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James Harris
Throw gang. We are joined by. He's Mad for Plaid, Lawrence Lossman and myself, the Red Baron, James Harris. Welcome to the weekly running of the Boys with today's full episode only available on www.Throwing fits.com. before we get into accidentally going to the same Tyler show together or not together, I guess finding the best Jamaican food in New York City and Lawrence standing up for divorced guys.
Lawrence Lossman
Yeah.
James Harris
Let's get into.
Lawrence Lossman
Someone's got to do it. Let's. I. Yeah.
James Harris
They only need standing up for if one shits on them, which it sounds like. We'll get into it. Let's get into a fit check.
Lawrence Lossman
It's funny you said Mad for plaid. One of the weirdest things I've, like, ever done in my career is buy those shorts is in 20.
James Harris
Your career?
Lawrence Lossman
Yeah. I'll tell. Let me explain. In 2012 through four pins, I was hired by Paul Stewart to do, like, window dressing. And the theme was Mad for Plaid that season. So I built out, like. I think it was like two mannequin fits and there's a whole video that I'll include in the rec center. That is ridiculous.
James Harris
Sick.
Lawrence Lossman
From back in the day, like, literally going through the thought process of how to wear plaid and the window dressing I did for Paul.
James Harris
Did you make them dress like at the country club?
Lawrence Lossman
What you're doing What.
James Harris
What are you going for today?
Lawrence Lossman
I think, yeah, I'm doing a country club code switch. For sure.
James Harris
To switch?
Lawrence Lossman
Yeah. I mean, do I just switch into.
James Harris
Looking like an asshole?
Lawrence Lossman
You. As we were talking off Mike, I am not immune to criticism. I don't normally dress like a country club asshole, though. I might dress like an asshole, but not of a certain lie.
James Harris
This is a lot. You always pop your collar, though. The loafers with no socks. Are you popping it?
Lawrence Lossman
Well, might as well, right?
James Harris
Call it pretty looking. Pretty flash there, bud.
Lawrence Lossman
Okay, my bad.
James Harris
I need some fucking.
Lawrence Lossman
I need a little help like a divorced dad.
James Harris
Who's our advertiser? Is it Blue Chew? Is it hims?
Lawrence Lossman
No, it's. It's not.
James Harris
Hey, it happens to a lot of guys. A lot of guys.
Lawrence Lossman
It. It has. None of our advertisers have anything to do with your penis.
James Harris
I heard that. Gen Z. I finally read the Gia Tolentino article that Gen Z no longer. I don't believe it.
Lawrence Lossman
I think that's what people have been saying.
James Harris
No, I still think they're. I think they're just, like, being secretive about it. No, just, like, clandestine. How do you define sex, Lawrence?
Lawrence Lossman
Vaginal. Oh, no. Sorry. Excuse Me, straight sex. I define it as penetration. How about that? With no qualifier. Excuse me. I'm sorry. I almost got caught. It's. I forgot I wasn't at the country club with the fellas.
James Harris
Very myopic of you.
Lawrence Lossman
Wait, what was her. What were some general findings like Big.
James Harris
Yeah, it wasn't. It was more a. There's a slew of books and literature that have come out around that. Whether it's like and you don't believe kind of like, you know, kind of the opposite of what it usually. It's typically the. The usual. There's like a new sexual revolution. Right. And some people are wringing their hands but it's the opposite. Where it's like used to be teens are having too much sex now teens aren't having enough sex.
Lawrence Lossman
Make up your mind America.
James Harris
Yeah, yeah.
Lawrence Lossman
I encourage. I think that what throwing fits is pro teen sex.
James Harris
Pro.
Lawrence Lossman
Yeah. But with obviously use protection. Be smart.
James Harris
Don't say we're protein sex.
Lawrence Lossman
We don't release the files we don't want. We're not out here promoting babies having babies. But we are promoting having a good time because we're not here for a long time.
James Harris
Yeah. If you want to fuck, don't dress like this. What are you wearing, Lawrence?
Lawrence Lossman
Ok, today I have on Gucci sleds, no socks which yeah now that I'm thinking about it definitely plays into the whole vibe today. The shorts are vintage Nike tennis shorts but not really tennis shorts. They're double pleated button.
James Harris
Are they lined?
Lawrence Lossman
No, they're just like feel these. It's not like a madras but it's.
James Harris
They're kind of thick.
Lawrence Lossman
They're cotton.
James Harris
Nah, maybe they're pretty robust.
Lawrence Lossman
They're. It's a pretty gross puke adjacent colorway which really is what drew me to them.
James Harris
Yeah. You look great in tennis shorts. Let me tell you. You're gonna hit the court anytime soon. Let's do it.
Lawrence Lossman
Well, these aren't really tennis shorts. Right. I might need to buy another pair. Give me a heads up, I'll buy a whole new kit.
James Harris
Why'd you post the challengers song?
Lawrence Lossman
Because he wears the plaid. A more technical version of I think these like it was called the Nike Challenge Court Challenge.
James Harris
What inspired you to buy those?
Lawrence Lossman
Like I said last week I was watching Wimbledon. They have the old logo on the white shorts. I was like oh I really would love a pair of white shorts. Couldn't find the right new pair for me on the Nike website so I hit ebay and all the gross 90s plaids were jumping out at me, so I was like, what, What.
James Harris
What logo is that?
Lawrence Lossman
I think it's called the Nike Court challenge logo.
James Harris
Yeah, so they're tennis shorts.
Lawrence Lossman
Okay. With my tennis shorts, I am wearing a Lacoste polo. Just GR off the rack, like I said. Almost witnessed a hate crime against a Chinese immigrant when I was Soho. Just, you know, easy. Something like a tennis polo. Do people play tennis in like, Lacoste GR cotton pk?
James Harris
Probably not.
Lawrence Lossman
It's not. You need like a moisture wicking fabric.
James Harris
Yeah, you don't need moisture wicking.
Lawrence Lossman
Right?
James Harris
Like, I only wear moisture wicking. Which, like, honestly, like, does even wick moisture. I don't know.
Lawrence Lossman
You're a sweaty guy.
James Harris
If only wear it because of the humidity. I only wear it if I'm playing over an hour.
Lawrence Lossman
Okay.
James Harris
An hour less. I'll just wear a T shirt.
Lawrence Lossman
Have you ever played tennis in a.
James Harris
Polo shirt in a performance? Like a performance fabric polo?
Lawrence Lossman
Yeah. All right.
James Harris
I think Fila had one that had like. It was like a pretty ugly brown with like. Or pretty ugly brown with like navy pinstripes.
Lawrence Lossman
And would you ever wear that on the street?
James Harris
Hell no.
Lawrence Lossman
Okay, interesting. I guess that's. That's where we diverge. You wearing it on the court? I'm wearing it with the people.
James Harris
Well, hold on. You led me to. I don't wear that. I wore it once on the court.
Lawrence Lossman
Yeah. Okay.
James Harris
Well, no, it's actually the. The best shirt I wore this past week in tennis camp was a mountain hardware tee.
Lawrence Lossman
Was that performance fabric?
James Harris
Yeah, it was like, for like, you know, hot hikes, I guess.
Lawrence Lossman
Okay.
James Harris
When you're in the safari with a Serengeti hot ass hike.
Lawrence Lossman
Is it an SPF like fabric?
James Harris
No, bro. I'm not a gear queer like you are.
Lawrence Lossman
All right, your words.
James Harris
Your words, not mine.
Lawrence Lossman
Well, they're your words today, brother. The hat is small talk studio rolly on the wrist, Wedding ring on the fingy wifey on the pinky chrome. On the other hand, somebody's Lubnas. I know we've. There's so many somebody styles. I think it's nice to shout out the model to make things make the shopping at home easier for you guys. And I am drinking a hydro flask full of Lower east sides finest. James, what did you wear today?
James Harris
I'm wearing our legacy clove sneakers. These socks are bumba socks. The shorts are our boy Todd over at Todd Schneider.
Lawrence Lossman
Schneider.
James Harris
The tea is a pretty old Our legacy workshop tee.
Lawrence Lossman
Great color.
James Harris
Thanks. This is from before you were throwing our legacy Customer, I believe, from Matt Longa. That's all I'm saying. The hat is old kin folk.
Lawrence Lossman
How is that necessary?
James Harris
No, I'm just saying it's like, it's. I. I pretty sure I have. I got to do a final count one day of all the workshop TE's I have.
Lawrence Lossman
Oh, you probably have. Do you think you have more than anyone alive?
James Harris
No.
Lawrence Lossman
No. I mean, who doesn't work at our Legacy?
James Harris
No.
Lawrence Lossman
Oh, okay.
James Harris
Remember the. Our Legacy boys in South Africa?
Lawrence Lossman
No.
James Harris
You didn't follow that account. Wait, they were like our Legacy Boys.
Lawrence Lossman
And they just rocked our legacy in Cape Town.
James Harris
I think they're just fans. It's a defunct account now. Maybe they moved on to, I don't know, like opera, say, or some really.
Lawrence Lossman
Really just great brands for the. The sweltering South African weather. South Africa.
James Harris
I mean, it's so our Legacy Club. Is this what it is?
Lawrence Lossman
Maybe. I don't know. I don't. I feel like I never. This never came across my desk.
James Harris
Yeah. Again, not a real one.
Lawrence Lossman
Can I. Can I ask you, actually, a piece of important information we've been talking about for the past couple months, Some color stories that are happening that we saw happening in menswear. Red, Yellow, I think. Am I missing one? I think those are the main two, right?
James Harris
Red, yellow, gray.
Lawrence Lossman
For me, the Ronald McDonald pack, the mustard, ketchup pack. As this year in the summer is wrapping up, do you still. Do we think that's still a call out?
James Harris
Absolutely.
Lawrence Lossman
Okay.
James Harris
Absolutely.
Lawrence Lossman
You heard it from the Baron.
James Harris
Tomato, cinnamon, burnt brick, all the reds, baby.
Lawrence Lossman
We're not taking things together.
James Harris
We're taking it back. Yellow. I don't know. Yellow's tough. I think it works better maybe like in the prime summer. End of summer when you're all, you know, toasted and tan.
Lawrence Lossman
For sure. I think that skin tone.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lawrence Lossman
Probably applies a lot more than you would like necessarily give a credence if it was like other colors, but red and yellow.
James Harris
You want to be tan red. I mean, would red.
Lawrence Lossman
Would.
James Harris
Would you wear red?
Lawrence Lossman
I believe I do have.
James Harris
I. Do you.
Lawrence Lossman
I have some red. Not a ton.
James Harris
You have a red hat, that's for damn sure. With that outfit.
Lawrence Lossman
No, I don't. I don't actually. I don't think. I was having a conversation with a fashion friend of ours. A friend. And he made the claim because I think. I don't forget what it was that I sent him some vintage link and it was a red hat. I can't remember the brand, but his thing was like, I Have a hard policy, full stop. I will not wear a red hat because of the association. I don't. It's just what he said to me. It seemed like a bit of a bridge too far. It's like if it doesn't say, you know, if there's not a magazine, it's.
James Harris
A pretty specific red. I was talking to a friend in the pod, Emily Don Long, and she's like, yo, I'm making red hats. We're taking red hats back. Yeah, like the association also like, she does them in a certain wash, so it's not just like bright red, I guess. Are mag hats, trucker hats? I don't even know.
Lawrence Lossman
I think there's trucker varieties for sure for that kind of, you know, maga Long haulsman, but I think they make a variety of semis. Wait, with Emily Dong Long, she'll like pre distress those hats for you, right?
James Harris
I don't, I don't want to say for sure. I don't know if she washes them herself or if they come washed. I saw some, by the way. Went to a great vintage store. This is not new intel. Like this is like a store that we love and support. But my first time in there was Front Street General down in Dumbo.
Lawrence Lossman
I'll see you on Front Street.
James Harris
Yeah. Cause I'm never. No reason to fucking be in Dumbo.
Lawrence Lossman
Dumbo is pretty bad.
James Harris
Dumbo's pretty fucking dumb ski, bro.
Lawrence Lossman
Yeah, not a fan.
James Harris
But great washed baseball hats, 15 bucks a pop.
Lawrence Lossman
With like their logo or blanks.
James Harris
Nothing. Yeah, great. Like a nice wash black, Nice wash purples. A nice wash ripe tomato. Making like an heirloom that doesn't make.
Lawrence Lossman
You feel like a bot or like an NPC that you're just wearing like a blank. Like a Kendall Roy blank ass hat.
James Harris
No, not really. What is this? Oh, this has New York City from Kinfolk.
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Podcast Summary: Throwing Fits – SUBSTACK PREVIEW Proustian Rush
Episode Details
In the episode titled "SUBSTACK PREVIEW Proustian Rush," hosts James Harris and Lawrence Lossman delve into a variety of topics ranging from personal anecdotes and fashion to societal observations and generational behaviors. The conversation is candid, humorous, and offers insightful commentary on navigating the contemporary male zeitgeist.
The episode kicks off with James and Lawrence sharing amusing personal stories. James mentions an accidental overlapping of their attendance at a Tyler show, setting a lighthearted tone.
James Harris (00:00):
"We are joined by... accidentally going to the same Tyler show together or not together, I guess..."
Lawrence recounts one of the most unusual moments in his career related to his "Mad for Plaid" persona. He explains how he was hired by Paul Stewart between 2012 and 2014 to create window displays themed around plaid fashion.
Lawrence Lossman (00:32):
"One of the weirdest things I've, like, ever done in my career is buy those shorts is in 20."
He further elaborates on the meticulous process behind styling plaid and the challenges it posed.
Lawrence Lossman (00:38):
"From back in the day, like, literally going through the thought process of how to wear plaid and the window dressing I did for Paul."
The hosts transition into a discussion about fashion choices, particularly the perception of dressing like a "country club asshole." Lawrence grapples with the balance between embracing a certain style and avoiding negative stereotypes.
Lawrence Lossman (01:22):
"I don't normally dress like a country club asshole, though. I might dress like an asshole, but not of a certain lie."
James teases Lawrence about his fashion, leading to a playful exchange about their respective wardrobes.
A significant portion of the conversation revolves around societal changes in sexual behavior among Gen Z, referencing an article by Gia Tolentino. The hosts debate whether teenagers are experiencing a sexual revolution or if their behaviors are being misrepresented.
James Harris (01:52):
"I heard that. Gen Z. I finally read the Gia Tolentino article that Gen Z no longer. I don't believe it."
Lawrence Lossman (02:50):
"Make up your mind America."
They conclude with their stance on advocating for responsible and protected sexual activity among teens.
Lawrence Lossman (02:54):
"We are promoting having a good time because we're not here for a long time."
The conversation shifts back to fashion as both hosts describe their current outfits in detail, highlighting brand choices and personal style preferences.
Lawrence Lossman (03:08):
"Today I have on Gucci sleds, no socks which yeah now that I'm thinking about it definitely plays into the whole vibe today."
James shares his attire, emphasizing his loyalty to specific brands and his extensive collection of workshop tees.
James Harris (06:20):
"I'm wearing our legacy clove sneakers. These socks are bumba socks. The shorts are our boy Todd over at Todd Schneider."
A key segment of the episode focuses on emerging color trends in menswear, particularly the resurgence of red and yellow hues. The hosts discuss the versatility and seasonal appropriateness of these colors.
Lawrence Lossman (07:30):
"I think those are the main two, right?"
James Harris (07:55):
"Absolutely."
They explore various shades and the psychological impact of colors like tomato red and mustard yellow, considering factors like skin tone and seasonal transitions.
Lawrence Lossman (08:05):
"We're taking it back. Yellow... works better maybe like in the prime summer."
The hosts express their appreciation for vintage stores, specifically mentioning Front Street General in Dumbo. They discuss the appeal of washed baseball hats and the importance of sustainable fashion choices.
James Harris (09:47):
"Went to a great vintage store. This is not new intel. Like this is like a store that we love and support."
Lawrence Lossman (09:56):
"With like their logo or blanks."
They highlight how vintage accessories can enhance modern outfits while reducing the environmental footprint.
Throughout the episode, James and Lawrence maintain a conversational and engaging rapport, seamlessly transitioning between personal stories, fashion insights, and societal commentary. Their ability to intertwine humor with meaningful discussions provides listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful perspectives on navigating today's cultural landscape.
Notable Quotes:
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