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A (0:00)
2025 started with an expectation of slower economic growth and stubborn inflation. While growth did cool, the real surprise was the disconnect between the economy and financial markets. Unemployment ran higher than projected, yet markets showed resilience powered largely by an AI driven capital spending boom. Looking ahead to 2026, the backdrop is brighter. Global growth should accelerate modestly, inflation should ease in the second half of the year, and real incomes look poised to improve. We expect the US to lead the charge and remain most constructive on the US market. Thank you for listening throughout 2025 as we've navigated these issues and events that shape financial markets and society. We hope that you'll join us next year as we continue to bring you the most up to date information on the financial world this week. Please enjoy some encores of episodes over the last few months and we'll be back with all new episodes in January from all of us at Thoughts in the Market, Happy holidays and a very happy new Year.
B (1:03)
Welcome to Thoughts in the Market. I'm Michael Zesas, Global Head of Fixed Income Research and Public Policy Strategy.
C (1:09)
And I'm Serena Tang, Morgan Stanley's Chief Global Cross Asset Strategist.
B (1:14)
Today we'll be talking about key investor debates coming out of our Year Ahead outlook. It's Wednesday, December 3rd at 10:30am in New York. So Serena, it was a couple weeks ago that you led the publication of our Cross Asset Outlook for 2026. You've been engaging with clients over the past few weeks about our views where they differ, and it seems there's some common themes, really common questions that come up that represent some important debates within the market. Is that fair?
C (1:49)
Yeah, that's very fair. And by the way, I think those important debates are are from investors globally. So you have investors in Europe, Asia, Australia, North America all kind of wanting to understand our views on AI, on equity valuations on the dollar.
B (2:09)
So let's start with talking about equity markets a bit. And one of the common questions, and I get it too, even though I don't cover equity markets, is really about how AI is affecting valuations. And one of the concerns is that the stock market might be too high, might be overvalued because people have overinvested in anything related to AI. What does the evidence say? How are you addressing that question?
C (2:37)
It's interesting you say that because I think when investors talk about equities being too high of valuations, AI related valuations being very stretched, it's very much about sort of parallels to that 1990s valuation bubble. But the way I Approach, it is like there are some very important differences from that time period from valuations back then. First of all, the companies in major equity indices are higher quality than the past. They operate more efficiently, they deliver strong profitability, and in general, pretty solid free cash flow. I think we also need to consider how technology now represents a larger share of the index, which has helped push overall net margins to about sort of 14% compared to 8% during that 1990s valuation bubble. And you know, when margins are higher, I think like paying premium for stocks is more justified. In other words, I think multiples in the US right now look more reasonable after adjusting for profit margins and changes in index composition. But we also have to consider, and this is something that we stress in our outlook, the policy backdrop is unusually favorable.
