Dale Comstock Delta Force | Tier1 Live

Summary

Tier1 Podcast Summary: Dale Comstock Delta Force | Tier1 Live

Host: Brent Tucker
Guest: Dale Comstock (Former Delta Force)
Date: July 30, 2026
Producer: Drew Tucker
Other Guests/Co-Hosts (in studio): Felix (Germany), Kevin Honan (ex-French Foreign Legion), Magnet (Lion Arms)

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Episode Overview

This lively, unfiltered live episode features a rare, in-depth conversation with Dale Comstock—a legendary former Delta Force operator, MMA fighter, and combatives instructor. Host Brent Tucker (ex-Delta, too) and a panel of "Tier 1" voices dive into the realities of elite special operations, the evolution of military combatives, leadership under fire, and the enduring ethos of service. They also touch modern controversies—military pay, tech surveillance, Islam in America, and political correct culture—while fielding thought-provoking questions from a very engaged live audience.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Legend vs. Reality: Delta vs. SEALs Fight Stories

Timestamp: 03:54–12:15

• Myth Busted: Brent and Dale clarify the legend of a Delta vs. SEALs fight, where Dale was said to have called out multiple SEALs in a row—winning each time.
  • Dale's correction: "No, it didn’t go down like that. I ended up fighting the West Virginia Toughman champion, choked him out in 45 seconds." (10:12)
• Lesson: Stories grow in the telling; Dale prefers the facts to the legend.

2. Combatives & Military Culture: From Rambo Stigma to Elite Training

Timestamp: 13:34–19:36

• Military Resistance to Hand-to-Hand: Early Army attitude saw fighting as "unprofessional"—Dale lobbied hard for combatives.
  • "I thought we were Green Berets, special operations. Why can't we all be like Rambo?" (14:15)
• Program Building: Dale wrote manuals, launched SF combatives at multiple units, blending practical MMA, jiu-jitsu, and “insurance” moves.
• Canine units & program resistance: Leadership resisted both hand-to-hand and canine programs—both later became SF staples.

3. Delta Pay, Military Retirement, and Value of Service

Timestamp: 16:46–22:00

• Major career reflections:
  • "You don't get rich in the military. I think I made 36K a year as a Master Sergeant." (16:48, Dale)
  • "As soon as I left, I started a company; made $350,000 a year doing the same thing." (19:37, Dale)
• Host’s strong opinion: "If a dentist screws up, nothing happens. If a Delta operator screws up, the whole country looks bad. I’d implement a $10,000 AIP a month for these guys." (18:00, Brent)

4. The Operator Mindset: Negotiation, Post-Service Life, and Self-Worth

Timestamp: 24:06–26:45

• Most veterans grossly undervalue themselves out of habit.
  • “I’ve done very dangerous stuff for under $3,000... Sometimes you do it for the right reasons, but you gotta know your worth.” (24:36, Dale)
• Don’t be afraid to negotiate your post-military value.

5. Age, Longevity, and Performance in Delta

Timestamp: 21:27–23:43

• No “one size fits all” age cap—some 40-year-olds outperform 30-somethings.
• Dale: "I'm 63 and in pretty damn good shape. I can do everything—just helped by stem cells." (22:35)

6. Selection, Stress, and What Breaks Candidates

Timestamp: 27:01–33:46

• OTC (Operator Training Course) rarely sees people quit—failures mostly due to mental stress, not physical.
  • "When you're under stress, your brain redirects blood away from the logical frontal lobe. We’re trained to regulate that, but some guys just can't process enough." (29:01, Dale)
• Replicating high-level CQB stress is key to sifting final candidates.

7. Delta, Combatives, and the Rise of Army-wide Programs

Timestamp: 42:32–45:23

• SF combatives day: Started with "closed-loop" practical fight moves, evolved with expert grapplers (notably, before Gracie jiu-jitsu's rise).
• Dale: "I wrote the manual for 3rd Group; people say it became the Army-wide base doc."
• Early pushback: “We don’t need dogs, we have guns. We don’t need to fight, we have guns.” (43:56, Dale)

8. Cultural Questions, UFOs, and Controversy

Timestamp: 36:43–38:47

• Bigfoot? Dale: "No."
• UFOs? Dale shares a serious desert sighting: "Bright light rose up, hovered, disappeared—no drones back then." (37:04–38:05)
• On public allegations, ethics, and past work: Dale sets strong boundaries about what can be discussed from controversial past contracting, particularly re: UAE, Spear Ops, etc.

9. Elite Mindset, Heroes, and Life Lessons

Timestamp: 51:17–52:58

• On mentors: "All of us in the unit had guys we looked up to... I learned to copy their style—emulate them. That’s how you learn." (51:54, Dale)
• Mirroring/Neural Programming in sports, CQB, and development.

10. Law Enforcement, Surveillance, and Technology’s Double-Edged Sword

Timestamp: 71:01–79:01

• Flock cameras, mass surveillance: Dale compares Dubai's ultra-safe, camera-heavy but informant-driven society to what’s happening in the US.
  • "If you think you're alone, you’re not. They have cameras even in the desert." (74:25)
• Concerns: Tech will outpace ethics; mass surveillance is rarely rolled back once implemented.

11. Islam, Immigration, and American Values

Timestamp: 98:59–107:08

• Both host and guest are critical of unchecked mass immigration; nuanced take on Islam.
  • "Islam and the Constitution cannot coexist." (99:10, Brent)
  • "Not every Muslim is the problem. In Indonesia, they just want to live their lives; we need to be specific about the threat." (100:38, Dale)

12. Operator Adrenaline Addiction, Identity, and Mental Health

Timestamp: 112:21–115:32

• Risk post-retirement: Many chase adrenaline through BASE jumping, risky jobs; must redefine identity beyond "shooter."
  • "It's easy to define yourself from who you were, but it's about what you do now and how you help others." (115:32, Dale)
• Moving from “killer” to “mentor” is critical.

13. Elite Pay and Career Purpose; Living Deliberately

Timestamp: 17:27–19:36, 115:32–118:30

• "The measure of manhood isn’t how many people you’ve killed, it's: Do you have a purpose? Do you help others?" (115:32, Dale)

14. Top Skill Preservation and Shooting Ability Post-Unit

Timestamp: 47:05–49:09

• Maintaining Tier 1 shooting skill after exit is "damn near impossible" unless it becomes the single obsession, but neural patterning helps.

15. Audience Q&A Highlights

Throughout, especially 21:27, 42:01, 57:13, 92:03, 130:49

• Weapon preference: “1911, always. But I also shoot a Glock 19 in winter.” (46:14, Dale)
• Everyday Carry (EDC): “Either a compact 1911 or Glock 19.” (49:27)
• Missions wished they’d joined: “Every one I didn’t get to do.” (111:49+)
• Elite mindset: Don’t let ego or fear guide your performance at selection.
• Combatives use: Dale used combatives on target, trained US/ANA soldiers hard—“What I taught them, literally saved lives.” (124:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the nature of legends:
  "I wish the story was true that I beat up all those SEALs, but it's just a good story that got better with time." (06:03–06:10, Dale)
• On elite pay:
  "If a dentist screws up, nothing happens. If a Delta operator screws up, the whole country looks bad." (18:00, Brent)
• On maintaining skill:
  "Once you program the nervous system, it doesn’t take long to retune; it’s like swimming or walking. But you’re only as good as your cold-bore shot." (47:49–48:42, Dale)
• On age and fitness:
  "I'm 63 and I lift as much as I ever did… I just had a little help with stem cells." (22:35, Dale)
• On identity after service:
  "It's not about being Delta forever. Today, I'm a PhD, running multiple businesses, helping people. You must redefine yourself." (115:32, Dale)
• On hand-to-hand:
  "I've seen a lot of guys learn just what they need to get by, but for me it was a passion. Saved lives, even mine." (124:59, Dale)
• On stress resilience:
  "You have to regulate stress so you can think clearly, or you get left behind." (29:01, Dale)
• On government overreach:
  "It starts with a flock camera. But once they integrate mass surveillance, you're done—your guns won't matter." (58:00, 78:47, Dale)
• On cross-cultural combat:
  "Not every Muslim is the same. My wife's Indonesian and Muslim—but not what you think. The problem is importing a culture that doesn't fit with our Constitution." (100:38, Dale)
• On fighting addiction:
  "Base jumping after the unit—it’s chasing that adrenaline. You have to find a new purpose, or you become a ghost." (114:49, Brent)

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Humor & Personality

• Friendly banter over heights, hand size, age, and preferred weapons.
• Audience-superchatted “sit or stand to pee?” and other colorful, irreverent questions.
• Goat-throwing Afghan commandos, livestock in CQB, and horse-mounted mishaps (Dale’s near-death tale of a runaway stallion: "I needed the power steering stick!"). (126:27+)
• Light-hearted Mustang vs. Camaro debate, favorite ice cream flavor (apple pie!), and iconic 80s muscle cars.

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Delta v SEALs Fight Story Dissected: 03:54–12:13
• Military Culture Change—Combatives/Pay: 13:34–19:36
• Selection, Stress & Mindset: 27:01–33:46
• Combatives Program Origins: 42:32–45:23
• UFO Sighting: 36:43–38:47
• Government Surveillance Debate: 71:01–79:01
• Islam & Immigration: 98:59–107:08
• Post-Unit Life/Identity: 112:21–118:30
• List of Practical Q&As: 46:14–124:59 (weapons, age, training, missions missed, etc.)
• Funny Goat Story: 155:59
• Sex During a Raid Story: 158:23

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Key Takeaways

• The truth, though less dramatic than the legend, is always more valuable in special operations history.
• Modern military and special operations have struggled with, and adapted to, changing standards of professionalism, pay, and ethics—often after resistance.
• Warrior ethos is about lifelong learning, mentorship, and moving beyond the “shooter” identity.
• Elite soldiers struggle to find energizing post-service purpose—many risk spiraling into risk addiction without deliberate self-redefinition.
• Deep, respectful conversation—even about controversial societal, religious, or political topics—produces more alignment and understanding than social media ever does.
• True professionalism is measured by performance, not by bravado or stories told.

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Final Thoughts (Guest Dale Comstock) — [Timestamp: 175:43]

"Stop being so judgmental. You don't know what you don't know... If something’s valuable, learn from it. If not, move on. I don’t care what you think of me; let’s just do better as humans—and men. I’m here to share, not brag."

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For New Listeners

Tier1 Podcast—especially this episode—offers frank, firsthand takeaways and real-life lessons from special operations at the highest possible level. Expect insight, irreverence, war stories, and cultural critique—all with an authenticity only these men can deliver.

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Listen if:

• You want the reality behind SOF legends and selection
• You're interested in training, post-career purpose, and the psych behind performance
• You welcome tough, nuanced talk about ethics, politics, and culture, straight from the frontlines

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For more in-depth operations talk, military history, or guest info, see the next episode!

Transcript

[Dale Comstock]

Introducing Meta Glasses. Hey, Meta, any last minute tables for two tonight?

[Magnet]

Sure.

[Dale Comstock]

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[Kevin Honan]

Just saying.

[Dale Comstock]

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[Drew Tucker]

Yeah, buddy.

[Brent]

Oh, we're live.

[Magnet]

We are live.

[Brent]

Sorry. Caught us. Caught a stealth of forcing, didn't they, Dale? Welcome back to the Tier one podcast live. It is a special Wednesday night edition. I know I'm throwing you all off. You guys are like, is it Thursday? No, Dale Comstock's with us on a Wednesday, so we had to do a live. Dale, welcome to the show. Welcome to the live.

[Dale Comstock]

Appreciate it.

[Brent]

It's a whole different animal.

[Dale Comstock]

All right, let's do this.

[Brent]

On the couch over there, we got a couple guests as well. Just a little bit off screen. We got Felix from Germany.

[Drew Tucker]

Lean in there, Felix.

[Brent]

Lean into the left. Lean into the left.

[Drew Tucker]

There he is.

[Brent]

And we got Kevin Honan, a former French Foreign legionnaire. Welcome to the show, Kevin. And as always, we have Magnet from Lion Arms.

[Magnet]

I'm here, boys.

[Brent]

Holding down the couch and making it all happen and on time, mind you.

[Magnet]

He's back.

[Brent]

Well, welcome. Welcome back, Drew. Yeah, welcome back.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah, we're on time.

[Brent]

My brother, Drew Tucker.

[Drew Tucker]

We're on time this week. I'm here. We're on time.

[Magnet]

We were on time last week.

[Brent]

There we go.

[Magnet]

Thank you.

[Brent]

All right, let's do it. All right. Oh, what's this?

[Drew Tucker]

What is that that you have in your hands? That is a new Tier one torch lighter.

[Brent]

Oh, Drew, did you do that? Did you make that happen?

[Drew Tucker]

Well, somebody did. I took advantage of it.

[Brent]

All right, well, thank you, Drew. You can get that over at FRCC Shop. I'll be using. I'll be using that. All right. We just got done doing a recording with Dale Comstock. It was like two and a half hours, and we barely scratched the surface. He tried his best to get me What's. What's canceled? But. But unfortunately, I agreed with everything he said, so we're gonna leave it. We're gonna leave it. And if we get cancelled. Well, if we haven't got canceled yet. We're not going to get canceled, Dale. I wouldn't worry about it.

[Dale Comstock]

I hope not.

[Brent]

Not today. Let's see. You know, here's. Here's a story that it's. It's funny. They got bigger with time. It got bigger with time. And I'll. When. When you finish the story, I'll. I'll tell. I don't know how to. I don't know if I want to tell them first what. What the story is and then have you tell the real story, but I love it. I. You could have taken that chance and been like, yeah, that's how it happened. But you're like, I wish that was how it happened. Let me tell you how it really happened. All right, I'll. I'll start it out with. With the legend it has become. And. And I'll give it over to you. So this is 90s, correct? We're talking 90s. Yes, there was. As iron sharpens iron, there's a good rivalry between us and our sister organization at Virginia Beach. And I do mean sister. And they. We were going to prove it, and we're going to put our best fighter against their best fighter. True so far?

[Dale Comstock]

True.

[Brent]

True so far. All right. And it was. And it was a. It was a big. It was a big to do. A lot of people from our side and their side, including brass, was. Was there placing bets and allegedly placing bets and having a good time. And their fighter. I'll let you tell the story a little bit, and I'll just fast forward it real quick. Their fighter ends up having some medical issues, pulls out, but as the story goes, Dale comes out to the ring taunting the Navy fans and. And then invites any Navy SEAL who thinks he's bad enough into the ring. He comes into the ring, and you make short work of him, send them out. Another Navy SEAL comes to the ring, you make short work of him. The place is going crazy. And at this point, we decide as a unit, it's probably a good time to leave. It's. It's getting. It's getting too rowdy. Is that how it happened?

[Dale Comstock]

No.

[Brent]

Say yes.

[Magnet]

No.

[Brent]

Just say yes. Say yes.

[Drew Tucker]

Okay.

[Magnet]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

I was there. It was close.

[Brent]

All right. What really happened that. That fateful night?

[Dale Comstock]

All right, let me set it up first. So you're right. There was this ongoing rivalry right at

[Brent]

least not much of a rivalry.

[Dale Comstock]

But yeah, during my era, and I don't know if I probably, I'm not going to talk about the events, but we did outperform them, our sisters. And a lot of these are supposed to be really good at, better at than us, and they're not, or at least they weren't at that time. And so every time we would prevail, the game was they're, they're basically their sergeant major, their senior chief, whatever you call it in the Navy. Had to basically issue a keg of beer to our command sergeant major.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

So we've already been beating them pretty good on fact, on everything.

[Brent]

And then these are just facts.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, just facts. I'm not making it up. Um, and then anyways, in 1996, you know, the UFC was starting popular and I fought the first Valley Tudo match in Richmond, Virginia. And basically Valley 2 is Portuguese for anything goes. Right. So it's three five minute rounds, sanction street fight. And I fought one of Frank Coochie's guys and he left with a sea call around his neck and both my hands were broken. So it kind of, I don't know how it really ended. It kind of just ended as a draw because we beat the out of each other because everybody led us. And so I kind of made a statement that led to another fight in Richmond, Virginia. So a big, big hoop de do and. And they wanted me to fight Seal Team 6. One of their best guys, should I say his name is? Oh, he's a, he's an admiral. I don't know if I should. Yeah, okay, well, anyways, I think it was Shymansky. It was his name.

[Brent]

Correct.

[Dale Comstock]

Okay, so at that time he wasn't the commander.

[Brent]

I mean, you didn't end up fighting him, so it's not, it's not like a big deal.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. And so anyways, they, they couched it as Delta force. Delta Force versus Navy SEALs. Battle of the elite. Right. So he and I were supposed to fight. It's a tough man contest. At Valley Tudo, Anything goes. And a bunch of fighters going to be there. But we were going to be the, the match, main event. Yeah. So I had a lot of experience fighting. I was a pro boxer, MMA fighter. You know, I got two six degree black belts, first degree black belts. I got a little bit of experience in the ring and so I show up in the morning. So anyways, this command sergeant major from the unit also comes up there because he wants to support this. He wants to, you know, he's got a beer at stake. And, and so. And the cool thing was the unit did support me. Right. So technically, you're not supposed to be moonlighting as a fighter, professional fighter, or a pizza delivery guy or anything like that, unless you have specific, you know,

[Brent]

there's waivers for that, right?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Well, I just did it.

[Brent]

And so.

[Dale Comstock]

And it allowed it because I also taught the hand to hand program for the unit. Right, right. And so they looked at us like, well, when he's going out there, you know, beating people up and getting beat up, he's bringing all his lessons back and train our guys, right? So there's some value in that. So everybody kind of just overlooked it. So this is why the chain of command supported it. Having a problem with it. They thought it'd be kind of fun. So they came up there. And that morning I weighed in, you know, got the medical test checked from the doctor, the physician. So you're good to go, report back tonight, like at 7 o' clock or something like that. Roger that. I go home, I'm in my hotel room, and a few hours later I get a phone call saying, you're not gonna be fighting this guy tonight. He got DQ'd. And I'm like, why?

[Brent]

Medical reasons.

[Dale Comstock]

I'm just gonna say medical reason.

[Magnet]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

It's kind of funny, medical reason. But, you know, I was like, whoa. And so they gave me all kinds of reasons this to be a bad idea because you might go blind and blah, blah, and all this scary stuff like, okay, yeah, I don't want to fight that guy. He won. And so I ended up. Ended up fighting the West Virginia tough man champion. That lasted all of about 45 seconds before.

[Brent]

Check him out, you know.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, so that's, that's what ended up happening. He and I never fought.

[Brent]

All right, so it was not another Navy seal. But someone did, Someone did step into the ring with you, and you did dispose of him fairly quick.

[Dale Comstock]

That was easy. Yeah.

[Brent]

How'd you beat him in 45 second? Do you remember what, what it was?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, he ran into a guillotine. I. I took him in the guard and choked him out.

[Brent]

He ran into a guillotine. Don't do that. Don't block fists with your face.

[Dale Comstock]

No.

[Brent]

And don't run into guillotines.

[Dale Comstock]

I, I usually don't grapple. I, I just. Look, it's, it's all cool and stuff, but in a real fight, it's, it's dangerous. I've seen guys get stabbed putting guys in, you know, arm bars, Japanese arm bars. Like that in a street fight, you want to stay on your feet, give yourself the option to run, kick or whatever, but you don't have as many options on your. On the ground, and especially if there's multiple fighters, right? So, yeah, you know, mma, martial arts, jiu jitsu, shoot fighting, all that, it's cool. But it's.

[Brent]

I call tools.

[Dale Comstock]

There's just tools, right. I call them insurance, so. Insurance. So I get back to my feet and run or right for my gun, right? Yeah, that's how I look at it. So. All right. I don't miss an opportunity. You're gonna run it head first. I'll just choke the out of you. Get it over with right now.

[Brent]

As. As the story goes, we didn't want to miss that opportunity. We. We still thought you were the man. And we're. We're looking for any reason to. To beat those guys and we thought we could do it again. So there was a rematch that was to be scheduled, but at some point, Usasaki J soccer sock catches wind of this and they're like, you know what? We didn't know you were doing it the first time. And we're not. We don't. We don't believe this is good for business. You. There will be no rematch.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, actually, so it wasn't right away. Probably a few years later, there was this big tough man tournament that was being proposed. Right. So the guy that was, I guess, running the whole show, he. He claimed he, he knocked out Muhammad Ali in training one time. Maybe did. Maybe he's older guy, big guy. But, but anyways, this was going to be.

[Brent]

Again, which side? Sorry, who, who said they. A guy from the Navy SEAL side?

[Dale Comstock]

No, no, the. Whoever the promoter was.

[Brent]

The promoter.

[Magnet]

Okay. All right.

[Dale Comstock]

I don't know what his background was, but anyways, they were looking for again, Special forces dude, Seals, Marines, right? They're going to have. They wanted to see soldiers fighting, right? And it's gonna be televised. It's gonna be a big hoop de doop. And I thought, well, hell, why not, right? So I signed up for it as well. And then, yeah, you saw, came down and said, no, not no, but hell no, because. And the reason they said it, this is what pisses me off. Because during that time, that era, there was no combatives programs other than the one in the unit that I helped START and 1 and 3rd Special Forces Group. And. And so it was making a comeback, but we weren't there yet. So you like, you know, that's unbecoming of a professional. You Guys out there fighting like kids, you know, we don't do that. And I'm like, I thought we were Green Berets and special operations dudes. Right? I mean.

[Magnet]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

Made no sense. So, yeah, they. They can. The whole thing, it never came to be.

[Brent]

I hate it when they say things like, that's not professional. Because I don't believe for as smart as they are, they know the meaning of the word. To be professionals, be proficient at your profession. Yeah, fighting is our profession. And so to be good at fighting is to be professional.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Well, I went to. I went to third group and I was an S3 Assistant Ops NCO for the group for a minute. And I was only going to be there for like a year, so I was going through a divorce. You know, it's kind of typical for me, but. And I had as a single parent, and so I asked for a minute, give me a, you know, a respite like an. Fly a desk for a minute. Never did that before. And so the Sergeant major, group Sergeant major is like, listen, I heard, you know, you do hand in hand, you taught the program over there, blah, blah, blah. He goes, let me ask you a question. He goes, what's wrong with Rambo? And I'm like, you mean like Sergeant Major Rambo? Because there was a Sergeant Major Rambo special, right?

[Brent]

Love it.

[Dale Comstock]

He goes, no, no, no. Johnny Rambo, right? You know, the movie. And I thought it was a trick question. And I was like, be careful how you answer that, right? Because I know what the, you know, with the. There was kind of a stigma with the air was like, people didn't like us fighting, right. Because it's unbecoming of a professional. And I'm like. I said, well, sorry, Mater, I don't. I don't really know what's wrong with him. Right. I wasn't where he's going with that. I said, I don't see anything wrong with Rambo. I mean, he's a fictional character kind of in a movie. He goes, that's right. There's nothing wrong with it. He goes, how come we can't have more Rambos? You know? You go, we're Green Berets. Why can't we all be like Rambo? You know? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I got all worked up.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

Because now we're in alignment, you know.

[Brent]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Dale Comstock]

No, and so he was like, look. He goes. He goes, I tell you what. He goes, how would you. Like he was doing me a favor. But he wasn't, right? Because now he's giving me an extra duty because I'm just supposed to be running the op shop downstairs, right. Managing that piece of it. And he goes, how would you like to run a hand to hand program for third group, right wing. Sorry to bedroom on your time.

[Brent]

Yeah, I know, right? Hey, that's what I love about the military. The military is the only place that will continue to give you more responsibilities and not a penny more. No, you wanna. You wanna go, you know, enhance your skills and be a level two, same pay. You want to be a jump master, Same pay. You want to go be a sniper, Same pay. You just go down the list y. And. And we don't do it for the pay, which is why we go do those things. But I really, I did, I thought if. If you go do you. You jump, you get a pay for it, right? You do your demo, which we didn't always get demo pay, you get demo pay for it. I think pay should have been. Should have been assigned to every extracurricular thing that. That you did that was out.

[Dale Comstock]

They used to call it pro pay when I was in. Right. They give you pro pay for that like every.

[Brent]

Well, that's just for being a Green Beret.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Jumping. You had to jump. Do a HALO jump at least once every three months, right?

[Brent]

Yep.

[Magnet]

Once a quarter.

[Dale Comstock]

If you did any demo work, you got paid for that. So there's a. It was a small, you know, small amount of money.

[Brent]

They took demo pay away from us for a while. We finally got at. At the SF level.

[Dale Comstock]

Okay.

[Brent]

We finally got it back here. Here's a lie I was told. If you go to the unit, you won't lose any of your pays. And I got to the unit on my first paycheck. I wanted to know where my dive pay was. They said, well, except that one. I said, well, you left that out of the brief.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

What do you mean, except for that one?

[Dale Comstock]

You don't get rich in the military. You know, when I look back as a master sergeant, I think I was making $36,000 a year, you know, living in a. Renting a house, driving two used cars with three kids and a wife. And, you know, we weren't starving, we were getting by, but we sure didn't have a lot of extra money laying around to go do something cool, you know. But yeah, you don't get rich in the military. You don't join the military to get rich. You join the military to serve your country and hopefully walk away with some skill sets that you can apply later in life. Which by the way, there's actually quite a few skill sets. Most guys just don't know. They don't recognize them.

[Brent]

Yes, it's true.

[Dale Comstock]

You know.

[Brent]

Yeah, here's, here's an unpopular opinion, but I stand by it. You know, psychologists and dentists and doctors, they get a stipend, they get a bonus every year because of, of of what they do. And to keep them in, it's like 30, a lot, 50, $70,000. It's something like that depending on. And of course, as adult force operator, we got paid a little extra, but nothing that's going to change your life.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

If a dentist screws up that cavity, guess what happens. Nothing. If a Delta Force operator screws up a mission, the whole country looks bad. I would, I would put a. I know it sounds crazy, but I mean it. I'd put a ten thousand dollar AIP a month instead of the much smaller, smaller, smaller portion that it is to reward those guys who, like no one else get asked to do things for this country and could embarrass this country. I would, I would, I would reward them monetarily. I believe they, they believe that. I believe, I believe they, they earned that.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. But I think so too.

[Brent]

They're not going to do it. So we're just going to reward dentists and psychologists.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And say, well, they might, they could go. That's, that's to help even the, the, the pay to make sure they don't go out into the civilian world and get it. Well, guess what? I could, if I wanted to, I could go out to the civilian world and make a lot more money as a contractor, but I'm basically getting hosed because I have duty and loyalty to country over a bigger paycheck.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And so we, we don't get those things anyway. Just a fun little.

[Dale Comstock]

It's a good point because remember I just said a minute ago my, my pay was $36,000 a year as a, as a master sergeant. So I retired from, in 2001. But soon as I left the military, I started a company and then I got hired as a contractor.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

And I went from making $36,000 a year to over $350,000 a year doing, doing pretty much the same thing. Pretty much the same thing. Right. Yeah. So I had to pay for my own insurance, whatever. But that's, that's nothing in the big scheme of things. Right. So yeah, there's, there, you're to your point. Yeah. You could walk away and, and make a lot more money.

[Brent]

Yeah. You know here's. Here's another travesty. And it's nothing against these jobs. We got to have them, but not all jobs are the same. I retired as an E8 with 20 years. The supply guy, lover. Supply guys. But the supply guy that retired as an E8 with 20 years. Me and him make the same amount of money. I think there should be something added to your retirement for. For people who laid it all on the line. And I think most people would. Would agree with that. But that's. That's where we're at. I think the SAS does it the best. They have a. All their operators, I believe, go to a warrant officer pay. And they may make a little bit less at the beginning because they start out at, you know, like a W01, but. But they'll end up with a better retirement and a better pay the longer they stay in. I mean, there's. There's ways around this to do it better. Don't do a good job of it.

[Dale Comstock]

At the end of the day, it's just all you still are is cannon fodder. You're still just an infantry guy. Yeah. Just a little more high speed.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

You're expendable.

[Brent]

You. Man, I've seen it. They've. They've moved us around this world as a pawn, just as a deterrent, which is crazy to think about, but I've.

[Drew Tucker]

I've.

[Brent]

I've seen it happen. Like, I don't think you had any intention of using me.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

There's just moving pawns on the battlefield, which is. Which is. You're right. Which is unfortunate. Truth. Drew, let's go to some super chats, get a couple those knocked out.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Solely the usual upfront super chats. He's always got him in there in the first. All right. What do you think the max age to serve in Delta should be before you have to retire?

[Brent]

That's a tough question. People age differently. I've seen people deep in their 40s that could outperform a 35 year old. But at the end of the day, you're only gonna have so much time on a team. So if you're no longer on a team, that's not. That's not really what you're there for anymore. So I don't.

[Magnet]

I don't.

[Brent]

I don't see a necessity to put an age limit on that. But what say you, Dale?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Agreement. You know, again, it's conditioning. I mean, I've. When I was there, there were guys in their 40s. They were just machines, man. Holy you know. Yeah. Longevity as far as on a team. I don't know. You know, I'm not trying to brag, but I'm 63 and I'm. I'm in pretty damn good shape. I don't run like I used to because I choose not to.

[Brent]

Aside from that, can your knees do it? I mean, physically? I mean, if you wanted to run, could you?

[Dale Comstock]

I do run.

[Magnet]

Okay. All right.

[Dale Comstock]

And it can. Well, I had a little help though with stem cells, but aside from that, I. I can do everything. I lift as much as I've ever lifted physically across the board. I feel really, really good.

[Brent]

All right, I got a question for you. Are you ready for this? We decide to go on a ground invasion into Iran and they. There's a recall. I don't know why. We're just making this up. And they're like. And they come to you, Dale, It'll be a six month deployment. We need, we need the old boys. Can you do it again?

[Dale Comstock]

Could you.

[Brent]

Would you go back to adults force team for six months? Not could you? I said should you. Do you think you could, couldn't and could and should. I guess both are irrelevant.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I think I could. No doubt. And should I? If they're going to pay me,

[Drew Tucker]

if

[Dale Comstock]

I got to go back, if I got to go to the military and sacrifice all my everything I already have.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

Because it's a lot more than government pay. Right. So if I'm gonna have to give that up or lose it, you better pay me the equivalent amount or more, you know.

[Magnet]

You know you're not getting paid. 36.

[Brent]

I love that answer. Because in the day, you, you pose that to them. What if they say yes, but if, if you never pose that to them, you don't even. I think veterans are so bad about dealing and debating negotiating.

[Dale Comstock]

Negotiating.

[Brent]

Gosh, you couldn't think of the word negotiating for their pay and knowing what they're truly worth.

[Dale Comstock]

Absolutely. And actually most of them don't. And I mean, I know what I'm worth and. But honestly, to your point, also, I've done. I've done some very dangerous stuff for less than 3, 000 bucks. Yeah, I'm not joking. I mean like stuff that if I get caught, I'm going to jail probably for the rest of my life. And not because it's illegal, because. But because it was immoral and unethical. Was happened to this person in a foreign country.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

And it had several incidents like that. But I'm like, you know what? I understand and I Got nothing else to do. Just buy my plane ticket, put me up in a hotel room for it. Won't take us more than two nights and I'll take care of it. And Kaching? Done. 3,000 bucks. Fed me. I'm happy. I don't always do that. Yeah, but, but there are times I, I do, I, I don't want to call it charity work, but sometimes some people are just in a jam and they can't get out of it. Not necessarily. They got themselves in it. So I have done that. But, but you're also right. A lot of guys don't know their value and, and they undervalue themselves and there's, there's two problems. This is what I've seen with veterans.

[Brent]

Bring the mic just a little closer to you.

[Dale Comstock]

I'm sorry.

[Brent]

You know, you're good.

[Dale Comstock]

They're, they're, they're so obscure minded from the military. When they get out, they're afraid to tell anybody what they did. Right.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

They act like the Chinese are listening to every now they've been out for 20 years and they think there's still valuable information the Chinese or Russians want. I'm like, dude, there's nothing in your head after 72 hours that anybody cares about. So they're afraid to tell people they were a Green Beret. Right. Like why? You know, because it was beating their head. So then they go around and they don't tell people who they are, what they're capable of because they think they're still in the military when you're not. And so they don't really market themselves very well.

[Brent]

And, and I, they have this servant mindset that says I'll do, you know, I mean, they'll accept if it's fair. I mean they won't get paid pennies, but to their, to their, in their mind, they're like, I, I will work and you tell me what you think that. And then they'll, they just go through this.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

This list and go, okay, that's fair to me. I want to be, I want to be value added and I don't want to charge you too much and be unfair because they're just so used to being, having this servant mindset which is what you need in the military or else you'd have left a long time ago. But that mindset has to change once you leave as well.

[Magnet]

To some degree you're undervaluing yourself. And I do the same thing with the shop. Yeah, I undervalue myself all the time.

[Brent]

Good people do that. And it's it sucks because good people do that and other people take advantage of, of good people. Yeah, that's just the truth. Drew, what else we got for the super chats?

[Drew Tucker]

Well, just to be clear, I just want to make the, the 3,000. The things that he's done for, for, you know, $3,000 or less. That is not a promotion or an advertisement of Dale's skills and special services.

[Dale Comstock]

All right, thank you for clearing that up.

[Drew Tucker]

Solely says it's common for guys to quit in 22s as jungle phase despite passing hard selection. If guys don't quit in Delta OTC after similar SAS selection is OTC is less hard than SAS jungle phase.

[Brent]

That's a, that's a good question. I can't, that I, I, I don't feel qualified to answer because I don't. I've had SAS guys on here. They've talked about jungle phase. I don't know what jungle phase really entails, but, but I, but I can tell you this, that I know of. It'd be rare. It's super rare that anyone quits otc. But you don't have to. You don't have to really, especially at these higher levels, you don't really have to make things really, really, really hard to make guys quit because most of them won't quit. The only thing you have to do is hold high standards and enforce that standard and you'll get the guys you want.

[Dale Comstock]

I agree. And remember, it's, it's mental. It's mostly mental. All mental. And usually when guys make it to that point where they're an otc, the guys I've seen get canned. The biggest problem they had was they couldn't cope with stress. Right? Like another level of stress. I'm not walking through the woods kind of stressed with a ruck Zack on but a whole nother level of stress. Right. They just could not cope and they could not process information fast enough to react. And a lot of times they're just caught flat footed and then they made mistakes. There's a, there's actually a phenomena behind it. It's all psychological, but when you're under stress and under pressure, which the unit was very good at doing that, especially during trainings, right. I mean they, they wrap it up and if, if you fall off the train, you're not going to get back on. But what happens is when stress starts picking up, you don't have a choice. The stress shot phenomena kicks in, right? The general adaption syndrome. And what happens is you go into this fight or flight mode there's actually five different responses. But fight or flights, what everybody kind of talks about and what happens is you. You literally, your hormones, you know, adrenaline levels, epinephrine, norepinephrine, cortisol are all excreted. You push blood and oxygen to the large muscle groups, and you also push blood and oxygen from the frontal lobe, which is the part of the brain that does all the rational thinking, logical thinking. You push it to the back of the brain to the limbic system, because the limbic system is controlling your fight or flight reflexes. Right. It's trying to optimize its performance, not its thinking. This is why people make mistakes under stress, is because they can't think clearly because they're not getting enough O2. And so through the training that we've had, we've learned to regulate stress so we can think clearly. And. But most guys genetically or for whatever reason, just can't seem to cope fast enough. And those are the ones that usually don't make it. It's not because they couldn't physically perform. It's because they mentally could not perform. They couldn't keep up.

[Brent]

Yeah. I think one of the. One of the worst ones to see is guys that aren't doing well in CQB and, you know, and they know which gets. Which gets them more that they are good at cqb, you know, whether it be sith guys or safari constructors or rangers with a lot of CQB experience, and they know they're good. But it's different when you're at a high level at your old unit. There's not a lot of pressure to perform, and you have a high confidence. You're like. And, you know, you got this, and now you're thrust in this world that you're a new guy again. And these people up here, the Catwalk, are gods of CQB with a small giant and that pressure that you really haven't felt in years or maybe ever, and you're just not doing CQB at the level that, you know, you could if we. If we picked you up out of this and put you back with your old team and told you to. The same style as CQB with all the same standards, they do it, but they fall apart under. Under the pressure under this new circumstance. And it's hard to watch guys that, you know, can do this, they're just not doing it right now.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. And it takes time because it's really a function of calibrating the nervous system. Nervous system.

[Brent]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

So some guys tune it faster than others.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

A lot of times the training apparatus can have a crucial play in the whole thing. Your instructors. Honestly, I had. I had Mad Max as my instructor. As hardcore as he was, he was. He was a great instructor. I still quote him today on a lot of things. Really? Like, you know, I mean, like, one of my favorite quotes he used to always tell us is, run the situation. Don't let it run you. Yeah, man, that's so profound. You know, another one, a classic was don't just stand or do something. God damn it. Even if it's wrong, just do something. But don't stand there.

[Brent]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

Like. Got it. Roger that. Move around.

[Brent]

I've said that as a CQB instructor, right? Absolutely.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

Your frontal lobe doesn't develop until you're 25. Correct?

[Dale Comstock]

Well, it's already developing as soon as you're born. But, I mean, the.

[Magnet]

The. Your mind. That's why I always say 25 and up for certain things, because the man's.

[Brent]

And. And some would say that yours hasn't developed yet.

[Magnet]

It still hasn't, but you became a CAD guy at 23.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

All right.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. So it.

[Magnet]

It.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, it's. It's more than it. I mean, it's. If you want to get really technical, it has to do with subconscious Reticular Activated System. There's a lot of things that play here. Just think of your brain as one big quantum computer system, and you're literally trying to download software very rapidly in an environment that you have no control over.

[Magnet]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

But you got to control it.

[Brent]

I got a question for you. This is unique to you because I think it's pretty safe to say at the time, you were the youngest guy to be going through otc. It can. I feel like you can do two things. It doesn't put as much pressure on you because you're like, man, I shouldn't be here anyway, so just send it. Right. Or it puts a. A lot more pressure on you because you're like, I shouldn't be here. I have something to prove. I'm 23, and. And now I feel even more pressure. Was it one of those two for you or.

[Dale Comstock]

No.

[Brent]

Really?

[Dale Comstock]

No. Actually, wasn't neither one of them. I'm not that. That cocky that think, you know, I gotta outperform all these guys. I got something to prove. I never. I've never felt like that. I felt like, okay, you're here. You've been accepted. Do what's expected and just perform at your best.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

Honestly, I never looked at it like that, and I don't know if I'm the exception or what, but I didn't let my ego get in the way. Yeah, that's. I think that's probably the important part is keep your ego out of it. Stay focused on what you're supposed to do. Do your best. And if you do your best, you shouldn't fail, you know?

[Brent]

Yeah, I've been in some high stress situations, and people ask me, you know, later, you know, what I was thinking during that? And luckily or unluckily for me, there were times I just wasn't smart enough to realize what was going on. So I didn't have any pressure because I didn't. I didn't even know the stakes were that high. So it was really easy for me.

[Dale Comstock]

You came that close to getting killed.

[Brent]

What else we got, Drew?

[Drew Tucker]

Did you or Spear Operations Group delete people who didn't deserve to be deleted?

[Dale Comstock]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Drew Tucker]

Do you regret supporting uae, which did crimes like torture, execution of political opponents?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Well, that's your opinion. I'll just leave that at that. I'm not going to answer that. That's just a dumb question. And maybe. Let me ask you this. I'm not not answering. But you don't know what you don't know. You only know what we want you to know. And you can read all the rags that you want and all the garbage that's in there, but the only people know what really happened were the people who were there. So don't ask me a dumb question like that, because I'm not going to answer that, because that would be stupid. And I'm not going to incriminate myself, even though I didn't break a law. So I'll just leave it at that.

[Brent]

All right?

[Drew Tucker]

Solid answer. Sonny Marbury in the house says, sup, Sonny? Mother Tucker's love, y'. All. Sons of Brent's. Drew, do me a favor and have Brent stand up so you can measure his height on camera. Our group chat has serious questions about it and want to know.

[Brent]

I'm six foot tall. Okay? I'm six foot tall.

[Magnet]

I'm six foot tall now.

[Drew Tucker]

I'm. I'm sorry, did I laugh at the microphone? My bad.

[Brent]

I'm six foot tall. Dale. How. How tall are you?

[Dale Comstock]

Almost six foot.

[Brent]

Almost six foot?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Like five, eleven and a half.

[Brent]

I love how you couldn't let go of the six foot, though. Like, almost six.

[Dale Comstock]

Well, I couldn't because I actually lost a half an inch in the helicopter crash. I want it back.

[Magnet]

I'm almost six foot tall too.

[Brent]

Yeah, right. I mean, it's subjective at that point. Yeah, subjective.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, let's see. Holy folks, dale. Bigfoot and UFOs. Any stories you can share and do you believe Outro song for Brent and his tier one spelling conjunction function by Schoolhouse Rock. $10.

[Brent]

I've been known to misspell a few things. I know how to spell. It's my fat fingers. And Autocorrect is not my friend. Autocorrect is not my friend.

[Magnet]

On the Patreon, I was like, oh

[Brent]

gosh, don't text after midnight. I. I also. I don't know if Nick had spelled that or me, to be honest with you. But I'll. I'll take the blame. I'm the leader. I'll take the blame. Okay, Bigfoot or UFOs. What say you, Dale? But people want to know.

[Dale Comstock]

I don't think there's Bigfoot Foot, but I do believe in UFOs and UAPs for sure. That for sure.

[Brent]

Any strange sightings or reasons because that

[Dale Comstock]

other than I actually have one. My own personal one.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

I'm not going to say where it was but. And who I was with.

[Brent]

But I bring the mic just a little closer. Like just keep it. No, you're good. Yeah, just pull the arm straight to.

[Dale Comstock]

There you go. This big black thing in front of my mouth.

[Magnet]

You just made it weird.

[Dale Comstock]

Wait, I'm going to accidentally. Why are you like. Oh. I was in the desert. Flat deserts. Flat as it can can be. To my front was a butte maybe three, 400ft tall, flat on the top. And that was all that was out there. And it was the middle of night. Stop. We're doing something. Map check. And I look forward and there's this big white bright light comes up from the backside of this beaut. Just goes up and just sits there and hovers. It's not a flare. It's not a helicopter. It's not a. They didn't even have drones back in the day. But whatever it was, it was a very bright light, raised up, just stood there, stayed there and hovered for maybe 30 seconds and then went back down behind that butte. Now we could see all the way around from where we were at. If that thing had left and went to the horizon, we would have saw it. So we actually drove all the way around. There was nothing there. Gone just like that.

[Drew Tucker]

Really?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. And I mean, there wasn't another light within 20 miles. And this thing was very bright. So you know, what is it? I don't know, but probably the closest thing to a UAP that I saw, a ufo, and it happened to be in an area where there's a lot of these sightings. So. But, you know, again, you know, I've done. I've done a lot of work, a lot of research. I read a lot of. Watch a lot of YouTube videos. There seems to be enough evidence to support the idea that there are. There is alien life. It has. Is. Come here.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

You know, why. Why don't we. Why do we not know about it? Well, ask your government. Why are you not telling us?

[Brent]

Right.

[Magnet]

So.

[Brent]

All right, there you go.

[Drew Tucker]

Should Delta bring back the hot seat? And did you experience this?

[Dale Comstock]

The hot seat?

[Brent]

Yes. I think what they're referring to is sitting inside as a. As a hostage and having live rounds shot by you, by. By your fellow students.

[Dale Comstock]

So let me caveat that. Not by my fellow students. Okay. They're students and they make mistakes. We used to do that. I remember we used to do some demos where literally the commander would sit in a chair up against the wall. He had two IPSIC targets right here. And we'd enter one guy with a 12 gauge is literally freaking pumping rounds and right by his head into the target. Right.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

Now, I wouldn't recommend that anywhere else, but at the level we were training and the level of confidence, nobody thought that was a. A bad idea.

[Brent]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

But it is a bad idea to be the student or you're going to be the hostage with students doing cqb. Yeah. I've seen guys get shot like that. Like, really bad idea. Yeah.

[Magnet]

All right.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

There you go.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Honey Badger says Dale has been on with Alex Jones a bunch. You should go on sometime, Brent, that would be bad arse.

[Magnet]

What?

[Brent]

You'd mentioned that, and I was gonna ask, what's. What's your thoughts on. On Alex Jones? He's a little polarizing.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

But he's wrong on some things, but he's not wrong on everything at the same time.

[Dale Comstock]

I. I think just. I personally, I like the guy.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

I've had personal conversations with him. He's definitely focused on what he's doing. And he. I don't know how he's where he got that energy from, but, man, he's got a lot of energy, even off camera, man, he's going. I particularly like him. I think he is right on a lot of things. I don't. I don't know too many things I think he's wrong on, but overall, I think he's a threat because he's the guy that Will speak up and call it like he sees it. And people don't like that. They want to shut him up.

[Brent]

Yeah, I, I do, I do respect that about him. Whether, whether he's right or wrong, that he's, he's willing to, he's, he's a, he speaks with conviction.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And he's, he's willing, he's willing to say things.

[Dale Comstock]

Now.

[Brent]

He eventually took it back. The Sandy Hook thing was unfortunate. That's about the nicest way I can say it.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

But he, but I also give credit. That's, that's what he thought he was wrong. And, and he, he came back and walked that back, which I give him credit for that too. That's not, not easy to do for, for any man. And he did that.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. You know what he. We were talking about in the car this morning? Did he not call out 9, 11, 6 months before it happened?

[Brent]

Yeah, I've, I've seen that. I've seen it. Never did like a deep, like, dive into that, because that sounds crazy, but I, I've seen that. And it's, it seems to be common knowledge that, that he did that.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, it seems like he's gotten a few things right. Yeah, he might have got some things wrong. Yeah.

[Brent]

I'm not gonna throw the baby out with the bath water with, with that guy.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, let's see. Wiley Coyote.

[Magnet]

Wiley.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, man. Thank you for the love, man. Appreciate it very, very much. Dale Brent. I come from judo, wing and Chun, JKD. Background, trained back in 80s-90s with folks you might know, if you can say who were the key outside experts, if any, who headed up or consulted with CAG combatives programs back in the day. My vote for outro. Van Halen, Mean street.

[Dale Comstock]

So again, I don't want to walk a weird opposite line, but let me put it this way. Some of the first guys that came in were some of the best jiu jitsu grapplers in the world at the time. Without naming names, we've had other guys come in, they were experts in their field. A lot of it was not even combatives in the formal sense. It was actually what I call it was. It was closed loop type training, but it was more related to hot now, easy techniques for overcoming an adversary or controlling somebody. So we kind of started down that road and then the program just started to grow. So by, by the time I, in 1996, we had a pretty robust combatives program in the unit. I ran it for a while and then I took that program to third group. I wrote the manual for the third group Combatives program, which I understand can. I don't know if it's true. This is hearsay from other people. They're saying, yeah, it became the, the base document for the army wide Hand to Hand program. I don't know if that's true. I'm just paraphrasing others. But. But it didn't. We didn't have a program in the unit or anywhere. Right. Because it was unprofessional.

[Brent]

Right, right.

[Dale Comstock]

And I remember. And I would actually bring it up to the units, like, hey, you know, I brought up two things, canines and Hand to hand. I'm a big canine guy. I've been training camps for a long time.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah, right. On both.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. And. And you know what the answer was? We don't need dogs. We got guns. We don't need to know how to fight. We got guns like, okay, wait till I beat the. Out of you on the way to mess hall and tell me how you're done. Work for you. Right. And now the two. Some of the two most successful programs they have.

[Brent]

Absolutely, that's. I was gonna ask that. Did you ever think about doing. I don't know if they had at the time, but I imagine the, like, All American Week has been going on for a long time and they have a combatives tournament during All American Week. Did you. How'd you fare in it?

[Dale Comstock]

It got my ass beat by a guy named Sergeant Rock. Sure did, man. It was. Yeah, we used to have these battalion field days and they set up the ring and everything, you know, And I thought at 18 I could do this. And I went in with a guy named Sergeant Rock and he hit me like a rock.

[Brent]

Yeah, I did it at 18.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Well, I just joined the army. I just got to 82nd. Yeah, I thought I was a tough guy and learned otherwise, but. But I never lost a passion for fighting, so I just, I just stuck with it, you know, and. And I still fight, you know, I'm 63. I'm actually trying to put together a four round pro fight for myself and a competitive body building show this year.

[Brent]

Love it.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Heck yeah.

[Magnet]

What year did they bring in Jiu

[Brent]

Jitsu into the unit?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, it actually started. Let me give this some thought for a second. I want to say circa 1992. 93, I was gonna say, because the

[Magnet]

Gracies obviously came and made it popular in 93, so.

[Brent]

Interesting name.

[Dale Comstock]

You said that.

[Brent]

Interesting name. All right.

[Drew Tucker]

Zone Magnet. Says the unit needs all the old and broken Guys for one last operation. You guys in?

[Dale Comstock]

Sign me up.

[Brent]

Yeah, I. I'm that dumb. Hey, wait.

[Dale Comstock]

You keep showing us old guys. I don't like that, man.

[Drew Tucker]

They also called you broke. Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

All right. Not completely wrong about old. Not completely wrong about broken.

[Drew Tucker]

Old and busted.

[Brent]

But I prefer the term very experienced.

[Dale Comstock]

Mature and mature and deliberate in what I do. Even in my walking is deliberate.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

It's all context.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, Dale Glocker Sig. It's. You have to answer it.

[Brent]

It's important. It's an important question.

[Dale Comstock]

All right. It's just. That's an easy one for me. It's neither. It's the cult 19.

[Brent]

You know, I'll give you a pass on that because I know. Because I. I know how. How emotionally attached you and a lot of guys were to. To that 1911 doesn't want to be

[Drew Tucker]

called old, but then answers questions like that.

[Dale Comstock]

Let me tell you. I could probably upshoot Most guys with M19 11 that are pretty good with a figure Glock. Now, I do shoot a glock. I shoot a 17 and 19.

[Kevin Honan]

All right.

[Dale Comstock]

I was forced. There you go.

[Magnet]

Okay. There it is. All right.

[Dale Comstock]

I was forced to. But I always default back to a.45. I got one with me right now. That's. That's my go to gun. Cold gun out of the holster. I'll right between the eyes for a shot every time.

[Brent]

All right. I believe you.

[Drew Tucker]

Let's see. Beaten zone magnet back in again and says, is it hard to maintain the Tier 1 shooting ability after guys Etsy?

[Brent]

Is it hard? It's damn near impossible. But I do know guys that maintain it. But that hat. That has to be. That has to be your. Your. Your continued obsession. Yeah, to some degree. If that's what you do.

[Magnet]

I've.

[Brent]

I've heard some guys say I'm actually a better shot now than I was in the unit.

[Dale Comstock]

The guys who.

[Brent]

They get into competitive shooting, well, that's because that's all they do now. They're no longer worried about mobility. They're no longer worried about skydiving. They're no longer worried about physical fitness at the. At the same level. They're no longer worried about all these other extracurricular things. It's the only thing that they now focus on. So that's. That's what it takes.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I agree to some. To some degree. I hear with that. But again, I'm a. I'm a. I'm a mind guy. Right. So once you program the nervous system, it doesn't take long to Retune it and start. I shoot pretty accurate. I shoot probably as good as I now do now as I did when I was in the unit. And it doesn't take me long to get back, get back on, on target.

[Brent]

No, I agree with that. Real quick. I, I, if it, I know what to do. The russ has to knock off the muscles, have to, to remember what it is that I'm trying to tell them to do. And it doesn't take long to, to, to get back up there. But you're, you're only as good as you are with your cold bore shot.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

So to speak.

[Dale Comstock]

Right.

[Brent]

And, and with that, my cold war shot was, was, was always on point and now I, I'd have to, I'd have to train up a little bit for it. But it's, it's not out of reach.

[Dale Comstock]

Nah, it's not. You have to train all the time. Right. So, yeah, we're not going to be as good as we ever were because I don't know about you, but I don't spend a lot of time shooting. I just got done shooting a week ago for the first time in probably six, seven months. And before that was probably a couple years. Yeah. But I'm. Once it's there, it's there. It's just like swimming and walking. You don't forget.

[Magnet]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

May not do it real well again, but it doesn't take long to, you know, to tune it back up.

[Brent]

Okay. What else you got, Drew?

[Drew Tucker]

Dale, do you have any stories about John McPhee? Also, what is your EDC in the U. S? Brent, did you work with Jesse Cinco? He's a good guy.

[Brent]

All right, start it right off the bat. Do you have any stories about John McPhee? He came after you, correct?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Kevin Honan]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

I personally don't know John. I've seen some of his, his presentations. Just, just give it the eye roll and leave it at that. As far as my everyday carry, it's. I usually carry an M 1911. Either a compact Springfield army or I carry my Glock Glock 19. Those are usually my two guns. In the wintertime, I usually carry the Glock 19. In the summertime with a pancake hole, so I carry the M1911.

[Brent]

All right. And then Jesse Cinco. No, we were in different squadrons, so I did, I did not get to work with them. So I've met him at SWAT roundup, but, And I'd love to have him on the show.

[Drew Tucker]

TK Fish story says Dale. Is there a Delta Force legend other Than Brent that you were most impressed with. You look nice today.

[Brent]

Thank you.

[Dale Comstock]

Okay, well, I didn't know Brent. He's after my time. He's junior to me. I'm quite old, believe it or not. You know what? There were guys in the unit that I did look up to. I'm like. And in fact, there was guys in the unit that all of us looked up to and that were pretty good across the board at everything. They could climb, like, spider man. They could shoot. They could run. They could just do it all. Like, damn. You know, it gave us something to aspire to. So, yeah, I don't want to mention names because, again, I protect people's privacy. But even though it would be a compliment, this particular person I'm thinking about actually had a bad run with the law. So I just kind of leave that where that is. But everybody was, like, shocked. Like, man, this guy's amazing. Like, well, he did what? So leave that, that. But we all have heroes. We all have people we look up to, Even me. You know, I. I have people that admire their performance. And I'm like, man, I wish I could be that good, you know, in the unit I was when I was there. Remember Josh Collins? Yeah. Again, before your time. Great boxer. Great, great boxer, man. He was amazing, man. And he asked me one day, we were. I was boxing not as good as him, and he said. He goes, if you want to be a good boxer, he goes, or anything you want to be good at, he goes, emulate somebody else. Just act like them, do the same thing they do. And what he didn't know is I actually copied his style, and I became a really good fighter. And then I kind of incorporated a little bit of Mike Tyson, a little bit of sugar Ray Leonard, you know, and then I came up with, you know, with the Dale version of badass in the ring.

[Brent]

Isn't that the truth, though? On. On a lot of things, whether it be sports and emulating a swing, basketball, emulating a shot. I think that's a. That's a really good and unique skill to have. Not. Not everyone could look at what someone does. They may try to. And if you watched a video of them side by side, you'd be like, you think you're doing this, but you're not doing this. And in a weird way, that really translates a lot to cqb. And if guys at a young age are mentally wired, right, to be able to mimic physically something they see and cat and. And get that real quick, they're the same guys that can watch an instructor dcqb and then mimic him to a high level and then polish it with. With. With reps. But being able to mimic people in sports is. Is a. Is a quality.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. It's called mirroring.

[Brent]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

To mirror someone. Right. So you. You. You may not get it right, but if you. If you watch.

[Brent]

But if you do it enough, you will.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. If you watch a person long enough and you try to emulate them.

[Brent]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

Eventually what happens is, again, it's programming the nervous system, and you will actually tune the system to where you're doing the same thing they're doing. That's kind of what we all did somewhere in life. We.

[Brent]

Right. Absolutely.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

So it's.

[Dale Comstock]

Once you understand that concept, it's always a function of the nervous system. You can program the nervous system. It's wiring.

[Brent]

Magnet does that with Eminem. Is that. Isn't that true with Eminem songs? Yeah, you can. You sound, you know, Slim Shady. You sure? Sure.

[Magnet]

That's not you? Pretty sure.

[Brent]

All right, well.

[Magnet]

But again, it's worth it. It's work ethic, too. You got to be able to work and work and just like you said, putting in reps. Yeah. Like when I did back in my day, it was seven days a week. All I was doing is training, training, training. Seven days a week. Yeah.

[Kevin Honan]

Just.

[Magnet]

You get.

[Brent]

You were black. You were black belt. I'm a secondary black second degree. I'm sorry. Thank you for correcting me.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And that was a past life. And karate. Let's say it, right? If you're gonna say it.

[Magnet]

No.

[Brent]

Who was your sensei?

[Magnet]

Sheen? Robert? Renee.

[Brent]

Okay. Where was your dojo?

[Magnet]

Pine Hills.

[Brent]

I love it all. That's all the buzzwords. I know. What else we got?

[Drew Tucker]

How tight was your ghee?

[Brent]

There you go.

[Drew Tucker]

All right.

[Brent]

Ghee whiz.

[Drew Tucker]

Dr. All right, let's see. I'm not gonna read all this super chat, but most of it.

[Kevin Honan]

Here we go.

[Drew Tucker]

Marky Mark says, Dale, is there such a thing as a girl with a wang, or is it just a man with implants?

[Dale Comstock]

A girl with a wang.

[Drew Tucker]

Is it just a girl with implants

[Dale Comstock]

or a girl with a wang? Yeah. Is a guy.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, There you go. Like. Like you said, he's old school, which is as good as new school.

[Brent]

It says also Tinton Brick by Hert. What a great song. I haven't thought that song forever.

[Drew Tucker]

10 bucks on that one.

[Brent]

All right, all right.

[Drew Tucker]

You. You. All your answers have been very well tonight. Dale. You're doing well. All right. Holy fook, says Dale Glocker Sig. You've already answered that.

[Brent]

Got it.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, here's another one. Sit or stand to pee. Ever pull your taint?

[Dale Comstock]

Where's the last part?

[Drew Tucker]

Have you ever pulled your taint?

[Dale Comstock]

Hold my taint.

[Brent]

I don't like the way you phrase that. As if no one.

[Drew Tucker]

I didn't learn that one in anatomy.

[Brent]

As if no one could ever pull their tank.

[Magnet]

You're the only person I know that has done that.

[Dale Comstock]

Well, first of all, first part of the question is stand.

[Brent]

Okay. I know it's highly debated amongst some circles of men. We'll. We'll say that. Yeah, it's embarrassing. I pulled my tank. Bull riding.

[Magnet]

Wasn't even a real bull.

[Drew Tucker]

Electric bull riding. Okay. Mechanical, mechanical bull right there. It's mechanical.

[Dale Comstock]

Auto.

[Brent]

Mechanical bull. I'm sure there's a more. I'm sure there's a better word for it, but that's. That's where it was pulled.

[Magnet]

Isn't.

[Drew Tucker]

Isn't it just your upper groin?

[Dale Comstock]

Okay, I've never done that.

[Brent]

The upper. Well, pretty sure it's your. Well, I don't. I don't. It's your tank.

[Drew Tucker]

I don't know what that is.

[Brent]

I know where my taint is, and I pulled it.

[Drew Tucker]

The only time I've ever heard taint is in this podcast.

[Brent]

Really?

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

Me too. Yeah.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Drew Tucker]

Never heard of a taint.

[Magnet]

All right.

[Brent]

It's in your. Okay. All right, we'll just leave.

[Drew Tucker]

If it is an upper groin, I've. I've pulled that as well.

[Brent]

It's. Gosh, I'm trying to think of a PG word way to say it. It's. It's in between, you know, your. Your exit and. And your sack. That. That. No man's.

[Drew Tucker]

Oh, wow, that's really up in there.

[Brent]

That's your tank.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah, I know that, man.

[Brent]

It take your sack and it exit it.

[Dale Comstock]

It's a perum. Yeah, yeah, I know what that is.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Magnet]

That's. That's.

[Drew Tucker]

Is that a muscle? Okay. All right. Gus, formerly Lone Star, says, guys, it's 2026. Brit is allowed to identify as a six foot person.

[Brent]

That's true. I. I identify as. As one because I am one. So do I. All right, We're. We're. When the show is over, we're getting out the tape measure and we'll. And we will post pictures. So if you really want to know, go join Patreon. Join Patreon at the Tier one podcast.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Zubi says, in your opinion, what scale of tyranny has to be happening for you to revolt against the government. It's okay for Trump to tell Iranians to get on the streets and fight against that government, but when we do it, it's a terrorist attack or act.

[Brent]

That's. That's a good question. I will let you go first. I have an answer for it, and I'm sure.

[Dale Comstock]

Don't worry, I don't want to get you banned.

[Brent]

My answer is. Sometimes my answer is very similar to yours. So go ahead.

[Dale Comstock]

I think. I think we're tracking. I'll just say this. We're getting close. We've been pretty close, but we're getting closer and closer.

[Brent]

I'd say this. I think our founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves right now that it hasn't happened yet.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I agree. I've been saying it for a while. It's a slow, insidious process what they're doing. Again, we're going back to the thay. Who's eighth? All right. But bottom line is there's a process in play. And what they're doing is slowly luring us into that digital cage so we don't resist. They'll slam the digital cage doors closed, which will be digital currency, and your guns won't matter. Nothing will matter at that point. They got you by the nutsack when it comes to digital currency. You're done. And we're really close. I agree with that.

[Brent]

I agree.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Hey, Dale. Siberian tiger versus Kodiak brown bear. Which one?

[Brent]

Always a good one.

[Drew Tucker]

And what do you think about John the singleton? Never go full retard, McPhee.

[Dale Comstock]

Oh, my God.

[Brent]

Hold on. I got a problem. Why is Dale getting his name spelled right and he's getting some sort of special treatment and my name continues to get spelled wrong. Now that's been a tradition of spelling my name wrong. It goes back a while, but I feel like Dale's getting to pass on this. Or you guys just aren't that creative.

[Magnet]

You're not special.

[Brent]

All right, go ahead.

[Drew Tucker]

Don't use Gail because that's just two. That's just low hanging fruit. You got to get more. More creative.

[Dale Comstock]

Kodiak bear or tiger? Right.

[Brent]

Kodiak brown bear, Siberian target tiger. Those are your choices.

[Dale Comstock]

I'm gonna give it to the tiger.

[Brent]

And. And why. Why the tiger More nimble.

[Dale Comstock]

I think. Armament. Those claws and teeth, bite pressure, agility. I think you'd outperform a bear.

[Drew Tucker]

It's going speed. Going speed.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, Speed.

[Magnet]

What.

[Brent]

What does that and doesn't have anything to do with your. Your, Your Asian living makes you want, makes you want to go tiger.

[Dale Comstock]

No, I've always felt, I've always thought of myself as a tiger.

[Magnet]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

You know, tiger's independent, he's big, bigger than a lion. Powerful, effective hunter. Doesn't have really any enemies.

[Brent]

I'm a. I'm gonna tell you something that is more controversial than you think. Is a zebra white with black stripes or black with white stripes? I got into a heated, heated debate on this.

[Dale Comstock]

I think it's white with black stripes.

[Brent]

I do too. And let me tell you, let me tell you, this person is absolutely wrong. Absolutely convinced. That's the other way around. And the way this person is convinced with her argument has, has something to do with like the, the color of the nose. And you like that color of the nose. If it was like darker, darker skinned animals have a darker pigment nose and their nose always match. And I'm like, except on a zebra. No, I'm not buying it.

[Dale Comstock]

No, sorry. It's real easy. If you look at a zebra, you look at perhaps around the chest, they have wider white spaces.

[Magnet]

I know.

[Brent]

The underbelly. Yeah. You can see the end of the stripe. Yeah, I know, right? I know.

[Drew Tucker]

Like saying a Dalmatians. A. A black dog with, with white on it.

[Dale Comstock]

They're not white dots then.

[Brent]

No, I know people these days.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, good try. All right, let's see. Thereby air says Dale and. Or Brent if he wants. If you were standing over UBL's body and needed to rinse his face for an ID photo and you had a bottle of piss and a bottle of water, which would you use?

[Brent]

Solid question.

[Dale Comstock]

Depends on who's standing, watching me, observing me.

[Magnet]

Right, so Rob o'. Neill.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, that's. Yeah, he's. He's getting the piss bottle of the face. That's just.

[Dale Comstock]

I agree.

[Brent]

That's. That's just appropriate.

[Dale Comstock]

I agree. All right.

[Drew Tucker]

They skipped on me a little bit.

[Brent]

Those hard hitting questions that. Oh, you only get here at the tier one. You said you did a live with Alex Jones, right?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Did you get questions from the audience?

[Dale Comstock]

No.

[Brent]

Okay. Yeah, I guess, I guess he didn't have the confidence in his audience to do that with you. Not here.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, well, it wasn't a live audit, was it?

[Magnet]

Live?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, it was a live show.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

I don't remember.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, Jackson se says heading to Special Forces readiness evaluation in two weeks for 20th group. Any wise words? Also still have those oil field hats to send you from the antihero days if you want them.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah, definitely take some oil field ads that's that's blue collar as it gets. I can, I can sum up for you in three words, and I'll start the first two. And something tells me, Dale, you can finish this quote. Burn the boats. Burn them. Yeah, go all in. Go all in. You'll be just fine.

[Drew Tucker]

Tony Riggs says. Love seeing you two legends together. Dale, how much of a difference would it have been for the Frank Muse rescue operation?

[Brent]

Close enough.

[Drew Tucker]

Was it music?

[Brent]

Kurt Muse. That's okay.

[Drew Tucker]

Oh, Kurt Muse. All right. Rescue operation with today's technology compared to the Maduro rate.

[Brent]

That's actually a really good question. And I, I have, I have my opinion on it, but, man, I'm really interested to hear what you say about this.

[Dale Comstock]

So I had a question like that. After it happened, somebody asked me why. So I wanted to attribute the Maduro rescue to all the technology, right. All the super cool stuff. And I came back and said, no. At the end of the day, it always comes down to the man with the gun on the ground, right? So the operator, um, and, and I. When we compare Modelo prison, kind of the same thing, except we didn't have that kind of technology. You know, we were using the old, older PBS five sixes, things like that, 8.2000s car fifteens, and we pulled that off in six minutes with just as many, if not more bad guys on the target. Right? So, right. We. We did everything. We infiltrated via aircraft undetected. Same thing happened with Maduro. I don't think it's always the technology. Technology is a tool that enhances your capability, but if you start relying on it and it's in the tool breaks or you lose it or whatever happens to it, then what are you going to do? It always comes back to the man on the, on the ground, on the battlefield with the gun. So, yeah, it would have. In Modelo prison, I'm not sure it would have made it that much easier for us or better for. For sure. In Venezuela, they gave them a huge advantage to penetrate as deep as they did with those aircraft.

[Kevin Honan]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

So in that case, it worked for them. It wouldn't have really helped us, I don't think.

[Brent]

I don't think so either.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, we weren't, we weren't threatened by that kind of stuff.

[Brent]

Yeah, everything was super straightforward. You'll see on. In the recording. I mean, half of the recording was just talking about the, that, that rescue mission, which was awesome that you went to that detail with us, but you'll hear it on the recording. But that flight in is, Is crazy. To me, on such a large scale mission. The flight in. How long was the flight in once you went wheels up to wheels down?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. If I correctly remember, is a minute and 34 seconds. I gotta look at my notes. That's crazy.

[Brent]

I don't think I've been on a minute 34 second flight on, on a training exercise. Yeah, that's, that's just, that's wild.

[Dale Comstock]

We went wheels up from Howard Air Force Base. Yeah. Three. And we flew across the Bridge of Americas, over the Canal Bridge of Americas and then through the saddle on Ancon Hill. And as soon as we swooped through that saddle, we were over the top of the prison.

[Brent]

That's not even enough time to get nervous,

[Dale Comstock]

but it was enough time for me and my partner to switch weapons in flight, you know, and tune them up.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

Yep.

[Brent]

You'll have to hear that story on the recording. That, that, that story is both kind of wild. But you, you're. But you were right at the. At the same time.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

That was awesome. All right, what else we got, Drew?

[Drew Tucker]

Oh, let's see. Braden Medlin says.

[Magnet]

Say it right.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, buddy.

[Brent]

There it is.

[Drew Tucker]

All right.

[Brent]

Holy fook.

[Drew Tucker]

FYI, I can't buy a super chat more than $2.

[Brent]

Oh, no. Has. Has your wife gone into the settings and limited?

[Kevin Honan]

You

[Magnet]

all right?

[Drew Tucker]

He's in timeout at 27d force. John McPhee said he started the unit combatics grabbed TK. Another lie. Yeah. Tim Kennedy was a legit top UFC fighter and grenade thrower.

[Brent]

He was. He was one of those.

[Drew Tucker]

Speaking of grenade throwers, go to FRCC shop for a brand new good looking torch. It's very cool.

[Brent]

If you need. If you need 50 for a bag of grenades, we got them.

[Dale Comstock]

Hey, since we're on that topic real quick, I want to address that because Trek McVie did not start the hand to hand program. I already know who started it was. I say his first name. His name was Art. There were a couple other guys, including me, that actually started that program. I was the primary instructor for several years running that program. Shrek McVie wasn't even, wasn't even anybody's dream at that time. Nobody even knew who Shrek McVie was. He came long after I had left the organization. So if that's what he's saying, he's full of shit.

[Brent]

I got a question for you. In the time you were there and. Because I don't. Oh, you did. You were in the old building. Yeah, yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

You started off in the stockade.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah. Did you guys have a Combatives room or just like a. A maps in. In a large area.

[Dale Comstock]

Talking about an otc?

[Brent]

No, just. No, just the combatives area.

[Dale Comstock]

Oh yeah.

[Brent]

A combative. A singular room.

[Dale Comstock]

No, each squadron hat up in the bay.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

Had its own.

[Brent]

All right, that. That's still. So you had to go to each squadron to. To run the. The program because each. Each squadron.

[Dale Comstock]

No, no. I ran the program for otc. So.

[Brent]

Okay. Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

So that was in their. In their bay.

[Brent]

You still might. Might know this though. And your time there. Did you ever hear of guys get in arguments and settling it in the combatives room?

[Dale Comstock]

Never heard of that. But I did that to my kids when they argued. Put them out in the garage. Tell the glove up son and daughter. So you got an argument. Might get some training out of it while you at it. Right?

[Brent]

I love it. I love it. All right.

[Magnet]

Have to. Did they have to sign a waiver?

[Drew Tucker]

Good timber says tried to do a bigger chat but it won't let me.

[Brent]

Son of a gun.

[Drew Tucker]

Dang it. Jumped on me. Here we go. All right. Thereby air says Dale. Andor Nope. Already did that one. That's the one I skipped. Good timber. Figured it out. Says song to build a mountain by Crowbar.

[Brent]

I haven't heard that song.

[Dale Comstock]

999.

[Drew Tucker]

Holy fook. Says make sure Brent takes off his shoes before checking height. It's getting serious.

[Brent]

I will. I will not do it.

[Dale Comstock]

No serious.

[Brent]

Because I wear shoes when I meet people and that is my height. Okay.

[Magnet]

That's it.

[Kevin Honan]

That's it.

[Brent]

And I'm not gonna put boots on.

[Magnet]

He's got high heels on though right now.

[Brent]

But you know what? I'll. I'll give you. I'll give you both. I'll give you both.

[Drew Tucker]

Bacon forged says Dale. Any good long walk stories? Also Wednesday nights are also for the Patriots. Don't forget to hit that dead gum like button.

[Brent]

Thank you. Bacon forged.

[Drew Tucker]

Any good long walk stories?

[Brent]

Man just told one. The Dale in the garage. Yeah, it was long. It was long.

[Dale Comstock]

It was a lot of walking, running and rolling and falling and sitting. Actually not a lot of sitting. I only sat. I literally only never even sat. I stopped one time for a minute, 30 seconds to pull MRE out of my cargo pocket and eat it. Yeah, I stopped three hours later to it out for about two minutes and 30 seconds. So I stopped for a total of about four minutes the entire time.

[Brent]

I. I love it. Did you or that you know of anyone in your class run into to the wildlife? Every now and again we get a bear sighting.

[Dale Comstock]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Deer. There was a guy that was funny, right? Not trying to be racial. Nothing. Black guy, really funny guy. And he actually fell into a huge hole because a deer jumped up, scared him. He wasn't ready for it. He falls back into this hole and couldn't get out. Team out to go find a guy

[Brent]

that'll slow you down.

[Dale Comstock]

I messed up his whole run.

[Magnet]

When you got up to the top of the mountain, did you roll down?

[Dale Comstock]

No, but I did run. I. I use your foot. You know, I actually, I walked up hills, I shuffled on flat terrain and I would run down here.

[Brent]

That's, that's, that's exactly what I would do.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Johnny C. Says. C69 says. I can't believe how many people are okay with flock cameras.

[Dale Comstock]

Oh, man.

[Brent]

You know, all right, so I. One of our patreons is a law enforcement in Texas and he, he wrote me after our flock camera conversation and he's not wrong. But my concern is. My concern isn't really isn't about flock cameras right now. My concern is about technology and what, what they'll do. What starts out with good intentions and what they'll do with it. But as of right now, flock cameras are only license plate readers and they don't record every single license plate. They have a. As. As he was telling me. I hope I got it right. They have a list of criminal plates, whether it be and child kidnapping, pedos PDFs, I think YouTube will let me say. And they have been attributed to stopping a lot of crime. And that's a good thing. And as of right now, I don't have a problem with. With flock cameras because they're getting results and results like that. My concern is to make sure that it stays with its intended purpose. And I, I get, I get the other side. The other side will say, well, how do you. Just because they told you that. How do you know that's all they're doing with that information for now?

[Magnet]

That's all they're doing for now.

[Brent]

That's. That's a. Val. It's a valid question, but I, I sometimes I hate that. That argument. It's not a bad argument, but some people will use that argument with everything. And you can't use that. Well, how do you know? You know, it could be a history argument. You know, whatever you want to say. I'm. Make one up. You know, about Grant and this is a little bit easier, but you know, Grant was, was a general and the. In the Civil War and, and he was a Good. How do you know? How can. How do you know anything in history can be true? We start questioning everything that's. That's nauseous. Knock it off. Yeah, but some things are straightforward.

[Magnet]

Give them an inch, they're going to

[Dale Comstock]

take a mile, I think. Yeah, I know.

[Brent]

That's what I'm worried about.

[Dale Comstock]

It's more than just the flock cameras because they're. They're already talking. In fact, I thought they just rounded up a shooter the other day. And they use actual several things. Microphones, flock camera, and something else to, to pick this guy up. But eventually it'll be integrated with all the system surveillance systems out there, including your car. It's going to be ratting you out if you're driving too fast or it thinks you're goofy and drunk. You're right.

[Kevin Honan]

That's.

[Dale Comstock]

Those.

[Brent]

Those are my concerns. Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

And then so, for example, I don't know if you've ever been to Dubai, but go to Dubai one day, you'll never see a cop anywhere. And you're like, but it's one of the safest cities in the world now. You can like, literally leave your laptop sitting on your. On your front seat, your car with a window down, if so choose. And nobody will steal it because the consequences are severe. However, there's a lot of CCTV camera there. In fact, even out in the desert, if you think you're in the desert, you can drive 100 miles an hour. And who's going to know? Yeah, they're going to know because they got cameras in the desert. How do I know that? Because I went to the airport and had to pay a $500 speeding I wasn't aware of before they let me get on the airplane.

[Brent]

In the desert?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

Oh, my God.

[Brent]

Like, yeah.

[Drew Tucker]

Gosh.

[Brent]

What's the speed limit in the desert? Do they have signs?

[Dale Comstock]

Dude? Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

And so it's like driving through somewhere in Arizona. And yeah, they got. They got stuff everywhere. But the thing is, they've got cameras everywhere. No cops. And the other thing they have is an informant system. So everybody becomes an informant. Right, so. And how does that work? Well, look, if you rat out your neighbor for doing this, you kind of get a blue chip. So if you ever screw up, you know, your punishment won't be as severe or we'll let you off the hook. I, you know, I know that because I was. The first night I got there years ago. I went out with some friends, some girls, just, you know, bullshitting at the bar. Within 30 minutes, the dude walks up to Me, taps me on my shoulder. And he goes, what are you doing here? What do you mean, what I'm doing? I'm here visiting. And. And he goes, huh? He goes, no, well, what are you doing here? And I said, I'm just sitting here at the bar with these people and chilling my book and blah, blah. And he goes, that's interesting. He goes, well, listen. He goes, here's my card. Call me tomorrow and let's have lunch. And I said, who are you? He goes, well, I'm with immigration services. And I'm like, oh, right. I said, yeah, sure. Where are we gonna meet? I'll be there, See? And of course, I never called the guy, but they're watching every move everywhere. And. And if. And if everybody's an informant, you can't trust anybody.

[Brent]

I know, right?

[Dale Comstock]

And this is where we're kind of going here is at what point do we stop trusting each other? I mean, you shouldn't trust everybody 100. But man, when you still paranoid, I think everybody's gonna rat you out. This happened in the military too, by the way, you know, and you can. I think you'll appreciate this. So in the military, in the wars, for example, I remember on one objective, we had squirters coming off the targets, right? And they were runners, they were squirters, they were combatants. We just had a shootout. They're running down the hill. I'm getting ready to let the air out of them because I can't run that fast. And so guy nudges me go, hey, don't do that. I go, what? He goes up there. He reminded me, the ISR birds flying around. Ah, yeah, I popped these dudes. Then, you know, it's going to be all over the place. Other news. And the problem was the bad guys had learned that and what they would do after a hit, right? They. We didn't pick the bodies up, we just left. And what they would do is arrange the bodies and make them look like they were praying on the rug. And they sprinkled brass all around them like, you know, they were doing them a praying, right? And then that make a big deal out of it. They go to the news and then all of a sudden, guess who's paying? You know, this. This quiet. The hush money, right? The US Government to keep them quiet so you learn how to game the system. But the problem was not only did we had to worry about things like isr, but you had to worry about the guy next to you telling you, right? Because they did that. The. The whole thing about interrogations and crap. You know, suddenly you can even trust the guy to your left and right because you're, like, not sure if he's, you know, if he's going to. If he's some kind of do good or whatever and he's going to rat you out.

[Magnet]

Here's.

[Brent]

Here's. Here's the devil's advocate. Just real quick.

[Magnet]

And.

[Brent]

And as we start this, don't get me wrong, I actually don't think we should have most of these either, but. So you don't want flock cameras. Okay, well, we have red light cameras. Besides the stupid tickets, which I really don't agree with, Red light cameras have cleaned up a lot of who's at fault accidents. Oh, you don't like that we have cameras at ATM machines. I bet some people prefer a camera at an ATM machine. We caught a lot of bad guys because of that cctv. There's cameras everywhere. And if you want to be upset about flock cameras, well, we're. Well, then where do you stop? So should we have. So if we can't, then. Then the. The argument is really this. Then you tell me what's an acceptable camera and what's not an acceptable, acceptable camera, because you haven't said a word about cameras for the most part until these flock cameras. So be consistent. And that's a. That's a valid argument.

[Dale Comstock]

That is. But the other thing you have to consider is we're. We're reaching another level of technology right now. We're talking about flock cameras integrated with all other systems. Surveillance systems. It's mass surveillance. And, you know, the. The notion that the government might abuse that is very real. And so that's the concern, I think, you know, I would. I'm happy with the camera at the ATM machine. So if I get bonked over the head withdrawing money, we catch the guy doing it. But I don't want cameras being used to try to implicate me in something I didn't do or because I was in the area. So right away, I'm a suspect. And moreover, I don't want the government tracking my every move, which they already do, by the way.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah. You know, if you got a cell phone on you, I mean.

[Magnet]

Right.

[Drew Tucker]

They already got it.

[Brent]

No one's come. No one's putting up a huge, you know, hissy fit about their phones because

[Dale Comstock]

most people don't even know. They don't even realize what's going on. Completely oblivious to it.

[Brent]

All right, that's Kevin. What you thinking? You thinking something over there?

[Kevin Honan]

Well, that circles back to what we were saying in the car. And to drive up, you know, you can have a scalpel, for example, and a doctor can use it to save a life, and somebody with ill intentions can use it to take a life. So circling back also to what you said with regards to your different times in Delta Force, a good craftsman doesn't blame their tools. You know, it's how you decide to use it. And I think the underpinning principle that governs all of that comes back to free speech and being able to have open discourse so that we can debate and talk about these things and arrive at what might seem like the best conclusions. And that's probably the most important thing that we can do to try and navigate this very turbulent time that might be coming up with all these radically changing technologies. Yeah.

[Brent]

Drew.

[Drew Tucker]

Yo.

[Brent]

Can you add subtitles? When he talks? I can't understand it.

[Drew Tucker]

I heard every word he said. It sounded pretty good to me.

[Brent]

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

[Kevin Honan]

Screw you guys.

[Dale Comstock]

I'm going home.

[Brent]

I could easily say. But something tells me when you get Kevin, when you get back home, tell me your accent doesn't get super thick the more you drink to almost to a point where you can't. Where I may not be able to understand.

[Kevin Honan]

I gotta tell you, if you heard the dialect of where I come from, you would not understand.

[Brent]

I would love it. Yeah. Absolutely not. All right, maybe later on, feel free to. To give us a sample of it.

[Kevin Honan]

I will.

[Drew Tucker]

There you go. I love it. I love it.

[Dale Comstock]

All right, well. Oh, in fact, I need to speak

[Magnet]

in that so that I'll sound more intelligent.

[Drew Tucker]

You guys will leave me alone.

[Magnet]

I know.

[Drew Tucker]

Because he sounded smarter than all of

[Brent]

us on the road.

[Magnet]

Yeah. Nice.

[Brent]

Yeah, I agree with that. What do you want to do? It's 9:20. You want to go to halftime? You want to read a few more? What say you?

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah, we're doing halftime.

[Brent]

All right, let's. Let's do it. We'll be right back. Don't leave. We got more with Dale Comstock. We are more than makers of steel.

[Dale Comstock]

We are brothers in craft, bound by purpose and forged in pride. Every blade we shape carries the weight

[Brent]

of the hands that built it and the hearts that will wield it. Brotherhood Blade stands for those who refuse to quit.

[Dale Comstock]

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[Brent]

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[Drew Tucker]

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[Brent]

Go wide.

[Drew Tucker]

Oh, where did we go, Dale?

[Magnet]

Whoa.

[Drew Tucker]

I think the rapture happened.

[Dale Comstock]

Brent.

[Brent]

We run a tight ship around here. Drew, you run a tight chip.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Hey, this is current in the news. In fact, you know, we. We've been talking about this, me and Dale, and it has to do with the pendulum swinging back to. Back to common sense and to see. I don't. Drew, I don't know. Do you keep up with the wnba?

[Dale Comstock]

All right.

[Kevin Honan]

Yeah.

[Brent]

All right. This has been. This has been world news.

[Drew Tucker]

And.

[Brent]

And it really has been. Actually. Sophie Cunningham, Caitlin Clark's teammate, came out and apparently made a wild statement that ruffled some feathers, and she said she wants to protect young women and doesn't believe transgenders belong playing in women's sports.

[Drew Tucker]

Good for her.

[Brent]

I know that's to us and everyone listening and to almost into almost every American.

[Drew Tucker]

They're like all rational human beings.

[Brent]

Yeah. But the media and certain people within the media have absolutely lost it. And it's shown how much they have lost touch with the American people and reality.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And. And if you really think about it, you know, the. I'll never understand why, but the LGT elemento p divided by PI organization has really latched on, you know, to the transgender movement. And most of the WNBA is filled with lesbians. And so that's going to put them at odd. It's going to put her at odd with a lot of. Of her co workers and other players, which, again, really shows how out of touch the WNBA is with society. But. But good for her for speaking out.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And she said, hey, this has nothing to do with hate. Just because I'm pro protecting girls in sports doesn't mean that I hate transgenders. And that's where they really miss the boat on this.

[Dale Comstock]

And.

[Brent]

But they don't care how eloquent and nice she said it and how it's not a hate thing. They're. They're losing their minds over it. But good on you, Sophie Cunningham.

[Drew Tucker]

Brandon, man. But you know what? If they miss the boat on it, I'll be happy to send them another boat and so they can go somewhere else. They could live somewhere else.

[Brent]

All right.

[Dale Comstock]

He's gonna get you banned.

[Brent]

You're off the hook, Dale. It's on him now. It's on him now.

[Dale Comstock]

Blaming him.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah.

[Brent]

All right, let's go. What else we got in super chats, drew?

[Drew Tucker]

All right. M24 says, Dale Brent, you get dropped into any war in human history with modern kit.

[Brent]

Oh, I love these questions.

[Drew Tucker]

What are you guys go. Going to and why?

[Brent]

Oh, it's. It's such a good question. All right, I'll tell you my rationale. Why this is such a hard question. Because naturally you'd probably want to go to something like the Revolutionary War because where technology just absolutely has its most. Or World War I or 2. Right. Because where technology is just how will do its most damage. But I would, I would push back on that and say, well, we won those wars, so you're not going to make a difference. And yes, you know, you might even say, well, one person is going to make a difference anyway. But that's, that's why that's such a hard question for me. And you go into Vietnam, but Vietnam, I mean, you're gonna. You're gonna kill a bunch of gooks, but you're not gonna. You're not gonna change the outcome of it. So it's a really hard question. What you can do is I believe you could save men's lives by. By doing that. And that would, that would be worth it. I don't know. Where's your mind on that question? What are you thinking?

[Dale Comstock]

Battle, Little Bighorn.

[Brent]

That. That you could. That you might be able to. And. And here's. And if you know, if you know where you're going, then I'm gonna go ahead and say. Then you can. Then you can select your weapon. You don't have to pre. Do it. And then go there you go to Little Bighorn. What do you. What are you carrying? I really feel it's kind of only one answer to, to sway that. What are you taking?

[Dale Comstock]

Probably had 240 Golf.

[Brent]

I. I was thinking 240. 240, which would change that battle all together. I was just watching a history lesson on pbs.

[Dale Comstock]

Four Night scopes. Yeah, we're going to take this into the night.

[Brent]

All right. There you go. Good question.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. And even better questions. Good.

[Brent]

All right.

[Kevin Honan]

Sorry.

[Brent]

Now the Gosh, I don't know, because now you're messing with history. Then I was. You had me thinking that time frame. I was like, alamo, let's, let's. Let's save those boys. Right? But the Alamo ended up being such a. A rallying and battle cry later that really turned. Turned, you know, possibly turn the tie with emotions. You go back and win that. I don't know if you have a similar outcome anyway, just craziness.

[Drew Tucker]

Sanchez, the Mexican. You didn't have to put the second part on. We figured that out first.

[Brent]

A little redundant, but okay.

[Drew Tucker]

You will, you will you. Okay. Would you rather fight a hundred small cats or one giant praying mantis?

[Dale Comstock]

Do we get a weapon?

[Drew Tucker]

Is the praying mantis male or female?

[Brent]

No, we're going bare hands with this. Bare hands.

[Dale Comstock]

I think cats.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah.

[Drew Tucker]

They're already small. So if it's a small cat, my goodness, that's got to be really small.

[Brent]

Yeah, I'm. I think I can kick and punch the crap out of a hundred cats.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Pretty quick you're gonna get some scratches because there's a hundred of them. But you're gonna lift. You're gonna live through that.

[Dale Comstock]

You grab two of them by their tails. You use them at baseball.

[Drew Tucker]

Are they.

[Magnet]

Are they on anything like speed?

[Brent]

I don't think cats need anything to. To be other. They're pretty quick as. As. As it is.

[Magnet]

I just watched something about Mary last night, and they gave that dog speed at that one part.

[Dale Comstock]

Oh, yeah, the dog attacked him.

[Brent]

All right, what do you got, Drew?

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Benjamin Wentz says, Dale, do you believe was Kurt Muse a CIA asset?

[Dale Comstock]

Yes, I do believe that.

[Kevin Honan]

All right.

[Dale Comstock]

He pretty much alluded to that without actually coming out and saying it. For example. So he's a businessman in Panama, Panama City, Panama, and just decides he wants to start a Rotary club. But he does admit in his interview that he went to Miami and the CIA gave him some used radio equipment. Yeah, right. And he brought that back down to Panama and he was just a Rotary club, yet he's the guy running SIGINT and intercept on. On Noriega. So he was at least had the CIA giving him stuff. And it's pretty. I think it's pretty much common belief that he was working for them in a non official cover.

[Drew Tucker]

Gooch Parmesan says, Dale, glad to see you doing well. You were in the unit when my old man was there. B squadron guy, Jimmy M. Call sign Raging Cajun.

[Dale Comstock]

I remember Raging Cajun.

[Brent]

Yeah, I love it.

[Drew Tucker]

Nice. Yeah, that's his old man.

[Dale Comstock]

Awesome. Very cool.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. The third coast cowboy. Dale, can we get a Billy Wall story?

[Dale Comstock]

Oh, man. Yeah. And I've said this one before, so I don't have a problem putting this out there. So I. When I got recruited, so to speak, for this other government agency, I ended up going up north, stayed in a hotel. I Had an interview the next day, actually a polygraph. And I get a knock on the door in my hotel room and it's Billy. Wa was not expecting that. And he came in and basically told me, hey, tomorrow this is what you're going to do. Just do you and not a big deal, you'll be good to go. So I, okay, so I go to this place at the appointed point of time, actually really early in the morning. Be there by whatever, 0700, don't be late. Roger that. I'm the only guy out there in the parking lot. And I decided, well let me just go up to the door at 6:45 so I won't be late. And the door's locked, nobody's in there. There's no other cars in the parking lot. I'm going, that's interesting. So I go back, I wait in the car, I'm watching the door, nobody's going in, nobody's unlocking the door. I'm waiting and wait. It's like 7:20 now, 7:30, I get a phone call, it's Billy Wall. Where the hell are you? What are you doing? What are you talking about? I'm at the place you told me to. I said the door's locked, nobody unlocked it. I said, I've been watching the door, I'm waiting. He goes, they're waiting on you. Get in there right now. And I go, what? Sure as man. I walk up the door, it's unlocked. I'm like, how the hell did they do that? And I never even saw them. Right? This was the craziest part. And I'm like, okay. And I walk in and I was being polygraphed is what was happening. And okay, like what? I won't go in that experience. That was just a crazy ass experience. Yeah, I gotta be careful on that one. But yeah.

[Brent]

Not to give any secrets about how you passed it.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, exactly. Well there's. You don't even know how. I don't even know how I passed it.

[Brent]

That's what I said.

[Drew Tucker]

Right?

[Dale Comstock]

The craziest part. I had a falling out with the dude. Let's not call it interview. It's like an interrogation, right?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

And I'm hooked up to all kinds of freaking wires. And then I was pissed because it, it turned in from, from the interview to like almost combative man. Like we're going back and now we're, we're challenging each other on our knowledge of psychology, right? It's like this wasn't what it was intended to be, but it got really personal. And then was all over. He goes, okay, I'm done with you. And I'm like, okay. And I'm standing in front of the desk. He won't even look at me. He goes, you didn't do too good today. I said, you know what? I don't even give a. I. I didn't even ask for this job. I know. What. Whatever. Yeah, you know, thank you. Bye. And I left. And I. So I go all the way back home for brag, and I'm, like, a little mentally exhausted. I walk into my house. I walk right into my bedroom, and I got a computer in there. I just jumped right on the computer. Look at him. My wife walks in. She goes, what are you doing? She's looking over my shoulder because I don't think I even kissed her while I walked. I just walked right past. I was like, I'm gonna find out what just happened to me. And so I go in there, and I'm on the computer, and I pull up, ready for this antipolygraph.org right? And she goes, what are you doing? Should you be doing that? I'm like, why not, right? She goes, don't think they're watching you. I go, pull them up, watching me. And I said, I just want it. She goes, why are you doing it? I said, I want to know what just happened to me. Right? Yeah. And so then the next day, I get a call. You're good to go. And I'm like, really?

[Magnet]

Really?

[Dale Comstock]

Right. And then nothing happened for a long time. Like, weeks. Like, maybe six weeks. Get another call. You didn't do so well.

[Brent]

Which one is it?

[Dale Comstock]

Like, what?

[Brent]

Yeah. Yeah, you.

[Dale Comstock]

One problem, one question. We need to come back up here, do it again.

[Drew Tucker]

I think they're fishing.

[Dale Comstock]

And I'm like, you know what? Son of a. I said, dude, how bad do I really want to do this?

[Magnet]

Right?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

I said, okay. It was a weekend, too. So I go back up there, the whole process again, but this time, the doors are locked. That's interesting. And I walk in. It's a completely different guy. He's all happy to see me. He's not being hostile, combative. I give me a hard time, Sits me down because, what'd you think about the last interview? And I was. Now I'm mad, right? And I looked at him, just stared in his eye, going, I didn't like it, right? He's like, I don't. I don't blame you. You know, these are pretty. You know, these are pretty tough, you know, and pretty stressful. And he Goes, let me ask you a question. Sure, sure. Did you go home and go to anapolygraph.org Son of a. I was like, what? I you not. I you not.

[Brent]

Oh, that's funny.

[Dale Comstock]

And I'm like, now I'm processing this information real fast. I could, do I lie or tell the truth? I mean, after all I said it, you didn't care anyways. Tell them the truth. Yeah, I would. I did. And I'm. I'm wondering what's going to happen next. So I'm getting a little rebellious, like. Yeah, so what I did. He goes, that's good. He goes, I wouldn't expect you to take a test without studying. He goes, you're the first guy, last 10 that would actually admit that. I go, yeah, that's right. That's right. Right. And. And he never even. I never even got hooked up. He just asked me a question. He goes, you got a problem with this question, what say you? I said, I didn't have a problem with that question. I said, this is my answer. That's it.

[Brent]

Yeah. He goes, okay, you're good.

[Dale Comstock]

I go, that's it. I said, that is it.

[Drew Tucker]

It's mostly psychological.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

And I walked out of there and I'm like, okay, yeah, no, it's like. Then I started thinking, are they really watching me? Yeah. But he nailed it.

[Drew Tucker]

Yep.

[Brent]

Lucky guess.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I think so too, but yeah.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Holy fook says this is a good question. Your guys thoughts on DJ Shipley's message about doing anything to stop the invasion of certain folks, like, we don't know who it is. And to the U. S.

[Brent]

He's talking about Muslims. I saw, I saw it.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah, I saw it.

[Brent]

Yeah, it was a solid.

[Drew Tucker]

It was a solid video.

[Brent]

It was a solid video. And he's right. And I. We said it on this podcast many of times.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Islam and the Constitution and the values of the United States of America cannot coexist.

[Dale Comstock]

You know, there's another, another aspect to this too, that people need to think about. So right now, in order for any race of people to sustain their numbers, their population, they need a reproduction rate of at least, I think, 1.8.

[Kevin Honan]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

And we are. When I say we, I'm talking about particularly Caucasians. Right now we're at 1.2. We're going extinct. We're only about 7% of the world's population. And but, and so before everybody calls me a racist, my wife is sitting outside, she's in need, and oh yeah, she's Muslim. So not all Muslims are The same. I'll say that she's probably the worst Muslim in the world because she smokes fingernail polish, her boobs are hanging out, she's got a butts hanging out. She's, she's, she's not what you would think of a Muslim. In fact, most Muslims in Indonesia are not like that at all. Completely different and from what I call Middle Eastern Muslims. But here's the problem, right? They're reproducing at a rate of 8.4 I believe. So they're the fastest growing religion and demographic and let's just call it what it is, political, political culture growing in the world. They're going to soon outnumber everybody. And, and by the way, I think it was a Massachusetts governor that just said she's going to create a, an 11 person panel of all Muslims to represent, to be representative of their population in the Massachusetts government. So we're already handing sovereignty off to a cult. I don't consider it a religion. I don't believe in really religions anyway, so much so because it's written by man. But ultimately you're right, Islam is counter, it's counter to our, our constitution and our values. And we should, we should stop that crap now. But it's not because. It's not because we're just allowing it. It's because people on top are promoting it, they're pushing it, they're allowing it on purpose. They're allowing it. And to what end? The, basically the dissolution of the West. This is, this is what, this all. And it goes right back to the earlier conversation we had about One World Government. You know, the, the controllers on the top, they want to manage and control everything. And the best way to do that is to upend civilization, cause internal strife and rift. That's I think where we're going. And I don't have a problem with Muslims. Some of my best friends are Muslims, my family's Muslim. But they're, There is a difference. It's nuanced. Yeah, we can go and talk about the Quran, but we can also talk about the Bible if we want to point out negatives. It's not, it's not the religion that matters so much. It's the mindset I believe, the philosophy that they support. And so I have to be kind of careful how I address that because half my family by default turns out to be Indonesian. I'm actually Roman Catholic. Imagine. Imagine that. Right. So. And I get along fine, particularly in Indonesia with the Muslims. There's no, there's no problems there like there's here, nobody cares about your religion. They don't care about anything. All they care about is their own rice bowl and getting ahead in life and, and living and being happy. They, they. There's no intent on their part to dominate anybody. They don't care. They don't try to convert me or anybody else that I know of. So we got to keep that in context as well. And I'm not trying to defend all of Islam. I'm trying to. I'm. Because I'm, as everybody else, I am very against integrating that culture into ours because it is incompatible. You know, if they can, they can practice the religion to a degree. What I mean by that is, you know, we're not going to have, you know, a Sharia law. They don't get their own court system here. They abide by the one that we've established as part of our culture. That's the way it should be. And you either, you either merge with our, our culture, become a part of it and not bring in your crap and try to change our culture into yours. If your culture is so great, stay in your country. Don't come over here and try to corrupt ours. And that's how I look at it.

[Brent]

So, and as always, if we just, if we just, if we just talk about things on the surface level, my short little bit abrasive answer is different than yours, but without with you giving a little bit of pushback and then not immediately calling you names and letting you finish your thought and describe your stance and why you believe what you believe, you know, what ends up happening at the end, we actually find ourselves a lot more aligned than different if we just talk about it and listen. And here's, here's. And I've said it before, and I'll say it again, because not everyone listens to every show. We've gotten to a point where we agree on 95 of the things and we disagree on 5%. And so if we disagree on 5%, somehow you're 100 my enemy.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

When you're actually 95, my friend. Because we agree on 95 of the things. We just let these few emotional subjects just rip us apart when it. That's just. I think that's insane to me. It's insane.

[Dale Comstock]

And if you, if you want to contextualize a little bit more. Right. So it's, it's really easy. Easy to label Islam bad in America bad. Okay, so be. And I caution people, I don't agree with Islam. I don't believe that religion. I think it is bad for us, however, to label every Muslim as the bad guy because they. Maybe they read the Quran or. But just there, that's the religion they were born into, doesn't make them bad. You know why? Because I've got. I've got soldiers, Afghan soldiers, and others that have laid down lead for me and have guarded me with their own lives to protect me. And they've been very loyal. They've been. They've been warriors, have been brothers. So you can't just say if you're a Muslim, you're bad. We have to make sure that we're more specific. Which ones are we talking about? And I think we're in all in agreement. We're talking about the. The Islamic extremists that are in our country trying to upend our government, our ways of life, and yelling and telling us how they're going to dominate us and we don't have a choice. That's a problem. That's a problem that should be a problem for everybody. But it's just like saying that, you know, all black people are, whatever, bad. What? That's not true at all. Right? We know that. And even black people will call out their own. Their own race, go, yeah, these guys are all jacked up, right? They shouldn't be doing this. And there's the same thing with Islam. There's a lot of Muslims that are going, no, this is bs this is not Islam. You don't represent us like that. So there's good and bad, right? And we need to be able to discriminate and, and remain objective rather than subjective and understand that there's good and bad in, in every culture, even Christianity. Right? And I'm not here to debate people's religion or challenge it, but if you're honest, you. You can read in the Bible, for example, there are things in there that's like, that's a little dark, and it's not much different from what's in the Quran. So we can all find things that we don't agree with. At the end of the day, you know, it's really a question of can we all just get along, live together and, and live. If this is our country, and I say our country, as Americans, we fought for it. All right? My parents, my father fought for it. My son's fighting for it. My sister fought for it. You know, we've got skin in the game. I think we have a right to. To defend our country, to protect our values, defend our constitution. Just like if you go in any other country, you can't go in and up in their country. Try going. Try going to Indonesia and tell them we're going to do it my way, an American way. I'm going to. No, that's not going to happen. They're going to put you on the first thing smoking. If they don't throw you in jail first, out of the country, you'll never come back. Nobody else in the world tolerates what we tolerate here. Nobody I've lived in, traveled to or worked in over 101 countries. And nobody is as generous as Americans. And that's true.

[Brent]

Nobody undebatable. Not even close.

[Dale Comstock]

Absolutely. And racism, man, I got. I can go on with that all day long. We are probably the least racist country. Country in the world. Hands up. If we were so racist, why are all these minorities and ethnic groups trying to come to our country? Because it's. They know it's not true.

[Drew Tucker]

That's it. It's good talk, man. It's good. Good stuff.

[Brent]

He ain't wrong.

[Drew Tucker]

Good timber says another 4.99 for crowbar since Brent's never heard it, and that's just wrong.

[Brent]

Okay. All right.

[Drew Tucker]

Figured.05W says, Enjoying the life. I have a question that may have been asked before, but did you know any of the guys on the Venezuela operation? And can any squadron do that just as good as a squadron that was picked? Thanks.

[Brent]

It's. It's funny. Something tells me you have the same history with this. Doesn't matter how long you were there. It doesn't matter what position. You were there when you left. When. When you leave. It's. It's severed. It's. It's a black hole of information. And it is. There's. I mean, there's some things. I'm telling you. It's. It's few. It's few.

[Dale Comstock]

I can partially answer that question about can any squadron do the job?

[Brent]

I know your answer. Go ahead.

[Dale Comstock]

You know, every. Remember, every squadron has its own personality.

[Brent]

That is correct.

[Dale Comstock]

Right, Right. And it's still true. It's always true. But can they all do the same job? I would argue some are better than others because it depends on what their mission focus is. What do they spend the most time focusing on? Right.

[Brent]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

So I. I can leave it at that.

[Brent]

And they would have all got the equal chance to train up for it because that. That other squadron got a chance to train up for it. So could any. Could any squadron do that mission?

[Dale Comstock]

Probably, I think if they trained up for it, sure.

[Magnet]

Absolutely.

[Dale Comstock]

I saw it went out in my tenure there, you know.

[Brent]

Absolutely.

[Dale Comstock]

I saw the commander select the squadron he wanted because he paid attention to what the squadrons were focusing on as far as their. Their metal tasks and their training. Right, Go. You know what? You guys have really worked hard at this. You've got the best SOPs. You're going first.

[Brent]

All right, There you go.

[Drew Tucker]

Holy folk says Brent, do you ever put lifts in your shoes?

[Brent]

Brent Dale, when did this become a hate type episode?

[Drew Tucker]

It started in Patreon, if you're missing out, but you know you need to join Patreon. Brent Dale, have you ever had to go on a mission under a disguise?

[Dale Comstock]

I have.

[Brent]

Oh, that's a. That's a good question. I. I have.

[Dale Comstock]

Me too.

[Brent]

There you go. That's about all you get from me.

[Dale Comstock]

I can get. I'll take a little bit further on that one. I've done it. I've gone and impersonated terrorists, literally. Crazy part is, in my civilian capacity, some of the things that I'm involved in and have done actually included my wife, who also wore disguises. Not because she's an active operator or nothing like that, but she definitely played a role in surveillance. Counter surveillance stuff. So, yeah, using disguises. That's. Man, I can really make myself look old. I mean, if I look old now, I can make myself really old. That's not hard to do, but sometimes that's what's required, depending on what you're doing. I've done it all day long. No problem.

[Drew Tucker]

Gus, formerly lone star, has a very serious question for you boys. Dally. Well, it's just for dad.

[Brent]

There we go. All right.

[Drew Tucker]

Nice. Unlimited. Here it is. Which one you want? Unlimited stakes for life, but can't shoot anymore. Or unlimited bullets, but gotta go vegan.

[Brent]

Dun, dun, dun.

[Dale Comstock]

I'm taking the steaks, man.

[Drew Tucker]

I know.

[Brent]

I'm taking the steaks. I am. I'm addicted to red meat steaks.

[Dale Comstock]

I need a shit. Shoot people anymore. I can just run you over, tell

[Drew Tucker]

you give all my bullets to my wife. Yeah.

[Brent]

I could have steak three. Me three meals a day. I could like steak and eggs, a steak sandwich, and a filet at night.

[Dale Comstock]

I.

[Brent]

Every meal of every day.

[Dale Comstock]

I could. I pretty much live on the Carnivore diet. I've been doing Carnivore for over three years.

[Brent]

Love it.

[Dale Comstock]

Just eating steak, chicken, eggs.

[Brent]

Love it.

[Drew Tucker]

Just not 11B. Thank you, man, for the love. Checking in from a church function. Next check in will be while smoking a Delta. Allison Chains. What the hell have I outro for 50 bucks?

[Brent]

Didn't we get that? We did. That last week or the week before, I think we did, but the man spoken.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, holy folk, back in again. Dale Brent, what's a mission you never want, you never went on, you wish you could. And why?

[Brent]

Oh, sure, I can answer that. Every single one that I didn't do at the unit is the mission I wish I could have gone on. And I don't even care if another squadron was doing it or this is a combat rotation. Every mission you don't go on, I, I wish I was on. I was absolutely addicted to it. Every, every blowout that happened that wasn't on, on, on, on our schedule, I was jealous of, I wanted to go on everything. I'm selfish like that.

[Dale Comstock]

No, I agree. Being in the unit was like, we used to call it Wally World for a reason. Right. So it was like Disney World for men. Because every day you go there, it was like, it really was an adventure. I mean, I used to look forward to going to work in the morning and when I came home in the evening, if I came home at all, you know, I was like, I couldn't wait for the next day again because you're going to do so much cool stuff. Shooting and obstacle courses and lifting and driving and jumping. I mean, I mean, every day was just a jam packed day here. Yeah, same thing. Every mission I miss is like the one I wish I would have been on.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Here's a story I've never told because it didn't really make sense, but it makes sense with this. If I was home, I would go help the other squadron pack out and then look around for teams that may have been short or, or needed my assistance. I never, I never got on one. I almost, I'll tell you which one later. I almost got on one like, yeah, we could use you. But I, I couldn't get the, the certain approvals to go. But even I would go help other guys pack out, trying, trying to get on, try to get on their missions.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, that's addictive. It's very addictive. And the longer you're there, the worse it gets. No, it really is. And they're, that it's actually problematic just for some people, man. It's operator syndrome. Right. So, you know, you have high allostatic load every day it becomes almost like a drug. And then when you retire, you, you leave, you do something else. It's, it's like a downer, man. And then you try to replace that, that rush and you look for things to do. And a lot of guys started getting into risky. You Know, risky things to do, you know, and, you know, you know, and I, I'm not going to it, but there's guys over there have committed suicide after, after they left. You know, it's. And it's not just operators, Delta operators. It could be law enforcement, it could be ER doctors, anybody in that kind of. That's under that load every day. When you take that stress away, it just doesn't feel comfortable and they need it back. Probably explains why a lot of women keep going back to the guy keeps beating the. Out of them.

[Drew Tucker]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

Like they got so used to it that not being beat seems abnormal. So let me go back to, to doing something that's normal, like getting the hell beat out of me. Right?

[Brent]

So we, we had a guy that retired from the unit, and I think within a year he got into BASE jumping. And at, at the time, I didn't understand why. And he died. I didn't understand why. And then I left and I go, I know why he did that.

[Dale Comstock]

Right.

[Brent]

He was trying to replace the adrenaline rush and, and, and regular parachuting won't do it. And he got into BASE jumping. And so.

[Dale Comstock]

True. People ask me all the time, what do you do? And I actually, I never, I never had that issue because I was always engaged, always looking for things to do. I'm. I built a company right away, actually. Pre 9 11, I had it built. I got involved with the other group, right. For almost 10 years, concurrently running other businesses. I'm always super busy and I'm doing the things I want to do. And sometimes I do go back to the well for another drink, right. And I do.

[Brent]

Right.

[Dale Comstock]

But just satisfy the thirst. And then I know one day I might fall in the well and never get back out. It's just part of the nature. But that's what I have done to avoid that. Because it's really easy to define yourself from who you were. Right. Rather than define yourself who you are today. When people go, you know, they commented, I was, you know, you're a Delta operator, blah, blah, blah. Like, that was a long time ago, by the way. And I don't define myself as the Delta operator. That's just one of the things I did in my life today. I'm a PhD. I run multiple businesses, I travel the world, I'm involved in a lot of other things. So I define myself by what I'm doing today. And more importantly, I define myself by what am I doing to help other people. And this is where, yeah, you have a purpose. Purpose, right. And so. And this and so the might in this, you know, again, I don't want to use names, but you'll know what I'm talking about. There are guys out there, you know, they. They run every app about what they did. I did this. And my question always, what are you doing today besides teaching firearms course, Right. Or, you know, whatever weird thing you got going on, because that's all you can do, because that's what you define yourself. What are you doing to help people? What are you doing to improve humanity? What are you doing outside your little comfort zone? You know, what are you doing? What else have you done? And I think that's really important. And it's not about, you know, again, I'm gonna use, you know, I killed a bunch of people. I did this, I did that. You know, it's not about that, man. The measure to. To measure manhood, killing people is not a measure of manhood. You know, I know there's probably people out there going, but you did. You don't know the facts, but the measure of manhood is not how many people get killed. You know, the measure of manhood is do you have a purpose? Right? At the end of the day, do you have a purpose? You know, do you. Are you. Are you committed to your purpose, Right? And end of the day, are you resilient to all the stress and that's going on around you? And lastly, what are you doing to help other people? That's really. When you get my age, especially, it's not about you anymore. It's about what can I. And I. This is why, going back to my conversation about my dad earlier, right? My dad taught me the best lesson of life after he passed away. And that has changed, really has changed my. My life moving forward. And. And that's why I try to share this now, because I didn't always do this, but I should have started lately doing on some of the podcasts. I thought it's an important message for people to understand it's not always about you. Sometimes it's about other people.

[Brent]

I could. I couldn't agree anymore. Everything you just said, there's nothing to even add on to that. That's perfect.

[Magnet]

We all have multiple lives that we lived, and not everybody. And not everybody does. And that's why I always tell people that's what I did in my past life.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

With the fighting and the mini truck stuff and all that. What are you doing now?

[Dale Comstock]

Exactly.

[Brent]

Right. Yeah, exactly. And for those who don't know, that was magnet talking. I know they couldn't see Him. But it was.

[Magnet]

I think they see me enough.

[Brent]

They can never see that beautiful beard or not.

[Kevin Honan]

Thank you.

[Drew Tucker]

Mason Goodwin says Brenton Drew. Love the show. Dale and Brent, how often did y' all train combatives in the unit and how often did y' all use those combatives on target? Oh, good song. Ballad of the Green Beret. Ten bucks.

[Brent]

That is, of course, you ask us individually, we'll give you individual answers there. When I was there, there was no, I mean, of course OTC had its combatives program that was, but there, there was no mandatory that, that you had to go. It was available to you if you wanted to, and everyone went in there, you know, to, to some degree. But I wasn't, I wasn't big on combatives and, and I'm not anti combatives by, by any means. I just, I chose to be. To spend my time at the gym and, and other places because you only have so much time and for me, we got to beat up on little people a lot. And so I, I never had a problem with not being the biggest man in every room and forcing any guy to do what I needed to. Of course, I, I still went to combatives occasionally and, and, and made sure I knew enough to be dangerous, but that just wasn't my forte. Something tells me you did combatives a little more than I did.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. So when I was there, so every, every squadron had its loft and we had, we had everything up there, all the pads, equipment, and it was the same thing. It wasn't mandatory, but there was enough of us in each squadron that like to get together usually on a daily basis and go up there and train. So that was not uncommon. We did have the, you know, a structured program in otc, but it was a voluntary thing again. Right. Overall, you know, if you want to do it, great. It was encouraged, but it was not, you know, you didn't have to do it. It wasn't expected. But my, my experience is obviously, you know, very, very deep. I've been training martial arts most of my life, at least starting the age of 13, 12. I will multiple black belts. I was a professional boxer, kickboxer, tough man, champion, king. So anyway, I fought a lot is what I'm trying to say. And I can tell you in combat, I have used it and I say I've used that. I trained my men in a very robust combative program. It was extensive. I had, I bought them everything you could possibly buy guys for combatives training. And the guys that I trained went from. So they gave me a demonstration One day I said, let me see what you got. And I did all the taekwondo, high flying, you know, kung fu, flying, spider monkey things. It was pretty weird. I said, cool. But they were all motivated. I'm talking about, about Afghans. And I started this program and I was mopping the floor with him. So I would. What I didn't let them do, after a while, I find it. But usually what I do is spar with everybody. Like all the ODAs when I was training them. So every two weeks I would train a new ODA. From 5 to 7 in the morning, I run them all through the program. At third group, I didn't let them spar each other because I know they kill each other. So I was, I was the, I was the pivot man, right? They had to spar me. I'd give each guy three minutes with me. More control, I had more control. You know, I kind of had a little bit of some rules on there. Like after three point combination, you got to back off and recock, right? If you hit me four times, I'm going to crush you. Same thing with the grappling. I let them grapple because it couldn't hurt each other. They're too bad, right? But with the Afghans, I kind of let them go for broke because those guys were savage, man. They just beat the out of each other and they liked it. And I even gave my guys an option. Said, man, you don't have to participate in this. If you just want to go run PT somewhere, you can do that. Not a man ever not showed up. They showed up every day for 18 months. And I used to wipe them out. But toward the end of my time with them, I got a. I got a, an awakening one day. So I decided I got there and, well, first of all, I had two rangers show up, right Red, and they're like, hey, you think we can, we can grapple with you guys? Sure. Get in there. And they got their ass handed to them. And then I jumped in there and the guy, one of my guys beat me. He just didn't know he beat me. He had me by the balls, man. He choked me out and only reason I didn't go down is because I'm not going to go down. Just. But he had me and he figured out, well, maybe I don't have him. So he let go. Thank God, because I didn't go under. But that's the moment I realized I met Mission. I did my job. These guys are ready, and, man, they'd go out on target. They handled Taliban in a whole different way from the beginning. Holy cow, man.

[Brent]

And I, and like, I agree with that. I don't want anyone to think that I'm, that I'm two faced. If, if I was Afghan size, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't have been proficient at. That's not what I'm saying by any means. I'm just saying with, with my mindset, when I, if I was Afghan size, I would absolutely be doing combatives. Here's another thing. If, if I was, if I was a cop, I mean, we'll call it my playing weight. My playing weight was 215 to 220. That's that I was a large man. But you know what? I could go into a 711 here in America and not be the largest man in that 7 11. You know, if you're law enforcement here in America, you had better train hand to hand. And if, you know, and if, if the environment changed, you know, what, what I trained for would change. We just had a really set schedule, if, if you will.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

But anyway.

[Dale Comstock]

Well, I, I remember. I mean, you're right, it was that way for us too. And I trained quite a bit. It was just my passion. I wanted to get really good at it and proficient at it for, you know, it teaches you a lot. Not just how to fight, but it's good for your mind, teaches discipline, control. I've made a lot of money doing it, so, and I, and this is, I was all self taught for the most part, but it does have its place to answer the question again. Yeah, I've been doing it for a very long time. I've trained many people and I've actually trained people to use this in combat. And I actually have guys that actually used it in combat in life and death situations. Like literally what I taught them, that one move saved their life. So I'm pretty happy about that.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Holy fook, says Mr. Clydesdale. That was a good one. Did you ever ride a horse on any missions?

[Dale Comstock]

Oh man, that's a good one. Yeah. So, all right. So, yeah, okay, this is crazy. So I learned how to ride horses with a certain group. Why? Because we need to know how to pack a meal, ride a horse, you know, do everything you need to do to ride a horse in combat. And so I got pretty proficient at it, you know, very intensive training. And then I go back overseas. It just so happened, the location that we were at, we had our own stables and we had a bunch of horses. We had probably 18 horses. And by the way, yeah, in this country, they don't. They don't cut the nuts off the stallions. They leave them on there, right? So they're not just regular horses. These are. They're mad horses. We had mules, we had donkeys, right? And so I show up, day one, I've had all this cool, intensive training, and I'm like, I'm gonna go ride one of these horses, right? So I go down to. I go down to the stable and I tell the stable hand, I go, give me a horse, right? Pick me a horse, give me a horse. He does. But I'm not a fool either. So I show up, I got my holster on, I got my 9 mil, my Glock on my side just in case. And you never know how things are going to go. He brings out this big black bastard, man, big stallion, beautiful. He goes, there's your ride. And by the way, the saddles were made out of wood. If you're riding a horse, a saddle with a. It's made out of wood. Yeah. That hurts.

[Brent]

That doesn't sound fun.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, well, you know, it's that part of the world. And so everything's going good. I get on the horse and back him up, turn him to the right, give him a little kick, goes forward just like he's supposed to do. We go out the gate and I'm like, cool. This is not so bad after all. Because normally, like, especially in Afghanistan, if you ever watch the. They ride the horses over, especially the patrols, the sentry patrols, they always have a club, a stick, right? I call it the tranquilizer. But because these horses are so full of energy and they're constantly gnashing at each other and just, you know, they're. They're jockeying for position. He studs, these stallions, right? So they. They need a. They need power steering. That's where the stick comes in to kind of control them. Well, he didn't give me power steering, okay? We left that piece of equipment out. I don't know if that was intentional. So I get on the horse, I start riding a little bit. That's going pretty good. I didn't invite the guy to come and ride with me, but he took on his. On himself to get on a horse and thought he's going to go ride with me. When he shows up with his horse, it was a whole different dynamic. So suddenly the horses want to race and fight, right? Two stallions, and I'm the amateur, right? I'm admit I just got trained, so I'm like the new guy on the system. He's the old guy. My horse takes off at a dead run, like, dead run, because they want to compete, but mine just leaves the other one in dust. And he won't even hit the brakes. We're going up this hill to a listening post, observation post. It's manned with about a platoon of guys up there, Hesco's. And he's running full tilt right for them. And I don't know why he wants to go that direction, but that's where we're going. I have no control. I tried to reign them in. Nothing's happened. I'm punching him in the neck, nothing's happening. I'm leaning back, nothing's happening. He knows I don't know what the hell I'm doing, so he's going to have a good time. So we get up into the camp full tilt, and they had laundry strung out everywhere, right? I'm riding through the laundry. I got laundry wrapped around me, the horse, all the. All the. All the troops are running for their lives.

[Magnet]

And.

[Dale Comstock]

And the horse hits the back end of the LPO, the OP, and he throws a 180 and gets on the gas again. It goes back out the door of the gate, goes down this hill. The side of the hill is just covered with big boulders. It's. It's pretty. It's pretty rough. And he's not walking slow. He's at a full gallop. And now he's heading back for the stable, and I'm just along for the ride. And I'm thinking, I got to get off this horse because he's going to kill me. And as I started to contemplate that, one of my feet came out of the stirrups, out of a wooden saddle, right? And I fall off the damn horse. And I'm being dragged by my right foot. I got to steal the sturdy. He's at full speed. And I'm going down this hill over the rocks, and I'm thinking, I ain't going to make it.

[Magnet]

It.

[Dale Comstock]

I'm not going to make it. So you know what I did next, right? Four stroke draw. First round missed and lucky. About the time I got. Took the slack out of the second shot, bugging my foot, came out of the stirrup, and I just kind of rolled down the hill and the horse just kept on going out me, right? And I covered in dust and like, what the hell just happened? The other rider comes up and he's like, oh, hey. He goes, hey, ride my horse. Ride my horse. I go, no, I'm done with the horse riding. He goes, no, no, ride my horse. I know. He insists on. Right? So he gets off the horse. And as I start to mount the horse, I go, give me the power steering. You didn't give me one of these sticks, right? So I get on the horse. The horse knew I was an idiot, right? What did the horse do? Start spinning around really fast. And there I go again into the dirt. I get up, I said, that's it. No more horseback riding. Been there, done it. We're done. And so that's my experience with riding a horse in a combat zone. Lasted for like maybe five minutes. And it ended disastrously. And I haven't ridden horse since then.

[Brent]

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[Dale Comstock]

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[Magnet]

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[Dale Comstock]

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[Brent]

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[Dale Comstock]

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[Brent]

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[Dale Comstock]

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[Brent]

I can understand why you haven't ridden

[Magnet]

a horse since then and you didn't pull your taint.

[Dale Comstock]

No.

[Magnet]

Could have.

[Brent]

Could have. It was. It was there. The opportunity was there, but it didn't. You have a strong taint, sir.

[Dale Comstock]

I guess so.

[Brent]

Strong.

[Dale Comstock]

I don't know what that is, but I guess.

[Brent]

All right, what else you got?

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Holy fook, says Dale. Did you work with 22 SAs during the first Gulf War hunting Scuds?

[Dale Comstock]

Oh, man.

[Drew Tucker]

Your thoughts on Bravo 2 0, especially Chris Ryan, aka Colin Armstrong on his E from Iraq into Syria.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I've worked with two 2SAS before and I'm very familiar with that story, like super familiar with it. And there are a lot of lessons learned during that time. And one is which we as at least Americans and as a unit guys, we always carried at least two quarts of water. Right? Water's important. They didn't. I remember that. And I don't know if it's written in the book Bravo Two Zero Nine. I never read it, but I got the debrief. We got it actually from him and he mentioned how, yeah, we didn't take water that was that important. Right. So we didn't carry a lot of it because we just used it for making our tea until we got compromised and had to run and we didn't bring enough water to run with. And so I'm very familiar with the story, and that's a hard lesson to learn. A lot of guys passed away on that run. What's interesting I do remember is one of the guys he described on the team was actually pretty big, muscular guy, and he was like one of the first guys to go down. You know, he was. And, you know, I'm not saying big guys can't have endurance. Of course they can. But he was the first guy went down. He kind of attributed.

[Magnet]

Right.

[Brent]

There is a give and take.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

To that.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. His. His thought was the weight, his own personal weight. And just metabolically he was not. He was not ready for that, that kind of a movement. The weather was super cold, super icy, man. I think they actually talked about the snow, icy conditions. But I, you know, who am I to judge, right? Shit happened. Tragically, it did happen, and it's happened many times. I mean, we can talk about, you know, lone survivor Marcus Luttrell, that team. I remember. I know that I knew that team. I can't go into all the specifics on why I knew them, but there, There's. That's an example. There's another example I can think of from third group team during Desert Storm. There comes a point where when you're compromised, you need to. You need to just leave and get out of Dodge and reset and start over and. And you can't let your guard down. You just can't assume that. Oh, I don't think they'll bother us. Like, hey, that goat herder just saw us. What should we do? Maybe he won't tell on us. And it's continuation. Once you're compromised, you're compromised. Every time teams get compromised.

[Brent]

Recce truth always has been, at every level.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, but you know how many times that's happened since Desert Storm? I'm familiar of several cases where that's happened, where the guy's like, ah, they didn't seem to be too interested. Maybe they don't care.

[Brent]

Do you think it's because guys just want to accomplish the mission so bad they'll do anything? Or is it just bad tactics? Yeah, I think it's ego or what Is there anything.

[Dale Comstock]

I don't know because, I mean, these guys are not dumb guys, right? They're good guys, but we all make bad choices sometimes. I don't know. I can't. I Can't say why, but you might be right. There's this, this drive, the desire that we have to finish the mission. Right. Complete the mission, because it's beaten into us, it's ingrained into us, you know, Complete the mission, you get compromised, you feel like, ah, I failed, I got compromised. Right. So, well, let's go ahead and do it anyways and we all die for it. No, sometimes you just got to going up to go. Yeah, we got compromise to get us out of here. We set and start again another day. Yeah.

[Magnet]

All right.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. Zubi says, dale, what's your thoughts on Israeli and Zionism, man?

[Dale Comstock]

Here we go. Let me just say this. I don't like. Although I have commented on religion, I try to avoid some of these, These conversations because, look, I don't know, man. Israel, Zionism. I've worked with Israelis. Some of them ain't too bad. Some of them were douchebags, couldn't be trusted, just like everybody else on this planet, you know, and, yeah, I, I really can't honestly answer that question. I. I don't have a real comment on that. I don't think badly of anybody, particularly Jews or Christians or even Muslims for that. I think I restated that. I look at people from the individual merits and from a different lens. I guess I try to be a little bit more understanding. I don't know what they got going on, honestly. I don't know what the Jews got going on. The Zionists, I don't know. Maybe I don't. Maybe I'm not informed enough on that.

[Drew Tucker]

It's a good answer. All right, M24 says, is there a top Delta squadron or is the bell curve pretty similar on the blue side? Red gold seem to have a good rep. Is it similar on green side

[Brent]

as it should be? If you ask each squadron who's the best, they will tell you that they're the best. Maybe they are, maybe they're not, but that's the answer you'll get. And that should be. That should be the answer. So I'll. Of course I'll tell you my squadron was the best because that should be the. You better believe at that level that your guys, your squadron are the best. And.

[Dale Comstock]

And my squadron was the best.

[Brent]

But just so happened, apparently it's been the best for a long time.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Because I made it that way before you got there.

[Drew Tucker]

Zubi says, dale, thoughts? Nick Fuentes, the Mexican white supremacist, and your overall take on streamers entering the political media space.

[Dale Comstock]

All right, help me on that one. Nick Fuentes. I've heard the name. Anybody got anything?

[Brent]

Yeah, I know who he is. Some, some people would consider him an extreme right wing conservative. I don't follow him closely. I know who he is. I, I don't know enough for him to be a white supremacist. I'll probably get in trouble for saying this. Someone will clip it and, but what I'm concerned about because I just don't know. I don't know what he said. I, I do know what Charlie Kirk said. And he's also been labeled a white supremacist. So I don't know if you're calling him that because of facts and data that, that he's presented and you don't like the facts and that on the way he presented it, or if he truly is, if he truly is a white supremacist. I have, I have no time for him. If he's just digging in on data that some people don't like and therefore because they don't like the data, they go to name calling. I, I don't, I don't know enough.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I don't either. Honestly, I don't.

[Drew Tucker]

Let's see. What are your thoughts on the Iran war?

[Brent]

What do you, what do you think, Dale? About the Iran war?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Great topic again this morning. We, we did a whole podcast in my car this morning, coming up here, six hours. So here's my thoughts. In fact, that question was asked me this morning. First of all, I'm pretty sure Donald Trump has the highest IQ of all presidents ever in the United States. I believe it's over 160. You, irrespective of that, I think he's actually a pretty smart guy and he's playing chess, everybody else playing checkers. And he's got a good, he's got a way of gaslighting everybody out there. When he said, oh, we're going to annex Newfoundland, right. He wasn't serious. But everybody's like, oh, my God. You know, they got all, they got all riled up while they're looking over there. He was doing this over here. What I think's going on in Iran. Do they have a nuclear capability? Probably not. Not anymore. Can they probably get it again? Yeah. Have they threatened to kill a lot of people? Yeah. Have they killed Americans? Yeah. For a very long time. We know we were fighting them in Iraq, but why did, why did Trump do that? I think what he did was a smart move. One, we go into Venezuela, all right, we clipped their nuts by catching Maduro. Now we kind of control the oil flow out of there, going into Cuba and China, all right? And then he goes into Iran. I think he knew what was going to happen. That was part of the agenda. Control the straight Hormuz, right? And then what's also interesting is there's one more straight that's, that's key and that's the Straits of Malacca, right, in, in Southeast Asia, which the Chinese need to run their oil ships through. And about two months ago, while I was there, I think it was Pete Hexeth came over and secured overflight rights in Indonesia, right? So there it is. Now we have, we can come in there and if we need to pinch off Straits of Malacca, we, we could probably do that as well. And the goal was not, it's not because we need more oil, right? That's, that's a, that's a straw man, everybody. Oh, it's about the oil, man. We got more oil under our soil than probably the entire planet has. It's not about we need more oil because there's a shortage. It has everything to do with the petrodollar, right? So when you think about the Chinese, the brilliant Brazilians, you know, all these other countries that started the, was the BRICs, right, they were trying to compete with the US dollar. They're trying to basically de dollarize it, if that's even a term. But I think this was Trump's play to basically keep the petro dollar as the predominant currency in the world. And I think that's what the play was. It's not about the oil, it's about using the oil to, to control the petrodollar, which controls everything. Everything hinges off that. I think that was the mission more so than, you know, eliminate a nuclear threat. So I think that's, that's my take on it.

[Brent]

Do you think that, do you think one, how, how much longer do you think this Iran war will, will, will go for? And then I have a follow up question to that.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, that's interesting because makes I have to wonder too. Why does Trump keep doing these mouse with these guys and then they violate them and there's a little fight and more conversations, more fights. It's like nothing's happening. Dude, why they keep bullshitting you? And I'm wondering if there's not another agenda that we just don't know. Trump's playing the game. Maybe he's biting time, maybe he's trying to set up something else. But I, I'm pretty confident that if we decided to just take out Iran, we could do it People might not like it, but I think we can do it. And so I think there's another agenda. Why is he playing the game? That's very U.N. trump, like, he's pretty freaking savvy when it comes to stuff like this. When enough is enough, he handles it. So I think he's got another agenda. We don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. But how long will it last until Trump's met? His agenda goes, okay, now we can, we can take him out. So I think maybe a couple more months.

[Brent]

And do you think he's, he's got some time left in the presidency? Something tells me Cuba's not off the table. Do you think he might do something with Cuba? And do you think he should do something with Cuba?

[Dale Comstock]

I think so. I think that's the reason we went in to get Maduro is to cut off the oil flow to Cuba. Now they're pretty much blacked out. They got nowhere to turn. I think that was, that was the intentions to kind of starve them out, so to speak. And I think there's going to. We're probably going to end up doing something. I don't know if we're going to annex them or liberate them, install a new government, but I think that was kind of the mission, that there's something, there's something to play there. And I think it is something related to controlling that, controlling Cuba. That's what I think I do, too.

[Brent]

And he doesn't have to run for re election, so he's got nothing to worry about. It's something that should have been done a long time ago. A lot. I mean, this is a whole long subject. But, but I can argue Iran should have been taken care of a long time ago. North Korea should have been taken care of a lot a long time ago. There's a lot of problems in this world that could have been taken a long time and could have been taken care of a long time ago. And now we hate Trump because he's just doing. He's just having the guts to do what other people did not.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Agreed. Yeah.

[Brent]

All right, what else we got?

[Drew Tucker]

All right, Joe's got you, says Dale Brent. Did you guys see the movie Young Washington yet? I had the chill.

[Brent]

Oh, man.

[Magnet]

I've.

[Brent]

I, I have not. I'm going to see that. There's two movies. It's. So I was gonna go see it. The day that I was gonna go see it, I went and looked at the theaters. They were playing it that day. So I was gonna watch it the next day, and it was out of theaters the very next day. Didn't get to watch it. I rarely. There's rarely movies I want to see. There's two movies right now that I want to see. One's out of theaters. I want to see Young Washington and I. I want to see the Odyssey. So, Drew, did you see the Odyssey? I did. Did you like it?

[Magnet]

I did.

[Drew Tucker]

It was a good movie. Good movie.

[Kevin Honan]

All right.

[Brent]

Solid movie, all three hours of it.

[Drew Tucker]

But I also like he.

[Brent]

Man, was it a long one? Did it feel long?

[Drew Tucker]

No, it didn't feel long to me.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Drew Tucker]

No. But I was glad to just sit in a cold, dark room so I could have sat there for.

[Dale Comstock]

For a long time.

[Brent]

I get that with you. All right, let's. Let's get through these.

[Drew Tucker]

All right. About the disguise question. I can see Dale disguise with a mullet.

[Brent]

It.

[Dale Comstock]

Cuz I don't have any hair.

[Drew Tucker]

Right wing nut. Got an old operator here where I live in Louisiana. You know Jerry Bell? Mr. Como? Great dude.

[Brent]

You know him by chance?

[Dale Comstock]

Jerry Bell? I don't know, man.

[Brent]

At first I had to make sure it wasn't one of those made fun of fake names, but. No, it's not.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I'm going through the rolo deck. I'm trying to remember Michael Huss.

[Magnet]

Have you guys heard of him?

[Dale Comstock]

Terrible.

[Magnet]

Michael Huss. He's local.

[Brent]

No, you do not know Michael Huss.

[Magnet]

Jimmy wants to get him on the podcast.

[Dale Comstock]

We'll hook that up later.

[Brent]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Drew Tucker]

TJ Paris says reports of large Russian drone attack on Poland.

[Brent]

Oh, I have not heard that. That. That would be so stupid. Stupid of Russia. They can't take care of Ukraine. Don't give. Don't give Poland a reason. And I don't. I don't know if they would do that because if they. That if they attack Poland. Poland is a part of the. Oh, my gosh. Can't believe I'm forgetting words now. What's up? Of NATO. Thank you. My gosh. And so if they attacked a NATO country, then everyone would have to come together. M. Am I correct on that? Give it. Give it to our Europeans to make sure I'm correct. That's one of the benefits of being in. In NATO.

[Kevin Honan]

If you can understand my accent.

[Drew Tucker]

Yes.

[Brent]

Why are you bringing up old stuff?

[Dale Comstock]

Kevin hurt his feelings. Exactly.

[Kevin Honan]

Yeah. No, there would be a direct engagement with NATO and you know, Russia doesn't want that. That's not on the table.

[Brent]

All right, well, I'm not saying you're Wrong. I'm just saying that would be a stupid, stupid move on. On Russia's part.

[Drew Tucker]

Holy fook says who is the worst enemy on a mission? It's the dang goat herder and their bell ringing goats. More folks have been compromised by go herders than anyone else. Do you agree?

[Brent]

I mean people.

[Dale Comstock]

Gosh, dogs is dogs.

[Brent]

Dogs is a good one. He said. Yeah, I said and people. He's of course ghost goat herders are people, but it's not. Not all goat herders are people, but not all people are goat herders if you gotta follow that logic. But dogs. People underestimate the amount of dogs that bark on a mission.

[Dale Comstock]

How far out they'll hear you and compromise you.

[Brent]

Oh especially man big ass. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dogs. If. If dogs ain't one, it's a close two.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I would give them a one for sure.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, this is our final super chat so far. Zubi says thoughts on John Kariaku and the CIA torture program.

[Brent]

Thoughts on it. Do you have thoughts on it?

[Dale Comstock]

I don't.

[Drew Tucker]

Do we know who John Kiriakou is?

[Brent]

I do because he was on the great Dalton Fisher podcast and he's been on a couple of other podcasts. The. I'll say this people who. Who say torture is the worst form of getting information out.

[Magnet]

I just.

[Brent]

I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. Like torture will. It'll just make people say whatever that you. You want to hear. This is gonna sound crazy. I do believe there's ethical torture. That would be. That would be a whole long debate. But we'll just. We'll just leave it at that. I don't think with certain bad guys. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that being nice to be when some people come back. Well, one of. One of the Nazi German During World War II, one of the greatest interrogator got all this information from being nice. Okay, maybe. Maybe he did. Let me tell you. A lot of information got. Got brought out from torture too. And when it comes to. Yeah, when it comes to the benefit and security of this great nation, just me. I don't know. I know you want war to be nice and clean and pretty and gentlemanly. It's not. And I'll.

[Dale Comstock]

I'm not.

[Brent]

I'm not saying that I would do anything, but I'm not. But I'm also saying we just can't ask nice questions and expect honest answers from bad guys.

[Dale Comstock]

No, I'll tell you my experience with it. So here's what happens. So when this whole thing happened with McCain, interrogations don't work. I will argue interrogations do work. And there's a lot of Americans are alive because of that. So interrogations don't mean you have to drill holes in the guy's kneecap and pull his fingernails out. It's just the fear of you might do something to them that will get people to speak. And there's other ways to do that. It's all psychological again. But here's what I have found is when, when you roll up a dude that you know is a bad guy. And I'll give you an example, maybe Afghanistan, we'll use that one. For example. You roll after the whole McCain thing. You catch a guy, you didn't kill him or whatever, he got lucky. Usually the first question to ask is, are you arresting me as a terrorist or as a criminal? Because if you're a terrorist, they know you. They're. They're going with you, and they're going to get three hots in the cot for 72 hours. And all they, you can't beat them up, you can't yell at them, you can't call them name. And after three days, they get to take all their stuff and leave, right? That's what started happening. If you, if they're being arrested as a criminal by their own police, that's different. Because being a criminal, you get treated like hell, right? There's. There's no rules there for them. They do what the hell they want to. So they were happy if we roll them up as a terrorist. And I don't know how many times I'd roll up the same guy, he goes, hey, like he knew me. And I'm like, jew again. You know, like, that's the last time. Next time, letting air out of you. It's like, you know, and it got to. And it got so crazy that I remember there were times, like, guys recognized me, like, hey, I remember you from the last time. I'm like, what? So it got, it started getting dumb is what it did. It's like, you know, this is just a catch and release program. This whole notion that interrogations don't work, that's a bunch of bunk, all right? That's a bunch of crap. Doesn't say you have to hurt people, like, really badly. Just the fear of hurting them. A lot of times will make people start giving up information. And you can tell when they're lying and when they're not. There's, there's, there are ways to do this kind of stuff. But I think in a lot of ways, man, to your point, we can't fight a war by being nice to the bad guy because he's just gonna keep screwing you, man.

[Brent]

You know, that's what they do.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, it doesn't work, man.

[Kevin Honan]

But I was just gonna say yes kind of separately. So I've had contact with John myself. I don't know him personally, but we've messaged back and forth. And the. The one thing I would say is he did get burned on a line of her politics and policing crosses over, despite what you think about the. The substance of the conversation. Like, I would agree with a lot of what you said as well on that. It's. It's nuanced. The devil is in the details. If you've got people playing outside of the rules while you're constrained by certain rules, that becomes very hard to. To differentiate and, you know, lay out in a very clear black and white way. But what I, What I would say is that the consequences that befell him, you know, they. They did seem very harsh. You know, I think he's one of a handful of people that got prosecuted under the law that existed. One of, what was it, four people in the last hundred years. Am I correct in that?

[Dale Comstock]

Do you, do.

[Kevin Honan]

Do you guys know those details?

[Brent]

I don't remember the details.

[Kevin Honan]

Yeah, it was like some law about, you know, the way that. That classified information came out in the emails with the producers where he just inadvertently confirmed something that he shouldn't have and that was essentially used against him, you know, and that. That did seem a little bit harsh, at least to me, you know, from an outside perspective.

[Brent]

Yeah, we get that.

[Dale Comstock]

That's all. It's all relative, too. It's funny, right? Is people are like, oh, interrogation's bad, blah, blah, blah. But people. Parents do it to the kids every day and spank them too. Right. I mean, come on, you know, it's.

[Drew Tucker]

I' ma spank you till you tell me the truth, boy.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah. That's gotten the truth out of some kids.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

But guess what? Of course, this. There's a lot of people out there that don't. That see that as child abuse. Don't want to see that either.

[Drew Tucker]

I learned a lot from my daddy. Our daddy lined us up and said, all right, I'm spanking each and every one of you until the one comes

[Brent]

out and says it, that's true.

[Drew Tucker]

Or the others rat him out.

[Brent]

That's right.

[Dale Comstock]

Right.

[Brent]

And he hurt innocent kids to get the truth. And he got the truth.

[Drew Tucker]

We were never innocent. Just because we were getting a spanking for something we didn't do at that moment.

[Brent]

That's right.

[Drew Tucker]

Doesn't mean we didn't deserve a spanking for something he doesn't know about.

[Brent]

Isn't that the truth?

[Dale Comstock]

My dad was armed with the army belt. Army utility belt. That's what he used on me. My mom had the cook spoon between those two weapons. Yeah.

[Brent]

My grandmother used a switch. Yeah. That you had to go out and find.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. You had to go find it.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew Tucker]

That'll make a tier one man out of you.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Brent]

A few more coming in here at the end.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah, we do have a few. Let's see. TJ Paris has sent what I saw to your Insta dm. So I don't know if you saw Bigfoot. I don't know what that's about.

[Brent]

What I saw. Okay.

[Kevin Honan]

All right.

[Drew Tucker]

Awesome. Just another 11B shout out to Magnet. The tier one. Pew.

[Brent]

Pew.

[Drew Tucker]

SBR is bad arse. And you probably played my outro last week. I was working and missed it. Wiley donated more for his.

[Magnet]

Anyway, I can't take all the credit for that. I just put it together. Brent picked everything out.

[Brent]

Oh, thank you, Magnet. Thank you, thank you.

[Drew Tucker]

Brad Freeman says it seems military leadership is extremely risk adverse, afraid of bad press. It seems like in Vietnam, it was a wild west, especially for SF missions to some degree.

[Brent]

I'll tell you what, I'm reading the book About Face by David Hackworth. Colonel David Hackworth, God rest his soul. What an amazing American. And let me tell you what is hilarious to some degree. He fought in Korea, he fought in Vietnam. I'm just now getting into the Vietnam section, but everything that man dealt with, dealt with in the 50s is still going on today. They're just called something different. Careerism was alive and well then. Risk adverse commanders was alive and well then. Commanders that cared more about, you know, being political than killing the enemy was alive and well then. It's just so funny.

[Magnet]

We.

[Brent]

We think we have a weak army now and all this is news and all this is new.

[Drew Tucker]

Yeah.

[Brent]

It's been going on since. Since. Since war has been happening.

[Drew Tucker]

LBJ was our leader then. It just trickles down from that.

[Brent]

Yeah, it's so funny to see him and moan about all the army problems. And I'm telling you, you could pull it out of the history books and plan it into. Into today's war and it'd be the same exact thing.

[Magnet]

Rinse and repeat.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Drew Tucker]

Eric Olson says, last one for either of you. What's the weirdest thing you have ever seen on an op.

[Dale Comstock]

Oh, I got a good one too.

[Brent]

I think I've told this story before. I miss so many weird things that happen on and off. Maybe it's a tie. I saw one teammate get off of a cupola, go left, but the cupola was offset and all the way to the left. On their night vision, you can't really see below you a whole lot. And he walked right off of the second story or the. The rooftop of a one story building. Might have been two. That was pretty crazy to watch. Oh, no. I got it. I got it. I was with the Afghan commandos, and the commandos wanted to bring this goat back. And I was like, I don't know if we can bring a goat, but I don't think the 47 crew is gonna be real happy about bringing a goat on board. But they were good commandos, and they bugged me and bugged me and bugged me. They really wanted this goat. And I was like, you know, what effort. If we can bring dead bodies onto a 47, we can bring a goat onto this 47. So. So I said, all right, bring the goat. You got it. And I'm just gonna deal with the air crew later. And the 47 is coming in, and we're on this, like, just shelf of a. Of. Of. Of terrain. And the. There's this little walkway that's like chest height that was just. Just below the. The flat level top of this terrain. The 47's landing here, and we had to stand on this little shelf right below it. And for whatever reason, I look over at this Afghan, he. He lifts up the goat over his head and then he throws it like 50ft to its death. And I'm thinking, whoa, why would he do that? Why would he bug me so much just to kill that goat? And I get back and I'm like, all right, who get the interpreter over here? Who killed the goat? I thought you wanted that goat. And apparently, I don't know why he decided to. He goes. But the goat was kicking and kicking and kicking in his. In his. In his arms when the 47, all the noise is coming in. So he got underneath the goat and wanted to lift it so the. So the legs would be flapping. But the goat was so unstable and he was so weak, it looked like he threw it. And I was like, all right, you weirdos. That's the last. Last time you asked me for a goat. I don't think I'd ever have to tell a man that. But, yeah, that was probably the weirdest thing I saw.

[Dale Comstock]

I seen some. A lot of weird things. One that kind of stands out, and it's kind of weird. It is weird, but it's kind of sexual. So we go hit a target. I'm not going to mention where again. And so we breached the door. So the door, the external door, leads into the living room. So the outside door, we're going to breach that door. We blow the door. And there was a lot of shrapnel. There are a lot of missiles from the door. The charge and it. It went to the far wall and literally just. Just splattered the entire wall. Just a lot of debris over there. And then on the far wall was. I'm looking at this door here. There was a bed, master bedroom door, right? So you come in from the outside, you go through the living room. If you go across the hall, across the living room, you end up in the master bedroom. So, boom, we blow this charge. Guys go in. We're clearing the corners. Secure. Okay. Next objective is that room, that door. And I'm on the point at this time, so I run forward, I open the door, I go through. And I was kind of shocked because as I run in through the door, I run right up to the bed, a big bed, and there's a. There's a dude on top of a chick having sex. And they're getting it right. And I'm like, how's that work? Because that. Charges went off. Was like a nuclear weapon. The whole wall is just splattered with. With fragmentation.

[Brent]

And.

[Dale Comstock]

And it took us a second to get in there. And now I get in there, and I'm right on this.

[Drew Tucker]

The walls were shaking.

[Dale Comstock]

I was right on the edge of the bed. And he's on her, and. And he. And he stops, but he stays on her. But he's like this. And he looks at me, he's like, hey, come on. He's pointing out, like, what's the problem?

[Brent]

I'm busy here.

[Dale Comstock]

That was pretty much what he was saying.

[Brent]

Hey, I don't know why he's New York in my mind, but. Okay. Yeah, because it's funny.

[Dale Comstock]

He said, let me. You know, like, basically he was like, let me finish this, right?

[Brent]

I'm working here.

[Drew Tucker]

I'm working.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

And so I was a little, like, put off by that. Like, how dare you disrespect me, right? So I said, get out of the bed. So I punched him in the head with the muzzle, right? And. And he rolls out of the bed. Then the other guys grab him and Chick, she has some big, big boobies on. I got out of the bed, said, go in the corner and cover with some. She, you know, and the guy had guns and money and all kinds of. Of crap laying on the dresser. But he's about 32, something like that. But that was one of the most insane things I've seen other ones like that in different countries. I've seen guys wake up literally, like, hugging a chicken. You know, like, who sleeps with a chicken, Right? How many times have you done CQB and run into a room and tripped over a goat or a cow?

[Brent]

Yeah, it happens. Yeah, it happens. There's all. All sorts of things they don't replicate in training, nor kid, nor could they.

[Dale Comstock]

No, no.

[Brent]

All right, what else?

[Drew Tucker]

All right, good Timber says, my grandfather whopped me with a boat paddle. And he also says, last bid for crowbar, it boosts testosterone.

[Brent]

Oh, my gosh. All right, we'll do a twofer. We'll do a twofer. But first, first, what do we. Oh, that was bad.

[Magnet]

No, that.

[Brent]

That is not the song I wanted. Mean street is what you're getting first. Hold on.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, while he's looking that up, guys, just a announcement for Truth in the Dark. This Sunday night will not take place. The live. Will not take place this Sunday night. I'm going to Daytona for the Florida Gang Investigators association conference. So no Live this Sunday night with Truth and Dark.

[Brent]

I don't know why. Van Halen. Van Halen. Mean street is.

[Dale Comstock]

Is.

[Brent]

Is what we need. And I will try it one more time. This didn't come up in the. In the search. Let me try it again. Van Halen, Mean Street. Let's see if this is it.

[Drew Tucker]

All right, when the music starts, you guys know this is the time that Brent reads the regular chats.

[Brent]

That is correct.

[Drew Tucker]

So make it count.

[Brent]

Your team just added its 67th AI tool and also your 67th security blind spot. The good news, the Vanta agent works like a GRC engineer in the background,

[Dale Comstock]

finding every app your team uses, scoring

[Brent]

the risk and drafting fixes for you. Vanta is the platform used by over 16,000 fast moving companies like Ramp, Cursor and Harvey, who are shaping the future with AI and staying ahead of AI risk. Get [e-mail]. Oh, let's see here. Truth in a tone. I wonder how much IR footage there is of dudes and goats. There is a lot of Cambridge footage of dudes and goats.

[Drew Tucker]

Yes.

[Dale Comstock]

And donkeys.

[Brent]

And donkeys. Oh, yeah, yeah. Popping into support. We'll have to Listen, tomorrow, my ride in. Cheers, boys. That's from Teddy Brol. Nice. Dale's. You already said your EDC firearm is.

[Magnet]

It.

[Brent]

Is EDC the Glock, or is it the. The Colt 1911?

[Dale Comstock]

It's both.

[Brent]

Oh, both, yeah. Yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

What I'm wearing.

[Brent]

Yeah. Eating beavers.

[Dale Comstock]

Yay.

[Brent]

Time for the pores. Oh, we'll rise and hide it. Let's see our boar. Hemingway. Dale, how was it working with Larry Vickers? Do you still keep in touch with us?

[Dale Comstock]

So I was actually Larry Vickers, team leader. Larry's a good dude. No, I don't keep in touch with him. We kind of tipped it apart. He's doing his thing, so. I've known Larry since the day came to my team.

[Kevin Honan]

Nice.

[Magnet]

All right.

[Kevin Honan]

All right.

[Brent]

Let's see here. Ask Dale about Jimmy Smoke west by Russell Ridge.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. Jimmy's my martial arts mentor.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

Guy's amazing. He really is. He's. I regard him as a very formidable and dangerous fighter.

[Brent]

Can you beat him?

[Dale Comstock]

No.

[Brent]

Never could.

[Dale Comstock]

No.

[Brent]

Not even your best?

[Dale Comstock]

One time, I did hit him. He put me to sleep.

[Brent]

There's always someone badder out there. Isn't that the truth? I don't care who you are.

[Dale Comstock]

But he was nice about it. He picked me right back up, dusted me off, and I wanted to fight some more. He goes, nope, you've had enough for today.

[Brent]

That's okay.

[Dale Comstock]

Thanks, boss.

[Brent]

Damn it. Skip. Skip McPhee again. I don't. I. I'm not worth. We didn't skip McPhee. We talked about him. Unless there was something else in there about. About a mile. Look for it.

[Dale Comstock]

Have.

[Brent]

One second, Drew. Have y' all had experience with the drone operators? At 160 this soar. I didn't know they had drone operators, but I've been out a few years now. It wouldn't surprise me, but. But her job is to carry people for the most part, so I don't know why they would have drones, but it wouldn't surprise me at the same time.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Hey, Dale, do you teach classes here in the great state of Florida? The gunshine state, if you will?

[Dale Comstock]

Sometimes. It just depends. I don't have regular courses or anything like that, but I do set up trainings as people requested.

[Magnet]

All right,

[Brent]

let's see here. Jim put a lot of people to sleep, says Russell Rich. He's. I don't know, shall. Hvx says I can't even hunt a moose now. I got on this weird Rabbit Hole Down YouTube Shorts of moose charging people and hurting people in Alaska, and there's Video after video after video. They are. Yeah, they're scary creatures.

[Dale Comstock]

They're big.

[Brent]

Gosh, they are big.

[Drew Tucker]

I think the question about McPhee was his single 10 missions.

[Dale Comstock]

Oh,

[Brent]

they're so blown out of proportions and dramatized. The. The truth isn't that crazy. The truth rarely is that crazy. Who runs the best CQB school in the U.S. well, that's easy. The Delta Force does at OTC. I don't think that's the answer. You wanted to hear about that. Maybe you're looking for something else. And you can go to that school. Me and you went to that school? Yeah. I mean, you can. You can go to that school.

[Dale Comstock]

Very expensive.

[Brent]

It's up to you. It's up to you. You gotta want it. Yeah, you got to want it. But it's the best EQB school. Dale, did you get the Tier 1 Corvette gift for coming on the show? No, but I told Dale we were out there looking at the car, and I said, dale, you look like a Corvette man. And what'd you say?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I'm more of a Camaro Mustang guy.

[Brent]

I said, I get that, too. I can see that a little. The still within the muscle car. Is the Corvette just too refined for you?

[Dale Comstock]

No, just too damn expensive.

[Brent]

With all your traveling, that. Something tells you that that takes a little bit of. Of your budget. You were on the move.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I don't need it.

[Brent]

Let's see. All right, Crowbar. Here we go. What? Whatever. Whatever this is. Please don't be too weird. I. The. They've been great so far. I don't think we've ever had, like, a truly weird song, but here we go. Crowbar. To build a mountain for you guys to build a mountain.

[Magnet]

Crowbar.

[Brent]

All right. Oh, really? James Recce. Dale was one of the first people. People to call out Rob's bull crap even before it was a thing. Is that true? Did you call out Rob's story for not being the truth?

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah. I knew. I know. For a long time.

[Brent]

It's.

[Dale Comstock]

And there's. There's a reason. I know he doesn't know, but we have a very common association. It's you and I talked about on the phone. I probably should not bring it all up, but I'm gonna implicate other people. But I already know. It's. It's full of. It's full of.

[Brent]

Are you get. Are you getting sued? No, not yet.

[Dale Comstock]

That's not fair.

[Brent]

That's not. That's not fair. Well, I mean, it's not fair.

[Dale Comstock]

I just. I yeah, you sue me for what? I don't believe the guy, you know, but I have reason not to believe him as well, so.

[Brent]

Yeah. Well, is it, Isn't that crazy? All right, we'll go back to the music because that was. I wanted to hear that. Let's see here. Dwazi says Magnet, don't get too hungover. You have to do it again tomorrow.

[Magnet]

That's true.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

I'm ready.

[Brent]

You want. You're gonna bring the Pew. Pew. Tomorrow we have. We have a Patreon giveaway.

[Magnet]

We got the Patreon sites today from

[Brent]

Saber, from Tyler Gray, essentially. Yeah.

[Magnet]

Sir.

[Brent]

Yep. Tyler Grace coming on the, on the show.

[Magnet]

So everything will be on tomorrow.

[Dale Comstock]

All right. Oh, actually, I love that car.

[Brent]

I had a 1988 Dusty. Go Tigers says Dale Rocks. A 1986 IROC Z28.

[Dale Comstock]

I used to.

[Brent]

I had a 1988 IROC Z20.

[Dale Comstock]

And I love that car. I used to.

[Magnet]

Yeah, sure.

[Brent]

And I'm telling you now that I got that car, if I ever have real big boy money, I'm going to finally go back, get that 19. 1988 Iro Z with T tops and do it right with, with adult money. Yeah, I would love to do that.

[Dale Comstock]

I had a red one. Ah, yeah.

[Brent]

Mine was black, too. As you can see, I, I got a thing for, for black sports cars.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

I had an 88 Mustang GT.

[Brent]

You would, you would. You would be a Ford guy.

[Magnet]

Oh, yeah.

[Dale Comstock]

Gosh.

[Brent]

Don't mind their trucks, but I never could get behind their cars. Just, just couldn't. The 302 will never.

[Dale Comstock]

You were too fast.

[Brent]

The 302 will never compete with the small block 350. Chevy's always understood that you need some displacement for true horsepower. And Ford apparently just never really got the memo.

[Drew Tucker]

Brent, you could never get behind those cars because yours was too fast.

[Brent]

That's true. Yeah, that's true. I, I see what you did there.

[Dale Comstock]

There. Yeah.

[Magnet]

Still got to be able to drive.

[Brent]

Eaten Beaver says if Magnet is here, who's guarding the garden?

[Magnet]

Amanda.

[Brent]

I, I, I know what you're getting out there.

[Dale Comstock]

Y.

[Magnet]

She's bigger than all of us. All right.

[Brent]

I know you keep asking that. It'll change a little bit, but it'll be. It's quick as you can. I'll let you describe them. Brenner, Dale, what's the difference in personalities between the squadrons? How would you describe it?

[Dale Comstock]

The way I would describe when I was there. Our squadron was very more, More regimented discipline, more military. We Were more conservative. I guess that's the way to put it. We didn't have the long flowing hair. And, you know, there was. We still kind of adhered to some grooming standards.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

Wouldn't. Out of control. I remember one of the squadrons was. They were just the. They. They were the guys who want to do all the fun training. Right. The, you know, the go fly gyrocopters or whatever the hell they were doing.

[Brent]

You're speaking of C. Long hair, fun training. I know, I know.

[Dale Comstock]

And then the B squad was kind of somewhere in between. You know, they were. If I had to describe them, like more like the preppy guys. Right.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Were they doing the. The B squadron blow off back then? That. That. That takes some time to develop.

[Dale Comstock]

The.

[Brent]

What we call it the B squadron blow off. It didn't really happen during my time, but at some point, B became kind of aloof and like, hey, you. You don't talk to anyone else.

[Dale Comstock]

No, there was.

[Brent]

They were a little bit ranger rific to some degree as well. But again, that was at the very tail when I got there. That. That was a tail end of it. And that was kind of being phased out. But that culture stuck around to some degree for a little bit.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, they were kind of. Only I can kind of describe them as. They were a little bit more preppy. We were more conservative, more military minded, more disciplined, I think. And yeah, you write C squad, they were all the, you know, wild men.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew Tucker]

People Dale. They want to know what your go to ice cream is.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Dale Comstock]

Well, it was always rum raisin until I discovered apple pie. Apple pie, ice cream. I can't find it anymore, but man, was that good. But yeah, rum raisin.

[Brent]

Oh, Russell Ridge, don't even try me with the 3. I302 coyote. I know all about it. And I raise you the LS3. And an LS3.6.2 will walk circles around the 3.302 coyote all day, every day. And you know that. And you should be embarrassed by even putting that up there.

[Drew Tucker]

There's no replacement for displacement.

[Brent]

That Drew gets it. And he's a Ford guy.

[Dale Comstock]

Y.

[Brent]

And that's just. And that's just a hard truth. Yeah. All right, that's the end of the show. We're going to go around. Kevin, I'll give it to you. What's. What's your last word?

[Kevin Honan]

Long or short?

[Brent]

I don't know what he just said that. I really don't know what he said.

[Kevin Honan]

Long word or short word?

[Brent]

Oh, you got like 20:30 seconds. What do you got?

[Kevin Honan]

Never judge a book by its cover because as we touched on with a question that was put to Dale earlier, you know, not all the facts can be talked about publicly on certain topics and subjects. And even at the worst case scenario where people make mistakes, nobody wants to be judged by their worst moment for the rest of their lives. So I think we need to have compassion for each other and understanding. And if we can keep those in our focus, that can help navigate us through what's probably going to be some interesting times.

[Brent]

Okay. Nice magnet. What say you?

[Magnet]

I'm not as intelligent as that, but go check out LionArmsUSA.com and there's a new shirt coming out. It got dropped last night on the Patreon. So if you're a Patreon member, go check it out. If not, subscribe. Do it.

[Brent]

Do it. Tier 1 podcast. Patreon. Do it. Drew, what do you got?

[Drew Tucker]

Well, guys, go to frcc. Shop for the best coffee, cigars, and bourbon you've ever had, in my opinion.

[Brent]

And

[Drew Tucker]

Truth in the Dark is my YouTube podcast. I do a live almost every Sunday night at 7 o' clock Eastern Time. Won't happen this Sunday because I'll be out of town, but check it out when you can.

[Brent]

All right, Dale, you are in the hot seat and the guest of honor, you get truly the last word.

[Dale Comstock]

All right, great. Yeah. You know, I don't even know where to start on this.

[Brent]

Yeah, the most time I went to everyone, you knew it was coming to you.

[Dale Comstock]

Yeah, I know. I still think about what he said earlier.

[Brent]

Interpret all that.

[Dale Comstock]

I don't say the same thing again.

[Kevin Honan]

Your accent is not that difficult.

[Dale Comstock]

No. You know, I've been on a lot of podcasts since really, since 2011 after I started doing the Hollywood stuff. And I've always come on these podcasts. Not here to brag. You know, people can interpret things the way they want. I don't make money off these podcasts. I don't. I like to go out here and I run my own businesses. I travel around. You know, I live a pretty good life. And so what I like doing is training and teaching and sharing information with people. I always have. I've always been, I think, a teacher to some degree or another. So when I get on these shows, it's here to share experiences. Maybe somebody will learn something from it. I'm. Sometimes I'm really disappointed. That's why I stopped reading the comments a long time ago, because people will sit there and judge you. They'll, you know, they'll hate you for no other reason. It's just really some looking in their own mirror going, you know, it's. That's all it is. It's just, yeah, they don't measure up or they don't feel like they measure up, so they got to tear you down. Like the old saying goes, sometimes people will blow out your candle and make theirs burn brighter. But that's all I'm here to do, is help people share information, share experiences. And I think the world is bigger than, you know, just shooting people. I know guys want to hear the cool war stories, and there's, there's a place for all that, but I also think there's a place for, you know, personal and professional development and learning from others. And that's all I'm here to do, is just share information. Comment Expanding on the comment Kevin said earlier, somebody, you know, asked a really an accusatory question. Of course, I didn't answer it like they were hoping because. And I was deliberate because like he said, you don't know what you don't know. And I've told this. I've told this to lawyers, I've told this to journalists. Okay? I. You get to know what I want you to know. Right. I'm not a fool. And so I'm gonna. Either I'm gonna tell you what I want you to know, or I'm going to tell you a lie and have you go down different rabbit holes and laugh at your ass. I'm just not going to sit here and incriminate myself or talk about something you know nothing about. I'm not here to share information related to stuff that allegedly happened because, you know, there is a. I am in litigation. So my. I guess if I had to say anything to everybody out there. Stop being so judgmental, all right? And just remember, you don't know what you don't know. Take the information, process it, whatever it is, and ask yourself, is this valuable to me or not? If it's not, just discard it. If it's valuable, great. You learned something. Yeah. Everybody just stopped being so damn nasty, man. That's all I can. You know, it doesn't bother me. I don't give a what you think about me. I really don't. But let's try to do better, you know? Let's try to do better as humans and men, you know? Can we do that? So that's my thing, man. Thanks for having me on the show. Absolutely. I like sharing information. You know, I chomp at the bit to do that.

[Brent]

Yeah. And you've done plenty of that, and I'm grateful. And so is 99.999 of the audience tonight. And. And all the people that watch this, I assure you guys, that's it for another live. It's a. It was a special Wednesday Night Live. We're gonna see you in less than 24 hours. In about 21 hours, we'll do it all over again, and this time with the strength and conditioning coach, former Green Beret Rusty Wit, who's at the University of Florida, making young men better as well. And I love that aspect about him. And we'll talk all about that tomorrow night. Thank you, guys. See you soon.

[Dale Comstock]

Awesome.