← Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
Matt’s CFB Playoff Road Trip, Bruce Feldman’s Transfer Portal Breakdown & Scott Porter Joins the Pod
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Matt Leinart
Can you end this with beatboxing, please? Can we get a beatbox?
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Scott Porter
Everybody always asks for the beatbox. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.
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Jerry Ferrara
Damn, Porter.
- [00:19]
Matt Leinart
Maybe we'll change our theme song to that. That.
- [00:33]
Jerry Ferrara
All right. Welcome to another episode of Throwbacks presented by Cash App. Sending, spending, saving, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting, or just typing in numbers, all with the number one finance app in the app store. That's money. That's cash App. Matt Leiner. You know what? I want to lead off with this show right now because I'm so hyped up. Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose. So good Friday Night Lights alum Scott Porter, AKA Jason Street's going to be joining us later, which I'm so fired up for. He's a huge college football fan too, but I know him for a long time. I just think that. And they just announced Friday Night Lights reboot. Reboot is pretty much on and going. It's going to be a new storyline. I think it would be foolish not to invite some old cast member. Like, clearly Jason street could be coaching somewhere, right?
- [01:26]
Matt Leinart
God, what a stud. And also just looked into, my wife has a just ultimate crush on him and pretty much every guy in that show and he just looks into the, the video and just gives her a clear shout out. Like it was, like, it was amazing. What a great dude. What iconic show. Like legendary iconic show. Kind of the same time. It was the same years. You guys were kind of on that.
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Jerry Ferrara
Kind of the same time. And when I, you know, I always get up, I always get asked the reboot question and, and you know, my take with Entourage is it's, it's just hard to think what it would be. But sure, I guess it could happen. But Friday Night Lights is such a clear reboot. You could drop in at any point, change schools, just stay in West Texas or wherever it is under the lights on Friday, get a good little love triangle in there and we're off to the races, right?
- [02:13]
Matt Leinart
The love triangle. Yeah, it's a great show. He, he's, he's awesome. And what a multi talented guy too. Like unbelievable. Just like you talk about, like we talk about versatility in, in our world, like of sports studio shows, like, you know, like in, in any industry, like the more you can do, the better. Like if you look this, look Scott up and just his resume and his like IMDb page and like every, like he's truly remarkable. Like everything that he's been able to do and like what a great dude, man. And you guys used to rock fantasy football.
- [02:46]
Jerry Ferrara
Together all the time. I'm out on fantasy. I even told him on tap. Yeah, you're, you're. I'm like, scott, I'm out on fantasy, I bet now. And he's like, what? That's for like, he's, he's still like hanging out.
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Matt Leinart
I have a spot open. I have a spot open up in my league for next year. Come on, dude.
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Jerry Ferrara
It's going to be really hard to get me back in. It's going to be really hard to get me back in.
- [03:03]
Matt Leinart
What's it going to cost? What's it going to cost?
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Jerry Ferrara
That's why me, I might. I have to sign an nil deal to join your fantasy league. It did inspire our Throwback 3 today. So in honor of Scott Porter, aka Jason street joining us, we're going to do our throwback three best fictional quarterbacks in movies or TV shows. That'll be later in the show, but we said triangle three. Speaking of things, of three, you this weekend have something happening. You're going to three places this week.
- [03:34]
Matt Leinart
Christmas is coming early for me.
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Jerry Ferrara
Let, let the audience know because to me, this is what I would want for Christmas is this exact trip without.
- [03:42]
Matt Leinart
All the just super in the weeds details. So this weekend is the first week in the College Football Playoff. 12 teams, right? Everybody's super excited. Got a couple great NFL games on Saturday. It's like they're going head to head, but it's kind of like what everybody's want, right? This is the first like March Madness esque for college football. So my oldest committed to smu. So we're originally going to Penn State SMU game all the way over to State. College was just there a month ago. Hell of a, hell of a travel day for us. But you know what, you only get to do these things once in a lifetime with my oldest. So I said, screw it, we're going. Let's go. So we were going in the stands, we're sitting fans like SMU rock and whatever. I'm total dad mode, okay? I get a text from a buddy that like, hey, you know, what time is that game? All these games are like lining up or telling the times and he's like, why don't you fly out to. To Notre Dame or Chicago Friday, come to the Notre Dame Indiana game. Brady Quinn, my buddy on the show with me, he's obviously going to be there and this other friend is friends with both of us. He's like, let's go to that game and then we'll just fly over on the plane over to Columbus that night. You can, you can take the plane over to Penn State the next morning. The Penn State game's a noon eastern game. So fly it back, we'll go do dinner in Columbus. And this is one of my best buddies. So it's like, you know, he's like family. He's like, fly back, we'll go to dinner and then we'll go to Ohio State, Tennessee that night. And while I'm having this conversation, I'm in the car on speaker. You know, I'm driving on speaker and Cole is looking at me like freaking out like, what, dad? What, what is it happening? Is it happening? So we're essentially, we're going to Notre Dame, Indiana Friday night. We're flying to Columbus that night. We're waking up. We're. We're taking the plane over to State College on Saturday morning. We're, we're, we're. We might actually be in a suite. That game. I mean, I don't know, but it's. We freezing. We're watching that game at noon. We're coming back. It's about a 45 minute flight. We're coming back.
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Scott Porter
We're.
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Matt Leinart
We got a great dinner down in. On Hyde street or what's it. I don't even know the street in Columbus, but the street we're always at when we're in Ohio. And then we're going to the night game, which is 8:00 Eastern game, Ohio State, Tennessee. The next morning, we're coming home. So I would have been gone the same amount of time. I'm actually home earlier, leaving from Columbus and State College. But I mean, three of the four playoff games this weekend, we will be in attendance. Shout out to my boy. Cool experience. You know, it's not like I get to do that thing every, all the time. So I don't again. And that, that is, it's just wild. It's just like it, it couldn't have worked out like the timing right and the proximity of each place. It just like literally couldn't have worked out any better, I guess. And we're doing it, man. We're going to.
- [06:24]
Jerry Ferrara
So that, that's a dream trip for any sports fan, let alone college football fan. But here's to me, the thing that makes it iconic for you. Your son's gonna be with you. You know, even if you were just doing that with friends, like, you know, Matt and his buddies, that's an unbelievable. You could do a. That would be the greatest bachelor party. That would be the greatest bucket list, like just Whatever. But the fact that you're doing it with your kid, who's getting ready to go off to college, getting used to traveling west to east, he's gonna have to do that in his profession.
- [06:52]
Matt Leinart
He's gonna be. He's gonna be miserable Saturday. I said, buddy, I said, there's gonna be absolutely Zero complaining these 48 hours. I don't care if you sleep three hours Friday night.
- [07:01]
Jerry Ferrara
Don't say nothing.
- [07:02]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, this weekend is gonna be, you know, point, man, because, like, I've. We've talked about this on. On the show, but, like, I. I'm in. I. It's like, we wear a lot of hats, man, as dads and. And moms and work and. And this and that, and. But for me to watch my kid live out, like, what I was able to do, and he gets to do that in his own way, and now he's committed to this school. He's just so fired up. It's just awesome to see, right? It's like, it's. I'm just so proud of him, right? So I. It's not even me football. It's not even me. It's just me, dad. And then this weekend came up, and, like, I've been traveling every weekend all fall. And it's a lot of travel, as you know, and we're going. We connect everywhere, and it's. It's not easy to get to. And then it was State College. I'm like, oh, my God. It's like the. The hardest place to get to from la. Literally. It's like, it's just miserable, right? But he's like. He looked at me, he's like, dad, I really want to go, man. Like, it's once in a lifetime. And I'm like. I look at him like, you're right. Like, who cares? We're gonna sit in the plane, we're gonna watch a movie, we're gonna hang out. Like, I'm gonna get that one on one time with him. I miss a lot of his stuff in the fall, you know? Like, I miss a lot with the family, but I miss every one of his high school games on Friday night, which kills me. So I told the wife, she goes, go. Like, just do it. Like. Like, we. Like, we never get that opportunity again. So. And then obviously, it just got enhanced. Like, freaking, like, unbelievable.
- [08:16]
Jerry Ferrara
Getting better. I just kept it.
- [08:18]
Matt Leinart
It would have been amazing if we were just there for Penn State. Like, we were rocking Penn State. We were getting State College. We're going to do dinner Friday night. We were going to Brave the the winter elements Saturday, root for SMU and go to dinner that night and come home.
- [08:31]
Jerry Ferrara
Maybe even a Ferrara surprise showing in Columbus.
- [08:35]
Matt Leinart
Only I'll believe it when I see it, dude. I'll believe it when I see it. You've got a ticket to Ohio State Tennessee and putting this out there right now. Jerry has a ticket to Ohio State Tennessee in the suite. Nice dinner before good wine. Nice. Sweet. You don't have to sit outside. Maybe a little snow. About 25 degrees there. You get to be in the shoe to watch Ohio State versus Tennessee. It's great. Never been 100,000 people, hour and a half trip down the road, go back to sleep. You wake up with their kids the next morning like it's. They wouldn't even know you're gone.
- [09:09]
Jerry Ferrara
You make a great case. Matt Lyon. I'm going to repeat. I'm just basically going to show this part of the pod to Bri and just be like, what's your thoughts, by the way?
- [09:16]
Matt Leinart
I mean, what are your thoughts? It's a work trip for us.
- [09:19]
Jerry Ferrara
It is a work trip. We'll do some fun stuff.
- [09:21]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, it's, it's a great, it's a great weekend of college football. We, you know, the, the Portal has been a big story this, this week.
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Jerry Ferrara
And you've been sending me so much stuff and my mind is spinning. So we have something for everybody. We.
- [09:36]
Matt Leinart
We. Yeah, we have, we have a good friend of mine, Bruce Feldman, coming on here in a little bit to kind of just explain what the Portal is. Right? Because we just saw in the, in the, the prime example is the backup quarterback for Penn State, Bo Probulo, who's a good player, plays a lot for them, kind of a package deal, you know, whatever. He announced that he has to. He's going in the Portal. That means he's not going to the game this weekend. Like, it's pretty simple. Like, so he's leaving the team early. Not by choice. James Franklin came out this week and said, you know, this is what's problem with the rules now is this kid was going to leave after the season because Drew Aller announced he's coming back. But he is forced to leave during this window to ensure that basically he has a, a job or a spot that's lined up on the other side. It's, it's in a way almost kind of taking over, like what the story is, and that's the games, and the games will be great. But we have Bruce coming on to kind of just break it down, which Bruce is the Best in the business. He's our insider at Fox and he does an incredible job of kind of just like the, like, breaking it down. Like, what is the portal now? Why is the window now the window that comes in April? Is there an easy fix? What has to happen? So it's. It's wild times, man. Wild.
- [10:49]
Jerry Ferrara
That's the game. So really quick. And because Bruce is going to come on in a second really quick, too. I was just looking at the games and the lines. You know me, I like to put some coins on the. Well, there's no way. By all accounts, the kid who left the in the transfer portal was very, very well liked by coaches. This was not like. So there's going to be no bad blood, meaning within the locker room of Penn State other than the fact that he is a part of some packages and has played even though he's the backup quarterback.
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Matt Leinart
Well, it makes him thin at the most important position. And if.
- [11:17]
Jerry Ferrara
Right. I'm looking at smu. I like vibes, you know, our boy, your boy, our boy Cole's there.
- [11:21]
Matt Leinart
I think they're getting sign.
- [11:22]
Jerry Ferrara
I look for signs. Eight and a half. So I am. If, if. If I do go either way. I could never take Tennessee no matter what. I. I have to go OSU no matter what. That's the one I'm most toss up to me, which is as. Bruce, I'm gonna. I'm gonna feed off you guys, but I am gonna be putting down some coin. But I'm very interested in that Penn State SMU game now because there's emotional story lines and that's what you get me. That's where you get me.
- [11:47]
Matt Leinart
I have. I. I would. Penn State, to me, has a chance to make a run at the national championship, and it's because of their path. If they beat smu, they would play Boise State right at a neutral site. Then they would play the winner of potentially Georgia, maybe Notre Dame. Obviously, Georgia's up and down, but like, I'm just telling you, Penn State kind of like, weirdly has a. It's a really good football team that has a path to make a run that no one is really talking about. But obviously I' take SMU and the points. SMU is good, man.
- [12:24]
Jerry Ferrara
There's a lot of points out there, though.
- [12:25]
Matt Leinart
There are a lot of points. There's. Yeah, there are a lot of points. It makes me a little nervous. But they are home games, though. You got to remember, like, that's a big deal. Texas is getting, like, what. It's a 12 11.
- [12:35]
Jerry Ferrara
Texas is laying 12. That's why too for me. I like Texas.
- [12:39]
Matt Leinart
Notre Dame's Lane. What, seven.
- [12:41]
Jerry Ferrara
Nordame seven and a half. Nordame seven and a half. OSU seven and a half. Penn State eight and a half. Texas 12. Yeah, I'm going to pick Texas to cover because that's the only game you're not going to. And to me that's going to be the blowout. You're going to be like, look, we, we even dodged the blowout. We dodged.
- [12:55]
Matt Leinart
I think that's a good shot of being a blowout, though. I think that's a, I think that's a good shot of being a blow. I don't see Clemson scoring a ton in that game. So. And Clemson has struggled against, outside of smu, they struggle against. I think they played Georgia and South Carolina, the only two teams ranked. They played during the regular season and they, they could, couldn't even move the ball. Now they scored obviously smu, but Texas defense is unreal. So I like that one. That's a safe pick. All right, now we welcome in my good buddy Bruce Fe, our big noon kickoff college football insider, senior college football writer for the Athletic and co host of Bruce and the Bear. Brucey, what up, baby? How you doing, man?
- [13:32]
Bruce Feldman
What's up, guys? Good to be on. Finally made the big time. Thank you for finally inviting me, Matt.
- [13:36]
Matt Leinart
Well, we haven't, we haven't gotten invited on your pod. I mean you do like a million pods, but maybe one day we'll get on there. All right, so wanted to bring you on obviously because this weekend is a big weekend because it's College Football Playoff 12 team. Everyone's really excited for it. I almost feel like unfortunately it's been little overshadowed by the portal news. And just like I think I read like 2000 kids somewhere around there in the portal in this go around. The big one was Beau Prabula who's playing in a college football game. He has to, he left before college football game. Game. Can you just explain the portal? You know, why? Now obviously there's another window in the springtime how it's affecting these players and how it's affecting these teams now and moving forward.
- [14:20]
Bruce Feldman
Yeah, it's mass free agency. So the, the Bo Prabula story. And he's not just a backup quarterback at Penn State. He's a big part of the game plan. They have a package for him because he's a dual threat quarterback. You see him in games, he's accounted for nine touchdowns. He felt like he had no choice if he was going to move on for next year, you got to remember these things. So this is the last week for official visits for transfers. Also, if you were, if he was going to do an official visit, Penn State's playing in the game on Saturday. They have a playoff game. So you would have missed practice time, preparation time. They felt like he couldn't really do that. And as a quarterback, it's different if you're a receiver. If you're a defensive lineman, schools can take multiple. You're only taking one quarterback. So it's essentially like a game of musical chairs, Right. If somebody else gets the spot first, you got to look elsewhere. And I think that's hard. It's really hard for him because as he said, Pennsylvania kid grew up dreaming of playing for Penn State. Now they're in the playoff. It's a home game. You know, you've been in, you know, in Happy Valley for big games. I mean, you know, he's going to miss that. And. But he felt like he had another choice because the timetable, when they have the, this portal window, it's ridiculous because it butts up against the regular, the postseason. And if Penn State keeps winning, he wouldn't have been able to do anything until probably January 20th. So what I think you will have happen at some point is there will be only one portal window and it'll be in the late spring, in that late April to May range after spring football. But what you got to keep in mind, I know a lot of people rant about this. There is no easy fix for this because to move it from, you know, at that point, they're also know you're probably getting lawsuits that'll come up because players will argue, hey, regular students can transfer at mid year. Why can't we football coaches can go take another job at mid year. Why can't we? And so once you get into that issue, that's what a lot of the schools and the NCAA, I think is really worried about, is that if you move it away, move that this one window and reduce it only, you know, spring window, you're going to get lawsuits. And that's why people can think, oh, it's an easy fix to do that. It's not an easy fix.
- [16:38]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, because what does it look like for him if he said, well, I really want to play in the national championship, in the playoffs, I want to try to compete for a national champion. You know, he has what, five touchdowns this year? So he's a part. There is a package for him. If he waits, what does that second window look for him, just like not, he's kind of out of a job.
- [16:55]
Bruce Feldman
Almost, he might be out of opportunities because there's only so many spots. Look, you know, you know, to a, to a lesser degree, you know, Matt, you're seeing this with, with Cole, his son, where it's like you have to look at the board of who else is, is going like, you know, schools aren't, aren't investing and literally now it's investing in multiple quarterbacks. You're either the guy or they, either they move on to somebody else. And I think for him, especially as a dual threat quarterback, there's certain systems he feels like he's got that are going to be best for him. And I, I, I think what you do have, because there's a couple instances of guys, Devin Brown, who's one of the backup quarterbacks at Ohio State, he's in the portal, but he is going to play in the, in the playoff. Preston Stone, who used to be the starter, also going to play. But I think there's guys who may already know where they're going. So if they have a destination already lined up, you know, I think it makes it easier for them to go, okay, I'll join them later. But also for the schools that do that, you run the risk. If it's a quarterback, you, you really value it. Maybe a guy you're going to pay 500 grand or more to, you're taking a chance that that guy is still going to be there. And what happens if that guy just, you know, doesn't end up going to your school? Then all of a sudden you missed out on other quarterbacks? I mean, it's a weird free agency model, unlike the NFL. Like, the NFL isn't doing free agency in the middle of the super bowl season, you know, or in the playoffs. So that's why it's, it's, it's weird. It's a tough fit. I, I get why he was in, felt like he was in a no win situation. And I know from talking to coaches at Penn State, they have a ton of respect for him. I know that some people on the Internet felt like he quit on the team. I know that people at Penn State don't feel that way. They have a ton of respect for him.
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Matt Leinart
I was like telling Jerry this. I actually think maybe because obviously Drew Aller announced he was coming back, right? That was a big thing. I was wondering like, maybe Drew Aller did that in the beginning of the portal, like, because him and Bo, I'm sure really tight say, like, hey, I'm coming back to school. This is going to be your opportunity, obviously, like to get out of here because we all kind of assume Drew might leave. Obviously his. He's not projected to go super high. How.
- [19:02]
Bruce Feldman
But while just on my piece, Matt, this is interesting though, like, because I, He. Drew must have told him ahead of time.
- [19:08]
Matt Leinart
For sure.
- [19:09]
Bruce Feldman
For like a day or two and for sure. But what happens?
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Jerry Ferrara
We.
- [19:13]
Bruce Feldman
We both, you know, you've seen Aller in person. He's big, strong, he's pretty athletic. He's got a good arm. What happens if he goes on a roll and leads them to. Then all of a sudden he may end up going to the draft.
- [19:24]
Matt Leinart
I know, but also what happens if something happens and now they're going. I mean, who's their back? I mean, Tyler Warren is going to be their emergency quarterback. I mean, they're going to play a freshman, right?
- [19:32]
Bruce Feldman
Yeah. Ethan Bruckmeyer, who is like a former elite 11 quarter. No, he was the three. You know, like, how many reps are.
- [19:37]
Matt Leinart
You getting as the 3, 2, 000 kids, right? Give or take. I mean, I always say this too with nil. And like we all, we. There's a lot of tampering going on. Like you said, a lot of these players know where they're going to go before they even enter the portal because agents are talking and all that. Bruce, what percentage of kids do you think go to the portal and don't have something waiting on the other side? Because I think that's always a huge problem with the portal. Like, look, you look at some of the guys, like Miller Moss waited his turn, it worked. Now he's going to go start at Louisville. Like some, you know, Mac Jones, like some of these guys just waited it out for their opportunity. How many players don't get that opportunity but are maybe told something or lied to or now they find themselves on the street?
- [20:23]
Bruce Feldman
Probably 95%, which is crazy. I'm working on now for the athletic about this very thing and talking to a lot of coaches and one of the coaches yesterday made the point, this probably works. The portal probably works really well for like the top 200 kids and the top programs. But for all the other ones, it is a big mess and a big pain in the ass. A lot of kids, and they're still, you know, college because they're young. I think they're naive to. They think, oh, this school recruited me out of high school. Right. And go back to them. Well, that's probably not the case. And I think for a lot of them you know, if you played in college football, even if you played at a lower division, you know, or like lower at a group of five, at least you have film against college kids. It's the guys like, you know, Malachi Nelson's a name, you know, well, you know, former five star kid from Southern California, you know, started out at usc, didn't end up playing there, then bounced to Boise State, didn't win the job there. Now he's bounced again. I think those are tough evaluations for people because it's like, what are you evaluating off High School 7 on 7 film? You know, it's like, yeah, he was once a five star, but, you know, like those, you know how those high school evaluations work. And so I think that's why it's really hard to go through this process. And I do think, as you said Matt earlier, you have a lot of agents and they're not like the agents you had in the NFL. A lot of them are just like all it takes to be an agent in the nil world is like a cell phone and.
- [21:46]
Matt Leinart
Which is crazy.
- [21:48]
Bruce Feldman
You don't need to be licensed or anything. So they can tell a kid, hey, we can get you, I can get you such and such, right? Because this school told me they'll give you 100 grand. How do they know that's true? And then the kid goes in the portal and then they're probably left, you know, with their fingers crossed.
- [22:02]
Jerry Ferrara
I mean, you know, I was definitely one of those you, because you mentioned earlier, everyone rants about, you know, well, you could fix this, but hearing you lay it out, this is far more nuanced than I even realized. When you start even talking about the faux agents of it all, is this all heading in the direction where does it need a commissioner? I know people have ranted about that because, you know, to me, I could see that solving some things, but then you bring on a whole other world. Like, first of all, who's going to be that person? But who do you nominate for it's heading? Is it heading in that direction and who would it be?
- [22:37]
Bruce Feldman
Well, I think, Jerry, I think it's heading in the direction of collective bargaining. And I think this will, this will facilitate or fast track it because every pro sport here in the United States has some version of that. And so it's agreed upon. I think that takes some of the lawsuit threats out of it. If you're going to go with a commissioner, I, you know, it feels like there's got to be either the head of the Big Ten, Tony Petit or the head of the sec, Greg Sankey, because those are the ones who are really driving everything, you know, And I, I think. I don't know if Greg Sankey wants to do that job or not. You know, I don't know. You know, but it's. It's somebody in the power structure because you don't have the blessing of the two big. Two big power conferences. You have nothing. Right. You know, and so I get it. There's been, you know, there's been a lot of chatter for that because college sports is rudderless, especially college football, because.
- [23:29]
Matt Leinart
Of that issue I name. I named Tim Brando. I think we did get our boy.
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Bruce Feldman
Timmy B. I was been asking for a commissioner in college sports for, like, since you were probably in high school at modern day.
- [23:40]
Matt Leinart
I know. Bruce, before we let you go, one last thought on, on just Bill Belichick getting hired by the, you know, Tar Heels, North Carolina. Thoughts on that? I've heard actually a lot of positive feedback. Like, I think it's great for college football. I think it, you know, it's interesting, obviously, his personality. Any inside story on how that went down and, and what's your thought on Bill being in college?
- [24:02]
Bruce Feldman
Yeah, from talking to people who are close to him in this process. You know, he's his, his son Steve was the defensive coordinator at Washington. So he, he was there a lot for, for spring football and for training camp. So he has seen that his call, his system can work in college football and defense, but also that college kids can run it because they were much better, even though they had two starters back on defense. Washington was actually a lot better on defense this year than they were last year. But, you know, he's a brilliant coach. I mean, there's been guys who, whether it's Herm Edwards or, you know, you've seen, you know, Charlie Weiss, you've seen NFL guys come back. They ain't Bill Belichick, though. I mean, Bill Belichick's the greatest football coach in the history of the NFL.
- [24:42]
Matt Leinart
So strange. Still thinking that he's in college.
- [24:45]
Bruce Feldman
Yeah, it is. I mean, but he's, you know, he is the, you know, six Super Bowls that he won and then an additional two as an assistant. I mean, great teacher, you know, knows all three phases better than everybody, all those things. I think he will have a lot of success early because he's going into the acc, not the sec, you know, so we just saw SMU go first time in, not a lot of big recruits. They're in the playoff. Duke with Manny Diaz wins nine games in his first year. Fran Brown at Syracuse. Wins nine games at Syracuse. He's never even been a coordinator before, so you can go into the accident and make a difference. I think though, he will ultimately leave after a couple of years because I think he will just get so, so sick of dealing with unregulated agents and the chaos that's around College football. He's 72. I don't think he's going to want to deal with the nonsense.
- [25:36]
Matt Leinart
You think he'd go back to the NFL? I just, I don't think he had an opportunity in the NFL. I think that like, like to your point, his son obviously is in college. Colleges being ran more like the NFL and it will eventually get more like that in the next couple years. I just gotta. Just like the Jordan brand and obviously Bill Belichick and like recruiting and like, like, like even. I was talking to Cole. I was talking Cole about this. He's like, dad, that's pretty cool, man. Like, it's Bill Belichick. Like, like we can, like he can get us to the NFL. Like, that's the way he thought of it already without even really talking about. So be. It'll be interesting to see him actually having. He's actually laughing a lot more though. Maybe he's kind of like changed a little bit of a tune, like understanding.
- [26:16]
Bruce Feldman
He's got some young, young people around him now.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, you know, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah. What's a 50, 50 year age difference? Hey, it's all right. Good for him, buddy. Well, Bruce, enjoy the, enjoy the game. Who do you got? You got any upsets this weekend?
- [26:30]
Bruce Feldman
The one. I think Brady's not gonna like it, but like, you know, does Indiana learn from what happened in Columbus where. Yeah, you know, our buddy Mark Ingram was, was pulling his hair out because the backs couldn't pick up pressure and they were, you know, Notre Dame's gonna try to do a lot of the same stuff. I think Kurt Spinetti is a really good coach. Maybe they've made adjustments. I love that we're going to get snow on the, on the ground and it's going to be cold. I mean, you know, as you know, you've been.
- [26:54]
Matt Leinart
I'll be there. I'm going to be there for that game. I'm going to be there.
- [26:56]
Bruce Feldman
I hope you're freezing your butt off.
- [26:59]
Matt Leinart
I think I'm going to be in a suite. So we're going to be good. Yeah. Hey, if you're with Brady in South Bend, you're With literally royalty, Royalty, royalty. Jerry walking around with.
- [27:10]
Bruce Feldman
Yeah, last year. And it was awesome to be with. To be with Brady in his element. See, people worship him. Like, I remember we were worshiping. We were walking around the stadium, and Urban was there. And Urban could have been, like, a homeless man. Nobody paid attention to him. It was. They were like, there's Brady Quinn, you know, and it was. And Urban was an assistant at Notre Dame, but it was Brady. I mean, you get that treatment, you know, around here anyway, Matt. But, like, it was really, as, you know, Brady's friend. It was so cool to see how people revere him around South Bend.
- [27:42]
Jerry Ferrara
Hey, there's a couple of fast food spots in Southern California. I get that treatment. When I walk in, they're like, hey, we know. Here comes Turtle from Entourage. Let's go. What's he going to eat? I think I guess that's the closest of being, like a Greek God is Brady Quinn at Notre Dame. I feel like it.
- [27:56]
Matt Leinart
It was. We did. It was last year. So he and I did, like, you know, we walked around, did some content, had fun. And, like, we went into, like, his old dorm freshman year. We went into the dining hall. And, like, South Bend is small, right? And it's just Notre Dame. And he is. He's. You know, he's probably the best quarterback to ever play there, if you really look at it. He is literally. I took Jerry with me to USC like, last month, and, you know, you still get some of that around there. But, yes, he's just bigger. And it's just different student body just. And it was like. It just. It's just a little different with him at Notre Dame. Is. It's. It's pretty freaking funny, dude. You just kind of in good hands this week. You walk. Oh, you're. You're in good hands. Like, we broke into the locker room. Legitimately broke into the locker room. The poor girl who was sitting at the door was like, no, the alarm will go off. And Brady's like, like, like, I got.
- [28:47]
Jerry Ferrara
It, I got it.
- [28:48]
Matt Leinart
If the alarm goes off, don't worry. You'll be fine. You know how Brady talks. You'll be fine. You'll be fine. Sure enough, cops came, all this dude and Brady, and then they're like, oh, Brady Quinn. It was awesome. So I like Indiana. I like that one. I'm pulling for my. I'm pulling for the Mustangs. I know you're pulling for the Mustangs. I think Texas is gonna handle them. And then I think Ohio State, Tennessee. I think that one's going to be interesting. I do like Ohio State. I think they bounce back, but. All right, Bruce Weekend.
- [29:14]
Jerry Ferrara
Thank you, Bruce.
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Matt Leinart
Thanks for joining us, buddy. Appreciate you, man.
- [29:17]
Bruce Feldman
Okay, Safe travels.
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Jerry Ferrara
All right, now it's time for our can't get enough sauce moment of the week, brought to you by Wendy's. Perfect timing. I need to take a little drink. All right, Matt, a lot is going on in the world of sports today. Who's your can't get enough sauce moment of the week?
- [29:32]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, so I'm going with Michael Vick, and Michael Vick just took the head coaching job this week at Norfolk State, which is. Yeah, Norfolk State, which is close to where he lives. He was in kind of in talks, I believe, with Sacramento State. I think that's what first kind of broke and then eventually takes Norfolk. I've. I've gotten to know Mike a little bit at Fox. Great dude. I'm wondering if this is going to be more of a trend that we see with former players throwing their name in the ring for these spots. You look at kind of Antonio Pierce for the Raiders, right? He got that job. Coach prime is the biggest one in college football, and we've seen what he's been able to do. Ray Lewis was, I think, through his name, in a job earlier this year. I know Ed Reed has been like that. And now we're seeing Michael Vick. So it's. It's going to be interesting, dude, to see over the next four or five years, especially when some of these guys actually have success. Just maybe not coaching experience, but having success running teams and understanding, obviously from a player's perspective. So shout out to Mike. Vic. Happy for him. Great dude. Love getting to know him over the years at Fox. And I'm rooting for Norfolk State now, man.
- [30:40]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, that's something I always want to ask at. For like. Like athletes who are in retirement of. If coaching is ever. We even asked Barkley a little bit because if you look around at the NFL, Dan Campbell. Vrabel's gonna go.
- [30:52]
Matt Leinart
Eddie George. Eddie George. Eddie George is. Is having a great job over there. You know where he's at. So I love it.
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Jerry Ferrara
I love it. Mine. Mine is a theme. Mine is a theme. I can't get enough sauce. Moment of the week is the. The whole team and organization of the Milwaukee Bucks. Look, I can't say I really cared about the NBA.
- [31:14]
Matt Leinart
You don't like the Bucks, though?
- [31:16]
Jerry Ferrara
I don't like the Bucks, but here's what I like. Number one, the Bucks are now starting to play really good basketball. In the NBA Cup. They're getting healthy. I had the feeling Giannis was going to be like the Terminator this year. But the most important thing, they win the NBA cup, which we still don't quite know what it is. Every baseball player would have popped champagne celebrated because they won the NBA Cup.
- [31:38]
Matt Leinart
It's the NBA cup, bro. It's a mid season tournament.
- [31:41]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, your Lakers drank champagne and beer last year. If they won the NBA cup, you.
- [31:45]
Matt Leinart
Know what the Bucks did.
- [31:46]
Jerry Ferrara
They, they did. The Bucks said, no, we're not gonna do that. They didn't. All the champagne they had in the locker room was left in the coolers. No champagne.
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Matt Leinart
They actually had champagne. Ready to go.
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Jerry Ferrara
Yes. There's a picture.
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Matt Leinart
You're our NBA guru.
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Scott Porter
What?
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Matt Leinart
What is. What is the point? I mean, but outside of a lot of the guys getting whatever it was. A half a million dollars or a million dollars. Yes.
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Jerry Ferrara
Which is very cool for, you know, guys.
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Matt Leinart
1,012. Yeah, yeah. But even guys six, seven, and eight are still getting millions of dollars, but pretty cool. Milwaukee Bucks love them. I'm actually a fan of all those guys. No champagne.
- [32:22]
Jerry Ferrara
They didn't even. They did it and they went about their business.
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Matt Leinart
What is the NBA Cup?
- [32:26]
Jerry Ferrara
We're still trying.
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Matt Leinart
What the hell are we doing?
- [32:29]
Jerry Ferrara
We're trying to figure it out still. Matt, that wasn't the sauciest part. The sauciest part was the Bucks did not drink the champagne and celebrate because to me, that's the kiss of death.
- [32:39]
Matt Leinart
To me, that's it.
- [32:41]
Jerry Ferrara
What'd you Lakers do? They won the NBA cup, they drank champagne and they got bounced.
- [32:45]
Matt Leinart
By the way. My daughter drank all the champagne and they whooped on.
- [32:48]
Jerry Ferrara
But that's a baseball.
- [32:49]
Matt Leinart
Every.
- [32:49]
Jerry Ferrara
But every team drinks champagne and baseball. There wouldn't be a world. Some team has to win the World Series and they all do it anyway. Doc Rivers even said, you know, yeah, we just left it there. We didn't even have any. So shout outs to the Bucks. That is my Wendy's. Can't get enough sauce. Moment of the week. Don't know what the NBA cup is, but I do know passing on champagne for a midseason whatever win is. Is saucy.
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Scott Porter
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Jerry Ferrara
Yes. Joining us now, my good buddy Scott Porter. We know each other from fantasy football and acting as well. But just real quick, we did the. The guilty thing of a great moment that we were not rolling for. You know, you. Come on, you got a nice Denver Broncos helmet in the background. How did you start again? Refresh us. You talk about your wife and cheerleading and how does that intersect with Mr. Matt Lyon?
- [35:44]
Scott Porter
Yeah, no, I said I moved my. I. We just got new Internet in the house and I had to Be in a different space. I'm in my wife's craft room and I had to move some helmets and stuff to, you know, dress up the space. I've got my Nebraska stuff up there. And I just said, you know, I thought about it, but I didn't move to Texas stuff up here because my wife was a cheerleader at the University of Texas and she actually cheered at the Rose Bowl. Texas, usc.
- [36:07]
Matt Leinart
Of course she did. Of course she did.
- [36:08]
Scott Porter
Yeah.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, that's great.
- [36:10]
Scott Porter
Reaching the ball out, you know, the whole thing.
- [36:14]
Matt Leinart
The confetti coming down, the picture that haunts me forever. Yeah, it's. It's awful. But, yeah, whatever, man. Hey, it's good to see you, buddy. Thanks for coming up.
- [36:23]
Scott Porter
No, thank you for having me. It's good to be here.
- [36:24]
Matt Leinart
By the way. Okay, really quick, because I know you're from Nebraska, right?
- [36:28]
Scott Porter
Yes.
- [36:29]
Matt Leinart
So Omaha.
- [36:30]
Scott Porter
Yes, sir.
- [36:31]
Matt Leinart
Or. Yeah, my dad was born. Born and raised in Omaha.
- [36:34]
Scott Porter
What part? Yeah, I'm born in Papillion and then I moved all over the place, but.
- [36:37]
Matt Leinart
Honestly, no clue what part. He lived there till he was about 8 or 9, then moved to California, but all his cousins still live there. So we just did the College World Series this past year. It's kind of like, it was like a bucket list thing. So I took, I took my youngest son, little Daddy, like sun time for him. He's only three. But then my brother's nephew, or my brother's son, my nephew's a big time baseball player. He's 10. There's like, they do that big tournament out there during the College World Series for all the kids, like a thousand teams. And then we went to see a couple of the games. We took my dad, so it was really cool. But, but, but have you been, have you been to the World Series?
- [37:13]
Scott Porter
Oh, I've been to the College World Series plenty of times. I haven't taken kids yet. And that's like, I. I tell them there's something about the ding of the yellow and a bat and, you know, the old Rosenblatt park, which I know is completely updated.
- [37:24]
Matt Leinart
Yeah.
- [37:25]
Scott Porter
A new stadium now, but yeah, I went many times as a kid. Many times.
- [37:29]
Matt Leinart
It was cool. It was, it was cool. Like it was just, just walking. Honestly, it was the coolest part was being with my dad. My dad's older, so, like, for him, and we're a big baseball family, so for. For us to look around that, that little area, like the hotel we stayed at, you walk around, it's pretty cool. Like, it's, it's A. It's definitely. I don't think Jerry's gonna go, but it's.
- [37:46]
Jerry Ferrara
I'm more focused on Scott. I, you know, I want to actually take. Because over here in Ohio, it's like, right in between Ohio and New York Williamsport, where they play the Little League World Series. That's where I want to take my kids 5 and 3, because I just hear it's a lot of fun for them, go down the grass slide and all that stuff. So really quick, though. All right, so we know Nebraska, but where did the Broncos come with you? I never got the backstory from you of where the love of the Broncos came from.
- [38:14]
Scott Porter
Okay, here's the deal, man. When you're from Nebraska, you are a free agent. So I walk people through all this stuff because you and I actually share a team in common. We love the Knicks. So let me start. When you're in Nebraska, you're Nebraska born and bred. It's all corn Huskers all day. You're spoken for. For college football back in the 80s, right? College basketball was the next sport I started kind of to watch. It was another thing that was on, you know, Saturdays. So college football rolled over into college basketball in the spring. And I would get up, I'd watch Saturday morning cartoons, and I'd watch whatever came on next. And what came on next was Big east basketball. So I'm 4 or 5 years old. I'm watching the Hoya Destroyer run onto the court. You know, I'm watching Villanova, and I'm watching Syracuse. And I became a huge Patrick Ewing fan, so I followed him to the NBA. So I'm a Georgetown and a New York Knicks fan. And then I started watching professional football and when you live in Nebraska, the games that come on, because back then, we didn't have satellite to all the kids out there, you know, we. We had two games to choose from. That was it, right? And you would get Chiefs games, sometimes Vikings games. Bears games would always be on because there was a network called wgn, and they carried, you know, Bears, they carried the Bulls. That's why so many people were Bulls fans who didn't. Who aren't from Chicago. It's just because they could watch them all the time, right? So I didn't like the Bears. I didn't like the Vikings, you know, but the Broncos were almost always on. And it's proximity. I mean, it's. They're one state over. So I. I watched John Elway lose three Super Bowls and was still just a massive Broncos fan, because that man had no quitting him and one of the livest arms you've ever seen. You know, people who come up now who don't understand just how good John Elway was. I challenge y'all to go watch, you know, some highlight reels and everything. And I know everybody looks good in the highlights, but, I mean, he makes some impossible throws, but his heart, his grit, that was like. That was a very Midwestern embodiment. We are very proud of that, right? We get up, we go to work, we don't quit, we don't stop. And that's how Elway played. So that's why I'm a Broncos fan.
- [40:16]
Jerry Ferrara
Listen, I love Elway. I think Matt does this great thing on TikTok and Social where he, like, build your. Your perfect quarterback. And one of them's arm strength. I think I picked Elway for arm strength.
- [40:26]
Matt Leinart
You might. It might have been Elway or Marino. I mean, either way, I mean, Marino had an absolute hell.
- [40:30]
Jerry Ferrara
So here's my 32nd Elway story. It's. It's golf related down in Cabo for New Year's Eve. Played golf with those guys, by the way. He's a stick, of course, right? He's like a one handicap. And then it was me, him and Drew Bledsoe. And this. At this bar in Cabo, they have frozen shot glasses. You take a shot and then you throw it says ice. And then you throw it against this wall. And I'm with Elway and Bledsoe. I'm like, guys, could you still me a favor? Let's take these shots. I want you to just to rear back and just fire. And these dudes pounded it, fired, and it sounded like gunshots. I just, like, if I threw that hard, I think my shoulder would come out of my socket. So. Elway's a legend for a lot of reasons, I think.
- [41:13]
Scott Porter
I think for me, man, I just. I wished that because being an actor, like, so I'm a sports fan, and when I get around other actors, like, I have so much respect for other actors. Like, I met Morgan Freeman once I met James Earl Jones, once I met Clint Eastwood, like, and I just have so much respect and everything for them, but I don't, like, freak out. But when I meet, like, my childhood, like, athletes different, like, icons, like, it's different. And so once I got into the business, like, I just. The only thing I do being a part of this industry is, like, call people to see if I can get to sports games, right? And, like, you know, and it works, man. Go see games everywhere. I want to go to every stadium, every sport, everything. And then I play in, like, these pro Ams, right? Like, I'm sure you do the same with golf. Like, I did it for flag football for a long time because I played football in high school and into college at the university.
- [42:02]
Jerry Ferrara
Oh, we're getting to that, Scott. We're getting to that.
- [42:04]
Scott Porter
I was an invited walk on at UCF and then quit very quickly because I. I knew it wasn't. I knew I wasn't going pro. Let's just say that at the end of the day, like, I started doing these pro Ams and I got. I got to meet Peyton Manning. I got to. To catch touchdown passes from Jim Plunkett and from Dan Marino and from Troy Aikman, but I never once got to play with Elway. So that's like the biggest regret. One of the balls I got behind me is actually signed by, like, everybody in the Madden bowl was like, Barry Sanders, John Randall, Tim Brown. It's crazy. I got to play on fields with those guys. And so that's. That's. That's pretty cool. So for me is like, my dream was always to play with Elway, but never got to catch a pass from the man. But hopefully one day I'll meet him, at least shake his hand.
- [42:44]
Jerry Ferrara
You know, we met years ago through fantasy football. Really, the thing that brought us together, I think we kind of knew each other a little bit and mutual friends. But you. You've had. And have such a good career. So we're gonna go back a little bit because something we talk about a lot on this show is, you know, we connect sports and Hollywood wherever we can. And for me, I'm a little worried that the sports movie, particularly the scripted movie, is going away because it's been. It's been so tapped, and now sports documentaries are so good. And the number one thing that will drive me away from any sports movie is bad not acting. Bad sports actors. We talk about it so much on the show, and that's something I loved so much about Friday Night Lights is the football looked great. We know Pete Berg was probably. Was probably a maniac about that. And what I want to ask you is when you were up for the role, going after the role, whatever, how much was it acting versus how much were Pete or whoever the show like talking to you about the football of it all?
- [43:49]
Scott Porter
Yeah, man. No, Pete. So in Hollywood, there's something called cast contingency, right? When a network green lights a show like NBC greenlit Friday Night Lights, they say, hey, but we want you to really take a hard look at some of our picks, at some of our favorite actors that we think would be great for the show. And Pete Burr came in, like, I don't know, like a new head coach into an organization that's basically like, no, fuck that. Like, not doing it right. Like, I'm not doing that. I'm going to cast the people that I think are right for the roles, period. I'm not putting any of your stunt casting into the show. But the football never really came into it. He just wanted guys and girls who he thought, like, really embodied the spirit of the characters. Because as great as Friday Night Lights was, and we did have wonderful football coach Alan Graff was our stunt coordinator. He's been around. He's almost any big football movie you've ever seen, that's him. But he's also done stunts, you know, for other shows, like Deadwood. You know, this guy is very accomplished. And so that's why our football looked really good. And we had former D1 players who were the stunt doubles. So Aldous Hodge, who played Voodoo Tatum. James Brown from the University of Texas was his stunt double who led Texas to a Big 12 championship. Eric Smart, who started at free safety for Texas Tech, was Tim Riggins main stunt double. Stunt double. And there's another guy that we called Wichita who was literally playing, you know, semi pro football at the time that was like his other stunt double, because Riggins needed two stunt doubles, of course, but throughout.
- [45:20]
Jerry Ferrara
The fullback position is gone now. But Riggins was the last great fullback.
- [45:25]
Scott Porter
He was the last great fullback. But the. The thing with the casting was, you know, he took chances on people who wanted to, like, leave their mark on the character. He didn't care as much about the athletics with the actors. So, like, when I went into audition for it, I ripped a different scene out of the script and went into the casting director, Stephen O'Neill, and said, Hey, I think you have the wrong scene for Jason Street. And he said, what do you mean? And I said, you don't have the locker room where he says, I think everybody loves football. You know, the question. There's like a line from the show, do you think God loves football? And he says, I think everybody loves football. That line wasn't in the audition scene. Instead, they had like a kissy, kissy scene with Minka Kelly, with Mika Kelly's character, Lila Garrity. And I was like, I think this is. So he goes, all right, let's put it on tape. And I think that's the Real reason I even got to test for the show is because Pete was watching reel after reel and going, eh, same thing, same thing. Everybody's doing the same thing. He's like, wait, this kid's doing a different scene? What the hell is this? And they said. They looked at the notes and said, he thought you had the wrong scene for Jason Street. He's like, fly him out. So that's how I booked it. Months later, two weeks before we start shooting, I get a phone call from Casey Hodenfeld. This guy is like, he's been Michael Mann's first ad. I mean, this guy has done a lot of work in the. In the industry. He calls me panicked. Scott, I can't believe we've never asked you this, but holy shit, please tell me you can throw a football.
- [46:47]
Jerry Ferrara
Wow. I'm shocked that that took them that long to ask you that.
- [46:50]
Scott Porter
And then it was cool, because what we did before our. Our actual pilot, and I'm glad they did it before the pilot and not the series, was they actually had a football camp with us. They brought us all down a couple of weeks early ahead of some of the other actors. So me, Gaius Charles, you know, Zach Guilford, Taylor Kitsch, we all came down early. They had the quarterbacks coach from Compton College to help teach myself and. And Zach, you know, how to. How to throw. We went through quarterback drills, like, all this stuff, but it was the coach from Compton College that led us through some of that stuff.
- [47:22]
Jerry Ferrara
That's awesome.
- [47:23]
Scott Porter
And I'll never forget when he walked us into the locker room. I was an off Broadway show at the time about a struggling Christian boy band, and I had blond hair down across my forehead, looked like Justin Bieber. And walk us all into the locker room to introduce us to the stunt players who have been working with Graft for a long time. And like I said, they were former D1 athletes. A lot of these guys, we walk in, these guys are huge. They're sweating. You know, they're doing two A days learning all the stunt choreography. He walks us in, and I got an American Eagle shirt on with this hair. And Coach Graf, he looks like Andy Reid. He's got the big walrus mustache, and he's like, these are the actors. And he looks at me especially, and he goes, we're gonna try and make them look like football players. But we went out, we did the thing, you know, man, we did it. One of my throws is actually on camera. The rest of it, my stunt double, big shout out to Kevin Reed. He backed up Dante Culpepper. At University of Central Florida. He was the guy that was my stunt guy.
- [48:26]
Matt Leinart
He.
- [48:27]
Scott Porter
He is incredible. Like, these guys are magicians with the ball. I know. You know, like, he could do all types of tricks, all. Everything you ever needed a guy to do, you know, and he was. He was so money. So he was my stunt double, and then played a lot of the opposing quarterbacks throughout the series. But one of my throws did make it on the tape, so I was. I was proud of my. What I did.
- [48:46]
Jerry Ferrara
What'd you play in high school? And you see. Would you play?
- [48:50]
Scott Porter
I was a wide receiver. Yeah. I went to Lake Howell High School in Winter Park, Florida. My grandfather retired from the Air Force. That's the whole reason I'm from Nebraska. And he moved to Florida, Said, I don't want to spend another winter in snow. Which I know you know how to. You're dealing with that now, Jerry.
- [49:03]
Matt Leinart
But it's the worst.
- [49:04]
Jerry Ferrara
That's the worst ever.
- [49:05]
Scott Porter
But everybody followed him down there. So I went to high school in college in Florida and played football down there. So I. You know, outside of Texas, I'd say Friday night lights in Florida shine, you know, second brightest, you know, if not even brighter sometimes. So. So it was a cool environment. And then I was invited to walk on at the University of Central Florida in 1998, so.
- [49:25]
Jerry Ferrara
All right, now it's time for Defining Moments, brought to you by nhtsa. And for today's edition, we want to know a little more about Scott Porter's.
- [49:34]
Matt Leinart
Defining moment as a football player. You probably were aware. Were you aware of when you get this show? Because this show is. It's like. Jerry, like, Entourage, it's like just an iconic show, and you guys had an iconic run. Were you aware of how big Texas football was? And then also when you got the job, you're like. And I know you're younger, but, like, shit like, this could be something huge. Like, were you aware of that when you got that?
- [49:58]
Scott Porter
Yeah, 100%. My mom is from Amarillo, Texas. My grandma, her whole side of the family, they're all from Texas. You know, she got three brothers named William, which no one ever called them. William is Billy, Bob, Dub, and Buster.
- [50:10]
Matt Leinart
And there you go.
- [50:11]
Scott Porter
You know, it is. It is in my blood a little bit, especially on my mom's side of the family, all the way down. So I really understood. And being from Nebraska, I mean, it's the same thing. It's like the people don't understand that Lincoln Memorial Stadium on Saturdays is the third most populous area in the state of Nebraska, outside of the cities of Lincoln and Omaha, there is no city in Nebraska. Our town, I should say, in Nebraska, that has a larger population than what Lincoln Memorial can hold. And it's full every week.
- [50:45]
Matt Leinart
And whether they're winning or losing, they're always.
- [50:48]
Scott Porter
Yeah, since 1962, every sellout, right? We're like 490 or almost 500 sellouts, you know, but it's you. You bleed husk of red. So I understood the concept of that. What I wasn't completely aware of is just how these towns recycle this feeling, right? Because I was still young when I jumped into this show, but I had a feeling like this was going to be a different thing. But how, you know, people who never got out of the town reinvest themselves into these student athletes because they want to vicariously live out their dream. And that's what Pete did such a good job of showing. And I think that's why people love the show so much, is because it's not just about the sport. It's just not about the Friday nights. It is about Monday through, you know, Thursday. It's about, you know, Saturday through Thursday. It's about all the other days when people are trying to live their life in this town that. That, you know, they wish they could get out of. Right? And that's. That's kind of what I wasn't completely up on. But Pete did such a good job, and Jason Kums and everybody else did such a good job of delivering. But, yeah, man, for me, I was doing off Broadway at the time. I auditioned for a big, big musical with Disney theatricals. Came down to me and one other guy to do Tarzan on Broadway. But it was my first year in New York. It was my first year with an agent, and I never auditioned for television pilots, really. And we asked if we could get in the contract and out to go do television if I booked a job. And I ended up not getting Tarzan, but getting offered the lead understudy role. I was, you know, gonna be in the ensemble. I'd be on the album. It was a pretty cool. You're on the team, you know, for a kid from Nebraska to be, oh, my God, I'm gonna be on a Broadway stage, and I will eventually play Tarzan. That would be pretty cool.
- [52:31]
Matt Leinart
That's sick.
- [52:32]
Scott Porter
And the guy that sat me down from Disney theatricals looked at me and said, why do you want to go do television in the first place? You're just going to be fourth handsome guy from the left on some WB show. And Have a. You know, that's going to be your career. We can teach you how to own a stage. And I was like, okay, so obviously doesn't understand I got an athlete's mentality. I'm like, you telling me I'm just going to be like a four stringer the rest of my life? That ain't going to work.
- [52:56]
Matt Leinart
Hell, yeah.
- [52:57]
Scott Porter
So I went into pilacies. I started passing on scripts. I was like, nope, I don't think this is the one. My agent calls me. She's like, what the are you doing?
- [53:05]
Matt Leinart
Is this before? This is. This is before you ever even had. Had a job, A role?
- [53:09]
Scott Porter
Before I ever had a job. But I thought this was, you know, I don't know. You get a chip on your shoulder. So I was like, no, no, no. She's like, you don't pass it anything. Seventh script I ever got was Friday Night Lights. And the thing is, is I played, you know, I played with four future NFL players on my high school football team. I went and saw Friday Night Lights with two of them in the movie theater at the movie movie. I knew this was a special project, and that's why I ripped scenes out. That's why I, you know, went and I ended up booking it. And it was like kind of like a big middle finger to the Disney theatricals. Big guys. I was like, this is. I'm not going to be fourth guy from the left. I'm going to have a career like, you know, in spite of you guys. So I always say thank you.
- [53:51]
Matt Leinart
Could you imagine if you. If you would have just stuck with Tarzan and never would have done Friday Night Lights?
- [53:56]
Scott Porter
Man, this life is crazy, I'm sure, isn't it? Yeah, Jerry, like being in this industry, and I'm sure for you too, Matt, like, like, you know, athletics is just as much about opportunity as anything, too. Like, I know there are so many people out there infinitely more talented than I am that just didn't have the opportunity. That's why I look at it like, okay, I got the opportunity. I'm gonna give it everything I got because I don't want to disrespect them, right? Like, I don't want to take this opportunity and not give it 100%. I don't want to take this opportunity and not put everything I have into it because I have friends back in Orlando that I performed with the theme parks that are just. They're more talented than me, but never had, like, the shot. And so, you know, in a weird way, you know, you do it for them, too, you know, so that was that. That's my story, how I got into the show and everything. That's how I approach work in this industry.
- [54:45]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, I think. And I'm with you, by the way, I think I only even attempt to maintain an acting career to keep my Knicks tickets. I think I. I think that's my only real interest. You know, I'm kind of.
- [54:56]
Matt Leinart
By the way, it's the greatest flex. You have. The greatest flexion. Have courtside Knicks tickets whenever you want.
- [55:00]
Jerry Ferrara
It's just like, I. I really don't think I have any. Not that. I mean, I'm sure I have interest. Right. Project. Right. But, like, I continually just always put. Have some kind of meat on the grill. So then when I make that call, like, hey, it's, you know, Knicks warriors, you got room. Like, yeah, come on out. But what I love what you said. We always try to find, like, the intersection of. Because I do. I had this talk once with Justin Tuck at a Knicks game, right? And he's asking me all these acting questions. I'm like. And I'm asking them all these NFL and football questions. And I think I finally found the relationship between athletes and actors. I think what we have in common, nothing really physical. Maybe you, Scott, because you played high school football, it's understanding the moment. An actor's job is really to understand the moment and what you're trying to convey. And I think you could say the same thing about football, Matt. You played the position on the highest level. How many times you. In a situation where it's, It's. It's understanding the moment. Like, hey, we got to get this yard and a half, or else it's not a first. Like, you got to. Or even end of game. Like, this is the play right now. It's understanding the moment. I think you, Scott, sounds like you understood the challenge. Like, it's almost like, you know, when you hear the stories about football players remembering everyone who passed on them in the draft, that's what Disney. That's what the music department at Disney did for you, essentially. They were giving you that motivation. So, you know, what a defining moment. Good for you. That's incredible.
- [56:23]
Matt Leinart
I love that.
- [56:24]
Scott Porter
It's. It's a blast to be able to look back and. But I do. I do remember, like, days on set. Like, I remember a sequence of plays when I was playing. Like, there are certain sequences of things that you'll never forget, but a lot of stuff we just flush, right? I think that's a similarity, too.
- [56:39]
Jerry Ferrara
Like, Matt's gonna quiz you.
- [56:41]
Scott Porter
Oh, man.
- [56:42]
Matt Leinart
He did. That's my segue. But go. But go ahead, keep going. You're talking about plays. Yeah.
- [56:46]
Scott Porter
Yeah, man. No, but it's just that. It's that same kind of thing. Like, there are some games you just. Just throw away, right? You gotta have a short memory. There's. Sometimes I'm out there, I do something poor and I'm just like, oh, man, I just gotta forget that. You can't.
- [56:55]
Jerry Ferrara
That's me every day, Right?
- [56:57]
Scott Porter
Exactly. We're neurotic. Actors can be neurotic, but you gotta have a short memory, right? And that's what they always athletics. You just gotta have a short memory. But then there's those special ones where you remember every single moment. Everything slows down. You remember everything. And when it really hits, it hits. Right. Like, it's. It's just cool. That's. That's something I've always thought about.
- [57:17]
Matt Leinart
So a couple weeks ago, and this hasn't aired yet, but we did. Jerry made me audition. Okay. So I actually, I've auditioned.
- [57:24]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, he made me Connolly and Dylan made him in front of his guys for draft day.
- [57:28]
Matt Leinart
I actually. Well, I. I auditioned for draft day, actually. When it came, I really did. That was actually pretty cool. Clearly I wasn't good enough. I didn't seize the moment. But. So you're talking about play. So did you have to recite plays when you were doing Friday night Lives? Like, did you have real plays or like whatever, like a huddle, right? You did, yeah. And you're obviously have a football background. So I pulled. I pulled. This is crazy. So I pulled an old call sheet from Gary. Yeah, it's hard to see at the light. Okay, so this is an old call sheet.
- [58:01]
Scott Porter
Okay.
- [58:02]
Matt Leinart
This is from The Houston Texans vs Baltimore Ravens divisional playoff, January 15, 2012. Well, so this is the run.
- [58:08]
Jerry Ferrara
That's shout.
- [58:10]
Matt Leinart
That's Matt Shop. So we're. We lost this game. We're at Baltimore. This is like 2012. So this is like Ed Reed.
- [58:18]
Jerry Ferrara
You still have the one from 2012. Like, that was in your.
- [58:22]
Matt Leinart
Okay, so what I wanted to do. What I wanted to do. Well, no, this was like under the bed somewhere or some. My wife is like, why do you still have that? Throw it. I have it for moment, for moments like this. Okay, so I'm gonna read a play. And this is what they do to us in the. It's very similar to audition. So, like when we go to the combine and there's a team that really wants you and Sean Payton did this with me, with New Orleans. I think I met with maybe the New York Jet. I met with the New York jets for hours when they came out and did actually like a private workout where they sit you in like a room and they just grill you on whatever. And then they make you. They send you the whole, you know, the story. They send you the whole playbook before. Read it and then they're going to quiz it to you like a month later. Right? Some people do. Some people don't. Don't terrify. So this is a call sheet. So I'm going to name. I'm going to say. I'm going to say a play here. This is out of base. This is a really easy one, dude. This is like acting 101, football 101. Okay? Right. So I want. I'm going to say the play. I want you guys to give it. I'm going to say the play, the read, and I want you guys to recite it back to me. I want Scott to go first. Okay? Okay. Hug near right, slot, two jet. X curl halfback burst. Hug near right, slot, two jet. X curl, halfback, verse, halfback verse. Your read is a curl flat defender. The curls one, the flats the two. Your Z is on a skinny post, single high man. Your halfback burst is your third. Your two jet, which means your fullback in this formation has the will. Linebacker. No, has the Sam to the mic. Your offensive line has the four down, sliding to the will. You're hot off the Sam. Mike, that's hug near right, slot, two jet. What's the question? I want you to recite that and give me the reaction.
- [60:00]
Scott Porter
Yeah, so. So if I'm right, you're. You're initially looking weak side. Your hot read's going to be right if your weak side linebacker is jumping the route. Right. You said the Sam is your hot.
- [60:12]
Matt Leinart
So hug, Hug near right, slot.
- [60:14]
Scott Porter
Hug near right, slot, X curl, halfback burst, half back burst. Yeah, okay.
- [60:21]
Matt Leinart
Okay.
- [60:21]
Scott Porter
Hug near right, 2x curl, fullback, jet.
- [60:27]
Matt Leinart
2 jet.
- [60:28]
Scott Porter
2 jet. All right.
- [60:29]
Jerry Ferrara
I. I am one of those who think that it's all too complicated, but I never played.
- [60:34]
Matt Leinart
It's way too complicated.
- [60:36]
Jerry Ferrara
That sounds obnoxious to me.
- [60:38]
Scott Porter
So my question is, though, like, once you're in Kubiax system, do you start to. I mean, once you're in the system, right?
- [60:45]
Matt Leinart
Yeah.
- [60:45]
Scott Porter
Like, once you've been in the system.
- [60:46]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, I think it's to understand the.
- [60:48]
Scott Porter
Terminology a little bit, but they give it to you cold like, like, and they just expect you to understand their terminology because what might Be scissors for someone is. Is obviously a different term for something.
- [60:57]
Matt Leinart
Well, that's. That's. That's what we always talk about. And you would know this, Scott, from a football, like, when quarterbacks go to all these different, you know, have all these different coordinators, you're essentially, for the most part, learning a new system, a new terminology every single year, which is hard, man. It's like. It's, you know, it's like getting a movie script a day before, and you're like, all of a sudden, hey, you need to know this in the next two weeks. And, like. And you don't get, like, you don't get do overs. Like, you don't get retakes. Like, you get one shot. You know what I mean? Like, you have to learn. So actually, funny story. When I went to Houston, it was with shab, and Dan Orlofsky was there, and I got cut from Arizona. I went to Houston, like, two days later. Literally two days later. And I'm, you know, whatever. I'm learning. I'm meeting with my quarterback coach in the morning, learning this. This is Kyle Shanahan's now system. The same a lot with these Leflore McVeigh. It's like this whole branch, right? This coaching branch. And the first game, I'm sitting there, and I didn't even dress up this game, I'm sitting there and they told me, like, yeah, Kubiak quizzes the quarterbacks the night before the game on, like, the whole thing. The starter, like, literally 100 nuts. But to your point, when you learn it once, it's like, it becomes like, I could. I could recite that play 100 times in my head and know exactly where I'm going with the ball. Once you're in it, like, once you're practicing it and I'm sitting there and I'm like, like, I'm nervous and I'm not even getting called on. And Kubiak actually called on me the first. He's like, liner. Let's see. Like, he was the best. Let's see how smart you are. I heard you're pretty smart guy. And I'm like, coach, like. So he gave me, like, what are the new, like, four new screenplays in this week? And he was with me. I didn't. I was like, coach, I got no idea. But it was like, it. I could imagine. It was like being in, like, your first audition where you're like, probably nervous. You don't want to it up. You're like, don't call on me. Whatever. But yeah, it was. But to your point, Scott, it was like it's basically you learn a new language and then all of a sudden it's just become second nature. But when you go to a different one, you have to start all over again and all over again. And that was. That's. That's a challenging part.
- [62:51]
Scott Porter
Huck, near right. You still think, wait, Hug, near right slot. X curl. Two jet. What did I miss?
- [62:57]
Matt Leinart
There's something. Two jet. Girl.
- [62:59]
Scott Porter
X curl. Two jet.
- [63:00]
Matt Leinart
Halfback Burst, half back.
- [63:02]
Scott Porter
Burst two half back burst near right, slot. Two jet. X curl. Slot.
- [63:09]
Bruce Feldman
What?
- [63:09]
Matt Leinart
Hug, near right, slot. So you always do the. You always do the formation first?
- [63:13]
Scott Porter
Yes.
- [63:14]
Matt Leinart
Hug is hug. Just tell hug. Hug slot basically tells the X and the Z. They're hugging in the slot.
- [63:19]
Scott Porter
So they're 100. Yeah.
- [63:21]
Matt Leinart
Near right is fullback. That's Riggins right to the tight end. Hug near right slot. Two jet is the protection. And then you give the play concept. X curl. X curl essentially tells the Z. He's got a skinny pose. The wise probably in that formation. He's probably got some type of cross over to the curl.
- [63:39]
Jerry Ferrara
He made me draw this. Try to. Like he drew. He made me try to draw it up on a board.
- [63:43]
Scott Porter
I'd be better at. I'd be better at drawing it up because I have. I have an understanding of concepts. But you know, Matt, you're talking about, like, you know, this, this would happen like the night before. You find a new team or whatever. But when you're doing television, especially network television, we are 100 getting scenes the night before that we've never seen before. They're coming out, you wake up and you go to bed having learned a scene. You wake up, you know, you say you go to bed at 10:30, 11:45pm While you're sleeping, new scene comes out, new pages. And one time I was doing a show called Scorpion for cbs. And they move very fast. And it's a. It was a procedural in a way. It was, you know, it was national security geniuses who all were working together to save the world, basically. And I was playing a former Navy SEAL with a medical background who took shrapnels back and couldn't be a SEAL anymore. So he joins this team of geniuses and we're doing a episode set in Vietnam. And they didn't realize they needed somebody to be able to translate to Vietnamese. I get a phone call at 4:45pm the day before we shoot the scene. Hey, Scott, we've got two and a half pages of Vietnamese. We need you to learn tonight to do on camera tomorrow.
- [64:55]
Jerry Ferrara
So, Vietnamese, easy language. I got.
- [64:58]
Scott Porter
The first scene was about three quarters of a page, right? Which is like maybe four lines. I got that one memorized. You know, they sent me the script, and then they sent me somebody who, you know, was fluent in Vietnamese on a recording that I was just trying to listen to and just learn the audio cue. But for the second scene, I was like, ah, screw this. I wrote it out phonetically and taped it to the dude's chest that I was working against.
- [65:24]
Matt Leinart
People up. People do that. I mean, look, what a party trick. I've never heard that.
- [65:30]
Scott Porter
Well, I'm sure, though, but. But I'm sure there are tricks in the huddle. Like if you get put into service and you're not fully up on something, like if you're just joining a team or whatever, right? You kind of go rogue and be like, hey, we're doing this to.
- [65:41]
Bruce Feldman
No, the.
- [65:41]
Matt Leinart
What. Who goes rogue are the receivers that they. Matt, what I got on that. Matt, just throw it up deep. I'm gonna go get it.
- [65:46]
Jerry Ferrara
Throw it up.
- [65:47]
Matt Leinart
Let Larry Fitzgerald used to do that, who I consider one of the best of all time. He'd be like, sometimes, like. Like, hey, what if I got backside on that, man? You got to come back. Hey, Matt, just throw it up here. Let's go get this. Like, I. You know, sometimes it's better.
- [65:59]
Jerry Ferrara
Sounds good.
- [66:00]
Matt Leinart
Backyard football, man. I'm like. I'm like, bro.
- [66:02]
Scott Porter
Okay, that's it, man. We all got to go.
- [66:03]
Matt Leinart
I love it, man. Yeah. Hell, yeah. That's wild. I didn't know you guys read that off that.
- [66:08]
Scott Porter
I mean, you asked me to learn another language in less than 10 hours. I'm gonna have to do something.
- [66:15]
Jerry Ferrara
You know what else I love? Scott. We had, you know, every time we get our guest on, like, Matt's wife asks, like, who's coming on this week? My wife, my sister in law. That you for sure. So far, to date, of our 15 episodes have gotten the most reaction because Matt's wife wanted to jump on because she loved Dude.
- [66:35]
Matt Leinart
She's a dog.
- [66:35]
Jerry Ferrara
My wife and sister in law are trying to get Ginny and Georgia information from me, which I'm like, I'm not going to ask him. Number one, the show comes out this year. Did they announce the month? Is it March, April, or just sometimes 20, 25. Virginia and Georgia. I mean, we don't know yet.
- [66:50]
Scott Porter
I keep hearing the words late spring, early summer. That's.
- [66:54]
Jerry Ferrara
But it's already picked up for season four, right?
- [66:56]
Scott Porter
Yes. We got picked up after season two. It took them.
- [66:59]
Jerry Ferrara
Amazing.
- [67:01]
Scott Porter
So, man, working for the vote is confidence. Yeah. I mean, working for Netflix is crazy though because everything is algorithm based and they have their own schedule. So usually a show comes out, they look at 28 days of data and decide if you're worth it. Right. It is just, it's that quick. And you know, that's, that's, that's another thing that's like with sports now, like the analytics, like it is the same in the film industry now. It's not feel anymore. It's not like, oh, this dude's making art. We love this. Let's support this. Or this guy. We know he's a player, he can do this. No, it's analytics are driving everything. So they look at their analytics.
- [67:35]
Matt Leinart
Crazy, right?
- [67:36]
Scott Porter
For four, for four weeks. That's it. And then they're like, this show's going to be worth it or not. And then they, they either cancel you or they continue. But after the second season at Jenny and Georgia, we knew something was up because we didn't get a call four weeks later. They waited five months before they gave us a call.
- [67:52]
Jerry Ferrara
That's like old school HBO shit. That's what HBO used to do back in the day.
- [67:56]
Bruce Feldman
Right?
- [67:57]
Scott Porter
Because, and that's. But they took care with all their shows, so we feel very fortunate. It felt like Netflix actually put some thought and some care into us. And then that May, they announced that not only were we coming back for season three, we're also going to be coming back for a season, season four. So it was cool to get the back to back pickup. It's a very rare thing these days, so super honored. Yeah, we shot season three this past summer into September. So we, you know, we're wrapped, they're doing post right now and, and editing and getting everything together. And our creator, Sarah Lampert is just super hands on with all that stuff. So she's taking her time making sure that it's right for all the fans out there. And then, yeah, we'll go back next year to film season four. So, so super excited about it.
- [68:38]
Jerry Ferrara
It's the closest thing that actors get to like guaranteed contracts because we get these five or seven year deals, but it's still, every year is a contract year. So to, to get like, hey, your season three hasn't even dropped, but we're already, you're already greenlit for season four. That to me is the biggest vote of confidence and I've never had that in my career. I've always sweated out every single pickup.
- [69:02]
Matt Leinart
We got. We got throwbacks now, baby. We got throwbacks.
- [69:04]
Jerry Ferrara
Yes, we got throwbacks.
- [69:06]
Matt Leinart
So I so well go back to my wife really quick. So yesterday, I'm like, hey, babe, we got. What's your favorite show of all time? No joke. She goes, Friday Night Lights. I go, well, I. We have Scott coming on from it. And she goes, she goes, she goes, who? I go, jason Street. And she goes, shut the up. And she literally, I swear to God, she literally stormed in the room. She goes, shut the up. Because she also loves, like, Kyle Chandler is like, one of her favorite people.
- [69:36]
Jerry Ferrara
She was in our production meeting yesterday.
- [69:37]
Matt Leinart
So she came in. She. I, I actually, I was missing a doctor. We're like eight months pregnant. So I was missing a doctor's appointment. And I wanted her to come in. I wanted to embarrass the hell out of her, but she's not here. But she wanted me to tell you hello. And she's a big fan. Yeah, I'm like, I'm sitting here thinking, because I was talking to Jerry. I'm like, okay, Friday Night Lights, obviously, Jenny and Georgia has been a hit. And congrats on getting picked up. Up. And then you. You do a ton of voiceover work.
- [70:04]
Jerry Ferrara
Oh, that's my favorite part of it.
- [70:05]
Matt Leinart
Yeah. Like, well, then it's like the Madden Cult. Is it Cult Cruise, Right? I remember, like, you're building up, like. And then Tarzan. Off Broadway, but almost Tarzan. You did the mass singer. Like, dude, like, you're like, it's unbelievable. All, like, the versatility and everything that you've done. If you, like, I know obviously you love acting, but if you, like, there's so many different pots. It's like you have so many different, different talents. Like, is there something that you love to do them? Like, voiceover? Like, my, My wife did voiceover work. She was an actress. Like, she loves that.
- [70:35]
Jerry Ferrara
Like, Scott is in the game of the Marvel rivals. It's the game right now. I cannot wait to play it. It's the most straight. It's the game, everybody. The game out right now.
- [70:48]
Matt Leinart
You have, like, an incredible resume, dude. It is incredible.
- [70:51]
Scott Porter
Oh, thanks, man. No, you know, here's my thing is, you know, I think I spoke to it earlier a little bit. Like, the way I approach the business, I'm not sure how, how everybody does, but I didn't go to school for any of this.
- [71:02]
Bruce Feldman
Right?
- [71:02]
Scott Porter
Like, I didn't go. I didn't, I didn't really go to college. Like, I was, you know, I went to University of Central Florida for about a year and a half, and then I left and just started performing and I was on stages. So I learned, you know, on stage traveling. I lived in Tokyo for a year, Mexico City for a year, opened up for Carrot Top for six months in Vegas. Beatboxing. Like, I've, I just, I learned very early, like, as versatile as you can be, like, you're always going to have a. Somewhere in the industry. And, you know, not having any classical training means I wasn't coached up on how to approach everything, like, you know, like a professional quote, unquote. So I was always just, you know, hustling. And I keep that hustle with me still to this day. So when other opportunities come up, I go. And the interesting thing is, is when I started in this business about 20 years ago, people told you you had to pick a lane. Yeah, you have to be a television actor or you have to try and be a film actor, because filmmakers don't like television actors. They, they don't think you're going to be great for the, like, you know, you had to pick a lane. Now we got Meryl Streep on a half hour on Hulu. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's, it's crazy now. So multi hyphenate is now the new thing. I mean, we're doing a podcast right now. Like, this is awesome. Like, to see Jerry Crazy. Might see him with you, Matt. Like, so I just have tried to stay as fluid and as open as possible and haven't been afraid to say yes for a long time. So I've end up ended up doing a lot of different things. And that's the real. That's the really cool thing about the industry now is it accepts that. It used to not accept that, but now it does. So. But what's your wife's name?
- [72:41]
Matt Leinart
Matt.
- [72:41]
Scott Porter
I was just gonna give her a shout out. I know she couldn't be here.
- [72:43]
Matt Leinart
Oh, give her a shout out, please. Give her a shout out.
- [72:46]
Scott Porter
Josie forever. Texas forever. Congrats on the new little one. Clear asshole hearts. Can't lose 100%. Just want to give her a shout out. Man, that's. That's so cool.
- [72:56]
Matt Leinart
Can you end this with beatboxing, please? Can we get a beatbox or you?
- [72:59]
Scott Porter
Everybody always for the beatbox.
- [73:01]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, they do.
- [73:03]
Scott Porter
So I used to be in an acapella group. They're called Voiceplay. You can find them online.
- [73:07]
Jerry Ferrara
Hell yeah.
- [73:07]
Scott Porter
I'm a big gamer. So the last thing I did with them was the Halo theme song. We did it all but just voices. So if anybody out there is, by.
- [73:15]
Matt Leinart
The way, top three game of all time. It's my top three game of all time.
- [73:17]
Scott Porter
Yo, I almost wore my master chief ugly Christmas sweater today.
- [73:21]
Bruce Feldman
Today.
- [73:21]
Scott Porter
Because I was like. But because Jerry, because you're in Cleveland. I told you. I know that town. I love that town. I got the Great Lakes.
- [73:27]
Jerry Ferrara
Great Lakes, baby.
- [73:28]
Scott Porter
Great Lakes Christmas sale. One of the greatest beers on earth, man. They release it in a limited quantity and like people bum rush places trying to get Christmas sale. You got it. If you don't get it by the beginning of November, you're too late. Like, you'll never get any. So my cousin always picks them up because he lives in Cleveland now. So he always.
- [73:45]
Jerry Ferrara
Right, I gotta meet up with him and get and drink some.
- [73:47]
Scott Porter
Yeah, man. But if anybody wants to check out some beatboxing acapella stuff that I've been in, you go to YouTube, check out voice Play. They are incredible. But. But yeah, man, I came up beatboxing on street corners. Everybody say.
- [74:27]
Jerry Ferrara
Damn Porter.
- [74:28]
Scott Porter
There we go.
- [74:29]
Matt Leinart
Dude, are you kidding?
- [74:30]
Jerry Ferrara
That's the greatest. I love how you golf ever.
- [74:32]
Matt Leinart
You just started talking. You're like, yeah, man.
- [74:35]
Scott Porter
I could do like electric electric guitar with my voice. That's how I got my start in the industry. Michael Winslow for a little while from Police Academy. Big, extra big shout out to him. You know, it was just, it was a cool thing.
- [74:47]
Matt Leinart
Maybe we'll change our theme song to that. That was all right.
- [74:51]
Jerry Ferrara
True, true. Lasting.
- [74:52]
Scott Porter
You're. You're.
- [74:53]
Jerry Ferrara
You're the voice of Star Lord in Marvel Rivals the Game. I'm gonna binge like crazy. But do you. So you play, do you main Star Lord? Do you actually play with your own character? Who you voice?
- [75:04]
Scott Porter
Is that the first. It was the first character I picked up. I've been a gamer for a very, very long time. The whole reason I'm a voiceover actor is because I would go to E3 and just, you know, get hands on with people's games and then I would just say the words, hey, I'm a fan of what you do. And then one time one of the guys that was working was like, I'm a fan of what you do. Friday Night Lights. He's like, let's work together. And that's how I got my start in the industry. And I've just, you know, I still, I audition for stuff like Heimdall, God of War. That was an audition. Like I'm, you know, I auditioned for games. Like I auditioned for film and TV stuff. But yeah, when rivals dropped, I was 100% in on Star Lord first. Now I've got, you know, because the way the game is built, you have to have multiple classes that you can play as so that you have a good team comp. So Star Lord, Adam, Warlock, and Magneto, those are the three that I kind of focused on. So those are the three I play with right now. And I'll branch out and learn some other ones. But yeah, you'll catch me. You'll catch me with some MVPs every now and then. Just that.
- [76:06]
Jerry Ferrara
I cannot wait, man.
- [76:07]
Scott Porter
Just had a big one last night.
- [76:08]
Jerry Ferrara
I cannot. I cannot wait to play it.
- [76:10]
Matt Leinart
You're the man, dude.
- [76:11]
Jerry Ferrara
This is Scott. Thank you. You got to come back because there's about another. We need another hour at least, but enjoy the holidays, man.
- [76:17]
Scott Porter
Yo, I would love to come back, y'all. I. We got.
- [76:19]
Jerry Ferrara
We would love. Seriously, we have.
- [76:21]
Matt Leinart
Yes, man.
- [76:21]
Jerry Ferrara
We haven't even scratched the surface. So I'll be in touch. Enjoy. But thank you, man. That was awesome.
- [76:26]
Matt Leinart
Thanks, Scott.
- [76:27]
Jerry Ferrara
Congrats on everything.
- [76:28]
Scott Porter
Take it easy.
- [76:32]
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- [78:23]
Jerry Ferrara
All right, it's time for Money Moments presented by our good friends over at Cash App. Spending, saving, sending, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting, or just type in numbers, all with the number one finance app in the App Store. That's money. That's Cash App. Matt, who do you have this week for your money moment?
- [78:44]
Matt Leinart
Well, it's only fitting to acknowledge our newest Heisman Trophy winner and Travis Hunter. Right. The last weekend, excuse me, last weekend was the Heisman ceremony. It was him and Ash and Genti and Dylan Gabriel, Cam Ward. And by no surprise, Travis Hunter took home the award. Much deserving. Ashton Genti, much deserving. Great. I think the closest total since 2009. It was like a couple hundred votes, which was crazy. So a pretty great race there. But one just moment of him winning and him talking to his dad in the speech and that. And I remember giving my, like, like, it's just a moment there where you just have a chance to, like, reflect on how you got there. Right. And everybody has a different upbringing and been through different stuff in their life. And like, I just remember for me, it was like my family, my family, my family. And for Travis to watch it. And I got teary. I thinking, like, his dad wasn't there. But then you saw the videos come out this week, like his dad watching them. It's just really, really a powerful moment. And then on top of that, to make matters even better and to just say, like, if you didn't already like Travis Hunter, he comes out. I think Deion Sanders Jr. Was on the podcast this week and he was talking about Travis Hunter and the fact that he takes no money from Colorado's NIL collective. I'm sure he has some deals and I know he has a couple deals in there. He pays for NI deals for about 10 to 15 of his team teammates. Basically just takes care of his teammates. And it was also reported that he flew 50 plus staff and teammates to the Heisman ceremony last weekend in New York. It's just like, it's like he just gets it, man. Like, he's not only one of the most talented athletes we've seen, because I know you've seen him play basketball for like he's just an incredible athlete. He's obviously a great human being. So shout out. That's my money moment. He's an incredible human, incredible player. I cannot wait to watch him at the next level.
- [80:39]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah, that, that story really stuck out to me too. And I agree. That is definitely the cash app money moment of the week. I, I also want to point out how much if you're an NFL team, of course the, it all comes down to the physical ability. But when you look at something like that, what he's doing with his nil money, that's gotta make you feel good about who you're drafting as the person.
- [81:02]
Matt Leinart
A high character guy, right? Like a lot of you hear all the stories like draft process, you really vet players because you're in vet, you're going to invest millions of dollars quarterback, any position, history, background, family, how they were brought up, you know, how many friends they have. Like, like, like we kind of, we joked about draft day, the movie a couple times. Remember in draft day, they really like, it was all about like, well, how come none of his teammates went to his 21st birthday party? Like, that was, that was the whole.
- [81:24]
Jerry Ferrara
Plot of the movie.
- [81:25]
Matt Leinart
That was the whole plot. But, but there is truth that, that people really want to know what type of person you are. And Travis Hunter is as good as it gets and whether he plays both sides. He even came out this week, said, I'm, I plan on playing both sides. I'm not going to be shocked, dude, if the guy tries, like, why not give him an opportunity? But he's a hell of a player. He's an even better young man. And wherever he goes in the top five, that team is getting just a standup dude and a great.
- [81:51]
Jerry Ferrara
Wouldn't that be crazy though, if it went Shador.
- [81:53]
Matt Leinart
1 Travis 2 It's possible.
- [81:57]
Jerry Ferrara
Like, how many times does that happen in the, in the draft? How many times have we seen first and second picks from the same team?
- [82:05]
Matt Leinart
I don't know. I'm sure there might be. There might be.
- [82:08]
Jerry Ferrara
I don't know if anyone I was.
- [82:09]
Matt Leinart
Actually going to say, how about, how about sidebar? Maybe your money moment could have been Shador Sanders thrown in. Malik neighbors, you know, you saw that in the sense of New York. I don't know. Are we manifesting it?
- [82:19]
Jerry Ferrara
I am not making that my money moment because I, I, I, I don't for me, manifesting it is don't say it out loud. I have too much reverse jinx in me.
- [82:29]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, not the same way.
- [82:31]
Jerry Ferrara
It was a good sign.
- [82:32]
Matt Leinart
But he's going number one. He's going number one. So whether that's. Whether that's New York or whether someone trades up or where he refuses to.
- [82:39]
Jerry Ferrara
I can tell you what. The Giants aren't winning the game the rest of the year, so the Raider, if the Raiders want it, the Raiders are gonna have.
- [82:44]
Matt Leinart
I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure he's. We're gonna see him in the silver and black. Black, but.
- [82:48]
Jerry Ferrara
Which would be cool, but, yeah. I don't know, Andrew, I don't know if you could see it. Have two teammates ever gone 1 and 2 in the NFL draft. And if I'm just, like, blanking might be fun. So we'll get that for you hopefully before the end of the show.
- [83:01]
Matt Leinart
But now it is in Alabama, maybe. I don't know.
- [83:03]
Jerry Ferrara
Right. All right, now it is time for our throwback three, which is basically motivated by having Scott Porter on the show today. So, Matt, we're gonna go throwback three fictional quarterbacks. Not as many as you might think. There is a good list. So I'm curious to hear some of yours, and my criteria might be a little different than yours. I'm.
- [83:23]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, like, I was looking this up, and I'm like, there's some great ones. There's not a lot of depth to this. I, I. Unless you go real deep and you're like, like, for me, it didn't mean anything on some of these guys. This was actually a real person. So fictional or not, but whatever. I'm going. I am going. Ronnie Sunshine Bass. I'm not thrilled with this one. This one was tough because I had Willie Beeman and Jamie Fox from Any Given Sunday. He was great, great movie. Remember the Titans? One of my favorite movies. One of my favorite sports movies of all time. I think it's iconic. Obviously, we were talking about, like, the cast. Like, you got Denzel as. As Herman Boone. You got a young Ryan Gosling getting torched outside and getting benched. But Ronnie Bass comes in from California. He has like the, you know, like the kind of, like the kissing scene in the locker room where he's trying. Like, there's a lot of racial tension back then in that era, and that was, like, the real story behind all that. He's like this white kid with long blonde hair, comes in and kind of kind of relieves some of that tension by doing that stuff. So pretty incredible history. Ronnie Bass for that team. But he was also a great character in the show, man. In the movie. So I'm going with Ronnie Bass. Yes.
- [84:34]
Jerry Ferrara
My greatest My favorite tweet ever is written about that movie. I, I wish I knew who tweeted this because he, they deserve all the credit. But I, I think right after like Ryan Gosling officially blew up to giant movie star status, someone tweeted, look very happy for Ryan Gosling. He's awesome. But let's not forget for one second that he was an absolute. Remember the Titans. It's one of my favorite tweets of all time. I stumble upon it from time to time and I laugh my ass off. That's a great one. My criteria, Matt is a little different. I went for acting and also just who to me who looks like a quarterback. You're going to hate this because we actually don't really see much of his physical. The physical I saw looked good. I'm going Varsity Blues. Blues. I'm not going Johnny Moxon.
- [85:28]
Matt Leinart
I'm going Lance Harbor.
- [85:30]
Jerry Ferrara
Paul Walker as Lance harbor in Varsity Blues talk like when he comes out of the house. And I guess in Texas they really do put your billboard and your picture outside your home with those blue eyes and that blonde hair. That dude to me looked like what you should make a movie quarterback look like. And I thought a really great performance. And I, I think Varsity Blues is a sneaky good football movie. So that's my number three, Lance Harbor.
- [85:57]
Matt Leinart
So that's perfect because that segues me in. Number two with Johnny Mox.
- [86:00]
Jerry Ferrara
Johnny Mox.
- [86:01]
Matt Leinart
Okay, make the case and listen. Life is all about opportunity. And Lance harbor goes down in this show and Johnny Mox, the backup quarterback who's kind of a nerd, all he does is read books on the sideline. He gets an opportunity. And by the way, way, we wouldn't have got the whipped cream bikini scene if it weren't for Lance harbor going down.
- [86:23]
Jerry Ferrara
Great case.
- [86:24]
Matt Leinart
Okay. One of the best iconic scenes in that era of movies. When I was a young buck. Okay. We love that scene. Also, this is just off the field also. We're in the classroom and some of the greatest one liners. When he's talking to his teacher, when he, they're talking about sex ed, by the way, his teachers are stripped tripper in that town. And he talks about, they're talking about getting an erection. You remember that? And he starts go. Throwing all the names. The purple headed yogurt slinger.
- [86:55]
Jerry Ferrara
Yep.
- [86:55]
Matt Leinart
Pinching a tent, sporting a wood. And then he goes, oh my all time personal favorite, Pedro, I think you.
- [87:04]
Jerry Ferrara
Made such a compelling case right there. That's by the way, your number one. What a great number one bikini you just killed it.
- [87:09]
Matt Leinart
You killed it. It doesn't happen without Johnny Mox. It. But then on the field, by the way, also save Billy Bob's life. Save Wendell's life from getting the shot at the end when the old coach was trying to shoot up everybody and then goes on and wins to the. Was it the hook and ladder when he does Hook and ladder to Billy Bob? Tweeter. Tweeter.
- [87:33]
Jerry Ferrara
We used to call my shout out Scotty Khan. My boy.
- [87:36]
Matt Leinart
That's a great. That's a great. We gotta get. Great. That's exciting.
- [87:38]
Jerry Ferrara
He'll come on. We always joke around, like, we should do, like, some kind of skit turtle. My boy character.
- [87:44]
Matt Leinart
Oh, yeah, my boy. My. My receiver. One of my college receivers. We used to call him Tweeter because he was just a short white receiver. Kind of look like Tweeter.
- [87:52]
Jerry Ferrara
What a great case for Mox. And you just made.
- [87:54]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, Moxon. I mean, Moxin, I think he ends up going to Brown.
- [87:57]
Jerry Ferrara
Like, goes to Brown. He stays with his high school girlfriend.
- [88:00]
Matt Leinart
High school girlfriend. He could have been one. I'm proud of my number one, but Johnny Mox gets number two for me.
- [88:08]
Jerry Ferrara
All right, well, my number two. It's steaming. Willie beaming.
- [88:14]
Matt Leinart
I, I, I, I, It's. No, it's good. It's good.
- [88:17]
Jerry Ferrara
And I even tried making the case for Dennis Quaid in that movie as Cat Rooney. He had the neck problems he wanted to play. He was a gamer. Didn't quite do it. But just in terms of, again, who looks like a quarterback and kind of had all the, you know, he's making music videos, stuff like that. Like, he was a content creator as well. Willie Beeman was a content creator.
- [88:40]
Matt Leinart
He would fit perfect in this.
- [88:41]
Jerry Ferrara
This as well. It's just one of my favorite performances that famously, that fight scene with him and LL Cool J's character was actually a real fight. And I encourage anyone to. Jamie Foxx's new Netflix special is tremendous. It's emotional. He talks about everything with the stroke. It's really, really good. So Steam. Beeman. Willie Beeman.
- [89:01]
Matt Leinart
I like that one. He. He was. Honestly, he was my third with Ronnie Bass, but. All right, I hope we don't have the first one here, because I know you love this movie and you've already talked about a character in this movie named Latimer, but I don't have.
- [89:15]
Jerry Ferrara
It's not my number one.
- [89:15]
Matt Leinart
All right, good. I'm going with Joe Kane from the program, and I tell you what. Varsity Blues, Blue Chips, the program, that era of sports actually before we even get into this, you know what other sport movies came out that year of the program? The Sandlot, oh, what a Rudy and Cool Runnings. This is what the program went up against. And the program is one of the best football movies of all time. Joe Kane ripping darts, riding motorcycles. Okay, this is what I thought quarterbacks were like, wearing the leather jacket it. Picking up the hot chick in the back, driving her through, making her scared on the motorcycle. Heisman candidate, alcohol problem. Joe Kane is. The movie is great. If you haven't seen the movie, go watch the movie. It's awesome. Joe Kane is a stud in that movie. And then this is where it gets cool. So I was, I was reading a Deep Dive on this and I came across like this thread of all the actors and the director and basically talking about the casting and just like where they pulled players from. These are, these are real players they were pulling from, like, I think Joe Kane's character was based off a Penn State quarterback that backed up Kerry Collins at the time. It was like they pulled all these little stories from these people. So the director, I don't know his name, but the director was saying he originally wanted Johnny Depp to play Joe Kane because. Johnny Depp. Yeah, because Johnny Depp was on 21st jump or 21 jump street at that time, right? Which he was like this young, charismatic. This was his quote. He's like, he was young, charismatic. He was like, I think, I think that kid is going to be a star. That's what he thought about Johnny Depp at the time. But he didn't, he obviously didn't get. So Craig Sheffer is a name who played Joe Kane. He's actor. He comes in and his audition. And this is what you like about actually looking the part. He said he auditioned, he threw a football, I think on the lot. I think he's like the Disney lot or where they. He said he threw the ball about 60 yards and he's like, I just threw the ball because I could throw. And the director's like, okay, I think we got him. And that's sort of like, that's what I read, sort of how Joe Kane became Joe Kane and that's how he got the role, which I think was fascinating. So Joe Kane's my number one man, like all time movie, all time character.
- [91:35]
Jerry Ferrara
I'm with you. I didn't, I didn't put him in just because I, I don't. I love that movie so much. But let me just say, day after that, awesome reporting by you right there, we are all robbed from watching Johnny Depp throw a football on screen. We are robbed of seeing. Because I love Johnny Depp's performances. There is no.
- [91:56]
Matt Leinart
By the way, he's a big Dolphins fan. Really big Dolphins fan.
- [92:00]
Jerry Ferrara
Really?
- [92:00]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, I know. I know him a little bit.
- [92:03]
Jerry Ferrara
I've never heard Johnny Depp speak about sports in any capacity ever. He's never played any kind of an athlete. Athlete ever. I. And I'm probably wrong. I bet you he could throw a football. But I. I would bet money that I could throw a football farther than Johnny Depp.
- [92:17]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, for sure. Who's your number one? I love. I. I have a. I think I have a guess.
- [92:24]
Jerry Ferrara
Go ahead, guess it.
- [92:25]
Matt Leinart
What? I don't want to guess it.
- [92:27]
Jerry Ferrara
Well, I want to hear some funny honor. Honorable mentions. Okay.
- [92:30]
Matt Leinart
Yeah. Let's see.
- [92:31]
Jerry Ferrara
I love again looking the part. Jerry O'Connell as Kush and Jerry Maguire. Sneaky, good. Never saw him do anything athletic. I just didn't see it. I thought that was a really, really cool one. I almost gave love to the program for Tim. He could go all the wayman. That dude. That must have been a real quarterback. He looked like. And also Johnny Utah in Point Break. Keanu Reeves.
- [92:54]
Matt Leinart
Utah. Give me two. One of the most famous lines ever was a quarterback.
- [92:58]
Jerry Ferrara
But my number one is in fact Keanu Reeves in the Replacements. He just looks like a quarterback.
- [93:06]
Matt Leinart
I just.
- [93:07]
Jerry Ferrara
I buy it all.
- [93:09]
Matt Leinart
The movie.
- [93:10]
Jerry Ferrara
The movie is, I think, good. Not great, but I think it's aged well. Good performance from Gene Hackman, John Farville, really funny as well. I'm gonna re. Watch it because I haven't rewatched.
- [93:19]
Matt Leinart
By the way, I love the cheerleader. She was super hot in that movie.
- [93:22]
Jerry Ferrara
Brooke Langdon. I believe so. I just. If you're giving me a guy and I think, wasn't he lefty? Was it Keanu left?
- [93:29]
Matt Leinart
He's lefty.
- [93:30]
Bruce Feldman
He looked.
- [93:30]
Matt Leinart
He was good.
- [93:31]
Jerry Ferrara
Just movie.
- [93:31]
Matt Leinart
By the way.
- [93:32]
Jerry Ferrara
Scott Mitchell or something.
- [93:35]
Matt Leinart
Steve Young.
- [93:35]
Jerry Ferrara
That was like his double, probably.
- [93:38]
Matt Leinart
How about. Do you remember the movie Lucas?
- [93:41]
Jerry Ferrara
Of course.
- [93:41]
Matt Leinart
Charlie Sheen.
- [93:43]
Jerry Ferrara
Yeah.
- [93:43]
Matt Leinart
Charlie Sheen played the quarterback in Lucas. I think. Am I wrong on that? I think.
- [93:48]
Jerry Ferrara
No, you're right. Quarterback. And Rudy.
- [93:51]
Matt Leinart
And Rudy. I know. And then the other one, Brendan Frazier and School Ties.
- [93:56]
Jerry Ferrara
Brendan Frazier in School Time.
- [93:58]
Matt Leinart
I thought you were going to go. It's kind of. It's. It's kind of unoriginal. But Paul Crew in the Longest Yard. See, and I like. I love. Yeah, but you could have also done like all of the movies with Burt Reynolds and then you got. I love the Longest Yard with Adam Sandler. I thought that was a great movie.
- [94:15]
Jerry Ferrara
No, I'm standing by. But please, again, I like it.
- [94:17]
Matt Leinart
Shave Falco is great.
- [94:18]
Jerry Ferrara
Hit us on socials at throwbacks. Subscribe to us on YouTube too. But also give us a throwback.
- [94:23]
Matt Leinart
3. Who do we miss?
- [94:24]
Jerry Ferrara
Miss? Make the case. Most importantly, make the case. Matt, I thought you laid out one of the best cases for Moxin. And also, quick update from our amazing producer, Andrew Gundling. The last one and two picks to go in the same draft, most recent was number one, Courtney Brown, and number two, LaVar Arrington from Penn State. And then I think you go all the way back to 1967. Bubba Smith and Clint Jones, Michigan State. So? So I don't know if we'll see it. It's in play, that's for sure. So enjoy the weekend, Matt. Enjoy one of the greatest trips known to me.
- [95:01]
Matt Leinart
I'll see you Saturday.
- [95:03]
Jerry Ferrara
Maybe I'll see you Saturday. And what a trip.
- [95:07]
Matt Leinart
Come on, bro.
- [95:08]
Jerry Ferrara
What? Thanks, everyone.