

We'll show them, you know. But this one thing that I did, I saw Dennis Craig one time and I said, man, frequency is, I think, one of my favorite movies ever. Oh, yeah. He goes, it's one of my favorite movies, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Say I told him at the Montreal Comedy Festival. Yeah, he's like, cool and, like, out and about.

[Theo Von]

So cool.

[Pete Davidson]

And I ran into him and I was like, hey. Like, I had, like, tears in my eyes. I was like, you, like, you changed my life. He was like, hey, man, I love that movie, too. Like, I was like, yes. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Pretty cool.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he's awesome. We went to the same dentist for a while.

[Theo Von]

Oh, really?

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, we're just in that same. You know that when you live in la, you know that, like, if you pass Fairfax, it's just that giant, like that office building.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

And he just would always be in there. Oh, dude, look. You look. You look hot.

[Theo Von]

Dude definitely was having a tough time. He actually got in a fight in the parking lot on the way out that I believe.

[Pete Davidson]

Someone said, frequency sucks. And he was like, save Pete Davis life.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, it was a. I don't know, it was some sort of a dispute in the parking lot, but it was a true story. And God bless him. And Randy Quaid. We almost had him. Me and Spade wrote a movie and we almost had Randy Quaid in it, but he couldn't get back into the country.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah. What's going on? He's on, like, the run from the authorities.

[Theo Von]

It's a lot of things we're looking at him on. So maybe you'll come in and talk to us about it.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he's a legend, dude.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

He was the Quaid at one point. Yeah, he was the main Quaid.

[Theo Von]

And now Jack is. And now Jack Quaid, Jack of all Quaid, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Dude, doesn't get better than that. You just slam dunked all over the fucking place. The Jack of all Quaid.

[Theo Von]

I'll accept that.

[Pete Davidson]

That's unbelievable. I'm jealous.

[Theo Von]

The tour dates. Let's say one more time, Pete, and then we'll get you out of here, man. Thanks so much, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Dude, thank you.

[Theo Von]

A lot of fun.

[Pete Davidson]

Pleasure for me. And we got Singapore on the 26th of September, Perth on 28th, Melbourne on the 29th, Sydney on the 1st. So I guess there's a little break there. Then the third, I'm at the Re Riyadh. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia Festival, October 5th. I'm in Berlin at The tempo drum. Tempo drum. That's Germany.

[Theo Von]

Then you got October 6th in Amsterdam.

[Pete Davidson]

Amsterdam, October. London, London. The Palladium. Very excited to do that. And then Dublin on the 9th and Belfast on the 10th. Hooray.

[Theo Von]

Nothing better than Ireland, brother.

[Pete Davidson]

I'm excited.

[Theo Von]

That's the best, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

I'm excited.

[Theo Von]

Belfast. They made the Titanic there. They did, yeah, they made it. And it's crazy screwed up, dude. They did. But they still have a museum about it. It's like you kind of.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah, yeah. If I was. Yeah, if I was that country, I would. I would ignore it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, me too, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

It would be like one of those things, like. Yeah, yeah, we did. Anyway, here's Guinness. We did also make Guinness.

[Theo Von]

And. Yeah, that's. That's. That's good enough. Pete Davidson. Congrats, dude.

[Pete Davidson]

Thank you very much.

[Theo Von]

To be a dad, you're going to be out there inspiring some young child's future. And give a hug to Amy for us, man. And we love you. Congratulations on. On an exciting career. And thanks for just sharing some stuff with us today.

[Pete Davidson]

Thanks. Love you too, man. Appreciate it. And please, if you see the. The Amish kid alone again, tell him. Tell myself it up.

[Theo Von]

I will. You know what? I'll get a note from him for you.

[Pete Davidson]

Oh, please.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Pete Davidson]

Now I'm just the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone.

[Simon Rex]

Oh but when I.

[Pete Davidson]

Reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take.