Jerry’s Life-Changing News, Fantasy Draft Season & Newfound Giants Enthusiasm

Summary

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Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara

Episode: Jerry’s Life-Changing News, Fantasy Draft Season & Newfound Giants Enthusiasm
Date: August 21, 2025

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of "Throwbacks" marks a milestone for co-host Jerry Ferrara, who shares major personal news with Matt Leinart and wife Bri: the Ferrara family is expecting baby number three. The trio dives into the emotional and practical side of expanding a family later in life, the detailed negotiations leading up to the decision, and how careers, sports fandom, and personal routines (hello, golf!) play into it all. The episode covers everything from fatherhood anxieties and fantasy football strategies, to the revived optimism around the New York Giants’ upcoming season. The show remains witty, candid, and heavily relatable, capturing how sports culture intersects with modern adulthood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking the Big News: Baby #3 on the Way

• [00:04 - 04:00]
  • Jerry announces: Baby #3 is due in February, attributing the decision partly to Matt's encouragement. “Partly because of his advice, I got talked into baby number three… I blame you a lot because you’re like, ah, three kids isn’t that much. It’s easy.” (Jerry, 01:29)
  • Matt shares his experience about being a few years ahead on the parenting journey, echoing Jerry’s anxieties and doubts but assuring him the leap is worth it.
  • Humorous moment: Jerry jokes about being 60 when his newborn goes to prom and needing to be “wheeled out” as the dad.
    “Have her back before nine. I'm not going to scare nobody.” (Jerry, 02:55)

2. The Super Bowl Dilemma and Fatherhood Priorities

• [03:30 - 05:00; 35:40 - 41:00]
  • Discussion about Super Bowl week possibly coinciding with the due date: Is Jerry allowed to leave days after the baby’s born for work in Santa Clara?
  • Open debate on finding guest hosts for their Super Bowl events if Jerry can't make it.
  • Bri acknowledges she’s supportive and flexible, but they hash out realistic cutoffs and which priorities take precedence in a growing family.
  • Memorable moment: “If the baby's born, say, Friday morning, maybe 3:00am ... and we have big shows Saturday— is that it?” (Matt, 38:00)
  • Concluding wisdom: They decide to “just let it go” and trust it’ll all work out, stressing the need to adapt and support one another.

3. Family Negotiations: To Have or Not to Have a Third Child

• [21:20 - 29:00]
  • Jerry and Bri recount the three-year negotiation period, exposing candid fears and hesitations.
  • Bri on maternal instincts: “I just don't feel done like having babies. ... As a woman and as a mother, I feel it internally that I'm meant to have another child.” (Bri, 22:29 & 25:09)
  • Matt relates, sharing how his wife's similar feelings convinced him, emphasizing it's a “different internal sense.”
  • They humorously dissect tactics: Bri DMing heartwarming “three kids” Instagram reels to Jerry late at night to sway him, and how mutual doubts were ultimately resolved by envisioning a bigger family down the road.

4. Fantasy Football Fever: Strategies, Woes and Old-school Camaraderie

• [05:08 - 17:30]
  • Matt’s deep dive: “I’ve done 50 mocks the past six days.” (Matt, 05:15)
  • Jerry shares recent auction draft misadventures, including trusting a virtual stranger with his picks while flying.
  • Both reminisce about the “in-person draft” camaraderie and debate the merits of auction vs. snake drafts.
  • Classic quote: “You will… find Wayne Gallman if you want to win your league by week 10.” (Jerry, 16:49)
  • Discussion of trade etiquette, waiver wire glory, and the thrill/pain of fantasy outcomes (“My worst fantasy start was starting Arian Foster… He didn’t play one carry in the Super Bowl,” Jerry, 16:00).

5. Golf as Marital Currency

• [29:26 - 35:24]
  • Bri reveals her negotiation move: supporting a third child in exchange for “losing Jerry to golf.”
  • Jerry details his elaborate routines to maximize “golf mood” at home—doing chores, dressing the boys, buttering up Bri before he heads out.
  • Matt weighs in with his own travels for golf and the “negotiations” athletes and parents make for time-consuming hobbies.
  • Highlight: Bri notes how Jerry’s mood directly correlates to his golf game (“Your golf mood has changed the last few times you’ve gone golfing. My golf game is in shambles.”, Bri & Jerry, 35:17-35:20).

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6. New York Giants Optimism & NFL Insight

• [46:13 - 56:33]
  • Jerry shares newfound Giants enthusiasm, keyed by preseason success and rookie Jackson Dart’s performance.
  • Matt tempers expectations but validates that improved QB play and locker-room energy create real momentum: “There’s a pulse in the locker room and in the building… It’s momentum. It’s energy.” (Matt, 49:38)
  • Comparison to acting world: Jerry draws parallels between competitive camaraderie on sports teams and ensemble casts—high vibes lead to better individual and collective performance.
  • They debate Daniel Jones’s legacy, Brian Daboll’s future, and the cycle of hope/despair that is Giants fandom.
  • Matt’s inside perspective on rookie development and the importance of sitting and learning QB’s, using examples from his own career.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On later-life parenting:
  “Age is just a number, man. It’s about how you feel.” (Matt, 02:59)

• Negotiating more kids:
  “I just don’t feel done like having babies… It’s a deeper desire.” (Bri, 25:09)

• Fantasy football realities:
  “The camaraderie was like half the battle, wasn’t it?” (Jerry, 11:49)
  “I have things I would fix about fantasy.” (Jerry, 17:35)

• Golf mood described:
  “When are you golfing? Or like more importantly, where? Because he gets invited to like the craziest places.” (Bri, 31:41)

• Parenthood and big family vision:
  “At the end of it, like, I looked at our kids, and our oldest was like, all about. I’m like, you know what? When I’m long gone, there will be three of them together.” (Jerry, 49:09)

• Giants hopefulness:
  “I’m buying the vibes. I’m buying the aura.” (Jerry, 56:33)

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:04–04:00 | Jerry’s big baby announcement and comic fatherhood worries | | 05:08–07:39 | Fantasy football nerves, draft prep, and league formats | | 09:29–11:49 | Auction draft strategy, rookie gambles, importance of camaraderie | | 21:20–25:26 | The honest family negotiations: deciding to have a third child | | 29:26–35:24 | The “golf negotiations” between Jerry and Bri; golf mood in the household | | 35:40–41:12 | Super Bowl vs. Baby: hashing out priorities and logistics with Bri | | 46:13–51:23 | New York Giants preseason optimism and the emotional rollercoaster of fandom | | 51:23–56:33 | Daniel Jones, Brian Daboll, rookie QB development, and the future of the Giants |

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains a casual, humorous, and confessional tone—equal parts sports banter and real-life commiseration. Jerry’s neurotic but lovable Brooklyn energy plays off Matt’s chill, football-dad wisdom, with Bri adding heartfelt and pragmatic balance. Their camaraderie grounds the show’s broader reflections on family, fandom, and friendship.

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Recommended For:
Anyone who juggles sports, work, family, and the anxieties of adulthood; fans of fantasy football, new dads, or New York Giants diehards seeking a little preseason hope.

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Transcript

[Jerry]

I have the news. We announced. Yes. Last week. We're gonna break some news.

[Bri]

Matt, I have to thank you, but.

[Matt]

I said, jerry, you're never gonna regret it. Sometimes you gotta throw in the towel. You just gotta throw in the towel.

[Bri]

This is like three years of negotiations.

[Jerry]

I'm fully like, this is gonna change the dynamics.

[Bri]

You are too scared to allow yourself to be excited about it.

[Jerry]

If you just let me go, like, ugh, I'll be all right. I just need to freak out. All right, here we are. Throwbacks in the flesh. Maddie, we're back in person. Good to see you, bro. You didn't think this was gonna happen?

[Matt]

Every time it happens, I'm always like, it's happening. Well, can we do it more?

[Jerry]

Couple of things to unpack here. Number one, it wasn't just me coming. My wife, who. I love my wife. My wife, she sometimes. And I have a work trip that's up to her fun standards. She's like, oh, I'll jump on that one. Me and the kids are coming to LA with you. Because she lived out in la, obviously, for a bunch of years. So me and the boys came and I have the news. We announced. Yes. Last week. We're going to break some news.

[Matt]

Yes. It was big on throwbacks. There's a lot of. There was a lot of news last week in the podcast world. None bigger than what you're about to announce here on throwbacks, which is. What is it?

[Jerry]

Partly because of his advice, I got talked into baby number three for the untitled Jerry Bree project is happening, due date February. I blame you a lot because you're like, ah, three. Three kids isn't that much. It's easy to be.

[Matt]

I'm actually very. I'm actually very responsible because, one, I talked you off a ledge for about the last nine months.

[Jerry]

I'm not necessarily off, but, yeah, sure, I. I've.

[Matt]

I've taken you back from the ledge a little bit because I live this. I'm, like, tracking, like, a year ahead of you and all this. So it's like I had the same worries, the same skit, the same doubts, the same worries, the same. Like, I'm hesitant. Like, I love our life now, all these things, and it's been the greatest thing ever. It truly is a blessing. It's fun. It's still. Everything is the same. You just got to keep going.

[Jerry]

But.

[Matt]

But I'm so happy for you guys, man. I know it was a long, tough. It's hard. It's hard as we get older in our age, you know, yeah.

[Jerry]

45. Going to be 46 when this kid's born. And in honor, 50.

[Matt]

You're going to be.

[Jerry]

Well, that's what I'm saying.

[Matt]

You're going to be like, almost like you're going to be like 60 when your kid's like a freshman in high school, bro.

[Jerry]

Yeah. Think about. I'll be like, think about when. Even if it's like a little girl, when that little girl grows up to go to like prom, right? She'll be like 15. It's going to be like, hey, someone go wheel dad out. They have to come.

[Matt]

That's how I feel sometimes.

[Jerry]

Yeah, you're still young.

[Matt]

I'm like three years younger.

[Jerry]

Have her back before nine. I'm not going to scare nobody.

[Matt]

Age is just ages. Age is a number, man. It's just, it's about how you feel.

[Jerry]

It is a number. But I also thought, being that my wife is here and in honor of the good news, I think we have to hash something out because what's that? Due dates in February. There's something else that happens in February. We usually have a. We had a big presence there last year, the super bowl. So. Which brings up a great debate of even, like, players in the past. I know we were talking with Van Jefferson, like, famously, his baby was born, the confetti came down. He's like, I'm out. Obviously not the same circumstances, but.

[Matt]

Well, like, at what point. At what point do you. At what point, if the baby's not like, at what point are you allowed to leave to go to the super bowl to work?

[Jerry]

Well, we're going to ask. And look, she's pretty cool, but I figured the super bowl is important for us. We had a good footprint fanatics party last year. I think throwbacks needs to be. This is a business.

[Matt]

Now, what's more important, the super bowl throwbacks or leaving your newborn child and your wife like a day or two after your baby's born?

[Jerry]

See, this is where my mind goes, though. This is the family business.

[Matt]

I think you got to do it. I think you got. If the baby's before the super bowl.

[Jerry]

You got to go, well, here's some fun stuff to throw out on social and again at throwback show on all the social platforms. So, guys, girls out there, if you had to be at the super bowl for so or some work event, whatever it is, how comfortable are you leaving after your baby's born? Is question number one. And then number two, if you had to call in a guest host last minute, like, if you're gonna Be live on the fanatics red carpet again or at athletes first, whatever we're gonna be doing at the Super Bowl. And my little baby is not born yet. You got to get a guest host, bro. Means you need a, you need a backup. A backup QB who could come in and light it up as a quarterback.

[Matt]

I don't worry about that. Hasn't happened seven months from now.

[Jerry]

Okay, well as a day to day, week to week guy, as a paranoid Italian New Yorker, I think about anything that could happen six months from now that probably won't. That's what I'm thinking.

[Matt]

We need to, we need to, we need to calm you down. We need to get you some supplements or something to take the edge off.

[Jerry]

Have you segueing out of that? Have you started to get your fantasy football nerves yet? Like what. When does liner. Because I know you're nine.

[Matt]

Oh, I've done, I've done 50 mocking past six days. Yeah.

[Jerry]

How. How are they anything surprising?

[Matt]

Well, the only problem is I know my draft order on my big league already because we did a, we did a full thing out of a hat a couple weeks ago. That draft is in a six.

[Jerry]

So you're middle 12 or 10?

[Matt]

10. Um, I like 10. I'm in a 12 man league too, or 12 team league. Um, I'm six and this is our big, this is our big league. So this is the one I care about the most. So I've done every mock picking sixth and it comes out to a lot of the same type of players you're going to get. This draft is these guys are pretty legit. Everyone drafts pretty to the cuff. Like there's a couple reaches every once in a while but everyone drafts pretty like pretty like on top of like best available or like kind of their strategy. So there's no like holy. Why did you like there's one or two. So like I kind of know where I'm gonna go at six. I've been telling my partner, I'm like we're gonna get, we're gonna get either like Jameer Gibbs who's going four, or we're gonna get CD Lamb or we're gonna get like a Justin Jefferson. Because the first three have been like Bichon Barkley and Jamar Chase. And then anything after that it's kind of like those three or four players like Derek, Derek Henry's been kind of high. So like we're going to get one of the top receivers or we'll get like a Jamir Gibbs if that's what we want. So Like, I'm kind of just playing off of basically. So I've done probably 50 of those, dude. And I'm in four other leagues too, so we won't even go there.

[Jerry]

Well, no, we're going to. I think it's time we have the fantasy conversation because I. We talked about it last year in the show. Like, I wanted to get away from it a little bit because I really, I live in a betting state and I enjoy betting more than fantasy at this point because it's just a little more control. But I can't sell you on an auction draft. Right? You're just like, snake draft. Like, what is it? Some people get. So I was like that for years. Like, oh, auction draft. I don't want to do that. It's so much better.

[Matt]

I just. I don't know. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, dude. I'm in five leagues. Like, I don't want to.

[Jerry]

I don't.

[Matt]

I don't need a six.

[Jerry]

Still get the enjoyment out.

[Matt]

I love it. But you're a, you're a fantasy hater. I love, I love. I only draft in person on one. All the other ones are, are just online, like, whatever. But we have group chats on. On all of them. I still, I still get a group chat. I still get. I still get like a high off my fancy drafts. I love that.

[Jerry]

I'm gonna tell you in a second why I'm mad that you made this big fantasy pitch first. We're gonna, we're gonna talk our all time adventures driven by Nissan. Because it factors into the fantasy thing. Okay. In the 2025 Nissan Pathfinder, Rock Creek adventure ready and free from new tariffs. Because, Matt, I had an all time adventure.

[Matt]

What is it?

[Jerry]

Well, because of your big pitch of why fantasy still awesome, and you tried to talk me off the fantasy ledge, I joined another league. I went into a new league with some writer friends, some. Some Hollywood types. Right. Good group chat. Said yes to the draft time. Didn't really pay attention to when it wasn't. It was exactly when my flight was. Yeah. So I joined this new league. I talked a bunch of trash, and now I can't be at the draft. You were my emergency contact, Matt. Can you draft for me? And you were like, no, Said no.

[Matt]

Yeah, because you don't want me to draft an auction league for you because I wouldn't know what to do.

[Jerry]

Well, all I know, I could have.

[Matt]

Said yeah and then Butch botched the whole thing.

[Jerry]

All I know is I did find someone who I Went through my emergency contact list of people I would want to draft fantasy for me, knowing I was going to be on a plane, not trusting the WI Fi. Everyone said no. My nephew had football camp. My best friend said, no, I don't want to do that. Everyone said no. And I got connected with someone that I've never met before, a buddy of mine's colleague, and was like, he'll draft for you. This guy knows what he's doing. We had four meetings and, you know, I summed up fantasy too. Let me just tell you. It was all, okay, these are like the five guys I like. These are the five guys I'm okay with. And here are the five guys. Please, by any means necessary, do not draft, please. And then that was it. I went on the flight with my kids. Traveling with four kids, isn't it three kids? Two kids is an adventure.

[Matt]

Yes. You just went from four to three to two because that's.

[Jerry]

I have. I'm like the Brady Bunch now. And I have to say it was pretty enjoyable to be on a flight with good Wi Fi. He was drafting for me, but I was.

[Matt]

You were on it.

[Jerry]

We were chatting every pick out. And I want to unveil my team to you.

[Matt]

Let me hear. Let me hear it.

[Jerry]

All right. Auction 10 team ready.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Jerry]

Jordan Love and Kyler.

[Matt]

Okay. Oof. Oof. That's fine. You obviously didn't spend a ton of.

[Jerry]

Money on your quarterback, Chase Brown.

[Matt]

I think Chase Brown's legit.

[Jerry]

All right. We. We whiffed a little bit on running back too. Okay. We did not get the guy that we wanted. So running back two might be Tyrone Tracy on the Giants where I think we won.

[Matt]

Who were you going after?

[Jerry]

There was some names. We were going to try to sneak Kyron Williams, but he went for a big number. That's the thing with auction. Like, some of these guys go for giant numbers. But then we went, Malik neighbors.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

And then we went. I'm on.

[Matt]

You got two two yard machines.

[Jerry]

This is why I wanted to pitch you. This is my real all time adventure. I'm a firm believer that two of the offensive rookies in every draft, regardless of what round, two of them are going to kind of pop. I drafted all of them. Not the big. I didn't draft Genti. Like I'm saying, I went with the reach like Igbuka. Am I saying that right? Saying it right?

[Matt]

Yeah. Beast.

[Jerry]

I got Tet. I got. I got Tet.

[Matt]

Was a top 10 pick, but yeah, okay.

[Jerry]

But he could easily.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

I mean, look at Marvin Harrison last year. He's in Carolina. You know, I got golden. I got golden. So I basically have four rookies. I know two of them. Gotta pop two of them.

[Matt]

Tmac as you call him, not tmac.

[Jerry]

Is that the. Yeah, he doesn't like Ted as he said that.

[Matt]

I'm not sure Ted is even a nickname. I think you just gave that to him. But he go, but T Mac. He's by the way people have been calling him. He's an Orange county kid.

[Jerry]

So I didn't mean to offend him.

[Matt]

He'll be the number one there off the get go. So that one has the most upside, I think for sure. And then Abuka. I love anybody in the Bucks team just because Baker throws his all over the. Mike Evans is still doing his thing, but like Godwin's out for. Godwin's hurt I think for a bit. But like a Booka will be.

[Jerry]

He might be number two, right?

[Matt]

He's gonna be number two the start of the season.

[Jerry]

I really wish that with fantasy and I still have a soft spot for it a little bit, but I just really miss the in person stuff, man. And I know it's so easy to draft on your phone or your computer, but like to me that's. The camaraderie was like half the battle, wasn't it? I used to watch games against the dude. I was also head to head. Why are we still doing head to head? I don't get home field advantage. Why are we still now I've been doing this for 30 years. Why are we still doing head to head?

[Matt]

What? How.

[Jerry]

How often I have the second most points in the league and I missed the playoffs because I lost to the highest point. So you go for four weeks in a row.

[Matt]

You go by based on points or.

[Jerry]

No, I don't. We do head to head. But I'm like, wow, I have a really tough schedule this year. It's. I don't know, I just think it's. I loved it in the beginning. I think the head to head stuff is real.

[Matt]

You just got to appreciate it for what it is, man. It's just. It's just fantasy football. It's fun, keeps you in tune with the game.

[Jerry]

I can't. I can't sway you into an auction league at least.

[Matt]

No, no, it's not that I don't like it. It's just I've never done it. So I didn't want to draft for you. But yeah, I have buddies that ask me all the time. I'm just. I'm Already in five leagues. Like, I can't afford. I can't. I have no time to do anything else.

[Jerry]

Now, are you a drafter that, like, you'll take one guy in all five teams or do you find yourself in that awesome situation where like, all right, I need Genti here, but he's also going to kill me here.

[Matt]

I'm not that. I'm more. I am a big. I am a big, like, wherever, like the players fall to me. Where I'm at. I kind of like best on the board. Kind of. Yeah. Like, obviously I always, like, I always target. Like, I love getting Josh Allen, dude. Like, he's the number one guy. But like, if he, if he's there at the end of a second round on a turn, like, I would get him late second round or like early third or like, I love Lamar too. I've been a big.

[Jerry]

So you like having one in the top?

[Matt]

There's Guy. No, but I've also. But then like, we had Jaden Daniels last year. No one knew, but I was like, I told my partner.

[Jerry]

You knew.

[Matt]

Well, we had, we had. Who do we have? Maybe Herbert, who's been, you know, up.

[Jerry]

And down better than Joe Burrow.

[Matt]

But then we were like, we got Jane Downs. I think, dude, I think this guy, we might start by like week five. Like, he's going to be a star. And sure enough, we had him and we wrote him for a long time. But yeah, I mean, I think I'm just more of like, I'll spread it out, but it depends on where I pick, if I pick in the same spot. I mean. Yeah, like, there's. There's always guys. There's always two or three that like, man, I got like George Kittle in three leagues. Or like, like Evan Ingram, I love. Like, he's a late round, 10th round pick who, like can still get you 80 catches. So like in all my mocks, I've been doing other ones too. It's like I'm kind of targeting. I kind of get the same type of guys, you know what I mean?

[Jerry]

My boy, Charlie o', Connell, season two, the Bachelor, bro. Yeah, he is one of the best drafters back in the day because his whole thing was he. As soon as he. We could not draft till after Madden came out. And then he would grind Madden for five days and he'd write down all the guys with that. He was like Al Davis, he drafted Jamal Charles three years in a row because he was 99 overall. Speed. Darren McFadden, he took all the Madden 99 overall speed, dudes, a running back. And that's who he dra. By the way. He won like that. It was like Chris Johnson, Jamal Charles. He had all the speed.

[Matt]

Those guys were fantasy just.

[Jerry]

They were. But he was taking them early when people typically like they hadn't popped yet. It wasn't the 2000 yard season.

[Matt]

Name a random fantasy player. Yeah, like in the last 10 years. Not recent, like 10, 15 years. That one. You fantasy league?

[Jerry]

Yep. Oh God, he's so random. I don't even know if I can think of it. Believe it or not, it was a Giants third string running back who became the starter at the end. What was his name? It's gonna take me a second. He 100% wanted me to leave.

[Matt]

David Johnson. Remember David Johnson?

[Jerry]

Of course I remember.

[Matt]

For the Cardinals like two years of like. Because that's when I started playing. I think I was like. He won me like a league outright.

[Jerry]

Do you want to know my worst? I know my. I remember my worst fantasy start of all time. I'm a big. Like I used to be anyway. Like you don't know about this guy. I almost. I was playing Charlie O' Connell in a championship game 10, 15 years ago and Arian Foster hadn't popped yet. No, no, he was a no. 1.

[Matt]

I played with him. He was a beast.

[Jerry]

I think he had. I think he finally got like 10 carries in a game the week or two before and he had like 10 for like 80 and a touchdown. I start. He didn't play one carry in the, in the fantasy Super Bowl. One carry. And then next year he went on to become Arian Foster, like first round pick freak. You know who did work for me to. Travis Henry did some work for me, believe it or not.

[Matt]

Travis Henry.

[Jerry]

Travis Henry running back.

[Matt]

Oh God, that's old dude.

[Jerry]

I've been playing this for a long time. So who's your worst one, would you say?

[Matt]

Oh no, I'm just thinking like David Johnson. I remember my worst. I mean I, I've.

[Jerry]

Who was that dude on the Giants? He's not even on the team anymore. Wayne. Gman.

[Matt]

Gman?

[Jerry]

You didn't know? Wait, you weren't gonna pull that? Never.

[Matt]

No, I know the name though.

[Jerry]

Never.

[Matt]

If you said Wayne, I would have said Gman.

[Jerry]

He won me a fantasy league. And that's what I mean about fantasy and why it's ridiculous. You will. If you want to win your league by week 10, you'll have to find Wayne.

[Matt]

That's the beauty of the waiver wire. You just find the pickups when did.

[Jerry]

We lose trading though? Meaning, like, when did it become like trading is I want your best running back and here's my third string running back and my second or third best receiver that you're going to try to.

[Matt]

Convince me is I also, I do all those trades like are these, are these fair trades? Right. You do it in like an evaluator thing.

[Jerry]

I'm.

[Matt]

I'm just more like how is it going to benefit an in my league? Which is not the way to do it. But that's kind of what I do. So that part I the trades in my big league, we don't even trade. Like we try, but it's like it gets vetoed all the time. And that's the only part I hate about it.

[Jerry]

I have things I would fix about fantasy. Just saying. If you love Wendy's Classic Frosty Flavors, we have some big news for you. There are all new Frosty Swirl and Frosty Fusion flavors. So it's the same creamy treat you've always loved now with the flavor refresh.

[Matt]

So what are these new flavors? Well, thanks for asking. There are a lot, so I'm just gonna list them. Okay. We've got the Frosty Swirls Strawberry Brownie batter and caramel. Then we've got the blended Frosty Fusions Caramel Crunch Oreo Brownie with swirled thick brownie batter sauce and crunchy Oreo cookie pieces and Pop Tart strawberry with a sweet strawberry sauce and chunks of crazy good pop Tarts pieces. Not to mention that, yes, you can still get your classic vanilla.

[Jerry]

Try them all to find your favorite. Are you going to be a Strawberry swirl girl? A caramel? I said Caramel Crazed Fanatic Brownie Batter, Buff Pop Tart Strawberry Fanatic Oreo Brownie Stand. Anyway, whatever flavor you're craving, odds are we've got a Frosty for it.

[Matt]

So clock in for sweet treat time with Wendy's all new Frosty flavors. A refresh on a classic. It's got to be Wendy's.

[Jerry]

It's that time of year again for many children across the country. School is back in session and school buses are on the road.

[Matt]

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[Jerry]

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[Matt]

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[Jerry]

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[Matt]

I'm on cloud nine for you guys.

[Jerry]

We are on the road to baby number three and my lovely wife Bri is here to join us. Matt's more excited about this.

[Matt]

We are breaking the Internet today, baby.

[Jerry]

In honor of Taylor and Travis. Episode we are.

[Matt]

This is way better. Are you kidding me? Look at. She's glowing. You're glowing.

[Bri]

Matt, I have to thank you.

[Jerry]

I'm part of this.

[Matt]

I will, I will pat myself on the back. I did have some. I did. We're on the same journey. Josie and I, we, we have our six month old. We've been talking about this. You know, you guys haven't do it just. No, it's never that easy. But I said, jerry, you're never gonna regret it. And you got two beautiful boys. Now your wife wants a third. I'm at down this path. Sometimes. Sometimes you gotta throw in the towel. You just gotta throw in the towel.

[Jerry]

Like now. I do think it's strange that like our due date for baby number three.

[Matt]

Yeah. Everything.

[Jerry]

Daughter's birthday. That's pretty strange. Just timing of how that.

[Bri]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Happen.

[Matt]

And here we are. You're. You're.

[Bri]

There we are.

[Jerry]

Listen, let's. We're gonna be honest because we're honest on this show. I was very scared and hesitant. Not because I love babies and I love kids and I love being a dad. I felt like I was, you know, hands full.

[Bri]

Like three years of negotiations.

[Jerry]

You. But he. Yeah.

[Matt]

But he finally gave.

[Bri]

Yeah. I never knew how hard to push.

[Jerry]

It right but then at some point you said, we're going.

[Bri]

And then I was like, it's now or never.

[Matt]

Like, well, let's, Let me ask you guys a question. Let's talk about negotiations. Since you just brought up negotiations, what kind of negotiations were going on in this process?

[Bri]

Yeah, Jerry, I'll let you start.

[Jerry]

Well, look, again, I was a little hesitant because, you know, my whole thing I used to say to Bri was like, are our hands not full? Like, do we have spare time? Like your video with Josie, which is a funny one, when you release that you were having a third that you guys like the best, go check it out on Instagram. They're like, we have life. All great. This is great. Let's go f shit up. Yeah, I believe that, like, you were kind of joking, but kind of. I'm fully, like, this is going to change the dynamics completely. But you'd said so you think of.

[Bri]

All, like the negative things first before you think of all the good things. And that's where I got you. Like, that's where I had to be.

[Jerry]

Well, ultimately too, you said something to me, like by year two, when we started talking about this, where you're like, I just don't feel done. I know you said, I just don't feel done like having babies. And I at first didn't understand what that meant. I'm like, what do you mean? We are done? And, and that. And you kind of turned, you turned our six year old against me a little bit. He would look at me. Jacob would go like, dad, come on, dad, one more.

[Bri]

He would just hear us talk about it, though. I didn't really.

[Matt]

I think it's a great question. And like, in all seriousness, because I remember Josie and I's negotiation was about a year and a half. So it was a long time. It was like. And I, and quite honestly. And I was like a hard no. And I was like. And it felt selfish, but for my reasons. It wasn't selfish, but it was still like, I just like, no, we're good, we're happy, we're in a great spot. All the positive things, right? Like, we're working all these things. And then she did say that she was like, and I think she broke down and she goes, I, I, you won't ever experience this or feel this. But as a woman and as a mother, I feel it internally that I'm meant to have another child. And when she, to your point, when she said that, I was like, I actually got goosebumps. I'm like, I'm like, damn. Like, how could you say, like, one. I'm. In my mind, I always knew we're gonna have another because I'm like, I'm not gonna do. My wife will. She'll regret it, and she'll hold that against me, and I'll feel guilty the rest of my life. And it was that. It was that phrase and that. What she said, I was like, you're right. I won't know. But I knew how much it meant to her, and it was just a little bit of me. Like, in our selfish world of, like, hey, we get to do this stuff. We are so just like, you guys.

[Jerry]

Your boys were a good.

[Matt]

But that was it. And Jerry had said. You kind of had said that too. So, like, what. What does that mean?

[Bri]

Like, did you guys do this thing where whenever you back. Like, whenever she would back off, then you would kind of be like, well, maybe we should, because that's what Jerry does to me.

[Jerry]

I would put the toe back in the water. I would not know.

[Matt]

I was. Dude, I was out.

[Jerry]

I wouldn't hear about baby over three for two weeks.

[Bri]

I would back off. And then all of a sudden, he'd be like, I like this name. And I look at him and be like, what?

[Jerry]

I don't know why. I don't know why I did that to you. That was kind of messed up, but I guess maybe deep down I was. I didn't want it to go away either.

[Bri]

You were too scared to allow yourself to be excited about it. Like, you didn't want to get there, and rightfully so. Like, you never know what's going to happen. You know, like, you could try. You could not get pregnant. Things happen. And we were very lucky. But you, like, that's just how you are in general.

[Matt]

What is it? Not to put you on the spot, like, what does it mean, like, as a woman to do that genuinely, like. Because it really hit me, like, it's like it just. You feel it in your bones and your body.

[Jerry]

You say you can explain.

[Bri]

How do you explain that? Yeah. Like, I'm like, it's not like I want a vacation, of course, or, like a bag or something. Like, this is the human deeper desire. And I think at any point, a woman has to grieve that whether she's going to have kids or not have kids.

[Jerry]

Right?

[Bri]

Like, you grieve that part of your life being over. But I just wasn't ready to do it. I mean, I could have got myself there if he. Like, truly, Truly. If I really thought it was gonna, like, Blow up our marriage or, like, I could have got myself there. Now he's like, what?

[Jerry]

He's like, you could have told me that around two and a half months.

[Matt]

Ago, three months, we had the same thing. I think she would have got to it, too, but it was just like, I just couldn't. I couldn't do that.

[Jerry]

No. In the end, for me, it was also like, I. After all, the fear of it goes away. It's like, it is nice to have a. A big crew, right? To be like this big traveling circus kind of. And then honestly, at the end of it, like, I looked at our kids, and our oldest was like, all about. I'm like, you know what? When I'm long gone, there will be three of them together. And I guess hopefully they all get along and they're. They're a tight knit, you know, sibling group. And I feel like in the end, when my time comes down the road, I'll feel a little bit better, but. All right, at least there's. There's three of them. Four. And, you know, it's going to be.

[Matt]

I think that was the hard part we were talking about. It's like, because I was the same way. I was like, you're so caught up in the now, in the moment. Like, now is great, Renee, But Josie would always be like, but think about how special it'll be when our kids are older and we have grandkids and there's this big family. We're like Christmases and all of these things. And I'm like, I don't really want to think about 20 years from now. You know what I mean? But, like, it does it. Like, you have to kind of sit back and like. And again.

[Bri]

Well, Jerry. Jerry's go to is like, I'm gonna be 95.

[Matt]

Well, I do. I do. Support that.

[Jerry]

Thank you.

[Matt]

Support that.

[Jerry]

I'm 45 years old. When the baby's born, I will be 46.

[Matt]

You are going to be the old ass dad and pick.

[Bri]

No, you were. By the way, there's women having babies at this age.

[Jerry]

Come on. No, I know. And I know I have to carry the child or birth the child, but.

[Bri]

Like, 45, there's pros and cons to it. You've lived a lot of life. Like, you have a lot to offer now. Not that you wouldn't have when you were younger, but you know what she.

[Jerry]

Did to, like, two things that were sort of sneaky. I don't know if Josie does this, and those of you listening, I don't know if in Your relationship, your wife or your husband does this. Like I would wake up at my normal time and there'd be like four or five middle of the night DMs on Instagram that she sends me forwarded that are all these couples that have like five kids and this is a look at our family. We just like let it go and all this like on the fence about having the third. Let us tell you greatest decision we ever made in our. All these Instagram clips. But then I would talk to a few parents of three. Most of them were like, hey look, the third kid just kind of fits in and it's all good. But then every now and then there's the one that's like, yo, three is no joke. And they had like a look of terror in their eyes. So that would always snap me back.

[Matt]

I think that the, the. We have a six month old daughter and our boys and we have an older son. So we have four technically. But the three, it, it's been easy because she's very easy. You guys got, we got a chance to. You guys got a chance to meet her. She's been easy and we have always been. Credit Josie. A roll, a roll with the punches. Go, go.

[Jerry]

You guys do have that, but the.

[Matt]

Liners have by the way, we love home time. We love, we love that. But like we, there's never like a let's not do it. Like let's just do. The boys are going to roll, the daughter's going to roll and we're going to make it.

[Jerry]

Not prisoner to the now.

[Matt]

You're just not prisoner to that. And if you do, it's just, that's, that's what can put a strain on a relationship. It could just put a strain on a lot of things. So for, for to your point, 3 has been really easy for us because we just have that mindset of like, we're not going to let the baby's time dictate everything that we do now. We're. Yeah, like again, it's a grind more.

[Bri]

Like that you'll get there, babe.

[Jerry]

I don't know if I can ever.

[Matt]

Get, but you got to just let it go.

[Jerry]

You got to.

[Matt]

Or else you're going to stress yourself out.

[Jerry]

I think it's time to like talk about something that I think we could work out here, the three of us. It's relevant to the podcast, it's relevant to our life. It's definitely relevant to you. I'm going there now. Do you want to preface what the meat and potatoes of this talk is about what's coming up in a certain date.

[Matt]

Well, before that.

[Bri]

Well, no, before that, because I sold my soul to golf to get a third baby. That's how this really happened.

[Jerry]

Tell everybody about golf.

[Bri]

But I was losing it anyways to golf.

[Jerry]

So tell everyone about. Tell Matt about golf mood. I don't think you've met this version of Jerry.

[Matt]

This is a perfect segue because. Hold on one second. I did get.

[Jerry]

Oh, you got a gift.

[Matt]

I got Jerry. I got Jerry new golf apparel because he did say the negotiations. Our friends. My friends at Travis. Matthew.

[Jerry]

What?

[Matt]

Hold on. They. Here, hold on.

[Bri]

Matt, I thought you were on my side here.

[Jerry]

Jerry. Congrats on baby number three. Here's. Here's some TM gear to keep your. You fresh.

[Matt]

And then.

[Jerry]

This is unfair what he's doing, though.

[Matt]

This really has nothing to do with the baby, but this was also a gift from us to you because this is for you. Aviator nation.

[Bri]

Oh, here.

[Matt]

Give that to your wife. Is a good west coast. And, like, oh, I love.

[Jerry]

Is that comfy for, like, pregnancy?

[Matt]

This will pro. This will pro. This will probably be post pregnancy, but it's. Put it away. And it's also kind of for me to continue to get you guys to move out to the west Coast. You know, just little gifts to make sure that you guys.

[Jerry]

You told me you were up. You. You. You had to, like, you have to convince me you love Manhattan Beach. And now. So we're moving to. Right baby number three. And we're moving back to California. A lot of change here.

[Matt]

Let's put this down. Okay. But got you some golf gear.

[Jerry]

That's sweet.

[Matt]

My boys over there. But let's talk golf really quick. The negotiations of golf, because your husband got me into golf, and Josie's a little bit like, I go, babe. I go, babe.

[Jerry]

It's like he went to Scotland to play.

[Matt]

I will say I went to Scotland.

[Jerry]

For the home, the birthplace of God.

[Matt]

I was like.

[Jerry]

He went. I asked Jerry.

[Matt]

I'm like, should I go? He goes, of course you go. I'm like. I asked Josie. Josie was like, this is. She's great. She's like, are you kidding me? You have to go. Like, you can't miss an opportunity.

[Bri]

Jerry gets so many golf nights.

[Matt]

He does.

[Jerry]

Is that my computer?

[Bri]

Like, that's not. Makes my head spin.

[Matt]

Like, he's way.

[Bri]

When he's like when he. I know when he's about to tell me about a tournament that he got.

[Jerry]

How does it go? How does it go? So what's golf mood?

[Bri]

Yeah, I Need to talk to you about something.

[Jerry]

I'm like, I make it sound important.

[Bri]

Where. When are you golfing? Or like more importantly, where. Because he gets invited to like the craziest places.

[Matt]

Yeah, but that's amazing.

[Bri]

It's amazing because I'll tag along for some of it.

[Jerry]

So through this podcast, I got that into golf and you got me to have a third, by the way. I feel like you won that trade.

[Matt]

In a big she for sure. Real quick, crazy golf. I got invited to Patrick Mahomes thing in Vegas.

[Jerry]

Patty Mahomes.

[Matt]

When was that? May. The baby was like eight weeks old. Baby. And Josie came. This is, this is talk about going just. No, no, no, listen. It was talk about like, just. And it's an easy flight for us, going with the flow. We got a nanny there that had babysat her best friend. So we had this. We went out that night with a nine week old with the call. Now granted, we ended up actually coming home pretty early because we were just over it. But like, we did the. We did the very nice dinner. We went out, had some drinks, like the bar, whatever, and then. And we left. We. The baby. I don't know, she might get mad. No, it was. But it was just going with the flow. The baby was nine weeks old.

[Jerry]

Is that really like, this is a little off for a golf tournament. Sports nerd. For a second though. When you quarterbacks get together, is it like a club? Like the quarterback club? Like, hey. Because, you know, that's a lot like, it's pretty much like you and Mahomes. It's almost like an unspoken.

[Matt]

Like, I never even met Mahomes. Like, boom, what's up?

[Jerry]

It's like instant.

[Matt]

There's just a respective.

[Jerry]

Because you kind of have that with actors. Like, you might not know the person personally. Oh, we do the same thing.

[Matt]

You know, there's for sure, like. And when you're in the same room, it's like you can go up to anyone and be like, oh, older, younger. For the most part. Some of the younger kids don't obviously as you get older. But like all the.

[Jerry]

Get out of here, old man.

[Matt]

Great. And it's like you just hang like, what's up? Oh, yeah. Like, you know, okay, this is golf negotiations.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Where are we on these? Or how are we feeling about the future of golf?

[Jerry]

Have I. How has my summer of golf been to this point, in your opinion? Like, have I abused our negotiations pretty mild?

[Bri]

Yeah, I would say you got more last summer.

[Jerry]

Well, just know in spite, there's like, there's a storm a coming. I. Oh, I know there's a store.

[Bri]

I know it's brewing.

[Jerry]

There's a golf storm a coming.

[Matt]

Listen, this is important because all the guys listening, they need advice because we talk about this all the time. Like, what do you tell your wife when you need to go golf?

[Jerry]

I know that's such a silly thing to. And that wasn't basing like, oh, should we have this third baby on? Can I golfer now? Because that's the most selfish thing in the world.

[Matt]

A little bit. A little bit.

[Jerry]

But like, I remember when our first kid was born, they like my friends, when Jacob was born, I was just getting back into golf. They're like, oh, over under three and a half rounds of golf this summer. I'm like, wait, I'm only gonna play golf three times this summer. That'll never happen. And I think I played like five. But it definitely is first baby.

[Bri]

And we lived in. We lived in Williamsburg.

[Jerry]

When you play six months a year, that's terrible.

[Bri]

Golf in, like, Brooklyn is a lot harder. I know. Because you have to drive way to the suburbs.

[Matt]

Yeah, I'm not a huge. Like, it's a six hour day and that doesn't.

[Bri]

He'll go to courses that are like an hour and a half away. I'm like, do you have to add three hours on to your already seven hour day? Like, where am I going for nine.

[Jerry]

Hours about golf mood.

[Bri]

Golf.

[Jerry]

What is it? Golf mood is.

[Matt]

I mean, apparently it's pretty bad.

[Jerry]

Tell.

[Bri]

No, no, no. It's amazing.

[Matt]

Oh, you're golf.

[Jerry]

What is. What is life like for you? Oh, yeah, we agree upon golf the night before.

[Bri]

It's ready. The kitchen's cleaned like he is.

[Jerry]

The boys are dressed.

[Bri]

How are you, honey? What are you doing today? Is there anything can help you with before I leave? Although you know what? Your golf game must be really bad right now because the golf mood has changed the last few times you've got golfing.

[Jerry]

My golf game is in shambles.

[Bri]

Right. You know what? I know that because your golf mood has not been nearly what it usually is.

[Matt]

All right, are you ready to. This is the.

[Jerry]

This is really why we wanted to have you on here, because.

[Bri]

Can't wait.

[Jerry]

This does relate to the show. It affects Matt, it affects Eddie, it affects Adam, Rich, Andrew. It affects a lot of people, including you.

[Bri]

What's up?

[Jerry]

In arguably the biggest way. Okay, so we have our due date. February 4th, and obviously 3rd. 3rd.

[Bri]

Not that it matters, but yeah, clearly it does.

[Jerry]

And obviously the big thing is you just want A happy, healthy baby. You, everyone, like, that's all that matters. So assuming that's going to happen.

[Bri]

Mm.

[Jerry]

The super bowl this year is what? February 9th, I believe is the Sunday. Last year we did our big fanatics red carpet live show. We'll get to that.

[Bri]

Okay.

[Jerry]

From you this year. And we have a new sponsor about to come on who I think is going to want to be a big part of our super bowl show that we're going to do.

[Matt]

Going. Jerry, you got this?

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Bri]

Spit it out.

[Jerry]

Due date, February 3rd. I. Technically, if we were not having a baby, I need to be in Santa Clara. Santa Clara is in. Just outside of San Francisco. Not easy to get to. When is it that February. Oh, I need to be. I would.

[Matt]

Which means the show, which is like.

[Jerry]

The night of the 7th.

[Bri]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jerry]

So it would be fly in the seventh. So I'd be like, super bowl is the eighth.

[Matt]

So. No, no, fly in the six.

[Jerry]

Super Bowl Sunday's the eighth. So fly in the sixth, show the seventh, fly right home.

[Bri]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Assuming you are on time. What it to you is the cutoff of, like, obviously, if you don't have the baby by, like, February 3rd or 4th.

[Bri]

I mean, if I have the baby, how much?

[Jerry]

Yeah. Like, what's the timeline we're thinking here? Because this happens with players all the time.

[Matt]

Just let her.

[Jerry]

I'm nervous.

[Matt]

Yeah, I know you're nervous. You're talking.

[Bri]

What do you think?

[Jerry]

I talk a lot when I get nervous, Eddie.

[Bri]

I mean, I. I would like to make it work for you because you. You.

[Jerry]

But also knowing that this is a big moment for our family, and I want.

[Bri]

I mean, I don't want to, like, push a baby out and then, like, you're on a plane.

[Jerry]

I agree. I agree. So, like.

[Bri]

But you. If you go in, do your stuff, get out, we can probably make it happen. But you do know some women go later.

[Jerry]

Later. Well, we just.

[Matt]

What happens. Okay.

[Bri]

But I actually. This is on your side. I've gone early with both the boys.

[Matt]

He's just beating around the bush way too much. If the baby was born.

[Bri]

There we go.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Bri]

You know, it would be so much better if he approached things this way.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Bri]

Like, he talks too much.

[Matt]

He does.

[Bri]

He does this with our kids. Me, like, I'm like, just get to it.

[Matt]

If the baby was born, say, Friday morning, maybe 3:00am okay. And he. He has. We have big shows Saturday, so he has to be on a flight. Maybe a red eye Friday night. So that's a day. Is that it?

[Jerry]

Does he Just puts you on the spot. He likes to put people on the spot.

[Matt]

But that. But that, to me, before you came, I was like, that's obviously the very last you could even get out, because if it's after, you just can't go. But the baby's here. All your family's there. You have. All your help is there.

[Bri]

And I feel comfortable with how the. I'm honestly more worried about, like, the boys being taken care of than myself and the baby.

[Jerry]

Well, you.

[Matt]

But.

[Jerry]

Yeah, but.

[Matt]

Yeah, but you got family. You can make it happen. We got six months.

[Jerry]

He's nervous because we will have to get a guest host in there, by the way.

[Matt]

I'm not nervous because I know it's all gonna work out.

[Jerry]

Right?

[Matt]

It's all gonna work out.

[Bri]

But guest host could be fun.

[Jerry]

He won.

[Bri]

I. Just kidding.

[Jerry]

Well, we're gonna start auditioning guest hosts Friday morning.

[Matt]

Dude, I got you, bro. I got you that.

[Jerry]

Actually, I don't think Friday morning. I don't think that's.

[Matt]

Friday would be tough.

[Jerry]

I might have.

[Bri]

I think you'll make it. I think you'll make it.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Bri]

I'm confident that you'll make it.

[Matt]

I think so, too.

[Bri]

Yeah.

[Matt]

By the way. Amazing. It's all going to work out.

[Bri]

It'll work out well. And if it doesn't, Well, I want.

[Jerry]

I wanted to take this moment to just say publicly, does Jerry make the Super Bowl? I was going to go a different route.

[Matt]

Guys, guys, should we start a bet? What should we do? What should he go? What's the cutoff? We gotta. We gotta ask the.

[Jerry]

I think that Friday is crazy. That's my opinion. I'm just saying. I think that's wild. I don't think I'd want to go at that point, obviously. And I think that's a little.

[Matt]

That's true. He said that before. He's like, I don't know my opinion.

[Jerry]

I think that's like, all right, I get how important this is, and work stuff is important. It is also just, we have a great show going here, a great thing going, but I feel like that's like.

[Bri]

You know, you'll be tired.

[Jerry]

This happens with athletes.

[Bri]

If I have the baby overnight, you're gonna be a little tired.

[Jerry]

What if I was playing in the super bowl and you hadn't had the baby yet? You would just be like, go play in the super bowl, right?

[Bri]

Yeah. I mean, this. No, like, no offense, baby. It's our third baby. A pretty comfortable birthing.

[Jerry]

She would let me play in the super bowl. So if you wouldn't even be active playing quarterback. And yeah, you were having, like, there's your bait, your baby girl now. And it was Saturday before the super bowl, and your wife did not go into labor yet, and you're just waiting. You're going to the game.

[Bri]

I mean, has that, like, are there any, like, cool stories I've heard that.

[Matt]

Regular season games or whatever, guys have.

[Jerry]

Like, finished games and literally gone, like, right?

[Bri]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Or. Well, sometimes they're on the road, so they're not where their wife is.

[Matt]

I played with a teammate who. Her. His wife was giving birth during the game and in Arizona, and he just went straight to the hospital. Right. So he missed it, but he was there. I think super bowl is like.

[Jerry]

Well, I did want to publicly take this opportunity to say I was terrified, I was scared, I was unsure. A lot of positivity from you. Positivity from you. And we made the decision as a family. And I have to say, I am very excited and I'm happy that, you know, I know it's gonna be hard. If you give me the room to do my freak out thing, we're like, like, if you just let me go, like, I'll be all right. I'll be all right. I just need to freak out from time to time.

[Bri]

Yeah. Look, I'm glad you're coming to terms with it. We are probably gonna have another third crazy boy. Like, just know this is her hedging.

[Jerry]

And trying to put out into the girl vibes out to you. Right. And he's got three, too. So, like, I got.

[Matt]

I got 50p necklace thing. We got. I got girl vibes all over 50, 50 shots.

[Jerry]

So I publicly will say I was on the fence, but I am so happy now and I'm so ready to go. And if it is a girl, I am just going to enter training because I feel like I need to be more physically threatening to all the idiots that are out there. So I might go on steroids maybe. Would you care if I went on HGH steroids? Just another boy.

[Bri]

We'll just go for another one. We'll be that. Well, I'm saying if it's a girl, it's a girl.

[Jerry]

I want to be, like, jacked up. So when they see me because Matt, you know, he got a little easy. He's like six five. I feel like at my size, I just need to jack up. So if anyone sees me, they probably think I do jiu jitsu or I'm like a UFC fighter.

[Matt]

Could get the cauliflower ears in my Marriage. I'm the non confrontational one. And my wife would be like, that.

[Jerry]

Would be right up.

[Matt]

She's like, can you. I'm like if I had to. She's like, would you even. I'm like of course I would do something. But like I don't like any. Anything fighting like no, like, hey, none of that.

[Jerry]

I feel like your little girl is going to be the most well protected little girl in the south. But she's got three older brothers of various ages. By the time she's like eight, she'll have a 26 year old brother. She'll have like a 12 year old brother and a 10 year old. It's just. I dare you to talk trash to, to your little girl. It's over for you. It's a wrap. So congratulations honey. I love you.

[Matt]

So, so excited for you guys.

[Jerry]

We reunited on the pod. It's been a while since we've done a pod together so.

[Bri]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Bad for business. For life if you don't remember. And when was that?

[Bri]

2012.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

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[Matt]

Dude, she's so great, man.

[Jerry]

All your fault, man. It's all your fault.

[Matt]

Your golf game's gonna pick back up, buddy.

[Jerry]

I know we we briefly touched upon it last week that preseason doesn't mean anything. I mean, stuff for the players and the reps and all that. Like, for sure, you can't really tell anything by season. And I don't want to bog you down with Giant stuff, but I feel.

[Matt]

Like you gotta bog me down.

[Jerry]

Well, this might be as good as it gets this year for them, right they are two and oh. In the, in preseason and they have looked freaking phenomenal and Jackson Dart looks phenomenal.

[Matt]

I think what, I think what it is is you got, you got Russell.

[Jerry]

Wilson who's throws an 80 yard.

[Matt]

You have, you have. You're gonna have good quarterback play which unfortunately you haven't had in the last, however, since Eli and.

[Jerry]

Yeah. And in the last few years that you. I don't even really count.

[Matt]

Yeah. So like, you just. There's going to be a consistency of that position and then you have the future. And the future is the kid's a stud and with the right coaching, all, all, all things point to them going this way instead of kind of just like, what are we doing?

[Jerry]

So does this matter though, as a Giants fan. Right. Again, like, I'm realistic and I know first of all they're in a horrendous division to be good in. Like, the Eagles are great. Commanders are now great. I think the Cowboys are going tough. Be better Dax there. So they, they haven't beat the Cowboys in like 12 years. And I just. But the, it's been so depressing. And the offense, there's never been big plays. There's not players to get excited about. And now there finally is. Can you ride off the vibes even of the preseason? Like, the skill may ultimately come back around. They may win five or six games, but I feel like these vibes could propel you at least to a good start.

[Matt]

You have a more talented. I mean, you got to remember in the NFL, it, it's. There's so much parity. Man, every team is really good. Right. Even, even like your worst team is still competitive in damn near every game that you, maybe you win, but you lose by a couple touchdowns, which in the NFL is a blowout kind of. But like, yeah, like everyone is paid, everyone's professional, everyone's very good. So just because on paper you're more talented or like Philly, I mean, feels a very good team doesn't necessarily mean or equate to wins. So something to your point, if you have, you have improvement in the most important positions, you have great leadership in the locker room or you have guys and again, I. We're speculating. Who knows. And then you have a young star in Jackson Dart that everyone's just fired up about. There's just there, there. There's a pulse in the, in the locker room and in the building that's probably different from the past. And what you're saying is, does that carry you? Yeah, sure does carry you. It's like, in anything. It's like. It's momentum. It's. It's energy. It gets guys going a little bit more. They want to come to work. Then all of a sudden, you start the season. I mean, look, the Giants could be the commanders anytime. The Giants could beat the Cowboys. Like. Like, it's so. It's. It's like this, man. Like, when you're. You just go out there and play good football. So, like. And then all of a sudden, you start winning some of those games, then. Then you start to really believe. So, like, yeah, absolutely. Now it is preseason. You can't put a ton of stock into it. I think for the Giants, you're excited that you have a star in the future.

[Jerry]

Fun.

[Matt]

And it looks fun. You have a star at ride receiver from last year, Malik Neighbors, who I think I has even played, really, as preseason writer. But he's been hurt a little bit, but he's a star. Russ. Russ is solid.

[Jerry]

It was a great depot. We haven't had a deep ball since. Yeah, you're just like, vintage. Eli was the last.

[Matt]

Imagine, like, you scoring 7 to 10 points more a game, 14 points more game probably is what good quarterback play leads to. Dude, that's 9 and 8 to 11 and 5 or like, you know what I mean?

[Jerry]

Here's. Here's something else that I don't know again, because it's all professional athletes, but again, bringing it back to the acting world. I've been a part of some cast, whether it was Entourage or even, like, indie stuff where the vibes are high. Everybody wants to be there. Everyone kind of likes each other. Seems like the Giants do. But then you start also here, because, look, if I'm not in the scene, I don't really know what went on. But then you'll show up to work the next day and be like, oh, dude, Badge did this scene. You actually had the whole crew crying. That's how good. That's how good the scene was. And then you start to go, all.

[Matt]

Right, well, yeah, I better.

[Jerry]

My scene's coming up. I better kill it. Like, you start riding off. Not competitive. Like, I want to be better than you, but I. Whoa. Badge just did that. I better match it with a. I better just try just as hard. Because that word starts to get around, and I feel like that's a little bit what's happening. Like, guys are starting to play good, and I feel like other guys maybe. Look at that. Overthinking it. Why are you laughing at.

[Matt]

Because you're just a desperate New York Giants Fan you want desperately so bad for your team to be good again. Look, by the way, good start preseason. Good things to build around. Let's just. Let's just see you take it week to week, bro. That's what you do in football.

[Jerry]

Let's unwind this for one more second because now that we could finally say, I can't wait for Jones, at least in New York, we no longer ever have to discuss Daniel Jones again. Unless he balls out in Indiana. We can see.

[Matt]

I fought hard for Daniel Jones on throwbacks all year. I fought hard for.

[Jerry]

I hung around with him.

[Matt]

But Dable, he's about to go start for the Colts.

[Jerry]

I know. That's what I'm saying.

[Matt]

I probably ball out.

[Jerry]

He's going to light it up. You know he's going to light it up. You could see that headline. Daniel Jones stuns as the Giants realize he was good. But here, Dable is kind of on the hot seat. Like, not real, but, you know, two bad years in a row. Does this mean that we really undervalued that playoff season when Daniel Jones won a playoff game and out dueled Kirk Cousins? Does that mean Dable was. Is maybe way better as a coach than. Because right now they like, almost are trying to get him out. Like, Dable's the problem. Giants have been bad for. This is it. If he doesn't win this year, he's out.

[Matt]

By the way, he just bought himself more time by getting Jackson dart.

[Jerry]

Right? Because then he gets to fully.

[Matt]

He basically gets Jackson darts career plays this year. You can, like, have some growing pains, but, like, if he looks great, competitive, we're on to something. We like, let's keep them together.

[Jerry]

I implore you, go look at the box score of that Giants Vikings playoff game three years ago. On the road, Daniel Jones and the offense looked fantastic. And now you cut two years later. You wonder, how the hell did he do that? Because it was. It's the same team. Last year was the same team, different every year. Isaiah Hodgins had 130 yards and two touchdowns, bro.

[Matt]

It's. It's. Come on, bro.

[Jerry]

Do you know who you know, got me a little pumped up? Is your son Cole.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Because I didn't know he knew Jackson.

[Matt]

Great. We know.

[Jerry]

So I was doing my Giants hype thing, and Cole's kind of being real coy. He's like, yeah, no, Jackson looks good. I'm like, oh, you're calling him Jackson? Like, you know, he's like, yeah. And then he. He's like, no, no, the dudes He. He. You know what, Cole, they text each other. He said, like, he wants to be a great quarterback. I'll tell you something that fired me.

[Matt]

All up about something about Jackson. You know, you. You kind of. Like there's a trait, like the it factor. You hear that? But there's a. There's a certain aura or like, Joe Burrow has it, right? There's a. There's a little bit of a swag. You see all these sports. Baker Mayfield has it. He has it.

[Jerry]

Cleveland.

[Matt]

Well, Cleveland botched that. And now he's. Look at him like, he's unbelievable.

[Jerry]

He's.

[Matt]

He's a great, like, playoff quarterback. Winning games and just love the dude Jackson dart. Now, I don't want to make him the next Brady, but, like, he has a aura and an energy about him where that whole team is like, oh, hell yeah. This kid's the real deal. Like, he just ha. He has that. He always has. He had it. Ole Miss, by the way. He had it at usc. You probably don't remember he was at usc.

[Jerry]

I.

[Matt]

That's what he wanted to say.

[Jerry]

But Lincoln brought work out with him.

[Matt]

Lincoln brought Caleb Williams in and Link and they basically so Jackson. Jackson to the dark. You know, they just said, like, Caleb's coming. And so he kind of forced him into the. So he was. He was picking between. I think it was Ole Miss or like in Oklahoma or something like that. And I remember we had a conversation because Lane is the best. Lane's one of the best. Getting NFL guys ready college system. You're going to play in the sec, you dominate there. You're going to be. You're there.

[Jerry]

And he.

[Matt]

I mean, we didn't have a say, but just. That's what he did. He just went out and ball for three years. Ole Miss kid can run. He's tough, he's durable. He's got a hose ever. He fits into everybody. Like, he's a real deal dude now.

[Jerry]

You got to go perform well.

[Matt]

Name of the game.

[Jerry]

I also feel like, though, did you were you ever like the. The vet with the really, really young dude? You know, I know you were the young dude.

[Matt]

I was still pretty relatively young. I was like 31 when I was.

[Jerry]

Saying, like, the position that Russ is in and even James to a degree where, like, both talented. Russ clearly has.

[Matt]

Kurt was there with me when I got drafted.

[Jerry]

Right.

[Matt]

And Eli, like, how do you think you.

[Jerry]

Did you ever stop and think, like, how you would have been with like. Like, Russ knows I'm gonna be here. Hey, if we get hot and go on a run, I'll be around. But if not this kid, probably coming in around week eight or nine, maybe.

[Matt]

10, depending on how we're doing that point. And Russ in particular because of his last couple years, like, he. I mean, Justin Fields started last year. I know he had. He was dealing with injuries, but, like, I think Russ knows at this point in his career, it's like, there's probably a short leash with my play, and especially when you draft a first round draft pick. But, I mean, he's also 37. Like, I mean, I think he just goes out there, does the job. He'll play all year. The best thing Jax can do is just sit this year and learn. Like, maybe play some. Maybe get some meaningful snaps here and there. But, like, sit and learn. Because you have two guys, by the way, if they keep three, but they keep Jamis, they got two. Dudes have played a lot of football in the NFL. Really, Like, Jamis would be a great guy to learn from as well, you know?

[Jerry]

So is Malik Neighbors the number two receiver in fantasy football if James Winston starts taking snaps? Because look what he did with Jerry Judy last. Jerry Judy had like 400 yards in two games.

[Matt]

A lot of interceptions, though, too, so.

[Jerry]

Right. But I feel like Neighbors might have a few. Like, 12 catches for two.

[Matt]

10 neighbor's gonna have a big year with. I mean, look what he had last year. He had over 100 catches last year with Subpar.

[Jerry]

I'm sorry. I'm buying the vibes. I'm buying the aura. We should get out of here now, huh?

[Matt]

Talking giants for 15 minutes.

[Jerry]

I'm not gonna crush you with that, but I had to get you a little bit while I had the time. Well, good to be in person.

[Matt]

Yeah, dude.

[Jerry]

And we'll be back next week. Congrats again. His fault. He talked me into big three.

[Matt]

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