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Welcome to Thoughts in the Market. I'm Andrew Sheats, Global Head of Fixed Income Research at Morgan Stanley. Today, what can Odysseus teach us about Investing? It's Friday, July 24th at 2pm in London. Like many of you this week, I saw the Odyssey. The enduring appeal of this story, more than 2,700 years after it was composed, is a reminder that some themes are universal. Pride, resourcefulness, determination, self control, or the lack thereof matter to both an ancient Greek dinner party and resonate with anybody investing today. But drawing lessons from the past is also tricky. We do not have that much financial history and markets contain too many variables for the same combination to align twice. Some judgment art and dare we say storytelling is always involved in deciding which historical periods best describe the present. Those disclaimers aside, we've argued in our Year ahead outlook that 1997 to 1998 and 2005 to 2006 are some of the most useful templates for the current backdrop that remains our view. They suggest a cycle that has further to run equities outperforming credit and a preference to own volatility. Both of these periods were defined by a sharp rise in corporate activity that is certainly what we're seeing today. We forecast US capital expenditure to rise 23% in 2026 and 26% in 2027. AI is the biggest driver of this spending, but build outs in energy infrastructure are also playing a role. An increased corporate capex is certainly a global story, especially in Asia. Then there's MA, which also rose significantly in these two past historical periods. As recently as early 2024, global MA volumes were unusually depressed, some of the lowest levels in over 30 years, adjusted for economic size. But that's no longer the case and more recently MA is currently running up 64% relative to a year ago. Important current macroeconomic data also looks somewhat similar to these past two periods. The current levels of US core PCE inflation, the unemployment rate and the 10 year yield are pretty close to the averages seen in 1997, 1998, 2005 and 2006. And the US 2's 10's yield curve. Well, it broadly flattened then and it has broadly been flattening today. A third similarity, maybe less obvious but no less important, is deregulation. Both 1997 and 1998 and 2005 to 2006 saw significant financial deregulation, and we're seeing that again now. From the Basel endgame to NIC risk weights to solvency 2 changes to savings reforms in Europe, Korea and elsewhere, the current trend appears to be on a firmly deregulatory path. Even more simply, 1997 and 1998 and 2005 to 2006 provide interesting narrative bookends to two ways that I often hear the current environment being described. The late 90s? Well, that was defined by rising excitement around a transformational new technology, then the Internet and the prospect of a more productive future. Sound familiar? And the mid-2000s? Well, that was defined by a very unequal economy and rising consumer stress, but growth that was still supported by a seemingly inexhaustible investment demand from a rising market force. Then that force was emerging markets. Today it's AI. Again, somewhat familiar. If these periods serve as a guide, the cycle probably has further to run and corporate aggression should favor equities over credit. But if we learn anything from the trials of Odysseus, the journey can throw up plenty of surprises along the way. Thank you as always for your time. If you find thoughts of the market useful, let us know by leaving a review wherever you listen and also tell a friend or colleague about us today.
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Host: Andrew Sheats, Global Head of Fixed Income Research, Morgan Stanley
Date: July 24, 2026
In this episode, Andrew Sheats draws parallels between the ancient tale of Odysseus’s journey and the current state of the financial markets. He explores the lessons investors can learn from history—both mythological and market-related—arguing that selective periods from the past, such as 1997-98 and 2005-06, offer valuable templates for interpreting today’s environment. The episode blends storytelling with market analysis, highlighting recent trends in corporate spending, M&A, macroeconomic indicators, and deregulation.
Andrew Sheats wraps up by reminding listeners that—like Odysseus—investors should expect surprises on the journey. Historical insight is valuable, but navigation requires judgment, adaptability, and a dose of humility.