Trump Signs Order ENDING Birthright Citizenship AGAIN

Summary

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Timcast IRL Aug 7, 2026 | Trump Signs Order ENDING Birthright Citizenship AGAIN

Episode Overview

This episode of Timcast IRL, hosted by Tim Pool with guests Araceli Martinez (California Senate candidate, political commentator, and accountant), Phil (musician), Carter Banks, Brett Dasic, and other regulars, delves into Donald Trump’s new executive order targeting birthright citizenship, specifically addressing "alien enemies" and other categories. The crew analyzes the political, legal, and cultural ramifications, discusses media propaganda, and explores varied current events from elections, AI, gun rights, and even fast food nostalgia. Expect a blend of sharp political critique, irreverent humor, and deep dives into U.S. civic issues.

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Key Topics & Highlights

1. Trump’s Executive Order on Birthright Citizenship

Timestamps: 00:00 – 09:00

• Announcement and Context

  • Tim Pool opens with news of Trump signing an executive order to end birthright citizenship for certain groups, referencing "alien enemies" and drawing from Supreme Court language.
  • Stephen Miller (featured in a clip) specifies categories ineligible for citizenship: alien enemies, members of foreign terrorist organizations, foreign lobbyists.

  “The president is using his authority as commander in Chief to sign first an executive order using the new ruling the Supreme Court issued to expand the definitions of people who are ineligible for birthright citizenship.”
  — Stephen Miller [03:57]

• Discussion Points

  • Is the EO innovative, or just symbolic? Panel skeptical if it will withstand judicial challenges.
  • Focus on targeting Chinese birth tourism, illegal immigration, and whether those paying criminal organizations can be classified as aiding terrorism.
  • Left expected to sue and obtain injunctions, risking another judicial slapdown.
  • Underlying constitutional debate: Are children of non-citizens “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S.?
  • Irony and frustration over social media and left-wing pushback.

  “Are people that are born here to parents that are here illegally, are they actually subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? … They're not.”
  — Phil [07:45]

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2. Voter Eligibility – Should It Be Harder to Vote?

Timestamps: 09:40 – 15:00

• Satirical Solutions

  • Spirited debate on restricting voting rights: only landowners, net-taxpayers, those with good credit, or people who served (military/Selective Service).
  • References to “Starship Troopers” (service guarantees citizenship).
  • Hostility toward “voting yourself stuff” and cultural differences on property and service, plus comical asides about “no voting for Camaro buyers.”

  “Service guarantees citizenship. Thank you and have a nice day.”
  — Tim Pool [11:39]

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3. Media Propaganda & Misinformation

Timestamps: 23:10 – 33:35

• Trump’s Transistor/Transgender Gaffe Misrepresented

  • Viral Reddit post claims Trump confused "transistor" and "transgender"—but panel plays the full clip and rebuts the story, blaming left-leaning media and Reddit for calculated distortions.

  “No one accidentally takes this clip, frames it as though Trump meant transistor, and then posts it to Reddit. … This was intentionally clipped and posted to— it’s information vaccination.”
  — Tim Pool [24:47]

• Texas Redistricting Battle

  • Panel fact-checks claims that Texas Republicans cheated by redrawing district lines mid-decade, clarifying the DOJ under Biden blocked 2021 redistricting, enabling Texas to finally implement them after Trump DOJ dropped the suit in 2025.
  • Highlights a recurring pattern: media narratives paint one party as cheating, omitting context or history.

  “The Biden DOJ blocked them from doing so … Talarico is incorrect on this.”
  — Tim Pool [31:45]

• Propaganda Tactics

  • Discussion on how media shapes perception and dismisses evidence, with suggestions that the public is hard to reach due to bias and tribalism.
  • Quotes Michael Malice’s analogy: Trying to prove media lies to a normie is like accusing the weatherman of lying.

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4. The Nature of Political Power—Right vs. Left

Timestamps: 40:53 – 46:07

• Different Attitudes Toward Power

  • Democrats wield power like alcoholics; Republicans like wine snobs.
  • Claims of legalized fraud in CA (e.g. ballot harvesting), and GOP losing out by holding the moral high ground.
  • Commentary on CA policies, mail-in ballots, and why Democrats dominate structurally.
  • No parallel right-wing propaganda machine.

  “Republicans are still holding on to, this is the right way to do things … Democrats look at power the way alcoholics look at alcohol.”
  — Phil [41:36]

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5. Societal Decay, Authoritarianism, and America’s Future

Timestamps: 46:07 – 53:44

• Desire for Strong Leadership

  • Jokes and serious talk about embracing monarchy, dictatorship (“we need another Lincoln or a strongman like Bukele”).
  • Reference to right-wing Latin American strongmen and audience reactions to “fascist” rhetoric.

  “If you say we need another Lincoln, people don’t think you’re talking about a tyrant.”
  — Phil [52:27]

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6. Social & Cultural Musings (Crime, Fast Food, Nostalgia, AI)

Timestamps: 54:05 – 87:05

• True Crime: Discussion of a viral clown-masked teen murderer as emblematic of a society lacking struggle.
  • "Everything's fine. Nothing to see here, folks. Just a kid dressed as a clown."
    — Tim Pool [55:25]
• Fast Food & Nostalgia: Spiraling debate over Five Guys vs. In-N-Out, Kmart, 90s-themed businesses, and the idea of running a “decade hotel.”
  • “I think it’s a million dollar business … 90s will be permanently sold out and wait-listed.”
    — Tim Pool [107:58, 110:20]
• AI & Universal Basic Income: Concerns and sarcasm about robots taking human jobs, Elon Musk, and future economics.
• Ozempic Side Effects: Humorous yet critical take on “magic weight loss drugs” with severe downsides, connecting the desire for easy solutions to the appeal of Democratic messaging.
  • “Could you imagine … a drug that might make you go blind and paralyze your stomach, but it’ll make you skinny, and they grab it and jam it in their leg…”
    — Tim Pool [74:23]

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7. Superhero Movie Nitpicks

Timestamps: 87:05 – 102:19

• MCU & “Spider-Man: Brand New Day” Spoilers
  • Lively discussion of superhero film logic, consistent character writing (Punisher immune to mind control), and the catharsis of well-done adaptations.
  • “You can’t mind control the Punisher.”
    — Tim Pool [93:40]
• Nostalgic Love for Comic Adaptations
  • Gushing over Jon Bernthal as the Punisher; Punisher’s moral clarity is juxtaposed against wishy-washy media and politics.

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8. Community Announcements & Final Thoughts

Timestamps: 116:22 – End

• Shout-outs to Timcast’s West Virginia coffee shop (Cast Brew) as a community hub.
• Complaint about coordinated 1-star reviews from liberals, evidence of “polarization.”
• Final joke about cross-universe fan comics and superhero names.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Democracy was a mistake.” — Tim Pool [10:14]
• “Republicans look at power the way wine snobs look at alcohol. Democrats look at power the way alcoholics look at alcohol.” — Phil [41:36]
• “Could you imagine, like, going … like these women who are all about body positivity. … Doctor goes, Well, I have a drug that could potentially blind you, make you vomit up rotting food because your stomach can't digest it. But you will get skinny. I'll take it.” — Tim Pool [74:23]
• “It's so easy to be a Democrat. That’s why I think Democrats just lie about everything—because it’s just, their voters are really dumb.” — Tim Pool [61:29]
• “If you’ve ever taken Ozempic for weight loss, you can’t vote anymore.” — Tim Pool [75:57]

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Additional Timestamps

• [03:57] — Stephen Miller details EO on birthright citizenship.
• [24:47] — Tim Pool calls out media manipulation over “transistor/transgender” gaffe.
• [31:45] — Fact-checking mid-decade Texas redistricting claims.
• [41:36] — Analogy of right and left wielding power.
• [52:27] — Discussion on American appetite for a Lincoln-type strongman.
• [107:58 & 110:20] — Nostalgia hotel business model in-depth.
• [74:23] — Riff on Ozempic weight-loss drug side effects.

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains a sarcastic, exasperated, and highly skeptical tone toward mainstream media and Democratic leadership, while lampooning Republican ineffectiveness and idealism. The show relishes irreverence and pop culture asides, blending serious political criticism with humor and nostalgia.

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For New Listeners

This episode covers not only Trump’s controversial EO on birthright citizenship, but also wider debates about election integrity, media manipulation, the challenge of persuading uninformed voters, and the psychology of American political life. It’s rich in both policy analysis and biting, pop-culture-tinged satire; a quintessential look at the show’s independent, confrontational spirit.

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Transcript

[Tim Pool]

Donald Trump signed an executive order banning birthright citizenship again. He did it again. We'll see if it sticks this time. But it's a little bit more clever this time around because Stephen Miller speaking as the president, is signing this EO says this is based off of the Supreme Court's language pertaining to birthright citizenship. So this is going to end birth tourism and it's going to make sure, as defined by the Supreme Court, if you are subject to the jurisdiction of somebody else, then you are not going to be a citizen if you're born here. Notably, what I found interesting, he said, he said alien enemies, which is an interesting way to define these things because I'm wondering if they're going to try and play it up like if you illegally enter the United States, you are an enemy of the United States, or if they literally mean the Chinese as a, as a codified adversary of the United States, in which case a lot of this Chinese birth tourism is effectively done. But illegal immigration, you know, birth tourism, coyotes, whatever you want to call it, probably still here, but we'll see, we'll talk about that. Then we got a funny story that's been going viral. Mayor, Mayor Zona Namdani got booed in Staten Island. They were, they were booing him. Yeah, I can't say I'm surprised. So we'll talk about that. Plus the propaganda in the media. And ladies and gentlemen, we have a massive, massive reporting. Mitch McConnell has been discharged. He's alive. Well, no one's seen him, but they said he was discharged. Discharged. And now he'll be at home. I'm wondering if just dude had a stroke and can't talk and it's really like he's still alive, but he just can't function properly. He can smile. And the reason they, they'll only post a picture, not a video is cuz if you watch the video, you'd realize dude had a stroke and he can't talk.

[Brett Dasic]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

So we'll see, we'll talk about that. About that a whole lot more. Before we get started, my friends, head over to timcast.com and click join now to get in the discord community. Don't just sit idly by, be the change and you want to see in this world. My friends, we know the media is broken. We know they lie every single day. In fact, part of the show today, we've got propaganda to break down and expose. Well, the only way we can do this is because you guys are members. This is not a joke. Without our members, we would not be doing this show. So if you believe that, that we have to challenge the lies that come out of the fake news and you appreciate this show, then join [e-mail] get active. We got tens of thousands of members hanging out every single day. Plus you get access to the uncensored portion of the show. Premium content only available to our members. But don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much what we have Araceli Martinez.

[Araceli Martinez]

Hey, guys, how's everybody doing tonight?

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Araceli Martinez]

So I, I'm a political commentator online. I'm currently running for state senate in California, which is fun. I'm running as a Republican and I'm also an accountant on my free time.

[Phil]

Right on.

[Tim Pool]

Well, thanks for hanging out. Should be interesting especially to hear about what's going on in California. We got some news to talk about, so thanks for joining us. The boys are hanging out.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

What's going on, guys? It's been, what's been at least a week. It's Brett, what's going on? Hope everybody's having a good day today. Normally doing PCC live five days at 3pm Eastern, but I'm happy to be here. Phil, how you doing?

[Phil]

What's up, everybody? Phil here. What's up, Carter?

[Carter Banks]

What's up, Carter here. Let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

But don't forget real quick, guys, we have a new show, the Tim Pool Show. Two interviews live now. We'll have another one coming up on Sunday. We're actually banking quite a few. We're going to be talking about climate change tomorrow. So that should be live on Sunday. It's going to be very interesting. Subscribe to the new Tim Pool show on rumble and on YouTube. The link is in the description below. And, and let's get, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Let's jump into the news, my friends. I got this from the Washington Post. Trump tries new tack against Birthright citizenship after Supreme Court snob. Let's just, let's just jump into the video here and play the, the, the clip with Stephen Miller.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

The president is using his authority as commander in Chief to sign first an executive order using the new ruling the Supreme Court issued to expand the definitions of people who are ineligible for birthright citizenship. That includes, for example, alien enemies of the United States, members of foreign terrorist organizations, and large categories of people who lobby and act on behalf of foreign governments. And so with taking this action, it ensures that large numbers of People who wrongly would be getting birthright citizenship will no longer be eligible for those benefits.

[Tim Pool]

Now, here's what blows my mind. You heard what he said, okay? This is relatively limited means Chinese birth tourism. They're not. So China's actually codified as an adversary of the United States. So I think that's one of the plays they're making. One of the biggest concerns, of course, with birth tourism, obviously we don't want lobbyists, foreign lobbyists to be coming in and their kids can become citizens here. But, you know, the left and liberals are going to argue against what Trump is saying and they're gonna make up some weird fake reason as to why we, we have to allow Chinese people to come here, give birth, and then leave right away.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

What was it he said after alien enemies of the United States? What was the second part of that in the clip?

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's play it again and get the exact quote there.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

New ruling the Supreme Court issued to expand the definitions of people who are ineligible for birthright citizenship. That includes, for example, alien enemies of the United States, members of foreign terrorist organizations, and large categories of people who lobby and act on behalf of foreign government.

[Tim Pool]

Foreign terrorist organizations.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It feels like alien enemies of the United States go along with terrorist organizations, which kind of lends credence to what you were saying.

[Phil]

I like that.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Has pointed out definition.

[Phil]

I like that he pointed out people that lobby on behalf of. Because that's the kind of stuff that goes after talking heads that are actually getting their, you know, their talking points from China. People like Hassan Piker maybe, but that,

[Tim Pool]

I think it's not going to eliminate existing citizenship for someone who was born here. So Hassan feels like, I can be talking about this.

[Phil]

I can, I can cross my fingers. Oh, yeah, because after, I mean, but we could work.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to be interested in how they try and utilize this to go after just your regular old anchor baby. Right? Are they going to. It would be really funny if, you know, like a thousand illegal immigrants across the southern border. And then as they're coming in, they're handed leaf like pamphlets. And then once they, it says in Spanish it says, please hand this to cbp. They walk up and they hand the pamphlet to the CBP guy and on it it says, in English, vote Democrat, support Mexico. And it's like, ah, you have foreign lobbyists. Sorry, guys, you're no longer eligible. You gotta go.

[Araceli Martinez]

You don't even have to go that far. The people who are trafficked illegally are paying into a criminal organization. You could make the argument that they're aiding and abetting immigration. So they're now part of it.

[Tim Pool]

That's the obvious. Legitimate.

[Araceli Martinez]

Sorry, sorry, we don't do this.

[Tim Pool]

I don't actually think they're gonna try and strict illegal immigran immigrants into being foreign lobbyists.

[Brett Dasic]

But.

[Araceli Martinez]

No, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, no, but that's, that's what I, that, that was my initial thought when he said alien enemies and people lobbying, et cetera. They're going to go after and say these people are part of a criminal organization. Yeah, yeah. These. So if trend Day Aragua and these other groups are already FTOs and the, and they're going to say this person was paying members of foreign terrorist organizations. They're, they're, boom, that's it. So what are they. It's going to get real weird when liberals sue and be like, no, but providing money cash to terrorists is allowed protected speech somehow.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, I mean, that's what's going to happen. Right. This is going to get struck down by a judge. At some point, they're going to file an injunction and we're going to have that happen. It's all going to start over again.

[Phil]

What was that like?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's going to get struck down by a judge. Right. This is going to go to go to like a lower court or whatever, and it's going to get struck down by a judge.

[Phil]

I mean, I, I don't know, like

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

all the other executive orders.

[Phil]

Well, I mean, the likelihood is there that this gets struck down. Yeah. Just because of the fact there's so many judges that don't like Trump. But I mean, look, I, I do like the fact that he's continuing to push this issue. You know, the Supreme Court, in my opinion, they got it wrong about birthright citizenship because the, the argument being made wasn't just, hey, you know, anyone born here or is anyone born here a citizen? It's, it was, at its core, it was, are people that are born here to parents that are here illegally, are they actually subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? And the argument, in as far as I'm concerned, or my opinion, they're not. Because their parents are foreign citizens. Right. They're, they're citizens of other countries. They're here illegally. They're not supposed to be here. So that means that the person born there isn't, isn't subject to our, our laws the way that, that America.

[Tim Pool]

I think we have to just ban Reddit. Well, I doubt these are Americans. Like, I, I think would be great just to print these out. And you Just go hand them to regular people and be like do you, do you think that foreign terrorists should be able to enter the United States and have kids who are citizens, are like no. And be like why do these people on Reddit think the opposite?

[Brett Dasic]

Well, the.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

What the top guy says Stephen Miller is an enemy of the country and looks like an alien. I think actually Stephen Miller has like very British physiognomy, so that doesn't necessarily make him an enem me but close, pretty close.

[Araceli Martinez]

I don't know, I feel like I've heard people make these arguments in real life.

[Tim Pool]

Are these people this dumb? How can a baby be a member of a terrorist organization?

[Phil]

Oh my God.

[Carter Banks]

I mean didn't Hasan Piker say that?

[Tim Pool]

I, you know, this is why like I, I get Democrats. I do. Cuz like when you read comments like this, don't you just think we should have a monarch who rules with an iron fist like Dr. Doom? Like these people are too stupid for self determination.

[Phil]

We need another Lincoln.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, as you were saying yesterday, I feel like the, it's actually kind of, it should be easier to see from like a normies perspective where it's like if you asked a normal person who's not politically active, they don't think a lot about. It's like do you think somebody should be able to just come into this country on vacation and have a kid and that kid is now a citizen of this country? I feel like most normal people would be like, well that doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. But when you're politically brained, it's like people have to get into the semantics of these arguments. When it feels like the Supreme Court ruled against the, the very, very answer.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, democracy was a mistake.

[Phil]

I mean it, it's, we're. I don't want to sound too boomerish, but allowing the United States to be too much of a democracy was the mistake.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the 17th amendment.

[Phil]

Yeah, I mean the 17th amendment, I think there should be, I mean, you know me, I think that we should be down to like couple 10 voters, couple million voters nationwide.

[Tim Pool]

Service guarantees citizenship. Thank you and have a nice day.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Wait me like, sorry, what did you say?

[Araceli Martinez]

Back to owning land to be able to vote, at least show us at a federal level, at least show us that you have a stake in this country, that you've got something to lose

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

or like a net taxpayer, like you don't get a return.

[Araceli Martinez]

Net taxpayer is great, but because like over 50 of our population they like, they, they get taxed higher than that.

[Phil]

Yeah, I think it's something around 50.

[Tim Pool]

It's going to be a largely liberal voting block then, is it? Yeah, because of a cost of living in cities. You're on the, on, on the, on the higher end. You get a, you get a slight disproportionate amount of liberals paying higher, paying more taxes.

[Araceli Martinez]

Oh, well, like in a state like California. Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Just everywhere.

[Phil]

Just the bottom 50% of the country owns only like 2.5% of all.

[Tim Pool]

How about. I don't know that I agree with the owning land thing anymore. Because like, what if you own a five million dollar condo and it's like owning a condo is not the land. You have a right to the condo, but you pay. You, you pay the condo board or the condo.

[Araceli Martinez]

We should have been smarter and bought land.

[Carter Banks]

Yes.

[Araceli Martinez]

I mean, if you could afford a $5 million condo, you can afford few acres of land.

[Tim Pool]

That's not necessarily true. I mean, maybe, but in like New York it can be like, let's, let's put it.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Property.

[Tim Pool]

Let's say you own a 400,000 condo, $4,000 condo in New York and that's, and you have a mortgage on it and you pay, you know, 3400, you know, whatever bucks per month on your, on your mortgage. You could sell your property and then buy a parcel, but you're not going to do that. And then you can't vote because you own property. Yeah, I don't. I think it would be better if maybe it's not. How about you have to have, you have to have a net worth of $1 million. No, no. How about this? You have to be an accredited investor.

[Phil]

Well, yeah, I mean, look, I, you have to have. How much is to be credit to 50? 250,000.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean, and that's in, in cash or a million in net worth.

[Phil]

Yeah. I mean, look, man, those eyes are

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

lighting up, ladies and gentlemen.

[Tim Pool]

The problem with that again is it's going to skew liberal because of people who live in cities and the cost of living, they don't have the same buying power, but they do have higher income, so it doesn't really work. Right. We've got a 10,000 square foot mansion in western Maryland that the value of it is like 1.8 million or whatever. That same building near D.C. is a $5 million building.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So you're going to get tons of liberals with higher net worth without the buying power just because they live in these cities.

[Araceli Martinez]

I mean, some type of test that would determine whether you're smart enough and also if you're capable of making decisions that aren't based purely out of emotion and empathy.

[Tim Pool]

This is why I think signing up for the draft is the, is the, is the best way to do it. If you want to vote, male or female, you don't have to. It's optional. You sign up for selective Service. After you do, you get handed your voter card, which allows you to vote in elections. Because what's going to happen is liberals will just stop voting outright. Maybe it'll be 2 to 1 for the rest of this country's history.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I mean, I think a lot of them would probably take the gamble on the draft not winning back.

[Tim Pool]

I guarantee if you go to any one of these lefty protests and say, how many of you would be willing to sign up for selective service so that you could vote? They'd be like, no, that's oppressive. I'll never do that. I won't submit. It's never gonna happen. Meanwhile, Republicans are gonna be like, I already enlisted.

[Phil]

I don't know, maybe go with the handler, Highland route and say, you have to actually serve.

[Tim Pool]

You know, service, guarantee citizenship.

[Phil]

Service guarantees citizenship.

[Tim Pool]

If you, that's fine too.

[Phil]

If you want to, you want to.

[Tim Pool]

You know, only, only veterans who are currently married with two or more kids can vote.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's also a sign of, like, only

[Phil]

veterans who never bought a Camaro at 28% interest or never married a stripper.

[Araceli Martinez]

That's it.

[Phil]

No, sorry, Marine.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, well, hold on. You can't have debt. You can't, you can't have excessive debt. So you can't, you know, have excessive.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Give me, give me an amount for excess.

[Tim Pool]

It would be like the Camaro puts

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

you into debt right there.

[Tim Pool]

I think maybe like 25 times your income would be considered an excessive debt. Okay, so you, the debt that you

[Phil]

own is 25 times your income overall. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Phil]

So that way you're talking about house annually.

[Tim Pool]

Right? Right. Because you, because if you, if you make 100k a year and you have 2.5 million in dollars in debt, okay, you're gonna be, you can be swayed. But if you, if you make 100k a year and you buy a 300, 000 house, it's just 3x your. Your income and then some credit cards. So you're gonna be sitting on 5, 10x at most. 25 is excessive.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, what we want to avoid for is people who are just completely irresponsible, bad with money, and then trying to vote their way out credit history

[Phil]

or credit score over 7 can't have

[Tim Pool]

any government funded loans or support when you.

[Phil]

What?

[Tim Pool]

No government. No government financing at all?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If you receive any amount of money from the government, you can't vote.

[Phil]

Well, I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe having a credit score over 750 and if

[Tim Pool]

you fall below credit scores are fake.

[Phil]

Yeah, that's.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that is completely fake.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

So what you mentioned earlier, it's kind of sad when you're talking about the people that will choose not to, to vote just because they don't want to serve. When it used to be kind of like an aspect of our culture that it was considered to be an honor to serve your country or at. We, we had a culture around America that love it simple so much.

[Tim Pool]

You, you, you, you have a house with 10 people in it. And a fire starts. And the people who live in that house are all like, what do we need to do to put the fire out? Yeah. And then over the course of four years, your, your stoner, hippie, dippy DMT roommate who thinks he can control the rain invites his buddies into the house and when the fire starts, they're like, I ain't doing nothing about that fire.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And now you got a bunch of people who won't do anything. And they're the ones who started the fire in the first place. I hate it when that happens. Yeah. And then, and then, and then, and then, you know, it happens. The funniest thing is the fire starts and so you're like, at least make it rain. And he's like, I'm trying and nothing happens in your life.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I, I only brought it up because we watched the Run Hide Fight trailer earlier and I was like, you know what? This country used to have fantastic neoliberal war propaganda. Like we were really good at promoting, you know, let's get involved in the Middle east, let's do all this stuff. And we just, we don't have that anymore. And that's, you know, that, that's what we lost. We lost dollar cheeseburgers. We lost all night Walmarts and war propaganda. That's why nobody wants to sign up.

[Brett Dasic]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Venture.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I remember Kmart.

[Tim Pool]

You remember Venture? Anybody?

[Carter Banks]

I remember Kmart, but no, no, no Venture.

[Araceli Martinez]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we called it the Zebra store cuz it had black and white stripes.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Okay?

[Tim Pool]

We used to have. This is the craziest thing. When we were kids, we had so many different department stores. We had Kmart, we had Macy's, you got, you got Macy's, you got Kohl's, you got Sears, you had Venture, you had I guess technically Walmart to a certain degree. And it was like thinking back on it, I don't even know why we went to different ones. Just go to Kmart. It's right there. Yeah, Kmart's still around though, isn't it?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

There's like. So there was like one left in the town that I live. I lived in in Minnesota before I moved. I think it went out of business, like right as. Because. Just because of COVID we still have a website.

[Tim Pool]

I remember they went under Walmart.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

That's a good question. Maybe people felt crazily enough safer at Walmart than at Kmart. I have no idea.

[Phil]

They didn't. They didn't go under. I mean, Kim, are still. Kmart still exists.

[Araceli Martinez]

Does it really?

[Tim Pool]

But not like if you go to there.

[Phil]

Well, they're not everywhere.

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Phil]

But I mean, you can go. They have a website.

[Araceli Martinez]

Anything at Walmart. But Kmart was in. That wasn't the case. Like, Walmart offers you a variety of most things that.

[Brett Dasic]

There you go.

[Tim Pool]

To buy Venture. Venture, yeah. They went out of business in 1998.

[Araceli Martinez]

Oh, that.

[Tim Pool]

It had black and white stripes.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Sears.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, yeah, they're still around.

[Tim Pool]

They had 10, 000 employees. That's crazy. They went defunct and 98 online.

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Founded in St. Louis, Missouri.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Like, there's. There's a Kohl's out here. And I'm like. And it's actually pretty busy. Like, we'll drive by it. And it's actually. It's got like a Sephora in there. I'm like, people who go.

[Araceli Martinez]

I was gonna ask how many. There's the only apartment stores do you guys have around here?

[Carter Banks]

There's a Kohl's.

[Brett Dasic]

We got.

[Tim Pool]

We got to bring Venture back.

[Araceli Martinez]

Thank you.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Buy the logo. See if you can get the rights to the logo.

[Phil]

You know.

[Tim Pool]

You know what we need to do, guys, I'm not kidding. Remember I told you my business idea about a hotel where, you know, it's got rooms. Each room is a different decade. Yeah, bro, that's a. That's a.

[Phil]

You're.

[Tim Pool]

You're rich. You make a theme park where it's like. It's got 90s area and it's not rides or anything. It's just like a strip mall from the 90s.

[Araceli Martinez]

Picturesque. Something people can take pictures in for their Instagram.

[Tim Pool]

All right, I'm putting this out there right now. Calling on all the investors. I'm going to call Mark Cuban. I'm going to be like, brother, imagine this you go to the theme park and it's like there's different areas, like the 90s, 80s, 70s, and 60s. And it's just strip malls from that decade. And they only sell products in those decades. And the staff, everybody is. It's like. It's like colonial Williamsburg. They all pretend like it's the 60s.

[Phil]

So what's happening? I'm buying laser tag.

[Tim Pool]

That's what said.

[Phil]

If that's happening, I'm buying laser tag guns. Yeah, absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

For what?

[Phil]

If you're selling products from the 80s and 90s, I'm going and I'm gonna buy laser tag.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, because you can still buy those. I don't know.

[Phil]

Can you really? Laser tag.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

They make like, crazy laser tag sets you can buy on Amazon.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Googling now.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

This is one of those things where now that you're an adult, you can buy like, nice laser tag.

[Tim Pool]

Have you ever considered maybe you could just buy a tube of cookie dough and walk around eating it?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

You can just do things.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Carter Banks]

Phil.

[Phil]

I didn't even know that it existed still.

[Araceli Martinez]

They had like lathe tag parks and those.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And the funny thing is, it would probably be a lot of Gen Z at that business. They love. They love the nostalgia of a time period they didn't live through. Like, they love 90s nostalgia.

[Tim Pool]

And the restaurants, you'd have like a Pizza Hut in there.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And it would be like the family style Pizza Hut.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I did go to the one to one of the. Before everybody started getting on the whole spiel about the, you know, the old school Pizza Huts, I was. I followed a sub stack that located all of them in America. And me and my wife went to one on the way home from, like a trip to Minnesota. And it was. They had book it there. They had book it pins and book it. Like, we'd honor that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we would give you the book it thing. And then the kids who come in, if they bring it back and they

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

get it, they brought it back this year at the actual pizza.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, they did. Well, they're also doing the pizza classics.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Phil]

They solid laser tag. Minigun 2, 600.

[Araceli Martinez]

Is Pizza Hut like, not common out here?

[Tim Pool]

Well, just a hut turned into delivery. It's pretty much turned into like fast. Fast food storefronts. With no. With no.

[Carter Banks]

They usually come.

[Araceli Martinez]

I didn't know that. It was never. Not a fast food.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. It was a family restaurant. With a salad bar.

[Phil]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And a buffet.

[Carter Banks]

Sit down.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Y Pac Man.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, there's a couple. There's actually one 40 minutes from here.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So we, we should go there.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

The, there was. So we were at the Goodwill over in, in a Goodwill over in Maryland and I saw the red cups, they had a whole set of them and I grabbed them and I just forgot to buy. Like I, I didn't pick them up and bring them with me. I was like, oh, we got to bring these. I was going to bring them here and put them on the tables and completely forgot they were gone. The next time we went, all right,

[Tim Pool]

here's what we need. We need somebody who can run the development and then we need investors because we're going to need like several million dollars for this project. I, I bet I could go to some ultra wealth people I know and they'd be like, yes, I'll commit money to this. Problem is who's going to actually do the day to day operations. That's hard to find because you need a high level person for that.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, put applications in.

[Tim Pool]

But considering their TikTok accounts with like 10 million followers and all they do is post fake. It's the 90s again videos and they get millions of views, bro, I guarantee you this place would be sold out every single day. Now hold on, wait. Imagine this. I know each and every one of you would spend your life savings Christmas morning in the 90s.

[Phil]

50 bucks. Really?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Nintendo 64.

[Tim Pool]

We have, what we have is there will be like 10 houses on a block and each house is going to cost like 10 grand to rent for Christmas Eve to Christmas because you can only have one family for each house. So that's really only like 100 grand. But for that 10 grand you can be in a house just like it was 1993. And here's the thing, you can give to your kids what you had. And this is the only way to do it. I mean remember, even if you're like, no, no, I have a house and I treat. But the cell phones are still there and the flat screen TVs are still there. I'm talking the old box TVs back projection. You look out the windows and the windows, it's going to be the neighborhood with snow falling everywhere.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It was a better time economically because Kevin McAllister's dad could buy 20 large pizzas and fly everybody in his family to France anyways.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, what were the pizzas? It was like 20 large pizzas, like 80 bucks or something.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I think somebody did the math and said it actually was a pretty accurate number, but you know.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, I know. One was 1197.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

That's all it was. The delivery. That's where the money comes from.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this next story. We got this From Reddit. President Ms. Reads transistor as transgender and decides to just go with it. Goes off on tangent. Actually, the real story is Donald Trump was pointing out that when they passed the CHIPS act, they were offering grants to companies so long as they had a certain number of trans individuals at the highest level of the company. That's what he is complaining about.

[Brett Dasic]

But they.

[Tim Pool]

This is how propaganda works. This post was on the top of Reddit and all of the comments are from default libs who don't know anything. And so I look at this stuff and I'm like, how do you swim against a riptide when you've got evil people that can snap their fingers and put up fake content like this? And those people who are not interested in politics are never going to watch the show. For the fact check, let me play the clip for you so you can hear for yourself.

[Brett Dasic]

Bring back the car plants, the air plants are all coming back. If they don't, they have to pay taxes. The chips. We had this ridiculous CHIPS act where you get billions of dollars through a company and they didn't even know what the hell to do with it. You give them billions of dollars, they say they're going to build. Nobody knew what to do with it. And of course the standards were so high, if you weren't transgender, as an example, you didn't qualify. So they get the money that hired. They look all over for transgender people to run the company. Large portions. They couldn't find them. They weren't into the chip making business, I guess.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Right.

[Brett Dasic]

They had other things on their mind. But this was the Biden fools, those idiots that almost destroyed our country.

[Tim Pool]

So all of us, who knows what DEI is and why it was bad here? We hear what Trump says and we agree. It's insane that you had to find a trans person to run a company to get a grant on Reddit. I'm gonna, I'm gonna make, I wanna make sure I break this down as best I can. No one accidentally takes this clip, frames it as though Trump meant transistor, and then posts it to Reddit. It's just not an accident. No, this is not a mistake. This was intentionally clipped and posted to. It's similar to what we call information vaccination. Now there's going to be a bunch of libs who don't understand what they're hearing and don't know what DEI is and they're going to go around being like, Trump, Trump was talking about transistors and said transgender because he couldn't read. And then he just goes off like some maniac. And then you won't be able to explain to them why they're wrong because their mind does not remember this. They don't have photographic memories. They just remember this brief blip of a headline. Now, let's just break down really quick. Trump said transistor people. That's not a phrase. He didn't accidentally say transistor people. But this is the nature of propaganda. And you know, what I will say is you've got people like, you know, David Pakman and Brian Tyler Cohen and Destiny, they know all of this, but they're evil.

[Phil]

They'll still.

[Tim Pool]

So they will maintain those lies and they'll roll with it.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And that's the, and that's just the politically active side of it. X is worse now because of the monetization on the platform where people just put fake quotes on videos that they know people won't watch because they know that whatever they're saying, even if it's not accurate or even close to what was said in the video, nobody's going to check. They just want to anger people.

[Araceli Martinez]

It also says a lot about the people who are watching this. And they don't care if he, you know, mispronounced a word or not. They, they only want to make him look bad. And more than anything, Trump has been a subject of Propagand and the misuse of it by the left. I mean, do you guys remember that CNN video that was clipped during January 6th to make it look like he encouraged people to go out and attack? Like, that was diabolical. And we just, it just nobody cared that it was a false video. They wanted it to be true and they did not care that it wasn't.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, the side by side video of like they showed, I think it was Bernie Sanders or Obama going to see what is that thing called the Washington now? What is the, the big rock with all the faces, the presence on it, Mount Rushmore. I don't know why that escaped me, but they, they said, oh, Trump went to this racist place and to do this thing. And then Bernie Sanders like, oh, he goes to this other thing is anyway,

[Phil]

a lot of things.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Look, the, the narrative that's spun by the left is essentially always Trump bad. And however they can adjust the video, they're going to do it. It's really hard to, it's hard to convince people that the, the media does this because this is a quote from Michael Malice He's. He says, when you try to convince a normal person that isn't really plugged into politics that the media lies, the reaction you get is as if you told them that the. The. Whether the meteorologist, the weatherman, he's lying. Not. He's getting it wrong. He's lying because. And they feel like, why would they do that? Why would the weatherman lie to me? They look at you like you've got some, you know, a dick growing out of your forehead or something. Like, they're just like, can you. What. What do you mean they're lying?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Explain that. Like, what's the response to somebody who says that to you then? So say you're talking to somebody. They're not politically initiated. They don't really understand that there's a reason for it. You could give them a bunch of information about, like, look, these are the political leanings of the editors and all of these newsrooms and all of this stuff, and how much money can be made through lies in politics. But what's the basic answer you give to somebody who asks that question?

[Phil]

So the best thing to do is what Tim did, when I forget the gentleman's name that was here last week to show them a video, right? Show them the actual Jason Ellis. Yeah, Jason Ellis. Thank you. Show them the. The full cut of whatever edited thing is, any argument that you're making. Show them video proof that is still functional. I think that's going to become less functional because of AI videos and people that are, you know, people are going to be like, that's not real. Or you're. You're showing me something else. Because that was Jason's first response. We showed him a video of an articulating tractor with. With forks on the front, lifting the. The razor wire and fence so people could wait across the Rio Grande and come into the country. Right? These are illegals coming in. And they were. There wasn't just a handful of them. There was. Was a couple hundred probably, that were coming in at that. That particular one. And Tim related how that was by order of the Biden administration. They were doing that because the Biden administration said. And he goes, you're lying. You know, and we had to. We had to show him, like, not just show him that. We had to show him context. And he's like. And he was basically like, I can't believe it. So to answer your question, I'm not 100% sure the best way to do

[Araceli Martinez]

it,

[Phil]

because it's always changing. The more evidence you can present, the better. But again, it's still people that are gonna look at you and be like, what do you mean the meteorologist is lying about?

[Araceli Martinez]

If it doesn't validate whatever they believe in, they will just choose to ignore it.

[Phil]

It's worth pointing out. I totally agree with you. But it's worth pointing out the people in this particular context, in this scenario don't have a strong political leaning. You're never gonna get. Look, if someone put on a pussy hat and was at the rally for women. Doesn't matter what you show them, they're gonna. They're just gonna say you're lying because you're on the right. The tribalism in this country is very strong. But the very few people that you could sway one way or the other, people that don't pay much of attention but are actually interested, you know, you have to have a good amount of evidence to prove to them, because it does sound ridiculous, like the news is lying to you. You know, Let me, let me show you.

[Tim Pool]

This is from the same subreddit. It was also going viral on the front page. Talarico says what they're doing in Texas is a redrawing the lines in the middle of the decade, which is unprecedented. It's like changing the rules after halftime because you're worried the other team is going to win. Here's the clip.

[James Talarico (clip)]

You're essentially, you mentioned mid decade. And this is also confusing for folks who don't obsess about politics. But you're supposed to. To adjust district boundaries at the beginning of every decade after we get a census because population changes and you want to adjust the districts.

[Araceli Martinez]

Right.

[James Talarico (clip)]

If you've got a place that's growing rapidly or a place that's it's declining, you got to adjust. Everybody has one vote, one person, one vote. But what they're doing in Texas is they are redrawing the lines in the middle of the decade, which is unprecedented. I mean, it's like changing the rules after halftime because you're worried the other team's going to win the game. I mean, it's cheating. And more politicians to say that.

[Araceli Martinez]

Oh, my gosh.

[James Talarico (clip)]

That they're cheating.

[Brett Dasic]

Yes.

[Araceli Martinez]

Your average.

[Tim Pool]

So what happened is that in 2021, when Texas attempted to redistrict, the Biden, DOJ blocked them from doing so under the VRA, the lawsuit persisted until Donald Trump entered office in 2025. When Donald Trump entered office, he ordered the DOJ to drop that lawsuit, which allowed Texas to finalize their redistricting. They had already been trying to do for five years. Talarico is incorrect on this. And then you get, you know, Charlamagne being like, they should call it more. People should call it cheating. Now the question is, do they know? Considering that Taylor Rico is from Texas, I'm assuming he's lying. Yeah, because he's from there and knows the Biden DOJ blocked their redistricting for four years.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah. You don't give the politician the benefit of the doubt in this case.

[Tim Pool]

And Charlemagne's not smart enough to use Google right there on his computer. That's what we do on this show. I Google things when people come out and say, I'm look it up. Maybe I'm wrong. He won't even do that. And so you have a. You know what? I'm a monarchist. The Democrats are right about everything. We need a dictator just to tell everybody they're gonna get whatever they want because they're not smart enough to use Google anyway, and then just put an authoritarian in charge. It's the best for him.

[Araceli Martinez]

I mean, ironically, he's describing exactly what happened in California where they outright said that they were redistricting to essentially cheat or blaming Trump. Fight back. And Texas was redistricting because they were ordered to do so by a court back in. What was it, 2020?

[Tim Pool]

Well, they were blocked in 2021. So when the lawsuit was pulled, 2025 was the soonest they'd be able to redraw their districts because of the Biden administration.

[Araceli Martinez]

And then California just decided to redistrict because of Texas. So that was just outright cheating. And the. The literal propaganda that you would hear on the radio and on every ad was stick it to Trump. Nothing about the redistricting. But your average voter is Charlemagne in the back, who has no idea. And they. They don't. They don't know what they're voting for most of the time. Not informed.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

So. Oh, God.

[Tim Pool]

And they're not willing to look it up.

[Araceli Martinez]

Google. Amazing.

[Tim Pool]

But no, but look, look, look.

[Araceli Martinez]

This is.

[Tim Pool]

This is what motivates. Like, you know, when I look at, like, Hassan and he's. And he's. That he was. I watched that video on Laura Ingram earlier where they. He's handed a little red book. He's like, oh, my God. And I'm like, I get why he thinks that, because he's tired of trying to explain to people. You know, to be fair, I think it's. Hassan never actually tried. He's just like, hey, look, these people give me money. And that's why he likes authoritarianism. But there's A lot of people on the left where I know that they're smarter than this. Like David Pakman, like, he's lying. Like, that dude I've known for a very long time, he's not accidentally putting out fake news every single day. He knows what it's like. When he did the video about Trump pooping his pants, he knows that's not true, but it got him 2 million views, and at 2 million views is 10, $20,000, and he does not care. And you know what? When I see stuff like this, this is the motivating factor for a person like David Pakman. He watches Tyler Rico say fabricated nonsense. And Charlie man goes, yeah. And then David Pakman's like, why should I bother arguing with them? They're too stupid.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

You think that's the. So I asked Phil earlier, I said, like, how do you explain to somebody who's politically uninitiated why you did a good job of explaining, like, how you can explain to them that they're being lied to, but can you explain to them why people in the media they've trusted for decades and, you know, explicitly because, you know, you trust the guy wearing the suit on the. On the television, explain to them why they would lie about something like that?

[Phil]

Because everyone has an opinion, and everyone has some kind of framework with which they look at the world, right? And people that are in the media largely have a framework that boils down to some kind of oppression dynamic, right? People that are in a position of authority are somehow oppressing the people that are not in positions of authority, whether that be people that are wealthy or oppressing poor people or people that are. You know, that's kind of the dynamic. You look at it, you can see it with feminism. Women look at men as. Feminists look at men as oppressing. Women do that, and then they'll say, well, okay, I can understand that, or I can see that. Avoid using. Especially if you're talking to someone that's totally uninitiated, avoid saying things like, well, it's just Marxism, right? Which is what. What you're talking about. Like an oppression dynamic. That's something that. That's very. That's very much a leftist frame of reference. It's a Marxist power dynamic that you're talking about. But avoid those kind of words because those kind of buzzwords make people zone out.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Feels like it all started at the Frankfurt School.

[Phil]

It actually had. All started with the French Revolution. Everyone thinks that there's a lot of people that be like, oh, it's the Jews, but it wasn't the Jews, it was the French. But yeah, I would say look. And so the people that are in positions like in the media, they look at themselves as in a position of authority and they feel it's their duty to, to help people that are in, in the underclass or, or tell people the way that they should look at the world.

[Tim Pool]

I want to show you all this. So here's the Reddit post. Let's scroll down. I sorted by controversial, which usually means anyone trying to correct the manipulations and the lies, they get downvoted. We then have this post, if we scroll down a little bit, this person says Reddit man says:6 hours ago they tried to change the lines after the 2020 census but the Biden admin blocked them. So when Trump was elected, they stopped blocking Texas from redistrict. So they went ahead with their redistricting that was based off the 2020 census. It's definitely not cheating in Texas is still less gerrymander than Illinois or California, minus one. So that means you're not going to see it if you're just a default user. This person responds with plus three points. Where do you get your information that's unequivocally false? They redrew the maps to finalize them before the 24 election. Now they're trying to redraw them again before the 26 election. If they're allowed to continue to keep rigging the systems. This one's upvoted. How about this from the Texas Tribune? DOJ drops fight against Texas political maps as Trump administration retreats from voting rights case. The Biden admin had challenged a Republican led redistricting plan that diluted the political power of minorities. March 13, 2025. When we scroll down, they say the case involves Texas's 2021 redrawing of the maps for the 2020 census. And here you go, my friends from The DOJ Archives. December 6, 2021. DOJ files lawsuit against the state of Texas to challenge statewide redistricting plans. It's what do you do?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

You don't, you can't.

[Tim Pool]

What do you do when half the people in this country are just evil liars? I got to clarify. The leaders on the left are evil liars and people like Charlemagne are too stupid to call out James Talarico and do a Google search.

[Araceli Martinez]

Well, you know what the funny part is too? Texas redistricting was stopped in courts because they were saying the left was saying that they were diluting the, the black and the Latino vote. But when you go to California, California was redistricted in order to put the black and Latino vote together and in favor of Democrats. So when it's Democrats and the left doing it, it's absolutely okay. And we're seeing this happen in real time and at the, at the exact same time. So it's, it's about partisan politics. It's not about what's right or wrong.

[Phil]

Yeah, I mean, look, everything nowadays is partisan politics. Like we, that because of how polarized we are.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Even burritos.

[Araceli Martinez]

Even burritos like racially redistrict. Redistricting based off of race is illegal in Texas because it favors the Republicans. And then when you do it in California, it's completely legal because it favors the Democrats.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Hypocrisy is irrelevant. It is not about hypocrisy. Right. It's about hierarchy. The people that are in, specifically the Democrats, I, I personally think the Democrats are more likely to do this because there are, it's not that Republicans won't be abusive to power, won't be, won't do things that are wrong, but Republicans are still holding on to the, this is the right way to do things. You look at the way that Dobbs got turned over. The, the Roe versus Wade. Right. They took 50 years to do that. They didn't say let's try to figure out workarounds. They didn't say let's change the, the, the, the playing field. They said, we're going to work on this and we're going to get people elected, get a court and then we're going to get, get a court that will be favorable and then we're going to bring something to the court. And it took 50 years. Democrats, now they see Trump doing things that they don't like and they're talking about they're going to get rid of the filibuster, they're going to get rid of the Electoral College pack the Supreme Court. The far left is saying we need to get rid of the Senate, we need to get rid of the presidency. We need to, you know, do all courts of all kinds of things to, to change the, the existing structures because they don't like the results that they're getting with the existing structures. Right. So Republicans, yes, of course they'll do things that people are going to say are bad. And I'm not saying that they're in innocent, they're not perfect. But the, the right and the left just operate entirely differently. The right does look at things. I mean, you still hear people on the right saying, you know, we can't do that because it's not good, you know, it's unconstitutional or what have you. People on the left are like change

[Araceli Martinez]

f in constitution problem that we have in California. So the mail in ballots Republicans refused have prior to the last primary, they had refused to take advantage of the mail in ballots because they believe it to be wrong. But it's legal in California and so is the way that they collect ballots. So. But, but, but they don't want to play the game because they just, they want to take the moral high ground. But what has that got us in California?

[Phil]

It gets you losing elections.

[Araceli Martinez]

Exactly.

[Phil]

And the left will do to the United States. What they have done in, in California, which is basically install us, is you change the law. So that way the Democrats always win. Yes, Right. The chances of a Republican winning in California are incredibly low.

[Araceli Martinez]

They have legalized fraud.

[Phil]

Yeah, well, they, exactly. They have. They've legalized it. So. And Spencer Pratt's put out videos explaining this. But like, the Republicans are not willing to exercise power the way that Democrats are willing to exercise power. And I forget who said it, but Tim brings it up a lot. There's a, there's a great way to describe it. Republicans look at alcohol the way that wine snobs look at alcohol. Democrats look at power. Did I say alcohol? Republicans look at power the way that wine snobs look at alcohol. Democrats look at power the way that alcoholics look at alcohol. So it's, it's about the alcohol, right? It's about the power. Republicans are like, well, you know, we have some, we have power now, but they won't do things that are actually significant. And I know right now people love to say, oh, the Republicans control the government, blah, blah, blah. They don't control the government. The House is a thin margin. The Senate's a thin margin. All the things that people say we want to see, you know, rammed through, it would never happen. But you look at the last time the Democrats had a super majority and they shoved through Obamacare and none of the things that the Democrats said that were going to happen because of Obamacare have materialized. And people are still saying, you know, I can't afford health care. Health care in our system here. Obamacare was supposed to, supposed to fix all that. It didn't.

[Araceli Martinez]

It did benefit the insurance companies. They made millions.

[Phil]

It benefited the insurance companies. And there are some people that didn't have health care who do now. But there are some people that had health care that don't anymore or can't. You can't afford it. Anymore and your wait times are significantly longer now. I mean, trying to get a primary, it's going to take, it's going to be six to eight months before you can see a primary.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And that was a major shot at the middle class anyways because they're the ones who had the insurance premiums that ended up doubling or tripling.

[Phil]

Yeah, I had health insurance at the time I was married and I had, I had health insurance through my wife's company and they changed it and I didn't have health insurance after that, you know, so because they were like, oh, you can't do it with the family members, this. So the way that Democrats behave is about getting, achieving the goal that they want. And they will go around the system, they will lie, they will cheat to get there. And Republican, there are Republicans that will lie and they will tell you stories, but they don't approach power the same way that Democrats approach power.

[Araceli Martinez]

But I mean, as a whole we're not seeing this propaganda from the right. We're not even seeing a really good like media response from the right to a lot of the leftist propaganda that we're seeing. And I, and I see that at a smaller scale.

[Phil]

Unpack that then. Tell me, tell me what you mean.

[Araceli Martinez]

Okay, so say take Prop 50. We're just talking about that in California. Maybe it's in my state that this, this is happening. But every time I would turn on the rad and I was listening to the radio just because I wanted to see what ads were on the radio, what I would hear was in Spanish and in English non stop, every five minutes. Hey, every two minutes actually was vote yes on Prop 50, stick it to Trump. Right. Not once on the radio in Spanish did I hear anything that was informing people of why they shouldn't vote for Prop 50. When I was on the radio in English, I heard it not even a fraction like 1/10 of the time that I would hear the, the, the propaganda, the propaganda from the left. And it wasn't informed well, it wasn't really informative or catchy. So there really is no real fight against the lies that the left is spreading. Not on mainstream media, not the way that the left has, I would say monopolized, you know, social media.

[Tim Pool]

You know what I just, just this reminded me of, I feel like you guys, what was that, what was that commercial? The Planner. All fruit was out. It was, do you remember?

[Phil]

I remember Planner, Alfred. I don't remember Alfred. Commercial. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Where it's like, there's like an old rich lady and she's like, will you pass the planner all fruit? Oh, yeah, pass it. And then some guy's like, please pass the planet on off. And then some guy goes, well, someone passed the jelly. And they all like, faint. And I. Republicans are the old lady freaking out and fanning herself because someone said the wrong word. And the left is the guy yelling for jelly. What I mean by this is the left is unabashed. They're ruthless. They want what they want. Nothing's going to stand in their way. And the right is a lady going, oh, yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And they. And they use their own moral framework of like, we have to do this because it's the right thing to do in the ends, justify the means, which is why it permeates every aspect of the culture. This happens in Hollywood, too. They love stories about doing bad things for the right reason because it falls in line with their political philosophy, which is to just do whatever you can to get any amount of power that you can wield against the public.

[Araceli Martinez]

In California, 1989, we have legislation being passed that would allow the politicians to use taxpayer funds to run their campaigns. This is the end of elections because we all know that whoever you could

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

use, like the taxpayer money of somebody who wouldn't vote for you to run

[Araceli Martinez]

your own to run your campaign.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

That's insane.

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah. Meaning that the government will be electing if that passes. And if it. If it gets through, you know, the assembly in the Senate, if that passes, and the government will be electing itself. Itself. The people will now have lost their voice. But it's on the ballot. If it does get to the ballot, they're going to vote for it.

[Tim Pool]

So stuff still exists, does it?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

What about Gray Poupon?

[Tim Pool]

Martin says food lion.

[Carter Banks]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

I'll just show you the commercial real quick. For those who don't remember, please pass the all fruit.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Oh, I have seen this.

[Tim Pool]

Is there. Republicans,

[Brett Dasic]

would you please pass the jelly? All fruit is real fruit.

[Phil]

Would you please pass the jelly?

[Brett Dasic]

You call it delicious, you'll call it remarkable, but please don't dare call it jelly.

[Tim Pool]

That's what Republicans are doing. Like some dude throws a Molotov cocktail at Tesla facility and the Republican member

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

of Congress is going, strongly worded letter.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, strongly worded letters.

[Phil]

I mean, the meme of the strongly worded letter doesn't come out of nowhere. Right. The Republicans just don't exercise power the same way that Democrats do.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Phil]

You know, they. They just don't. And there's plenty of history and evidence of that fact. So I. I mean, this is part of the Reason why you get so many people on the right nowadays that are calling for, like, some kind of authoritarian in the. In the office of the White House. That's. This is why people looked at Donald Trump. They're like, he's not doing enough. He's not doing enough.

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna buy some of this when I get a chance. It's sweetened with grape and apple juice. No. High fructose corn syrup.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Relatively good for you.

[Araceli Martinez]

They still business?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I got it at Martin's down the street. I'm gonna go pick some up. I'm gonna tell my wife you feel

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

very hoisting the planner.

[Tim Pool]

All fruit from now on. And then, you know, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna antagonize her. I'm gonna be like, will you pass the old fruit? And she's like, stop doing that.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I mean, every time.

[Araceli Martinez]

It also doesn't have, like. Naya Bukele is a great example of an authoritarian government that actually worked.

[Phil]

And if you look at, like, if you look at authoritarians on the right and the left on historically, like, someone like Pinochet or someone like Franco, like those countries, like, those guys left office without, like, the whole country being destroyed. You look at communists or socialists, and they're either murdered by the people or, like, I think, like, the Soviet Union completely fell apart as a. As a. An entity. They don't generally leave power peaceably, you

[Araceli Martinez]

know, and people have. Are criticizing Na Bukele right now because he just extended the length of what he can be president. I don't. I think it might be the smartest move just because in a state, in a country like that, he took down criminal organizations. The moment that somebody else takes over, you don't know the corruption or the extent of the corruption of the other politicians or people there. So there's a really good chance that the state would. The country would regress to what it had been before. The only way would. The only way to keep it safe, the only way to keep it progressing would be under the same person with the same strong hand. Other than that, you're risking losing everything that you've worked for.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Araceli Martinez]

And the Salvadorian people love him.

[Phil]

Yeah, I was gonna say. And the people of El Salvador, like, they're gonna. He's gonna be voted back in. They love him.

[Araceli Martinez]

You know, the biggest criticism I've heard from him is, oh, but he's only helped, you know, the tourism industry. No, no, no, no, no, no. When you fix a nice country, you know what naturally happens? People want to come back and see it.

[Phil]

Yep. It's, it's true. You know, so, yeah, I don't, I don't know. I don't know what the solution is because, I mean, I make a joke now, like, we need another Lincoln. And people, some people like, oh, you know, Lincoln was, was a bad president because he exercised all these powers that he didn't have and stuff. And it's like, yep. But most of America looks at Lincoln and says, you know, Lincoln was one of our greatest presidents. If you articulate the argument, we need someone like Pinochet, we need another Franco, people automatically think that guy was a fascist. That guy was bad. Because the word fascist in the United States is, is completely and totally, you know, associated with negativity.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Lincoln also means, like, vastly different things to different groups.

[Phil]

Well, that's the point I'm getting to. But, but most of the people that, most of the, most Americans nowadays, when they think if you take polls right, Lincoln's consistently in the top three.

[Brett Dasic]

Right.

[Phil]

So if you say we need another Lincoln, people don't think you're talking about a tyrant.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

No. They think you're talking about the guy who freed the slaves.

[Phil]

Well, yeah, exactly. And that's the, that's the thing. We need someone that's strong like Lincoln. We need someone that's willing to do what's necessary to save the country like Abraham Lincoln did. And hold on with it. The point that I'm making is there's a lot of people on the right now that don't actually have all that fond of an opinion of Lincoln. But the argument that you're making to people is what matters, not your personal opinion. This is the same reason I said that Dan Crenshaw's a for, for that, for the argument that he got into on X. Kids don't care that you're telling, you know, telling them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. The people that can pull themselves up by their bootstraps, the people that are go getters, they already went out and got it. They're already out there getting it.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

It.

[Phil]

The people that are that want something for free, you need to talk to them in a way that they, with the way that they understand. You have to meet people where they are. So going around America and saying, oh, we need a Pinochet, we need a, we need a Franco because they knew how to take care of communists. That's not going to play. And you're giving the left the most valuable weapon that you possibly could. You're saying that you want a fascist but if you say we need a Lincoln, we need someone that is willing to do what's necessary to save the United States. You listen to the things that the DSA is talking about, talking about getting rid of the Constitution, they're talking about getting rid of this, getting rid of that. We need someone that is going to save this country, someone like Lincoln that has the courage to stand up and save the country the way that Abraham Lincoln did.

[Tim Pool]

Have anyone like that?

[Phil]

No, we don't. But the argument, the argument is far more appealing to the average person and it doesn't automatically make them say, no, you're talking about fascism. Even though Lincoln threw journalists in jail, even though Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, even though Lincoln literally had an army go into, you know, the southern states and say, no, you're not going to leave.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

There was a, like, I forget who it was. I followed a musician. In fact, I won't blow up a spot. I follow a musician on Instagram. And like, you know what, I normally don't follow most celebrities because I, for the most part I get the news on X and whatnot and I don't really care what their opinions do you brain rot what their opinions are on, on politics. And he, he made a post about we, you know, he what, he rewatched the Lincoln movie. He's like, it brings, really brings us back to a time when we had strong leaders in. And all I could think about was like, I can think of people on both sides of the aisle that would agree with you for vastly different reasons. And the sad thing is is most people just aren't having that nuanced of a discussion.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Araceli Martinez]

Also, society is too soft to understand what it would take to actually fix the country. The idea is nice, but the execution of it is what people wouldn't, you know, go on board.

[Phil]

A lot of deportations is what it'll take.

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah.

[Phil]

A lot of deep.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And then the burrito prices will come down. And Dan Crenshaw can.

[Phil]

Look, you can convince people that deportations are a good idea. When you tell, look, once you show them the evidence that like, hey, you know, rentals and home Prices are up 30, 20 to 30% because of immigration. The reason that you can't find a job is because there, there are illegal immigrants here that companies are, are putting in those positions.

[Tim Pool]

Let's talk about this story that's from the day in the Mail chilling ring video. Wild Eyed Boy 15 dressed as clown went door to door in chilling ring video before allegedly murdering elderly neighbor. Quote, I've got a Gift for you. So here's the video. I don't know if they actually have the. Here we go.

[Phil]

Turn the light on.

[Brett Dasic]

You.

[Araceli Martinez]

Has a neighbor opened the door to this guy? Is that how he got in the house?

[Tim Pool]

No idea.

[Araceli Martinez]

I'd be.

[Tim Pool]

Let's find out. Let's find out. 15 year old. His identity was not disclosed. Was taken into custody on Tuesday, part of a homicide investigation. The victim was identified as John Wesley Allen Sr. 78, by the St. Clair County Coroner. Less than an hour before police arrived, a teen was seemingly captured peering into a local ring camera. In a hushed tone, he says, I have a gift for you. I've been looking for you. He's identified and found at a home. Illinois State police said video footage of the suspect dress in a clown cosmic had been circulating and that they are working to collect all relevant video. Do you guys think this is just. Hey, look, sometimes people are crazy or is, you know, everything going to hell in a handbag?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

You know, there's people just crazy sometimes.

[Tim Pool]

Everything's fine. Nothing to see here, folks. Just a kid. Just as a clown.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Not saying that it's not important, but I'm saying this is we. I kind of had the same feeling the other day when people were watching the Perez Hilton video, which is like mental illness and drug addiction and bad reactions to medications happen all the time. And I feel like as a society, we feel the need to give meaning to something where sometimes it's just a tragic situation.

[Tim Pool]

I think we need an apocalypse, you know?

[Phil]

When you say an apocalypse, do you mean like civil war kind of thing?

[Tim Pool]

No, no, like in the truest sense of what apocalypse means. A revelation. And that can be attained through like, I don't know, let's like say the magnetosphere weakens as the polls flip, knocking out our entire electric, you know, a couple years comet.

[Araceli Martinez]

We just don't.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know about a comet. I mean, that would just kill everybody. I'm saying like small. If the magnetosphere, if the poles flip and the magnetosphere dissipates briefly as the flip's happening, then solar radiation fries all of our electronics, sending us back to the 1800s. And then all this stuff is over. I mean, like, don't get me wrong, in the first couple of weeks, it'll be like the craziest humanity has not seen the hell of 9 million New Yorkers without running water.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

You should watch the show Revolution if you can find it somewhere.

[Phil]

You mean 4 million New Yorkers.

[Araceli Martinez]

Like, do you think this is like

[Phil]

a first world problem?

[Araceli Martinez]

This isn't happening in.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no.

[Araceli Martinez]

There's developing New York.

[Tim Pool]

The New York Metro is about 9 million and the running water stops in about three days.

[Phil]

Yeah, and they'll eat each other.

[Tim Pool]

Right, so. So what I'm saying is no one has ever seen in the history of Earth a Megalopolis metro of 9 million having their water turn off. So the people are still alive and they're going to start tearing each other to shreds.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, actually there was. There was a serial killer. I forget his name. A serial killer in Mexico who's literally known as the old Lady Killer.

[Araceli Martinez]

Mexico does not count. Mexico is. They've got like the. What, one of the 10th largest economies in the entire world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Relies on drugs. Doesn't change the fact.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I'm just saying that like it's, it's not an am. Serial killers aren't an American phenomenon.

[Araceli Martinez]

I think it's just a more. A more developed country phenomenon. Not serial killers, because I don't think he's a serial killer. I just mean like stunts like that that where. And especially with the younger generations where they don't have real problems, so they create their own problems, which is why we see so much depression in the younger generations because they just have nothing to live for because they.

[Tim Pool]

I'm nothing. I'm just saying if the power went out, like all electronics stopped working for even a couple of months, it would be a cleansing purge of the earth.

[Phil]

Oh yeah.

[Carter Banks]

This probably wouldn't happen without you.

[Tim Pool]

Probably get like 3 billion deaths in like a week.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Find if you can. There's a show called Revolution where basically the. All the power in. In the United States is just all goes out at once and everybody has to learn how survive.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but they, I see it, but do they show like people in New York drinking each other's blood?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

No, there's.

[Tim Pool]

Come on.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

There's no blood drinking.

[Tim Pool]

Fake news. Fake news.

[Araceli Martinez]

I mean, you're not going to be able to see it because you're not going to be there. You're. You're going to be here all safe.

[Tim Pool]

I don't want to see nowhere.

[Araceli Martinez]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Watch that.

[Araceli Martinez]

I mean, you're asking if they show.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not, I'm not serious. That it's a good thing that should happen.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

So you don't want to comment the

[Tim Pool]

point that these stories and the street takeovers and the department store raids happen because like the jar of human development is just overflowing and what overflows is just chaos everywhere. And you know, it used to be that you had to struggle quite a bit to survive, but you did. And now look, I'm gonna say this, all due respect to a lot of people, the struggles that we all go through, it's like a tenth of what the struggles were 200 years ago ago. Like you'd stub your toe and get septic and die.

[James Talarico (clip)]

Yep.

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think this is more of a more developed country issue. What, you don't see this happening at the rate that it's happening here in underdeveloped countries where they stub their phones, they stub their toes and they die.

[Tim Pool]

Well that's true too. But like in India there was that case where the like there were some young girls on the bus and then guys like every guy on the bus just decided to mutilate and rape and murder the women. And like it was so bad. Earmuffs for the families. They, they snapped like a bar off the bus handle and jammed it into the woman and like killed her and disemboweled her. Like that's. That happens in India. Yeah, things like that. And I'm like, oh yeah, murderers. And we get stuff like this too. I'm just saying like across the board

[Araceli Martinez]

every country has their problems.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I guess, I suppose if, if you. I'm just saying it's, it's always going to be a different kind of problem. I guess in Access we get weird stuff like this.

[Carter Banks]

It's just because we have ring cameras.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I was just like, literally a lot of it is like if you look, if you look at the problems of the world throughout history, just imagine what it would have looked like if at that time in history X was around and you could follow the news of what's going on.

[Tim Pool]

Like Billy the Kid is just live streaming himself, shooting people.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Who's. There's a, there's an account on X that it's like set in the past and he updates it as if it's happening in real time.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Is the 100 year old one.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, he's like, it's coming up on 911 and everyone's like, so is he's gonna report on it?

[Tim Pool]

Have you seen the guy who's posting from the future? Future?

[Phil]

No.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Oh yes.

[Tim Pool]

He posts a video from like 20 years in the future.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It is really interesting how he makes the videos. They're really, they're really good.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

The inject. But that, that's another side effect of what you're talking about here. We have it so good in society that we can go on Creative arts projects where we make videos from the future. Like, yes, we have, we have insane 15 year olds who do creepy and kill old ladies and that's awful. But the technology and the abundance that we have has also allowed us to do other things. So it's really a matter of where you fall on the line. Yes, 200 years ago you could stub your toe and, and die. But it's a losing argument for Dan Crenshaw because no politician should be saying suck it up and deal with it. It's different if it's different generations having that.

[Tim Pool]

That's the annoying thing with the burrito debate. You know, Ben Shapiro is like, stop eating fancy burritos. And it is true that you can get a burrito Taco Bell for literally like three bucks.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I don't even care if they do it. It's only politicians that shouldn't be having that. It's a losing argument for a politician. That's the thing.

[Tim Pool]

It's a, like, it's so easy to be a Democrat. That's why I think Democrats just lie about everything. Because it's just the Democrat voters are really dumb. So when you go to them and say, vote for me and I'm going to tax the rich to give you a raise, like it literally makes. You know, in the interview I did with Julie from all sides, I definitely recommend you guys check it out. The Tim Pool Show, I was like, if a politician, I said, if Elizabeth Warren says she wants to tax Elon Musk to fund health care, that's, that's not legally possible. That's not mathematically possible. Do we say she's lying or wrong? And Julie's like, no, that'd be biased. And I'm like, well, it's one of the two. So why, how is it wrong to be like, knowing that it is not legally possible to, to have Elon liquidate shares in his public traded companies, that's. They're not allowed to do it. He. You would not be able to tax his net worth and it would not provide enough money for these programs in the first place. Elizabeth Warren is either wrong or intentionally misleading you. It can't be anything else. And you know, she's like, well, you can't say that. That's biased. And I'm like, okay, well, the truth is biased.

[Phil]

I guess the truth is biased.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Yep.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

But you think a lot of stories like this, it's just because you spend all day looking at the news that it can kind of color your world view in a way where the average person who's not looking at the news all day long. They don't have this. That same sort of.

[Tim Pool]

It's a double edged sword. Yeah, we hear a lot of like, go touch grass. And it's like, oh yeah, yeah. To all the people that did nothing but touch grass this year, they're now wondering why their milk is at five bucks. Now wondering why their eggs are at five bucks. And they don't know and they don't. And you can go to them and say, well, maybe you touched too much grass and you should have paid attention to what was going on because it's a war, you know, and these things matter. And there are primaries and communists are winning in certain areas. So it's going to get a lot worse.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

At the very least, every time something happens in with Iran, you know when to go fill up your gas tank before the gas starts to spike back up again if you're paying attention.

[Tim Pool]

So you, you, you have to find balance, right? When, when you, when you go out to the real world, you'll find that most people are not as knowledgeable about all of these things. And then when you come online, you'd find that everybody talking is super high strung and following everything and half, half of them are wrong.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

And.

[Tim Pool]

But if you only are just touching grass, then you're out of the loop. You have no idea what's happening. And then one day you're gonna come home and you're gonna find that your power's off and you're like, why is the electricity off? And then your neighbor who wasn't touching grass is gonna have, you know, 50 years worth of beans in his basement and a bunch of guns.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's about finding a balance. Like for me, when it comes to doing this show, like I pay as close attention to politics as I can put up with that deals with also my work. But in general, I try to find some type of middle ground to keep myself mentally sane and stable because all politics all the time is too depressing.

[Carter Banks]

This is a personal anecdote, but something like this, similar to this did happen in my neighborhood and I saw it in the Facebook group. There was a kid walking around like shirtless with a weird, like, with like a knife. And apparently he had broken into somebody's house and he was caught standing over their bed. So this is, this does happen, like not just on the Internet. It's very bizarre.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I wonder, did he, did he say what the gift was?

[Tim Pool]

I hope he doesn't say, I think it was murder.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I don't want that gift. There's no return receipt for it.

[Phil]

I'm gonna say this, and this is all depending on your local laws and stuff. You should probably go to the door with a handgun if someone's like that outside of your front door. Obviously if there, there are jurisdictions where you can't do that. So this is not a blanket, blanket, this isn't blanket advice. But you know, where I live, I can carry whenever I want and I don't go to my door ever without a gun.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, you should at least lock your doors.

[Araceli Martinez]

If you're not calling me before you pull up to my house, I'm not answering the door.

[James Talarico (clip)]

I'm.

[Araceli Martinez]

If I hear a doorbell ring, I'm walking to the doorbell with a gun.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I don't remember who it was. If it was like I was just reading an interview, like an old interview. I think it was Christian Bale something. Correct. If I'm wrong was saying like it was so different when he moved to America in California. Cuz he'd like just go to his friends houses and like walk in and be like, hey, you want to hang out? They're like, you gotta call bro, before you come over. Yeah, like you need to give me 30 minutes and you gotta call before.

[Araceli Martinez]

I don't know my neighbors and they don't know me and I've lived there for years and I love it. It's great.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, it's a New York side effect too.

[Phil]

And down like the place that Sarah and I have down here, like we know some of our neighbors and stuff and it's a, you know, it's like a townhouse. So there's. We have neighbors and stuff. New Hampshire, I'm so far in the woods. People don't just come to my house.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

We know our name. I mean we. So our landlord who lives below us, we obviously we know her, we're. We're close with her. And then we have literally neighborhood cats that all have names that just hang out in the neighborhood. So we know they're the people that own them because they belong to a

[Phil]

family that own them.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

On the cats. Yes. You can own cats.

[Araceli Martinez]

Well, I mean they're like everywhere all the time.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, well, yeah, I guess in a way. But the cats are always outside so the like to think that's closer to it than. They don't run the house. They're always out hanging outside.

[Phil]

I'm sorry, what were you saying?

[Araceli Martinez]

Oh no, nothing. I was. About the cats.

[Phil]

Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm not a fan of cats. So.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

He's really not. I Try whenever we do a segment on PCC called Cute of the Day where I let viewers sending their pets cuz everybody likes to brag about their pets. I save the dogs for when lan. Because he gets offended when there's cats.

[Phil]

I don't. I mean, I, yeah, cats are offensive, so I'm comfortable with that. Today I presented the cue to the day because there was a black bear outside of my house in New Hampshire. And he's, he was, was very friendly. He didn't try to come in. He just wanted, just wanted the bird seed that one of my tenants put up. And you know, that's fine.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

AI is actually going to be the death of like the good bear videos. Like, have you ever seen that one where the bear goes in the store and steals the candy and leaves again. Nobody's going to believe that in, in the next couple years there's going to think it's fake.

[Phil]

I mean, people that have had experience with bears will believe that because bears are wily, crafty animals. We, we, when we were in Florida doing a record and this is like way back in 2008, we were, it was nighttime. Our bass player, who at the time was this short, little tiny girl, she's like five foot, she's out walking around in the driveway on the phone talking to someone back home. And we all wrapped up what we were doing inside and we hop in the hop and we're like, okay, time to go. We hop in the car. The guy giving us a ride back to the hotel backs out. And as soon as the car turns, there's this black bear maybe 20 yards from where Jeannie was walking around, just sitting there chowing on garbage. And we're like, yo, we call the producer. We're like, jason, what's up with this bear in your yard? He's like, oh, that's Frank. I'm like, oh, cool. So he's a friendly neighborhood bear apparently.

[Araceli Martinez]

But yeah, I have no survivor skills. I would want to pet the bear.

[Phil]

You don't?

[Araceli Martinez]

No, I know I don't. I've seen video, I've heard videos of what bears do to people.

[Phil]

Yeah, black bear actually would probably run from you like if the bear that was on our porch, like he didn't know, like they were being quiet and, and, and he wasn't aware of people because I think that I saw one of that, that bear with two other bears earlier in probably like last October, maybe September. My girlfriend and I had gone back up and I've lived in New Hampshire. I probably related the story a Couple times. But I've lived in New Hampshire since 2011. I've owned that house since 2013. And I had not seen a bear the entire time until last year here. And I'm sitting up in my. In my room and there's. I got French doors and look out the door and the window and there's these three bears. And it was a mama and two babies, but they weren't babies. They were like, you could. They were cubs, but they were her cubs because bears don't generally go in packs unless they're a mom and cubs. But they were not small bears at all. As soon as. As Sarah got up, I tried to grab my phone and I must have made. Made a little too much noise. And I'm trying to be quiet, but I'm trying to get over there to film. And mama bear heard, perked her head up and she turned around and hauled ass. And then the other two were like, all right, we're getting out of here, too. So Sarah missed them. I think she saw, like, fluffy butts running off into the.

[Araceli Martinez]

Oh, that's so cute. But yeah, this kind of stuff only happens in states that doesn't. Don't have, like, good gun laws where you can defend yourself. I saw that. I was like, California, New York. Should have guessed Illinois, too.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yep.

[Phil]

Because look, if. If the. If. If it's possible that someone's going to come to their door with a gun. Like, people don't mess around like that, you know, like dumb kids do. Young kids, like, yeah, you know, they'll play ding dong ditch or whatever. But like, this kind of stuff, you're not going to go and try and intimidate someone. If it's possible that your neighbor has gun. That's not happening in New Hampshire. Nobody in New Hampshire is going to do that. Nobody in West Virginia is going to do that. It's a terrible idea.

[Araceli Martinez]

Shot that I saw that shooting at in and out where it was Good guy with a gun takes out bad guy with a gun. Automatically knew it was not in California, even though it is in and out. I figured it was somewhere on the East Coast.

[Phil]

Yeah, it was in Idaho.

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Yeah, that was a dude.

[Araceli Martinez]

And I saw that.

[Tim Pool]

Leaving what? And now it's leaving California.

[Phil]

Really? Oh, yeah. They're going to Tennessee, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, everyone's going to Tennessee. They're going to Nashville.

[Araceli Martinez]

I don't really like in it out anymore. Their patties are so thin. It's not even.

[Phil]

Bro. I can't even handle what you're saying. I love it never really.

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah, there's, like, no beef in there. It's thinner than a piece of paper.

[Phil]

That's why you get the doubles.

[Araceli Martinez]

Okay, but I shouldn't have to get a double.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we got five guys out here,

[Phil]

so, you know, five guys is good, but they are different. I feel like they're different.

[Tim Pool]

So, yeah, they're different, but five guys is way better. I'm just sorry. Like, in and out. They. They have animal style. That's it. It's like, you can. You can get a plain burger or animal style thing.

[Araceli Martinez]

That's the beauty of it. You, like. You don't really have a choice place.

[Tim Pool]

That's not. That's dumb.

[Araceli Martinez]

I go to five guys time, like,

[Tim Pool]

and it's basically the same thing, but at least I can be like, I would like ketchup and mustard.

[Araceli Martinez]

Oh, that. They do have ketchup at in and out. They don't have mustard.

[Carter Banks]

They don't really have really long lines.

[Tim Pool]

Mayo or ranch?

[Araceli Martinez]

They do have really long lines.

[Carter Banks]

I feel like they're undeserved.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, they're good burgers. Don't get me wrong. They're great. But, like, if I was, like, gonna go to burger, and there was a five guys and in and out, I'm going to five guys every time.

[Araceli Martinez]

Well, in and out has, like, the fresh produce. You get, like, fresh onion, the fresh fries. Even the lettuce is fresher than what you're getting.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know, man. Five guys got Cajun fries cups.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

The what is in and out? The one that has the religious phrases they do.

[Tim Pool]

All right, well, that's kind of based. But when you go to five guys, you only need to order one small fry for your group of three.

[Phil]

Yeah, for everybody.

[Araceli Martinez]

Brown bag of fries.

[Tim Pool]

And they'll take a cup, and they'll dump, like, the. A whole bag of fries into the cup and drop the cup into the bag so the cup's worthless.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

There's the interview.

[Tim Pool]

Open the bag, and you're like, what do they give me the cup for?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's like the interview.

[Tim Pool]

Nope. Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Oh, there's like, the interview with the guy with, like, the CEO said, like, it's baked into the price, but the whole point is to overfill the. The cup is intentionally small to make you feel like you're getting more than you paid for.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I eat, like, 13 fries with my burger, and then I'm just left with a bag of fries.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And they're like, who wants these? And nobody wants them. I mean, delicious, though. The Cajun fries are the best.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I used to eat them all the time. Now, like, that much. That many carbs at a time for me is like my brain goes.

[Tim Pool]

Makes you sick.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah. Not sick, but I'm just like, okay, that's a bit sleepy.

[Araceli Martinez]

I can't eat them that many cars. But I want.

[Tim Pool]

Do we talk about how Zembic's making people go blind?

[Phil]

I mean, it's an old story, but

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna bring it up anyway.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Not a new story.

[Araceli Martinez]

Well, at least now we're gonna know who's on Ozempic.

[Tim Pool]

This is from Reuters. Lawsuits claiming ozempic and other GLP1s led to blindness become second mass litigation over the drugs. There's like, a bunch, apparently. This is from Rutgers scientists Blaine Ozempic blindness. Mary would marry vision loss.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Mary would want to point out that our first Ozempic video is back in, like, 2021. So we've been covering Oz horrific side effects since pretty much the beginning.

[Tim Pool]

You know, the worst thing about Ozempic is the commercial.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's the creepiest thing in the entire world.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, oh, oh. Ozempic1.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

There's a couple of them, like, so I don't really see a lot of commercials because I mostly watch stuff on streaming that doesn't have commercials. Every once in a while, I'll watch Tubi. And there are Ozempic commercials on there that are scary as hell.

[Tim Pool]

You know, this kind of feels like. It kind of feels like a monkey's paw thing where, like, a fat woman gets the paw and then she's like, I wish I was thin. And then she goes blind.

[Carter Banks]

Right?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And depressed.

[Tim Pool]

Skinny and what?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And depressed.

[Tim Pool]

Because I heard. I heard this. I don't. Is this true that people would eat food on Ozempic, but their stomachs wouldn't digest the food and. And they would get really bad cramps because it would just sit in there, stomach undigested for extended periods, and then they would start vomiting up, like, rotted food.

[Brett Dasic]

It.

[Araceli Martinez]

I think it caused stomach paralysis.

[Brett Dasic]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's what it is.

[Araceli Martinez]

Ozempica stomach paralysis.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Look up the Sam Altman clip about him, like, overdosing on GLP1s.

[Brett Dasic]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Pool]

That is a side effect of Ozempic. Holy crap. Stomach paralysis.

[Araceli Martinez]

Long term. One of the long term effects is also, like, thyroid cancer.

[Tim Pool]

I mean.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, you're messing with your.

[Tim Pool]

Could you imagine, like, going like these women who are all about body positivity. They were like, you could be healthy at every size, and I'm beautiful. And the doctor goes Well, I have a drug that could potentially blind you, make you vomit up rotting food because your stomach can't digest it.

[Brett Dasic]

It.

[Tim Pool]

But you will get skinny. I'll take it.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Y.

[Araceli Martinez]

Well, that's why the body activism away. Yeah, they did.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, they're willing to go blind to lose weight. That's how much. That's how much they were lying.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And it's not.

[Araceli Martinez]

And all the ones that said it's not because I eat too much, that I'm fat, it's because of hormonal problems. Started taking OIC and now they're skinny. So it was because you ate too.

[Tim Pool]

Doesn't it just make you like, barf?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

No, no, it just stops your desire. You just don't want to eat.

[Brett Dasic]

Eat.

[Tim Pool]

Right, but you could just choose not to eat.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

That's the hard part, Tim. That's the hard part. And so is the exercise. The hard part is to want to eat but not choose to eat. And the other hard part is people

[Tim Pool]

like guinea pigs, like, do they have no functioning prefrontal cortex to where they're like, I just have to eat. And it's like, you could not. You could just not eat. Eat.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

They also don't want to do the. They also don't want to do any exercise that helps you.

[Tim Pool]

But I get it. Like, if you'd like to lose weight, just stop eating. Like, if the point of Ozempic is it makes you not want to eat, so you're going to be malnourished anyway. It's don't.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's called food noise. That's what. That's the term food noise. Where it's like, okay, you. You went through your regular day, you ate dinner, but afterwards, okay, these people can't vote. You need still want something to eat.

[Tim Pool]

If you've ever taken Ozempic for weight loss, you can't vote anymore.

[Araceli Martinez]

Well, perfect, because it slows down your digestive system. So you basically, you what you. It would take like an entire probably day for to digest what would normally take a few hours.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I was telling hungry. I was telling Phil before the show today that we got like comments on videos asking, like, if I was on Ozempic. I'm like, bro, sometimes if I get. If we're getting home late and it's like after 9pm I will have my wife drop me off a mile from home to get in the cardio that I need before the end of the day. It just. You have to commit to.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, man. I've seen you pacing around the studio before the show and Getting your steps.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah. Like, it's just. It's literally just don't eat like a slob all the time. Calories in, calories out. Don't drink your calories.

[Phil]

Yeah, don't drink your calories. That's a big one. If you. If you. For a little. Not really a cheat, but a little bit of information for people that are looking to do some cardio. If you're in the gym and you do a tr. If you take a treadmill, get above 12 degrees over 3 miles an hour, it's the same calorie burn that a stair stepper does. And it's not as miserable as the stair stepper because the stair stepper, it's miserable. I. I mean, I. It works, and I love the fact that it works so well, but it's

[Carter Banks]

trick is got to bring a fan with you. Like a personal fan, really.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Ones that you can wear.

[Araceli Martinez]

I like being miserable on the. On the. It's a good feeling.

[Phil]

I just bring my phone and watch Netflix shows that. That if you have something that you're. If you have a show that you're interested in, that does help kill the hour.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Listen to, like, podcasts, generally.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Yep.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

But even, like, with cardio and stuff

[Phil]

like that, I've been watching Homeland.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Phil]

On cardi. Doing cardio. Sometimes I do podcasts. I prefer not to do podcasts on. For cardio because I. They're not like, you get, like, it's a buzzkill.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Damien Lewis and.

[Phil]

Wow.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

What you said Homeland, the show.

[Phil]

Claire Danes.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Excellent choice.

[Phil]

Yeah, it's pretty good. I was pretty happy when they. When. Spoiler alert for everybody out there. I was pretty happy when they finally killed off Brody. I. I was not a fan of the character at all.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I mean, I like the early seasons more than the. The later seasons of that show.

[Phil]

I think I'm only on season, like, they just killed Brody like, a couple episodes ago. So it's new.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Three or four, then.

[Phil]

Probably four. Yeah. But. But if I have a series that I'm interested in watching, it's easier to do cardio because you kind of get lost in that you're not thinking about doing the cardio. If you're listening to a podcast and it's bad, my mind tends to wander or whatever, you know, and then it's just background noise, which is pointless.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And all of that is better than taking Ozempic.

[Phil]

It is much better than taking Ozempic.

[Araceli Martinez]

It's a lot easier. You really just don't eat. Like, that's all Sempic does.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Araceli Martinez]

Best way to burn fatty. Just another calorie duck.

[Phil]

The most common side effects with those, like nausea happens to like 50% of the people. Vomiting is like 20 to 30, diarrhea is 20 to 30, constipation 20 to 25. Stomach pain. That stuff does chill out after a while.

[Araceli Martinez]

But like, do you, have you taken it?

[Phil]

No, no. God.

[Araceli Martinez]

Look, I was just wondering.

[Phil]

I was, I'm going by, I'm going by what AI is telling us.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Look up the stuff about OIC personality. It's literally destroying people, people's desire to be productive in life. Because the part of your brain that feels like, it's okay, I don't need to eat, also means it's okay, I don't need to do anything else.

[Carter Banks]

Didn't they have no desire before and that's why they got on Ozempic?

[Araceli Martinez]

This is.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

No, they do have a desire to eat. They just can't. And they can't stop themselves from.

[Phil]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, cookies are good, man. Cookies are good. But was it. Where was I going? Oh, yeah. So like it. They chill out after a while. But it's got like a.50 of people stop using it within the first year. You can get pancreatitis, gastropareasis, Ozempic phase, which is just, you know, you look saggy and old. You, Muscle loss is a big deal, right? Like, so you have to, you have to increase your protein intake. And it's good to go to the gym because that helps you retain muscle. And as you get older, like, retaining muscle becomes more and more important because your muscles do deteriorate. If you go to the gym regularly and lift weights, like do actual weightlifting, that especially as you get older, it's a really important thing for just overall health. And then you can get thyroid tumors. And then there's some people that experience suicidal ideations.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

They're like, that's great, but I'm gonna be thin. Right.

[Araceli Martinez]

All you have to do is naughty, but that's a lot easier to take a shot.

[Phil]

I've been thinking about killing myself because I'm overweight. I think I'm going to take Ozempic. So that way I think I might kill. Think about killing myself because of the drug as opposed to being overweight.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Well, I'm thin though, so that'll be.

[Araceli Martinez]

You'll die skin again.

[Tim Pool]

Like now you understand the motivation of Democrats.

[James Talarico (clip)]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like when there are people who are morbidly obese, shopping at Torrid, who are going to tell you to your face that you can Be healthy at every size, and fat is beautiful. And then when a doctor says, here's a drug that might make you go blind and paralyze your stomach, but it'll make you skinny, and they grab it and jam it in their leg, first thing, what do you think a politician is going to say? You can have the hard mode. Republicans saying, listen, you need to just be responsible, have willpower, work hard. And the Democrats gonna be like, nah, take the drug. We'll make it easy for you, and we'll steal his money to give to you. Why wouldn't they?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, it's depressing.

[Araceli Martinez]

I mean, it's a great drug to you.

[Tim Pool]

Sales is sales, bro. Could you imagine? I want. I want to present it like this. The problem the Republicans have, I go to someone like Phil. He's walking down the street, and I say, phil, I would like to sell you my product. My product is I can make your life better. Here's how. You got to work real hard. You got to stop buying things that you love and save up delayed gratification. Don't eat that cheeseburger today. It'll make you miserable. What, what am I then? Liberal? Then. Then another guy comes up and says, I'm going to sell you a product. It's gonna make your life better. What is it? If you buy it from me instantly, I'm gonna make you thin and beautiful. I'm gonna increase the amount of money you make, and I'm gonna hurt the people you don't like. I'll sign me up. I'll take two.

[Phil]

Yeah. Heard the people.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I definitely like to hurt the people.

[Tim Pool]

Imagine going to someone to sell a product and say, imagine this, Brett, I'm gonna sell you this hammer. Truth be told, it's not all that good. It's actually fairly weak. Probably in a few strikes, it's gonna break. So you've gotta be very careful and very responsible with it. Then another guy comes up and says, sure, I got a hammer. It's indestructible. It's. It's stronger than Adamantium. Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's real Steve Rogers.

[Tim Pool]

And it's also twice as expensive. People are always going to go for the guy who's got a better. Who's selling a better product, even if he's lying. So long as it sounds better. That's just it.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You try to be honest with people, and they're going to be like, I don't want that. I want easy.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And it's the. The worst part about that is, like, when you take the. The medication Shortcut is, then it doesn't stick because you haven't built up the discipline to.

[Phil]

It's the same thing for voting too. Like when you take the. If someone says, oh, I'm going to give you all this stuff, you know, you're, you're giving over the responsibility for yourself to someone else. Like anything the government gives has got strings attached.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I mean, that was how I felt when Elon Musk talked about like, we're going, we're going to. Eventually we're not going to need money and the government's just going to provide everybody money. I'm like, that sounds horrible to me.

[Tim Pool]

Provide everybody money.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's like that's universal high income. I'm like that. No, just. No.

[Phil]

I mean I'm, I don't know how the, I don't know what is going to be the situation in the future when it comes to how societies or how society organizes itself when it comes to the, the like involvement of like robotics. Right. When you have humanoid robots that are capable of doing everything a human being has or is capable of doing, and honestly that is, it's not that far off. It's not decades away on the, on the long end, I think it's probably five years before those things are very common. It's possible that it's as short as three. They just figured this, this one company just came, just debuted a hand that they've designed and that was really kind of the, the style the, the big hump they had to get over is making the hands work because they have to be waterproof roof. They have to be able to, to function and have like human hand has 27 degrees of, of mobility and this robot has like 25. So it's almost the same thing as a human hand. And once they actually have a robot that's as capable as the human being, then you're going to see, start seeing a lot of adoption at least in businesses because you can get this thing for $30,000. That's less than your. Even if it's $50,000, it's less than you're going to pay someone that doesn't take days off. It works 20 hours a day. You know, you get, if it breaks down, you get, you send it back to the shop and you get a

[Araceli Martinez]

new one and it's workers rights comp.

[Phil]

Yeah. No loss, no health insurance, no, no payroll taxes, no nothing. So there's gonna be all these, all these robots that are gonna replace a lot of workers. How do you provide for society, for people in society that don't do the jobs that are necessary to be, you know, that have to be done anymore. When you've got companies that are basically making money hand over fist, right. They, they have, their costs go to, you know, a tenth of what their costs were before. Because you're talking about again, Robot cost you 50 grand. It's got a five year life. $50,000 for one person, that means $10,000 a year for, for one, you know, unit that does the work of two people. So you're going from, you know, 160 grand or 150 grand a year for some kind of, you know, technical job, not talking about stuff that's like white collar jobs, because AI agents are going to do all that. But like, you're talking about physical work in the real world, you're going down to 70, you know, you're going from $150,000 down to $10,000 a year. I mean the, the cost savings, the productivity in theory can go through the roof. So how do you make things? And the people that don't you tell

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

you have Elon Musk say to the people who want the AI Universal basic income, don't worry, we're going to create robots that also sit around and do sh. So you're not gonna be able to do that either. You're gonna have to find something to do.

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah, I mean we already have that. The agents make a bunch of AI slob.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

That is true. Every, I feel like the worst thing is like Instagram now every like concert banner is just AI garbage.

[Brett Dasic]

Oh yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Nobody makes a good concert banner.

[Tim Pool]

It's because what you need to do. Guys, here's some advice. When you tell Chat GPT to make your flyer, tell it to remove textures. What makes these, these banners all look the same and weird is that they have a. Lay a texture layer over them. This is like a graphic design, like 101 error. Like you go into your graphic like Illustrator or whatever or Photoshop and you're like putting some stupid texture on your, on your. It makes it look bad.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And for whatever reason, ChatGPT just does it on every single image it makes.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And it's the same font that they use. Like they use the same three or four fonts for most of it. And it's, it's all kind of in the same realm. Like it's, it's good if you want upscale images and you want to add some, you know, some elements to like an individual picture or something like that. But it's not good for whole creative design.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, let's talk about aliens. We got this from Time magazine. America is finally taking extraterrestrials seriously. Really? What kind of files? Was 3 years ago at a screening for his film the Age of Disclosure, for a group including five members of Congress. So this is big story. Story that Ukrainian scientists saw 20 UFOs on the moon and have now begun warning. There's a moon base. And there is. It's all true. Everyone knows it's true. Thank you for watching. And Disclosure Day.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, nobody went and saw that movie anyways.

[Tim Pool]

That movie sucked.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I'm gonna.

[Tim Pool]

I've seen a lot of bad movies in my days, but that was a bad movie.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

What was so bad about it?

[Tim Pool]

You know what would be better than Disclosure Day? Like a more robust story. I want you to imagine two and a half hours of this. A guy walks out of his front door, looks around at his grass. About five minutes of him looking left and right. Then he gets in his car and leaves, but you don't follow him. The camera stays on the grass for about 30 minutes. You hear the car come back, and the guy gets out, and he's got some spray fertilizer he attaches to his hose, and he sprays his lawn down for the next 15, 20 minutes. Then he goes inside, and there's another hour of the camera pointed at the grass. That has more story than disclosure.

[Brett Dasic]

They did.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Maybe Steven Spielberg just fell asleep while he was making it.

[Tim Pool]

And what happened was Spielberg said, hey, look, everyone's talking about aliens. Let's do a movie where all of the news confirms aliens exist. And they're like, okay, that'll be epic. What's the story?

[Carter Banks]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Do you have a script? No. So what do we do? People do nothing for two hours, and then we have a news report that aliens are real. I'm like, okay.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

The media propaganda arm on that movie was crazy. Where they're like, this movie is gonna change the way you feel about.

[Tim Pool]

That was the point. It was a money grab.

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because the story for Disclosure Day is that. What's it? Emily Blunt. Is that her name?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

She's driving around for no reason, and then she just looks at people, and then she tells them things.

[Brett Dasic]

Things.

[Tim Pool]

So she, like, gets pulled over, and then she looks at the cop and she's like, tell David it's gonna be okay. And he's like, what? And then she's like, I have to go now. Then she drives off, and I'm like, okay, I don't care. And then finally, like, at the end, for Literally no reason. Out of nowhere, she's like, we. We're gonna go and tell everyone aliens are real. And then, like, an alien shows up. They, like. They, like, wheel in an alien. And he gets up and goes. And they're like, that's the movie. There's no story. There's literally no story.

[Phil]

That's all, folks.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Brett Dasic]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

So there's a bad guy, right?

[Araceli Martinez]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Played by. What's his name? Colin Firth. Is that his name?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, I didn't see it.

[Tim Pool]

Not Colin Firth, Colin Farrell?

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I have no idea.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no. Firth, Right.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Colin Firth is an actor.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. He's the old guy. Old British guy, right? Yeah, yeah, Colin Firth. And for no reason. And you don't know why, he's, like, chasing people, and then he's got a. He's got a cylinder. And then they're like, if the movie starts. I. I honestly thought when the movie started, I. I started in the middle of the movie. Like, I made a mistake. Mistake. Because I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. And I tried going back, and I'm like, what? Because it's not like a flashback or anything. The movie just starts for no. Like, it makes no sense. And then a guy's, like, holding a cylinder, and he's like, don't squeeze it. And I'm like, why? They never tell you. They just don't tell you anything. And then, like, a guy squeeze it and disappears. And you're like, huh. Well, I wonder if that mattered. It didn't squeeze it real. And then she squeezes it, and it disintegrates.

[Carter Banks]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

And then when she squeezes it, no one can see her.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Like, what Would it have not. Would it have not disintegrated if it had been somebody else that was specific to her?

[Tim Pool]

So I guess, like, when the. When Colin Firth grabs it, he can go into your mind for some reason, they don't explain it. Then when this other guy, he. He, like, drops, like. And he drops it, and the guy picks it up, he disappears, and then it, like, reappears, and you're like, okay, I guess.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

How long was it?

[Tim Pool]

I think it was, like, two and a half hours. I'm like, ridiculous amount. And then when Emily Blunt grabs it and holds it.

[Brett Dasic]

Holds it.

[Tim Pool]

She be. Everyone becomes invisible. And you're like, but why? And then as she's holding it, it's just disintegrating. And then she drops it and disintegrates. And you're like, yeah, again, but why? What is. There's no story. Literally, the Story is Colin Firth is chasing her, and you don't know why, and you never find out. And then there's a guy who worked. Colin Firth is a Men in Black, basically. And he's like, people can't know about aliens. So he chases her around, and there's a guy, and he. And she's like, I have to go find him. Why? I don't know. I have to. And then they do. And then the guy is like, I'm gonna talk when aliens are real. And then it's two hours of literally nothing happening. And then they go to a news station and he says, aliens are real. And then an alien shows up and

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

goes, nobody would believe it these days anyways. Everybody think it's like some type of

[Tim Pool]

stunt that's actually in the movie when they're playing footage of aliens, the network, like that is taking ingesting from the local station. Goes, is this AI?

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah. That would be my first real.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

The real winner this year is going to be the end of Oak street with the. With the dinosaurs in the suburbs.

[Phil]

You think so? Well, that's not.

[Tim Pool]

It's at. Their neighbor gets transported back in time.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I know. I can't wait. Next week. It's gonna be amazing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that'll be way better than Disclosure Day. Spider man was the best movie Marvel ever made, to be honest.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Ever.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Like MCU or all Marvel movies.

[Tim Pool]

All Marvel movies. Are you serious? First of all, all the Marvel movies before the MCU were not good.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Good.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Well, I'm seeing a lot of people would put Sam Raimi, Spider Man 1 and 2 ahead of it.

[Tim Pool]

Ah, no, certainly Sam Raimi, Spider Man 1 and 2 are good for. For Spider man movies. I like Spider Man 2 better than the one, but they're both pretty good. But Brand New Day is above.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Did you take issue.

[Tim Pool]

That's why it's the number one movie opening of all time.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

$1 billion in three days.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Did you take issue with the. With the way they treated the villain, that there weren't enough consequences? I don't want to spoil it for. I know. We're like a week.

[Araceli Martinez]

I haven't watched it yet.

[Tim Pool]

Spoiler territory, guys. If you haven't seen the movie now, like, I'm sorry. Like, we're in spoiler territory. The movie's been out for what, a week?

[Araceli Martinez]

I couldn't get any tickets. It's completely sold out still.

[Phil]

Really?

[Araceli Martinez]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's gonna hit 2 billion this weekend.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, okay, okay. So we're not gonna spoil. I spoiled a little bit already. I did a review of it. They made one big mistake. Spoiler. I have to say it. Spoiler warning. Spoiler warning. I'm gonna give you a few more seconds before I issue a spoiler warning, okay? Before the movie came out, everybody was saying in the trailer, you can see that Punisher is looking at everybody, you know, frozen. And people started asking, how come? How come Punisher is not getting mind controlled? And correctly, everybody pointed out that Punisher can't be mind controlled. Spoiler warning. Mind control, Punisher. That ruins it. No, I'm sorry. That's just wrong.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It was.

[Brett Dasic]

It was.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Did you feel like there should have been more consequences for the villain?

[Araceli Martinez]

No,

[Tim Pool]

I thought it was fantastic. I thought it was fantastic. I give it a 10 out of 10. The only critique I have is that you can't mind control the Punisher. Like, that's what makes the Punisher the Punisher is that, like, if you go to any random guy and kill his kid, he's going to get revenge. It's going to be brutal. The Punisher is the Punisher because his mind is substantially more focused on this than the regular person, basically.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I know if you're supposed to keep him, if he's technically supposed to be the same canon as the Netflix version of his character, he literally, like, wills himself back to life.

[Tim Pool]

And not only that, but they say in Netflix that he's got brain damage.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That after getting shot in the head, he has a singular focus. He's remorseless.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I mean, that's like. If you're getting nitpicky with. The question is like, they're like, why did nobody try to arrest him at the hospital when he's a fugitive?

[Tim Pool]

Well, to be fair, that's a. That's a. That's a half point, because with. With the Netflix series, Kingpin's vigilante thing was so poorly received. With the Daredevil, one could. Deus ex machina. The people have backed off from the vigilante enforcement because of how bad. Like, there's a. There's a backlash, basically.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

But he was still. But in.

[Tim Pool]

He was still a murderer. He still killed cops in one.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

In one last kill. He was still a fugitive. So technically, they should have. Yeah, it's. But that stuff doesn't bother me.

[Tim Pool]

It's true. But I cut him slack on, like, the. I can suspend my disbelief for the. The Kingpin was exposed as a criminal, was exiled from the city. His vigilante enforcement, his task force was viewed as corrupt and criminal. And so everybody's kind of like, we don't want to be the one to start kicking this back up, you know what I mean? So you cut him some slack with. He kind of gets away with it. You could also argue that they backed off because it was Spider man and Punisher. Yeah, but Punisher is not like Spider Man. He murders people.

[Brett Dasic]

No.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Well, it's like, oh, yeah, and this, when he talks like this and he just swear. Like, his point is to swear in the PG13 movie. That's, that's his job. And the point is, is like the way Gene. The hell with it. Again, spoiler alert. It's, I mean, I, I started using the name again. I, I, I, I let the spoilers out for the first three or four. Jean Gray. I was like, the reason why people. I think it's interesting that a lot of people don't have issues with the way that her character was handled at the end. Consequences wise. A lot of people believe that she should have been arrested or at the very least she should have turned herself in as a form of trying to make good on start righting the wrongs that she's done. And then at that point you get, maybe you have Professor X come a better way to help you atone for your sins, whatever. But the point is, a movie is a movie is more important than one nitpick. Because a lot of people didn't even think about that till after the fact

[Tim Pool]

he killed the guy.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, he jumped in front of.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

They're trying to like, claim that that's not what happened. They're, they're using the Nobody. If you don't see the body, there's no death rule.

[Tim Pool]

And he jump into the street.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, yeah, but, but they're saying, like, you don't see his body hit the ground.

[Tim Pool]

And then she, when she tricks, she mind controls and they and tricks.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

A lot of people think that's, that's worse.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And he was like, what you, he says to her, what you've done is unforgivable.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's psychopathic.

[Tim Pool]

And then she jumps off the building.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. She's insane. But the point here's, here's what I want to see. There's only one thing I ever wanted to see. Only one thing I ever wanted to see. When, when Punisher is like, I'm going to go and confront Gene and then you go confront Hulk. That, that was like one of the best scenes ever. Punisher fighting Hulk was just absolutely hilarious. I was so excited. I was like, oh, man, we all, they're going to do it. Aren't they? Jean Gray is going to enter Punishers, punish a Punisher's mind and regret. Regret it. And she didn't. Nothing happened.

[Brett Dasic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What's supposed to happen is when Jean Grey tries mind controlling Punisher. So for those. I mean, we're in spoiler territory. So for those that have seen it, for those that haven't, you already, you are. I already warned you. But when she first tries going into Spider Man's mind, she briefly sees him with Aunt May before getting pushed out of his mind. Because spider sense is a psychic defense. It's in the comics. This is. This is a thing. Spider sense constantly alerts Peter to threats and danger, which makes it almost impossible to mind control him because his mind keeps like shocking him out of it. Punisher is. Is immune to mind control. Not completely, because he has gone insane over the loss of his family in a way that no regular human in existence would. That's what makes him a comic book character. So what should have happened is when she jumped into his mind to mind control him, she should have saw. Saw him standing there covered in blood, holding his dead child, killed, screaming. Just John Bernthal style.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

He does.

[Tim Pool]

And as he's holding her and screaming, you get a flash of every murder he committed. Throats being slit, people being shot in the head. And then Jean Grey gets. Jumps out of his mind and just shrieks the top of her lungs and falls to her knees staring at her hands.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Like, tonally. They wouldn't have allowed it in a spider because PG13.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but they could have. They could have still that they, they had. They could have at least had her go into his mind and then you could have heard screams and him crying and then seen flashes of his kid and him holding her. They could have. And then had her pushed out. And then she should have started crying and freaking out. You can't go into Punisher's mind. He's killed hundreds, if not thousands of people. And she was, she. She goes, wow, this guy's messed up.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I'm like, oh, come on.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's like, don't you remember that part from season one where he just rams. The guy rams his head in the glass over and over again.

[Tim Pool]

I still, I still love that it was a Spider Man Punisher buddy cop movie. Yeah. It's so good. Bernthal was so amazing.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

If we're going with nitpicks, I want to know how a guy who lives on a boat with like, no, like, he's not really part of the general public who's doing his Fade, like, every two weeks. That's. He's got, like, the. He's got, like, the. The Jersey Shore flat top with a fade. He looks like the dude from Jersey Shore. Somebody's. Somebody's cutting his hair. He's not doing that himself. That's Spider man, high and tight.

[Tim Pool]

Spider Man, Punisher fighting Hulk. It was. It was the most Marvel. Marvel's ever made a Marvel movie. Right? Like, the MCU was so derivative. Tony Stark. It was. It was great that they finally had a movie that was Spider man with Marvel characters doing Spider Man. Stuff like Punisher and Spider man interact quite a bit in the comics, and so I thought that was absolutely fantastic. I love the opening scene, like, when Punisher comes in and he's like, you're gonna get someone. You're gonna get an innocent person hurt. He's like, and who do you think thinks in front of that truck? Like, it was fantastic. And then, Ah, so good.

[Brett Dasic]

The.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

The point is, is, like, the. The way the movie makes you feel proves that when a movie's done really, really well, the nitpicks don't bother you as much. Like I said, a lot of people didn't really even clock the problem with Jean Gray until after the movie, because it doesn't matter. You left the movie in a good mood, so it doesn't matter if there's stuff in there that doesn't necessarily work for you.

[Brett Dasic]

I don't. I don't. I don't.

[Tim Pool]

I don't really see a problem with Jean Grey Gray.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I'm saying a lot of people had issue with, like, the lack of consequences for her character.

[Tim Pool]

I, I.

[Araceli Martinez]

What are you gonna do?

[Tim Pool]

I was like, there. There it was. It was. There wasn't really a villain in the story. I mean, she is.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I mean, technically, the damage control, like, they didn't try hard enough to make the damage control guy evil enough to. To do that. He was supposed to be the. The villain.

[Tim Pool]

But the worst thing, it was the hand.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because the hand was already in the Netflix series. And derivative of the Disney series. Introducing the hand in Spider man made no sense.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

And derivative of the Foot Clan in Teenage Mutant Ninja.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's the other way around, actually. The Foot Clan is making fun of them, which I actually have behind me. The original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the original Deadpool. We're gonna go to your rumble rants and super chats to see what you all have to say. So get those chats in right now before the uncensored portion of the show, of course, and let's let's. Let's talk about stuff. What does it say? Quiet said. I do agree with Tim. People go into Frank's head, can't handle it. He is legit crazy. This is. This is known in the comics, that Punisher. There's a few. There's a couple different ways that it's interpreted. One of the. One of the best is that when the, like, the telepath gives him a psychic command, he just looks at him and pulls out his gun and shoots him. And they're like, but how? And he's like, only one thing matters to me.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You can't mind control someone who doesn't care about anything other than revenge. His family is gone. They're never coming back. So criminals must die.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

But they've. Like, the way they've handled his character in the Netflix series and beyond is almost the opposite of that. It's constantly about his trauma and his. In his mental deterioration. He did that in one. In one last kill where he's. He's taking the meds. He's like. He's hallucinating. He's going through all that stuff.

[Brett Dasic]

The.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

The idea of what you're saying is actually really, really good, but it would just tonally would have to be in his own show. It would have. It would actually be really interesting to see him in a show that's largely ground level. And then there's also introduced a telepath who literally cannot. Can.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, look, they don't. They don't have to have Jean Grey going to his mind and seeing murders, like, rated R style or whatever. They could have had her jump into his mind. And then him, he just gets really angry. And then he's like, it ain't gonna work, kid.

[Phil]

There's only one thing I can't.

[Tim Pool]

He pulls out like, a grenade launcher and boom, in the chest, and she flies back.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

They couldn't help the. They had to do the humor with Frank there.

[Tim Pool]

That just didn't work.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

I was so excited for that scene, I was getting ready for it. I'm like, she's gonna regret this.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

I mean, it's. It's also. It's like, look, if you watch the original season two of Daredevil, when he's at his family's grave and he's explaining coming home from war, that's. It's a totally different thing. It's like that is actual cinema in a different sense. Right? That's one of those first early examples of people being like, okay, comic book characters can be more than just Batman. And more than just Superman, there are other layered stories to tell that are more akin to just great dramatic storytelling.

[Tim Pool]

I do. I am happy he's in the movie. I will say I like Punisher and Daredevil better. That was like he's shooting the cops, just killing them cold. And then Daredevil's knocking him out and trying to stop Frank shooting. Yeah. It's so good. I love Frank.

[Araceli Martinez]

What are you doing?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, right.

[Phil]

What do you think? What do you think?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man, Dude, I think John Barnthal nailed it though. He's. He's. Tom Jane was a great Punisher for

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

sure, but John Stevenson is the underrate Punisher war zone.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

If you like, if you want to see the gory Punisher, you watch Punisher war zone.

[Tim Pool]

Zone, dude. Punisher is amazing. All right, let's grab some more of these. We got Think for life. Now's a key moment to get after Abdul in Michigan with while the publicity is fresh. Key point nobody's mentioning is he compares Sharia law to the Trail of Tears. Indians endured but were compensated. H. He's very Obama esque. He's got charisma, man. But I don't think he can win. I don't think so. I think he's going to lose. All right, Bry Gambit says. Wait, if this EO says and to end birthright citizenship to people associated with foreign terror organization, would that apply to antifa? Was that label a foreign terrorist organization? They. They didn't label. Did they label Antifa foreign? They didn't. Right.

[Carter Banks]

Not foreign.

[Tim Pool]

It was domestic.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Which is just a brand because it has no legal weight, Right? Yep. Disgruntled says. According to liberal logic, the foreigners are subject to the laws of the United States. Does that mean the second amendment applies to the Chinese and British citizens too? I don't know.

[Phil]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Did you, did you read the latest assessment, Phil, on the NFA ruling?

[Phil]

Which one? Yes, I mean, I read through it.

[Tim Pool]

It's about suppressors, right?

[Phil]

No, no, no. It's. It's SBRs, SBS, any other weapon and suppressor. So it's the large. It's a majority of the stuff that the NFA covers. It doesn't actually do anything about destructive devices or machine guns. So destructive devices, you can own hand grenade in the US you still have to have its tax stamp board and has to be registered and stuff. And if you blow it up, there has to be an ATF agent present.

[Tim Pool]

But, but are you, are you legally allowed to use it in a defensive Context, Good luck.

[Phil]

But I mean like you have to have an ATF agent there, so order one.

[Araceli Martinez]

Like, do you like schedule it? I'm going to.

[Tim Pool]

Well it's usually for, for like demonstrations, movies, entertainment.

[Araceli Martinez]

Okay, that's.

[Tim Pool]

Then you call the ATF and say, hey, we're going to do a demonstration with a grenade. Then they come out.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Phil]

So you wouldn't be able to use that for self defense.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

What if there was an ATF agent with you when you were, when you needed to use it?

[Phil]

I mean, look, you're probably, it's not a good idea to use an M87 for self defense. There's no controlling where the shrapnel flies. But right now what we're waiting on is we're waiting to find out if the DOJ is going to take the finding and they're going to appeal it. And if they appeal it, I believe it's going to the fifth Circuit, which is famously pro gun gun. So if the DOJ doesn't actually do anything by the 12th, which is next Wednesday I believe, then the ruling stands. And so anyone that's covered under the, under the lawsuit, so that's Gun Owners of America members, Silencer Co members, Silencer Shop members, And there was 12 states that signed on. I don't know the details. You can find this stuff on goa's website, Gun Owners of America's website. If it doesn't, if it doesn't get appealed by the 12th, then it becomes law for the, for the plaintiffs. And if it does get appealed, you're still going to a very two way friendly court. So the Trump administration DOJ might say, you know what, we're not even going to fight this because we can, we have, we don't have a great chance at what's it called. We don't feel particularly strongly about it because we think that these should be, you know, these, these, the NFA in and of itself is an infringement. So we're not going to, I haven't seen Harmony Dhillon say anything about it, make any kind of remarks about it or release a statement. So as of right now, we're waiting for an appeal from the Trump DOJ or we're waiting for the 12th for it to be to take effect because they put a stay.

[Tim Pool]

Astro Fox says there's a mini series in Canada and the UK markets called Back in Time for dinner. They have a family live in each decade for a week. Almost exactly your idea, Tim. Everything from food, food, entertainment, social rules, etc. Etc. My original idea was to build A, you get a building with five units, each is a two bedroom and you have 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s and 50s. 50s, what is it, 90s, 80s, 70 s, 60s, 50s and I guess 2000s. But you could probably just do the four decades. And then it's just a hotel. It's like you crash there for a few days, you rent it out. I think it's a million dollar business. I think you could probably charge like a thousand bucks and night and it'd be sold out indefinitely.

[Phil]

It'd be fun.

[Tim Pool]

It'd be a wait list like crazy. And you'd like, you'd have a fridge and we would stock it with actual products from the era, like limited. You'd have water and soda, whatever you can find. Well, we could get special order stuff, right, Surge.

[Phil]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And then on the fridge we'd have like Pizza Hut and like local restaurants. And when you order the delivery guy's action, like it's actually, it's our guy, it's room service, but he's dressed like the actual pizza. And they come and they bring you the soda. The TV will be, will be through a raspberry PI of sorts. It'll. It'll have actual knobs like the old VHF UHF TVs for the 80s. And we'll program 24, 48 hours of content from that. We'll pick a day, we'll go through the TV Guide and we'll load it up. So when you turn the TV on, it will be playing TV as if the TV is analog. The news will be on. And then we could even do like Historic Days, you know, the fall of the Berlin Wall or something.

[Araceli Martinez]

You would charge like $3,000 a night for that probably.

[Tim Pool]

And I bet it would be sold out every single night. Christmas, wait listed.

[Phil]

Christmas week would be great. You'd have Christmas and the fall of the Soviet Union on the 26th.

[Tim Pool]

Bro, I'm telling you, it would be like $10,000 for Christmas, for, for the day before Christmas Eve, Christmas Eve, Christmas. And the day after Christmas, it would be like 8 grand. 10 grand. 10 grand. 8 grand grand. Because being able to have a 1990s, you know what we do for the windows? The windows are TVs, so when you pull the blinds up, it's a screen showing a 90s neighborhood. And like, you'll see like when the food's coming, the car will drive up in the driveway and you can look at, you're looking out the window, look at your bike.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

You look again, it's still there. It hasn't been stolen.

[Stephen Miller (clip)]

Yep.

[Araceli Martinez]

Oh my. That. That's a real thing.

[Brett Dasic]

Y.

[Phil]

Could be.

[Tim Pool]

You can turn on the news and watch like old 90, 91.

[Phil]

CNN, then 91.

[Carter Banks]

A girl

[Tim Pool]

like, you can put on whatever you want. Invasion of Xbox, you turn it on at like 5:30. Fox 32, the Simpsons comes on.

[Carter Banks]

Put VHS tapes in there.

[Brett Dasic]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

There. There will be. There will be a rack of VHS tapes.

[Phil]

Transformers on Saturday morning.

[Brett Dasic]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You go to the 70s, you get like eight tracks or whatever.

[Phil]

Pong 70s cocaine everywhere inside.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we wouldn't do that.

[Phil]

LSD.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the thing though. I'm pretty sure 90s would be sold out and the 70s would not.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

That's what I was going to say. It feels like the 90s. Maybe the 80s will do well too.

[Tim Pool]

But the I 80s and 90s will be sold.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

70s people, like. I don't know about all that.

[Tim Pool]

9 90s will be permanently sold out and wait listed.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

80s will be mostly sold out, but availability will be a bit easier. 70s will probably be really easy if

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

you could make it like, if you could find a unique way of doing it. Honestly, I think the early 2000s would do well too. Like 2000 to 2010. I do. Especially amongst.

[Tim Pool]

I think it would do better than the 70s.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If it was like 2003, 2004, you

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

can have Netflix, but it has to be a disc that gets delivered to you.

[Tim Pool]

You turn on the TV and it's Incubus. You know, Incubus is on mtv. You guys remember the box? It was the. It was the analog channel where you could call in a code. Oh, you'd call in it. The screen showed songs in the corner and it would say, like TLC, Waterfalls 113. 3. Then it would flash and be like Hypnotized by Joyce Big 154. You'd call the number in and then you'd enter the code and then it would play the song. Yeah, let's go. Yeah. So the only. The only reason I've had this idea for five years, the only reason we haven't done it is we need a manager who has the capability.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It would be a logistical.

[Tim Pool]

It's a very. It's a full. Very difficult job, King. Yeah, it's very difficult. But I guarantee you it would be sold out. Nine 90s would be sold out forever.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

You have to find somebody who runs some of these, like, boutique businesses that run these types of things, that these experiences.

[Tim Pool]

We also offer an optional service for Thanksgiving. We can have your extended family come over. If you don't have One for an extra two grand. And so we'll get like aunt and uncle with their teenage kids and grandma and grandpa come over, over. And so it'll be like, you know, you know, two aunts, like two aunts, two uncles, maybe like three or four teenage kids. And then two grandparents come and they'll have Thanksgiving with you. If you don't have anybody.

[Araceli Martinez]

That's so depressing.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

The two cousins who constantly go on a walk during Thanksgiving.

[Araceli Martinez]

Cousins, the wife, husband, experience what they

[Tim Pool]

bring like sweet potatoes with marshmallows and brown sugar on, on it. And then the insides like that. There's wallpaper.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Perfect.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You saw the interior of the Home Alone house, right?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's been desecrated.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah, well, that, I mean it wasn't actually filmed in that house. They built. They built sets.

[Araceli Martinez]

Why would you replace it with like just like a. It looks like a mental asylum.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Everything's brutalist. We got. Let's get this one from Eos. It says the all fruit thing was a Family Guy joke. Indeed it was. And it was amazing because on Family Guy Guy, Peter's like, we have to explain this to you. He was like, Seth McFarland's like, I understand that many of our audience under 40 won't get the reverence of this joke, so we're gonna have to show you. And then he like, he, he narrates what's going on. And the funniest thing is he's like, the thing I don't understand is if they all know who this guy is, why are they surprised by the way that he talks? And if they don't know who he is, why is he at the table? Yeah, it's a good point. And then they do the joke with Vladimir Putin.

[Brett Dasic]

Putin.

[Tim Pool]

Putin's like, will you pass the old fruit? Good jokes, good jokes. Let's grab some more of these, these old chats here from you guys to see what y' all think about. And what do we got here? Big says, look up the fan comics of Spider man meets the Joker. One has Punisher in it. You know, be really funny. They've done some Marvel DC crossovers, but. But I, I just could only imagine if they did a Punisher. Joker crossover. Yeah, Joker. Or, or like actually Punisher. Riddler would be the funniest. Riddler is going to be like, I have a riddle for.

[Phil]

He's gonna be like what most of the Punisher stuff like. Or most of the crossovers with the Punisher, like as soon as he confronts the bad guy, it's Over.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Phil]

There's no, no, no, you know, moral dilemma. There's like, fix the problem.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

They've turned Frank into, like a Taran. Tactical ad now, too. We know it's a what A tear and tactical ad.

[Tim Pool]

Ah, the.

[Phil]

I noticed. All right. Base plates. I couldn't help but think, man, how's he rolling around New York, like, with a AR like that? Like, cops would be after him. He'd be killing cops so much.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Can't do that.

[Tim Pool]

What have we here? Tom Step says we want to. Welcome to the world, baby. Stepian. He doesn't have a name yet. Could the panel vote? Is it Logan Ryder or Ashley Asher?

[Phil]

Logan.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Logan.

[Carter Banks]

I'd go with Asher. I don't know.

[Araceli Martinez]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I abstain. I don't know. I would, I would. I would say Logan or Asher.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Definitely not Ryder.

[Phil]

Definitely not Ryder.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Logan.

[Carter Banks]

Logan's too common.

[Brett Dasic]

All right.

[Tim Pool]

SGD says. Tim, I've been thinking about the structure the left uses in arguments and debate. Three steps. Be disingenuous, avoid charitability, and disqualify your opponent. Repeating this. Order, order. Test this for me. You know, I don't know. I think there's lie. You know, the, the debate's not about the debate. Right. You're not, you're never going to debate there. There's anyone who is, who is of a liberal persuasion, who wants to have a real discussion is going to be called a centrist. That's just it. Like, I, I, I. When I, when I, when I went on, like, trigonometry, these guys are like. How would you describe these guys? Modern moderates.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They would be what liberals were before. Yeah, but they're called moderates now because they'll sit down and be like, well, I mean, here's what's true. Then liberals will just lie and make things up. And then you're like, but that's not real. And then you like, destiny. He'll just yell at as loud as he can, asserting a thing is true and it's not so.

[Phil]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And then you're like, okay, he's the worst. All right, let's grab a couple more here. Code rapper says, dad granddad. Great granddad served to gain citizen. You're saying fourth generation.

[Phil]

They all served so they could gain citizenship.

[Tim Pool]

You could only vote if your grandfather served, your dad served, and you served three generations. So that means your grandfather didn't get to vote, your dad didn't get to vote. You're the first generation that'll get to vote. And if your kid serves he can vote and so on and so forth.

[Phil]

I don't, I mean, I don't mind the idea of having to be, you know, know, third generation before you're allowed to hold public office.

[Tim Pool]

We got a poor one. Blind admission says, hey Tim, we stopped in Cast Brew on the way to PA From Tennessee. Thank you for having several sugar free options and heavy cream. Awesome latte. Cast Brew coffee is open in Martinsburg, West Virginia. And I can't say too much, but it's crushing. It's crushing. So we're really excited.

[Brett Dasic]

We're going to do.

[Tim Pool]

We're going to do a commercial. We're going to film. We're going to film commercial sick. And then we're going to promote it in the area. It's been doing ridiculously well. We're really surprised, but it was really cool. A Bible study group. Shut up. A men's Bible study group. And they said that. This is what I was told. Like before the opening of Casper, they had to go to McDonald's because there was nowhere they could all sit down together. And now that the coffee shop opened and they have like, there's like a big table everyone can sit at. They can all hang out in the morning and do their Bible study.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

It's awesome.

[Tim Pool]

It's the coolest thing ever. That's exactly what it's all about out that you can come in, sit down on the couch, have a drink, hang out. The space is there for the community to, to work and, and do your

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

thing and if you go like, give it a good review on Yelp because to, to counter the people who give the negative ones.

[Tim Pool]

Someone gave a bad review before it was even open.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

That's, I mean, like, that's insane.

[Tim Pool]

People are nuts.

[Araceli Martinez]

What was a bad review?

[Tim Pool]

They claimed it like the service was slow and disrespectful. But the store wasn't even open. It was three weeks.

[Araceli Martinez]

Slow and disrespectful because you took too long to open.

[Tim Pool]

It's because these liberals lie.

[Araceli Martinez]

Oh, abso. That's the problem we have out there in California. People can. If you're not with the left and you have a business, you can't speak out because they do the same thing. They, they bombard people with fake negative reviews.

[James Talarico (clip)]

Yep.

[Phil]

Man, it's a, it's an absolute shame. But that's the, that's the polarization that we have in the, in the country now. It's, it's not just about, oh, we disagree. So you can live your life the way you want. I can live My life, the way I want it is you disagree. So I'm going to try to destroy you.

[Araceli Martinez]

Literally. And they believe themselves to be like, to have the moral high ground while absolutely destroying someone's livelihood. Not to mention like how much it takes to actually build a business in this country. Depending on the state, it's even harder. And you're willing to tear that away, take food off the table from their family because you don't like what, how they think.

[Phil]

And that's all it is, how they think and how they vote.

[Carter Banks]

There's.

[Tim Pool]

There's four reviews from before it even opened. One star. These people are not.

[Araceli Martinez]

But what were they talking about? What could they possibly say?

[Tim Pool]

Well, they're like, the coffee tasted bad, the service was terrible and the store was not even open. Because what happened is before it opened, somebody posted on X or whatever because the sign is up on the building. It says Casper, but it wasn't open. Somebody posts a picture. The leftists don't know it's not open yet. It was still under construction and permitting. So then they go on Google and they start giving it bad reviews. Says there's four, but it's because they are evil people. There's literally no reason to do this. It's a local coffee shop. There's nothing political in there. Yeah, but people, these people are scumbags. So it is what it is.

[Araceli Martinez]

They want you to fail because they don't want to try.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, my friends. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast. Ma', Am, would you like to shout anything out?

[Araceli Martinez]

You can follow me on Instagram at Araceli. Underscore, uncore, unfiltered. And if you'd like to go on my website for my campaign, it's Araceli. F O R C a dot com.

[Unknown Male Guest 1]

Guys, if you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and X at Brett Dasic on both of those platforms. You should check out Pop Culture Crisis. We are live Monday through Friday, 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time. That is noon Pacific. YouTube and rumble. Also, if you are a member of the Tim Cast discord, I do do a 7pm show every other Saturday. So I will be doing one this Saturday. We're going to do an hour talking about whatever's in the news, pop culture wise that day. Hope to see you there. Thanks guys.

[Phil]

I am filler remains on Twix. You can check out my patreon I'm at Filler Remains. There. The band is all that remains. You can check out the band on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

[Carter Banks]

Carter, I'm Carter Banks. You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and at Carter Banks official everywhere else. Follow our record record label at Trash house Records on YouTube. YouTube and yeah, I can't wait to see what the after show has in store for Phil tonight on. All right, let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

We'll see you guys [e-mail] Timcast IRL right now for the Uncensored show. Thanks for hanging out.