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Biden Plans Blanket PARDON FOR FAUCI And Others In Fear Of Trump Admin w/Decoy Voice
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Biden Plans Blanket PARDON FOR FAUCI And Others In Fear Of Trump Admin w/Decoy Voice
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Tim Pool
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Decoy Voice
What's going on? I'm Decoy Voice I run a small channel on YouTube where I cover crime, culture and politics with concise light order commentary on the tragic status that is today's reality. And I'm very excited to be here. So I'm glad you guys are. Got me on.
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Tim Pool
I'm always really excited when we have youtubers on because they know the rules. And I'm like, this is what YouTube bans you for and this is what they don't. They're like, oh, no, we know. I'm like, okay, great. Because Ian's here and I'm always worried.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah.
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Decoy Voice
Hey, guys.
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Ian Crossland
Good to see you again. I'm Ian Crosslin. I'm back. I cast Magic for a living and I want to give a special shout out to Grofty. Dude, you should see Phil's face right now. I saw him do a take when I said that.
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Tim Pool
I want to shout out.
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Ian Crossland
Grofty is in the chat. Everyone loves grafty. So if you don't know him, you know him. Now send grafty some love. What's up, dude? Good to see you, man. Phil Labonte.
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Phil Labonte
Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary and I don't know grafty. Let's go.
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Tim Pool
Here's the story from Politico and I love it. They use it. This little picture of Joe Biden giving what looks like a wink wink. It says Biden White House is discussing preemptive pardons for those in Trump's crosshairs. Uh huh. The nomination of Cash Patel, who has vowed to pursue Trump's critics as FBI director, has heightened concerns within the president's inner circle. They say Biden's aides are deeply concerned about a range of current and former officials who could find themselves facing inquiries and even indictments. A sense of alarm which has only accelerated since Trump's last weekend announcement. Last weekend announced the appointment of Cash Patel based to lead the FBI. Patel has publicly vowed to pursue Trump's critics. Yes, but not because they're his critics. He's going to pursue them for being criminals. And it just so happens that criminals don't want to be held accountable. So they criticize the person who wants to hold them accountable. You see how that works, Politico? They go on to add that White House officials are carefully weighing the extraordinary step of handing out blanket pardons to those who've committed no crimes. I love this. Okay. I just want to stress this. Who've committed no crimes, they say. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like now to give you an example of why you watch this show and why we hate, hate the corporate press and the fake news. The corporate media. They go on to say those who could face exposure included such members of Congress January 6th Committee as Senator Elect Adam Schiff. They sat up Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming. Former Rep. Trump had previously said Cheney should go to jail along with the rest of the Unselect committee. Also mentioned by Biden's aides for a pardon is Anthony Fauci, the former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease who became a lightning rod for criticism from the right during the COVID pandemic. Now let me just stress this as it says, who've committed no crimes. I want to say it again. Politico says, who've committed no crimes. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Newsweek.com on their X account from September 9, 2021. Newly released grant proposals indicate the National Institutes of Health funded controversial gain of function research, appearing to contradict what Dr. Anthony Fauci had said previously. Then we have the actual article and the headline is, Fauci was untruthful to Congress about Wuhan lab research. New documents appear to show. Let me make sure it's really easy for y'all to understand. And I'm not talking about the audience, the core audience, because I love and respect you guys. I'm talking about the corporate press, the Democrats, and the people who seem to just believe all of those lies. I'll make it simple for you guys from gosard@house.gov Dr. Foushee testified under oath before the United States Senate that the National Institute of Health had not funded gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Yet a report by Project veritas proves that Dr. Fauci did in fact fund research in Wuhan, China and several sites across the United States. Quote, Dr. Anthony Foushee has repeatedly lied to Congress and the American people throughout the entire COVID 19 pandemic. Let me then just jump back to Newsweek. Foushee was untruthful to Congress about Wuhan lab research. Can I throw it to the panel here? What is it called when you're under oath and you lie?
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Ian Crossland
Perjury.
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Tim Pool
And is that a criminal offense?
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Ian Crossland
Yes.
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Tim Pool
So that would mean that Fauci did in fact commit a crime.
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Ian Crossland
The Newsweek, they say it appears to show this. They haven't. Sounds like the Newsweek article hasn't confirmed.
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Tim Pool
No, no, no. Newsweek. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Ian, Read the headline that Fauci was.
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Ian Crossland
Untruthful to Congress about Wuhan lab research. New documents appear to show.
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Tim Pool
Uh huh. And now I'll give him, I'll give them that, let's prove it in a court of law. Fine. And that's where they're going. But I will state definitively as it is stated by a member of Congress as a statement of fact, Foushee lied under oath.
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Phil Labonte
There's also a Congressional Register. Like everything that's said when they're in hearings, it's all written down and it goes into the, into the Congressional Register. So he did actually say these things. There's no question about it. He has to be found, obviously he has to be brought before a judge and jury to be officially guilty. But there's no question about whether or not he said false statements. Those things are. He actually did it. They're in the Congressional Register.
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Tim Pool
It was so egregious that Seamus and I actually ad libbed this comedy bit that he has on US Freedom Tunes channel where we were talking about, it's this viral video where Rand Paul is saying, Dr. Fauci, did you fund gain of function research? And he's like, we did not fund gain of function research. And then Rand Paul's like, I have here a document from the NIH with your name on it saying gain of function research. Like, nope. It was a viral moment. Everybody saw happen and nothing came of it.
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Ian Crossland
It basically was like they asked him, did you do gain of function? And he said, no, we did all the things we function gained it. Like, Ian, are you sitting on a chair? No, I'm sitting on wood and plastic with wheels and leather.
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Tim Pool
Exactly.
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Ian Crossland
Which is when saying no is the lie. Basically he could have said if he didn't say no, if he just said we did this. And he rephrased it and refused to answer. But if he actually said to, it's him.
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Tim Pool
No, it's the Patrick Star meme where the I don't know the guy's name is. The character is like holding the picture and he's like, he's like, so this is you, Dr. Fauci? Yes. And you run NIH? Yes. And you signed this document? I did. And this document says supporting gain of function research. Yes. And it with submission, this got the funding transferred to NIH and Ecoth alliance for gain of function research at the one lab. Yes. So you funded gain of function research? No.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah. One other way that they were trying to weasel out of it was by saying that the NIH didn't fund the research. They Funded. And then his point was, no. We funded a company called Ecohealth alliance that funded the gain of function for us. Or they. They didn't go as far as, say, for us, we funded a company that funded gain of function. So technically, we didn't fund gain of function. It's like me giving you five bucks to give someone, Phil. Or obviously they didn't acknowledge that they gave it to him to give to the person.
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Tim Pool
It's like, when I was younger, you'd go to these keggers, and then you'd walk in and you'd be like, where's the beer? Whoa, whoa, whoa. We don't sell beer here. We sell cops. Beer is free. It's like, dude, cops aren't going to fall for that. It's stupid.
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Decoy Voice
Yeah, well, this is essentially what Newsweek is doing right now, too, where they. They know he lied about it. They know that it's in, like, the Congressional Record, but they're saying he may have said this thing, reports show. So they're admitting it without admitting it.
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Ian Crossland
Also, I think he was like a lap dog for the administration. So they're wanting. They want to get him off the hook. The administration's like, we're not going to. We're not going to let you suffer for what we made you do on the stand.
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Phil Labonte
I. I'm not so sure that. That he was made to do anything like he is. He was in. In a position of authority, right? Like, he wasn't. There wasn't people higher than Fauci saying, Fauci do this. He was in a position to. He was. He's what you call a shot caller. He was saying, we need to do this. We should do this. He was telling other people to do this. He was securing funding. He was. He was not. He was not a victim. He was not, you know, he was not there, you know, doing some. Some. Some work for other people. He was in charge. Like, the buck stops somewhere, and it stops with Dr. Fauci when it comes to the NIH.
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Decoy Voice
He called himself the science for a long period of time.
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Tim Pool
I am the science.
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Phil Labonte
It's not. He's not a patsy. And the way that. The way that you're framing it is like, you know, some other people were doing. No, no, the buck stops with him. He was the guy. He was the shot.
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Ian Crossland
My assumption is the executive branch made him do that stuff. But you think he know that stuff.
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Phil Labonte
Doesn'T go to the. Not that the president. Not that the president couldn't know, but things like everything doesn't go to the President. Right. That's why you have administrations, that's why you have the Director of the nih, that's why you have the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State. There are big things that are decided by the presidents that says, okay, this is the policy of the administration. This is the policy that we want. And then it's delegated down to the DNI, to your DoD, your people in charge of the DoD, you know, the people at State, the people at, you know, hud. All of these cabinets exist, so that way the President doesn't have to be involved in the day to day operations of every single administration, all of the, all of the different bureaucracies. So when you're dealing with cat, that's why cabinet level administration matters. Like who is in charge of the. That's why it matters that Kennedy is going to be, you know, is nominated to be in charge of the Health and human services. Because he's the shot caller now. He's the guy that's saying, this is what we're gonna do. He will discuss with the president, say, this is what the policy's gonna be. The president says, this is what we wanna do. And then he's gonna say, okay, cool, I will go and execute it. And then how it gets executed is largely up to whoever's in charge of the particular bureaucracy.
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Tim Pool
One of the big challenges too, for Trump in his first term was he trusted the experts. They'd go in him and say, look, Trump's sitting there thinking, look, I've got to negotiate this deal pertaining to the Red Sea and this trade route. I don't know what's going on with that health stuff. That's not my area. And the expert says, I'm gonna do X, Y and Z, A, B and C. He was, okay, go, go get it anyway, guys, what were you saying? And then Fauci ends up basically in charge of these things because Trump just said, sure. And it wasn't just Fauci, it was Burks as well.
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Phil Labonte
Mm.
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Decoy Voice
Because I can't say it's all like executive branch fault because remember, Fauci's Trump's guy and he kind of just let him do whatever he wanted, even though he disagreed with it publicly.
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Tim Pool
So Trump made the. Made a very big mistake of thinking that he could be president. When he, when he ran, they accused him of being a traitor. And he thought, once I win, I'm gonna go in and say, okay, guys, look, I'm the President now. And the deep state had other intentions. They said, no, you don't you don't understand how this works. Trump thought he was gonna play ball. He was gonna bring in some of these cabinet picks for some of the uniparty establishment. But he was not the player they wanted, so they sought to destroy him. This time around, it seems to be quite the opposite. When that Chad Chronister guy DEA had nomination, and then everyone points out, yeah, he locked up a pastor during COVID lockdowns, We won't stand for it. Trump stated earlier today that he personally removed him, saying, you're done, get out.
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Decoy Voice
I like that a lot.
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Tim Pool
Yeah, very based. Trump has learned he's got no tolerance for the shenanigans.
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Phil Labonte
I think that that's a big part of why the so many of the people that have been flouted for nomination or brought up for nomination, why there's so much pushback. Because these people are a threat to the established order. Right? Like RFK at hud, Health and. Or, I'm sorry, not hud had Health and Human Services. That's going to make a big difference, right? If you get Tulsi Gabbard as the dni, that's going to make a big difference in the way that the US Looks at intelligence gathering and looks at who is going to be scrutinized by the intelligence services. You know, if you get Cash Patel, if you do get Cash Patel in at the FBI, the way that the FBI behaves is going to be significantly different. And I mean, I don't know, I don't have any kind of information or any inside information, but I imagine that these people, if they do get their job, there will be significant changes in the upper management of these bureaucracies, because there are people in the bureaucracies that are going to work against the desires of the administration. That's what Peter Stroke was doing at the FBI. He, and I forget the woman's name. That was his cohort or whatever, but he was actively working against the President, actively working against what the President had stated he wanted. So you have to do more than just change the people that are the heads of the agencies. You have to get people that are the heads of these bureaucracies, the Cabinet, you know, cabinet level, the people that are the. That are, you know, Secretary of State or whatever. You have to get people that are willing to go in there and get rid of the people that are going to inhibit the job that the President wants done. The President, as the President, he has the authority to say, this is how we are going to execute the daily business of this country.
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Tim Pool
Right?
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Phil Labonte
The Executive is supposed to execute the laws that are passed by Congress. As the executive, he gets discretion as to say, this is how we're going to do it and these are the things that we're going to focus on. So he needs to have a cabinet that is aligned with his desires and is also empowered to fire people or at least remove the, remove people that are going to inhibit the administration's, you know, stated desires. And that's the reason that the President got elected is because the American people want that, right? So your Congress people are supposed to pass laws that reflect the desires of the different jurisdictions. So your Congressperson is supposed to be the person that's going to go ahead and pass laws for, you know, that are going to represent the, or they're going to vote in ways that represent your, you know, your, your area or whatever. But the President, by being elected by the whole country, you know, ostensibly he's supposed to execute the desires of the American people when it comes to the way that the administration operates. And, and you need to have people in these positions at, you know, at State, at, at hud, at, at hhs, at, you know, dot, at all these cabinet level bureaucracies. You have to have people that are going to actually do the things that the President wants.
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Tim Pool
Let's, let's, let's jump to this story. This is a wild story. Gunman at large after United Healthcare CEO fatally shot and brazen targeted attack Police say. The first thing I want to say on this is it's, it's tragic, man. I don't know anything about this guy. Any story of death. I don't care who it is. I, These things are awful. War is bad. Even when bad guys die, I'm unhappy, okay? But you know, look, we here in this country, you know, there are people who like to joke online about righteous retribution and the death penalty and all that stuff. And I think, okay, fine, I understand your anger when it comes to war, terror, conflict, crisis, evil people, but we should always look at death as a bad thing. And the reason I say that is we're going to get into the story and everything, but the first thing I want to point out is that you've got liberals and leftists all across blue sky and on X cheering for and advocating for more of this under the idea that the CEO himself is responsible for the death of people. And what really pisses me off is they're communists. Their worldview is if I get sick and you don't help me, it's your fault. And I'm like, Dude, if you get sick, I understand. Like if you pay for something and don't get it, you're being ripped off. But you getting sick at the fault of some business guy. There's institutions at play. So let me, let me read the story for you. And they're going to break down. What, what's, what's hot here is you've got Taylor Lorenz. I mean, she's plum lost her mind advocating for more murder on Blue Sky. Crazy. CNN says United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot and killed in midtown Manhattan Wednesday morning in a brazen targeted attack as he walked toward the hotel hosting the company's annual investor conference. Shortly before 7am A gunman masked in the freezing temperatures was lying in wait before opening fire on Thompson outside the Hilton Midtown. According to NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch, many people passed the suspect, but he appeared to wait for his intended target. I want to be clear at this time every indication that is that this was a premeditated, pre planned targeted attack. So the video in question. This is crazy. They have the video. I'm not going to play it, okay? Because it actually shows like I die. We're not going to do that. CNN's got it. You can watch it there. But the gunman's wearing a hood, a mask, a gray backpack, and he walks up with a suppressed pistol. I'm sure people who are watching it can identify what it is. Fires chambers around. Fires chambers around. And at first it was interesting because I'm not, I'm not an expert on guns. You don't have to. The chat can correct me on this one. They said that the news reported the gun jammed and he kept having to clear it. Bunch of other people I see who were gun people on X were saying that's not the case. It's that he's using subsonic rounds to reduce noise, which don't have the power to pull the hammer back and chamber around. So he's manually doing it. It's intentional because he's a hitman. So the speculation right now is one of two things. The October 15th deadline has passed. Are you prepared for what's coming? Do you owe back taxes? Are your tax returns still unfiled? Missed the deadline to file for an extension. Now that October 15th is behind us, the IRS may be ramping up enforcement. You could face wage garnishments, frozen bank accounts, or even property seizures if you haven't taken action yet. But there's still hope. 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Tommyjohn.com Spotify right now and save 30% sitewide. Tommyjohn.com Spotify see site for details. Big CEO there was some scandal pertaining to a ransomware hack. They lost like $1 billion in this ransomware thing. Some people think it's related to that. And a hitman got called and they he made a move on this guy. Others think it may be related to any one of the millions of people who feel wronged by a loved one who was not given their proper medical treatment coverage and may have gotten ill or died or become crippled. So a lot of people are saying, I bet it was a dad whose daughter got sick and they denied coverage and then he got revenge. And I'm like, dude, this is a professional.
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Phil Labonte
Well, the, the actual, like what you're saying about the way that the guy operated the firearm and stuff, it is likely that it was, if I understand correctly, the police report said that there were nine millimeter casings and a couple of nine millimeter rounds. So that would lead me to believe that they were, that they were undercharged. So subsonic. So you would have to rack it because it wouldn't have enough energy to actually work the action. The guy looks like he knows what he's doing, whether or not he's actually been in, you know, whether he's a professional hitman or just a guy that's familiar with firearms, I can't say. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't make the assumption either way. But he definitely knows what he's doing. He's definitely very familiar with firearms. He knows a lot of people are.
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Tim Pool
Saying subsonic rounds don't have the power to cycle that kind of weapon. That's why I have heard people say that the right suppressor could do it. But, you know, I don't know. But the thing is, at any rate, he had a bike, like across the street. So it was all perfectly premeditated and there's still a manhunt underway. So that's why I think it's important to, you know, discuss the story, especially because if you're in New York, however, very clearly, I think it was a hit. I'm seeing a lot of comments where they're like, dude, this guy's in Colombia already.
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Phil Labonte
Well, I mean, his bike, he changed.
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Tim Pool
His clothes from the backpack, hopped in. His buddy was waiting around the corner. He got in a nondescript white sedan. They drove to probably. What's that?
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Phil Labonte
Wait, did they say that he got into his sedan?
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Tim Pool
No, no, no. I'm saying this is what people are assuming. Well, they know.
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Decoy Voice
Sorry. No, they know he got on a city bike and someone that was just scraping the data constantly was able to track where he went. Somewhere where there's no cameras.
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Phil Labonte
And I think. I thought it was Central Park.
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Tim Pool
We actually, we actually. I believe we have the tweet in question. So this guy, he's got me blocked, by the way. He says, I'm fairly confident of where the United Healthcare assassin escapes to. He escaped on an electric city bike, according to police. I happen to continuously scrape city by data every minute so I can see where the individual bikes go. The only northbound city bike. He says the only northbound city bike to leave within 10 minutes of the shooting from any dock near the hotel went to Madison Avenue and 82nd Street. And then he mentions the bike number and you can see that's where the assassination took place. It's right there. And then it rode up north. I don't know what he get a train station or whatever. He goes on to point out more details. Here. Here's what's wild about it. Okay, so we get it. We get it. The responses from the left are advocating for this man's death because this guy said, police, hey, look, I found evidence that may lead you to this murderer. Leftists on X are calling him a snitch, threatening him with violence. Take a look at this. Natalie F. Danilician on X says Blue sky is allowing threats of violence on its platform from none other than Taylor Lorenz. So a big story broke where Blue Cross Blue Shield will no longer cover anesthesia for the full length of certain surgeries in Connecticut. And she responded by posting the CEO of Blue Cross. Now you may say, oh, well, maybe she wants to protest. No, she said, and people wonder why we want these executives dead. She actually said that. This is insane. This is what we have been fighting against for a decade. When we say the woke people are nuts, they're violent and they're dangerous. It's people like that. They should not be tolerated.
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Phil Labonte
Well, I think that it's going to be tolerated on Blue Sky.
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Tim Pool
No, no, I'm saying, like, I agree, but I mean, like, politically, we voted to shut this stuff down. We voted for Donald Trump to bring accountability, to say we're not going to tolerate a fringe, far left extremist element in these spaces anymore. Now, to a certain degree, you have your free speech, but when you cross over into advocating for, I should say, being careful here, if you are directing or party to planning to commit harm and advocating for these things, there are varying degrees of repercussions that I believe you should face.
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Phil Labonte
I mean, look, man, I think that the law is a valuable tool that we have in these United States and I do believe that what Taylor is doing there could be construed as illegal. So I wouldn't have a problem if the police gave a, gave a visit to Ms. Taylor Lorenz or for advocating harm to someone.
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Ian Crossland
I saying that this is why I wish someone was dead is very different than advocating for someone, unfortunately, in this.
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Phil Labonte
Instance, putting up her face.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, I mean, it's legal.
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Tim Pool
No, no, no.
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Phil Labonte
But I didn't.
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Tim Pool
So, so here's, here's the issue. She said she has a third post where she said people have very justified hatred towards these CEOs. I'm not going to read everything she said. She's nuts. She then says that she personally wants them dead and then posts the image. So. No, no, no, no, hold on. I'm not saying she'd go to jail for it, but I'm saying there is a degree of repercussion you could face where it's like, I'm okay with banning people from social platforms who are doing things like this. Granted, she's on Blue Sky. Blue sky will ban you for using the wrong pronouns, but they're going to allow her to do these things. That's nuts to me.
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Phil Labonte
Taylor literally just yesterday banned me because I said she's, she's a national treasure. She's a treasure. She, she blocked me because I took a post that she said on Blue sky and I put it up and I was like, she's hilarious or something like that. Something, Something innocuous and she blocked me. But then the. The crazy woman goes and starts alluding to, you know, positive messages about harm to other people. She said she's a horrible person.
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Decoy Voice
I honestly, horrible person. This is just her trying to be like a shock jock now where she's kind of skidding out of relevance and knows that she wants to dis. Tread the line of, you know, the First Amendment as much as she possibly can. Just so we talk about her. She goes to the front of Blue sky. People know about that.
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Phil Labonte
Don't you think that she believes it though? Don't you think? I. Because my sense is that she's actually a leftist. And leftists believe that people that make too much money are evil. Like, that's not. There's no. Like, there's not a lot of debate about that. If you're dealing with the far left, they believe that you are a bad person for making too much money.
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Decoy Voice
And I don't follow her too much. But isn't she the person that got like, she docked the other girl and then got very, very upset? People were coming, has the infamous crying. That's her right.
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Phil Labonte
She has done similar things to that. Yeah.
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Decoy Voice
So then I kind of feel like this would be the perfect thing. I'm not saying she's playing 5D chess necessarily, but what if she's out there just saying, let me say these astronomically insane things that are just terrible to her fellow human. Then later on it's like, oh my God, when everybody calls me out, I'm the victim here. And it's just this new cycle that she gets where she becomes relevant again, producing absolutely nothing for again.
- [30:14]
Phil Labonte
I can't. I can't see. See inside of her heart. I can't. I don't know what she. What she intends, but it's my belief by reading past things that she said and knowing the left, that at the very least she does think that rich people are bad. Like you are. You are morally wrong. If you make too much money, if you accept a position that that makes do. Makes too much money. That's a very common perspective on the far left. Very. I mean, it's the whole reason for the communist rev. For communist revolutions all over the world. And those are as bloody as you can get. Right. The reason that communist revolutions happen is they believe that the bourgeoisie have stolen from the proletariat by having all the money that they have. And I don't ascribe to that worldview at all. I believe that the pie grows and some people get outsized portions of it. But when the whole pie grows, everyone benefits. So the more successful an economy is, the more benefits everyone that lives in that economy will enjoy. People that are on the left tend to believe that the pie is static. It doesn't get bigger. So the larger portions that other people are taking, the less fortunate have to scrape by on. And if that were the case, which, again, I don't agree with it, if that were the case, then it is actually reasonable to say those people are evil. But that's. I think that that's not the case. And I. But I do believe that Taylor believes that. That she believes that it's okay to. To look at people that have. That have a lot and say, you've gotten that by taking from someone else.
- [31:53]
Tim Pool
So this. I'm gonna give a shout out to Landman. That new Tyler Sheridan show, You guys got to watch it because it's great. I mean, Yellowstone was awesome, and it sucks. Costner left, because now the show is basically falling apart. They're just killing everybody. I'm not gonna watch it. But Landman's got Billy Bob, and Billy Bob's great. I don't know about his politics or whatever, but the show's good. And there's this viral scene where he's talking to this presumably liberal woman, and they're looking at wind turbines. And he's like, you know how much oil it takes to make this effing thing? He's like, from all the diesel to haul it out here to 12ft of concrete in the ground. And how much oil got to lubricate it? That thing won't offset its carbon footprint. He explains that they set up wind turbines to power the oil pumps. And she's like, they're using green energy to pump oil. And he's like, no, they're using alternative energy because there's no lines out here and they need electricity from somewhere. The reason I bring that up, the average person believes complete and utter bs and we all know it. That's why we rag on the fake news all the time. So what's disconcerting to me is, I'll tell you, I don't know a lot about this guy. What I see with this guy, though. And the response from the left is they don't know what the they're talking about. So they see a CEO and they blame him personally for why they got denied or what happened. For all we know, this guy recently got promoted a few years ago, and he was like, it's my dream to fix these stupid insurance companies are screwing people Over. For all they know, this guy's in that company, banging his fist on the table, being like, stop denying these people. And they're like, you don't have the power. I'm gonna be CEO. Mark my words. You have no idea. I doubt it. But there's a great scene also. Shout out Game of Thrones, which kind of.
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Decoy Voice
Oof.
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Tim Pool
They went off the rails there, where Daenerys Targaryen takes over a city of slavers, strings up all the oppressors, and then some guy comes in and says, my dad was fighting to end slavery and you killed him. That's what worries me when these people are violent, dangerous lunatics and they target random people. This is why we have courts. Because the founding fathers were like, yo, we don't want mob justice because the mob is wrong. So you got to prove it to a jury of peer to of your peers and to the public why someone did something wrong. So I see this. Look, I get it. I talk about how the insurance companies are bringing us off, how I got ripped off, and it was this weird scenario where the bill was super high. You get it, you get it. But the idea that the left would celebrate mob murder is terrifying.
- [34:10]
Ian Crossland
I'm with you, dude. I think I'm very concerned with for profit medicine and giant corporations taking control, corporate accuracy, but this ain't it. I want to believe that this guy did some behind the scenes malfeasance and this was a personal hit on this guy, that he messed up somebody's money and now he paid for it. As opposed to some angry father hiring a hitman or going rogue. I mean, honestly, it doesn't matter either way, but it's.
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Tim Pool
Where are you headed with it? What do you think? Mad dad?
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Decoy Voice
No, I think it's a professional thing. Just the way they had the city bike waiting for him. The police can't figure them out when, like, there isn't there cameras all around New York City. And then you have the. What is it? The. It's a gun free zone, guys. How come they didn't say?
- [34:55]
Phil Labonte
Not only that, but the suppressors are illegal in the state of New York.
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Ian Crossland
So you're saying that hitman broke the law?
- [35:02]
Phil Labonte
Broken the law.
- [35:03]
Tim Pool
Well, surprised, because New York's.
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Ian Crossland
You're supposed to have guns in New York.
- [35:06]
Tim Pool
Yeah, I thought what happens is as soon as you. As soon as you drive across the bridge and you get to that barrier of where New York starts, the gun just freezes in midair. And it can't. And it's like up against the barrier and you can't get in with it.
- [35:15]
Decoy Voice
Like a Harry Potter spell gun free zone. You can't bring it in there.
- [35:19]
Phil Labonte
Very close to magic.
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Decoy Voice
Did you hear the story about how whoever is doing the trading for Pelosi, they had heavily invested in the company that is there to protect them from like cybersecurity threats?
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Ian Crossland
No. What's that story now?
- [35:31]
Decoy Voice
I got to pull it up.
- [35:32]
Tim Pool
Then you say the guy with the ransomware side of this or what?
- [35:36]
Decoy Voice
Yeah. Where the company that's going to protect them from the next attack got a huge investment from Pelosi or company.
- [35:43]
Tim Pool
Oh.
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Decoy Voice
Which I mean, I don't know what that is inferring at all, but I mean it's an interesting aspect.
- [35:49]
Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean, I don't know that, that, that. I'm not sure that that would speak to this and you know, or would have have a, you know, context that makes it related to this. But I, and I don't, I mean I personally don't want to talk about motive or anything like that until there's more information that comes out. But if the guy, you know, if homeboy split and he's in, you know, Cartagena now, you know, it's not.
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Tim Pool
It's some South American city.
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Phil Labonte
Right. You know, I mean there's. Then there, there might not be much more information that we ever get. You know, I guess really comes down.
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Decoy Voice
To if they catch him.
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Phil Labonte
Exactly.
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Decoy Voice
He's a super pro when he's gone into Columbia or something.
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Tim Pool
Let's. Let's jump to this next story from Sportskeeda. Three major firms, JP Morgan AT&T and Duncan. Wow. Reportedly stopped Twitch ads due to allegations of anti Semitism. But you know, this is the Twitch adpocalypse getting worse. All these leftists that are on Twitch are losing massive sums of money. But for those that missed the previous. I mean, I just want to shout this out as well when you go on Blue sky or X right now after the assassination of this healthcare CEO and you see all these leftists cheering for it. Yeah. That's why big brands don't want to advertise because nobody wants to put their toothpaste next to a guy advocating for murder. Sorry, it's not going to happen. Here's the story. They say American multinational JP Morgan Chase & Co. Telecommunication giant AT&T& Dunkin Donuts parent company Dunkin Brands have reportedly stopped rolling advertisements on Twitch. This moves come. This move comes following allegations of anti Semitism being levied against the Purple Platform over the past few months. Further, a fourth firm, Chevron Corp. Is also reportedly considering terminating future sponsorships for Twitch's signature Twitch convention after a controversial panel involving Twitch content creator Frogan took place at this year's event in San Diego with the petroleum company's name and logo in the background. Oh, why? What did he. What did he do?
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Phil Labonte
So Frogan was on a panel, and they were. They were saying that they. They were listing streamers as either Halal for good or Sabra for bad. And Sabra is. Is. I guess it's a. An act. A. Yeah, but. But it was. It. I guess it's. It's kosher or it's made. It's Israeli. That it's a company, I believe. So it's good.
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Tim Pool
They got the roasted red pepper ones.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah. And. But the point was, if you're Sabra, you're a bad person. If you're. If you're, you know, Halal, you're a good one.
- [38:16]
Tim Pool
And that was.
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Phil Labonte
It was Jewish. Yeah, it was. So, yeah. I mean, is she.
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Tim Pool
Dude, they've been doing this stuff for like a decade, and we've been complaining about how the woke are hypocrites and they're racist and they're sexist and all the things they claim that everybody else is. And now. Now the companies are like, oh, well.
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Phil Labonte
I mean, not only is it like there's Frogging, but there's also. Currently Destiny's fans are going after Hasan and they're reporting him for anti Semitism. So between Destiny, his. Whatever you want to call his people just constantly mass reporting Hassan for. For anti Semitism, it's finally broken through, or it seems that it's finally brought broken through to, you know, the. The advertisers and stuff. And I mean, look, Hasan is anti anti Semitic, you know, like, I'm not gonna defend Hassan. I'm not one for mass brigading people and. And. And stuff like that, especially when, you know, the people that are doing it is Destiny who's kind of a piece of garbage as well. So, I mean, this. The things that he said about MAGA supporters or, you know, the Trump supporters and stuff. He's. He's, you know, lambasted all conservatives. He's made personal attacks at Tim, so he's garbage too. So I kind of hope they kill each, you know, not, I mean, like, injure each other's streams badly. And I'm not. I don't want to say the wrong thing, but.
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Tim Pool
You mean, like, cause political damage to each other?
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Phil Labonte
Exactly. You know, I hope they. I hope they do a bunch of damage to Each other. But it is because of, you know, that kind of stuff that, like that, that anti Semitism that, you know, Hasan engages in regularly. And Frogan's worse than Hasan, which is hilarious.
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Decoy Voice
But they've been doing it for years and no one seemed to care. I really wonder if it has to do with Trump won the popular vote by a landslide. And all of a sudden you're starting to see these companies do more regular conservative type of advertisements. Like who was the. There's that car company that did a very conservative ad. And then Target even has changed the way they lay out their stores again. So who has Target like because you know how Target had all the, the controversy with what they were pushing during Pride Month and now all of a sudden they're saying Merry Christmas again, which they dare not do that. Before Donald Trump got how, what is it, 80.
- [40:40]
Phil Labonte
There was, I guess a federal court ruled today the Target may have violated federal security laws by failing to disclose.
- [40:45]
Tim Pool
We do have that story.
- [40:46]
Phil Labonte
Oh, never mind then. I will. Well, wait for it then. Sorry for. Go. Go ahead.
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Decoy Voice
No, but it just seems like all of a sudden all these companies care about not advertising on Twitch because of the popular vote. It's not because any of these companies necessarily believe in what this is or they want to shut down a frog in or they want to shut down a Hasan. They just don't want to be caught in the wrong side of what's currently trending online right now. They're in it to make money.
- [41:08]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, I think that, I do think that you're right, that, that the fact that, that there was such a strong, you know, change in, or a strong signal sent from the American people is probably the best way to say it. Because even if people will, people will nitpick as to whether or not it was a landslide for Donald Trump. But what you can't do is say that there wasn't a landslide for the right. I think that it was, it was something like 11 counties in California moved to the right and shifted red. If you look at a, if you look at the, the, the, the shift nationwide, there's a massive shift for policies that are more conservative. A lot of this I think is because of the, you know, the backlash from the, a lot of the stuff that went on with, you know, defund the police and stuff and the, the border situation. I think the people are seeing those things. If they're not seeing them in their, in real life and in their, you know, day to day lives, they're seeing the results on social media. They're hearing the stories. So I think that it's, it's undeniable that there has been a shift from the left to the right in the US And I think that you're probably right. You're seeing it with advertisers, but you're also like we had, you know, we had shank on last night from the Young Turks. And both Cenk and Anna have had a bit of a. At the very least, I think Anna's made a shift to the right. But I think that at the very least, Schenck is softening on the on, on, on opening the doors to discuss things with the right where for a long time it was outside of the of acceptable conversation to say, yes, I'll talk to but I'll conservatives, I'll give.
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Tim Pool
Cenk some credit because he has made the point for a long time we should accept the victories we can where we agree with the right. He's made that point whether you agree with him or not. He says Trump was an insurrectionist and all these things I totally disagree with. But I've seen him several years ago being like, hey, if the right wants to end foreign wars or whatever, let's take what we can get. And more recently, he got flacked because he tweeted at Elon like they're talking about making it so that generals can't work as defense contractors for 10 years or whatever. This is a great thing to do. Ban them from doing this. They overspend on purpose to get, you know, then once they're done with their term or they leave the executive, the military, whatever, they go with these defense contractors and they'll have totax shop blinds.com Cyber Monday sales event now for some.
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Decoy Voice
Yeah, well, I, I've watched. What is it Anna. Anna Kasparian. And Kasparian would. I believe her shift right is very genuine because of what happened to her. I believe when she was walking her dog and she said that it was like transients attacked her and then she saw the backlash she got for saying, hey, I'm in danger in Los Angeles county why can't I request safety from the police? But sank or Cenk, how do you say his name?
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Ian Crossland
Cenk.
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Decoy Voice
Cenk. Cenk. I mean, I saw him on election night kind of going down with the ship and all of a sudden I don't follow him enough. So you guys know him better than I do. But when he's reemerged now, he seems to be very open to Trump and very open to the conservative point of view. And it's almost like, does he see the writing on the wall? I'm not going down with cnn, MSNBC and all the other woke media outlets. I need to become more centrist so I can capture the actual audience that isn't propped up by bots.
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Ian Crossland
My take, my take on Cenk, I'd like to see him is that he's a what you would define as a good faith actor. Whether you agree with them or not, or you like him or you don't, he's always been acted out of what he truly believes. He's like a hothead at times.
- [45:14]
Tim Pool
But like I would say he's hot headed, emotional wrong. And I'd give him the good faith thing. But the reason why I add the hot headed stuff is because often he's so wrong he can't see straight. He's like so emotional about it.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, he'll admit it too. He admit it last night. He's like sometimes, you know, I go, he's.
- [45:32]
Tim Pool
I gotta be honest, with all due respect, he's. This is gonna piss off everybody. But he's got an element of left wing. Alex Jones, right. The Lava people were posting a video from the show of him going like this with his arms next to Alex Jones doing the same thing.
- [45:50]
Ian Crossland
We got to get them in a room together.
- [45:52]
Tim Pool
They don't agree, but they both have those moments of getting heated in culture war.
- [45:55]
Ian Crossland
That's your culture war episode, dude.
- [45:58]
Tim Pool
If we got Cenk Uygur and Alex Jones on one, they do it. They both, I think they would actually. Yeah. So I can appreciate the insane.
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Phil Labonte
He definitely like, we're not. When I was talking to him, I was like, you know, complaining about, about the way that he was framing it and how people were, you know, framing the, the situation with the Senate and how senators are elected and what their designated role is. He was like really just yelling over me as if me articulating my point was going to be a bad thing. And it was very Alex Jonesy. I can't a lot really pushes buttons. I thought they were going to get into it.
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Ian Crossland
I was Fun to watch. I had to go to the bathroom. I was like, I don't want to miss. I just turned the volume up really loud because I had to walk out of the room.
- [46:42]
Tim Pool
It was a cacophony of it cut.
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Ian Crossland
To you and you're, you're like, you're like smiling and watching.
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Tim Pool
And then I'm like, okay, okay, guys, guys. Now it's just.
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Decoy Voice
Yeah, I can appreciate that then, because I know a lot of people in Los Angeles that are like that, where if you only watch CNN and what famous celebrities said about news cycle items, you would probably be like, him too, because you'd think Trump is after you. He was attacking the Capitol, all that stuff. Where if he's, if he means well, he just is misled, then I, I have. He's like, what do you say?
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Tim Pool
A.
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Decoy Voice
A good faith liberal.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah. Based in communication. First, like, that seems like his number one tenant is communication. He said something last night that was like, if we don't communicate with people we think we disagree with, we'll never find out about the things we actually agree with each other on.
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Phil Labonte
That's something that we've been saying here, you know, for a long time. The goal of kind of what we're doing here is to get people, is to find the off ramp, to prevent the meme from coming to life and the civil war from happening. The goal is, the point is to try to find a way to prevent our country that we all love from descending into chaos. And so it was really bleak for a while because the left wouldn't talk. And the left essentially just said, well, everyone that supports Trump is a racist bigot. They're all deplorables, blah, blah, blah. And the people that were in positions of authority in the Democrat Party, they were repeating this. You had the media, you had Hillary Clinton, you know, Joe Biden was saying, they're maga. Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country. He said. And when you have that as your starting point, you know, then it makes perfect sense to be like, I'm not going to talk to them. They're clearly the bad guys.
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Decoy Voice
I wonder if Cenk was legitimately trying to stop a civil war by saying, let's listen to them. Why didn't he start doing this when Biden got elected? Cool off the political climate. It's only when, oh, my God, the popular vote went to Donald Trump. Now it's time to start listening to the other side.
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Tim Pool
I would say he started off by saying, biden can't win. Are you nuts? We have to defeat them, but this is not the way. And they maintained Biden basically smashed his face into the ground figuratively, like, he ran for president.
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Decoy Voice
He's not.
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Tim Pool
Cenk Uygur ran for president. He came on the culture war being. Yeah. He was like, biden can't win. What are they doing? And we argued. We talked about, like, Ahmed Arby case, and it was heated. So I told him this. He's like, hey, I'm not. I now know MAGA is not my enemy or my mortal enemy. I'm like a little thick there, huh? Like, you were basically screaming in the face of the left, we have to defeat Trump. Biden's not the guy. And then when Trump wins, he says, he basically said, okay, what are you gonna do? Like Trump, he said, Trump legitimately won. He got the popular vote. He said for the longest time that Republicans were winning without the popular vote. And so we're pushing back against it, but this time Trump got it. And I think Gent realized the Democratic Party is defeated. They wouldn't listen to him. They wouldn't listen to the people screaming Biden couldn't win. They lied out their teeth every step of the way. He tried running for president. He can't. He wasn't born in America. But now he's got. He's left with no choice. That only choice is to try and reach an olive branch out to maga.
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Ian Crossland
One aspect of what I think, Phil, you mentioned it just a bit ago about how part of the problem from the last eight years was that there wasn't a communication. There was a communication barrier from. It was. A lot of it was the media telling people, don't associate with them. And it was like the deplorable, whatever it was, don't associate with them. And there was. It was probably both sides, but there was a lot of it coming from the mainstream media.
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Phil Labonte
A lot of it.
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Ian Crossland
A little bit from what, the underground, but a lot of it from the mainstream media. I'm concerned with these. These ad boycotts on Twitch, and I'm kind of tying it back into the story because it's sort of like a don't associate with them vibe again. And I know it's just. It's different because it's corporations and they're like, we're not going to associate our brand with you. But it does feel like, hey, anti Semitic guy bad. Don't associate with Rondo. What the hell is that guy?
- [50:43]
Phil Labonte
Frogan.
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Ian Crossland
Frogan. Associate with Frog.
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Phil Labonte
It's a girl.
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Ian Crossland
And like, no, associate with Froan. Have a conversation with him. If you disagree with him, then talk to him and figure out why.
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Tim Pool
But I will say this. I can't speak to Frog. I don't know who that is, but I think it's fair to say be careful of the people whose intentions are not to have real conversations, but to create chaos and harm people.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
So I'm not saying who to make. I'm not saying there should be an arbiter of who that determination is. I'm just saying trolling is fine, but some of these people are chaotic, evil and their intention is, I'll say, I'll say like this. There are people that I know if I invited on this show would be like, no, no, no, trust me. Like, we'll have a conversation as soon as the camera turns on, they're going to break every rule imaginable on YouTube to try and get the show banned. Like, so some people, you just are like, okay, that person is the joker. We can't have them on.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah. And also to the, to the, to the point that you're making, there's nothing wrong with trying to associate with people and talk to people. And I agree with the spirit of your comment, but advertisers are not people. Like, when you're, if you're just like, I'm going to put up the sign for my brand, that's not, you can't have a conversation with a sign. You know, you can't have a conversation with a commercial. So as, as much as I do understand what you're saying about we should talk to people that we disagree with, that's perfectly fine. I agree with that. But if you're an advertiser, if all you're doing is, is saying, I'm looking to, you know, to put my brand up, and then the person that is standing in front of the sign that has your brand is saying horrible things about, you know, Jewish people or what have you, I think that it's pretty reasonable for advertisers to say now. I mean, I do think that, you know, it's probably not a bad thing for advert for some brands to say, oh, we're okay with edgier, edgier content. I think if the UFC is, is looking for people to advertise, you could probably have edgier. You know, you can have edgier brands and stuff like that. But when it comes to like, you know, Dunkin Donuts, I totally get why they're like, no, don't put a Jew hater in front of our, our sign.
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Decoy Voice
You know, and describing like Kick and Rumble compared to Twitch, like Twitch was supposed to be the clean one. That's more in line with what happens on Netflix as opposed to what happens on those alternative streaming sites. But then all of a sudden, they turned around and said, hey, wait a minute. This is by far worse than anything we've seen on Rumble or Kik.
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Tim Pool
Let's, let's jump to the story from America first legal victory. US District Court denies Target's attempt to dismiss AFL lawsuit and transfer venue shareholder action against undisclosed risks and losses caused by Target's esg, DEI and LGBTQ Pride campaign to continue. So this is not necessary. It's not. It's not a victory in that the courts have ruled that Target caused undue risk to the shareholders by running these Pride campaigns. They are basically saying, now you can't dismiss this. We want to hear these arguments. Take a look at this, they say. In a groundbreaking decision, the court denied both motions holding Target's 2021 risk disclosure could be materially misleading because it was not specifically tailored to the risks related to its plan for a new and aggressive 2023 Pride Month campaign. Target failed to account for the specific risk that Targets upcoming Pride Month campaign or previous campaigns championed by Target could cause customer boycotts and a loss of sales. The amended complaint alleges that Target knew the risks of the 2023 Pride Month campaign and failed to publicly disclose such risks. Generic risk disclosures are inadequate to shield defendants from liability for failing to disclose known risks. Long story short, Target ran this massive Pride Month campaign. Everybody knew it was toxic to do because I believe this happened after Bud Light. And yeah, Bud Light was, was before this because that was April, I think, and then June was Pride Month, and they did not disclose to shareholders, hey, you know that thing that's costing billions of dollars over here? We're going to do it, too. So we may see this, we may see a serious victory, they say. Due to boycotts against Target, the company lost $10 billion in market valuation between May 18 and May 23, with an overall loss between May 17 and October 6 of that same year of more than $25 billion in market capitalization. In denying Target's motion to transfer, the court noted that many of Target's directors live outside of Minnesota, and most of its corporate employees are required to come into the office once per quarter, implying that many of them work remotely. Furthermore, targets 20, 20, 21, 22 and 23 shareholder meetings did not occur in Minnesota. For these and other reasons, Target failed to carry its burden in demonstrating that this court should transfer the securities litigation case to the District of Minnesota.
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Decoy Voice
Wow. So they try to say that since they saw how Bud Light tanked their stock with the Dylan Mulvaney fiasco, that Target sense. They already set up their. Because I worked in retail many years ago. But the idea is, I don't think they're connected.
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Phil Labonte
Okay.
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Decoy Voice
They're not connected.
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Tim Pool
I think. I think the. The point is everybody knows that these campaigns are extremely politically divisive. Okay. And Target did not disclose. Hey, this is actually a political ideology. That's risky and they should have. Now, granted, the court didn't say they did. They're saying, you can't dismiss this. Like, we are going to move forward and hear the evidence. And this could result in Target getting serious penalties for running these pride campaigns. But I'll tell you this. This where we're at right now with this. Oh, it's going to send chills down the spine of every other corporation.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Not only Donald Trump's victory in the Republican sweep, but seeing that they couldn't get this dismissed, companies are going to be like, yeah, we stay away from that stuff you had.
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Phil Labonte
They have.
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Tim Pool
It won't go broke.
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Phil Labonte
They have a fiduciary responsibility to inform the shareholders of things that they're going to do that may negatively affect the stock price. And if you're going to do something that's controversial, again, like we were talking about, you know, we were just talking about why you wouldn't advertise with people that say controversial, controversial things, you know, whether they. Whether they be, you know, acceptable to one group or not. But, you know, when it comes to things like LGBTQ stuff, especially stuff that's geared towards children, that's a risky thing to talk about and to have in your store. And to make that, you know, to not disclose that to your shareholders when they're the ones that are, you know, they have. They have a right to know what you're going to be doing and what you're doing. And if you do something that could negatively affect the stock price, you know, you're. You're obligated to let your shareholders know. And if you. If you cost people money, you've cost them money, and they. They may have the right to say, hey, you owe me money. I want my money back. I lost money because you mismanaged the business that I invested in.
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Tim Pool
I think the important thing to understand and that I have little respect for is these people saying, like, we better watch out for. Cancel culture on the right. And I'm like, look, you know, I am not some surface level classical liberal guy who is like, all free speech must be protected at all times for everybody, no matter what. That's silly. I was naive probably 10 years ago as to regard to these things. And now it's very clear that there is moral worldview and there are those that would adhere to one and those that would not. So it's not so easy to say I believe in free speech because then you end up with woke institutional elements trying to destroy you. So my view is simply, overwhelmingly, I agree with free speech, but I don't defend the free speech rights of people who seek to destroy my rights. That's it. That's where the line is. I will not aid and abet people who are trying to destroy our worldview and our values that pertain to classical liberal traditions and things like this. What I see with a lot of other people is they're like, we have to defend all of our enemies and let them do these things. And I bring this up in this context because the idea is, I mean, we can't cancel these companies and boycott them for doing these things. I mean, I'm like, no, yeah, we absolutely can. Absolutely. These employees, these corporate employees, these are the ones who are running the censorship campaigns. These are the people who are getting your products banned. These are the people who are making sure that your books don't appear on Amazon. So when we say, no, no, no, no, no, enough of this crackpot ideology that's shutting everybody down. I will not defend you. In fact, I will be happy to see your company fail. And then we can, once we've stabilized and we're all in agreement that we, that these people will not be in control of what we can see, think, hear or purchase, then we can say, okay, fine, have, have your, your section in the back of the store or whatever. And you know, if people don't want to buy from you, they won't buy from you. But I'm not going to tolerate institutionalized authoritarian ideology. That's, that's my view. So if Target is going to play these games with these ideologies, I say sucks to be you. I'm not going to defend a single ounce of your speech or anything like that.
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Decoy Voice
Yeah, it kind of seems like they're done because they've shifted back to like Christmas. Christmas, not holiday season Christmas stuff again. And you're seeing it with, what is it? A apple just did a very unwoke just family. Not necessarily family friendly, but like family first with not all the DEI woke nonsense interjected in it. So it seems like these. You say you couldn't like attack a company because they're a faceless machine, but it's oftentimes like the CEO and the board, how taken over are they by the woke mob. So it seems like these corporations and companies are starting to turn back to what? Oh yeah, the regular person wants to see. Which is just. I want to know. Jaguar is going to be the coolest car. Don't tell me about all the.
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Tim Pool
I'm with Jaguar on that one. They were right.
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Ian Crossland
What were they right about?
- [60:29]
Tim Pool
Did you see the new Jaguars? Who's Jaguar? Jaguars target market.
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Decoy Voice
I thought it would be just a regular person that all of a sudden like I saw the cool vehicle when I was.
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Tim Pool
Jags are expensive. Yeah.
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Decoy Voice
But when I get become wealthy then all of a sudden I'll want to get that car. Like I've kind of.
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Tim Pool
So wait, is it so for the people? No, no, no. It's rich. Rich people. Right?
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Decoy Voice
Yeah, yeah.
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Tim Pool
So these cars gonna cost 100 grand? Yeah. What kind of person's got 100 grand to spend on a car? Capitalist city dweller. Right? Oh yeah. So Jaguar said, who buys Jags? It's upper class individuals who tend to live in cities. And what are their political affiliations? They're liberal, they're woke. I said, okay, that's who we're targeting. Then Democrats tend to be higher income individuals with crackpot ideologies. And they realized they're not gonna get the cool city slicker guy anymore with the old classic Jag. They need to target the urban dwelling, upscale individual. I guarantee they had a marketing meeting where the guy said, here's your current 35 year old millionaire in New York City who's gonna buy a Jag? And it's some hipster guy with black glasses and a beard and a flannel and he's got a pride flag pin. And they're like, that's it. He works for BuzzFeed. He writes listicles and he makes a million bucks. Or not Buzzfeed. But you know, he works, he runs a blog. That's the guy who's going to buy a luxury car. That's cool. And here's the best part. They've abandoned Tesla. Here's our target market. So I think the cars are ugly and nasty and I never buy one. But I think their view is we know the Democratic party has become the party of the wealthy and we know it's higher income people that tend to vote Democrat. And then you look at regular Working class people, they're not going to buy Jags. And so they're like screw it, go woke. That's our target. And they're not a broad market company anyway. You know Jaguar, these are luxury cars. They're not like Coca Cola in a grocery store or Bud Light. They're specifically targeting one group of ultra wealthy people and they probably said disproportionate amount of people who live in cities and have money that are woke. So let's roll with it.
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Decoy Voice
Is Jaguar owned by a company kind of like Lexus and Toyota or they their own thing? No, it's owned.
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Ian Crossland
I'll pull it up.
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Tim Pool
Motors. Is that who owns it?
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, I think it is.
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Decoy Voice
I'd be curious if they have a smaller, like more economy line underneath their umbrella. And are they just doing regular stuff at the same time? They're having Jaguar and that's what they're doing.
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Tim Pool
EVs.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
Company.
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Tim Pool
These people ditch Tesla and they want the EV go green. Woke. Well, like well or well off up to uppity liberal.
- [62:46]
Ian Crossland
They own Land Rover, Jaguars and Land Rovers and they merge them into Jaguar Land Rover Limited.
- [62:51]
Tim Pool
Yep.
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Ian Crossland
It's an Indian company.
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Decoy Voice
Oh wait, Jaguars, the one that's doing the way mo's right now. Right. That's like the autonomous car in San Francisco. So it's like. That makes sense then they're, they're targeting that. They're only going to target their. They're so in their bubble, they can't see beyond Bud Light because they know that they're not trying to sell to like beer drinking, college football watching people.
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Tim Pool
They sat down and they said, look, that $55,000 a year plumber, he ain't buying a Jag. Who is? And they're like, well, you've got this software developer who lives in New York. He's. Well, they are non binary, you know, and they've got disposable income. They could buy one. And they're like, okay, what do they want? I don't know. Baby blue and salmon pink. Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
Did you see the new pink Jaguar? I just saw the reveal today.
- [63:35]
Tim Pool
Awful. I like the front from straight on. Yeah. And then, and then you go on the back you're like, now it's getting ugly and oblong.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, I'm kind of drawn to it. It's electric.
- [63:45]
Tim Pool
Yeah, they're all electric.
- [63:46]
Ian Crossland
Okay.
- [63:46]
Tim Pool
And they're, they're, they're just so goofy.
- [63:48]
Ian Crossland
The real, real like thin looking lights.
- [63:51]
Decoy Voice
I really changed.
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Phil Labonte
Very art deco.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [63:53]
Tim Pool
Get well, go broke, I gotta say.
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Decoy Voice
Get well, go Broke all concept cars don't really turn out to be what actually goes on the assembly line out there for the regular people. But it does change my perspective on this because then you're saying how like they targeted their. Their people and us seeing from the outside in. What is it? All the promotional stuff for that wicked movie. And it's like it was insufferable for anybody regular. But my girlfriend loved it. I heard it's doing great on the box office. So they know their target demographic.
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Tim Pool
The movie ever. Even conservatives. Like, actually, the movie was really good.
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Decoy Voice
It was good, okay.
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Tim Pool
But the press tour is psychotic. Danny Polishuk has an epic AI video. You guys got to watch his video on this where he's interviewing them and they're saying it's really good. I can't. I can't do the bit justice. But Danny, we've had him on the show. You know, Ryan Long and Danny Palace, Chuck, they do bits together. But Danny's YouTube channel, check it out. He's sitting down with them and he asks some questions. The last question he asked is like. He's like, 911 tower seven. Did it. How did it fall down? And then he uses AI to have the. Or. I don't know what he does. He like edits it to make them answer these funny questions. But anyway, I digress.
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Ian Crossland
So this wicked movie is about the. The wizard of Oz called the wizard of Oz. Okay.
- [65:01]
Tim Pool
Where the wicked witch is actually the good guy.
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Ian Crossland
Oh, of course. Is it good? But apparently it's.
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Decoy Voice
Apparently people like it. But it's sad because I don't know the. Not Ariana Grande, the other girl.
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Tim Pool
I really like Cynthia and Symphony.
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Ian Crossland
Erivo Aro. Yeah. And Revo E R I V O because EO Erivo.
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Decoy Voice
I really liked her in that Stephen King HBO miniseries. If you saw it. The Outsider. It's from. With. It's with the guy from Arrested Development. But she's a guy on the main actor.
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Ian Crossland
Jason Bateman.
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Decoy Voice
Jason Bateman. And it's like. It's kind of like a slow turn, but it's a good. If you're into something spooky, it was really good. And to see her kind of go off the deep end on press toys, it's like I really wish I didn't see that because I thought she was an amazing actress.
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Ian Crossland
And then speaking of the deep end, I guess that that Snow White movie is going forward. Did you hear anything about that? Yeah. Snow White. Let's.
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Tim Pool
Let's jump to this. We have this story, this clip from Drama Alert. Car crash Involving a kick streamer. Wow, that's a clip. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you. Idiocracy is live and it's now. Yeah, my bad, my bad, my bad. So kick doesn't. Wow, that's a clip. Clip it.
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Phil Labonte
I went live, though. Holy.
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Tim Pool
Six viewers. Okay. Another person, bro. I can't even move my car up.
- [66:16]
Phil Labonte
Holy.
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Tim Pool
That's why you insure your.
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Phil Labonte
Your car, bro.
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Tim Pool
I gotta turn it off, man. It's in the back. But damn, that's like the calmest I've ever been in a car accident. That's a clip. Damn, man. I've had this car for two years.
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Phil Labonte
Oh, I was going to put an.
- [66:33]
Tim Pool
Exhaust on it, man.
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Decoy Voice
Well, rip, guys.
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Tim Pool
So welcome to Idiocracy. A man live streaming in his car while he's driving. He has stopped. There's an accident behind him, which hits the back of his car and blows out his wind his rear windshield. And you know, in the normal, in sane, normal reality 15, 20 years ago, a person in their car would get hit. They'd look back, they check themselves, get up out of the car, grab their phone. If they. Or if they had a cell phone look around and be like, is everybody okay? Is everybody okay? And then they'd call 911. We had an accident here, guys. Instead it's like, oh, dude, clip it. Let's go viral clip. Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
And it was like, oh, it's a clip. He didn't even sound excited. It's like this deadened, like Prozac. I don't know if it's Prozac. I don't want to call out Prozac by name, but like, people are fried, dude.
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Phil Labonte
If he's a car snob, why is like, I would. I'm. I'm surprised he wasn't upset that his car was hit. Like, if he's a car, like, if that's his deal is to like do car streaming or whatever, you know, I.
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Decoy Voice
Think he's a car snob as a means to an end. He just wants to be a social media star. So he's doing it with the car and then he sadly looks like the car is tumbling towards him. So the person could have had lots of damage to them. And then he's only seen it as an opportunity to go viral, which he did. But it's sad that that's how disconnected we are from reality, where it's not a car accident where someone got. Almost got harmed. It's oh my God, this is my moment. I have six live stream viewers right now. Now I'm going to be somebody. This is the most interesting thing that he could produce is getting rear ended by a vehicle. It's.
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Tim Pool
And this is, and where we are headed with this, it's not about this one guy. This one guy. This is just one example of Internet psychotic disorder. What do you want to call it? Where it's like someone finally hit something where they're going to get looked at. That's it.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah, yeah.
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Tim Pool
Let me tell you guys. Okay. I see the people in chat say, why are we talking about this? What's this about? What it's about is when I was a kid, what I looked up to was, can you jump the highest? Can you run the fastest? Can you save the most people? Can you build the best car? Can you be the best? Can you score the most points? Now it's how many views do you get? Well, how do you get views? I don't know, something dumb happens to you. So you end up with young women getting suicidally depressed on Instagram because they don't get enough likes. And the only way they get likes is by filtering their faces and looking weird. And then you got dudes like this being like, yes, yes, this is my moment. I got rear ended. It used to be you're growing up and you're like, I just ran and broke the state record in the hundred meter dash. Yeah. And then you'd high five your friends and you'd have a video of it. They gave you a trophy. Now they don't give you trophies anymore. Now everybody gets a trophy.
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Ian Crossland
And it also used to be about consistency, where it wasn't about that one off moment where you get this viral blip. It's like, no, dude, I run a hundred meters really fast over and over and over and over. And people take notice and then they put you on a pedestal and take a picture of you. And that's why you're famous, is because you consistently create greatness. That's a stupid flash in the pan.
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Tim Pool
That picture was the blip for you. You worked really, really hard for that fleeting moment where they would hand you that one trophy. There's one, there's only one first place. And if you're not first, you're last.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, because I was going to say it's like this disgusting culture of people putting cameras on themselves, but we're putting cameras on ourselves right now. And it's not disgusting because, yeah, this isn't a flash in the pan moment where we're hoping to get a viral clip. This is a consistent endeavor where it's Constantly putting out quality over and over and over and over and builds a huge audience as a result.
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Tim Pool
You make a good point, Ian. I don't think we go for the viral clips enough on this show. Can I throw Tim?
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Phil Labonte
Fucking done.
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Decoy Voice
Well, there's a thumbnail. That's what he was thinking.
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Tim Pool
See, that's all we got to do, Ian, you son of a bitch. No, you know, it's. Flip it. What's funny is there are shows that do that.
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Decoy Voice
Reality television.
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Tim Pool
Oh, I know, but they're podcasters that are like, can we make fake drama? We want to get a viral clip. So we're going to intentionally say or do a thing. Oh, yeah, just.
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Ian Crossland
It's not fulfilling in. As an artist for me, it's not fulfilling to do that. I tried to do that in the early days of YouTube. I'm like, I just find the videos that got featured and I'd respond to them because I'm like, how do I get famous faster? And I'm like, why am I getting famous? It matters what you got famous for.
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Tim Pool
They're gonna clip you crying.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, do it, dude.
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Phil Labonte
That'll.
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Decoy Voice
That'll be the. Whenever any, ever anybody wants to talk about you on YouTube, they're gonna use that as the thumbnail.
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Ian Crossland
Beautiful.
- [70:53]
Tim Pool
I'll make it. They'll make a gif of it.
- [70:54]
Ian Crossland
And I was so loose.
- [70:56]
Tim Pool
But see, here's. Here's a crazy thing. Like, obviously we could do stupid things like that and make the show have more viral moments with like, I don't know, someone could throw a Frisbee at.
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Decoy Voice
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
And just say he gets hitting ed.
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Ian Crossland
Or beach balls in the office.
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Tim Pool
But this is the point, right? So you see people like Andrew Tate and he gets ragged on all the time. And I think they're silly guys. I think they know that they post, like. I don't say. I think they. I know. They literally post these silly cringe things. And the left thinks they're owning them by mocking them. For example, when Andrew Tate got out, he's like, I just bought 10 new Bugattis and that's their scooters. He has these little scooters and he jumps on one and he scoots away in a goofy looking way. And the left is like, why do people look up to him? He's screwing around, dude. Calm down. Now, by all means, criticize the guy for whatever you want to criticize him for, but there's a reason why he's got so many followers that are young men. There's a reason why Jordan Peterson got so popular among young men because we're sick and tired of a society where it's like to be great. Well, everybody gets a trophy. So accomplishment and merit ain't going to get you any recognition or greatness. Music is done by AI now they're doing AI videos. The movie industry is dead. What can you do? Get hit in the face of pie. I guess now you got. Have you seen those videos where the dudes go to Walmart and then they grab the gallons of milk and just spray themselves with milk? Like the Internet is breaking people's brains.
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Ian Crossland
I think it's consistency is a big part of every, of winning in life is doing, being able to replicate what you do.
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Decoy Voice
I just think that they have the. They're mistaken. They think if they go viral with this moment, I'm gonna get go from six viewers to ten viewers to a thousand. Not knowing that they only tuned in for this viral moment. He has to recreate it again.
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Tim Pool
He had six viewers.
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Phil Labonte
That's exactly right. Though the idea of getting one thing to go viral is missing the point. The reason why you can become a, you know, whatever, an Internet star or whatever is because you continuously put out produce content that people find compelling, whatever it may be. It has to be something that you can, that you can do over and over and over and it has to continue to be fresh. Just, just having one thing that goes big. You know, that, that was, that's, that's like a, what a one hit wonder, you know, that was what happened, you know, to artists that had one good song and then nobody cared about anything afterwards.
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Decoy Voice
The sad part is he's gonna get this little dose of fame. This, this clip right here has like 200,000 views compared to his normal six. It's gonna be crazy. So he's either gonna always wonder what, why he let that opportunity slip for him to become the next Jack Doherty or whatever, or he's going to continuously outdo himself staging things or doing something dangerous to put himself in this situation. There's no path out of this that ends happily.
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Phil Labonte
No, no, I mean, look, you can, you can learn how to, you know, you, you can spend your time trying to go viral by doing things like this, or you can spend your time trying to do something or, or hone a skill that people find valuable.
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Tim Pool
So. Excellent super chat from amtru. Dylan Mulvaney is a perfect example.
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Phil Labonte
There you go.
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Tim Pool
This is, this is hitting the nail in the head with the hammer. Why do we bring these things up? What are we talking about? Dylan Mulvaney 10 million followers. Why Dylan? We, we looked back at Dylan Mulvaney's tick tock and went to the early days. Did you see his early posts?
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Decoy Voice
It was just a regular kind of social media. Aspiring social media star Funny Animals with.
- [74:22]
Tim Pool
Dylan Mulvaney on the safari. And these things weren't working. And then Dylan was like, I'm coming out as gay. And it's like a thousand, you know, 10,000 views and whoa, now I'm bi. 20,000 views. I think I might be trans. 100,000 views. And then finally I'm gonna be a girl. A million views. And then day one of being a girl, Million views. Day two. And they were all. I mean, it looked at first like it was parody. Like one of the first things Dylan Mulvaney made was, I'm a woman now and I'm going to cry. And it was like, are you insulting women? Is like, that would. That was the bit. And then what happens? I believe that Dylan Mulvaney ended up getting all that surgery for the same reason Madonna does, to play to a character, to be a personality and to generate traffic and attention. I don't think Dylan Mulvaney is actually trans, like the average trans person. So that's. I described it as. There's, there's different kinds of transgender. There's. And I don't want to get too much into it because we try to be family friendly. But there's the kink version, there's the gender dysphoric version, which is the one that people are typically discussing, although there are a lot of people that do the kink stuff. But then there's Dylan Mulvaney, which is the Madonna version, which is get plastic surgery to be famous, you know, in the pictures or whatever. So Dylan was like, better get surgery to play this role and get traffic. And you can see it in the evolution of Dylan's content. That's what we see with all of these people. It doesn't matter if it's good. It's just, it's insanity. Whatever. Terrifies, shocks, enrages people the most in that moment. To get views is all that matters. Being good, smart, funny, doesn't matter to these people.
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Ian Crossland
There's. There's like, there's this, there's this. I don't you call it. But there's this miss calculation by a lot of people that get famous doing something that they have to keep doing that thing now that they're famous, to get more famous. But a lot of times you might springboard into notoriety through doing one thing like complaining on The Internet. But then once you're famous, you don't need to complain anymore. Like, you can now do humanitarian things. You're still well known, and you can evolve. And some people get trapped in that cycle of doing what they used to do because they think they have to keep doing that to get bigger.
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Decoy Voice
I think it's when a celebrity gets bigger than the medium that they. That brought them into stardom, where you have somebody like Michael Jordan or Mike Tyson, they get famous from this particular sport. But then once more people know about Mike Tyson than watch boxing. Now he can do whatever he wants, be in the hangover, do cartoons or whatever. Or the same thing with like, musicians. Like, once a rapper, like you have Outkast and Andre 3000, once he becomes bigger than rap, he can pivot to whatever he wants. Movies or do that, that different type of album, the experimental type of stuff. So if you can get past that, I guess it's called an inflection point, then you can do whatever you want. But the people that are still trying to recreate the same thing in the same medium over and over and not evolving, it's because they don't have the option to. Because if they experiment outside their genre of music or their experiment outside of the movies they've been typecast into, all of a sudden people like, oh, I don't. I don't like this. And it's like, yeah, because you're not popular enough to just make it on just your face. I feel like it'd be the same thing if, if some random guy off the street wanted to do a YouTube channel and become a YouTuber compared to Will Smith, he can come on the platform and become popular day one. I guess it's a bad example right now, but if you're a celebrity, other famous actor, I don't know.
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Ian Crossland
Kevin Spacey.
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Decoy Voice
Kevin Spacey can do.
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Phil Labonte
That's another one that's probably doing Sweeney Whatever.
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Decoy Voice
She can do whatever.
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Tim Pool
Kevin Spacey made a YouTube video after the scandal and it was massively viral. Every news station picked it up, every website picked it up.
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Ian Crossland
And Will Smith could probably pull it off too.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Let's jump to this next story. We got this from Axio. Supreme Court seems likely to uphold ban on gender affirming care. My friends, today the Supreme Court heard oral arguments as to whether or not Tennessee can ban child sex changes. I. I think it may go one step further. Depending on how the court wants to rule on this, they may keep it limited and just say, Texas, you're allowed to do this. Thank you have a nice day. However, if they say the states, you know, Tennessee can't ban this, it is. It has ramifications for all the other states that ban child sex changes. Now, there's a few things that were interesting here. The first thing is that the transgender attorney for the ACLU admitted there is no evidence that child sex changes prevent suicide. That's crazy. Quote, tragically, deaths by suicide in trans people of all ages continue to be above the national average, but there is no evidence that gender affirmative treatments reduce this. Shocking. This is where it gets interesting. This is the story right here. May mailman tweets Alito asks whether transgenderism is immutable, meaning you can't change it. ACLU says it's biologically driven, trying to dodge. Alito says, what about gender fluid? ACLU admits that exists. That exists. Immutable immutability is the key to being a protected legal class. This argument for the Supreme Court, I don't think it's likely, but has the potential to effectively remove 1964 civil rights protections from people based on gender identity under the argument that gender fluidity proves that being trans is not immutable. In fact, you can change whenever you feel like it, and thus it is not protected.
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Phil Labonte
I hope that it actually does turn out that way.
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Tim Pool
Well, the question that is, is SCOTUS a bunch of cowards?
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Phil Labonte
Well, there's, well, there, there are some cowards on scotus, but there are also some absolute idiots. So, like Sotomayor and K. I forget what her name is. Yeah, she is an absolute idiot.
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Ian Crossland
She's not a biologist.
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Phil Labonte
She's not a biologist. She definitely isn't. And I mean, and that's part of why I think that, you know, she's. She should be disqualified. Like, she should or she should have been disqualified. The fact that she refused to answer what a, you know, what a woman is. I mean, if you're going to refuse to answer based on ideological grounds, I think that, that, that's, that should prevent you from sitting on, on the Supreme Court, particularly when, you know, cases like this are going to be brought before the Supreme Court. We know exactly where she's going to come down. There's no, there's no reason for, for her to even spend any time inquiring with the, with the, you know, with, with anyone about, about this stuff. You know, exactly where she's coming down. Come down. And it's not because of her opinion on the Constitution, but because of her ideological possession by the left.
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Ian Crossland
I got to say, when it comes to being trans, if someone feels that they're in the wrong body, I'm, I, that is, that, that would be very rough. And I think people like that, it should be taken seriously if someone's feeling like that and they should be, you know, handled with whatever kind of care and, you know, kindness or whatever you need to do to help someone like that. But if you can truly say, I'm a woman now, and then tomorrow you can be like, I'm a man again. It's not a protected class.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, it's all it is, is about how you feel. And you're definitely not, you should not receive protections from the government which will also require accommodation from the rest of society.
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Tim Pool
I don't understand why these leftists are trying to bring these Supreme Court cases right now. So when it comes to like defamations.
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Phil Labonte
Or the lulz, perhaps.
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Tim Pool
Okay, when it comes to defamation, if Ian says, you know, tim, kick the dog. And I say, no, I didn't, Ian, I'm going to sue you, let's say Ian's a big publication. These big publications tend to settle out right away because it's not about whether they're right or wrong. Their lawyers say, listen, you accused the person of doing a thing, you made a statement of fact, they're suing you for defamation, you'll probably win. However, if this goes to court and you lose and you appeal, or if they, if you win and they appeal and this goes to the Supreme Court, they could overturn Times v. Sullivan and you will get sued 5,000 times before the end of the month. So they say, okay, pay them up. The lawyer could say, you're going to win the suit. And if they appeal, if it may, if it goes to trial, you win, they appeal. Supreme Court could shut down this protection you have in precedent. So they typically just say, we're not going to be involved. We're going to pay you what you want. We're sorry. So for the ACLU right now knowing it's a 6 to 3 conservative leaning court to say, let's bring this lawsuit forward and try and do they think that Alito and Thomas are going to be alike? Yes. Give children sex changes. Yeah, I really don't see that happening. So then you've got Amy Coney Barrett and you've got Kavanaugh, and then I suppose everybody's hoping that Roberts is going to side with them, but he's probably not. But still, I think Gorsuch, and then that's it.
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Phil Labonte
I only hope that this does come out where the Supreme Court, you know, does uphold the ban. Because this is about children, right? This is about kids. And I've heard, you know, you hear the meme when you have transgender children, the people deciding the children are transgender are the same people deciding that their cats are vegan. Right. You know, it's, it's not something that the children are actually deciding if, and I think it's something like 85% of transgender children desist at puberty and it just turns out that they were gay or lesbian, which, like, there should be no, no limitation or whatever on, on who you want to marry or whatever. But as far as children go. And furthermore, if you are taking a position that transgenderism is something that we should, we should, you know, affirm when they're adults and you, and you want to make sure that, that transgender people can, can get surgery and blah, blah, blah. If you prevent the trend the children from going through natural puberty, you cannot produce neo vaginas and you cannot make like because there's not enough material with the genitals because they don't develop properly. So even you can make an approach trans argument. You can make a neither here nor there trans argument or you can make an anti trans argument. But the fact of the matter is they're kids. You should not be doing life changing surgery or giving children drugs that will sterilize them for life because they cannot make an informed decision.
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Tim Pool
This is interesting. Axios says just four years ago, the court ruled that firing trans workers because they are trans is a form of illegal sex discrimination. Advocates argued that that same logic should apply to health care. Neil Gorsuch, a Trump appointee, wrote the majority opinion in that case. My Roberts and the court's liberals. Gorsuch did not ask any questions Wednesday, so there's no way to know whether he thinks the two cases are aligned. Even if he is inclined to side with the family's challenging Tennessee's law, he would need to bring along at least one other conservative justice to achieve a majority. They say oral arguments are an indication of how the justices are thinking about a case, not a surefire prediction of how they'll ultimately rule. It would be insane if the Supreme Court sides with the ACLU and says that Texas isn't allowed to ban these treatments. The oral arguments from Tennessee were sound. He outright said, we used to have lobotomies and other surgeries that irreparably harmed children. We know that. But it was incumbent upon the states to impose those regulations to stop these practices from happening. As we are doing now. And you even have the story from the post Millennial where the attorney for the ACLU admitted there's no evidence child sex changes help prevent suicide.
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Ian Crossland
That's really the sticking point for me because the whole, a lot of the argument of we need to rush these kids through life changing surgeries. God. Is that they would kill themselves if they didn't get it. And if now they're admitting that that's actually not the case, it's not preventing suicides, then I don't see the reason for rushing it.
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Decoy Voice
Yeah, it's life's life saving medical care. That's how they keep on pushing it. Now it's out of the window. So I don't know what they can do now.
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Phil Labonte
There is no. All the evidence indicates that, that if you give the children these surgeries or these kind of life changing drugs, there is no change in suicidality afterwards. It's still ridiculously high. Some people don't, but it's still incredibly high compared to the rest of society. These people need help, they need care. But they don't need to have the idea that they are in the, that they're the wrong gender or that they, they were born in the wrong body. Affirmed. That is, that is not, that's not okay. You know, if you're an adult and you say I want to live as a, as a woman and you were born a man or you're a man and you want to live as a woman, we, society can handle that. We can absolutely deal with that. Because once it stops being something that's pushed in schools and as a trend and something that that is, is cool and unique and once the LGBT community that are the politicized LGBT community stops trying to create more trans people and tell children, oh, maybe you're this once it returns to normalcy, it will go back down to being an extremely small percentage of the population. I just saw a tweet and I don't know where it went to, but something like 1 in 33 people now. 1 in 33 people in gen Z say they're, they're, they're trans or something like that. It used to be 1 in 107 70. And this is in the past 10 years. Mario. I think it was Mario Knafel that posted it. But the point being it is a trend and it is a trend because this is the cool hip new thing and it is not something that we should be allowing children to have life change life altering surgery or take life altering drugs. For you, if you're if you're a progressive parent and you want your kid to. You want to let your kid dress a certain way, let them do it. I don't care, really. But we shouldn't be. We shouldn't be supporting this.
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Tim Pool
We got enough time for just one more quick segment. So we're going to do something on this show we've never done before. We are going to talk about hock to talk about.
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Ian Crossland
I was going to bring her up earlier when we were talking about viral moments making indeed famous.
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Tim Pool
So right now there's this tweet going viral and I quite honestly don't care about hock Tua and any of that stuff. Stuff. However, this. She may go to jail. Yeah. So check this out. The Hawk to a girl says Hawkonomics. The team hasn't sold one token and not one Kol was given one free token. We tried to stop snipers as best we could through high fees in the start of the launch. So apparently. Look, I don't know exactly what this is about, but there's the rumor going around right now. She launched a meme token. She is telling people to purchase that token. Hawkonomics. And take a look at the context. The community note the team and insiders have actually been selling their tokens since launch. A majority have never purchased anything and have only sold the tokens they were given. Haley is lying and will likely have to talk to a judge about this. So right, right below it you have this guy Jackie says the team in question hasn't sold a single token note. None of their team besides the top sniper actually bought tokens only sold. And you can see this huge chart because it's public blockchain showing these individuals bought nothing and only sold to the tune of $40,000 on average it looks like about 40k. So I don't know a lot about this. I don't know if what she's doing is illegal. People are claiming that the Hawk to a girl has launched a crypto scam and is publicly lying and defrauding people and they're making tens of thousands of dol dollars and she's going to have to talk to a judge.
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Phil Labonte
So.
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Ian Crossland
So what is it? Hawk? I'm trying to find what is the. What's the like the symbol for it on coin market cap. Is it Hawk? Hawk can.
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Phil Labonte
I think it's like just jail bars, Just economics.
- [90:28]
Ian Crossland
Hawk. Economics. Hawk and Hawk count.
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Decoy Voice
I honestly feel like if they were gonna actually make her talk to a judge, what about all those other people? Like, didn't Jake Paul have A big crypto.
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Ian Crossland
Logan.
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Tim Pool
Logan.
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Decoy Voice
Paul.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah. Coffee? Zillow.
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Tim Pool
Yeah, but. But I suppose, Are they scams or are they just, you know, look, there's the, there's the, there's fraud and then there's the. A scammy thing to do. Is it a grift? Is it a fraud? Right. So if I was like, we are launching Timcast Coin. It's worth nothing. We have tons of it. I'm going to sell it and make money off it, and you can too. As long as I'm being honest about what it is. People can buy whatever they want. The issue is, did she say nobody's selling them and they're all selling them.
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Decoy Voice
So she essentially did what they did in Wolf of Wall street, where they launched an IPO and they already held it and they were selling it off.
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Tim Pool
I don't know. What do you mean?
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Decoy Voice
Like in Wolf of Wall street, they, they held all the stock in the beginning. That's not everybody.
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Tim Pool
An IPO is.
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Decoy Voice
Well, I mean, they, they had their, their brokers selling it to everybody they knew, and then once it capped out, they all mass sold off just themselves. They had their, like their. What they call.
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Tim Pool
Right.
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Decoy Voice
Holes.
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Tim Pool
Nuke the company and then.
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Decoy Voice
Yeah, I don't know.
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Tim Pool
I, I don't remember that from Wolf of Wall Street. I don't know. I don't know much about it. All I'm saying is it's kind of funny that people are saying she's going to go to jail for a crypto scam.
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Phil Labonte
And why would you do this get rich quick scheme? I mean, that's why. That's why people do like the whole, you know, crypto stuff now. It's like everyone thinks that, oh, you know, bitcoin did it, so this weird token we can get people to buy, blah, blah, blah.
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Decoy Voice
I personally think that she probably got scammed by somebody saying, hey, put your name on this, we'll both get rich. Her not knowing a thing about it. Yeah, possibly she programmed it herself. I don't know, but I doubt it. I know.
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Tim Pool
Or she makes the argument I don't run that X account.
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Ian Crossland
It's H A W is the token. If you want to go to coin market cap and look at the lifetime value of the token, it popped up to 30 cents.
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Tim Pool
Yeah, it's hawk actual.
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Ian Crossland
33 cents. No, 3 cents. Pardon me? 3 cents. And then it dropped back down to 5,000ths of a cent and it's just been barreling at five.
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Tim Pool
Oh, I got to be honest. I mean, if this is true, I Do think she's going to go to prison? Take a look at this. So someone pointed out that her hawk token soared a 500 million before crashing. And she's saying, yeah, nobody's selling. So they list it. They all dump out for 40k and they're basically just stealing money from people.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
Would you consider that a securities fraud? I'm not sure because if you're, if, if it has a utility like you can use the Hawk to a token on hock to a.com and get free pictures from all the Hawk twins, then like there's a utility. But if it just is a token that does nothing and they're selling it, it's a security. And then I don't know what the laws would be with like pumping and selling a security.
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Phil Labonte
But that's illegal.
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Ian Crossland
It should be.
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Phil Labonte
It is, it is the securities. The SEC will have a, have an, have a, an issue with that. They'll have a good significant issue with it.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, it's. It's too easy to do so.
- [93:23]
Tim Pool
Well.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean essentially, if you can, if you can make a token and you can get it onto an exchange and you make a boatload of them, you could just change those tokens for Bitcoin. And the bitcoin's actually valuable, you know, So I mean you have to have a lot of them. If they're, if it's, if the tokens are less, are worth less than $0.01, you're going to need a lot of them.
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Decoy Voice
But still $6 million.
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Tim Pool
Yes. As a popular name in crypto. Haley Welch has launched its Apollo. Okay. Launched its own token named Hawk. While insiders sniped 97% of supply, a newly created wallet sniped 175 million hawk for 4195 Sol worth $965,000 and sold it for $2.6 million for a profit of 1.66. Wow.
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Phil Labonte
I mean straight to a prison once you can get it on.
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Tim Pool
Oh, the rise and fall of Hawk to a girl. She was standing in a street corner and talked about blowing some dude and then six months later she's impressed prison.
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Ian Crossland
I was going to bring her up earlier. We were talking about the pot, the flash in the pan, people getting famous and what they do next, how they, how they maintain it. And I was going to ask do you guys like that girl Hawk to a. Is she doing good with her life?
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Decoy Voice
I thought you did everything the that MFer is not real girl should have done. Remember, she was everywhere. Everybody was talking about it. And then she just waited too long to reveal herself and then do a podcast. Went into irrelevancy. But I guess that's still infinitely better.
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Tim Pool
Than I really do. I think she had a great episode on her talk to a podcast about the inversion of time and parallel realities where time could flow in reverse.
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Ian Crossland
That's so big.
- [94:56]
Tim Pool
Quantum state and entanglement was talk to.
- [94:58]
Ian Crossland
It's called Talk to us.
- [94:59]
Tim Pool
No, the meme is to try is to make a point about something that's like academic and intelligent. That and apply. Imply that she said it because we know she didn't.
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Ian Crossland
I just saw her like on Whitney Cumming show and I saw her be like, I hate men and saying like just as dumb stuff. I was just.
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Tim Pool
But I feel bad for her. She's literally some random. Look, as bad as you can, right? She got. She made a lot of money, but if she goes to prison, I guess I doubt she will. She'll get in trouble depending on. Depending on if this is true and like, what really happened here. It's looking like she just launched some crypto scam. Maybe she says, hey, I don't run that X account. That's not me. It was a business thing. And then if the business did a thing, you go to prison for it. But look, she's some random woman sitting at a street corner and one of these street men on the street dating things is like, what do you want to do for a guy? And she's like, you know, spit on that thing goes stupid viral for dumb reasons. Gets picked up by people who are like, I'll profit off of this. And then all of a sudden, that's who she is forever. But congratulations. I guess she was saying something like her dad was pissed when he found out. Like, I'm not surprised. But if she ends up in prison, I think it'll. It'll. It'll be a nice little bow wrapped on top of this stupid saga.
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Ian Crossland
I'm trying to find out if that's her actual account. H A L I E Y.
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Tim Pool
That's her account. Yeah, I had to pull that name. Hawk.
- [96:12]
Ian Crossland
It's not Hawk. It's H A W. I don't know why it says H A W K. If you want to search coin market cap. It's just haw Hawk is something else.
- [96:21]
Tim Pool
But look at this. Hawk is live four hours ago.
- [96:24]
Ian Crossland
Oh.
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Tim Pool
96% of the token supply has been sniped and it's slowly being sold on the community. Buying this highly speculative coin might result in a loss and high due diligence is Recommended. Yeah. Look at this. She's been promoting this crypto scam. The whole. This is crazy.
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Ian Crossland
She probably has no idea about anything about securities. And she just got. Probably someone came to her and was like, we're gonna make you rich, dude. And she's like, looking. She wants to be an influencer. She doesn't want to work a job. She doesn't want to like, a job she hates. So she's looking for easy money. Yeah, man, just keep.
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Tim Pool
Just. What. What could be the. Like, what's the. What's. Let's steel, man, what she's doing. If this is all true, like, what's the. How do. How do you. Can you even explain it away?
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Phil Labonte
No, I mean, it's like assuming these.
- [97:11]
Tim Pool
These. These blockchain things are correct, she's just committing fraud. Yeah.
- [97:15]
Phil Labonte
I mean, part of me wants to say that she doesn't know, but I.
- [97:18]
Tim Pool
Mean, oh, Bitcoin hit 100k. No, it's all thanks to Hock Tua.
- [97:23]
Ian Crossland
Ever since Trump got nominated. Crypto flying.
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Phil Labonte
It touched it.
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Tim Pool
Oh, it flying.
- [97:28]
Phil Labonte
It touched it.
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Ian Crossland
Like ripple doubled. Ada Cardano doubled. Like, the crypto is blow. It's. It's doing very well since I don't know why.
- [97:38]
Tim Pool
What.
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Ian Crossland
What it was about Trump getting.
- [97:40]
Tim Pool
Wow.
- [97:41]
Phil Labonte
People believe that they will have disposable income. Like, the attitude that people have towards the economy changes when Donald Trump became. Became the.
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Ian Crossland
I bought more bitcoin after that happened. I was. And I bought a bunch of doge too. They key. I keep seeing the word doge on because they're creating this government company called doge. It's always putting that word in the mind. It's a useless token that does nothing.
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Decoy Voice
But it's like, that's too high of a market cap. You can never be worth anything.
- [98:06]
Ian Crossland
It doesn't do it. It's worth 42 cents right now. That stupid token, that was like 100,000th of a cent four years ago.
- [98:13]
Decoy Voice
We're in the meme economy. This is the greatest thing ever.
- [98:17]
Ian Crossland
We're in the age of fiat currency, where money is completely meaningless.
- [98:22]
Phil Labonte
Well, no, I mean, there is something that goes into the mining of bitcoin. It takes a certain amount of energy to mine bitcoin. So there's. There is something that has to be done to get it.
- [98:33]
Ian Crossland
And there's utilities in certain tokens where they can actually instigate smart contracts. And you can like, embed data transfers within the con within the tokens themselves.
- [98:42]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, with.
- [98:42]
Ian Crossland
Just moving a token will cause a program to take.
- [98:45]
Tim Pool
I don't know that it did hit.
- [98:47]
Ian Crossland
It's 99.968.
- [98:49]
Phil Labonte
According to my. According to. According to the thing that I have right now, compared to Tether, it's at 99.9. 100,000 right now.
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Ian Crossland
It's tripled in 10 months. It was 32. 10 months in February. What does that mean for the next 10 months?
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Tim Pool
Because on the. On the pro. So I see it didn't. It didn't hold at a hundred thousand. It came down.
- [99:10]
Ian Crossland
It's a hundred now. A hundred thousand and thirty one.
- [99:14]
Tim Pool
Where. Where do you have that?
- [99:15]
Ian Crossland
A coinmarketcap.com.
- [99:17]
Tim Pool
So it's going up and down.
- [99:19]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it's going up and down. It's up 4.46% in the last 24 hours.
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Phil Labonte
There's. There's like a hundred thousand dollars is going to be.
- [99:25]
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah, there it is.
- [99:26]
Phil Labonte
It's going to be hard for it to actually break and stay over.
- [99:29]
Tim Pool
There it is.
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Phil Labonte
You got it live.
- [99:31]
Tim Pool
There you go. Live, everybody. $100,058. Holy.
- [99:34]
Phil Labonte
There's a lot of people that are selling it. As soon as it gets to 100,000, they're like, you know, you're going to take profits.
- [99:39]
Tim Pool
I think I invested a big amount of bitcoin when it was at a thousand bucks.
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Decoy Voice
Yeah. Oh, my God.
- [99:44]
Ian Crossland
Good move, man.
- [99:45]
Tim Pool
No, it would have been a good move if I did it at $5.
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Ian Crossland
I knew a dude that got it when it was like a buck 90, and he was just. He had to write it down on paper. He was smoking. We were playing poker, and he's like, I got a bunch of bitcoin. Like, how that seems so insecure. He's like, yeah, I remember him just sitting back smoking cigars. And now I. I haven't heard from him.
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Tim Pool
I had. I had. I had about 20. I think I might have had like 30 or 40 Bitcoin when it was at 70 cents. My, my, my. My famous story is that I was hanging out at hackerspace in Los Angeles. It's in Culver City. It's called Crash Space. Singing out, My buddy Jeff sitting on my computer, typing away, and I'm like, hey, Jeff, you see this bitcoin thing? This is 2011. It's like March. And he was like, yeah, I heard of it. And I was like, It's. It's like 70 cents for one of these coins. I was like, hey, look, I got like, five grand in savings right now that I'm not using. What if I just put it in bitcoin and then just. I don't know, just kept it there. He goes, man, it's probably a scam. You're going to give them all your money and then what do you have, Internet points? And I was like, yeah, good point. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but everybody understands if I did that, as soon as that, that, that, that thing hit $5, I'd have sold.
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Ian Crossland
It all out and been like, oh, quintupled your investment.
- [100:54]
Tim Pool
But when we saw the, when I saw a few cycles of the rise and fall, so I remember when it hit 100 bucks, I was like, this is crazy. Bitcoin can't be $100. That's nuts. And Max Kaiser was like, tim, you gotta listen to me. You're gonna be rich. And I was like, okay, Max. And I should have listened to him. But once it got to a thousand, I was like, okay, I don't even care anymore. I'm. Every time it spikes in some ridiculous amount, I just don't have any. And so I was like, I'm just gonna buy a bunch. And then I bought a bunch.
- [101:21]
Ian Crossland
I think the sad, it's a sad reality, but it's also just reality is that the US Dollar spiraling out of control with the inflation indicates that everything is going to go up in value.
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Phil Labonte
Bitcoin, it's, it's solidly over 100,000 now.
- [101:34]
Tim Pool
It's 100,000 and 140.
- [101:39]
Phil Labonte
So there's, man, that, that'll turn that.
- [101:42]
Tim Pool
I'm just.
- [101:43]
Phil Labonte
That'll turn that hundred thousand dollars from resistance into support.
- [101:45]
Tim Pool
I'm just, I'm just going to say this to everybody. Look, I'm not going to give you any advice. I'm just saying when I saw bitcoin at a thousand bucks, I was thinking to myself, like, man, I missed the train. I had bitcoin when I was at $5, when it was at 70 cents, when I was at $20. And you know, when I was at 20 bucks, I sold, I had 21 Bitcoin. I sold it at 20 bucks. And I was like, 400 bucks, dude. I was stoked. Talked to Luke. Luke and I were hanging out in Manhattan and I had like 17 bitcoin. And I was like, I'm just going to sell this. I just want the cash. And Luke was like, I'll buy it. And I was like, sure, whatever. And he was like, I'll give you cash right now. And I was like, okay. And like, here you go, buddy. It's all yours. I'll take the cash and I'll use it for things that I need. You know, at the time I needed the cash more than I needed the bitcoin. So. And that was when it was probably worth like, probably was what, 30 something dollars maybe when I traded it to Luke. And I don't know, I'm not trying to imply that Luke kept it or whatever. You know, Luke's gonna be like, stop telling people about money. But when it hit a thousand, I was just thinking to myself like, dude, it keeps spiking, it keeps going up and it's a deflationary asset. It's it, it can only go away. In fact, I had 20 something Bitcoin on on that laptop and it was destroyed when a sprinkler went off. And I was like, I didn't give crap. The computer was destroyed. It was garbage. I couldn't turn it on, throw it in the garbage. So there's $2 million in a trash somewhere, probably compressed and destroyed.
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Ian Crossland
El Salvador, making it there final point.
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Tim Pool
Just so it hit a th000. I just bought a bunch. And I said, screw it, I'm going to, I'm just going to, I'm just going to buy a bunch. And I did. And oh boy, I bought a bunch. A lot. And I'll put it this way. I'm just saying right now, I look at that hundred thousand dollar number and I'm like, I don't think that number matters. Like when I was looking at a thousand, I was kind of like, man, it's crazy to buy a bitcoin for a thousand dollars. Gonna crash. Then I hit 20k and I was like, then it hit 60k. I was like, oh, now it's at 100k. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
It's not the number, it's the percentage of increase. This is really what you're looking at when you buy that. If you're buying it as an investment, it's the percentage of increase and that's all that matters. You buy 1,100,000th of it and you can buy one of it. It doesn't matter.
- [103:43]
Tim Pool
Here's the Secret in that $5,000 that I had in 2011, I have never spent it.
- [103:52]
Ian Crossland
The $5,000 that you earned, I had.
- [103:54]
Tim Pool
A, I had a savings in 2011 of $5,000. And I was like, oh, it just.
- [103:59]
Ian Crossland
Kept going up from there.
- [104:00]
Tim Pool
That's how you started making your money, right? I never went below 5,000. That's awesome. I had it in my savings, had in my bank. And I was like, this Is for if I'm destitute with no options. But if I need to find food, I'm going to find a way to get food, and I'm not going to touch that money. And so I was eating tortillas with tomato slices and mayonnaise, and I would spend, like, $1.40 on a pack of tortillas, tomato slices, and this cheap Mexican mayonnaise from a super mercado.
- [104:27]
Ian Crossland
Do you think that the Trump administration is going to push to make a bitcoin reserve?
- [104:32]
Tim Pool
They've already been. Look, man, there's been discussions about a U.S. bitcoin reserve. If the U.S. government makes a move and says, we want to invest $500 billion in bitcoin.
- [104:43]
Phil Labonte
Yep.
- [104:43]
Tim Pool
Bitcoin to a million bucks.
- [104:44]
Phil Labonte
Yep.
- [104:45]
Tim Pool
It's going to be nuts. It.
- [104:48]
Ian Crossland
Because we gotta go.
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Tim Pool
No, they're gonna. Super chat. Super chat. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know, Become a member over@timcast.com for that uncensored show coming up, and we'll have you as callers coming in. All right, let's go. What do we got here, Jacob? Holly says, yo, we've been infiltrated. That isn't Tim. He's not wearing the same shirt. And Phil, my God, he's in a criminal. He's a. He's a criminal in zebra clothes. What did you do, Ian? Save us from Cthulhu body stealers.
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Ian Crossland
Okay.
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Tim Pool
You'Re good to go. Says Tim. Where'd you get that jacket? I must have. It's a. It's like a hoodie from Old Navy. I think I got one of those. Yeah, it's like a 20. 19. 19 bucks.
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Ian Crossland
I like that.
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Tim Pool
I had this funny story that I don't care to get too much into, but, like, some crazy guy came out. Like, this is one of, like, I rarely ever have bad interactions with some crazy guy. Came up to me when I was at Cracker Barrel, me and Allison. He was, like, screaming at us because people are crazy. And he was yelling at me for eating at Cracker Barrel. Yeah.
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Decoy Voice
David done well.
- [105:45]
Tim Pool
He says, I'm rich. I'm not supposed to eat a Cracker Barrel, but is that rich people go eat somewhere else.
- [105:50]
Phil Labonte
Cracker Bill's all right.
- [105:51]
Tim Pool
Cracker Barrel is amazing. I was like, what do you mean? It's like, why are you eating here? And I'm like, like, because it tastes good.
- [105:56]
Phil Labonte
It's not good for you, but it's good.
- [105:57]
Tim Pool
No, it's great. I had eggs, and I had catfish.
- [105:59]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, there you go.
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Tim Pool
Breakfast. You get Grilled catfish and eggs with tomato. I get tomato slices, scrambled eggs, and I get fried in corn oil. I pro. It's grilled. So it's probably grilled in some vegetable oil or whatever. But you know, hey, it's fish.
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Decoy Voice
So now you can appropriate classes of food.
- [106:16]
Tim Pool
Now just. Eric, this is, this is, this is the thing. People are crazy. Okay, wow, It's Bitcoin's at 100 since.
- [106:24]
Ian Crossland
We started talking about it.
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Tim Pool
What is going on, dude? A jump of a thousand dollars?
- [106:28]
Phil Labonte
Well, yeah, because people are buying in, they're like, oh, okay, now I'm gonna get it, you know.
- [106:32]
Tim Pool
Well, it was a wall.
- [106:33]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [106:34]
Tim Pool
So what had happened was a bunch of people who bought it. It's a major spike too. So everybody, here's what happens. Somebody buys a bitcoin at 30k. They then put in a sell order saying If Bitcoin hits 100,000, sell it instantly. Everybody did that thinking, well look, I got a bitcoin, but if it's a hundred, I'm happy. So tons of people set 100k as this mental wall. It is really human psychology. What's the number where the average person is going to say I'll cash out 100 grand once that wall finally broke? Meaning every time someone tried to buy, let's say there's a thousand people with a bitcoin and they want to sell it. 100,000. You need 1,001 to set the price above that number. Once they officially sold out of all of the Bitcoin at 100,000, the buy, the demand is going way up. The crazy thing is people have noticed the exchanges don't have bitcoin anymore. The amount of bitcoin available for purchase has been dropping dramatically. I don't know who's. I think governments are buying in. Bitcoin's now at 101,168. I'm not telling you guys what to do. Who knows? I just think it's going to go way up from here. And the, the estimates in the next few months have been around 200k. I am not telling you to buy any of this stuff because that is probably not true. I don't know. But a lot of experts are saying once that wall breaks, what's the next psychological barrier that people are going to say someone's going to put 100K into a Bitcoin and then say, well, if it's 200K, I'm cashing out double my money. Right. 100% return. And so the demand is going to be, be there. People are going to be buying wherever they can. They're going to be spending more. It's going to hit 200k and it's going to pause until it gets over that hurdle again. Yep, we'll see.
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Phil Labonte
But, but the, that the. There is no actual limit on how much a bitcoin can be worth. Worth, like, because it breaks up into people that aren't familiar with bitcoin. It breaks up into like, what is it?
- [108:22]
Tim Pool
Eight decimal points.
- [108:22]
Phil Labonte
Eight decimal points and one. You know, it's called a satoshi, which is the guy that created like if one bit.
- [108:29]
Tim Pool
So if you were to break it down to eight decimal points, the smallest decimal position, we call them sats, or satoshi, after satoshi nakamoto. If that were equal to one penny, if one satoshi was one penny, that means one bitcoin is $1 million.
- [108:44]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it's going to be worth more than that. But that's only because of inflation. It's relative to the US dollar. So if we go up to 70 trillion, then Bitcoin's double all of a sudden.
- [108:54]
Phil Labonte
You're right. You're right. But to some, that's only to a certain degree because right now, like, bitcoin has gone. Is worth way more than theirs inflation.
- [109:02]
Ian Crossland
So it's escalating.
- [109:04]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [109:05]
Tim Pool
So if I bought bitcoin back, way back when, in 2011, for 70 cents, with my $5,000 in savings, I would have $722 million. 320. 722,320,570.
- [109:20]
Ian Crossland
There's a lot of people that are in that position that it just went. Dipped off the map that are like, they don't want anyone to know.
- [109:27]
Tim Pool
So here's the crazy thing about bitcoin. The initial adopters were creepy weirdos and the who wanted to do nefarious things and have a way of exchanging money that people weren't tracking. So they're kind of weird people. And so I know a handful of these, like, seedy underbelly hacker dudes who. I won't say too much about them, but let's just say they're not good people. We call them black hat hackers and they haven't worked in eight years. These are people who are probably worth $100 million right now. And they're just lounging around being like, my life is over. Not in a bad way. It's literally like, I can do whatever I want whenever I want because they wanted to buy drugs 10 years ago. Like, let me just stress that 14 years ago, some dude I know was like, how do I buy drugs on the Internet? And now he's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah, okay, maybe not hundreds, but maybe tens of millions. And it's like, how crazy is that? All right, let's grab some more super chats. Let's go. General Hydra says. Hey, this is the first time doing this. Can you bring on Real America America channels on your podcast next time? What is that?
- [110:27]
Phil Labonte
I don't know.
- [110:28]
Tim Pool
Is that a channel?
- [110:30]
Ian Crossland
Real America. Wait, is that Chase Geyser, Real America News? No, he's got something that sounds like that.
- [110:36]
Tim Pool
All right. Scott Dietrich Jr. Says let the pardons happen and force them to testify under oath without the ability to plead the fifth so they can tell the world what they did. Hearing the truth is more important than the than their jail time. The shame can be the punishment. So my understanding is that even if you have a blanket pardon, you can still be charged with perjury. So you're given. You're given immunity. You still have to testify. Now. Now, you can't plead the fifth because you're immune. You can't self incriminate. If you don't tell the truth and you do lie, you can still be charged. Yeah, because you'd have to be able to.
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Decoy Voice
It's almost better that Hunter Biden has to. He can't plead the fifth anymore because I some doubt how doubt that he is the criminal mastermind behind everything that happened over in Burisma. So have him testify and tell us who was calling the shots.
- [111:21]
Tim Pool
All right, here's one. Alex A. Says, hey, Tim, the quartering said 4 hours ago on YouTube that you're suing Crystal Ball. And. And will your. Well, will you. I think you should have. What does the rest of the group think? Yes or no? I am not suing Crystal Ball. I simply told her she was. I said what you have stated is false and defamatory. And I expect a retraction and apology question now though.
- [111:42]
Ian Crossland
Will you sue Jeremy the quartering for saying that you're suing Crystal Ball?
- [111:45]
Tim Pool
Jeremy, how dare you. That is a false statement of fact. I am suing Jeremy. I'm gonna sue anybody. I don't know. Maybe I'll sue Crystal.
- [111:55]
Phil Labonte
Do it for the lulls.
- [111:57]
Tim Pool
Well, because she. Because she stated definitively that I was told to say things on the show despite the fact that all of the facts of all of the issues surrounding the case. That is absolutely not true. In fact, let me just stress this. Merrick Garland himself said the people who were who had a deal with tenet were completely unaware of what was going on. How could I then be told to push propaganda, not knowing? So the point is, it's false and defamatory, and it's particularly damaging right now because we're in what's called upfronts. This is when people are selling ads. This is right before the year starts. So I would appreciate that apology. Crystal, I am mad. I'm just saying you said something that was not true. I assume you just got it wrong. All you gotta do is say, okay, I didn't realize I was wrong, and that'd be great.
- [112:41]
Phil Labonte
She's a rich leftist. Sue her and then give the money away.
- [112:45]
Tim Pool
Why would I give it away? That's what a leftist would do. Actually, they probably wouldn't. Because she shouldn't have it. No. I mean, I don't know. Look, it's. I asked. I asked for the honorable thing to do. And the question is, does she have honor?
- [112:59]
Ian Crossland
Have we reached out to her for to come on ever on one of the shows? She's a pretty good guest.
- [113:04]
Phil Labonte
Her husband's been on a bunch, right?
- [113:06]
Tim Pool
No, we never had him on. No, no, he agreed to, but then he went nuts.
- [113:09]
Phil Labonte
Oh, okay.
- [113:09]
Ian Crossland
Kalinske bleaching his hair. What's going on with you, Kyle?
- [113:13]
Phil Labonte
Nothing good.
- [113:15]
Tim Pool
All right, Sean says, Tim, if the gunman mounted a suppressor without a booster, the suppressor will make the barrel too heavy to unlock and properly cycle. Someone else pointed out that you can actually modify the weapon so that the gas exits through the front of the gun so it won't cycle the weapon intentionally to reduce volume.
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Phil Labonte
Yep.
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Tim Pool
And so he's using subsonic rounds, a suppressor, and modified it so that it would reduce volume. Implying this dude is a professional. And he probably got on a private jet within 40 minutes and he's already in the Bahamas or something. We got to keep changing the location he went to because, you know, the moon.
- [113:48]
Ian Crossland
He's on his way there now.
- [113:50]
Tim Pool
I don't know if that's the case. Christian W. Says he chambers around every time instead of the gun cycling automatically using a slide lock. Spec ops guys do it when they use subsonic ammo to suppress noise signature to a minimum by canceling the slide noise and gas escape from the ejection port. Interesting. So that's it. That's basically what I saw. Someone else was saying, interesting. Steel toad says 9 millimeters of subsonic round. Regardless, same with.45 would have no effect. That is not correct.
- [114:19]
Phil Labonte
No, 9 millimeter is not a subsonic round because.
- [114:22]
Tim Pool
And I know this because of our good friends over at Phoenix Ammunition. He has a. He intentionally makes lower speed rounds for, I think, like, like competition shooting. And so he had explained this to us that there's, you know, different speeds. But. All right, let's. What else we got here? All right. Al Rum says Google search did Anthony Fauci work for the CIA will bring up a ton of MSM reports as well as alternative media reports that he had a role outside of NIH with a gain of function research. Hmm, interesting. Gary Hardy says let's hear a bit more from Decoy. He's worth listening to if you give him a chance. People are say something.
- [115:02]
Decoy Voice
Thanks for watching.
- [115:03]
Tim Pool
All right. Wow. That was insane.
- [115:04]
Ian Crossland
People are going nuts for you in the chat, man. You got some hardcore fans.
- [115:08]
Decoy Voice
Awesome.
- [115:11]
Tim Pool
Sergeant SGTC says, Tim, these CEOs have veto power over physicians when it comes to prescriptions, life or death decisions. I could die because the CEO said it was bad for money. Indeed. I don't think that warrants going and taking someone's life. Like, we're angry about people dying. If he's a bad person, then let's use the political system to the best of our abilities and change the system. You're not going to change the system with what this guy did. It's not going to happen. It's going to make the system worse. They're going to entrench, they're going to double down. They're going to say, we need more money and more profits because the job is risky. And there's. They're going to hire private security and then the cops are going to be on their side because they pay big funds. Then these insurance companies are going to go to media companies and they're going to say, you're going to put up the message we want because we sponsor you. And they're all going to say, brought to you by healthcare, brought to you by health care. The way you do it is preempt all of those things. You've got to get those strategic lawsuits. We've got to get people, good members of Congress who are willing to challenge these institutions. There you go.
- [116:04]
Phil Labonte
All right.
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Tim Pool
Texas Grin says that SOB Peter Hotes basically came out saying 12125 viruses will be released. Biden often said if people make it through 2025, it's a threat. Yeah. He said hotez, what did he say? That Trump will be like, will be. There'll be like a wave of pandemics or something like that.
- [116:22]
Phil Labonte
Something like that.
- [116:23]
Ian Crossland
Really?
- [116:24]
Phil Labonte
Yeah. Which is. I mean, it's terribly incriminating you know, it. I suppose I didn't actually listen to the, to the bit that he said. So he, it may have been misrepresented, but I mean, look, I don't know why you would even want to say that kind of stuff because, I mean, you're, you're in a. You're. I don't know if you're in an actionable position, but you're definitely in a position where the incoming administration would look at you and be like, all right, well what do you know? And what happened? And you'd be under investigation and they're going to haul you before Congress to talk, you know, to explain why you said that if, if, you know, if, if something does manifest and, and prove you to be right.
- [117:07]
Ian Crossland
Saw him at the top of Twitter, like, of that was a video of him doing it. Was he like giving a warning like, hey, watch out, that there's some shady organizations are going to try and mess you up by releasing viruses, or was.
- [117:18]
Phil Labonte
He like, do not know. Do not know. But I mean, like I said it. Do you really want to be the guy that says, oh, there's going to be a bunch of pandemics coming out when. Right when Donald Trump is. Is inaugurated and then actually have a bunch of pandemics come? I mean, it seems pretty incriminating to me, you know, so.
- [117:41]
Tim Pool
All right. Ham sandwich says flip. Used to make those wave tech boards. Love the them. Can you make those Great. On a curb, even with minimum minimal soap, a no step on snack waveboard would be perfect. So are you talking about the new wave boards where they. That was my first skateboard, actually, where it was like. It was wavy. We can't make those. Those were weird. But the idea was that it would reduce friction with less surface contact and it would be stronger because it was wavy. Don't know if that was the case, though. It was a weird board board. New wave, they always try to do weird things sometimes, huh? Let's go. What is this one up here? What do we got here? Kyle Goodwin says suppressors are NFA items and require a tax stamp for purchase and take time. I'd be willing to bet this was either a swamp sanction, a swamp sanctioned hit, or the suppressor was homemade to avoid the scrutiny. Of course. Or the dude's not from the U.S.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, or the weapon wasn't from the U.S. or something.
- [118:36]
Tim Pool
I. I bet. But look, if this is. This was a. Targeting a CEO for the biggest healthcare provider in the country, probably the world. I don't know, outside of governments, if this job was professional, assuming it was professional, then they probably got a non American. They bring someone in the dead of night by flying him over the border on the south in a single engine Cessna. He goes to New York, gets on a bike, he doesn't care, he doesn't live here, and he's gone. That's it.
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Phil Labonte
Could be, could be.
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Tim Pool
But who knows? Who knows? All right, where are we at? Grand Peppy Frog says Tim, please invite Alex and Jenk for an eight year anniversary of their fight on YouTube. Alex Jones and Jenk u fight. Maybe Elon and Cash would join you too. I was there. Luke and I were at the RNC when Alex Jones was streaming and walked up to the Young Turk set at the RNC and started a fight and Jimmy Dore spat on him.
- [119:28]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
You know, and Luke and I were standing there going like, indeed we were. Those are the days, man. That was. That was almost 10 years ago. That's crazy. Eric F says Taylor Lorenz quit WaPo to become an influencer. Someone should tell her that Only Fans is not an influencer. Influence platform. I mean, I think the joke works better of being. Of being like. She'd maintain more credibility and respect if she went with Only Fans instead of writing that she's raw dogging the air or that. I'm sorry, sorry. That we are raw dogging the air.
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Phil Labonte
Unbelievable.
- [120:02]
Tim Pool
Yeah. You saw the story.
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Decoy Voice
I didn't.
- [120:04]
Tim Pool
She wrote the people who don't wear masks are raw dogging the air in 2024. Yes. She published this.
- [120:10]
Decoy Voice
Yes.
- [120:10]
Tim Pool
Like two days ago.
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Ian Crossland
Alliteration there.
- [120:12]
Tim Pool
Hot dogging. I'm gonna raw dog this spindrift right here.
- [120:15]
Ian Crossland
Oh, delicious. You are just doing it raw.
- [120:18]
Tim Pool
No lifestyle.
- [120:19]
Ian Crossland
Wow.
- [120:20]
Tim Pool
You need a life straw.
- [120:21]
Ian Crossland
You just bare back that spindrift.
- [120:23]
Tim Pool
Raw Dog. You know it's Raw dog. Do you know what a life straw is?
- [120:27]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, I have like six of them.
- [120:29]
Tim Pool
Otherwise you got. You gotta drink all your. You know. She should be drinking her water through a life straw.
- [120:33]
Ian Crossland
She better.
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Tim Pool
Yeah. Otherwise she's not dogging her water.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [120:35]
Ian Crossland
Call her out on Twitter. Oh, she's on blue sky now. I don't think she's on Twitter anymore.
- [120:39]
Phil Labonte
No.
- [120:40]
Tim Pool
Do you know why she's saying these things? It's because her followers click the like button when she does.
- [120:45]
Ian Crossland
That's so sad.
- [120:46]
Tim Pool
It's because they subscribe to her substack.
- [120:48]
Ian Crossland
And like, I want to fix her. I just don't want to live like that.
- [120:51]
Tim Pool
I think she knows she's not, but she's got crazy Followers that pay her bills. It's like, why is Joe Scarborough saying stupid things on msnbc? Because the people who are watching demand it.
- [121:01]
Decoy Voice
So she's like the news version of getting rear ended while you're live streaming and having to recreate that over and over.
- [121:06]
Tim Pool
Exactly.
- [121:07]
Phil Labonte
I think Joe Scarborough says crazy things because Mika got to him.
- [121:11]
Tim Pool
I think it's because they have an audience that they have. So when Donald Trump got elected, CNN and MSNBC were basically like, what's spiking our ratings? Anti Trump. What they didn't realize is that their subscriber base wasn't going up. It was. So this is the thing about YouTube or any social media platform. People will be like, hey, I gained 5 followers today on X. When in reality you lost 50 and gained 55. There's a constant change of who's watching your show. So MSNBC and CNN go full anti Trump. Their normal viewers leave. Anti Trump viewers join, and then once Trump is no longer the narrative, they've got nothing. Now they're just pandering to weirdos. All right, everybody, let's. We'll grab one more quick super chat, okay? All of the super chats are basically saying Bitcoin 100K, Bitcoin 100K. So. All right, my friend, smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Become a member over@timcast.com click join us to become a member. Because that members only show is coming up right now where you as members get to call in. It's a lot of fun, not so family friendly. And we'll talk about some of these others. We got one more story for you coming up. Unknown disease killing a bunch of people in Africa at a time when you got this guy claiming that Trump's gonna have new pandemics. Could there be a plan? I don't know. But we'll talk about on the uncensored show for obvious reasons. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Become a member@timcast.com you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast Decoy. Do you wanna shout anything out? Yeah.
- [122:36]
Decoy Voice
Follow me over at decoy voice. On YouTube, I do a small channel that does concise, slight hoarder commentary on the tragic status of today's reality. And I really appreciate being on.
- [122:45]
Ian Crossland
It was great. And hey, you do something creative, you'll reward yourself and you'll be thankful for it later in life when you look back at this time. See you later. My name's behind me. It's Ian Crossland. I think the eyes cut off though. But there it is. Subscribe to me on YouTube and everywhere else. See you later.
- [123:01]
Phil Labonte
I am Phil that remains on X where you can subscribe to my page. I am Filler remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. You can follow us on, you know, the whole of the Internet. You can check out our new videos for let you go forever cold, no tomorrow divine. It's all available on YouTube, Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
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Tim Pool
We will see you all over@timcast.com thanks for hanging out.
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Phil Labonte
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