*SUBSTACK PREVIEW* Cheek Check

Summary

Podcast Title: Throwing Fits
Host/Author: Throwing Fits
Episode: SUBSTACK PREVIEW Cheek Check
Release Date: December 17, 2024

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Introduction

In this episode of Throwing Fits, hosts James Harris (the Crimson King) and Don D. Lawrence (Lawman) dive deep into their latest projects, product launches, and upcoming events. Balancing humor with insightful discussions, the duo offers listeners a behind-the-scenes look into navigating the modern male zeitgeist.

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Shirt Week and New Work Shirt Launch

Shirt Week Kickoff

The episode begins with James and Lawrence enthusiastically announcing the commencement of Shirt Week. They showcase their latest addition to the Throne Fits apparel line—a sophisticated rosewood work shirt that blends style with functionality.

Design and Fabric Details

James provides a detailed description of the shirt's fabric:

"We are talking about a checkered fabric with custom yarn dyed floating dobby thread in tones of a washed crimson and a crisp effervescent bubbling champagne." [02:05]

Lawrence emphasizes the shirt's versatility:

"I think it is super versatile in that it is chic, but also a piece of workwear." [02:19]

Unique Features

The hosts discuss the shirt's unique features, including its cropped straight hem designed to eliminate the annoyance of shirt tails poking out—solving a common layering issue. Lawrence shares his appreciation for the design:

"This is an elevated work shirt that... bridges the gap from boredom to the bar, baby." [04:10]

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Design Philosophy and Features

Aesthetic and Functionality

James and Lawrence delve into the shirt's aesthetic appeal and functional design. They highlight the careful selection of colors and patterns that make the shirt both stylish and practical for various settings.

Lawrence adds:

"The natural organic characteristics of the fabric are different in terms of any type of shirt we've done, making it more unique and one-of-a-kind over the lifetime of wearing it." [06:24]

James counters the notion of uniqueness with a playful debate:

"Unique is a binary. Something's either unique or not, really." [06:54]

Despite the banter, they agree on the shirt's distinctiveness and quality, reinforcing their commitment to superior craftsmanship.

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Availability and Pricing

Launch Details

The new work shirts are priced at $185 and will be available exclusively through their Substack platform starting Thursday, December 19th. Limited quantities will be available at the upcoming Cobo Event, with broader releases to the general public on Friday, December 20th.

James outlines the purchasing options:

"Available to the stackers on Thursday, December 19th... and available to gen pop on Friday, December 20th, as long as they last." [05:11]

Shipping Information

Lawrence reassures listeners about the shipping timeline:

"They will be shipping out Friday and Monday the 23rd, just in time for Christmas or Hanukkah or Kwanzaa." [05:42]

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Cobo Event Details

Event Highlights

The Cobo Event is scheduled for December 19th, from 6 PM to 9 PM at 51 Orchard Street. Attendees will have the opportunity to:

• Purchase Shirts on the Spot: Immediate access to the new work shirts.
• Experience the Fabric: Touch and feel the quality firsthand.
• Exclusive Access for Substack Subscribers: Limited quantities reserved for their dedicated community.

James emphasizes the exclusivity and value:

"Whether you want to cop on the spot or like to try it on, actually touch the fabric... deserving of your $185, which it is because we made these in the same factories as other brands that charge 2.2x that." [10:43]

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Latest Podcast Content: Interview with the Groms

Behind-the-Scenes Insights

James and Lawrence discuss their recent podcast episode featuring the Groms, known as the "Fab Five." Recorded on a Saturday, the episode offers a candid and humorous look into their collaborative dynamics.

Lawrence humorously comments:

"We sucked." [13:04]

Despite the self-deprecation, James defends the recording experience:

"Always great to get the boys back in the building. Chuck giggling took us off." [13:43]

The interview delves into topics like pop culture, internet trends, and personal anecdotes, promising listeners both entertainment and relatability.

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Upcoming "Critic's Choice" Voting

Voting Opens December 23rd

The hosts announce the launch of their Critic's Choice Awards for 2024, encouraging listeners to participate in selecting their favorites across various categories.

Categories Include:

• Best Brand
• Most Stylish Celebrity
• Biggest Bozo
• Goat of the Year
• Sneaker of the Year
• Collab of the Year
• New Category: Timeline Takeover (celebrating the year's most viral moments)

James muses on the voting process:

"How do you decide that? Is it like what you actually long and pine for with your heart?" [15:24]

Lawrence adds humorously:

"Bad news for Lawrence and 12 other people listening. Yay." [16:05]

The Critic's Choice Awards aim to engage the community in reflecting on and celebrating the year's cultural highlights.

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Miscellaneous Discussions

Favorite Fast Foods

The conversation takes a light-hearted turn as the hosts share their favorite regional fast foods. Lawrence expresses his love for:

"Whataburger, and then my 1A and 1B for me. Something that's really risen up in the rankings. Jack in the Box, baby." [18:28]

James echoes the sentiment:

"Jack in the Box is mad unique." [18:39]

Work and Lifestyle Anecdotes

The hosts exchange stories about their daily routines, work challenges, and personal preferences, adding depth to their relatable and authentic personas.

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Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, James and Lawrence reiterate the importance of their upcoming events, product launches, and community engagement initiatives. They encourage listeners to participate in voting, attend the Cobo Event, and stay connected through their Substack platform.

Lawrence closes with a nod to their dedication:

"We're stone cold psychos, I think is what his record's called." [11:28]

James ensures listeners are informed and excited for what's next:

"We are a DTC D2C... There is no wholesale margin." [11:15]

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Notable Quotes

• Lawrence [02:19]: "This is an elevated work shirt that... bridges the gap from boredom to the bar, baby."
• James [05:11]: "Available to the stackers on Thursday, December 19th... and available to gen pop on Friday, December 20th, as long as they last."
• Lawrence [06:24]: "The natural organic characteristics of the fabric are different... making it more unique and one-of-a-kind over the lifetime of wearing it."
• James [15:24]: "How do you decide that? Is it like what you actually long and pine for with your heart?"
• Lawrence [16:05]: "Bad news for Lawrence and 12 other people listening. Yay."

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This episode of Throwing Fits offers a blend of product insights, community engagement, and the hosts' signature humor, making it a must-listen for new and returning fans alike.

Transcript

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[James Harris]

Throw Gang we are joined by the Dobby Don D. Lawrence lawman and myself, the Crimson King, James Harris. Sounds like something out of a True.

[Lawrence]

Detective 21st century skit sign man welcome.

[James Harris]

To the weekly Running the Boys. We're rolling around recording today's full episode.

[Lawrence]

Which is only available on www.throwingfits.com.

[James Harris]

Before we get into hitting up the SNL afterparty fashion, musical chairs and our favorite uptown festive holiday Old New York watering holes.

[Lawrence]

Real New York.

[James Harris]

Let's get into a a bunch of housekeeping. Lawrence wow.

[Lawrence]

What a fucking week. We have cued up shirt week. Shirt week. James and I are conveniently wearing our beautiful new rosewood work shirts. The Throne Fits work shirt which debuted last October. Yeah, in chattel plaid is back and better than ever.

[James Harris]

Yeah, same pattern, you know and love brand new textiles.

[Lawrence]

Yeah, this is a complicated shirt.

[James Harris]

Like googling the terms. All right, let's get into this.

[Lawrence]

Yes.

[James Harris]

Okay, we are talking about a checkered fabric with custom yarn dyed floating dobby thread in tones of a washed crimson and a crisp effervescent bubbling champagne.

[Lawrence]

Yes, this is an elevated work Shirt that I personally believe. Not just because I'm extreme. I'm invested in this 50% also. These new rolling chairs are too fun. Dude. I'm gonna be off camera half the episode. I think it is super versatile in that it is chic, but also a piece of workwear. Yeah.

[James Harris]

I'm gonna give you credit where credit's due. Thank you. So this was. Okay. So we're rolling out. We got just one shirt. Yeah. A few complications around the second shirt, but that second shirt's on the way. This was kind of like the Larry LED design where you're like, I want to do something that you wanted to go red. Not like too red.

[Lawrence]

No.

[James Harris]

And I think that act. That's actually like a very prescient call. I feel like in the women's wear world, like a pop of red is for sure. If they, if there was a 50s, the, the, the chickies.

[Lawrence]

Women can vote in the 50s.

[James Harris]

The bitch. Yeah.

[Lawrence]

And there are women nominees in a variety of categories, to be clear.

[James Harris]

Mainly the hawk to a girl.

[Lawrence]

She's showing up everywhere.

[James Harris]

She's in every category. Start next week. This was like this. You kind of like LED the design and as we get into like the, the. The dual product drops, especially with shirting, it feels like there's going to always be kind of like a Larry lead and like a Jimmy joint, Right?

[Lawrence]

Yes.

[James Harris]

This was the Larry led. The Jimmy joint got a little up.

[Lawrence]

We. We.

[James Harris]

Don't worry. We found a solution.

[Lawrence]

We course corrected. We're fixing it in post. Don't worry about it. If you follow what I wear on the Internet, on the pod, you know that there's.

[James Harris]

What a sentence.

[Lawrence]

You know that there's a certain type of work shirt that I love. Primarily a Armani Jean style, 90s hard wearing piece of workwear that also can be dressed up. And I hate using that filthy little word. But chic is the best way to describe it. And I think that this bridges the gap.

[James Harris]

Boredom to the bar, baby.

[Lawrence]

Yeah.

[James Harris]

It's super textured, which you can't probably not see. Sorry. Probably not see. You can't probably not see that they can't see me. But you know, we will shout out to God. Aaron for the ecom photos and Peter for the kind of editorial photos. And our boy Andy. Yo. I hope everyone's enjoying the episodic content.

[Lawrence]

Yeah. Big week of fun content on the IG for show.

[James Harris]

Absolutely. That was a lot of fun to do. It's a long day. Yeah, we did it.

[Lawrence]

Here's the deal. It is a Washed muted red with beautiful kind of crispy champagne undertones as we are calling them.

[James Harris]

What's cool.

[Lawrence]

Yeah about this shirt is, you know when we're fucking in the fucking Swatch archive and we're going through and we're iterating, we're ideating and we are creating future. The future. This one really jumped out. It is the, this idea of like a floating dobby thread. It'll make sense when you, when you buy this amazing shirt for $185. Available for sub stack.

[James Harris]

Available to the stackers on Thursday, December 19th.

[Lawrence]

Right.

[James Harris]

Available to those that show up to our Cobble event. Just a few of you will have access to them limited quantity and then available to gen pop on Friday.

[Lawrence]

Yeah.

[James Harris]

December 20th.

[Lawrence]

And as long as they last, which probably won't be.

[James Harris]

I confirmed with the distribution center they will be working on Christmas Eve Eve. So they'll be shipping out Friday and Monday the 23rd. Yeah, because you know, we, we. We made Tiny Tim. Make sure we made Tiny Tim wrap these up.

[Lawrence]

Yeah. His polio stricken limbs will still be wrapping up all your new workshops yourself or somebody else.

[James Harris]

What I was going to say is that yeah, you might not be able to see it on the video here, but like the textured nature of this is very gas. And we say floating dobbing like you said. Like maybe that maybe those two words have never entered your brain together. Chances are very high that that's the case. Yeah, but it'll all make sense when you're able to see like the super close up high res pics, the. When you get to touch it in person at Cobo, when you order it and it arrives at your doors just mere days later, expeditiously, just in time for Christmas or Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or whatever it is you do.

[Lawrence]

Whatever holiday, whatever God you choose to worship. And if that God is consumerism, you're definitely in the right place.

[James Harris]

God touch these shirts.

[Lawrence]

What's my point? What's really cool is that it's like the, the natural kind of organic characteristics of the fabric on these I think are different in, in terms of any type of shirt we've done where like over time, this one I think more than any other is going to really like mold and distress to the wear. So it's going to be probably more unique and one of a kind over the lifetime of you wearing it than probably anything else we've ever sold.

[James Harris]

The more you wear it, the more unique it is. Although unique is a binary. Something's either unique or not really?

[Lawrence]

Yeah.

[James Harris]

You can't. There's no levels of uniqueness.

[Lawrence]

It's not a subjective thing.

[James Harris]

No, it is.

[Lawrence]

Right.

[James Harris]

So there's levels, but it's a binary.

[Lawrence]

Oh.

[James Harris]

You can't be more unique than something else. You be more different.

[Lawrence]

Yo, this shit. More different, though.

[James Harris]

This shit is. This shit is unique.

[Lawrence]

Yeah. The details in terms of fit, for anyone who has the work shirt, the previous work shirt, you already know this, but anyone new here, these are a intentionally cropped straight hem shirt. So that boxy, it's like the. Perfect for this time of year. I know a lot of you guys have boxy leather jackets, boxy fucking Carhartt Detroit jackets. Something in between on that scale. This is not. I hate this. Dude. When you wear your favorite crop jacket and you're like, well, I have to tuck my shirt in or else my tails are going to be poking out. This has been designed to absolutely eliminate that fucking. It's a cl. I hate. It is a clusterfuck of layering. I hate when that happens.

[James Harris]

We are, if anything, we are just humble problem solvers, even when that problem is as inconsequential and niche and unique as to just. Oh, I don't want my shirt tails poking out of my blouse.

[Lawrence]

That'll ruin my day, dude.

[James Harris]

I know. And now your day is good because we designed. Oh. The work shirt has become part of, like, throwing fits. Essentials. No, that's.

[Lawrence]

That's not it. Our. Our core product.

[James Harris]

Our core product program.

[Lawrence]

Yeah. Our core product offering. So, yeah, they are cropped for everyone's layering pleasure. By design, the fabric is soft as a rose, but it's a work shirt, so, you know, this is hard as wood, dude.

[James Harris]

I was doing. I was doing some work in my. I want. I wore my shadow plaid work shirt this morning because I was doing some work hauling a bunch of boxes of cans of canned wine.

[Lawrence]

You're also wearing these when we hauled up our new chairs, which we'll get into later. Yes, up, that's at least two flights.

[James Harris]

But the cans of wine. Literally hundreds and hundreds of cans of wine down to the perilous basement of Colbo. If you ever seen those stairs, you know what the I'm talking about.

[Lawrence]

How many people have CTE from smashing their head on that beam?

[James Harris]

Me. Don't worry. I did it for y'all. I made sure that everyone at the party will be. Whether you're. It's another binary. You're either like, oh, no, it's a trinary.

[Lawrence]

Oh, I love it.

[James Harris]

From Orion.

[Lawrence]

Yeah.

[James Harris]

Hard Seltzer from Dirty Water and wine from Zev Ravine Selections. Yeah, so it's a trinary.

[Lawrence]

It's the. It's a triad dude. It's a holy trinity of free holiday booze. What more do you want?

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[James Harris]

So the details, what more do you need? December 19th CBO 6 to 9pm 51 Orchard street pull up. Yeah, we will have work shirts available for sale whether you want to like cop on the spot or like try it on, actually touch the fabric. Judge for yourself whether it's worthy of your $185, which it is because we made these in the same factories as other brands that charge, I don't know, 2.2x that there is no. Because we are. Because we are a DTC DTC D2C.

[Lawrence]

DTC DTC direct to consumer.

[James Harris]

Because we are a Don to a Don C Brand Don Don to clothing. Don Tolver Brand Don Tolver Clothing. Yeah, we. There's no wholesale margin, so whatever. Just a little fucking math for you nerds.

[Lawrence]

Yeah. And Like Don Tolver. We're stone cold psychos I think is what his record's called. Yeah, just real quick, it is a five button front. We already talked about the cropped nature and the straight hem. There are dual chest buttoned patch pockets so you can store your zins, your cigs. You could put a fucking can of wine or beer or hard seltzer up in that bitch. There is ample space that make these a true work shirt. Even though again, we just kind of elevated this shit as we are want to do because. Yeah, listen, bro, I'm not going to get into the whole stolen valor nature of workwear and all that. Everyone already knows where my proclivities are or where they, where my proclivities lay, I should say. And I think this is kind of like just like it was last time with the beautiful shadow plaid. It's like if we're going to do a work shirt, this is how throwing fits does a workshop.

[James Harris]

Yeah. You know, we're like mew mew doing a Detroit jacket. We're not charging $5,000 for it.

[Lawrence]

Dude. Those are so sick though.

[James Harris]

185December 19th on the substack December 20th. Gen pop pulsico on December 19th evening time 6 to 9pm 100% cotton made in India. All that good stuff.

[Lawrence]

Well, you wear, you wear a medium, I wear a large. Yeah, it's the only cut and so that matters. So just keep it locked.

[James Harris]

Yeah. No pre order are ready to ship out. Everyone knows the deal. Okay. We talked about the shirt, we talked about the cobble event. We also need to mention, yeah, tomorrow we got together with the groms and cut a Fab 5 throwing fits. Year interview, Critics Choice Award spectacular holiday special we recorded on Saturday.

[Lawrence]

We sucked.

[James Harris]

But.

[Lawrence]

Well, you know, here's the thing. Normally I'd be like, it sucks to record on a Saturday. But when the Fab Five get together and they're back in the building and magic is made, that is never time wasted in my opinion.

[James Harris]

I guess they do have jobs. So it's like Saturday or Sunday or nothing. Well, what, What?

[Lawrence]

People always want the groms around, as do we. But it's like we are recording right now on Monday as we always do for boys only. This is business hours, right? We have to literally, when we need these guys in the building on the mics, we got to do it on.

[James Harris]

A weekend we put together. How long was that episode? I couldn't see the time. Was it two and a half hours?

[Lawrence]

I think it's, I think it's I think it's something around 2:20, 2:30.

[James Harris]

Always great to get the boys back in the building. Chuck giggling is took us off. Robbie with his brat inflected insights into pop culture and Internet culture. Chef with his elevated musical and even like cinematic takes. Yeah, Larry actually not actually Larry driving.

[Lawrence]

Oh I love the plane.

[James Harris]

Driving the boat which he can't drive but he did a pretty good job thanks. Me just chilling in the cut.

[Lawrence]

You get to relax.

[James Harris]

I get to what?

[Lawrence]

You get to relax for a change.

[James Harris]

Well what do they. Oh, you're the straight guy. Right. And I Do people still confuse that where they're like wait, Lawrence is gay?

[Lawrence]

Yeah, the New Yorker called me gay. No, I think people still. I thought he was gay. Every so often will use will make me the butt of a joke because you were called the straight man of throwing fits.

[James Harris]

And I, which I so amply and aptly mentioned was like, oh yeah, I went home. And after.

[Lawrence]

Yeah, exact.

[James Harris]

Come on guys. I, I just set up the premise for the Buffalo Wild wings story.

[Lawrence]

Context is king, as we always say. And my man was contextless. Yeah, exactly. That's a, that's a fun one. So that'll be behind the paywall for all.

[James Harris]

I slept at a bus stop that night. Right?

[Lawrence]

All you said was you didn't sleep at home. So yeah, you could have been anywhere.

[James Harris]

Maybe I didn't go to sleep at all.

[Lawrence]

That's true.

[James Harris]

I. I did.

[Lawrence]

So that's. So we're doing all pay walled content for the subscribers for the only fans that matter of the only podcast now. I guess all our fans matter, but some matter more than others. Some are more unique. And that'll be out tomorrow and I can't wait. That's like the best. Yeah. And here's the other thing too. We should mention that following that next week, Fitty's voting is open.

[James Harris]

Yeah. So the critics choice, we went through the 50s. It was like whatever your personal favorite of the year was, whether that. How do you decide that? Is it like what you actually long and pine for with your heart? Is it what you kind of more objectively think like was the best or the worst based on external factors outside of like your own brain? That being said, Fitty's voting, the categories that we ran through opens on Monday, December 23rd.

[Lawrence]

Yep.

[James Harris]

We got the classics that you know and love. Best brand, most stylish celebrity, Biggest bozo, Goat of the Year, Sneaker of the Year, Collab of the year, trend of.

[Lawrence]

The year, Brand of the year.

[James Harris]

I said brand of the year. Movie of the Year. Move of the year.

[Lawrence]

TV show of the Year, Musical artist.

[James Harris]

Of the Year, Musical Arts of the Year. Bad news for Lawrence and 12 other people listening. Yay. And tie. Dollar sign not included on Musical Arts of the Year.

[Lawrence]

It was not because I wanted to vote for vultures. It was more of like, was. It was vultures one even remotely good. And does Yay even currently have any cultural currency around the most famous man in the world? He kind of still is, though. Either way, no, vultures did not make it. You cannot vote for it. Sorry.

[James Harris]

We tried to keep the list a little tighter this year, which I don't know if we did a good job of. Well, but we add a new category.

[Lawrence]

Yeah, we have the new.

[James Harris]

Honestly. Might be a fun category of the year.

[Lawrence]

Yeah, it's timeline Takeover. We said we were gonna add it. We kept notes all year. The best viral moments, some good, some bad, some involving, some involving murder.

[James Harris]

Yeah. Moments that I think inspired virality. Yes. Like, it was like the pop culture moments of the year. So everything from hawk to a girl to the tunnel Jews to the various assassinations, successful and unsuccessful over the past year, to the Democratic Party, the bed to labs. Oh, my God, the Scottish meth lab. You forget that this happened right here.

[Lawrence]

Which is why the category is important, because you're gonna look at that and go, oh, my God, what a great day. In the timeline that was. And you get to pick your favorite. We decided not to include things that were just straight memes, like chill guy, shout out to the chill guy. And, you know, he doesn't even care that he's on the list because he's just a chill guy and he's just a meme and he did not make it. But that's kind of where we drew the line of demarcation. We get way more into this, way more in depth. Like James said, for nearly two and a half hours tomorrow. That is truly my favorite episode of the year. I think the audience.

[James Harris]

Episode of the year.

[Lawrence]

Episode of the year. We. We're not. Did we ever say that we're gonna do like, pod Episode of the year? No, like of our show.

[James Harris]

No, no.

[Lawrence]

I'll be way too self serving. Yeah, I think we. We are including the throne fits Gazelle, though, in Sneaker of the Year.

[James Harris]

Okay. Yeah.

[Lawrence]

So that's like the one kind of bone we threw ourselves with that said that kind of tees up our end of the year content that culminates in early 2025, when we will break down all the winners and losers of the 2024 50s, which you can vote on next week. I believe that's all of the housekeeping.

[James Harris]

Yes.

[Lawrence]

Then we ran through that we're gonna.

[James Harris]

Have another boys only before New Year's.

[Lawrence]

Yeah, okay.

[James Harris]

Sorry, I didn't know if you're like trying to like. No, no, no specific with the holiday schedule or whatever. Nah, yeah, Larry's got to go to Texas. I just got to go get some exotic leathers from dead Uncle Steve or.

[Lawrence]

Whatever his name was. Bobby, I will know. I will not be smuggling any exotics over the border.

[James Harris]

You have to get to send your. Your mother in law links of presents you want which we're gonna get into.

[Lawrence]

I will be eating so much good regional fast food though. I can't wait. My big well always whataburger. And then my 1. That's 1A and then 1B for me. Something that's really risen up in the rankings.

[James Harris]

Jack in the Box.

[Lawrence]

Jack in the Box, baby. Egg rolls, tacos. Egg rolls, curly fries. They got it, dude. Jack in the Box has fucking everything and a lot of it motherfucking slaps.

[James Harris]

Jack in the Box is mad unique.

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