Kyle Morgan & Brent Tucker | Tier1 Live

Summary

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Tier1 Podcast — “Kyle Morgan & Brent Tucker | Tier1 Live”

Date: June 26, 2026
Host: Brent Tucker
Guest: Kyle Morgan (Former Delta Force Operator), plus recurring co-hosts and contributors
Producer: Drew Tucker

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Episode Overview

This unique episode of the Tier1 Podcast brings together host Brent Tucker with Delta Force veteran Kyle Morgan, broadcasting live with audience interaction via super chats and Q&A. The episode dives deep into sobering realities of elite military service, leadership under pressure, survivor’s guilt, post-mission struggles, the culture of elite units, nonprofit work for veterans, and candid/heartfelt discussions on faith, family, and forgiveness. Interspersed with live banter, humor, and behind-the-scenes stories, the conversation balances gravity with camaraderie, giving listeners an authentic look into the minds of America’s elite.

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1. Main Themes & Purpose

• Warrior Brotherhood: Exploring lifelong bonds, accountability, and the burdens of service at the top tier.
• Service Beyond the Uniform: Giving back through nonprofits, supporting veterans, and continuing the mission "out of the fight."
• The Personal Cost: Open, vulnerable talk about mental health, addiction, trauma, and recovery.
• Faith & Family: The role of faith and family in surviving and thriving after trauma.
• Culture & Leadership: Candid stories about special ops culture, leadership approaches, and the difference between "doing your job" and going above and beyond.

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2. Key Discussion Points & Insights

A. The Opening: Brotherhood & Banter

• Who’s in the Room: Host Brent acknowledges running slightly late (“Welcome back to Tier One Live in disarray … I guess this is what happens when you add Kyle Morgan into the mix” [01:19]) and welcomes Kyle as a long-anticipated guest.
• Beard Banter: Light-hearted debate over beards (“There's only two types of people in this world that don't have beards — children and women, and I am neither” — Brent quoting Phil Robertson [03:18]).

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B. Transparency and Integrity in Nonprofits

• Giving with Purpose: Kyle discusses his work with Frontline Healing Foundation—supporting veterans, law enforcement, and first responders struggling with addiction and hardship (“I have to vote on hardships for veterans, active duty military, law enforcement, first responders that are struggling with chemical dependency to get the life saving care that they need … it's a nonprofit that I believe in and I put my heart and soul into” [05:36]).
• On Nonprofit Accountability:
  • Brent expresses skepticism toward non-profits with high overhead (“…there are some non profits out there that are kind of just supporting themselves … you are the beneficiary of the nonprofit” [07:12]).
  • Kyle and Brent both agree that getting paid is fair for full-time nonprofit work, but integrity is paramount (“I’m not that guy that's like, no one should get paid in a nonprofit. That's ridiculous. But...” [07:42]).

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C. Sacrifice, Survivorship, and Leadership

1. Kyle on the Burden of “Going Alone” — Aftermath of Heroism

   • Loneliness After Action: Kyle describes the days after an operation as harder than the event itself (“The real challenge was the day after and the day after … almost three and a half months by myself just unraveling, you know, on things that just weren't healthy” [26:11])
   • Survivor’s Guilt & Recovery: “I thought I was better than I actually am. And we are great. Like, collectively, we are great.” [24:27]
   • Suffering in Silence: Both discuss how silent suffering is common after high-stress operations. Brent expresses regret for not reaching out when Kyle was struggling post-incident (“And we all feel horrible about it … why don't you just pick up the phone and call a friend?” [27:45])

2. Faith and Family as Lifeline

   • Wife's Role: Kyle credits his wife Erica for saving his life and leading him to faith (“She actually led me to the greatest blessing, which is accountability. And … She led me to Christ” [25:47])
   • Quotes: “The only person that I want to hear [encouragement] from says [I love you, I'm proud of you] ... I can run through a mountain, like a wall.” — Kyle [71:20]

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D. Special Operations Culture & Physicality

• ‘Functional Fitness vs. Appearance’: Discussion on the myth of the “ideal build” for operators (thick legs, etc.), where functional ability trumps all (“The biggest thing is don't slow the group down … Stay with the group.” [14:59])
• OTC & Failure Stories: Kyle vulnerably recounts struggling with running in OTC (Operator Training Course), failing early events, and how it motivated him to improve—focusing on “functional fitness" over brute strength [15:02–15:27].
• Anecdotes on Camaraderie: Stories about embarrassing and funny field mistakes — from leaving a weapon in a latrine to wearing fanny packs before they were cool [39:33].

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E. Empowerment & Decision-Making in Crisis

• Discussion of Empowerment:
  • Both stress the importance of being empowered by their unit to make immediate, critical decisions without waiting for approval—sharing stories of acting in crises without higher-level sign-off (“I'm here. I have the approval.” — Brent [44:16])
  • Legacy of Morgan’s Heroism: Kyle’s solo actions in Mali were both a personal trial and an example that empowered others in the organization—proving not just what could be done, but that “you have the approval” to do what’s right in a crisis [43:47–45:11].

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F. Candid Q&A: Myths, Trauma, and Healing

• Skepticism About Bigfoot, UFOs, and Conspiracy: Both express skepticism about myths and conspiracy theories, pivoting to the idea that “demons” or spiritual explanations might be more plausible [20:25–21:34].
• On Respecting and Forgiving Enemies: Both agree that, while some adversaries (like ISIS) are respected for their fighting tenacity, their forgiveness is a personal and spiritual matter, not always possible or asked for (“Do I forgive the terrorists I fought? I try my best to forgive everybody … fighting against ISIS was ... more hardened." — Kyle [153:22])
• Advice for Listeners Facing Suicide: Brent offers practical, compassionate advice — “It’s okay to give up. It’s the same advice I give anyone that was in a selection — give up tomorrow ... just not today. Not today.” [154:22]

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G. Law Enforcement, Weapons, & Training

• Debate on Weapons for Police Entries: The hosts discuss the importance of giving law enforcement teams more than just handguns for building entries, stressing risk, accuracy, and proper tools for the mission [104:08–108:56].
• CQB Philosophies: Tactical discussion on deliberate vs. dynamic CQB, the non-stop learning curve, and when to adapt tactics for solo or team-based responses (“All CQB is dynamic because you don’t control the environment… but all of it should be deliberately done.” — Kyle [137:10])
• Shields in Law Enforcement: Kyle advocates for integrating shields into SWAT operations, provided teams train deliberately to use these tools effectively [110:11–112:05].

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H. Fame, Awards & Recognition

• Should Kyle Get the Medal of Honor?
  • The group discusses why actions like Kyle’s are rarely recognized at the highest level in elite units (“The unit was a very hard place to get a Valor award because…amazing things are average there and expected.” — Brent [127:32])
  • Kyle shares that the Secretary of the Army recommended an upgrade for his Distinguished Service Cross, but he remains humble and grateful for the recognition received [123:56–124:30].

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3. Memorable Quotes

• “Courage is contagious, and the courage of some, a few, is what makes all the difference in all these situations.” — Kyle [23:11]
• “Suffering in silence was a real thing … I wanted to be the best operator I could be in that unit. It was such an honor to be able to do that.” — Kyle [29:01]
• “Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die. That’s insanity.” — Brent [150:13]
• “The past is meant to inform our decisions based on lessons learned. But we plan for the future and we live in the present.” — Kyle [55:16]
• “If you can’t do 10 pull-ups, you’re not a man.” — Kyle [136:06]
• “The with you shirt … has a shoot house overhead … forms a cross and says with you, which is a term we use in CQB to say, hey, you’re not alone. I’m with you.” — Brent [178:17]
• “Give up tomorrow … Just not today. Not today.” — Brent [154:22]

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4. Audience Engagement and Lighter Moments

• Playful “Trump impersonation” and music jokes — “Creed or Nickelback for a 10-hour drive?” (Audience divided; Brent: Nickelback, Kyle: Creed [141:47])
• Embarrassing/funny stories ("I dropped my pistol in the pooper" — Kyle [39:33]; “Did you ever forget your rifle?” — Brent [34:17])
• Running jokes about podcast episode deletion and T-shirt ideas (“My favorite Brett story is the time I came down here and filmed for hours, he deleted the podcast…” — Kyle [127:53])
• Ongoing interaction with Patreon/super chat contributors, amplifying community and humor.

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5. Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | | -------------- | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:19–03:34 | Introduction, beard banter, community shout-out | | 05:36–09:51 | Frontline Healing Foundation, transparency in nonprofit work | | 15:02–16:56 | Failing OTC events, physical standards, and humility after setbacks | | 24:27–26:39 | Coping after trauma, importance of faith and spouse | | 44:16–46:26 | Empowerment in crisis, responding without waiting for clearance | | 55:16–56:16 | Addiction, rock-bottom, and recovery; message of hope | | 71:20–73:39 | Emotional needs of men; encouragement from spouse makes “all the difference”| | 104:08–108:56 | Law enforcement entry tools; why rifles matter for accuracy | | 110:11–112:23 | Use and training with shields in SWAT/HR operations | | 127:32–128:49 | Valor awards in elite units; humility over recognition | | 141:47 | Creed vs. Nickelback for long roadtrip (lighthearted cultural debate) | | 154:22 | Suicide advice: “Give up tomorrow—just not today” |

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6. Tone and Language

• Camaraderie & Humor: On full display, from beard jokes to “trap dance” challenges and “there is no tomorrow” pep talks.
• Candid & Honest: Both Brent and Kyle move fluidly from hilarious war stories to raw, emotional admissions.
• Direct yet Compassionate: Willingness to tell hard truths, admit mistakes, and reach out to those suffering in silence.

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7. Resources & Plugs

• Frontline Healing Foundation: Support for first responders and veterans with addiction and hardship ([06:23])
• Blue Bearing Solutions: Kyle’s training and apparel company, including the symbolic “With You” shirt ([178:17])
• FRCC Shop: Coffees, cigars, merch, supporting veteran causes ([66:10])
• Florida SWAT Association Conference: Announced upcoming training with Brent & Kyle ([177:18])
• Kyle’s Fellowship: Online men’s Christian group, with details on Blue Bearing Patreon ([177:18])

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8. Closing

The episode concludes with camaraderie and appreciation, multiple calls to reach out for help if struggling, and encouragement for listeners to stay connected, seek growth, and “be with” those in their fight. Both host and guest stress humility, lifelong learning, faith, and not being afraid to be vulnerable or ask for help, whether in combat or in life.

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Listen for:

• Raw, real, and unvarnished insights into the operator mindset — both the glory and the silent pain.
• Tactical Q&A: From funny mistakes to deep dives on CQB, weapons policy, and law enforcement entries.
• Authenticity: Both Kyle and Brent embody the blend of warrior tenacity with humility and heart.

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This episode is a must-listen for military enthusiasts, LEOs, those battling adversity, and anyone interested in the hard truths behind special operations brotherhood.

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Low on the 801. Sure. That's a unit of measure. Low on the 8.

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Well, what would be high on the 801?

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801. 59.

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Right. Okay. Okay. Welcome back.

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Probably me with all this.

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Apparently they know how to shoot guns, but not till time.

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Welcome back to a Tier one Live in disarray. I guess this is what happens when you add Kyle Morgan into the mix. Welcome to the show, brother. This is a unique. This is a unique one. We did a Tuesday Night Live just a couple nights ago. Now we have you here for a Thursday Night Live. Been looking forward to this one. I think the. I think the audience.

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Well, because you deleted our episode, I didn't do the live last time, so

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I was gonna say it, but he got it.

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I don't think Drew's gonna let it happen again.

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The Patreon hasn't let me forget. They don't let me forget that. They don't let me forget. Dude, I misspelled Green Beret on my very first episode. The Patreon. They may be my fans, but they're the best fans in the world. Or I won't call them supporters. They don't let me get away with nothing.

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And that's. That's who you guys are, right? Like you're supporters of the Tier one Patreon. That's awesome.

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Yeah, absolutely. And on the couch. Sorry. Back. Back on track as always. We have magnet from Lion Arms.

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Thank you. Drew. I'm here.

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You are welcome. Go ahead and Introduce yourself, if you don't mind.

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We'll.

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We'll talk to you also a little bit later.

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Yeah. My name is Jacob Bain, and I have a. I'm a Marine. Former Marine. And I have a beard and skincare line. Yeah, that's how I met you.

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That's right. Drew's looking to get FRCC into the beard and oil business.

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Oh, yeah.

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Not the beard and oil business. How about the beard? Or the bearded oil business? How am I. How am I having such a hard time with that? The beard oil.

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Well, I didn't know this, but there's a whole bearded community.

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It is large. There's many of us. There's tens of thousands of bearded gentlemen that are.

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I would. I wouldn't know.

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Well, hey, listen, you got something on that face of yours.

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You got a baby beard. Hey, I've said this publicly, but I don't grow facial hair here because I got a round face.

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May have been on a Between Two Guns episode, but I believe it was Phil. Was it. Phil Robertson said it best. There's only two types of people in this world that don't have beards. Children and women, and I am neither. That's. That's.

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That's my favorite beard line.

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Yeah, absolutely. And of course, rounding it out behind the computer, we have Drew making it all run with.

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With a beard.

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With a beard. All right.

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Magnificent.

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Drew, let's do. Sure. What do you got?

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All right, guys, it's gonna be a heavy super chat night tonight. You guys know how it was with Mike Glover on here, so we're gonna have to do. We're gonna. At this point, the rules may change on the second half, but in the first half, 10 and up super chats will be read. Anything under that is at your own risk.

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Not saying we won't get to them, but saying if decisions have to be made, I. We can't do another four hour live. That's.

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Well, Drew can.

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For the sake, start.

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Can I give you Drew, a gift? And I want to talk about.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. So give Drew a gift.

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Yeah.

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Not you, naturally. Naturally.

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No. So I. You. You already have yours. You're wearing one of them. Like, here's a gift for a blue bearing T shirt. But there's. These are a part of the. You know, obviously, the one that you're wearing is a part of the Voyager collection. It's only Patreon early access for blue bearing right now. All right, so somewhat exclusive, I guess.

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Yeah.

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But I love these shirts. The brand is awesome. The. They're more of a Comfort style tee.

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Yeah, it fits well.

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But Drew.

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Yes, sir.

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These are for you.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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And then that other shirt is Frontline Healing foundation, which I talked a little bit about. But yeah, it's the nonprofit that I'm on the board of. Don't get paid for it. It's a, it's a part of how I can continue to serve. And I have to vote on hardships for veterans, active duty military, law enforcement, first responders that are struggling with chemical dependency to get the life saving care that they need and they've reached some sort of financial hardship. So it's, it's a non profit that I believe in and I put my heart and soul into and it's. One of the things we did last year was this hope campaign. On the back you can see it spells out hope, but it's, there's words in this. There's words. So healing, giving light to get to hope.

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I love it. I absolutely love it. And I love that that you said that, that you don't even get paid to do it. Non profits is a funny thing. There are a lot of good non profits out there, without a doubt, I've seen them. But we've, we've just, we've been around long enough and we've seen other people go off and do things. We just, there are some non profits out there that are kind of just supporting themselves and there's just a lot of different hands in the jar and it just makes you wonder about the validity or the, the, you know, the integrity of it. Those are kind of harsh words, but it's kind of true. I mean if, if everyone's making six figure checks and you're bringing, and you're spending more money on your payroll than you're, than you're doing good, it seems like you're just, you, you, you are

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the beneficiary of the non profit, the non profit. You can, if you can justify it with the, the tax right, you know, the tax benefits from it, you know, not being taxed. But then you run it like a business and there's opportunities to, to, to be, to, to fraudulently, you know, get people's money and not, not being transparent about where it goes or to. Well, we're going to pay for this because it's something that we need now. It does, it does take money to raise money. And so we got to be willing

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to, it takes money to raise money. And there's one more point. It will reach a threshold for, for it to run someone's Going to have to work it for 40 hours a week. If you're going to work it for 40 hours a week, you should get paid about it. So I'm not that guy that's like, no one should get paid in a nonprofit. That's ridiculous. But they're, you know, they're.

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No, we have a paid position. It's the CEO, Jordan Jresky. And she, it's, it's her heart and soul, man. She lives and breathes it and she's the reason that it still exists. I'm trying to help with any influence that God's given me to be a good steward of. And you know, I actually hosted the, the 4th Annual Gala. Gala.

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Gotta say them both the same time.

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Yeah. If you say them both, you covered

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your bases because I don't know which one it is or your basses. I hosted it this year because I tried to get A.J. buckley to do it and he, he was gonna, and he had some family stuff come up. So I was like, all right, well I'll do it. And it was awesome. Got outside of my comfort zone a bit. But we were able to raise over 100 grand in San Antonio. And one more stat about this is transparency is huge with nonprofits. Last year we were able to give over 700,000 in financial hardships.

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Love it.

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Which is awesome. But we had to, we got $2.5 million dollars in applications. So we didn't, we weren't even able to give, you know, a third of or just a third of what we were getting. You know, not every application I have to read these. You have to write a narrative about why this is going to help you. You have to show. I have to look at your bank statements that you submit to see that you're actually in a financial hardship. And typically it's a VA claim gets denied or private health care only pays a certain portion. But it's a, it's a way I can give back. And it, and it. I haven't seen a non profit that casts such a broad net. So it's like I said, military, law enforcement, first responders. So it's not just special operations or just this. And I'm not knocking those non profits because I've benefited from that. Marriage has like all these things.

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Yeah.

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So it's just one way that I'm also serving.

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I, I know exactly what you're talking about. Because on a smaller scale, of course, of course FRCC has a, has a give back program. And it's, it's Robust compared to our size. And I don't. Don't get me wrong. Of course I remember the people that we. That we support, but the ones that they really remember are the requests that we have to say no to. Yeah. And those. Those hurt more than helping people. Feels good. So it almost feels like a. Almost ends up feeling like a negative to your soul, like, to some degree. Because it sucks saying no to people that, you know need help when you know they're good requests and you can't cover it all.

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And it's one of those. It's one of those things where in lieu of us being able to financially support someone, because that's the hardest thing I have to do is say no due to lack of funds. So, like, I'll read their narrative. And it's like, man, this guy. This guy or gal, like, really could benefit from this treatment. And it's predominantly to go to warrior's heart.

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Yeah.

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So which, if you're not familiar with, that's Tom Spooner and Josh and Lisa Landon started that. It's a residential treatment facility for primary diagnosis being chemical dependencies. And you guys have heard me talk about this like, I wouldn't have anything I have if it wasn't for my sobriety. Like, my sobriety is the most important thing that I can do to protect the greatest gift I've ever been given, which is my salvation. And not that I can lose my salvation, but it. Man, I can freaking mess this up. Yeah. Yeah.

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I'm a. Since you're talking about that, I was going to share.

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Imagine that.

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I was going to share a scripture, actually, but it's changing gears a little bit. Drew, you may or may not know this. Did you know the Bible got political?

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Really?

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Absolutely. Absolutely. And I'll never be able to unhear this and look at different sides of the political spectrum the same way, because God is. Has chosen. Let me tell you how God chose. Ecclesiastes 102 states, the heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

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Yep. Hey. Can't make this up.

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You. You going to tell me it's not biblical to lean right?

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That's right. Could I just say right now. Yeah.

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That was good.

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That this is the greatest discussion we could possibly have. We lean to the right. The right is the greatest. Just have to say he's the best. Go right. He's the best. It's the best thing to do. Thank you very much. Well done, Jacob.

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It was worth having to come over just for that. Yes.

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That was fantastic.

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All right, let's start. Let's get through a few super chats, and then. And then let's take it to. To Instagram.

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Started off just another 11. Bravo says beer money for the boys. Thanks again for the pan. Having fun with them. And we'll put a video on Insta.

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Said it before, but. But you may not know this. We gave away a set of panos to our patreon.

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I follow you.

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They were digital, but they're.

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I told you why I don't watch these.

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They were still four grand.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think that's awesome.

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It was. I hope.

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What am I doing on Thursday night? Normally?

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I don't know. Oh, oh, I do know. I do know. You have. You have a. You have a Bible study or a fellowship meeting that you do, and you pushed it for this.

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So tomorrow night? Yeah.

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Correct. But I'd like to say you replaced one fellowship with another is what I would like to do. That's right.

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That's right.

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Holy folk says, hey, Kyle, what do you think of Brent's toothpick chicken legs in comparison to yours in the unit, which is more common? Love you, Brent, but just asking for a friend.

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Drew, he's wearing skinny jeans. That's why his legs look so big. He's wearing skinny jeans.

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They're not skinny jeans. They're just in all the right places.

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His legs are so big. They look like skinny jeans. No.

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You can't even see my legs.

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No, I actually. I can't get past them triceps, man. You can try to walk on by, but you might get caught in a trap, which I don't have any of those right now.

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I don't call them triceps. I call them deuceps. I don't try to do nothing. That's a defeatist attitude. Mine are called doeps.

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That's a good point.

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Thank you.

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I think they're hilarious. And eventually he'll learn.

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I think they're hilarious.

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Answer your question.

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Never change.

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I thought when every combat diver I ever saw in the Q course as an instructor had tree trunk for legs. When I got to group all the dive guys tree trunk for legs, I was like, I can't wait to go to dive school. I will get issued thick legs.

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Thick boy.

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Did not get him. I did not get them. It hurt my heart.

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But there is no, like, mold to the. Where we used to work as far as.

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Yeah.

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The biggest thing is don't slow the group down.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Stay with the group.

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Yeah. Don't slow the group down. With your big old legs.

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Well, dude, like a funny story was I could have said this earlier, you know, in otc, I failed the first Uber.

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I remember that.

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Yeah. And it was. It was very humbling to fail something that when you're like, oh, my God, this is going to be why I get cut. And they just straight up told me, they're like, kyle, we get it, you're strong, but you need to run, bud.

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Yeah.

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And all I did after that. I don't know if you remember, but, like, I just ran. There were some people that ran, were good runner. Great runners, and they love running in our class. And all I did was run. And that was the first time I had in a long time gotten my PT time to, like, a 1220 on that. On that second PT test we took, crushed the EBR on the next one. But it's one of those things where, like, functional fitness is most important, and if I can't get my body weight up and over something or. And repeat that or get my heart rate up and down and up and down, then I'm going to slow the group down and I'm going to be a liability.

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So if I remember right, one of the things on that run, though, that didn't help you is because your legs are so, so thick.

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Yeah.

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The friction caught your shorts on fire.

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It did.

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And you came in with basically no shorts. And that slowed you down a little

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bit too well because I was embarrassed. Don't look at me.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It's cold.

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It's cold, y'.

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All.

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Kyle's on fire. Yeah, he's doing good. No, he's on fire.

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No, but then do you remember this? You probably don't remember this because you didn't care about me, but he's is. I got, like, the second fastest oak horse time.

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I do not remember that, actually.

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It's like nine something. Whatever.

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Well, when. When you're the first one, you don't care who the second one is. But I'm. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. You almost got me.

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All right.

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No, I never.

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Who?

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Who?

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Okay.

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Who?

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I can't.

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Who? Who? Who? Who?

[B]

But now I know you can't. You can't answer me, so remind me to tell me. I'm sure you know who. Who first.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay. That is impressive. That is a formidable O course.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Holy fook says. Hey, Kyle, how. What did Brent tell you when they couldn't find the original recorded podcast? And what was your first real. That went through your head? The world wants to know, I was

[B]

like, brent's an idiot.

[A]

Wasting my time for one excellent question. I was like, man, I went all the way down there to do his podcast to try to help him start this thing and get it going because I believe in it. You know, the tier one asset, all the things we talked about and that he's just gonna slap me in the face and delete the podcast. My brain was like, cannot compute. But then I remembered I also stayed in this man's house for a night. And I was like, where is he? He's not even here. No, dude, I know you're busy, man. And as soon as you told me that, I was like, oh, man. And that's when I was like, hey, maybe Starship can help. And I know you tried everything.

[B]

I tried everything.

[A]

I, but I was disappointed to answer the question because it was a great conversation, but it's something that we just talked about. You, me, and Drew, man. It's one of those things where maybe the message that we had to deliver back then wasn't going to be as impactful as this one. And I don't know if we would have done this in like we just did today, you know, almost, look, eight months later. Yeah, we would probably done something again in the future. But yeah, you know, this is, I don't really obsess about the past. The past is the past. That's what you do with it.

[B]

I only tell you this now. Just pull back the curtain a little bit. I was so, I was so worried about disappointing you. I am. This is. I almost called because it's not the fact you think about these things. Everyone's human. They think about it. It's if you act on them or not. I, I had started to talk myself into. Okay, well, just, just tell him the file was corrupted and he get, and he can't get mad about that. We'll just, you know, just, you just have to be mad at, at electronics about that. And I started going down these roads of. All right, how can I soften this? And I was like, no, no, you have to, you have to tell Kyle.

[A]

Well, dude, when you told me that you were, you're editing it, I was like, man, because I watch Starship.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like, it's, it's like its own full time job, you know, so there's grace for it, man. I, I, I say I was disappointed. I was, I was excited about, you know, the two between two guns. You got to demo with me. Pilot.

[B]

Yeah, that one we at least got out, but.

[A]

And then you know, the conversation. But I couldn't even tell you, like, what we talked about. It was very chronological, which. Which I think is how this one was going to start to go. But I think we just kind of rolled with the conversation and there was no real chronological order to it, so.

[B]

But it was going good, so I didn't. There's no reason to stop it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it was authentic.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

All right, Drew, what else we got?

[C]

Kyle? Bigfoot or UFOs? Any stories and do you believe?

[B]

Every week with a guest, every week.

[A]

What do you say?

[C]

Bigfoot or UFOs? Do you believe?

[A]

No, Neither.

[B]

Me neither. Me neither. Let's go down this just for a second, in case this is their first time listening to this. A Bigfoot has to die eventually. It just has to. And you're telling me we've never recovered Bigfoot bones? We live in a world where everyone now has a high powered phone camera and their phone in their pocket. And you're telling me no one can get another picture of that blurry thing walking? Which if I know it was, wind up being proven as a hoax. And I have the same thing about aliens. Like you're gonna have to give me better proof than what we got. I'm sorry. I need proof of. Of something. Jacob, it looks like you. Looks like there's something you want to say here.

[C]

Demons, man. They've got to be demons.

[B]

That's what. That's what. That's what.

[C]

How does Sasquatch disappear in the middle of nowhere after somebody sees him?

[B]

That's what. Right? That's what Mike Glover said about aliens.

[C]

Yeah, same.

[A]

I've heard.

[B]

Spiritual. Spiritual beings, angels and demons. I'm like, I can. I can. I can at least buy that and get behind that a little bit.

[C]

Someone gets abducted by aliens, they call the name of Jesus and they're. It ends and they're back in their bed. That's true. How does that happen? There's a lot of those. Has to be demons.

[B]

There's a lot of them, Drew.

[C]

Yeah. There's a number of them, yeah.

[B]

Are you secretly into the dozens researching aliens without me knowing about it?

[C]

Yeah. As a pastor is one of the things I had to look into.

[B]

Is it?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I think you know a brother.

[C]

Well, I don't know what you did on the other side of the world. All right. Holy fook again, Kyle. Have you and Christian Craighead ever sat and talked about your experiences and Mali and Kenya for your respective events? If not, would you?

[B]

That's a good question, actually.

[A]

Yeah. I. I got to meet Christian Craighead, I think shortly after he had responded to the. The Kenya, the Nairobi, the. I think it was not dust one, but the hotel attack. And it was very. You know, we were introduced by someone else and I was still active. And, you know, he was dealing with a lot of, like, what is he going to do about talking about it? Or, you know, just a little bit of the backlash from the. His unit. And that culture is different and not that it's that different, but yeah, there's a lot of parallels with, you know, Christian being in the right place at the right time. And just like, I was where, you know, and I don't know enough about that story from him. I just respect him for believing he was the right person.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And which is the biggest difference is, like, if you're in the right place at the right time, are you the right person? And I think training is critical. Operational experience will help, Will help that. But courage is contagious, and the courage of some, a few is what makes all the difference in all these situations.

[B]

I'm a. I'm gonna ask you what might be.

[A]

But I would like to do something with him in the future now that he's kind of moved back. Moved. I think he's moved to the States. And yeah, we're.

[B]

We're in. I wouldn't say, like, constant, but we're in communication with him. Maybe when he comes. Comes down here, you can come down, crash the party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think you said right time, right place, but you were dealing with that for a little bit. It's, you know, it's still. It's a lot to ask for, you know, for someone to. To experience at times. Do you ever feel. When you were dealing with the. The aftermath of that, do you ever felt like you were at the wrong place at the wrong time? You ever feel like, why me? Like, why. Why did I respond to that? Why? Why did I. Why me? Or whatever was it. Did you view it as a negative thing or as a necessary evil?

[A]

It took a while for me to. To view that as a negative thing, but absolutely, yeah. Because the real hard hardship for me was the days after not having ways to cope with, you know, the physical, the psychological, the spiritual trauma. And. And I'm not a. I'm not. You know what? It exposed me in so many ways because I thought I was better than I actually am. And we are great. Like, collectively, we are great. Yeah. And that's. That's the thing. And I didn't go into this like nose up. It was just.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Babe. Erica. Erica. But it took a long time for me to. To. And a lot of it was with man. What a blessing to be able to. To be married for 21 years to her. To Erica. And, you know, I gave her every reason under the sun to. To run man and run far. And she. To. Even from afar. She chose to not forget about the. The man that she married and that she loves and that she actually led me to the greatest blessing, which is accountability.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And my. My eternity. She led me to Christ and where I pushed her away. I used to make fun of her religion. I said, I don't need your God. Where's your God? And I would rip up the scriptures she would, like, stash in my stuff. And I'm like, I don't need this right now. Because I couldn't trust anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and let alone myself. And a lot of it. I use the Radisson as a. As an analogy of like, if I were a dry bushel. That was just the spark. But the real. The real challenge was the day after and the day after and the day after. Almost three and a half months by myself just unraveling, you know, on, you know, things that just weren't healthy ways to cope. I needed to get out of there, man. And it only got worse.

[B]

You know, this is just to be

[A]

with glimpses of hope again.

[B]

We've talked about this before. But to tell it everyone else because I made the mistake and maybe someone else won't make the same mistake. When I watched your Sean Ryan episode, that's really when I learned about most of the things you did. I mean, of course I knew about it when it happened. And when it happened, I was like, good on cow. Went out and got some and then just went on. Went on with my day. I knew it was a big thing. The whole unit knew it was a big thing. But it's almost embarrassing to hear your story, to be an OTC classmate of mine, which makes us, to some degree best friends forever. You know. And then to hear your story. And I thought to myself. And you never thought about picking up the phone and calling Kyle and see how he's doing? Like, what a. What a horrible thing. You know, and none of us did it. And it's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I've talked to some other guys about this. I don't. That. That I haven't told you of. Of our OTC classmates. And we all feel horrible about it. You know, it just. It just sucks. We. We. We couldn't Fathom what was going on. We didn't know better. But the fact is, why don't you just pick up the phone and call a friend? Like that's. We had. We could easily got a hold of. Of. Of your number, you know, where. Where you were at. So that one. That one tore me up.

[A]

It.

[B]

It really did. And we. And we failed you as friends, to be honest with you.

[C]

On.

[B]

On that one too. And I just wanted to say that

[A]

out loud to everyone, but it's the cigar smoke. I'm not crying, man. I really appreciate you saying that, brother, but you don't. You don't have to, and none of y' all do. The fact is, is, like, we were. We were selected, trained, developed to. To be empowered to do that. That very thing. And if anything, that's come from that, like, me being vocal. And I can't hide behind an arrest or two or three. Like, it's one of those. I tried, but it's one of those things that, like, it's a very. I do think that because of the way that I dealt with that situation the days after moving out, right when I got back, trying to start a new life. Freaking Bamako rules in the United States don't really apply. And couldn't even pay my bills on time. Erica had to freaking get me an apartment. But I'm just. And I viewed it as a dungeon. And I just wanted my family. I pushed them away because I was like, I don't. I don't feel good about anything, especially myself. I couldn't look in the mirror without looking down. But a lot of those things, man, like, as vocal as I was, it really didn't become vocal until a lot of the damage was already done. But what do you prioritize? I wanted to be the best operator I could be in that unit. And it was such an honor to be able to do that. Like, suffering in silence was a real thing. And that's when the mask. Because I am very animated and guys know when I'm anything is wrong because I'm not smiling. Yeah. And right away, the guys that are close to me, because that's the other thing is, like, you guys were independent, just like we were independent. Like, we had our own cycle cycles. And it was just, you know, I'd see you in the hallway occasionally, but then they would be like, see ya. So, like, I don't. At the end of the day, like, I. It was a level of maturity that I hadn't been faced with experiencing. To look inward and express outward.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I didn't know what I didn't know either. Just like the unit didn't. Just like you didn't. And they gave me every opportunity to try to heal and. And while still being operational. And I'm very grateful for all those things, man, and for you saying what you just did that means the world to me, because. But, God, here we are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, here we are. And we're able to do this publicly with the platform that you've been blessed with and that you're building your community, being as. As loyal as they are. And you guys let me in. Into that.

[B]

Well, thankfully, life didn't end there, and you're. You're at a place that. That you're at now. And if that's what it took, then that's what it took. God has a plan for sure.

[A]

It's not mine.

[B]

It's his good thing. It's not ours. We're.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really bad.

[A]

Yeah. I tried every other way to mess this up now. I just tried my best to get myself out of the way.

[B]

Ye.

[A]

Let Jesus take the wheel.

[B]

Yeah. It's not easy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What else we got, Drew?

[C]

Kyle, what's one thing you miss about the conventional army that wasn't present in the green gray? Or.

[B]

That's actually a good question because it's always asked the opposite. You know, what was better about the next level than the first level?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What is something you miss about the conventional army? And if anyone doesn't know, he was in the 82nd before he was a Green Beret.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's something you miss about the 82nd?

[A]

Nothing. Nothing.

[B]

Nothing.

[A]

No, dude, I. I love the.

[B]

The barracks. Yeah, dude, you. I know you got some barrack stories, dude.

[A]

Just hitting each other with hot mops every freaking night. Everybody smoked, like, cigarettes, man. You could smoke in the barracks back then. I don't miss this, by the way. This is actually something I despise.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was I actually picked up smoking because I'm. I'm a conformist. I used to be. I just want to fit in, man.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I just want to be liked, and I don't want to be yelled at and all these things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And my roommate smoked. It's marble reds. I was like, let me get one

[B]

of those cowboy killers.

[A]

I'm, like, 18 years old. Can't buy alcohol.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But of course we're drinking in the.

[B]

But you can get it. Can't buy it, but you can get it.

[A]

Yeah. And then. Yeah. The barracks, though, I think, is, to be honest, like, I. The field training Exercises too. Like as, as crappy as they were. I mean you got to think our train up for Iraq in 03 was enter and clear a trench man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So clear one mind water obstacle. So banging torpedoes and just like, you

[B]

know what's so funny about that?

[A]

Crazy dude. They're clear by fire throwing live fragon aids. I'm 18 year old Kyle. Just like Roger, dad,

[B]

this isn't World War II. What are we doing? How is that.

[A]

We figured that out pretty quick when we got to Iraq and we're like nobody knows what's going on, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I do think there's an element of being a part of an infantry platoon and if you, if you're blessed with it, a company that's just led by like warriors. Yeah. And I had elements of that, you know, periodically with some very bad leaders kind of sprinkled in. I think we all do.

[B]

But like makes you appreciate the good ones, doesn't it?

[A]

When you got a first start that's just like freaking someone you want to chase. Dude. I think that's a really cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I always wanted to be that. Not a. Not a first sergeant but like that leader that everybody wants to chase because I had all those guys to chase.

[B]

I know you spent some time in the infantry because the first time you said it says first sergeant first launch. I. I can't even screw it up.

[A]

Hey, sorry.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, there you go. Just no g. Just skip right over it.

[A]

I can't find my rifle song. I got fireworks. Had.

[B]

Have you like in. In a selection. And I'll take. I'll tell you this story actually happened to me once. But hold on. It's not that bad. Have. Did you ever forget your weapon? Not even at a point. Had to go back and get it type thing.

[A]

No, but I watched it happen.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And I think those, those are just as bad.

[B]

Nothing worse.

[A]

Yeah, I see it and I'm like, oh, I got it too. I got it on me.

[B]

When you're at a land running in the middle of the woods and you see someone's weapon leaned against a tree all by itself, you know there is a poor candidate out there somewhere without his weapon that is probably not going to get selected over the stupid thing and you're like, man, I hope I. I ain't got time to carry two weapons. But I hope he finds that weapon. It's. It's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking. So I'll tell you how I lost my weapon once.

[A]

Now the draw is taking my weapon a couple times.

[B]

He had to fight it.

[A]

But I went and got it back

[B]

at sfas Special Forces assessment and Selection, we got. We were doing some sort of night land. Land nav. And everyone was sleeping out in the. Not. Not back in the bunks for whatever reason. But we were. It was. Yeah, we were bivouacking, and in the middle of the night, they all came and woke us up, and they were going to go make us do an event. And when they woke us up in the middle of the night, I couldn't find my weapon. Couldn't find it. And they all had to sit in a formation. And what happened was.

[A]

What happened?

[B]

What had happened was the guy next to me woke up in the middle of the night, startled, just like me. And his weapon was the left. Mine was to the right. He rolled over to the right, grabbed a weapon, and left. And then it became a. This game of who has whose weapon. Because everyone was grabbing the once. It kind of happens once or twice or three times. Now everyone's just grabbing a weapon. It was just a free for all.

[A]

Just no thieves in the military.

[B]

There's no thieves in the military. What are there?

[A]

Everybody's just trying to get.

[B]

Everyone's just trying to get their stuff back. And I was like. And I was the one left with nothing. But luckily the candidates. Oh, the candidates. The. The instructors knew that, like, you're an idiot. Here's your weapon. And nothing was held against me, but I was scared to death for about 20 minutes until that got sorted out.

[C]

You're probably bad at musical chairs too.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Just catching strays.

[A]

Drew. Stray Voltage.

[B]

Yeah, Drew's on one tonight.

[C]

It just comes naturally when you're a brother, I guess.

[B]

Jacob, what do you got?

[C]

Yeah, we had a story about that at Camp Geiger doing night Land Nav. And a panther was stalking some of the guys during night course while we were trying to find our control points. And this dude dropped his rifle and ran. But there was a panther.

[B]

You're going to want that.

[C]

There was. There was a panther stalking us. It was hilarious. This guy just bolted.

[B]

Oh, there. So big difference between a cougar stalking in a panther. Oh, yeah. All right.

[A]

Coward. Sorry.

[C]

So you forgot run from both. You forgot your firearm twice.

[B]

What are you talking about? In the bathroom. Don't bring that up.

[A]

Oh, I do have a funny one, though.

[B]

What?

[A]

I can't believe I'm gonna say this.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But I'll say it because I. I love y'. All.

[B]

Don't worry. I could match it with an embarrassing story. I'm sure.

[A]

So I. I would carry. We do these shuras, right? These, like, this is in Afghanistan. And we would. We'd want to lower our posture and not be like all kitted up.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So we'd have like an outer security. And then a couple of us are, you know, that are going in, are just pistol armed.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

With just, you know, multicams on.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So I would sling my fanny pack. And this was like 2009, 10. And I think before fanny packs were cool and which I am a believer in what I do have one. Okay. For my everyday carry stuff when I want to.

[C]

Whatever.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Anyways, I'll bust it out right now if you want. We got that thing on me, dude.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But this time. What's so funny?

[B]

You're funny. Keep going. Before fanny packs are cool.

[C]

That's what it's.

[A]

Let me tell my story.

[B]

Fanny Pax. I want to hear the story. Stop it. Okay.

[C]

We're interested in the story.

[A]

You just lost me at fanny pack.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[A]

You're like.

[C]

He's like a mini Joe Rogan.

[A]

I was wondering how long it was going to take for me to get up and walk.

[B]

Now I can't stop laughing.

[A]

All right, I'm not telling the story now. This is embarrassing. So I had to take a crap, man. And they have, you know, this is like the. The provincial center.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's got all the nice bathrooms.

[B]

Yeah. This is an away game. You're not home. This is a hole in the ground, Right.

[A]

With a door. It closes, you know, behind you. But I'm like, okay, what's that?

[C]

I thought you went to the bathroom.

[A]

Of course I did. I don't want to get caught. My pants down.

[C]

Right? There you go.

[A]

So the problem is, is I pulled the pistol out to set it because I, you know, you're a little vulnerable there.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Right. So when I did that, I was also like undoing my pants and I dropped that thing. Guess where it went.

[B]

In the hole.

[A]

In the hole. No, the gun gone. Yeah. My pistol went into the pooper. And that's probably why I've lost like 15 years of my life getting that thing back.

[B]

No. Yeah, that's a.

[A]

Didn't tell a soul until now. No.

[B]

Yeah, that's understandable.

[A]

I cleaned that thing up as best I could. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, man. Yeah, I am sorry.

[A]

No, I just gave it to the junior. Bravo. I was like, hey, can you clean this?

[C]

Dude,

[B]

you gotta turn that one in. Just gotta turn that one in.

[C]

That's a crappy job. All right, so what Kind. Pistol.

[A]

Was it the Beretta? Oh, it deserved it.

[C]

It's all right.

[A]

We weren't. We weren't issued the Glocks until like later on. Yeah.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

In Special Forces anyways. Unless you're on a CF Company.

[B]

I. Yeah, I don't.

[A]

It happened, I think when they did the.

[B]

Right around that time. But yeah, some did, some didn't.

[A]

Y.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Y.

[B]

Thank you for being vulnerable.

[A]

You're welcome.

[C]

All right. Seal Team 6 guys told Matt Cole Seal Team 6 did war crimes. Seal Eric Deming said 10% seals bad and have leadership roles. Did this cause problems with Delta?

[B]

Let you digest that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And scroll back up.

[A]

Is it that top one?

[C]

Yeah, this one right here.

[A]

I don't know who Matt Cole is.

[B]

He wrote. He was the author of the. The. The Crimes of. Of Seal Team 6.

[A]

Is that like a journal article or something?

[B]

Yeah, and other. Other people picked it up, but yeah. I don't know why he's getting sued. He also told the world that Rob o' Neal didn't. Wasn't the sole shooter of Bin Laden, but apparently it hurt his feelings when

[A]

I d. Ro no one Never heard of her.

[C]

Ego, huh?

[A]

No, I. Man, I don't know how to speak to that. I first of all, was never in Seal Team 6. But the question was.

[B]

The question was about did this cause problems in Delta.

[A]

I mean, if we're not looking inward, like more than we think as far as institutionally for. For. Because the. For one, like pride is the. Is a recipe for disaster with any organization. Individual pride, ego. But outside. Also illegal. More unethical.

[C]

Like.

[A]

It's one of those things where I never experienced that in. In the squadron I was in. And the way that the unit handles business, man, I don't. On the battlefield, I just don't.

[B]

Yeah. The unit's most professional organization I've ever been a part of, and they protect that with a tenacity.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And that's why I'm not saying we're perfect. I'm not saying there's never. But there's a reason why no one's ever written an article called War Crimes of the Delta Force is because it's not. It's. It's not an issue. We police our own. So no two different squadrons represented here. And neither one of us saw those types of those types.

[A]

Remember, I came from the Ranger squadron, so it was a bunch of jerks.

[B]

A bunch of jerks. Yeah.

[A]

People won't get it.

[C]

Christian is Obi Wan, Nairobi. Does that mean you're Kyle, not cleared for this.

[B]

Morgan, not clear. I wasn't cleared for this.

[C]

How does it feel that Brent loves you so much? You visited twice.

[A]

Not cleared for this. What does that mean?

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I think. I think you've said, like, I'm not cleared for this. I just. I just. I had. I just did it.

[A]

Oh, yeah, because looking for approval.

[B]

Already have it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So that goes back to the empowerment piece, and that's where, if anyone had empowerment, and this isn't. Look at me, Kyle, it's the organization that we work for and what they do and how they develop and how they hold each other accountable. So that way when they send you out, you know, on whatever mission, you know, you have the empowerment where I didn't actually call my direct command until I got out of the building the first time, pulling the one guy out of the room on fire.

[B]

Here's something else. I don't think I really, really coming back twice.

[A]

It's because I love him.

[B]

I did a Jordan rotation not too long after that. They were asking me questions about, hey, just so we know, if such and such happens, like, what does it. What does it take you for approval to get out the door and. And to react to this? And I said, I'm here. I have the approval.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're like, but no, like, but who do you have to call? I'm here. I have the approval. But I would have believed that anyway, or it would have been an espoused value, if you will. But after your incident, I don't know

[A]

what that word means, but I just

[B]

went, yeah, okay, but. But after your incident, like, it. It gave everyone. It's like, before, it was something we thought we could do and guys, like, would have done it, but maybe in the back of their mind, like, I don't know. I mean, I think I can do it and I'm going to do it and just hope everything works out. As far as being in trouble for possibly getting in trouble for not getting clearance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But after you did what you did and the unit was like, yeah, that's. That's. That's what the boys are supposed to do. It gave everyone the confidence all over the world that that's. We thought we could do this. Now we know we can do this.

[A]

Yeah. It's one of those things. There wasn't a doubt in my mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I said this on Sean's show, like, those are tomorrow problems, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm, like, legitimately, I'm in the right place at the right Time. And I am the right person that has the confidence to. To move in and to destroy the enemy, but to safeguard innocent life. That's the why. Yeah, I can endure that. I've been challenged operationally and trained for, and I didn't need to. To ask anybody to do it because I knew I could go in and save at least one person, and that was all I needed. Yeah. And then I just kept going back in. But when I did call, they were like, tracking what you need. And I was like, at that point, I didn't. The second time I called, the first time, they were like, tracking. Just keep us posted when you can. Yeah. And then when I came back out, the next time is when I encountered the shooters in the stairwell and when. And I was like, hey, I. I can't finish this alone. Like, I need my boys, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And luckily, by the. By the grace of God, the French Tier 1 unit in the neighboring country, and one of my old teammates was embedded with them. Got over there around noon, around 12:30 or so, and we were able to finish it with them, integrating with them, and they took a couple casualties, but, yeah, it was a very humbling experience. But the. The point, the biggest example that I got to see firsthand was, you know, one of the other warriors, man, that was with me, that was behind me every. Every step, a MARSOT guy, and the rest of them, 100. It was a. It wasn't just a solo. It wasn't a solo response. That's a lot of people don't understand. I was solo as far as from my organization.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I have been trained in building teams on the fly, and a lot of the small unit exchanges we do and stuff really helped reinforce that. But I saw that that seed of doubt was getting planted in that MARSOC guy because he was getting hit up every five minutes on his cell phone. And. And then it was just. I was just like, snap out of it, man. I need you here.

[B]

It's. It's almost a rhetorical question, and this question, and you'll know this, but you also know from being behind the mic that you have to say things like this sometimes to preface it. This isn't a derogatory statement towards anyone else. It's a pro statement to. For the organization that we came from. I mean, how much different. You weren't there by yourself. You had other people. But how much different would it have been if you were there with your boys?

[A]

Yeah, they've been over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's where I. I realized very, very quickly that. Well, not very quickly. It helped me make sense of things over time, of where I was so exposed that I. Man, I don't know why I'm afraid. Rounding this corner. What is going on? I've never felt this.

[B]

Where'd my confidence go? Like, my confidence was in my teammates. Yes. That's the.

[A]

That's the point. And that's not. God bless the guys that went in with me, but, like, it's not my team.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, you know, there's a lot of things, because I. I dissected this thing pretty. I went back in several times with the FBI days later and put a suit on again. And we're just kicking around, like, trying to. I'm with them, trying to make sense of what happened.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because a lot of things just didn't make sense, but I just. I felt, like, wrecked.

[B]

When you went back there in a suit, did everything look the way you remembered it or now that. Now that. Now that your. Your heart rate isn't what it is and you're not processing everything so fast, did things look foreign to you and be like, I actually don't remember it looking like this, or did everything look very familiar to you?

[A]

It looked different. No, the smoke was gone. The lights were.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Back on for the most part. The smells were still kind of there. The smells are really bad. But the stains, the blood stains and everything were there. And I can just remember the. The people that were there, you know, in those positions, and just how they had no chance in the world

[B]

if

[A]

they couldn't recite the Quran. They were being executed.

[B]

Unbelievable. No, Very believable, actually. How dare I say unbelievable, actually. Very believable. That's what. That's what that religion does. What else we got, Drew?

[C]

All right. At an hour, four and three seconds in, Matt Cole team house talk. SEAL Team six told him some SEAL Team six would bring terrorist into room. He was given an offer. Beat a SEAL Team 6 guy in a fight and you can go. But terrorists wouldn't win because other SEAL Team 6 would watch. Pow. Then killed in rigged fight.

[B]

You know, I've. I. I have read a lot of those stories. That's like. I don't remember that one. I'll. I'll say this because I'm more familiar with the Matt Cole, you know, journalism. And he is. It is surprising to me. He spent a lot of time in Virginia beach talking to SEALs and, and getting a network. And the things he said. I'm like, yeah, this. He's someone. He's. He's getting the Right. People to talk to him. So even though I've never heard that story, that would. That would be crazy to me if that happened. But Matt Cole's journalism's been pretty good. So I kind of have to sit this one out because I don't know. But I will say Matt Cole. Matt Cole has done a good job of. Of dual sourcing things before he says things. So. Yeah, that's that one.

[C]

David Hookstead in the house of Delta Four SEAL Team Six debate is four fun. But let's put it in action. Paintball tournament or Sims Round tournament of the retired guys as a fundraiser for charity. Fun time. And it would be for a great cause. Who's in?

[B]

I always thought something like that, like a.

[A]

About this is.

[B]

He is. He's a shooting competition. Like something we could figure out. Something that isn't a golf tournament. Blue gray golf tournament. That's that we could raise a lot of money for. For a good cause. I just don't know exactly.

[A]

I think it's possible to do something. It would have to be for some sort of good cause. It's just not about ego. Of course. Competition is fun.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But in the spirit of raising, you know, money for the appropriate organizations would be something I would get behind. Maybe Frontline Healing Foundation. I don't know. But it's. How to quantify it. You know, like people are like, who's better at cqb? Like, how do you quantify that? Like, there'd have to be some very strict parameters on how to measure it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

One big one is shot placement, overall time. But then how do you track if improper sectors and cutting corners. Because then you're turning it into a game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The competition side of it. So.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See what you mean.

[A]

It's possible. Make it happen. David.

[C]

Sean Ryan admits to trafficking drugs since they destroy innocent people. Does this make him a bad person? Should he get prison time?

[B]

So I mean, he's. He's admitted this, that. That while he was down in South America, he, he had. He had. He had done that. No, he shouldn't do prison time. He didn't. He didn't get caught. He admitted it because he's a different person. I'll throw it back at you. Then you're basically. Now we're. He didn't. He didn't murder anyone. That would be a little bit different. And now we're going to punish people for being honest about being fallible people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I mean, having, having drugs is illegal. So that means if you had drugs five years ago, should you be arrested now? Like, of course not. Just because you've admitted fault. Should we arrest someone for that? No. In fact it should be applauded. As long as you've changed, forgiven, and, and then have that person supported that they're on a different path.

[A]

I think that's one of the greatest blessings that we can give is how we even our, our law enforcement. So like you can even putting people in cuffs, man, like how you do that can make a life changing impact. Instead of us focusing on the past, the past is the past. The past is meant to, to be this rear view mirror. If we're driving forward and we're staring at that rearview mirror, what are we gonna do? Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna crash. How we crash and how catastrophic that is just depends on. The past is meant to inform our decisions based on lessons learned. But we plan for the future and we live in the present. And I think to not get arrested for my drug use, to get medically put into a hospital, had to get narcanned and then released without any arrest. And then the unit pulled me in and said, hey, we're going to get you the help you need. Still wasn't enough. We talked about this earlier on the podcast. Like I had to, I had a massive character, character defect that still needed to come to the light. But I could have got away with it, you know, lying, lying by omission and then lying straight to my direct supervisor about a dui that I wanted to preserve my retirement and I didn't tell anybody.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then completely unraveled a very short lived exposure to cocaine and strip clubs in Austin, Texas because I just was miserable, man. I, I, this isn't justification because I'm done justifying my behavior. It's, it's, it's ownership and then doing something with it. But I couldn't deal with people. So I went to a place where I didn't have to deal with people. Not to objectify women, but that's what I was doing. I was a very different person than I am now. I'm not a, I'm not like, like this 180 degree out. There's the elements of me even in all the dark times, that was still there. That's why Erica never let go completely. But my point is, is that even when I got arrested, dude, the parts, the, the, initially when I started this company, like I had a heart for wanting to help law enforcement and I still do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's less about shame about what they had to Deal with me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And drunken stupors. And I'm lucky that I never got killed by him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's. It's one of those things where I got away with a lot. That first arrest, voluntarily dismissed, expunged off my record. The next arrest was a DUI that I. That I pled guilty to, and I did my time is the way I viewed it. Right. Abstaining from alcohol for everyone else thought it was for me, but it was really just so I can go back to being the best operator I could be. And not until this last thing that came up because of an inquiry into a security clearance, or not an inquiry, whatever they call those. And I was confronted by my direct supervisor about this, and he. He said, hey, security just said that there's a DUI that came up in July of last year. This is in 2022, like, January, February. And I'm. Mind you, I'm supposed to sign it on terminal leave, April 1st. And I was like. There was a pause. I could have been like, yeah, I just didn't tell anybody. And I didn't. He then said, was that the DUI that. That you talked about, you know, two years ago, two and a half years ago? And I was like, yeah, it must be.

[B]

Can we talk about this in April?

[A]

Yeah. And, man, I. I obviously knew that was wrong, and I drove over to his house that night and told him, like, hey, man, I lied straight to you about that, and I came clean. But my point with that is, had that not happened, like, the unit was going to let me retire from the unit, even after the overdose, and instead, I could have got away with something that became. That came into the light, and that allowed me to truly be sitting here right now. And they moved me to Usasak to retire from. Administratively, from. From usasak. No. So. And they didn't change my terminal leave date. My retirement order still looked the exact same.

[B]

But that's.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's the reason why you don't give up on your friends. That's why you don't. That's why you don't give up on the people you love.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, there. There are such a thing as second chances, sometimes third chances.

[A]

So that was a long answer, too. But his point was, is like, why would we punish someone for. For. For telling the world about something?

[B]

The truth.

[A]

The truth. Yeah. And taking ownership is. Is to have remorse, but to. To. To be. To take ownership, to grow, to be a man. Yeah.

[B]

What do you got?

[A]

And when Sean was doing that, wasn't that in Colombia?

[B]

It was. So how would they arrest him over there anyway? Yeah. Are the Colombians gonna come here and arrest Sean? I don't think so.

[A]

Doing it in Miami.

[B]

Right? That's. Yeah, that's a good point. We're right up against a break. But before we do, I wanted to give you something. I actually want to give you two things. See here some creatine from Tasty gains I got on creatine. Both. It helps with my. My mental. My mental focus and. And my recovery. Like I said, I'm doing a 30 day challenge and there's no way I'm trying to get back in the shape and not taking creatine. It's one of the few tried true supplements that we all know work.

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I've tried these before too. They're great.

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Yeah, they did.

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I don't know why they misspelled wait.

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[C]

Let's go.

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Oh, boy.

[C]

Did he get one before?

[B]

No, I did not give him one. On the recording.

[A]

Make sure he didn't get. No, I didn't get one before. Oh, but we don't know because you deleted the podcast, so I definitely got one. One. I definitely got one.

[B]

Now give me the knife back.

[A]

No.

[B]

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You can't give it. Take it back. It's the worst kind of gift giver.

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[B]

Where's Kyle?

[A]

Hold on.

[C]

Maybe he got up. Oh, I think he's playing with his knife.

[B]

Magnet. What do you got, man? He'll be right back.

[C]

Oh, man. So today the.

[A]

The orders for the tactical hot dog

[C]

shirts did go out. Everybody got tracking.

[B]

Nice.

[C]

So thanks, everybody, for, you know, picking those up.

[B]

Magnet.

[C]

Magnus, see the shirt? Get ready. Put that booty right there on the camera. There it is right there. Yeah. Tactical hot dog.

[B]

Hey, the USA plays Turkey tonight at 10:00pm Correct.

[C]

Yeah, I heard.

[B]

All right. You still going two nothing on that one. Magnet.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

You're not incred. Not increasing 4 up up to 4 nil. Not giving Turkey a secret goal.

[A]

That's a new China.

[B]

I know. It'd be awesome. I can't. The. This one. I hate to say it. We're probably gonna stay on schedule tonight because I want to watch that game. I want to watch that game.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

People asked me what I was doing

[A]

tonight, and I was like, well, I

[B]

got live tonight, so I'm. I'm going to.

[C]

What's your score on that one?

[B]

I went three one, and I'm. And I'm. I'm sticking on that. And I. And I believe that one goal is like a lucky goal that they shouldn't have got. They just. That USA actually accidentally. No, we don't do that. Although on the last two games, the both other coachers have done that for. For one goal. Have scored an own goal. Yeah.

[C]

Welcome back, Kyle.

[B]

I'll. I'll. I'll.

[A]

Hello? Hello. I'll.

[B]

I'll probably embarrass Devon. Are we back on? Yeah. By telling you this joke.

[A]

Are you talking to me?

[B]

Yeah. Do you know how. Do you know how cats like their steaks?

[A]

No. Oh, that's a dad joke. That is good. I'm gonna use that.

[B]

This is what happens. You're not back in time, and I gotta think of something to fill, and I don't know.

[C]

That's.

[B]

And that's. That's. That's what it was.

[C]

It's not.

[A]

You didn't tell me. When we got up. You didn't tell me.

[B]

No, I know.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's alive.

[A]

Intermission.

[B]

It's alive. We've.

[C]

And you.

[B]

We're on no particular schedule.

[A]

Who's running this ship?

[B]

Nobody.

[A]

That's the problem.

[B]

That's the problem.

[C]

You were.

[B]

It's. I don't necessarily know why I sent this Instagram video, but you said something about Erica, and I was like, I have a video for that.

[A]

Drew. Yo.

[B]

Pull up Instagram.

[C]

Ooh.

[A]

That's where we get all our news.

[B]

Scroll down. Wait, hold on, hold on. This.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

That one, the second one, and then be. Hurry. Hurry up to turn on the volume when you get there.

[A]

Look at that.

[C]

Make sure it's on this thing.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Add the stage.

[A]

Bing, bang, boom.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

See what it said?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

When you're running off fumes, your wife just sends you this. I love you. I'm so proud of you. It's so simple. We're simple men. We. We do need. I mean, let's just be honest. We need encouragement every now and again. I don't need you to do it on me. I don't need you to tell me how amazing I am. That's. That's annoying. I love you and I'm proud of you. We could go for hundreds of miles on those simple words. Tell me I'm wrong. That's it. You're right. Too long.

[A]

I want to tell you you're wrong. You'll just to tell you you're wrong. But you're. But you're actually right.

[B]

You'd love to tell me I'm wrong.

[A]

I mean, even reading that, like, I've seen that one. I don't know if it's that exact one, but I don't know if it's the shark jumping out of the water, the bald eagle, the American flag, but it's the. It's those words, man. Like. But, man, I could. I can run through a mountain, like a wall.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I can run through anything.

[B]

Right.

[A]

If the. The. The only person that I want to hear that from says.

[B]

Right.

[A]

The only person.

[B]

There's another good point. Other people could tell you the same words. I'm not saying it means nothing. It has.

[A]

It has weight, but it's not the same weight.

[C]

No.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And that goes back to where, for one, like, where do your priorities lie?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And for me, I took. I took. I lost sight of that for such a long time. And, you know, but I wouldn't change anything. I would definitely, like, you know.

[C]

Yeah. And.

[A]

And rethink decisions that I made. But why? I just wouldn't. I'm not going to play God. My point is, is that, like, when she says those things to me, man, it is greater than anything I could ever hear from from you or any of my other brothers. Like, those things have meaning. And I think as men, like, we need to do a better job. We do a good job of holding each other accountable or trying to, especially online, which is just. And. And, you know, I don't know. But intention is lost. In some of the. Those correspondences. But like it. We need to validate each other too, you know, and that's where like you saying what you said earlier was very heartfelt and it was very meaningful. And I don't want that to come over. Like, I was like, okay, yeah, sure. I just don't want. I'm not a victim in my life anymore. Like, I am right. I am not. And it's right. And I. And as much as I hate to say this, like, I was. I was acting like a victim and everything circumstantially, well, oh, you know, it happened to me. And like, oh, you know, what about this? I would have done this. This, like, whatever.

[B]

Well, I just want to say this.

[A]

What are you gonna do with it?

[B]

Probably this is no surprise anyone that watches the show. We have a lot of females that watch this show. Just an absurd amount.

[A]

And if you sarcasm or not, but

[B]

I believe it to be true.

[A]

Women gray in your beard.

[B]

If. If you. If you tell that to your man, what we just said is true. That's. But just so you know all. Don't expect them to look at you and be like, really, baby, that means a lot to me. It does. He may just turn to you and smirk a little bit like, thanks, babe. But inside his. His take just got full up.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You know, so.

[A]

Yeah, it'll let a fire when. Yeah, when the coals are.

[B]

And sometimes just that you don't have to, like, that's the best way. Sometimes I think it's like in the middle of a work day just to send it. Just to receive that text message. And in a seven hours into a 14 hour workday, better than any white.

[A]

Well, I just got a message.

[B]

Let's not go too far.

[A]

Erica just said she loves me and she's so proud of me. That's not. That is not what she's like.

[C]

Hurry up.

[B]

It's not the only video I want to show you. I actually have footage of me and you and otc.

[C]

What?

[B]

Yep, you were having a bad day. I think. I think. I think you wanted to kind of throw in the towel and I wasn't really happy with you just having. We all have bad days in otc.

[A]

Drew.

[B]

Let's go back to the videos. Pull it up. It's the one on the very bottom. Yeah, it's a reenactment, but it's.

[A]

It's a damn.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

What's the matter with you? When did you get so jacked, bud? Or who's who here?

[B]

There is no tomorrow There is no tomorrow.

[A]

There is no tomorrow. Damn.

[C]

Love tomorrow.

[B]

You don't. You don't remember that. That redo this? It's almost like this.

[A]

It's like ridiculousness. It's like the redemption.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you guys know, you know.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Thank you, man. Thank you for that pep talk.

[B]

Yeah. I could see it in your eyes. I was like.

[A]

I don't even think you talked to me.

[B]

There is no tomorrow. I remember. I remember like it was yesterday.

[C]

Kyle. To Kyle. Enjoy a monster on me either. You Delta boys go to AMWs in Vermont. Shout out to Chris on set. Was an honor. Turning blue with you, Charlie Rock. Nice.

[B]

Amws. I believe that's a something Advanced Mountain Warfare School.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's the Rams horn.

[B]

I did go to it. I did go to it.

[A]

Did you really?

[B]

However, not on the mountain team. We went as a like a pmt. We did. We asked them if they do like a one week or maybe a two week mini mountains course. Warfare just for us. It wasn't like a certified course. It was like, hey, here's a crash course and, and ropes and mountains and dealing with elevated terrain. And it was a great school. It was really cool because they gave us the. They gave us the. The down and dirty of it. It was really cool.

[A]

You know where I learned how to manage ropes?

[B]

Where?

[A]

Ranger school.

[C]

I still see what you did there, Kyle.

[B]

Don't. Don't think less of me. But I know I'm not the only one. Other people have admitted this too, but they won't come out and say it. Usually. I can't tie a bowling right now if you ask me to. Can you tell?

[A]

You just got to watch Pat Max feed man.

[B]

It doesn't matter if the rabbit goes around the tree. It doesn't matter if I do the cowboy hat sideways. I remember them all. I just can't do it. It's so annoying. It's so annoying.

[C]

You don't need a bowline if you can tie a daisy chain.

[B]

I can tie a lot. That's what I can do. I just tie a lot and it holds.

[A]

Since we're talking about ropes and learning, climbing and stuff, like, I went to the Tutu ses's climbing.

[B]

Oh, did you?

[A]

Yeah, in Northern Wales and in Switzerland.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But the thing is that people don't understand is like, you know, I was probably a 3ic when I went. I went with a. Another guy from the same squadron and he was more senior than me. But everybody that goes through that course for them is like, just finished OTC It's a part of their, like, okay, pipeline. So they're like, they do this one. This one particular thing I learned a ton. Especially at a time when I was like, man, I don't. I'm having difficulty with fear. Like, what is this? I don't understand it. I don't have. I don't have a healthy real estate. I just thought. I wasn't afraid. But being thousands of feet up on a piece of. A couple slower downers that you placed yourself below you and you're at the top.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you got your climbing team, you know, at the other end of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you, you peel off this mountain, dude. Yeah. So you. You're going over the bottom.

[B]

That will acquaint you with your. Your old buddy fear.

[A]

Like, it just made me hyper focus on right here, really, your feet. But yeah, man, it's that who dares wins thing.

[B]

Love it.

[A]

They. Yeah, well, yeah,

[C]

everyone.

[A]

Everyone's gonna. All the blokes are gonna climb this. I'm butchering this British accent.

[B]

But no, you're nailing.

[C]

No, I love it.

[A]

They. They quite down back there, Drew, come on. I didn't say anything. I can't see him, man, Coming from. So there's this. It's an easier route, you know, than what we've trained to as far as grade. And they're like, but hey, mates, you're not going to climb with the rope. And I was like, he's joking, he's joking. And it's like a multi pitch thing. Yeah. And I was like. I looked over at my. The other American and I was like, no.

[B]

How about no, this isn't my pipeline?

[A]

He's like, not no, but no. And I was like, see? Go tell him no. And we walked over there. I'm like hiding behind him, like, yeah, what he said. And he's a very, you know him, if I said who it was, but okay. Very. Just direct person.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And the climbing senior guy, my instructor was like, all right, mate, it's easy, man.

[C]

You guys are good, mate.

[A]

And I'm like, no, man, don't give in. And. And we can't look at our command and say, hey, I. I slipped on this thing and broke my leg or cracked my skull.

[B]

You're in a bind because you can't say that. And you also, to some degree, can't look bad in front of them.

[A]

You're in a bind. Guess who didn't do it? We didn't do it. We watched. I was like, cool, yeah, that's. No, thank you.

[B]

Good on you guys. Good job. Good job, man.

[A]

Because, I mean, I get it. Like, there's a whole, like, free solo thing, and there's people that climb those things and. Or they climb way lower than their ability. Yeah. Free solo, big things.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

For a reason.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, you know, not to derail the whole thing. My whole point is, like, that climbing is such a good reminder of, like, man, I'm a very small thing in this world.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And help you focus attention.

[B]

Yeah. That'll.

[A]

That'll get you focused your own life kind of like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, Free fall too.

[B]

Yeah. All right, Drew, what do we have?

[C]

B. Jordan asks thoughts on Donahue retiring. What was he like as a leader? What officers really stood out to you during your time at the unit?

[B]

What say you about old CD I

[A]

remember one of the. Man, I was sitting in the chair, dude. When I failed that last piece of selection, and there was this dude. Different reason. You know, you don't know who's who. And I remember being over here, and I'm just like, this guy's burning a hole in my skull. I look over and be like, he. I. I mean, I don't. I think he was a great. I never worked with him in the squadron command or.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But as a unit commander, I thought he was. I thought he was good.

[B]

I thought he was good too. I was in my team room one day as a new. As a newer guy and just messing with. With my kit as. As we do and just being prepared for the next day as a new guy, just worried about everything. And. And also, I was only on the team room. I might have been the only one. The squadron bay at the time. And CD Knocks on the door, which as well is pretty cool if you think about it. And not everyone knows this, but especially at the unit team rooms, teams are run by enlisted guys. And it is just good etiquette as an officer to knock on the door and ask if you can come in the team room. That would really piss off some guys if they didn't do that.

[A]

Did. Even from other troops, even in our own troop, sometimes it was just like, yeah, yeah. I remember having to knock on the door going across the other side of this bay.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. Other troops, unless you permission. Unless I came from that team, I'd probably just knock on the door real quick. Hey, guys. So, yeah, I'll come on in. Yeah. But especially an officer. So he's the unit commander. He knocks on the door, and I'm like, oh, come on in. He was like, hey, Brent knew who I was. I mean, it's not that big, but still, for him to know, you know,

[A]

know everyone is a good thing or a bad thing, right? Yeah.

[B]

He goes, hey, I'm just walk around saying, is there anything I can do for you? Is there anything I can do better as a commander? What do you need from me? And I thought that was a really, really cool thing for him to do. There's one other thing he did which isn't popular from some people, but he ended up having to make a very. We'll just. I'll talk in generalities a little bit. He had to make a very hard decision that he thought was the right decision.

[A]

I think I know exactly right.

[B]

I don't agree with the decision that he made personally. However, he came to each squadron and at, you know, in our classroom, or what's it called, the classroom, and sure went what I call the lines then and said, hey, this is what happened. This is why I did it. I want you guys to know, do you have any questions of me? And I was like, he didn't have to do that. I appreciate that he did. I didn't agree with him still, but I. I thought. I appreciate they did that. So there's a couple. And I got one more CD story. And when I got shot, he was the unit commander. And I woke up on more than one occasion from my multiple surgeries to the unit commander sitting next to me reading a book and just be like, oh, hey, Brent, how you doing? Just wanted to make sure someone was here when you woke up. If you need anything, I'm right here. I have nothing in common with him to some degree. It was awkward. We didn't have a lot of conversation, but he wouldn't let me wake up by myself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How cool is that? Good leadership. Yeah. So anyway, there are some cool CD stories. I know. I know this. I don't. I should say I'm almost certain of this. I don't believe he willingly retired. I believe he was forced out by Hegseth. And I think that has to do with some of the follow, not the. The fallout from the Afghanistan debacle. But if that's true, you went after the wrong guy. There was a bunch of other people that were at fault, and CD was. Was a shining star in our general population.

[A]

I will say that, like him moving up the ranks and. And taking the 82nd Airborne when he did, and I think he changed a lot and made to the 82nd even better, which I have. I have a lot of pride in that. Having started there, I have nothing negative to say about him.

[B]

Same here. Good question. And thank you for asking that question so I could brag on. On CD a little bit.

[C]

Holy folk back in says Kyle, do you still stay in touch with J. Cal 87, aka Jamie Calvert of 22SAS? Didn't he spend some time under you and your troop? Any stories you can share?

[A]

Was J. Cal with you on my last deployment?

[B]

Oh, was he?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

Yeah, he. Man, I, I think I'm very fond of Jamie. I'm really, I'm really grateful that he found a home with GBRs and they took him in. Especially, you know, the, the Brits deal with a lot of cultural differences than. Than we do as Americans with support of our service. And he's got a lot to offer and it's. Yes. So when he does make it back to the States and permanently, like him and I, we're gonna, we're gonna get together and do some stuff. He. The thing that was really cool is I think I don't. And this isn't shade any, any one way. It's just he had a very different experience with the troops that were before me or our troop come going into where we were at on that last deployment. It's like 2018 into 2019. And you know, he, he had a lot of, A lot of knowledge, a lot to offer, but he was kind of idle hands and hamstringed with his own. The, the political kind of infrastructure or the environment that he was operating under.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But we just, we let him, we moved him into the archu. Our team did nice and he lived with us and we got to go on a couple operations together. But we broke bread every day, worked out to together, drank together, which is a big thing. Like him and I were both I think at a, at a certain point in our. How we cope with alcohol.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then how that kind of projects outward. So we're, we're both really. We got really loud together and. But it, it's. I'm really proud of him, man. And, and he's got a lot to offer.

[B]

Do you know what, what, what his issue is with him taking so long to get over here? Is there some sort of something holding him back from.

[A]

Yeah, well, it was, it was some sort of like war crime investigation.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I don't.

[B]

He's still going through that, that you know, of.

[A]

I gotta check.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean I, I. The last time I talked with him was when I saw that interview came out with Sean Ryan.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And occasionally we'll message back and forth on Instagram, but I, I made sure to, to call him when I started watching it. I was just really proud of him. Well, they go, it's been vocal.

[B]

It's time to check in on him again. Yes, all right, it is.

[A]

But thank you for that reminder, whoever asked that question.

[B]

And yeah, good question.

[C]

Gooch Parmesan says, where is Kingpix Media?

[A]

He's on his own. Twitch Live right now, probably. He's a big, big gamer now.

[B]

We gotta, we gotta next, next time. Another seven, eight months now. He's, he's got to come down with you.

[A]

We'll make it happen.

[C]

Zubi says thoughts on Israel rejecting Trump's plans. Do you think U. S. Leadership is good enough to negotiate and win the trade wars and peace talks with China and Iran, or do you think military intervention is the only option?

[B]

Sure, I'd love to jump on this. Do I think the US Leadership is good enough to negotiate and win the trade wars and peace talks with China and Iran? Yes,

[C]

but do we think China and Iran are smart enough?

[B]

Right. Love them or hate them, he has gotten his way and he's not scared. And this is, and this is just, this is just the, the truth. Sometimes there's no, there's no, there's no win without a little bit of pain. We were getting absolutely taking advantage of, with tariffs. And so he started playing that tariff game and a negotiation said, oh, well, you want to put tariffs on us, we'll put tariffs on you. And then we play the tariff game for a little bit. And it was painful for a little bit, but we ended up winning that same thing with Iran. Gas prices went up. This is going to be a win. Gas prices are already coming back down and this is going to be a win. He is a good negotiator. There may be some small pains because unlike negotiators of the past who didn't have the guts to say, all right, we'll eat a little bit of pain to make sure you feel even more painful so we can bring it back to the negotiating table. He's the right guy to get this done. And he's also proven with Iran, that's up to them at the end of the day whether they make a, a good deal. He tried to negotiate with Iran before he killed almost all of their leadership, and that was their fault. He negotiated with them and they took, they took a hard stance and then they took warheads to foreheads and now look who's getting the negotiations that they, that they could have done the whole time. So there's a little bit of a long answer for it, but yes, I think we got it. Trump, would you like to say anything about the negotiations?

[C]

So I'm going to say right now, how do you have 100 plus years of failed leadership? I come in the second time around, should have been 2000, but you know what happened with that? So how do I come in and I just drop some bombs and I said negotiate? They say no. So do I. Do I do it again? And look at me, look at what we're doing. But you can't make this correction overnight. It's gotta take time. That's why I'm the don.

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[B]

Well done, sir. Well done, sir.

[A]

That was good.

[B]

If I, you know, I can't have you shave your beard over it. But next time, if you don't come in a blonde wig and a suit.

[A]

My gosh, Nice spray tan.

[B]

Oh, man. Spray and an orange. Orange breakdown. All right, what else we got here?

[C]

Show up looking like a giant Oompa Loompa. Jefferson. Newbie says followed both of your journeys. Bottom line. Thank you. And good to see you boys taking. Taking care of boys.

[B]

Thank you, Jefferson. Thank you, sir.

[C]

Oh, Bo Bo from the above average state of Texas. We love you, man. Fill the fridge back up, Paco. Going to need to hear some Tenacious D tonight.

[B]

I know what song you want.

[C]

Want make it so number one. I finished that for you there, Bo. September 11th, New York City. Be there. Hi, Devin.

[B]

Hey, that's awesome. This is if Bo, you're the best. This is the. You don't have to do that for me to do what I'm about to do. But this is the weekly reminder that we are going to be for the 50 for the fallen event at ground zero there in 9 11. We're gonna be there as a tier one podcast. Mike Glover is more than likely going to, after talking with him, gonna meet us out there. I talked to Dalton Fisher about it. Dalton Fish is like, come count me in.

[A]

He messaged me when he saw we were doing.

[B]

Oh, dude, he's the best. Oh, he's the best.

[A]

He's like, remind him not to delete the podcast.

[B]

Oh, everyone knows. It's the worst kept secret ever. I only told you. So you must have told everybody.

[A]

I told everybody.

[B]

So if you guys want the details of it, go to 50. That's 5.0ftf for the fallen. 50ftf.org to get the details about that. Kyle just found out now that he's also going to it. It's 9 11.

[A]

I was just looking at my schedule. So I was looking at my schedule. It's definitely.

[B]

It's a possibility.

[A]

I've wanted to make it up there for 9 11.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So we'd love to. Love to be involved.

[B]

All right. It's at least a strong possibility then.

[C]

All the real Americans gonna be there. It's gonna be great.

[B]

Yeah. So that'll. That'll be. That'll be. That'll be very cool. And it's my birthday on the 11th.

[C]

10th.

[B]

The 10th. Okay. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'll. I'll actually, as of right now, already be up there. Just in case anyone cares. I'll be training. I believe we gotta make sure. But it's almost. It's almost. Almost a sure thing. The Atlantic City SWAT team.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

8, 9, 10. And then I'll pop over to New York City for the night of the 10th and. And the 11th. So it'll already be in the area. That seems like it's gonna work out just fine. So stay tuned. If any of the listeners are in that area, hit me up on Patreon and we'll go have some. Some steak and a cigar.

[C]

Oh, this will be interesting. Teddy Roosevelt says Brent Cobbille said, trying to steal a guy's wife is not tier one. Was that a hit on you? And I hope this doesn't mean you also like Transformers.

[B]

That's a great question, Teddy. Trying to steal a guy's wife is not tier one. He never says who the wife is. He never says who the guy is. The guy never has come out and said that happen. It's just an absolute baseless thing that they're over there trying to stir up for clicks because they really need views and all they know is drama. So they're going back to the playbook. So that's really more of a question for him than me.

[C]

Yeah. M. Mike just needs to consider his source on that and get. Get the whole story because that doesn't. I. I know a lot of Brent's personal life and I don't know anything about that.

[B]

No one does.

[C]

No, no one does.

[B]

What's crazy about no one does?

[C]

That's it.

[B]

But keep it up, guys.

[A]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[C]

Yeah, neither do we.

[B]

No one does.

[C]

I know. No one does except Mike and. And whoever Mike got that information from.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I don't even know who Mike is.

[B]

Right. I mean the. They 22 people watch it, so I'm. I'm almost. I'm almost surprised that it even made it to my podcast with as little views as they got. So no one would have even known the trash talking they were doing over there if it wasn't for that. And that's fine. I have no problem taking a question you. If, If. If you have integrity in the truth on your side, you can ask me anything you want.

[C]

Dave Roosevelt back in says, if the president called and told you guys your country needs you, do you guys think you could perform enough to keep up or are the skills too perishable?

[B]

Oh, that's a good question. I. I do. I want to say yes. I want to say yes.

[A]

I'm definitely saying yes.

[B]

I'm saying yes.

[A]

I'm saying yeah.

[B]

Should you say yes?

[A]

Got a lot of work to do, but I'm on my way.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

I would not to take away from, like, it'd be impossible for us to sit there and say that we train at the level that we used to. I train as. As much as I can given the resources that I've been given. And it pales in comparison.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But. But I feel like my shooting is better than it's ever been because I'm so focused on it. The CQB piece, the collective HR like, piece is kind of missing because we talked about this a little bit earlier. Like, it's just different when you get 15 of us together doing it versus me trying to like, teach and use and like melting pods of different experience with it. And it's. But time practicing together is huge. And with the team I have now on Blue Bearing it's you know, four guys and well six when we are doing stuff in North Carolina. Two of them have full time jobs though. So they're a contractor cadre and. But we train as much as we can with those two. But as a team the four of us train collectively three times a week.

[B]

You work so much at the unit. You work together so much you're under nods so much it. It becomes. It's almost eerie. You could see a guy under nods walking 30ft away from you and in two or three steps you'd be like that's Steve.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

I can tell by the way he walks. I can tell by. By his kit. I can tell by the way he stands. His demeanor. You can have a blurry guy that you could just barely see to your right and be like that's Jason. You know it's just. There's just that many reps. There's no way I can go right back into it. Not skip a beat. Yeah but give me. Give me some time. I got there once I get there again.

[C]

Just note 11 Bravo says I shaved my beard and sunlight helped everything below the waist grow. Tree trunks.

[B]

Shouldn't it. That's not odd. Than skinny legs.

[C]

It is

[B]

those.

[A]

Those dude.

[B]

Those who will shave their beard for tree trunk legs deserve neither the beard nor the tree trunk legs. I believe our founding fathers said that.

[C]

And you're slowing the team down. Shaped shaving is a sin as far as I'm concerned. But you know I have skin in the game. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

You do.

[A]

This is true.

[B]

If that's not the 11th Commandment, I don't know what is.

[A]

I'll never shave. That's pretty funny.

[C]

We know that.

[B]

We thank.

[C]

All right. Lieutenant Dian says I'm a 23 year old truck driver on the road right now and just want to say I love y' all's show. Finally catching my first live.

[B]

I love it. I love it. And I love. I love that. Your eyes on the road bud.

[C]

Roll on.

[B]

He's a pro. He's a pro. I believe that man.

[A]

I got this semi truck believe in him.

[B]

You know what I think is cool? He's a 23 year old truck driver. And not to do like you know the. But everyone's great. Hey this. This country stops if we don't have truck drivers and usually think that as older guys doing that. That man's 23 years old doing it. I here's. Here's my. Where is he at here's. Here's my challenge to you, Lieutenant Dan. Maybe we'll just call you Dan. Dan, you're 23. Don't spend your money on big trucks and fast cars and women. Save your money. Learn the whole industry for the next seven years, and by the time you're 30, start your own trucking business that you learn from with your chunk of money. And by the time you're in your. Your 40s, you will be way ahead of everybody.

[C]

Make and call it the tier one trucking company.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Holler at him in seven years.

[B]

Let. Holler at me at seven years and. And let me know when you need business advice. I'll be older and wiser as well, and I'll give you free advice as much as I can. Dan. Do it. Do it, Dan.

[C]

All right. Rooting for you, right wing nut says Justin Olympravo just told me he wished it was night all the time. Said Panos were awesome. Welcome, Kyle. Need a serious story, bro.

[B]

Are you serious?

[A]

Serious?

[B]

Here's a funny story from Syria.

[A]

He asked me. That's true.

[B]

Oh, did he?

[A]

Oh, no, no, maybe he didn't. He just said, welcome, Kyle.

[B]

He said, welcome, Kyle. I the mention you, but not everything's about you.

[A]

You got to.

[B]

Serious story.

[C]

I don't know, bro. The antecedent to bro is Kyle.

[A]

So not better than yours.

[B]

It's a. It's a stupid story because I don't. I don't.

[A]

It's.

[B]

As you know, it's hard to be judicious with. With your stories. So who. Who knows what unit I was in at the time? Could have been any. Okay, that. That helps me, doesn't it, to some degree. Sure. Could have been any unit that I've been a part of. We were going to. To. To drive in. And it was. It was a pretty robust mission, number wise. And so we had to bring in some rangers to drive the trucks for us. They weren't really doing anything at the time. And so they were like, heck yeah, those guys need us for admission. Like, we're getting the call. And I. I got a thing. It was like six or seven trucks that we had hiluxes and we did. We forgot to mention we need drivers is kind of insinuated that could drive stick shifts. And then when we got them, and not every 21 to 25 year old that they sent us can drive a stick shift. We had to send half of them back and say, hey, send send ones that had a mom and a dad and his dad taught him how to drive. A stick shift. And I actually hated it for those guys because it broke their hearts. They're like, we were gonna go on a mission. We're gonna. We're going to go on a mission with the boys and. Because I can't drive a stick and dude.

[A]

But like so many of the guys that get onto missions, whether from regimen or even our support stuff like make yourself a value added. Do things that are. We're gonna set yourself up. If it's. If it's to drive. Be the best driver that you can be.

[B]

And somewhere back. And they're like, hey, we will learn. And I did. I. It broke my heart. I didn't. And we had to because now's not the time.

[A]

No.

[B]

To be learning. But we couldn't.

[A]

Can't find them, grind them. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, that was a tough one. There you go.

[C]

Teddy Roosevelt again. My law enforcement team hits a lot of doors and our only firearm option is 9 millimeter handgun guns. Is it that bad? And what would your guys argument be for why management needs to let us have some more options.

[B]

I can get down on this. I'll let. If. If you want to go first, Kyle, I'll give it to you.

[A]

Well, I guess, I mean I'm not going to get a response to it. But why. Why are they hitting doors with 9 mil handguns? Because I mean when.

[B]

Well they're. I was just saying they go. I think he's saying they go through a lot of doors.

[A]

No, it says hits. Hits a lot of doors.

[B]

Yeah, there hits a lot of doors. It hit a lot of targets. I don't think they're using a 9 millimeter to breach a door.

[A]

No, that's not what I mean. Come on.

[B]

Well, what do you mean?

[A]

What I mean is, is that why are you making all these entries when the attack. Do they not have a tactical team? Because every tactical team should be issued. I know a rifle.

[B]

They may be the ad hoc tactical team for a smaller department servicing their own search warrants.

[A]

I mean I'm the. I'm a big proponent to. To call outs as you know, like

[B]

I have no issues.

[A]

We have to be ready for crisis century. We got to train to that new fail mission.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

But man set the conditions. If the answer to the question is if you're being honest with yourselves is no one and nothing in this building, this structure, this battle for morality in the confines of a structure is worth us getting hurt to obtain. Then why would we not use every resource we have? Which the. What's the. The one that we don't have enough of but time. Yeah and turn the power off gas mount like but be prepared to when you commit to going through that doorway and you can. That's why I love CQB with pistols is because and we would challenge ourselves to do pistol only runs occasionally, not all the time. But we're all right now let's do this with pistols only because it happens with transitions, you know when you best rep didn't know it's coming.

[B]

But like you said they need time for that which I could almost guarantee they don't have. And my argument would be as you know you really have to sell law enforcement headquarters on risk and risk adversity man.

[A]

If there's any any chance that you're going hands on with someone having a pistol in your hands versus a rifle slung.

[B]

How about this?

[A]

How about asking more dangerous.

[B]

We're assuming it's a part team, part time tactical team. It's a good assumption but we're working on an assumption here. If you're a part time tactical team and so you don't have the training to be hitting shots on the run with a pistol and we cannot. Law enforcement cannot miss shots. Their, their job is to only hit the bad guys and save Americans and not have any collateral damage. You have to have a rifle running through a house. Especially the lower trained you are. You have to have that. It's the only way to be accurate man.

[A]

The other thing to think about with that is you have to look at percentages. How many of all those hits did you have to use lethal force or you know, an officer involved shooting and then in comparison to how many of those are you putting hands on people right through that doorway potentially. I mean just use the noise right. Use the data to go to your command and say hey it's much easier for our guys to put hands on people coming through in this battle for morality in the confines of a structure with a rifle that we can just lower and put hands on versus having to holster a pistol and do everything with one hand.

[B]

Right.

[A]

There's a.

[B]

There's definitely several arguments maybe use that I don't know. Yeah, yeah but the caliper doesn't matter. Caliber doesn't matter with what you have. Yeah. A nine millimeter round I, I have. Here's an argument I've. I've actually had before for most tactical teams to have a five five, six round like here conus that's really overkill to be honest that you're not having to reach out and touch someone. If we're talking CQB, right? And the 3 to 500 meters out the way we have to overseas. If you're going from the bear count to the house and your main. Your 99 solution is what you're going to do in the house or short shot. Those pistol caliber carbines are great. They're great.

[C]

Express nine millimeter going through a house

[B]

with a four and a half inch barrel. I got no problem with the nine millimeter and the as a pcc.

[C]

Brody Martin with much love tonight. Thank you, Brody. Hey, fellas. I'm on a violent crime task task force in the great state of Florida.

[B]

Oh, thank you, Brody.

[C]

When we finish a big case or operation, I give out blue bearing with you T shirts.

[B]

I love that shirt. I love that shirt.

[C]

And FRCC Delta Limited cigars. Big fan of y'. All. Our SRT is awesome, but shields aren't prioritized. Advice. Outro song Bombs Over Baghdad.

[A]

That was one of the first concerts I saw in person. Really? He's actually in Orlando.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. That's awesome, Brody. Thank you so much, man. That means a lot to me because with you is. I'm obviously taking that from scripture, taking it from that verbal squeeze, that contract that you don't have to think about what I'm doing behind you. And that's. It's a culture, it's a mindset that I want. It's. It's a way of life, man. So thank you. And that shirt is just one way to represent with you heart and soul, man. When faced with near certain death, like, I'm with you heart and soul.

[C]

What would your advice be to him, Kyle, about their. The shields on the team not being prioritized?

[A]

Well, I'll tell you this. There's like any tool, it's gotta. You have to practice integrating it into your assaults, into your clearances. Excuse me, can't say assault. My point with that is like with flashbangs, with canines, with drones, with shields. Like, we have to. We gotta practice and we have to. We gotta take moments where we just focus on.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Every room we're throwing a bang. Every room we're doing door procedures with the shield flashbang. Or excuse me, shield dog, like in. In those sequencing orders. Otherwise it's going to be an afterthought. And what good is a tool if it's not there when you need it? But with the shields, there's a balance too, because a lot of people think it's this false sense of security. It does give you ballistic protection. Very limited ballistic Protection, which is better than none when you're getting shot at. And to be honest, like, the Radisson wouldn't have ended without the French bringing the shield, the full body shield that they had to get really close to what turned into. From an active attack into a barricade as.

[B]

As they normally do.

[A]

Yeah. And there. So we have to know, like, we can't just put that thing on the Bearcat, man. Like, we. We can't just necessarily leave it at the breach. It all depends on the size of the structure. But, say, in a large structure. My point with all of this is I came back from the Radisson, and one of the things that I started to try to incorporate is the use of shields on. On hostage Rescue. So I would. I. I saw what we had. I'm like, okay, cool. How do I put a sling on this thing, throw it on my back? I'm fast roping with this thing on my back because we're going deep into this building, and I'm not just going to be in an hr, like, hiding behind the shield because the priority of life, innocent life, over. Over ours in that case.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

But it's there when we need it, you know, so that's one of the things I started there.

[B]

If you need it. Correct. And I agree.

[C]

Brody.

[A]

You got to force it. Brody. That's the thing is. Is if you think it's a priority, if you see the benefit. I. I do see the benefit and all the things I just said with it, and I think there's absolutely an application for it in law enforcement entries.

[B]

You could say, I don't know. I just asked two former Delta Force operators, and they say we should. That's a pretty strong argument because I

[C]

said, Brody, what I would do is I would spray paint tier one on a trash can lid, and I'd bring it to every training exercise until they point I was. Information came from two SEAL team members because they'll probably get through before you guys do.

[B]

They know. They know.

[C]

All right, let's see. Just. No. Bravo says when the sun goes down. I'm hunting Bigfoot in Central Helenois tonight. Likely only find homeless meth heads, though.

[B]

It's the chance you take. It's the chance you take. But I love the commitment. Love it.

[C]

Either that or a bunch of crap on the sidewalk.

[B]

Yeah. All right, we'll do little.

[C]

Go out with a nerf gun. It might be fun.

[B]

Quick, quick answers. I got to get Kyle out of here as close to 10 as possible.

[C]

Sunny Saletti win. Needs some of the Lesser known naval guys on.

[B]

Absolutely. We. We'll have any and all on. We've been adamant about that.

[C]

Let's see. Brad Freeman. Kyle, what's your opinion on Brent's blatant crash grab of holding multiple lives a week for more super cash?

[A]

I think it's a business model for sure. No, I. What's really cool to see, though, is like I said, you normally do this Thursday and I. It's not that I don't want to be on these. It's just I have the fellowship that we've been running for. Shoot. Almost three years.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Every Thursday night.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

At 8:30 Eastern. So sometimes I'm way more prepared than others, but it's really helping me grow spiritually as a. As a leader. But the multiple cash grabs, man, what's cool to see is the fact that people are donating or. What are these called?

[B]

Super chats.

[A]

Super chats. Like, that's. That's amazing. You guys are like, very loyal followers, man. And that's what. That's what culture is. And trying to, you know, you guys are the community that, you know, that we all. That all. We all inspire to be able to. To create, to foster, to develop. And this is cool to see. Thank you. So.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I'm sorry. He did two in one week, but.

[C]

Girl dad. Sorry, Girl dad says I've asked the same question the last two live shows, but love hearing the answers. Kyle, what was your favorite Kid up song?

[B]

That's a great question.

[C]

And why was it Dancing Queen by abb Abba? Cheers, boys. Y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

The best

[B]

favorite Kid up song. Do you have one?

[A]

Man? Let the Bodies Hit the Flow. It's a classic.

[B]

It's. It's.

[A]

There's phases, you know, over time.

[B]

That's right. Right.

[A]

And unless you've been there a while, you may not control the. The remote.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

So you kind of just fall in on it. But yeah, I don't know why. Call me maybe. Keeps coming back. Carly Ray.

[C]

Whatever.

[A]

Oh, gosh.

[B]

All right.

[C]

K9 says I first met Kyle when you were with Kyle Lamb during a speaking session for our department in Nashville.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

It was a real blessing to hear that you gave your life to Christ. We truly serve a mighty God. Second Timothy 1:7.

[A]

Well, that is awesome.

[B]

Double Kyle's.

[A]

Double Kyles. He's a man. I. That's another reminder for. For me to reach out to and just to stay in touch with. I admire Kyle Lamb immensely. And it's. That's awesome that. That was One of the first times I was still. I was on terminal leave and Kyle invited me and Erica up there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Stayed at his. At his place and just. He showed us his hospitality, him and his wife, Melody. Melanie. Melody. If I mess that up, I'm sorry, Kyle, but I just admire him as a professional, but also as a spiritual mentor for me because even back then, I hadn't fully turned my life to Christ. And he had a. Kyle had a big part in that. He said. He said things to me at a time when I wasn't necessarily ready to receive, but I was open to listening to him. So thank you so much for messaging. Yeah.

[C]

All right. That's solely saying putting some more money into some of the lower super chats. I read some of them.

[A]

What's that, Josh? Husky one?

[B]

I think it was the. I think it was the Billy Levine question.

[A]

He's my supporter.

[C]

That's a different guy. That's whiskey.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And I'm talking to him about that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's.

[C]

He said, ask Kyle about the Billy Levine. I don't know specifically what. I'm trying to get it to him in the chats.

[B]

Did you work with Billy Levine? Just thoughts on Billy.

[A]

Billy, man, I. He was a great operator when he was. When he was focused on what he was. Was tasked with doing.

[B]

You know, they finally charged someone with his murder.

[A]

I saw that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I. I will say that Billy exhausted every friendship and every resource that the unit had and provided. And it's. It's tragic, but. And a lot of people just started distancing themselves when they got burned so many times. And I wasn't as close with him as a lot of guys that I know were, but all those guys are echoing the same thing, and it's. It's tragic, and that's all I'll say about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's not justifying anything he did, right? By no means.

[B]

Yeah. Josh Burton had really good things.

[A]

I've been to combat with him as

[B]

an operator as well. They just. He. He made poor life decisions at the end, and that's just. That's just the truth.

[C]

Josh says, who's the real CAG daddy here? God love you, brother.

[B]

That moniker is never gonna.

[A]

Where did that come from? Someone. I did a. I did our monthly live the other night, and someone asked me that.

[B]

I don't. I don't remember where the CAG Daddy thing started. It came from the other podcast, but I don't know. I don't. Someone started it, and I don't know who to give credit that. That credit to somebody in the chat. Yeah, someone in the chat.

[C]

It's on the lowers now. So if you buy a line arms, you're getting a cag daddy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So clearly it's Brent.

[C]

What the listener wanted to know was, did that person possibly introduce you to drugs?

[A]

No. No, he didn't. There you go. I introduced myself to that by myself.

[C]

Let's see. Alex says, Kyle, great to see you on a live. Your SRS episode is one of my favorites. On that episode when talking about edc, advice about carrying a gun and the why was very helpful to me. Thank you, brother.

[A]

Yeah. Thank you, man. I'm glad that message is still. Is still radiating and hasn't changed my. My response to it. What's the best gun? The one that you have on you and that you know how to use.

[B]

I will accept that answer. I will accept that answer.

[C]

Like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right. Our brother, Wiley Coyote with much love tonight once again paying the mortgage. Mortgage. Rock on. Kyle, are you still a IHG Radisson blue guy, Bonvoy Marriott or a Hilton rewards guy? Thursdays for the boys. Metallica. Wherever I may Roam for the outro.

[B]

Great song.

[A]

I'm a Hilton diamond member. And are you. That's my store. And I'm sticking. That's what we're staying at, right? That's where we're standing tonight.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I try to stay away from Radissons. Fox News is now streaming live on Fox 1. When it matters most, turn to the voices you trust. We go beyond the headlines, bringing you the stories you won't hear anywhere else.

[B]

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[A]

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[C]

I think someone in the chat's asked, have they given you, like, free nights for life?

[B]

That's actually a good question. Did Radisson ever say thank you? They had a try to send you a bill.

[A]

You're like, hey, man, this is a mess.

[C]

You're an insurance.

[A]

I'm like, I didn't do all this, man. What about all those doors you just kicked in that we had the key for? I was like, I don't know where the key was. I got the key. There was a security guy from, like, the corporate region that flew in to do an assessment of everything, post everything. When I was okay, he didn't know who I was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I was wearing a suit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was mixing in with the FBI guys. Yeah, I'm with him, you know, and I'm doing All my, like, collecting information about trying to make sense of what happened.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he just. He's like, oh, you were one of the. Oh, and you. And I was like, yeah. And he's like, oh, man, here's my card. Like, anytime you want to stay in a Radisson. I. I never followed up with him, but he did say something I actually. I forgot about.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, I don't know where that card is, man.

[B]

Give me the card. If you won't take it up, I will.

[A]

He's like, but it's only in the transit hill, bud.

[B]

So my hard pass.

[C]

Yeah, Brody's in the chats, and he said he really likes the trash can idea, so. Okay, there it is. He here. He's a super chat. Why didn't Kyle get the medal of Honor? Drew, see you Sunday at 8pm outro song bombs Over Baghdad. Brent, embrace your hip hop roots.

[B]

You're not gonna like, hear this, but I. I have said before, and I won't. I won't mention anyone else's names as if, like, to lesser them to put you on a pedestal because your actions speak for themselves. I believe they should look at it as an upgrade. I'm just. It's just how I feel. Kyle, do you know if anyone's ever talked about that?

[A]

I really appreciate you saying that.

[B]

I mean it. Do you know if anyone's ever talked about doing that as. As an upgrade?

[A]

I. I offline?

[B]

We will. I'll tell you the stories of. Of. Of what I would say. Your actions rank above. So it's easy for me in comparison. So it's easy. It's a little bit easier an argument to do in comparison. But like I said, I don't want

[A]

to try to finish the Thief of Joy.

[B]

Right. But I want to make it look like color.

[A]

Like. Like we have to be able to compare.

[B]

That's right. Yes, that's right. That's. But that's how you validate that it should be by comparison. So like I said, I only don't do it because it'll look. It doesn't look good. But. But we'll do it off air. Yeah. As no one has. No one ever talked about that.

[A]

So.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

Former Secretary of The Army Ryan McCarthy said this to me, you know, in. In private, but he said that. And I don't know where it goes after him at the time. And this was in 2020. 2021 that he reviewed my personnel jacket for. For one, when I walked in the room, he said he stood up and was like, you're Colin Morgan. And I was like, whoa. Because I was going there to meet him because he worked on the board at this company I was. I was interning at.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And he did say that he recommended that it be upgraded. And, you know, he. He didn't know when or. I don't know where it goes after that. But my whole point is, is that I am extremely grateful for the Distinguished Service Cross, and it has such a meaning to me.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But it is just a. It's an award that I. That I hold very closely. And if that ever did happen, man, I would be extremely grateful and appreciative and my family would. That's for sure. Yeah.

[B]

It's just now they just got me thinking and reminiscing. But, you know, guys, like, every OTC class. Every OTC class because of the unit, has guys that go off and do a amazing things, but, you know, life's at his ups and downs. But if. Come on, if I to come up to you in OTC and be like, come here a second. I don't know when or how, but like, God just told me, like, you're going to get the second highest award in the nation for something. You'd be like, no, me? Yeah, you. You're gonna get that. That's what you got. Like, how crazy is that? Do you not know that You. You know where it ranks, right?

[A]

Yeah, no, trust me, that's what.

[B]

Like, I'm just making light of it

[A]

to me, but, you know, it's like, I was crazy. Fourth one to get it since the unit started and.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know this personally. Like, that's not taken lightly. No, like that. Whatever. Valor award. Yeah, like, it. Getting it there just has so much more meaning to me. And I'm not taken away from anyone else. I can only speak to my experience, but, man, it's such a.

[B]

Because people may not know this.

[A]

We talk about this in the, in the podcast that we filmed earlier.

[B]

And I've said it before, I will. I. I don't have. I don't have any Valor awards. All my combat rotations I have. I don't have a single Valor award. Now, I could tell you things that should have got Valor awards, but they didn't. But the unit was a very hard place to get a Valor award because whenever we come back from something, I would have some good leaders that were like, hey, let's. Let's put in some Valor awards. You know, that was. That was a dicey target. And the troop sergeant major would say, the boys are just Doing their jobs. Yeah, there's why.

[A]

And when they put me in for that, I was like, no, man, I would do it. Anything anyone else would do.

[B]

I. I know. And. And I get. I in a weird. I get both sides of the art of. Of the argument. But when you're at the highest level and the highest thing is expected of you, so when you do amazing things, it's just looked at doing your job, that now becomes a skewed scale of. Of. Of what you're operating at. And. And we can't do that either. But, yeah, you're right. That's a hard place to get an award at, because amazing things are average there and expected.

[A]

It's a place where you struggle with mediocre every day.

[B]

Yeah. But you did it, Kyle. Just as a reminder.

[A]

Oh, thank you, sir.

[C]

Hard retard. Been waiting for this for a long time. So much respect for you both. Thank you for everything you do. Kyle, what is your favorite Brent story? Brent, what is your favorite Kyle story?

[A]

So my favorite Brent story is that time that I came down here and filmed for hours. He deleted the podcast, so we'll see if the trend continues after we film today.

[B]

My favorite Kyle story is when I deleted his episode. Someone needs to make a shirt.

[A]

Don't delete my episode. Don't believe my podcast, bro. Tier 1.

[C]

Yeah, your episode might get deleted. We are getting a shirt sent to us by the end of the week, I'm sure.

[B]

Oh, gosh.

[A]

Don't delete. I don't have a specific story, but there's just a. And I think I said this to you last time we filmed. That's why I said my favorite story is you deleting. It was your motivation. Your false sense of motivation.

[C]

Your.

[A]

Your character from back in OTC was. It was extremely contagious. Was very. I. I just absolutely loved your personality in that course. And, you know, we're all trying to figure out who's who in the zoo. What. How do I do this? Learning how to walk and talk with guns in my hands again. Now it's like doing it together was just one of my favorite things. And then obviously, we went to different squadrons, but every time I saw you, man, that smile is why I'm sitting here right now.

[B]

You may have been too winded.

[A]

Get a room, whatever.

[B]

You may have been too winded to notice, but that was my second otc, and I'd seen this before, and you acted like I'd seen this before about someone not finishing. Guys, I know what's next about finishing a Five miler. Not in time. And we had. I'll tell you his name here later. And he actually failed 2 UBRRs because of the 5 miler, of all things. And now this is at the end of the course. We were at the finish line cheering them on for the last one. Yeah. And cheerleaders. Yeah. But after, after the first one, me and a couple guys, we're at the finish line cheering you on. I don't know if you remember that or not, but I remember that and I remember why I was doing that.

[A]

Oh, man, I don't remember that. I was breathing real heavy.

[B]

Yep. Yeah. And I'm. But I wasn't worried.

[A]

I do remember.

[B]

I wasn't worried about you. It was, it was the first one. I knew you had time and a second one would have. Would have concerned.

[A]

No, I know. They counseled me on that. They're like, hey, man, we'd hate to drop you for this because they were like, you're doing very well in this. This. Not so well in this and this. Because you know where you stand. And it's something that. They were like, Kyle. Like my individual counselor was like, kyle, man, you need to just run, bud. And I was like, but I hate.

[B]

Which is crazy.

[A]

I can lift heavy things.

[B]

You're a diver.

[A]

Yeah, I know you're a diver.

[B]

You went to combat dive school and ran five miles at a six and a half minute mile pace.

[A]

I went to the. And you were, you were the easy class.

[B]

You know, you did. And you were fairly.

[A]

No, but it goes, it goes.

[B]

You were fairly young in an otc. I mean, we're like, no, I'm not.

[A]

You went like 10 years in. So I was 20, 20. I can't do math. 28, 28, 27, 28. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I shouldn't say that is young. That's. That's late 20s is kind of.

[A]

No, but this goes back to like that, that deployment, when I had to go back, they didn't, they didn't want me in selection and then went back to my team. That's when I met Ryan Hendrickson was a part of helping save his life. That was a really long and rough deployment, but a lot of maturity happened in me. But it ain't in the weight room. I was just getting all the, the big muscles and getting real strong, and it was very different. Like when I went back to what do the. The relook, you know, aspect, like, I, I didn't do worse on the. The things that I had to do.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But man, it was different because of my preparation. Looked way different. So yeah, yeah, I definitely was not as, as prepared as I should have been going into otc.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So Brent, was that a brag that

[B]

you were at the finish line before Kyle?

[C]

No. Cheering him.

[B]

No, that wasn't, that wasn't a brag.

[A]

I don't know man.

[B]

But I mean, but I mean and you were older and you're an older.

[C]

Jeez.

[B]

Oh, he had the last laugh on the O course.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

Sean admitted to starting a network. He never said he trafficked drugs. He said he bought his way up the ladder for the thrill and danger. Either way it's in the past. Some can't tell truth got here late. But here making blue to green jump. Any advice for safari?

[B]

Okay. Making a blue to green jump. I'm guessing he's going from the navy to the army. And any advice on Drew. Do you remember that stands for. Didn't you look this up just Tuesday?

[C]

Yes. Special Forces some readiness evaluation. Did I get it?

[B]

I don't know. Did you get it?

[C]

I don't know. I think I got it.

[A]

Okay, phone a friend.

[C]

Here's special Forces readiness evaluation.

[B]

Here's my advice. And I almost get special forces getting ready to go. The I almost said told you this. When, when you're getting jacked and going through a training course. This is a misconception people have of jacked operators. Do we have muscle bound operators? Absolutely. What did they look like in selection and during training? They were lean and mean and could do anything and I'm not saying get out of the weight room fighting machines. I stayed in the weight room as well. I wanted to keep some, some muscle, you know on me. Like don't go down to me I naturally around 200 pounds. Like don't get them down to 180 because that weight is going to come off now you're going to be down to 170 and you're not where you want. You're not going to be ready for long distances of that. Keep your weight up as much as possible. But run and ruck. Yeah, run and ruck and crush and crush. A old school army PT test and pull ups. Just be ready for everything. Be ready for everything. And when they throw everything at you

[A]

too like the especially being you know, middle aged and that's the thing is like you don't know exactly what you're preparing for. There's a lot of good things that you can you know use as a base to train with. Over preparing is the thing. It is you don't want to peak too soon. But the, but going into, you know, because of the resources that you have, like you know exactly what you need to work on.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Over time. And then you realize like I realized like I, I move a lot better at around 215 which I'm not right now. I'm about 225. So there's about 10 pounds that I, I need to shed.

[B]

HPTRT's got you. Don't you worry.

[A]

But my, my, my thing with that is knowing where you are, like listening to your body and, and it's not procrastination, it's just also being patient with adjusting versus pushing through pain because those injuries that you're pushing through, some things you're just going to have to endure like there.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

That's just. Endurance is a real thing.

[B]

But don't show up with an injury.

[A]

And, and as you're training and preparing, just be patient with yourself. Push yourself to be a little uncomfortable. But functional fitness is to me it's to be able to explode with force, to take a punch, to be able to deliver a punch, to be able to close the distance and repeat that over and over depending on what you're training for. But if you suck at running like I did and still do run, run.

[B]

Yeah, that's right. Like, yeah, you won't get better at

[A]

it by not doing push ups and sit ups, man burpees and pull ups. I tell people if you can't do 10 pull ups, you're not a man.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I stand and that's a challenge, dude, like for all of us. I'm, yeah, I'm being a bit harsh about the, it's for me like if I can't, if I, I don't careless how much I bench press. If I can't do push ups without stopping, do 60 without stopping. If I can't do 10 pull ups. If I can't, you know, run a mile and a half to two miles in, in you know, 14 minutes or under, like I need to. And if I can't sprint, get my heart rate back down, sprint again, get my heart rate back down, sprint again. Like that to me is. And get my body weight up and over things. Yeah.

[B]

The. Someone in the chats reminded me you got to be too something to do something.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

The end of the day you still got to be too something to do something though.

[A]

Can't replace that.

[C]

No.

[B]

What else we got?

[C]

Drew, Kyle, what's your thoughts on doing deliberate cqb when the walls aren't ballistic and doing it in the daytime. Also. When would you choose deliberate over dynamic and how did your former unit do it?

[B]

Well, that breaks down to about A$50 per question.

[A]

Yep. So I'll answer. I'll answer very broadly on this because.

[B]

But quickly.

[A]

I don't believe that. I believe that. Excuse me. I believe that all CQB is dynamic because you don't control the environment. You don't get to control the enemy. The who, what, when, where, why all the aspects. Is that cover or is that concealment? Have we still maintained the element of surprise? Do we have to announce our legal authority or presence based on the mission? Can we regain it structurally using the different. The tenets of cqb Surprise, speed and violence of action. But all of it should be deliberately done. Which to me if people equate deliberate and dynamic versus slow and fast man. It's in control. It's predictable. It's this. I'm in control of our tempo. And if you're predictable and I'm predictable, that's where that almost what looks choreographed is just all these non verbal cues and. And being. Because our awareness not to belabor this is our number one tool is seeing when. Hey man, we're in a bit of a confined space. It'd probably be better to do a little bit of a hybrid of what I would say is hostage rescue and direct action type mission to. To get off of this. This area to foothold something and then. Right. You have to try and move on to what's next.

[B]

You have to change gears.

[A]

But the biggest thing to answer this question from as. As best I can briefly is once you commit to going through the doorway, get out of the doorway. Making an unfair fight.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Dominate the room.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Let's see. Respect to Kyle for talking about those hard things. Along those lines. Do you guys have a hard time swallowing that a 21 year old thug killed or eliminated? Billy, I just have a lot of questions about how this could have happened.

[B]

You can get the jump on anyone. Anyone can get the jump. He wasn't on target. He had his guard down. He thought he was in a trusted area and he wasn't. And that's. That can happen to anyone.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But that goes back to. Just because you used to do a certain job doesn't mean that you're staying on top of those skills.

[B]

Right. Guess what? I'm probably gonna walk to my truck tonight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And not look over my shoulder every step I take. Like everyone's. You can't live on high alert.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You just can't.

[A]

It'll destroy you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And you shouldn't. Exactly. And you shouldn't.

[A]

Being situational is huge, Brent.

[C]

How about a run of brotherhood blades with the tier one logo for Patreon members. Take orders, get paid up front to avoid any of the riff raff. Truth and dark on Sunday, boys get educated.

[B]

Right wing gun nut. Not a bad idea. I'll. I'll, I'll run it by the boys at brotherhood Blaze.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Single officer response to active shooter. Are you doing one man's version of pod?

[B]

Everyone can have different versions of this. Make this a quick answer. That's the way I teach it. Because there should be people coming. Others are coming, others are coming. And you have to be predictable. And it's really hard to remember to do two different things in two different situations. So essentially do do the same thing. You're just gonna have to extend your sector but keep moving.

[A]

You have more freedom. Explore the space when you are solo.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

But initially, man, think about this like we want to. We want to split this shooter's attention. So I want to distract, isolate, neutralize this until I can put my physical presence between good and evil and to neutralize the threat. I don't want to run into the middle of the room because I'm splitting my attention. So applying the same principles of domination, points of domination. It still applies because I want to stack as many of the majority non threats to one side and find the one threat. So all the things that we teach with team based points of domination apply. It's just the hardest room to clear by yourself is a pool door, center fed room.

[B]

Yep. Absolutely.

[A]

But we got a technique for that. Yep. Doesn't mean you're not going to die. This is dangerous.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But we need the right people. Just instead of like badge holding and all these things like, oh, you know, we're teaching secrets, man. This is basic infantry tactics, man. An L shaped ambush. Guess what?

[B]

That's right.

[A]

It's just me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So now I got how to eat a crap sandwich.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

One bite at a time. Still crap though. So let's eat our crap.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What up boys? Great to see Delta Team 6 operators. You're on a 10 hour road trip. You can listen to Nickelback or Creed the whole way, which easy. For the record, I ironically say it look like both.

[B]

And listen daily when I lift Nickelback all day long. What they have the nickel? That's an easy question.

[A]

How are you there? Aren't. Isn't Creed from Orlando.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. A.

[B]

Gross. That's my answer. I don't even have to defend it. And if I have to defend it,

[A]

I don't know if that's.

[B]

I don't. You're not worth my time explaining why. That's the answer, Creed.

[A]

Greed all day. I'm gonna list through it on the whole way home. Thank you. Erica's like, oh, my God, stop.

[B]

You. You told that story at the end of our recorded podcast. If we ever have a competition, that's what we're playing for. Someone has to listen to Creed for. For hours, and someone has to listen to Nickelback, and that's. That's what we're playing for.

[A]

If it's shooting, I'm gonna win.

[B]

You are right now. I'll tell you that right now.

[C]

Sonny Mabry. Two for this week. Love it, brothers. Love y' all guys as well. Brent, what speaker do you have in there? Not Kyle. The speaker, actually. I remember when I was on. It was clear and had some bumpity bumps. Forgot to ask then, though.

[B]

Yeah, that's a. It looks like a Marshall. Old school Marshall guitar amp, but it's a. It's a Bluetooth speaker, and I love that thing.

[A]

It's 1 1.

[B]

Yeah. And it's 1 1.

[C]

The soccer.

[B]

Soccer one. Okay. 31. I called it.

[A]

We're not sponsored prime, so we're not going to say it.

[B]

Yeah, but I. I just bought a turtle box for d. You guys know what a turtle box is? They're a little bit expensive, but that's a. That's a great little Bluetooth speaker.

[A]

Turtle. Turtle.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[A]

And the f. Is that when the

[C]

volume goes in and out?

[B]

What's a turtle.

[C]

A turtle box. Is that when the volume goes in and out? Does it sound better when it's on its back?

[A]

I'm like, who said that?

[B]

All right.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

I don't know why I say things sometimes.

[C]

Because it's your show. Yeah.

[B]

Treat me like it,

[C]

then I quit. All right.

[B]

I bet you. I bet you wrote a tighter ship than this, don't you, Kyle?

[A]

I don't do this. So I like tens. Ends on the floor, my kids. I can't feel my eyeballs right now because all the cigar smoke.

[C]

You ain't seen nothing yet.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I do appreciate you sticking with me on the sobriety piece. I know that you're not absolutely.

[B]

No, that was it. Thank you.

[A]

Thank you for. That. Means a lot to me.

[B]

That was. That was. That was an easy call for me, Kyle.

[A]

Easy call hey, did you know if I could deal with drunk you.

[B]

I never get. I don't get drunk. I don't get drunk.

[C]

Hey, did you guys ever work with the Australian sas? What do you think of them and how did you rate them? Apart from funding, was there anything they lacked?

[B]

They were good. I worked with them a little bit. They were. I don't have anything bad to say about the Australian ses.

[A]

No, I. I never did any operations with them, but do a little bit of training with them.

[B]

Yeah. Same here.

[A]

Cut from the same cloth, man. Yeah.

[B]

Good dudes.

[A]

Good blokes.

[B]

Good blokes.

[C]

Solely loves this question. He asks it multiple times. SAS had guys stand next to targets with their heads right next to them. Then other SAs come into room and shoot live rounds in them as SEAL Team 6. Chris Fetis says this is dumb. And is it dumb or useful training?

[A]

This is crazy, man.

[B]

OTC used to do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Used to call the hot seat. A guy would go in there and they'd put the like the hostage taker target.

[A]

That's on one of like the oldest.

[B]

It's one of the old school videos.

[A]

Recruiting video.

[B]

We don't do that anymore. But. No, but trust me. Yeah, you. When you start doing fast enough, you're going to start shooting by your buddy's heads.

[A]

So we call them trust shots.

[B]

It's gonna happen. Yep. And you have to do it in training or if you can't do in training, you ain't can execute it. And it's a.

[A]

Well, a well timed and appropriate shot. Call is huge.

[B]

Yeah, it is.

[C]

L. Liz is. Finally get to see my people. Glad y' all won me in the divorce. Duplicate super chat. So Drew will read it.

[B]

Thank you, Liz. Another Patreon member.

[C]

When y' all go to New York, tell old mam Donnie to. Oh, right wing said suck it.

[B]

I don't think he'll be at the. At the event for veterans or. Or the memorial. He'll. He'll probably be celebrating that it happened. That dirty Muslim.

[C]

But if he can suck it. That's all I gotta say. Mom. Donnie, he's not a good guy.

[B]

We're gonna.

[C]

He's not a good guy. He's just. He sucks. Yeah. Right wing nut. If he's there, I'll say it. All right. Ezekiel says I send mine. Oh, that's Brett. Let me know when you are training the Atlantic City SWAT team. I am a firefighter at the Atlantic City airport. Oh, nice. And we would love to have you guys stop by the firehouse and show you around the place.

[A]

Heck, yeah.

[B]

I'm trying to think how to email me at the tier one podcast, gmail.com. and the message will get to me every.

[A]

Everyone.

[B]

If. If you're not a. If you're not. Or if you're a Patreon member, you can DM me on me on Patreon, but either way, you can get a hold of me those two ways.

[A]

If you try to text him, he won't answer.

[B]

I'm not a good friend.

[A]

I'm a friend of his.

[C]

I have some people text me to text Brent.

[A]

I will say when I call, though, it's different. He's like, oh, Kyle. I'm like, oh, hey.

[B]

Yeah. I don't look. I don't. I don't look off friends phone calls because I'm always worried if it's a phone. A text can be anything. This is a phone call. I. I'm always scared. It's some deep down.

[A]

Like, I feel like when I text you, you go. Like, when I call, you go, hey, Kyle.

[B]

Yeah, but I'll get like seven different text messages during a podcast, and then I have to answer it. Then it starts. Right. Then it starts compounding, and then it'll take me seven days to get around to them, But I do eventually.

[C]

All right, Brent, you mentioned forgiving someone, even if you don't want to, because it is the Christian thing to do. What is forgiveness? Why is it important? How does personal forgiveness compare. Contrast with Christian forgiveness?

[B]

How does personal forgiveness compare?

[A]

It's a gift.

[B]

So personal forgiveness and Christian forgiveness is actually one of the same. There. There is no the Bible. The Bible talks about that virtues from God.

[A]

It's a gift.

[B]

Gosh, I'm so bad with. With. With phrases or some sort of phrase about. About forgiveness or. Or hoping bad things or hatred and be like, it's. It's. It's like, it's. What do you got, Jacob?

[C]

If you allow me to get personal real quick.

[B]

Sure, but real quick.

[C]

When I was 17 years old, my dad pushed my mom in a drunken rage, and I almost shot him. And I didn't deal with that for 15 years. And when I finally started dealing with it, a lot of things started to happen for me in a positive way. But, yeah, I mean, it was bad, but I've had to forgive him a lot over the last 14 years. 15 years. But it healed me, and I didn't know I needed it.

[B]

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[C]

That's good.

[A]

This might be the drink of the summer. Okay. I like this one too. I'm rocking with it.

[B]

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[C]

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[B]

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[A]

It's releasing control eat at you.

[B]

It will eat at you. You have to forgive them.

[A]

It doesn't mean it's easy. It's not. It's not easy.

[B]

No, it ain't easy. We're humans.

[A]

But like if you think about he without sin cast the first stone, like that's something that if anyone could have stone, not Bathsheba the adulterous woman, it was, it was Jesus. And that's, that's, that was his response. And to me it's like that's biblical forgiveness. And that's where all of it derives from. Like I've been forgiven and washed in the blood of Christ. And that is what gives me the courage to forgive others, to ask for forgiveness. But it's a gift so don't expect because I'm doing it for me. Like I'm releasing that. And that's one of the most powerful things. I got to walk into the room, my dad in the ICU and, and see him like, man, that's my dad, you know, and, and I got to forgive him. I got to ask for forgiveness. Even though he wasn't talking to me, I know he heard me. And that, that was one of the greatest blessings that, that anchored my belief in the power of biblical forgiveness and where that comes from. Just.

[B]

I said make it quick. But the. We can always take time for a bible verse. Matthew 18, 21, 21. Then Peter came to him and said, lord, how often shall I shall My brother sin against me, and I forgive him till seven times. Jesus said to him, I say unto thee, until seven times, but until seventy times seven, which is basically him saying, keep doing it.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's. It's an ongoing number.

[C]

No way to count.

[B]

No way to count it.

[A]

And you shouldn't quantify it. It's. Keep. Keep doing it.

[B]

So there you go.

[A]

It doesn't mean there's not consequences for behaviors, for actions.

[B]

Correct?

[C]

Right.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Like, that's absolutely very different. But. But it's also the heart. The heart posture of, like, I'm going to correct this person or they need to ask me for forgiveness. Like, you don't control them. All right.

[C]

Worst firefight you've both been in?

[B]

The one I got shot in because I got shot.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's pretty simple.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

One wasn't the longest one, but it was the worst one.

[C]

I love it. Great answer.

[A]

The stairwell, the Radisson. Pretty intense.

[C]

Kyle, waiting to get into a paramedic program. Was wondering if I could end up specializing in active shooter response as a first responder. Also. Brent, I appreciate the advice. When we spoke on the phone a while back.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I. Man. I think the RTF model, the rescue task force is. Is great, but there's got to be more. And I think the tac med model that's applied with tactical teams across the country needs to be adopted across the country in an active shooter protocol. So 1000%.

[C]

Do you forgive terrorists you fought and did you respect them as fighter? As fighters, Brent. Respected them.

[A]

Do I forgive the terrorists I fought? I try my best to forgive everybody, but. But it's respecting them as fighters. For a majority of my career, no, I will say fighting against ISIS was. It changed my perspective a bit about them as fighters being so hardened. So I. I gained a lot more respect where it was kind of missing for a long time. Not for why they did what they did, just their determination. Tenacity.

[B]

But here's the other thing. Do. Do I forgive them? Are they asking for forgiveness? Not to my. Not. Not to my knowledge.

[C]

That's just something people with resentment say.

[A]

Yes, big brother Drew.

[C]

Okay, let's see. Well, if someone listening is considering entering, ending their existence on Earth, what would you tell them?

[A]

Wait,

[B]

it's. Listen, the whole thing. It's. It's okay to give up. It is. It's okay to give up. It's the same advice I give it. Anyone that was in a selection, give up tomorrow.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And when tomorrow comes, it's the same Answer give up tomorrow. And if it's always tomorrow, it'll get better. Just not today. Not today.

[C]

How ARMS says I'm ready to be in Florida. Hope to see you guys in a week. Final. Got to watch most of the show. Everything we have is only through the grace of God.

[B]

Thank you, sir.

[A]

Amen. Look forward to seeing you.

[C]

Has the unit ever looked at using the constraints led approach cla to learn and improve a problem solving. It's currently being used by all major professional sports teams.

[B]

I don't know what it is. I don't like the word constraints right off the bat, but that means, that means. Yeah, I don't know what it means. The unit is always looking to improve and, and, but this is.

[A]

If there's validity to it, if there's a guarantee. There's already been some exploration with it.

[B]

But one thing the unit doesn't have a problem with, and that's problem solving. Yeah, they're really, really good at it.

[C]

Lieutenant Diane back in. Thanks for the advice, Brent. Driving My Life Away by Eddie Rabbit for us boys. Keeping America moving for the outro.

[B]

Thank you, Lieutenant Dan.

[C]

Brent, do you remember where you were when you heard about Kyle and the terrorist attack? What was your reaction and to Kyle? Same question regarding when Brent was shot. Love the show. Matt from Nashville, man, that's a good question.

[B]

I don't re. I don't remember when exactly I heard about it. I just don't remember when. I mean, obviously the whole unit knew about it, but it, it's in a weird. I don't have like that like 911 moment. Like I know exactly where, where I was like, type thing. I mean it was a big deal, but I, I just don't remember. Yeah, for whatever reason, I.

[A]

What year was you got shot? 2017.

[B]

2014.

[A]

2014.

[B]

And then again, you may not even. Who knew. Who knows when you even heard that. That I got shot. It may have been way after and then. So it wasn't a big deal. Like, oh, I saw it the other day. He got shot.

[A]

Crazy. I remember seeing you in recovery downstairs with the pts.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And man, that's the, that's the, the part that like as much time as we spent together, like once you go across the hall to where you went and where I went and like we're all doing the same things just on different timings and you lose sight of. Of so much. Even in our organization, former organization, to include like guys that I was on ODA with that are in a different. They were in a different squadron as well. I'd see him in the hallway once a year and be like, oh, man. To catch up. I gotta run, man. I'm late.

[B]

I guess it's different when you saw me after I got shot doing PT because you don't have that same feeling. Are you okay?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, you got shot. I can see you. You're fine. Yeah, I do.

[A]

I do remember hearing about it and not hearing the whole story, and I was like, what did he do this time?

[B]

That's fair.

[A]

No, I was obviously worried about you, but not enough to be like, hey, how are you? How could we do this?

[B]

That was fine. It's just a scratch.

[A]

He's a tough guy.

[C]

All right, that's the super chat. So we've got one last one here for both of you. Do you think Special Forces Delta guys are born or made? Thank you for the story about Josh last week. We're from the same hometown.

[B]

Love that. It's gonna be a weird, weird question, a weird answer. A little bit of both. I think it's a little bit of both. I think there are people who are born, and no matter how much they try, they'll just never make it to that level, and that's life. But I don't think you're just born into it, and it's just a. It's just gonna happen, and it's a given.

[A]

Yeah, I'd agree. I do think circumstances are real, and you don't know what you don't know. And that's where being a positive male role model for especially our youth is so important. Because if they're inspired by something that I'm doing or maybe even something I'm saying, like, that's. That's. I love that. Because not all of us have, you know, good environments growing up, and we don't know our own potential. It's untapped potential, and that's what to be a. That's a part of my mission is to be a positive role model for my wife, my children, and my team and then our community or just society. So

[B]

some people paid good money.

[A]

They did.

[B]

To see Kyle dance to this.

[A]

That's all I got. You got to keep it right here.

[B]

That's a freebie.

[A]

They didn't.

[B]

That. You didn't have to pay for that. That's.

[A]

This guy's a sellout.

[B]

Give the trap dance.

[A]

No, this is just me being me.

[C]

Give the Trump dance. There it is.

[B]

That's the show. Boys and patriots, thank you so much for joining. Let's see what we got got here in the Regular chat. Let's see what we got. Let's see what we got. See. Find one here. I've been shot by USA military but they miss every time. Think their guns jammed, they said. Or they just may have been a bad shot. Things that never happened for 500. Alex. Dusty go. Tiger says I'll pay if he never dances again.

[A]

Show me the money.

[B]

I will say that I did text Brent happy birthday. And it only took two weeks to get a response. But there was a response. Thank you, Dwazi. Oh man.

[C]

Right here.

[B]

Gotcha. Gotcha Britain. Kyle, what are your EDCS holsters? Kyle, what is your current EDC and is the 43X still good?

[A]

I think the.43X could still be a very viable option, but I. I run the. This is something that my training directors helped me kind of come to. Is a Glock 45 compensated with with a Magwell. And that's. It's in my bag. It's. It's what I carry. It's what I train on the range with. Doing the duty bait, you know, tax collection stuff. So now I get to carry one pistol instead of multiple when I travel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know, it's. Well, like I said, the gun that you use is in the gun that you have is the best gun to use. I don't. I don't have a. I will say smaller frame pistols are harder to shoot.

[B]

They are easier.

[A]

Easier to conceal because I'm.

[B]

I'm always ready. I lied. I lied when I said I didn't live on high alert. I. Do you want to see my edc? It's right here, buddy. I just carry it in my hand.

[A]

Five finger death punch.

[B]

All the time. I just carry it in my hand. Be a man. Carry it around. What are you hiding? Why you hiding your gun? Not me. Not me.

[C]

Brent, do this one, please.

[B]

You got it. Sup guys? Your thoughts on tritium site G? There's.

[A]

Use a white light, man.

[B]

There you go. Let's see. Chucky D. Kyle, after you retire, did any 5 star hotel try to hire you as a hotel security? Best hotel security in the world.

[A]

Yeah, buddy.

[B]

I don't know why you're not making

[A]

not the country but the world as

[B]

a hotel security guard.

[A]

I wasn't that good.

[C]

The.

[A]

I did carry the staccato seat for a while.

[B]

I. I like staccato. I just. I do. Let's see here. Yeah, there it goes. Gucci says staccato. How were the Kurds to work with? The Kurds were great to work with.

[A]

They really Said, quit crossing your legs like a girl.

[C]

He can't even see. Prince legs make me.

[A]

Make me.

[B]

I love it. Hey, guess what? If only it was as easy, see, as being a man is, is how you cross your legs. I'll tell you what's a little bit harder than showing you're a man. I don't know, becoming a Green Beret and going the Delta Force, I think that shows a little bit more manhood than how you cross your legs. But hey, if crossing your legs is the way you show your man, that's a pretty low bar, so. And that's a great thing about living a life that Kyle's live. You don't have to do anything that you don't want to prove your man. You've already done it. And you get to. And you get to carry that around the rest of your life all serious. I like the Delta Force, okay. I just do. Thank you. Salmon. Salmon. Thank you, Simon. And. Oh, they put it in a super chat. Thank you. Let's see. Crypto. Airborne. It just doesn't matter. But I'll say it's almost like the guys that are also like, oh, you drink Mick Ultra. I drink Jack Daniels. Okay. I shot people in the face.

[A]

You don't chew Big Red. You don't shoot Big Red. Then you.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Can you do 10 pull ups?

[B]

Let's see here. Ever work with the IDF? A little bit of training with them. They're good dudes. You ever do anything. You ever go to over to Israel for anything? Just.

[A]

They came to us.

[B]

Good. Good experience with them. Yeah, yeah, they treated me really good over there.

[A]

And that's not. I'm not. I'm not speaking for IDF at large, but the specific units.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, but once all you get. I don't know what that is.

[A]

Safariland. Incog X. Use our code. Made me. Save yourself a few bucks for EDC over.

[B]

I know it's gone long enough, but some people paid good money to listen to some music and. And for us, hang out in the chats. And you will. And you will get it. So we got two more songs.

[C]

Let's see Nickelback later tonight.

[B]

Wherever I may roam. I have no problem playing that one. Where are we? No, not.

[C]

Not live.

[B]

I don't want you live. No one wants it live. Boom. Got it. No, no, Drew, don't do that. For such a nice Christian man. Drew's kind of a jerk sometimes, don't you think?

[A]

He's trying to write the ship dude.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Trying to show you nobody's Perfect. Brent.

[B]

Hot Dog shirts in the mail back at 1pm today, making everyone in the truck stop restroom. Listen here. Thank you, Lieutenant Dan. Oh, I love this song. Cody Fisher, you seem like a. A man that's traveled the world. Oh, wait, we have Michael Hendrick. Nickelback is the official soundtrack of the idea. Oh, is that. I like the idf, so I don't know if that's a bad thing, you

[A]

know, I don't know.

[B]

I guess that's how you. It's how you see it. Let's see here. What else have we got? Oh, Led Zeppelin for the win. Unpopular opinion. I like Led Zeppelin. I think they have a. They have some great songs, but they have this like, huge name and rock. I'm not saying they. I just don't think they're as big as they should be. And there's. That's gonna piss some people off. I know that. I'm not saying they're bad. I just. To me, you want to know a worse one than that? The Grateful Dead. They're worse. I will never understand why the Grateful Dead is such a cult following. Do they have some good songs? Sure, but. Oh, let's see.

[A]

Oh,

[B]

Billy Baddy. I love Metallica. Every album. See here. I saw Metallica live in fourth grade. You got cool parents. Yeah, I just saw Metallica live with Devin and Charlotte beginning of this year. Maybe end of last year, but I think it's the beginning of this year. And it was. It was a Pantera open for him and then Metallica came on. It was an awesome, awesome show.

[A]

It's impressive. Still playing. Yeah.

[B]

What was the last concert you've been. You went to?

[A]

I don't go to concerts. Loud music really upsets me. Yeah, no, it's. I. I love me. I love music, man, but having these headphones on helps. Like, the last concert I went to was actually with.

[B]

Well, I have to have it certain,

[A]

but I had to walk away like, because it's just too. Too much. But my. My wife loves taking the kids to concerts.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

They go to concerts all the time.

[B]

Some turtle box. Turtle box. Turtle box. I see what you did did there. I saw Metallica and. God, smack in kindergarten, dude. Just one up and guys, really did. I think it was just a one Upper Whiskey Tango, Fox Rock. Grateful Dead is hippie communism. Dirty orangey peeps. Okay.

[A]

She knows I'm wearing her pants, so it's okay.

[B]

Just another 11. Bravo. I saw Metallica and SLC in 1997. Oh, that's. That is awesome. Let's see what else Gavin. 50. Brit. Taking on Deadheads might be your bravest move yet. I know they got a cult following. I'm. I'm aware. I'm aware.

[C]

Side quest.

[B]

How much would 50 grenades actually work? Weigh about a little over 50 pounds.

[A]

It's like 1.1 pounds.

[B]

Nicholas. Oh, Nicholas Whacker. White, purple or other flavor monster?

[A]

Purple's good. Purple drink.

[C]

Purple stuff.

[B]

I think you got some residual bombs of her Baghdad Hanging. Hanging around.

[A]

You get some purple drink.

[C]

He's good.

[A]

Are you looking at me or Drew right now?

[C]

He's good.

[B]

One aisle Egypt. Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

I thought you just look

[B]

tasty.

[C]

Gains.

[A]

Brit.

[B]

I need to ride the vet. Get on down here. I'll. I'll. I'll at least show you everything she's got. I drive that thing like I stole it every time I started up and I love it. Brody Martin. Kyle deserves the medal of honor. My man is so humble, but earned it. Let's do it. Let's start a ground swell on this man. I can't believe how many of our listeners have seen Metallica in concert. I saw him in 94 in Sacramento. Frank says sipping on a scissor. El Rack Shadow. Yeah, I know.

[A]

These are the loyalists that are still here, right?

[B]

They are. I know. Edwards, Glover, and now Morgan. I. I know. We've. It's three sucks. Solid. Solid lives. Oh, let's see what else we get. Oh, boy.

[A]

Whoa. Look under the hood, dude.

[B]

Forget the device, Magnet. I am. He's not. It's not my fault.

[C]

I don't know why they don't connect.

[B]

I'm three feet away from it. Magnet's phone is the strongest Bluetooth phone I've ever met. There's not a Bluetooth device that I own that he can't overpower me on. Oh. Alison Chains live. Never seen them live. Closest thing to Metallica concert for me is playing Guitar Hero. Metallica.

[A]

Yeah. It's hard.

[B]

Oh, man. Laughs. Let's see here. Of course they know what they did with picking long songs. They know it. They. They know what they did. The last one won't be that long. Here we go. Last one of the night. And this was for old Bo from 50 for the fallen.

[C]

All right, guys, while he gets that going, I want to remind everybody. Like and subscribe, please. Like and subscribe. We're trying to get to a hundred thousand followers before the end of the year.

[A]

Let's go.

[C]

Let's make it happen. Make it happen right now.

[B]

Hit the button. Hit the button.

[A]

Also follow Blueberries channel.

[B]

Yes. Absolutely.

[C]

Follow that before you follow truth. I mean, for tier one, Dark. Whatever.

[B]

Did you know this was the greatest and best song in the world?

[A]

Is this Tenacious D tribute? This is the greatest song in the world.

[C]

He has a nice beard.

[B]

Tribute.

[A]

Tribute.

[B]

I love it. Tool goes hard. Do they still play in the dark? I think at one time, Tool played in a completely blacked out stage. Mayard still does. Yeah. All of a sudden, are there more Rangers or Green Berets in cag? It. It fluctuates. It fluctuates, but does. We're looking for the. We're not looking for Rangers. We're not looking for Green Berets. We're looking for the best. Toker. The Green said. I tongue punched that, like, button so hard.

[C]

Careful.

[B]

Love. Love the enthusiasm. Love. Not needed. Not needed. But who's older, Kyle or Brent? I got a. He's got a few years. 42 in three days.

[A]

Yeah, 42.

[B]

Yeah. Nice.

[A]

So 41.

[B]

Let's see here. Yum's going for Rangers after Airborne. Good for you.

[A]

You didn't finish that. Brent looks like he has more miles.

[B]

I didn't see that.

[A]

Did you leave that out?

[B]

Did that what they said or you adding that?

[A]

No. I don't know. It's on there.

[B]

It's on there.

[A]

Somehow I could still read that.

[B]

Let's see. What did the fox say? No, one better don't. That better not gain traction, Frank. UWX says more SF there. Their sign. That's true. Let's see.

[A]

No walking on our dens. That's absolutely correct. Freaking Airborne.

[B]

This is not the greatest song in the world. No. This is just a tribute. What? I couldn't remember the greatest song in the world. No, no. Oh, this is a tribute. Oh. Oh. This song gets me going. And good thing I didn't drink tonight.

[A]

Good. Thank you.

[C]

He's the greatest voice of our generation now coming to the stage.

[A]

Yeah. Keep it here the whole time, bud. That was good. That was impressive.

[C]

You have the voice of an angel. A fallen angel.

[B]

A fallen angel. I know the rest of the listeners are going to be upset. They're going to be upset. They miss it. Bo knew what he was doing when he requested this song. He knows. I can't help myself. You did this to me.

[C]

Bo knows.

[A]

Do it.

[B]

Someone clip that. Best song in the world. There was a time I could sing that whole song word for word. Sitting next to Bo, screaming it in this car. The C cords going to the Cadillac Ranch.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah, I know the place.

[B]

Or Charleston on a Long weekend in Lang with school or Charlotte.

[C]

All right.

[B]

It was the greatest song in the world. That is a wrap. We'll send it around the room for closing statements as we always do. Jacob, what say you?

[C]

Seriously guys, thanks for having me up here tonight. It's a pleasure meeting you at Florida Man Games. Pleasure meeting you, Kyle. I knew a little bit about your story and now I'm going to go investigate more.

[A]

Let me know.

[C]

I'm just so pleased to be here. And if anybody needs any high quality beard products. Baneblends.com Absolutely. Yeah. And my lovely wife is the co owner and a Marine. Former Marine and just love doing what we're doing. Making high quality stuff. Good stuff. Thanks.

[B]

Love it. Lion, what do you got? Magnet.

[A]

I'm not gonna follow either of you

[B]

and I'm not gonna do any research

[C]

on either about that.

[A]

Good, good.

[B]

What is lion from Magnet Arms want to say and the reason why my thing hits it?

[C]

Because it's a magnet. It gets your Bluetooth every time.

[B]

Yeah. Strong magnets.

[A]

Problem solved.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Go check out the website guys.

[C]

Linearms USA.com.

[B]

you got it.

[C]

The sport.

[B]

Drew, what say you?

[C]

Bible Study, 7pm at Truth in the Dark, 7pm Eastern. Truth in the Dark. YouTube. It's live. Invite you guys to be there. Also go to frcc. Shop for the best cigars, coffee and bourbon in the whole world.

[B]

Some people say he ain't wrong.

[C]

Do it greatest ever.

[B]

Kyle, as the guest of honor. You get the last word. What say you?

[A]

Okay, well, first and foremost I just wanted to thank. No, I. This has been a great experience, man. I'm glad that I did the live. I look forward to the podcast coming out. So be on the lookout for that if you're going to be training with us next week. I'm speaking Monday. Brent speaking. And then we're doing two days of training for Florida SWAT Association's first active active shooter training conference here in Lakeland, Florida. And check us [e-mail] for any of the training stuff, any of the merchandise. Join us on Blue Bearings Patreon. That's where we do things just like you do with your Patreon that are more exclusive bonus episodes. The Black and Blue podcast are seen there. Our fellowship is ran through there. Not that I want to charge for fellowship, but it does keep the right people there and five bucks a month for that. And I'm running the fellowship tomorrow night, 8:30 Eastern. So something you can count on and lean on. Other than that, I look forward to the future and growing together and everyone's

[B]

always looking for a cool shirt. And. And the with you.

[A]

With you.

[B]

The with you shirt. You guys go go to his website. Look at it. It has a shoot house overhead of it, but it forms across and it says with you, which is a term we use in CQB to say, hey, you're not alone. I'm with you. I think it's one of the coolest shirts.

[A]

You don't have to look back, man. I'm with you heart and soul. And that's a way to walk around in life.

[B]

Exactly. So you want to wear a cool shirt and also help support Kyle. Go grab that shirt. You'll get the better end of that. Deal. All right, guys, thanks so much for hanging out with us this whole time. We will see you again. I think we have another one next Thursday night, don't we, Drew?

[C]

Do you know I have to look at the calendar? I'm a one day at a time guy.

[B]

Let's just assume we do. I'm almost positive we do. All right, guys, see you next Thursday night.

[A]

Take care. Thank you.

[C]

Good night.

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