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Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Mike Wilson, Morgan Stanley CIO and chief U.S. equity strategist. Today on the podcast, I'll be discussing why equity investors sometimes need to look away from the headlines. It's Monday, April 13th at 11:30am in New York, so let's get after it. Today I want to talk about something I think a lot of investors are struggling with right now, and that's timing. When I talk to people, markets still feel fragile. To most there's uncertainty around geopolitics, central banks, oil, you name it. But when I look at what the market is actually doing, not what it feels like, but what it's telling us, I come away with a very different conclusion. The market is further along than most people think in this correction. In fact, over the past couple of weeks, we've seen the S&P 500 bounce meaningfully almost 7% from the lows after holding that critical 6300 to 6500 range that we've been focused on. To me, that's not random. That's the market carving out a low ahead of an all clear signal and stepping back. My broader view hasn't changed. I still think we're in a new bull market that began last April, coming out of that rolling recession between 2022 and 2025. This correction is part of that cycle, not the end of it. And importantly, a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done. Valuations have compressed significantly. Forward price earnings multiples have fallen about 18% from top to bottom and beneath the surface, more than half the stocks are down 20% or more. That's a market that's already discounted a lot of risk, whether it's the war, private credit concerns or AI disruption. At the same time, earnings are moving in the opposite direction. Trailing earnings growth is running around 15% and forward earnings growth is up over 20%. That combination of falling multiples and rising earnings is a classic bull market correction behavior, not a bear market. And that's why I think many are misreading this environment. One area where I think that's especially clear is energy. If you look at the price action, energy stocks appear to have already peaked. In relative terms, that's often a signal that the underlying commodity has in this case, oil may have already peaked as well, or at least it's stabilizing. Which brings me to what I think is really driving volatility now, interest rates. We're back in a regime where stocks and yields are negatively correlated. That means higher rates are a headwind for EQUITIES again. And the recent hawkish tone from central banks that's focused on inflation is creating tighter financial conditions. In my view, that's the final hurdle. Not the war, not oil, but monetary policy. And here's the interesting part. Tightening financial conditions are also what ultimately force central banks to pivot. So the very thing creating anxiety today may be what sets up relief tomorrow. Now, if we're in the later stages of this correction, the next question is positioning. For me, it's still about a barbell. On one side, I like cyclicals like financials, industrials and consumer discretionary stocks, where the earnings remain strong and valuations have reset. On the other side is quality growth, in particular the hyperscalers, where sentiment has been washed out but fundamentals remain intact. That combination has worked well at the lows so far, and I think it continues to make sense here. When I zoom out even further, there's a bigger theme developing as well, and that's the rebalancing of the economy, a core theme we discussed in our 2026 outlook back in November. We're starting to see hard evidence that growth is shifting from the public to the private economy. Private payrolls are strengthening, capital investment is picking up, and companies are behaving as if the current uncertainty is temporary, not structural. This is the rolling recovery on track. At the same time, AI is acting more as a margin tailwind than a disruption, at least in the near term, and this supports operating leverage across many industries. All of that reinforces my view that the recovery is real and still has room to run. So when I put it all together, here's where I land the market has already discounted a lot of bad news. It's adjusted valuations, reset positioning, and absorbed market risks. What risk remains is policy and how long Rates and liquidity stay restrictive. But markets don't wait for clarity on that. They move ahead of it. So here's my advice. Take advantage of any further worries and put capital to work before it's obvious, because the market waits for no one. Thanks for tuning in. I hope you found it informative and useful. Let us know what you think by leaving us a review, and if you find thoughts on the market worthwhile, tell a friend or colleague to try it out.
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Podcast: Thoughts on the Market
Host: Mike Wilson, CIO and Chief U.S. Equity Strategist, Morgan Stanley
Date: April 13, 2026
In this episode, Mike Wilson addresses the prevailing sense of market fragility and uncertainty, arguing that many investors are overlooking mounting evidence of a market rebound. He discusses why headline-driven anxiety could be blinding investors to actual market signals and urges a re-examination of current conditions, correction dynamics, sector outlooks, and positioning strategies.
The ongoing correction is seen as a natural phase within a new bull market that began in April 2025, following the "rolling recession" of 2022–2025.
Substantial valuation compression and significant price drops (over 20%) in more than half of stocks signal that much of the risk has already been priced in.
Trailing earnings growth is about 15%, with forward earnings tracking over 20% growth.
Wilson characterizes the current environment as classic bull market correction behavior: falling multiples combined with rising earnings.
The predominant driver of current volatility is monetary policy, specifically the hawkish stance of central banks as they aim to control inflation.
Quote [02:27]:
"We're back in a regime where stocks and yields are negatively correlated. That means higher rates are a headwind for equities again." — Mike Wilson
Wilson argues that tightening financial conditions will force central banks to pivot eventually, and the present policy-driven anxiety may set the stage for market relief ahead.
Cyclicals: Financials, industrials, and consumer discretionary stocks that have reset valuations and strong earnings.
Quality Growth: "Hyperscalers" and other growth stocks with washed-out sentiment but intact fundamentals.
Quote [03:11]:
"On one side, I like cyclicals ... On the other side is quality growth, in particular the hyperscalers, where sentiment has been washed out but fundamentals remain intact." — Mike Wilson
Cites evidence of a shift from public sector-driven to private sector-driven growth:
AI is currently bolstering margins rather than causing disruption, driving operating leverage and supporting the broader recovery.
Mike Wilson succinctly argues that although anxiety around rates, geopolitics, and commodities dominates headlines, the real story is a market that has already priced in much of the risk. Investors, he urges, should look beyond headline fears and consider that both the economic backdrop and market behavior point to the later stages of a correction and further recovery potential. Embrace a barbell investing approach—allocating to both cyclicals and quality growth—and act strategically before improvement becomes apparent to all. The market, says Wilson, “waits for no one.”