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Phil
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Phil
Something has happened. Everybody that says nothing ever happens. Well, today is a bad day for you. Three ringleaders of the anti ICE mob who stormed a church in Minneapolis over the weekend have been arrested AG Pam Bondi announced today on Twitter. Now there's a lot of people that are upset that Don Lemon was not arrested, but we're going to get into why that happened and the conditions surrounding that. There's also a big lie going around. Democrats are lying about ICE and getting a five year old in custody and stuff. So we're going to go over that and prove show you why this is all BS murder. The murder rate has dropped precipitously in 2025, so we're going to talk about that. And kids can't read, so we'll tell you why. But first, we've got a got a great sponsor for you.
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Tate Brown
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Phil
Tim cast IRL Joining us tonight to talk about all of the stuff that I mentioned earlier is Bobby Sauce.
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Bobby Sauce
Thank you for having me.
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Phil
Who are you?
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Tate Brown
What do you do?
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Bobby Sauce
Bobby Sauce, political comedian, video maker on all the socials at Take naps.
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Phil
I love that name. That's a great. That's a great name. Take naps. Ian's here taking naps.
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Ian Crossland
I have a long day today. Hey, everybody. Ian Crossland in the house. And I would like you to go to graphene movie. If you haven't been over there yet, check out graphene movie. Check out the trailer for this new documentary I'm building. It's awesome. I went down to Rice University. Massive nanotechnology uncovered graphene movie. Check it out. Also this man to my right.
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Tate Brown
What is going on, patriots? Tate Brown here holding it down. Yeah, I never noticed how blue your eyes are. That really just like hit me.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, I was sneezing. I was putting pressure on them before we went live. I wonder if that has to do with.
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Bobby Sauce
I hear you.
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Tate Brown
If you macrodose aspirin as well. This is not a health recommendation for anyone at home, but it will make your eyes much bluer.
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Phil
For a while.
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Ian Crossland
I was drinking platinum. They started to turn platinum.
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Tate Brown
Okay, okay. That's probably what it is, but.
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Bobby Sauce
All right.
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Phil
Well, from the New York Post, we're gonna jump right into it. Three ring litters of anti ice mob who stormed a church including school board member arrested ag Pam Bondi announces a BLM leader who served on a school board a woke tick tocker and a third alleged ringleader of an anti ice mob who stormed a Minnesota church on Sunday service has been arrested. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced Thursday we have arrested Nakima Levy Armstrong who allegedly played a key role in organizing the coordinated attack on sy city's church in St. Paul, Minnesota. AG Bondi said listen loud and clear. We do not tolerate attacks on places of worship. Excuse me, worship. Armstrong allegedly led the rauch's group, including Don Lemon from the radical Justice Network to storm the church and call out resident pastor David Eastwood, accusing him of moonlighting as the acting field office director for ICE in Minnesota. A picture Armstrong being A picture of Armstrong being led away in handcuffs was shared by the Department of Homeland Security secured secretary Christy Noem on x Thursday morning. I think that this is evidence that there is actual things happening at the doj. People love to say nothing ever happens. They're not doing this. And I understand the impulse because people wanted to see Like Trump come in and just start swinging the hammer and start arresting everybody that they didn't like. That was never realistic, in my opinion. The DOJ actually has to build cases. People would love to point at January 6th and say, well, January 6th, they had, you know, they had arrest two days later, they had arrest days later, et cetera, et cetera. Well, this happened over the weekend. Monday was a holiday. Today's Thursday. They've got arrests. You know, what do you guys think about that?
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Bobby Sauce
It does prove that they can arrest people, which is nice because for a while there, I kind of thought that they kind of couldn't. But I do wish that there was arrests of people that were more significant to the greater scheme of things like the, as we would coin, the deep state arrest. I think those would be a little bit more impactful. But I'm certainly glad to see that they can arrest people. That is a good thing.
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Ian Crossland
I was happy to see that. Happy.
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Bobby Sauce
I mean, I just think it was.
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Ian Crossland
Justice was served in that they targeted the person that was funding and organizing it. And they will, you know, we're out to see if they're going to keep arresting every person that was there and if they're going to. How harsh it's going to be. But the organizer, I think you actually have this girl up we'll talk about.
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Phil
So the reason I bring this up is because Nikima Levy Armstrong, she is an activist, right? She has been around the blm, the. The left. You know, she's a lawyer. She's been involved in this kind of, this kind of basically propaganda for, you know, at least from since 2015, she was in Ferguson. And now at this point, she's made a career of it. She's. Let's see what she's a. She's began as an associate law professor at the University of St. Thomas. She attend. She attained tenure at a university, was grant a foot, granted a full professorship. Excuse me. She was. She was the. She's worked for the NAACP for law students interest in working with underserved communities. So she's steeped in this. She's the one that organized this. And I think that it's more important and there's people that are going to be upset about this. It's more important that they arrested her than Don Lemon. Now, before you start throwing eggs, Don Lemon is a personality that people see on the news. They hear him all the time. They don't like the things they say. So they've got this emotional reaction to Don Don Lemon. This person is actually an organizer she does the work, as they would say. She's out there consistently trying to not just raise funds and, and stuff, but she's organizing these, these protests, which in my opinion, they're not legal protests at all. Right. Going into a church is clearly illegal. Obviously she's arrested for it. Getting Don Lemon would have been satisfying emotionally, but this is something that will actually affect the, the network on the ground.
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Ian Crossland
They're also framing it as a riot, like they might think they were protesting. But I guess because of the unruly nature of the experience, the doj, or at least Harmeet Dillon, I think was referring to it as a riot.
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Phil
Sorry, you were about to.
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Tate Brown
No, yeah, I mean, I agree. This is the first person you obviously want to bring in front of a, bring in front of a judge. Again, to Phil's point, because she has experience organizing, she has experience in these activist networks. There's a safe bet that a lot of these Minneapolis area activist networks probably depend on her, depend on her experience, her leadership, these sorts of things. But I mean, to the a lot of people in the audience point, like, we want to see a full blown crackdown from the doj. I can be a little patient, you know, to make sure they get these cases down, right. To make sure they have this all buttoned up when they do again, start prosecuting. But I do think Don Lemon needs to be held accountable here. I think, again, to Bobby's point, the lack of high profile arrests is a little frustrating to people because we did see under the Biden administration that again, the DOJ is capable of going after the top dogs when they want to. I have a lot of grace for the Trump administration, the doj, because again, it's hard to root out all of these deep state, deep state apparatchiks that are, you know, that make up the doj. But at a certain point, I think Don Lemon really would send a massive message to the left and that should be. I know it probably is a big focus for the doj, but they really need to get that across the finish line today.
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Ian Crossland
I was thinking that about it and like, maybe that it would be a bad message to send. It would send a message if you arrested Don Lemon, but like, if you really wanna screw it in, you go after the little guy that can't defend themselves. I know it's a horrible thing to say, cuz that's what they did with January 6th. The people that don't have the money to afford the defense funds, the people that were there kinda like just came along for the ride. You crush them. And that's not necessarily the ethical thing to do. But that's if you really wanna, because they're nobodies. The news won't make a big deal out of John Doe number seven. Like, but Don Lemon is gonna get constant headlines as long as he's in jail. Every day it'll be about Don Lemon be the pariah, you know, so to.
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Phil
That point, if they broke the law, I think they should arrest him. It doesn't matter whether the big guy or the little guy. To, to so about to the point of Don Lemon, right from the post millennial, the DOJ attempts to charge Don Lemon over storming St. Paul Church with an anti ice group. The magistrate declines to sign the complaint. So the DOJ actually put the effort in to get Don Lemon, but it seems that the magistrate wouldn't sign the paperwork. Now, I've heard conflicting reports that this magistrate was a guy that had signed a bunch of the January 6th stuff. But because there's conflicting reports, I don't want to talk about the guy's name and stuff. But from the Post Millennial, they say a federal magistrate judge in Minnesota has reportedly refused to sign a complaint from the Department of Justice charging former CNN host Don Lemon in connection with the storming of a St Paul church. Lemon was seen embedded with the anti ice agitators, kissing one of the organizers on the cheek and handing out coffee. A source familiar with the matter told CBS News that the Attorney General is enraged at the magistrate's decision after two women organizer Nakimi Nakima Levy Armstrong and St. Paul School Board member Chantilly Louise Allen have been charged with violations of the FACE act for their roles in the incident. A separate source told the outlet that the Department of Justice could still find other avenues through which to charge Don Lemon. Now, I do think that they're going to end up charging him. I think that they're going to, because I. I think that they want that. That scalp. I think that they really do want to have that high profile person. But I also think that, like, they have to get it past judges. And there are so many activist judges that are in, I mean, all across the United States.
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Bobby Sauce
It makes me wonder, on January 6th, I remember there was a lot of people that got arrested that were journalism, doing journalism in the Capitol. But I remember there was this one clip where it showed this angle that was kind of behind the guards of the guys coming up the stairs. And I don't think that that guy was ever charged for anything. And he was inside the Capitol. So I would wonder if this is a similar type of thing where they're kind of protecting their own. But if the same exact thing happened on the right, which I think you guys were talking about yesterday, would they just come after them? And if that is the case, then you have to go after Don Lemon.
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Tate Brown
I mean, the nice thing is the DOJ will still have options here. The federal magistrate not signing off doesn't eliminate. They can still bring this before they could assemble a grand jury to seek a charge. So it's not the end of the world, but I think it's in this post Millennial article, you might have read it already, is that the AG like was furious with, with the federal magistrate, as she should be, because again, I mean, the fact that they can pop all these other people on face act charges, but they can't get Don Lemon just tells you that probably there is some sway over this magistrate. The problem with the grand jury is it's going to be assembled in Minnesota. Yeah, so. So it would be a little tricky. But the doj, again, I'm not necessarily like a panicking here, but, you know, the Biden administration did figure this out quite often. So I think the right part of.
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Phil
The reason why the Biden administration figured it out is because they already had judges in place that would do this with the, the Trump administration has not been able to really fill out, you know, the, the, the judiciary the way that, yeah, judges administration and the Biden administration.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, judges are getting hung up all the time. And it's because Republicans are, are weak and they are still sticking with this antiquated blue slips system, which is just like hamstring us. And it's a completely optional system. It's not a law anywhere. Like, we just voluntarily allow Democrat senators to block our judge appointments. But I mean, to my point, like with the doj, again, they have other options. So this isn't necessarily saying like, well, the Biden administration did it, so you should do the exact same thing. It's just to say like, don't give up, don't black bill, like, get creative if you're in the doj. And again, I'm preaching to the choir. If anybody's watching, that's within the doj. But yeah, you can't let this Don Lemon thing go. I really think it's going to be red meat for the base. And right now it does seem like morale this year. We've started off hot, but, you know, before that we needed some victories. And I think this is a victory you could add to the pile in 2026. We've seen a few already, so it just has, it just has to happen.
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Phil
So Harmony Dylan was tweeting about this. The civil. But Postman, Postman Millennial went on. Civil Rights Division Assistant Attorney General Harmony Dillon wrote in response to Lemon, claiming he was at the church in a journalistic capacity. She says no one has the right to protest by trespassing into a private house, especially a house of God Almighty. Freedom of the press does not protect journalists nor anyone else when they are actively committing cr. And that's something that's worth noting. The, the idea that, that Don Lemon wants you to internalize and want you to really believe is that he was just there covering. But like they said earlier in the postmodern piece, he walked up to Nakima and gave her a kiss on the cheek. He was handing out coffee to the people that were there. That goes beyond just being a journalist. I mean, if you're, if you're in a combat zone and you're wearing a press badge, but you're handing out magazines full of ammunition to the guys, or you're, you're, you're walking around with the, with the, the, the group that's going to attack someone and you're handing out food or coffee, there's going to be a whole lot of questions about are you really a journalist? And I think that that's the same kind of situation here. Don Lemon could have gone there and actually acted like a journalist, but you could, you could listen to the questions that he was asking the pastor there or the preacher there, and he was, he's obviously politically aligned with the protesters. He went there with them, he knew about the situation beforehand. They informed him they wanted him to cover it because he's aligned with them politically. Again, he was handing out coffee, you know, helping to, to organize this or at least making them more comfortable. So I don't think that you can actually, you know, realistically or convincingly make the argument that he wasn't involved. You can say he wasn't one of the, the organizers, but he was definitely one of the protesters, particularly when he was there asking questions that were, you know, looking to make people uncomfortable, which he said in a follow up interview after the show.
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Bobby Sauce
It seemed like the foreknowledge was kind of part of the problem. The sad part about all of this is that even if they do arrest Don Lemon, this activist woman, I think kind of got exactly what she wanted. I don't think that these people are going to go to prison for multiple years. I would bet if they even do get prosecuted, people they serve little to no time at all or get a slap on the wrist. And now every person that never knew who that activist girl was now knows who she is, and she's gonna use this as a badge of honor going forward. I watched the, you know, like the perp walk type photos on New York Post, and it's. This is the most press these people have ever got. And Don Lemon, for lack of a better word, he's gonna get a ton of press from this as well. And I think that in the end, they're not gonna serve something proportionate enough to how much this is gonna galvanize their position and their whole group of, of agitators. Now, does that mean that you don't prosecute them? No, but I think it's going to end up helping them in the end, and they're not going to really serve that much. I bet they, I bet none of them serve time at all.
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Phil
So I'm not sure what kind of, what kind of time they're. They're facing with the charges. I'm not even sure what they're being charged with. But the idea that, and, and I know that you said, you know, we should prosecute him, and I agree. I, I don't think that we should, we should be looking for reasons to be negative about it just because this is actually the first kind of victory that the, the DOJ is, is kind of giving to us. And again, I don't know what the charges are going to be, and I don't know how long the maximum sentence is, but it's my opinion that they should be like, you should throw the book at them.
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Bobby Sauce
Right?
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Phil
Like, whatever the maximum is, that's what they should get. And, and I don't see a whole lot of, you know, I don't, I don't find the arguments against that convincing. And what you're alluding to is something that we hear fairly frequently when people say, well, you don't want to. And not that. Again, not that you're saying this because this is a bit of a different argument, but it's, it rings similar to the argument, well, you don't want to do the things that the Democrats would do, or you don't want to do this because you'll, you'll anger the left or you'll, you'll, you'll embolden them or you'll upset them. And that is just, to me, that's not convincing. You have to exercise power when you have it and you have to do everything you can to make sure the charges stick and make sure that they go to jail for as long as possible. And the reason is they're going to do that to conservatives when they get into power again. The days of, you know, polite politics, they're long gone. Those days are over.
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Ian Crossland
But I don't think that that's necessarily the reason that you would issue the DOJ to go after them.
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Phil
It's just the reason is they broke the law.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah. You do the right thing, you uphold the law. And if they were trespassing, I still really haven't watched the video. Was there was a video of multiple videos of like legitimate riots inside of a church then, you know, and so.
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Tate Brown
Bobby's point, I mean, like with the Face act is it would be like two to three year sentences. That's. That's like the criminal level depending on, like, if you have any priors or that sort of thing. But it's not going to be like this just insane, locking them up for tension when you're like, people want to see. And that's the thing that is kind of unfortunate is, I mean, the Face act is great. It's going to make it easy to charge these people. But, like, I mean, two to three years seems fine to me. I don't even think it's been that long.
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Bobby Sauce
I hope that that happens.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. I mean, with Don Lemon, same thing.
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Phil
They go to jail for three years and they're out just in time for the Democrats to win again.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, literally. So, I mean, that is a good point though. I mean, they could be seeking, like, press through martyrship. It's just they're making the calculation that they're not going to get two to three years because that would be very debilitating for their.
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Bobby Sauce
That's what I mean, if it was like three months and it blew them up. It's like maybe they bake that into the cake where they're like, this is gonna, this is gonna make us look like a, like a freedom fighter. And, and when. And what they did was completely purposeless. I remember during the George Floyd, like, time of year in Florida, I saw these people yelling at people that were just sitting at a restaurant. They're like, you're white and you're gonna sit here while George Floyd, they're like, what are you even talking about? So it was a completely purposeless protest. It did achieved literally nothing.
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Phil
I disagree with that. I think that the, the point of that is to intimidate people on the right. I really do think that it was about not just the people that were at that church, but other people that are basically on the right, other people that go to church basically saying, look, you're not safe. Right? They're saying, you're not safe in your house of worship. You're not safe walking around the street. And this is something that the politicians have said. Maxine Waters said it herself. You know, tell these, get in their face and make sure that they know that they're not welcome. The Democrats really do want to intimidate people out of their political opinions. Now, I know that that doesn't work, right? You, you, you confront people and you push them and people tend to double down on what they, what they already believe. But the, the impulse from the Democrats, I really do think is about intimidation. They want to scare people. They want to make people feel like they shouldn't. They're wrong for having these opinions. So at the very least they'll keep their heads down. So that way the Democrats can go and do, or the activists, the left can, can basically do what they want to do unimpeded.
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Bobby Sauce
Yeah, I think that that makes sense. But what I'm saying is, is that, that there could have been a lot of people that were at that church service that agreed that ICE is bad. Just because they're at church doesn't mean that they disagree, that they think, you know, Renee Goode should have been hurt by that. So I'm just saying there, there was no specific stance that they were taking just by the act of being in that church at that time. They could have been leftists in there that just happened to be at church and these people march in and they're yelling at them. If it was some, some type of right wing organization or a specific thing where it's like these people have all declared that they believe this thing, then that would make more sense. Not that I'm saying that they don't want to do what you're saying.
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Tate Brown
I think that's why they targeted the Southern Baptist Church specifically, because like the sbc, the Southern Baptist Convention, it's an overwhelmingly conservative denomination. It's like 80% Republican, I'm pretty sure. And I think that's actually why it matters, the specific church that they went after. Because again, to your point, if it was like a Methodist church or Episcopalian, probably the majority of congregates would be agreeing with their protests. But the fact that they've specifically gone after evangelicals is a very strategically smart play. If you're like a leftist trying to intimidate, because again, like Evangelicals yesterday, largest religious group in the United States. They're overwhelmingly conservative. They have a very conservative temperament to begin with. And then you have people like Jennifer, I think was Jennifer Welch came out after, when she was interviewing Don Lemon and she was like, yeah, the church was filled with white supremacists. Because she's saying, again, like, from her perspective, that is how they view evangelicals. They view evangelicals as a stand in for middle Americans. They view evangelicals as these kitschy conservatives that just aren't up with the times, these sorts of things. And so I think that's specifically why they went up for that church. I mean, I know they were alleging that the pastor was like some like, you know, like moonlighting as an ice field age, field agent, officer, whatever you want to call it. But I think it was like a very strategic decision they made to go after a Southern Baptist church.
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Phil
To your point, we've got this video here from the. One of the protesters that was arrested today. I forget this guy's name, but he's making the argument that the people inside the church are white supremacists. And now we've, we've said things like, you know, they don't call you a white supremacist because they want to kill you. They call you a white supremacist to justify, you know, aggressing it. You're attacking you.
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Tate Brown
Yesterday I went into a church with Nakima Armstrong and I protested these white supremacists. A pastor of the church is a ICE leader in the city.
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Bobby Sauce
How can you be a pastor and be a fucking.
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Phil
Pardon his, his French. But the point, the point I think is, is, is well taken. Now he didn't know any of the people in that church, but he just is going to accuse them of being white supremacist to justify his actions. Right? The pastor. Even if the pastor was an ICE agent, he worked with ICE or whatever, that doesn't make him a white supremacist.
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Bobby Sauce
Right?
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Phil
But the left does this. They say, well, you're a white supremacist, you're a Nazi, you're this. So I'm justified. It's all about more moralizing their attack on you because they don't want to think of, or they don't think of themselves as the bad guy at all. They wanted to sit there and say, look, we're obviously the good guys. You're obviously the bad guys, guys. So what we're doing isn't, isn't trespassing and breaking the law and invading your church service, which is A totally peaceful and very normal American thing to do. What we're doing is we're breaking up a white supremacist rally. We're in here, you know, we're like Captain America punching the Nazis. And that's exactly what this guy think, how he thinks of himself, you know. And so I think it's worth pointing that out. This guy is all, I mean, in my opinion, he's all bad. But they're going to sit there and they're, they're going to always just justify their behavior and say, look, those people are obviously bad people. And it goes beyond just the people in the church. That's what they think of anyone that doesn't agree with them. Because you'll see people all the time saying, well, you know, that guy's a Nazi. Well, that guy's a Nazi. Well, that guy's a Nazi. And the person doesn't have, you know, they just have politics that are different. You know, 20 years ago they had very normal middle of the road politics. They called, you know, you talk about Donald Trump, Donald Trump's a Nazi. Well, 20 years ago, Donald Trump was a Democrat, you know.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
In 2015, I was hanging out in LA with my buddy and we're watching the news, the election, Hillary Clinton, her email scandal breaks.
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Phil
I'm like, okay.
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Ian Crossland
He's all, it's her turn, Ian. I'm like, okay, but this email scandal is pretty big deal, dude. I'm not a huge Trump fan, but like, I can't support this woman if she really has this scandal. And he turns to me and he says, you're a racist. How, where does that come from? How did that get seeded into my friend's head after I knew him for a decade? I'm literally asking, where did it come from?
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Bobby Sauce
Mood inhibitors.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, but why racist?
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Ian Crossland
I don't understand.
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Tate Brown
Well, I think it's actually a miscalculation to say that people on the left call you racist or a white supremacist purely for like, framing purposes. I don't think they actually think that far ahead. I think they legitimately, in their worldview, they believe that anybody that would be opposed to any sort of immigration enforcement whatsoever, they genuinely believe you are racist. They genuinely believe white supremacists. They're not labeling you that just as a justification for their beliefs. They legitimately think that he legitimately thought you were racist. He legitimately thinks these people in this church are white supremacists because of their, even in your case, like vague, vague support of borders, these sorts of things. Because in the leftist framework, like, all of this is reductive. All of this is just impediments to individuality, impediments to sort of liberating people from these like pre assigned identities. And so it's actually like, if you, if you look at it from a leftist framework, would make absolute sense that someone that is just against Hillary Clinton broadly would be a racist. Because in their, again, in their framework it makes total sense.
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Ian Crossland
Maybe it's that he heard on Rachel Maddow that Trump was a racist and anybody not Hillary Clinton was, was a Trump supporter, therefore also as racist as Trump. Maybe that was the lie.
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Tate Brown
Well, yeah, his calculation was just, Trump is supportive of border enforcement. Hillary Clinton is wishy washy on it. So by not voting for Hillary Clinton, not like, you know, crying tears of joy at the thought of Hillary Clinton being president, you are then abetting Donald Trump to win in the election. So, you know, it goes through a few different levels. But yeah, by not again throwing your full weight behind Hillary Clinton, that in their. And their framework makes you a Trump supporter. And their framework, because you're not helping Hillary beat Trump, that sort of thing.
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Bobby Sauce
It's funny that they thought that when you were talking about a very specific legal issue, it's like, what about this email scandal? And it's like, oh, you're a racist. We can't even focus on this one singular issue. That should be a problem that even you should be concerned of whether I was a racist or not. Like, can we just agree that this is a bad thing and should be looked at?
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Phil
Yeah, you should have been like, yeah, but so that's not the point, right?
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Bobby Sauce
I did, I did.
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Ian Crossland
I'm like, what are you talking about, dude? He's like, it's her turn, Ian.
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Phil
It's her turn.
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Ian Crossland
And I'm like, what, bro?
- [27:13]
Phil
I'm just talking about this.
- [27:14]
Ian Crossland
Like, he might have been able to convince me to vote for if he'd had the conversation instead of shutting it down with pejoratives.
- [27:19]
Phil
It was crazy, crazy town.
- [27:21]
Ian Crossland
And I bailed on L. A after that. That was it for me. I was like, I'm done. Done.
- [27:25]
Phil
That was when you left Los Angeles?
- [27:26]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, that was like the break. He was like my best friend in la. It was just the breaking point where I'm like, something happened to people between 2010 and 2015 that was like unforeseen.
- [27:36]
Tate Brown
I noticed this with, with, with older generations is you. You guys always talk about how you have friends that are, are on the left, friends that are liberals, these sorts of Things I found in Zoomers. Like, I feel. No, I'm like, I'm 24. I find that, like, I don't really have any friends that are on the left because I think there is like a filtering that occurred probably with younger millennials and then down where things got so calcified. The. What's the word I'm looking for, the stratification of political beliefs occurred at such a level that legitimately I don't really have much to talk about with someone that's on the left. Like, we are in two completely different worlds at that. Yeah. Entrenched, like, so the actual foundation for a friendship to even be built on is just not there. When previously, like when you guys were growing up, the disagreements would be on maybe more like policy grounded things like tax policy, maybe your view on foreign policy, these sorts of things. Where now it's like, literally if you're on the right or left, that is a reduction of your worldview fundamentally. And if you just have a completely different worldview from someone, you're literally one person seeing, you know, a six, the other person seeing a nine. And it's really hard to find the ground to like, actually build a friendship on unless you, like, grew up together. And even that case, like a lot of people that I grew up with that have, you know, developed like left wing beliefs. We don't really even keep in touch anymore because again, it's like you can only talk about sports for so long.
- [28:47]
Bobby Sauce
You know, I think, I think it just wasn't in your face, really. Like, when I was building a lot of my friend group, it wasn't in my face. It wasn't like they could lock you in your house and force you to get vaccinated or you lose your job. It wasn't that. It didn't seem that serious.
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Bobby Sauce
The president sucks. We don't like him. The money is fake. It's not backed by anything. And that was the end of it. We didn't talk about it in Such a way where it's felt more daunting on our everyday life and as visible. Trump is on TV every single day, no matter whether you want to know about him or not. And I think that that brings it into the conversation where you see the fragment between you and that person more, and it makes those decisions to stay apart.
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Phil
Oh, Covid.
- [29:55]
Ian Crossland
Because it was. They became afraid of people that weren't vaccinated. They'd be like, they're going to harm me just by being. And other people were like, they're crazy just by. They're going to try and force me to take a medicine I don't want. Just like I, I. And that's like, when you, when you're afraid of someone just for being there.
- [30:11]
Phil
Because they, well, they say, you can't come over.
- [30:13]
Bobby Sauce
They say you can't come over. You can't come to the party. You know how many people said, oh, you can't come to my wedding if you're not vaccinated, or you can't come and visit my newborn baby if you're not vaccinated. That was a real thing. And it's just like, what, what is even that I have to stay outside. How do you hang out with a person if that's the case? And then it. And then it's further starts to bleed into where maybe they sit there thinking, well, if he won't do this to come to my wedding, then is he really my friend? And you're like, do you think it.
- [30:38]
Phil
Started with COVID No, I'm not. I think that it became. I think that, like, Covid was, Was, you know, like nitrous oxide to it. Yes, but I don't think I feel like it started before then.
- [30:48]
Bobby Sauce
I think it started before then, but I just mean that the level of severity for how much it could be fragment your, your A potential friendship with a person was never more in your face really, until then, where it's just like, if you didn't do this one specific thing, it's dangerous to hang out with you. And if you don't believe this thing, you want to kill grandma and kill your neighbor. It's like it never really seemed that serious. If we disagree on foreign policy or monetary policy or, or whatever, even the border, it's like, that's not my. That's not. You don't come to my wedding. Whereas, like, this is. It's like, you want me to die or vice versa. And I almost, either side could think the same thing.
- [31:25]
Phil
Yeah. All right, we're gonna jump to this story here. And this is more of the, the significant disparity between what the left believes and what the right believes, but this is a little more, a little more blatant in your face. So the Washington Post is reporting that ICE detains four children from Minnesota district including a five year old, I said Washington Post says Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Minnesota have detained at least four children from the same school district this month, including a five year old boy, officials school officials in Minneapolis suburbs said Wednesday. The events have inflamed tensions between residents and ICE officers, sparked by the fatal shooting of 37 year old Renee Good by an ICE officer this month. The Trump administration has sought to justify the presence of ICE personnel by saying the officers are detaining immigrants convicted on violent crimes. The administration doesn't have to justify ice's presence. The fact that there are illegal immigrants in Minnesota and Minnesota does not detain and turn these illegal immigrants over to the federal government for deportation is the only justification that ICE needs. And I bothers me that the Post would even portray it like this right, but it gets worse. Why detain a 5 year old girl? Zenith Svenick said. The superintendent of the Colombian Heights Public School District, located just north of Minneapolis, said at a news conference, you cannot tell me that this child is going to be classified as a violent criminal. Five year old Liam Kone Ramos and his father, who the Department of Homeland Security identified as Adrian Alexander Clones Erez in an email statement, were detained in their driveway Tuesday afternoon just as they were returning from the child's school, according to a news release from Columbia Heights Public School. Now this man is an illegal immigrant and when ICE approached, he ran, leaving the 5 year old child standing there. One of the ICE agents stayed with the child. The other ICE agent took off after the illegal immigrant. When you get arrested, if you have kids, your kids are separated from you because they don't put your kid in the jail cell with you. This is something that is as mundane an activity, a law enforcement activity as it can possibly be. Every day people are arrested. Every day people are separated from their children because we don't throw kids in jail with adults. But the way that the left has been portraying it is that this child was detained. ICE is so mean and so bad and they're just detaining children and they just want to throw kids in jail. And doesn't that just tug at your heartstrings? Well, it's all bs. It's all a lie. So I don't, I don't know that there's Any, you know, any remedy for this? Because again, the Washington Post reports it actually here from Homeland Security. ICE did not target a child. The child was abandoned. On January 20, ICE conducted a targeted operation to arrest Adrian Alexander Colonel Erez, an illegal alien from Ecuador who was released into the US by the Biden administration agent. Agents approached the driver, Adrian Allen Alexander Conus. Erez fled on foot, abandoning his child. For the child's safety, one of our ICE officers remained with the child while the other officers apprehended Cones Eris. Parents were asked if they wanted to be removed with their children or ICE will place the children with a safe person the parent designates. This is consistent with the past administration's immigration enforcement. Parents can take control of their departure and receive a free flight and 2600 with a CBP Home app. By using the CBP Home app, illegal aliens reserve the chance to come back the right legal way. Look, man, if the government is offering you three grand to get out of the United States and you're here illegally and then you could come back, that is the way to do it, right? Like, you don't want to get picked up by ICE and then lose the possibility of coming back. Take the money and run and file your paperwork and come here legally.
- [35:36]
Ian Crossland
I agree with that. It's. Don't put your family at risk. It's a risk and people are like, good lord, you know where it's back where I came from. It's a risk I'm willing to. But like, bro, don't be a fugitive for the next 30 years. Like, if you're here illegally, it's not a horrible idea to consider self deport.
- [35:52]
Tate Brown
Yeah, it reminds me of the, reminds me of the kids in cages controversy. I don't know if we're turning back the clock here. Like, Ankh may have to lay this out for. I'm just kidding. Everyone remembers the kids in cages, where the left is literally making the argument that we should be throwing children in general population prisoners. Like that was the legitimate argument they're making is they're like, no, you should detain the children with the parents and then put the kids in detainment centers with other adults. Are we new around it? Not to mention all of the trafficking going on. It's the same thing where it's just like they've latched onto this battle cry that actually doesn't really make any sense under just the lightest bit of scrutiny. And it's just bizarre. But the thing is, they already got their talking point. There's nothing we can say to someone in the audience, there's probably no one watching that would be supporting of this sort of talking point. But no matter what you say to someone on the left, explaining this out, explaining what the procedure is, what happened, it doesn't matter. They're entrenched. This is the talking point.
- [36:47]
Bobby Sauce
They're abusing language, they're saying detained as if it's like, okay, so what other word would you prefer to use? Like if you were arrested and you had a 13 year old kid in the house, they have to do something or a 10 year old kid or whatever, it doesn't matter that he's five. And then by them framing, it's like, like it's all. They would only detain him if they thought he was a violent combatant or something. It's like, so what else do you do? You leave the 5 year old at the house.
- [37:10]
Phil
I mean, look, if you were honest, they could have said that the, or if they wanted, if, if the press was honest, they could say that the child was in the care of.
- [37:18]
Bobby Sauce
Yeah, exactly.
- [37:19]
Phil
You know, because that's what it was. They were taking care of the five year old because it's freezing out. You don't leave a kid standing there like, well the, that's five years old with no idea what's going on. Being like, like why did my dad run away from me? Why is my dad being chased by the cops? Like you're the, the ICE officers are, are trying to take care of the child's best interest by not letting the kids stand there in the freezing cold. Yeah, but the media want, not just. And this is the big problem, right? Rep. Jimmy Gomez says ICE just used a five year old boy as bait, forcing him to knock on his own door so they could arrest his father. Trump, ICE and CBP don't see these families as people. And that's exactly how they're treating them. That is just, just absolutely bs. Yeah, but an actual congressperson is saying this. Another one. Mayor Jacob Fry, 5 years old. This is a child, not a threat to our community. When the federal government treats kids like criminals, something has gone seriously wrong. Totally made up, making everything worse now. I mean, Jacob Fry is absolute garbage, right? Like if this guy actually cared about the people in his community, he would be helping to apprehend the criminal aliens and turning them over. But he doesn't want to do that. And then there was one thing that I saw. Chuck Todd had made a comment. He said, the lack of empathy, is it a feature or a bug? And it's Like Chuck and I, I chimed in here and I ratioed the crap out of him. You're either an active propagandist or a gullible fool. And that's exactly what he's an active propagandist. Obviously he, it's simple to find the information of actually what happened. You know, I'm sure that he follows ICE or the Department of Homeland Security on X. He could just read their statement, but he doesn't. Yeah, and he leaves the tweet up.
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Tate Brown
Chuck Todd. You know, it's kind of useful that he kind of looks like Jim Cramer because he really is the Jim Cramer of politics where it's like generally the position he has on any sort of incident, the opposite position is probably the correct take to have. So yeah, this is just the lack of empathy. You should be thankful that ICE is even like demonstrating empathy in the first place because that's again, their job is to just conduct an operation. So the fact that they actually are taking care of these kids, that they actually are demonstrating a degree of empathy is great because it's like, look around the world, look around the world how their federal police handle affairs. And you'll find pretty quickly the United States is actually an outlier, certainly not the norm.
- [39:47]
Bobby Sauce
Imagine how stupid you would have to believe that. Or you have to be to believe that ICE just swarmed this five year old kid.
- [39:55]
Tate Brown
Yeah, it's like, oh no.
- [39:56]
Bobby Sauce
They treated this kid like, if you, if there was an actual video of what actually happened with the kid, I bet it's very nice and very friendly. But they're painting it as if they like, you know, rappelled down from a helicopter and tackled them into the door.
- [40:07]
Phil
It's like the Emilio Gonzalez picture from the 90s where the, you know, the guy's pointing an MP5 at the kid, you know, to grab him. And that happened in the United States, but that was, was 30 years ago now. And like this is not the way that law enforcement behaves at all anymore because everyone has a phone in their, in their pocket with a video camera and, and law enforcement can't afford to behave like that. They have to do everything they can to, to abide by the law. And they do. They're actually, they try to use as little force as possible. That's why, that's why having body cameras has been the best thing that's happened to law enforcement in forever. Because there's so many people that are so quick to say, oh well, law enforcement does this, law enforcement does that. And they're so bad and blah, blah, blah. See the body camera and it exonerates the police officers every time.
- [41:03]
Bobby Sauce
Well, they're like, they're making hay when the sun shines.
- [41:05]
Phil
They're.
- [41:05]
Bobby Sauce
They're looking for absolutely anything to make you look like an inhuman monster. It's just sad that people will actually see this and believe it. That's the part that blows my mind the most. Not so much that they're doing it because they're trying to make something out of nothing, but that people actually do believe this, that this is actually happening as they're framing it.
- [41:23]
Phil
Don't you think that that's motivated, though? That they believe it because they want to believe it and then they engage in it, they engage in spreading the story because they want other people to believe it. And they want. They want other people to feel the same kind of anger at ice, regardless of whether it's justified.
- [41:37]
Bobby Sauce
I just think that. I don't know if it's chicken or the egg, but I just mean that. I mean that the fact that people will see something like that from Chuck Todd and be like, wow. Or from Mayor Fry, wow. They're treating him like an, like a, like a violent combatant. Like, the fact that people believe that is crazy. The fact that they're posting about it is unsurprising to me is what I'm trying to say, like that there is a person on the other end, on X, that's logging on and seeing that and being like, can you believe how these ICE agents are treating these five year olds without even looking into it? These guys playing on their emotions. That to me seems par for the course. But the fact that people actually believe it is what I'm so surprised about.
- [42:14]
Tate Brown
The body cams really were like a total gift for the right.
- [42:16]
Phil
They were.
- [42:17]
Tate Brown
When's the last time you saw any hubbub over an unarmed black man being shot? It just hasn't happened since the advent of the body cameras. And yeah, the left were the ones that pushed for it. I think if the right knew how that played out, they would have been like, yeah, sign us up. I do remember, like, the right was a lot at the first. I was like, I don't know, maybe hilarious. And we've gotten some like, really hilarious photos out of it. Like that one lady, I think she like threw boiling water on the cop and then she charged at him with a knife. And it could create like the funniest photo I've ever seen in my life. So it's like total liptard. Own self. Own with that move. I wouldn't be surprised if they're advocating against body cameras because it's an invasion of your, of your rights or something like that in the near future because it's been such a disaster for them.
- [42:55]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, I'm looking forward to robot cops, but I didn't want to hijack the conversation.
- [43:00]
Tate Brown
The body camera will stream. Stream straight to lively.
- [43:03]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it'll be 360 body cam. So you can like go into the 360 video and watch it from any direction. And you can't blame the robot. You can only blame the system.
- [43:10]
Tate Brown
The Robocop dude. It's gonna be like the kill cam and cod.
- [43:13]
Ian Crossland
But my question is, who's gonna install robot cops first? Democrats or Republicans?
- [43:16]
Phil
Do you remember, do you remember the guy in Dallas that got blown up by a robot cop? So there was a dude that was shooting at the cops and he was behind Jersey barriers. He got, he's got cover and the cops are just like, well, send the robot in. They sent the robot in and just blew it up and killed the guy. So that's already happened. Robot cops exist now. Down.
- [43:33]
Ian Crossland
I didn't detonate.
- [43:34]
Phil
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly, I'm not sure exactly how it went down, but they just went over. He, they went over and it, they took the robot, took the guy out. But the idea of robot cops, I don't think that, I don't think that the American people are ever going to be comfortable with totally autonomous law enforcement. But I do think that you'll see in the, in the coming probably five years, you'll see a lot more robot partners. Right. So you said that today.
- [44:01]
Ian Crossland
Did you see his post about it?
- [44:02]
Phil
I want, I'm, that, I'm not saying that there won't be robot cops. You, they'll, there'll be robots that will go and do the dangerous stuff, but there will probably be an actual human being with them. That's why I'm saying, like robot partners. So in the car you've got one, one human being cop, and he'll be backed up by a robot and then like a robot. I do think that's true.
- [44:19]
Tate Brown
Yeah. What was that?
- [44:20]
Ian Crossland
A couple robot dogs in the back if they need them out of the trunk or something.
- [44:23]
Phil
I mean, maybe. Look, man, robots are going to be so cheap and everywhere nowadays you can get, there's a, there's actual humanoid robots that I posted a link and some stuff about it a couple months back, probably halfway through the year, last year, and you can actually get a robot for your house, right? Now, humanoid robot, yeah, they're around 20, $30,000. And I've said this a bunch of times. When you offer the upper middle class a thirty thousand dollar robot that you pay five hundred bucks a month for, for 72 months and you've got, you know, 6% financing or whatever, and it does your dishes, it picks up after you, it mows your lawn. That is going to be the hottest product. Elon Musk is totally right. That will be the hottest product in the country because you're, you're going to have basically this robot that gets consistent updates, downloads anything that you want it to do. You can go ahead and type it, you'll be able to type into an AI and say, hey, I want my robot to do this. And it'll download it just like in the Matrix, right into the robot and then the robot can do it. You're going to see all of the, the low skilled jobs, they're going to be gone because robots will do it. Because right now you got to pay someone. You know, say you're paying an illegal, right? You're, you're a business owner and you're paying illegals to pick strawberries, right? And you pay them under the table and you end up paying them 25 grand a year, right? Total for the whole year. That's a huge amount of money for an illegal. They don't have to pay taxes on it. But if you can buy a robot for $25,000 and it lasts you five years, the math is simple. Obviously you're gonna buy the robot.
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Ian Crossland
Well, have it deported.
- [46:01]
Tate Brown
Have you seen the. Yeah, it's so true.
- [46:04]
Ian Crossland
You can't get deported or it won't be deported.
- [46:05]
Tate Brown
Yeah, it's really.
- [46:06]
Phil
And you don't have to worry about if it doesn't. You have to worry about it getting sick.
- [46:09]
Tate Brown
They're really good at paperwork. ChatGPT. They just load it all in. Seriously, have you seen like these people that are buying the humanoid robots, have you seen where like their houses, it looks like a Mexican grandmother's house where they're having to put blankets over their mirrors. Because the humanoid robots can't tell that the mirror is a mirror. So they're slamming into it at full speed, shattering mirrors and it's flying. There's a video, I can't remember which streamer it was, but he had a humanoid robot and he just slammed it.
- [46:31]
Phil
Was his cock not.
- [46:32]
Tate Brown
No, it was someone else. But yeah, he just slammed it full speed. The robot like didn't know what was going on. He felt bad, like you could tell the robot like knew what he did.
- [46:39]
Phil
The robot felt bad. Yeah, the robot didn't feel anything. Don't humanize him that much.
- [46:44]
Tate Brown
So it's like, I don't know if the, the robots can't figure, like they gotta figure out the mirrors first. Cause like I have a lot of mirrors. I don't want them breaking.
- [46:49]
Ian Crossland
They look like tunnels too, if you look into them long enough.
- [46:52]
Tate Brown
It's like a Looney Tunes kind of thing where you paint the tunnel.
- [46:54]
Ian Crossland
Especially if you have a mirror behind you and in front of you it's an infinite chamber of mirror.
- [46:58]
Phil
Here we go.
- [46:59]
Ian Crossland
Here we go.
- [47:02]
Phil
Is that real? Yeah, that is real, isn't it?
- [47:04]
Bobby Sauce
What are you doing?
- [47:05]
Tate Brown
That's my mirror.
- [47:06]
Ian Crossland
What are you doing?
- [47:06]
Tate Brown
Stop.
- [47:09]
Phil
I don't know if that's real. One of your units just ran into.
- [47:11]
Bobby Sauce
My mirror and is causing damage.
- [47:13]
Tate Brown
I'm a little, I'm a little worried.
- [47:15]
Phil
That'S not gonna work. Oh my God.
- [47:18]
Tate Brown
No, but this has been half seen other, other tik toks and stuff of this. It's like an epidemic. Well, I mean, slamming into mirrors, I believe you, but they slam into windows like a dog. I mean, dogs have this problem already where dogs like can't slam it.
- [47:31]
Phil
I, you know, to be honest with you, I, I, I understand that, but I think that they'll, they'll probably fix that problem. But how? I don't know, Ian.
- [47:38]
Tate Brown
How would they fix it?
- [47:39]
Phil
Sonar maybe? Like other things than light.
- [47:41]
Ian Crossland
Using other things than light to measure your surroundings.
- [47:44]
Phil
No, I bet, no.
- [47:45]
Ian Crossland
What?
- [47:45]
Phil
I bet you they'll be, they'll do, they'll make the robot. They'll, they'll basically give the robot an understanding of what it is. So when it sees itself in a mirror. Oh, like that's a mirror. And I'll say if you see this, you know, because robot, because that's what the Tesla is doing. They're saying, look, we want them to look at the world the way the humans do. So the, the Tesla robots are, are identifying things just using vision, right? They, they, that's what the car does. My car.
- [48:10]
Tate Brown
Let's just, let's cut through the like ice rusted a five year old. Whatever. I'm sure the kids, it was probably doing something. I don't know. Bobby, do you think we're getting sex robots?
- [48:17]
Phil
Oh, come on. Yes, of course. But not. They're starting in Japan.
- [48:22]
Bobby Sauce
First of all, my issue, My issue was primarily cop robots that make decisions. That was my issue. That's what I've been thinking about. This Whole time.
- [48:30]
Phil
No, no. This is the interesting thing, apparently.
- [48:32]
Bobby Sauce
I would say absolutely that has to happen. I would say that will absolutely happen. If it hasn't already.
- [48:37]
Phil
You, you know, you. You heard my take on this, right?
- [48:39]
Bobby Sauce
Haven't you seen Ex Machina? That movie?
- [48:41]
Tate Brown
Oh, dude. Yeah, it's a goonbind.
- [48:43]
Bobby Sauce
That seems to me like likely the most likely scenario. Although the, the turning into a humanoid or whatever at the end. I don't know.
- [48:49]
Tate Brown
Well, because there was an article in the New York post from like 10 years ago where they're like, by 2025, the majority of women will be having sex with robots.
- [48:54]
Phil
Yeah. Yes.
- [48:55]
Bobby Sauce
And.
- [48:56]
Phil
And Roomba.
- [48:57]
Tate Brown
Situations that got a little weird. But apart from that, I don't think it's happened.
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Bobby Sauce
I mean they kind of are a little bit.
- [49:01]
Phil
All right, look. Yeah, a little bit vibrators or robots. Whether you want to actually like consider that the truth or not. They. They really are. But when it comes to like goonbots, like they will be. They will actually become a thing once the robots can wash themselves.
- [49:17]
Tate Brown
Right? Yeah, that's because.
- [49:18]
Phil
Because nobody's gonna want to, you know, like actually like having to take it apart to clean it and self cleaning goombot in the shower.
- [49:27]
Ian Crossland
They got to be waterproof, obviously.
- [49:30]
Phil
Yeah, obviously.
- [49:32]
Tate Brown
Well, because that's what's interesting is like, you know, a lot of these fellas, a lot of these, the guys are really receiving a lot of vitriol for like rising up chat GPT. Because when I see them, you know, you know, show what their chat logs look like, a lot of times it's just like epic game. I'm like, you know, I kind of respect you. Really did Riz up chat gbt something that's interesting to me. This is a bit dark, but I've seen this happen a few times is when a guy like fumbles a girl for people in the crowd don't know what fumbling means. It means he failed to, you know, close a deal making her his wife, that sort of thing. They load their text messages from the girl. They fumbled into chat GPT to recreate her personality. And this has happened a few times.
- [50:11]
Bobby Sauce
Are they like, I thought you were gonna go a different way with that.
- [50:14]
Ian Crossland
So the work game on the. The old girl's personality. Then can they be like increased difficulty and then it's like, oh, now it's even harder to my game. It's like up a notch now it's two in the afternoon, she's not drunk anymore. Now I gotta try a little harder.
- [50:27]
Tate Brown
Right. I think There's Serge might be able to find. There was a TikTok of a guy. He did this. He, he, he fumbled completely. It was very embarrassing. He was demoralized. Loaded the text messages into Chat GP to recreate the personality and then he did something similar where he won her back through Chat GPT chat to win her back. I don't know if it worked or not.
- [50:43]
Bobby Sauce
I, I, I would hope not for that lady. For that gal. I hope that she did not get won back by the guy that uploaded.
- [50:50]
Tate Brown
Her personality into Just utilizing resources.
- [50:52]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Cuz if you did, would you make Chat GPT the Godfather.
- [50:58]
Tate Brown
Right?
- [50:58]
Ian Crossland
If it got you back together with the girl eventually she's going to be comfortable enough with you telling her.
- [51:02]
Tate Brown
Who would be the godmother?
- [51:04]
Bobby Sauce
Wait, did he, wait, did he, did he upload the text messages? I thought you were, I thought you were saying he uploaded the text messages for the purpose of recreating her absence. You're saying he did that to learn better so that he could go back to get her back? Is that what you're saying?
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Tate Brown
Most of them are doing it for the absence because they're, you know, that's just whatever. It's hard, I guess, but that's like specific. Gentleman was doing it to like, I'm going back in, but I need to be like a, like a pro that.
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Bobby Sauce
I, that actually I would say is okay. But the person that's doing it to replace her absence, I'd equate that to like those TLC shows where the girl eats paper towels or eats like couch cushions or whatever. It's like you, you don't exist. It's like the guy that marries the doll, like, I'm just gonna pretend you don't exist.
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Phil
Anything that facilitates humans interacting with humans and helps people that are having problems, you know, communicating with people, I think that it's actually okay.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, that's good because sometimes it's like.
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Phil
Because the goal is human interaction and that's something that we, we lack nowadays.
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Tate Brown
This sounds bad, this sounds mean. But you remember on TLC they had that show, it was like my weird addiction. And there was that one guy who had a romantic relationship with those fire trucks. He was like really into fire trucks.
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Phil
No, I don't remember that show at all.
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Ian Crossland
I think I do.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, there was disruptions. My strange, yeah, my strange addiction. That guy. Again, this is really mean. I'm sorry if you're in the audience, the, the fire truck lover, but it's probably good if he's removed from the gene pool I was just thinking that.
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Ian Crossland
It'S not personal, but that's how nature functions. If a child's born with crippling, you know, debilitation, it doesn't survive. But if you have chat GPT to tell it how to get the girl, okay, it just might.
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Phil
You just took my example and turned it up to like Gooner 10. I'm talking about like helping people to interact. People that are like a little on the reserve side because there's a reason.
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Tate Brown
Love what they deserve. Love.
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Phil
Yeah, because I'm not talking about like, like dudes that want to bang toasters. I'm talking about like, like, you know.
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Tate Brown
If you're on bang and toes, if.
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Phil
You'Re an introverted person, it's difficult, it's difficult to, to learn to interact with people and stuff. Like, look, so I'm, I'm a fairly introverted kind of guy, right. Normally I had to learn how to interact with people and I'm perfectly fine with it nowadays. But you know, because of being a guy in a band, the singer, like, people want to talk to me. So I had to learn how to interact people, how to act like a normal person, not to be like, you know, feel uncomfortable. People that are extroverted, they go out and they hang out with people and they're like, oh, I feel great. You. They get. After that, they're like, they feel energized and stuff. People that are introverted, they go and they hang out with people and they're like, man, I need some time away from people. I need time alone. And I had to learn how to get through that. If you have a chat bot that helps you to learn to interact with people, so that way you can go out and do normal people things, not bang toasters, but go out and do normal human being things. I think that that's actually a win for society because it'll help to get people to, it'll help to get, get people to make more babies, to interact, have more fulfilled lives to. Because human connection is the thing that makes people feel fulfilled. And if you are a person that's kind of, you know, depressed and don't really know how to talk to people, but you talk with a chat bot and it kind of helps you build up your confidence and you can, you can go out and interact with people better, you're gonna have more people that are better adjusted and you're gonna have more people that, that feel more confident going up.
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Bobby Sauce
Yes.
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Phil
And obviously it's not going to work for everybody, but the people that it helps will actually have a more fulfilled and gratifying life.
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Ian Crossland
A little humiliating, but I'll mention it. When I got that same benefit from playing the Sims, they had like psychologists help develop the first few, I think. And watching them interact, like if you tried to hug a person over and over again, the person's like, ah, that's true. And I'm like, okay.
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Phil
And you learn about these little things.
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Ian Crossland
Like, maybe now is not the time.
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Bobby Sauce
To tell her you love her.
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Ian Crossland
Maybe just let her rest. And then like, okay, this is actually kind of helping me get out of.
- [54:41]
Phil
A pit that I was in.
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Ian Crossland
And I kind of, you know, I stopped smoking pot and I was.
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Bobby Sauce
Okay, that's. No, that actually is a, that actually is a fair point. And I would say that chat GPT is no different than reading a relationship book or anything else.
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Phil
How to Win Friends and Influence People. So that's Carnegie.
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Bobby Sauce
That's a net positive. Absolutely. But yeah, it was the uploading the girlfriend's personality in there, I thought to replace her. That kind of sent me.
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Phil
Yeah, I don't know about that. All right, we're gonna jump to this next story here. A little more white pilling for you guys from CBS News. Murders plummeted more than 20 US last year. The largest drop on record, study shows. I hear that it's the. Oh, actually it says right here. Murders plummeted more than 20% in 2025 from the year before. The single largest one year drop on record. And it might be the lowest murder rate in the US since 1900, a study released Thursday by the Council on Criminal justice found. The annual Crime Trends Report analyzed data from 40 large cities across the United States for 13 different crime types, including murder, carjapping, theft and drug offenses alongside homicide, which dropped 21% from 2024. Carjackings have declined 61% since 2023, while shoplifting is down 10 since 2024. In general, the overall crime rate declined with violent crimes at or below levels seen in 2019, the analysis found. Drug offenses were the only category that rose during this period, while sexual assault remained even. This is actually evidence that deporting people is probably a good thing. If you are going to send, if you're going to close the border, right, and stop drop people coming in and that's going to have a 20 drop in murder. Never open the border again. Never. Like, I mean, I mean, obviously I'm being a little hyperbolic there, but like deporting criminals works. Deporting criminals not just gets criminals out, but it makes criminals less likely to Commit crime because they're going to get effing deported.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, it makes, yeah, exactly. Makes the, the immigrant, illegally illegal immigrants less likely to commit violent crimes because they're more likely to get tossed. I don't know why I just repeated what you said. That's true.
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Bobby Sauce
I think that this is, I don't think any person could think that this is a bad thing. Like, we all want the murder rate to be lower, but not to like, don't call me black pill. But I, when I look at what they're saying there, they said from 40 large cities. So. Which 40 large cities? That's one thing. The second thing is that when Biden was the president, one of the things that Trump said is that the, the. And, and a lot of Republicans said is that the crime statistics are not real because they're not reporting to the FBI in these certain areas. So the crime statistics are off the charts. So it's like, are the trime. Are the crime statistics that they're giving us now to prove that they're low? Are those correct? Are they being compared to the ones that were the real statistics that we didn't have? Because they weren't reporting it. So what even is anything? And it says 40 cities. Which 40 cities have it? Did any other cities go up? So as as much as I want, want and like to celebrate this and would love to believe that it's true, these little small details confuse me. Where it's like, if we had the worst economy a year ago and now we have the best economy in the world, if we had the highest crime rate ever and now we have the best, it's like, where are we? Where are we? What are you trying to sell me, CBS News? Like, what are you trying to convince me of?
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Tate Brown
I'm with Bobby. Like, I don't think if you're in the Trump administration or if you're a Trump supporter, we should just be like, jumping for joy over this because. Yeah, to your point, I mean, these cities are starting to phone it in, probably maliciously on their crime data because there are, like, we can go to these cities. Things are not improving. Like, we're not idiots. Philadelphia's not improving. New York City not improving. Los Angeles not improving.
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Tate Brown
Ben. But Raleigh not improving. So it's like there's no way that Los angeles saw a 39% drop in homicides. That's absurd. And then you, you dig into it like you're seeing where they play it fast and loose like the racial classifications where it'll be like an obvious, like Guatemalan and they're like, it's a white guy.
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Phil
Okay, so the, these cities, right. So New York, Philadelphia, Omaha, Nebraska, Raleigh, North Carolina. These are, these are Democrat run cities. Right. So, so what, what, what would be the benefit for them to, to give crime statistics that are lower?
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Tate Brown
They don't want the National Guard coming and that's the whole reason.
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Bobby Sauce
Or to reelect there. Or to re, reelect more Democrats, for example.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. The Trump administration has made it very clear that if you can't clean up your mess and we're sending in the National Guard, we're going to put pressure on you. We're going to even touch your federal funding. So all that really did, it was great. Supportive of the National Guard coming in. But this is why we can't trust the crime data now because they are now directly incentivized to muddy the data. Like people were saying, people, for the record, people were saying, you can go on Twitter, people were saying this. When the first crackdown happened in Washington D.C. they said these police departments are going to start fudging the numbers.
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Bobby Sauce
Yes.
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Tate Brown
To keep the Trump administration from sending.
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Bobby Sauce
In the National Guard and also to keep Democrats in power in those respective areas. It's like, look, we got the crime down. So you know, if any movie that you've ever watched about politics, it's like they want, the mayor wants to get reelected.
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Phil
Yeah.
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Bobby Sauce
Let's just not classify that as, as what it is.
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Phil
But that's a double edged sword because the Republicans are gonna use that saying, look at how successful Donald Trump is. Look at how successful Donald Trump's policies have been. And so you've got, I mean, I think that the, I'm not sure which is a more compelling narrative because again, if Republicans are saying, look, our immigration policies have caused crime to go down, et cetera, et cetera, you know, people that aren't from these cities are gonna say, well, okay, well that's pretty good. Maybe, maybe I should vote for the Republicans again.
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Tate Brown
Again.
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Phil
And then the individual cities, obviously the, the politicians from the individual cities will say, well, see, my policies are actually good and they're reducing crime, so maybe there will be more. Maybe the, maybe Democrats that are in positions of power now will get reelected, but it still will credit the Donald Trump administration.
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Bobby Sauce
I would just say that they, I haven't seen them ever reference his job being bad as it relates to murders and, or crime. I don't think that that's like a winning argument for them. So if, even if you gave this to him, you still have a whole pile of other issues that you could hammer him on. So the murder rate being good serves your ends more than it hurts him. That's. How do you think, do you think.
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Phil
That this, do you think that the, the Donald Trump administration is going to be able to capitalize on this kind of information and say, look, our policies are helping?
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Tate Brown
I mean, they might try. They should, because it's just not from a political, like, from a political science point of view. It's not actually advantageous to applaud blue cities for, for lowering crime. I mean, you could attribute it to, like, some directives from the federal government, but that just doesn't seem wise. The Trump administration right now is actually incentivized to accurately portray the situation in the cities, which is they are out of control. They, like, are crying out for federal intervention. I, I haven't seen, I mean, maybe I'm wrong. I actually haven't seen any federal agencies, like, you know, chest beating over this data, nor should they. They should, they should continue doing what Trump had talked about previously, which is that some of this data is skewed. But what's not being talked about, which should be talked about, is that they're also misrepresenting racial crime data. And it creates a lot of problems. It makes it more difficult to draw policy to accurately give the people a picture of what's going on. Because in most of these cities, it's mostly black people committing the violent crime. But now you're seeing like, the black crime rate drop down and then you just, you just dig a little bit. You just spot check different cases and it'll be like literally a Guatemalan, literally a black guy and be like, it was a white guy.
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Phil
Well, I'm, I'm aware of the fact that there are times where they'll go ahead and misrepresent the race of the person committing crime. And particularly when it comes to Hispanic or Latino people, they'll call them white.
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Tate Brown
It's, and it's never the other. It's it's never like a white person getting labeled as black or Hispanic. It's just because, again, there's different incentive structures that would kick in if you accurately sort of laid out to the American people, like, who's committing the violent crime. I mean, we saw it after Arena Rutska, like, everyone for like two weeks was very comfortable going out and saying black crime is a huge problem. Just black culture in general is making our cities unlivable. But then like two weeks later, granted, Charlie happened. So that was, that took precedent. But then after that, like, people stopped talking about it. And I was like, okay, well, we're never gonna actually, like, our cities are never gonna be livable until we're just very direct and confront like black crime as a reality.
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Bobby Sauce
It reminds me of, it reminds me of in 2020 when it was the elections and the ballot issues and proving it. And I remember thinking to myself, you know, if I was a leftist mailman, for example, and I obtained a bag of what I knew to be votes, and I didn't want Trump to win because I thought he was a fascist dictator that was going to destroy the country and democracy would die forever. You know, couldn't I, wouldn't nobody have to tell me that I should just throw these ballots in the garbage and pretend that I lost them. If I got them from a, let's say a nursing home in a red area, that I knew that they were likely to be Trump ballots, wouldn't I just know to throw them out because I'm helping to save? Leave the dictator. I would wager that it's highly likely that these types of things as well could be altered in that same way where you don't necessarily need to get a directive from the top down Democratic Party to say, hey, fudge these numbers. But they're like, hey, man, you know, the bot, the captain of the police squad says, don't put it in as a black guy, put it in as a white guy. And it just kind of trickles through as like an unspoken understanding where this benefits us. And what it also does is it makes, makes Trump going and knocking down doors and getting people out not seem like it's justified because it's really not that violent.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, well, police unions are one of the last institutions in America that are actually conservative still. Like, if you go, and again, spot check different cities, look at their police unions, they're typically endorsing Republicans. They're typically made up. I mean, police officers, we all know police officers, like, the majority of police officers are like conservative Patriots, it's the police chiefs which are appointed by the mayor, or sheriffs which are elected by the county. Typically these counties are blue. So unfortunately they're taking directives from those guys. And then also a lot of the desk jobs and police departments are not staffed by like patriots that are on the patrol. They're staffed by just whoever they can find. A lot of times, no offense to. There's some great people I know that work on police desks, but they're, they're pulled out of like the general population. They're not like police, like hardened police officers. So those are the people that probably have more of a liberal leaning and would be incentivized to hide the ball a little bit, what's going on in these cities.
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Bobby Sauce
Yeah, exactly. And that's what I'm saying. It's like, I wouldn't be surprised if that type of thing was happening in all types of statistical reporting and all types of everything. And even in newsrooms or whatever. If you were, if you were a leftist reporter that was for a, let's call it a middle of the line, you know, outlet or something.
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Phil
I don't know.
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Bobby Sauce
How many, how many journalists are there with you on the scene to get whatever the story is, could you alter it a little bit to serve your own ends? Could that happen? Because if you frame Trump as the second coming of the worst dictator in the history of time and the democracy is going to die in darkness and we're going to lose democracy forever, and this guy represents an existential, existential threat to humanity as a whole. It's like the collective modification that would happen all the way up and down the chain without any directive, I think would be everywhere.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, it's all, it's all incentive structures. Like, I mean, you're exactly right. Is like, I mean, it's not, you know, a top down. It's not Nancy Pelosi giving out talking points to like the Jacksonville County Sheriff's Department. It's just like, it's all unspoken. It's all like this kind of looks a little bad. Maybe we can clean things up a little bit.
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Ian Crossland
It.
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Tate Brown
And they can justify it to themselves. They can come up with like, reasons for why they're doing these things, even if it's explicitly racial justice or something, which you do see from time to time. But yeah, Bobby, more than that, time.
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Phil
To time, I think that's, that's the motivating factor for, yeah, like for most.
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Tate Brown
Of the left generally, it helps them moralize these things. And so, yeah, it's not Like a top down directive. Even, even in the media, like even in the media, it's not the New York Times. I mean they do have a relationship obviously, obviously with the Democrat Party. In many ways they're like the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. But none of these things require like directives. A lot of these things are just, these people are instinctually liberals, they're instinctually left wing and they view themselves as part of a revolution. And so they're going to behave in accordance with that.
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Phil
Yeah, that's something that we talked about is the lack of necessity for, you know, liberals or progressives to act like progressives. Right. Like you get the, you don't. Whereas there are times where I think there's a script that comes out for specific issues. There are things that they want like the, the thought leaders to say, say overall you don't have to instruct the progressive on what to say on each individual issue because it's like, like you don't, you don't have to tell a Catholic how to be a Catholic. The, the liberal progressive really does treat their politics as if it's a religion. And because of that you don't have to tell them, oh, this is what you're supposed to think about this. Or this is what you have, you're supposed to think about this. You'll get some variation in, in the way that they apply by the doctrine. But if you're a liberal progressive that went to college that, that kind of was indoctrinated with that thought process. It doesn't take, you know, it doesn't take someone telling you what to think or, or this is this issue, you have this opinion. This issue, you have this opinion because the doctrine is, is part of the way that you see the world. You know, when, when people would talk about critical race theory that that phrase has kind of fallen out of, of favor and, and people say, oh, woke is dead. So we don't have to worry about it. It, it's totally wrong because it's not about just one policy or, or just some people. It's a way to view the world and it's taught from, you know, from, from great. Nowadays there, there are people that are out in, in society that were taught from grade school all the way through college and they got into jobs in human resources. And so that's just the way they see the world. It doesn't, it doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to be in instructed to anymore. This is to them, that's how reality is. And that's part of why there's such a divide between the right and the left. People on the right didn't internalize those ideas or were insulated from them somehow, whether it be through family, through their church, through whatever it may be. And people on the left, they really do see the world through this critical lens where you have to try your best to make sure that you are, are, are. Are trying to implement justice for the marginalized communities in every aspect, in every chance you get.
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Bobby Sauce
Well, you need to look like that's what you're trying to do more so than you actually. The more than you actually have to be effective at doing it. You need people to think that you're empathetic to them, which is what actually happens. Doesn't matter. You just want them to think that you are like that, which is.
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Phil
It kind of adds to my point about it being a religion. Like there are plenty of Christians out there and plenty of, plenty of, plenty of people that would say that they're religious, that, you know, they're in church on Sunday and then, you know, on. On Tuesday they're out with the boys, chasing skirts around town or, or, you know, while their, their wife's home with, with the kids or whatever. You know, there are plenty of people that can. That are doing things just to, you know, to keep up appearances.
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Bobby Sauce
So, yeah, like a lot of leftism, I think, is very performative where if you come to them and you say, well, even though I want to protect this, this group of people and protect this class of people, when you put this policy in that you guys think helps this group of people, here's what actually happens. It ends up way worse than it is. Oh, I don't know about all that. And, and by me disagreeing with all the people that look empathetic by doing the wrong thing, well, that puts me out of it. So I don't care about what actually happens. I care about how it looks like it. Like I think, or how empathetic I hear. And then they get stuck in that trap where they now they hate you do. And they could just say, well, he's not empathetic. That's not me.
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Phil
I mean, look, if the left really cared about, about people that were downtrodden and stuff, they'd all be like, you know, progressives. I mean, they'd all be capitalists that want to have strong property rights. Because the, the. The engine that takes people out of poverty that has shown over and over again is free markets and, and property rights. Those things. If you give those, if you if you give a population property rights and free markets, then you're going to see a massive increase in wealth and, and you're going to see a huge, huge amount of the population be pulled out of poverty. And then, I mean, in the United States, the only people that are in actual poverty are people that can't function in our society due to, you know, mental illness or, or sometimes drug addiction. But it's a very, very, very small amount of people in the US that are, that are chronically poor. And if, and you know, whether you like them or not. Ben Shapiro's made this point a lot. There's really only three things you got to do. Don't have a kid outside of marriage. Marriage, keep a job for 10 years and get married. And you'll probably not be in poverty for you won't be chronically in poverty. You may, you know, people hit on hard times, people lose jobs and stuff, but if you do those things, you can get out of poverty and have a pretty good life in the United States.
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Bobby Sauce
Well, irrespective of the cause of the poverty, generally speaking, the free market principles and not the just give us handouts about is ultimately what will pull them out of it. It's like by, by putting them on the dole, by putting them on food stamps in perpetuity for life and not encouraging them to get a job or whatever, you're creating their environment for they, for them to be trapped in that as opposed to get them out of it. So we both want to help the poor person. This one will just actually create lasting change. This will actually trap them. But you'll get all the woke points in the now. And that's why they don't care about what happens happens. They just care about how it looks right now.
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Tate Brown
The problem is, like with all this is we're only talking about like what white liberals are advocating for. And you see this, this problem all around the world. This is actually like a good example is Malaysia where you have the melee population which underperforms, the Chinese population overperforms. And the melee population in Malaysia sets up these massive incentive networks, like from the government through welfare, through food stamps to a degree, these sorts of things. Because like, like you can never expect a group that underperforms for whatever reason you want to prescribe, like why they underperform. You can never expect them to not advocate for government subsidies. They're going to want to subsidize their existence to a degree. So the United States, like part of the issue is, yes, white liberals advocate for these policies because they just perceive like it's going to help them, even though it's misguided and wrong. But like black Americans, Hispanic Americans to a degree will advocate for these policies purely so they feel like they can keep up, up with the rest of the country. And so it's really this, this is not a uniquely American problem. This occurs all over the world is when there is a population in a country that underperforms, naturally they're going to advocate for policies that benefit that population, no matter their size. Like you see in South Africa, where like black Africans make up like 80% of the country and they have completely reoriented the government to provide them with subsidies, provide them with welfare networks, because again, they're just trying to, in their eyes, keep up. And so obviously if they're underperforming, they're just going to advocate for policies that provide them with subsidies, provide them with welfare benefits and that sort of thing.
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Phil
Yeah. All right, we're going to jump to this story here, and this is a little bit lighter fair. From the New York Post. Jared Kushner shows off renderings of futuristic Gaza with skyscrapers and suburbs. Maragaza, ladies and gentlemen. It is on the way. Jared Kushner unveiled an ambitious vision Thursday for a cosmopolitan Gaza Strip that will attempt attract investment and tourists after years of war. Looking much like his father in law, President Trump's call for converting the war torn Mediterranean territory into a Riviera of the Middle East, Kushner, 45, showed off renderings of lux beachfront skyscrapers and suburban subdivisions for the Palestinian territories. Nearly 2 million people, many of whom are currently living in tents beneath rubble in the aftermath of a two year war that ended in October. I mean, you can look at these pictures and I mean it looks great if Israel doesn't bomb it.
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Ian Crossland
You know, Gaza, 51st state.
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Phil
No, two years ago.
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Ian Crossland
No, this is another example of Ian was right, so acknowledge I'm a prophet and that I will be your future president.
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Phil
It's not, it's not going to be a 51st state. It is not going to be a U.S. territory.
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Ian Crossland
You need to be Israeli territory.
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Phil
I, I assume so, yeah.
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Tate Brown
I assume they're trying to set it up where there's going to be like a, a interim administration. They're claiming it'll be Palestinian led and then eventually they do want to turn the governance of the territory back over to the plo. And then this is the purpose of this Council of Board of Peace things that they're calling it is they're basically going to try and set up these international structures that will ensure the PLO doesn't just like. Re.
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Bobby Sauce
Re.
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Tate Brown
Like, they don't vote for Hamas again.
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Phil
Well, I mean, the plo, if it's the plo, it might actually be something that's possible because, you know, the. The people in Gaza voted for Hamas and Hamas, you know, then they ended elections and Hamas was like, all right, we're. We are here to kill Jews. Right? Like, that's their whole existence. Whereas if you look at the way the west bank works, like, you don't have the same kind of. Of violence from the West Bank. Now, there are obviously some. There are clashes and there are. There are problems. There are problems with the Israeli settlements and. And there's disagreements and fights about that. But it's not what Gaza was. Right? Like, Gaza. Gaza had. They had to close the borders with Gaza because Gaza was constantly firing rockets into Israel and stuff. So if you can get the PLO in there. The Palestinian Authority, like. Yeah, not the plo. The.
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Tate Brown
Is it the plo?
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, the plasma.
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Phil
Well, that was the Palestinian. Well, no, it's. Now it's the Palestinian Authority, right? Yeah. So if you can get the Palestinian Authority into Gaza and have them in charge, I think that it's possible. The new Rafa, they're talking about 100k, 100,000 plus permanent housing units, 200 plus education centers, cultural, religious and vocational centers, and 75 medical facilities. New Gaza, which would be developed later, would hub, would be a hub of industry and employment. He said, in the beginning, we're toying with the idea of saying, let's build a free zone and then we have a Hamas zone. And then we said, you know what? Let's just plan for catastrophic success. As Kushner, who alongside special envoy Steve Witkoff, brokered an end to the war. Kushner also negotiated the Abraham Accords, establishing Israeli relations with four Arab countries during Trump's first term, and said the grandiose reconstruction vision may likewise seem impossible before it happens. Hamas signs a deal to demilitarize. That is what we are going to enforce. People ask us what our plan is, what our Plan B is. We do not have a Plan B. He said, we have a plan. We signed an agreement. We are all committed to making that agreement work. There's a master plan. We'll be doing it in phases. They've got demilitarized demilitarization principles the next hundred days. Do you think that this is something that's possible? Take.
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Tate Brown
No, no, no, no. It's never going to happen. I mean, like, part of the issue.
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Phil
I mean, Kushner's pretty good at this stuff.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, like the, but the X factor is like the population, I mean, because that's the X factor, you know, not to like dunk on Gazans. Like, it's not what my intention when I'm just saying this as a reality is the reason the west bank is somewhat functional and Gaza is not is because there's literally, I think it's like a 15 to 20 point IQ difference between Palestinians and Gaza, Gaza and Palestinians in the west bank. Because the west bank, like if you look like Bethlehem, for example, like the birthplace of Christ, by law, they have to have a Christian mayor. Like the west bank has a lot of these, like actually fairly decent agreements with the local population. It's a much more stitched together, like formalized part of the world. And then Gaza is like a war zone. And it has been for the last 20, 30 years. I don't know how you get the population of Gaza out of that mentality. So that's kind of the question. And it wasn't addressed. And this is like, okay, what are you going to do with the Gazans? And I, I, I, what, what like what seems to be happening is with Somaliland being set up, obviously now they've been recognized by Israel and they'll probably be in turn recognized by the United States and probably a few other Western nations. Is the plan is they're going to try and dump a lot of the Gazans there? Because that's been the biggest issue from like, from the Israeli perspective is that they want to just push the Gazans out. The question is where? Because these Arab states will not.
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Phil
Yeah, nobody wants to take, every time you get a, a large population of the, the Palestinians, at least the, the Gazans, they try to take over the country. Well, and they try to take over Kuwait. They try to think Jordan says we're not going to take them. Egypt, there was an uprising.
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Tate Brown
Well, and also to steel man, the, the Arab position on why they don't want to take the Gazans is because they, they believe that the only leverage that, that they have in this entire conflict is the fact that Gazans are there. And so if you take the Gazans out, the Palestinians out of Gaza, then there's zero leverage left for the Arab states. Like Israel can just effectively annex it. So that's the primary reason. Like Egypt, for example, doesn't want to take them. Yes, there's like the political ramifications of taking them in. Like Lebanon is a great example. Lebanon used to be Primarily Christian, was like 70% Christian as establishment. Actually, the French designated Lebanon to be like the Christian state in the Middle East. East. And then as soon as they'll out of the Palestinian refugees flooded in, change the demographics. Now, Lebanon's by all accounts a disaster. But the pri, I think, personally, I also agree. I think it's the primary reason these Arab states don't want to take the Gazans in is because they feel like once you take them in as refugees, they won't go back. And then Israel can basically do what they want in Gaza, and then that takes away any leverage that the Arab states would have in the Gaza situation.
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Ian Crossland
So it's less that they don't want to take them, it's more about that they want them to stay there.
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Tate Brown
They want them to stay there. Yeah. Again, that's their position, and that's what I suspect also. I think that probably is their reasoning for it. I mean, Phil has a point, and that's a factor of it. They've seen what happened in Lebanon to a degree in Jordan, but I know it's.
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Ian Crossland
Sorry to interrupt. Did you have a cap there? It's like they say history rhymes. And it's like they're taking these people and they want to repopulate them, but they won't take them because when they arrive, they start making banks and become lawyers. No, no, it's not. No, no.
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Phil
They're not making banks and lawyers.
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Ian Crossland
Those are different people that don't over.
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Phil
That they're trying to take over the country.
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Ian Crossland
It's the other populations that was ejected out of Germany because they would take over countries. They said, crazy how it rhymes.
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Bobby Sauce
Crazy. They're not doing any favors to make anybody believe that this wasn't their intent all along. Yeah, this is certainly not. This is certainly not disproving or discouraging people from believing that. And it's like in the event that all of this was to happen, happen, and the. The statement, where do we put the Gossens? Is very funny, but it's like, who's gonna make all the money from this? It's like if they're investing all this money to build all of these buildings, they're trying to extract as much value as possible out of there. And if there is so much money to be made, then could that have been the reason? Is that the reason? Does it look like that's the reason that that's why they did all of this in the first place?
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Tate Brown
I don't even think it's. I don't think it's so much as a monetary thing. I think it's just like a, it's a goal for Israel to not have to like deal with Gaza anymore.
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Bobby Sauce
To build a brand new city with skyscrapers and hundreds of thousands of homes.
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Tate Brown
Because it goes back to the question of like, okay, how do we get the Gazans out? Again, that's the Israeli perspective. That's, you know, whatever. I mean, look, and this could solve their, the Israel's problem.
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Phil
So to speak to Tate's point, like.
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Ian Crossland
This could be their final solution.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. So to speak.
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Bobby Sauce
One solution.
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Ian Crossland
Not it's just a potential final solution.
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Tate Brown
It's removed from the historical context.
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Ian Crossland
By the way, that's what Hitler said about the Jews was he was looking for a final solution of what they do.
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Phil
And that's a completely separate, completely separate conversation. But no, I mean actually is incredibly different.
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Tate Brown
But that's, that's what's being set up in, in Somaliland is they've, they finally found a partner that's in the region that would take the Gazans and it is Somaliland.
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Ian Crossland
It's not just about Jewish people, Israelis, Gazans. Repopulation is an ancient, ancient thing that you do with a population.
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Bobby Sauce
When you conquered them, you, yeah.
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Ian Crossland
Oftentimes will just send them somewhere.
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Phil
Well that's a lot of time historically. A lot of times they like, they would just kill them all. Well like in history, like when, when a conquering force comes in, a lot of times they would just kill all the men and boys and then they would just take the women.
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Tate Brown
But that's why the post war, that's why that's. Well, that's why the post war situation, the post war consensus is interesting because we don't really do that much anymore. You don't see like again from like countries that are bought into the global system. You actually don't really see many like full blown genocides anymore. What you do see is a lot of like resettlement where I mean obviously Israel's killed quite a few people in Gaza. But like if they wanted to eliminate everyone there, they probably could. But like what you saw in Germany, for example, after the end of the war they redrew the borders in Europe. They tried to clean things up. What happened was they cut Germany in half and now like a third of Germany is now Polish. Poland. You have a lot of Germans there. What do you do with them? Do you try to integrate them to Poland? No, you deport all them back to Germany. So you saw these massive population exchanges occurring in Europe after the war. So I think that's Kind of the precedent. Again, it's. It's not great. I mean, you don't want to see, like, people removed from where they live, but, you know, it's the reality. It's the world we live in. And so that's. I think what's going on here is. I don't suspect if this happened, which I just don't even think is going to happen anyway, because you got to get the Gulf states to play along. And the Gulf States. States are probably not going to. They can barely complete a lot of these mega projects in their own countries. But even hypothetically, if it goes exactly to plan, Gazans aren't going to live there. They can't. They can't really support a sort of a society that looks like they would.
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Phil
They would just take all of the. The resources there and do everything they could to make more missiles. And what's going to happen to Israel?
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Tate Brown
I think we all know what's going to happen is the ceasefire is going to be violated by either Israel or Gaza.
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Phil
It's been violent.
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Tate Brown
It's been violated a few times. Ready? And then this. This ceasefire that, again, Kushner's putting a lot of weight into, is just. It's not going to hold. It. It won't.
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Bobby Sauce
Wouldn't it be cool if Jared Kushner and all the people that were going to invest into this pro. This project and everybody talking about it, wouldn't it be cool if they did that in, like, I don't know, America, like, maybe Detroit or maybe literally anywhere. It's like, if we. We don't barely manufacture anything here, wouldn't this be helpful? Helpful for America?
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [85:05]
Bobby Sauce
Seems like that'd be kind of a good thing to do in America. Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Because that's kind of the question is, like, who funds this? Again, if it's the Gulf states, that's great. But either way, like, I actually don't think there's going to be much money extracted. I think everyone's gonna, like, get their lunch eaten on this project because it's gonna be really expensive. You're gonna have to, again, clean got, like, you're gonna have to clean out all of the rubble. Yeah, you gotta demilitarize it. There's mines everywhere. There's a lot of weaponry. Like, it's going to be a very, very expensive project. Bodies are. Well, because, like, the Gulf states are, again, they're trying to form, like, a coalition against Iran. And so you have. These Sunni Muslims are looking at Israel and they're like, they could be a more viable partner Because Israel is trying to position themselves as the regional power. Yeah. And so they just see like, okay, these Sunni states have the same enemy we do, which is Iran. And so that's what the incentive basically would be for these Gulf states is it's a geopolitical play. It's how they play ball with Israel and build that relationship.
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Bobby Sauce
Power translates into money. So in the event that this gives them the ability to have access to more power, then there's a lot of money to be made. So whether or not they break even or whatever, on this particular project, which I, I can't imagine that like real estate developers that have generated billions of dollars for themselves would just go into this thing not being able to make money. Yeah, certainly there's a money played down the line somewhere. And I would wager that it's probably a ton, like maybe we'll break even. I bet they are going to make a ton of money from that.
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Tate Brown
They're certainly trying to buy influence. And like, that's the way the world works inside of the West. The west is the only country that when they make these investments, they expect returns. Where other countries, the way that they operate, when they're building projects like this, specifically China's, they don't actually expect returns right away. They expect these to be geopolitical plays. Like, look, for example, with China's Belt and Road initiative where they built this massive deep water port in Sri Lanka, again, they knew they were never going to make their money back on that. They knew that the Sri Lankan government was never actually gonna be able to make payments on it. So what they did is they spent the money they built. The port is a like fantastic massive deep sea water port. And yeah, and then of course, Sri Lanka falls behind on payments, they seize the port. You just bought influence. So it's like, okay, you lost some money, like from a pure, like, accounting perspective, but you just bought yourself a deep water port in the Indian Ocean. So it's like that.
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Bobby Sauce
But that's a. But that's, that's, that's diplomats or, or heads of state making those decisions for the interest of that country. Jared is an independent citizen.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Bobby Sauce
You know, with a bunch of investors that are also likely not states. They're people that are individuals that are putting up, that are willing to put up capital. And I mean one of the most expensive parts of developing something like this is, would be the land itself. If you can just take it.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Bobby Sauce
You can steal beach property.
- [88:13]
Tate Brown
That's what it is.
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Bobby Sauce
Kills a little bit of the cost structure down, you know.
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Phil
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Because you have to look at like, you know, and I'm, I'm not, you know, like, I don't really talk about Israel much just because it's not. Most of my commentary is like American focus. But if you look at like the play here, who wins out of all this, Israel benefits like dramatically.
- [88:31]
Bobby Sauce
Yeah.
- [88:32]
Tate Brown
And so it's like, yeah, so it's.
- [88:34]
Phil
Like, you know, getting the Gazans out. Israel, I mean from, from Israel's perspective, if they can get the Gazans out, that's, that's the win.
- [88:40]
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah.
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Phil
Whether or not, I mean even, even if you just got the Gazans out and then paved all of the Gaza strikes Strip and it was a parking lot, they would still benefit because they don't have to deal with the terrorism.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. The whole reason, like they, they haven't. I mean some people will say Israel is just like a purely benevolent country, which I. No, but it's just funny case. They're self interested as every other country is. But like the Americans would. They do. The Americans like do. I don't actually buy that Israel just like completely controls the United States because we do have a line. Like if they went in and like just leveled Gaza like to the ground, the Americans would probably say like chill a little bit. They have. I mean we've seen it before where they deny Israel strikes, these sorts of things. Like we do operate autonomously at times.
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Phil
But we're going to create this Gaza Strip mall.
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Tate Brown
That's what we're going to make Gaza Strip mall.
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Bobby Sauce
This is, give them jobs, an opportunity.
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Phil
I've heard this before.
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Bobby Sauce
It's just funny how it says in the slideshow. It's like empowering Gazans.
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Tate Brown
The Gazans are never going to see that.
- [89:33]
Phil
Okay.
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Bobby Sauce
Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying.
- [89:35]
Phil
I mean, look, the Israelis pulled out of Gaza in what, 2005 or whatever that was in power in Gaza and then they had a bunch of terrorist attacks and then October 7 happened. Israel has no, no incentive to actually empower Gazans. Because when the, when the Gazans are empowered, it means Israelis die.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, that's the. That's the tragic. I'm not one of these people that like that, but. Yeah, yeah. Like, I've never been one of these people that, like, completely, like, pearl clutches over Gaza. But I will say it's like, very unfortunate the situation Gazans are in because they're really just at the center of like a geopolitical struggle.
- [90:05]
Phil
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Nor Israel, nor the Arab states are particularly concerned with the Gazans.
- [90:10]
Phil
Not at all.
- [90:10]
Tate Brown
They're really just kind of seen as like a tiny chip to be played.
- [90:14]
Bobby Sauce
Both sides, too.
- [90:16]
Tate Brown
Arab states and Israel both, again, view these people as playing sort of. Yeah, like a chip on a. On a board.
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Phil
All right, we're going to jump to this story and I think Ian's going to really Love this from AZ Sports. 49ers investigate wild conspiracy theory that could be contributing to injuries. The San Francisco 49 niner season is over, but this offseason will go slightly different than those in the past. Per ESPN's Nick Wagoneer, the 49ers are investigating conspiracy theory that has really gained traction over the last couple of weeks. The team is investigating whether or not the electrical substation near the facility is contributing to the extreme rash of injuries over the years. Because it deals with allegedly the health and safety of our players. I think you have to look into everything. John lynch told reporters in his end of the year presser. We've been reaching out to anyone and everyone to see if a study exists other than a guy sticking an apparatus underneath the fence and coming up with a number that I have no idea what that. That means. That's what we. That's what we know exists. So there's a substation. Right. I'm looking for the picture here. Maybe it was in one of the other. One of the other pieces on it. So the substation is right next to. Here we go. The substation is right here, surrounded in red. And this is the 49ers facility. This is their practice field. And here's Levi Stadium. Allegedly. What's going on? What people think is the substation is causing a ma. A rash of injuries and they spend 90, I guess it says, where the 49ers players spend 90% of their work days. So you've got a bunch of. A bunch of injuries and people are thinking that it might be the cause of the substation. Ian, what do you think?
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Ian Crossland
I've been reading. I was basically taking a crash course through chatgpt about what living near a substation would do to you. You says that there's four basic ways.
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Tate Brown
That it can affect you.
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Ian Crossland
One of them is EMF electromagnetic fields which are known to cause it's like not really documented links of weakness but headaches, dizziness, fatigue. Controlled blind studies fail to reproduce the effects though generally is what they say. So you've got electromagnetic fields that could potentially be doing it. Stray voltage grounding issues. So you might have electricity underground that's causing massive risk there there muscle twitching, tingling and I mean muscle twitching for an athlete is like game breaking noise and vibration underestimated but legitimate it says. And environmental and land use factors which would be like toxins and the poor air quality. But this damn. You know, electricity is so new in the human experiment at this time around that we know of 150 years.
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Phil
Yeah, you know it's only a couple.
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Ian Crossland
Hundred years old in the last last hundred thousand. I mean they, maybe they had it before the flood, but we don't really know what kind of effect it's having on our bodies very much. And radiation now with like WI fi and stuff. I wonder, I wonder if it's part of why we're seeing auroras and the pole shifts and the is because of electricity.
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Phil
We have so much electricity.
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Ian Crossland
You can see it from space, the lights. It's just a fascinating story. I just don't know.
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Bobby Sauce
I love a good conspiracy theory and I would likely believe something like this if I had more time to dive into it. But, but I would almost wager that it's probably more likely the physical the like this. These are the highest, most engineered athletes in the world. They're, they're getting tested about every possible thing imaginable. They're doing feats of strength that many of us would never even be be tested on oursel in our entire life. And on top of that they made the playoffs and excelled despite all that. So if you looked at those few guys, I would bet it's the physical therapy team team and the doctors that are on the staff that are more likely responsible.
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Phil
You think they're dropping the ball?
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Bobby Sauce
Well maybe they, maybe they're, maybe they're not. Maybe they're not indicating whether or not a person would be susceptible to injury that specific day. Like maybe their flexibility is not enough that day. And the doctor says go ahead, you're still good to play. Whereas another doctor might say if your ankle is tight and you can't bend to this degree, then it's a bad idea for you to play more than 10 minutes today or something like that. So I would. But it's the physical therapy to team more likely than not. And I don't think that The San Francisco 49ers would outwardly admit that that was the case because that would be admitting that they failed their own players.
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Phil
With all the money that goes into, you know, any NFL team, you'd think that they would be, you know, if there was any substance to the, the idea, you'd think that they'd be aware of it, you know.
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Tate Brown
Well, they, I mean they are. That's. So there's the Washington Post article on, on that was on this subject. And if you read in it, they're, they're saying they didn't say which players, but a lot of these players agents have been reaching team been reaching out to the press about concerns specifically that the players are taking longer to recover from injuries than any of their other clients. Which is pretty interesting. And if you look at like the map, obviously have the substation there, I think it was on the third tab.
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Phil
Let's see, here we go.
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Tate Brown
The big red circle Y. So obviously the circled in red is a substation which people were like, that substation has been there since the 80s and there wasn't injuries. Well, I think it was like 2004. They actually expanded it massively. And then that's when you started to see the 49ers have an outlying outlet. They were outliers in terms of long term injuries. And then also if you look below the red circle, there's a lot of houses there. And it was also reported that the majority of players live in those houses.
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Phil
Oh really?
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Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah. So they spend about 90% of the season in or around this substation. So I don't think it's like something completely dismissed and like what he was talking about. Emfs to a degree have been reported to like disrupt the nervous system, which again makes it more difficult to heal from injuries. So I don't think the question is, is, are these players suffering the injuries because of the substation? I think the question is, are their bodies able to recover quick enough, which could lead to more injuries, massive injuries.
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Phil
Or a small injury.
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Tate Brown
Getting like you, you get like, yeah, you get like a tweak in your Achilles, but then your body can't heal properly. That's what causes the traumatic Achilles injury rather than the EMF specifically causing a traumatic injury.
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Phil
The demand to play and, and per. To perform at the top level is, is.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, that's what the agents said. The agents didn't say, oh My God. Gosh. The substation is causing my client to tear his acl. They're saying it's causing him to recover slower compared to their other clients.
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Bobby Sauce
Maybe we should protest at the substation. We should gather back, gather a bunch of churches. Let's call up Don Lyme and get in there.
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Ian Crossland
What's that?
- [96:33]
Phil
I said, I'll get some orange paint, bro, and throw it everywhere. Yeah, there you go.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
Browns fan. I. I was up in Tampa. I like saying non sequitur nonsense stuff sometimes. If you didn't know.
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Tate Brown
Are you a Brown?
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Ian Crossland
I do, yeah. I don't know what you said, and I agreed with you.
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Phil
Are you a. I used to be.
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Bobby Sauce
When I lived in Ohio.
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Phil
From Ohio.
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Ian Crossland
They suffered massive injuries constantly. And I. People never knew why. Tim Couch went down, Kellen Winslow Jr. Went down, and it was like, are we cursed? I think it was the training staff.
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Bobby Sauce
But maybe they were born or something.
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Tate Brown
Having to live in Cleveland also takes a toll on the body as well. The mistake by the lake.
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Ian Crossland
So I was up in Tampa a couple days ago, and I drove by a substation, and all I thought was I would. Could not imagine living next to that thing. That would be horrific to live near that thing.
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Bobby Sauce
Like, what kind of damage is that.
- [97:16]
Ian Crossland
Doing to the surroundings? I thought those things. This is like four days ago.
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Phil
The intensity on your face when you're talking about it, like, I believe you.
- [97:22]
Ian Crossland
It's just emanating, invisible force. You're like, what the.
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Bobby Sauce
What is that doing to the environment?
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Tate Brown
Yeah, we are. The test experiment I was reading about, it was Havana Syndrome, where, like, back in the day, a lot of these diplomats were reporting that they were getting sick for, like, seemingly no reason. And they're. They're pointing to EMFs there because, again, in the Washington Post article, a lot of the players. I don't know if it was the players of the agents reporting on behalf of the players anonymously were saying, also, these guys are getting sick a lot more often or they're feeling nauseous and these sorts of things. And that was the original speculation with the Havana gun, is that they were able to deploy some sort of weapon that would, again, like, effectively blast EMF at you. And so it. I mean, these things are all, like, it's worth digging into. I mean, the fact that the 49ers are taking it seriously indicates that this isn't just some, like, Kary.
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Phil
Well, I mean, I think, look, if you're. If you're. If you're the 49ers owner, you know, and Your players are taking longer to heal. I. I can't imagine that you would leave any stone unturned. You know, the. The amount of money that goes into any NFL team. But, you know, the. The San Francisco 49ers, like, they've. They've got a. A pretty decent history. And, you know, the. I can't imagine that the. The owners would say, ah, that's bs. I. I'd be. I think they'd be like, go find out, you know?
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Phil
Because they have the funds to investigate it, you know.
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Bobby Sauce
Oh, yeah. There's a lot of money to be lost if you. Like, if you lose Kittle right in the. In the wild card game, that's. You're losing a ton of money. So if there is any substance to. That's the other thing. It's like, as. I don't know that the. I don't know that the Internet, as much as I love the Internet and the collective power of it, would solve this faster than the people that have billions of dollars on the line.
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Phil
I don't know. Shia LaBeouf.
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Bobby Sauce
I don't know. I just feel like they. I don't know. You would think that they would be on top of that if they were. Were ahead of the. Just the collective.
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Ian Crossland
I don't.
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Bobby Sauce
Maybe not. I don't know.
- [99:03]
Ian Crossland
I put these. I don't know if you guys still use phones to your head. I stopped.
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Bobby Sauce
I don't do that.
- [99:07]
Ian Crossland
Eight years ago. I was like. It started. I used to carry it in my pocket.
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Phil
I get angry at people that call me, text me. Like, I don't want. I don't want to be on the phone.
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Ian Crossland
I used to keep it in my pocket. And then all of a sudden, I started to get a dull pain in.
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Phil
My left leg where I keep the phone.
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Ian Crossland
I was like, oh, can't do that anymore. So I started putting it in, like.
- [99:22]
Phil
A backpack or in my backpack.
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Ian Crossland
Now I have a fanny pack, which has an EMF shield in it built in.
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Tate Brown
Oh, got to protect the family jewels.
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Phil
Yeah, dude.
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Ian Crossland
And I use phone. I. I hate having this thing near my head. I don't know how far away it's supposed to be at night when you sleep turned off.
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Phil
I.
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Ian Crossland
Sometimes I have it on, like, six feet away. But even then, I feel like it's affecting me.
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Tate Brown
Someone just like. It was a name on Twitter. He just posted a video of ground beef cooking in a microwave. And then he was like, this is what's happening to your brain when you're using AirPods. And then I got rid of my AirPods. Like I'm pretty easy to be persuaded on these things. Like I'm. I pretty much believe if it appears in my timeline I will take it at face value. Until five year old was, I guess, just the reality.
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Bobby Sauce
So did you fall for the this is your brain on drugs commercial when they scrambled the eggs and then. Or when the. Or when the girl smoked the weed and like melted 5?
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Phil
He doesn't know any of this.
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Bobby Sauce
Oh, dang.
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Tate Brown
No, but like I remember the one. I do remember the one commercial where this. The smoker lady and she's like. And like the shower's running in the background and she's like, I can't face the shower cuz the hole in my throat I would drown. And I remember that and I switched to Zen.
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Ian Crossland
So tracheotomy. Avoid that.
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Phil
Avoid obsessive smoking. All right, we're going to go to the the Super Chats and Rumble Rants right now. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know, tell all your friends, make sure you become a member@rumble.com and join our Discord. If you're a member of the Discord, you can call in for our after show which will start at 10pm tonight. You can call in, ask the panel questions, give us your anecdotes and stuff. But right now we're gonna go to your Rumble rants. Let's see, what do we got here?
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Sponsor Voice
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Phil
Yeah, bring those things up. I'm old.
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Ian Crossland
I can't about tonight, I want to know.
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Tate Brown
There's a bunch of sinners. Is that good?
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Phil
Yeah, bring it. Bring it up a little bit. I'm an old guy.
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Ian Crossland
Good.
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Tate Brown
All right, we want like a proper rant, you know, none of this like, oh, you guys are doing great work. No, no, a real like a anger. Yeah.
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Phil
So vitriol Leto says Phil, fan of you. Matt Wash, doppelganger, works for Linus Tech Tips. His name is Dave and he's quite. He's a quite polite Canadian. Need to find a way to make Walsh see him.
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Tate Brown
Walsh was crashing out the other day because he was saying any guy with like a dark beard and glasses gets called his doppelganger.
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Phil
I don't, I mean, I don't even have a dark beard. I'm. I mean, my eyebrows are blonde, man.
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Ian Crossland
They said ginger cast blonde guy.
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Bobby Sauce
Well, you're not.
- [101:39]
Ian Crossland
You're not a ginger.
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Bobby Sauce
I'm definitely not a ginger.
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Ian Crossland
No, say that.
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Phil
All right. Richard Slammer says, to Phil's point, you want to bring the enemy leaders in or you want to bring the Tokyo Rose or Hanoi Jane, AKA Don Lemon. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think that it would be a bad thing at all to wrap up Don Lemon. And that's, that's not the point that I'm making. But I do think that if you're looking to have an impact on the ground, I think you get the actual activists and you wrap those people up, put them in jail for any laws that they violated, and you're going to have a much larger impact. Whereas if you get Don Lemon, it's going to be satisfying, but it's not going to have an effect on the protesters or, or organizing protests in the future. I was describing it like this. Like Don Lemon, cinnamon is like the, the whipped cream on the sundae. Right. The cherry on top. It's satisfying and great, but the actual wholesome meal that your body needs is the vegetables and the meat and potatoes. Like that's the good thing for you. The ice cream and stuff. It's nice and you like it, but it doesn't actually do anything for you. You know what I mean?
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Ian Crossland
I like how you switch it up mid metaphor and went from whipped cream and cherries to vegetables.
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Phil
Well, yeah, that's the way to go. That's, that's the thing, you know, the, the, the sugary, satisfying thing or the thing that's actually gonna, you know, help repair your body and give you the vitamins and nutrients that you need. So muscle.
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Bobby Sauce
The fact that you think of Don Lemon as a satisfying whipped cream treat. I did not. Is troubling.
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Phil
You're putting words in my mouth and now I'm.
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Bobby Sauce
You walked right into that.
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Phil
I'm slightly offended.
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Bobby Sauce
These are delicious treat.
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Phil
That's not what I meant. That's gross. And we're moving on. J. Dave93 says. Been watching Tim since 20002018 but here's my doomer worry. The Face act changes will fail because it's leftists. However, under Biden, Face act stuck old ladies in prison for abortion clinic sit ins. I mean, that's true, but we work with the tools that we have. Right? I mean I, I love the idea of being like, hey, let's go and, and write new laws and, and actually, you know, do things that are going to be more permanent and, and really fix the, the, the, the problems that we have. But you go to war with the army that you have, not the army that you want. So the conditions in D.C. are as they are. And so you're, you're limited by what the, the, your, your possibilities are Limited. So you work with what you got. I mean, Tate, you might want to jump in on that.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I mean, like, there's no fix everything button and the Trump, like, there's not. I think John Doyle made the joke. There's not like a stream of staffers storming in a. The fix everything button and President Trump refuses to press it. It's like, unfortunately, the system that we live in was set up very well in the sense of it's actually really insulated from any sort of disarray. It's a very rigid system and the left has done a really good job over the last 60, 70 years ensuring that the rigidness is oriented towards the right. So it makes it really difficult for us to achieve our goals. So we're not, not at the point yet where we can just like effectively run the country like a dictator. Like, you have to remember, like a lot of these Trump policies are popular on fairly razor thin margins. And then you have Congress, like Congress is going to be. They're completely ineffective. Like, any win so far in the Trump administration for the most part has been through the executive branch. So it's just like, it's a very tricky situation the Trump administration is in. Like, they are a democratically elected government and that like, again, comes with stipulations, it comes with framework that you have to operate within. So to Phil's point, I mean, they've deemed that this is the most viable possible way to wrap these guys up. You got to work with what you have. Maybe this changes in the next few years. Zoomers. There was a US Gov poll where half of zoomers just said, ignore the Supreme Court. So, you know, things could change quite rapidly. But as it stands right now, yeah, we have the operation. Because you gotta remember, like the Republican Party, the Trump administration is positioning themselves as a legitimate form of government and they're positioning the left wing, the Democrat Party, as these radical insurgents. And that's the correct framing, I would say, because that's how you win elections going forward. Because the American people just aren't ready for like a despot yet.
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Ian Crossland
Remember the rules for radicals, that the action you want is the reaction of your opponent. They want the Trump administration to break the laws, they want them to start going outside of bounds, then they can rally the communists to say, hey, we told you they were dangerous fascists.
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Phil
Yeah, so don't. And to Ian's point, that's why they constantly are basically lying to people. That's why they are telling you that ICE went after a five year old kid that's why they're, they're telling you that Donald Trump broke all these laws. That's why they're telling you that ICE is actually breaking the law because their ICE isn't and the government isn't breaking the law because they, the people in the administration are aware like, I mean, you know, JD Vance and has read Rules for Radicals like the, the people that are in the administration, they're aware of this. And another thing that you have to think of is like half the FBI doesn't like Donald Trump. There's been an exodus of, of leftists and stuff. But there are a lot of people in the administration that still don't like the Donald Trump. They don't like conservatives. They are progressives to the core. Oren was making this point the other night. This is the, the way the government has operated for, you know, God knows how long. I don't want to say a number because someone's going to jump in and say, no, you're wrong, it's been longer. But this is the way that the, the government has operated. So like I said earlier, you go to war with the army that you have and you do the best that you can. We, I would love to be able to say, oh yeah, we, we got rid of all of the progressives in, in D.C. and now it's, it's all staffed with patriots and, and you know, onward. We're just going to fix everything. But that's just not the case.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, the Trump administration has to consolidate power and that does, that does take time because the Phil's point, I mean, you're operating within like a left wing apparatus. And so it's just like again, some of these drastic changes that we want to see happen aren't going to get done in the first year. And I'm not happy. I mean, I want to see like an American. I want Baron to be like the American Caesar. I think that'd be awesome. But like, it takes time to consolidate power. It takes time to stockpile political capital.
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Phil
Takes time for Baron to get to 35 to become the president.
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Tate Brown
Well, we'll work around that. I think.
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Phil
Shane H. Wilder says if you're the praying type, pray for us at the March for life in D.C. tomorrow and for anyone who will be affected by this weekend storms. This weekend storm is looking like it's going to be no joke. So if you're a prayer, you know, pray for everybody at the March for Life. That's a very wonderful way to protest and demonstrate. Abortion is, is in my opinion, abortions you know, probably one of the most wrong things that we do here in the the US I haven't always thought that, but. But I've, you know, since I had a kid. I mean, look, man, when. When your kids six months in, you know, in utero, and you're looking at a. An MRI or a sonogram and you can see a face, you're like, that is a human being, man. That is. There is no question about it. So.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, no. Shout out. Shout out to all the Patriots heading to the march for life. It's like literally one of the most beautiful things that occurs in this country and it happens annually. I regret that I won't be there this year. I'm stuck here in Florida, which is a good thing. It's a blessing to be down here. But. Yeah, you know, bring some jackets, dude. It's gonna be freezing.
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Ian Crossland
So you guys will have a good time.
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Phil
Have you been in the past?
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I've been before. It's pretty crazy.
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Phil
This is gonna be really cold this year, though. Bring some jackets in on the way home. If you can find a shovel, buy it because you're gonna need it on Saturday and Sunday if you're in the area, it's gonna get really weird. I've seen some forecasts looking at like 18 inches and it's.
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Tate Brown
It's gonna be freezing. And also remember, you guys know this. Everyone that's going is optics minded. We're all patriots. But there's going to be people trying to antagonize you. Don't. Don't. Stupid. They're losers. Like, just ignore them. It's. It's fine. March. March for life. You're you. There's so many numbers there. Like, don't even let anything spoil it.
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Ian Crossland
You can even look them in the eyes and think the words healthy and then blink slowly like you do with a cat.
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Tate Brown
As long as you're not near a substation, it should work.
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Phil
If you're the praying type, pray for.
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Ian Crossland
If you ever have an enemy or someone you're afraid of, look at them in the eyes and think words at them.
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Bobby Sauce
And they.
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Ian Crossland
It's like magic.
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Tate Brown
So true. So true.
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Phil
All right. Bespoke 2147 says, no, Phil. We don't want people not of our cultural heritage here anymore. No giving them money for. For legal way. No more legal way for people who abused our generosity for decades. Look, I'm not sure what you think my perspective is on immigration. I'm the guy that says that we should shut down immigration for a decade. Support all illegals Right. So I'm not sure where you got the idea that I had some kind of, like, soft spot for. For illegal aliens here in the United States. I don't. But I do think that whatever means we use or whatever way we can offer to get people to leave, I think it's a good thing, especially when you're dealing with, you know, the amount of money that they're talking about. $2,600 is a small amount of money to get, you know, to the federal government, who just prints it anyways, and they're going to print it for other stuff anyway. So it's a small amount of money to get people to leave. In my opinion, Whether it be $2,600 or Trebuchet, it's all good if you're decreasing the number of illegal aliens in the United States.
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Tate Brown
So, yeah, like, remember, they've quantified that number because they've determined that an ICE operation costs far more than that. So it's like you have. You kind of look at it like, okay, to a degree. What you're trying to do is you're trying to reorient the incentive structure on immigration. And so you want to. You want to reorient the atmosphere around immigration in the America to it being favorable for these people to leave. And if you can incentivize that, it's worthwhile, because, again, it saves us money for having to, like, knock down doors and these sorts of things.
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Phil
And trebuchets. I'm sure that if the government made trebuchets, they would be extremely expensive. Dave, Brick says if we're not getting a tape, brown, holding it down, T shirt or something, what are we even doing here?
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Tate Brown
It's so true. What's going on?
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Phil
You should be petitioning the. The powers that be every day.
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Tate Brown
I may have. I may have the subvert and go around and just sell my own T shirt. It would be a very plain. It would literally just be a white T shirt with black text on it.
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Phil
We got, like, a special shirt or something like that. No, it's got to be you doing this.
- [112:02]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Phil
And in. In between your hands, it says tape brown.
- [112:05]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
Someone was like, a silhouette of your head with your hair.
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Tate Brown
Someone. Someone was WASP checking me the other day. They were saying, there's no way you're of British extraction because you use your hands like an Italian. And what I realized what it is, the reason I talk the way I do, the way I have, like, these hand expressions, is literally because of Donald Trump. Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
Watching him, like, grow.
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Bobby Sauce
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Because I was 14 when he came down the escalator. And I've noticed most other right wing zoomer guys that are my age all sort of conduct themselves the same way. Does Nick if Fuentes, Doyle, like all these guys, they do that because we grew up up like borderline idolizing Donald Trump and so we wanted to be like him. We wanted to be cool and so we started doing that. I don't do that though. That's like I haven't even seen many zoomers do that. That's like a Trump special. That's just not a natural. But like this so by, by consequences, by my hand gestures, by the way I move, I sort of emulate like a 70 year old Italian guy.
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Phil
I'm gonna point out that beach but I am the waspiest guy here by the way. So just want to take that. That little. That little victory I was once you says in keeping with Tim Cash tradition. Here we go. I am in the hospital awaiting the birth of my firstborn daughter. Congratulations. That's what we like to hear babies.
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Tate Brown
Welcome to the world, little patriot. Yep, I've made. I've said it to so many babies but it's so true is we're out of time. Like don't even bother walking just as soon as you can talk. Let's go. Let's go. Time. Get a Twitter account.
- [113:32]
Ian Crossland
Get them.
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Tate Brown
Let's go.
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Phil
Start posting.
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Tate Brown
Start posting. Just get under every Democrat politician. Try to ratio them. I know you probably won't be able to spell for a while while so string together a few like letters and we get the idea. We'll retweet it.
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Phil
You can. You can teach them how to dump it into chat GPT and chat.
- [113:48]
Tate Brown
Get an iPad in front of as soon as humanly possible.
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Phil
It's like the least conservative thing advice I've ever heard.
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Tate Brown
Only the only app installed should be X with tight filters, very limited filters that are only showing them Democrat politicians in the reply option.
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Phil
Excuse me. Rumble and Rumble should be Rumble and Truth Social. There you go.
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Bobby Sauce
No find me. Find me in the comments on Lindsay Graham's ex ex account. I'm sure I'm there. I live there and sh that are. I'm also in his comments.
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Phil
Let's go Patriot Thinker for a life says in deep Rural Michigan in 2020 I received a mail in ballot from Detroit. We should make a aliases on the Democrat website to get one of your own. The Dems just know what to do with that extra vote.
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Tate Brown
I mean look, look okay before we get going let's.
- [114:32]
Ian Crossland
Let's be illegal.
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Tate Brown
We're absolutely not encouraging people to commit crime. You definitely do not want to do whatever you should do to gum up the Democrat system. That would be terrible. Do not do that. We definitely are not advocating for that. Certainly do not do whatever it takes to derail the Democrat apparatus. Totally disavow. We are. We are disavowing. There's not an ounce of sarcasm in my voice whatsoever.
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Phil
The proper thing to do is to call your senator and tell him to pass the SAVE Act. You know, get these. These BS ways of vot fixed. Make sure that you have, you know, voter id so that way people are sure that the people voting are actually who they are. No more mailing ballots out and then going and harvesting them because you never know who actually filled out the ballot. The way to fix. The way to make sure that the. The way to game the system is to not actually game the system. It's to fix the system. So that way it's not game day long.
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Ian Crossland
Make the voting day a holiday yet. Has he done that yet?
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Phil
I don't think so.
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Ian Crossland
He's going to, but he's going to.
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Bobby Sauce
Wait and he's going to do it.
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Phil
The year before it.
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Ian Crossland
See, he should have done it before next year, this year, because this is when the midterms this year is those.
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Bobby Sauce
Midterms or this year.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, should have already done that. But I like that he did for Christmas and New Year.
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Bobby Sauce
Yeah, he'll probably. They'll probably say that that's racist because they're keeping people from going and making money that day or whatever. Like, they'll find a way to spin that on. I'm wearing.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I feel. I feel like we should make it. It should be as inconvenient as possible to vote. Like, the only people that should be voting are the people that really want to.
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Phil
There you go. Like, it always going.
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Bobby Sauce
That's where, like, going there really does require effort. And even me, I'm like, I need to. It's going to take me 10. Even if it's 10 minutes, it's going to be 10 minutes plus 10 minutes plus 10 minutes. And I have to. I have to dedicate some time to it. I have to take off work or I have to dedicate my time. And if that's the difference between you doing it and not, then you really shouldn't be voting.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, totally. I had a buddy who, like, he's really into civics. He got really, really into like CGP gray videos, which if you know those types of people, you know what I'm talking about. And what, what happened was he would put on like his Facebook and it was like his Facebook or Instagram, like, if you are not planning on voting today, I will pick you up at your house and drive you to the voting booth. And I texted him and I was like, if someone literally the things like you said, the thing standing between them voting or not, is like someone else driving them to the polls, they shouldn't be voting because clearly they do not care about like the outcome of the election whatsoever. So let's just not do that because yeah, we don't want low propensity voters, but that's not a good, like, that's not a good thing. We should, we should have people that are engaged and tapped in voting like exclusively.
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Bobby Sauce
Yeah, the mail is like the most outrageous thing ever because, because you'd be willing to do that as a favor to a buddy if they were just like, hey man, would you just fill this out and just. I'll fire, I'll send it for you. Oh yeah. Like you don't even know what it even is. And if you don't care, that is troubling.
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Tate Brown
That's why they're going to push for like voting apps. Like you should be able to vote through an app. And there was like people that were like on the right that were advocating for this for a while. I'm like, that was. That will get the Republicans get blown out if you do like app based voting.
- [117:30]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
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Phil
So there has to be some kind of commitment involved.
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Ian Crossland
Maybe, maybe he won't make it a holiday then. Thanks. Okay.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I actually don't think you should. No, yeah, I think, I think it should be like as inconvenient as possible.
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Phil
LG Bales says when are the asylums that Trump promised going to open up? There are a bunch of people that need grippy sock vacations also. Can we start pushing these politicians spreading fake news propaganda? Can we start punishing these politicians spreading fake news propaganda? You probably can't punish the politicians pushing fake news propaganda. And as for the asylums, look, historically silent asylums have been state run. So just because Donald Trump says we're going to do this doesn't mean that it's going to happen.
- [118:14]
Tate Brown
Reopen the rubber Ramadas.
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Phil
Yeah, you know, I mean, look, I personally think that we should be. There should be laws that allow people to, to be committed involuntarily if they're, if they're a danger to society or to themselves. It's too easy for the mentally ill to roam the streets and terrorize people. You go to any big city and you see that there's been plenty of high profile murders and attacks because of mentally ill people. And I think that getting those people off the street would be great for society. But I don't think that it's going to end up being a federal thing.
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Tate Brown
And it's crazy because there's laws on the book. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but it' New York City, like, has laws. Or if you've slept on the street for like a certain amount of continuous days, they, the police can just commit you. They can pick you up and commit you. But these things are just like, rarely enforced. They're deep in these city codes. But, like, that's just common, common sense. Like, if someone's still in the street after a few days, that indicates that something's wrong. Because, like, typically the average stint for a homeless person is only like a day or two. These are people that are like hardened. Like, they're, they're grizzled, they're ready for the street and they're, it's helpful for them. Like, we don't want these, we don't enable that behavior. Like, it's bad for them. We want these people to get help. So, yeah, it's like the most benevolent thing you can do as far as.
- [119:27]
Bobby Sauce
The punishing the politicians that post fake news. I would say that a more fruitful use of your time would be to call out your own politicians that represent you and advocate for the policies that are the reason why you elected them in the first place and spend more of your time focusing on them. Because I feel like there's so many of them on the right that don't do the things that we put them in there for or don't talk about the things that are important to us. And it's like they need us. The left doesn't need us at all. You could yell at, you could yell at, you know, at Gavin Newsome or whoever else a million times, but they don't, you don't matter to them. Whereas, like, in order for a Lindsey Graham or a Thomas Massie or a Ted Cruz or whoever it is, the only one I like out of that three is Thomas Massey. But in order for them to get reelected, you need to be talking to them about the things that matter so that they understand that this is something that they need to, to do in order to get your vote again. So I just think that's a more productive use of your time.
- [120:23]
Tate Brown
That's true. Yeah.
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Phil
Rusty Man3625 says Phil, life is stressful for me for right now, but looking forward to your concert in May is something that keeps me going. I love to hear it. Thank you very much. You're a patriot and a scholar. All that Remains is going to be on tour from April 29th until May 23rd. We're going out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes. So go to all that remainsonline.com to get your tickets. That's a little early. Plug. Says greetings from Australia. Working warranty and being able to listen to you guys makes my day a lot less jury. That's great. Isn't it summertime down there, though? I mean, I can't imagine Australia being dreary in the summertime because you got.
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Ian Crossland
A king shout out.
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Tate Brown
You're a free man.
- [121:13]
Ian Crossland
Freedom. I would scream it if I was outside. Outside right now. But we're on a microphone.
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Phil
You are so focused on that.
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Ian Crossland
I'm gonna scream it.
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Phil
No.
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Bobby Sauce
Freedom.
- [121:21]
Tate Brown
So true.
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Ian Crossland
Loud, though.
- [121:24]
Tate Brown
William Wallace moment.
- [121:25]
Ian Crossland
Let me do it again. Let me do it again.
- [121:27]
Tate Brown
Do it again. From the top. Freedom. Freedom.
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Bobby Sauce
Nice one.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. Come on, guys. Panel.
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Bobby Sauce
I'm okay.
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Phil
No, no.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, Serge, give us the freedom. Come on, It's Thursday. It's Freedom Thursday. It's Freedom Thursday.
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Bobby Sauce
Really great.
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Tate Brown
Let's get avant garde. Jerry Seinfeld yelling, freedom.
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Sponsor Voice
Freedom.
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Phil
Freedom.
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Tate Brown
Freedom. Freedom.
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Phil
Freedom.
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Ian Crossland
Woohoo.
- [121:55]
Phil
All right, smash the like button. Share the show with your friends. Share the show with everyone you know. Thank you very much for coming. Why don't you go ahead and tell everyone where they can find you?
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Bobby Sauce
I'm Bobby Sauce. You can follow me on any social media, take naps or go to Follow Bobby Dash.
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Ian Crossland
I really like that name, dude. I know it's always awkward coming over to me at the. Hey, follow me at Take Naps is.
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Bobby Sauce
What I'm talking about.
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Ian Crossland
Take Naps is a great code at Ian Crossland. Hit me up on Twitter. YouTube and Instagram is where you'll find me. And check out Graphene Movie. Check out the trailer for this new movie I'm producing. It's going to be really, really interesting. The trailer's up. Sign up for the mailing list at Graphine Movie and I'll see you there.
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Tate Brown
X and Instagram at Realtime. Tate Brown, make sure you're following me on X. I've been receiving reports from loyal patriots. They didn't even realize they weren't following me. This is happening a lot. It's alarming. So make sure you go to my Twitter right now. And make sure you're following. It's a huge epidemic. I don't know what's going on. I think there's some foreign powers involved, if you ask me. So we'll investigate that. Maybe some sort of, like, senate committee will get onto this of why people aren't following. Go check it out, Phil.
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Phil
Yeah, you can follow me on Twix. I am Phil. That Remains. The band is all that Remains. You can check out all that Remains on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, you, YouTube and Deezer. Stick around for the rumble after show. And don't forget, the left lane is for crime.