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In this episode, we sit down with Admiral Mike Rogers, former Director of the National Security Agency (NSA) and Commander of U.S. Cyber Command, for a rare, wide-ranging conversation on how the world is changing, and what actually matters now.Mike shares what he learned from nearly four decades at the highest levels of military, intelligence, and government leadership, including working under both President Obama and President Trump. But this isn’t just a conversation about power or national security. We also talk about love, relationships, and the personal tradeoffs that come with ambition: why success without meaning is empty, how leaders should think about partnership and family, and what really lasts when titles, money, and influence fade.This episode is about leadership in every sense of the word: - What leadership looks like when the stakes are highest- How global cyber risk and AI affect everyday people- Why integrity is the non-negotiable trait of great leaders- How to communicate effectively with radically different decision-makers- National security vs. privacy — why it’s not a binary choice- What the private sector and government misunderstand about each other- Why love, not power or money, is the ultimate long-term investment🐯👯♀️ We’re the Tiger Sisters — Your Wall Street & Silicon Valley big sistersDecoding Money • Power • Love✨ New episodes every Monday | Shorts all week ✨💌 Want to partner with us?Sponsorships: partnerships@tigersisters.coTimestamps:1:16 Is the NSA listening to our conversation?1:38 You need integrity as the foundation3:38 He became a 4-star military admiral 6:18 How to make decisions when there's no "right" answer?7:25 Differences in working with President Obama vs. Trump14:09 Are politics & business just pre-orchestrated?17:58 Which is more important? National security or privacy?20:51 Cybersecurity in the US government29:58 Admiral Mike talks about love36:56 Wrap up with Mike Rogers▫️ Cherie Brooke Luo — 100M+ views demystifying tech, finance & MBAs▫️ Jean Luo — ex-Goldman Sachs, ex-Snapchat exec, 50+ AI patents, startup investor▫️ Together: 4 Ivy League degrees • built billion-dollar products • two startups — decoded for you▫️ 🚀 Ivy League cheat sheets — no $250K tuition▫️ Personal finance playbooks (salary, investing, negotiation)▫️ Networking scripts behind $100M+ deals & job offers▫️ Real talk with CEOs, operators & founders▫️ Mindset resets — clarity without the pricey coach▫️ Lifestyle, wellness & productivity systems that actually work💛 LET’S CONNECT~ CHERIE ~Instagram: /cherie.brookeTikTok: /cherie.brookeSubstack: cherieluo.substack.comLinkedIn: /cherie-luo~ JEAN ~Instagram: /jeanluo_LinkedIn: /jeanluo👉 Hit Subscribe & tap the 🔔, then leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review on Spotify & Apple Podcasts. It takes 10 seconds and makes a massive difference in helping new people discover Tiger Sisters.🛍️ Items:🍵 Sisters Matcha — www.sistersmatcha.com🌀 Everything else — https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b

In this Tiger Sisters episode, Jean and Cherie revisit one of the most shared conversations in our community: how to stop settling without blowing up your entire life. This episode is both a mirror and a roadmap — designed to help you get honest with yourself, listen to your body, and make intentional decisions about the year ahead.We’re bringing this episode back because this is the exact moment people quietly lock in another year of a life that feels… fine. And you deserve more than fine.We share:✅ The simple question that reveals whether you’re settling✅ Why your body knows the answer before your brain does✅ How to get honest with yourself without burning everything down✅ Why “stop settling” applies to careers, relationships, and identity✅ How small decisions today quietly shape your next year✅ Why this episode resonated so deeply with our audience🐯👯♀️ We’re the Tiger Sisters — Your Wall Street & Silicon Valley big sistersDecoding Money • Power • Love✨ New episodes every Monday | Shorts all week ✨💌 Want to partner with us?Sponsorships: partnerships@tigersisters.coTimestamps:2:10 Same job, same relationship patterns, same life4:05 Why most people avoid answering this honestly6:30 Don’t answer with logic — notice your body’s response9:15 This episode is a mirror, not a judgment11:40 Why “stop settling” doesn’t mean blowing up your life14:20 The quiet decisions that lock in another year17:05 Why this conversation resonated so deeply19:45 How to create change without chaos22:10 This applies to career, love, and identity24:50 The cost of staying comfortable27:10 What to do if you’re scared but know it’s time29:10 Final reflection: choosing yourselfhttps://cherieluo.substack.com/▫️ Cherie Brooke Luo — 100M+ views demystifying tech, finance & MBAs▫️ Jean Luo — ex-Goldman Sachs, ex-Snapchat exec, 50+ AI patents, startup investor▫️ Together: 4 Ivy League degrees • built billion-dollar products • two startups — decoded for you▫️ 🚀 Ivy League cheat sheets — no $250K tuition▫️ Personal finance playbooks (salary, investing, negotiation)▫️ Networking scripts behind $100M+ deals & job offers▫️ Real talk with CEOs, operators & founders▫️ Mindset resets — clarity without the pricey coach▫️ Lifestyle, wellness & productivity systems that actually work💛 LET’S CONNECT~ CHERIE ~Instagram: /cherie.brookeTikTok: /cherie.brookeSubstack: cherieluo.substack.comLinkedIn: /cherie-luo~ JEAN ~Instagram: /jeanluo_LinkedIn: /jeanluo👉 Hit Subscribe & tap the 🔔, then leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review on Spotify & Apple Podcasts. It takes 10 seconds and makes a massive difference in helping new people discover Tiger Sisters.🎵 Music: Sammy Signal🛍️ Items:🍵 Sisters Matcha — www.sistersmatcha.com🌀 Everything else — https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b

Most people think career success is ALL about working harder. It’s not. It’s also about how you’re perceived, how you communicate, and whether the right people see your value. And no one is taught these rules.In this remix episode of Tiger Sisters with Lorraine K. Lee and Leah Wyar, we bring together two of our most impactful conversations to break down the invisible dynamics that determine who gets promoted, trusted, and listened to at work.Executive presence expert Lorraine K. Lee explains how body language, communication, and visibility quietly shape credibility. Media and Entertainment Leader Leah pulls back the curtain on what actually happens inside organizations — the politics, the pressure of climbing, and the emotional labor no one prepares you for. This episode is for anyone who’s doing great work but feels overlooked, underestimated, or stuck.We share:✅ Why hard work alone doesn’t lead to promotion✅ How perception quietly determines influence and opportunity✅ The body language and communication habits that signal leadership✅ Why visibility compounds — and how to build it intentionally✅ How to navigate loyalty, boundaries, and self-advocacy without burning bridges✅ What executive presence really means in real life and on ZoomThis isn’t about becoming louder or more aggressive. It’s about learning the unspoken rules so you can move with clarity and confidence — on your own terms.🐯👯♀️ We’re the Tiger Sisters — your Wall Street & Silicon Valley big sisters.Decoding Money • Power • Love✨ New episodes every Monday | Shorts all week ✨💌 Want to partner with us?Sponsorships: partnerships@tigersisters.co👀 Newsletterhttps://cherieluo.substack.com/Timestamps:0:58 - End of Year Remix: Lorraine & Leah Interviews02:15 - Perception + Influence = Power02:35 - Welcome Lorraine K. Lee05:52 - First Impressions (Fix Your Face)15:20 - Create Your Personal Brand (In-Person & On LinkedIn)18:00 - This ONE Word Makes You Sound More Persuasive34:16 - The Conversations To Get Promoted At Work39:15 - Lorraine Recap And Bridge To Episode 240:15 - Welcome Leah Wyar55:54 - Say Yes In Life and In Romance!!1:06:57 - Navigating Workplace Politics01:22:35 - How High Powered Women Think About Love 01:32:23 - Closing Thoughts From Cherie & JeanWhy trust us?▫️ Cherie Brooke Luo — 100M+ views demystifying tech, finance & MBAs▫️ Jean Luo — ex-Goldman Sachs, ex-Snapchat exec, 50+ AI patents, startup investor▫️ Together: 4 Ivy League degrees • built billion-dollar products • two startups — decoded for youWhat you’ll get (and keep):▫️ 🚀 Ivy League cheat sheets — no $250K tuition required▫️ Personal finance playbooks — salary, investing, negotiation▫️ Networking scripts behind $100M+ deals & job offers▫️ Real talk with CEOs, operators, and builders▫️ Mindset resets — clarity without the pricey coach▫️ Career systems that actually work💛 LET’S CONNECT~ CHERIE ~Instagram — /cherie.brookeTikTok — /cherie.brookeSubstack — cherieluo.substack.comLinkedIn — /cherie-luo~ JEAN ~Instagram — /jeanluo_LinkedIn — /jeanluo👉 Subscribe, tap the 🔔, and leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review on Spotify & Apple Podcasts. It takes seconds and helps more people find Tiger Sisters.🎵 Music: Sammy Signal🛍️ Sisters Matcha — www.sistersmatcha.com🌀 Everything else — https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b

Should you be using LinkedIn for dating? In this fun, unfiltered follow-up to our Valentine’s Day episode, Jean and Cherie tackle your burning questions about modern romance. They’ll show you the surprising (and hilarious) ways people use professional platforms to find dates, reveal the “interrogation” method for relationships, and open up about the emotional rollercoaster of egg freezing. If you’re an ambitious woman—or dating one—this episode is a must-watch. We share personal stories and actionable tips to help you navigate love, career, and everything in between. Tune in and join the conversation!Hit “Subscribe” for more candid chats and insider advice from the Tiger Sisters :)------------------------------------------------------------------ 🐯👯♀️ Tiger Sisters Podcast | Career, Entrepreneurship, and LifeWelcome to Tiger Sisters, your go-to podcast for career mentorship and life guidance! Hosted by Cherie Brooke Luo and Jean Luo, we’re your internet big sisters here to demystify the ups and downs of navigating careers, tech, and entrepreneurship— all while staying healthy, stylish, and joyful along the way.Cherie is an influencer who has broken down the complexities of big tech, finance, and MBA programs for millions of viewers, with over 100M+ views across platforms. Jean is a tech product executive and investor, holding over 50 AI patents, who has built an impressive career in product management and institutional investment at companies like Goldman Sachs and Snapchat.Between the two of us, we’ve survived stints at top investment banks and big tech firms, founded startups, and earned four Ivy League degrees—if we’re counting Stanford! Yet, we still find time to focus on wellness, friendships, fashion, and skincare, always sharing the lessons we've learned along the way.Whether you’re here for career advice, stories about balancing life’s challenges, or just to hear our honest takes on what it means to pursue fun, wealth, and joy in all areas of life, we’ve got you covered.💛 LET'S CONNECT: ~ CHERIE ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/cherie.brooke 📱 TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@cherie.brooke ✍🏻 My Substack – https://cherieluo.substack.com/ 👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherie-luo/ ~ JEAN ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jeanluo_/👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanluo 🎵 Music produced by Sammy Signal https://open.spotify.com/artist/2HsyknHuxhT8RoZfn5rqMS🛍️ Items Referenced:🍵Sisters Matcha & SISTERS Merch: www.sistersmatcha.com✨Tiger Sisters & Friends Japan Trip (May 2025): https://trovatrip.com/trip/asia/japan/japan-with-cherie-luo-may-2025 ♠️ Everything else: https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b⏰ Timestamps:00:00:00 LinkedIn as a dating hack? Wait…what?!00:00:40 The Valentine’s sequel: answering your spiciest follow-up questions00:01:28 How to actually “interrogate your values” (& your partner’s)00:02:48 The most useful exercise Jean learned in couples therapy00:07:10 Double couples therapy sesh aka how to ruin a Sunday00:09:06 Cherie wants friend counseling lol00:11:40 A bit of goss: another Tiger Sister receives a book on a first date00:15:19 Decidedly do NOT slide into my DMs on LinkedIn00:17:18 Jean’s friend used LinkedIn as a funnel for matchmaking00:20:34 The “everyone’s your coworker” philosophy00:25:21 Did Cherie miss the B-school romance train00:28:02 Egg freezing 101: NO RAGRETS00:32:56 Can he read the meniscus or is he just a f boii?00:34:33 The friend-of-a-friend egg freezing story that changed Jean life (but actually)00:40:09 50/50 partner or bust?00:43:23 We do this for you guys!!! Love you so much. Like, comment, and subscribe!!

Ready to meet the mastermind who turned canned water into culture? In this electrifying Tiger Sisters interview, Jean and Cherie chat with Peter Pham, the culture-obsessed venture studio co-founder who grew up in a refugee camp, rolled with gangs at 10, and now shapes brands the world can’t stop talking about. Discover why Peter says removing “wanting” unlocks true success, how he spots brands that transform customers into die-hard fans, and why a short memory (yes, really) might be your biggest superpower. Don’t miss the Tiger Sisters’ deep-dive takeaways on authenticity, risk-taking, and having the guts to build the life—and brand—of your dreams. Tune in for a no-filter conversation guaranteed to shake up your perspective on business, happiness, and what it really takes to stand out.------------------------------------------------------------------ 🐯👯♀️ Tiger Sisters Podcast | Career, Entrepreneurship, and LifeWelcome to Tiger Sisters, your go-to podcast for career mentorship and life guidance! Hosted by Cherie Brooke Luo and Jean Luo, we’re your internet big sisters here to demystify the ups and downs of navigating careers, tech, and entrepreneurship— all while staying healthy, stylish, and joyful along the way.Cherie is an influencer who has broken down the complexities of big tech, finance, and MBA programs for millions of viewers, with over 100M+ views across platforms. Jean is a tech product executive and investor, holding over 50 AI patents, who has built an impressive career in product management and institutional investment at companies like Goldman Sachs and Snapchat.Between the two of us, we’ve survived stints at top investment banks and big tech firms, founded startups, and earned four Ivy League degrees—if we’re counting Stanford! Yet, we still find time to focus on wellness, friendships, fashion, and skincare, always sharing the lessons we've learned along the way.Whether you’re here for career advice, stories about balancing life’s challenges, or just to hear our honest takes on what it means to pursue fun, wealth, and joy in all areas of life, we’ve got you covered.💛 LET'S CONNECT: ~ CHERIE ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/cherie.brooke 📱 TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@cherie.brooke ✍🏻 My Substack – https://cherieluo.substack.com/ 👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherie-luo/ ~ JEAN ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jeanluo_/👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanluo 🎵 Music produced by Sammy Signal https://open.spotify.com/artist/2HsyknHuxhT8RoZfn5rqMS🛍️ Items Referenced:🍵Sisters Matcha & SISTERS Merch:www.sistersmatcha.com✨Tiger Sisters & Friends Japan Trip (May 2025):https://trovatrip.com/trip/asia/japan/japan-with-cherie-luo-may-2025 ♠️ Everything else:https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b⏰ Timestamps:00:01:22 Meet Peter Pham, Mastermind of Liquid Death00:04:20 Peter’s jaw-dropping origin story00:07:12 “Let go of wanting”00:08:52 Psychology of sports teams in your life00:10:40 Forgetting as a form of resilience00:12:52 Getting away from the Coastals00:13:39 Reset your feeds00:14:06 “If I don’t participate in culture, I can’t invest”00:15:16 Judge a brand by reading their comments section00:16:27 The Liquid Death Playbook00:18:28 Living in a post-truth world00:20:31 How Peter sniffs out real deals, allies, and friends00:24:16 This interview felt extra spicy00:24:44 From refugee camp to millionaire investor00:25:59 “I have everything I need”00:30:52 You don’t have to be the smartest00:32:32 Kim Kardashian’s north star since being a teen00:35:17 Being culturally fluent across generations00:36:52 Jean’s HBS water branding assignment00:38:39 Leveraging the comments section00:39:42 Duolingo personas00:47:27 Sports team mentality & increasing your leverage00:50:03 Sisters Matcha: “you live in our home” 🏡00:53:22 Do you care about the back story?00:56:12 Join the Tiger Sisters in Japan on a trip in May 2025!

What does it take to sell your companies to both Apple and Discord? In this spirited episode, the Tiger Sisters chat with cybersecurity expert and serial entrepreneur John Redgrave—and his energy is totally infectious. John opens up about how he wishes he took risks sooner, building an unstoppable work ethic, and why he believes anyone can become a master storyteller by learning from music, arts, and even corporate America. He dishes on his favorite public speaking hacks (including a ChatGPT tip you can do today), and even reveals his hot take on how the U.S. stacks up against China in AI development. Tune in for a fun, rapid-fire, no-fluff talk that just might inspire your next big leap!note: Jean mentioned “Walter Mondale” but meant “Walter Cronkite” ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------ 🐯👯♀️ Tiger Sisters Podcast | Career, Entrepreneurship, and LifeWelcome to Tiger Sisters, your go-to podcast for career mentorship and life guidance! Hosted by Cherie Brooke Luo and Jean Luo, we’re your internet big sisters here to demystify the ups and downs of navigating careers, tech, and entrepreneurship— all while staying healthy, stylish, and joyful along the way.Cherie is an influencer who has broken down the complexities of big tech, finance, and MBA programs for millions of viewers, with over 100M+ views across platforms. Jean is a tech product executive and investor, holding over 50 AI patents, who has built an impressive career in product management and institutional investment at companies like Goldman Sachs and Snapchat.Between the two of us, we’ve survived stints at top investment banks and big tech firms, founded startups, and earned four Ivy League degrees—if we’re counting Stanford! Yet, we still find time to focus on wellness, friendships, fashion, and skincare, always sharing the lessons we've learned along the way.Whether you’re here for career advice, stories about balancing life’s challenges, or just to hear our honest takes on what it means to pursue fun, wealth, and joy in all areas of life, we’ve got you covered.💛 LET'S CONNECT: ~ CHERIE ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/cherie.brooke 📱 TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@cherie.brooke ✍🏻 My Substack – https://cherieluo.substack.com/ 👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherie-luo/ ~ JEAN ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jeanluo_/👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanluo 🎵 Music produced by Sammy Signal https://open.spotify.com/artist/2HsyknHuxhT8RoZfn5rqMS🛍️ Items Referenced:🍵Sisters Matcha & SISTERS Merch: www.sistersmatcha.com✨Tiger Sisters & Friends Japan Trip (May 2025): https://trovatrip.com/trip/asia/japan/japan-with-cherie-luo-may-2025 ♠️ Everything else: https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b⏰ Timestamps:00:00:00 Cold intro: “No might be a gift”00:01:14 Meet John Redgrave00:02:08 John’s track record: Palantir, Apple, Discord00:03:40 Advice to 29-year-old self00:04:20 Becoming a powerful storyteller00:05:56 John’s first job in the ‘90s00:07:11 Micro-failures and reframing losses00:09:37 “Sometimes no is better than yes”00:11:27 John’s AI hot take (US vs. China)00:12:27 Public speaking secrets00:14:35 Using ChatGPT for media training00:16:32 John’s travel picks00:19:05 Tiger Sisters’ debrief: our takeaways00:19:55 Jean’s favorite takeaway: public speaking00:23:01 How to stay calm00:25:41 Cherie’s favorite tip from John: storytelling00:31:34 Seeking out micro-failures to level up

Struggling to balance your career goals and quest for real love? Look no further! In this special Tiger Sisters bonus episode, Jean (mid-30s) and Cherie (late-20s) reveal their newly discovered 3-part formula—Stability, “Juice,” and that elusive X-Factor—to help you find (and keep) genuine connection.Expect raw truths on heartbreak, honest talk about dating apps vs. meeting IRL, and hard-earned lessons about building long term relationships—applicable for both single and coupled people.Want to make room for both ambition and meaningful romance? Check out this episode and don’t forget to subscribe for more real-life insights!------------------------------------------------------------------🐯🐯👯♀️ Tiger Sisters Podcast | Career, Entrepreneurship, and LifeWelcome to Tiger Sisters, your go-to podcast for career mentorship and life guidance! Hosted by Cherie Brooke Luo and Jean Luo, we’re your internet big sisters here to demystify the ups and downs of navigating careers, tech, and entrepreneurship— all while staying healthy, stylish, and joyful along the way.Cherie is an influencer who has broken down the complexities of big tech, finance, and MBA programs for millions of viewers, with over 100M+ views across platforms. Jean is a tech product executive and investor, holding over 50 AI patents, who has built an impressive career in product management and institutional investment at companies like Goldman Sachs and Snapchat.Between the two of us, we’ve survived stints at top investment banks and big tech firms, founded startups, and earned four Ivy League degrees—if we’re counting Stanford! Yet, we still find time to focus on wellness, friendships, fashion, and skincare, always sharing the lessons we've learned along the way.Whether you’re here for career advice, stories about balancing life’s challenges, or just to hear our honest takes on what it means to pursue fun, wealth, and joy in all areas of life, we’ve got you covered.💛 LET'S CONNECT: ~ CHERIE ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/cherie.brooke 📱 TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@cherie.brooke ✍🏻 My Substack – https://cherieluo.substack.com/ 👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherie-luo/ ~ JEAN ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jeanluo_/👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanluo 🎵 Music produced by Sammy Signal https://open.spotify.com/artist/2HsyknHuxhT8RoZfn5rqMS🛍️ Items Referenced:🍵Sisters Matcha & SISTERS Merch:www.sistersmatcha.com✨Tiger Sisters & Friends Japan Trip (May 2025): https://trovatrip.com/trip/asia/japan/japan-with-cherie-luo-may-2025 ♠️ Everything else: https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b⏰ Timestamps:00:00:00 Single, Ambitious & Over It? Welcome to Our Dating Dilemmas00:01:22 Roses & Thorns: Winter Blues and Sonoma Wine Country Magic00:09:26 Girl Gang Goals: Cherie’s New Founder Besties00:14:36 Ouch! Cherie’s Golf Injuries & a Goopy Deep Cut00:17:56 Why Romance Matters as Much as Career Success00:19:19 Jean’s Heartbreak Confession: 8 Years Down the Drain?00:24:18 The 3-Part Love Formula: Stability, “Juice,” & the X-Factor00:33:21 Chemistry vs. Commitment: What Really Lasts?00:38:58 Jean’s Biggest Lesson: Do Values Actually Align?00:43:33 The “8 Dates” Book: Why We’re Intrigued…or Terrified00:51:12 Hinge Confessions: Why Does It Feel Unhinged?00:56:09 LA vs. SF vs. NYC: Best City for Dating?00:58:28 Falling for Love Again: The Thrill & The Fear01:00:12 Holding Hope and Hopelessness at the Same Time01:02:00 Coming Soon: Egg-Freezing & Deeper Dating Talk01:02:55 Thanks for Watching—Love You!!

Ever wonder how someone goes from getting laid off on Wall Street to becoming Evan Spiegel’s right-hand man at Snapchat? In this riveting chat with the Tiger Sisters, former Chief Strategy Officer Imran Khan reveals the pivotal failures, lightbulb moments, and contrarian beliefs that propelled him from bottom-quartile banking analyst to a Wall Street Wunderkind and Silicon Valley Savant.Tune in to discover: • Why getting fired turned out to be Imran’s lucky break• How “compounding” applies to both finances and friendships• The dangers of dismissing young people—and why listening to the next generation is Imran’s secret weapon• Tips on public speaking, emotional resilience, and forging a world-class networkStick around for Cherie and Jean’s main takeaways from this conversation in another can’t-miss Tiger Sisters episode. Hit play and supercharge your own career reinvention!------------------------------------------------------------------ 🐯👯♀️ Tiger Sisters Podcast | Career, Entrepreneurship, and LifeWelcome to Tiger Sisters, your go-to podcast for career mentorship and life guidance! Hosted by Cherie Brooke Luo and Jean Luo, we’re your internet big sisters here to demystify the ups and downs of navigating careers, tech, and entrepreneurship— all while staying healthy, stylish, and joyful along the way.Cherie is an influencer who has broken down the complexities of big tech, finance, and MBA programs for millions of viewers, with over 100M+ views across platforms. Jean is a tech product executive and investor, holding over 50 AI patents, who has built an impressive career in product management and institutional investment at companies like Goldman Sachs and Snapchat.Between the two of us, we’ve survived stints at top investment banks and big tech firms, founded startups, and earned four Ivy League degrees—if we’re counting Stanford! Yet, we still find time to focus on wellness, friendships, fashion, and skincare, always sharing the lessons we've learned along the way.Whether you’re here for career advice, stories about balancing life’s challenges, or just to hear our honest takes on what it means to pursue fun, wealth, and joy in all areas of life, we’ve got you covered.💛 LET'S CONNECT: ~ CHERIE ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/cherie.brooke 📱 TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@cherie.brooke ✍🏻 My Substack – https://cherieluo.substack.com/ 👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherie-luo/ ~ JEAN ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jeanluo_/👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanluo 🎵 Music produced by Sammy Signal https://open.spotify.com/artist/2HsyknHuxhT8RoZfn5rqMS🛍️ Items Referenced:🍵Sisters Matcha & SISTERS Merch: www.sistersmatcha.com♠️ Everything else: https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b⏰ Timestamps:00:00:00 Snapchat’s #2 → Chief Investment Officer: Imran Khan00:01:34 Bangladesh beginnings to Wall Street00:03:00 Imran’s best tip to his 35-year-old self ($ and friendships)00:05:05 Banking 101: Getting laid off :(00:09:17 Exactly how he turned his Biggest Failure → Biggest Break00:13:40 Why listening to 20-somethings is his secret weapon00:17:34 Imran’s tips on public speaking made simple00:22:06 Superpower: Real friendships00:23:40 Inside The Khanference & community-building00:28:23 Cherie & Jean’s episode takeaways00:30:15 How to compound00:34:58 Cherie loves it when others admit failure lol 00:36:43 Imran used “Small pond, big fish” to win big00:38:54 Jean’s own “wake up” moment on Wall Street 00:45:30 Reflecting on and appreciating Imran’s respect for every job00:48:31 Jean works hard to be as even-keeled as Imran naturally is00:51:00 Cherie shares tea about Jeff Weiner, former LinkedIn CEO00:53:44 This life belief/principle changed Imran’s life forever00:55:55 Jean received an email she sent to herself in 201300:59:05 Perfectly imperfect public speaking01:00:55 Final Reflections & Sign-Off (leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review!!)

In this episode, the Tiger Sisters interview Vu Tran, two-time Y Combinator founder and CEO of Butterflies AI, The First AI Social Network. Join us to learn about how questioning constraints and breaking rules helped him launch two startups before turning 22, why being dumb led to his success today, and how he continues to apply his “go max dumb” mindset. Let’s get vulnerable together as we talk about Vu’s upbringing and why he considers poverty to have been a gift – and why embracing your roots might be your greatest advantage, too. Don’t miss our debrief at the end with just Jean and Cherie where we talk through our favorite learnings from Vu like an HBS case study for even more insights! ------------------------------------------------------------------ 🐯👯♀️ Tiger Sisters Podcast | Career, Entrepreneurship, and Life Welcome to Tiger Sisters, your go-to podcast for career mentorship and life guidance! Hosted by Cherie Brooke Luo and Jean Luo, we’re your internet big sisters here to demystify the ups and downs of navigating careers, tech, and entrepreneurship— all while staying healthy, stylish, and joyful along the way. Cherie is an influencer who has broken down the complexities of big tech, finance, and MBA programs for millions of viewers, with over 100M+ views across platforms. Jean is a tech product executive and investor, holding over 50 AI patents, who has built an impressive career in product management and institutional investment at companies like Goldman Sachs and Snapchat. Between the two of us, we’ve survived stints at top investment banks and big tech firms, founded startups, and earned four Ivy League degrees—if we’re counting Stanford! Yet, we still find time to focus on wellness, friendships, fashion, and skincare, always sharing the lessons we've learned along the way. Whether you’re here for career advice, stories about balancing life’s challenges, or just to hear our honest takes on what it means to pursue fun, wealth, and joy in all areas of life, we’ve got you covered. 🍿 WATCH NEXT: Tiger Sisters Season 3: Facing Rejection to Selling His Startup for $200 Million: David Shim's Founder Mindset 💛 LET'S CONNECT: ~ CHERIE ~ 🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/cherie.brooke 📱 TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@cherie.brooke ✍🏻 My Substack – https://cherieluo.substack.com/ 👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherie-luo/ ~ JEAN ~ 🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jeanluo_/ 👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanluo 🎵 Music produced by Sammy Signal https://open.spotify.com/artist/2HsyknHuxhT8RoZfn5rqMS ⏰ Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Welcome from Cherie and Jean 👋 00:01:57 – Meet Vu Tran: 2x YC Founder & CEO of Butterflies AI 00:03:04 – Questioning Constraints: Which Rules Are Worth Breaking 00:05:26 – “Don’t have the same regrets as me.” 00:06:25 – “Go Max Dumb”: How Vu Operates 00:10:09 – Refugee Camp Roots to First Job 00:11:16 – Vu’s Big Wake Up to See Two Paths in Life 00:13:23 – History: Interracial Marriage to AI-Human Romance 00:17:40 – Jean & Cherie’s Deep Dive Debrief 00:18:17 –Having Nothing Made him Unafraid 00:21:36 – Jean applied Vu’s advice of questioning constraints as a product manager 00:24:00 – “Go Max Dumb” at business school & when leading teams 00:27:34 – Zuck + Sheryl Sandberg as a great “Max Dumb” success story 00:29:00– Saying “If I had a time machine” vs “I regret” 00:31:35 – Jean’s process of “waking up” via a sabbatical 00:35:56 – We’re ready to meet our future grandchildren’s AI boyfriends 00:37:50 – Jean’s book recommendation: Exhalation by Ted Chiang 00:39:17 – Why everyone is obsessed with Japan – join our Japan trip in May 2025! 00:41:29 – Until next time! Rate us ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ and leave us a review 🥰

In this season opener, Jean and Cherie sit down with David Shim—former CEO of FourSquare, founder of Read AI, and the entrepreneur who sold his startup to Snapchat for $200M. He reveals how he overcame relentless rejections, launched his first business at age six, and why “letting it wash off you” can be a superpower in sales. Stick around for Jean and Cherie’s post-interview debrief, where they break down their biggest takeaways, share personal stories that connect with David’s journey, and offer practical tips you can apply to your own business or career. Don’t miss this eye-opening start to our new season of interviews with game-changing CEOs, entrepreneurs, and leaders!------------------------------------------------------------------ 🐯👯♀️ Tiger Sisters Podcast | Career, Entrepreneurship, and LifeWelcome to Tiger Sisters, your go-to podcast for career mentorship and life guidance! Hosted by Cherie Brooke Luo and Jean Luo, we’re your internet big sisters here to demystify the ups and downs of navigating careers, tech, and entrepreneurship— all while staying healthy, stylish, and joyful along the way.Cherie is an influencer who has broken down the complexities of big tech, finance, and MBA programs for millions of viewers, with over 100M+ views across platforms. Jean is a tech product executive and investor, holding over 50 AI patents, who has built an impressive career in product management and institutional investment at companies like Goldman Sachs and Snapchat.Between the two of us, we’ve survived stints at top investment banks and big tech firms, founded startups, and earned four Ivy League degrees—if we’re counting Stanford! Yet, we still find time to focus on wellness, friendships, fashion, and skincare, always sharing the lessons we've learned along the way.Whether you’re here for career advice, stories about balancing life’s challenges, or just to hear our honest takes on what it means to pursue fun, wealth, and joy in all areas of life, we’ve got you covered.🍿 WATCH NEXT: Tiger Sisters Season 2: Our Upbringing as Harvard & Stanford MBA Grads [S2 EP1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylbt-kqkPGk&t=13s Tiger Sisters Season 1: Networking 101 from Harvard & Stanford MBA Grads [S1 EP 10]https://youtu.be/q2D1agAvgkw?si=syXSqjCohGplfdH_ Cherie’s Corner: Roelof Botha: Career & Personal Lessons from Sequoia Capital Managing Partnerhttps://youtu.be/5s9Y5c6OXzs The Internet’s Big Sister and Career Mentor: Jean Luohttps://youtu.be/V_J236VrkrY?si=aSukqYXTOvb5Z4Li 💛 LET'S CONNECT: ~ CHERIE ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/cherie.brooke 📱 TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@cherie.brooke ✍🏻 My Substack – https://cherieluo.substack.com/ 👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherie-luo/ ~ JEAN ~🤳🏻 Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jeanluo_/👩🏻💻 LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanluo 🎵 Music produced by Sammy Signal https://open.spotify.com/artist/2HsyknHuxhT8RoZfn5rqMS🛍️ Items Referenced:🍵Sisters Matcha & SISTERS Merch:www.sistersmatcha.com✨Tiger Sisters & Friends Japan Trip (May 2025):https://trovatrip.com/trip/asia/japan/japan-with-cherie-luo-may-2025 ♠️ Everything else:https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b⏰ Timestamps:00:00:00 – Season 3 Premiere & Introduction00:02:38 – Meet David Shim: Entrepreneur Since Age Six00:10:58 – “Throw Yourself Into it As Much as You Can” 00:13:01 – “Forget Very Quickly”: Turning Rejection into Fuel00:14:50 – Why Competition Can Be A Good Thing (Especially in AI)00:16:08 – “You Were the Worst”: Nearly Flubbing the $200M Snapchat Deal 00:24:56 – Jean & Cherie’s Debrief: Our Biggest Takeaways00:46:03 – Wrap Up & Please Like, Comment, Subscribe, and Rate Us 5 Stars!