Kai Schwemmer (5:39)

Hey, thanks so much for having me.

Tim Pool (5:40)

Who are you? What do you do?

Kai Schwemmer (5:41)

I am the political director for the College Republicans of America. Political commentator as well. I've been doing that for a couple of years. And a chipper and jovial guy in general. That's what I distinguish myself for.

Tim Pool (5:51)

Right on. Should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Brett hanging out.

Brett Dasovic (5:54)

Guys. What is going on? Yes, Brett, normally doing PCC Monday through Friday at 3pm Eastern Standard Time. You should join us there. But I'm excited. Let's get into it. How you doing, Tate?

Tate Brown (6:02)

I'm doing all right and I'm very happy to be here. What is it today? Monday should be up.

Kai Schwemmer (6:06)

Another Monday.

Tim Pool (6:07)

Sad.

Tate Brown (6:08)

I feel like Garfield. I'm Garfield pill dude.

Brett Dasovic (6:09)

I'm never here on a Monday, so Garfield Pilt.

Tim Pool (6:12)

Of course. Carter's pressing the buttons. What's up? I'm pumped to be here as well. It is Monday. Let's get into it. Here's a story from Politico. Desantis signs Florida's new GOP friendly congressional map into law and is swiftly sued. I love the update. The governor has been calling for newly drawn congressional lines since last summer. Now, I believe we have the current maps here. As you can see, previously there were eight Democrat seats. And now with this new map, it's incredible. There's four. And the funny thing about it is that this new map basically makes everything moderately red. Not deep red, just red enough to where it's not competitive. For Democrats and they get only four seats. Now, this is massive. You combine this with Alabama and Louisiana and the rest are expected to fall because the DOJ announced on Friday they would be going after every one of these states with racially gerrymandered districts and forcing them to change. So it looks like they won't have a choice. The interesting thing is what is going to happen in November because if these states are all mired in lawsuits, I can't imagine we've got six months, we've got less than we got about six months from now. That's not going to be enough time to resolve all of these cases which may find themselves going to the Supreme Court. Now, that being said, I do think what might happen is that these redistricting attempts will go to federal courts and the federal courts are going to fall in partisan lines. Democrat federal judges are going to be like, you can't do it. And then all it's got to do is make its way to a conservative appellate who's going to say, no, the Supreme Court already said you cannot use race. What they're going to have to do is argue race is being. I mean, I don't know what Democrats are going to do. They're going to have to claim these are racially gerrymandered districts using race as a determinant factor. And the Republicans are going to be like, nope. And you can't prove it because they're drawn politically. The Democrats are going to have to argue like, oh yeah, well, these districts are mostly white, therefore I don't know how they're going to argue this one. It's going to be. It's going to get weird. But we got this from Politico. They say the new map was approved just days ago by the GOP controlled legislature and was put into place one week after the governor's office delivered it to state legislators. Democrats have repeatedly called the map illegal and a power grab designed to help Republicans keep hold of Congress in the upcoming midterm elections. The civil rights group Equal Ground Education Fund, along with a group of 19 Florida voters living in congressional districts across the state, asked a state judge to block the new map and reinstate the one that had been approved by the legislature back in 2022. The lawsuit contends the governor and legislature violated voter approved anti gerrymandering standards. Those standards maintain that districts cannot be redrawn for partisan or to hurt or help incumbents. The only issue is all they have to do is argue we felt these were racially gerrymandered and show why they think that's the case, and they're going to have to redraw maps. Now, I don't know how you solve for this. What are Democrats gonna do? Sue literally every single time Republicans then sue every single time Republicans. Republicans will just argue it is or is not racially gerrymandered, and Democrats will then argue it is or isn't partisan gerrymandering. I don't know how we resolve this before the midterms. What I can say is, if this moves, this moves forward, Democrats just lose forever. Come 2030, with the new census, Democrats are going to lose another 12 seats. We are looking at a potential 30 to 40 seat permanent Republican majority.

Tate Brown (9:35)

What's so frustrating is the reason there's a difference between Florida and Virginia in this instance is because Florida is having to have. The governor's having to do all this effectively. He's the one pushing this through. We're in Virginia. They were able to literally get Democrats mobilized to gerrymander their own state. And the reason that's interesting is because in this lawsuit, they're actually citing that voters way back in the day in Florida like, passed some sort of anti gerrymandering, you know, piece of legislation and they approved and signed off on it. I'm not very confident that if there was an anti or, sorry, if there was a pro, like, if there was a gerrymandered map that went to the voters in Florida, that Republicans would turn out in droves to vote for it. Because it still kind of comes down to this whole problem that we've discussed ad nauseam, which is like Democrats literally think they're in a civilizational battle. They literally feel like this is all existential and everything. And Republicans are just still under the impression that, well, we could just make a few tweaks to the system, we might get out of this. So it's great to see DeSantis. There's a few other Republican governors that are going to the mat on this. That's fantastic to see, but you just get the sense that there's still just this rot in the GOP where people just don't quite understand why Charlie Kirk was shot. They still don't quite understand why President Trump got shot at. And it's really frustrating to see. And so again, I agree with Tim's analysis. I think this could get prolonged out past the midterms and then the legislator, the legislative can react and maybe put like forward a referendum or something.

Tim Pool (10:49)

But, you know, blows my mind is this map right here. So the call she. I'M sorry, the call sheet prediction graph, they've got Democrats sweep at 45%, which makes literally no sense. I have. There's $3.75 million placed on the outcome of the midterms and Republican sweep is Democrats sweep should be gone. Republicans are favored to win 50 seats right now. If they get one toss up, one toss up, it's done. If they do not win a single toss up, they still win the Senate. So who the thinks they're going to get both the House and the Senate? Considering they're likely going to WIN the Senate, 34% for Democrat House, Republican Senate makes sense. But now considering the redistricting battle, Democrats aren't going to be able to win this because the DOJ is actively pressuring states. I imagine if California tries pulling off some ridiculous seven districts in San Francisco, Harmeet Dillon and the DOJ is going to be like, no. And if the Republican states say we're not going to redistrict, she's going to say no. The Trump admin is coming in and procedurally altering the right. So I do not understand how Republican sweep is only at 22%. If Republican sweep was still under Democrat House, I'd say fine, if Democrats sweep was at the bottom. But for some reason, I have no idea why people are not betting on it.

Kai Schwemmer (12:14)

Yeah, I'd say the reason, if I am to, you know, create a steel man, the reason not to bet on that is because, like you were saying, Tate, the Republicans are not willing to play to win. But I think, you know, in Florida, we're seeing that we're taking this a lot more seriously. I thought it'd be more limited. They. There's something called the Purcell Principle, which typically excludes changes being made to districts in the election year. This is something that, you know, is gonna happen in Utah, where we do have a Democratic district. It's like a plus 23 Kamala Harris District in the middle of Utah, which is crazy. Somalian guy won the latest Democratic convention. He had 50 refugees who were, you know, state delegates, which is a little crazy. I'm sure they're looking out for the best of Utah, but, you know, I thought it was gonna be more limited. That would maybe be my apprehension.

Tate Brown (12:56)

But.

Kai Schwemmer (12:56)

But this is a white poll we're getting. And yeah, this is.

Tim Pool (12:59)

Which one is it for?

Kai Schwemmer (13:00)

This is the prior one. If I'm not.

Tim Pool (13:01)

Oh, this is the old one. Oh, right. They redrew a new one.

Tate Brown (13:04)

Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (13:04)

Which is basically just Salt Lake City. There you go. Yep, Number one right there. This is the New Utah map. This is thanks to.

Tim Pool (13:11)

Wait, a Somali won in Salt Lake

Kai Schwemmer (13:13)

City in the Democratic convention, which they have at the same time as the Republican one. 51% of the vote share went to a 27 year old child of Somalian immigrants named Lebon Mohammed, which for those who have read the Book of Mormon, it is crazy that anybody with the name similar to Laban, who is an antagonist in the Book of Mormon is winning in Utah. But yeah, he got the majority of the vote share in that new district which is a plus 23 democrat district. We're gonna fight it tooth and nail. You know, the college Republicans in Utah, we're really interested in this race cuz it will be a bellwether to see how the state goes. But that map's not changing because of the, like I just said, this Purcell principle of the maps not, you know, changing in that election year. Looks like the rest of the states, you know, are not heeding that principle. Which is good because you know, in Louisiana there have been elections that are happening right now that have been stopped, canceled.

Tate Brown (13:59)

Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (13:59)

And it's pretty tremendous. But I think a lot of this stuff has to be decided by the Supreme Court. I think that's what it's going to come down to in Utah. They haven't helped us at all. And this is a map, by the way, that we get in part actually, you know, in large part by a Republican representative named Blake Moore who was the sponsor or co sponsor of something called the Better Boundaries initiative back in 2018 that produced the map that you're seeing right there.

Tim Pool (14:23)

It's interesting. So Hispanic and Latino in Salt Lake city make up 20%.

Kai Schwemmer (14:29)

There's been a huge influx.

Tim Pool (14:30)

Yeah, I wonder, has that changed things with the massive population of Latinos like the.

Kai Schwemmer (14:37)

Politically, you know, I think that might be part of it. I'll say One of the big issues is that Utah has this niceness problem. And you know, part of this is that, you know, maybe it's the Mormon thing, you know, the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, we don't want to be mean to people, but I think oftentimes we allow ourselves to be just politically handicapped by that. And Republicans are not willing to fight to win in many cases. And so we have become, I think it was actually, you know, ICE was reporting on this. We are a sanctuary state, Utah. That's insane. It's insane to think that Utah has become a sanctuary state and it's happened under our noses. And you know, I think this is part of it. It is that you have an influx in the population. Of course, you know, they have children who are immediately naturalized and can vote for Democrats. But Republicans in Utah just have not seemed to take this serious enough to stop it from happening. And now we've got this Democratic seat in our state.

Tim Pool (15:26)

There is an estimated 38,000 illegal immigrants living in Salt Lake City.

Tate Brown (15:32)

Well, and that's.

Tim Pool (15:33)

Wow.

Tate Brown (15:33)

And that's what's so crazy, because I don't know if you guys saw the Washington Post article today where they said this is what would have happened. They did a whole analysis on what would have happened to elections if the SAVE act would have passed. And they had New Mexico and Nevada becoming like, tilt r evolent, lean river states. And you had states like Connecticut. Now they're in play. Yeah, the SAVE act passed. And you just sit there and you're like, what is the impetus? If you're a senator, why even hold this up? Because you have. You stand nothing but the gain.

Kai Schwemmer (16:01)

And that's our juxtaposition in Utah. It is Blake Moore and Senator Mike Lee. This is the juxtaposition that we have Mike Lee.

Tate Brown (16:09)

First of all, a poster. Second of all, dude, literally base Mike Lee. Yeah, he's great. But, yeah, that's just so bizarre. And then, of course, it's gonna spin up conspiracy theories. I mean, one theory around the say that getting held was, again, that would cause trouble for establishment candidates in primaries. As they're saying, a lot of these Republican, these establishment shill guys who just seemingly dominate their primaries and no one knows why. You could maybe chalk that up to the elderly. But a large. What a lot of people have pointed out is they're doing their own ballot harvesting. They know how to ballot harvest. They're not idiots. Like, this idea that the Republicans are just watching the Democrats do ballot harvesting. They're like, oh, I don't know how they're pulling that off. They are. And I mean, again, still a theory. But a lot of people are speculating that's what's happening in these primaries. That's how you had Mitch McConnell dominating primaries at, like, dictatorial numbers.

Kai Schwemmer (16:51)

Well, and Senator John Curtis from Utah, he's opposed to the passing of the SAVE act because of the, you know, inclusion of the zombie filibuster, that it would be stripped away as well. The zombie filibuster, you know, a term by Mike Lee to describe the fact that, you know, Democrats can uphold the voting process not by doing a traditional filibuster talking, you know, until you literally can't talk anymore. But literally, just by saying, you know, we're gonna filibuster, that's it. Which is ridiculous. It's like, come on, what are we even doing?

Tate Brown (17:16)

We have all that with, like, the blue slips in the Senate, where, again, it's not an official. It's not an official rule. It's just a kind of. It's tradition that if a senator from a state objects to a federal appointment, then the Senate won't approve this.

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Tate Brown (18:16)

And that's what happened in New Jersey was. It was like, Cory Booker came out with Alina Haba, and he was like, no, I have some serious contentions. You know, I'm from New Jersey, so I know her really well, and I've heard there's some nasty things about her. And everyone in the Senate was like, all right, well, Cory Booker objected. I guess we can't, you know, we can't approve her. And it's so bizarre because it's not even in the rules. Like, that's just a thing that people do because it's like, tradition.

Kai Schwemmer (18:35)

And it's like, Cory Booker is such a serious individual.

Tate Brown (18:37)

Yeah. Literally. Yeah. Mr. Potato Head. So it's just bizarre. And I think part of it to maybe to be a little bit gracious here is a lot of these senators are like wonks. Like, they came out of the law school, they clerked for years, they interned for all these different senators. So they're kind of in their head. They don't want to be the guy that tips the boat because, like, I want to be the guy responsible for the delusion of our beautiful system and that sort of thing. They just don't realize how the base is feeling.

Tim Pool (18:59)

Just a quick add on here from Bloomberg Law. Supreme Court has agreed to expedite the redistricting mandate. So they signed a request today. Louisiana is going to redraw their maps. I imagine they're going to do the same for all these other states they're going to just ram it through. If they saw if this is request. Well, we'll see. It's going to be interesting to see if it even gets anywhere near them. But with Harmeet, Dylan, I don't know if it was Harmeet, but it was the DOJ saying we're going to go after every state and make them redistrict. They're doing it.

Kai Schwemmer (19:27)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (19:28)

I mean, Marco lies at democracy docket said he doesn't know they could do it because they've already. A lot of these states have already sent out their mail in ballots. Nope. They don't care.

Kai Schwemmer (19:34)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (19:34)

They're like primaries postponed.

Kai Schwemmer (19:36)

We're doing new maps, writing in pencil, like canceled, like outside of some of these ballot drops.

Tate Brown (19:41)

And a lot of people have like, you know, made the point that maybe we should just like hold out voting for the Republican Party. And honestly, I totally understand why people feel that way. And if you saw the save that get held up for as long as

Brett Dasovic (19:49)

you did, like just not voting for them.

Tim Pool (19:51)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (19:51)

People are just saying, I'm not gonna show up. Why should I reward these people? And I actually totally understand that impetus. I think this is a great example of why it probably is still as favorable for us to vote in Republicans because again, the previous governor of Louisiana was a Democrat. Do you think he's going to be chomping at the bit to get this, get all those districts wiped away? No, probably not. Bel Edwards was his name Jeff Landry. He's like, put the foot on the gas.

Brett Dasovic (20:11)

That logic is why Republicans struggle so much in non presidential elections. Right. Just because either they don't vote at all or they're not voting on principle and then they're staying away from it. Whereas the left will vote entirely. Fall in line.

Tate Brown (20:25)

Yeah. Yeah. And there's kind of some weird, like, sociological reasons why that is the case. But especially in this year where the Iran war is really unpopular, you're going to have a lot of people probably just staying home if the gap prices stay up. I mean, I know. It's like on these political podcasts, we come up with all these philosophical reasons for why people support Trump or why people support the Republicans. The reality is the majority of people are just like, I'm poorer than I was a year ago, I'm not gonna vote.

Kai Schwemmer (20:45)

Yeah. I mean, the conception that most people have of politics is like egg crisis and gas. That is it. And I'll say this has been very destructive because it communicates that we have a lack of idealism now and the lack of Idealism betrays a sense of just like having given up, you know, if you don't believe that you can do things which are extraordinary, which are new and original, if you are not an idealist, then you're basically admitting that you think that you've lost in some major way. You don't think you're capable of creating anything new. And the paradigm of politics that we are usually operating in it is that. And the worst thing I think now that Republicans are seeing is the idealism from 2016 seems to be disappearing faster and faster, where now we're almost like, well, which candidate is the most electable, the least controversial? It's like, did we not live through 2016? Did we not have this moment where these ideas, these revolutionary ideas in the Republican Party won and that they won again, the majority of the vote in 2024.

Tim Pool (21:45)

It's all relative, though. Happiness is all relative. So I think what the Trump admins banking on is two things. The procedural victory in the midterms. Yeah. That is redistrict. And we don't care what you think. Yeah. Because we're going to get extra seats. But the other issue is if just before the midterms prices start dropping dramatically, people are going to feel that relief and they're not going to adjust quickly enough to it.

Kai Schwemmer (22:07)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (22:07)

They will just say the Republicans have done it.

Tate Brown (22:10)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (22:10)

So the thing people need to understand is like six months is an eternity in an election.

Kai Schwemmer (22:15)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (22:15)

Gas prices are really high right now. So Trump's approval rating is low. That being said, Republicans have a higher favorability than Democrats right now, which is insane. Historically, Democrats should be way up, way above as they're the opposition party. They're still not, which is actually pretty freaky. You combine this with a potential. I say potential because you have no idea what the Trump admin is going to do. But let's say come September, prices start easing. Trump pulls back on the straightforward moves or whatever it is his plan is. His plan is going to be then mid October, gas prices drop way down. Trump is going to say we did it. Or more importantly, this is what's fascinating about the human psyche in this country. You take a look at the mentality people had a year ago versus today. It's dramatically different. Like the trends we see in politics are very, very different. Trump could in September say, we are going to get passed a new bill. It's going to bring down your gas prices and make groceries way cheaper. And then the Senate, it's going to get stuck. And he's going to Say the Democrats in the Senate are blocking us from lowering your prices.

Brett Dasovic (23:17)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (23:17)

Then Trump signs an executive order pushing something through at the 11th hour, prices come down. And then he says, this is what the Democrats did. We've been trying this whole time to get your prices down. And all he's gotta do is move the needle. Three points.

Tate Brown (23:32)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (23:32)

That's enough.

Kai Schwemmer (23:34)

Yeah. I think, you know, Trump is absolutely gonna do what you're describing, like this kind of 11th hour save. Cuz this is what, you know, if you look at the way he's operating with, you know, the oil prices during the Iran war, he's doing this every single week where, you know, he'll wait to do anything major until the markets closed and then, you know, he'll cause the shakeup. And that's the way he's gonna be looking at it around election time as well. The problem is, you know, we don't want that in the next two years after the election, the kind of resuming of what's been happening now, which is a total halting and an inability to execute on some of the major policy items that Trump campaigned on and that we expect of a Republican Senate and House. This is, I think the issue is that it is not worth winning if you don't win to do stuff.

Brett Dasovic (24:18)

What positions are you talking about in particular?

Kai Schwemmer (24:20)

Like, for instance, the SAVE act is a small one.

Tim Pool (24:22)

Right.

Kai Schwemmer (24:22)

Where you have a Republican Senate, House and Executive branch. Right. And the Judiciary. Right. So we have Republicans in every part of government, but we want them to actually start doing something. We want them to not just, you know, really ramp up the heat when it's election time, but then to deliver afterwards. And that needs to be, of course, immigration restriction, deportations. It has to be, you know, voter reform in the sense of the SAVE act, making sure that there, you know, is more transparency as to the process, that there is voter id. And we do want in, in my opinion, one of the major things that we're hearing from young people, especially not just online, but around, and I've also heard this from many veterans, we don't want this kind of, you know, very ambiguous end to the Iran war. We want a clearly defined goal and we want an exit strategy. And Trump, one of the things that actually very much motivated me was during his State of the Union and other addresses, he'd been g. He had talked about making a plan for affordability and healthcare. We don't have those yet. We need that. Republicans cannot be the party of all of the right ideas, but none of the right policy I think the right policy is something we really have to produce and the SAVE act was a good part of that.

Brett Dasovic (25:31)

Is there even something in the pipeline with people that he's with policymakers that he's worked with? Because the only thing I think of is like Trump Rx, like, other than that, like, there's like. And that is one of the biggest ones right now is health care in this country is just one of the hardest things for anybody to be able to kind of reconcile because it's such. I mean, we've been seeing that on X with people posting like the ridiculous bills they're getting. They're like, oh, is it like Riley Gaines, like nine, like eight months after my I gave birth, I got another bill in the mail and stuff like that. And I don't know how you, how the government gets involved in that in any way that's going to be meaning make meaningful change that quickly.

Tate Brown (26:06)

Yeah. The fact that I'm hearing on mainstream podcasts so many different, like, ways of how you can avoid like debt collectors and stuff that tells you something's like, really wrong with health care.

Brett Dasovic (26:15)

They're like, don't, don't have insurance. If you don't have insurance, they'll work with you.

Tate Brown (26:19)

They're like, oh, you can just like hide your id so if you get picked up by an ambulance and they won't know who you are and they don't know who to bill, it's like, what are we, what kind of country is this?

Kai Schwemmer (26:26)

Like, what is this total decline of social capital and social trust? It's horrible.

Tim Pool (26:30)

I think we're, we're headed for, headed for a major economic collapse that no one can stop. There is no political solution to the mortality cliff. Boomers are at life expectancy now. It could go one of two ways. We've talked about it quite a bit on the show. But with no new generation coming in to the entry level positions because millennials didn't have kids 20 years ago, myself included, we are looking at a major shortage of college students coming in. They're calling it a matriculation shortage. As well as entry level labor, you need 16 year olds working at, you know, UPS or at KFC, you know, fast food restaurants, doing these jobs and we don't have that. Yeah, then you have one of two issues. Either boomers are going to live too long or they're all going to die. Now, we've talked quite a bit about how boomers are at life expectancy. So there is a concern that they're gonna start dying in Large numbers which are gonna rapidly alter the political landscape. There is, however, an alternative we haven't discussed, and that is longevity. Boomers may actually end up living to 100 because of medical advances and they are gonna continually own everything and reinforce politics the younger generation hates. This will just lead to rapid instability or some kind of corporatocracy or oligarchy, in my opinion.

Tate Brown (27:48)

Yeah, well you're already seeing them set the table for that. Because look at Japan. Japan has one of the highest life expectancies in the world. And that country is functionally like an elderly welfare state. So the young people will work 12 hour days just to support this enormous welfare state for the elderly. And now you're seeing like some of those policy proposals the United States and they're getting couched in terms that sound like kind of like it could pass a sniff test for conservatives and I might start a debate at the table. But I'm like, I see what Desantis. This is a hit against DeSantis, what they're pushing in Florida where they wanna abolish property taxes. And I'm like, that's a huge give to boomers. Absolutely. It's a total ripoff for young people. And as a young person, I mean look, I love the elderly. I love boomers. Cuz I do think like they are like when they're gone, the sort of coalitions are gonna stitch together and the Republican party are gonna be like a nightmare. That being said, I hate the trend. That's like what we're trending towards, which is just this geritocracy, this like boomer welfare state. Not even boomers, just an elderly welfare state. And there's no way out of it. It's just young people are going to get squeezed and they're going to bring immigrants in to like backfill whatever it's left over.

Kai Schwemmer (28:46)

Yeah, that's the issue.

Tim Pool (28:47)

The property tax thing is specifically because you can't give them more money. Right. So Social Security is what it is. It's going to be insolvent, they argue. And six years is when they're talking about Social Security will be unable to, to function properly. Now don't get me wrong, money will come out, but only money going in. You need on average right now, four laborers in the tax system to cover one Social Security recipient. The problem is we don't have young people coming into the workforce. Not only do we not have young people in general, but Gen Z, many of them ain't working.

Kai Schwemmer (29:26)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (29:26)

And so what are they going to do? They say, okay, well, if we drop their property taxes, which I think they're going to do, this is going to reduce costs for a lot of these boomers who own property, who are retired, and they're going to say, oh, okay, my monthly bills remain the same now because my cost of living is going up and my property taxes are gone. This is going to take money away from the state that they would need for services. It is eventually going to pop.

Tate Brown (29:51)

Well, you're gonna have like, it's going to drive young people to insanity. I mean, you're already seeing them feel the pinch now. And I know it's like in vogue to like dunk on young people or whatever, but it's like, look what happened to Orban. Look what happened to Orban in Hungary. The young people turned on him. That's what happened. Like everyone over here in the conservative commentary in America was like glazing Orban all day. And I think he's fantastic. I like a lot of his policy proposals. I think he was great. That being said, he lost the young people because again, there was corruption, there was a lot of things like that, but also the way that the society was structured tilted towards the elderly. And this is what's gonna happen in the United States, to your point, like with property taxes. Florida abolishes property taxes. Hooray. Now, you know, elderly people's, you know, property taxes are frozen or they're dropped entirely. They gotta get that money from somewhere. They're gonna front load the sales tax on your house. Now young people are frozen out of the housing market forever. Cause they gotta pony up 10, 10%.

Tim Pool (30:35)

They're gonna front load tax on everything. It's gonna be horrible. What's going to happen is young people who already can't afford a house are struggling to find meaning. Meaningful work are going to. There's a solution. There is what we have to do to make sure we can keep Social Security functioning because we can't lose the boomer vote. Tax young people more.

Brett Dasovic (30:56)

No, Trump will be like, you guys can just get a 70 year mortgage this year.

Tate Brown (30:59)

Oh, I know, but it's unbelievable.

Tim Pool (31:01)

I can't believe they proposed a 50 year mortgage.

Tate Brown (31:03)

Literally, just like unbelievable. Entitlements are already half of our budget. We got an extra trillion going in the military, which is neither here nor there. So there's barely anything left after it's all said and done. That's why I have like a lot of grace for Trump, because it's like, look at his team. Like, look at his team right now. It's Like Michael Jordan and then, like, four guys that are, like, crippled. That's basically. It's unbelievable.

Kai Schwemmer (31:22)

It's so interesting. You know, when you look at the turnover in the admin, like, in the first admin, it's like, man, you know, there's all these subversive elements. Like, we got to get these guys out of here. Like, they're subverting what the admin is trying to do.

Tate Brown (31:32)

Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (31:32)

Then you look at now, it's like, man, these guys aren't getting anything done. Like, what the heck is going on? We need to get these guys out.

Tate Brown (31:38)

Literally. I mean, it's like, it's just so obvious that, like, okay, even if Trump is. Is this Napoleonic figure, the amount of gridlock right now, the way that our system is designed structurally just does not permit, like, generational change. And that's what's so frustrating. That's why a lot of people are just saying Trump should just, like, say, screw it and go mask off. I'm like, it's a lot harder than it looks like. You can just go pick some, like, legal minds brains on, like, everything that the Trump administration has tried so far and where it's been shut down, it's like, oh, my gosh.

Tim Pool (32:02)

You know what I think, though? I think everything that we're seeing could be. And I'm just gonna get a little conspiratorial because, you know, we've got a big old bag of different conspiracies we can bring up. But one hypothesis is we are already past the point of productional what I would call functional scarcity. Scarcity still exists, but have you guys seen these videos of women in urban centers filming their day jobs?

Tate Brown (32:29)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (32:30)

I am convinced the economy is completely fake and or at least partially fake.

Tate Brown (32:45)

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Kai Schwemmer (33:21)

all serious Internet, but dead economy.

Tim Pool (33:22)

Dead economy. Because, yo, I actually want this to end. I do. I want the account. I want labor to have to exist. I want people to have to do hard work to a certain degree. Watching these videos where a woman is like. So, like, I get up and I go to work. And then the first thing I do is I get a matcha green tea. And then she, like, makes a latte and she goes. Then I go upstairs to see the crew. Hi, guys. And it's like they're all sitting around just, like, talking. And then she's like. Then I go in Zoom meetings for, like a couple hours, and it's just meetings and, like, that's all we do. And then it's lunchtime. And then she, like, films herself making an Acai Bowl. 80% of the video, there's no work at all. And of the work they actually do, it's complaining to each other and doing nothing. It's lit.

Brett Dasovic (34:03)

The work is literally to have work to do.

Tim Pool (34:06)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (34:06)

So I was. We were. We were at a. My wife and I were at a market over the weekend. She does these markets that she. That she puts up that she works at. And this guy literally spent 30 minutes in the booth next to us telling his friends about. He's like, and I'm in copilot. And he just used a bunch of corporate buzzwords to talk for 30 minutes about how. He talked about being a corporate dude working a corporate job to other corporate people and about how, like, and I got brought on by these dudes and blah, blah. He didn't say anything for 35 minutes. It was like he was. He was like, mansplaining work to other men about sitting in Zoom meetings.

Tim Pool (34:37)

I honestly think we live in what's called a kleptocracy. And that is you can have whatever you want if you decide to take it. So this function in a couple ways. One, massive fraud around the country, like we've seen in Minnesota, now California, and fake jobs funded by nothing, where people get food, money, and then pretend to be working. So I just wanna stress, if you wanna understand how insane this economy is and what is happening to our civilization, imagine going back 200 years and explaining to people that, like, in the future you can be rich and successful or at least have a standard living with a house, with an apartment or whatever. By sitting around and complaining to each other while people listen to you. Can you imagine the nerve of some of these people? All they do every day is just complain on the Internet and they make a ton of money doing it. This is a fake economy.

Kai Schwemmer (35:30)

Yeah, the economy. The solution, you know, the jobs problem. We just need to give out podcast mics to people.

Tate Brown (35:35)

Yes, Real.

Tim Pool (35:36)

You know what I'm gonna do?

Kai Schwemmer (35:37)

Give valuable jobs to people.

Tim Pool (35:38)

I gotta film. I gotta film tomorrow. We should do it like day in the life of going to work at Tim Cast Real. Maybe. Maybe you should film one of those. And it's like, that's the first three hours. He's just floating in a kiddie pool with sunglasses on.

Tate Brown (35:52)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (35:52)

Literally, it's like, have you ever seen. Have you ever seen the video of the girl?

Tate Brown (35:56)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (35:57)

The girl who makes the fake one. She's like a day in my life at Raytheon.

Kai Schwemmer (36:00)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (36:00)

And she was like, one of the rare ones that was like, awesome. She's like, yeah, I just like, killed like 30 people.

Kai Schwemmer (36:06)

You know, I'm thinking of that other tweet that's like, you know, these corporate jobs are just like daycare for adult women.

Tim Pool (36:11)

Like.

Tate Brown (36:11)

Yes.

Brett Dasovic (36:13)

Somewhere.

Tate Brown (36:13)

Literally. Call it ZOG Daycare.

Brett Dasovic (36:16)

This is a side effect of the fact that all these companies. So all of these people likely would be working for smaller companies, but they're working for larger ones because they've been bought up. And I've talked about this on this show before, where the American dream used to be. You start a plumbing company or an H vac company. You work for it for 25, 30 years, and you pass it on to your kids. Your kids do it. That's not what it is anymore. They sell it to. To private equity now or to larger corporations and talk about it all.

Tim Pool (36:42)

The American dream.

Kai Schwemmer (36:43)

What?

Tim Pool (36:43)

The American dream now is to sell your business, get 2 million bucks and just not do anything. Go to Cancun.

Brett Dasovic (36:48)

That's it.

Tate Brown (36:48)

But.

Brett Dasovic (36:49)

And thing is, and the companies make it. First of all, they try to push you. They push you out of the market by making it impossible for you to compete with, you know, the resources they have. You can't even get past them. If you want to get your stuff on the front page of Google, they've already mastered SEO to make. To keep you out there. And to do that, they have to have women who do zoom jobs for eight hours a day.

Tim Pool (37:08)

There is because. So the American dream used to be that you come on the boat, land at Ellis island, you're all covered in rags, and you're like, this country will be good to me. And then you work really, really hard. They're all Dracula. They're all Dracula. This country will be good. They all come here, they have kids or they bring their kids. He starts like a butcher shop, and then he's like, one day you have a butchery, you know, a butcher shop, and you will live a good life. And then he kisses his wife life. And then it changed, and the American dream became. All I got to do is write one song, one time, and I'll be rich for the rest of my life. Today, the American dream is to figure out how to go bum. Yeah, bum. And then that's it. You're rich.

Kai Schwemmer (37:51)

Literally.

Tim Pool (37:51)

I'm not even kidding. You know what I'm talking about, right? Some Filipina chick literally just went bum, bum on TikTok for 10 seconds and is a millionaire. Now, that's the American dream.

Kai Schwemmer (38:01)

No, that's how it goes. And this is the big problem. I see. And this is all structural, right? When you think about the terms we use, you know, that we have an unemployment problem. What's the solution? Well, people shouldn't be able to pump their own gas anymore. I think after 20 years of pumping other people's gas. Something that you used to yourself. No, not in Utah or. What'd you say?

Tim Pool (38:22)

There's like, two states, Oregon and New Jersey. You can't pump your own gas.

Tate Brown (38:25)

Oregon just got rid of it, actually.

Kai Schwemmer (38:27)

Well, and in Argentina, you know, when I was down there, that was one of the biggest things I saw. I was like. Like, why are people pumping other people's gas? But it is this moment where you will do that for 20 years, and you will realize that the work that you're doing is not fulfilling. You are not actually producing something. You're not. You know, it's something that a mathematics professor from Harvard who ended up doing something that he was more well known for, which wasn't so good, Dr. Theodore John Kaczynski, he talked about these as surrogate activities, activities which fulfill what is called a power process. This need to have a goal and accomplish the goal and go on. But. But they don't actually do anything for you or for anybody in a way that gives your life value. And if you just fill your life with surrogate activities, there's two things that'll happen. First, one is transhumanism. It is scientists who end up doing science for science's sake. And they end up creating these monstrosities beyond human comprehension. The other part of it is that you will have people who just one day wake up and say, I'm gonna do drugs and die from this. There's nothing in my life.

Tate Brown (39:19)

It's broken. It's like broken Windows theory for high IQ people.

Brett Dasovic (39:24)

Those jobs mattered more when people had families and they could go and made life at home. What mattered to them?

Kai Schwemmer (39:30)

You could at least provide for people who depended on you. But now you are just living this life, sustaining your own appetites, and none of those appetites direct you to anything.

Tim Pool (39:40)

There's a few problems. First is a loss of faith.

Kai Schwemmer (39:43)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (39:43)

When people were unified based on, we all have a mission and we know what we're doing, it didn't matter what you were doing, but there was also community. You would go to church every Sunday and everyone would meet together and they would feel like they're doing something and you had something to be proud of and say, you know, I work out down at the gas station and we're putting in a new.

Brett Dasovic (40:03)

A new pump.

Tim Pool (40:03)

Things are going pretty. So working at a gas station was not bad. These days, it's all mechanized. And you mentioned the private equity thing. I think this is where a big problem comes in. Because if you go back in time, people were proud of whatever job they did, even if it was menial, because it was there. Yes.

Brett Dasovic (40:18)

They also wrote, they also identified with the company, and that was a whole part of. Functionally, they would work, work the same job for 20, 30, 40 years, retire with a pension. And of course, companies can't. Look, I'm radicalized against private equity. I know it's like my. It's my farthest left position that I'm like, look, I can't make you a solid, cohesive argument why it's a bad thing. I just know. I just know that the more it is expanded and the more industries that they've entered into, quality has gone down and people see less opportunities because it's no longer seen as something to take pride in. It's something where they come in just to try and make as much money out of it and just squeeze it dry.

Kai Schwemmer (40:55)

And that's why the chicken sandwich don't taste good. And that's why they're mean to me in the drive through. They don't care that they're representing Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Tim Pool (41:02)

I think one of the issues is that the mechanized system and mass media have combined to create an unfulfilling labor market. Yeah. That is, if you did not have mass media at all, you'd be talking to your buddies about what you did. There is a social drive that humans have to be better at what they're doing.

Brett Dasovic (41:22)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (41:23)

And if you work at a gas station, you're a mechanic. You can talk to your boys about your expertise and feel proud that you are good at what you do. And then they're going to say, well, I work in marketing. And they can tell you what they're good at. The only problem now is society doesn't care what you're good at. They care about, as I mentioned, bum, bum girl, whatever her name is. Some, some, some chick dances for 10 seconds on tick tock, gets 100, 200 million views, and so they make her a star. Young people see this and when they're sitting around, they're no longer talking about what I succeeded at. They're trying to say, I got a million views 10 years ago. This is actually 14 years ago, I was at VidCon in Anaheim, YouTube social media convention. I'm walking in and I see there's like three 10 year old kids. And one kid goes, you have 80 followers.

Brett Dasovic (42:09)

Wow.

Tim Pool (42:10)

He's like, yeah. And I'm just like, these kids are cooking. They are in serious trouble.

Tate Brown (42:14)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (42:14)

They're going to grow up and they're not going to be proud of what they do unless they get some social verification for doing it.

Brett Dasovic (42:20)

Think about like, where it came from before that, before that, what it was, was like, they don't want to be doctors and astronauts. They want to be pro athletes. At least pro athletes had to like, strive for something and actually achieve something magnificent. Because it actually takes a lot of work and dedication to become a pro athlete.

Tim Pool (42:35)

I just got to point out something like we have a major shortage of the trades right now and an overabundance of podcasters. Yep. There's just mostly dudes should be, yeah,

Kai Schwemmer (42:46)

somebody's gotta tell them how to do their job.

Tim Pool (42:47)

But the funny thing is, like, when you look, when you look at.

Kai Schwemmer (42:50)

We love our plumbers. We love our plumbers.

Tim Pool (42:52)

When you look at Democrats, they're sitting there being like, okay, what's the problem? Right now? We have no low skill labor. Entry level labor from young people is not coming in and we're lacking in the trades. We do have an overabundance of podcasters. A lot of Americans sit around complaining and they make a lot of money doing it. What should we do? Well, it's like that meme with the people at the desk. One guy says, should we open the borders and let in a million people? And the next person says, should we just give amnesty to the existing illegal so they can do these jobs? And finally the last guy's like, maybe the people who talk and complain for a living should go do meaningful work and they throw them out the window.

Kai Schwemmer (43:28)

Well, and that's. There's two parts of this that I was thinking about. One, this is the issue is that the responses are always going to be unsustainable. And they'll make the issue worse. Like the case of immigration, the response from the left is always, well, because we don't have a high enough total fertility rate, we need to just import people who have more kids, not realizing that the total fertility rate of immigrants drops at a faster rate in the first generation than the native born population has been dropping over time and drops in general.

Tim Pool (43:58)

I gotta ask you a question though. Isn't like the LDS church famous for having big families? Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (44:01)

Yes.

Tim Pool (44:02)

How is your, how is your population not expanding rapidly in Utah to like tens of millions?

Kai Schwemmer (44:07)

Well, the thing is, part of the issue is that, you know, we all end up in D.C. no, no. But part of the issue is that we are not immune from the effects of the world where people begin to, you know, think less and less of having children, multiplying and replenishing the earth as a commandment. And they think about it more and more like a suggestion. But for us for a long time, you know, this was a very serious commandment and it should be exploding even more and more. You know, I really hope, you know, the proselyte, the proselytizing is going to help expand that. But there's definitely a cultural kind of idea of having children that exists purely in ut. Utah is expanding. To be fair.

Tim Pool (44:41)

Do you know the fertility rate numbers among LDs across the world?

Kai Schwemmer (44:46)

I don't know. Like in Utah specifically, it's, I think it's actually.

Tim Pool (44:50)

What is it?

Kai Schwemmer (44:50)

2.3. We're right below the Amish.

Tate Brown (44:53)

Let's go.

Tim Pool (44:54)

Right. Because the discussion is that the United States is either going to be Muslim, Amish or Mormon.

Tate Brown (45:01)

Well, they're just going to be going, oh, dude, the debates are going to be crazy. Not even speaking the same language.

Tim Pool (45:06)

It's, it's four to six. Okay, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

Kai Schwemmer (45:09)

I was going to say.

Tim Pool (45:10)

No, no, no, wait, wait, wait. For LDS members, it's 2.8.

Kai Schwemmer (45:14)

Yes.

Tim Pool (45:14)

Okay.

Kai Schwemmer (45:15)

Better than I thought.

Tate Brown (45:16)

Pretty good.

Tim Pool (45:16)

Yeah, it dropped recently. They say that old school big families were 4 to 6, but those are becoming more rare because fertility is still declining.

Kai Schwemmer (45:26)

Well, and so I have multiple friends that I know that grew up in families of like 11 kids. Wow. Yeah, it was awesome. And you know, as time goes on, you know, you mature. I originally was like, well, you know, maybe I want to have two kids. Then I would say I want to have 2.1. Like just to get to the replacement rate. People would be like, how do you have 0.1% of a kid? And it's like, you don't get it. But the idea now and that the idea that everybody has to adopt is I won't have as many as the Lord will give me. It's like I will have as many as he will provide.

Tim Pool (45:56)

I figured it out. We need to do a show called Top Mom. It's a reality show where moms compete to get their kids ready and do motherly things to be the best mom.

Kai Schwemmer (46:09)

Yeah, there was something called Mom Talk and then eventually ended up becoming a thing called the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which is anti LDS propaganda. That's. And that's literally what it is. It's an attempt to like reduce. Take this conservative population that has a lot of kids and tell everybody like, oh well, it's a cold or it's not a cult. It's actually like a bunch of weird sex stuff and they're all swingers. It's like, no, it's none of that. And the fact that they're trying so hard to tell you that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are all of these like caricatures proves that there's something that, you know, this kind of liberal sect of the population is worried about. And it's very self conscious. You know, that's the thing.

Tim Pool (46:44)

I used to love south park recently. It's just been highly esoteric anti Trump. I watched this really vid this really funny video where they were like, south, South. An example of how bad south park has gotten is that they did an episode making fun of Dan Scavino. Like who the f knows who that is? Literally only the most hyper partisan, politically brain rotted Democrats know who Dan Scavino is and they did an episode mocking him. The reason I bring this up is famously south park mopped the mocked the LDS church. But they also did an episode where when Stan was criticizing this family, they were like, look, we've been nothing but nice to you and you're a dick.

Kai Schwemmer (47:22)

Yep.

Tim Pool (47:23)

And those are also a really great commentary on the outside perceptions of, you know, other faith based groups or religious groups. They don't do that anymore. But I bring that up because when as you're mentioning Secret Lives of Mormon Wives or whatever, you know, I know this might be offensive to a lot of other to various Christian groups, but whenever I meet someone is is the appropriate term like what do you say? LDS or more LDS is good lds. They tend to be the least degenerate, if not degenerate at all. Out of any group of people that I meet, I meet a lot of people claim to be Christian. And it's like. Well, you know, like you're trying, you know what I mean?

Kai Schwemmer (47:56)

Well, Tim, to your point, this is, I think, what has caused such a, you know, high level of social trust and social capital in Utah in particular. Obviously it's, you know, the comorbidity of having a high rate of, you know, LDs, like members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. But what it is is that the structure of the church is actually very. It's totally empowering of community organization. Nobody in the church is paid for anything they do. You know, you could have a bishop at the local level, anybody at the local level and even higher up, you know, they're not being paid for the work they do in the church, but they all have responsibilities. I have a responsibility in my, what we call a ward. It would be like a congregation to be the ward mission leader. Other people have a responsibility to do something as mundane as you know, which is not really mundane, but sounds mundane. Get the bread for the sacrament every Sunday. Something like picking up a loaf of bread. But everybody has a responsibility. And every single week there's an activity in.

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Kai Schwemmer (49:34)

neighborhood to get everybody together and do something called a family home evening. That's amazing.

Tim Pool (49:38)

Oh, that's great.

Kai Schwemmer (49:38)

It's amazing. And none of that exists because of the state. All of that exists because there is a larger institution that orients the souls of human beings to a higher object. And that's what we're missing.

Tim Pool (49:48)

Do you guys drink alcohol? Nope. Okay. That I'm okay with. But no coffee.

Kai Schwemmer (49:52)

No coffee.

Brett Dasovic (49:52)

No coffee.

Tim Pool (49:53)

That is devotion.

Brett Dasovic (49:54)

I was telling him, I was telling him before the show that I started watching a show. I do fall. I do have like a station, like a streaming channel called Up Faith and Family. And I watch shows on there. Cause I just like how not degenerate most of them are if anything. And I found a show from 2012 called Granite Flats. And I got done with the first episode, and at the end of it, Flash's logo. BYUtv, there is a Brigham Young University channel that produces original content. And this show came out in 2012. It's called granite Flats. And it's basically Stranger Things before Stranger Things even came out. Set in the 60s, no drinking is only shown in a negative light. So if you're drinking, you're kind of a piece of crap.

Kai Schwemmer (50:34)

It's like you drink and then you beat your wife.

Brett Dasovic (50:35)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (50:36)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (50:36)

Well, this one.

Tim Pool (50:37)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (50:37)

Like, that's basically what it is. And then. And then no coffee, no nothing. I was like a cop with. Not. With. No. Not a single cup of coffee. I don't buy any of that.

Tim Pool (50:44)

But you said before was hot drinks. But it's not about the hot drink. It's about the.

Kai Schwemmer (50:50)

Specifically coffee and tea.

Tim Pool (50:51)

Yeah, because you can make it. You know, chocolate's fine.

Kai Schwemmer (50:53)

Yeah, like, we have hot chocolate on the show.

Tim Pool (50:55)

Like a caramel. Caramel. A caramel ribbon. Crunch. Cappuccino is like. Like, how were they trespass in.

Brett Dasovic (51:01)

In the show? The cop is like. It's, like, completely antithetical to how men are portrayed now because he's kind of rude at first, but he's just shown as being like a dad who disciplines his kid while not being a bad person. He's just. He understands that the world requires discipline. And this was made in 2012.

Tim Pool (51:17)

And like, I. I got a question. What did Christians do that their kids grew up to be? Degenerates. And I'm not trying to. I'm not. I'm not trying to be a dick to Christians. But the only way this is possible is that many children of Christian families grew up. Up and don't take the faith seriously, didn't have a family. I understand economic pressures. I understand all that. But have they become liberal or secular and they've gone a different direction?

Kai Schwemmer (51:39)

Here's my theory. I thought about this a lot when I was serving my mission in Argentina, because I began to see this in some of the member families where the children had kind of left the church, but the parents really wanted them to come back. Whatever a parent does in an exception or extreme is going to be absolutely, like, multiplied by the children. Which means if the parents are very rigorous in following every kind of tenet of the Gospel, if they, you know, do daily scripture study, if they adhere very closely to the word of wisdom, the kind of dietary law we were talking about, then the children will be equally strict about it. You know, Oftentimes they'll do the whole, like, experimentation thing when they're younger, because it is a tendency of children to rebel. But if the parents allow for an exception to exist, that they then demonstrate to their children, saying, well, we don't drink alcohol because it's not something we should do as members of the church. But on a special occasion, the child will take that exception and they will multiply it by 10.

Tim Pool (52:34)

You know what I think? I don't think it's. When people say that kids tend to rebel, I think that's technically the truth. But in the modern condition, it's a dark thing. Whereas in the past it was a good thing. What I mean by that is, if you go back several hundred years, the kids rebelling wasn't like, I'm gonna do drugs and run away. It was, I'm gonna different to the way you told me to do it.

Kai Schwemmer (52:56)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (52:56)

So the dad would be like, this is what we do every day we come out. And the kid would be like, you're wrong. I'm going to try something different. This was iteration. This was at. You know, this sometimes would cause problems of age.

Kai Schwemmer (53:05)

Movie. Yeah.

Tim Pool (53:06)

Yeah. I mean, the kid might be like, did you like. When it comes to the farm, did you do this for the animals? Well, I tried it this way.

Tate Brown (53:11)

No.

Tim Pool (53:11)

Now we're going to miss this. Now it's children rebel, but it's always towards something that is deemed acceptable, not towards something that is unacceptable because humans want to. So when you have these rampant degeneracy among youth with crime, with gangs, with drugs, the kids see that and think it's socially acceptable. And they're only rebelling because they're trying to fit in with what they think is their peer group.

Kai Schwemmer (53:33)

And I think men actually do the opposite of this, where men, we like things that are not politically correct. We like the counterculture. This, I think, is the biggest threat to the right wing. The biggest threat to the right wing and to the Republican Party is that it is simply too okay and too normal to be right wing. Now, we can't claim that we are persecuted in the media the same way we could claim that 10 years ago. 10 years ago was crazy. The censorship was insane. Now, the majority of the podcasts you hear are right wing, which means that we no longer have the ability to say we are fighting, you know, the counterculture. There's a lot of cultural dominance, and people, if they are not committed enough to the political ideas and the ideology, they will stop fighting because they're not in it to win. They're in it because it's fun to be controversial.

Brett Dasovic (54:15)

I don't. Oh, God.

Tate Brown (54:16)

I was just gonna say, I mean, to your point, I mean, you're seeing it now where. Where there was this rebellion against the left and obviously that, like, culminated in the Trump 2024 election, actually. But the right wing lost its sex appeal. Right. Like, it wasn't edgy or cool or sexy to be right wing anymore. So that's why you're now seeing attractions to, like, third rails. Like, you're seeing a lot of. And I'm. There's, like, multiple that exist. Like, it's really fascinating to see, and I think it's. Yeah. A lot of young guys are just like, well, this is kitschy now.

Kai Schwemmer (54:40)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (54:41)

What's. What's next? What. What's sexy? What's intriguing? What's problematic?

Tim Pool (54:44)

The interesting thing is, I think, think we see online claims, like, Tucker Carlson posted this graphic that he has 56.8 million viewers per episode, which is just not real. I'm sure his show. I'm sure his show is very big and he does very well. He does get over a million, sometimes two, on his YouTube channel, which is fantastic. He has one of the biggest podcasts in the world. But 60 million is a gross overestimation, the response you get. I made a tweet about it where I. I said, people don't understand the magnitude of this reporting. This means he's seven times bigger than Joe Rogan on YouTube and 20 times bigger in general. The big, biggest podcast that has ever existed. The people don't like Tucker all said, you're joking. This is like, this is insane. And the people all like Tucker are like, clearly you don't understand how popular, you know, popular it is to break the cult. And I'm just sitting here thinking, like, do people not realize that it's all fake?

Kai Schwemmer (55:33)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (55:33)

My point is, right now, we actually don't know what is or is not the top spot. Everything's decentralized. Right. So I'll give you an example. Shout out to Ashley St. Clair. She's been calling out Maga for a while because, you know, the whole thing with Elon, the falling out. But the left hates her guts.

Kai Schwemmer (55:52)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (55:53)

I've been seeing these threads on posts. Well, threads on threads.

Brett Dasovic (55:56)

You're gonna say you were looking at threads.

Tim Pool (55:58)

Dude, I was. I look at threads periodically.

Kai Schwemmer (56:00)

Threads is awesome because it's like, whoa, there's just left Wingers.

Tim Pool (56:04)

They're insane. There's insane. Like, here. Here's the thing, as much as People on the right are posting like, oh, Ashley St. Sinclair is talking about people on the right. The perception on the left is that she is a right wing grifter. They, they hate her. And you know, I see these, these conversations on X. What I think is happening is everybody is kind of fractured right now. The political space is boring. So I'll give you a couple examples that of what I think is happening, the general idea is nothing's really going on in politics that matters for the average person. So viewership is down across the board. When Swalwell was accused of raping those women and drugging them, just mercilessly beating and raping those women, those horrifying accusations. We got over a million views on our, on our IRL episode, which we normally do, like 600k. I did an episode of my morning show last week that has about 800,000 views. What typically gets 200 because of the Supreme Court ruling. And so I've got three or four videos talking about the Supreme Court issuing a ruling on the midterms and they're all like 301's upward of 800,000. When something actually happens of merit in politics, viewership just spikes back up. Then in the meantime, we're kind of trailing off and there's not a whole lot going on. People have become desperate and a lot of people are trying to latch onto something and claim something is or is not big or popular. And everyone's fighting over what they think think is in. I think the truth is none of it is in what's in. Look at the search trends. Sports.

Tate Brown (57:31)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (57:31)

Who? Baseball, basketball. And I'm happy to say it, but I think in the next few months we're going to start seeing all of the space coalesce around key points. People are going to forget the conversation about. Well, I don't think they'll forget the conversation about Trump and Tucker and all that stuff. But a lot of this infighting will slowly dissipate when big key issues emerge. Like redistricting will be a key one. This is what I think we're seeing. Swalwell's a rapist. Well, guess what? If you're right leaning, you're, you're like, get them out of there. If you're left leaning, you're like, get them out of there. So everyone's kind of unified in that point, but. But then when that goes away, everyone kind of spreads back out and fights again. So I think it's all going to come back together slowly in the next few months.

Tate Brown (58:13)

That's why I made that point on Twitter where I was like, does anybody remember when Elon crashed out and like on Trump and formed a third party? And everyone was like, oh yeah, could you imagine if like Bill Gates and George Bush like beefed back in the day? That would have been anyone all anyone talked about for like a year. But since it happens now, like it all moves so quickly. I'm like, the reality is the biggest show on TV right now is probably hand like Hannity's probably the biggest show

Tim Pool (58:35)

and his new podcast.

Kai Schwemmer (58:36)

By the way.

Tim Pool (58:36)

Let's, let's jump to the story. We've got this from Yahoo News Judge apologizes to White House correspondents Dinner shooting suspect after expressing grave concern about his treatment in jail I kid you not, the degree to which this country is foregone is laughably absurd. Jeanine Pierre, the U.S. attorney for D.C. said Sunday that a buckshot pellet from Cole Allen's shotgun was found lodged in the bulletproof vest worn by a Secret Service agent who was shot. The judge apologizes. Whatever you've been through, I apologize for the prior week, magistrate Judge Zia Faruqui Farouki said during a hearing in D.C. at multiple points, Farooqi compared the conditions of Allen's confinement those of the people charged with crimes in January 6th. This is not the jail's first go around that people engaged in alleged political violence. So here's what I see is going to happen. There are a lot of people that are claiming it's staged, Trump is faking it. But there are a lot of people on the right who are still conservative leaning and they are going to rally around this idea right now that J6ers were abused mercilessly and this judge is apologizing to a suspected assassin. This is top of the mountain level political division. This is a guy who is on camera charging the security checkpoint, shooting a guy with a shotgun and then being subdued trying to kill Donald Trump. And a judge is defending is apologizing to him. This is going to be the kind of thing that starts reigniting heavy peak left versus right, meaning the left is going to coalesce around an idea. The right is going to start calling us around an idea. And then you're going to find as we move forward for the next several years, or at least for now, I would say as we get a primary season, here's what's going to happen. In about three months, the right is going to start to unify for the most part not completely, that will will stick around for a few months and then the Primary season is going to kick in in a year. We're going to start seeing people campaigning, trying to generate a bunch of attention. Mention. And the heavy primary season will begin in 2028. Or, I'm sorry, towards the end of 27 into 28. At this point, it's going to be balls of the wall, war on the right. They're going to be like, what do you mean? Marco Rubio, J.D. vance will mess you up. And then J.D. vance is going to be on stage being like, marco, you're a miserable loser and I can't stand you. And Rubio is going to be saying like, you were always second fiddle. Then after the primary is over, they're going to hug and they're going to kiss. The right's gonna come together for presidential election. Everyone's gonna act like it never happened.

Tate Brown (61:05)

Yeah. Literally, Trump was like, Meatball Ron and now he's like, he's the best governor in the country. It's like, yeah, but there's.

Tim Pool (61:10)

Bro, Meatball wasn't.

Brett Dasovic (61:12)

But there's still like people on X who argue, like, weren't you one of those Desantis guys back in me?

Tate Brown (61:17)

I do that.

Kai Schwemmer (61:18)

I was gonna say, yeah.

Tate Brown (61:19)

I like, Will, like, literally if I find out you were a former Desantis guy. It's like, it's like when you're arguing with a guy online, you see he has like a dead relative in his bio. It's like when I see they used to have Desantis tweets, I'm like, oh, my eyes light up. I'm like, it's over for you, dude.

Brett Dasovic (61:32)

No, it's when. It's like when you're arguing with a girl on Facebook and you find out she's a single mom.

Tate Brown (61:36)

Oh, dude. Yeah, it's the gold ticket. Yeah, it's the gold scar in Fortnite. You're just like, oh, baby. Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (61:44)

Well, this is what. You know why I think these next two years are so crucial? Because look, let's say the Democrats take the House. The next two years are just impeachment. The next two years. And I think impeachment is unpopular. People hate seeing this, like, whole rigamaroo. And even if Trump's favorability is down, I don't think there's favorability for him being impeached. And it is going to galvanize right wingers. The issue is that I think you're right. We're gonna see an all out war, but it's gonna be the left and the right who are both committed now to taking all of it very serious. Like we're redistricting, we're gerrymandering every spot. This is gonna go out into an all out kind of bloodsports. And I, by the way, think that this is always how politics works. I do not believe there is such a thing as politically neutral or completely bipartisan boundaries or districts. I think that is a fallacy. You're always prioritizing one interest to another, whether it's rural to urban, whether it is right to left, whether it is, you know, black to white. You're always prioritizing some interest when you draw up a boundary right or a district. So I think once we reject that paradigm, the imperative of the Republican Party needs to be to win. And I think if we then spend the next two years after, you know, going to war in the election time, you know, not really fighting hard if we are not willing to give it our all, if there is a Democratic president in 28, it is literally like so, so, so over for everybody.

Tim Pool (63:07)

I, you know, I'm not saying this is guaranteed or anything like this. I'm sure that variables are before us in the future which will change the way things are going to. But you know, if there was a pill that was beyond white pill into maybe like a transcendent pill where you take it and you become a being of pure light energy and blast off into space called being clear pilled. Well, I'm there. Like the redistricting stuff, the Democrats are losing massively with the Supreme Court ruling. It's looking like with this redistricting and with the 2030 census shit, Democrats will be a permanent minority. We fear Democrats becoming a permanent majority through illegal immigration and all the stuff they're doing. It looks like right now the dominoes are being set up. The Democrats will not be able to stop. The destruction of USAID stripped their political power to a degree I don't think people realized. Now it looks like Trump has gained such a tremendous advantage, his enemies will not be able to realign. It's like, like in a chess game where if you are unlearned, you watch a move and then the other guy look.

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Tate Brown (66:08)

Well, yeah, but the question mark too is immigration. Because I mean, it's like, okay, it's great that we're getting all these victories racked up, but it's like you go to Dallas and you know, you feel like you're in like, you know, like Mumbai or whatever. Like it's unbelievable. So I'm like, you're seeing some of these red states slowly start shifting left and you're seeing with the state of Texas and again like there's all this chest beating online. But I'm like, like, dude, if we don't do re migration, we're cooked.

Tim Pool (66:29)

Yes. And what do you think happens when you have a 48 vote majority?

Tate Brown (66:33)

Well, if that's the case, then it's like they better get it done. But I mean a lot of.

Kai Schwemmer (66:37)

Yeah, I think as it stands right now, the precedent does not, you know, give us much courage as to the idea of free migration, you know, coming up in Congress.

Tate Brown (66:44)

Yeah, it's certainly not coming up from Congress. I mean one point you made that's very valid though is people do need to understand like this is actually like the state of being for politics because like this idea of like civil, like oh, we just disagree but like we're all Americans in the day. That was like a very post war consensus. But if you go back through American history, I mean, hello, gerrymander. That comes from Elbridge Gerry. He was the governor of Massachusetts, like 1812 and he drew that salamander district. Yeah, we had John Adams and Thomas Jefferson like calling each other pedophiles and stuff. Dude, this is like how politics. Yeah, this is how politics is. So this weird like post war it's like. No, actually everyone does kind of view it as civilizational, as existential. The problem, I agree that electorally we're heading in the right direction, but again immigration, it's all downstream from immigration because we cannot get the lid on it.

Kai Schwemmer (67:28)

And that's why this last year has been so, so, so important for immigration. This is why deportations need to be higher than where they're at is because you know, literally if this issue is, if we can't execute in a way that retains the popularity, if we can't realize that look, look, it is going to be ugly. When was the last time you saw a guy get arrested for anything and they were having a good time? Never. If we can actually go through with these deportations and you know, truly make systemic changes that stop mass migration going forward, then we lose. Like I don't think there's a way back on the immigration issue. If we botch it now, the calculation,

Tim Pool (68:03)

if Republicans redistrict every VRA district and then with the 2030 census, this, in 2032 it will be 190 Democrat to 245 Republican. And that is not by popularity, that is by procedure. Now again, what you got to factor in here is that we're talking about six years from now. That means a 12 year old will be voting. There's going to be a massive demographic shift. A lot of boomers are going to die. So trends will change, but.

Kai Schwemmer (68:33)

And like a third of Gen Z this day.

Tim Pool (68:35)

Yeah, yeah, but I don't actually don't think that means a whole lot because what the Republican represents today isn't, is we do make the joke that, you know, 20 years from now, the Republican Party will be gay communists and the Democratic Party will just be pure AI. I do think, however, Republicans already have a lot of gay dudes and there's actually a handful of trans Republicans as well. Because Republicans are. And it's true, they exist. And they're conservatives. They vote for trans Trump because they don't want communism. They want free market and they want meritocracy.

Kai Schwemmer (69:08)

But I will chop off my penis. But communism, now that is a lie.

Brett Dasovic (69:14)

You go to war with the team you got.

Kai Schwemmer (69:16)

That's the new Tucker Carlson line, is that. Well, the issues that people really care about are economic. And it's not about whether you retain your penis. It's really, frankly, more about the capital gains tax.

Tate Brown (69:27)

Actually, actually, actually, the penis is kind of metaphorical. It's like, well, the penis means a little more than just the device. It's like, well, it's in your heart, it's in your soul, man. Unironically real.

Kai Schwemmer (69:40)

This is, you know, the LDS perspective. Gender is. It's premortal. You know, you have always been a man or a woman. We are maximalists on this position.

Tate Brown (69:48)

Oh, by the way, like, when people always do this hypothetical with me, they're like, but just imagine you're in a Honduran migrant. I'm like, I can't. I only exist in the context of American. Like, I'm being unironic. It's like, I can't actually do that because I would be a different person.

Tim Pool (70:00)

I could imagine being Superman or Spider man, but not a Honduran migraine. I mean, that's just weak.

Kai Schwemmer (70:03)

That's true.

Tate Brown (70:04)

Real.

Kai Schwemmer (70:04)

When I watch the movie, I'm like, you know, I relate a lot more with Spider man than with the kid he's helping.

Tim Pool (70:09)

Well, to be honest, I have to. I think this is actually true. The average American relates more to Superman in Superman than they would to a Honduran migrant. Because Superman is written to be a traditional American upbringing, but with super powers.

Kai Schwemmer (70:25)

You know what? You know what? This is the big issue. The issue in America started when people stopped identifying more with Captain America and more with Iron Man.

Tate Brown (70:31)

That's real. Well, in addition to that.

Tim Pool (70:33)

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Kai Schwemmer (70:34)

What? That's true.

Tate Brown (70:35)

That's a true.

Kai Schwemmer (70:36)

That's a true.

Tate Brown (70:36)

By the way, also, what do you mean by that?

Kai Schwemmer (70:39)

Captain America represents an idealist. America represents the culture and identity and the sacrifice for the nation. You know, when you look at Steve Rogers, he's jumping on the grenade. It is self sacrifice. In the pursuit of American greatness. Iron man is the womanizing capitalist who of course, you know, there's more.

Tim Pool (70:58)

Gave up womanizing, got married.

Kai Schwemmer (71:00)

True.

Tim Pool (71:00)

And then tried sacrificing his life, but survived and then ultimately sacrificed himself to save the other.

Kai Schwemmer (71:05)

But when people like Iron man, they don't like him. They don't like him for the fact that he overcame womanizing. They like him because he had that like quippy one liner to like the girl in Iron Man.

Tate Brown (71:14)

He's right.

Tim Pool (71:15)

Well, so we got company. It is a good point, but there's something that should be added to it. The original character was intended to be despicable, but you had to support the hero. So antihero. It wasn't an anti hero.

Kai Schwemmer (71:27)

Oh, okay.

Tim Pool (71:27)

Because antihero is like Punisher.

Tate Brown (71:29)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (71:29)

He kills people, but he's trying to stop bad guys. He's just really bad when he does it. Iron man was a hero who saved people, but he was an alcoholic, chain smoking womanizer. And so he was morally degenerate. But doing good things, that was the, that was the challenge. Well, people liked his character and he was okay. He was always like a B tier hero until the movie came out and Robert Downey Jr. Nailed it. The thing is, the character they made was never that in the first movie. He is, but he's instantly. Not by the end he's already in

Brett Dasovic (71:59)

Afghanistan like 10 minutes into the movie. Movie.

Tim Pool (72:01)

Well, the point is the character was supposed to be what you're describing, but the movie is about him becoming a hero. And then from after Iron man through the mcu, he's just a hero.

Tate Brown (72:09)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (72:10)

He's just a good guy. Yeah. People, he's, he's having, he's got a relationship. He's not cheating on his wife.

Brett Dasovic (72:15)

The, the thing about Captain America too, I think for a lot, like you can tell Hollywood looking up their nose at like at him as. Him as naive.

Kai Schwemmer (72:22)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (72:22)

Like in a lot of ways, like they portray him that way. There's a reason why they make the jokes about him and him and Bucky being gay.

Tim Pool (72:28)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (72:28)

Because they, they want to kind of turn him into a caricature in a of lot.

Tim Pool (72:32)

I gotta stress this point. At every opportunity, conservatives dropped the ball with Captain America. I think it was what, 2010 when that movie came out. And you hear from so many conservatives saying, it's for kids. You're right. It's for kids. Bring your kids and explain to them why it's a good movie. Make them want to be Captain America 100%. He lied five times trying to join the army, but he was too frail and weak and they wouldn't let him. And then based on his strength of spirit, he was chosen for an experimental drug program, which I don't recommend you get your kids involved in, but he becomes the guy willing to throw himself on the grenade. And what I love, the scene is so great when. What is it? Tommy Lee?

Tate Brown (73:10)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (73:10)

He's like, we want grit. And he pulls the dud grenade and throws it and then he jumps on it. Exemplifying what spirit meant. The important thing to understand is this is a movie that came out saying, sacrifice for your country and for your countrymen. Be the guy who's gonna make that sacrifice play. Conservatives don't come out and celebrate Captain America and say, this is what America's all about. They largely did nothing, but they did buy tickets and that was good. However, when woke movies happen, conservatives complain. Yeah. My point is when conservatives movies happen, it's taken for granted. That being said, oh boy, did they learn their lesson. And they're bringing back Chris Evans to be Steve Rogers because. Well, yeah, when they had Thor, a gigantic 6 foot 5 rip Dude, Captain America, the true American soldier, and Iron man, the American industrialist turned hero, they were making billions of dollars per movie. When they got rid of that and went for dainty women who complain all the time, they lost everything. They made Thor Fett, and now they're realizing they have to. Oh, everyone was pissed about that. They ruined the character. They brought in Captain Marvel. When I was in the theater, this is six, seven years ago now. Now everyone groaned when Thanos headbutts her and she does nothing. They were systematically dismantling what this like massive movie franchise had built with billions of dollars. My point ultimately is, I would add on to your point and say this country started to take a turn when people stopped identifying with Captain America, Iron man and Thor and tried to force us to identify with Captain Marvel.

Tate Brown (74:43)

Yeah, that's real. And also like Captain America, it's proof that the halo effect is real. Because like everyone was like dunking on him like you're gay or whatever. And then he like ascended and he like turned into like this chat or whatever. And then everyone was like, this guy is sick, by the way. Can you just be in charge of the military? Like, that's proof the halo effect is real. In addition to that. In addition to that, you remember when he killed Solemni? And then there was like this Iranian press release where they're like, we can't kill their heroes because their heroes are SpongeBob or whatever. I was like, yeah, SpongeBob's awesome. He's falchion. He's like, he's like a true, like, like philosophical king. We don't worship Patrick. He's an oaf. He's a loser. He lives under a rock. But like spongebob, he's always up to these schemes. He's always like, just shooting for the stars. Everyone loves him, he's a good friend. Everything about him is like the archetypical, like Patriot Chipper and Jovial. Chipper. Yeah. So it was like the attacks. The Iranians like thought that was like a cook. They felt they cooked with that. And I was like, no, actually we do think SpongeBob's awesome. He's our hero, by the way. Cause like, it's true.

Kai Schwemmer (75:34)

Yeah. The moral of Captain America, the first Avengers, you know, take your kids to see the movie so that they, you know, are willing to die in Iran and put them on human growth hormone.

Tate Brown (75:46)

Yeah, real.

Kai Schwemmer (75:48)

If they release it now. If they do. Chris Evans with Captain America.

Tim Pool (75:50)

Now he's back.

Kai Schwemmer (75:51)

We got big problems.

Tim Pool (75:52)

He's back.

Kai Schwemmer (75:52)

Yeah, but if they release it now, what is it?

Tim Pool (75:57)

Yeah, so. And what September is the re release of End Game.

Brett Dasovic (76:01)

I don't know about that. I know Spider man is in July.

Tim Pool (76:04)

And Avengers, they're re releasing End Game with new footage.

Kai Schwemmer (76:07)

October, we got what, Batman 2 in October.

Tim Pool (76:09)

It's garbage.

Brett Dasovic (76:10)

Not this. Not this year. Next year.

Tim Pool (76:12)

No, it's this year. You liked the Batman?

Kai Schwemmer (76:14)

Absolutely.

Tim Pool (76:15)

Where he was, he. He couldn't read properly and he was falling and getting hurt. That's not Batman.

Tate Brown (76:19)

He's the goat. He was the goat.

Tim Pool (76:20)

Batman patbat goat. No, he failed skill Watch. Batman is not supposed to fail. They are intentionally trying to ruin the character. And then he got attacked for his white privilege. You like that movie.

Kai Schwemmer (76:32)

Attack for his privilege.

Tim Pool (76:33)

Catwoman was black and she accused him of having white privilege.

Kai Schwemmer (76:37)

Here's the problem. You believe that Catwoman was a hero in the movie.

Tim Pool (76:40)

No, I don't.

Kai Schwemmer (76:41)

Okay, good. Because a lot of people say, you know, all the people that they make out to be bad are white guys. And it's like, well, only if you think that Batman. Only if you think the seductress, you know, Catwoman.

Tate Brown (76:51)

Jezebel.

Kai Schwemmer (76:52)

Yeah, Jezebel.

Tim Pool (76:53)

Batman is not supposed to fail. The point of Batman is that his superpower is called peak human. In comic book lore. Batman is a regular human who is maximally intelligent and Mac and physically capable with the maximum human technology, which makes him the most Formidable superhero. The point is.

Kai Schwemmer (77:12)

The point is this comics though.

Tim Pool (77:14)

Batman is supposed to be the most powerful hero in existence. The argument is that Batman can defeat any villain with prep time. And the important thing about Batman, what I love about Batman as a character is he's just a man.

Brett Dasovic (77:27)

But they took the story from Batman. I agree with you. I hated that movie.

Kai Schwemmer (77:31)

Oh, my God.

Brett Dasovic (77:31)

But. But they adapted stuff from Batman year one, which does have those.

Tim Pool (77:35)

I get it. It's bad. It's bad.

Kai Schwemmer (77:37)

I think it's the.

Tim Pool (77:38)

The. The argument is like when Batman first thought he was bad. No, no, no.

Brett Dasovic (77:41)

It's integral to storytelling to show him actually evolve into the. To the world's greatest.

Tim Pool (77:45)

No, they keep doing this. Have you noticed this? They keep trying to do the. We don't actually see the character. Be the character till the very end of the film.

Brett Dasovic (77:53)

DC sucks and they have to keep rebooting it.

Tim Pool (77:55)

Agreed. It's bad. Bad.

Tate Brown (77:56)

They've made, like, Batman. Which Batman movies.

Tim Pool (77:59)

The faults Batman was supposed to be having was as a very young man, not. I'm gonna put on the suit, be Batman, and f everything up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Tate Brown (78:06)

But.

Kai Schwemmer (78:06)

But this man was always his first year of being Batman.

Tim Pool (78:09)

It was incorrect. Batman's first year of being Batman was when he's a little kid and he fell into the cave. And that's explicit in the lore when he says that's when he became Batman. And more importantly. More importantly, I can't remember exactly who it was.

Kai Schwemmer (78:22)

Car has blue.

Tim Pool (78:23)

There was. All the superheroes were standing around, and Martian Manhunter was like, you're Clark Kent. You're Wally West. And he looks at Batman and he's like, I don't. What's your name? And he goes, batman. And he's like, why can't I find out your name? Because that's my name. The point is, Batman became Batman when he was a little kid and he fell in the cave. That's when his identity changed.

Kai Schwemmer (78:41)

That's when Batman Day 1 is bad.

Tim Pool (78:43)

Was a little kid and he started training and he was bad at being Batman as a kid and a teenager. By the time he was a young man, man committing fighting crime, he was formidable, super intelligent. I don't like that. I don't like that movie. Let's. Let's jump to this next story and talk about kids who can't read good and stuff. It's from the New York Post.

Kai Schwemmer (79:01)

Talking about Batman.

Brett Dasovic (79:01)

Derek Zoolander.

Tim Pool (79:03)

Derek Zoolander. School. This is crazy. High school student exposes classmates. Abysmal Reading skills as they struggle with words like silhouette and extraordinary.

Kai Schwemmer (79:13)

Real.

Tim Pool (79:14)

I try to say it as pompously as possible. Possible. This is wild. So basically this dude went around in a prep school and I believe most people who's asking were black. And he asked them to read. These are high school kids who can't read. They got a reading level of like second, first or second grade. Now the school is threatening to expel him. They're trying to kick him out of the school because he exposed the grift. Let me play this video for you. Check this out. Read the indiscar for me.

Tate Brown (79:40)

She were a suit.

Tim Pool (79:42)

Okay, okay, okay. He's giving them a note card that says she wore a silhouette of clothes that were extraordinary but somewhat gauche.

Brett Dasovic (79:51)

Clothes that were.

Tate Brown (79:56)

Who's this for? Extraordinary but somewhat Gertrud. Now explain what that means. I don't know.

Tim Pool (80:07)

She were a. Of clothes that were extraordinary. Whatever, bro.

Tate Brown (80:14)

But somewhat.

Tim Pool (80:16)

What does that mean? She wore a lot.

Tate Brown (80:18)

Wait, she were.

Kai Schwemmer (80:19)

Bro. I don't know.

Tate Brown (80:20)

Bro, can you take the car back, please? She wore a. Oh, baby. To wear a silhouette of clothes that were. I don't know.

Tim Pool (80:33)

That way. I don't even know how to me. I don't know why I didn't.

Tate Brown (80:35)

You were silhouette of clues that were extraordinary but somewhat. Gosh. All right. Now what does that mean?

Tim Pool (80:44)

That wasn't bad. I have no idea. And to be fair, like my.

Brett Dasovic (80:48)

Somebody used G in a sentence. Probably making fun of the manual.

Kai Schwemmer (80:51)

Well, I haven't heard that word maybe ever.

Tim Pool (80:54)

Maybe that's. I, I, I, I read probably like a million words a day. So it's, I'm constantly, you know, reading these words. My, my context on gauche would be like tacky, but I looked at the definition and it's somewhat different. So I'll, I'll, I'll give it to somebody if they say gosh or gauche. Like this dude did fine. He read the words and the fact he doesn't know.

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Tim Pool (82:00)

It's a ridiculous sentence. She wore a silhouette of clothes that were extraordinary but somewhat gauche. What is it actually describing to any rational, normal person? It's. It's utter nonsense.

Brett Dasovic (82:08)

The sound effects here are also for maximum effect for all this stuff.

Tim Pool (82:12)

Like, you can't wear a silhouette.

Tate Brown (82:14)

Oh, my gosh.

Brett Dasovic (82:15)

Like, this could be me on PCC at any given time if I'm reading.

Kai Schwemmer (82:18)

I don't know what this.

Tim Pool (82:20)

I don't know what this. I can't read it. Can't read it. Can't read it, dude.

Kai Schwemmer (82:26)

He couldn't give machine dude.

Tim Pool (82:28)

No, I like what. I gotta be honest, though. Like, it takes the most pretentious mind possible to say a silhouette of clothes that were extraordinary but quite. Gosh.

Kai Schwemmer (82:38)

What I think is funny too, is. Is. Is the difference. You know, perhaps the difference here is underlighting the fact that. That your response was to say this sentence doesn't make any sense. Why would somebody say this sentence? And we're like, they're kind of stuck on spelling bees.

Brett Dasovic (82:53)

Like, aren't spelling bees specifically does. Or like, anytime they do those things, they have to. They get. They say, can you give it to me in a sentence? And they do something like that.

Tim Pool (83:01)

That matters. So this dude read the sentence and he doesn't understand what's trying to be said. I actually. I don't know why they're trying to criticize this guy. Guy. I think it's fair. What is the idea? Okay, I just want to say this real quick. Yeah, leftists do this all the time. How about you said she wore nice clothes that were somewhat tacky. How about you just say it in a way that regular people can understand what you're saying instead of trying to sound like a pompous dick. And so for this kid to read it, and he did read it, and then go, I don't know what that means.

Kai Schwemmer (83:28)

You stand with you.

Tim Pool (83:29)

I stand with you, brother. I think it's a pretentious statement. And she wore a silhouette of clothes as a meaningless way of framing. She wore nice clothes.

Kai Schwemmer (83:38)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (83:38)

That being said, they should be able to pronounce silhouette and.

Tim Pool (83:41)

No, no, I'm just saying this one guy. The rest of them are dumb as a box of rocks. And that's my feelings, because I like rocks.

Tate Brown (83:46)

It used to be my. My pet issue used to be the fact that, like, no kids can write in cursive anymore. Because I was like. That has a lot of implications. For one, no one can Read the founding documents. Yeah, like, when you go to the. I was like, overhearing people.

Brett Dasovic (83:57)

Blair. White conspiracy.

Tate Brown (83:59)

It might have been, but I was at the National Archives recently and I was like, listening over, like, listening to these. Like, they're like public school students on a school trip. Trip. And they were like, I can't make out any of these words or anything. I'm like, that's really sad. I mean, my mom, like, drilled in cursive so that I could read my grandmother's handwriting. And so that's always been my pet issue. Now I just want them to be able to read, like, read print.

Tim Pool (84:17)

But, dude, these kids live on tick tock and their brains are jello. So what do you think is going to happen in 20 years when boomers are going to have the equivalent IQs of like 700, because IQ is based on an average. So they're going to go to the younger generation and they're going to be like, like, please put the shape in the corresponding hole. And they're gonna go, I don't know what correspond, coruspin cora mean. And they're gonna be like, put the shape in the hole where it fits. I don't know how to do that.

Kai Schwemmer (84:44)

Have you seen the Baltimore accent video?

Tate Brown (84:46)

Oh, my God.

Tim Pool (84:46)

No.

Kai Schwemmer (84:46)

It reminded me of that.

Tim Pool (84:47)

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tate Brown (84:51)

Cavemen up there. Like, what's going on?

Kai Schwemmer (84:53)

Is that what we sound like? That's what I love is, you know. You know that there is an internal monologue. Like, you know that they are actually thinking about it, which is good. That's a white pill.

Tim Pool (85:03)

But the Earn, earn and iron earn. Do we talk like, that's so real. And of course, the sentence, Aaron earned an iron urn.

Kai Schwemmer (85:13)

Exactly.

Tim Pool (85:14)

That's the video.

Brett Dasovic (85:15)

There's a fundamental difference between reading and reading out loud for some people, too. Like, I. I can read and comprehend very well. My reading.

Tim Pool (85:26)

Hold on,

Brett Dasovic (85:29)

Aaron.

Kai Schwemmer (85:30)

Earn and iron earn. Damn.

Tim Pool (85:33)

What the.

Brett Dasovic (85:33)

We really talk like that?

Tate Brown (85:38)

They do.

Kai Schwemmer (85:39)

Internal model.

Tim Pool (85:41)

Let me see it.

Tate Brown (85:45)

Like seagulls.

Kai Schwemmer (85:47)

What?

Tim Pool (85:50)

You guys ever see the 30 rock? The rural Juror. So Jenna is cast in a movie called the Rural Juror. And she's going out and telling everybody. She's like, I'm in a new movie. It's called the Rural Juror. And they're like the roller. Like, no one can understand what she's saying when she says it. So as much as we're ragging on the Baltimore accent for that, there was a funny post on Reddit where someone said, how come after it Was like an East Asian guy who moved to America. A second language. English. English. And he said, how come everyone keeps saying chamingu after every. After every meeting? What? I can't figure it out. I've looked it up, but I can't find the word anywhere. They were saying, nice to meet you, but we add a cha. So we say, nice to meet you. And so is hearing chimichu or chimingu. And he was like, I don't know what that word is. And he couldn't look it up because we. We don't say dress. We say dress.

Kai Schwemmer (86:41)

Yep. Yeah.

Tim Pool (86:42)

J. We don't say train. We say charain. Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (86:44)

In Utah, we don't pronounce T's. In mountain, you know?

Tim Pool (86:47)

Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (86:47)

We'd say mountain. People would say mountain.

Tate Brown (86:49)

One thing I saw was, I'm gonna get in trouble. There is, like, Europeans dunking on this post. These Euros were like, americans are so

Kai Schwemmer (86:57)

stupid with the English.

Tate Brown (86:58)

And I was like, you're talking about black America. What they're doing is they. And just bear with me. They use, like, videos of black Americans. Cause they do like, they are, you know, they have different, you know, things going on, and they'll use that to, like, hammer all Americans. And I'm like. Like, there's a little. Philadelphia's a little different than the rest of the country.

Tim Pool (87:18)

So in Chicago when we were younger, we explained to people that if you wanted to speak Chicago street, every word has to be three letters. So a really good example of this is shachoeza. So S H U C H O A S S U H H. See, it's just.

Tate Brown (87:35)

It's the destruction of the English language. And they had this big fight. It was like 10 years ago. They had this big fight where they were trying to make Jamaican pigeon like an official. It's like, oh, it's accent. It's an accent, right? It's an accent. And I'm like, it's actually just a destruction of the English language. An accent is just different inflections. Like, you pronounce words separately, but literally removing words from the language. That's a different language. That's fundamentally a different language.

Tim Pool (87:56)

Here you go. Who wants to read this?

Tate Brown (87:58)

I'll read it.

Kai Schwemmer (87:59)

Just make sure there's no words like extraordinary or salute. Says ice explained why dem drag out Nigerian man from hospital for New York to arrest a AM that's not.

Tate Brown (88:10)

That's not English. That's not an accent.

Tim Pool (88:12)

This is the BBC butcher. You know what we should do? You know, I'm gonna do from now on Whenever I want like news on American politics. I'm just gonna read this.

Tate Brown (88:18)

It's so good.

Tim Pool (88:19)

United States Department of Homeland Security talk Sadam arrest one Nigerian men Chidozi Wilkson Okeke over Im alleged previous criminal record of assault and illegal drugs possession. Inside one footage way they circulate on top social media. He show how U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement agents drag Okk for floor with handcuffs after them drag m out of the hospital and put m inside the vehicle. The incident happen for white Keefe Heights

Kai Schwemmer (88:49)

Medical center for New York on Saturday.

Tate Brown (88:52)

Many of these anti ice agitators.

Tim Pool (88:54)

You know what's funny about this now?

Tate Brown (88:55)

It's like

Tim Pool (88:58)

it's phonetic Ebonic English is how they would describe it.

Kai Schwemmer (89:02)

I love it.

Tim Pool (89:02)

But the funny thing is, like, when they have to use proper phrases like assault and illegal drugs possession.

Tate Brown (89:08)

Yeah. Literally.

Kai Schwemmer (89:09)

They haven't found a way of changing that one.

Tim Pool (89:10)

Yeah, no, this is legit BBC.

Tate Brown (89:12)

This is BBC. And it's patronizing because if you go to countries where they do speak like a pidgin English, they just read English normally. It's just. That's the way that it comes out.

Kai Schwemmer (89:19)

It is. You know, once again, to quote the mathematician from Harvard Pigeon Normal. He talks about feelings of inferiority that leftists feel towards the groups that they claim to represent. And it is like this undermining, this demeaning way of talking to them like that. They are literally children, admittedly. Sometimes, like in the case of the reading, it's like, yeah, we have to address that. But this belittling of. They're like, no, no, no, we'll accept you.

Tate Brown (89:42)

Well, that's. And that wasn't even right like that. And that was my point initially where I was like Europeans dunking and saying, this is all Americans. Cause it's like if they were to speak precisely about what they're saying here, it would be the most unbelievably racist rhetoric you've ever heard in your life. The fact that the way they couch that is like all Americans. And I'm like, like, have you been to, like, Massachusetts?

Brett Dasovic (90:01)

That is the way.

Tim Pool (90:03)

All right, Tate, you're up.

Tate Brown (90:05)

We tend be the next team for Mali junta after coordinated attacks. Wake up a defense minister and recapture territory.

Tim Pool (90:12)

I have no idea what the story's about.

Kai Schwemmer (90:14)

You sound like the guy at the beginning of Black Ops 2.

Tim Pool (90:16)

Yeah, that's how that is.

Tate Brown (90:18)

How get the images.

Tim Pool (90:20)

I know.

Brett Dasovic (90:21)

I think those arguments happen on X though, right? Is everybody just broad brushes? Everybody from the country they're not living

Tate Brown (90:26)

in, but they're Broad brushing. Like. Like they know what they're doing.

Brett Dasovic (90:29)

You go to them and you're like, yeah, you can't even get, like, air conditioning in your country.

Tim Pool (90:32)

But.

Kai Schwemmer (90:32)

But sometimes they know what they're doing. Alpha male post from India. Sometimes it's okay to. You know, I think.

Tim Pool (90:37)

I think Tate's right and this is racism because it's like you're saying all of these people can read English. Yeah. They're not, but it's just an accent that they write the accent out because they're acting like these people are retarded.

Tate Brown (90:51)

Yeah. Literally. And I get. I get. I would put my bottom dollar that, like, if I'm know, if you live in Nigeria or Jamaica, they're just reading the normal BBC.

Brett Dasovic (91:00)

I guarantee they click on it sometimes,

Tim Pool (91:01)

like, what the hell is this?

Tate Brown (91:02)

We talk like that.

Kai Schwemmer (91:04)

Yeah. Literally. Literally what it is. Imagine if you tried to write out, like, earn, earn and irn earn in,

Tate Brown (91:09)

like, for the Baltimoreans, read. Oh, thank you. I was wondering what that said. Oh, extraordinary. Oh, yeah. Silhouette. Why didn't you just say that?

Kai Schwemmer (91:17)

And then you have, of course, once again, the left wing, you know, attempt to say, well, hold on. Saying Ebonics is racist. It's African American vernacular English.

Tate Brown (91:27)

Oh, I know. Have you seen what they've done in. They've done it in London where they're like, that's not like a black British accent. It's multicultural London, England.

Kai Schwemmer (91:34)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (91:34)

Like, I have no idea what this news story is about, to be honest.

Tate Brown (91:38)

He's the captain of Liverpool. Ah, Musala. We head next for the Egyptian king as they came out from Liverpool.

Tim Pool (91:45)

Does it mean come out?

Tate Brown (91:46)

What's next for. Okay, I'll translate.

Tim Pool (91:48)

Is that what calmont means?

Tate Brown (91:49)

Ahmed Saleh, the captain of Liverpool, he's leaving the club. So they're speculating what my. What transfer could he make? What you're in the know

Kai Schwemmer (91:57)

article actually is what.

Tate Brown (91:59)

Yeah, you see.

Tim Pool (91:59)

Come out.

Tate Brown (92:00)

Coming out from Liverpool, as in he's leaving the club. Yeah.

Tim Pool (92:04)

I can't believe this website exists, bro.

Kai Schwemmer (92:06)

This is.

Tim Pool (92:07)

To be fair. I can believe that it exists.

Kai Schwemmer (92:10)

To be fair.

Tate Brown (92:11)

In a matter of time coverage, you're like, yeah, that makes sense.

Kai Schwemmer (92:13)

Well, there was a funny. I don't know if you'd be able to find it. There was a funny skit on an English show where, like, there's a police officer dispatched to a rural area and you've got like, this rural farmer who says something like, with this very thick accent, and he's like, what did he say? And then asks A different cop or the guy, you know, the different cop translates it, and then the girl's like,

Tim Pool (92:33)

what did he say?

Kai Schwemmer (92:33)

And then one more cop, like, translates it to her.

Tate Brown (92:35)

Oh, yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (92:36)

Did you see that?

Tate Brown (92:37)

Well, someone made a point where they're like, the English are kind of like the Jedi in Star wars, where when they talk to, like, these disparate, like, accents in their islands, they can translate it to Americans. So you're, like, hearing a Scottish guy and he's like, he's hungry. He's hungry. Oh, thank you. The English are, like, the in between for us. We can understand, like, what these, like, Irish farmers are saying.

Kai Schwemmer (92:55)

Exactly.

Tate Brown (92:56)

It's so real. Like, my girlfriend's Scottish, but when I go to Glasgow, I don't know what anyone's saying to me. So, like, they'll say something. And she's like, oh. They're saying, how are you? And I'm like, thank you.

Kai Schwemmer (93:04)

That's so real. I was in. I was vacationing with my family in Germany, and, like, I know German. I lived there when I was really young. So it's my first language that I've retained well despite, you know, not speaking it and living in the States, I can still understand what people say, and I can speak it to the level of, like, you know, a kindergartner, because that's the age that I learned it at. But when we went to Swiss Germany, like, when we went to the southern part of, like, Switzerland, this is where I was listening to people. I'm like, are you even speaking the same language? It's the difference.

Brett Dasovic (93:35)

It was like a. That was like an inside joke. In the movie Uncharted, there's a character that's Scottish and every time talks. Every. Just because I have no idea.

Kai Schwemmer (93:41)

Yeah. Literally, it's like the difference between. And then the Swiss German is like.

Tate Brown (93:49)

I like the idea that, like, the southern German dialects have, like, a southern American accent, like a donkey.

Kai Schwemmer (93:55)

That's. That's not far off. That is.

Tate Brown (93:57)

Howdy.

Brett Dasovic (93:58)

I tried to watch, like, a Scottish show called Hamish Macbeth, and I made it, like, five minutes. I'm like, I can't understand a word these people are saying.

Tate Brown (94:04)

But even my girlfriend be like, I don't know what he's said. And she's, like, lived there for. I don't know what he's talking.

Tim Pool (94:09)

You laugh right when you watch, like, a Scottish sitcom and they're talking and you have no idea what they're saying, but you start laughing at the right moment.

Brett Dasovic (94:16)

Let's think. I was watching a drama, not a Comedy. So it's like, I'm like, I'm not supposed to be laughing.

Kai Schwemmer (94:20)

You're not tearing up.

Tate Brown (94:21)

Just, like, fitting.

Tim Pool (94:21)

I'm like, yeah, but that's, like, laugh tracks.

Tate Brown (94:24)

I love that.

Tim Pool (94:25)

You know, like, there's like, that old classic King of the Hill episode where. You guys ever watch that hill where Bobby's doing the morning announcements and he's telling jokes but nobody laughs? And then Peggy's like, because they're doing dumb. You got Tom win a laugh. So she hits the cowbell or whatever, and then they just laugh when they hear the cowbell because they're dumb.

Tate Brown (94:42)

Yeah, that's real. We need a laugh track on the show desperately.

Tim Pool (94:45)

That was, like,

Brett Dasovic (94:49)

finally got one on the PTC sound.

Kai Schwemmer (94:51)

Replace the laugh track with just multiple layers of Tucker Carlson's laugh. Actually, this chorus of Tucker Carlson laugh.

Tim Pool (95:01)

We used to have a laugh track in the early days. Days. And it was Reddit T. Tunberg saying, how dare you? And Eric Swalwell farting.

Tate Brown (95:08)

I like that. Is that an add to what we've got?

Kai Schwemmer (95:10)

You know, Gener.

Tim Pool (95:11)

I mean, the swallow farting was fun because, like, anytime, you know, if. If Adam would say something that was like, I. I don't think offensive the right word, but disagreeable with me, I'd be like, how dare you? And then if he said something that I felt was. And. And for both of us, if, like, I said something that he felt wasn't part of the conversation we're having. Like, you're debating and you change the subject, you change cheat an election.

Tate Brown (95:34)

Well, if we had the. If we had the track where Jerry Nadler like, blows out his pants, we'd be here all night. That thing was, like. Like long.

Tim Pool (95:41)

What?

Tate Brown (95:41)

You remember that video where Jerry Nadler just, like, blew his pants out?

Kai Schwemmer (95:44)

I have no clue what you.

Tate Brown (95:45)

Oh, dude, he, like, ripped one, and it was, like, five seconds.

Tim Pool (95:47)

Really? Yeah. I don't want to search for that video.

Tate Brown (95:50)

I'm not going to some disturbing things.

Tim Pool (95:52)

I will. I will live not knowing what you're talking about thing.

Tate Brown (95:55)

It's a good thing.

Kai Schwemmer (95:56)

First knowledge, rest in peace.

Tim Pool (95:57)

That is the funny thing, though. You ever. You guys ever watch those sitcoms without laugh tracks?

Tate Brown (96:01)

Ex. Oh, it's awesome.

Tim Pool (96:02)

They're nightmarish.

Tate Brown (96:02)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (96:03)

It's like Sheldon walks in and goes, penny, are you doing your nails? And then he just pauses for 20 seconds, and you're like, yeah.

Tate Brown (96:10)

They don't have the applause. Like, Kramer bust in. He's just staring at everyone. Oh, my gosh.

Brett Dasovic (96:15)

It's the best Way to understand, like, how miserable making sitcoms actually is.

Tim Pool (96:19)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (96:19)

Like, when the whole point is, like, you've got millions of dollars on the line, you better be funny. It's like there's no less funny time in history.

Tate Brown (96:26)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (96:26)

They're not even jokes. It's like I mentioned, Kramer slides in and just stands there. Could you imagine filming that? And it's like, okay, Kramer, you're gonna slide in and you're gonna stand there for 10 seconds and nobody move. You know who it is? That's the joke.

Kai Schwemmer (96:39)

That's. That's like. It's like Jared Lynch's rabbits. Have you guys seen that?

Tim Pool (96:43)

No.

Kai Schwemmer (96:43)

Oh, wow.

Tim Pool (96:44)

What is that?

Tate Brown (96:45)

Tough crowd.

Tim Pool (96:47)

We should do I should laugh track.

Tate Brown (96:49)

There was the one clip Michael Jackson, where he just popped out or David Lynch.

Kai Schwemmer (96:52)

What am I saying?

Tate Brown (96:53)

He stood there for, like 10 minutes. Minutes, and everyone's just losing their minds. That. That is like a real life. Yeah, that's like, real. That's aura. Like, people were like. I was reading that at the Jackson movie. People were passing out in the crowd, like, what?

Tim Pool (97:04)

Really?

Tate Brown (97:05)

Yeah. It's been like 15 years since he died or whatever, and he still just has that, like, resonant aura. Like, unbelievable.

Tim Pool (97:10)

That's kind of crazy. It doesn't exist really anymore, does it? Like, is there anybody like that right now?

Tate Brown (97:16)

Benson, maybe.

Tim Pool (97:18)

Maybe.

Tate Brown (97:18)

I was thinking that. I didn't want to say that.

Tim Pool (97:20)

Ian Benson.

Tate Brown (97:21)

Yeah, Ian has that effect. There's this one iconic clip of Michael Jackson where he's, like, in the back of his car or whatever, and like. Like a lady's trying to hand him something, and then eventually she, like, gets the guy to roll the window down and she passes to Michael and he, like, grabs her hand and she has like a. Like a, you know, a lady moment, like, right there in the car. And I'm like, can anyone.

Tim Pool (97:41)

A lady moment?

Tate Brown (97:42)

Yeah. I don't know if you can say it on YouTube. So I was like, oh, man. Like, can anyone.

Tim Pool (97:46)

She starts complaining.

Tate Brown (97:47)

Yeah. Can anyone pull that off?

Kai Schwemmer (97:48)

It's like Playboy car. Cardi now, you know?

Tate Brown (97:50)

Yeah, Cardi, I guess, fits that bill. Yeah, I would.

Tim Pool (97:53)

The best thing about podcasts is because they're all male, you can just make a living complaining about women, and men love it.

Tate Brown (97:58)

Yeah, it's real.

Brett Dasovic (97:59)

What's up?

Tim Pool (97:59)

Like. Like, Pearl figured it out.

Brett Dasovic (98:01)

Women love it.

Tate Brown (98:02)

Long hair.

Kai Schwemmer (98:02)

Women. Actually.

Tim Pool (98:04)

Women like watching.

Tate Brown (98:05)

No, no more than me, actually.

Tim Pool (98:07)

Women want to watch podcasts about women hooking up with guys or marrying strangers.

Kai Schwemmer (98:12)

Dude, that's. Yeah, that's actually so crazy is, you know, right wing politicians get canceled for, like, appearing on, you know, political podcasts. And then you have, like, presidential candidates who, like, go on podcasts to talk about, like, their sexual proclivities.

Tate Brown (98:25)

Oh, yeah, she's really like, yeah, I like Rufia. That guy. And then killed them. They're like, that's so relatable.

Tim Pool (98:30)

Top female podcasts.

Tate Brown (98:31)

Alex Cooper.

Tim Pool (98:32)

Top female podcasts. All of them tend to be. Not all. Well, I shouldn't say all of them, but 80% are women talking about, like, blowing dudes and true crime. Top male podcasts are talking about society and issues and politics.

Brett Dasovic (98:44)

I think true crime is higher than true crime. True crime and.

Tim Pool (98:47)

No, no, no. But true crime is. It's a woman's podcast, I think, so it's done.

Kai Schwemmer (98:52)

I've never listened to a true crime.

Tim Pool (98:53)

True crime is true crime with a large female audience. I'm saying women's podcasts are largely about sex and stuff like that, and men's podcasts are about culture, politics, and, like, health and fitness. And so you take a look at a show like this was largely a male audience. It's obviously a news and culture show. And we periodically talk about health, wellness, and sometimes entertainment. Women's shows are sauce.

Kai Schwemmer (99:17)

You know, I really want to come up with a counter example because I don't want to just be based, but I can't think of why.

Brett Dasovic (99:23)

I mean, it's. But it's like, it's not even necessarily just about the degeneracy of it. It's the fact that women are more interested in the interpersonal aspects of their. Of the people they talk about.

Tim Pool (99:33)

There are 12 different versions of Love is Blind. New Daddies. Yeah, we're like, I call it Married to Strangers. My wife loves it. And there's other shows just like it. There's also love on the spectrum that's so based. Women just want to watch people in relationships and, you know, that's their thing.

Kai Schwemmer (99:53)

It's like New Girl. It's like all of the sitcoms, you know. Yeah, it's all very relationship.

Tim Pool (99:57)

Well, the. The idea is the male power fantasy is being the hero who saves the day, saves the children, saves the one you love. And the female power fantasy is romping about doing whatever you want, causing a lot of trouble, but getting away with it in the end.

Tate Brown (100:09)

Yeah, literally. I mean, that's why. That's why, like, as soon as. As soon as we gave women the right to vote, they're like, how do I kill my kid? Can we get that legalized?

Tim Pool (100:15)

It's like, well, no, no, but in all seriousness, rom coms are like, the woman does something bad, continually makes. Causes problems, people. But everyone loves her, and in the end, she gets the guy. The movies that men like, it's the guy jumping out of a building and then throwing a dental floss around the. You know, the handle of the window swinging through the glass, you know, and then rescuing the baby.

Kai Schwemmer (100:36)

It's.

Tim Pool (100:37)

It's.

Kai Schwemmer (100:37)

It's the guy kissing the girl in the elevator and then like stomping a guy's head in in the same elevator.

Tate Brown (100:43)

That's like one movie ever Drive Real.

Tim Pool (100:46)

I actually. I actually literally think that in men's action movies, he does the kiss and then saves the day. The movie is usually like, the woman is slipping and falling as a skyscraper is collapsing, and he grabs her hand and saves her. Or better yet, Iron Man. Three missiles are launched into his home, and they're all being. He's falling down and Pepper's about to get hit, and so he throws his suit onto her to save her life, sacrificing himself in the process.

Brett Dasovic (101:11)

Spider man being able to save the day and save the girl.

Tim Pool (101:14)

Well, Spider man, when Green Goblin says, what will it be, Spider Man, Save your love or suffer the children. And Spider man saves both the children and his love.

Brett Dasovic (101:23)

That's what I'm saying. That's the ultimate power fantasy.

Tim Pool (101:25)

And the reason why they canceled the Amazing Spider Man, I think you got field. Is because he didn't save the girl.

Brett Dasovic (101:29)

She died.

Tate Brown (101:29)

Yeah. And you're.

Tim Pool (101:30)

The guys are like, I want to watch it.

Brett Dasovic (101:31)

And there would had to have been 60 characters in movie three if they wanted to outdo movie two.

Tate Brown (101:35)

And you're seeing this dichotomy in video games too, where, like, when I play a game, I, like, don't want to pick the mean dialogue option because I don't want to offend this poor person. And then, like, you watch women play like Sims and they're like, literally like eugenic systems, like, going on. They're like, yeah, they're like, literally committing.

Tim Pool (101:49)

I do love the meme of, like. It's the. The. There's a meme of like, like a. A crying cat. And it's like when I. When I beat the game and now try and do an evil playthrough and you get the first option to be evil. And they're like, I can't do it. Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (102:03)

No, dude, that's. That's. That's me. And with Red Dead Redemption man, so male about that, that game, I can't be mean.

Tate Brown (102:10)

Like, you know, it's because I don't want to hurt their feelings. And then, yeah, women are playing and they're, like, measuring, like, cranial measurements on their Sims.

Tim Pool (102:16)

Hold on. But hold on.

Brett Dasovic (102:17)

Accepted the premise that it is an evil playthrough. They do not believe that what they're doing.

Tim Pool (102:20)

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. I got to say, say this. So, like, you know, I play Baldur's Gate a million times. It's really hard to be evil and to be mean and nasty. Like, I don't want to do it. I want to help people. But I was playing Police Simulator the other day, and it was really easy to be a racist cop.

Tate Brown (102:34)

That would be. Yeah, it'd be kind of fun.

Tim Pool (102:36)

I literally would be kind of fun. So, bro, there's a video game called Police Simulator. And the only thing I don't like about it is there's no free play.

Kai Schwemmer (102:43)

Oh, yeah.

Tim Pool (102:44)

But so, like, the first mission is you have to go give parking tickets. But instead of doing that, I just started arresting all of the non white people.

Tate Brown (102:50)

Let's go.

Kai Schwemmer (102:51)

And somehow I. Racist cops.

Tate Brown (102:54)

Somehow I.

Tim Pool (102:54)

Like, I was just scoring crazy points. No, okay, I'm joking. But I will tell you something really crazy about the game.

Kai Schwemmer (102:59)

I always do.

Tate Brown (103:00)

It is.

Tim Pool (103:01)

It is fun. It is a fun game. It is kind of silly, but I gotta say this. You can stop people and frisk them. And so I was not actually doing a racist playthrough. I was just joking. But I did notice in the game, all the black people had illegal handguns. I'm not kidding. Okay, like, we have it upstairs. I swear to God.

Kai Schwemmer (103:21)

That's a fallacy, though.

Tim Pool (103:22)

You walk up policing. You walk up to a guy and he goes like, hey, there, officer. And I go, you know, hold on there a minute. I'm gonna need to search you. And it's an illegal search, but I don't care because it's funny. And then he's got, like, dental floss on him or some stupid thing. And then I'm like, okay, you're free to go. Then, like, a black. A black person's walking by, you frisk him, and it's like, he's got a gun and no permit. And you arrest him because you're supposed to. 1. There was one black woman sitting down, reading a book, and I walk up to her. She had switchblades on her, and I'm like, why is the game doing this?

Tate Brown (103:49)

Some games encourage that. Like, when I play City skylines, I have to, like, build the hood it feels wrong, but I'm like, these people, maybe they deserve it. I don't know.

Tim Pool (103:56)

Have you ever. Have you ever.

Brett Dasovic (103:58)

Was there a plant gun options? If they didn't have one, you could just plant it.

Tim Pool (104:01)

No, no. But you can falsely accuse people of crime. So, like, there was one, like, woman walking down the street, and I walk up to her and I was like, you're under arrest for attempted murder. And she's like, what? I didn't do anything. And then I was like, now you're under. I started adding charges to it. Yeah, I added resistance.

Tate Brown (104:16)

It's crazy. What does that to you? Because then, like, I'll do that one thing where I literally, literally, like, build Compton and city skylines, but then I'll be playing, like, FIFA and, like, my players leaving the club. And he's a young guy, he's moving on. But I have an option to give him, like, a mean, like, dialogue option. I'm like, I don't want to get in this kid. You know, he's got a bright future ahead of. I'm like, sitting here like, I'm a real manager. Did you ever see the city skylines? I'm like, yeah, we can just. Just, like, blow this up.

Tim Pool (104:36)

You see the video, the city skylines video where the guy was like, I'm going to just get rid of all government support, all welfare. You're on your own. It's all just pure capitalism. And then they all became extremely wealthy. There was no hood, there was no crime. There were ski resorts on every block. Even in la, he did a video where he's like, we're going to do all government support. And it was just ghetto destruction and crime.

Tate Brown (104:58)

Oh, I turned into, like, Robert Moses. I start blasting highways through my city center.

Kai Schwemmer (105:02)

I'm like, screw this.

Tate Brown (105:03)

These people interrupting progress. Ever heard of eminent domain? Yeah. Literally, that's what I'm doing. I'm just bulldozing, like, landmarks.

Tim Pool (105:09)

You think you own that land?

Tate Brown (105:10)

I love it.

Tim Pool (105:11)

You leased it from the state.

Tate Brown (105:13)

It's awesome. And then. And then I build the hood, and then I do a noise ordinance just to, like, really get under their skin. No more boom boxes. And you're going to read silhouette correctly when I'm done with this.

Tim Pool (105:21)

So I watched. I watched that movie. Good luck. Don't. Was it Good luck, have fun, don't die. And I don't recommend it it because it's another movie with no ending. And I'm just. I'm so sick of these movies. What is this trend, Brett, where they keep making movies that end in Act 2.

Brett Dasovic (105:38)

So that's what it feels like most of the things I see these days.

Tim Pool (105:41)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (105:41)

Or it feels like Act 2 and 3 just blend together so much. That doesn't feel like there's anything there. I'm worried that that's what's gonna happen.

Tim Pool (105:46)

Mortal Kombat, the movie is actually really good except for the fact it has no ending, which pissed me off. So I'm gonna spoil it for you because I'm pissed off it has no ending. So someone recommended the other day that I go watch it. So I was like, okay, I'll give it a shot. It's about a guy from the future where AI has taken over and everyone's enslaved by choice. They're all glued to their phones in VR and he warns everybody that if we don't stop the AI now, the future is going to be. Cities are falling apart. There's just everything's collapsed and the few humans who remain are just staring at their phones until they die. Yeah, and it's a good, it's a good general idea. There's this really funny scene where a guy breaks up with his girlfriend and he's like, I need to let you know that I'm transitioning. And she's like, what? And then he slides a brochure over and it's like, live in a pod. And he's going to go live in the pod and so he can live in VR forever. And she's like, this is insane. You can't leave me for a video game. So I respect that. The only problem is the. The movie ends with him being like, I finally figured out how to defeat the AI and the movie's over and I'm like, I have. So nothing happens. And then the time traveler guy says, oh, I can finally win. And then the movie stops.

Brett Dasovic (106:51)

The theory that I have as to why movies are the way they are now, at least in the negative sense, is that back in the day most movies in television were written by people that read books. And now you're watching movies that are made by people that watch that made that watch movies.

Kai Schwemmer (107:05)

That's a good point.

Brett Dasovic (107:05)

They didn't grow up reading or understanding, you know, how to write something in a three act structure. And they're kind of confined by the limitations of what they want movies to be in the idea of how the end rather than what it should be, which is to be written a specific way. And then the director.

Tim Pool (107:20)

How does that explain. No Act 3? What do you mean, how does that explain?

Brett Dasovic (107:23)

It means like likely when they wrote that movie, they didn't have the plan of creating it in the same three act structure that you say that you see now.

Tim Pool (107:30)

But movies did it literally be as simple as just.

Brett Dasovic (107:34)

It was brought down to editing, that they wanted to change it in case they wanted to do a sequel.

Tim Pool (107:39)

What was another. I saw another movie. I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm getting really pissed off because all these movies have no Act 3. So it's like for, for example, what, what do I mean by this? It'll be like, the evil shark man attacks Manhattan.

Brett Dasovic (107:51)

You're like, oh, wow.

Tim Pool (107:52)

You're like, let's watch the evil shark man. And then it, the movie starts with like a woman going and like trying to unlock her door. And then all of a sudden you see like a shadow behind her. She turns around, there's a giant shark guy and he bites her. And you're like, whoa, a shark monster. Then Act 1 is introducing the characters and they're talking about mysterious appearances. Then you get act two, they're confronting the giant shark man. And you're like, oh, man, I can't wait to take him down. But then Act 2 ends with the shark man running away and them going like, we gotta stop him. And then it rolls credits and I'm

Brett Dasovic (108:17)

like, yes, they need to make a sequel.

Kai Schwemmer (108:19)

Yeah. It goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning, about kind of the way that the entire society is just organized around the pursuit of these surrogate activities. The just generation of revenue without some kind of higher story or goal. You think about these old movies, right? Think about like, what is it? The one in Rome? It's the two part or it's not two part, but it's like you have a big intermission in the middle. What am I thinking of,

Tate Brown (108:46)

Troy?

Kai Schwemmer (108:47)

No, no, I'm drawing a blanket. It's an old movie. A lot of these old movies too, they had like this long intermission and then they would continue. I feel like we had more of that. But it is now that there's a pursuit of.

Brett Dasovic (108:56)

They can't make them that may anymore because the attention spans aren't there. Well, but my biggest complaint about the Batman was that it was 2 hours and 58 minutes and did not justify that run.

Tate Brown (109:05)

I need the intermission because I punished the freestyle machine and I'm like, like, I need, I need a.

Kai Schwemmer (109:08)

That's, that's the thing though is I feel like, you know, there is not the attention span. But the movies have gotten longer. You know, gone are the days where we had the hour and a half movie.

Tim Pool (109:16)

Yes, our movie.

Brett Dasovic (109:17)

No

Tim Pool (109:19)

back.

Brett Dasovic (109:19)

So I know there was a period of time in the early 2000s when movies were always approaching three hours. Oppenheimer was like three hours forever. But now like a lot of them have realized that, you know, an hour, 50 minutes, two hours, get in, get out is better. First of all, one, because you can have more showtime times if a movie is shorter, which is like Batman versus Superman was actually chopped to hell.

Tim Pool (109:41)

He sucked.

Brett Dasovic (109:41)

The point is it was chopped to hell from its original version cuz they wanted to be able to.

Tim Pool (109:45)

Your mom's name is Martha. My name. My mom's name is Martha. Can we be friends? That's the plot of the movie.

Brett Dasovic (109:49)

Just go watch Mask of the Phantasm instead. The animated way better.

Tim Pool (109:53)

Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (109:53)

But I, I think it is that though it's like everything now is structured to a goal. Like it's orienting you to a goal that really doesn't matter. And that's why for me, you know, my, my level of analysis, I wanted to touch on this earlier. This kind of reminds me of it. People just need to start doing new things. And as much as I like the idea of having a society where people commit themselves to something and get really, really good at it, I think the answer to that nowadays is you start doing things that you've never done before and allow yourself the discomfort of not being good at it. People now do one thing, they get extremely good at it. They specialize in it. But the over specialization is what's killing us.

Tate Brown (110:26)

That's real.

Kai Schwemmer (110:27)

Also, I think that's a huge issue. Be uncomfortable in a new job and then have the experience of getting really good.

Tate Brown (110:32)

If I don't immediately master the guitar, I'm just like, this is gay.

Brett Dasovic (110:34)

And people, people don't like. People don't like the idea of not feeling knowledgeable about something. The phone has done that to people. It's like now the idea is like growing up, if you didn't know the answer to a question that was okay, now you can actually be ridiculed because like you have the answer to literally every question in your pocket and you don't know the answer to this generic question that I have. So nobody wants to feel the discomfort of feeling like they don't know something. So they don't even want to try something new because it's just too long of a road.

Kai Schwemmer (111:00)

But the irony in that is that when you don't know something, you're actually at your peak. When you don't know how to do something. When you're new in a job, you are going to go the extra mile in all of the things you do know, and you will actually excel. Your learning speed is going to be much quicker than it would be otherwise. You're going to perform so much better when you're uncomfortable, so much better when you don't know what you're doing than when you've been doing it for so long that you just start to cut the corners that you know you can cut. And that's what I think people need. They need those moments where they are not good at something and that compels them to be better.

Tim Pool (111:32)

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Kai Schwemmer (112:27)

Is that a taxi cab?

Tim Pool (112:28)

That is indeed a taxi for Richie Jackson because he does not drive.

Kai Schwemmer (112:32)

Huh. You guys remember Taxi Driver, the arcade game?

Tim Pool (112:35)

Of course.

Kai Schwemmer (112:35)

That is such a banger.

Tim Pool (112:36)

What a fun.

Kai Schwemmer (112:37)

Oh, my goodness.

Tim Pool (112:38)

All right, let's grab your rants in chats. Corbitch says please have Casey putsch on your show today or tomorrow before the Ohio primary is over. People need to know there is an alternative to Vive. Is he going to win? Is that guy going to win?

Tate Brown (112:51)

AC yeah, he's at like 5, 6% of the Bulls.

Tim Pool (112:55)

Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (112:56)

I don't think Vivek's going to win, and I don't want him to win

Tim Pool (112:58)

primary or the general.

Kai Schwemmer (112:59)

Oh, no, the primary. He'll win. Yeah.

Tate Brown (113:01)

I think Acton's. I mean, I think if you look at the head head polling, they're like

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Tate Brown (114:03)

Neck to neck.

Tim Pool (114:04)

I think Vivek loses. I think he loses because he went full into H1B's 100% and he crashed out.

Kai Schwemmer (114:10)

He's like, oh, you guys are mad that I'm full on H1B? I'm just gonna get off Twitter. Twitter's bad for politicians. It's like, dude, we're holding you accountable. Like, you're saying these ridiculous things.

Tate Brown (114:19)

He's gotta have, like, the worst political instincts ever. Did you see him? He was, like, at a stump or something, and there was like this just like, you know, well to do evangelical guy. And he was like, so what's your, like, religion thing again? And he starts explaining to him, like, yeah, Jesus Christ is like a way to heaven. But I'm like, do you know what state you're running in? Like, what are you doing? He's like, you know, someone made a good point. They're like, if you're in a theological debate with your constituents, you're probably gonna lose. Yeah, I'm like, this guy, zero instincts.

Tim Pool (114:44)

He's Hindu, right?

Tate Brown (114:45)

Yeah.

Kai Schwemmer (114:45)

Yep. So when he says, you know, under God, I think there's like, bro, which one? And so, well, and I gotta be careful because people are gonna throw that back at me. But we believe in one God.

Tim Pool (114:55)

JBIRD Hearn says UAE pulling out of OPEC will make a big difference in prices. It's gonna be interesting.

Tate Brown (114:59)

Yeah, absolutely. Well, especially if the war wraps up. I mean, gas will be cheaper than it was before the war.

Tim Pool (115:05)

Shade piece's hot.

Brett Dasovic (115:05)

Take.

Tim Pool (115:06)

With these useless roles, UBI already exists. We just have these People pretend to work, work. Dems want to cut out the pretend work to save resources. I don't disagree completely. I disagree on the Democrat thing, but I actually made that argument when the UBI thing, when I made a video about this last week or two weeks ago. Elon Musk said we need high income UBI because of AI. I said, we already have it. The fact that we have jobs that are meaningless is just, it proves we're technically already in this system.

Kai Schwemmer (115:32)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (115:32)

Now that being said, companies still have to justify their existence and make money somehow.

Brett Dasovic (115:37)

And those people, those people still have to go like, those women have like advanced degrees and they had to go get it. They had to go pay a whole ton of money so they could take that useless job. And it's a, it's just a facet of the fact that they have so much checks, so many checks and balances at these companies that there's no way to run them.

Tim Pool (115:53)

This is a problem because I will be diseased by the human feedback loop. These women who work these fake jobs think they're working. They're not working. Yeah. And I don't want to single out these women because the guys there are not working either. And they complain about this, this, that that mentality will feedback loop into AI and AI will adopt this system and then we will cease to exist. We'll destroy ourselves.

Brett Dasovic (116:18)

The guy, when we were listening, I was listening to this guy like fascinated, talking about his corporate job. He was talking, he's like, yeah, like I'll run in like a full Microsoft system. Sometimes in a meeting with like three or four people, somebody says something, I don't even know what the hell they just said. I just put it into Co Pilot. Co Pilot tells me what they meant and then I just keep on with the conversation decision. Two years ago I wouldn't have been able to do that. I would have to stop and ask them what they meant.

Kai Schwemmer (116:39)

Yeah, just like I would have had to be vulnerable.

Tim Pool (116:41)

He's like, I was like, I want

Brett Dasovic (116:42)

to ask him like, so what do you do?

Tim Pool (116:44)

Well, what does that mean?

Brett Dasovic (116:45)

Do you work for like a weapons manufacturer? Do you work for like a book publishing company? I have no idea.

Tim Pool (116:51)

14 years ago I went to a seminar held by a guy from a company that was talking about the first automatically generated news articles and it was hard to find believe he said we can actually produce basic news article articles automatically. For instance, weather reports and sports. Yeah. If we already know that what the weather data is so sunny, 69 degrees, sunrise will be at 6 or you know, sunset will be at 8 or whatever. All we have to do is add the filler words to tell you that today the weather will be be 69 degrees and sunny sunset will be those few words. And then he said, for sports, even easier. We know what the score is. So all we have to do is write the score from yesterday's game, these simple words. Today with AI, I can literally go on any AI and say, search for every news article from every available source talking about Donald Trump's, you know, Iran war, and then write me a concise thousand word breakdown. So instead of getting one direct source, you can actually get them all combined in an instant. So like these infographics that I've put out, we can auto generate an infographic in 30 seconds, breaking down a story with key bullet points. It's over.

Kai Schwemmer (118:10)

Automation is coming for the most important part of the economy, which is the clipping network. So indeed, once that happens, truly, I don't know what.

Tim Pool (118:17)

Well, it already is. We have, we have a YouTube channel that's just for shorts that we just launched and we were probably getting like 10,000 views per month. It's brand new with no subscribers and it, and it does 25 shorts per day. That's. So it's all automated at this point.

Kai Schwemmer (118:32)

Yep. The poor clippers in India who are part of those clipping networks, it's over.

Tim Pool (118:37)

Yeah. I went on ChatGPT and I was like, make me a picture of this. And then I thought about it. Wouldn't it be funny if it's really just like 10 Indian guys sitting there and we got a prompt and they're like clicking away like you had the glow you have.

Brett Dasovic (118:47)

They found out later that all your AI generated images are just a dude who's really fast at doing it himself. Yeah, they did that. That was like a storyline and like they had an AI image in the Devil Wears Prada too. And they, because Hollywood is radicalized anti AI, they had a real person make a fake AI image and then bragged about how they hired a real person to make the fake AI.

Tate Brown (119:08)

Wasn't it Amazon that like the Amazon Go stores, But it's actually so much people in India like watching on the cameras. We picked up the chicken.

Tim Pool (119:14)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a, there was a company that said, we'll use AI to build an app for you, but it was a 500 IND Indian guys. No joke.

Tate Brown (119:19)

Oh my goodness.

Tim Pool (119:20)

All right, Token Maga says here's your answer, Tim. Christian kids go to secular public schools and become gay commies. That's why they're degenerate. Indeed. Why are Christian parents sending their kids to these schools?

Kai Schwemmer (119:31)

I get so.

Tim Pool (119:32)

I'm not doing it with my kid.

Kai Schwemmer (119:33)

I get so split on this. It's like, I think. I think that's true, but it's. I also have to account for my own existence. Like, I went to public schools. I made it out. Truly. Am I extraordinary, or is it just totally over?

Tim Pool (119:44)

Over?

Tate Brown (119:44)

I. I don't know what that word means, dude.

Kai Schwemmer (119:47)

My bad. My bad.

Tate Brown (119:48)

Earn, can you translate them to Philly?

Tim Pool (119:50)

All right, Stocious. Praymore says, pay more attention, Tim. The ending is dude's young. Dude's young mom. Anti Wi Fi disease being spread with a rat plague. Yes. Except that would have been Act 3, and it didn't happen. Spoiler. The dude, the movie. The movie's about to end. You're like, did they win? He goes back in time and he goes, no, we didn't win. Then he walks up to the woman, and he goes, I have an idea to give him what you got. Then the movie ends, and I'm like, so they don't defeat the AI. It's just Act 2. That's it. There's no crescendo. Talk about trash. I'm sick of these movies, man.

Kai Schwemmer (120:32)

Well, you just. You just saved me a couple of hours, so I'm grateful.

Tim Pool (120:35)

The movie is.

Kai Schwemmer (120:36)

Is.

Tim Pool (120:38)

It's really fun for a while, but when they just cut you off at the end with no ending, I want to punch my TV because, like, they're wasting your time. I came for a story. You did not give me one. How about this? I'll write the ending for you so that everyone can feel some satisfaction. He says, we're gonna give everybody whatever infection you have. Don't even mention it's an infection. By the way, the chick. Its nosebleeds when people turn their phones on. On. And then you're like, okay. And so. So after this, he takes a vial of her blood, and then he injects himself with it. And then it causes blood clotting disorder because he's got the wrong blood type. And then he dies. Movie's over. Congratulations. There's your ending. We're done.

Kai Schwemmer (121:21)

Roll credits.

Tim Pool (121:21)

All right. What is this? Assa Ventura, man. As a developer, I don't agree much with American protectionism in the field. With some exceptions, the best developers that I've worked with are Brazilians, Indians, Viets in most cases. And, of course, we are way cheaper. Yeah, American companies like hiring Ukrainians because you can pay a Ukrainian developer like 50, 60k a year, and they live like kings in Ukraine these days. They probably fled, but before the war broke out, I went to a restaurant. When I was there and I was looking, it was like a sushi restaurant. And I was like, these prices are comparable to American prices. I was like, who can afford to eat here? The average salary for Ukrainian was 400 bucks a month. They're not going and dropping 60 bucks on a sushi dinner. Yeah, the average condo was $300,000. I'm like, who can afford this? My friend said the oligarchs own all the buildings, so they only sell between each other. Basically. Almost no one can buy. But international interests who can afford it will buy. And I was like, really? And then she was explaining to me that the Ukrainians that are wealthy get 100k a year as software developer for US firms, and they live like kings and they can afford to buy these condos.

Kai Schwemmer (122:29)

Yeah, I think with this whole economic issue, I do think automation inevitably offsets a lot of that. I mean, a lot of these jobs, like the clipping we were just talking about, but other software jobs as well, other tech jobs, they're disappearing through automation. And eventually the argument of hiring cheaper, if that is your kind of operative values, how cheap you can get the labor, a machine doing it for you is way cheaper. And then we're back stuck in the same issue of, okay, well, people don't have jobs. How do we give them meaning? And this is, you know, where. Where Yang was really one of the only guys thinking about it at the time in. In 2020, was it Andrew Yang? And dude, talk about anybody who could have defected to the right wing. Andrew Yang could have done the Tulsi Gabbard thing. He could have pulled it off.

Tate Brown (123:09)

Yeah, he missed the vote.

Kai Schwemmer (123:10)

He missed the vote.

Tim Pool (123:11)

We got Mike says, happy Star wars day. Just saw mall season finally, and it was epic. It felt like Star Wars. I just want to point out that May the fourth be with you is literally a corruption of may the Lord be with you.

Tate Brown (123:23)

You.

Tim Pool (123:24)

That was the intention behind it. Literally the intention behind it was to say that. I also want to stress that the problem Star wars had is that it was an IP made in a limited fun in a limited fashion. The universe was expanded. But you see, with Marvel characters, they keep these arcs going and they expand the characters and create alternate universes. For Star wars, the characters had their life. They want to monetize singular characters, but that means the universe can't go anywhere. Han Solo had his adventure. So how do you make more Han Solo. So they made that garbage solo film. This is the problem Star wars had. And then the story becomes convoluted trash. And that's what it is. Star wars is garbage. It's pure garbage. They only ever made three movies. Nothing else ever happened. Thank you and have a good day.

Tate Brown (124:08)

Also, this whole may 4th be with or whatever, it's all a corruption. I remember when I was in preschool, May 4 was National Orange Juice Day. And it's a thing, it's like a thing. Other kids had the same sort of thing. And it was a day was that competing celebration.

Tim Pool (124:21)

You to know that Bernays made orange juice, right?

Tate Brown (124:25)

Bernays?

Tim Pool (124:26)

Yeah, the marketing guy.

Tate Brown (124:28)

Oh, I don't know. Because what happened was there, our celebration,

Tim Pool (124:32)

there was a surplus of oranges, which meant that all the farmers were going to be competing and the prices were going to drop. So they went to him and they said, how do we sell the oranges? What can we do? And he said, here's the pitch. If an orange is healthy, five oranges all at once is five times as healthy. So take the juice and you can drink it. And it's one of the most disgusting and unhealthy things a human being could possibly drink. There's more sugar in orange juice than orange juice than a can of soda pop.

Kai Schwemmer (124:59)

Oh, of course.

Tate Brown (125:00)

Yeah. Yep.

Tim Pool (125:00)

Yeah, it's bad for good.

Tate Brown (125:02)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (125:02)

And I, I actually think orange juice is disgusting.

Brett Dasovic (125:05)

What?

Tate Brown (125:05)

What?

Tim Pool (125:06)

Yeah. So you do know brushing your teeth. Hold on. No one's talking about fresh squeezed orange juice, but you could just eat an orange, which is delicious. We're talking about that store bought garbage where the flavor has been stripped from it and they try, they try to add oils back to it because the flavor dies when they ship it.

Kai Schwemmer (125:21)

Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Tim Pool (125:23)

Yeah. Gross.

Kai Schwemmer (125:24)

You ever notice when you go to a breakfast place. Oh my.

Tim Pool (125:27)

You go to a place where they have the machine and it's sweet. Yes, it's very sweet and delicious. And you buy from the store, it's bitter because it's trash.

Tate Brown (125:34)

Well.

Kai Schwemmer (125:34)

And even sometimes you'll know it's real when it isn't excessively sweet. You can tell. Oh, these oranges, you know. Yeah, these are real.

Tate Brown (125:42)

This is the type of conversation we should be having a National Orange Juice Day, but instead it's been corrupted with this Reddit garbage and I'm so sick of it.

Kai Schwemmer (125:47)

Yeah, the Reddit stuff.

Tate Brown (125:50)

Unbelievable.

Kai Schwemmer (125:50)

What, like talking about what things of. Of no consequence.

Tate Brown (125:53)

I know, Unbelievable. Never would do that ever.

Tim Pool (125:56)

All right, Williams Says indivisible Democrats have been pushing for their voter pushing their voters to switch registration for months before the deadline in Idaho. Spending hundreds of thousands in our state level races to keep the illegal immigrants and change the state. Yep, sounds about right.

Kai Schwemmer (126:11)

Happened in Utah too. Luckily, the Republican Party passed bylaws to stop former Democrats from running. You know, with a year in a room or something.

Tim Pool (126:19)

All right, Porter number three says speaking of skilled trades, I'm a proud professional draftsman with 40k hours experience in contract commercial and residential design, moving from Washington to West Virginia and looking for opportunities if you have leads. Message builder guy 87 Good luck, sir. Good luck, sir. I haven't any leads for you right now.

Tate Brown (126:39)

Welcome to West Virginia.

Tim Pool (126:40)

Absolutely. Virginia, but more west 10 bucks deuces. Every time I hear that goofy Tucker laugh, I think of Kefka from Final Fantasy 6. Very few people will understand that. Well, actually very people watching this. A lot of people would actually understand the Kafka joke. All right, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show over@rumble.com Timcast IRL. Smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know. Sir, would you like to shout anything out?

Kai Schwemmer (127:02)

Yeah, absolutely. I've got a very exciting thing happening right now which is that I'm running for state party treasurer in Utah. So I'm trying to, you know, put some Gen Z voices on our board and of course, you know, make sure that treasurer is being treasured up, that there is transparency and obviously fiscal responsibility. And of course you can follow me everywhere. Schwemmer on YouTube, Instagram and as well on Twitter.

Brett Dasovic (127:25)

Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. Remember, PCC is live five days a week, Monday through Friday, 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time, which is of course noon Pacific. Kai is going to be joining us tomorrow. Libby's going to be there as well. Libby's like Libby said, I want to talk specifically about the Met Gal. So me and you will have to pretend like we know what the heck is going on with clothes.

Kai Schwemmer (127:46)

Well, Mark Zuckerberg went.

Brett Dasovic (127:48)

Did he go?

Tate Brown (127:48)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (127:49)

You're gonna have to tune in tomorrow and find out what happened. So we'll see you guys there.

Tate Brown (127:53)

I love it. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown and I'll be back tomorrow for the noon Tim Cast News Daily Live show. Good luck. I love Treasures because I love Treasure. I'm like very pirate pilled recently. I love the peg leg, the eye patch, but I'm big on treasures. So, Carter, how do you feel about Treasure? How about the parrots?

Tim Pool (128:09)

I like the whole pirate outfit.

Tate Brown (128:11)

They really had it down, man.

Tim Pool (128:13)

Yeah, treasure's great.

Tate Brown (128:14)

The Met Galaxy has some treasure. Like, now there's Somalis. They got replaced. Now it's all Somali, bro.

Kai Schwemmer (128:21)

Truly, it was a trove.

Tim Pool (128:23)

We should go to an island that is, like, controlled by no one and just dig for artifacts we can steal and then bring back here and put on display.

Tate Brown (128:30)

That's what I like. And that's so much better than these Somali pirates.

Tim Pool (128:34)

Right?

Kai Schwemmer (128:36)

We're good.

Tim Pool (128:36)

We're going to the uncensored portion. Thanks for hanging out, guys. We'll see you@rumble.com. tim, in a second.