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Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
Doug Ellin on Entourage Reboot, Bob Saget’s Birthday, The Michael Jordan Cameo That Never Happened and Victory The Podcast Returning
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Matt Leinart
What are your just thoughts on a reboot?
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Doug Ellin
I mean, look, anything is possible, you know, as far as the question of like, oh, could you do the show? Of course I could write it today. And of course I know how to write what the culture is today and how the guys would adjust. The most difficult thing would be like, why do these four 40 year old plus guys live with each other still? That's.
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Matt Leinart
That.
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Doug Ellin
That's the most unrealistic situation of it all.
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Matt Leinart
Foreign.
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Jerry Ferrara
Welcome to another episode of Throwbacks. Go hit the YouTube throwback show. Subscribe, it's free. You don't even got to be worrying about money. Go to all social platforms at Throwback Show. Follow us. Got some. We got some good stuff for you today too, that you might want to comment on when you see it on our socials. But joining us today, I, I can't call.
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Doug Ellin
I mean, he's.
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Jerry Ferrara
He's my boss, former boss, but he's my boy. Doug Ellen, creator of Entourage. It's been, you know, long time.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
You know, we had Connolly and Dylan on and we obviously talk about Entourage a lot on the show, but here's how it all happened. You know, I saw earlier in the week it was Bob Saget would have been Bob Saget's 70th birthday. Rest in peace, Bob Saget. Love him. And it got me thinking of like, how did that cameo even happen? Like, famously, he's one of the more beloved cameos in the show. But how did that cameo even. So I texted Doug. I'm like, hey, Doug. Like, I might have texted him this morning. We jump on with us. We just want to talk about Bob and how that all happened. He's like, what time? Yep, I'm dropping my daughter off. I'll be right there. And that's how, you know, you got a good friend, Matt. You've had lots of people show up on short notice. You've gotten a lot of the guests on this show. I'm like, I'm happy I was able to finally come through for us.
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Matt Leinart
Oh, you've got. No, it's great. But it's all, I think anytime I, I think people want to hear Entourage, they want to hear about stories and he's the creator. Right. Like, and again, we've been doing this show now seasons, and we finally get them on. So I'm excited to not only hear about, obviously sort of how Bob Saget came about, rest in peace to the legend, but also just, you know, like, like the million dollar question too. Like the reboot question, like, things like that. Like, there's like, people want to know these things. And this is from the guy who started it all. So fired up, man.
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Jerry Ferrara
Good guy. I wore, I wore this hat for him. For those of you who know camera, that is Kevin Dillon as a cartoon monkey that on the show Johnny Bananas, that was going to be an animated series and that Doug made hats. So in honor of Doug, I wore this. And stick around. After the Doug interview, Matt and I talk some of our favorite. We do it in the Throwback 3, our favorite movie sequels as we have Mandalorian and Grogu coming out. And a million Toy Story 5 is about to come out. Million sequels are about to start hitting the summer, so we go down memory lane with that. But now we bring you my former boss, Doug Ellen. All right. Joining us, one of my good friends. I. It's weird you're such a good friend. I feel weird saying former boss. Cause we were more friends than boss employee. But you were my former boss, creator of Entourage. Doug Ellen, buddy. First of all, short notice. You pulled through. I, I, we wanted. I had an idea for a segment. I hit you up, and you're like, I'll be there. And that's what your friends do. They show up for you. Short notice.
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Doug Ellin
That's what we do, you know? But yeah, I never looked at you as an employee. I can't remember when I thought that you were my employee.
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Jerry Ferrara
The only time it did is like, you paid for lunch for me for like, eight years. That was employee, boss, employee, relationship. You bought me lunch for, like eight years.
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Doug Ellin
You were like my, you were like a little brother, you know, like when we started, man, I mean, you were what, 23, 24?
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Jerry Ferrara
Yes.
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Doug Ellin
Crazy.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, man. I, a big concern with me getting the part was I looked young. I think, Doug, you were pretty locked into Dylan right at that point. And, yeah, some age gap. And I remember going to your house, like, the night before the final test and anything to make me look older. Right. So this is kind of how the jersey thing maybe started. You, like, bring over, like, baggy jerseys, don't shave. And I wore and I brought a Jerome Bettis Pittsburgh Steelers jersey, which is the jersey I wore to the network test the next day. I think that might have helped start the turtle with the jerseys craze.
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Doug Ellin
It definitely might have, but it's crazy. You know, we've talked about it before, obviously, but nobody ever thought there was a problem that Kevin Dillon and Jerry went to high school together. When one was, was he 36 or 38? I'm not.
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Jerry Ferrara
He was 38. I mean, he might.
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Matt Leinart
He was 38 at the time.
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Jerry Ferrara
38. I was 23.
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Matt Leinart
What. What do you. I mean, now that we have. First of all, Doug, thanks for coming on. I've. I mean, I've heard. We've talked about you all the time on the pod because we talk about Entourage, but what do you remember about Jerry's kind of audition process? Was there anything that stands out?
- [04:51]
Doug Ellin
You know what? From the minute I met Jerry, I mean, you know, we only had, you know, for every role, very few people. And there was one time, you know, our. Our mutual friend Dominic Lombardozzi, who's kind of like a killer version of Turtle, you know, who ended up being on the show. He was a guy that. That we kind of thought might be the tone. But when we met Adrian and then Jerry, who. Who were both represented by Steve Levinson, we. You know, we. We had a different vibe. And Jerry. Yeah, had such a. You know, which is what I was looking for from the beginning, such an authentic New York vibe and such a great sense of comedy that, you know, immediately when I met him, I'm like, oh, man, he's perfect. But he's 23. How is anyone gonna believe this? And nobody ever said a word about it, which is pretty.
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Jerry Ferrara
Not a word. It's funny. My. My nephew now, who's gonna be 18 years old, he's graduating high school in a few weeks. He watched the show, obviously, and he. You know, the first thing he said to me, he goes, why did you use a fake New York accent? I said, what? He's like, you don't even talk like that anymore. I'm like, listen to me, you little. That's how I talked when I was 23 years old. I said, sneakers. I don't say sneakers. I said sneakers. Back then, he thought I was using a fake New York accent.
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Doug Ellin
And by the way, I loved it. It's really one of the things of Turtle's character that really grounded the show in New York was that accent. It was. You know, everything about Jerry was so authentic. It still is. But, you know, I liked his accent better back then than his, you know, his kind of British accent that he
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Matt Leinart
has now or whatever his Ohio. And I. I've lived whatever the hell you are, dude.
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Jerry Ferrara
I don't even know.
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Matt Leinart
Get you back to the west coast, buddy.
- [06:24]
Jerry Ferrara
So we don't want to step on too much Entourage stuff, because I know, you know, you got the Victory Victory, the podcast with Connolly and Dylan, and that's coming back. Like, everyone talks.
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Doug Ellin
Reboot.
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Jerry Ferrara
Are we rebooting Victory. The podcast is this.
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Doug Ellin
You know what I hope. I hope. I hope we're going to have you, you know, and. And really go through this, you know, because when we started doing it, really podcasts were just starting. We didn't even know what we were doing. So now, you know, we got a little more experience, and we want to go through the show. And we also, you know, if you ever listen to that podcast, when you come on, it's. It's just a good vibe. It feels like the show. It feels like friends just hanging out, which is what we always were. So it's. It's pretty cool, but we don't have to worry about stepping on anything, to be honest with you. People listen to something and they forget about it an hour later. So it does.
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Jerry Ferrara
That's true. Well, one of the many reasons why I wanted to talk to you, you know, we always. With throwbacks, we try to throw it back and find some kind of anniversary or thing from back in the day. And it hit my timeline that it was Bob Saget's 70th birthday. Right. Recently. And I'm not trying to bring the tone down. Obviously, what happened to him is so tragic and so many people miss him, but it just really got me thinking about that cameo, because that's one of the ones people have asked me about the most over the years. It kind of goes like, Tom Brady won. Saget's always up there. Always. So I want you to go back in time for a minute. We'll say it was 05 or 06. How give us the origin story about how Bob Saget playing Bob Saget on Entourage happened.
- [07:54]
Doug Ellin
Well, you know what? Two things about Bob, you know, because everybody. A lot of people think about Full House when they think about Bob Saget and America's Home Videos. I don't. I never watched a single episode of Full House. What I knew Bob from was Rodney Dangerfield Stand Up Day, and I forgot what it was called, but I found Dice Clay on that and Sam Kinison and Saget. And Saget was a dirty comic, you know, in a funny way. But that was. His stuff was edgy and dirty, and I always loved Bob. And Bob became friends with, I believe, Rob Weiss, you know, and Rob's like, hey, Saget wants to be on the show. You want to come up with something? I'm like, absolutely. And, you know, one of the things with any of the cameos, they're playing themselves. So some people are more sensitive than others to things, but Bob was like, well, you Know. Yeah. I get on the phone with him, he's like, whatever you want. And I. I just knew Bob's voice. So I wrote this whole script in, like, very quickly, and Bob was flat broke and living next to the guys and coming over, basically trying to borrow money all the time, whatever. And it was, you know, it was funny to me. Whatever. Send it to Bob. And Bob's like, you know, can we have lunch? And I'm like, oh, back when people
- [09:09]
Jerry Ferrara
had lunch in Hollywood together, talk about creative things.
- [09:12]
Doug Ellin
So I go to lunch with Bob, and Bob says, doug, I don't care about the coke. I don't care about the hookers. I only care about that people don't think I'm broke because I have two. At the time, you had two top 10 shows on at the same time, which still might be the only guy in the industry to have that. But he's like, you can do whatever you want with me. Throw me off a building. Just do not make me broke. So I'm like, done, Bob. It's done. So we rewrote it. And, you know, Bob is so game for anything. And, you know, when we called him for the podcast, which I. I think you came on that episode. But anyway, anytime you ask Bob for anything, and he's a. He was a very busy guy, always working, he always said yes, and he was just a great guy. So when he got the new script where he wasn't broke and he was just a coke addict who liked hookers, he was like, this is fantastic. You know, that show.
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Matt Leinart
I mean, Bob was such a legend, and, God, I remember him more from Full House, which is crazy.
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Jerry Ferrara
Me too.
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Matt Leinart
You had so many great cameos on there, and. And I think when you look back and Jerry and I talk about this all the time, like, our favorite ones and his favorite ones. Was there one for you that maybe, like, got away? Was there one that you really wanted, but you never could? Lockdown.
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Doug Ellin
I mean, I wouldn't say it got away, because we just never had a shot, but I tried to get Michael Jordan. I tried to get Jimmy Page, the guitarist for Led Zeppelin. Like, there was a time when I started getting cocky. And I'll be honest, the only things that we could always get after season one, because season one, we couldn't get anybody. You know, Mar Odom did us a huge favor and showed up Wahlberg. We didn't even know if he was coming for the pilot. Like, we literally had no idea if he was going to show up. But after season two, we started getting a certain Group of actors and then all the athletes. But I started getting cocky. I'm like, we can get anyone. Let's get Michael Jordan, let's get Jimmy Page, and let's get De Niro. So there were people that I dreamt that we could get that we didn't. But then, you know, we got so many Oscar winners and James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, you know, we got so many MVP athletes. And so, you know, all of it was great, but there were people that I would have liked get.
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Jerry Ferrara
Did.
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Matt Leinart
Did Jordan turn you down or was it just never. Did it ever get to him?
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Doug Ellin
I don't know that it ever directly got to him or not, but we didn't get him. You know, we never got like a. Maybe, you know, like some of the tougher ones, you know, which I dealt with a lot of people. I mean, Sean Penn, you know, who I wanted, who I love and have spent some. Some decent amount of time with. I mean, I had honestly, like, a two hour phone call with Sean Penn from Haiti, and I was like, when the big earthquake happened, and I'm like, sure, we will send a crew and we'll do it in Haiti where it's obviously entertaining, but where we could really raise awareness. And we. He. Sean talks a lot. He talked a lot. And ultimately didn't do it. Same with Ben Affleck. Like, I think I was on the phone with Ben Affleck for 90 minutes
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Matt Leinart
and I'm like, are you great?
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Doug Ellin
Are you.
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Jerry Ferrara
He would have been great. He would have been great. I mean, I know we had famously. Matt Damon was incredible. That's another one, too. I guess he's in, like, the pantheon of cameos because there's another guy who came in and wanted to play this, like, heightened version of himself, right? Like this ver. Like the version you think you know. You know what's tough this time of year, trying to keep any kind of routine when you're constantly on the move, Whether it's early flights, long days, or bouncing between things, it's really easy for the stuff, you know, makes you feel good to fall off. For me, I try to stay consistent with just one thing every day. Something simple that keeps me feeling on track. And that's where Kachava's new travel packs have really been clutch. They make it ridiculously easy. You just toss a couple of packs in your bag and you're good. No scooping, no mess, no thinking twice about it. And it's not just convenience. It's actually doing something for you. You're getting plant based Protein, fiber, greens, probiotics, all in one shake. I've noticed better energy throughout the day, and it keeps everything balanced even when my schedule is not. It's clean, too. No artificial flavors or sweeteners. Non gmo, no soy, no gluten. Just real ingredients that actually taste good. And having that consistency even when everything else is moving around makes a big difference. Take your daily ritual with you. Go to kachava.com use code throwbacks for 15 off your first order. That's Kachava K A C H A V A dot com code throwbacks I'm
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Jerry Ferrara
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Matt Leinart
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Jerry Ferrara
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Matt Leinart
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Jerry Ferrara
I always favor some of those earlier ones because I remember how that's what like every time I see now like Ali Lauder. Was she on Landman or one of the.
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Doug Ellin
Yeah, yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
I like and I see.
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Matt Leinart
I feel like everybody made a stop
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Jerry Ferrara
on Entourage, but I just like I'm so happy for her because she literally showed up in the pilot when there was no that one quick cameo that kind of legitimized Vince as a ladies man a little bit and she came on and crushed it. Always roof her. And that's why when I even think of Saga, that was early season two. Like we were established for sure. But I don't. People aren't beating down your door just yet.
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Doug Ellin
No, no, definitely not. But I mean, Ali Larder. Just to throw that out quickly. I mean, Gina Gershon was. Was supposed to play.
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Jerry Ferrara
That's right.
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Doug Ellin
She was doing the role. And like an hour before we get a call. And again, I'm not. I'm not blaming Gina because I don't know personally, but we get a call that she didn't realize she was supposed to be playing herself, and she's not coming. Okay? So the. So, you know, imagine we're like. And at the time, HBO is the king of the universe, and we're like the schmucks doing this little low budget thing on hbo. And I'm like, I have an executive there. I'm like, we don't have an actor showing up. And Adrian actually called Ali because he. He was friends with her and she lived near wherever that location shooting some club.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, yeah.
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Doug Ellin
And she just came and showed up. So I wish her.
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Matt Leinart
That's awesome.
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Doug Ellin
Hundred Emmys and everything else good to happen in her life, you know, But Saget, obviously, you know, that was one that was like, oh, okay, we're gonna get Bob Saget and let's do something special with it. So.
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Jerry Ferrara
And so I knew we were in for something special with him when I think the first thing we shot was his character coming over to bring us, like, a muffin basket. And then he does this great bit at the door when he's leaving. He's like, anybody an Xbox guy? Like, he's trying so hard to fit in with us. And then he did this handshake with me that to this day, I don't. It was the only time I never really broke with laughter. Like, I never really ruined too many. I was always able to hold it together. I think that was one of the only times where I had a hard time not breaking because he took my hand and he's like, not a little guy, Matt.
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Matt Leinart
Like, yeah, no, he's big.
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Jerry Ferrara
Solid. Six one, right? Six foot, six one.
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Doug Ellin
Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
And he's like manhandling me with this hand. And then I always tell people a lot of lines get thrown at me over, like when I'm walking out in the street sometimes. But one of the ones that has standed the test of time is don't get no. Just get blocked by Bob Saget, which I'm proud to say is one of my favorite.
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Matt Leinart
So many great lines you ever wrote. Lines.
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Doug Ellin
Yeah, I mean, you know, it was. Again, it was thinking about that he's gone as crazy. But. But really remembering him is. Is.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yes.
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Doug Ellin
You know, all. All our cameos were so good. They all wanted to be there, you know, for the most part. So we never had, like, issues. But Bob was really like one of those guys. Gronk also, by the way, if you remember, Jerry Gronk was serving soup to extras at 2 o' clock in the morning. He was just, like, happy to be there. And Bob was like that too. Whatever you need. And just one of the great guys of Hollywood, you know, for. For real. Like, just a good, good person, you know.
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Jerry Ferrara
The GR Cameo was electric. He came in. He was in the movie. He was in the movie.
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Matt Leinart
That's right, yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah. Now, was he on crutches, scripted, or was he actually injured?
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Doug Ellin
He was injured from. I don't even know if it's a Super Bowl. I can't remember, but I just remember.
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Jerry Ferrara
Oh, right, yeah.
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Doug Ellin
Time is so fast. You know, Russell Wilson was in the scene. He was a buddy of mine at the time.
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Jerry Ferrara
He overthrew Connolly.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, that's Jerry.
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Jerry Ferrara
Jerry.
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Matt Leinart
Jerry always talks about Russ.
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Jerry Ferrara
I talk about Rust dog. I am gonna lie.
- [18:37]
Matt Leinart
So Jerry. Jerry doesn't dislike a lot of people, but I kind of think Jerry really dislikes Russell Wilson. I'm just throwing it out there.
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Doug Ellin
He's not. He's not Bob Saget. Let's put Bob Saget. He's not, you know, But I remember looking when Gron came on the set because I think Henry Penzy, who was one of Wahlberg's friends, Brock definitely met
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Jerry Ferrara
Henry Matt for sure, you know, with Julian Edelman.
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Doug Ellin
And I forget who else is there, you know, and. And Gronk was up for whatever and. But I just remember Russell looking at Gronk because if you remember, at the time, they didn't really have a. A big receiver or tight end Seattle. And he was just looking at Gronk and he was like, God, I need one of those, you know, Because, I mean, Gronk is a. I mean, he's a giant. You know, when you're standing next to him, thinking about how he moves, the way he moved is pretty nuts. But that was. That was also one of the great ones in that scene too. Was he?
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Jerry Ferrara
That's right. Yeah.
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Doug Ellin
At that party in the movie.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah,
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Doug Ellin
yeah.
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Matt Leinart
Jerry, where someone breaks. Does it. Does Connolly break his arm?
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Jerry Ferrara
Connelly breaks his leg or his leg. And that was a Russell Wilson pass. We've told the story before. Connelly caught it. Then he tried to extend over the goal line, get the touch. Because him and I. And I was like. I had him wrapped up. And as he extended, I, like, slid down his body and like, landed on his leg. And we both heard, like. And I literally went, what was that? Kind of like, oh, my leg. So let me wrap it up with Gronk now. So we just think that Connolly has, like, a bad ankle spray. Russell Wilson's, like, lacing up his sneaker. He's got an ankle spraying. Lace up your sneakers. His bones popping out. And then. But we didn't connly. Didn't run to the doctor. He tried to play through. Later that day, we're doing that whole party scene. The thing we were ending with was it was like a intimate sex scene that Connelly had, right? So I remember all being huddled up. Gron's in the huddle, of course, lack
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Matt Leinart
of a better word.
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Jerry Ferrara
And he's, like, talking, and everyone's like, should, you know, maybe get him, like, a painkiller or something? And then ground. And then Connie's like, ah, I got this whole sexy no. And Gronk's like, well, if you're doing. If you can have sex, you shouldn't take a painkiller. It's like, not really going to have sex. It's a sex scene. He's like, oh, well, then do what you want. But he walked away. He thought, like, oh, well.
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Doug Ellin
First they were talking about shooting him up with, what is it, Turtle?
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Jerry Ferrara
Is that what tore at.
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Matt Leinart
All right, but Doug. But Doug, do you know all this is happening? Like, when it's happening? Like, do you know he breaks his leg? Oh, yes.
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Doug Ellin
You're like, I'm in the room with this. And I'm like, I'm. You know, I'm. I think Jerry will agree. I'm, like, more concerned about my. My friends than getting the set, you know, like, we know there's movies where guys are like, you know, Apocalypse Now. Coppola was like, martin Sheen had a heart attack. I don't care. Put a stick up his ass and throw him on the set. But I'm like, we got to get you to the hospital. And Connolly, I guess in his defense, I mean, because he must have been in severe pain, he's like, I'm not going to the hospital. I'm getting this scene done. Which it really would have. You know, when you're making a movie with a relatively low budget, it would have killed us if we had to shut down that whole thing, but. So Kylie played through, but ended up
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Jerry Ferrara
getting screws put in his leg. Matt. Like, it was like a real bad
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Matt Leinart
portals where you get. We get shot in the ass before games. That does that.
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Jerry Ferrara
Everything.
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Matt Leinart
Three hours of no pain.
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Jerry Ferrara
I'LL take right now just to get through the day with the kids.
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Matt Leinart
Doug, what a. What a. I mean, as a fan and getting to do this with Jerry, it's just such a great run you had. And I feel like, gosh, 20 years later. And maybe it's because my whole algorithm now is like Jerry and Entourage, but it's just.
- [22:03]
Jerry Ferrara
And mine is USC highlights.
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Matt Leinart
Well, no, but I'm just saying this show is. This show is such a legendary show and it's like, stood the test of time, and it truly is a testament to you and just everybody, man, it's so fun, like, to hear. One of my favorite episodes on Throwbacks is we had Dylan and Connolly in person with Jerry, the four of us, and we just like. I sat for like an hour and a half and just watched these three dudes relive the magic like the last 20 years. It was just. It's so cool what you created, man. It really is. And it's still.
- [22:32]
Doug Ellin
We had a really great group and it was a special time. And everybody, Everybody, for the most part, is still pretty close, which is very cool, you know, which it still has
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Matt Leinart
a huge impact today. Like, everyone still talks about. They love it.
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Jerry Ferrara
The youngins, like the 17 to 28 year old, are discovering it. And it's a lot of edits and clips that my nephew's sending me going, like, guys, have you seen this show Entourage? Like, they've just discovered something fresh and new and they're like, is this what LA was? Like, is this what, 2000? The early two. The 2000s and early 20s?
- [23:05]
Doug Ellin
Yeah, it was.
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Jerry Ferrara
Wow, this looked amazing. And I'm like, you know what? It's a time capsule.
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Doug Ellin
It definitely, in the last five years, it's definitely grown on my. My. My daughter. I have an older daughter too, So I have 24, 22 and 3. But my 22 year old just graduated Boulder and her boyfriend's fraternity, the pledges were called Lloyd's. So that's like, you know, 2024. Like, they'd walk around campus, you'd hear people going, you know, that's the greatest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, we definitely have kept an impact, especially given that, you know, it's on hbo, which is still a limited audio. I'd love to, love to still see us on Netflix, but it is n. See, it's. It's, you know, it's avoided some of the nonsense of the, you know, of the. Of the culture movement or, you know, the writers, I. I would say their culture movement. And the kids get it, that it is at the end of the day, because it was, you know, it was a show about friendship. And yeah, they, they, they spoke a little vulgar, but they were pretty good group of guys that I think all of us would like to have as our own friends, you know.
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Jerry Ferrara
So I always love when you could say Entourage sort of predicted things or even showed you things. Like obviously Aquaman is always like number one, right? I, I don't believe that Warner Brothers was talking about doing an Aquaman movie before Entourage did the Aquaman storyline. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sitting there with studio executives. Several of like the Vince movies have gone on to, in their own way, become real movie now. Yeah, I always want. Because I don't even think I've ever asked you, like, how did you figure out, like, this is gonna be the fake movie Vince is gonna do? Like, where did Aquaman come from? Because also Cameron has like a million Avatars out now. I remember he had a few requests too when he.
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Doug Ellin
Yeah, I mean, things would come, you know, like Medellin was just like. I was, I was reading, I was reading the book Killing Pablo in Hawaii and I'm like, this would be a great movie, you know, and you know, I could see Vince playing this guy. So, you know, that's how that happened. Aquaman's a different story because no, they weren't talking about it. Nobody was talking about superhero movies at that point. They were a joke. And the funny thing about Aquaman to me was this is the stupidest idea of all time. Unless James Cameron directs it. Who would think that it's a billion. I mean, I actually think the movie was horrible anyway, but, but the real movie. But it's a billion dollar franchise.
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Jerry Ferrara
Franchise.
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Doug Ellin
Every, you know, super superhero movies were big like I guess in the 80s, 70s maybe, and then they disappeared and they were just seen as so stupid. And now we know the last 20 plus years, it's pretty much all that gets made, so. But no, at the time it was, it was like a joke. And that's why, you know, again, I try to write things as realistic as possible. But to me, from my mind, the only way that movie could have been good at the time was if Cameron directed it so well.
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Matt Leinart
I, I want to ask, I want to ask this because this is the million dooll question and everyone talks about it. And I don't know if you saw the April Fools joke, by the way.
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Jerry Ferrara
That was all Matt's idea. I did not want to do that
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Doug Ellin
fruit.
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Matt Leinart
And Jerry was so pissed, like he Was so mad. I can't do this. I'm like, of course you can.
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Jerry Ferrara
People, people are gonna get mad.
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Matt Leinart
I, I know the. I know the reboot question, and I get it, but I think everybody is there. Is there a world in which we see that? Does. What does that look like? Like, like what would. What are your just thoughts on a reboot?
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Doug Ellin
I mean, look, anything is possible. You know, we obviously, like I said, for whatever reason, the culture has taken a lot of swings at us. Specifically, like, they somehow, they somehow don't find, you know, Sopranos, which again, I'm not comparing it quality wise. Think whatever you want about whatever you want, but Sopranos and where they beat up women and when they murder people is not a bad thing. But a show where people say some racy language for some reason is like, got this weird thing. But as far as the question of, like, oh, could you do the show? Of course I could write it today. And of course I know how to write what the culture is today and how the guys would adjust. Could Ari walk around his office speaking the way he did? Of course not. You'd be fired in a second. They'd be videotaping you all day long. But the reality was that show was a very realistic look at how people were speaking in Hollywood at that time. So you can like that or not like that, but it was certainly not to. Not meant to offend anybody. But will it actually happen? You know, it's not something that I really give a lot of thought to. If someone decided they want to do it, then I would go, okay, let, let's, let's get into it. But I think with the podcast, which I think you really get a feel of, of what the vibe of it is and, you know, anything is possible because the guys are all still great.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yeah.
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Doug Ellin
And, you know, we just have to figure out the most difficult thing would be like, why do these four 40 year old plus guys live with each other still? That's. That. That's the most unrealistic situation.
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Matt Leinart
That part.
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Doug Ellin
Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
We used to think it was like, not think, but there was a lot. I feel like it was dialogue. Like, we can't all live together when we're in our 30s, bro. Like, what do we do?
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, I do feel like you guys would know this, but better than I would. But I do feel like maybe there's somewhat of a culture shift happening because you see all these roasts happening and all this, and it's like kind of getting back to like, like comedy is kind of getting back to comedy.
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Doug Ellin
There's no doubt Kevin Hart and the Brady Roast, you know, and again, I don't say that's. That's why. Oh, there's no. No for sure. Yeah. At this point. But I think I always believe you can do good comedy. Always. It just has to be good, you know, and. And I think. I think that we could probably do something good. You know, we. We did a pilot last year, and Jerry was going to come on. If the show actually went, we were going to do something more with it, but we did something with Charlie Sheen, who I. I thought if anyone. If anyone's culture shift needs to come back, it was him. And we made a great show, and it's very good. I, I think that people were. Were okay with the tone of that. Again, I, I don't even like to make it like, oh, my God, Entourage was the wor. The worst. It wasn far more vulgar stuff on even at the time and since. But, you know, things are different. HBO owns the rights to it, so it's really. Who knows what happens when this. Paramount, to be honest with you. David Zaslav, who's the head of Warner Brothers, the first thing he said on CNBC when he took the job, which he's subsequently made about $400 million since then, but he said, hbo, we're the greatest brand in the world. We have Sex in the City, Sopranos and Entourage. So I, I thought then they were going to be calling when you have the guy going on cnbc, but, you know, that we never heard from him, so.
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Jerry Ferrara
Well, other things I take a lot of pride in. We showed shoe culture waiting online for sneakers. No one knew that was a thing. Comic Con, now everyone uses Comic Con in regular life language. We were like, what is this nerd fest we're going to. That was like actual dialogue, obviously. I mean, Miles Teller, I think, just sold a. Some kind of alcohol company for a. Probably made 101st on that. I mean, there's just a lot of. And also, like, you know, we had a little character dedicated to Harvey Wine Guard that was not very favorable in the long run.
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Doug Ellin
And the football team. Ari Emanuel is going to own a
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Jerry Ferrara
football team an LA football team.
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Doug Ellin
Mike Meldman, who, you know, I had on the show helping bring the Rams back to la, owns, you know, the Raiders Raiders. And Ari is going to own whatever the hell he wants to. To own, you know, so we definitely had some stuff that definitely that. That came true.
- [30:37]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, brother, I love you, legendary Ron, man, you know, let's get this victory the podcast thing going. Let's just get it going because I got some things to say now. I. You know what? I haven't gone back and looked at the episodes in a really, really long time.
- [30:52]
Doug Ellin
Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
And now I'm at such a different place. Like I said, you're experiencing now to think, like, your kids, like, are 24, 22. Like, I remember holding Maya when she was your daughter. Now I remember her being that age. So I think, and I think we got to involve the. The youth with the youths. We gotta maybe bring on some of the younger people. Be like, what is drawing you to this show? Why? Because maybe that's something we can tap into.
- [31:15]
Doug Ellin
It'll be great. Yeah. Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
You're the man.
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Doug Ellin
Thank you, Doug.
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Matt Leinart
Thanks for coming on, man.
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Doug Ellin
Absolutely. Guys, be good.
- [31:21]
Jerry Ferrara
Two friends show up to a podcast on very, very short notice with a good camera and a real microphone.
- [31:26]
Doug Ellin
Hopefully it looks good. Yeah, I don't know. And go. Next J. Go Nicks.
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Jerry Ferrara
Okay, this next segment. Nitsa Muscle memory. Click it. Don't risk it. Paid for by Nitza. This is where we kind of figure out something that we could just call upon when needed. So for you, Matt, I would say my question would be, what wide receiver? You can go to college. Bat 2. You don't have to stick NFL. What wide receiver or tight end or running back? The backfield. Who did you have the most quarterback to receiver chemistry with?
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Matt Leinart
Well, I had the most chemistry with my center, you know.
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Jerry Ferrara
Oh, wow. You definitely clicked it and didn't risk it.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, I would. I. I would say. I would say Reggie Bush and, and, and it may sound obvious, but, but. And I would go back to the Bush push plays. One play, right? The infamous play we've talked about a thousand times. And every. But to be on the same page of that, in that moment with everything on the line, I mean, literally everything for that season on the line and him understanding the situation and give me a little push and all that. We joke, but like, genuinely just knowing, like, having that chemistry and then more with Reggie, too. It was just. He practiced so much at wide receiver because he was one of our best wide receivers and he was the best playmaker in open fee, in the open field. I just always knew, like, I always knew what the fade route looked like. I always knew what the slant and go look like. I always knew that, like, hey, if I just get it there, right? Like, I always knew that with him. Right. It was just one of those things where it was very unspoken in the huddle. You just had an idea and you went out There, and you executed. And that just shows up in. Right. The stats, the wins, and all of that stuff. So that. That would be, for me, the chemistry of Reggie and I. We played three years together and an incredible run in so many plays. Or we just knew, right? We just knew what was going on. So for me, it's Reggie. I would be curious for you, Jerry, was there someone, whether it's Entourage probably, or a movie that you.
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Doug Ellin
Just.
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Matt Leinart
The minute you walked into a scene, the minute you walked into set, you're like, this is like, this is going to be easy, right? Was there someone like that for you with the chemistry?
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Jerry Ferrara
You know, chemistry is a funny thing. Like, I almost wanted to frame that question for you differently, which would be like, what. What makes it chemistry? Like, how could you look back? But I think you explained it inadvertently just by.
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Matt Leinart
I think what makes a chemistry is just like the unspoken. Like, you just know.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yes.
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Matt Leinart
You practice so much that you just know. Like, hey, I know where you're gonna be. Go.
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Jerry Ferrara
So answer. Let's start with Entourage for a second, because that's obviously, like, the pro. The most defining thing in my career. It has to be Kevin Dillon. I mean, I like to think we all had great chemistry together. The four guys and Piven. But with Dylan and it. I don't think it was what anyone anticipated because. And we just had Doug on, and we should talk about this next time. But people were worried because Dylan, you know, I say this with all respect, is a little bit older than me. You know, he's 15 years older than me. They were worried. Like, when we first started, we were supposed to be in, like, high school together, but Dylan's 15 years older than me. No one ever asked about that. And then I started getting all these scenes with him, and to me, chemistry in acting. I forget who made this quote, but if you're both trying to make each other look good, it's gonna work, right? So I got to know Dylan so well and all his mannerisms and when. And yeah, when he. So I knew when to leave a pause because he's gonna do something or make one of those looks. I knew when to kind of, like, poke him to get him to get one of those Johnny Drama as I wear the Johnny Bananas hat responses. So Entourage, for sure, it's me and Dylan, and it was the least likely in the beginning. I think people had. Outside of that, I just go, I'm gonna put a whole cast on it. The entire cast of Think Like a Man. That's a movie that I.
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Matt Leinart
That's A good one I almost passed
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Jerry Ferrara
on because they offered it to me, and they're like, you're gonna play Gabrielle Union's love interest. I went, no, I'm not. Because no one's gonna believe that. Who's gonna believe that? Like, Gabrielle Union wants me to marry her. And my character is like, no, I'm good. I don't think I want to marry her. So I almost said no for that. But what was cool was we would do all these scenes with just the guys, right. Playing basketball. Kevin Hart, Michael Ealy, Gary Owen. And then we'd have a week where it was couples. So I do two days with Gabrielle, and Michael Leely would do two days with Taraji. So it. That movie is just loaded with chemistry. So that would be my answer.
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Doug Ellin
How much.
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Matt Leinart
How much of that movie was improvised when the guys were together?
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Jerry Ferrara
I think Kevin and Gary had the green light. I would say, of course.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
And. But Gary had a great way of making this actual scripted dialogue feel improv. That's just what Gary's really good at. Kevin, too. We would all let stuff fly for the most part. But no, the script was also really, really good. But, yeah, I think I would say Kevin and Gary had the. Had the green light to go, so.
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Matt Leinart
So good, man.
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Jerry Ferrara
Shout out.
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Matt Leinart
You and Dylan, man.
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Doug Ellin
Yep.
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Matt Leinart
I feel like he had great chemistry with everybody because he's just that type of dude.
- [36:36]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah. I mean, we became a duo at one point. And here's how I knew, though. I was in trouble. There I was, man. We had Doug on. We didn't ask him this stuff. There was a line in episode three, the Jimmy Kimmel episode, which to me is the episode, like, we've talked about where we all figured it out. Right. And we're rehearsing the scene, and my. I had a line in the script, Turtle, and my line was, we got to get there early. Jimmy Kimmel's green room is stacked, stocked like a trout pond, meaning lots of girls there. Right. And I said it in, like, rehearsal, and it got, like, some nice laughs. Somehow Doug was like, kevin, you try the line. Then Dylan said it. Jimmy Kimmel's green.
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Doug Ellin
Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
The entire room erupted.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah. So you lost the line.
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Jerry Ferrara
I just had the best joke, maybe in the episode, and it's now his. And that was an early sign of, you know, tee this guy up. Tee him up, because he's a home run hitter. So shout outs to Nitza. We're going to keep going. Some of the memory lane stuff and muscle memory, remember, click it. Don't Risk it. Paid for by Nitza Matt, there's a. There's a big movie coming out. I know you. You might not be the biggest Star wars guy I used to be. I'm not the biggest. We've got Mandalorian and Grogu coming out. Like, it makes me remember all the times people used to wait online for movies like that and big sequels and all that stuff. I never did that. And I don't know what movie would make anyone wait online. You didn't. You don't strike me as someone who camped out all night.
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Matt Leinart
The only time my mom or dad ever waited in line was to get the new Xbox for Christmas or something like that, or the, or the new Nintendo. I think it was probably Super Nintendo back in the day when you had to wait like Best Buy or, you
- [38:17]
Jerry Ferrara
know, we talk a lot about, you know, back in the day and like how things were so much better. And I do agree, however, that part is better. The fact that you don't have to go wait until people online for a Cabbage Patch Kid doll or something. Oh, Tickle Me Elmo, I remember, was the one that people were fighting me, baby. So, yeah. And also we got this Week is God, 1999, Phantom Menace came out. That was when people were waiting online. So we're going to talk about our favorite throwback three movie sequels. You can go drama, you can go comedy, you can go anywhere you want. These are your personal, not the AFI list, your personal movie sequels. And should we get one rule out of order? Can we do part three, part four?
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Matt Leinart
You have to, right?
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Jerry Ferrara
I think trilogies.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah. I mean, there's so many. Yeah.
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Jerry Ferrara
Sequel. At least another one. Okay.
- [39:07]
Matt Leinart
Only for one of them, though.
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Jerry Ferrara
Throwback three movie sequels. Matt Leiner, go.
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Matt Leinart
There's way too many to choose from. But my, my third would be Batman Dark Knight.
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Jerry Ferrara
Absolutely.
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Matt Leinart
I mean, lutely, I think that's a universally one of the greatest movies. And by the way, I did. I love Star wars when I was a kid. I just never followed up. And when my kids get back into it, I'm sure I'll rewatch all those. But you go back to Batman, Dark Knight, I think it was 2008. Is that, is that ring a bell? Christian Bale, to me, the greatest Batman we've ever had. You go Michael Keaton, you go back in the day. But Christian Bale, the greatest Batman. And you had the late Heath Ledger, which gave the, you know, the award worthy, obviously performance. So to me, that is one of the greatest sequels of all time. Number Two, this one is going to make you laugh because it's for sure as hell not going to be in your top three.
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Jerry Ferrara
Let's hear Top Gun Maverick 30 years, 40 years later.
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Doug Ellin
That's why.
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Matt Leinart
Because Top Gun is my top three movie of all time.
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Doug Ellin
It is just.
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Matt Leinart
It's one of the greatest movies ever made, in my opinion. I think a lot of people would agree It's a top 10 movie, right?
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Jerry Ferrara
Did you have Top Gun 1 on VCR tape? Like, like.
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Doug Ellin
Oh, for sure.
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Matt Leinart
That's how you know Top Gun. I've watched. If Top Gun is on TV right now, I'll go watch it if I have an hour and a half, easily. So when, When's the sequel? When's the sequel? When's the sequel? And everyone. And I'm also like, man, I don't want to ruin the original Top Gun because most sequels aren't great. I thought when Top Gun Maverick came out and I, I might have seen it in the theater because I was so excited.
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Jerry Ferrara
That was like the first movie too.
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Matt Leinart
I did. I saw it with my dad and my brother. We were like, let's.
- [40:52]
Jerry Ferrara
We hadn't seen a movie together movie in 10 years.
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Matt Leinart
And by the way, we walked out and I was like, holy, that was a great movie. Yeah, Miles Teller was great. Tom Cruz is great. So Top Gun Maverick.
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Jerry Ferrara
Well, real quick on the Miles Teller thing too. At. From an acting point of view, when you hear they're making that movie and they're going to have Goose's son, that's the role that every 30, 28 to 35 year old actors like, I gotta get that part. Shout outs to Miles Teller. That was the part. They did a long search. I was like, Glenn Powell was in the mix.
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Matt Leinart
I was gonna say Glenn pal. It was a great guy.
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Jerry Ferrara
That's the role. Every dude like 28 to 35 is like, I gotta be Goose's kid. I got.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, that was so. That's one of my favorites, man. That's another one like I'd watch right now. And then number one is Rocky 4.
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Jerry Ferrara
Rocky 4.
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Matt Leinart
Ending the cold War. Let's end the Cold War.
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Doug Ellin
It's.
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Matt Leinart
It's again. Again. It's, it's a low hanging fruit one. Because in my opinion there's a lot of great Rockies. I just think Rocky 4 is the best. I always have the storyline, going to Russia, the like just everything about it, right? One of the most quotable ones. Beating Ivan Drago, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, it's just my, my. It's literally my top probably two favorite movie of all time is Rocky 4. So I got Rocky 4, I got top Gun, Maverick, and I got Batman, Dark Knight as my great sequels.
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Jerry Ferrara
I can't let the Rocky thing go for a second. I gotta talk number one.
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Matt Leinart
Rocky is like a piece of one
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Jerry Ferrara
of the first movies I remember seeing in theaters. I think it was not long after my dad passed away and a neighbor's father or one of our friends that took me, my brother and his son and we saw. And I remember Matt can close my eyes walking down the ramp of the theater. And I just went up to my brother all fired up, put my hands up and I like popped him with a little jab. He turned around and punched me dead in the nose in the theater and flattened me bloody, no blood everywhere. The poor guy was doing a nice thing taking two kids whose dad just died to the movie theater. And one of them just flattened his younger brother, laid me out. Busted nose everywhere.
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Matt Leinart
By the way, under, under, underrated, off of this is Creed. The Creed movies are very good too.
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Doug Ellin
Like.
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Jerry Ferrara
Like that's a reboot to me though, because they.
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Matt Leinart
It's a. It's a reboot. But even like Creed 2, like all of those Creeds are really good to me. So the Rocky to the Creed reboot. I mean, fant. I mean, God, there's nine of them, right? Total. Like, those are all.
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Jerry Ferrara
I think I've watched Rocky 4 the most. But in terms, I always judge to the Rockies. Like if you needed to get fired up for a workout, what Rocky training montage are you putting on? And the Rocky four. One in the snow.
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Doug Ellin
Climbing the snow.
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Matt Leinart
In the mountain.
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Jerry Ferrara
Beard. He had the beard.
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Matt Leinart
It's just so good, dude.
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Doug Ellin
It's just.
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Jerry Ferrara
That's a great list. I think that's a very personal list.
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Matt Leinart
I like it's personal. Top guns personal. Yes, I know.
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Jerry Ferrara
I'm going to. I'm going to keep it personal for me. All right. I'm gonna get the elephant out of the room. Godfather 2, greatest sequel ever made. We all know that. That would be on my list. I'm gonna try to withstain from using. You know what? I'm keeping it on. That's Michael Jordan. I have to put it on. I just watched it on a flight two weeks ago so that we could put as my number one or whatever my other two. Matt Christmas Vacation qualifies as a sequel. It was the second one made in the National Lampoon's Christmas.
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Doug Ellin
Was it.
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Jerry Ferrara
What was the first one? They went to Wally World. That was just That's a Christmas Vacation. Absolutely. A sequel. And that's one of the. I probably watched that movie more than anything.
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Matt Leinart
Is Christmas Vacation a top two or three comedy of all time?
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Jerry Ferrara
For me, I'm gonna say like, yes again, but again, it's personal to me.
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Matt Leinart
No, I think it's.
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Jerry Ferrara
It aged so differently now, watching it with kids. Like, I put up the Christmas lights. I always turn the jam.
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Matt Leinart
Closer eyes.
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Jerry Ferrara
Come over here, Russ. Come see the light.
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Matt Leinart
Jacob, when the red. When the red bikini comes out of the pool, do you tell your boys to come out to turn.
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Jerry Ferrara
Turn away?
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Doug Ellin
All right.
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Matt Leinart
And that's a good one.
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Jerry Ferrara
My next one. I've watched this movie a hundred times. I still talk about it. I think it's a great reference point to look back. Back to the future, too. Love the hoverboards. I. I still, like, wish that I could someone would come leave me the sports almanac so I could just basically quit everything and make a few million a year just betting on games. I know the outcome to. I know we didn't get hoverboards and it age in a certain way. But just in terms of, like, the
- [45:22]
Matt Leinart
movie, at some point, the movie I
- [45:24]
Jerry Ferrara
watched the most, Back to the Future Part two was up there. And I prefer it more to even part one to some degree. I think when you're a kid, you don't appreciate Rocky 1 or Back to the Future 1 as much as you do when as an adult.
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Matt Leinart
I mean, Rocky was in the 70s, dude.
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Jerry Ferrara
And look, shout outs to Rocky, too. You could argue that's the greatest sequel. And they. By the way, they get started till. Till Adrian wakes up from the coma and Mickey goes, what are we waiting for? That. That movie doesn't start. So then. Then there's only 20 minutes. So.
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Matt Leinart
Oh, good to go back. That's a good. That's a good list, dude.
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Doug Ellin
We got it.
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Jerry Ferrara
We got it.
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Matt Leinart
We're all over the place.
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Doug Ellin
That's good.
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Jerry Ferrara
I was very loud throughout all that. Sorry if it was your headphones. I just was fired up. And I'm curious to hear you guys out there push back on best sequels of all. Give us yours. I. Honorable mention. Terminator 2 could have been up there.
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Matt Leinart
I had Terminator 2 for 2 for Judgment Day for sure.
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Jerry Ferrara
I think when you're a kid, you don't appreciate Rocky 1 or Back to the Future 1 as much as you do as an adult.
- [46:23]
Matt Leinart
I mean, Rocky was in the 70s, dude.
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Jerry Ferrara
Hey, look, shout outs to Rocky, too. You could argue that's the greatest sequel. And by the way, Till Adrian wakes up from the coma and Mickey goes, what are we waiting for? That. That movie doesn't start. So then. Then there's only 20 minutes, so.
- [46:41]
Matt Leinart
Oh, good to go back.
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Doug Ellin
That's a good.
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Matt Leinart
That's a good list, dude. We got it. We got it. We're all over the place.
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Jerry Ferrara
That's good. I was very loud around all that. Sorry. Even with your headphones. This was fired up. And I'm curious to hear you guys out there push back on best sequels of all. Give us. I had honorable mention. Terminator 2 could have been up there.
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Matt Leinart
I had Terminator 2 for 2 for Judgment Day for sure.
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Jerry Ferrara
And you know what? I almost put. But I just. I have only seen it five times, so I can't be. My Toy Story 3, which Quentin Tarantino said is, like, script wise, that's the best script for any movie ever. I think he has it up there. Is, like, the best screenplay of all, I think.
- [47:18]
Matt Leinart
Toy Story. Is that the. Is that the first animated movie? Not the first, but it's like one of the most. The most. The highest grossing animated movie of all time. Or is that Lion King?
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Jerry Ferrara
I think at the time. Toy Story on the top of the
- [47:31]
Matt Leinart
list of detail for that.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yes. Yeah, they are. I mean, it's crushed. And Toy Story 5 is coming out June 19th. You're going to take the boys to that one, I'm sure. All right. Big thank you to Doug Allen for joining us. Matt. We've never really previewed a guest, but I have pretty solid confirmation on our guest next week. I feel confident enough to put it out there.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, let's go.
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Jerry Ferrara
Let's just say the lights go out, baby. Lights out. Sean Merriman. I'm fired up to talk to him. Also, cool Entourage cameo. Also, I think someone uniquely qualified to talk about the football player doing other sports or fighting Logan.
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Matt Leinart
Oh, they're gonna. There's gonna be a lot of fight talk next week.
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Jerry Ferrara
A lot of fight talk. So stick with us till next week for Sean Merriman. And until then, we'll see you soon.