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Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
2024 in Review: The Year in Bad Takes & Unforgettable Moments + Justin Kroll’s 2024 Film Awards
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Jerry Ferrara
Let's just say if potentially, if the Detroit Lions may find themselves going to New Orleans around February for whatever their reasons are. Does Justin Kroll purchase a ticket or get a ticket through various Hollywood connections?
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Justin Kroll
Yes. Yes. There's monies put away that my wife does not know about.
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Jerry Ferrara
You have a fun welcome to another episode of Throwbacks presented by Cash App. Sending, spending, saving, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting. We're just typing numbers, all with the number one finance app in the App Store. That's money. That's cash App. Maddy, Ice.
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Matt Leinart
What's up?
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Jerry Ferrara
Ice is good. Ice is going to be the key of today's year.
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Matt Leinart
A year.
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Jerry Ferrara
We, we talked about doing this episode where we do a year in review, which a lot of people do. So we wouldn't be the first to do it, but we're certainly not going to be the last. But when we were talking, it became, you know, instead of just pointing to the things we know were so amazing, like Dodgers or the Knicks, why don't we take a look back of 2024 and find what went wrong. The freezing cold takes and big shout outs to the account on Twitter or X or whatever you call it these days. Freezing cold takes or old takes exposed because that was a big resource for us. But we are going to pull some of the freezing cold takes from 2024 and review them.
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Matt Leinart
I'm laughing because.
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Jerry Ferrara
So excited.
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Matt Leinart
Like there's, it's so exciting, but there's like just three or four dudes who just fill up. Like, I'm like, when you're like diving into this, you're like, oh, he said that. Oh, he said that again. Oh, this guy. There's like four or five guys. There's. There's some good one. I don't even know where to start. I feel like personally I'm gonna start. I'm a guilty of this because we, on one of the very first shows, I think we did a bet about me saying the New York jets were gonna make the Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure. And we were talking about.
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Jerry Ferrara
Did you say that?
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Matt Leinart
No, I think I said they'd have to make an AFC championship game for you to wear like, like a. Oh.
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Jerry Ferrara
That was the safest. I don't know.
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Matt Leinart
It was the dumbest. And honestly. So I'm on record basically as one of these idiots who had a freezing take. I'm gonna, I'm gonna stay on that. I'm just gonna start this off with my boy Peter Schrager. Okay.
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Jerry Ferrara
Oh, no, I love Schrager.
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Matt Leinart
So Shreg's my dog. And he. And we'll get him to comment on this. He's my boy. I love shreks. On September 4th in 2024, early in the season, Aaron Rodgers is my Pick for the 2024 NFL MVP. By the way, I'm sure there were hundreds of people who were going to say that what he's about to do for the jets, even he couldn't grasp or foresee.
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Jerry Ferrara
No. Oh, no.
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Matt Leinart
And he's.
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Jerry Ferrara
He's.
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Matt Leinart
By the way, he's. He's worn out this take all year for sure. But that's my fun. I just. Because I love Shregs. That's got. That's one of my takes. I mean, how bad have the jets been? It's just been bad.
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Jerry Ferrara
It's. It's arguably the. The freezingest of freezing.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah. It's by far the worst take of. Of. Of 2020.
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Jerry Ferrara
Now I'm gonna dive into. Before I do, I just want to say this. What I would like to see happen today is also. It is an homage to the take. Because as much as we're pointing and we're. We're not clowning, but we're pointing to what everyone screwed up. I've even been a victim of the old takes exposed account. I've been. I was brought up on charges I made some take at halftime of. I don't even know if it was a Knicks game or something. I don't remember. And immediately I got tagged 150 times at cold takes, all that stuff. And, and I lobbied because I didn't think it was a take. I just said, oh, I'm just reacting. It's not. I'm not giving an opinion. And our. My friends at all takes exposed weighed in and they retracted the bad.
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Matt Leinart
What was your take? What was your take?
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Jerry Ferrara
I can't remember. It was something. It was just something like a team was shooting real bad. It might have been the Knicks in basketball. And I might have said something just like they're, you know, innocuous. Like there's just no way any team could win a game going 3 for 10, 24 from the three point line. And that team went on to win. It's like I didn't say they were gonna lose. I said they continue to shoot this way, they're gonna lose. And they didn't continue to shoot that way. They heated up. So I. Luckily they took me off that. But I'm gonna dive into mine. Well, my first one. But I just want to say takes are like performance art and there are a few Mount Rushmore people. I found the same thing as you that wow. And I couldn't even imag single day five days a week. The job is to wake up and give a take. Like you know, you're on the road almost half the year and you're not doing takes right. So I respect it. Before I give mine, can I give the one I want to hang in the in the Lou as like a this one should go. This is an all timer and it's from a. It's from an all time goat. So this is not a 2024 thing. But yes. Colin Cowherd who I respect because it's just him and the mic. He does hours and hours a week by himself spitting out takes. But at halftime of the Patriots Falcons super bowl when the Pat when the pats were down 283 he tweeted I screenshot this myself that I'm looking at that from in the moment. He said I would hold off on trading Jimmy G. That was his tweet at halftime in the game. So he's definite Mount Rushmore.
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Matt Leinart
Can I just follow that up on my Mount Rushmore?
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Jerry Ferrara
Yes, do it.
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Matt Leinart
When when Max Kellerman came out and said Tom Brady's fallen off a cliff, I believe it was. That was July 18th. I looked this up July 18th. Kellerman had a couple had a couple falling.
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Jerry Ferrara
He.
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Matt Leinart
He might be 2016 basically saying that Tom Brady is falling off a cliff. I don't when what year was this super bowl? This was 20. I. I'm getting the year but 2016, this is when he said that I think he went on to play four. Well that's before he went to Tampa and then he won another Super bowl. That by far Mount Rushmore of takes basically. Well, he was 45 years old.
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Jerry Ferrara
My first take I want to give is from a football player and unfortunately it's someone you know. He also went to USC but Caleb Williams texting fellow rookie punter Tori Taylor. Hey, you're not gonna punt too much here.
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Matt Leinart
That's a good one.
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Jerry Ferrara
Lo and behold, the Bears are I think tied for second overall in over in total punts. So that's a free. That wasn't even on frozen freezing cold takes that just was out there. So Caleb, you're on the list for 2020.
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Matt Leinart
There's a lot. There's a lot of Bears. Nick Wright. Nick Wright's he. He's a. He's a FS1 colleague Fox colleague future Mount Rushmore dude. He's already cold taker in August this year. He basically picked the Bears to win the Super Bowl. He picked them to win the Super Bowl. I can't, I don't think in his right mind when he said that he actually believed that. But that was one of his takes and another one of his takes. I'm just going to stay in the same vein here and go to college football. He basically said, when it comes to Colorado football, I'll take all the unders you want to sell me. Under wins, yards, blah, blah, blah. They're never going to make a bowl game. Blah, blah, blah. And obviously prime and their son, they went nine and three. Are they, you know they're going to make a bowl game or they made a bowl game. Excuse me. They were one game away earlier this year to get to a Big 12 championship game. So dead wrong on that one as well.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, Nick. Nick Wright. Slow and again, respected. He's on TV five days a week. It's definitely ratings. People watch just to see what he's gonna say. He's. He's on the fast track to the Mount Rushmore mine. And this is a guy I love. Again, we're not saying that these people aren't great at what they do. It's just you can't find out about the take till a little bit after Mike Greenberg of espn. Love Mike Greenberg. Also probably pretty miserable because he's a big jets fan. But here's one of his freezing cold takes. Absolutely everyone is on Alabama tonight. Absolutely everyone is never right. Give the points. Georgia, that was on September 28th. We know that the final score was Bama 4134. Mike Greenberg, you make the list this year.
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Matt Leinart
There's some. How about. Oh, you know, I was, I was, I was diving into this and this one actually pissed off a lot of people. I can't remember if we talked about on the show or not, but it was this year. It was, it was the Austin river saying he can name 30 NBA players that could play in the NFL right now.
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Jerry Ferrara
That was. That was a huge take.
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Matt Leinart
Dumb, but dumb. Like a lot of these takes are dumb, but that was just plain dumb. And I have no problem saying that.
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Jerry Ferrara
Who do you think? Is there anyone that I know you don't watch. You watch basketball when you can. You got a very, very busy life. Is. Is there anyone in the NBA that jumps out to you? It would be like, oh, that would be a great. That would he. When that person could play football.
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Matt Leinart
When someone says that they think of LeBron, right? Obviously, because, because he played high school football.
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Jerry Ferrara
Who admitted that he could not play Football.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, exactly. So, like, the point is, is you can't just look at someone who's big, fast and strong and can jump high and just be like an athletic and be like, oh, they could play in the NFL. Like, it's just not. It's just like, it's just because you can run fast and maybe you have good hand doesn't mean like you just can't do it. Like, we saw Draymond Green at Michigan State, who's a great athlete, I think, line up for their spring game. I think he even went out and said he was like, I want no business getting tackled across the middle. So. And honestly, like, and, and I, I wouldn't make the argument that there's 30 NFL guys could play in the NBA. I'm not that stupid. Like, I, I just. The crossover, it doesn't just automatically cross over. So I mean, you've had more guys like, obviously like Julius Peppers, hall of Famer. Played, played at UNC. Was good. Tony Gonzalez.
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Jerry Ferrara
Tony Gonzalez. OG's Antonio Gates. Antonio Gates. Graham. Jimmy Graham.
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Matt Leinart
Charlie Ward literally was a Heisman Trophy winner. And then, and then he actually went to play in the NBA for like, for your knicks for like 15 years.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah. He's a point guard forever.
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Matt Leinart
Say there's 30 guys. I mean, that was the, that was honestly like. And that got a lot of. That got a lot of legs.
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Jerry Ferrara
I always thought Russell Westbrook, I don't know if he cares of getting hit or not, but just like, I could certainly see a world where Russell Westbrook was like a receiver, you know, I.
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Matt Leinart
Mean, you've seen like Mahomes tape and you've seen like. Have you seen Travis Hunter's highlights?
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Jerry Ferrara
I did. You know, I watched that last night and it's so amazing. And also discouraging in same breath. It's amazing because you're watching him and it's like, how is this guy not considering the NBA? And it was a highlight tape. So freak. But it's discouraging. It's just like that is. That is DNA. That who no one in my family's ever gonna get.
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Matt Leinart
If we're talking, we're talking cold takes, you gotta, you gotta think, right? Coward. Kellerman. Skip.
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Jerry Ferrara
Skip it. I mean, Skip.
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Matt Leinart
Stephen A. Nick Wright is, is. Is an up and comer. Who's your, who's your all time, all time guy? That's hard.
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Jerry Ferrara
Well, I give it to Skip because he kind. He sort of helped create taking, you know, like takes. But I mean, look, that's been going on in sports talk radio. Forever too. But he made it performance art and hooked up with Stephen A. The funny thing with Skip as. As barstool and and PMT did like such an amazing job. They made him relitigate his old takes and he still got his fastball.
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Matt Leinart
But the thing believes everything he says.
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Jerry Ferrara
I think all you need to do, Matt, in my opinion, is be right on one of these wild thing. Like if the Bears went to the Super Bowl. Nick Wright has two years of a victory lap where he could now start saying anything and he just get away that car. Skip was the, I think the only person I could recall who was screaming about Tim Tebow. He deserves to start. He should start. He's a great quarterback play build around Tebow and the Broncos did and they won some games and then they won that playoff game.
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Matt Leinart
They won the playoffs against the Steelers.
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Jerry Ferrara
He got so much run out of that. So that's really the performance. If you just hit one of these truly big takes, then you're, you have a few years ahead of you of just, you know, you could pull that card at any point.
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Matt Leinart
I, I had, I didn't. It wasn't really a take, but I was thinking about this, like, have I made. Because for me in college football, right, it's, it's. I, I, you try to be critical, but you're doing it in a way where you're not like, like these are also kids. I also was a, Well, I also was in their shoes. I was an athlete. I was, I was the victim of probably ice cold takes. But I try and like you try and be critical, but you do it in a positive way. Is, is the way I look at that now. You got to be opinionated. You gotta do all these things. So there's one fan base in particular and it wasn't, it was kind of like yours. I don't, I don't think it would be. I wouldn't be charged with a freezing take. But the minute Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma in the fashion that he did, really, really, really pissed off the Oklahoma fan base.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yes.
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Matt Leinart
Right. And I, they got a lot of little bad blood because, you know, I beat them by 50 back in the day and they're still upset, but so they were talking so much to me. I'm like, why are you talking to me? I didn't do anything, okay. And, and it was like going on for months when, when Lincoln came over and it started to piss me off. I'm like, all right. Now, truthfully, I don't care what they say about me online, but like, I Was like, all right, now I'm going to just start engaging with these people, right?
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Jerry Ferrara
Let's do this.
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Matt Leinart
Like, let's do this. So it wasn't necessarily a take, but all I did, all I did, they finished, I think six or I don't know. The first year they had a new coach, Brett Medibles, who I love. It had nothing to do with him. They were bad. This was like three years ago. I think we're like four and a five and seven. And all I did was like hashtag karma, right? So I was just trolling, right, Karma. And. And they're like, well, that's not what karma means and blah, blah, blah. And I tell you not. And I was just saying, like, this is karma for you guys talking so much shit to me about USC. And this was the first year Lincoln went 11 and 2 with Caleb Williams. And still to this day, every week that USC loses. My X timeline is just hashtag karma from suitors. They. They have been trolling me now for two straight years. Dude. It is the greatest thing. So it doesn't stem from a take, but it is one of those things that has made a particular fan base not like me. And all I basically. All I basically respond is like, I just love living rent free in their head. Like, I just live rent free in their head. I could care less.
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Jerry Ferrara
And you got to keep that going. That's not, to me, that. That's not. Yeah, that's not even a take. That's just that to me is the cool part of social media and sports where you could have these interactions and they. A little hostile, but it's online.
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Matt Leinart
They're. They're so serious. They're so. They're so like to respond and like they, they need to know that, like, I genuinely do not care in my day about what they say to me about USC or Oklahoma. I just love engaging with them because it gets them so mad.
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Jerry Ferrara
Well, and we have. I forgot to tease that a little later. We have a good buddy of mine, Justin Kroll, who is a Michigan native, lives in LA now, big Lions fan. I made the mistake of talking trash about the Lions and Thanksgiving. And I felt for a second what it's like for a fan base to turn on you on Twitter. It not a great feeling. It goes away quickly, fortunately. And Justin, you should know, is a film reporter for Deadline. We're gonna do some Hollywood awards coming up in a little while. We're gonna do it like sports awards. That's gonna be good. But more importantly, are you ready for my Next freezing cold take. Yes, this one. I. This is a good conversation because I don't think this one is fully frozen yet. I think it's starting to freeze, but there's a little slush, there's a little liquid. Trey Wingo. Love Trey Wingo Sports Center. All those years. I'm Fantre Wingos tweeted. I love Mike Tomlin, but this decision to start Russell over Fields looks disastrous. Now. I think he was probably reacting to the first half of the Russell Wilson tenure in Pittsburgh, but it does bring a. Obviously, Steelers are in great shape, so that's why it's not a fully frozen take. This could go bad still. But I don't know if you and I ever talked truly. Did you feel like that was the right move at the right time, the Russell Wilson, Justin Fields thing?
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Matt Leinart
The. So, yes, because I. And mainly because people always say this, like, Justin Fields, great kid, rooting for him. Obviously talent needed a fresh start, all those things. And by the way, was winning. Okay, they were winning. But nobody knows what's going on in those walls, in the practice, in the game plans more than Mike Tomlin and the coaches. Right. So they see these guys every day. So my whole thing was like, we know what Russell Wilson is. He had a great year, honestly, last year for Denver. I mean, he just. Hayden, Sean Payton didn't get along, but his numbers were there. Like, he actually had a pretty good year. Like, he was still playing a high level and you just knew based on what the Steelers offense was with Fields and how limited they were, but they were figuring out ways to win low scoring games. Couldn't throw the ball that well. We could do. We could. Okay, we're going to, we're going to get rid of probably that, some of these explosive run games with the quarterback play, but we're going to be so much more balanced and dynamic overall. I just, I didn't, I didn't look at it like, how could you do this? Like, I just felt like we kind of know what Russell Wilson can do and he's experienced and he came off a really good year last year. So it wasn't, it wasn't a shock to me and it wasn't an indictment on Justin Fields. It's just like they're very limited with what they can do in the past. Yeah, I mean, quite frankly, that was it. So.
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Jerry Ferrara
Oh, yeah, Trey Wingo. Yeah. I won't say this is our only one that's sort of freezing. You're starting to freeze. And I think the next two months will tell us Truly, if it's a frozen, freezing cold take.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, well, I mean, and at the T. I. I don't know the record, but what were they, like four and one or three? I mean, they were.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, they were still winning.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, it was a little bit of like, man, you just keep rolling with them because you like how dynamic, but it's like they just never really. It just the offense just. It is what it was, what it was, you know, like, you were very limited with that, and at some point you got to see what you have in Russell, you know?
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Jerry Ferrara
So do you have any more or should we hit a few quick ones? Or are you. Was that your free. Was that your.
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Matt Leinart
I mean, I. I think I would put. Yeah, I'm done. I mean, like, Ryan Hollins is up there. Ryan Holland has had some just boneheads, like, saying Giannis was overrated a couple years back. And like, Like, I don't know. I'm just some of these guys.
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Jerry Ferrara
All right, I want to just do a quick one. It's. It's. It's not from 2024, but this is almost in honor of Belichick in North Carolina going to unc. It's our boy, Dan Orlopsky. We love Dan. Dan has. Dan has to give a lot of opinions every day. This one is from 2021. So it's very unfair. And I love Dan. Him and I bantered a lot about Daniel Jones, which I was very wrong about. Dan Orlofsky believes Bill Belichick will win another super bowl with Mac Jones at qb. Mac Jones is the best rookie QB that I have ever seen since doing the job. When it comes to knowing where to go with the football, when to go with the football, and how to throw the football now. Wow. Again, he.
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Matt Leinart
By the way, that's going. That's going up on all social platforms with the tag of Daniel. We're just going to roast him. I. He was very high on Mac Jones. That's right. I remember that.
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Jerry Ferrara
I had such a fun trajectory to him because he hated the Daniel Jones pick. I defended it. Then it looked like he was right. He took a little bit of a victory lap. But then it switched back. He, like, apologized. Yeah, sort of. Even to me on Twitter, like, after the Vikings win, he's like, I was wrong. I was wrong. But just to show you how fickle this take thing is, he's back to being right. Just like that. And one year later, he's back to being right. But I love Dan. He's almost as.
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Matt Leinart
Almost as bad as his Food takes. I don't know if you know, his food takes, but God, they're bad.
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Jerry Ferrara
I. His food takes are bad. And the last one for me before we move on to more positive stuff, this is a per. This is my personal one. Austin Hedges, catcher on the Guardians Orange County Expect the Guardians had a big awesome series versus the Yankees. He did interviews at some. I don't. I remember with who might have been just with MLB where he's saying that Class A is the best pitcher he's ever seen. Go look at the numbers. He's better than Mariano. He's better. He's a better closer than Mariano Rivera. And then he went on to blow two saves and take another loss in that alcs. So love you, Austin Hedges, but don't, don't, don't be so quick to put people in the Mariano Rivera category. And that's it. So those are some of our freezing cold takes. Being that it's freezing outside here in Ohio, there's a ton more if we ever need. Now I want to switch things over to something a little more uplifting and give you our Defining Moments from 2024 brought to you by NHTSA. Matt, what were some of your defining moments in sports from 2024?
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Matt Leinart
Well, you phrased it that way. I should have, should have thought of something different. I'm going, no, this is whatever you want it to be. I'm going with my Dodgers. And the defining moment was Freddie Freeman's walk off in game one in extra innings at home at the Chavez. Okay, that was.
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Jerry Ferrara
Set the tone moment.
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Matt Leinart
That set the tone.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah.
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Matt Leinart
But when you go back at this playoff run, three, two division series over the Padres, which was the real series of their playoff, that was like the winner of that was probably going to win the World Series. Right? That was the toughest one. And just now our bit arrival, four two nlc NLCS win over the New York Mets and then four one over the Yankees World Series. I was at game five, as people know, Freddie Freeman's moment. Shohei hurting his shoulder moment does. Oh, no. Like you could hear, like, are they screwed? Like, what happened? Blake Trining pitching three in game five to shut him out, staying in there. When. When Dave Roberts goes out and says, are you all right? He goes, leave me in just like.
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Jerry Ferrara
And that awesome inning for you.
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Matt Leinart
And then Walker. Yeah, and then. Yeah, then the defining moment of the Yankees forgetting how to feel the ground ball. Walker Bueller coming back off however many days rest to close it. And then not to get too uplifting here, but then the facetime with my dad after was my moment, man. It is like as we, we, we joke, we have fun, we like, we do these takes, whatever, but like to have that experience and that moment with my pops who was watching it and I was there, was like, you know, like the last one was, was a 2020, obviously kind of different. The last one was really Gibby's home run in 88 when I was five years old, when it brought so much joy. This one brought so much joy to our family, man. So. And by the way, we're gearing back up to make another run in 2025. So that is.
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Jerry Ferrara
Baseball's back. Baseball's back. So my defining moment. I thought long and hard about this in sports and I didn't want it to just be a New York one. I tried to really think about it in sports. What was the defining moment? And the one that stuck out to me because it meant so many things than just, oh, that was a great thing for that person. But the USA Basketball gold medal, but particularly Steph Curry. It's really Steph Curry because he had a lot of defining moments in the NBA. He's a Hall of Famer. We all know everything we need to know about him. But just to have that one moment where it was with LeBron and with AD and all those great players to be the guy and then doing the, the putting, you know, putting them to sleep bit, I just thought for me, just when he was starting to taper off a little bit in the NBA, the warriors won that championship. And since then you could see he's starting, you know, the age is setting in. It's just happening. He's still amazing and hopefully we need to appreciate him for however long he has left in the NBA. But that moment in that gold medal game where he just went off, that to me sticks out more than the Chiefs winning the super bowl or the Knicks stealing game two. Those are my honorable mentions. So Steph Curry gold medal game, putting them to sleep is my defining moment of 2020.
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Matt Leinart
I think it probably like he was greatest shooter of all time, won multiple rings, like he, he's maybe top 10 player of all time. However you look at it, everyone, a lot of people think Magic's the best point guard of all time. I think that to your point, it just, it, it just notched him up another level. And how you look at him, right? Because USA Olympics, you think of Jordan, you think of the Dream team. Back in the day, we've had kind of an up and down run of basketball teams in the last 20 years on that team. LeBron's final run, KD's probably final run. You know, ant, like, who's t, who's taking the torch? Was the whole thing, right? Who's the next? And Steph just kind of reminding everybody, like, hey, don't forget about me. I will go down as maybe a top five player of all time. Like, like, you, like, you could argue that now, now that he has that, that hardware in that moment.
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Jerry Ferrara
Well, when they run his hall of fame reel and he has hundreds of moments. But you could rest assure either very early or at that very last moment you might see is going to be that putting them to sleep moment. So we're gonna come right back with Justin Kroll, senior reporter for Deadline, and we're gonna do some Hollywood acting awards, but not traditional. We're gonna make it sports adjacent. We'll be right back with Kroll.
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Matt Leinart
This episode of Throwbacks is brought to you by Cash App. When personal finance connects you to both your funds and the stuff that matters, that's money and that's Cash App. Know what else is money?
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Jerry Ferrara
Using Cash App to request that $50 your cousin owes you.
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Matt Leinart
Actually finally getting that $50.
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Jerry Ferrara
Easily divvying up those pizza and wings checks before your boys have the chance to slip out.
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Matt Leinart
Tipping the delivery guy when you're flat out of cash.
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Jerry Ferrara
Hearing an awesome musician on the train ride home and tipping their cash tag.
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Matt Leinart
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Jerry Ferrara
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Matt Leinart
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Jerry Ferrara
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- [28:33]
Justin Kroll
I'm doing good. You not only text me, you used to be the guy that was like the four friends that if the Lions lost in heartbreaking fashion, just text, like, brutal or like, I'm sorry, man. Like, you were of that group and it was, like, instantaneous. There was like a Bears game where they lost, like, heartbreakingly.
- [28:52]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah.
- [28:53]
Justin Kroll
10 seconds after.
- [28:54]
Jerry Ferrara
How do you.
- [28:55]
Matt Leinart
How do you. By the way, my best friend is a diehard Lions fan as well. She grew up in Detroit and she's like, She's. She's live probably like you like the worst years, the bad years. She's always been a fan and obviously now the Lions are. Are back and maybe the best team in the NFL. How do you. How do you look at, like, the new fans, like, the bandwagoner fans? Does that piss you off or is it like, hey, come on board, like, shit, we need. We need all the help we can get.
- [29:22]
Justin Kroll
Not at all. I mean, like, I, I like being a team that people are.
- [29:26]
Jerry Ferrara
Are for.
- [29:27]
Justin Kroll
But, like, I know where I've been in the mud. Like, to me, like, my favorite actually isn't the Lions fans that have just showed up. It's like kind of these, like, the Rams fans have started trying to start a rivalry because they just assumed that they got Stafford, they'd always be better. And now we're year four of this trade, and we've been three out of the four years, had a better record.
- [29:46]
Jerry Ferrara
Than them and the playoff, but they.
- [29:48]
Matt Leinart
Did but they did win a Super Bowl.
- [29:50]
Justin Kroll
Yes, they listen. They get that. Oh, by all means. They still have the trade one.
- [29:54]
Matt Leinart
You guys are better. Yeah, for sure.
- [29:55]
Justin Kroll
But like my whole thing with them is, is like because they're chirpy about the loss and I'm like, don't be mad about the refs. Be mad that Sean McVay punted the ball. Also, speaking of the Rams, since I have to teach you guys a lesson since most you started rooting for the team in 2020.
- [30:09]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah. Your.
- [30:10]
Justin Kroll
Your team made the super bowl by possibly the most egregious non call in sports. Sports history. They had to change the rules. So stop with the ref.
- [30:19]
Matt Leinart
What, What. What call was that, by the way?
- [30:21]
Jerry Ferrara
I'm not a Rams pass interference.
- [30:24]
Justin Kroll
Saints where he like the guy like, oh, that's right. While the ball was in the air. They changed the rule. They did that like you can review past interference for like a year.
- [30:33]
Jerry Ferrara
And so I feel like I, I always would text you because like I'm a Knicks fan. So I know what that mud you speak of is like. And I also know the PTSD that comes with certain teams. Lord knows you have it the worst. I. When I tweeted that thing about maybe we should take the Cowboys or Lions off Thanksgiving, who was the person? First person I heard from Kroll, like, yeah, man, great, we're finally good. You want to take us off Thanksgiving? What a friend you are. So I'm saying this in a. I am making this a non. We're taking superstition out. I'm barely going to mention the word. Let's just say if potentially, if the.
- [31:06]
Matt Leinart
Detroit Lions make it to New Orleans.
- [31:08]
Jerry Ferrara
Find themselves going to New Orleans around February for whatever their reasons are. Does Justin Kroll purchase a ticket or get a ticket through various Hollywood connections? Yes, for sure. Like you're there.
- [31:20]
Justin Kroll
There's money. I wouldn't even. But wait for someone to reach out. There's money put away that my wife does not know.
- [31:26]
Jerry Ferrara
You have a fund, by the way. More.
- [31:28]
Matt Leinart
More importantly, who's your plus one? Is it your wife or is it.
- [31:31]
Jerry Ferrara
Your buddy or is she with the kid? Is she.
- [31:34]
Justin Kroll
She wouldn't go.
- [31:35]
Matt Leinart
I would say you're not bringing the wife to that. It would.
- [31:37]
Justin Kroll
I don't know because like, again, my dad and brother are not as. I'm the biggest Lions fan. I know. I'm not trying to like overzimphi. It just. I own that too. I enjoy being in LA and just being like that guy. I don't. I'd go by myself, probably. Like, that's where it's at.
- [31:51]
Jerry Ferrara
I really save a little money, too. Well, I like cash.
- [31:54]
Justin Kroll
So expensive. Like, I don't even know who I would. I mean, listen, Jerry, if you were like, I'm going, let's do it. But I wouldn't want to put that pressure.
- [32:01]
Matt Leinart
But I will be there.
- [32:02]
Justin Kroll
I. I have.
- [32:03]
Jerry Ferrara
We're going to be there.
- [32:04]
Justin Kroll
It's. I've been to eight Rose Bowls, by the way. My first Rose Bowl, I saw John Navarre play Mr. Matt Leiner. There you go. So I've been to World Bar.
- [32:18]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, like, we played. We played it. We played in Arizona together.
- [32:22]
Justin Kroll
Oh, really?
- [32:22]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, he was. I got. He was there. He got drafted there, I think two years. Yeah, two years prior to me.
- [32:29]
Justin Kroll
I think he played the Lions, actually. Yeah, Detroit. That's too funny. I've been to World Series, Sam. I've done. I've done everything but, like, the Derby and Super Bowl. And I said, I will not go to a Super bowl. Even when it was in la. I'm like, I'm not going until my team's in it for the first time. So that, that means something to me. So, yes, there's a fundamental. I'm sure some people would also, like, feel like they would want to help me, but I have.
- [32:52]
Jerry Ferrara
I would. I know, but I want to put this out there. I ca. I went to my first super bowl last year. The Chiefs win in Vegas. I've been to other Super Bowls, but I always left before the game. I'd go attend the parties, win a beach ball mvp, and then get out of there before the game. But I went and did some content for BetMGM. If. So if all these potential weird things happen and if the Lions had found themselves in New Orleans, you for sure, if I had two, I would be like, you know what, Carl? Keep that fund going. Put it with the kids. 529. Anybody that's watching this, let's go.
- [33:26]
Justin Kroll
Get to me fast, because I'm going. I, I listen, I don't want to be blamed for a jinx, but I may have been looking at, like, we should stop.
- [33:35]
Jerry Ferrara
We should stop now.
- [33:36]
Justin Kroll
Last year, I may at halftime, been looking during that Niner game because, like, I was working quickly.
- [33:42]
Matt Leinart
I. I think I'm. I'm already. I've already said it. This isn't. I already said Lions, Bills, Super Bowl. That's what's going to be. I've been saying that for a long time.
- [33:49]
Justin Kroll
I'm just enjoying this season. By the way, like, everyone that's like, I just want to appreciate it because it's like a really once in a lifetime. Like everyone talking about this is the first time they've ever been favored. They like, if they win one more game, it's the most in team history. All these things. I'm just like, it truly is probably one of the best teams. And we're talking about Red Wings and those Pistons teams from the 2000s, the Tiger Road, the Scherzer Verlander teams, you know, MI 97, like Michigan last year, some great izzo teams. But this, I. I wasn't. I don't consider the bad boys teams my team, but because I wasn't really watching teams till I was seven. But this is from a regular season standpoint, easily the best team I've watched top to bottom.
- [34:30]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, let's just say for me there's always. There's a few teams every now and then that I'm like, you know, it would be really nice if this team won. The Cub were one. Obviously my Knicks are one for. Even if I wasn't Knicks fan, right? And the Lions for sure, for sure in the NFL are the team I'd be most happy for their fan base having no affiliation other than being friends with you. We wanted to do something fun today as we're doing our year in review. I. I kind of prepped everybody earlier, but I want to look at film and a little television and just movies in Hollywood in a different way. Kind of cross it over with sports. Instead of saying like the best actor was. We're gonna do some categories. I think the categories we came up with are our rookie of the year, which also. It's funny, Matt Damon has the famous quote of yeah, I was an overnight sensation after trying to get into a movie for 10 years, right? It's like even though they're rookies, we're basically just saying our younger actors who are on the rise, even though they might have been doing it for a while then the one I'm most excited for is comeback actor of the year. We've talked about it with NFL, like, who's going to be the comeback player of the year? It seems like that a week to getting locked up. Perfect example. Like I thought Travolta and Pulp Fiction is example number one of what a comeback actor. And then last but not least, we have male, female, MVP and that criteria, which we're leaving totally up to you. To me, it's like, yeah, performance in movies, it's a little box office success. It's maybe things they have set Up. So I'm excited to see what you have today. But before we get to the awards, I took my two kids alone last week. Bri was working. I took them to see Moana too. And you're someone I text a lot about movies in general. One of my prouder days is when you broke the story of I was going to maybe play Arturo Gaddy. That movie didn't happen, unfortunately. Kroll wrote a straight article. Strahan was producing. You wrote a glowing article about how I'm going to. I'm a perfect person to play Arturo Gaddy in the movie fell apart.
- [36:31]
Matt Leinart
Did you tell him to do that too, just so you can get some more? You know, I didn't.
- [36:35]
Justin Kroll
I mean, sometimes you want to add to these stories, but a little juice. Well, Jerry didn't. Mr.
- [36:41]
Matt Leinart
I'll say. Did Jerry text you?
- [36:42]
Jerry Ferrara
Brad Slater.
- [36:43]
Matt Leinart
Brad Slater.
- [36:44]
Justin Kroll
Probably. Probably.
- [36:45]
Jerry Ferrara
Matt knows Brad Slater well. Brad Slater special. So I love it. You know you have a young son as well. Matt has two young sons. I have. So it really hit me when I was at the movies, like, I gave each kid, like, a little bag of popcorn. I was ready to leave at any moment. I'm like, the minute this turns back, especially with my little guy, my.
- [37:04]
Justin Kroll
You have.
- [37:05]
Jerry Ferrara
I was ready to go. You've taken your son to, like, premieres. Almost. Right. Of movies. He really wanted something with special screening. Six premieres.
- [37:14]
Justin Kroll
He's over 20 movies at this point.
- [37:16]
Jerry Ferrara
So. Yeah. What's. Is there a secret? Like, how did you master. Because now that's your. Your son's thing is movies now. Right.
- [37:23]
Justin Kroll
I mean, he's into everything. Toys, right. Wrestling moves off our couch. Like almost five. So it's. It's. It's a lot. But I have three rules for taking a kid these days to the movies. We took to light year in 2022. He's like two and a half years old. Wow. I really. I was like, all right, we're going to do this. I want to see how it goes.
- [37:44]
Jerry Ferrara
And risky.
- [37:45]
Justin Kroll
Three rules. I did. Again, I have one kid compared to the multiple for you, so that makes it slightly easier. The first rule is find the earliest time possible. Like in our.
- [37:56]
Matt Leinart
We get.
- [37:56]
Justin Kroll
We're lucky. We have like theaters that do like 9:30 shows.
- [38:00]
Jerry Ferrara
Even, like, interesting.
- [38:01]
Justin Kroll
Just know if you go to that show, there's. There's absolutely only people with kids who are afraid that they're gonna freak out too. Everyone is on the same wagon. You're in the same train. So let them. And just know. Just let them do what they want to do. If they want to sit on the steps, they want to run around a little bit. As long as they're not screaming.
- [38:19]
Jerry Ferrara
Like just everyone's more accepting of. Yeah.
- [38:21]
Matt Leinart
Imagine there's a lot of people in a 9am show as well.
- [38:24]
Justin Kroll
It was, it was empty. I mean, again, this is like Covid post Covid. I mean, he was boosted and all that stuff. But like, you know, everyone's still kind of nervous to do it, but like, right. No one there. And even since then, like every time I go, it's like a family maybe. Like that's.
- [38:38]
Jerry Ferrara
That's a good rule. I like that second rule.
- [38:40]
Justin Kroll
Snacks, snacks, snacks. Sneak them in, buy them, do what I don't care about. Like keep him snacking snacks and a drink and just like make sure he knows. And maybe make sure he has a diaper if he doesn't potty trained or just go to the. Go to the bathroom before you enter that thing. And the third rule is you have to be willing to leave at any moment. Like if he's like, I'm out, I need to go. The money's nothing. You just need to go. So he's been good the whole time. He's done everything from took him to Red one, which is like probably the most adult thing he's been.
- [39:10]
Jerry Ferrara
Red One?
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Matt Leinart
Yeah.
- [39:12]
Justin Kroll
Just to see how we do.
- [39:13]
Jerry Ferrara
It's been the more premieres than I have.
- [39:15]
Justin Kroll
That wasn't a premiere. That was just. That was the busiest screen. He went to the. He went to the Moana premiere. Like, this kid's so spoiled. We did a screening of Despicable Me which is just like. You go. It's on the. It's the media screen that they call it.
- [39:30]
Jerry Ferrara
Right.
- [39:30]
Justin Kroll
He walks out and he's like, where's the party at, dad?
- [39:33]
Jerry Ferrara
Oh, the ad. He wanted to know what the after.
- [39:34]
Justin Kroll
Party was because two weeks earlier, Inside.
- [39:37]
Jerry Ferrara
Out too, and there was an after.
- [39:38]
Justin Kroll
Party and it was like a bash. Like it was. Disney threw it right to the point where he's jaded ever since.
- [39:45]
Matt Leinart
So, dude, I'm gonna have to call you to get on some of these lists.
- [39:47]
Jerry Ferrara
You guys, you should.
- [39:48]
Justin Kroll
Oh, I can't. Yeah, I'll at least point it. Listen, if you emailed one of these people that it's like, oh, Lionheart, I. I would at least put my name on it and then explain. I think that's Matt Liner.
- [39:58]
Matt Leinart
The hard part for two, I mean, is like my boys, I took them.
- [40:02]
Justin Kroll
To see what are the ages, by the way?
- [40:04]
Matt Leinart
So almost five and three and a half. So, okay, so we're basically. So we're all in the same bay. Yeah, we're all in the same boat. They can. They can that. My wife took them to Moana to. In Miami a couple weeks ago. Um, she said they did great. I took them to Cosm. Have you. Have you guys heard of cosm?
- [40:20]
Justin Kroll
Yep.
- [40:21]
Matt Leinart
The new. So, like, it's in la. Yeah. It's pretty cool, right? So it's like this interactive like thing, Jerry, where you're kind of in a movie theater, but it's like plays a sporty. It's like you're like, you're sitting front row into like an NBA game. Sports. Yeah. So they have one in Dallas, I think. Yeah. So I took him to see Cirque du Soleil, which was like the only thing they could really do. And this was a month ago. And they loved it up until the last 20 minutes. And then. And that's when. That's when they just start beating the out of each other. That's like. It's just like they get a little restless.
- [40:54]
Jerry Ferrara
Switching hour.
- [40:55]
Justin Kroll
Yeah, when I went, it was. I went to Texans Lions for it. And there was a ton of families there. You do have to buy a ticket if you want. Like, it's a breakdown. Like, there's standing room for 20 bucks, which I did because I just wanted to see how it was. There's like a $70 one and then 125 and like the families are there. Like, it's. It does have. It's not like a rowdy bar situation.
- [41:16]
Matt Leinart
We did a whole couch. I mean, we did a whole couch. It was. It was awesome. It was cool. I feel like Jerry and I don't know if Jerry was going there with this, but I feel like movies, the. I feel like they're making a comeback, like going to the theater and. And I just feel. I hear it more from friends are like, oh, we went to the movies this. And it's not necessarily just like Disney movies. Right. Because a lot of our friends are in the same boat. I just feel like it's. Hey, we're gonna go have that experience like we all had growing up, which was amazing. Is that something that you're seeing?
- [41:47]
Justin Kroll
It will never get back to 2019. Like Avengers breaking the all time box office road. But did animated movies, especially, like the families are fine. Like inside out is like broke animated records. Like, it broke frozen. Like, that's where that is where like the like, like I think families are finally over the COVID of it all. They want to show It. And I think people just got tired of watching stuff at home. Like, like, like, I don't know about you, but like, getting out of the house is just so, so important in general. Like, we, like, that's the weekend is where I'm just like, how do I make sure he does not lose his mind in this time? Like, do I go to the park? Do I go. Like, I have a universal pass. But like, the movies are. I am always looking for that. And I feel like you saw it on Thanksgiving weekend. It broke a record 132 million between Moana, Wicked and Gladiator.
- [42:37]
Jerry Ferrara
Gladiator 2.
- [42:38]
Justin Kroll
So everyone. That's a. That's a demographic right there when you have it. So I definitely see it coming back in that way. Animated films especially, because there was like a light year I brought up there was it bombed it, no one showed up. And that seemed like such a slam dunk. And that was like, maybe families just don't want to go anymore. And between Moana, Despicable Me did really well. I mean, families showed up for Deadpool. You don't make one $3 billion if you don't show. Even though it's an R rated movie, like, at least teenagers were going.
- [43:08]
Matt Leinart
Like, it's such a. Like, like, I mean, gosh, it's. It's so cool because it gives them. Jerry and I were like, it's something to look forward to, right? Hey, we're going to the movie on Saturday. Whatever it is. We're going to go see Inside out too. Like, the boys get so excited now. And that's how it was for me growing up, because we didn't have a lot of money. It was like going to a sporting event. Like, we would go to like one Lakers nosebleeds game a year. And it was like our super bowl, you know, like these, like. Like your kid, your kids ask of where the party is after a movie, which is like, you know, that's the world. That's. That's like how we're raising our kids because we're fortunate we get to do these things. I just, I. I don't know. I feel like it's kind of coming back. Which is so awesome because it's such a. It was such a part of my childhood. Like, like getting your popcorn. Like, it seems so simple now, but it's like I'm tired of just streaming shit every night and like, hey, we'll lay on the couch. Like, let's go to the theater. Let's get candy. Let's get a Coke. Let's like, let's do an outing. You know what I mean? Like, and I. I'm hoping it's coming back.
- [44:03]
Justin Kroll
Yeah. I mean like, it's like how I grew up too. It was like with my dad, like go to the movies with my dad and go to a college football game with my dad. Those were like infused in my blood, which is why college football is such a big thing. It's. My wife's a huge college football fan too. And movies. I'm. I still like love taking. I'm not jaded by this job. I still really love it. So that, that plays a huge part too. And I want my kid to enjoy that as well.
- [44:27]
Jerry Ferrara
Have you seen a lot of the. More the non kid movies this year? Like, have you. You've kind of ripped. I. I used to get all the screeners back in the DVD generation. That was the cool part of being in sag. They don't do it as much. It's like they don't really do it because they just. Yeah. And you get digital links or. But again, like you. And like Matt said, I watch stuff at home on the couch. I'm asleep 10 minutes in and it's no offense to what I'm watching. I can't stay awake past 10:00. So what I would say. And everyone said two. Two things. Really? Everyone. You know, the mantra has been within Hollywood, survive till 25. Right. For the movies. You know, there's a lot. There's a good setup for 20, 25, which I want to ask you about in a second. But what have you seen this year that you would say for. All right, you don't want to. You don't have kids or you want to. You and your partner are going to go to a movie. What would you suggest?
- [45:20]
Justin Kroll
I mean, I just kind of closed my. I saw like 100 movies this year between theater at home and like the plane. Like not 100 theatrical like theaters. I have closed my top 10. I would say Dune was my favorite film of the year. I thought that was awesome.
- [45:35]
Jerry Ferrara
I'm halfway through the first one. I'm watching at home. I fell asleep. But not because of the movie. It was. It was midnight. Yeah, it's. I was.
- [45:44]
Matt Leinart
That's your. That's your boy.
- [45:45]
Jerry Ferrara
That's my boy. Tim. We've talked on the show.
- [45:48]
Justin Kroll
We'll get to him and down the.
- [45:49]
Jerry Ferrara
Road, Chalamet and like, like 20 times on this show. I'm so high on him.
- [45:53]
Justin Kroll
Well, you'll like my. You'll like some of my awards.
- [45:55]
Matt Leinart
All Right.
- [45:56]
Jerry Ferrara
Dune.
- [45:58]
Justin Kroll
Well, the Bob Dylan film with Tim, so.
- [46:02]
Jerry Ferrara
All right, okay. Bob Dylan film. That was Bob.
- [46:04]
Justin Kroll
I mean, if you like Walk the Line, it's the same director, James Mangold.
- [46:08]
Jerry Ferrara
Right.
- [46:08]
Justin Kroll
I think it plays very similarly. Like, it's like. Like, I. I was engaged the whole time and just Tim. Monica Boyero, who plays Joan Baez, Edward Norton. Boyd Colbert is Johnny Cash. I want to see that movie now because he's so good.
- [46:23]
Matt Leinart
Yeah.
- [46:24]
Justin Kroll
Really good. I. There's this film called September 5th that's coming out soon.
- [46:27]
Jerry Ferrara
Yes, I've heard a little. Yes.
- [46:30]
Justin Kroll
Munich Games recovered when the terrorist situation happened from the ABC DC desk. Awesome. It's like. It is like, one of the better thrillers of the year. The way they did that. Those are like the.
- [46:42]
Matt Leinart
The big.
- [46:42]
Jerry Ferrara
That's the big three.
- [46:43]
Justin Kroll
Yeah. I would say I don't want to.
- [46:45]
Jerry Ferrara
See Gladiator 2 yet. Or. No, that's.
- [46:46]
Justin Kroll
That's 4. That was. I. I was so entertained by that. How good was it Will never be the original. And it's like, that's just so hard to hit classics. But, like, Denzel is in his role. I think Mezcal is a star. And they were just going for it with some of those. Those action scenes. So that was on my list. And then, like, TV wise. Presumed Innocent was my favorite show.
- [47:07]
Jerry Ferrara
That was great.
- [47:08]
Matt Leinart
So good.
- [47:08]
Jerry Ferrara
That was a great one.
- [47:09]
Justin Kroll
I like disclaimer, too, on Apple. And then this, the recent season of Industry, which is that, like, London, like, financial, hbo, finance.
- [47:19]
Jerry Ferrara
That's so behind. So behind.
- [47:21]
Matt Leinart
Did you watch.
- [47:22]
Justin Kroll
You'll breeze through that.
- [47:23]
Matt Leinart
Did you watch Shrinking?
- [47:24]
Justin Kroll
Love that show.
- [47:26]
Matt Leinart
That's, I think, are my wife and I's favorite.
- [47:28]
Justin Kroll
That's a show where it's similar to Entourage, where I feel like I'm seeing my friends again when it comes back on. Like, I love all those characters. Like, I'm relating to those characters so much. The first season, I kind of love more this one, like, got almost a little dark at times where I was like, kind of like, turned off, but I understood where they're going.
- [47:45]
Matt Leinart
Right.
- [47:46]
Justin Kroll
Goldstein addition, I thought was great. Like, kind of rooting for that character. But yeah, I mean, Harrison Ford is so good in that, like, crotchet, isn't it?
- [47:54]
Matt Leinart
So it's. I feel like it's so. It's such a. Every time I watch, it's such a strange, like, to see him in that show. Right. Because I think of him as Indiana Jones. Like, I just think of him as, like, this. I don't know. But he's great in it. He's fantastic.
- [48:08]
Justin Kroll
The pivot he's done recently with some of the TV stuff because the Yellowstone spin off as well, which I like him in. But yeah, he just kind of just fits perfectly.
- [48:17]
Matt Leinart
He does.
- [48:18]
Justin Kroll
Like, he's not, he's a professional on the show, but he does have those. If you watch his interviews, he kind of is that character a little bit with this like.
- [48:26]
Jerry Ferrara
I'm so excited to become a grumpy man. I don't know, I feel like I've been born and raised to get to that point in life.
- [48:35]
Matt Leinart
We're gonna do something you have to look forward to. Jerry.
- [48:38]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, Matt and I have been talking offline. Like we're gonna, we're gonna do these segments where, you know, Matt also has an older son, I have a 16 year old nephew. And their sports takes are just psychotic at times. But it's like the old vers, the young. So that is gonna be a segment on throwing throwbacks for sure. We're gonna have the first young.
- [48:59]
Justin Kroll
I say this all the time. The people that grew up in the 80s night and 90s just had the best childhood. They had. The sports were better, the TV shows were better. Everything was just these kids don't know anything. I'm showing Jax all the like, like the Batman animated series and yeah, spin and all that stuff. I don't want Coco Melon and Bluey in my house.
- [49:16]
Matt Leinart
Tailspin. So good.
- [49:18]
Jerry Ferrara
Tailspin. I love that show.
- [49:20]
Matt Leinart
So we bring, we've brought back legs like, like All Dogs Go to Heaven, which by the way, sad movie. But like we brought, we brought in some like, brought some of those 90s movies back for our kids and they love it. But it's like I did. This is. You're gonna sit down and watch this.
- [49:34]
Justin Kroll
I did Back to the Future over Thanksgiving and he was engaged in the second one.
- [49:37]
Jerry Ferrara
Like he was really.
- [49:38]
Justin Kroll
I don't think he was following, but he definitely found the visuals and that was like a moment for me.
- [49:43]
Jerry Ferrara
Do you know what? Live action one played well in my house? Air Bud. Air Bud played really well. My 5 year old was just like, this is hilarious. And right after he's like, dad, let's go play basketball. This is how I had to inspire you to watch a dog play basketball. This is what makes you want to play hoops.
- [50:00]
Justin Kroll
This, this, this. His favorite one is Live action is probably Godzilla, King Kong right now. Like he, he thinks your kids, your.
- [50:09]
Jerry Ferrara
Kid'S like gonna be Quentin Tarantino. He's watching everything.
- [50:11]
Justin Kroll
Well, I've been like, he's getting a Little bit more scared of things here and there. So, like, I'll actually screw with them. I'll do like. Like Disney randomly does their Hulu thing. So, like the Alien movie is on, right? Like you'll click on Alien and he'll freak out. Like, no, don't put it on.
- [50:27]
Jerry Ferrara
I freak out Godzilla.
- [50:29]
Matt Leinart
King Kong's a little bit aggressive. For five years, probably my five year old would love it. My three year old would be terrified. My five year old. Yeah, doesn't.
- [50:37]
Justin Kroll
I mean, again, I gauge a little in the best story I have of. Of like not of all time. But like I would have like the TV on in the background and like Fear Fest was on and they would just put like all sorts of horror films on at all points. Day I was doing dinner, I can't watch that. And Jax just comes up. He was probably three. He goes, daddy, the dude with the weird fingers is on right now. He kind of looks scary. I look up, Freddy Cougar is just chopping somebody up. And I was like, click. I gotta change that channel.
- [51:01]
Jerry Ferrara
I can't watch that stuff now. Before we move on to some awards, what. What is coming in 25? That is that mantra, survive till 25. Like what are. What are things that we know are coming? And then second part, you. I always kind of say, like, I don't want to quite do the one for one like your shams in Hollywood, but you, you know, you have to break stuff. You put the. When I know Kroll on Twitter puts. What do you put a bomb usually, like you're gonna drop incoming, right? When Justin puts incoming, you know you're getting some massive casting news. So what are the things that you know are coming that you're excited about in 25 and what are the things that you are working on? Again, you don't have to give away any trade secrets, but the things you Hope break in 2025 one way or the other.
- [51:45]
Justin Kroll
Oh, some stuff coming out. A lot of. So the reason it was called Survivor25 is that you had the dual writing acting strikes and they had to push films out because actors couldn't promote their movies. So like Challengers was supposed to come out in September of 23, came out in April, April 24. And then all the movies in 24 pushed to 25. So you only had one Marvel movie this year, for instance, it was Deadpool. Huge ship. But like that and just never has happened in recent years. Next year we have three. We have a new Captain America with Anthony Mackie taking over the shield.
- [52:14]
Jerry Ferrara
Right.
- [52:14]
Justin Kroll
Because he switched. They switched that in the TV show.
- [52:17]
Jerry Ferrara
I love Mackie. I've golfed with Mackie. He's hilarious.
- [52:19]
Justin Kroll
Oh, he's the best. I know. I've hung out. He always. He calls me Detroit because, like, he's done some Detroit movies. So he's like, yay, Detroit.
- [52:25]
Jerry Ferrara
And I'm like, Guy was an 8 mile, right?
- [52:27]
Justin Kroll
8 mile.
- [52:27]
Matt Leinart
He did well.
- [52:28]
Justin Kroll
He also filmed a bunch like, I think like Real Steel, that Hugh Jackman movie with Shawn Levy on there.
- [52:33]
Jerry Ferrara
That's.
- [52:33]
Justin Kroll
He's been in Detroit a couple times. So there's that. There's Thunderbolts, which is like Marvel's version of Suicide Squad, which is like Florence Pugh's character.
- [52:42]
Jerry Ferrara
Yep.
- [52:43]
Justin Kroll
Winter Soldier all teamed together. And then the big ones. Fantastic Four finally getting rebooted with Pedro and Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn in the Johnny Storm role. And then you'll. I mean, the summer is stacked. There is the new Jurassic World movie with Scarlett Johansson coming out. There is the Superman movie coming out that everyone's pretty excited about. Brad Pitt has this F1 racing movie that they've been teasing.
- [53:06]
Jerry Ferrara
I saw when I was pumped. So when I was just in Vegas for F1, my room had a view of the track. And at like 2 in the morning, I just hear. And I wake up, I open the shade.
- [53:18]
Justin Kroll
Yeah.
- [53:18]
Jerry Ferrara
And there's cars flying around and there's like some guy standing in the middle of the track like, what the hell? It was Brad Pitt. They were filming like reshoots for the F1 movie. Well, they. They were doing add ons. Right.
- [53:29]
Justin Kroll
Their whole thing was cat like. Because it had to push because of the strike. They had to get these additional shots.
- [53:34]
Jerry Ferrara
Right.
- [53:34]
Justin Kroll
So that was one of the.
- [53:35]
Jerry Ferrara
I watched them filming that from my hotel window at 2:30 in the morning. I went room service and watched.
- [53:40]
Justin Kroll
And then you have another Avatar film also coming out too at the end of the year. And then the one I'm actually excited really is Sinners with. It's Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler reuniting on like a vampire movie set in Jim Crow South. It looks fancy. He plays twins in it. It looks awesome.
- [53:56]
Jerry Ferrara
Oh, he plays dual roles.
- [53:59]
Justin Kroll
That's an adult. That's a date night movie that I would suggest.
- [54:01]
Jerry Ferrara
Right. Leave. You're gonna leave. Leave the kids at home.
- [54:03]
Justin Kroll
And then they're like, Kid White. There's a How to Save youe Dragon live action movie that I think is like. That's something Jax is getting into is that movie.
- [54:11]
Matt Leinart
It's a great movie.
- [54:12]
Justin Kroll
A couple Pixar films. Zootopia 2 is gonna come. Come out, which will probably. So we got a big.
- [54:16]
Jerry Ferrara
This is a. It's a big. 25 is a big year. If this goes well, I won't say we're back, but we'll say, okay, we now know officially what movies and box office is like. This is how it work functions now. I'm excited for that Harry Potter show. Is it true? I read the Deadline article too. I think one of your co workers wrote about just the secrecy of the time.
- [54:38]
Justin Kroll
I worked on that.
- [54:39]
Jerry Ferrara
You worked on that story?
- [54:40]
Justin Kroll
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [54:41]
Jerry Ferrara
It's. It's like one of the most tight lipped projects.
- [54:44]
Justin Kroll
That's a Nolan movie. It's the hardest thing to find news out about right now because it's done in London. It's harder to Track and the NDA's on it.
- [54:52]
Jerry Ferrara
Like it's just crazy.
- [54:54]
Justin Kroll
Crazy. But I, I'm. The nice thing about that is like if you read any books, they leave so much out from the movies because there's so much detail that I actually think this will work for a new generation kind of thing because like the people that like watch those movies are just me and Matt's age now. So like. And Jerry's.
- [55:10]
Jerry Ferrara
Sorry, I'm older than. I'm a lot older than you got. Matt hates when I say I'm a lot older than four. Here.
- [55:15]
Matt Leinart
We're in the same deck. We're the same.
- [55:17]
Jerry Ferrara
I'm a whole high school person. Older that is.
- [55:19]
Justin Kroll
Yeah. When you're a whole high school.
- [55:21]
Matt Leinart
I guess when you put it that way.
- [55:22]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah.
- [55:22]
Matt Leinart
You're old. Yeah.
- [55:23]
Justin Kroll
Like you wouldn't have gone to school with me.
- [55:25]
Matt Leinart
And me.
- [55:26]
Justin Kroll
That's, that's.
- [55:27]
Jerry Ferrara
Or I might have been a senior. You guys would have been a freshman. I could have picked on you guys like days. And if you alo. Matt was six five.
- [55:33]
Matt Leinart
I was nine inches taller than you when I was eight years old. Old.
- [55:35]
Justin Kroll
What grade were you in the Rose bowl against Navarre?
- [55:40]
Matt Leinart
I was red shirt. So I graduated high school in 01. Oh.
- [55:43]
Jerry Ferrara
Two years older.
- [55:44]
Matt Leinart
Oh yeah.
- [55:45]
Justin Kroll
So yeah.
- [55:45]
Matt Leinart
So okay. I just turned 41 in May.
- [55:49]
Justin Kroll
Okay. All right. So that. Yes, similar. Yeah. So we know similar TV shows from the 90s, of course.
- [55:54]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, 2025 looks incredible. Amazing. But let's talk about 2024 and do some awards now. Okay. We thought through this. We know the format. Do you have the order you'd like to go?
- [56:07]
Justin Kroll
Well, you want to do rookie comeback.
- [56:09]
Jerry Ferrara
And then the Rookie Comeback. Okay, so let's hear it. So we got first one's gonna be our rookie of the year for actors, which I think is a great way to look at this one. The Oscars should do this.
- [56:22]
Justin Kroll
Yes. So this one was a little tougher, but I went based on, like, the Oscar pedigree stuff. I'm going Mickey Madison from Anora, which is. Oh, that's another film. If you. That's like the under the radar film.
- [56:31]
Jerry Ferrara
Yes.
- [56:32]
Justin Kroll
It's excellent. Director Sean Baker, who's done a lot of these, like, independent films that have popped at the Oscars, you'll know she's.
- [56:38]
Jerry Ferrara
From Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Right.
- [56:40]
Justin Kroll
This isn't a rookie. This is her first big leading role.
- [56:43]
Jerry Ferrara
Right.
- [56:43]
Justin Kroll
Everybody will remember her from getting like. Like barbecue.
- [56:47]
Jerry Ferrara
She's the one that. Leo. Barbecue with the flamethrower, Right? Yeah. She's awesome.
- [56:50]
Justin Kroll
She's one of the mans. But, like, ironically like that. Those. His cast in that movie under is under the radar. Awesome. For unknowns like Sydney Sweeney. Austin Butler was one of those. Mickey, like, Maya Hawk was like the Manson kids who go to, like, Storm. Brad and Leo.
- [57:07]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah.
- [57:07]
Justin Kroll
Are like, stars now.
- [57:10]
Matt Leinart
One of the girls that did that, she's one.
- [57:12]
Justin Kroll
She opens the door for Brad to.
- [57:13]
Jerry Ferrara
Go when they go to the ranch. You know, when Brad Pitt goes to the ranch. Sydney Sweeney also. Who did she. Margaret. Quality. Yes. It's like. It really is.
- [57:24]
Justin Kroll
You re watch that movie and you're like this person.
- [57:26]
Matt Leinart
That's the way to rewatch that movie. Yeah.
- [57:28]
Justin Kroll
Yeah.
- [57:28]
Jerry Ferrara
I watched it on the plane to LA last month and I thought the same thing. Like, wow. Like, if you look at this like a rookie draft class, just this movie. There's first round picks everywhere.
- [57:38]
Justin Kroll
It's the Lions last year class. Like, it's Gibbs, LaPorta and Jack.
- [57:43]
Jerry Ferrara
Well played. Crawl. Well played. Okay, I like that. That's a great call.
- [57:47]
Justin Kroll
She's fantastic. Try to find that. But that's that. I think if I had. She is right there in the mix to win the Oscar this year. Like that. She's that good in it. So that would be. If you're. If you're in that sort of category, you get rookie of the year if it's your first big leading role.
- [58:01]
Jerry Ferrara
Damn.
- [58:05]
Justin Kroll
Let's come back.
- [58:06]
Jerry Ferrara
Come back after. You're my favorite because this was interesting.
- [58:10]
Justin Kroll
I was trying to do it and this person had a. Since COVID they've had a couple theatrical things that just didn't hit as well. Well. And I'm going Gyllenhaal. Jake. I think Roadhouse. I think even though it didn't go theatrical really.
- [58:23]
Jerry Ferrara
Right.
- [58:24]
Justin Kroll
A moment in the springtime where everyone was watching it. It was the water cooler film. Everyone wanted to see it. Good or bad. Like, oh, I don't remember. Make this. Oh, I want to see this.
- [58:32]
Jerry Ferrara
But he's jacked, of course.
- [58:33]
Justin Kroll
I think that movie played really well. And I think it was something that, like, I think it was the film that mainly streamed that did the best of everything that you remember in 24 and really popped again. And then like after that kind of died down, Presumed Innocent comes out. And that is the show of the summer that everyone was talking.
- [58:51]
Matt Leinart
It was incredible.
- [58:52]
Justin Kroll
See what happened. I think he's gonna be in the Emmy conversation now. He just got a Globe nomination. So he like. It wasn't like he had like, was in like actor jail like Travolta and when before he did Pulp Fiction. But he had a couple bumps with Ambulance and that guy Ritchie movie. Just not having the same sort of pop at the box office office this year. I think he really did well. And then next year I actually just bought this taking my wife to New York. For her, it was a birthday present. We're gonna go see Othello. It's him in Denzel in the springtime.
- [59:20]
Jerry Ferrara
Oh, that locks it up. MVP. Wow.
- [59:22]
Justin Kroll
That's a comeback 12 month stretch right there where he's.
- [59:25]
Jerry Ferrara
Some might say that's almost an MVP bid. Like, that's very Sam Darnold. Like you could have. Well have the conversation that he could be MVP as well.
- [59:34]
Justin Kroll
We kind of already teased my MVP better from earlier because I named two of my three films. But we'll get there in a second.
- [59:39]
Jerry Ferrara
We'll get there because it's a sponsored segment as well. So we'll get there then.
- [59:43]
Justin Kroll
And then you want to do the sponsor or.
- [59:45]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, so. All right, so this is how we set this up every week. We do our Wendy's can't get enough sauce moment of the year. I needed a drink of water anyway. And we try to figure out either. Usually it's with sports, a player or a team. That's our saucy moment that we cannot get enough of. So for our male and female mvp, we're gonna use that for our Wendy's can't get enough sauce moment of the week. So let's go first with. Let's do Men first. Who is the male MVP actor of 2024, the gentleman MVP. It's Chalamet.
- [60:21]
Justin Kroll
Yeah.
- [60:22]
Jerry Ferrara
Wow.
- [60:22]
Justin Kroll
If you, if you go from year to year, people forget Wonka was a year from now that Wonka 625 million at the box up. And that owned basically the first two months of the year where like when no, nothing was really coming out that made its money. He got like a Globe nom for that, I believe.
- [60:38]
Jerry Ferrara
Yep.
- [60:38]
Justin Kroll
And it's like it launched a new franchise for him. Then that film dies down and Dune comes out, which is like basically doing this big time until Inside Out Huge is going to be in the Oscar race. Now, obviously not everyone's going to see that because of him, but like, without him, I don't think the film is necessarily working.
- [60:55]
Jerry Ferrara
And then.
- [60:56]
Justin Kroll
And then this complete unknown. I think he's getting an Oscar now on for. He's fantastic in it. It's gonna come out Christmas. And like kind of. He. He ate all factors. He did the family film. He did your tent pole. And now he has this like acting piece that like really showed his stature, I feel like.
- [61:11]
Jerry Ferrara
And as we pointed out a few weeks back, stellar sports knowledge for someone.
- [61:18]
Matt Leinart
By the way, that was the most shocking thing I've ever seen.
- [61:20]
Jerry Ferrara
That rounds out the MVP case.
- [61:22]
Justin Kroll
This poor kid. Just because he goes to nyu, everyone's like, he can't be.
- [61:26]
Matt Leinart
I know. Watch Ball totally stereotyped him. This kid is like a die hard sports fan.
- [61:31]
Justin Kroll
Like, I mean, the Ohio pick in the Mac. Mac championship was crazy because that was just like none of those guys on that board. I'm sure you're in that position too, where you have to pick a game. You're like, I have no idea what. I can't watch everything. Like, that was nuts to nail that because they blew him out.
- [61:46]
Matt Leinart
How old, how old is he? Mid-20s.
- [61:48]
Jerry Ferrara
Is he 27?
- [61:50]
Justin Kroll
27. I think he's in later now, but he's.
- [61:52]
Jerry Ferrara
I go harder for the Knicks thing. That popped up.
- [61:54]
Matt Leinart
The next thing was great.
- [61:55]
Jerry Ferrara
We talked about, like hunting Landry Fields down in the middle of Manhattan somewhere to answer a trivia question to win tickets to the Knicks game.
- [62:02]
Justin Kroll
He also seems like a really downer, dude. Like, he go. He went to the Timothy Chalamet lookalike contest and was like screwing with people.
- [62:09]
Jerry Ferrara
He's the MVP crawl. You're right.
- [62:10]
Justin Kroll
Yeah.
- [62:11]
Jerry Ferrara
Is the male mvp. Wrap it up. Give him the trophy, clap it up, and we'll see if he can go back to back. I mean, he's actually. He's 28. He's gonna be 29 December 27th. So under third. He's Mahomes. He's got. He's Mahomes.
- [62:27]
Justin Kroll
Yeah. It feels like he's been around forever. Well, it was Interesting. He's at that game and I forgot that he did Interstellar.
- [62:34]
Jerry Ferrara
I watched Interstellar last week on a plane and he's an Interstellar.
- [62:38]
Justin Kroll
Yeah. So that's the other thing that's kind of.
- [62:40]
Jerry Ferrara
All right. We got to get him on this pod, by the way, that we have to make that happen. Now. Who is our Wendy's. Can't get enough sauce. Female MVP actor.
- [62:50]
Justin Kroll
Ironically, he's his co star. I'm Zendaya. I'm. I think she's. I think she's it now. I like. She is a big reason isn't just as of Dune because again, like that. You can't really base that on box office. But she's like that again. That was as much her film as it was Timmy's. I feel like this time around. But this film, Challengers.
- [63:08]
Matt Leinart
Is that the tennis movie?
- [63:10]
Justin Kroll
Yes, yes. 90 million globally. And that film, like in this day and age when a film like that, that was kind of done for streamers, but gets the theatrical thing, that's an impressive feat. And people were only going to that movie because of her. Sorry. Josh O'Connor and you and the Crown fans, Mike Face. No one really knew who you were. They showed up for her and I mean, that doesn't seem like a huge number, but in this day and age when that drama is just so hard to get people in theaters for, I think she locked that up too. And anytime she has something coming, people lose their minds over it. This a 20.
- [63:42]
Matt Leinart
She's a superstar.
- [63:43]
Justin Kroll
Yeah. Yeah.
- [63:44]
Jerry Ferrara
And she still has like in the chamber. If they get to it, they have euphoria. If they get to it in the chamber. That's. That's waiting.
- [63:52]
Matt Leinart
Can I tell you guys my mvp? My. Yeah, I just actually want to get Justin. How about Glenn Powell?
- [63:58]
Justin Kroll
Yeah, I mean, like, I. I would have given it to him in 23.
- [64:02]
Matt Leinart
Well, that's what I said. Like I. Twister, Hitman, anyone but you. I just. And then I think he's filming a pop.
- [64:09]
Justin Kroll
Is he Chad Powers?
- [64:11]
Matt Leinart
That's right.
- [64:12]
Jerry Ferrara
Chad.
- [64:12]
Matt Leinart
I just feel like. Like he's like, he had a big year. Like he's had a big couple years.
- [64:16]
Justin Kroll
I think I slightly give it to Timmy because just the.
- [64:19]
Matt Leinart
No for sure.
- [64:20]
Justin Kroll
Yeah. But like, Glenn is like runner up probably.
- [64:22]
Matt Leinart
If I had.
- [64:23]
Justin Kroll
If you had the runner up numbers, he would be. He'd be getting first place.
- [64:26]
Jerry Ferrara
He got a few first place votes, like from liner. He got one.
- [64:29]
Matt Leinart
That was.
- [64:31]
Justin Kroll
I. I would like to see him stretch. I mean, listen, he's trying to build the movie. Star status. That one like I guess Hitman was kind of that. But the like film that like Timmy's like a Bob. The Bob.
- [64:40]
Matt Leinart
Of course. Yeah.
- [64:41]
Justin Kroll
He shows that acting range.
- [64:42]
Matt Leinart
Yeah.
- [64:43]
Justin Kroll
Because I think he is a really good actor.
- [64:44]
Matt Leinart
I agree.
- [64:45]
Jerry Ferrara
Justin, can't thank you enough. This, you know, we're trying to find friends of the show. I think you're our first friend of the show.
- [64:51]
Justin Kroll
One more. The saddest moment of the year was listening to the triple option and Urban Meyer talking about that Michigan, Ohio State game. That. That was the saddest.
- [65:01]
Jerry Ferrara
Shots fired. I love it.
- [65:03]
Matt Leinart
Wait, did you see. Did you see that in Ohio State lawmaker, the bill that he's proposing.
- [65:10]
Justin Kroll
He's a Michigan fan. He's trolling. He's a Michigan fan.
- [65:12]
Matt Leinart
Oh really?
- [65:12]
Justin Kroll
Up in Ann Arbor or Toledo. That's what all of our school guys are saying. Don't go for it. It's a troll.
- [65:18]
Matt Leinart
So he. He got me.
- [65:19]
Jerry Ferrara
Flag planting is a felony.
- [65:21]
Matt Leinart
Flag planning is a felon. Melanie. I was like how soft could you be? Oh, I'm almost.
- [65:27]
Justin Kroll
Everyone was calling the guy out like he's. He's. He's is Ohio but grew up. He's. It sounds like he's a Michigan fan.
- [65:33]
Jerry Ferrara
From all has to be a troll because I mean you can't take it.
- [65:37]
Matt Leinart
So obviously that's actually great.
- [65:40]
Jerry Ferrara
Oh man, buddy, you're the best. Yeah. Thanks for coming on. We'll get you back in 25 and see if we are surviving. Good luck to your Detroit Lions. I will not text you. I'll just text you happy things.
- [65:52]
Justin Kroll
You can text me when you want. I appreciate it but.
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Jerry Ferrara
And maybe we'll see you. Maybe we'll see you in New Orleans. Maybe we'll do. Maybe the next episode we'll do. Maybe we're all in New Orleans. Who knows?
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Justin Kroll
Well, hopefully my wife doesn't listen to this because then she's gonna ask where that. Where that fund is hidden somewhere.
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Jerry Ferrara
Good point. Good point. Thank you, Justin.
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Matt Leinart
See you guys later, buddy.
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Jerry Ferrara
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Jerry Ferrara
All right, it's time for money moments. One of my favorite new segments we're doing presented by our friends over at Cash App. Sending, spending, saving, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting, or just typing in numbers. All with the number one finance app in the App Store. That's money, that's Cash App. So with this week, we're going to do it so it's a team or a player, a person that we are counting on to be money in 2025. Matt, we're looking ahead. Who do you got for 2025?
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Matt Leinart
So I got two really quick. I can't believe I'm saying this. Bill Belichick. Bill, Big Bill in college football taking over, you know, this month, obviously the, the North Carolina head coaching job. And I think I'm excited for it. Like, I don't know, like, I'm still like trying to process like what he's going to be like on the sidelines for, for North Carolina in the acc, how he's going to recruit high school kids. And I know it's built more like the NFL these days with nil and all those things and like he's got his general manager and all this stuff. I Get all that. But like just his coaching style and what he, what he brings to the game, how it's going to translate over into the college football level with a bunch of 18, 19 and 20 year old kids that are now making a lot of money. I just think it's fascinating. I'm happy, you know, I, I think like, like he still goes down as one of the greatest to ever do it and now he's in the college football rank. So that's one I'm looking forward to. And then the other one is a college football player named Arch Manning. I am, I am excited to see because I've seen him, he's, he's played at times this year. I am excited to see the next Manning take over. And a lot of people say that he's, he's probably the best athlete of all of them, which I would say he is obviously chasing his two, his two uncles. But Arch Manning, a lot of hype. Great kid, will be the starting quarterback for Texas next year. I'm excited to see what he brings to college football.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yours are so good. I have to comment.
- [70:17]
Matt Leinart
Comment.
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Jerry Ferrara
Well, the Belichick thing, first of all, I love that also. Mike Lombardi is his gm, which have you ever used the term GM for college football?
- [70:27]
Matt Leinart
It's all over college football now because you need, you basically need a person that is a gen that, that can build a roster. Like right. It's literally that. And that's part of the reason why Belichick, you know, when they were going through all these negotiations, there were a lot of points like, like he wants to be a football coach, but he needs to hire someone that can handle all the other shit these coaches are dealing with. A lot of coaches are dealing with roster management. How do we pay? Like they don't want to deal with that. They want to just call plays X's and O's and have other, have a whole team. So that's how a lot of these teams are being built and that's certainly how North Carolina is going to be built.
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Jerry Ferrara
The other thing I'm most excited for, like a lot of people, my favorite colorway for uniforms, sneakers all is Carolina blue. How do you not love that? So we're gonna see Belichick in that ratty hoodie, cut up sleeve everything but, except it's going to be Carolina blue.
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Matt Leinart
With the Jordan logo.
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Jerry Ferrara
If they put Jordans on, please, Bill.
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Matt Leinart
Bell, he's gonna have to wear Jordans, please.
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Jerry Ferrara
I, I feel like he could put in this contract. I'm gonna wear whatever shoes I want. Don't bother me. Please come out with your ratty North Carolina blue hoodie and some. And some Tar Heel Jordans. Oh, I just, I. By the way, I'm excited for that moment, by the way.
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Matt Leinart
Somehow, somehow we talk about Phil Knight with Oregon and all that Nike money.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah.
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Matt Leinart
I don't know how much money Jordan gives to unc, but something tells me that that was probably part of this deal. That, that that collective is going to be a little bit bigger for North Carolina. That's going to be exciting. It's crazy, man.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, it is crazy to have Indiana playing good football. North Carolina's future looks for all the college basketball teams we've gotten so used to now penetrating the football world. I think it's really, really cool.
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Matt Leinart
Kansas football has been better. Like, it's. Yeah, we talk about all the time on the show. Syracuse had a great year in football, like all of these traditional basketball school. Duke had a great year in football. Duke won, gosh, nine games this year. Eight games this year. Yeah. So it's cool, man. It's. It's. It's good for those schools, right, when they have both sports playing well.
- [72:29]
Jerry Ferrara
And the Arch Manning, that's a great one. I. There's a part of me that really wishes he was coming out this year while the Giant. Because I really would love him to be on the Giants. I just.
- [72:39]
Matt Leinart
He needs. He needs a little bit of time. But that kid is going to be. He's.
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Jerry Ferrara
He.
- [72:43]
Matt Leinart
I'm telling you right now. Here, here. This could be my take. He will be the number one pick in the draft. When he comes. When he comes out, he's that. I think he's that good. And we've seen it. We've seen it this year. We've seen the glimpses. Because he could run. He's big. Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
So, yeah, the. The Giants draft was my number two for my, for my money moment in 2025. My real money moment, though. And it's what every New York Knicks fan is thinking is, what is this New York Knicks team going to be like come April and May during playoff time? Because right now it's been okay. It's been good. I think it's been great.
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Matt Leinart
Okay.
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Jerry Ferrara
It's been just okay. They've lost a lot of games to teams they should have be. They've lost to the Hawks twice. They lost to the Pistons. Shout out. Justin Crowley tweet. He texted me right after that game, you know, and a few signature wins. When it looks good, it looks really good. And they put up 130. Which is also weird to see from a Knicks team to put up 130 points with Tibbs because they're so defensive. But it has not gelled yet. And we are all in. This is the team. I mean, maybe there'll be a smaller trade, but they are all in. And the Knick fans, talk about freezing cold takes. There's a lot of us, me included, coming into this season. You could look back in June and say, whoa, were all these meathead Knick fans wrong? So for me, the thing I am looking forward to, I'm counting on. I need the Knicks to be money. So that is my cash out money moment. The New York Knicks coming through when it matters. In April, May, and hopefully June.
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Matt Leinart
And I just, I'm counting on, before we move on, I'm counting on floor seats for the Knicks. That's like. That is, that is okay. We're gonna get. We're gonna get into throwback three. We're gonna do our New Year's resolutions, right? Our personal ones, but one of. I just added one. One of them has to be court sided. Madison Square Garden with you for a playoff game, though. I want a playoff game. I don't wear.
- [74:37]
Jerry Ferrara
Would you wear a Knicks hat or would you just stay neutral? You stay.
- [74:39]
Matt Leinart
I don't wear a Nick's hat. Dude, I'm good. I'm not, I'm not like, yeah, Nixon. Nixon. Lakers aren't even in the same conference, so we're good.
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Jerry Ferrara
Okay, I appreciate that.
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Matt Leinart
But that, but that, that is, That's a good one. All right, let's. Let's do throwback three. So obviously we're wrapping up the year and, you know, we always do, I think in our, in our house. And I'm sure you. We always do just New Year's resolutions, just goals. Something we want to get better at, something we want to do more of, maybe something we want to do less of. So we're going to do throwback three. Top. Our top three. Just New Year's resolutions. What do we want to accomplish in 2025? You start.
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Jerry Ferrara
Okay. And I love. I used to do this thing, you know, obviously I lived in LA 20 years. I would always fly home for Christmas. Every Christmas was the one holiday I could never miss in New York. But what I would do on the plane ride back home, because I'd always come home to LA for New Year's because that's where the party was for me. I would. On the plane, I would not necessarily do resolutions, but I would just write things down. That I really wanted to accomplish small things, big things, whatever, in the same notebook. So the very next year, on the flight back to New York for that Christmas, I would look back. I would get to look back in the year and be like, oh, I did this.
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Matt Leinart
That's cool.
- [75:52]
Jerry Ferrara
I did this. I didn't do that. So I encourage everyone, you know, write them down and then put them away where you remember and look at them and just see what happens. It might feel good to check some things off, but my number. My. My first one I want to talk about is my overall health. You know, I just turned 45 years old, and I've definitely gained some dad weight. I've been talking about this from an appearance. I feel like I look. Whatever. I don't even really care how I look. It's more for how I feel, definitely. Like, the other night at dinner, I got up. We were sitting down at a restaurant for two hours. I stood up, and I cramped up and had to take a knee. Like, my. My left calf. My left calf seized up. I took a knee in the restaurant, and everyone came rushing over. They thought I was having a heart attack. So it's. It's a pretty broad spectrum.
- [76:42]
Matt Leinart
I'm getting the visual. I'm sorry. I know this is.
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Jerry Ferrara
We did an escape room, and then we went to dinner, and I cramped up at dinner from the pressure of the escape room. So, you know, overall health in general, the things that will encompass that will be, you know, I'm 45 now. Gotta go get the colonoscopy. And I encourage every person out there, you hit that age, just do it. You know, we see James Vanderbeek now, who just came out with a diagnosis, and he's pretty, you know, outwardly speaking up for screenings and all that. So I'm handling all that health stuff. But, I mean, saunas, cold plunges, stretching, yoga, just all those things to be functional at 45, that is, and be healthy for my kids.
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Matt Leinart
Okay. So that. Yeah. So actually, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna start with that one as well. And I think because we're in the same boat right now, and I'm also having a baby here pretty soon, so, like, you can easily just throw it all for me with the health and fitness. Every year, I always try to be like, all right, just gym or this basic stuff. Stuff I really want to dive more into, like, supplements, vitamins. Like, you know, they do those blood tests where you can really, like, you can. Like, you. You spend a little bit of money, but you really dial in like, hey, what? Like, this is what's up with like.
- [77:54]
Jerry Ferrara
Dumal was talking about.
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Matt Leinart
Exactly, exactly. Like, something like that. So, like, I really want to. And again, and it all, it encompasses everything, right? Because I just want to feel better. I was laughing at you cramping because, like, my lower back hurts. My lower back hurts because my new hips and I'm still trying to work. Like, like, I just want to overall, I want to be able to play pickup basketball multiple days a week like I used to, which I can because of my hips are new. But like, I want to stretch more. I want to like, I like drinking functional. I'm not gonna give up. I like, I like things like, I like having a cocktail. That's fine. I'm not gonna. You know what I mean? Like, I like that, you know, Like, I like doing those things, so I'm not gonna deprive myself of that. But I think just overall health and awareness of my body then will allow me to be a better husband, be a better dad, like, all of those things because like you said, like, when we get older, man, when you hit 40, early 40s, it's like shit just stops working, you know, just like you got to, you got to. So that's, that's a big one. And we should do, We've talked about so. But we should do some type of like fitness challenge or something. We should.
- [78:53]
Jerry Ferrara
I don't know if it's like steps on a whoop band or peloton contest or what. Just, you know, weight loss doesn't really work work because also we're not proportionate, you know, so.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, but you could do body mass.
- [79:06]
Jerry Ferrara
We could do bmi. So we should count.
- [79:08]
Matt Leinart
We could do whatever.
- [79:08]
Jerry Ferrara
We'll throwbacks challenge two things on that before we move on to the next one too. My good buddy Mike Young, who's a stand up comic who also I played pickup with for years, he had this great idea that I don't think ever happened, but he wanted to do like a dudes weekend where first thing we do is we all go. Like five of us go to the doctor and we get, we all get our colonoscopies, we get blood work, we get all this, we get all this stuff. And when we get the clean bill of health, we party like crazy and celebrate our health. I think that's a great idea for, for older dudes where let's go get, let's go get the docs to look at us and basically give us a clearing. But the health and go party that And I did a 30 year old dude walk rolled up on me on the gas station the other day. He was a big Entourage fan. He came up and he said, listen, I. I love throwbacks. I hope you beat Matt in the three point challenge. Which we haven't released just yet. But he said, I have a pickup game Thursday nights and it's, it's pretty low fl, like low impact. I think you could handle it. So I'm toying with the notion of showing up to this random pickup game. I gotta get the health in order.
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Matt Leinart
It's a perfect. It's a perfect. Just re entry back into basketball.
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Jerry Ferrara
But I also. You're walking in. I won't know one person. It's this dude James at the gas station who had rolled up on me.
- [80:29]
Matt Leinart
He might be walking into a fucking trap.
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Jerry Ferrara
Who knows? Who knows? All right, all right.
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Matt Leinart
Number two.
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Jerry Ferrara
My number two and I have so many over. Okay. So this is not. It's. It's health adjacent. It's in the same ballpark. I want to get back into Jiu Jitsu. I started taking Jiu Jitsu years ago with the Gracies at one of their academies. I got up to like yellow like next bell. I wasn't very good, but I did. And I want to take it because these friggin videos on Twitter, you ever. I mean these street fight videos just pop up on my phone. I don't look for them, I don't want to look for them. They're horrible, awful. But it also reminds me everyone seems to know how to fight these days. And I always thought I knew how to fight, but I just want to get to a point where if someone's attacking me, I can get them to the ground and just disarm him or have to protect my wife or kids. I could just disarm them till help comes and just choke them out a little bit.
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Matt Leinart
Also like Jiu Jitsu is like a badass workout. It's also badass to learn that type of stuff.
- [81:30]
Jerry Ferrara
But you do get hurt. A lot of guys getting.
- [81:32]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, but like the mental, like the mental toughness and preparation, all the stuff that, that like gives you out even outside of when you're just like in your hour workout. I think it's incredible. We try to put. We put case in. In my four and a half year old in Jiu Jitsu this summer. How do you know these? A lot of kids do it, right? And he went for three months and it was like torture dude. And like I was so disappointed because he's in there and he's a big kid. He's strong. He's. He's my top. Like, he is tough as nails, man. But he's not a fighter. He just, he doesn't have like my 3 year old is not as tough but my. He will instigate. He'll punch you and he'll be like, you know, but he's like, he also cry more. Dude, this little girl in there was beating his ass.
- [82:15]
Jerry Ferrara
Just rolling them all over the place.
- [82:16]
Matt Leinart
This little girl half his size. And you know they're teaching at this. He doesn't know what he's doing, but they're teaching him like, hey, like, like, like throw her down, Grab her leg. Throw her down. Like he could, he was just like this. And I'm on the corner like Jason puncher, man, punch her. They're telling you to put like, you know, like that. And he just couldn't. And he would cry going in there. Finally. And, and honestly it was Josie, Josie's like, we're taking him and said at babe, at what point do we just stop? So that was our intro to Jiu Jitsu. But for you as a 45 year old grown man, I love it, buddy.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yep. What's your next one?
- [82:46]
Matt Leinart
All right, so this one's kind of, it's not generic, but be spontaneous. I want to be more spontaneous and I think that one's always kind of lives in our house, but more so because we're having another baby and a lot of this just like, it just, you know, like we're going to have three under five. We have a teenager who's going into a senior year. Like it's just going to be a lot and it's really hard as you know, like when you have babies, even you have little kids, like it's not about you anymore. And that's fine, it's about your, your kids, but just not going. And this is my advice to all new parents. But for us too, it's just not getting sucked into the vortex of like the baby life and we never leave the house and we're just become that couple and like then things suffer. Like, and like it is really important for me to make sure that we just continue to like do those things. It might be taking one kid, it might be taking just the baby and leaving the two. It might be right, whatever that means. It doesn't matter. It could be going to the park, it could be just going to like. But not getting sucked into like that tornado of like a new newborn phase. And then just in general, like Just being spontaneous. Like, like, you know, like, like, hey, let's go do this. Like, why not? Like, who care? You know, like, not just getting stuck in that mode. I think that's going to be a big one for both of us.
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Jerry Ferrara
I think too, a lot of families that have second and third kids or even one, but they just are on the go. I think they do subscribe to that. And that third kid, I feel like, always ends up being the chillest one because they're just used to being like, oh, they'll nap anywhere. They'll eat anything because you're just on the go with them. It's a really good setup for my. My last one.
- [84:24]
Matt Leinart
The problem is we've had. Our first two have had, like, like, severe acid reflux problems, like, severe stomach issues. So, like, they'd actually have to go to, like, the doctor for it. And they couldn't sleep on. They couldn't sleep on.
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Jerry Ferrara
The sleep is.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, they couldn't sleep on their back for a year. So, like, yeah, our arc, our boys were really, really tough babies in particular Cannon. So, like, obviously they were for the most part healthy, but they did have those issues that the doctor was like, they will grow out of. But for that first year, they were just miserable. So we're just like, yeah, I mean, healthy, happy, whatever. But, like, that would be nice, like, if the third is the easiest one.
- [84:58]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, the ones I'm putting on for my own personal list based off of this show is one, I want to go to the movies more. If I could get that. I love it in 2025. And two, I'm gonna. I'm full commit to baseball. After just talking about Soto and all these, like, I'm just next year for it's full commitment. I will make time for baseball. But that's not my last one. My last one is off of what you just said, and it's not a done deal. I am putting a maybe in front of it. My last resolution is potentially expanding the Ferrara family and adding a third potential. I'm considering it. I'm heavily considering it.
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Matt Leinart
We just threw that out in the universe.
- [85:44]
Jerry Ferrara
That's right.
- [85:44]
Matt Leinart
That is out. That lives. Bri is going to hear that.
- [85:47]
Jerry Ferrara
I'm going to make sure she skips this episode.
- [85:49]
Matt Leinart
She is going to hear that, dude.
- [85:52]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, I'm going to wait to see how it goes with you first. So I got some time. I'm going to. I'm going to be getting live intel from you.
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Matt Leinart
By the way. By the way, the fact that you said that means it's going to happen. There's no going. There's no going back once you go that far over the line, you know, by the way, just expand the tribe, bro. Just expand the trial.
- [86:14]
Jerry Ferrara
I'm de emphasizing, I'm de emphasizing just how hard it's gonna be. And I'm just trying to go with the flow a little.
- [86:22]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, you can't think about it. You just gotta go. And you just, as my wife always says, oh, we'll be fine. Okay.
- [86:27]
Jerry Ferrara
I will fully say as we wrap up, and I hope everybody out there that's amazing has their list. I will say you have been an influence in that department. And I will say if Bri and I do have a third child, you and Josie are. By the way, this podcast happening is a big reason why the third kid happened because I've followed your journey too, as we get to know each other doing this.
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Matt Leinart
So I appreciate that.
- [86:51]
Jerry Ferrara
Maybe, maybe Matt or maybe Josie are. They are great names.
- [86:55]
Matt Leinart
True. Well, Matthew, give us, give us a middle name. Matthew. I have one more. I have my number. Yeah, I want your last, by the way, that one. We should end on that because that's fantastic. The. The. This one. This is universal. This is to all the parents out there and really quality over quantity. And it. For me, I've been really bad ever, like the last two years. Like on my phone, I'm guilty as anybody, right? I'm like my 18 year old. I'm just like. And a lot of it honestly can be work related because of the jobs we do. We're surfing, we're like social. Like it is part of my, my life. But I've really thought about this and like, just I told my wife the other day, I'm like, man, like, 20 minutes with my boys without a phone is better than an hour with my boys with me being on my phone. You know what I mean? And like, when you look at it that way, you're like, man, if I give them or like every night I put them down, I pretend I'm like this crazy monster for five minutes. And like, they live for that and it makes. And then sometimes I'm like, man, like, like I don't feel like doing it, but I'm like, this is the greatest. Literally three minutes that they want all night. And it's just that quality that they'll always remember. Right? So not to get too serious there, but no, I love quality over quantity, man. Like, quality quality time is the most important thing. I think as we're getting older, with our kids, friends, family, putting the phone away. Enjoying, enjoying five minutes with a five minute conversation with your wife or your husband or your kid goes, goes a long way when you're fully present and, and, and you have that quality time. So that's, that's my, that's my universal message, man, to everybody.
- [88:29]
Jerry Ferrara
That's a great way to go out, man. Yeah.
- [88:31]
Matt Leinart
And I'm really, I've really made a conscious effort of it this last couple months and like, that's my biggest goal next year.
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Jerry Ferrara
I love it. Well, queue up the music to take us out. I want to wish everybody a very, very happy New Year's. We have a lot of amazing sports in 2025 coming our way. We're a few months out from the super bowl basketball playoffs, going to get going and then next thing you know, we'll be at spring training in February. So 2025 is looking bright. Thanks to everybody who listen. Don't forget, follow us at throwback show on all social media platforms and subscribe to us on YouTube. And let's. Let's go 2025.
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Matt Leinart
Let's go.
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Jerry Ferrara
Can't wait.