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Doing it.
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All right.
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Right.
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Welcome back to the tier one podcast live. It's another Thursday night. We're on a roll here, Drew. We doing three Thursday nights in a row.
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It's for the boys, man.
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It's for the boys.
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Boys.
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Yeah. Okay. All right.
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Yeah.
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Here we are.
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All right. Anyway, welcome back. It is another Thursday night live. We have a grif us this Thursday night. We have Xavier Lindoff extraordinaire over on the couch. We have a whole group here. Devin's back. We have a patreon member, David, all the way from the UK over a little bit off camera. Don't worry. Magnets here. I guess he doesn't want to get too close to David. He thinks his Britishness will rub off on him. Rich is Richmond's over here. Drew, as always, is behind the mic and the producer stand spinning the ones and twos.
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We.
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We. Let's go.
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I got you on sp.
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Take it.
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I'll take it. All right. If you guys don't know who the man next to me is, the man, the myth, the legend, Xavier Landoff. Let me. Let me tell you, we should have recorded session with them. That'll drop here in a few weeks. Former force force recon, Green beret, Delta force operator, and now you go around the world teaching people longdistance shooting sniper courses. Thanks for. Thanks for sticking around after the recording.
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I appreciate you having me, man.
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You didn't have anything else to do because you flew in all the way from Portugal, so you weren't going anywhere else.
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I. I mean, there's a. There's an outback over here,
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so I don't want to give you too much credit. Me and X used to be on the same team together. We go way back. So it's really, really cool getting to. To hang out with an old teammate of mine and. And I say this and actually hear his story. You know, we worked together, and it wasn't until today that I knew your whole story. How crazy is that?
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Well, like we talked about, man, a lot of times we're busy with whether it's training, preparing for training. Wow. And when there is some downtime, go home and try to relax a little bit. Plus the jokes in the team room and just giving people a hard time, that takes up most of the time.
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Most of them. We got to do something that we don't normally do. We got to talk about the history of not just the history, but where. Long range shooting. Where it was, where it is today. How the 7, 6, 2 round stuck around for decades and it really wasn't until randomly the last decade that now, now you have options. You got 260, you got six fives, you got you know, three three eights which really wasn't a thing back in the day and everything, everything in between.
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Well especially the semi automatic weapon systems these days, man.
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We didn't even get to to talk about that. But you know the really the pioneer and what I consider to still be the leader in that like the LaRue OBR that brought the SEM long range gun at least in their 762 platform that was just as accurate as the bolt guns. In fact I'm like gosh, you don't like talking about. Why do you make me talk about things like this? X?
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That's what I do.
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When I lost the international sniper competition and came in second place, the, the first group team with that first group, the first place team, that one, they were both shooting Larue semi automatic OBRS
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proofs in the pudding, man.
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Yeah, yeah they were. It definitely helped to have a semi automatic rifle in that competition but before that no one was going to bring one because. Oh really? No one? Well, who else would. Why would you bring a semi automatic rifle as your primary option? Because you, you had options you, you could bring. But that, that one rules them all because it's a half minute of angle gun as a, as a semi automatic gun.
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Like it's where individuals just afraid to lose that accuracy. Obviously.
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Yeah. Because. Because some rounds cared speed wasn't an issue, just accuracy. In some rounds, speed over accuracy. But with that one gun you never had to guess which, which one to bring. Yeah, yeah, one one for all of them. The. We talked about truing a gun which is a you know a, a little bit longer conversation than want to have right now. But it's, but it's a cool conversation. Listen, the episode we talk about Coriolis effect. What's the other word?
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Oatvos.
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Oatvos. Yeah. Which is similar. A left and right Coriolis effect if you will.
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Coriolis is left and right. Exactly.
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Yeah.
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The other one is up or down.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So all of that is there. If you guys have any gun questions, long range questions. Xavier has promised me he will answer every single one that you have in great detail incorrectly.
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You gotta pay for accuracy.
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This accuracy. Yes.
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All right, let's, let's get into it man. Can't wait to start this show. And this, there's no other way we can start this show. But we have two new medal of honor Recipients.
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Yes.
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Among us. True. Pull them up.
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Yes.
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Now. Interesting. Interesting enough. Everyone's talking about Eric Slover for whatever. I shouldn't say for whatever reason, but he's getting like the lion share of. Of attention.
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Yes.
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But retired Navy Captain Royce Williams, he just now got it. And I read somewhere that his mission was. Or. And. And what happened that day was recently declassified, which is one reason why. Why it took so long. I don't care why it took so long. Well, I bet he does, but I'm so glad. Man's 100 years old, just won the Medals of Honor. Yeah. Just received it. All right, we'll pull off that until we talk about Eric Silver. But let me tell you about. Let me tell you about Royce Williams. I don't know. To be a hundred years old and to have balls as big as he has, and I guess he's had him since November 18, 1952, because let me tell you what this man did. November 18, 1952, he takes off from his aircraft carrier. He takes off by himself and almost immediately finds himself in a dog fight. He flies up in the clouds minutes away, and he finds him in a 1 verse 7 dog fight with mig, 15 jets.
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1v7.
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1v7. That's okay. He's an American, so. So the odds are still in his favor.
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He's excited. This is a target rich environment, boys.
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He's got him right where he wants.
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He's got it right where he wants them. And the battle lasted 35 minutes, which I bet felt like an eternity, like hours. And when it's all said and done, he downs four of them and the other three are like, we're deuces.
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Time to go home.
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Yeah, we mess with the wrong one. Yeah.
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So let's rethink this guy's.
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But here's the cr.
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If.
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As if that story could get any crazier. The next day, the crew goes out to his F9 F5 Panther jet, and they count 263 holes in his aircraft.
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He was still. And he still brought it back.
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And he brought it back and landed it. What?
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America.
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America where?
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That is amazing.
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I mean, of course I want to say, you know, where do they make men like that? Well, America. But if. But still, where do they make jets like that? America. Also America.
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Also America.
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You know, that's fun to say, and I'm not trying to be overly humble. It's just true. Like, it's. Yeah, it's fun to. To be like, yeah, we produce that, but we've grown up and We've, we've, we've lived in this country. We've operated at the, at the highest level. And I'm still just enamored by men like that.
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It. They were different back then, I think, that type of warfare. And not only that, the, the type of guys that at least you read about stories like this way different than how I feel about.
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Yeah.
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Some of the things that we've done.
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That story essentially just got released. Hollywood, I have a challenge for you. Stop making stupid movies about global warming, whatever it is, make this movie and do it right. And you don't have to Hollywood it up. But sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. Right.
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Yeah.
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Do that story. He should be remembered for generations.
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Ah, it's amazing that you should play his character now.
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Yeah, yeah, that was. Yeah, now.
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Yeah, now we're talking.
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I should, because I believe I just gave them the idea and now I should be the main character.
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Got an idea?
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Yeah, I have an idea. Let's, let's go back to the, to the picture. Drew now retired Navy Captain Royce Williams. Just. That's. That, that story gets me going because it's just a crazy story. This one gets me going a different way because we have an affinity for the boys of the 160.
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Yes, sir.
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I mean, they're, they're, they're the best in the world. You can always have the argument about SEAL Team 6 and Delta, and it's always, it's always in jest because we know it's Delta, but they never, like, there's no argument who are the best pilots in the world. These guys are, and they're amazing. This guy gets his. Gets his due. CW 5. Eric Slover. He was one of the 47 pilots on the Maduro raid. They started taking machine gun fire in almost every direction. He takes two hits, one to his leg and one to his hip. That's why he was walking with a, with a walker. Still at the ceremony, he maneuvers, knowing that, that he can't continue this way and he can't put the boys on the ground under such fire. He maneuvers his helicopter to allow the machine guns to take out all the enemy fighter positions and then continues as he's bleeding out and puts the boys down safely, right where they're supposed. Supposed to go. And it wasn't until after that he looks at his co pilot, who, by the way, is also wounded, and says, make sure I'm about to pass out, and then hands off controls to him.
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It's amazing, man.
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Again, where, you know, you said it's A different generation. I know what you're. You know, what you meant by that. But what. Where do we get men like this? Like.
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It's pretty amazing.
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It's humbling. It's absolutely. God, just must. It must be a chant. Usa. Just randomly, for no reason.
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Usa. Usa. Usa.
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It's just. It's. It's amazing. These. These men deserve to be celebrated. And they'll. And they'll. If it wasn't for this, they'd never do it themselves and no one would ever tell this story.
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That is true.
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And I love that. That it's out. What are you about to say?
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No, I was going to say that getting into these aircraft with these pilots for the first time, when we start working with them and seeing what they can do, the way that you can maneuver those helicopters, it's. It is. It is unbelievable.
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You know, I've seen them put little birds in alleyways that I thought the alloy was smaller than. Than the. Than the width of the blades.
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Yes.
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You know, and. And they're putting it down. They're balancing on rooftops.
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Exactly.
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On ledges that. Of. Of. To some degree, almost any helicopter pilot or tactical helicopter pilot can. That's not. What's so amazing about it, is that they will put it there on that ledge in about two seconds flat.
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And stay there.
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And stay there. Never have to reposition because they landed it perfectly the first time while you get out. And then they're off in a. In the. In a millisecond after the last man's foot leaves. That leaves the pod. And they're gone. Like, they're. Like they were never there. It's just. It's amazing to watch.
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It is.
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It's impressive to see if you haven't seen it. It's. It's even. It's even hard to describe, to be honest. I mean, we're doing our best, but until you see it, until you see a Hilo land that fast, flare that hard at the very last second. Oh, yeah, yeah. You remember being on those birds.
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Yes, sir.
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The first. And there are still times later in my career I still did that, but the one. The first year you're there, it feels like you never get used to it. They're coming in so hard so fast. You start puckering up. Really. We're gonna. You're gonna crash. We're gonna crash. Lift your legs up. Like, you start tensing up, and then. Boop. They hit the ground. And of course.
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Oh, yeah, let's go.
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Yeah, yeah. And then all your teammates that are better than you, more experienced and faster they're gone and you're like, dang it, I'm never going to catch up now. Yeah, I've got to get used to this.
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I'm still messing with the ropes. Wait a minute. Hold on.
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Oh, man.
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Those got an interesting question. Why are the metal of. Why are the metals different looking? Is it a Navy army thing?
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Is it a time period question?
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I agree.
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I think that that is the reason.
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It is. It is a. It is a Navy army thing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Each branch actually has a very. Just a slightly different metal on it. That's a good question. That's a good question.
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Like that.
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Oh, David Hook said's in the comments. All right, let's. Let's go to the. Before we get too deep into this, let's. Let's go to some super chats.
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The super chats start out Piercy. 226. 50 bucks, man. Thank you so much for helping pay the bills. Really appreciate it. David Hookstead, he says shout out to the men and women's hockey teams for winning gold.
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We're gonna get to that.
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Amazing. Both of them. I love it. And most importantly, Eric Slover for his medal of honor. America is on a roll, baby, and we're not slowing down. It's cool to love this country.
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That. And that's going to be the theme. I'm tell you right now. That's gonna be the theme of this show. It's cool to love this country. Both sides. It's. I'm just as bad at it at times. Sometimes. It's. It's in jest, but we. We've. We've got to stop being the. The divided States of America. We have to. I agree. We have to. And oddly enough, the. The. The dark horse of. Of this. A catalyst of this could be, at least for a moment in time, the men's hockey team. And we're going to talk about that later here in a second. I don't watch hockey. I could care less about hockey to some degree.
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I'm interested now.
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The. The Florida Panthers won the. The Stanley Cup. Me and Devon went out that night to. To go watch him. Was that game six?
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It was the last of.
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It was.
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Hold on. Okay, go ahead.
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You just keep that mic on Drew.
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Well, okay.
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Okay. Was it game seven? Yeah, it was the last one. Yeah. When we won. Because they were at elbow Room in the morning with the Stanley cup pouring drinks off the balcony. Yeah, it was. So I was. I was interested in that game. Really. It's more of a Florida Thing, you know, than, than hockey of sorts. Or maybe it's because my girlfriend was. Now I'm interested.
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Florida is known for hockey.
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You know, between the Lightning and the Panthers. Apparently we are. I don't. Although we're full of foreigners on our hockey teams. But there are hockey teams.
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Where are they from?
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They're not from Florida. But. But we owe them. Yes, the. But I, I. When I found out they were going to be in the. All right, so let me take a step back. So I, I cared a little bit about hockey in the Stanley Cup. What was that tournament they did, the four nations tournament. Is that was whatever Canada boot us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We lost that to, To Canada.
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Oh, was that. Yeah, they started. It was straight away.
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That's where this started. But I got interested in that because there's only four countries in it.
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Okay.
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I got. I didn't even get interested until Canada Buddhists. And I was like, now I'm interested.
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Yeah.
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Right. And we did beat them that game, but we. We lost the, the following games and Canada won. So now I'm interested in. In the Olympics. Although I didn't watch a single Olympic hockey game. I kind of followed them. I was hoping they were still in when they were going the gold medal then was like, yeah, they play tomorrow at 8am 8am and I was like, well, now we're waking up at 8am and I'm going to watch this game. Okay. I watched every second of it. I loved it. Don't you do that to me. I loved it. And I was so nervous when it went to overtime. I mean, it would have. It would have ruined my day had we lost. I was. I haven't felt. I haven't been that invested in a game like, outside of college football, like when the Gators play.
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Gotcha.
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Loved it. Oh, my gosh.
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I missed it, man. I just know they won, but I missed it. Yes, the game.
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And it was. And truly, it's an amazing story. It brought everyone together. By the way, I would. Let me know if you get behind me on this. I'm going to rename it Ice Football.
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Why?
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Because. Well, because we're the champs and we earned it. Because we earned it.
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Right. So you can rename it.
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You sure? Ever heard of Gulf of America X? I think we collectively renamed Canada 2 to East Alaska.
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I think that.
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Yeah, there's a lot going on here. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we renamed the Indian territories after we won. That's how it works when you win. You get to rename stuff. I'm Going ice football for the now on ice football. Okay, we'll.
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We'll see how much, how long that lasts, I think.
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Well, it lasts for another four years, I guess. And if you, and if you don't like the name, beat us. And then you can take it back to hockey. That's, That's. I don't know. That's. Those are my thoughts.
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The Olympic committee.
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Yeah. Welcome to Thursday night. All right, what else we got?
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Drew, Sack full of nades with a C note. It says Brent, Drew, and even magnet. So good to hear my name called out again on live. It's been too long. Half sack full of nades. Now that joke will be funnier once you read my DM to y' all on Patreon. God is good. Keep holding the standard, gentlemen. First Peter five, six through seven.
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So sack full of nades. I read your, your last Patreon comment that he, he says he's, he just got back from overseas, he's got some medical things. And so I said, hey, what's, you know what, man, welcome back. What's hope for the medical thing isn't that serious. And I haven't read his reply yet. Now interested to see what his, his reply is. By the way, speaking of, of Patreon, I have to do this gingerly, but this is the last week. All you have to do is sign up for Patreon. You don't have to go to another thing of Patreon and sign up. It's a one step and done. Just sign up for Patreon and somebody in our Patreon for free as it sits. Don't say the word. Don't say the word. If you look at the screen, this thing right here is getting given away to a Patreon member.
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Just given away.
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Just giving away. Thanks for being on Patreon. Thanks for the ten dollars. There's a two thousand dollar thing who almost said it.
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Still two weeks. Two weeks without power.
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Oh, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. What else we got, Drew?
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We got Bright side of the moon. $300, bro. If you would have put down a. A song, you'd probably be the winner.
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Yeah, man.
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Thank you so very, very much. Shout out to the. I mean, really, a gift like that is humbling, man. Really. Thank you. Shout out to the amazing organizations helping the most helpless children. Sentinel Foundation, E3 Foundation.
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E3 is another good one.
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Covenant Rescue Group and Tim Tebow. I believe you work with Sentinel.
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Yep.
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Any others you've worked with or any you would add to the list?
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All Three of those I, I have worked with in one capacity or another. Those, those are my top three. Easy. Those are my top three.
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Let's see. Holy fook says. Guys, can you explain for Medal of Honor recipient Eric Slover. Is it Slover? Slover. Slover. Slover. His two shoulder patches. Right shoulder has the delta patch, and left shoulder, the airborne patch. Can T160 guys be airborne qualified? I'm confused.
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So hold on. They, they can be airborne qualified, but the airborne tab or the, the Airborne. Yeah, tab on your shoulder, that is part of the unit patch. So whether you. The 101st Airborne Division still has airborne over, you know, over their, their, the Screaming Eagle. But it doesn't, it doesn't mean that you are airborne, Correct? Right. It's. It's, it's a unit patch, so it's, it is literally part of, of the unit patch. Do you, do you recognize this combat patch by chance? Kind of looks like 173rd for a second, but I don't think it's that.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm trying. I was trying to figure it out, but yeah.
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But anyway, but there's, there's, there's, there's the answer to that. Hope that. Hope that clears it up.
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KDI says Mr. Taint, you should have James Fishback, Florida goober, natural gubernatorial. Goober. Natural.
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You put the goober and gubernatorial.
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Well, X ruined it for me. I was really going to play with that one for a while.
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Oh, my bad.
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No, you did. You did.
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You got to let me know. You got to let me in on the joke you fixed.
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I'm the joke. X. I don't know these words. Florida. What ex said candidate on. I'd like to hear the conversation between y'.
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All. Okay. Yeah, I will look into James Fishback. We're shoring it up now.
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What's a gubernatorial X?
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It's. I think it's a part. Something that you get out of your nostrils.
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Yeah.
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Well played. Yeah, it's a natural goober.
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The. Gosh, I can't believe I'm, I can't think of his name right now, but right now he is the lieutenant governor of the state, and so I should know his name. He is. He is running for governor, and he is Jake Collins, and he's a former Green Beret. He's only got one leg or maybe, maybe it's his foot. I don't know if it's knee down or whatever it is, but. Yeah. And so he's, he's coming on the, he's coming the show. So hopefully. And I will, and I will listen to, to Jay James Fishburne as well. But I'm very interested. If he, if he shares the same vision that Ron DeSantis has, who's done a great job for this state, then it'll be, it'll be hard to unseat him because he's, he's been, he's been doing it.
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Who are like, who are the candidates right now?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Byron Daniels, I believe is, is also Donalds.
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Donalds.
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Donald's. Thank you. Thank you. Byron Donalds. I guess Fishburne and Jay Collins. I'm sure there's a few more, but those, those are all I can think off the top of my head.
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Okay.
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But I also want to know just because you're Lieutenant governor, I want to know what, what you disagree with on Ron DeSantis, you know, just because, just lieutenant governor. Yes, lieutenant governor. What would you, what you've done differently? Like yeah, are you the, are you the protege? Are you just, are you just a copy and paste or you know, or
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like how would he change things?
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Yes. Yeah. What would you do better? And that wouldn't be a hit on Ron DeSantis? We should always be looking for what can we do better. Agree. I mean, I mean that's, that's all we did at the unit. Go do a hit. And unashamedly we did the best hit in the world. But it still wasn't perfect. The only thing we'd come back and talk about was all right, where do we screw it up? What could do we better?
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And who did it?
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Stand up so everyone can see you again. What else we got, Jerry?
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Teddy Roosevelt says Brent, you to man. Finally got a chance to try the coffee was awesome. And ordering some extra bags from a boys at the pd. Keep the podcast coming.
- [26:20]
B
Heck yeah. Heck yeah. In fact, speaking of the Patreon real quick, I believe it was a Patreon member this. The one of my very first guests on episode one was Darren Beheeler. Went through the Q course with him Bo. He's. He is part of a non profit 50 for the fallen. They do a amazing job of raising money for. For, for veterans. Please, if you guys want to give up, give donate to a an organization like that 50 for the fallen that that is your go to. But all during the the Q course he would only refer to Texas as the great state of Texas. I've never heard him call it anything else.
- [27:05]
C
So only the great state of Texas.
- [27:07]
B
The only way he knows how to refer Texas alone. Yeah. It's not enough. So it actually was years later. I wish I'd have done it while we were still hanging out every day, like, in the Q course. But years later, when Florida did me proud, I started referring to Florida as the great state of Florida, and I kind of forgot that I'd been doing that. And so when he came for the podcast, I started talking about, oh, the great state of Florida. He's like, brent, don't do that. I was like, oh, that's right. I kind of forgot. Like, oh, that's right.
- [27:33]
C
I weren't really feeling it. Like, he's feeling it for Texas.
- [27:36]
B
I am now. Okay. I am now. So one of our listeners hit me up or sent this shirt out.
- [27:44]
C
I. Oh, that's what it is.
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A
Ah, the great state.
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B
The camera. This. The camera on me. There we go. There is a T shirt. One of. One of one. And. And Bo. I got a feeling you're. He usually watches. I got a feeling you're watching. And that one's for you. I bet you don't have a shirt. This is a great state of Texas.
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C
Yeah.
- [28:06]
A
Do you have a shirt?
- [28:06]
B
Yeah, yeah. The next shirt. The next shirt. I want to say the gunshine state. The gunshine state.
- [28:14]
C
I like that one, though. Yeah, that's a good one.
- [28:17]
B
In fact, we're so proud of Florida. David.
- [28:21]
C
Yes.
- [28:22]
B
You're gonna need a mic.
- [28:23]
C
Oh, my bad.
- [28:26]
B
That's okay. You don't have to go to the mic. The mic will come to you. Or unless you're just trying to sit closer to Devon. I get that. I get that. All right. Make sure it's close to your. To your. To your face. How you. How you enjoying your time in Florida?
- [28:38]
C
I love it.
- [28:39]
B
That's why I keep coming back here.
- [28:40]
C
I think this is my seventh visit.
- [28:42]
B
Seventh visit. Yep.
- [28:44]
A
Favorite place.
- [28:45]
B
That might be more times than I've been to the uk. I got a handful of UK visits, so that. That might. That might up me on that one.
- [28:50]
C
It's. It's because of the roller coasters. It's not because of you.
- [28:55]
B
Yeah. And by the way, in case you guys know, the. He's. He's being humble right now because he's on camera, but he's. He's told everyone to refer to. To refer to him as Lord David while. While he's here.
- [29:08]
A
Well, you know, it's very English.
- [29:11]
C
He was acting funny earlier. I knew it.
- [29:15]
B
Well, I'm glad that you're enjoying your time here so much. Keep it on. Drew Rich, right behind you or right between the couch and you moved it. They moved it. Do you know. Do you know what I'm looking for, though? Magnet. Magnet. Do you know?
- [29:29]
A
It's right there on the stair. A little white, little red.
- [29:32]
B
White.
- [29:32]
A
Little red. While they're looking for that, just. By the way, our friend. Our friend David was swimming with sharks this morning on the coast of Florida. The guy was swimming, which. I've been in Florida my whole life. Never went swimming with sharks.
- [29:48]
C
No cage either, right?
- [29:49]
B
No cage.
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A
Yeah, no cage.
- [29:50]
C
Snorkel.
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A
No cage. What we're doing with sharks.
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B
What are we doing?
- [29:54]
A
What you got there, brother?
- [29:55]
C
Send him the dive school.
- [29:56]
B
That's right, David. That's for you to. To remember. You've been here seven times, but now you're on the Tier one podcast this time. And Swimming with Sharks. This is your greatest trip. And you can hang that, hopefully.
- [30:09]
C
Fantastic.
- [30:10]
A
Thank you so much. Florida.
- [30:12]
B
Now. Lord David, I want. I want to let you know there's a chance that flag offends someone, and I don't want you to get in legal trouble in the UK by flying something that offends someone. No, it's only the uk. The. The Union Jack can be offensive. Yeah. All right. So I want to make sure so much. I really. Absolutely. That's. That's for you from us. We'll all.
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A
We'll.
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B
We'll all sign it before. Before. Before you head out. Don't let me forget. Thank you. Absolutely.
- [30:39]
C
Pretty cool, man.
- [30:40]
B
Thank you. Yeah. All right, back to super chats.
- [30:43]
A
Let's see. Teddy Roosevelt back in says, did anyone ever explain what was up with Tim Kennedy wearing a USA sock patch? USA Soc.
- [30:58]
B
Use the sock.
- [30:59]
A
Use the sock.
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B
There it is.
- [31:00]
C
No, I like USA Soccer.
- [31:03]
A
USA sock. Those are the guys that fought in the Guat, Right?
- [31:07]
B
Exactly. Yes, yes, yes.
- [31:10]
A
I know what I'm talking about.
- [31:11]
C
Let's say sock in the guad. I like it.
- [31:13]
A
Nailed it.
- [31:14]
B
All right. Yes, I do know what's. What's up with that? And let me tell you, Uses Ock was not very happy with that, and they told him to take that off and don't ever wear it again.
- [31:24]
C
Oh, seriously?
- [31:24]
B
He wore it at the Army's birthday up in D.C. not authorized to wear it, but he wanted to look cool, so. So he wore it and use a sock.
- [31:36]
C
Said he's still in, isn't he?
- [31:38]
B
He's. Yeah, he's in the National Guard. Yeah, he's in the Maryland National Guard for now. He's under investigation for all of his shenanigans because someone Was brave enough to expose him.
- [31:54]
A
They should give him a medal. Yeah, yeah.
- [32:01]
C
He should be in a movie, that one.
- [32:03]
A
You should be in a lawsu.
- [32:07]
B
All right, now I just being a jerk. I think that's presidential with presidential Medal of Freedom worthy.
- [32:16]
A
Definitely nomination.
- [32:17]
B
Give me a nomination.
- [32:18]
A
Definitely.
- [32:18]
B
What else we got?
- [32:19]
A
Runner up. All right. I guess that's North Carolina Mountain Man 89. I have heard lots of off reports of operators helping retrieve craft. Have either of you seen anything otherworldly? UFOs?
- [32:38]
B
I haven't. But I will tell you this. I've. I've done some low vis missions with X. That as he's like coming towards me, his oddly shaped head and. And ears looks very alien like. And I got nervous and then I was like, oh, that's just X. That's the closest I've been. Get that. That's the closest I've to greatness
- [33:03]
C
because I'm otherworldly. That's the reason I've.
- [33:08]
B
I've never. I've never.
- [33:10]
C
I remember. I remember that because you were in awe that day.
- [33:13]
B
It was the moon shining like a halo from behind you.
- [33:17]
C
I think you kneeled. I said, brent, no, no, no, we're good, we're good. We're not in DZ posture.
- [33:26]
A
I'm just a man, like you
- [33:29]
C
just better.
- [33:34]
A
Don't kid.
- [33:36]
B
Just anything you want to weigh in about aliens.
- [33:41]
C
I believe there are, I think, us being the only life in the entire universe, and we don't so many places that we've never been to. I think that'd be a little,
- [33:54]
B
I
- [33:54]
C
don't know, not accurate.
- [33:56]
B
Have you seen them? No. All right, that's gonna be.
- [33:59]
C
I've heard about them.
- [34:00]
B
That's gonna be a big sticking point.
- [34:02]
A
Have you ever been to San Francisco?
- [34:04]
B
I'm gonna need to see one. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a.
- [34:08]
C
To believe in it.
- [34:09]
B
Yes, absolutely. I'm a show me guy.
- [34:12]
A
Okay.
- [34:12]
B
Okay. Show me what? What? What is it? What is it? Magnetic?
- [34:17]
A
What you got?
- [34:18]
C
I said I'm from out of this world.
- [34:20]
A
He said, he's from out of this world. Magnus. From out of this world.
- [34:23]
B
Did you stop the podcast just to say that?
- [34:25]
C
Yeah.
- [34:26]
B
Okay. All right. What is. What else we got? Why is running that on? Can you. Can you run the cat caddy up here for me, please? Okay, what's next, Drew?
- [34:40]
A
Oh, just another 11. Bravo says can y' all take Pritzker, which is Illinois's governor, quote unquote, fishing in Florida.
- [34:51]
C
We'll send it with Dave.
- [34:52]
A
Yeah, you can Swim in sharks with David.
- [34:54]
B
Yeah.
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A
Lord David. Excuse me. I'm sorry, sir.
- [34:59]
C
All right, you know better. Drew, come on. Let's see.
- [35:02]
B
Did you on. Not yet. Okay.
- [35:04]
C
Thank you, bro.
- [35:04]
B
Real quick while we're talking about that. And on a serious note, I have. I've always wanted to go swimming with sharks. I mean, it's just a Florida man thing to do. There's two Florida man things I don't think I've. I've. I've done that. I feel like every Florida man should. I haven't gotten alligator hunting. Like, wow, that's a half truth. I've killed plenty of alligators in. In Grand Daddy.
- [35:30]
C
What happened there?
- [35:31]
B
There's got to be a statue of limitations on that.
- [35:33]
A
Probably. Okay, but just to keep.
- [35:36]
B
Okay, but what I want to do is go gator hunting and then get a pair of cowboy boots made out of the gator I killed along with the matching belt.
- [35:47]
A
Yeah.
- [35:48]
B
Jewel of the Nile. I bought a pair. But I feel like. I feel like a. I feel like a poser when I wear them. I'm like, I didn't kill it. You didn't earn those. Yeah, I didn't earn those boots. And the second one is swimming with sharks. I would.
- [36:01]
C
Okay.
- [36:03]
B
Lord David didn't do it in a cage. How. How am I supposed to do it in a cage if he didn't? He's a lord.
- [36:09]
C
I can do that.
- [36:10]
B
What was. Talk about the we're. You weren't in. Were you in dive gear for this wetsuit and snorkel. Okay, so on a breath hold wetsuit. Yeah.
- [36:20]
C
Yeah.
- [36:21]
B
Okay. Was there anything that surprised you about that or did you get nervous when they act when you're. When you're seeing a shark for the first time and, and there's no cage regardless of nurse shark. There were bull sharks. Bull sharks are notoriously aggressive here in Florida. Nervous at all?
- [36:39]
A
Momentarily.
- [36:40]
B
Yeah.
- [36:40]
C
I'd be lying if I said I
- [36:41]
B
wasn't, but I wanted to do it, so it was. Yeah.
- [36:44]
C
It's one of those things where I
- [36:46]
B
trust the guys doing the tour operator. Right. I mean, they're still around, so. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
- [36:51]
A
Yeah.
- [36:52]
C
If they say it's okay for me, they're around today.
- [36:59]
B
Yeah. I didn't ask about the staff turnover. Right.
- [37:01]
A
The odds were in your favor.
- [37:02]
C
Right.
- [37:02]
B
And they don't have to be the fastest. They just have to be faster than you to stay alive. Yeah, but that's good thing you weren't thinking about all those things.
- [37:09]
C
No, no, no.
- [37:10]
B
Yeah.
- [37:11]
C
Never crossed my mind. They just told they just pointed directs like, hey, just swim over there.
- [37:15]
B
Get a little closer. You get a little closer. What, did you get to touch any of them?
- [37:19]
C
No, they kind of discouraged that, but it was okay. Within five feet.
- [37:24]
B
Within five feet, yeah. I'll take that. All right, let me. Where. Where was it? Jupiter. Devon would hate to go to Jupiter again. Yeah. All right. Yeah, yeah. Give me in touch with, you know, with. With those guys.
- [37:38]
A
Did you see any aliens while you were at Jupiter?
- [37:41]
B
No, Drew, I tied those in. Okay.
- [37:45]
A
Oh, there's the anus.
- [37:47]
B
Never mind.
- [37:49]
A
Thomas, Melvin, thank you, man. Appreciate it very much. Let's see. We missed them here. Holy fook. Back in again, says Xavier. What do you believe in more, UFOs or Bigfoot? Any encounters with either that you can speak about?
- [38:07]
C
I haven't had any encounters with either one of them. I believe more in UFOs than Bigfoot.
- [38:14]
B
Why? You haven't seen either one of them? No. So what is it?
- [38:18]
C
I haven't.
- [38:19]
B
You think it's more. You think it's more probable that someone outside of this universe is there than a creature inside this universe like Bigfoot?
- [38:31]
C
I think so, yeah.
- [38:32]
B
Okay.
- [38:33]
C
Yeah.
- [38:34]
B
All right.
- [38:34]
C
I do.
- [38:35]
B
What else we got?
- [38:38]
A
Groff says, how often did you see unit guys come straight from 80 seconds, 173rd or conventional infantry? And if so, how did they measure up?
- [38:49]
C
There were some.
- [38:50]
B
There were some not the norm. I almost put a one out of number. I was like, oh, don't do that.
- [38:57]
C
I wouldn't know either. I wouldn't know. Anyways.
- [38:59]
B
Yeah, it's. Well, I'll say this. It's. It's. It's very rare. And, and really, the. Even when they do. I'm just being honest. Do they deserve to be there? Yes, they. They passed the course and they've met the standard. They deserve to be there. But like most times of the ones that made it, it was an even more rare one that they would stick around the building for very long or. Or. Or progress to. To. To be. To be something. And that's not a hit on them. In fact, it's the exact opposite. They. They went from conventional military all the way to the top. That's an amazing feat. And some of them did it, but they didn't. It didn't usually pan out very well in the long term. I'll say.
- [39:48]
A
We got. Brenda's taint says, I know a Dominican when I see one. K. L. Okay, so.
- [40:01]
C
Yeah, that's right.
- [40:02]
B
K. So we. We. I've X was a man of many nicknames. I said it in the. In the recording. X was a. Had a very unique ability to be well liked by almost everyone, if not everyone, which. Which made him easy to. To make fun of, you know, and ingest. Yeah. Because what do they say? So, like, well, hey, you know, they like you if they're making fun of you. Well, you know, Exactly.
- [40:36]
C
If they're not making Funny. That's right. You gotta worry.
- [40:38]
B
I think one of my nicknames for you was the racial chameleon. Do you remember that one?
- [40:42]
C
Yes, I do.
- [40:44]
B
Racial chameleon was whatever they were like, what is X? It's. It's like, we're like. He's whatever he. He wants to be, Right. Effects Black. He's black. Effects wants to be Puerto Rican. He's Puerto Ric. If he wants to be doctor. Is doctor. If he wants to be white, he. He could. He could fit into any white circle.
- [41:01]
C
Egyptian.
- [41:01]
B
That he wants. Yeah. Could it be Egyptian? Yeah, absolutely. You have one of the most vanilla faces. What I mean by that is skin tones that just. It is hard to put you in a box. Did you know that person? Is there a reason, like. Or am I just.
- [41:19]
C
I did not know that.
- [41:20]
B
Or am I just uncultured to be like, I can't. I can't tell a doctor guy when I see one.
- [41:24]
C
No, I think it's common when, you know a lot of Dominicans, you can see them. Okay. Because a lot would look like me. Yeah.
- [41:32]
A
So clock is. I looked it up. Swedish for wise.
- [41:35]
C
No, no, no, no. K. So it was like, what's up?
- [41:38]
B
Just like that. He turns it on. The racial chameleon strikes again. He'll turn it on real quick.
- [41:44]
C
That's right. Yeah.
- [41:45]
B
All right.
- [41:46]
A
Now all of a sudden, we are talking like this.
- [41:49]
C
What was that?
- [41:49]
B
What are we doing?
- [41:50]
A
What he. Well, when he says Ken, he turned it on first, it just inspired me.
- [41:57]
B
So now, by that logic, I have to ask you if, like, okay, so you do have an appearance that most. If people are from the doctor or hang around a lot of doctor people, they look at you immediately like, yeah, he's. He's from the doctor.
- [42:09]
C
They would not be surprised if they didn't know.
- [42:11]
B
Yeah. You're telling me Barack Obama's from the doctor?
- [42:14]
C
He might be, yeah. No, he's.
- [42:16]
B
He's not.
- [42:17]
C
No, he's American.
- [42:18]
B
I tried to connect those dots, but now. Okay, no, no, no, no.
- [42:20]
C
He's American.
- [42:20]
B
All right. We'll have to check his birth certificate.
- [42:23]
C
I think they did that. Okay, that was yesterday. That was yesterday.
- [42:30]
B
Oh, never mind.
- [42:32]
C
We gotta get those dummies back.
- [42:38]
B
Don't put the camera.
- [42:40]
A
What'd you say?
- [42:45]
B
What else?
- [42:45]
A
Thomas Melvin, thank you, man, for the gift. Appreciate it. Kd, it says delta solos the aliens, right?
- [42:52]
B
Delta.
- [42:53]
A
Delta solos the aliens, right? They solos, solo.
- [42:58]
C
I'm not sure I get that.
- [43:00]
B
I hate it. I hate it when they. When they pay money. Then I don't. I don't get it. I feel like I'm robbing them.
- [43:04]
A
Put it in the chat. I'll try to see it in the. In the regular there, brother.
- [43:08]
B
Okay.
- [43:09]
A
Thomas Melvin says. Do you know him? David Thomas Melvin. That sounds like a Lord Melvin kind of situation there. Can y' all briefly. No relation. He says, can y' all briefly touch on ruck for Mike event? Very good for folks that have never been. Great question.
- [43:26]
B
Absolutely. Mike Milmerstadt is an Orange county deputy that was on the SWAT team that. That is no longer with us. And they have a memorial ruck for him every year. And so that's what he's talking about, the ruck for Mike Platinum. Mike Perry comes out to it. I've. I don't. I didn't. I missed it last year. I was there the year. It was the year before that. Me and the Orange County SWAT team have a very good relationship. So I try to go out there and support those guys, but that's. That's what that is. It's a great event for a great family.
- [44:01]
C
You said Mike Perry goes out there?
- [44:02]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [44:03]
C
That's pretty cool.
- [44:04]
B
Yeah.
- [44:09]
A
S. CDF says. Hey, boys, Any good memories from working with Australian military previously? If so, favorite thing or best knowledge transfer from working with them.
- [44:24]
B
Best knowledge transfer from working with them is they're funny and they can drink a lot. Their SAS guys are professional. Professional drinkers. Yes. But they're professional in a bunch of different ways. They're a little bit unique. And again, I'm just. I'm just bringing transparency to it. The. The Australian SAS aren't necessarily like the British sas. And this aspect. The Australian SAS is really a lot more like our Green Berets.
- [44:58]
C
Okay.
- [44:58]
B
They're, they're, they're, they're. They are their jack of all trades, unconventional warfare type soldiers. And their commandos are really like our rangers.
- [45:12]
C
Okay.
- [45:13]
B
And I really wouldn't. I don't know if I would consider one particular one of them like, like us. The way the SAS of the UK is truly, like, structured like. Like us. No, just in terms of capability. Like what, what? As a true tier one unit. And I don't know that's gonna offend some people. That. But that's, but that is just the, the truth of it. That's not a hit on them. It's just explaining what, what it is because they share the terminology. Sas, like the uk. But it's. Again, they're more like our Green Berets than they are Delta Force or, or, or the Tutu.
- [45:52]
C
I don't know. I don't know much about how they're structured, so I can't speak intelligently about that. But I have, like, trained with them and, and shot with them and everything else. And, and they are, from what I saw, they're just as good.
- [46:08]
B
Yeah, they're in that aspect. Yeah, they're. They're good dudes. They're good dudes. And I worked with some of them and when I was on ODA in Afghanistan as well.
- [46:18]
C
Yeah.
- [46:19]
B
Good dudes.
- [46:20]
A
Sack full of names.
- [46:21]
B
As if that could ever be like a, like a, a put down to anyone. Be like, they're like our Green Berets.
- [46:28]
C
No, it isn't.
- [46:29]
B
Our green berries are pretty damn good. So. Yeah. So no one should ever take that offense.
- [46:35]
C
You were Green Beret?
- [46:37]
B
You damn right I was.
- [46:38]
A
Some of them became Delta Force.
- [46:40]
C
Some of them did, yeah. You know how that happens?
- [46:42]
B
You know, I have to say this, and you'll know why. I wasn't just a Green Beret. I was a combat diver. I'll have you know.
- [46:48]
C
Oh, I can't swim.
- [46:52]
B
You were as well.
- [46:53]
C
Yes, I was.
- [46:54]
B
And that, that. It's one of those jokes about a pilot. Whatever. It is like. Yeah, that's kind of like the SF joke is like, you want to know a guy's been to die school, he'll tell you. Yeah.
- [47:04]
C
Yes.
- [47:04]
B
And there's, There's a lot of truth to that. I do have a question for you. Okay. And it is along those lines of sorts, but it's, It's a valid question. You grew up in the Brooklyn area. Bronx. Bronx. All right. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, my bad, my bad. In the Bronx inner city, you go to the Marine Corps. A lot of amphibious stuff there. You go to Force Recon. A lot more amphibious stuff there. You end up on a dive team.
- [47:30]
C
Team.
- [47:31]
B
It's just, how did you learn how to. Did you know how to swim as a kid? Because, I mean, I grew up in Florida. There's lakes and rivers and all my friends have pools because we're here in Florida, so the opportunity isn't there. Did you know how to swim? And if not, how did you. How'd you learn to Swim?
- [47:47]
C
No, There are the opportunities there. So I spent a lot of time as a kid in Dominican Republic, in Santo Domingo, and then.
- [47:54]
B
Yeah, right.
- [47:55]
C
You know, go to rivers on the beach and everything like that. But in New York, there are plenty of pools still to go.
- [48:02]
B
Okay. And that's. And you know what's funny you say that I did a J set with the. With a Jamaican soft unit, and so I was on a dive team. So we take them out there, we're gonna do some water stuff. Most of the guys on the Jamaican soft unit didn't know how to swim, and they're like, hey, just because we're on an island, like, doesn't mean we know how to swim. Blew my mind.
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C
I guess there's got to be that intrinsic drive to want to swim.
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B
You know what I mean?
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A
Well, because. Probably because there's sharks out there, Right. Lord David. It's probably why they don't do a lot of swimming out there.
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B
Would you have considered yourself a strong swimmer? No. No, no. Did. There's a Marine boot camp. Is there a swim test? Yes. Amphibious. Did you doggy paddle it?
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C
Yes. Did you tell him that was my preferred technique. I just got to get there. I just got to get there. That's all I care about.
- [49:08]
A
Sack full of nades. Back end says, just saw the Cowboy Rob episode. As I understand it, all tier one dudes are accountable for every round they fire. I don't care who shot Bin Laden. More interesting to me is who shot his wife in the leg. Was she a threat? And if so, why in the leg?
- [49:26]
B
That's a good question. I would love for Rob to. To answer that question. I just don't trust I. Oh, Rob will answer it, I guess, if you press him. I just don't believe whatever answer he'll give.
- [49:39]
C
That was. That was part of the confusion as well. That last interview that he did, I think he confused me more than.
- [49:46]
B
Yeah, I think that's for the crazier thing. I think he. He had this idea like. Like he's been thinking on this. He's like, all right, this is how I'm going to connect all the dots. After all these years, I've kind of been exposed, but I haven't really. Like, I can. I can. I can salvage this if I just outsmart it. And then his answer ended up being more confusing and worse than. Than. Than beforehand.
- [50:09]
C
I agree. I don't think. I'm not an attorney, but I don't think he came out of that interview with Andy Stump better than.
- [50:18]
B
Yeah, I would Argue with.
- [50:21]
A
I heard attorneys say the same thing.
- [50:22]
B
Yeah. Did you? Yeah.
- [50:25]
A
Whiskey T. Fox says, why a Calvinist MacArthur Bible? Not hating, just wondering. And what translation,
- [50:36]
B
Drew? Why would he be hating on account or questioning the. The Calvinists? Give you an opportunity.
- [50:40]
A
All right, well, there's a lot of talk of predestined, predestination election in the Bible. Check out Ephesians, chapter one, Romans, chapter nine, John, chapter six. A lot about God being in charge of his creation. Some people don't like that.
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C
He just knows this.
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B
So he's the Delta Force of the Bible.
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A
Not. Not hating, just wondering. Also, the MacArthur Bible, if you're not a Calvinist, that's fine, but if you're the.
- [51:07]
B
The.
- [51:07]
A
The MacArthur Bible has the best cross reference in any Bible and just great Bible study notes. And what do you got there? Is it. Is it a new American standard?
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B
It is the new American.
- [51:17]
A
New American standard. Now, the English will say, don't trust anything new and definitely don't trust anything American. But the new American standard. Sorry, Dave, we got to pick on the English when you're here, man. New American standard. It's. It's a very good translation.
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C
There you go.
- [51:36]
B
All right. That's as short as an answer Drew's capable of giving.
- [51:40]
A
That was brief.
- [51:41]
B
I know, I know. I'm giving you credit for that.
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A
Thank you.
- [51:44]
B
Yeah, that was. That was not easy for Drew.
- [51:47]
C
Yeah, no, he had more.
- [51:49]
B
Oh, he's got more.
- [51:50]
A
Okay, guys, let my wife know that Jacob Schneider says, Brent, you mentioned not many minorities at the unit. Did you guys ever consider basketball hoops or overweight women to increase recruiting numbers?
- [52:06]
B
So neither one of those would help our recruiting numbers because we uphold the standard. You. You break some. You. You broke down a lot of stereotypes, if you will, without knowing it. And that's. It's just not a secret. There's just not a lot of minorities at. At the unit. But it's. It's not a. It's not a cultural thing. It's.
- [52:29]
C
No, I think.
- [52:30]
B
Yeah. Where we pull from online on. Online.
- [52:33]
C
Not just. It's not just where. Where you pull from. It's the pool of candidates who volunteers for it.
- [52:40]
B
Right.
- [52:40]
C
If the majority of people that volunteer for something are whatever they are, that's
- [52:48]
B
going to be the majority. I mean,
- [52:53]
C
whether they're Rangers, whether they're. They're. They come from, you know, some from the Marine Corps, some from the Navy. Doesn't matter.
- [53:01]
B
Right.
- [53:03]
C
If everybody can try. And the more people that try from whatever unit, that means that most of them there'll be more people from there in the organization. And that goes across not just units, but ethnicities as well.
- [53:20]
B
The. You didn't run for this position, but. But you just got it as the mouthpiece of minorities in the military.
- [53:29]
C
Jesus.
- [53:30]
B
The. It's.
- [53:32]
C
I came on fast, man.
- [53:33]
B
It did. It did. It is an honest question though. And then it's an honorable position as well. And you may not. I don't know if you know, but, you know, it's worth a try. And let's just take special operations because generally in the. And the whole of the military, there's plenty of representation, a very similar representation of the makeup of America that are the makeup of. Of the military. I don't think it's. I don't think it's. That I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I don't think it's that off. And, and the conventional forces as a whole. Okay, but the higher you climb the ladder and what. And I'm make up this ladder regarding special Operations, infantry to combat arms, you know, as. As the lowest rung of the ladder.
- [54:18]
A
Okay.
- [54:18]
B
And then. And then Special operations and then tier one, minorities drop at. At each level. Now, first I have to ask you, do you believe that to be true, that there are less. And the support from support to infantry, there's less minorities.
- [54:37]
C
So less in infantry than in support that there's.
- [54:39]
B
There's. Yes, there's less minorities. And then. Then in Special Operations, there's less minorities in special operations than there were in infantry.
- [54:48]
C
I don't have anything to back that up. I don't, I don't have anything to. Just from my observations. Okay, I've seen that yes, in Special Operations there usually are less.
- [54:58]
B
Right.
- [54:58]
C
But less. Less. A lot of individuals just don't want to do that as well, I'm guessing.
- [55:03]
B
So the, the question is. And it's like I said, you may not have the answer. I don't know. But what. Why do you think that is?
- [55:09]
C
I think some of them just don't want to do anything like that. They don't want to do special operations. You're not. People go there that want to try for it, and lots of people want to try for it. And I think the, the largest pool of individuals that try for it are the ones that usually make up the majority of the individuals that are in it. Because if, if you don't try for it, then you're not gonna get in there.
- [55:36]
B
I have a guess at it. I just think it's more of a. It's not a, it's not an ability or a capability thing. You know, when it comes to high level athletes that are both like physically demanding. Check that box. And both have to, or at skilled positions that clearly have, you know, have to have the mentality to be able to solve complex things quickly. Check that box. So it's not a capability thing. It is, it's a desire thing. Yeah. So I think, I think it's a cultural.
- [56:09]
C
To that specific job.
- [56:10]
B
Yeah, to that specific. I think it's a, for whatever reason, I think it's a, a cultural thing. I don't think, I think culturally, I don't think it's. No one has an issue going to the military and any culture, you know, and that's why the, not. Well, like broad strokes here, very broad strokes. And that's why the majority of the military when, when it comes to conventional forces as a whole, mirrors pretty close the American population.
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A
Okay.
- [56:38]
B
But when it comes to special operations, I think culturally it's just not something
- [56:45]
C
that,
- [56:47]
B
that they're either pushed to do that is as glorified as, as it is in other communities. We can go back to something very basic. And you know, I grew up good guys versus bad guys. Like, it's just, it's just how I grew up. And so when you go to special operations, it's just a higher level of good guys versus bad guys. And if your culture doesn't grow up playing cops and robbers just to pull something out, then, then you don't have that cultural driving force to want to fight bad guys as much as someone else. Does that make sense? Kind of what I'm saying it, I
- [57:28]
C
see where you, where you're, where you're going.
- [57:30]
B
I'm not pushing it. I'm, I'm saying this is. No, no, I got, yeah, I'm throwing a stab. I'm, Go ahead. I got you shot in the dark here.
- [57:36]
C
But I think I disagree a little bit because. So let's take law enforcement for example. That I think is more, there's a lot more diversity in law enforcement than you would say in, in special operations.
- [57:53]
B
Yeah.
- [57:53]
C
You know, I mean that, and that goes against the, the cops and robbers, you know, the bad guys and everything like that. I just think a lot of individuals do not want to go to special operations or do that type of job. That's what I think. But again, these are, that's based on the few observations that I've had. I haven't, I don't have any, no
- [58:12]
B
evidence or data and I, I, I just, but One thing I do disagree with as, as, as a whole is like the, the push to, to just for no reason other, for diversity reasons, and say, well, we need more minorities in special operations. I, I, this is a whole different subject, though.
- [58:34]
C
But I wouldn't, I don't, I believe in an all volunteer force.
- [58:38]
B
Yeah, right.
- [58:39]
C
So I don't want to put, I don't want to work with anyone that does not want to be there.
- [58:43]
B
Yeah, exactly.
- [58:44]
C
That is a fact. I don't care where you come from.
- [58:46]
B
Right.
- [58:46]
C
So it doesn't matter. If a person wants to be there, then they try. And if they meet or exceed the standard, then so bad.
- [58:53]
B
I don't think people understand, like, how much that matters to us in the military. If you'd have put me on an ODA that was majority minority, but they were the performers and the best guys there, and those are the guys you wanted to go to war with. I would have, I would have, I would have never cared or even looked at it, you know? Yeah, yeah. I think it's just one of those things. I think people push for something or assume something that, that, that's not there. And the guys I worked with, they, they never cared about the. And again, I'm just having a transparent conversation. You came to my team and we were never like, who's not.
- [59:38]
C
I got you. I gotcha.
- [59:40]
B
Who's, who's this guy? We couldn't, well, I've already said we couldn't have guessed your ethnicity because no one can. But we were never like, who's, who's this guy? One. You, you met the standard of otc. Yeah. And you came over and, you know, and, and each individual is judged on, on your individual actions.
- [59:58]
C
Exactly.
- [59:58]
B
And that's how.
- [59:59]
C
As it should be. Yeah, as it should be.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So all I heard was, blah, blah, blah, blah. X is exceptional again.
- [60:07]
B
All right.
- [60:08]
C
Oh, that's like five of them.
- [60:10]
A
Yeah, there's a lot of them.
- [60:11]
C
We should, we should, we should drink to that.
- [60:17]
A
Says, Ms. Cleo told me that Drew is going to the operator podcast and CAG Daddy is going to hold grenades for tk. How was the Florida Man Games?
- [60:28]
B
Oh, the Florida Man Games.
- [60:32]
C
What is this? Oh,
- [60:35]
B
am I in for a treat? Okay, I'm excited. The Florida Man Games is, is what you think it is.
- [60:41]
C
It's so you gotta have a mullet.
- [60:44]
B
Oh, there's, there's a barber shop there that only gives mullets. So it's this competition, and it's basically each co. Each phase of the competition or each, each Game of it is ripped from the headlines. And I'm sure you've heard of the infamous Florida man, right? Like, yes. Florida man is always doing something dumb. Yeah. So instead of just a normal obstacle course, it's an obstacle course and cops are chasing you. And then instead of, you know, one of the things is like, you know, go into the grocery store, but you have to fight other people. Hurricane prep. And you gotta fight other people for like, Kate. Cases of water and everything else.
- [61:23]
C
Okay.
- [61:23]
B
And I have never. I don't even know where this one came from. They put five men blindfolded in an octagon. Yeah. And gave them cow prods. Said, have at it, boys. Yeah. And they were stabbing the ever living heck out of each other.
- [61:39]
C
To what end?
- [61:40]
B
Until somebody said, I can't do it anymore. And then you pop out. And now it's four. And now it's three. Last man standing blindfolded in there. So like, you can't even strategize with somebody and say, hey, like, it's gonna be us.
- [61:51]
C
And like, let's take them all out.
- [61:53]
B
I mean, these guys were swinging the cattle fronts. It was crazy.
- [61:56]
C
It was absolutely crazy. It was.
- [61:58]
B
It was crazy.
- [61:59]
C
Yeah, I'll watch that one. I won't participate.
- [62:01]
B
Oh, man, you gotta. The reels are money. And instead of a mechanical bull, they had a mechanical gator.
- [62:06]
C
Gator. Yeah.
- [62:07]
B
It's gotta go ride the gator.
- [62:08]
C
I thought you gonna say a real bull. And there's. And they're still blindfolded.
- [62:14]
B
They had a competition that was. They pretended like they were drinking deer piss. Like you had to. You had to be underneath this fake bottle. But it was a deer piss pong. It was beer pong. It was beer. Deer pong. It was. They were beers. I. I did ask someone. It was. It was beers. They were putting. Or was it.
- [62:32]
C
It was not beer.
- [62:33]
B
There was no carbonation in that. I was hoping it was.
- [62:35]
A
No, that was actual deer piss.
- [62:38]
B
Yeah.
- [62:38]
C
They opened it and left it out.
- [62:40]
B
Yeah. And so they. It goes down. The deer piss goes through like a funnel at the top of the deer that's kind of routed. And then it comes shooting out of the. The. The deer's thing and you have this. The people, they are underneath it trying to catch enough deer piss to go up to a certain level of the cup. And then that's how you win. And the only way that you can hold the cup is out of your mouth. So it was all over their face. Yeah. Who came up with this Florida man headlines some other. Each event is supposedly connected with Florida.
- [63:14]
C
Man.
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B
Headlines.
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C
Thank you, Florida.
- [63:16]
B
Thank you. Thanks, Florida. It's all champagne and gravy now. Now we gotta change shirts.
- [63:23]
C
Oh, leave it.
- [63:26]
B
What else we got?
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A
Let's see. BO is in there with a. With a. With a generous gift as usual. Thank you. He says, brent, that shirt makes you look weak. Oh, wait, that's your arms.
- [63:39]
C
Oh.
- [63:41]
B
Oh.
- [63:41]
C
I'll tell you a little something. Not even bad about that.
- [63:44]
A
Oh, man. I read that earlier and started laughing.
- [63:46]
B
That's the guy. Great State of Florida. That's him. That's. That's guest number one from the podcast.
- [63:52]
C
What he doesn't know is that we knew you as the small arms NCO of a squadron.
- [63:58]
B
Yes, that's. That is. That is correct. I. Thanks a lot. I don't think that's going to help my case.
- [64:07]
C
I'm on both sides.
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A
Brian Smith says thank you guys for your service. Thank you.
- [64:14]
C
You're welcome. Absolutely.
- [64:15]
B
Thank you.
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A
Human performance. Were you guys Green Gorets together or just the Sumos?
- [64:27]
B
All right, there's a story behind that.
- [64:29]
C
Sumos.
- [64:31]
B
It was. It was my very first episode and I had all sorts of problems. Like I had problems with you. It's my very first time going through the whole process. I'm behind on editing, I'm behind on uploading. I'm behind on thumbnails. I'm just behind. Everything's taken longer than I wanted it to.
- [64:49]
A
Nothing's changed. Changed.
- [64:51]
B
Yeah. And so I'm supposed to get this episode out at 6am on Monday.
- [64:57]
C
Okay.
- [64:57]
B
I don't remember if I got it out the following day or I did get it out on that Monday. I think I got it out on that Monday till 4am trying to get it out. That's right.
- [65:07]
C
6.
- [65:07]
B
And you're like one eye open. Yeah. And so I'm one eye open. And. And then it takes for. Sometimes things have to upload first and then go to the next step, whatever it is. And so I'm falling asleep at that. At that desk right there. Falling asleep, waking up, taking it the next step. One eye in it. It's 4am My very first video was supposed to be legendary Green Beret Darren Beheeler. And I put out for the whole world to see on my very first video, Legendary Green Gray. And I wake up like six hours later excited. Just like to wake up and see the comments and like, it's. It's. Proud of yourself, see how it's going. Calm. You misspelled green Gray. You said. You said gray. Oh, was Brent also a Garay. Text message after text message. You misspelled it dummy. And just went from like elation to go look at my work to I'm an idiot. I gotta fix this. And it's been almost, almost six months later still hearing about I still have to. And you said that too. You called it. And he said, I'm never going to live this out. I said, the Internet will forget.
- [66:15]
C
You'll be fine.
- [66:16]
B
Oh, boom. Green.
- [66:18]
C
Because it's known for that the Internet will let you. You can just delete things.
- [66:22]
B
Funny.
- [66:23]
C
And it's gone.
- [66:24]
B
There are things they do like it. They, they pick and choose what they want to remember. And Ray is there. Yeah. They'll never forget me pulling my taint or what?
- [66:36]
A
No.
- [66:37]
C
Oh, no.
- [66:39]
B
That has been discussed at length. We'll talk about that after.
- [66:41]
C
I'm gon watch the episode. Is that what it is?
- [66:44]
B
Yeah, I'll. I'll tell you after. After the show. In the garage smoking cigars.
- [66:47]
C
Wait. Okay.
- [66:48]
B
All right, what else we got?
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A
Well, the very next one is Green Beret. Brent was a green gray.
- [66:55]
C
There it is.
- [66:55]
A
Doubling down, guys.
- [66:57]
B
Thanks for keeping me humble.
- [66:58]
A
All right, Hoskier says Brent and X, if you back in Delta and had to pick between an 18 Delta or PJ, who would you carry with you on the mission? That's 1 2. Tactically, if you need another gun in the fight, which one would you pick? Great show. God bless.
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B
That's a good question.
- [67:19]
C
I'm biased towards the Delta.
- [67:22]
B
That's right. It's a biased thing. I'm, I'm biased towards 18, so. So that's who I'm bringing.
- [67:27]
C
Yeah.
- [67:28]
B
It's no shade towards the other. No, I'm just biased.
- [67:31]
C
And I'm.
- [67:31]
B
And I'm. And like I said, and we're just being, we're just being open and honest about it.
- [67:34]
C
I am. No, I mean, Nothing against the PJs incredibly trained. But yeah, I'm used to the deltas.
- [67:39]
B
Yeah. Those PJs from the 2 4. The 24 is just another organization that probably doesn't get enough credit. Those CCT were. Never had a bad one. Never had a bad one. And they did amazing things on target with. Within their, within their lanes and sometimes outside of their lanes when. When, when, when, when asked or, or necessary.
- [68:03]
C
Well, they can, they can do their job exceptionally well and pick up the slack on anything else.
- [68:08]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [68:09]
C
So they're always value added.
- [68:10]
A
Now the, the second part is what, what secondary weapon are you bringing? What gun are you bringing? You guys are going to Say, well, what's the mission? I'm going to help them out. You don't know what the mission is?
- [68:22]
B
That's right.
- [68:22]
A
What's your secondary?
- [68:24]
C
My secondary?
- [68:25]
B
No, no, not Tom. But tactically, if you need another gun in the fight, which one do you pick? Between the 18 delta and the PJ.
- [68:31]
A
Oh, is that what they're talking about?
- [68:32]
B
Yeah. Which one would you pick? And the next one is as a gun in the fire, which.
- [68:39]
A
My bad. All right, then I'm an idiot. Okay, thank you for clarifying.
- [68:43]
B
Clarifying that oddly enough. And we're just. I don't have enough information to really give an answer, but oddly enough, I might pick the. If it's a 2.4pj, I might pick the pj for. For a gun in the fight.
- [68:57]
A
Okay.
- [68:58]
B
Just because they're. They're from a tier one unit. A little more training, a little more resources.
- [69:02]
C
Well, yeah, the ones that we've seen there. Yeah, yeah, that's.
- [69:06]
B
There you go.
- [69:07]
C
Valid point.
- [69:07]
A
Iceman. Says, Xavier, when you guys were landing on the X, which cargo pocket did you keep your piss bottle? Just wondering, since Red Squadron had an ttp, apparently back in the gap with Robert o'. Digley.
- [69:23]
B
O'.
- [69:23]
C
Digley. So I typically kept my piss bottle in my left cargo pocket. My afro wig was in my right cargo pocket.
- [69:33]
B
That's right. And if you want your own tier one piss bottle, we're selling stickers at FRCC shop. And you can turn any water bottle into your personal tier one piss bottle. That's how you do it right there.
- [69:49]
C
I need something with a bigger opening.
- [69:55]
A
Brenda's taint back in says, yo, X. Anthony Santos or Luis Vargas? Don't fail me, bro.
- [70:02]
C
Anthony Santos.
- [70:03]
A
Anthony Santos.
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C
Anthony Santos.
- [70:05]
A
See how he turns it on like that?
- [70:06]
B
He does. Anthony, switch.
- [70:08]
A
Anthony Santos. All right, K dicks says Brent X, if you had a mission but you can't pick America or uk, which country would you pick to work with?
- [70:20]
B
That's a good question. That's a good question. I. I have an answer in mind. But as a guest, I'm gonna let you go first. There's a bunch of good answers to this. But. But I don't. Let's. Let's keep it at a high value target, like dicey high value target mission. Because the missions matter of sorts. You know it's going to be a good one. High value target mission. If you can't pick. If you have to go on it and you can't pick the US or the uk, who you putting on that bird? Who? What Countries, Special operations.
- [70:53]
C
Hey, I'm gonna be. I might upset a couple people, but.
- [70:56]
B
Canada, you know what? Canada.
- [70:59]
C
Canada.
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B
And don't worry, it's not because of their hockey team or some people in their country. Let me tell you. They're. They're tier one. They're. They're real ones. They, they are, they are well trained. They. And they uphold the standard, believe it or not. Canada.
- [71:14]
A
Yeah, well, I know you didn't ask me, but I would take Aussies because I would love to hear just their accent in the radio. So that's why. Because we really don't need another country on the mission, so.
- [71:28]
B
Oh, geez.
- [71:29]
A
All right. Usa.
- [71:31]
C
All the shade. Drew wants to smoke.
- [71:35]
A
All right. Chase. Chase. Lee says wishing an early but happy Heavenly birthday to Sergeant Aaron Kramer. Born February 28, 1988. Killed in action September 16, 2010, Afghanistan. Also my sister in law, Renee Dam Cheney. February 27, 1980 to August 27, 2020. We lost due to a vehicle wreck. Love you guys.
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B
I love that that's. They paid money to. To read a comment. They could say something funny, they could say something stupid. They could weigh in on something current, political. Almost every week someone chooses their platform to. To remember someone. And I absolutely love it. And I was ready for it. Thank you guys. Sir, to the fallen.
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C
To the fallen.
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Right wing nut. Thank you for the love, man. We really appreciate it. Xavier, did you play a lot of baseball? Oh, all Dominican dudes I played with or against in college were studs. Thanks for coming on, bro. Brad and Louisiana.
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I'm tired of people trying to pigeonhole you just because of where you're from. And I won't stand for it unless you played a lot of baseball.
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So I'm probably the only Dominican man that, that does not. That is not good at baseball. And I. I let my country down. But I'm American.
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B
Yeah.
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C
But I let my ancestry down.
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B
I love that answer because of sort that. That is a classic X answer. You the bad. Whatever you think he is, whatever you think, wherever you think he's from, whatever you think he did.
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I threw him a curveball.
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I love it.
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I wasn't. I wasn't very good. I tried to play okay. But I was not.
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Was there any.
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Struck out?
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I did. Were there any sports you gravitated to?
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Young, not organized. That was I. I was on the.
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Lord David. Thank you, Lord David.
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Lord David has delivered it. I was on the wrestling team.
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B
Yeah.
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In high school. But it was more like I was the practice dummy.
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B
Yeah. You know, but that's. You Were you were still. Really? How tall are you?
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C
Six.
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Six feet. Six feet even. All right. And you were six foot then. Right? So you. You grew up quick. You didn't grow out quick. Were you like 140 pounds in high school?
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145.
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So the problem is, especially with the wrestling, to be that. To be lightweight good, to be tall, lanky and lightweight bad.
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They had limbs for days to just grab.
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Right.
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And I didn't know.
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I think I was in the camo clutch at one point. Do you remember that? The iron chic. That's old stuff, man.
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Yeah, they get you. The huckle buck.
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C
Yeah.
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All right, what else we got?
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Hard stuck says. Could either of you make three shots in 5.2 seconds with a 6.5 Carcano rifle from 80 meters on a moving target?
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C
How fast is the target moving?
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How fast? I don't care.
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Answer is yes, in five seconds. Three shots.
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B
Three shots. Five seconds. Yeah, put it. Put it between a standard five to ten miles an hour is what I want to put it. Yeah, I can. I can do it.
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If it's going steady, you'd be surprised. Yeah, exactly. If the. It's a. If the speed is going steady, you would be surprised after how much practice that you can get those rounds in there. Within. I think so.
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I believe there's only one real method, but the truth is there's two. There's two methods to. To engaging a moving target. Are you tracking me? Like, how. How?
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C
Oh, what? Tracking or ambushing.
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B
Tracking or ambushing. Which one do you prefer?
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Tracking.
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Ambushing for some people. And I get it. Some people just can't track. And ambushing is a. Is a technique. And so for anyone watching when shooting a moving target, tracking means I'm gonna. I'm gonna move my weapon along with the target just in front of it and then. And then shoot and track it the whole time. Ambushing says, I'm gonna put my. My gun way in front of it, and when it gets close enough, I'm going to ambush the trigger. And. And. And in hopes that I got the timing right. And I say in hopes. Like it. Like it doesn't work. It. It's a technique.
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It does work, but I don't like it because you have a sudden input.
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Right.
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C
And every little bit counts.
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B
That's right.
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You run the risk of, you know, just pulling the shot as opposed to. If you keep the reticle on the target the entire time and you execute like a proper right weapon, like pulling the trigger. Slow, steady squeeze. And then the round when it goes off, it surprises you.
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B
Yeah.
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If it's on target or where you want it to be, whatever your lead is.
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Right.
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C
I think that's more effective than, than ambushing.
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B
Here's a great rule of thumb that, that someone told me. And of course distance matters. It can't be too close. If it's too close, you don't have to lead at all. Just, just, just keep it on target and go. Yeah. If it's too far, this won't work. But at a normal engagement, And I'll say 100 to 200 meters in that, in that style engagement, the rule of thumb of wherever their hands are, that's your lead point. And. And what? And it kind of works regardless of speed. So what I mean by that is if they're walking, their hands at their furthest point, that their hands go. That's. That's your, that's your lead. And if so, if they're walking, their hands don't go that far in front of them. Let that be your lead point. If they're jogging, their hands will be a little bit further in front because they're jogging. Let that be their lead point. And if they're an all out sprint, their hands go even further. And if you make that lead point, that. Let that be your tracking point.
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C
That's interesting. And I've never.
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B
And generally speaking, that works. And I can't remember who told me that, but I was like, that's brilliant.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Unfortunately though, we, we, we practice on targets that are silhouette targets with no hands. So it's. But
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C
slow, steady track or 45 degrees away from you.
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B
You didn't tell me. Magnet. You didn't tell me that.
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C
Yes, you did.
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B
You didn't tell me that. Magnus. A classic case of he knows how to make it go boom, but he doesn't know what to do with the boom. No, he's really good at making a gun. He's not bad at shooting it. But what if they run like cigar. You have to speak with the mic.
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C
Sorry.
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B
What if they run like Seagal? Yeah. Yeah. Well, well then, then you're going to have to figure it out. But at some point, you're gonna have to take that guy down because he, he does not deserve to live if that's how he runs.
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Well, the thing is, if, if it's. It is. If it is Seagal, you won't be able to shoot him because he's hard to kill.
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Yeah.
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That's why you get.
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C
I couldn't have it.
- [78:41]
B
I could have it. You get the adventure. Invite on multiple levels. That's one of them. That's one of them.
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A
Dad jokes after my own heart.
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C
Yes.
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What else we got?
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We've got Hard Stuck says. Nope. I mean, Point man podcast. As we've been on generator power up here in Massachusetts since Monday after 32 inches of snow.
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B
32 inches.
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C
That's a lot of snow, man.
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A
Brent, why does Delta and Seal Team 6 refer to their assaulters as squadrons? And ending songs. Anything Deftones. Anything Deftones.
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C
Take it X. I think Squadrons is because of the two 2sas.
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B
Absolutely. We stole it from the Brits. We stole our whole TNE or TNA task. Task. Org from. From the Brits. And so. And to go a little bit deeper in that, because I love history. You got me. So you're gonna get a little bit longer answer.
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Do it.
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B
So the two two sas. Are you listening? Lord David, This. This is. This is for you. And the person who paid the money. The. They called themselves squadrons, which is pretty unique because no ground unit called squadrons
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C
in the U.S. yeah. We associate that with aircraft.
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B
Yeah. And that's. And almost every country does.
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C
Okay.
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B
So that was part of the 22 SAS's cover was the SAS stands for Special Air Service. And so they put themselves in squadrons. They called themselves a Special Air Service.
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C
I see.
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B
To try to mislead what their organization was really about.
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C
Interesting. I didn't know that.
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B
So there you go.
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C
Did not know that.
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A
And now, you know, Wide Latable says, what was the whole purpose of Delta's initial mission set? Hijacked aircrafts if they can't deploy here in the country.
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B
So the whole purpose of their initial mission set. And this. This goes back to the. To the book Delta Force by our founder, Charlie Beckwith. If you ever read it, it's not the most fun read the very beginning of. It's really fun because it talks about his time with the SAS as an exchange program with. When he was a Green Beret. At the time, we didn't, you know, our Green Berets were the equivalent or supposed equivalent of. Of their SAS. And so we'd have an exchange program between the two. And when he came back in the 70s, Charlie Beckwith was like, hey, the SAS is really focused heavily, almost solely on counter terrorism. And it's such a. Now that I've spent enough time with those guys, it's such a unique mission set. It has.
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C
We didn't have anything.
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B
We did like that here. And when. And when he came pounding the table about that, they're like, well, counterterrorism. It's one of the pillars of Special Forces. And they're like, we got. Well, we got that covered. We got the Green Berets. He's like, no, that's one of the things they do. I'm telling you. It's such a hard problem set. And it takes such precision to take down terrorists. Once you're reacting to them, you have to have a counter terrorist organization dedicated to that. Dedicated, yeah, absolutely. So that was. He eventually won that. And so that was their initial mission set, which goes into the hijacked aircraft, because that was one of the terrorists original ways to cause terror and to get attention to their causes was to hijack planes. Fun fact. I don't know if you know this, but before FBI HRT was stood up, Delta Force was authorized. If there was a hijacking here in America, it was, it was, it was. It was not. Just assumed it was. It was going to happen. Delta Force was going to take care of hijacked airplanes, rightfully so. That goes against our constitution. And even though that was going to be a cutout, there's a reason why. Why there's a cutout for it. They said instead of using them, we need to stand up and organize it. We, you guys can use this. You guys can be that stopgap in the meantime, but we really need to stand up a conus. Law enforcement counterpart to this so we don't depend on you. And that's how the FBI HRT was stood up and that was passed over to them. So there you go. Another. Another. Another long answer, but I love it.
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It's.
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It's.
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C
It's.
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It's the history of. Of this country. It's the history of our tier one organizations.
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A
And he talks about my answers. Okay, so Iceman, Tier one podcast. Iceman scb. It's for tier one men. Brent. All right. Iceman SCB says Xavier favorita en espanol. What's your favorite?
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B
What's your favorite. What's your favorite Bad Bunny song?
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C
It's my favorite song in Arabic.
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B
Oh, never mind.
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C
I don't have a. A one specific song that's my favorite because I listen to all kinds of stuff, but I like Antoni Santos from back in the day and I like Merengue Rosario. So I like Jose Quince and, well, several more of us.
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You getting these?
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Iceman Salmundo.
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C
El Mundo.
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B
Isn't that in that. Is that a band?
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C
El mundo. Menudo. You mean I was a menu.
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B
Dang it.
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C
And Menudo?
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B
Yeah.
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C
Okay, that was back in the day.
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I tried.
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C
Yes, you did. That was good.
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B
I wanted to be a part of this conversation. But you failed.
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C
I understood what you said. I understood where you wanted to go. That's the point.
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B
That's the point.
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C
That's the point. I understood where you wanted to go with that.
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A
I like the Frito bandido myself.
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C
Yeah, all right.
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I am the Frito Bandito. That's Frito lays Frito commercial back in like the early 80s.
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C
I thought that was.
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B
Please read the next question.
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C
I thought that was like a value meal or something.
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A
All right, you're not gonna like the question.
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B
All right.
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A
Whiskey T. Fox says Drew, I personally feel Calvinism goes against the New Testament and its promises. Certain people in the Old Testament were God's chosen people. Now all Christians are. I agree. God knows who will. All right, well, I don't know which way you're going with that. Whether today all Christians are God's chosen people or, you know, we're the new Israel and Jews don't know which way you're going. But if you believe in replacement theology, which is that the church has replaced Israel as God's chosen nation, then you do agree with Calvinism, because that's what John Calvin taught. So I don't have to be a little bit more specific. You could go to my podcast, Truth in the Dark and you can get verse by verse explanation on the book of Galatians and Romans 11 about, you know, neither Jew nor Greek. And is Israel still God's chosen people? So they're short, less than 20 minutes. Contrary to my brothers opinion on my answer.
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B
No, that Drew, oddly enough, I love your long answers on your podcast. I do, I do. I watch your podcast. I love your long answer.
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C
Yeah, easy, listen.
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B
That's where they need to be.
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A
I love it. I love it. All right, let's see, we got
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B
what
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A
time we want to do the break.
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B
We'll go just. Just a few more. Just a few more.
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C
All right.
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It jumped on me. We're almost there.
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B
That's right. What is, what is the long walk? There it is. That's by Jared Rosen. 13:16. What does a long walk mean?
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C
That's another way for people to Refer to Delta 4. Selection.
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B
Yeah, there's. There's inward. There's almost two terms and, and context matters, right? So when people say the long walk, they're talking about going to Delta Force selection. But then there's the long walk. If you're already talking about selection and you're talking about the long walk, then you're. Then, then you're Talking about the 40 miler with something specific. Yeah. Within selection. But it really has a, A reference to the, to the 40 miles and, and, and, and one time frame that at some point you are going to walk. And unfortunately, it's no secret. It is towards the end and you are not fresh when you start that. In fact, if it. Man, if it was just 40 miles, that would be easy. But put, put dude at the end after everything. Yeah. And then. And then. And then do that. It puts a whole nother degree of difficulty that makes you question life decisions many times. Many times you get a long time to question your life decisions during that.
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All right. K. Diggs is back in. Says, I didn't expect Canada. Honestly. How does Poland stack up in terms special forces if you have experience with them?
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C
I have actually. I know a number of Polish soft guys. Good dudes as well.
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B
Yeah.
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C
And I would work with them.
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B
Yeah. You. You have. You worked a lot with the polls.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Big fan of working with polls.
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C
The. I got a dollar for you. What's that?
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A
Put it in the shorts.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Right.
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C
Let me slip it.
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B
Right.
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Dirty dollar.
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Told you the lives were different.
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C
They are. I'm seeing that. I'm trying to adjust as we go. No, but I have worked with them both. Instructing.
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B
Yeah.
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C
And as participants once I got to Germany and International Special Training Center.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Great dudes, man. I was absolutely. Work with them.
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B
Never worked directly with them. Always heard good things. Yeah. Always for good. And. All right, let's take, let's take a second. Let's, let's. Let's change it up just real quick. I told you. Let's. Let's do the wild card video. Just because it's, Just because it's funny. I want to. I want to see everyone's reaction. And so before you start it. And I'm not. I'm not just pandering to Xavier just because I said the military itself doesn't need a lot of diversity. I think there are some solid questions that need to be asked about diversity, and maybe this is one of them.
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C
Okay.
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The offshore interrogators are white men. And we're wondering how we might be able to get people of color and women involved.
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B
Is that what you're talking about? Like torture. Yeah.
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A
Were you discouraged from being an advanced interrogator because of your gender define?
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B
That's not something that personally would appeal to me. Is it?
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Because it's too much of, like a physical job and you need to hold
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B
them down and pour the water. If there was some sort of other way that women could take part in it without having to.
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A
They could maybe make it hold the camera potentially or something like that? No. So do you think that's sort of a problem, that Guantanamo Bay is like a boys club right now? For example?
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B
Women have a different emotional makeup than men do. If they're being charged with crimes, maybe
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A
they should have someone who looks a little bit like them. There's offshore sites where they're interrogating Muslims. And that would be better if it was a Muslim doing it.
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B
Be part of questioning in a softer way. That might be more like undercurrent manipulation
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A
so you could manipulate them mentally.
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B
I'm not attracted to like, human rights violations.
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A
But is that possible that that's your social programming, that society's been telling women that they should stay away from jobs like that because it's not for them?
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B
No. I come across a woman that personally feels oppressed because they have reason to be an advanced interrogator, that, well, that's
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their internal program and they don't like, realize it. A lot of times women just.
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Or is it your internal programming to
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think that because everything has to be equal.
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A
Do you not think things should be equal?
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I do, but I don't particularly think
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that just you just said not for that one job, like you let the guys do that sort of thing.
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No.
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Deadpools are being tortured by the Chinese.
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But do you think it's better there because China has torture stuff, Right?
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C
No.
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If the opportunity is there, then that makes things equal. But I don't think you should force
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A
be incentivize them like, you know, have subsidies for women torturers or something. Might find some young people with whom the principles of Black Lives Matter resonate.
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And we need more people who can
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A
not only do the job, but who can also systematically be advocates to get that information. Yeah, because in my opinion, women are just as capable as men at administering sleep deprivation. Or there was that whole big thing
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B
with Afghanistan stand where the woman was busy, not familiar.
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A
Some of the female advanced interrogators have like known to get 30 cents less than men.
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B
Different issue. That's the wage gap.
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A
Well, obviously they say, well, the guys have done 30 more torture and that's the reason.
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B
But still think it's a fallacy to say, well, if this isn't 50 50,
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then it's not equal.
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Do you have a message to young girls that have potentially did want to be advanced interrogators?
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Just don't.
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We should all stop torturing each other and ourselves. Compassionate is the name of the game. Would you mind doing a hug? 90%.
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C
Did she hug people?
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A
Color, women involved?
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B
Is that what you're talking about? Like, torture, Drew. That's it.
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C
Oh, my goodness.
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Man, that was funny.
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The.
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The only reason that's funny.
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And.
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And we.
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B
We've. We've talked about this. This before the show. Like, for. For things, like, really to be true, you have to look at it from, like, the other. From the other side. And, like. Like, if this is your argument, and if that's true, then we have to flip it and, like, this be your. Your argument as. As well. It has to be true in that side.
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I think you should be able to at least put yourself in the other.
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B
Yeah.
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C
In the other position.
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B
Yeah.
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C
And challenge from each direction, I think.
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B
Right. And so really, it's. It's just a funny take of challenging from each direction.
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Yeah.
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For people who say, you know, hey, we. We should have women and. And in every, you know, job and available, and. Well, you don't really mean every. Every job. I would argue that you don't want to be interrogators. You don't want to be coal miners. You don't want to be garbage.
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C
I would argue that some women would be horrible interrogators, as in, you do not want them to interrogate you.
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B
Oh, there's. But that's. Actually. There's a good argument to be made. But here's the thing. If we just take our last war, which is always a little bit dangerous to take your last war and think it's your next war. Right. But I don't think there's gonna be peace between us and Islamic extremists anytime soon. I don't think white American women are going to have the same effect on. On Islamic terrorists that. That they're going to have on me and you.
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Yeah, I concede that. Yes.
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All right, after that little comedic break, let's take a break ourselves. Drew, hit the hit our sponsors. We'll take a break, and we'll be right back. We are more than makers of steel.
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My cam. My cam's not working. Hey, guys, we're back. I don't know why my camera's not working. All right, somebody bump camera? I don't know.
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I think it's all right. All right, let's get into the second half. We still got a lot to cover. Let's do the heck. You know what? Let's. Let's go to American hockey.
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All righty. It's gonna be. This one right here is the first one. You ready?
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Yeah.
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Let's do it.
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Yeah. So this one is it. Is my mic back on? Yeah. All right. I'm telling you, the hockey team, I couldn't be any more proud of those guys. Not. Not just what. What they did on the ice, how they conducted themselves, what they did off the ice, how they conducted themselves in victory. It's just truly, truly amazing. Does Drew. Do you know what they did there?
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I was doing other things.
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They brought on a fallen teammate who died. He was in an NHL player, and he died in the off season bicycling. And he would have been part of that gold medal team.
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Oh, wow.
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So they carried his jersey to every game.
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Nice.
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And then when they won the gold, they brought that jersey out for the picture to make sure he was involved in the picture. And then after the team picture, they said, hold on. And they went and got his kids and brought his kids out to the team picture.
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That's awesome. That's. That's. That's champion character right there.
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Yeah, that's.
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That's. That's a family. They play so tightly knit, and that's why they're a championship team.
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They. That hockey team is deserving of the gold medal and they're deserving of the adoration that. That they're getting. I could care less what you, what you do on the court or on the ice. If, if you're, if you're a bad individual, then I, I just, I will never be a fan and I hate that. That to some degree we will, we will put that to the side. Be like, yeah, well, he did all these things, but man, as long as he plays great on Sunday, I don't care what he does. That's just a. That's our priorities are all wrong when we do that. Not the hockey team. The hockey team is absolutely crushing it. And they really did. They gave something to cheer for again. They gave, you know, they're a reason to bring the show who. Who America really, really is in a non divisive manner. They just did it because they're proud of their country and the way they care themselves. I love it. Let me tell you how much this game affected us as a country. And this next video really shows that. And oh, this, this next video gets me. Show this next video. Drew. The, the kids, the kids playing hockey. So let me set this video up for you real quick. The parents are missing the gold medal game because they're their. Their kids game playing hockey. There you go. Play it. About the face off.
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Everybody celebrating.
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I love it. I love it.
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They're like, wait, what game?
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Look at it.
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That's pretty cool.
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It's almost like this. You will never forget everybody to stop what they're doing.
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I love it.
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They're all begging on the eyes. Yeah. They're doing it together. They're playing a game against each other.
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That's pretty cool.
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Right now. They didn't care. No. They know that they live in America and their team just did the unthinkable and beat Canada in overtime, 2, 1. And everyone, every parent in there just proud to be an American. It's just. Oh, it gets me.
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That was pretty cool.
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It, ah, it, it absolutely gets me. Which is why Drew, let's go. Let's. Let's go to the next one. Which is why things like this pissed me off. Hockey just declined an invite to the White House for the State of the Union address. And I think it's a massive mistake and missed opportunity.
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So in case you missed it, Donald
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Trump spoke with Team USA men's hockey after they also beat Canada 2 to
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1 in overtime and invited them to the White House offering a military escort,
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giving the state of the Union speech on Tuesday night.
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I could send a military plane or something.
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And the Internet kind of blew up
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because he said, hey, you know, I gotta invite the women, too.
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And we have to.
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I must tell you, we're gonna have
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to bring the woman's team. You do know that
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a lot of
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people were calling it misogynistic and just
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all up in arms thinking that the women were just an afterthought.
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I think all that was totally blown out of proportion. But a spokesperson for the women's hockey
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team ended up saying they have too many academic and professional commitments that they
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just cannot sacrifice in order to attend
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the State of the Union address at the White house in Washington, D.C. okay,
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so let me break this down. All right? Stop that for a second. And we're just going to put a pause on that, and we're gonna go out of order. Drew and I apologize the next one. So he's talking about the women's hockey team. They declined to go to the White House because they have. They're too busy. Drew, can you go down to the women's hockey team clip? Yep. This is why the women's hockey team couldn't come to the State of the Union. They fumbled the bag. They went to party with Flavor Flav. Instead of getting treated like queens, getting paraded through the streets of Miami, getting to go out to a nightclub and have everybody check cheer for them, they chose this. And, oh, don't take my word for it. It's all over the place. The USA Women's hockey team declined an invite to the State of the Union to go party. Party with rapper Flavor Flav. It is embarrassing. That is embarrassing. Also, do these women say that they don't like Trump? Because it is well documented that Flavor Flav is a serial woman. Yeah. Who had domestic violence charges as recently as 2021. Well, well, so let us get this straight. You have a problem with the current administration, and I'm sure you have fed all the way into the BS but you're okay with what he stands for. Did I get that right? Okay, well, let me know what you guys think of this. This is absolutely ridiculous. Let me know in the comments. Okay, here's. Here's the. Here's the problem that I have. And I'm not going to go on some political rant, because what much rather talk about is that now politics has ruined my Olympics. Has ruined our Olympics. It's now tainted gold medals. We've decided because of political beliefs. Guess what? Whoever you don't like in the White House it's going to change in four years. And then however you treat that person in the White House is how you're going to expect your opposition if it changes to treat your person in the White House. I'm not, I'm not a forever die hard Trumper that'll sit there and say, man, the guy's, the guy's perfect. You got to accept them. You got to accept the good with the bad. I don't accept the good with the bad. The bad is bad and the good is good. That's what I accept. The good is good and the bad is bad, and you don't have to have both. But to. When you don that jersey for America, you have said, I represent this country. And I'm not asking you to, to comp. No, I am actually. I'm asking you to put your political beliefs aside because you have agreed to say, hey, I'm representing my country and I'm going to use the resources of that country to send me to the Olympics. I just don't know why that you would represent your country and then talk bad about it. You missed it. But last week, you know, there were plenty of, of athletes that, that wanted to use that platform to talk about the problems in America. I'm just saying now isn't the time to focus on the bad and use the platform. Now is actually a time to unite every now and again. If not the Olympics win. Like, that's, that, that's where my frustration is. We can't even unite with the Olympics. Like, we've got to stop being divisive. We've got to stop using every opportunity to be divisive. And I was really hoping the Olympics was, was that chance. I feel, it feels like the best chance at coming together as a country and just looking around and being like, we're better than you and we'll prove it because we're awesome. That's what gold medals are about. I'm maybe oversimplifying it. That's what gold medals are about.
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If you get it, then that means that you, you were the best. Yes. But.
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Yeah.
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Did, did anybody look at the reason why they wanted to party with Flavor Flav? Like, why him in particular?
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Nobody know that. I don't know. I don't know why. So let's, so let's, let's go back to the, to the, to the, to the men's hockey team and, and the, the locker room scandal that, that they're making it.
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That was a scandal.
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It is to some people. Some people are really upset about it. Some people. I just showed you that they'll take a fallen teammate's jersey out there to. To the. To the ice for team pictures. I just showed you. They'll take his kids out there. They're. They're just pro American good guys. Right? They're not making a political statement. They're just out there being good guys. If the FBI director wants to come to the. To the afterparty, you know, they're in the locker room. Who were you to tell? The FBI director? No, I wasn't. When we were in. Guess what? I wasn't a big fan of Comey. I just wasn't. If FBI Director Comey wanted to come into the team room after a hit to celebrate an American victory. Get in here, buddy. You're the FBI director.
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They did. The team did not want him there.
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So. No, there are people that hate Cash Patel because. Because he's connected to Trump. And they're like, how dare you let Cash Patel into your locker room? And you have tainted this victory by letting this MAGA guy. You should have told him no. Who are you to tell the FBI director no? Like, you shouldn't. It should. Again, it should be a thing of unity. And. Because Cash Patel got into the locker room, Cash Patel is the reason they got on a call with Trump. Trump didn't. Trump didn't single out the men and be like, hey, I just want to talk to the men. Cash Patel. So it's a little bit of a domino effect. Right?
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Okay.
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Cash Patel wants to party with the men's team. Now the FBI director is there. Is like, hold on, let me get the big guy on the phone. And they're. And they're having. They're having a moment. And I'm gonna use that same. That same concept of if it was the other way. So. And they're mad because, like, well, you know, we're going to have to. We're gonna have to invite the ladies, too. The guys laugh because I don't. It's. You're just in a good mood. You laugh. That. That video actually gets cut short. There's a couple other guys that go, two for two, baby. As in, like, two for two. Like, we're. Yeah.
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The men both got it.
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Both got it. They're happy about that. In fact, Jack Hughes and his brother Quinn both actually. They went to the gold medal game of. Of the. Of the female team. Yeah. To root them on again. It's really one of the most, like, not divisive moments. The guys are just. They're happy for the ladies, they're happy to talk to the President of the United States. He makes that comment, and they're like, oh, that was really sexist to say, oh, we're gonna have to invite the ladies, too. And everyone's really upset about that. It's not that I'm here to defend that. I'm just here to look at it through a different lens. If Cash Patel had gone to the ladies locker room and if Trump had been on that phone call, and if Trump had said to the ladies, hey, just so you know, you know, let me invite you to the White House, and the guys are, you know, are going to win the gold medal, too, and we're going to have to invite the boys, too. Nobody cares. Like, no one cares. Like, in. In that aspect, to some degree, what I'm venting about is Trump does plenty wrong to be mad about. But you can't be just mad at everything. You can't fight if you're looking for a reason to be divisive about everything.
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Well, you'll find.
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You'll. You'll find.
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If that's what you're looking for, you'll find it. Yeah.
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And I'm just tired of being divided as a country.
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C
I agree with you. I agree.
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They stole my. They still. They're trying to steal my Olympic joy from me. We haven't. We haven't brought the Olympic gold medal for hockey home since 1980. How can there be. How. How are you going to try to taint this?
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I agree.
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People are, and I'm just tired of it. I'm just.
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I agree that we are divided.
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Yeah, I do.
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I think part of the issue, like we talked about earlier, is that we all have our biases, right? We lean in one direction or the other. I think that sometimes when we let that bias
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creep in.
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Creep in. Yeah. Thank you. Once we let that bias creep in, it might overshadow any valid point that we're making, because that bias is in the forefront. It sucks up the oxygen. You know what I mean? And if you're trying to change someone's mind, someone whose opinion you care about. Yeah. You might lose them. Any valid point you make might be overshadowed by any obvious bias. You know? So I think the challenge is trying to be objective, meaning that applying the same scrutiny, whether it's praise or criticism, applying it across the board, like we talked about earlier, regardless of who does whatever it is. And I'm not. Not. Not dependent on who the person is. Who the person is that's doing it, because I'm for it. If he does it, I'm against it. If it's against him. That kind of thing.
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Right.
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And that I think the.
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So it's a. Let me. It's a, it's a softball question. We're, we're roughly the same age, although you have a lot more gray hairs than I do. But that's. Don't, don't focus on that. Don't focus on that.
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Is there any, any hair dye in the room's Got enough to share?
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I said don't focus on that.
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Don't.
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Sorry.
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Let me get my point.
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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Didn't bin Laden have been London, that dark colored hair. Sorry, Rob. And Rob knows that. But anyway, are we, here's a softball question. Are we in your lifetime, are we the most divided we've ever been?
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I think so.
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I don't know how. It's close. How, how do we get here?
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I don't know.
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When, when, when did it start?
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I don't know. I don't, I don't know.
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And that's what's a little bit crazy. I, I have, I can take, I can take against some stabs in the dark, you know, for. But, but I don't know. So some of, some of the problems are this. If you don't know where something started and you don't know its beginning point, which, when there's a beginning point, you can continue to peel that, that, that onion back and you say, okay, if it started here, this is when it started. So we can start digging into why it started. You have to know the why to get a, to get a counter to it.
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If we're having something don't. Which I don't think very specific though. However. So what metric are you using to say that we're divided? In what. In what sense?
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I would.
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Just the way that you feel the.
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No, the ideologically. Yeah. Start with the Olympics have. There's a great one.
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C
It feels that way.
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Right. But it doesn't just feel that way. Have you ever seen another Olympics where someone wins the gold medal, has the FBI director in and people are, are upset. People are, people are upset that people are, are going. And this is, this is in sports in general. Like every team that wins currently of this because it's the most divided we've ever been. Like with Trump, with Trump in office before Trump. And I'm not saying this was the beginning of it. I'm saying this is the worst part of it. But with Trump in office, every national title, every national championship Every NBA winner, NFL winner, all those people go to the White House.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Now it is a decision, do we go to the White House or not? And every team that does or doesn't, it's a big story because it's become politicized. Right. And now even our Olympics are political and it's, and it's divided. And so for the most divided we've ever been, the logical question is, you know, how did we get here? When did it start? What was the starting point? But that is a hard question to answer. And so this is what frustrates me even more. If I can't really answer that question. Well, what is it to make me think it's going to get better? Because I can't really.
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I would say maybe on the spot. I cannot answer that question.
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Yeah.
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C
But if we were to look to dive deep into that question specifically and do homework on that.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? In time, there might be metrics that you can find. However, off the top of my head, I can't think of any. So I, I can't speak about that as to the exact point of when it started or exactly why we are.
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B
Yeah.
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C
This far.
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B
And we can go. And we, we can take the State of the Union address. Over half the Democrats sat out the State of the Unit address. You know, I, I looked for, for Biden. And I, I don't mean to make this as it's, it's a, to make it political or to pro one and anti the other. I'm just making a statement that, of showing a fact that the Democrats aren't even showing up at the State of Union address, but under Biden, like the Republicans still showed up. But even with that, again, out of transparency, I have a problem with that. And some of you guys may not like this, and that's fine. But I hope some of you, it's why you tune in if you're going to show up just to heckle the president. I don't, I don't, I don't care if it's Joe Biden. I don't care if it was Kamala Harris. It's the president. Don't show up to the State of the Union. If you're going to yell out from the crowd and disrespect the president like we're on a national stage. Everyone's looking at, looking at us like, don't, don't do that. So even though the Republicans showed up for Biden, plenty of Republicans yelled out just to harass them. So you don't really get. You don't, you don't get credit for showing up if you're going to be disrespectful, you know. Right. And I just. How did we get here? And, and is there any hope that it's going to change?
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I think it's because it's in, it's on social media. It's everywhere. It's everywhere. Politics is everywhere. It's in the Olympics now. You know, people are upset because, you know, the Democrats behave that way during the State of the Union. It's everywhere. I think we're the only. So I live in Portugal. There were recent, There were elections recently. I didn't even know that there were elections.
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B
Yeah.
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C
There are no signs up in the U. S. We are politic. Politicizing or we're running campaigns so far in advance that everything. And then it comes to how much can I trash my opponent? When you're, when you're running, when you're campaigning against each other. And I'm afraid that that's continued like after the, the, after the campaign is done and the election is done, and then people continue to, to go down that road. And I don't know. I don't have the answer for that. I don't know. I wish it was not this way. Yeah.
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B
I'm, I just am. I'm getting to a point of a frustration and there's, there's some things you can do. Like you can. You can continue to point out how the other side is wrong, how ridiculous the other side is. And to be honest, I'm not saying that's wrong. I mean, like, if, if you truly believe someone's wrong with good debate, debate and outside of name calling, you should be able to have that conversation. But at some point now, I think we're even past that point because, because no one's listening. So my next step of reason to be like, okay, we're. We're on these opposite sides and we're going to. And we're going to be on these. Up on these opposite sides. How do we live together? How do we stop the hate?
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C
It's. I think it takes. Because politics can be so tribal, especially right now in the United States, a difference of opinion might seem like an attack on a person as opposed to having an opposing opinion. Nothing personal. It is just. I don't. I see it differently.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Sometimes some individuals internalize that and say, wait, that's an attack on me because I've been believing that way and now my feelings are hurt or whatever. People dig their Heels and they're not trying to listen, they're just waiting for their chance to, to say something back. I think if we take a moment to not just listen, but actually.
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B
Yeah.
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C
An honest attempt to look at the, at the, the topic. The issue.
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B
Yeah.
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C
From the other perspective. Well, like a good faith attempt. Not. I'm pretending, but I'm really gonna, you know, get you what I got you. Exactly.
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B
I'm just waiting for you to shut up so I can, so, so I can tell you my point exactly.
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C
If you approach it, I think in good faith and you're really trying to get, to solve the issue, not necessarily win the argument to really get to the, to the, to the issue and why we are where we are instead of trying to win the argument, I think that would change.
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B
You said something that I really agree with and I think if someone did a study on, on this, I think it really would show a correlation. You brought up social media. I love social media. I do. It helps me promote my brands, it helps me gather information. It helps, it makes me laugh when, when, you know, when, when I'm in a bad mood. Like it's. Social media is great, but it is absolutely been weaponized and because of algorithms. I think what it's really done unintentionally. I don't believe this is done intentionally. I just don't. But what it's done is it's allowed people who are on this side and this belief get their. Get fed this and fed and, and because they, they, they like that and, and they, so they algorithm. Oh, I know what you like now. And it just riles people up beyond belief on both sides. And I really wonder if, and, and, and I hate to say if that's the problem. It's almost an unsolvable problem because social media, you're not changing, ain't going away. And that's, that's. I really think, I think the correlation with the popularity and the use of, of social media, I think you could see an equal amount of divide in this country.
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C
I could. I agree with you. Well, I agree with you because I can see and you have a valid point. It's a fact. Once you hit on something that you like, you get more of it.
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B
Right.
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And if you want to hear something, some more of this particular argument is going to keep feeding you that keep reinforcing whatever it is that your belief is. And I think that adds to the divide.
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B
Yeah.
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C
And then it creates anger against the other side because not that any one side is an angel or, or, or completely Evil or anything like that, but.
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B
Hey, Drew, I want to. We got 500 people watching live right now. Drew, can you. Can you poll the audience? Okay. And this is. This is a question. It's just a yes or no question. See how I want to word it? Right? I just actually just real blatant. Or.
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C
Does Brent use hair dye?
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B
I do. I've said it before. I do.
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A
I do.
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B
It still wouldn't be as gray as yours, but we'll never know. I guess we'll never know are. We'll just make a real generic. Can America be saved? If you want to just heard, you know, the conversation we just had. They. They. They know.
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C
Hold on, hold on. Let's. Let's rephrase that, okay? Because I believe.
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B
Can it be mended? Do you like that? That better? What do you want?
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A
Can it return to unity?
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C
Can it return to unity without social. Well, social media is always going to be there, but that algorithm.
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B
Okay, if.
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C
If that algorithm is reversed or at least what's the way that I can put it where it's not just feeding you what you want to hear?
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B
Right?
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C
It. Would that have an effect, I think, towards. Towards unity.
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B
I mean, right off the bat. And we can do more polls right off. Okay. I just want to know. Can. What? You know, can. Yeah. Can America have unity again in our lifetime?
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C
I think so.
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B
You think so.
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C
I think so.
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B
Don't you? Don't sway the audience. Sorry. Because you're a likable guy. They like you.
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A
Our audience.
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C
Okay, audience.
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Our audience is already here when they heard.
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C
We are never going to return back.
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We have type in the audience.
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C
Sorry, it's over.
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B
All right, go. Go through that. And I'll be interested in. And what. What the people say. They have a voice here. And unlike our elections, it is not tainted. Old Dominion has nothing to do with our voting system. We are. We are the purest form of voting.
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C
Wait.
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B
I'm proud of that. All right, Drew, when you're done, let's return to Super Chats.
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A
Magnum handout says you need to have Brad Colbert on legendary Recon Marine the Iceman. Okay. He just did a show with Andy and is now open to talking more publicly.
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B
Oh, nice. Especially if he's been on with Andy. Then I can get a hold of him. Do you know Brad Colbert?
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C
I don't, but I tune in for that one.
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B
Okay.
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Iceman. SCB says, serious question. How many men are leaving the Marine Corps to be a green Garay after we got rid of sta. Platoon?
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Hogs.
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Hogs. Xavier. Any Thoughts?
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C
I don't know currently, but I did see a lot of Marines transitioning to the army because, one, you get promoted faster in the army and the opportunities to do special operations, at least at that point, because MARSOC was in its infancy right when. When I left, so it wasn't a thing yet.
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Okay.
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I think it's because in that sense, you can get promoted faster and you can do the special operations mission, I think, more often.
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Okay.
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C
But that's. My information is dated, though.
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B
Yeah. Still more relevant than theirs.
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C
Okay.
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B
Oh, what is. What is that screen drew?
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Well, that's what happens when the Internet does what the Internet wants to do.
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Reloading.
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Yeah. Re. Loading. Speaking of the State of the Union and the hockey team, there. There is something I think, I hope everyone's pretty unified about. Again, not a hockey fan. I'm here to tell you I'm. I'm out of my comfort zone. But I'm. But I'm trying to. I'm trying. Our. I do know this. Our goalie, Connor Hellebeck. Hellebeck, I believe, is how you pronounce his name. Absolute machine. They're gonna. I know this enough about. About hockey and just sports in general, when whoever's getting more shots on goals, it's just math. You're. You're probably gonna win, have more opportunities. And let me tell you, while I'm watching this, I'm watching the Canadiens shoot at our goal a lot more than their goal. Yeah. And it just didn't. It didn't feel good. Didn't feel like we were going to win because it's just. Just a matter of time for one or two slip in.
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C
They are a hockey powerhouse.
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B
Right. And man, that guy. To only let one goal after the barrage, this dude. We wouldn't. It's. It's a team sport. I get it. But every now and again, there's a special person on that team that was our goalie, which they're nicknaming the Secretary of Defense, and that's good. And, And Trump announced. It's. It's not. It's not unheard of, but not a lot of sports figures. Get this. Trump announced he is going to give the goalie the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Is he?
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C
Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
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B
I thought that was pretty cool. I thought that was really cool, and I think it was very, very deserving.
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C
Did. Did the goalie get mvp?
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B
I don't think they do MVP for. For the Olympics. Nah, they'll do it for the Stanley cup and things like that, but.
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C
Yeah, but it Shows you how much I watched.
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B
It's fine.
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C
That's how much I know about hockey.
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B
But that, that was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. That is pretty cool.
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C
Actually.
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B
He deserves it. In fact, there is a. I mean, Trump was always very bombastic of every, everything he does. But he basically, basically asked the team. He was like, hey, if anyone says no, then I'll have to. I'll take that in consideration. But he asked the hockey team. He's like, hey, this is what I'm thinking about doing. Give and. But you know, but everyone has to say yes for me to do this.
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Just.
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I don't want to ask. Every one of them said yes.
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C
I like just.
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B
Ah.
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C
I like that.
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B
Gotta love those.
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C
I like that. Especially when your peers.
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A
Right.
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B
And for Jack Hughes to be missing a teeth because that he, he got hit by a high stick. And you've seen the video of him missing a tooth that happened during the game. He's missed. He has a chip tooth. He's missing.
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C
Those hockey players are. They're hard as nails anyways.
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B
Yeah.
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C
I think they go out there, some of them just to fight and play hockey on the side, you know what I mean?
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B
With this dude, Jack Hughes, who, who, who got the, who got the, the high stick. He's missing teeth and he's out there after that. He's the one who scores the overtime game winner. The guy missing teeth from, from a high stick. And because he's got a mission to accomplish. He does. I know the. I, I want to start a, a, A campaign that he replaces that tooth with a gold tooth. What would be more. No, no, no, don't mock that. No, I'm serious.
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C
I am too.
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B
Okay. Thank you.
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C
So sorry.
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B
I want him to come back to the NHL. I'm sure there's a dentist that'll do it for free and just, and just replace that thing with a gold tooth.
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C
Because your White House dentist.
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B
More.
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C
There was like two teeth.
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Yeah. Once chipped for sure. Once it wasn't completely missing.
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C
Just to redo the whole grill. The whole piece.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Show. Show up back to the NHL with a gold grill and be like, yeah, iron this. And he did. But he was so humble.
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C
So he caught a hockey stick.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Straight to the mouth.
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B
Yeah, straight to the mouth. And he went right to the ice for deservingly so for a little bit. Then got back up, got back in the game.
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C
But just, oh, let me score the goal real quick.
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B
There's. And there's more to that story, the Jack Q story that I started looking into is even more special. He came right out of high school and he goes to the NHL. Number one pick at a high school. Out of high school and.
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C
Okay.
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B
And he's. He's the chosen one, right? Like, right out of high school. Number one pick. You're the man. And he finds out, like, his. His rookie year in the NHL, he didn't do good. And everyone's expecting all this.
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C
He's with the big boys now, right?
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B
Yeah. And just. But all this pressure on him and he's like, I'm not having fun. Like, these guys are bigger, stronger, faster. This is the NHL. People think that as a high schooler come just because of the number one pick. I'm gonna come out and change the game.
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Yeah.
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I'm just. I'm just trying to figure out this new speed. Yeah. I'm just trying to keep up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, of course. And then I think he's 24 now.
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New Jersey Devils.
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Yeah. And now, years later, he. He dealt with that adversity and he ends up winning the gold medal for Team usa. Just what everything about the Team USA hockey team.
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C
That's a cool story.
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B
This is a cool story.
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C
I hope they make a move out of that one.
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B
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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C
That's right. Oh, that's right.
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That. We're taking credit for that one, too. We're taking credit for that one, too. The Medal of Honor winner and Miracle on Ice, too.
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C
Can I play one of the hockey players? Yes.
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B
Well, you have to.
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C
I can.
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B
No, no.
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C
I can blend these days.
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B
You have to. They're. They're going. In fact, they will. More than likely they'll pitch you the Jack Hughes role.
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C
Because of my grow pieces.
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B
But the kicker is, they're going to make him a gay black band. You're also going to have to be gay if Disney. If Disney does the movie. Think about it. Think. Don't say. Don't say no yet. You don't know what the contract. You don't know.
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Say yes.
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B
Okay. All right.
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C
Gives me an opportunity. All right.
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D. He says, did anyone make X say, I know who I am. I'm the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude. Yeah, that's it.
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C
That's what that is.
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A
I'm the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude.
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B
Oh, wow.
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A
Tier one piss bottles. Sponsor the Florida Man Games next year.
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B
Do something like that. That's funny. That's funny.
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C
That's funny.
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A
Right wing nut says Brent 77 grain Mk2 Mod1 or Hornad die Hornady 75 grain SBR. From an 11.5 bar.
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B
Oh, what are you doing with it, 77?
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C
Well, yeah.
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B
What are you doing?
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C
If I had to choose just. Just based on that information, nothing else.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. I think I have enough because you told me which one and so. And, and they're both within the same realm. Yeah, I'm probably going 77 gr. It's a good one. But both, but they're, they're really, they're. They're both excellent options. You wouldn't be upset by either one. But I'm going 77.
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C
No, the only reason I'm not keen on. On 11.5 is because. So if I don't know exactly what I'm doing, I'm looking at something called full spectrum rifle. And eleven and a half. I would want like fourteen and a half or something like that.
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B
Yeah, exactly. The problem with the 77 grain and 11 and a half is if you're going to go 77 grain, give it a little more barrel length to take advantage of that. Of that added velocity.
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C
Exactly.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Hard stuck back in. Says last comment was supposed to be a joke. All right, so. Oh, a JFK joke. That's. That was the. Can you shoot three times in 5.2 seconds? I think.
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B
Oh.
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A
On a moving target. Oh, he says, I appreciate the tactics. Was Oswald tracking or ambushing?
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B
I get it, man. I get it.
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C
I feel bad for missing that one. That's.
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A
That's. Oh, thank you. Clarification.
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B
That was a hard one to.
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C
Thanks for verifying.
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B
Yeah, but thank you for verifying.
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C
Was he tracking. If he hit him three times, I'd say he was tracking.
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B
Yeah. Oh, yeah. But that. People aren't going to hear this. I know there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there. He wasn't moving very fast. He was close. It wasn't a very far shot. If I remember right.
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A
It was very close.
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50 meters.
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A
It's not far.
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B
It wasn't even a true left to right. It was a little bit more of a.45. So even though, I mean, he's going slow enough for the Secret Service to power walk or jog beside. And only one of those shots really hit the target.
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C
Okay.
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B
The one was a miss. One was a graze, if I remember right. So. So if. If you're going back to those. If you're going back to those metrics, that's actually really easily.
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C
Because he had to take into account the weapon system. He had.
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B
Yeah, it wasn't that hard of a shot. It just wasn't. But no, no, no, Josh, there's a reason you don't get a microphone. Oh, man. Because that one hit was mind blowing. Oh, did I say that low enough?
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C
That was good. That was good.
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A
Yeah. You said they didn't hear it, Brent.
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C
I did not hear it.
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A
Kane Corsov says they saw. I'm sorry. They say there aren't any atheists in foxholes. Are there many atheists in Delta? Do you think you saw more? Men find a faith in God or lose it over the course of the war.
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B
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C
I don't think there are atheists.
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B
That's a tough question. I'm sure there's an atheist. But you know what? He. He wouldn't be very welcomed in the team room. Don't get me wrong. That I'm not telling you that. That you're. That the Delta Force is full of Bible thumpers. Right. But that's. That's an. That's an outlier to be like.
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C
You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. I had a lot of buddies in, like, in other squadrons, and we did talk about religion sometimes, and it wasn't as big a deal for some as it was for others.
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B
Yeah. And I'm.
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C
But to the point that they would. They would oust someone or not get along or not last very long simply because they did not.
- [137:01]
B
Yeah, for sure. The only thing I'm upset about is that I wish you'd have told me at the time you had friends in other squadrons. I'd have stopped that.
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C
Why? Do you have an answer?
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B
No. Just because I like giving you a hard time.
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C
Because you're like, are you friends with X?
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B
No.
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C
You can't have that. He belongs to us. Only us.
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B
I'm always looking for a reason to give you a hard time.
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C
Well, even J team was upset when I went with you guys
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B
on the. On which one?
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C
The ski.
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B
Okay. I thought. I thought the ski trip. Yeah. Oh, no, no, sir. We did not go on a ski trip. What did we go on?
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C
Cold weather training.
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B
Cold weather downhill mobility training.
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C
Correct.
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B
Because a snowboarding trip would just be that you'd have to question a snowboarding trip, but downhill, cold weather, mobility training. That's what we did.
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A
Yes.
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C
And I didn't do that very gracefully.
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B
That was a great.
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C
Not a lot of skiing in. In Dr. No.
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B
Man, I'm so glad you're. You're able to go on that trip. We had a good time on that trip. They just could. Wholesome fun. Yeah.
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A
But our.
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C
Our buddies on J team, it felt like I cheated on them.
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B
Yeah.
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C
That was the. That was the sentiment that. That I got once I returned.
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B
All right, now we got to tell some stories real quick.
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C
Quick.
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B
I can't remember what it was, but I think it was like some colleges spring break going on at the same time.
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C
Yes.
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B
Do you remember the beer pong?
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C
Yes, I do.
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B
That. That we got involved with?
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C
Yes, I do.
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B
Who. Who? I know I. Were you with me on the. Who played with me? You did. Talking mad trash. They kind of started it, but. But I was more than happy to. To keep it going.
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C
Yes.
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B
And it. It got a little dicey. But they. They were good sports.
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C
They were. They were.
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B
Yeah.
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C
I don't.
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B
Well, you got Charlie. Oh, no. He's out. When you got Charlie Ross behind you. And no one's. No one's getting too lippy with you. He was a large man.
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C
Bring out the gimp.
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B
Yeah. All right, what else we got?
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A
Interesting X. In the. In the regular chats, there's someone named Monica Adkins. She says that her husband.
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C
Yeah. Was with.
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A
It was a friend of yours in the Green Beret days.
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C
That is correct. Chris. Chris Atkins. Really good friend of mine.
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A
Monica's in the chats.
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C
Monica. How you doing?
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A
There it is.
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C
It's good to see her out there. Yeah.
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A
Let's see. We've got. Would Delta have found or caught DB Cooper.
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C
If we jump out of the plane with him? Maybe.
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B
Yeah. Get a parachute with them. Absolutely. If they were on the plane, he'd have ne. He'd have never got away with that.
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C
But I don't know about investigative services from the.
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B
Yeah, that would. But I don't. You know, back then it's a little bit different because the way we track people change. But I knew, I do know, like. Like tracking people like footsteps and like your tradition trackers was something we did a lot back in the day. And if I. I believe if you'd have got us on the case soon enough, especially with our expertise and skydiving and winds and knowing where he left the plane, where he could have been. They're the. They're the best Problem solvers in the planet. I believe if anyone could have done it, it would have been them.
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C
I think it would. Was there a starting point. Would there have been a starting point to. To. For the search? Because I don't know much. I know that he disappeared, but I don't know if there would have been a starting point on the ground.
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B
Right. I mean, it would have been a. It would have been a starting area. Area because it would have depended on the winds that day, of course, the altitude. Okay. If the best possible guess we can have of when. Of when he jumped out and which. And we would have known the. The tracking of the airplane. So we'd have known, okay, he jumped out while the airplane was here. But there's so many variables on that. That doesn't mean we know when he pulled.
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C
I. I would not even. I don't think we would. I don't know. I don't have the skills.
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B
It'd be. It'd be a. Be a tall order. Be a tall order.
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C
I don't know how that would happen.
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A
All right. How arms.
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B
All right.
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A
Brother says how. Always a great Thursday night. Ready to see you guys in a few weeks. We've heard those promises before. We're looking forward to it.
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B
He got the go to come. I'm on Thursday.
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A
Cool. Welder Faber says finally you have a Brit on the live. David.
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C
Oh, £50.
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A
Question. I heard the 22 SAS used to walk onto US bases in the GWAT and it drove the US crazy. Caused a big deal. They said they were just training and also using it to test base defenses, but also was very polite
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B
that I. I don't know if they Red sale. Red celled our bases. I've. I've never heard of that. But doesn't mean. I know. I know everything. That's news to me as well going on, in fact. But that. That'd be a really. All right, I'm just gonna use logic on this. I'm gonna say no to that because our base. Our base security wasn't geared towards British people coming on our base. You know what I mean? Like they were the enemy. So if so that had been a horrible red cell concept. Would have been a much better one was can a local get. Get on the base?
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C
Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I don't. I don't. That doesn't make much sense to me either.
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B
Real quick, Drew, I want to take a quick break from there. I want to talk about this. This email that I got, and it has to do with. With. With threat assessments and And. And Special Agents. So I have an intermediate Threat assessment Bureau. Itab. I don't know if you've ever heard of them. Classification is supposed to be secret eyes only. But we're. We're going to send it. So. To the Office of Oversight, Archivist Division. From Special Agent Jen Lindoff, Field operations. Subject dossier Xavier.
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C
Hold up, hold up.
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B
What's that? What?
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C
Read that sentence again.
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B
We don't have time to read things twice. We don't have time to read things twice.
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C
Proceed.
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B
Trying to sneak that by you. Subject dossier Xavier X. Lindoff.
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A
Xavier.
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B
Multiverse Operations in compliance with FOIA. Case number ITAB 2026 1203. The following. Declassifying mission log complies. Subject Xavier X. Lindoff. Known operation across multiple gaming realities. Certain sensitive identities have been redacted. Per ITAB Directive 49 Section 1. Medieval theater deployment, Koopa Kingdom. Operation Operator X. Inserted into a feudal environment within the Koopa kingdom under ceremonial cover. Leveraging his reputation as a low visibility professional. Unlikely to draw attention from court officials or aggressive reptilian warlords. Mission objective, recover high value royal individual, codename Peach. Following hostile abduction from fire capable reptilian combat, codename Bowser. Operational summary, Operator successfully neutralized the threat environment through disciplined application of quiet competence. Attribution for victory was intentionally redirected towards a contracted civil asset, codename Mario. Allowing Operator X to disengage without spectacle or mushroom based compensation. Outcome. Mission successful. Collateral effects, acute exposure to chainmail ventilation deficiencies subject to reported zero percent moisture wicking capability in the 11th century. Sword mass to mobility miscalculation. Permanent archival imagery depicting controlled tactical bewilderment and visible PTSD subjects. Facial expression suggested 400% crease in. What the F. Am I doing with my life variables at the moment of shutter engagement?
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C
What are you talking about?
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B
What are you talking about? You. You've never engaged in these activities.
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C
I played a lot of Mario.
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A
You played a lot of Mario. So you admit it?
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C
I do. I do. I'm guilty. Guilty as charged.
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B
You're just a little surprised it's been declassified this quick.
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C
This is the kind of that she does to make sure that I am. That I don't get too. Too big for my britches.
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B
Is. Is this true? Can you confirm or deny Section two, Jungle warfare and logistics in the contra theater operator. Embedded within a lateral mobility engagement environment characterized by continuous hostile contact and unrealistic ammunition. System sustainability?
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C
Yes.
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B
Mission objective, advance through terrain and preserve forward momentum regardless of physics compliance. Operational summary. Subject utilize an unauthorized Extended life protocol. Intercepted signals indicate a manual input sequence. Up, up, down, down. Left, right, left, right. Bacon Start to exploit. Granted by the operator. A 3,000% increase in personal redundancy.
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C
Contra. That's. That's how you beat the game, man.
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A
That's Contra.
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C
That's how you play. That's how you play, bro.
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B
Yeah.
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C
She's exposing all my secrets.
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B
Collateral effects reinforce beliefs that jumping into a somersault is an effective way to dodge bullets.
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A
Left and right. Right.
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B
Pathological need to collect flying S symbols for weapon upgrades.
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C
Spreaders, man.
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A
Supply drops.
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C
You know, she was asking me weird questions before I came over. Wanting to reminisce about my video game days.
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A
Why does she know this much about them?
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B
It. It goes on. It. Some of it. Well, we'll just call for. For. For my enjoyment, but it. It goes on into Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter.
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C
Yes, sir.
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B
In the same way.
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A
Classics.
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B
It goes into Halo and Call of Duty. In the. In the same way. That same form. It was hilarious to read.
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C
She's.
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B
That's.
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C
That's my partner, man.
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B
She's my woman.
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C
She's my partner in crime. She's.
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B
You. You still play video games?
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C
I do.
- [148:21]
B
I do. What do you play?
- [148:23]
C
Well, right now I have my daughter's PlayStation 4 because my old. My favorite system used to be Super Nintendo. And that's where. And regular Nintendo. Gosh, you're old all right.
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B
You haven't. Last thing. Analysts note open source indicators suggest Operator X continues limited participation in recreational simulation environments. Inquiry recommended for current platform activity. PS5 verse PC to support report building dialogue and evidence based Wikipedia Reddit updates. Are you looking to get into the PS5 game?
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C
I. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Like I said, she knows me better than anybody else. And. And that's. I love you, babe.
- [149:13]
B
That's love.
- [149:13]
C
Yeah. Yeah. She knows you better than anybody, man. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her anyway.
- [149:19]
B
Yeah. Oh, I. I get that. All right, well, stop talking this nerd about video games. Well, it's actually talking to Drew and you2x.
- [149:32]
C
I love them, man. I did.
- [149:35]
A
Let's see, your buddy Chris Adkins is in here saying, did you ever make the hype video like Janice Core in the Substitute?
- [149:43]
C
No, I didn't know what that means.
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A
People really wanted me to ask it.
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B
There it is.
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A
All right, all right, all right, all right.
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C
Chris, what's up, man?
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A
It is back in Bo. Thank you for the love, man. From the great state of Texas. He says, as a Florida boy, Lake Snake did the Texan out Drive you at Normandy Pool out.
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B
Oh, I'll dive.
- [150:03]
A
Oh, I'll dive. You. I'm sorry.
- [150:06]
B
Yes. Let me take. Let me both. So ridiculous. So we go to Normandy Pool out there on Fort Bragg on our. On our weekends when we're in the echo course. And I don't know why Bo has this ability to. As a. As a larger man. And he's in the Q course. The guy was still probably like 220. He's just a large man, just corn fed Texan big boy. And there is a diving board, like a springy. You know the difference. Like the. Like the ultra springy diving boards. And then get in that. And he can do, you know, inverted flips and he can do, like double flips and a twist.
- [150:51]
C
Triple. Lindy.
- [150:52]
B
Yeah, so could. It's. He could also do what he called the salmon salmon, which. Which is where you just dive off the diving board and he's just. And do this like a salmon. Yes. That was always going upstream. That was always a crowd favorite. Yes. Bo absolutely out dove me because I was like, I grew up with a pool and a diving board. I can do a few flips. And I was like, oh, I got this.
- [151:19]
C
You tried it?
- [151:20]
B
I. I actually did try to match him, and I. You know how it is when. When you're trying to do something you're not capable of doing on the diving board. It's not like you just barely miss it.
- [151:32]
C
It.
- [151:32]
B
I. You could do that or you could try too hard where you just completely fall apart midair and you back flop. That was what I did.
- [151:41]
C
You were the ladder.
- [151:42]
B
I was the ladder.
- [151:43]
C
Yes.
- [151:43]
B
Yes, I was.
- [151:44]
C
I could see it. Did you land flat?
- [151:46]
B
Oh, it was embarrassing.
- [151:49]
C
How many people were there? A lot of people there.
- [151:51]
B
All the people were there.
- [151:52]
A
Just pretty girls.
- [151:53]
B
All the people were there. Oh, gosh. I haven't. I haven't thought about. I haven't thought about that in a long time. You didn't have the weight to get the right spring. Yeah. It's also unfair. Yeah. He was. He was. He was. He was a larger man than me, and so he had a lot more air time than. He had more time to do things.
- [152:09]
C
He was a higher caliber.
- [152:10]
B
Yeah. Anyway, thanks. Thanks for bringing that up.
- [152:15]
A
Welder Faber says your boy James McGregor released a new song, Cag Daddy, dedicated to you.
- [152:21]
B
Good.
- [152:22]
A
Be an outro.
- [152:23]
B
Oh, I'll have to check that out. I did not know that, drew.
- [152:29]
A
Well, James McGregor, is that that guy that we talked about last night?
- [152:32]
B
Yeah. Who. Who did the. The patriotic country song All Right.
- [152:35]
A
I'll. If I get a break, I'll try to find that one. Gregor. Daddy.
- [152:41]
B
Thank you, Welder Faber. Another Patreon member. Holy fooking. For $10, guys. You guys ever run the Kill house with old MP5s and the big mag lights mounted on top with the old respirators like the two 2sas did in the 70s, 80s? Just to feel what it was like back in the day. Did you ever clear house an MP5? It was in the inventory.
- [153:07]
C
No, no, not even in, not even in the Marine Corps, no.
- [153:11]
B
Okay.
- [153:12]
C
They had MP5s.
- [153:12]
B
Yeah.
- [153:13]
C
When I was in Forestry Com. Marine. But no, I never, never. Especially not with the old school gas masks. Oh.
- [153:26]
B
I won't say. I won't say what course I was in, but let's just say I was in a course that was very stressful and a lot was riding on me successfully graduating this course. More stressful than any course I've ever been through.
- [153:43]
A
Okay.
- [153:44]
B
And in this course, we had a. We had a. Both of like a foreign weapons day and like an alternate weapons day. And there was a time later where we had to pick up MP5s for a run and everything's graded and I'm like, fix that, please. And then everything's like, oh, no, don't do this too.
- [154:12]
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [154:14]
B
So I. I got. I gotta run with. With an MP5 on. On a graded run when everything mattered. You want to talk about sweat and bullets?
- [154:24]
C
Yes.
- [154:25]
B
Yeah.
- [154:26]
C
Succeeded.
- [154:26]
B
I'm assuming. What.
- [154:29]
C
The only thing close to that I've done with the. With the gas mask anyways is I have cleared a pitcher with the gas mask.
- [154:38]
B
What have you done?
- [154:39]
C
So those old school gas masks.
- [154:41]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [154:42]
C
Where the filter is here, right?
- [154:44]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [154:44]
C
Remove the filter and put it in a pitcher of beer until the beer comes up and then just drink.
- [154:52]
B
Where'd you do that at?
- [154:53]
C
I have a guess it was with Australians.
- [154:56]
B
Oh, okay. Oh, it was a foreign unit.
- [154:58]
C
Okay. Australian rugby team, actually.
- [155:00]
B
Oh, really? All right.
- [155:03]
C
They showed me something.
- [155:04]
A
All right, we got that. We got the Cat Daddy video ready to go.
- [155:07]
B
Sure. Let's see what we got. Okay, quick. Choose a meal deal with McValue. The five dollar McChicken meal deal, the six dollar McDouble meal deal, or the
- [155:15]
A
new seven dollar Daily Double meal deal. Each with its own small Fries drink and Four Piece McNuggets.
- [155:20]
B
There's actually no rush.
- [155:20]
A
I'm just excited for McDonald's for a limited time only. Prices of participation may vary. Not the album.
- [155:41]
B
It's fa Fo you Wish you didn't know what happens when they lace up them boots. It's F O double D you it bring in the heat. You should think again before you get the truth. No place to run, nowhere to hide. When tier one comes for you. It's not falling come and call the writing is on the wall you don't make mess with red, white and blue. Your time's up, it's lights out.
- [156:28]
A
Wheels up and in bound. Double tap, center mass.
- [156:34]
C
You're through.
- [156:36]
B
Ca Daddy came.
- [156:44]
A
No played. Mr. Mcgregor.
- [156:58]
C
That was pretty good.
- [156:59]
B
That was pretty nice, James. Well done. I like that. Well done. Mind.
- [157:07]
A
All right. Thank you, welder fabric, for letting us know about that one.
- [157:10]
B
Yes, absolutely. Thank you.
- [157:12]
A
Let's see. Aoi Cal says, why does the IC pull soft operators to use for certain missions and use their own operators for others? Do unit guys leave to try out for intel units?
- [157:31]
B
It's a really hard question to answer. To answer. So why does the intel community pull software operators to use for certain missions? Well, because in general, the, the intel community is. Is just that. Everyone. How do I explain it? We're as good as we are because we have lanes and you're expected to be the best in that lane. And so there is a little bit of, of bleed over with certain units and certain capabilities. But for the most part, the intel community's job is to collect Intel. Then our intel community is the best in the world at doing it. They have the most resources. We pick the best people, we have the smartest people. And they do their job and they do it at a high level. Now what our politicians decide to do with that information sometimes is where we falter. But our IC community is, are great people that do an amazing job. And so that is how it should, that's how it should go. They should pull the information and then they should pass it over to the finish force. And that's. And that's how everything works. Do unit guys leave to try out for intel units? That's, there's, that's a, that's a, that's a broad question. Generally speaking, let's say you're doing intel at the unit or anywhere. Anywhere. By the time you get out of the military in your 40s or mid-40s and the intel. And now you have to go to the intel communities in your mid-40s to start a whole new career. And that just really isn't how it works. Like you can plug and play as a civilian and there's certain things that'll trend that, that'll transfer over and some people can do that in different capacities. But generally speaking there's really no need to because they have guys that have been doing this for, for their 20 years and their whole career. So it's not a, I'm not saying it never happens. It's just, it's just not a norm. We're not a, we're not a, a feeding ground for a second career to, to, to go do in the intel community. Again, these are, these are broad strokes and that's, and that's, and that's generally true. Anything you want to add to that?
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C
No, I never saw, not in my experience but again I, I didn't know anybody and everybody in there. So if it did happen right about it.
- [159:59]
B
Yep.
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A
What makes for a great troop commander in both your opinions? What do you personally look for and why? Same question for leaders in general.
- [160:09]
B
That's a good question. X. What do you got for that?
- [160:12]
A
You know you talked about it in the recording.
- [160:14]
C
Yeah. So for me it's boiled down to a person that can be the buffer between the bullshit that's coming from above and allowing you to do your job, to provide you everything that you need to accomplish your mission. Be empowering on that and then be as much of an umbrella so the exterior doesn't affect you and your preparation as much. I think for me someone that, that is able to manage that is important because it allows you to do your job as well as that individual being, you know, fair and just and level headed as well.
- [160:58]
B
Yeah. I'll add one more thing to that, everything you just said. Absolutely true. And the second thing is, and again we kind of talked about in the recording, even the troop commander in the day, the officer is overall in charge. I keep, he is. So his job is to say is to believe in, in his NCOs and believe in the teams underneath them. And when they ask for something, training wise, equipment wise, whatever they, they ask for or need is for you to say yes to as many things and find a way to that yes rather than to take the easy no because it's always just so much easier to say no sometimes.
- [161:39]
C
Yes, yes and, and it might require a justification or something like that, but once you, you can articulate like why you want something, that's right. They should facilitate that and allow you to go train and do your job and then try to minimize any other nonsense that might come your way, that might get into the way in the way of your preparation.
- [162:00]
B
Yep, absolutely. What else we got?
- [162:04]
A
We got. Hoskier says Brent, you should try to get Greg Gravy Coker on the show. 160th Little Bird gunship pilot from the great state of Texas. Thanks for everything you and X have done for this country.
- [162:22]
B
I'm glad I said the great state of Texas, because I just said just the great state. I'd assumed Florida. Yeah, it would have been confusing, but he. Leave me to that.
- [162:29]
A
Okay, B. Jordan says funniest story you guys have on target.
- [162:36]
B
Oh, on target. But there's just so many. Well, you gotta. You got. Do you have a favorite or just a. A funny story?
- [162:44]
C
Not necessarily funny on target.
- [162:46]
B
I mean, funny things happen on target, but
- [162:51]
C
nothing interesting enough.
- [162:52]
B
Yeah, I'm just. I have to think off the top of my head one of. One of my favorite on target stories. Gosh, there's a lot to choose from actually. Comes from my. My sf. My SF days. Me and a buddy of mine made it up to a cupola. We were going to finish clearing the. The top of the roof. And I remember he was. He was in front of me. He goes left, I go right. I get to my corner, I collapse down, and he's nowhere to be seen. And I was like, where'd he go? I guess he was in a hurry and collapse the sector and then ran back down the cupola. Is okay. Is. You know, is what I'm guessing, because they found.
- [163:33]
C
Yeah.
- [163:34]
B
And then I thought I knew who it was in front of me. I wasn't sure. And then. And we were going back to the hilos, and one of our guys was. Was kind of limping back to the hilo, and I was like, hey, what's. You okay? He's like, I'm fine. Well, okay. All right. And then eventually I got it out of him and he was like. He was like, man. He's like, don't tell anyone. But I was. I was. I was the one man going up the. To clear the. The rooftop. The cupola was like, offset to the left. So as soon as he came out, he chose to go left. You can go left or right, but under nods. You can't really see underneath you. And he walked right off the roof. Oh, no.
- [164:18]
A
Oh.
- [164:19]
B
So the guy was like, oh, he must have ran down and flipp full kit and everything.
- [164:22]
C
Oh, man.
- [164:23]
B
He walked right off the roof.
- [164:25]
C
Oh, my back hurts. Just listen to that.
- [164:27]
B
I laughed so hard. So hard at that. He's like, brent, don't tell anyone. I'm like, you're asking a lot. You're asking a lot.
- [164:38]
C
Speaking of. So that reminds me of one under nods. I was in. I was a. The senior Bravo. I was in Iraq with SF this time now with recon. And we had just, the 219. We had just conducted a night raid on. On an objective.
- [164:57]
B
Right.
- [164:57]
C
And we were exfilling and I was going to lead the stack to the aircraft. And we're ready to go. Everything inside is done and we're moving back outside. And I'm under nods and I'm going. And I didn't see this ditch. It didn't look as deep. Right, Right.
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A
Yeah.
- [165:16]
C
So I go and I step and I fall into it.
- [165:19]
B
Yeah.
- [165:19]
C
And I am covered from here in the ditch. My rifle is here. The problem is that was the, the sewer.
- [165:28]
B
Oh, no.
- [165:30]
C
And I was like, somebody please take this from me, you know, and help me up. And then in the aircraft, it was everybody else and me. I said, they're like, yeah, on timeout, man.
- [165:44]
B
You have to smell like that the whole mission.
- [165:47]
C
Freezing. Because of course, sitting in the back, hey, I'm wet from.
- [165:52]
B
Yeah. Anyway, you're kind of lucky it was cold. Cuz had it been warm, it actually would have been even worse. Not that there's anything a lot better or good about that situation. That.
- [166:04]
C
That's probably the worst one I've ever had.
- [166:05]
B
Yeah.
- [166:08]
A
Chart surging says, how are you finding life in Portugal? Portugal, Xavier.
- [166:14]
C
I love it. I love it. It's. It's clean, it's safe, it's affordable. The wine is delicious. The food is fantastic. Everybody's friendly. There's no crime. You know what I mean?
- [166:24]
B
Do you have any near or long term plans of coming back?
- [166:29]
C
Right now I want to get the reason we're there when we enjoy it. You know, I mean, I can live off of my retirement.
- [166:37]
B
Yep.
- [166:38]
C
And, and still pay all my bills and just. And just be. So everything that I do with Greystone and training is just extra.
- [166:47]
B
Yeah.
- [166:47]
C
Which is nice. And it's. It's a huge stress relief to be able to sit there and do that. Yeah. We do intend on. On doing something back here in the States.
- [166:59]
B
Okay.
- [166:59]
C
For sure. But for the time being, I want to get citizenship because I want to have access to the EU as well.
- [167:06]
A
Okay.
- [167:07]
C
I want to travel freely in the EU as I do here in the States.
- [167:09]
B
Okay.
- [167:10]
C
And for my kids as well, because they're, they're really enjoying it over there, so I love it.
- [167:14]
B
Okay. Makes sense.
- [167:15]
A
So are you legal over there?
- [167:17]
C
I'm a resident right now.
- [167:19]
B
Yes.
- [167:20]
A
So you're legal over there. Are you legal here?
- [167:22]
C
Yes, I am.
- [167:23]
A
You're legal in both. Wow. Well, good on you for being legal.
- [167:26]
C
I'm a citizen here and I'm a resident incident over there.
- [167:30]
B
What do they. Yeah, okay. Actually I do have questions about that now.
- [167:34]
C
Yeah. Yeah.
- [167:34]
B
Because, you know, obviously I've been to Europe a lot, but you know, both with work and sometimes with. For pleasure. But it's always very short, short term. Right. So whatever it is, you need a visa. Visa is usually only good for. And depends on the country. May make it up 30 days. What's the requirement when you're like, hey, I'm a. We'll take Portugal specific for an example. I'm a, you know, I'm a citizen of America, but I want to stay longer than a normal visa. Like, what's the process of that? Do you have a time limit? Do you have to re up every now and again? What's the paperwork for that there?
- [168:05]
C
So Jen handled the bulk of that paperwork. So you don't submit finances? No, I don't. But you do have to submit finances. You have to have a certain amount of passive. Passive income. That's the main thing.
- [168:21]
B
Okay.
- [168:21]
C
Passive income to be able to support yourself. So you are not.
- [168:26]
B
So you're not a draw on their society.
- [168:27]
C
Exactly. You're not a draw on their system. So we have passive income, we get private insurance, we pay our rent and everything like that. And everything that our passive income is now going into. Yeah, their economy. Because we're paying rent, buying groceries, doing all that stuff.
- [168:42]
B
Yeah. What a great idea.
- [168:43]
A
Don't you have to come back here
- [168:44]
C
and then go back over there? No, you don't have to. No, no, we just renewed it.
- [168:48]
B
Yeah.
- [168:49]
C
What about gun laws over there? They. So as long as you have a hunting license, which I, I got my hunting license. It's all in Portuguese.
- [168:59]
B
Okay.
- [168:59]
C
Take the exam. And then you get a carry permit, which is easier. Easy to get. Once you have your hunting license, then you can, you can have weapons. Yeah. To go hunting. So there's no restrictions over there as far as like, not like, or anything like that there? Yes, there are magazine type restrictions. No automatic weapons, that kind of stuff, but semi automatic, like an assault rifle. And they have gun stores there? Yes, they do.
- [169:26]
B
Yeah.
- [169:26]
C
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
- [169:28]
B
Why you want to get.
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A
Yeah, you want to open one up there?
- [169:30]
B
Trying to get lion arms.
- [169:32]
C
The gun culture there is.
- [169:33]
B
You want to open up a gun
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A
store with them Line arms.
- [169:35]
B
Portugal. All right.
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A
Portugal branch.
- [169:38]
B
All right. Love it.
- [169:40]
C
You'd have customers, though.
- [169:41]
B
But you know what, What a novel idea. I'd like to think that we are the best and we're best a lot of things, but that type of system, if we adopted that, that's a better system than ours. But. And no one calls Portugal racist for, you know, for doing that.
- [169:58]
C
That's the way our particular.
- [170:01]
B
I'm not mad at that at all.
- [170:04]
C
It works for us.
- [170:07]
B
What else we got?
- [170:08]
A
Groff says. What do you personally think about female 11 Bravos and the girls that have made it to SF? Do you think a female can make it through the long walk and would she be accepted on a team?
- [170:20]
B
That's a good, good question for me. Consistent here. X, what do you got?
- [170:25]
C
So for me, as long as, if someone meets or exceeds the standard, whatever that standard is, I don't care, male or female. For me, I do not care as long as that person meets or exceeds the standards. As far as being accepted, that would have to be like on a case by case basis, depending on the individuals, if they would accept it. I don't have an issue with it.
- [170:52]
A
No.
- [170:54]
B
And we're going to show people exactly how it's done to disagree. Respectfully, I don't have a problem with that opinion. I don't. That's, that is your opinion. And you see how I didn't call him a name or ask him to leave my podcast.
- [171:09]
C
I'm still offended.
- [171:10]
B
I know. Don't you dare, don't you start with me. The here's. And that's part of it. And of course like that, that's a part. And usually when we disagree, you'll find there's a lot of things we agree on and if, if, if they meet the standard, as long as standards are not lowered to the same standard. And I think that's what most people are initially upset about, that not just the, the, the rumors, but the absolute positive. It happened where we, where we lowered standards to, to pave the way for girls. And I hate this, this part of it, they did that and it's not conspiracy theory. They did that in preparation for girls and then girls came through and then met, and then met this new standard and it goes back to good intention, bad execution.
- [172:05]
C
Okay.
- [172:06]
B
And what you did by that is now when girls met these new standards and they're in, they're automatically questioned. Maybe those same girls would have met the old standards. We'll never know because you lowered the standards and so you did them no justice by trying to help them, if you will. Didn't help them at all by giving the ammunition that they're already looking for. But regardless, if they didn't My problem isn't just the, that they can make it. It's more of the, the social dynamic teams have to be. And your team sergeant, you know this better than, than, than anyone else. The, the team dynamic has to be strong and it has to weather multiple countries for long periods of time.
- [172:57]
C
Agreed.
- [172:58]
B
And this is where it's my opinion. And that's, and that's, that's why I don't get adamant about it. My opinion is when you put a girl in a team full of guys. Yeah. You're laughing already because you know I'm going with this.
- [173:11]
A
You know, you don't even have to go there.
- [173:13]
B
And it's not. And, and, and weird way again, that's not necessarily the girl's fault either. But let's, but let's live in, but let's live in reality and let's, and then of course when we go into this other thing is we have our American. Let's, let's take SF specifically because we have to live in other people's cultures. We have to respect their culture. Real estate won't respect us. So we're very culturally sensitive. We can't put our American standards on these other countries that have standards that don't respect women. It's going to affect the team that we sent if they have a female. What do you think about that perspective of it?
- [173:54]
C
I, I agree with you on that. Yeah.
- [173:55]
A
The.
- [173:56]
C
I agree on the sense that in a place like Afghanistan, a female is not going to lead the conversation with, in a key leader engagement. It's just not, it's not going to happen culturally. They will not accept that. Doesn't matter how much you want to, you know, fix the situation. For them to do that, they will. So in that particular case. No, it wouldn't. It will not work. Yeah. As far as having females with guys on deployment, history says that every time somebody. Some, some happens.
- [174:31]
B
Yeah.
- [174:32]
C
Generally speaking. Not every time. I take that back. Not every time. But, but that, that I can see that can be an issue. Yes, it is because it has and I've seen it on multiple deployments. Whenever there's a female involved, there's usually dudes trying to. Yeah. Get friendly.
- [174:53]
A
Look, fellas, if, if we have a female that can meet an exceptional seat, exceed Delta Force standards above the men that are trying out for Delta, we've got a bigger problem than a woman in Delta Force.
- [175:08]
B
We have a problem with our standards and.
- [175:10]
A
Okay. And we're our men.
- [175:11]
B
Right. Yeah.
- [175:13]
A
Or the men that are trying and can't do it.
- [175:15]
B
Yeah.
- [175:16]
A
And they got beat by a girl.
- [175:17]
B
But you'll never have that problem. The Delta Force, because the Delta Force will not change its standards. It hasn't. It hasn't in 40 plus years and ain't going to the next 40 years. And that's what I love about the unit. They're not changing their standards.
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C
I think the process that the unit has works. Yeah, I think it works.
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B
Yeah. Do I, Is this a second chance? Do I think a female can make it through the long walk and would be accepted on teams? Let's take that for a second. And it's just because of the, the physical and biological makeup of females. Again, if it was just the long walk. If you know, we're like, there's kind of two terms of the long walk. I think they could do just the long walk. I don't think their, their bodies could make it through the whole selection process. Is there one absolute physical freak out there that could do it? Maybe. I definitely wouldn't say there's zero percent chance of it happening. Maybe.
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C
I don't think there's a zero percent chance either. Yeah, I think there are a lot of physically there are physical studs, females that if given the opportunity, I think some of them would, I think some of them would. They're more physical than, than you and I are.
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B
Right.
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C
I've seen some of these ladies. Right. And.
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B
But because we don't do rucksacks based off body weight percentages.
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C
No, no.
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B
It's dry. Right. Like that's, that's going to be, it's gonna be part of the problem. A really fit female. I'm gonna make up these numbers, but they're not gonna be that far off. It's gonna be 120 pounds. Give her 130. That's. That's a, that's a, that's a. It's a style female. And you put, you put £80, £70 on £120. Now it's, now it's more than just there's. They're usually their studs and their studs within the CrossFit Games and the CrossFit Games has just absolutely difficult things that would, that would probably crush me that if I didn't train for it. But they're, they're based off their, their within the a body weight exercise or a percentage of. Of of their body weight. I think the problem they're going to have is that the rucksacks don't change to, to body weight. So they're going to have a problem with the extended, with the extended load that doesn't change to their lighter weight. And it will slowly. I do. I just, I believe it will slowly crush them.
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C
I mean, it's slowly. It would slowly crush.
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B
Just crush me.
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C
But that's what I'm. Exactly.
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B
And I was, and, but I was 200 pounds going through.
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C
I got you.
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B
That's 80 pounds is a lot. Like if, if you were 120 to 130 pounds, would you have made it through selection?
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C
I don't know. I don't know.
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B
I don't answer. Honesty.
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C
Because there, there's, I think there are guys that were lighter than, than you and I smaller that have made it. Thing is, as long as the standard is not lowered in any way, not altered in any way, if they can let them try. And if they can, then, then we'll know for sure.
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A
Brock Lesnar's daughter.
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C
Yeah. She's a monster.
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A
Is she.
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C
She does shot foot. Without lowering the standards.
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B
If you. And look at him. Hold on, hold on. That's a good example. But the, the, the problem is with females actually is the same problem with men. So she's a shot putter. She might be 150, 160 pounds. Stout for a woman. Stout for a woman. So now let's, let's, let's translate that over to men. Right? Like £240. It's you.
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C
That's a lot.
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B
That's right. 240. Yeah. We, we had some big guys in our selection and they weren't standing at the end. The problem is a female start waiting into that, start waiting into that weight class. They're now built for power and they're not built for endurance. So that, and actually kind of thank you for, for bringing up like that version. What I'm saying is, though. I know, but it doesn't matter mentally.
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C
Mentality comes into a lot of play, though. I mean, I didn't do does.
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B
And you're right, it does.
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C
That has to, that has to play a role. But the thing is, like, but when
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B
your body breaks down, you can't out will yourself through. You can, you can push your body to a very two, two extremes, but
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C
until, until a group of them try.
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B
Yeah.
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C
We're just guessing right now, right. Because we can't, you know, I mean, we can't make a sweeping. I, I try not to make an entire. Because I don't know every single female that would want to try.
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B
You don't have to. I'll make it for you.
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C
Okay. It's usually how it works. This is how it works. If I'm hesitant.
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B
Okay.
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C
If I'm hesitant, Brent is.
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B
But you know what I love about that? Like, that's the yin and yang of a good relationship.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Of a good friendship of. Of good teammates. That's. That's the end.
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C
He's like, Brent. I don't know.
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B
Well, that.
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C
That solves it sometimes.
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B
I was completely right in my mind. I'm completely right.
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C
I believe in what I'm doing.
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B
Exend it. My bad. My bad. Okay.
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C
I was.
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B
I thought. I really thought.
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C
8. Way off. We were way off.
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B
Yeah. I've been wrong with so much confidence before.
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C
There's no wind.
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B
Right.
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C
Left, 0.8.
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B
Okay.
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C
It's 200 meters, Brent.
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B
Left.8. What else we got, Drew?
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A
All right, man, it's getting late. 11 o' clock after 11, so let's super chats just let you know.
- [181:06]
B
All right.
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A
Shut it down. All right, we've got B. Jorn says. Have you guys trained le SWAT teams that really impressed you? CQB wise on cqb. Can any of them hang with some better white soft teams?
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C
I haven't worked, not with swat. Yeah, not with swat. Just with their snipers.
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B
That's a really good question. I don't know any other way to be. But honest, it is far and few between that I see a SWAT team that I believe could hang with Whiteside Soft.
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C
I think a lot of that goes with. I can see why you say that.
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B
Right.
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C
Because I think time on equipment or time on the training event.
- [181:55]
B
Exactly.
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C
Makes a huge difference.
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B
Right. And. Exactly. And if they got the same amount of time that white and same amount of time and resources that Whiteside softcott, they have the talent to do that. The problem with law enforcement is is this. And there's really no way around it. Most SWAT teams are so operational that they don't have time to train. So they're not like us on swat. You know, they're not like us in. In combat and. And Whiteside soft rotations or something. They don't have rotations, so they fit in training when they can. And they're really good at trying to make that happen.
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C
They're on the criminals timeline, right?
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B
That's right.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. So it's really. It's no fault of their own. It's just part of the system that they're in. But I. I thoroughly enjoyed going to train SWAT teams. I'm sure. Such good dudes. Such good dudes that make. They don't. They don't complain about it. Of Sorts. They do. We just kind of. We talked about that in the recorded episode. Good guys complain about everything.
- [182:54]
C
Yeah, you have.
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B
They're not happy.
- [182:55]
C
You know, they're happy.
- [182:56]
B
Exactly. But they're not, you know, they're not like, give us more training or. Or we quit. You know, they complain about it, but they make it happen with what they got and they still go out and they do the job within these parameters. And. And I have so much respect for SWAT teams.
- [183:09]
C
I agree.
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A
Let's see, we got. It's from the third coast cowboy. It's a long shot, but. Xavier, would you go over your target acquisition drill?
- [183:20]
C
Sure.
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B
Thank you. So that was also a request. I don't know if it's the same. I don't know if it's a different name. That was a request on Patreon. One of our Patreon members, Sean, requested that as well.
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C
So it's a. It's a drill that I created. The first time I saw anything like this was going through the Urban Sniper course as a Marine. And you start to drill with. At that time, it was first cold bore shot at 100, 100 meters. And then five rapid shots. And then we did like color dots and different events. Fast forward to when I was in Istc. Norwegians. Norwegian sniper. Good guy named Alex. He was very. He is very knowledgeable. He had a cold board drill, I think he called it or something like that. Same idea, you know, first shot, you do some physical activity, get your heart rate up, do some more shots.
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B
Okay.
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C
I came up with target acquisition drill. Same idea, 100, 100 meters, 18 rounds. But I wanted to implement tripod shooting. Running up to the target and doing. And then quickly setting up a tripod and something like that. Because given the opportunity, yes, we'd like to be in the prone. However, I didn't get into the prone that often. Yeah, Overseas.
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B
Right.
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C
It was on a ledge, rooftop, something like that.
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B
Right.
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C
So they need to be able to. I felt you needed to be able to get into these awkward positions quickly and engage targets efficiently. And efficiently. By efficiently, I mean around here is more efficient than around here or a shot on the shoulder.
- [184:57]
B
Right.
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C
So get into. Into a good shooting position quickly. Efficiently engage the targets using a tripod. Not the position that normally used to, which is laying in the prone. And that's the reason why I came up with it. And it's shooting one round on the countdown, immediate follow up within five seconds. And then we have running from. From about 25 meters back, running up to the position, setting up a Tripod and then shooting four targets within a set time limit. Then you staying on target on eyes on the targets and then at a random time I will call out two targets of opportunity and you engage those two.
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B
Okay.
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C
And then finally it's two shots from a tripod and four different targets. 18 rounds total.
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B
Yeah.
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C
But it's, it's a good check.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Of, of how comfortable you are with your weapon system and in those awkward shooting positions.
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B
I love that you do that and you incorporate a, a quickly deployed tripod.
- [186:05]
C
Yep.
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B
Let me tell you a story. It's not a cool story.
- [186:09]
C
No. Unfortunately it's even funnier than we're getting
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B
ready for a real world mission. Mission. I'm, I've been doing long gun work for a decent part of my career as a sniper on an oda, I, I knew what I was doing. Behind a long gun. We go to, you can go to any known distance range, unknown distance, range, snaps, movers. I thought I knew my job. And then this particular night I was asked to come off of a kilo as fast as possible with a tripod knowing that there was an assault team right behind me. And under night vision tripod. When I got off that helicopter, it's, it was all. It's not just. Well, I would say it's not just self induced stress, but it's more than that. The guys going to target expect me to cover them and cover them at a moment's notice.
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C
Yes.
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B
At the speed of real life.
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C
Yes.
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B
And I was messing with my gear and I couldn't get behind it the way I wanted to. I was super, super uncomfortable. The charge got, went off when I finally got into position, like I can take a shot and I felt like an absolute turd. So glad we do rehearsals because had that, had that been. And we talked about the, the stress of a tier one unit like you're expected to, to deploy anytime and be the best. And I was like, I have. Thankfully they don't know that because they don't know what I know. I have failed them and it, it rocked my world.
- [187:55]
C
But didn't happen again though.
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B
No, never happened again. No. I went back, got people that were smarter than me, more experienced with me, which, which, which is never hard. And I was like, don't sell yourself. And, and that never happened again. But it just, it just goes back to. But if you don't, if we train the way we always train, especially in the long distance community, flat happy on a shooting mat and we think we're good or you know, and your Job is. Is truly tactical. You better start training tactically because that's a whole nother world. The long distance complacency.
- [188:30]
C
Complacency can be deadly.
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B
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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A
Jared Rosen says, have you guys talked about the weirdness in the Charlie Kirk assassination? It being played over his security guess, blaming his security.
- [188:48]
B
Poor. I mean, poor security with. Without a doubt, that was a. You know, but let me walk it back for a second. You can blame insecurity all you want. And of course, if security is your job, it's your responsibility and we talk, you know, so you are responsible for that. But if I put a realistic lens over it, security is doing a job usually, especially when you're. When you're in a new location all the time, you normally do security over your most likely course of action. And that just at the time wasn't a most likely course of action, you know, so for me to be overly hard on a security for that, I don't give them a complete pass because it's their job. But I'm just saying. I understand. Does that make sense?
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C
Yes. Doing any kind of. Any kind of security is difficult anyways. It's difficult because you're on the back foot. You're reacting to someone who might be planning, might be meticulous, might know what they're doing, and that's dangerous. Has anybody interviewed their security or asked any questions like that? Yes. Oh, he did. The head of security on his.
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A
On his podcast.
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C
Oh, okay.
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B
Do you remember what he said?
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C
It was a long, long form podcast.
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A
I don't know.
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B
You don't watch it. You just know he doesn't watch it, but you don't remember it.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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C
Okay. That'd be interesting to watch, though.
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B
Yeah.
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C
I didn't know. I didn't know they did that.
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A
I mean, you know, right now it's hindsight 20 20. It's not like it happens every year.
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C
Right.
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A
Right now they're. They're going to have drones in the future again, right? I mean, you know, it's just a guy talking out of college. I mean, you know what? So they, they weren't on DEFCON 5. All right, Joe Ring says, sup, Brent? Did you see that? Brady P's finally back. Do we know who Brady P is?
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B
Brady P. Is finally back.
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A
Brady P. Is finally back again.
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B
I hate it when I don't know.
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A
Put it in the chat, boys. We'll. We'll figure that out.
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B
Sorry, Joe.
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A
Matthew Gilbert says, Brent, did you have a favorite fixed blade you used during your time in the unit? Same question to your guest. Thanks.
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B
Yes, I did. You want to guess what it was?
- [191:14]
C
Is it the Yarborough?
- [191:15]
B
Yeah. Yeah. Always have it on my kit, But I brought it every deployment.
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C
Yeah, I did, too.
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B
And sometimes I had it on my kid, and there it is right there. But if you're gonna call the hatchet a fixed blade, which technically, I believe it falls under. It's a very fixed blade.
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C
Yeah, it's fixed, all right.
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B
I definitely brought that with me. More than. More than I brought. Yeah, more than I brought my Yarber.
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C
I had the one that you. With the hole in it.
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B
Yeah, I have one up there, actually.
- [191:51]
C
That one. Something very or similar. Similar to that.
- [191:53]
B
Similar to that. Yeah. I believe that is a brotherhood blades.
- [191:57]
C
Oh, this is nice.
- [191:59]
B
Yeah. Oh, man. Brotherhood blades make some cool school cool stuff.
- [192:02]
C
This is really cool.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Or here's another just kind of funny, nice story. I hope you relate to it. I'm afraid you were smarter than me when I. When I showed up to dive school in Key west, my dive team did a good job of preparing me for the events, but apparently they either assumed I was smarter than I was or forgot this particular key part of it. You know when you first show up and there's your locker, and you're signing for all your gear? Yes. And so I'm looking for this. I'm looking for this, and I'm. I'm. They're like, hold it up. And. And I'm looking ahead of it, and I see dive tool. I'm like, that's such a generic term. What the heck is a dive tool? I don't know what a dive tool is, and I don't think I have one. I'm looking at everything I have, and I know most of what's in my locker. I. I don't know. Yeah. And. And before. Before it came up, I had to look. I was just trying. And like most. I try to figure things out before. And usually. And usually that saves me because I usually figure it out beforehand. Never figured it out. Turn the guy beside me. I was like, what's a dive tool? He's like, it's your. It's your knife. And I'm like, I knew that.
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C
Did he give you a look? He's like, get away from me.
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B
You're not gonna make it. Yeah. Did you. Well, you. You.
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C
I did not know it was a tool.
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B
Okay. Did you know? Did you know?
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C
No. No, I did not know.
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B
No.
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C
I always. I was like, why is this a. I mean, I get it. It's a tool.
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B
Yeah.
- [193:26]
C
But I would have called it something else. A knife.
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B
Which. Which, by the way, later on, I was on a particular unit that was kind of cutting down on the excessive purchases of knives. And so I made that comment. I was like, like, well, boys, we're not really looking for knives tools. And I was. I was on a water team. I was like, we're looking for dive tools.
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A
Yes.
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B
And so we put in the. They were putting the kibosh on knives for. For a bit. But we. But we slipped that one by. Like, how'd you get those? I was like, whoa. Oh, this. Oh, this is a dive tool.
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C
Are you kidding me? I'm not surprised. I am not surprised.
- [194:03]
B
This. This bit is called a dive tool. Yes. You get those. They eventually put the kibosh on knife tools.
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C
They caught on to, like.
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A
Wait, what?
- [194:12]
B
Yeah.
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A
Brady P. Was an original guest on the anti Hero podcast.
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B
Oh, man. I have to look. Okay. All right, I'll find that.
- [194:23]
A
Let's see here. This is a good question. Heading back from Hawaii. What's weirder? Wearing boxers underneath swimming trunks or not wearing them? I'll hang up and listen.
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C
Wearing boxers is definitely weirder. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
It's just too much going on.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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C
You gotta go commando under.
- [194:44]
B
You have to. You have to. Yeah. Okay.
- [194:48]
A
Drunk Christian says, will Elam's bow get broken this weekend? Who's Elam's bow?
- [194:58]
B
They don't normally get us this. This often, I guess. I hope not. I shouldn't say that, not knowing what Elam's bow is. Watch it. Tip turn. It's like you said. You hope not. Someone's gonna clip it. Okay. I don't know. Well, Elam's bone. There's a. A looky eyes in the Bible. Drew, I'm blaming you for not knowing that that was Bible Bible.
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A
My fault, boys.
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B
And that's on me, right? And that's. Yeah, that's. That's why you're here.
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A
Oh, it's. There's a Bible.
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C
There's.
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A
Bow get broken this weekend.
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C
I don't know that one.
- [195:32]
A
Iran. Oh, Ron's Persia.
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B
All right, next.
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A
It broken this weekend. Well, well, yeah. Anyway, Ayla Vanel says Ram Ranch for the outro song. 20 bucks. What's. Let's see. Fish on probation. What's up, boys? Late to the party. Gonna watch from beginning later. Tucker brothers both looking swole. Keep it up.
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B
Oh, thank you. Hp-trt.com use promo code tier1 20 off.
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A
And I do pizza.
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C
That's good. That's good.
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B
Keeps you big yeah.
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A
All right.
- [196:16]
B
Gotta be too something to do something. That's what I always said.
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A
Welder Faber back in says legit question LOL. Who win out of three? Drew Vers. Brent 1. Arm wrestling right arm. Number two readings number three. Killing alligators and ponds.
- [196:36]
B
I'm gonna give it to Drew in the arm wrestling. I.
- [196:39]
A
Why
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B
I have this weird thing. Fear that my shot arm is. Is going. Is going to break.
- [196:49]
C
Snap.
- [196:49]
B
It's going to snap if IARM wrestle that does it doesn't do that like if I curl or bench press. But you feel like. But even that's like let's say 35, 40, maybe 45 pounds. I mean but. But when you're arm wrestling someone you want pressure on.
- [197:05]
C
Yeah.
- [197:05]
B
It's got to be way more than that. And that's at the very top. I just have this irrational feel that's not a rational. That my arm's going to break.
- [197:12]
C
I don't think so.
- [197:13]
B
So I. I give that one to Drew.
- [197:16]
A
Nope. It's competition. He's all in 100. That's how it works. Don't. Don't let him fool you. If it's competition and it comes to the really happening. I'm breaking this.
- [197:26]
B
He doesn't care about his arm and reading. In fact, I'm still gonna give the. Drew as much as he only screws up things because they're. They're military related. So it makes it look like I'm. I'm better at it. But it's all the military acronyms. Screw them up. I'll at least get one. Killing alligators and ponds. It's. It's a shooting event. I got a.
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A
That's it.
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B
All right.
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A
BR gets two out of three X.
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B
Carry the show for a second.
- [197:50]
C
All right, brother. What's the next one?
- [197:52]
A
Oh, what's the next one? We don't. We don't have a next one. But let's see what we can do is read these. These things here. What do we got here? Let's see.
- [198:05]
C
See.
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A
Okay. Here about fall of Israel. I mean Israel's. Israel's not going to fall until the midpoint of tribulation. So they're. They're here to stay until then. Here we go. Wiley Coyote. $500. This man, this guy, he is just our number one backer of the podcast. He's just very gracious man with the blessings God has given him. Better late than never. What's up, fellas? Team America F. Yeah. Megadeth. Wake up dead for the outro, man. Wiley Coyote got in there for mega death. Wake Up Dead. And five. Five C notes.
- [198:58]
B
Wow. We come in strong at the end and just take everyone else's chance and hopes and dreams away from them. It is capitalism.
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A
It's a free market, people.
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B
All right. Wake up dead. Bye.
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C
No, I don't have a Rolex. It's not a Rolex.
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B
Wake Up Dead by Megadeth.
- [199:20]
C
Yeah, I don't know about you. Oh, smooth. Hold on a second. Smooth showing up to dive school.
- [199:30]
A
T Bone's already calling it get off my Bluetooth. That's how many times that's happened. Oh, man. Eating beavers. He likes to. He's been asking this all night. Okay, X, Why do your socks match the carpet?
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C
Oh, because I'm trying to blend in Again.
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B
Again.
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I can't help but camouflage myself. This is what it is.
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He is the constant chameleon.
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A
Do. Do you think that beavers. Do you think they taste like chicken or. Or pork?
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I don't know why that's a one or the other. Duck.
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A
Duck. You know what tastes like duck? That is a much better one.
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C
Next. Well, depends on the seasoning. Duck breast.
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What season are you using? Montreal Steak Seasoning. Every time. Doesn't matter what it is.
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B
It is. That. That is. That is the best. That is. That is my go to. I love Montreal Steak Seasoning. It. It is. Here's what I have for Wake up the Dead. It's Lama, God, and Megadeth, kind of featuring David Mustaine. So I. I hope that's. I hope that's what you wanted, because it's. It's what you're getting. Here's my favorite part of the show, where we listen to good music and we read the rest of the comments.
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Oh, sorry.
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B
All right, serious question. Do Green Berets eat snakes as a tradition? I never did, but. You never. Not even during Sears?
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C
No, man.
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B
Okay.
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C
No, I never did.
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B
I would say they do, as. Generally speaking, if you're in a green brace long enough, you'll go overseas, you'll do something to. To eat a snake. But it's not mandatory by.
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C
No, no, no. It's not mandatory. You know.
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B
Yeah, I know X is a gamer, but. What, was he allowed to be in your rock band? Can we get a Rock Band episode?
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C
I might try that.
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B
That was a little bit before exit time. I'd be interested in my first otc.
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A
Okay.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Let me see here. Eating beavers. Y' all are the best. Thank you very much. Of course. Drew, don't forget to plug Truth in the dark, which he already Has. We'll do it again. Eddie. Eddie Clement. X was a great leader and a decent swimmer.
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C
Oh, Eddie Clement.
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B
There you go.
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C
He was. He was one of my echoes in Afghanistan.
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B
He's.
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C
He's also from the uk.
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B
Oh, really? That's awesome.
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C
That dude is a fish. My man can swim. He's amazing.
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B
Here's a question in the chat from Mark S. Retired. What's your edc?
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C
I don't have one in.
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B
In Portugal. But if I would. If you're home or you could. What was your. What would be your edc? A sick.
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C
I would have a sick. I. I have a current one now. But it's not. Actually. It's not with me in Portugal.
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B
You haven't offended me until now.
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C
Okay. Sorry. That's the only one that I had.
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B
You've only put a million rounds through a Glock. Agreed.
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C
But this is. You see my rogue knuckle here?
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B
Yeah.
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C
I. I need a different weapon system because every time the slide hit my knuckle.
- [203:11]
B
Yep.
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C
And that was. That was always a problem.
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B
I still have a scar right here on the fatty part.
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C
Exactly.
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B
Right there.
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Of the.
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C
Of.
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Of the slide because of how I hold it.
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C
So that's why I can't do Glocks. I needed that specific.
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B
Was that a little duck? Okay. You get a pass. Okay.
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A
Okay.
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B
And you know what's funny? It's. It's going to be cheesy here for a second, but we're talking about, you know, if people just talk, they. They. They'd find their differences apart.
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C
Yeah.
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B
You. Or, you know, find their differences not so different after all. Adamant about Glock. I always kind of say it in jest, but it surprised me. But all I had to do was ask you about. About it. And then. Then you tell me why the reason. Right. Never mind. Yeah.
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C
Because it is literally.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Scarring me.
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B
I know why you do that. I know. I. No one came here to. To get preached at.
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C
But.
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B
But I'm just. Someone's got to say it. Someone's got to stand up. Someone has to say it. I'll just reiterate it one more time. I'm so. I'm so tired of being divided as a country. Country. We're the best country in the world. If we don't start coming together over something, we will not maintain our. Our greatness. That. That is a fact.
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C
100.
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B
What else we got? Delta dad wants to see you at shot show next year. All right. I screwed up. I screwed up. I missed chocho this year. I did kind of regret Read it when it was done. And that I didn't go, I would love to meet your dad. His dad was a retired B squadron guy. Nice. Oh, man, that's a. What's the best squadron in the unit? I can't talk about the units and squadrons. I'm like, hey, that's a. That's a bad question.
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C
You know, that's an amazing question.
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B
That. That's. That's an amazing question, but I can't answer it. I know. Let's see here. Adamant about Glock. So was Bob Keller until he shot a staccato. All right. Oh, I'm gonna give you that. Not. I gotta do this. I have one right there. And I do. I. I love shooting that thing. I can't talk. I can't talk about guns too much. YouTube will take it right off on. Live online for sure.
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C
Oh, wow. Yeah.
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B
Ask us how we know.
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C
Okay.
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B
One of the reasons I don't. I don't push them as much. They're a great gun. My gosh, they're a great gun. But when we're talking about eight edc and for. And for your average person, you don't have to go spend a thousand, fifteen hundred, two thousand, twenty, three hundred bucks on. On some of these guns that. That are great guns. You. You can spend 500 bucks on the. On the one that starts with the G. And when you get comfortable with that, you can throw a few mods on it, and it'll be dang near as good as. As. As any other gun and reliable as. As any gun in the world.
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C
It is reliable.
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B
So I really think about that as a more, like, common answer for everyone. But, yeah, I do. I do love those guns. Like, there's. There's not a whole lot to do to them. Throw a red dot on them and go. They are. They're smooth, smooth guns. Yeah. Three GS for them, though.
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C
Well, I mean, in fact, that much. It better make me coffee as well or something.
- [206:34]
B
Yeah, that one right there. Not a rich man. Bo gave me that one. Joshua there. Rednecks with paychecks. Bo gifted me that one, and that's why I have it. And that's.
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A
And he did it in the great state of Texas.
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B
How dare.
- [206:52]
C
That's very cool.
- [206:53]
B
All right, guys, that is our show. X, I can't thank you enough for flying all the way from Portugal. It's been a long day for you. I know. Between, you know, recent travels and then doing a recording and then coming out and staying here for the live. I'm telling You. I. Trust me, I, I. There's no way you enjoyed it as. As much as I did.
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C
I didn't. I wasn't sure how it was gonna go because I was a bit anxious because I've never been, you know, on anything like that, but it went by a lot faster than I thought it would, and I had a really good time, man. I appreciate it.
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B
We were slotted from 8 to 10, 11:30, and there's still, you know, almost 500 people watching, so it was.
- [207:35]
C
Well, I appreciate it was great.
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B
To the couch magnet with lion arms. Tell them, Tell them where to find you.
- [207:43]
C
LionArmsUSA.com and lion underscore arms on Instagram.
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B
He is our constant there as the couch guy.
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A
Coming soon to Portugal.
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C
Hats and T shirts as well.
- [207:55]
B
Man, as much of a hard time as I give them, Magnus is as. As good as a guy as they come. And I love that you're here to support us every Thursday night. David, thank you so much again. You also made the long trip overseas, but a little bit different. X made it just for us. You. You fit us into your schedule, but you're a Patreon member. You've been following us. You support us. You made time to come out here. I hope you enjoyed the live. Yeah, I know you don't get to catch a lot of lives because of the, because of the time difference, but you actually got. Yeah, you got to catch a live the best way in real time on the couch right here. Thank you so much. And we, I, we didn't get a chance to talk a whole lot about the uk which I was thinking about doing, but because of the freedom of speech problems that you guys are having, that. I don't, I don't say that with any joy or, or in jest. We, we. We hate it. It's. I, I, I hope that there are better days for you guys ahead. You guys deserve it.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Thank you, America.
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A
Another country that needs unity.
- [208:55]
B
Yeah, Another country that needs unity. We're big fans of, of you guys. Drew, we never asked, how'd the poll end up?
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A
Oh, it's. Let me see here.
- [209:06]
B
Hold on.
- [209:07]
C
I know what I'm hoping for.
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A
Oh, it's like 65, 37, something like that.
- [209:13]
C
Okay.
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B
To what, what side?
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A
Oh, my bad. They're all optimistic.
- [209:18]
C
Good.
- [209:18]
B
Are they?
- [209:19]
A
They're all optimistic.
- [209:20]
B
I love that. Drew.
- [209:23]
A
I think it's because they all believe that a civil war would create unity.
- [209:27]
B
Okay.
- [209:28]
A
But I don't know.
- [209:29]
B
All right. Drew's.
- [209:31]
A
It's just an assumption.
- [209:32]
B
That's okay. Yeah, that's an assumption. That's an opinion.
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A
My bad.
- [209:35]
B
That's okay, Drew. Where. Where can they find you if they want more of you?
- [209:38]
A
Oh, man. You guys got a truth in the dark for all things Bible. Right now we're proving why the Bible is from God. And it's not just a book written by men. It has supernatural information. If you don't know that, it's because you haven't seen my podcast. Share it to people who need truth in this dark world. Share it all over social media. Also, go to FRCC Shop. We are giving away the mini lighter. It's very cool. I love it. It's very sleek, so it fits in your pocket. We're giving it away free. When you buy two 4 packs of FRCC cigars, go to FRCC Shop. This is what the mini lighter looks like right there. Very, very slim.
- [210:19]
B
Love it. All right, X, if someone wants to continue to pick your brain about long distance stuff and pay you for it because you deserve it, where do they find you?
- [210:30]
C
Thank you. So it's greystone-tcp.com or you can email me at lendoff.x greystone-tcp.com.
- [210:40]
B
all right, you're the guest. You're the guest. You get the last word. What do you want to say?
- [210:48]
C
I'm just grateful that, that you invited me on to this because I remember when you first texted, he's like, x, you have a choice. You can come now, you can come later, but you cannot say no. That's, that's the only people options. And I appreciate that. I do. I appreciate that. This is, this is, I had a, I had a really good time and I did not realize how far, how, how long it would go.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Or how fast it seemed to go. So I, I, I appreciate it, man. Thank you.
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B
All right, thank you. We'll, we'll see you guys first Thursday night of next month. And we will announce the winner of that bad boy. See you guys.