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Welcome to Through Thick and Skin, a podcast about two sisters in business together on a mission to demystify skincare and aesthetic medicine, your online resource for unfiltered truth in a very filtered world. Where are your hosts, Erin Jensen and Megan Pattison? You might know us from Instagram, where our business, the Treatment Skin Boutique, has garnered followers through the ever popular Mondays with Megan story series for offering insight on skincare and treatments in an easy to understand, candid way. Backed by the expertise of aesthetic PA expert injector national trainer and brand builder Aaron Jensen. We are here to drop knowledge cutting out the while making you laugh along the way.
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Welcome to Through Thick and Skin podcast. I'm your host, Aaron Jensen.
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And I'm Megan Pattison.
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And we are on Episode number 37.
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Yes.
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Still in the laundry room.
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I know.
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This is actually my new office. Ish.
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That's. It's nice. It has a little area. It's some great natural light.
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Yes, it is nice. One day we'll have a podcasting studio.
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Right? I know. Our podcast engineer, Sean, when he came into the new spot, was like, oh, we got like insulation, like sound.
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We're not that level.
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That's like Joe Rogan level where we have like, you know, full blown, like insulations and cooling systems that don't make noise.
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I saw you move to Austin.
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Oh, really? That's such a Joe Rogan move. Yeah, he move out of California.
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Yeah, he moved out of California. Have you listened to his Kanye episode yet?
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No, I heard it was boring.
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It's three hours long.
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That all of his podcasts were like at least two hours.
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I know they are long.
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And also I just get. I mean, I start getting bored. I'll put him on when I'm like taking a long walk. And then I'm like, yeah. And also I can't. His ads are super long. He talks about a razor or something that he uses for like eight minutes. So anyways.
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Well, they probably pay him good. Or he owns a company or something. Exactly. Oh, gosh.
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Exactly. So, yeah, so we're here in Claremont still. Tents are down.
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Yes, A few weeks. Well, last week when you hear this episode will be like two or three weeks ago. I'm just. I'm very frustrated with California. I can see why. I'm okay. I don't want to like treatment Austin, you know, I love Austin. I think it is so cute. The Texas laws. It is very difficult to open up med spas in Texas from what I've heard.
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Also, you know, private jet rides to Texas. It's Close longer.
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Two or three hours versus, like, Vegas or something. That's true. Yeah.
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Well, because, yeah, Nevada and Texas, like, business wise, you know, they want. They want to. They. They're like, come on down.
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You. They.
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Oh, yeah. I worked for a company where the state of Nevada gave they. The man I worked for a million dollars to move his company from California to Nevada.
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Damn.
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Yeah, I'm at the. I'm at the government.
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Think about that. Yeah. Because right now in California, we have this colored tier system, and we weren't supposed to be able to open inside until we got to the red tier. We're currently in the purple tier. But what did they do last week? They just changed the rules in the purple tier so, like, now you can open up. So I'm like, these tears don't mean shit anymore. Like, it doesn't mean anything.
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So for people who don't realize we had straight up, like, tents, like party
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tents in our front yard are the rules where we had to perform esthetician services outdoors if the county we were located in was in the purple tier, which honestly, like, made no sense. Like, how is doing a facial outdoors safer than indoors in a controlled environment with HEPA air purification systems where you can super sanitize everything and keep everyone separate? I don't know, but whatever. That was their rules. Do you know how much those tents, those rentals cost us a month?
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$3,000 times four. Shut up.
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$12,000 a month.
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You're stupid.
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I'm just kidding. Right?
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No, you're not. And you. I know you guys. I'm just saying that because I'm her sister. Yeah, I think it's brill. Because guess what? You're willing to go to any lengths to keep your estheticians employed.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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You know what I mean?
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And we even asked them, like, do you just want to stay home? And none of them said yes.
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No. And also, you put money in that rental company's pocket because they're not doing as many weddings, they're not doing as many fam. Like, school functions. So I'm just playing with you. That's not Snoop. It's very endearing.
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Yeah, but it's crazy. Like, it's. It's hair pulling. But anyways, our grass is dead.
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I know, but it's very fitting for the time of year. Halloween. Right?
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Well, looks spooky.
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The dead grass.
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Let me run the this past you. We were thinking about just getting those companies that, like, spray paint your dead grass. Have you seen that before?
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Like how balding men spray their toupee or like, they spray their hair.
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If you are selling a foreclosed house, you can get someone to come and spray the. Your dead grass green. We need to resawed it, but we were hoping it might come back to life. But we're going to super decorate for Christmas, so I don't know. We're trying to figure out.
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Just let us just leave it. Just. I wouldn't resod it right now before Christmas because you're going to get something ridiculous like a. A snow machine.
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We are getting a snow.
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I know you would. Get a snowboard. Snowball fight. Like a fix. You're gonna get real snow.
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Wait, our Black Friday socially distance event is gonna be off the hook. It's gonna be so much fun.
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Cool.
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Beignet truck.
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Beignet truck. I heard Benihana for some reason, I was like, benihana has a truck? That'd be so dope.
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Oh, Benihana's like, you can't do that outside. That sucks. Like outdoor hibachi.
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Yeah.
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Okay, well, anyways, let's get on topic.
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Okay.
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Today we are going to debunking skin myths. There's a lot of just crap out there, so we're gonna do a quick run through of bullet points. Do you believe this? Do you not? Is this true? Will it work?
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Yeah.
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And then we will set you straight.
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I pretty much gathered all of these bullet. Like, I've gathered the material from this episode from just clients, like, over the years, but also just ones I've heard. You know, just things I've had to kind of, like, explain to clients. So having Aaron the science brain, maybe it'll. It'll be a little more penetrative. That's a word. Penetrative. It'll. It will. It will hit your noodle if Aaron says it and not me. Because some of y', all, when I tell you stuff, it just goes through one ear, out the other.
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I had someone, a few people tell me they loved how you explained the before and after pictures in your stories the other day.
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Oh, great.
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Now I'm going to have to do
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that all the time. I know. I did that because it really helps me from a layman's perspective, because you've really trained me, so I love helping people understand because, you know, everyone's entitled to comment whatever they want on our Instagrams. Fortunately, we don't have any trolls or haters, but some people will be like, what did she do? Like, I don't notice. And I'm like, you're right. It's really Hard to notice. But I'm gonna break it down for you. And people are like, oh, my God. Like, I never looked at it. Because sometimes people think it needs to be super obvious. Yes. But then they're like, I don't want it to be obvious. I want to be subtle. It's like, then what do you want, girl? What do you want? So thank you, guys, that for apprecia my story.
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Do you know what that's called? It's building your aesthetic eye.
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I. I have an aesthetic eye?
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You do have an aesthetic eye. Not everyone does. That's what makes a good injector. Not, like, qualifications.
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No, no, no way.
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You couldn't.
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You couldn't pay me all the money in the world to inject. I am sorry. Leave it to me.
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Leave it to me.
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Okay, so this kind of. We kind of touched about this in our last episode, the first skin myth. I want to talk to you about, Aaron, Is that cosmelon, which is our most intensive fortified peel. The results from the Cosmolon last forever. No, that's false.
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It is false.
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Yeah.
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Brown spots will come back.
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That's like, a horrible one. They don't want to hear that. I know people don't want to hear that. You have to continuously work at something,
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and even still, it's not perfect. Even if you are perfect at trying to stay out of the sun wearing sun protection. So here's an example. Say I wore my, like, Bluestone sunshield into this office right now, and I put on sunscreen in the morning, and we're sitting in this room next to a sliding glass door. What. What's happening right now? I'm having UV rays on my face. Right. Even though you think you're indoors with Sunscreen, it's not 100 protective. Yeah. With pigmentation and melasma, I give people these stats. Cosmolon, it works great. It works really well in about 80 to 90% of patients. It works spectacular. Like it is amazing results.
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Game changing.
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10 to 20% of patients, it's unimpressive. So if you're in that 10 to 20%, it sucks because it's such a bummer you paid all this money. But what you have to do is at that point, for that subset, we have to dig a little bit deeper. Okay. Do we need to work on other things? There's actually an oral medication, oral transexamic acid that you can use help pigmentation. It's actually a medication we use to for blood conditions. So you taking oral medication, looking into your hormones, like there's a lot more that goes into it, but there is a chance. You spend $900, you peel for a few weeks and you don't and your pigmentation does not look better. What you have to see beyond that is that it's going to help improve your skin tone and texture. So you, you are going to have more glowing skin, but you still might have the brown spots. Yeah, that is a possibility.
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Yeah.
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And there is no money back guarantee. Like, this is medicine.
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So seriously, I mean, I posted on, I posted on the through Thick and skin podcast IG about like price matching. You know, we talked about in a previous episode, like, we are not selling tires. We are not selling, you know, like the money back guarantee.
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Yes.
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Like, this is, like you said, the variables.
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Yes, it is.
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It is. What are you doing at home? You know what I mean? Like, you can say all day long, like, I pretty much drink SPF and I, I don't know what happened. Girl, we saw you at brunch without a hat on last weekend in your stories. Partying.
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Yeah.
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Wasted.
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Yeah.
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So you can't come. You know, there's a lot of.
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No one's perfect. I'm not perfect.
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I'm not perfect.
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Like, I have melasma and I do everything, but, you know, I drive in my car with, with just sunglasses on. Like, having sunscreen is not enough alone. So you just have to understand, like, no one's going to live perfectly. So just accept it. So say you are in that 80% of people have spectacular results. Say your melasma gets 90, 80, 90% better. Your pigmentation is going to creep back over the next few months. You know, if you're in summertime, you're outdoors, but it typically is never going to as bad as it was before. You did the Cosmol and peel. So say you get 80% better, and then over summertime, now you're back to like 30% better. You're going to be doing a Cosmolon once a year to maintain your results, but you're never going to be as bad as it was. And you're also, your skin's going to look smoother and fresher. And we're going to educate you on products to use in between to maybe get it 50% better. So you might have to put a little, like, concealer over your melasma. It might not be 100% better, but it's, it's going to be better than it was before.
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So let me ask this, is there anything that we do that lasts forever at the treatment?
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I like Everything's maintenance.
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Exactly.
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That's the answer I want. Well, in dermatology you can like remove growths and those are gone forever. Even with something like taking away Amelia or oil glands, those can go away, but you can get new ones that pop up over time. Yeah, like if you get oil glands you like, I hate to put you in a category, you are going to get oil glands as a person. You know, like there's nothing to keep it away. If you are a pigmented person, you're going to get pigment. If you are redness prone, you're going to get redness. Like, you have to deal with your skin the way it is and like, take care of it in a certain way. It is very rare that someone is genetically blessed with like perfect skin.
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Yeah, it is rare. Fuck like people. I'm just kidding.
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Born with a six pack.
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That's not fair. Okay, so this is another kind of. Well, actually this ties into another question. Question. So let me, let me ask you this one, Aaron. This is. Is this true or false? Filler will stretch out my face and when the filler goes away, I will look deflated.
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I always love these enunciations when you ask these questions. Okay, so no, it's not the case. Filler is not as much product as you think it is. In a, a syringe of filler, it's only a fifth of a teaspoon. So you actually need five syringes to make a teaspoon. And if you think about it, something like stretching out the face, like a baby, a 10 pound baby in your stomach to stretch out your skin. That's how much you need to stretch for it to become deflated. We do not put enough filler in your face for it to look stretched out. When it goes away, it actually stimulates your collagen so it can just make your face look plumper and better over time.
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You sold me. Sign me up. That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, when I hear that, when I, when people ask me that, I'm like, come on. I mean, like, what is it, like eight syringes in a ketchup packet? Yeah, there isn't like the volume in a syringe.
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I mean, it's really not as much as people.
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I think it is definitely not enough to stretch. No. Your, your face out.
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Nope, not at all.
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Okay, true or false, Aaron. Pore sizes can be shrunken.
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They cannot be shrunk, but they can be made to appear smaller. Think about a pore size. The size of your pores is genetic. Like the Size of your nose, you can't do anything to, you know, make it go away. But we can do things like exfoliate the skin to sand down the surface of the skin so the pore gets. Looks smaller. Because opening the opening looks smaller, you can remove what's clogged inside of it. So exfoliate deeper down with facials, retinols, glycolic acid. So you need to just keep them really clean and keep the surface of the skin looking as tight as possible. Micro needling is great because that can help stimulate collagen production from deeper down and essentially kind of fill in the pore from deeper down and fill it into the surface to make it look smaller as well.
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Okay, cool. So, yeah, when people who say, like, this serum shrinks your pores. No, no, it's just smoke and mirrors, right?
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Yeah. You should use the term, you know, appear smaller.
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And I use that. I use that term. You know, I don't say, like, this will shrink your poor. I say it will make it appear smaller because there's not a whole bunch of gunk in it.
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Correct.
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So you won't notice it as much.
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Correct.
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Okay. Is this true or false? I can get the results from a serum or cream just as good as Botox.
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No. Like, Botox is intended for dynamic wrinkles. So things like frown lines, forehead lines, crow's feet around the eyes. On our last episode, we talked about a before and after picture of a girl. We put on an intensive skincare regimen, but on top of that, she still had to do Botox. It's not gonna. They're not interchangeable. It's never gonna get you the same results as Botox does. They are in the process of creating a topical Botox. Who knows what that's gonna look like?
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But, yeah, topical Botox. You know how many people are gonna go crazy off that? Gonna look frozen as hell.
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Yeah. But I think it might be something a medical professional still has to apply.
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Oh, okay. So I could. This kind of leads into another. Another question I kind of. I'm skipping around here. So facial exercises with those little stones that are all popular on the Instagram, those are just as effective as Botox. For relaxing my wrinkles?
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No, no. All these things just complement it. So I think you're talking about those, like, Gua Sha tools. Those can help make your skin and your face look tighter because you're taking out the skin swelling, doing lymphatic drainage, but you're not doing anything to strengthen the muscles or tighten the skin. You're kind of just, like, contouring everything by, like, massaging it down, which I think is great. It looks good. It's just not. It's not permanent.
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Yeah.
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So.
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No, exactly. Okay.
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Do it in addition to your Botox.
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Yeah, it looks cool for the gram. Very hipster. Okay, so true or false? The higher the spf, the better. False. Super false. So you're telling me that the 115spf I have is not. Is not going to protect you?
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I think they're going to just keep going up and up. A lot of people tell me that you're like, I wear 60 SPF every day. I'm like, why, like,
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feel bad for those clients? They're so proud to tell you. And you're like, girl, just 235. And make sure it's physical. Yeah, that's all.
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It's more about ingredients. So you want physical ingredients like zinc oxide, titanium dioxide that reflect sun rays versus chemical sunscreens that filter sun rays. Yeah, look for ingredients.
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Look for ingredients.
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Yes.
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Okay. True or false? Bathing in vitamin E will make my stretch marks go away.
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Like cocoa butter on your stomach. What's the really popular one called? Stretch marks. It's like a pregnant lady on there. Oh, my God.
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It's like brown and orange on the. The logo.
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Yes.
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Yeah, they don't. If they're not paying us, we're not going to drop their name.
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It doesn't work anyways. Yeah, I hate to break it to people, but. But applying, like, cocoa butter or baby oil or whatever on your stomach or anything when you're pregnant, it does not prevent stretch marks.
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What? I know. Never having a baby. Never having a baby.
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It's genetic. It's genetic, but it's also how quickly you gain weight. So, you know, if you. I, I don't like when people say this because you just. Just eat healthy when you're pregnant. Like, don't worry about how much. Well, you should worry about how much weight you're gaining. I don't know. Like, it's like too much pressure. Like, I remember when I was pregnant, like, stressing about, like, oh, every month they weigh you and you'. Oh, you gained two extra pounds than you should have. You're like, I'm hungry and I'm craving Del Taco nachos. Like, leave me alone. But if you already gain, say, 100 pounds during pregnancy versus 40 pounds during pregnancy, you are more likely to get more stretch marks if you gain more weight.
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Yeah.
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During pregnancy. But it's. It's like your genetics, how quickly you gain weight yeah, it's not moisturizing. No. And vitamin E will not make your stretch marks go away either. But what is a little tricky, though, is that they will show these commercials, like something like Moderma, like the scar they will show you. Look, here's a new scar. And 12 weeks later, we applied Moderma to it and it looks so much better. Well, scars look better in 12 weeks anyways. So, you know, you have to do maybe like an analysis where you do half the scar with a scar cream and the other half without it. So, yeah, it's a lot of just marketing.
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Yeah.
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Anything that I think helps scars the most are silicone patches where you put them on and leave them on. Helps reduce tension to the scar, keeps the area moisturized, keeps sun exposure off of it. That's where I would go with it. If you have a new scar. Old scars, you need other stuff.
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Yeah, old scar. Just accept it. Move forward. Okay. True or false, Aaron? I can skip sunscreen because it's cloudy
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outside, just like we were talking about being inside, just through a. A window. Non direct sunlight. Sun rays do penetrate through the clouds. And a lot of times when it's colder, you forget about how much sun exposure you're getting, and you're more likely to be out in the sun longer. So.
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Nope.
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Sunscreen every day.
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Sunscreen all day, every day. Okay. True or false, Aaron, you have acne because you don't clean your skin properly.
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B
Yes and no. If you never wash your face and you have acne, that could be a cause of it. But just because you have acne, it does not mean that there's a problem with your hygiene. And I hate when people say that, like, what's wrong with your skin?
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Or, like, are you dirty? You're dirty because you have zits.
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Exactly. It's not like that at all. So, no. A lot of times people overcompensate when they hear that and wash their faces this three, four times a day. And that's unhealthy for your skin, too.
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A
Yeah, that doesn't. That throws it out of whack, and it's completely imbalanced. True or false Acne goes away as you get older?
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No, not always. So there is this cycle where being a woman is. It sucks. You will. You'll get acne when you're a teenager, then maybe it goes away when you're like, 23, 24, then you get pregnant and you get acne, and then, like, your kids stress you out, so you get acne, and then you go through menopause and you get acne. So there are these ebbs and flows of acne throughout your life. So, no, I've treated plenty of women into their 60s with breakouts, and a lot of is hormonally related. So just trying to, you know, see that correlation. What's going on in your life hormonally? Are there things you can do to affect that? Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. And also, it's something to bring up to your gynecologist, your ob, gyn. If you are having acne as a symptom, that can be a symptom of something going on. Hormonal changes.
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Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. Like, I have a twin brother, right. And Michael had pretty bad acne in high school. I don't know if you remember. I mean, I had acne, but nothing too. I mean, just typical teenage acne. Nothing too. I mean, I think I was on different as a teenager. I remember doing all sorts of orals and topicals in high school, but it wasn't too bad. My acne got worse when I was, like, 27. Like, Michael outgrew it. My twin brother, he outgrew his acne. He never, you know, barely washed his ass, so he probably didn't wash his face. And so he. He grew out of the acne. I, like, got worse in my acne by the time he had grown out of it. And so, yeah, that just goes to prove that my acne got worse the older I got. And so I think some people. Some of. Some women get frustrated. Like, I do not understand. Like, I've never broken out my life. Then all of a sudden I'm breaking out, and then I have wrinkles, and what the hell, you know? Or they just get super frustrated.
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So, yeah, so, nope, just wash your face twice a day.
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A
Okay. Drinking water with a slice of lemon as soon as I wake up will clear my skin. Is that true or false?
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It's false. I mean, I think you should drink a lot of water and stay hydrated. I like lemon water, but it does not affect your acne.
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No.
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So no.
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Okay.
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Easy as that.
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A
Yeah. Like, you know, drinking water is great for overall health, but it's kind of a small part of the picture when it comes to your skin.
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B
Yes.
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You know, protecting your skin with sunscreen and using a proper regimen. That is what's vital. And, yeah, you can have your cute little lemon water. Okay, so true or false? Chemicals are bad for the skin. If I can't pronounce it, I shouldn't be using it.
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No, I mean, it's not totally true. Like, I think in general, I think we all want to try to live like a clean lifestyle about having less, less, quote, unquote, chemicals in our lifestyle. A lot of people come to me like, I only want something natural. This is like my derm days. Like, I only want a natural treatment. I was like, okay, well we can use arsenic because that's all natural. And they're like, well, arsenic's bad for you. I'm like, oh, yeah, there you go.
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So, like, look at you, smarty pants.
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B
Of course, like, there are natural things that are not good for you. And on the flip side, there are synthetic things that are good for you. So it's just trying to weave in and out on like, what do you need? What don't you need? So, no, I mean, I think, yes, we, we want to stay as clean as possible, but at the same time, you should not expect rubbing an orange on your face to give you the same results as like a medical grade L, ascorbic acid, vitamin C. So just having realistic expectations with it.
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A
Yeah, totally. Because natural, it's very much a buzzword. You know, it's, it sounds, it's very in and it sounds good. But the truth is that, you know, the natural products, like you said, an orange peel on the face are not going to deliver the protection of a stabilized vitamin C created by our little scientist in the lab.
- [22:13]
B
No marketing. We were cleaning out our cupboard the other day and my husband pulled up this bag and it was like a bag of like Twizzlers. And on the front it says a low fat food in like a green sticker. Like it's supposed to be healthy for you.
- [22:27]
A
Yeah.
- [22:27]
B
So it's just like, it's tough because there's so much marketing out there. It's just, I don't know, it's just gross.
- [22:32]
A
But yeah, yeah. So look for, you know. Yeah, like all being all natural, like preservative free in your salad dressing. Dope, you know, like make your own rather than buy buying, you know, Hidden Valley. But you know, when it comes to skincare, look for medical grade products because they have pharmaceutical grade ingredients and that's going to change and correct and improve.
- [22:54]
B
Yes.
- [22:54]
A
So all the stuff we carry is medical grade. All of it. For this, for the face. We do have some, you know, cool body scrubs and stuff like that that are sugar and whatnot, that are naturally based. But that's for the bod. For the face. It's a, it's a different, different thing. So you know, and there's no, I don't think there's any concrete evidence that like preservatives in SK. Harmful, if anything. Without preservatives, skin care and the other cosmetics are more susceptible for like nasty things to grow in it or to like expire like mold yeast, you know, like you need the stabilization in a vitamin C serum for it to be effective.
- [23:30]
B
Yes.
- [23:30]
A
So it needs some preservatives.
- [23:32]
B
It needs something. Our dose does not have preservatives in it, but you have to use it within three months. So it's something where if maybe if you're going for the all natural route or more natural, look into doing like a dose dose. Skinceutical serum.
- [23:43]
A
Yeah, exactly. And pay attention to that expiration date.
- [23:46]
B
Yep.
- [23:46]
A
Okay. True or false, Eating chocolate or pizza will cause oilier skin.
- [23:54]
B
Pizza will only cause oilier skin. If you rub it on your face. Like it doesn't. What you eat is not related to your oil production. However, it's. So foods don't directly cause acne, but if you eat unhealthy foods that cause you to be overweight or obese, the visceral fat on your body can, can cause issues in your skin. So it's, it's, it's like that indirect correlation with it. So yes, you still want to eat really healthy if you are suffering with acne. I mean, I think modifying your diet is never a bad thing, but I would never tell someone, like, go on the whole 30 diet and your acne is totally going to clear up. You know, it's, it's something that you can add to it, but it's not, it's something that for most people does not work independently. Yeah. So if someone comes and tells me like I did this diet and all my acne cleared up, I'd be like, that's awesome. Like more power to you. But it hasn't been proven consistently. Study after study and that's it.
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A
Yeah. So do you have any other myths that you've heard over the years that you have to like, like a broken record explain?
- [24:55]
B
I mean, now that I do injectables, it's mostly like, I don't want to look fake or phony, but then they show me an Instagram picture of like five syringes in a lip. I'm like, okay, well like, what do you want? I think people's perception of how things look nowadays is, is twisted because of social media. Like people think what is to. On. On a normal scale is a very extra large lip is like normal on social Media, so everyone thinks it is normal. So I think it's just demystifying what a face actually looks like, what skin actually looks like, what body types actually look like. Like, like you said earlier in our last episode, people aren't showing their, like, normalcies or crappiness. They're showing them when they're looking at their best and their cutest outfit, their hair, totally done.
- [25:36]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [25:37]
B
So there's just. Yeah, just that.
- [25:39]
A
Yeah, just the myth that, you know, like, some before and afters, you know, there's some smoke and mir, but also what you see in a picture after is. Is very different than what you see moving, what you see animated. And I wish that more injectors would show that. You know, we don't necessarily show video of people moving, but sometimes I feel like maybe like a little defensive. Like, if some random ass person who doesn't follow us but, like, follows. The hashtag is like, her. Her lip looks fucking thin. Like, her lip is whack. It's still thin where I want to be. Like, like, hold me back, Aaron, because guess what? This chick looks natural when she talks. How. What do you have to say about the rest of those injectors who have the doll lips, the Russian doll lips? Ask that to talk. How does she look when she moves her mouth? Yes, it's completely distracting. Yes. So it's just kind of a shift in how people. Like you said, there are so many girls on the Internet that all look alike. All look alike?
- [26:34]
B
Yes.
- [26:35]
A
All, like, they were almost like the same lip color.
- [26:38]
B
And do you ever look at some. I look at some celebrities and I think it's someone else.
- [26:41]
A
Yep.
- [26:42]
B
Like, they look exactly the same.
- [26:43]
A
Yep. I look at. I look at, like, these, like, famous makeup artists that are. Then I'm like, wait, is that like
- [26:49]
B
high cheek, pointy chin, big lashes, like, like medium large lips, the same color lipstick? I don't know.
- [26:57]
A
Just like.
- [26:57]
B
Yeah.
- [26:57]
A
But then again, I'm not, You know, I also am a big proponent of people feeling good about themselves and the skin they're in.
- [27:03]
B
Yeah, of course.
- [27:04]
A
Like, I'm. I, you know, however you want to dress, whatever you want to do, I'm all about that. I just more than ever, like, really love how. And as soon as I say this, people are gonna be like, megan, you look like every other white girl. Like, you look like all white girls. But no, I think I look different because I don't have a little tinkerbell nose and I don't have, you know, like, little tattooed freckles, and I don't have little fake lashes. I have no shade to fake lashes because we have a lot of lash girls. But I'm just kind of like, yeah, my nose is a little. You know, my nose looks this way. My. This. And it's just feels. It feels good to know that, like, I look a little different in a good way.
- [27:43]
B
Yeah.
- [27:43]
A
You know, and at the treatment, we like to maintain that, like, not make anybody be like, whoa, what happened to her?
- [27:49]
B
Just very natural.
- [27:50]
A
Yeah.
- [27:50]
B
One other myth I can think of is that I will have patients come to me and tell me, oh, the last person I went to, they bruised me so bad. It was so awful. Like, that's not a sign of bad work. Like, you're gonna. You. You're gonna get bruised and swollen from this stuff.
- [28:03]
A
So you tell them that, though, right? You're not like, oh, damn, she must have been whack.
- [28:06]
B
No, I never do. And then they'll also tell me, like, oh, my gosh, last time they did, my eyebrows got way too high. I was like, well, you know, that can happen sometimes. It's easily fixable. So. No, there's rarely people like, I will, like, throw shade to. I mean, I had this one case where this patient just got totally misdiagnosed, and it was, like, atrocious care. And so. But she was so nice and kind. She kept going back to this person. And so I was like. That's when I was like, you need to stop like that. That there's something wrong there. Like, you. You cannot go to that per. Like, you should not go to that person anymore. Let me send you out to someone else. So it's only if it's very negligent. But if you have, say, someone gave you a little bit uneven lips, one eyebrow got higher than the next. You got really bad bruising. All those things are very normal in this. And it can happen to any injector. You have some. And sometimes I do that. I'll inject lips, and once I got a little fuller after the swelling went down, come back, I'll put a little bit more on the other side. You want eyebrows higher there. I put a little bit more in, like.
- [29:02]
A
But it's all good. Like, whose eyebrow. Who has eyebrows that are completely symmetrical?
- [29:06]
B
Nobody.
- [29:07]
A
Like, I don't like when people are like, her eyebrows a little higher than the left. I'm like, oh, are yours perfectly aligned?
- [29:12]
B
Exactly.
- [29:12]
A
Can we fold your face in half and you're completely symmetrical, like Angelina Jolie? No, because Angelina Jolie is a unicorn, so.
- [29:19]
B
Yes.
- [29:19]
A
My one eye. I like that one of my eyebrows is higher than the other. Yeah. It makes give me Cruella vibes, but, yeah. It's a myth that, like, if an injector made you bruise like crazy, that they're a bad injector.
- [29:29]
B
Exactly. Yes.
- [29:30]
A
Because you. Yeah. You busted some chicks up.
- [29:32]
B
I have.
- [29:33]
A
I've seen some women that are like, whoa, did you get jumped? And they're like, no, Aaron just put five syringes. No, I know.
- [29:38]
B
Okay. Not as bad anymore because everyone's wearing masks, like, to cover it. Nobody's complaining of their bruising. But before, people would come back and be like, oh, my gosh, I have two black eyes. I'm like, yeah. And remember, I went over that in detail that I chose. It could happen. And she's like, like. And she's like, I, I, I know, I know. I'm like, okay.
- [29:54]
A
It's okay. Yeah. Here's some. That's what Derma Blends creator drops are for you guys. You build that with some banana powder. You could cover up tattoos straight up. So. So, yeah. You guys, thanks so much for listening to our debunking the skin Myths. Those are good. Yeah. We hope you guys learned something. And make sure to follow us on Apple Podcast. Subscribe to our podcast. Make sure to rate us, and we are also on Spotify. And tell all your friends, please. Thank you, guys. See you next week. Bye.