← Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara
Super Bowl Picks, Coaching Carousel and TCU Twitter Drama
01:06:02
Loading summary
Transcript516 lines
- [00:00]
A
I don't really know how to handle. When your boy finds himself embroiled in a Twitter fiasco, I just don't know how to handle it. Do I jump in?
- [00:09]
B
Yeah, you jump in.
- [00:10]
A
Do I cur. I don't know. I don't know what to do. All right, welcome in, everybody. Another episode of Throwbacks. The first episode of 2020 26.
- [00:33]
B
We made it, bro. We made it.
- [00:35]
A
That's weird to say 2026. And then when you see stuff like 20, 2014 was 10 years ago or.
- [00:42]
B
12, dude, I was scrolling. You know how you scroll? You. You gotta look up your birthday and like, I'm scrolling all the way down to 1983, and I'm like, holy, dude, I am getting old. And when you were, like, in the 90s, you ever thought about, man, I wonder what 2020, like, we're here, bro. We're living it.
- [01:01]
A
Yeah, we didn't get any of the things that Back to the Future promised us, part two, but, well, we got robots.
- [01:06]
B
We got robots. We got cars that drive themselves. We got all sorts of crazy stuff going on.
- [01:11]
A
You know what else is weird, too? Like, I think of the second giant super bowl, right? Like, I remember that so vividly. I remember where I was. It felt like not that long ago, 14 years ago. Since that second. Not even the first giant suit rulers the Pats. The second one was 14 years ago. That's just heartbreaking for me. It's.
- [01:30]
B
It is heartbreaking for. I want to say it's been awesome, dude. Season two of Throwbacks. Appreciate you. It's going to be a great year. Obviously, like, new year is always kind of a time to reset, you know, a lot of great things going on in your life. Obviously, you got a baby coming up, a baby coming up. A baby popping out here in the next month or so. Yeah. Sending my boy off to college next week.
- [01:52]
A
Wow, that's got a hit.
- [01:54]
B
We got a great crew behind us at Throwback. So shout out to everybody there. Wish everybody, everybody, a happy new year. I just want to say one thing. Let's crush this year, buddy. Let's crush this year.
- [02:05]
A
Well, thankful.
- [02:06]
B
Thankful to have this show. Thankful to all the listeners, all the people who subscribe. Keep downloading, subscribing to Throwback Show. Follow us on all that stuff. But it's going to be an awesome year.
- [02:16]
A
It is going to be an awesome year. And I want to talk a few ways about how I ended the year. But most importantly, Matt, how did you kind of close out 2025? As I look at the date. And, you know, it's so weird now. Like, I'm so used to backing up my boys, whether it's in the street or, like, if I ever did an.
- [02:36]
B
Injury.
- [02:39]
A
And then I don't really know how to handle. When your boy finds himself embroiled in a Twitter fiasco, I just don't know how to handle it. Do I jump in? Yeah. I don't know what to do. So maybe I'm a bad friend. And out there, please tweet us. Like, how I could have been a better friend to Matt during this. And I don't know if we could bring this up on the screen, but I'll read it if we can't. On December 30th. So this is 2025. Matt Leiner innocently tweeted, nobody cares. I promise, exclamation point. And like, the laughing so hard you're crying emoji, right? Innocent enough. I see it has about 2 million views. Why does a tweet like that, Matt have 2 million views?
- [03:22]
B
Well, I.
- [03:23]
A
Give us a little back. Yeah.
- [03:25]
B
I'll give you some context. So I'm sure I was a couple drinks in. At that point in the. In the watching. Watching the USCTCU game was on. Okay. And I want to say this. And this is the dead honest truth. And I'm going to say this. I'm going to say on my children, not that anyone really cares anymore, but on my children. That tweet had nothing to do with the USC TCU game. I tweeted that early in the game. I think USC was up at the time. Like, I had. It had nothing to do with TCU or USC that game. And I saw TCU football handle coming at me, which I love because I love tcu. We. We covered TCU at Fox on Big Noon. I've been there a couple times. They're amazing. I love the people there. I love Sunny. Like, that's why I was laughing. I'm like. I was like, come on, guys. I love you guys. This has nothing to do with you. It had nothing to do with USC in that game. It was a little bit of a subliminal message to another football team. And I'm not going to name names. And another thing that was going on in that week, and that's all it was. I listen. It was all about just stirring the pot. It's a subliminal message. But right here, right now, TCU football, I love you. Had nothing to do with you. It had nothing to do with that game. It had nothing to do with bowl games in general because that's. You read the timeline and it's just like this, this, this, this, this. But man, it is amazing when you send something out, it get. It gets legs and then it just goes. And people just make up what they think they. What it means. Well, what did you think? You kind of know now, but what did you have any like, guess when I first.
- [05:05]
A
Well, because I kind of. Here's the thing. I caught your tweet when it was already like millions of views, right. I didn't like seeing see it five minutes after because I wasn't watching the game in the moment at the time. I don't even know. I'll tell you where I was when we do our Wendy's segment where I probably was. But no, and then, but the thing I, the thing that brought to my attention was I saw a tweet from TCU football. Yeah, the verified that one.
- [05:29]
B
That one got me a little bit. I was like, oh, come on, guys.
- [05:32]
A
And you know they had that. They basically just tweeted cry on and they gave you the peace sign. And that alone has 1.3 million views.
- [05:43]
B
Good for, by the way, all of these, all of the social teams for a lot of these teams are freaking hilarious, dude. They're like, you don't want to get in a battle with a social media team from a major football university because they, they go at you, you know.
- [05:57]
A
One I didn't like is from this guy, Cold Garfield. His was his Twitter name. This is where I started getting like, man, I got to do something. He, quote, tweeted you and said, never seen a Heisman winner this be this much of a dork.
- [06:13]
C
What's a.
- [06:14]
A
First of all, nothing you said was dorky. Nothing about you.
- [06:18]
B
I didn't see that one.
- [06:19]
A
And like, I don't know, I feel like that was like a mean tweet, but not as mean as some of these other ones. And this is where I started saying, like, shoot, do I have to get involved here? Let me.
- [06:28]
B
By the way, I've never outside of maybe when I was seven. No, like five to seven years old when I wore super big thick bifocals and I was cross eyed and wore high socks. Did anyone ever say I was a dork? So that's a good one, dude. Well, appreciate you, bro.
- [06:46]
A
Shy Giddy 300 one of the best memories in sports I've had in the last five to six years was watching this guy and Reggie Bush in disbelief as they watched a USA team with St. Brown, London and Pitman get blown away by Iowa. Trust me, you guys cared. They looked like they were about to cry.
- [07:12]
B
I don't even remember year that was. Dude, people need to know this about me. And I think they get, I think they get. You know, there's certain alumni and fans and people that care so much about their university that it's almost sad. Like, like, like in a way that it's like so invested. Every day it's on their mind, they wake up. Like it's actually fairly like sad and kind of makes me feel insecure like for them. Like, I love usc. I want USC to be successful. I am a proud alumnus. I think it's the best university for what it can do and all these things in the world. And I support and I want us to be great and whatever that looks like, I must be great. But like, like people need to, to know that, like, I don't care that much. So when you're all up in here like you're all up in the biz, like it's actually, it's just funny to me. Like it doesn't hurt my feelings. Like my feelings don't get hurt over it, you know, hard to hurt your feelings. It's really hard to hurt my feelings.
- [08:09]
A
Like that doesn't like about stuff like that.
- [08:11]
B
People talk about my NFL. Like I've heard everything and nothing hurts my feelings. If you come out my family and you my kids, then we have a problem, right? Like that's where, like, I think that's.
- [08:20]
A
Where people make it personal.
- [08:22]
B
Okay. People make it personal on there. I'm like, bro, like, like, how does it feel that like you think about me that much?
- [08:29]
A
You know what I mean? Like it's, it's a lot. My last favorite one, cuz. This might have potentially been a dig at throwbacks too. I don't know. Because, but, but you said.
- [08:39]
B
Where, where in that last one you said you're going to come defend me. Where have you. When have you defended me?
- [08:43]
A
I have not. This is the one I really almost jumped in on to defend you. This is a Texas A and M scent. Sentel. So it's like a. Intentional. Yeah, it's a fa, right? Not Texas A and M, but this Texas A and M Central tweeted. Aren't you linked to that cartel gambling fraud referencing Owen Hansen, bro.
- [09:02]
B
Oh yeah.
- [09:04]
A
So either that was a shot at throwbacks or you clearly didn't listen to the episode. Matt Miner had absolutely nothing to do with anything Owen Hansen was doing.
- [09:13]
B
Oh my God, I hope not. I'm not Linked to that. Because I'd be looking on my shoulder every day. No, I'm not linked that. O Dog. We had O Dog on the pod. It was great, that story. Hey, by the way, cocaine quarterback. Go. Go watch it on Amazon Prime. We had him on a couple months ago, earlier in the fall. But, no, I am not linked to that. Thank God. Incredible story, but, no, I was not.
- [09:34]
A
Has it died down? Is your Twitter, like, clean now? Like, are you pretty much back to regular? Like, is the timeline cleansed? Are you back to. Are you still.
- [09:40]
B
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not on. I'm not on there that much, you know? Like, I. Like. Like, the playoffs. Like, I'll be in there again with the college football playoffs and, you know, some of these games and stuff. And it's just amazing how that platform does that. You know what I mean? Like, we talk about the. The positive of it, but the. But the. It just. It just. It allows people to be super courageous and super brave and they can do whatever they want. But you see those people? These are the same people you see in a grocery store, and they want to come up and get your autograph. You know what I mean? Like, it's just a funny world we live in with that. But people need to know I have fun on there. That was not a dig at tcu. So I. I just. Like, I love my TCU squad, but, yeah, man, people. People. People can read between lines and. And make what they think of it.
- [10:26]
A
I should have backed you up because.
- [10:28]
B
Yeah, like, I'm actually more disappointed in you not being there for me than what the people are saying about me, so that's fair. Yeah.
- [10:34]
A
Because I really only use Twitter for Nick's stuff and bat and sport and my fandom, and I'm for sure gonna get into a Twitter beef come playoff time. And I'm already, like, at war with. Now it's like, we know how I feel about the Philly fans. Now it's the Celtics fans, because the Celtics fans are good. And I couldn't make sense of this. Matt, like, every Celtics fan since early before Thanksgiving has been tweeting specifically about their seating. Like, oh, my God, we're like a. We're a three seed.
- [11:03]
B
Yeah, they're analyzing every freaking.
- [11:05]
A
But it's like.
- [11:06]
B
It's like I.
- [11:07]
A
You could say, like, oh, my team is doing good. We're, like, overperforming. We have no Jayson Tatum. This is sick. And it is sick what they're doing, but specifically celebrating that you are now a two seed. A half game up on the Knicks in January 7th as they record this. Why can't you just say, wow, we're lighting the league up. So I start chirping, and then there's one dude, Dan Greenberg from Barstool, and I ain't trying to catch no smoke with Barstool, but him and I have been going back for it. So I say all that to say I. I'm hoping you will come. If I need you to come, I got you. You need my Twitter with the Knicks, even though you're not with the Knicks.
- [11:44]
B
Yeah, I mean, you don't need my defense with the Knicks, but I'll come out. Yeah. You don't come at Turtle, bro. You don't come at Turtle.
- [11:50]
A
And believe me, that's exactly what I. I get. Shut up, Turtle.
- [11:54]
B
When I'm at. When I'm in the line of fire online and I'm taking just strays to the dome left and right, like, I need back. I need. Like, I need some backup. I need to know that you're in the trenches with me.
- [12:04]
A
I feel like I just caught it late. I feel like if I caught it in the moment, I would have jumped right in.
- [12:08]
B
By the way I send that out. Like, I just go about my day and night. Like, I don't even think. I'm like, what?
- [12:14]
A
But then your phone explodes.
- [12:15]
B
I'm like, what are you guys talking about? Anyway, that's fun.
- [12:19]
A
That being said, the next.
- [12:19]
B
We should do more of that because I get. I get. I get on.
- [12:22]
A
Oh, I got some great. I got some great ones, man. I got. So I'll pull from some of my mean tweets in the bank, especially during that Nick Sixers series. And usually it's all just like, typ casting hate. Like, oh, you're Turtle. What have you done since Entourage? I'm like, I've done 70 episodes of another show and seven movie. But it's okay. You start defending yourself, it makes it worse.
- [12:44]
B
Yeah, like, if you start defending yourself, then you look like an idiot.
- [12:47]
A
I get people like, how did you fumble Jamie Lynn Sig? I'm like, dude, that was a television show. Like, I didn't fumble anything there because, like, the girls that broke.
- [12:56]
B
He also fumbled. Ronda Rousey.
- [12:58]
A
Yeah. How'd you fumble round around? She would have kicked your ass. I'm like, yeah, you're right. That's 100 true.
- [13:02]
B
That would have been. That been kind of fun, though.
- [13:09]
A
We're gonna bring on Annie Agar in a little while. We're doing twisted trivia. I'm gonna hit some football stuff because so much has happened. And then I want to give you my Wendy's hot take, which is, you know, sort of what I did over the break, as we just discussed your little drama over the break. But really quick, before we hit all that, obviously there's a lot of coaching vacancies which we'll get to. And you know, the draft status is now sort of locked in and it's just such. You couldn't even write this, Matt. Like, the draft status. Raiders get one, jets get two. And now Friday, we have this awesome face off with Oregon and Indiana. And like, obviously we're going to be watching those teams, but I gotta feel like every NFL scout, not that they wouldn't watch it anyway, but this is potentially a monumental draft thing to watch, wouldn't you say?
- [13:58]
B
Yeah. You have, well, the greatest story in college football, and it really has been the last two years in Indiana football. Absolutely. Like, it's. It's like they're here, they're here to stay. They're really, really good. And like, people need to start to wrap their head around. Like, Indiana football is. Is, by the way, better than their basketball program. Like, Indiana basketball has not really been relevant in a long time, even though the history. And it's great, right? It's a basketball school, like, that's quickly, quickly changing. Fernando Mendoza versus Dante Moore, Part two, which is exciting because early in the season, Indiana went on the road to Oregon. Indiana beat them in a really good game. And Dozer threw a pick six in the fourth quarter, came back and let him on a touchdown drive. I think they ended up winning, 30 to 20. Obviously, the seasons go on and here these two young stars are right. And I think in regards to the draft. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna call out someone here in a second, really quick, who had a horrible take this week. But you have Mendoza, who has continued to impress. And, and for me, with him, I've seen him up close and personal. He's big, dude. He's six, four, six five. He moves really well. He's got a really good arm, he's accurate. He's got all the intangibles. The most impressive thing for me for him is when the moment is on the line, he's been really, really good this year because there's a lot of games you can dissect. Like, he didn't have some good games, better competition he played, but he found ways to win in particular in the fourth quarter. Those are things you can't teach, dude. The Mental part of that, like he shows up when it matters. Dante Moore is a little bit more of an enigma for me, in a good way. I think Dante Moore is really talented. He's got all the intangibles. He was a big time recruit coming out of high school. He's found a home in Oregon. We saw him earlier this year, Northwestern. He's really, really good. Dante Moore. I, I think Mendoza is the lock number one pick. I would just say that now. That's my take. I think he's the lock number one pick when it all comes through the whole process. I think Dante Moore could benefit potentially from coming back to school another year. I, I think there's room for him to develop because he's still young and he hasn't played a ton of football. I think there's room for him to develop. And a guy like that coming back next year is going to get five to seven million dollars like in college to play one more year, different world, to get better. Brandon Sorsby in Cincinnati got about 5 million this week to go to Texas Tech and they're just throwing money at guys like over there. Going to get that money, which is life changing money at that age and for anybody's age and have a chance to develop and maybe be the number one pick in the next year. Probably with Arch Manning. Right. Those are the, those would be the two guys. Now again, he could be a top five pick this year. He comes out all that kind of stuff. But I want to read this because this is just hilarious to me.
- [16:40]
A
Yeah.
- [16:41]
B
Keep frozen takes.
- [16:43]
A
Okay.
- [16:44]
B
Yeah. I mean Fernando Mendoza is a very good college quarterback. I know what the number one pick in the draft looks like. That ain't it. So, so, so Bmani, what is the number one pick in the draft?
- [16:55]
A
Who is the number one pick of the draft?
- [16:57]
B
Well, he, he's talking in regards to Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, so, so, so like what does a number one pick look like? I'm just curious, like, what is the number one pick? Like does he have to run a 4 4? Does he like, like Fernando Mendoza is really, really, really, really, really good. And he's proven that now. Really? He was really good at Cal too. He just, there wasn't a lot of great players around him. Now he's proven that at Indiana and he's probably going to be the quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders.
- [17:24]
A
Well, I would also ask Romani, like, are you saying that there's maybe other position players that look more like a number one pick? Are you saying he's not the best Quarterback. Because if you look at those first.
- [17:34]
B
Two picks, my guess in regards, he need quarterbacks as a quarterback, he doesn't look like the number one pick at the quarterback position, which I'd be curious of what he, what he would describe as what that looks like.
- [17:45]
A
And I, I, again, I would, yes, I would love to hear that. But also if you're the Raiders, you're the jets, you're the Cardinals, the teams you, you have to swing at these quarterbacks.
- [17:56]
B
I mean you really, I know it makes me so nervous for these quarterbacks because we talk about, everybody knows you're looking at a lot of these rosters and it's like, oof. And, and they don't have head coaches right like at the moment. So it's like you go to Vegas, you got, you got Brock Bowers, who, who's a stud. You got Ashton Genty, who you know you like, he's. I think he's gonna be really good. They just need so many guys. They don't have a receiver on the outside. You got a disgruntled Max Crosby, he's one of the best players in the league. You look at the jets like, like, yeah, it's just, it's, it's, that's why if you're like a Dante Moore and you know, maybe there's no guarantee number one pick, it's like you start to look at these organizations, you're like, dude, I could be the number one or number two pick next year and five or six million dollars richer and get better. Like, you know, could he win a.
- [18:44]
A
Heisman next year or no?
- [18:45]
B
Oh, and the heist for sure.
- [18:47]
A
Yeah, right.
- [18:48]
B
So yeah, he'd be a pre, pre season Heisman favorite with no nil.
- [18:52]
A
He's 100 coming out though, right? This was 10 years ago. He's coming out.
- [18:56]
B
That's the beauty of nil, honestly, in particular for other sports, like college hoops. Right? Because college hoops, the one and done era. Now it's like some of these guys, you're gonna make two or three million dollars stay in another year. And like basketball, there's only two rounds and you know what I mean? Like, I think that part makes it more fun for college hoops, which I'm sure we'll talk about more as like March Madness comes around. But for nf, for football, it's like you're a qb. It's like, dude, like you're gonna make. Even if you're a projected fifth or sixth round pick, you're making two, three million dollars stay as Long as possible.
- [19:27]
A
You know, I often get asked, you know, about Entourage reboot, and I always hear that word reboot. I, I don't necessarily always imagine it's like us because we're so old. Like if you reboot something, you usually get a new cast, right? Or like so like when I think of it, I used to try to think, what would a 20 now 20, 26 version of Entourage look like? And what it looks like is a college quarterback who's making $7 million to go back to school. That's what Entourage looks like. That's not some actor. It's not Timothy Shalam. It's. It's. It's Dante Moore going back to Oregon. Maybe a million bucks.
- [20:01]
B
Someone needs to write that script, right?
- [20:03]
A
You need to write it. You and I had to write it.
- [20:05]
B
You had like a ballers, right? Ballers had a little bit of. They followed around like athletes and all that, but like post career a little. Yeah. Falling around, following around a quarterback.
- [20:18]
A
We about to cut this out. I want someone, I want someone to steal this.
- [20:21]
B
That's like, hey, when we start our production company, that's the first. That's a project 100.
- [20:26]
A
I keep thinking about it. You mean that's not, not interesting enough to have an 18 year old millionaire?
- [20:32]
B
The greatest part about that is who's going to cast as this guy's turtle? Like that's going to be that. Like that's going to be great.
- [20:38]
A
Hey, turtles are now very important parts of the process. And I think everyone needs a turtle buddy. All right, well, we're going to hit some NFL in a second. And then we got Annie coming on. It's time now. We're going to do our Wendy's fresh take of the week. I wanted to make sure we got all our football college stuff out because I'm, I'm going alternate to sports for a second. But before that, join team Tendies and enjoy a lineup like never before. Crispy, juicy tendies now at Wendy's. Let me give you this fresh take over the break. You know, Bri is very adamant about having our boys try a bunch of different things, whether basketball, piano, swim. Great. Of course, you, you love to be. And we're lucky enough to do that. We live in an awful winter place, right? It's the wall from games.
- [21:25]
B
Terrible.
- [21:26]
A
However, we live 10 minutes away from two ski resorts, like amazing ski resorts. I could be there probably quicker than you could be to the airport. So she signed the boys up for ski club. Right? My six or four year old.
- [21:39]
B
Rad.
- [21:40]
A
It's rad. I've been skiing three times in my life. Once when I was a kid, once in my early 20s, and then once again when I was like 30. Just picture skiing bringing the boys up to a mountain strap.
- [21:55]
B
There's a lot here.
- [21:56]
A
It's, it's, it was a painful process. Again, I'll do anything for them, so I'll continue to do it. But then Bree's telling me you have to ski because you have to ski with them. And my take is I, I'm not into skiing. I don't get it. Why I don't get it because number one, and I'm a gear guy. I love gear. First things first, okay? It is a lot of work to get yourself ready on the lift up the mountain. And then I'm a, I'm a beginner, so I'm not like going on a five minute run. Going to be a 30 second run, and then I'm back down the hill and I weigh back on that line and go back up that lift. Don't get it. I'm not a cold weather guy. The meaning, like activities.
- [22:38]
B
You live in Cleveland, Ohio, and I.
- [22:40]
A
Stay inside and I play on golf simulators and basketball courts.
- [22:44]
B
If I live 10 minutes from a ski resort, my kids would be the next Lindsay V. Dude. Well, my, my kids, my kids would be skiing slalom and downhill and doing backflips off the half pipe. Well, if we had that in our backyard.
- [23:00]
A
Here's my next point on my take though. So what all you don't like, you.
- [23:04]
B
Don'T like the work that comes with.
- [23:05]
A
It and for the, for the payoff. I don't think there's enough payoff because I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'll tell you, I'm not gonna learn enough to go on five minute ski runs. Number two, point. Number two, all the parents who drop their kids off at ski club, who we know, they drop their kids off and then they go skiing for two hours without watching. Right? I talk to a lot of the moms and dads. This one, one mom, one lovely mom says, oh yeah, I got a cracked meniscus from, from last season of skiing. And one dad's like, yeah, I don't have any of my ACL left. I took a really bad fall while skiing. All these mofos are injured, bro. Is there a more easier way to get hurt than skiing?
- [23:47]
B
At 46 years old playing pickup basketball? You probably.
- [23:51]
A
I don't do that anymore. I'm done with that.
- [23:53]
B
Listen, a couple, a couple Things to throw at you at this. First of all, first of all, you know, turn the frown upside down. It's starting. It's time. It's time for you to start to attack this year with, with a little more like, like excitement.
- [24:06]
A
No.
- [24:06]
B
And opportune. Opportunistic, you know, having a good year. I grew up with two trips in my life. We were poor, we didn't have a lot of money. But the two trips that we went on, every year, we went on a houseboat trip in the summer. That's why I love the lake and I love boating. And we went on a ski trip in the winter because my uncle had a condo up in Tahoe up in Northstar. So those are the two things that I, I grew up on and I loved. So those are the two trips that we are currently passing down to our boys and our kids, right? So that in 30 years they're gonna be like, man, the lake trips and this and the ski trips are the best trips ever. And their kids, and their kids. And it's just one of those things. It was our family vacation. Now I will say this. As you get older, it's hard. It's a lot more work. The, the gear, the boots, the constant bitching and complaining. My boots hurt. My feet hurt. That's the one where I'm just like, dude, shut up. And you're gonna. It's supposed to hurt.
- [25:00]
A
This is fun. Damn it.
- [25:02]
B
There's two things with the kids when you see them and to go on the, to the lift with them and to see them skiing and to see the joy and you see like your kids charge a mountain fog back up. That's awesome. The second thing I pray opera skiing is the greatest thing that was ever invented. You ski for a couple hours in the morning, dude, from about 9am to about 11, 11:30, while the kids are in ski club because breeze onto something here. So you need to join her. You go hit that, that, that mid mountain bar and you go get you, you know, you go get you a.
- [25:34]
A
Nice, nice drink, a little hot toddy.
- [25:37]
B
Listen, we're on Wendy's here right now. So you get yourself a nice, you know, opera skiing. You sit down, you with your friends, you got a little fire pit. You watch, you people watch as the, as the skiers go down the mountain making fun of them all that, dude, that's the greatest hour of my life. On a, on a ski trip, dude, there's nothing. Because it hits you a little quicker, hits you a little harder, then you go down and then and then. Yeah, and then you go in the hot tub at night when it feels good. Now, listen, I don't know how clean. I'm trying to picture Cleveland, Ohio, ski resorts.
- [26:06]
A
It's just pure ski. No, you're going there for the ski.
- [26:08]
B
I can't really vision it right now.
- [26:10]
A
Because you go home when you're done.
- [26:11]
B
Yeah, I just. I just can't envision that. But the moral of the story is you need to start. You need to start being positive. You need to start being positive. I need to see you. I need to see you charging the mountain. I need. I need Brie to video you skiing down a mountain this. This winter.
- [26:28]
A
I feel like if I have to give up pickup basketball out of fear of getting injured, I. I'm gonna trade that with starting to ski. It seems counterproductive.
- [26:36]
B
Listen, dude, about. I don't even know, five, six years ago, I was skiing in Aspen and little. And. And I swear to God, I saw Jesus, dude. I saw Jesus. I hit a. I hit a. And I'm like. I'm a good. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a moderate skier. I can do black.
- [26:53]
A
Oh, meaning, like, you almost died.
- [26:55]
B
Oh, yeah, dude. I saw Jesus. So I'm with you on that. Oh, I was going. And, like, I can. I'm a good skier. I've skied a ton. I cruise.
- [27:03]
A
I got tall guys typically do well with skiing.
- [27:06]
B
I feel like it's a little hard. The fall is a lot harder. That's what I'm getting.
- [27:09]
A
Yeah.
- [27:10]
B
So I'm skiing down, and I'm not even, like. I'm like. You know, there's. There's points in. In skiing. If you're listening, it's like, you go down the hill, it flattens out for a little bit, and then it, like, kind of goes up to the next hill. Right?
- [27:22]
A
Like, so then.
- [27:23]
B
So usually when you kind of go down at the end, you kind of just, you know, you. You start to go really fast so you can get some speed going flat. And then you go up. Like, there's no bumps. There's no nothing. Well, I was doing that, and for whatever reason, I hit an edge on my ski, and. Dude. And I. And it was flat, so it's hard. I fell, and I'm big, and I fell, and I probably slid. I'm not even. I'm not exaggerating. 50 to 60 yards on. On the snow.
- [27:47]
A
Oh, my God.
- [27:47]
B
And when I fell and I say, I saw Jesus, bro. I saw. I saw. I thought I was gone. And I'm like, you know, like, just. And Josie was behind me probably, like, Josie's a really good skier. 100 yards behind me. You know, we're just cruising. We're going down, right? And all my. All my skis are off, my poles are all over the place, and I'm laying on my back, and I open my eyes, and the first thing I do is start, like, moving. Like, did I break a bone? Something? And, dude, nothing happened. I think I bruised, like, my ribs hurt. Like, I had some, like, rib thing, but I was fine. But, dude, in that moment that you.
- [28:20]
A
Had no idea where you were gonna end up?
- [28:22]
B
No, I thought I was good. I thought. I thought I was gonna have a bleed and, like, die later in the night. Like, that's what I was like, whatever. But I ended up being fine. But since then, to your point, I have just been like, I'm cautious when I ski, but I love it.
- [28:37]
A
I.
- [28:37]
B
There's no point in me trying to go fast. I'm not trying to do freaking moguls.
- [28:42]
A
You're not Lindsey Vaughn, bro. You're not Lindsay.
- [28:44]
B
But I am Matthew Steven liner. And I like to enjoy a nice ski run. So get your ass together, dude. Please.
- [28:51]
A
Shout outs to Wendy's. That's our first take of the week. Take a quick break. We're gonna talk some NFL and bring in Annie Agar. All right, coming back, Annie Agar is going to join us in a second for some twisted T trivia. I thought Matt, before we get to Annie, let's do. Just going into this first round, let's just do our three playoff questions, our dire, burning playoff questions. We'll go kind of snake draft it and see where we end up. And I think we got to make some super bowl picks. It's time.
- [29:24]
B
Yes.
- [29:25]
A
So do you want to lead off? You want me to lead off?
- [29:27]
B
I'll lead off. I think the first round matchup that I think is fascinating and intriguing. Philly Eagles versus the 49ers. Because you talk about Philly all year long. And it was like this up and down season in the offense, and there was just like that, like the locker room divide with AJ Brown, Jalen Hurts and all of this stuff in the media making it a lot, probably a lot about nothing. Here they are really, really, really great. Still. Still think maybe the best roster in football still. Top two or three roster. Here they are in the playoffs again, and a. And a legit super bowl contender going up against. What I said. I think I said it a couple weeks ago, but going up against The San Francisco 49ers, who for whatever reason, like, people aren't really considering them a favorite. And I think they're a legit favorite to win the super bowl as well. I mean, the pieces they have, the defense is a little spotty, but that offensive way, Brock Purse. So I think, I think you have two teams that, that very well could win the Super Bowl. The winner of this could win the Super Bowl. So I just think that's a fascinating matchup that could go either way.
- [30:39]
A
Yeah, a lot, you know, to me, like with the Niners got. I know there's been rumors of Fred Warner coming back. I don't like does he come back?
- [30:47]
B
I mean, they've been great without him, too. And if he even comes back, like.
- [30:50]
A
It'S, it's funny because, like, what, Shannon's probably not going to win coach of the year. If he would have maybe won that Seattle game, maybe he would have got it because what he's done with a decimated defense. No Bosa, it's pretty 12 and 5.
- [31:01]
B
In a, in a tough division, so.
- [31:03]
A
The best division in football, probably. No, I'm anticipating that game. All right, that was question one.
- [31:08]
B
All right, so big thing this year is especially in the afc, right? We have no Mahomes or Chiefs. We have no Lamar and the Ravens, Bengals and Burrow. So a lot of the focus and the, the narrative has been on Josh Allen and the Bills. And I think the AFC to me is just wide open. Like, Broncos are one seed, the Patriots are a two seed. I, you still, you look at the Patriots, you're like, how in the world did this team get there? But credit Variable and Drake May, they've been great. Josh Allen and the Bills. I don't want to say is this a must win super bowl for Josh Allen because I think that's dumb because it's just so hard to get there no matter what. But the window is open still. He doesn't have to play Mahomes or Lamar. Is this the year that Josh Allen and Buffalo get over the hump and, and do they need to get over the hump to win a Super Bowl?
- [31:58]
A
So I, I, I certainly think that.
- [32:00]
B
And I know you're not a Josh Allen and Buffalo Bills fan.
- [32:02]
A
No, I, I'm a big Josh Allen fan. What I worry about with the Bills is what I tell my nephew all the time, is I just don't like those receivers, you know, And I know like James Cook is amazing, led the league in rushing. You know, Cooks, he just may help.
- [32:18]
B
A little Bit he has to be Superman.
- [32:21]
A
Superman. And he can be. And I do think he will be. I would say I do think he does get there. Does he win the Super Bowl? That we could have a different discussion about because we'll talk about maybe our matchups in a second.
- [32:32]
B
I mean, you look at Jackson. Do you like Bills play Jacksonville? I mean, Jacksonville's good, but like, do you trust Buffalo and Josh in the playoffs?
- [32:40]
A
I hate that they're going on the road for a lot of this, you know, I know it doesn't matter, but they really are one of the teams that has a significant home field advantage to me, you know? Yeah. I do think. And Alan, you could speak to this like is just the mental factor of knowing, hey, we just don't have to see Mahomes because every time he had a rise to the occasion.
- [33:02]
B
He did.
- [33:03]
A
He did rise.
- [33:03]
B
But Josh Allen was always great. Yeah. They just always found.
- [33:06]
A
Scored too soon. Last year they left like they would never.
- [33:10]
B
I guarantee you they say this and look all of these other teams, you can't look past any team because it's NFL and especially in the AFC where it's wide open. But you start to look, you're like, no, Mahomes and the Chiefs. So that's just gone, right? Baltimore is a tough place to play and Lamar is great, man. Like, Lamar is one of one. Like, you start to look at this and you're like, as you know, you got to play Bo Nix, right. Who's been great. But like, you're playing a lot of these. Drake May like, a lot of these guys don't have playoff experience. Right. You have Steelers, a Steelers team that limped in the playoffs. And A Rod's one of the greatest all time and all that. And the Texans of Texans, the hottest team in the, in the NFL. But like, you're looking as. As Josh Allen and the Bills, you're like, you're like, guys, you're like, this is. We got a shot. Right? Like that's just. That's just there. They don't even have to say it out loud because they know the Chargers with Justin Herbert. Right. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised the Chargers go to New England and beat the Patriots.
- [34:03]
A
Well, that's what I was. The way they're built.
- [34:05]
B
Yeah.
- [34:05]
A
There's a world where if the Chargers.
- [34:08]
B
Do that, you know, Buffalo gets. I think they.
- [34:11]
A
Well, Buffalo would be Buffalo then would go to the winner of Houston. Pittsburgh, because then the cl. The Chargers would play the Broncos in Denver and then they would go to the Winner of Houston, Pittsburgh. And you know, that game is a complete toss up to me because I like Houston and their defense's playing great.
- [34:27]
B
And that defense is nasty.
- [34:28]
A
They are going to Pittsburgh. And I'm just saying Rogers has been crafty.
- [34:34]
B
The same in the NFC with like, Caleb being like, there is something about young quarterbacks going to the playoffs, not having experience. Like, it's a different ball game. I've been there. I've, I've witnessed it. It's like it's just ramped up even more. Right. So it's going to be fascinating. I can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait.
- [34:49]
A
Well, let's close and bring on Annie. But before we close, let's just do it now because the playoffs haven't started yet. And then we could check back on this. But right now you have to answer because I know everyone's holding off. I don't want to give my super bowl predictions, but for throwbacks and our listeners, let's give our super bowl predictions. Who's getting there? Who's winning? I can go first if you want, or I could concede to you.
- [35:11]
B
I'll, I'll, I'll go. Because I think we're going to have different ones.
- [35:14]
A
Okay.
- [35:16]
B
This is more of just kind of going with my heart and what I hope happens, but I think Buffalo gets out of the afc. I do. I'm rooting for Josh Allen. Love that, dude. I. I think the team is good enough to get there for sure. So I got Buffalo. And this one is hard, man, because the NFC is freaking tough. But I, I was, I was going back and forth, but I think it's the Rams. I think the Rams, I know they're maybe the favorite to win it right now, but the Rams first round against the Panthers, then obviously with Seattle being the number one seed. I'm just. I'm just not sure I think we're going to get a Bills, Rams Super Bowl. With the Rams winning the Super Bowl. Oh, Josh Allen falls short winning the super bowl. Up in Santa Clara, up in California, Stafford gets the super bowl, retires on top. And you have to put him as one of the greatest of all time. You have to. You have to think about it.
- [36:13]
A
Yeah. If he wins, he gets the MVP as well. Two time super bowl winner, but also the longevity MVP this year.
- [36:21]
B
He might. He should. He should be league mvp. Him or obviously, I think Dre. I mean, whatever. Yeah, we'll see. But that's. I'm so. I'm going. Bills, Rams.
- [36:30]
A
What I. What I love to bring up always about Stafford is like, literally, I, you could say always play with great receivers. Sure. That's like the knock on his MVP case. Oh, he's got Puka, he's got Devonte, I'm sure. But like he's throwing those balls. He did it with Calvin Johnson, he did it with Cooper cup, he did it with Puka. He like, yes, those are great receivers, but like you've seen great receivers.
- [36:50]
B
There's two, there's two quarterbacks in the, there's more but like two in the modern era that are, that are elite throwers. That, that, that when, if you saw it in person, you'd be like, man, that's beautiful. One is Aaron Rodgers and one is Matt Stafford. I'm just telling you right now, I've seen them both and there's a lot of guys have big arms and, and all that. But, but, but the way they can throw and spin it and the flick of the wrist and all of that. Stafford is right up there and he's still doing it. Like they're both still doing it. I mean, 42, 43 and freaking 38 or whatever Stafford is.
- [37:25]
A
So I could tell you right now what the most hilarious super mat ball matchup would be, would be Jaguars, Panthers, the two teams that came in at the same time.
- [37:34]
B
Some, some network won't be happy with that one.
- [37:37]
A
Well, I was about to say if there's ever a fix, like if, if Jacksonville got in and clinched the AFC and then you were watching a Panthers NFC championship game, you could bet the house on whatever team's playing the Panthers because they ain't going to get any call. They, that would be the biggest fix game of all. That would come directly from up top.
- [37:53]
B
Who are you? Who's your pick? Who's the matchup?
- [37:57]
A
You know, I hear you with Buffalo and I, I, I certainly can see it, but I, I'm just so leery.
- [38:02]
B
I don't feel great about it. I don't feel great about it.
- [38:04]
A
So leery of the receivers. I really, honestly, a team that everyone's going to kind of forget about. I think the Broncos get in, I think that first round buy is going to be huge for them. I think playing in that environment is going to be huge. They have the coach Bo Nix has made every big play he's had.
- [38:19]
B
Very good man.
- [38:20]
A
And we've seen them come back from huge. Definitely kind of have everything you need to survive a playoff run. So I'm going Denver. And as much as I, I really hate to say my NFC matchup I. I think the packers sneak in.
- [38:37]
B
Packers.
- [38:38]
A
I think the packers sneak in.
- [38:40]
B
No way.
- [38:41]
A
I think you always have a team that gets hot and goes on a run. I think the Packers. I don't think I know the Eagles. Like, I believe you that no one tanks and plays the matchup game like the NBA. I can tell you what, I don't think the Eagles wanted any part of the packers in the first round. Not saying they tanked their. Their game to get the two seed. I don't believe that to be true. But I don't think they were that mad about it. I don't think the Eagles were mad about not having to face the Packers.
- [39:09]
B
Oh, man, I don't know.
- [39:11]
A
I mean, they rested everybody. They're gonna have Jacobs. I mean, obviously I would love it more if they had Micah Parsons. That would really be a pick. But I'm sticking with. I think they might have some magic.
- [39:21]
B
So you. So I, I had this question too before we. We move on with. With Annie and stuff, which you obviously the Broncos and God's gonna ask you which number one seed do you think will lose first?
- [39:31]
A
Clearly Seattle Seahawks up in Seattle.
- [39:34]
B
That may be the toughest place to play.
- [39:37]
A
Yeah.
- [39:37]
B
And they're rocking.
- [39:38]
A
Amazing. Let's just look. We gotta see our boy Darnold, the red Hammer in a big time spot. And I do think he can do it, but I'm not betting on it. And maybe I'm an idiot and I might be an idiot. I'm not betting on, on my guy. Darnold the red Hammer.
- [39:53]
B
So I got, I got Bills, Rams. With the Rams winning. Who do you have?
- [39:57]
A
Packers, Broncos.
- [39:58]
B
Who do you have winning The Broncos. The Broncos winning the Super Bowl.
- [40:03]
A
It's going to be what, like, similar to the NBA last year. Thunder, Pacers. Like, that's a hot.
- [40:08]
B
That's a hot take, dude.
- [40:09]
A
Who would have picked Thunders Pacers last year? We might have picked Thunder, but like Pace and the Pacers took him to game seven. We almost like, I think we're gonna have a bizarre. We're gonna look back at this year and be like, that was the weirdest.
- [40:19]
B
Year of Super Bowl. Super bowl before we go, super bowl mvp. I'm going with Matt Stafford, actually.
- [40:27]
A
Yeah, I'm going, I'm going with a defensive player. I'm gonna go with like Bonito. It's gonna be like we're gonna bring it back to a defensive player.
- [40:35]
B
Bonito with the, with three sacks in the Super Bowl.
- [40:38]
A
Exactly.
- [40:38]
B
There you had it.
- [40:39]
A
Exactly. All right, let's. Let's let's get our good friend Annie. All right. Joining us as she does each and every week, Annie Agar, courtesy of Twisted Tea. Grab a refreshing twisted Tea today, which I just might do because I get to kick back and relax a little bit today.
- [40:56]
C
Good for you.
- [40:57]
A
Welcome, Annie. First of all, how was your, how was your break? Are you. I mean, not really a full break. You were still out there working. Video was awesome this week.
- [41:04]
C
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I took, I always take, try to take one week off of the meeting videos around the holidays just to prioritize family. So I did that week 17. Then we were back week 18, and man, it was a good one. It's a good week of football.
- [41:16]
B
How are we feeling about your first round matchup? I mean, let's just get it out there.
- [41:20]
C
You know what? First of all, Nick Sirianni, have a bone to pick with him because we would have played Philly, which I don't think I would have felt better about, like the Bears.
- [41:27]
B
Yeah, I would have felt worse about Rock.
- [41:29]
C
I felt way worse about Philly. They always figured out late in the season, too, like playoff time. You realize how Philly's roster is actually crazy, but. No, I feel, I feel better about this Bears matchup than I thought I would. Packers fans are feeling really confident because we got Trayvon Diggs, so our defense is looking a little bit better. We can actually tackle with his arms, believe it or not.
- [41:49]
A
Trayvon Diggs.
- [41:50]
B
That's why you guys are excited.
- [41:53]
C
That's a low bar match. It's a low bar. No, no, but I, I think I feel a little bit better about the Bears.
- [41:59]
B
The Bears beat the packers twice this year, right?
- [42:02]
C
No, we split.
- [42:03]
B
Oh, you split. Okay. Yeah. I was gonna say it's. It's tough to beat a team three times.
- [42:06]
A
Well, you essentially had a bye week the last week. Right, Right.
- [42:08]
C
And we rested our guys good. And the Bears and, and Ben Johnson took a little dig at Matt and he was like, oh, we don't rest our players. You know, we want to sit. Okay.
- [42:18]
B
Fresh going.
- [42:18]
C
All right, well, okay, what Vikings?
- [42:21]
A
What? I always look at playoff games, whether it's basketball, football. Like, who's the, what is the thing that scares you the most about the. The Bears? Like, whether it's a player or a play or a thing that you might not be able to stop. What's the thing that scares you most as a Packer?
- [42:35]
C
Definitely Ben Johnson. Caleb. Caleb's not great. Like, he, he didn't play. He didn't have a great game. Other than that throw in the fourth quarter against us two games ago, he didn't look.
- [42:45]
B
Which was an absolute dime.
- [42:46]
C
Which was a dot. Yeah, but other than that, great.
- [42:50]
B
Other than that. In the crucial get part of the game, you know?
- [42:53]
C
But Ben Johnson schemes him up so well. And their defense doesn't scare me. Like, yeah, they get a ton of takeaways, but they can't stop our guy. Like, they couldn't. They couldn't shut down a good offense, which I think on occasion we have. So I think Ben Johnson, just the way he's going to scheme up that game is going to be scary.
- [43:09]
A
Is there a better.
- [43:10]
B
Go ahead, Andy.
- [43:11]
C
Sorry, I just. He's got something against Matt LaFleur. Like, there's a heated rivalry there, at least on his side.
- [43:16]
B
So look at. Look at. We talk about coaches and we talk about how important coaches are, especially coordinators. Look at the Lions what happened this year on offense, and look at what he's done with Caleb and the Bears in his first year.
- [43:28]
C
It's.
- [43:28]
B
It's wild. If you get an elite coach like that, it can completely turn around a program or at least one side of the ball.
- [43:35]
C
Yeah, I think that's what we're seeing, especially with this whole coaching carousel now. Like, Liam Cohen totally changed the Jags off.
- [43:40]
B
Right. I still can't believe that the jags are, what, 12 and 4? 13.
- [43:46]
C
And I think they'll take. I think they'll go on a deep run here.
- [43:49]
B
Are they very trendy? Worst 13 and 4 team of all time?
- [43:53]
A
No, they're good.
- [43:55]
B
Are they?
- [43:55]
C
If they make it to the super bowl, they're gonna flex that game.
- [43:57]
A
Can you name.
- [43:58]
B
Can you name four guys on their defense?
- [44:00]
A
Jerry Heinz, Travis Hunter.
- [44:07]
B
It doesn't count.
- [44:08]
A
If I thought, if I sat down, thought about it, I could probably scrape together one.
- [44:11]
C
That's the wild thing, too, is Travis Hunters contributed zero and they look this good.
- [44:16]
B
No, I know. It's incredible. They're. They're.
- [44:17]
A
Well, this is a perfect segue because before we get into trivia and we have a new wrinkle in the trivia this week, I really.
- [44:23]
B
It doesn't involve you. Oh, sorry.
- [44:26]
A
I really did think of you. Annie. When all these coaches started getting fired immediately on Monday and coordinators like Kingsbury's gone.
- [44:33]
B
Right.
- [44:34]
A
John Martin, and I started thinking, obviously every fan base is, you know, writing, oh, this. Like, people are going out on a limb. Like, I don't know how the jets aren't going to throw the bag at Harbaugh. Like, why on earth Would Harbaugh want to go to the Jets? I don't know, but I thought of you because you study these coaches. You make amazing content each and every week where you are highlighting the inefficiencies of these coordinators and coaches. So my question for you, from a content perspective, who are you gonna miss the most in their job?
- [45:08]
C
That is a great question.
- [45:10]
A
I know. I didn't want to give you a heads up on it, but it was so.
- [45:13]
C
This was so hard, too, because when Josh McDaniels got fired as the Raiders coach after a year, I was so bummed because he was in every video. And it's. And it's like you said, it's not that I'm just, like, making fun of the guy. Like, when I play the teams, I'm just playing the team. Right. But the coaches have a personality. So, like Arthur Blank, Sirianni, and I love. I love him. Sirianni and, And. And Petullo, Kevin Petullo, I love, like, I embody that person. I feel like. So. It's just so sad when they leave. Fortunately, they usually go, you know, someplace else. So. I mean, the Harbaugh thing was big because I played him a lot.
- [45:51]
A
I feel like Stefanski made the cut a few times.
- [45:55]
C
Yeah.
- [45:55]
B
Well, you're gonna. You're gonna get Mike McCarthy back in the mix, probably.
- [45:59]
C
Oh, would that be fun?
- [46:01]
B
Yeah.
- [46:02]
A
You're gonna.
- [46:02]
B
You're gonna get him back in the mix.
- [46:03]
C
Yeah. I saw the Giant.
- [46:04]
B
Kingsbury's name is getting thrown around as a head coach. There's a. There's a couple new names.
- [46:10]
A
Has anyone been fired from OC and then moved right up to a head coaching job?
- [46:15]
C
Didn't Josh McDaniels. I think he was the. Was he with the Broncos? I don't know. Yeah. That's gonna be wild.
- [46:22]
A
What? Well, to you and Matt jump in here, too, because, you know, there's. There's six or seven jobs open, whatever the number is. What do you guys think is the most attractive job offer? If you're a Harbaugh or Stefanski or even, like, Shula or, you know, Kubiak, if you're looking and taking. Because think about. Stefanski is going to meet with the Giants, the Raiders, the jets, like, now there's even Bucks rumors. I don't know if Bowles, whatever.
- [46:49]
C
But in terms of talent, Baltimore, obviously. But then the Giant, it's. It's the front offices that are holding people back because the Giants have a ton of talent. Obviously. Jackson Darts got a huge ceiling. But then you're dealing with Joe Shane. So you're like stuck in this cycle of. Yeah, the GM's gonna just limit my ability a ton, I think.
- [47:10]
A
And my draft pick.
- [47:11]
C
And my draft pick. Yeah. Like Browns, Andrew Barry, they have to deal with now. I, I would say talent wise, probably like the most appealing would be Baltimore.
- [47:20]
B
Yeah. You have a two time NFL mvp. You have a good roster, a winning organization and you talk about the, you know, at the top, you know, the president, the gm, all that Baltimore is a. Can we just talk about really quick and we've talked about kickers on this show and I don't want to like, I feel awful for the kid, honestly I do. It's more about Harbaugh. If he makes that kick. Harbaugh is not fired.
- [47:46]
C
Yeah.
- [47:46]
B
Isn't that crazy? And then now again, I don't, I don't think you make a knee jerk reaction like that. I'm sure this was something that's been talked about clearly. Because, because at some point it's like, okay, fresh, you know, obviously fresh mindset, fresh culture, fresh voice, all of these things, right. Like it kind of felt like Baltimore's hit a wall with and like they just, you know, like they, they can't get over the hump. But if they make that kick and they win that game, they're in the playoffs and Harbaugh and maybe they make a run. Right. Like that's the crazy thing about the football. That's just a crazy.
- [48:16]
C
Somebody had, they put a picture of the goalposts, you know, with the kick and they had in the middle, Mike Tomlin fired. Harbaugh fired. Harbaugh fired. So like if he missed, it was Harbaugh. If you made it, it was Tomlin.
- [48:27]
B
I think, I think, I think the Giants are attractive like you said, with dart and some young and a defense.
- [48:32]
A
And a pass rush at least.
- [48:33]
B
Yeah. But there's still, there's just still a lot of holes there. Like and, and you talk about like it's still something, you know, to keep an eye on. And then you know, the Raiders are interesting, right? Like number one pick, you have the number one pick. You have a great stadium. The roster isn't great, but you have bout you have a couple young pieces to build around and you got to hit right on your qb, right. Whether that's. Maybe it's Mendoza, maybe it's Dante Moore if he comes out. But. And you got Tom Brady and you got some guys up there at the top now that might have a little more influence. Influence. So it's Going to be interesting.
- [49:06]
A
I feel like too. I, you know, I, I think I wouldn't. Would you be surprised if there's some kind of trade with Crosby where they somehow get maybe another first round pick? Like there's. I don't think. I don't know if they keep all those pieces. And it was weird how Crosby didn't play and he was pissed and stormed out of the building like there couldn't.
- [49:23]
C
Because when the Lions were looking for him that he was like, oh, I'm a Raider. Like I'm not leaving there and then to just kind of turn on him. The organization I would be.
- [49:31]
B
I think another one that's interesting is Arizona and. And I know the track record. But you have really good young pieces. Like you have like McBride as you know, is a stud. Marvin Harrison Jr. I still think can get there. They need a quarter. They need to solve a quarterback issue too. They've. Defense has been actually pretty good. Tough division. But I think Arizona is an interesting one to kind of keep an eye on because you have some young pieces there as well. So.
- [49:58]
C
Yeah, we talked about that on the show. Trey McBride had like the best season ever. No one, no one knows.
- [50:02]
A
Yeah, he. He did the best Brock Bowers impersonation and idiots like me who drafted Brock Bowers are like, wow, I really.
- [50:10]
C
What a year.
- [50:11]
A
Well, I hear all that. I do wonder with the Baltimore thing, like, is Lamar gonna be a Raven? Was it like a Harbaugh or. Or Lamar kind of situation? Similarly too with like Burrow. Are we. I know they're bringing back ever your boy Nick Lachey. Man, Andy, I don't know if you've seen this. I'll send it to you.
- [50:28]
B
Or go.
- [50:29]
A
Just one of the biggest Bengal fans ever. He's like advised the team before he wrote a 500 word Instagram post right after they announced they're bringing back Taylor and all the coaches. And he just like every disgruntled fan. He was in the heart of every disgruntled fan with this post. And then there's.
- [50:50]
B
I'm Facetiming him right now. I'm gonna see if he answers.
- [50:52]
A
Yeah, he's trying to read into his Joe Burrow. Then post something with Kanye's good Life where in the song it like, it feels like la. It feels like Miami. They're like, oh, he's going to Miami. Burrow's gone. We've reached that level with the band.
- [51:05]
C
Wow.
- [51:06]
B
He's not gonna answer.
- [51:07]
A
It's all right. He's hard. He's upset. Man. I Don't know.
- [51:10]
C
Yeah, he wants to talk.
- [51:11]
A
He might not want to talk about.
- [51:12]
C
I don't know how you keep Zach Taylor. That's just crazy to me. Somebody tweeted out, if it's broke, don't fix it. That's like the Bengals. The Bengals.
- [51:21]
A
I think.
- [51:21]
B
I think. I think. I think Baltimore also knows what they're going to do at that. I think they know who they want. You know, I think that that's a calculated. It's calculated me. There's some more like. I think they know who they're going to go get. It's a. I mean, who would you.
- [51:37]
C
Yeah.
- [51:40]
B
I think mentor. Mentor is an interesting one for me.
- [51:43]
A
I like Shula and Kubiak. I like those guys coming out. The coordinator thing has really worked.
- [51:49]
B
They need. I mean, they need. Yeah, they need a coordinator to continue to develop.
- [51:53]
C
I've heard Lane Kiffin's available.
- [51:55]
B
Is he, though? Lane's living a good life down in the bayou.
- [52:01]
A
Well, Annie, you are in the spotlight today because I in our last episode weeks ago said if I lose this week, I need a buy. I need to sit out. I need to. I need a bye week. I need to go real get reacquainted with the offense. And I thought. I think it would be really fitting.
- [52:19]
C
You're resting your starters.
- [52:20]
A
This is for you to sit in this hot seat that I've been with liner just destroying me for weeks on end. So are you up for the challenge number one?
- [52:28]
C
I hope so.
- [52:29]
A
All right.
- [52:30]
C
I don't know.
- [52:30]
A
This starts.
- [52:31]
B
I can't believe you're throwing in the towel, dude.
- [52:35]
A
I just.
- [52:35]
B
This is a new year.
- [52:36]
C
I'm going to miss, like, debate about who. Who answered in a glass.
- [52:42]
B
I need you to be a glass half full guy this year, not a glass half empty.
- [52:45]
A
I just need someone.
- [52:47]
B
My resolution for you.
- [52:48]
A
I need someone to go through what I go through so I could find out if I'm crazy or not. And that's what we're gonna.
- [52:54]
B
Yeah, I can't wait for Annie to kick my ass, too.
- [52:57]
A
I think it's going again.
- [52:59]
C
Way too much confidence, but I appreciate it.
- [53:01]
A
Same format. We're gonna do three questions and two pictures. And, you know, I'll give. I'll tell you what the theme of the pictures is so you're not going in completely blind. We're going to start with the questions. Matt, are you ready?
- [53:13]
C
This is already a lot more fun when I know the answers, but.
- [53:16]
A
Okay, Annie, you. Matt, we're ready. Here we go. Question number one. Who was the last wild card team to win a Super Bowl.
- [53:25]
C
Oh, my gosh. To win a Super Bowl.
- [53:28]
A
To win a Super Bowl. Wild card team winning a Super Bowl.
- [53:32]
B
Careful, Annie. If you don't guess, that's waiting for.
- [53:35]
A
You to screw up.
- [53:36]
C
So then I get a hit.
- [53:37]
B
If you guess, then I get a. Then I get a free guess.
- [53:39]
A
Matt gets a free kind of guess. And did they.
- [53:42]
C
Were they a wild card?
- [53:43]
A
I could give a hint if need be.
- [53:46]
C
I'm just gonna throw a name. A Seattle.
- [53:48]
A
Seattle Seahawks. That is incorrect.
- [53:50]
B
No, I'll take a hint, please. For 400 Drake.
- [53:53]
A
I'll say it's within the last six years. That's the best I could do at the moment. Wait, don't say it because you're. You're not. This is Matt's rule. You're not allowed to talk.
- [54:03]
C
Okay?
- [54:03]
A
You can't talk. You can't talk right now. You have to wait on him to take his sweet time.
- [54:07]
C
Dang it. This is painful. Jerry, thank you. I think we're. Wow.
- [54:13]
B
I have. I have one team and I.
- [54:14]
A
You gotta throw it out there or else we have to give it back to Andy.
- [54:16]
B
I'm gonna go. The Rams.
- [54:18]
A
Rams are incorrect.
- [54:20]
C
Bengals.
- [54:21]
A
Bengals. They did the Super Bowl. They did not win the Super Bowl.
- [54:27]
B
Hit number two. Number two.
- [54:29]
A
Hit number two. The team had a Hall of Fame quarterback not in the hall of Fame, but will by far easily be in.
- [54:37]
C
The hall of Fame the last six years.
- [54:39]
B
The last six years.
- [54:41]
A
I mean, I. I would have got this one.
- [54:43]
B
Guys.
- [54:43]
A
I know. I'm looking at the answer.
- [54:44]
C
You would have gotten this.
- [54:44]
A
I would have got. With that. With those two hints. I would have gotten it.
- [54:48]
B
I mean.
- [54:51]
A
Oh, no. We're on the homes. Annie, last guess and I'll just. We'll call it. No, no question. Go ahead.
- [54:58]
C
Team.
- [54:59]
A
The Bucks were a wild card team. 2020. New Orleans won the division at like 13 and 3 or 12 and 12 and 4. The Bucks were 11 and 5 and went on that magical. This is where.
- [55:12]
B
This is where this game gets out of hand after we guess 19 times. But.
- [55:16]
A
Okay, 10 agar. Let's go. Question number two. JSN was first in receiving yards this year. Puka Nakua was second in receiving yards this year. Who finished third in receiving yards this season?
- [55:32]
C
Yeah. We raise our hand.
- [55:34]
A
Who.
- [55:34]
C
Can I just spit it out? Yeah. Dang it. We should have just answered.
- [55:37]
A
Matt says Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase. Incorrect.
- [55:41]
C
No. Puka.
- [55:44]
B
JSN in receiving yards.
- [55:45]
A
Receiving yards. Puka 2. JSN 1. Who is 3.
- [55:50]
C
Oh, my God, this is terrible.
- [55:52]
A
So much fun being on this side.
- [55:55]
C
I have a second computer over here. Wait. Wait a second. It's not in receiving yards. It's not Saint Brown, is it?
- [56:06]
B
No.
- [56:06]
A
No receiving yards.
- [56:09]
B
All right, so we get a hint. I think I. I think I have an idea.
- [56:15]
C
Jason Puka. Jamal.
- [56:16]
A
We'll start with this.
- [56:19]
C
No.
- [56:19]
A
Do you want to venture a guess?
- [56:21]
C
No, I already. Well, all right.
- [56:23]
A
How about this? I'll give you a hint. I wouldn't even say he's. He's. He's not universally known as the number one receiver on his team.
- [56:32]
C
Can I ask a question? No, that doesn't. That would make sense.
- [56:35]
A
I mean, he's not considered the number one receiver on his team.
- [56:40]
C
On his team. Yep.
- [56:42]
B
Who killed.
- [56:43]
A
He would be considered the, like, the number two receiver on his team.
- [56:47]
B
Oh, George Pickens.
- [56:49]
A
Correct.
- [56:51]
C
Oh, I was thinking A.J. brown. Oh, man.
- [56:55]
A
I'm trying to not give, like, direct hints of. Trying to.
- [56:58]
B
Yeah, that was good. That was good.
- [57:00]
A
Okay, last one on the questions is 1. 1. Which team currently holds the longest playoff drought?
- [57:09]
C
Playoff drought? Wait, they Dolphins?
- [57:12]
B
No, no, they just made the playoff 2022.
- [57:15]
C
Oh, playoff drought is in the.
- [57:17]
A
They have not.
- [57:18]
B
Come on, Andy.
- [57:19]
A
This is where you can't.
- [57:20]
C
I know this. I know it.
- [57:21]
A
I feel like you said it. I feel like you said it.
- [57:24]
C
And you stopped, I think won a playoff game, but they.
- [57:26]
B
Yeah, it's got to be the New York Jets.
- [57:30]
A
Correct?
- [57:30]
C
Yeah.
- [57:31]
A
You said jet. You Annie. You went jet Annie.
- [57:36]
B
You're in. You're in trouble now because pict. My game.
- [57:39]
A
Pictures are my game. You're getting dragged into the liner.
- [57:42]
C
Deep water in a video, too. It's been like 20 years.
- [57:45]
A
You said, go look at the videotape, everybody. She went J. And you stopped.
- [57:50]
C
I know. A playoff game. How stupid. All right.
- [57:54]
A
Two, one liner. And now you're going into. You're going into the territory. You don't want to be stupid.
- [58:01]
B
It's not true. She could be great at visual, you know?
- [58:03]
C
I don't know Matt knows anybody.
- [58:05]
A
And everybody here is the category. The last team to make the playoffs with a below hundred record was the 20. Is it the 2014 Panthers? Yes.
- [58:16]
B
They did it again.
- [58:18]
A
So we're going to give you pictures from that season.
- [58:21]
C
Okay.
- [58:22]
A
Okay.
- [58:22]
B
From 2014.
- [58:23]
A
Roll.
- [58:24]
C
You just have to name the player.
- [58:25]
A
Yeah.
- [58:26]
B
Are they car. Are they Carolina players?
- [58:28]
A
Yes. The pant. That t. That actual team. The 2014 Panthers.
- [58:31]
B
Oh, got it.
- [58:32]
A
Let's see. Picture number one.
- [58:35]
C
Luke Kely.
- [58:36]
A
Correct. Wow.
- [58:38]
B
Can I. Can I say something? Really quick.
- [58:40]
A
What?
- [58:42]
B
She said the name before the picture popped up on my screen. I'm just letting.
- [58:46]
A
No, no, no, no.
- [58:48]
B
I'm just letting you know. I'm letting you know.
- [58:50]
C
Is my WI fi that much better?
- [58:52]
B
It's totally fine.
- [58:54]
A
Getting the. The thing out.
- [58:56]
B
She said Luke Kikley and then his name popped up. I didn't even have a chance to say it. I'm not lying.
- [59:00]
A
All right, you guys, do you guys both want to close your eyes and then I'll tell you when to open them?
- [59:04]
C
That's a good idea.
- [59:05]
B
Yeah, that could be good. Yeah. It literally just happened.
- [59:07]
A
Okay, this is the tie break. It's two. Two. So both you close your eyes. Do not cheat. Okay, give me picture number two. And when I see it, I will tell you to open your eyes. Picture number two. Okay. Open your eyes.
- [59:21]
B
Kelvin Benjamin.
- [59:22]
C
Dang it.
- [59:22]
B
Correct.
- [59:23]
C
Dang it.
- [59:24]
B
That was a good. That was a good one.
- [59:26]
A
Liner survives agar.
- [59:29]
C
That was a good one. That would have taken me a minute.
- [59:31]
B
Calvin Benjamin. Name that college.
- [59:33]
A
Florida State.
- [59:34]
B
Name that qb.
- [59:35]
A
Got me on the qb.
- [59:36]
B
I'm not Jameis Winston.
- [59:37]
C
I was going to say James, but I didn't think it was the right time.
- [59:40]
B
Name the coach. They won the national championship that year. Name the coach.
- [59:43]
C
That was that year.
- [59:45]
B
No, he is getting paid millions of millions of dollars to not coach anymore in college.
- [59:49]
C
Oh, who is it? Shoot.
- [59:56]
B
Just give it to us. Jimbo Fisher.
- [59:58]
A
Oh, Jimbo Fisher.
- [59:59]
B
2014. I think they won it. 2013. Anyway, I know Benjamin was the receiver.
- [60:03]
C
Guys, that's what we should have done. We should have coached Cal College football. I say we as in. As if I could actually do that and then just get fired as the best position ever.
- [60:12]
B
Being a backup quarterback in the league is a great gig, but being a fired coach with the buyout of like 80 million is amazing.
- [60:18]
A
See, it doesn't happen when acting actors get fired all the time and they get residual.
- [60:22]
B
You get residuals.
- [60:23]
A
But I'm saying if you get fired, you don't really get. I would love to sign like a seven year TV show deal. You want to fire me after year one and pay out my seven years? See you later. I'm good with it. I'm fine with it. Fire me. Annie, I can't thank you enough. How did you feel sitting in the seat? It's not a weird seat. It's a weird.
- [60:40]
C
It's a weird seat. No, it's fine. It is fun. I was like, oh, it's fun to know the answers, but it's more fun to guess, but your brain kind of goes dead. Like the. The guitar team.
- [60:51]
A
You're like, what?
- [60:51]
C
Wait, yeah. Yeah.
- [60:52]
B
That was hard.
- [60:53]
C
No, it was fun.
- [60:54]
A
Well, I appreciate you doing it and thank you again, Twisted T, for helping with this segment. Annie.
- [60:59]
C
We will.
- [60:59]
A
Good luck to your Packers. Thanks. Positive vibe, and we'll see you next week. And it'll be on to round two. Or you're going to be.
- [61:07]
C
I might be either really happy or I might be relocating out of Chicago.
- [61:11]
B
How does.
- [61:11]
C
How does.
- [61:12]
B
Real quick, if the packers lose this game, you do what. I know you're be upset, but, like, what happens to your world if the packers lose?
- [61:21]
C
I'm. It's going to be bad. I told. I told my.
- [61:25]
B
Will you cry?
- [61:26]
C
I would. Oh, absolutely. I would lose to any other team in the NFL and feel significantly better than losing to the Chicago Bears, specifically this year. Bears fans have been on me so much, and they're so confident. And I know everybody's like, oh, like, before the season, Bears fans didn't even think they'd make the playoffs, but they have. And now they're so not arrogant, I guess.
- [61:46]
A
A little cocky.
- [61:47]
B
So why aren't you going? Are you going to the game?
- [61:50]
C
No, I thought about it, but I don't want to be in a sea of fans that hate me. Even better, I'm going to go to a bar with. With three of my girlfriends who are all Bears fans.
- [61:58]
B
Are you a. Are you a live texter during a game? Are you phone away?
- [62:04]
C
No, I tweet. I live tweet during the game.
- [62:05]
B
Okay. Because I have to be on my even powers.
- [62:08]
C
I'll bring out like, the two phones and I'm like, tweeting and putting out Instagram things.
- [62:11]
B
Oh, because I'm gonna fire up some texts to you during this.
- [62:13]
A
Oh, no, wait. And you have two phones.
- [62:16]
B
I do you like the wire? Annie, what is that second phone known for?
- [62:24]
A
For content, bro.
- [62:25]
C
So if I'm tweet if I like sitting on Twitter, right? Because I have to get my emotions out immediately. But then I'll. I'll double. Like, I'll share it to Instagram too. So sometimes while the tweet's going up, I'll be honest.
- [62:35]
A
You are a one person operation.
- [62:37]
B
You are. It's kind of save a lot of money that way.
- [62:39]
C
And everybody's like, well, you don't. You don't enjoy the game. But I do. I just want to. Like, that's the time to get content out. Because other packers fans are feeling the same thing. I'm feeling. So I try to. I just got.
- [62:48]
B
We're gonna play. We're gonna play a game on the. During the game, I'm gonna FaceTime you, and I'm gonna scream.
- [62:53]
A
See if you.
- [62:55]
C
Oh, I'll be.
- [62:55]
A
Two phones are gonna go off. IPads gonna come out. She ain't answering. See, I. I am a dark room.
- [63:03]
B
Yeah. Jerry's like, life just turns off and no one.
- [63:06]
A
I want to eat my emotions. I need to go to the pantry.
- [63:09]
C
Yeah.
- [63:09]
A
I like to leave a lot of plastic things around to throw because I'm a big, like. So I'll like, you know, like those gallon jugs of water. I'll just. If it's empty, I'll pick that up.
- [63:18]
C
Oh, that's great.
- [63:18]
A
I call it wrecking the locker room.
- [63:20]
C
That's a great idea. I'll wreck my therapeutic reason back. You know, it's like one of those. Those rooms where you break things in.
- [63:27]
A
Well, good luck. I'm rooting for. I'm a pack.
- [63:29]
B
Good luck to you.
- [63:30]
A
For you. Because I don't want you. I don't want you to smash two of your phones.
- [63:33]
C
That means. That means a lot. I appreciate it.
- [63:36]
A
We'll see you, Andy. Good luck.
- [63:38]
C
Yeah.
- [63:39]
A
All right. Thank you, everybody, for listening. We are back. It's 2026. We will be back next week. We should have some good guests lined up for you. We're going to start talking about our super bowl trip that we have planned out, so make sure you tune in next week's. Don't forget to like and subscribe. Thank you, everybody. Have a good 2026. Let's go. I'm going skiing.
- [63:58]
B
Let's go.