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Bruce Feldman Talks NCAA Football Coaching Madness, Plus Matt Loves Candy Corn and Annie Agar’s MVP Favorite
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He got better as a coach. We know he loves recruiting. I know he left on really bad terms, but those people are gone. I would say, hey, can we get him on our staff?
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All right, welcome into a spooky episode of Throwbacks, everybody. Please don't forget to like and subscribe on YouTube throwback show and all social media platforms at Throwbacks Show. Don't forget to smash that, like that subscribe button. Don't be afraid. I know it's hollow.
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C
Like, subscribe, follow. Let's go.
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B
But, Maddie, it's. It's Halloween. Basically, as we air this episode on a Thursday, there's a lot of scary things going on in the NFL, but also there's a lot of scary things going on in college football with some of the coaching stuff. We have a great guest to talk about that in a little while. He's your boy. You want to. Yeah, I mean, he's coming on.
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C
Look, the best insider in college football is Bruce Feldman, my, my good friend, my colleague at Fox Sports. He's, I mean, he's as busy as you'll ever be in the world of college football right now with all the coaching fires and, and hires and who's going to go where and the fits and all of these things. I think 12 open spots right now in college football. Almost 200 million in buyout money going back to these coaches. I should have been a coach. Honestly. I tell my wife that all the time. But, yeah, it's, it's that.
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B
It's.
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It's Halloween to me. I love Halloween. It's like my, my second favorite holiday with little kids. But there's a lot of going on. There's a lot going on. Man, this is like the greatest sports month in on our calendar.
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B
Well, that's my. I have two. Those are my two questions before we bring in Bruce. Number one, is the best job in sports, a fired coach probably the best.
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C
Job outside of being a backup quarterback? Absolutely.
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Fired coach is up there in that. And then second, is this the best month for sports of all time? We obviously, we have the sports equinox. Everything is in full gear. I haven't even begun to process basketball yet. And the Victor Wembanyana conversations that we should have very soon. Who jumped from like 12 to 1 MVP odds to now he's like the second favorite after four games. But this is by far the best month for sports.
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C
I mean, October, by far and away the number one sport month on our calendar. I would have to say. I mean, I would have to say March. I mean, March Madness. April. Like, like January is pretty good with NFL playoffs, you know, like, super. I don't know, you know, like, I give a.
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There's a little, a good pop for the spring. Like spring gets a good pop of March Madness. The Masters. Yeah. Getting GE up.
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Yeah. Yeah. No, but October is, is by far and away the great. I mean, we have World Series baseball. My Dodgers. Big one. Big one. We got NFL kind of in the middle. We got college football at its best right now. NBA just started with Wemby and all sorts of crazy story lines. It is, it's, it's literally every man's dream.
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Also joining us after Bruce Feldman, of course, we got Annie Agar for our Twisted Tea segment. And we're going to do a little trick or treat for some burning NFL questions. But mat before we bring in Bruce, I had a, I had a realization and it's kind of Halloween related about you and one of your takes. We all know how strongly you feel about grown men wearing jerseys. And I've, I, I've tried to, like, see it your way. I don't fully. Especially because maybe I played a character named Turtle who wore jerseys for his entire entire run on Entourage and everyone dresses up as Turtle for Halloween. A lot of people send me their pictures of them in, like, a Knicks jersey. And Cam Scatter Boo. Awful injury. We're all so sorry. But before the injury, which I'm devastated about, he was courtside at the Knicks game in a jersey. And there's no one who's got the public eye right now quite like Cam Scatter Boo. I feel like he ended your grown men wearing jerseys take.
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C
Listen, I have no problem with. Look, I don't. To each their own. I'm just saying. I'll give you a perfect example. Last week I went to a Halloween party with my wife. I was kind of. I ended up wearing the leprechaun outfit that I wore in Big Noon because I lost a bet to Brady.
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All these. That was incredible.
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My wife goes, hey, why don't you just wear. I have like, a Savannah Banana jersey. I have like an Ohtani jersey. Like, Dodgers gave me a jersey with my name. You know, like, I have random jerseys.
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B
Yeah.
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I go, I go, babe, not even for Halloween am I wearing another person's jersey as an outfit.
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So Cam Gabu can't even get you off.
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She also told me to wear the baseball pants. I'm like, I'm not dressing up the baseball pants to go to a Halloween party.
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Get your shout out.
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Yeah.
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Well, first of all, shout out. To Cam. He. Hope he comes back.
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That was tough. That sucks so bad, man. That sucks so bad.
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C
He'll be f, he'll be fine, man. That kid's an absolute warrior. It does suck, though. He'll be back, though.
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B
Last Giants thing and then we'll get, we'll get Bruce on. I kind of feel like the vibes were so high three weeks ago, the collapse against Denver. Now the injuries. Like, we don't see Jackson dart the whole year. Right. That would almost be silly to. The Giants are going nowhere. The season is safe, competitive the whole year. What I mean is, do you want to throw him out there with the injury luck that's going on? Like, obviously he needs to play and develop, but By Like Week 13, if you've seen enough like that is, that.
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Is one of the dumber things that you've ever said.
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You're just gonna protecting your franchise quarterback and bring him back next year in one piece with a healthy Cam and healthy neighbors.
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C
This is football. You don't just, you don't, you don't just.
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Oh, hey, by the way, I just.
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I'm gonna set out the last three games because this is the NFL, dude. It's the end.
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B
Well, the last time they did that, Mr. Tommy DeVito won a meaningless week 15 game. And, oh, you're building.
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This dude needs all the rest he can get. He needs all the reps he can get.
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And that draft pick would have been Drake. Mick. All right, I, I, I just don't want to see.
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Oh, wow, now you're talking. On your starting quarterback. You wish you had Drake. May.
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I just want to see my guy Jackson slide. I just want to see that.
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But that's him. That's, that's what they have to figure out.
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I don't, maybe I don't have the faith in the coaching staff to teach him to slide. All right, enough giant stuff. It's time now for our Wendy's fresh take of the week. It's Halloween, so we gotta, we gotta talk about the, the, the thing that everyone loves to talk about. It's the Halloween candy. I know my kids are going to be separating their favorites and their not so favorites. Matt, we're going to do our top three favorite Halloween candy for this.
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All right.
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I'm going to give my three first and full disclosure. I'm not a candy guy. Meaning to me, there's candy and chocolate. I'm not a gummy worm.
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Sour chocolate counts as candy. So it is.
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But like, I just, I do the chocolate.
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Yeah.
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So in no particular Order. And this is a specific. I want the full size KitKat bar that is in my top three. It's gotta be full size.
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Well, who doesn't want full size?
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I put that right in the freezer. That's. That's for sure in my top three. Number two. I like the Reese's pieces, Not just the cup. I like the ones with the little. The little pieces not quite like an Eminem. There's a little p. I'm a peanut butter guy.
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C
That's trash, but go ahead.
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Well, then you might hate this one. I ride hard for three musketeers. I'm a. If I am one.
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Are those even. Does that even exist anymore?
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It sure does. And that's a good bite size. See, I don't think size 3 musketeer, a fun siiz one is good. The size one's better.
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I would have went Snickers and Milky Way way before three musketeers.
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I don't.
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I don't like.
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So this is where you and I differed. I am more of a candy candy guy. I am more of a sweet kind of like. So I'm going to go this one. Also this one. It doesn't necessarily fall under the kitty, but number three. I'm going Tootsie Roll. I only. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I only eat Tootsie Rolls during Halloween. It's seasonal for me. It's the holiday for me. I won't eat another. I've had. I've had a few this week.
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B
You might still have last year's in your teeth.
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C
It's possible. I will not eat another Tootsie Roll until next Halloween. That's one. Okay, that's number three. Number two. I'm going Twizzlers. I. Dude, I ravaged about 15 bags of Twizzlers the other day. We had a Halloween golf cart parade again.
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B
Do you ever do that? No.
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Just no. Twiz. Twizzler. Not licorice. Twizzlers. Twizzlers Again year round candy. Only eat it for Halloween. And my number one and by far and away the best Halloween candy that you can get is candy corn. It is. It is by far the number one Halloween candy out there. And I will stand on this hill and shout it from the mountaintops. Candy corn is my favorite Halloween candy. I eat it once a year. And when those bags come out. Dude. And my wife thinks I'm disgusting. Apparently, just like you. I should go get the jar. I should go. I should go get the jar. I should go you know what? I should go get the jar.
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Go get it, and I'll fill up some time while you go get it. Now that he's gone and can't hear me, he criticizes my sports takes all the time. Especially like, oh, you're gonna sit Jackson. I'm talking about sitting Jackson. Dart like, the last two weeks of the year if, like, the season's done. Not talking about benching him now. Not even talking about benching him. Sitting him as much different than benching. That is the worst list of candy for Halloween that I have ever, ever heard in my entire life. Tootsie Rolls that just, like, get up in your teeth for a year. He probably has last year's Tootsie Roll in his teeth. Twizzlers. Fine, whatever. Candy corn. Is it sweet? Is it salty? It looks like an earplug. Where's the candy corn, bro?
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Don't worry about it. I was just gonna make a reveal.
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I'll say you like eating the candy corn. Candy corn looks like an earplug. It looks like you're walking around eating an earplug.
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So.
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So this.
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Look at that jar.
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So this is a jar. This was full two weeks ago. This is all me. I'm the only I can in my little guy. Wait. This is about 3/4 empty. You see? Also, there's pumpkins in there, too. Pumpkins, by the way. Oh, these are good.
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I have met a lot of people.
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No, people think they're disgusting. I don't care.
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Are they sweet or are they salty? I don't even know. Are they even.
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They're a little.
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Are they both?
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They're. They're a little chalky. I think that's what people don't like about them.
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Chalky. You like the chalk. You like the chalk.
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Oh, my God. This is fire. This is.
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I have met a lot of people in my life, and I've heard a lot of different quirks and things between acting and podcasts and Athlete by far is the weirdest thing I ever heard from someone I've been close friends with by far. But you. You live. Live on that. Live or die on that hill. Shout outs to Wednesday Wendy's for a very polarizing. That is the freshest. That is a friend.
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Here's my problem, dude. I'm a. I'm a fat kid at heart, so I just. I have to have, like, 50 of those right now once I get it. Like, you know, like, my. My taste buds are going right now. We need to end this now.
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B
It's over. Thank you. Andy's Candy corny corn for the dub. Who knew?
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Our guest is a New York Times bestselling author, a senior college football insider for the Athletic and Fox Sports. He's a good buddy of mine and a colleague, the host of the Audible and one of the most well connected reporters in the game. The guy who knows who's going in the portal before they even know and where the coaching carousel stops. And that's exactly Bruce Feldman, why we have you on Throwbacks today. Bruce, thanks for joining us, buddy. You doing, man?
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Oh, good to be on with you guys.
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Is your, your phone a little, a little busier in the last couple weeks than normal?
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Man, Sunday was wild. I thought Sunday was going to be like a easier day because we have long day in the studio. And then it was crazy because it started out as like, okay, I'm hearing LSU is going to fire their offensive coordinator Joe Sloan and heard it from inside the program. And then all of a sudden, like an hour later somebody's like, wait a minute, he may not be the qu. The one who's really getting punted here. And then it was just kind of all hell breaking loose on Brian Kelly getting the boot in Baton Rouge. So it's that time of year, right? And it's been way more active this year than it was last year for you.
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Do you have to go into like a quiet room and all this is going down, like when all the information is coming at you and then you have to break it for everybody? You know, you're not multitasking is what I imagine when this is all coming in.
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No. And as, as Matt knows, like we have two 11 year old twins and I'm not around, you know, that, you know, Saturdays or, you know, too much. And you know, like, obviously I was with Matt and Brady and those guys on the road, you know, for the last few years. So I wasn't around anyway. But when Sunday hits, I was like, okay, we can watch some NFL. We can do this or we can do that. And then all of a sudden they come in, I'm like, I can't. And they're like kind of listening to stuff and they're like, who's that? I'm like, that's, you know, that's the athletic director at such and such. This is like, whatever. And I don't even, you know, my daughter doesn't really care. My son's kind of curious. But, you know, you just like, I barely saw them. I remember at some point the end of the day happened where I had to tape a video for the Athletic on what had happened, it was like a 90 second clip and I went up to the guest bedroom and I'm like kneeling on the, on the floor by. Because it was the only quiet spot in the house and I'm flubbing it. I must have had four takes and I was just kind of fried. So not complaining. It was just like it was, it was a day that I didn't think it was going to go in that direction. And it turned out to be, you know, the longest day of the season so far.
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Brute there, there's, there's a lot to unpack with all of this and obviously you're as dialed in as anybody. Almost $200 million I think is, is reaching that point of buyout money giving back to these coaches. And you said this is the time of the year. What, what is the underlying theme? Why is this happening now? You know, it started with James Franklin was the big one. It's you know, for. I think there's 12 openings right now and there's going to be more. What is the why like why is this happening now all of a sudden?
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Yeah, I think a couple of things are kind of tied together. One, it wasn't an active year last year. Yeah, North Carolina came open with Mack Brown, but it was like Purdue. There weren't the big jobs were not coming open. The other part of it that, that I think is playing a role in this is. Look, Matt, you guys, last week just saw one of the best stories in college sports in a long time. In Bloomington, Indiana, Kurt Signetti wasted no time to turn around a three win program, make them a playoff team and they're even better this year. And I get it, there's a transfer portal and everything. But what that means is. What do you mean you, you can't get this thing turned around in four years. That guy over there, Indiana, they would just, you know, they're, they just made the playoff. The, the excuses are. Feel like they're kind of out the window. The expectations are really high. And then you, you add in the transfer portal piece of this. The other element of this is, you know, you guys talk about this a lot on Big Noon is it is a different playing field now because back in the day maybe you had some SEC powerhouses that were. There was some version of nil even though it wasn't legal. You know, that was going on. Well now a lot of places look at Texas Tech, they are throwing around money. Some programs, not all, but some programs that didn't have money before are now legit players. And I don't know if they're going to become like the next or again. But it, it had been kind of unusual to see. You know, like we all remember even when we were little kids, you know, USC was great, you know, back then in Ohio State and Michigan and those kind of blue blood programs. And then you rarely got an upstart that stayed. Oregon stayed. Maybe Texas Tech will stay, maybe Indiana will stay. And so I think that is kind of added more pressure. And these ads who do these contracts are super desperate. Like, I remember this vividly. I. We rode over to Lincoln Riley's introductory press conference at the Coliseum. I mean, it was me, Matt, Josie. I remember being in the back and I remember reporting with my colleague from the athletic, Pete Sampson, that Notre Dame's Brian Kelly was getting offered the LSU job. That happened in that same. Like you didn't tell me that, Bruce. You were too busy with whatever you were busy with. I kind of remember other parts of this conversation. I do remember that we were talking about Cole in the car and. But the point is, it's just like the ads are super desperate. So they're throwing gobs and gobs of money and it's like throwing bad money after good or good money after bad, whatever that expression is.
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I've seen something on, on X from the fans and I'm actually, I'm curious of what you think is, is there so many. A lot of These deals are 10 year deals, right? 10 year, $100 million. Are we potentially going to see those deals cut in half? Like, hey, here's like, like what NFL guys. Here's four years for 40 million so that they don't get locked into this significant. I know agents probably won't negotiate that, but is that something that might help this in the future?
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It could help it. You go. You go try to tell that to Jimmy Sexton, though.
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No, I know.
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The other thing that's crazy with this is there's really like two or three agents who have almost the whole industry and when it comes to coaches, Jimmy Sexton, Trace Armstrong, there's a few other guys who have who have some smaller parts of it. But it's basically when that happens if you're caa, Jimmy Sexton's company why are you going to. Why are you going to do that? Because you're basically shortchanging or leaving a lot of money on the table for your clients. And it's all connected, too. I mean, because he has so many people who are in these searches, so I just don't see it going in the other direction.
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Is there a market now when you think about what James Franklin and Brian Kelly just went through, or do you think we won't really hear from those guys, take a year off, maybe do some TV and then resurface? What do you think currently for those guys?
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Yeah, Jerry, I. I think James Franklin wants to get back in as soon as possible. You know, he's. He's also a guy who, by the way, doesn't really have a lot of hobbies. He doesn't golf. He doesn't fish or hunt or, like, a lot of. A lot of football coaches do. I think he'll be back in, whether it's at Virginia Tech or somewhere else. He will. I. I'd be surprised if he was not coaching some more. Brian Kelly might do tv. My guess is he's getting thrown through the mud, though. He is. And the other thing with him is he likes to golf. He plays more golf than Urban does, so he's going to probably do a lot of that because he's 64 years old. And when you've been the head coach at Notre Dame and worked up to Notre Dame and lsu, do you really want to jump back into it to be the head coach at, like, Memphis or usf? I don't know. You know, I talked to somebody about maybe a scenario where Jonathan Smith is struggling at. At Michigan State. Brian Kelly has, like, a lake house up there. Maybe that would be a fit. But do you really want to work that hard to. To go through it? I mean, you already have so much money. Like, do you really need that work? It didn't seem like he wanted to do a lot of the work at this point at LSU anyway. So the question is, you know, and I don't know, we kind of game this out on our podcast the Audible, like, on Monday was, you know, maybe, you know, like Fox already has Urban. ESPN does, you know, isn't lacking. You know, they have Saban, maybe Brian Kelly goes to NBC. I don't know what they're. What they're, you know, obviously they have a connection with Notre Dame. I'm not sure how well they liked him when they had him. Who knows? But my guess is he's less likely to be on the sideline next year.
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It's. Yeah, it's, I agree. I think James will be back in coaching right away and he's a really good coach. You know, you could, you could split hairs and dissect his tenure. Penn State any way you want. The, the, the domino to me is Lane Kiffin, right? He, he's the name, he's, he's been the first call for probably, I mean, Florida we know, I'm sure lsu, Penn State doesn't, you know, that doesn't fit Lane. I don't think they want him. But Bruce, like what, what happens with Lane? I mean, put, put on your cap here. Where is Lane Kiffin coaching next year?
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Does he stay?
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I mean, he's got a great gig in Oxford, Mississippi.
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Yeah, I think, Matt, you, you'll remember this. We were in Columbus. I'm pretty sure it was like Thanksgiving weekend. Ish. And Lane was the target at Auburn and he decided to stay at, at Ole Miss. Now quite honestly, I think Ole Miss is a better job now and it's a better situation for him now than it was, you know, three years ago even. Because now, I mean, unless the bottom drops out, I mean they are a one loss team with a, with a really weak schedule the rest of the way. They're going to make the playoff, right? And so they make the playoff. Now all of a sudden it messes up the timing potentially of, of Florida and lsu. And his whole family is entrenched down there, not just his family, like his brother Chris's family and their four kids. You know, both parents passed away within the last year or so. And I think it seems, and again, you know, I don't know this for a fact, but it seems like they have gotten really comfortable there. And he can now, he can get to the playoff for sure. The question is going to be, can he actually win it from Ole Miss? I mean, the team last year was more talented than this one, you know.
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And they've never had a great defense. That's the one thing, right, that's, he just never has put together a great defense there.
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And then a lot of that requires, hey, you know, he had one big time D lineman last year. Walter Nolan was a first round pick. They don't have that this year. So I don't know if he looks at it and goes, okay, I can get more talent at Florida, I can get even more talent at lsu. It's the question if you're laying, you know, where do you want to live? Where do you want to be? Because clearly he's going to have options. I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed, though, because his job, the difference between the job at ole Ms. And LSU is as close as it's ever been. LSU is still a bigger job. You know, it's got, like, this amazing home field atmosphere. I've been to Vaught Hemingway where Ole Miss plays. It's nice. It's nothing close to what Tiger Stadium is, but, you know, I think Lane has all, like, all the control right now.
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He's got so much leverage. Yeah, he could go back and get, hey, I want to renegotiate and get 15 million because he's going to get, what, 11, 12 a year, 13 a year for one of those schools.
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The thing that always stands out to me, too, when you see this, you know, a lot of coaches going, it's now the effect on the transfer portal. Right. Like, that has to cause a little bit of a ripple effect. Or is it. Am I overthinking that? Like, if you're, you know, brought to a program with the coach in place that you want to play for, now that coach is gone. When you're a young guy like that, does that really impact your future decision?
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I think it impacts it. But also, what's different, Jerry, is now there's only one portal window.
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Right.
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So I talked to somebody at LSU yesterday who made this point about the timing of what do they do, and I was like, do you really take a coach that you are less confident in, a guy who didn't make his. Get his team into the playoff just because he's available? You could be in the same predicament if it's LSU three years from now.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And just to chase whatever you're going to do in the portal. But that's. That's the risk of it now the timetable is really screwed up. And again, I think if you're. Let's say you're Florida or let's say you're LSU and you really feel like Lane Kiffin's the guy and wants to be here, you have to basically trust Jimmy Sexton and. Or Lane Kiffin to be like, all right, we're gonna sit this out for whatever it is, an extra month and basically punt on our recruiting class and our portal class to try to make this. To try to go in this direction. And I don't know how that's going to play, to be honest, because there's just not a lot of, like, great, great candidates. You know, if you don't get Lane Kiffin, if you're LSU or if you're Florida, maybe you go after Eli Drinkwitz from Mizzou. Maybe you try to get Jeff Braum out of Louisville. He's done an amazing job. That's his alma mater. Nobody's better of these coaches against, you know, big opponents. I mean, Florida also, I think, has Jed Fish in play. He's a real candidate there. That's his alma mater. He broke in under spur or done a really good job. You know, I don't think Jeff's not in play at lsu, but he's definitely in play at Florida. So there's a bunch of dominoes that, that are going to be interesting to see where they shake out.
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C
I want to throw two names at you, Bruce, and one is Gruden. Does Gruden. Does Gruden. I mean, you know as well as I know he wants back in, and I feel like he'll take anything he wants back in. And our buddy, Coach Ogeron, I know he's willing to be a D line coach. He's kind of doing the circuit right now. I've talked to him. Do those two guys have a role in. In this whole domino this year, do you think?
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A
I don't know what, what the market on Gruden is. I know his agent actually pretty well, and for a while I didn't think he was ever going to be a college coach. It just seems like he would be a much better fit in the NFL world than in the college world, where if you've never done it, like, we're seeing a prime example of this in North Carolina with the greatest football coach in the history of the NFL. And now part of it was he made the mistake of aligning himself with a GM that. That didn't know what he was doing.
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C
Well, he's made a lot of mistakes, Bruce.
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A
Yeah, he's made a lot of mistakes.
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C
Yeah, he's a lot of other extra curriculums, you know.
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A
Yes, but. But again, you have a guy who had no experience in it and he jumped into it. He didn't even jump into the deep end of the pool. I mean, it's not like they're not playing any ranked teams and they're still whatever, two and five. But, you know, if with Gruden, I'd be surprised if he ends up in college. I'm not saying I wouldn't ever expect it, but I would be surprised with Coach O. The. The curious thing to me is, I mean, he did win a national title. There's very few people who are. There's almost none who are active. I mean, it's Ryan Day. It's Dabo, it's Kirby. That's just a short list. He got better as a coach. We know he loves recruiting. And my, My hunch is he will end up as somebody's D line coach, assistant head coach, because he's really good at that. And I, you know, almost an ideal spot for him. I don't, I don't know if the, you know, you'll. You'll get where I'm going with this. Like, if I was usc, where they're getting the ball run down their throats in South Bend, albeit by, you know, really good team, I would say, hey, can we get him on our staff? He knows USC better than anybody. Now. I know he left after he was the interim on really bad terms, but those people are gone from usc. So, I mean, you know, Matt and I know this, like, LSU was special to him, is in his blood, but the one program, he feels this, you know, like, it's. It's not just the USC thing. It's like, it's Marcus and Ronnie and all these guys that, like, are, you know, I remember being at LSU when they were on the national title run and Marcus was coming to all the games. You know, like, that's interesting.
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C
Yeah. No.
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A
Yeah. And I. I don't know. Again, I have no idea if he would work for Lincoln. I have no idea. And, you know, they have a good, you know, a D line coach now or Eric Henderson who worked with Aaron Donald with the Rams. Not like, he's not good, but like, you know, let's say he goes back to the NFL again. If I was usc, and we know USC has the money, I'd be like, man, what is Lincoln? The biggest thing Lincoln's missing out there is that. But, you know, that's, that's, you know, I didn't even know if Ed would do that at, you know, at some point because I know he left on that terms.
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C
Feel like Ed might do anything at this point to get that game.
- [30:46]
A
He might. You know, the fact that he was open to the idea of coaching at ucla, you know, like, I mean, there's a story you probably know, I forgot. It was like. I want to say it was like Chad Brown's brother. Was he one of your teammates? Right.
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C
Yeah.
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A
And I think he saw him wearing like a. Wearing like a. What looked like a UCLA colored polo. And I think he. The story I'd heard was he like walked by and almost like ripped it off without missing a beat. Like, ripped it off his.
- [31:13]
C
Off his body, that shit off you get that color off you.
- [31:15]
A
Yeah. So the fact that he was open to that.
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C
Van Brown. Van Brown. Last thing. Bruce. And we'll let you go. Appreciate the time. College football rankings come out next week, right? The first one. Is there anything you're excited to see? Kind of interested in what the committee does with the week. The first week of the rankings.
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A
I'm curious to see how high they have Indiana. You know, you, you know, they destroyed Illinois. Okay. That's, you know, it's not like Illinois is a top 10 team, but they, they've thumped whoever they should thumb. And then they went to Oregon and held Dante Moore to one touchdown. They sacked him six times. He'd only been. He's only been sacked one other time all season. You know, like, I get it, Indiana's not the big brand. But just you look at what they done resume. Wise man. I don't know. I think they should. They should get some legit number one consideration. Obviously A and M deserves that. The Notre Dame win on the road looks better and better every week. So, you know, if you asked me who I would pick as the best team, I still think it's Ohio State. But I don't think they have the best resume because the Texas team they beat at home hasn't been very good this year. It's just the way the schedule is set up for them. Whereas that Oregon win on the road for me carries a lot of weight.
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C
Yeah. I wouldn't be shocked if Indiana's one. I wouldn't be shocked if A and M's won. They'll do something at the top. At the end of the day, it always kind of works itself out, I think for me. Byu, you know, Georgia Tech, some of those undefeated teams that don't necessarily have the strength to schedule. Be interesting to see where they fall.
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B
It's so funny because that's now such a great like content day for me to add to the sports equinox the playoff rankings coming out. Like you think about like we didn't have that that long ago and now that's like a major announcement that so many people are going to wait for.
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C
Just to hear X just or Twitter just be just. Just in. Everyone is so must see.
- [33:05]
B
Yeah.
- [33:06]
C
You gotta including Bruce. Bruce is on there just, you know, somebody.
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A
Yeah. I mean two years ago I was like irate that how do you snub 13 and oh, Florida State.
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B
I remember that. Yeah.
- [33:16]
A
And it's like, okay. Like I don't know. I don't know last year who really felt like, you know, we had a bunch of three loss teams from the sec and you know, Ole Miss had lost to Kentucky. It was like a hard sell. And I just remember there was a lot of. Even after that, a lot of like, sniping about when Notre Dame beats Indiana, how Indiana didn't belong. And, you know, I guess that's. I guess that's the fun part of the sport now.
- [33:39]
C
Well, I think this, this year more than ever, I think there's more parity in college football than we've ever seen going to nil. All of all those things that you talked about earlier, I think there's probably eight, nine teams that you could realistically say they have a shot, depending on their path, they have a shot to win a national championship. Bruce, we appreciate you, buddy.
- [33:57]
B
You're the man in the business.
- [33:58]
C
And I was telling Jerry before we missed you on the road, man. Man, I'm just holding it down.
- [34:03]
A
I don't know if I missed the 5:45 lax. We're at the gate and all of a sudden Matt's like, raises long arm and has got his cell phone out. And I'm like, oh, it's too early for this, man.
- [34:13]
C
Wait, Bruce, you don't miss our flights home. Just. Just getting. Getting some wine and just talking on the plane. Come on, Brucie.
- [34:21]
A
Yeah, my. My favorite story from you, and I think you'll remember, was we're sitting opposite row or whatever. Actually, no, there's a better story involving Reggie, which we were on the back of the plane.
- [34:33]
C
What story you got? You got great Reggie.
- [34:36]
B
Do you golf with these guys or are you not a golfer?
- [34:38]
A
No, I'll golf. I'll tell you what I got by the.
- [34:40]
C
Bruce is like a college golfer.
- [34:43]
A
We. The. We're in, Jerry. So we're. We're doing the Colorado game. And so it's me, Mark's dad, who played for the Giants.
- [34:52]
B
I remember him well.
- [34:54]
A
So it's me and. And Mark's dad. And in the. No, it's me and Mark against. Against Urban and. And Mark's dad. And Urban plays a ton of golf.
- [35:04]
B
Like, so I've heard. I'm yet to play with a ton of golf.
- [35:07]
A
You know, he does the belly putter thing. All the old man Urban's a belly putter guy.
- [35:12]
B
Oh, that's huge.
- [35:13]
C
Old school.
- [35:14]
B
Yeah, you did break something on the show. Thank you, Bruce.
- [35:17]
A
So, yeah, so. But I'm gonna break this. So we're playing at this sanctuary, this really, really nice golf course. It's obviously altitude and the first hole, the first Tee. Mark gets up there. No lie. Because we have, you know, all the GPS tracking in the golf cart. His drive goes 406 yards.
- [35:35]
B
I believe it. Like in, In Colorado. I believe it.
- [35:37]
C
Yeah.
- [35:38]
A
And Mark, like, I don't know if it's ever come up with you guys, but like, Mark was a really good junior golfer. Like, so it's not like he's like this guy who is like, you know, like, like all the quarterbacks, you know.
- [35:49]
B
Are always good golfers and relief pitchers. Yes.
- [35:52]
A
And hockey players. They're all good. Right. So. But. But Mark played a ton of golf. Now Mark was like starting to spray the ball around. But the 406 yard drive, that was a real thing. We lost a bunch of money to those guys too that day.
- [36:07]
B
So that hurts.
- [36:08]
A
It was a shame.
- [36:09]
C
I can't believe Coach, by the way, Bruce has got. Bruce has got the fastest backswing.
- [36:14]
A
Oh, I will take a big hard cut at it. I had some big ducks.
- [36:17]
C
His mile per hour. This thing is just Eddie hooks it. Yeah, Bruce. Bruce, you played in college.
- [36:21]
A
Bruce is a. I did. I played one year in college. We had a funny moment. We were somewhere in Arizona. Do you remember this? And we have a guy who is a producer on the. You know, he's like a rod's right hand guy. Bartia.
- [36:35]
C
Shout out to Bardia.
- [36:36]
A
And they were behind. And I remember I hit like a one iron or two iron and I'm like, I don't know, I was like 150 yards behind them and they didn't get the card out of the way. So it's like a line drive coming right at them.
- [36:51]
C
I mean, who hits one irons? I didn't even know those clubs existed.
- [36:55]
A
Yeah. So anyway, I, I thought it was like they intentionally tried to, to limit the, the distance on my ball on the way in there. Just.
- [37:02]
B
I'm gonna be texting coach right as we hang up this, this belly putter. And the belly putter thing is my.
- [37:08]
A
I just never mark off the Mark off the tee in Colorado. It was not a fluky thing. Like, he gets some calves into it and that thing just mark and crush it.
- [37:16]
C
We did. We were at Illinois a couple weeks ago and we were golfing with the coach and he was, he. I think he drove at. He had a 320 or 300 out there just off.
- [37:25]
A
The only bad golf for our group was actually Rob. Like, Rob was. Rob was frustrated.
- [37:31]
C
I'm the second. I'm the second worst by far. I wouldn't say by far.
- [37:34]
B
You play three times A year?
- [37:36]
C
No, but I'm. But I think. But there's a massive gap between me and Rob. So, like, there's like, coach is the best. Brady's pretty good. Mark's pretty good. But they all, like, spray it around coaches.
- [37:46]
A
The coach doesn't spray Urban. Doesn't spray it around Urban.
- [37:49]
C
He's the best by far. Those two. Mark and Brady evil.
- [37:51]
A
Well, no, Joel's better than Urban, but Joel are the class. Yeah, those guys are great.
- [37:57]
C
All right, man.
- [37:58]
B
Thank you so much.
- [37:59]
C
See you guys later, bud.
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A
Later.
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B
It's that time of year again for many children across the country. School is back in session and school buses are on the road.
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C
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B
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C
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B
As we do every week, Annie Agar joins the show courtesy of Twisted Tea. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea. Today, of course, we're going to do Twisted Trivia, see if Mr. Leinert could continue to pad his lead. He's. He's got a good. He's got a good lead on your boy.
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D
What is he up? Six two, right?
- [39:13]
C
I mean, six two, Jerry. There's so much going on. This is literally like. Well, shout out to Twisted Tea, but just, just. Just like playing this game with you. Honestly, I don't really spend much time on it during the week because it really does.
- [39:26]
B
So insulting.
- [39:27]
D
It's like that meme. I don't think about you at all in the elevator.
- [39:30]
C
I really. I really don't. I love you. I love you, but I don't think about it much.
- [39:34]
B
Okay, that's good, because once we wind down with the football season, we're gonna try to resign Annie, and we're gonna do Twisted T trivia, movie business, and we're gonna see how the hell you do start throwing RA up there. And you have to get their name.
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C
That's easy.
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D
That's a great idea.
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A
That's.
- [39:50]
C
We should do it now.
- [39:54]
D
We'll throw it in there that like, like, could look like an NFL player. And then have you guys try to figure out.
- [39:58]
B
I can't wait to hit you with, like, just like a random actor who you definitely don't know. Watch you square him. That's like, I'm.
- [40:05]
C
My wife. My wife. My wife plays this game with me all the time. And I. I always. I always get it right for the most part.
- [40:11]
B
Well, that'll be maybe coming up soon. Annie, I thought before we get into the trivia, in honor of Halloween, and I love Halloween, we talked earlier about Halloween for not only the kids and the costumes, but, like, the sports of it all is an unbelievable holiday. You still don't. I mean, what's your costume party situation? Do you go to costume party?
- [40:33]
A
We're old.
- [40:34]
B
Matt and I are old. We go like.
- [40:35]
C
You still dress it up. Getting out, getting after.
- [40:38]
D
I'm actually gonna put out a video this week, but every year I've done some sports reference, OB joke type thing, and I have a. I think I have a pretty good one this year, but I'm not going to say it yet because I'm going to do a reveal on social media.
- [40:50]
C
My lean is. It's going to be something. Bill Belichick and his girlfriend.
- [40:54]
D
That would be great. Probably my favorite one I've done so far was two years ago when. Right when the Harbaugh stuff came out. And it was. He had the hamburger thing with the recruits, and then he. He had the sign stealing thing. Obviously, I dressed up as the Hamburglar and I had a Michigan hat on and I had a bag of, like, plays, and it was always my favorite.
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B
Are you dropping that, like, tomorrow? This is video dropping.
- [41:15]
D
I will. No, I think I'm gonna do it on Halloween. I'll release it. But. But like, in Chicago, people go out. We go out to bars and stuff, so.
- [41:22]
C
Oh, Chicago, Halloween probably could be so much fun.
- [41:24]
D
It's huge here. Every bar is like a popup Halloween.
- [41:28]
B
You're not some candy corn psycho, are you?
- [41:30]
D
No. Okay.
- [41:32]
B
All right.
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D
I'm a Reese's all the way, so.
- [41:35]
C
Oh.
- [41:35]
B
See, what did you just say?
- [41:38]
D
What do you mean? Oh, no, I said, listen.
- [41:41]
B
No, this. No, no, Annie, this. This deserves to be discussed.
- [41:44]
D
Did I say it wrong?
- [41:46]
C
You said it. Yeah, you said it.
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D
It's Reese's, isn't it?
- [41:49]
C
Yes.
- [41:50]
B
Everyone in the Midwest. Everyone, My every in law I have. Calls it Reese's.
- [41:55]
D
Yeah.
- [41:56]
B
So when I merely pointed out it was Reese's Pieces, like the name of the Family. I got killed. And then I brought up a point. I said, well, you know, there's another candy that they made based off the peanut butter cup. Blank Reese's Pieces. They go, oh, no, no, it's Reese's Pieces, right? You're changing two words. It's the crazy.
- [42:15]
C
That's completely wrong.
- [42:17]
D
That's how I check myself. Because if I just say it, Reese, I think just Reese's, but you have to do Reese's Pieces and then remember how to say it.
- [42:23]
B
Like they say it. And I just walk out of the room in front of my head. I'll just walk out because I can't deal. All right, that's funny. We're going to hit some NFL stuff. We're going to pose it in a way, and I'm going to throw it to you. I'll jump in. Annie. Obviously you jump in. It's just going to be trick or treat. Do you think whatever I'm about to say is a trick or a treat? Ready? Drake May, mvp.
- [42:43]
D
Ooh, Matt, you want to start with.
- [42:45]
C
That or do you want me to go ahead.
- [42:47]
D
I. MVP is. Gotta look at, I would say best odds Jonathan Taylor over Drake May right now. And I know it's a quarterback award, guys, but JT's having a heck of a year.
- [42:58]
B
He is. But if you don't give it to Saquon last year, how do you.
- [43:02]
D
I think his numbers are, like, trajectory wise, they're a little bit better.
- [43:08]
C
Fifteen touchdowns, three interceptions, over 2,000 yards, all in the top five.
- [43:13]
B
Outside ball accuracy is through the roof. And the Patriots are leading the NFC.
- [43:18]
C
And most importantly, they are 6 and 2 in the. In the AFC.
- [43:22]
D
Probably gonna win that division.
- [43:24]
C
It doesn't matter. There's no such thing as a cake schedule in the NFL.
- [43:29]
B
All right, well, we're going to stick with. I think it's a treat, right?
- [43:32]
D
Yeah.
- [43:33]
C
I think you can make. I think you can make a case that he's the best quarterback in the league right now. Oh, not based. Not based on resume.
- [43:40]
D
Love exists, guys.
- [43:42]
C
This year, Drake May might be the best quarterback in the league, so it's a treat.
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D
We're not for me.
- [43:49]
A
It's tight.
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D
Okay.
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B
All right, Ready? Jackson dart. Offensive rookie of the year.
- [43:54]
C
Zero chance trick.
- [43:57]
D
Who? Wait, who? Yeah, but he got hurt, didn't he? He's hurt.
- [44:02]
B
He's a little hurt, but he's playing through it. He's gotten through it. He's gotten through it.
- [44:05]
D
I would say him too. He's been great.
- [44:08]
B
I. I go plus without, like, I.
- [44:11]
D
Don't know how J. I mean, you tell us. Jerry, you're.
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B
No, no, I agree with that.
- [44:15]
C
Eleven touchdowns.
- [44:17]
D
That's insane.
- [44:18]
B
I agree with man. I think it's a true. And Dark also missed the first three games, so that'll impact his stats and I don't. I think the Giants are going to get to a point where they have to maybe pull the brakes on them before he gets and just say, hey, this season's over. Let's get our guys safe.
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C
Also losing Scatter Boo for more than one reason. Just morale, energy, moment like. Like. And a good player that. That will affect all of it. Them as well. Even though a book I think is a lock if he. If he stays, you know, plays enough games.
- [44:47]
B
I do think Jackson is a trick. But I will throw one other thing into the mix, though. The numbers will not bear the value of him winning offensive rookie of the year. But in terms of the rookie who's impacted a team the most is Tyler Warren, who's just impacted winning in a T. Like, he's not going to have the big enough stats to win it, but my goodness, is that dude. All right. This one's my. My personal favorite and I call it this for a reason. Last season of as I like to call it the tushy pushy Last season of I want it to be. I want it to sound as embarrassing.
- [45:20]
C
For that to get out of. Out of football. It's a terrible place.
- [45:23]
D
Thank you. Thank you. And now Green Bay doesn't look so stupid for trying to get.
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C
I think we're going to get rid of it.
- [45:31]
D
That fumble sealed.
- [45:32]
C
Well, what's your. What's your question? Sorry.
- [45:34]
B
Is it the last season? Are we the last season. Are we seeing the last season of the.
- [45:37]
C
Well, I think I. I think it's the rul. Like the guards flinch off sides every time. Like. Like they're just. They're not. They're not leasing the play and I don't know, dude. I just think it's bad for football. I used to be like, well, stop it. It's football. But now it's like, come on, man. Like, it's. That's not how football's played.
- [45:54]
D
When you can't rule how much for like, they don't know when forward progress stops.
- [45:57]
B
They have no idea about.
- [45:58]
D
That's stupid. You can't. Yeah.
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B
Okay. Couple more and we'll do them quickly. Ready? Trick or treat. Ravens will make the playoffs.
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D
I think a treat. I think they're going to pull it out.
- [46:09]
A
Really?
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D
Yeah. They're on the way back like this is. If they were 1 and 6, then we would have had a problem. But 2 and 5, I'm with any division.
- [46:20]
C
Well, yeah, let me tell you something really quick. They have the Dolphins, trash. Vikings, Browns, trash.
- [46:28]
B
Browns at home are a problem. Browns at home are a problem, especially.
- [46:31]
C
But that's the next four games. If they win those four games, they're.
- [46:34]
D
Right back in it.
- [46:35]
A
Six.
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B
Six and four. Yeah, they're in it. Yeah, they're in it.
- [46:39]
C
And then like the Steeler. I mean, I don't know. They solve the Patriots. Patriots and packers toward the end of the year. Yeah, they. They're gonna have to win a lot. They're gonna have to.
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D
I think. I don't know.
- [46:49]
C
Yeah, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say trick, because I just don't think they'll win enough games.
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B
I think they get in with. I think they're. You're looking at your seven seed Baltimore Ravens. Last one. Before we get the twisted tea, it's a little twisted trivia. And because we were talking off air about Zach Taylor and the fact that he cost me thousands of dollars by doing weird stuff with play calling and time management. Trick or treat. And this is a costume for some people out there. Trick or treat. Is Andy Reid the best coach in the NFL?
- [47:20]
D
The best.
- [47:23]
C
Probably would say. Yeah. I would say treat.
- [47:26]
B
Treat.
- [47:27]
D
I mean, variables. Men. Really good.
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C
Yeah, he's coming up very good.
- [47:33]
D
But it's not my Thomas.
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C
Andy Reid, year in and year out, man.
- [47:37]
D
Yeah.
- [47:38]
C
Different rosters. I mean, again, we had the greatest player of all time. Second, but like, different rosters. Injuries, turnover.
- [47:46]
D
I was gonna say the things he did with injuries.
- [47:48]
B
Yeah, yeah. I call it. I call it a treat as well. All right.
- [47:52]
D
Treat.
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C
All right.
- [47:54]
D
I hate to say it, but now.
- [47:57]
B
We go to the big time. Matt is up six to two in games. Matt has 22 total questions. Right. I have 14 total questions. Right. Matt has won four and what? Matt has won four to one in each of the last two weeks. So vibes are high for the west coast kid.
- [48:14]
C
Belt to ass. All right, Annie.
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B
All right, here we go.
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D
All right. We have a little theme with tight ends this week because it was National Tight End Day. You guys hadn't heard. And we have a little Halloween theme for those. So we're gonna do three questions and then two pictures again. Are you guys ready?
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B
Ready.
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D
First question. Who leads the league in tight end receiving yards?
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C
Tyler Warren.
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D
Yep. Wow, that was quick. There's no hesitation on that.
- [48:41]
C
Well, I meant to follow up on our last thing about Tyler Warren, who leads the tight ends in receiving. But that's funny.
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D
Glad you didn't say that. Okay, number two. Which.
- [48:50]
C
Do your research, Jerry.
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D
Which tight end leads the league in receiving touchdowns?
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B
That's a tricky one, Craft.
- [49:02]
D
No, not my boy. He should.
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B
It's not an obvious one, I feel like.
- [49:08]
D
Not really. I. I'm honestly.
- [49:10]
B
Is it J. Ferguson?
- [49:12]
D
Nope. That. That was a really good guess, though.
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B
All right, I'm out.
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D
Oh, my God.
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A
My gosh.
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C
You're already out. So I can ask for a hint, right?
- [49:20]
D
Yeah.
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B
No, no, no.
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C
I get one hint.
- [49:24]
D
Same division as the person that Jerry just guessed.
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C
Ferguson.
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B
It's. I know it.
- [49:31]
C
Oh, is it Goddard?
- [49:33]
D
Yep. Jerry kn.
- [49:35]
B
You narrowed it down to three teams for him of the whole NFL. Sorry.
- [49:40]
C
Yeah, but you also. You also just spit out random, random, random.
- [49:45]
B
Those were two great guesses. Okay, but that's your.
- [49:47]
C
But that's your guess.
- [49:49]
D
Tucker Craft is not just an elite tight end. He's the best tight end. No bias.
- [49:53]
B
Annie's hit just weeded out 90%.
- [49:56]
C
Yeah, but maybe you don't blur. Maybe. Maybe you don't blurt out names and you wait for the hint and then you have a better shot of winning. There's 36 teams.
- [50:02]
B
She reduced the pool down to three teams.
- [50:06]
D
I'm gonna need Eddie to start giving me hints because my hints suck. Okay, number three. Which tight end has the most targets this season?
- [50:15]
B
I'm scared to even speak now because Matt's just going to wait me out. Ask.
- [50:19]
C
Well, why don't you think about it first before you blurt out something? Dude, the most targets.
- [50:25]
D
Most targets.
- [50:26]
C
It's a tough one.
- [50:27]
D
It is. It's not who you'd expect. I think maybe.
- [50:31]
C
Maybe the tight ends have been so weird this year.
- [50:34]
D
Like, he's a well known guy. I like a. You know, one of the top ones. Just.
- [50:37]
B
Oh, oh, Trey McBride.
- [50:39]
D
Yes. Wow. Jerry, what was the thought process behind that?
- [50:43]
B
Just like, well, who's an awesome tight end? We have.
- [50:46]
C
He's the. He's the most target.
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A
Yeah.
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C
He's their number one.
- [50:49]
D
I feel like there's only so many tight ends that are like, oh, yeah, we know. Like, he gets targeted a lot. Or they.
- [50:54]
B
I should get double for not needing a hint. But. Okay, let's go.
- [50:57]
D
That's very true. Okay, picture time.
- [51:00]
B
Let's go.
- [51:00]
D
Halloween theme. Picture number one. Who is this player?
- [51:05]
C
Aiden Hutchinson.
- [51:06]
D
Yep. Nicely done. Oh, I was.
- [51:09]
C
I could barely see that. I could barely see that too.
- [51:11]
B
That's so far away. I just See, I can't even see.
- [51:13]
D
He's 11 from. Do you guys watch Stranger Things at all?
- [51:16]
B
Of course.
- [51:17]
D
New. New seasons coming out. So excited. Okay, picture number two.
- [51:24]
B
Still having a hard time.
- [51:25]
C
That's Penny Sewell.
- [51:26]
D
Yes. Wow.
- [51:27]
C
I mean, I'm good. I am good.
- [51:30]
D
He does look very different there to me.
- [51:34]
C
Why is that unfair?
- [51:35]
B
Dude, it's just so unfair.
- [51:36]
A
You.
- [51:37]
C
You like, I don't know. Penny Soul. I don't know.
- [51:38]
B
You, like, go to weddings and stuff?
- [51:40]
C
I've never met him. That was another four to one. Oh, my God. Dude, this is. This is getting outrageous.
- [51:46]
B
I feel like every week there's one that.
- [51:48]
C
Can we please do entertainment next week? Can we please do that just to.
- [51:51]
D
Give Jerry a shot?
- [51:51]
C
No, this is a. This is an entertainment show. In sports. We have an actor. Let's do it. I would love to do it.
- [51:56]
D
I think we should do that.
- [51:56]
B
I think that'd be wiped, bro.
- [51:59]
C
Okay.
- [51:59]
B
White.
- [51:59]
C
I will not get wiped, but it's okay.
- [52:01]
B
All right. I still called to question Annie. We do need to work on the hints. You cut out 90?
- [52:06]
D
I did.
- [52:08]
B
He had three teams to choose from, and he had to think I was banking on Matt.
- [52:11]
C
I remember we've done that before, dude. We've done that before.
- [52:14]
B
All right.
- [52:15]
C
It's not my fault.
- [52:16]
B
Annie, be safe on Halloween.
- [52:18]
D
Thank you.
- [52:20]
C
Reveal.
- [52:20]
D
I'm so excited.
- [52:23]
B
And keep those videos coming and keep abusing the jets whenever.
- [52:27]
D
Absolutely.
- [52:27]
B
I feel like even in a victory, it's fine.
- [52:29]
D
This is their one win a year, so, you know, there'll be more jokes coming.
- [52:33]
B
Thank you, Annie. And thank you, Twisted T. All right. Thank you to Bruce Feldman. Thank you to Annie Agar. Happy Halloween, everybody.
- [52:41]
C
Yes.
- [52:42]
B
Out there.
- [52:42]
C
Have fun.
- [52:44]
B
If you see someone running the streets, stealing all the candy corn, and he's about 6 foot 5 with a rifle, left arm rest assure it's Matt Liner. Call him out. If you see him in the streets, you see him in the airport.
- [52:58]
C
By the way, candy corn for the W. If you love candy corn like me, comment on our pages, please. Like, let's go.
- [53:05]
B
Join his Facebook group. They're a small group of candy corn lovers, and they got to stick together. Happy Halloween, everyone.