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Lawrence Schlossman
Throw gang. We are joined by the checkerboard chief, Lawrence Schlossman, myself, the long sleeve dong skis, James Harris. Welcome to the weekly running of the.
James Harris
Boys with today's full episode Only available on www.ThrowingFits.com. what is a dong ski?
Lawrence Schlossman
I don't know, bro. No long dongs, sleeves, sleaze skis, super bowl in the big sleazy. We had Emily Dawn Long on two weeks ago.
James Harris
Yeah, it just sounds like a dirty dick.
Lawrence Schlossman
That's, I think what it is because before we get into getting, before we get into getting STD tested to the dulcet tones of Drake Fashion. More fashion designer, musical chairs. But honestly, a little more interesting this time, I think.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lawrence Schlossman
And dinner with the mayor of New York City. Let's get into a fit check.
James Harris
You want to start?
Lawrence Schlossman
Sure. On the feet. I got the newsletter twos this letter.
James Harris
Twos?
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah, bro. I have a, a big trip coming up that we're going to get into where I had to break in some hiking boots because I'm doing like a pretty serious trek. And I had the Blackbird spy plane oboes collab from the summer on ice, literally because I was kind of waiting for the winter and for these like terrible, wintry conditions to really hit before busting them out. But I had to put on the fast track and bring them in. So I've been wearing them nearly every single day for the last week.
James Harris
Very comfortable.
Lawrence Schlossman
And I will be wearing them. Yeah. Whether super laced up, choked out, or just kind of like easy breezy, slip on, slip off. And I will be wearing them every day for the following week to really get them nice and dusty.
James Harris
When we tee up this trip, are we gonna talk today about, like, what's the weather like at this destination, how you're gonna pack? Because I have a lot of questions.
Lawrence Schlossman
We'll get into it.
James Harris
Okay. It's exhaust. It's quite the exotic location.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah. I had a. A stylish guy on the train come up to me and ask me for ID on the shoes. Told him they're the newsletter threes.
James Harris
The letter two.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah. For five bucks a month, you could have gotten these, bro.
James Harris
Damn. Did you try to buy them off your dogs?
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah, I said, no dice. There's only like 50 these and I.
James Harris
Would be walking around socks.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah. Shout out Jonah and Aaron for. Honestly, these are great.
James Harris
People were mad at us for not putting them on the fitty sneaker the year we might have actually missed an opportunity to show love and let the sneaker.
Lawrence Schlossman
And that's why I think we should expand sneaker of the year to footwear of the year.
James Harris
This is not a sneaker.
Lawrence Schlossman
This is a boot.
James Harris
A low top. A low top hiking boot.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah. By Oboz.
James Harris
Not. Not an approach shoe sneaker or whatever. Right.
Lawrence Schlossman
It's a. It's a trail. Maybe it's a trail sneaker. I don't know. But no Bozo. Only oboes. The socks are. Lusso. Got my socks at the slipper store. The pants are still by hand. Shout out the Japanese homies.
James Harris
Where do you buy? Because this came up when I was, like, going through the most recent rec center. Where do you buy? Still by hand.
Lawrence Schlossman
We got these at. What's the.
James Harris
Are they at Venn?
Lawrence Schlossman
They're at Mohawk.
James Harris
They're at Mohawk. Right.
Lawrence Schlossman
I'm pretty sure they're. They're. They're at Neighbor or End.
James Harris
Okay. They're at Shout out to Mandem. No, sorry, I'm not trying to.
Lawrence Schlossman
I got this. I got these at a French store that I'm blanking on the name of.
James Harris
Rendezvous.
Lawrence Schlossman
Rendezvous. Thank you. When we were there for the last fashion week.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lawrence Schlossman
But yeah, they're pretty widely available. It's not a huge selection, but maybe at Ventu. I don't know. Is this Stein?
James Harris
No. Well, thinking of. I'm thinking of. Well, Mantle's not Japanese.
Lawrence Schlossman
Australian.
James Harris
Right. But when I'm thinking of, like, that tier still by Hand Mantle. Stein.
Lawrence Schlossman
Kale.
James Harris
Kale. But the. But still by Hand is not at ven yet or might not be.
Lawrence Schlossman
I don't know if it is or not. I wouldn't be surprised, it being that it is a big brain, small Japanese brand. I'm sure that our friend Christopher Green with no E has been doing a buy there.
James Harris
Okay.
Lawrence Schlossman
For still by Hand, the belt is sunflower. The shirt is MF Pen. I love this shirt.
James Harris
That's gauzy, baby.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah, baby.
James Harris
It looks mad. It's a little comfy. Really?
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah. And, yo, I want to. I want to run this by you real quick.
James Harris
Hit me.
Lawrence Schlossman
We're not trend predictors, but, you know, because trends don't exist anymore, right? As established, I sense a vibe on the horizon.
James Harris
Okay, hit me.
Lawrence Schlossman
I'm a vibe sensor. I think that driven by specifically MF Pen and maybe secondarily our legach, to a certain extent, we're gonna get this, like, interesting little, like, menswear slash grunge hybrid moment. You love a thermal.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lawrence Schlossman
You know? Yes. Right now it's. You are not a vibe, bro, because you're putting the thermal underneath the faded tea. Photo assistant AB But Hugo at MF Pen has been doing that for a minute, and I think, like, with the right. I don't know, just without, like, forcing it, right? Whether it's like, a thermal, whether it's kind of just like shredded raw hems, whether it is kind of like the. The like, long sleeves. I mean, even, like this. This sweater you're wearing is. Could be contextualized as a little grungy.
James Harris
Or a little sca. But you're not wrong, right? Kurt Cobain always, like, had that iconic mohair cardigan or mohair adjacent cardigan, right?
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah. That big thing is like. Like fashion being like. Well, even, like, no one understands me.
James Harris
Not to spoiler alert, but, like, look at the frayed seam on the. Even the. The velvet jeans I have on.
Lawrence Schlossman
But just like the styling of MF Penn and our legacies blood knot.
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James Harris
So this is. It's interesting to say that because the most iconic grunge moment in Capital F fashion is the Marc Jacobs Perry Ellis grunge show that came out in 92 that was like, panned and obviously directly influenced by Nirvana and Nevermind. But like, now is this, like, North Star for, like, iconic fashion disruptor moments. I wonder if. Because there hasn't been a grunge moment, like, since actual grunge. Right. Or my bugging. I think there has Jerry Lorenzo.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah. And that was more like kind of like skinhead Northwestern skinhead shit.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lawrence Schlossman
And I'm not, look, I'm not, I'm not saying that it's going to be like the dominant trend or anything or like people going full fucking core Cobain cosplay, but seen a lot of flannels. I think I even saw like a high somebody like, how to style your flannel seven ways. It's like, no, you put the flannel on.
James Harris
Noah, how long have you been there? Get on it. Get on it, bro.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah, they got the, they got a Gen X editor in chief now, bro.
James Harris
He's trying to. He's trying to turn the cruise ship, bro.
Lawrence Schlossman
But certainly seeing a lot of flannels, even driven by like, almost. I mean, this. I, I don't know if you could. It's Almost like grunge meets 70s in the form of, like, second layer grunge meets kind of like corpo, you know, traditional menswear with MF pen and our legacies. Give me the blood knot. Anyway, just want to say that.
James Harris
Yeah. And then here's a thought. Buy clothes you love and just wear them into the ground and then they, like, look right what you're describing as, you know. Yeah.
Lawrence Schlossman
Okay. The. This is a gift These are Bottega. These are Bottega. The putt big, big green puffer is Stone Island. The panties are Hanes boxers. I'm sipping on. I had 16 ounces of mud from Vita Coffee shop here in the Lower east side and sipping on a. What is this? Clean canteen of lower sides finest.
James Harris
We haven't really talked about this, but you have renounced dp. Yeah, it's over.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah, I read a scary article on.
James Harris
Ultra processed foods and that would include like all. Not just sodas, but diet sodas specifically because of all the like, replacement whatever asp pertain that goes in.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yeah, just like if you can't pronounce the ingredients or if you like can't recreate them at home. And like, you probably. Maybe, I don't know. You don't know what it does to you.
James Harris
We have like the last vestige of that Jimmy era. There's like a DP that will presumably go undranking forever.
Lawrence Schlossman
I'll suck on that. Sweet, sweet black. Did you wait? At my lowest moment.
James Harris
It's actually very interesting because, like, as someone who's like, quit smoking and like, I'm going to be healthy. Do you remember your last dp? And was it like a. Was it a conscious. I know this is my last sweet, sweet nectar of the gods.
Lawrence Schlossman
No.
James Harris
Damn. That's how you know that it was like this thing that you didn't really need. Yeah. Because you're like, I don't even remember your last cigarette. Yeah, I. In Miami. I was looking at Miami a little.
Lawrence Schlossman
Welcome back to Miami, Lawrence. You brought back. You're looking tan. Right? You, you have kind of like a. A glow, like a sex pest vibe that one gets when they spend over three nights in Miami.
James Harris
Yeah, I got a little tan. I can't lie though. Yeah. You know, the UV index wasn't particularly busing, but, you know. Okay.
Lawrence Schlossman
What are you wearing?
James Harris
I am wearing. Beautiful tan, sex vibe, Crushable Loewe loafers. The socks are socks with three S's. The.
Lawrence Schlossman
Is it socks or socks?
James Harris
Socks.
Lawrence Schlossman
Yo, is that a trend? Three S's in a brand.
James Harris
We got Stein, we got socks. You need three to be a trend. Who else has. Well, 4s. That's got four.
Lawrence Schlossman
This is a sound.
James Harris
Yeah, yeah. A lot of letters, dude.
Lawrence Schlossman
Mad, mad words.
James Harris
And, oh, I saw a great Instagram story that was like, yo, anybody know the Alphabet that could tap in real quick? Just apropos of nothing, shout out to everyone who knows their ABCs, though you should know that by now. I don't know how Young. Our audience is. But when you learn the Alphabet, when you're pretty young. Yeah, we know our outfits. Not necessarily the Alphabet. The jeans that I mentioned are velvet jeans from Small Talk Studio.
Lawrence Schlossman
How does that work?
James Harris
What do you mean? Oh, just. It's a. The cut is like a five pocket flared style.
Lawrence Schlossman
Okay. Are they like rivets?
James Harris
No, no.
Lawrence Schlossman
Like a patch?
James Harris
No, but it is like a. It's like, you know, like a jean.
Lawrence Schlossman
Can you make jeans out of anything?
James Harris
Well, so when you, like, if not.
Lawrence Schlossman
All jeans are denim, but all denim are.
James Harris
What the fuck I think it's called. You call it a five pocket style because it's a coin pocket. Okay. There are two pockets in the front, obviously, and then the two in the back. So it's not like a trouser. It's more of like a jean to me. It's jeans to me.
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Podcast Summary: Throwing Fits - SUBSTACK PREVIEW Xyience
Episode Release Date: January 28, 2025
Hosts: Lawrence Schlossman (Checkerboard Chief) and James Harris (Long Sleeve Dong Skis)
Episode Title: SUBSTACK PREVIEW Xyience
The episode kicks off with Lawrence Schlossman welcoming listeners to the weekly run-down of "Throwing Fits." He introduces himself and co-host James Harris, setting the stage for a deep dive into their latest discussions.
Lawrence Schlossman [01:00]: "Throw gang. We are joined by the checkerboard chief, Lawrence Schlossman, myself, the long sleeve dong skis, James Harris. Welcome to the weekly running of the."
James humorously probes the meaning behind Lawrence's nickname, "Long Sleeve Dong Skis," to which Lawrence admits uncertainty, suggesting it might be a playful nod to slang terminology.
James Harris [01:08]: "What is a dong ski?"
Lawrence Schlossman [01:15]: "I don't know, bro. No long dongs, sleeves, sleaze skis, super bowl in the big sleazy."
The conversation shifts to Lawrence's anticipation of an upcoming trip, highlighting his preparation through breaking in hiking boots in advance. He discusses his footwear choices, including the "Blackbird spy plane oboes collab" from the summer on ice, emphasizing both functionality and style.
Lawrence Schlossman [01:46]: "I have a big trip coming up that we're going to get into where I had to break in some hiking boots because I'm doing like a pretty serious trek."
James expresses curiosity about the trip’s logistics, prompting Lawrence to briefly outline the destination and their packing strategies.
James Harris [02:35]: "When we tee up this trip, are we gonna talk today about, like, what's the weather like at this destination, how you're gonna pack?"
The hosts delve into the nuances of sneaker culture, discussing limited edition releases and the exclusivity surrounding certain brands. Lawrence shares an anecdote about a stylish individual questioning his shoes, reinforcing the uniqueness of his "newsletter twos."
Lawrence Schlossman [03:47]: "I have a, a big trip coming up... but I had to put on the fast track and bring them in."
They debate the categorization of footwear, differentiating between sneakers and hiking boots, and explore various brands and stores where these items can be found.
James Harris [03:26]: "Not an approach shoe sneaker or whatever. Right."
Lawrence presents his insights on emerging fashion trends, predicting a fusion of menswear and grunge influenced by brands like MF Pen and Blood Knot. He emphasizes the resurgence of flannel shirts and thermal layers melded with traditional menswear aesthetics.
Lawrence Schlossman [05:19]: "I'm a vibe sensor. I think that driven by specifically MF Pen and maybe secondarily our legach... we're gonna get this, like, interesting little, like, menswear slash grunge hybrid moment."
James correlates these trends with historical grunge movements, referencing iconic figures like Kurt Cobain, and discusses the modern interpretation of grunge in fashion.
James Harris [06:07]: "Or a little sca. But you're not wrong, right? Kurt Cobain always, like, had that iconic mohair cardigan or mohair adjacent cardigan, right?"
The discussion transitions to sustainable fashion practices, advocating for purchasing quality clothing and wearing them until they naturally wear out. This approach not only supports eco-friendly habits but also enhances the aesthetic appeal through wear and tear.
James Harris [08:52]: "Buy clothes you love and just wear them into the ground and then they, like, look right what you're describing as, you know."
Lawrence underscores the importance of durability and timelessness in fashion choices, highlighting specific brands and items that embody these values.
Lawrence Schlossman [09:01]: "These are Bottega. These are Bottega. The putt big, big green puffer is Stone Island."
Transitioning from fashion, the hosts touch upon personal lifestyle choices, specifically discussing the decision to renounce flavored beverages (DP) and the broader implications of consuming ultra-processed foods. They emphasize the importance of being mindful about dietary intake and its effects on health.
Lawrence Schlossman [09:27]: "I read a scary article on ultra processed foods and that would include like all. Not just sodas, but diet sodas specifically because of all the like, replacement whatever asp pertain that goes in."
James shares his personal journey towards quitting smoking, relating it to making conscious health decisions and reflecting on the nature of his last indulgence.
James Harris [09:53]: "It's actually very interesting because, like, as someone who's like, quit smoking and like, I'm going to be healthy."
Lawrence and James continue their exploration of personal style, focusing on accessories like loafers and unique sock brands. They discuss the significance of branding and the subtle statements made through clothing choices, such as opting for "Crushable Loewe loafers" and "socks with three S's."
James Harris [10:43]: "I am wearing. Beautiful tan, sex vibe, Crushable Loewe loafers. The socks are socks with three S's."
They also delve into the intricacies of denim styles, debating terminology and design features that distinguish jeans from other types of pants.
James Harris [11:36]: "How does that work?"
Lawrence Schlossman [11:37]: "It's a. It's like, you know, like a jean."
As the episode progresses towards its conclusion, the hosts reflect on the evolving landscape of fashion and personal expression. They reiterate their commitment to exploring and predicting trends, all while maintaining an authentic and relatable discourse.
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Insights and Conclusions:
In this episode of "Throwing Fits," hosts Lawrence Schlossman and James Harris delve deep into the intersection of fashion, lifestyle, and personal choices. They explore the nuances of footwear culture, predict emerging fashion trends blending menswear with grunge influences, and advocate for sustainable fashion practices. Their candid discussions shed light on the importance of authenticity in personal style and the broader implications of lifestyle decisions on health and well-being. Through humor and insightful dialogue, they offer listeners a comprehensive look into navigating and understanding contemporary male zeitgeist.
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