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Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Eric Woodring, Morgan Stanley's Head of US IT Hardware Research. Here are some reflections I recorded last week at Morgan Stanley's Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in San francisco. It's Monday, March 10th at 9:00am in New York. This was another record year of attendance at our TMT conference and what is clear from speaking to investors is that the demand for new, under discovered or underappreciated ideas is higher than ever. In a stock picker's market like the one we have now, investors are really digging into themes and single name ideas. Big picture uncertainty was a key theme this week. Whether it's tariffs and the changing geopolitical landscape, market volatility or government spending, the level of relative uncertainty is elevated. That said, we are not hearing about a material change in demand for PCs, smartphones and other technology hardware. On the enterprise side of my coverage, we are emerging from one of the most prolonged down cycles in the last 10 plus years. And what we heard from several enterprise hardware vendors this week is an expectation that most enterprise hardware markets, PCs, servers and storage return to growth this year given pent up refresh demand. This despite the challenges of navigating the tariff situation which is resulting in most companies raising prices to mitigate higher input costs. On the consumer side of the world, the demand environment for more discretionary products like speakers, cameras, PCs and other endpoint devices looks a bit more challenged. The recent downtick in consumer sentiment is contributing to this environment, given the close correlation between sentiment and discretionary spending on consumer technology goods. Against this backdrop, the most dynamic topic of the conference remains generative AI. What I've been hearing is a confidence that new gen AI solutions can increasingly meet the emerging needs of market participants. They also continue to rapidly evolve and build momentum towards successful gen AI monetization. To this point, underlying infrastructure spending on servers, storage and other data center componentry to enable these emerging AI solutions remains robust. To put some numbers behind this, the 10 largest cloud vendors are spending upwards of $350 billion this year in CapEx, which is up over 30% year over year. Keep in mind, this is coming off the strongest year of growth on record in 2024. Early indications for 2026 capex spending still point to growth, albeit a deceleration from 2025, and what's even more compelling is that it's still early days. My fireside chats this week highlighted that AI infrastructure spending from the largest and most sophisticated customers is only in the second inning. While AI investments from enterprises down to small and mid sized businesses is only in the first inning or maybe even earlier. So there appears to be a long Runway ahead for AI infrastructure spending despite the volatility we have seen in AI infrastructure stocks which we see as an opportunity for investors. I'd highlight that amidst the elevated market uncertainty there is a prioritization on cost efficiencies and adopting Gen AI to drive these efficiencies. Company executives from some of the major players this week all discussed near term cost efficiency initiatives and we expect these efforts to both help protect the bottom line and drive productivity growth amidst a quickly changing market backdrop. Thanks for listening. If you enjoy the show, please leave us a review wherever you listen and share thoughts on the market with a friend or colleague today.
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Thoughts on the Market: Why Uncertainty Won't Slow AI Hardware Investment
Hosted by Morgan Stanley
Episode Release Date: March 10, 2025
Morgan Stanley's podcast, Thoughts on the Market, hosted by Eric Woodring, Head of US IT Hardware Research, delves into the resilience of AI hardware investments amidst prevailing market uncertainties. Drawing insights from the recent Technology, Media, and Telecom (TMT) Conference in San Francisco, Woodring provides a comprehensive analysis of current market dynamics, enterprise and consumer hardware demands, and the burgeoning field of generative AI.
Eric Woodring opens the episode by reflecting on the remarkable turnout at Morgan Stanley's TMT Conference in San Francisco. With attendance reaching record numbers, it's evident that investors are increasingly seeking underappreciated and novel investment opportunities.
"[...] the demand for new, under discovered or underappreciated ideas is higher than ever." [00:45]
This surge in interest underscores a pivotal shift in investor behavior, transitioning towards thematic and single-name stock picks in a landscape where traditional broad-based strategies may be less effective.
Despite the enthusiasm for innovative investments, the market is grappling with heightened uncertainty driven by various factors:
Geopolitical Tensions and Tariffs: Ongoing geopolitical shifts and tariff implementations are introducing volatility, affecting global supply chains and cost structures.
Market Volatility: Increased unpredictability in market movements is making it challenging for investors to maintain steady growth trajectories.
Government Spending Fluctuations: Variations in government expenditures add another layer of complexity to the economic outlook.
"Big picture uncertainty was a key theme this week. [...] the level of relative uncertainty is elevated." [01:15]
However, Woodring emphasizes that these uncertainties have not yet translated into a significant decline in the demand for essential technology hardware such as PCs and smartphones.
On the enterprise front, the outlook appears optimistic as the sector emerges from one of its longest down cycles in over a decade. Several enterprise hardware vendors project a return to growth in key areas:
PCs, Servers, and Storage: These segments are expected to experience revitalized demand, driven by pent-up refresh needs.
Price Adjustments Amid Tariff Pressures: To counteract increased input costs from tariffs, companies are strategically raising prices, which is anticipated to stabilize revenue streams despite cost challenges.
"We are emerging from one of the most prolonged down cycles in the last 10 plus years. [...] most enterprise hardware markets, PCs, servers and storage return to growth this year given pent up refresh demand." [01:40]
In contrast to the enterprise sector, consumer technology products are encountering more significant challenges. Categories such as speakers, cameras, and discretionary endpoint devices are experiencing subdued demand.
Consumer Sentiment Decline: A recent downturn in consumer confidence is directly impacting spending on non-essential technology goods.
Correlation Between Sentiment and Spending: The close link between consumer sentiment and discretionary spending highlights the vulnerability of this segment to economic fluctuations.
"The demand environment for more discretionary products like speakers, cameras, PCs and other endpoint devices looks a bit more challenged." [02:10]
Amidst the broader market uncertainties, generative AI emerged as the standout topic of the conference, capturing the collective interest with its transformative potential.
Meeting Emerging Needs: There is widespread confidence that next-generation AI solutions are increasingly capable of addressing the evolving requirements of market participants.
Monetization Momentum: Generative AI continues to gain traction, with significant progress in monetizing these technologies, thereby driving further investment.
"The most dynamic topic of the conference remains generative AI. [...] new gen AI solutions can increasingly meet the emerging needs of market participants." [02:30]
A critical enabler of generative AI's growth is the sustained investment in AI infrastructure. Woodring provides compelling data to illustrate this trend:
Cloud Vendor Capital Expenditure: The top ten cloud providers are projected to spend over $350 billion on capital expenditures (CapEx) in 2025, marking a 30% increase year-over-year.
Long-Term Growth Outlook: Although growth in CapEx is expected to decelerate in 2026, the overall trajectory remains upward, indicating continued investment momentum.
Early Stages of AI Investment: Current spending is likened to the "second inning" for large enterprises and possibly the "first inning" for small and mid-sized businesses (SMBs), suggesting substantial growth potential ahead.
"The 10 largest cloud vendors are spending upwards of $350 billion this year in CapEx, which is up over 30% year over year." [02:55]
"AI infrastructure spending from the largest and most sophisticated customers is only in the second inning. [...] AI investments from enterprises down to small and mid sized businesses is only in the first inning or maybe even earlier." [03:15]
Despite the volatility observed in AI infrastructure stocks, Woodring views this as a fertile opportunity for investors. The enduring demand and long runway for AI hardware investment present a compelling case for capitalizing on market fluctuations.
"So there appears to be a long Runway ahead for AI infrastructure spending despite the volatility we have seen in AI infrastructure stocks which we see as an opportunity for investors." [03:25]
In the face of elevated market uncertainties, many companies are prioritizing cost-efficiency initiatives. Generative AI plays a pivotal role in driving these efficiencies, aiding companies in preserving profitability and enhancing productivity.
Executive Focus on Cost Control: Company leaders are actively engaging in initiatives aimed at reducing costs, leveraging AI technologies to streamline operations.
Balancing Efficiency and Growth: These efforts are expected to safeguard the bottom line while simultaneously fostering productivity gains in a rapidly evolving market environment.
"There is a prioritization on cost efficiencies and adopting Gen AI to drive these efficiencies. Company executives from some of the major players this week all discussed near term cost efficiency initiatives and we expect these efforts to both help protect the bottom line and drive productivity growth amidst a quickly changing market backdrop." [03:40]
Eric Woodring's insightful analysis underscores the resilience and growth potential of AI hardware investments, even amidst significant market uncertainties. While enterprise hardware markets signal a return to growth, consumer segments face challenges tied to declining sentiment. Nevertheless, the burgeoning field of generative AI, supported by robust infrastructure spending, presents substantial opportunities for investors willing to navigate the associated volatilities. Additionally, the strategic adoption of generative AI for cost efficiencies positions companies to thrive in a dynamic economic landscape.
For those interested in gaining a deeper understanding of market trends and investment opportunities, Thoughts on the Market by Morgan Stanley offers valuable perspectives and expert analysis.