AOC Says WOKE IS CRAZY, Preps 2028 Run w/ Gavin McInnes

Summary

Timcast IRL Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Title: AOC Says WOKE IS CRAZY, Preps 2028 Run w/ Gavin McInnes
Date: August 11, 2026
Host: Tim Pool
Main Guest: Gavin McInnes
Panelists: Carter, Phil, and Tate

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Episode Overview

This Timcast IRL episode dives into the implications of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) declaring the "woke" era "crazy," her openness about freezing her eggs, and discussing a possible 2028 presidential run. Tim Pool, joined by Gavin McInnes and other regular panelists, unpacks AOC’s ambitions, the cultural fallout of “wokeness,” gender roles in politics, demographic decline, fertility, birth rates, economic pressures on young Americans, and the lasting impacts of Boomer policy. True to Timcast IRL’s style, the conversation is sharp, irreverent, and peppered with biting social commentary.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. AOC and the “Woke” Era

• AOC Distance from “Woke” (00:04–00:30): Tim highlights AOC's joke about “Woke 1” being “crazy,” implying a “Woke 2” is now at play. The panel notes how progressive figures are retroactively disavowing the most extreme excesses of the social justice era.

  • [Notable Quote – Tim, 00:04] "AOC says woke one was crazy, which is funny because it implies there's a Woke 2... you can tell that voters do not like whatever that was."

• Political Calculations about 2028 Presidential Run: The panel theorizes AOC’s recent moves—publicly keeping her options open, announcing her pregnancy/egg-freezing—as strategic groundwork for higher office (00:11–00:46).

2. Egg Freezing, Fertility, and Cultural Myths

• AOC’s Egg Freezing Announcement (07:00–13:00): The hosts probe her public disclosure about freezing eggs, connecting it to messaging about prioritizing career over family and reflecting trends in millennial/Gen Z life.

  • [Notable Quote – Tim, 24:44] "This idea that a woman could be 36 and freeze her eggs and get pregnant later is fake. It's just not real."
  • [Notable Quote – Gavin, 25:46] "35 and older is called a geriatric pregnancy. You're wheeled into a separate part of the hospital. It's a big deal."

• Societal Lies and Consequences: The group discusses widespread cultural “lies” about fertility, delayed parenthood, and the social cost of prioritizing career over family, comparing popular narratives to biological facts and sharing stories of regrets (27:51–32:37).

3. Can a Woman Win the Presidency?

• Debate on Gender and Electability (08:00–16:30): The episode delves into whether America will elect a female president. Tim argues women face an uphill battle due to deep-seated cultural biases, and recounts both studies and anecdotes about voter behavior.

  • [Notable Quote – Tim, 08:55] "When you feminists said sexists would not elect a woman, I went, oh, I think the feminists are right about this. AOC can't win because she's a woman."
  • [Notable Quote – Gavin, 10:09] "If we are ever going to get women to choose a woman, it's this election… but if they can, that time is coming up."

• Charisma and the Modern Candidate: The panel agrees that charisma and image—over policy or gender—often determine modern elections, with celebrity-driven press tours moving betting markets (11:04–11:15).

4. The Biological and Social Roots of Modern Fertility Decline

• Birth Rates, Career, and Urbanization (29:39–40:06):

  • Dives into how high-achieving men and women wind up childless (“IQ shredders” in major cities), the diminishing returns of prioritizing career over family, and looming social consequences.
    • [Notable Quote – Gavin, 31:34] "New York City is an elephant's graveyard for ovaries. Do not go there, ladies. You will end your lineage forever."

• Comparison to Idiocracy, Wealth and Demographics:

  • The group riffs on America and the world trending toward “Idiocracy”: low-fertility elites and immigrant groups with higher birth rates shifting national demographics.

5. Gender Dynamics, Politics, and Culture Wars

• Women, Power, and Sexuality: The anti-“woke” backlash, gendered expectations, and the material and sexual preferences of women are dissected, veering into contentious gender generalizations and red-pill dating commentary (55:27–66:57).
  • [Notable Quote – Tim, 63:40] "That's the S test, man… My whole life when I've had women say dumb woke things, I would just be like, that's stupid. Yeah, that's dumb."
  • [Notable Quote – D, 65:07] "If you're agreeable, that's, like, really off putting to women... women do want disagreeableness because that shows that if something is wrong, they will address that directly."

6. Economic Pressures, Generational Gaps, and the Housing Crisis

• Boomer Accumulation and Gen Z Struggles (80:16–97:47):

  • The panel weighs the economic legacy of Boomers, record homeownership, and contrasts with Millennials and Gen Z squeezed out of the housing market and unable to build wealth.
    • [Notable Quote – Tim, 91:47] "Young people have no homes. They can't get married, they can't have kids. The boomers are like, it's mine... One society will do well by their young people... our society is going to take from them and they will not flourish."

• Predictions of Housing Market Collapse: As Boomers begin to pass, inheritance patterns, urban migration, and legal restrictions on institutional home buying could cause rural housing values to nosedive (93:19–97:47).

• Advice to Young People: Dark humor and practical tips—crowding into houses, saving aggressively, adapting—if they want to survive and eventually build a future (100:24–105:13).

7. WOKENESS, Media, and Social Amnesia

• Revision of Recent History & “Woke” Packaging (46:12–50:07):

  • The episode ridicules the left’s attempts to memory-hole the more unpopular aspects of “Woke 1.0” by rebranding and claiming it was just “bad messaging,” not bad policy.
    • [Notable Quote – D, 49:18] "She's just saying it was a packaging issue. Like, nothing was off about the policy."
    • [Notable Quote – Gavin, 48:17] "It also absolves her of guilt, too. Like, that was Woke one... Oh, yeah, Driving that machine, my dear."

• Cultural Double Standards & Media Myopia: The hosts bemoan a society where open debate is censored by algorithmic moderation, advertisers, and a culture infantilizing adults (52:03–55:03).

8. The Collapse of Social Trust & Surreal News Cycles

• Media Echo Chambers and Outrage Addiction (108:20–116:34):
  • The show lampoons social media audiences who form opinions based on soundbites, the cycling nature of internet debates, and how attention spans have collapsed.
    • [Notable Quote – Tim, 111:01] "People live in a world of news cycles and they don't explore the headlines beyond them. That's, that's my point."

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On AOC’s Political Calculations
  • "I believe this indicates she's actually had more than just a conversation about this, probably some kind of planning." – Tim (00:08)
• On the Futility of Egg Freezing Late
  • "IVF is not particularly successful at those ages. The only thing that makes sense is that she wants to have a kid when she's 45..." – Tim (23:35)
  • "This is why women need the patriarchy, because they're better off with us in control…" – Gavin (24:44)
• On Women and the Presidency
  • "She can't win because she's a woman." – Tim (08:00)
  • "If a woman can win, AOC can win." – Carter (10:30)
• On Social Amnesia and the Left
  • "She says Woke 1 was crazy, implying Woke 2 is here, which is still nuts." - Tim (46:12)
• On Generations and Housing
  • "Gen Z will finally be able to buy houses… as boomers start dying, the value of homes is going to collapse like crazy." – Tim (93:19)
  • "Boomers are at the mortality cliff. Life expectancy is 79 and boomers just turned 80..." – Tim (93:19)
• Advice for Young Americans
  • "Your education is useless. It's the most expensive education in the history of education… move to rural Indiana, move wherever the job is and make babies." – Gavin (103:57)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:04–01:00] – Intro: AOC and Woke 1/2, episode framing
• [07:00–13:00] – AOC’s egg freezing announcement and cultural implications
• [08:00–16:30] – Gender, electability, charisma, and voter biases
• [24:44–32:37] – The biological truth about fertility and birth rates
• [46:12–50:07] – Leftist revisionism and “Woke” branding
• [80:16–97:47] – Housing, inheritance, and Boomers vs. younger generations
• [108:20–116:34] – News cycles, internet outrage, reading beyond headlines

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Episode Tone

The conversation is energetic, provocative, often tongue-in-cheek, and heavily opinionated. The hosts blend hard data, social commentary, and irreverent humor, frequently pushing back against mainstream liberal narratives, “woke” orthodoxy, and what they see as generational and gendered social engineering.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

If you missed the episode, you’ll get the best of Timcast IRL’s signature blend: searching political analysis, scathing social critique, salty humor, and no-holds-barred culture war debate. The episode is a deep dive into both the personal and political strategies of high-profile progressives, larger trends around fertility and gender, the intergenerational struggle for economic survival, and the pitfalls of groupthink in modern media.

Transcript

[A]

AOC says woke one was crazy, which is funny because it implies there's a Woke 2. And it's also. Well, it's also funny because you, you can tell that voters do not like whatever. Whatever that was. Now here's where it gets great. Gets crazy. She's. She's open, she says, to a 2028 run. Here's the thing, a 2028 run is not possible unless she's already been having conversations right now, because you have two years and a primary is coming up and a primary takes longer than just a year to start. Planning and fundraising, there's exploration before announcement. So I believe this indicates she's actually had more than just a conversation about this, probably some kind of planning. She also publicly announced she was pregnant to freeze her eggs, which is another indication she's planning on not having a family with her fiance, who I think they've been engaged for four years now and just not married. She's intending to work for a long time. But we'll get into that egg freezing stuff because this one's really important. And I just got to say, I, I think that's, it's. I, I just don't, I don't find it to be. Well, I'll be very careful, but I think it's not real. It doesn't, it's not effective. It doesn't make sense logically. We'll talk about that. Mamdani has been forced to stop his Peter tear tax pulling down his doxing cuz basically all the libs got mad. That's funny. So we'll talk about that and a lot more before we get started. We had a great sponsor for you. It is keeped.com IO. Check out keat k e e t.IO/timcast irl this is a. It's a. It's a messaging app, right? Here's an uncomfortable question. Why should your messaging app need to know anything about you? Most of us have already accepted that technology companies collect enormous amounts of information. What we click, where we go, what we buy, who we interact with. That information is valuable because your attention is valuable. Keat takes a radically different approach. Keat is a free messaging, file sharing and video calling app built peer to peer. There's no centralized company database holding your conversations, no metadata tracking, and no phone number or email required. Your messages are end to end, encrypted, and move between the people in the conversation. Your private life shouldn't be another crop in somebody's data farm. Visit keatio/timcast IRL download it for free. Invite one person you trust and start a conversation that belongs to you. You don't need. There's no phone number or email required or trackers. No metadata. No, it's, it's got end to end encryption. No centralized company database, peer to peer communication. It's free on iOS, Android, Windows, Mac OS and Linux. Let's go check it out. Keat IO. Thanks for sponsoring the show. Don't forget to go to timcast.com and click join now to get in the Discord community, be the change that you want to see in the world and support the work we do here. If you believe that what we do is important, then you must sign up because we cannot do this without you. And that is not an understatement or a joke. The members are what make all of this possible. Now, maybe you're busy. You say, look, I want to see that change. I want to be that change, but I got a day job, man. Outsource that to us and the Discord community. You sign up, you support our work, and we will do what we can. And your membership is, is the support that we need. So check it out, join us. We got tens of thousands of people hanging out every single day, sharing ideas, building new projects, building community. Don't forget to also smash that like, button. Subscribe to this channel and tell everyone. You know, listen to the podcast. This word of mouth is the most powerful way to do it. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Gavin McInnes. I'm strong. You are extra. I don't know, you're kind of old.

[B]

Yeah, I'm strong for an old guy.

[A]

How old are you?

[B]

56.

[A]

56. Ish. Wow.

[B]

Don't say it like that. Be like, yeah, 56.

[A]

Oh, that's great. You're young, you know, you're. You're 56 years young.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, people are living older now, so I'm more like 53.

[A]

That's right. You know, your biological age, you know, versus your chronological.

[B]

I feel like 52.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

You.

[A]

You look a strong 51, if you're asking me. 50, 51 and and a half.

[B]

And you look in the mirror and you're like, whoa, a turtle with aids. What. What happened there?

[A]

So who are you and what. What have you done? You know, I normal ask people what do they do? But what have you done?

[B]

I started vice hipsters, gentrified Williamsburg, red pill degeneration. Started the proud boys, brought pride back to young western men and got Trump elected.

[A]

It's pretty Wild. That's a lot.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah. The funniest thing is that when people realized that you invented hipsters and the proud boys, because they seem to be diametrically opposed, like, in essence.

[B]

Well, the first uniform was kind of based on the mods. The mods and the rockers in Brighton fighting each other. And they were very hipstery their uniform. The Fred Perrys and the skinny pants and the penny loafers and the brogues. But it became a working class movement pretty quick after Manhattan. Yeah. And those guys don't like fashion, so they. It's funny. You'll have like some dude. I was just at their 10 year anniversary, our 10 year anniversary, and there's guys with like no shoes because they lost them, and like shredded pants that are shorts now just because the bottoms wore off and they. They're covered in dirt. And they have a bottle of Jack in their hand and a bag of Coke in the other, and they'll have a little Fred Perry on.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Size, like triple xl.

[A]

Well, let's talk about news. We got the boys hanging out.

[D]

Yeah. What's going on? Yeah. Gentrifying Williamsburg. I mean, that was like the modern, like, D day landings, like, kind of into the jaws of death. In many ways. It's quite incredible to see, like, the amount of cannon fodder that goes in, like, Bushwick now.

[B]

I love Williamsburg now. I can't walk around in it anymore. But it's the East Village without the junkies.

[D]

It's remarkable. I think the Hasidics kind of keep things chilled out.

[A]

Well, why can't you walk through any health?

[B]

What?

[A]

Why can't you walk through it anymore?

[B]

I'm the hipster arch enemy now. My. My golem is turned against me. Oh, it's like Gremlins. I let the hipsters get wet. I let them see sunlight.

[A]

Yeah. And now they fed them after midnight.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Technically, all time is after midnight, so, you know, I never understood what that means, like till sun up or something. Like midnight to 6am the last time

[B]

I was in Williamsburg, I had to take a hipster and put him in a blender because he was trying to attack me.

[A]

Wow, that's a big one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, anyway, Phil is also here.

[C]

What's up, everybody? I'm here. How you doing, Carter?

[B]

Good.

[A]

You know, I lived in Williamsburg for a bit. I didn't realize that I was a hipster until I got there and people started calling me that and like, oh, interesting. So you're like basically Gavin's son.

[D]

Pretty much.

[B]

I create. You're A gremlin. Yeah, you just haven't feed me after midnight.

[A]

But that's the only time that I really eat.

[B]

So you haven't been blended yet.

[A]

Okay, please, let's talk about the news and see what happens. We got this from media. AOC reveals she's freezing her eggs. Leaves door wide open to 2028. Run an interview with ABC's Carl. Carl who?

[C]

Yeah. What?

[A]

I. I just. I just. Well, it's because his name is John Carl, but I love that. Just like Carl. It's like, nondescript. Okay.

[B]

ABC's Kevin.

[A]

It's his last name, you know, so he says, I want to get to your future. So. So basically, in this poll in New Hampshire, she's the leading Democrat. She's fundraising second to John Ossoff. Dude, she's raising tens of millions of dollars. It's nuts.

[C]

She is.

[A]

She also posted a video where she's, like, freezing her eggs. So right now, in the. In the calcium markets, she's actually tied with John Ossoff, and she briefly passed him by earlier today. Ossoff was a little bit lower. Now they're about tied. I don't know that she can be president because she's a woman, but I do think she can run. And the calcium markets are probably going to skyrocket. But let me just say this. I phrase that as offensively to feminists as I could, because here's the funny thing offended us. It affected you.

[B]

Well, the feminist. Yeah, me.

[A]

Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah. So when I say she can't be president because she's a woman, the funny thing is the feminist will be like, that's sexist. How can you say that? And my response is, because I agreed with you. When you feminists said sexists would not elect a woman, I went, oh, I think the feminists are right about this. AOC can't win because she's a woman.

[B]

Well, we got Maggie Thatcher from the right, and we got a woman named Justin Trudeau who was elected by.

[A]

Yeah, but that's parliamentary, and that's. And that's like, you can vote for the party, and then they just choose to make the woman in charge.

[B]

Barack Obama was elected by women, and he's basically his mother.

[A]

But come on. Like, even if. Even if they're gay, they're not women.

[C]

But he was tall.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, we're not. You know. You know, you're not gonna. You're trying to say that Trudeau is actually a woman the whole time. You're getting a little. You know.

[B]

Is that why Hillary And Kamala lost because they're female.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, I do think so. I do.

[C]

And.

[A]

And just real quick, like, these feminists came out, and they were like, sexist men wouldn't vote for a woman. And a lot of conservatives were like, that's not true. And there was a study. This is very interesting. They. They did a mock debate where they took Trump's lines and had a woman say them and took Hillary's lines and had a man say them. And the crowd voted for the female because they liked what the female was saying. So they see this woman acting like Trump, and they're like, that's what I like. And they see a man acting like Hillary, and like, I don't like that. I don't like what's being said. But that being said, a small room where they do a mock debate. Look, I was hanging out. I don't know where it was. We were in. I. I think it was, like, D.C. and they were some young black dudes, and they were like. They were. They were fairly conservative. I don't want to call them conservatives. And they're just like, I never vote for a woman. It's never going to happen. And I'm like, your friends think that. And they're like, oh, dude, no one in my neighborhood, nobody in my family would ever vote for a woman. Like, they. They told me, especially, black people aren't going to vote for a woman.

[D]

It's crazy, because, I mean, what you guys are listening to, like, the words you're using, it's, like, inherently hierarchical because we say Hillary and Kamala, but with males, we all use their surnames. We say Trump, Biden, Obama. No one says Barack. No one says Donald Trump. I mean, some people do, but, like, obviously, when you're using shorthand with women, you always use their first name. And then with male, I don't know.

[B]

I mean, Harris is too common of a name, and Clinton makes you think of Bill. But not to hijack your response, but I think if they. We are ever going to get women to choose a woman, it's this election, so we should be quaking in our boots. I think you're right that women can't win, but if they can, it's. That time is coming up.

[C]

It's all like, also, if they. If a woman can win, AOC can win.

[D]

It's wild.

[B]

So frustrating because she's so bad. Word for people who are not intelligent.

[D]

It's. It's wild, too, how, like, the betting markets respond to whoever's doing the latest press tour. Look, like when Newsom was doing his press tour, they're like, he's going to win. And then now AOC and Osso for doing their press tours. And, like, they're going to win. It's like, as long as you're in front of cameras. That's how disjointed the Democrats are right now.

[A]

Buttigieg said that he's more inclined than not to run for president, and his prediction markets jumped up like, three points.

[D]

Yeah, people. People just want to see your face on camera.

[B]

Not about Amazon book sales that day. When you release the book, you're number one. Yeah. Selling way more than anyone. And then day two, you're number 3046.

[C]

The president is not elected on policy. Right. The Democrats and the Republicans are. Are basically in their camps nowadays. So if you're going to sway independent voters, the very few of them there are. It's all, all charisma. Right. Donald Trump won because he's. Because he's charismatic, he's funny. I'm talking about in 2016, because he's charismatic, he's funny. He said things that no one else would say, and it was refreshing to the American people. That was a big part of why he won. There is, if I understand correctly, and this is, this is. It was my inclination in the first place. But I've talked to people from, from that. That are in the House. There is no one else in the House of Representatives that has the charisma that AOC has. When you meet her, she's engaging. She's very. When she's talking to people. And I. Now, this is, this is, this is the, the impression that I got as well. And again, I don't like any of her policies. Like, but people are going to make a big stink about the fact that I'm saying that if a woman can win, it's her. She's extremely charismatic. If she has her talking points right, I don't know how she's doing a debate, but if she has her talking points right and she has the right coaching, she will do very well. And I'm not. Again, I'm not saying she's going to win. I'm not saying she can win. And if she did, it would be bad.

[A]

I'm going to explain this to you, Gavin, why she can't win.

[B]

Please do.

[A]

Because she did a rally in New York with, like, Jamal Bowman. This is like a few years ago. And when she came out, remember it? She's going like, yeah, like her rallying cry sounds like Gizmo got Wet.

[B]

It sounds like crows or turkey vultures circling a corpse.

[A]

Like, I got to be honest. Like, so. So I used to do nonprofit fundraising. I used to walk up to random people in the street and convince them to give me their credit cards. It's really quite incredible. You know, you see those people on the street, they don't really do it as much anymore, but they're, like, waving. You know, they have the clipboards. You gotta understand the talent it takes to have a stranger convince you to hand them their credit card in two or three minutes. Now, there were two characteristics unique each to him. One for a man and one for a woman. And I'm gonna ask you, Gavin, there was one characteristic a man could have that guaranteed he'd be good at this, and there was one characteristic a woman could have that would guarantee she'd be good at it. What do you think guaranteed men the ability to convince people to sign up and donate money?

[B]

Handsome and pretty close.

[A]

Close. Height.

[B]

Ah, yes.

[A]

If the guy was tall. Yeah. There's something about being tall that people just stop and say, tell me what to do. Now, among women, what do you think that characteristic was?

[B]

Gigantic breasts.

[A]

You are correct.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes. And you're not allowed to say it at these companies, but the women who worked at these nonprofit companies that were always in the top rankings of signups, they had, you know, they had large gazongas, and it's because. Very easy to stop men. And now if you told anybody that, they'd fire you in two seconds because it's sexual. It's like. It's like. It's discrimination, I guess, to be like, women with big tits can stop guys. And then I know some guys that were dumb as a box of rocks, but they were like, six, four. I knew one guy who was like six foot four, and he was just raking in donations. He was making, like, 50, 60K. And listen, I know 50, 60K doesn't sound like a lot of money right now to a lot of people, but when you're 23 and you get your first job out of college and you're doing 60k signing people up, the dude would literally just like, wave to a woman and go, hey, look, you know the environment. We live in it, you know, and you got to step up, so I need you to sign up. And they go, sure. And they just hand him whatever he asked for. And then he'd come back and be like, this job's easy. And I'm not stupid. I recognize that. Think about how that translates to elections where we're basing everything we do off the lowest common denominator, you can be the smartest mug in the world and explain the intricacies of household management and national and international policy and economics. And regular people are going to be like, but you got a green tie and they're not going to vote for it.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

The issue is this. If going on stage and explaining your policy does not move the maximum amount of people, it's worth it. There's no point in doing it. And so what we end up seeing in politics is what color tie will motivate the most people. And that's it. So when you put a five foot three aging woman who doesn't have a family on stage who sounds like this deepness of voice is motivating for people and the strength of the rallying cry. I'm not saying this because I think women shouldn't be. I'm saying it because I agree with the feminists. There's going to be way too many people. It doesn't matter what the policy is. They hear a guy like Abdul Al said he's got muscles, he works out. Granted, the weird swing stuff and dancing he's been doing has not been doing well for his testosterone. But that guy comes out and he says, listen, the power of our many is stronger than the power of their money. People go, whoa. When AOC comes out, goes. People go, how cute. That's just it. So there's one way I think AOC wins and that's if the Republicans nominated female.

[B]

Well, everything is racial now and ethnic and it's getting worse. So Mexicans vote for the Hispanic name. They see Diaz. Blacks vote for the black guy. 99% of blacks voted for Obama and it was just race based. White people go for the white guy. But it's occurred to me that the minorities that you need to put to really move the meter, like Mexicans and blacks, they, they don't, they're much more sexist than the way we're all portrayed as sexist. But, well, fundamental sexism is foreigners and that Senegalese are not voting for a woman no matter who she is.

[A]

That's why I was saying like I talked to these young black guys and they were like, nobody I know would vote for a woman.

[B]

Like that's even truer of recent African immigrants and recent Hispanic immigrants.

[A]

And I did this with Chicago and remember when Brandon Johnson got elected, I tracked the voting turnout based and I checked the race, racial demographics of the neighborhoods and guess what? They all overlap in the black neighborhoods in Chicago, the top Three candidates by vote count were not even the top three favorites. They were just black. Yeah, so they were. They were candidates that were being voted for in the black neighborhood that weren't contenders that nobody heard of. But in the black neighborhoods, they all knew who this person was. The white neighborhoods voted for the white guy. The Hispanic neighborhoods voted for the Hispanic guy. There was one deviation that got Brandon Johnson the win. And do you know what neighborhood that was? I don't know if you're familiar with the Chicago area, but really Loyola University. Loyola University, a largely white area, voted for Brandon Johnson, the one black candidate who was also a socialist, like Ma' Am Danny. So when you look at all the black neighborhoods, Brandon Johnson wasn't the number one, but he was two or three because they were just voting based on race. So the white neighborhoods voted for the white guy, Latinos for Latino guy. The black neighborhoods voted for the black guy. And because there are. So the black population is decently large. Plus he was. Brandon Johnson was doing well. He was like in the top three, I think. But you combine that, Loyola went 100 for him, number one, that pushed him over the edge, actually. I think it went to a runoff and then he ended up winning the runoff. And now you have a. An inept socialist who runs Chicago and is running into the ground and everyone's pissed off.

[B]

Yeah, just like Mamdeni. Maybe these foreigner bigots are right. Like, I saw some joke in the. And it was someone mocking, like a really old fashioned sexist. And he was like, I imagine him being British for some reason. He's like, well, maybe it was Ali G. And he was like, oh, Donna, what, what's. While you'd have a woman lead, I mean, what if she was on a period, right? And she's got the new codes and everyone laughs at that joke. But later on I'm like, yeah, what if.

[C]

Well, I mean, look you.

[B]

Well, if you've been around a woman with pms, it's not normal.

[A]

How old was Thatcher when she, when she became PM?

[B]

47.

[A]

Yeah. So she'd have to. We have to worry about that.

[B]

No, she had already dried up.

[A]

Well, you can, you can say it as derisively as possible, but it's.

[B]

I don't know. I think that's one of the many reasons that women make bad leaders. And it's, it's, it's a man's game. It's a Western man's game. But, you know, if, especially America, you're the leader of the free world, you're taking on Russia and China and trying to prevent global anarchy. I don't think it should be any woman. And it definitely shouldn't be the fake bartender from the Bronx who's not from the Bronx.

[A]

Yeah, I think. I think there's just a reality, too, that's like, imagine her going to Vladimir Putin. Putin's going to be like, I'm going to nuke you. And she's going to be like, well, you better not. And he's going to be like, we

[B]

saw this with Justin Trudeau. Remember Justin Trudeau trying to deal with Zingping? And Z is like, you recorded our meeting and you made it public. And he's like, what? And he goes, don't ever do that. And he's got a translator. Don't ever do that again. You violated our trust. And Justin went like, okay. And then he walked awkwardly to the bathroom from that. That meeting. And then the door is locked, and he just sort of stands by the door like, alrighty.

[A]

What happened to your people?

[B]

It got warm out. Global warming. And when we lost the cold, we lost our edge because we can't play hockey. So we lost. We went out of shape.

[A]

Well, also, the cold just kills all the weak people. And that's all that's left of the barbarians.

[C]

That's how you defeat the Canadians. Huh?

[B]

I shouldn't have said that. They're going to kill me.

[C]

Just a hairdryer. Warm them up.

[D]

Trudeau was like, we delete that. He was so serious.

[C]

We don't have that.

[D]

When Russia got kicked out of the G8 and became the G7, he's like, not only are we going to join the G8, he's like, we're going to join the permanent Security Council, the United Nations. He looks like, like, a little delusional. He was saying all of this to the Canadian people. And then, yeah, to your point, every time you would actually meet with, like, relevant, like, global leaders, it was just like this awkward, like, wallflower. It was the, like, most bizarre thing.

[A]

But you see that yoga thing he did on the table? Women love that. Which was that again, during his, like, his first campaigning or whatever, he did this, like, hand press on a table, like, balanced himself.

[D]

Yoga. Oh, right.

[A]

And all the women were going, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I mean, women do determine elections, but I don't think it's going to be this woman. Although, who knows? Look at Brandon Johnson and, mm, Danny and Karen Bass. Like, we've had the entire dnc. Now let me see their Avengers super list with Pete. But a gig like Gavin Newsom is their Superman. And he's one of the most corrupt and demonic politicians in American history.

[C]

There's a significant portion. And now, granted, these are usually conservative women, but there's a significant portion of women that say, I would never vote for a woman because I'm crazy. Yes, they say that. I've heard.

[A]

All right. All right, boys. Come on. Let's go. Let's go. So AOC Axios, you know, she posted this video. It's not really that they're reporting it, but she's. She announced she's freezing her eggs. And actually, I think I can pull up this video. Let's see. Here we go. We've got. We've got. She posted this video of her getting this shot, and we'll see if we can open it and play the audio. Weird about this, even though I know all of you will be.

[B]

That's not heroin, is it?

[A]

This is like a hormone. I have made the decision to become a junkie.

[B]

My eggs.

[A]

There just isn't a ton out there, I feel. And sometimes it can feel very daunting. We are not talking about a ton of lives. Whether that is in puberty, whether that is in pregnancy, whether that is in perimenopause, menopause.

[B]

Just saying P words.

[A]

Whether that is in. In so many different aspects of our lives.

[B]

Peru.

[A]

Whether that is. If you have a condition like pcos, whether it's all P words, you know what's going on, you want to plan to have a family, whether you don't plan to have children or biologically.

[B]

What are these words?

[A]

I think we need to show more depictions of having full lives in every context. And. Okay, we don't need whatever the rest of that was.

[D]

That was an earthquake. Yeah. That was nice. Yeah.

[A]

Here's the point. Here are the stats on IVF. So if you are between 35 and 37, live birth from IVF is 38 to 40%. 30 and 40, it's 25 to 26. 41 to 42 is 12 to 13. AOC is 36 years old. She's freezing her eggs. Now make this make sense. Okay. If she is 36 now, she can have a kid. If she's 37, have a kid. 38, she can have a kid. 39, she can have a kid. IVF is not particularly successful at those ages. The only thing that makes sense is that she wants to have a kid when she's 45, when the chances of. Of a natural pregnancy are extremely low. The only problem is if you're older than 42, live birth from IVF is between 4 and 4.5%. There literally is no math that aging. IVF makes sense. IVF makes sense if you are a young woman with. With fertility issues and they're like, we're going to try to, you know, take your eggs and then do an implant because it's not working. But this idea that a woman could be 36 and freeze her eggs and get pregnant later is fake. It's just not real.

[B]

That's the most feminist thing you've ever said. This is why women need the patriarchy, because they're better off with us in control. Ladies, don't listen to your fellow ladies. Listen to Tim Pool. Yeah, I would even say it's. It's. You're leaving out even worse details. Like your eggs. Ladies, you. You start menstruating. A little young for our taste. Now. 14. Don't have babies at 14. But you're 20 is a brown. You should be rocking. That's why you're so libidinous. At 20, 25, things start to wind down. Find a man. You better have a man by 25. At 30. And no one believes me. But ask a doctor this. At 30, the hourglass is turned upside down. The sand is draining 30 to 35. The sand is draining. Please stop telling me that your aunt had a baby at 43. That is anecdotal evidence. I'm talking about billions of people here. For billions of people, the hourglass is draining 30 to 35.

[A]

35 and older is called a geriatric pregnancy.

[B]

You're wheeled into a separate part of the hospital. It's a big deal. But what's really going on here is this talk about suicidal empathy. The feminist mantra has become, you're not a breeding machine. You're a woman. Hear you roar. So freeze your eggs, don't breed, don't get married as a form of empowerment, but it's literally the end of your legacy. It's the end of humanity.

[A]

It's the end of billions of years of reproduction from the dawn of time. If you're religious, we'll just say from the dawn of time. If you're not, you will be the first organism in your chain that did not reproduce.

[B]

And to be clear here, they're lying to you. Like this whole freeze your eggs, free your career. It's based on the assumption that they haven't seen that clip you just pulled up, that graphic you just pulled up where the eggs are good at 90. No, they're not.

[A]

This story was massively famous in 2014. This woman is on the COVID Freeze youe Eggs, Free your Career. And they ran this big thing about how women in their 30s were going to freeze their eggs and have kids when they're in their 40s instead, which is not real. Like I showed you right here, if you're 45, you have, like, a 1% chance of success. Well, guess what? This lady. It was one of the worst days of my life. The woman from the COVID of this magazine at 45 years old decided to unfreeze her eggs and use a sperm donor, and they all failed. And she will never be a mother. That's it. That is. That is horrifying. I mean, what's terrifying is, look, if you don't want to have kids and you're sure of it, I don't care. Do whatever you want. But for this woman who wanted to have kids, she was told, freeze your eggs. Don't worry. When the time is right, you can have kids. And she said, okay. Now, if she was never lied to, if they told her it won't work, the success is minimal in the single digits. You need to have a kid. Now, she could have went, okay, get me the sperm donor.

[D]

But think about.

[A]

Not that I'm a fan of that, but she could have at least had a kid.

[D]

Think about all her LinkedIn endorsements.

[A]

It's true.

[D]

That's the true measure of prosperity.

[B]

Evil lie that leads to a form of genocide. Those kids aren't having kids. Their kids aren't having kids. How many potentially millions of people did you just kill, you silly cow? And you know where else. You see this? And it's obviously less biological, but no, it's the same biology. Sex and the City. The woman who wrote that she deeply regrets pushing out this propaganda that said, ladies, it's about sex and partying and Milano Blahniks. And don't worry about your, you know, drying up and being a spinster and being childless. You can just keep partying. No, you can't. You have a biological clock.

[D]

Well, and here's the red pill, too. And this is what maybe people on the audience aren't ready for. But IQ is 100% hereditary. We know this. This is like. This is, you know, Biology 101. IQ is hereditary.

[A]

And that explains you.

[B]

Are you calling my dad an idiot?

[D]

Well, here's like, the Red was smart.

[B]

That was an IQ joke.

[D]

I thank you. That's very nice. And you were saying that, like. Like these women are effectively removing themselves from the gene pool. And that's absolutely true. Now, high IQ women are Very prone to neuroticism. So you were saying that men need to like, keep these women in check and these women refuse to submit and they end up like, this is a disaster. The problem is like, we're taking the highest IQ people out of the gene pool because of the way that our society is currently structured. There is a poster, his name escapes me. He calls major cities IQ shredders. Because you're basically like taking your highest human capital and putting them in one place, which literally drops their, like their fertility rate to zero. So what's happening is that the highest IQ members of society are ending up like this. Or if they're men, they're unable to find a wife and our highest IQs or highest human capital gets completely shredded up.

[A]

Is sort of. But it's actually. The future isn't going to be that high IQ people are gone. It's that we're removing the middle IQ people. So we're gonna create two distinct groups of people in the future. What were they called again, Phil?

[B]

The rich and the poor.

[A]

No.

[C]

Oh, the Morlocks and the Eloy.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

Morlocks in the Eloy.

[D]

No, it's sad to think it's true.

[A]

Hold on. Like, the women that are not having kids are the midwits. A midwit is not a stupid person. People, if. So here's what happens. You go online and someone will say you're a midwit. They think midwit means you're slightly dumb. No, no, no. Midwit means you're slightly smart. Yep, you're smarter than average, but not quite smart enough to fully grasp, you know, multi, multi layered thinking, multi ordered thinking women like this. She's clearly an intelligent woman, but if she were very intelligent, she'd be like, listen, if the woman was highly intelligent, I don't know if IQ is the right way to describe because there's different areas of intelligence, street smarts. She would, she would say to the doctor, if I freeze my eggs, we're going to freeze 11 of them. What has been the success rate of an egg unfreezing nine years after freezing? And they'd say 17% per egg. And she'd say, so with 11 eggs, I'm looking at maybe two or three that make it. What is the, what is the implant success rate? That's going to be 2 or 3%. And she's going to say, so I'm looking at a less than 0.0001% chance. Or, okay, I'm gonna go have a kid now. That's intelligent.

[D]

Well, the problem, I guess what I'm trying to get at here is that like neuroticism is directly correlated to high iq. So like women that are exceptionally high IQ are especially neurotic and they're not gonna have children. Guys that are really autistic, really neurodivergent, really neurotic, they end up like podcasters. So the high IQ men are like having kids or want to have kids, but the high IQ women are getting grinded up like this.

[B]

But the thing that pisses me off is it's all based on a lie. If these women were knowingly saying, I'm choosing career over kids, I was going to use Barbara Corcoran as an example of that, but she ended up getting artificial insemination. She spent like 300 grand making her kids late in life. So it's hard to think of someone who willfully and knowledgeably said, I'm not having kids. Yeah, but this is a lie. The sex in the city was a lie. And this whole like coming to New York and having a great life and you don't want kids, it's a lie. New York City is an elephant's graveyard for ovaries. Do not go there, ladies. You will end your lineage forever.

[D]

It's the.

[B]

And you don't want this life. That's the other thing. People go, why is Gavin giving a crap about some 40 year old woman in New York he's never going to meet? Because I care about society as a whole. And my friends are. I'm Gen X. My friends are in their 50s and now they're alone and they're like, what was I thinking?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, I was screaming at you the whole time.

[D]

New York City is the biggest IQ shredder on planet Earth.

[B]

Absolutely.

[D]

Where you have the highest human capital. Moving there and becoming libtards, becoming, you know, you name it, whatever it is, it's taking their birth rate and nuking it. It's at zero.

[B]

I would say Britain is worse. Britain might be worse.

[D]

London, San Francisco, Austin. These cities are like ambitious, young, high IQ people move and then for a variety of reasons again, they become libtards. Their birth rate drops to zero. Now, you may be saying this, watching the show, either I'm a woman or my wife is quite smart and she's had children. Well, congratulations. That means your husband or you as the man watching, conquered that woman and like beat them. A lot of the women like got the neurotic, you know, did something to her to remove the neuroticism. From her. I'm sure maybe the after show we can explain the process that occurs. But yeah, that's what's going on is like, yeah, it's very neurotic women who, without a man to check that just completely unravel.

[B]

A lot of the women in San Francisco though are not having kids because they have penises.

[D]

That's true. Yeah, that is true. But you know, sad. It's like the people that are having a lot of kids right now, again, a lot of the people watching the show have a lot of kids and they're very high iq. But those are people that are like naturally like truth seeking contrarian plot of idiocracy.

[B]

That's the beginning.

[D]

The majority of the people having a lot of kids right now are like third worlders with like 75 IQs. That is who you don't want them having kids. Sorry, I know that's like antenatal or whatever, but that's just true. We need high IQ people having kids and low IQ people to stop. If I know any of you, I

[A]

know a guy who had a, had a job. He worked in a professional industry and he was very successful. He made a lot of money, had a lot of great clients. I met a woman who knew him and they had both started their careers at the same time in their early 20s. Her career was complete, career was derailed and she was desperately trying to get that career going again. What derailed it? She had a kid, she got pregnant in her mid-20s, had a kid and then the baby for the first, like, I mean if you want to be really light, you can say for the first year, needs the mother, absolutely no questions. But the reality is a good functioning child is going to have their mom for several years dedicated full time to raising that child. And she did that. And it was respectful and it was respectable and honorable that she chose to. When she finally got back into the industry, she was now behind. She didn't know the latest techniques, the latest, the latest industry technology. And so she's looking at this guy who's making six figures, who is, who is now one of the leaders of the industry enter, you know, in his late 20s. And she's like, man, how do I get back there? And I said it is the nature of reality that men and women will never be equal in careers. Because even if the woman wants just is gonna have the kid and immediately back to work, she says, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do that years off thing. I'm gonna take the amount of time off I Need to have the baby and then get back to work. And I'm like, congratulations. The man doesn't have to do that. The man has a kid. They go to the hospital together. The wife is then at home, and the guy goes back to work, and he says, text me if you need anything. Within a day. The woman still needs a recovery period. Even if she doesn't want to nurse that child, even if she doesn't want to be there and raise it, she still needs to recover because of the arduous process of literally giving birth. That means in the workplace, men and women will not have equality.

[B]

But they also like it better. They Most women. Like my wife said she's going back to work after our first kid. And she. As soon as the kid came out, I was like, I can tell that ship has sailed. It's more fulfilling. You create life. You create a home. I think feminists have brainwashed women into thinking there's a just cooking and cleaning. For some, like, Saudi Arabian stranger, It's your husband. You choose the carpets, by the way. It's not like your husband's going on interior decorating, going, what is this table doing here? Ew, gag me with a spoon. She's choosing the furniture. It's her home. She shapes it. And there's also this.

[C]

Be the homemaker.

[B]

She's. Yeah, when we go, I want to go home. It's to the thing you made.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah. And. And the whole, like, we want to be part of the stories. You gave birth to every person in this story. Luke Skywalker's mom made Luke Skywalker. You don't need to also be fighting the bad guys.

[A]

And also was a principal character and leader. And, like, you can just be the mom and his. His aunt and uncle, also his parental figures. Murder as a have is a large motivator. The funny. The funny thing is how this ends up translating into film and how Marvel basically just nuked the past seven years of movies they made. All of the Marvel films. The last seven years, they erased, and they're doing doomsday instead. Why is that? Because people started to realize no one wants to see a woman. That the hero's journey works. And they tried doing this feminist version where the hero's journey is there's a young man, unassuming, random kid, like a moisture farmer on a desert planet in the middle of nowhere. It turns out he's actually the son of a great warrior who had tremendous power. And he gets a magic laser sword and then is tasked with saving the universe from a gigantic Galactic weapon. That's the hero's journey. So they started making these female versions. But in the female versions, the woman was always powerful. She had the power from the get go, but the man was stopping her from doing it. And she really just wanted to do whatever she wanted. And everyone hated it, this narrative. So the reality is, the reason I bring this up, women like watching Spider man save the woman, jump off the building and grab her and then swing. The women love seeing that. They love seeing the strongman. Men love seeing it. It's as simple as men want to be him, women want to be with him. And they tried changing all of that because they have this ridiculous blank slate worldview that men and women are the exact same no matter what. You know, I wonder if it was just an experiment, if we took babies and brainwashed them into thinking this garbage. Will it work? And it turns out it didn't.

[B]

But we did that experiment. Remember those triplets who were separated at birth and one was raised poor, the other was raised rich?

[A]

I don't know this one.

[B]

It's a documentary that's out. I've seen it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they end up. They're the exact same guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Despite all their backgrounds. We are who we are from birth. We. These patterns. The, the assumption of the left is like, there's this Boss Hog guy going, I don't want no N Native American astronauts. And there ain't going to be no. None of them Negro lawyers around here. They don't know how to do law. So don't let them have the bar. Let them pass the bar. And that's why they do their whole like, first Bavarian astronaut. Like it. Someone was holding them back. But we can see, we know patterns. And there's physiognomy, like, you know, gay face. I believe in gay face.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was watching that show Beef on Netflix with that hunky Asian and that female comedian, the other Asian, and he's. They get into some dumb like traffic road rage thing and he declares war on her in the show. And I'm like. And he's a contractor, A loser, failed contractor. And I'm looking at him going, yeah, no you're not. You're not a handsome Chinese loser. And I looked up the actor. Turns out he's like a chemical engineer who wanted to try acting. We can tell that this isn't natural. The reason Luke Skywalker works is because it clicks something in us. That, that, that, you know, that, that, that reminds us of Christopher Columbus and, and Braveheart and all of these other Icons in, in world history. When we see Halle Berry, roundhouse kick five Russian mobsters, we go, this feels weird because it is.

[A]

We were talking about this before the show because we were watching this clip, which we'll have in the. We'll. We'll do a bigger thing in the uncensored show. It's the Bear Gryllis men versus women island thing.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's great.

[A]

The women wander on the island, they get lost and start crying, going, let's go, boys. And they, like have a bar set up and they're drinking and they have coconuts and they're all laughing together. And we were talking about it because, you know, I pointed out the reason the women get lost is because they navigate by landmark, whereas men navigate by cardinal directions. And that. So first I just want to say this, like it. It to the feminists. Shut up. They get, they get so. No, no. But they get offended by pointing out that women are different. And what I am saying about navigating by landmark is not disparaging, but they get offended by it. It's like stating a thing like, don't say that about me because I'm like a man. No, you're not a man. You're a woman. You navigate by landmarks in general. Shut up. I don't care about your feelings. Landmarks are cultural elements. They are not physical, objective elements. This means that women, as we already know, are subject oriented and men are object oriented. So object, meaning cardinal directions. Math guys tend to say, you want to head. You want to head north about two or three blocks, then you're going to head west. You're going to. You're going to go for about half a mile or so and then you're going to, you're going to turn north again and you should find it. Women tend to go, you're going to walk down until you see the gigantic donut guy holding the donut. Then you want to go left until you see the guy who looks like he's made of pizza at the pizza restaurant.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Women navigate by cultural elements or by landmarks, things that are recognizable to humans. Men navigate by general directions, which are more binary and mathematic. So what you end up seeing is in this show, the women get mocked because they get lost. Why? There are no cultural icons to navigate with. The men just go, follow the sun. The women go, we're going to walk this direction. And they keep spinning in circles because. But that's not. I'm not saying that to deride women. It's to point out the differences.

[B]

What's with like, I don't understand the envy for something that's so esoteric. I think they watched Mad Men and they go, you guys go to strip clubs at lunch and drink bourbon. And it's like, if the client insists. But then my. The rest of my day is shot. And then I got to work twice as hard tomorrow because I drank during lunch. Our jobs are not that glamorous. Even. This is one of the funnest jobs there are. We let a woman break through the glass ceiling and come in here and start talking. She'd be like, can we stop now? Why. Why are we still talking about politics?

[A]

I was playing. I was playing poker at the World Series of Poker, and I have this joke where when the blinds go up, for those who don't. Don't know what that means. It means there's a mandatory bet. It becomes larger, which it's threatening. It's. It's pressure on you, right? And so whenever they go up, I go, what are the blinds? It. This literally happened when it turns out, I goes like, 10,000. Who? Guess this is really. Like I said, I guess this is where they really separate the men from the boys, huh? And there was one woman at the table, and she goes, I'm not a boy. Or she goes, I'm not either. And I said, well, you know, it's. Cause women are already on another level, you know? Then all the guys started busting out laughing, and one guy goes, nice save. She started muttering something, and I'm like, why is. It's a joke. I'm not literally saying that men and boys like, chill out, lady.

[B]

But this whole breaking through the glass ceiling is to get to our world. You're gonna get shards all over yourself. You know how much of every job is expense reports? Do you know how much of every job is going through the minutiae of when does he arrive? Because they're not going to get there till 4. Like, you're busting into get with the cool crowd. And our job is systems politics Podcasts. Another P word. It's all.

[A]

It's all Systemnel reports. Yeah. Let me.

[B]

Why do you want to get into our club so bad?

[A]

You mentioned Mad Men, right? Do you really go to strip clubs for lunch? Let me tell you a story. I worked at Fusion. So I worked at Vice. I left Vice. I went to Fusion, and there was a coworker there, and they were all very, like, woke. Millennial feminist. And I was having lunch with one of their female personalities who I was friends with. We were talking about like, me too. Stuff. And she just. She goes, come on, Tim, be honest. Like, how many of your dude friends are cool with rape?

[B]

What?

[A]

Exactly. And that's what. It's exactly what I said to her. I went, all right, A third. I went, what? And she's like, no. Like, how many of your guy friends are, like, cool with rape? And I was like, literally zero. And she goes, come on, none of them. And I was like, are you. Are you being serious right now? Like, is this what you think? Like, listen, I was like, if I was sitting around with a group of my dude friends and one guy started going up on how you want to rape a woman, we'd be like, dude, shut up. Like, that's weird, bro.

[B]

Like, and it's insulting to you that you would tolerate.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Your rapist palace.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. But she genuinely believed. She said. She's like, yeah, like, guys are sitting around joking about the women they rape. And I'm like, no, they don't. Listen, maybe they're joking about rape like George Carlin style, but not if a man literally was like, yeah, look what I did. Haha. Stupid. We'd be like, bro, are you.

[D]

What, like, bad form?

[A]

Yeah, there's a joke into the absurdity of it. But she literally thought, because this was the woke era, this was 2016, she literally believed that dudes would mad men in the middle of the day and start talking about who they wanted to rape and how they're getting away with it.

[B]

You know, it might be the Facebook bubble where they're so separate from us now with all this. This your algorithm just giving you what you want. That they have a view of us that is so bizarre. Like, all our friends, like, rape. We say the N word, like, to each other constantly. And when we see blacks on the street, like, we're alone in our car yelling at them. It's. It's this boss hog view of the world that is just. It shows that they have no clue who we are.

[A]

They literally think this. It's funny when, you know, I have friends and they'll. You know, I had a friend of mine from back home, and he was like, yeah. Like, I had a friend who said, like, when they found that, I was like, we knew each other. They were like, yeah, but Tim's a white supremacist. And they were like, he's Korean. What are you talking about?

[B]

Who's a white supremacist? Like, a white supremacist. I think their definition is the Holocaust never happened. The Jews run everything. And I Want blacks to go back to Africa. If I met a guy like that who had all three of those, I'd be like, you're. This is. I want to, like, put you on a little thing and, like, invite people around to ask you questions. You're a very weird person.

[A]

That's not what they think white supremacist means, though. They think it means, like, pro America, hard work, scheduling, punctuality. But I mean, I'm serious. The Smithsonian put out that, that, that infographic that it was like. It was like, being on time is white supremacy. Did you. Did you. Do you remember the woke era? Like, let's do this. I got to pull this up. All right. It's. It's AOC Day here at Tim Cast from Fox News. AOC tries to laugh off crazy woke era as a thing of the past, but conservatives aren't amused. First of all, she said Woke 1 was crazy, implying Woke 2 is here, which is still nuts. There was a moment. I love this. There was a university, and they had a scientist researcher, and they had a shaman. And they said ignoring the shaman's natural understanding is white supremacy. Just because white people think science is true doesn't make it true. And therefore the shaman's view of why things are is equally true.

[B]

This is a South African university.

[A]

It was something like that.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

The shaman was like, we have headaches because the demons are in our brain. And they're like, wow.

[B]

And one of them, one of the non shaman people said, but you guys believe that a shaman can. Can decide if someone's going to get struck by lightning. And then they all laughed hysterically. That anyone would doubt such a thing.

[A]

Yeah, but wouldn't it be hilarious if he just pointed the person.

[B]

You deny this?

[A]

I mean, that would be cool. I'd. I would convert to whatever that was.

[B]

I believe you. You win.

[A]

I'd be like, okay, which book do I read? Tell me what to do.

[C]

Right. Thor.

[D]

I love Woke one. It's just like, Benjamin Netanyahu gets up. He's like, Man, Gaza 1 was crazy.

[B]

It also absolves her of guilt, too. Like, that was Woke one. Oh, yeah, Driving that machine, my dear.

[D]

I mean, that was the whole story of the Bible. Jesus getting up and being like, Judaism one was crazy.

[A]

It works in so many respects, so applicable.

[D]

It's fantastic.

[A]

Judaism one.

[C]

But to Gavin's point, one, you know, like, the fact that she's saying this, it's trying to absolve herself. And you're hearing a lot of people making similar comments on the Internet and stuff. A lot of. Of leftists, because they wanted. They want to disavow the things that they themselves said.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

And the actions that they themselves took. And also, it does imply that, look, when Democrats are culturally, you know, prevalent again, there will be more. Yeah, they will do this again.

[B]

Or it's almost a threat, too. Like, don't let me unleash Woke to you. Deeply regret it.

[A]

Well, and just, just real quick, just like, I guarantee if you went to AOC and said, should children be allowed to get sex changes? You go, of course. It's like, that's still Woke one lady.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

This is the thing that I think is. I don't know if alarming is the correct word, but that's what's happening there. It's a recalibration. Right. Like, she's saying woke one is crazy insofar as the packaging is what was crazy, but the actual policies were fine. It was just the way we presented it. What we're seeing here is a recalibration where the left has realized that especially a lot of young people don't really care as much as long as their sensibilities aren't being offended. So they can still, like, push through all of the insane social policies as long as they're, like, nailing the economic policies, what young people want, what minorities want, et cetera. They basically have a blank check to do, like, whatever they want. So I guess, yeah, what I'm getting at is like, she's just saying it was a packaging issue. Like, it's nothing. Nothing was off about the policy.

[B]

We made the changes look bad.

[D]

It was too obvious.

[B]

Top surgery on kids.

[D]

We finally got the science down.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Now we can go with Woke 2.0.

[B]

But it's so frustrating, too. After all this, it's our time to gloat. And they're like, yeah, let's gloat. And I'm like, no, no, you're not gloating.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, Jake Tapper puts out a book going, can you believe the media hid that Biden didn't know what he was doing? And we're like, that was you, dude.

[D]

It's like they're all in on, like, a joke. And we're going to be like, that was Crazy guy.

[B]

That Jake Tapper guy was nuts now.

[C]

And part of the reason is because there was no actual, you know, repercussions for. For being involved with that. Like, it's pretty much just like everyone's like, oh, I guess we're not doing that anymore. And there was no Punishment. There was no social cost.

[D]

It was the, the. The Bud Light advertiser got scalped and that was it. We're good.

[A]

Can we talk about Woke one?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This is from a year ago from Popular Mechanics. Why some people think two plus two equals five and why they're right. Indeed. And now here's the funny thing. Here's Wikipedia. Two plus two equals five is a mathematical falsehood which is used an example of a simple logical error. Indeed. We went through this whole cycle with woke people being like, actually, two plus two is five. And if you don't agree, you're. You're a chud. Oh my God.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I am a chud, by the way, thank, like fully admitting it. Yeah.

[D]

The worst manifestation of this kind of stuff is in Australia, where the aboriginals will come up with like the most insane thing you ever heard. And all the white liberals in Australia will be like, everyone, we need to listen and learn. This is some indigenous knowledge here. This is really powerful stuff that we suppressed when we came over here and taught them to eat, you know, with a fork.

[B]

Well, I even do it with rape. They'll be like, or grape, I guess we say on. Right on this network. But grape, they'll be like, there was just that guy that went viral recently, like two days ago or maybe even yesterday, where he goes, yes, the, the new migrants do seem disproportionately have a problem with grape, but you got to look at the actual grape. I mean, how much of it was sort of led on and you're like, oh, this is an interesting devil's advocate position here. Now we're.

[A]

And, and hold on, hold on.

[B]

Grapes.

[C]

I want, I want to point out one thing. How can we say that Woke one is over when we are talking about rape? And you have to say, great.

[A]

Literally, it's still, it's the.

[B]

I mean, I mean, we're not promoting it either. We're not here like they are. We're not promoting it.

[D]

The point is, like, we can all.

[C]

No, no, guys, the point is we're all adults, right?

[B]

We're adults here.

[C]

We should be able to discuss serious topics and like, not have to use code words. But we still actually live in a society where to some degree you're not allowed to say certain things, whether or not you're. You're intending to be. Well, we offend people or whatever.

[A]

And it's like, like, here's the thing. If we say rape on this show, the AI picks up, picks it up and then tells advertisers, stay away. Then the ad ranking, your, your, your ad suitability goes down. And then YouTube says, Deprioritize the show because we're not going to make money on it.

[D]

Well, that's why all those car mechanic channels started getting nuked because they have a particular shorthand they use for transmission. We can't say I picked it up and nuked him. I love that anecdote you gave of like, I think it was like Pakistani migrants in Britain. And like the presenter was like, yeah, we just haven't like properly explained to them what consent is yet. Like, as if you're going to sit one of these guys down and be like. So you have to ask. And he's going be like, oh, that's why they're so mad.

[B]

Don't like it. Well, they do that. You saw, remember the, the video. My. No, no place. Don't touch me here.

[A]

And then they, when they were dancing or whatever.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And then they had the billboards in LA saying in Spanish that you shouldn't grape and it's a violation of the girls rights. And like the Mexican guy is driving going, get out of here. Really?

[D]

Yeah. That's a wake up call with the Aboriginals. And they had. The song is like, don't sniff petrol

[A]

and Lou.

[D]

And they're watching that, they're like, oh, that's why I feel weird.

[B]

It's like there's a problem. Then they have. The Dems get money, the socialists get money and they go, all right, well, let's spend money on the problem. Let's make a song about not sniffing petrol.

[C]

The infantilization of adults. That. I mean, that's why you're not allowed to say certain things. That's why there are, you know, advertisers that don't want to, you know, they don't. We don't want to be associated with that. We have to make, make children's songs for adults to tell them not to sniff gas.

[D]

Yeah. And we have to be precise. It's treating minorities like children.

[C]

And I mean, it's not just minorities though.

[D]

Not just. But like I gu. In this certain instance, what referring to as murders. Because you'll hear this firsthand from white people that have dealt with American customs. They get like maximum tightness, maximum enforcement is placed. I think Trump talked about this with his wife, you know, from Slovenia or whatever, and he's like, yeah, customs, like roughed her up. Like if you're like a white European or Canadian or Australian and he comes to the us, they will like ensure you're doing Everything. All your T's are crossed, all your eyes are dotted. But then people from the third World, it's like they have a completely different set of standards.

[B]

Literally have a different entrance. They go through a different door.

[D]

Yeah. And so. So, like, I think what's going on there is like the custom agents, when they see other white people, they view them as like contemporaries. Right. And they're like, all right, well, here's the rules. You got to act by the rules. You know, they, like, coddle these third worlders, these minorities, and so they just treat them like children. Oh, you didn't get your paperwork?

[B]

It's okay.

[A]

Come over here.

[D]

We'll get this figured out.

[A]

Sort of. But you know the story where that woman was like, super woke and then she married the. The Muslim guy and then he murdered her. You guys see this story recently?

[B]

This isn't Michelle Obama, is it?

[A]

It's a real story that recently this woman, she had all these viral Instagram and tiktoks where she was like, white supremacist, blah, blah, you know, Chud Maga. She married a Muslim guy and then he murdered her. I think. I think the reality is that women want strong men, and Muslim guys are the ones who are willing to say, sit down and shut up. Do as you're told.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And when you look at, like, a lot of the. I'm not going to pretend like, you know, the majority of the United States is Muslim or something, but there are a lot of prominent Muslims activists who have come here. Zara Mamdani is a good example in a big wave.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Abdul El Sayed. And they are. They are the strong men telling people to sit down and shut up and do as you're told. When Mamdani tells the billionaire, ding, ding, ding on the camera, we're gonna take your property from you. We're Shut you down. We're gonna publish your address. Women are like, these billionaires are losers. Look how strong he is. It's a rudimentary. He just spat in the face of the billionaires. He's stronger than they are. And women like it.

[D]

There might be something to that because, I mean, do you know how long it would take me to get my girl to put like a tablecloth on to go outside? Like, that's like a five hour argument. They just. They got it down, dude. They're like, no, no problem. You're going out in the bin bag right away.

[B]

They're in the garbage.

[D]

Yeah, maybe.

[C]

Yeah, there.

[B]

There is something suspicious. And it. It's maybe too taboo to Discuss in front of a paywall. But the whole refugees welcome thing. I just saw this hideous old British woman in bed with this young Indian gentleman. And a lot of it seems to have some grape fantasy underpinnings, especially in, like, northern Europe, in Norway and Finland, where they. They like the tall, dark, and not really handsome imports. It just seems strangely sexual. Even in my neighborhood, which is very white and upper class, the way they treat the minorities, it's bordering on, like, safari. Like, it's a black panther.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, they do this in Brazil. They have favela safaris. Tourists can rent. Can rent. Hire a tour guide to drive them through the poor areas.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

They had to get the favelas when

[B]

I was in Johannes and throw food out and stuff.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[B]

No one tried to bite me.

[A]

They do. They do. They'll throw bread to kids.

[D]

They had these in Johannesburg. They're like, we'll take you on a scene CBD arts tour. And like, it was all these. It was mostly, like, Dutch and, like, Belgian women. And they loved it. They loved getting to go through the dangerous CBD in the central business district. And it was exciting to them. And they had a tour guide. He was like this, like. It was like, you know, Mount Everest, like a Sherpa. And he was like, hey, don't go over there. It's dangerous. And they're like.

[B]

It's almost like the toxic masculinity thing where they. They castrated us was a bluff and they didn't want us to chop our balls off. And now that we did, they're like, what are you doing?

[A]

It's called the nest test.

[B]

It's like when a kid tests boundaries.

[A]

Yes. It's called an S test, you know? Are you familiar?

[B]

No, I won't.

[A]

I don't want to swear, but. Ish test. Right? It's this. It's a. I guess it's like a theory or. It's a. It's a. I don't know. In the red pill dating culture that women will test the strength of the man. And when the man goes, I'm sorry, honey, they lose attraction to him because he's. He's weak. So I don't know how much I really care for this. Because if you're the kind of guy that's just tolerating a woman, being abusive for any reason, I don't care for the idea of the test. Just say, later, leave.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, I gotta be honest. Like, if I was ever in a relationship with a woman and she Pulled hypothetical. I mean, actually, it's not. Even when I was younger, I've had. I've dated like a bunch of women and they'd pull some BS And I'd get up and I'd be like, see you later. And she'd go, what?

[B]

Huh?

[A]

And I'd be like, get away from me. A lunatic. Like, what do you mean?

[C]

I'm a little.

[A]

I'm like, I don't. Have a nice day, ma'.

[B]

Am.

[A]

Just leave. But my point is, the idea of the S test is that women want to see if their men are strong. And the truth is white men are not strong. White men are split between liberals and let's put it this way, what did Curtis Yarvin say? Conservatives treat power the way a wine snob treats alcohol and liberals treat power the way an alcoholic treats alcohol. So you've got conservatives going, well, I never. I believe I will leave this establishment because you have smeared feces on the wall. And the liberals are going, I can smear feces on the wall right now in a place I don't own and you can't do anything about it. What is more powerful? The guy who walks into your fancy restaurant, smears feces on the wall while saying, do something. Or the guy in the show going, oh, well, I'm leaving.

[D]

Well, to be fair, I think this is probably contained who guy? And I think this is probably contained to like the rabid mentally ill liberal women because you still see like, we call it revealed presence, revealed preference. Right. Where like someone will say they want one thing on paper, but then in actuality, what they do choose is something else. And what we do see in the dating market, or the sex market, everyone to call it, is that white men still overwhelmingly dominate. Right. Even ethnic minority women will typically choose white men at the highest rate. We see this on like dating.

[A]

Yes, but it's the high end of the bell curve.

[D]

This is, this is just. This is just the. But I guess what I'm saying is

[A]

the men they're choosing are going to be on the higher end of the bell curve.

[D]

Right. But what I'm trying to like reveal preference where I do think, yes, with like these really deranged left wing women. They do kind of want that Jungle Fever sort of thing. But like, again, what do you see on the dating market? By and large, they want to. They want to pair with white men.

[B]

Well, they want to pair with white men who have balls and tell them to shut up.

[D]

I don't know. But look, look like AOC and Elon Omar are dating, like, pansy white guys. Like, and they're not.

[A]

But hold on.

[B]

She's injecting herself. She's trying to freeze her eggs. She hasn't slept with her boyfriend in over a year.

[D]

He plays a vasectomy.

[B]

I just made that up, by the way. But I'm it. I feel good.

[D]

How many guys always get to me and they get clapped?

[A]

Nothing is absolute. Of course. Some women really are just, like, you know, they're butch, they're strong, they're tomboyish. They want to be left alone. That's always fine. You can do it at uni. Some men are sissies. They're feminine, they're dainty, and they want a woman to smack them around, like, do your thing, bro. I don't care. But the reality is, overall, majority of women want to have kids, want to prioritize being with their kids, laughing with their kids, raising their kids. Men overwhelmingly want to prioritize the goals and their objectives. They do also want family. But there's an inverse relationship. If the right side is goals and accomplishment and the left side is family, men lean slightly in one direction, women slightly in the other. They are. It is bimodal. But I tell you this. Women who have kids want a strong man who will protect them from danger.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

The woman wants to look at the child and say, I'm gonna keep you safe. Then looks at the man and say, make sure nobody comes and messes with us. She's gonna make sure the child doesn't fall down face first into a fork or stick her fingers on the power outlet. But the guy needs to watch the perimeter. That's the. That's that. That is the dual relationship. The. The. I bring this up because when all of the. All the woke stuff that we see, when you've got talk of the patriarchy, it's almost like a national level S test. You're not going to have success with women when they feel like the men in their society will not watch the perimeter for them. And so what happens? They invite every other man in who is taking whatever they want.

[D]

That's it. I think it's the other way around. I think the reason why a lot of these progressive women, or women, by and large, really like immigrants, is it's more because they tug on their maternal instincts where since they're not that too.

[B]

That's not. The two are not mutually exclusive.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And as far as the grape stuff, I think that's more European. I think the. The I want to take in this stray dog is more North American.

[D]

I think that's true.

[B]

But here's an example. You know that woman at the poker who said, you said this separates the men from the boys. And she's like, I'm neither. When that woman is at a bachelor party and they've rented a sprinter van and they're got feather boas on, they are listening to the most sexist and offensive drill rap, and they all know the lyrics, and they're wearing their nice dresses with their white Reeboks, and they've got these gang signs as they're like, all the want to f me. And I like that to shoot them in the head. And they're doing the things, and they're twerking to, like, stuff that if we ever said, they'd have a heart attack. So I think they like that stuff. They love gangster rap.

[A]

That's. That's. That's the S test, man. Like, bro, my whole life when I've had women say dumb woke things, I would just be like, that's stupid. Yeah, that's dumb. I had one. I had this one, this woman that. We were friends, we were almost dating, and we stopped talking because she said something about transgender and, like, man being a woman or whatever. And then I just said something like, well, I mean, a trans woman is a trans woman, not a woman woman, right? She's like, no, trans women are women. And then I was like, so you think like, a trans man is a man? She's like, yes. And I'm like, well, a trans man is a trans man. Like, I got no problem saying that. Like, I'll use whatever pronoun they want. She's like, no, they're men. And I said, okay, so you're. Are you gay? And she's like, no. And I said, okay, so are you attracted to women? She was like, no. And I said, so if a trans man was, like, hitting on you, you would be attracted. You could be attracted to the person? She goes, I could learn.

[B]

I could learn.

[A]

So she said to me, and I said, that sounds like conversion therapy. And she flipped out. And I was like. I was like, dude, you just told me you could learn to be sexually attracted to a person with a hoo hoo instead of a ding dong. Okay, that's you converting. And she was like, this is. This is white supremacy. I can't. And I'm like, later, ladies. I'm like, you're a nut bag. Yeah, we don't have to be friends.

[D]

Well, and I think what you're getting is. I think that's I think that's ultimately what they're looking for is, like, if you're agreeable, that's, like, really off putting to women, because you'll see. Again, to go back to revealed preference, where liberal women will talk about how they want a man that seemingly has all the esthetics that you would expect of a chud, right? Like, they're like, I want a guy that drives a truck and has a cowboy hat and has muscles or whatever, as long as he's a progressive. Well, those don't really exist, right? They're LARPing. If that does exist, I think what's going on there. It's revealed preference, where they're saying, I want a conservative man because he'll tell me no. I want a conservative man because he is disagreeable. And women do want disagreeableness because that shows that if something is wrong, they will address that directly. So I don't know if it's as much as, like, they're interested in, like. Like, immigrants because they're. I mean, that might exist to some degree. I think what you're seeing a lot of right now, at least in the United States, is liberal women who hate the fact that they are very attracted to chuds. When I used to do stuff in New York with a lot on the ground, it was really funny because we would have these, like, disgusting liberal women come up to me in a laud and, like, they would come up to us and be like, you just want to come and, like, just conquer me, don't you? And it was purely because they saw us as, like, these enemies who were gonna come and, like, take them away. They love. They were, like, super into that, obviously. They were, like, coding it in this, like, this political language where they're like, you're disgusting. You're a freak. You just want to come and just put me in a suit. And we were like. Like, like, yeah, put us in, like, a handmaid's tail suit. And we're like, okay, this is a little awkward. And you saw the same thing with the ICE protests, where they were like, you just want to come and just like, it's you. And you're like, whoa.

[A]

It reminds me of that south park episode where they made fun of Mel Gibson where he's like, you guys just want to see how much you could fit in there. Go ahead, try it. I can take it. Do your best.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I think that's what you see the most of right now is like, they're attracted to conservative men, but they can't quite admit it. So they'll just say, I want a guy. And then they just describe all the aesthetics of.

[A]

A lot of those.

[B]

Nazis get laid like crazy too. I'm convinced L. Reeve banged Richard Spencer. She was investigating him and that's how she got such good access to the Tiki Torch guys, because she was smoking their. Their top dog. It's just a theory, but it's a vibe I get and I'm usually pretty good.

[A]

There was a big story like eight years, like eight years ago, like 2018. It was a super viral Reddit post where it was this woman and it was the 2x chromosome subreddit, which is like the feminist subreddit. And she was talking about how she feels guilty because she's super attracted to just MAGA dudes. And her fantasy is this 6 foot 3 ripped guy wearing a MAGA hat, just taking her, pinning her down and just going at it. And she's like, I don't know how to feel about this, but I just. The thought of it, like, just heats me up. And all the women responding were like, you need to get over your trauma or thing. But like, every conservative was laughing and sharing it, being like, yeah, you know,

[B]

have you heard of this phenomenon where when women are on birth control, what's happening is their system is telling them that they're pregnant.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so they don't produce the proper apartment for the baby to move into. And when you're in that state, a pregnant state, you want to be around a man, your brother, your brother. So they end up marrying their brother. Like Andy Campbell of Huffington Post comes to mind with his wife Tess.

[A]

See, is he, is he relevant anymore?

[B]

What's, what's her name? Tish. Tish. Owen.

[A]

Tess. Owen Tess Owens.

[C]

Owens.

[B]

Yeah. I think. What happened. How do you know?

[A]

These people are just like the woke stalk me.

[B]

They felt they met writing about proud boys and me and hate.

[A]

They haven't been relevant.

[B]

I created love examination of my hate. But with that couple, I see it as. So you get off the birth control and then you're no longer attracted to your brother and you're like, I married my brother. What kind of a pervert.

[A]

Well, they smell bad too.

[B]

And they smell different.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

These women talk about a vile smell. Like it just makes them want to throw up.

[A]

So they, they, they. They advise women to get off birth control for three months before agreeing to marriage.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

To make sure the smell is there, they. There's this really great documentary called Science of Sex. And they did this funny thing where they had men run on Treadmills, then take their shirts off and put them in a. In a jar. Then they had women come into a room where they did not see any of the men and sniff each jar and rate them whether it smelled good or bad. Surprise, surprise. The women who smelled the shirts belonging to their siblings said it was disgusting.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. So it's just a white shirt and it's not, oh, that one's gross. And they didn't know whose shirt it was, and it was their brother. Yeah.

[B]

Well, if you notice the thread here, it's stop breeding, Stop having sex. AOC is like, don't worry about babies. You can make them later. That woman on the front page of the magazine is saying, freeze your eggs. These birth control pills are making women attracted to brotherly, like, figures. All of this is like anti sex, anti marriage, anti children. It's all about extinction.

[D]

Well, that's. I mean, that's why they've speculated.

[A]

Wait, wait, I'm sorry. I want to.

[B]

I'm freezing. Oh, I got it.

[A]

I got it.

[D]

Just real quick. I mean, this is why they talk about how women on birth control are attracted to less masculine men is because it nukes your fertility. Right. Your fertile phase. And so that's when women, like, desire masculine features the most. So when they're on birth control, they're attracted to much less masculine men because they're not fertile. They're not actively looking for, like, masculine features. They're looking for stability, which is, like, what they've basically cope with. Which means they're just looking for, like, a. Like a. Basically.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And that's.

[A]

I was gonna pull up the Captain Planet population bomb video we did last time, but it's been removed.

[D]

Oh, no.

[B]

Never tell you about. People think this is weird, but I have a cuck fetish.

[D]

Really?

[B]

And it is. Yeah. It's those guys that want to see someone, you know, be with their wife.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Sit on a chair. I'm attracted to those guys. So I'll sit in it.

[A]

You like watching that?

[B]

Sit in the chair and please myself staring at them. And they're watching the event Inception. It sounds confusing when you say cuck fetish, but it's really. I'm a cuck cuck.

[A]

Oh, that explains

[B]

an Inuit word originally.

[A]

So are. Are you familiar with. Let me. Let me pull this up. Actually, Captain Planet had an episode where they told everybody not to have kids.

[C]

Oh, insane.

[A]

Yeah, the. The. The episode was a building is collapsing, and he's like, the people on Hope island have been having too many kids. And then at the end. They're like, you shouldn't have big families. After all, everyone in the world is your brother and sister.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, they. They took it down.

[B]

How about you? First Third World. We'll start with you, and then I'll be last in line.

[D]

It's interesting, in the third World, their birth rates have been dropping like a rock. So it kind of dispels all of these, like, lab code explanations for why the birth rate is dropping. So the explanation in the west was, well, when we industrialize, there's no longer in need here.

[A]

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Did you know the population of the world is now more than 5 billion? Wow, that is a lot of billion. I wish by 90 million people each year.

[D]

But the Earth is not getting any bigger.

[B]

So when it is your turn to

[A]

have a family, keep it small. There are the more pregnant we put on our planet.

[D]

We translate this into Hindi on our

[A]

Earth and conserve what you can, the power.

[B]

And in the next episode, he goes, hey, kids, did you realize the American population, as far as the natives go, like the people born here, they're basically contributing nothing to population growth. 100% of population growth in America is immigrants.

[A]

We need more of that.

[B]

Why? We have to close our borders and make sure we stop this massive population boom we're getting from the Mexicans.

[D]

Captain Maga, that'd be nice.

[A]

Well, if it was only just Mexicans, but it's Eritreans.

[D]

It's.

[A]

It's like from West Africa. It's.

[D]

Well, and this is Haitian. This is what I said.

[B]

What's interesting is you're 80, 90% Mexicans.

[A]

It's not.

[D]

Not anymore.

[A]

It's Guatemala. Tanduras, Hispanic bird. Mexico offered asylum to all these people and they said no. Yeah.

[B]

I would like to see the breakdown of who is breeding the most in America.

[A]

Well, yes, maybe, but in the Biden era, he let in 10 million people that were from Central America that moved through Mexic.

[C]

Right, right, right.

[D]

Well, it's interesting in Trump too. The white birth rate's gone up for the first time in, like 50 years. And it's actually. Yeah, so.

[A]

Well, it's because of that secret program the liberals don't know about, where Trump is giving a million dollars to white people to have babies.

[D]

Exactly. They don't know about it.

[B]

Well, a huge part of the more people having babies too, is obviously boners.

[D]

Yeah, so true. RFK is really getting, getting the job done. Well, I think a lot of it's just because, like, white people feel like they have a future in the country for the first time 50 years. So that's primarily what it is.

[B]

Well, hopefully these people like when you lie regularly, surely someone can see the remnants like a college being a gyp and going a quarter million dollars. Surely there's a little sister who's whose biggest eldest sister is like 10 years older than her and she goes, yeah, I saw what my, my sister did. She went to Brown and she got a degree in speech pathology and Hispanic theater and how that relates to racism. And she's screwed. So I'm not doing that. Yeah, hopefully that's happening with breeding too. I saw how miserable my sister was or my aunt.

[D]

Yeah, I think you're gonna see some, you're gonna see something give with Gen Alpha because Gen Alpha, like zoomers still caught at least my. I'm like in the upper half of zoomers. I was born in oh one. So we still like kind of experienced a lot of the same things millennials experience. But I think younger zoomers and Gen Alpha are going to see how miserable life ended up being for Gen Xers and millennials and I do think they will react accordingly. Will they react in mass? Who knows?

[A]

Oh, dude. But it's going to be a nuclear bomb.

[D]

It's going to be bizarre, whatever, all

[A]

the time, you know? You know. Do you know what the city's got running away? The population this Gen Alpha is half the size of Gen Z and Millennial. So they're going to look around and being like, you have destroyed us.

[D]

Yeah, they're going to be, they're going to have a chip on their shoulder.

[A]

Yeah, they're going to be as they're going to be so far right. They're going to be like underneath the compass.

[D]

Millennials, like millennials have this weird trauma because they saw what was supposed to be theirs and then didn't get it. And then zoomers have a little bit of that. Gen Alpha is like truly the first generation who felt like they had nothing to lose in the first place. Like they, they never thought they were going to get anything because they saw what happened to the millennials and zoomers. They don't feel it really entitled to much. So they're going to be a very bizarre generation to watch. Age. I'm not like, I'm not black pilled on them necessarily. I just know whatever their sociological like development is going to be is going to be very weird. Also their, their core development era ages were during COVID which I think is going to have some interesting impacts on them too. But something else talking about earlier is we've seen the birth rate decline rapidly in the third world, which no one's really talking about. Like, India's gone sub replacement. Wow. So a lot of these economists and other, like, sociologists were like, oh, well, the birth rate went down in the first world because when everyone industrialized, they no longer needed kids, they no longer needed farm hands. They started having less kids. And people were like, okay, that made sense. But then we started seeing the birth rate drop in countries that weren't fully industrialized, like, at the time, China. And so then they moved on to, well, when women get education, they no longer feel the need to pair up with men because they can provide for themselves. Well, we started seeing other countries that still had, like, strong masculine roles in society. Their birth rate started dropping. Now they're really dumbfounded because we're seeing countries like India, countries that tick none of those boxes, their birth rates are dropping off. Even Mali, they've gone from, like, eight, nine kids per woman down to four, and it's declining rapidly. Yeah, Molly. So what we're seeing all across that.

[C]

Molly.

[D]

Yeah, so what we're seeing across the third world is the birth rate dropping, like, rapidly. And I think what the explanation for that is, in addition to perhaps across the world is, is comparison. You're comparing yourself to other people. So if you're in the third, if you're, like, in a village in India and you're looking at, like, bombshells from Sweden on your Instagram all day, how can you possibly settle for, like, a woman in your village with brow? Like, you're never going to do that.

[B]

That is a terrible theory.

[D]

I know. Well, no, I think it's because you

[B]

think third rolls are breeding less because they're ugly.

[D]

That's part of it, yeah. It's a chopped emmic. But I think. But I think. But I think it's true. And I think this is true because you're seeing. I think this is what's going on in the first world is a lot of people, they don't want to, like, settle. They want to wait on, like, the, you know, maybe a bigger fish. And you're seeing this in the third world, where a lot of women, you'll see this on Instagram and TikTok all the time, is they're like, I. I dream of moving to New York one day. And so, like, they will never, never settle for just being, like, some guy in a village or some gal in a village.

[B]

Well, the predominant explanation for this is wealth. And they say the reason Mexico's birth rate isn't what it used to be is because they have more money. And I don't know why this is, but for some reason, when a culture has more disposable income, they tend to have less kids.

[D]

The problem is America bucks that trend. So America has the highest birth rate in the developed world, even among white Americans, and we have the most disposable income per capita in the entire world, bar none. Even higher than, like, Hong Kong. So the problem with that is, like, United States ends up being this weird case study. Maybe it's evangelicals, because evangelicals have a lot of kids and, like, America is this weird synthesis of, like, very wealthy and very religious. And that's kind of unique.

[B]

Are you sure that whites in America are breeding enough to replace themselves?

[D]

They're not at replacement yet, but it's evangelicals and Catholics are above replacement. And the white birthright rate in general is going up under Trump, and they're about to eclipse and be the highest in the country. The Asians still breed higher, but we're higher than Hispanics, way higher than blacks, because they kill all their kids and they would have a higher fertility, but they have the highest abortion.

[A]

There's actually the Mennonites in the. In the Amish. There's one theory that in 100 years, they'll dominate the country because their birth rate is so high and everyone else is.

[D]

Well, they'll dominate. They'll dominate presidential elections because Pennsylvania demographically will always be a swing state, and they're going to start determining elections in Pennsylvania.

[A]

Gavin, do you know what. Do you know what the population of how many. You know how many millennials there are in the United States?

[B]

3.2 million?

[A]

80 million?

[B]

Well, roughly, yeah.

[A]

You know how many Gen Z there is?

[B]

Obviously 97 million.

[A]

It's like 78 million. You know how many gen alpha there is?

[B]

100 million?

[A]

42. Oh, no, it is half the size. So how do you fund Social Security? When Gen Xers are about to enter the Social Security age and boomers are in it, it's gone. So you need. You need between 2.8 and 4 laborers paying Social Security to fund one recipient. What happens? So I imagine pending any kind of technological advance or intervention, you're going to get the older demographic voting to tax the younger demographic at a higher rate. They're going to say, increase Social Security tax to accommodate the older people. And they're going to say, we paid into it. It's ours. We deserve it. The problem is that money's got to come from somewhere. They're going to go to the 18 year olds for which there's half of as many as there used to be 20, you know, 18 years ago. And they're going to say the new cap on Social Security is going to be 250, not 125. So you're getting double taxed.

[B]

Okay, what about this as a solution? This young, these younger demographic, in order for them to have more money, they freeze their eggs, they live in a pod, they don't own anything and they eat bugs.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Now they have more money to give us retired Gen Xers solution.

[D]

That's certainly what the.

[B]

I think Social Security is gone.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Pensions. Like you hear boomers talk about pensions and like, well, now he's getting two pensions because when he first retired he got a new job, Gen X and down, outside of like civil servants, they're not going to see any pension.

[D]

I think the outlook's much grimmer than that, is that we know that politically it's like one of the first things you learn in Polyci is we can't touch entitlement spending because the elderly are the ones that dominate elections and they will punish you at the ballot box if you touch Social Security, if you touch Medicare. I think the outlook's even more grim, which is instead in 2033, when Social Security goes insolvent, they just crank up the taxes even more to pay for it. This is what happened. This is what's been happening in France where France, like Macron tried to bump the retirement age up like two years and they had riots in the streets. And so I think what's going to end up happening, 2033, Social Security goes insolvent. They just say we need a new payroll tax, we need a new corporate tax. We're going to start. They're going to use Trump's tariffs and they're going to.

[A]

And they're going to blame it on the rich. They're going to say, well it's. The rich aren't paying their fair share so we're going to increase this tax. They're going to lie and then what's going to happen is regular these, these Gen Z people are going to, are going to get their first paycheck. You guys remember your first paycheck? Yep, I remember my first paycheck, Sunny's gas station. And I went, hold on there a minute. Yeah, my first paycheck when I worked at my family. So my first job, I was nine. I worked at my family's shop. I didn't have paychecks, I just got pig tips when I got, my first job was at a Portillo in Chicago and I was getting paid like, I don't know, like 9:25 an hour or something. I didn't, I don't know anything. I, I, no, I think it was like seven something an hour. So when I got my check, I didn't count my hours. I was 16, didn't really know anything. My paycheck's like 100 bucks and I'm like, let's go. And then I had 100 bucks. When I was 18, I got a job at American Airlines and I worked 40 hours and I was getting paid like 1025 an hour. So I did the math, calculated my taxes, and then I said, here's how much money I should have on payday, which I need for these bills and everything. I get my check. And it was like 60 bucks. And yeah, and I was like, what? And then all the old guys in the room started laughing their asses off and they were like, you first, first time. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. What's going on?

[B]

That's 340.

[A]

It was in tax. It was, I can't remember exactly what it was. There was like union dues were taken out which was like $24. Then there was taxes and then there was some like BS work related, like first paycheck nonsense, like related to like UO for uniform and things like that. And like, so I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm like, I, I don't have any money. So I had to, I had to call my dad like I need money. I was like, I got my first paycheck and it's nothing in it because like I owe for uniform. I owe for like name badge. I know, for like weird processing things. Then my next check comes out and I'm like, this should be better. And it was worse. And I'm like, I don't understand how they're taking so much. And they're like, welcome to taxes. And I'm like, yeah, but I'm poor. I can't afford rent, I can't afford shoes, I can't pay gas. My car broke down, I can't make enough money to. And I ended up just like, I worked there for two years and took the train for a while and it's like, it was impossible. What's going to happen for Gen Z is that frustration won't just be a frustration. Many of these young people aren't going to have the ability to call their parents and ask for help.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so what's going to happen is they're going to break from that system. They're going to just reject it completely.

[B]

They also get this tsunami of apathy where they, they don't even care about money anymore. It's become so. It's sort of like the debt. When you hear about these trillions of dollars we owe, your brain just goes. It shuts down and goes, I, I, we can't afford that. Young. I know as someone who's hired millennials and zoomers, I'll say, like, you got to work this weekend because we're off Monday, Tuesday. And they're like, I can't. And I'm like, okay, what about I pay a thousand bucks and. And we call it a day? And they'll be like, I wish I could, but. And it's like going to the beach or something. They're not, they're not going in for a heart transplant, you know. And then I would start adding money even though I had no intention of paying it, just to see.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I would get up to like, 10 grand. And they're like, oh, God, I wish. It's clearly very important to you. And you're like, 10 grand? I would never offer that, but I just did as a joke, and you said, no.

[D]

Well, that's why I think they're going to be able to get away with so. So right now, there's about 2.8 workers for beneficiary in the United States. In 10 years, it'll be like 2.1. So right now, Social Security rate for an employee is 6.2%. They're going to have to raise it to about 9% in order to pay for Social Security in 2033. That's not even talking about any of the other entitlements. The employer is going to match that at 9%. Like, that might not sound like a lot. That's like a 40% increase. That will destroy the economy.

[A]

It's.

[D]

That will destroy the economy, the structure

[A]

of economy, the fractional reserve system and the Federal Reserve function off of a growing population. That's it. End of story. It's a Ponzi scheme that only works when you add new labor. And we can't anymore because Gen Alpha is half the size of Gen Z. So what they're trying to do is flood the country with migrants to make up for that deficit. And that's not working either because it's causing cultural revolt and it results in a Trump who then reverses these policies.

[B]

Don't seem to be working.

[A]

You can't replace a middle, middle manager with a Honduran farmer. I'm sorry, you stupid idea in the first.

[D]

You can't do that. To your point, most of them aren't even working. I mean, there's estimates coming out from CIS where like literally the majority of foreign born people in the United States are on some form of government assistance. So it's like, and that's Somalis and that's the United States where like compared to Europe we're at least getting like somewhat decent immigrants compared to Europe where like 80% of them are on the government teat. So you're getting like immigrants that aren't even like, like backfilling the loss in labor that we need because the population has declined. And then in addition to that, what I outlined earlier, they're not even having kids now. So like in 50 years, what are you going to do when the third world's not even having. They're not going to have excess population to send. What do you do then? You're just going to like, no matter what, young people are going to get screwed no matter what. There's no way around it. Like we're heading towards Bronze Age. Pervert was talking about this on his podcast. We are heading towards Geritocracy. There's no way around it. Like what we saw during COVID is going to look like a day in the park compared to what. But the old, I can't use the word. The old people are going to impose on young people.

[A]

I have predicted that we will see the dystopian nightmare scenario is that young people are indentured until the age of like 24 and they're going to be like 100% of your labor goes towards supporting society. And they're going to push this DSA socialism on young people for the purpose of having them be like, yes, don't worry, you, you have to work and we'll take care of you. And these young people will get the utter bare minimum.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Their excess labor will be given to the elderly to sustain their Social Security.

[D]

We're seeing it now where we're seeing this like it's the most indefensible system ever. This wealth transfer from the young. The old Russ Green, in the American mind, he, he gave the perfect term, total luxury boomer communism. That is like the current system in the United States. It is the perfect term.

[B]

The acronym spelled something funny.

[D]

Yeah, he maybe should workshop the, the abbreviation. But he was talking about this back in like September. He totally saw around this corner because now we're seeing. I won't even bring it up because people get mad when I bring it up. The certain policy proposals that are leading to total luxury boomer communism. But, like, it's getting worse. It's going to get worse. There's no way around it. Like J.D. vance might. He has to play a perfect game for eight years to get us out of this. And like Trump, he already got wrapped up in the Iran war. So the idea that we're going to play a Perfect game for 10 more years looks a bit iffy.

[B]

Can I say something very unpopular? Yes, yes, the young people are correct. It is basically impossible to buy a house. Yes, the boomers made a lot of money, but, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I hope I don't get assassinated on the way back to the hotel tonight. But the boomers did work pretty hard.

[D]

I agree.

[B]

And they like, my bassinet was a sock drawer. Cause my parents were still in college when I was born. They would just like. And my parents picked up. They left Glasgow, they went to London where I was born. And then there was an opportunity in Canada. They're on the plane. They had mobility and grit. And you know, a typical example is they see some of these home rental things on YouTube where it's like, we renovated a castle. And they're like, look at these boomers. They live in a castle. And then you find out they bought it. It for nothing. Yes. But it was completely overrun with weeds. It had been abandoned for 100 years. They scrubbed every brick. And yes, it is a palace now. It took 60 years to build or even that. Remember that couple with the, the, the Automatic web, the AR15s during the riot.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they live in a giant mansion. Well, go check out that mansion. When they got it, there was weeds growing through the window. They spent decades renovating that place. So it's a very unpopular thing to say.

[D]

I think you're right.

[B]

Boomers busted their ass. And they did have a gold. A silver spoon in many ways after their degree and everything. But like, my dad grew up with no shoes and that wasn't uncommon for boomers to like, have to wear their brother's shoes and put, you know, newspapers in where the hole was.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I workshop the acronym for you.

[B]

What do you got?

[A]

The Vociferous Authoritative Gerontocratic Institutional National Administration flower. Vociferous.

[B]

I don't know how catchy that is. It's no scuba.

[D]

Say it again.

[A]

The Vociferous Authoritative Gerontocratic Institutional National Administration.

[B]

Oh, I thought the acronym spelled vociferous.

[A]

No, no, that's just the first word.

[B]

And what does that sound like? Voila.

[A]

I think. I think date figured it out. Vociferous, authoritative, gerontocratic, institutional, national. Ah, administration.

[B]

Sounds like Regina.

[D]

Great city.

[A]

Yeah, it spells something good just for you.

[D]

I agree that I was talking about this with Doyle today. Doyle is on the show. You should go watch it. It's up on the tape, Brown Channel. And, like, a lot of things gets missed. Like, I'm not trying to, like, instigate a generational that's, like, terrible for the country if you have, like, this generational war where the boomer zoomers are all lazy and the zoomers think boomers got everything handed to them. It's like they're both. Neither are. Yeah, both are.

[A]

Right.

[D]

It's like, no, there's actually, like, blaming everything on the boomers is kind of ridiculous for many ways. And one in one ways, they're kind of like the last bulwark. If you look at voting patterns, like, boomers are the only ones that are, like, actually voting for, like, the candidates that we like. So something needs to be said about that. And then to your point, like, yes, they grew up in a time with, like, exceptional economic mobility, but that doesn't, like, take away from the fact that they. They created a lot of the world we live in now. Like, all these big companies that we have now, a lot of these technological advancements, all the music that people love, especially zoomers, like, we love music, like, we love the Smiths. It's like they're all boomers. Like, these are all boomers. So it's like next generation. Yeah, so it's like, you know, yes, there's a lot of problems, and I've outlined a lot of them. But, yeah, this idea that, like, boomers are responsible for everything, it's like, I don't think that's necessarily true.

[B]

I just want you to take the good things from the boomers, like the mobility and the grid and the having the kids early and getting married early without a huge plan.

[D]

I guess what the problem trying to say is I do feel entitled. Like, they say zoomers are so entitled. It's like, yeah, I am. Like, I feel entitled to what my parents had and what my parents said.

[A]

Gavin. So boomers, on average own two houses. 75% of boomers own, at least own a home. And many of them own more than one. Gen X. About 70. 70% owns one home. Millennials, 50% own a home. Gen Z. It's something like 20% own a home. The issue is, I'll put it like this. When Fukushima happened in Japan, a bunch of elderly Japanese showed up to do the emergency work in the reactor saying, look, I'm old, I had my chance. It's time for the younger generation to take everything, so I'll sacrifice myself for them. In the United States, the boomers are like, I paid into Social Security, so I deserve it. And that's my house. I worked for it, and I'm not gonna let someone take it from me. Young people have no homes. They can't get married, they can't have kids. And the boomers are like, it's mine. It's, it's. And I know it's funny is whenever I say stuff like this, I get messages from boomers being like, hey, look, I know you can't rag on us because we did this. I'm like, listen, listen. You can feel however you want to feel about it. I don't care, Right? In Japan, elderly people walked into a nuclear reactor to die because they said it's time for the young people to inherit the world. The boomers are saying, yes, but I worked for it and it's mine. That's fine. You're allowed to believe that. I'm just saying one society will do well by their young people despite the fact they're not having kids. Our society is going to take from them and they will stop. They will not flourish.

[B]

I think. Well, I think you're forgetting that a lot of these boomers are ending up buying homes for their kids or giving them home number two.

[A]

You want to know what's going to happen?

[B]

What?

[A]

Boomers are at the mortality cliff. Life expectancy is 79 and boomers just turned 80. So we're going to start seeing a large die off of boomers who, who own disproportionately these homes and that they use for rental properties or second homes or vacation homes. Their millennial kids are going to inherit it. No, I'm not forgetting Gen X boomers tend to have millennial children, not Gen X children. Though older boomers do have some Gen X children. The millennials will inherit these homes, but they don't live in rural Nebraska where the home is and it's worth 400, $500,000. So they move to Chicago or St. Louis or Los Angeles and they get a call from a lawyer saying, you know, following the funeral, we need to talk about estate planning. You inherited your parents house. And they're gonna say, I don't wanna live in rural Nebraska. I'm gonna say, well, what do you wanna do? And they say, put it on the market. Guess what? Millennials don't have money and can't buy houses. So they're gonna put it on the market, appraised for 500,000. And then they're gonna say, no one is offering anything on that house. And then, and then the kid who inherited is going to say, well the old middle aged man or woman is going to say, drop the price. I don't want to deal with it. I'll take what I can get. And they'll go, let's put it at 4. No one will offer to buy it. Why? Because all of the millennials who normally would are in the same boat. The price is going to drop way down. And here's the best part. They just made it illegal for institutional investors to buy houses, which means the offers that you could get from a blackrock or whatever is off the table. The house is going to drop to zero because no one wants to move to the middle of nowhere. And how do I know this? It's already happening. In Japan. They're called the Kias. Young people have moved away from these prefectures and they moved to big urban centers because they want to be around other young people. And there's very few young people. So all of these places have aging populations and 20% are young. So they all move from the rural areas into the, into the urban area to live near each other. Now you've got whole cities that are effectively abandoned, turning into Detroit or into Gary, Indiana. And the value of these properties, 10 bedroom house, $50,000 US. 3 bedroom house, $10,000 US in some instances. There's videos where all an old jacket. There's one video I watched where an old Japanese man sees young white tourists and says, please, please take the house. You can have it because otherwise it falls apart, it collapses and there's want someone there. We're going to see this in the United States. As boomers start dying, the value of homes is going to collapse like crazy. This will be a massive period of let's you know, this might be the fourth turning. This might be the great collapse period we get in this generation. Gen Z will finally be able to buy houses. Because I'll say this, where we are right now In West Virginia five years ago, there was a bungalow, three bedrooms, $200,000. And one of my friends was like, I should, I should probably buy that, you know, nice little bungalow. You know, it's, it's on, it's on Two acres. They didn't. Today, it's half a million dollars. It sold for, like, 475.

[B]

Because you're near D.C. we're close enough

[A]

to D.C. but we are pretty far away in the middle of nowhere. It's because the high prices are just skyrocketing. Like, my wife and I were looking at a house that was listed originally for, like, 300, and then after like, a year or two, we looked again and it was 475. We went and checked it out, and it was not, not worth it. It needed 100 grand in work. It had a fridge from the 70s. So we told them 300, and they were like, no, we'll sell. And they did. And this was, like a year ago. That's all going to change. And the prices are going to correct.

[B]

Saying two things at once. Homes are going so cheap. They're not. They're not. They're worth nothing.

[A]

No, no, no. Homes are going up, right? In the past year, home prices skyrocketed.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

Boomers are going to die, and the prices are going to collapse to near zero.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's a. It's a tidal wave where everything shot straight up and then to the ground. It's going to get real weird because housing is a. Is a root foundation of the economy. So what happens when there's some Gen Xer who owns a house that he bought for 500k 2 years ago and he's got a mortgage on it? The boomers all die off. Millennials can't buy houses. And now the value of that house is 200k. He can't sell it. He's underwater. And so he's trapped. What do I do? Declare bankruptcy? Walk away. You can surrender the property is what we've seen people do. They call the bank and they say, it's yours. I'm done. I'm going to save money. If I stop paying on it, just surrender it, then the bank will try and sell it for dirt, and they won't get their money back. So that's going to have a ripple effect on all products. So I've been talking to people about what to invest in, and I'm thinking, nothing. Hold cash.

[B]

This is a good segue to your next sponsor. This is why I use flyright Investments.

[A]

Did you see the Ben Shapiro thing where he was talking about Lindsey Graham's death and then segued into a commercial? Yeah. You guys can't do that, man.

[B]

Lobo Cask.

[A]

He was like. Or no, no, he was like. You know, everybody, of course, has Been super angry about Lindsey, about what Lindsey Graham stood for. And it's been very stressful. Of course they're gonna attack me. And everybody gets attacked. And when you do, you feel pretty stressed out. That's why. That's literally what it was. And it's just like, wow, come on, guys. You can't. There are certain videos you don't put ads on. Okay, yeah, you know, like, Colgate doesn't want to be on your school just got bombed in Iran video. You know what I mean?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Remember that commercial from. It was. It showed the Ukraine air raid sirens, and then it showed the guy shaking his ass to Applebee's.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And everyone was like, this is late stage capitalism.

[C]

There was the, the thing that Tucker did this Monday, the big long ten point thing. He was talking about how debts, debt basically equals slavery. And then right in the middle of that, he had a. A finance your house ad.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. You're talking about a lender.

[A]

Well, that actually makes sense.

[C]

I mean, he was saying that you shouldn't have to finance stuff that you shouldn't live, you know, debt slavery. I mean, I guess, I guess the fact that he was. He might probably was referring to. Referring to credit card interest rates and stuff, that's bad.

[A]

But, you know, I'm a reformer, not a revolutionary. If like, I agree people should live based on the money they earn and not take on. Have to. Have to take on debt for these things, but you're not going to just eliminate that overnight. You want to advocate for reducing debt. And I'm actually a big fan of debt consolidation programs. Like, we have a few sponsors that do that stuff.

[B]

Oh, here we go.

[A]

And I'm not going to name them. You know, my point is that we reject a ton of sponsors too, but it is legitimate that if you've got 29.9% credit card debt and you can consolidate that and pay 4%, it's helping, it's saving money, and everybody wins. I mean, your credit card company's gonna get pissed because they're milking the teat. The refinance company is gonna shift whatever you're. So you're paying this company 30% on top. Stop that. You pay 4% to this other company. They're making money now and they're happy, and your monthly bills have dropped. I think that I like that stuff. So I understand the crassness of turning it into a commercial. At the same time, that's a bit more tasteful than Lindsey Graham died. And we're stressed out. So you Know, like, I don't. If someone did. We've. We've done segments on, you know, finance, debt, the economy, and then had sponsors that were financed. I'm like, that makes sense. You know, if it's a company you don't believe in tripping people off, then you're just a dick.

[B]

I understand millennials and zoomers seeing the housing market and going, I give up. And that's. That's a totally understandable instinct. I just want them to know that. But they're not the first ones to grow up in poverty or with a bleak future. And I've seen they're not even.

[A]

I'm sorry. Like, finish your point. I'm sorry.

[B]

Grow some balls and take it on the chin. Get. You know, you say, I can't afford to move out. Cram, like, 10 dudes in a house. That's what we did. We.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I slept in the boiler room. There was people sleeping in the dining room. You just figured out I had a

[A]

studio in LA with three people. It was one big room.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

To be fair, the kitchen was like. The kitchen, I think, was maybe 10ft by 5ft. So it had a stove and a cabinet and a sink. Nobody slept in there, but two people slept in the. It was just one room and a. It was a bathroom. We had a bathroom, but the closet was like. It was like seven feet by. By four feet. And I'm like, I can lay in there.

[B]

I'm a king.

[A]

And so I was able to lay in there and have my laptop, and every night I would go in there and close the door, and I would play the Dark Knight on dvd, and I'd watch it every single night to the point where I could recite that movie line for line, verbatim. I wouldn't have a tv. I didn't have the Internet. So all I had was this one DVD to watch. What's the opening line in the Dark Knight? Well, admittedly, it has been 17 years since I watched every single night, but the first line in the movie might be, I'm not gonna know it verbatim, but it's. It's the two. It's. The guys are on the roof, and they shoot the thing across. They glide across the roof. And then he, like, checks his watch and I says. And he says something about like, are they ready? Or this joke?

[B]

Is that when he's doing his ninja

[A]

training, Is that the first line?

[C]

I think he says. He says, this joke. Guy's pretty crazy, huh? Or something like that.

[A]

I don't know. That's the first line and that.

[C]

But guy's a total nut.

[A]

Yeah. And then if I watch the movie, I can probably go through it still. Yeah, but that's just. I just lived in a closet. And you know what I would do? You know how to do? I would go to the little mercado next door and I would buy the tomatoes.

[C]

Three of a kind. Let's do this.

[A]

Ah, okay.

[C]

That's the very first line.

[A]

So there's a mercado and you know, Spanish market. I'd buy a pack of tortillas about this big for 50 cents. I bought a little mayonesa, which was 70 cents. And then tomatoes were like a nickel a piece. So I'd buy a bunch of tomatoes. I then put the tortillas on the gas stove with the tomatoes on and some mayonnaise. And that's all I would eat because I couldn't afford it. Now for a treat, I'd get a dollar, a 99 cent burger from, from Hardee's. I think it's called Carl's Jr. Out there. I can't remember which one. Yeah, but that was like. And you know what the thing is? People would always say, don't eat fast food. You're wasting your money. Go to the grocery store. And I'd say, listen, I have $1. I'm not buying a week's worth of groceries to make a meal.

[B]

I'm not buying a potato.

[A]

If I want protein, fats, salt and some veggies, I would go to Wendy's and I'd say, can I get a junior bacon cheeseburger? Can I get extra, extra, extra, extra extra tomatoes and extra, extra, extra, extra, extra onions? And they'd be like, okay. And they would just put seven tomatoes and like seven things of onions on it because it's free. And then I'd have this big massive sandwich to eat for a buck.

[B]

And those were your groceries.

[A]

And then, and then I'd grab a handful of ketchups, you know, for free. And I'd have ketchup at home.

[B]

So young people, if you're out there, don't freeze your eggs. Get married, have babies. You did get screwed. Your education is useless. It's the most expensive education in the history of education. Yeah, same with real estate. The, the $1.5 million is not attainable for a home. You're never going to own a home. That doesn't mean you give up. Move to rural Indiana, move wherever the job is and make babies.

[A]

You know what Kevin o' Leary said? He had this viral clip because he said your goal as an entrepreneur should. Should be to get $5 million in T bills at 5%. Because then you're getting 250 a year. $250,000 a year just from the 5 million T bills. And I just found that funny because it's like easier said than done.

[B]

Yeah. You're not kidding.

[A]

But also, you don't need five. If you, if you get $500,000 in cash and put in a high yield savings, you're going to do between 20 and 30,000 a year. That's a great start. That supplements your income.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And 500,000 is not easily attainable by most people, but it is obtainable by most people and it's not easily.

[B]

Right. It takes a while.

[A]

You work double shifts every day. You spend nothing and you save as much as you can. And you get that money in a high yield or you get a high yield ETF at like 8%.

[B]

And here's another thing young people don't know. Nothing makes you more money than having kids. It puts a fire under your ass. And all of a sudden, like, watching Netflix all weekend is not an option.

[A]

It's not. No, no, no. Come on, Gavin. It's because. It's because when you have more kids, the chance of one of them becoming famous goes up, up. And then they get in a movie. Harry Potter.

[D]

Boom.

[A]

You got millions of dollars.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You may have a little fresh prince of Bel air in there. You may have a little E. T. What was that, Elliot? You could have an Elliott in the family.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Macaulay Culkin.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

The guy from Malcolm in the Middle. He made his business manager a ton of money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, he might get into just

[A]

tell me many kids you can and one of them and try to get them all to be famous. And the ones that don't. Adoption.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

Shoot. A reality YouTube show. I had too many kids.

[A]

You know, it's really cringe right now is there was this viral video where this family put a microphone alive on their like 4 year old daughter as she snow. She was snowboarding. And it was incredibly cute. You're watching a snowboard and she's like, I can do it.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And then she falls down, gets millions of 50 million views. Now there's 10,000 channels of it. And it's just absolute cringe where parents are putting microphones on their toddlers to go around talking about stuff. And I'm like, just stop.

[B]

Yeah. While we're, we're giving out these instructions, do not make a reality show.

[A]

Of your family.

[C]

Don't even take pictures. Don't even put pictures of your kids on the Internet.

[B]

Like, I got pictures of your kids. Do not leave your phone.

[A]

Yeah, I, I, we're gonna go to your rumble. Rants and super chats. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life. We got this one from AK Storm. He says, tim, wonderful bait on your rooster post. Took the tactic right from the media, bearing the issue at the bottom and letting assumptions run rampant. I think I actually have this to. Did I pull this one up? Where is it? Okay, here you go. I tweeted, this debate is obviously going to be massive and everyone will want to see it. There's a lot of money on the line and I know, I know that people. I'm sorry. And I know that finding a good moderator is hard when top personalities and the choice personalities decline. I am offering to officially moderate this debate. The issue is too important to all of us as a nation to ignore. Though I obviously have my opinions on the debate matter at hand. And I believe I can be fair to all parties, even if they often express deep passion. Passion. Well, I said passionate passion, which some find offensive. I do not believe this one debate will solve any of the disagreements among the parties involved, nor will it substantially change the nature of social media. But the question of whether we should be allowed to own roosters in suburban areas is one worth debating. I stand ready to moderate the great backyard rooster debate and perhaps advance this important issue to the national stage. And guess what? Every single response and quote is. And I got 2000 replies. 200 retweets. Half a million views.

[B]

Huge.

[A]

And they're all like, let's see, this is what, peak trolling. No, thanks, bud. You're as far away from neutral as it gets. Sincerely, the entire world. Tim Poole's Crash out. I didn't say anything about Candace Owens. That's weird.

[B]

Why did you capitalize the RN Roosters?

[A]

Are you. Is that a joke?

[B]

If it makes me sound dumb, it's a joke. Yeah.

[A]

Well, do you capitalize the G and God?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

There's. Proper noun. Roosters are a. A legendary creature that we refer to as a proper name.

[B]

So you see roosters as a deity. You worship male chickens.

[A]

That's. That's why we have to have this debate.

[D]

It's very oriental.

[B]

Oh, I see.

[A]

I did, I did capitalize rooster on purpose. That's. The joke was like that. Roosters being elevated to this. The whole thing was a troll. So, So I saw Michael N's video where he was like, I am declining for this reason. And then I was like, I am going to make a post where the first half that's visible is a generic response about some kind of debate. Because I know all of the Kirk spirit. The Kirk spiritards won't even bother reading it because you have to be. So I'm gonna avoid swearing effing to believe this stuff about Egyptian planes and whatever that I know these people. They are. When you look up the word myopic, it's just pictures of candace Zoan's audience. 2000 replies from people who think the whole world exists in one sound bite. They don't think other shows exist. They don't understand that in Japan they're not talking about us. These are people who think the whole world is one dimensional. So I know that if I make a post that literally says I want to debate owning roosters because people don't know this, but roosters are banned in most suburban and urban areas. Chickens, it's 50 50. So in D.C. for instance, you're allowed to own, I think up to four chickens as long as they're not like some ridiculous is like 250ft from a property line unless you have a written permission from the neighbors. But you cannot own roosters. Now I think that's an affront to chicken ownership and roosters should be allowed. But the point is I know that the people who watch Candace don't actually read. They see a headline or a sound bite and it's instantly true in its entire. In its entirety. An entire assumptive capacity. Meaning when you say there is a debate in their brain, they fill a stadium with news articles and statements. None of it makes sense and none of it is related. What I was talking about now the one thing I considered was that maybe I should have said at the bottom. The question of whether or not men can play in the WNBA is massive and it strikes the heart of what woke is. And then I could have, when everyone started responding about stupid Candace stuff, I could have been like, what are you talking about? This is about the WNBA and the NBA. You, why are you making assumptions? This is obviously meant to troll all of these people.

[B]

Well, when I read it, I did think you were talking about Candace. And why'd you do while you sit here and insult people who thought that? I find it very hurtful because I am one of those rubes who read that and went, oh, Tim wants to moderate that thing.

[A]

Well, maybe there's a lesson in perhaps reading a Bit more.

[B]

Yeah. And point the point, you got to get thicker skin because right now I am on the verge of tears because that was. You tore me a new one with that.

[A]

Well, the issue is this. The idea that there is one singular debate happening and that it's the world you live in. This is part of the problem on it's Tim Pool.

[B]

Everyone is talking about this debate today. If anyone's going to moderate Tim Pool, sorry, Candace Owens and Andrew Wilson, it's going to be maybe five people. Yeah. It's not gonna be me, Knowles, Ben Shapiro, I don't know.

[A]

But this is entirely the point. People live in a world of news cycles and they don't explore the headlines beyond them. That's, that's my point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I know there's a news story right now about Andrew Wilson wanting to debate Candace Owens and I also know that people will see a sentence and fill in the blanks on what the story is. This is part of the problem of why the liberals think Donald Trump called Nazis fine people. Or why they think the proud boys are neo Nazis. They've never actually bothered to read the article.

[B]

Yes. The brown M M's.

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is one of the most brilliant stories for those who don't know.

[C]

It was.

[A]

It was Van Halen who did this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They put in their writer in the middle of the contract that there must be a bowl of brown M and Ms. All colored mms removed. And the story gets out there and people think it's cuz they're divas. The real reason they put it in the contract was because they had played a show where the stage collapsed and they said how did you not read the contract where it said the weight of the show is going to be X amount and it needs to be able to support that amount. So they decided to put dead in the middle some ridiculous nonsensical thing about M&MS. And if they walked in the room and didn't see it, it meant they did not read the contract.

[B]

And that put their lives pyrotechnics too. They go, we don't want to burst into flames.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we want to make sure, you know, and read the contract because we don't want the stage to collapse and we don't want to blow up. When are we behind a paywall now?

[A]

No, no. Seven minutes. When people talk about the Charlie Kirk stuff. When I, I read all the stories, I read every single word of all the claims and it's like looking at a bunch of. It's a Jackson Pollock painting of theories.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There was a man in the bush in front of Charlie Kirk wearing camo gear. There was a man underground who aimed up and shot Charlie in the neck. And that's why they had to repay.

[B]

I've heard that one too.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The mic exploded. The lav mic exploded. It wasn't a 30. At 6, a man in the crowd jumped up and shot. All of these theories right now. And every day when new evidence comes out, these people forget those theories were part of their tweets still exist, Their statements still exist. We had a guy on the show who argued simultaneously in the same two hour span that Charlie was shot in the back of the neck from upstairs. And then 20 minutes later said, look at this. This footage from Charlie's point of view. There's a man in camo gear crouched next to a bush. He shot Charlie. And I said, so he was shot from the front and the bullet wrapped around his back. These people are retards who don't read anything and they get really angry about it. And this is my point. I have no respect for them. They are literally retarded. And I can say something like, there were multiple people who posted online seemingly having foreknowledge of Charlie, Charlie Kirk's assassination. The official story does not line up with that. However, the idea that Egypt flew planes was fabricated. Candace Owens thought UTC meant Utah time. And they. This is true. This is true. Candace Owens claimed that Charlie Kirk has electromagnetic superpowers. I am not fucking joking. She claimed on her show several times that Charlie Kirk could time travel astral project and control electricity. And these people believe it. So whatever, man. I am not trying to run for office and I don't need to win over people who genuinely believe Charlie Kirk had electromagnetic superpowers.

[C]

Love that.

[B]

And it's not that fringe. I can go through my texts and I'll. I'm arguing with friends about all this stuff about how they were paving the cement immediately after he was shot. I'm not talking to some lunatic Five Days in the Punjab. I'm talking to people that I hang out with all the time.

[A]

They paved it five days later. Five days. They put pavers over five days later. There's a, there was a, an equipment hatch. Like a. They have the internals for the sprinklers and electronics. So there's a hatch you could pull up. People saw that and said they were underground. It's like, well, it could have been. I guess the point is this. A lot may have happened, but when you go around claiming that Charlie was a time traveler, an alien, that he could control streetlights. I'm not kidding. Candace claimed that Charlie Kirk could walk up to a street light and like the movie phenomenon. Turn it off.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

She claimed that? She said that? She said she and Charlie were part of the same experimental program from the government training them in psychic powers, and they both had the ability to astral project.

[B]

Does she still have it?

[A]

I guess so.

[C]

Use it.

[A]

Anyway, we got to read some of these chats.

[D]

Turning off lights.

[B]

Can I show one thing here that I cannot get over?

[A]

This poster of Charlie Kirk debating voucher Ocean.

[B]

Charlie Kirk, like, talk about. Yeah, Superman and some random. They may have been on the same plane back then, but this is incongruous.

[A]

Back then, Charlie was big, but more ascendant. This was from like, what, 21, 22? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that. They both signed it, and they're both 6 foot 5.

[B]

That is even more insane.

[A]

And so they're like, let's get a. Let's get a picture afterwards. And I'm like, guys, I'm 5 10. You know, the funniest thing is I did a. I did a professional. Like a. I don't say professional, but I did, like, a studio shoot and like, debate show. And when I got there, they were like, oh. They had to readjust the camera. They're like, we thought you were shorter.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Well, it's because the la. It was lefties. Because the left lies. They claim Ben Shapiro was short. Ben Shapiro is. He's. What is he, 5, 9? They say that he's 5 4. And then recently, Ben had a video where he was, like, on stage, and some guy was like, you're short. And then he was like, come up on how tall he was. Like, five tends to come on stage, and they say, so I actually thought Ben was short because the left spreads these lies. So they're like, ben's short. And then I never met him. When I first met him, I was like, oh, he's like. Like, almost as tall as I am. I'm five ten, maybe five' eleven. So I show up and they're like, oh. And they have to readjust the cameras because they believe all of the lies. And it was really funny, too, because they're like, so. So how do you describe yourself? You're a conservative, right? And I was like, I've never described myself as a conservative conservative. And they're like, oh, so what are

[B]

you change that too now?

[A]

Moderate. And I was like. I was like, if you tell. If you call Me, a conservative? You're like, conservatives are going to revolt and call it fake news. Because I'm not a conservative. And they're going to go, well, but, like, you have conservative views. And I was like, I'm pro choice. And they were like, you are. And I'm like, guys, you live a world of memes. You never actually asked any questions. You never even tried to talk to people. You read headlines and you ignore the truth. And then you act like you know everything. The left does this. Candace does this. Whatever. Let's grab. We got to grab a couple more of these chats. All right. Same old man says, tim, do you know why a woman will never be president? We will have a civil war on the matter and repeal the 19th maybe.

[D]

I wish. LARP City

[A]

Louis Rodriguez says AOC is so dumb she freezes pickled eggs. I guess.

[B]

All right, all right.

[A]

We'll grab. We'll grab one more. Grafty says grafty. 52 months. Like a legend. Holy crap, brother. Thank you so much. I know we had one in there that was a child being born somewhere earlier. Bright Results Media. 41 months membership.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Amazing guys. We usually have a lot and sometimes I miss them. Tom Step says you voted on my new son's name last week. And such joy and exuberance. Logan Writer or Asher. Just to spite you all, I have declared henceforth his name to be Logan Writer Thomas Stepien. A patriot is born.

[C]

There you go.

[D]

Welcome to the world, Logan. I already forgot the rest of the names. Patriot make it.

[A]

All right. We got to go to the part that Gavin really wants to go to, which is the uncensored portion so he can say naughty words. And he's going to say all those naughty [e-mail] timcast irl. So smash the like button. Share the show. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast. Before we go to the uncensored show, Gavin, do you want to shout anything out?

[B]

Please go to censored TV and sign up. We've got a different show every day. I do a show every day there. My Twitter. My ex is Gavin underscore McInnes and I'm back on YouTube. That's Gavin McInnes.

[A]

They unban you or something?

[B]

They unban me. Wow.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Let's go, New dawn. All right, you follow me on X and Instagram at realtate Brown. Come hang out and rumble. Tomorrow, noon live on the Tim Cast channel, we have the Tim Cast daily news show. I'll be excited to see you guys there I am.

[C]

Filler remains on Twix. You can check out my Patreon. That's patreon.com fill that remains. All that remains. Just had a bit of a milestone. We had a video called what if I Was Nothing that came out a few years back. It just hit 100 million views on YouTube. So thank you very much. If you checked it out, you can check out all that remains on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Deezer. Don't forget the left language for crime.

[A]

What?

[B]

That's not that much.

[C]

That's not that much.

[B]

It's like two Canadas.

[A]

Congratulations. I'm Carter Banks. You can follow me at Carter Banks on Twitter at Carter Banks official on Instagram, and follow our label at Trash house Records on YouTube. Glad you're back on all the socials, Gavin. I've been following your work for a long time and it's really funny stuff, so you all should go check that out. All right, we'll see you all at rumble. Com. Timcast, IRL right now for the uncensored show. Thanks for hanging out.