Tier1 Podcast Live | Fred Baker | Air Force Tier1 CCT and Joint Special Operations

Summary

Tier 1 Podcast Live | Fred Baker: Air Force Tier 1 CCT and Joint Special Operations

Host: Brent Tucker
Guest: Fred Baker (Air Force Tier 1 CCT)
Aired: December 12, 2025

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Overview

In this highly engaging live episode, Brent Tucker is joined by Fred Baker, an Air Force CCT (Combat Controller) and seasoned Tier 1 special operator. The conversation explores the state of military and political integrity, recent legal drama among special operations alumni, leadership, culture in elite teams, and Fred’s unique insights on everything from gear selection to the future of AI. Notably, they dissect recent controversies involving high-profile veterans, the challenge of public service optics, military history, wild internet rumors (giants in Afghanistan, UFOs), and the tough realities of both service and American civic life. The episode is energetic, unfiltered, humorous, and thought-provoking, tailored perfectly for a community that values authenticity and the after-action review mindset.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Kicking Off: Current Special Operations News & Lawsuits

(00:00–21:24)

• Discussion on Lawsuits in the Veteran Community:
  The show opens with a deep dive into a public spat between Sean Ryan (former SEAL, host of the Sean Ryan Show) and Congressman Dan Crenshaw.

  • Sean Ryan is facing a defamation threat from Crenshaw, who took issue with comments about his finances and a message referencing “my boys at 6” (SEAL Team 6/DEVGRU).
  • Ryan refuses to apologize or remove content, insisting on the public's right to scrutinize elected officials.
  • Brent: “Dan, you're a sitting congressman. When are you going to start acting like it?... You're a public servant.” (13:56)
  • Fred (on public scrutiny): “You work for me.” (13:56)

• Critique of SEAL Public Image and Lawsuits:

  • The crew poke fun at the apparent litigious trend among some SEALs (Rob O’Neill’s suit for defamation is also mentioned).
  • “That’s fratricide... SEAL on SEAL violence going on.” (18:00)
  • Fred reflects on older-school values: “My dad always taught me... handle my problems like a man and, like, I'm not going to sue anybody.” (19:51)

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2. Leadership, Public Service & The Optics of Wealth

(21:24–26:41)

• On Wealth and Political Service:

  • Dissecting the optics of Crenshaw’s lavish party headlined by DJ Steve Aoki—questioning how career politicians on $174k salaries afford “rockstar” lifestyles and why public servants should stay grounded.
  • Brent: “I don't want a cool congressman. I want a congressman that's really smart, understands his environment, and has the courage to vote correctly...” (15:14)

• “Counting Coup”—Fred’s Business Name & Military Heritage

  • Fred explains the origin of his company name, rooted in Native American warrior tradition of earning honor by touching enemies and escaping unharmed—directly relating this to after-action reviews and the passing on of lessons learned.
  • “Counting coup means you’re going to the enemy and you're just touching them... and escaping... and that was a sign of great honor among mostly the Western Plains Indians.” (21:47)

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3. Democracy, Voting, and Socratic Skepticism

(26:41–35:30)

• Who Should Vote?

  • Extended banter on the idea that voting is not (and perhaps should not be) an unconditional birthright:
    • Brent references Socrates’ view that democracy should be a skilled endeavor for the informed, not merely a “right.”
    • “Anything that's special, you don't give away... Socrates... believed it [voting] was a skill that required wisdom and education, not a right by birth.” (28:23)
    • Risks discussed: limiting suffrage vs. the “snake oil salesmen” problem of demagoguery.

• Contemporary Parallels:

  • The hosts connect this to the prevalence of “snake oil salesmen” in modern American politics, and the challenge of uninformed voting.

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4. Geopolitics: Venezuela, Russia, and ‘Near Peer’ Myths

(38:14–53:38)

• Venezuela Oil Tanker Seizure:

  • The U.S. Coast Guard’s dramatic seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker carrying sanctioned oil becomes a springboard for geopolitics.
    • “We gained a ship, you lost a ship... if you're breaking sanctions... then what's the point of sanctions if you do nothing?” (43:17)
    • Fred: “We told everyone what we’re going to do. Venezuela’s not doing the right thing... you’re going to get punished.” (41:44)

• On Trump’s Foreign Policy and Deters War:

  • Praising the US’s clear signaling and resolve as mechanisms to avoid broader conflict.

• Russia & China: Debunking the Near Peer Threat:

  • Fred and Brent, drawing on combat, intelligence, and technology experience, mock the notion that China or Russia are actual near peers in military capacity.
    • Fred: “Numbers, which would come to China. As far as technology, tactics, experience—all those things, there is no near peer.” (47:59)
    • Brent’s anecdote about Chinese “armed ISR” demo failures: “They never hit the car in the middle of the field… meanwhile, we’re over there in Iraq knocking out Iranian generals in a 4-car convoy, dropping hellfires right in the passenger seat.” (50:29)
  • Sober assessment: If we ever need to fight, we’ll train as if it’s possible, but reality says otherwise.

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5. Mission Culture, Gear, and After-Action Mindset

(66:19–79:48)

• Debriefing a Hostage Rescue Video:

  • Brent and Fred break down a viral police sniper video—praise the officer’s performance but ruthlessly dissect possible pitfalls, discussing why “almost as good” isn’t good enough in high-risk work.
    • “Just because a bad tactic works, it makes you go home going 'well, this tactic works.' Well, no, it worked then because you weren’t opposed.” (68:19)

• After Action Culture:

  • Both emphasize brutal self-critique after every mission:
    • Brent: “Did we ever talk about how great we were?... No. What's the only thing we talked about? Who messed up what.” (78:06)
    • Fred: “I want you to be the best, not just so you can save your life, but so you can save my life as well.” (78:58)
    • The culture of positive, necessary, and sometimes “not forgiving” criticism.

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6. Fred Baker on UFOs, Giants, and Special Ops Lore

(80:28–84:12)

• On “Recovery Missions”, UFOs, & Conspiracies:
  • Fred deadpans that he’s never recovered a UFO nor found the fabled “red-headed giants” of Afghanistan, though he affirms seeing “strange things” in his time.
    • “I am not a believer. I am not a skeptic. I'm a firm believer that if you categorize yourself... then you're forced to live within that realm.” (81:19)
  • The crew share a laugh about wild war zone rumors.

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7. Advice for Aspiring Special Operators

(102:28–105:32)

• Fred’s Path to CCT and Advice for the Young:
  • "First step…this is it. This is the only thing I’m going to do. There’s no plan B." (104:41)
  • Emphasizes mental commitment, top physical fitness, but downplays ‘gaming’ selection—focus on preparation, not shortcuts.
  • Advice is equally applicable to anyone facing an elite, high consequence goal.

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8. Culture, Technology, & AI: The Next Leap?

(110:11–115:43)

• How Far Can Tech Go?
  • Brent and Fred riff on the pace of human and AI-driven technological progress.
    • “Batteries never get better. We're still carrying these big, stupid batteries.” (111:25)
    • “Maybe our purpose is to create AI, and AI does its thing, maybe becomes self aware... but that's the next step.” (111:49)
  • Drew recites an ancient Biblical prophecy about knowledge exploding at the end times, drawing a parallel to today’s progress.

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9. Society, Identity, and Political Discourse in Modern America

(135:35–155:58)

• Viral Clip: “Cancel Christmas”—Radical Protest Culture Critiqued:

  • The crew lampoon a New York protest leader trying to “cancel Christmas,” drawing comparisons to hypocrisy around Ramadan/Islam and political activism.
    • “I wonder if we canceled Ramadan, how awesome that would be for them.” (137:58)

• Love is Blind Reality TV—Real World Divides:

  • Brent relays (humorously, self-consciously) how reality TV contestants are more likely to reject partners for political views or lack of ‘wokeness’ than for compatibility, loyalty, or love itself.
    • “It was just all liberal women... The men weren't even anti-anything. They just didn’t care.” (148:23)
    • Big laugh: “There’s no world... where a man looks at a girl and says, ‘Hey, you're too liberal and you have no growth.’” (149:26)
  • Fred shares stories about couples making it through political differences “somehow,” pointing to the lost value of in-person dialogue over digital feuding.

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10. Broader Themes / Notable Quotes

• On Team & Nation:

  • “A good culture is so hard to get and… if you have a good culture, it’s because there were really good dudes that fought for a really hard time to make sure… it has good culture. And it's why you have to protect it at all costs.” (79:18)

• On the SOF Mindset:

  • “It’s not to say you can’t do it. You just have to work five times, ten times harder, whatever it is. But you do have the mental advantage... you are seasoned.” (88:41)

• On CCT as Force Multiplier:

  • “No person on the battlefield in history can bring more power, fusing the air and the men on the ground, than a CCT.” –Dan Schilling (quoted by David Hookstead) (126:08)

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11. Super Chats, Humor, and Community Q&A

(Throughout, esp. 21:24–164:48)

• Banter on everything from “Kodiak bear vs Siberian tiger” (team split: Fred – tiger; Brent – bear), to best barrel lengths (“Age of the musket is kind of gone…” – Fred), to favorite dream cars (Fred: “old Willys Jeep”; Brent: “new C8 Corvette”), to hilarious hypotheticals about racing covered in coconut oil vs motor oil.
• Audience engagement and inside jokes maintain a sense of brotherhood.

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes (w/ Timestamps)

• “He thought a legal threat would make me back down… but unfortunately, Dan, you’re wrong. I’m a veteran. I’ve been in combat, too…” – Sean Ryan clip, (08:43)
• “Counting coup means you’re gonna go to the enemy, touch them and return. That came into training... passing on stories.” – Fred (21:47)
• “I just don't get it... Not enough people are getting punched in the face anymore.” – Fred (143:13)
• “Every mission... we never talk about how good we were. We talk about who messed up what.” – Brent, (78:06)

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Conclusion / Takeaways

• This episode blends biting humor, credible critique, and hard-won wisdom, offering insight into both special operations reality and the challenges of civic and cultural life.
• Key running themes: integrity, the importance of brutal self-assessment, skepticism of easy answers, and a defense of traditional leadership values—whether on the battlefield or in the halls of Congress.

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Next Episode Tease:
Chris Blau from 1911 Syndicate joins Tier 1 Podcast Live next Thursday!

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:49] Lawsuit explanation (Sean Ryan video)
• [13:56] “You work for me.” — On public accountability
• [21:47] Counting coup/after-action culture
• [43:17] Venezuelan oil tanker/US sanctions rationale
• [50:29] China’s failed ISR demo anecdote
• [66:19] Police sniper video breakdown
• [79:18] On protecting team culture
• [104:41] Fred's advice for aspiring SOF operatives
• [111:49] AI: next step for human advancement
• [126:08] CCT’s unique battlefield power

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Find & Follow:

• Brent Tucker: @tier1podcast
• Fred Baker: @counting_coup_tactical

(For more, tune in every Thursday or explore the podcast archive.)

Transcript

[A]

This time, two times a charm and now it's 801. You. If we have got it on. On the. On the first one, you'd have been on time. We'll get there. It's okay. Life.

[B]

My bad.

[A]

Life. And death is not on the line this time.

[B]

Not this time.

[A]

Welcome back to another episode of the Tier One Podcast Live. We got Uncle Fred with us. We resident alien expert and Air Force Tier one veteran. We got Drew behind the controls, ensuring that we're late and never completely smooth. But that's okay. That's somehow exactly what I hire him for. And we got the crew on the couch. Welcome to the show. Let's do it. For the special forces rescue. Welcome to the tier one podcast. This is amazing. Dude, Check this out. Here we go. You know, we're supposed to do, I promise, one live a month. And we're not doing real good at that. And I'm. I'm happy about that. One live a month is. Is not enough. This month we did the first Thursday night we had Mike Sorelli on. We got back to back Tier one guys. Which is. Which is awesome. And next Thursday we're gonna do a live as well. We got Chris Blau from 1911 Syndicate gonna be in town. Come on the show. Drew, bring up the ad read for me. Oh. When ready for that one. Hey. This episode is brought to you by Elevated Silence. Elevated Silence builds phenomenal products that make life more enjoyable for everyone. Their engineers and product development team work with the science of silence. They have cans from everything from 300 Norma 20 to a 22 short. Each is finished with a proprietary coating that prevents carbon buildup inside the suppressor.22s are the exception. They offer every mounting option you could want. The Dura HD556 gives minimal blowback while still delivering top noise reduction. And their new 30 cal line and 3D printed titanium is actually about to launch next week. They're going to come in and we're going to do a product review on it. Go to the range. I'm really looking forward to that. So Elevated Silence just wants to make the world a quieter place. Go to elevatedsilence.com and use promo code tier1 for 15% off. The. What's in the news? What's in the news? Are more people getting sued or is it just me?

[C]

I think it's just you for.

[A]

It was just me for a little bit.

[C]

I might about to get sued here in a minute.

[A]

Well, chances are if you do, it'll be by Navy Seal. Cuz right now they're two for two. Unfortunately, Sean Ryan's getting a piece of this action. He just, he just dropped this. Let's, let's see exactly who's suing Shawn Ryan and why. Let's talk about it.

[D]

To address something directly with all of you who've supported this show and made it what it is. Today on December 9, 2025, I received a legal demand letter from from lawyers representing Congressman Dan Crenshaw. They are threatening to sue me for defamation because of comments I made on my podcast about a message that he sent me.

[A]

It must be they want me to.

[D]

Remove content, issue a public apology, want it removed as well and stop talking about him. I'm not going to do any of that.

[A]

Good for you.

[D]

Let me give you full context for you so you can judge for yourself what I originally said. A while back, I commented on my show about Congressman Crenshaw throwing an extremely expensive party and the fact that he seems to have become quite wealthy during his time in Congress. I raised questions about how a congressman making $174,000 a year can afford that kind of a lifestyle.

[A]

That's a cringe.

[D]

These are legitimate questions. And to be honest, I didn't even mention Dan Crenshaw's name in that initial conversation.

[A]

Didn't even mention his name.

[D]

I just brought up the fact that he was having Steve Aoki, a major DJ spin at his party.

[A]

I doubt Steve Aoki did it for sure.

[D]

Let's fast forward a couple years and they got Steve Aoki DJing their 40th birthday party. How does that happen?

[A]

I don't have firsthand experience in this. I have often questioned the same thing.

[D]

These are legitimate questions.

[A]

I do.

[D]

Multiple news outlets have reported on concerns about congressional insider trading and members of Congress, including Congressman Crenshaw, actively trading stocks while having access to non public information that affects those very stocks.

[A]

We should.

[D]

I'm not the only person asking these questions, but apparently I'm the one that got under Dan's skin. After I made those comments, Congressman Crenshaw sent me an Instagram message. I'm going to publish the actual screenshot so you can see for yourself. Right here. Here's what it says. Hey Sean, you have the ability to contact your fellow team guy if you've got a problem with me or have questions about how I'm getting rich. Some of my boys at 6 told me about your indirect swipe at me. From the comment you made, it sounds like you have some beliefs that are based on trendy narratives instead of facts.

[A]

Some of my boys now, let me.

[D]

Be clear about what I saw when I read that message. A sitting United States Congressman, who happens to be a former Navy SEAL, sent me a message saying, my boys at 6 told me about my criticism of him. My boys at six. That means SEAL Team 6 Development Group, the most elite special operations unit in the United States military in arguably the world. When I received that message, in the context of me criticizing him, I interpreted it as threatening. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe he just meant that some guys he used to work with told him about my comments and he wanted to have a friendly chat. But that's not how it read to me, and I said so on my podcast. Now, here's a clip of Congressman Dan Crenshaw literally saying, if he ever meets Tucker Carlson, he will kill him.

[A]

I love that. Have you ever met. That's a sitting congressman.

[D]

So I'm just curious, what would you think if Congressman Dan Crenshaw sent you a message saying his Boys at six after he threatened to kill Tucker Carlson? Now, his lawyers are claiming that my interpretation of his message is defamation. They say I accused him of threatening me with assault, which is a crime, and that I need to publicly apologize and remove the content from my show. Here's my response.

[C]

No.

[D]

I'm publishing their full demand letter along with my lawyer's response so that you can read both and decide for yourself whether my interpretation was unreasonable. This isn't really about whether I misunderstood a message. This is about whether a sitting member of Congress can use the threat of an expensive litigation to silence criticism.

[A]

Exactly.

[D]

I asked questions about Congressman Crenshaw's wealth. Those questions are fair game, legitimate. He is a public official. He makes decisions that affect all of us. He trades stocks while having access to classified and non public information. The public has a right to ask how he's getting rich while he's in office. Instead of answering those questions, he sent me a message that referenced Seal Team 6. And when I said that message felt threatening, he lawyered up and demanded I apologize and shut up. And I won't. Now, what's going to happen next? If Congressman Crenshaw wants to sue me, he can. My lawyers are ready. And if he does, we're going to use the discovery process to get answers to all the questions. I originally asked questions about his finances and how he affords the lifestyle he's living on a congressional salary. I suspect that's the last thing Dan actually wants. But here's what I think is really going on. Congressman Dan thought he could intimidate me into silence. He thought A legal threat would make me back down. But unfortunately, Dan, you're wrong. I'm a veteran. I've been in combat, too. I've faced actual threats. A demand letter from a D.C. law firm unfortunately does not scare me. So let me clarify my position for the record. Congressman Crenshaw sent me a message that. That said My boys at 6 told me about my criticism of him. I interpreted that is threatening. Maybe he didn't intend it that way. Maybe he's just really bad at communication. But when a congressman invokes elite special operations forces into a message to someone who's criticizing him, that person is allowed to find it threatening. And you know what? I still want answers to my original questions. How is Congressman Crenshaw accumulated significant wealth while serving in Congress? What stocks has he traded and when? Did he have access to non public information that affected those trades? How did he afford that expensive party? These are questions every American should be asking about every member of Congress. The fact that Congressman Crenshaw's response is to threaten litigation rather than provide answers tells you everything you need to know. To my audience, I'm publishing everything. The original message, the demand letter, my lawyer's response. Because I believe in transparency, man, you've made this show what it is. You deserve to see all the facts and make your own judgment. If you think I misinterpreted the message, that's fine. Reasonable people can disagree. But I don't think my interpretation was unreasonable. And I'm certainly not going to apologize for asking legitimate questions about a public official's finances. To Congressman Crenshaw. Sir, if you want to clarify what you meant by my boys at six, you're welcome to do so. If you want to answer your questions about your wealth accumulation and your stock trading, I'll give you air time to do it. But if you think you're going to silence me with legal threats, you've badly miscalculated. I'm not going anywhere and neither are the questions.

[C]

Thank you, Dan.

[D]

I'm sure we'll talk soon. I want to address something directly with all of you.

[A]

I love the first comment up there is Eddie Gallagher saying Dan Crenshaw is weak sauce. Big fan of Eddie Gallagher. Right off the bat, Eddie Gallagher and Dan Crenshaw don't get along. So it's pretty easy to tell who. Who I. Who you are, who your friends are. If Eddie Gallagher is has a major problem with you, then that probably says something right underneath that is Nick with Liberty Defense. He's another guy. That's one of our Friends, Eddie goes. Is he buddies with Rob o'? Neal? Right underneath it in the, in the comment section. All right, let's get into this. Drew, A couple things just jump out at me right off the bat. Dan, you're a sitting congressman. You're sitting congressman. When are you going to start acting like it? Someone questioning about how you spend your money and how you gather wealth. That doesn't need to be private conversations. I mean, I hate to say it. This isn't a private matter. You're a public figure. You're a public. And even you're a public servant. Not just a public figure. You're a public servant.

[C]

You work for me.

[A]

That's right. So if he asks questions, rather than suing him, you would probably be an easier answer.

[C]

Answer the question right.

[A]

If you just answered the question. Because let me tell you, throwing that massive party and having Steve Aoki, it's not a good look. I don't care how you got your money and I don't care how you can afford it, but whoever is your PR person, fire them immediately. Whoever told you is a good idea to have fire coming from your fingertips and, and have a DJ at your Steve Aoki at your birthday party, because everything is. Especially when you're a public servant. It's not a good look. It's not a good look how, how you present yourself and how you, how you spend your money, regardless of how you earned it. It's just the perception of it is bad. Don't you think?

[C]

As a public figure or as a congressman, whatever. You're supposed to be dead. Like you're not.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Not supposed to be my older brother, right. You're supposed to be dead.

[A]

Right.

[C]

You're supposed to be the guy that has all the answers and I look up to. And I would never dare cross them because I appreciate them so much. And you're acting like that. That is crazy.

[A]

I don't want a cool congressman. I don't. I don't want a cool congressman. I want a congressman that's really smart, understands his environment, and has the courage to vote correctly for this America's agenda to be first. I don't want a cool congressman. I don't. It's not a. It's not a popularity contest, although unfortunately, to some degree it's turned into one. And that's kind of the, the problem with, with our system among. Amongst many. But it's just, it's absolutely ridiculous. And I love how, how Sean handled this. I've, I've been, I've, I've Softly critiqued Sean. The past about not answering, you know, not asking a, a hard question to people. And I get that. That's, I always say that not as, not really in malice because those things I've looked into very deeply, you know, and he has it like they're just a guest on his show. So I grade it on a curve and I understand that. I also understand, like, it's just not ideal to have someone on your show and then ask them really hard or what would be perceived as. A jerk, you know, that's awful. Yeah. Why'd you ask me a hostile question like that? So I, I, I don't, I don't really judge Sean and, and that in that aspect. But to have him come out like this aggressive and in the way he did. Yeah, the right on Sean, that's, that's. I want to see more of that. Sean, you could tell he had to.

[C]

Have it a written statement down because you could see like, oh, he was coming through and he, he pulled himself back and stayed composed and got his statement out. But, you know, he really wanted to say what was really on his mind and. Yeah, appreciate that, Sean. Keeping your together.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. And he did it. And, and he did do it professionally. I think he did it very. He didn't call him names. He did very professionally. And this. And Sean has the resources.

[C]

He has a very odd choice.

[A]

Very odd choice to punch down on because you don't really punch it down necessari. So take this, take this. A court. You're a public figure. It will go nowhere. And then you will have to pay all of Sean's lawyer. He will counter sue you or should, and you'll end up paying for his lawyers and his time if, if he so chooses, and I hope he does, because you deserve it.

[C]

It'll expand the studio and I mean, it'll be known as the Crenshaw Studio.

[A]

For sure.

[C]

And I don't know.

[A]

So that's, that's two Navy seals in as many months that have put out defamation laws.

[C]

This one's SEAL on seal, and that one's.

[A]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's fratricide.

[C]

Right.

[A]

There's some SEAL on SEAL violence going on. And I'm sure, obviously you're talking about it. You're, you're well aware of, of Rob's 25 million lawsuit against me. Where, that one.

[C]

Where are you keeping money? Because I'm here right now.

[A]

It's all under this desk. Yeah, it's all on this desk.

[C]

25 million?

[A]

Yeah. I Don't want to put you on the spot, but I'm going to the. You ever work with the guys from the beach?

[C]

Yes, I have.

[A]

Did you ever hear a story that Rob o' Neill was the only guy in the room and him and himself took care of the world's number one terrorist?

[C]

No. There is a story going around, and it's the. It's the one that we're very familiar with.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's not the one that. That Rob has stated. All right, I will give him this. Yeah, maybe he was the last one that shot him, and maybe he did die and he's the one that killed him. I'll grant him that. That's a possibility if that's a story.

[A]

If, unfortunately, if that's the story he told, he'd have never been on an. On. On. On the other. On the receiving end of one of my podcasts. But his story is he was the first, the second, and the last to do it. I actually did that. You fell right into my trap. You are now going to be the third person on a lawsuit. So it's coming. I hope you're ready. I.

[C]

That's not my claim. That is what I heard.

[A]

I was not there, and I said the same thing. Did. Did matter. He'll.

[C]

I guess not.

[A]

He'll sue. He'll sue you anyway. But I just thought they were tougher than that, and traditionally they are. That's not a hit on Navy SEALs. Traditionally, they are. This isn't. We're not talking about the cream of the crop from that community, unfortunately.

[C]

Yeah. And maybe this is a generational thing or whatever, but my dad always taught me, like, specifically with, like, suing people. He said he would never do that. Said he would handle it like a man. And this isn't me degrading anyone else is doing this. It's just him telling me that, like, I handle my problems like a man and, like, I'm not going to sue anybody. And so I've always had that in my mind. I've never considered suing anybody. None of that.

[A]

Yeah, that's fun. Both these people. Rob could have come on my podcast anytime and said something differently to me. And guess what? Dan Crenshaw can go on Sean Ryan's. At any point, he has an open invitation, and neither one will set the record straight.

[C]

Just speak out loud. I mean, we can't. We can't back it out. We weren't there, so we have no idea. But just come on and say it.

[A]

The let's address. We'll go to the one of the super chats we go into our. Our next. Our next subject. We weren't, we weren't really planning on opening on up on the live with that until. Till Sean text me about five minutes before we started conveniently. And I saw that, I said, you know what, switch it all up. We're we're going to open up with this thing. So he kind thanks Sean for throwing the whole life for a loop. I don't go messing with your show, Sean don't go messing with mine. The last second. But glad to do it. Glad he did. Glad to defend Sean on this. And I'm not, I'm not defending Sean, just blind. I'm defending what's right and Sean is in the right on this.

[B]

I just didn't know congress people had that much podcast time, you know. Anyway, all right, Mr. Plight, thank you, brother Fred. Great to see you on the podcast. What was the reasoning behind the counting coup name? I didn't know about it until I saw your company name. I'd love to see more videos, like your videos from Spiritus.

[C]

Yeah. So the counting Q thing came from me and my assistant team leader when we were trying to figure out team patch team concept. Thing in the mission set that we were looking at was kind of a. I don't know how to put it, kind of a first strike kind of a tap. You know, accounting coup means you're going to the enemy and you're just touching them. You're not necessarily drawing blood or killing, but you're just touching them and escaping. And that was a sign of great honor amongst mostly the Western Plains Indians, although all of them had some kind of sort arrangement that was just like that. So counting coup was being able to go to your enemy, touch them and return. And there's different forms of it as well as like capturing somebody there is actually drawing blood if you do whatever. So the mission set that we were looking into kind of related to that. And so counting coup came from that. And with that though, after they had a battle, they would all gather around and basically do an after action and talk about who counted coup and who did what. And that came into like the training portion when I got out. It's like I wanted to pass on stories and knowledge of whatever people wanted to know about. So.

[B]

All right, next one is Wiley Coyote, also known as for I got a brain.

[A]

What you got?

[B]

Brain? Flatulence.

[A]

Flatulence.

[B]

That gummet I got. I will. I haven't drank enough monster yet.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

With apologies to Chappelle and Rick James F. Your couch, Dan.

[A]

I got better sense of putting my shoes up on a man's couch. Yeah, I put my shoes up on his couch.

[C]

They buy another one.

[B]

All right. Precision with purpose. We have all these congressmen who are grown children. There needs to be a better way. People like that are why our country is going down the Scheider. Thank the Lord we have tier one to show us the truth.

[A]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[B]

Corn pop. A2.

[A]

Corn pop.

[B]

A while back, I saw a video of Crenshaw kicking a reporter's foot. I told me everything I needed to know about him.

[A]

I'd like to see that.

[C]

That's what my daughter does.

[B]

Don't ask me that question's foot.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't always dislike Dan Crenshaw. Like, I didn't like when he first came on the scene. He said some really good things, and I'm like, we have. He was a Navy seal special operations veteran. I'm like, we need more of this in Congress. And it doesn't change my viewpoint of that. All the other special operation guys in Congress have been really solid. We just don't need any ones like that.

[C]

Yeah, I don't get it. I was the same way. Cool dude. It fit the profile. Navy SEAL with an eye patch and veteran. I was like, this is going to be legit. And then, I don't know. Fame gets the people, I guess.

[A]

Yeah. What else we got, Drew?

[B]

Let's see. We got Nal Hans, Norwegian, I think. You guys seen lawyer youtuber, Legal bites, breakdown of Robbo Gaylords, lawsuit of Bert Recommended if not Robbie gon be cooked.

[C]

I think I know the guy.

[A]

You know, I. I think I did see. I saw one of them. I'm pretty sure that's who it was. And they. They were. That was.

[C]

It was.

[A]

It was a great breakdown of the lawsuit and how. How weak it was.

[C]

I mean, defamation in itself is pretty.

[A]

Difficult to prove, especially when you're a. A. A public figure. But what's even harder to prove is that you were the only one who shot him when you were the fourth man in the room. That's gonna be a lot harder to prove than defamation. What else?

[B]

Wesley is Wiley Coyote. I do believe our boy Wes Zulu Whiskey. What's up, boys? Sub Zulu, man. Good to see you, Percy. 226 thanks for the love, brother. Your consistency is very calming. Glad to support. And we do try be consistent. That's where we're at. Super chat.

[C]

All right.

[A]

You know, thank you, Percy. I figured we'd talk about this, we're going to go ahead and talk about it now just in case we don't get there. But we talked about this before the episode about these elected officials and, and, and how do we get there? This is going to be, I've said it before, so to people who followed me for a while, this won't be the first time hearing it, but to some people it may be the first time that you hear it, but we're getting bad people in office to some degree.

[B]

We are.

[A]

Yeah. Hear me out. And this, and this is always what kills me. They're like, you know, they can't stand who's, who's in office or how they, well, they didn't just force their way in the office, so to speak. You know how they got there. You voted for them. Somebody voted for these idiots to get in. And if you don't like them, vote them out. They are a, they are a representation and a reflection of America. So if there's, I'm gonna say it pretty brash, but if, but it's true. If you don't like who's represented us, then guess what, maybe we're not, that's a reflection on us.

[C]

Maybe we're not doing our jobs right.

[A]

So I don't think unpopular opinion, I stand by it. I don't think writing should, voting should be a right. I don't think voting should be a birthright. And I know that's something that we've stood on and people get offended when they hear that. So but if you, but if you listen to it logically, one, people get really mad when they, when they hear that because they're really closed minded about it. And I get that. If that's what you've been told your whole life, if you've been told your whole life, voting is a right. Voting is a right. Voting is a right. It's a right. Well then you believe that. But if we really break it down logically, anything that's special, you don't, you don't give away anything that's special. I'm gonna bring up before we get into talking about this, let me tell you what I saw this and it really resonated. Let me tell you what's old known for being pretty wise. Socrates. Let me tell you what Socrates said about voting. Of course everyone knows who Socrates was, if not Google it. I don't have time to tell you who he was, but he was a prominent critic of, of democracy, had significant reservations about the value of universal voting and he believed it was a skill that required wisdom and education, not a right by birth. He did not want to abolish democracy entirely, but argued for a system where only informed and rational individuals participated in governance. And he's, he, he's gone on and on about this. If you're interested, go, go read about it. It's, it'll really, it might change your mind, but it'll definitely give you something to think about. He also, you know, there was one point where he equated it to essentially like navigating a ship. And that's what, you know, that's what this country is. I mean, it is, it is a ship that's going somewhere. And in no, at no time will you just gather the whole crew and say, hey, let's take a vote on how we're going to plot this course. Let's take a vote to see if we're navigating this correctly. No, the only people who get to navigate the ship are people who understand navigation and have a skill to do that.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And that is a good correlation. He, I was, I'm hoping somewhere I can find it here real quick. But, but he basically goes, he continues to go down and say that at some point, if you allow this, everyone to vote. What he was scared of is that the people who had the smoothest tongue and would promise them things would get the vote rather than that, that the, that the masses could be easily swayed by essentially snake oil salesmen. He couldn't be any more.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And that's exactly what's happening today, isn't it?

[C]

Yeah. What's the first thing that happens when said individual gets voted in office? They do none of the things that they promised. Probably because they sat down and they got handed the folder of the real world and they figured out, oh, I can't do any of those things that I promised. Yeah, it's so, so, so true. You got to have some kind of stake in the game if you're going to make decisions on it.

[A]

And it goes back to our founding fathers, who also believe that. And I'm not saying things shouldn't progress to some degree, but our founding fathers used to, you know, they initially said, hey, you have to be a landowner in order to vote. Well, wouldn't be, wouldn't be that far off. How much different would this country be right now if only landowners could still vote? That'd be pretty crazy to think about.

[C]

Yeah. But then when we're talking about id, you have landowner ID cards now, and that's probably racist.

[A]

Something's got to change. So I I don't. There's. But I also know this. Yes. Right off the bat there's, there's a lot of. It is a slippery slope once you start saying who can vote and who cannot vote is. Is not an. An easy task. And it's something that has to be well thought out. But I know this. We giving everyone the right to vote I don't think has really worked out very well for us either.

[C]

No.

[A]

And I think you got to choose one.

[C]

Fortunately, unfortunately, whatever whoever wants to look at, I think we're stuck. Like he can always add. It's really difficult to take away.

[A]

Right. Exactly. Yep. Exactly. Drew, before we go to the next. We got any super chats we can catch up while I. When I get that set up.

[B]

Let's see what we got here. Wade P. Hatchet says, was the 25 million dollar lawsuit what Rob thinks he should have received from the UBL bounty?

[C]

It's. I didn't think about that. I think it was $25 million. Was it really?

[A]

That is.

[C]

He's kind of like Quentin Tarantino is hiding little things in there.

[A]

Because there's. Wow. Well, I'll keep that.

[B]

Well, if that's true, he's suing the wrong people.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[B]

The unfortunate says, why do you offer the opportunity for Rob and Tim to come on your podcast but not Shrek? I may have just missed it. Love the show.

[A]

Then. I mean, that's, that's, that's a fair question. The both of them were dishonest, but neither of them were according to the allegations. So I don't get another lawsuit on me. According to the. I shouldn't say allegate. Well, I guess they were according to the reports of the military themselves when they demoted him and when they stripped his tab is that he had sexually assaulted and verbally assaulted women. And to me, that's just a red line you start. You start treating women like that. I don't want you in my presence. You want to, you want to lie, you can walk that back and you can eventually be a bigger man. Everyone, everyone has a, has a personal line where I'm like, that's, that's just more than, than I want to deal with. And that's my line. Don't you agree I'm interested. You don't do. Do you think there's. There's differences? There's just certain people that. And certain things you can do that differentiate who they are. And John McPhee went, went too far and I have nothing to talk to him about.

[B]

All right. Six is mom. Thank you very much for the love. Holy fook says.

[D]

Hey.

[B]

Sitting down to pee. Man, this water is cold and deep. What's the best gun to hunt Bigfoot with? This is why we like Thursday nights.

[A]

I'm gonna throw that over to you first, Fred, for two reasons. You're a guest. And two. I need more time to think about that.

[C]

No guns. Mitts only. Mitts only.

[A]

He's got big feet.

[C]

We'll do big mitts.

[B]

Do Drew a favor. Shoot him with a camera. Okay. That would be great. A really good one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Blurry crap.

[A]

Yeah, we gotta shoot him with that first. Absolutely. Gosh.

[B]

Oh, man. Not a. Not a University of Utah security camera. Okay. None of that stuff. Let's see. Evers. Forge work says keep killing it. Fellas. Great to see brother Fred on Circle Bar. Drinks on me soon.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

Love. Tom says all shites and giggles until Rob giggles and shites.

[A]

I see what you did there, old man.

[B]

Joke, I guess.

[A]

All right.

[B]

That's not funny. That could really happen tonight. Could.

[A]

I'm just interested. Could. Could someone find out. It'll might be hard to do this. Could someone find out if Rob and Dan are friends? I'll. I'll just say this. It's. That whole crew seems to run in a circle. And what. And kind of what I allude to earlier. Like I know who you are. By. By who you. By who your friends are. You know who sticks up for Rob o'? Neal? Tim Kennedy. You know who stuck up for Tim Kennedy? Rob o'. Neal. Something tells me that those guys are also friendly with. With Dan Crenshaw. Is that correct? Surprise, surprise. Guess who else is friendly with Tim Kennedy.

[B]

Tim Kennedy's mom.

[A]

Okay. True.

[B]

Tell me I'm wrong.

[A]

The Barney Fife of Baghdad himself. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

So what you say? Dakota Myers. Friends with them too. Don't do that to me. Don't do that to me. But yeah, that's you. You're not wrong. So it's. Look. Look at that circle. Look at that circle of grifters. Interesting.

[B]

All right. Six's mom back in again. First it was two bucks. Now it's fifty bucks. So. Oh, thanks, Six's mom. Really appreciate that. Thank you very much. All right.

[A]

We call.

[B]

It really does help.

[C]

Nope.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Tob's in Crenshaw is suing Sean for defamation. Thoughts? All right. We.

[A]

We had our thoughts. You're late to the party. That's okay. Just. I'm glad you're here. To the party.

[B]

That's it just rewind to the beginning. Woodshot25 says, haven't been this pumped about a guest since I had a lady of the night over last month. Okay, Fred, that's high praise, bro.

[C]

I'm pretty good looking.

[A]

That's high praise.

[B]

You're up there with the lady of the night.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Feeling good.

[A]

No one's ever that excited about me.

[B]

All right, there's an oil tanker in the news.

[A]

All right. Yeah, let's get. I'm excited about getting to this one. I've been this excited. Nope, I'll use that one again. All right. Oh, Maduro. What is he up to? Cra. Oh, crazy Venezuela. What are you doing? All right, so, so we, we, we borrowed an oil tanker from, from Venezuela. I don't know if you guys have seen that in the news, but let's read this article and let's dig into this. Maduro fume. The US had committed an act of piracy. While nonchalant, Donald Trump suggested the United States would keep the oil. I love it. In a sword wielding speech after the seizure, Maduro called for Venezuelan to give us a real beating. Go, go ahead and try with that. He thundered. In times like these, we must be like warriors with both eyes peeled. That's ironic. Left you keep talking, that's what your eyes will be is peeled back. Working, producing, building and keeping the country functioning and be prepared to kick in the teeth of the North American empire if necessary. When asked why he ordered the operation, Trump responded coolly. It was seized for very good reason. And when a reporter inquired about the fate of the oil on board, he shrugged. We keep it. I guess so. I love that. I don't know if what, what a difference in, in leadership of sorts of. When I was in Iraq, we had seized a couple oil tankers like, like tankers, like driven like semi oil tankers.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

And we were so scared to ever, like, they, they went to a holding facility on base and they immediately got released as fast as possible back to the oil refinery because we never wanted to be looked at as seizing their oil.

[C]

Right. Classic American move. Yeah, right.

[A]

And even then I was like, well then what are we doing this? I mean, let's at least get some oil out of it, you know, that's ridiculous. So I love that he said that. This, this oil tanker, I believe the oil taker was named the Skipper. Ironically enough, it's a Venezuelan oil tanker that's been designated as moving around sanctioned oil throughout the world. They were caught by having a Guyana flag on it. That, and there as A, As a flag vessel. And anyone who's familiar with the ship procedures, you, you don't, you don't, you don't do that. Yeah, that's a, that's a big warning right there. And the Coast Guard, of all people, the Coast Guard went in there. It's a cool video of it. They get there on a, on a Blackhawk fast rope in and, and take it. About $70 million, I believe, worth of oil. It's holding 1.1 million barrels of oil. So actually maybe more than.

[C]

Yeah, it should be way more than that.

[A]

Yeah, it was. The elite troops from the Marine Security Response Teams tactile unit within the US Coast Guard. What do you think about this? We. Are, we, Are we beating up on Venezuela for, for no, for no good reason, or are you a fan of this? What's your thought?

[C]

If you talk to the right folks, you have a way to fund your lawsuit now. $70 million. No, man. We told everyone what we're going to do. Venezuela is not doing the right thing when it comes to protecting our, our homeland. And if they're doing illegal things, hey, I'm tired of, I'm tired of this. Like, we need to be the nice guy again. I lean towards dad, you know, Dad's very stern. He's very kind. But you do the wrong things, he's going to be stern. You're going to get punished. Well, guess what? You're going to get. You're going to get punished now. So don't do illegal, don't with our country, and maybe these things won't happen.

[A]

I've been a little bit, I wouldn't say harsh, but slightly skeptical on, on the Venezuelan things as, as, as we should, you know, in any time our country is doing something offensive and something that might get us into war, we should look into it. We should have questions and we should get, get answers, and we should get good answers to those questions. The. I'm not. I was a little bit more skeptical about, you know, hitting the, the drug boats because if it's all about drugs. Well, I'm not saying Venezuela is a, a good country, but they're, they're not necessarily our drug problem. So if that's your answer, I would like a better answer than that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But when it comes to this, if it's, if it's, if they're breaking the sanctions that they have on them, well, if you're not going to do anything about it, well, then why, then what's the point of sanctions? And what's the point of then Anytime you sanction someone, you, your, your word loses its value. So of all things, it's different. So this I am a big fan of. Like I said, or else, or else our words mean nothing. And that's the, The United States slap sanctions on you. They don't do it for no reason. So they want change. We want change. And you better do it. And if you don't listen to us, well, you lost your ship. Sorry, we gained a ship. You lost a ship. And for some people to, to warmonger in the news, this one always kills me. They're like Trump inches closer to war with Venezuela. There will be no war with Venezuela. Venezuela has a hard time feeding half of its people. Right.

[C]

It'd be a conflict, maybe a stepping stone. I don't know. It would not be a war. And quite frankly, like, keeping up pressure like this prevents war.

[A]

Absolutely. Guess what? Guess how they're going to fund their war. Through moving oil around the world illegally is how they're going to fund it. Stop them from doing that and make them act right and make them, I don't know, hold a legitimate election for starters. And then, and that's really what, what most these sanctions are, are about Maduro just being a, a piece of crap and a illegitimate president. And that's why we don't, you know, we're just not bad. We don't go slap sanctions on people because, because we don't like your accent. So the, so I, I don't, I don't mind, I don't mind this one. But, but there will be no war because they're not coming over to us, I assure you. They can't get a speedboat across the water. They're not coming to us. I don't see us putting a large invasion on them. So there will be no war. So quit doing this fear mongering of everything he does to enforce a sanction that's going to lead us closer to war. And the other thing is they'll do just, it's just out of fear. It's just out of fear. And they'll say, well, Russia is going to come be involved now because they're friendly with Venezuela. I think Russia's a little busy right now.

[C]

Yeah, they got their hands tied pretty good.

[A]

Russia's, Russia's busy making a fool out of themselves on the world stage and showing everyone that they can't beat up on their little brother that's literally right next to him. So you think Russia is going to be able to cross an ocean and, and come do Something to us. I have zero concerns about Russia. I have zero concerns about Venezuela. And if you put them together, that still equals zero concerns.

[C]

Russia has no, no hardline interest in Venezuela. Yes, they dabble, yes, they touch their toe in the water out there, but not worth going to war with America about. There's nothing there.

[A]

It the one. I'm not, I'm not. Because I think, I think some horrible things have happened to young men on both sides of that Russian, Ukrainian war that are following orders and didn't deserve what they got. I think on a humanitarian level, what's going on over there is a travesty. And I've been to Ukraine several times. I've got to see it firsthand. I, I hate it. But on the world stage, I'd be lying if I told you I couldn't be any happier that Russia is not close to who we thought they were. Not even close.

[C]

Nope.

[A]

Before this, everyone was not. I wouldn't say you were either scared of Russia or you really respected him as a near peer. And after Russia really just completely tripped over their own feet after day three of the invasion and have not really proved anything since then. I don't even know if I believe the word near peer should even be uttered when, when talking about war with the United States.

[C]

Now the only closest near peer would come to numbers which would come to China. As far as technology, tactics, experience all those things, there is no near peer. So all those that are really, really adamant about telling folks like us that we have never been contested, we need to do near peer stuff, please find them, find those individuals that would test us and maybe then we can talk, but that this doesn't exist right now.

[A]

I'm gonna tell a story, I'm gonna change dates and locations for, for reasons to not get a phone call. But I was in a country and this country wanted our ISR capabilities. Well, we don't sell our ISR capabilities. So we, so we told them no. And they said, well if you don't give us these ISR capabilities, we're going to go to Russia, China, and China will give us these ISR capabilities and more specifically wanted armed these armed ISR capabilities. And so we said, well I mean we don't want you to do that, but I mean that's your call. We can't stop you. And so China came over and with something that looked a lot like our Predator with a missile that looked and was supposed to perform a lot like our hellfire missile. And there was a empty, burned out car in the middle of the field that they, they brought these, these guys in, they're going to do an exercise. Couldn't even hit an empty burned out car. They brought it back and they're like hey, sorry about that. Our, our, our guidance system wasn't calibrated correctly. And I've actually, I've seen that before with, with our own stuff. I'm like okay, well, well maybe it was either two or three more times. They never hit the, they never hit the car in the middle of the field. Meanwhile, we're over there in Iraq knocking out Iranian generals in a four car convoy that's moving at 30 mile an hour and dropping hellfires right in the passenger seat. That's, that's American technology. Chinese technology is still knockoff technology and it's still not American technology. And they wouldn't even be as close to knockoff technology if it wasn't for them stealing our technology.

[B]

It's called TEU for a reason.

[A]

Exactly. You say that, but really. Exactly. Look at all the knockoff stuff they sell us. And none of you are happy when you get a Chinese knockoff with technology because it'll work half the time and it feels cheap because it is cheap. Their military is no different. Yeah, they got, yeah, they got numbers. But in the day, if you're really talking about it, especially if they have to come over here, I'm not are the, the best thing. I mean of course we lucked out with it, but the security blanket we have of the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean, China, you're, you can hate us all you want and you can put, you can have a 3 million man army if you want. You're not crossing those oceans and touching us. No, you're just not doing it. And the same kind of goes your way. It's very difficult to, to cross you know, half a globe over and, and maintain a real large scale war. You're just not going to do it. You know to, to a. Now I got to think of a different word than near peer but because I don't want to even use that against them.

[C]

Kind of, kind of peer KP to.

[A]

To a somewhat peer. You know and I don't, I just, I don't not just technology. I don't, I've, I've just, I've just like you. We've been around the world. I haven't seen another military that logistically can do that.

[C]

Right. We had, you know, had still is Russia, China, Iran, North Korea. We've seen Russia. I think a lot of folks forget Israel pushing Iran in Pretty hard. There was a big concern about Iran's surface to air threats, you know, on the western part of the country. How are we going to do this? How are we going to defeat it? Israel just went right in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And annihilated their entire military leadership.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

North Korea.

[B]

Come on.

[C]

Come on. And then China has always been. The fear of numbers. I. I haven't heard, like, obviously the Internet blows up about their technology and they see their Gen 5 aircraft, potentially Gen 6, but anyone who's serious in the intelligence community, all that they could. They know, like, dude, it's not there. Like, it is capable. It's some. There's some decent stuff there, but not compared to what we have.

[A]

Don't get me wrong. We're going to. We're going to prepare like it could be.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

We'll never be too, you know, overly confident. We'll always prepare like it could be. But just something tells me, if I was a bet, man, if Bush ever came to shove, if. If Russia's the paper tiger that we found out that they are and they're under the same governmental system of communism, what makes you think China's any. Any better? Like, why would you. Why would you think that? Oh, they're. They're doing. Yeah, they're not doing all right, but those guys are doing it right. We'll make. It's just. It's not logical as well. No.

[C]

Nope.

[A]

All right, well. Any more, Drew?

[B]

Well, I got a couple things to add. Like, earlier, you said something about Russia.

[A]

I can't hear you.

[B]

I'm looking for my button. There it is. Earlier, you said something about Russia, you know, fighting their little brother and couldn't do it or. Look, it's not all little brothers are easy to beat up, you know, because that right there's my little brother, and this big brother can't do it. All right, the other one is about, you're not the size of Russia, but I'm getting there. The. The. The other is the tanker. I wish the seals did the tanker job. You know, I just did. Because if they did, then we could make T shirts that say something like, the sneaky seal gets the oil.

[A]

All right, Okay. I. And I'm sure I. I just don't know enough about the maritime operations, I'm sure, either legally or just through, you know, who owns certain AOs, which is normally how it goes down. I do wonder why the Coast Guard got that mission and. And the seals didn't.

[C]

I'm just. I am sure there are some very upset. But I am.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

And no, nothing against the Navy. I'm glad the Coast Guard got it because God bless them, like, they're hard. They do a lot of absolutely cool shit.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I've had a couple rescue swimmers that were on team with me, and, man, the stuff that they did up in Alaska and all that, like, crazy stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I'm glad that they got to get that mission, like, good on those dudes. And they look legit. I couldn't tell. Yeah, I was wondering who they were.

[A]

Yeah, we all saw that video. What was that. What was that Kevin costume movie? The Coast Guard movie. Yeah. What was it called?

[C]

You gonna come Save me?

[B]

I thought it was called Coast Guard.

[C]

No.

[A]

Coast Guard.

[C]

Coast Guard Man.

[A]

Something. Not Angel. Gosh. What. What was it? Oh, my gosh. I can't.

[C]

Fisherman. I don't know. I don't remember.

[A]

Oh, super chats. Save us. This is embarrassing.

[B]

It'll be fast.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Anyway, and then some. Some in the chats are talking about those Marine Force Recon. And the Coast Guard wasn't just Coast Guard.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And that's what chads are saying. Well, the Guardian. There it is.

[A]

The Guardian. All right, well, that'll be difficult because Marine Force Recon isn't a unit anymore. So Force Recon. So if. If Marines were there, it wasn't Force Recon.

[C]

I don't know why a Force Recon unit would do that. Anyway.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, we got dice. 6,000, 236 says private equity today would make our children renters and slaves until a revolution if only landowners could vote. But I agree something should change.

[A]

Yeah, there's. Like I said before, I mean, there would definitely need to be some progress to that. But I mean, that is a good point. That's the reason why we should have progressed. But we progressed way too far, way too fast with. I really don't know, in a weird way how we went from. Hey, it's. Voting needs to come from a few people that vested interest to within a relatively short amount of time effort. You get a vote. You get a vote. You get a vote. You get a vote.

[B]

I could chime in on that a little bit.

[A]

What do you got?

[B]

It's a political balance between the haves and have nots. Right. So our founding fathers, they. They would say that if you give everybody the. The ability to vote, then the majority who doesn't have will vote to take what the minority has. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so that's why our founding. Our founding fathers talked about that, that the minority, that the majority will Vote in the ability to take from what the minority landowners have. So that is a legitimate issue. The other issue, state laws were on a state side, not a federal side. So the states slowly changed the rules. Veterans are one. Veterans were not all landowners. You know, those who fought for the country, Revolutionary War, but. But they fought for the country, but they can't vote. That was a problem. And then a lot of states would say, hey, come to our state and we'll give you a vote. And so that. That changed a lot. Andrew Jackson pushed a lot for that. So those are. And then a lot of towns started growing, and you had less and less landowners. And then. So you had a lot of people who are like, hey, we got taxation without representation. No one's representing us, and we don't own land. So it just kind of evolved.

[C]

Yeah, I think you just brought up the land as an example right from the very beginning. But there has to be some kind of incentive. Like there has to be some way to get people who can vote an interest into understanding who I am voting for or what I am voting for. Instead of Joe Blow, who walks in there and just puts a line through all Democrats or a line through all Republicans, not understanding what any of them believe in or what they're going to do when they're in office or whatever is to eliminate that crap.

[A]

Yeah. And I know I kind of paraphrase it, but this is. Socrates was a warned that leaders would flatter the public with easy promises, ignoring difficult truths, leading to disastrous decisions. And man, he couldn't be more right. It's like he was describing what would be the American political system.

[B]

It's almost like our founding fathers. Educated Red Socrates. I think they did.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See what's next here. We've got Veronica. Thank you very much. 20 bucks. Thank you very much. User po4 says just to help Fred feel at home. What's the best barrel length?

[A]

Keep it 5, 5, 6. With. With its caliber? I. I don't know. You're gonna ask questions, but, you know, I'll. What? If we have any questions, I'll answer it for him. What's the best bear length?

[C]

It depends on what you're doing. Me?

[B]

I'm just. Are you hunting Bigfoot?

[A]

Okay. Yeah, exactly. I want a gun that's. That's best for, like, kind of best overall gun. I could use it for home defense and I could. I could use it for hunting if I wanted to go reach out and touch 3, 4, 500 meters.

[C]

I mean, I just use a 10 and a half inch barrel. Like 10 inch. The 11 half inch barrel. 10, 3, whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Keep it some somewhat short. I think the age of the musket is kind of gone.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

You got to be able to do all the things and 10 to 13 inch barrel will get out to 300 meters. No issue.

[A]

Yeah. Really. When it comes to like outside of combat, like, I really don't know why. There's a lot of people, they might go hunting. But if you're going hunting, you're not taking a 5.56 gun with you, generally speaking. And if you are, it's something somewhat close range. I'm just a fan of. Of a shorter barrel gun.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

A 10 and a half inch barrel gun. Or do 5.56 to do everything you. Yeah. You need it to do.

[C]

I think the. It's not the only reason, but I think the. The major reason why to get a 16 inch barrel is just legal reasons.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So you can put a buttstock on the thing.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

So retarded.

[A]

But yeah, just. Then slap on a butt stock on the gun.

[C]

Not a butt stock.

[A]

That's right. Not a butt sock. That's a brace. I'm sorry. Slap that on it. Does it. It's got a piece of Velcro on it. And you don't have to carry a musket around. You can have a 10 and a half inch barrel. All right, Drew, let's take it to the break. And you ready for it? Yep, we're good. All right, we'll come back in just a few minutes.

[C]

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[A]

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[C]

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[A]

You're clear to engage with weapons. You're clear to engage with weapons. Okay, I don't normally plug our stuff a whole lot on the live. I like to keep it fun. I like to keep it about everyone else. But we did just re up our bourbon bottles. There are seven year FRCC bourbon. There is a lot. We were getting a little bit low. It didn't sell out. Thankfully, we got more in time. But go to FRCC shop. You can even use the FRCC15 promo code on this. Get 15 off. I can't think of a cooler present. If you don't know what to get someone, get them that. Every, every man would needs a good seven year bourbon on his shelf. And we got it.

[B]

That's it, guys. And don't forget to like and subscribe, okay? If you like what you're seeing every Thursday night, please like and subscribe. It really helps.

[A]

I'm the worst at that. I hate saying that. Nothing makes me feel like a, like a young kid wannabe YouTuber. Like, smash that like and subscribe button. I just. I just can't do it.

[B]

You're an influencer now stop.

[A]

So thanks for following the sword on that one, Drew, and doing it because that's my job. I know it has to be done. Like, it has to be done. Devin reminds me all the time you gotta say subscribe. And it's true. Our. Our views. Our views are great. The views in the channel are we're doing just as many views, if not more than. Than the last podcast that I was on. But I was just, you know, talking to you about that. It had 130, 000 subscribers. Well, we have. I think we just hit 22 000. But our views are the same. So people are watching. They're just not hitting the. The subscribe button. But I care more about the views and people actually hearing the stories and getting to see it than I care about the subscribers. But if you subscribe, you won't, you won't ever miss an episode. And we got some really cool ones. Coming up. Sure. I think this is a good one to get into. We just got. Got done talking about guns. Let's go to Instagram, go to the shooting video. Our friend, our good old friend, Jimmy Watson. I saw this one. Made me think about this. Hands up.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Oh. All right.

[B]

Get her. Get her. By now you've read all the books.

[A]

You know what? Let's. Let's hear what Jimmy's got to say. Jimmy's always entertaining. Yeah.

[C]

Seen all the movies.

[A]

And you've heard about the longest sniper.

[C]

Show in the world.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have seen the shortest sniper show shot in the world in the face.

[C]

I don't know why he's playing the.

[A]

One man with a musket, and I don't like to see how lazy coming in the room.

[B]

Oh, there he is.

[C]

Put the gun down. And I don't suggest clearing your house.

[A]

Or any house with a scoped rifle, but here we are. And he got the job done. Now touch point, that follow button. Let's go.

[B]

Let's just watch one more time.

[A]

Let's just watch the beginning of that one more time. Hands up. Hands up, Hands up.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Oh. He double tapped him.

[A]

There's. There's a couple things on this one. It. It's hard to be too harsh on it because you. You can. You can say whatever you want to say about this. You can say you don't like how he entered the room. You can say you don't like that he's a scoped weapon on a hostage rescue. You can say that double tapping was a bold choice at that distance, especially with that scope. But you know what?

[C]

He done. He done did it.

[A]

He done did it, you know, save bad guy down, good girl, saved everyone. The good guys are.

[C]

Are.

[A]

Are coming home unshot. But that. So I want to give credit where credit's due. Right off the bat, the guy got the job done. No one was. No one was hurt, except he needed to be hurt. And kudos, Tim, for that. Also kudos to that officer for having the balls to do that and clearly the training. Something tells you this guy probably goes to the range in his own time to make sure that he's proficient in order to take those type of shots.

[C]

Yeah. It's one thing to make those kinds of shots in the range. It's another completely different feeling.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

When it's live, especially when they're moving around.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Heads do weird things.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

So to have that kind of pressure and knock that out like that. Two shots with an lpo, like, so that.

[A]

That Being said like anything else. And I wanted to make sure I gave kudos that. That to that officer shirt that officer first, and make sure that what I'm about to say cannot be misconstrued. Although the Internet will do its best to, to twist that for, for those who don't like me. But let's talk about that because there's. I'm not saying you got lucky, but it may not always end up like that if you, you. It's not an ideal situation, so let's, let's put ourselves in a situation where we can hire our. Our success rate. So, I mean, it's hard to say, but I believe you continue. If you continue to do business like that. Sometimes this is what happens in, in law enforcement. They're at times they're unopposed. And just because a bad tactic works, it makes you go home going, well, this tactic works. Well, no, it, it worked then because you weren't on because you were unopposed. So if, if you had gone up against someone who really wanted to oppose you back, that tactic wouldn't have worked. So, so let's, so let's talk about as always, like, how. How can, how can we do things better and ensure next time we see this, we do it better and our success rate drives up dramatically? So right off the bat, you don't always get. I didn't really see, but you guys let me know it wasn't a clean entry. I don't know. It looked like he pulled the door. And I don't know if the person on the inside was holding the door or if the guy wasn't ready and kind of partially opened the door.

[C]

What was a manual breach? I think he was using a hooley. And the guy really. I mean, he, he obviously got training on it, but he kind of got stuck on what he.

[A]

Yeah, just pull out that video. Let's just look at the breach here for a second and see if we can see. See what that I say hesitation on the. The door itself kind of hesitate to. To come open.

[B]

Well, it took them boys. The full video shows it took them boys a long time to pry it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so they were, they were, they were prying on. They were working on it for a.

[B]

Long time before they got to that point.

[A]

Okay. All right. The. He never really won. Let's. And you don't always get. I get it. That he bar didn't come from a tier one unit that has like 16 guns in the, in the, in the arsenal. And this is just good debate and talk. Clearing a house with A lpvo. I just, it's just not ideal for me and law, law, law enforcement in general. They just again we got to talk about generalities. They don't take really long shots. Have I seen longer shots been taken? Sure. But let's plan on the most likely course of action, not the most dangerous course of action. I believe the average sniper engagement, sniper.

[C]

Engagement is around 70 yards or something like that. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Is in the, is in the double digits. So I just personally would be, would be running a red dot all the time and so that's not, that's not the, that's not the, the site you want to be sending that, that, that close, that close, that close of a range shot off with.

[C]

Yeah, the LPVO just got, just got really, really popular. There's nothing wrong with the dot in a three by if you need it because the three by is awesome. So you can just take it off.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Sticking in a pocket somewhere. And if you need it, you need it. If you don't, it doesn't live on your gun.

[A]

I think, I think they're better suited for hunting. Yeah. If we're just being honest and I'm from Florida so more like Florida hunting. So if you end up in this trail, you know and you know, let's say you're a hog hunting, you get up in a. Yeah, I've seen friends get up in a hog hog hunt and get up in a tree and you know, and there is this clearly this, you know, footpath that the hogs have been using ends up being really close. Well you don't, you don't want your hunting rifle. That's 15, 20, 25 power. When this you could easily be on, you know, in a trail on 30 meters or less having to take a shot. LPVO is great on that. Bring it back to absolutely low power and almost regardless of how close it is. But it's still not, we're still not talking about room clearing distances of 5ft, 6ft, 7ft. It's still, you can say they can make that argument. Well, this is almost as good as a red dot and that is true. Or as a almost as good. Someone can have red dots in them. So I understand that argument. It's almost as good as an eotech when we're doing hostage rescue. You don't get almost as good like you, you, you or not just hostage rescue when you're doing high value targets, high risk warrants. We can't, I'm not putting the lives of my brothers on the line on something that's almost as good like it has to be the best thing for. For the job.

[C]

Yeah. And lpvo they advertise one power but it's just. That's just not the case. May. May. I'll give it benefit of the doubt. Maybe there's 2% out there. That is but most of them are not one power.

[A]

Right.

[C]

They're either negative 0.9 or they're 1.2. They're not one power. So you're going to get that fishbowl or the opposite of fishbowl effect if you're looking through your optic.

[A]

That's exactly what I was about to go. At the end of the day it's too magnified. Right. And well and and at the end of the day it's going to have. It can be very little but it's going to have some sort of eye relief effect to it. That eotech's aim points your traditional red dots does not matter how close or far away you are. Yes it's pretty fairly insignificant but it is there it is it and that's the s as best as you're going to get. Hey it's almost as good as a neotech but it but it won't be you know the other I say problem I have but he never really made entry truly made entry into that room. Like you have to be able to move and shoot and understand that person was really close. That person was almost as close. It was what we'd call an immediate threat. I mean it, it. It was there. But you still have to maintain movement because if you're just going to sit there and post up in the doorway and and take a shot. This is where we go with that's worked because that hostage taker didn't want to kill you that night. But if that hostage taker wanted to kill that cop that night he'd have blasted that cop as soon as that cop was standing in that doorway waiting to take a fit even though he did a pretty good job of shooting fairly quick. You're not gonna beat the bad guy to shooting you because you have to step in that doorway. You have to see where in the room the hostage and hostage taker are. You have to identify where in the room. Then you have to identify who's a good guy, who's the bad guy. And then you have to identify where am I going to place this shot and then you have to place that shot. It's like four things you have to do. The bad guy knows where you're coming in especially on this situation where they've been prying on the door for a little bit, you're coming to that door, he knows it. So as soon as that door cracks open, you just have to shoot at anything that moves in that doorway.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Everything is not in your favor. So as cool as a video of it was to watch to see the good guys come on top and a bad guy get it and someone gets saved. There was a lot of things that I felt like at least needed to be addressed, could be addressed. Say, hey, like let's, let's, let's clean this up just in case next time that person wants to kill a cop. This day we don't give this person an opportunity to, to kill a cop.

[C]

Yeah, it really sucks to, to do any kind of negative actor action with it because I really, really praise. Because the typical. And again, I hate the bash on them, but the typical way to go is they'll do some negotiating, they'll draw this out. They don't really want to take the next step, whether it's because of training or it's because they feel like they're going to be compromised legally, whatever that is. And this guy just stepped the up. But yes, getting clogged in the doorway. There's a bed in the way. Not getting enough guys in the room. Not having those angles spread out. Because if it's just one dude, right, me and him, he can put the hostage right in front of me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't have a shot.

[A]

Yeah. We got to open up those vectors into him. Absolutely. Yeah. And so, and again, I don't mind saying it. I said at the beginning. You said it. Kudos to this cop because he got the job done. But, but we, we also, I think, have this mentality because we lived it in, in, in our profession. Every, every mission we ever went on, regardless of how good the mission went. What's the first thing we came back.

[C]

And did after action?

[A]

And then what? Did we ever talk about what we could do better? I'm sorry. Gosh. Did we ever talk about how great we were?

[C]

No.

[A]

What's the only thing we talked about?

[C]

Who fucked up, what. And there's a very. Every mission there's a very informal one.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

When it comes to the teams. And then there's a formal one and it comes to a larger group of folks. And the informal one is not forgiving.

[A]

It's not. Now I really feel like, I feel like if, if anyone like an outsider ever saw that.

[C]

Oh, dude.

[A]

They would be like, they would think.

[C]

They hate each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They would think we hate each other. They think that mission must have went really wrong. And, like. No. No. Mission went about as. About. About as well as as any of the rest of them do.

[C]

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's really, really funny because of how direct the teen guys are with each other. And it gets to a point where it's more like brotherly love type things. Like, because I want you to be the best.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I want you to be the best not just so that you can save your life, but so you can save my life as well. I want you to be the best. And a lot of folks don't understand that kind of hard criticism. Yeah. And I'm doing this because I love you. I'm not doing this because you piss me off or I hate you now. Like, I want you to live. I want you to come home and.

[A]

I talk about all the time. Anyone out there that's on a tactical team, please, you know, adopt this culture. You know, I preach culture all the time, and a good culture is so hard to get and there. And if you have a good culture, it's because there were really good dudes that fought for a really hard time to make sure whatever team you're on has good culture. And it's why you have to protect it at all costs, because it's so easy to lose it. And once you lose it, it's so hard to get it back.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Drew, let's got any. Got a super chat real quick.

[B]

Yeah, let's see Mr. Polite back in. He says plus side on the marines doing the VBSS visit board search seizure and not the seals. There won't be 30 books about it. And the Marines are finally getting recognized. Thank you. Plight. Holy fook, says fred. You finding UFOs, UAPs, or Bigfoot first? Any stories you can share from your recovery missions?

[C]

I haven't done any recovery missions. I don't know where that came from. That was something completely different. I've never done any recovery stuff. Just put that out there.

[A]

So you haven't recovered a ufo?

[C]

No. No, no, no wink.

[A]

Okay. Sure you haven't.

[C]

Nope. I haven't recovered anything.

[A]

It's exactly the government make you say that.

[C]

That's what they say. Yeah. NDAs. No NDAs.

[A]

Doesn't matter what you say. No, they don't believe it.

[C]

I know. No, they won't believe it, which understandably, so. There's a lot of lying going on, so it's really tough to tell what's. What's the truth, what's the lie? What's a half fiction there?

[A]

Yeah, we have seen some weird stuff.

[C]

Yeah, I've seen a lot of weird stuff. I'll put this out there.

[A]

You should recover any weird stuff.

[C]

No, no, no.

[A]

Well, that's not gonna help your case.

[C]

Yeah, like, I will put this out there. I am not a believer. I am not a skeptic. I'm a firm believer. Now, having said that, that if you categorize yourself in one of these things, whether it's Republican, Democrat, believer, novel, whatever, then you're forced to live within that realm. And if you have ideas outside of that that we kind of talked about earlier.

[A]

Right.

[C]

If you have. I see. Well, now you're not one of us and you kick us out. It's like, right. So I don't know who's right. I don't know what is correct. I do know that we are very, very young as a species. And according to or in reference to the universe itself, to think that we have it all figured out seems kind of like nonsense. And it's not to say that these are unnatural things or supernatural or whatever. They may just be universal natural things that happen. We just haven't seen it yet or discovered it yet or whatever. So I don't believe I stay or remain objective in everything that we do. It's not to say that I don't get awestruck. I know what an aircraft is. I know what a fucking balloon is. I know what a bird is. We have very, very, very professional crews that run systems and that run optics and do all these things. And they're all objective folks as well. They're all prior military guys, a lot of them from Tier one community. And they're not very emotional about things. And that's where that a lot of stuff comes from. It's very emotional.

[B]

I want to believe.

[C]

Or you guys are grifters or whatever. Like, no, we're just a bunch of idiots standing out in the desert. A bunch of grown men standing out in the desert looking up at the sky and stuff. And we have captured a lot of weird things. And I don't know what it is. So I'm not going to proclaim I know what it is. Say it's the government or it's aliens.

[A]

We say captured. Like visually captured.

[C]

Yeah, correct.

[B]

Make sure any redheaded giants.

[C]

That one's super funny because I. I heard that story long before it became like the Internet sensation.

[A]

The old redheaded giants in Afghanistan is what you're talking.

[C]

You're talking about and like.

[A]

You ever seen them?

[C]

No, but so like I don't know.

[A]

Anyone who's seen them.

[C]

Apparently they annihilated.

[B]

How can you miss them? They're giants, Fred.

[C]

Well, supposedly they annihilated like an entire special forces team or whatever. Like I would have heard about that.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah.

[C]

I know entire ODA got denial. I would have heard about that.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

Let's see here. We've got Fravel McKaney says hello. Brent, do you have any gear you autograph? I think something signed by you would be an awesome Christmas gift for my 13 year old son who loves history and the military. Thanks for all you do, man.

[A]

Thank. Thanks for that. Gives me opportunity to say there is something I autograph. You can get one of my bourbon bottles.

[C]

You're welcome son.

[A]

Autographed. And he can hold on to it till he's 21. Until he's 21. And then it'll be. It'll be like. Yeah, nice and aged. Like 20 year bourbon. It's like a gift that'll continue to give. You know what I'll you. Who is that? What was his name?

[B]

Frat. Fravel.

[A]

Fravel McHaney.

[B]

Fravo McCain. Fravel, McKinney.

[A]

Fravel, Fravel McCain, Fraggle Rock. The email us at the tier one podcast. Gmail.com. yeah and. And I know anyone could do this now but say that exact thing so that you super chatted me and I'll write you back and we will, we will figure this thing out for your son.

[B]

We better not have a hundred frapple mechanics in the inbox.

[A]

Don't you guys hose this guy.

[B]

Self govern people self governed.

[A]

Because if I. If I get more than one then no one gets it. So if I just get wood and.

[B]

Then the 13 year old son gets nothing now.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

70 emails with the I am Spartacus.

[A]

So there you go. I'll get you some brother.

[B]

All right. All right. Let's see. Corn Pop says the cost and the system that puts people in front of us to vote for is the biggest issue to address in my opinion.

[A]

The cost in the system. Yeah, yeah. Puts people in front of us.

[C]

Wait, would they give a the vote for right?

[B]

Like, like it's hard to get some. A good guy who doesn't have a lot of money or nobody knows about him to be in front of people.

[C]

Yeah. You're not getting those homeboys from Kentucky wooden wooden areas coming out to be congressmen.

[A]

That's true. But yes and no. Obviously there's, there's. The good news is there's, there's plenty on on both sides of that, we still have a decent amount of people who are just grassroots movement good people who got in there. And of course, there's your. Your people with money that of sorts, bought their way into it. Yeah. Not wrong about that. But it's. But, but it's not. I don't think it's a reason to say, hey, let's. Let's not try to get good people in because the system's rigged. It's not completely rigged yet.

[C]

I mean, you can tell. You can tell a lot of those guys are fake. Guys and gals. They are fake as hell.

[A]

I know.

[C]

And when you're. When they're bought and paid for and they're speaking up on a. On a podium somewhere, like.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I don't see how can nobody see through this person.

[A]

Yep. Authenticity is hard to fake. It really is. And some people are good at it, but generally speaking, it's. It's really hard to fake.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. John Galipsey says, have you ever met Sergeant Ron Franklin, A. Plank, owner of Delta Force? My dad was his architect at Franklin Homes in San Antonio in the 90s. I was supposed to be a trim carpenter for them, but they went under before I started.

[A]

No, I do not know him. But I'll, I'll, I'll look here and see if. See if he's there. But no, I do not know Ron Franklin.

[B]

Frenchy Motor says, hey, Brent, 44, and want to apply for SF selection as a civilian. If I hit top.

[C]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[B]

If. If I hit top PT standards, is there any chance the army would take someone my age? I have a good career as a civilian. Time to serve.

[A]

I don't know what the a. If you. I don't know what the age waiver is.

[C]

I thought it was 42.

[A]

Okay. I thought low 40s, but maybe there's a waiver to get in. I. I know of someone about that age, if not that exact age, that went through Ranger school. Let me tell you, if you can go to range.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If you go to ranger school at that age, you can go through pretty much anything at. At that age. Yeah. You could do it. But I would. I would highly suggest you go to hp-trt.com and make sure you are at your. At your peak and, and chemically roll back those. The hands of time a little bit. Yeah.

[C]

I'll say this like, I would never tell another man that he can't go fight if he's telling.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

If he's telling me he wants to go fight you're gonna go fight?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I will tell you, this is a young man's game. So it's not to say you can't do it. You just have to work five times, 10 times harder, whatever it is. But you do have the mental advantage, like, you are a seasoned human being, so you can play through a lot of the. You understand, like, this is a game, it's going to end. Just got to keep going. Your body, although your body might not appreciate that.

[A]

And also, I would never. Because it was something, even though I was younger when I did it. The mentality is the same. If it's something you think you want to do, don't not do it. Because your age. And then five years later, you're 50 and now you definitely can't do it. Going, you know what? I really thought I could have done it at 44. I could have done it. Don't. Don't be that guy that says he could have done it. Go out there, find out if you could have done it or not, and you get to live the rest of your life with no. No regrets, no regards, no regrets.

[B]

And don't always take the first no as an answer.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Because it's the government. All right, Craig. Love it, man. Thank you for the love. Really appreciate that. I've heard it's called a C note.

[A]

Last week, someone said that you said that. Look, you gangster youth bastard.

[B]

Look, look, I looked that up. Okay, okay. Pop culture stole that from another culture earlier on.

[C]

All right?

[A]

Are you serious?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Look at you. Look at you.

[B]

I can Google.

[A]

What culture? Don't talk in generality. I don't remember specifically what culture stole from what culture.

[B]

I don't know. 20s and 30s. The hipsters in the 20s and 30s.

[A]

Of course. All right.

[B]

Anyway, Gregor says, how do you see Ukraine playing out with the US Ramping weapons. Move the needle. Keep up the great work, guys.

[A]

Man, when it comes to Ukraine, I never thought it would get to this. So I have a really hard time trying to guess where.

[C]

Where.

[A]

Where it goes from here. What do you think?

[C]

I don't know about getting them more, maybe more of the same than what we begin them. I don't think any more advanced weapons would be a very smart thing to do on our part. Man. They're everyone, all three sides. U.S. eU doesn't even count U.S. russia and Ukraine are all working hard to work some kind of a peace deal. Yeah, I think it's gonna kind of get there. And if it doesn't this time, it's just going to roll into the next time. It's just going to have to take some negotiating. I don't think one side is going to drop that. Right. Correct round bomb, whatever is going to end it up like.

[A]

No, I don't. Here's the problem. I don't, I don't. I can argue all of it out. I do. I think there will be a peace deal at some point. Yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I, all. I also want to argue that in order for that to happen, Putin would essentially have to bend the knee and say, you know what? I couldn't beat Ukraine, so I'm going to have to admit defeat and going to a peace treaty. And the only way he would do that is if the peace treaty in it gave up so much that he's willing to take it and then he can parade it as a win.

[C]

Yeah, he just needs, he just keeps Odessa and he just needs eastern part of Ukraine because that's where all the resources are. If he gets those, then he can. I think he'd be. Feel. I think he would feel like it's a win for him.

[A]

And that to Zelensky, who's, I mean, he could always change his mind after, unfortunately, burying a lot of young men. He may eventually change his mind, but he's made it really, you know, clear that they're not willing to give up any land to, to Russia. And that's, you know, that's a, a hard line for him.

[C]

So I don't think he has a choice.

[A]

But, yeah, I, and I, I know that's. That is how.

[C]

I'm not saying it's the right answer. I just don't think he had a choice.

[A]

Yeah. So, yeah, you know, that's, that's a real good question. And it, Something has to happen at some. It's been going on for years. Like, it, it does have to end. And I do believe this. If, if someone could bring him to the table, it, It'd be Donald Trump. Like, it's. Say, you say what you want about the guy. He has gotten people to the negotiating table. And you know who couldn't get this deal across? Kamala Harris.

[C]

No.

[A]

So good. It's a good thing. The president, the presidential election went. Went the way it did. You know who couldn't have done it? Joe Biden. He doesn't even know his own name at this point. I'm not sure people did at the, at the end of his presidency.

[C]

No. People give Trump a lot of shit and I, and I completely get it as well. Right. But he is, during his first term, he made some moves that I won't get into that were very smart, and it actually prevented wars. I think he continues to do that now, but initially, people will look at it like, he's so aggressive and he's so bloody. It's like. Yeah, you know, it's called projecting your force. The other guys are like, you know, maybe we shouldn't do that. And then they stand down and they do exactly what you asked them to do, and then you pull your stuff back and it's. It's all done, and no war happens. You posture your guys around there, and they're like, wow, that's. That's a lot of peacocks. Let's get back in the house.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, we'll see.

[B]

Brandon Bailey says Rooster by Allison chains for closeout. 10 bucks. And 10 bucks is in the lead.

[A]

All right. Great song.

[C]

It's one of my favorites.

[A]

I used to listen to it every morning during sniper school.

[C]

I had a bet with my wife. I didn't like staying out late, and I don't like going to bars and stuff. Had a live band there. One guy had an electric violin.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And the guy had a keyboard, I think. Or maybe it was a guitar.

[A]

All right.

[C]

And I was like, okay, look, if they can play Rooster, we'll stay. And those dudes killed it. I was like that. We gotta stay here.

[A]

All right. Yeah, I'll take that bat.

[B]

All right, let's see. Good. Dev Nicks 007 says Fred's Choice, closeout song for 20 bucks. But it's Fred's Choice.

[C]

I mean, Rooster was one of my favorites, for sure.

[A]

You can add on to it.

[C]

We do some deftones, maybe. I love deftones.

[A]

Oh, old school, new school.

[C]

Be quiet and drive.

[A]

Okay, It's. Were you just telling me that as the host, or is that the song?

[C]

Be quiet and drive.

[A]

Okay. All right. And now you're in the lead, and you didn't even know it. Fred. Now Fred's in the lead with 20 bucks. Sweet. And, you know, you guys would be real jerks to come out and. And not pile on to. To his song and just.

[C]

I know, right?

[A]

He's the guest.

[C]

I'm an Air Force guy. I'm sensitive. Do they like me? I hope they like me.

[B]

Vanessa. Vanessa's in. She says hello. Tier 1 FRCC family. How'd I do, V? All right, Fred, you're the man. Big fan since meeting you at shot. Question for all in the room. What is your dream car? Also, can I have a hoodie? Merry Christmas. Thank you. All for the best year in a while. Oh, nice.

[A]

All in the room. That's, that's. That's a great question to the guest Cam. What's your. What's your dream car Magnet? Jesus. Into the mic, you savage.

[C]

A 69 Camaro.

[A]

69 Camaro. Amanda, quick, you're on the clock. What is it?

[C]

A Chevy.

[A]

A Chevy? A Chevy. All right, you got one chance. You already messed it up. Devin, what is your. What is your dream car? You know my dream. What is your dream car? I have it right now.

[C]

But my next dream car, my side.

[A]

Dream car, is going to be the Tesla Roadster. Yeah. Okay. All right, Drew, what is your dream car? I have a lot, by the way. When, when. When Devon says she has it, she drives a Tesla cyber a. A murdered out black wrap Tesla cypher truck.

[C]

It's true.

[A]

That cute little girl right there. I love it.

[B]

My dream car is definitely the Shelby Cobra.

[A]

The Shelby Cobra.

[B]

Shelby Cobra. Blue white stripes.

[A]

Okay. The old, the old classic one. Okay. Yeah, sure, sure.

[B]

The one that if it's raining, you can't drive it.

[A]

All right, Fred, what's your. What's your dream car?

[C]

I'm gonna go simple. I just want an old Willie Jeep. Oh, yeah, like the parts kit. They bring it in the big box and you put it together yourself. I want that thing.

[A]

Okay. I'm a big Corvette guy and I love the new C8 Corvette. So be like, you know, make a dream car. Make it the. Their ZR1C8 Corvette. But I'd be. I'd be about just as happy with any C8. Brand new C8 Corvette. I just love them. I absolutely love them. It's America right there.

[C]

I am not a car guy. I'm a big truck person.

[A]

What's your dream truck? Should. Should I ask you that? What's your dream truck?

[C]

I don't have one yet.

[A]

Like a Raptor or the.

[C]

Let's just do old school Broncos with no electronics in it.

[A]

Yeah, I do love. Hey, there's a. There's a new electric vehicle Scout. It looks like the old school scout body. Yeah. But it's all electric. They even. They actually, they actually you can get an option. Has a generator, like a gas generator in it. But the gas generator is in case you're out in the middle of nowhere, can recharge your batteries and extends a range like 6 or 700 miles. It's crazy. But when it comes to those, it's not like your normal cars. The norm like normally like the, the layout and the interior didn't matter a whole lot to me when it comes to electric cars. The interface system is. Is so important, you know, and it's. And so it really matters a whole lot more to me. It's almost like an Android or an iPhone, right? Like, well, they're both smartphones, but the interface system are wildly different and a wildly different experience. So, I mean, I'd have to get in there and drive it. Not. Not even necessarily about driving. It really has to do with driving it and using the interface system to see how annoying it is or intuitive it is or how it. Or how that's designed. And really, that's a whole new thing that you have to consider with. With cars. When it comes to electric cars. Used to be, you know, speedometer. Speedometer attacks attack. The stereo is a stereo. Doesn't really matter. Just get in, drive it. Let's see how fast it is or how it breaks or how it handles. But now we have a whole iOS system to deal with.

[C]

I was just like, someone should be smart enough to see that. Bring back, like, an old school line. No electronics, none of that. Like, no interface. Just fucking bare bones. Just diesel, whatever. And that would make a killing with a ton of people because now they don't have to go on Facebook and look for an old Bronco or an old Chevy or whatever. No, here's a new one, but no electronics. Do it cheap.

[A]

Yeah, do it cheap. Because you can. Because in a weird way, that's. That's what people kind of want right now. Simplistic. Not a whole lot to break. EMP proof repairs aren't a whole lot. And I can buy one brand new for $200 a month. It would sell.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think it can be done. I don't think it can be done. I think government regulation on, you know, miles per per gallon and how things are supposed to be made. I don't think they can even make them anymore.

[A]

Not with that attitude, Drew.

[C]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

I love. Gosh, are you a Mexicant? That's what's going on over there.

[C]

That's why we have Elon Musk just.

[B]

Sucking the fun out of the room, I guess.

[A]

Yeah, I love that can't do attitude, Drew.

[B]

That's just my hate for the government, Brent. That's all that is. You want to do some IGs? You want to do the poll? You want to do?

[A]

Let's keep. Let's keep on this for just a little more.

[B]

All right, Matt Cheese, thanks for the $10 and the cool little picture thing there. It's Very cool. I don't know how you do that, but anyway. Joe Saunders. Yippee K. That's a. That's a Christmas thing. Honest question, how many commonwealths exist in the U.S. brent Drew? Anyone?

[A]

All right, they're. Kentucky is a commonwealth. I know. Pennsylvania, your home state. Devon is a commonwealth. Correct. Virginia. The Commonwealth of Virginia. What do you. What do you got? There's four of them. There's three. What do you got? I thought you. I thought you raised your hand like you had something. Oh, my gosh. Kentucky. Pennsylvania. Virginia. And I want to say Massachusetts.

[B]

That is correct.

[A]

Oh, did you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, why didn't you help me out?

[B]

Because you were over here struggling. You were doing it.

[A]

I was like, he's doing a good job. Yeah, There you go. Mass. Never mind. I should have said it with confidence. And Massachusetts. Massachusetts.

[B]

Puerto Rico is a semi one. Like a semi commonwealth, but semi commonwealth. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. There's a big rig joke there. I just can't.

[B]

Let's see. Late Adrian says, does Fred have any advice for a graduating high schooler aspiring to join Air Force Special warfare?

[C]

Hell yeah.

[B]

CCT, PJ, etc.

[C]

Yeah, we just talked about this. So the first step in all of this and whatever it is you're wanting to do and doesn't have to be anything to do with the military, is that this is it. This is the only thing I'm going to do. And there is no plan B. There is no backup, fallback, whatever plan. This is it. So it's not, well, I'll buy this house and it doesn't work. I'll buy this shed. And if it doesn't work, like, no, I'm putting it all in on this. And if I don't make it, which is not even. Like, I don't even think about that the entire time was just like, they're gonna have to. They're gonna have to fail me. I'm not quitting. But that's the first step, is that this is it. This is the only thing I want to do. This only thing I'm going to do. There is no backup plan. Once you got that, then all you should do. And we kind of actually talked about this earlier, get in the best shape of your life that you are capable of doing so. And then we kind of went back and forth about how much research you should do to pick whatever career field it is you want. I was very much in the. In the. In the realm of not knowing anything. I very much felt like if. If I understood what I was Getting into then I would have expectations of what. What the limitations are. Like. This day will end at this hour. I know that because I watched it on YouTube. And then you get to that day, real world, and it doesn't. Yeah, it goes on for another three hours or four hours or whatever.

[A]

A better job than. I didn't do a good job or we didn't be honest with you. I think of classifying that is research the job itself as much as you can. Right. Know about the job that you're signing up to do.

[C]

I want to be a medic. I want to be a radio guy.

[A]

Right. And. And what does that job entail? But there's really no reason to. To kind of game the system and learn as much about selection as possible and as much about the training as possible. That doesn't. If you want to do that job, then it shouldn't matter what that selection, that training process is. Know about the job that you've signed up to do, and then just be in the best shape of your life and roll the dice and give it hell when it comes to selection process.

[C]

Yeah. I. Not to pat myself on the back, but I felt like I had a pretty mature understanding of this. It's like, either I belong here or I don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And if I do belong here, I will gladly, you know, keep pushing forward and they'll keep picking me up. And if I don't belong here, they will absolutely let me know. And, like, I don't want to be that.

[A]

Picking me up.

[C]

Yeah. I don't want to be that guy that got brought in there and nobody wants to work with me kind of thing. So.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, nobody's happy in that situation. Them. Me. Why would I want to do that to myself?

[A]

So while we're talking, Drew, go ahead and put up a poll, if you will. Should voting be a right. Seems I'm wording that wrong. Should voting be available to every American. Or birthright? Yes, baby, however you decide to do it, whichever makes sense. And the poll is about. Do you guys think that the system is right and everyone. Because it is. It can be argued it's a slippery slope, and you start restricting who can vote and who can't vote. But this is. We've been. We've been with this system for a little bit. We know what this system gets us. Is that part of the problem or is that not part of the problem? I want to hear what you guys think about that.

[B]

There it is.

[A]

All right. Hey, Drew, real quick. This one just kind of made me Laugh. Let's go to the old man IG post. There it is. There it is right there. Oh, here he is. Well, that's a cop. What's your thing on top? I don't know. A Jaguar. Oh my goodness. You got a Jaguar?

[B]

Where.

[A]

Where is the guy? Buckle up.

[B]

Oh, wow. Oh no.

[A]

You trust this?

[B]

I'm hand up guys.

[A]

Love it.

[B]

That is awesome.

[A]

Oh my God. I cannot believe this.

[B]

That's incredible.

[A]

Are you, are you buckled? Yes, I want to be buckled.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Checking the seat. Well, how did he get down here? I called it. You called it? I did call. Who?

[B]

The guy driver who might be his name.

[A]

Amanda says he's scared. I am too. In other words, you're selling these is. Well, where's Jenny? We got big Amanda. Look at you. It's Amanda. Won't this car get. What are. The cops will see this here we.

[B]

Go intersection Worried about.

[A]

I'll never. I'll never forget this. No, he won't.

[B]

Oh my gosh, what an awesome video.

[A]

Every time I step into a vfw, that's the man I'm hoping that I run into.

[B]

That's what you want?

[A]

I want the old man. That. That's just flabbergasted, mind blown things. Happy to be there. Oh my gosh. It's such a wholesome video. But a part of me got to thinking because hopefully I get to keep up with technology. Keep. Keep your jokes to yourself, Devin. Hopefully I get to keep up that with technology. And I'm not that guy when I get older. But the truth is no one really keeps up with technology. You know, it does pass you by to some level. So it makes me wonder like when, when, when I'm 70, like what technology? Like how crazy is technology going to be then? And these guys here always, you know, my grandfather passed, I want to say recently because it's been a couple years now, but one of the greatest men to ever walk this earth. And in his generation, if you think about it, in his generation, his lifetime, he went from nowhere, cattle land, Florida, without even really running water. He had to still pump his well water and no electricity as a kid in, in central Florida, in the backwoods of central Florida. And then by the time that guy died, he's got a smartphone in his hand, he's got a Bluetooth headset on. We've been to the moon. There's jets, you know, that are flying, you know, transcontinental. I'm just, you know, there's super computers, you know, there's just in one Man's lifetime. Like how do you go from almost nothing to almost everything technology wise in one lifetime?

[C]

Government cover up. That's how.

[A]

It's just absolutely crazy and I do get it to some degree. And what do you think about this? Make sure I can ask it. Right. Clearly we're on this ridiculous scale or path, path up on, on technology, but at some point it's going to, you know, have to plateau or, or does it not, you know, does, is there, you know, I know there's like certain restrictions to how small processors can get and you know, how much storage, certain chips can get. And at some point we'll meet that, that capacity even with the electric cars we were talking about. I mean at some point the, the batteries can only hold so much of a charge, only be so light. We can only get them so far like. Or will we just continue to break down those, those barriers and there's really no end in sight to this, to the technological, technological advancements that we've had.

[C]

What really pisses me off though is you said batteries, batteries never get better. We're still carrying these big stupid fucking.

[A]

Green five Batteries never get better.

[C]

Yeah, sure, maybe humans have a cap, but that's where AI is going to come in. AI is going to take over and it will create that battery that is the size of an atom that you can't see, but can power the entire planet.

[A]

So you think technology figures out technology?

[C]

Yeah, I mean there's, there is a lot of talk. Yeah. Our sole purpose, you know, our sole purpose as human beings is there's a reason why we're so passionate about creating things and yeah, materialism. Why is that? Why do I need to have the best car or whatever? We can't really explain. It is because we're, we're a creative creature. We're always building, we're always making the better thing, we always want the biggest thing. And supposedly maybe our purpose is to create AI and AI does its thing, maybe become self aware. Who knows, who knows where that goes. It is a really, really scary thing. But at the same time it's like, it's pretty, pretty impressive that like it's curing cancer in some cases and doing all these. It makes sense that that would be the next step for us.

[A]

Even recently, even AI in a short amount of time has gotten so much better.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Last year if I saw an AI video, even though it's close, I could look at that and be like, oh, that's an AI video. In the past couple months, I can no longer do That I can't even look at a video anymore and be certain what's real and not real anymore.

[C]

It's a, it's a risk because if we just let it go, it would just, I mean, I think we wouldn't be able to count the amount of numbers that it jumps in as far as how advanced it would get. But that's also letting the cat out of the bag. And, and, and we don't know what it's going to do. So it's, it's kind of a trust issue. Whatever. But that, that would be the next step. You know, maybe we plateau. I don't necessarily think that humans can because look how much we've done. Yeah. And we've been around supposedly a million years or maybe more.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I just think that AI will exponentially jump that even more and then who knows what will happen? 10 years.

[A]

Well, it's crazy. Just, it's just crazy to think about regardless of how long you think we've been here. Well, whether evolution says we've been here millions of years or you know, Christians in the Bible it says we've been a thousand thousands of years. Don't care. As far as this argument goes. Millions of thousands don't care. This is because this is the, the point is this. We went for a long, long, long time with really no advancements. We really think about it, just no advancements at all. The wheel.

[C]

Fire.

[A]

Fire. Legit. Yeah. You know, being able to channel water a little bit, a little bit on the weapon systems. We got a little bit better at it. But I mean just absolutely, the last hundred years has just been just astronomical, just astronomical compared to the rest of times. Like the rest of the time got about that much better regardless if you were born at the beginning of time or in the 1700s got about that much better. And then the last hundred years just, no pun intended, just, just skyrocketed. This is insane.

[C]

The 3D printing of stuff now the.

[B]

3D printing of suppressors, how long has.

[A]

That been going on?

[C]

Five years now.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. In fact they, you know, oddly enough, elevated silence is just about to do that titanium 3D printed silencer and I can't wait to shoot it. I love a titanium suppressor. I mean that weight is at the very end of your barrel. So. And just to have something I'm sure you have. You felt those titanium suppressors by chance. It's just ridiculous. They're ridiculously light. Just technology in every aspect. We can 3D print metal things now. It's just blows my mind but maybe I'm small minded.

[B]

You know, Brent, it's interesting that you brought that up at this episode because at the very beginning of the episode, the verse of the day was Daniel 12 verses 2 through 4, and it was written 500 years before Jesus. So it's 500 B.C. and it predicted the exact things that you're talking about. Right. It talks about how, you know, many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake and some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting content. So it talks about the end of the times and then it tells Daniel, Daniel, but shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. And it says, many will roam to and fro among the earth and knowledge will increase. And so that was written 500 years before Christ. That's the verse of the day. I brought that up before the show even began, so it's pretty interesting.

[A]

Thank you, Drew. All right, let's get to some super chats. Few more.

[B]

Super chatty user PO says the government is the problem. I like where he's going with it.

[A]

Oh, where's the. Let's get the.

[B]

The po.

[A]

The poll. Let's get the poll done.

[B]

Oh, why are you giving me this stupid window? Go away. Let's see. Please move. Do this in po. All right, there it is. Should voting be available to every American? 61% says no.

[A]

That's interesting to me actually. Did. Did you. Did you think that it was going to go that way? Wasn't even that close to 50? 50?

[C]

I did not. Because like I said once you. What you have is really hard to give up. And yes, people inherently believe that voting is a right that you have. And it's kind of. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. But that, that belief and, and with that you have and it's really hard to take back. Yeah, it's pretty interesting that the. They think actually. But now that you think about it, like all this talk about voting corruption and illegal immigrants and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Kind of makes sense now.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. In fact, before we go a whole lot further, just let's, let's go back to ig. Let's go see a King Picks video. I just, it's. It's do always, always need a little bit of a. Of a comedic break. Although the old guy doing AI was a pretty good comedic break in social.

[C]

Media content for about actually coming up.

[A]

On five years now. And I mean, honestly, the question that.

[C]

I get asked the most is about my mos.

[A]

Obviously, you know, I'M someone who's served.

[C]

In the military, and I continue to.

[A]

Serve in the military, but I'm frequently asked about my mosquitoes.

[C]

And it's important that I let you.

[A]

Guys finally know that I spent a.

[C]

Majority of my time as a sniper or designated marksman. I've seen a lot of crazy things.

[A]

I've seen.

[C]

I had a lot of dark times, missed a lot of shots.

[A]

You miss 100% of the shots that you don't take. I'm sure we've all heard that. But, yeah, majority of my time I've spent behind. Behind a gun and just taking out targets. It's kind of scary what some of these rounds will do to a person.

[C]

But it does more damage on the opposite side.

[A]

It does more damage on the other.

[C]

Side of the gun than it does on the other.

[A]

The other side. So I've been doing.

[B]

Well said every.

[A]

Every time. Yeah, that. That awkward video look back kind of reminds me of the office, you know, that. That. That type of cinematography. Oh, man. And he's subtle, but he's subtle with, like, the. The realities of.

[C]

He stumbles his words very well, like, other. The end of. But the other end, like, oh, that was flawless.

[A]

I don't know if he meant to do this, but just what's funny? And we've all seen it. We've all seen it. It was like, oh, what's my mos? He actually talks a lot about, like, his job and some cool things about his job, but he never actually says his mos.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And we see, like. I don't know what to call him. You know, just people who. We've all met him at bars who. Who talk. Who insinuate that they did more than they really did in the. In. In the military.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And they run into, you know, someone a little bit more knowledgeable, and you're like, oh, hey, what was your mos? And they'll just never come out and just say they're MOS because at that point, like, oh, well, I'm. I'm caught. I can't tell you my actual MOS because. Yeah, you can, because you'll know that I'm not who I said. So let's just talk about all the. Well, my. My MOS was one thing, but, you know, all these deployments, I had to do things. You know, all the.

[C]

I wasn't trained for it, but they were making me do it.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Yeah. Okay, just.

[A]

Just tell me your mos, buddy. And so he even. Even does that. He stumbles or he talks around his mos The. Of course, that is King Pix. Oh, thank you. That is King Pix Media. To me, the. The funniest veteran on. On the Internet. And regardless of what Rob o' Neill and Tim Kennedy want you to believe, we're not here just to tear down other vets. We do our best to promote other vets that deserve to be promoted, and he absolutely deserves it. So. You know, it's funny. I'm really bad. I can't tell people like, like and describe. Describe like and subscribe to my videos. No, but you know what? I can. I easily do tell you. Go to his. Please go to his and like and subscribe on his Instagram and his YouTube. In fact, go to his website, kingpicks media.com and it shows you everything that he does. And I promise you, if you need a laugh during the day, like all of us do, he'll. He'll get it for you. All right, back to super Chats.

[B]

All right, Joe Saunders. He says song for the end of the night would be Van Halen's Unchained.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Or we do a sing along to Sam and Dave's. Hold on, I'm coming. No jokes.

[A]

Van Halen is Van Halen. Okay.

[B]

Never go wrong.

[A]

I already got it. I already got it written down.

[B]

I did a Van Halen quote earlier in the chat.

[A]

What did you do?

[B]

Somebody said it was. They were late and I said, funny. I don't feel tardy.

[A]

Do you know what song that's from?

[C]

No.

[A]

You want to send it? You got it. That's funny. I don't feel tardy. No one in this room.

[B]

You're not hot for. You're not hot for teacher.

[A]

Oh, the very beginning of it. Yeah. All right, I got you.

[B]

Let's see. Six's mom says. Okay, Brant, we all needed an uplift this clips to Christmas. Let's do Iz's Somewhere over the Rainbow. What a wonderful World. Aloha from Cowie.

[A]

Oh, look at that. Let's see. Is it going to be enough?

[B]

20 bucks.

[A]

Oh, we're in a Deftones somewhere with a rainbow tie.

[C]

All right, let's play them at the same time.

[B]

Back to back.

[C]

No, no. Over top of each other.

[A]

That's right. Just right over top of each other.

[B]

They'll blame that on me. Let's see.

[A]

Oh, man. All right.

[B]

Thirsty salt. Once AI solves the main obstacles of quantum computing, especially heat dissipation, will have computers 100 times more powerful than a smartphone and the size of a penny.

[C]

Yeah, and it's funny enough that the heat is the problem. Yeah, heat is the problem. If you go to places like Texas, they have a lot of these farming places and stuff, and the matter. The amount of cooling systems they need for that stuff is pretty crazy. But it's. It's crazy that, like, it's not the technology, it's a heat problem.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Quantum mechanics. It's crazy stuff.

[A]

So you're telling me if we can go into global cooling and we'll. We'll solve our. Our technology problem?

[C]

Yeah, we just take everything to Antarctica. Just send it super sweet.

[B]

Let's see. TB says. Here's some beer money, boys. This question is a 20 year debate between me and my brother. Who wins in a fight, a Kodiak brown bear or a Siberian tiger? I go with the brown bear.

[A]

I. I have. Oddly enough, I immediately had an answer to that. Do you have where. What is. Where was a bear logo of yours and a. In a military unit?

[C]

Not for me.

[A]

That's okay. All right. Just making sure there wasn't any bias there. Okay.

[C]

I'm gonna go with the tiger.

[A]

You're going tiger?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Amanda. Doesn't matter. Devin, did you hear. You didn't hear the question, Drew.

[B]

I'm going with the agility of a tiger.

[A]

Are you?

[B]

Get on the back of that sucker.

[A]

I'm immediately thinking bear. For whatever reason, I'm like, it's just too power, too powerful.

[B]

Can't move around.

[A]

Yeah, I'm. I'm going. I mean, just g. Give me a. Just a small donation back just because I want to hear back from you. What was. What did you think it was? I. I hope you said bear, because you'd be right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, you guys give us enough super chats and we'll get those animals. We'll put them in a cage. All right, get those. Keep those super chats coming. We got content. Oh, man.

[A]

I won't have a problem with that at all.

[B]

We're gonna get to the bottom of this.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sure there's a Kodiak bear and a Siberian titan in Texas right now.

[A]

Get them together. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's like that peanut butter and chocolate problem. You got chocolate on my peanut butter. Two neighbors, one has a bear. They don't know each other. They just gotta meet.

[B]

All right, David Hookstead in the house.

[A]

Ah.

[B]

David Hookstead says just showing for CCTs as former CCT Dan Schilling, battle of Mogadishu veteran, says no person on the battlefield in history can bring more power. Fusing the air and the men on the ground than a CCT.

[A]

Thank you. I believe that statement 100%. So we'll talk about like, you know, what do we call about the force? Multipliers.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No greater. I can bring 100 men, you know, with me to the battlefield. And as a Green Beret, as a force multiplier, my 10 guys can bring 100 more little brown guys that don't shoot as well, who will probably run away when things get. When things get real hairy. Or you could stack three, four, five, six aircraft.

[C]

The devil.

[A]

Just a dabble, right. And would be the equivalent of a thousand men. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, that's, that's true. You know, battlefield power.

[C]

We, we have that example in Syria at some point with some mercenaries and some Americans. It didn't end well. It was not a good one.

[A]

Correct. Even besides that, there's. Hey, guess what? There's nothing I can do. That's a show of force. I can't, I can't run my little army in front of them and make them. And make them get scared and go away. But, but you know what you can do? You, you. You can drop that badass piece of American muscle machinery about 300ft off the deck and scare the out of them.

[C]

B1 Supersonic show of force.

[A]

Those show of forces. Nothing was cool in a show of force, and they just are. They're super, super cool.

[C]

Yeah. But you have to maintain your cool because all the indig are looking at you. You just want to like, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Nothing says that's what we did.

[C]

Like, well, this is.

[A]

We're American. You're not like bringing like, bringing down American air superiority right off the deck to flaunt it in their face and be like, you sure about that? Be sure about that.

[C]

So Dan Schilling movie Black Hawk down. Right. When the first casualty, Blackburn, falls out the bird.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They split off those Humvees and at some point the lead 50 gunner gets hit. And then in the movie, it's hoot. That takes the 50 cal. Right?

[A]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It was actually Dan Schilling that did that.

[A]

Oh, really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, man, that's awesome.

[C]

And I don't know why they mentioned Wilkie in the movies.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Wilkinson, he was a pj. But they didn't. They didn't. For whatever reason, I think it was the Air Force's fault. They didn't want to. They didn't mention any Air Force guys in there, minus Tim Wilkinson. But. But it was. He just looked like one of the army guys, so.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And.

[A]

And some of that is, you know, from talking actually to some of the guys that, that were a part of that. And they. I get. I'm not mad about that. I mean, they, they didn't. They didn't play it as a documentary, you know, however, it was very close to combat, like how they portrayed combat. But, you know, they. I get it. They still have to do, like, you know, character development, and it wasn't a documentary, so I get it.

[C]

But, you know, and that's why you have heartthrobs like Josh Hartnett calling airstrikes.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, Drew, before you do go to. Go to your. Go to your. Your camera, please. Hey, right. Right behind Drew is some artwork done. And I just want to say thank you to this girl, to Chloe. Her Instagram handle is Chloe Bakersfield. That's C H L O E Chloe Bakersfield. And she is a Down syndrome young lady and the sweetest girl in the world. And she's the one who paints those for us and sends them down. And her parents are part of whf, the Wounded Heroes Fund, that out of Bakersfield that I've gone down to the last two years and been a speaker at their event. And that's how they pay me when they ask, hey, do you want to come? You know, what do you need? And I just say, hey, have Chloe paint me something. And that's. That's what she does. And that. That's. That's where we get those from. So go follow her on. On IG and show her some love and, I don't know, pay her a lot of money. Have her paint you something really cool.

[B]

Love it. All right. Backman Union. $10. Thank you for the love. He says, continue the content. He's got the idea. Thank you. Couldn't do it without you.

[A]

He gets it.

[B]

He gets it. My windows just flashed.

[A]

What have you done? Oh, you fixed it.

[B]

The user. I don't think that's very nice. User.yd3rz. All right. I guess he did a face plan on the keyboard. Who wins? Who wins in a foot race? Fred lathered up in coconut oil or Brent lathered up in motor oil?

[A]

Not sure either. The oils is a deciding factor.

[C]

I think coconut oil would be a lot more slick. I think you maintain its grip on me a lot longer so that I'd be a lot slippier, whereas the oil would just come right off of you.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Stupid question. That was easy.

[A]

Wasn't expecting that one.

[B]

Fred, next time you come to Florida, we might have a race, right? I'm going to do that one.

[A]

Nothing would be worse than on video having two old retired tier one operators pull a hamstring on video.

[C]

I come back with two broken kneecaps.

[B]

You both run on a. On slip and slides on your own Slip and slide.

[C]

But I was right. I was right I was going to lose because the coconut oil. Broken kneecaps, but I was right. Just make sure there's.

[A]

No, don't, don't. There's a tank. There's a taint joke there. What? It's almost fully recovered. Every now and again, I make the right movement. Fred, I don't know if you knew this, but I recently I. I pulled my tank muscle, okay? But it's been a slow recovery. And oddly enough, every now and again, I do a certain move and I can still. And I can still feel it. And I'm like. It's not like it's about to tear again, but just a slight reminder that, hey, I'm not. I'm not 100 there. Like, that's crazy. That's been that long. It's still. I'm still not 100% tank. Never gonna be 100.

[B]

There it is. There. There he is.

[C]

No bore. I.

[B]

All right. 1st Samuel 16:7 with half a C note. Thank you, brother. Hello, Drew. Brent and crew came in for a few minutes. I had free, so there was a tie. Fred.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Choose which song this goes towards.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

Please and thank you. Good night. So 50 bucks to Fred for the sweet.

[C]

Appreciate it.

[A]

All right, Fred's up. Now be quiet and drive. Standing by that, all right?

[C]

Affirmative.

[B]

And yes, our favorite Texas buddy. Much different. Much different from the congressman.

[A]

He misspelled his own name.

[B]

Oh, Bo.

[A]

And he misspelled old. Yeah, he's just ole. Bu. We got.

[C]

We got content.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I didn't think you'd ever top Marika.

[B]

All right. Oh, Bo, the great state of Texas coming. Great state of Texas with a great amount of super chat, man. Thank you for the love, brother. Merry Christmas. The only animal that matters. The southern Mississippi gator Snapper.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Love the show. And Devin the Gorgeous.

[A]

The gorgeous. Is that how you read that last word?

[B]

Drew and Devin, the Gorgias Gor. The Georgia.

[A]

The Georgius from Jorge Usas from old Hol Bux. All right, if you guys don't know that is Darren Boheeler, Old Bo, if you will, from episode one, Our very first guest on the tier one podcast, which. Which. It's the live. It's. It's time to bring these things up. Who Worse Episode number one, guest Number one, where's. Where's slides to the episode and you can see. You can see his big digits down there during the whole episode. And Devin. Devin wanted me to name that episode Bo's Toes. And I wanted. I wanted to name it Bo Stove in the worst way. But I couldn't name episode one of my podcast, Bose Toes.

[C]

But I wanted to like Blues Clues.

[A]

He was a great guest and it was a great episode.

[B]

All right, do you want to do this or not?

[A]

Sure. You know, only because I cannot stand this person so much. I know it's time to go. And I. I unfortunately have to let Fred go at some point, but just not yet, because I want to hear this. Who shouldn't have a right to vote but does. Let's see what she has to say. Hundred police officers resigned this year, a record. Number. One of the main reasons they gave is supposedly inhumane overtime hours due to these protests. So just to take a temperature check, how many of y' all would come out on Christmas day and ruin their Christmas? So if y' all are down, we're gonna take over Christmas and New Year's too.

[B]

We're not gonna let these cops, these.

[A]

Politicians, these ignorant people, these media companies enjoy these holidays. Christmas is get.

[C]

Oh, dude, that's. That's my line.

[A]

Wait a minute. That was fought. That yelled Christmas is canceled. Yeah, Christmas is canceled.

[C]

That's actually my best friend's good one liner right before he throws a grenade.

[A]

Christmas is canceled.

[C]

No, he said that. I love that grenade.

[A]

Oh, so that's that. That beautiful young woman who's so kind and soft spoken and open minded and gentle. Said nobody ever is.

[B]

And well informed.

[A]

Well informed, not ignorant, she said, is old Zoron's ally. And Nean Kiswani. So what a. What a gentle creature.

[B]

She got Nerd in the name.

[A]

And so it's. And so obviously, if you can't tell, that's because of the Zoron thing. That is New York. That is New York City. You can see all the Shaws on their head. That's just more Islam preaching. Croatian. They're Croatian. And it's never. I'm just. I'm just tired of it. It's just never a positive thing. What? What is?

[C]

I wonder if we canceled Ramadan. How awesome that would be right for them.

[A]

You beat me to it. You beat me to it. They're so quick to. On everything this country stands for. But if you do something to them and something they believe, guess what? They'd burn this Bible in a heartbeat and laugh in your face. If I burn their Quran, they'd lose their minds and they'll crap all over Christmas. Ramadan is holy. Don't you, don't you dare say or do anything against it.

[C]

Cancel Ramadan. And we'd block every Starbucks in the next 20 square kilometers and ruin their days.

[A]

Or as I like to call it, Ramadama Ding dong is what I believe it should now only be referred to. I looked a little bit in this woman, of course, because she's a despicable person. She's also anti Israel and pro Palestine. Really. Now, I'll tell you this. And I'm just. I am a big believer in this, you know, ever since doing the Dan Bilzerian episode. And he had a lot of things to say that was anti Jew. I didn't. The comments irritate the crap out of me. Like, well, Dan won this debate. Why didn't go there to debate Dan. I went there to interview Dan. It wasn't. It wasn't a debate. But if someone wants to have a conversation with me, I'll have a conversation with him. And he's clearly like, he is very educated in that particular topic. And he does bring up some things that are concerning. And I don't have anyone. I'm not against anyone that brings up certain things that, hey, this data point or true data points? And it's concerning. And is this best for America? I will listen to. To that. I really will. And we can have dialogue. But the comment section, let me tell you right off the bat, if you. This is just how. How. How I perceive things. If you want me to believe in your cause, show me the people that are that. That surround your cause and the comment section that are. That are anti Jew. I'm just telling you right now, they're very. They're very, you know, somewhat professional way to say this.

[B]

You can do it.

[A]

But they're. They're just very. Give me a better word to say.

[C]

Visceral. Angry.

[A]

Yeah, sure, we don't. Don't. Don't spike the football on me. But by showing how much better your brain's working than mine. Okay. By showing me two words. Yeah, but I asked for one word.

[C]

No, but the camera wasn't focused on either. So I'm sitting there like, interesting. But at the same time, I'm like, oh, visceral.

[A]

There they are. They're visceral, they're nasty, they're angry. And if you have the facts on your side, and I'm not saying whether you do or you don't, yes. There are some things I will agree with. There are some things that we should probably look into. I never have a problem with someone bringing up points to say, hey, this. What do you think about this? And if I don't have an answer for you, I better go find an answer.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And just because I don't like what you say doesn't mean it's not true. That's just, that's just. That's just being overly emotional. And that's for. That's for people who are. Want to be wrong and women. That's what that's for.

[B]

Man. The other thing bothers me about this stuff is, like, you wanted everybody in, especially in the chats and stuff. Sometimes they'll say, well, this is the minority. You know, this isn't. This isn't all. They don't represent all of Islam. Well, that's true. That's a true statement. My thing is, if. If there is a wonderful American, peaceful majority of Muslims in New York, where are they to.

[A]

That's right. To counter this.

[B]

Yeah, counter this. Where's their protest? Say, hey, you don't represent us. That's not how we feel. Where are all of those. If these are just the extreme minorities.

[A]

That'S a great point. You'll. You'll never see them, which, which, which means two things. They're either really not the minority, that there's a lot more of them than, Than. Than we even realized, or they actually agree with you, which kind of goes hand in hand with. With my first point. You're quiet about it because you agree with them. Like, you can't have it both ways. So, you know, it just goes back to, you know, my point a little bit earlier. Like, there's so many nasty comments, and they're. And they just, They've stuck with me for a little bit, like, oh, Brent got his $7,000. He's maintained he loves the Jews. Like, it's all this really negative, visceral stuff when you. I don't care what side of the argument when you're on, but when you start talking to people like that, even if you have the facts on your side, I don't want to be a part of your side. I don't want to be a part of it.

[C]

Yeah. Problem is, is not enough people are getting punched in the face anymore. Quite honestly, it is funny.

[B]

I'm making a T shirt, but it's true.

[C]

Like a good one. Uncle friend says it would take one time to do something like that on the Internet to make one silly comment that you're very passionate about and whatever. And it takes one time to get your face pushed in, and you're like, maybe I'm wrong, or maybe I need to reconsider this, or maybe I shouldn't even say that there's just Isn't enough, that there's. It's free reign on the Internet and no one gets. There's no danger to. To saying, you know, spicy things or whatever.

[A]

Just a little bit longer. I actually wasn't going to bring this up. I don't. I don't care. I've been watching Love is Blind. Who wouldn't? It's a reality TV show that we're.

[C]

Gonna wait until the end, but you're actually cheap. Threw your name in.

[A]

I was. It's a reality TV show that was my idea to watch wank. But like. Like any stupid reality TV show, and I do hate this to some degree, it's why I don't watch them, because everyone does love drama to some degree.

[C]

And if you.

[A]

And if you watch them, then you get sucked into it, and then you care about it, and now you're wasting time watching things you don't want to watch. But here I am. Devin's great. She never makes me watch things I don't want to watch. But every now and again, if she suggests something, it's usually because it's pretty good. Hey, it's the same. It's the whole reason I got even got to watch Love on the Spectrum. And I'll stand by that one. That's a good show.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

That's a good show. And so she has that in. In her history of saying, hey, you should watch this stupid reality TV show I watched that ended up loving it. She suggests this one. And now. Now I'm emotionally involved in this. Okay, so the premise is this. At first, you can't see each other, and you have to fall in love with someone just based on, you know, conversations behind another wall. And. And I'm. I hate to say I'm gonna explain a little bit, and I'm sure there's plenty of listeners out here that watched it. They're like, you don't have to explain it. We were. But if you didn't watch it, and then after you decide that, hey, like, I actually fell in love with this person that I've never even seen just based off their personality, then they go back to their hometown, and within a couple weeks, they have to decide whether to get married or not. So I don't know how many people Joined this experiment right off the beginning. 16 on each. She knows 16. 16 on each. Oh, 32. So 32 total people. 16 and 16. They got down to four couples that actually made it all the way to the aisle to. To getting married within. Never seeing each other, accepting an engagement, and then seeing each other a couple weeks and getting married. And to me, I thought that was crazy. Right off the bat, I was like, for sure, four people are willing to get married essentially for someone they never at least said yes to an engagement and they never met and they could say no after they met them. But the. When four people. When four couples. Thank you. When four couples go to the altar, three of them say no on the altar after they already went to their bachelor party, bachelorette party, picked out wedding dresses, picked out suits. One even signed a prenup. So you would think after all this, like, they're going to say yes. Three of them decide to say no. Three women, and they're all women. One gets married and they look. They look crazy. Happily married and I'm. I'm rooting for them. But of the three couples that didn't make it, all three were women that said no at the altar and left these guys hanging. But that. The crazy part about it is their reasons for saying no to these guys had nothing to do with. I didn't think this guy would be loyal to me. I didn't think this guy was going to treat me right. I didn't think this guy could provide for me. It was nothing about that. One didn't like his straight up. His political views. Well, in fact, it was two of them, basically. All three. Heck, just cutting the chase. All three. All three of them, for the most part, just said, hey, he's not. He's not Pro lgbtq plus elementop Divisional minus sign for me. And. And one. One said, like, he's not enough in the Black Lives Matter for me. One said, I don't like the way he voted. It was just all liberal women. And here's what's crazy. It's not like these men were like, ultra conservative. Almost every one of those men were like, it's not that big of a deal to me. Like, like, what do you think about. Yeah, lesbians. He's like, don't give it a lot of thought. It's not that big. So it's not like they were even, like, at odds together. They were just upset that they weren't gonna.

[C]

They didn't make their life.

[A]

That's right. That they weren't gonna put a rally together. Over it. It was just crazy to me. Absolutely crazy. And then when you go to the reunion and they, you know, they. They kind of talk about all these things. These women are berating these men and they're like, you haven't grown as a human enough. Like, you're not smart enough, you're not intelligent enough, you're not open enough. And they're just braiding them. And I couldn't help but think, like, there's just no world we live in where the reverse is true. There's no world and we live in where a man looks at a girl and says, hey, you're too liberal and you have no growth. Because if you're pretty dim, if you're liberal, like, you're not that smart if you're pro gay, just no world that lives in. But the audience is sitting there clapping for these women and they're just berating these men. And like I said, the irony is the men weren't even anti anything. They just didn't care. They were just about the centrist. They just didn't care.

[C]

The criticism is that they're not that open, whatever. But they're. The men were the ones saying, yeah, sure, I'll go to this rally or whatever. And they're the ones saying, like, you aren't enough for me. Right. Like, wait, what?

[A]

I know. And. And of course, it's in a weird way, it's such a short exposure time frame. Like, some of those couples, I was like, they look like they really do love each other. They should get married. And then after finding all that at the end, I'm like, oh, man, did you dodge a bullet, buddy? Yeah, I know it hurt to get walked away from at the altar, but buddy, you dodged a bullet. And there's a reason you should probably know someone for longer than five weeks before you get married, or you better have some really tough conversations really early on. But it was just, it was just crazy to me. It's really crazy of how opinionated those women are.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And in a weird way, like how weak the men are. Like, I just, I'm not, I'm not saying anything bad against a man that's. That's centrist like that. But I'm just saying if women can get that opinion about what, what's right and wrong. I don't, I don't know why, why is. It would be massage. It would be they're a strong, independent woman when they have those views. But let's say someone was dumb enough to let me on that show. Like, like what do you think about Black Lives Matter? I'm like, stupid.

[C]

Not.

[A]

Not a fan. Like, okay, well, like, what do you. What do you think about transgenders? Stupid, not a fan.

[C]

Are you asking about how much money I make or if I have a stable household or I would just be.

[A]

Called a misogynist and, you know, in every name in the book. Yeah, but. But just because I'm anti. But they can be pro that. And they're. And they're brave.

[C]

Yeah. They have a stable job. Do I have a 401k? Do I have anything going? No. You're asking about my political views, my social economical. What. What are we talking about?

[A]

And, and oddly enough, this is going to be a little bit crazy to say, but I actually do believe as political as I like to be, I don't, I don't think your political views. And unless you're on. Unless you're on very, very, like, fringe parts of the spectrum, I don't think your political views are that big of a deal when it comes to your compatibility. No, I just, I. I just, like, there's there's other, there's other things, like. And again, that depends on the person and depends on how. How rigid your. Your beliefs are. But it just, It's a little bit sad because some of them, I think, missed out on some really, really good dudes.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

I mean, and they're not going to find another one and, and office. Just some petty stuff.

[C]

One of my favorite videos out there is one where a husband and wife are face to face. The husband is a police officer, I think this is in Italy. And the wife is one of the protesters. And he's wearing. He's wearing the face shield and everything. And his wife is right up in his face smiling the whole time saying whatever they're saying, whatever the protest is. And I love that. And there was. I mean it. She's doing the protest, but there's no anger, animosity. He actually, at one point, like, can't take. And he starts smiling.

[A]

I love that story.

[C]

That's perfect.

[A]

I'm glad we talked about that. Just for that story. I love that story.

[C]

It's all over the place. I'm sure you can find it. But. But yeah, your political views. Like, you know, I can't count how many couples from my dad's generations that we know. Like, so my best friend's dad, and they're. That, that the, the father was, you know, a little bit right of, you know, middle. So he's a little more conservative. And the mom was a little bit liberal and they fucking made it. Somehow. Somehow they made it for 30, 40, 50 years.

[A]

Let me tell you, to some degree, like I said, you have to take out the. The extremes on both side, but if you have logical people on. On both sides, it's. That's the yin and yang of. Of life. Like, the men should be a little bit more logical. The men should make decisions that are a little bit more ones and zeros and just, hey, this is what's best, regardless. And women should be most more emotional about it. And women should say and argue that back to us and be like, well, hey, yes, this is. This is like what's absolutely right. I get it. But like, this. These are the people that. That affects, and you need to know that. And, and no one side is completely right.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's. And that's the balance of life. And I'll listen to you and you listen to me, and we'll meet somewhere in the middle and we'll do what's best for everyone.

[C]

It's kind of crazy that, like, it's.

[A]

Kind of like we're missing that politically.

[C]

That way somehow, like, men were designed a certain way, and somehow when we come together for the wonderful things happen, it's kind of crazy.

[A]

That's right. And that's why men can't be women and women can't be men. And that works both at the political level.

[C]

Social.

[A]

Yeah. At a relationship level. That's what works. And we've just gotten so polarized. It. This is. This is a society. We've gotten off of that. And I. I think this just. And I also think, really, if we talked more about it, we just. We've just shut down dialogue. Yeah. So quick. And if we talked more about it and had if. And if the other side, who claims to have an open mind, if they'd have a little bit more of an open mind about it, they'd find out, hey, well, we actually agree on about 80 or 90% of the things. Let's just focus on that.

[C]

It's the classic, you know, watching Band of Brothers. And one of the guys is saying, like, you know, I could have been really good friends with some of these German soldiers. Like, we could have. We probably both love fishing and whatever, you know, this, this is not talking. This is not engaging with humans. Yeah. Even talking on the phone is not talking. That this, this is Right. Talking in conversation. Like, you get the full view.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I see your facial spray. I can tell you're passionate about this thing. I could tell you're serious about this thing. That, that is conversation. And so, like, I, I had this talk with my wife all the time. Like, if it's serious, I'm not doing this.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think that's completely disrespectful to you. I want to hear what you have to say. Yeah, I think what you have to say is important. I love that this isn't the way to do it.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, it's powerful to finish it out. What we got in super chats, Drew.

[B]

We got one less one here. We got right wing nut says Bazarian is far from smart. Israel are the children of God, period.

[A]

Well, I, I believe the second half, but the first half truly is. Dan was area. And really, he, he is a smart man. And I, I, I, I do respect him. Like, he's not. You want to go in there and you really want to. If you truly wanted to debate with them, you better come prepared because, because he is. And, and I respect that.

[C]

Just because you don't like what he says and, and I'm there with you on some things. I don't like what he says on some things. It doesn't mean that he's not smart. I can clearly tell that the guy is pretty smart.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, he really was.

[B]

All right, well, the chats are asking for a funny story.

[A]

From Drew.

[B]

Oh, yeah, you gotta watch the, you gotta watch the chats. You gotta watch the Fred episode when it comes out.

[C]

Yeah, I did my funny.

[B]

Yeah, he did his funny.

[A]

Yeah, it's funny because I've, I've been really bad at remembering or doing that. And I did it for that episode. And by the way, we're. Oh, my gosh. I don't know if I've, if I've said this. Now I have to tell everyone I accidentally deleted the Kyle Morgan and Jared Taylor episode. Just two episodes completely gone. I deleted them from my computer. Like, there's a better explanation of that on accident. But that's obviously, that is the short story. Yeah. On accident.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so they're gonna be like, well, why did he do that?

[B]

No, he didn't do it on purpose.

[A]

So that's. So we were behind on episodes. So we'll drop this Monday, So you guys will get to see Fred's whole story on Monday. And his funny story. And his funny story. So I won't make you wait that long.

[C]

It's a good one. You'll like it.

[A]

Ah, made me laugh. Made me laugh.

[C]

It's embarrassing. I didn't like talking about it.

[A]

All right. What do we got here? Deaf tones. Be quiet and drive. Let's go. Now, this is the point in the show that we. We don't necessarily make super chats. Any chats can be read. So as I'm looking for this all the way through the song. Fred, be kind to the chat section.

[C]

Oh, I can't see that far. Someone read for me. Someone pick this up.

[A]

Okay, hold on. I gotcha. Just take me a second to get the. The song up and going. Deftones. Be quiet and drive. And of course, I'll probably play an ad right in there in the beginning of it. That's where we'll get through it.

[C]

My man can't get it up and like, man, get that off of there.

[A]

Are you. Are you on the Bluetooth? Okay, thank you. Right, enhance.

[B]

So while this silence is going. Brent, you. You talked about these ladies being strong, independent women. Women. I. I saw this on the Internet. I liked it. It said women are called strong, independent women. But you never hear anybody say strong, independent man. It's just called adulting. Quit giving your.

[A]

Is. Isn't that the truth? My gosh. Yeah.

[B]

If you want equal treatment, quit giving yourself from a single.

[C]

Right?

[A]

Who. I've never once heard it. That's a strong, independent man right there. So that just sounds weird.

[C]

What's the opposite of a strong, independent anything? It's just dead, you know, like, if you're not strong and independent, then you're.

[A]

Either dead or a child. Right. Children aren't strong or independent. Like any adult. You shouldn't have. Any adult should never have the words strong and independent. Yeah, like, if that's. If that should be insinuated. If you have to be told. If you have to be told that that's not a good thing.

[B]

You have to tell people that.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Any man has to tell himself that they're the king. Surely is not the king.

[A]

All right, here we go. And for those who can't read that far, I'm closer. I gotcha. The JT tease was funny. Yeah. Unfortunately, Chris, it'll only be a tease because I deleted the episode.

[C]

It happens.

[A]

But. But thankfully, I got the between two guns out of it. We're blaming Drew. Way to have extreme accountability. Yeah, yeah, let's. I don't care what Jocko says. Ever since he quietly deleted the Tim Kennedy episode podcast. Yeah, there. You do not have extreme accountability, sir.

[C]

He didn't say anything about it.

[A]

Didn't say anything about it. Wow.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Davis. Brookshire. Brookshire. You fancy man. The Brent Ever worth with Matt Pranka. Well, as fancy as your name sounds, I believe you tried to say work with Matt Pranka. Yes, I did. Yeah. We were on the same team for a few years. Of course, 0811 US USMC would love Deftones because you're a Marine and you, Alex Scott just wrote lmao. Wow. What a strong, independent man. Yeah. No one never, ever say that about me. It better be insinuated. The Third Coast Cowboy. My favorite green Gorette is Brent Tucker. I'm up. I'm uploading my very first episode. Like. Like in the middle of the night, like 2am, 3am And I misspelled the episode title Legendary Green Beret. And his dog was supposed to be the. The title. Yeah, and I spelled Legendary Green Gorette. Green Gorette Green. Yeah, and his dog. And it'll haunt me for the rest of my podcasting career.

[C]

Is it still up there?

[A]

No, I changed the. It. I changed it. But. But you'll see that. You'll see. Yeah, well, I should have just owned it. I couldn't have a misspelling of my very first episode. Although I did for a little bit. But if you ever see a comment in the comment section goes, ah, Brett's my favorite Green Gorette there. That's where that comes from. And I deserve it. And I just. I'm not even mad about it. Like. Like, I get it. I deserve it.

[C]

Just own it. Don't get old. No one talk about it.

[A]

The. Let's see. Fred, are you going to go on any other podcasts or interviews soon? That's a good question. I don't know. Okay.

[C]

I didn't know it's coming on here until a couple weeks ago.

[A]

Yeah, all right. That was from late Adrian. Mountain Music Radio says, blame it on Google Autocorrect. That's what I do. Yeah, that's what I do, too.

[C]

What is a Garrette? I got to look that up.

[A]

Well, it's not a beret. Like, I tried. Like, I tried to write. Tell you what, it's not behind. It's behind two guns. Between two guns. More of that? Yeah, we actually have a few more episodes of that already in the hopper. All right, see if there's anything more. Fred, we need more Instagram. You've been doing Instagram lives by chance?

[C]

I haven't. Not in a long time.

[A]

But you used to. Oh, they want more of that.

[C]

It was just me getting drunk on the back porch, talking about whatever guys.

[A]

Wanted to talk about. We'll do. We could do that tonight. We got cigars in the And. And the garage cigars.

[C]

That stuff was fun. It was. It was a nice therapy session for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It was like, I will have all these things I think about all day, and no one's weird enough to hear what I have to say.

[A]

What's. What's your Instagram handle?

[C]

Counting coup. Tactical with underscores in between.

[A]

Okay. Between the words. Yeah. All right. There you go. If you want. If you want more of old grumpy Uncle Uncle Fred, that's. That's where you can find a lovable guy.

[C]

I used to be funny, sarcastic, all the things.

[A]

Ah, well, Fred's hung out with us basically all day between the recording and, you know, the break between the live and now the live. I. I love it when we have a guest like you on the live. It makes the live that much better. And you didn't disappoint. This is. I had a great time on this live. Thanks for coming on, brother man.

[C]

Absolutely. Thanks for having me.

[A]

Absolutely. Thank you, guys. See you next time. We'll see you next Thursday night, actually. Get some bourbon. And the bucks are up 20 to 14 with 15 minutes left. We'll be watching the Bucks. Fourth quarter. Get.

[C]

Move outside.

[A]

Let's go outside.