Ranger Recon Company RRC | Mike Edwards Tier1 Live

Summary

Tier1 Podcast Live: Ranger Recon Company RRC | Mike Edwards (June 12, 2026)

Host: Brent Tucker
Guest: Mike Edwards (Former Ranger Regiment RRD/RRC)
Producer: (Guest spot: Cam Fuller, Drew is traveling)

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Episode Overview

This live episode of Tier1 Podcast, hosted by former Delta Force operator Brent Tucker, features an in-depth, candid Q&A session with Mike Edwards, a veteran of the elite Ranger Reconnaissance Detachment (RRD, later RRC). The conversation dives into special operations culture, training, war stories, technology, leadership, ethics, and the realities and challenges of modern military service. The tone is direct, humorous, and occasionally philosophical, with active engagement from Patreon supporters via super chats.

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Table of Contents

• Current Events & Light Banter ([00:10])
• Addressing Claims & SOF Reputation ([05:11])
• Equipment Evolution: Night Vision ([07:41])
• Rangers vs. Infantry: Training & Standards ([10:50])
• Special Operations: Selection & Capability ([16:05])
• Grit, Manhood, and Modern Culture ([19:24])
• Authenticity, Media, and Hollywood ([97:07])
• Recce Culture & Unheralded Roles ([101:26])
• Technology & The Future of Warfare ([46:48], [55:50])
• Selection Experience: RRC Deep Dive ([88:04])
• Reflections: War, Camaraderie, and Loss ([118:16])
• Women in Special Operations ([133:22])
• Foreign Units & Inter-Unit Relations ([127:05])
• Approach to Leadership & Military Reform ([106:17])
• Post-Service Reflections ([131:02])
• ‘Would You Rather?’, Q&A, and Humor ([128:08], [50:02], throughout)
• Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (throughout)
• Closing & Shout-outs ([164:01])

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Current Events & Light Banter ([00:10] – [04:42])

• Opening with NBA Finals banter, highlighting differences between Texas and New York culture, and playfully trashing New York.
• Set-up for audience Q&A, light venting to let more viewers settle in.

"I just wanted them to have a bad night and watch New York lose because I think that's what New York deserves as a city." - Brent ([03:12])

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2. Special Operations Reputation & Inter-Unit Relations ([05:11] onward)

• Addressing controversial claims (e.g., alleged misconduct by Rangers early in Iraq) and asserting the importance of source credibility.
• On reputation between Delta and Rangers:
  • Both Brent and Mike strongly assert that mutual respect grew over years of war.
  • Early shortcomings were common to all SOF; everyone evolved under pressure.
  • Night vision use as a paradigm shift during GWOT; Rangers led in infantry tech evolution.

"All of us... The amount of people that I've interviewed... basically all admitted how much they sucked and weren't really ready for war." – Brent ([06:54])

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3. Equipment Evolution & Night Vision Culture ([07:41] – [10:35])

• War stories about the introduction and rapid improvement of night vision equipment (PVS-7s, PVS-14s, Panos).
• Anecdotes about the vital role of technology—and how Ranger exposure to advanced kit leapfrogged regular infantry.

"Do you know how many people murdered people wearing PVS-14s?... It is more than capable." – Brent ([09:01])

“I rocked those [PVS-15s] the majority of the GWOT... But then I threw on a set of 31s; oh my God, this is so much better.” – Mike ([09:28])

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4. Rangers vs. Infantry: Training, Standards & MOS Structure ([10:50] – [14:46])

• Detailed discussion of Ranger Regiment’s 11B MOS retention and its impact—higher standards for retention and rapid removal of underperformers (“turds”).
• Ranger Regiment’s pride in culture, standards, and funding outpacing even some full branches.

"One Ranger battalion gets more funding for ammo than the entire United States Marine Corps? I don't know if that's true, but..." – Mike ([14:04])

• Culture, esprit de corps—the “Ranger difference”—is highlighted as the core driver of elite performance.

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5. Special Operations Selection & Capabilities ([16:05] – [27:44], [88:04]–[91:43])

• Detailed Q&A on unit selection (RRC vs. Delta), mutual respect, perceived capabilities in firefights, and myth-busting.
• RRC’s specific excellence: long-range tactical reconnaissance, military freefall insertions, and strategic intelligence gathering, distinct from Delta’s broader Tier 1 role.
• Candid discussion on RRC selection: physical standards are tough, but the board/interview is the real filter for mindset and suitability—”not everyone who makes it physically is wired right.”
• Both selection experiences described as brutal, comprehensive, and effective at screening for the right “wiring.”

“RRC is very small… and within that, when it comes to tactical reconnaissance and infiltrating with military freefall into an austere drop zone, I'd say RC is the best, hands down. But Delta Force has a much more robust organization.” – Mike ([16:05])

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6. Manhood, Grit, and Modern Culture ([19:24] – [25:42])

• Both hosts laments erosion of "manliness" and assert the need for men to lead morally and physically.
• Strong critique of cultural double-standards—mocking current race and gender politics.
• Philosophy: capability for violence doesn't mean violence—true manhood is controlled, protective, and principled.

“Things have gone awry in this country to some degree. But you know who's at fault for it? Men… Men let it happen.” – Brent ([21:09])

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7. Technology & The Future of Warfare ([46:48] – [49:55], [55:50] – [58:17])

• Will robots/drones replace operators?
  • Both hosts argue humans will always be needed for tasks requiring empathy, adaptive problem-solving, and direct control, especially in things like hostage rescue and recce in complex environments.
  • Large-scale robot war seen as possible, but not a full replacement.
  • Energy supply for robots discussed as limiting factor for endurance—humans still have the edge for sustained field ops.

“Even if we go to robots, humans will always be the backup. What happens if you hit them with an EMP?” – Brent ([48:48])

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8. War Stories, Leadership, and Respect for the Enemy ([27:54] – [39:32], [118:16] – [121:50])

• Respect for enemy fighters—Chechens, foreign fighters in Afghanistan—were acknowledged as skillful, often experienced adversaries.
• Candid admission: “If you don’t respect your enemy, you’re ignorant.”
• Close calls in combat—both nearly shooting friendlies due to night vision and fog-of-war confusion, and the near-misses left deep emotional scars.
• Honest talk about the fun, humor, and camaraderie that exists even in war.

“We had better technology, better tactics… but we must respect our enemy.” – Mike ([27:54])

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9. Ethics: SOF Stories Going Public ([43:42] – [46:32], [84:23]–[87:59])

• Should Tier 1 operators speak publicly?
  • Brent: Whiteside (non-Tier 1) stories are fair game; Tier 1 war stories should be shared with great caution, omitting TTPs/capabilities, to safeguard future ops.
  • Mike: The stories matter to inspire and inform, but professionalism and secrecy about TTPs/capabilities are non-negotiable.
  • Both have received both criticism and praise from their peers.

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10. Inter-Unit Relations & Foreign Units ([30:02], [127:05], [146:29])

• Some Q&A on working with SEAL Team 6, Delta’s Gray Squadron, and international special ops (SSR, SAS).
• Most interactions positive—minimal friction—though occasional inter-service rivalry was acknowledged.
• Foreign unit cooperation was limited, especially for Tier 1, due to OPSEC.

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11. Hollywood, Media, and Narrative Wars ([97:07] – [101:06], [135:01])

• Discussion on how Hollywood often distorts military stories to fit social/narrative agendas.
• Comparison of real recon work (long, dirty, often boring) vs. the hyped film versions.
• Some examples of legitimate, true-to-life actions inspiring films—but dramatizations omit harsh realities.

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12. Leadership Development, Reform, and Culture ([106:17], [147:34])

• Both critique current trends toward lowering physical and performance standards, especially in the name of inclusion.
• Advocate a single, demanding standard—“you can make it or you can’t.”
• Strong preference for “Mustang” officers with enlisted service (“4 years as enlisted would do more for officers than 4 years in college”).

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13. Post-Service Reflections, Mental Health, and Community ([131:02], throughout)

• Both happier after service, applying lessons learned to next chapters.
• Stress importance of community, faith, and “paying it forward.”
• Conversation blends the serious and humorous, showing enduring bond amongst SOF alumni and the ongoing role of service.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Do you know how many people murdered people wearing PVS-14s?... It is more than capable.” – Brent ([09:01])
• “I enjoyed killing those people. It was fun for me… but I don't look at it that way necessarily anymore." – Mike ([31:42])
• “We did what was required for the guys to come in… and they get back on a helicopter high-fiving and act like you never existed.” – Brent on reconnaissance thanklessness ([101:26])
• “If not for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.” – Brent ([25:17])
• "A lot of the most elite units are probably going to have the least awards when you really get down to it." – Mike ([136:57])
• On selection: "You can take a dude who’s not a leader… and he could be a mediocre leader, but he's not going to be great." – Mike ([54:41])
• “Women in Ranger Regiment? I think it’s completely wrong… It builds a dynamic within a team that’s just not conducive to productivity.” – Mike ([133:22])
• “Humans will always be the backup. What happens if you hit them with an EMP?” – Brent ([48:48])
• “The mind will show you what you want to see… it happens all the time.” – Brent ([40:35])
• “The most serious of times is the funniest of times.” – Brent ([32:32])
• “That’s a great question for you… It doesn’t matter what unit you came from—it’s the person over the unit. It’s who you are as a man.” – Brent ([161:44])
• “Our mission was to jump into Biop [Baghdad International]. They were estimating 75 casualties just from the planes.” – Mike on Iraq jump ([81:10])
• "The best time [in war] is on a really good team with your best friends... The worst night was when we lost John Dunbar and our SAS counterpart, Matt Tunroe." – Brent ([118:46]–[120:22])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [05:11] – SOF Reputation; popular claims and myth-busting
• [07:41] – Night vision, GWOT tech evolution
• [10:50] – Rangers vs. Infantry & MOS culture
• [16:05] – Tier 1 selection and comparison, RRC vs Delta
• [19:24] – Culture, manliness, and modern America
• [27:54] – Respect for enemy, war stories
• [39:32] – Fratricide/fog-of-war and personal accounts
• [46:48] – Robots, AI, and the future of CQB
• [55:50] – Will drones make infantry/ODAs obsolete?
• [88:04] – Deep dive: RRC selection—physical, mental, board/process
• [97:07] – Media/Hollywood and the myth of “glamorous” SOF life
• [101:26] – The often unappreciated recce role
• [106:17] – If you could change the US military (one standard)
• [118:16] – Best and worst times in war—team, camaraderie, loss
• [133:22] – Women in the Regiment and culture
• [146:29] – Foreign special ops (SSR, SAS) experiences

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Additional Highlights & Community Moments

• Tier1 Podcast Patreon and live chat feature: real-time Q&A with super fans, giveaways (digital panos night vision kit).
• Lighthearted “would you rather?” and animal fight hypotheticals for comic relief.
• Story of a genuine “mustard stain” combat jump into Iraq; classic helmet stories.
• Post-service focus on fitness, integrity, and faith—"key to happiness is [not] in the military; it’s in that book [the Bible] right there."

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Tone & Language

The episode maintains a frank, brotherly, and often humorous tone—balancing deep operational insight with jokes, ribbing, infectious laughter, and humility. Both Brent and Mike are candid about mistakes, learning, and how worldviews evolved over years of service and combat experience.

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In sum:
This Tier1 Podcast Live is a masterclass in both the realities and myth-busting of special operations life: hard but often joyful, deeply human, and never without a sense of humor—or an eye on the big picture.

Transcript

[A]

Do you believe we're live?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Did it ask you again go live?

[B]

Yep. I think we're good.

[A]

You've done it. By golly, you've done it. And on time, as always. It's what we do. 8:00 clock start times. That's our new thing. That's our new thing. Welcome. Welcome to another episode of the Tier one Podcast Live. That means it's Thursday, Thursday nights. I'm your host, Brent Tucker. With us in the guest seat, we got Mike Edwards, former rrd, rrc, and we'll explain all of that from Ranger Regiment. As always, we got the men on the couch. A new one. We got old Patreon Steve in the house. Welcome the show, brother. And as always, holding it down on that side of the couch, magnet from Lion Arms. Absolutely. And we got a guest producer tonight because Drew was on the road. Cam Fuller, what's going on? That's right. We may be giving away some panos tonight as well, which we're. We're a week late, but it's for a good reason. Had to go to Nashville. Sometimes you got to go to Nashville. We'll find out all that in a lot more, Cam. Let's do it, Sam. All right, let's go wide there, Cam. We got a lot of things to cover. I know. As. As. As people flood in. I hate to start this one out. So to start it out with this, because, Mike, I don't. I don't think this is your forte, but then again, I don't wanna. I don't want to pigeonhole you. You ready for this question?

[C]

Let's do it. Let's do it.

[A]

I can't wait for this. What do you think about the NBA Finals? With the spurs, the Knicks?

[C]

Yeah, you're right. This is my forte. I'm not too much of a sports guy, but, hey, I'll see what your take is on it.

[A]

Here's the thing. I don't care a whole lot about the NBA. I just. I just don't. But when you got Texas versus New York, it piques my interest. It just does. I just don't like New York City. I like Texas. And the last night, like, the stars came out. Taylor Swift, of course, is on the sideline. You know, Seinfeld's on the sideline. David, what's his name, that created comedian does all that. The shows, like, always. Not always Southern Philadelphia.

[C]

I'm trying to think Copperfield.

[A]

No, no, no, no. Old Jewish guy does all. I think he wrote Seinfeld. Larry David.

[C]

Gosh.

[A]

And Curb your enthusiasm. Is anyone's trying to think of. Anyway, all the stars are out. San Antonio's crushing. What was it cam by 22, 20, 29 points.

[B]

At one point.

[A]

29 points and I couldn't. So they were. They. The Knicks were up at 1.20 in the series. Then they come. Then the Spurs. That goes to New York. The spurs steel one. It's now 2:1. I'm hoping the spurs go 2:2 and tie it. And I just watch them completely blow this lead and all the people that pretty much can't stand in the world getting to celebrate it and enjoy their night when I know this sounds so petty of me, but I just wanted. I just wanted them to have a bad night and watch New York lose because I think that's what New York deserves as a city. What's that last second shot know. Missed the last second shot and then a tip back. Anyway, I don't want to spend too much time on it. But it is. It is current events and it did happen and we got to do something to let people come in and I. And I have. And I have to vent about it. Just not. Not happy. I'm venting about basketball. Yeah. What I should be most unhappy about is that I care anything about an NBA game. That's what I should be. That's what I should be most kind of. But again, it's not about the NBA. It's. It's. It's. It's a battle and, and geographies is what battle?

[C]

In manlihood and manhood kind of somehow, I guess maybe. Yeah. Anyway.

[A]

All right, let's. Let's kick it off where we get in some other things we got. We'll update you guys with the Carmelo Anthony case. There's an interesting story of all places out of the University of Wisconsin that I. I'd like to get to. But first let's hear from you guys because Mike, I think they just want to hear from you. Think you have some questions already lined up for you. So let's get into it.

[C]

Let's do it.

[A]

Cam, that's you. What do you got? From the top.

[B]

All right, so the first one we got is from solely. 1, 2, 3, 4. All wheel drive two. So it says McPhee and Sean Ryan interview at 2 hours 59 minutes 17 seconds. Says Rangers killed civilians for no reason and at start of Iraq cause unnecessary casualties.

[A]

Well, if there's one person you can believe in the special operations world, that's Shrek Maphee. He's just a straight Shooter. He never exaggerates and he tells it like it is. So since that's obviously the truth, why. Why. Why'd the Rangers do it?

[C]

Well, I guess they did it to fulfill Shrek's dreams. You know what I mean? I don't know. I'm not aware of that, to be honest with you, especially in the beginning of the war. But like I said, the source is not the most considered the source. Yeah. In my opinion.

[A]

All right, there's. There's your. There's your answer. I, I would. I haven't heard of that either. I may have been a few places, saw a few things, but. But I didn't see that. Okay, what else?

[B]

We got on to the next one. So also from solely. He's got a few for us. All right, so Delta thought bad of them and didn't want them later. Rangers got good. True. Question mark. Brent said this is false.

[C]

I don't know. I would say, at least when I was there, we always provided what you guys asked for. You know what I mean? Like, at least the way I saw it, at least the line Ranger battalion guys did. I think that's why Ranger regiment has stayed so close with you guys throughout the years.

[A]

You can go all the way back to Operation Eagle Claw, right? We, We. We have Rangers with us. But I think. Let me, Let me expound on that a little bit. As if, like, the Rangers were bad and got good. Guess who else was bad at the beginning of the war?

[C]

All of us. All of us. All of us.

[A]

The amount of people that I've interviewed and the amount of. Here one, you know, Whiteside Soft from. From almost every background that were at the beginning of the war, basically all admitted how much they sucked and how much they weren't really ready for war, man. Who was it? Kind of think it was Alex West, Seal Team 6. I'm almost positive that's who it was. He gets into Afghanistan as a new guy and one of the first missions, not missions, but things he had to do was go drive around the airfield under nods because he had never done it before. No one had. It just wasn't something they did before.

[C]

Well, people don't realize night vision was. It wasn't a new thing for the gwat, but the way in which we used them was a new thing relatively for the gwat, to be honest with you. I mean, it happened in Blackhawk down, but like, before that really, the way that we used night vision was a new way that we used them in the GWAT for sure.

[A]

And. And that happened Right at the beginning of this explosion of technology. Really. And so the best we had at the time were. And we seven Series, you know, they went from Bravos to Charlie's to Deltas that, that I know of.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And those weren't good. So I'm sure there was an Alpha, but I wasn't, I wasn't there for it. And I can imagine how bad those were.

[C]

Remember the PVS4 on the saw that big?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, right. And it wasn't ready to be driven with, you know, to, to, to some degree, you know what I mean? Like it, it'd be, it'd be dangerous to do that. And it was dangerous. But, you know, we, they did D things. But yeah, it's. Luckily night vision, you know, was one of those things of technology that things got better. The 14s, it's crazy. I go train SWAT teams and some SWAT teams, like, wow, we only got PVS 14. So we don't really have night vision capability. Do you know how many people murdered people wearing PVS 14s?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like you. It is more than capable. Like, it's like they have this like Panos or nothing. Or, you know, pirate goggles or nothing. Like, seriously, I, I, when I first got my first set of 14s, when I first got my first deployment was still was seven Deltas. I didn't, I was on an ODA in 2004 and we didn't have 14s. I didn't get it to my next trip. I was so excited that I felt like our team had gone into the 21st century.

[C]

Yeah. Well, we started off like I started off in Ranger battalion with. We had PV, we had some PBS 14s, the single monoculars, when I first got there. But most dudes had the dual tube PBS 15s. Remember the old green ones? Yeah, they were heavy as heck though. But like, I wore. I rocked those things. The majority of the G Wat, right, this dual tube green PVS 15s. And then the 31s came out. Like, yeah, that's probably, I don't know, 2010 or maybe sooner than that. No, it's probably 2008. They came out and I was even resistant against them at first because I like them old 15s. But then I threw on a set of 31s. I'm like, oh my God, this is so much better. And I've rocked Panos before and I've jumped them on jumps. Me personally, I prefer dual tubes versus Panos, especially under canopy because there's just so broad trying to get them past your Risers turning your head.

[A]

You know, if I'm. If I'm gonna land and do something, and. And the. The jump is just the infill. If I'm gonna land and do something, I'll still wear Panos, but if it's just a jump, I'm gonna wear dual tubes for that same reason. As soon as you hit easy, it hits your risers. It's. It's kind of annoying.

[C]

It's just easier.

[A]

Yeah. All right, we got off on a tangent there.

[B]

All right, so on to the next one. And just wanted to say, Sully, thank you so much for your support. You got another one coming in. So it's quality difference between normal infantry and Rangers, question mark. Any infantry close to Ranger standards, question mark.

[A]

Now, this is a great question, and I. I want to want to preface it for this, because Rangers so often get, and rightfully so, you get compared to, like, what's the difference between Rangers and green bra? What's the mean Rangers and seals? Because they're. They're in the special operations world, but in the day, they're still an infantry unit, and no one really sizes them up against other infantry units and say, hey, what's the comparity in the infantry world? Because that they are a specialized light infantry. So I really like this question, and

[C]

we talked about this earlier, and it even. It even applies to when guys go to, like, Delta Force or like RC in places like that, they're competing against regular infantry for promotion. And so Rangers always just. It's like 100%, like 80 to 100% success rate because they're competing against those dudes. But they have all the schools, all the skills, all the extra funding and training. So it is different. And the reason that Rangers remain infantry and the Ranger regiment was good about that. You know, like SF changed its mosque to special Forces, right? And when they did that, they couldn't kick dudes out as easy. Ranger regiment maintained that 11 Bravo Mos, which SF used to have. And like, if you look at the Delta Force dudes, most of the dudes, the dudes that are rocking the tan brades, they're still 11 Bravos, right? So those dudes are still competing against Rangers and other infantrymen. So it's a way by retaining that 11 Bravo mos, that the Ranger regiment can kick you out like that, because if you mess up, they can kick you to anywhere else in the army that has an 11 Bravo. So it makes it easier for us to get rid of our turds.

[A]

Do you think the Ranger regiment lost its identity as an infantry unit. And if so, probably out of necessity during the gwat. And what I mean by that is, could. Could you still count. Count on them to go in the woods and patrol? Can you still count on them for raids and ambushes and 7, 8 infantry standards or. Or, or they. Or they lose that?

[C]

No, they're still totally capable. I mean, that's. It's pretty easy stuff. And in all of the stuff that they're doing is more of, like, an advanced layer to that anyway. So, yeah, they can still do that. They're probably not as good as they used to be at it, I'll admit that, because they've been more focused at the urban raid stuff, which is like, not the typical infantry. But, yeah, they're still capable.

[A]

And just make sure that the quality difference between normal infantry and Rangers. Any infantry close to. Is there any infantry close to Ranger standards?

[C]

None that I know of. I mean, unless there's some foreign units. I know the British have like. Like a support unit for their SAS that's supposed to be, like, Rangers, and I would assume they're infantry, and I would assume they're probably similar to Rangers, but I've never worked with them.

[A]

I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here, and I'll tell you why I think there's. They're not the Rangers, but possibly a close infantry unit is out of the. Out of the 101st Arakasans.

[C]

I've heard good things. Yeah.

[A]

And the reason is, is like, like, Rangers, they're very proud and they love their high standards, and they love to think they're better than people by showing them that our standards are better. Yeah. And we'll prove it. And with that culture, I think they're. They're better and been. No one's. No one's a Ranger.

[C]

And that's the thing. It's the culture. The culture is what, like, produces this result. Right. And then you got. Ranger regiment has a good culture, but then on top of that, it has immense funding as well. So I think that's the kind of piece. And a lot of people don't realize this, but I had an officer tell me, he said, do you know that one Ranger battalion, one Ranger battalion gets more funding for ammo than the entire United States Marine Corps? I don't know if that's true, but that's what some officer quoted to me. And I was like, wow. No, that's crazy.

[A]

That's true. Just. Just say it like it's truth. It probably is. They can't Google that now for something they can Google. Be careful. But no, you just send that one. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna go with that one.

[C]

It is true.

[A]

Right? What else we got here real quick?

[B]

I don't mean to Skip everyone, but Mr. Darren Behe. Oh, yeah, he, he put 300, then he said seer one and 50 for the fallen, 25th anniversary of 911 event. Let's make this event of biblical proportions. I just wanted to shout him out. That's massive.

[A]

For sure. Hey, you know that, that picture I showed you of the guy jumping the canine out of 10th? Oh, yeah, yeah, that's him.

[C]

Oh, that's that guy.

[A]

He's. He's part of that, that non profit. 50 for 50 for the fallen. So they do like 50 miles. They do a lot of things, but for the fallen, really. And they, they're going to New York City for this anniversary, 25th anniversary of 9 11. They're gonna hold a really big event and us as a tier one podcast and some of our Patreon members, we're gonna go down there and support that.

[C]

They do fitness events like long distance. Dude, link me up with these guys, man, because I like to do that kind of stuff if I can.

[A]

Yeah, sure. In fact, you'll have to. You'll have to wear our shirt. You'll be part of the tier one squad. We'll claim you.

[B]

All right, so getting back on track, another one from solely. So can RRC perform as well as Delta slash 6 and firefights? Question mark. Is Brent wrong to say Delta is the best Tier one unit?

[C]

Let me answer that one. We don't need anything from Brent on this one. So I personally, from a guy that's outside a third party, right. I will tell you Delta Force is the best, most hands down, the most professional, most capable Tier one unit. And, and I'll say that because RRC is very small, we have a capability set that is within some of their capability sets as well. And, and within that, like when it comes to tactical reconnaissance and infiltrating with military freefall into an, like an austere drop zone, I'd say RC is probably the best, hands down. But I'll say that like, Delta Force has a much robust, much more robust organization and they're capable of a lot more things than we're capable of.

[A]

I agree with that answer, by the way, but already text me, he's like, tell them we do Spartan races events and, and other things. Link us up. So I gotcha.

[B]

All right, so on to the next one, it's from Kaden Smith. Hg. It says, please make a video, I would assume of you doing a shoot house or drills, Please.

[C]

Who? Me?

[A]

Whether it's me or you, I think it's. I think it's going to take more than $2 for you to do a video. It'll get a super chat Red, but it won't get a video made.

[C]

Yeah, dude.

[A]

All right, thanks. Thanks, Kate. The production cost is. This is way too much. Yeah, thanks, K. I'm just. I'll just give you a hard time.

[B]

So, on to the next one. We got one from Ricky Schneider. It says, what's up with Mike Glover's Singleton CQB tactic from the video he did with DJ Shipley? What tier is that tactic? Lol.

[A]

I. I have seen. Someone sent me a video, I think in the patreon of him doing one man, like cqb. Like down. It's like down a hallway.

[C]

Weird.

[A]

And he's like, hey, you tuck it. And then you look left and you look right. I don't. So Singleton, I'm gonna get nerdy for a second and I'm splitting hairs here, but there's. There is no such thing as Singleton cqb. That would be like you saying, hey, I'm gonna go do some sut in the woods by myself.

[C]

Yeah,

[A]

well, it's. You can't. It's. It's a.

[C]

It's never planned for. Just like a worst case. Scen Singleton cq.

[A]

Right. So. So to do it, we have to call it some. We have to call it something else. Just. Just right off the bat, just again, to. Just to get really technical with it. But I didn't see exactly what video he put out. If it's with dj. I mean, I respect DJ and I've taught with him in the catwalk. And if DJ is putting it out, it's probably pretty legit. I think it was a joke. I need to look at it.

[C]

Did you watch?

[A]

You didn't watch it? No, but they had their rifles way

[C]

down here and then they go around and they bring them up. I think it was a joke, but

[A]

I think it's a little satire. All right, now. Well, good thing I didn't say too much.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. There's no telling. I will say DJ is a good teacher from the times that I've worked with him. Yeah, D.J. was solid, man. I wouldn't say that he would put out some bad stuff.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[B]

All right, on to the next one. We got one from Joe Williams. 7819, looking forward to the show. Here's 50 for my appreciation for you, for all you guys do. By the way, Drew, I'm completely hooked on the cigars now.

[A]

There you go. I'm telling you, we're bringing just good old fashioned. Good old fashioned. I don't know why I said it like that. From Tennessee. Some Nashville rubbed off on me. You know, we were talking about this earlier. Just. We're bringing back good old fashioned man stuff. Yeah. And, and again, like everything and in moderation. But guess what? Like, if you're not, drink a little bit, smoke a little bit, lift a little bit, eat some good foods a little bit, enjoy life a little bit. Like, you know, and if you're going to go heavy in one of those, go heavy on lifting. Go, go heavier. Go on, on eating good, you know, like go heavier on, on the good stuff. But when it comes time, go take, go take a vacation and, and enjoy that vacation. Yeah, I just, I think we've lost. I think we just lost sight of, of, of. Of manliness. I wish there was a better way to say that, bro.

[C]

Like, manliness has long. It's like a, it's an art that died hundreds of years ago. And like, we're just trying to revive it and we talked a little bit about that. I won't get into the, that piece of it, but yeah, it's, it's a lost art. And it, it, it revolves around standing up for what you believe in and, and you know, honestly putting your foot down at certain points for certain things that may not be, that may not be popular.

[A]

Here's an, here's an unpopular opinion. I'll say out loud things have gone awry in this country to some degree. But you know who's at fault for it? Men.

[C]

All of us. All of you guys too.

[A]

Men let it happen.

[C]

All of us. Our fault.

[A]

Yeah, but I guess that's the, the counter of it. If, if you can, if you can let it go. And I'm not talking about in some like, violent way, like, we're gonna take it back. We're gonna take it back by showing what, what real men look like, what real men act like they're capable of violence. Capable of it. Not, not just violent men. Yeah. They're capable of protecting. They're capable of being the most sincere, genuine, humble, nice people. And I think that's, that's what younger men will look at and they'll see the difference between the two. And godly men as well, by the way.

[C]

That's the key.

[A]

And they're going to look at those. Those two options that they have at life. And I'm gonna go, those. That's the camp I want to be in. Yeah, it'll be obvious.

[C]

They see guys like us who could kill, like you said, but yet walk around, refrained and treat other people with respect. Right. And that's the way it's supposed to

[A]

be is where it's supposed to be. Which reminds me, I'm going. Speaking of. We've let this. We've let this go too long, too far. I have this. I have this crazy news story I'm just gonna read. I don't want to make Cam's job any more difficult than it had to be. So I was like, you don't have to bring up videos or anything. Just. Just make it go. University of Wisconsin graduate student apologizes for false claims of being by bipoc or bipoc, which is black indigenous person of color. So they said they were black indigenous person of color, and they weren't. So just read the story for a little bit. I'm going to bring this around, let you know what this. What this pertains to this conversation, but just want to show you how crazy we've gotten. UW graduate student CV Vitalo Haddad apologized and resigned from their teaching assistant position after allegations of falsely claiming to be a person of color. The move comes after UW alumnus Jessica Krug, now a former associate professor of George Washington University, revealed in a post on Medium she had been lying about being black throughout her professional life. And it just goes on and on and on. She outright refused to explicitly state her racial identity, which made people start to question about it. She came out and apologized and said, you know, she. Her apologize is just. I'm trying to make sense of my experience with race. I gross. I grossly misstepped. I went along with however people saw me. I over identified with unreliable and unproven family history and latched on to anything I remembered growing up. So she pretended to be black, got called out and said, you're not black and you're pretending to be black, and you have to stop that. I agree with that. Does anyone else not see the irony in what's going on here? If you're a man and you pretend to be a woman, we have to accept that. But if you pretend to be another race, we hate you. And that is you're not living in reality, and you need to wake up and you need to come to grips with reality. Reality. And we'll call you out and you'll have to step down and you'll be shamed publicly. But you can.

[C]

Even though that's harder to prove. Even though it's much harder to prove. Do you actually have that race? Like, you have even the slightest infantile of a blood drop of that race?

[A]

I bet if you did a 23 in me, I bet you're 2% African.

[C]

Yeah, probably. We all have a little bit of black in us.

[A]

Right? But. But you're a hundred percent man or you're 100 female. Yeah, like, we've just. We've lost it. But again, if. When it comes to the left, I've said this before, if. If it wasn't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So it makes no sense that. That they double down on this reality and they're like, no, that's not reality. We're going to stick it to you. But if you pretend to be a different gender or a furry or whatever else that. That they'll pretend to be, we all got to play along with your silly games. Yeah, we've lost it. And again, at the end of the day, we let it happen. Yeah.

[C]

Us men. Responsibility. And here's the thing, people watching this podcast, you're watching it because you're looking at military guys typically. Well, we're supposed to be leaders, right? The men are supposed to be leaders. That's the way God put it. And when we're not leading, things happen. Folly happens.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

It's just like the military.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

I mean, we're responsible for everything that happens or fails to happen within our team.

[A]

Team, yeah. All right, so the next super chat.

[B]

All right, another one from solely here. It says, do most rangers slash other soldiers quit on RRC selection? Question mark. What are main reasons for failure? Question mark.

[A]

Good question.

[C]

Well, for that, we have. We have guys from outside of the Ranger regiment that trout for selection. It's similar to, like, you guys up at the unit. Yeah, it's been open for a while now, but it's mostly dudes from the regiment that come. But there's a lot of. There are some regular army dudes that put in packets. And honestly, when I was in that unit, I'd say probably 25 of the unit were dudes who'd never been in the regiment before who came from selection. From the outside.

[A]

I assume they have to have a ranger tab.

[C]

Yeah, they do.

[A]

That's the prerequisite.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Ranger tab. E4 or E5.

[C]

Is there a they got to be Like, I think the requirements are similar to yalls. It's like E4, but, like, nobody makes that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, nobody. It's typically E6s or above that make it with a tab. And then they have to be a Ranger too, first. So even if they're not out, like, even if it's a Green Beret, they have to go through rasp and pass that first and then go to selection.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right.

[C]

You got to be a Ranger first. So technically everybody comes from the Ranger regiment, so even outside dudes have to select to be a Ranger. And if they make that, then they can go to rrc select selection.

[A]

All right, and of course, we'll talk about it more in this podcast, but we. We go into depth on this on. On the recording, which is really cool because you're the. The first Ranger and first Roc guy that we've had. So we got to ask a lot of questions about that and go into a little bit more detail and heck, I learned something.

[B]

Okay, so on to the next one. Another one from solely which enemy is hardest to fight, question mark. And then do you respect them? Question mark.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I never got to mess with the. The Syrians like Brent did, but he said those guys were brutal compared to the Afghans. But I knew there were some Chechnyan fighters and some of these foreign fighters that would come in through the east in Afghanistan, and those dudes would be legit. And we could tell the difference between them. They were actually legitimately trained. They were hardened dudes. They had battle fighting experience in other conflicts, so they were more hard to deal. Deal with. And if you don't respect your enemy, you're. You're ignorant. Right? Because they can kill you just as easily as you can kill them. And we had better technology, we had better tactics and stuff like that, but we must respect our enemy because they can still kill you.

[A]

Yeah, I've always said if you're close enough to take their life, then by default they're close enough to take yours.

[C]

For sure.

[A]

I mean, it's. It's just. It's dangerous. It's dangerous. Yeah, we talked. We talked about that before, and we come out on top because of technology and training and because we're Americans and they're not. But. Yep, you roll the dice enough and you will roll snake eyes. They will get lucky eventually.

[C]

You said that perfectly. You roll the dice enough, you will roll snake eyes eventually.

[A]

Just a matter of time.

[C]

You're gonna die eventually.

[B]

All right, so on to the next one from. Just another one. 1B. It just says no reason, no comment. Just because.

[C]

Thanks a lot, brother. We appreciate it.

[A]

Just another 11B. Stick around. I got something for you later.

[B]

Okay, so the next one after that is from Zulu Whiskey. It says, what's up, boys? What are the similarities and differences between RRD ST6 Black Squadron and Delta's Gray Squadron?

[C]

I would say from what I know they're there. There are a lot of similar capabilities, a lot of overlap there, but typically. And I'd say a lot of similarities because RRD or RRC is doing that job for the Ranger regiment, whereas, like, SEAL Team 6, Black Squadron and Gray Squadron doing that for their parent units, whereas, like, we also do that in support of jsoc, but those guys do as well. So I. I think it's a lot of overlap and very. A lot of similarities. And I worked with a lot of those guys back in the day.

[A]

Yeah, there. There is a lot of overlap on. On that and the overlap on. It's weird because it's just like assaulters. There are. There are times in the military we're like, you know, we have too many. We don't need this. But there's other times. Like, no one expected us to be, you know, at war with two different countries at the same time and essentially surging both. Both countries. I mean, there is a time that you guys, as. As a line unit, you know, were acting like a tier one assault company and just going after targets because we. We couldn't get enough door kickers and intel's the same way. There's. There's ups and downs. There's times where it feels like that's just overlap. We got a lot of them. And there's other times where just everybody's busy. Yeah, but you can't create the need once you need it.

[C]

Yeah, it has to be recreated. Yeah, and that's the thing. And. And we did kind of create it behind the power curve like we talked about. They did away with desert phase of Ranger school right before the desert war and never brought it back. Yeah, the same thing with all the units like Delta Force, Ranger regimen. Everybody increased their numbers during the G. W.A.T. mid stroke. They should have probably done it beforehand, but they didn't.

[A]

Well, absolutely.

[B]

All right, so on to the next one. Another one from Mr. Solely. It says, ever have fun in war? Question mark. Is sense of humor. Important question mark.

[A]

Some of the funnest and funniest times I've ever had is. Is in war. Yeah, it's. It's such A, we just talk about how you got to respect your enemies. And we did. But as soon as, like, sector was secure, you know, the boys are just going to be boys.

[C]

And here's the thing, and I know this is sad to say, but we were trained to be killing machines. And like, if you didn't enjoy killing those people, then you probably weren't in the right job. You know what I mean? Like, and I don't look at it that way necessarily anymore, but at the time when I was there, dude, I enjoyed killing those people. It was fun for me. Like, like, we talked about who wants to be hearing gunshots. We're like, we hear the snap, snap, snap of the crack and we're like, hey, where's that coming from? Let's go get in it. You know, and that's just the way it was. So it was fun, but there was fun and warm. We talked a little bit about that today where I got wrapped up and hog tied by a cow who ran circles around me and ended up girth hitching its, like, tether around my legs and took me down. And I've seen that happen multiple times. So there are fun things that happen too. And. And that's like, I think the best one I can think off the cuff.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Just funny. It's. It's the most serious of times. It's. It's the funniest of times. Those. Those type of people that will do that job are extreme in everything.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And including being funny. You know, I'm not, I'm not saying everyone's a comedian, but. But the same. There's a lot. There's a higher concentration of funny guys. And, and the real funny ones are

[C]

really fun, and it's extreme. For example, we did a surveillance trip one time, and one of my guys took somebody's fish. Fish tacos. Now, stuck the to go box in the glove box and shut it and left the car for like a couple days. And old boy went back to go get his car from surveillance. Oh, my God, that thing stunk. That's good.

[A]

Shenanigans.

[C]

That's not nice. Yeah, but that's funny.

[A]

That's funny. That's funny, but it's not nice. How long did it take him to find it? Because at some point, like, why does it smell like.

[C]

God, this car smells like rotten fish.

[A]

Oh, man. What else we got?

[B]

All right, so we have one from. Oh, collision. Wait. All right, I'm gonna butcher this. Name Colitation. Ass Hat Coalition Coalition Asset.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

All right. Brent.

[A]

No, Drew would be Proud of you mispronouncing that you're. You're doing good.

[B]

Fair. So, Brent, have you talked about Spear Operations Group, question mark? What do you think? Question mark. Also just got the sweet tip cigars. Awesome.

[A]

Speaking of. Drew would be happy. Drew be happy with that. He really pioneered those sweet tip cigars. He's. He's working on that for months. I don't know much about Spear Operations Group. Have you heard of them?

[C]

No, I never heard of them. Is that, is that, is that Obsidian Group, though? Like, they have the spirit thing, right?

[A]

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[B]

Okay. All right, so on to the next one. Another one from solely. It says, thoughts on Pat Tillman cover up, question mark.

[C]

Yeah, that was a legit cover up there. Even within the Ranger Regiment, people. I wasn't involved, so I can't say I wasn't intimately involved with that. I wasn't there when that happened. I was in 3rd Ranger Battalion. That was 275 was over there. But from what I heard that, yeah, it was. I don't know why they covered it up. I don't know the reason for it, but there was definitely some covering that happened with that. And to be honest, I can't speak intelligently on it.

[A]

And that's fine. We've. We'd. We'll probably have Pete Blaber come. Pete Blabber did a whole book on, On.

[C]

Oh, did he?

[A]

On that cover up, if you will. And so we did. Upon my last podcast, we did it. Or he came on and explained on it. It was, it was fascinating because Pete's such a professional.

[C]

Like, he dug and Was he an officer and then went to Yalls unit, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pete's great. This is kind of what I want to say about that. It's going to sound weird, but I'm going to spin it as a positive. And I know that's how you spin this as a positive. It really is this after 20 years of war and a lot of opportunity, a lot of money that's been passed around in war, a lot of opportunities to take a large amount of questionable shots and, and not there's, there's just. There's a lot of opportunity to embarrass your country and to embarrass your unit. How, how many things can you name at least publicly? Because some things should be kept, you know, in house if it's not big. You know what I mean? Like, I don't. I'm not mad about that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The Pat Tillman thing should have been. It should have been publicly and it got called out. How many, how many black eyes do the rangers have after 20 years of war?

[C]

Not a whole lot to be. I mean, not a whole. Not a whole lot.

[A]

I mean the only thing that comes to mind is. Is that one. Yeah.

[C]

Is that one?

[A]

And if. And if that's.

[C]

And that's the only one.

[A]

And that's. And I hate to say it is a bad thing to say it is a bad thing. And that was a cover up from headquarters on up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That wasn't the boys on the ground. That was. That was some CYA and some careerism going on. And so again that's. I'm not trying to. But. But we'll just say there are other units with a list of things. Yeah. And I am really.

[C]

Units.

[A]

Leave it at that. Let's leave it at that. But, but I'm proud of where we came from.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That, that the amount of, you know, embarrassing things that, that we did. Because we do. We represent what's best of this country. Yeah. And there's such a small amount of things because we're, we are human, run by humans that, that are fallible.

[C]

And not only that.

[A]

Really proud of that track record.

[C]

And it's war, bro. Like nothing happens perfectly in war. We plan missions and they almost never go exactly as planned. But the plan is the script and we try to stick to as much as we can. But that's the thing. Some sometimes friendlies get killed in war. I mean there's other instances of that happening and it legitimately happens. For real.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But there's no need to cover it up. We just need to be honest about it.

[A]

When you hear the real story, you know, the like the how it happened, when I was. When Pete Blabber was done laying it out, it was a perfect storm. Like, it. When I was done with that, with him explaining it, I thought two things. One, how could this happen? This should never happen. Because at the end of the day, like, it should never happen. And at the same time, I'm like, I understand how this happened.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Complete chaos. Two elements got separated. They got into an ambush on a.

[C]

On a pin around a cliff.

[A]

Yeah. On a. What they call it, a point, a pin turn. It was like a hairpin on a hairpin turn. And in that hairpin turn was. Was elevated. It was just complete chaos. Worst case, I was like, man, I, I, I don't think it should have happened, but I get it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I've been in that situation before, like, when I was working with the Omega programs and for the people out there, like, I've wondered how people could shoot somebody under night vision. You know, when you know that you're your friendlies. But I came around the corner. I'll just tell you guys. And I. And I looked at one of the ground branch guys, one of the agency guys, and what he was dressed in. For some reason, it looked like he had a turban on. Yeah, like a haji turban on. Standing there. And I'm looking at this dude. I'm getting ready to smoke this. My rifle's on him, my laser's on him, and the safety is off. Getting ready to send the trigger. And I'm like, something gave me. Just double check that. And I flipped back to safe, went back around the corner, and I said, let me come back and check that guy again. I popped back up, hit him with my laser, and I saw laser glint off of his night vision. And I was like, holy crap. Almost smoked that dude. But he looked. He looked like an Afghan. He was dressed like an Afghan, had a turban. Like, he didn't even have a turban on. He had a helmet on. And he was wearing regular. He was wearing civilian clothes, but he had a helmet on. But it looked like a turban under night vision for some reason. But when he turned back around, I saw the light or the glenn off the lenses, and I didn't shoot him

[A]

because the mind's a weird thing, and the mind will in a weird way. Here's a great example of that, because I misspell things all the time, and I proofread it, and, and in my mind, when I read it, my mind corrects it, and. And it happens. All the time. If you read something real quick and your mind will show you a correctly spelled thing like the mind will. Will kind of show you what you want to see to some degree. Here's another good example that I've talked about this before. I Since you turn the corner and same thing I went lasers on, safety off. I'm pulling the slack out of my trigger and. But something doesn't look right and it's just like three in the morning. We just got into a nasty firefight and it looks like this person is. I can make it up 100ft away because of of its size but something is telling me this as I'm like right on the. Who knows.

[C]

I know what you mean.

[A]

Little it would have taken to go off.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm trying to figure out. I am, I'm looking, I'm looking I'm trying to figure out. It wasn't a regular sized person far away. It was appeared to be like a four or five year old child closer to me.

[C]

Dang dude.

[A]

But my mind was never prepared on a low loom night with night vision on to see. To turn the corner and see a four or five year old kid. It was. It was only ready to see a full grown man and but again something was odd. I was. That was early in my career. I almost smoked a kid that was just out walking around. Almost smoked brown branch guy of of the night. That would have ruined my whole career. Yeah. I probably would have got kicked out of SF possibly. It would, it would. I do I believe that would have changed the trajectory of my whole career. Yeah.

[C]

I almost smoked a ground branch. I mean I was already in working with JSOC at the time but like like you like. And for the people out there these decisions happen in a fraction of one second. Right. Like you ID the target. You're flipping like while you're IDing you're already flipping it from safe to semi and e easing up in that slack on the trigger like Brent was talking about. So there's not a whole lot of time to make these decisions. But something was not right to me and I backed off the trigger pulled back to my cover and I said let me check that guy again. I popped back around the COVID pop back up on him. I was like man, that's a friendly and I didn't shoot him.

[A]

And in both our instances if it would have happened we would have never forgiven ourselves. Yeah. And we'd have dealt with. We'd have dealt with that the rest of our lives for sure.

[C]

Dude.

[A]

Oh Man, I still. I still get a little bit odd feeling just talking about how close I was to. To killing.

[C]

Oh, I know. This dude was, like, my age. He was like my age. Now. He was a groundbreak dude. He was, like 50 years old, like, close to my age. And dude was, like, already retired from the Ranger Regiment. Was a former Ranger, too, working for ground branch over there, and almost smoked this dude, a legend in the Ranger regiment, working for the agency, and almost killed that dude.

[A]

Ma'. Am. What else we got?

[B]

All right. Another one from solely. It says, is it wrong for Tier one to go public with stories, question mark.

[A]

That is the question. That is the question. I think Tier one people should. Should be public, and I think there's certain things that they should talk about also. Right, right. And, yeah, what's. What's your purpose? Why you doing it? Yeah, but there's. Unlike Whiteside, and this is how I feel. I think Whiteside guys should tell whatever stories they want to Whiteside. Like, they're. They're not secret organizations, and we need young men to join those, to hear these stories and have a reason to join. But I. I kind of draw the line at war stories themselves with. With Tier 1 units to a degree. I don't know. How do you feel about it?

[C]

I agree with you. And the stories need to be told. They're just told on a different platform these days. Back in the day, I mean, look at, like, what made me want to join the military. Reading books about Rangers and Delta Force dudes or, like, Rangers and seals in Vietnam and SF dudes in Vietnam and then Delta Force and stuff after that. So we've all read the stories and. And now we're just putting it on tv so you watch it in a telegraphed way versus then the written way. But we do need to do it with. With Kuth, you know, I mean, we need to make sure that we keep it professional and don't reveal things that. That are going to hurt our boys in the future. And none of the stuff we're speaking about. And here's the thing. Like, people are going to say half the stuff that we say is classified, but there's a lot of stuff I could talk about that Brent and I would consider classified. That's still technically not classified.

[A]

Yeah, it's really weird. I've. We'll just say I've edited out things on. On this podcast for the Tier one guys that have said classified things, and it just kind of spilled out. And I told him later, like, hey, you said that I'm Gonna edit that out. The classified stuff actually isn't, isn't, not all of it. Is that cool. Yeah, some of it's like really gay. Right. But it is, it is linked to capabilities. It is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And, and you can't reveal any, you know, capabilities because. And especially. And, and this was the unit's point. Is the unit's point right now, which is if this guy's walking the line and he's giving a little bit of information and then this guy is. And then this guy is. And then this guy is, the enemy is going to look at that and holistically be able to put the pieces of, of that together. So let's not talk about operations.

[C]

Well, yeah, and that's the thing. And that's how we gather intel. We get a little bit here, we get a little bit there, and we put it all together and make one big picture. So that's true. But we can keep it in like with the war stories as long as we're not talking tactics, techniques and procedures like how we set this up and then how we staged that. We're good. We killed bad guys. Yeah. That happens in every war.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But we. How we. Yeah, we killed him. How we killed him is our secret.

[A]

That's right. Yeah, that's, that's, that's a good way to put it. Yeah. How we did it, that stays with us.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, we got another one from coalition ass hat. Do you guys think with technology and robots and drones that in the near future the idea of a guy in camo physically going through a door in combat just becomes a thing of the past?

[A]

That's a good question, because I, I want to argue against it.

[C]

It'll never happen. I'll say this will never happen. Like you're not going to have a robot in our lifetime that can think the way that we can on the fly with compassion, with human relations. You know what I mean? Think about that. I know it's a deity, like a human being, like, you know, you and I believe differently. We believe that we're beings created by God, a creator. So we have a different ability to reason than a machine.

[A]

I think large scale wars will be fought by machines. But the idea that we're done with humans going through the door, There you go. I think, I think hostage rescue at the end of the day has to be put in the hands of humans. You know, certain high value targets were problem solving and not just AI analytical problem solving, but true problem solving that only humans can do will have to be done with humans. But I think, I think it'll not think. I'm not saying it'll be a thing of the past, but I think it will have a smaller, you know, a smaller footprint in war.

[C]

Yeah, I think so too. But I'm telling you, like the stuff like you're saying, like hostage rescue or even reconnaissance, man, you're not going to do that with a robot. Like, you can do certain aerial things with a robot, but to get the actual details, details you need close up. I don't know that you can always do that with a robot. And you're right. The hostage rescue, you're definitely not going to be able to do that with a robot.

[A]

And I can see maybe some, some hybrid stuff where, you know, there's still like maybe a robot that, that lead, that leads it in not, not in a lethal way, but almost as a, as a shield.

[C]

Sacrificial lamb.

[A]

As a sacrificial lamb, yeah. Pretty sure we'll be able to figure out how to incorporate them, but it's still not going to completely remove the human element. But here's the other thing. Even if we go to robots, humans will always be the backup. I mean, what happens if you hit them with a, with an emp?

[C]

Yeah, it's all dead.

[A]

And they all, and they all fall. You don't have a human army to be like, oh, it's, it's our turn, we're back up.

[C]

Well, let's reconsider this. We ain't got nobody no more.

[A]

Right.

[C]

We had robots.

[A]

And what I just say about, you know, intel units and those door kicking units, like, you can't, once you need them, you can't stand, you can't, you can't make them. Like, they have to be a ready force.

[C]

Correct.

[A]

Ready to go. By the time you get into creating them when you need them, it's too late. Yeah. So in a weird way, I think we will always have a human army, even when we have a robot army. Or we better. Yeah.

[C]

There's going to be at least humans controlling the robots.

[A]

Right.

[C]

At least initially.

[A]

You know, I've, I've said this before because it's just a cool saying. It said, I don't know of what weapons World War 3 will be fought with, but I know that World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones. And I think, I don't think we'll get to a four.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think, but the, the, the thought behind that, that saying I think is, is really interesting that that's for sure.

[C]

It has more value than Most people recognize, to be honest.

[A]

Yeah. All right, what else we got?

[B]

All right, we got one from TBD Sear. It says, man, I'm so glad this is finally happening. Welcome, Mike. I've asked this before, but I need Mike's opinion. Who win. Who wins in a fight to the death? Siberian tiger or Kodiak brown bear?

[A]

These are the questions that Mike's here for.

[C]

This is, this is what the world wants question, man.

[A]

Oh, we.

[C]

I am a cat guy, so I'm gonna say the Siberian tiger because it's amazing the power that cats have. You know what I mean? That's just what I'm gonna stick with.

[A]

All right. We used to get really weird questions. I'm screwed up off the top of my head, Steve. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, right. Like would you rather fight one goliath sized duck or. Or 100 penguins, mice sized ducks, you know, like just things like that. Sometimes you're just funny. But some of them are like, I gotta think about this. I wanna, I wanna give this guy a good answer because that's, that's a good question. Yeah, we should get really funny.

[C]

You have to dig deep on these.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

All right, on to the next1. Aaron Ferales, 3042. It says, FRCC Coffee is thoroughly enjoyed by my crew. God bless you guys for the work you do, man.

[A]

Thank you, Aaron. I really, really appreciate that.

[C]

God bless you too.

[A]

It's. It is 8:50. Just gonna let you guys know. I haven't forgot about this. I. I know there are some people watching that may think you were supposed to give away those nods last week. Are you ever going to give them away? When we get back from the break, I will, I will give away this, this whole setup as.

[C]

As promised so that Mike can take him home with him and shoot at his range.

[A]

Hurry up and join Patre that.

[B]

All right. On to the next one from Sam Quartillo. 3000, 321. It says, Brent, thank you for taking the time to chat with me in Nashville. Thank you for the picture. It was truly humbling to meet you. Thank you for your service.

[A]

Yeah, that was awesome. Oh, cool. Sam, good, good, good to see you here in the chats. It was good to see you in Nashville as. As well.

[B]

All right, another one from Mr. Solely. It says how much firefight experience is needed for a soldier to become good on average in war.

[A]

Dude, good question. I'll let you take a swing at that first.

[C]

That is a good question. But here's the thing. A soldier's trained before war, so he should be trained prior to that firefight. But you never know how that soldier is going to react until that firefight. And the experiences vary but, and sometimes a soldier can react to that firefight in a negative way but still recover from it. But you know, sometimes they can. Most of the times they're going to recover from it in a positive way and continue to progress on if that makes sense. But ultimately you're trained before the war, but you never know how they're going to react until the experience.

[A]

I'm going to do my best to verbalize this answer. So. And I'll start it off with this. It's almost like leadership in this aspect. People ask me all the time like, you know, can leadership be born or can you train a leader? And I actually, I believe this to be the answer. You're a born leader, but I don't really mean it in that aspect. By the time you're an adult and it's time for you to have the ability to be a leader. It's, it's your childhood, it's everything that formed you early on that allowed you to be a leader. And you can take someone who's a two has been, but we'll, we'll give that term a born leader and we could make him a better leader with, with tools, training and training. But you can't make a bad leader good no matter what seminar he went to.

[C]

I agree with you.

[A]

And that's kind of how I view fight guys, warriors in a firefight. They have this innate sense about them that somehow through their childhood as a young man, they were formed to be here in this moment and we can add on things to make them a better warrior.

[C]

Yeah, but I agree with you.

[A]

They're that guy. They've always been that guy.

[C]

But if, but if you, somebody honed it and they focused it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it could be just the military. Right. Or just the Ranger regiment or whatever it is exactly focused on that. And you, you take a natural born leader and create him into what he thrives at. Right, but you're Right, but you can take a dude who's not a leader.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And put him into that same thing that's calling him to be a leader. And he could be a mediocre leader, but he's not going to be great.

[A]

That's right. But if you're not that guy, you can go all the way through Delta Force training. And if you're not that guy when, when things hit the fan, you won't be that guy then.

[C]

Yeah. And that's when it matters.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Good question.

[B]

All right, on to the next one Is from just another one. 1B, it says. Got the first Lion Arms CAG15 in the shop today. Very cool. Serial number.

[A]

Magnet. Do you know what serial number that is?

[C]

One. Nice.

[A]

Is it, is it CAG 00 Daddy.

[C]

Daddy 001.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

For CAG Daddy.

[A]

That's what everybody calls Brent. It's. I, I dislike the name CAG Daddy. It just doesn't, it doesn't.

[C]

I know what you mean.

[A]

Sit right with me. It's. There's worse names than that. Don't, don't, don't get me wrong.

[C]

He made a really cool video about it too.

[A]

It's, it's a humbling to some sort nickname. I took it. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

All right, on to the next one from Kane. Korsov. It says.

[A]

Okay, Corsov, good to see you back in the chats.

[B]

Brother says with the rapid development of cheap drone warfare and what we're seeing in Ukraine, do you think the infantry man or ODA will become obsolete? If so, would that be a good thing, a bad thing, or a disappointing thing?

[A]

So kind of a similar question we, we just touched on, but we'll hit it up with the end of that question. Would that be a good thing? A bad thing?

[C]

It would be a bad thing because that means we're, you know, where we know that the Bible leads us to eventually. So we don't want men to be obsolete. But yeah, I think, I don't think men will ever be obsolete just like we talked about because there's just certain things that you can't do. And yet with this drone technology and the surveillance from above, there's also technology coming in to block the surveillance from above as well. There's thermal cover that dudes can do in recce that you can put over. It's just like a little sheet of like cellophane, but it literally blocks your entire thermal signature. So there's ways around it.

[A]

Excuse me, one, one thing. It's, it's a limit for now. And again, technology has been just so crazy, you know, over this, this, this time frame that even though it's a limitation now, I don't know if it'll continue to be a limitation. But at the end of the day, what humans have over, over robots is essentially a, a much easier energy resupply source. And what I mean by that is that we don't really have. It's, it's one of the reasons we're having A hard time with electric cars or. And our all alternative fuel like aerialisms, vehicles, you know, like, if you will, the Jetsons. Because batteries only go for so long, you have to recharge them for even longer. You have to have some way to recharge them. And even though it may not be ideal, at the end of the day, you can send humans as. As you very well know, into the woods with little. Little to nothing. And they'll go for days and days and days, if not weeks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So I really think at the end of the day, there's. There's a. Energy itself is. Is a limitation until. Until they fix that, humans won't be obsolete.

[C]

Bro, I have never looked at it that way, but dude, that nailed it. You nailed it. That's a good way to look at it. I never thought of it that way.

[A]

Well, thank you. I. Every now and again I say something smart. But don't worry, I mean it makes a ton. Give me about 10 minutes and I will overshadow that with something completely stupid.

[C]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

Or forget a simple word and be like, can the same guy not remember that word? But. But put that together. Yep, that's me.

[B]

All right, on to the next one. It's from Brenda's Taint. Nice name. It says, hey, Brent, were you in country when the Battle of Whenat went down? Also, would the outcome be different if an ODA were present when it kicked off?

[A]

So the Battle of what not? Man, great question. I know the Battle of what not as well as I do, and I wish I could remember more details about it because I had to write a paper in SLC about the Battle of One Not. And it was just everything about it was bad. They picked a bad place. They picked the low ground that there was. There was dead space where the enemy could maneuver. The enemy eventually figured it out, waylaid them, and they. They didn't over. They essentially overran them, but they. They didn't really over them, but they took casualties. Yeah, I don't remember if I was. I don't think I was in country in the time. I feel like I would have remembered that.

[C]

I don't think I was either.

[A]

Do I think it'd been. Been different if an oda. Here's where I'm going to say yes at the end of the day and. But it's a little bit of a different answer. Those boys did. Did react and they tried to give him hell. But the problem was they limited. They were limited right from where they were at. They were limited and they did the best with the worst terrain possible. Right. I mean an ODA would not have picked that. And if an ODA was given that and this kind of just goes to the difference a little bit between special operations and, and, and regular and conventional. I don't remember or know if conventional pushed back and said hey, we gotta move, we have to move, we have to go to higher ground. Like we're not going to stay here. I do believe it would have been indifferent because even if an ODA started there because of some of a place someone else picked up, they would have said no, we're not going to stay here, we're going to go to higher ground, we're going to go to a defensible position. And so that's the only reason why I, I think it'd be different. But it, but ANODA has, has the, the left to right limitations and the resources do that to do that. So it's a little unfair to say that. So don't want to think that I was, that was an anti conventional force thing.

[C]

It's, that's the reason those dudes are commanded to be there and they probably had no say in the matter, to be honest with you.

[A]

Yeah man, great question about the battle of one knot.

[B]

All right, so we're making it back to Mr. Darren B.

[A]

All right, covered that.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Old Bocephus from the, from the good state of Texas. That's gonna piss him right off.

[B]

And then the one after that is going to be from Human Performance crt It says how's it going fellas?

[A]

So that is Phil from Human Performance trt and we talking to, talking to Mike about that. You might have another affiliate joining the HPTRT train.

[C]

I'm down.

[A]

So look, I just made it official.

[C]

All right.

[B]

After that we got Jano Sun 11:28 says I watch your live stream of Andy on or Rob on Andy's pod. I challenge you on Rob being a good storyteller because my IQ isn't lower than an M4. Also, when are you going to get a Walla Wender on?

[A]

Oh talk. Bringing up Keith, I believe is who is who you're referring to. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll see about that. That is funny. He is a good storyteller. But you're right, if your IQ isn't lower than M4 bag, it probably isn't going to get past you. I, I appreciate that. Hey, it is 9 o'. Clock. We're gonna stay on schedule if you're going to be Upset at us for. For kicking off right at 8. Don't be upset at us if. If. If we're out of here at. At 10. That's what's called. Keep it a schedule. We'll see if we can't keep it. It's 902. It is time for a break. Cam, can you take us to break?

[B]

Yes, sir. Here we go.

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[B]

Yes sir. Yes it was. We are back.

[A]

We are back. I don't know if you guys saw, but I put out a 30 day challenge with hp-trt.com one of the companies that I'm a partner with with Phil and laying out the testosterone peptides creatine from from Tasty Gains I'm doing for 30 days straight. I'm just gonna get after it and and see the results. So stick along, stick around and follow us along with that. And I think after 30 days then we'll just turn on the 60 day challenge and the 90 day challenge. And that's. And that's. And that. And that's how you get back to it. Yeah. We joke around a little bit about it. Like, I did that because you need accountability. What's more accountable than putting a video out and telling everyone, hey, I'm gonna get in shape in 30 days.

[C]

Yeah, bro. You gave the world accountability, right?

[A]

Yeah. Let me tell you, I spent what came. Were we in Nashville for five days. Six days.

[B]

Six days.

[A]

Didn't miss a workout. Nothing. Nothing will make sure that you still go to the gym, even in Nashville, after making a video and putting it out there before everyone and saying, hey, I'm gonna get in better shape in 30 days. You got it. Because that's almost a week. That'd be almost a quarter of, you know, of the challenge. Yeah. Yeah. And so that was. That was good. Let's talk about these real quick digital panos that only I'm dumb enough to pay four grand for, do a video on, and then just give them away to our Patreon. Dumb for me. Good for you. And we're going to continue giving away things on the Patreon. I don't want to spoil you guys and think it's going to be this every month. Can't afford to do that. But I can do it once. And we got other things. We got Brotherhood blades making us a custom hatchet with. With my uniform being the. The handle on it. We have a cool Glock getting custom done as a tier one gun that we're gonna give away as well. How's. How's that looking magnet going?

[C]

Good. I gave the.

[A]

I sent off last week. The Do Good. The Do Good fund.

[C]

Yes, sir. I sent that off.

[A]

Okay. Oh, yeah, the. The. That guy. I know, I know. Which one are you talking about? To. To the wounded veteran who just wanted to go shooting with his buddies, and so we just sent him a free gun. Like, hey, nice. Go shooting with your buddies. That's what he's. What he wanted. Guess what? You.

[C]

Where's he at? Where does he live at?

[A]

Do you remember where the. Colorado. Okay, nice. So the winner of the nods. It's the whole setup. It's. It's the earpieces. It's. It's the helmet. It's the nods even, because I had to buy them because you're gonna need them. The digital panos actually work pretty well. They don't do. Where they really falter is lighting conditions.

[C]

If transitions.

[A]

If the light condition gets Too low, they'll white out like they need light.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Unlike the analog ones, of course, they work better with ambient light. But even when ambient light gets really low, you can still do work in them. I mean, they're not as clear. We can do work this one. It doesn't take a whole lot of. Of darkness to overwhelm it. That's okay. Just bring in the light. So just bring in IR light and, and wake them right back up. And so I had to bring in a. An IR floodlight. And the only other thing they do is because of the refresh rate on them, if you. If you turn really quick, it blurs out.

[C]

Blurs a little bit.

[A]

But it's not that big. It's not that big of a deal.

[C]

Even notice it probably.

[A]

Right. I had. I mean, is the Delta Force taking these things on target?

[C]

No.

[A]

No. Are. Are they good enough to go in the woods and. And shoot at something furry and have a, you know, have a really good time? Heck yeah, they are. Heck yeah, they are. So I had to. I had to get off my, my, I had to get off my, my soapbox a little bit and be like, hey, what are they? Like, are they good enough?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And for four grand, like, you can't beat that. Come on.

[C]

Four grand?

[A]

Yeah. So remember when I told just another 11 bravo to stick around? I got something to tell you. That's because you have won a set of pandas. That's awesome. Yeah.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

There you go. That's awesome. That's who won them. Justin, are you. Are you still in the super chats or. Forget the super chats. Are you still in the chats? Let us know. I hope so. Otherwise you'll find out eventually that. That you won those bad boys. Oh, Jonathan, I know you're on Patreon. Obviously you have to be on Patreon to win them. Send me a. An address and where to ship them out to and. And they are yours, buddy.

[C]

Wow, What a nice prize.

[A]

Yeah, that was. That was cool to do. That was. That was really cool to do.

[B]

Oh, he's still in here. He just. He just said wtf?

[C]

Nice.

[A]

There he is. He's in there. And he. And he got him. I love it. And he's a super active guy and Patreon. So it was really cool that it was a name that, that I recognized. It's. So this is how we do it. I just. I just. I just get a random number

[B]

generator.

[A]

Generator. Yep. I'll put all our Patreons in an Excel spreadsheet. They'll have a number random number generator. Hit it. That's. And that's. That's how. That's how we do that.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

So. So it's really cool that happened. There you go. You got it. There probably won't be another set of Panos, but I don't think this is gonna be our last night vision. I was at the outdoor show that we were at. Cam.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

And me and Devin were walking around, and there was a site that was a night vision with thermal overlay site on it. It was like, I was like, a thousand bucks, fifteen hundred bucks, something like that. They had one that you could use in the show, and because it had, like, the thermal overlay on it. So I've used thermals to go hunting hogs before, and that's what you want. You want and an overlay. So I'm really thinking about maybe doing those next. Doing something like that. The reason why I love doing this is because of this. I think people are scared to. To buy certain technology because, like, I don't want to. Like, it's a lot. I mean, I'm not rich, but this is business money. So it's. It's marketing. It's. It's different. Like, if. Yeah, if. If I lose out on it and I just give it away to you, like, it's. It's just part of my marketing budget. But if a person spends, like, Their. Like, they're.

[C]

It's. They're not coming back, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You can't write it off on taxes.

[A]

Right. Their. Their wife let them spend $1,000 on something, and it better work. It better be perfect. So this is why I'm excited about doing these things, because I can come back and be like, hey, because it's a business, because it comes out on the marketing, I can waste my money on this, and that's fine. But it'll also make sure that you never waste your money on it. But if it works now, you don't have to be scared of, you know, of. It's not a gamble anymore, so I'm gonna keep. Keep doing these things. And I'm excited about it with the thermal overlay, too.

[C]

Those are really good for freefall jumps because you know how it is. Like, you jump out, like, Tucson, whatever, wherever you're jumping at. Like, there's tons of people out, and then there's city lights, and you can't see the strobe on your dudes. The strobe. Like, the only way you can see your dudes is when their canopies Actually break the lights.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So when you have the thermal overlay, overlay on your night vision, like we had the 31s with a thermal overlay. I could see the bodies underneath the canopy. And, like, I don't even need to see the dude, the canopies anymore. So it makes it a lot easier for free fall.

[A]

The only thing I didn't like about jumping and it's. And it's just like, this is a small thing. It. It wasn't. It wasn't nighttime. It wasn't Halo at 30, 000ft at nighttime. Like, I knew whatever this rucksack was going to do to me, like, it may be a wild ride, but I. I knew I was going to tame it.

[C]

It's gonna do you at the ground, though.

[A]

And we've all had to do it before. Hey, if I just can't ride this thing, I'm just gonna tuck it between my legs. I'm gonna punch it a little bit. I'm gonna force it. I'll get. You know, I'll open back up. At some point. I'm. It's gonna be rightable to where, like, I'm. The question is how. How much energy is it gonna take for me to fix this? But I know I can fix this. Here's the one part I never like, because there's nothing you could do about it. Hey, hey. Ho. Operations at night on a line out, you know, three seconds of pool, you got a half turn, basically already packed in there. And when everybody opens, if you open in front of someone, it might turn

[C]

you back at somebody.

[A]

That's right. And there's nothing you can do about it. There's not enough time to. It's kind of out of your. Although it never happened, so it's a little bit of a.

[C]

All we did, by the way. Yeah, that's all we did, by the way. So, like, I'm used to ripping a canopy and steering away from another dude that's about to collide with me. Right on opening.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So, yeah, that's the only one.

[A]

As soon as I got rid of that, I was like, all right, what if whatever happens from here I can handle.

[C]

You're good after that. You know what I mean? Like, once your parachute opens and you haven't collided with another dude, everything's good after that.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Parachute's open, it's flying like it should be. Yeah, for the most part. Like, except for I've jumped with MARSOC before, jumped out with them as the instructor. All the dudes. 15 dudes go off the plane. I did a gainer, just having fun. Throw it out. Boom. All of a sudden, my parachute's acting weird. My ripped off because they gave me night vision that wouldn't click into the mount. Good. So as soon as I deployed my parachute, my night vision came off and

[A]

smacked me in my face. That's right.

[C]

So here I am trying to click them back in while maintaining accountability of all my students in MARSOC. I'm like, all right, I got 15 jumpers up, calling through the DZ, still trying to click. But like you said, I can't be freaking out. I got students in the air. So I'm trying to put my night vision back on. I'm looking at them while trying to click them back in. Meanwhile, my parachute's in a malfunction, and I know it is because I can hear the sound of it. So I'm like, okay, got my night vision on now. I'm like, okay, I got to fix it. My parachute, I have a whole side collapsed in, and my sliders weigh the heck up. Yeah. So, yeah, man, it's. It's frustrating. And a lot of people don't realize what all is comprised in a night freefall jump.

[A]

And at the end of the day, that's not the mission. That's the infiltration, Only just the beginning of it.

[C]

This is getting to the target.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's a mission in and of itself. Just getting to the target.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Via military freefall. You got to realize you're jumping out of a plane from could be 35, 000ft or below, and you're going out. You're opening your parachute at some altitude and flying it 40, 30, 40 kilometers across the ground, landing in a drop zone, securing your stuff completely undetected. And now you gotta walk 40 miles. And then the mission. And then the mission.

[A]

Speaking of jumping, here's something we didn't really dive into that I want to talk about. Your first deployment with Ranger regiment was a combat jump, was it not?

[C]

Yeah, it was.

[A]

Mustard stain, right off. Right off. No pun intended. Right off the rip. Yeah. To say, go over here, jump, do a combat jump, do a couple. Do some hits, and. And come. And come home. Yeah, you guys. I know you did, but I gotta ask anyway. You guys. You guys say the ranger creed in the aircraft before you. Before you jumped out.

[C]

I'm sure we did. I can't remember, but I'm sure we did.

[A]

So those are some of the things that, like, just gives me goosebumps thinking about it. Just an airplane full of American whoop ass, all saying the Ranger creed together before jump. I mean, gosh, if I. I'm sure no one did. I hope someone recorded that. I mean, that's just. That's just awesome.

[C]

I'll tell you for a fact, we either said it before we loaded on the plane or before we jumped one of the two. Because that, I mean, that's just the way the Ranger regiment does it. But yeah, my first deployment ever, I jumped like, so that was the coolest thing. I was in the military for all these years in the Ranger regiment, and then I'm like, hey, I want to go to combat. I jump in. I have a CIB.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

I got the CIB the easy way. Like later on you could get it. It was a lot harder to get it than what I got it. But back when I was in, all you had to do is fly over a combat zone and you could get it.

[A]

Oh, really?

[C]

Remember that? The old rules back in the day from Vietnam, they were still in existence when we came in the military. All you had to do is fly over a combat zone to receive the CIB But I actually jumped into it and actually did missions. So I had. Not only I had, you know, jump wings, but now I had that mustard stain. And then I had this cool CIB because I already had the Expert Infantryman's badge from all the testing, but now I had that wreath for the Combat Infantryman's Badge.

[A]

When you guys first got the mission, did you believe it? Were you like, ah, we'll believe it. There's a lot of naysayers like, ah, we're gonna rig up. It ain't gonna happen.

[C]

Well, our initial mission was to jump into Biop Baghdad International.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

We were in Saudi Arabia planning for that. And we were supposed to rig up. We had like 100 pound rucksack. We were supposed to jump in. They were estimating 75 casualties just from the planes getting shot down going in. And we're like, hey, this is gonna be like World War II all over again. You know, I mean, like D day. That's what we thought.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then they were like, yeah, we reconfigured this and we're not gonna jump there. We're gonna jump in other drop zones.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So we ended up jumping out in. Out in the western desert. We. There was like three drop zones we jumped on, but my company specifically jumped on H1, which is out in the western desert.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And we set the hub for you guys. You guys came in with like sas. It was like you guys and SAS working out of where we jumped in and see.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. West.

[A]

Do you remember what the. Do you remember what the. The elevation was you guys jumped out at?

[C]

No, it was cold. I do know that in the springtime was cold, but it. I mean, it could have been that dang night jump. Yeah, it was night time.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Low enough. Did you still have your reserve? They take your reserves?

[C]

Yeah, we had reserves, but here's the thing. I don't know the altitude.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know if anybody knows the official altitude. The lowest I ever jumped for no joke on record, was 800ft. But I heard that we jumped at 500ft. I'll tell you this. I came out the plane. I had MOP level 4 on, but without the mask. So the mask was in a case. Had the suit on the whole J list.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

We jumped in, come out, and I'm like trying to put my feet and knees together, but my mop. My mask is between my legs. So I try to pull it out from between my legs so I can get my feet. And he's already hit the ground. That's how fast it was.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And I broke my tailbone on that jump and had to suck it up. I couldn't sit on straight on my butt. I could only do right cheek or left cheek for the whole time I was deployed. Yeah. Lisa wasn't your taint. Yeah, yeah,

[A]

we've all have. Yeah. Now add that one on the list. We. We've had lower extremity injuries as well. Yeah. I'll tell you about the taint later.

[C]

Not good. I tore my taint out the free fall school, landing a big sergeant major.

[A]

Actually, you did. You also hurt your t. It's not good. Welcome to the. And. And now. And now we're a club of two. I love it. We talked on the recording how similar some of our. Our career was. You. And now we got that in com.

[C]

We got broken taint. I'll tell you about that later.

[A]

All right, back to the super chat.

[C]

I was on a T that was on a tandem jump, by the way.

[A]

Super taint.

[C]

Super taint.

[B]

All right, so getting back on track here with the super chats, we got Michael Hendrick, 9229 Brock. Did you teach the Pasadena police officers that trick they pulled which was released on video this week?

[A]

Like, oh, dang it.

[C]

I didn't.

[A]

How did I not see that video? Does anyone know what video that is Can. While they. While these are. Can. Can you look up magnet if you don't mind Pasadena police officer. You probably honestly have to do it. Something to pull up. Something to pull up. All right, well, we'll get back to you, Mike.

[B]

All right. Solely with another one. It says, has going public had a bad impact for either of you?

[A]

That's a good question, actually, Mike, what do you got?

[C]

Nothing for me. I mean, you. You're gonna have the naysayers. You know, there's always people that talk trash. Like, for example, the last podcast I went on. I don't even pay any attention to the comments or anything, but my wife does, and certain people do, and they tell me, but I'm like, you know what? You're gonna have naysayers. I was called the last one that.

[B]

That.

[C]

End of the breach. There's a lot of people referring to me as Tim Kennedy. They were like, yeah, and then he woke up, and I'm like, if you only knew me, man. You know, it's not. These stories are true, right?

[A]

Oh, I feel a little responsible then for that. For you. For you getting called to get it. He deserved it, right? Yeah, he deserved it, though. So he accidentally shot his fellow officer. Oh, no. By horsebang. What's that like? Horse playing? Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Police officer shot is a shoot.

[A]

Yeah, fellow officer. But, you know, there's. There's fun and funny shenanigans, and there's just stupid shenanigans. It's a fine line. Although that's way on the other side of the final.

[C]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

California. The negative thing of going public. There are some guys that I deeply respected, that I wish I could have always kept their respect, but they're just the ultimate quiet professional. And I know they're not happy that. That I'm. I'm public, and they believe Delta Force guys should stay quiet, in the shadows. And that's just. That's just. That's the unspoken oath, you know, that. That we took. And I don't mind other people doing that. In fact, I. I think it's a good thing that most people should. Should. Should do that. It's just not the. You know, I'm one of the oddities. Just not the path I ended up choosing. It was never something I intended on doing. But, you know, long story, but people who followed me long enough know why I. I started podcasting, and now this is. This is. Is the. This is just the path I happen to be on. But I. I hate it that you're not going to please everyone. I get that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But. Yeah, you just hate that there's Some people that you really respect that, you know, deep down, you kind of disappointed.

[C]

You like them, you love them.

[A]

I do.

[C]

But you're just like, he doesn't like me. You know, I, I've actually had the, the opposite thing. I thought a lot of dudes in the unit hated me. In my old unit hated me because of speaking out. But I've been to some events recently, and the dudes are like, hey, man, you're doing a good job, man. You're look, you're making the boys look good. I'm like, thank God. I guess they do, you know. And some of these were the guys that I thought would have hated me the most. Some of SAR majors, you know, that came to me and told me good stuff, and I'm like, thank God, man. I appreciate. Because I respect the crap out of these guys, man.

[A]

It's funny you say that. There's been some other guys that I thought for sure hated you. Hated me. And because you, that's. That have, that have reached out to me, you know, and be like, hey, love what you're doing. You know, you represent us well. You know, I'm not PNG from the unit. I've, I've done it right and those. But at the end of the day, it's like anything else. Like, no one cares about any accolades or the right things you do. Your mind just focuses on the few people who, who don't like you or the negative. That's where your mind goes. And that's just, that's for me to deal with. But yeah, it's true.

[C]

And there's always, like I said, there's always going to be naysayers. Yeah.

[A]

And, oh, yeah, I did get sued for $25 million. That wasn't that. That happens. That's, that's, that's a part of it.

[C]

That's definitely a nicer.

[A]

That'll end up being a positive. Just, just, just, just let, let that one play out.

[B]

All right. Another one from solely here, it says, what happens in RRC selection and what causes people to fail?

[A]

That's a good question.

[C]

That is a good question. So when I went through, I will say, at least during my selection, I think we had roughly 25 people, I'd say, start the selection. And most of these, these are rangers or some. There was a handful of dudes from outside the regiment. Most of the guys made it, or like, at least through the initial pieces, but it was the stress week. Those long days of land nabbing over, like, mountains, and it's like day after day after day, there would be like, less dudes and then less dudes. Like, we come back to the barracks and there's less dudes and then less dudes. And then like you. We never, like, as the students, we never got to see what happened to them. There would just be less dudes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And then all of a sudden, like, it's day for the board, right? We go into the board, and for us, there was eight dudes that went into the board, and of the eight of us, only four got selected. So we had a 50 failure rate at the board. I'm talking eight of these dudes physically finished the selection. Only four got six selected.

[A]

I love it and I hate it for two reasons. I hate it because at the end of the day, you know, those dudes who didn't make it did everything that I did physically that was asked of them. You know what I mean? Like, they, they, they did physically was asked of them, and they just weren't wired. Right. That. And that sucks. That sucks. But the good thing about that is it's a unit that said, hey, even there's more than just physicality to this job. You have to be wired. Right. And that's. And. And you have to have both. And we're going to maintain the standard. So. Yeah. So I get that. Could they have done the same job, though?

[C]

They could have possibly, but who knows? I. I'm not the deciding factor as to whether they would have been successful or not. You know, they may have put a blemish on the unit, you know what I mean? That we. I couldn't foresee, but the selection process is made for that. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. And they're. They're really good at it.

[C]

Yeah, they are really good. Like in our selection.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Our selection came from their selection. And their selection, I, I say produces the most premium product there is on planet Earth. So that's why our unit replicated that same selection.

[A]

We have a lot of guys that

[C]

fail the physical part of it, too. Yeah. And those guys passed the physical part,

[A]

but couldn't past the mental bar or whatever. And, and I love that. I love It's. I love the, the respect act. You know, there's a lot of respect, you know, to, to. To do that. But the two things, the respect that comes on, we're just going to do what they do. And also, like, a little bit of the humility to be like, we're not big enough to be like, oh, we know how to do better. We'll just. Why reinvent the Wheel.

[C]

Do what they're doing.

[A]

Just do what they're.

[C]

They got a good product.

[A]

Right. And. And it's why we talked about it again on, on the recording, and I'll drop that this Monday. And. And it's why our RRD slash RRC has such a good reputation in the community.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because they went out and did the right thing and they were like, hey, how do we. How do we. How do we do this the best way?

[C]

Well, you know what? One of the biggest compliments we used to get.

[A]

What's up?

[C]

We would be planning missions with like, JSOC headquarters, and they'd be like, are you guys Delta Force dudes? And we're like, we'll take it. I mean, I guess we could be. You know what I mean? But not like, we're like, nah, we're RFC guys. Oh, you got rangers? Like, yeah, okay, cool. And we were proud to be like, yeah, we're rangers, you know, I mean. Yeah, but we got accused of being you guys a lot, and we were

[A]

like, yes, that's awesome.

[C]

That's the accusation we want.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[A]

We're doing something right. Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What else we got?

[B]

All right, so we got one from Mr. Brad Freeman. 9 or 7928. It says, Always enjoy every guest reminding us that the USMC is the dollar tree of the U. S. Military.

[A]

It has to do with your comment that one battalion will, Will shoot up the whole ammo budget of the.

[C]

I'll tell you this, the marines are disciplined, though, man.

[A]

I do.

[C]

I'll tell you, I, I work the Marshall sock program. I helped create MARSOC's free fall program. And those dudes are like rangers, man. They're that discipline. And I like, here's the thing, like, if you chose, if you asked me, if you said, who are you going to choose for whatever mission? Doesn't matter what the mission is. But I only have. I can choose anybody in the military, but I cannot choose Delta Force or Ranger regiment. I'm going to choose marsoc.

[A]

You know what I love about it? We talked about this earlier. At the end of the day, the, the rangers are an infantry unit, but they're very specialized, and they, they have the. Because they're a smaller unit compared to infantry, they have the ability to be pickier at a very large scale, a large conventional scale. The Marine Corps are just the best because they hold standards.

[C]

They do.

[A]

I will. If you ask me, hey, do you want a division of infantry from the army or from the Marine Corps? To come back you up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm taking the Marine Corps.

[C]

Me too. They're just.

[A]

I hate to say that to some degree because I come from the army, but again, I, I'm not going to have blind allegiance to anyone.

[C]

Marine Corps is much as a whole unit. Marine Corps is much more disciplined than the army by far.

[A]

And guess what? Army, that's, that's on you. You wanna, you want that title?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Go do what it takes. Yeah.

[C]

Stick with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Or be like the Marines or be like the Ranger regiment. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

All right. Solely with another one. It says could all RRC pass Delta selection and vice versa.

[A]

I'm gonna take this real quick, if you don't mind.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

I think so. I, I do. I. And both ways, both ways. Both because they're so similar. I don't want to ruin it. I don't. But there's. I had to, I was waiting to ask you that question. Like, I don't think I've ever asked anyone that, that question about our selections. And you know, the similarities and so just know that that's in the recording, you know, Exactly. We're talking about when that comes up. I think, you know, hearing your board process, I mean, you're, those numbers are, are, are very, are very similar. So. Yeah, I, I think in a weird way it's a, it's. I think they cross, I think they cross over nicely. Now here's, here's the difference that I'll say. Does that mean everyone that gets selected, you know, and from RD is going to pass otc? Well, no, because not everyone that gets selected at West Virginia passes, you know, otc. Like that'll be like the, the next phase of it. And that's a very different, that. It's very different from walking around the woods to, to doing high level, you know, cqb. And so that's. That, that.

[C]

Well, I'll say this. So the selections are very similar. So I'd say the same dudes will pass both. Yeah, but like he said, the OTC pipelines are different. RC selection for a different type of dude than a Delta Force dude. Right. So there, there are dudes that could make it through both selection. Like I've had dudes that were in our season that made it through Delta Force selection, went all the way through the OTC pipeline. In the end, they, they got kicked out because they weren't what Delta Force was looking for, but they were what RC was looking for.

[A]

Two different jobs.

[C]

It's different jobs. Right. Even Though the dude was physically capable, both jobs, he was mentally more so suited for one job.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Does that make sense?

[A]

Of course. And it doesn't even mean he was. And I hate. And that's like, yeah, well, he must not have been good at CQB because he didn't make it to that. That doesn't mean you're bad at cqb. Like, so you weren't the best in the world at cb, you know, like, that's the best in the world, right? That's. That's crazy. I mean, you could still be really good. I mean, he made it all the way. I can already tell you if he made it all the way to. To the end. They were interested in that guy. You know, they were interested.

[C]

There's a guy, and I'll say his name. Dan McNeil. He's. He's a guy. Was on. Went through OTC with me. This dude went through selection and OTC all the way at you guys place. Went all the way to the end of otc. Got in a tiff with one of the cadre. I'll tell you, that guy's one of the baddest shooters I've ever seen in my entire life. He went through OTC with me after having come out of Delta Force. Otc.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm like, dang. He kept me on my P's and Q's.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

Because we shot with Jerry Barnhart. You know Jerry Barnard gives you a hat, right?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Well, I won half the hats. He won the other half. I'm like, dang, Like. Like, none of the other dudes, I don't think even got a hat the whole time. Yeah, but, like, that dude was a beast. He beat me more than I beat him. And he was same in the pipeline as me, but he had been through Delta Force, selection and otc.

[A]

Yeah, that's cool. That's another good question, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys are on it tonight.

[B]

All right, next one is going to be from north, south, east, west two. It says mood. Tonight is on point. Go, Nashville.

[A]

It is on point. It's a lively night. I like it.

[B]

All right, and then after that, we got David Hooksteed. It says, mike, great to see you on the show. Why do you think 2 think. Wait. Why do you two think the media and Hollywood push fate or false slash exaggerated war stories with seemingly zero vetting? Would like to hear an outside perspective. Have my own from the inside.

[C]

What's up, David? Good to see you. Congrats on getting married, by the way. And, yeah, I love that guy. Yeah, I love that dude too. Yeah, man. Like, a lot of these war stories, I wouldn't say are necessarily fake. At least the movies that I've seen, they just maybe be spun in a way that doesn't align with a proper narrative, if that makes sense.

[B]

Sense.

[C]

Does that make sense to you?

[A]

Of course. There's a. There's a narrative in Hollywood. I'm so sick and tired of. Of seeing it. Especially when. When the. Come on in, come on in.

[C]

There he goes.

[A]

The. And I hate it. Especially when the. When the. What's what I'm looking for. When the. The road to success or like, what they're looking for is. Is actually easy. And. And this is what I'm talking about.

[C]

I know.

[A]

300. 300. No, you go ahead. It's all right. Yeah, yeah. It's no. No big deal. And you guys can take those chairs. You guys take those chairs right there. The road map is super easy. And it's oddly enough, like, conservative to like, to some degree. Take the original movie, 300. It was just a bunch of warriors against good guys versus bad guys. Nothing about. Nothing about global warming. No. Narratives were like, hey, these are jack dudes that train for war and they're gonna kill these other guys who just aren't as disciplined in training them. It was a great movie.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You take, gosh, take Yellowstone, for example. Just traditional cowboy American values. And really, not a whole lot was insert on that. Just good guys versus cow, good guys versus bad guys. Cowboys win. And they did that to a degree with the Avengers. But they all. They could never help themselves. The sequel to 300. They screwed it up.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

The more the. The. The Avengers went down, they screwed it up. They just can't help themselves. And I'll never understand that. So, yes, Hollywood has a narrative, and even when they slightly get it right, they will come back later and make sure they screw it up.

[C]

Yeah, they for sure will.

[A]

They can't help themselves.

[C]

And that's the thing. Like the stuff that you guys see in movies that you see, like, you see like, movies. James Bond, whatever it is, that stuff's been done in real life. It actually, it really has by guys from his unit, guys from my unit, guys from other units, guys from the agency somewhere, that stuff has been actually done. So the movies kind of mess it

[B]

up a little bit.

[C]

They. They leave out a lot of the rough stuff. Like I was talking to somebody the other day. Reconnaissance isn't the most glamorous thing. Like when you're slow burn. Yeah, you gotta Suck it up out there in the woods. I like, for example, I've been drinking rain runoff from an airfield before because I was run. I ran out of water, you know, I mean I'm drinking this stuff that probably has like, like diesel fuel fuel mixed in it, you know, off an airfield before. But the setup for these missions is not that glamorous. So you don't hear about that in the movies. That's the stuff that we talk about on these podcasts.

[A]

Yeah. And, and, and when it comes to that, I'm not mad at Hollywood because it, they have to entertain people. So when it comes like exaggerations, the real story, everyone loves to hear the word recon, you know, things like that. It sounds cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because the movies made it cool because they, they could never. You want that two hour movie would be me and you sitting there trading off on a scope, pooping in a bag, writing things down and be like, I need, you know, I'm. My eye hurts from looking in the spotting scope. You want to take over for a little bit? Yeah, I'll take over for a little bit.

[C]

Mind you, we're pooping in plastic bags and burying it in the hole that we live in.

[A]

And that'd be the whole two hour movie. Yeah, because we were there for days. So you have to exaggerate it and you do. This is, in fact, you talk about that, about recce just not being glamorous. Nothing's worse that when you're in a recce element and you're out there for days. Days. But you're doing what's required for the guys to come in to be successful. And then those guys come in and they hit a target in 15, 20 minutes. They get back on a helicopter, high fiving and act like you never existed. Didn't miss a, didn't miss a meal, didn't miss a workout. And, and, and you get no respect, you know, of, of sorts of. And you were out there for days. Make it happen. But are you the rock star?

[C]

No, that's my life. Just so you guys know, that's my life. That's what we did. It's not glamorous. You do all the preparatory work for none of the kudos.

[A]

And even in real life you might be able to get a shot because at that point there's a window that you can take that you can take

[C]

a shot only in certain rare opportunities.

[A]

But if they don't present themselves. Yeah, you don't get to take a shot. Yeah, it's not a lot of sniper work.

[C]

It's a lot of reporting, like observation, Observation, more observation than.

[A]

And nerd work and radio work and satellite communications and compressing pictures to get them back there. It's, it's.

[C]

And that's why, like, for us in RRD back in the old school RRD days, those guys actually got to do some cool stuff because they're rangers, right? They're killers right off the bat, but they're trained on how to be stealthy. So JSOC used them a lot in the beginning of the GWAT as hunter killer teams. Like what you guys did with your indige, Right? But these are American hunter killer teams that are trained to hunt and kill hunter killer teams from other agencies, right? So like you would send the Chet shot or these different foreign troops and that were trained by Russia in Afghanistan to mess with our conventional troops and the Ranger regiment would send RRC to hunt down and kill these dudes. And so, and, and that's what. And because of their stealthiness and because of their ability to have tradecraft and be sneaky, these were the perfect dudes that go in. And because they're also killers as well, they could sneak in, set an ambush, and kill massive forces. And these dudes, like you talked about one of your buddies, I won't say his name, but you went through OTC with him. They came from there. And yeah, those dudes whacked a ton of dudes, man, because they would get on the high ground, they would set in on these dudes and drop bombs on them. It's not that they were necessarily killing them hand to hand. They're dropping bombs on. They're using Air Force JTAX as, you know, force multipliers to drop cast on these guys. And then, yeah, they were shooting them direct action as well.

[A]

But, you know, I almost, almost hate to put it like this, but I hope it gets. I hope I can convey this right. I said a lot of people know who Rod is or rrc, but they don't really know who they are. They don't really know what they do. And let's be honest, the reason they don't is because you guys did it, right? If you guys, if you guys would have gone out and, and got, and got everyone killed but one and had like a lone survivor situation, yeah, everyone would have known who you were, but because you did it right, no one knows who you are. And that's, and, and that's. In a weird way, it could have sounded one way, that's not a slight at a different unit, but that's but again, that's, but that's the reality, you know, and let's not, let's not ignore, like, that's unfortunately not the reason that, that, you know, you, you hear of some units and you don't hear of others.

[C]

Well, that's true. And, and that's because those certain units weren't trained for reconnaissance, even though, like, they believe that they're. That's their mission set. Right, Right. They weren't trained for reconnaissance, and they, they, they weren't set for success for that mission.

[A]

Right.

[C]

It's not because those dudes were bad human beings. They just weren't set up for success for that mission.

[A]

There you go.

[C]

Their unit said, hey, you're trained for this, even though they.

[A]

They weren't.

[C]

And they throw them out there. Whereas we are trained for that.

[A]

You're sdv. So you're sneaky in the water, but that doesn't mean you're on the land. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Land is different than the water.

[A]

What. What else we got? Back, Back to the super chats, Cam.

[B]

All right, a little bit of a broad question here from Sully. It says, what would you guys change about the US Military?

[C]

Well, broad, but a good one of those today. But I won't say that one, but we did talk about that out there on the porch.

[A]

Yeah, it's broad. What would you change about the US Military?

[C]

I would, I would specialize more on making sure that their training is more re. Robust. Right. I would, I would make. Honestly, I would make conventional forces like soft units. I would give them the same resources. I mean, if your body is going to be on the line, you deserve the same resources as a soft soldier. That's just the way I see it. Now the soft guys are going to get more training and stuff like that. There's going to be specialized units, but they should, they should deserve to receive the same equipment. I should say. What do you think?

[A]

Oh, man, this is. Of all the things you could change. I'm just saying the first thing that. That came to my mind. It's a weird one, but I can't sit here and think about it forever. We got a show to do. I would go back to the old school PT standards for sure because there was nothing wrong with those. I would do away with male and female standards. We're soldiers. There's just one standard. You can either make it or you can't. And the. We've just. We've complicated. We've complicated things.

[C]

I agree 100 unnecessarily.

[A]

So.

[C]

I agree 100. I like, void what I said and listen to what he said.

[A]

And in a weird way, even though. Even though it's a real kind of simple change, that would solve. It would solve a lot of the pro. It. That.

[B]

It.

[A]

The domino effect of that would solve a lot of them.

[C]

Yeah, you're right. Avoid what I said.

[A]

What else we got?

[B]

On to the next one. North, South, East, West. Two says Max. Not here again.

[A]

No, Max is a menace. And he's. He's not here this week either.

[B]

All right, another one from Sully says, who were the best military leaders in gwot?

[C]

That's hard to say, man. Let's say we had that. I'd say jsoc. I'll just throw JSOC out there, you know? I mean, because, like, we had dudes from your unit. We had dudes from my unit there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And those dudes were doing the right thing, man.

[A]

Generally speaking. They were.

[C]

For the most part, they were a high percentage. Yeah, yeah. Like, we had some great freaking guys. General Corella, remember that?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Like, I love that guy. The gorilla.

[A]

The gorilla, yeah. Yeah.

[C]

He was a good dude, man. As a Ranger Regiment colonel, but. And you guys had some good commanders over there too. I mean, SEAL Team six had some good commanders that ran the task force, too.

[A]

They did.

[C]

Like, Colonel Moore back in the day or Captain Moore. I think that's what they caught him back in the day. But, yeah, I mean, we had good command, you know, I mean, they were very well vetted.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yep. I. I agree with that.

[B]

All right, another one from Slowly. It says, would you meet with the enemy you fought, or do you hate them too much? Jason Fox, sbs, met with a former Taliban commander.

[C]

I have since met with these guys.

[A]

Have you really?

[C]

Yeah, some of them, dude, like, Afghanistan stuff, Like the rescue stuff. I've talked. I've had meetings with these guys.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

Yeah. And. And, dude, honestly, man, to be honest with you, some of the Taliban guys aren't that bad, to be honest. They're just money, man. They're just. They're just in it for the business. If they can make money, they're loyal to whoever pays them. So that's like you guys with the.

[A]

The.

[C]

Your. Your. Your friends with the Sentinel Foundation. That's one of the guys I worked with. And we found out that, hey, these guys are loyal to the guys that pay them, and very. And. And I'm saying very loyal. Yeah. So if you're paying their bills, they're very loyal to you, no matter who you Are.

[A]

Yeah. Again, just. Just. It's the only way I know how to answer this question. The Bible talks a lot about forgiveness, and, like, you're. You're my enemy while you're my enemy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But the war is over, and so I'm not. I'm not carrying that. I'm not carrying that over. I would abs. I would absolutely meet with them. I think that'd be interesting. Time to. Time to take the Tier 1 podcast on a trip.

[C]

I'll go with you.

[A]

We're going to Afghanistan.

[C]

Let's do it. Hey, you and I, we'll go to Afghanistan. We can meet with Taliban leaders, and I promise you it'll be good.

[A]

Yeah, I promise you. And I'm. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna take them back to where I got shot. You know what's gonna be funny? I'm gonna look at that place and be like, this is not how I remember it.

[C]

I know, dude.

[A]

I still have. I still have my Garmin 4 tracks with the GPS coordinates.

[C]

Oh, really?

[A]

Of where I was that night. Dude, man, it's in my room.

[C]

Yeah, but those guys, man, they're just. They're just looking for. They're just like us, man. They're trying to strive it out in this world. And don't get me wrong, some of them are very wicked and evil, and they came against us, and we fought and killed those dudes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But there are some of them that are just trying to eke it out in this world, just like us.

[A]

I always thought, like, on a human level, like, if, you know, especially, you know, the guys in this room that. That fought for America. If we were born in Afghanistan, would we be fighting America?

[C]

Of course I would.

[A]

With the same type of ethos that say that we were born with. And. Yeah, the answer. Yes. Think about it, like, how, you know, how. How could you carry that hate over? That's probably what I'd be doing, too.

[C]

Yeah. Think about it, like, if somebody just rolled up to my house, where I live out in the middle of the country, started, like, trials and frags at my house, I would be pissed, right? And I'm coming out with ars, and I'm about to shoot your butt up. You know what I mean?

[A]

Swing the mic over there. What did you weigh in on this conversation? How does that. How does that. How does that rub you? Okay. And you can have a difference of opinion. Yeah. I don't want group think, like, whatever you think, but I'll say this.

[C]

Like, Hamas, my.

[A]

Like Palestinians. I wish the Israelis killed Every living thing.

[C]

I don't care if it was a plant or a bug. Everything.

[A]

Those people are inhuman.

[C]

And I spent a lot of time

[A]

in Gaza and lost half my team

[C]

there for absolutely nothing.

[A]

So. But yeah, as your guys's point, as

[C]

far as the Taliban and Afghanistan, some of the greatest people I met, they give their shit.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It's significantly different. That's a good. That's a good spin on that. Because would I do the same thing to ISIS in Syria? No, I wouldn't.

[C]

Good point.

[A]

There's no reason to forgive pure evil.

[C]

Yeah, that's good.

[A]

Like, if they wanted forgiveness, I'd forgive them.

[C]

But if they truly repent.

[A]

Right. I have to.

[C]

You have to.

[A]

Not going too. These are people.

[C]

Hey. Truly repenting.

[A]

I mean, this is people. We've been giving them money for years. Years. I mean, that one move that day

[C]

happened to be for the Fulbright scholarship of all things.

[A]

Right? Yeah.

[C]

We've been funding all of them for decades. Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah, that's my take on it. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Afghanistan, much different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll give you that. All right, what else we got?

[B]

All right. For Mr. T Chambers, 807, it says. Did Mike's perspective change on how the U. S. Handles partner forces after Afghan fell? Is there a better way to handle those relationships after the operational wind shift? On either mill or intel side?

[C]

For sure. I dealt with that heavily because I created a group to rescue the Afghans out of there and our government. And as I'm sure Brent would attest to, like, told us, like, hey, these guys are your guys. We're gonna always support them. We're always going to take care of these dudes. We rolled out of there and we straight left these dudes flapping, man. And here's the thing. My ARU dudes, the guys I trained in RRC when I was working over there, those are the dudes that helped us rescue the Americans. Dude, these dudes were surveying LZs for me. They were freaking running routes, they were proofing routes. They were making sure stuff's clean so I could pull Americans out. They worked until the last day. And then when we pulled the Americans out, our government said, piss on y'. All. We're leaving y' all there. So, yeah, dude, these guys were legit dudes. They were very loyal to us. The ones that we had now, like, and I'm not saying you cannot say this with all of them, because you guys that have served over there, you know, you cannot trust all these Afghans. But the ones that we Had. Were very thoroughly vetted. They had polygraphs. They had all that stuff that they did. And these dudes were solid dudes. And they worked for me. They worked for the agency to rescue American people. And then once we got them out, our government left them.

[A]

That's right. And they put on the line because they trusted us.

[C]

Yeah, they did. They trusted us, man. They trusted us.

[A]

Why would anyone trust us again? We did it to the Kurds. We did it to good Afghans. Like, we. We have a. We've. We got. We gotta. We got. We got to figure out what. As a. As a. As a government, we do. We have to figure out what. What right looks like and. And be better. And I'm not saying that's an easy answer, but let me tell you, it's like, we haven't even been trying here. Yeah, we haven't tried. All right, what else we got? Let's. Let's see if we can get through all of these super chats.

[B]

All right. Girl. Dad 13 says, what's up, boys? We know what Brent's favorite Kid up song was. Mike, did you have a favorite song before going out on a mission? We used Its Time for War by LL Cool J. Don't know why, but it worked.

[A]

I love it. All right.

[C]

Oh, dude. Another man. We had so many.

[A]

Can you pick a favorite if you have to top three?

[C]

We listen to some stuff that y' all would be ashamed of.

[A]

To be honest, I'm not surprised about that.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

I've had. I've been in some team rooms that, like.

[C]

You remember that group called Flyleaf?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yes. Female.

[A]

Female. Rocks

[C]

are some fly leaf. Before we go out on mission.

[A]

I give you that. Okay. No, that's not bad. Okay. There you go. What do you got? What do you got? So we did early on, Samaritan's Purse has Operation Heal Our Patriots. It's a trip for your wife.

[C]

It's literally Alaska.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So part of that is that some of the people that are there or, you know, tithing by being there to serve you and that little girl.

[B]

And she is little.

[C]

I mean, I want to say she's

[A]

like 411 tatted up both sides. I'm like, man, where do I reckon she's serving us breakfast in the morning?

[C]

Right?

[A]

And I'm like, who is this chick? And it ended up being the lead singer of Flyleaf.

[C]

Oh, nice.

[A]

So. And so I've got a cool recording of her just singing with her little kid, you know, singing that her. I forget. With that famous Song I'm so Sick. That was one. That was one of the. The real big songs.

[C]

One of my ranger buddies, actually, Ed Graham, his dad is Franklin Graham, who, like run Samaritan purse, you know, So I got dealt with him with some of the Afghan stuff as well.

[A]

Nice. All right, keep it going.

[B]

All right. Another one from Mr. Sully.

[A]

It says, I. I can't believe it's taken this long for a Nick Irving question to come up.

[C]

Oh, really, Pack guy?

[B]

It says Nick Irving said Ranger NCOS beat him when he argued with an ANO the day before. Is this normal in Ranger regimen and is it Right.

[A]

Ranger NCOS beat him when he argued with an nco.

[C]

So I would say they probably didn't physically beat him, but they probably beat the piss out of him physically in another way.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Like. Like what I talked about. I got smoked, like, beyond belief. Right. And you have to take for a grain of salt what these guys say that were in the regiment for like four years.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Four to six years. They have a taste of it. Don't get me wrong. These guys are legitimate rangers. They're legitimate special ops guys, but their. Their perspective on that unit is very limited, if that makes sense.

[A]

Yeah. As well as the era they were in. That's right.

[B]

Lucky seven.

[C]

Next question.

[B]

It says cigar Glock. There is a wrong answer.

[C]

I got this quick. It's a Glock for sure.

[A]

All right. We're moving on for sure. Everyone's still getting along in this room. All right, thank you, Flucky.

[B]

So solely with another one. Worst and best time in war you both had.

[C]

Oh, man, you go first.

[A]

Oh, you know, that one is. Is just more holistic. The best time is I've had in war is when you're on a really good team with your best friends. It's just the best time of war effort. And one of those is with an ODA that I had. That was just the best group of guys I could ever ask to be with. That was when my.

[C]

Ever was that ever, ever. Okay, nice.

[A]

Like, good to hear. I still keep in contact with those guys. They're just. They're just super dup.

[C]

Even once you got to the unit, that was your best team. That I'm just asking to clarify.

[A]

Not. I hate to say, I want to say in a weird way, like, not performance.

[C]

I know what you mean. I know what you mean. But there's a difference.

[A]

As a group of guys that gelled and would just. And just would just do anything for each other. Yeah. The problem with a high performing unit Is sometimes you have a. You have a bunch.

[C]

You do it just to do it sometimes.

[A]

Yeah, you have a bunch of singletons that. That are kind of on a team. Yeah, I don't know. You know, I know what you mean.

[C]

Yeah, I know what you mean.

[A]

That's a little bit dramatic, to put it that way, but it feels that way at times. But everyone's just in competition with each other.

[C]

A high level of com.

[A]

So my dive team was just. Was. Was just a special group of guys.

[C]

What team was that? What group? 20th group. What was the team number? You don't mind?

[A]

No. AM I not 2075 is what they started out as, and they became 2315

[C]

number change for the guys out there. 20th Special Forces groups, a National Guard group. It's absolutely hands down most professional guys. Some of the most professional guys I've ever worked with. Be honest with you.

[A]

Worst time in war. The night. The night we lost John Dunbar and. And our. And our SAS counterpart, Matt. Matt Tunroe. That was. That's probably. Probably the worst night.

[C]

And that was with 20th group or.

[A]

No, I was at the unit.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. To lose an SAS guy and. And your teammate on the same night

[C]

was just a lot.

[A]

I was a roommate for a while with. In Syria.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I was a roommate with Matt. Me and Matt got along really good.

[C]

That's a hit man when you're close to somebody like that.

[A]

He was a warrior. He was. We just got along, you know, like, Like, like, like old friends.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So. Yeah, that one. What do you got?

[C]

Yeah. So what is it worse than both time? Yeah, same thing for me, man. The worst time was, you know, I. I thought I was going to lose one of my guys when. That time when I got the Silver Star, one of the dudes got messed up bad enough. I thought one of my guys was gonna die. So I was hanging out in the hospital. When I found out that he was good to go, I was happy. But the best times, you're right. And. And I like. As a Ranger, more of my good times were working not with the Ranger Regiment, believe it or not. Believe it. And even though I talk a lot of trash about Seal Team 6. You know what I mean? Talk a lot of trash about Seal Team 6.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But some of the best times I ever had was working with Seal Team 6, to be honest with you, doing the Omega stuff at a Red Squadron guys at Omega 50. When I work with those guys and those guys know who they are, those guys were professionals, man. And we had part. We drank Beer. We had a good old. We had a lots of fun. We did legit work, and that's what it's all about.

[A]

Love that. Love that. What else you got?

[B]

All right, on to the next one. It's TG Para 2786. It says about Face is the best military memoir. Would make a great series. Also, when was the last time you jumped at Paraclete? I started my AFF in July 2020.

[A]

That one's for you. When's the last time you jumped at Paris?

[C]

I've only jumped at Paraclete, like, maybe once or twice. Most of my jumps are outside of that. I think that's more for you because it's a brag guy.

[A]

Yeah. I don't the. There was a pair is that they also had the wind tunnel.

[C]

Yeah, the wind tunnel is called Paraclete.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, we. We had a lot of time in the. In the wind tunnel, but we didn't. We didn't use their drop zone.

[C]

Yeah, I never did either, either. Yeah, I. I flew in their wind tunnel a couple times, but I never used their drop zone.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Actually never use their drop zone, but, yeah, had had a ton of tunnel. Tunnel time in. In. In there. Yeah.

[B]

All right, Mr. Holy Fook One Holy Folk, Mike. Bigfoot or UFOs? Any stories on either?

[C]

I've never had any experiences with UFOs that I know of.

[A]

All right. I love them. That I know of. Okay.

[C]

That I know of. But I will say. And I can't say anything about definitively on Bigfoot, but I do know I was hunting one time on Fort Benning, Georgia.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And I'm like, I'm a big hunter, right? I used to be back until I started hunting human beings. And then hunting animals got boring.

[A]

Right. But was that those big girls down there?

[C]

No. So I'm in the woods in the middle of nowhere on Fort Benning, hunting, and I. I hear this. And, like, it's dark, bro. Like, it's like. Like, I'm like, can I shoot a deer straight below my tree stand?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm like, yeah, it's still enough light. You know, something like one of those things. Like, I used to hunt so much, I'm like, I'm gonna stay here until there's absolutely certainty that I can't kill a deer, and then I'm gonna leave.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

So I'm at that point in the woods, and all of a sudden I hear this thing only gone two feet running by me in the woods. I'm like, what the heck is this? Thing, man, it scared the crap out of me so much. I was in a climbing tree stand that I stayed there for like an hour after it passed to make sure it was done. And then I free fall that thing all the way down the bottom and left it and went and took off. And then later on, I heard of some of my RC buddies who were in Washington state, up in, like, Spokane area. They were doing a tactical recce up there, and they were driving an SUV down a gravel road, knotted out, like, with, you know, a tac up. You know what I mean? Like, on the computer. Like, back. It was Falcon View back in the day, or Falcon.

[A]

I do remember Falcon View.

[C]

Falcon View.

[A]

I was an 18 echo. I had. I had to know Falcon View.

[C]

That Falcon View, which was like. It was like, for you guys on tv, it's like. It's like Google gps. But back before that existed. Right. We had it in the military, but it was on a computer.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so we're on Falcon, if you will. Tough book. Yes. CF18. Tough book, Panasonic. Tough Book. So we're like. They're, like, watching this thing, like, nabbing, and they're rolling. They said the moon was out super bright, and all of us and all the windows are rolled down. They're creeping. Because they're in the national forest in Washington, and they have special access there to where they can go and pick the locks and go in and lock it behind them. But they're allowed to be in there, right? So dudes have picked the locks. They infiltrated this forest. They're deep into the forest. And the driver slams on the brakes. This is one of my teammates. Slam. I wasn't there with this event. He told me about it later. Slams on the brakes, and everybody's like, what the is going on? You know what I mean? And they look up and they're like, there's this thing standing in the middle of the road and Broadway, like, moonlight with night vision, which, you know, it's like daylight with night vision on. They're like, this is monstrous thing standing there. And then it just takes off and it bolts into the woods. And my buddy told me, he said, it's like it took the forest with it. It was like, trees are snapping off at the base. Snap, snap, snap. This thing takes off. And all these dudes recognize this, and they're like, what the heck was that thing? And then they just continued the mission. So I don't know what that was, but it was something very weird. And I've experienced something similar to that. Myself, I don't know what it was.

[A]

All right. I don't know what that was there in Spoke in Spokane, but I'm pretty sure I know what it was. In Georgia with you.

[C]

What was it?

[A]

That was a lost lieutenant from Ranger school Compass course.

[C]

Could have been.

[A]

That's what that was.

[C]

Totally.

[A]

Yeah. That's my best guess. I don't think I'm too far off. Off.

[C]

Totally.

[A]

All right, what else we got?

[B]

All right, solely with another one, it says how often does RRC work with other units and is there friction? How is that dealt with?

[A]

If so, talked about that on the recording and kind of in depth. But yes, we.

[C]

We deal with a lot of guys and honestly there's not a lot of friction. To be honest. We dealt really well with most guys. Yeah, I mean, honestly, there. There was a little bit of friction with Seal Team 6 and occasions, but for the most part, working with his unit and working with the Ranger regiment and all the elements, it was smooth.

[A]

Oddly enough, when you're the guest, you usually get treated kind of better. Like the. The passing through or you're a guest at. At other units. Most units treat obviously treat people very well. True. So I think kind of works out in your favor for the most part. Yeah.

[C]

Cuz we're always guests, man. And like, honestly, my. My experience was we were very well taken. Taken care of for the most part.

[A]

Love to hear that. What else we got?

[B]

All right, our winner. He asked the question, would you rather

[A]

you better donate a lot more than that.

[B]

He said, would you rather was the best game sitting on an op in Afghanistan.

[A]

Would you rather was the best game scene? Oh, yeah. You know, I never did the Would you rather game sitting on in an opinion.

[C]

Yeah, me either. I don't even know what that is. What even is that?

[B]

It's. It's kind of more or less like you. You give someone two different options and more or less they're usually both bad options. You have to pick which one you'd rather.

[C]

Never even heard of that. That's interesting.

[A]

Yeah, I don't really. I don't. I don't know what. We just talked about random things. We didn't talk about like something in particular.

[C]

No, we're talking about chicks and talking about dude, you know, like going out partying, like having fun, like we're gonna hang out with ch. Chicks. When we got back, like, it was all like dude stuff.

[A]

You know what's worse is I've had people in this podcast. Xavier's one of them. I've spent a A good amount of time with Xavier, and he was a guest on my podcast when I really learned his whole military story. We don't even talk about relevant things as guys. We just talk about random stuff.

[C]

Trash, to be honest with you. Yeah, well. Well, once you come to the realization that you and I have come to, like, it's all trash.

[A]

The. It is. All right, let's. Let's mow through it.

[B]

All right. Another one from Sully says, on average, how long do people serve in Rangers/RRC and Green Berets and Delta? Why do people leave when they do?

[C]

I'll say, at least in the Ranger Regiment, there's dudes that do the entire career there. And then in rc, like, there were dudes that were there that, when I got there, that had been there for 14, 15 years, so they had done their entire. Pretty much their entire careers there. And I'm sure it's the same way with Green Beret and, of course, with Delta Force.

[A]

Yeah. When you're in a good unit and you've worked that hard like that, you don't leave it.

[C]

Yeah. You don't want to leave.

[A]

Why would you ever want to leave it? So you only. There's only two reasons. You leave. To retire or you get fired. And getting fired isn't that common, but it. But it happens. Most people just leave because they. They stayed there as long as they possibly could. And that's a good thing. Yeah.

[C]

What else?

[B]

All right. Holy fook. Another one says, Mike, what was your call sign name? Did you have any nicknames? We know Brent's Green Bray's name, but he won't release his Delta name yet.

[C]

Yeah, we had. We had names and ours were, you know, I'm not going to talk about those things because those are. Things are classified. But we did have call signs, and they, you know, they stood for a certain thing.

[A]

But.

[C]

Yeah, I'll just keep that secret for now.

[A]

Fair enough. Keep it going.

[B]

Just incredible. Just finished a glass of Glenn Fittage and an FRCC cigar. Trying to stay awake long enough for the giveaway.

[A]

Oh, well, you got it. And we gave it away to just another infantryman. Yeah, yeah, he got it.

[B]

All right now. Bacon forged has one. It says a green gray grabbed his mic at 8. The Thursday Live stream actually on straight. The super chats flowed while the Patreon growed were live, and for once, they weren't late.

[C]

Oh, my riddle.

[A]

Nicely done. How long did it take him to think that up? And I love it. Look how. Look how classy. Look how classy Our. Our community is.

[C]

Nice little rhyme there.

[B]

Yeah, that was good. Now another one from Sully. It says, are you guys more or less happy after leaving the army?

[C]

I'm more happy. By far more happy. I take all the experiences that I got in the military and I use those to apply. Apply them to my future life. But I'm much more happy now. I get to spend more time with my family. I get. Spend more time with God, like Brett and I talked about. But, yeah, that's the key.

[A]

The key to happiness is in the military.

[C]

It's not.

[A]

The key to happiness is in that book right there in the corner of my desk.

[C]

I concur.

[B]

All right, so this goes back from our. Our winner once again. He actually gave you guys a. Would you rather. So you get a little taste of it? All right, Would you rather do the long walk carrying a ruck full of Robbo's piss bottles or. Or Tim K's inflated stories?

[A]

They're.

[C]

I'll take Kim. Tim K's inflated stories because they're a lot lighter. It's just air. It's just hot air.

[A]

Hot air. Okay, but there's not a rough. Big enough to hold them. So we're in a quandary here. That is a true story here. That is a true statement. Give me that. That's right. That's. That's what we'll do. You got to.

[B]

All right, next one quad A, N9P 1Z. Do you think Ukrainian soldiers know how to fight trench warfare better than Rangers?

[A]

Oh, that's. That's a good question.

[C]

I don't know I've ever been there.

[A]

I'm gonna go. Yes. Because they've been doing it.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know. I haven't been there.

[A]

It's like we talked about the beginning of gwad. We weren't ready for it. No, we.

[C]

Until we did it.

[A]

Until we did it. So. Yeah, but. But this. But I'll tell you this. If Rangers have been doing trench warfare as long as the Ukrainians have done.

[C]

Have been doing it, they would be the best.

[A]

They'd be the best.

[C]

They would be the best. That's the truth. I will say that long. You give Rangers a task and you tell them to be the best, they will be the best at it. Yeah, they will be the best at it. Promise you. That's why if you look at it, what's the best Sniper competition? Who wins it? Rangers. Who wins the best? Ranger. Rangers. Who b. The best Medic Rangers. It's just the way it is, you know?

[B]

All right, on to the next one. Sunny Marbury says, sup, fam? I'm late to the party, everyone. Everyone already let me know how late I am.

[C]

So.

[B]

Yeah, anyways, I'll be listening in. I'm building a wall for my mother in law. Some do good love y' all guys like family.

[A]

Oh, good to see you, Sonny. Better late than never. We'll take it.

[B]

All right, right, wing gun nut one says Mike. Thoughts on women in the Rangers and why is it wrong? Great to see you on here, brother.

[A]

All right.

[C]

I think it's completely wrong because honestly, I don't think God created women to be warriors, for one. But not only that, it builds a dynamic within a team that's just not conducive to, to, to productivity. Like, I mean, and like, and I know Brent's seen it before too. Like, we had the CST chicks that back before women were ever authorized in any of this stuff, we had the CST women that Delta Force and Rangers trained to work with us. And they were absolutely stellar. Don't get me wrong. These were women that were officers. They were superstars. But at times we had issues because when you throw a woman in the mix of a bunch of hardcore warriors, things are going to happen, you know, I mean, it's just the way it's going to be.

[A]

Right? Let's, let's live in reality here for a second. There's a way things maybe should be. There's a way things are.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So. But I've always said it this way, the quickest way I can say this. The Olympics is the most sexist organization in the world because they're like, there's no way women will ever be as strong as men. So we're going to give them their own class so they can win gold medals. So if gold medals are that important to separate men and women, how much more important is combat? Yeah, just the best. Prove. Prove me wrong. No one can do it.

[C]

Nailed it.

[B]

All right. Jillian Sheffield, 1084. It's my 30th birthday today. Spending it with the boys. Vince Baltimore, Leo.

[C]

Happy 30th birthday.

[A]

Happy 30th.

[B]

All right. And then solely says, I've heard of cash bribes being given to Taliban to get them to stop attacking. Eg, Siege of Musakale uk. Have you heard of this and is it wrong?

[C]

Oh, I've heard of it a ton. It has happened a ton. Back in the day, it was actually common that an average shipment in the United states, like a US military shipment going across Afghanistan, would incur roughly US$10,000 in bribes per day just to be able to make it to its destination.

[A]

So down now I'll say this.

[C]

Oh, it fell down.

[A]

How long ago?

[C]

Like just now. It just happened.

[A]

I've. I have heard of foreign militaries bribing the Taliban not to attack them, but I've never heard of an American unit doing that.

[C]

Well, the U.S. we actually paid them to do it on a large scale.

[A]

Yeah, keep going. This is gonna bug out.

[B]

All right. Holy fook. With another one. It says, Mike, any RRC guys receive a Medal of Honor? Have you seen or been in an engagement where one was deserved but not given?

[C]

I, you know, in rrc, it's kind of challenging. Me personally, my silver star was recommended for the upgrade to Medal of honor twice for dude, like two different people from two different organizations. So like I, like that would be me specifically. But honestly, there's a lot of dudes in RC that did things that were of highest caliber valor that was probably never honestly documented because of the fact that where they were. Like for example, when I went to rrc, all my medals and all my awards and all my deployment, all that stuff stopped basically because nobody cared anymore. It was just me, you know, so like I was out there doing my thing. There were other officers that put me in for awards, but no one ever tracked them. No one ever made sure that they made it to where they were supposed to go, even though I was told that that would get them. So that's the way it is. I mean, a lot of the most elite units are probably going to have the least awards when you really get down to it.

[A]

Agree. Well, let's get through this with a speed round.

[B]

All right, Holy food, answers and let's go. Mike, at night, do you sit or stand to pee? Brent will explain.

[A]

Good question. No explanation needed. He gets it.

[B]

All right. Solely with another one. Matt Cole said Seal Team 6 killed POWs in rigged hand to hand fights. They were terrorists. Did they deserve it or should they? Should those SEAL Team six be in prison?

[C]

I don't even know what that's talking about specifically, to be honest.

[A]

No, I read most of that. I didn't know they killed POWs and rigged hand to hand fights. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I'm not saying that. That's not what Matt Cole said. I'm just saying. I don't remember Matt Cole saying. I don't remember that, Mike. I was saying that. So, So I, I can't weigh in.

[C]

I'm not sure about that either.

[B]

Okay, TBD Sear. What's the choice for absolute silence suppress low vis rig, 9 millimeter or 300 blackout? Something else. What are you choosing, Mike and Brent? Smells like teen spirit Nirvana.

[C]

All right, so me personally, like, if I'm gonna shoot somebody, if you gave me the choice between 9 millimeter and 300 blackout, I'm gonna shoot him with a 300. 300 blackout because it's a bigger bullet. It's going to hit harder. It's coming from a rifle, but honestly, it's not my preferred round, even in that cal, you know, in that platform. But yeah, I'm definitely going to shoot somebody with that over the nine millimeter. But, hey, I think nine millimeter works too.

[A]

Yep. Mike. Mike's right on all accounts.

[B]

All right, human performance trt use the app to track the 30 day challenge bird.

[A]

I will fell. I will.

[B]

All right, 019. Does Delta actually train in cities at night in the US with little birds? Yeah, I always see the videos online. Any piss bottle stories, Mike?

[A]

They sure do. Yeah, they've seen the videos online, and

[C]

we do too, and it's stupid.

[A]

And I tell you what, it's not to do. It's not to train to take over US Cities. I hate.

[C]

No, it's training for overseas targets. Yeah, and that's the thing. A lot of people don't realize. We have to train somewhere.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Where are we going to train at? Yeah, we got to train in America.

[B]

We.

[C]

We can't be raiding, like, German houses and stuff like that. You know, we have to train here. So we train here. And. And, yeah, that stuff happens.

[B]

All right, just another one. 1B. Thanks, family. And, Brent, that is freaking awesome. Now I gotta go do something really good.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

You do. All right, D with another one. Magnet has a mustard stain, but a different one

[A]

from a hot dog. Grab a hot dog. Keep it going.

[B]

And another one here. Tavor G96. Next giveaway should be adoption papers for Magnet.

[C]

Okay. Oh, damn. Who's adopting?

[A]

Me. Yeah.

[B]

All right, T bone 6613. I know we are a week late, but both you guys have been through some things. What are your thoughts on what the boys on D day face storming Utah and Omaha Beach. Since no one said a song yet, how about Brent sings karaoke to Amos Moses for old Amos.

[A]

Moses.

[C]

Moses. That's a good song, actually. Hey, that's one of my favorites.

[A]

The guy 50 from the fallen was that.

[C]

No, no.

[A]

But the guy that was like, he's from the 50s. From the fallen. You know, you're like, hey, Hook, he's the one that got me hooked on at Amos Moses. All Jerry Reed.

[C]

Yeah, Jerry Reed's good, man.

[A]

Now I'm telling you, when it comes to D day, I've done some things. I've seen some things that was. I believe myself to be a man. I'm not those boys.

[C]

Those dudes are men.

[A]

Those boys were men.

[C]

Those dudes were men, dude.

[A]

I can't even imagine, bro. And I, and I love as a country that we do a really good job of. Of remembering what. What those boys sacrificed. And we should never forget that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I love it. All right. Holy fook. With another one new podcast called the Taint bro.

[A]

Taint Bros. I'm here for it.

[B]

All right, six's mom, please remember the random number for the year. Supply of frcc. Coffee is mine. Happy Kamehameha day. Outro song Bob Seeger against the win as a mahalo to the men. Aloha from Kauai.

[A]

All right, all right, all right.

[B]

Joe Saunders. Yippee ki yay. The Tank club are qualified. Isn't there a ribbon for that? Lol

[A]

I have to make. I'm sure that'd be cool. We could make up a cool ribbon for it.

[B]

All right. Chase Lee, 39.65. Evening, gents. Had a rowdy day at work. Two pieces of equipment went down. No shits given. Because it's Thursday night.

[A]

That's right, boys.

[B]

Frcc.

[A]

Absolutely, absolutely. Doesn't matter. Nothing you do, nothing new to change it. So just keep rolling.

[B]

Indeed. So we got three coming in from some mill sim nerd.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Difference of Reese between CAG and rrc.

[C]

Difference of recce is what that means. And that's the thing. Like RRC is going to be doing more of a strategic recce type thing. So for example, if there's a mission where Delta Force is going to operate that target, right? Oh, knock that over. So if there's a mission where Delta Force is going to operate or execute, I should say that target, they're going to have their recce dudes involved as well. But there may be RRCs RC guys outside of that bubble, wrecking it from a different vantage point, preparing them for that battle as well, if that makes sense.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right, next one coming in from the same person. I know Brent's not here, but it says to both. Did y' all do arctic or jungle training?

[C]

Yeah, and that's the case. I mean, that was done in both units. I will say his unit as well. We did Arctic. Arctic. Arctic and jungle training in the Ranger regiment prior to the gwat, Arctic and jungle training were like a common place. Once we started kicking off the gwat, you know, guys started focusing more on the desert stuff and not so much the Arctic and jungle, but the Arctic and jungle stuff was part of our training pipelines. Like as Brent will, I'm sure will attest to. There he is.

[A]

But the, the, the cag.

[C]

What? Arctic and jungle training.

[A]

Okay. CAG recky just supports cag. You know, for the most part, you guys, you will. Will kind of get pimped out across everywhere. But we traditionally don't do you Arctic or jungle training. I didn't do either. I don't do either.

[C]

I did Arctic on no jungle. But, but I know rangers did a lot of jungle stuff back in the day.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But it wasn't applicable for the G WAT so we didn't do a whole lot of it.

[A]

You know, the SAS and their pipeline, they have a jungle phase when they fly out to like Malaysia or something like that and just, they just live in the jungle and do jungle stuff. And I love that.

[C]

Yeah, I think it's good.

[B]

All right, next one. Do you think RRC is the best at MMF and JSOC Military free fall?

[C]

Yes, I'd say yes. And I like, like, I just have to say that, man, they are the. You got to think it's the smallest of all the tier one units. They have the same funding. But here's the thing. Their, their job is still influence what's going on here. Their job is to infiltrate into places no one else can. So if anyone gets the funding for the MFF stuff, it's them. They kind of get it before even those guys in certain circumstances.

[A]

I agree with that. It, it lines up with your, with the mission. Yeah. With your mission set. Yeah. You should be.

[C]

It's the mission set. Yeah. That's why.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. Joe Saunders. Yippee Kaye. It says, honest question, no jokes. Would you compare the RRD rain or range recon is different or a descendant of the long range patrols of Vietnam. LRRP pronounced lerp. Honestly curious.

[C]

It's definitely a descendant of it. You know, they took all those skills and made them. Took those skills and added things to them.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Another one.

[A]

In fact, you mentioned that during the recording.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

By the way. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

[B]

Another one from solely. Is RRC CQB comparable to Delta?

[C]

No, absolutely not. Now dudes can do cqb. They can do individual things and clear themselves and provide like escape route for themselves so that like, rangers or Delta Force can come rescue them if. If needed. But no. Like, there's no capability like that.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Chase Lee. 39652502 from the 101st. Holds the standards. Been there. Did that. I wish that accountability was the same in civilife. Smh.

[A]

Love it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, but guess what? You can control what you can control. So make sure that accountability or standards are. Are there wherever you are.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Zulu Whiskey, you reminded me when you mentioned the James Bond stuff. I heard that Ethan Hunt from Mission Impossible is based off a Delta dude. Any truth?

[A]

No. He's based off of if. If only. I don't think he's based off of anyone. But if it was, it had been like an M. MI5 or MI6 guy.

[C]

Yeah. Potentially. Or league even. The stuff we did in rc, we did a lot of that stuff too. Is we.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

We were trained. So, for example, that's one of the cool things about rc. We were trained to do everything like James Bond can do, basically. Did we do that in real life? No. But we were trained to do that. You know, and that's the thing. Like, what we did in real life was more on the tactical realm, but we were trained to do all that other stuff as well.

[B]

Okay. Holy fook. With another one. Mike, did you work with or alongside the British ssr?

[C]

I did.

[A]

That's a good question. Sometimes I don't know how they know these things.

[C]

You're right. That's a good point. Like this person is actually knows what they're talking about.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So. Yeah. I did do some brief work with the SRR guys in Afghanistan. They were doing some similar stuff to us. Doing the clandestine stuff with the Afghans that we did. And we did. Did some interagency stuff with them. Not a whole lot though. Not a ton.

[B]

Okay. Matt Hag a rip. Retired police chief Steve Cornett. He was killed two weeks ago. Hit by a car on the side of the interstate working as a truck driver. Very good family friend. Will be missed in our community, man.

[A]

Absolutely. Rest in peace, Steve Cornett.

[C]

Sorry to hear that.

[B]

Okay. Chase Lee. And two years of enlisted service to be an O type.

[A]

Do you know what that means? Okay.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Sometimes they're just comments. Okay. Okay. I was thinking blood type.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Officer type.

[C]

Yeah. I think. Officer.

[A]

Two years of enlisted. I do think that you should be. I would. I. I wish our officer corps. We're all Mustangs. They. We should recruit them from enlisted. Whether it be a two or four year. They would do much better getting four years as enlisted than four years in college.

[C]

100% doing here.

[A]

What are we doing?

[C]

100% agree.

[B]

All right, Howie. Arms 8214. Do you think in 30, 40, 50, 60 years, we will go back to Afghanistan or Iraq like World War II vets have been?

[C]

I personally believe. Me personally, I believe the Bible. I don't think we have that much longer. I don't think we have that much time, to be honest.

[A]

I wouldn't disagree.

[B]

All right, TG para 2786. You guys have been talking about the withdrawal a lot tonight. Are you gonna do a video about it? As an hki, a vet, I would be happy to watch it.

[A]

I have to think about how. How to put that together. It's kind of a. Not against it. I'm not against it, but it just has a. I might. I might. Actually, I am pretty upset about it.

[C]

Yeah, I've. I've spoken out about it. You guys can look me up on Fox News and newsmax. I've spoken out about it back years and years ago. You have to dig. But I've spoken out the truth on what was going on over there. So, yeah, I've spoken out. All right, already, I should say.

[B]

All right, I believe. This is Drew, right? Truth in the Dark podcast.

[A]

Drew.

[B]

Shout out Drew. He has one. It says outro Song in America by Charlie Daniels.

[C]

Needs to be a Simple man. Needs to be simple man by Charlie Daniels.

[A]

That's what Drew wants. That's what Drew gets.

[C]

Yeah, dude, let's do it. Drew, I know you're not here, but hey, let's do it. Simple Men by Charlie Daniels.

[B]

All right, Brent Huberty, 7153 asked, did you ever fly with or call in a Huey/COBA Squadron Dealer or hacksaw in Afghanistan and. Wait, Hellman, Providence in 2010 or 2012?

[C]

Is that about me or you?

[A]

Yeah, I. I was in the unit at that time, and, you know, we had our own air support assets, so I. I wouldn't have. How about you? What say you?

[C]

20. 2012. 2012. I was still in the mix. There's a possibility. There's no telling. I can't say for sure. I mean, I. I was in RRC at the time and I was directing, and I was in a lot of gunfights with Delta Force and with Ranger Regiment, so there's no telling.

[B]

All right, Il Gaviano, 1563. What were your experiences like with the Air Force Tier one guys? What do you make of the Air Force trying To become a unilateral assault slash recce element.

[C]

Well, they'll never be a unilateral assault slash recce element. They're just not created for that. They're a support element. Just like. Like, to be honest with you, us and rrc, we're a support element. A lot of people don't want to realize that, but that's what reconnaissance is, support for the freaking raid, bro.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Like, you know, I mean, like, we're support for the assault force, and that's what the 2 4sts is. And they're good at it, man. Like, we need those dudes with us to drop bombs, but they're never gonna be a legit recce or assault force. And like. Like, even their. Their. Their special reconnaissance element, they. They have, dude. And I've trained those guys, and they're good dudes, but I just can't see them replacing RRC in certain aspects. The stuff that they do is more specific to the realm that they have, that they have to deal with. I'm. And I'm saying this in vague terms because I'm not going to disclose these things on the Internet, but the things that they have to thwart, we can thwart those as well. Yeah, that makes sense.

[B]

All right, one from Tank or Frank Tibbett.

[C]

Excuse me.

[B]

E1Z. Would you rather spend one year in jail, guaranteed, or leave only when you can solve a Rubik's Cube outro 10 years after I'm going home?

[C]

Oh, I'd rather do a year in jail because it'll probably take me that long to solve the Rubik's cubicle.

[A]

Least I'll just. I'll just peel the stickers off and place him where I want them to be.

[B]

You got enough time?

[A]

I'm a problem solver.

[C]

I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot. I should have listened. I should listen to Brent.

[A]

What else?

[C]

Put them back on.

[A]

Well, what do you got?

[B]

All right, the real Justin G87. Late to the party. Jizro, the super seal moans when he wipes.

[A]

Oops. Oh, gosh. Oh. All right.

[C]

What do I have to say to that? I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, take your word for it.

[B]

All right, we got two more left for Mr. Holy Food. Oh, we got one more. Mike, if you could do anything different in your military service, would you have changed anything?

[C]

No, I wouldn't have changed anything because as Brent will attest, you know, God, our. Our holy Father up in. In heaven, he. He put us on this path for a reason. He put us there. To design us to be the people he wanted us to be. So I wouldn't change anything.

[B]

Another one, same guy. Like I said, it says, Mike, who was your favorite foreign unit to work with? What other foreign units, if any, compared to rrc?

[C]

I never worked with any foreign unit. And, you know, this is. So take this with a grain of salt. In the Ranger Regiment, we don't work with a lot of foreign units, to be honest. To be honest. We don't. We don't work with a lot of foreign. I work with the Thai special ops guys, but that's it. And so my perspective is very skewed, to be honest with you. I can't say. I. I just love Americans, you know?

[A]

Yeah, we. We didn't either, you know, that's not the thing about Tier one is because when you're a tier one unit, it's really hard. Other foreign units aren't supposed to see and know exactly how we operate. So we will do most things unilateral or not. Not do things with foreign units.

[B]

All right, another one coming in from Drew. It says, I like simple man better, but most know that one don't sway, and most do not know in America. So that's why I did that.

[C]

Simple man is one of our favorite songs.

[A]

Is it?

[C]

It is my. One of my favorite favorite songs, by the way.

[A]

You're getting it.

[B]

Or we could do the South. It's going to do it again.

[C]

Lol.

[B]

Not uniting, though.

[C]

Lol. Hey, both songs, whoever that guy is, just. You're a man after my own heart. Because both of those songs are both of my favorite songs. I mean, to be honest.

[B]

All right. TG Para says previous hka, ia, vet watch for my dm.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[B]

Another one from Chase Lee. It says, thank you, Bert. You got what I meant about the two years enlisted service. I know you're a vet guy, but we all love Mustangs in that aspect.

[A]

I love Mustangs in that aspect.

[B]

All right, another one from Joe Saunders. Yippee Kaye. One last question. Is the RRC a volunteer thing or is it like the 18x from what I learned, a pipeline thing, meaning could you walk into a recruiter's office and request rrc? Curious.

[C]

No, you can't. It's one of those things that you kind of have to be in another unit already, like the Ranger regiment or Special Forces or something like that, and then you can request it. It's not something you can request it. At least as far as I know. At least as far as I know. It may be that Way now. I don't think it is though.

[B]

Okay, Mr. Plate 1775. Mike, who is your favorite branch to work for or work with and why is it the Marine Corps?

[C]

Well, honestly, it was the army, but I will say number two was the Marine Corps. And no joke, man, the, the MARSOC dudes. Like, if you want to talk about special operations, man, the MARSOC dudes. And I'm not saying that these dudes were God's gifted special ops. I'm not saying that they have a career. I'm not saying that they did all these amazing things in the gwat. I'm just simply saying the little experience that I had with them, they were professional, they were disciplined, and they were physically fit. Like I said, they don't have that storied career that we can base that off of. But from what I saw training with them, they were physically fit, they were honest, and they were loyal dudes, man.

[A]

They got a bright future.

[C]

Bright future, yeah.

[A]

That's the core as a unit.

[C]

That's the core. That's all you need. And after that you can be successful. And I believe they will be. And they are successful.

[B]

All right, Bobby H4717. Mike, did you work with SF Jed Burrs and thoughts on G Squadrons, Black Squadron and tfo?

[C]

No, I never worked with the Jedburgh's guys. I do know guys that are there and I've talked to them and I know their capabilities as well. And their capabilities are similar to that that we had in RC actually, but they're different. They just are not as tasked as much.

[A]

I guess I could say they're not. And, but I tell you, I did get to work with those guys. They're. They're really talented. The Jedburghs are talented. They're just. Just not tasked. And. And they're not. They're not going to be. Yeah, unfortunately, yeah.

[B]

All right, big bar, 405amazing messages in all of your podcasts and lives. Finally catching my first live and appreciate all you do. True heroes.

[A]

Nice. Thank you, Big Bar.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

All right, so last one we got here is J. All right, Pruneda 12America's AR markets always nutting over brands like HK Knights, LMT. But do tier one guys really care about the brand of rifles you carry while you're. While you were in and has it changed since you've got out?

[C]

I'll tell you this. Let me answer this first. Yeah, I'll tell you, a tier one guy could care less what the brand is as long as it operates properly. Yep, that's all that matters. It needs to work properly. And that's it.

[A]

That's the answer I could give two craps about and I would know like what, what rifles were. We're gonna get down selected. I trusted the process and I trusted our guys were going to pick the ones that worked. And I didn't care which one won as long as the best one won. I didn't, I never cared about the name brand of it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's, and that's pretty much carried over to, to post career. Yeah. My, my tier one gun hasn't. Hasn't given me a single problem, nor will it. So why. And now that I gotta pay for my own guns, why would I spend $5,000 on a gun that runs the same as that one?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just doesn't make sense.

[C]

Oh, I spent all this money on a gun that runs like crap.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I mean? Like now that I have to buy

[A]

it and I've seen problems with big dame guns both in, in the unit and outside the unit. They got, they didn't make the, the final selection for a reason. And so there's, there's, there's. The gun industry's funny like that.

[C]

Yeah. Just because it's a big name doesn't mean their stuff is the best in that category. Specifically, whether it be a pistol, ar. Whatever it is in that category doesn't mean they're the best.

[A]

Unless we're talking about a Glock pistol. Yeah. If Typhoon came up with a good. What's that?

[C]

I said I will say that with you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

If High Point came up with a good gun, you'd like it.

[A]

If they came up with a good gun. Yeah. If it performed. I don't care what the name is.

[B]

They all perform.

[C]

I'm telling you. Only Glocks perform. Only, Only Glocks perform.

[A]

Glocks perform. That's.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Did we make it?

[B]

That would be all of them.

[A]

All right, this is the time of the night simple man is going to win it to take us to take us home. And we're gonna hang out in the regular chat, if you will.

[C]

Ain't nothing but a simple man.

[A]

All right, see we got here. Thank you, Joe, for saying that. I'm the worst at saying it just sounds so cliche to say like and subscribe. But it does, does help. The channel does. I should say it more often, but appreciate you guys doing it for me so I don't have to do it.

[C]

I know what you mean. I'll say like and subscribe Even though I'm not a member of this channel. Well, I am now.

[A]

There you are now. And you're an affiliate. Hey, and about the Jesuo. I just got your DM about hk. HKIA on the. That you. You commented on the live. I saw it come across my phone, so I'm on it. Hey, this. Let's get to the important questions. Mike, what flip flops are you wearing?

[C]

These are rainbows.

[A]

Rainbow? Yeah, yeah.

[C]

People selling dope. I take a big tall tree in a short piece of rope.

[A]

Mike, what's your EDC firearm buddy?

[C]

A Glock 19.

[A]

And he's correct. Oh, gosh. Chandler Crump, you watch your filthy mouth. He said Roll Tide. He knows I'm a gator.

[B]

I'm actually.

[C]

I would be an Auburn fan, but I'm not a. I'm not a sports fan anymore. I'm a fan of the Most high. God.

[A]

I'm gonna toss you this softball by Devin i4z or maybe 14z. Ranger School or Sapper school?

[C]

I've never been to staffer school. I can't say. But Ranger school sucks. I do know that.

[A]

He knows that for a fact.

[C]

Here, we gotta.

[B]

We got a late super chat here.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Send it.

[B]

Good night, everyone. One last question. Have either you had any experience with Caniks handguns? If so, what do you think?

[C]

I have not. I've heard they're good, though. I've heard they're really good, but I've never shot one. Not even slightly. How about you?

[A]

No. Yeah, I know of them, but never even held one.

[C]

Yeah, me either.

[A]

Jared Rosen, That's a good question. Do Rangers make the best CAG operators?

[C]

That's a good question. For you.

[A]

It doesn't matter what unit you came from. It's. It's the person over the unit. Yeah, we've had great Green Berets in the unit. We've had great Rangers in the unit. We've had had Bad Green Brazen Unit and bad Range in the unit. It's who you are as a man that makes you not the other way around.

[C]

Good point. It is. It's all about the character of the individual. That's an individual selection.

[A]

Mike, you and Britt are both wrong. Go Tigers. Join the bandwagon. Never. Never. Gooch a Parmesan. Damn. I'm just now getting off work and tuning in. Better late than never. The good news is you can rewind it and watch it. It'll still be here.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Jared Rosen, Ranger. I barely know her. Okay. All right. Bobby H. Coming in with A late one. Both of you, thoughts on ground branch?

[C]

Hey, I'll say that I, I actually that's where I planned to work when I retired.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it ended up not panning out that way. But those dudes are. They're good dudes too, man. They're guys just like us.

[A]

You know what you say in the recording, when I was. I think I was talking about R. RD now when they're starting to blend, I think it was during the recording. And I think he said, well, there's a mystique about a unit. It kind of makes it like bigger,

[C]

more illustrious, I guess if people want to go to it more.

[A]

And I think that's. And this isn't me like talking bad about Grand Ground Bridge, but I think what happens is there's not a lot of information out there about ground branch. So it just kind of gets mystified

[C]

and turns into elite unit. It's like it's above Delta Force. It's above SEAL team.

[A]

It's not.

[C]

These are old guys. They're guys like Brent and I. No joke. Like, no joke for the guys out there. Like, like, like ground branches. Guys like Brent and I, like our age, former operators who did a career in Delta Force or Ranger regiment who are now working for the agency and

[A]

ironically enough, and we're working for the agency. Like Green Berets.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Their mission set is more. It is like Green Berets.

[C]

It really is.

[A]

And with even less assets and resources at times.

[C]

You're right.

[A]

But. But they're going to pay you good for it to make.

[C]

Oh, you get paid?

[A]

Yeah, they'll pay you.

[C]

You get paid good.

[A]

All right, guys, that is the show. We gotta get out of here. But if you missed it or tune in late, don't worry, it'll be up here later. Mike, thanks so much. Thank you so much for, for joining us both. We'll drop his. His episode on Monday, but before we close this thing out, let's grow around the room. Magnet, what do you got? All right, guys, if you guys wanted one of those hot dog shirts, they

[C]

are live on the website now.

[A]

So you guys go to linearms USA.com

[C]

and they are on the website.

[A]

Finally. You can buy stuff off my website now. All right, that's a. That's a huge one. Finally, Cam, you're part of the show. Get in there. You have a last word.

[B]

What's up, people? I appreciate, you know, the patience with my first live here running the show, but it was a blast. I hope you guys had a blast. Make sure you, like, make sure you subscribe and keep tuning in. Keep tuning in.

[A]

We had zero technical errors. You know that. We have no. We didn't ask you to do a whole lot back there, but at the end of the day, you performed. I appreciate that.

[B]

I appreciate you, Mike.

[A]

What do you got, man?

[C]

It was good, man. Thanks for having me. I had a blast. It was good hanging out with you guys, and I look forward to, like, hanging out with you guys more in the future, man.

[A]

You are welcome back anytime. Anytime. You are welcome back. And something tells me we'll. We'll be seeing each other again for. For something. One. For one thing or another.

[C]

Yeah, Dude.

[A]

Guys, we have another live right behind this next Thursday night. I think we have another one right behind that next Thursday night as well. So stick around, Keep the live growing. Thank you guys so much for being a part of this community and being who you guys are. You guys keep it professional in there. You guys keep it funny. You keep it entertaining. You have no idea how grateful I am for you guys and your support. You guys make it easy to do this. See you next Thursday.