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Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Mike Wilson, Morgan Stanley CIO and chief U.S. equity strategist. Today on the podcast I'll be discussing why the balance between the upside and the downside is actually better than at the start of the year. It's Monday, March 30th at 11:30am in New York. So let's get after it. Everyone I've been speaking with lately is focused on the same things the conflict in Iran, oil prices, and of course AI. Whether it's CapEx, disruption of labor markets or efficiency, when I look at how markets are trading, I come away with a different conclusion than the consensus. First, the US Equity market is far less complacent about growth risks than people think. Consider this more than half of the Russell 3000 stocks are down at least 20% from their highs, while the S&P 500's price earnings multiple is down 17%. That's not complacency, that's a well advanced correction consistent with prior growth scares, if not an outright recession. Second, let's talk about oil, everyone's top concern. Historically, oil spikes have often ended business cycles. However, recessions only occurred when earnings growth was decelerating or outright negative. Today it's accelerating and running close to 14% while forward earnings growth is north of 20%. Meanwhile, the magnitude of the oil move on a year over year basis is only about half what we saw in the recession outcomes. In other words, the market isn't pricing in a recession because the odds of that happening appear low. Instead, we believe it's pricing in continued uncertainty about oil and other key resources until there is ultimately a resolution where tanker flows resume and prices stabilize or come back down. From my observations, I think interest rates are weighing more heavily on US stocks rather than oil. Specifically, the correlation between equities and yields has flipped deeply. Negative stocks are extremely sensitive to moves and higher yields more so than they've been in many years. This is mainly due to the recent hawkish pivot by the Fed and other central banks. As a result, we're Also approaching the 4.5% level on 10 year treasury yields, a point where we typically observe further equity valuation compression. Finally, bond volatility is also rising, and equity valuations are always sensitive to that. The good news is that the Fed is more sensitive to bond than stock volatility, and any further rise could likely lead to a Fed pivot back to a more dovish stance. In short, the tightening in financial conditions driven by rates and bond volatility is the bigger near term risk. Not the geopolitical backdrop. Ironically, it's also what could provide relief at the end of the day. I still think we're getting closer to the end of this correction, and when I look out to the next six or 12 months, the risk reward looks better today than it did at the start of the year. On the positioning side, I'm also seeing some interesting shifts. Defensive stocks and gold had a strong run from early January right up until tensions in the Middle east began at the end of February, but they have underperformed significantly since. Meanwhile, some of the better performing sectors recently have been the more cyclical ones. That tells me the market got ahead of these concerns and may be ready to look past it sooner than most investors. As for AI, there's still a lot of focus on disruption, but I think the near term story is more about efficiency and margin expansion. We're not seeing a demand shock that would trigger a traditional labor cycle. Instead, we're seeing companies use AI to right size, costs and improve productivity. Bottom line, the market has already done a lot of the heavy lifting of this correction by discounting the war, higher oil prices, AI and credit risks. What it's wrestling with now is the risk of a monetary policy mistake with central banks staying too tight for too long. If that hawkish bent starts to ease, which it probably will if bond volatility rises much further, the resumption of the bull market is likely to arrive faster than most expect. Thanks for tuning in. I hope you found it informative and useful. Let us know what you think by leaving us a review, and if you find thoughts on the market worthwhile, tell a friend or colleague to try it out.
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Host: Mike Wilson, Morgan Stanley CIO and Chief U.S. Equity Strategist
Date: March 30, 2026
Mike Wilson takes a focused look at market dynamics amid global tensions, rising oil prices, and the ongoing impact of AI. Rather than subscribing to pessimistic consensus, Wilson articulates why risk-reward in US equities is better balanced now than at the start of the year, and why a bull market could return sooner than expected. The commentary weaves together current sector performance, the influence of interest rates and monetary policy, and the constructive potential of AI efficiency gains.
On Market Correction:
"That's not complacency, that's a well advanced correction... consistent with prior growth scares, if not an outright recession.” — Mike Wilson (00:45)
On Growth and Oil:
"Today it's accelerating and running close to 14% while forward earnings growth is north of 20%.” — Mike Wilson (01:22)
On the Real Risk:
"The tightening in financial conditions driven by rates and bond volatility is the bigger near term risk. Not the geopolitical backdrop.” — Mike Wilson (02:55)
On Sector Rotation:
"Cyclical sectors' recent outperformance tells me the market got ahead of these concerns and may be ready to look past it sooner than most investors." — Mike Wilson (03:32)
On AI’s Current Impact:
"We're seeing companies use AI to right size, costs and improve productivity.” — Mike Wilson (03:49)
On the Bull Market Outlook:
"The resumption of the bull market is likely to arrive faster than most expect.” — Mike Wilson (04:12)
Mike Wilson’s analysis argues that markets have already priced in many major risks, shifting the key variable to central bank policy and rates. While geopolitical uncertainty is high, the market structure and sector performance indicate potential for recovery, especially if the Fed is nudged by bond volatility. With AI boosting efficiency and corporate margins, the next bull market might be closer than prevailing sentiment suggests.