Candace Owens OFF AIR, Warns France Trying To KILL HER, Says Feds CONFIRM RECEIPT w/ Hotep Jesus

Summary

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Timcast IRL | Candace Owens Off Air, Warns France Trying To KILL HER, Says Feds CONFIRM RECEIPT w/ Hotep Jesus (Nov 26, 2025)

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Overview

This episode of Timcast IRL tackles the swirling controversy around Candace Owens’ most recent public statements—specifically her claim that the French government is trying to assassinate her, and that US federal authorities as well as the White House have “confirmed receipt” of her report. Tim Pool and his co-hosts, joined by guest Hotep Jesus, break down the implications, describe the wider reaction in conservative circles, highlight manipulation tactics, and discuss what these dynamics mean for the right-wing media ecosystem. Other topics sprinkled throughout included influencer grifting and the shift in conservative media spaces.

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Main Themes

• Candace Owens' public claim of an assassination plot involving Emmanuel Macron, the French Foreign Legion, and Israel
• The manipulation and social engineering techniques behind how such claims are broadcasted
• The lack of direct, public pushback from prominent conservative personalities
• The fracture and infighting within the contemporary conservative and independent media spheres
• Discussion of influencer marketing “grift” scandals on the right
• The bigger media environment: shifting Overton windows, centrist pushes, and establishment efforts to “return to Bush conservatism”
• The importance of emotional resonance and cultural outreach in political messaging

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Segment Breakdown & Analysis

Candace Owens’ Assassination Claim & Media Frenzy

[06:57—16:40]

• Tim Pool lays out Candace Owens’ post, which garnered 6.5M views—a statement blending news of her show’s weeklong absence with a bombshell about a White House-confirmed assassination plot involving Macron and Israeli agents.

  "Starting the post off with ‘our show will be off the air this week,’ followed up by ‘the White House has confirmed receipt of what I reported the assassination attempt.’ This is... social engineering, manipulation 101."
  — Tim Pool [07:57]

• Tim details social engineering tactics, explaining how Owens’ phrasing combines unrelated facts (the show break + assassination plot) to create an assumption while granting plausible deniability.

• Candace’s wording (“confirmed receipt” by the White House) is reframed as essentially meaning someone "read her text" or acknowledged her message—misleading but legally defensible.

  "For many people who don’t understand, it sounds like the White House is confirming in some capacity that what she’s saying is true. What she's actually saying is that she got a read on a text message."
  — Tim Pool [08:45]

• Hotep Jesus and the crew agree: Owens is using language to offload the need for personal proof, implying that others (the White House, intelligence agencies) must prove or dispute her claims.

  "She passes it off on somebody else. If the White House doesn’t confirm it, then they must be getting $7,000 from Israel."
  — Hotep Jesus [12:40]

• Tim criticizes conservative media personalities for not calling out such obvious manipulations, saying they're either scared of her audience or of fracturing the movement further.

  "Sitting back and letting her do two months of shows where she’s now insinuating they're trying to assassinate her and the French killed Charlie and just saying these things... Is this really where the right wants to go?"
  — Tim Pool [14:13]

Social Engineering, Conspiracy Claims, and Conservative Cowardice

[16:40—22:54]

• The conversation pivots to comparing Candace Owens’ tactics to Alex Jones – but notes that, unlike Jones, Candace crafts her stories with built-in deniability and less actual research.

  "Alex Jones is an honest guy... He’s a fun crazy. He’s not a crazy, crazy."
  — Phil Labonte [23:39]

• Tim and the panel discuss plausible deniability in media manipulation, drawing parallels to mainstream media's own tactics of misleading by technically true statements, fake fact checks, and decontextualized quotes.

  "This is a social engineering trick… arrange [quotes] in a way where your assumption... makes it your fault, not theirs."
  — Tim Pool [23:12]

Paranoia and Hypocrisy: Big Conservative Personalities & Allegiances

[25:13—31:59]

• Tim questions why Owens isn’t censored by YouTube or Spotify despite her controversial (often critical-of-Israel) statements, especially in comparison to figures like Nick Fuentes.

• Hotep Jesus and Tim suggest this outsized platform might be because her drama, and her audiences’ drama, actually benefit the system by distracting and dividing.

  "Isn’t it strange that she’s not being censored... and that her own lawyers work out of the same building as the feds?"
  — Tim Pool [25:41]

• Hotep speculates Owens is primarily using Charlie Kirk’s assassination for self-promotion — monetizing the tragedy without the normal respect, forgoing demonetization or charity.

  "If you were really friends and you’re using his assassination for your own benefit and monetizing it… out of respect. She's not doing this."
  — Hotep Jesus [28:26]

Audience Manipulation, Grift Culture, and the Collapse of Political Movements

[31:59—37:34]

• Hotep Jesus offers a ‘theory’ that Candace may escalate to creating increasingly sensational stories—a grift escalation to keep her audience and status.

• Tim confirms, based on insider chatter, that Candace’s wild drama is popular because audiences are hooked on more and more intense, emotional content, especially as average political views and revenues drop in off-election years.

  "People always need the next level. It starts with saying 'Trump is bad,' then 'racist,' then 'worse than Hitler.' Because if they write the same article, nobody clicks."
  — Tim Pool [35:34]

• Hotep jokes about “riding the Candace Owens wave,” mining her drama for his own audience to “get that grift back,” poking fun at the cycle of content grifting.

The Establishment Strikes Back: Barry Weiss, the “40 Yards” of Debate, and Mainstreaming Moderation

[38:36—48:33]

• Tim features a segment about Barry Weiss’ new role at CBS, where she proclaims her goal to “redraw the lines of what falls into the 40 yards of acceptable debate”—seen as an effort by establishment forces to return discourse to centrist, “Bush Republican” territory and exclude populists and anti-interventionists.

  "What happens to Tucker, Hasan Piker, Fuentes, and Candace Owens? The only way you do this is by banning people… working with big tech companies to reduce their footprint."
  — Tim Pool [41:12]

• Hotep and Phil riff on how most Americans have very low reading comprehension and crave simple, sensational content—explaining the mass appeal of both Owens’ style and the wider tabloidization of political content.

  "Only 14% of Americans have a reading comprehension level ninth grade and above."
  — Phil Labonte [43:16]

• Tim jokes mainstream political debate should just be “political fight club.”

Conservative Movement Disarray, Grifting, and Cultural Outreach

[48:33—77:09]

• Tim and Hotep note being excluded from Turning Point’s events—using this to highlight elitism and fracture within conservative orgs, and how establishment pressure is pushing out populists.

• The conversation critiques the right for failing to build cultural bridges—in music, games, or sports—and for attacking anyone who tries (“that’s demonic,” Hotep jokes, quoting a priest who says discouraging cultural evangelism is “demonic influence”).

• Hotep describes how he had to learn to relate to average people through culture (music, food, sports) before ever reaching them politically:

  "If you want to be a great copywriter, read the National Enquirer, read the tabloids, because you have to meet people where they are."
  — Hotep Jesus [74:40]

Influencer Marketing “Grift” & Unethical Endorsements

[78:21—97:19]

• The panel discusses the undignified “grift” culture among some right-wing influencers: shilling gambling sites (often not even available in the US), running undisclosed paid posts, or even producing content on behalf of foreign interests (e.g., Indian policy).

• Discussion on the “Influenceable” platform—used for paid promotion of movies, soda, or even foreign government talking points, sometimes failing to disclose sponsored content.

  "We got these people and they’re, like, Tim, don’t burn bridges… Don't criticize people on the right… I'm like, listen, look where we are, okay? You got people on the right now just shilling gambling websites in China or wherever..."
  — Tim Pool [89:07]

• Tim is especially critical that some promoted “Sound of Freedom” for money, whereas he and others did it because they genuinely believed in it—again, highlighting a major ethical schism.

Food, Health, and Masculinity as Culture War Fronts

[102:11—105:42]

• Brief, lively exchange about soda, nutrition, and health—using this as a metaphor for how influencer grift (e.g., promoting soda to poor people) is both unethical and self-defeating.
• Hotep distinguishes between athletic and sedentary consumption of sugar—turning the conversation into a commentary on marketing, personal responsibility, and public health.

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Notable Quotes

• "I'm not here to try and trick you into believing something. I am going to say it as is. And if people don't want to hear that, that's just too bad."
  — Tim Pool [08:03]

• "She is the Oprah for malls... My term for middle aged white women who are just now getting red-pilled."
  — Hotep Jesus [19:12]

• "If you want to be a great copywriter, read the National Enquirer... You have to connect with people at the heart level first."
  — Hotep Jesus [74:40]

• "If nobody speaks out and calls it out now, the whole thing breaks apart. If no one has the strength to be like, guys, Candace is ripping everything apart for views... This is why the right loses all the time."
  — Tim Pool [31:21]

• "Candace Owens is the new tinfoil person because she's more palatable. She's a mother, she speaks so well... So she's the new Oprah that these women go to for drama."
  — Hotep Jesus [19:12]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Candace Owens’ statement dissected: [06:57–13:12]
• Tim on social engineering & media narrative tricks: [08:03–10:55]
• Panel: Conservative silence about Owens’ spiral and why: [12:40–16:40]
• Comparisons to Alex Jones & manipulation styles: [23:34–25:12]
• Discussion of Candace's ongoing platform vs. censored voices: [25:41–31:59]
• Insider perspective on Turning Point and movement collapse: [31:59–35:02]
• Barry Weiss, CBS, and the establishment “acceptable 40 yards”: [38:36–41:14]
• Influencer grift and unethical endorsements (gambling, India, soda): [78:21–95:14]
• Tim: “We need cultural outreach, not just policy debate”: [72:29–77:48]

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Memorable/Laugh-Out-Loud Moments

• "I could say it like that. Or I can open my show and say, ‘Friends, I am here to tell you that we will be off the air this week. There is something serious going on… But trust me, we'll figure this out and Godspeed.’ You can do that. The government is involved—but it sounds like I'm saying they're trying to kill me."
  — Tim Pool satirizing manipulation [17:16]

• "Candace Owens is... Oprah for malls... She's the new tinfoil person because she's more palatable. She's a mother, she speaks so well—and she was well connected to this whole conspiracy..."
  — Hotep Jesus [19:12]

• "If you only ever invest in being in spaces where people are already conservative, you're not convincing any new people to pay attention."
  — Tim Pool [74:40]

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Panelists’ Final Thoughts

• Candace Owens is knowingly using manipulative language to blend plausible deniability, drama, and self-promotion; few on the right are pushing back for fear of her audience.
• Conservative media is fragmenting under grift culture, attention economies, and a lack of cultural outreach.
• There’s a broader push, via establishment figures like Weiss, to redraw debate boundaries and suppress populist/anti-interventionist voices.
• Influencer grift and undisclosed marketing threatens the credibility of alternative media—even as mainstream media’s credibility sinks.
• Cultural outreach and emotional resonance—not just policy or anger—are needed if the right hopes to reach and persuade “normies.”

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For a full, unfiltered discussion (including spicy asides on nutrition, influencer culture, and more), check out the full episode or the aftershow Q&A on Rumble.

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Transcript

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Candace Owens show is off the air and she has an update. She has confirmed receipt with the White House of the assassination plot from Macron and the French Foreign Legion and Israel. Well, the French Foreign Legion is a collection of various different countries. They're trying to kill Candace Owens. Phil, why are you laughing?

[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So this is the biggest story. It's very important we all talk about it, but the big story is actually the. The post that she made. The narrative she's given the following. She has, but also the press response as of the past day or so has been Candace Owens has gone completely insane and she's being enabled by Personalities who are too afraid to say anything about it. I do think there are a lot of personalities that don't want to just be like, hey, this is a bridge too far, at least a little bit. Because Candace does have a big following. She gets millions of views and people are scared that if they cross her fan base, they'll come after her or something that effect. I'll give you my full thoughts. I don't want to just jump right into it. We got a lot of stories to talk about. Then there's news. A Ukrainian peace deal, which is like, pretty dang important, but we'll talk about that. There's a funny story coming out of the UK that they're going to get rid of jury trials for certain crimes. So, you know, that's how things go when your country is conquered and your people haven't had real legal representation for a very, very long time. And then we'll talk about a bunch of stories that we've had honestly over the past couple of days that we haven't gotten to. The suspension of. Of. Of temporary protected status for Somalis in min has been a big deal. And Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. News is full transparency relatively slow this week, which is why I'm going out to announce to all of you, boy, we're gonna be off the air for the rest of this week. And here's an update. The death threats against me have been so severe that I can confirm. The feds have confirmed receipt of my assessment of these. No, in all seriousness, we're gonna be off for Thanksgiving. But I could do it. I could be like, the death threats against me are very serious. We're off the air this week. I never said those were two related statements. We'll talk about that. We got more coming up. Before we get started, my friends, we got a bunch of great sponsors for you. Let me. It's. It's. It's the. It's. We're about to go off for Thanksgiving, guys. So this is. This is. This is how it goes with everything, right? We're a little slow. We got Tax Network usa. My friends, if you owe the IRS back taxes, they can garnish your wages and levy your bank accounts. They can even seize your retirement or take your home. Don't let the IRS target you. Call the professionals at Tax Network usa. Our tax lawyers and enrolled agents are experts in powerful programs that may even help you eliminate your tax debt. Tax Network USA is A plus rated and has saved over $1 billion for their clients. Amazing. Make sure you go to tnusa.com. tim whether you owe a few thousand or a few million, they can help you. In just one phone call, you can start the process of stopping the threatening demand letters, stopping the aggressive collections, and resolving your tax matters once and for all. But you have to act now while you'll still have options. For a free consultation, call Tax Network USA today at 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com Tim don't let the IRS be the first to act. You gotta call them right now. We also have another great sponsor, my friends. It is. Let me see if I can pull this one up. We got bearskin. You guys know Bearskin? I love these hoodies. It's getting cold out, so I gotta start wearing mine more often. Plus we have the AC on full blast 24 7, so maybe we can start wearing that on the show, right? If you've been waiting to get yourself a hoodie, now is the time. It's officially hoodie season. Cold mornings, windy days, surprise snow. And right now, Bearskin is running their biggest deal of the year. 60% off for black Friday and Cyber Monday. They stain some old fleece. This thing is built with 340gsm bearskin fleece, 10 pockets, a rugged athletic build that actually looks good on you. Plus, if it starts pouring, you can zip on the heavy storm rain jacket and instantly level up to go full waterproof protection. You'll get free US shipping from their US Warehouse and gear that lasts you season after season. If you want to get 60% off, text TIM to 36912 again, text TIM to 369 twelve. They'll send you a link. Click it whenever you can, whatever, at your own convenience. You'll get 60% off. You got to do it now, though. And you're not just buying a hoodie. You're also supporting the fallen outdoors and hope for the warriors veterans program. It's not just a hoodie. It's actually causes that matter. Grab your bearskin while this Black Friday deal is live by texting Tim2369 12 shout out and don't forget to smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else. We've got hotep. Jesus.

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

Here's the big story. We'll start with the post from Candace owens, who's got 6.5 million views on this post as of this morning, with 17,000 retweets saying our show will be off the air this week. As an update, both the White House and our counterterrorism agencies have confirmed receipt of what I reported publicly. Emmanuel Macron attempted to organize my assassination, per a source close to the first couple. Also, I will again state that the French Legionnaires were involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

But.

[Tim Pool]

But they did not act alone. For all of you, for all of you who doubted my claims, you can now look to the President of the United States and our intelligence communities to issue a statement to confirm whether I am telling the truth. I'm just going to start right off the bat and say it. And you know, I recognize there is a challenge in covering a story like this and trying to break these things down and be honest because there are faithful individuals to her and her audience who trust her. And if you approach someone outside of your group as an enemy or at least as an other, they will immediately ignore you. So there. So the first thing I will say is I.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

You learn this working for nonprofits. Any kind of sales rapport is the first and most important thing you have to do to convince someone. However, I will say this to you, my friends. I am not here to try and trick you into believing something. I am going to say it as is. And if people don't want to hear that, that's just too bad. You don't got to listen to me. The first thing I'm going to point out. Point out that the starting the post off with our show will be off the air this week, followed up by the White House has confirmed receipt of what I reported the assassination attempt. This is. This is. We call this in social engineering. Assumptive reasoning, manipulation 101. It is when you Combine, and you guys have heard me talk about this all the time, is when you combine two unrelated statements to make it seem like they are related. The news does this. The corporate press does this all the time. So it would. You get the point. Starting off, I have contacted the White House. They have confirmed receipt of the assassination plot against me with our shows off the air. What I have already heard from people, they believe she's taking her show off the air this week because she fears she's going to be assassinated. She's lying low. That was the assumption she was trying to create with the Post. Now, this also creates plausible deniability where she will then say, I never said that. But I'm going to tell you this right now. As you know, 15 years ago, I'm hanging out hacker spaces. The school of hacking that I was very much involved in was called social engineering, which is basically human hacking. Almost all of the hacking that you've heard of, like a major hack occurred and the grid went down, was not computer code, computer manipulation. It is manipulation of people. For example, what you do is you call an office and don't do this, by the way, but this is one of the things they do. You call an office and say, hey, this is Jim down in it. We're doing some repairs. Is this Janice? And she'll be like, yes, but I need you to do me a favor because we're trying to fix the network. Can you. Is there a black box next to your computer? It is. You see the wire? Is there a yellow wire coming out? Okay, can you read the numbers off the back of that? And they go, sure, what does that matter? And then they've just given you access to the entire network. They've given you the passwords, all of these things. This is what Candace is doing. It's intended to create assumptive. It's assumptive reasoning followed by plausible deniability. There's no reason to make this post followed by the. I can confirm receipt of what I reported publicly. For many people who don't understand, it sounds like the White House is confirming in some capacity that what she's saying is true. What she's actually saying is that she got a read on a text message. She texted someone, hey, you know, they're trying to kill me. And it said, red. And she goes, I got confirmed receipt from the White House. It's all manipulative language saying, the French legionnaires are involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination. I'm going to go ahead and say this. I have no problem saying it, I absolutely might be wrong. Candace may be right about everything. I think she's very intelligent. I think she knows what she's doing. And this could all be true. But I would be willing to bet, let's just call it a handsome sum of money that what she's saying is just completely false. But. But don't take it from me. I'm going to throw it to you guys. I'm just ranting. What do you think?

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[Hotep Jesus]

You can now look to the President of the United States. So wait a second. So Trump is the one that has to confirm her claims, which basically says, oh, I don't have to prove what I'm saying. Yeah, right. She passes it off on somebody else. Right. And she's also playing this game where if the White House doesn't confirm it, then they must be getting $7,000 from Israel.

[Phil Labonte]

Can you imagine if Donald Trump was getting paid to tweet by Israel? This Donald?

[Tim Pool]

Right. Look, I have met a lot of people. I've been talking to some. You know, I'm done being diplomatic. I've been saying that for a while. I've Been talking to a handful of people in and around Turning Point, and particularly about things Candace has been saying, and nobody has the balls to speak out and do anything. You know, when Megyn Kelly was on stage with Ben Shapiro and he said that Candace claimed that Erica murdered Charlie Kirk, Megyn Kelly immediately said, well, I don't watch Candace. I have no idea that she said something like that. And the important thing you gotta consider, I criticize Candace Owens. I also think she's very good and very smart on a lot of things, too. I'm trying to call it like I see it, but on this, I think this is absolutely. This is. This is bs And I think she knows it's bs. I believe Megyn Kelly said what she said because she's afraid of offending Candace Owens, his audience, and Candace herself, because Candace is powerful. With 7 million followers on one platform, 10 on another, getting millions of views per episode. I have. I have no such fears or concerns. And I've talked to a lot of people in and around Turning Point that will tell you explicitly they are reeling from what she is doing. She is causing strife inside and outside of an around Turning Point, but they are all too cowardly to say anything because her audience is big and they feel they'll make it worse. And I'm like, yeah, you probably would. But I'll tell you this. Sitting back and letting her do two months of shows where she's now insinuating they're trying to assassinate her and the French killed Charlie and just saying these things, which are just the craziest things imaginable. Yeah. Look, is this really where the right wants to go? Because I gotta be honest with you, I'm not interested in being part of a movement that won't speak out against this stuff. And you. And I'm going to say this too. Okay. Tucker can interview whoever he wants. I will defend. With this big debate on last Friday and all of these, I guess, like, I don't know what faction you call us. Who are these guys? The conservative side that like, hate Nick. You know what I mean?

[Phil Labonte]

That hate Nick.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, like the people who are saying Christian conservatives. No, it's like, you know, Right. I. I guess, you know, the. You got the Babylon B guys. I'm a fan of the Babylon B. I like those guys. But they're very much like, we will not tolerate these people on the right who are bad, but they'll also. They'll very much tolerate progressives who've done things worse.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

I defended Tucker Carlson's right to interview Anybody? I think Tucker's great. I disagree with him a lot of things. I think Nick is absolutely abhorrent on a lot of things. The Hitler stuff he said. But I also see there's reasons why young people are following him. I think Candace is right on a lot of things, but there are too many people that are just too scared to speak out and call it out. I'm hearing behind the scenes people saying, well, we can't. We can't have infighting right now. It's getting worse. It's getting bad. And I'm like, dude, if you guys want to sit back and just let this happen to the conservative movement, like, by all means, I'm not interested. You know what I mean? I'll go live in a van down by the river. I'll make videos and do commentary on the things that I think are true. But Megyn Kelly then came out and she was like, I reviewed after what Ben said and that was not true. And it's like, listen, any reasonable person can see what Candace is saying and see the implication that either Erica is completely ignorant to the assassins around her who murdered her husband or was in some way knowledgeable or involved in what was going on. The idea that she doesn't know she's saying this is silly. And again, I'm going to say this. I doubt she'll respond to this. She doesn't need to. She's got a bigger show. Right, but starting off a post about how you've confirmed the White House receipt that they're trying to murder you and our show will be off the air. Absolutely. Is an intent to imply I'm going into hiding even though it's actually just Thanksgiving?

[Hotep Jesus]

Correct? Yeah. And to follow up as an update, both the White House and our counterterrorism agencies have confirmed receipt of what I reported publicly. So wait a second. Does that mean somebody at the White House intern hit the like button on a post? Like, what is this? Like, who'd she follow her report with? X Like that's. That's who she followed. Like you're supposed to take this up with the authorities, officially get some attorneys involved. No, she's saying that this ex post or previous exposts are official public reporting.

[Tim Pool]

You know what, man? I'm wrong.

[Hotep Jesus]

What is it?

[Tim Pool]

I'm wrong. I gotta learn this technique, you know, to be fair. Actually, I know the technique. I gotta use it. Because as you guys know, we get death threats all the time. You know what? I don't say there is an assassination plot against me. And I can confirm The FBI is aware and tracking this, right? That is a true statement. Yeah, it is a fact. So in the past couple of months, I've actually, I've shown some of the people the threat only internally, and I've not shared it publicly because it's specific and it's got our address and things like that. But there are several others that are low. There are low tier and high tier, very credible threats. And I have been in direct contact with the FBI over these threats. And this is true, though. And they have told me that they're tracking this, this down and that they believe they, they might know this person is. And I'm like, okay, just do your thing.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

I could say it like that. Or I can open my show and say we're going on. Friends, I am here to tell you that we will be off the air this week. There is something serious going on right now that I can't speak too much about. But there's an active assassination plot against me. I have no choice. I have been in contact with the FBI. They have confirmed these are credible threats and there is an active plot. And I will tell you this. The government is involved, so I won't be around for the next few days. But trust me, we'll figure this out and Godspeed, you know, you can do that. Now here's, here's the important thing. The government is involved. The government is involved in tracking down the threats.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

But it sounds like I'm saying they're trying to kill me. You see? You see, we can play these games all day and night, and you know what? You get views from it.

[Hotep Jesus]

The great news is if you did do that, you'd be nominated for a grifty. You'd be. You and Candace would be fighting for the grifties.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I can't beat her. Come on. Bridget McCrone is a man.

[Hotep Jesus]

That's what I was wondering. I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, okay, so this is hard hitting journalism here that you're telling me a foreign leader just so happens to have a phallus. Like, this is.

[Tim Pool]

What am I supposed to.

[Hotep Jesus]

Like, what am I supposed to do with this information as a viewer? Like, is this. It's not America first, it's not America only. It's not maga. It's not right wing, it's not conservative. It's not politics. It is just straight up National Enquirer. Which leads to my next point. Candace Owens is the Oprah for malls. Okay, so malls is my term for middle aged white women. So you Got a bunch of these middle aged white women who sitting at home who are just now getting red pill. Right. So instead of going to Alex Jones who I believe Candace Owens is being used to just drown out like we haven't heard from Alex. Right. But because Candace Owens has, has basically put a cloud over his name. But she comes in and now she's the new tinfoil person because she's more palatable. She's a mother. She speaks so well and she was well connected to this whole conspiracy around. So she's the new Oprah that these women go to for drama.

[Tim Pool]

It's true crime.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, it's trauma.

[Tim Pool]

Let me jump to this story we've got. I'm actually just going to jump to this one actually. Yeah. This is a Post editorial board. Check this out. This is how crazy things are getting. It's in the New York Post. This is the Post editorial board from yesterday. French Israeli hit squad as Candace Owens spirals into lunacy. Blame the digital media cesspool. Can someone who cares about Candace Owens please get her to a psychiatrist? Then again, the millions of viewers who are lap up her crazed content could probably use a head check too. In the next post Saturday, Owens claimed that high ranking employee of the French government had warned her that President Emmanuel Macron and First Lady Bridget McCrone have executed upon and paid for her assassination. And the kill squad includes at least one Israeli. She's losing her last pinky finger hold on reality. These paranoid delusions of grandeur are no surprise to anyone who's been paying the slightest attention to Owens decline. She's been claiming last year that Bridget McCrone was born a man and the McCrones are part of a pedophilic cult called the Frankists that founded Israel and even suggested that Bridget may actually be Emmanuel's biological father. Along the way she also fanned the flames of the crazy conspiracy theory that Israel had something to do with the assassination of her one time friend Turning Point USA co founder Charlie Kirk. One time friend, I think that they didn't need to put in there. They were good friends. When I was at Turning Point last year and not even last year, they had a poster of Charlie and Candace together. And this is after Candace had stopped doing events for tpsa. They were friends, that's a fact. In other words, Candace Owens has gone full Alex. You could pull this back up. Hannah Sons has gone full Alex Jones. Now that that is wrong. Alex is not this crazy and it sure draws eyeballs. Her YouTube has 5.6 million subs 7 point million followers on X the first episode in a Macron series, Becoming Bridget an introduction, got 5 million views. Guys, Candice is really good at social engineering. She's really, really good at it. In the previous segment, for those that are just tuning in, we discussed how you use manipulative. Manipulative. Manipulative language. Right. And the corporate press does this all the time. One example I like to give of how the media lies and manipulates you is the fake fact checks where Donald Trump will eat a bowl of. He'll give a scoop of ice cream to a needy child. Everyone will see the video and they'll cheer on, say, this is Donald Trump being magnanimous. And then you'll find Snopes or some other fact checker will write an article saying, did Donald Trump give a needy child ice cream on Sunday? False in big block letters, the big red X. And then the first paragraph, it says, many people, you know, are sharing a story about Donald Trump. And then you'll, once you get all the way to the bottom, buried, it'll say, while Donald Trump did give a needy child ice cream, it was not.

[Hotep Jesus]

On Sunday, it was on Monday.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. They add a tiny detail which negates the story. This is. This is a social engineering trick they do. Another thing the corporate press does is they'll take quotes you've said and arrange them in a way where your assumption of the issue makes it your fault, not their fault.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And we never said, you know, so they write a story saying, hotep, Jesus was seen suspiciously entering the building, Period. A man was then found dead. And you're like, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on. You know, it's like they're intentionally framing it as though those two things are related when they're not.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, I just robbed the place.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. He didn't kill anybody.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Did you find him or did you do it?

[Hotep Jesus]

You know, he was there when I was there.

[Tim Pool]

What you. What you get with Alex Jones? Alex Jones is. Is an honest guy.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He. He takes a lot of heat from people because he calls them out. And he's a different.

[Hotep Jesus]

He's a fun crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Hotep Jesus]

He's not a crazy crazy, but he.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Also just reads the news. Everything's predicted is a lot from news.

[Tim Pool]

And research, and people are surprised because he's reading the news. But a good example is he's turning. When he said, they're turning the freaking frogs gay. See, here's the thing. Everybody called him crazy. He was talking about atrazine, a chemical leaching into groundwater, which was interfering with the endocrine systems of frogs. Now, I believe, like 10 years later, counter studies came out that says, we don't know if that's actually true, that Etronin did this. But in his whole segment, he's like, you look at what's happening with the chemicals in the water and these studies, and then he gets angry and goes, they're turning the frigging frogs gay.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Candace just comes out and she uses this assumptive reasoning manipulation to say things like, you know, she'll say, I've vetted this report, and here's what it says. And it's like, whoa, whoa, hold on now. What does vetted mean? So here's. I'll give you a good example. She. She made that claim. She said that she received a source that said that at 920 King street or whatever in Delaware that these feds were seen coming from this airport, from this plane to this building. And then it. And, and what she never explained to people is that that's actually the address for her lawyers. So the question I had, because I was talking to some normies, I bumped into some normies, and they're like, I don't know, man. Like, she, she makes a lot of sense. I'm like, hold on. They. They mentioned to me, but these planes were. These vehicles were leaving the planes. And I'm like, she never said. She confirmed that. She said she vetted the person and then she read the letter, and she never confirmed what was that in the letter was true.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

She confirmed the address was used by the feds and then didn't confirm whether or not there were actually feds going to the airport and boarding the plane. That she said. So she's creating. She's. She's saying, I vetted this here's address. They said car drove from plane. And the assumption the person is meant to believe is that the feds drove to that airplane, which she never confirmed. But I'm going to say this. How come nobody. I brought this up last night. How come nobody is asking whether or not she's involved?

[Hotep Jesus]

She's a suspect.

[Tim Pool]

But hold on. Like, honest question. I don't know about suspect in. In. In Charlie's murder, but isn't it strange that she's not being censored by YouTube despite as critical of Israel as she is or Spotify or Apple, and that her own lawyers work out of the same building as the feds?

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

How come no one's talking about that? And that's an honest question. I'm not trying to make you assume anything. I'm saying for somebody who claims that you can't criticize Israel. She also brags she has the number one podcast worldwide. She's propped up on YouTube with millions of views and the other podcast platforms with no takedown. Nick Fuentes is banned across the board. And then she accidentally points out that her own lawyers are registered at the same address as the feds. She had a response to this, that it was just a registered agent.

[Hotep Jesus]

Well, no, that's what the Internet sleuths. The Internet sleuth said that they pulled the address for the McCrone case and apparently that her attorney's office has a registered agent at that address. Which happens to be the same address as the feds. Right. FBI and other high level intelligence agencies, et cetera, et cetera. Right, but we gotta zoom out and use Candace's logic. If you're using Candace's logic, who's benefited the. Oh, hey.

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[Hotep Jesus]

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[Hotep Jesus]

Cmno.com the most from Charlie Kirk's assassination spin Candace.

[Tim Pool]

Her show's number one.

[Hotep Jesus]

Her show's number one. TPOSA is in just utter dismay at this moment. So TPOA has to be taken off the table as a suspect. And we have to look at Candace because all she's done was. And this is messed up too, because if you were like, really friends, like you toured the country with Sky. If you were really friends and you. And you're using his assassination for your own benefit and monetizing it like, we just lost a great guy, Daniel. Daniel Narditsky in the chess world. Right? And most of the chess guys, when they covered Daniel, they took the monetization, either turned it off on a video or donated it to Daniel's fund. Right? That's out of respect. She's not doing this. She's not taking the money. She monetized sponsors or YouTube, I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

But she's got YouTube ads and like mainstream normal sponsors. Right? I got to say, dude, I remember share that. You don't got to do anything. I'm not going to make that argument. I'm just wondering why it is that Nick Fuentes got deleted from Spotify and she's. She's propped up and YouTube blasts her out to everybody.

[Hotep Jesus]

It's very suspicious, honestly.

[Phil Labonte]

I think part of the reason is because Nick, the way that he frames things is very trolly and, and like, it's very, like a lot of times he'll be caustic in the, in the things that he says. So as. Even though there are arguments that. Or there are. There are topics that Candace and Nick, will. Will both cover. The way that Nick covers stuff, Will. Will kind of put people off, whereas Candace doesn't so much.

[Tim Pool]

And to be fair, Nick is largely getting banned off things he said in the past.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, right.

[Tim Pool]

You know, especially about how he likes Hitler and all that stuff.

[Hotep Jesus]

Sure, that's a fair assumption.

[Tim Pool]

But. But I do want to stress this too. The argument being that if you, like, if you criticize Israel, you. You will get silenced. Candace's show is way bigger than Ben Shapiro's.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

They're like, YouTube is giving her every grace. And the other, the other issue too is too. This is actually, I believe, conspiracy content was demonetized a long time ago. Like, with all due respect to whatever, you know, Candace is arguing, and I mean that literally because she. Maybe she's right about stuff. What do I know? But she's not coming out and saying, I can prove X. She's saying, I believe Bridget McCrone's a man, which is you can't prove. Like, what are you gonna do?

[Hotep Jesus]

Pull a dress up?

[Tim Pool]

Didn't. Didn't Bridge have to do that? Like, went to a court and, like, actually did that or something?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I think they did some kind of test. I heard they did some kind of test on her.

[Tim Pool]

That's crazy.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

On her to prove that she was wrong.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. You know, what I will say is there is a good point you made about tp USA is. Is absolutely reeling, and nobody wants to say anything publicly because everybody. I don't know what. I don't know. You know, look, man, I've been talking to a handful of people behind the scenes, and I'll give them some respect by not saying their names, but everyone's very pessimistic, and their concern is that. And I said it before, I'll say it again. Turning Point's not going to make without Charlie.

[Hotep Jesus]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Behind the scenes, everybody's like, of course. Then on camera, most people are just like, well, you know, like, yeah, well, you know me, dude. If nobody speaks out and calls it out now, the whole thing breaks apart, right? If no one has the strength, just be like, guys, Candace is ripping everything apart for views. And there. There needs to be. I don't know, man. I don't know how you, how you help Turning Point without Charlie. That's. That's just the reality of it. But if everybody just wants to be quiet and pretend, this is why the right loses all the time. The Washington Generals Democrats of the Harlem Globetrotters, they're. They got plans for blowing up trucks and shooting people. And the right is like, don't say mean words.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Just real quick on the chat TPT thing they did. Nothing publicly has been disclosed. I just wanted to correct that fact of my Bridget McConnell McCrone. Nothing publicly has been disclosed.

[Hotep Jesus]

No.

[Tim Pool]

There was some story about Bridget McCrone going before a court and like, a.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Court, but nothing publicly. But anyways, yeah. The right has been known for years of letting gender aisle, gender ideology come. Men's and women's sports. The right's always been soft on everything. They've let the left take over on a lot of institutions. The right is known for playing, letting them get stomped on and stepped over.

[Hotep Jesus]

I got a thought experiment.

[Tim Pool]

Do it.

[Hotep Jesus]

You ready? About Candace Owens. And then I'm gonna tell you my theory. So she went from Macron is walking around with a phallus to the greatest thing that happens to her career is Charlie Kirk's assassination. Which is so sad to say, right to now she's the victim of assassination, where she centered herself. The question I have for you guys is what's next? What's next? What's the. Cuz, you know the assassination thing's gonna fall apart, right? This is a whole thing. She's gotta move on to the next big story because last week she got trolled it, found out the address was her attorney's office, and what does she do 24 hours later? Oh, my God. I'm. Assassination. To distract you from the fact that she just exposed the fact that her attorney's office is allegedly a registered agent in the same offices as the feds.

[Tim Pool]

But hold on. Next for her, this is an important distinction. Where did that line come from that it was a registered agent? Because according to the lawsuit, they served her lawyers at that address.

[Hotep Jesus]

At that address.

[Tim Pool]

So that's not. I don't know that that's just a registered agent.

[Hotep Jesus]

That is the office actually there.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it listed individuals, Right. That were served at that address.

[Hotep Jesus]

Correct.

[Tim Pool]

So I don't know that it's just a registered agent. What my understanding was is that it's just a. It's a big office building with many offices and the feds work there and other law firms.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's very plausible.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I just think it's interesting that.

[Hotep Jesus]

Either way, it's tied to the attorney.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, interesting question. And my question for those, for the people that are just. They just believe Candace is correct all the time. Ask her about it. You know, if she's got nothing to hide. She's. She's talked about Turning Point, she's leaked text messages.

[Hotep Jesus]

She's not going to address it. She's not going to address it. She. She. She plays games. She's going to sidestep, dodge anything, and then distract and move on to the next thing. Here's the next thing that's coming. You ready? Option A, this. I. I stole this from Jeff Charles. She's going to start a cult. Okay. I don't know Jeff Charles.

[Phil Labonte]

I am here for it.

[Tim Pool]

Are you saying she's the Antichrist? Quite possibly.

[Hotep Jesus]

Quite possibly.

[Tim Pool]

You know, that's giving her a lot of credit.

[Hotep Jesus]

So I was like, wow, that's a really good take. What I think is she might actually fake something. Yo, she's that crazy. She might, like, jump in the back of a vehicle with some footage and actually, like, fake a kidnapping or I got to a car accident, some lady hit her. It was an assassination attempt. She, I'm just guessing here, just speculating. She might accidentally create her own false flag.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

She's gonna be in this.

[Hotep Jesus]

Where do you go? That's the only place you go from here that's gonna make this a bigger story than something.

[Tim Pool]

As I mentioned, there's a lot of conversations that are happening behind the scenes with prominent personalities in the independent media space. Libertarian, conservative, et cetera. And I spare drawing people into drama. That's why I'm not gonna call anybo out. But I've been talking to a lot of people and I've mentioned this over the past week or so. Everybody knows that views right now in politics are in the gutter.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay?

[Tim Pool]

Candace is doing very, very well, though, right? And I think, you know, look, if you want to get my professional marketing assessment of this, you take a look at some of these prominent personalities, and I'm not, I don't want to denigrate, so I'm not going to name them.

[Hotep Jesus]

But.

[Tim Pool]

But guys, I'm telling you this right now. Go on YouTube, pull up conservative, whatever conservative personalities that you've heard of, look at their view count, and you'll see they've dropped dramatically. You'll all see Candace is doing pretty dang well. The conversation behind the scenes, everyone knows why. It's exactly as you've described. If people always need the next level. We've talked about this in the past about how they call Trump Hitler. It starts with saying, you know, Trump is bad, then Trump is racist. Then Trump is very racist. Then he's the most racist. Then he's almost as bad as Hitler. Then he's as bad as Hitler, Then he's worse than Hitler. Because if they write the same article, Trump is racist, nobody clicks it. So they got to give you a. It's. The hit's got to get bigger. You don't feel it anymore. Behind the scenes, everybody is pissed off because they're like, I wish I was as evil as some of these people, where I can just lie to get the views. But if you make a video where you're like, marjorie Taylor Greene resigns, here are my thoughts. Everyone knows, bro, Everyone knows Marjorie Taylor Greene's resigning. So why are they gonna watch you over anybody else? As more people enter the space and we're, we're all, we're at the back end of a political year which was 20, like where this year is ending and it was a non political year. Views are going to be in the gutter, revenue is going to be down and people are going to be feeling it. You got two choices. Stay true. Dance with the ebb and the flow. Next year's midterms views will start increasing. For political content. I'm sorry, you got three choices. Pivot and try and do non political stuff, cultural stuff that may be of general interest. I think we've tried doing that quite a bit throughout the past several years, knowing the cycle. So that's, that's why some of our videos, like Solar storm videos like 200,000 views, but we've always had those guests on your third option. Roll with it, baby. France wants to kill me. There's an Israeli in it. The White House knows I'm fleeing. And then what happens next? You made that point. What's the next degree? Jump in the back of a van screaming. And live streaming.

[Hotep Jesus]

There's another option. The option I've chosen.

[Tim Pool]

Retire.

[Hotep Jesus]

No, absolutely not. What we're talking about is riding the Candace Owens wave. If Candace Owens a wave, then I'll just grift Candace Owens. I gotta get my reparation somehow. Okay, if the views are down across the board and Candace Owens got the views, then I'm gonna talk about Candace Owens. She gotta give me some of those views. I need some of those views. She's hot right now. I need, I need my payback.

[Tim Pool]

Let me watch that.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

What are people going to watch that you talk?

[Hotep Jesus]

Been working for me. There you go. I've been rigging the algorithm on X. Just Candace Owens. Oh, is she hot right now? I'm just typing Candace Owens and people like, oh my God, you got 7k. I'm trying to get 7k from Elon after this post. That's what I'm trying to do.

[Tim Pool]

What you do is you start your ex post of saying like, did you see Candace Owens question mark? And then under it put, hey guys, I'm. There's a, there's a bar meetup, you know, come hang out, there's burgers. And then everyone sees it and they're like, what's up with Cannes? You'll be like, oh, I don't know. I just put it in there because they're going to, they're going to, they're going to share with. For some reason, big tech platforms are going to share the name Candace Owens with you.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

They want you to watch your content. They want you to watch content critical of Israel. I, I'm going to say this something about, you know, anti Zionist content from Candace. YouTube really, really wants you to watch. She is not being silenced. Let me, let me jump to this next story though. This is all, it's all connected, right? We got this from Drop Site News. Barry Weiss says she wants to use her new perch at CBS News to redraw the lines of what falls into the 40 yards of acceptable debate. You guys ready for this one? This is what it means to get hired by cbs.

[Barry Weiss]

All of us see that. The choices that it feels like we have sometimes, which is Hasan Piker and Tucker Carlson or Nick Fuentes and, you know, Andrew Tate, the kind of people that are rising in the podcast charts, those don't actually represent our values and I don't think that they represent the values and the worldview of the vast majority of Americans. And so this is an opportunity to speak for the 75% for the people that are on the High interest debt.

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[Barry Weiss]

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[Tim Pool]

I just want to say, as an aside, I really hope she's drinking wine coolers. You see those right there? Right there in the bottom right? I doubt it, but it'd be cool. Here's, here's my, here's my, here's what.

[Phil Labonte]

I think it's water.

[Tim Pool]

Have you guys seen the articles that the Republican Party is trying to shift back to Bush conservatism?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No. Terrible.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think that's what they're trying to do. I absolutely do. When, when Bari Weiss talks about, you've got Hasan Piker and Tucker Carlson, I'm like, what about Tucker Carlson? I mean, critical of Israel or something. I mean, his last few shows have generated a lot of controversy. But before that, I would say maybe in like the past six months before that. His body of work is not really that outside of the conservative norm. What I think we're going to see when she says the center left in the center right is a return to the Bush conservatism and the Kerry Democrat types, that's the uniparty machine they want and these worldviews that exist outside of it are going to be excised out. She just got hired by CBS to basically run their, their news team. I think, I think this was kind of the business pitch she had the whole time. The news organizations all went super woke and crazy, start a new one, be fairly moderate, left, still liberal. Then once they fail, because they will, we make the pitch, we go in, and then we decide what is going to be the acceptable 40 yards in the debate. So the question then becomes, what happens to Tucker Hassan, Piker Fuentes and Candace Owens? Because the only way you do this, the only way you redraw the lines, is by banning people, is by shutting them out, refusing to book them, and working with big tech companies to reduce their footprint. Because if people are on YouTube and they're getting promoted, that means your only option is to go to YouTube and say, Stop promoting them.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah. Well, here's the issue. She's Jewish, so her IQs is way too damn high. Okay? That's the first problem. The majority of people in America can't read. Okay? They can't read. There's an article about like, that's true, like 85 of Americans read past, like a fifth grade level.

[Phil Labonte]

You can read a little bit, but like reading comprehension.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah. Somebody look up, look up and tell me what the stats are. What, like grade level they can read past. Right. So the issue is you have somebody like Candace Owens who can't read past the fifth grade level herself. Right. So she's going to relate to the fifth graders, the grown fifth graders in the world herself. Right. Now you bring somebody like Alan Dershowitz and Dana Loach, they start talking. I'm enjoying myself because they're intellectual people. I want to hear intellectual thought. But they're talking way over the head of the average American. So they're going to turn that off. And they'll say, where's some sensationalism? Where's some small brain content that I can actually understand? That's the issue with the world today.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, there's a reason why the View is such a.

[Tim Pool]

Only, only 14% of Americans have a reading comprehension level. Ninth grade and above.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Boom. Wow.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Well, it's Like Baltimore kids can't read, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Oh my God, totally.

[Hotep Jesus]

This is where we're at as a country.

[Tim Pool]

So if you.

[Hotep Jesus]

This is why Trump does so well. Because he talks within that vocabulary.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. Of course.

[Hotep Jesus]

Anybody who talks within that vocabulary or is dealing in small brain content, sensationalism, you know, tabloid stuff, that's what the hoy polloi want to listen to because they can understand it. They don't want to hear me talk about cipher mining and how that makes big stock to blow up.

[Tim Pool]

This establishmentarianism.

[Phil Labonte]

To your point, like, this is something that we talk about, you know, around, around the table a lot. Like, no one cares how the sausage is made in D.C. right? No one cares about the process. They want to see results. They want something that actually, that hits them emotionally and satisfies whatever.

[Tim Pool]

I got it.

[Hotep Jesus]

They want to see Macron sausage. That's just the fact.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, I figured it out. Perhaps. I figured it out. Guys, we're doing this all wrong with the culture war debate show. Okay, let's just, let's just. Octagon, baby.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Tim Pool]

Just liberal versus conservative mma. Like, guys, nobody cares what you think. We all know, we all agree with the conservative. You all agree with the liberals. They're gonna box.

[Hotep Jesus]

Just let them. Fight.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Club.

[Tim Pool]

Fight club. Political fight club. I mean, I know people do this.

[Hotep Jesus]

You got to do it like the chess, right? You debate one round, one minute round, and then you hop in the octagon for a minute and then you come back and debate and then you fight.

[Tim Pool]

You got. I got to be honest, I think like the liberals will just get absolutely destroyed, more than likely because, like, people who work out tend to be right leaning just because they understand the value of hard work.

[Hotep Jesus]

But gays work out too, so. Yeah, but one of those gay guys, you know, gays got superpowers, so I.

[Tim Pool]

Don'T think, I don't think the majority of gay people. I'm sorry, the majority of gay people are definitely left leaning, but I don't think a strong majority as it used. As much as it used to be.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right, right.

[Tim Pool]

Because you've got Brandon Strock, you got Scott Pressler, you got a bunch of gay dudes on the right.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah. And Scott press is about 8ft tall, so. Yeah, definitely gonna whip some ass.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but he's also so slim.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

I think he's like Mr. Fantastic. He can like wrap around reach, man.

[Phil Labonte]

He's got that reach, you know, you got to get inside and he can hair whip you.

[Tim Pool]

You ever see that when you Whip the hair.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like, that's what Black Widow did in Avengers.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah. And even if they're like fat dudes, you know, they're working blue collar for the most part, on the, you know, on the red side and non. So they can kick butt, too.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to let. Let me just burn every bridge that I can.

[Hotep Jesus]

Please just do it.

[Tim Pool]

I've been having some conversations behind the scenes. I've said it 50 billion times. There are a lot of people asking me about what's going on Turning Point usa, Like, why we weren't invited and all that stuff. And, you know, obviously, like, already people are. There's some tension there. But we didn't get invited. They had filled the slot we normally use for private. But who just doesn't already know this?

[Hotep Jesus]

Wait, wait, time out. You got to repeat that again. What'd you say? Say that in my good ear.

[Tim Pool]

They filled the slot. We normally.

[Hotep Jesus]

You got uninvited from tpusa.

[Tim Pool]

It's not that we were uninvited. We weren't invited.

[Hotep Jesus]

You were not invited. Yeah, but you were there previous years.

[Tim Pool]

We were out of. I think they've done. They've had four years.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

We were there for the past three.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, wow. Consecutively.

[Tim Pool]

Consecutively on stage doing Tim Cast IRL in our normal time slot.

[Hotep Jesus]

And so it sounds like to me you got snubbed, but continue.

[Tim Pool]

So what? So here, here. Here's the point is over the past couple of months, we've been reaching out, being like, just let us know when, you know, like, what the schedule is going to be, like, what we need. And they're like, no, we got you. Don't worry. Everything's. The plan's the same. Don't worry about it. And they actually knew months in advance that they had filled our. We weren't going to be invited. And instead of telling us, they just said, we're working on it, working on it, until finally the response I actually got was, you know, we weren't going to have you, but maybe we can try and make this work. They were mad. They claimed it was because of something I said, which is not true. And then I just said, look, we're not playing this game. The reason I bring this up is my honest assessment. They've since invited us back and, you know, and with respect to the guys over there, you know, Jack Posobic is a great friend. He's a good dude. I respect him tremendously. They've said, we're gonna make this work. We don't want you to Miss out. This shouldn't have happened. All these things. And you know, even now I would say this has been a detriment to our working relationship. But for the most part, it's like, guys, we're not a part of TP usa. We, we, we go there once a year for the big end of the year thing as part of this movement and they don't want us there. And now the question is, what's going on? Well, the Barry Weiss video pretty much shows exactly what's going on. There is an effort, in my view, from the highest levels of donors, politicos at all these organizations, to bring it back to Bush level politics. We want the Bush Republicans, the Kerry Democrats. We want Romney Obama. We want McCain Obama. Why? Both of those parties represented foreign intervention. And during the Bush years, you, you, if you were not in favor of these interventions, something was wrong with you. Yeah, there was only a marginal difference. Now I'm totally fine. I like the idea of us coming together as a country and only having marginal differences. However, I believe the actual play that we're seeing and the future of Turning Point, and it's not to single out Turning Point, but this is a great example is libertarians get iced out, anti interventionists iced out as they've always been.

[Hotep Jesus]

Center.

[Tim Pool]

The center is going to be the battlefield for the most part. Like, Barry is talking about the acceptable 40 yards, but they want the acceptable conversation to be, well, of course we support war in Ukraine, of course we support funding Israel, but abortion is wrong. And the Democrat says, well, of course I support funding Israel, but I think abortion is good. They need to isolate the voices that are either populist right or populist left and bring back that unit party. And I think that's where the money's gonna be going. So again, behind the scenes, I'm talking to people and I don't wanna spill the beans on anyone's private business, but let me just say there are several examples outside of just us, outside of us not being there, of where it very much seems like this is the case, particularly with Turning Point. A great example is, of course, Candace leaking those messages where there was, there was animosity over whether or not Tucker Carlson should be invited back, but he's too big. You can't just remove him. And I will also add this, the funniest thing I think I've had three reporters reach out to our PR team being like, we want to talk to Tim about what's going on with the rift on the right and they know way more about this than I do. They're calling and saying, what do you think's going on? And then they're telling me, here's what we know and here's what we've heard. Can you confirm this? And I'm like, I did not know that. I can't confirm that. But that's crazy. Where are you hearing that? And it's crazier than we realize. Basically, it sounds like powerful donors pro Israel.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay?

[Tim Pool]

Democrat and Republican. They don't like the anti Zionist right, the anti interventionist right, the libertarian right. They want the Republican party to be suit wearing neoc Neoconservative and they want the Democratic party to be suit suit wearing neoliberal and they want the Hassan pikers and Tucker Carlson's gone. And it's exactly what Barry is telling us.

[Hotep Jesus]

Wow. Was that during your secret Illuminati meeting that you do?

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm not invited though. Did you hear anything? They kicked me out.

[Hotep Jesus]

This is a disgrace. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you ask yourself, when was the last time you read a book, a nonfiction book? Ask yourself honestly. And I'm going to take this opportunity to tell you here's a really difficult book to read mine. Brian Sharp. Go get the Patriot Report on Amazon Unmasking the Conspiracy of Money War. The Patriot Report Unmasking the Conspiracy of Money War. If you can read that, it is not written at a ninth grade level. But if you can read that, you got to give yourself a pat on the back. We've got to get people. Make America read a grant. Make is Mara. Make America read again.

[Tim Pool]

See all these books? You see all these books there?

[Hotep Jesus]

Look at all these books.

[Tim Pool]

You see all those books? Read them all. I've not read a single one.

[Hotep Jesus]

You haven't read a single one?

[Tim Pool]

A single one.

[Hotep Jesus]

You are a liar.

[Tim Pool]

I have not read a single one of these.

[Hotep Jesus]

You didn't read the Scott Horton one. Enough already. I read that one.

[Tim Pool]

Is it good?

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, it's amazing. Oh, that's a good book. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What I got, I got no time for reading books. But I do read a lot of articles.

[Hotep Jesus]

But you've read. You're not like.

[Tim Pool]

But.

[Hotep Jesus]

But it also read past a ninth grade level. Like you don't need practice reading. You've read enough in your lifetime to get to the point where you are, where you have a lot of information.

[Tim Pool]

I will say that.

[Hotep Jesus]

And you read a million articles a day.

[Tim Pool]

I read about. About 80% of what I read per day is news articles. And then the other 20 is going to be academic or like court documents.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right. And that's not good reading.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I'm actually, I'm actually anti book.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Anti book.

[Hotep Jesus]

I'm not mad at that.

[Tim Pool]

I think that the issue that I take is that you should read, you should read a lot books. However, while they're great and I'm not literally anti book, I'm just kind of being, you know.

[Hotep Jesus]

No, I'm with you.

[Tim Pool]

Is that a lot of the information in these books will eventually become outdated, Right. Particularly around, you know, especially science, but also around our understanding of certain events. If new information comes to light, and if you rely on a book that's even a few years old, it may be lacking context. Maybe a whistleblower comes out and says something. So, you know, even for Scott Horton's book, if new information comes out about October 7th or just about Israel in general, it may actually make the book somewhat obsolete. You read it and then you think you're reading something that's correct, but it's already outdated.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So the challenge is then reading nothing but the news will make you very stupid. To be fair, if you read all of the news, it's an uncanny valley, right? If you read no news, you're pretty good. If you read just enough, you fall into the uncanny valley of retardation. But if you read all of it, you can now see where they're lying and then start breaking it down. So basically I read like three or four articles per story. You know, like this is what I heard today. I heard Candace Owens was canceling her show because she was lying low due to death threats. And I was like, I'm gonna need a source on that one. And then of course, it's just the interpretation. Her post actually was just. She didn't say it, but it was Thanksgiving. You know what I mean?

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, I like to go left, right, center. Or like, if I wanna know us is dirt, I'm gonna go and read a Chinese or a Russian source, right? If I wanna know Russia's, check the usa. So you always go to somebody's enemy and check it out. Right. But you said academic. When you said you're reading academic work, what academic work are you referring to?

[Tim Pool]

So usually the academic stuff I'm reading is either going to be science related. And this is particularly around like the gender ideology stuff. And, and, and this is more so in the last year. We haven't really talked about this stuff recently. And then historical articles. Okay, so. And there's one historical subject I know, you know, I'm reading about Is.

[Hotep Jesus]

Is it to choose?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, U.S. liberty.

[Tim Pool]

That's all I read about every day. I'm just reading nothing. But no, it's Civil War stuff.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Revolution, Civil war, conflict, crisis. And so I'll read like, there's a challenge too, with these academic articles in that they're these. These. These academics, dude, you know, I'm tell you the problem with academics and with journalists. Academics use overly verbose language for no reason but to sound smart.

[Hotep Jesus]

Correct.

[Tim Pool]

And journalists write fantasy novels of their stories because they. They really wanted to be a novelist, but instead got a job at Rolling Stone. And so what happens is you pull up an article, like an academic article, and instead of saying something that's just like, yo, does boy think he a girl? And I can be like, I get that. It'll be like. The male of the species often encounters a quite difficult assumption in its regulatory identification processes. And I'm like, shut up. And then the journalists instead of writing. Barry Wise says she wants to create a new acceptable overton window. It will say, it was a cold day. The AC dropped low. I entered the convention there on stage. I saw her glistening. Mary Wise. Her mouth opened as the words came out. A new 40 yards. But what does it mean? And I'm like, shut up, shut up, shut up. I'm not writing your. I don't want to read your novel.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

In the.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

This very Weiss is in the shadows. They are really concerned about Tim Civil war.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, hey.

[Tim Pool]

Welcome to gift wrapping.

[Hotep Jesus]

Whoa.

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[Tim Pool]

Forget that.

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Aunt Liz will be jealous.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Pool]

Visit t mobile.com so they're trying to.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Get rid of the fringe and the fringe, they want to bring everyone to the middle again. So they, maybe, you know, that's why.

[Tim Pool]

I said I can respect, I respect a lot of it. It's like, you know, there, there, there should be a reasonable debate in this country. But this uni party view has always excised those who are critical of the war machine. So when we ask why we gave Ukraine $250 billion and we can't, I don't know, fix our roads or pay for healthcare or whatever, they don't want that conversation. They want liberal economic order. So you look what Donald Trump's been doing recently, and it looks like even Trump's on board with maybe, maybe there was a. They got the call and the call was, by all means, maybe it was, we have to support Israel because of our interests in the Middle east. And with Israel, we have to push back on China. We can't let them win. But I think it's largely. This country is being ripped apart at the seams. It's escalating dramatically. Left and right are fighting. Maybe the reason YouTube props up Candace Owens is because she's got left and right unified over a new invisible enemy, the French.

[Phil Labonte]

Definitely France isn't what it used to be, you know, but yeah, I mean, I, I don't know, I don't know for sure what the, the goal is of the, the Bushites and stuff, but I do think that the establishment wants to push back against MAGA as much as they can. Yes, absolutely. They wanted, they want to see a return to the days of the safe Republican. And I don't think that there's enough people in the United States that support that, because even people that look at Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes and say, that's too extreme for me, they're not saying, oh, bring back Mitt Romney. You know, those people, those people are long gone. They, they look at, you know, the things that people like Mitt Romney attempted and see their consistent failure, and they say, that's not good enough for me. Even Donald Trump, who's done more than most other conservatives in the past 40 years or so, they look at Donald Trump and they say, there's a lot of things that I still want him to do that he hasn't done. And Personally, I think a lot of the reason why he hasn't got stuff so many things that he's promised on the campaign trail or alluded to is because it's difficult to do. Again, back to what I was talking about earlier. Difficult to do the way that our system works and the way that you get things done. The President only has limited power and he needs Congress and he needs.

[Hotep Jesus]

And they keep distracting them.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Hotep Jesus]

Like we keep worrying about the Epstein files and you know, all this other stuff. And it's just like, can he focus on me? I'm just trying to reduce my taxes and make sure the stock market go boom. And you over here talking about Jeffrey Epstein files. You're not getting the files. Let it go.

[Phil Labonte]

That's the exact thing that I, Ash.

[Hotep Jesus]

Patel, left them in Mumbai. Okay? They're not coming out, people. I saw them on the stand the other day. Thomas Massey was crossing examine them. He like, yeah, I got some workers here. They're working on it right now. Cash. Did you see him? Well, I trust my workers, Cash. I had to look it up myself. I said, I said, chad, GPT, what is his job? It said, director. Is that the head of the FBI? Yes, it is. Does that mean he should be the one looking into the Epstein files? And said, yes, he should. And I'm like, well, what is going on here? So obviously, I don't know, maybe they showed him, you know, the JFK tape or something and told him, you know, whatever, I don't know. But to your point, Cash ain't doing his job.

[Phil Labonte]

To your point, you said it yourself. You're worried about lowering your taxes and you want the stock market to go. Yeah, that's the real metric that people care about the most.

[Hotep Jesus]

Correct.

[Phil Labonte]

It's kitchen table issues. Can my dollars buy enough for me to pay for groceries, pay my bills and save a little money for me to go on vacation and save money for my kids future. You know, that's what Americans want.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

You know what really bothers me is when, you know, you get people and they're like, Tim works for Netanyahu, you know, the small hats or whatever they're saying, or Tim's a fed and all this stuff and I'm, you know, you know, like relaxing and how like reassuring, easy and reassuring it would be for me in this job if they would just literally give me a file of like, if you say these things, we will promote your show on make your.

[Hotep Jesus]

Life so much easier.

[Tim Pool]

Could you imagine if the feds came to you and said, hotep, say these Things. And you'll be number one on YouTube. Just. You'd be like, now I don't got to figure out the algorithm. I just know exactly what to say.

[Hotep Jesus]

Look, hey, Ezra, if y' all got 7k for a post, give me a call. I dropped the post right now. Why would it cash at me? 7k? I'd type whatever the hell you want. 7k for a per post?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I was talking.

[Hotep Jesus]

I was talking to this money. I don't give a damn.

[Tim Pool]

I was talking to this liberal dude, and he was like. He's like, you wouldn't take money? Because, like, the Russia thing's like, did you really take money from Russia? I was like, I did not. And he's like, you wouldn't, though. And I was like, I would not. And he was like, but hold on. Like, if they came and said, you can say whatever you want and we're gonna give him. You wouldn't do it? And I was like, no, I wouldn't do it. I don't need it and I don't want it.

[Hotep Jesus]

Tim's already rich, y'. All. He don't need nobody.

[Tim Pool]

But then he goes, man, I wish Cutter would give me money. I'd take it in two seconds. I don't care. F. Israel.

[Phil Labonte]

Who said?

[Hotep Jesus]

He said who?

[Tim Pool]

Some liberal guy. It wasn't.

[Hotep Jesus]

You know, he said he wishes. Who giving money?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Cutter.

[Hotep Jesus]

Who's Cutter?

[Tim Pool]

Qatar.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, Qatar. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Cutter. That's what we say.

[Hotep Jesus]

That's what you gotta say. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

No, I don't know. Cutter Qatari. And I. I bet you should reboard these. These liberal. These liberals have been going to these NGOs and these. These PACs, and being like, pay us. This story's been known for over a year now where they're. They've been going, and like, why won't you give us money so we can do more of this stuff, right? And then they make up fake stories, bro. I'm sitting down at their poker table, and there's this old liberal guy, and he goes, who's backing you? And I was like, no one. And he goes, bs Someone's giving you money. And I was like, yet my sponsors, my members, advertisers. And he's like, yeah, but, like, who in the administration? And I said, I have never received a dime from anybody in any political organization, be it Trump or otherwise. And he was like, really? And I was like, yeah, I just happen to have, like, 10 million followers across the board, and I got a bunch of paying members that pay 10 bucks a month. And he goes, 10 bucks a month. And I was like, that's what it is on the website. And he goes, I better delete those posts. No joke. That literally happened. I like this guy.

[Phil Labonte]

I better delete those.

[Tim Pool]

Legit.

[Phil Labonte]

That's hilarious.

[Tim Pool]

He said that. He was going on my Facebook and just posting like, you're bought and paid for. You're funded by Che. But we like this guy. He's. He's a liberal guy. We know he's at the poker table and he's funny. But let's jump to this next story because you brought up Cash Patel. This one's funny from Ms. Now. You may be wondering what that is. Ms. Now it is. Yeah. Is Ms. No one watching. Actually, it used to be msnbc, they say Trump weighing the ouster of Cash Patel. According to sources, Patel has come under scrutiny for his stewardship of bureau resources, including his girlfriend's security detail and use of a government jet. Yeah, I've not heard that. But I don't consider Ms. Now to be any kind of legitimate news organization. Karen Levitt posted. The story is completely made up. In fact, when the fake news was published, I was in the Oval Office where President Trump was meeting with his law enforcement team, including Cash Patel. I read the headline from the president and he laughed and said, what? That's totally false. Come on, Cash, take a picture and show him you're doing a great job. And there's Trump and Cash. Big old smiles. Thumbs up. You were just saying in a moment ago that Cash wasn't doing his job and Trump's not gonna fire the guy.

[Hotep Jesus]

No.

[Tim Pool]

So for whatever. Whatever your view is on this thing, like, Cash is doing a bad job. MSNBC, MS, now claiming they want to fire him. It's like, yeah, this is double fake news.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

This is silly.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

Double.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I do think he's not doing his job. He's director, he's directing, delegating. He doesn't have to look at the Epstein files. He has to have a team do this, a team do that. It's called delegation. You know what I mean?

[Hotep Jesus]

You know?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

So why is he not.

[Hotep Jesus]

I. I run a corporation, and it's not as big as the FBI, unfortunately. Yeah, but at a certain point, you got to get your hands dirty. At a certain point, you've gotta look over some shoulders. You gotta take a look at some files. You have to see it and verify it for yourself. Right. It's like when Peg Bundy. I'm sorry, Pam Bondi, she says, I got the files on my desk.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Hotep Jesus]

Then the next Day, the story is, oh, they were in a truck. So it's just like. Wait a second. If you had the files on your desk, did you. Like, it starts to get some obfuscation of the facts.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Hotep Jesus]

There's no veracity to it, especially when it's ethnic files.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

You gotta know what's going on with something that big of a deal.

[Hotep Jesus]

Well, Cash Patel talk big. Cash on the. On the. On the way to his position and said, I'm gonna get him for you. So if you were so gung ho about it, why you not looking at it yourself? I would be if this is the biggest story of the year, as far as, you know, tabloids are concerned. Right? You gotta. You gotta get your hands dirty. You can't. You're the director. I'm not leaving this to delegate. Especially when the delegations are from the previous administration. Oh, yeah, right. You gotta. If this is the Biden, they just came from the Biden administration. You gotta definitely double check their work.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Like, I'm leaking stuff too, and they're leaking stuff.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right. You just don't leave it up to, you know, we put up. Delegated to.

[Tim Pool]

I put up a poll for the chat. Is Cash doing a great job or should he be fired?

[Hotep Jesus]

What is it?

[Tim Pool]

And I know that, like, that's a tough one. It's, like, pretty extreme. It's like, either you might say he's not doing a good job, but he shouldn't be fired. Yeah, but right now it's 51. Cash is doing great. Yeah, I mean, maybe I could. Sorry. I'll put three options. Actually, let's do three options. I'm gonna end this.

[Hotep Jesus]

Do three. Let's do three. All right, let's do this third option.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's see. Add an option. Should we do three or four?

[Hotep Jesus]

Four. Do four. He's doing great. He's doing poorly.

[Tim Pool]

Cash is doing great. He's is doing okay.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay, there you go. Cash is less than okay. Boy, Cash is doing horrible.

[Tim Pool]

Or should he be fired?

[Hotep Jesus]

Fired? Yeah, let's go extreme with the last one.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we'll give you the options. We'll give you the options. I spelled should wrong.

[Hotep Jesus]

Let's. Let's see what that looks like. I'm on. I'm on the. He's doing okay.

[Tim Pool]

Me too. I agree. I agree.

[Hotep Jesus]

He's doing.

[Tim Pool]

You know that we're in the. The Discord show. For those that aren't familiar, if you [e-mail], we do a 6pm show, which is, like, private VIP for Discord members and someone asked if I thought Cash was doing a good job or not because of the story that came out. And my point was, nobody ever brings up the boots on the ground granular stuff that the FBI has been doing, like catching criminals. And because it's not flashy, you know, a guy is wanted on, like, drug trafficking charges and it's like three felony counts, he's going to get 15 years. It's not the biggest story in the world. FBI catches him, he gets arrested. Press, you know, field office or whatever, nobody's making a post being like, boom, look at this. He caught this one guy who was driving this one time. And so poor Cash has tried to do press, like, conferences on this stuff, being like, here's all of the, like, street level crime we are stopping. We are doing a good job. And everyone's like, yeah, but we just want to see Comey in prison. Like, quite literally, they could. If the FBI stopped doing everything related to ground crime and literally just focused on arresting, like a single Democrat, people would be more satisfied. That's the problem with perception. So I say he's doing okay because I do think if we don't get accountability on all this political corruption, then what do we look forward to in the future? It's high level now, but I also think for those of us that have been paying attention to the news and seeing what the FBI has been doing, it's like he's been cranking it up on child predators. Yes. And traffickers. They've been doing a pretty good job on the end.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay, where's the chat at now? What are they?

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Hotep Jesus]

What are they?

[Tim Pool]

All right, we got. Let's, let's. Let's take a look at this. What's the assessment? We got 12 doing great, 44 doing okay, 24 less than okay, and 20 he should be fired.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

20.

[Tim Pool]

I like the less than okay. Like, you know, he's not doing bad. It's just, you know, you can do it better.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I was gonna say he was a big Russia hoax guy, wasn't he?

[Tim Pool]

He was accused.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He was framed as being a Russia guy.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, he was. That's what I mean. He had a big investment against it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's. And he's super pissed at Comey, bro. As the head of the FBI, like, I'm gonna go ahead and say this all due respects, I like Cash, consider him a friend of the show. But when he said Comey perpetrated one of the greatest criminal conspiracies or whatever, I'm like, whoa, Whoa, whoa. Like, there's a reason why the head of the FA doesn't make these statements because it can jeopardize your, your prosecution, your investigations and things like this. Yeah, but I actually really love that he said it because I'm like, bro, when he said that, come on, how are you gonna pretend like he doesn't want to get these guys? He's so pissed.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's been, he's been pretty vocal about it. I mean, he's, he was, he's been on Dan Bongino show talking about it. He's been here talking about it, and he's been very clear that he's, he looks at the FBI before this Trump administration as one of the most corrupt organizations in the entire federal government. And I, I don't, I don't know that you can really argue with that. Like, they, they were politically motivated, you know, from top to bottom. It, it wasn't just the leadership. It was the people that were in like management positions and stuff. People that, you don't know their names, but they were extremely, extremely politically motivated. And you could see that by the. I forget the guy's name. Stroke Peter.

[Hotep Jesus]

Stroke struck.

[Phil Labonte]

Peter Strock was, you know, he was texting his girlfriend like, oh, you know, we're gonna get him, we're gonna get him. And nobody would have known his name had it not been for the fact that he got busted for those texts because he was a mid level guy. But when you have a bureaucracy like the FBI that has that many people, it's hard to smoke them out because when the new administration comes in, they just stop talking about it. You know, they don't, they don't make a big stink. And they're like, okay, I'll just wait this administration out. And then when the new guy comes in, when the Democrats are back in, then we can continue on as things were before. And I think that that's, that's likely the situation. Like, there's a significant, there's a significant threat to conservatives currently by people like that. Should a Democrat get into power again, which they're definitely going to, they will just keep doing the same things they were doing during the Biden administration. They'll keep attacking conservatives. They're going to do things like start watching parents that are going to school committee meetings and, and PTA meetings and saying, oh, you know, you have the wrong opinion. So I personally think that it's super important that they do their best to root these people out. And I think the Cash wants to do that.

[Hotep Jesus]

Conservative conservatives, a Cook. The conservative movement is cooked.

[Tim Pool]

It's a rap.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I agree.

[Hotep Jesus]

Stick a fork in it. It's a rap. It's over. You had a great one, Maga. Kudos to you. You had a great one. Populist movement is gonna be completely, utterly dismantled. You guys are going in 20 different directions. The men, they just want to go to work, make an earning, come home. His wife's watching Cannon Zone, she's talking about McCrone, Slim Jim. And it's just. We are. Can we get focused, people?

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna tell you some of the, you know, I, I been having conversations with top men.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, top.

[Tim Pool]

I was talking to, as I mentioned before, like, a lot of people are asking me about the Turning Point situation, like what our end of the year plan is. For the past three years, it's been Phoenix. This year we're gonna be at the World Poker Tour World Championships. I was invited to do an influencer stream with some other high profile personalities and millions of followers. I think it's a great opportunity. Every investment we've made at Tim Cast has been for cultural issues. Okay, so we have a. We sell coffee and we're opening coffee shops, physical places people can be. First one should be open actually very soon. Big updates coming. You guys should hang out at Mamba Collectibles in Martinsburg, which is where it will ultimately be. Right now, the card shop is open. Come play, you know, Magic Yu, Pokemon, whatever you do. And we're gonna be setting up a show there for Friday nights where we do D and D depending on Ian's reliability. But we've invested in skateboarding, music and poker. These are things that I do. And we want to. And we want to reach people where they are. You got to fish where the fish are.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There's a dude we all love and respect, G prime 85. You've seen his comics. I'm sure they always go viral. He's got some of the best. And conservatives always rag on anyone on the right who's trying to do arts or sports or entertainment or gaming. And they say, grow up. I was talking with Father Riperger, who's amazing, by the way, talking about demonic possession, and he mentioned there's influence. Demonic obsession. I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on this stuff, but he was pointing out that the obsession is when you're influenced by the demons, you're not possessed by them is also a problem we have. And I asked him, this was in context as a part of a larger conversation that we know that the arts are where you Meet people. And you.

[Phil Labonte]

You.

[Tim Pool]

You share, like, the stories you. You tell are what, influence their worldview and things of this nature. But there's a prominent sector of conservatives that insult or attack anybody who tries to get in a creative space, saying, it's for children, grow up, get a job, all of these things to make you feel emotional pain and rejection for doing what you actually need to do to reach normies. I asked him if that was demonic, and he said, absolutely. The. The idea that they're demonic.

[Hotep Jesus]

So reaching out through culture.

[Tim Pool]

No, no. Telling conservatives.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay, okay.

[Tim Pool]

Demonic influence got you.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay?

[Tim Pool]

Because the uninitiated. Imagine this. Imagine someone told you that trying to, like, missionaries were stupid for going to video game conventions. It'd be like, what do you mean? Like, go anywhere you can to teach people your worldview, your morals or ethics.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

But we have a factor, a faction of people on the right that will tell you, don't do these things. They're bad. It's like, bro, when people are. Are at super bowl and it's 20, 30 million in the ratings, and you're like, we don't need to be focused on sports ball. We gotta be talking. Okay, dude, regular working class Joe doesn't know what you're talking about with Israel, with Ukraine. All he knows is his, his. His. His interest rates are too high. He can't afford his grocery bill. He's got 700 bucks a week in groceries for his family. He's got three kids, and he's pissed. And then you're telling conservatives, don't go meet him at the game. Yeah, what is he thinking? Bro, I worked all week. All I want to do, man, is have some wings, crack a beer, and watch some football and chill out. And I'm not advocating you sit down next to him and say, stop watching the game. We're talking politics. I'm saying, you fist bump him and say, bro, I got a great game. Come do this fantasy football thing we're doing at a bar. And guess what? What's at the bar? You got American flag. It could be as simple as that. And then while you're there and you're hanging out and everyone's having a beer and having a good time, you can be like, man, these prices, man, I wish they'd come down. But, you know, the problem is. And then you are friends, then you are sharing your ideas. There are people who. I'll tell you this. If you only ever invest in being in spaces where people are already conservative, already political, you're not. You're not convincing Any new people to pay attention?

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, there's a famous copywriter by the name of Eugene Swartz. And Eugene Swartz is a expert copywriter in marketing. And he basically says, if you want to be a great copywriter, read the National Enquirer, read the tabloids, because you have to meet people where they are. If you have a conversation with somebody and you can't talk pop culture with them, they're never gonna listen to your political opinion. If you don't know who scored 50 points last night at a high level, you have no way to connect with them. And you have to connect with people at the heart level first. And then you can brainwash them after that. You know, you condition them to sit them down in the chair. You time to the chair. You know, you turn on some, you know, Andrew Breitbart, open their eyes up.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

So they can close their eyes.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, you keep the eyes open. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, like we were talking about earlier, like, Americans vote on vibes, they vote on how they feel. And that's as much. Even people that are like, no, I really think, think it through and stuff. What they're thinking about is, does this do the things that I need them to do? Do these policies do the things that I need them to do to make me feel good about my life? No matter how you slice it, you're voting on emotions. So you have to meet people where they are and you have to be able to convince them, I am going to help you. Because if they feel like they're getting help, they feel like you care about them, that's going to make them feel good.

[Hotep Jesus]

It happened with my movement. When I first started the HOTEP movement, I was like, you know, no fast food and no sports and no tv. And it got us nowhere.

[Tim Pool]

Everyone's like, screw this, I want my Taco Bell and I want Hawkins.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, I got cussed out. They're like, what are you talking about? Shut up, bro, you sound crazy. But as soon as we shifted and I got a little bit more lenient, I had some Popeyes on stream, had enjoyed some McDonald's french fries, talk football. All of a sudden we became relatable. Talking hip hop, we became relatable. People will figure out and like, oh, okay, this guy's cool. Now what do you have to say about politics?

[Tim Pool]

You gotta, you gotta fish with a fisher there. Yo, you gotta fish with. The fish are.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Imagine going into a liberal space and trying to convince them to listen to your politics. They're not going to do it. So then everyone Goes to these conservative conventions and they're like, I agree, I agree.

[Hotep Jesus]

I agree too.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm like, what do you, what are you doing? So I, I will actually say this with great hubris. Hubris. We have one of the most influential skateboard companies in the world now with Boonies hq, with the boonies boards. The board got right behind. I got my uncancelable and I'll show you this. You see that board behind me?

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

That logo on that board is one of the most iconic skateboard logos for over 70 years. And the company Independent that used it, abandoned it, removed it from other products because woke people, told them it was a Nazi, Nazi cross or something like that. It was an iron cross. As soon as they dropped it, I picked it up, started selling boards with it on it. And we now own it. That's the point. And so what happens is skateboarding is now shifting. It's a very limited industry, but it's an Olympic sport. It's going to be massive in the next three years. And right now it's totally dead. And we used to have pro skateboarders saying, I don't know, man, I don't know if I can come skate. Because the politics. Now they're saying, can I come skate? I need the money. So we, we have entered a state of skating.

[Hotep Jesus]

Good. Yeah, I'll be, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be ready for the ramp next year.

[Tim Pool]

It's not about going to a group of kids and being like, let's talk politics, children and bring in a pro skateboarder. It's about bringing people in and being like, yo, those crazy people that hate your guts and treat you like trash and threaten you. We're not like that. Right, Come skate with us. We got a big old American flag and smiles on our faces. We're not here to talk politics. We're here to skate. And now they're in our sphere of influence. And some people have said that's a nefarious idea. My point is this. We are always more welcoming, more understanding and not threatening you over your political opinions.

[Hotep Jesus]

And you ain't going to chop off they Slim Jim.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. Now let's jump to this next story. Oh boy, we got a juicy one. Tony Ortiz says undisclosed pay, disclosed paid posts from right wing influencers for a gambling website.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh yeah, she was all over the place.

[Tim Pool]

What is going on? Jaden McNeil on X says I'm noticing. And then he has these images you've got. Is it just this one image? Elijah Schaer posting $3,000 bet turned into $23,000. Dang. I have a bunch of friends who bet on sports and earn big money, but I also have friends super against sports betting. Says I don't personally see. See it as an issue if it's not addiction. An addiction. It's fun. And then he promotes a bigger something website. You got Stu Peters saying when even die hard Raiders fans are cashing in, bet by bet, blah blah blah. And then he says, smart move hedging against that Zionist Curse. Jack Wallace, 20K in a Day, Bigger.com or whatever. Bigger Z. Matt Wallace, Pearl Davis. Sports betting doesn't have to be complicated. Bigger Z. So it looks like none of the. It's all Jake Shields. Would you bet against your own team or your favorite fighter? Personally, I can't do it. That's a good bet. Looks like there's a bunch of woke.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, sure. Right wing individuals who are h. Pearl Davis doesn't. Pearl Davis doesn't qualify. I hate that term. Woke. Right. It's meaningless. Looks like they're doing undisclosed promotion of a betting website. This, this, this community note says given the accounts are making similar posts, one can conclude this is an ad. Ads must be disclosed. Additionally, gambling promotion is also against X's rules.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yo, and. And verify this. That site's not even available for US users.

[Tim Pool]

For real?

[Hotep Jesus]

Verify it, please.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you see, I'm pretty sure because people are saying it's like China or something, right? Yeah. Count suspended. Yo, Rut row, bro. Listen, these people have all been caught doing this. Wasn't Elijah Schaefer caught like running propaganda for India?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Was he part of the soda thing?

[Tim Pool]

Maybe it was him. There was also, you know, look, I know Elijah Schaefer I consider my friend, but I don't. I don't follow his. His stuff too closely. We just, I just interviewed him a few months. I'm sorry, a week ago or so ago about the, the. The Cash Patel stuff. But then a video came out where people were like, yo, it sounds like he's a fed because he was doing an interview with Gavin McInnes and Gavin said, what are you doing in El Salvador? He stutters and then says, I do work on it. I mean, America's interests are in El Salvador. And that's why I go there. I have a safe house. And it's like, oh, what does that mean?

[Hotep Jesus]

What A safe house.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know what that means, but I'm not going to speak to that. I just got this question of. This is not the first time these people have Been called out for making posts that are clearly paid.

[Hotep Jesus]

Big grifting.

[Tim Pool]

Big grifting.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, we got to nominate them all. Grifties dot com. Everybody. Go to Grifties dot com. Nominate everybody here. This is is big Griff dude meme.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Therefore I am rhymeless. All those meme accounts, they're all talking about betting all the time nowadays.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Getting paid dollar bill, y'. All.

[Hotep Jesus]

That does happen.

[Phil Labonte]

Dollar dollar bill, y'. All. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean did.

[Tim Pool]

Did Pearl address her promotion? Cuz she's like, she's the odd person out, right?

[Hotep Jesus]

Is she?

[Tim Pool]

Well, like all these other dudes are like the other. The other accounts on that post. It's like Jake Shields, Elijah, Stu Peters. They're very much like anti Israel. Pearl just hates women. Oh yeah, look at this.

[Phil Labonte]

Pearl does.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think she actually hates women. I think she just says things that we.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Gotcha.

[Hotep Jesus]

She's a rage beta. Oh, hey.

[Tim Pool]

Welcome to gift wrapping.

[Hotep Jesus]

Whoa.

[T-Mobile Announcer]

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[T-Mobile Salesperson]

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[Hotep Jesus]

Wow.

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[Customer]

I'm the worst. I only got my mom a robe.

[T-Mobile Salesperson]

Well, it's better than socks.

[Customer]

So I have to trade in my old phone, right?

[T-Mobile Salesperson]

No @t mobile. There's no trade ins needed when you switch. Keep your old phone or give it as a gift.

[Customer]

Incredible.

[T-Mobile Salesperson]

In fact, wrap up my old phone too for my aunt Rosa.

[Tim Pool]

Forget that.

[T-Mobile Salesperson]

Aunt Liz will be jealous.

[Customer]

Sounds like my family drama.

[T-Mobile Salesperson]

Oh, I got it. I'll give it to my abuela. I'll take reindeer paper with. Hey, where are you going?

[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Pool]

Visit T mobile.com She's a Griff there. She's a gift.

[Phil Labonte]

She's playing to her audience. She's made her built herself an audience of. Of of, you know, and so feminist critical women or feminist critical people.

[Tim Pool]

I was, I was surprised when she we had her on the show and I Asked her how tall she was, and she immediately snaps, five' eleven. And I was just like, five' eleven. She's like six something.

[Hotep Jesus]

She like six' eight.

[Tim Pool]

She's not. Maybe like. Maybe like six.

[Hotep Jesus]

I'm telling you. No, for real. Like, she could play one on one versus LeBron.

[Tim Pool]

Well, she was a volleyball player, wasn't she? Yeah, she's a very tall player. Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, she's humongous. I was terrified when I met her. I said. I said, hey, Pearl. She said. I was like, oh, snap. Where's your beanstalk? It was crazy. I swear. It was crazy. It was crazy.

[Tim Pool]

But no, I bring that up because you'd think that, you know, her of all people would be cognizant of the, like, you know, she rags someone all the time, but she's, like, embarrassed that she's really tall.

[Hotep Jesus]

She shouldn't be.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, it's because guys don't like tall women.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it's like you got short men that are. They're told. You say that. They say that in Napoleon complex. Yeah. And they get made fun of. But she, like, that's why it's like, don't act that way because you're acting the way they describe short guys being a tall woman.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Like, just lying and saying you're five' eleven. It's like, come on. No, you're not.

[Hotep Jesus]

No, guys. Like, there's a lot of guys. I used to date a tall chick.

[Tim Pool]

She's got it. She's got to go date a basketball player. And that's not even a joke. I mean, if you're. If you're taller, it's like, if you're 6, 10 or more, you have a 17 chance of being in the NBA.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

It's some crazy, massive number.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then they even have players in the NBA who aren't good, but they're just really tall.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's kind of weird.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Rebounds.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

They just stand there and go, like five years because. Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Ray Godin.

[Tim Pool]

Yup.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

You know what's up?

[Tim Pool]

I'm not here to rag on Pearl, though, about her worldview. I'm just kind of like, what's up with this? You know, these. These posts from.

[Hotep Jesus]

Gambling site already.

[Tim Pool]

What is that site? Bigger Z. Com. What is that? Biggers.com. it's an online betting platform for sports betting, particularly soccer international. And what's their website?

[Hotep Jesus]

Americans don't even watch soccer.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Based on Malta or something.

[Tim Pool]

Yo. Wait, what? Yeah, you can't use it in America.

[Hotep Jesus]

It's not available in America. It's restricted from your region.

[Tim Pool]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Why would this company ask American influencers to post?

[Phil Labonte]

Because if they know, man.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no. But come on, this says something. This says that this company assessed their accounts and believes their audience is non American.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, my God.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Portion of them.

[Tim Pool]

Right? A gaming website that can't be accessed in the United States is not going to pay someone to promote it to people, to customers that can't use it.

[Hotep Jesus]

So let's take it to the next level, girls.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Uk though.

[Tim Pool]

She got it right.

[Hotep Jesus]

She is uk. Let's take it to the next level.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. So Elijah is Australia, but he's back in the US now. But he was Australia.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, so. So I've been saying these same accounts have had bot engagement farming, right? Mostly from exterior. Right. Of the United States. And what did we get just this past few weekend? The disclosure of people's locations. A lot of it India. So maybe you're right. Their following is in Mumbai, is in Vietnam, it's in Philippines, Bangladesh. Because they're bot farms that push their engagement, have the local following. Wow, you just uncovered something right there. Tim, drop the.

[Tim Pool]

It was really funny how. But people are pointing out VPNs, right? Like the company expects people to just illegally access the site.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, that's true too. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But they got banned because it's against the rules. I just think that the bigger scandal is that these accounts have been implicated before in being paid to promote anti American interests.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Like, let me. Let me pull this up, see if I can find it.

[Hotep Jesus]

That's insane, bro. That's. Oh, my God. So they assessed their following, said, hey, you know, Elijah, you're really popular in India right now. Gupta is your number one fan. That is out of control. Oh, my God.

[Tim Pool]

So, yeah, so we got this from Will Chamberlain. He says Elijah needs to explain who gave him this article and why he agreed to put his name on it. If you think he wrote it himself, I have a bridge to sell you. And this is from September. And it is exposed A shocking truth about who's really cashing in on Russian oil. Exclamation point, which looks like a press release. The myth if Indian companies were really raking in excess profits, they were finding margins would show it. Instead, the evidence reveals the opposite. Russia share of India's oil imports rose dramatically. Whatever the context is, like, India has not broken with global policy frameworks that has operated. This was around the time like Trump was threatening to like sanction India.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And then all of a sudden, Elijah published This article on, I think it's Gateway pundit. I could be wrong. Just being like, hey, India ain't bad. Yeah, Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, there's a, there's a lot of grifting going on on X, you know, a lot.

[Hotep Jesus]

It's an explosion.

[Tim Pool]

Aesthetica claimed that Ryan A. Fournier is the person who set up the India campaign. And Will Chamberlain says it's a screenshot from Gateway pundit. This guy Eddie Lee says, is he wrong? The losers in the conflict are taxpayers, Ukrainian men in European industry. And then he posts the fry. Interesting.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And this was before we can see where they're from. Right. So that one dude who was talking to Will might be from India or somewhere.

[Tim Pool]

So there was this scandal, I can't remember, remember the soda scandal where everybody was like, people should be allowed to buy soda on snap.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There was a company that you can be like, hey, I have this many followers, I want money and they'll tell you what to tweet. I forgot that company was called let's find that one.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, I think it starts with a P. Pepsi. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's a. It's an in between company. Let's see.

[Tim Pool]

Maga influencers caught red hand and shilling for big soda. Yeah, there's the articles about it.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, what was the name of that?

[Tim Pool]

This is October.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

Huh?

[Tim Pool]

Look at this. So I bring this up because a moment ago you were saying that the right is cooked. They're going like the. It's broken.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Guys, listen, listen.

[Hotep Jesus]

Influenceable.

[Tim Pool]

I get these people and they're like, tim, don't burn bridges. Don't say, don't criticize people on the ride and stuff like that. And I'm like, listen, look where we are, okay? You got people on the right that are now just chilling for gambling websites in China or where the company's from, selling soda through Snap benefits and chilling for India. All right, this is bad, it's sad, but this is the reality, okay? US soda and snack food industries thread by RFK have turned to a group of well connected strategists, shadowy pollsters and anti woke influencers. What was the name of that company?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Influenceable.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right, Influenceable.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Was that the company, they paid them for the soda?

[Hotep Jesus]

I believe they were.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

They're the social media company.

[Phil Labonte]

I think you're right.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

Right?

[Hotep Jesus]

Am I right?

[Tim Pool]

Maybe.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Sounds right.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. I don't know that it was this company that did it, but this looks.

[Hotep Jesus]

Like it's one of those. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no, no. Look, look, look. They Got Angel Studios, Brave Books, Fox Nation, Fox News, Daily Wire. Yeah, I think that was it because.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Chad Prather did the. Did the soda. According to Chat gp.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, it goes.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I got no problem if this company wants to promote movies, things like, am I racist? What is a woman? Or Homestead or whatever they want to do. Yeah, but if people are shilling for soda companies or whatever through this or like India and against American interests, we got a problem.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Greed.

[Tim Pool]

But I'm actually like, I'm looking at it and like, oh, you can. Wait, wait, hold on. People are promoting Sound of Freedom for money. I did that for free. See, you know what, man? Everybody was every check. No, but for real, think about this.

[Hotep Jesus]

Wait, what is it?

[Tim Pool]

Remember when everyone was promoting Sound of.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Freedom, the movie about the child trafficking?

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, yes.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. It was a paid campaign.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And that's illegal. I'm a fan of the movie. I'm a fan of Angel Studios. And I promoted this. I didn't get paid to do it. I was just like, oh, this is really great.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Check this out. And I was like, let's talk about in the show. Let's have him on the show. Nobody paid me a dime. Angel Studios, I believe, has sponsored our show as a pre roll sponsor, though, and they've reached out to us about doing other stuff. But we, we. We're not, we're like, we're not interested in doing that. I have absolutely no problem. I think it's fantastic. Yeah, but you got to put ad in your post. You have to say, this is. This is a sponsored post. That's a legal requirement.

[Hotep Jesus]

You know I'm in filmmaking now, right?

[Tim Pool]

You are?

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah. We just released our trailer, Walking the Cold Line. It's up on my YouTube now. We're in post production. I got a short film coming out. Tim, I'm trying to follow your lead, man. We gotta, you know, take over the coach.

[Tim Pool]

Have you seen Nefarious?

[Hotep Jesus]

A campaign that possessed the Internet.

[Tim Pool]

Well, Nefarious is a great movie. It's a really good movie. I recommend you guys see it. I am not being paid by anybody to say that, but I'm kind of pissed now that other people are getting paid to say what I just say. Anyway, but we also had.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

Who.

[Tim Pool]

Who was it? Who made this film?

[Hotep Jesus]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

It's a good movie.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's a really good movie from Blaze Deaner.

[Tim Pool]

Steve Deese.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Steve Deese.

[Tim Pool]

That's who it was.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry, Steve, forgetting your name, but I am, you know, what's going on, man? I just talk about things that I like and don't like. But people are getting paid. Come on, look at that.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And then we do a fantastic.

[Tim Pool]

What about the other stuff they've done? They don't want to admit it thing.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

For Walk the Line.

[Hotep Jesus]

Walking the Cold Line.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. For Sound of Freedom. Yeah, dude, it was. We, we did a super chat something. Yeah. We raised 25. We did like a matching thing and I. And at the time it was for not, not the film, but for the organization.

[Hotep Jesus]

Look up Hotep Jesus.

[Tim Pool]

Was it Tim Ballard? I think it was for his organization. We said, we'll match the super chats. And then we raised like 25, 000 for his organization.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, that's what's up. Yep. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, here I am. Let's see. I'm a creator. Join the network.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Who we got? Who's in the network? I want. They, they used to have people on it.

[Hotep Jesus]

You could see who was in there. Yeah, yeah, thanks.

[Tim Pool]

You know, you know what I can do?

[Hotep Jesus]

They sent me emails. I just don't like, I don't like that. I don't like somebody paying me to say something. I, I, it feels weird. It's like if we align. Just hit me up. Right? Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. So this is their website back in last year, a year. December 20, 2024.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Graham Allen. There's.

[Tim Pool]

Yup. So I don't know if it's going to show anybody else, but you've got this initial photo right here. Who is this?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's gray male. And there's that.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it's DC Drano. Yeah, there's, there's DC Drano.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

So they got a lot of the people on the right.

[Tim Pool]

He's been accused of a lot of paid posts. Yeah, man. Are they on the, are they up to. For a grifty?

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, he's definitely up there for a grifty. D.C. drano. Yeah, I think he's like ranked number 45 or something on the website. I'm not sure, but I believe he's up there. Yeah. Big rift.

[Tim Pool]

This is demoralizing, these people posting this stuff. Like, yeah, Candace is very demoralizing. Yeah. And, and not because I have issue with like, you know, I was having a conversation with someone about it. They're like, she can tuck whatever she wants. I was like, I completely agree.

[Hotep Jesus]

I agree with that.

[Tim Pool]

The, and, and someone said to me, you don't take issue with like 90 day fiance or like the Bachelorette. Like, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I, I, I, yeah, You're right. You're right. Like, there's tons of, like, low tier true crime drama rage bait stuff. It said that Candace was a political personality and has now shifted her audience into true crime. You know, Is that what this is she's doing? She does. Yes. It's like, it's women's content. It's very female coded.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, it's very. Yeah, it's very female coded. Yeah. And I just want women back in the kitchen.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. We got it. Who's this? Who are these guys? Oh, there he is. That's Elijah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh. Oh, that's. That, That's. That's Maga Latinas. What's her name down there, right? Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

No idea.

[Hotep Jesus]

She's pretty attractive.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Women all look alike.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, she's a Maga Latina.

[Tim Pool]

What else?

[Hotep Jesus]

I like her. She's cool.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. They say campaign strategy. The. We sent the offering. Get paid. Work your magic and get paid. You know what's really amazing about this company, though, is, like, the movie stuff clearly worked because the movies are interesting and align with values, right? But it's remarkable how bad they were at everything else. Like, guys, these. These canned messages, it's not how you do it, right?

[Hotep Jesus]

You know? Yeah, yeah, you know, it is.

[Tim Pool]

It is pretty. Pretty. Just, I guess, sad, really. Let's jump to the next iteration of their website, see who else we can find getting paid.

[Hotep Jesus]

This is a whole industry too. There's a bunch of people that. What's the name of that website that makes you take videos? People could pay you.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Cameo.

[Tim Pool]

Cameo.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, Cameo. They reached out to me. I'm like, nah, bro, ain't nobody about to have me sing really? Birthday to him. Yeah. They wanted me to sign up and I'm like, you know, I'm not singing Happy Birthday to some stranger.

[Tim Pool]

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[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, I'll pay you 30 bucks to sing Happy Birthday. And I'm sitting there making videos all day like, no, bro, we're not.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Seven grand.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

What do you think? Seventh grade?

[Hotep Jesus]

I'm in.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

I think so. George Sandoz told me to sign up for Cameo. And I did. I just never checked it ever since because I'm like, dude, I gotta be honest. Like, the idea that someone sends me a script, I'm gonna read whatever they want for money is just not gonna happen.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, it feels weird. Why does it.

[Tim Pool]

No matter what it is, it's not happening.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Well, they don't send any scripts, right? They say, like, say happy birthday to my friend.

[Tim Pool]

No, they send you scripts. They say, yeah, and then, and then when you open it, it shows you the front facing camera with the text. You read it as you're looking at it. Oh, and you know, recently, Full disclosure was it Shout Out, I think reached out to me.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And this is conservatives doing something similar and asked me to sign up. I said, yeah, I'll do it. And then someone sent in a request and I looked at it and I was like, I'm not doing this. Like, if someone wants to connect with me on business stuff, Cameo also has a business feature. And I'm like, I'm not going to charge. What is, what is PBD charge? Like 30 grand or something.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Per Cameo for a business meeting.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, gotcha.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Gotcha.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Very expensive. And. And he's worth like $400 million. So I mean like, if you want to talk to that guy and. But I get so many emails, I just can't read them. And so actually this made sense to me because it's like if you emailed me, like, I have an idea, I want to work on a project or I'm looking for access or I need advice, that email is just going to be auto filtered out. Like, yeah, I'm not going to read it. My staff's not going to read it because there's just too many of them. Does that mean I should never listen to anybody? What's the value exchange then? Okay, so I'll go on Cameo or shut up and be like, couple grand. And I'll sit down and take time out of my day and, and have a conversation with you about what you want or just don't. I don't know. I don't have to. But the idea that like someone sent me a message and it was like, they want me to read like a, like a script. I'm like, that's not. That's never gonna happen. There's zero dollars. They'll make it happen. Zero dollars.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah. If.

[Tim Pool]

If someone sent me something, if someone's offered me a couple hundred bucks to be like, just let me know what you think about this and say, shout out. I'd be like, yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? But then I don't need to take 300 bucks from you to do it.

[Hotep Jesus]

But what is the, what is the, like, why do you do not like the script? Because I don't like it and I'm not exactly sure why.

[Tim Pool]

What, I don't, I don't say things in exchange from like, let me put it like this. When we do ad reads for sponsors, we kick back a bunch and I consider myself to be pretty lax on sponsorships, but we've had a ton of sponsors that have been rejected or I've made them change their scripts and their language and you know, there's a lot of companies that'll be like, we want you to read the script. And it'll be like, it'll be a product that I don't use or have never used before. And they'll want me to say, that's the best thing I've ever used. And I'm like, but I've never used it.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Like, I'm literally not going to say that.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, you can't lie. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so I tell them, like, give me a couple of weeks, I'll try it out and if I like it, I'll let you know. And I gotta be honest, like, usually the product you're getting is not going to be a bad product. Like people, people making and selling products. If someone, if someone came to me and said it's like, you know, I don't know, like spinach flavored ice cream or something, I'd be like, I'm not, I'm not in. No, thank you. But when they come to me with like a protein shake or something, I'll be like, yeah, I'll give it a shot. And I'm like, this is really good. There, there are, and, and I'll tell you this, there are some protein companies that we've rejected outright. We got sent, I'm going to be very vague because I don't want to insult them, but we got sent some samples and they were like, we want you to read the script. And I was like, we'll try them out. Everyone here hated them.

[Hotep Jesus]

They just didn't taste good.

[Tim Pool]

They tasted terrible.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Weird flavors. And we were like, sorry, sorry, boss. So what I, what I say is this. We're, we're pretty specific on whether we'll do sponsorship spots. That's why we have a lot of the same sponsors over and over again because we like what they do. But the idea that someone will give me a script to read even the scripts they give me, we actually help craft them. And, like, we're not going to say this. We're not going to do this. So the problem is these cameo sites is you will get paid X amount of dollars to read exactly this. Like, nah.

[Hotep Jesus]

So, so basically what you're saying is if a Republican or an Israeli came to you with the script, you're not going to read it?

[Tim Pool]

There's all I have, hard lines for sure. Like, I was offered in, in like 2017. In 2017, RT offered me, like, I don't know, maybe 15, $20,000 for footage from Sweden.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And I ignored them, deleted it. This is creepy. By. This is a creepy story. I get an email after I go to Sweden from an RT producer. This is back in mid 2017, and they were like, hey, we know that you were recently in Sweden. We're curious if we can. If we can acquire any of the rights to your footage. Ignore. Delete. Not interested. Not taking money from rt. Get an email again. Like, hey, Tim, just following up, you know, maybe you missed the email. We're. We're looking for footage out of Sweden and we know that you have some. And I'm like, why are they emailing me twice about this? That's weird. Delete. Gone. Then I get an email from someone I know who works in media saying, hey, Tim, some producers at RT reached out to me. They're trying to get in touch with you because they wanted to offer you 15 to $20,000. Like $15,000 for licensing some of the footage you had. And I was like, delete. Goodbye. This is getting weird. And I got another email again. And they were like, they've upped the offer to 20. Are you not interested? And then I literally was like, why are you emailing me? Delete. I told this at a conference. I was at DEFCON for a panel and I said this was really creepy. And so this is part of why I'm going to say when Merrick Garland comes out and claims that we got Russian money, it's a. Is a lie. Is a psyop.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I think they were trying to set me up the whole time to accuse me of being funded by Russia when I went to Sweden. And I was like, I don't take money from foreign news organizations. It's not. I know people who worked for Shinhua. And I'm like, I would never do that. Yeah, I'm not gonna take money from foreign press outlets to publish. What I publish comes from me. I'll take American sponsors, I'll take members I won't take money from the US Government either. And here I am like a sucker and these people are getting paid to promote a movie I promoted for free and raised $25,000 for their. For that organization. Man, what are we doing over here, huh?

[Hotep Jesus]

And you could have been promoting the gambling website.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Soda for snack.

[Hotep Jesus]

You get. You missed out on the suspended account money, man.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Account money.

[Tim Pool]

Or India or. This is the crazy thing too. Like the soda thing. Dude, I am. I am so anti soda, bro. Like, the idea that.

[Hotep Jesus]

What do you mean you're anti soda? Like, you think people shouldn't drink it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think it's disgusting. Okay, now go and drink it if you want to. I'm just saying, like, it's bad for you. It's. It's bro, like a can. A can of nondescript leading brand cola, okay? It's going to have like 48 grams of sugar in it. Yeah. That's insane.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, it's good for you.

[Tim Pool]

I got these. You know what's really based is this thing right here. We got a bunch of these. These are soul tie salty, I didn't pronounce it. Wild Blueberry Super Aid. 40 calories, 10, 8 sugars, 10 carbs total, and very light, not too sweet. In glass.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Pool]

In glass. And they, they said that they designed the stickers to be easy to peel off so that you can recycle the glass more better. This is great. And of course we have delicious, crisp, refreshing pool water available. But these people, it's crazy to me that there's the Maha movement. These people pretend to be like, we're all about Baja. And then a soda company says people on welfare should drink soda. You want money? And they go, yup. And then they go and tell poor people to drink soda. That's messed up.

[Hotep Jesus]

No, I don't see. I think soda is for guys like me and Phil, you know, like, I'm a huge, muscular guy, right? So, you know, I'm gonna drink a soda before I go to the gym, and it's gonna convert that sugar into energy, right? Sugar for people who are just sitting on the couch, you know, just watching Candace Owens. They're gonna get fat and get a divorce from their husband because he's tired of the true crime stories, right? So that's really like, who should. Definitely not. And that's a lot of the poor people who are not reading books at the UN to the 9th grade level, right? So. And also another thing is when it comes to sugar, there's two parts of your body that Burn the most sugar. The first is your brain, Right. That burns the most sugar, and the second is your legs. So these people aren't walking, they're not squatting, they're not hitting the hack squat, and they're not using their brain. So that's. Now what you're dealing with is people drinking sugar, not using their brain. Now they're coming down with, like, what's it called? Parkinson's. And what's the other?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Well, diabetes.

[Hotep Jesus]

Well, diabetes is, Is upstream from Parkinson's and the other brain diseases that they're finding in the science articles. Now they're starting to find out that diabetes is, Is like a precursor to. What's the other neurodegenerative disease?

[Phil Labonte]

Alzheimer's.

[Hotep Jesus]

Alzheimer's. Those things are, like, downstream from not.

[Tim Pool]

Not to mention insulin resistance.

[Hotep Jesus]

Insulin, yes.

[Tim Pool]

Which is a general phenomenon where Resistance.

[Hotep Jesus]

That's. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So what ends up happening is when you're. When your body's whacked out like this, you get sluggish, you'll be tired.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So people aren't eating protein and they're eating nothing but sugar.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

They're getting sugar and simple carbs. They're eating like a bowl of Mac and cheese with a Pepsi. And there's nothing in that.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

You know what? You know what the secret is? The secret is fat, bro. I ordered a ribeye, a 16 ounce rib eye last Friday, man.

[Hotep Jesus]

Fat is great.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, bro, I. I cut the strip of fat off the ribeye and just eat that first. I'm full instantly.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, healthy fats are great.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, bro. Yeah, I was a filet guy for a long time, okay? Because I love a good filet. But I decided, you know what? I'm gonna get me a ribeye. And I did. And I just love the fatty. Yeah, it's so much better.

[Hotep Jesus]

Healthy fats are good. You know, your body's gonna turn that stuff and turn it into glucose and glucagon and all sorts of stuff. So it's gonna get converted into sugar and turn into energy anyway, that.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we're gonna go to your rumble rats. Rats rumble. Rants and chats, my friend. So smash the, like, button. Share the show. All the good stuff. We are, are we? We're doing the members only tonight.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That's what I heard.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. We're doing it usually because I'm gonna be here all week. Usually when it's like we're about to leave for the holidays, we won't do it because we want to, you know, go pack or whatever. But I'm here All week anyway, so before we go to your rants and chats, we got a great sponsor. It is joincrowdhealth.com so I'm an enrollment, my friend. The season where health insurance companies hope you'll blindly sign up again for overpraid over overpriced premiums and confusing fine print. Don't just take someone else's word. Trust yourself and take control of your future with crowd health, the healthcare alternative for people who make their own decisions. How it works. Basically, for 100 bucks you get access to a team of health bill negotiators, low cost prescription and lab testing tools, as well as a database of low cost, high quality doctors vetted by crowd health. And what if something major happens? You pay the first 500 bucks, then the crowd steps in to help fund the rest. It feels like the options we used to have before Obamacare messed everything up. And of course you'll join the crowd. A group members just like you who want to help pay for each other's unexpected medical events. The system is betting you'll stay stuck in the same overpriced, overcomplicated mess. And this year it's even more complicated because most of the ACA subsidies expire, which means your prices are growing sky high. So far, crowd health members have saved over $40 million in healthcare expenses because they refuse to overpay for healthcare. This open enrollment. Take your power back. Join crowd health. Get started today for 99 bucks. For your first three months using code [e-mail] that's JoinCrowdHealth.com code TIM. CrowdHealth is not insurance. Opt out. Take your power back. It's how we win. Join CrowdHealth.com and I'm going to add to this because we're just talking about these ad reads that you get from these influencers. When we get scripts from our sponsors, we go through them and then I assess them and we'll make changes. And we've done this on nearly every script script we've, we've received because some things I don't think are appropriate to say or I think are wrong or don't apply to me saying like, you know, there'll be a script and it'll be for a product I clearly are not going to use. I gotta, I gotta be honest, guys. There was a commercial on Fox I saw a while ago about some kind of like pain relief thing and it was Charlie Kirk throwing a football and, and he was like, you know, when I, when I get pain from sports or Whatever. I take this, and I'm like, whoa, hold on. Like, Charlie, you're like, in your late 20s. This is a few years ago. I was like, did he really do a commercial like that? But, hey, you know, no disrespect. Maybe he really did have shoulder pain from throwing football. He was an athlete. I think he was. He played football.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. In high school.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. But I'm just like, you're a young guy. You know what I mean? But there, There, we have gotten scripts where I'm just like, clearly, dude, I'm not gonna say, you know, something about, like, I'm an athlete. I skate all the time. I'm. I'm. I'm, you know, fairly fit, low bpm, all that good stuff. So we, We, We. We make sure sponsors are legit and good. And we've actually had one. We've kicked back, like, four times. They keep coming back, trying to fix it. We just like, nah, nah. But we're gonna grab your rants and chats, my friends. Let's see what y' all got going on. Silent golfer says. How many times should General Washington had.

[Phil Labonte]

Have.

[Tim Pool]

Have given up because things almost never went right. Put your trust in the Lord and never give up or give in. Happy Thanksgiving. Shout out. There you go. AK Storm says if this wasn't talked about. Can Tim and Hotep discuss black's reaction to things like the Chicago lady that was set on fire? Pointing out color is getting reaction. Thank you.

[Phil Labonte]

To both.

[Tim Pool]

Is there a different reaction among black people about that lady who got lit on fire?

[Hotep Jesus]

What happened to her?

[Tim Pool]

That. That Bethany McGee, she was sitting on a train in. In. In Chicago, and a black guy who've been arrested 72 times walked up, dumped gasoline on her, and then lit her on fire.

[Hotep Jesus]

That's messed up.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I didn't think there'd be. I think it'd be like, a reaction among.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like, black people are like, no, we're okay with that. I don't think that that would happen.

[Hotep Jesus]

You know, people get shot every day. B.

[Tim Pool]

Well, to be fair, like, what we talked about this is that it wasn't just like a shooting. It was. It was a heinous torture.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Poured gas on her. She ran away. He lit the bottle and followed her and then lit her up.

[Hotep Jesus]

Is he an American?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had been arrested something like 72 times. They kept releasing him.

[Hotep Jesus]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

And then the last time, I guess it was like he got released. Went right to the gas station, filled the bottle up, went on the train, saw. Just dumped Here's.

[Hotep Jesus]

I don't know what black people would say. Here's what Hotel Jesus would say. This was in Chicago.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay. So Chicago is a place that was destroyed. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but it was destroyed by Operation Fast and Furious. Operation Fast and Furious under Obama administration basically allowed the Sinalo cartel almost carte blanche in Chicago and other cities. So a lot of what you're dealing with in Chicago is like fallout from a city that was completely ruined during the Obama eras. They were trafficking guns, they were trafficking drugs. And it makes, like, what the Italian mob did back in the day with Compone look like child's play. Right? So when we're looking at Chicago, you have to understand that before we look at the people, we got to look at the people in charge. If I'm chilling in my neighborhood and you traffic in Sinalo cartel, El Chapo's people, and they get carte blanche, like, I'm talking about catch and release. Catch and release. Oh, you're. You're with Sinalo. We gotta let them go. It ruins the city. Then you follow up with the Democrats, and the Democrats bring in more illegals. And, you know, you have places like the YMCA that's supposed to go to the local people, and you got the illegals camped out in the ymca. So you get a whole lot of fallout is destruction. You should expect things like that to happen.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Let's read some more. We got Indian conservative says Candace has given no receipts for anything. She's the same person who was so against hate speech she would dox for laughs. Giving her attention is what she wants. Jacob Pauli says, sorry, but Candace Owens is having a mental crash out. She's lost it. I'm worried for her health, and I feel that Kirk's ending might have broken her mentally. If anyone knows her, please check up on her now.

[Hotep Jesus]

She just grifted.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Like she's. She. I. I genuinely think she's a genius. I really do. I do. I really do mean this.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, yeah, sure.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

But she. This, this. The thing is, she's always been like this. She's always been a rage baiter. This is not new. It's just that now she's changed views. Right? She went from never Trumper with a dachshund website to, okay, now I'm a Trumper red pill black to I'm pro Israel to I'm anti Israel to, oh, my God, Macron has a penis. Right?

[Tim Pool]

So don't forget the Jews and the Jews, right? Exactly.

[Hotep Jesus]

So, you know, it's.

[Phil Labonte]

It's just.

[Hotep Jesus]

It's the same Candace, New game.

[Tim Pool]

All right, what do we got? Not Robbie says, look up Planned Parenthood shooting in Columbia, South Carolina. Police in Columbia, a Democratic stronghold, arrested a pro lifer who was chased out and shot the man trying to assault him.

[Hotep Jesus]

What? What?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that means that someone was trying to assault him. So it was a defense shooting. It's not a pro life shooting or a. A. An abortion clinic shooting a guy was.

[Tim Pool]

Hold on, hold on. Head of anti abortion group charged in shooting. He was charged.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes. So. Well, that's what it. That's the way I understood what the. The chatter said.

[Tim Pool]

Arrested a pro lifer who was chased down.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Tim Pool]

I thought they were saying the police shot the guy.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

I thought they're saying they arrested the guy who was chased down and shot the man. I thought it was referring to the police shot the man trying to assault the guy.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. The way I understood it was he was a pro lifer. The other guy assaulted him. He shot the guy that assaulted him. And they're. They're. The narrative they're spinning is, oh, there's.

[Tim Pool]

A video of it.

[Phil Labonte]

Guy shot someone, as opposed to.

[Tim Pool]

There's video of it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Boom's leading up to the shooting near.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. It's local news. They're not gonna actually show the shooting.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, no, the. You did not just do that.

[Barry Weiss]

Don't even try to get that at me. Don't ever try to get that at me.

[Hotep Jesus]

Wow, wow, wow.

[Tim Pool]

And wow.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

He's punching them.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, well, hold on. It's the.

[Phil Labonte]

Who's the guy that does the shooting?

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, he got to get both arms in that chokehold. Oh, he got up. Oh, man.

[Tim Pool]

But hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Phil Labonte]

Initiated by macing him.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. This guy's got his hands in his pockets.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah. Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Sorry. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

If you initiate it by macing someone, you're no longer.

[Tim Pool]

Well, there's still some nuance here. The dude who got maced could have fled.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And he chose to then engage.

[Hotep Jesus]

Well, what he could have did was he could have locked in that Rear Naked chokehold better. I mean, you got his back. You don't watch Joe Rogan like you.

[Phil Labonte]

It's true.

[Hotep Jesus]

Like, go. Go to the. Go to the freeze frame where he's got. Right before this moment. If you go back a little bit. Right here.

[Tim Pool]

No, that's.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, that's the other guy, the third guy.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, so he's got a nice reversal game.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know, actually, I'm torn on this one. I'm torn on this one.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Pool]

You can. I think in this capacity, it's fair to say that the macing should be an assault. Yeah. But that doesn't justify the dude chasing him down and then continuing to engage after the fact.

[Phil Labonte]

That's the hard thing about self defense. Stuff like your right to defend yourself literally gets turned on and turned off like a light switch. There, like there is in one frame of it, you're actually defending yourself. And in the next frame you can be in a position where you could have left. So you're no longer defending yourself. You're the.

[Tim Pool]

I actually, I'm sorry, I'm going to, I'm going to go and say this guy should, should get off. It's. I don't think it's the cleanest of self defense. But hold on. The dude, even his hands in his pocket, still got up in his face.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And depending on your state, that can be considered creating a reasonable fear of harm.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So then he used the mace because the guy was getting up close to him and he didn't know if he was going to be attacked.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think that the dude who got maced could have fled and the dude in the, in the, in the vest runs away. You could, it could runs away.

[Phil Labonte]

You could make the argument that it was an escalation of force. So the other guys is, is intimidating him. He decides to mace him. That doesn't work. He tries to disengage by running away. The guy chases him. So I mean, I think, here's how.

[Hotep Jesus]

I view all of these videos. What happened 10 minutes before?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yep.

[Hotep Jesus]

What happened 10 minutes before you started rolling the camera? Until we get that context, it's really hard to do the blame thing because you don't know what was said, what was done. What if you touched somebody, Little sister, you know, we don't know what happened.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, well, I mean, when it comes to a jury, most likely they'll just go by what's actually on the video.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right? That's true. Yes, yes. But I'm saying as far as moral judgment. Yeah, sure, sure.

[Tim Pool]

Off the video I just saw, considering that there may be another context, I think that he should be found not guilty. He ran away. He was running away. Dude who got maced chose to engage when the guy was fleeing.

[Hotep Jesus]

Who, who had the firearm?

[Tim Pool]

The dude in the vest.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. So that dude's running.

[Hotep Jesus]

I thought the other person had the firearm. The third person.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, he's just fighting Some other dude, and he's on the side.

[Tim Pool]

Was it the third person? This guy. I thought the third person has this guy right here.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, I think he's the one with the.

[Tim Pool]

Either way, disengage. It's the dude attacking who got shot.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

So it's clearly in defense of others or yourself.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yes.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The photo of the guy's a vest on with. With the weapon in his hand.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So. So this guy, it looks like he's going for his holster right now.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yep, yep. Yeah, there we go, right there.

[Hotep Jesus]

Is that it right there?

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

So he pulls the gun out.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The guy gets up, he goes to punch someone.

[Tim Pool]

It looks like he's got his gun right now.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, I know that this is.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Phil Labonte]

It's like this for YouTube.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right there. Right there.

[Tim Pool]

He got punched.

[Hotep Jesus]

That's the firearm right there. You see the lady?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, the lady's got one too. But this guy pulls a gun.

[Hotep Jesus]

They both have one. She's got a firearm.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this. Watch. Yeah. He made contact with them already with that hand right there. It looks like. So look, he jumps forward. This hand right here.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Contact. Yes. I recoils.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Then swing. Bang. It's not her who's shooting.

[Hotep Jesus]

It's not her who's shooting. Okay. Because I saw her firearm. I thought she was the one.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Pro lifers are all loaded, ready to go.

[Tim Pool]

I'm. I'm a. So. So look, let's go back right here. You can see him, Man. You can't pause it. See his hand going to his hip?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. It says in the article that he went for his holster.

[Phil Labonte]

Retrieves the.

[Tim Pool]

It looks like he's pulling his gun out.

[Hotep Jesus]

It's hard to tell that's a firearm.

[Tim Pool]

You think he's got one in there?

[Hotep Jesus]

So he just. When he put it up in the air, you could see it. It looked like it, man. One frame back.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Goes fast.

[Tim Pool]

I know. It goes too fast. And as soon you click it.

[Hotep Jesus]

Keep going. One frame after this. One more frame. Keep going.

[Tim Pool]

Nah, I'm pretty sure he went for his holster.

[Hotep Jesus]

No. Yeah, holster. Yeah. I mean, and right here. Bang, bro.

[Tim Pool]

This guy could have. Did not need to chase him down.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Hotep Jesus]

He didn't stop.

[Phil Labonte]

And the other guy did run. He. He tried to disengage. And again, like I said, he did use an escalation of force. He didn't go right for the. The deadly. Deadly weapon. Right. He used the mace. Then he tried to disengage and run. Then he went for the. The firearm after the guy had, you know, put him on the ground.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yo, yo, yo. I mean, hold on. He's. He's charged with assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature. So the guy who got shot is alive.

[Hotep Jesus]

Good.

[Tim Pool]

Possession of a weapon. Weapon during a violent crime. That's nuts, man. I'm not happy with the whole situation for sure, but if you don't chase someone down and keep attacking them.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You can choose. Like, listen, there's a great video. I love it. I recommend it all the time. It's a black belt teaching a class his ultimate technique to win any fight. And he walks in and he's like, once I teach you this one move, you will never lose a fight again.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay?

[Tim Pool]

And then he gets in his stance and then spins around and wiggles his arms and runs away screaming. And then everyone starts laughing and clapping. And he says, if you can choose to avoid a fight, you will not lose it. That's the first thing you should always consider.

[Hotep Jesus]

That's. That's what Bruce Lee says. The art of fighting without fighting.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

The. The fact that he disengaged and tried to run away is going to help his case because he was trying. He. He used non lethal force, then he tried to run. So. All right, obviously you can never tell what a jury is going to say, but the steps that he took, I think that they're going. They. They might say, okay, look, because like I said, you're right to defend yourself. Can turn on and off like a light switch. So.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we got this from Mythos. He says, I've said it before. I'll say it again. Candace Owens has taken so many red pills, she has overdosed and gone bat. Bat. Ish crazy. She needs an involuntary psych hold. Nah, she knows what she's doing. She's very smart. She knows exactly what she's doing. She knows ex. Like, listen, guys, the assumptive reasoning techniques she's using are intentional. They're not accidental.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

She's not accidentally sounding crazy. She's crafting these messages intentionally so that when someone says, hey, wait a minute. Confirmed receipt just means they open an email. And then she goes, of course I meant that the whole time. Yeah, and then when they're like you're implying you're height in hiding because of an assassination. No, it's just Thanksgiving. I never said that. You assumed that.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, she gives her a self and out.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. Indeed. Blave Kaiser says, Candace married an English lord. Can't you just go play piano or polo like a good Aristocrat.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, I love that comment. Who said that? Shout out to that dude, man.

[Tim Pool]

Huey Jack Nation says Candace answers lawyer's office was an RA Richard agent filed for dismissal before Charlie's death due to no local ties. YouTube hates the right. TP USA was the largest influence youth YouTube push her to take out Turning Point.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Is the argument that Candace is so destructive to the right that YouTube is intentionally promoting her?

[Hotep Jesus]

That was my, that was my theory. She's there to destroy maga. Several people are there to destroy maga. But you've got to destroy MAGA before Trump leaves the White House. Because it's the largest populist, this organic movement, semi organic movement to exist since. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Here's how you do it. Charlie, he was, he was holding everything together.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So a conspiracy theory that I would believe more than anything is not that Israel did it and not that Turning Point did it, but that leftists did it because Charlie was the unifying force on the right.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, guess what? Most of the evidence points to a leftist involved or ideological motive. Not that I believe everything they're saying. I think that'd be silly. But I gotta tell you, these conspiracy theories about palm guns and detonating like, bro, if you want me to make something, I'll make something up. I can make up a million and one things too. The gazebo actually was four rifle barrels. They actually, the gazebo arm pointed right at Charlie. Come on, you can make things up. So stupid.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, I was, when I saw that, I was like, oh, we doing too much. What about the time she accused that one kid and he was, and he was like, yeah, I go to this school, I'm a hockey player and I had nothing to do with the assassination. It's like, Candace, you were reaching that straws right now. Poor kid.

[Tim Pool]

DB Ode says, I saw a tweet on Twitter, a tweet on Twitter that read, candace is the prime example of someone who is so open minded that their brain fell out. Hey, man, people, people. I, I, I've been telling people, man, I've bumped into normies and they follow her on every word.

[Phil Labonte]

That's crazy, dude.

[Tim Pool]

Most people I bump into, because this is a question behind the scenes, is, is the public still with Turning Point? And I was like, bro, not that I've seen in the D.C. area. I'm not even talking about rural West Virginia. Yeah, normies who don't pay attention to politics, they watch Candace.

[Hotep Jesus]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

And they're just like, can you believe what Turning Point Israel did to Charlie. And I'm like, what'd they do? And they're like, do you watch Candace Owens? And I'm like, sometimes they believe them.

[Hotep Jesus]

I posted something on my Instagram and, like, one of my, you know, mutuals hit me up and was like, oh, my God, are you really. Are you against Candace or. I can't believe this. And I'm like, wait, are you a Candace fan? And I just sent back. I'm like, man, I feel bad for you, man. I'm like, just watch my show. You can't just watch me like, you're watching Candace. I'm like, you watch my show? Oh, not really. I'm like, that's why you watch Candace. You like garbage.

[Phil Labonte]

It's like the View, but for people that think that they're. They're like, oh, I've got, you know, the outside, the. The normie view. I've got the outside, the normie perspective. So I can't watch the View because they're the normies. I'll watch Candace.

[Hotep Jesus]

And Normie is. And Candace is conspiracy theory Normieville.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. Yeah, unfortunately.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's see. Amos. Amos Moses says Tim harps on tradition, but he won't be having turkey for Thanksgiving. I already did.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely had turkey.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely had turkey. It was delicious.

[Phil Labonte]

It was delicious.

[Tim Pool]

It was smoked.

[Hotep Jesus]

Did you catch it?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Hotep Jesus]

You bought it.

[Tim Pool]

Even though we do have tons of turkey on the property.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They're everywhere.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

They're flying around.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah. So you didn't get one of those?

[Tim Pool]

We just bought one.

[Hotep Jesus]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I don't want a gamey wild turkey. I mean, it could be fun or whatever, but I mean, fun to shoot them. I don't know. To go hunt one and pick one. Like, we're walking around, you're like, I want that one.

[Hotep Jesus]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Then you get them machete. We got. We got. We got all the weapons. We got the. The 410 shotgun with a turkey shot in it.

[Hotep Jesus]

Perfect.

[Tim Pool]

Bam. Yep. I have a Saiga, man, I love the Saiga. Sega saiga. Yeah, the 4 4. It's. It's an AK47 style, but for 410.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Pool]

And I got like a hundred round drum for it.

[Hotep Jesus]

Oh, Lord.

[Tim Pool]

410 shotgun shell.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

A little bit too much for a turkey.

[Tim Pool]

That turkey ain't gonna make it. There's gonna be no meat left, man. I just. I'm just imagining what would happen if I put buckshot in a 12 gauge and fired on one of those turkeys. It just explode.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, definitely. Just blow it up. Absolutely.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Or be like a pain in the butt eating it.

[Tim Pool]

Bring out my KSG25 with buckshot to go hunting turkey. And just all that's left is ground turkey.

[Phil Labonte]

Basically. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If you can get the, if you can get the buckshot out of it, you got ground turkey.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, if it's buck, there's only nine, you know, there's only nine.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, the KSG 25. Oh, well, that's probably 25 shells just. Just vaporizing the turkeys.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there's nothing. There is no longer an inside or an outside of the turkey. I got deer supply of meat.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I got deer slugs, 12 gauge.

[Phil Labonte]

Those will, I mean, that'll just explode it. Then like I said, there's no longer an insider. And outside, it's just, just me.

[Tim Pool]

I was talking to. I was, I was at the gun shop and I was buying gear and jokingly was like, he had deer slugs and I was grabbing them. Like, good for home defense, huh? And he goes, I guess if you want to put a 10 inch hole in the burglar. I mean, sure, I laughed.

[Phil Labonte]

Look.

[Tim Pool]

All right, anyway, enough about.

[Hotep Jesus]

Very good at.

[Phil Labonte]

At dissuading a terrible, terrible opinion that they have.

[Tim Pool]

All right, what do we got here? I can't tell what these people are saying. What is this Cognitive initiative says, hey, Tim, the first time here, I went from black bill to white green pill. This year. What is green pill like gardening. But this Candace, tpoa, Israel, Nick Tucker drama feels like an op. The ground feels like it's eroding under us. Any encouraging words? Hey, look, I said it before, I'll say it again. The tides change. You know, during Occupy, the left loved me. And I. I did not change, they did. And I fully believe the right will morph again as well. And friends will become enemies, enemies will become friends. But there are certain people that we don't give forgiveness to. And I think most of the conservatives we can always end up agreeing with. So we'll see. Is Jank Uygur going to come around? He's come around a lot of issues. He defended Marjorie Taylor Greene recently, which is surprising. And Anna Kasparian is a big fan of Candace Owens. She watches her show.

[Hotep Jesus]

That's because him and Marjorie Taylor Greene are going to have some great collabs in the future.

[Tim Pool]

There you go. All right, my friends, we're going to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone. You know, head over to rumble.com Tim Guest IRL for the uncensored Call in show with our Discord community. If you want to get involved, go to timcast.com click join us. We need you. If you believe in our work, sign up today. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Hotep Jesus. You want to shout anything out?

[Hotep Jesus]

Go watch our new film. The trailer is out walking the code line on my YouTube channel Hotep Jesus. I'm live Monday through Friday 2pm on Kick Kick.com HotepJesus Live. That's my show. Hotep Jesus Live.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Nice friends. I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Find me on X under Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Have a great Thanksgiving. It's going to be a beautiful day, beautiful time with friends and family.

[Phil Labonte]

Drive safe Phil I am Phil that Remains on Twix. The band is all that Remains. You can check out all that Remains music on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Deezer. Have yourself a happy turkey day and don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

We will see you all [e-mail] Timcast IRL thanks for hanging out.

[Hillsdale College Narrator]

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