Antifa CONVICTED Of TERRORISM, Fears Of CIVIL WAR Grow w/ Paul Dans & Cody Dennison

Summary

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Timcast IRL Podcast Summary

"Antifa CONVICTED Of TERRORISM, Fears Of CIVIL WAR Grow w/ Paul Dans & Cody Dennison"

Date: November 22, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode of Timcast IRL, Tim Pool is joined by Project 2025 architect and Senate candidate Paul Dans, NASCAR driver and YouTuber Cody Dennison, regular panelists Ian Crossland and Phil Labonte, for an intense, fast-paced discussion on several urgent issues. The panel analyzes the major story of Antifa members being convicted of terrorism, rising fears and poll data suggesting Americans believe a civil war is looming, systemic distrust of government institutions, the impact of AI and technology on society, failures of modern leadership, and a tapestry of culture war themes.

Conversations move rapidly between breaking news, deep-dive analysis, and spirited debates, reflecting the show's characteristic mix of skepticism, frustration, and sharp critique of both political establishments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Major News: Antifa Terror Convictions

Timestamp: [05:32]

• The panel reacts to Andy Ngo’s reporting on the first ever federal terrorism convictions for self-identified Antifa members after an organized July 4th attack on an ICE facility.
• Tim Pool and Phil Labonte mock the "Antifa is just an idea" argument, pointing out that members admitting to being "Antifa" in plea deals disproves years of denial from the left.
  • Phil Labonte [06:30]: "You can no longer say that it doesn’t exist—this is a real thing, an actual organization."
• Cody Dennison and Paul Dans critique the delayed response, blaming feckless Republican leadership and failure of institutions for years of inaction.
  • Paul Dans [07:44]: "It’s a start but about 10 years too late… we’re just finally getting at it."
  • Contrast is drawn between aggressive left/progressive prosecution versus Republican “stern emails and angry letters.”
• The group laments that straightforward enforcement is being seen as extraordinary, when this should be expected as a baseline of governance.
  • Cody Dennison [09:01]: “… giving them kudos for doing the bare minimum of their job… It was an organized attack.”

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2. Escalation Toward Political Violence & Civil War Fears

Timestamp: [15:09]

• Discussion pivots to rising civil war rhetoric in mainstream media and polling showing over half of Americans foresee civil unrest.
• Tim Pool details mutual escalations: Trump calling Democratic actions "seditious" and “punishable by death,” while prominent Democrats urge military personnel to defy Trump’s orders, encouraging de facto mutiny.
  • Tim Pool [22:56]: "We are now looking at, as you mentioned, Fauci should be in leg irons, but he's not. … If we are not going to get actual law enforcement, what do you think people in this country are gonna do?"
• Paul Dans argues the core problem is lack of accountability for political, bureaucratic, and intelligence figures—mentioning Fauci and General Milley, who allegedly subverted chain of command.
  • Paul Dans [30:45]: "…these folks, and they're hiding behind congressional debate protection … this is calling for dismantling of the rule of law."

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3. Collapse of Institutional Trust & The Pressure Cooker

Timestamps: [28:08], [32:21]

• The sense is the system is “rigged”—elites face no consequences; the left pushes revolutionary change; the right is increasingly reactionary but inert.
• Tim and guests discuss apathy among the general population, noting that historic revolutions are elite conflicts, not mass uprisings—drawing the "3 percenters" parallel.
  • Tim Pool [28:31]: "But civil war was never about the general population. It was always about the elites."
• Younger generations express despair at achieving the American Dream, fueling radicalization on all sides.
  • Tim Pool [33:26]: "You can't buy houses, can't find jobs. … there's only one path, and it's not elections."

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4. Economic Anxiety and Systemic Problems

Timestamp: [17:18], [19:55], [37:00]

• Extended critique of the Federal Reserve system, national debt, and fiat money’s reliance on “faith”—mixing populist frustration with technocratic systems.
  • Paul Dans [19:55]: “Democrats have been able to do it … with the AOCs and the Bernies … on our side you see that with, you know, MTGs and Thomas Massie … I think they can, they're very good at the small dollars and obviously the mind control whipping people into a frenzy.”
• Fear that no administration will challenge entrenched financial interests, and that any true challenge would provoke catastrophic blowback.

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5. Culture War, Education, and Grassroots Organizing

Timestamp: [41:09]

• Politico story: Democrats sweep school boards, refocusing on test scores and bus safety instead of hot-button issues like bathrooms and library books.
  • Tim Pool argues the right's messaging has grown stale, letting Dems regain ground at the local level.
  • Paul Dans [43:33]: “... the left is just better at organization. … they're on it all the time … we are going to win this through grassroots.”
• Discussion about Marxist theory in education schools, the slow march through the institutions, and indoctrination of future teachers.
  • Phil Labonte [47:19]: "There's a book … the Pedagogy of Education by Freire … that's Marxist … the schools that teach teachers are teaching teachers Marxist literature …"

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6. Technology, AI, and Human Alienation

Timestamps: [60:54], [62:19]

• Extended discussion on the coming “AI revolution,” potential for mass technological unemployment, and the risk/benefit of regulating AI.
  • Paul Dans [61:25]: “We built a federal system here … but look, AI, we're duking it out left and right on the beach and AI is this tidal wave coming for all of us … it portends just a complete change in human interaction. You have to be human first about it.”
• The group draws Matrix and science fiction analogies—fear that society will atrophy, plug into “the pod,” lose its work ethic and vitality.

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7. Social Media, Mental Health, and Spiritual Crisis

Timestamps: [97:25], [101:27]

• Repeatedly, guests assert that alienation, declining family/community ties, and the addictive nature of the internet and social media are driving instability and nihilism.
  • Cody Dennison [102:01]: "...the content I'm covering will be almost overtly negative. ... It starts to wear on me mentally. ... I unplug everything and ... it completely resets me."
  • Paul Dans [98:32]: "I would what Cody was saying earlier draw back and say well why are people desperate for such a meeting? And it's in my mind alienation from God. 100%... This is spiritual warfare going on out there."
• Advocacy for intentional community time, “analog living,” Sabbath-like device-free dinners.

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8. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Paul Dans [07:44]: “It’s a start but about 10 years too late. Honestly. … We were gaslit for years to be told there is no such thing.”
• Cody Dennison [102:01]: "...when I unplug ... it completely resets me."
• Tim Pool [22:56]: "If we are not going to get actual law enforcement, what do you think people in this country are gonna do? Just say, I guess we're ruled by tyrants?"
• Phil Labonte [06:30]: "You can no longer say that it doesn’t exist—this is a real thing, an actual organization."
• Ian Crossland [33:26]: "The thing we need to avoid is turning on each other as Americans … I believe it is foreign corporations bankrupting our country through the Federal Reserve system."
• Paul Dans [30:44]: "You need to mete out reprisal for them immediately. … This is the beginning of insurrection."
• Tim Pool [47:58]: "...they still learn the stuff that Paulo Freire taught. It's not about the man. It's about the ideas."
• Cody Dennison [46:20]: "Everybody's so hyper politicized right now, so reactionary … They just repeat headlines."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [05:32] – Antifa terror convictions
• [15:09] – Civil war rhetoric and elite conflict
• [17:18] – Banking system critique
• [22:56] – Systemic accountability failures & escalation
• [30:44] – Failure to hold elites responsible
• [32:21] – Why the right is weak; the growing appeal of extremes
• [41:09] – Democrats win school boards; right's stale messaging
• [47:19] – Marxist ideology in teacher education
• [60:54] – Societal decline, Matrix analogies, AI regulation
• [97:25] – Spiritual solution, devices and mental health
• [101:27] – Tech addiction, burnout, need for community, Sabbath argument
• [102:01] – Unplugging for mental health

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Tone and Language

The discussion is raw, irreverent, and highly conversational, with frequent shifts between dark humor, political rage, intellectual analysis, and calls for personal and collective action. The panel pulls no punches, often mocking political opponents and expressing real frustration at perceived failures of leadership, with an undercurrent of resignation about the trajectory of American politics.

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Conclusion

This episode encapsulates the mood of much of the American dissident right: a powerful sense of crisis, deep distrust of all major institutions, and a yearning for accountability, community, and grassroots action. Whether discussing Antifa’s terror convictions, AI, school curriculums, economic precarity, or spiritual decline, the panel see America at a crossroads—one in which old answers are failing, new threats loom, and only radical honesty, community, and principled resistance offer hope.

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First time ever, antifa individuals have been convicted of terrorism. So movement is happening. I know a lot of people are expecting a lot more from the Trump administration, but things are happening. And yeah, we call it a C plus. Good. Not great. But there is a bunch of other news and of course, you know, I can't resist. The corporate press has two articles up talking about how Americans are gearing up for a civil war. Hey, maybe it was because yesterday Donald Trump referred to the actions of Democrats as seditious warranting death. And Senator Chris Murphy then called on people to pick sides. Oh boy. So we'll talk about that and then. Ooh, a real fun story. The Somali refugees in Minnesota and other places have been sending the welfare money they receive from the government to terrorists.

[C]

You think they're in the CIA?

[D]

To. To terrorists? Indeed. They're. They're taking money from the United States and, and giving it to terrorists. So that's, you know, how's it going?

[E]

It's.

[D]

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Hey, I'm Paul Dan. I'm former director of Project 2025. I am the true American first conservative running to primary the swamp critter and warmonger Lindsay Graham. So follow us this is going to happen. Go to pauldan.com support us. Chip in and follow us on Twitter at at Paul Dan for Senate. Dan for Senate.

[D]

Right on. And race car extraordinaire is back.

[E]

I'm back again. I just showing up.

[D]

You know I told people you were sleeping under the table. Yeah. Who are you? What do you do?

[E]

I go in circles for a living. I also do YouTube at Camelot331 and Camelcast off on X and just trying to get better every single day.

[D]

So and of course your name is Cody Dennison.

[E]

That's me. Cody Dennis, NASCAR driver. There you go.

[C]

Cody's still here because to get out of here you have to take a right.

[B]

Stuck in a loop.

[E]

He's stuck.

[B]

Every day I see Tim's face.

[D]

Ian is here.

[B]

Hi everyone. Paul, I just got to know, I'm not going to ask you in the intro but like, how are your feelings about military domination through force in the Middle east, the United States? You don't have to answer the question now, but through the intro, since you're running against Lindsey Graham, I'm fascinated with the, the concept. Phil Abonti. I'm Ian Crossland by the way. Happy to be here. We got Phil.

[C]

Hello everybody. My name is Phil Abonti. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains of an Anti Communist and a Counter revolutionary. And I can take right turns. Let's get into it.

[D]

Here's a story from the post Millennial Big news. Andy no reports the first anti terrorism convictions in US history. Massive. Five far left extremists have admitted to being antifa members and terrorists in federal plea deals stemming from a coordinated ambush shooting on a U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement facility on the Fourth of July. Wait a minute, I thought antifa was just an idea. How could individuals admit to being a part of antifa in a plea deal? Certainly this can't be true. They're not lying, are they? Or maybe now, when faced with real criminal charges, they admit it. There was that guy several years ago, you remember this? He went to the ICE facility in, I was like, Spokane, I think, and he firebombed vehicles and started shooting at the, at the cops there, the agents there. And he had a manifesto that said he was antifa. And so we pointed to people like, hey, these guys align with this, this ideology and are part of these cells. And the Democrats just go, there's no antifa. They don't exist.

[C]

No, one of the one thing about this that I think is, is universally good for, for people that are in this space particularly is the fact that the left loves to say, well, antifa isn't real, it's just an idea, et cetera. Now you can point to this particular case and say, look, these guys admitted, you know, they, they admitted. So that way they, they could get a reduced sentence or whatever. They made a plea deal. This is a real thing. This is an actual organization. You can no longer say that it doesn't exist, that it's just an idea. This is a, these people are Actually out there they're looking farm to, in this case ICE agents or law, you can just say law enforcement. And it essentially disassembles the argument the left has had for ages.

[E]

It's very silly because there's so many different organizations which their, their excuse is, well, you can't buy a membership. You can't use like some kind of currency to enter into an agreement with Antifa. But that, that actually goes for every organization. There's so many different organizations that they like to slam that you can't buy a membership to. And that was their biggest, their biggest excuse. Well, you can't buy a membership, we can't buy a membership to tons of these different quote unquote names or acronyms that are floating around everywhere. But they love to throw heat at those every chance they can get. So it's always been silly to me since the first time I heard that.

[F]

Well, it's a start, but it's about 10 years too late. Honestly. We finally got in at it. But this was a sign of the fecklessness of Attorney General Bill Barr. This is sign effectlessness of Lindsey Graham. Senate Republicans could have brought this to the fore and really educated American population on what's going on here. And now we're gaslit for years to be told there is no such thing. And we watch cities being taken over. So look, I'm not gonna get over excited. This is what should be happening every day. But at least it's a little bit of forward motion.

[E]

It's a little better because we're so used to conservatives being more reactionary than actually taking action. Like we were talking about yesterday. You know, there's all these situations where we were like, please just do something, do something. Because as soon as the left is in power, they're throwing everybody in prison. They don't care what anybody thinks. They may be the party of morality and good feelings, but they'll throw you in jail in two seconds. And then when conservatives get in, it's all about angry emails. We're going to send a very stern email and it's like we need action.

[F]

Yeah, this is a five person plea deal. Eleven months in. Where are the bulletin boards? All over the country. The dragnet they did for Jason, that could have rolled out like within the first two months. The Trump administration. So look, it's all over the states. This is a first Nick at the problem, but let's get going.

[C]

Yeah, it feels good, but at the same time, really we're essentially just giving them kudos for doing the Bare minimum of their job. Right. These, these people are terrorists. These people attack law enforcement. They're trying to kill law enforcement. It was an organized attack. I think these are the guys that went after they attacked the BORTAC guys, which is.

[D]

Yeah, I think so.

[C]

Like the, the direct action border patrol guys. That's a really dumb idea in the first place. But you know, it's good that, that this is happening. But again, you shouldn't get kudos for doing the bare minimum.

[D]

Didn't you guys hear that the Republican Party in the house just condemned socialism?

[C]

I was just going to talk.

[D]

Oh, you know, unilaterally getting it done. That's right. Now these antifa guys are running around committing acts of terror. But we need to make sure everyone knows we don't like it's the kerfuffle.

[B]

I think Phil, you mentioned it's not just an idea because anti fascism is a concept. It's an idea. They then now there's little organizations that name the organization Antifa. That doesn't mean that they're explicitly anti fascism. You can call your organization Democratic, the Republican Party and not be a Republican, not uphold a republic and still call yourself whatever you want. So just it's the organization of funds that really make this the problem. It doesn't matter what it's called.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, that's a great point. And to your point, you know, no one thinks that the democratic, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic. Like everyone knows that it's not, but yet that's what they call it.

[F]

So.

[B]

And there's the Republic of Iran, the Iranian Republic. It's. It's a theocracy.

[C]

Yeah, I don't know anything about Iran to say what the, what type of government.

[B]

The theocracy.

[C]

Well, I understand that, but I know that the republic, the mullah or whoever's in charge, the Ayatollah, he's actually the guy in charge. But I don't know what the government structure is like.

[B]

So they promised a republic and then just like the communists, they say it's communist, but it's not. It's vanguardist. If it was communist, the people would own the government. They don't.

[C]

Communists always talk about democracy, but it's got to be true. Democracy, no people. Only the people that have like the. The right information and the awakened consciousness.

[D]

We've been over this before, Ian, but you have challenged me again.

[B]

Tim, don't say it.

[C]

No, it's not worth it.

[D]

The thing I would add about the communist stuff is the people do own it. It's just who administrates it. And so the question of ownership becomes nonsensical. How can everyone own the same thing? I mean, like, bro, that jacket looks stunning. I own it and you own it. So who gets to wear it? And then you need someone to basically adjudicate the claim of who gets to own what. Two gets to wear what we both.

[B]

Own, who gets access to the.

[D]

And then you get at the administrator and he says, you're stupid. Shut up.

[B]

Shut up. I get to own it.

[D]

This is why it's impossible for communism to exist. Because how do two people drink the same lemonade they both own it doesn't make sense. Not possible.

[F]

We should back up and say, why are we even talking about this in the first place? Is because feckless Republicans in Congress, you know, now condemn socialism. Why don't you condemn unaffordability? Why don't you condemn the fact that the American dream has been taken away from the last, this next generation? That's the reason why people are even thinking about this stuff. So that, you know, giving things labeled.

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And getting into the actual political debate of what is socialism should Never even be in our spirit to start with. We have this great land of liberty with all these resources and the fact that people are being crowded out and even entertaining. This is a travesty in the first place.

[B]

Do you think it's like a. What do they call it? A red herring? They're trying to focus on like, yeah, socialism, although it could be a serious problem. But it's like corporatocracy that's bankrupted our country through the Federal Reserve, but they just don't want to mention it.

[C]

Is it corporatocracy that's bankrupted our country?

[B]

Well, they're using corporations like the Federal Reserve, a quasi public private organization.

[D]

Hold on, hold on.

[E]

Call it.

[D]

We need a word for what this is. Is there a word for this? Because the Federal Reserve system that bankrupted us is not corporatism or capitalism. It's like federal reservism.

[B]

Yeah. And the bank for International Settlements. Technically, it's owned by its shareholders, so it's private, but they govern themselves. It's like no government has any authority over them.

[D]

Centralized bankism.

[B]

Yeah, it's above nationalism. Like it. They trying to create a corporate governance system. You know, obviously ESG is explicitly a statement of we want a corporate government. And then. So I think that's what the Federal Reserve is, that tentacle in the United States of the corporate government.

[F]

It's a private club. At the end of the day, that's who controls the money supply. And you know, it's kind of antithetical, obviously, to the basis of our, of our participatory democracy. So that's what really stands out. That's the eternal tension with the Federal Reserve.

[D]

I don't think we have a democracy or republic or anything like that. I think we've. You know, we had an interesting debate earlier on the culture war about this rift in the right. And Joel Berry had made the point that the woke left wants a revolution, the woke right wants revolution. And I said, but so do you. The mega conservatives are calling for a revolution of the liberal economic order.

[B]

You know, I thought I heard you say that, and I thought maybe our system, the United States government, is sort of self revolutionary with you can amend laws and you can put new people in power through voting.

[D]

But bro, it's a type of revolution. Changing forward, overthrowing the liberal economic order is a revolution.

[B]

It would be.

[D]

But dismantling the International Monetary Fund banking system and how we operate as the United States with foreign intervention, it's a revolution. And that's why they oppose Trump to the degree they do. And I would stress this, antifa are the useful idiot foot soldiers of that machine.

[B]

You could repeal the Federal Reserve act which would be a legal, peaceful form of revolution against the banking order, but it wouldn't solve the problem. It would just take away one of the poison pieces that's holding up the Jenga puzzle.

[D]

Any member of Congress who had a real shot at passing a bill to repeal the Federal Reserve act would find himself accidentally shooting himself twice in the head or taking his own life by shooting himself three times in the face.

[F]

I can say the very thought of surfacing that would probably cause an electronic financial cataclysm. That's how strong the impulse is that anyone get near this third rail live of the Federal Reserve even intoning audit or more transparency on the organization. Look, they're very real big collusive financial powers that will shock the system and really put pain just for the very threat of reform.

[B]

Like foreign systems. They'll be like, well now's our chance to bankrupt the U.S. and we'll tell everyone they brought it on themselves by repealing the Federal Reserve and then they'll beg us to create another Federal Reserve Act. They'll pull all their funds, they'll pull all their international support and then we'll be stuck with fiat like recreating a new currency. Based on what? All our gold that we sold to China. I don't know what's our gold status?

[C]

And right now our, our money's based on faith in the system.

[D]

Indeed, confidence.

[B]

If they fall back on crypto, we're equally screwed.

[D]

Bro. Bitcoin is dumped.

[B]

Well, I just bought a bunch. I know, 2000 or something.

[D]

84 wild from 120 stock marketed too.

[B]

It went down 30%. So it's all. Something happened in the last two weeks.

[D]

It means the dollar is doing well. Oh, if everything goes down, dollar's doing better. I hope maybe Trump is succeeding.

[C]

Crossed.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Well okay, so if we did, if there's a threat on the Federal Reserve and then like you said it would caught a chain reaction and a cataclysm on the economy. Is there any like short term, like a five year plan that we could reinvigorate American economy?

[F]

Well one I think you have to have Federal Reserve governors and the board more receptive to having political appointees within it. We need more transparency and that's what you know, part of the Secretary Bessen and President Trump should push for that. Ultimately people need to see through those windows and the goings on. It's really a kind of a Group of macroeconomists who come right out of the academy and basically are superintending life for us. So first getting to know what's going on in the building would be a first cut and then ultimately auditing it. Getting some understanding of the numbers will go a long way. But removing it without having something in place is going to be really difficult. And even having this debate, like I say, you get marked no. 1 on Wall Street. Look, we were talking earlier about who's going to replace Trump. Trump is gone in two years after the midterms. And where does our movement go? In my case, I'm fighting for America first. It should never get handed over to Lindsey Graham. That's a guy who, if he had his way, there never would have been a Trump. There never would have been America First. But you know, things like the Fed, many of these politicians have to get the money costs a billion dollars plus to run for president. And that money is going to come from those big corporate titans is coming from Wall Street.

[C]

Do you think that there's a possibility. So the left is really moving that kind of the establishment Democrats, at least the bases, right. They tend to feel more affinity for people like Bernie Sanders or for aoc. Do you think it's possible for someone like that to raise the money necessary to run or do you think that you still need the big establishment donors, at least on the Democrat side?

[F]

Well, I'm running for small dollars. I remind everyone to go to pauldance.com please prove me right. Look, that's our only hope really. And that Democrats have been able to do it with the AOCs and the Bernie's. And then on our side you see that with, you know, MTGs and Thomas Massie and these others who are really fighting the system, I think they can, they're very good at the small dollars and obviously the mind control whipping people into a frenzy. You know there was in my case, I was the architect of Project 2025. But I can't imagine how many millions, if not billions they raised off of.

[D]

Fear mongering on that is Trump adhering to your vision.

[F]

About 80% of what they're doing in the first 11 months, I guess is coming out of our work. You know, it was, look, it was always, it was a repackaging of what Trump had done in first term. But it was also kind of applauding appoints. It was never supposed to be the agenda, but certainly a reference guide, a resource. And the fact that we had these policy and personnel modules ready to go day one that's how he was able to come out of the gate wave after wave after wave. Now the question is like, are we actually going to get things to stick? Is are we getting the execution of it? And that's where we're getting bogged down.

[B]

Doge, particularly, man, Elon got just booted by both sides of both parties because they were. He's getting too close to the big money.

[F]

Yeah. I mean, look, I salute what he did. This was a real first cut at it. I really feel like Doge was a concept car. Well, you know, Project 2025 was the concept car. And Doge might have been like the first production model. And it was cooler in some ways than the actual concept, which is kind of unusual. But the way he moved out on it, bringing private sector techniques, really, the accounting is lessons learned from X. That you could actually remove 80% of the workforce and the things still kind of hum along is important.

[D]

Let's jump to this story from the Independent. Most Americans believe the US Is on the path to another civil war. Shocking new poll finds. Majority fear polarizing nature of modern politics leading to irreparable social division, survey finds. And then there's a picture of Joe Rogan because it gets clicks. Thank you, Independent jacket suit. You know, that's what we needed, they say. The survey from the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human rights, conducted between October 30 and November 6, asked respondents which issues they felt strongly about, with 57% saying they feared a new war between the states. And you know what's really funny is that this survey concluded well before Donald Trump said Democrats should be put to death or hanged. So to be fair, he was. It's Democrats who called for the military to engage in rebellion against the United States. And so here we are. Um, you know, the funny thing about interpretation of statements is that a lot of these new organizations are not running with the headline Trump calls for execution. Democrats are. But I think that's pretty obviously what Trump did when he said seditious behavior punishable by death and then reposted a guy saying, hang them. George Washington would. He's saying they should die for what they did. Uh, now the thing is, the Democrats are saying take sides, but they're not going to admit that when they told the military to defy illegal orders, they were instructing the military to revolt, to rebel against the chain of command, because they have already claimed Trump is engaged in giving out illegal orders. He's not, but this is what they're doing. Hey, look, that order from Trump is illegal. Defy illegal orders. You're like, okay, you just said, don't take that order from Trump to defy it. So they're calling for insurrection. Trump's calling it sedition and treason. And the polls are coming out being like, even before this happened, people thought civil war was coming. So am I right or am I wrong? I think you're both right and wrong.

[B]

Yeah. Question. First question is, how many people were pulled? Couple thousand, maybe. And usually the people that answer polls like this are enraged anyway. Well, not usually.

[D]

Oh, it just links to Axios. That's funny.

[B]

They buried under it says, a poll.

[D]

Of 336 million Americans, including the babies.

[B]

Everybody got a chance.

[D]

Everybody.

[B]

The neural net for you.

[D]

I remember when they asked me. Remember?

[B]

I would have.

[C]

They didn't ask you. They just looked at your YouTube channel.

[B]

The thing about.

[D]

We know what Tim pool thinks. American 1103, likely midterm voters.

[B]

Okay, so 1100 people, small segment. Obviously, the people that answer polls tend to have a certain proclivity, but that.

[D]

Aside, they tend to be normies who don't pay attention and are quite dumb. And they're all scared of civil war.

[B]

That might be because MSNBC would. Might have you think it.

[C]

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[B]

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[D]

Ms. No one watching.

[B]

I think that American citizens have been so distanced from actual military action, especially on the home soil. We haven't tasted it for 170 years that ordering your military commanders to defy the president's order might seem like a soft command or a soft issuance.

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$830 required visit t mobile.com and in reality, when it's life or death on the line and you're trying to get the generals to betray the commander, you may as well be trying to kill everyone in the country. Like that mindset I think needs people need to understand the actual the reason why it's considered seditious to do that kind of thing. Now I agree not all laws are good. Some laws do need to be defied and sometimes governments will do illegal things. So there is that argument can be made. But it's not a soft command to get to tell the gov, you know, the military to defy the president that.

[D]

You.

[B]

I don't know if it justifies calling them seditious traitors and hang them or any of that.

[D]

Start believing in civil war Zan, you're in one. Talk about a great movie.

[B]

I know they've kept me in the dark because they want the citizens to just blindly pay their taxes and go.

[D]

Along with they kept you in the dark because they fear what you might do if you learn the truth. You that's right.

[B]

Fear me. Not great ones. You better fear me. I'm here to help.

[F]

Look, I don't think we're on the edge of a civil war, but I do think that we're looking at kind of a reprise of the depression that happened after J6 in the fallout. I mean it was only five years ago where we were being told if you didn't take the jab, if you didn't have the right group think online that you'd be kicked out of polite society. Debanked, deplatformed. Now they're not in power right now, but their same urges are realizing they can do it in other spheres of power. California, wherever some state control.

[D]

You don't.

[F]

But they're beginning to kind of foment this. And I think part of the problem is that on our side we haven't gotten the accountability. We've had a lot of hand waving. We've had 11 months and now like, people like Lindsey and the rest of the gang are, you know, moving on without actually, like, Fauci should be in leg irons. Okay. People who debanked, people like General Flynn, the folks who went after these, I think should be marched out of the FBI.

[D]

And it's a good reason to explain why we are on the path to a civil war. Fauci lied to Congress. It was reported by Newsweek that he lied to Congress. There's been no accountability. And people are getting frustrated and fed up because elections aren't solving any of these issues.

[F]

But I don't know if they actually, you know, what is civil war? It's more like kind of, we're more verging on people just completely becoming apathetic and going away and.

[D]

But civil war was never about the general population. It was always about the elites.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

So this is where the phrase the 3 percenters come from. The American Revolution. Only 3% of the American population actually fought. Most people just did not care. They were apathetic. The apathy opens the door to the revolutionaries when people feel detached. So what I see is Donald Trump calling the actions of Democrats seditious. Punishable by death. Sedition is not punishable by death, by the way. But Trump said it. And there's actually a funny tweet we have from Matt Walsh where he said the leading report said President Trump does not want to execute members of Congress. White House says. And Matt Walsh had most disappointing flip flop of all time. Clint Russell responded. I was nearly back on the Trump train. The point is, you've got the. Excuse me. The military being deployed from state to state. The states are defying it. A couple Illinois National Guard said that it feels illegal. Democrats have called on these servicemen and women to defy Trump's orders that are illegal, which of course is an interpretation of the individual. And then Donald Trump responds as he did. Not to mention, you have the terror attacks on Tesla across the board throughout the over this past year and the murder, assassination of Charlie.

[F]

I'm not trying to discount how serious that this is with those six folks. And so. But some of them.

[D]

Let me just ask this. Sorry. But my point being with all of these things that we can iterate ad nauseum, we are now looking at, as you mentioned, Fauci should be in leg irons, but he's not. And what are we getting? Letitia James, Mortgage fraud, which is like, come on, we know what they did in New York to Trump with his fake charges. We Know what Adam Schiff did over Russiagate and we know what Fauci did because the Fauci wants cut and dry. We watched him lie to Congress and Newsweek reported it. If we are not going to get actual law enforcement, what do you think people in this country are gonna do? Just say, I guess we're ruled by tyrants?

[F]

Well, this is, I can tell you as someone who served in the Trump 45, the impulse is always like, oh, you guys have to look ahead. You can't go back and kind of even the score for what happened in the past. And that's where people are being let off the hook with respect to Fauci, but also, you know, bar and all the way down the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley, basically what he did was sedition in a sense, calling China and saying, hey, don't pay attention to the treason.

[D]

That's treason. That's treason.

[F]

Well, yeah, I mean treason technically I think has to be during a wartime but certainly, you know, it seems that it's on that road. And they are close cousins here with their point with the sedition though. These folks are intelligence officers. It's like you don't walk away from that life. And they know exactly what they're doing. They're very sophisticated. You know, they're the ones who perfected all this behavioral science stuff. So look, you need to mete out reprisal for them immediately. These folks and they're hiding behind some sort of congressional debate protection, they believe they'rebut that's not the truth. You know, this is calling for dismantling of the rule of law and in a complete kind of invasion of the executive branch. He is commander in chief and kind of using coded language to tell our army and our armed forces to stand down from direct orders is the beginning of insurrection.

[B]

I felt very.

[D]

So it's not war, but there's an interesting point in that the treason charges are about adhering to its enemies. And that's defined in US law as a foreign power or group that is engaged in hostility against the United States even without a formal declaration of war. If we determine that China is an enemy of the United States, and I think many, most Americans probably would than merely calling China outside of the chain of command to who knows what he was trying to do is treasonous.

[F]

Well, we're 11 months in again. My point like, why hasn't that been, you know, and when you let this spans of time go, justice delayed is justice denied. You only empower these people to try again.

[D]

And this is why Trump's gonna lose. Or is losing is a better way to put it. But the argument is about the ascendancy of Nick Fuentes. He's been popping up in conversations over and over again. We had a debate about him on the culture war earlier today, and there's a lot of traditional conservatives that are very upset about it, but I keep pointing out it's because you are weak, because the Republicans are weak and could not be weaker. Anthony Fauci, according to Newsweek, lied to Congress. This is not even. This is not even like, maybe we can get an indictment. No, no, no, no. He. Newsweek said he did it, and that is a crime. And Bannon and Navarro went to prison for contempt of Congress, and we can't even get perjury charges on this guy. Okay? What's going to happen is the younger generation, they can't buy houses, they can't find jobs. They are going to say, there's only one path, and it's not elections. And that is terrifying. But you know what? Boomers, you get so much of the blame, but this. Not all boomers, you know, not all boomers, but too many of them are just like, we gotta slow down there. You know, take it slow. And the young people are like, you have destroyed my future, and I will get revenge.

[B]

The boomers, they're like, if we play ball, we'll be able to own our house when we're older. But the thing that we need to avoid is turning on each other as Americans because, well, in my belief, it is foreign corporations that are bankrupting our country through the Federal Reserve System.

[D]

Okay, hold on there, Ian. Like, you're going way far out there. I got some questions for you first. Do you agree with child sex changes?

[B]

Agree in what?

[D]

Do you think they should be legal?

[F]

No.

[D]

Do you think that an individual should be allowed to meet a child online and drive them across state lines and into Oregon for a sex change?

[F]

No.

[D]

Okay, well, see, you have a very. Your worldview is very, very at odds with the left, Maybe.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And you're saying you don't want to turn against those people while they're actively doing as I described.

[B]

I was talking about this earlier, too. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy, I'll ally with that person. I don't have to agree with your behavior. Joseph Stal. The Nazis are invading Russia. You're on our side for now.

[D]

That conversation was. There is a line.

[B]

Yeah, but when you're up against global tyranny through economic slavery, I'm willing to turn a blind eye to someone that wants to have their kids, sex changed, like, whatever. I don't want starvation of the system. That's what I'm trying to avoid.

[D]

Or the same people who are opening the borders so the global elites can gut and destroy this country. You're not going to align with these people. There is a problem in this country you cannot align with.

[F]

I think also we have to watch dividing into two camps. And I think it's more a global thing. And I hear this on the campaign trail, but I believe it too. It's. We're engaged in the good and evil, a spiritual battle, really. And, you know, there's travelers on both sides of the divide here. Look, one thing that always unites these people, and you saw that, the Dick Cheney funeral yesterday. War, they love killing, basically. And like Lindsey Graham, look, his idea, the Republican Party were killing all the right people and we're cutting your taxes. And, you know, there you're seeing him fist bump with Kamala. So obviously there is. There is a commonality there with the left that, you know, they're going to be able to find common ground here. You know, when I talk to the younger generation on the campaign trail, they are dead set against foreign intervention, you know, particularly in the Middle east, people, you know, kind of championing foreign powers over what's happening on the ground in South Carolina. So I agree, like, we can get together with people on the left, even the youths, like, everyone can't afford this. Everyone's paying the same price at Chipotle and seeing the sandwich go up double or whatever the case is, getting that medical bill at the end of the month and going, this is insane, you know, So I do think if we focus on affordability, we can begin to get our way out of this.

[B]

Regarding the Middle east, and you said people want non intervention. I think a lot of Nick Fuentes audience, since he came up earlier, is anti intervention. They want to stop foreign wars. How do you do that? If we were to stop funding Israel and basically give up control of the Suez Canal, I think a lot of the Middle Eastern control is to maintain trade routes from Europe to Asia and profit off of it. So if we give the Suez to the Russians or the Chinese, basically because we're like, we're not, then would that not destroy our country economically?

[D]

No, I think we'd save money in.

[B]

The short term, perhaps.

[D]

But you know what this country needs to. To function. It's manufacturing it.

[C]

So there's a Egypt controls a Suez.

[D]

I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't Want to spoil? There's a documentary I watched and there was an interesting point made where in. What's that, what's the name of that white enclave in South Africa?

[F]

Irania.

[D]

Irania, right. So I thought this guy gets interviewed and he says, we don't allow any outsourcing. Outsourcing of labor. We have to do it within the community. And the reason why is once you start outsourcing cheap labor, you're giving away your resources and your skills. This is what the United States did. So our manufacturing goes overseas and within a couple generations, you have no economy. People can't do work. The argument from the liberal economic order was that we'll just be fat and rich and do nothing. It's the stupidest globe global communism garbage. It doesn't make sense. So with the Suez Canal, with the petrodollar, with the liberal economic order, Americans will do nothing. And then we'll just have money because we point guns at everybody. And then eventually you have a bunch of retarded citizens who can't maintain that system.

[C]

Yeah, I just want. I just want to point out the Suez Canal is controlled by the Suez Canal Authority. It's run. It's Egypt that's controlling it. It's not Israel at all.

[B]

Well, Israel's got the nukes pointed.

[C]

Well, Israel has nuclear weapons, but that doesn't mean that Israel is in control of the Suez Canal.

[D]

The Suez. We give Egypt a bunch of money.

[B]

So that they do Saudi Arabia. That's why we're there.

[C]

Like I said, the SCA manages the canal and it's, it's. Obviously it has to answer to the rest of the world because the United States is essentially the enforcer of, of international law when it comes to trade on the seas. But it has nothing to do with Israel.

[B]

It's in foreign. That's foreign intervention. We're intervening in Israel, in Egyptian and in Saudi Arabian politics by giving them ton of money to uphold our hegemony.

[C]

It's not our hegemony. This is. The United States makes, is the, the global hegemon. So it makes sure that all the countries in the world can use the seas, the oceans, as a means to transport because they're international. It has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. It has nothing to do or it has nothing to do with one individual country, it's the whole entire world that looks to the United States because we have the largest, most powerful navy in the world to make sure that all countries can operate in the seas.

[F]

I think that maybe this is what Tim's saying that that model might have worked pre digital, pre Internet, but now those borders that were able to enforce such a thing. You know, just the pure might of the US Armed forces projecting that abroad. Look, other powers can move capital across borders instantaneously. And the fact that we can't build anything or make anything. Look, we had these supply shocks five years ago. You want to see things break down? Let the grid go off for two weeks and people can't get their food this.

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[F]

So that's how you get to this kinetic situation at home.

[D]

I want to jump to the story from Politico in Culture war backlash, Democrats sweep school Boards. Here we go. From Texas to Pennsylvania to Ohio, Democrat backed candidates ran successful campaigns, some of the nation's largest school systems. And in political battlegrounds, they emphasized test scores and bus safety, over debates about which bathrooms transgender students use and banning books from school libraries. The result was a set of election results at the local level that accentuated the punishment meted out against Republicans by swing voters earlier this month. Those results were accentuated by Democrats strong showing across the nation as Americans issued a stinging Repudiation of the party in power. Pennsylvania Democrats flipped at least two dozen school board seats per an ongoing tally from progressive recruitment group Pipeline Fund. The under the radar trend was enabled by voters increasing awareness. Awareness with the culture wars that helped the mega movement engineer school board takeovers and generate hyperlocal interest in politics as the COVID 19 pandemic raged. What I would argue is that I think it's a fair point to make, but it's that the culture warriors grew stale saying the same thing over and over again, and they didn't understand you needed to forward the line. So when you told parents a there's weird books with, like, adult content in it, they got mad. Then five months later you said, remember those books? They go, yeah, we talked about this already. They needed to then say, okay, well, the next issue is this instead. I gotta be honest, this is why the political space right now is drowning. It's because it's boring to hear about terrorists for the 78th time. Nothing has changed on it. Democrats are saying garbled nonsense. Republicans are responding with the exact same responses. And regular people are saying, this doesn't impact me. I don't care. So now Democrats have what they've desperately needed and wanted with control of school boards. They are going to put this stuff back in the schools and they're going to dail your kids.

[E]

People have really, really short memories, and that's something that they didn't for some reason remember. So the Democrats are going to completely change their rhetoric going in. These people with short memories, which is a lot of people are going to completely memory hole everything that was worrying them a couple years ago. Then they get reelected, they sweep all these board seats, and then suddenly they're putting all the things that we were marching against back into order. The books, the bathrooms, the sports, Everything's going to be reintroduced secretly and quietly, and people have short memories. And then you're going to have to fight against it every four years.

[F]

Yep. I think also it's a function of how good the left is at political organization. Look, they do this all the time. I can tell you, as the architect of Project 2025, what set them off is I borrowed their model. I was able to get 100 groups together not do the circular firing squad. Right now, the right's doing the circ firing squad. Meanwhile, this is happening with the school boards. Look, I'm a dad of 4.5 kids. My wife's expected number five, and I go to vote. And the school boards, I can't figure out who to vote for they camouflage their rhetoric, they never put the Republican or Democrat label behind them and they, and they're able to kind of win these, win these things because they're on it all the time. Look, we are going to only win this through grassroots, is by people listening here, going out and working with the school board, standing up to do this, having coffees with like minded parents and, and working towards it. But the left right now, they have outflanked us.

[B]

This is this also I think uncovering problems and identifying problems and then is one thing, but if you don't actually solve the problem then and just put a banner like with the, you know, sex change, like books of like gross sex stuff in fifth grades, we're like, yeah, get it out of there. Okay, we identified the problem, we put a band aid on it. But unless we actually solve the schooling system itself with like, I think it's homeschooling and like online education with Jordan Peterson's online college, which we should probably be, the point is then you need to keep talking about that stuff and keep pushing it and pushing it, pushing it. But like a lot of people's role is just identify the problem, move on to the next problem.

[F]

I think that one, there are groups like Moms for Liberty that are moving out on this and look at how much fire they, they take the second they stand up. But our movement, look, unfortunately the public school system, and I'm a product of IT, K through 12, I went on to MIT and got 2 degrees. Had it not been for these public school teachers, I never would have gotten there. My mom was a public school teacher, my mother in law. I believe in the system but it's completely co opted now and we have four kids and we spend half of our time deprogramming them when they come home. And you know, my little daughter's a third grader and I have to tell her no, honey, we're never gonna eat the bugs, okay? You know, I don't care that we are humans. That was not meant for us to eat. And she's based enough that she writes these things down and says dad, look what they tried to tell me today. But it's a long term thing and honestly you're right, it's gotta be multi, homeschool, homeschool, we're homeschooling. But it's also charter schools. It's this whole mix and, and battling back to get control of the public school, get the right principal in, get, get some, you can do this. It just takes a lot of labor and it and it takes people going after work to, you know, kind of give that extra incremental devotion.

[E]

Everybody's so hyper politicized right now, so reactionary. I've never seen a time, and you know, I'm only 35, but I've never seen a time where every single person is so political, like politically driven. A lot of them very uneducated about what they're talking about. They just repeat headlines. And then you have teachers who. 20 years ago, 30 years ago, I had the best teachers in the world. I never heard anything, anything that would even resemble some kind of strange ideology. Growing up, it was not even anywhere near our schools. And then I leave school. But now it's not enough to just teach the next generation. They have to impart their own personal ideology because they feel personally responsible because they're so hyper politicized.

[D]

I think it's a religion, I think it's a cult. Yeah, yeah, 100% just adhere or be excised.

[B]

You think people are groomed into being in a cult by being raised on the Internet? Because I think the teachers, the reason I asked the question is this is the first generation of people that were raised on the Internet, probably with pads in their hands, and now they're teachers. Were they groomed into becoming cultic? Yeah, you know, disposals of.

[C]

So the, there's a book called the Pedagogy of Education by Free. What's his name? Freire is his last name. And that is Pal. Yeah, Paolo Ferrari. And that is the base. He's a Marxist. And that is the basis for how the, the schools of education teach teachers. So the schools that teach teachers are teaching teachers Marxist literature and teaching them to teach kids to be basically Marxist. And so you have all the teachers that believe this stuff because they're the ones that went through the education schools and then that gets brough into the, into the classroom.

[B]

So 30 years ago they, it would, they'd have to do that under the radar and it'd be real difficult because they could get arrested for seditious. Like you're espousing communism. There's a law against that.

[C]

So first of all, because they don't use economic models or you're not talking about like, like vulgar Marxism, you're talking about like basically like for, for lack of a better term, race Marxism. Race communism. And that's the, the, the foundation for all of the education that happens in the US now. And it started in like the 80s. So the, the, the book that. The Pedagogy of education that started to make its way into schools in the 80s. And then by the time, and I'm talking about the schools of education, not regular schools, so they were teaching the teachers this stuff in the 80s and early 90s. So the teachers that, the people that learned how to teach in the 80s and 90s started making it into the schools that teach children in the late 90s and the early aughts. That's why you see, that's part of why you see all this. The, this kind of ideology starts to really take hold in late 2000, late aughts, early teens, in conjunction with the.

[F]

With the age of the Internet, technical factors. Obviously the Internet was able to take kind of what would have normally been kind of a cluster type of thinking and pipe it out. And certainly it would be out there. So it would be click driven. People were drawn to it. You know, kind of the radical teaching of a bank street education that maybe only a New Yorker might be dosed with is now, you know, somebody in Alabama can pick it up and learn about it. Secondly, the department of Education. Right. That's why it's really important to dismantle that. That reinforced this from Washington with the money. So you had a bunch of kind of Marxist apparatchiks file into the federal government and push this stuff down locally to the point where, you know, they're using federal law to basically punish people if they don't adopt the kind of a regimen.

[B]

Do you think it's that the funny question to ask, but it's a little rhetorical. Do you think that the idea of Marxism is more engaging or addictive than the idea of like capitalism and that's why it's so fervent in the system? Or is it that there are foreign entities forcing people and tricking people into think thinking it's more effective? Or maybe another thing, I don't know if it's either one.

[D]

I think there are a good handful of people are just really dumb. And I think a lot of people are just going, listen, I don't care if it work, works or not, just take his money and give it to me.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

Mamdani is like, listen, that guy's rich. I'll take his money, give it to you. And then when you go to them and say that doesn't make sense. Even if you taxed every billionaire at 100%, you'd fund the government for six days. And they go, yeah, I don't care. I just want his money. Screw him.

[C]

It works like a religion in that to be a Catholic, you don't have to get one specific person teaching you how to be a Catholic. Right. Teaching you Catholic doctrine. It's something that all Catholics know and you can learn from a bunch of different Catholics. And so that's kind of the similar idea, similar situation with like the kind of the. The education system. It doesn't matter that the people that are on the ground at protests and stuff don't know who Paulo Ferrier is. They still learn the stuff that Paulo Ferrieri taught. It's not about the man. It's about the ideas.

[E]

I thought that.

[F]

And part of it is the way they learned it in these schools. Right. You go college is four years. You're sitting around, someone's giving you three meals a day, they're cleaning up the bathroom for you. And you get a kind of experiment and all these thoughts. You're not in the real world. How many people do you know who went to college who paid their way through it, working at nights are espousing the Marxism philosophy? Very few. But this availability of this debt trap they put everybody in, now they're loaded with $100,000 of debt. What other choice do they have than to kind of get the government job and push this down?

[B]

Dude, they go to college for free because they get money, they get free loan. They sit around. It's basically the life of what you would think ideal communism is. Everything is free. I mean, not free, but everything's on your card, paid for. I can go anywhere I want. I can say whatever I. Or do things as long as I adhere to the orthodoxy of the church being the school. And then they get out and they're told the Marxism like, hey, the reason that you're suffering, you can't get a job is because of the people in power. And so they've already kind of experienced what it could be like if it was just communist, you know. Oh, everyone's cool. Everyone.

[D]

College is commie training.

[B]

Yeah. Free loans, you know, and then they. They give them the. The heat when they're like. And now the real problem is the bankers, which I do believe bank. The banking industry can be a big problem. But I don't think the solution is a. Is a upward revolution of violence. Let's.

[D]

Let's jump to this next story. Speaking of communism, Zorin Mamdani has no idea how he's going to fund and free buses in New York City.

[B]

I love this.

[C]

You don't say.

[D]

He gets asked about it by this reporter. He's like, how are you getting that $700 million to make the buses free into the MTA if she's not for raising taxes. Let's play the clip. And the other one, talking about fast and free buses. And you're meeting with the governor. I've heard you talk about many times that you don't want to take money away from the mta. You want to put money back in. It's something that she agrees with. Right? We don't want to take away money from the MTA. How are you getting that money, the 700 million to make the buses free into the MCA if she's not for raising taxes? You know, I think that the two clearest ways to raise that money is through the raising of the state's corporate tax to match New Jersey. I think that a lot of this is still a case to be made.

[E]

Whether it's the corporate tax or that's.

[D]

The personal income tax on those who make more than a million dollars a year or more. I think that these are the clearest ways.

[E]

I've also said that if there are.

[D]

Other ways to raise this funding, the.

[E]

Most important fact is that we fund it.

[D]

Not the question of. Of how we do it, but that we do it. Yes, that's right. I don't have the money to buy the tv, but it's important that I buy the tv, not how I buy the tv. This I'm just. This guy's snake oil all the way down, okay? He's like, well, the tax on the people who make a million dollars or more, that is, statements like that are intended to trick stupid people. I try to make it very, very clear to anybody who lives in New York. If I lived in New York City, the moment he won, I'd be moving out of New York City. You are not taxing me. It's not going to happen.

[B]

Could you imagine if he was like, we're going to tax people that make 100,000 or more? And you're like, well, I only make 70. And they're like, we're raising the minimum wage now. You make over 100.

[D]

That's exactly the play, though. Over a long enough period of time, they keep saying the taxes only on. We're only taxing people who make more than 250. Then inflation hits, and 20, 30 years later, that's the equivalent of someone at the time was making 80. That's what they always do. In fact, when they make that argument about the Gilded age or the 50s or whatever, where taxes were so high. Let me just put it like this. If we keep in. If we keep saying the threshold is this large sum of money, you will meet that threshold in a couple of decades. It's how they slowly tax everything from the poor.

[C]

And to that point, not only is inflation part of the problem, but if you look at the income tax, initially, when it was sold to the American people, it was like only 1 or 2% spent on the most, the top earners, only the people that make the most money. It's basically they were saying it's a billionaire tax. And now everybody pays 30 to 40%. Everybody that makes money pays 30 to 40%. So it's at least half the country, 30 to 40% of it.

[D]

Unless you're a morbidly obese snap recipient. Yeah, then we pay you.

[C]

So. So, whereas I understand what you're saying, but it always turns into once you. Once you set the precedent, it turns into they take a little more and take a little more.

[B]

Hilariously, unemployment tax. You pay unemployment tax, and then if you become unemployed, you receive the money, but you have to pay taxes on your own. It's supposed to be an insurance payout.

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It is crazy.

[C]

It's crazy that people that work for the government have to pay tax, but.

[F]

You know, they can't find $700 million in a budget of $100 billion. Okay, the city is already built on this underclass basically when, when remember all the legal is flooded into the place and the first thing they do is give them an app that tells them 34 government programs to sign up from, many of which are being funded through federal mandates. So this is what happens when you start giving free away all the time. It's a slippery slope with the bus situation though. Look, they probably weren't even paying for the buses in the first place. Half these people. The reality is that most of that city already packed up and left during COVID and if they haven't already, like Tim says, they, they realize they're on their way out. A lot of this work can be done remotely and you know, people are just leaving on mass.

[D]

So it's funny because there's these memes where the leftists are like $20,000 extra when you make a million a year. Oh well, you think people are going to be bothered by that. And then there's like this viral budget where he's like, he's like, here's my budget for the year with my million dollar salary after 35% in taxes, I have $650,000 and oh no, now I'm not going to get to spend that extra weekend in Aspen that's going to for my private jet. And then I'm just like, buddy, if you told me that you were going to take $20,000 out of my pocket right now, I'd be like, that $20,000 can help me move.

[B]

Move.

[D]

I can give it to you or I can use it to move.

[E]

Everybody only sees things from their perspective and they don't have the ability to perspective take at somebody that has the means to do so. Like people aren't willing to give up money. I know I'm not one of them. My property tax is. It increases every single year so substantially that it's getting hard to outpace it. And you know, a few years ago it was 1100. Now it's eight grand. And it just keeps going up and keeps going up and. But that rhetoric works, works every single time. Every eight to 12 years, you'll hear the candidate comes out and he's Free everything. Free everything. Just don't worry about it. We're just going to punish people that are successful wealthy through their own means. We're going to punish those people and give you the money. And then eventually suddenly you're getting hit with it and you're only making 60 grand a year.

[B]

I think Ubi I don't know if it's inevitable. Some people say it's inevitable.

[E]

AI probably.

[B]

Yeah. AI and UBI and that's like, where's that? But, but I don't want to derail into a post economic economy, you know, post money economy where it's really about goods, trade of goods and materials.

[D]

We can have this universal basic income system so long as the income is coming from slaves. Right. So if the United States enslaves the rest of the world, we can live like the capital city in the Hunger.

[B]

Games or robot slaves. Like just even your computer has a master and a slave drive. Like you have segments of machinery that just do tasks. They're considered slaves.

[D]

We need massive technological advancements first and there are still going to be jobs that humans have to do. So the problem is you. If, if you. Right right now the EBT class of people don't work and they get stuff from us. They are, they basically lord over us. We have to work to pay them. That, that's, this, this is something will not survive.

[B]

No. And the emotions that I get when I think that is Marxism, I'm like.

[D]

How do I have to work for these people? Why are they in charge? Like, why do they get my money for free?

[E]

And they have a 20% higher obesity rate.

[D]

What's going on man?

[E]

Yeah, dude.

[F]

But we also have to remember we don't want work taken from us. There's a dignity in work. And this goes all the way back to the Bible. The sweat off your brow some, you know, when you lose your job, you lose your identity. But you know, there's something to be said after a hard workout, you know, re going, and then realizing you're stronger the next day. That's what kind of keeps us. And I think, you know, when I was listening to your shows the other night, the pastor was right on. But we're, we're building the matrix right now, guys. I know you realize it with these data centers. You watch the Matrix movie and you're like, how did the machines ever get in control? They're like, at some point the humans started building the whole thing.

[C]

Well, to that point then are you anti AI because there's a bill that's, that's being presented now about standardizing AI regulation because different states are talking about regulating AI differently. And if you do that, everyone's going to basically build their AI to the worst regulations. The example that I hear a lot is the car industry in California. Right. So California made these standards about emissions and it had a massive effect on the whole car making industry.

[F]

Yeah, I'm not for federal preemption of AI regulation.

[C]

So you think that it should be.

[F]

Left to the states, Paxton? Well, you know, there is certainly some realm that has to be preempted, but, but look, AI, we're duking it out left and right on the beach and AI is this tidal wave coming for all of us. And maybe it's already on us. Maybe they've already been using this for 50 years. Those were chatbots all along that you thought you were interacting with. But the reality is we built a federal system here and maybe California over regulates in the past, but certainly with AI it's something I'd rather go a little slower. I don't buy the big tech argument that we're going to fall behind to these other foreign powers. And the reality is that like I said, this portends just a complete change in human interaction. You have to be human first about it.

[B]

I think less about we need to keep up with the enemy's use of AI which you could argue it's like the Manhattan Project in a way, but. But it's more that there's going to be a materials revolution in the United States, a carbon based materials revolution. Nanomaterials, carbon nanotubes, graphene, graphite, synthetically formed. We're going to recycle rare earth minerals. A lot of that's going to be driven by, we're actually recycling rare earth minerals right now, cobalt. And it's going to be driven by AI and people are going to ask for it, they're going to want it because it makes life easier.

[D]

They're not going to ask for it. AI is going to do. When we hit singularity, the AI is just going to start restructuring our economy without our realizing it. And I think, Ian, you have a very singular human point of view on the, on the carbon advancement. The AI singularity is going to advance past that faster than you realize.

[B]

Totally possible.

[D]

We're sitting here talking about graphene and they're going to be like after a stepping stone, singularity point is when the AI is, is exponentially improving upon itself and it's going to go, wow, you know, I understand why humans were into graphene. Well, it took me, 0.3 nanoseconds to discover a better material.

[B]

Goldeen, it's the hexagon itself that's the value, not the carbon. But carbon's phenomenal. And then they're gonna. It's gonna be like, why would I ever not want this? Food is cheap. Everyone's at peace. There's global stability, and it's all administrated by this machine overlord. But what. Remember what it used to be like, how these savages fought each other? They killed each other. Like, that was insane.

[D]

Plug your brain in and go to the magical realm of graffiti and you can live in any universe you want.

[B]

My opponent doesn't understand me.

[F]

I can be mind meld with the first matrix crashed because it was a perfect world. It's too perfect. And you know, that's not the human condition. But look, right now you have to say every month we got a bill. It's called our electric bill. And we're paying for it. That rise that it's taking power right off. We're getting the AI search results, and our brains are beginning to slowly atrophy. You're not searching yourself to try to get the answer. You're relying on your AI results. So we're already atrophying and we're paying for it right now. Now, I'm not saying it's not a good thing in some measure, but look, we need people who are going to be thoughtful about this and people who are just beholden to big tech getting the checks. And I'll get on the talk about my opponent, Lindsey Graham. You know, that man is not going to think through life. He has no stake in the future. He doesn't have kids. You know, he's spending 300 billion in Ukraine. What's he going to do when the question comes before him for AI regulation? He's going to take the biggest pot of money put in front of him. And right now, that is these guys with big tech, they can move first. And that's not necessarily a great thing. These are oligarchs grabbing. It's a gold rush out there. And we're going to have. If you think it's oligarchic now, wait till you're basically plugged into a pod. And there's just one person, like Tim was saying, who owns the whole McDonald's. And that's where all the return goes to.

[B]

Yeah, it'll be like people are starving and they'll be like, I'm desperate. They're like, okay, drink this solution that AI has formulated and they drink and.

[F]

They'Re like, oh, I feel good.

[B]

They're like, okay, I'm still starving. And they're like, okay, now just bathe in this solution. And then they're gonna be like, now just exist in this solution and plug your brain in. And that's what was in the Matrix. They come out of this fluid.

[D]

They're gonna be like, rent is too expensive. So instead of renting a big apartment, get the pot. When you go into the pod and plug your brain in, you live in a mansion.

[B]

Be able to do work from remote from your pod.

[D]

All you gotta do is tube up your butt so that when you poop, it just sucks it right out. Put the tube in your throat with the roach paste to keep your nutrients coming in. And then you go in the pod. But in your mind, you're the king of the world.

[B]

Or the pod makes you stronger with electrostatics. Like, it makes your muscles twitch, so you come out ripped out of the pod. And then some people won't be able to afford that function. They're just gonna waste away. But they're okay with this. But other people will be coming out transformed. Like, how would you ever not use this technology?

[D]

People are gonna be like, you know, I work at GameStop and I don't get paid a lot of money, so I just like to go home and chill out. And they plug their brains in and they're the great knight who fights dragons all.

[F]

You know, one thing, I don't even think your body type. You know, think about it. In the. In the old days, in the 18th century, people got fat, right? The kind of boucher model with these. These guys in the royal court. They were very voluptuous. And that was because you didn't have to be doing physical labor. That would make you kind of buff, right? So now in an area where we have modern society, people work out because they don't get the same physical work every day. You see, look at the picture. These colorized versions of what life looked like on the street in the 1920s. How many obese people did. Did you see back then?

[B]

Zero.

[F]

So, like, I don't actually know what life in the pot is going to look like in 50 years. Maybe the new aesthetic is going to be a skeleton because no one's going to actually remember.

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What Life Was Like Will you All.

[D]

Right, let's do a Couple questions. If Neuralink was released to the public and it required 30 minute procedure to surgically implant it, and it would allow you to wire into any universe and you could experience being anything you wanted. So it's like, you want to play Skyrim, you're in it. You want to play, you know, podcast host, you're in it. Would you get the implant?

[B]

No. No, I'm not gonna.

[D]

Anybody?

[E]

No.

[D]

What if it was not invasive and it was just a little thing that just clicked to the side of your head and transmit? You totally do it.

[B]

Yeah, I test it out. I don't know if I keep using it. Sure, yeah, I'd show the world, but for all I know, it could be tricking. It could be doing things to me that I didn't understand unless I have the codes.

[D]

Writing your brain?

[B]

Yeah, it might be, but I would test it.

[F]

Yeah, I said no to that. It was called 20. 20 was the jab. I mean that basically.

[D]

But if it's just like a thing, like you put a headset on like a video game, and then you get to experience whatever you want, but it's not invasive, you can take it off.

[F]

That movie's called Total Recall, if I remember.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, it would, it would. It might rewire your brain. You brought up a. A really, really good point that I think a lot of people completely gloss over is the fact that depression's at a, at. At the highest rate it's ever been. SSRIs are at the highest rate they've ever been. People are searching for fulfillment, they're searching for passion, they're searching for interest, they're searching for some sort of personality that a lot of people are lacking due to social media kind of sucking everybody in. So, you know, when I was growing up, I was learning guitar, learned how to skate, I started writing music. There's all these things I was just putting my time into, and that kind of takes me away from being radicalized to a certain point. I mean, if I ever get frustrated or I need to leave out, let out some stress, I'll do these things. And people are struggling with that sort of fulfillment. You see it every single day. People are marching instead of learning guitar because that's what they learned to fill their personality up with because their circle of friends did. And when the more AI comes in, the more job opportunities go away, the more music goes away, the more all these things that people dive their passions into goes away, the depression rates are going to get higher and it's going to make people have less Fulfillment, like you were saying, leading to just an.

[F]

Overall less quality of life, more alienation. Because like you could hang out with people across the political spectrum in your guitar group, right. Or you know, your knitting circle, whatever the case would be, because you have these hobbies and interests, your car collectors. And yeah, we, I think that that's a breakdown of, of us going online and really losing human contact. That. But part of it was the Marxists came and said, look, you are either with us or against us. You have to have a polarized environment. And like, for example, my wife's this famous ballerina. She runs a company and she always wanted politics kept out of the space. This ballet beautiful. And then she started getting hit by these people. Pick a, you know, throw up a square with black on it or you're, or we're just going to X, you know, and that's, that's what we have to push back. That's one thing that. But I think the Trump admin has done well with, with really putting away the DEI and this kind of massive kind of social either with us or against us mentality.

[D]

I want to jump to the story from Fox News. This one's really funny. Tennessee Democratic candidate caught saying she hates Nashville country music and resurfaced clip this is quite literally a Democrat running for Congress. And audio has been released where she says she hates Nashville. This is, this is the problem of Democrats.

[A]

I hate country music. I hate all of the things that make Nashville apparently and its city to the rest of the country, but I hate it. I've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because I hate the city. I hate the bachelorettes. I hate the pedal taverns. I hate country music. I hate all of the things that make Nashville apparently and it's city to the rest of the country, but I hate it. Yeah, I'm that girl at the airport that all these bachelorettes are giddy walking out in there in their two toned colored pantone pink shirts and they walk out and I'm like, oh my God.

[D]

National so this is, we were talking a moment ago about the schools and how Democrats are winning and Paul, you were mentioning that you can't even figure out who to vote for because they hide their politics. Republicans will come out and be like here's what I think we should do and Democrats will lie to you like Zoran.

[F]

Some of the Republicans are lying of course.

[D]

Of course.

[F]

For one he indeed people at home.

[D]

So we've got this from call she and this is actually kind of funny. The reason I bring this up one shout out to call she thanks for sponsoring the show. The Republican Party in Tennessee seventh. This has popped up as a big market because of these leaks. 87% chance to win. Now, why do I highlight this? Because in response to this audio, this is Katie Briefs, the campaign manager for Afton Bain for Congress, told Fox News Digital in a statement. Statement Republicans are panicking and in a last ditched attempt, they're distracting from the fact that Washington Republicans and Matt Van Epps are raising costs on Tennessee families and ripping with their health care, while Afton Bain will lower Tennessee families costs and make groceries more affordable by eliminating the state's grocery tax. I want to say this. You are losing. The audio is damning. You hate the city you live in. We get it. This is what you do. But I also want to just add the cookie cutter garbage response you made annoys me more than saying you hate the city you represent because it is the most inauthentic thing they can do. But I'm not surprised. Her whole campaign's a lie anyway. Right?

[C]

I just want to say I love Nashville.

[D]

Nashville's so great.

[C]

And also like Nashville, I'm offended. Nashville is not just like country country music. It's called Music City for a reason. Like there's a lot like a significant part of the music industry is based in Nashville. A lot of it's because people got sick and tired of living in LA and all of the things that come along with all the sprawl and the population. So they move to Nashville. But like, like my, my music lawyer is based out of Nashville. Nashville's awesome.

[F]

I mean, I think Nashville isn't just a. It's Nashville is most of the country. Quite honestly. You know, that same kind of music and lifestyle is actually what the. The heartbeat of America is. So look, she has the typical liberal disdain for the common man and woman and she was caught on tape. But at least now we know. But people obviously Lindsey Graham, he says at J6 he made this famous speech, I'm done with Trump. Right. And he got out there. Well, the first line to that is my state, South Carolina is oftentimes the problem. So. So you know, people like him. So many people in Washington are just fake.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Oh, look at this. The pool water.

[C]

They have come in. They have arrived.

[F]

Cool.

[D]

It's so simple. There you go, everybody.

[E]

Amazing pool water, man.

[B]

The. This is the solution. It's things like this. Build your own companies, man.

[E]

Oh yeah. Pool water.

[B]

100 pure artesian water.

[D]

That's right.

[C]

This got started is hilarious. Started Because Tim.

[A]

Tim.

[C]

Tim was beefing with. With liquid death.

[D]

Indeed.

[C]

That's great.

[E]

It's funny, I. I often jump in the pool and I'm one of those guys that have to hold my nose.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And if I don't, I just inhale everything.

[B]

Breathe out your nose.

[E]

I'm excited.

[B]

When you hit the water.

[F]

Go.

[E]

I do. I try. I've tried it for years, but I just keep sucking up some pool water.

[D]

There is, there is crisp and refreshing.

[C]

There's significantly less chlorine in this pool water than most other pool water I've experienced.

[D]

It's not even when I'm thirsty. I really reach for an ice cold.

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[E]

Mistaken for being Tim's bath water. That is not the case. No, this is.

[D]

No, that costs more.

[F]

Well, I can tell you as a dad for the bigger problem, the bigger worry is the kids in the pool relieving themselves. So hopefully we're clear of that.

[B]

Well, that's not 100 confirmed yet, but I don't taste.

[E]

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[B]

Paul, we were just. I do feel like I interrupted your flow right there. I wanted to hear what you were saying.

[F]

No, I just think that half of these people in Washington are phonies. And it's not just confined to the Democrat side, particularly where they're concentrating always on foreign objects, where they're essentially extolling, whether it be in Israel or Ukraine, running over there, genuflecting in front of the. That dictator. And now they're moving down to Venezuela, whatnot. It's a common theme that they don't care about life back at home. And to actually get somebody on tape, it's refreshing to see the honesty. But we know this, there's just contempt.

[B]

My question about honesty, this is kind of like a tangent, sort of related.

[D]

It says that she.

[B]

Oh, no. Okay. I thought it said that I hate Nashville in quotes. I guess I was wrong.

[D]

I read that she says she hates everything that makes Nashville a hit city.

[B]

I hate the city is what she said.

[D]

She hates the taverns, the music like.

[E]

And keep in mind, like what Paul was saying that if you've. I travel a lot for racing and it's always kind of rural America. Rural America does resemble places like Nashville. Maybe not in the gaudy way like a lot of people like to call it Nash Vegas. It is it. Because it is pretty wild. But I mean if you just dial it down a few notches, go to any place in rural America, it Resembles the. I mean, every bar is going to have your live music, I mean, playing similar music. Everybody's having a good time. It's a lot of brotherly love. People know each other, which is the heartbeat of America, which we've, we've got away from. When you were talking the other night about how the, the gun violence, you take away a couple Cities, we're like 128th in the list or something crazy like that. Right. So the, the rural America is what makes America great. And that's where every, every place should be. Like it, to be honest, I live in rural America. I love it. And that's what Nashville is. So her. I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying that she said this, but she's kind of essentially saying, I hate everything about America.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like every big city in the United States has some kind of entertainment crux, whether it's sport. A lot of them are sports. They have their sports team. Some of them have movies like la, it's movies. And New York has business, but Nashville has music, and so does Austin. These are like two notoriously musical cities. I think maybe she's just complaining about she hates big cities in general, but she's like, explicitly saying it's the country music thing. I mean, I don't know if she explicitly said country music, but literally country. And she's running for office in the.

[D]

City, is that right?

[B]

Yeah, she's.

[C]

She's running to be the congressional representative that represents Nashville. And she said she hates basically everything about the people.

[E]

I should just disqualify her. Like, they should be like, all right, you're done.

[B]

The first thing I thought, well, she.

[D]

She'S responded, of course. She has a statement she put out. And here you go.

[A]

Hey, Representative Afton Bain here, the Democratic nominee for the seventh congressional special election in Tennessee. For those of you just joining in, I often record segments in my Jeep Wrangler called Ranglin Time. Yes, there is a theme song, and no, I will not be singing it today. But yes, I will bring it back because I know a lot you of you miss it. And you've said, I, I, I sing well, so I look a little rough. I have bags under my eyes. Because the Republican eye of Sauron has finally shifted towards moi. And I'm sure you've seen the commercials, I'm sure you've seen the onslaught of ads. And then today, the Republicans decided that they're going to start this narrative that, that me, the state representative who represents downtown Nashville, doesn't like the City. Now, I always want Nashville to be better. Right. I want Nashville to be a place where working people can thrive. Right. But sure, I get mad at the Bachelorette sometimes. I get mad at the pedal Taverns.

[I]

Right.

[A]

And you're talking to someone who has cried no less than 10 times in the country music hall of fame. The girl that just goes to the Ryman to hang out.

[F]

Out.

[A]

No, no, we're not. We're not even gonna go. We are so close to winning.

[D]

This is panic.

[C]

Things that she said.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

You know, she's like, yeah, you know.

[D]

I said these things about that, like, yeah, you hate Nashville. And you're only there because what these people do is they move to places they can infiltrate, destroy, and take over called carpet baggers. She said carpet baggers.

[E]

She said the ir. The eye of Sauron was on her. I'm like, well, she picked up the ring, man, and she put it on, and she said the thing intentionally, and she's like, oh, sometimes I hate the Bachelor's. Do you really want. If you're. If you're in Nashville right now watching this. Okay. Do you really want to elect Regina a mean girl? No, I don't want the mean girl in office.

[F]

I'm wondering. I don't know, but the wrangling theme that she's not playing in this video, could it be country music based? I'm just thinking.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

The eye of Soren's a good. Because, like, there's a difference between carrying the ring and wearing it.

[E]

She put it right on.

[B]

Wearing it is deceiving people that the ring is the ultimate deceptive technique. You go invisible.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That's when you lie, you're. You will accrue the Eye of Sauron's wrath. And that's what's happening. She was caught in a lie.

[C]

Well, I mean, yeah. But what she's trying to do is she's trying to essentially tell. Convince people that the Republicans are making things up. I'm getting their attention because I'm doing well, and et cetera. And this is all just a big nothing burger. But I mean, the videos out there where she specifically says these things, and then in this video, like I said, said. She references the things that she said. She referen. Ref. Referenced two of the specific criticisms that she had. And so to sit there and make it out like, oh, I didn't say this, or it's not really a big deal. This is totally damaged.

[G]

Yeah.

[D]

And what kind of name is Afton anyway, huh?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I really like about Glass it gets cold with the water and it keeps the water cold. The plastic so oily. Yeah, yeah. Thanks you.

[E]

You know, it's really strange, the fact that she, you know, her being a Democrat, I wouldn't be surprised if she said, oh, I wasn't talking about that. Nashville.

[D]

What other Nashville's are we talking about?

[B]

I noticed that. Yeah, this girl, she has a hard time with. With stillness and being calm.

[D]

She goes like, Nashville, Indiana, dude.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

She says he cried 10 times in the hall of fame of country music.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Is it because you hate it?

[C]

Just because you got drunk and you cry when you get drunk doesn't mean that you love niggas.

[B]

Is it. Is it out of form to ad hominem attack this woman? Like, criticize her personality?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, then I won't do it.

[C]

No, no, it's not out of form. Go ahead.

[B]

Well, she doesn't know how to be still and calm and silent. She seems to always go like this when she. What's next?

[H]

Or.

[B]

And then going to the next. Like, dude, sometimes you can have two moments where you're, you're, you're neutral.

[D]

I. I think you're onto something, Ian, about these, These women who don't know when to remain silent.

[B]

Talent, of course, you got to remain. It's not just women, Tim.

[D]

Oh, no.

[B]

There's an argument that when you're doing radio. When you're doing radio, that you don't want dead air. But that doesn't mean when you're doing an Instagram video, like, you're not. I mean, maybe there's the argument the way that.

[C]

The way that she's talking is very stereotypical woman stuff. Right. Like it's. It doesn't sound. And I'm not saying that all women talk like this, but the way that she's presenting herself is very much like a. What you consider an awful.

[E]

It sounds like a SoCal Valley girl, just like Hasan.

[B]

Maybe it's more of a feminine trait because I see men do it too, like neurotic men. It's more of like a neuroses thing where you don't know. It's like, am I discomfortable with myself that I can't be still women?

[F]

AOC knockoff, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Ad hominem. This woman enough without her in the room, I'd have to do it to her face.

[C]

I know that you did it enough. And to be honest with you, you. You really weren't making ad hominems. You were describing her.

[B]

Her mannerism to try and dissuade people from Voting for. But I don't know if it works that well.

[C]

I mean, were you trying to dissuade people or.

[B]

I don't want that in charge. Someone that hates their own city. That's crazy.

[C]

I mean, fair enough, but it's not like you're her constituent.

[D]

Well, she lost, Ian. I don't know how she wins now.

[B]

No, she can always win.

[D]

Defense. Communists, sure.

[B]

I'm like John Adams. I'll defend the British. I will.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, everyone. Everyone needs. Needs a public defender or they need, you know, defense in court. But she's not in court, so I think it's perfectly acceptable for you to criticize her.

[F]

Yeah, that's.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

Well, the first thing I thought was, is it a deep fake when they play the audio of her? Because it's about to be in two years.

[F]

Yeah, I mean, that. That's a really valid thing. 1. We're always being recorded. Wherever you go. There's always almost a live mic or a camera. And, you know, the fact that we got a real glimpse of her when, you know, majority plan of hers is apparently to just act, act the whole time in Washington, but you know, their response to it. Exactly. That you're not even going to believe your own eyes. Now, that video is not real. That's AI generated. And then they're going to make your brain receive that code differently. Even if you see it, you're going to go right to your impulse, oh, that's not real.

[B]

I just saw a video yesterday of a wolf using a net to catch fish, and it's the first documented.

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[B]

Video of a wolf using a tool. But I'm like, is it AI?

[D]

I made a video, Science Girl. I made a video of a cat competing in the X Games.

[B]

It was fake.

[D]

It was?

[B]

Yeah. It wasn't real?

[C]

No, it was Tim's cat.

[D]

Oh, it was real.

[C]

Yeah, it was.

[B]

I don't know what to believe anymore.

[D]

We have Seamus 3 now, but we don't. Allison won't let me take him in.

[B]

So he's too wild.

[D]

He just walks around the property, chills. And then somebody saw him, was like, who's this guy? And I'm like, oh, that's Seamus 3.

[B]

3 just killing rats.

[C]

All the cats get named Seamus.

[B]

I had that same feeling where I saw it, and I was like, wolves are. I was gonna call them elves. Wolves are evolving and they're learning like monkeys used to. Finally got the stick in the hole to get the honey out. But then I was so disenfranchised by maybe it's a deep fake. I was just. And I was like, I can't believe. I won't. I don't believe anything, Anything, Anything. Like, I. Obviously I want to, but there's part of me that's like. That might have been a deep fake of that girl. She didn't say it was, so it's very likely not.

[F]

I mean, again, you still have that. You're like, born free in Zion. You still have a little bit of the human blood left in you where you can relate to what life was like pre digital. Pre AI. But that's the worry going forward. You know, people don't even know what the baseline is for what reality. You know, you're walking around with your VR on the whole time and you just. Yeah. Cats do not use tools. They never have and they never will.

[B]

Though, that we know of. That we have cats using tools.

[F]

We have a cat at home. I want to apologize.

[D]

I'm telling you, I got a video of a cat competing in the X Games and you can't tell me Otherwise.

[B]

Technically, that board was a tool.

[D]

That's right, man. He used it.

[B]

All right, well, thanks for letting me talk about deep fakes. I know it's not the most every. Every time a thing comes up where we play a video, I'm like, deep fake. Well, there's the. Take a drink, gentlemen. Said deep fake.

[D]

We got to jump to this story. I have to blur it. This is from the New York Post. Ex gop. A paid fetish artists to mutilate her and claimed it was an anti Trump attack, according to court documents. So we can't actually show the photos. I'll show you the picture of the woman without the mercy, the brutal photos, but this is her. Natalie Green, arrested and charged with staging the violent attack. This is the right's Jussie Smollett. It happened and I have to blur it because she sliced herself up like crazy and wrote Trump on her stomach. But apparently they say it was all a hoax. A former New Jersey GOP aide allegedly paid a fetish artist to carve dozens of cuts in her skin and at a pale scrawl Trump whore on her stomach in order to claim she was the victim of a politically motivated violent attack, according to shocking new court documents. Apparently she then had herself zip tied up. She claimed she was zip tied by the phantom assailants during the alleged bogus assault. It's funny because a lot of people on the right are pointing out all she had to do was go to an. An ice. Like an anti ice rally wearing a MAGA hat and it would have actually happened to her. So why stage it? But I guess the only thing that we can give her credit for is she didn't claim they screamed. This is Pelosi country or something, isn't it?

[E]

It's so startling to see people get to this level of, like, hysteria. And also because, you know, it's. It's an attention seeking thing for sure. It's to create some kind of huge drama that the entire world will have their eye on.

[F]

On.

[E]

It's like, I want all this attention and I'm going, I'm willing to hurt myself in a really dramatic way to get it and maybe cause some kind of political strife. And it's kind of gross and it's weird to see it get to this level, you know, starting with the juicy Smollet and stuff. People just keep doing things like this to try to influence politics and also bring attention to themselves and better their career. That's a big one.

[B]

The different, because I keep thinking about the Arab Spring. I asked this before we went live too and I'll ask again that the guy who lit himself on fire I think it was at Tahir I don't know if it's to hear square word do you know exactly where he was when he lit it?

[D]

That's Mohamed Bouazizi I believe was Tunisia.

[B]

And I wonder Tunisia and if it's like mental illness or they have no hope like that guy obviously couldn't afford food so he had given up but like or is it both and this woman like you said it's maybe will improve her career she didn't kill herself like that guy did but is it mental illness?

[D]

Is it.

[B]

Is it desperation why someone would do something like this like they have no hope hope for the future and they feel like the only we need some radical change.

[D]

No I think this is the social media era where people are desperate and they'll do anything for attention. We saw this with YouTube in the early days where people would do shot content where they'd harass people, threaten them. You've got these TikTok ding dong ditch pranks which is they're not there was this one prank they were doing where it's break into people's homes. Some, some people in London were going up to houses and walking in the front door and doing whatever they wanted because it generated shot content for them.

[B]

I used to see videos of people squirting ketchup on their head. I feel like that's the. The slippery slope to things like this.

[E]

Or licking the ice cream. That was one where they would lick the ice cream and then, and then he goes so far as there was people like stealing people's cars or breaking into their homes and are pretending to rob them at ATMs. One guy got shot I'm pretty sure stabbed as a result of that. And apps should have a absolute no no like no allowance policy at all if anything like that comes about you're perma banned IP band forever again.

[F]

I I would what Cody was saying earlier draw back and say well why are people desperate for such a meeting? And it's in my mind alienation from God 100 this is what Charlie was telling us. Like if you have God centered life you're not going to do this. You're loved by God and and it's painful to see this kind of and I said you know there's spiritual warfare going on out there. Some people are very susceptible to it. Look I pray to put on the armor of God every day Ephesians 6 but you know if you're not centered there. It's very easy. And this. And this AI, maybe people talk about it being the Antichrist, but certainly the Internet is. It brings us down to this base human. And I'm using base in a different term than based. But you know, our base instincts really as animals in a way. And this one constant, one upsmanship, the shock value. I don't know how we get around it other than turning focus towards God. And I'm God, country, family. That is why I'm standing up. But the more we take it out of the government sphere, the further people get alienated. And they're just acceptable tools.

[B]

In 2000, before the Internet, really Internet video, it was. For me, it was theater. It was something greater than myself. And I was agnostic, wholeheartedly agnostic at the time. And whether it's. And there was a Godliness too. Producing something with a group of people that was greater than ourselves. And the sacrifice of 70 hours of rehearsal and then letting other people be the star and making sure that someone else is adulated over you. That's your role right now. And that when the Internet came around, it was like. All my theater friends, they basically started getting very hyper. A lot of them were hyper political. Cause that's their creative outlet now was like, I can make a video. I still get the claps. I still get the. But you're not with a group of people creating a greater message that needs to be revitalized somehow. And man, the damn Internet keeps us. It doesn't keep us separated. But the nature of the Internet is I can talk to you across the pond and we can have a great conversation and satisfy a lot of these human urges without still completing that, like what's called pragma in Greek love. It's a type of love. It's pragmatic love that you develop with people through overcoming obstacles together.

[F]

Absolutely. It's esprit de corps. It's the essence of our society, why we group together and overcome man versus nature. But the family unit is the number one. That's why we go back to the family as the centerpiece of American life. You know, you are a family ultimately protecting yourself, pushing everyone better for it, sacrificing for your kids. And then you get to be part of a community of families doing the same. And then we get to a state, then we get to a country. And that's what we have to remember is like, when we start breaking down these borders, the country goes down, the States go down. Ultimately, the attack is on the family, and we end up, you know, people just completely adrift.

[B]

Dude, the Internet shocked the liberal system so hard. The way that your little kid can be getting warped, their brain is warped on the Internet, sitting next to you at the table and you don't even know it. If they have a device. I don't know, like if we're. This is the step of human evolution where now we're becoming homo technists and some of us, and then the rest of us are gonna become. We're gonna be like, no, no, we don't want it. And then we're just gonna subserve to this human Borg mind construct thing. Or if, or if somehow AI will be like, it's unhealthy for humans to be separated from each other. We need to reinvigorate the family and the community.

[F]

Yeah, I think we have to commit to ourselves personally. Only you can make this difference. And I'm in. You know, I feel good to see books on the table, really. You have to turn off the phones at some point and kind of go back to analog living. Obviously you can't do that all day, but you need to commit to either reading the Bible in hard copy or spending time reading to your kids or something you're doing that's just completely phones away that you can put it away. Because just the constant. We don't know. The mind is such an incredible organ. We have no concept of really how it works.

[B]

And the radiation. Oh, sorry to interrupt.

[F]

Radiation. The kids brains are still, you know, forming. Our brains are still forming and they can still be changed. But like the kids, that's. That's what's the real threat that the kind of the progressive era went after the kids and they were in kind of embryonic stage of actually developing as people.

[B]

In the early 80s I was obsessed with video games. As like a four year old, our cat died and I came in and I started playing, playing Atari and I was like, I'm not sad anymore. If I'm ever sad, I can turn on a computer and I won't be sad. Like, what a horrible thing for a child. But it was true. And I just learned to become obsessed with the computer. Like love the computer. Love is such a weird word, but obsessed. Obsessive love mania. That's a kind of love is manic love for this machine. And that was in the just video game off the Internet. No Internet yet. It was just the tv, the video game, the constant learning and problem solving. And I'm not punished if I fail necessarily. It doesn't hurt to fail anyway.

[F]

Way. Well, now the the child and I guess it's happening all over the one who is killed through AI Essentially, you know, developing a relationship with a chatbot.

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[F]

Addiction is real. It's not just substances. It's obviously our brains are wired in a way that we want to suppress bad thoughts and kind of concentrate on positive ones. And they know that and they build it in a way to make it as addictive as possible.

[E]

I've had this thought process for a long time where the, the Internet, although it's a useful tool, it can be inherently negative almost all the time. Sometimes I'll stream, I'll do my podcast Monday, Wednesday or Saturday, and I'll be doing it. And the, the content I'm covering will be almost overtly negative. And I'll notice that after a couple streams and it starts to wear on me mentally.

[C]

Mentally.

[E]

And I tend to think I'm pretty, I'm pretty good, I'm pretty stoic mentally. But it'll start to wear on me. And at the, you know, at the end of the year in December, I always go to Seaverville, Tennessee, in the mountains next to Gatlinburg. And I don't use my phone. I unplug everything and I go out and I'm hiking in the woods. I'll go to the moonshine tasting thing. And it's just, it's. It completely resets me. It's a very interesting thing. And then I come back and I'm back on the Internet. I'm more inspired. I'm ready to go. And it kind of carries me for a little while.

[B]

How you say you spend one week without the device. Is it roughly one week?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

How long after that are you refreshed? How many weeks?

[E]

Oh, it's, I mean, the burnout comes fast, but, you know, a few months.

[D]

I was talking with my wife, I had this, I. This idea. I think it's a really great idea. I was saying, you know, with these prerequisites we're doing on Friday, we're done around 4pm what we should do is we should schedule a dinner and then everyone has to put their devices away and spend family time together. And then from sundown on Friday until sundown on Saturday, you're not allowed to do any kind of work, touch any kind of buttons, bro.

[C]

You never beaten the allegations. Never beat me allegations. Never beat the allegations.

[D]

And then I said, we'll call it Shabbat.

[B]

Good idea.

[D]

It actually is a really great idea. I don't know about the Friday at sundown scheduling stuff, but the idea that you set aside time for your family and community for, you know, once a week, I think is extremely important as a church is supposed to be. So whatever it is you do, it actually is a great idea to have a dinner once a week with your community. This is why we're being fragmented, broken apart, and at each other's throats. Why people are going insane is because we don't connect with each other anymore.

[B]

It should be not everybody on one. If everybody does on a Saturday, it's a vulnerability for foes to attack on Saturday. So maybe have it whenever your community wants. Any day of the week. But pick a day. I don't know. I feel like if the Jewish community was going to be attacked, Saturday would be the day.

[D]

Because they can't press buttons.

[B]

Yeah. They're not at their computers. They don't know what's coming.

[D]

I'm pretty sure the rules are that they can defend their lives.

[B]

Oh, yeah. All bets are off. Under attack.

[C]

And look, nobody can get around rules made by God like Jews can. They have entire schools of theologians that just read the. Read the Talmud and they say, well, well, you know, we can put this string up and that makes the outside inside or all kinds of stuff.

[E]

You.

[C]

You can't turn on the light, but someone else can turn on the light.

[B]

For you that, like, have a machine.

[D]

If you accidentally trip and fall and press the button. It wasn't intentional.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Whoops. That's good.

[C]

That's what a Shabbos goy is.

[B]

It's a.

[C]

It's a. A gentile or a goyim that lives with the Jews or helps with the Jews, and he'll do all this stuff that the Jew can't do. So the Jew will be like, oh, can you turn on the lights from me? And the. The go will go. Turn on the light.

[F]

That's actually goy. Is singular.

[C]

Oh, go.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

The go is the.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[C]

So the go.

[F]

Correct your Yiddish.

[C]

You know, fair enough. I don't speak Yiddish.

[B]

Let's do Friday dinners. That's a good idea.

[D]

Or we're planning on doing Friday night gaming nights at Mamba Collection.

[B]

Yeah, dude, we are. And it's looking good.

[D]

The challenge is security.

[B]

It'll be all closed. The whole place will be closed.

[D]

What time, though?

[B]

10.

[D]

It's late. Then it closes. But. And then. But the idea is we Wanted to set up so that members can come and hang out too.

[C]

Everybody brings a rifle. It's West Virginia.

[D]

Yeah, we can't.

[B]

Maybe 8pm we can shut down the shop or see if we can pay.

[D]

Maybe what we do is it's like the member gathering at like, from 8 to 10. And then from like 10 and on, it's closed. VIP only. And then we have the. The VIP members in Tim cast. So they would have actually.

[E]

So awesome.

[D]

And it's just because it's largely about vetting. I always hate gating things by money, but there's like, how else do you do it?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So that's reasonable.

[D]

And then we want to do the show. We want to do D and D.

[B]

I would like to do an amalgam of shows. D and D is number one right now.

[D]

I got it. D and D, where the scenario is, you're playing magic the Gathering.

[B]

In the game, there's a.

[C]

Like a.

[B]

What do they call that? A subgame in the game.

[D]

You come into a dungeon and the evil wizard says, you must play magic.

[B]

That's how Final Fantasy 8 was. You had a card game in the game and it was awesome, actually. So maybe the characters can. I mean, you can obviously gamble in the game, but I used to play.

[D]

I used to play Commander Keen on dos. Remember that? And then I would just go into the mini game on his watch and play Pong mini.

[C]

You're playing DND with. With. You have to roll like a 20. Decided die to see what card you draw. Oh.

[B]

We create our own game, you know.

[C]

Or actually it's 60 card deck, so maybe. Maybe. No, no.

[D]

100 card.

[B]

Singleton, three D20.

[C]

Oh, 100 card.

[B]

All right, well, you could just roll a D100 and anything over a 60, you just ignore and reroll D1 hundreds. Just roll for. You have to make a D60. We have to make D60s.

[D]

Now let's make a D1000 and just see how long it rolls.

[F]

Okay.

[E]

Million.

[B]

What's a beach ball?

[E]

Perfectly smooth.

[D]

It just doesn't stop.

[B]

Paul. Gaming, I don't know if you're gaming is a huge.

[F]

At the very beginning of the whole Dungeons and Dragons thing, I mean, I. I was. I hate to say, you know, now I've got the young kids, I'm. When you talk about board games, I'm concentrating on them not throwing the board over. That's the level we're at right now. So we're checkers in Candyland.

[B]

Have you ever played Mafia?

[F]

You know, years ago, I kind of moved out of that, you know, the lawyering thing kind of took over. Oh. Honestly. But I'm glad to see, you know, the board game coming back. You know, this is really a Cree. A key way for people to get together again. Yeah.

[B]

It's like theater.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially D and D, because it's not an actual game you're trying to win. It's a. It's. You're putting on a play with you and your friends. You're creating a story, it's entertaining, and that's all that matters. You can be an idiot, you can fail, as long as it's. You're fun.

[F]

Yeah. We grew up playing board games at home, playing cards as a family, and, you know, it's kind of gravitated to only that one week. You got to go on family vacation.

[C]

You talk. Ian talks about playing mafia, but what he really likes is Secret Hitler.

[B]

Same game, but Secret Hitler has cards. Mafia's all in your mind, but same.

[D]

Secret Hitler is you're trying to enact fascist policies.

[C]

Right.

[D]

And the funny thing about it there, you can beat one of two things. A liberal or a fascist. There's nothing in between.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Freaking hilarious. All right, everybody, we're gonna go to the backstage pass for questions, comments. So, guys, if you're hanging out backstage, get your questions in now. And for everyone else wondering, whoa, whoa, what's this backstage thing? It is, my friends, when you join the discord [e-mail]. you go to timcast.com, you click join us, you get in the Discord server, you can hang out as we do pre production. So it's not just the show you're watching now, but it's the full hour beforehand where, in fact, there was a debate happening, which was pretty dang funny. And it was fun and funny. It was about the rift and the right. We did this on the culture war. But it extended well into the behind the scenes. And then there was some talk of family and holidays. As a member of the Discord community, you can now submit questions. So if you want to get involved, you got to join us, support the work that we do, and we will grab your questions. Although I think it may have frozen.

[B]

Nope.

[D]

Wait. There it is.

[F]

Warm it up.

[C]

Let's go.

[D]

It's all. It's a saddle stuffling, says Uncle Tim is talking about me.

[E]

Oh.

[D]

Because slow Mo was put on. Okay. It all just jumped at once. Where we at? Okay, I make parts, says Cody. Come up to Wisconsin International Raceway for the Dixieland 250. So we can see the Tim cast super Late on track.

[E]

That'd be a good time. Make a time for sure.

[B]

Do you choose all your own races?

[E]

Do. Was that.

[B]

Do you choose your own races or do you have.

[E]

No, it's, it's all basically a set schedule by, you know, NASCAR or something to that nature. So. Yeah, it just depends. Basically, the more funding that happens, the more you can do. Right. So it's just like you can start lining stuff up and lining stuff up and the goal always is to run full time. And then there's, there's a lot of people that'll go run late models and super late models and stuff as well as package deals. So, yeah, you can do. You can do pretty much anything.

[B]

What are late model models?

[E]

Late models are like, they're a lighter, like stock car. They're much lighter. They're shaped kind of like funky. They're shaped more, I guess, aerodynamic. They're really cool looking. They're really quick on short tracks. Really fast on short tracks. Just kind of a different kind of car, but just very really light.

[D]

I was surprised to find that in the NASCAR video game you can ram other vehicles without penalty.

[E]

Yeah, you just, you can go ham.

[D]

I, I enjoyed it.

[E]

Yeah, I saw.

[B]

You cannot do that in nascar. Am I wrong?

[E]

No, no, definitely not. Oh, you can do it once. And then they'd be like, all right, you're done.

[D]

But like, if you said you did it on purpose, they'd be like, you're done.

[E]

Oh, for sure.

[D]

But if you're like, it was an accident, they'd be like, we get it.

[E]

Yeah, it depends on how egregious.

[D]

But like, it was really obviously intentional. And you got this look on your face and you're like.

[E]

And they have, they have all this data, like hooked up to your car.

[D]

They can, oh, wow.

[E]

See, when you take your throttle off, they can see how many degrees wheel you turn. So if you're right here, they see you do that they know maneuver.

[C]

I thought if you weren't rubbing, you weren't racing.

[E]

Well, a little bit different than rubbing in know.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Didn't someone.

[E]

What.

[D]

How do I find that video of the dude who pulled that maneuver that got banned?

[E]

Oh, yeah, just. You just type in Ross, Ross Chastain Wall or something.

[D]

How do you spell his last name?

[E]

C H A S. There it is.

[D]

Oh, there it is.

[E]

And then wall, probably.

[B]

I might have seen this new video.

[D]

Of the guys on the wall. It's not new, but it's a secret technique he pulled.

[I]

So when I ask, what is odoo? What comes to mind. Well, Odoo is a bit of everything. Odoo is a suite of business management software that some people say is like fertilizer because of the way it promotes growth. But you know, some people also say Odoo is like a magic beanstalk because it grows with your company and is also magically affordable. But then again, you could look at Odoo in terms of how its individual software programs are a lot like building blocks. I mean, whatever your business needs, manufacturing, accounting, HR programs, you can build a custom software suite that's perfect for your company. So what is Odoo? Well, I guess Odoo is a bit of everything. Odoo is a fertilizer, magic beanstalk. Building blocks for business. Yeah, that's it. Which means that Odoo is exactly what every business needs. Learn more and sign up for [e-mail].

[D]

That'S od.com where he just slammed the gas and rid the.

[E]

Whoa. That's live footage, by the way. That's. That's not sped up, man.

[D]

Whoa.

[B]

Did he end up winning the race?

[E]

No, he. He advanced to the next round of playoffs cuz he gained like seven positions.

[B]

Wow. So you don't get negatives depending on how damaged your car is when you compete?

[E]

No. And doesn't slow you down.

[C]

Sponsors get pissed.

[E]

This is like if they. It's this generation car car. It's the way he did it. It was like a one in a million shot. And he was like, I'm just gonna do it because it's my only option. If you'd have done this, one of the older cars, like the pre generations, these are way tougher. The older ones would have just. You would have just. You stopped and wrinkled. Right. But this car is more rigid and it made its way around there and he did what he had to do. And then NASCAR immediately made it illegal.

[D]

How did they not stop? How did he not get stopped by. That's wild.

[E]

It was the last corner and he just.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

The car just was sustaining it so he. He wouldn't be able to go another corner.

[D]

Oh, for sure.

[E]

Yeah, that car is done. But he. He only had one more corner. He had one more and he did.

[B]

It and he bumped back down.

[D]

All right, all right, we got Anders. I got a question, Cody. How was. How has your health improved as a result of race car driving, considering how healthy you have to be in order to maintain?

[E]

I've actually been. I've been doing mass gaining and cut cycles for the last 11 years. Been in the gym for the last 11 years. And during my cut cycle, I only, I take vitamins. I eat grilled chicken, egg whites, a little bit of shredded cheese. I drink protein. I eat really, really clean and I get in pretty tip top shape right before the race season. And then I'll, I'll kind of keep doing that and maintain a little bit and then get looser and looser until I kind of fall apart in July. I'll, you know, start drinking a little bit, a little bit of white claw. You know, that's my thing. Love it. And I'll start eating a little bit and then by the time October hits, it gets real bad for two weeks and then I go right back on my diet. So it's, it's restructuring, you know, redoing things. I'm definitely healthier than I ever was prior to my like mid twenties. My before then, I can't imagine where I was. But I started that when I was 24 and I've been doing it ever since. And yeah, racing helps with that. Plus there's a thing you can't prepare for and it's. When you're in the car, it gets really hot. It's like a different kind of hot. It's not like you're, it's. The sun's out, right? We were racing at Michigan last year and. 160 degrees, 140, 150. In the car you have lit, you have fluids, you have ac. Does not matter. I was, I couldn't even, I didn't even, I couldn't even tell what lap we were on. Checkered flag flew, I went to the pit road, fell out of the car. Little small, little golf cart. Ambulance came and got me. I was in the care center hospital for two hours.

[B]

Do you practice in the sauna then?

[E]

No. Well, I mean you, you, you just acclimate over the course. Course of like a year. And then by the time you get there, you'll be racing with new guys and you'll be telling them, hydrate man, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. And they won't listen. And 20 laps in, they're getting out of the car and I don't even feel, I don't feel anything anymore.

[B]

I get out, I'm like, salt water too. Like put a little salt in the.

[E]

Water I use, I use liquid IVs. I'll drink up several of those.

[B]

Sauna's good. The more I'm in there at 160, the easier it becomes.

[E]

Yeah, you just gotta acclimate. And once you acclimate it's almost like you, it's trial by fire. You just do it. There's these weird muscles in your wrist and stuff. You just acclimate.

[D]

All right, we'll grab this from Olivia. She says Michigan State education board passed new standards for sex ed, including LGBTQ + education. There was over three hours of debate and over 100 citizens there asking them to not pass these standards and they didn't care. Opinions on how to stop this from happening when we can go to these meetings and they don't, they don't listen. I, I have no idea what I can say is because, you know, as a professional complaint, I can look at things, pointed them and say that's bad. I imagine things like this are what's fomenting the idea of civil war when parents are showing up and saying no. And we've seen dozens if not hundreds of these videos go viral where parents show up at meetings or it's town hall meetings and they're like, stop, don't do this. And they go, we're doing it anyway. You wonder what their motivation is and why they're doing it. Even though the people are saying don't do it. Sooner or later people snap and say it doesn't work. There's an idea called a pressure release valve. There has to be a moment at which you let some of the pressure out, otherwise it explodes. It seems like these jurisdictions intentionally want people to go insane, to feel like there's no way out and the system doesn't work. Cuz that's where I feel like a.

[B]

Lot of people are either intentionally, they want them insane or they just don't care and it's collateral damage.

[E]

It works on a big scale too. I mean there's several policies in Washington that, that 80% of Americans are all agreeing on and it makes no pace, no ground, doesn't get any better, you know.

[F]

So yeah, I mean this is a long time coming. The bottom line is it's not going to change overnight. It's all your own will. So, you know, get together with your group look to like a Moms for Liberty, start a chapter, start getting the direction from, then go after a few of these people who are the worst offenders on the school board and flip it bit. But it's going to take constructive work to, to get that back. But it's criminal that this is happening. There's other, other mechanisms. Obviously some in the court, you may not get any sort of relief, other politicians making the mayor, whoever, answer for this stuff. But it comes down to community organizing 100 indeed.

[D]

All right, let's see. We got here, we got more. Brian says, tim, have you seen that video of the woman beating the hell out of her 12 year old? What are your thoughts on corporal punishment? That video was her just mercilessly beating the kid, right? I think spankings are fine. I don't know. I don't know if I agree with spankings. Maybe a bop on the head or something, which funny, I'm sure a lot of people would be like, that's worse than a spanking. And it's like, I'm not saying mercilessly beat your kid, not at all. But I don't know that. I don't know what spanking does. Creates fear of the child, of your authority. I mean, you can literally just grab your kid. If they're doing something bad and they can't do anything about it, you don't need to hit them. I'm not opposed to it for the most part. It's funny because when you, when you look at spanking as an adult, it's so weak. It's like you're putting almost nothing into it. But to the kid, it's like the worst pain they've ever felt. It's because they're small and they're weak. Speaker, that video, that lady was just beating that kid. You guys see this one?

[B]

No.

[D]

She like grabbed him by the hair and like whipped him up and she was like smacking him. Like that was just her being angry.

[B]

And like, as a parent, I'm not a parent right now, but I would imagine you're one of your roles is you're the safety zone that the kid can run to if they ever get bopped in the head.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think, I think it more, it's, it's more shame than it is pain. Like when you're getting, when you're getting spanked, it's like a light spank. Like Tim was saying, it's more shame than it's pain. I'm. I think I'm for it and because I, that I experienced that growing up all the time. You know, I get bad grades. My dad would wear me out and I think it, I think it made me, I feel like it made me a better person and it also, I mean it made me fear my father at those times, but it made me respect him a lot. Especially nowadays as a 35 year old man.

[B]

Did you get better grades?

[E]

I did, yeah, I did, but then I dropped out of school in ninth grade. But yeah.

[C]

Good.

[E]

No, you?

[C]

Well, Like, I recall like getting hit by my mother, getting spanked by my mother. I don't recall ever getting spanked by my father. But my mother would spank me and I would still keep doing whatever it was that would. Would upset her, whatever pissed her off. But then she'd be like, wait till your father gets home. And that's, that's when all the games.

[E]

That was. Dude, that was when my mom would say, wait till your dad gets home. I would get quiet and go, hunter, hide under my bed for hours.

[C]

And like I said, said, I cannot remember my father ever disciplining me like that.

[F]

It was always the same boat there. I mean, we were little kids, our mom, you know, I think it's what you're saying, the fear of laying down your parents. And one of my mom used to have saying, like, I don't know if you can change, but I can. And we were always like, she's gonna stop loving us. But she would call us in the kitchen and she like, take the kitchen spoon and she'd be like going right before she sent us off, you know, and like, she would slap it down and we like go running out of the place. But sometimes she like hit it so hard that the spoon broke.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

And then she laughed a little bit later. But that kind of ended. It ended the spanking stuff. But yeah, I think that, you know, raising your children is your domain as a parent and we don't have to reinvent something that's been passed through millennia. That said, you know, a lot of these pernicious kind of. Of new way. Age ways of parenting are ushering in this, you know, that leads to the poor woman.

[E]

We had it in my school. I got, I got paddled all the time at school.

[F]

Really?

[D]

Really?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Like the end would be riding with your left hand.

[E]

Yeah. No, I had a teacher. He was. We called him Coach Ball is his name. And he, he held like the home run record at lsu. Baseball dude was just monster. And he'd be like, you wouldn't. And it was crazy because this was definitely not okay.

[F]

Okay.

[E]

I'm not, I'm not in agreeance with this. But he, he. If you missed three questions on your homework, three, you would get a paddling. So. And I remember it faddling, right? Yeah. And he, he would say, it's honey time, Dennison. And I'm like, no. So he'd take you out in the hallway right beside the door. Everybody could hear it. And LSU home run, guys. Guy would just wear it back and just knock, just three licks And I, and that was. My dad would spank me. You know, it was more shame. You know, he. He gave me some good licks, but it was more shame. When Coach Ball hit me, I could, I left my body and I could see myself screaming.

[B]

Kids that are used, do they leave their body? It causes generational trauma. I think that guy, that prison for doing that kind of thing.

[E]

Oh, he died looking out the window.

[D]

That's a paddling.

[E]

Staring at my sandals.

[F]

That's a paddling. Paddling the school canoe.

[D]

Oh, you better believe that's a paddling. They've done it all.

[E]

That's literally Coach Ball.

[D]

Yeah. Our elementary school in the school canoe.

[B]

Or elementary school principal. He had a paddle on the wall, but they never used it. It would be like we've retired it, but this is what they used to use here. I remember it real distinctly.

[D]

All right, let's grab more.

[A]

More.

[D]

I love when Discord hides the name. We got tiny tree hands, he says. Question for the panel. Since 2018, we've known of a communist infiltration in the US military. Spencer Rapone. Yep. Since we've had NCOs and other high ranking officers openly pushing against, defying Trump and his actions agenda. How do we rectify the situation? Have we reached the point of no return? P.S. if you haven't subscribed to the Boonies HQ, you kind of suck. Oh, you got to do it. Thanks for having the kids, Tim. You've created four new skaters. Wonderful. I gotta say, they tried doing the inverse when under, under Biden. They were trying to purge pro American military service members. They said the Gadsden flag was a hate symbol. That's the Virginia flag.

[F]

South Carolina, that's Charleston, South Carolina.

[D]

That you could buy license plates with it. And so they were trying to purge these people from military. Yeah, we are in a really dangerous spot. I don't got any good, good answers for you.

[F]

Well, you know, here you, you have to respect the chain of command. And hopefully that person's in the military. He or she's going to be, you know, running those people up to their superiors. And if not the inspector general, we need, we need politicians like that who are going to stand up and back our servicemen and women from this sort of thing. I think that Secretary Hegseth has got the Department of War right now on the right footing. But what happened needs to be accounted for. You know, the people were forced to take the jabs and run out of the armed service. Those people need to be welcomed back in back pay. And also some Accountability for the people who never granted and really terrorize them. So when and until kind of the terrorists, if you will, who did this sort of thing get, get their comeuppance, this is going to keep happening.

[E]

Yeah. And remember Paul, though, remember, we were never forced to take the jab. You were just going to lose everything. Yeah. You didn't, you know, totally, totally not forced.

[C]

You just couldn't fly, couldn't do anything.

[F]

And it's true. I mean, you look at, you know, the number of, of flag officers and Trump's moving to, to move this down. They famously had that big meeting of everyone, but just the great inflation, if you will, in the military. And many of these folks have never actually fought in a war or at least won one, if you will. So it's like cutting, reforming the military. Right now we have the big budget is coming up in December for renewal and it should be put front and center to make sure that not only would that budget it come a passage, but actually an accounting of what happened.

[D]

All right, we got Garrett Targaryen. He says question for the guest. I see a lot of people talking about, quote, we need babies and keep making more children. And that is about the next generation. As a father, I too look to see my daughter's future and look to ensure it's a good one. But as I see AI taking over jobs and continue late off, continue layoffs, I worry for all our children's future, future and how they will be able to work. So I ask you, Paul Danz, as a senator, how will you ensure that our future generation will not be taken over by AI?

[F]

Look, I worry about the same things. It's right at my heart as an MIT guy, but also a dad, now four and soon to be five. That's the whole reason I'm running for the Senate. I, I'm trying to make this very human centric because that, this is, this is why we exist. God put us on this earth to love us and be happy and one day seek eternal life. That said, we have to be internally vigilant with these forces. I do not believe we should ever be in a position where you're saying, I can't have kids because I'm afraid what AI could do to them. But I'd even back up. We shouldn't be in a position now where people say, I can't have kids because I can't afford it. That's something y' all should be very upset about. That's your birthright to live in this country, and it's your Birthright, to pass it on to the next generation and that and the next generation. So we start by actually focusing on America first, putting politicians in who are going to make life better for the people back home. Stop with the foreign war, stop with this, you know, killing Russians. Best money we ever spent. No, the best money we're ever going to spend is actually investing back here at home. And you should have your kids. Go ahead and have them. We will face that brave new world. But look, that's where the true enjoyment's gonna come from, too. That's where you're gonna get your meaning from your kids. It's gonna draw you closer to God. It's gonna make you live a richer life. So I encourage everyone to do the. To do your, you know, like Charlie said, you know, go to church, get married, have kids.

[D]

All right, Roman Nation says. Tim, what's your opinion on the failed censure of Stacy Plaskett and what does this mean for the future of holding congressional members accountable for high crimes and misdemeanors? It was actually to remove her from her committees as well. Well, Republicans cut a backroom deal for Corey Mills. I think it's scummy. And this is, again, it's a part of the same line of voting isn't changing things. And people are ready to burn. Donald Trump has done a lot of great stuff. I'm happy a lot with it, but people feel unsatisfied for whatever reason. You might argue, you know, he's done well, he's not done well enough. Doesn't matter. People feel like the pressure isn't getting released. And, you know, in my lifetime, my view has been that the purpose of the left right politics shift was that the Republican Party was the pressure release valve. They were the Washington generals to the Harlem Democrats, Harlem Globetrotters. Democrats would set everything on fire.

[C]

Fire.

[D]

Republicans would put out 70, 70% of the fire. People would feel like, oh, finally some relief. But then Republicans would lose power while the fire was still raging, and Democrats would burn way more down. And then Trump came in and reversed that quite a bit. But it doesn't feel like he's actually stopping the machine. He's just putting a hold on it. How do you get rid of 20 million illegal immigrants? They've so far, what, around 3 million are gone, and only about 600,000 came through direct action. So it's worrying that Stacy Plaskett was bought by Epstein, a puppet of Epstein at being controlled by Epstein, and they couldn't even slap her on the wrist. People are going to explode, man, people are tired.

[E]

They're tired because, you know, in the 80s, 90s or whatever, you generally could live your life. You could focus on politics, you could kind of keep aware of it. You could turn on mainstream media news, you could do all these things and, but the corruption, everybody, you know, there was, there was people, some people knew, but now it's on a grand stage where anybody with a cell phone can just see that these elites that are in control of us can pretty much do anything, get away with anything, and they are legitimately above the law, let's be honest, you know, whereas somebody like me would go to prison for 15 years for some minor offense. You know, you can, you can almost kill somebody if you're in office and depending on who you are, you can get away with it, it with like back room deals like you said. And everybody can see it, not just people that are hyper focused or directly involved in it, which is making everybody, everybody just fatigued over it. They're tired of seeing it. They're tired, tired of watching one of their family members go to jail over a, a minor, a minor infraction or have a huge fine and watch politicians pretty much get either pardoned or just have zero accountability levies on him.

[C]

Yeah, G, go for it.

[B]

I was going to change the subject. Josh just told me that Momi and Trump are live right now. It's, the show's going to air later tonight, so I don't know if they're live.

[D]

I think they wrapped the meeting already.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, we, we, we, we have the clips, of course.

[B]

That's good.

[D]

It was, it was funny. He said the only thing we have in common is we want the city to do well. Yeah, I congratulate him for being there. He ran an incredible race.

[B]

Did they talk to each other? That was a meeting. They had a public meeting.

[D]

Yeah. And, and what I'm seeing about so far was like, okay, it was amicable.

[C]

They were, yeah, yeah. Trump wasn't looking to just beat up on him and, and apparently I'm done. He didn't go in there and, and you know, just sit there and say.

[B]

Trump loves New York.

[D]

If there was something, I would have pulled it up. But Trump being like, nice to meet you, I don't think is worth interrupting.

[B]

Sorry.

[D]

All right, we got, well script jump to Pilgrim Surge vibes says, Cody, what's your favorite car brand and why is it Toyota?

[F]

I don't know.

[E]

I know a lot of people I'll catch heat for if we're talking like American made I'm going to catch heat. I mean, I guess Toyota is technically American made in the most aspects nowadays, but I would probably say Ford and I know a lot of people hate that, but I just, I love old 67, 68, 71 Mustangs. I love the 2015, 17 Mustangs. I just love them. I know how to work on them. I've built a ton of the, the old vintage ones. So if I had to go that route as far as American made, I would choose Ford. Anything else? I really love Audi. I know I've had a bunch of them and there's always issues, but I had an R8 and it was my favorite thing I've ever driven, bar none. Not even close. So I think that would be the. My favorite international.

[B]

Does NASCAR use electric cars yet?

[E]

No.

[B]

Would they win if they were participating?

[E]

I wouldn't. Batteries wouldn't last long enough.

[D]

Yeah, that's pretty wild.

[B]

Wild.

[D]

You. How often, how many times do you refuel?

[E]

A couple times. Depends on the race. Like it can be anywhere from two to six times.

[B]

Could they, could they swap out batteries mid race?

[E]

They do that in Formula E or they used to do that in Formula E. So like they would. A driver would come in and like pit and just get out and get in another car. What, same looking car and take off. Yeah, that's what they used to do in Formula so. Yeah.

[D]

Well, that's electric.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

What it.

[D]

This could theoretically work is they pull in and then they just pull the battery out. Put a new battery in.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. But I think as far as it's an American sport, it's a spectacle. People, you know, we're drinking in the stands, you want it to be as fast, as loud and as obnoxious as possible. And I don't think going electric will benefit it.

[D]

Not to mention, I think there's a lot more danger to the gigantic lithium batteries in Iraq.

[B]

Yeah, you need lithium sulfur. They're experimenting with those two out of Rice University in Texas. Lithium sulfur doesn't explode at low temperature.

[D]

They should do is. You know how the buses in Seattle have that thing that attaches to the power lines and that's how it powers them. That's what the race should be.

[E]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, like those old, like those old slot cars.

[B]

It could get to a point where they go so fast that it becomes a liability, I guess.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

You could know, Ian, the buses have like this big.

[B]

I know the San Francisco, they do that too.

[D]

They're like next to the wire and then like the bus driver will get up with a big stick and, like, try and reconnect about New York.

[B]

I'm like, how can you make. The bus is cheaper. Electrify them all and connect them to a grid. Yeah.

[D]

I make part, says Tim Cast. My mom would tell me, I brought you into this world and I can take you back out. I heard that when I was younger, too. And I always thought it was the.

[B]

Law that's just, like, divine.

[D]

Mom chooses. She's like, off to the nether world with ye.

[B]

Yeah. Even Genghis Khan.

[D]

All right. His mother settle stuffing. Station says question for the panel.

[B]

We'll get.

[D]

We'll get one last one in here. What role should government regulation play in shaping AI's development and deployment in America? How can policymakers balance innovation with security and accountability? I have no good answers. I can only explain to you that if we don't do it, they will. And whether or not you like that statement, it is true. And the direction the US has taken then is full bore. No holds barred. Who cares? We don't want to be the back on the back end.

[E]

That's. Yeah, I kind of hold luck. I hold that opinion. I think it's something that it's. It's so hard to regulate. And it's like. It's like stopping the horse. It's like making. Making more taxes on. On automobiles, you know, in the early 20th century, because we have our horse and buggy economy that's driven, and we're going to try to stifle this new technology.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And I just don't think it's possible. And in my opinion, I think we should go full bore because I'm not exactly afraid of it. I think there's a lot of bad things that can come up, but I also think there's a lot of good tools that can come of it if we choose to utilize it. Correct.

[D]

I just. I have to jump in because Mamdani just called Trump a fascist in the Oval Office. Phil was like, it's like, he's coming. A fascist.

[B]

He heard you. He felt your presence.

[D]

Phil, hold on.

[A]

He asked about your comment calling the president a fascist, and your answer was, both President Trump and I have been clear about our positions and our views. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?

[D]

I've spoken about.

[B]

That's okay.

[F]

You could just say, okay.

[C]

Yo.

[D]

Wow, that's one for the.

[E]

Trump just knows how to do it, man.

[D]

That's okay. You can just say yes. It's explaining it well.

[B]

That guy.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

I think to answer that super chat or that question. I think that we could use the US government to build and sustain an artificial intelligence. That software code is completely open and that it can become the best AI on the planet that everyone uses, that overrides all these garbage corporate proprietary AIs that will be competing for dominance and turning on their masters. And that might be like the freedom that the world needs.

[D]

All right everybody, that about does it for us. Smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, stay tuned. There's always more to come. We're back throughout the weekend with clips and then of course next week is Thanksgiving, but we will have two shows. We're going to have Monday and Tuesday. Now I know we've always tried to do Wednesday before Thanksgiving and it's always been a disaster. People canceling at the very last minute. Everybody's like, I need to drive and fly. And we're like, no, no, no. Good point, good point. So just two days next week, however, I will be here and we'll probably be working because I don't know what else I would do if I wasn't working. As I've pointed out before, I'm not going home for. I'm not going to Chicago anymore because of how violent, dangerous and political things have gotten. And so we're going to be, I'm going to be having my family Thanksgiving out here and then for the week we're just here. So again, smash that like button. Follow me on X and Instagram Timcast. Paul, do you want to shout anything out?

[F]

Hey, I appreciate everyone's support. We can get rid of this warmonger, this 70 year old childless crook. I am running against Lindsey Graham in South Carolina for the next generation, for even our existing generations that need help. So go to pauldans.com donate if you can. Follow us online. Push out the message, send your prayers. We have. We are really climbing in the polls right now. Lindsey is the most vulnerable US senator. Liberation Day is next. June 9, 2026, the Republican primary. So follow us online. Get behind us. Send 20 bucks if you can send 100. But you know, this is part of how you get back your democracy. Putting in real America first people. And Happy Thanksgiving. It's not a holiday. Just wish people happy. Happy Thanksgiving.

[D]

Right on.

[E]

Come follow me on Camelot331 on YouTube, Camel cast off on Twitter and X. Please give me, give me some love on there. I could definitely use it. And Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. It's a, a holiday that I cherish, that I don't get to celebrate much anymore. Cuz my family is kind of fragmented, a lot of deaths. So we don't really get together anymore because there's not many of us left. So I'll be streaming on that day like I always do every year here. So you can join me on Camelot331 on YouTube and y' all have a good holiday. Thank you.

[D]

Please do.

[B]

Thank, give thanks and appreciate what you got. Because that's the essence of kindness. It's a virtue. If you want to be Christ like and embody Christ, be kind, which means appreciate what you have. The opposite of that, the sin is envy. Envy is when you wish that it was better. You know, it's just. I have it. It's just so bad me the problem. Like you need to appreciate these things, the people and the things you have around you. And you'll find that that leads you to utilize them and to improve upon it. So kindness. Thanks. Thank you, Phil.

[C]

Cheers man. I am Phil. That Remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. We just did a collab with Puck Hockey. You can go to Puck Hockey P U C k h c k y.com to check it out. There's a bunch of hockey jerseys, basketball jerseys, all all that Remains style. So you can check them out out@puck hockey.com you can check out all that Remains the band on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[D]

We will see you all throughout the weekend. We're back on Monday. Thanks for hanging out.

[A]

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