Timcast IRL — NEW VIDEO PROVES Woman STRUCK ICE Agent, Activist Says COME AT US w/ Kaity, Defender of the Republic (Jan 10, 2026)

Episode Overview

In this intense, wide-ranging episode, Tim Pool and his panel dissect newly-released video footage of a high-profile ICE-involved police shooting in Minnesota. The debate centers on whether the ICE agent was justified in firing shots after being struck by a vehicle driven by activist Renee Goode. The conversation spirals into legal, moral, and political territory—with side debates on due process, the role of the executive branch in deportation, and federal vs. state authority. Notably, the panel splits between pro-law enforcement and civil liberties/civil rights stances, with guest Aaron (“Straight Raid”) frequently challenging the others’ assumptions and reasoning.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Analysis of Police Shooting Footage (04:14–45:53)

• Breakdown of the Video: The panel plays and scrutinizes the cell-phone and bodycam footage frame-by-frame. The video shows Renee Goode’s vehicle make contact with the ICE agent, whose camera is jostled and feet slide on icy pavement.
  • Tim: "You can hear his body slap the hood... she’s staring at the ICE agent the whole time… she shifts and looks right at him as she starts spinning the wheel." (06:12)
• Intent and Culpability: Multiple panelists argue that Goode knowingly disobeyed lawful orders and created a dangerous situation.
  • Tim: "She created the circumstance. She committed a crime. Listen, when you commit a crime, anything that happens subsequently is your fault." (25:12)
  • Aaron counters: “I don’t think this constitutes a reasonable person’s definition of imminent threat or likelihood of death… She was attempting a multi-point turn, not trying to accelerate towards or at the agent.” (11:28)
• The ‘Drive, baby, drive’ Statement: Debate erupts over whether Goode’s wife urging her to drive deepens her culpability or changes the officer’s justification to fire.
  • Tim: “If that’s what she said, it’s a criminal charge… instructing to flee.” (27:04)
  • Aaron: "She probably would have tried to flee anyway. Why is it such a big deal what the wife said?" (27:29)

Notable Moment:

• Phil: “To deny that he was hit is to deny what you’re looking at.” (41:38)

2. What Legally Constitutes Reasonable Use of Lethal Force? (12:36–45:04)

• Is a Vehicle a Lethal Weapon?
  • Tim and Phil cite court precedent and DHS guidelines confirming cars can be “deadly weapons.”
  • Phil: “A vehicle can be considered a deadly weapon under certain circumstances depending on how it is used…" (16:36)
• Law vs. Politics:
  • Tim: “We are well beyond legal machinations now. It’s literally just exertions of authority and power.” (11:15)
  • Debate: Are post-contact shots justifiable? Was the agent’s trauma from a previous drag incident relevant or disqualifying?

3. Broad Political & Media Landscape (46:14–49:29)

• Media Narratives & Tribalism:
  • Tim explores how both political tribes interpret and distort events like this, using coverage and polling to illustrate shifting narratives.
  • “Democrats said the economy was fine under Obama, bad under Trump… Republicans do the same. These are not real opinions.” (49:32)

4. Federal & State Tensions (52:15–64:04)

• Federal Shielding of ICE Agent:
  • Coverage of DOJ blocking Minnesota from investigating the ICE shooting.
  • Tim: “The federal government and the state governments have bisected and are at odds. Where does that go?” (52:15)
  • Phil: “I think the state stands down. I don’t think they’re in a position to push the issue.” (54:21)
  • Discussion of possible extradition showdowns if the agent flees to a ‘friendly’ state like Florida.
• Stakes for Law Enforcement:
  • Panel warns that prosecuting the agent would devastate ICE morale and enforcement capability.
  • “If this cop gets prosecuted, ICE will quit en masse, and Trump’s agenda collapses.” (56:23)

5. Deep Dive: Due Process & Immigration Law (66:43–121:23)

• Executive Branch Power:
  • Tim provides a civics lesson on ‘due process’ as applied differently depending on citizen status.
    • “Due process for an illegal immigrant is called expedited removal... they don’t go before a jury or a judge.” (74:57)
  • Aaron contends: “That doesn’t mean the US can do whatever it wants. There are minimum standards of due process applied to every single person.” (74:52)
• Case Study—Kilmar Abrego Garcia:
  • Tim and Aaron fiercely debate the specifics of this disputed deportation.
  • Tim: “Two courts found him to be a member of MS-13. The INA says a foreign terrorist is disqualified from reprieve.” (107:00)
  • Aaron: “There’s no good evidence—wearing a Bulls hat isn’t proof of gang membership. And ICE called it a deportation oversight, an administrative error.” (94:01, 101:25)

6. Slippery Slope: U.S. Responsibility for Foreign Human Rights Abuses (119:36–128:44)

• Is the U.S. Morally or Legally Liable?
  • Does deporting someone to face torture/prison constitute a rights violation?
  • Tim: “He went home. What his home country does is not our problem.” (121:44)
  • Aaron: “So we cooperated to facilitate his imprisonment…” (119:01)
  • Phil bluntly: “If El Salvador deems him an MS-13 member, I’m not going to invade them over it.” (120:53)

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• Tim, on the video evidence:

  • "You can hear his body slap the hood of the car… She’s looking right at him as she spins the wheel." (06:12)
  • “She created the circumstance. She committed a crime. Anything that happens is your fault.” (25:12)

• Aaron (Straight Raid), dissenting:

  • “Does this constitute a reasonable person’s definition of imminent threat? I don’t think so… She was turning away from the officer, with a calm demeanor.” (11:28)
  • “You think the United States wasn’t involved in the imprisonment in an El Salvadoran prison?” (118:59)

• Phil, clarification on law:

  • “A vehicle can be considered a deadly weapon under certain circumstances depending on how it is used…” (16:36)
  • “To deny that he was hit is to deny what you’re looking at.” (41:38)

• Tate, on federal vs. state conflict:

  • “The feds hold the cards… The state’s avenues toward retribution here are very limited.” (58:13)

• Group on “political prosecution”:

  • “If Minnesota brings charges, Florida won’t extradite… That would be like war.” (63:52)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:14–06:46] — Playing and first analysis of ICE shooting video
• [10:09–13:59] — Panel debates intent, law, and precedent
• [25:12–27:40] — Criminal culpability, felony obstruction, and “drive, baby, drive”
• [45:53–49:29] — Political tribalism in public opinion/media
• [52:15–54:29] — Breaking news: DOJ blocks Minnesota from investigation
• [56:23–58:13] — Threat to ICE and law enforcement if agent prosecuted
• [66:43–74:57] — In-depth debate: Due process, expulsion, and constitutional law
• [94:01–107:00] — Kilmar Abrego Garcia deportation case analysis
• [119:36–128:44] — Morality and U.S. responsibility for foreign imprisonment

Tone & Style Observations

• Direct, combative, and unfiltered: Tim is relentless and somewhat combative; Aaron meets him point for point; Phil is blunt and legalistic; Tate cracks dark jokes; Defender of the Republic (Kyrie) maintains a populist, pro-sovereignty stance.
• Regular Conflict: Debates move quickly and emotionally, with accusations of "sophistry" and political tribalism traded back-and-forth.

Summary Takeaways

• The panel strongly divides over whether the video exonerates the ICE agent; most agree no prosecution will occur, except for Aaron, who maintains the use of force was excessive.
• Both the legal standards for police use of deadly force and the impact of state vs. federal authority are brought into sharp relief.
• Heated debates expose both the legal complexity and political polarization surrounding immigration enforcement and police actions in America.
• The episode is a raw, at-times chaotic exploration of public distrust, due process, and the consequences of deeply politicized justice.