← Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
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- [00:01]
Matt
Dude, this kid.
- [00:03]
Jerry
Let's do it. I know who you're gonna say, let's talk about him.
- [00:06]
Matt
I mean, this kid is on a mission right now, dude.
- [00:25]
Jerry
All right, welcome everybody. We are a few days out from Christmas, but Throwbacks is here for you as always. Matty, Ice, what's up? We got to tell people again what we want for Christmas this year. Go to the throwbacks page on YouTube, show on socials, follow, subscribe, interact, all that. That's all we want in this.
- [00:47]
Matt
Also, I would love everyone who listens and we appreciate you guys and the follows on social medias and YouTube and wherever you get your podcast. But I think for 2026, I would love more engagement with our audience. Right. Like so. So we always say, like emails, questions, DM us on social platforms. Who you want us to try and get on the pod. What do you want us to talk about? We got a lot of fun stuff coming, you know, like, not really it's a teaser, but we'll be at super bowl together like we were last year. There's a lot of stuff that we get to do together on the road, Jerry, which is awesome. So, yeah, just, just, you know, we're just two dudes hanging, talking, telling. Talking sports, telling stories, man. So if you guys have anything, please message us.
- [01:35]
Jerry
You know, I think that we could do that could be fun because I've done this before with NBA stuff, do a open panel discussion. Basically what it is is like old school sports radio calls. You go live and you have people. I would love to wait and you just bring them in. But that's the thing. They come, they pop in on video, they ask a question and they start a debate. And yeah, you know, it's. It's all kind of on the fly, but that could be a lot of fun. And I'm sure a lot of people would love the chance to, you know, definitely with college football and NFL football, ask you some questions in the moment. So maybe we'll do that too. Look at that might be our 2026 on the docket. But before we could really talk about 2026, I think we have to give a proper year in review to 2025. It was an interesting year. It was a good year. Sports wise, a lot has happened. We're going to do this quick throwback style, as formal and informal as we get. So, Matt, are you ready to talk a little 2025?
- [02:34]
Matt
I am. I am ready. A lot happened in 2025.
- [02:37]
Annie Agar
We'll see.
- [02:38]
Jerry
Well, let's. Let's start here and These go across all sports, whether college football, NFL, NBA, World Series, fights, whatever. The best game that you've watched this year.
- [02:52]
Matt
I mean Dodgers World Series dude, which.
- [02:55]
Jerry
What do you have a specific one? Because those games, sixes and six and.
- [02:59]
Matt
Seven were game six and seven were all time. It had to be games. It had to be game seven dude. Just like that series and we've talked about it, but that series was the best, I mean arguably the best baseball series we've ever seen in the history of the sport. I mean just like, like you know, Toronto didn't have all the stuff like, but it's just everything. Like they, everything every moment the. And, and what stands out. That game it was like, you know everyone talks about the Dodgers and, and the payroll in this but it just came down to like basic fundamental. It came down to defensive plays. It came down to like Miguel Roas was like out of nowhere, Will Smith's foot barely on the home plate. Like, like it was like it was. It just I getting chills thinking one.
- [03:41]
Jerry
Of the best baseball games ever.
- [03:42]
Matt
It's just one of the best baseball games ever played. And it was in a game 7 in the world Series. And it was my team so. And again you know how important the Dodgers mean to me with my family and my dad and all that. So it's just one of those things man, that's like, like you'll, you'll, you'll remember where you were when you watched that game if you're a baseball or Dodgers fan. And for them to win it that way was incredible. So that would be my best game. And it was just like it was filled with every moment as well.
- [04:10]
Jerry
Yeah, for sure. I can easily pick that one as well for me and I guess my selfish view of it and is. And you could pick either one, game one or game two. But Knicks second round versus the Celtics in Boston down 22 points basically going into late third quarter coming back and winning and bridges with the game winning steel and then only night to game two to go right out and go down 20 points again into the fourth quarter and coming back in Boston in one winning going up two zero. You could pick either one of those games but for, for Knicks fans it's like of course Boston's up by 20. We knew we were going to lose these. I remember that and it was stunning. I remember putting. I paused the game to put Jacob to bed because he was watching with me and it was already like 9:30. And then I came back and I had a little fast forward time but I Started getting notifications on my phone, like, oh, something's happening.
- [05:07]
Matt
You can't do that. You got to watch him live.
- [05:08]
Jerry
Dude, I had to put him to bed. I had to get this kid to bed. It was almost 10 o' clock at night. That's right.
- [05:13]
Matt
Just put it on your phone. Just it. While you're.
- [05:15]
Jerry
No, I can't. Not me. You know, I'm a psycho. So for me, that was that. All right, next sports year in review question, athlete who dominated the timeline? I have a very, this was a very easy one for me.
- [05:29]
Matt
Go for it.
- [05:30]
Jerry
We're just talking about who's on my timeline the Most start in 2025, start to finish. Shador Sanders. Not close. We go back to the draft, Matt, in April, you and I. I remember having mass then in the summer, all throughout camp. And now obviously this is, for me, the timeline. Maybe it's because I'm in Cleveland. I'm a little, my algorithm is a little biased. But for me, Shador Sanders, pretty much since February was being talked about on my timeline.
- [05:57]
Matt
And by the way, we were, remember, we were talking about it in the draft, we were out of the draft in Lambeau and Green Bay and the whole thing was, I mean, again, it's just, it's just the coverage was, was ridiculous, but the whole thing was like the slide and all that. But he's going to get an opportunity to play this year because it's Cleveland and something's going to happen and sure enough, he's played. And I think the interesting thing is going to be, is going to be what happens with him in this quarterback situation in the future. Did he play well enough collectively in these last few weeks to at least compete for the starting job next year? DeSean Watson's, you know, still there and paying him a lot of money. Do they draft another guy? Because again, they don't really have much capital in quarterback room like Dylan Gabriel and Shador Center's third, fifth round picks. They're not paying them anything. Right. You know, do you go and get maybe one of these guys that you might believe in in the top five picks? I don't know. It's going to be really interesting. By the way, he's dominated your timeline and he's going to continue to dominate your timeline in the off season? Because everyone's going to want to know what the Cleveland Browns are going to do. For me, Travis Kelsey, I think that's an easy one. He dominates my timeline because I'm just a fan of Taylor Swift. So my whole, my whole for you page is just. It's just my guy and I saw him at Mahomes golf tournament in Vegas this year, earlier this year. And it was fun because I've always loved the dude. He's a great dude. He hasn't let any of this fame and on a whole nother level, a stratosphere level with her like change who he is. He's a great dude. He's a locker room guy. And I say that because, you know, this might be the last year we see him play football.
- [07:46]
Jerry
I know.
- [07:47]
Matt
Yeah. And I say that so like, you know, if it is, I mean, send off to probably the greatest to do it. I mean, I. I think he's definitely in that con. He's definitely a goat. Conversation is easily could argue he's the best tight end of all time. So he, he kind of dominated that. But also like I have a feeling he's done just. I just kind of feels like the way he's talking.
- [08:08]
Jerry
But especially if like, I. I guess, you know, we. I know guys have been coming back very, very quickly from the injuries quicker than ever before. But if you mean to say like, you don't know for sure if Patrick Mahomes is going to be your quarterback coming into game one.
- [08:25]
Matt
Yeah, I mean, I think, I think he'll be. I think he'll be back at some point early in the season. He'll recover.
- [08:31]
Jerry
Right. But I'm saying for Kelsey, you gotta weigh that too. You're weighing this decision.
- [08:34]
Matt
I just, I just. It just felt like. And I respect him because like, you don't really do like a farewell. Like NBA guys are doing like farewell tours. Right. Like, it's like ridiculous. I get it though. But like, Kelsey don't even really. He's just like, you know, I'll figure it out in the offsuit. It just feels. It feels different. Right? It just feels like the town is a little bit different. Right? Because this window is open. It's closed. Like their championship window. It's just closed, man. You know what I mean?
- [09:02]
Jerry
Like for at least a few years. Right? They have to reboot the whole team.
- [09:05]
Matt
Yeah, you have to reboot the whole team. Mahomes is still in this prime, but like we said, Reed is getting old. Like, it's just like. Like they had a great run and it's, you know, it's just.
- [09:14]
Jerry
It was like the first time I started thinking too about like is. Is. Does Mahomes wear a Chiefs jersey his entire career? Because kind of like the LeBron blueprint in a way. Like they've put so much resources toward win now and they had a lot of expensive pieces and they have an older coach. If that's over. If you're Mahomes, do you want to sit through a sort. I know football rebuilds can move a little faster at times, but do you want to sit through a. A rebuild essentially, or do you want to maybe head somewhere else where they're a little closer and maybe take a little less money?
- [09:45]
Matt
My, my thought is. My thought is in anything can happen that he'll be a chief, probably his career. But the, the, the. The one is Joe Burrow. That's a whole other. That's a whole other conversation that we can start in 2026 because I don't think he's going to be a bangle his. There's no way. I think there's no way dude. And you could, you could, you could hear it. You could feel it. I. I've been in. I, I mean I'm not Joe Burrow by any means, but I can just, I can put my mind in a quarterback's like getting beat up like that and just like what are we.
- [10:17]
Jerry
And the losses pile up and, and you're on.
- [10:20]
Matt
You're in a.
- [10:20]
Annie Agar
In a.
- [10:23]
Matt
Like they're just bad.
- [10:24]
Jerry
Like don't spend money the way on the right things.
- [10:27]
Matt
He's going to be a superstar. That is gone in the next two years. In my opinion.
- [10:35]
Jerry
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- [10:57]
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- [11:36]
Jerry
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- [11:48]
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- [12:19]
Matt
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- [12:48]
Jerry
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- [13:04]
Annie Agar
This is.
- [13:05]
Jerry
This is. This was on my solar guide. I don't even know if this is true. I saw this on Twitter, but, you know, the whole crowd, that's like they're intentionally. They're trying to whatever, but someone did this, like, deep dive. So Deon Sanders, famously, I guess either when they won the World Series or got to the World series, doused Tim McCarver in champagne again. This is. This is a fake conspiracy. It's an amazing fake conspiracy. Maybe someone could research and tell me if this is real or not. So, Tim McCarthy, they had words. There's an awkward confrontation on live TV, and apparently it's the conspiracy theorists are saying that Kevin Stefanski's married to Tim McCarver's daughter and this is like retribution for Deion Sanders spray. I just. He has a posting for timeline purposes. This is why this dude's all over mine, so. Oh, we touched on a lot of things there. Yeah. So now let's do our Wendy's fresh take of the week. When talking about 2025 year in review, everyone could join team Tendies and enjoy a lineup like never before. Crispy, juicy Tendies now at Wendy's for this one, Matt, we're just gonna do our 2025 Moment of the year. Now. There's a lot of great moments across sports. You can go anywhere you want with this. I took my time with this one and we already touched on amazing stuff with the Dodgers. For me, I went Rory McElroy closing out the grand slam, getting all the majors. He's had such a big year.
- [14:34]
Matt
Then the Royal choked it too.
- [14:36]
Jerry
Almost blew it.
- [14:37]
Annie Agar
So.
- [14:37]
Jerry
And Ferrari, you know, he hadn't won a major in so long. And for golf, that really is how you're measured when you're one of the great ones. So for him to take on all that pressure and win in Augusta with the world watching that, and I'm such a golf nerd. That was my moment, by the way.
- [14:53]
Matt
It was great and one of my top moments. And this isn't. This is what I'm gonna say, but that was the Ryder cup this year because it was so invested because of golf and just, you know, obviously getting more into it and then having JT on and all these things. But to watch, I believe that us.
- [15:10]
Jerry
Like you were texting me, you were texting me.
- [15:13]
Matt
You know, we had to win. Like we were down 7. Like you had to win. And then the first couple win and j. That we were hitting like 10 foot putts to win.
- [15:21]
Jerry
And then JT putt was.
- [15:22]
Matt
And then by, by the. And then they made a couple and then it just fizzled and we lost. But it was like the, the hype that day. Like I hadn't, I hadn't watched golf that long ever in the history. So for me, the, the, the moment, the game, the, the thing that I thought was the coolest this year was the four nations face off in the NHL.
- [15:42]
Jerry
Oh, wow. Good call.
- [15:44]
Matt
And I thought about this because, you know, I love hockey. Like, I don't watch a ton of I love hockey, but we're always talking about how you can change the NBA All Star. You change the Pro bowl or like what? Like, like this, this in season cup for the NBA. It has one of those things like how do we get people more excited? Right. I thought that was the greatest thing that the NHL could have ever done. Right. It was the four teams, I think it was what, Sweden. Sweden, Canada, US And Finland.
- [16:13]
Jerry
Yes.
- [16:14]
Matt
And playing in like a little like Olympic style tournament for like that weekend and the ratings were huge. It had the moments Canada beat us in the final. But remember, it was like the. Yeah, the fights.
- [16:26]
Jerry
Yeah, three fights in the first nine.
- [16:28]
Matt
All the stars played like, it was just like. It's like, you know, when we watch the. When we watch the dunk contest, we want to see, like, I want to see Anthony Edwards in the dunk contest. I want to see John Moran. I want to see. I would love to see LeBron in his prime. Like, the. All the stars played in this and it was meaningful. That's why we love, like the Olympics, right, Because you love your country. So anyway, the four nations face off. I thought it was fantastic. I'm assuming they're going to do it every year because it was such a hit, but, man, I was glued to all those hockey games and it was like, I mean, they didn't really mean anything, but it was pride and stuff. So that. That would be the moment. They just like, that was so cool.
- [17:02]
Jerry
I think it meant a lot. And I think the momentum of that was felt around sports because I. You got to imagine now going into 2026 with the NBA and their All Star weekend. Now they're doing essentially America, like, NBA versus the world. And where. Like, where. Where did they get that from? You know? And then you look at basketball in the Olympics, like, that's probably been one of the best basketball sport moments with Steph Curry putting them to sleep, you know. So I think that was the first. Oh moment after the success of the. The World's cup or whatever it's even called that. Like, other sports are like, man, we. We got to do better because that is as high level as it gets, by the way.
- [17:43]
Matt
High level and like, playing as hard as they possibly could. Like, it wasn't like, like an all star. Like, you know, like the NHL All Star Games, you know, like, again, like, it's all Star. No one wants to get hurt. No one's like, people want time off, but they play like, NBA all start. You know, these guys aren't going to play a physical game. Like, it's game seven of the NBA championship. But like, these dudes were playing for their country and it meant something. And they were fighting and like, Connor McDavid is the best player in the world. He scores. Like. Like they just had all these moments and you could tell it meant something to them. Like, they were like, hell, yeah, we're playing for our country. It was. It was like, it was awesome, dude. It was just like, holy shit. This is. This is radio. Like, we're going to see this every year. It's so cool.
- [18:22]
Jerry
Shout out to Wendy's too, for supporting us the whole year, Wendy. And my next one for you. It's funny because, like, I, I, I, I had it as like viral sports moment. Now this could be like good or bad or chaotic. And I went with like bad to chaotic. I didn't go good. I don't know why. My brain just went to bad chaotic for me. The thing that I still find myself thinking about and I can't even believe that it happened was the Stephen A. Smith, LeBron James stuff. Only because, like, we just never see that. Right. We live in a world now where if you get pissed off, you just go on someone. Athlete wise, just go on someone's podcast, talk your get your point across and then keep it moving. Never do these two people cross paths. And it's for public display. And we kind of saw it.
- [19:11]
Matt
It was awesome.
- [19:12]
Jerry
You know, it wasn't quite Will Smith. Keep my son's name out your mouth like he did with slapping Chris Rock. But you just don't see that. And I don't know if any other player besides LeBron would have even done that. And I wonder, like, in your career, you know, people have probably said good things, bad things. Have you ever wanted to just a reporter that maybe had it out for you.
- [19:35]
Matt
Yeah. Beat the hell out of it or.
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Jerry
Just even just like, just.
- [19:38]
Matt
Yeah.
- [19:39]
Jerry
You know, unload some verbal shit that you had on your mind?
- [19:42]
Matt
They're definitely, they're definitely. Yeah, there definitely has been times, I think, like, the, the closest thing that I could always talk about is like, Ken Wizen Hunt, you know, with my coach in Arizona who, you know, I just, again, we don't have to go rehash all of that, but there are just moments where I just, I thought I was treated unfairly. I knew he didn't like me. I didn't like him. I think I ran into him a couple years later, like on the sideline or something, and I just like, we shook hands and kind of like, I don't even say buried the hatchet, because I'm sure he did. I didn't think about him ever. Like, I didn't care. But it was just one of those things where it's like when you do, when it does pop up, you're like, oh, yeah, that, that ass, you know, like that. So that would probably be the one moment where we probably shook hands and moved on. But there were always reporters that said bad stuff and, oh, yeah, the dude, the dude who I'm not even giving. Not even mention his name because I don't know his name. But the first picture that ever went viral, me, right? The whole hot tub thing, that dude, I would. I would beat his ass if I saw him. But he's. He's. He's low level, so. But yeah, we could.
- [20:53]
Annie Agar
We could even.
- [20:54]
Matt
We can post that too, because that guy was.
- [20:57]
Jerry
And I even think, like, you remember when, like, Blake Griffin ran into Ballmer courtside when. After he got traded and shipped out, and Blake just blew past him, pretended not to see him. That's a very slick way of, like, unloading without actually doing the act. Like, no one could really call him out. But it was a clear.
- [21:14]
Matt
But we're gonna get. But we're gonna get more of these, I think, because to your point, we do have, like. We can hide behind a camera. You can hide behind your. Your Twitter thumbs. But it's so out there now and in your face that eventually, like, guys in the NBA are talking smack it. Like, you're gonna cross into people now and you're gonna see it, and they're. We're gonna see more moments like LeBron and Stephen A. I think because of the access that we have to. Everybody might not be at a courtside game, but, yeah, we're also in this.
- [21:42]
Jerry
Like, world now where, you know, in sports media, there's, like, straight up stars now. Like, McAfee is a star, and he has to say things five days a week. Stephen A. Is a giant star. He's on TV five hours a day, Right? Like, it's gonna happen. But, like, now their profiles are so large and their followings are so large that it's making this clash. Like, you didn't go at that reporter with the photo, but imagine if that was, like, McAfee leading with that photo. Right?
- [22:13]
Matt
Like, I know you'd be.
- [22:14]
Jerry
It'd be a whole different world that, you know, so you're right. I mean, and it's tricky, that LeBron situation, too, because, well, I had to do it. Yeah, son. But also, like, you know, that's part of being a pro athlete, is pros getting criticized by.
- [22:30]
Matt
Yeah, you gotta, like. Yeah. An adult, too now. You know, he's got. Yeah. I mean, it was. Yeah, it's interesting, man.
- [22:38]
Jerry
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- [23:23]
Matt
Timothy Chalamet. This kid.
- [23:27]
Jerry
What a heater. What a heater.
- [23:28]
Matt
I mean, this kid is on a mission right now, dude. And the best part about him is he seems like. Actually, I know he is. And you know, I know you know him a tiny bit, right? Just nicks and stuff. He just seems like a kid, man, who loves. He. He's like. He does his job. He does it as. As well as anybody in the world. He loves sports.
- [23:50]
Annie Agar
He.
- [23:51]
Matt
I just saw him a couple weeks back. He's w. He was watching a table tennis match. I think I saw. He was all over, like, just literally with normal people just watching like back and forth, like ping pong or someone. Like, he has got a girlfriend who's super famous, who's awesome. He's got every hit movie. He's incredible. He's a sports fan. I just love the dude, man.
- [24:16]
Jerry
He's at a real crossroad in a good way, like, because, you know, he gets so many comparisons to other actors. And I guess the easy comp, if we're doing it like sports coming out of a draft, right. You would maybe make the Leo comp, right? In. In certain ways, Leo was, you know, blew up. So when he was young, around the same age, but. And like the thing from. With Leo, and again, I don't. I don't know him all that well. I've only met him a couple of times. Good dude. But I think he kind of followed this old school way of thinking on an acting front where it was. I can't let you know too much about me personally because how are you going to believe me in all these different roles if you know all this about me? I'm not saying he's never said that to me. I've never heard him really say that publicly. That was always the vibes I got from the camp. From his camp. And just watching him all these years, you know, Chalamet, I think, who's like the ma. I guess you could say is almost like the Modern version where it's kind of the opposite. I just saw him on a wrestling pod, okay, with Cody Rhodes, where he went so deep into every wrestling event that he was on. Obviously, like the ping pong stuff at Mario supreme, the Knicks stuff we've all watched. If you go back in time to early this year, I talked about those Knicks, Boston games. He's following them around, right? And then he's even linked to be. You know, there's this whole. Is he this hidden rapper who wears a mask? Right. People think it's him. There's this lore going on and he's been very public outwardly saying, I want to be one of the best to ever do it. I want to win the Oscar. Like, he is not. It's not that he's not being humble, he's just being competitive. I do think his intersection with sports has made him competitive with his career.
- [25:59]
Matt
He. It's, it's a great comparison to Leo because Leo, there's so many layers to Leo that you're like, you don't know a lot about him, right? But, but a good dude, like never. No one says a bad thing about it. But with Timothy, he still has. Even though he's out in the public and he's kind of like one of us, right? Like, he just, he just loves the things he loves and he's doing it and he's competing at a high level, but he's not, he doesn't shy away. But there's still an aura about him. I think that you're just like, there's something about this kid that he's just oozing like he, like we talk about in. And as a quarterback, like you have that it factor. He has just that it factor. Even though we see him all the time in public and we're like, cool. He still has the aura, you know what I mean? So to be able to do that and balance both is well and, and.
- [26:44]
Jerry
He'S a g. And also like, it's hard to get anyone to see movies and Leo's maybe in the best movie of the year. I don't know if it's going to win the Oscar. One battle after another. It's, you know, it's on my list for another topic we have in here. But we're starting to see Leo. He never went on late night talk shows. We're starting to see that, you know, he did New Heights with Benicio. So I think it's shallow understanding. Like you gotta, you can't promote the movies the same way you used to it just doesn't work anymore. You have to get out there.
- [27:16]
Matt
He did a cool sit down with Jennifer Lawrence. That just came out, too. That's. And she's. She's a great.
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Jerry
But yeah, he said he's, like, never seen Titanic since he made, like, God.
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Matt
Well, I feel like. Nevertheless, there's so many questions you want to ask a guy like that, because he's just kind of like. He's kind of hid for, like, the last 30 years, and it's like. So to see him, like, your point? To kind of see him open up, and he's laughing. He's like. Because he is a good dude. Like, I mean, I know a lot of people know him as, like, dude. He's like, loves playing basketball. Like. Like pickleball. I think he plays or something. But. But yeah, man. Chalamet. By the way, how. I mean, how old is Chalamet?
- [27:52]
Jerry
22, 20, 23 or something? I don't know. He's. Yeah.
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Matt
But hey, Timothy. 20, 26. Throwbacks, man. We got to get you on.
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Jerry
Is that. That's got to be our resolution.
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Matt
Yeah, it's got to be.
- [28:04]
Jerry
And all I know is my. My only real encounter I've talked about on the show before, but I go back to playing pickup with him when he was like, what, 16 years old? And that mofo was picking me up 90ft, bro. He was like, Della Vova or Nemhardt.
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Matt
He's 29.
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Jerry
Is he 29?
- [28:22]
Matt
Almost 30.
- [28:23]
Jerry
Time's flying, bro. Time's going by quicker. But, yeah, that dude was picking me up 90ft, and I didn't like it. I was like, get this kid out of here. Picking me up 90ft. All right, a few more, and then we're gonna close off because we're gonna come back next week, and we're gonna do the flip side to our year interview, which is going to be our freezing cold takes, which is my favorite Twitter account maybe of all time. So good. Let's figure out one more to do here. Oh, you know what? Let's move into a little bit of tv. I like to hit Maddie on some pop culture stuff. Okay, give me. Is there a show that you binged embarrassingly fast? Like, the fact that you finished these episodes in this amount of time would.
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Matt
Shock people this year.
- [29:02]
Jerry
This year.
- [29:07]
Matt
The problem is, dude, is I don't. I. I'm always on that dilemma. If I start a show with the wife and she's kind of into it, kind of not. Do I keep watching it without her? Because I travel so much. So There. There wasn't a show that I binged. But my favorite show, it's kind of is. Is Yellowstone was my favorite stone.
- [29:28]
Jerry
I've never seen Yellowstone.
- [29:29]
Matt
Yellowstone is absolutely one of the best shows I've ever watched, in my opinion. Like, Game of Thrones is my number one. But like Yellowstone, I think it also finished this year, so I think it's done. And then Landman, which is currently on.
- [29:45]
Jerry
Oh, so you're part of the Taylor Sheridan universe.
- [29:47]
Matt
I'm all a part of Taylor University. I haven't seen some of the other ones that he did, but like Landman, because Billy Bob Thorne is one of my favorite actors. Like, he's just great and he's so good in the show. Landman has peaked and slowly become one of my favorite shows of 2025. And it's. I think. I think we're only in season two. So those would be the two. Man, off the top of my head.
- [30:09]
Jerry
Do you know what? Surprise me if in 10 years, I don't know why this, like, makes sense. Because you're such a, you know, you're a California kid. To me, you're such a beach guy, you know, now that I've really gotten to know you. But, like, it wouldn't shock me if 10 years, like, you hear liner. I bought like, a ranch. I don't know why. I feel like I could, by the.
- [30:27]
Matt
Way, tell my wife that she would go buy a ranch tomorrow and live there.
- [30:30]
Jerry
Not that you're gonna be like, riding horses and. But I see you make or maybe just like lake life with some real property where you maybe have some horses or. I don't know, I could see. See you going like Landman.
- [30:40]
Matt
Lake life is my dream. That's for sure. Landman. I don't know, man. I can't see myself having a barn and, like, having.
- [30:48]
Jerry
I don't think you're doing the work. You're not like milking cows doing that. I'm not saying that. But just like, I could see you having some property. We'll just call it Lake life. I see you in cowboy hat. I know you like stage coach. You like the country music.
- [31:02]
Matt
That's true. I could speak in Josie's language right now.
- [31:05]
Jerry
I didn't really have intentions on watching this show. And honestly, like, I judge how good a show is now by does it keep Bri and I awake? Like, are we awake past 10 o' clock watching? There's only really been two shows so far in the last six months that have done that, and one was Stranger Things because we've been fans from the beginning, so we, we banged all those out quick. But the one that I was surprised, I didn't think I was going to watch it and I got really curious was I love la. I don't know if you've watched the show or heard much about it and maybe selfishly, they're making a lot of comparisons. Like, oh, it's like Girls. It's like Sex in the City and Rachel Senate, her name. She's the lead of the show. She's also the creator of the show. Said publicly not well, yeah, it's more what I was influenced by. It's more like early Entourage, right? And I'm like, no one says that stuff anymore, let alone a show with a female lead, right? It's like, you're not, you can't say that. So I'm like, let me, let me watch. Threw on the first episode. That's pretty good through on the set and I ripped through him and now I'm caught up to where the episodes are cut. Now I have to wait till Sunday night.
- [32:11]
Matt
Where do you, where do you watch it? Where do you stream that on hbo.
- [32:14]
Jerry
HBO show. I think that was also some of the like Sex and the City comparisons, but I love LA is a very, very well done, fun show. Not even because she said nice, kind things about Entourage.
- [32:30]
Matt
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Jerry
All right, we'll end here, and then we'll go on to our Freezing Cold Takes episode next week as James, my kid. James, this is a perfect question for you. Come here, James. Come here.
- [35:02]
Matt
Come here. Hurry up. Come here, come here.
- [35:03]
Jerry
Hurry up. All right, Matt, ready? This is a question from James Ferrara. Okay, the kids show that you secretly love, that your boys watch that you are in the background, maybe checking in. What are they doing this week?
- [35:21]
Matt
What's up, dude? What's up, buddy?
- [35:22]
Jerry
Say hi. You say hi to Matt. Hi.
- [35:26]
Matt
That's a good. Okay, so that's a good question. I'm all. Here's. I have one. The sad part is, is my boys don't watch a ton of shows because they just watch YouTube.
- [35:39]
Jerry
Right? Well, maybe there's a YouTube show for you, though.
- [35:42]
Matt
But yeah, we're big, big, big Ben and Cam fans. Can you bring Case in here with Ben? Have you heard of Ben and Cam?
- [35:52]
Jerry
Don't touch the mic. Yes, we've heard of Bed and Cam.
- [35:55]
Annie Agar
Hello?
- [35:56]
Jerry
Okay, hold on.
- [35:57]
Matt
What's up, dude? Don't worry. I bring Case in. You and you and Casey are gonna do.
- [36:00]
Jerry
Oh, you're gonna see. Matt's gonna bring Casey. You haven't seen Case in since la.
- [36:06]
Matt
It's more than movies for me, Jerry. Yeah, when I'm scrolling movies, I'm like, hey, let's throw Toy Story guys on, because I want to kind of watch it. And they're like, dad, we've seen it 50 times. I'm like, yeah, but let's just like cars. Like, so it's always. Yeah, like, kind of one that I want to kind of at least like.
- [36:21]
Jerry
Well, you know, the big news is Toy Story 5 is coming out next year. That' anticipated movie of 2026 for sure.
- [36:29]
Matt
Hold on here.
- [36:30]
Jerry
Come here. Coming in on the show real quick. Hey, look here.
- [36:36]
Matt
Hi.
- [36:37]
Jerry
Hi, Kayson. Can you hear him? What's up, buddy?
- [36:41]
Annie Agar
Hi.
- [36:44]
Matt
Boys. Ask. Ask Kason what his favorite show is.
- [36:46]
Jerry
Let's see what it is. Yeah, could you ask Kason what his favorite TV show is?
- [36:49]
Annie Agar
What is your favorite show?
- [36:52]
Jerry
What are you watching right now, Kayson? The screen.
- [36:57]
Matt
The what?
- [36:58]
Jerry
What's your favorite TV show?
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Matt
TV show that you like to watch?
- [37:03]
Jerry
No idea.
- [37:05]
Matt
What do we watch on YouTube? Who do we watch a lot on YouTube?
- [37:09]
Jerry
Ben and Cam on YouTube. Now, wait, Jane, can you tell Kason your favorite show? I mean, I know what it is that I dad watches with you all the time. Bluey. Bluey. Have you watched Bluey?
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Annie Agar
No.
- [37:23]
Jerry
You should try out some Bluey.
- [37:26]
Annie Agar
Why?
- [37:27]
Jerry
It's a fun show, and they're quick episodes. They're, like, really fast. You could tell them something really quick. As we're closing out the show.
- [37:34]
Matt
Who watches Bluey?
- [37:35]
Jerry
Funny bluey stuff.
- [37:37]
Annie Agar
Pretends to be a chick.
- [37:39]
Matt
Corey Carson. We watched Corey Carson.
- [37:40]
Jerry
Corey Carson. Remember Corey Carson. All right, Ghost Graham.
- [37:45]
Matt
All right, bye.
- [37:46]
Jerry
Get out of here, Kason. So there we go. We got a little bit from our correspondence. All right, that's our throwback to your review. Let's. Let's bring on Annie Agar for some twisted trivia, see if I could keep the momentum going. Joining us, as she always does, Annie Agar, courtesy of Twisted Tea. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. I'm definitely gonna need one, probably after this round of twisted Trivia that we're gonna be doing Annie in a new location once again. You don't have to give it out. It's an undisclosed location. We could just say for you. Right.
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Annie Agar
I'm hidden away somewhere. Yeah, it's the. It's the holiday location. You know, There you go. Gotta get back with the family for the holiday.
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Jerry
Well, are you. Are you Christmas Eve or Christmas Day? I feel like every family has Matt's. Matt and I talked about this last week. Are you Christmas Eve or Christmas Day?
- [38:33]
Annie Agar
That's a great question. We have a different tradition for both days. So Christmas Eve, we go to church, and then we come back, we always open up pajamas. My mom says every year she doesn't have them. And she always has em. We always open up pajamas and then we just drink and eat food and play these super competitive games. Like, my family gets really into games. So we just have a night and then we wake up then, like, Christmas Eve is super chill. We don't. We stay in our pajamas all day, open presents, relax, have a good breakfast.
- [38:59]
Jerry
And now we play football.
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Matt
Yeah. What kind of games you guys play? There's so many new games. What games do you play? There's so many new ones. Give us a glimpse.
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Annie Agar
My mom is insane with, like, she plans so well, but she last year had a auction, so we all had fake money and she had wrapped presents differently. So, like, there were small presents in big boxes, big presents in, you know, random bags and stuff. And you had. You could spend. You only had, like. I think we each had, like $200 of fake money and you had to bid on each auction package. So, like, my. But it seems a lot harder than it actually is. Like, you can. You can outbid other people and. But you could. You could spend all $200 on a terrible present. You know, like my brother.
- [39:38]
Jerry
It's like an auction draft.
- [39:39]
Annie Agar
My brother got like a can. It's an auction draft. Yeah. He got like a can of sardines. And he was holding out for like, the entire auction because he thought he was there. One. One of the presents was like a TV or something. So my mom. They'll like, be big presents.
- [39:52]
Matt
Wow.
- [39:52]
Annie Agar
And he was holding out the entire auction and he waited to the last.
- [39:55]
Jerry
One and he got scared.
- [39:56]
Annie Agar
It was the biggest one and it was like a little candle.
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Matt
That's hilarious. I love that.
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Annie Agar
It's so much fun. Yeah. And then we play, like, the typical, like, euchre. We love euchre.
- [40:04]
Jerry
Euchre. That's a Midwest game.
- [40:06]
Annie Agar
Okay. Very mad.
- [40:08]
Matt
What is euchre?
- [40:08]
Jerry
I've heard about. I learned about Yuka.
- [40:09]
Annie Agar
It would take the entire show to try to.
- [40:11]
Matt
Is it a card? Is it a card game? It's a card game. Okay.
- [40:14]
Annie Agar
But like, the dumbest card game ever. But it's fun.
- [40:16]
Jerry
But I somehow I've also lost thousands of dollars playing euchre. That game sounds fun. That's part, like, prices, right? Part deal or no deal. Like, you could take this now or go. Is your mom, like, auctioneer going like, let me get 100?
- [40:30]
Annie Agar
Yeah.
- [40:30]
Jerry
She's running the show, right?
- [40:32]
Annie Agar
She did, yeah. I don't know if you have guys ever watched Survivor. The show Survivor.
- [40:36]
Jerry
Yeah, of course.
- [40:36]
Annie Agar
So they do it on Survivor toward the end. I don't know if it's like, new, but they. In the last season, they didn't do it, I don't think. But they do, like, the same thing, but with food. So I think that's where she got the idea. So you can. You spend your money wisely. You can get, like, two or three meals, but if you don't, then you're.
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Matt
What. What is.
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Annie Agar
We.
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Matt
Jerry and I talked about this last week, and because we have kids, so we. We talked about kind of like the worst tradition. And Elf on the Shelf is definitely just flown up the. Flown up the ladder for.
- [41:04]
Annie Agar
I don't know how you guys do that.
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Matt
Is there. Is there a worse tradition or tradition that you hate that you've. Maybe you're not a part of that you've seen or just something that. Or. No.
- [41:16]
Annie Agar
I don't like when I actually dated somebody whose family did this. I don't like when people. The kids just open presents.
- [41:24]
Matt
Oh, yeah.
- [41:25]
Jerry
Whenever the hell they want.
- [41:26]
Annie Agar
Stresses me out. Like, you're telling me I spent two weeks trying to find this present for you, and you're just ripping it open and onto the next one?
- [41:33]
Matt
Actually, this is a good question for this. So are you. So Josie gets so mad. This is her pet peeve. So, like, when we're at. If we go to my brother's house or we're like, we go. Everyone just opens presents without saying who they're from. It's like. And that's kind of how we grew up. It wasn't like. It wasn't a race. We just kind of, like, did it that way.
- [41:53]
Annie Agar
Yeah.
- [41:54]
Matt
She goes like we do one at a time. Like, everyone goes around. It takes more time, but it's also a little more. It's. It's. Yeah, it's just like, hey, open up one before, say thank you, give a hug, whatever, and then you move on to the next one.
- [42:07]
Jerry
So that's.
- [42:07]
Matt
That's what you guys. That's what.
- [42:09]
Annie Agar
Yeah. And it's harder with big family. Like, I get the big family thing, but with us, it was always just my immediate family, and then, like, maybe a couple cousins and stuff, and we do it that way, and then it would make it last longer, and we'd plan it so, like, we'd have mimosas. And now it's so fun. We just take our time and.
- [42:25]
Matt
Yeah, about that.
- [42:26]
Jerry
Well, let's get. I want to get a female perspective on this question that Matt, I answered last week as well. How far do you extend the gift buying? Like, who do you buy presence for? Currently, like, how far into it do you go?
- [42:44]
Annie Agar
Yeah, where's your cut off? I don't really. So for like my. All my girlfriends, I'll. I'll host like a dinner and then I'll get them like slippers and pajamas or cute little things. And then it's just pretty much my immediate family and then my agent and her assistant.
- [42:59]
Jerry
You do the business. I like that.
- [43:01]
Annie Agar
I do. I do. And I love. Oh, I love. I'm a big gift giver. Like, that's, you know, like, the love language is mine is the way I show love is by gift giving. Not really receiving it with gifts, but for her, like, she loves her dogs and she loves wine. So I found this person on Etsy that pan paints like a dog portrait on a wine bottle.
- [43:19]
Matt
You're so thoughtful.
- [43:20]
Annie Agar
It was so fun.
- [43:21]
Matt
Me and Jerry are terrible gift.
- [43:22]
Jerry
I would never think about this. Last week, I think of the wine. Like, I sent Matt some wine. I would never be like, I'm gonna paint Matt. I just. It's.
- [43:30]
Annie Agar
Well, that's the thing, though. Like, do we, like, do the three of us get each other gifts? Like, where does the cutoff. You know, like, I'm going to take.
- [43:36]
Jerry
Yeah, I'm going to take the pressure off right now. Absolutely not. No way.
- [43:43]
Annie Agar
My gift to you guys is I'll pick the next winner of trivia. Some nice with trivia.
- [43:48]
Matt
I will. I will text you a really nice, thoughtful text on Christmas morning saying how grateful I am for this new relationship in this segment and all the stuff.
- [43:58]
Annie Agar
We'Re doing together, which he did do on Thanksgiving. That was so. One of you guys did. That was so sweet.
- [44:02]
Jerry
That's a good text there. He's a thought.
- [44:03]
Annie Agar
That was very sweet.
- [44:04]
Matt
Yeah, I'm a great. I'm a good texter. I think I'm very thoughtful when that. But I'm just not a great gift. I'm not a creative. Like, Josie's always like, I'm like, God. Like, I'm just like, I get. I'll give her flowers once a week. Like, I'm just like, thoughtful like that. But I'm not like, you know, there's not a lot of. I don't want to say, like, deepness to it. It's just like, I don't have, like, like, my buddy did a. My buddy did for his. I was like, bro, what are you doing to us? He did like, a song. He, like, made a whole song about their. It's cool. It's awesome. I was like, oh, that'd be awesome. I Guess you could type it in and you can make a song about your journey of dating and then it kind of throws out a song about it. But it's like legit. Yeah, but it was, it was different than AI. It was something. And. And he did it and I'm like, I'm like, dude, like, you're making me look bad now.
- [44:52]
Jerry
Does that count though?
- [44:53]
Annie Agar
If.
- [44:53]
Jerry
If I talk about this last year with Brie being pregnant and I, I put it all into chat GBT or some AI app and say I need a song, but just how beautiful my wife's been during this pregnancy and then it spits me out an amazing song. Do. Do I get credit for just throwing it in chat GPT?
- [45:13]
Matt
Yeah, because nothing.
- [45:14]
Jerry
It takes five seconds.
- [45:15]
Annie Agar
Cuz you. But you thought. You put the thought behind it. That's what.
- [45:19]
Jerry
That's what I would so stressed out if I had to get you. Well, Matt, I feel like if I had to get, like get a co working gift for Annie, I would be like, what do I get? It would either be something way over the top.
- [45:30]
Matt
You're easy.
- [45:30]
Jerry
So over the top you'd be like, jerry, why did you get me a car? Or it would be like something so small, I'd be like, dude, you got me a box of raisin. Like plums. You sent me plums.
- [45:41]
Annie Agar
Oh, that's why we're texting. That's why we just said, Danny, what.
- [45:43]
Matt
Was the best gift that you ever received? One that. Just one. Jerry talked about his mom getting a starter jacket, which was an awesome story. I don't know if you heard that story, but it's. It's awesome. And she saved up money for it. We kind of talked about like, you know, like the, the Nintendo 64 was like, for us. I don't know if you played the. I mean, you're a lot younger than us, but she'd be like. It was like that big.
- [46:08]
Annie Agar
The Wii. The Wii was the Wii. Yeah.
- [46:10]
Matt
What was your. Do you have one that just sticks out? Maybe when you were even a little kid, like, man, that one was meaningful. Or just something you use all the time.
- [46:21]
Annie Agar
My. My parents always like to do surprises, so they'd. They get through all the presents and we. My mom would say every year she'd be like, this is gonna be a smaller Christmas, like, you know, just a few presents. And she'd be right. But then there'd always be like a big one at the end. But it wouldn't happen every year. So it was like a guessing game. So this one year we wanted to go to Disney so badly. Cause Disney's so great with Johnny and my brother. Like, they're super accommodating. So that was always our family trip. And we hadn't been for a couple years. And we kept wanting to go. I think my dad had switched jobs or something. So we just weren't planning on this Disney trip at all. And my mom had, like, hinted at it before, but then she totally squashed anything about any Disney trip. Like, it just wasn't gonna happen. So we get through presents, and it was a smaller Christmas, and we're like, okay, maybe, like, this Disney trip is happening. And so we're all sitting at the end of opening gifts, like, waiting for it to happen. Mom's like, okay, let's go have breakfast. So then we decided, oh, it's just not this year. We're just not gonna go. So we go up to breakfast, and my mom brings out, like, a little package. This is, like, hours later. And it was a. It ended up being a balloon, I think. I don't remember. I was younger, but it was a balloon. But it had Mickey Mouse on it, like, really small. And so we're looking at this balloon, and then there was, like, a little Mickey in the corner. And then she brought out, like, Mickey in many ears, and she's like, we're going to Disney.
- [47:34]
Matt
That's amazing.
- [47:35]
Annie Agar
And that was, like, those trips. Because that present then got us through the winter months. And then we looked forward to the trip. It was so much fun.
- [47:42]
Jerry
You know what I respect about that, too? It wasn't like, hey, kids, Santa's sending us to Disney. It's like, yeah, mom and dad are getting the credit for this one because we're paying for.
- [47:52]
Annie Agar
For it.
- [47:52]
Jerry
And we're taking.
- [47:52]
Annie Agar
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [47:54]
Jerry
He's bringing you this gift.
- [47:56]
Matt
Jerry, question for you. I've just. I just got all these questions now because.
- [48:00]
Jerry
Spirit.
- [48:00]
Matt
Yeah. I mean, I. Christmas gifts.
- [48:03]
Jerry
Yes.
- [48:04]
Matt
Do. Do ever. Does every gift that comes from you and Bri to the kids, does that come from you, or is every gift from Santa?
- [48:12]
Jerry
I think in the past, it's been all from Santa. Until I had to step in this year, in fact, when we were, like, talking about some of the things we're getting them. And also, my wife, Brie, had one year, Annie. Like, I guess it was, like, three years ago when my kids were, like, three. This. This woman went so far overboard for little kid Christmases that, like, stuff I wasn't even aware of. I said, this cannot go on. First of all, the precedent we're saying like, this is 10 of my Christmases rolled up into one. So now we go, we scale it way, way back. But I'm like, we have to pick a thing that has to be from us. It just has to be.
- [48:52]
Josie
So.
- [48:52]
Jerry
I am very specific. And you would not believe a good.
- [48:55]
Annie Agar
Guy the whole time and not you guys.
- [48:57]
Jerry
Do you know what my true 6 year old put on top of his list? This is amazing. And also worries me a little. And this is the one that's from us. A autographed poster for his room of Carl Anthony Town. Carl Anthony town and all.
- [49:15]
Matt
What's wrong with that?
- [49:16]
Jerry
I. I just like, not even Brunson, you know, you don't even go like, this star. He almost won an OG and an obi when I had to talk him out of that. I'm like, I don't know if that dude's gonna be on the team in two years. So that's from mom and dad. The Carl Anthony Towns autographed poster of him doing a zesty pass.
- [49:36]
Matt
Yes.
- [49:37]
Annie Agar
Yeah. It's the Caleb.
- [49:39]
Matt
Yeah. That wouldn't be on my top 200 posters. I'd want in the NBA, but it's okay. That's awesome, dude. I'm with you too. Yeah. All of ours come from Santa. I'm like, so like the, the, the, the Nike, the Nike dunks that I just got canon. They can't be from dad.
- [49:55]
Jerry
Like the elf makes some dunks.
- [49:57]
Matt
Yeah.
- [49:58]
Annie Agar
You know, I give my parents so much credit because I'd be so mad. I'd be like, I spent all this time buying presents and I don't get a thank you. Come on.
- [50:06]
Jerry
So two last things before we begin. Number one, Annie, if you need another family game, I don't know how big your family is. My wife's family's pretty big. I host a family feud. Okay, we got the cards. And I turn into Steve Harvey. That with a few drinks and some drunk old.
- [50:23]
Annie Agar
That would be fun.
- [50:24]
Jerry
Uncles is friggin hilarious.
- [50:26]
Annie Agar
We have done a version of that before.
- [50:28]
Jerry
It's a good one. Someone had. But the host has to really give it up. Whoever's being the Steve Harvey has to like have energy. Like, give me Bri, give me Lauren. Let's go like bring them up. I don't know.
- [50:38]
Matt
Can you buy a game? Is there a game?
- [50:40]
Jerry
Family? Yeah, they sell cards. Like, they sell like the questions, you know.
- [50:43]
Matt
Good idea.
- [50:44]
Annie Agar
Yeah, that's a really good idea.
- [50:45]
Jerry
And my last thought before we go into some trivia is you. You've shown some family Competitiveness. And being that Matt is beating the brakes off me in trivia. In twisted T. Trivia so badly. And he's. He's getting very. Like, he's already over it. He knows he's good. You might. In 2026, we might have to flip this because I'm out. Like, if this were the NFL, I'd be looking forward to the draft. I've been scouting. I'm scouting quarterbacks right now while Matt's trying to get healthy for a deep playoff run. So you might have to be the other playoff team that Matt runs into, because it can't be.
- [51:19]
Annie Agar
That'd be so fun.
- [51:20]
Matt
Listen, I'll go one on one versus Annie.
- [51:24]
Jerry
Might have to do it. All right.
- [51:26]
Annie Agar
It's a lot more fun. I'll tell you how to do trivia when you know the answers.
- [51:29]
Jerry
That's what family. That's. That's what. Being the host of Family Feud is so fun.
- [51:33]
Annie Agar
Yeah.
- [51:33]
Jerry
You know the answers and you're.
- [51:34]
Matt
I'm gonna buy that game.
- [51:35]
Jerry
Drunk uncle stumble through.
- [51:37]
Annie Agar
Yeah.
- [51:38]
Jerry
Question.
- [51:40]
Annie Agar
In my family, the drunk uncle is me. But, you know.
- [51:43]
Matt
Okay.
- [51:44]
Jerry
Should we get to some twisted trivia?
- [51:46]
Annie Agar
Yes.
- [51:46]
Jerry
Okay. Matt has.
- [51:48]
Annie Agar
We have Christmas themed trivia. I'm so excited for this one.
- [51:51]
Jerry
Christmas themed trivia.
- [51:53]
Matt
What does that mean? Sport, sports, movies.
- [51:55]
Annie Agar
Nope. It's all just mostly Christmas movies.
- [51:58]
Matt
Oh, okay.
- [51:59]
Jerry
Okay. This is not sport related.
- [52:01]
Annie Agar
Nope.
- [52:02]
Jerry
Okay.
- [52:03]
Matt
All right. This is your wheelhouse. Jerry. Come on, buddy.
- [52:05]
Annie Agar
You got to see question number one. How many reindeer does Santa Claus have if you have to sing the song. Wait, no. I can't even sing.
- [52:17]
Jerry
Nine.
- [52:18]
Annie Agar
Yes.
- [52:19]
Matt
Yes.
- [52:19]
Annie Agar
Wow. Good math. Quick math. Okay.
- [52:22]
Jerry
Can you name them?
- [52:22]
Matt
Can you name them all?
- [52:24]
Jerry
I could. Yeah, but let's. Let's keep it rolling. Let's keep it rolling.
- [52:28]
Annie Agar
Okay. Number two. What is the city that the Grinch overlooks?
- [52:33]
Jerry
Whoville.
- [52:34]
Annie Agar
Yep. Wow.
- [52:36]
Jerry
Someone's putting in there Christmas time with the kids.
- [52:38]
Matt
I would have got that. I was a little slow on that, but. Yeah, we just watched that.
- [52:41]
Annie Agar
Okay. Question number three. What makes Frosty the Snowman come alive?
- [52:46]
Jerry
Christmas magic.
- [52:47]
Annie Agar
Nope. Good guess. Though. I. Technically. But it's not. But it's a specific thing.
- [52:55]
Matt
Give me my hint, please.
- [52:57]
Annie Agar
It's an article of clothing.
- [53:00]
Matt
Oh, a scarf.
- [53:01]
Annie Agar
Nope.
- [53:02]
Jerry
His hat.
- [53:03]
Matt
His hat.
- [53:03]
Annie Agar
His hat.
- [53:04]
Jerry
The magic is in the hat.
- [53:05]
Annie Agar
I honestly forgot about that because it's. Yeah, it's just like the haunted quick.
- [53:10]
Jerry
Three spot that dropped on them.
- [53:11]
Matt
Okay, you didn't get that, right?
- [53:15]
Jerry
I don't. Get us another guess for that.
- [53:18]
Matt
Oh, it's the hat. What?
- [53:20]
Jerry
How many times does Matt guess? Then I guess and then. So you're.
- [53:23]
Matt
You're gonna. But you're gonna take that.
- [53:25]
Annie Agar
I thought he got a point for that. We'll get.
- [53:26]
Jerry
We'll leave that in the past every single time the person's gotten the point for that.
- [53:30]
Matt
Yeah, yeah. You're fine. It's fine. I mean, listen, dude. At this point's charity case. So it doesn't matter.
- [53:35]
Jerry
I mean, it's just the way we've always done it.
- [53:38]
Matt
No, it's fine.
- [53:38]
Annie Agar
You know, this is actually so fitting because the Giants win meaningless games. Jerry.
- [53:44]
Jerry
We're creep of Annie. Putting me in one of her videos which is my secret objective is getting in one of her.
- [53:50]
Matt
By the way. That's when you know you've made it. If you ever get.
- [53:52]
Jerry
I've already asked her on the side. Like honored forever in the same city. You know, I. I am an actor.
- [53:58]
Annie Agar
Absolutely.
- [53:59]
Jerry
I could play Joe Shane or something for you. Yeah.
- [54:02]
Annie Agar
Yeah. That would be hilarious. Finally get him fired.
- [54:05]
Jerry
Yeah.
- [54:06]
Annie Agar
Okay. Two pictures. Name. Name these. This actor.
- [54:09]
Matt
The first one. Oh, man.
- [54:11]
Jerry
Billy Bob Thornton.
- [54:12]
Matt
Yeah.
- [54:13]
Annie Agar
Yes, that is correct. Cab. Picture number two.
- [54:17]
Jerry
Tim Allen. Wow.
- [54:20]
Annie Agar
Jerry.
- [54:20]
Jerry
Skunking him, bro.
- [54:22]
Annie Agar
Sweeping him.
- [54:23]
Matt
By the way, I intentionally didn't say anything on those last two. Just letting you know you. You would be. You would have beat me. You would have beat me, but I.
- [54:30]
Jerry
Didn'T have no idea.
- [54:31]
Matt
Tim Allen and Santa Claus and. And that's bad. Santa with Billy Bob Thorne.
- [54:35]
Jerry
So this is gonna be a thing where when I do win now, Matt, you're gonna let you win.
- [54:40]
Matt
No, I didn't let you win this one.
- [54:42]
Jerry
And you know what? Has not happened one time since we've been doing twisted trivia. Annie.
- [54:47]
Annie Agar
What's that?
- [54:48]
Jerry
Shut out. A clean as the kids say. B. Haven't there really A. That was a belt to ass.
- [54:57]
Matt
I've never seen someone who's getting their ass kicked so much be so excited about winning. One question to now. Now it's 12, 4 and 1. Now it's 12, 4and 1.
- [55:07]
Jerry
That helps with the overall lead too. And that's like that.
- [55:10]
Annie Agar
That's like that. The. The Chargers player when they were getting killed by 63 to the Raiders and he did the first down thing.
- [55:16]
Jerry
That was crazy.
- [55:19]
Annie Agar
Amazing.
- [55:20]
Jerry
Well, thank you very much, annie. Seriously. In 2026. I thank you, God. That we have to do.
- [55:25]
Annie Agar
I will do it reverse. Yeah, I would be. I think we should.
- [55:28]
Jerry
And start the standings over. Merry Christmas.
- [55:33]
Matt
Yeah. Put you on. What are you looking forward to most in 2026. Annie.
- [55:37]
Josie
Ooh.
- [55:37]
Matt
Could be.
- [55:38]
Annie Agar
Well, hopefully Green Bay season will still be going on then.
- [55:41]
Matt
Hopefully. A Green Bay Super. A Green Bay Packers Super Bowl.
- [55:44]
Annie Agar
I would hope so. I don't know if it's possible now, but that's what I'm hoping for.
- [55:48]
Matt
You're still. It's still possible.
- [55:49]
Annie Agar
It's so close. Like, when your team is that close. Oh, it's just hard not to think about Super Bowl. That's where I am. That's where my. I'm not. Nothing personal. Nope. Just the Green B Packers winning.
- [56:00]
Jerry
Nothing personal. Good. We gotta get Matt. Matt, like, if you had to root for an NFL team, if someone came to you and was like, listen, or you just had this conversation, you gotta pick someone like me. With college football, we have to, like, who would you realistically be okay with rooting?
- [56:17]
Matt
It's got to be the Rams or the Chargers. Because the local.
- [56:20]
Jerry
You said you enjoyed your time with Houston.
- [56:22]
Matt
Because my kid. Because my boys are getting into it. That's why. Because they're like the home Chargers and, like, case. And played on the flag.
- [56:28]
Annie Agar
I was gonna ask your kids were.
- [56:30]
Matt
Yeah, they will listen. It's like you. They will listen to whatever I say. So if I'm like, hey, we're rooting for the Texans, they're gonna love the Texans at this age. But I just don't. I don't. I don't care. I don't. I don't really care that much. Like, I. I like. I love. Stat. I love the Rams. I like Harbaughs. Like. Like, lives here. I see. Like, they're all like. I don't know. I just feel like it's.
- [56:54]
Jerry
I feel like you're gonna end up with Chargers. If you had to pick, I feel like of the LA teams, it would be the Chargers.
- [57:00]
Matt
I have a. I have a special guest.
- [57:01]
Jerry
Special guest. Go.
- [57:03]
Matt
My wife.
- [57:05]
Annie Agar
Oh, my gosh. Hi.
- [57:07]
Matt
Great. Hold on. I want you guys to ask her. I want. Real quick, sit on my lap. I'm like Santa about the gifts, the wrapping, the gifts, and everyone is from Santa, but we all agree that at least one should be from mom and dad.
- [57:23]
Josie
No.
- [57:26]
Jerry
Hi, Josie.
- [57:27]
Annie Agar
You don't want to. Thank you at all. You just have the kids. It's all from Santa. Yes.
- [57:32]
Matt
That's Annie, by the way. You guys have never met.
- [57:33]
Josie
Of course I know Annie.
- [57:35]
Annie Agar
We have. We've met.
- [57:36]
Josie
That's so rude.
- [57:41]
Annie Agar
Yeah.
- [57:41]
Josie
Well, okay, so two things that I grew up with. I grew up. No presents from parents. It was all from Santa. So for us, Santa was Like, oh, Matt's telling me not to talk too.
- [57:51]
Jerry
Well, the kids are probably the kids.
- [57:55]
Annie Agar
Okay.
- [57:55]
Jerry
So it was always from the man in the chimney.
- [57:59]
Annie Agar
Yeah.
- [57:59]
Josie
So we thought he was. I mean, just the greatest thing ever of all time. And then the second thing was that none of our gifts from Santa, which were all the gifts, were never wrapped. So I have compromised.
- [58:12]
Matt
Yes.
- [58:13]
Josie
On terrible.
- [58:14]
Annie Agar
No.
- [58:14]
Josie
Well, because everything was displayed.
- [58:15]
Jerry
What's the thought process behind.
- [58:17]
Josie
Yeah, because everything was displayed. So, for example, if I asked for a dollhouse, like, how sucky is it to open a box? And you're like, well, okay, I can't play with this.
- [58:25]
Annie Agar
Put a dollhouse together.
- [58:26]
Josie
Yeah, but how magical to come downstairs and, like, all of a sudden there's, like, a dollhouse. Or for, you know, our boys. Jerry. It's like race car track is, like, ready to go. And.
- [58:36]
Annie Agar
Yeah.
- [58:37]
Josie
You know, the kitchen, when they were two, the kitchen was all set and, like, ready to play with.
- [58:43]
Jerry
That's interesting.
- [58:43]
Annie Agar
Yeah.
- [58:44]
Josie
So I've compromised in that some gifts that are not displayable, we wrap those. And then the displayable gifts, we don't rap, we build and we make and blah, blah, blah. Which, speaking of which, he's done none of yet. You have a lot.
- [58:57]
Jerry
Come on, Matt.
- [58:58]
Annie Agar
I know Christmas for parents is no. It's no walk in the park. You guys put in work.
- [59:03]
Josie
I am exhausted, and, like, the week hasn't even begun and I am exhausted. I have.
- [59:11]
Annie Agar
See, I told you, drunk uncle. I just sit around, drink mimosas all day.
- [59:14]
Jerry
But, Josie, let me ask you. Let me ask you one thing, one quick thing, and I'll let you go. I have volunteered because, like, I only. I weigh in on, like, of course, like, what the boys want, especially when it's sports related. But Brie pretty much takes everything on. And she had very magical Christmases as well. Like, her dad used to video on a giant camcorder. Hours of present, all that. I did not have magical Christmases. My mom stopped putting up.
- [59:39]
Matt
Why is everyone.
- [59:39]
Jerry
When I was, like, 11. I can't hear my question for you. I volunteered to, like, hey, do you want me to wrap some stuff? I'm. I'm not a great rapper. I'm just gonna say. Or do you want me to get that thing for your mom? Like, even, like, a gift, and it's just a hard no, like, stay out of the way. But then in the same breath, I get a little of how light my plate is during Christmas, even though I offered to pull my weight. So I don't really know how to Navigate that with an eight and a half month pregnant woman right now. Because I've offered to take stuff off her plate and she said no. But then I have to hear about. Yeah, that I am not really doing a whole lot this year.
- [60:17]
Josie
So what's the question, Jerry? Because it just is.
- [60:19]
Jerry
What is a guy to do? What do I do? Do I just stay out of the way and let her complain or do I take initiative and go wrap a gift?
- [60:26]
Josie
Don't take initiative. I think that you should just make your asks very clear. And you always start being sympathetic of where she is. Bri, you are pregnant. You are doing the most. My goodness. We are the luckiest to have you. And you are all the things. Mr. Claus, Mrs. Claus, the elves, like we couldn't ask for better. Is there something that I can do for you to make your plate a little lighter this time of year?
- [60:54]
Annie Agar
I need Josie to be my therapist.
- [60:56]
Jerry
That's the best Christmas gift I've gotten.
- [60:59]
Annie Agar
That was great.
- [61:00]
Josie
And then get her a day at the spot. Okay.
- [61:01]
Annie Agar
Love you guys. I would have given the worst advice. That was great advice, Matt.
- [61:07]
Jerry
You start putting stuff together for that.
- [61:09]
Matt
I was about to say, I feel like that was a shot at me.
- [61:12]
Jerry
You let her get the Christmas that she deserves along with your beautiful family. All right, well, Annie Joy, everyone, enjoy out there. We will be back with the New Year's kind of, you know, 2026 episode week following. But stay safe out there and Merry Christmas.
- [61:31]
Annie Agar
Merry Christmas.