E551 Timothée Chalamet - This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

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Podcast Summary: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von – Episode E551 Featuring Timothée Chalamet

Release Date: December 16, 2024

Introduction

In episode E551 of "This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von," host Theo Von sits down with renowned actor Timothée Chalamet to discuss a range of topics, from personal experiences in Nashville to the intricacies of preparing for a biopic on Bob Dylan. The conversation is both engaging and insightful, offering listeners a deep dive into the lives and thoughts of two prominent figures in the entertainment industry.

Exploring Nashville: A City of Charm and Mystery (02:01 – 04:29)

Theo and Timothée kick off their conversation by discussing Nashville, where both have recently spent time. Timothée shares his impressions of the city, highlighting its friendly atmosphere and tight-knit community.

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 02:17: “You can’t cheat on your wife there. So it’s not because the city’s too small.”

Theo compares Nashville to other cities like New Orleans and Austin, noting its unique blend of safety and intrigue.

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 04:24: “Nashville reminded me of Austin a little bit. Sort of. Yeah. But yeah.”

Sports and College Athletics: A Shared Interest (04:30 – 07:41)

The conversation shifts to sports, particularly soccer and college athletics. Theo mentions his enthusiasm for Lipscomb College’s soccer team, which has been ranked in the top 25 in recent years. Timothée expresses interest in attending the games, emphasizing the close-knit nature of college sports in Nashville.

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 05:11: “Their soccer team was ranked in the top 25 the past few years.”

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 07:15: “But they know that their football program’s not that good, right?”

Personal Upbringing and the Path to Acting (07:42 – 21:28)

Theo and Timothée delve into their personal backgrounds, discussing their upbringing and journey into the acting world. Timothée shares his experiences from Louisiana to moving to Los Angeles, while Theo reflects on his education and early career in acting.

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 07:29: “I never had that American college experience. I went to Columbia for a second. I went to NYU, so I’m jealous of that.”

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 21:28: “I went to high school drama clubs, but I would always mess it up.”

A Complete Unknown: Portraying Bob Dylan (17:43 – 31:44)

A significant portion of the podcast is dedicated to Timothée’s role in "A Complete Unknown," a biopic about Bob Dylan set to release on Christmas Day. They discuss the challenges and responsibilities of depicting such an iconic figure accurately and respectfully.

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 17:43: “The film’s taken from Elijah Wald’s 'Dylan Goes Electric,' a book that came out in 2015. It’s a fantastic retelling of events from the early 60s that led up to the fiasco at Newport.”

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 31:42: “This movie honors Bob Dylan without making it like Hollywood’s watered-down version.”

Method Acting and Character Preparation (31:45 – 43:37)

Timothée explains his method acting approach for playing Bob Dylan, including working with dialect coach Tim Monic to master Dylan’s unique voice and mannerisms. Theo shares his own experiences with method acting, emphasizing the dedication required to embody a character fully.

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 32:35: “I took guitar lessons with a great teacher and worked on my accent extensively.”

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 43:37: “I call it method energy. Because, you know, you’re on me too, if I’m coming off like a dick.”

Balancing Personal Life and Career (43:38 – 58:00)

The duo discusses the challenges of maintaining personal relationships and a sense of self amidst demanding careers. Timothée talks about his desire for a stable personal life, including the quest for a partner, while Theo reflects on managing privacy and relationships as a public figure.

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 45:48: “I’m gonna go to Louisiana and see some family. Then I might try to take a vacation for a few days.”

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 58:00: “You just gotta be open to that to get a wife to be like, oh, I’m gonna get a wife and be with the wife.”

Reflections on Bob Dylan’s Legacy and the Music Industry (58:01 – 75:54)

Theo and Timothée reflect on Bob Dylan’s influence on music and culture, discussing how the biopic aims to capture Dylan’s raw artistry without sanitizing his complex personality. They explore the impact of Dylan’s work and the responsibility of filmmakers in preserving his legacy accurately.

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 71:20: “Bob always followed his path. And what’s interesting about the movie industry, instead of, like the music industry…”

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 75:54: “But I think you respect what you do.”

Challenges of Living in the Public Eye and Maintaining Authenticity (75:55 – 87:04)

The conversation turns to the pressures of fame and the importance of staying authentic. Timothée discusses how social media and public scrutiny impact celebrities today, while Theo shares his thoughts on protecting personal energy and maintaining genuine relationships.

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 75:52: “I think you respect what you do.”

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 76:03: “But I want to put my best foot forward. You got to give back to the industry that gave to you.”

Lighthearted Moments and Closing Thoughts (87:05 – End)

As the episode nears its end, Theo and Timothée engage in playful banter, discussing humorous scenarios and future projects. They congratulate each other on their respective works and express mutual admiration for each other's dedication to their craft.

Notable Quote:

Theo Von at 86:56: “It’s gonna be in theaters on Christmas day. A complete unknown. Super proud of this man.”

Notable Quote:

Timothée Chalamet at 87:05: “Thanks for all the neat acting, man. Thanks for the movie about the draw, about the young man struggling with drugs.”

Conclusion

Episode E551 of "This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von" provides a comprehensive and engaging conversation between Theo and Timothée Chalamet. They navigate through personal anecdotes, professional insights, and thoughtful reflections on legacy and authenticity. Timothée’s upcoming biopic on Bob Dylan serves as a central theme, showcasing his commitment to portraying complex characters with depth and respect. Listeners gain valuable perspectives on the intersection of personal life and demanding careers, the nuances of method acting, and the enduring impact of cultural icons like Bob Dylan.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

Timothée Chalamet at 02:17: “You can’t cheat on your wife there.”
Theo Von at 04:24: “Nashville reminded me of Austin a little bit. Sort of. Yeah. But yeah.”
Theo Von at 05:11: “Their soccer team was ranked in the top 25 the past few years.”
Timothée Chalamet at 17:43: “The film’s taken from Elijah Wald’s 'Dylan Goes Electric,' a book that came out in 2015…”
Theo Von at 31:42: “This movie honors Bob Dylan without making it like Hollywood’s watered-down version.”
Timothée Chalamet at 24:03: “Maybe a wife this year.”
Timothée Chalamet at 75:52: “I think you respect what you do.”
Timothée Chalamet at 87:05: “Thanks for all the neat acting, man. Thanks for the movie about the draw…”

This detailed summary captures the essence of the conversation, highlighting key topics, notable quotes, and the natural flow between Theo Von and Timothée Chalamet, making it accessible and informative for those who haven’t listened to the episode.

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[00:01]
Theo Von
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[00:30]
Timothée Chalamet
I have some new tour dates to let you know about. I'll be in East Lansing. I'll be in Toledo, Ohio. Rama, Ontario. In The Canada, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Eugene, Oregon. Kennewick, Washington, Seattle, Washington Victoria, B.C. in the Canada, College Station, Texas Belton, Texas San Antonio, Durant, Amarillo, Oxford, Mississippi. How did hide? Fayetteville, Arkansas Tuscaloosa, Alabama rolled and Tallahassee, Florida Rosemont, Illinois Winnipeg and Calgary in the Canada. Get all your tickets@theovon.com t o u r and thank you so much for your support. Today's guest is one of the biggest young acting person people in the world. Acting humans. You've seen him in Dune, Willy Wonka, a beautiful boy. And now his new movie, a Complete Unknown where he plays Bob Dylan in theaters Christmas Day. You can check it out. I had a great time getting to know him. He's an enthralling dang human. Today's guest is Timothy Chalamet.
[02:02]
Theo Von
We were just in Nashville.
[02:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Let's start there. We good, Zach?
[02:05]
Theo Von
Yeah. Cool beans.
[02:08]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw you were just in Nashville.
[02:10]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[02:11]
Timothée Chalamet
Had you been there before?
[02:11]
Theo Von
Yeah, once, kind of exploring. I was doing a movie called Bones and all, trying to do research.
[02:16]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh yeah, my producer's favorite.
[02:17]
Theo Von
No way.
[02:18]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I haven't seen. Yep, that guy Zach is his name and he loves it.
[02:21]
Theo Von
Yeah, he really loves no Way. So I wandered there and this time got a better sense of it. But it's a great city, huh?
[02:28]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, it's a good place. It's like a little city. It's like a little city. Kind of like a fancy little city. It's almost like the JonBenet of cities. Kind of like, you know, look at this outfit. Kind of, you know, but dangerous at the same. But it has like, kind of like an element of like mystery, kind of. That's kind of a weird example.
[02:47]
Theo Von
No, but you're not. Are you from there?
[02:49]
Timothée Chalamet
No, I'm from Louisiana, but okay. But Nashville, here's what it is. It's safe, it's nice, people are friendly. You can't cheat on your wife there. So it's not because the city's too small. Too small.
[02:59]
Theo Von
Okay.
[03:00]
Timothée Chalamet
You couldn't take your wife or spouse or significant other. You couldn't even. Yeah. Like. And you couldn't take them to dinner or something and not see somebody that would know.
[03:09]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[03:10]
Timothée Chalamet
One of you or them. So It's.
[03:11]
Theo Von
There's like 14 people.
[03:12]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, it's. It. Well, there's just. There's enough people, but there's a. It's a. The South's a little gossipy.
[03:16]
Theo Von
Uhuh. Okay.
[03:17]
Timothée Chalamet
So there's a lot of like. It's not a really an adultery city. It's not a city that's. Adultery is not like a trademark of the city probably, is it?
[03:24]
Theo Von
How is it different from New Orleans?
[03:25]
Timothée Chalamet
New Orleans is a little bit more dangerous, I think. You know, and better. Probably better food, to be honest.
[03:31]
Theo Von
Okay.
[03:32]
Timothée Chalamet
I think you have to have crime to have good food. That's kind of how I feel.
[03:36]
Theo Von
That's. I've never heard the mo.
[03:37]
Timothée Chalamet
Really?
[03:37]
Theo Von
Yeah. That's interesting. You ever had. You ever had that, that yakum New Orleans?
[03:43]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. Yakum, is it. It's not drugs, is it?
[03:46]
Theo Von
No, no, no.
[03:46]
Timothée Chalamet
Okay. Cause I've had yakum. I haven't had. I haven't had the edible version. No. Oh, this thing?
[03:53]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
[03:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, this Vietnamese food.
[03:56]
Theo Von
I don't think so. I was watching Top 5, like, Top 5 New Orleans street foods.
[04:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Yakum, homie.
[04:03]
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah. Wow, that's a deep cut right there.
[04:06]
Timothée Chalamet
It is a very deep cut. I thought it came in a small baggie. Yeah. I haven't had this, bro. I have not had this. But you know, New Orleans has one of the largest Vietnamese populations.
[04:15]
Theo Von
Really? In the country. I did not know that. I've never been to nola.
[04:17]
Timothée Chalamet
I think so.
[04:18]
Theo Von
You haven't Never?
[04:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, man.
[04:19]
Theo Von
A lot of stuff shoots there for some reason. I just haven't. Haven't been there before. Yeah.
[04:24]
Timothée Chalamet
It's mythical.
[04:25]
Theo Von
You know, Nashville reminded me of Austin a little bit. You know, 6th Street.
[04:28]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[04:28]
Theo Von
Promenade a little bit.
[04:29]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[04:30]
Theo Von
Sort of. Yeah. But yeah.
[04:31]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. That Broadway. That area. That area is really interesting down there. What else about Nashville that I really like to?
[04:37]
Theo Von
The soccer games ever. Nashville sc.
[04:39]
Timothée Chalamet
I haven't been to that. I go to watch Lipscomb College. They play soccer there. What, at Lipscomb College?
[04:44]
Theo Von
No way.
[04:45]
Timothée Chalamet
It's a college and they have soccer and so I'll go watch some of their games.
[04:49]
Theo Von
What's their student body population?
[04:50]
Timothée Chalamet
It's a good question. Pull it up. Lipscomb College. Let's see, it's one of those colleges that right next to it has the high school also, and then the children's school or whatever.
[04:59]
Theo Von
So it's like you can go there from K to senior year of college.
[05:02]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, you could go from. From like K to 44,800 students. Okay. But their soccer team was ranked. Has been ranked in the top 25 the past few years.
[05:11]
Theo Von
So you love, like, your diehard, you know, season ticket holder. You're there all the time.
[05:17]
Timothée Chalamet
No, sometimes I'll text my neighbor who's the coach. You're like, hey, you might have popped by and you're.
[05:20]
Theo Von
And they're cool.
[05:21]
Timothée Chalamet
And he'll be on the field. He'll be like, yeah, sure, pull up.
[05:23]
Theo Von
Do you get, like, the McConaughey UT pass? You can go wherever you want.
[05:26]
Timothée Chalamet
It's. There's not a lot of bleachers, so it's pretty.
[05:28]
Theo Von
So you're basically on the field all the time.
[05:30]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[05:31]
Theo Von
I was amazed. I was at that. That UT Georgia game. McConaughey gets full.
[05:33]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, you went to that?
[05:34]
Theo Von
He gets full license.
[05:35]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[05:36]
Theo Von
He could do whatever he wants. Because I already had a field pass. I thought I was pretty, you know, high level in some way. He's like, with the coach. He's calling plays, he's coaching.
[05:45]
Timothée Chalamet
He's taping a guy up.
[05:47]
Theo Von
He's taping a guy up.
[05:47]
Timothée Chalamet
He's like, you're going to be all right.
[05:49]
Theo Von
He's living the experience. You know, I got a buddy who's on the Nashville soccer team. His name's Alex Mule.
[05:53]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, really? Let's pull him up. Let's give him some shine, because I need to go watch him. You think if I hit him up, he would invite me to a game?
[05:58]
Theo Von
Absolutely. And the games are often sold out. You know, I grew up with this guy, Alex Mule. Yeah. But he was always M U, Y, L. That's the bane of his life, man.
[06:09]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. People that can't spell Mule. Yeah.
[06:11]
Theo Von
This is amazing, man. I wish. This is, like. This is what AI is going to be in 20 years. Just say it and it pops up.
[06:16]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh. As we're talking, the computer follows.
[06:18]
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[06:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Have you ever thought about that?
[06:21]
Theo Von
Have you tried. Do you use the VR, the Vision.
[06:25]
Timothée Chalamet
Oculus, that kind of thing?
[06:26]
Theo Von
No, no, they're the Oculus 2, I guess, but the AirPod.
[06:28]
Timothée Chalamet
What do you mean, like blue blockers or something? Probably Vision Pro. What is it?
[06:33]
Theo Von
The apple helmet.
[06:34]
Timothée Chalamet
But tell me about Mule. I just want to.
[06:36]
Theo Von
Yeah, my bad.
[06:36]
Timothée Chalamet
So you played Ball with him growing up.
[06:38]
Theo Von
I played ball with him growing up, and he was just gifted, you know, it's tough. You know, you could play like. It's like that last dance, Chicago Bulls documentary. Some of those guys will be partying all night, and then they'll. Then they'll drop. Like Dennis Rodman. He'll drop 40. You know, it's like, I could work my ass off. And if you don't have the gift of physical talent, of athleticism, you're cooked.
[06:55]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. You're done, dude. Yes. Some people got that. Damn. You got a damn foot Mozart out there. I don't have that.
[07:00]
Theo Von
Yeah. Alex Mule is a foot Mozart.
[07:02]
Timothée Chalamet
Really?
[07:02]
Theo Von
Yes. There. Absolutely.
[07:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. I gotta go check him out, man. I haven't been to see a game. It's unfortunate. I did get to go see Vanderbilt, which is the college that's. That's the SEC college that's actually in Nashville.
[07:14]
Theo Von
That's what I visited. Yeah, I was at Vanderbilt.
[07:15]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah. I saw a video of you out there.
[07:18]
Theo Von
You know, I never had that American college experience. You know, I went to Columbia for a second. I went to nyu, so I'm jealous of that. But Vanderbilt respected Vanderbilt. It didn't feel like UT or. It didn't feel like I had a huge campus or a huge.
[07:30]
Timothée Chalamet
No, it's a smaller. It's a smaller energy.
[07:31]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[07:32]
Timothée Chalamet
But we went to one game this year. They played Alabama, and they beat. They upset at Alabama, so that was huge. It was crazy.
[07:38]
Theo Von
Usually their football program's not that good, right?
[07:39]
Timothée Chalamet
It's not.
[07:40]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[07:40]
Timothée Chalamet
And they know that.
[07:41]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
[07:41]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. We're not. Tell a secret.
[07:43]
Theo Von
No, no. You know, you got to keep keeping their place.
[07:45]
Timothée Chalamet
But that was the game. They won. And look, they didn't even. It was like all these lawyers and attorneys, like, tearing down the goalposts. They even had. They had a. There we are. After the game. We actually. We.
[07:54]
Theo Von
Is it a big law program?
[07:56]
Timothée Chalamet
Carl Lee is their coach, and he's an awesome guy. I mean, he's a class act.
[08:01]
Theo Von
He just gets smoked.
[08:01]
Timothée Chalamet
We got to. Yeah.
[08:02]
Theo Von
There you are. What are you doing on the field? What are you doing on the field?
[08:08]
Timothée Chalamet
You almost.
[08:08]
Theo Von
You almost ran that person over. That's amazing.
[08:11]
Timothée Chalamet
Put on a helmet, girl. That was a girl. That should not have been.
[08:14]
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah. You almost. You almost ran her over. Yeah.
[08:16]
Timothée Chalamet
She shouldn't be playing wide out. You know, it's just different. But no, it's a. What's it like there? It's. Oh, after the game. So they had, like, engineers, like, how should we take this down? And then there's just drunk kids, like, serious rip it down.
[08:29]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[08:29]
Timothée Chalamet
And then they carried it down Broadway, which is like the street you were talking about, the goalpost. Because they'd never had it.
[08:34]
Theo Von
Those kids had never broken a law in their life.
[08:36]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. They even tried to valet park the goal post at, like, a restaurant. Yeah.
[08:39]
Theo Von
Is it a fancy. Like an expensive, fancy type school?
[08:42]
Timothée Chalamet
I mean, I don't think it's a lot of. It's a lot of kids that have never played probably dice in an alley. I would say that. So I would say it's, you know, probably pretty decent.
[08:51]
Theo Von
You know, man, that's pretty crazy, huh?
[08:53]
Timothée Chalamet
But it's a. It is a really cool. It's a cool program, man.
[08:56]
Theo Von
I feel like I could see three stadiums from my hotel. I feel like I could see the Vanderbilt one, Tennessee Titans one, and Nissan Stadium. Shout out. Nissan.
[09:03]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[09:03]
Theo Von
Is Nissan a big Tennessee car manufacturer?
[09:05]
Timothée Chalamet
That's a good question. I don't think so. It sounds. Nissan.
[09:10]
Theo Von
It's Japan. Japanese. Japanese. Huh?
[09:12]
Timothée Chalamet
Huh? Dude. Thanks for coming in, Timothy. I appreciate it, man.
[09:17]
Theo Von
Thank you. You know, I. Not with the shameless plug, but I got this movie, a complete unknown, coming on Christmas Day. Yeah. Did you actually see it?
[09:26]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[09:26]
Theo Von
Fantastic, man. So I'm excited that we can actually talk about it. And I was very much in the time period of the movie the whole time, trying to stay without being a dick, you know, within the bounds of the character. But somebody in the hair, makeup, trailer, at the end of the day, they would play this podcast, you know, how I discovered it. And particularly the episodes of the Garbage man and sort of real life episodes. The Lunch lady, the coroner.
[09:47]
Timothée Chalamet
Wayne. Yeah, Wayne the Garbage Man. He's doing good.
[09:50]
Theo Von
Those were. Those are like awesome episodes, you know, sort of like worldviews that I wouldn't get otherwise, you know?
[09:56]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[09:57]
Theo Von
And you're from New York, right? I'm from New York. So Garbage man, he totally recontextualized that for me, bro.
[10:02]
Timothée Chalamet
He did a great job. Because they used to have.
[10:04]
Theo Von
They used to have to hate them, you know?
[10:06]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[10:07]
Theo Von
Yeah. Because you think they're taking their time.
[10:09]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[10:11]
Theo Von
And I realized how tough that job is. I mean, throwing. Throwing dogs in the back of it. I mean, that story is.
[10:16]
Timothée Chalamet
Do you remember that there's a lot of. Yeah, A lot of. A lot of. Yeah. Missing.
[10:20]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[10:21]
Timothée Chalamet
Formerly living things started to disappear in.
[10:24]
Theo Von
The back of a. Yeah. Back in the.
[10:26]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, they used to have incinerators in the buildings. That's what Was crazy.
[10:29]
Theo Von
Right, right.
[10:30]
Timothée Chalamet
So that the people would put their trash, it would hit the incinerator and then they would just have. I mean, this is like six or seven years ago, I think. But they would just have soot in barrels, you know, or in cans on the side of the street. And then they started getting bags. But he said, yeah, there's been times where a lot of things have shown up, but thank you, man, for checking it out.
[10:46]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[10:47]
Timothée Chalamet
For just hearing it on accident.
[10:48]
Theo Von
No, hearing on accident. Loving it. And I'm so happy you saw this movie. And this is like, you know, I hope this isn't like a shameless self plug, but no, it's not at all.
[10:57]
Timothée Chalamet
We're happy that you're here. And I appreciate it.
[10:58]
Theo Von
Yeah, I appreciate it.
[10:59]
Timothée Chalamet
And you get to do a biopic or. Biopic. How do I say it?
[11:02]
Theo Von
I still don't know, man. Biopic sounds like a medical procedure.
[11:05]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[11:06]
Theo Von
You know, that sounds like someone, you know, is inspecting your lungs to see if you played the role the right way. I like biopic. Biopic sounds fancier.
[11:14]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, biopic does sound fancier. I think. That true?
[11:16]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[11:16]
Timothée Chalamet
Biopic was it like. So let me think about a question like that. Just so people know. This is about a four or five year period in biopic.
[11:24]
Theo Von
This is a period. Yeah, four or five year period in the early Bob Dylan's life. And I'm sure a lot of people listening to your program are already fans of Bob Dylan's, but I'm sure a lot aren't because to my generation, you know.
[11:34]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, people. Some people don't know.
[11:35]
Theo Von
Some don't know. And he's really one of the most fantastic American artists of all time and has influenced our culture in so many deep ways. And it's just, you know, I grew up on Kid Cudi and hip hop and that was really my, you know, my passion. And then somewhere in my 20s, because this movie I was working on, I became obsessed with this man, Bob Dylan, who's absolutely. I could just speak about him endlessly and, you know, I would love if people saw this movie and even if they got a passing interest, discover the world of Bob Dylan. I feel like we get to be a bridge or a gateway to this, to this guy. And I hope this isn't one of your episodes where you got like someone, you know, like one of the ones people skip because it's like a person plugging. So, you know what I'm saying? Like a. I don't want to use that word, celebrity, but like, you know, because my favorite episodes. Yours are.
[12:23]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, like a fancy. Like a fancier person, hypothetically.
[12:26]
Theo Von
No, I don't mean like that, but just like, I like. Like I said, I like the ones that.
[12:29]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, we don't have, like, a lot of celebrities on.
[12:31]
Theo Von
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I never really use that word, but.
[12:33]
Timothée Chalamet
No, that's okay. Yeah, no, no, I don't think so. Look, man, I think I feel like.
[12:37]
Theo Von
This part of the job is that, though, because when I'm working, I'm really very much in it. You know what I mean? And then here. Anyway.
[12:43]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. Actors get kind of a weird rap, though, because then they also have to be celebrities in some way.
[12:48]
Theo Von
Yeah, in some way. And if you want to get your movie out, you. There's. There's only a limit of how pretentious in some way. You know, private. Whatever. You know, I want. I want this. Especially this movie. I believe in this movie, and I believe in this man. He's a tremendous artist. So I want to. I want to, you know, get it out there.
[13:09]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, no, I don't think that's, man. I think that, like, you did the movie with the young man with drug addiction, with Steve Carell.
[13:16]
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. Beautiful boy.
[13:17]
Timothée Chalamet
Which was awesome.
[13:18]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah. Struggle. Yeah, I know you struggle with that a little bit. Yeah.
[13:21]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, man. And so many people have, and it's like. So I don't think there's any doubt in people's mind about your ability to be a bridge between, whether it be a store, you know, a story or a person to a new generation or to new listeners or people kind of vibing.
[13:44]
Theo Von
And I appreciate you bringing a beautiful boy, and I feel like you're doing the exact same thing. Not to just blow smoke up each other's ass, but I feel like when you.
[13:49]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, we're a couple of naughty Native Americans right here.
[13:52]
Theo Von
Come on.
[13:52]
Timothée Chalamet
Come on.
[13:52]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[13:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[13:54]
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. If you're not here, if you're listening to this and not watching this, that we're fully the bottom half of our bodies.
[13:59]
Timothée Chalamet
We're out here boofing. It's getting spicy out here with that. Okay, I don't either.
[14:03]
Theo Von
I don't even know what that means.
[14:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Take that out.
[14:04]
Theo Von
But. No, no but. But. Because I know you speak on it, too, and you probably empower people, you know, that otherwise would be doing some naughty stuff.
[14:14]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, people want to hear us. People want to see it. People want to see, like, a little bit of a journey that they can relate to or hear about.
[14:19]
Theo Von
Yeah, exactly.
[14:20]
Timothée Chalamet
What. So about the Character, like, so Bob Dylan has, like, such a famous. Because. Yeah. A lot of younger generation might not know about him, you know.
[14:27]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[14:27]
Timothée Chalamet
And a lot of. He has such, like, a hand.
[14:33]
Theo Von
That's a good Bob Dylan, man.
[14:34]
Timothée Chalamet
Was it?
[14:35]
Theo Von
Yeah, that was good.
[14:35]
Timothée Chalamet
How did you do when you first decided? Because you had to practice it in your room or something like. Tell me about the first.
[14:41]
Theo Von
That was super gradual. Can't do it with people that are fans, because people that are fans of Bob Dylan will go. They'll all tell you got it wrong. That's the trouble with playing someone so famous and beloved. Everyone's got an opinion about him.
[14:50]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[14:50]
Theo Von
So you gotta put the blinders on and just kind of do it around people that, you know. Look, man, I'm usually not that prick actor who's, like, obliging his friends or whatever to listen to the character he's working on, but this is the one time I did that.
[15:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, I think you have to do that because. Yeah. You don't want to get out there and do a bad job of it.
[15:08]
Theo Von
Exactly. Man. This would have been blasphemous. I would have gotten killed. I mean, I could still get killed.
[15:14]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[15:14]
Theo Von
But now it seems like, you know, getting a little bit of. Get a little bit of love, you know what I'm saying?
[15:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Hey, snipers. Down. Lay down, snipers. Yeah, but was there a moment where you tried that? Where you actually tried it?
[15:26]
Theo Von
Yes, very gradually. I had to. There's a great dialect coach named Tim Monic. You know, you can work with people that are, like, experts in this field and they'll tell you.
[15:34]
Timothée Chalamet
Really?
[15:34]
Theo Von
Yeah. How to go about it. This man, Tim Monic, invented dialect coaching. He came up with it.
[15:38]
Timothée Chalamet
Tim Monic, let's see. I am gander.
[15:41]
Theo Von
M, O, N, I, C, H. He's worked with Leonardo DiCaprio. He's worked with everyone, you know.
[15:45]
Timothée Chalamet
So he's a famous dialect coach, and.
[15:48]
Theo Von
I've never looked him up before.
[15:50]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, Tim Monic. There he is right there. Okay. Is that the man?
[15:53]
Theo Von
Yeah, there. There I am with him. I got in trouble anyway.
[15:57]
Timothée Chalamet
What happened to you?
[15:57]
Theo Von
I got in trouble because the strike had just hit and I was just hanging out with him, and I didn't really get in trouble. People. People thought I was people. I thought I was a scab and I was working with them. Oh, but he's crossing lisp lines or whatever. You're right, dude. You're right, you're right. That's the only union where you'd be crossing the picket line by working on your tongue is a real thing, dude.
[16:22]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh yeah, really scab.
[16:24]
Theo Von
Stop working on the accent.
[16:25]
Timothée Chalamet
How dare you learn Spanish?
[16:26]
Theo Von
Yeah, exactly. Wow, man. Next time I'll call you. Because actually when you put it like that, it's like, what are you supposed to do? You know, like. And I wasn't working, I was hanging out, you know, we went to a shitty. Super shitty. It's bleak, man. Like the way Bob Dylan, when he came up, there was like all these cafes in downtown New York and the music. And now I went. I was trying to find the folk scene in modern day Manhattan. It was brutal.
[16:48]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, I think Manhattan probably maybe like in this. Somewhere in the Village. Probably right?
[16:52]
Theo Von
Yeah, but it was brutal. I mean, I went to Cafe Wow where Bob Dylan came up and it's just like Aerosmith covers now. So some guy, you're like, oh, man. Yeah, this is not how it was.
[17:04]
Timothée Chalamet
It's just. It has like a small air Pastali in the back kind of like. Exactly.
[17:07]
Theo Von
Yeah, exactly.
[17:09]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. That's kind of a bummer. Did you have to meet Bob to get into this?
[17:12]
Theo Von
I never got the chance to meet him.
[17:13]
Timothée Chalamet
Not yet at all.
[17:14]
Theo Von
Oh, he's super reclusive. Yeah, he's elusive.
[17:16]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah. Reclusive.
[17:17]
Theo Von
Yeah, we. I don't know if I'll ever see the movie. Yeah, he's. He did this ex post. I've been taught to say it's not tweet anymore, I guess fucking expostulated, but that he did it like three days ago, you know, and that was more than he.
[17:31]
Timothée Chalamet
There's a movie about me opening soon called A Complete Unknown. Timothee Chalamet is starring in the lead role. Timmy's a brilliant. Timmy is a brilliant actor. I kind of respect it though. Nice honoring your youth.
[17:44]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Timmy's my 12 year old expression dude.
[17:48]
Timothée Chalamet
Timmy's a brilliant actor. So I'm sure he's going to be a completely believable as me or younger me or some other me. The film's taken from Elijah Wald's Dylan Goes Electric, a book that came out in 2015. It's a fantastic retelling of events from the early 60s that led up to the fiasco at Newport. After you've seen the movie, read the book. Oh, that's nice.
[18:06]
Theo Von
Super sweet. And then.
[18:08]
Timothée Chalamet
So do you even talk to him on the phone or anything yet?
[18:09]
Theo Von
No, nothing. I never got the chance to talk to him. Yeah, I like that you point out the Timmy. I tried, you know, when I was 19, 20, I was, you know, I was Evolving into Timothy.
[18:18]
Timothée Chalamet
Shed some letters.
[18:19]
Theo Von
Exactly. Add some letters. Add some letters from Timmy to Timothy.
[18:22]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. I thought you were going Tim. Sorry.
[18:24]
Theo Von
Tim would be.
[18:24]
Timothée Chalamet
You and Timothy, I get.
[18:26]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, Tim.
[18:26]
Timothée Chalamet
Like I said, Timmy to Timothy.
[18:28]
Theo Von
40S, 50s, couple ex wives.
[18:29]
Timothée Chalamet
Then you go, Tim.
[18:30]
Theo Von
Then you go Tim. You know. You know, I'm like. You know, like, mowing my lawn all day.
[18:37]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, Tim, exactly. Missed a spot.
[18:39]
Theo Von
Missed a spot.
[18:41]
Timothée Chalamet
You know, like, there's a bird's nest there. Calm down.
[18:43]
Theo Von
You know, sort of a disgruntled expression on my face watching my kids. Sports games.
[18:47]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[18:48]
Theo Von
Because they're not playing to the level that I was.
[18:50]
Timothée Chalamet
Swim meet, too. Swim meets. The worst. Because you can't even talk to the person next to you because it echoes so much on the roof.
[18:55]
Theo Von
I've never been to a swimmeat in my life.
[18:57]
Timothée Chalamet
Even if you whisper a little that people hear.
[18:59]
Theo Von
Yes.
[19:00]
Timothée Chalamet
Yes.
[19:00]
Theo Von
It travels.
[19:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, you cannot gossip.
[19:02]
Theo Von
How many swim meets you go to? Lipscomb College swim meets.
[19:04]
Timothée Chalamet
I mean, I don't go to the. I've been. Yeah, I bet it.
[19:06]
Theo Von
Yeah. Be careful, dude.
[19:07]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I do. You're right. And it is. And I definitely watch from my car with binoculars, so it's not too creepy.
[19:12]
Theo Von
So it's normal. It's totally normal. You've been. So the fact you've been doing it since your early 20s means that, you know.
[19:17]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, it's cool. What kind of grandfather.
[19:18]
Theo Von
Your grandfather.
[19:19]
Timothée Chalamet
That guy's not a pedophile. He's. He's an artist.
[19:22]
Theo Von
He's an artist. And. And this show happened, you know, the show sprouted in this period of you doing that. So how can you fault the process? The proof of the pudding.
[19:30]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. The guy. How do you expect him not to rehearse his own life? But yeah. Yeah, you can't. That's the thing. You just can't gossip at a swim meet, man.
[19:38]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[19:38]
Timothée Chalamet
What are we talking about?
[19:40]
Theo Von
I don't know. I've never been to a swim meet. You know, that's a very non. You know, like, there's four pools in New York City.
[19:45]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah.
[19:45]
Theo Von
You know what I mean? Yeah. We don't have swim meets, but we have.
[19:49]
Timothée Chalamet
What do you guys play dice in.
[19:50]
Theo Von
The alleys, like you were saying before? No, I'm kidding. But, you know, I was gonna say the other day, like, my high school, they wouldn't let us out for lunch. Would they let you out for lunch or. No.
[19:57]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah.
[19:58]
Theo Von
You could do whatever you wanted at lunch. They didn't let us out. I feel like my skin tone from when I went into high school. By the time I got out, I looked sickly. I haven't recovered.
[20:05]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, it got very. You got kind of like. Yeah, very anemic. Yep, Anemic, I'm sure. What else is it called? Kind of Boo Radley esque.
[20:12]
Theo Von
Exactly, exactly. Exactly. You know.
[20:15]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. Because they should give you at least an hour in the sun. They give it to inmates.
[20:19]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[20:19]
Timothée Chalamet
And just because I'm learning social studies. I don't get it.
[20:21]
Theo Von
I don't get it. Exactly. And then I'd be in the basement doing just acting all day because I'm learning fucking Voltaire.
[20:25]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't get 40 minutes.
[20:27]
Theo Von
40 minutes in the sun.
[20:28]
Timothée Chalamet
Raisin got in the sun. Oh, hey, I don't.
[20:30]
Theo Von
Hey, that's a good place right there, man. Denzel Washington.
[20:33]
Timothée Chalamet
I will accept that. I will accept Washington. Thank you.
[20:36]
Theo Von
I heard you're a big play guy.
[20:39]
Timothée Chalamet
Really?
[20:39]
Theo Von
No.
[20:40]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, thanks. I was like, God, I don't want that going around.
[20:43]
Theo Von
Hey, man, that would. Listen. That's the subversive. No one would. No one would expect it.
[20:47]
Timothée Chalamet
That's. That's very low key, dude.
[20:50]
Theo Von
Is there a theater in Nashville? Yeah, gotta be.
[20:52]
Timothée Chalamet
There is a theater program. That's a good question. I grew up in Louisiana. We didn't. We had some theater. We just did, like.
[20:57]
Theo Von
Did you ever do theater growing up?
[20:58]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I did. I did. Well, it was just called drama club or whatever, and it was a lot of people who was. It was a lot of people, I think, that were. Wanted to be actors and then a lot of people that just were kind of like.
[21:07]
Theo Von
The outsiders.
[21:07]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, outsiders.
[21:08]
Theo Von
I went to the high school. The opposite. The drama kids were the.
[21:11]
Timothée Chalamet
Or the cool kids.
[21:11]
Theo Von
Yeah. And the basketball kids were like. There's like four of them, bro.
[21:15]
Timothée Chalamet
That's got to be interesting. Because a lot of people don't get that opportunity.
[21:18]
Theo Von
No. It skewed my perception of the real world because then I got to Columbia and I was like, oh, shit. The value system is totally different, you know, but actually in a serious way, kind of motivated me to go pursue my acting even harder. But did you ever think about acting?
[21:29]
Timothée Chalamet
Or you're like, what's the exchange rate on this Hamlet scene?
[21:32]
Theo Von
Exactly, Exactly. Exactly.
[21:35]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I did just some stuff at school, but I would always mess it up. Like, we did like, Sherlock Holmes or something. And I was like, Watson or whatever. His buddy or whatever. It's like his. His man crush. Whatever. And our. Our guy was very, like, progressive. So he tried to make it there to be like this small, like, Lover scene or. Or just like some ambiance between Sherlock and Watts anymore.
[21:54]
Theo Von
You didn't go for it?
[21:55]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't know if I went for it or not. I was like, 13, go out there, man.
[21:58]
Theo Von
You gotta be bold. You gotta be bowl. You would have earned the respect of all your classmates. Or actually, I don't know where you're.
[22:02]
Timothée Chalamet
From, maybe gone either way, but. But yeah, there was this definitely kind of romantic where they're looking for the clues and they're kind of finding each other. That's what the guy said. And I was like, this seems, like insane, but you didn't do it. I. I tried my best, but then I remember I got. The first night I got out there on stage, I took on this Latino accent for some reason.
[22:21]
Theo Von
That's a strong choice, man. It's all about.
[22:22]
Timothée Chalamet
Nobody knew it was coming.
[22:24]
Theo Von
Perfect.
[22:24]
Timothée Chalamet
And I was like, what's up, Holmes? You know? And then. So, yeah, that was just. And that's when I realized I. It was tough for me to be in some ensemble things. I just wanted to be by myself, you know, like that kind of thing.
[22:35]
Theo Von
You found this. I mean, this. Right?
[22:37]
Timothée Chalamet
Yes. Would you do.
[22:38]
Theo Von
Would you do a movie if it came. Came your way?
[22:41]
Timothée Chalamet
If I've got to make it.
[22:43]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[22:43]
Timothée Chalamet
Myself.
[22:43]
Theo Von
Okay. All right. You went. You don't want to be slotted into something.
[22:46]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't think so. I just am super protective about myself for some reason, which may seem kind of weird. I don't. For some reason.
[22:51]
Theo Von
For some reason. You had me on.
[22:56]
Timothée Chalamet
Good choice, dude.
[22:57]
Theo Von
Yeah. Who.
[22:58]
Timothée Chalamet
So in New York, when you were a kid, like, who's your best friend?
[23:01]
Theo Von
Best friend. Growing up. Nobody's always pursuing acting, dude. I was born, I was bred at Warner Brothers Studios in a little embryo fluid.
[23:10]
Timothée Chalamet
It was just like that.
[23:11]
Theo Von
Yeah. Nah, man. You know, probably Brett Goldstein, you know.
[23:15]
Timothée Chalamet
A kid in your building or something.
[23:17]
Theo Von
No, he was a kid on the Upper west side, and my older sister was friends with his older sister Brenna, and just. I think they still live there. Greg and Bess, those are his parents. And Brett, you know, that was my whole friend group. Then they all. My whole friend group went to this school called computer school. And then I went to school called Booker T. Washington. So I lost my. I lost my friend group there, but.
[23:36]
Timothée Chalamet
And you have a roommate now.
[23:38]
Theo Von
No.
[23:38]
Timothée Chalamet
You don't.
[23:39]
Theo Von
Thank God, man. That's like more than. Sorry. No, I mean, but fucking. That's more than anything. That's what Jesl Nick says on Netflix. He says you really made it when you don't have a roommate anymore.
[23:47]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah.
[23:48]
Theo Von
Oh, in New York and life, you know.
[23:50]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[23:51]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[23:51]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, yeah, I think. Well, especially in New York because it's so expensive. In other places, some people get a roommate because they just get maybe lonesome or whatever.
[23:59]
Theo Von
Do you. Do you ever made.
[24:00]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't have a roommate. You know, I would like to get one or I'd like to get a wife maybe this year.
[24:03]
Theo Von
Where.
[24:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Where next year?
[24:05]
Theo Von
How do you go?
[24:05]
Timothée Chalamet
2020 wife. That's what I'm calling it.
[24:07]
Theo Von
How do you go about that?
[24:09]
Timothée Chalamet
I think getting out there and meeting people.
[24:11]
Theo Von
Do you have friends that you trust? That you would trust? Like to set you up some, but.
[24:16]
Timothée Chalamet
Sometimes you're shocked at who they'll set you up with.
[24:18]
Theo Von
Really? Like, you're insulted.
[24:19]
Timothée Chalamet
I mean, you're just like, well, we must think that you think differently of me.
[24:24]
Theo Von
How so? Give me an example.
[24:25]
Timothée Chalamet
Just like, no names, but just somebody put me all with like a, you know, just a. A woman head. Like, you know, any way I say this, I lose here.
[24:35]
Theo Von
Okay, all right, all right. Enough.
[24:37]
Timothée Chalamet
Just people that there was no.
[24:39]
Theo Von
How do you do this format? Like, you're never nervous that people are going to watch that you're. That you're talking about.
[24:44]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, but I just make sure that I just try and don't say anything that would be really mean about somebody. And right there it could have got weird.
[24:50]
Theo Von
Right. And you send. You'll send scary people after people, you know.
[24:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, well, I mean, we'll. Things.
[24:55]
Theo Von
You'll send guys in suits outside people's house, make sure they don't.
[24:57]
Timothée Chalamet
There's a podcast fear out there that things, you know, get handled or whatever. I don't want to use that term.
[25:02]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, terrifying.
[25:04]
Timothée Chalamet
It's not a. There's no lawyers involved. I'll say.
[25:06]
Theo Von
Right. You're just winging it.
[25:07]
Timothée Chalamet
The Lord is our lawyer. That's people's motto.
[25:10]
Theo Von
Right, right, right, right.
[25:11]
Timothée Chalamet
So.
[25:11]
Theo Von
Right. Right.
[25:12]
Timothée Chalamet
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[30:29]
Theo Von
Yeah, man. Yes and no. You know, because I've become such a fan of his that it's not like I feel like I'm a blemish on the legacy, but I.
[30:37]
Timothée Chalamet
No, not at all. That's not what I mean. No, I know people are gonna think when they, yeah, some people are gonna think you are, but they're gonna. That when they think of him in the future, your face will come into.
[30:46]
Theo Von
Saying that even if I have like, you know, a healthy amount of self respect, it's never going to come close to who he is. So I like the idea that I could be a bridge. But like I had a buddy that said the Johnny Cash movie, Joaquin Phoenix, who is the same director, walked the line. He said, you know, I actually like Joaquin's versions of Johnny Cash's songs better than Johnny Cash's songs. But I never wanted that. Sincerely. I don't want that to happen here because. And I wanted to protect against it because Bob's got this raw voice.
[31:09]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[31:09]
Theo Von
He's got this like iron voice. And I don't want. I never wanted these songs to be sort of like more gentle than his songs, you know, and had to fight against that because the recordings we made, a lot of them were super. It's hard, man. He was playing on a beat up guitar with shitty recorders. He had a bronchitis in his early 20s. His voice was all fucked up. And I didn't want it to be like watered down, you know? Cause he very purposefully was. He liked Jack Kerouac and Moriarty. He, you know, a lot of the books I read. So he didn't have great hygiene, you know, stuff like that. So I didn't want the movie to be watered down all of a sudden.
[31:42]
Timothée Chalamet
Right, you wanted to honor him as much as you could.
[31:44]
Theo Von
Yeah, exactly.
[31:44]
Timothée Chalamet
But also without being him as much like you.
[31:47]
Theo Von
Yeah. Not through this Hollywood version, basically.
[31:49]
Timothée Chalamet
Right.
[31:49]
Theo Von
Because he's biopics. It's a fine line, man. It's a. And I've never done anything like this. I usually play a role, actually.
[31:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Wonka. You did kind of.
[31:55]
Theo Von
Yeah, Wonka did it. Yeah. And.
[31:57]
Timothée Chalamet
But that's maybe not real.
[31:58]
Theo Von
No, but it's. Yeah, yeah. Thank God.
[31:59]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, don't tell the children.
[32:01]
Theo Von
No, but also, you know, probably have to get psychiatric help. But. But no but. And there's a certain pressure with that Wonka too. People are like very protective of characters they love, you know, they don't want. And there's sort of like a cynicism about Hollywood, you know, about like, why do they keep Reav visiting? The Wonka thing I felt was justified because it's a new story. We weren't doing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. We were doing sort of an origin. And by the way, I don't know if you've seen Wonka, have you?
[32:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. Which one have I seen you? I've seen all of them.
[32:27]
Theo Von
You watched it while you were in the car spying on the. On the list. You had it playing on the audio.
[32:35]
Timothée Chalamet
But if you. First of all, if you've never seen the Wonka movie, you just listen to the audio. That's a little bit.
[32:40]
Theo Von
That's already weird too.
[32:41]
Timothée Chalamet
It's kind of. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting.
[32:42]
Theo Von
They had Stevie Wonder at the movie last night.
[32:44]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, really?
[32:44]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[32:45]
Timothée Chalamet
Interesting bridge right there.
[32:46]
Theo Von
No, but I was. Same thing, man.
[32:47]
Timothée Chalamet
I was like just. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[32:50]
Theo Von
No disrespect, but I was just no.
[32:51]
Timothée Chalamet
The Godfather of surround sound, basically.
[32:54]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[32:55]
Timothée Chalamet
That's what I heard. The premiere was pretty interesting. So last night was your premiere?
[32:59]
Theo Von
It was. Premiere in la, man. It was great, you know.
[33:02]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, dude, thanks for coming the day after your premiere.
[33:04]
Theo Von
Yeah, I apologize, man.
[33:06]
Timothée Chalamet
Were you guys.
[33:07]
Theo Von
We were up late and I basically, I shot this movie, Marty supreme, all the fall. These crazy directors, you know, or crazy director Josh Saft. You ever see Uncut Gems?
[33:15]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah. So good, that director.
[33:16]
Theo Von
So it's kind of that energy, that chaotic thing. So it wasn't like a low energy shoot. This was like 16 hour days for three months. Then I went right into this. So I haven't been like drinking at all. Never. Not that I ever really had a problem with it, but just, you know, because these days and I actually find my mind is so much sharper. I'm amazed I haven't gotten sick through this whole, like last couple of months. But last night I did have a couple of drinks. I'm kind of fried today, man. Yeah, I'm sorry, my voice is a little.
[33:38]
Timothée Chalamet
No, you got to celebrate. Did you have to get up and make a speech? What's it like at something like that?
[33:43]
Theo Von
I. Oh, man, great question. It's like, oh, here we are. Oh, man, I don't do. I don't do the. I call it instant nostalgia.
[33:53]
Timothée Chalamet
You know, I was seeing these pictures like this.
[33:54]
Theo Von
Yeah, Yeah.
[33:55]
Timothée Chalamet
I mean, it's kind of bizarre, isn't it?
[33:57]
Theo Von
It's kind of bizarre, man. This is good because this is. I'll say this, it's a great cast and a great. A great director. So we all have fun. Edward Norton, man. Edward Norton should come on this podcast, man. He's a legend. Absolute legend.
[34:09]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah, he's a super legend. He was in the. He was in.
[34:13]
Theo Von
You ever see Rounders?
[34:14]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[34:14]
Theo Von
You play? Do you play Texas hold him?
[34:16]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I play it sometimes. He's good. And that both of the actresses were great. The ladies in it. Oh, and his wife was in it. What's her name?
[34:25]
Theo Von
Erico. Erico.
[34:27]
Timothée Chalamet
Erico.
[34:27]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[34:28]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. They got a beautiful group of ladies in there. And men too. Yeah.
[34:33]
Theo Von
Look at Boyd Holbrook, man, with the blue suit on. Oh, that's a handsome man.
[34:37]
Timothée Chalamet
Is he real handsome?
[34:38]
Theo Von
Yeah, he's a. He's a stud.
[34:40]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, dude, you're kind of a handsome dude, like a lot of people are.
[34:43]
Theo Von
Man, look at that. People I've seen.
[34:44]
Timothée Chalamet
Calm down, brother.
[34:45]
Theo Von
I'VE seen so many people ape your haircut.
[34:47]
Timothée Chalamet
Really?
[34:47]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[34:48]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, these are. Yeah, there's a lot of freaking thieves out.
[34:50]
Theo Von
How long have you had it?
[34:51]
Timothée Chalamet
This haircut I've had for probably it's a little dicey today. I've had it for probably. Well, I had it as a child.
[34:57]
Theo Von
Oh, no way. So it goes back.
[34:59]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah. And then I try to like, blend in, like whenever I moved to Hollywood and stuff, and it didn't work for me. And so then I tried to blend out.
[35:05]
Theo Von
Oh, so you started in LA before Nashville?
[35:07]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, yeah. I lived out here for 12 years. I was doing stand up comedy here. This is where I started doing stand up comedy.
[35:11]
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, Where? The Comedy Store and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, Comedy Store.
[35:14]
Timothée Chalamet
It was awesome, man. I really enjoyed it.
[35:15]
Theo Von
And a whole like sort of generation of comedians came out that of there then, huh?
[35:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. And that was like. Yeah, all types. They had like, Crystal Leah, Tom Segura.
[35:24]
Theo Von
Is that a bigger, bigger comedy base here than New York, you think?
[35:28]
Timothée Chalamet
That's a good question. You know what's so funny? They're totally different from each other. And some people in one don't even know the people in the other because.
[35:35]
Theo Von
The audience is different. You think?
[35:36]
Timothée Chalamet
Just, just. It's just a total different group of people. Like, you go there and it's almost like it feels like you have to start all over. It's a. It's just a total different. Like you. I'll go into a club there and it feels like a whole different thing. I'm walking into a club for the first time in New York.
[35:48]
Theo Von
You don't think you get the love you get out here?
[35:50]
Timothée Chalamet
I think you, you'll get, you'll get a lot of. You just feel that way. It's not your territory, you know, and you want to give respect to the guys that. That's their grounds that they walk on every day.
[35:59]
Theo Von
Interesting. Interesting.
[36:00]
Timothée Chalamet
Because that's where they live. Like, if somebody came out and was like being real flashy, but they're not in your. In, in your kind of club here, it would be the same way, I think.
[36:09]
Theo Von
Interesting.
[36:09]
Timothée Chalamet
So there's a lot of code of conduct.
[36:10]
Theo Von
Would you ever do Saturday Night Live?
[36:13]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't know, man. You know, it's so funny. I went and saw it recently and it's crazy, right?
[36:18]
Theo Von
It's a crazy setup.
[36:18]
Timothée Chalamet
It is crazy. You did it?
[36:19]
Theo Von
Yeah, I've done it twice.
[36:20]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, you have? Okay.
[36:21]
Theo Von
Super dialed in, right?
[36:22]
Timothée Chalamet
I should have known that. Oh, yeah, dude.
[36:24]
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
[36:24]
Timothée Chalamet
I went with Chris farley's brother. It was the first time that he'd been back to go to SNL since his brother was on there, since he'd went with him. So it's pretty.
[36:32]
Theo Von
What was that like for him?
[36:33]
Timothée Chalamet
He was.
[36:34]
Theo Von
He.
[36:34]
Timothée Chalamet
Dude, he told so many great stories. I wish they'd have put him out on stage. I was like, have him go out there, right? Tell his stories. It was just classic, man. But I went to watch Bill Burr. I'm a big Bill Burr fan, so I went to watch him.
[36:45]
Theo Von
Did you see the last Sandler Special on Netflix?
[36:47]
Timothée Chalamet
McGee performed that night too. That was dope.
[36:49]
Theo Von
Wow. Yeah.
[36:50]
Timothée Chalamet
And then he. There we are right there with Chris Farley's brother, right?
[36:54]
Theo Von
I thought that was McGee. Dude, you look like you're 23, man.
[36:58]
Timothée Chalamet
No, no, dude, it's true. I look like I'm on your haircut or not. Hgh, dude.
[37:03]
Theo Von
No, no, no.
[37:03]
Timothée Chalamet
I gotta get some hgh.
[37:05]
Theo Von
Do you work out?
[37:06]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I do work out, dude. Yeah, I do. God. Yeah, I went today. I mean, that's what I mean. But yeah, once.
[37:14]
Theo Von
Yeah, works out once.
[37:19]
Timothée Chalamet
What else do I want to know about this film? So you didn't hear anything from Bob? What about like his wife or his kid or something?
[37:25]
Theo Von
No, his kids. You know, almost towards the start, Monica, who plays Joan Baez in the movie, she was in touch with Joan the whole time. And I thought about reaching out to his kids. But the thing is, when somebody gets revered like Bob, at some point he becomes this legend, you know, people can sanitize the past, you know.
[37:43]
Timothée Chalamet
What do you mean by that when you say that? Just so we know they could present.
[37:45]
Theo Von
The best version of someone, you know, and not present their flaws. You know, even a lot of the documentaries about Bob, they just paint him as a genius. There's one documentary called Don't Look Back, this Ta Da Pennebaker one. We actually see him raw. It just captures his behavior. And it was sort of right before he got too famous where he turned his back, you know, on letting himself be filmed. And so that was like the biggest help for me because. And I thought about talking to his kids or his grandkids, but actually I was at the University of Minnesota, like three days ago. We're doing a. Doing a sort of a screening for the students there. And then someone said, this is Milo Dillon. This is his grand nephew. And he looked like. Kind of looked like Bob. And he said, can we get a picture? And then he put his finger out. He said, you phase. And then I said, well, like the videos Clan. Like the video game. He said no, never mind.
[38:28]
Timothée Chalamet
Hmm. So the new deal. So even all the Dylan's are unique.
[38:33]
Theo Von
Yeah. I don't know what that means.
[38:35]
Timothée Chalamet
You phase.
[38:36]
Theo Von
I don't faze with the finger like that.
[38:38]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't know. I mean, I know faze banks. I don't know a lot of the faze guys. I know that one of them gave CPR to sketch one night or something when he wasn't doing good. Whoa. But anyway, shouldn't have said that out loud.
[38:50]
Theo Von
Who? Sketch? I don't know.
[38:52]
Timothée Chalamet
What's up, brother? That guy. Did you see him?
[38:54]
Theo Von
No.
[38:55]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, my gosh. Wow. It's crazy how different worlds are so different. Dude, sketch him.
[39:03]
Theo Von
No.
[39:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, my God.
[39:05]
Theo Von
No.
[39:06]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh.
[39:06]
Theo Von
Oh, yes. I have, I have, I have. Yeah. Is that brother? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[39:11]
Timothée Chalamet
He's.
[39:11]
Theo Von
He's been on this.
[39:12]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah, he's been on this.
[39:13]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah.
[39:13]
Timothée Chalamet
He's a great.
[39:14]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[39:14]
Timothée Chalamet
He is so creative. He has one of the most creative minds I've been around.
[39:17]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[39:17]
Timothée Chalamet
Just like to. He has his own pentameter of making jokes and stuff. It's pretty fascinating.
[39:21]
Theo Von
Is he stand up?
[39:22]
Timothée Chalamet
Nope, he's not a standup. I think there's this new thing that goes on now. Whereas if somebody's. It's interesting what's going to happen with standup. Because stand up has been this thing that people always go practice and then they go do. But now a lot of people build so much traction from social media. Yeah.
[39:35]
Theo Von
That they pop up like that.
[39:36]
Timothée Chalamet
Right. So then how do you. But then how do you take that and perform it? Is there a performance element?
[39:41]
Theo Von
It's a whole different thing.
[39:42]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, yeah.
[39:42]
Theo Von
Because some people on their podcasts are. Granted, the standup is different, right?
[39:45]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, it's different.
[39:46]
Theo Von
Do you feel like standups in a golden era? I feel like it's like boxing. I feel like now. Now I feel like Netflix kind of made it, you know, sexy again in some way.
[39:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. I think. Well, the news got like very all the same, I feel like. And it got very what a lot of people believe, maybe commandeered by advertising in a way.
[40:05]
Theo Von
Right, right, right, right.
[40:06]
Timothée Chalamet
Some of that happens. It's capitalism. So I think podcasting was just this.
[40:11]
Theo Von
Like, became this open format.
[40:12]
Timothée Chalamet
Yes.
[40:12]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[40:13]
Timothée Chalamet
Where it was like. Okay.
[40:14]
Theo Von
Also, you know that you're really resonating in some way. Yeah, right. Because it's not dollars. That or it's not like.
[40:18]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, especially in the beginning for the first, like four or five years, you're not really making any Money. So it's like you're just doing your best. You're just keeping it. And then at a certain point, like, people will say, well, if you're not gonna let me say what I want, then get your advertising off of my network.
[40:32]
Theo Von
Yeah, that's a. That's a risk, man. Yeah, risk dollars wise, right?
[40:36]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, it's a risk dollars wise. Yeah. I mean, Dana White was on here one time, and one of our episodes got pulled down because of. We had Bobby Kennedy on this, a political friend, a buddy of mine, but who also ended up going into politics, but they didn't want to be associated with it or whatever. And anyway, Dana was on, and he said. What? What? Who called? And said they. And we were like, it was this Kellogg's. It was biking company or something. No, it was like Proton or whatever it's called Peloton. Peloton.
[41:03]
Theo Von
Interesting.
[41:04]
Timothée Chalamet
And, dude, next thing you know, people all across the country were throwing pelotons into the Boston River.
[41:08]
Theo Von
Yeah, well, they give you heart attacks, too.
[41:10]
Timothée Chalamet
Do they really? Oh, well, that's not going to help them.
[41:11]
Theo Von
No, no. Based on that, Sex and the city, you know, Mr. Biggs, that's how he died.
[41:16]
Timothée Chalamet
I see that.
[41:16]
Theo Von
You see that? He died on the Peloton. He dies in the episode, and then their. Their stock crashed because people thought it was killing. It's like. And they obviously had to sign off on that.
[41:25]
Timothée Chalamet
I guess that wasn't a good idea.
[41:26]
Theo Von
That's a real thing, right, Mr. Biggs, I think.
[41:28]
Timothée Chalamet
Can we see anyway? Oh, there he is.
[41:34]
Theo Von
That's what happens when you.
[41:36]
Timothée Chalamet
He married Samantha, huh? I don't know about this show.
[41:40]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[41:41]
Timothée Chalamet
What else was I gonna think about? Oh, when you think about. So I just want to make sure that we get a lot about this film and what I thought that was. Yeah.
[41:48]
Theo Von
What did you like about it? You don't have to. You don't have to. You don't have to like the movie, but were you. Did you know anything about Bob Dylan before or. No.
[41:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Nope. I. Well, yeah, I know some of his music. You know, I know your mom listened to it. Oh, yeah, my mom listened to it. My. Bet. This kid I grew up with, he would play it in his room every night. He had the harmonic and everything. Was a big Bob Dylan fan. My. My friend Ty, who I used to live with. Who? Yeah, I mean, Bob Dylan was the first mumble rapper. I mean.
[42:12]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, man. Absolutely.
[42:14]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. Whining with a back.
[42:16]
Theo Von
Absolutely.
[42:16]
Timothée Chalamet
Everybody's like, you know, thinking that it was some of these Other guys like Uzi vert or maybe Kodak Black, but who's just a mumbler? I mean, at a certain point, can we just say that he's great?
[42:28]
Theo Von
Yeah, he was a mum. I mean, at some point he enunciated better.
[42:31]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[42:32]
Theo Von
But definitely early on.
[42:33]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, it's got a little rocky. I feel like it's gotten rocky, which is cool, man. He might be going through some stuff, too. Who knows? Sometimes it's so hard to know, you know, what people are.
[42:40]
Theo Von
Well, he definitely keeps it behind.
[42:41]
Timothée Chalamet
He does screen.
[42:42]
Theo Von
We don't know what's going on. Yeah. I probably said more in this interview than he said his whole life.
[42:45]
Timothée Chalamet
It's mythical. That'd be great if we had a word, like. It's like a word counter for you and Kodak.
[42:51]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[42:52]
Timothée Chalamet
You're, like, just miles ahead of him.
[42:53]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[42:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Literally, dude, you could sneeze and be, like, seven words ahead of him. I feel like you said it. You said it. What about some other. Well, I just want to think of anything else about the film that was. Was it hard to learn the music? Did you. Did you have any issues with that or how did you gu.
[43:08]
Theo Von
Not really. I mean, I had five years to work on it, so I took guitar lessons with a great.
[43:12]
Timothée Chalamet
Wait. You had five years to work on this wait because you auditioned for it?
[43:14]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[43:15]
Timothée Chalamet
Over a long period.
[43:16]
Theo Von
2000. Well, 2018. We're supposed to do it summer of 2020. Then the pandemic hit. Then I just kept working on it. Kept working. I was supposed to do the summer of 2023. Then the strike hit, which is when I was coach. Still getting in trouble for doing my. My. You know, getting rid of my lisp. I'm just kidding.
[43:33]
Timothée Chalamet
And, oh, when you were meeting with that guy and the dark alleys. To freaking. Yeah.
[43:37]
Theo Von
To work on the accent.
[43:38]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. To work on your keeping your tongue down when you say certain vowels. Down with the palace.
[43:47]
Theo Von
Hey, man, you know, do you work.
[43:49]
Timothée Chalamet
You know, I. Years ago, I went to, you know.
[43:51]
Theo Von
Actually talk like this.
[43:52]
Timothée Chalamet
Huh. Yeah.
[43:53]
Theo Von
Your voice is actually super high. When I walked in here today, Theo's voice was super high.
[43:59]
Timothée Chalamet
I'm a Disney character.
[44:02]
Theo Von
And he kept doing this weird thing. We'd rock back and forth. That's how he welcomed me. And then he insisted that I jump on his back and get brought in here. And he put me on the couch. Then he assumed the character. We all know that it's the Ovon.
[44:16]
Timothée Chalamet
But I actually wanted him to jump on my front. Dude, when people do front Side piggybacks. That's kind of like.
[44:22]
Theo Von
Never heard of that in my life.
[44:23]
Timothée Chalamet
And that's when I. Hey, that's when I quit playing tennis in junior high school, I'll tell you.
[44:27]
Theo Von
But listen, you gotta be strong enough to do that.
[44:29]
Timothée Chalamet
That's a good point.
[44:30]
Theo Von
Probably. I could probably do it to you. I'm getting you out your comfort zone, man.
[44:35]
Timothée Chalamet
You cannot do a front side piggyback.
[44:37]
Theo Von
When we finish it. When we finish this. Yes. You know, I'm jumping on the front.
[44:42]
Timothée Chalamet
And anybody that can draw a picture of Timothy and me and involved in front side piggybacking, let me know. I'll buy it from you, and we'll donate a thousand dollars to a charity of your choice.
[44:51]
Theo Von
And, you know, can I f you? You after this look at Little John Cena thing? Just for promo. Just for promo.
[44:59]
Timothée Chalamet
Yes.
[45:00]
Theo Von
Clicks. I'll do it on this.
[45:02]
Timothée Chalamet
Okay.
[45:02]
Theo Von
All right. You land on that. Oh, man. No, I'm gonna be like. Then I'll. And then I'll suplex you on.
[45:10]
Timothée Chalamet
Right through there.
[45:11]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[45:11]
Timothée Chalamet
I think we should get that.
[45:13]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[45:13]
Timothée Chalamet
It's that time of year, man. It's a holiday. Come on.
[45:15]
Theo Von
It's the holidays. You know, this is. This is the holidays in America in 2024.
[45:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[45:20]
Theo Von
Are you a big holidays guy?
[45:21]
Timothée Chalamet
You know what? I think I. It does remind me a little bit to slow down kind of, you know, which is nice, because life gets going pretty fast a lot of times.
[45:29]
Theo Von
Do you think you're more elfish or Santa?
[45:32]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, it's a good question. Oh, I wish I could be a little more Santa. I'm more of, like, sometimes a little more Mrs. Claws. Like, I'll start bitching about a lot of.
[45:40]
Theo Von
About nothing? Yeah, about nothing.
[45:42]
Timothée Chalamet
I'll just get a light shade, but I just gotta slow down. It's just been, like, a long year.
[45:46]
Theo Von
Yeah, you've been busy.
[45:47]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[45:47]
Theo Von
What are you gonna do for. You gonna go away or anything?
[45:49]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I'm gonna go to Louisiana and see some family. Then I might try to take a vacation for a few days.
[45:52]
Theo Von
We'll see a little Baton Rouge.
[45:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. My family lives right down there. So. What about you?
[45:57]
Theo Von
I'm gonna be here because I've been all over the place. I'm going to New York tonight. Then I go to London and then do all this promo for the movie.
[46:03]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, you see the promo for this movie? For how long does promo take?
[46:05]
Theo Von
Well, it's coming out on Christmas, so I'm going every day, you know. But I love the movie. That's why. That's why, you know, that's why. Shit, man, I'm trying to go as hard as possible and. And you know, and then fucking come back here and be with my family. Be my new little niece.
[46:22]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, you got a new niece? First one.
[46:23]
Theo Von
First one.
[46:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Let's go.
[46:25]
Theo Von
Dude, that's a crazy.
[46:25]
Timothée Chalamet
What's her name? Can you bring a picture of her? We can't show a picture of her.
[46:28]
Theo Von
I don't even think my sister's kept her offline. You know, My sister lives in a sort of like. She's with a group of people in like a forest type thing in France.
[46:37]
Timothée Chalamet
No way. You're where? Near Ansi?
[46:38]
Theo Von
Yeah, near. Near Nancy. Yep. And yeah, yeah, yeah. In. In a forest. No, no Internet. I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, no, she's.
[46:47]
Timothée Chalamet
Let's check in on your sister, you know, let's email her a meal.
[46:51]
Theo Von
Let's give her a French. French coupon. French Groupon. No, but she's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No Groupons in France, man. No Groupons in France. No groupons. And a high property tax.
[47:02]
Timothée Chalamet
They have high property tax over there.
[47:03]
Theo Von
Absolutely.
[47:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Beautiful property.
[47:05]
Theo Von
Beautiful property. And they don't want people just coming in, you know, not, you know, milling.
[47:08]
Timothée Chalamet
Around for 40 bucks a month property tax.
[47:10]
Theo Von
I'm in that age now where I'll chat gbt. Like, what are the most attractive low property tax places in America or around the world?
[47:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah, one of them was my neighborhood growing up, dude. I remember our property tax was $8 one year. My mom paid in cash, dude, right out of her purse. I was like, where do we live at?
[47:29]
Theo Von
Where would she give it to?
[47:30]
Timothée Chalamet
The guy that came by, was it.
[47:32]
Theo Von
A legit guy, you think?
[47:33]
Timothée Chalamet
He looked pretty legit. He had his. All of his buttons on his head.
[47:36]
Theo Von
He had a hoodie that said government. Yeah, she just gave him eight bucks. Oh, man. Same thing, man. I grew up in like a Michelama. You know about Michelama?
[47:45]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah, the. The restaurant stars or whatever.
[47:47]
Theo Von
No, no, no, no, no. The Michel is like there's like two ver. To my understanding, there's two versions of like good arts housing. You got section eight. That means you're paying like under 800 bucks. Mitchell llama. Yep.
[47:58]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, that damn Mitchell Llama brother.
[48:00]
Theo Von
Absolutely. Oh, that's me, baby. Moderate Mitchell.
[48:04]
Timothée Chalamet
I'm a program fries. Affordable rental and cooperative housing and moderate and middle income families. You're just talking about Alphabet City.
[48:09]
Theo Von
Basically, dude. Wow. So how do you know you're new, you know New York, man.
[48:13]
Timothée Chalamet
I like New York. I like. I mean, yeah, it's definitely fascinating.
[48:15]
Theo Von
Do you ever live there?
[48:17]
Timothée Chalamet
No, I've just stayed there for like maybe three months at the most. I would live there. If I get a wife and she lives there, I'll stay, I'll go live there.
[48:24]
Theo Von
What's the ideal, you know, what does she look like both inside and out?
[48:29]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, she looks like. Probably looks like a nice lady, I think. Let me think about the rest of it. Probably maybe played volleyball. Maybe didn't. Maybe likes to be a mom. Maybe. I don't know, dude.
[48:47]
Theo Von
She's looking for to likes to laugh.
[48:49]
Timothée Chalamet
Has a good sense of humor.
[48:50]
Theo Von
Okay.
[48:51]
Timothée Chalamet
Because people that laugh get jokes usually like, you can't.
[48:54]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[48:55]
Timothée Chalamet
You know, unless you're just. Something's wrong with you and there's something. You just laugh every now and then.
[48:58]
Theo Von
Right. Right.
[48:59]
Timothée Chalamet
So like. Yeah.
[49:00]
Theo Von
Could you do somersaults?
[49:02]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, I hope she can, but I'm not trying to be some kind of pervert or whatever, you know, but I wouldn't mind seeing one every now and then, especially if it's holidays or whatever and she wants to, you know, pop off a damn B handspring or something before everybody cuts into some latkes or whatever. I'm down for it.
[49:18]
Theo Von
So.
[49:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I think I'm open to a lot of different things, I think.
[49:21]
Theo Von
Yeah. You know, and like handstands and shit, I mean.
[49:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Okay. I don't know what you're gonna get here.
[49:28]
Theo Von
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[50:09]
Theo Von
I'm upstairs.
[50:12]
Timothée Chalamet
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[54:02]
Theo Von
Yeah. You got to set the. You're going to set your life up.
[54:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. And how are you going to get divorced if you don't get married? You know what I'm saying? Absolutely.
[54:08]
Theo Von
And those are two crucial chapters of life. That's it. Is your home wifable not current? Is there, like, shit everywhere when you walk in?
[54:17]
Timothée Chalamet
No, Mom's organized. I got my tree up right now.
[54:21]
Theo Von
Nice. You got a tree?
[54:23]
Timothée Chalamet
I got a box of gifts. There's a lady that I don't even know who has sent me a box of Christmas ornaments for the past four years.
[54:29]
Theo Von
Sweet.
[54:29]
Timothée Chalamet
It comes every year. I put them up on the tree.
[54:31]
Theo Von
It's got a little mic and a camera in there.
[54:32]
Timothée Chalamet
There's the.
[54:34]
Theo Von
Yeah, she's just.
[54:35]
Timothée Chalamet
Bro, that's such a good idea.
[54:38]
Theo Von
She's just watching.
[54:38]
Timothée Chalamet
You watch every Christmas. It's called. It's a murder movie.
[54:42]
Theo Von
It's a murder. Yeah.
[54:42]
Timothée Chalamet
Or it's just some movie about. It's about somebody who used to love somebody, and they're watching their family now, and they send them this random box, and people put it on their tree. They don't know. Yeah, it has a camera in it and.
[54:51]
Theo Von
Have a camera in it. Yeah. Write it, baby.
[54:54]
Timothée Chalamet
I'm not going to.
[54:54]
Theo Von
We did.
[54:55]
Timothée Chalamet
That's it.
[54:55]
Theo Von
What do you watch on Christmas?
[54:57]
Timothée Chalamet
I watch.
[54:58]
Theo Von
What would the camera see you doing?
[55:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, we're supposed to do Christmas caroling this year with a couple fellows from the gym, actually. And so we're supposed to practice on Friday, and we just hired a cool brother over there in Nashville to help us learn some of the lyrics. You say brothers, dude, and then I love you.
[55:14]
Theo Von
Say that, man.
[55:14]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah, we're excited about it. There's all brothers going, so you got to respect the culture, man. You know what I'm saying?
[55:20]
Theo Von
Oh, man.
[55:22]
Timothée Chalamet
But, yeah, and then what are we going to go? Oh, I watched Family Man. You've ever seen that one?
[55:27]
Theo Von
No, I've never seen Family man with Nicholas Cage.
[55:30]
Timothée Chalamet
It's a great movie.
[55:31]
Theo Von
One of the greats.
[55:32]
Timothée Chalamet
Have you ever met him?
[55:33]
Theo Von
No, man, but Matchstick Men's one of my favorite movies ever. Yeah, you know. You know, Nicholas Cage, man, what a life.
[55:40]
Timothée Chalamet
But, yeah, I'd like to get a wife, maybe. What about. There's kind of a love triangle in the movie.
[55:45]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's.
[55:46]
Timothée Chalamet
So the women's. Joan Baez.
[55:48]
Theo Von
Joan Baez. And Sylvie Russo is Sylvie Russo.
[55:51]
Timothée Chalamet
Was she an artist? I couldn't tell.
[55:52]
Theo Von
Yeah, she. She's her real name Sues Rotolo in real life. But the real Bob Dylan was still very protective over her. She was never really famous. So that was one of his big script notes. He said, change that name. And, you know, just. I think he felt protective over her legacy in some way.
[56:07]
Timothée Chalamet
So he had some notes about the script.
[56:09]
Theo Von
Yeah, exactly. The love triangle is sort of one of the big, you know, like, we do these Q and A's for the movie now. People will say was Bob. Was his behavior towards the people that he was in a relationship with in his life, you know, was. It's definitely complicated, but my answer is always he was. He was focused on his art first and foremost. Also, this movie is about people in their early 20s. You don't really have life figured out, especially in relationship then. Yeah, that stuff is a mess at that age. So he was kind of between these two women in the movie. And Joan Baez is a musician and artist, ambitious the way Bob would have been. And Sylvie's really the more grounded character. I think what Elle Fanning does in the movie is incredible. You kind of see the movie through her eyes because she's not. Not. She's not one of these famous musicians. She's really just a real person and is, you know, deeply affected.
[56:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Yes, she was very affected by Dylan. And her character was. Yeah, that was interesting to see.
[56:59]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[56:59]
Timothée Chalamet
And the things that.
[57:00]
Theo Von
Well, she was. She's the only person in the movie that doesn't have a transactional relationship with him.
[57:03]
Timothée Chalamet
Right.
[57:03]
Theo Von
Really loves him for who he is. And, you know, that was our theory. You know, I never talked to Bob Dylan, but I feel like that's why I think he's still fond of that relationship in private about it, because if maybe the rest of his life could be confusing. I don't wanna speak for him, but confusing about like who's being genuine with me and who's not. She was always the clear day one clear candidate. Yeah.
[57:25]
Timothée Chalamet
Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I found like when I was watching it. Yeah. You're kind of rooting. It's weird because who you're rooting for changes almost from scene to scene in the movie.
[57:38]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[57:38]
Timothée Chalamet
You know. Yeah.
[57:39]
Theo Von
No one's like a great besides elf fanning. Everyone comes off a little real. Yeah. Yeah.
[57:45]
Timothée Chalamet
Hopefully, you know, flawed but like in a human way.
[57:47]
Theo Von
Flawed in a human way and a little. Especially in your early 20s, man, you're trying to figure out your life.
[57:51]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh yeah, dude, they don't even. Yeah.
[57:53]
Theo Von
Were you a saint in your early 20s, dude?
[57:55]
Timothée Chalamet
No, I was. I mean I was a Saints fan. I'm a New Orleans Saints fan, but I was not. I was.
[58:01]
Theo Von
You're at the game like bucket.
[58:03]
Timothée Chalamet
I mean I had on maybe a. You know, I might have had on a Drew Brees jersey.
[58:07]
Theo Von
Breeze Jersey on your 16 miller light, dude.
[58:09]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, yeah, that's for sure.
[58:11]
Theo Von
That was.
[58:13]
Timothée Chalamet
But no. Yeah. It's like. Yeah. How do you even get start to get things figured out? But that's one thing that I liked about it. I like seeing the different. And I like that there was like, okay, what's this relationship like over here going to happen? What's this relationship like over here going to happen? And then just seeing like I did get a better idea of like, okay, Bob Dylan was just kind of like affected dude, that he kind of was maybe better than he thought he was or. Or he was actually so great and they tried to manipulate him. It was just all so confused, you know, like. And I think it was confusing to him and it was like.
[58:47]
Theo Von
Exactly.
[58:48]
Timothée Chalamet
It was. It was all. It was just a lot going on and he seemed like a unique person and probably like a secretly sensitive guy. And so for all those things to happen, you know, so quick to him and then from him to try to figure it out and navigate what was real. I don't know, man.
[59:03]
Theo Von
Exactly. And that's something I could relate to. Not in the relationships necessarily in my life, but you know, you feel like your career gets going. I don't know how you feel about that. And you want to protect your energy and. But you still want to have close, you know, friendships and relationships and. But at first it's very. It's a hard thing to navigate, particularly if you want to keep writing. You keep wanting like Bob Dylan, you know, and like you said, he was genuinely great at it. He had a gift from God at that point in his career. He said it in an Ed Bradley interview in 2004. He's like, I feel like God was writing through me. And he says in the interview, I can't do it anymore. He almost says it like, Melanie misses it. Like he misses it. Yeah. It's a beautiful moment in this Ed Bradley interview. He just. He says, like, I can't do it anymore. I don't know how those words were coming to me. And. Wow. And I feel like musicians even more than actors. I feel like an actor. Like, into your 30s and 40s and 50s, as your face ages, you can keep doing great work and the gravitas of your life lives on your face. You know what I mean?
[59:55]
Timothée Chalamet
Right. And so the more you learn in life, the more abilities you're gonna have.
[59:59]
Theo Von
Yeah. And the more trauma you go through. Whatever. And I feel like, as a musician, you could still do. Still do great shit, but it's really like a young man's game.
[60:05]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[60:05]
Theo Von
You know? Yeah.
[60:06]
Timothée Chalamet
Cause you have to do all that touring and stuff as well.
[60:07]
Theo Von
It beats you up for you.
[60:08]
Timothée Chalamet
The movie kind of tours for you.
[60:10]
Theo Von
Exactly. You know, I love. You know, it's funny. We do these Q and A's. So I get the backstage experience. My. Holy shit. I'm coming out, man. Like, fuck. They're gonna say my name out loud. I'm all excited, and I come out. And then, as opposed to a rock star, I fucking sit in a chair.
[60:22]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah.
[60:23]
Theo Von
And I answer.
[60:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Watch this.
[60:24]
Theo Von
And I sit down, and I try to give poised answers and just make.
[60:27]
Timothée Chalamet
Sure your posture is okay.
[60:29]
Theo Von
Dude, it's humiliating.
[60:31]
Timothée Chalamet
Pasture rocking in the house tonight. That is so hard to deal with.
[60:34]
Theo Von
Because I'll be backstage, and it's. You hear the crowd, like, Timothy. Yeah. And then I take my seat. Yeah. Yeah. And then I'm poised.
[60:42]
Timothée Chalamet
You're like, oh, let's go.
[60:44]
Theo Von
And I sit down. Dude, it's humiliating.
[60:47]
Timothée Chalamet
It's like. It's very anti. I don't know what the word is, but somebody else probably knows it. But, yeah, I don't know it, but, yeah, dude, I. You know what, though? I think it was. I do think that it was interesting if you frame it up like, this is what it is. It's a. It's a. It's a mo. It's a few years in a man's life that was a very interesting man who's probably written so many songs that some young people don't even Know that he wrote.
[61:08]
Theo Von
Yeah, exactly.
[61:09]
Timothée Chalamet
I was listening and I was like, no way. He wrote that. And, like, just some relationships that he had with other artists that you may not even know about.
[61:16]
Theo Von
And sort of the first guy for me in American pop culture that said, I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want.
[61:20]
Timothée Chalamet
And that was a point.
[61:21]
Theo Von
Yeah. And that was, like, sort of blasphemous. Like every artist through the last 30, 40, 50 years that a lot of whom you can't shout out because they've basically. They've basically burned so many bridges. But Bob Dylan was the first. He just wouldn't take no for an answer. He just was fired up about his art and perception.
[61:38]
Timothée Chalamet
No, I don't think it sounds like anything. Yeah.
[61:40]
Theo Von
But it sound corny because he really didn't give a fuck. And it's. That, to me, was really refreshing to work on, you know? Now we live in a time where it's not only. Not only is it hard to be rebellious about your art, but it's as much about the Coliseum's reaction. You know, you think about a clip you like, online or something you like or don't like. The first thing you do is you go to the comments. It's as much about how people are reacting, you know what I'm saying? As it is about the actual thing. Right. So in some ways, it's harder now. It's kind of harder now because not.
[62:05]
Timothée Chalamet
Only do you have to manage what you present, but you have to manage also. How? What, I don't know.
[62:10]
Theo Von
Or you got. No, no. But, yeah, I was just trying to say. And also to avoid that. That's kind of what I'm doing these days, man. You just gotta, like. You have to bury your head. So far, even, like the pictures from the premiere, I'm just like, you know, I just try to put the shutters on. It's not healthy, man. You know.
[62:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, looking at all your stuff and looking at that. Yeah, you know, it's weird.
[62:27]
Theo Von
It's fucking weird.
[62:27]
Timothée Chalamet
And then, you know, you're not supposed to do it.
[62:29]
Theo Von
No, we're supposed to be, you know, like, gathering nuts and berries. No, that's not like.
[62:34]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, well, no, they had that first guy, Narcissus or whatever. Looked in the river and saw himself, you know, and then he's like, where the ladies at? Or whatever.
[62:41]
Theo Von
You're like, whoa, dude, what are you talking about, Dude? You're not even that good looking.
[62:45]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. Kill a rabbit, dude.
[62:47]
Theo Von
Yeah, we are. Our tribe needs to eat.
[62:49]
Timothée Chalamet
Make a salad, bro. Yeah, we got yeah, yeah.
[62:51]
Theo Von
We got people to feed. We have 17 people and our. Our elder is suffering.
[62:56]
Timothée Chalamet
Like, you're over here, like, trying to start Clar Clairol or whatever.
[62:59]
Theo Von
Yeah, exactly. Working on your, you know.
[63:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, it's like just a bunch of Dior moisturizer. Talking about lip filler to everybody. Like, what are you even talking about?
[63:07]
Theo Von
Dude, it's since 300 BC. What does that even mean? Stop working on Uriah Profile and help us with the fire we need to put out in the forest, you narcissistic prick.
[63:18]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, dude, what are you talking.
[63:20]
Theo Von
Yeah, I have no clue. No clue.
[63:25]
Timothée Chalamet
What about other. Because you can only do so many biopics, too.
[63:29]
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah.
[63:30]
Timothée Chalamet
That's kind of weird. So you kind of. You burned a biopic.
[63:31]
Theo Von
I burned a bio.
[63:32]
Timothée Chalamet
Is it biopic? We don't know.
[63:33]
Theo Von
I don't know. I burned a biopic and I gotta go back in three months and they gotta check if it's still there and. No, you're right. I can only do so many. Especially, like, music ones. I'll be honest.
[63:42]
Timothée Chalamet
What are some other ones, you think? I have a couple.
[63:44]
Theo Von
Listen, man. Oh, ideas.
[63:45]
Timothée Chalamet
No, you go first.
[63:46]
Theo Von
Okay, like, that I could do, or you could do.
[63:48]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't know. If I keep talking people. Why do you sit with him and just talk the whole time? So we gotta get you to say something.
[63:54]
Theo Von
No, I mean. Well, I'm trying to think of ones you could do. You could do.
[64:00]
Timothée Chalamet
I know, I could do.
[64:01]
Theo Von
Maybe you could do a Brad Pitt biopic. You know what I'm saying? Right there. Come on. Put a little sprinkle on it. Put a little sprinkle on it.
[64:07]
Timothée Chalamet
No, maybe if, like, Maybe a Brad pick, like, was stranded somewhere, like, you know, maybe like a hitchhiker, something.
[64:15]
Theo Von
No, but you could.
[64:17]
Timothée Chalamet
You could do. Would you ever do Mabu? You think Lil Mabu?
[64:19]
Theo Von
Oh, my God. Dude, that is funny. That's an alternate time. I'm him in an alternate timeline.
[64:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah?
[64:24]
Theo Von
Yeah. Because, you know, I used to. I used to.
[64:26]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, you know, this two ways you could have gone. That's what we like to say a lot of times.
[64:29]
Theo Von
Yeah, that's me in an alternate timeline.
[64:31]
Timothée Chalamet
I love him, bro.
[64:32]
Theo Von
I don't know enough about him. I know he's from New York, though.
[64:34]
Timothée Chalamet
You're right. You know, it's a great point. I don't know if I like him. Dude could be a dirt ball. But I like. I like some of his energy, dude. Some of his is pretty.
[64:40]
Theo Von
It's very Bob Dylan, man. Just be who you want. To be.
[64:42]
Timothée Chalamet
That's good point. That's how I do feel about him.
[64:44]
Theo Von
It's like.
[64:45]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, I feel like. I feel like he's kind of unique. He kind of reminds me of like a Eminem, like when Eminem kind of like. He reminds me like how unique Eminem was. Just unique in his time period.
[64:54]
Theo Von
Just did it. I'll. Maybe I'll do a little Mabu biopic. I don't know what it's about. I wonder what the tragedy of his life is. Is.
[64:58]
Timothée Chalamet
That's a good point. It could be some crypto failure.
[65:01]
Theo Von
Yeah. He launched Mabu Coin.
[65:02]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, he's going to be so fast. Dude.
[65:04]
Theo Von
Man. Bro.
[65:05]
Timothée Chalamet
Sorry. No, dude, no.
[65:06]
Theo Von
I don't know. I don't know him. I mean, he's clearly killing it.
[65:08]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[65:09]
Theo Von
If he wasn't killing it, we weren't talking. We wouldn't be talking about him.
[65:10]
Timothée Chalamet
It's a good point. Oh, I think he's just.
[65:12]
Theo Von
He's.
[65:12]
Timothée Chalamet
He's definitely super entertaining. Yeah. And we're just joking around.
[65:15]
Theo Von
And he started that conference Con Conservation Fund.
[65:20]
Timothée Chalamet
Did he really?
[65:20]
Theo Von
For the. For that then. I was fucking with you. I'm sorry.
[65:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, you're good, bro. Dude, you should be a politician. Dude.
[65:28]
Theo Von
You're good. Zach. Dude, but what.
[65:31]
Timothée Chalamet
Or that. Or maybe Abraham Lincoln's son or whatever.
[65:33]
Theo Von
It could be Abraham Lincoln. Me or you?
[65:35]
Timothée Chalamet
You. What about if Abraham Lincoln's son, Dave Lincoln. Ridiculous idea.
[65:40]
Theo Von
It was Dave Lincoln.
[65:42]
Timothée Chalamet
Was it Dave Lincoln or Ricky Lincoln? Bring it. Who is his son? Tad Lincoln. Oh, my God.
[65:52]
Theo Von
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[65:53]
Timothée Chalamet
Go to his information. Let's see him. Wow. That's. Dude, you could be Ted Lincoln. The fourth son of Abraham Lincoln.
[66:00]
Theo Von
What was his. Born with a cleft lip and palate. I'll work with Timon, we were talking about earlier. I'll work with Tim Monic on it. You know, and hopefully there's no strike.
[66:08]
Timothée Chalamet
Imagine his father gave some of the greatest speeches and here he is and he has this kind of like a little bit of a. Like a disfigurement or some impairment.
[66:15]
Theo Von
Right.
[66:16]
Timothée Chalamet
And he's like, how do I overcome this?
[66:17]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[66:17]
Timothée Chalamet
To say something as important that my father said.
[66:20]
Theo Von
Did he ever. Did he ever. We could change it. We could just give him a speech.
[66:24]
Timothée Chalamet
They were considered notorious hellions, him and his brother Willie.
[66:27]
Theo Von
He was sick a lot. He got typhoid. A lot of people were getting sick back then.
[66:31]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. Oh, easily. You caught a frisbee that was dirty and you were down for two months.
[66:35]
Theo Von
He went to see Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp oh, wow.
[66:39]
Timothée Chalamet
On April 14, 1865, Tad went to Grover's Theater to play Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp while his parents attended the performance of Tom Taylor's play Our American Cousin at Ford Theater. That night, his father was assassinated. Wow. So he was.
[66:51]
Theo Von
That'll be, that could be my big scene.
[66:53]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. And you finally run up to him as he's.
[66:56]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[66:56]
Timothée Chalamet
And you say something super important.
[66:57]
Theo Von
Who's playing Abraham Lincoln?
[66:59]
Timothée Chalamet
Huh?
[66:59]
Theo Von
Who's playing Lincoln?
[67:00]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't know. We got to get somebody good.
[67:02]
Theo Von
Pa's dead. I can hardly believe that I should never see him. This is some heavy. After the assassination, Mary, Robert and Tad lived together in Chicago.
[67:10]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh.
[67:11]
Theo Von
He died at 18. Dude. I can't. Come on. Oh, Holy tuberculosis.
[67:16]
Timothée Chalamet
This was a waste attack.
[67:18]
Theo Von
Pneumonia and congestive heart failure.
[67:21]
Timothée Chalamet
You could do it, man. Yeah, you could do it.
[67:23]
Theo Von
Yeah. Age me down a little bit.
[67:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Or Jim Carrey. I think I could see you playing a Jim Carrey one day too. I was thinking about that.
[67:28]
Theo Von
He's brilliant, dude. I mean, he's so brilliant. Yeah, he. Have you seen his, have you seen his? He went to some fashion event, like 2018, 2019. You see this red carpet interview? It's the biggest not give a interview of all time. Yeah. If we have enough time, we should add 20 minutes to this anyway, if we can. This is, this is the greatest.
[67:44]
Timothée Chalamet
He looks so dropped into being himself.
[67:46]
Theo Von
Yeah. Yes. I've covered a lot of fashion. This is the first time I've run in to Jim Carrey.
[67:52]
Timothée Chalamet
Wait. Controlling the room, is it?
[67:54]
Theo Von
Sure.
[67:54]
Timothée Chalamet
You're wandering the streets.
[67:55]
Theo Von
You need a date to the party. What's up? No, no, no, I'm doing just fine. I just, you know, there's no meaning to any of this, so I wanted to find the most meaningless thing that I could come to and join, and here I am. There's some, I mean, you gotta admit, it's completely meaningless.
[68:14]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, they say they're celebrating.
[68:15]
Theo Von
I. Icons inside icons. Boy, that is just the absolute lowest aiming, you know, possibility that we could come up with. It's like icons. What do you, do you believe in icons? I don't believe in personalities. I don't believe that you exist. But there is a wonderful fragrance in the air.
[68:34]
Timothée Chalamet
You don't believe certain icons even when she doesn't exist. He's still trying to flirt.
[68:40]
Theo Von
Artistry. You're one of them on the good foot.
[68:45]
Timothée Chalamet
He's like, you're invisible, but let's smash.
[68:49]
Theo Von
Yeah, no, I, I, I don't believe in icon.
[68:52]
Timothée Chalamet
That's good Man, I don't believe in personality.
[68:54]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[68:55]
Timothée Chalamet
That would be an interesting guy to play, because that's really cool. That's a cool scene to play if you could do that.
[68:59]
Theo Von
Yeah. Crazy life.
[69:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. What his life was like.
[69:02]
Theo Von
Yeah. I mean, he was the biggest.
[69:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Biggest. Bigger than anything.
[69:05]
Theo Von
Bigger than anything right in the 2000s.
[69:06]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, okay.
[69:07]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[69:08]
Timothée Chalamet
And he had a show called In Living Color before that. That was like, Jamie Fox was on it. He.
[69:11]
Theo Von
He was like the only white guy on it.
[69:13]
Timothée Chalamet
It was him. Yeah. And they had a.
[69:16]
Theo Von
He's become an artist.
[69:17]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. Now he's an artist. But it's just interesting to get all the art out of your system, you know, because some artists.
[69:22]
Theo Von
I think that's kind of what he. I think that's what he feels like. I saw an interview with him today, Sonic the Hedgehog. They said, why'd you do this? He said, for the money. But what a life. Because when Bruce Almighty was coming on me, really, he was like, the biggest.
[69:33]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah.
[69:34]
Theo Von
Wow.
[69:35]
Timothée Chalamet
What about. Do you feel like you have to be like. Because you're kind of like the. The. The. It got like the. It. Younger guy in Hollywood.
[69:45]
Theo Von
For sure. For sure.
[69:46]
Timothée Chalamet
You know, does that. But does that feel like. I don't know. And I know it's like, do you. How do you. And a lot of that is a lot of times curtailed by, like, the industry. Like, you're.
[69:57]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[69:57]
Timothée Chalamet
Like you have a. You have, like. I thought you'd come with, like, in a tank or something. Like you drove over here by yourself.
[70:03]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah.
[70:04]
Timothée Chalamet
So definitely, kind of, I guess, maybe against what I was thinking, which doesn't mean anything, but do you worry about. How do you still be yourself and find yourself at a time when you could be so maneuvered by so many bigger.
[70:19]
Theo Von
Listen, man. Not to bring it back to the movie, but that's where Bob Dylan's so influential.
[70:22]
Timothée Chalamet
No, this is perfect.
[70:22]
Theo Von
No, because Bob always followed his path. And what's interesting about the movie industry, instead of, like. As opposed to the music industry. The music industry, you write your own music, you know, and it's direct to the consumer in some sense. Like, you do whatever the fuck you want. And if people are vibing with it, you'll know. And whatever in the movie industry, you do kind of have to. You gotta be reliable, you know, a musician, you show up whenever you want. They could be rockstar, show up four hours late. If you're three hours late to a movie, they gotta call insurance. You cost a million dollars now, you'll never work again. So There's a part of the job that's obedient in a sense, but the best art and the best shit we see is stuff that, that, you know.
[70:58]
Timothée Chalamet
Is people showed up for.
[71:00]
Theo Von
People showed up, but also where they broke rules in a sense. You know, I was just talking to. Oh yeah, yeah. And so it's a fine line. And I look at it like this, this is my inner Tom Cruise, where I want movies to be seen and I don't want to live an unobedient life. But I also want at a time where maybe Hollywood or movie makers got a perception of like sometimes being out of touch or something or definitely like awards type movies. I want especially a movie about Bob Dylan. I want in all the movies I work on. That's why I did Dune, that's why I did Wonka. And I'm proud that those movies, I know I'm not supposed to pat myself on the back, but those movies were big, you know, like in the movie industry or the movie business, brick and mortar theaters, they don't, they don't do the business they once did. Some of that's inevitable because of streaming. But I want to put my best foot forward. You got to give back to the industry that gave to you. That's really my mouth. And that's why I'm, that's why I'm here. That you know, you know, otherwise, that's why you can't be the reclusive figure that Bob Dylan or Daniel Day Lewis or these guys were. Because the, it's not about the bottom line, but the, the attention isn't guaranteed the way it used to be. You know what I mean? I hope this doesn't sound like too inside baseball.
[72:13]
Timothée Chalamet
I want inside baseball. I just, you know, you're like a real thinker, you know, so it's not like you're going to give some answer that isn't.
[72:19]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[72:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Traveling through your thoughts and you explaining stuff.
[72:22]
Theo Von
Yeah, that's perfect.
[72:23]
Timothée Chalamet
There's no wrong way to answer it. It's a weird thing. It's like, yeah. And then also I had a full.
[72:28]
Theo Von
Ass real life before my career took off, like in the East Village in New York. So not that my life isn't real now, but like obviously on these press tours and stuff, the days are micromanaged in some way. But man, you. Here's the thing, that's another thing I say like as a musician or as a pop star, whatever your music can be about, your erosion of humanity. Like it could be about, hey, I'm driving this car and this is the crazy lifestyle of. But if you're an actor, if you. If you lose your sense of humanity, if you lose your stink, for lack of a better word, people will see that on screen. You do see it on screen.
[73:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, you seem too fancy. You seem out of touch.
[73:02]
Theo Von
People are going to know. That's why the Safdie movie I just did, man, he put me. He put me through the ringer.
[73:07]
Timothée Chalamet
Really?
[73:07]
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. And I felt like. I felt like he was testing me early on.
[73:10]
Timothée Chalamet
What does that mean? So when somebody's like. So a director can kind of put you through some fucking shit.
[73:14]
Theo Von
Yeah. Look, Josh knew me since I was 21. Josh Safdie. Safdie. I was 21.
[73:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Uncut gems. That's that movie, right? Yeah.
[73:21]
Theo Von
Uncut Gems.
[73:21]
Timothée Chalamet
One of the best movies.
[73:22]
Theo Von
There you go, man. And Good and Good Time, you know, Good Time with Robert Pattinson. He directed too.
[73:27]
Timothée Chalamet
I haven't seen that. I'm saving Robert Pattinson for after later.
[73:29]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. But you know, like, early on we had stuff that could have been stunt guys on this movie on Marty supreme. And I saw him wanting me to do it. Part of me is like, this feels like a test, you know, And I wanted to show him. And then now I feel like I've emerged from the other side with no broken bones or whatever. Thank God. But. And Josh, I know I'm supposed to be talking about the Bob Dylan movie, but Josh, okay.
[73:51]
Timothée Chalamet
It's all you.
[73:51]
Theo Von
Acting. Yeah. Josh is the real deal, man. Like, and seriously, like Josh Saffi, he's like the modern day Scorsese. Oh, dude, you would love him.
[74:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would like to meet him. He could play Abraham Lincoln.
[74:06]
Theo Von
He could play Abraham Lincoln.
[74:07]
Timothée Chalamet
You play Tad Lincoln.
[74:09]
Theo Von
I could play Chad Lincoln. Tell him right now. Oh, his brother's an actor. Benny, you ever see. You saw the Nathan Fielder show with Emma Stone on Showtime? No. Yeah, yeah, that's his brother.
[74:17]
Timothée Chalamet
I've seen Nathan Filter show.
[74:18]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[74:19]
Timothée Chalamet
Wow, that's cool.
[74:20]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah.
[74:21]
Timothée Chalamet
Wow, that must have been awesome, man. Because he's a. That guy that, that Uncut Gems is so good. I look forward to seeing that. Yeah.
[74:26]
Theo Von
This is a crazy, crazy.
[74:28]
Timothée Chalamet
So directors can do that. So sometimes it's like that. It's going to be a journey.
[74:32]
Theo Von
It's going to be a journey. Yeah.
[74:33]
Timothée Chalamet
And what was the biggest journey through the. Through the unknown. I just want to get the name of it right.
[74:39]
Theo Von
A complete unknown, Christmas Day through.
[74:41]
Timothée Chalamet
What was that? Yeah, leave it like that. What was the biggest journey through a Complete unknown on Christmas Day.
[74:47]
Theo Von
Yeah. That's kind of, you know, the biggest Christmas Day. Only on Christmas you can see it.
[74:52]
Timothée Chalamet
Comes out on Christmas day.
[74:53]
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah. Biggest journey was the music and the voice. And also I've never had my phone off the entire movie.
[74:59]
Timothée Chalamet
I had three months off the whole movie.
[75:00]
Theo Von
Yeah. I had three months to play this guy and then the rest of my life I never get to play him again. So I just, I was. I was locked in. Also, you're never supposed to say you're competitive. But I want. You know, there's been a lot of music biopics.
[75:14]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[75:14]
Theo Von
And I wanted to do a great fucking job, man. I love Bob Dylan. I love this artist. None of this is for granted. This little misconception about actors too and acting. You can have a cushy job on a TV show if you don't give a fuck about your work. It could be a great lifestyle. Right. You're making like high six figures, maybe low seven figures. And you're just showing up and you want. If you give a fuck about what you're doing. These are. These are long ass days. You know what I mean? These are 14 hour days. Six days a week sometimes, you know, three months. Look, I know, I know people got it way harder, but I want to feel that grit, you know, I want to feel it, you know, I hope people don't laugh at it. I fucking really. I feel like I'm the hardest working man anyway. Maybe I shouldn't say that. But.
[75:52]
Timothée Chalamet
But you respect what you do.
[75:54]
Theo Von
Yeah. Because you got to. What else is the point? I talk about this friends a lot. Like this is too weird a lifestyle.
[76:00]
Timothée Chalamet
To be nonchalant about.
[76:02]
Theo Von
Yeah. Why do this?
[76:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[76:05]
Theo Von
If you're not going to go as hard as possible.
[76:07]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[76:07]
Theo Von
On Marty Supreme. I'm wearing contacts because he wanted my eyes to be little. So he gives me real glasses that fuck my eyes up. And I'm wearing contacts underneath to offset what the glasses are doing. And my vision was. My vision was basically up until a day ago, every time I took these glasses off my. My vision was skewed.
[76:26]
Timothée Chalamet
Wow.
[76:26]
Theo Von
You know you like the Forrest Gump.
[76:29]
Timothée Chalamet
Of sight or whatever?
[76:30]
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right. Sort of.
[76:32]
Timothée Chalamet
Dude.
[76:33]
Theo Von
Forrest Gump is. We had the Forrest Gump ping pong coaches. Same Lovely couple in LA. Diego and Way been married 40 years. Way is a Chinese ping pong champion. Yeah, yeah. From the 80s.
[76:42]
Timothée Chalamet
She pretty cool.
[76:43]
Theo Von
She was. She's like. We would train. Yeah. Way, Way Lee. There she is. There she is.
[76:49]
Timothée Chalamet
Marty Supreme.
[76:50]
Theo Von
That's my Ping pong coach. You know, we train for three hours and then she say, let's play for real. And she's like. She's probably like 97 pounds. She's like five foot one, and she's just like. Yeah. Unbelievable. You're not getting a point across. Yeah. Yeah.
[77:02]
Timothée Chalamet
That's beautiful.
[77:03]
Theo Von
A little bit of that.
[77:04]
Timothée Chalamet
Do you. Yeah. Did you have to. So your phone was off for that long, so you just locked in and what would you do? Just go to. Do you sleep on set or what do you do? What's that like?
[77:12]
Theo Von
I didn't sleep on set. And, you know, method acting that gets like a bad rap. People think it's just like a person being a prick and obliging everyone around them to subscribe to a reality that's not real. The. The thing I came up with, I call it.
[77:22]
Timothée Chalamet
Dude, that's just everybody's stepdad as well.
[77:25]
Theo Von
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
[77:29]
Timothée Chalamet
And you.
[77:30]
Theo Von
Yeah. And. Yeah.
[77:31]
Timothée Chalamet
Damn it.
[77:32]
Theo Von
Give me that goddamn Miller Light. But. But, dude, I call it. I call it method energy. Because, you know, you. You know, you on me too, if I'm coming off like a dick. But, you know, I just tried to. No cell phones, nothing that reminds you of the present. And try to treat it like Bob Dylan as much as possible. Especially you're playing somebody that iconic. That was tough, too. He didn't feel like an icon when he was himself. He was just living his life. So if you talk to too many people that you gotta avoid earworms.
[78:03]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, somebody putting something. Your head. That's. That stays in there.
[78:05]
Theo Von
Yeah. That's why Edward Norton, I love him. He's great. Pizza in the movie, but he's like. Edward Norton is a little bit his character in the movie Birdman, if you ever saw that. He's like a very confident, opinionated actor. So I would kind of have to, you know. And then he caught me watching Rounders one day.
[78:20]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh. Yeah.
[78:21]
Theo Von
And then he. Then. Then it was over. Then he knew he had me.
[78:23]
Timothée Chalamet
That's like.
[78:24]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[78:24]
Timothée Chalamet
If watching another movie that some guys.
[78:27]
Theo Von
Oh, you like Rounders? And I was like, all right, now. Now we're gonna talk.
[78:31]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, hold me for a second. Huh?
[78:33]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[78:33]
Timothée Chalamet
That's a lot.
[78:34]
Theo Von
Yeah. I'm still jumping on you at the end of this. This. Okay, get ready.
[78:37]
Timothée Chalamet
As long as it's on the front, brother.
[78:39]
Theo Von
Yeah. Get ready, get ready.
[78:40]
Timothée Chalamet
Calm down, man.
[78:41]
Theo Von
Get ready, get ready.
[78:42]
Timothée Chalamet
Just get a little too Hollywood for.
[78:44]
Theo Von
I'm getting you out your comfort zone.
[78:46]
Timothée Chalamet
I've been out of my comfort zone since I was born.
[78:49]
Theo Von
All right, fair, fair, fair.
[78:51]
Timothée Chalamet
I. Yeah, I never subscribed to it. I never. Or I never got the keys or whatever. You know the code they give you in high school to your locker.
[78:56]
Theo Von
Yeah. You never got that.
[78:57]
Timothée Chalamet
I remember going up to my comfort zone and being like, oh, I don't.
[78:59]
Theo Von
Think this is most comfortable you've ever felt in your life.
[79:01]
Timothée Chalamet
What's a great question.
[79:02]
Theo Von
The most comfortable, like, most in your body. No drugs, no alcohol.
[79:07]
Timothée Chalamet
Probably after like a sauna and ice bath type type.
[79:09]
Theo Von
Oh, you do ice baths?
[79:10]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, yeah. I'll get in there, dude. I'll. Oh, yeah, I'll freaking just. I'll lay in a polar bear's ass, brother. I like it. I like it like that.
[79:18]
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
[79:19]
Timothée Chalamet
I like it just brisk like that, you know? I love that.
[79:22]
Theo Von
Would you go to the Arctic?
[79:23]
Timothée Chalamet
Oh, yeah, I would go up there. Mr. Beast just went up there. He went to Antarctica.
[79:27]
Theo Von
Whoa.
[79:28]
Timothée Chalamet
I don't know what he. But he said it was nothing up there. There's not even like, you can't be like, hey, let's go somewhere and like, no, you can't.
[79:34]
Theo Von
I don't get how that stuff works, man. Where's he get. Where does he get the money?
[79:37]
Timothée Chalamet
He's just.
[79:38]
Theo Von
He's just huge. Huh.
[79:39]
Timothée Chalamet
I guess he just has a lot of just expendable income to be that guy, you know, that's the other thing.
[79:44]
Theo Von
Like, where I want to be humble about putting movies out there. People's attention are elsewhere. Is elsewhere now. It's really. Yeah. And you gotta convince someone to see a complete unknown on Christmas day and take the $15 or 20, wherever the fuck it is now. And instead of watching, you know, Mr. Beast in the Arctic.
[80:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Well, Mr. Beast has a show actually that comes out right before that if like a week before. But. But he was just. We're just on the other day and it's interesting.
[80:08]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah.
[80:08]
Timothée Chalamet
And it's an interesting show. Totally different, though. But one thing that's great about your movie is that, first of all, you just get. You also just. In addition to whatever's going on with the movie, you get to hear, like, great music. Yeah, it's great music.
[80:19]
Theo Von
Great, great music.
[80:20]
Timothée Chalamet
It's great music. You get to remember, like, Woody Guthrie, who played Woody Guthrie in it.
[80:25]
Theo Von
Scoot McNary. He's amazing. Yeah, he's amazing.
[80:28]
Timothée Chalamet
McNary. He'll look at him before something happens to him.
[80:31]
Theo Von
Yeah. And he. And he doesn't have a line in the movie. He doesn't have a line because he's. Because he's so sick. Because he's so sick.
[80:39]
Timothée Chalamet
That was pretty awesome. Yeah, we had Bernie Sanders on and he was saying that. He said Pete Seeger was one of his favorite music.
[80:44]
Theo Von
Scoot McNary could play Bernie Sanders in a biopic. Oh, right. Yeah, totally could.
[80:48]
Timothée Chalamet
Dude. You could play Ronald Reagan, son. Ricky Reagan or whatever.
[80:51]
Theo Von
Is that a real guy? Is that a real guy?
[80:53]
Timothée Chalamet
Probably, dude.
[80:54]
Theo Von
Bernie. Bernie hasn't aged.
[80:55]
Timothée Chalamet
Nah. Bernie still looks the same. He's the best.
[80:57]
Theo Von
He looks the same in the last. Yeah, he's like a real folk hero to great point. Yeah, Bernie is, is.
[81:04]
Timothée Chalamet
He is a folk hero.
[81:05]
Theo Von
Yeah, he's folk music.
[81:06]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. And you also forget about, like, what. Yeah, I mean, that's another thing about the movie. You see the challenge of Bob Dylan, like, take on like music and culture. There's this whole other cultural thing that's kind of happening in the background, like on the television and the news during the movie.
[81:18]
Theo Von
It was a crazy time. It was like the.
[81:20]
Timothée Chalamet
It was the cool piece of life.
[81:21]
Theo Von
It was a cool piece of life. The 60s were a cool time when.
[81:24]
Timothée Chalamet
You get out of it all and it's done.
[81:25]
Theo Von
I was beat on this one.
[81:27]
Timothée Chalamet
Were you?
[81:27]
Theo Von
Yeah.
[81:28]
Timothée Chalamet
What does that really look like? A break? Do you go to like a beach and it's.
[81:30]
Theo Von
No, another thing, another misconception about movies. Like, as opposed to the academic year, it kind of winds down. You're never winding down a movie. You're doing 14 hour days and you go off a cliff, then it's done, you know, in other words, you know, you know, you don't relax towards the, towards the end. Like it's, you know, we were doing a very important scene and it was done forever, you know, and yeah, I guess I relaxed a little bit. I went on vacation, but I was beat. I've been working. I was working on this for five years. This was like, this was like. This was as important to me as you going to the parking lot and spying on the, on the, on the swim team of Lipscomb College.
[82:01]
Timothée Chalamet
Nothing to see here.
[82:03]
Theo Von
Exactly. I'm just recruiting guys, recruiting production assistants. But. But do you.
[82:10]
Timothée Chalamet
So it was. Do you think you would have done it more justice five years early?
[82:14]
Theo Von
No, absolutely not. Also because I had the experience in my life where I would do interviews and, you know, it's a scary time to come up with the Internet and stuff. You know, you want to get it right. And Bob Dylan, his early press conferences, he was confrontational. He was basically a dick. And I thought there was something really inspiring about that. Not. Not That I ever wanted to be like that, but I just thought it was so different than how people are now.
[82:35]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[82:36]
Theo Von
Were you. Were you Right.
[82:37]
Timothée Chalamet
You're just automatically cordial. You just assume like, well, you got to be man.
[82:40]
Theo Von
A. A, I am. I'm not a cordial guy. Yeah. But B, God forbid, you know, you don't want to be anyway, so. But he's. These early press conferences. Oh, you know, if. If you're tremendously bored and not watching Mr. B stuff, watch the early Bob Dylan, San Francisco press conferences, you know, And I just thought. So anyway, five years working on it, I got a better sense on the other side of it. Oh, this is why he would have carried himself like that. You know, he had some wherewithal I didn't have in his early 20s where somebody said, how do you do it? It. He goes, basically, didn't want to tell anyone, you know, me, maybe, because whatever. The acting bone, somebody says, how do you do it? And you. You. You're so desperate for that pat on your back, and you go, this is how I did it.
[83:18]
Timothée Chalamet
You know?
[83:18]
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[83:20]
Timothée Chalamet
I just wonder. Yeah, because. And you get more experience that you can put into something. Like you were saying earlier about acting, like you can keep doing it for a long time, you know?
[83:26]
Theo Von
Exactly.
[83:28]
Timothée Chalamet
Yo, can we hear any Bob? Is that a weird thing to ask you? Dude? Is that lame?
[83:32]
Theo Von
Like. Like live right now?
[83:33]
Timothée Chalamet
Okay, I'll try it.
[83:34]
Theo Von
Go for it.
[83:34]
Timothée Chalamet
All right, hold on. Let me try one more time. Hey, who is there? Hold on, I gotta give.
[83:47]
Theo Von
Get into it, man. Get into it.
[83:49]
Timothée Chalamet
Hey, who's at the door? That's hot. That's.
[83:52]
Theo Von
That was pretty good. You got the nasality down. You got the nasality.
[83:56]
Timothée Chalamet
Make up a word. You're verbifying things. And that's what Bob Dylan did. Exactly.
[84:00]
Theo Von
Just made up. Up. That was good, man.
[84:01]
Timothée Chalamet
He verified things, didn't he?
[84:03]
Theo Von
I don't think. I'm trying to think who your music biopic would be. Still.
[84:07]
Timothée Chalamet
It might have to be.
[84:08]
Theo Von
What about Chet Baker?
[84:09]
Timothée Chalamet
I would do Chet Baker.
[84:11]
Theo Von
Chet Baker or Chet Hanks, even Biopic, dude. That would be unbelievable. That's a. That's a glitch in the system.
[84:21]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, it's all. Everything is.
[84:23]
Theo Von
Yeah, everything's a glitch, dude.
[84:24]
Timothée Chalamet
Jon Bon Jovi. It could be anybody. Chet has a new country album that's going to come out this year, too, I think. Or next year.
[84:29]
Theo Von
Dude, you got to play chat also. It'd be a great excuse to get shredded now.
[84:32]
Timothée Chalamet
That would be. I would just do it for the head.
[84:34]
Theo Von
Just do it for that. They'll set you up. The best trainers you got. The hgh.
[84:38]
Timothée Chalamet
I could do it, man. I'm trying to think of if there's anything else that we want to ask or anything else that you wanted to say, Timothy.
[84:44]
Theo Von
Ah, man, no.
[84:45]
Timothée Chalamet
Just.
[84:45]
Theo Von
Thanks for having me on. I'm trying to think.
[84:48]
Timothée Chalamet
I think we kind of covered a lot of.
[84:49]
Theo Von
We covered it all, man.
[84:51]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah. I got to water my plants, dude. I just got home.
[84:53]
Theo Von
Well, you have a place in la?
[84:54]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah, I still have apartment.
[84:55]
Theo Von
Oh, you do? Is it here?
[84:56]
Timothée Chalamet
Over in Westwood?
[84:57]
Theo Von
In Westwood. All right. I love Westwood.
[84:59]
Timothée Chalamet
And so, yeah, Diddy Reese. And I forget. Yeah, I go over there sometimes. I go walk over there, and sometimes I would go for that, and I would just end up getting a bunch of vapes and just sitting over my car. But I. Yeah, I would get. I just. Sometimes I forget to wash my plant. What? I forget to water my plants, you know? And then I get home and it's been like a month or something.
[85:16]
Theo Von
Your place is ready to be wifified, man.
[85:19]
Timothée Chalamet
I know. And I always water them. I'll be like, your mother. Your mother left us. I'll yell like that. I'll be like, your mother left to who? To the plants. I'll just make. I'll, like, blame it on their, like, imaginary mother or whatever. I'm like, we would have been fine, but they're. She left, and I'm just pouring water on punishment.
[85:34]
Theo Von
It's the water.
[85:35]
Timothée Chalamet
No, the water is there. I'm giving them the water. But it would have. They'd have been watered every day if their mother.
[85:39]
Theo Von
Oh, if their mother had left. So you're bringing out the resentment on the plants.
[85:43]
Timothée Chalamet
She left us anyway.
[85:45]
Theo Von
Who's the mother? Poison ivy.
[85:46]
Timothée Chalamet
It's just. It's just a fictional woman.
[85:48]
Theo Von
It's a fictional woman.
[85:48]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[85:49]
Theo Von
I feel like the next time we talk, if you have me back on, I feel like you're going to be a year and a half into a beautiful marriage and a recent father and you'll have a Subaru.
[86:09]
Timothée Chalamet
Ooh. But I'll take. You know, what if the family comes with that, and that's what it takes. I'll do it. You know, I'll do that. And. And I appreciate it. Timothy Chalamet. Thanks for all the neat acting, man. Thanks for that. Thanks for the movie about the draw, about the young man struggling with drugs. Thanks for the movie about Bob Dylan, and just thanks for sharing, like, what it takes, the commitment that it does take, because I do feel that from you. I appreciate that. I do feel that the commitment that it really takes, if you really want to take this opportunity and make the most of it in your life, you.
[86:37]
Theo Von
Know exactly like you're doing and I see you doing, you know. You know. So you just got to go hard.
[86:43]
Timothée Chalamet
Amen, brother. Christmas day, the movie comes out. You can go watch it in the theaters with your family over the holidays.
[86:49]
Theo Von
Perfect. Perfect.
[86:50]
Timothée Chalamet
Yeah.
[86:50]
Theo Von
It'll be in theaters on Christmas day. A complete unknown. Super proud of this man.
[86:56]
Timothée Chalamet
You should be, man. Congratulations.
[86:58]
Theo Von
Thanks. Let me talk about it, bro. Yep.
[87:01]
Timothée Chalamet
That was fun, man.
[87:02]
Theo Von
Thank you, man. Holy. That wasn't as grounded.
[87:05]
Timothée Chalamet
Sorry.
[87:05]
Theo Von
Yeah. That's front side on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's going to take.