← Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
NFL Training Camp Memories, Great Comedy Sequels & the Entourage Pilot
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- [00:00]
Matt Leinart
I was just picturing you in a, in a crisis and just how panicky you would be.
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Maddie Ice
Oh, see, you got me all wrong. No liner little things will drive me absolutely crazy. If I like went outside and my car got stolen, I'd be like, wow, that's crazy. I wouldn't care. But if I went out and there was like a weird little scratch, I would freak out.
- [00:18]
Matt Leinart
A little wound tight is how I would describe you.
- [00:21]
Maddie Ice
It's not fun, dude. It's not fun.
- [00:32]
Matt Leinart
Foreign.
- [00:37]
Maddie Ice
We are back everybody. Another episode of Throwbacks. Me, Maddie, Ice. How you doing, buddy?
- [00:43]
Matt Leinart
I'm good, buddy. How are you, man? You recovered from last week?
- [00:46]
Maddie Ice
Well, first off, I'm answering incoming emails and texts still about the Josh Richmond episode. I just got an email from a high ranking studio executive that's like, I can't believe you had Josh Richmond on that Brought back, He's like, that just brought me back in to maybe even a better day. And yeah, I hope you all enjoyed that. I love that episode.
- [01:10]
Matt Leinart
I hope everyone who listens just like, especially if they've kind of been on that journey that we were on, at least experienced like Hollywood in its best era. And, and not just because of Josh, just because that was pre social media, pre phones and like you could really let loose and kind of do your thing. But he is like, I, I, I don't know how to describe him because he's one of one, right? He's just one of a kind. His stories, his path to that point. Like what? Like, it's just, he was phenomenal, man. It was, I mean we could have.
- [01:40]
Maddie Ice
Talked hours and, and look, he's a truth teller. He texted us. He's like, just heard from Keanu about the episode. Like, wait a minute, you telling me Keanu Reeves, you know, he throwback, you.
- [01:51]
Matt Leinart
Know, he sent that to Keanu. He probably sent it to Robert Downey Jr. He probably sent it to Depp. I mean, and that's the thing. Those are his three best friends.
- [02:00]
Maddie Ice
Keanu loved the episode. Now I'm like freaking because Keanu Reeves is my guy. That's like my dude. I respect the hell out of that guy. He's one of my favorite actors.
- [02:08]
Matt Leinart
Dude, I didn't, I, I took, I don't even know we talked about this. Keanu, I was with Josh one day. Cole was probably 4 or 5 or 6. He's probably around that time we went to Keanu's house and went swimming because we were up in the hills and I was like, you know, I had cold that time. I Think I was. I was playing. So I was home. I was like, hey, what should we do? He's like, hey, let's go to Keanu's house and go use the pool. He was even there. I just was at Keanu Reeves house using the pool. Just with me. Cool.
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Maddie Ice
And Josh, if memory serves me in Replacements. I feel like he was a lefty quarterback too.
- [02:37]
Matt Leinart
He was. By the way, he's.
- [02:39]
Maddie Ice
There's this other legend that the Ravens invited him to camp. They liked him so much.
- [02:43]
Matt Leinart
You always talk about actors being athletes in a movie and how bad they looked. He looked pretty good in the replacement.
- [02:50]
Maddie Ice
He looked really. He looked like a quarterback who could sling that thing.
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Matt Leinart
Yeah, the long black hair, good looking dude. Keanu's a G man. Like what a legend.
- [02:57]
Maddie Ice
Well, we just had a good little quick trip. I actually got to see you in person. We went to Indiana, Indianapolis, to where the WNBA all star weekend was. And we, we, we did this fun shoot for Nissan. We'll talk a little bit more about it later. And we got some stuff coming to you content wise. But I got a few takeaways from a road trip to Indianapolis. I drove from Cleveland. It's four hours. Four is now officially my max. Yeah, can't do more than four hours. Stuff starts hurting. I did the game where I just started calling people till people picked up. You were on a plane, so I couldn't even call you. You're like my one.
- [03:33]
Matt Leinart
Like it's a great opportunity to, to get your phone calls out the way. That's for sure.
- [03:37]
Maddie Ice
Mom always picks up. Connolly never picks up. So many of my friends. Brie. 50, 50.
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Matt Leinart
Let me actually, you know what, let me ask you a question. Outside of your mom and your wife, who did you call on the road trip? Like, like did you call an agent? Do you call?
- [03:52]
Maddie Ice
I did connect with Connolly. I said, kevin, I need you to eat up some innings. That's what I sent them a text after, when I. For gas after he, he didn't answer. I'm like, you gotta call me back and eat up some innings on this road trip. My boy Mac, Cincinnati kid, lives in New York, great chef, has a great pizza spot in Brooklyn, Mo General. And yeah, I went like two or three 45 minute calls, an audio and a pod and an audio book and I was done.
- [04:17]
Matt Leinart
So what was your. So. So Indianapolis, that was your first time there?
- [04:22]
Maddie Ice
First time there. And you know, you see it so much, especially with this Knicks ecf, the downtown market square. So I didn't know what I was rolling up To. I know the Midwest pretty well, but I do got to say downtown Indianapolis, good sports city, good layout for sports.
- [04:39]
Matt Leinart
Yeah.
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Maddie Ice
Didn't even realize the speedway was right down there. It was crazy.
- [04:45]
Matt Leinart
We've been there for the Big Ten championship game pretty much every year, and so we're always there in December. It's cold, little snowy. But it's such a cool downtown because you walk everywhere. It's just, it's just, it's just nice. It's like just. It's a nice downtown. It's not one of these downtowns that's kind of, you know, turned to shit. So you walk everywhere. I felt like the WNBA All Star weekend. I. It was. It was pretty big, dude. Like, I was. Yeah, like great town, obviously. Caitlin Clark being there and the fever, even though she didn't play, that obviously makes it bigger. You can. You could. You could feel that. But I was. I was really surprised and kind of like taken back of like how bad, how big it felt. People walking around the square there, the jerseys everywhere, you know, the, the activations. Right. They had the courts everywhere. Yeah, it's just really cool.
- [05:34]
Maddie Ice
Walked into the InterContinental Hotel downtown at the entire. I mean, we All Star weekend was.
- [05:40]
Matt Leinart
We hung out with both All Star teams pretty much all weekend by chance.
- [05:43]
Maddie Ice
And then I remember too, I remember Josh Hart saying in an interview he doesn't like one of his least favorite road stops is Indy. He didn't say why. He just said, I don't really like going to Indy. However, they have maybe one of my favorite restaurants on the road, St. Elmo's, which is a old school steak joint. I was excited to go. We had a big Sinclair team dinner there. We roll in that. And again, half the WNBA was there. And I'm not gonna lie, I. I worked out over some of the players.
- [06:13]
Matt Leinart
Oh, I was gonna say. You didn't. You weren't. You weren't thrilled on St. Elmo. St. Elmo's is fire.
- [06:18]
Maddie Ice
I thought. No, I thought it was great. I thought it was good.
- [06:20]
Matt Leinart
We were sitting there. We saw. I mean, gosh, we saw. Well, I saw Elisa. Leslie actually waved. At least the Leslie, because she's a Trojan. I don't think I've met her a bunch. I don't think she knew it was me because she looked at me kind of.
- [06:31]
Maddie Ice
She knows you. I feel like. Yeah, yeah, no, I think she does.
- [06:33]
Matt Leinart
But she looked at me like, who the is this guy? Like waving at me because I didn't go in because they were in that room. So we saw Sophie Cunningham.
- [06:40]
Maddie Ice
Sophie Cunningham is where I'm basically saying.
- [06:43]
Matt Leinart
She walked by you and you froze up.
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Maddie Ice
You're like, I, like, held the door, and I'm like, damn.
- [06:47]
Matt Leinart
Like, she's. She's pretty. She's cool. Kelsey Plum. We saw everybody. It was. It was freaking cool, man. Like.
- [06:53]
Maddie Ice
And you know what I realized, too? I'm even short.
- [06:55]
Matt Leinart
Well, I was about to say, dude, I felt. I felt short next to all of these ladies who were like. And, you know, they're all wearing heels, and so they're all like, like, Aaliyah Boston. We were with Aaliyah. That's. We shot some content with. Aaliyah's great. I mean, Aaliyah. Six, four, six, five. I. I felt bad for you because when I'm, you know, like, it reminded me, like, honestly, like, when I'm in a huddle, like, all my linemen are, you know, six, six, seven. So I just feel average. I was like, man, Jerry, gotta feel just real short.
- [07:26]
Maddie Ice
The best thing, though, something you will never experience. You'll never experience this. What it's like being in a crowded restaurant like that with a bunch of other rather big, tall people. I can slip out of that place so fast.
- [07:42]
Matt Leinart
You have. You're the king of Houdini. You have no problem slipping out of any place.
- [07:45]
Maddie Ice
No. After you almost murdered Eric Wells with the horseradish at. At.
- [07:51]
Matt Leinart
Well, we're gonna post. We're gonna post that. I, I, I told you about this. Like, so St. Elmo's is great kind of old school steakhouse. Great food, great vibe, energy, everything about it. They're known for, like, their shrimp cocktail with their horseradish. Horseradish sauce. We did that on the show last year. Mark. Me and Mark showed you. The video is hysterical.
- [08:11]
Maddie Ice
Mark, you almost killed Mark on the air.
- [08:13]
Matt Leinart
It's so funny why I have to post these clips, but I did it, and it. And it just. It. You, like, smelling salts will hit you, and you just kind of like this thing. It. It hits you way up to your brain, dude. And Wellesley, tell him.
- [08:26]
Maddie Ice
That's what I thought you did. That was dirty. You didn't tell him. He knows you didn't. You downplayed the. Yeah, that. That stuff was putting people on the floor.
- [08:35]
Matt Leinart
Did you. Did you watch the All Star game?
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Maddie Ice
I did. I watched some of it because, like, you know, I drove back, and then I came right back into fatherhood, so I watched as much as I could. I don't really watch any of the All Star stuff. Like, I wish I could.
- [08:49]
Matt Leinart
That's something That I watched the three point content. It was like, it was, it was cool. Like sh. Look, shout out to wnba. They had a great weekend. It was star studded. Seemed like it was, seemed like it was a lot going on. There's a lot of partying going on. We saw a lot of those clips. They were getting after it.
- [09:04]
Maddie Ice
You did the annoying thing like you texted me when you landed and got to the hotel and you're like, where are you? I'm in the gym. I'm like, great, thanks. But thanks, dude. Thanks for shaming me because you flew three hours to Indie. I drove in and you rushed right to the gym as soon as you didn't.
- [09:19]
Matt Leinart
I didn't rush to the gym. I just went to get a little sweat. I'm one of those guys. I. If I'm on the road in the hotel, I just to get a 30 minute sweat. You said, is the. By the way, your, your comment, like, talk about high maintenance. Your comment was h, how's the gym? Is it night? Well one. Is it nice?
- [09:34]
Maddie Ice
I said, is it empty?
- [09:36]
Matt Leinart
Fair? And you go, is it empty? I'm like, who gives a if it's empty or not?
- [09:40]
Maddie Ice
Meaning, like if I wanted to come hit a treadmill or an elliptical, is there one open or am I going to sit there like an. Like, all right, I'm here while you work out. Like, spotting you.
- [09:50]
Matt Leinart
I was solo by myself.
- [09:52]
Maddie Ice
Do you get any PTSD from this time of year knowing that like camp is opening up and starting to hear these guys, you know, you like, no. You're happy that part of your life is over? The camp part.
- [10:05]
Matt Leinart
The first year that I was out of the league, that I like, I was, you know, I knew I was done. I didn't. I. If I can go back, I don't, I don't really think, like, I wasn't like, I was more just like, like, I think it's done. I didn't really think, like, what's next? I wasn't one of those panicking, right? Like, I just was like, it kind of just was done. And I'm like, well, I'm gonna sleep in. Like, I'm just gonna relax. I probably relaxed for a couple months and then I got the itch of just wanting to do something. I gotta say, that's what I got into TV right away. But I did not miss camp.
- [10:36]
Maddie Ice
All right, we're gonna do some. We're gonna do our Nissan moment. We'll do some best and worst stuff. But are you even hearing anything yet? I mean, I know they're just reporting yet. Is there? Because this is the first year now I'm officially ready for football. I enjoyed the break of basketball. I enjoyed having like the month of July to just hang with the kids and not really think about sports too too much. And now I'm watching the quarterback show and I'm starting to get pulled in a little bit and I'm trying to figure out just where's the surprise team. There's always a team or two that upgrades five or six wins even from the previous year, and they don't have the same repeat playoff team. There's always three or four new playoff teams. I don't really have the feel yet. Do you have any feel for maybe that surprise team that might be lurking? I don't have it yet, no. I gotta think the Bengals are gonna be better. They can't allow.
- [11:31]
Matt Leinart
I think the Bengals are gonna be better. I think, I think the Steelers. I think I, I sucks, though.
- [11:36]
Maddie Ice
I mean, it's. I'm sucking meaning.
- [11:38]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, I'm not like one of those. Oh, Aaron, they got Roger Steelers or not. Like, I just think they're gonna be better. And I think the Chargers are going to be pretty good, dude. I think. I mean, again, they were got. They were in the playoffs last year, right?
- [11:54]
Maddie Ice
Yeah, everyone's very high on the Broncos. That's the stuff I'm starting to hear. There's a lot of Broncos, man.
- [12:00]
Matt Leinart
We still got a little bit of time before camp. I rather. You know what? I see football.
- [12:04]
Maddie Ice
Well, I don't want to say it because this is. I mean, Philly is one of my least favorite teams, but they're really. I, I have a eerie, terrible feeling that Dallas is going to be really good this year. And it, it makes me sick because I enjoy them being bad.
- [12:19]
Matt Leinart
They should be good every year. They got the.
- [12:21]
Maddie Ice
Well, they have a quarterback last year. Dak was out for the whole. You know, missed basically the whole year. So they didn't have a quarterback last year. Now Dax back, new coach, you know, picking how.
- [12:33]
Matt Leinart
Let me ask you. Let me ask you a more important question in regards to fantasy football.
- [12:36]
Maddie Ice
Okay.
- [12:37]
Matt Leinart
How many mock drafts do you do from. Probably. Probably now we're probably getting pretty close till all your drafts happen.
- [12:48]
Maddie Ice
I'll do one in the next, like, week or two just to feel it out. Well, for net meaning, like now I'll do one just like, totally take some flyers. And then as. Once we get into like first week of August, second week of August, I'll definitely do three or four snake ones. And I'll always do. And I'm trying. I want you to partner up with me on this one team. I always do an auction mock draft, which, to me is the most fun, because you can get whatever player you want if you're just willing to pay your budget. So. But, yeah, who's the number one pick of fantasy this year? You got the number one pick.
- [13:21]
Matt Leinart
I don't know, but I'll probably do a hundred drafts between now and.
- [13:24]
Maddie Ice
But you don't know who the consensus number one. If you. Right now, like, hey, you're on the clock.
- [13:29]
Matt Leinart
I think Jamar Chase is kind of consensus. I think Bijan Robinson is up there. I mean, I could pull it up. I think it's. I think it's like, Jamar Bijan. I think Jefferson is still really high.
- [13:40]
Maddie Ice
I feel like CMAC is gonna, once again, like, always swing so many. Yeah, Saquon, obviously. But I feel like CMAC's gonna swing so many things because whoever has the guts to take him wherever he falls to is, and if they get the health luck of it, is then basically gonna have the number one pick at, like, seven or eight.
- [13:57]
Matt Leinart
I've had him almost every year, and when he's playing, he's great.
- [14:02]
Maddie Ice
Did you ever care? So wait, I'm trying to think, because I've been doing fantasy forever.
- [14:08]
Matt Leinart
No, it wasn't.
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Maddie Ice
When you were playing, it wasn't as big of a thing. Like, players didn't even care about it. Maurice Jones. Drew was the first player that I remember to validate fantasy football. He, like, took the knee, famously, at the one, and then apologized to his fantasy owners.
- [14:26]
Matt Leinart
It never. It never really was a thing. I think I remember hearing rumblings about it. Like, not that it was, like, foreign. I just didn't watch. Like, I didn't watch fantasy shows while I was playing football. Like, it just. It was. It wasn't a thing. Like, we. And I don't even know if we were allowed to play fantasy football because you're essentially almost Maybe not. You're, like, betting on. You know what I mean? So, like, I did remember some of the kickers, I think. I think it was in Oakland or it was in Houston that they would. They knew about fantasy football, but it wasn't, like. It just wasn't a thing. And then a handful of years later, like, you, like. It's like knowing the spread, right?
- [14:58]
Maddie Ice
All right.
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Matt Leinart
But we're getting close, bro. We're getting close.
- [15:00]
Maddie Ice
Not only are we getting close, and we spoke about my little road trip to Indy for Nissan that's what we did the spot with with Aaliyah Boston. It's now time to do a little all time adventures driven by Nissan, the 2025 Nissan Pathfinder, rock Creek, which Matt Leiner drove all throughout Indianapolis.
- [15:18]
Matt Leinart
I drove that, I drove that car for about two and a half hours, probably more.
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Maddie Ice
With cameras.
- [15:23]
Matt Leinart
Four hours. Cameras everywhere. I'll tell you what, the rock crate is great.
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Maddie Ice
Well, it is adventure. Ready and free from New Terrace. So I thought that it is. Everyone's reporting the camp. We teased it earlier. What are some of your. Just what are the, some of the worst parts of training camp for an NFL player?
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Matt Leinart
Being in a, being in a city where it's 100 degrees and 100 humidity like Houston, Texas. Training camp is. There's, there's a couple ways to look at it. One, it's exciting because you're back, right? You're back and like, you know, the season's right around the corner and you're back with the fellas and, and you got the locker room and, and you're grinding and all that. Like it, it's, it's, it is, it is fun to be back after a break. It's like even now, like for my job on like I'm, I'm starting to get the itch. Like I can't wait to get back on the road with you guys. Time ball, you know, it's just time. It just, it just, you flip a switch and it's just time to lock in. The, the schedule is, is a lot, dude. It's like the first typically like three weeks of training camp. The first 10, 11 days, maybe a few more are like, are those are your longest days, man? Those are like, gosh, 7:00am to like 9:00 clock at night. All day, double days. And double days are not double days anymore. You can't go back to back pad. You can go pad practice and you go like a glorified walk through in the afternoon. Then the next day is just a full practice, but then meetings after. So like it's, it's definitely not as bad as it used to be. But it's just a grind, man. It's, it's tiring. It's a lot. You're up early, you're weightlifting, you're practicing for three hours, you're going straight to meetings. You get maybe an hour and a half off for lunch or you meet again, whatever you want to do. And then you get, you go back and you tape and you go get ready for the second practice. Then after that you got dinner and then dinner. Then you go into your night meetings. Night meetings are usually like, could be like 7:30 to 9:30 or. Or 8 to 10.
- [17:11]
Maddie Ice
Is that like during dinner or you eat d dinner and go to your night meeting.
- [17:14]
Matt Leinart
You're just, you're just. Dude, you're just constantly. You're just in meetings and practice and eating all day and.
- [17:19]
Maddie Ice
Are you in a dorm or a hotel?
- [17:21]
Matt Leinart
Yeah. So the cool thing for. For Arizona, I think they do it because we didn't have. We didn't have an indoor facility. So we used to go up to Flagstaff, which is about three hours, which about two hours, two and a half hours. But it's. It's elevations in the mountains of snow.
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Maddie Ice
It's cool. Okay.
- [17:37]
Matt Leinart
Oh, man. We would be up there, be 65 in the middle of a forest. It was beautiful. Flag said we'd be at nau Northern Arizona University. So that was dorms. So that was real dorm life. Like, I. I shared a room with Kurt Warner. I remember we shared a room.
- [17:50]
Maddie Ice
You and Kurt were in a room?
- [17:52]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, we shared a dorm.
- [17:53]
Maddie Ice
And like, are your beds cloth? Like you just.
- [17:56]
Matt Leinart
We had our own bedroom, but you have like a common rooms in a common area.
- [18:01]
Maddie Ice
Okay.
- [18:01]
Matt Leinart
And then you go out, so.
- [18:03]
Maddie Ice
Yeah. You're funny. I'm just picturing you guys like, Kurt, I told you, man, put. Put your dishes in the sink. Dude.
- [18:09]
Matt Leinart
Could you imagine like right now, like, Aaron Rodgers is 42 and he's, you know, he's in the dorm. Like, you know he's in the dorm. Yeah.
- [18:16]
Maddie Ice
So, like, if he's at camp, does he go to camp?
- [18:18]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, but that, that part, that part is awesome. But that's just the grind, man. And then Houston, I remember getting to Houston and I was like, it was 30. I think it was 30 consecutive days of a hundred degrees and like 90 humidity. Right. And that was like a record of the time. And I mean, dude, you're. You're literally losing like, weight. Six to ten pounds of practice, of water weight. So, like, I remember we walk off and you'd be guzzling G Gatorades or, you know, you would just be like, boom, boom, boom. Put the weight back on and then you lose it again. And they take care of us. You know, we practice early in the morning to beat the heat. The afternoon. Sometimes we practice outside just to get acclimated to it a little bit. Or we go in the indoor. And then in Oakland. Oakland was dope, though, dude, because Oakland, I don't know if they still. Oh, they're in Vegas now. We used to do it up in Napa, so our Napa was hot as too, but we were doing it at the hotel right there. They built a facility like that. The hotel, the practice facility was right behind the hotel. It was kind of built into the hotel. We would go to like wineries for like our rookie night. Like, it was. It was.
- [19:21]
Maddie Ice
Well, that's what I was gonna ask you. What fun is there to be had at camp? Whatever little off time you get, which is not much. What is it just you would get the same thing.
- [19:30]
Matt Leinart
You'd hear. You'd go, maybe we did like a comedy night. I think in one of them. Maybe there's bowl. We did bowling one night, I think in Houston.
- [19:38]
Maddie Ice
Building kind of stuff.
- [19:39]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, you maybe go to a movie at usc. We went to the avp, the volleyball tournament. Pete would tuck us down to Manhattan beach for the avp. So there's. There's. Or you always hear a little inkling, like it's Monday. And like we would start hearing like, hey, Wednesday. There's no practice. But it wasn't. But it was on the schedules. You start to hear that. Yeah. Like little kids, like, no school, right? So we get fired up. We'd have off day. Like, hey, you're off until. If it's Wednesday morning. Hey, you're off until Friday morning. Go home, do whatever you want. Like, we'd have some of after, like, about.
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Maddie Ice
Would you go like right home, like, leave.
- [20:09]
Matt Leinart
In Arizona. In Arizona, because you're two hours Houston. It was right there at the facility. Yeah. So you just. You just. You just get away, right? So it's. It's a grind, dude. The first couple weeks are grind, and then after that you start to get into preseason. And then that's when like an actual game week is. So you start to.
- [20:28]
Maddie Ice
You start simulate that.
- [20:29]
Matt Leinart
Simulate a game week, you know, the times the meeting. But you go home after practice, right? So it's a grind, man. It definitely is a mental grind. I'd say it's probably the hardest part about the season, just getting through camp, because then once the games are, it's. It's fun, you know?
- [20:42]
Maddie Ice
I feel like I would for sure be the teammate that organizes the video game tournament for the team in off time. Whenever we had a little off you wanted up in Arizona, I would be.
- [20:53]
Matt Leinart
That guy in Arizona, the. We were up in Flagstaff. There's nothing in Flagstaff again. It's really pretty, but there's nothing. All they had was like a Walmart up there, dude. So we would go up to Walmart. And like that would be like our version like, hey, let's go to Walmart today. And like if you had like a couple hours in between practices, you need to go get like, honestly, we go get an Xbox, you go get a fan or you get a pillow, whatever, you know, something you forgot, like Walmart was our place to go in Flagstaff.
- [21:18]
Maddie Ice
Now, did you ever witness any of those crazy camp fights? Anything ever happened in your run?
- [21:23]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, there's always campfights, man. Just because you're tired of playing the same dude. I mean no matter what level, high school, college, pro. It's like once you, when you go ahead, when you go against the same defense, the same guys up front, the same. And there's also a lot of guys that just jaw right, they just talk shit. Regardless, after two weeks it just gets old and just be like, dude, shut the F up, man. Like, you know, shut. And then guys up front, linemen, they're always just getting after it a little bit. And then, yeah, that's. That shit's real though.
- [21:51]
Maddie Ice
And every coach like that.
- [21:53]
Matt Leinart
Well, that's.
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Maddie Ice
I was gonna say every coach probably likes that. And every coach, I got to imagine. I was gonna try to ask you, are there any coaches that may have been harder at camp than others? I feel like every coach during camp is dead serious and working you guys. There's no like easy coaching during camp.
- [22:08]
Matt Leinart
Way out. I think it's sometimes like, like an example of that would be like, like, you know, giving us a night off or like, hey, no meetings tonight, right?
- [22:18]
Maddie Ice
That's the best you could do.
- [22:19]
Matt Leinart
Especially when you're, you're just. Dude, when you get 10, 11 days is just a grind. Like it is what it is. Like you're just, you're just in it. Like you're just going, you're going and you're trying to, you're trying to play cards, you're trying to like, you know, you watch, you get away from it because you're consuming it literally every day. But it is like it's, it's, it's install every day and, and for rookies, it's trying to catch up to all the vets.
- [22:39]
Maddie Ice
And that's why I want a rookies.
- [22:41]
Matt Leinart
More guys are trying to make the roster, you know, so like it's, it's serious.
- [22:44]
Maddie Ice
I feel like there's probably a lot of overeager rookies first camps and just ready to treat it like it's game day from the moment they walk in. Or maybe there's some deer in the headlights Too.
- [22:54]
Matt Leinart
I would say it's more deer in the headlights for sure. Now, at that point, you go through, you know, like, when you're drafted, you go through rookie minicamp, which. Which is like, in May, and that's just rookies, right? So, like, you'll have all your drafted rookies and then your free agents. So it could be anywhere from, like, you know, 10 to 20 players. And then the mandatory minicamp, which is everybody. So the. So you do get a chance. Like, I remember in Arizona. How about this? I'd tell this story so I remember. So rookie mini camp, I'm fine. Then it's team mini camp. And I'm there with everybody, Kurt, everybody. And you're there, and you get three or four days of real practice, like, seven on seven team. All that and then. And then you're pretty much off. I held out for my contract in my year, like, like 10, 12 days into minicamp. So I barely. I didn't even go to rookie minicamp. And my first like. Or our training camp, I was like, a week late because I was holding out. I was like, you know, quarterback. And at my age at the time was Tom Condon, and he got me a great deal.
- [23:50]
Maddie Ice
And people. I don't feel like a lot of players were holding out back then. Right?
- [23:55]
Matt Leinart
There were some guys. There were QBs holding out. Yeah. And I came back probably four days before we played the New England.
- [24:05]
Maddie Ice
How does that feel? Walking in and holding out? But you sign, like, did you feel anything?
- [24:10]
Matt Leinart
No, I think, you know, I was always really well liked and respect, like, I think my teammates. I mean, I would say, like, I think this business. Love. Yeah. But they also. Yeah, it is a bit. They get it. Everyone gets it. And, like, they got to meet me in the summer. They got. I was there. Like, I was always very likable. Got all my teammates. I would say, love. I hung out with everybody. Like, I was always just a great teammate. So, like, going in, they kind of already knew. They knew I wasn't like, this.
- [24:34]
Maddie Ice
Some hot shot, whatever.
- [24:35]
Matt Leinart
They. They just were like, oh, yeah, dude, get yours. Like, you know, you'll be fine, whatever. But I remember coming in and I was like, four days before playing New England, and then they were loaded, you know, like, I remember, like, rest in peace. But it was Junior, Sea, Willie, Mac, Vrabel, Gosh, Abruski. And I can't.
- [24:53]
Maddie Ice
That's. Those are the Pats.
- [24:55]
Matt Leinart
And I balled, dude. I balled in the first game, and I balled in the first game. I ran for, like, 60 yards. I was like, I was running all over the place. I threw a touchdown. It was my first ever game. And then that was the same preseason.
- [25:08]
Maddie Ice
That was your technical. First NFL game was just going off.
- [25:11]
Matt Leinart
Against my first NFL game. Was that my second? I think maybe Denver. My third was at Chicago, which started the whole Denny Green. That's why we're in Chicago. I started that game. And then the fourth.
- [25:23]
Maddie Ice
Knew you were better and you let him off the hook.
- [25:25]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, that's good memories, man. Yeah. But training camp's a grind, bro.
- [25:29]
Maddie Ice
We don't have anything like that really, with acting.
- [25:32]
Matt Leinart
But your days are grinds too, dude. Your days are grinds too. Different grinds, different grind.
- [25:37]
Maddie Ice
Obviously there's like rehearsal time. It's different with the show because when you. When you start a show, you know you're about to go in for like seven, eight months, right? So it's not so much like camp. There's like little rehearsals, table readings. You'll go do wardrobe for 12 hours or they'll fit you for a hundred different outfits. We don't really have anything that simulates what you guys go through. Unless you're doing a movie. Because then when you go off and you do like an indie film, some smaller budget film in Midwest or some small town where you're staying in like a dorm and all you have is each other. You only have each other as entertainment and social life outside you would.
- [26:18]
Matt Leinart
I mean, you were. And maybe it's different because you were a lead on a major show. I. I have a friend who was a lead on a major show. And she, like, she was in almost every scene, like in a show, right? Like literally, like, so it was like 14 hour days every day with. With like, maybe it's not seven days a week, I don't know, but like, it's almost every.
- [26:39]
Maddie Ice
It's at least five days a week. And now this is how you know that's the best part of when the show starts to become successful. Because early Entourage days, right? It's all about days.
- [26:48]
Matt Leinart
Yeah.
- [26:49]
Maddie Ice
So when we're just starting and no one cares or knows who we are, we don't have a lot of money. So we're doing five day episodes for 30 page scripts, right? Those are all 15, 16 hour days. And in the early days, the four. Four guys, me, Dylan, Connelly and Adrian, even if it was a scene about Adrian and Connolly, me and Dylan are still in the background just being dicks. So we were there for everything. But then as you get to like season three, four, you get more Money and more money by the end, by season eight, eight hour days, nine to five, show up at nine because you have like, you have like 11 days to shoot 30 pages as opposed to five. So that's really how it goes with television. The more success you get, the more money and it's. It's just more time. That's all the money in Hollywood is, is time.
- [27:34]
Matt Leinart
Yeah. How, how I was. I'm. I've never asked you this. How do you memorize your lines? What is your process of lines? Because I'm kind of lucky. You were, you weren't. You weren't ad libbing a ton, right?
- [27:47]
Maddie Ice
Like, no, we didn't ad lib well with Entourage, we didn't ad lib at all. I'm very lucky because I have a photographic.
- [27:53]
Matt Leinart
You can just remember.
- [27:54]
Maddie Ice
Yeah, no, when I say photographic, I mean I can close my eyes and I could still think of a page in the script from the pilot where I could tell you where in the sentence the last word was before it began. The new sentence. I have a photographic memory with power. It was a little different because that photographic memory is helpful. But when you're saying stuff like prosecutorial malfeasance, it's like, I don't even know what that means. I need help. So it was a slower learning process because you don't know what the hell you're saying. But I've seen some people tape lines, meaning, like they'll tape all your lines and leave a space for theirs. So they'll be driving and they'll hit play and they'll hear your line. So that's how everyone does it differently. I've fortunately never had line issues. Some people do. A lot of people have.
- [28:45]
Matt Leinart
Oh, I can imagine.
- [28:47]
Maddie Ice
And it. That takes up a lot of time when someone. Look, I always say the worst thing. I think we talked about in a different episode. The worst thing someone can do as an actor on any set is show up and not know your lines. So. Yeah, and. And the, the last thing that. The only similarity, obviously there's nothing physical, but I even joke around with you when we do this show where it's like, I calibrated the coffee at just the right time. The, the thing that any rookie actor would probably need to learn right away on a film or TV set is brokering your energy. Like, you cannot come out unless the scene calls for it. You just gotta. You gotta calibrate and broker out your energy perfectly because it's a long day and your big close up on your big scene might be an hour 14, you don't know.
- [29:40]
Matt Leinart
So, yeah, just pound that makeup on, baby.
- [29:42]
Maddie Ice
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Matt Leinart
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- [30:28]
Maddie Ice
Try them all to find your favorite. Are you going to be a strawberry Swirl girl? A caramel I said Caramel Crazed Fanatic Brownie batter Buff Pop Tart Strawberry Fanatic Oreo brownie stand. Anyway, whatever flavor you're craving, odds are we've got a Frosty for it.
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Maddie Ice
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Matt Leinart
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- [32:52]
Maddie Ice
Yeah, that's right. The Pathfinder rock creek comes equipped with 18 inch beadlock style wheels with with allterrain tires to help you handle the tough conditions on and off road.
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Matt Leinart
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- [33:09]
Maddie Ice
I'm telling you, this is the one. It's the Nissan pathfinder rock creek.
- [33:13]
Matt Leinart
Let's go.
- [33:14]
Maddie Ice
Intelligent four wheel drive cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. Are you ready for. Obviously it's golf related. My favorite sports moment of the week. Are you ready for this? So you obviously watched the British open. You're going. Can you tell everybody where you're going this weekend?
- [33:34]
Matt Leinart
I'm going to Scotland this weekend with my boys at Travis Matthew. Shout out to Travis Matthew. I'm playing. Yeah, I mean St. Andrews. I'm playing the old course. I'm playing. Let me pull this up. Castle course.
- [33:48]
Maddie Ice
Is that castle core? Oh yeah. That makes a lot of sense.
- [33:51]
Matt Leinart
Yeah. So I'm playing, I'm playing the castle course day one and the old course day two.
- [33:57]
Maddie Ice
So mission accomplished. I got liner to really did play golf. He's flying to Scotland. I mean I, I, there's no more.
- [34:05]
Matt Leinart
Accomplished Tahoe a couple weeks ago. I'm going to Scotland to play with some of the boys. I'll. I'M gonna reunite my boy Reggie. Reggie will be there. Shout out to our.
- [34:14]
Maddie Ice
Well, I want lots of pictures and videos sent to me personally from that trip. So my favorite sports moment of the week. It was golfer. It was Scotty Scheffler. Now, we all know he won the British Open, but did you see his interview before the Open? Yeah, as press conference. He basically had an existential crisis, but not one like they needed help for. I think he's been dealing with this probably his whole career. And he questioned what the point of all this is. He's like, you win. It's great for two minutes. And I'm back here next week and I'm trying to figure out a way to win. And why do I want to win this tournament so bad? Because it doesn't really matter.
- [34:52]
Matt Leinart
It sounded like he was having a little bit of a midlife crisis.
- [34:56]
Maddie Ice
Yeah. But I loved it. And then he goes out and he blisters everybody like Tiger frickin Woods and wins by 100 strokes. Then he takes the claret jug from the British Open, flies with it to New York and goes to The Happy Gilmore 2, period. Is that not. Do you think it'd be the best five day stretch of any athlete ever.
- [35:16]
Matt Leinart
But let me ask you a question, because Scheffler's the best in the game.
- [35:19]
Maddie Ice
Yes.
- [35:20]
Matt Leinart
By far. By far. You know, like he just, especially the last couple years. If it's any other person that says that in that sport. Are they. I, I don't even actually.
- [35:31]
Maddie Ice
They're in trouble.
- [35:32]
Matt Leinart
They're probably, they're probably the game.
- [35:34]
Maddie Ice
That's why they're not winning.
- [35:36]
Matt Leinart
Everyone actually came out and like kind of applauded him for just being honest. Like, dude, he's, he's grinding. Like, he's, he's a family guy. He grinds. Like, obviously he loves golf, but like, like you can tell that it's like, dude, that like they play every week and it's a, it's a probably a mental approach, but if that's anybody else.
- [35:51]
Maddie Ice
I think we're questioning their desire to.
- [35:54]
Matt Leinart
Like, dude, if that's Rory McElroy, like.
- [35:56]
Maddie Ice
Oh, he's getting crushed.
- [35:57]
Matt Leinart
Oh, he's getting. Absolutely.
- [35:58]
Maddie Ice
This is why Rory doesn't win. Doesn't have 15 majors yet.
- [36:02]
Matt Leinart
I love, doesn't I. I love anytime. And it's, it's a different world now. But like when I was playing, it felt, me personally kind of felt like, like you were always muzzled. Right. Like you just couldn't really say what you wanted because you were afraid Like. Like, we talk about cancel culture and all that. Not even that. You're just like, you know, you're just afraid to say something because you can't have feelings. Whatever. You got to be like, hey, you know, like, whatever. No, like, soft. If you were like, Roger says whatever he wants, but he's also a Hall of Famer, right? So there's guys that can kind of just get away with it. I love. And we've talked about it now, like, all these players have podcasts and, like, they just. They kind of say what's on their mind. For better, for worse. I enjoy it. I like it. I like the vulnerability. I like the honest. Like. Like, we don't. Like, yeah, he makes a ton of money. He's a great golfer. He flies on a private jet everywhere. But, like, the dude is still a real. Like, a human being with a family that's away from his family all the time.
- [36:54]
Maddie Ice
I'm absolutely fascinated by Scotty Scheffler because he does not ever release show. He doesn't. I mean, someone tweeted, like, this guy, basically, someone put up his mug shots. Like, this guy's been in and out of jail for a year. He's just won.
- [37:11]
Matt Leinart
Just. Just. Yeah, edit out of jail, just.
- [37:13]
Maddie Ice
I think he's one of the more fascinating athletes because, you know, he gets a little bit of. Because it's like, oh, it doesn't really show emotion on the chorus. Every now and then you get a little fire from him, but, like, it's, ho, hum, just going to make these birdies.
- [37:26]
Matt Leinart
He's got a little. I was. I was listening to Jordan Spieth. He's got a little tiger in him. When it was like, Tiger. Like, Tiger just kept to himself, right? Like, he just kind of did his thing. He like, yes. Now those. You want to be friends, they seem very different personality. Like, Tiger was, like, just polarizing. And like, everyone was like, yeah, he has no friends on tour. Like, I think Speed, unless it was a AI video. But, like, Speed came out and said, like, yeah, like, he just rather. You know, he doesn't really do all the corporate stuff. He doesn't do all that. He just shows up, plays golf and leaves. He's just a goat dude.
- [37:59]
Maddie Ice
I'm just fascinated by him. Yeah. Existential crisis. Because also, I feel like golf and other m. Individual sports might be the only sport where you could really say, why does this real. Like, yes, of course I'm competitive. I've been doing this my whole life. I want to win. It's how I make A living. But does it really matter? I can't do it in football because you could get killed.
- [38:18]
Matt Leinart
I feel like just start to slow up if you. Yeah, well, it's also an individual sport. It's just so different. Like, he doesn't rely on anybody else but himself. So, like, it's just like. It's like you're alone on an island and you just. You control like, your Caddy, but, like, that's about it. I. I was just picturing you in a. In a crisis and just how panicky you would be.
- [38:37]
Maddie Ice
Oh, see, you got me all wrong, though. Liner. Here's the thing. Little things. Little things that would. Maybe you would gloss over and be like, ah, who really cares? Will drive me absolutely crazy.
- [38:50]
Matt Leinart
Yeah.
- [38:50]
Maddie Ice
You're like, but if I, like, went outside and my car got stolen, I'd be like, oh, my car got stolen. Wow, that's crazy.
- [38:57]
Matt Leinart
I wouldn't care how that works.
- [38:58]
Maddie Ice
But if I went out and there was, like, a weird little scratch, but I'm like, how. Who the.
- [39:02]
Matt Leinart
How the.
- [39:02]
Maddie Ice
Why did that happen? I would freak out. But if I went out, my car was gone, never to be seen again. I'd be like, wow, you're one.
- [39:09]
Matt Leinart
You're one of those that's like my wife.
- [39:12]
Maddie Ice
I'm calm. I'm calm with the big shits. The little. I just.
- [39:15]
Matt Leinart
I wonder. I always wonder just what it's like to live like that. To be so.
- [39:18]
Maddie Ice
To be where the little things bother.
- [39:21]
Matt Leinart
A little wound tight. A little wound tight is how I would describe you.
- [39:24]
Maddie Ice
It's not fun, dude.
- [39:26]
Matt Leinart
It's not. Bro, you gotta.
- [39:27]
Maddie Ice
It's not a fun place.
- [39:28]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, dude, you gotta. I don't know, man. Play some.
- [39:32]
Maddie Ice
But you do want me in a. In a crisis situation. You want me, meaning I'm a good person to. To be helpful. I'm calm. I'm. I. I keep it together. But anyway, he went from what's the point of all this? To winning the British Open. And he brought the Claret jug to.
- [39:48]
Matt Leinart
The Happy Absolute Fle.
- [39:51]
Maddie Ice
Carpet. It's just like, what. But what a ride. What's the point? To like, I'm party. Here I am with Adam Sandler. But it made me think of a lot of things. And I thought this would be good for our Wendy's flavor of the week. It's presented by Wendy's F. Find your new favorite Frosty Fusions flavor today with choices like Oreo Brownie Caramel Crunch and Pop Tarts Strawberry. It got me thinking sequels. Now, there's a few ways we could go about this. I don't know what you. What research you've done, but just comedy sequels in general, which are a little different. We're not talking Godfather 2, Terminator 2. Those are iconic sequels. Comedies are always a little tougher. Let's go through some of our favorite comedy sequels of all time.
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Matt Leinart
This one was kind of hard.
- [40:37]
Maddie Ice
It is tough because it's not a thick list.
- [40:40]
Matt Leinart
It's not a thick list. And it's. It's also. It's an older list. I found. There's a lot of, like, there isn't a great comedy, like, I mean, like, Happy Gilmore too. I'm sure. I can't wait to see it. That's comedy. But it's a sports. Like, you know, but, like, obviously.
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Maddie Ice
And then we could do, like, this. You know what's even harder is the sports movie sequels, because there's really, like, five to choose from, but let's go. What do you have? Give me, like, your three.
- [41:05]
Matt Leinart
So, yeah, I don't really have an order, but I would say. I would say Ace Ventura, when Nature Calls. And honestly, because Growing. I mean, Jim Carrey is my favorite actor forever, and Ace Ventura was, like, my favorite movie of all time.
- [41:24]
Maddie Ice
Yeah, yeah.
- [41:25]
Matt Leinart
And then, like, the Dumb and Dumber and all that kind of stuff. But Ace Ventura was just fantastic. So. So that one, when I was reading these lists, I'm like, oh, yeah, that one was. That one was pretty good. I don't. It wasn't as good as the first one was good. I went, austin Powers, dude. Dude.
- [41:38]
Maddie Ice
The second or third. The Heather Graham or the Beyonce? Because there's two and three. Heather Graham. Yeah, that's a good one.
- [41:44]
Matt Leinart
And then this one. So this one's a. A little more recent, and I love this movie. 22 Jump Street.
- [41:53]
Maddie Ice
Yeah.
- [41:53]
Matt Leinart
Yeah. So good. Dude. I had some other ones on there, but that one with Channing Tatum, Jonah Hill, like, it was. That one made me laugh.
- [42:02]
Maddie Ice
So I watched. I watched the first one not that long after we did the Josh Richmond episode because he started talking about his part in 21 Jump Street Show. So it got me, like, you know what? Let me watch that. And I'm set up to watch the sequel. Really, really funny.
- [42:17]
Matt Leinart
It's so funny.
- [42:17]
Maddie Ice
Solid list. Okay. For me, I go, I was a big fan of this franchise. I guess you can call it a franchise. I go, American Pie, too.
- [42:26]
Matt Leinart
Yeah.
- [42:26]
Maddie Ice
They go to the lake house. Just solid. You hang with those guys. I think Christmas Vacation counts as a sequel. It does it. Second, it's like a movie it's debatable.
- [42:36]
Matt Leinart
I think it's debatable, but it's obviously a classic.
- [42:39]
Maddie Ice
And I'm not gonna lie. I was a big Rush Hour guy. Rush Hour, too. I was into Rush Hour, man. Those movies made me laugh. And then this could be a. You could debate this one. Would you consider Bad Boys, too? Would you consider the. Not a comedy. It's kind of like, if we consider.
- [42:56]
Matt Leinart
That, then I would do, like, the Hangover, too. I mean, Hangover. I think you could do the Hangover, too. Hangover series were great. I was just trying to mix it up.
- [43:03]
Maddie Ice
I just didn't think the Hangover 2 was near.
- [43:05]
Matt Leinart
It wasn't as good as the original. Hangover is a top five movie, in my opinion. So there's not. It's not a big list, man. It's not.
- [43:12]
Maddie Ice
No. And you know what's even smaller? Sports sequels. Have you thought of any?
- [43:17]
Matt Leinart
Well, dude, I mean, it's pretty.
- [43:18]
Maddie Ice
You could pick any of the rock, right?
- [43:20]
Matt Leinart
2, 3.
- [43:20]
Maddie Ice
Pick any of the Rocky ones. So if I had to pick one, I'd pick two. I go two and then four. I enjoy. I did not enjoy Karate Kid 2 in Okinawa, but I did enjoy Karate Kid 3. I did like when you brought it back to the Valley. Yeah, I enjoyed karate. Mighty Ducks, too.
- [43:41]
Matt Leinart
Mighty Ducks 2 is fabulous.
- [43:43]
Maddie Ice
Gordon Bombay goes from coaching the Ducks to now he's coaching the Junior Olympic team, and he gets to bring some of his players. That's pretty big.
- [43:52]
Matt Leinart
Who did they play against? Who was their. Who's their rival?
- [43:54]
Maddie Ice
Iceland.
- [43:56]
Matt Leinart
Eastland.
- [43:57]
Maddie Ice
East. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because they were. Yeah, I. I think there was, like, a story there where they didn't want to, like, do.
- [44:01]
Matt Leinart
Who was the. What was the name of the coach of Eastland?
- [44:08]
Maddie Ice
It's escaping me. What's the coach?
- [44:10]
Matt Leinart
Wolf Stanson.
- [44:11]
Maddie Ice
Wolf stanson.
- [44:12]
Matt Leinart
I. Dude, D2 was great. Also. Creed. Creed was great.
- [44:16]
Maddie Ice
Creed is a hundred percent a sequel. And it's awesome.
- [44:19]
Matt Leinart
By the way, the Creed movies were. Are. Are awesome. Like. Like, those are like. Talk about going from Rocky to what, three Creeds now? All of them were great.
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Maddie Ice
Yeah.
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Matt Leinart
And he did. Creed 2 is where he fights Drago's son.
- [44:32]
Maddie Ice
And this is for my film buffs. I don't know if you've ever seen the Color of Money, and I don't know if you consider billiards a sport, but it is, technically. It's a sequel from the hot. It's a sequel from the Hustler. So for all you youngins who want to go see a good movie, Tom Cruise. Paul Newman scores. Just great fun movie. So I got one more little thing for you.
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Matt Leinart
What do you got?
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Maddie Ice
What are. What are some sports movies based off of real events that. Sports stories that haven't been made into movies yet.
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Matt Leinart
Sports stories that haven't.
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Maddie Ice
I could pitch you a few. If you don't have any off the top yet. I could pitch you a few.
- [45:07]
Matt Leinart
Pitch me a couple.
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Maddie Ice
Well, all these have been covered in a lot of docs, but if we were to script it out. 83 NC state, the cardiac Pack. The you that win. Shocking win. That could be a good. I could play Jimmy B.
- [45:20]
Matt Leinart
Maybe I was gonna say Jim. Yeah, you could.
- [45:22]
Maddie Ice
I'm at the age where I could play Valve.
- [45:25]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, you could play Valvon. Yeah.
- [45:26]
Maddie Ice
Also another movie. I could be in Malice in the Palace. I could definitely be in that.
- [45:31]
Matt Leinart
I don't think that's a good movie though because. What's the ending? Everyone just gets their ass kicked.
- [45:34]
Maddie Ice
Okay, what about you need for I. Well, I have the one that's like undeniably the GOAT. 1994 MLB strike which arguably or inarguably killed the Montreal Expos. They did not survive. They were in first place. Yankees were in first place. They end the season. They did a fake World Series exhibition and then the Expos were gone. One of the best hats in baseball.
- [45:59]
Matt Leinart
I was a part of a strike. NFL strike.
- [46:02]
Maddie Ice
Was it fun to be. I mean I've been a lot a part of a lot of union strikes.
- [46:05]
Matt Leinart
I coached a flag football team.
- [46:07]
Maddie Ice
That is that when you started being the OC and you were getting crazy obsessive?
- [46:10]
Matt Leinart
I didn't even coach my kid. I just coached a team in our leagues down in Orange County. I gotta be honest with you. I'm not seeing either of those movies.
- [46:19]
Maddie Ice
Okay. 2007 Appalachian State over Michigan in the big house.
- [46:25]
Matt Leinart
That's. That's one of those good feel story. Feel good football movies for sure.
- [46:29]
Maddie Ice
All right. Now these are the. These are the big football movies.
- [46:32]
Matt Leinart
Football movies are good because you. You an upset like you can make a good story about it.
- [46:37]
Maddie Ice
These are the big three that I think you will enjoy. The 2021. The a heist of the sale of a rare Mickey Mantle card. Mickey Mantle's card sold for 12.6 million. You could you could I sell you on a heist movie about that card.
- [46:52]
Matt Leinart
You're in all day. All day.
- [46:54]
Maddie Ice
Second place. And Jeff Pearlman has these next two. He wrote them as books. 90s cowboys. We're talking Irvin Leon. Let's it. We're going Control.
- [47:04]
Matt Leinart
That's rated X.
- [47:05]
Maddie Ice
That's then the ultimate story. This is the ultimate sports story. I don't know how. This is not a docuser, a show. They've made documentaries. It's the 86 Mets. And the book, if you guys ever want a good book out there, if you have not read when the bad. The bad guys won 86 Mets. These dudes on the flight home from Houston after winning the. After winning the nlcs they wrecked the plane. Oh yeah. Someone put in our chat the 06 Rose Ball. Sure, why not?
- [47:36]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, why not? Let's just do it. So I've been getting asked to do people want to do another a doc on our era because we did the. We did a 30 for 30, right.
- [47:47]
Maddie Ice
I don't feel like it covered it. How did you feel about like, do you feel like it covered it enough?
- [47:52]
Matt Leinart
Definitely not enough. But I thought it was more. Yeah, there's way more. Because a lot of that was sort of geared towards Reggie at the end. This one kind of like, you know, like obviously like swamp kings with Florida and Urban I thought was fascinating. Was pretty cool. Yeah. I've been been kind of approached about potentially like making a dock out of that time in the. In the era of USC football and the dynasty, which I think people would love to watch. I mean people love sports docs.
- [48:21]
Maddie Ice
Yeah. So I guess you would pro in thinking about that if I was producing that. Obviously you and Reggie are the first two. Right. We go after you guys because then if we get you and you to say yes and Reggie says that we can start going.
- [48:33]
Matt Leinart
Reggie would be a tough sell but.
- [48:35]
Maddie Ice
Well, maybe that's it. Maybe you say yes. Then they go to Reggie like well, Maddie's in and they go to me. Pete probably got the call too.
- [48:41]
Matt Leinart
He would do it. Pete did the 30 for 30. Lindell White would be fascinating.
- [48:46]
Maddie Ice
Can we get Lindell White on the show?
- [48:48]
Matt Leinart
You probably get like a guy like Clay Matthews, even though he was like on the. He was a young at the end of that. But.
- [48:54]
Maddie Ice
But he was.
- [48:55]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, I mean a lot of those guys that were on our squad like, like became. I mean Clay's hall of Famer, you know, like a lot of those younger players at that time.
- [49:02]
Maddie Ice
So who wasn't covered in a 30 for 30 that you would say, you know, who needs their own like 5 minute segment in the movie for your former teammate? Which player do you not think that maybe if in another doc would get a lot more shine?
- [49:17]
Matt Leinart
I mean Alex Holmes was the king. He connected us to Hollywood. He Did. I mean, he is. He's. He was our tight end. He's a great player. He's.
- [49:27]
Maddie Ice
How does he connect? Was he from Hollywood? Like, it. Was he in Laura.
- [49:33]
Matt Leinart
He just. I mean, Josh talked. We talked about him on the episode last week. Like, Josh, he just went out and he was. He was always one of those guys who understood how to network and meet people and build relationships at a young age. Really smart dude and a hell of an athlete. He's really good. And he just. He just was a connector. He connected and he stayed in touch, and he just knew how to do that. He could talk to anybody, had the personality, all those things, and he became the guy. He became, you know, hey, we need. We need. This kid's coming in this weekend. We need to, like, we need to. We want him done like Alex was.
- [50:07]
Maddie Ice
Call Alex.
- [50:08]
Matt Leinart
He was the guy. He hosted everybody. He was sort of. If he didn't host you, he hosted you. You know, like, he. He was like the umbrella. Every. Every. Every recruit that came in, you know who'd be good, who didn't get his shine was Mike Williams, because Mike Williams.
- [50:23]
Maddie Ice
I'm interested in that.
- [50:24]
Matt Leinart
He's at USC now. He's in player development. But he left early. You know, his whole story, and not necessarily his story, because he left and did the whole supplemental draft and tried to do what Maurice Claret did and didn't work out and, like. But we won the national championship without him. And he should have been a the team, which is crazy because he was. Yeah, like the. The. He was like a shot to the NBA. He was the most dominant player I had seen in that era.
- [50:49]
Maddie Ice
He's enormous, right?
- [50:50]
Matt Leinart
65. He's just. He was an absolute animal. 6, 5, and he was just 240. Could run like he was a beast. He would be one that would be like, oh, I remember how good he was.
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Maddie Ice
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Maddie Ice
We'Re going to do Control your game Presented by NITSA when you speed, you have less time to react. Follow the speed limit to keep other road users safe. Speeding catches up with you. Paid for by Nitsa. Do you know what I enjoyed while we were in indie? For whatever reason, I'm not gonna give too much away. We were driving her well yes, we were driving around cameras all mounted in the car and I didn't have to drive. You were. You were doing all the driving.
- [53:39]
Matt Leinart
I was really, I was really driving. Like I was looking over the cameras. It was a couple. We had a police escort and everything was freaking awesome.
- [53:46]
Maddie Ice
But it brought me Back in time, right. And then I realized on that day, I'm like, oh, wow, it's 21 years.
- [53:52]
Matt Leinart
Yeah. Which is wild.
- [53:53]
Maddie Ice
Entourage aired and we shot the whole season. And then finally, when the show's getting ready to air, a few weeks before, we had to do the opening title sequence. Right. Which is at that time too, especially for hbo, was a big thing. And if you remember, it's like all our names in lights at various special places. Like, my. Believe it or not, my name, Jerry Ferrari in the credits is in the Viper Room. That's where my name is. So everyone has a different one. But we had a. We did this driving sequence in Lincoln with the suicide doors and all that. And I was just. And we started because we had to do it at night. So we started at like 9:30 at night, and we did that. We drove that Lincoln all around Hollywood in LA till 6 o' clock in the morning, till the sun came up, cameras everywhere. And it really got me thinking back to 21 years. You know, it's. It definitely.
- [54:45]
Matt Leinart
Are we gonna get an anniversary just every year for Entourage? I feel like we just get it 22 years, 23 years, 24 years.
- [54:51]
Maddie Ice
Well, 20 and 21 hit a certain way. I always post about it, but for reason, this year, even more than Last year's, like, 20th anniversary, this year, it just, like, caught fire on all my pages. I don't know why it was.
- [55:06]
Matt Leinart
I think it's probably because we're. We're talking about it a lot more. I mean, we're on the show, guys.
- [55:12]
Maddie Ice
Maddie. I could remember sitting in my North Hollywood apartment on that night, July 18, 20 2004, when it was airing now. Now, I wasn't watching it because I wanted to watch it because I was excited to watch it. I was watching it because I. I wanted to see, are they going to cancel this thing halfway through? Like, are they gonna pull it off the air? And I just remember sitting there, bringing the whole show full circle. My Scotty Scheffler moment. I remember it ending and saying, this is the best it's gonna get. Like, this is it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [55:44]
Matt Leinart
You had no feel that it was gonna be. I mean, obviously, I don't think you ever know, but, like, you can read a script, you can hear the story and be like. Like, oh. And then you put yourself back in that time of la, like, oh, this could be a fun show. Nothing.
- [55:56]
Maddie Ice
You're just like, well, some of my paranoia that you teased me about earlier. Yeah, my, my.
- [56:02]
Matt Leinart
I can imagine.
- [56:03]
Maddie Ice
But also, it's like, you know, this isn't supposed to happen to me. Number one, I'm some meathead from Brooklyn. I'm not supposed to make it on TV unless I'm probably, you know, for other reasons. And then number two, it's like all. None of these shows really make it at that time too. So many shows come and go and are out the door. And then I remember hearing that HBO music, like that sound of the static and watching it. And then I was like, yeah, this is the best it's ever gonna get. I need to enjoy it. And it did bring back some other memories though, too, where in the pilot, by the way, none of us knew what the hell we were doing in the pilot. Kevin Dillon called me E a couple of times. I'm like, no, bro, I'm Turtle. Like, we. In the pilot, we just met two weeks before the first episod. So, you know, we had to do this pool scene and it was an indoor outdoor pool in this amazing house that's still there right off of Franklin Boulevard. And I have to. I have like this kissing scene with this girl after I say this awful line to her. I still couldn't believe I said this line.
- [57:06]
Matt Leinart
What'd you say?
- [57:06]
Maddie Ice
I had to say, make out with me and I'll show you where Vince eats breakfast in the morning. Which, Doug Allen, if you're listening, I love you, buddy. That's a hard line for any actor to pull off. So. And then me and the girl kiss. Now we're in this pool. It's 2:00 in the morning, the pool's not heated. Somehow someone forgot to flip the heat on this 40 million dollar mansion. Pool's freezing cold. It's November in LA and I won't name the food establishment that I got food poisoning from the. The day of. I was so sick. And this poor girl, Courtney, I'm miss. I'm not remembering her last name. I was like apologizing, telling her you.
- [57:44]
Matt Leinart
Had to make out with her.
- [57:45]
Maddie Ice
I was saying, it's food poisoning. And I had like a fever. I was. I thought I was dying.
- [57:50]
Matt Leinart
And she's like.
- [57:51]
Maddie Ice
And she was a true. Nah, she had a solid, solid co starring part. And we get through. I'm in between takes. They're pulling me out of the pool, wrapping me with towels, putting me under a heater. I was shivering. This is where I knew Connolly was going to be my boy and was like, already a leader even though he was at a young age too. We find, like, we got the scene and they're like, let's do one more. Conley was like, he's done. Pull him. Like, Connolly came running. I was like, take him out of the place. Done. He's done. And they wrapped me and sent me. I had to be driven home. And I think I was in bed the whole weekend. I was out. I don't know why that sticks.
- [58:28]
Matt Leinart
Is that. That's in the pilot.
- [58:29]
Maddie Ice
That's in the pilot. So if. I don't know if we could show it.
- [58:32]
Matt Leinart
I gotta watch the pilot.
- [58:33]
Maddie Ice
And the other thing that sticks out from the pilot is we have this line where we basically tell Conley's character we saw his girlfriend in a club messing around with Vince Vaughn. And he's like, vince Vaughn, that Puffy mfer? The lines are like, no, no, this isn't Puffy Vince Vaughn. This is like old school Vince Vaughn. I see Vince Vaughn a few weeks after that episode aired. Now, he either never saw it and just didn't care to talk to me, or we went to one of those Madden EA parties. You've probably been invited to those y. And they pair us up to play against each other. And dude was not friendly, really. And I think it's because some. I don't know if he watched or someone told him, like, yo, they were. They were making fun of you on that show. And he beat me in overtime.
- [59:20]
Matt Leinart
Did he?
- [59:20]
Maddie Ice
He beat me in overtime at that time where I thought I was a really good Madden player. He beat me in overtime, so. Oh, and the last thing that stands out, we all know Ali Lauderdale, famously from the Varsity Blues. Whipped cream, right?
- [59:35]
Matt Leinart
But she's wonderful, fantastic on. What's it called? Land. Land.
- [59:41]
Maddie Ice
Is it Landman.
- [59:42]
Matt Leinart
Landman, yeah. Fantastic.
- [59:44]
Maddie Ice
So this other thing stands out too. We. We could not get cameos, obviously, in the pilot or in the whole first season because no one knew what it was and everyone thought we were making fun of them. Wahlberg did a cameo in the pilot. Obviously. He's the producer of the show. We have this scene in a club where this Hollywood actress that was in the script comes over and is like, where she's like, supposed to be kind of crazy, like, where's Vince? Basically, like, her and Vince had a thing and he's kind of ditching her and we point her in another direction. I mean, we were on set in the club. No Hollywood act, no actress. At one point I was like, oh, Jennifer Love Hewitt's gonna come by. It's amazing. Another point, it was Scarlett Joe this per. And then no, no one was showing. And to the rescue. Someone must have begged and pleaded and knew Ali lie. I don't know if it was Wahlberg. Someone begged her to come do it. I know she didn't get paid much. And Ali Larder showed up at the 25th hour and did that cameo.
- [60:43]
Matt Leinart
Oh.
- [60:44]
Maddie Ice
So I've always. I've always rooted and cheered.
- [60:47]
Matt Leinart
Shout out to Ali Larder.
- [60:48]
Maddie Ice
She saved us. She saved us.
- [60:51]
Matt Leinart
If that doesn't happen, the show might not go on.
- [60:53]
Maddie Ice
Might not go on, buddy. That's it. So what else we. So you're getting ready. We're signing off. You're getting ready for Scotland and just enjoying some family time before.
- [61:01]
Matt Leinart
Yeah, dude. Appreciate you get me back into golf, man. Just traveling to Scotland this week.
- [61:07]
Maddie Ice
You guys went to a concert, too? I thought for sure. I saw you and Josie. You're at a concert, right?
- [61:11]
Matt Leinart
Recently, we went to. We saw the Just the Legend George Strait last weekend.
- [61:15]
Maddie Ice
I thought for sure I was gonna see something on social from YouTube making fun of the NASA guy who got caught at Coldplay. You know, anything.
- [61:24]
Matt Leinart
Like, man, I'm. I. I kind of feel bad for.
- [61:27]
Maddie Ice
I feel bad, too.
- [61:28]
Matt Leinart
I mean, it's gotten to the point where it's too much. Everybody's. It is a little too much. I like it is what it is that I've gotten a couple good laughs out of some of the memes and stuff. But, like, dude, it's like families are ending, man. Like, that's not. It's not fun. It's not fun fun. We did. We did. I did. I did walk into. So fine. I'm like, could you imagine if there's a kiss cam in here? And, you know, you get a little chuckle. But yeah, shout out to George Straight. He was phenomenal. This is my year of concerts. Year of concerts. We're going to Jason Aldean next month with Nate Smith, who's a buddy there in Austin. Got a little Nelly coming to town. Might throw back a little bit.
- [62:05]
Maddie Ice
You go into Nelly.
- [62:06]
Matt Leinart
Oh, yeah.
- [62:07]
Maddie Ice
Oh, we gotta get Nelly. We gotta get.
- [62:09]
Matt Leinart
We're working on Nelly. Shout out to Nelly. Come on, throwbacks, buddy.
- [62:13]
Maddie Ice
All right, well, we are gonna be off for two more weeks. We're basically gearing up, getting ready for football season, and we're gonna be in person. We're coming to you next. In person, flying out to la. We got a bunch of shows coming.
- [62:25]
Matt Leinart
Up'S almost here, buddy. It's almost. It's almost time to start talking about your New York football Giants cam.
- [62:32]
Maddie Ice
Scatter. Boo. That's my only hope. That's what I want him this whole year.
- [62:37]
Matt Leinart
Hey, he's a dog.
- [62:39]
Maddie Ice
We're out.