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Wells Adams on Reality TV Chaos, Thanksgiving Debates & Disney Adult Life
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A
What are your thoughts on Shador Sanders getting the rock?
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B
You can put that to bed. It's. It's a ridiculous argument now. Maybe he needs to get out of Cleveland.
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C
Maybe it's just the organization.
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B
By the way, I would want him to get out of there, too.
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A
All right, welcome to another episode of Throwbacks. Please take a second and follow us on all social platforms at Throwback show, go to the YouTube subscribe. Press the button. It's free. Don't forget us. And Maddie, I got a road game today, bro.
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B
You're down. You're dad of the year right now. Just grinding right now.
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A
Yeah. Your boys in a road game. I'm at Disney World with the family. You know, wife, seven and a half months pregnant. Seven and a half months pregnant. Apparently, this is the last thing we're going to do as a family of four, so a very important time.
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B
So this is a big deal. Big deal.
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A
Please pray for me if you see me in a theme park. Just shout words of encouragement. You can do it.
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B
I mean, you've posted. I mean, your wife posted.
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D
You just.
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B
You're just a napper. You're just napping wherever you can get it. Just in the middle of a. Of a little couch circle with just fans and guests everywhere. You just. Just napping throughout the day.
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A
If there's a seat and I have more than five minutes, I'm sitting down in the park and I'm.
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D
I'm.
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A
I'm sleeping. I'm taking a five minute.
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B
You've officially become that guy. That's when you. That's when you know you're getting a little bit older.
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D
It is true.
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A
Well, speaking of that guy, we have that guy come on show today because you know him from like a hundred million reality shows. Wells Adams, Man, I'm. I'm curious how you met Wells.
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B
So I met Wells. So. Well, I've actually been a fan of Wells because I used to love the Bachelor Bachelorette series. I don't watch it as much anymore. And then he's become like, the staple bartender on Bachelor in Paradise for a long time. So everybody loves Wells. Great dude, big personality, Melody. Just like, you watch him, you're like, oh, man. Like, I want to be boys with that guy. So I got a chance to meet him this past summer in Tahoe for the golf tournament. I was out there with Travis Matthew. He was out there doing some stuff with Travis Matthew and doing, like, some stuff for his YouTube with Chad.
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A
Mum.
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C
They.
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B
They host the Vanity Index podcast together. The golf podcast. So we played. It was Me, Austin, Reeves, Chad and Wells, and we.
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A
That's a fun foursome.
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B
Oh, it's fun. We played that practice round, and we just had a blast, man, and just got to, like, he. His. His family. Some of his family went to usc, he went to Ole Miss. So definitely a lot of. A lot of old Miss news right now.
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D
Stories out of him.
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B
Yeah, we get some stories out of him, but great dude. And I'm pumped to talk to him, man, just because he's like, he might not be Mount Rushmore reality tv, but he's done it all, like, as a contestant, as a host. Like, his resume is ridiculous.
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A
And even the show that everyone keeps telling me I have to watch because I'm a big, like, murder mystery Clue Mafia fan is traitors. And he was on this pass. He's spoiler alert. I mean, it's out there in public.
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B
He didn't last long.
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A
I think his wife Sarah was very disappointed that he got the boot so early, so we're going to talk to him about that. And he has a show also, Sweet Empire, Winter Wars. It's a baking show. I believe it's on Food Network. So he. He's just everywhere. And, Matt, I know you're always on the hunt for a great reality gig, and maybe Wells could help, you know, put the word in. But if you could have your choice, if there was a draft of reality shows and you could say, hey, I hope this show drafts me. What reality show would you hope drafts? Matt Leinert, the ho. The reality host.
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B
Oh, a host or is a contest or host, contestant.
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A
Whatever, whatever.
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B
I think I. I think. I think Dancing with the Stars.
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A
Really?
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D
Yeah.
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B
Although that just gives me. It gives me anxiety just thinking about it.
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A
But, yeah, but if Dancing with the Stars called you right now and they were like, matt, we are very interested in you for season 100. And whatever they're on, you're like, full stop, all in. Do we even have to think about it?
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B
They. They shoot during the fall, so that's challenging. But, yeah, I mean, I just think it's one of those things where I. I say this to everyone, and this is like, no joke. I'm. I'm at a point in my life where I've branched out and want to do other things that maybe make me uncomfortable or something that I wouldn't have been able to do. And my wife brought that out of me. Like, when my mom passed away, true story, like, eight years ago, I was like, you know what? Like, I. I'm more than a football player. I want to do all this other stuff. Let's like. And dude, I, I skated on the, for the LA Kings, but I didn't know how to skate in front of.
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A
Craziest thing I've ever seen anyone do, Mario Lemieux.
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B
And I was like, I'm gonna make an ass of myself, but I'm gonna do it. Yeah. So I'm just kind of in that, like, mindset of, like, trying new things and, and embracing it and having fun and all that. So I think that would be a fun challenge. I know a lot of people have done it, but. And as a host, I mean, gosh, I don't know, Hosting would be fun too, though. But I mean, Wells. Wells is like, he's got the greatest gig in the world, man, just hosting all these baking shows. He's a bartender giving group therapy to, you know, mid 20something year olds trying to find love. Like, the guy's got it made.
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A
We're going to get to the Wells interview right now, but also stick around because after Annie Agar joining us with Twisted Tea, we're going to do more trivia and we're going to hit a little Shador Sanders stuff, a little Cam Scatter Boo stuff, and the Thursday, the Thanksgiving and Christmas Day slate. So. But first, we give you Wells Adams.
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B
All right, this one's got me fired up. Today on the show, we're joined by one of reality TV's most beloved personalities. You know him from the Bachelorette or is the world's most overqualified. And my favorite bartender, where he's part host, part therapist, part matchmaker, and part guy who hounds out tequila when things get messy on Bachelor in Paradise. One of my guilty pleasures, he's a radio veteran. He also did a sin on Traders, a very short stint. He's a pretty decent golfer. I've seen it. The host of the Vanity Index podcast with Chad Mum, the your favorite thing podcast with Brandy Cyrus, and the host of Sweet Empire Winter Wars. Holy shit, dude. That is like, like your resume is longer than, than anyone I know. Wells Adams joins the show. Guys, Wells Adams. What's up, brother?
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D
Nice.
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B
Was that good or no? That was like that.
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D
I mean, I, I think it was Chat GPT that wrote that, but I still think it was pretty good.
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B
What did I miss? I'm sure I missed something. I mean, this resume is ridiculous.
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D
No, that's, that's, that's pretty much it. Usually people are like, he's the poor one in the relationship with his wife who's a modern family. I usually get that oh, we wouldn't.
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B
Do, we wouldn't do that to you.
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D
But I do appreciate you letting all the listeners and viewers know that, yes, I was on two episodes, Traders. I was the first one banished from that show, but here we are.
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A
You know, I, I, I'm. Everyone I know has been telling me, you gotta watch Traders. You gotta watch Traders. I'm a big, like, werewolves and villagers, Mafia guy, all that. So I haven't checked out your seat, but I read some of the clips from you coming out there. Did it feel like you shamed the family? Because I feel like that's been the headline so far. I don't know if they're egging you on it. Did you actually feel like it was a letdown for you?
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D
Oh, I, I was so embarrassed. Like, the truth of the matter is, is that I have a little bit of sheltering when it comes to Bachelor in Paradise. Right? Like, they're, yeah, it's not good to make me look bad as the, you know, therapist, bartender. So I'm sheltered a little bit by production, but there, no, they didn't care. And they were just like, straight out and same thing, you know. My wife's an actress, so, like, when I first got out here, I never played Werewolf or Mafia when I lived in Nashville doing radio. But when I came out here, that's all, all these big game. They sit around, they play this game, and I, I should have known. I, I was terrible then. And then when they asked me to do the show, everyone was like, oh, you're going to be good. You're, you know, you're really analytical. You're a good people person. Your political game will be great. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I will be great. And immediately, immediately was knocked off that show. But I have a theory on why I got kicked off so quickly. And I don't kind of blame everyone for doing it. You know, I was surrounded by, like, a lot of, like, housewives and other reality TV stars that they kind of are just always insane. Like, constantly, like, they never turn it off. You know, I was a radio guy, so, like, I didn't turn it on until, like, the red light was on. Right. And, and same with Paradise. Like, if nothing's going on, I'm, I'm not, like, trying to joke around and laugh, and I'm, like, saving all that stuff for the show. And so everyone clocked it. Like, we would be doing missions and they'd put cameras down and they'd be like, don't talk or whatever. Like, if you talk, just Talk, you know, like, about your families or something. Don't talk about gameplay. And I would just completely check out. And everyone was like, there's something wrong with this guy. Like, he turns off. And I was like, listen, I just all have so much, like, energy in the tank and, like, not going to waste it if cameras aren't being pointed at us. So I remember, like, in the tour, they cut it out because it. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense when someone's like, you weren't talking when the cameras weren't on, because you assume cameras were always on. But that was something that people were like, there's something wrong with this guy. You don't talk when cameras aren't on. It's like, dude, I'm just chilling. You're trying to wait, you know, wait for cameras to get picked back up. So, yeah, I got kicked pretty quickly.
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B
Who won? Who won? Your se. Did Efron win your season?
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D
Yeah, Dylan won, Dolores won, Lord Ivor won, and Gabby won as well. So, yeah, extra painful because Gabby, you know, was from the Bachelor world, and she won, and I was off immediately.
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B
Efron's on a heater right now. Dancing with the Stars. He's still. He's still on.
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D
I went to Dancing with the Stars last week for the, like, the 20th, you know, year anniversary, and I sat with his dad. It was a really cute story. So, like, after we were sitting. Well, we were sitting behind the Irwins, which was kind of, like, crazy for me. But after the show, someone came up and was like, hey, I'm a huge fan of yours. And, like, you know, whatever happened on Traders, you know, I'm really sorry you got robbed or something like that. And I was like, oh, Traders, this is Zach's or this is Dylan's dad. And the girl turns to him and goes, oh, my God, I'm such a huge fan of Dylan. And his dad turns to me and goes, it's really nice. For years, I've only ever heard I'm a huge fan of Jack. And now it's really wild here that people are a fan of Dylan and, like, knowing how great of a guy he is. And I was like, oh, that's like, the sweetest thing ever. But, yeah, he's on a major glow right now.
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A
Yeah, I feel like it's a good time for brothers. He's on a run. Dave Franco has, like, the number one movie in the country. Brothers are. Brothers are on the rise. I feel you, though. So I feel basically what you're saying is, like, Your silence, in your professionalism of I'm going to save it for the camera, made you look suspicious almost though for sure. Made it. Made it be like, this guy's a threat. We got. See, I love the Hollywood mafia, werewolves and villagers game, but it is kind of crazy when you think that, like, I don't know if you've ever played with your wife in the same game. I once went with this person I was dating and it's a game of lying, Matt. All you got to do is just be really good at lying.
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B
I've played it. Yeah.
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A
Ends relationship. It's actually a horrible idea to go do that with your significant other. In my opinion. It did not work out so well for me.
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D
And I'm really good at lying too.
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A
Like, I do.
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B
It's a great quality to have.
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D
Well, I do this bit a lot with my wife and so she doesn't believe anything I say. But like a lot of times if we're like visiting a new place, I'll make up some stat, some historical stat. That's not true at all.
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A
I love that. I love it.
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D
Totally forget about it. And so she's now realized that I'm always making stuff up. She's like, I don't believe anything. And I'm like, well, we have to go ask Chat. GPT.
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B
Tell us about, tell us about Sweet Empire Winter wars. Because you've done, you've done it. You did a pizza show before, right? You did, you hosted that. And I actually curious if you prefer hosting over being like a contestant on a show.
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D
Oh, much prefer hosting. It's so much easier. Like I, yeah, I did, I did a show called Best in Dough with Danieli Uditi, who's the owner of Pizzana. So if you live in la, you kind of know that place. And that was awesome. I mean, we all gained like 20 pounds doing that show. But it's the same, it's the same production company, Alfred street that is doing this Food Network show called Sweet Empire Weird Tours. So they hit me up when Food Network asked, asked us to make the show. And yeah, it's like I'm telling like, it's the best gig in the world. Like, you go, you hit a mark, you read a teleprompter, you eat food and then like, that's all you got it made, dude. I like, honestly, dude, I mean, like, I do a show where I make drinks in quote, unquote paradise. That's a slog. It's like 18 hour shoot days I'm on the entire time. This is the best. And I've got. We got to do it in Toronto, which is like, has a great food scene. So. Yeah, Sweet Empire is fun. It's. It's kind of like there's a lot of these shows, like, is it cake? And you know, like Harry Potter? It's a hyper realistic cake building. I mean, I. These guys are bakers, but really they're like sculptors and artists. And the stuff that they make on this show is wild. And it's obviously Winter War, so it's like during the holidays. So when family comes home for Thanksgiving and for Christmas, everyone should turn it on because it's very in the spirit of the, of the holiday and you get some ideas about, like, things you could do over the holidays. I mean, obviously, like, they're doing stuff that like, you can't do, but.
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A
Right.
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D
It is cool to. It's cool to watch and it was a really fun show to do also.
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A
And I don't know if this is because I'm currently. I don't know if you could tell. I am at Disney World with my family. Hold up.
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B
This guy's been at Disney World, by the way. Well, almost a week.
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A
This is the greatest break. When we, when we confirm this interview, I'm like, you know, I look noon to 2. I. I'm like, we're talking to Wells till 3. My wife's like, wait a minute, you're doing a three hour?
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B
People are like, yep. Is that turtle just napping on the middle of the hotel lobby?
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A
I do have to say the title. It literally sounds like another, like one of the Avengers episodes. I'm guessing that was like, intentional. Sweet Empire, Winter Wars. I get the feeling that it gets intense on this show.
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D
Yeah. So like, the, the wrinkle in this show is the, the first episode, we have 14 bakers and we all make them individually. Go make something, right? Like it's like something. Something you find underneath the tree or something like that. And then basically we vote for the top six, and then those top six get to choose who's going to be on their quote unquote Empire. So then it becomes like a game of dodgeball, right? No one wants. And if you're picked last, you're out. The last two are out. And then as the show goes on, teams that, like, don't win their empires crumble, and then they get absorbed by the other teams. And so what's cool about this is there is gameplay to it, right? Like, if you're a chocolatier, then you want a sugar artist or you Want a cake builder? Because everyone kind of has their specialities and they're all trying to build their, like their best team. And so there's a little bit of a political game as well. Right. Like, all these people have won different cake building challenges on Food Network and stuff. So someone's the leader of the empire. Someone has to be kind of like the peasant of the empire. And that's a weird, like, dynamic shift for them. And so like, there's internal conflict in, in that respect. So it's, it's almost like a little bit like the challenge or traders for that matter. And then also baking wise, which I thought was kind of a cool wrinkle to like an old classic.
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A
So you mentioned something to a Bachelor in Paradise. Now I, you know, I've been around now. I remember being the young actor. Now I'm like the old guy, right. And I remember going back. Gosh, I remember when, what year this strike was might have been like 0708. But I just remember when like reality TV was like, you were. All the actors are put on notice. It's like, this is coming. You can't stop it. It's going to take over and all the area. Sure. I feel like I was conditioned to like, hate on it and then I became a fan of it. So now when I look at all the shows I like now as I get older, I try to analyze it as what's your quality of life for the job right now? I got kids and stuff. I love golf. So you mentioned I was going to ask you about the workload with Bachelor in Paradise because it seems as a viewer, like you're there, you do your thing and then you got this downtime. But is it the same as actors on the set? We were there waiting around for your turn, so to speak, or when something happens, they need you. Are you sort of on call for 18 hours on set?
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D
Yeah. It's not like I get to go sit in my, you know, Star wars trailer for, you know, hours on end and play mad. And I've been to, like, my wife's set and I'm like, you guys don't ever do anything. I'm constantly on call. So we, we changed, we changed locations for paradise this past season. So it was a little bit different. But in the past we were filming in Mexic at an actual, like, working resort called Playa Escondida. And effectively I just lived on site. I originally lived off site and they'd bring me in, but once they realized that, like, they need me for when anytime something goes wrong, they'll be like, send Wells in. Send whoever's like upset to talk to him immediately. So I was just always on call, so I would just, you know, sit around waiting for them to be like, we need you on set in 15. Like, I'd keep my mic pack like in my room. And it's like, you know, like, go to the control room. What do you guys want me to do? Who you want to talk to? Okay, down. Then go and film it. And then, you know, we have these really.
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B
You, You.
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D
You film reality. You know, you really film for about 18 hours a day. I know that's what you. I mean, you really film for 24 hour days because we have cameras in the rooms. But for. For like camera guys walking around with you, it's like 18 hours a day. And so effectively, you know, I'll go especially for a rose ceremony day. That's a really long day. So I'll go down, I'll start making drinks like at three, and then I won't rap until. I mean, for the old set, I wouldn't rap until like 4 in the morning. And it's just crazy long vlog. And it's also hot and like, can't have air, really, because that messes with sound. And so, yeah, it's. It's a. It's a lot of work. And. And the thing that most people are surprised to find out about my job is they're like, well, you're not really making the drinks. And I'm like, no, we can't. The bar is too small to have like someone else.
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A
Props. Yeah, yeah.
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D
Like, I can't. I have. Generally I have a camera guy, a sound guy and a producer in my bar with me. I can't have like a, like another person to help me. So I'm having to make all the drinks I'm having, like, stock it. Like it's a. It's like a normal, real bartending job that just also, like, comes with, okay, try to get this person to cry. I'm like, all right, I can do that.
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B
I'm at the age now where, you know, in my sports career there's like this gap of like, older guys know me. The younger generation has no clue. Right. Their dads know me. So it's like this. It's this weird kind of mental, like, like gymnastics with me. It's like, God, am I that old when you're bartending there? I think we might have talked about this when we golf this summer together.
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D
Do you.
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B
Do you feel like A major disconnect at some point because these, they're kids, essentially. Some of them are really young. Are you just like, man, I'm gonna ride the wave. I feel like I got a lot of great advice to give. Like, it's got to go through your mind, right? When you're. When you're serv. 23 year olds.
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D
Yeah. So this is. I just did my eighth season, right. So when I first went on the show, I was a peer to everyone, right. And so it felt totally normal and it was easy to talk to people. And then I. It was last season or two seasons ago where they started using terminology like bet and like, mid and stuff. And I was, oh, dude, this is.
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B
You're like, dude, I need to get out of here.
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D
I'm like the creepy old uncle at this point. Like, this is not good. So, yeah, it's like, I'm surprised that they keep me, like, coming around. Like, I'm surprised they haven't gone a little bit younger. But I do have, like, the, the, the value that I bring is that, like, I'm in, like, a healthy, stable relationship of which everyone's trying to find.
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A
Right.
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D
We have good advice to give them when it comes to relationships and dating and stuff. But yeah, it's. It's passed me by for sure. I am the old guy.
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A
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A
So you know it's holiday season. It's. It's happening. It's all coming. You got the show. And this is where I really feel like, you know, the debate start. Everyone has their holiday traditions and people often overlook Thanksgiving right Even now with football. And we're going to talk about this later in our show. It's almost like Christmas has overtaken for the best sports day now because you get NBA NFL Thanksgiving for for you. I want to start one thing. Are you more host let's have everybody over or do you like would you rather you and Sarah let's go somewhere and not have to clean up, not have to do anything. You're a host or are you a guest?
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D
We're the host. We do like the friends giving like the island of misfit toys. Everyone comes over to our house. I'm a good cook.
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B
Thanks for. Thanks for the invite, by the way. Appreciate it.
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D
Well, so I there's a caveat here. So Sarah's doing a Broadway show called Just in time right now so she's in New York. So I'm going to New York this year. So she has to perform at the, at the Macy's Day Parade.
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A
Oh yeah.
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D
And then a peacock called me and they were like, hey, we need you to come down and do hosting for us as well. So now it's, Thanksgiving's turned into a job for us. So we're not going to be doing anything other than just like working that day. But normally yeah, I'm the host and then I'm a good cook. My brother's a good cook. He usually is over and then obviously I'm the bartender. So then I get everyone just absolutely plastered and we've got a bunch of like friends who are musicians and stuff. And my wife's oh, just great singer. So then generally what happens at our house, we got a piano in one of the rooms and guitars and stuff and it'll devolve into like everyone blackout drunk singing like Ben Folds Five songs and like the entire thing of like Rent or like Wicked and stuff, it gets, I, it sounds epic. And in the, in the moment when you're like cross eyed and drunk, you're like, this is amazing. And then you watch the videos the next day you're like, jesus, we are horrible.
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B
So they're, they're, that sounds like a great time. Yeah, thanks for the invite.
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D
But next year you can come.
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B
Next year I'll be there. So there, there's Jerry and I talked about this all week and I am really curious of your thoughts. So in our house, the, the gift card debate for Christmas. I, I'm a very, I hate saying this because my wife hates this. I'm a very surface level gifter. I will spend a fortune to gift my wife whatever she wants. But I'm not like, it's hard for me to put a lot of thought and effort. It's not because it's just, because it's just like it's tough for me. So she years ago has been like, gift cards show no effort. I hate them. Never get me a gift card again. I get her, you know, like the Starbucks and dude, I'll get you a thousand dollars at Target and go like go, go have a great day. Are gift cards acceptable presents to give your significant other?
- [26:25]
D
No, I would get in trouble for that as well. Yeah, but it is frustrating because it's like, I don't get it. You have to tell me what you want. You know, like I, I, I have no fashion sense or style sense. Like you want a handbag or something? I Have no idea which one. Which one you need to, like, really kind of be in a direction. So I've just been. God. But here's the thing. So she'll be like, I just want this one thing. And of course, this One thing's like, $3,000, and I'm like, this YSL bag is gonna bankrupt me. I gotta go do, like, 13 cameos just to be able to pay for this thing. So, yeah, I. I think g a bad play.
- [27:05]
B
But I love gift cards, though.
- [27:08]
D
I do this a lot. I hit my. My wife's best friend up, and I'm like, hey, what. What do I get her? What. What does she. What do you think she needs? What is she, like, lusting after when you guys go get brunch? And then I usually just go get that.
- [27:20]
B
Yeah, that's a good idea. I. Man, I'll do a dick's gift card or a best guy gift card, and I'm. I'm the happiest guy for a year. It doesn't matter.
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A
Also, it's like, I don't know about you, Wells, or even you, Matt, but. And I don't mean this in, like, a ungrateful way, but I feel like at some point, you know, obviously, you. You've gotten your significant other gifts and stuff at some. Like, I'm not saying I have everything, but, like, there's nothing I haven't gotten a great gift is what I'm saying. Till I was like, a kid. Like, because when you're a kid, you want it bad, right?
- [27:50]
B
I can't wait for Bree to hear the. Bree to hear this and be like, what are you saying, Jerry?
- [27:54]
A
The sweater is great.
- [27:55]
C
I love it.
- [27:56]
D
Yeah.
- [27:57]
A
Rock it. Like, I have all the golf stuff I could ever need, which I'm sure you do as well. You host a great golf podcast. I've been working to basically try make a living as a average golfer in a sense. Like, I just. Like, I. I almost would rather, like, let's go do something. Let's go have a fun night than make a memory, as opposed to, like, I got this really cool spot. Yeah. She's gonna hear this and probably hate me, but here's where I make it up to her, because I feel like this is a gift. And, Wells, I'm gonna ask you, when does the tree go up? And then more importantly, when does it go down? Because I feel like when it goes down is just as important as when it goes up.
- [28:34]
D
Yeah, I mean, I. It's gotta go up after Thanksgiving.
- [28:38]
A
Has to.
- [28:39]
D
Yeah. I think that's weird when that is still up and then it's not going up. Is. Yeah, that's okay. Is it frocked?
- [28:48]
B
It's fake. I'm just. I got so much going on right now. I just took down 50 boxes from the attic a couple days ago. I got. Go ahead, boss. Sorry, I'm flustered.
- [28:58]
D
Yeah. So I think it's got to go up after Thanksgiving, and then I think you can not too long after New Year's. Do you need to take it down? Because there's a lot going on between Christmas and New Year's where, like, I get it. Like, you don't have time for this. But I think after New Year's, your first resolution needs to be like, let's get the house back in order. That's my thought.
- [29:18]
A
I also could do without the other mine. Well, being that we just did this whole Disney trip, which was my version of. Hey, I'm.
- [29:27]
C
I'm.
- [29:27]
A
I'm down for whatever. I'm really hoping to stretch it till. Till first week of day, like December. Get me to like December 5th. And then right after New Year's, that thing comes down.
- [29:38]
D
Do you. Have you done the. The Guardians of Galaxy ride at Disney World?
- [29:43]
A
So I'm doing that Thursday.
- [29:46]
D
Oh, dude.
- [29:47]
A
Also, because my. My wife's also very pregnant, so she can't really go on those rides. And I have a six year old who's now into like, going on the bigger stuff. So. Yeah, I'm gonna go on that for the first time I'm hearing that.
- [29:59]
B
That's the old Tower of Terror, right?
- [30:01]
D
No, that's the one that's at. That's at Disneyland. He's at Disney World, right? You're in Orlando.
- [30:05]
A
Yeah. And like, I. Matt, you haven't done Disney World in Orlando. It's like the difference of like high school football versus the NFL. No shout to like, Disneyland in la. It's amazing. That's a one day this thing right here. I'm in the playoffs right now.
- [30:19]
B
Yeah.
- [30:19]
D
There's three parks you got to deal with. But, dude, that. That ride, that Guardians of Galaxy ride in or. Greatest is the greatest ride I've ever been on in my entire life. And can I. Can I ask.
- [30:32]
A
Yeah.
- [30:33]
B
Did you just go on it, Wells? I mean, or is this was. You were like a teenager beat me down here, dude.
- [30:38]
D
She made. Let's me. Let's be fair. She made the mouse a lot of money on Mon.
- [30:42]
A
She has something coming. She has something coming to her. Yeah.
- [30:45]
D
And she used to host like the Disney, like, Christmas parades and stuff. So we go to Disneyland a lot. I was not the Disney adult, but I've been like. So it's sexually transmitted now that, like, I have to, like, go Disneyland and Disney World. And I like, know all this stuff. Let me ask you such a douchey question. Or do you guys have a plaid there?
- [31:08]
A
So I used to do that.
- [31:09]
B
Not a douchey question. The only way to go.
- [31:11]
A
I used to do that at Disneyland all the time.
- [31:14]
D
You're telling me you're raw dogging Disney.
- [31:16]
A
World with fast passes? No, no, no. Here's so something interesting. Our wives are getting along really well because she's into the Disney stuff, too. She treats this like a business operation. When I tell you I have not waited online more than 10 minutes for any ride. That being said, I used to ball out and I take my nephews and a big group and we go, and it's the best experience. There's nothing better than getting a guy. It's like courtside Knicks game for Disney, and then once you do it, you're screwed. So I'm also a little scared to give my kids a taste of that because I just wonder what it's gonna. What it's gonna do to them in the future. And they're like, wait a minute, dad. Why are all these people here? It's like. It's called a line, son. It's called a line. Get in line. No, we're. We're semi raw dogging. It's. It's been great. 10 minutes, 12 minutes tops. And it's. It's been great. Also. I've mastered, like, when I sit. Rule number one is whenever I'm butt on a chair, I nap. I don't care where I am. If it's 8 minutes, 10 minutes, I'm falling asleep all over this park. But it. But you know what? I like the movie stuff. That's where I really like. We're doing the big cool movie stuff coming up, and I think it's a good segue to do the Wendy's Fresh take as our kind of top three. We're going off the fly here. Christmas movies.
- [32:36]
D
Okay.
- [32:37]
A
And this could be your personal. Doesn't have to be what you think is the best. It could be the ones that are, like, the coolest for you. Matt, I don't know if you want to swing first. I feel like we're going to overlap a little bit here. The whole.
- [32:50]
B
The dumb. Every year is Die Hard a Christmas movie. But we don't have to get into that. Mine are Pretty easy, dude. And I'll start so alone. Home alone number one. Number number one. Elf number two. And Christmas vacation number three. Although it did have one of the greatest scenes as a teenager of all time when, you know, she had the red bikini out of the.
- [33:13]
A
The.
- [33:13]
D
The pool.
- [33:13]
B
I think I watched that about 150 times in my room by myself. But those would be my three. Those would be my three. I just don't think that one stands a test of time for the generation of kids now, which is unfortunate.
- [33:24]
A
All right, Wells, you got three. You want me to swing first?
- [33:27]
D
No, I can go. I'm gonna go with A Christmas Story. You shoot your eye out.
- [33:35]
A
Classic. Fantastic.
- [33:37]
D
That one holds up too, actually. I watch.
- [33:39]
A
I disagree.
- [33:40]
B
I disagree. That's fine.
- [33:41]
D
You think you don't. What?
- [33:42]
B
Dude, Christmas Story was in like 1975.
- [33:45]
D
Yeah, but it came out in like the 80s or whatever. It was always.
- [33:49]
A
Yeah, it's a classic. Matt, you're crazy.
- [33:52]
B
It's a classic, but it's not like.
- [33:54]
D
Don'T touch my stuff. All right?
- [33:56]
A
That's right. No judgment. This is judgement.
- [33:58]
B
Go ahead. Go ahead, finish.
- [33:59]
D
But I was in the trust tree. In the nest.
- [34:01]
B
We are in the trust tree.
- [34:03]
D
Christmas Story, Christmas vacation. I think. I still think that holds up. But I'm old too, I guess. And then I like the Family Stone, but the fam. But it is really.
- [34:16]
A
What a list.
- [34:17]
D
I. Okay.
- [34:19]
B
And then I have a caveat.
- [34:20]
D
I have. I have a least favorite Christmas movie that might be controversial, but the Family Stone, if you've never seen it, it's. It's kind of odd because this guy brings this girl home and the family is kind of a big mess. And then at some point, Luke Wilson steals the girlfriend. And then the. The guy who brought the original girl home, like, takes. Takes the sister of the girl. It gets really, really weird. And I remember telling. Showing my wife being like, this is one of my favorite Christmas movies. It reminds me of my family. And afterwards she was like, what the wrong with your family, dude? Now the one that I hate, I think is the absolute trash movie is. Is. Oh, what's the other.
- [35:01]
A
Who's in it?
- [35:05]
B
Bad Santa. Santa Claus?
- [35:06]
D
No, no, no. It's. It's a love. It's a love story. It's like four.
- [35:10]
A
The holiday.
- [35:11]
D
No.
- [35:13]
B
Oh, four. Four Christmases.
- [35:14]
A
No, no, no.
- [35:15]
B
Love actually.
- [35:16]
A
Love actually. Yeah. Love actually.
- [35:18]
D
That movie is trash, all right. Everyone in that movie is an absolute monster.
- [35:24]
A
It's true. Bad decisions everywhere.
- [35:26]
D
Everyone is such a piece of in that movie. And it's like who's love story? What are you talking about?
- [35:34]
B
Look at. Oh, is that Julia who's in that movie?
- [35:36]
A
I'm in full agreement. And it's also manipulative thing possible like the.
- [35:42]
B
By the way a list dude.
- [35:44]
D
Like his best friend's girl with like signs. One guy Snape from freaking Harry Potter is cheating on his wife and gives her a crap gift of a Joni Mitchell double disc CD and then gives the mistress the diamond thing. The only. The only like redeeming storyline in that is. Is the. Is the guy who ends up screwing his maid but he can't even speak Portuguese. The whole thing is trash, dude.
- [36:13]
B
By the way, it sounds like you've seen the movie like 19 times. Of course you have to watch it before we. We let you go do. Let's. We want to talk a little bit of sports. And I didn't know this about you.
- [36:25]
D
I was excited about. This is what I really want to talk to you about.
- [36:27]
A
This is what we're here for.
- [36:28]
B
Sorry. So I want. I didn't know you went to Ole Miss. Yeah, and I found that out when we golfed. And I just gotta ask you straight up one. I want to hear just your greatest story from Ole Miss because I can only imagine Oxford that you can tell and then Lane Kiffin. Because we are in the Lane Kiffin sweepstakes right now. And I want to get your thoughts on how you feel about that.
- [36:50]
A
Okay.
- [36:50]
D
Like my frat text chain at Ole Miss is it. It's actually. It's too much, right? I'm like, guys, we gotta stop. This is. We're like. We're tracking private jets down to. Oh, dude. Dissecting every little social media thing that Lane's doing. I'm watching the Pat McAfee Show. Can't stand that show. Had to watch it yesterday because he was on it and we were dissecting that. Here's my thought. I think that Lane's gonna stay and maybe I'm. That's. This is wishful thinking. But I think college football has changed a lot now. If this was 10 years ago, get the hell out of there. I totally get it. Lsu, Florida, much better jobs. But I don't think that's the case anymore. Especially with the nil Ole Miss's fan base. One, we have a ton of money that we are not scared to give the program to get to a certain level. And that level is beneath what everyone at Florida and LSU expects if we get 10 wins. This is positive for you. So you have a really cushy gig. Now, I don't think that there's a better town in the sec. And this is crazy, because Mississippi, there are a lot of crap towns in it, but Oxford is one of the coolest places in the world. Our game day experience, I think, is the best in the sec. And I went and traveled around to everyone, and Baton Rouge is pretty fun. Tuscalor is pretty cool. Obviously, Texas now, but I don't really consider that. But I think that our game day experience is so cool. You get to do that. The walk of champions, right to the stadium, which is right next door. You come back, you party in the Grove with chandeliers and flat screen TVs, and they're catered and everyone's dressed up and everyone's hot. At least all the chicks are like, the whole thing is money. When I think of Gainesville, I don't know if I think Gainesville's a better town. And here's the thing. And I don't know if I think Baton Rouge is a better town. Now, New Orleans, I would give you that. But this is a different beast. Now, here's the reason why I don't think Lane should go and. Lane, if you're listening to me, you should listen to me. If. If you win a national championship at Ole Miss, they will put a golden statue of your ass doing Pilates in the Grove. Dude, like, you will be forever the greatest coach, maybe other than Johnny Vop, but your name will be on that freaking stadium. If you go to Gainesville. I'm sorry, but you're never going to be better than Urban Meyer. I don't know how many. You can win a million freaking national championships. Urban Meyer was there. And if you go to lsu, dude, you won't even be the first, second, third, or fourth best coach they've got there. And here's the thing. You could go to LSU and you could lose. You could win a national championship, and you could still get fired because that's what happened to coach. Oh. All right. I'm telling you, Good old Miss.
- [39:39]
B
You've been thinking about this a lot this week.
- [39:41]
A
I love this take.
- [39:42]
D
Yeah.
- [39:45]
B
I'm gonna put you on a text with Lane. He's gonna. He'll love you. He'll. He'll love you.
- [39:49]
A
Dude.
- [39:49]
B
He loves it.
- [39:50]
D
Send it to him.
- [39:51]
B
All right, I will.
- [39:52]
A
You're making a very similar take that I always do with my Knicks, where it's like, a championship here is worth, like, two anywhere else because it's.
- [40:00]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [40:00]
A
Charted territory, right?
- [40:02]
B
Yeah, I think I. I Would statue of you. I would disagree in the sense I think LSU is a bigger, better job. I agree with your points, but for him to kind of take the next step. But Ole Miss is going to the playoff this year. He's already making a fortune. He could have whatever he wants. Yeah, he can recruit there. And in this world, you can get guys like, like that. That's the thing is, like, it's. It's going to be interesting because I'm hearing. I'm hearing a lot just like you that he might be gone. Story from Oxford before we taught golf. Okay.
- [40:33]
D
I've got a lot of them. Dude, Oxford is. If you haven't. If you're a lover of college football and haven't been to Oxford, Mississippi, you need to do it, like, make the pilgrimage. It is a very, very special place. Okay. My favorite story was when I was like, pledging in a fraternity. We had to. We had to like, go to the student section early for games. And you had to be wearing, like, a suit, which sucked. Especially like, you know, in when it's really hot there. It's Mississippi. It's really hot. So we like wearing like, wool suits and we'd have to go early and we have to save seats for actives. And it sucked because you couldn't. At that time you. I think you can now, but at that time you couldn't drink in the stadium. So we did all these crazy things to sneak booze in. And so one night before a game, we dressed in all black and I had like three handles of. Of like, crap bourbon, like, like duct tape to me. And it was two of my. My best friends. We went down to the stadium and we jumped the fence. We broke in and we duct taped booze to like, the. Underneath the bleachers where we were going to be sitting. And then when we came out, the cops came. So we. So I scurried underneath, like a dump truck. And then my two buddies, they ran off for like, the hills, right? So the cops come to the dump truck. They're looking all around. I get up underneath the truck and I'm holding onto the axle, so I'm like, above the ground. They can't see me, but they see me also. Was I drunk? Probably. I was in college. So they get me down and they put me in handcuffs. They put me in the back of the car and they're like, dude, where are your two other friends? And so I said, well, our rendezvous point was over at that tree. Call of Duty rendezvous point. But they were like, really? Then they Went and like, we're searching this tree. And that gave my buddies long enough time to. To get home. Now, we had a getaway driver, which was my friend Wetland's girlfriend, Annalee Floyd.
- [42:44]
A
And so it was like, bootleggers, bro. It's like the Roaring twenties. Great.
- [42:49]
D
She was really cute, as every girl Ole Miss is. And so they were at, like, the Huddle House, which is like. Or like the Waffle House, you know, like a crappy diner, waiting for us to call. And at the time, these cops came in, and they were talking about how these kids were trying to sneak booze into the stadium. And so Annalee went up to him and started flirting with them, convince them to let it. To let me go. And so they called it in, being like, hey, let this kid go. He's cool, or whatnot. I am released. I call my buddies. I'm being like, where are you? They were on this at the Square, drinking, like, having a ball at the library or whatnot. And I was like, I've been in a cop car with handcuffs, you know, like, for the past, like, hour and a half. And Annalee got us out of trouble. So, yeah, that was my. That was one of my favorite stories of breaking into the stadium and putting boots.
- [43:50]
B
Awesome.
- [43:50]
A
Literally. That sounds like you could have just changed that to, like, it was me and Al Capone. We were bringing whiskey from Canada, bootlegging it to the East Coast. That's amazing, dude. Well, selfishly, something I'm very excited about because I'm a huge golf fan and I love the podcast you and Chad do. Vanity Index, and I saw it got picked up by Golf Channel, so it's going to be airing on Golf Channel as well as every other thing you're already airing on, correct?
- [44:15]
D
Yeah. I think January 14th will start. And it's 10:00am Eastern, 7:00 clock on Pacific Time, which is going to be hilarious because, like, we are members of the. Chad and I are members of the same club. And when you go into the grill room, like the. The bar area, the Golf Channel is always on. And I know everyone's going to be like, there are you.
- [44:39]
A
You wield a lot of power, though. You could call some dudes out, you know, slow play. You could call. You could actually make some moves within your own club. Well, the thing I love about it, too, is you. First of all, you have two guests that I don't think have ever done pods. Any Ken Griffey Jr. Who we've tried to get on this show. He's very elusive. And then my Old buddy who I know for 20 years, Scott Khan, who has no social media and has never done a podcast probably in his life. So when I saw him pop up, I'm like, wow. They managed to get a microphone in front of Scott Khan. That's impressive. It just looks like you guys are having fun. Like, I know Chad obviously doing a lot of stuff in the golf world, but you. How long have you been, like, when did you. When did a golf catch you? At what point in your career and in your life?
- [45:25]
D
Yeah.
- [45:25]
A
And I want you to break down Matt's swing. Once we get. That's gonna be our outro. Break down Matt St. Andrew swing, by the way.
- [45:32]
B
No, well, he wasn't.
- [45:33]
D
He.
- [45:33]
B
We were at Tahoe together.
- [45:34]
A
Oh, Tahoe.
- [45:35]
B
St. Andrews, by the way. I picked it up. I played my best round of all time at the old courses with. With Austin. It was fantastic.
- [45:41]
A
Wide open.
- [45:42]
B
That's why it is. It is wide open.
- [45:44]
D
You've got all of Scotland to the left.
- [45:46]
B
I do.
- [45:50]
D
Yeah. So well, Scotty Khan is the man. He's the best dressed guy at our club. And it's like, not close. Everything is tailored and he's fantastic. My golf journey really started as a kid. I grew up in Monterey, like Pebble Beach, Carmel area, which is like kind of golf Mecca. I grew up on a golf course, like, selling golf balls and we'd go out and play. I grew up on a golf course called Old Del Monte, which is the oldest golf course west of Mississippi. And we used to bribe the Marshall with the bottles of wine every month so he wouldn't give us for, like, jumping on and playing like. Like a quick nine at twilight. And then I played in high school. I wasn't. I wasn't great. I don't even know if I. I barely made the varsity team, so I've never been, like, a great golfer, but I'm like, competent. And then I went to college. I didn't really play in college. And then when I was in Nashville doing radio, I was poor, so I didn't play. And then when I moved back to LA, I was like, I can play, you know, 12 months out of the year. I'm gonna get back into it. And so that's how I kind of like returned to the golf world. And then I'm buddies with Chad Mum, who has done so much in the golf space. He does full swing on Netflix.
- [47:02]
A
He was a part of it.
- [47:03]
D
Gilmore too. He's got a scripted show that I don't know if we're supposed to talk about. But it's going to be coming out very soon with the big star that everybody knows. And so he was like, we should do like a full swing recap show. And I was like, yeah, let's do. Let's do that. I've got a. I've got a studio in my house. We can just do it from my house. And then it kind of turned into, we just invited all of our famous friends to come in. Super low stakes, right? Like, I don't want to know about. I'm not. No gotcha questions on our show. I just want to talk to you about golf. And, yeah, the one thing that, like, everyone, like every celebrity that plays golf, they just want to talk about golf. And if that's all it is, it's an easy sell. Usually we'll be like, come over. We'll do the show and then we'll go play like you're our guest or what. Now that's kind of how we dangle the carrot for them. So, yeah, it's been. It's been really fun, and I'm excited that Golf Channel is picking this up. Like, you know, a lot of these streamers and networks are going to this. We want your. Your. The video portion of your podcast. Like, everyone's just looking for content, and us being one end of this, I think is very, very cool. And I'm thankful that Chad has the connections that he does to. To get us in there. There's a bunch of other podcasts that are probably. But sorry, you too late in terms of linert. Swing.
- [48:28]
A
There we go.
- [48:29]
B
Can I. Can I just give. Can I give full context before we.
- [48:32]
A
Also known as disclaimers. He wants to give disclaimers out. Let's hear it.
- [48:36]
B
This past year, I think I told Wells this. I. I was like, I'm gonna start getting into golf, you know, teaming up with the Travis Matthew guys who are awesome. Want to get into it. My hips feel good, by the way. I had a double hip replacement. Sorry that I was an athlete, boys, but I golfed maybe twice in the past 12 years up until this last year. And Tahoe, I believe, was my first or second time golfing this past year in 10 years. So to give context. My thing is, is if I ever really wanted to try and get good in golf, I think I would get good in golf. Okay, go ahead.
- [49:14]
A
Well, now we turn it over to, well, who hosts a golf show on the golf. No, I hear it.
- [49:20]
D
You're obviously an athlete and you're really tall, so that means you can create so much speed. And so much lag. And so I imagine the more you play you're just going to be one of those guys that's going to be able to pipe the ball like 350 and like you're going to be like the best scramble partner that's ever existed.
- [49:39]
C
It.
- [49:40]
D
I think that you're, I think that your golf game is fantastic. But we, so we had this one game. We have this one guy on our show named Yip Strickler and he's a guy who so he, so basically people will be like hey, we've got sandbaggers at our club. We need you to investigate. And then he'll go in there again and like investigate and do this whole thing.
- [50:02]
B
It's amazing.
- [50:03]
D
It's a fantastic follow. He, he exposes so many dirt bags out there. And we had him on and we said who have you found like in the business world or like professional wise is the biggest sandbag and rats out there. And he said without a doubt, it's professional football quarterback.
- [50:25]
B
Really?
- [50:26]
D
And I was like I've, I have heard so don't fall into that. Okay?
- [50:33]
B
No, I'm not that bad. I, I But I was told you I had a blast with you guys man. That was. Tahoe was such an experience. And I'm gonna get into. I want, I need to come play with you guys at your club for sure.
- [50:43]
D
So anytime, seriously, anytime you want to play.
- [50:46]
B
But we went to Scotland and I don't know if. Oh, you've golf Scotland. We talked about that. You went out there with Chris Harrison, right?
- [50:52]
D
Yeah, that was a crazy story. Just in general. He hit me up and he was like, hey, can you be in Edinburgh next week? I've got a free round of golf at, at the Old Course in a, in a room at the Russics. And I was like I'll see you there. Yeah, I bought it that day and that flew over there. Yeah.
- [51:07]
B
Bucket list stuff, man. That was, it was such a great trip.
- [51:10]
D
Yeah.
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A
Well dude, I would love to get out there with you too. Thank you for doing this. Happy holidays. We talked a lot of holiday stuff. Sweet Empire, Winter wars going on right now and just dude, just keep on the busiest man going right now. Keep doing.
- [51:23]
B
Just living the good life, buddy. You're just listening.
- [51:26]
D
This is such a cool experience for me because my mom went to sc. My dad did his residency at sc. I grew up an SC fan when I got to meet Matt Leiner like me sending a selfie we had so.
- [51:39]
B
We had so much fun. Dude, that was such.
- [51:40]
D
Everyone was like, oh my God. And Jerry, I gotta be honest with you, like a huge entourage fan. So getting invited to come on your guys show has been an absolute treat and I'm, I feel very blessed to be asked to come in chit chat with you guys.
- [51:54]
A
Wow. We appreciate you. We're big fans of yours and maybe we'll get a little alt shot. We'll drag Matt into the deep waters of alt shot, which is.
- [52:02]
B
I was asking, I was asking Jerry if we made a bet, but I was like, dude, we need at least 20.
- [52:06]
A
We can't play you and Chad. I'm like an 11. No, we. It'd be me and Wells versus Matt and Chad and we drag him into the old shot universe. So we expose Matt and all of his flaws.
- [52:17]
D
Let's go. We'll play. We'll play Hammer.
- [52:20]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it, Wells.
- [52:24]
B
Thanks, brother.
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D
All right, you guys. Lane, stay.
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A
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A
A massage chair might seem a bit extravagant, especially these days. Eight different settings, adjustable intensity. Plus it's heated and it just feels so good. Yes, a massage chair might seem a bit extravagant, but when it can come with a car, suddenly it seems quite practical. The Volkswagen Tiguan, packed with premium features, like available massaging front seats, it only feels extravagant. All right. Joining us now, Annie Agar as she does each and every week courtesy of Twisted Tea. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea. Today, we're gonna do some twisted trivia. As usual, Matt still clinging to his lead. Clinging, clinging to his lead. I think we're ditching the Hollywood stuff for now. It got a little wonky, but we're sticking with it. But also new little wrinkle for everybody out there. If you go to our socials throwback show, I'm guessing on Twitter, but check Twitter and Instagram. We're gonna give out a twisted trivia question, and the first to reply with the correct answer is gonna get. I guess we'll just call it a care package from Twisted Tea, which is very. Something very good to have overall this holiday season. I'm gonna need it as I continue to watch my giants do some weird stuff. Annie, how are you?
- [55:43]
C
I'm probably better than you're doing. Sorry about that. Sorry about that.
- [55:47]
A
Just, like, you really have such a great gig with your videos because, like, you're getting so much material this year.
- [55:53]
C
Thank you.
- [55:54]
A
You gotta work in Cam. Scatter. Boo. Going to, like, Monday Night Raw or.
- [55:58]
C
That was hilarious.
- [55:59]
A
You gotta work.
- [56:00]
C
Are you guys WWE fans? Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's. Yeah, right. Like that it's scripted.
- [56:05]
A
Yeah, I, I and I enjoy wwe and I also see nothing wrong with it. I know that was a very hot topic for a lot of radio hosts locally in New York. Like, they did. The Giants should never have let that happen. What do you mean he went to wrestling?
- [56:19]
D
Did you see a walking boot?
- [56:20]
A
Yeah.
- [56:21]
C
He's like, dude, I can't play football. I'm miserable. I would want to do something fun, too. I totally get it.
- [56:27]
A
You mean you're worried he's gonna get hurt working with essentially the greatest stuntmen on the face of the earth.
- [56:32]
D
He was also.
- [56:33]
B
Wasn't he front. He was front row UFC too, right? Wasn't he, a couple weeks ago?
- [56:36]
C
Yeah.
- [56:36]
B
The guy's living the dream right now.
- [56:38]
C
Yeah.
- [56:41]
A
So, Matt, another interesting thing though, that's popped up a lot. Shador Sanders obviously got some snaps. He's going to be starting a lot of people, flinging a lot of takes and a lot of this. You know, you played quarterback in the NFL. What are your thoughts on Shador Sanders getting the rock?
- [57:00]
B
Well, one, I'm excited for him is I think he's a good player. We covered him in college. I love, I love Prime. I, I'm excited for his opportunity because it's a huge opportunity for him. You know, it's just interesting because I feel like you're either in, you're either in the camp of like, Shador got screwed and this and that and this and that, or you're in the camp of like, hey, like he kind of got drafted probably maybe where people thought he might go when you actually evaluated him. And he's, he's a fifth round draft pick on an NFL team trying to make the football team. Like, like, like there's just like this torn. So then when he goes in last week and there's no first team reps and this and that, everyone's up in arms, oh, you're setting them up to failure and all of these things. So from my experience and, and I thought, I think Luke McCown had some great insight on, on what a backup does throughout the week. And, and I would, I would say this. First of all, every organization, every, every coach, every starting quarterback, they're all different.
- [57:58]
D
Right.
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B
I've played with quarterbacks who don't need as many reps because I played with, I played with Carson Palmer at the end of his career, he playing 14 years. I played with Matt Schaub in Houston, who got 97% of the reps throughout the week just because Kubiak wanted his starter fully. Like, whatever. Arizona, obviously I, I did start a couple years there and then I backed up Kurt and I got a couple reps. So like I would say on average, in my experience, I probably got from a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday practice, I probably got three to four, maybe five first team reps with the first with the ones maybe. And half of those are probably a run play, handing it off. Are you going? And whatever. So, so, so that, and that's not even exaggeration. So, so let's put that aside. And then now if a quarterback's nursing something like I'm not going to practice today like Carson did a couple then I would take everything I was a starter for that day. The reps that you get that are valuable are scout team reps. Now you're not necessarily running your plays, you're running the other team's plays. But a lot of these concepts are all the same. So you're, you're always mentally visualizing, you're always processing the way you would process in a game. Now, something I know a lot of quarterbacks do, and I did this is I would, I would. Especially in Oakland. I remember I would meet with our equipment guys like Monday, Tuesday, sometimes after practice, and I would go through the script that we just went and I would go through every on air, but I would go through, remember, you know the video of Russell Wilson before the game where he's going all that and everyone made fun of him, but that, that's legit. Like backup quarterbacks are mentally taking reps and visualizing, hey, if this isn't here, this play, 1 versus 2, 3, check them, move to the next place. So you're going through the script, right? You're going through the play. That is not the same as when the bullets are flying on a Sunday, but that's how you mentally get prepared for a game. That's all the reps you get. When a starter goes down in a game. The backup quarterback is the greatest job in the world. You make a shit ton of money sometimes you never play, but then when you do get in the way, you're expected to play at the same level or somewhat close to the starter, no matter who that is. So for the people who are like complaining he's set up to fail and this and that, like, you got to remember Dylan Gabriel's also a rookie. Dylan Gabriel probably needs every rep he can get. So I, I just think it's funny when people make this bigger than it is. I hope Shador balls this week. I hope he freaking kicks ass. He's going to get all the reps. He will be prepared. He's a smart kid. But like, for all the people who say like, oh, reps, like that's, it's a real thing. You, you get very third string, gets no reps, right? Second string depends on the organization. And clearly Stefanski was given all the first team reps to Dylan Gabriel because he's a starter. So you could put that to bed. It's, it's, it's a ridiculous argument. Now maybe he needs to get out of Cleveland. Maybe they don't like all those Things. I get that.
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C
That's what I was gonna say. Maybe it's.
- [60:49]
B
I mean, by the way, I would want him to get out of there, too.
- [60:52]
A
Yeah, but.
- [60:54]
B
But, yeah. I mean, look, I hope he balls, man. I hope he balls.
- [60:57]
C
He had a rough week because then his house got. Got broken into, too. Did you see that?
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A
Yeah. That's crazy.
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B
A couple hundred grand or something.
- [61:03]
D
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I think he's handled it well. You know, like, he's.
- [61:07]
A
He's.
- [61:08]
B
You know, he had some of his moments early on, the media. I think he's handled it well. And look, I. I bet. I bet those guys in that locker room are pulling for him. I bet they're rooting for him. And I hope. I hope he plays well.
- [61:17]
A
Here's my little ray of sunshine on this. Like, oh, he's set up. The one good thing about being in Cleveland and being drafted by the Browns right after Dylan Gabriel. With Joe Flacco there and desean Watson, you know, at some point, you're gonna get the ball. I just knew it. If you thought for one second going into this year, you were not going to see Shadora Sanders, even if it was week 17, he was gonna get first team reps and start at some point. Unless Dylan Gabriel did something remarkable, which I don't think anyone.
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B
The funny thing is, is going to be if. Who do the Browns play this week?
- [61:54]
C
The Raiders.
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A
The Raiders. So passed on it, like, four times as well.
- [61:59]
C
Exactly.
- [62:00]
B
If Shador plays well and they win and Dylan Gabriel's available next week, that. That's gonna be. That's gonna be the. If Shador doesn't start, they go back to Dylan Gabriel, then all hell's gonna break loose.
- [62:14]
C
Yeah.
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B
And I don't necessarily think that's fair or not. I'm just saying if they win and he plays well because it is the Raiders. Yeah, that's gonna be. It'll be interesting to see what Stefanski does with that. So.
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C
Yeah.
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A
So, Annie, before we start with trivia, you know, I was really taken by your video where we all got to spend the day with you and you put up your Christmas tree, and I really got the feeling of how into the holidays you are. And the holidays are upon us. So we have two slates. Right. Coming up, we have the Thanksgiving slate, and then we got Christmas Day, which I think is slightly slowly but surely supplanted. Thanksgiving is maybe a better sports day. But then when I looked at the lineups and Matt way in here, too, it's kind of. It's interesting what they Went obviously we get the Detroit, Dallas games. Right. So Thanksgiving, we got Green Day, your Packers at the Lions, as expected. You got Casey at Dallas, fun game. And you got Bengals at Ravens, which will be what it will be. They thought it was going to be a better game when they made the schedule. But then when you look at Christmas Day, Dallas again at Washington, Lions again at Vikings, and then Broncos again at Chiefs. Why do those three teams get both games? I thought that was insane that you put the same three teams from Thanksgiving on Christmas Day.
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C
It's gotta be. Cause I mean, I know that that's like all while the sports talk shows, they start out with the Cowboys because they generate so much viewership and that's what everybody wants to see, right. On primetime and all that stuff. But. But. Well, no, but like the Cowboys have had. It's felt like a couple prime time games back to back already this year. It just is like a lot of shoving it down our throats. And I don't want to watch the Chiefs, the 5 and 5 Chiefs on prime time again.
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A
Well, I just think that also when you look deeper on the Sunday slate, you got the Eagles at the Bills. How is that game at least not supplanting?
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C
Right.
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A
Lions, Vikings, which is probably a fun game.
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C
But the only thing I think of is people like Christmas Day, obviously not as big of a. A football day as Thanksgiving. And everybody talks about how NBA, like we're trying to take over viewership of the NBA on Christmas Day. Up until recently, like, I don't even remember a Black Friday game. I don't think. I mean, it's just all. It's just changed a lot, the whole Christmas game. So maybe they're. They're thinking they don't need.
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B
I think it was a major success last year, right? Netflix, like, the ratings were huge. The. The viewing was great.
- [64:35]
C
All my family does is sit around and drink mimosas on Christmas Day. So yeah, if I can watch some football during it.
- [64:40]
B
Kids get all their toys so they're distracted. We get to lay on the couch. My. I fly on Thanksgiving. So I have a different. I never have. I haven't had a Thanksgiving in.
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D
Oh, yeah.
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C
Because Ohio State, kind of a big weekend for college football.
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B
It's a huge. It's a huge weekend.
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A
Well, you also mentioned the, the word drinking. And you are here courtesy of Twisted Tea. And we're gonna do some trivia.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Anything new for anything we should know.
- [65:03]
C
Going into this this week? We're gonna do. We're not doing movies. Okay. That one in the in the past, we're gonna do for the picture segment, pictures of guys from a former team and you guys have to guess maybe the guy. And the, the current team is like the biggest part. If you can't guess the guy, I'll give the name and then.
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A
Okay.
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C
They play for currently, so we have.
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B
To guess the name and who they play for.
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C
It's like well known people. So if we, if we can't recognize them right away, I'll give you the.
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B
Name and then if you get one half of the question, does that count as a point?
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C
Sure, yeah, we'll do that.
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B
Oh, so we just got to name.
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C
The guy the point.
- [65:38]
A
Matt is eight and three in trivia games and Matt has 29 total questions. Right. I have 19 questions. Right. I did win two to nothing last week and I'm on the come up. I got them right where I want.
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B
You want to like, hey, I got.
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D
All the first team.
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A
I got all the first team Load management.
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B
I'm just gonna take a couple weeks off, buddy.
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A
I got all the first team reps this week. I'm ready to go. I feel prepared.
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C
First team reps. All right, gentlemen, first question. Are we ready? Ready?
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A
Yes.
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C
Two quarterbacks are tied for most rushing touchdowns in NFL history with 75. Name one of them.
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B
Lamar Jackson.
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C
No, shockingly.
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B
Damn it.
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C
That was a great guess.
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A
Josh Allen.
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C
Josh Allen is one.
- [66:19]
A
Let's go.
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C
Yeah. Do you guys know the other?
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A
I mean, the other extra bonus for the other ones. The other ones What? Difficult?
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C
No, Pretty obvious.
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B
Steve Young.
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C
No. A little bit more current.
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A
Michael Vick.
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C
Not current.
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B
I was gonna say Vic.
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C
Nope.
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A
More current than that.
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C
About the same time. More. Marker. A little bit more.
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B
It's not Cam Newton.
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C
It is Cam Newton.
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A
Cam Newton.
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C
Yeah.
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B
It's 71.
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C
Cam Newton for the kid.
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B
Is that 1 0? Because I got one name right, too.
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A
No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not.
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C
That was bonus.
- [66:53]
A
Yeah, that was, that was for fun.
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C
Okay, who has the record for most past completions in one game in NFL history?
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A
Jacoby.
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B
Brissette.
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A
Jacoby.
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B
Yeah.
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C
I mean, last weekend. That was crazy. By the way. I, I, I don't know how my Disney. It was 47.
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A
47 and a blowout law.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Like, how are you not.
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B
Dude, one time in fun fact, I was playing actually Green Bay preseason game number four. Whatever. I played most of the game and I threw the ball 47 times in the second half.
- [67:31]
A
Increase season.
- [67:32]
B
400 yards. Yeah, we were down. We were down. It was awesome. It was. We were down. I Don't even know. Like 28 to 3, say 30 to 3. And we came back and we lost. We went for a two point conversion to win with no time left. Like three touchdowns. 400 in the second half. Half. I was like 30. 30. I don't know, 37 for 47 in the second half, bro.
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D
It was crazy.
- [67:54]
A
I'm gonna re. Watch that one on YouTube on the flight.
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D
Oh, man.
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B
I'll send you a link.
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A
Send me the link.
- [67:59]
C
That's awesome.
- [68:00]
B
I think you can find it. I forget what year is like 2000.
- [68:02]
A
That could have been a trivia question that. Yeah, Matt would have no problems with and would be completely fair.
- [68:08]
C
That's amazing.
- [68:09]
A
All right.
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C
Okay, last question. Who is the current leader for passing yards this. This season? Drake May. Yeah.
- [68:18]
D
Boom.
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C
Yeah.
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A
It was Daniel Jones, like two weeks ago, I feel like. And then he had two.
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D
Yeah.
- [68:24]
A
Until games.
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C
This will be fun. This will be fun. These are the pictures. So first of all, see if you can. First picture. See if you can figure out who it is and what is their current team because they're. They'll be in the jersey of their.
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A
Nick Chubb.
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B
Houston, Texas.
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D
Houston.
- [68:40]
A
Wow.
- [68:41]
C
That was rad.
- [68:42]
A
That was annihilation. On a. Disney. On Disney. On Disney. Wi Fi.
- [68:47]
C
That. Jerry's on a whole other level here in Disney World. Maybe that's. That's what you need. You just need to be in Disney all the time.
- [68:54]
A
So I get one for that? Yes.
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B
That's.
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C
Yes.
- [68:57]
B
That's as excited as I've seen you get.
- [68:59]
A
I know you're not wrong. You're not wrong.
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C
Okay, next one. Ready? Go.
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B
I beat you on that.
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A
No, you.
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B
Yes, I did.
- [69:14]
A
In my ear.
- [69:14]
B
Thank you.
- [69:15]
A
Swear to you, bro.
- [69:18]
B
You're ridiculous. Oh, I already won, so it really doesn't matter.
- [69:27]
A
No, you gotta get the team.
- [69:29]
B
No, we just settled that. You don't have to get the team. We just said that.
- [69:33]
A
Okay.
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B
I want to say Baltimore.
- [69:36]
A
No, Raiders.
- [69:37]
C
Yeah, Raiders.
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D
Wow.
- [69:39]
C
That took me a second too. I forgot.
- [69:41]
B
Good for you.
- [69:42]
A
On a question in my ear, I swear I said Tyler.
- [69:44]
B
L. Jerry, you say that every time.
- [69:46]
C
We need like an instant replay to see whose mouth moved first.
- [69:51]
B
All right.
- [69:51]
A
Matt extends to his lead long season. I will be drinking twisted tea live on the air next week for this. I need something to that to boost my.
- [70:00]
B
You just saying something to loosen you.
- [70:01]
D
Up a little bit.
- [70:02]
B
I think you're just. You're too. You're too uptight.
- [70:04]
C
I will say this is probably the quickest response time, though. You guys were.
- [70:08]
A
We were on it today. We. We performed a little better after last week.
- [70:11]
B
Well, it's better when we say, like, oh, who was number one in the box office in 2022? Like, come on. We got. We got. Come on.
- [70:18]
A
Any. Thank you very much. Looking forward to your video. Try to work in Cam Scaboo and wrestling if you can.
- [70:25]
C
Oh. 100%.
- [70:27]
A
As a personal favorite.
- [70:28]
C
Kept his hat on, like, the whole time, too. It was very impressive. Very impressive, Cam.
- [70:32]
A
It was very impressive. All right, we'll see you later, Annie. And thank you, everybody out there for listening. We will be back with an episode before Thanksgiving, so we're not quite going to say happy holidays yet. Till then.