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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Tier 1 podcast live. That's right. It is Thursday night and it's for the Patriots. Here in the team room with us, we have tier one problem solver Justin Klon. You may recognize him from a former recording that we did together.
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I'm back.
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He's back.
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Yeah.
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And we just got back from soft week. We got a lot of updates to talk about soft week, all the future stuff coming out. Really looking forward to that. On the couch, as always. We have Magnet from Lion, AR and making it all happen behind the computers, Drew Tucker.
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Hey, guys. Good to see everybody.
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One and only. Welcome back to the show. Let's go. All right, there's something I have to start this show out for, for transparency and. And integrity reasons. And it's. I do consider this not just a. A podcast. You guys have proven to be a family and a team. I've called this place the team room. And this is. This is what a. This is what a close.
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Neat.
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A close knit team does. You guys may know of Devin, she is the probably better known as the most savage host ever of the Between Two Guns podcast. And. And my girlfriend, but we are no longer together. But that's. That. That's personal stuff. And it seems like it. You know, what is. Why. Why would you bring that up? Because the fact is, I come out, I come on here every week and I preach to everyone and I say, hey, you know, got to be a tier one guy in every aspect of your life. And I list all the aspects. And the truth is, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't do myself what I tell you guys to do every week. I wasn't a tier one boyfriend. I gave 95%. Whatever percent you want to give it. I tell you what, I didn't give it. And that was 100%. And that is. That is what is required to be tier one at anything you do. So, you know, I tell you guys that for accountability for myself, I'm human. I don't always meet the standard, my own standards. And for. And really for a. Another reason that, Sorry, that I bring this up is. I tell people all the time, I say, hey, it's not that bad things happen to you. I say, it's how you handle them. And I didn't. I didn't handle it the. The right way. And again, that just comes with transparency and accountability. And what my dad always told me was this. He goes, it doesn't matter what you did yesterday. It only matters what you did today. What you do today and what you're going to do tomorrow, but there's nothing you can do about that. And so I've, you know, I've chosen to. I have to let it go and I have to move forward and I have to be a better man, and I have to be a tier one person in all aspect of my life. So I wanted to get out that. Out there. I will try not to bum out the, the whole episode over it. And there's, there's no, there's no ulterior motive to this. She's not even watching the show. This is, this is, this is for you guys. And honestly, it's. It's for me. It's accountability for me to be better. So if you're wondering why I'm not drinking tonight, I also don't want anyone to think that that's something else I don't do, which is tell people not to. To handle your problems with alcohol. I'm gonna handle it the, the right way, and that's by putting my faith in God and doing what needs to be done. So. Good word with that. Let's. Let's get on with the show.
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Let's do it.
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Good word, Bryant.
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And can I just add.
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Sure.
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As a guest and, you know, a room full of guys who've made a lot of mistakes and have had broken hearts and broken hearts unintentionally and, you know, done things we're not proud of in a lot of environments to dwell on it. But, you know, you've set a standard. I would say that I respect that you. When something's not right, when there's something that needs to be accounted for, you're taking it. You're setting that example. It isn't about anyone else. It isn't about the topic. It isn't about the, you know, what the subject is. It's about, okay, something's not right, and I need to make it right by addressing it and being open about it and being accessible. If someone wants to question me, it's out there because you have brought attention to a lot of people out there that have right. Lacked accountability or lacked the even taking. The vulnerability to put themselves out there.
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I don't want anyone to go, oh, no, is there, is there something coming out? More seriousness? What happened? No, it's, it's, it, it's. It's not that.
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Yeah, it's.
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Again, it's just I didn't meet the standard that I tell you guys to meet, and, and I, and I didn't meet it myself, so let's let's move on with a. I mean, let's not get crazy. I'm still going to smoke a cigar, you know, with a, with a cigar and a Coke Zero.
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Well, a cigar never made you make a bad decision.
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That's true.
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That just, that's safe.
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I hope not, because the cigars made me make bad decisions. I would have a very different life. I tell you that. I have up my cigar count to about 10 a day, but I know I gotta, I gotta, I, I gotta weed that back.
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Yeah. We'll have to rename the podcast around Tear in the Middle. Middle tier podcast.
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Let's get to it. Soft Week. Soft Week is, is always crazy to see the innovation out there, to see what's, what's coming next. This year's soft week was unlike any other as far as the amount of technology. There's always technology there, but AI dominated the space, generally speaking, big time. Drones is good to see a lot of American drone companies. It was really cool to see, you know, all the, the UAV or the, the drone boats, maritime vehicles that are out there, what they're capable of. It almost seems like for once when it comes to that, we're not behind or we're not reacting to something. It's like we want to be a leader and ahead of the curve on that.
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Yeah, a lot of innovation and I mean, it's been a quantum leap in that space.
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Yeah.
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We were talking earlier, you were saying, you were talking about Ukraine, the Russia Ukraine situation and how what we're seeing at Soft Week right now probably would not be as prolific as it is if that conflict hadn't arisen and then played out the way it did because it's accelerated beyond imagination. Like everything in technology and in the AI space is. It just keeps accelerating. Moore's Law used to be that technology rule of things accelerated X amount and Moore's Law has become a kind of an archaic measure.
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Yeah, I, I still stand that. I don't believe our intervention. So in a weird way, our intervention into Ukraine caused it to, to extend. And the extension of that war is where a lot of this drone advancements came from. It wasn't at the very beginning, you know know, it was. It really accelerated out of necessity in that war.
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Yeah.
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I still think we could have got the same results by not spending billions of American taxpayer dollars in a Europe problem. I still think we should have pushed Europe to handle European problems and other nations would have stepped up, but they didn't have to because. Because Uncle Sugar did. So I do Hate that aspect of it. But in the day, there, there's a silver lining to everything and there, there, there are good things that, that came from that. And, and I, I know a loss of life is, is always tragic, but as an American, I'm just gonna tell you American blood is more precious than, than any other nation's blood to me. Yeah. I'll just tell you that. And, and we didn't have to spill it this time to, to learn those lessons. And so that, that is a good thing. The other thing I don't. So those are the, those are things I like about, about Soft Week. The, the other one. There's two other things. One, man, I probably couldn't go 20 or 30ft without running. Someone else that I had worked with someone else I had seen.
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Huge connection, Huge connection.
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We got several more guests coming on, you know, you know that, that we met there. So it's a target rich environment for, for quality guests. That's, that's a good thing. The. Excuse me. There it is. The. Yeah, it's alive. I can't even edit it out the real time. I'll tell you what's just humbling, super humbling. The amount of people that came up to me at Soft Week and just said just real quick like hey man, love your podcast. Like that is, that was, that was cool. It's crazy. I mean obviously it's softweak. The, the, those are our people. But would you just look at the, the analytics and the data at the end of, at the end of the day when on the business side, they're numbers, you know, but you forget until you go places like that, you know, 100,000 views is that. It's a hundred thousand people.
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Yeah, those people, you know, time energy, right?
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And they watch, they'll. And they'll say thank you for, you know, for your message. Thank you for, you know, the, the stories that, that you guys put out. Thanks. Thanks for the way you do it. And I tell you that part of that is the reason I opened the show the way I did because so many guys thank me for in integrity. And then again I said, I said I wasn't going to. It just, it just bleeds together and it's life, man.
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Bring.
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Forced me to say, you know, hey, I, I have to, I have to. I, I never want to be a fraud. I felt a little fraudish not living up to my own standards. And so that's, and that's, that's the only way I know how to do it is to, is, is, is to Not. Is to not shy away from it. So the third thing I love about. Not. I shouldn't say I love about it that I noticed about Soft Week is this. It's such a huge show. I mean, it's. You think it's. You've been to Shot Show?
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Yep. Oh, yeah.
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It's probably just as big as Shot Show. You think?
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It seemed like it. I was gonna. That's what I was gonna ask you about comparisons for. From your perspective.
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Yeah. It's got to be just as big as Shot Show. And Shot show is a circus. You know, that place was a circus too.
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Yeah. But it's a different kind of circus. But.
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That's.
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Right.
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Well, yeah, the. It's a different type of circus because Shot show is for. Is for the. Is for private industry, essentially. It's for civilians and consumers. Consumers.
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And it's shot, meaning bullets, bows.
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Right. And they'll have technology there.
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Blood sport.
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But what. What I want to get at is Soft Week is. Is for the boys. It's for the boys going to war. And so if I see something stupid at. At Shot Show, I don't care if you want to buy it, it's your money.
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Yeah.
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If I see a company that has government contracts having a product that I don't believe is good for the boys. The boys never asked for it. It's not. It's. It's. It's not aligned with a certain mission set and it looks like it makes you want to.
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Who.
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Who asked for this?
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Right.
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You know, how did you get a contract? And it. I'm not. Everyone knows. I'm not a conspiracy theory guy. But it doubles down on the fact that I do believe there are a massive amount of contracts that are getting signed because either someone is getting out and wants to. And wants to work with that company and give them a contract because that's going to be their next civilian job when they retire or just out of relationships or even worse, someone in headquarters thinking they know what the boys want is like, this is what the boys want. I. I know it's best and not. And not getting input from the ground up. And that disgust me. And there, there was. There's just too much there, to be honest with you.
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Yeah. As an end user, you see that through your filter and you can't unsee it because you're the one getting sent to bring. Bring that to the target, more or less. But I think part of that reality is when you have these AI models and you have so many large language models, the clods, the Gro the. You know, then they're in the Pentagon. So everybody at their desk who's got time is like, hey, what would be the best tool set to attack this or to do that or to defend this? And then the AI is mapping the Internet. It's using sci fi, it's using shows, it's using comic books.
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Who are they friends with?
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Yeah, exactly. You know, all the patterns. And then it's spitting out these outcomes. And then you have a bunch of people in a room who've never been doing the job and they're going, this makes sense to me. It's kind of like that one movie we saw where they did the thing.
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Yeah.
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And. But if they're not bringing in somebody that's a kinetic asset that, yeah. Understands the risks, understands, you know, can see over the horizon, is a planner, because you have that autonomy to plan the mission that you're going to go and deliver on.
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Yeah.
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Then they're missing a whole component to what's real and what's not.
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And I'm always a little bit torn about this because I. Yeah, I'm a capitalist at heart. I think if you, if you provide a, you know, a service, you should get paid for them. I've never mad about someone that's successful, but once you start dealing in the government world, when, when I see certain companies renting out massive yachts to go, you know, to go on a cruise, I'm like, how are you gouging, you know, the, the tax. Are you gouging the taxpayer? Yeah. For a lavish lifestyle. And, and again, I don't, I don't know how to correct that. I don't know what's. What's right.
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Can.
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You can't.
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You saw it. It's not. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, that's a. It's. It's a little bit of a struggle to deal with because it's. Hey, if you're a large company that's doing hundreds of millions of dollars, of course you half profit and you can spend on whatever you want.
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Yeah.
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But they take those people out in the yacht. Just get more of that juice.
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Right. Well, you're bringing, you're bringing up a point that I.
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Should a buyer be able to go on a yacht and be. And be wind and be dined? You know, I. There's a. There's just a lot of. I want to even want to say questionable. Well, maybe, but it borders. It starts to border on. On unquestionable. And, and I think, I think Elon left a little early with Doge, because I think. I think there's a lot more to un. To uncover. But anyway, it's the same thing with
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the Shot show parties, though.
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But again, I don't care about that because that's. That's for civilian use for the most part. Of course, some of those gun companies have government contracts and. And that just is. That just is what it is. But at the end of the day,
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that Shot show stuff pays for them to be able to do the government contract. So.
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Right. That would not. Not. Not all. Not. I. I would say all of them.
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I would say it's shot. There's less R and D. Right. Just organizations there doing pure research to develop something to get adopted. Yeah.
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It's already came to the right where
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shot has more retailers that are innovating, so they're using profits. They're still maybe trying to get research dollars to your point. But what I realized to this conversation at Soft Week is as I'm talking to guys and they're like, we're going after CBers, SBIRs, and you know, phase one, phase two, they're getting government. They're trying to win government awards. The government puts out a request, you know, for an action, RFPs, and then somebody submits here we got something. So then they get that government money. But what's the government money? It's not from a profit center.
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Yeah.
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It's from taxpayers.
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Y.
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So then those small companies are taking that taxpayer dollar and they're supposed to be spending it diligently with the research. So that does happen. But it's some of these larger organizations where money gets.
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That's right. You could always make numbers say whatever you want them to say. You really can. I think, think what I'm trying to say between Shot show and. And Soft Week is this. If you took out every company that had an affiliation with the government with contracts or, or the majority of their purchases is through contracts, you would still have a shot Show. There would still be plenty of vendors there. If you took that out of Soft Week, I don't know if there'd be a single vendor, you know, over at softweek.
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So there'd be Samsung up there.
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You know, I bet they have a government contract too, probably.
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Right,
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let's. Right, yeah, let's. Let's. Let's get away from the nerd talk a little bit and bring up the. In fact, let's. Let's go to Super Chats real quick and see if anyone Super Chats wants to. Wants to discuss Soft Week.
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All right, boys. Coalition as hat says, during peacetime, is it common to retire from or even enter and exit Delta without seeing any combat?
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No. Be very. Be very rare.
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And then he's back in again and says, did the A T. Did the A team boys let you come along for the briefs and the walk up?
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Yes, they did. Yes, they did. It was awesome. I have so much respect for those guys.
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Just another 11B says posting on behalf of. the real Justin G. Rob O was the only naval SEAL who could clear a room and a hole full of glory in the same deployment.
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Okay. All right.
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The Prussian.
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Hey, what's up?
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Thank you, man. Thank you for the love. Well, didn't get the jail goon job, but I did just apply for a security job that looks like I can easily pick up. It's with a local company called 3M. You probably haven't heard of them.
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I've never heard of. Of 3M. You know, we were just talking about the Prussian earlier and. And he just gave us an update about. Man, we're. We're praying for you and we are pulling for you, brother. Yeah, bud.
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Let's see. Coalition. As hat back in says, what's up with the Mike Glover and the way he talks about being in the unit? Is it a slight touch of the tks or the. Or just convenient wordplay?
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The.
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I like the way you put that.
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No, they are not on. On the same level. I mean, he. When he says I was at the unit, he was. He was a support guy at the unit. So you can say you were at the unit all day long. Of course there's always context of that and I don't. I don't see a lot of. Of Mike's stuff, but occasionally we'll still talk. I don't think I've ever again. I haven't seen it all. I know if you could, you could talk in a way that it sounds like you're an operator, but you. You never said you are and you just. So I. I get that, but I don't if. If it's.
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Mike did a lot of agency stuff as well. And with. And with the SIF as well.
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Correct. But none of those would be called the unit. Yeah, there's only one unit. So just as long as he just says the unit never infers that he was an operator, then. Then he's. Then he's being. He's being above board.
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K. Diggs says respect for being the man you inspire us to be. So.
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Well, I'm. I'm trying.
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We all are. Ryan H Says, awesome News was selected to receive a mortgage free home from Building Homes for Heroes in Riverview, Florida. Such a great organization. Huge shout out to them. That is, that's awesome, man.
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Oh, heck yeah.
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Mortgage free home, man.
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You want to talk?
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Wow.
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If you have a mortgage free home, like you really don't need a whole lot of income to, you know, to be comfortable. I mean that's such a burden.
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You're a free man. Yeah, you're just, you're just a free man.
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And with the, and with the new like housing tax exemption is long as you're homestead that Florida, you, you don't have to worry. Of course if he's injured enough to get a, a, a home free, a building homes, a mortgage free home. But he's 100% disabled anyway. He's not paying tax. Yeah, he's not paying property taxes anyway. But man, that is awesome. That is awesome.
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That is great news, man. Coalition as hat holding up the super chats tonight says oh, Brent had a breakup. Wah. Just kidding, brother. We all been there. And heavy respect on the transparency.
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Thank you.
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And then Percy, man, he just. There it is Coke Zero money right there for the night tonight.
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It is Coke Zero money.
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Love it, man. Thank you guys for the love. Appreciate it.
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All right, let's, let's go to some, some lighter things. Let's go to, let's go to Instagram. I love these videos by the way. That's such a random thing for me
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to love, but I do Addict is going through withdrawal. Their skin will typically become covered in goosebumps and resemble that of a plucked turkey. Thus the saying quitting cold Turkey. In the 17th century, husbands were allowed to punish their wives using sticks. The stick was not wider than their thumb.
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I didn't know the cold turkey one.
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The rule of thumb. When jaybirds would fly in from the forest, they would become disoriented in high traffic areas, thus leaving them confused and have erratic behavior. And this is what gave us the term gay jaywalking. Did not know that Parisian nobles would wear their hair up in elaborate updos. So when the day was over and they were ready to relax, it was time to let your hair down. In horse racing, when a horse was so far ahead of the rest of them, the jockey would sit back, relax, and put his hands down while crossing the finish line. This is how he won hands down. During World War II, pilots would have nine yards of ammunition and they would use that entire chain on one target. It was known as giving it the whole nine yards. In the Middle Ages, nobles were Known for having pale skin. And because people with pale skin can see the veins in your neck easier, they were known as blue bloods.
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Didn't know that farmers who sold pigs
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would usually wrap them in bags when taking them to market. Sometimes tricksters would put cats in the bag instead of pigs. When the fraud was uncovered, it's because someone let the cat out of the bag. In late 19th century gramophones did not have volume knobs. So people would roll up socks and put them in the horn. Thus coining the term put a sock.
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I didn't know that.
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When an addict is going through.
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After watching that video. You know what's always bugged me? The whole nine yards. And because I didn't know the reference. Yeah, I, I always want the football reference. And I was like, what a first down's 10 yards short. Yeah, sweet. So you didn't go the whole 10 yards. So it's got to be something else. I've actually wondered that for a long time. That's where now I hope everything she said is true.
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Yeah, right. Yeah, of course we didn't.
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I don't have time to fact check every one of those things. But I love finding out the, the origin of, of sayings like that. Because we say it all the time and. Right. Yeah, you say it like you know what you're talking about. Because it's just. Yeah, it's just common usage. But if you ever got your whole
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life, you heard your whole life don't know the source.
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Right.
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Which makes you feel dumb. If someone would ever ask you, oh, you just said that. What does that mean? I don't know what it means. Why are you saying things you don't know what it means?
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Because my grandpa always said.
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And I trust him.
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That's right.
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If he it, I'll believe it.
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I mean I would have put money that hands down would have been like a card playing reference or something like that.
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Exactly.
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Yeah. I've actually that's. I've heard that several times. Doesn't mean it's true.
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Just because.
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But that's the, the jockey thing. Yeah, I've heard it several times.
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So like going all in or whatever.
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All in. Like that. That would be. That would be a card turn. Gotta be. Yeah, for sure.
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Poker usually.
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So you find out it's a jockey.
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Yeah.
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Or it's a porn reference or something.
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Oh, gosh.
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Sorry. But that's what I mean. Of sorts like that you, you better know what you're saying because if you don't know what it's really. You know an origin story from then you, you might want to watch out cuz. Cuz someone does.
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Or you take your favorite national statement and you go to another country and you say the thing that's common and they're completely offended because you're like, what
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did you just say? Exactly. Yeah. If you guys got any comments about some, some weird things that you don't know the meaning of it, let us know. Drew will look them up and if, and if you do know some fun facts about, about some sayings, sit them on a super chat and enlighten us.
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So a couple weeks ago I was hanging out with Lord David and he was telling me that in, in the uk, if you do this, that's offensive. This is okay. Oh, but don't be doing this. That's like giving somebody the middle finger.
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Did not know that. Yeah, and I spent some time over there, but then again, I don't, I don't, I don't do that.
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Yeah, this one's usually safe.
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That one's pretty safe. Yeah, I don't, I've never really gotten that. The like throwing up. I'm not talking about gang signs, but you know, like the hand signals and photos. It never ages well. It's never cool to throw any sort of hand signs. Now. I point, I do. I will do this. If anyone like it. Soft week. If someone a photo with me, I do. I always point at them to really just as a little bit of a humble thing to be like, hey, like,
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this is the man.
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Yeah, this is the man. Like it's, it's. But it's never the right hand signals. Just don't do them. Yeah, don't do, don't even. That one. Don't. Unless you're on a surfboard, I'll give you that. If you're on a surfboard, I'm going to give you that one. But there's very few circumstances you need to be throwing out any.
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Hey, bring it. Bring the aloha wherever you go.
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Once it's on the Internet, that's it.
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Right, Right. Yeah. Yeah. I assure you it will not age well. You'll look back at that photo and
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go, there it is. That's everybody right there.
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Let's see. I don't know if it's going to come right back to it or if it's going to come back into. I have to re. I'm probably guessing we have to rejoin.
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Well, it doesn't say in it. It's saying in stream as an option. So that means we're still streaming There we go.
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We're back. We're back. So I'll be able to edit that, man. I hope. You guys only lost a little bit of people, but we'll hopefully get them back. All right, where were we? Drew, Remember. Does anyone remember possibly doing. We.
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We were.
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Sure.
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Let's talking about different things.
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Oh, balls of the wall. You know what? And of course I didn't know what it meant, but it didn't seem like it was what. It doesn't seem like a. Necessarily a good thing. Right.
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Usually it's. Usually it's going all out.
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Right. But where'd the balls come from? Right. What balls are you thinking about when. When they say balls of the wall. Here's where it's from. And aviation. There is a ball on top of the stick for acceleration. And so if you want to go all out and go fast, you take the ball of the acceleration and you push it to the firewall. Hence balls to the wall.
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Yeah. If you got two engines, you got two. You got two balls on this. Yeah, There you go.
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There you go. That one. That one was a. That one was a good one.
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Makes perfect sense.
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Absolutely. All right, let's go to another video and. And real quick before we do that. As a reminder, if you guys got any questions for Justin and I'll. I'll forget half of them. The man's worked for Nike and now I'm forgetting his name off the top of my head. Who, Who, Who?
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DARPA Agency.
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Who's. Who was the creator of the Jordan shoe of Tinker. Tinker.
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We should get Tinker on the show.
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Absolutely. Worked with Tinker. I worked with Nike. Do you end up working with Reebok?
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No.
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No. Okay. That's. That I remember that part of the story. I don't know if you actually ended up getting that job. Lululemon, Harvard, darpa. We didn't get into this story, but besides Kanye, you worked with some.
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Some other stars, athletes mostly. Paltrow.
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That's right. Gwyneth Paltrow. That we didn't. We didn't get into. It had been a four hour, six hour episode to go through everything you've done. But the. The man has worked with some of the best and that, that is why he is here. And he has some funny stories for. For all of them. Pass that one, Drew. This is another. This one kills me right here. Talking about. I, I put this in there because it kind of connects from. I didn't know what certain sayings came from. And now I look at this drawing and then. And now, apparently, I've known this the whole time, but I've. But I've. But I've bought it at face value, like a. Did you know? That's it.
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Oh, we all draw butterflies completely wrong. It's really common to see a butterfly decoration or a butterfly tattoo that looks like this, but that shape is. Is all wrong. In the wild, you'll notice that on nearly every species of butterfly, the head is out front, and then the wings either stick out perpendicularly or on the body. But the way we typically draw butterflies on stickers and murals has the wings pulled way up and out past the head in a perfectly symmetrical icon. Whereas again, in nature, that butterfly is probably going to look like this. This overly spread look comes from bug collecting, where when people preserve butterflies, they stretch out the wings to display all the colors at as big of size as possible. But that shape only exists on pinned butterflies. So it's interesting that butterflies are often used as symbols of metamorphosis and new life. But we keep drawing them in a posture that accidentally represents the opposite of that.
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That's a sticker. Yeah, make. Make that. I watched that and I was like, you got to be kidding me. Every time I think of a butterfly, I'm thinking of a dead butterfly. And, like, in my imagination and I've seen butterflies and I've never connected it. No, it's.
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So they're all. They're all memorials, butterflies, or you're just looking?
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No, I'm just, you know, I'm just living life. Every. Everyone's seen a butterfly. Everyone's seen a butterfly drawing, and I've never seen one person be like, that's not how you draw a butterfly.
C
And there's a lot of butterfly tattoos out there too.
A
There's a lot of butterfly tattoos.
B
And again, butterfly knowledge. I didn't know this was such a family friendly show.
A
There you go. Yeah, we got it all.
C
Yeah, we're very family friendly. The butterfly is often used as the tramp stamp, I believe is what they call it.
A
Thank you. True. Thank you.
B
Can I throw it?
C
Not that I've ever seen one.
B
Talking about. Talking about family friendly.
A
Yeah.
B
Can I talk about back to. Back to Soft week? Sure.
A
Yeah.
B
Sitting down. Last night, I got invited to an event. So shout out to all true organization.
D
Okay.
B
A L L Tru. It's a women's soft JSOC organization that former and current operators within the community, some names, you know, operatives. Yep. Thank you. And. Well, they're still doing the job.
A
They're doing the job.
B
And they're supporting it. And they're laying, yeah, laying the way in many cases for the work to get done in, in heavy weights and there's a heavy cost that they pay. And it blew me away some of the stories they were sharing. It was the first time actually I'd been brought into a circle that was centered on women operatives at the tier one level. And you know, I'm a big advocate for not feminists, but feminism in the context of, you know, the, the power of the woman and the strength of a woman. And, and well, it was really under. Underscored last night, you know, underlined of the impressive things that they're out there doing alongside you guys in much smaller numbers.
A
But what's crazy is, you know, like everything else, feminism got hijacked. Feminism. If you see like original speeches from, from feminists, I actually agree with them. I wish I could remember name off the top of my head. She was, she's known as the founder of the feminist movement. And it was an old video and basically what she's saying is, hey, this is what we're trying to do. This is what we're trying to celebrate. If, if you do something that a man has already done or a thousand men before you have already done, we're not. That's celebrating mediocrity. That's just. What is that to celebrate? Go do something that a man has never done and that's worth celebrating. And I can get behind that all day long. Yeah, I get behind that all day long. They.
B
Well, the low hanging fruit of that is delivering a baby. You know, we get one little stone and it's like, yeah, we're done, you know, but absolutely. They're pushing a watermelon.
A
Yeah, we've complete. And this, that's another thing. Just. I hate the things that they, they can do. But our society, for whatever reason only wants to measure a strong woman under the same scale as a strong man. Right. Can she dunk? Can she hit a home run? Can she shoot a gun? Like that's along the masculine scale. But that's, that's so unfair to them because that's not playing by their strengths. Right. And, but because of modern feminism, you have all these girls trying to compete with men who, when they really should be playing to, to their own strengths and, and advancing in life that way. And that's the way they're, they're going to advance. Yeah, Never in sports. I just hate to say it. No, I don't, I don't. That's, that's just the truth.
B
Totally well, and they started the night, I mean, basically did stand up as, as operator operatives and, and told stories that were funny. Yeah, your favorite thing.
A
Absolutely.
B
And they opened the night. You know, you're always good about honoring the fallen and, and respecting. And so the night opens with, you know, a round of shots for everybody to kick it off. And they had a little display on the side of their, their fallen and you know, named them and recognized them and honored them to kick off the night. And yeah, the stuff they're doing around the world, you know, actively is amazing. But post career. Yeah, they're doing stuff in Afghanistan, they're doing stuff all over the world that people don't know about.
A
Make, make no mistake about it, there are certain things in combat that women can do or do better or get away with that, that a man can't. So, and so of course we need them and, and play. And again goes back to let's play to their strengths and not. And not put them in competition against men. Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's promote everyone's strengths.
B
Yeah.
A
And I love that. I do. Well, otherwise it turns into an us. Us versus them.
B
Sure.
A
And it's not an us versus them, but when they, again, when they want us to play in the same sphere, it, it becomes that when it shouldn't, it really shouldn't.
B
Well, and even in the operational side, right. If, if a team has a breacher or the recce guy or, you know, whatever, assaulters, medics, everybody's got a role. And some roles are better applied for a different build a different ability of endurance or speed or agility or strength
A
or even a different look or a
B
different look or, you know, age even, you know, when you get into the agency stuff, it's like, yeah, hey, where do I want to put somebody to do something? And how do they blend in the most? You know, and so having that skill set and capability, it's totally adaptive to win.
A
Right.
B
It isn't about in us versus Them, it's about what's the best. What's the best, you know, piece on the board.
A
Right.
B
To win the game.
A
Absolutely.
B
Ultimate chess.
A
I guess that's right. So, and that's, and that comes with an America first mentality, with a true America first mentality, means we will put the best person, you know, that's, that fits this job, not just assigning, assigning winners, which is the woke movement. So. Yeah, absolutely.
B
Yeah. So anyway, shout out to them.
A
Absolutely. I'm glad you brought that up, actually. Glad you brought that up.
D
Everybody see who passed away today.
A
Who?
D
Kyle Busch, the NASCAR driver at 41 years old.
A
What he die from?
D
Oh, says, doesn't say yet. Still new.
A
Oh, no. Yeah. You big nice car fan or just. Just came across your feed.
D
Came across my feed.
A
Yeah. I grew up here. I went to the Dona 500 once and I, and I only, only stayed. Only stayed for like the first 10 laps. It started to rain and
B
if it was rain. Come on.
A
Trump showed up and did the, and did the lap and in the Beast and, and they were playing the Foo Fighters. There goes my hero. The whole time during the lap. Of course that's, that's Trump's people. Everyone's, everyone was super excited to see him, him go do that. But again started the rain. So me and Devon were like, we don't care that much. Let's, let's go, let's go bar hop home. Uh, back to super chats through. What do we got?
C
All right. Our boy Panieri says, disappointed to see you drinking a Coke Zero. Here are some Pepsi Zero money.
A
I don't mind Pepsi Zero. You know, oddly enough I don't like Diet Coke and I don't like, I don't like diet Pepsi. I'm a Coke Zero or Pepsi Zero. I'll take Pepsi Zero of a Diet Coke.
C
But no, I like Diet Dr. Permer.
A
I do like Diet Dr. Pepper. It's not my go to. But if, if whatever reason, if they don't have Pepsi Zero and they don't have Coke Zero, Coke Zeros first. Yeah, I'll go to diet diet Dr. Pepper for sure.
C
I can't do Diet Mountain Dew. I just can't.
A
Oh, man, I used to live on Diet Mountain Dews. Yeah, I used to live on them. I used to call him a poor man's energy drink. Yeah, well, what, what you got there, Justin?
B
Well, the one question I feel like I do get this a lot. Why does this guy Justin talk about the military like he served and I didn't serve and I've never claim.
A
Right.
B
But you know, being adopted into or getting accessed into the, the soft community, jsoc. I'm always open. That's why I wrote a book about it as being a problem solver, you know.
A
Right.
B
And my ability to get access, whether it was in the intelligence community at the agency, at a director level on darpa, stuff for TBI for end users or different sensors. I'm a problem solver. I have a big network. I try to listen, I try to assimilate what the needs Are when I'm on these podcasts with Andy or you or, you know, it's. If anything, I was a support guy would be maybe a better way of modeling me in that environment. But I wasn't even a support guy because support guys are dedicated assets or women that are in the building.
A
I'll do it.
B
I was an outside problem solver that had a lot of excess and a lot of trust built in being brought to tables to talk about things as an outsider. Had had a lot of exposure to a lot of solutions. And what could I bring to the table? So, I mean.
A
Right.
B
I'm trying to be transparent and honest. Honest about.
A
No, I'll. I'll give it. I'll give it to you. I'll rebut that With. With this way of thinking. I think it's more like a sports analyst. Right. You're a sports analyst. Like you. Your job is to study something. And because you were in. Because. Because you studied it and in that environment and that was your job, to be a part of it and analyze things. And they speak on it. So I don't hear. That's actually not true. Sometimes people do it, but rarely do they ever tell Stephen A. Smith, well, you. You were never in the. In the. In the NBA. Shut up. Like, what. What do you know about the NBA? Well, Stephen A. Smith knows a lot about the NBA because he was an analyst. And I think that kind of fits you or you. You never claim to be a player. You never claim to be a shooter, but you were there as. As an analyst to some degree. So, sure, you can speak about it. You were there. You. You looked at it. You lived it. You lived right next to him. You can't. You saw things, and you saw things through your own. Through your own lens, which is what's important. Sure.
B
I'll take that description from your mouth. My ears.
C
Okay.
B
And I'll use it because.
C
Well, remember, Benary is Donnie. So that's where the Pepsi joke came from.
B
Okay.
C
Because that's all I do. When he came to the u. S. When I replied back to him, I said, yeah, Brent, off the cuff. You know, I probably didn't catch that. So I wonder where off the cuff came from. Maybe the chats will help us out with that one.
A
Off the cuff. I don't know. I don't know. Magnet. Can you let us know what off the cuff comes from just in case? All right, what else we got?
B
Like Jane Goodall with chimps. That's a funny comment. I was Jane Goodall observing gyms I get it now.
A
I get it now. Yes, thank you for that.
B
That's hilarious.
C
David Chamberlain says. Hey gents, please offer a prayer to my friend Sergeant James who passed away Sunday at 42 years old after a hard fought cancer battle. A United States Marine Corps vet and 18 year law enforcement, he was a great friend, dad and man rested he's brother. Absolutely. We praying for him, his family.
A
As you get older, it, it. Even though, you know, I didn't even know him, it still, it still hits really hard because I'm 46 now. And then the. To hear someone died of something like that at 42, you know, just makes you realize like there's 80, 80 and 90 years old is not, is not, is not guaranteed. You know, now you do not. You, you don't know how long you got. So it goes back to live, live the best life you can because you don't, you don't know if you get a, a chance to turn it around.
C
Chad Ruck says hey burnt and spew 50 for the fallen is doing a route recon in New York City, June 11th. All are welcome. Reach out to 50 for the fallen
A
and join route recon. And of course we'll be there for the September. Whatever route they, they figure out or if they confirm that route, we'll, we'll be there for it. Drew speaking that, you know, the, the last guy too was 42, died of cancer. That reminds me of the GoFundMe okay. That you talked about. Of course I never really want to. It's all about transparency. I'll tell you exactly what how I get these decisions. Sometimes we get asked to do a lot of things and I love the, the do good stuff that we do. But sometimes the, the, the fallout of that is now everyone sends you a message and says, hey, can you, can you put this out? Can you put this out? Can you put this out? And now you feel kind of like a jerk because then you have to decide who you're going to promote now, yet now you're picking winners and losers. Yeah. And I absolutely hate that. And so Drew came up to me right before the podcast with another one and again, a complete transparency. When we started talking about it, I was already thinking, no, we're probably not
B
going to do it.
A
Like we have a lot of other things. And he tells me about it and I'm like, yeah, we're absolutely going to do that. Why am I such. Why, why, why am I, why am I like this? You know, wait to hear it. So this is something we want to show you guys. And after hearing it, there's. There was no way that we weren't going to do it.
C
Well, let's see. Share this. There it is.
A
Let me know when you got it up, Drew.
C
There we go.
A
All right, Drew, if you can, maybe it's a little bit bigger in your screen. If you, if you can read the description of it for. For everyone.
C
All right, so let me get this privacy. Okay. This is Jason Preston. He's former army ranger, law enforcement in Chicago. Even his partner in the PD reached out to me to verify his story. Says, hey, out there. My name is Jason. I'm a u. S. Army veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan and also Chicago PD veteran. I am pleading for your help. I am a single father of two. My daughter's 5, and my boy just turned 7. Last year, my son started having some medical issues, and I prioritized his medical treatment over everything else. We survive off my VA disability, and it doesn't stretch very far. Now our home is at risk and I'm trying to keep a roof over my children's head. I'm asking that anyone who sees this, please find it in your heart to contribute even a dollar and share the link as much as possible. Please help. God bless. And so he's got two autistic children and one with some significant medical problems. And I believe what I was told by his partner is that his wife checked. She. She. She left. It was just too much. Don't know the. The details for that. So he's a single dad.
A
Drew, go scroll down and go to the. The description of it. Scroll up then. So if you go to. Go to gofundme and you search. Army and law enforcement veteran needs your help. And that is what I am doing right now. If you search for that, you will be able to. To donate. He has a hundred dollars raised. That is absolutely ridiculous. It's ridiculous. There's going to be 10 to 20,000 people watch this live. And if everyone donates $5, I'm not asking. Don't, don't. I'm not asking. Hey, send me super chats and then go send that a big amount of money. There's no need for that. If you. Everybody just goes and sends him $5, we can crush that and we can help someone.
C
I'll be doing it tonight.
A
And so. And even though I just said that, I'm trying to get it done right now, we are going to start this out. And as always, because of you guys and your support, we are going to put our money where our Mouth is. And we're going to kick this thing off with $1,000 donation from the Tier One podcast. I don't know why my phone is going so slow. So I'd like to do it. I'd like to do it right now while. While I'm thinking about it and talking about it, or else I will forget and then look like a fraud when someone goes back and says, oh, you never donated. And then. And then saying, oh, I was going to. Just makes you look like a fraud. So here we go. I got it up on my phone right now.
C
I just posted the link in the chat.
A
All right.
C
There's somebody in the chat said they'll donate a thousand dollars as well.
A
Wow.
C
The link is in the. Should be in the chat.
B
You have a good family here.
A
That's crazy. Give me a second. I hate the. This, the. The lull and the. In the show, but some things. Some things are worth it. And like I said, I think. I think for what I'm doing right now, people will gladly wait for just a second.
C
Yeah. So this, I believe, was posted like six days ago. And the reason he reached out to us is because he did post it and nobody has responded. Not a single person. So he reached out to us.
A
All right, There you go. Just looked at it. Says donations Brent Tucker, $1,000 just now. So again, if you guys are hearing this and want to go over there and. And trust but verify it's in there. I did it. We did it. To be honest with you.
B
Yeah, it's.
A
We did.
C
Community. Thank you.
A
Yes. What else we got?
C
That's where all them super chats go. All right, what else we got here? All right, Ryan says Purple Heart recipient, So I am 100%. So no property taxes. Groundbreaking is in June. If y' all want would like to join. House will be completed in November.
A
Oh, man. Send us a. An invite over the tier one podcastmail.com. please do. I'm not saying that we will go, but, man, at least give me the option to see if my schedule is open enough to go, because I know you're here in Florida.
C
Braden Medlin says, what was it like meeting Tinker Hatfield? What's your favorite pair of Air Jordans? Why is it the Twelves?
A
Do you keep up with the number of Air Jordans?
B
I don't even know where there are now. I think 30 something.
A
My son could tell you he's enamored by Jordans. He's like 11 years old, and he's constantly sending me Jordans to buy them. And I'm like, no, you have, like, three pair. Like, how many. How many pair can. Can you have?
B
Well, that's a generational example right there. It is impressive, and that's why Nike is as. As terrible as they were doing right now. And we talked about it last show about many things. You can judge them right. Harshly on, you know, the fact that they create these legacy products that shape culture, shape sport, whatever, you know, And. And my favorite pair probably is the three, because that's the first one that Tinker designed. And.
A
Okay.
B
To me, it's fairly simple and understated, I guess. I like it.
A
Yeah.
B
I'm not a big basketball shoe guy. They're too thick and clunky, and it just never was for me. I like the Kobe line quite a bit because it's a lot more athletic. Yeah, my buddy Eric Avar designed all those, you know, RIP Kobe. But. But, you know, when we talked about it last time I was here, I mean, I'm pretty sure I think I could get Tinker to come on the show. I don't know if people would be interested in that, in this audience.
A
Love that.
B
But Tinker, you know, he. He loved coming out to the unit, and, you know, we did a couple days out there as kind of a VIP guest and went to dinner and so pines and different stuff. And so he got a lot of exposure, and it was. Made a big impact on him. And. And it. In many ways, it changed the way he valued, you know, the access and ability he had to participate in that, I guess. You know, and. And that's. I think that's what the exposure when you are talking about your prior career or other guys, and people have a difficult time with that exposure because. Supposed to be the quiet professional or whatever.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, and I met. I met a UK Tier one guy on the. On the. This week. Okay, I'll just say shout out to baldy and leave it at that, but. And 34 years in service, you know, with a few more to go, he said. And one of the smartest, wisest guys I've come across who understood the inside, the outside, the civilian side, he's an intermediary now, and by my observation, he really understands it. But what he said to me was, the more special you are, the less special you act.
A
Yeah, that's true. That's. That's true. That's a good way to sum it up.
B
And I thought, wow, that's profound, you know, and very British in many ways. You know, it is.
A
And so they have a great culture
B
But I mean, if. If there's a response here that people care about it, I mean, you know, I'm definitely happy to go and, and sit down and basically make a good pitch. And, you know, Tinker's getting close to 70 now and he's doing a lot less travel and a lot less like stuff, but I definitely chaperone him, like, as a friend and say, hey, man, I'll make it easy for you and bring you out here and let him sit down for an hour or two. I'm sure you'd love it, you know, and if anybody in the community were to ask, it would be you. From the unit where he spent time, you know, trying to solve problems, do you.
A
Do you think he would make me a tier one shoe shoot?
B
I mean, I can always ask, man. I can always ask.
A
I got.
B
I got connections. But it's on the record now, so.
A
Right, okay.
B
And then last thought on Tinker just. There's an incredible documentary about him on Netflix and the Design series, and it's about a 40 minute episode.
A
Okay.
B
And it just captures him to a T. So I can't recommend it enough.
A
And I will watch that.
B
And yeah, when I was with him a lot in that time, it kind of captured. It gives you a glimpse into his life. And when you're on the outside, you're thinking, is his life really like this?
A
Yeah.
B
Is this really. Because he goes to his beach house and he designs and he goes and goes surfing or he goes and gets on his electric bike through the dunes and it's like, not because he's playing, but because it's like, I'm gonna put my head down and grind and work and then I'm tapped out. I need to go recharge. And this is my recharge. And so everything that's in there is like really. It is a glimpse into his process and everything. And it's pretty profound. I think people would enjoy it.
D
How accurate is a movie?
B
The movie? Not so accurate.
A
Okay. What's the name of that documentary that is accurate, though. Do you remember the name? The name of it? Off. Off top of your head.
B
You mean the Tinker one?
A
Yeah, well, it's.
B
It's the Netflix design series.
A
Okay. Within the Design series.
B
Yeah.
A
The name of the. And Tinker's name is one of them.
B
There's probably six. There's an arcade architect and a bunch of them, but. And they're all good. It's a great series. But I was just.
A
Yeah, that'd be my bedtime watching in the. In the room tonight. Cool. Watch it. What else we got, Drew?
C
North, south, east, west. Says Canadian soldier who is utterly useless is referred to as a shite pump. Because we're savage.
A
Because we're savage. That's why. Okay. All right. That's why.
C
K dig says my great grandma used to say, what in the same hill. I have no idea what she meant.
A
That is a good one. Oh, did you?
C
I did. I looked it up, so I had to. So I've heard it many times. So it's kind of like a Christian cuss word, you know, like, you know, dad, git. Instead of saying, what the hell.
A
It's when the Sam Hill.
C
What in the Sam Hill.
B
Okay, but kind of like shut the front door, right?
A
I mean, that's the reason.
C
Exactly. Like shut the front door.
A
Right. But you don't know why they chose Sam Hill.
C
The history is muddy.
A
Okay.
C
Monkey people try to tie it to a hill owned by Sam, but nobody really can do it.
A
Okay.
D
I looked up off the cuff. What do you got right on the cuff of their shirt? And they used to flip it over and watch it like the 1930s.
C
So, like, if they had a prepared, like.
D
Yeah, like a speaker had to speak, he would write it on the cuff of his shirt.
A
Right.
C
Or he kept the note in the cuff of his shirt so he. So that he didn't have prepared notes.
A
Yeah. Short notice. And so it's kind of off the cuff. I'll take that. You know what? You know what's the worst, though? I'm gonna learn all this tonight, and then I'm gonna try to be cool in front of someone and be like, hey, you know where that. And then be like, I can't remember that. Yeah, we talked about it one time on the podcast. I can't remember.
C
TJ Paris says 110 skydives. 110 skydives. And I've given the hang loose every time. Brent, what's your fun jump canopy size? No judgment here for the dive. Swooping is not worth it.
A
No, it's not ideal. That is true. I said, you better be surfing. Seen a lot of hang looses in a plane, and I think that's a. That's appropriate too. I. I don't. I don't have issues with. With that. One favorite canopy size for. For boogie jumps. 160. 160, I don't like. And even 180, actually, some of these guys get into some handkerchief for size canopies, and I just. That's. That's crazy to me. And essentially, once Once you're going that fast, it's almost. The only way to land is to. Is to swoop. And like I said, that's. That's an injury waiting to happen.
C
Evil Abe Lincoln says, just a Memorial Day super chat for my Buddy Clayton Beauchamp. HM2FMF kill in action August 7, 2012. As long as we speak their names, they're not gone yet. They're just grabbing us all a beer from the shop at.
A
Absolutely. Thank you for doing that. Thank you.
C
Just another 11B says in memory of Wesley Wells, killed in action. 92004 Nika, Afghanistan.
D
All right,
C
Brandon Medlin. Justin, do you have any crazy exclusive Nikes from your time there?
A
That's a good question.
B
I have a couple. Yeah. Everywhere I worked, I have something.
A
Yeah.
B
One pair of something. Because, you know, the advantage you have when you go to the factory is you're going there to oversee something that's in development or in, you know, prototyping or sampling or production. And so when you get in there, you got this whole library of bottoms and uppers and colorways. And if you have a good relationship with the factory, you can go, hey, can you slap one of these on? And you just potato head something into something that suits you. So the smart idea that I learned pretty quickly was get two pairs and know your boss's size. And so when you come back with something exclusive, you put something on the desk of your boss and go, hey, I brought something back for you. So that way, if you're walking around with something unique, you're not going to get called out for, hey, what are you doing wasting resources over there when you know they exist? But. Yeah.
D
Are they still in the box?
B
No, I wore.
A
I love it. Sure.
C
Yeah. All right.
B
I'm not a collector like that.
A
Right.
D
Guys that go in there with that one store that buys them.
B
Oh, yeah.
C
Oh, my.
B
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, there's guys that have been Nike a long time that literally have storage units of box shoes.
A
Yeah.
B
Have never been worn. So there are.
A
There are people on YouTube right now hearing this. Just. Just licking their chops.
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
And they probably know.
A
Yeah.
B
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna call out anybody that has those storage units, but sure.
D
Yeah.
B
I've mentioned the names tonight maybe once or twice now.
A
It's probably a good time to remind everyone it is coming up the first Thursday night of June, someone's gonna wear or get a pair of these digital night vision panos absolutely free. I was dumb enough to pay $4,000 for them, plus the hat, plus the ear pro, plus the mount. That's all extra. I'm just gonna send it all to you for free. I'm still gonna do the, the review video so you know exactly what you're getting. I have worn them and I have started a little bit of the filming of it. So I do know how, I do know the benefits of them and I do know the negatives of them. It's. There's a reason why analog panos, a decent one, start at 20,000. You can easily go to 40,000. These are not them. However, I will, I will tell you the tricks and some things, some small things that I had to learn while using them and bought some accessories to take advantage of of what they are, and they'll handsome to enhance them. Yeah, they, as a standalone, they're, they're not even close. But with just a few other things to help them out, they. They actually perform and they'll, they'll never, they'll never be picked up to go on a tier one hostage rescue mission. But if you want to, if you want to grab that, your, Your gun and a few accessories and go hunting at night, you can absolutely do that. And it's, it's actually, it's actually pretty fun. I, I did my best to try to take my, my, my Tier one hat off because, because when I first put them on, I'm like, crap. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Like this, these.
B
It's relative.
D
They're not $50,000.
A
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And if everything falls apart, you're going to want a set of those either. If they're at a budget, especially even if they're at a budget level, because whoever doesn't have night capabilities is going to be at a massive disadvantage.
A
And if you, if, if gas prices get any higher, you're going to want those.
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That's right.
C
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A
Absolutely. Drew, let's take a, let's take a break and let's reset for the second half of the show.
C
Okay, sir, let's do it.
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Yeah, that's why he was asking, did you do it?
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A
All right, Drew what do you want to do? You want to go back to Super Chats? You want to go to Instagram?
C
Let's do Instagram for a little while.
A
All right.
C
There's some funny stuff, and there's some good stuff. I've learned stuff tonight because of it. Thank you, Brent.
B
Yes.
C
Which one you want to do, brother?
D
The show is educational.
A
Let's go to that one right there. See what this. What this is. Yep. Okay.
F
The most controversial sporting event in the world is taking place next weekend. It's like the Olympics, but athletes, instead of competing for medals, are competing for a prize pool of $25 million. In the Olympics, there are really strict rules of which substances are allowed and which are banned. But at this event, anything goes. I'm talking about the enhanced Games taking place in Las Vegas between May 21st and 24th. This is one you won't want to miss. It's different than other sporting events in the sense that it's not just athletes competing. It's athletes with teams of scientists and doctors competing using substances under medical supervision. There are events across weightlifting, swimming, and track, and these teams are trying to come up with the best possible protocols to enhance human performance. Individual events have prize pools up to half a million dollars and additional prizes for athletes that can break world records with basically any biological enhancements on the table. Critics are calling this the Doping Olympics, but proponents are looking at this as an opportunity to test the limits of human performance. Regardless of where you fall on that spectrum, it is sure to be interesting and entertaining. I'll be there myself, not competing, but covering the event live on X and YouTube and show sharing some of the coolest things.
A
All right, that's good enough.
C
I like that.
A
All right, Drew, start a poll, if you don't mind.
C
Okay.
A
Ask the audience if they're for or against the Doping Olympics. And, Justin, what say you, man?
B
I love this question. We've been talking about this for a long time, 20 years, you know, I mean, working in your world. And we used to have the conversations because, you know, like, one of the questions is, why does this guy talk like he served when he didn't? We answered it earlier, but I'm there to be a part of the conversation to bring in an outside perspective. And. And one of the things that came back a lot was how do you optimize the operator, like, on a human performance standpoint, you know, and if you had medical supervision with everything that was available for what's termed doping, but it. Not in a negative term, it's just basically what Supplements can we use, you know, Gatorade's a supplement if you're just drinking water, you know, and so now, I'm not trying to be facetious, but, but we're. Human performance is everything. So, you know, coming at the time from sports industry and going, hey, doping is illegal, so it's, you know, what are the limits of natural. That was always a conversation. But then we went into the operational community, you know, and NSW is a different environment. Right. There's a lot more. There was, you know, most of the guys talk about there was a lot of drug abuse in the context of performance enhancers, you know, kind of a thing. It was not. There was windows and waves of it, not, not as a constant. But the conversation always came back as if you're sending guys to fight for freedom or to face death. You wanted to be maximized, you want to recover. And if tools help them recover faster and perform better and are, move faster and be stronger, we talked about tenths of a second. It's not about a gold medal or world championship, it's about life and death. And so everything that could be available, you know, from medical supplements should be explored. Right. And it isn't. And talking to two, four guys that are medics and they get called docs on the battlefield their entire careers and having those conversations with them. In the last, I would say, five to 10 years, there was more exploration on optimization for nutrition and, you know, recovery tools, but not into the gray zone per se. And those guys still agreed that how do we just keep getting the most without shortening lifespans? But so all that said about this, you know, over the last 20 years, we used to talk about, like, man, I, I, my conclusion probably 15 years ago was I want to see a, an Olympics or a world championship where there's no holds barred. But here's my caveat. If the gold medalist or the champion dies in the, in, in the say five years or 10 years to follow,
A
you pick, you pick the year, right.
B
And it's going. And, and the death is from something like blood doping or enlarged heart.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
You know, or, or just things that would be related to excessive abuse of things that are not natural, then their record or their, their championship gold medal or whatever is taken away because someone that is like, I'm going to do the most incredible performance ever seen by humans and die afterwards.
A
Yeah.
B
To be in the, to make that my legacy, because I don't care about it, then, you know, that's great entertainment. If you want to go there, like the Roman Gladiators in the arena. Yeah, I don't want to see that. I want to see, like, I want to see someone who wants to push a limit, which is fine. That's what Lance Armstrong did. That's what they did in professional cycling. They, they, you know, they push the limits of man and machine and performance enhancing tools. And a lot of cyclists died in that, that era. They had to sleep with blood spinners because their blood got too thick and their heart would stop in the middle of the night because they're, they're blood doping, you know. So in this arena, I think it's incredible. I mean it, I think it's going to be really interesting and exciting, but I wish that to have some kind of an encouragement of don't just take the complete lid off and become a freak of nature and die a month later and have done the most impressive feat known to humanity because, you know, you were a farm fed monster with a big frame and you could, and you could handle all this drug load to build the biggest muscles, the strongest tendons, you know, all the things. There's still got to be a, A filter, a lens, a limitation of common sense. Is my, That's a lot. My long winded answer.
A
But I love the self, the self realization there, because magnet, you have 30 seconds or less to answer that question now.
D
Well, I think we have all these Hollywood movies. Oh, we have all these Halloween movies, Super Soldier and all these other things say you want to push the limits. And you keep talking about robots and stuff like that on the battlefield. Why not make the soldiers a super soldier and enhance their. They're doing that with their limits to what we, what we can, what we're capable of doing. Right.
A
So it's, it's morphed because the question was, what do you think about the doping Olympics? No, we're talking about Super Sol.
D
Great. You'll be able to figure out what they can and cannot take.
A
Yeah.
D
To their limits to push them to the. To. They're the best capability.
B
They are.
A
They're so old. Here's, here's, here's my, my take on.
C
Ask me, Brett.
A
Go ahead, Drew.
C
I'm for it.
A
No way. What? Unlike you, to have a short answer. And I love it. Okay.
C
I thought you'd like it.
A
I do. I love it. All right, here's, here's the deal. We should absolutely keep the Olympics clean. And if you want a true gold medal and a true world record, you have to do it clean. That's, that's, that's for that's for all the marbles.
C
Yeah.
A
The doping Olympics for entertainment all day long. All day long. You'll never hold a real world record. And I don't care if you die 30 days later of a heart attack.
C
And science, if that's what you want
A
to do, because at the end of the day, one shows us what the human body can do, you know, naturally and that, and that is, that should be the standard. I don't care about steroids in combat or anything. That's. It's different because it's not, we're not, it's not for. We're talking about defending the nation's freedom. There's nothing should be fair in that. So that's the only way to make it fair is to say all natural. But the entertainment side, this thing, I can't wait to watch it. I want to see absolute world records destroyed by mammoth men. I do know this. The guy who founded this had a. I believe he's an Australian swimmer who is a sprinter and paid. Said he'd give him a million dollars if he could break the world record, but he could. You can do whatever you want. Yep. And so I watched it on a YouTube video and he came in, they should like the side by side. Him natural and him now and he's jacked now and he actually swam slower than, than when he was all natural. So of course there's going to be certain things that actually can be a little bit of a disadvantage. Now obviously he was taking the wrong steroid because there are steroids. Cyclists are taking performance enhancing drugs and they're getting faster, not bigger. But they'll, they'll figure it out. Yeah, I can't wait for it.
B
Metabolic, you know, clearing your lactic acid so you don't get seized up from lactic acid overload. All the things.
D
Yeah. That documentary about that cyclist that was. Got the. What is it? German, Russian scientist or whatever they got in trouble. That documentary about him and he was doping him up.
B
Probably Dr. Ferrari, you know.
D
Yeah.
A
Who's he, who's he doping?
D
Some wanted a cycle.
A
Okay.
D
And try to break records.
A
Yeah. But I, I say the same thing about professional sports. I say, hey, sure, we should probably have an all natural league, but give me, give me a major league baseball league where everyone's £300 and jacked and can throw 110 mile an hour fastballs and hit 500 foot home runs. I'm watching it. I'm watching it. So I'm, I'm all for this. I'm all for this. Give the people what they want.
C
Yeah.
B
Can I throw one more piece in there?
A
You can.
B
A little more out of bounds even, I would say. Ten plus, 10 to 15 years ago, when I was working on some DARPA projects, the conversation came. Meet. Came to me because of this type of conversation, working in your space, because I was always anywhere I would go back to answer the questions of why do I talk like I serve? Because I'm around the communities I see, dod, whatever, and I'm constantly fishing for information to move around to create advancements and enhancements and opportunities through the whole community, you know, as an intersector. But One of the PMs had basically said that as they do their things, they had been in an Asian country, China, and had. China had been doing some, you know, they were there under an institution, a learning institutional kind of COVID and talking about research. And they got shared with that there was being testing done on humans where they were taking animal components and, and basically grafting them onto to humans to see if they could run faster, okay, they could perform faster, and they were getting results. And, and one of those conversations became, you know, the human body, the, the tendons, the connector tissue is designed a certain way. And this is why you see in the NFL that, you know, guys that get too big, too strong, too fast, and all of a sudden they start blowing joints because the joints can't be supplemented. So one of the discoveries that was shared with this, this, you know, PM was, yes, we can make people run really fast, but they run their legs apart, basically. You know, and so we're, We're.
A
If someone, as long as they know that, that's what I'll say. If someone knows what they're. What they're signing up for and decides to do it anyway for, for. For glory and, and fame. Right. Who am I to tell you? No, I want to see your approach. I want to see a man run 35 miles an hour.
C
Sure, that's going to bring a new mention. That's going to bring a new meaning to. He's the goat. If they're using goat tendons or something.
D
Yeah.
A
All right, what else? What else we got for Drew in the super chat?
C
All right. By the way, guys, Jason Preston emailed me and because I gave him the heads up about tonight after you guys responded so well, and he, and this is what he said to all of you. He says, thank you, guys. I'm not one to get overly emotional, but my kids are my world and you guys helping and having my back make you family. This is one of the major things I have missed since leaving the army. Brotherhood. Thank you, everyone. That's from Justin Preston to you.
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God, I love that. I love that.
C
All right, next super chat is the oppression is back in. He says when someone says, get that shite out of here, it harkens back to when to we used chamber pots. True story.
A
Okay, that's it. True story.
C
Pooping in the pot, throwing it out. All right. Gro says, why does this guy just. Oh, we already talked about that one. Yeah, yeah, we answered.
A
He jumped ahead on you. Sorry.
C
Let's see.
A
No, that's all right. You were in the guest chair. You can do that. Thank you.
C
Holy folks says Justin. Any good sweatshop stories? Just kidding, of course. Unless you got one.
A
Unless you got one
B
good ones. Well, I mean, we, we talked about the challenges of working overseas and the costs and all those things. And, you know, I don't know, it's not necessarily funny. And I'm still working on my funny stories, but. Okay, I'll close with one tonight. Just.
A
All right.
B
Just to put it on record, but, you know, I was, I was. In fact, they have a tier system of factories in most, most industries, you know, and the high tier ones are high value, high expense, high, high quality, all the things. And the lower ones are more commodity products and some of those lower quality tier factories. I definitely saw kids working on the line, you know, and it was definitely. It made me have to think and pause and stop, you know, and we talked a little bit about, on, on the previous show about the quality of life that those people have. You know, Nike could elevate the whole quality of everyone's life over there, you know, or, or industry could, but, you know.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, the sweatshop phenomenon is. It's, it's something, you know, and it's production and it's. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't profitable. And it wasn't. If people didn't find, like, they were getting more value out of being in it than not being in it. Because it's not necessarily slavery per se, you know, it's the environment. And, And I'm not trying to rationalize it or justify it, but it's a complicated equation and I hate it. But it's a real thing.
A
Oh.
C
Different culture, different economy.
A
Yeah, exactly. I'll. Yeah, it will be unpopular, but at least has to be said. And this is because I've traveled around the world twice. There are times where there are certain things are just PDFs. Right. That's just wrong. But that's wrong in any culture. It's not my American culture. There, there are right and wrongs. There were times I found myself judging certain cultural norms on my American norm and having to go, well, is it, is it really right or wrong or just because it's not what, what I'm used to. And again, I, I understand. I'm not this, I'm just giving the devil's advocate about this. If it's their culture to have kids working and helping to provide for their country, how's that any different than, than farmers that force their kids here to America to work to make it happen? So I, I do have a little bit harder of a problem with just saying, oh, kids in sweatshops, it's wrong. It's a, it's a different, it's a different culture now. I mean, what's their work environment? You know, how many hours are they getting pulled out of school to do this? There's a little bit more. But to have a kid working, I don't know if just that is enough for me to go, nope, wrong.
B
I agree. And it's not a pass the buck conversation. It's not, not trying to avoid just asking questions or anything like that. But to your point, if the standard was upheld by the government and the country and, and that was, it wasn't even an option, then Nike wouldn't go in there, or industry wouldn't go in there and do work that was a lower dollar. So, so like America holds a standard and holds a wage standard and holds a condition standard and they police it generally. Other countries have that same responsibility and it's being modeled. And once everything rises, if the tide rises, all ships. Right, then it reduces or eliminates that even as a conversation, you know, and I'd love to see that, you know,
A
to be honest, here's a, here's a better, I think, example of cultural norms that, that we're indoctrinated into. But I don't know what's right or wrong. So here in America, 21 years old to drink, you can go to other places, 18 or even 16, and you can drink. And now I will tell you 16 is too young to drink. But that's because I've grown up being told 21 to drink or nothing, but you can go back into art history and we wasn't always like that. So there's a lot of things that are cultural, but is it really right or wrong? I don't know.
B
Well, just a small ad to that. There's a maturity that you see in Other countries from teenagers where they. How they conduct themselves, a little bit more composure. And American teenagers seem to be a little bit more reckless, you know, and
A
so for us, we need to raise it like 25.
B
Yeah. And so, you know, which came first? The recklessness and then the age setting or the recklessness because of the age.
A
Sounds solid. So what else we got, Drew?
C
Just another letting B says sorry. Another Captain Shane T. Adcock, killed in action October 11, 2006.
A
Yep.
C
Iraq.
A
Yeah, 2006. Ouija was a rough place. Thank you for that. Thank you for saying his name.
C
Braden Medlin. Hey, bro, let me get those dudes contact info with the storage units. I wear ten and a half.
A
Yeah, I also wear ten and a half. Almost hate that because I think it's the most common shoe size in America.
B
Pretty popular.
A
So anytime there's a popular shoe or something, I want, like, the chances of being in size early is. Is slim to none.
B
True.
C
They're nines and twelves everywhere.
A
Exactly.
C
All right. Right wing nut. Thank you, man, for the love. Appreciate that. Howdy, boys. Brent, I'm gonna buy a folding stock PCC to go in a backpack.
A
Okay.
C
Ready? Got the gloves, rope, and hacksaw. Just kidding.
B
Just kidding.
C
And I can't afford a MP7. Suggestions?
A
I absolutely have a suggestion for you. Take it away.
D
Magnet line, arms 9 millimeter.
A
Yep. Yeah, you can.
D
We have my PCC all day.
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All day. Folding butt sock.
D
Yes.
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Okay. Custom paint job, of course.
D
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Tell them. Tell them. Tell them what website to go to.
D
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all right.
C
Bam.
B
Amen.
C
All right. Chase Lee says I have 19 names for memorial Day. Too many names for the super chat. Can I text Nick so we can get a shout out for the boys and a lady?
A
Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Yes, you should. That's exactly what we'll do.
C
David Hookstead in the house says, happy Thursday, boys. How do modern day veterans with high awards view veterans for from older awards with the same awards? For example, does a silver star in World War II carry the same weight as the G Wat Quat or vice versa?
A
That's a great question. As I'd expect from David Hookstead. The. I almost. I almost wanted to do this. I just don't know if. If I should because it's not that their fault that they're getting these awards. The. The type of awards they're getting, let me tell you. I don't know how it happened. I don't know who did it. I have a hunch that it's very political that we're just going to force high level awards because it, it looks good on the units, it looks good for commanders. Let me tell you. Silver Stars are still hard to get, don't get me wrong. But let's. So let me just stick with Medal of Honors just for a second. You go look at the Medal of Honor write ups in the GWAT and then you go look at a World War II or Vietnam medal of Honor Medal of Honor write up and you will see two different write ups. Two very different write ups. I do not believe most Medal of Honors in the GWAT would have got a Medal of Honor in any other war. I'm just. And that's, and before you come at me with someone's name, I, I said most or I said not all. But it is, it is, it is, it is staggering. So yeah, that's, I don't, I don't think most people in the military look at it that way. I didn't look at it that way until I got out and I started podcasting and looking at stories and, and that's when I, that's when I realized it. So I don't think it happens in the service. But let me tell you, in my opinion, they're different.
B
And do you want to expand on
A
it a little bit? Sure. With.
B
I'm just curious how you, how you, how you define that for yourself as a. How do I just positioning yourself in that point of view makes me want to learn more from your perspective.
A
So to expound on it and to be a little bit more specific, me and another guy, we're going to do who's a conventional guy. We're going to do a and we still will going to do a Medal of Honor conventional verse special operations episode. And so top 10 I was going to give my top five or top 10 special operations medal of honors and he was like just the best stories, like the best write ups, the most insane Medal of Honors and he was going to give his five or 10. I don't know how many we were going to do on both. And we're going to make it like it was conventional verse special operations for that's about as click viewy as as I get and spoiler alert at the end what we were going to say is guess what? End of the day the these Americans are are bad dudes. It doesn't matter where you come from. When you put Americans on the battlefield the boys will show up and do amazing things. There is, there is no clear winner other than Americans is The common denominator. Not conventional, not special operations. But I had to start going through all these awards, and that is when I started really realizing there is a massive difference between, between these same award, different wars. Absolutely.
B
And it's cultural, it's time relevant and it's societal. And it's probably the impact. I mean, we're. This, Our society has a different view on, I know, on the military today than they did 40, 50, 60 years ago.
A
That is a, That's a good point. That could be a reason, you know, why it's cultural. So what, what was amazing maybe a couple generations ago isn't so amazing now or something like that. But I don't, I don't, I don't buy that. It's. I'm a little bit jaded from, from everything I've seen. And so, so that's, that's a, a solid option to throw out there that my jaded mind didn't go to. But even, even with you giving me that option, I am still going with commanders and, and different departments of, of the military want medals. In fact, I know for a fact that certain, certain departments have gone fishing for it and said, hey, these guys just got one. Go, go check it all out. Like, we need one. And that's not how Medal of Honors are awarded. They're awarded on, on, on merit based. I don't care if the Marines have seven and the army has one and Navy has three. Like, it's not a. They got one. We, you know, where's ours? And that's. That's what it's turned into. Yeah.
B
Do you feel like I'm just throwing it out there? You know, another example of people talk about Muhammad Ali versus Tyson as a fighter, you know, they never got to fight. They were never in their prime. You know, we watched the highlights or Wilt Chamberlain and a Michael Jordan or whatever. Do you feel like there's any. Is that playing at all? Because you know what was incredible at that time, to your point? An evolution in time and growth. I mean, look at like Travis Pastrana changing motorcycling. And what Evel Knievel did right was riveting in the time, and now it's laughable. No suspension, no nothing. You know, I'm just curious.
A
Again, a good point. But I think, I think it's different because kind of what, what you're bringing up, I would understand you're bringing up things where things got big better. So what was really good then got better now. And they're both the best of their time. But if you bring both those, like, they're nowhere comparable, but we're going, we're going backwards.
B
Wow.
A
And we're going backwards because, you know, there were heavy. There were heavy casualties, heavy battles. There were need. There was a lot of need to do heroic opportunities, if you will, to do heroic things that these guys chose to do. Yeah.
D
World War II, you were in the
A
trench and, and, and the gwat. There wasn't as much opportunity to do those type of. Of things. And that's. And that is just the, the truth. And don't get me wrong, it's a learning thing too. Some guys did. Some guys did. Go ahead, Magnet.
D
It's a learning thing too. You learn from those different wars and all that kind of stuff. Just like what you were saying about the guys in the early GWAT, the guys that were in the 90s. They learned from those guys, from them to enhance their, their capabilities and their, the way that they fought.
A
It was just a different enemy. I get what you're saying about, you know, they learn from us and they. So if you don't make miss sometimes this is kind of a joke. People get awards when people make mistakes because if, if the mission goes right, there's no reason to do anything heroic. So good planning will save you. Good planning, good tactics will save you from the need for a valor award. But it's not just that. It just, it just wasn't the same type of enemy. You know, it just wasn't the. Wasn't the same type of enemy, wasn't the same scale. You can look at the casualties and, and prove that it was a much lower, A much. The violence was much less in. Within that conflict. So if, if there's lower casualty numbers, you know, by, by that same decree, there's going to be less valorous awards because there were less fatal, really risky confrontations.
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Battles also lasted shorter too.
A
Which ones? War two Vietnam lasted 20 years, didn't it?
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Was it 20 years?
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Dang near. Yeah. But, but that's even crazier. I don't think it's a time thing because the time thing actually goes to, to the other point. World War II is much shorter. So it. And a lot more casualties, which actually shows how much more violent it would have been worse. Right. We'd had even, even more Middle of Honor winners in and anyway. But yeah, that's. David Hook said really got us on shortened. Yeah, David Hook said really got us off on a, on a tangent on that one.
B
True.
C
All right. Justin's also in the chats. He's Our tane. So he says thank you to Everybody. And the GoFundMe is tagged in the chat as it's. It's. What do you call it? Posted or.
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The link is there.
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Yeah, the. Whatever it is. All right. Doc Lou says good evening, gents. Closing songs, Taps for all of our friends we have lost overseas and at home. God bless America and the Republic of Texas.
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The good state of Texas. Good state.
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The very good state of Texas.
D
The great state of Florida. Very good.
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Chase Lee says, all lost during 10 to 11 deployment to Afghanistan.
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Oh, I see. All those guys were lost in one year's deployment to Afghanistan. Wow, those are heavy numbers.
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Just love B says I wear four names on my wrist that don't come off, even for tsa.
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I love that.
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Specialist Wesley Wells, Corporal Billy Gomez, Specialist Isaac Diaz, and Captain Shane Adcock. I was never a hero, but I served with some.
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Absolutely. Thank you. Well put. Exactly.
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TG Paris says, got my AFF at Paraclete in Rafer.
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I had been there many times.
C
Great staff. And you never knew who you were sharing the plane with. Plus the chicken quesadilla at the bar. Slaps.
A
Okay.
C
Mandel handle says how well do the strong knuckle dragger types do at the unit, if there are any. Love the pod.
A
That's another good question. There are absolutely some strong knuckle dragger types at the unit, but it's a little bit on a. On a. On a sliding scale. So. And I'm, you know, not to be unhumble for a second, but our knuckle draggers are still pretty smart guys. And other units, they're just. You're just. Everything is. Is elevated. So. So they're knuckle draggers that we consider knuckle draggers, but they're. They're still very intelligent, intelligent men. But. But there are. There are levels to intelligence, even at the unit, and guess what? And even. And every unit needs a knuckle dragger. I don't. I don't care what unit, how high or how low level you are, you need. That's. Again, that's true diversity. You need someone that'll outthink the problem and really dig deep. And you need another guy that's like, I'll just run through the wall, wouldn't.
C
Bam bams.
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Yeah.
B
Calculating the physics. I can do this.
A
Stand back.
B
Hold my beer.
A
Yeah.
C
All right, let's break it up. Do some Instagram.
A
All right, let's go. Thank you, Drew.
C
Sound to you and you. Your choice, brother.
A
Let's. Oh, that's Actually a good one, I think. You like this one? Yeah, that one. The top one. And then we'll go. Barney. Next. Believe it or not,
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Dark secrets of people you were taught to idolize in school. The last one will blow your mind. Number one. Mahatma Gandhi. School taught you he was a symbol of peace, but they left out the dark parts. Gandhi made his teenage parents, grand nieces sleep naked beside him as a test of his self control. He also believed black South Africans were inferior and fought to keep Indians above them socially. Even his own assistants called his behavior manipulative. The global hero everyone praises had actions that would cancel anyone today. Number two, Sigmund Freud. You were taught he was the father of psychology, but his beliefs were disturbing. Freud used cocaine daily and recommended it to friends, patients, even his wife as a miracle cure. He forced sexual meanings onto everything, claiming children desire their parents and calling anyone who disagreed in denial. His theories were driven more by obsession and drugs than real science. The man who claimed to understand the mind barely understood himself. Number three, John F. Kennedy. School taught you he was the charming hero president, but they never told you what was behind the smile. JFK cheated on his wife constantly, sometimes with multiple women in a single day. Inside the White House, Secret Service had to sneak mistresses through side doors to hide his affairs. He also relied on heavy prescription drugs while making major world decisions. The man America sees as a symbol of hope was living a double life darker than any Netflix drama. If you want video like this, follow.
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Interesting.
B
Maybe look up the source. The source? Timing of Secret Service. Maybe that's when.
C
Origin of Secret Service.
A
The Gandhi thing's disgusting. And. Although. And, and. And they love them. And this is. I hate to get on this, like, political thing, but it's not necessarily political. It's just right or wrong. I can't help it if one side just happens to be more logical than the other side. But that being said, that being said, I won't blindly follow any side. I'll follow the truth and what's right. So generally speaking, what side loves Gandhi? Well, take a guess at it. The liberal side love them.
C
Yeah.
A
And if. And if anyone on that was, you know, on the right that was like on the right side acted like that, they would. He's absolutely. They'd cancel him in a heartbeat.
C
Yeah.
A
Simeon Freud's. Who is the. The. The founder, if you will, The. The founding father of psychology was an absolute turd of a person. An absolute turd of a person. And again, who loves psychology the most? Our higher educations, our liberal educations. Love psychology. And Sigmund Freud was out there. Psychology, modern day psychology, founded by him, really exists to disprove God. It. It really does everything.
C
It's to explain the human desires and actions and behavior. Without religion.
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That's right. With. Without. Without acknowledging anything like sin. Because if you acknowledge sin, you'd have to acknowledge that, well, you need a savior from. From sin.
B
Make sense of everything through a man's lens or through.
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Exactly, exactly. Make it sense of everything through a man's humanism.
C
Human.
A
You know, JFK was a Democrat. Although I say this all the time, JFK couldn't even run as a Democrat today. If you. If you fast forwarded him, he'd be. He'd be a staunch Republican because of all his views. But again, he's. He's hailed as. As this great guy. All the things they say, and some could be true, and some may be true, and some actually are true of some of some things that Trump should have never said or done with a woman. I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, no, Trump's great. Trump's great. He's. He's. He's a man like. Like anyone else. But my problem is, if you're going to hold him to this standard, yet idolize JFK as some great president. That's what I have a problem with. Yeah, that's what I have.
C
Inconsistency.
A
Inconsistency.
C
Hypocrisy.
A
Yeah, exactly. All right, let's go to the next video. Drew, this is something.
C
This guy here.
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It's. This story will blow your mind.
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This is the disturbing story behind Barney and Friends, and it's genuinely terrifying. In 1991, near Fort Worth, Texas, a struggling children's performer named Raymond Barlow was hired by a small studio to test a new purple dinosaur costume for an upcoming kids show. The producers wanted something warm, friendly, and harmless. But from the very first rehearsal, the crew noticed something was wrong. Whenever Raymond put on the suit, his posture changed and even his voice no longer sounded like his own. At first, everyone assumed he was just staying in character. Then a cameraman named Eddie Vance vanished. The last tape he recorded. Recorded showed the dinosaur standing alone on the dark set, perfectly still, staring into the lens, long after everyone else had gone home. Over the next few months, three more crew members disappeared. The studio quietly replaced them and kept filming. They couldn't afford to shut production down. But after every disappearance, the costume was found somewhere different. In a hallway, inside a storage room, once even buckled into the front seat of a car. When the producers finally Went to confront Raymond. His apartment was empty. Only the dinosaurs were suit remained sitting upright on the couch. Sewn inside the lining were thin strips of human skin. And near the collar, written in purple paint, were the words, once Barney fits, he never comes off.
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This is the.
B
Wow.
C
What?
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You want to know what's crazier about that story?
D
What?
A
None of it's true.
C
It doesn't sound true.
A
None of it's true. Yeah. Do not believe.
C
Yeah.
A
Everything I'm thinking. And they put it out there professionally. They got names, names. They have pictures, like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe this.
B
I thought everything on the Internet was true.
A
It's the day and age we live in between, you know, false. You know, false information. AI. AI. At least the beginning of AI videos were just a. You could. We're a little bit off, like, oh, he's got six fingers. Like, that's not real. You know, like, there was always something. The water wouldn't splash, right? There was something. AI videos today. I. I've almost caught. I've almost done it a few times where I almost put up, and I was like, watch this, only to find out, oh, no, no, that's. That's. And it's gonna happen to me. It's gonna happen to me at one point, but be. And I have to do it all the time.
B
Verify.
A
Take. Take the. Take the Gandhi. And you know that clip. I had to. I had to go look all that up before. Before. Before I posted it. And one day, again, I'm fallible. I will not intentionally. I will probably put something out that I'll have to come back up and apologize, and I will if you guys, you know, say that that wasn't right. But that's how easy it is. And I guarantee you there are people watching this thing tonight that. Watch that goes. Oh, that's a crazy story. I can't believe that happened. You're right, because it never happened. Y. Just want. Just want to show you how easy it is. That's how easy it is, folks. Oh, let's skip that one. Go to the bottom one. There's two that. That. That need to happen. No, no, the bottom one over the one on. On the current screen. Okay.
C
This guy.
A
Yep. And then go to the one right below it afterwards. Sure.
C
All right, everybody see us yet? He did it again. Thanks, Scott.
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We're a little bit. I'm a little bit behind on my. My phone, but. All right, we're back. All right.
C
All right, we're back. Here we go. Here we go.
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Scroll down not that one. That one. Let's go. Play it again. Oh, man.
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Surprise, surprise. At the creek. Some people might not have seen it. Look in the cave right there it is. That's a big old snake too, man.
B
He checks it.
C
He checks it. He checks his snake, says something and foreign, probably like, he put me in the bus. Something like that.
A
Thanks for the translation. Go right to the next one, Drew.
C
Yes, sir.
A
This one. You don't catch it at first or you understand it first. But. Where that snake come from? Right there. Oh, yeah. Here's life with the snake girl.
C
Oh, my gosh, dude. Could you imagine?
A
Yeah, she's trying. Yeah, these things. She slowed down, tried to stop. All right, this is. Is. This is kind of the point.
C
Oh, gosh.
A
It's so crazy. But I want to make. On this video is people love going to foreign countries, and this, this. These two videos just kind of reminded me of this. Right? People want to go to foreign countries and. And do exotic things. But most. I'm just telling you, most of the people I know, they don't. They just go to foreign countries.
B
Mouth open. Oh, on the snake.
A
Oh, they just go to foreign countries and they stay at really nice places that resemble really nice places here in America. And they only go to nice manicured beaches that are just like the manicured beaches here in America. You know, you don't really want the exotic experience. That's the exotic experience. No one really wants to go in the jungle. Get. The jungle's not where you want to go. Everything wants to eat you. Bugs want to bite you constantly. It's miserable. You know, you're. You're sweating your junk off. Like, exotic places aren't. Aren't. They're only cool in pictures. They're only cool in pictures. So why do we do it? Why do we do it? Just. Just to say that we did it just to take a. A crappy taxi ride from the airport to your manicured place.
B
Well, somebody. Some people want to adventure, I think, but a lot of people are just virtue signaling, like.
A
Right.
B
Where'd you go for your vacation? I went to, you know, I went to Peru and.
A
Whoa. Right? Or. Yeah, yeah. If you go to Peru, you don't venture outside. Lima is actually a pretty nice city. You don't venture outside of Lima or. Or really go, you know, maybe some of the suburbs around it. You think that's very jungleish, but it's. It's not. Go. Go down to South Peru, Amazon. You'll. Yeah, good. Yeah, good. And even on the Amazon, there's a couple nice places, but then that's where you'll go. But yeah, that's. I would almost venture to say, other than saying that you went there. If. If I took you out of that really nice manicard. Manicured place of the Amazon and took you at a certain point on the Mississippi river, you probably didn't know which which one was which.
D
Right. You know, all exclusive in Mexico. Let's go down to Miami.
A
Yeah. Just get the same beach if that's what you're gonna do. Just. Just stay in the States.
B
Yeah.
A
And never. Never have to deal with. With anything. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, Drew. What's. What's the poll? Do we ever get the poll up?
C
Yep. The poll is 75% for the doping. The doping Olympics.
A
Love.
C
It just went to 74%.
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Oh, gosh.
C
4, 26. 26 against.
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All right. I wonder. I wonder why the people who are against it are against it in a way. I mean, maybe they're just traditionalists. Like, I. I get it, but I wonder why. Like to. It's clear why people would be for it. I get that. I get that all day long. I'd like to. I'd like the. The counter of why you would be against it. I'd like to hear in the chats some of the most exotic places you've been, and you had a really bad experience because that's the other thing you go. If you truly go exotic.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
You don't know what you're getting.
B
You know what I mean?
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You don't know where you're. Where you're staying. You don't know, you know who that. Who that guide is. You don't know the vehicle you're about to go into. I would love to hear. I know this is almost sinister. I'd love to hear a really bad experience about what was supposed to be a great trip. Exotic. We're gonna go do this. And it's like, you know, I don't think I want to do this anymore. Someone's got one. Someone's got one.
B
All right.
C
Super chats. Holy fook. Thank you, man, for the love, man. You guys doing things like this is why we're able to do things for people who need it. We really appreciate it, Brent. May 19, 1982. 22 SAS lost 18 guys from both DG squadrons along with three pilots when a Sea King helicopter on cross dock ops between two ships crashed due to a bird strike during Falkland's War. Greatest loss of life for SAS in a single incident since World War II.
A
Holy fook. I love that. I love that you put that on the super chat because I saw you put that in the general discussion in our Patreon and it made me look into it. And it's a, It's a wild story. I'd never heard of that. I'd never heard of that until you put that in Patreon. So I'm really glad you doubled up and put it out here on, On a super chat. That's a, That's a. I don't. Man, I almost said cool because it's not. It's. It's an important story in history because one of the greatest special operations units lost some great men. And even, Even though it shouldn't happen because it wasn't glory in war, it happened and, and we shouldn't forget it. And it should never be forgotten. The sacrifices these guys, the sacrifices these guys are capable of giving, even in training, I don't think people understand how risky the things these guys do. Just, just moving around, just training. It's amazing we don't lose more men. It really is.
C
I saw news thing this week and they were talking about some of the deaths that have happened in the Iran war up to this point, over two months or something like that. And I'm like, I'm looking at those numbers and I'm like, you know, those numbers could happen just on the regular in the States, just from training.
A
It's true. You know, Andy Stumpf on. I think on Joe Rogan said, said something that, that I get, and I understand that the way he prefaced it, he knew that it wouldn't be well received by some people. And he said training has to be dangerous. In fact,
B
this is.
A
I. This sounds, sounds weird, I know, but we have to lose men in training. I know some people say we should never lose men in training, but this is what he's. If, if training by nature is as closest to war as we can get it, then you can't separate it. Men will die in training. But if, if, if it's that hard and you do have that loss of life, then you are training correctly and you are prepared for the next war. It's a weird thing to say, but I know what he's saying, and I hate it, but I agree with them.
B
And the more you bleed in training, the less you bleed.
A
That's right. Yep. Absolutely.
C
Even, Even with. Even not in the military, even fighters die in training. All right. Holy.
B
Isn't that timeline close to Eagle Claw?
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When was it? May 15th or 19th. True.
B
82.
A
82. 82. Yeah. Yeah. It's close to it a little bit after.
C
Holy fook. Back in says Magnet. Does Travelocity pay your licensing fee for the garden gnome idea you gave them? Just kidding. Also, Oscar Meyer. Nathan's or Hebrew national hot dogs.
A
Solid question for Magnet.
C
Nathan.
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Nathan's. He didn't. He knew. He knew.
C
No hesitation.
A
Drew, go to Instagram real quick and go to the very last video.
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What's he eating? A hot dog. Oh, it's our boy. Kingpix Media.
A
So this is a long running joke on King picks about them eating hot dogs because maybe. Maybe you understand this.
C
You see his shoulders go down.
A
Maybe. And guys, if. If you don't follow King PCK Media or if you don't go to kingpicks media.com and see all the different content he puts out. I love promoting good people who are veterans. He is. He. He's it. Go follow that guy. He. He has this ongoing thing about eating hot dogs or corn dogs. And I. I have felt this way before. I just don't know there's a manly way to eat hot dogs. It just. It doesn't. Oh. You know, like, you ever feel like it's just not a natural?
D
Look, I don't give you enough time.
A
What's that?
D
I don't give you enough time?
A
You don't give me enough time.
D
I don't give you enough time to do all that kind of stuff. I can smash four hot dogs.
A
Oh, I see one. Yeah. You eat it so fast. Yeah. The. The time windows so, so short.
D
Yeah.
A
The opportunity for awkwardness isn't there. I agree with that. I agree. That's the only way. Yeah. You can't. You can't nibble it. You can't. You can't.
D
Enjoying a hot dog like it's.
A
Yeah. It's got to crush it.
D
Just crush it.
A
All right, I'll buy that workout.
C
Take steroids and. What was the other thing I was gonna say?
A
Crush hot dogs.
C
Wear a beard. That's the way that you eat a hot dog. Manly.
A
I don't know. It's only been a recent thing. Oh, good. All of us. Is it just me? Every time I eat a hamburger, I have ketchup or mustard or mayonnaise in my beard. I have to have a pile of napkins every time. So I'm always having to clean it out of my beard. I do wipe.
B
It's a bite.
A
And then. And then. Your beard smells like ketchup, you know, the whole time.
C
I like that part. I Lick it. I lick it for like 30 minutes.
A
Oh, no, I got to. After I'm done, I got to go wash my beard out in the. In the sink. I don't beard.
B
World problems. First world problems.
D
Oh, eating. Eating a hamburger like a McDonald's hamburger in your truck while you're going down the road.
B
And it runs down like yours is a bib.
D
But I go like this and eat. I push it back.
A
Gosh. What else we got in super chats, Drew? Sorry, I had to.
C
All right. Chats. See, Dwazi says I'm here for magnet to peds for the hot dog eating just 11 Bravo says also here for magnets. Peds build more guns, faster respect. Yeah. JB67 says Trent Bucker. I've heard that combat clearance is only effective at night with ballistic walls. Would you still take a more deliberate approach during the day? And pie doors, Specifically SWAT teams.
A
I know this is a difficult question for you to give me all the information, but I'm gonna give you a loose answer that you may not like, and I'll have to say, depends on the situation. But even with that, more times than not, yes, you can bring the ballistic with you. Bring shields. Bring shields. If it's so dangerous that you're going to get shot, then don't run into rooms, because running into rooms is a good way to get shot by someone who wants to shoot you. You don't know where they are in the room. You don't know if they're armed. You don't know that. But they know that you're in that house, and they know that you're coming for. For them. And they know exactly what door you're about to run into. And if they want to shoot you, they will shoot that whole stack before it gets in the door or. Or as it's coming through the door. Those are hostage rescue tactics. They're bad tactics for the team. They're really good tactics for the hostage. We're putting the hostage above safety, above our own. So if there's no hostage involved and it's a high risk situation and you have time, and you're not the New York City SWAT team that does eight hits in the morning, who just doesn't have time to go slow. Like there's. There's a. There's a parameter. Like you could go slow and go safe, but then more bad guys would be on the street. Well, now, now, I understand that. But if time isn't. Is an issue. Go slow, Bring shields, outsmart the bad guy. You don't have to overpower him.
C
T. Chambers says when Justin is developing something new for a client, how much is he looking at their previous generation of products? And what, if anything, is useful for carrying into the future when you're trying to be on the cutting edge?
A
It's a good question.
B
I just had this conversation at the show today with. With silent because they're talking about advancements.
A
Okay.
B
Coming back to the show and they've been successful and they're getting adopted into DoD wide and all the branches as a. As a signal defeat on person. You know, in an ideal world, silent, like they were meeting with hex paths, attache or liaison, essentially. And in a perfect world, it's a Faraday bag, correct?
A
That's a Faraday bag.
B
Yeah. It's signal defeat. So, you know, the conversation came up. Shouldn't every service member be wearing a fair. Have a Faraday bag on their person so that if in their. In the. If they happen to be somewhere or doing something or get a call, they can go silent, so to speak? You know, not because one job is more important than the other, but because they are service members and they have a responsibility to the country. This, in this world of coming back to the show and talking about a debrief where signal and autonomy and drones and being able to be tracked.
A
Right.
B
And all the things are so prevalent that that would be. That becomes almost like, hey, welcome to the services, here's your Faraday bag. You know, and maybe there's even a check in on these times that no matter what you're doing, just like you guys would be out and it's like, we got a check on. We're dark until we have a check in time.
A
Right? Yeah.
B
You know, anyway, tool set.
A
But Windows.
B
So, yeah, we were talking about.
A
Great question.
B
I mean, that's a super intelligent question. And it's basically you. You have basic parameters, you know, you basically look at like wherever the question went. Sorry. But if you're evaluating a product, you just basically look like, what's the best examples out there? Whoever you're. If I'm working with the unit, the guys that want what they want, what's the best standard right now? What's the highest standard? Okay, what are our capabilities to meet and exceed that standard? Who was doing that standard? Do maybe we collaborate with them to go in there and encourage them to take it to a new standard? Because they're the ones that set the standard, you know, Solomon or whoever in footwear or, you know, could be technology or whatever. So you, you. There's a Param. There's a. There's a procedure that is not complicated that affords you immediacy to go to the best resources available. Now, if the standard is, if you've discovered something like, you know, we. We have something that could make a difference in how we move and operate and do our job and it doesn't exist, that's innovation. That's like invention, right? Then you look for things that are parallel. You go, then again fall back to the original process. Who's doing the highest level, you know, because you don't want to try to reinvent the wheel. You want to go where the wheel is being built the best. And that's where having guys that have high reputations or partnership with a company that has a lot of leverage gives you access. And so when people are questioning, why do I talk the way I talk and act like I was somewhere I wasn't? Because I've had access to a lot of the highest organizations and then they've trusted me to be able to say, let's just look at who's doing it best and let's go in there and ask them if they want a partner. And then we negotiate who's getting the credit. And, you know, ultimately it's the end user that wins. But, you know. Yeah, so it's not complicated.
A
But I've always hated this, this saying, and I've even gotten it before in, in relation to calling out vets. But people say, hey, don't worry about what anyone else is doing. Just focus on. On what you're doing and just be the best that you can be. That's one of this. I hate to be so blatant sometimes, but it's one of the dumbest comments I've ever read. Abs you.
B
It's a safe comment.
A
It's right. Then you've not. Then you've never been very good at anything, or you've. Or you. Or you weren't as good as you could have been at anything. You have to look next to you at your competition and see what they're doing. Are they doing something better than you? Emulate it. Emulate it and try to build on it. Are you doing it the best? How do you know? How do you know you're doing it the best unless you look at someone else or your competition? It's that mindset. I've heard it before and I've heard it. You know, people tell their kids that when it comes to a kid thing, I kind of get it, but it's just, it's never A mentality that, that I would give my kids.
B
You know, as you're explaining that with such emphasis and clarity, it reminds me of that Jocko clip about.
A
Good, good.
B
And you did a parody on it, right?
C
Yeah.
B
But what you just did and Drew, maybe you, you, you tagged that timestamp but pulling that because it has that same clarity and impact. But it's right, it's you, it's the way you view the world and I like it.
A
I, I, it's just over the top, the way he does it.
B
But, but he's over the top.
A
But I do like that message.
B
Yeah, it's powerful.
A
I do like that message.
B
By the.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Before we go any further, just, just because I don't want to forget this. You were on Andy Stumps podcast, correct?
B
Yep.
A
How'd that go, everybody?
B
Well, it went. We had a great conversation.
A
Okay, everybody, Everybody love you.
B
Well, he and I had a great experience and our friends and we chat since and I'm looking forward to going back.
A
Okay. Stay out of the hilarity of the
B
Spotify, you know, comments out of the comment section. You know, the YouTube comments aren't too bad. And I've gotten a lot of people, people reach out on LinkedIn and DMS and we've had amazing conversations with CTOs and engineers and high intelligence guys. But it's funny. If you want to have some comedy tonight, just go to the Go to Spotify, look up my interview with Andy Stump and I'll tell you the comments.
A
I got a story for you.
B
But you know, give me the comments.
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But it was like two of them. But, but give them to me.
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You know, if you. Let's, let's go to Sportback Rider, you know, Ryda with an R I D
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A so you know he's legit.
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This guy eats bananas with his butt. Well, guilty.
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Okay. All right.
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Or that's content.
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You know, my phone just died.
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So do you remember the other one?
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Was something about your voice or something?
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Well, yeah, there was like one. Man, this guy's vocal fry is killing me, you know, or he's really feeling himself. When you have a lot of vocal fry, you're feeling. You're really feeling. Yeah. Yourself.
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Okay.
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Like, oh, I just thought it was a vin rhes kind of. Kind of.
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Do you remember the other one? I can't. And you already told it to back. I can't, I can't think of it off top of my head.
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It was, there was so many.
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Okay, but so one of the harshest comments I'VE ever read about. My own interview in my life was on the Andy Stump show, and it was on YouTube.
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It's hard to keep up with him.
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And.
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And someone. And someone writes in, I hope while he's in Montana, that Brent Tucker dies in a structure fire so I never have to hear his voice again. Golly, it was. It was so harsh. I laughed. I was like, dang, that's. That's. And I. I wrote back to him, said, man, this comment actually made me laugh. I don't know what I did to you, but. But thanks for the funny comment, you know.
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Yeah.
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But, yeah, there's a. There's a few more.
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I went on and answered most of them because I don't take them personally.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And I don't take a personally.
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I take it as.
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That would crack me up.
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There's something I'm triggering into that person. And. And actually I'm reflecting on, like, I wonder how I could communicate better or more concisely or more in more complete sentences.
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Right. I don't know if I kicked that guy's dog at some point or what. I know I didn't. I know it wasn't that. I don't kick dogs. As. As frustrated as I get with Max sometimes because there's a broken candle right there. I see it that. With glass everywhere, thanks to Max, which is. Where is he at?
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He's a big presence.
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Yeah, he's still. He's still hiding.
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He knows what he did.
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He knows what he did.
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That's why he's not out tonight. All right, Case. Anders says our elite should have a tier one human performance team supporting them with recovery and performance, utilizing whatever PDS are needed to do that. If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
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It's true. And we have half of that. It's the PDS that you can do it safely. Like, you don't have to be 260 pounds of muscle. You can do PEDs safely, but for whatever reason, we. We shy away from it. And I get it. It's because of optics. We don't. They don't like those optics, and I think it's stupid.
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But testosterone's now like. Like commercialized. And everybody's doing it, but before it was bad, bad. Now Everybody's like, go, TRT's the best.
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But that's again, that's a civilian market. The civilian market moves faster than the military market. You still can't in the military market. Generally speaking, outside of a few instances,
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local Ken says, cheer up, all right?
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Amen.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Do a little better tonight. Chucky says for the outro, Fleetwood Mac. Little lies.
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Okay.
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Thank Drew for that one because he said something nice to me and I said, tell me lies. Tell me sweet little lies.
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Okay.
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And so there. There's the backstory of that. Holy fook back in. Says, just want to say hi to Crockett and Tubs. You guys made a post with a pick. Who is who? We want to know.
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That was a good one. That was a good pick.
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That was a funny pick. It's. And that's a Step brothers movie out of Step Brothers on that one. Holy food Groff J says, Justin, did you work with Tim Kennedy? And were you there when he fought off all the Iranian freedom fighters?
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No one. Negative. No one was. No one was.
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He didn't need anything.
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That's right.
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Jumped on me here. Can't believe you. Okay, we got a little bit to go, Justin. Eleven Bravo says two Medal of Honor recipients whose story I love. Sergeant John Baker and Captain Robert Foley. Same action in Vietnam. Wolfhounds. 27th. Is that Indiana Nick?
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27th Infantry.
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Infantry. Okay. Neck. Espera turret.
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All right.
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Yeah. Hope. Hopefully I come across. Hopefully. If. If they're really great stories. They're. They're. They get picked for that Medal of Honor episode and I get to hear them from the conventional guy side.
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Chad ruck says the GoFundMe is almost to 50, 000. I. I thought last I saw was at 2000. I think 50, 000 is the. That's. You probably saw the 50,000 as a goal.
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Yeah, it is not. But hopefully again, when everyone. When everyone sees this over the next couple days and the viewers rack up, then we will see some serious movement. Hey, it's already, you know, 20 times what it was, so.
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Yeah, way, way more. And Chad Rucks is a prophet. It's going to get there. Right wing nut says Sergeant York captured a whole company of German soldiers like he was a lion and they were
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wearing pork chop drawers. Exactly. Sergeant. Sergeant York stories will. Will absolutely overshadow. I think almost every Medal of Honor winner in the. In the g. WAT.
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Yeah. Justin. Elton B. Says shout out to at legendary magnet community family works Brother keep grinding.
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Absolutely.
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Always
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waters far. Thank you very much for the love, man. Justin. 11 brother says last one.
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Food.
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Bourbon and cigars.
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Fu. Bourbon and cigars.
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Just kidding.
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Love them.
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Okay.
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Food. Okay.
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I didn't know that was a.
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Okay.
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I didn't think he was going there, but all right. I guess he did. Six's mom Come to Hawaii. The worst we got is centipedes. Okay. We have small scorpions only in the dry areas, and brown recluse spiders. Yeah, those are pretty bad. Six square, but still beautiful. And no snakes.
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Really?
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Aloha.
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I did not know that. Are there no snakes in Hawaii? I mean, she's there. She would know.
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I could probably eat them all.
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That's. That's crazy.
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There's got to be Democrats in Hawaii. Oh, okay. TG Paris says Hackworth also said training should be as close to actual combat as possible, even if it leads to casualty.
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Should. I hate to say it, but it
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was one of his biggest issues with the Army. I know you'll love it. I'll buy it for you.
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All right, thank you.
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North Southeast west says $2,004 raised for Jason. Let's go, Jason. I wonder if highlighting autism in your title or description would help.
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Not a bad. It's not a bad suggestion, actually. But, yeah, it's a little bit more than that since. Since you. Since you've read. Since he posted that.
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Joe Saunders says, I was visiting a certain part of Philippines. I had grown my beard out at the resort. The security and locals kept greeting me with aloha akbar. I need a saddle salad bar. I nodded and responded with a Kentucky. Kentucky accent and got weird. Looks great. Time.
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Nice.
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Oh, yeah. Well, you asked for some funny trips to stories, and you got one right there.
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That's right. You don't have to deal with that in the States, so. I don't like leaving the States. That's it, man.
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Holy fook. Back in, says Brent. If the unit asked you to come back, how long do you think it would take you to get back up to speed? Why doesn't the DFO have a reserve unit like 21 and 23 SAS?
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It'd take me a few months to. To meet the bare minimum. I'm not. I'm not completely broke yet. And because we don't need a reserve unit, I don't. I don't think. I don't think you could truly be a reserve. The same thing. Even if you had a reserve unit, they would never be able to. To just integrate back in without a. A massive train up.
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Go away.
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How do I take that off? All right. Flucky7 says Justin is imperative that you answer this right.
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Sig or Glock Lion Arms?
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I'm gonna go with Glock.
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Glock. No.
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Lucky guess, actually, if I'm honest, it's s. W. I'm sorry. That's. That's what I've been.
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They have one gun that actually, that they have a. They have a. I'm trying to think the. Their sp.
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Sp s, p. S p 2.0. That's. That's.
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That's the latest one.
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M and P. Sorry. MMP 2.
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MMP. That's what it's. MMP. Yes.
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That's what.
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I actually like that one. Super. I never buy it, but never have
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an issue with it. And I've run a solid gun on the range a ton of times.
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And yeah, solid build, great trigger, no issues.
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Not bad.
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Great. Great weight, weight, balance.
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And I just run. I run it stock and I've run by all these guys with custom rigs and they have issues.
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Yeah.
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Throughout the day and I'm like, I don't know, man. Pull it out of the box.
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But do like that. That Smith and Wesson. I do.
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Flucky7 back in says. Gents, what do you think about our British brethren taking back their homeland? Much love and God bless.
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I couldn't be rooting for them any more.
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I've been seeing those videos come across my feed.
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The.
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The Tommy guy.
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Yeah.
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Doing some good stuff.
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That he is.
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He's pretty bold. I like him. Braden Medlin is the last super chat.
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All right.
C
Your second to the last now, Justin, you look like Matt Graham from Dual Survival. Survival. Anyone ever tell you that? Also, Brent, what's your opinion on Joe Teddy from that show? Says he was in Delta.
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Oh, that guy. What's his name? Oh, Joe Teddy. I don't want to get too involved in that drama. There's. There's some long standing drama between Joe Teddy, if I remember this right, Michael Hawk and Dale Comstock, they had done some reality shows together and they did not get along either together or competing shows. I kind of forget. It's. It's been a while since I thought about that. But Joe Teddy was not in Delta and if he said that, I can already start to tell you which way I'm. I'm siding with in. In that drama, even without knowing very much about it.
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And the last one, Chase Lee says Nick has the names for Memorial Day.
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Okay. Do you ever get the old, you know, who you look like? Who do you get on Everyone? Everyone gets it to some degree in their life. What do you get?
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Tony Hawk used to come up a lot when I was in Southern California.
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Really?
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Somebody yell at me, Tony, I'd be going my way to Hurley. So I'd be in Costa Mesa or somewhere around his area at the time. And that would be one House. The doctor from House. I've been called a few times.
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Okay.
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Hugh Laurie, I guess his name is. I. I don't necessarily see it. Ben Stiller. I've been.
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It's weird, you know, people sometimes.
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Different interpretations.
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It's funny, I've had people tell me I've looked like certain people, and sometimes, like, okay, I see it. You know, I never. I never thought that I never connected that. But you did. That's cool. And the other times, like, no, I don't come up with that. With, like, no, I don't.
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Yeah.
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All right, let's do it out here with Taps. Taps is the winner. And from here we go to the regular chest to hang out.
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And while we get that going, Six's mom says, no snakes, but always have dumb people trying to sneak them in. Or they hitch rides on airplanes and get caught. Okay. Rise shotgun is from the guy who sat next to the driver on a stagecoach that held the shotgun.
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I didn't know that one. I knew that one. Yeah. Actually, I said I was gonna talk through the chats like I normally do when we play songs. I'm not going to. Yeah, this is. This is Taps. We're gonna sit here, we'll listen to Taps, and feel free to write the name in the comment section so everyone can see who we should be honoring and remembering for Memorial Day. So a moment of silence during Taps, but please feel free to type up all the names of all the great Americans that gave their life for the best country in the world. Sam.
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Yeah, that's what that song does, doesn't it?
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It's tough to read those names. Ah, tough to read those names knowing how much they sacrificed.
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It's the currency of freedom.
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That's right.
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It's the currency of freedom.
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Absolutely. Well, I appreciate you guys doing that. I've really, really do. Let's go around the room. Magnet, what do you got?
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Yeah, go check out the website. Linear USA.com and if you guys have any questions about, like, the 9 millimeters, 308 or anything like that, they might not be on the website right now. We're working on it. You can. On the front of the website, you guys can ask me questions, and it comes right to me. Or the.
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The.
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The phone number's on there, too, and it comes right to me on my cell phone. And lion underscore arms for the ig. Thank you, guys.
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All right, Drew, what do you got?
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What do I have? God bless America and God bless our troops. Keep them safe, especially now and in the harm's way with Iran. What's going on There. So thank, thank you to all you out there who've served and for all your families that, you know, gave the ultimate sacrifice for American freedom. And I thank you. That's all I want to say.
A
All right. Amen. Justin, what do you got?
B
Plug your book, the Innovators Handbook. Yeah. You can find it on my Instagram link. It's on Amazon. My name, justincoln.com takes you to a website that gives you the link to the book. And, you know, thanks for having me on. That was my first public appearance to talk about it. You know, I'm grateful that it's been a good ride since.
A
Love to hear it.
B
And I promised I'd share a funny story.
A
Oh, what do you got?
B
Yeah, I mean, I had another one, but the funny story happened on the way here because. Okay, you know, I, I, we talked about me coming here and talking about the show a little bit and, and everything started falling apart this afternoon. I had a rental car, it disappeared. Went back with the guys I was with. Then I couldn't get my flights changed and I was thinking, this isn't going to happen, you know, and I'm sitting at the airport and, and I got my flights changed and then I didn't have a rental car. And it's five o' clock and I'm thinking, the show starts at seven. I jump in an Uber shout out to Joanne from Trinidad and Tobago and her, her man, former Boston SWAT guy, Mark. She's like, I'm going to Orlando for dinner. You know, she's an Uber person. She's like, and this was perfect. It was like, God lined it up. And I jump in there and she's like, I'm going to get you there. And she's telling me all these stories and my buddy A.J. james, who I've talked to Nick about, and he wants to get on. He was an NSW guy, retired. He's from Trinidad.
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Okay.
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He was an act of valor and some other things, but very cool. So we started riffing. I call A.J. in there and she's talking to A.J. hey, you know. And anyway, she literally rips through the neighborhood to get me here as quick and close to seven as possible. Like, breaking. Well, she drove safely. But I rip in screech. I come in, code, the door, come in, and everybody's sitting in the garage and. And you're like, oh, I thought you were going to come in and make an appearance after the show started. I'm like, didn't the show start at seven? He's like, no, it starts at eight
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time and I was like, perfect timing actually.
B
Wow. Everything fall apart this afternoon. I thought I'm going to come in hot and just have to like get up to speed and. And I had time to decompress for a minute and catch up a little bit.
A
So what's, what's the old saying that we stole from someone on the show? Is it odd or is it God?
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Amen. It's always God.
A
Couple super chats snuck up on us. I want to make sure we get to them all. The unit guys love watching Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit on their way to Target. I didn't even know who those guys were until I got out. That was from Groff J886 Chris historian says just dropping to say what's up, fellas. Thank you, Chris. Chase Lee says thanks, gents. Love y' all and just another 11. Bravo says God bless America. You guys have a great weekend. Remember what Monday is all about and we'll see you on the next live.
Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Brent Tucker (former Delta Force Operator)
Guest: Justin Klahn (Problem Solver, Innovator, Consultant)
Producer: Drew Tucker
Theme:
This Tier1 Podcast episode, hosted by former Delta Force operator Brent Tucker, is a candid, wide-ranging team room discussion with innovative problem solver Justin Klahn. The episode is a blend of personal accountability, technical deep-dive on military innovation (with a focus on SOF Week), community engagement, the realities of service and industry, and memorable moments of humor and wisdom. They tackle everything from leadership under pressure and integrity to emerging tech, military awards, and the little-known origins of everyday sayings. Throughout, the tone remains welcoming, unfiltered, and engaging—like a conversation among trusted teammates.
| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:44 | Personal update, accountability monologue | | 06:41 | Recap of SOF Week, tech, and industry discussion | | 18:07 | Super Chats & audience engagement | | 22:22 | Origins of sayings & cultural quirks | | 31:54 | Women in SOF, feminism, AllTru shout-out | | 47:45 | More phrase origins, “balls to the wall” | | 67:34 | Enhanced "Doping Olympics" debate | | 86:32 | Military awards discussion, valor, historical perspective | | 95:22 | Memorial Day, honoring the fallen, Taps | | Every ~10m | Recurring Super Chats (community shout-outs, support, Q&A) |
This episode exemplifies the Tier1 Podcast spirit: tough, honest, and heartfelt, blending the reality of service with an uncompromising look at both personal and institutional challenges. Listeners got an insider’s view of SOF innovation, institutional shortcomings, and community in action. The show capped off with moving tributes to the fallen, a reminder of the stakes behind every story shared.
Best for: Anyone interested in military culture, real-world leadership, defense tech, or community-powered problem-solving—with a healthy dose of wit, humility, and heart.
If you’re looking for a single episode that delivers both hard truths and genuine camaraderie—plus the occasional how-to on eating hot dogs or deciphering military procurement—this is it.