The Rachel Sennott Interview with Throwing Fits

Summary

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Throwing Fits: The Rachel Sennott Interview

Podcast: Throwing Fits
Date: November 10, 2025
Guest: Rachel Sennott
Main Theme: Navigating the rise, creation, and context of HBO's I Love LA — creator/star Rachel Sennott discusses fame, the influencer economy, LA vs. New York, creative control, It Girl status, internet legacy, and the hilarities/trappings of “making it” today.

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Episode Overview

This episode features a candid and chaotic conversation with comedian, writer, and actress Rachel Sennott, celebrating the HBO premiere of her show I Love LA. The hosts dive deep into the process of creating and living the show, dissect the subtle art of being an "It Girl," and examine the absurdities of LA life, social media, “clout-chasing,” and internet culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. Getting Ready for the Pod: Schedules, Glam, and NYC Return

[00:30–05:09]

• Rachel describes her hectic day in NYC, bouncing between Times Square and Brooklyn.
  • "I'm not on rapper time, diva time... Something happened with the schedule today where for some reason we've gone to Times Square, then almost to Brooklyn, then back to Times Square, and now we're here." (Rachel, 01:34)
• She's pregaming Fallon with leftover glam for the podcast.
• Fit check: She shouts out her dress (details lost in memory), sips various top-tier waters.
• Reflects on her ritual when back in NYC: "First thing I do is hang out with my little sister... we had breakfast at 9 Orchard and went on a walk." (Rachel, 04:20)

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2. New York vs. LA: Culture, Personality & Driving

[05:10–09:09]

• Rachel on how NYC unlocks her "evil" or mischievous side.
  • "I feel more evil... like I should do something bad." (Rachel, 05:01)
• Early LA struggles: depression, sitcoms during Covid, and fears of being a “Young Sheldon” who brings COVID to set.
  • "They told me that Young Sheldon from Young Sheldon got everyone COVID, and they were like, don't be Young Sheldon." (Rachel, 06:35)
• The moment LA became magical—her first night drive in the hills during the pandemic.
• On LA driving culture:
  • "In LA, you actually just need to drive into traffic and, like, honk your horn and be like, I'm turning, I'm turning, I'm turning!" (Rachel, 08:03)

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3. Groundedness, Clout, and Press Tours

[09:10–12:04]

• Has she become a “jaded LA piece of shit”? Rachel says she gets diva moments but stays grounded via friends and family.
  • "My friends there, and, like, my family definitely keeps me grounded. They love to dunk on me. They humble me nonstop." (Rachel, 10:03)
• Press tour pressures: compares launching a show while still editing it to "giving birth" and being asked for photos the same moment.
  • "I sort of feel like I just gave birth. There's blood and poop on the table and everyone's like, let's take a photo." (Rachel, 11:25)

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4. Cast Surprises & Behind the Scenes of I Love LA

[12:05–19:02]

• Rachel shouts out cast members Josh and Leighton for surprising depth and humor, and True Whitaker for unique comedic timing.
  • "Josh... shows this, like, sweetness and depth... Leighton... she would make me break during scenes all the time." (Rachel, 12:07)
• Working with her best friend Jordan Firstman—navigating professional/personal boundaries.
  • "I never wanted to say to Jordan, this role is written for you... I've been an actor before where someone's come up to me and said, I wrote this for you...and then a month later they're like, we have to cast a famous person." (Rachel, 15:48)
• Rachel directed the show’s finale, finding joy in letting her actors shine and wrangling the chaotic energy of her cast/friends.

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5. Clout Chasing, the Influencer Economy & Spiritual LA

[19:03–24:52]

• Dissects LA/NY “who are you?” culture, fake networking, and why she’s not vindictive about industry social climbing.
  • "I really don't like when people in front of you in real time change how they're talking to you when they find out if you matter or not." (Rachel, 20:12)
• Becoming a bit “woo woo” (LA style): During a breakup, she saw psychics, tarot readers, and astrologers every week—too many, in retrospect.
  • "You shouldn't go to multiple psychics and astrologers and tarot readers all within the span of a month because it's all conflicting advice." (Rachel, 22:17)
• Pulling show moments from real life? Many ideas came from writers’ room stories, but direct one-to-ones are disguised.

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6. TV Influences: Girls, Entourage, and the "It Girl" Cycle

[24:53–29:57]

• Rachel's TV inspirations: Girls, Sex and the City, Insecure, but Entourage was a key model—wanted "Entourage for internet It girls."
  • "I sort of wanted to do Entourage for Internet It Girls because...I started my career on the Internet...that's their job." (Rachel, 28:13)
• Humorous digression: she's oddly attracted to Turtle from Entourage.
• Discusses the ephemeral nature of “It Girl” status and evolving out of the label:
  • "The term It Girl means you're only an It Girl for like 15 minutes...At one point you’re not going to be the girl anymore." (Rachel, 40:58)
• How online criticism of her “It Girl era” inspired facets of the I Love LA character Tallulah.

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7. Portraying the Internet, Avoiding Being Dated

[31:15–34:22]

• On making "life online" true to experience and not clunky or instantly outdated on TV:
  • "I want the internet to feel like it does to us in real life, which is—it informs our lives, but we're never explaining the internet to each other." (Rachel, 31:41)
• They avoid referencing real internet trends, instead inventing scenarios unique to the show.
• Borrowed an Entourage trick: rarely show characters actually making content, focusing instead on effects and reactions.

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8. Dealing with Fame & Feedback

[34:23–41:33]

• Hosts joke about "It Girl" status and Rachel’s age, to which she shrugs off the title.
• Rachel describes the pressure of public development announcements and tuning out internet obsessives while writing.
  • "I felt excited and flattered, but I also felt pressure...I don't want to let people down.” (Rachel, 36:30)
• She shares her reaction to a podcast episode dissecting her “It Girl” rise and “fall”—the cycle is real, the emotions sometimes meta-inspiring.

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9. Meta "Bagel Face" Allegations & Family Cameos

[41:34–50:56]

• Skirts around spoilers but says the show does address “bagel face” allegations in a funny, meta way.
• Guilt? Catholic but not over success, more over random everyday things.
• Her parents actually voice her on-screen parents—"My dad plays my dad and my mom plays my mom on the show over the phone." (Rachel, 50:21)

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10. Cast Parties, Favorite Co-workers, and Season 2 Teases

[51:08–53:54]

• Jordan Firstman is her #1 party homie, thanks to years of rhythm: "We're so locked in."
• Non-Jordan favorites: True and Odessa, especially on their Savannah girls trip.
• Dream for season two: bring more friends and cameos into the “party.”

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11. Creative Process, Boundaries, and Online Habits

[53:55–48:52]

• Relationship between protagonist/manager mirrors two sides of Rachel; not about industry, but about life online.
• On boundaries: none—she obsesses if she takes time off.
• Letting her sisters screen social media feedback; tries to avoid ego spiral of reading comments.
  • "I think it can make you a little narcissistic because it’s...you're only reading stuff about yourself." (Rachel, 47:43)

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12. Shopping, Dumb Purchases & Constructive Criticism

[56:58–60:24]

• What does she splurge on? Shoes (and recently, a tangle of Halloween costumes).
• Encourages the hosts to make more TikToks: "You guys are really cute together... I want a little lip sync of you guys talking to each other." (Rachel, 59:52)

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13. Closing Thoughts & What to Watch

[60:25–End]

• Rachel wants I Love LA to bring people together: "Do fun little watch parties...that would make me so happy." (Rachel, 61:04)
• Last question: Who did more for LA, Rachel Sennott or the Dodgers? "Obviously the LA Dodgers. But I threw the first pitch, so I won the World Series." (Rachel, 61:51)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I sort of feel like I just gave birth. There's blood and poop on the table and everyone's like, let's take a photo.” – Rachel, on press timing [11:25]
• “They told me that Young Sheldon from Young Sheldon got everyone COVID, and they were like, don’t be Young Sheldon.” [06:35]
• “I think you guys should do more TikToks. You guys are really cute together.” – Rachel gives the hosts advice [59:52]
• “The term It Girl means you’re only an It Girl for like 15 minutes... By essence of that, at one point you’re not going to be the girl anymore.” [40:58]
• “When I'm with my crew... I, like, truly feel invincible. If you're friends with me, I must be okay.” [29:12]

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Episode Tone/Style

• Chaotic, self-aware, and extremely candid—veering from earnest to absurd with ease.
• Hosts alternate between hype-man energy, inside jokes, and genuine curiosity, maintaining a casual, banter-heavy atmosphere.
• Rachel is witty, occasionally self-deprecating, and reflects on both the personal and sociocultural throughlines of her career with humor.

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Summary For New Listeners

This episode is essential if you’re curious about:

• How a viral internet “It Girl” transitions to showrunner and TV star;
• The emotional high-wire act of staring down sudden success;
• The mechanics and absurdities of digital-era fame (and criticism);
• LA/NY dichotomies, creative authenticity, and the highs/lows of collaboration.

With laughter, transparency, and a heady dose of internet (and industry) wisdom, Rachel Sennott lets you in on how I Love LA was made—and what it takes (spiritually, psychically, sometimes glamorously) to survive in the culture of now.

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Transcript

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[Host 1]

Our guest this week wrote stars in and just dropped what many throwing fits co hosts are calling the funniest TV show of the year. This queen play her own screenplay and she actually accomplished the impossible. She made LA look kind of charming. Just know the name is pronounced Senate because she puts the legit slaying legislative and keeps it Congress. The city of Angels, his favorite goddess is taking time off from the silver screen and the small screen to slum it with some podcasters because HBO blew the marketing budget on courage bagels 26 for bagels. Fucking criminal.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Here to chat, compromising herself for clout. The comparisons to girls and addressing the bagel face. Allegations of bagel talk. The creator, producer, writer, director and star of I love la, Rachel Senate. Rachel, how are you?

[Rachel Senate]

I am fabulous. That was so wonderful.

[Host 1]

Thanks for coming on.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm so excited to be here. We're saying long time coming. Yeah. You know, we've been. We've been sort of mutuals, vibes, Internet friends.

[Host 2]

Not a big deal.

[Rachel Senate]

Internet friends for years, but now it's finally happening.

[Host 1]

Big day when we got the fallback. Long time coming. Yes, 45 minutes late, but better late than never.

[Host 2]

You're on rapper time, diva time.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm not.

[Host 2]

You're committing voter fraud, though.

[Rachel Senate]

I just want to say. Yeah, something happened with the schedule today where for some reason we've gone to Times Square, then, then almost to Brooklyn, then back to Times Square, and now we're here.

[Host 1]

Is your driver from L. A?

[Rachel Senate]

Why, no, it was just the way the schedule landed. In a beautiful way.

[Host 2]

Take the train. It's faster.

[Rachel Senate]

I know, but it's the. You know, we've got, we've got, we've got trunks of glam.

[Host 1]

You've got HBO budget.

[Rachel Senate]

We got. So we got to take the car.

[Host 2]

You're the second guest ever to do glam.

[Host 1]

We started.

[Rachel Senate]

I want to say also. Who is the other guest?

[Host 2]

First of all, FK Twigs.

[Rachel Senate]

Fab. I am doing glam. Not just for the podcast. Okay, so you guys are getting like sort of like leftover glam or. Or pre glam.

[Host 1]

How many times you got to hit glam?

[Rachel Senate]

Like you got. You got glam from you. You guys have the Jimmy Fallon glam. Yeah, I'm pregaming Fallon with this. Thank you. I'm warming up.

[Host 1]

Want us to laugh harder at your jokes?

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, please. Ye. Good. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Tussle.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes, totally.

[Host 2]

Real, real quick. So we talked about the glam.

[Host 1]

Let's do.

[Host 2]

What did you wear to pod? Let's do a fit check real quick. What do we got?

[Rachel Senate]

Fit check real quick. I actually. I'm blacking out and I can't remember the name of the dress. But it's awesome. It's a small designer and I should know the name and I will come back and find it. And then we'll tag them.

[Host 1]

Yes, You. And you're sipping on some water, both still and sparkling.

[Rachel Senate]

And a topo. Yeah.

[Host 2]

What's that?

[Rachel Senate]

Small waters. Well, this, of course, is from the car. Car empire. Oh, boom.

[Host 1]

Except, wait, is that the car company?

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Great water. Terrible driving.

[Rachel Senate]

Water.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

We don't know the water. Yeah.

[Host 1]

But they drove me to Times Square.

[Rachel Senate]

No, but they had to.

[Host 1]

Oh, is the scheduling.

[Rachel Senate]

Scheduling, scheduling. The scheduling of where stuff landed was that we had to go to Times Square, then to Brooklyn, then back to sort of midtown. Now here.

[Host 2]

Yes. We made the village.

[Rachel Senate]

It takes a village. I'm sorry for being.

[Host 2]

No, it's cool. We're going to talk shit behind your back later. It's not worth it.

[Host 1]

Listen, we really are. We really do think the show fucking rocks.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Congrats.

[Host 1]

But generally saying that we got all the screeners. We crushed them in.

[Rachel Senate]

They've seen all.

[Host 1]

Two days.

[Rachel Senate]

Two days.

[Host 2]

I did two sittings only because I was waiting for seven and eight to hit the hub to hit a.

[Rachel Senate]

Totally. And you guys have to log in through pick.

[Host 1]

It's insane.

[Rachel Senate]

The hardest website.

[Host 2]

So annoying ever.

[Host 1]

It was like three FA authentication.

[Rachel Senate]

Crazy. It's. It's so. It's like every single time I have to. I have to log on to that website every day. I need to, like, do a photo of my passport, my fingerprint.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

Crazy.

[Host 2]

It's slack for divas. It's in Hollywood.

[Rachel Senate]

It's like for divas, it's easier to commit.

[Host 1]

Voter for abroad. Which I did today earlier. But you're back in New York.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Welcome.

[Host 1]

The show is live. What's the first thing you do when you're back in New York City?

[Rachel Senate]

Usually first thing I do is I hang out with my little sister because she lives Here. So she. I like, got in late next morning, she came to my hotel, we had breakfast and we went on a walk.

[Host 1]

Where'd you get breakfast?

[Rachel Senate]

At the Hotel 9 Orchard. Oh, delicious breakfast.

[Host 1]

Is that the hotel that maybe. Never mind. No spoilers. What do you miss the most about New York?

[Rachel Senate]

What do I miss the most about New York? I feel like New York sort of like unlocks this part of me that is like, bad that I like, but I'm scared of.

[Host 2]

Naughty, naughty, bad.

[Rachel Senate]

Naughty, naughty. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like, what does that mean? You're out?

[Rachel Senate]

Just like whenever I'm here, I'm like, I should do something.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

Like bad.

[Host 1]

I don't have to drive home.

[Rachel Senate]

Like, yeah. I don't know, I just. I feel more. I like evil. I feel more evil.

[Host 2]

What happens in New York stays in New York.

[Rachel Senate]

Totally. The other thing too is that like, because I don't live here anymore. Like, it's like, it's different when you're living here and you're like going to get your groceries, you're cooking in your house, you're like hot in your apartment, you're like doing. Walking around. It's like when I'm here now, it's like I'm like, like I'm here. I'm in glam. Every single day, every night, I'm like, I want to get up to trouble. I want to do something crazy. Like, you know what I mean? Because I'm like, already in. I already have extensions in. Let's go.

[Host 2]

Why waste them?

[Rachel Senate]

Why waste them? Come on.

[Host 1]

You're untethered. Unte responsibilities, whatever.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

What? Well, we know you had a tough time adjusting to life out west when you first moved out.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes.

[Host 1]

Do you know, can you pinpoint a moment when you're first charmed by la?

[Rachel Senate]

Totally. I think I would say so. When I first moved to la, I was there for a sitcom and they put me up in North Hollywood and I like could. It was like a five minute drive to work, which was still terrifying for me. And I would like, it was Covid. So I'd like drive to my sitcom. We would like perform it with shields and masks on. It was like I was spitting into. It was before they even came up with the good Covid tests. Okay, so it's like before the nose swab, I'm spitting into a bucket. They're like mixing it with a solution. Whatever. They. Everyone was like, so scared. The COVID officer was so scared, was like, if any of you. He was like, we're gonna lose millions of dollars. They told me that Young Sheldon from Young Sheldon got everyone Covid, and they were like, don't be Young Sheldon.

[Host 2]

Wow.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. So I was so afraid to become Young Sheldon and give everyone Covid on the show. So I didn't see a. And I was really depressed, and so that was hard. And then I remember, like, I started dating my ex boyfriend, and he took me on, like, a drive around the city, and it was like a night drive, and it was just like. It was. There was no. And it was around the holidays too, so we saw all these lights and whatever, and there was, like, no traffic because it was Covid. And I was just like, wait a sec. Like, my first drive up into the hills and looking down, and I hadn't gone anywhere or seen anything because I was afraid to drive, afraid to get covered, afraid to go anywhere. So I just.

[Host 2]

Sheldon.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes. I was afraid to be Young Sheldon. So I was just, like, stuck in my, like, North Hollywood apartment. It was the first time I, like, saw the city, and I was like, God damn, it's beautiful.

[Host 1]

Shabby.

[Rachel Senate]

Not too shabby over here.

[Host 2]

I'm gonna break up with this guy for sure. This is beautiful.

[Rachel Senate]

Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

Have you gotten better driving?

[Rachel Senate]

I. I think I'm better than before. This is the thing. In la, you have to be driver to be a good driver.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Rachel Senate]

And I'm, like, a rule follower. I drive good, but because of that, I drive bad. So I finally, like, there was like, a whole time where it was like, I could not. I couldn't make a left. Because you can't make a left unless you just do it on red.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

In la, like, you just have to wait until the light turns, and then you actually just need to drive into traffic and, like, honk your horn and be like, I'm turning. I'm turning. I'm turning, y'.

[Marketing Voice]

All.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm turning.

[Marketing Voice]

And.

[Rachel Senate]

And people just let you kind of. And so as soon as I unlocked that. That you have to just kind of do a left on red and honk and just drive, like, a little bit recklessly.

[Host 2]

Furiosa, dude.

[Rachel Senate]

If furiosa Mad Max vibes, then it got a little better. But I'm still. It's not. It's. It's hard to drive there.

[Host 1]

In a land of drivers, you have to be an to survive.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

Queen.

[Rachel Senate]

Totally.

[Host 2]

Yeah, totally.

[Rachel Senate]

Can you guys drive?

[Host 1]

I can drive. He can't drive.

[Host 2]

No, no, that's.

[Rachel Senate]

I.

[Host 2]

This is not worth getting into. But I have my driver's license. I choose not to drive for the safety of others.

[Host 1]

When we go to la. When we go to la, we always get a car given to, like, loaned to us that is like, the size of a military tank. Even harder.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

But as a driver, it is, like, one. I can, like, bully people around and, like, push people off the road, but also it's very, very terrifying.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

You're like, I don't know if I'm scared for me or everyone else or both. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Well, now it feels like you kind of have a loving, but maybe, like, a healthy distrust with the City of Angels and, like, the industry and shit. Have you ever felt yourself flying too close to the sun and getting sucked into the vortex of becoming, like, a true, jaded LA piece of shit?

[Rachel Senate]

No, I don't think so. I think I have, like. I mean, I have diva moments where I completely lose touch with reality and myself today, when I was 45 minutes late, but I think it's like, no, you can get into the, like, little pockets of time where you're, like. Like. Like, I think doing press, sometimes you go there because you're, like, in glam every day, and you're looking at your phone and you're like, the thing that matters is my blowout right now. And then you're like, okay, I need to chill. And, like.

[Host 2]

And then you're getting your dick sucked.

[Ad Voice]

And then you.

[Rachel Senate]

Then you have to. No, you guys are keeping me grounded. You. You'll yell to me for being late. Are you kidding me? Yeah, you're keeping me grounded.

[Host 1]

That's. That's less work for us to do.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, good. Hey, true. But I think. I think for the most part, I feel like I. My friends there, and, like, my family definitely keeps me grounded. They love to dunk on.

[Host 2]

They humble you?

[Rachel Senate]

They humble me nonstop.

[Host 2]

That's tight. Yeah, you need that.

[Rachel Senate]

Need that.

[Host 1]

What do you, like. Do you like doing the press junket of the show? Because you do so much, like, leading up to the show, you do the show and then there's so much to do.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like, the job's not done at all.

[Rachel Senate]

Well, what's so funny is this is the first time I've been for bottoms, sort of. It was like this, but I wasn't in the edit every day for bottoms, and I didn't direct bottoms, but I, like, I would pop in and out of the edit, whatever. But it was. Emma Seligman was, like, locked in for the whole time. This is my first time where I was like, I've been locked in on this for a long time. And we're still finishing the Edit.

[Host 1]

Oh, really?

[Rachel Senate]

Like, it's like, we're still finishing, like, color scores.

[Host 2]

The disclaimers on the screeners. Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes. And it's like, V coming in.

[Host 2]

You're like, coming soon.

[Rachel Senate]

Why doesn't this make sense? It's like, well, we haven't finished editing it.

[Host 1]

Love green screening, shoulder hair, literally.

[Rachel Senate]

And so I'm here doing press and then I'm getting emails being like, do you approve of this? You have 3 minutes to watch it. And I'm like, in the car. I'm like, wait, what?

[Host 2]

What?

[Rachel Senate]

And so that I think, like, that is has been interesting to, like, switch into talking about. I sort of feel like I just gave birth. There's like, blood and poop on the table and everyone's like, let's take a photo that I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not ready yet.

[Host 1]

You got to make it the right shade of brown.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. But I. I feel like. I do feel like the press tour, especially when all the cast is together, is so fun, and I feel like we've gotten really nice moments to celebrate and, like, I feel lots of love and support from, like, my friends and stuff, and that's been really nice.

[Host 1]

Who in the cast surprise you with their acting chops?

[Rachel Senate]

Oh, I mean, I kind of knew everyone was amazing because I casted them. So I will say I think I want to give. I'm gonna just give, like, a little shout outs to everyone. I think Josh and Layton, to me, showed I was already fans of their work. I think they both show, like, totally different sides in the show. Like, Josh is so funny. I think he shows this, like, sweetness and depth and like, he really. He blows me away.

[Host 1]

You know, we were talking about favorite moments in the show. I think he had one of my favorite moments where he's just like, I hate that. I know what that is.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, I know.

[Host 1]

And I kind of felt that too.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

We're like.

[Rachel Senate]

Which is like, it's like when. If you truly love your girlfriend, you learn about things that you go, God damn it. Why do I know about this?

[Host 2]

Every housewife.

[Rachel Senate]

Because you love her.

[Host 2]

Because you love the drama.

[Rachel Senate]

Because you love her.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

So you have to know that's what love's about. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Sacrifices.

[Rachel Senate]

Totally. I think he's incredible. Late in, I've been obsessed with, like, since I loved Gossip Girl, but I think she's so funny. Like, every, like, weird little, like, face she makes her coughing. Like, I'm like, she would make me break during scenes all the time.

[Host 2]

She killed it.

[Rachel Senate]

Killed it.

[Host 2]

Surprised. Like, I was surprised at the.

[Rachel Senate]

The.

[Host 2]

Because it's a new kind of role for her.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So she was kind of on Gossip Girl, so there is that kind of.

[Rachel Senate]

Connective tissue, but there's. It's a little bit, like, she's a little more merp in this. Like, she's kind of merp.

[Host 1]

It's like, a cringe. Millennial.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes. But also, she also. It's like, she plays that balance really well between, like, intimidating and, like, murpy. Funny.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Rachel Senate]

Because it's like, she's not, like, a total joke. If she's a total joke, then it's like, why is Maya so intimidated by her? You know what I mean? Did you know?

[Host 1]

Did you know True Whitaker was that hilarious before working with her?

[Rachel Senate]

I. So true is a genius. Love her. I basically. We did a. A callback with her on Zoom, and she just, like, talked up top before we went into the sides, and she was talking, like, so fast, and she was like, I manifested this. I slept with crystals under my pillow last night. And we were like, that's a lot.

[Host 2]

You're hired.

[Rachel Senate]

You're hired. And I think, like, the joy of her was, like, after the pilot, she came into the writers room, she talked to everyone, and we got to really, like, write to her voice because I think she has a really unique comedic rhythm and timing. And she does that thing that, like, when you have a line and you're like, okay, this is how someone would deliver this, and she delivers it, like, totally different and way funnier and better. She has so many lines that I, like, like, say to myself. You know what I mean? Like, I want to get into something strange when she says that in the finale. Like, I just. I love. I love her. Like, comedic timing killed it.

[Host 1]

Were you scared at all to mix work and pleasure and cast your bestie? Jordan Firstman, Friend of the show, friend.

[Rachel Senate]

Of the show, friend of the show, friend of my life. I wasn't scared at all. I will say. Okay, so I wrote the character with Jordan in mind, but I wasn't allowed to just give out roles. I had to. Like, there was a process, you know?

[Host 1]

Right.

[Rachel Senate]

And I never wanted to say to Jordan, this role is written for you, or, like, I want you to be this role. Because I was like, I've been an actor before where someone's come up to me and been like, I wrote this for you. I want this. I want you to do. I do a meeting. I read the script. I love it. I'm like, I'm in.

[Host 2]

Right?

[Rachel Senate]

And then, like, Like, a month later, they're like. So the studio says we have to cast an actual famous person.

[Host 2]

We got Plague live.

[Rachel Senate]

We got. Yeah. Thank you so much. We. I love you, but it's not you. And that can be, like, really devastating.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

And so anyways, I was like, I want it to be Jordan, but I can't. Like, I can't say that.

[Host 1]

You got to manage the besties expectations.

[Rachel Senate]

I gotta manage. Manage the besties expectations. So Jordan, the whole time was, like, trying to get it out of me. As you know, he was. He kept being like. And so, like, who's ready for the part? Like, how's it going? Like, whatever. One time we went to dinner with me, him, and then Owen. Do you know Owen?

[Host 2]

Very talented.

[Rachel Senate]

And so Jordan, like, goes to the bathroom, and then while he's in the bathroom, tries to get Owen to get it out of me.

[Host 1]

Really?

[Rachel Senate]

And Owen goes. Owen goes like, okay, now Jordan's gone. Like, seriously, who are you going to cast in that role? And I was like, I just. I don't know. And I was like, like, these. They're trying to get. Get it out of me.

[Host 1]

Inspiring.

[Host 2]

Behind your back.

[Host 1]

The Purple Mafia was trying to.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, they were trying to get me. But Jordan, absolutely crushed. And everyone fell in love with him. And I think he also, like, I love him so much, and I think so many people know him for being funny and confident. I think he has this very, like, sexy, masculine energy. But also I think he's, like, deeply sensitive and vulnerable. And I really wanted to, in his character, sort of like, like, set up almost like this, like, heightened. Almost like false version of what maybe people, like, project onto him and then pull back and show this, like, vulnerability. Yeah.

[Host 1]

His arc is pretty.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Great.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And the scenes with Josh, too. Amazing.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Really, really powerful stuff.

[Rachel Senate]

Very emotional.

[Host 1]

Vulnerable.

[Rachel Senate]

Vulnerable, absolutely. That was. That was one of my favorite scenes for directing because I was like, I'm not acting in it, and I could just. And they were so locked in. It was like. It was such a fun day.

[Host 1]

How many episodes did you direct?

[Rachel Senate]

Correct. Just one.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Rachel Senate]

The finale.

[Host 1]

The finale. Okay.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Did you enjoy. Did you ever fight on set? Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

No. Like, if Jordan and I fight, it's like me being like, you need to stop right now. It's like that. That's because it goes.

[Host 1]

And does he. Does he take direct?

[Rachel Senate]

Yes, of course. And. Or if he's like, you're caring too much about this. And I'm like, okay. Like, it's. It's. I think, like, we are, like, siblings.

[Host 1]

You'Re helping each other out.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Like the day after the premiere, we. We had a full press junket. The day after the premiere, I was on running on one hours of sleep and hungover. And like, I was like, I'm completely exhausted. And they wanted us to film like a TikTok. Sounds like.

[Host 1]

Sounds like I love la.

[Rachel Senate]

It sounds like I love la. And they were like, come on, like, can we get the group together to do a tik tok? And Jordan was like in the corner, like, being silly. I was like, how do you have the energy for this? Whatever? And. And he kept like talking, talking, talking. And then I like, Jordan, do the TikTok. I was like. I was like, do the tick tock. Now I haven't sat down in silence for five minutes. We have to do the TikTok. And he was like, okay, okay. And I was like, thank you.

[Host 2]

You know when it gets serious as Jordan.

[Rachel Senate]

He knows. Yeah. He knows when you need to lock in. Yeah. Okay.

[Host 1]

What's his. Do you think his groupie situation is going to take off now? Because he's a. He's stealing every scene. Mr. Scene stealer.

[Rachel Senate]

Mr. Scene.

[Host 1]

Do you think his groupie situation is going to rock it up to the moon?

[Rachel Senate]

What do you mean groupie situation?

[Host 1]

I don't know. I feel like America's about to fall.

[Host 2]

In love with him. Yeah. The DM's going to be a war zone starting we T minus now.

[Rachel Senate]

We can only hope. We can only hope.

[Host 1]

Well, look, when was. When he was on. He was on the pod to promote his album Secrets.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes.

[Host 1]

To support the homie and support the streams. Do you have a deep, dark secret that you would like to get off your chest?

[Rachel Senate]

A deep, dark secret? Yeah. No, I don't know. I don't. I don't want to tell any of my secrets. I'll either tell you a fake secret that I am comfortable sharing with people and everyone's going to go, that's not a good secret. Or I'll tell a real secret and then I'll call you in 20 minutes.

[Host 2]

Be like that.

[Rachel Senate]

That is keep it real and not.

[Host 2]

Do it too deep and too dark. Right.

[Host 1]

For.

[Host 2]

For, for podcasting.

[Rachel Senate]

For podcasting.

[Host 1]

Let me ask you this. I think, like a big part of the show is, is, I don't know, examining, like the clout demons and clout chasers in la, but also just modern life. What's the most twisted you've seen someone do in your career just to get a crumb of clout?

[Rachel Senate]

I would say I Don't know if this is twisted, but I. I really don't like when people in front of you in real time change how they're talking to you and they find out who, if you matter or not. Or also, like, people who were one way. Like, I had it when I first moved to la. Like, people like, over and over being like, and who are you? Sorry. And what are. And who are you? And who are you? And then like one project comes out and they're like, my family, my family, my girl, my baby girl. And you're like, wait, I. The last 11 times you didn't remember me? But that's not just LA, that's New York too.

[Host 1]

That's kind of for the course, for.

[Rachel Senate]

Just like, I remember that of like going to open mics. I'm like, I've known you for three years and then you finally chose to.

[Host 2]

Keep asking your name even though you know they know.

[Host 1]

Did you ever. Was it ever. Did you ever call them out or were you just like, path lease resistance?

[Rachel Senate]

Hey, like, oh my God, by the way, if someone's fake to me, I'm like, I don't even care. I'm like, okay, if you're being nice, you're being nice.

[Host 1]

Don't hit the player, hit the game.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm not going to be like, like, you didn't remember me last time. Yeah, I'm thinking it, right. I'm writing it in my diary. Yeah, I'm clocking it.

[Host 2]

Right?

[Rachel Senate]

It's clocking to me, but I'm not gonna say anything.

[Host 2]

Are you vindictive?

[Rachel Senate]

No.

[Host 2]

No grudges?

[Rachel Senate]

Not really. I don't think so. I'm not super vindictive. I feel like I'm like, I can like jokingly have a grudge or whatever as a bit, but as a bit.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Rachel Senate]

But I'm not super vindictive. Grudgy. Like, I feel like, like, that's good for the soul. Good for the soul. I'm trying to release and be free.

[Host 2]

Fair.

[Host 1]

Has moving to LA turned you like, woo woo at all?

[Rachel Senate]

Yes.

[Host 1]

Like, what's, what's woo woo about you?

[Rachel Senate]

I think I. So last year I went through a breakup and I started like, I started going to a different. I was like seeing a psychic or a tarot reader or an astrologer every week. I actually, like, I actually had to, like, I looked at my bank account and I was like, stop.

[Host 2]

You can't afford.

[Rachel Senate]

You have to stop. The other thing is, you shouldn't go to multiple.

[Host 2]

Right?

[Rachel Senate]

Psychics and astrologers and tarot readers, all within the span of a month because it's all conflicting advice. I was like, wait, I don't. Everyone's telling me.

[Host 1]

You don't think they all get together and talk about their clients and like, yo, yo, keep it along.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. They kept telling me different things, and I got so confused and I was like, I was just desperate and feeling crazy.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

So I kept seeing a different one.

[Host 1]

Did anything come true?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm trying, by the way. It's like I forget everything all of them said.

[Host 2]

They made quite the impression. Rachel.

[Rachel Senate]

I know one psychic told me I had gone on one date with my now boyfriend, and she was like. She said the first initial of his name, and she was like, who is this letter? And I was like, that's a guy I've been on one date with. And she was like, like, he's gonna become your boyfriend.

[Host 2]

Look at that broken clock, you know?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Write twice a day.

[Rachel Senate]

There you go.

[Host 1]

Did you write a character that's a perverted music producer before you met current boyfriend? Who's the homie?

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, friend of the show who's on the pod. No, I had already met him, but the character is not him at all.

[Host 2]

Just had to check. We're doing our due diligence.

[Rachel Senate]

You know, we're journalists. Is. Is.

[Host 1]

Is there. Are there moments in the show that are pulled from real life where, like, maybe especially from, like the influencer economy, where people might not be hyper aware of how absurd it is that really, like, is there a moment where you really did pull it from your experience? Observations that might. People might not think is real, but is real?

[Rachel Senate]

I would say there's a lot of like. So when we got into the writers room, we all, like, told stories and stuff, and I think we use that to jump off of. But there's nothing like, like exact, exact. There's certain. There's like a couple super specific moments, but I don't want to say them because this comes out on Monday.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Rachel Senate]

But I would say, like, we tried to, like, you know, take inspiration from real life, but then apply it to the characters in the world and change stuff so that we weren't. It wasn't just like, like per. Like diary type of stuff.

[Host 2]

Gotta. You gotta also protect the guilty. If anyone who did, you gotta protect the guilty. Come on, guys. Hollywood. After all, number one rul.

[Rachel Senate]

Protect the guilt, protect the guilty. Yeah. No, I feel like if anything, it's like me rejecting myself by being like, I'm different than the characters, all of them. I'm not. I'm not like, any of that. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 1]

How do I do cocaine?

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. How does this work? How do this.

[Host 1]

What is this? Roll the bill. Yeah. How do the comparisons to Girls make you feel?

[Rachel Senate]

I mean, I love Girls. That's like. I remember I watched Girls for the first time. I was like. Like, in high school, I was looking at colleges, and I was visiting NYU with my dad, and we were, like, staying in a hotel room together, and he was like, you know, I've heard a lot about this show, Girls.

[Host 1]

Like, your dad put you on?

[Rachel Senate]

My dad. My dad put me on to Girls. Crazy feminist king. And he put me on. And we started watching, and it was the episode where Hannah like a doctor the whole time. Such a good episode.

[Host 1]

Oh, like in, like, the nice townhouse.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

And. And my dad was like, Patrick Wilson, right? Yep. My dad was like, whoa, Okay. I think you can watch this show on your own and enjoy. I was watching it, and I was like, oh, my God, I have to move to New York. And, like, whatever. And so I. And I mean, I watched it on Sunday nights with my roommates once I moved here. Like, such a special show to me. And, like, like, so is Sex and the City insecure? Like, all of those shows, like, have inspired me as they're formative. So I. I like. Of course, those were influences. Entourage was actually a really.

[Host 2]

Let's talk about it.

[Rachel Senate]

Big influence. That's really, really big influence for us. And ideally, what we. And also Atlanta. I want to shout that out too. What we ideally did is take inspirations and then come up with our own unique tone. Hopefully, you'll be the judge of that.

[Host 2]

You stuck the landing.

[Host 1]

We were getting. We were getting on. The next question is literally, why aren't more people comparing it to the Los Angeles TV show of all time, Entourage? Fellas, if you like Entourage, I love la.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, this, by the way, I'm doing this. So straight guys watch the show. If you're a straight guy. This is Entourage, and you're gonna love it. And I'm Turtle.

[Host 1]

Every Sunday night at 10:30, throw it on with your girlfriend. But be. Don't maybe, like, pretend, like, Like, I.

[Rachel Senate]

Guess we can watch.

[Host 2]

Isn't there, like.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Isn't there football on football? I'm fine, but trust us, you're gonna, like, like what you see. We guarantee it.

[Host 2]

You're a Turtle. Truly in your heart of hearts. That's who you.

[Rachel Senate]

No, I'm not a turtle, but I was. I.

[Host 2]

In real life.

[Rachel Senate]

What?

[Host 2]

In real life, who are you on Entourage?

[Rachel Senate]

Are you an E. I think I'm an E probably.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Rachel Senate]

And I think Maya's like, an E, but maybe with a little bit of an Ari Arc.

[Host 1]

A little Lloyd.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, Lloyd on it. Love Lloyd. I feel like. Oh, my God, though. I was. I did. When I watched the show, I was like, why am I so attracted to Turtle?

[Host 1]

Really?

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

He was on the pod. Yeah, he's the man.

[Host 2]

This was meant to be.

[Rachel Senate]

Meant to be.

[Marketing Voice]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

And then one time I told that to a guy on a date, and he became obsessed with me, like, for. He was like. He was like, you. I just. When you said you liked Turtle, I just. I was like, oh, God, what did I do?

[Host 2]

You opened up Pandora's box.

[Rachel Senate]

I opened Pandora's box. So I loved. I watched Entourage. I think, like, I really started watching it over Covid, and I was like, this is just such a funny show. It's really interesting because it's not representative of the times anymore.

[Host 1]

No, it is a period piece.

[Rachel Senate]

It is a period piece. But I really liked the sort of, like, aspirational aspect of it. To me, it's like, like, so funny. I don't know how much of the comedy that the things that I'm laughing at were initially intended as funny, but I find it funny. And to me, I sort of wanted to do Entourage for Internet it Girls because I feel like Hollywood with love. We love Hollywood. But I feel there's been a lot of shows about that, and I feel like I started my career on the Internet. So many people work, like, on the Internet, and that's like. Even if they do other things, that's, like, their job. So I was like, I want to see the Internet as an industry. So that was, like, sort of the inspo. And then also, like, I was like, when. When I'm with my friends, like, my girlfriends or, like, my crew of, like, friends that I've been friends with for years, we, like, came up in the industry together. I, like, truly feel invincible. I feel awesome. Like, I'm like, you guys are the coolest people ever. If you're friends with me, I must be okay.

[Host 2]

Borderline delusional.

[Rachel Senate]

Borderline delusional. But I feel like. I think the something that is an entourage that we tried to bring to here was, like, when you're with your friend group and you feel like you're on top of the world. But I was like. I was like, now who's running the Internet? The girls in the gays and you guys, well, sorry, I'm trying. I can't lose the straight guys and you guys, you still matter.

[Host 1]

You guys are killing it.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, you guys are still matters. Have to say that.

[Host 1]

Shout out the fellas.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, we can't, we can't keep excluding them. They're. They're threatening us.

[Host 1]

They're not.

[Rachel Senate]

Okay, guys, guys, guys. We love you. And yeah, so I think that was, that was a lot of the inspiration Throw gang.

[Host 2]

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[Host 1]

Well, so a lot of the show is about life online.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Online, offline, and the kind of like the board. The board boards in between.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And everything online moves so fast. Were you scared that the show might feel outdated by the time it aired? Were you guys like praying that like, type shit was gonna still be like.

[Rachel Senate]

Well, so this is what we did. Because that was a hundred percent a fear. And I think a lot of times in TV and movies the Internet is portrayed as like, really clunky.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

Or it's over. Explained what I really wanted to do.

[Host 1]

Hit post.

[Rachel Senate]

Literally quick post now. Oh, wow, you're going viral. The likes are really coming in. What are they saying? Like, or sometimes they reference stuff that's already happened on the Internet. You can't do that. You immediately date yourself. So I was like, I want the Internet to feel like it does to us in real life, which is it informs our lives, it changes our lives. We are all, we're all on it, a part of it, but we're never explaining the Internet to each other. Yes.

[Host 1]

So the very first shot is you're just scrolling your phone Scrolling on phone.

[Rachel Senate]

And I think, like, to me, I wanted, like, the Internet to act and respond the same way it does in real life, but for the characters in our world. So, like episode three, for example, like, we're not referencing anything, but that's something that would happen on the Internet. But because it's a fictional thing, it can't be dated.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Rachel Senate]

Because it's just the Internet responding to the world of the characters. And then another thing which we also took from Entourage, is in Entourage, you don't really see Vince act.

[Host 2]

Thank God.

[Rachel Senate]

Thank God you don't really see Vince act. And he. But you believe he's an actor. There's moments of it.

[Host 1]

I am queer.

[Rachel Senate]

The first, the three seconds of Aquaman before the power goes out. But I.

[Host 1]

That one scene in the shootout. Medellin.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, we have. We have snippets of it, but for. For me, I was like, that's what. How I want to handle Tallulah. And that's what makes Odessa such an amazing act. Because she walks into the room and you're not like, what kind of videos does she post?

[Host 2]

Right?

[Rachel Senate]

You're like, she's a Nick girl. Yeah, I believe her. She's a Nick girl.

[Host 2]

She is.

[Rachel Senate]

We don't have to explain every little thing. Like, there's hints of it in the pilot where we do all of our big setup of everything.

[Host 2]

Exposition.

[Rachel Senate]

The exposition, which, hey, we need it. Okay.

[Host 2]

Charge of the game.

[Rachel Senate]

It's got to be. Sorry. The rest of the episodes are fine. Okay. Just wait next week. Okay. But I. I think, like, we. We don't. We try not to show too much of Tallulah, like, making videos or content. Because if you do, you're going to immediately draw comparisons of a. Oh, she's a this type, she's a that type, she's a whatever. Or like, this type of video isn't even in anymore.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Rachel Senate]

So that's how we move through the Internet.

[Host 2]

You might be a genius, dude. This is a great way of approaching. Yeah.

[Host 1]

The best way to show the Internet.

[Rachel Senate]

Is not really show it to not really it. Because it's like you. You feel it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

One time you want to tell not show, I guess.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

With the Internet.

[Host 1]

And then the one time we do get maybe like really a behind the scenes look at how the Internet sausage is made. It's like just. It's a commentary. Just how absurd it is.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. Are you talking about four?

[Host 1]

Yes. Again, I don't know. Episode.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

One sitting just crushed.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Okay.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

You gossiping yeah, we're over here.

[Host 2]

What secrets.

[Host 1]

You're an IDK girl, right? Fair to say.

[Host 2]

Congrats, by the way.

[Rachel Senate]

Thanks so much.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

When did you know you're an IT girl? No, I'm kidding. What. What is the least it girl thing about you?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

Least a girl thing about me? Maybe I've been around for too long. I feel like. I don't know.

[Host 1]

I'm over 25.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm 30. Yeah, no, I think. I think, like, to be honest, I feel like. I feel like I. I started in New York. I was like, online Internet girl, Twitter girl. And I Actually, around the time that I was. Sorry, Topo Chico coming. Just a little burp. Okay. So around the time that I was writing the pilot.

[Host 1]

When was that?

[Rachel Senate]

That would be. I can turn it right after the writers strike ended. Ended that year. And then the pilot got picked up at the top of the year. So.

[Host 1]

After the strike.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, no, literally. Because literally right after the strike ended is when I was, like, 8, because I signed or whatever the deal, the development deal. Because the way it works for HBO is it's like you get a development deal, so you get paid to write a pilot. Then if they like that, that gets picked up. Then you make that. You edit that, you turn it in.

[Host 2]

In.

[Rachel Senate]

Then if they. And then you. And you also do, like, a series sort of bible of where the series would go, then you turn that in. Then if they like that, the show gets just.

[Host 1]

Real quick, can I, like, were you surprised or what was your reaction to the Internet's reaction about, like, the Untitled Rachel Senate show? People were going fudgeing bonkers for just the fact that you had. You got something into development.

[Host 2]

They want to see you win.

[Rachel Senate]

I felt. I felt excited and flattered, but I also felt pressure. Like, I was like, I don't want to, like, let people down. I think, like, especially because it's odd sort of announcing something when it's still in development and it's going through a process. Like, what was so nice about Bottoms was Em. And I wrote it when we were still in school, and we didn't have any of that outward pressure. So we were just writing it in this bubble of being like, what's gonna make us laugh? What's gonna make IO laugh? Like, that was what.

[Host 2]

No expectations?

[Rachel Senate]

No, no, no. No expectations of, like, what. What are people gonna think? And so for this, I time sort of like, shut off my. I had to put the blinders on because I was like, if I go on Twitter and I read all the things of like, I hope it's a show set in here. And there was a while where people thought it was set in New York and then all these things and whatever.

[Host 1]

Told us it's about an alien.

[Rachel Senate]

About aliens. So I just felt like I. I just felt like pressure, but I. I felt like I. I wanted to. Wanted to give people something that they would really love and want to watch.

[Host 1]

It felt like as. As somebody on the outside looking in, it felt like a. Because as fans, we were like, oh, sick. But then it felt like a validation of like, oh, we are all rooting for Rachel and we all think that she's like, super talented. This is going to be fire. And you know, it was coincided with like Brad Summer and the whole like Charlie friend crew and everybody, and everybody's just doing their own thing. So it felt like, like a crazy reaction for Jess. Yeah. Like a pilot getting green lit.

[Rachel Senate]

I know. And then I was like, okay, now I have to go do it.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I gotta do.

[Host 2]

How do I do the job?

[Rachel Senate]

I know, but it. It's. It's. I forget I was where. What? I'm like, where were we three minutes ago? Well, I. There was a train of thought that I.

[Host 1]

The least It Girl thing about you. And then you burped a few times. So relatable and cool.

[Rachel Senate]

This is what I was gonna say. Is that so? All right. I was working on the pilot it and there's a podcast that I listen to that charts sort of like the. The rise and fall of It Girls and It Girl snark. I'm. I'm refreshing my app, my little podcast app, and I see she's done an episode about me. And I listened to it and it was sort of saying like my It Girl era was over. And it was really interesting. And I was listening and I was sort of like, okay, why was your making great points? I was like, totally. By the way, it's like if anyone criticizes me ever, I'm like, already thought of that. Actually, I have something to add.

[Host 1]

Is it that you graduated out of It Girl status? Actual contributor to society?

[Rachel Senate]

She was saying that just now. All I do is like, post hot photos and I'm. I'm missing my sauce or whatever. And I was boring. But it's okay. I. It's totally fine. I. I thought it was interesting because what I did feel is that, like, I felt like when I was on. On Twitter and doing stand up, I. I had this like, direct line to people where I could like, share thought, like jokes and thoughts and stories and whatever and then I felt like that cord sort of got severed.

[Host 2]

The relatability aspect, maybe?

[Rachel Senate]

No, just like being able to say stuff to people directly. Because when you're acting in a movie, like, it's not you. You know what I mean? And again, the show isn't me, but it's coming from me. And I felt like, like, anyways, I, I. When I listened to that, I was like, it's interesting. And it sort of gave me the idea of like the, the. Some of this isn't really in the. I think hopefully this is here in like undertones. But like, Tallulah is like an it girl, but she. It's like she's kind of like struggling. She's. She's broke, she doesn't have money. Like, it's all about outward appearances. She's like, I'm in trouble. Like, they're talking about, like, she' like girl. I'm having to sell stuff on Depop, whatever bills. And I think, like, I think like. I don't know the. How this ties into your original question, but to me it was interesting to see like an it girl. Like, basically the, the term it girl means you're only an it girl for like 15 minutes. Whatever. Like, it's. You're of the moment. You're now. And by essence of that, like, like, at one point you're not going to be the girl anymore. Someone else is temporary.

[Host 1]

Better write a pilot.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, you better write a fucking show.

[Host 2]

A TV show.

[Rachel Senate]

But I think that that was an interesting, like, concept to me. And I do feel like with women there's always like, people want to put an expiration date or turn on you or sort of be like, she's so fried right now. She's so done. And it's part of the cycle too. You go through something and then you morph and you change and you grow. Whatever.

[Host 1]

Girls can be chopped to.

[Rachel Senate]

Girls can be chopped. But I, I think like, anyways, that it was interesting to me and that sort of like, helped with some of the arc of the Tallulah character.

[Host 2]

The haters.

[Host 1]

So if they have haters. The haters. Really?

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. I wasn't even. I wasn't even mad. Like, I thought it was. I thought it was interesting. I just. It like, to me it was.

[Host 1]

It was because it's a brand new category in term of like.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

Of industry and profession.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

In this respects. Yeah. For sure.

[Host 1]

Now that you're a famous actor, writer, director, triple threat.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Do you think you would sunset the Icyl status like, intentionally or are the Perks just too delicious.

[Rachel Senate]

Subset Sunset.

[Host 1]

Shut it down. Like, you know what? I'm going to move past it girl. I.

[Host 2]

As long as they'll take me an it woman.

[Rachel Senate]

As long as they'll take me woman. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Did you get. Did you get yourself a gift now that the show is live?

[Host 2]

Yeah. An attaboy.

[Rachel Senate]

I got a tattoo.

[Host 1]

Oh, good.

[Rachel Senate]

I got. You guys are going to laugh because it's really nothing at all, but at the after party, there were a tattoo artist artists, and I never got a tattoo before.

[Host 1]

Is your first one.

[Rachel Senate]

This is my first one. And I was drunk enough to get it, but it's just too little.

[Host 2]

Okay. There's people listening that think you're Jewish, and they're like, now she can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery.

[Rachel Senate]

Okay, well, double sorry twice.

[Marketing Voice]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

How satisfying was it? No spoilers. To address the bagel face allegations on your own terms.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, I. So I can't give it away.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Rachel Senate]

But there's an episode. Did you. Are you talking about.

[Host 2]

Yes. Huh. Very meta. It seems like it was a meta.

[Host 1]

I was talking about that.

[Rachel Senate]

Oh, well, we kind of do it twice.

[Marketing Voice]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Oh, okay. I was thinking about the first thing that you mentioned.

[Rachel Senate]

I. We were just. We were just. I think. I can't talk about it without giving away the storyline, but.

[Host 1]

Do you.

[Host 2]

Satisfying. Do you.

[Rachel Senate]

But we. We. I think we did it in a fun, funny way. And it's a little meta.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Rachel Senate]

Little wink.

[Host 1]

But was it something you always wanted to, like, include in. In at some point in the show?

[Rachel Senate]

No, it was just. We were in the writer's room, like, joking about stuff, and then Max Sylvester, I don't know if you know him, he's an amazing writer. He's one of our eps. He pitched it and we were, like, crying, laughing.

[Host 2]

That's the one.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Are you experiencing any. As a Catholic, Italian American, are you experiencing any Catholic guilt about the success of the show and yourself?

[Host 2]

I don't deserve.

[Rachel Senate]

No, I have guilt about other things. Okay.

[Host 2]

There's a packing water here.

[Rachel Senate]

Oh, my God. I have guilt about so many other things, and I'm not gonna even tell you.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Rachel Senate]

But I'm guilty.

[Host 1]

Yeah, she's guilty. She's guilty. But you're protected. Now that you've made it in Hollywood, you're protected.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Congratulations, by the way, on the Illuminati induction.

[Host 1]

It's so sick.

[Rachel Senate]

Do we all see my humiliation ritual? It was crazy.

[Host 1]

Yeah, we did.

[Host 2]

It's going viral.

[Rachel Senate]

It's going viral.

[Host 1]

It's on. It's on. Reddit. It's on Rachel Senate.

[Marketing Voice]

Snark.

[Host 1]

Are you ever gonna rejoin Twitter? Or is it.

[Rachel Senate]

I don't know. I think it's maybe a wrap for now, but we'll see. I do have little sentences that I want to share with, by the way.

[Host 2]

X, the everything app. Show some respect.

[Host 1]

Like, you have, like, Twitter drafts or X drafts.

[Rachel Senate]

Just like my notes app. I have so many notes.

[Host 1]

You want to read some of them?

[Host 2]

Get one, please, Please.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm afraid it's not going to be, like, good enough.

[Host 2]

Say the best one.

[Rachel Senate]

I know, but they're all deep. Like, if I look at my notes app, most of it right now is. Is, like, really frantic. I just looked at my email. I got so scared.

[Host 2]

Oh, no.

[Host 1]

Is this color correct or not?

[Rachel Senate]

No, it's literally right now all my things are, like, to do season two ideas. Tik Tok idea. What should I have for dinner people for the guest list? Who should I see in New York? Like, this is all. This is all, like, kind of flop stuff, which is like, these are my. I haven't had thoughts.

[Host 2]

You haven't had a real thought in months.

[Host 1]

What's your.

[Rachel Senate]

Oh, my God. An apology. Okay, sorry.

[Host 1]

What's your screen time?

[Rachel Senate]

My screen time? Guess.

[Host 2]

Nine hours?

[Rachel Senate]

Five?

[Host 1]

That's pretty good. That's really.

[Host 2]

How is that possible? Yeah, because you're so busy.

[Rachel Senate]

Because I'm working.

[Host 1]

Is it mostly. What's your number one used app? Is it email? Is it text?

[Rachel Senate]

I think it's like, at this point, text is email. It's like. It's like they go to me on text to say, answer your email, and I'm like, please stop. I feel like my phone is my computer now. Where it's like, it used to be so fun and now it feels job.

[Host 2]

That's screen.

[Host 1]

Do you. Do you ever create boundaries?

[Rachel Senate]

What do you mean with like.

[Host 1]

You're like, hey, don't email me. It's the weekend. Or like, hey, I'm not. It's Hollywood, bro.

[Rachel Senate]

No, baby, no.

[Host 1]

That's what it takes.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Truly.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm not going to create a boundary ever. That's not my thing. I've not. I've never. And if I do, I'm going to take it back in three seconds. I'm going to go. I literally will be like this. Guys, I'm going away for the weekend. No one contact me. I leave. No one's emailed me for one hour. I'm like, reaching out to my entire team.

[Host 1]

Hey, is everything good?

[Rachel Senate]

Am I dropped? What's going on?

[Host 2]

What's going on?

[Rachel Senate]

You said not to talk to us. I'm like, I know, but I'm just checking in. Like, any good articles I should be reading anything. We should be developing thoughts.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Do you read. Do you read all the comments?

[Rachel Senate]

No.

[Host 1]

Okay. Smart.

[Rachel Senate]

Some, but not all. I would. I usually do. My baby sisters are who I love so much, are tapped in and they tell me exactly amount that I need to know.

[Host 1]

Oh, I love that.

[Rachel Senate]

So they'll be like, by the way, day.

[Host 2]

They screen it for if they're.

[Rachel Senate]

If they're hating on me, they'll tell me. They'll go, it's not good right now, but it's not so bad.

[Host 2]

It's not over.

[Rachel Senate]

It's not over yet. It's not over yet, but it's. You're getting a little for this, right? And I'll go, okay. Or they'll go, they're loving it. And I'll go, could I get some samples? Then they send me. Then they send me some good ones. You know what I mean?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

Some screenshots. Yes. I know it's really bad when they're like. When I'm like, how is it? And they're like, I just feel like it's. This is just one of those. And then they try to desperately searching for one thing and the. And the positive tweet is like zero. Like, zero views. And they're like, I guess she, like. I'm sure she, like, has a soul maybe. Like, you know, they're like, see? See? And I'm like, oh, good. Yeah. Feel good. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Wow.

[Host 1]

Have a soul.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm trying to. I. I try not to because then you can get sucked into it. And also, I think it can make you a little narcissistic because it's. You're only reading stuff about yourself.

[Host 2]

Confirmation bias. And.

[Rachel Senate]

And, yeah. And even if it's good or bad, it gets you in a cycle of like, me, me, me, me, me. So I try not to smart. Am I perfect? No. Have I broken my rules? Yes. But I try.

[Host 1]

Just start reading the comments about your castmates instead.

[Rachel Senate]

They're all fabulous.

[Host 2]

Oh, okay.

[Rachel Senate]

I'll say. I'm on castmate duty. I'm saving the fan cams of my castmates. Everyone individually.

[Host 2]

You're a good boss.

[Rachel Senate]

I'm like, Josh is not on Tik Tok enough to see the thirst edits of him. Let me. Let me download, save, send on over.

[Host 1]

He was pretty good on the. On the group Tik Toks.

[Rachel Senate]

He was thinking pretty accurately, but. But he gets. Jordan is Locking him in a room and going, do the tik tok. You can't leave until you do.

[Host 2]

Training him like it's a dojo.

[Rachel Senate]

Do you guys read the comments?

[Host 1]

Some. It's bad. He reads them more than I do and he'll be guilty. Yo, they're all saying this. I'm like, I saw the one comment that said that it's okay.

[Rachel Senate]

I know, I know. I do that too. Where I create a narrative. You take. I love to create a narrative. Right? You know what I said to create a narrative. It's the best. I call my dad crying. I'm like, they want me dead. They want me dead. He's like, who said that? Oh my God. Do you know who name searches me? My dad.

[Host 1]

Really?

[Rachel Senate]

My dad. And my dad actually doesn't know to not send me stuff. And he'll. He'll send me stuff. He goes, people are. Are feeling like you've really lost touch.

[Host 2]

Thanks, dad.

[Rachel Senate]

Why are you sending me this? He also. My dad. Dad like, he doesn't. He works in insurance, but he sends me like deadline articles. He's like thought, but I love my dad. So he's. He. Because he cares about his kids, he cares about the stuff they're involved in. But he'll send me like a deadline article and he'll be like, interesting merger happening. And I'm like, how do you know about this and not me?

[Host 2]

He's locked into the trades.

[Rachel Senate]

He's locked into the trail.

[Host 1]

Like, here's an idea you should develop.

[Rachel Senate]

Literally. Literally.

[Host 1]

Not getting any emails right now. Damn.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And he's doing that for free. Just cuz he loves you.

[Host 1]

But your dad was so tapped in with girls.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, he was.

[Host 1]

He's got the cultural divine.

[Host 2]

In another life, he could be at, you know, one of the big agencies or something. Who knows?

[Host 1]

Have you gotten any feedback from the family that maybe wasn't just like, oh my God, you're a special baby girl. It was amazing.

[Rachel Senate]

I might. So my parents and my baby sister came to the premiere.

[Host 1]

Did they watch the scene?

[Rachel Senate]

They did. They can handle it. They've seen Sugar Baby. They saw the idol.

[Host 2]

Sure.

[Rachel Senate]

It's over. It's. It's over.

[Host 1]

The idol. We talk about how the idol was the best bad show on HBO of all time.

[Rachel Senate]

It's got.

[Host 2]

We loved it.

[Rachel Senate]

I loved it too. I'm just a freak. I still. I still play that. I boss.

[Host 1]

Banger.

[Rachel Senate]

Banger. But I. Moses was on the pod.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

Oh my God. I love Moses.

[Host 1]

Love interest.

[Rachel Senate]

My lover. I know. They. They. My family. Is so supportive. Actually fun fact act. My dad plays my dad and my mom plays my mom on the show over the phone.

[Host 2]

Right? Okay. I was gonna say, right.

[Rachel Senate]

There's phone calls with both parents, and we were like, we need to find someone to do it, like, whatever. And that we were auditioning, like, voice actors. And then I was like, can I just have my parents?

[Host 1]

Oh, your mom is mad funny.

[Rachel Senate]

My mom crushes. Yes, she crushes.

[Host 1]

Shout out, Mrs. Senate.

[Host 2]

Yeah, that was Senate.

[Rachel Senate]

She crushed. And my dad.

[Host 2]

Talented family over here.

[Rachel Senate]

Talented family.

[Host 2]

Makes sense where you came from.

[Host 1]

Did they pull up to the rest party since they were, you know, they did actors chateau.

[Marketing Voice]

Did they.

[Host 1]

Oh, party. They get tattoos.

[Rachel Senate]

They did not get tattoos, but they had fun. It was great.

[Host 2]

That's beautiful.

[Host 1]

Who from the cast of I love LA is the most fun homie to party with?

[Host 2]

You have to pick one.

[Host 1]

Can only pick one.

[Rachel Senate]

I can only pick one. I'm gonna say Jordan just because we have years and years of practice. We're so locked in.

[Host 2]

He can to partying.

[Rachel Senate]

To partying together in a space. And also it's like we check each other. Like, one time we in an argument in the Gilson's parking lot after, like, a party where he was like. He was. He was just, like, gossiping too much at an industry party. And then we went to the Gelson's parking lot before we went. We parked at a Gelson's parking lot before walking to another party. And I was like, jordan, you can't say stuff like an industry event. And he was like, babe, you need to relax. And I was like, you need to wake up. And it was like a huge fight in a Galson's parking lot. And then we went to inside. But I feel like the best fights happen. Like, literally they're towing the car behind us. But, like, I just feel like. I just feel like we're so locked in. Right.

[Host 1]

What about. Okay, non Jordan cast bait who like, maybe you don't have the years and years of the rhythm and the flow and the. The Abbot Costello of partying.

[Rachel Senate]

O. I want to say it's a tie between True and Odessa because I've. We. We all had so much fun that night. And then me, True and Odessa all went to Savannah to. Oh, yeah. Together. Scad film festival that were you into?

[Host 1]

Oh, it was a film festival.

[Rachel Senate]

It was. Yeah. And it was. It was so fun. And it was like our first time doing press. Just the three girls.

[Host 2]

Girls trip.

[Rachel Senate]

Girls trip. And it was really fun. We had dinner and there was like a Piano in the room. And we were all playing piano and singing. Lana, it was fabulous. Us.

[Host 1]

When do we know if we're gonna get a season two?

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, I don't know when we're gonna know, but hopefully we know soon. But I don't know.

[Host 1]

How much higher will the budgets be for celebrity cameos a la Entourage?

[Rachel Senate]

A la Entourage? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

[Host 2]

Do you have a dream celeb cameo that you want to manifest?

[Rachel Senate]

I want to get all my friends on there. I just want, I feel like o hires, I just.

[Host 1]

Charlie need to go to acting school first or something. Is that.

[Rachel Senate]

No, she, I, I, I've already said I want her in the show. I, I, I feel like I just think what I, like, hope to do. Like, there's a reveal of a friend on there that we're saving as a little surprise, but, like, I. When she came on the show, I was like, this is so fun to. It feels like you're hosting a party.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

And you want your friends to come and have a great time and just get to, like, play and have fun and be silly and then, like, just pop in for a couple days and then I, I get to hang out with my friends. So that's kind of my plan.

[Host 2]

It's great strategy.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I think it was effective in this case.

[Host 1]

Was it ever awkward with or not awkward, but, like, you have a manager, right? I assume.

[Rachel Senate]

Yes.

[Host 1]

Were you ever, like, I don't know, you guys, like, was there ever a moment where something happened on the show where Maya, the manager and the town of the talent, and you guys were.

[Rachel Senate]

Like, yeah, no, I don't think so because I wasn't thinking about it in terms of, like, again, Hollywood. I which I hope comes across because I think some, I saw some people saying, like, it's about making it in Hollywood. I was like, it's about making it online.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

And they're in L. A.

[Host 2]

Actually, even more relevant.

[Rachel Senate]

It's more relevant, babe.

[Host 1]

It's not a dying industry.

[Rachel Senate]

I It's a new industry. It's fresh.

[Host 1]

It's here forever.

[Rachel Senate]

It's here forever. It's really healthy for everyone, but I think, like, it was more of anything. The relationship between Maya and Tallulah is a little bit, bit like the relationship between two halves of myself. Tallulah a little bit represented, like, me in my early twenties in New York and sort of like my messy, chaotic, free self. And Maya is like me when I first moved to la. And I feel like the more like, controlling negative parts Careerist parts of myself, and I feel I've hopefully grown, and I think they're both. Ultimately, my. And Tula are better together when they have that balance. They balance each other out. So that's more kind of what I.

[Host 1]

Was drawing from was the. I guess you call, like, an affectation that Odessa did with the tool character, which was like, ah. Was that from. Did that come from you? Was that.

[Rachel Senate]

Wait, what do you mean? Her screaming?

[Host 1]

Her just going, ah, yeah. All the time. But not in, like, a loud way. It was kind of just like a.

[Rachel Senate]

I feel like that that's. That was just a choice.

[Host 2]

Her choice.

[Rachel Senate]

Her.

[Host 2]

Childlike exuberance.

[Rachel Senate]

It's incredible.

[Host 2]

It's really funny.

[Host 1]

As we wrap up, because we got to get you over to Fallon soon. What is something about Rachel Senate that might surprise people?

[Host 2]

Give us something for the blog.

[Rachel Senate]

I know, I know.

[Host 1]

I had to give us something for the boys.

[Rachel Senate]

I. For the boy.

[Host 1]

No, sorry, I did not mean it.

[Rachel Senate]

Like, oh, what's something that the boys are gonna like? Let me think, let me think. Sorry.

[Host 2]

It's cool.

[Rachel Senate]

I just.

[Host 1]

Is your brain like, you talk about how you're doing the press while, like, wrapping up the show like this got to be almost more exhausting than making the show.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, it's really fun, but I am afraid of talking this much because I'm like. At this point, it's like someone's like, just say one silly thing about you and I'm, like, going to drop, like, the worst that I've ever. Yeah. Something that's, like, really bad for me to say because I've run out of, like, little anecdotes. Do you know what I mean?

[Host 2]

Yeah. You're going insane in real.

[Host 1]

I once ran over somebody. I didn't stop.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. I did a hit and run. That's.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I kindle Roy somebody.

[Host 2]

You would never guess.

[Rachel Senate]

I don't know. I feel like my. My vibe is kind of what I present is. Is sort of who I am, and that's like.

[Host 1]

That's.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Transparency. We love that.

[Host 1]

That's what people love about you, right?

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, I think it's pretty close to real. Maybe I'll circle back and think of something that people don't know.

[Host 1]

Spend your money on. Why don't we. Why don't we get real gauche for a second?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

What do I spend my money on?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

I would say I like shoes.

[Host 2]

Ooh. We all do on this show.

[Host 1]

You doing any shopping in New York?

[Rachel Senate]

I haven't had time yet, but I would love to. Although the first night I got here, I forgot it was cold. So then I went to Brandy Melville to get sweatpants, and then, like, little girls started screaming in there. And then now I have, like, seven. Well, there were two girls work. I have to actually post this. Two girls working at the Brandy Melville who are like, we want to take a picture with you, but we're not allowed to have our phones. And then they said, well, you take a picture of us with you and then post it.

[Host 1]

They just finesse.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, they finesse me.

[Host 2]

So finesse.

[Rachel Senate]

So I got to post a photo of me with the girls working at Brandy Melville.

[Host 1]

You do that when I crypto. The crypto townhouse torture chamber.

[Rachel Senate]

No.

[Host 1]

So there. So there was a. A townhouse in soho that run by these crypto bros that they would just, like, throw ragers, like, afters after to afters. And they would recruit ladies from the Brandy Melville store just around the corner.

[Host 2]

Ground.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

The feeding program.

[Host 1]

And the guy that was recruiting the girls was on the Bravo show Next Gen. Yeah.

[Host 2]

They kidnapped and tortured a guy. And this is definitely going to become.

[Rachel Senate]

A Wait, wait, wait. Connection.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that's a little get cast in this movie.

[Host 2]

They're definitely making a movie out of this.

[Rachel Senate]

Okay.

[Host 2]

Keep it on your radar.

[Rachel Senate]

My dad will send it to me.

[Host 1]

You spend money on shoes. What is a dumb purchase you made.

[Rachel Senate]

Recently a dumb purchase? I got stress. So when we were going to scout, we all decided we wanted to be Powerpuff Girls. But then at the last, like, for.

[Host 1]

Halloween or for Halloween.

[Rachel Senate]

But then it was like, we weren't sure which color Powerpuff Girl everyone was going to be. And everyone was like, am I green or am I blue? Or whatever. Everyone was freaking out. And then we all started, like, talking about other costumes, and I was afraid we weren't going to all have costumes. So then I just, like, frantically ordered a bunch of backup Halloween costumes that are all in my suitcase. And that's why. Because I came from Scott. So I have, like, a Cheetah Girls costume in there. I have, like, backup costumes.

[Host 1]

And now I'm like a Sailor Moon. Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

I just have a bunch of different costumes, and I'm like, wait, what? Like, this was really stupid because now I'm not going to get rid of them in case for future Halloween.

[Host 2]

Right. Going to be more.

[Rachel Senate]

I don't have any real clothes in my bag.

[Host 2]

Pull up The f. Dress, JoJo.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. I drove to literally.

[Host 1]

And then the blog's like, oh, my God. It girl kills it with the lovely, absolute slay.

[Rachel Senate]

She crazy.

[Host 1]

Last Question, Rachel, now that we spent an hour together, do you have any constructive criticism you would like to give us?

[Host 2]

Yeah, you're so how can we be better? Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

At all? Just in any way.

[Host 1]

Anything.

[Host 2]

You know, your limited experience right now.

[Host 1]

That be would gone from irl. No. URL to irl.

[Rachel Senate]

URL to irl. I feel like.

[Host 2]

We'Re perfect.

[Rachel Senate]

I think you should do more Tik Toks. Oh.

[Host 2]

We were literally talking about this the other day.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah. I kind of think you should do more tik tok. You guys are really cute together. And, like, I like your chemistry. And I feel like I just want a little. I want a little lip sync. A little lip sync of you guys talking to each other.

[Host 1]

And we had it during COVID We had like a Tick Tock era. I was doing like the trending audios and like making about clothes.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

That's not really how it feels like. That's not really how Tick Tock works anymore.

[Rachel Senate]

No. You gotta find a new thing to do there.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Rachel Senate]

But I think you guys should get on there.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Rachel Senate]

And you should wear more rings because he's wearing rings and I like them.

[Host 2]

I.

[Rachel Senate]

You're not a ring guy.

[Host 1]

I was.

[Rachel Senate]

But you have a bracelet. That's fabulous. Oh, two.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Rachel Senate]

I love that.

[Host 1]

Thanks.

[Host 2]

Well, one guy's got to be ring guy. One guy's gonna.

[Rachel Senate]

You know how it works. More jewelry. Because the jewelry's jewelry.

[Host 1]

What do you like the plug?

[Host 2]

Do you have, like.

[Host 1]

What do you think of guys with little hoop earrings as Lawrence's?

[Rachel Senate]

I like. I like. No, bigger, though. Don't go right, right, right.

[Host 2]

Hugging the lo.

[Rachel Senate]

Don't go any bigger than that.

[Host 1]

Where can the kids follow you? What would you like to plug? Do you have, like a TV show that's out or.

[Rachel Senate]

I have a television show that is out on Sunday night.

[Host 1]

It's really good.

[Rachel Senate]

It's really good. I hope. And we put it on our.

[Host 1]

We put it on our Best of the year.

[Host 2]

Yeah, you're on. You're on the short list, sweetheart.

[Rachel Senate]

Wow. Boom. I would say, check it. Do fun little watch parties. That would make me so happy with your lady friends. I. I was getting tagged in a lot of little watch parties, which. That's how I would watch the Sunday night HBO shows.

[Host 1]

So if you and your dad. Watching Girls.

[Rachel Senate]

Yeah, watching Girls. Yeah. I remember my mom and her sisters watching Desperate Housewives on Sunday nights, like, or whenever it aired. I can't remember one night of the week, but whatever. Desperate Housewives. But I love a watch party, like, building community. Community so that's what you know. Please watch that.

[Host 1]

Just like Entourage, the show kind of made me just want to hang out with my friends. Yes, hanging out with your friends.

[Rachel Senate]

Hang out with your friends.

[Host 1]

You forget that. That's like the best thing.

[Host 2]

Hanging out and chilling. What is better? Yeah.

[Host 1]

Who did more for la? Rachel, Senate or the LA Dodgers?

[Rachel Senate]

Obviously the LA Dodgers. But I threw the first pitch, so I won the World Series. No, that works.

[Host 2]

You heard it here first.

[Rachel Senate]

I just think they've, they've been, been. They've been doing it for longer. I have one episode, so give me a little the catch.

[Host 1]

One of eight.

[Rachel Senate]

One of eight. But it's only the first ones out, so I haven't done that much yet.

[Host 1]

Number two will be out by the time you're watching this. So do a little binge, little back to back.

[Rachel Senate]

Do a little binge. Do a back.

[Host 1]

It's not tv, it's hbo.

[Host 2]

That's true.

[Host 1]

Rachel, we want to thank you for coming on you the only podcast that matters. Chef, take us out.

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