CEO Assassin Suspect Manifesto LEAKS, SCREAMS Leftist Nonsense At Cops w/Colonel Kurtz

Summary

Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – "CEO Assassin Suspect Manifesto LEAKS, SCREAMS Leftist Nonsense At Cops w/Colonel Kurtz"

Release Date: December 11, 2024
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Kristen (Colonel Kurtz), Ian Crossland, Phil Labonte

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1. Introduction to the Episode

In this hard-hitting episode of Timcast IRL, host Tim Pool delves into the leaked manifesto of Luigi Mangione, the suspected assassin of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Joined by guests Kristen (also known as Colonel Kurtz), Ian Crossland, and Phil Labonte, the panel dissects Mangione's motivations, competence, and the broader implications for American society.

2. Luigi Mangione: The Suspected CEO Assassin

Manifesto Leak and Initial Impressions

Tim Pool kicks off the discussion by addressing the leaked manifesto of Luigi Mangione, highlighting its brevity and lack of coherent argumentation.

• Tim Pool (02:39):
  "It's a two-page manifesto, 262 words, and he outright says he can't articulate his argument. He’s advocating for murder without understanding why. Yikes. These people are dangerously stupid."

Critique of Mangione’s Arguments

The panel critiques Mangione's rationale, particularly his assertion that the U.S. healthcare system is overly expensive yet yields mediocre life expectancy.

• Tim Pool (07:01):
  "He says the US is the most expensive healthcare system, yet we rank 42nd in life expectancy. These things don't correlate. His lack of understanding led him to a violent act."

• Phil Labonte (10:29):
  "Why is paying for care such a problem? It’s convoluted."

Mental Health and Motivations

Discussions touch upon Mangione's alleged back injury, possible mental health struggles, and his misguided attempts to find meaning.

• Kristen (11:10):
  "It seems like a great degree of mental illness maybe exacerbated by... a muddled mind."

• Ian Crossland (11:28):
  "Involuntary celibate without any... making choices that lead to disinterest."

Possible Leftist Influence and Misguided Ideologies

The panel explores whether Mangione was influenced by leftist ideologies, reading distorted information from unreliable sources like Reddit.

• Tim Pool (12:32):
  "He read stupid garbage on the Internet and decided to end someone's life."

• Phil Labonte (16:37):
  "The left has convinced simple people it’s a simple idea. Power games at play."

3. UFOs and Drones Over New Jersey

Reports of High-Tech Drones

Tim Pool shifts the conversation to recent reports of sophisticated drones causing disruptions over New Jersey, questioning whether these are advanced military technologies or part of a governmental UFO program.

• Tim Pool (04:28):
  "Apparently, the US has released images of UFOs from the Immaculate Constellation program. We’re going to talk about all of that."

Government Involvement and Public Concern

The discussion highlights increasing public curiosity and concern over unidentified aerial phenomena, emphasizing the government's role in either clarifying or obfuscating the situation.

4. Healthcare System Critique

Cost vs. Life Expectancy

The panel critiques the American healthcare system's inefficiency, noting its high costs juxtaposed with low global rankings in life expectancy.

• Kristen (14:41):
  "The frustration with our healthcare system points to government interference and regulation."

• Phil Labonte (32:15):
  "If you make healthcare a market, prices would drop significantly. It's overregulated."

Private Insurance and Accessibility Issues

Tim Pool and guests discuss how tying health insurance to employment introduces barriers and inefficiencies in accessing healthcare.

• Tim Pool (34:02):
  "Why should your health insurance be attached to a job? Prices are convoluted due to lack of competition."

• Phil Labonte (33:07):
  "Companies use benefit packages creatively to navigate tax laws, complicating the system further."

5. Immigration and the 14th Amendment

Trump's Potential Executive Order

Tim Pool speculates on former President Donald Trump's possible executive order to end birthright citizenship, analyzing its constitutional implications.

• Tim Pool (50:16):
  "Section 1 of the 14th Amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the U.S. are citizens. Do you think Trump can override this with an executive order?"

Understanding 'Subject to the Jurisdiction'

The conversation delves into the historical context and intended meaning of the 14th Amendment's phrasing, questioning its current interpretation related to immigration.

• Phil Labonte (53:13):
  "The government shouldn't have to manage every aspect of citizenship. It's primitive to think an Ivy League graduate from the past couldn't adapt."

• Kristen (54:53):
  "They just didn't anticipate air travel and mass immigration. The Constitution is a static document unless amended."

Potential Legal and Social Ramifications

Guests discuss the likelihood of legal challenges and the societal impact of redefining birthright citizenship.

• Tim Pool (55:21):
  "The Supreme Court might agree with Trump, but it’s controversial how they’re interpreting jurisdiction."

6. Political Violence and Predictions

Recent Violent Incidents

The episode covers recent acts of political violence, including the assault on Representative Nancy Mace and other violent incidents linked to political tensions.

• Phil Labonte (76:31):
  "Anthony Nephew killed his ex-wife and two sons over the election. The motive remains unclear."

Rudyard's Predictions

Tim Pool addresses Rudyard's dire predictions of escalating political violence, analyzing their plausibility based on current events.

• Tim Pool (74:35):
  "Rudyard predicted 1,000 politically motivated deaths by April. We've seen two so far. Do you think we will see 1,000 by then?"

• Phil Labonte (76:38):
  "I hope Rudyard is wrong. The actual number is likely much lower."

7. Economic Policies and Taxation

Critique of the Tax Code

Tim Pool and guests discuss how the current tax system disproportionately affects the working class, creating barriers to wealth accumulation.

• Sovereign Fish (120:28):
  "The tax code keeps the working class working. The glass ceiling around 2 to 3 million is hard to break."

Loopholes for the Wealthy

The conversation highlights how the wealthy exploit tax loopholes, such as hiring family members at inflated salaries through legitimate business practices.

• Tim Pool (83:07):
  "You have to officially document job roles and market rates to avoid audits. It’s overly complicated."

• Kristen (64:43):
  "High earners use trusts and corporations to funnel wealth without direct taxation."

8. Energy and Infrastructure Discussions

Advancements in Battery Technology

Guests discuss promising developments in battery technology, including solid-state batteries and diamond batteries, emphasizing their potential impact on energy storage and transportation.

• Ian Crossland (94:07):
  "Diamond batteries using nuclear waste could revolutionize energy storage with slow energy pulses."

Nuclear Energy as a Solution

Phil Labonte advocates for nuclear energy as a viable solution to the U.S. energy problems, especially when paired with improved battery technologies.

• Phil Labonte (105:28):
  "Nuclear is the way forward. With advanced batteries, we can efficiently store and use nuclear energy."

Hydrogen Fuel and Infrastructure

The panel explores hydrogen as a transportable and efficient fuel source, discussing the necessary infrastructure changes required to integrate hydrogen into the existing energy grid.

• Ian Crossland (90:40):
  "Hydrogen is transportable and could replace carbon-based fuels if we retrofit methane pipes."

9. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

Reflection on Current Events and Future Outlook

As the episode concludes, Tim Pool and his guests reflect on the intertwined issues of political violence, healthcare inefficiencies, immigration reforms, and economic policies, underscoring the need for comprehensive and rational solutions.

• Tim Pool (99:57):
  "Healthcare failures won't get covered up due to scaling problems. We need systemic changes."

• Kristen (106:00):
  "Despite the show's conservative slant, there's a unanimous recognition of the healthcare system's flaws across demographics."

Announcements and Promotions

The episode wraps up with standard announcements regarding upcoming members-only content and promotional deals, maintaining the show's engagement with its audience.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tim Pool (07:01):
  "He says the US is the number one most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly 42nd globally. This appears to be his reasoning for targeting the CEO."

• Phil Labonte (32:15):
  "The left has convinced simple people that it's a simple idea: healthcare is desirable and good. Companies making profits from healthcare are the evil ones."

• Tim Pool (50:16):
  "Section 1 of the 14th Amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside."

• Kristen (54:53):
  "They just didn't anticipate air travel and mass immigration. The Constitution is a static document unless amended."

• Phil Labonte (105:28):
  "Nuclear is the way forward. With advanced batteries, we can efficiently store and use nuclear energy."

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This episode of Timcast IRL offers a critical examination of recent violent actions against corporate leaders, the complexities of the American healthcare and immigration systems, and the potential for significant policy shifts under future administrations. Through incisive analysis and strong opinions, Tim Pool and his guests provide listeners with a provocative perspective on pressing societal issues.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

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[Ian Crossland]

That's right.

[Tim Pool]

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[Kristen]

Hello. What's up?

[Tim Pool]

Well, who you are, you're not actually the Colonel Kurtz.

[Kristen]

I am.

[Tim Pool]

You are?

[Kristen]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

You stole the name.

[Kristen]

Just got back from my third tour in Nam.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah. So who are you? What do you do?

[Kristen]

So my name is Kristen. I have been on the show before actually, or the culture war. And I talked about my time in academia as a lecturer of English. So got my PhD in English, spent many years in the academy and started a YouTube channel and started out covering mostly me too. Scams like the Johnny Depp hoax and the Marilyn Manson MeToo hoax and expanded in some other stuff. I talk about politics at times and of course film.

[Tim Pool]

All right. On. Well, thanks for hanging out.

[Kristen]

Thank you for having me here.

[Tim Pool]

Ian's here.

[Ian Crossland]

I thought you said of course Phil, who we also have on the show. But he said film. Film. You said film.

[Kristen]

I have a whole side channel where we talk about Phil.

[Ian Crossland]

Who doesn't talk about Phil Labonte. Ladies and gentlemen, Phil Labonte, lead singer of all that Remains in the House. I'm going to intro Phil tonight. He's a great guy, super logical, really open minded.

[Tim Pool]

Anti communist.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, counter revolutionary fun to go on long car rides with Philabonti. Ladies and gentlemen, Philabonti Ian Crossland.

[Phil Labonte]

Everyone. He's here. He is thinking about graphene, per the norm. I am Philanti, just like Ian said. Anti communist, counter revolutionary, lead singer of all that remains. Let's. Let's get started.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. We got the story from the Post of millennial manifesto of UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect released. So normally, I gotta tell you, I actually don't like showing the pictures, the names and the manifestos of these people who do these things, because that was what they were trying to do. This dude clearly was trying to get his name out there, get attention and push this. Cause he. So during the police transfer earlier, he was screaming leftist guardable nonsense about his lived experience. I am not exaggerating. We'll talk about in a second. But considering the ubiquity of this guy's profile and what he represents, it's. Now, it's not something you can ignore. In a lot of these circumstances, the media might say, like, hey, look, we don't want to give this person attention who's trying to get it. Everybody and their grandmother is trying to give this guy attention. The left is cheering for him. So I think it would be prudent to actually look at what his motivations are so we can rip them to shreds. Because if we don't, the left is sharing the manifesto. They're talking about wanting to have adult relations with him, and they're cheering for him. But the guy's a moron. Now, look, I. I completely disagree with, I don't know, like, murdering a dad in cold blood in the middle of the street. I. I just think that's wrong. Forgive me. The left seems to be for it, but when you actually read the guy's manifesto, I was dumbfounded at how stupid he is. And again, I'm stressed. I want to stress. I'm not saying that it'd be motion. I am not saying that because I disagree with him and I think he's a bad guy. No, I think he's a bad guy and I think he's, you know, I disagree with his political views, but holy crap, his manifesto articulates nothing. He correlates things that don't make sense and then literally says, I can't articulate this. Other people will have to. And it's like, so you're a crazy moron. I think it's important people know this so we can mock these leftists. Who would cheer for someone this dumb. The Post Millennial says the alleged handwritten manifesto. The suspect in the assassination style shooting of CEO Brian Thompson has been obtained and published by Ken Klippenstein. Luigi Mangione was arrested in Altoona, Pa on Monday. It was found a 3D printed gun, ammunition and fake IDs. Man Jione Perk. Lippenstein, who also published the mugshot, said he wasn't working with anyone. The parasites had it coming. He references the American healthcare system comprised primarily of private insurance companies, saying that it is the most expensive in the world, but that American life expectancy is 42nd globally. This appears to be his reasoning for targeting the CEO. Brian Thompson. UnitedHealthcare is the largest private insurer in the U.S. he was denied bail. It goes on to basically read like of the whole manifesto. I don't want to read the whole thing outright just because. Well, I mean, maybe we should read.

[Kristen]

It's so short.

[Tim Pool]

It's really short. Right, right. And I want to stress this. Normally I don't want to be like, look at what he said. But I actually think we should read it because the guy's so dangerously stupid he should be mocked and anybody who supports him should be laughed at. So he says to the feds, I'll keep this short because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly I wasn't working with anyone. It was fairly trivial. Some elementary social engineering, basic cad, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and to do lists. That's the ultimate gist of it. He says his tech is pretty much locked down, blah, blah, blah. He goes on to say, the US is the number one most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly 42nd in life expectancy. Now I want to pause there and just say that right there is where you're like, wow, he's really dumb. Those things don't correlate. Okay? The issue with our life expectancy has a lot to do with everything RFK Jr has been saying. When you go to a Chinese food restaurant, this is one example, okay? And you say, I would like Chinese food. Actually, how many of you guys watch Tulsa King? You watch Tulsa King? So you know that scene where Ming, I think his name was, he's like, I came here as a young child, he's Chinese. And he goes, I work in a Chinese food restaurant. I don't recognize it. Yeah, deep fried chicken balls soaked in sugar syrup. This is what people eat on a regular basis. So the problem he's seeing is that American has a sick culture with mass produced garbage, food and chemicals. And then he blames our healthcare Industry on it. Perhaps the reason the healthcare industry is so expensive, because Americans are morbidly obese sick, don't exercise and eat garbage. So he really doesn't, he doesn't understand that. And from that lack of understanding, because he's a really dumb guy, he killed somebody. Here's my favorite part, he says, but many have eliminated the corruption and greed, eg. Rosenthal and more, decades ago, and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Let me, let me, let me read the sentence before his. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space and frankly, I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.

[Kristen]

Honest there, I guess.

[Tim Pool]

So this is just, it sounds like the story of a dude who left his parents house. They say he's Ivy League, he's valedictorian. I'm like, yeah, he's institutionalized. He spent all of his years in institutionalized learning facilities, got out, allegedly did a bunch of psychoactive drugs and then said, you know what? I can't actually make the argument. I don't know. But someone has to do something and then kills a rant, kills a random guy unrelated to whatever his problem is.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, he's, I mean, there's, there's a lot of talk about his back issues. So he got a back injury. He's alleged to have had a back injury and reportedly had it his whole life.

[Tim Pool]

It's a disorder where his lower spine was misaligned, causing a slipped disc.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

That's what they're reporting. And then the back injury story was that he was at a surf retreat and after wiping out, it exacerbated his existing condition, leaving him bedridden for a week.

[Phil Labonte]

But so, so the, the, the, what's the grievance, though? Obvious. Exactly. The obvious logic, right? That, that you would think the back injury leads to him being unable to enjoy life. Can't. I heard that he can't, you know, he can't go out with girls, he can't perform sexually. It's too painful for him to try and have intercourse. So he blames the health insurance company for a chronic back injury. And also the guy comes from means he went to an extremely expensive school. Why is paying for, you know, care such a problem?

[Tim Pool]

That. That was it. He was an incel. He literally was he. Because of his lower back issue. He couldn't, I guess. And this is what the reports are saying, and it's a bunch of, you know, hey, I know this guy. Here's what happened according to like Reddit posts and what they think in media and these are rumors, maybe they're not true. According to roommates, his hips and lower back, he had a difficult time moving them without nerve pain. Anybody who's ever pinched a nerve knows you ain't moving if you've got a pinched nerve. And so because of this, apparently some guy said that he had talked to him directly. They were at a surf retreat and Manjone said he was unable to be intimate with women because of the spinal issue.

[Ian Crossland]

That's the literal definition of incel.

[Tim Pool]

Involuntary celibate without any.

[Ian Crossland]

Like a lot of people sitting in their house eating too much pizza with zits and like I can't get a woman. That's not really involuntary, that's making choices that lead you to a place where they're not interested in you. But this guy literally apparently could not perform.

[Kristen]

It seems like the underlying issue here is, is some great degree of mental illness maybe exacerbated by. I know you mentioned psychedelics, but I just wonder too, what all was he taking either officially or unofficially for this back pain? And it just seems like a muddled mind.

[Phil Labonte]

So he had a book list of some sort. I forget what it's a. I think it's a right good reads. Yeah. And he. There was a bunch of books about psilocybin and other hallucinogens or psychoactive drugs or whatever.

[Kristen]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Which doesn't, you know, that's not a good thing if you're depressed. Which it's, you know, again, these are all. This is all alleged to be. But if he's depressed because he has chronic massive back pain that inhibits his, that is degraded his quality of life considerably, taking, you know, psilocybin or taking magic mushrooms probably isn't a great idea. But even still to me I'm still missing what the actual motivation to kill a health insurance CEO is.

[Tim Pool]

He read threads on Reddit. I'm not being funny, he read half brained crackhead arguments on Reddit where he literally says we have the most expensive healthcare, but we are 42nd in life expectancy. And it's like, listen, listen. Healthcare and life expectancy aren't necessarily the same thing. Getting a broken bone set isn't necessarily going to correlate directly to longevity. But he's not smart enough to understand that. So he's reading stupid garbage on the Internet. Right. Okay, look, this is akin to saying leftists do this all the time. Did you know there are more empty homes than homeless people? Duh and then the response in their minds is we could literally put a homeless person in an empty house. Problem solved. And it's, and it's just like, you know what happens if you put a homeless person in an empty house? Hey, Jordan Neely was given housing. Did you know that after Jordan Neely got arrested the 50th time or whatever it was after the arrest for punching the 67 year old woman in the face, reportedly he got treatment and housing and two weeks later he skipped and left. So you can't just put them in houses, but this is what they do. They can't actually look at causation, they can't look at nuance. He just read something dumb on the Internet and then decided to end someone's life.

[Ian Crossland]

And like if he was tripping. We were kind of talking before the show about if psychedelics are good or bad, just drugs in general. And the whole conversation, like you were saying, Phil, they're an enhancer. And from my experience, psychoactives enhance your mood. If your mood is terrible, they make it more terrible. And if it's good, they make it more good. So if this guy's seriously depressed and taking psychedelics, I can see him making crazy, unattached associations and just out of anger and like grabbing at stupid.

[Kristen]

Yeah, it's like a disordered mind. It's like, it reminds me of, you know, in A Beautiful Mind or something. And go in there and there's all this stuff on the wall. I don't know if we can read too much into this, but I do think though that the symbolism that it's taken on in our culture is interesting and obviously it's completely messed up that people are lionizing him as a hero. But I do think it points to an underlying frustration that a lot of people have with our healthcare system and how screwed up it is.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but this is something that we, I talked about last or I mentioned last night. Like the, the frustration with our health healthcare system is actually our frustrate. Is a frustration with the government and with the way that our health care is structured more than, well, the system. Yes, but it's not the companies that are at fault. Why should your, your health insurance or why should your healthcare be attached to a job? Why can't you go to a doctor and say, hey, I don't have this, I don't have a job that I don't have my health insurance or health. Yeah, health insurance through a job. I just want to go ahead and pay you for this because I want this. I want this service provided you can't really do that because prices are not attached to the purchaser doesn't actually see the prices because of the way that healthcare is. So it convolutes the market and you don't have the same kind of competition that you do in other markets. And so this is a complex topic that's actually fairly nuanced when it comes down to it. But because the left is still fair, still kind of ascendant when it comes to narrative building, the left has convinced simple people that it's a simple idea, healthcare is desirable and good. And because there are people that make profit off of healthcare or in any way, they're the evil ones. When someone dies because they don't get the healthcare, and it's not that simple. And to say that it's that simple, it causes people that are, like Tim says, dumb to do things that are aggressive and acting out and violent. And it's a bad. I mean, it's just a bad deal. Anytime you allow the left to build the narrative around anything, it works in a very simple way. The people that don't get what they want are the oppressed. The people that have power are the oppressors. And the people that don't get what they want have the right to kill or steal from the people that do. That's it. It's the simple equation.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this next story from the New York Post. Guys, Luigi Mangione, yeah, he's not a right winger. He's not anti woke, He's a leftist. Okay, Accused CEO murderer Luigi Mangione grins at hearing to fight extradition to New York after screaming outburst on the way in. Well, let me play the video for you over here from ABC News. And you can hear him rant and what he said is leftist coded language. So there's another story, and I want to stress where they're saying that a friend of his says he was anti woke. No, spare me. Dude, listen, okay, so if you couldn't hear it, we have a transcription. They say it's completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people. And the lived experience. He likely wanted to say more after that, but lived experience is literal leftist coded cult language.

[Kristen]

The dead giveaway. Yeah, listen, it's like saying my truth.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry, up there with the lived experience is such an esoteric phrase that if you went to any mall in this country and walked to someone and said, what's your define Lived experience? They would go, huh? Like, you mean like life experience? What does that mean. But if you're in the cult, you know exactly what's being said. Okay. That is not something like, you have to be in the culture.

[Kristen]

No right winger is going to talk about lived experience. No, it's.

[Ian Crossland]

So, Normie, how is, what is your life like? Is the way I would ask a question like that. But I think they're more. What that question means is your lived experiences. How do you perceive the way you're being treated by your surroundings? How do you feel? Not necessarily wronged, but what. How do you feel? How. How do you feel you've been treated by your surroundings? Different than, like, what's your life like? Like, what is your life like? What's your lived experience?

[Phil Labonte]

Experience. Yeah. How did you experience their subjective experience?

[Kristen]

So it stops any kind of objective conversation of like, no, this is my lived experience.

[Tim Pool]

You know what's funny about this is this guy is like an Ivy Leaguer, right? And we're supposed to assume that he's a smart guy and like, wow, he had the dream life. But I just want to express to people back in the day when, when university was unattainable, when it was very difficult and you had to be wealthy and these are long standing institutions. Yeah. The smartest people got to go to them for the most part. Now anyone who wants to take out massive five figure loans can go to them just because, you know. Actually, what, what show was I watching? It was a Tulsa King, I think. I just, I just binged the whole thing and I think he's talking to Sylvester Stallone's, talking to the kid and he says the point of a degree is so that you can prove to your boss that you'll sit down, shut up, and do as you're told for a long period of time. That's what a degree gets you. That's why they'll hire you.

[Kristen]

It's like a finishing school in a way.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

This guy, I bet, had really good ability to memorize information. Like if he was this. I don't know that he's actually the killer. It's still alleged.

[Tim Pool]

Seemingly uninterested in actually looking for the information.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, he is like, I just, I just can't put these things together, but these are the ideas I have learned. And if he was a methodical killer, the way he did it was very like planned and scripted and done.

[Kristen]

They thought he was like igniting a spark. I've seen some people comparing him to the, the Robert Palmer idea, you know, from Fight Club, which, you know, I love that movie, but it's It's a silly comparison, but.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

He probably thought Robert Paulson.

[Kristen]

Robert Paulson, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Don't be smart. Not among a bunch of millennial men.

[Kristen]

There's only two stone together.

[Ian Crossland]

So this. I think I would give him high intelligence, low wisdom, if I have to make him a D and D character.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe I think you're wrong.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, he's able to memorize. If he's valedictorian, he's obviously got memorization.

[Tim Pool]

Capability, but that's not intelligible.

[Ian Crossland]

His ability to associate ideas is lacking.

[Tim Pool]

Like, there are people who are developmentally disabled who can remember every moment of their life and they couldn't drive a car.

[Ian Crossland]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Actually, this is true, too. There are some people who are not developmentally disabled, but there's a phenomenon where they have perfect recall, and it's considered to be some kind of a disability because it actually is difficult to navigate the present. So there are people. You can go to them and say, September 17, 2013, 5:00am and they will literally tell you exactly what they were doing.

[Ian Crossland]

Fascinating. Yeah, fascinating. They call them savants. Savant was like a term that they would use.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, they were terrible at a lot of things, but very good at that one.

[Tim Pool]

This guy doesn't seem smart in any respect.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, if he was valedictorian, he must have had memorization. Cape. And the way that. That. That murder was carried out was, like, very methodical. But then he's found with the IDs, not very smart. That's not smart.

[Tim Pool]

Unless. Unless some people are speculating he was intending to get caught so that he could have these lived, experience outbursts with the police.

[Ian Crossland]

Right. The way he screamed and experience. I was like, that's the guy.

[Tim Pool]

But I actually was thinking this. Why. Why was he. Why was he sitting in McDonald's with a backpack full of all this stuff? Right after the killing, there was a debate in the media as to whether or not it was a lover's tryst or related to ransomware or ideological. We don't know. And so if this dude, he's accused, he's not confirmed, but if he's ideologically driven, he's going, no, no, no, no, no. I should be obvious. Should be obvious why I did it. So he knew he had to get caught so that he could make sure the narrative was his political health insurance is confusing, expensive, and frustrating. And claim denials are becoming more and more common. In fact, one in five Obamacare claims were denied last year. That's just unacceptable. The headache of health insurance is exactly why crowd health was created. It's not health insurance. It's a better way to pay for health care through crowdfunding. So stop sending money to big insurance companies who profit off of not paying your bills, and check out Crowd Health. For $175 for an individual or $575 for a family of four or more, you'll get access to a community of people who are willing to help out in the event of a real emergency. You'll get access to telemedicine visits, discounted prescriptions, and so much more without doctors networks getting in the way. And of course, you'll join the crowd, a group of members just like you who want to help pay for each other's unexpected medical events. Their care advocates will assist you in finding the right doctor, expertly negotiate your health bills, and manage crowdfunding for unexpected expenses. All this personalized support is an extra It's a fundamental part of your crowd health membership. Let crowd health help you with your health care needs. Get started today for just $99 per month for your first three months by using code Tim [e-mail] Crowd health is not insurance. Learn more at joincrowdhealth. Com. That's joincrowdhealth.com code Tim cast the ideology the October 15th deadline has passed. Are you prepared for what's coming? Do you owe back taxes? Are your tax returns still unfiled? Miss the deadline to file for an extension. Now that October 15th is behind us, the IRS may be ramping up enforcement. You could face wage garnishments, frozen bank accounts, or even property seizures if you haven't taken action yet. But there's still hope. Tax Network USA has helped taxpayers save over $1 billion in tax debt and has filed over 10,000 tax returns. They specialize in helping people like you reduce their tax burdens, and they can help you to don't wait any longer. Visit tnusa.com Tim Pool or call 1-800-958-1000 for a free consultation. Their experts will walk you through a few simple questions to see how much you can save. Act now before the IRS takes more aggressive steps. Take control today. Visit tnusa.com/tim pool or call 1-800-958-1000.

[Ian Crossland]

I think that's true, even if it was a subconscious, but I think so. I think that's literally he wanted this narrative to get pushed.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, didn't he? Didn't he live in when was the last Place that we know that he lived. I thought it was in Honolulu. Right. So, I mean, look, it's not, it's a, you know, it's not easy to get to Hawaii. You need to get on a plane. And once, you know, the pictures got out, he was, it was, it was unlikely that he would be able to make it through an airport considering he got ID'd in a McDonald's. So maybe he didn't have anywhere to go.

[Tim Pool]

You see those pictures from McDonald's though. He was wearing an orange beanie and a black poofy jacket. And I gotta be honest, like I see a bunch of people on X saying, how did anyone recognize him as the, as the shooter? That's eyebrows. But, but he was wearing a brown beanie. He was wearing totally different clothes. And there's a photo of him from like decently close to him. And it's like, did someone walk up to him and snap a picture and call the cops?

[Kristen]

I don't know. I'm always amazed in these situations when people in the common world, in the real world identify these people. Because even if I recognize someone or think I do, I'm still going to be like, eh, I'm probably wrong. But there are people who just, they see someone and they're like, I think that's the guy. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I will go ahead. I will add. A lot of people come up to me and say, you know, you look like this guy Tim Pool.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They don't just say, hey, I'm a big fan. They say, you look like this guy. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

A couple weeks ago, you look like that guy on Tim Cast.

[Kristen]

I'm like, I would just. Yeah. I've just assumed that I'm getting it wrong. Right. And so it's interesting to me how some people actually are just so sure I recognize that guy.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe it's this simple. We didn't hear all of the stories where the tips failed. Right. So for all we know, in like, I don't know, Westchester, Pennsylvania, somebody called the cops saying, I think I found the guy. And there's local cops not doing anything and they say, we'll drive down, take a look. They drive up and they see some random guy and they go, that's just a random guy. If that happens 10,000 times, no one's going to hear about it. But the one time it does, they got him. Yeah, right.

[Ian Crossland]

This guy has a stark face too. He has got a really, really kind of a standout face. If he didn't want to get caught, he should have shaved his eyebrows.

[Phil Labonte]

I guess in retrospect, I mean, the eyebrows were defin. A distinguishing feature on him or a distinctive feature. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't. I'm not the kind of person that sits there and, and like, is like, is looking around, who's this guy who, you know, who's that, does that, blah, blah, blah.

[Kristen]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

So I, I probably wouldn't have been like, yo, that's the dude. Because again, thick eyebrows is real. It was real tough to be like, that's the guy.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I, I just, I wonder why it is we found out this guy's literal life story. We know about every drug he's taken, every book he's read, his opinions on the Unabomber, and we've learned nothing of Trump's assassin.

[Ian Crossland]

Attempted assassin. Failed assassin.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry, Failed assassin.

[Ian Crossland]

Talking about Thomas Crooks.

[Tim Pool]

Nobody knows anything about him. He just showed up one day and slipped through like a doily snake. Made it to the top of that building that someone that nobody was on top of for some reason. And this guy, it's like within a couple days, it's like, we can tell you how many, like, zits he's had.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, this is like that underwater submersible implosion taking the world's attention by storm where everyone's interested in finding this.

[Tim Pool]

What, what drugs has he stocked in Rush? Was that his name?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

The owner of the submersible? I don't know.

[Kristen]

I mean, you don't really think that it's a, it's a conspiracy in this case, though, right? With this, this.

[Tim Pool]

No, no.

[Kristen]

You think it's alone? Yeah, I mean, but I understand the frustration that people feel about the way that the Trump assess assassination attempt just sort of slipped away.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, in secret.

[Tim Pool]

No, no. What I'm saying is, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy to cover anything up. I don't know. I certainly think the official narrative on the Trump assassination is complete nonsense.

[Ian Crossland]

Attempt. Attempted assassination.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry.

[Ian Crossland]

Must manifest that the attempt failed.

[Tim Pool]

It failed. But what. There's a lot of people who are saying this is a psyop because when they first released the person of interest photos, I'm like, that's not the same guy. You look at the picture of the, the video of the assassination of the CEO, that was weird. The picture of the CEO, and it looks like he has a little heavier set and he seems to have thinner eyebrows and appears to be older, but.

[Ian Crossland]

Who knows because the camera was above. I heard you say that and it didn't make sense. He did look heavier, but it might have been the angle of the camera pointing.

[Tim Pool]

There's two different camera angles. And his jacket could be poofy because wearing a sweater, who knows, he had.

[Ian Crossland]

A bunch of gear on him.

[Tim Pool]

He could have had two jackets on because he wanted to pull one off and throw it away.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I would read two missions that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, but so, so that's why I'm saying, like at the time I thought when they, when they said, here's a photo of a person of interest, everybody said that's the shooter. And I'm like, hold on there. This has happened before where people rush to accuse a person of interest of being the shooter or the bomber. And I'm not going to name the specific instance, but 10 years ago there was a very, very serious incident where the wrong person was ID'd. And it caused a lot of problems. And I'm like, a person of interest could be a guy they saw on camera give him a high five. And they're like, how does that person numb? We want to talk to him.

[Kristen]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

But everybody just said it was the shooter. Well, now they're saying it was.

[Ian Crossland]

So, you know, and I think you mentioned that the health care industry, the whole system is kind of busted up. Like the whole pharmaceutical industry, the food and drug admin. Food and drug. But the way that they'll create, you know, toxic chemicals in the food supply that will then poison people and then they feed them medicine and they profit off of both arms. Like, I think. I don't think there's a silver bullet. I don't think that there is an immediate drastic solution like what this guy thought, that ending, if this was the guy killing a CEO is going to solve anything. That's why I support RFK in. In positions of power in the government, because I think it's a long, slow. We got into this in a long, slow way and it's going to be a long, slow path out by. I heard they're going to maybe ban red 40 out of the red three. Red three. One of the. One of the red azo dies out of the food supply, which is like, hey man, that's a step.

[Phil Labonte]

Honestly, I think the fastest way to do it is to limit the government's ability or limit the government's involvement. If you put healthcare, not health insurance, but if you put care on the market, if you make. If they said that the hospitals and doctors, they have to put their prices, make their prices available for people to look at and make it possible for you to go from one doctor to another doctor and try out, see, hey, this doctor will do the procedure I want for cheaper. Unless you're dealing with something that's really, really bad or like specialized, like cancer. When it comes to, like, you know, broken legs or broken bones, or if you need, you know, you need antibiotics because you got an infection, you got a cut that's infected or whatever, if you put that stuff on the market, you'll see the price of healthcare, that kind of healthcare go down significantly really, really, really fast.

[Ian Crossland]

That'd be great.

[Phil Labonte]

The fact of the matter. And you shouldn't need, you should not need insurance because you broke a bone.

[Kristen]

Well, I think one of the things that we could do a better job of really trying to foreground for people is just the sheer massive, unnecessary amount of bureaucracy. Bureaucracy involved now. And, you know, like, for instance, I mean, I know doctors who've been in the industry for decades, and they're, they're counseling people, don't get into this industry because you're going to spend 90% of your time doing paperwork. 90% of a doctor's time spent doing paperwork. And a lot of that is tied up with the government and government requirements. And so I think that these are things that should be foregrounded in any discussion.

[Phil Labonte]

But this is, this is my exact point. And when it comes to the healthcare situation in the United States, this is probably where I am most libertarian, because people, it's not a market at all. There's no competition. The insurance companies pay the doctors, the doctors put prices that are exorbitant because they can, you know, I mean, you hear people talking about, you know, 50 bucks for two Tylenol when they were in or whatever. Like, these kind of things should not be, they should not cost as much as they, as they do. And if you had a market where you, where there was competition, all of these things would drop significantly. I got Lasik in my, like, lasers shot in my eyes, like 13 years ago in 2012. And it was very inexpensive, considering the procedure then. And I imagine it's significantly less money now.

[Tim Pool]

This is why people go to Mexico for healthcare 100%. That's nuts. Everybody, Everybody I know, okay, not literally everybody. I have tons of friends who are just like, if you can take a ride down to Tijuana, you're going to get like. I was talking to Luke about it. Luke was saying, like, they do. What do they do? They do this thing where to make the dental work heal faster. They will take your own blood, spin down, like, spin it to get the platelets and then inject the platelets so that it heals real quick.

[Ian Crossland]

That prp, platelet rich plasma, something like that.

[Tim Pool]

And it's like things they don't do in the US they do down there for like a fraction of the price. It's wild. Yeah. And it's about, it's regulation. It's not that we can't do it, it's that they're over regulated.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it is. And it's, I think the reason it's overregulated is because they want to mitigate harm. They want to make sure that on the off chance of the 99 people to get the project, one of the people is going to be hurt. They're like no, then you can't do the project.

[Tim Pool]

But when it comes, I don't agree. Well why do you think it's over regulated? I think it's more like the government comes up to the doctor and says hey, maybe you give us a little piece of what you're doing and you come to us before you do it. And they're like that's going to take me months. Well, we want a little taste.

[Phil Labonte]

It started because the government wanted to put controls on how much money people could be paid. So in response companies started saying, well we'll offer this benefit package, we'll pay for your health, health care, we'll pay for this, we'll pay for that. So there were addition when the government stepped in and said you can't pay these people more than this because this job is only worth this much, etc, then the companies had to come up with other ways to attract the best workers. So the way that they did it was they came up with benefit packages.

[Tim Pool]

And people don't know this. I think, I think everybody should know this. I as an employer cannot legally hire a janitor and pay him six figures. You can't, I cannot do it.

[Ian Crossland]

Is he said like tax or something?

[Tim Pool]

Yes, you have to, you are required to write out what the job position is and the rate must be market. There's a range and if you are overpaying you're going to get audited. Now depending on the size of the company. Yeah, people don't know this stuff. So I remember when we first started this company, I was like, I was like hey, I want to buy my mom a house, you know, you know, like my mom deserves a house and I, I have, I have a successful show. And they said well you can't do that. I was like what do you mean I can't why can't I? I was like, I got money now, right? I could buy a house. You take it a loan, and, you know, pay the down payment. I'm like, no, no. And like, no, that. That would be an illegal gift. Now, if you want to family.

[Phil Labonte]

How crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Now, there are. There are certain things. You can file up to $15,000 this year. You can gift somebody, and you don't need to do anything beyond that. You have to file for a gift for the year. And then there's taxes that would be taken out of it. So you can transfer money. But that's huge taxes. I said, okay, so what if I paid? What if I buy the house? Then what taxes? And they're like, okay, well, then your mom would have to pay income tax on the house. So if the house costs 200 grand, she owes 27% and I'm buying, can I pay that? And then there's this diminishing return where it's like, yes, you can pay the taxes, but still more income. So it's a diminishing. It's like basically overpay to stop it from happening. So there are ways you can do it, but it's overly complicated. So I was talking to him, and I said, can I hire my mom for a job? And he goes, it has to be a real job. And I was like, yeah, she could do something. And he was like, if you pay anyone above markets, they have to have a position with a job description, and it has to be. And you have to be able to prove upon audit they do that job. Because, understand, there are lots of wealthy people that would love to hire a family member for a ridiculous salary so they could funnel money to another company, to a family, to a friend or whatever. And so that's why these laws exist. So let me just stress it one more time, Phil. 100% correct. We have a list of every employee here. Their job title is a legitimate title that is recognized by the government, and it has to fit the parameters of what people get paid. If we go above that, we risk getting audited and accused of trying to skip on taxes.

[Ian Crossland]

So this is why these CEOs will have salaries. I'm actually asking of, like, you know, meager means, $600,000 a year, whatever, $83,000 a month. And then his benefits are.

[Tim Pool]

I. Yes, I believe Bezos gets 83,000.

[Ian Crossland]

That's kind of rolled.

[Tim Pool]

Hunter Biden, his salary is $1 million a year.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay. That's like what Hunter was getting at barisma, I think 6.83,000amonth 83. Don't mix them up with Hunter Biden payments from Burisma.

[Tim Pool]

But that's because I think it comes down to a million a year.

[Ian Crossland]

So then the benefits is where. And then companies get creative with benefits and that's how they funnel wealth into their employment.

[Tim Pool]

So one common practice is, okay, so this job is you're a software Engineer, you make $120,000 a year, you can get paid more. You can say, this person is getting 150, the market rate is 120. That's reasonable. And you can arguably say, well, this is the best engineer in the world. We're paying him double. And that's still technically reasonable. What they end up doing is they'll say, okay, we're going to hire you at 120 market rate. We're going to give you another 120 in CDs to be paid out. Half at this point, half at this point, so it doesn't appear as income. And you'll pay taxes in the year after your contract expires. So they'll say a three year contract to complete the project. Once the project is over, you're going to have a CD that you can then cash out. So your taxes. So for that year you'll receive capital gains income or whatever, and it will be taxed at a different rate. There's a whole bunch of ways powerful and wealthy individuals navigate the tax system that people don't understand. But I just want to say this one more time. The government doesn't let you give money to anybody you want. The government doesn't let you hire anybody you want. And so what Phil's saying is, companies then say, okay, we'll pay for your health insurance, we'll pay. And now we've created this ridiculous system that's very weird. And it's like, break a bone, I hope you have a job. And it's like, no, no, no, hold on, you should be able to pay for it. So you probably need a job in the first place. But why is it that when you get hired, your employer has to give you health insurance? That's just the weirdest thing ever.

[Phil Labonte]

And it all started because of government intervention. And the government shouldn't have. The government has no right to do this. But a large part of the justification, just like Tim said, is because of taxes. It's because the government will say, well, you're doing this so that way you can evade taxes. So the income tax, which is, I mean, I find that to be terrible policy anyways, it is used to Control people in ways that most people don't even think about. You know, it's, it's the income tax is why the dollar has value, which we've talked about before. The fact that the, the income tax is required to be paid in US dollars, that's what allowed them to take the, the backing of gold and silver away. It used to be the gold and silver backed the dollar and that's what gave it value. But now because of the income tax, they've, they've allowed, they've created what they call modern monetary theory where taxation is what gives the dollar value because there's always going to be a demand for dollars.

[Tim Pool]

Here's another great comment from a healthy user. Tim's employees should be 1099 contracts, so he can pay them whatever they want. Also illegal. That's called permalancing. And it's a very serious crime. You're not allowed to do that. And so when we talk to people, you know, I hear these comments on, you know, I went to go work for. I got a contract offer from insert media company and they wanted to own everything I had. And I'm like, yeah, that's like a legal requirement. Like, blame the government for all of this. Stop blaming corporations for doing what the government is forcing them to do and start blaming the government. And then we can get Thomas Massie and Rand Paul, we can get Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, and they can start ripping to shreds the bureaucracy, firing people who shouldn't be there, and figure out why things are regulated in such ridiculous ways.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, you want, I mean, I can see why you would want to protect. Okay, so a corporate guy, he's like, I sell a product, I make $100 billion a year. I want to give 50 billion of it to my brother. And we'll just say that's his salary. I see why the government. Someone's got to be like, hold on there.

[Tim Pool]

Why? Why?

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, I don't know. I guess because it can be abused.

[Tim Pool]

A father breaks it, works his hands to the bone. Literally his fingertips are gone and it's just bones sticking out. And he's like, I am an old man and I have made $50 million so I can give to my children. And the government goes, no, we get half first. We're going to tax it at 37%. You're going to pay on average. Look, if a wealthy person is playing their cards right with a tax lawyer and an accountant, then depending on where they're making their money, if it's income, it's going to be 37%. Then you got property taxes and everything else. If they're playing loopholes with capital gains, they can make a lot of money doing other things. But let's just say someone does physical labor to the point where they made $50 million, they get taxed at 37% on everything above. I think it's like 270 something thousand. No, no, it might be like 360 right now if he's married. And then after. So, so the majority of it is taxed at basically more than a third. Then he dies, they take another half of that. Why, why can't someone just give their family member money, having earned it, if.

[Ian Crossland]

They check, or their friend, like why. Why does it have to stop at family?

[Tim Pool]

I mean, so they all, what they do is they either create limited liability corporations where they start a company with a family member and then say, I'm investing $1 billion into this company, of which my son is a 50% shareholder, than when they. So remember when Mark Zuckerberg announced he was, he was giving away all his money and everybody clapped and they were like, wow, he's giving away his money. So I could be wrong about this. You can fact check me.

[Kristen]

I always think those, those pledges are crocsive.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's. You give your money to a corporation, so you give away your money and then it's, it's basically protected from a trust. Right?

[Ian Crossland]

That's what trusts are. You put money in a trust, you know, later on it pays you back.

[Tim Pool]

It is kind of wild, like a.

[Ian Crossland]

Family trust or something.

[Tim Pool]

There, there are trusts out of Delaware where you basically don't pay any taxes. And so the argument is, I could be totally wrong about this because I don't do it. But I had talked to a tax lawyer and he's like, here's what you do. You get a specific kind of trust out of Delaware. It costs $5,000 a year to maintain with the state. All of your money goes into this trust. And the trust acts as the legal entity that does the financial dealings. A trust is not an entity that can be taxed. So if it makes capital gains, it doesn't get taxed itself. Then when you pull the money out, you get taxed on it. But it basically avoids double taxation and it allows you to make capital gains without. In the immediate, the trust is just being replenished and you're getting wealthier.

[Kristen]

Right. So there's all these, there's loopholes. I think that, I think that there's a real disconnect.

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[Kristen]

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[Ian Crossland]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Kristen]

A lot of the underlying government causes of a lot of these frustrations and problems that people have and people's awareness of it. And you were talking about Taylor Lorenz last night and her laughable comments. And I think that there's so many people actually like her out there who have some vague sense that there's something wrong with our health care system. And it's just easier and more symbolically satisfying to blame it on the CEOs of insurance companies than to actually get into the mud of really dissecting what's going on here with this. A lot of it having to do with government interference and regulation.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And I but I do think the government has a role and that's the government being an arm of the people. The people coming together socially and being like we're going to ban certain products from sale in Our country, like poison. Certain poisons that are very profitable and addictive to the human body. Maybe like, I don't know, Azo dyes in general. I don't know how addictive they are, but like petroleum based food coloring apparently causes hypertension or can lead to hypertension in children and humans, which can cause inflammation. So, like, maybe we could ban that stuff like RFKs.

[Kristen]

When you look at the US versus Europe, you know, there's a joke among people who have ever traveled to Europe that you feel so much better after you've been away from this place and the food that we eat for a while. And that's because actually, you know, if you go to Europe, a lot of the time you're getting food more or less sort of straight from the source, you know, straight from the source American gangster reference there. But you are more or less, you know, the fish was caught right over here or what have you. And over here, it's just there's, it seems like there's so, so well, processes we.

[Tim Pool]

That does exist if you're wealthy, right? So for the average poor American, you're, you're basically being forced to eat garbage. And I say forced lightly. You go to the grocery store, you make a choice. Okay. And I was telling this story a couple of weeks ago, Alison, I went to, went to the grocery store and I love getting little cottage cheeses. Very healthy. It's keto friendly, they call it. And but she, Allison, grabbed a pack of this, I don't know what the company is. And I looked at the ingredients and it's got a bunch of weird garbage in it. It's got emulsifiers and stuff. Daisy, which does a sour cream. And the cottage cheese, their ingredients, it's like skim milk, cream, salt. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna buy that.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So, so for a lot of people, they're eating craft macaroni and cheese. They're eating these like off the shelf products with tartrazine and red dye 3 and these other things because it's, it's, it's cheap. They're not getting proper nutrition, they're not getting proper diets. They're getting morbidly obese, they're getting chronic illness. RFK Jr. Is right.

[Ian Crossland]

And it sort of is an extrapolation of the lion diet that Michaela Peterson talks a lot about. Which ultimately from her, what she's explained it is, it's just all meat. Whatever a lion would eat. That's what she eats. Hyena beef and like, et cetera and Salt. But then what's really happening is it's an elimination diet. All the stuff you don't eat, all the stuff you've taken out of your diet, toxic stuff. Yeah. I think that's what the government should be doing, is providing a sort of elimination diet now for our populace.

[Tim Pool]

But this is a big trend among millennials. Like, soda consumption is massively down. And that's why there's these commercials popping up where it's the Coalition of Soda Drinks of America. Did you know that we have low sugar options? And then there's like, a guy in a white lab coat, and they, like, show all these things. And I'm like, I have here a spindrift. They do not sponsor the show, but I will shout them out. Why? Ingredients. Carbonated water, grapefruit juice, orange juice, lemon juice, hibiscus.

[Ian Crossland]

I love it so much.

[Tim Pool]

Awesome.

[Ian Crossland]

The pineapple. I'm gonna. This is. I'm, like shooting myself in the foot with this. The pineapple spindrift is so good. And I tell people that on stream, and then it sells out, and it's so frustrating because I get it on Amazon and then it's like six bucks for 12 of them or for eight of them, and then they're sold out.

[Tim Pool]

This is what it should be, but.

[Ian Crossland]

I want to spread the wealth.

[Tim Pool]

It's got. It's got four carbs. Three of it is sugars, and there's no sugar added. It's just sparkling water with a little fruit juice. I don't want to drink a bottle of syrup. Okay. But there are a lot of people go to the store, they pick up a Coca Cola, Pepsi, whatever it is, get their high fructose corn syrup. Maybe they can't afford the spindrifts. I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

They don't know they exist. I think a lot of people. It's still kind of, we're going to.

[Tim Pool]

Make America healthy again.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, we are.

[Tim Pool]

So help us. We will do it.

[Ian Crossland]

You got to be careful with that. That stuff will rip your teeth up, though. I was drinking a lot of spindrift that put holes in my enamel. I don't. I don't know if I can blame Solely. Yeah, I think it's the carbonation.

[Tim Pool]

No, it's the acid. But, yeah, soda will do worse.

[Ian Crossland]

Fruit juice has a lot of acid.

[Tim Pool]

Lemon.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, for sure. So does a million times. I mean, I don't know how many times worse. But all that sugar.

[Tim Pool]

Got a raspberry lime over there. Spindrift is. It's. It's the best. Okay.

[Ian Crossland]

It's so good. And you can add juice to it, too. Like a really good organic.

[Tim Pool]

So I go to the, I go to peach juice.

[Ian Crossland]

I pour a little bit into my Spindrift.

[Tim Pool]

I go to a restaurant, I say, give me club soda with some lemon. That's what I drink. So when I saw Spindrift, which is basically a club soda lemon, I'm like, then we got all the flavors. Now that I'm a big fan. Okay. Not a sponsor or anything like that, but it's just a great product. Let's jump to this story from the post Millennial Trump Team Preps executive order to end birthright citizenship on day one. Based. What say you, panel?

[Phil Labonte]

I think that if, say, based. Based. I have, I have a feeling that it's going to go to the Supreme Court. I have a feeling there's going to be challenges and then it's going to go to the Supreme Court, which is a good thing because then, then the Supreme Court can actually rule on whether or not there should be anchor babies or not. Because conceptually, I think most Americans, and I can't say everyone, but I think most Americans are against the idea of if you can get pregnant and then get to America, when you're nine months pregnant, you can, you'll. No one's going to send you away because you're nine months pregnant and, oh, look, the poor pregnant lady have a baby and then you can just stay because you got here. That's a bad precedent.

[Tim Pool]

Let me pull up the 14th amendment so I can break this down for everybody and the leftists can whinge. Section 1 of the 14th Amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside. What does that sentence mean? Anybody want to crack at it? What was the intent of that sentence?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, it was initially, it was to make sure that black slaves were considered.

[Tim Pool]

They were literally saying, of the adult population in this country that was born here and subject to our jurisdiction, we hereby say you are citizens. That was the point of the 14th Amendment. It was not to say, at some point when a person from Germany shows up and has a baby, that baby under our jurisdiction will be a citizen. It seems like this was grossly misinterpreted. It was quite. The whole thing is quite little about the Civil War. Section 3. No person shall be a senator representative of Congress having waged insurrection, blah, blah, blah. The validity of public debt by the US Authorized incurred During payment of pensions and bounties and services, suppressing insurrection. It's literally the civil war. They're literally saying, hey, there's a 20 year old black man who was born here and we have jurisdiction over him. You're a citizen. That was it. It was the end of slavery. And it's turned into somehow that a Guatemalan family can illegally enter the country by crossing a border and then within a few months give birth and that baby is now a permanent citizen. Think about how stupid that sounds. A woman from China flies at 8 months pregnant, 7 months and stays on a 3 month visa, gives birth. The United States flies home. That kid is raised for 30 years in China, but has US citizenship the whole time. I don't think the not was intended. Now I know the founding fathers didn't intend to flying around on anything because they certainly didn't comprehend how that would happen. Maybe hot air balloons. They did have those.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, they did. Ben Franklin got it.

[Tim Pool]

And hot air balloons. They used them for warfare. But the idea that someone from a foreign country would come here, have a kid and leave. And I'm sorry, I got to clarify, not the founding fathers, but the government at the time of the civil war, they didn't intend for the British to come over, have kids and be like they're citizens now and they can be compared to Britain.

[Phil Labonte]

Right?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I think that they were also trying to grow the population for the first half of the country's existence for the first two thirds up until the.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but middle 1900s. Seven kids. Dude.

[Ian Crossland]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Who did women be hanging out babies?

[Ian Crossland]

Oh yeah, they did.

[Tim Pool]

Look at the movie the Patriot with Mel Gibson pumping them out time.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What did he have?

[Ian Crossland]

Baby, baby, baby. Work the farm, kid.

[Tim Pool]

Get to work, make babies.

[Ian Crossland]

One day you'll have a farm of your own. But so I think that this.

[Phil Labonte]

People like sex back then too. So they still do. And that was, and that was, that was, you know, kids were the. Before birth control, kids were the result of sex.

[Ian Crossland]

And I hear the sabb, the Jewish Sabbath, is a lot about preg. Impregnating your wife every Saturday. It's like put down the technology and have sex with your wife all day until she's pregnant and then take nine months off and then as soon as she's had the kid, do it again.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm in no position to make this.

[Ian Crossland]

I was told that by a hardcore Jewish person. So I don't know, maybe they were more lax about having new citizens before when they wrote this thing. But the idea that a British person could come over here, sneak into the country. Well, they, they were. Ideally, people weren't sneaking into the country, but have a bunch of kid. Have a kid and then take them back to Britain, educate them with the British ideology and then they're. But they're an American citizen is crazy. And I don't know why there's not a loophole in there for like you gotta live here for 10 years or something.

[Kristen]

They just didn't anticipate. I just don't think they anticipated the, this entire matrix of like travel, like he was saying, air travel. And also just the huge influx of immigration that we ended up having.

[Ian Crossland]

And they said you can amend this constitution. We're writing it for today and you're supposed to change it over time when it makes sense for your community and your society. You have to change this thing. It's not a static document.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a static document unless you. Because the. Because it is a string. It is a stringent process to change it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes, it's a static document that can be changed in its state. Its order of stasis can be.

[Tim Pool]

Donald Trump will issue an executive order on day one. The ACLU will have a seizure and vomit on themselves and file a lawsuit and then it will quickly go to the Supreme Court. As it is, is already a federal issue. And the Supreme Court will. I think they'll agree with Trump.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I hope so, because I do think that the idea of, you know, anchor babies, someone just coming here and being like, oh, now me and my. Because I mean, do you get the whole like someone is born here or you have a kid here and then mom can stay to take care of the kid and then because of that they can start chain migration.

[Tim Pool]

It's a ridiculous look at what the left is saying. Trump's. They're saying Trump's going to deport US Citizens yet children because their parents are leaving.

[Phil Labonte]

Leftists.

[Tim Pool]

I say this Donald Trump, here's a proposal. The proposal is we're not going to deport any US Citizens. That three year old child can stay here as a ward of the state or can go with their parents back home.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. And then when they're 18, they can come back to the US because they're.

[Tim Pool]

The left wants family separation. What can I say?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't have a problem with that.

[Kristen]

Do you guys think that Trump is going to come through really hardcore with the immigration stuff?

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, if he's talking about doing it on day one, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's a bold statement to say on day one, he's going to do this stuff. Because day one is two months.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Not even. We're looking at a month and 10 days.

[Phil Labonte]

I can't wait to see what. I just want to see what happens. Like, I mean, I do have, you know, a preference, a policy preference that I want to see, but I really want to see, like, what happens when Donald Trump is actually the president again and is actually starting to influence policy, making executive orders and pressuring Congress to do things and pass legislation that he can sign. You know, he was to do this.

[Ian Crossland]

Executive order thing, what would that look like?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, he said it would. I don't know. I don't think that it's. It's been fleshed out. But there are people. Even if he didn't tell people on his staff that this was his intent before he said this on the show, you know, as soon as they heard him say that, they're like, all right, well, we got to start writing, because that's exactly what happened when he made an offhanded remark about silent, about silencers when there was a shooting used with a silencer. And he was like, yeah. Someone said, don't you think these should be illegal? And he's like, well, we'll look into it. And people, even though he didn't actually specifically tell anyone he said it in an interview, people heard that. People on his staff heard that. Like, all right, we got to start coming up with some kind of framework for how that'll work, and et cetera, et cetera.

[Ian Crossland]

So this is like, he's saying he's going to make an executive order that will override the Constitution.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, he's saying he's an issue. An executive order that says the constitution of the 14th amendment must be enforced as it's written. That is to say, if you are born in this country and subject to its jurisdiction, you're a citizen. Guess what? If two people who are not of the United States come here and have a child, that child is not subject to its jurisdiction. It's subject to this. The jurisdiction of the citizenship of the families. Let's put it this way.

[Kristen]

If.

[Tim Pool]

If two people came here from China and gave birth to a child and then the US Tried taking that child, saying it's ours, what do you think China's going to do?

[Kristen]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

They're going to be like, no, you're not right.

[Phil Labonte]

But I think it's a. It honestly is fairly simple. Like Tim said, if they're subject to its jurisdiction, the words in these amendments matter. Like, the idea that you can just, just interpret around the intent and purpose of an, of a, of an amendment, that's, that's, you know, that's constructing law from the bench. And that's something that the judiciary is not supposed to do. The judiciary is not supposed to write law. At the, at the most, they're supposed to interpret law, but they're definitely not supposed to create law.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm really starting, I'm starting to see this actually the legitimacy of what you guys are talking about, that if people that are, I'm just going to reiterate what's been said and people in the chat like he's so just doing that. Anyway, people come over here illegally, they're here illegally, they have a kid on the soil while they're illegally here, the kid isn't necessarily subject to the jurisdiction of the state.

[Phil Labonte]

Correct.

[Ian Crossland]

Because they were, they were here born of illegal immigrant, illegal people that are here illegally.

[Tim Pool]

Right. So, but, but why would, why would a child be subject to our jurisdiction simply for being born here? Right. Let's say a family from Mexico visits the United States as tourists and they bring their seven year old kid. None of them are subject to our jurisdiction. We have certain jurisdiction where we can say we're deporting you, but they're subject to the jurisdiction of Mexico as Mexican nationals and we have a treaty by which we respect them and we allow them here on certain terms. So the argument they're making is that, oh, but jurisdiction, like if you're in our jurisdiction, we can arrest you and it's like, yes, but we can't imprison you because it creates an international crisis where that country then makes demands over their citizens who they have jurisdiction over.

[Phil Labonte]

A lot of times if someone from another country breaks the law, we'll arrest them and then just ship them out here.

[Tim Pool]

It's not, it's not our jurisdiction, it's you are here in our country, committed a crime and we're sending you home.

[Ian Crossland]

What does it mean to be subject to the jurisdiction of the.

[Tim Pool]

I'm looking up principal argument is that when this was written, it was referring to slaves of the United States who were born here and have no other country to call home. They were under the jurisdiction of the US Government where slave patrols could capture them if they tried to escape. After the Civil War, they said if you were born here and subject to our jurisdiction, you're a citizen.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

This says United States vs Wong Kim ARC 169 US 649. In 1898, the Supreme Court wrote that subject to the jurisdiction would appear to have been to exclude by, by the fewest and fittest words, besides children of members of the Indian tribes.

[Phil Labonte]

Children. Can you articulate that one more time?

[Ian Crossland]

So it's supposed to. Jurisdiction. Subject to the jurisdiction thereof kind of have. Appears, appears to have excluded members of Indian children of members of Indian tribes.

[Tim Pool]

So here's, here's a super chat in the country.

[Ian Crossland]

But they're not subject to the jurisdiction.

[Tim Pool]

Amos Moses says, before the Indian Citizen Citizenship act of 1924, Indians born in the US were not citizens because they were not subject to the U.S. jurisdiction.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there was treaties.

[Tim Pool]

They have their own land still to this day on native land. There are certain federal regulations based on treaties. But this is what actually created casinos. They were arguing that they were not to be regulated by the state. And the states were like, yeah, right. And they were like, ah, not. Try me, dude.

[Phil Labonte]

Technically that's why you, like, you hear about like the Cherokee Nation. They're considered a nation of their own. They're considered separate from the United States of America. And because of that, they're not subject to the jurisdiction. There are.

[Tim Pool]

It just says. It's kind of wild, right, to imagine being like 1890 and you literally just walk into town and go, I'm a citizen. How would they know? What are they going to do? I mean, there's birth record and stuff. Would you be like, oh, yeah, but I'm from California.

[Phil Labonte]

It was, I mean, it was assumed everybody was a citizen if you were in America, because it was hard to get here. You know, it was, you know, the late 1800s. The ships took a long time to get across the ocean. So now it wasn't impossible, but it was much harder than it is today where, you know, if you have a thousand dollars or a couple thousand dollars, you can get across the ocean and get a, like an escort all the way through South America up to the.

[Kristen]

I mean, there was still resentment, you know, even 100 years ago or so, of course, immigrants. But, but it was definitely, I mean, the accessibility now and the ease with which people can, can break these, these.

[Ian Crossland]

Rules and they can get rid of their accent by watching American English TV from the age of one.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude. I knew a guy who lived in Turkey who learned English by watching Family Guy.

[Ian Crossland]

And then, because before they probably always would have an accent. They came over on a boat, you'd know because they had a crazy Irish.

[Tim Pool]

Accent or they talked like that.

[Kristen]

So now that Trump. But we have, you know, Trump has the White House and the Republicans have both Houses and the Supreme Court is pretty stacked. So there should be no issue then, right, with, with him implementing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Now Trump can arrest every single Democratic voter in the country and send them to Europe. Let's jump to the story for the Nation. President Biden should issue a blanket pardon of undocumented immigrants. I'm not going to read a stupid argument. Basically, the Nation is arguing that, that Biden should basically say, all illegal immigrants are hereby pardoned for the crime of entering the country. And Trump can't deport you.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, you could still. I, I don't know the details of what's in this stupid piece by the Nation, which is basically a communist rag, but the idea that just because you're pardoned, that, like, just because you're pardoned doesn't mean that you become a citizen. So maybe the, the pardon will say, okay, you're, you're, you're not subject to punishment, but that doesn't mean we can't still wrap you up and send you back home, at least. I don't understand why, yes. Why it would mean that they're autumn, they're automatically naturalized.

[Ian Crossland]

You could pardon them for the crime of entering the country, but that doesn't mean that them being here isn't still a crime.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, not, not only that, but even if they're, even if they say, okay, this isn't a crime, you being here, but you can say you aren't a citizen, so you need to go back to where you're from. We're not going to put you, we're not going to put you into the, you know, you're not going to have to be punished for it. You're not gonna have to go to jail or anything or pay any fines, but we can still remove you and send you home.

[Kristen]

I'm just amazed at how tone deaf, how persistently tone deaf these kinds of writers, these kinds of articles are to not be able to read the room better than the place that we're at as a nation now is I think that immigration, undocumented, illegal immigration, it has reached a level that, that almost everyone agrees it's a problem. I don't think, I mean, this is just, this kind of, this attitude is so outdated. And so it's just interesting after this election to see this still being promoted.

[Phil Labonte]

It was like 70% of Americans were comfortable with not just closing the border or building the wall or whatever. It was. 70% of Americans were okay with rounding up illegals and sending them home.

[Kristen]

And many more Latinos, for example, than the Left would then the left evidently expected. And I, and you know, I'm from Texas and I interact all the time with people with, from Latino heritage and they, and so many of them are fed up with undocumented illegal immigration themselves. So many of them voted Trump and they say really it's insulting for people to assume that just because I'm from this particular heritage that, that I don't believe in doing things in a proper law abiding way or that. And here's the thing too. A lot of people, once they make it to America, they want to shut the door behind them because they understand that if you let too many people in, then you're going to, then it's not going to be the places they were wanting to immigrate to in the first place.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly. And another thing that I just want to point out is like the idea that all Latinos are the same, that is only acceptable to white people. It's not. Racist people.

[Ian Crossland]

Racist people. Well, I mean I'm not even happen to be white.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not sure if it's intended to be racist, but it's definitely ignorant. You know, if you, if you tell them, if you tell a Puerto Rican and a Mexican, you guys are basically the same. Right. They're going to kill you. They're going to, they're going to, they're going to berate you, they're going to yell at you, they're going to call you all kinds of names, they're going to make fun of you. Like that is absolutely not true.

[Kristen]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

So the way that the left just, you know, throws everybody into a pot so that way they can use them as a tool against the right and that's, that's the only reason they do it.

[Kristen]

Well, it's the same thing with voter ID and the idea that black people can't obtain identification. It's so ra. Or can't use the Internet, it's so racist.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. The term POC was such a racist person of color. Like your skin is a little different color. Let's put you in a box with a bunch of other people with similar chain skins don't match mine.

[Kristen]

How to get id. You're too, you're too stupid or you're too non savvy about basic Internet technology and government procedures to get an id.

[Ian Crossland]

It's just so insulting how, how racist people can become in the attempt to be non racist is like it just.

[Kristen]

In the attempt to project non racism.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, exactly. We're going to hold up all these other people's skin Colors, abilities to do. It's just such a ra.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know, man.

[Ian Crossland]

Morgan Freeman had it right. Look, I'm a man, you're a man. That's how we defeat racism.

[Phil Labonte]

That's a liberal principle. That's the whole, the whole idea is to look at people as if they're people. But the left doesn't want to do that because as I've said multiple times on this show, happy people don't revolt. So they use race as a way to make people think that they have something to be angry at other people about. They. They do what they can to incite racial grievance. And that's part of why race has been such a hot topic the past 10 to 15 years. It's because it's intentional, because the left uses that to get power. They use the, they use race as a way to get power.

[Tim Pool]

And as a. And as many people have been pointing out over the past couple of weeks, like Arin McIntyre is making this point, the Civil Rights act has basically was the first domino to fall over in what created racial grievance and identitarian grievance. And I don't think they're completely wrong. I don't know that I completely agree 100%, because I do believe that just because we say, hey man, let's be reasonable, don't, don't tell someone they can't shop at your store because they're black or they're Mexican or whatever, we can set limits, but the end result basically turns into, everybody will file lawsuits citing that precedent and simply saying, because of my insert immutable characteristic, I am protected and you can't do these things to me. So the Civil Rights act has basically created the circumstance where everybody now wants to justify why they are an aggrieved class A victim. So you end up with now gender identity and the Supreme Court ruling that, yep, if you're trans, you're protected under the Civil Rights Act. And it's like, okay, well, now you've. There's no line anymore because gender identity is not defined anywhere. So we know what it means to be white or not white for the most part, if you. Because the loss is race. So if a guy comes in and he's got, he might be white, he might be black, I don't know, maybe a parent or grandparent in there. And the guy says, you look like a, like a person of a different race, so get out. Okay, we can't do that. But now what's happening with the gender identity stuff is they're basically saying like men can have beards and women can have beards and men might wear dresses and women might wear suits. Therefore anyone can be anything at any time. And they're gender fluid now. That means basically everything is a protected class, no matter what. I think that may get overturned at the Supreme Court depending what happens with that latest ruling on gender ideology. But we'll see. But the argument being made by a lot of the post liberals, these are people who were liberal and now they're like, hey, wait a minute. The rules and the world that we put in place based on these ideas have resulted in rampant wokeness and grievances. What do you do to solve for it? I have no idea.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, you look at reality. I sounded like Dave Rubin there. You look his accent. You look at it just plaintively, without presumption. Like having a large influx of foreigners illegally into your country can damage the stability of your country. I don't care about what race you are. I don't care about what color your skin was before you got here. I don't care about any of that. I more value the stability of our nation and our community. So if you look at it from the starting point of like how do we stabilize the system then I think pretty much like you were saying, 70% of the people are like, yeah, yeah. You can't just like barge through the border unaffiliated. Like you can't. It's too destabilizing for any country.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, look, the idea of assimilation was something that was obvious and basically universal for America.

[Kristen]

It's celebrated.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at the early part of the 20th century. The people that came to America, the young people, weren't allowed to speak the home countries language at home because they wanted to make sure the kids learned English and spoke English and they all tried to become American. And nowadays it is more valuable to try to not become an American and be aggrieved. It used to be I want to become American so I can work hard and I can get ahead because I believe in America. And now it's I want to get to America so I can get on some kind of assistance because they'll give it to me because I'm XYZ Identity and that is a terrible policy. It's going to bank and it's going to bankrupt the country.

[Ian Crossland]

I blame the blasted World Economic Forum for trying to disempower the United States greatness and take control at these global liberal economic order banks. I think seeding poison in the minds of the American youth and the global youth. I've had enough of it. We're immune now. And I'll keep going if you want me to.

[Kristen]

I'm like, almost a non sequitur there.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm just. I think that's funny.

[Ian Crossland]

That's. Well, I think this whole idea of, like, I don't want to assimilate, I don't care to assimilate, has been seeded in. Like, I remember when. When you'd go sign up for a website and always, what country you're from, United States would be at the top. It was alphabetical, except United States was at the top.

[Kristen]

Notice that's.

[Tim Pool]

Now it's at the bottom.

[Ian Crossland]

Because sometimes. Sometimes it is. But I've also seen it coming back and getting put at the top.

[Tim Pool]

Am I scrolling all the way down? Of every single country in the world.

[Ian Crossland]

For a while I was like, why is it not alphabetical? Why do I get. And then it was gone. And I was like, wow, we really are the least worst country out there. And now it's back. And I'm like, good. I'm down for some American supremacy in a good way. The ideology.

[Tim Pool]

All cultures are good.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Not militaristically. I mean, maybe we need some protective essence on the planet. But, like, I'm talking about the cultural benevolence of, like, free speech and things like that.

[Tim Pool]

I think, you know, Ian had this great rant where he said the US Military should go and bring constitutional republicanism to all countries of the planet, whether they want it or not.

[Ian Crossland]

Wait, the military?

[Tim Pool]

You said that?

[Ian Crossland]

I'm not sure if I said military, did I? No, I wouldn't have said that.

[Tim Pool]

You. You. You said that. You think it was. You. You think. You thought it was good that the military was trying to bring democracy?

[Ian Crossland]

Hold on a second. You make me sound like George Bush Jr. Here, bro.

[Tim Pool]

You literally said this, and we were all shocked.

[Ian Crossland]

We gotta pull up the tape, Serge.

[Tim Pool]

And I can't remember. Like, Elad was like, my man.

[Ian Crossland]

He would have said that if I did.

[Tim Pool]

It was like Afghanistan. And you said we were bringing constitutional order that would guarantee free speech and certain rights, rights to people around the world.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think we can do it military. I don't think that imposing authority through. Through force is the way anymore. Because the Internet, you see it. You see through it. But the cultural, like, awesomeness of the music and the television shows, the little kids that want to learn English from the age of one, that want to become movie star, they want to go to Hollywood. Like, that stuff, I love.

[Tim Pool]

So let's jump to the story. This is breaking. Nancy Mace was physically assaulted. This is the report that we're getting right now. We don't have a lot of details. Nick Sorter says Nancy Mace was physically assaulted by a pro trans man at the Capitol tonight. Does that mean it's a. It's like a guy who supports transgender issues.

[Phil Labonte]

I bet anything that it was a trans. Well approach. It was.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let me keep reading. Says the left is insanely violent. He says this has gone too far. Nancy Mace sending a, Sending these degenerates a message. Your trans violence and threats in my life will only make me double down. She has a tweet where she says, I was physically accosted tonight on Capitol grounds over my fight to protect women. Capitol police have arrested him. All of the violence and threats proving our point, women deserve to be safe. Your threats will not stop my fight for women. So she said him. And knowing her position on the issue, this means it was a biological man who identified as a man but was in support of trans issues.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, wow. A man that actually assaulted.

[Tim Pool]

That was a leftist guy.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, which isn't a surprise. Leftists are, you know, they're.

[Tim Pool]

Here's my question for everybody. Here is right now, Rudyard is at two of a thousand. Rudyard, what a fault. History says by April, 1,000 people will have died over political. With a political motivation domestically.

[Phil Labonte]

I hope he's wrong.

[Tim Pool]

And I certainly hope he's wrong, too, considering it's been a month since the election where he did predict Trump would win and then we would see a thousand dead. Two people have died thus far on political, politically motivated grounds. It's the CEO, of course. And then someone tried to kill Marjorie Taylor Greene and in the circumstance, ended up killing an innocent woman. Now, I know a lot of people are going to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened? I know when I tell you the real story, you're going to say, ah, okay, she was swatted and the bomb squad rushing to her home to save her life, crashed, killing an innocent woman who was driving and got hit. So that's. That's collateral damage of leftist terrorism. But I do believe it is fair to say that someone made an attempt on the life of Marjorie Taylor Greene. And as the police rush to save her, the killing of this innocent woman is her getting caught in the crossfire. That's two of a thousand. Do you think we will see 1,000 by April?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think we will. I'm hoping that Rudyard is wrong. I don't. I also don't think that, I don't think I would bet a lot of money on it, but I would bet a little money that Rudyard is wrong. That we, that we don't see a.

[Tim Pool]

Thousand, I think wouldn't seem, I think that's crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw, you know, a handful more. But, you know, the two attempts on Donald Trump's life. The CEO guy, you know, and that's, you know, this attack on Nancy Mace, which.

[Tim Pool]

Nancy Mace. So she has another tweet. She, she got hurt.

[Phil Labonte]

Did she actually get injured?

[Tim Pool]

She's got, she has a knee brace and she has to ice her arm. She says not like serious, but that's, that's an injury. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's pretty wild. That, that, that's crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, and you know, we were just, I was just arguing with the leftists about, about right wing versus left wing terrorism and violence and stuff. The left there isn't there, there is always an argument that people make that say that the right is more violent than the left. The right. And there's always statistics and stuff that they, that they use. And I find the arguments not compelling. The people that correlate the data, I feel like they're all, they're biased. The ramblings of a racist who kills people because they're racist. That's not really political. That's racial. That's racial. Hate isn't like, I don't feel like it's political the same way that, that, you know, the person that attacked Nancy Mace is clearly political. And I mean, I know that there are people that are going to say, oh, Phil, the data says, the data says, the data says. But there are extremely obvious and clear examples of leftist violence that are obviously leftist. All of the riots during the Summer of Love, when the guy attacked the, the congressional baseball game and shot Steve Scalise. The attacks on Rand Paul. Rand Paul's been attacked himself three or four different times. When. One time when he was just walking down the street in, not the one at his house, but he was walking down the street in D.C. the shooters that were just trying to kill Trump, they both, neither of them, I don't care what anyone says, they weren't Trump supporters. That's the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard.

[Tim Pool]

I do got to read a super chat here real quick. Sorry. Yeah, so Joseph says it's seven, not two. A woman killed her father. A woman killed herself and her kids. A woman killed her boyfriend because of.

[Kristen]

The Trouble actually killed her father? Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

God, that's crazy. The guy that killed his family.

[Tim Pool]

Is that. What was that story?

[Phil Labonte]

So a guy killed his two kids and his wife over the election. That allegedly. That was the, the.

[Tim Pool]

So actually. So it was more than seven.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Hold on.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. I mean that's still. Rudyard thinks in the next 5000 is high though. That's a thousand people. He was. And a lot of people responded to me saying, dude, January 3rd, like the Congress comes in January 6th, Trump wins. Then the inauguration. January 21st, Trump signs no birthright citizenship. Begin the deportations. People are going to lose their minds.

[Phil Labonte]

46 year old Minnesota man, Anthony nephew killed his ex wife, ex partner and two sons. But why before taking his own life?

[Tim Pool]

What was the.

[Phil Labonte]

Hold on one second. Duluth. Let's see. No, it says, it says the motive behind the killings is unclear. And this is just. That's the AI Braves. AI. Let's see. Let me see what they.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that woman in Seattle, woman who.

[Phil Labonte]

Killed her Minnesota dad who ranted against Trump election gunned down wife, ex girlfriend and two kids over Trump election man who ranted against Trump election gunned down. Well, I'm looking, I'm still looking to see if I can find actual.

[Tim Pool]

This is the challenge, right? Because like are we going to really play this game where it's like a guy who ranted at one point and then later for different reasons did a thing? No, no, no. The idea that Rudyard had, that he was expressing was that the political tensions in this country would get so great that we would see people dying because of it. So a woman killing her father. Yes. She said, quote, something about the election she muttered and it was on election day. I think she wanted the lights turned on or something. I can't remember what it was. And then she snapped and just killed her dad.

[Phil Labonte]

Insane.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So that one's like, I don't know, man. I hope it's not the case. I hope Trump gets in. He won. It's a clean sweep. There's a popular mandate. I hope that he just gets the job done. And they cry on the Internet. That's all.

[Kristen]

I do feel like the anti Trump hysteria has because it really did peak, I think in the last, the last election, 2016, when Trump was elected. I feel like basically what's happened now up to this point is that people even who didn't like Trump, they did realize that, okay, this guy, it turns out, is not Mussolini. He's not actually Hitler. He's not literally Hitler. And so I don't know I just think. Sorry, Matt. I mean, allergy attack tonight. I just think that. I think that people have have wisened up to this. By and large, the media have not. You know, you're still going to have the left wing people freaking out on the media, but I think that most Americans, even on the left, have, have really wised up to the fact that Trump is not some terrifying figure.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, they got a taste of what it was like to have Joe Biden as president, too, which was like, he's still. Is he our president? It's so weird that, that old. I mean, I guess for the first year, I get it, but even that was like, people saw, like, what they did with Kamala Harris. They're like, here's your candidate this year, ladies and gentlemen. Like, what? Where's the primary? A lot of people were just like, you know what? Donald Trump was elected. Donald Trump served as president. He didn't go crazy. He did. He said some stuff I didn't like, but it wasn't speaking for other people.

[Kristen]

His presidency was not the house of horrors that the left told us to expect. And so I think no matter what he does, within reason, in the next four years, I think people are, are just not going to freak out on that level. We're not going to see, like, the pink pussy hats and stuff like that.

[Ian Crossland]

I was watching some old Apprentice videos. Those are pretty funny. Reminding myself who he is deep down in his heart. He's a great diplomat. That's the thing about him. His North Korean diplomacy, cooling tensions with North Korea, cooling tensions with Russia, cooling tensions with. I mean, the guy is just a super charismatic, diploma master diplomat, and that is a great upgrade from slowly. Joe Biden, he's just like falling over at the wheel, exhausted. I mean, good lord. That. And there hadn't. There wasn't another better option.

[Kristen]

Well, and, and you mentioned, you know, the Apprentice and something that my husband is always saying is that people spent years before Trump got into politics. They spent years being introduced to him through the television. And so there's a basic comfort level that a lot of Americans have that the media might not have. But a lot of Americans have known Trump for a long time and they're cool with him.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, anybody listening that even if you don't have issues, if you do or don't have issues, Trump. Go back and watch old clips of the Apprentice and Trump in the boardroom, because the dude is just. He's cool, man. He's not. Not evil. He's actually not evil. It turns out he's actually pretty good. He might actually be neutral because he's like, look, sometimes the good people fail in business, and that's just the harsh reality.

[Tim Pool]

Donald Trump, you're saying? Yeah, he's clearly lawful good good.

[Ian Crossland]

You think he's a good. I think he's lawful neutral. I think he's lawful neutral. He. He strikes me as very articulate and cares a lot about the law and legal authority, but he's. He's like.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's like a paladin.

[Phil Labonte]

I think he's.

[Ian Crossland]

Paladins are chaotic good.

[Tim Pool]

Instrument of divine retribution.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know about that because he'll.

[Phil Labonte]

He's chaotic good man.

[Tim Pool]

Nope.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, you can't tell what he's.

[Ian Crossland]

You think he's chaotic.

[Tim Pool]

He's chaotic good.

[Phil Labonte]

You can't tell what he's gonna do. He. And he likes it that way. He uses that chaos to his advantage. That's why. Yikes.

[Ian Crossland]

That's like Robin Hood. Robinhood was chaotic good.

[Phil Labonte]

I think Robin. I'm not sure about neutral good as well.

[Tim Pool]

Guys, I'm a stop right there. Donald Trump is kind of good. Here's the story from the intelligence. Here's. Here's the story from the intelligencer. Jill Biden becomes involuntary model in Trump cologne ad.

[Phil Labonte]

Involuntary.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this image. It's Jill Biden looking at Trump and smiling. And it says, a fragrance your enemies can't resist. I love that. And Trump. Trump is selling the Fight Fight Fight perfume and cologne collection.

[Ian Crossland]

She loves them. She really loves them.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, people that spend time around Donald Trump can't help but be like, ah, that guy's all right.

[Tim Pool]

So you said lawful neutral. Is that you said?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, well, I think he's lawful neutral.

[Tim Pool]

He's certainly not neutral when he does things like this.

[Ian Crossland]

He's super charismatic.

[Phil Labonte]

It's chaotic good.

[Tim Pool]

He's chaotic good.

[Ian Crossland]

He loves to be loved.

[Tim Pool]

And this is.

[Ian Crossland]

Joe didn't show up. She needed somebody there to talk to. Whoa, hey.

[Tim Pool]

The other guy's wife, DJ T is.

[Ian Crossland]

Down to party man.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, I mean, he's definitely. I think that the closest thing for Donald Trump is chaotic good. You can never tell what he's going to do. He is. He genuinely wants good things in the. In the end, he wants good things for America. He's not. He doesn't want war. He doesn't want to hurt people unless, you know, unless necessary. Which is like, you know, Soleimani, he killed. But that was because, you know, he had political justification for that. But whether you agree with it or not, the point is that he's not out there thinking, oh, I'm just going to go and start wars to start wars. He's not a Dick Cheney. He's not looking to make. To start war so he can profit off wars. He makes way more money by having positive business dealings than he ever would by having. By being at war.

[Tim Pool]

Look at. Look at this. I was thinking about buying some and giving them out for Christmas. I think it's a good idea.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm Cologne.

[Phil Labonte]

I think it's a great idea.

[Ian Crossland]

We got to at least get one.

[Tim Pool]

There's perfume, too.

[Ian Crossland]

Sample women's perfume.

[Tim Pool]

Look at the perfume. So he didn't put himself standing tall on it. On the women's bottle, it just says, fight, fight, fight. But I'm like, dude, this is the best Christmas gift ever for your liberal family members.

[Ian Crossland]

We should have one on the table so everybody can get away.

[Tim Pool]

It's $200, though.

[Ian Crossland]

Man knows how to sell it. Look at that.

[Phil Labonte]

A golden.

[Tim Pool]

You can smell like Donald Trump.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, he looks like Superman. And that like Clark Kent.

[Tim Pool]

Limited edition numbered collectible cologne celebrates President Trump's historic victory. I. I gotta get some. It arrived. Oh, it ships in March. Oh, man.

[Ian Crossland]

Back order.

[Tim Pool]

I was. I wanted to get this for Christmas.

[Phil Labonte]

They're probably, like, trying to keep up with demand because as soon as he started advertising, you might be able to.

[Ian Crossland]

Pull some strings and get a. Get an early.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, if they're probably not made yet.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it's true. I got. Man, I got so much gratitude for this guy now as time goes on and the amount of sacrifice, personal sacrifice he's put himself through. And at one point I was like, it's all ego, but he really cares, man.

[Tim Pool]

And you remember when he got two scoops of ice cream, but everybody else got one? One. Think about the kind of sacrifice someone like him have to make. Normally, he'd go for four, but he chose to do only two scoops.

[Ian Crossland]

The big ask.

[Tim Pool]

That was a. That was a funny thing where CNN made a segment where they were like, trump gets two scoops, everyone else gets one.

[Phil Labonte]

I tell you what, if I was the president, I would get two as well. And I bet you if someone said, hey, can I have another scoop? Donald Trump would say yes. I bet he wouldn't say no. I.

[Tim Pool]

He just be like, why are you asking me? I don't know. The ice cream's over there. And they did that thing where they're like, his salt and pepper shakers were bigger than everyone else's. And I'm like, dude, I don't think Trump manages the salt and pepper shaker. These people are insane.

[Kristen]

Yeah, that's true.

[Tim Pool]

Like, anybody who's ever gotten catering. You're not going to be like. And make sure at my seat in the table, I have the big. They're going to be like, what?

[Ian Crossland]

I don't have those. Like, make sure I have the biggest and the best salt and pepper shake.

[Tim Pool]

Someone else, someone else may have done that. Someone preparing a beer. Like, give Don the big shake hires people.

[Ian Crossland]

He's like, always make sure that I get the biggest and the best of everything. Make sure. He's definitely a showman. I. He's kind of less of a. A showman since he got into politics and he's more about just.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. When he started, he was very much a show.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Now I think he's just pissed and like, really? He says, hell, he said the J6 committee should be in jail. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

In the doge.

[Kristen]

He's out of. He's all out of to give.

[Ian Crossland]

He's like, good. Elon Vivek, take over. We're slashing the.

[Kristen]

I really hope that. I really hope that that is a legit thing, that they do a good job with that because I frankly am dubious that anyone has the guts to deal with our debt problem. I just don't know in a democracy if that is a solvable issue when the votes really depend on getting an older demographic to support you and to support your party. And I just feel like any real, any real solutions to the debt problem, it's going to have to involve cuts to Social Security, raising retirement age. I mean, won't it?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, there's. This is an extremely unpopular truth. The. If you have a significant amount of growth annually, you can manage the debt that we have. But I don't think that that fixes the problem. I think that there have, there have to be cuts or at the very least, there has to be a halt on spending while the country grows. So as long as whoever is in, you know, in the position to make financial decisions for the country isn't taking. That isn't talking about, you know, cutting or preventing the increases, you know, stopping the growth of the debt. Stopping, you know, stopping the growth of the, of the deficit. If they're not talking about that, then they're not talking about fixing the problem right now. I just looked it up the other day. Right now, without changes, Social Security, Medicare go insolvent in 2033. That's eight years. So I mean, if you want to actually fix the problem because all of the fear mongering that they're going to do about hey grandma's going to be thrown out of, you know, she's not going to get the care she needs and they're going to steal from grandma and blah blah, blah, all of that stuff doesn't matter because it will be worse if the dollar becomes insolvent, right? It'll be worse for them, it'll be worse for everybody in the country first of all and it'll be the most bad for the people that are most vulnerable, the poor people, the people that are old. They will, they will suffer more from that, from the dollar becoming insolvent than from, than from anything else.

[Kristen]

And we, we see that. By the way, I'm not crying over the debt. Having an allergy attack ill timed but.

[Tim Pool]

She'S crying over so you scratched your eye.

[Phil Labonte]

If there's anything to cry over when it comes to government stuff, it's the debt.

[Kristen]

Just I hope though like I know Elon and, and Vivek like they, they talk a great game and, but I just, I don't know if anyone has it in them to really address the debt problem in the way that it has to be but maybe I can.

[Ian Crossland]

I know how to do it. You got to fix the energy, you got to fix our fuel economy. Basically right now we're heavily reliant on carbon.

[Phil Labonte]

We're too, we're graphene.

[Ian Crossland]

Graphene's cool.

[Tim Pool]

Graphene's carbon.

[Ian Crossland]

Graphene is carbon. Graphene's down. With graphene material we can create but what's happened is we've become plastic, carbon. It's legit like oil and coal are super legit but we're heavily reliant on it too heavily reliant for our economy to thrive. Geothermal, we need hydrogen fuel, nuclear and they figured out geos legit, but it's not fuel. Nuclear is legit, but it's not fuel. Fuel is transportable and hydrogen is transportable. So we can retrofit our methane pipes to transport hydrogen. And they figured out with this flash jewel heating where they, I mean they electrify carbon and turn it into graphene, they give off hydrogen.

[Tim Pool]

I don't want to change a century, centuries long oil infrastructure any, it's a.

[Ian Crossland]

But that is the, that's the actual like Elon and Vivek are great at slowing the bleed, they're slowing it down. But if we really want to push forward now that we've, we've mitigated the detriments, we need a new fuel People and it's hydrogen.

[Tim Pool]

People are wondering what's up with Colonel Cross. His eye. I sprayed her with the Trump perfume when she walked in. And she's having a reaction to it.

[Kristen]

No, I told him I had a scratch. I scratched my eye. And then I think. I don't know if it's allergies or.

[Ian Crossland]

It'S just kind of dehydration. Do you have. You want water?

[Kristen]

I really am crying though.

[Ian Crossland]

I'll get you some water. Water helps me.

[Kristen]

I've got. I've got water here.

[Ian Crossland]

Got it.

[Phil Labonte]

Listen, the.

[Ian Crossland]

Never mind then.

[Phil Labonte]

The dead is. Is something. Crying over the dead is something you should.

[Ian Crossland]

That's terrifying.

[Kristen]

I'm like the, the Indian in the pollution commercial.

[Ian Crossland]

So once we.

[Tim Pool]

Once we make fuel cheap pollution commercial. Like it was in favor of pollution.

[Kristen]

I remember, you know, the guy throws.

[Tim Pool]

A litter out the window and then he looks and then a tear comes down. I just love that. The notion there that it was like for the average American, the Native Americans cared substantially more about the land than you. That was the message. Like you're insulting these people. It's like you've stolen for everything from them. What look now what you look at you're doing.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I was. Feel bad. Feel bad about what you've done.

[Kristen]

Effective commercial.

[Ian Crossland]

I actually have a lot of hope and faith in the account because the other thing that's going to happen is the United States is going to adopt crypto as part of its like portfolio and then the people without crypto are going to be destitute. This is a potential future. And then there will be an income equality war or some sort of like.

[Kristen]

Civil think that's going to happen. Or that's.

[Ian Crossland]

If we don't. If we don't step on the gas literally and upgrade our fuel systems to integrate hydrogen, it's going to be a big economic split with the people that had crypto and the people that didn't because the US dollar is insolvent. It can't. The only. We can increase the value of our GDP by enhancing our fuel economy by. By making new fuel sources that are cheaper to make. That will increase our G, which then makes 36 trillion. Actually only whatever 10 trillion. It still says 36 on paper, but everything's three times cheaper. So that 36 trillion can buy you $120 trillion worth of stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Or we just drill more. More oil.

[Ian Crossland]

We should be doing that because you can turn the oil into graphene. You can reuse this even if you don't use it for fuel. The carbon and the oil, it's still super valuable. Plastics, all this transport and you can convert it into building materials. So yeah, we, we can really, we can really step it up at all. I think it all relies on the.

[Phil Labonte]

Fuel man that I, I've heard they're making. I and I don't know, I haven't done any kind of actual digging, but I've heard they've made some really significant advances in, in battery technology.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah. Solid state batteries were a big deal a couple years ago that they had figured out how to do that and that means they can be very, very small and have tons of energy.

[Ian Crossland]

They figured out how to use nuclear waste and battery diamond batteries.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, there was this thing they were. I read about how it's like a tiny piece of radioactive like material or whatever and it just powers it for.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I think it causes like a, a vibration in the lattice of the crystal of the diamond and then it causes like this slow energy pulse because it's constantly. I think it's piezo, might be piezoelectric because it's constantly like.

[Tim Pool]

They've been talking about that for a while where you would, your cell phone would charge as you walked from the vibrations. And, and we talked about this before too with that flashlight that you would whack off.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You ever see those? It has the magnet in the middle and so you go like this and it sends the magnet back and forth through the copper coil and then it charges the battery.

[Ian Crossland]

You could get a really big one too if you wanted probably.

[Tim Pool]

Or I could get two of them.

[Ian Crossland]

You could definitely get two.

[Kristen]

Like a good time.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it'd be really, really fun.

[Tim Pool]

And, and I. Guys, you know the people who make the, the clips of the show are like, guys, we've already memed these. We've already turned them into GIFs. There's no point doing it again.

[Phil Labonte]

Everything's about you guys.

[Ian Crossland]

Dude. Battery tech is super promising because I think there's like huge leaps constantly.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, because I mean if you can, if you can get, if you could like double or triple the current battery storage capability for batteries and stuff, then you really make nuclear like it makes nuclear almost a no brainer because nuclear super efficient. The actual nuclear waste people think of like green sludge, but it's rods that. It's actually actual metal rods that are, that are encased in concrete and metal. And if I understand correctly, there's never been a, A any kind of problem with the nuclear waste material. It's not liquid. It's not like the, it's not like the, you know, green sludge that made the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It's easy to store and it's easy to transport. There's. There was a. There was a big car accident when they were transporting it and there was no damage to the vessel that the nuclear waste is. Is carried in. And again, again, people think of this, of liquid that's going to ooze everywhere. They're metal rods and they're encased in concrete and metal. So it's not like it isn't what people think it is. Nuclear is the way, man. Nuclear is the actual solution to our energy problems, especially if you get serious battery storage.

[Kristen]

Is Elon a proponent of nuclear?

[Phil Labonte]

He's pro nuclear. Yeah. He thinks that solar is the be all end all.

[Ian Crossland]

But I do solar.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he says solar. He thinks that. If I understand correctly, he thinks that there. That eventually we'll be able to get the efficiency of solar panels to like quadruple.

[Tim Pool]

Who cares about solar panels? Do you point some mirrors at a vat of water and it boils the water and spins a turbine maybe, and.

[Ian Crossland]

Then we're done and the mirrors could be in orbit and the vat could be on Earth. Like the orbital solar is really a.

[Tim Pool]

Lot, but it's just easier to have an array of mirrors. So there was a viral post where they were. Someone flew over Vegas and they were.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, yo, what is this? This?

[Tim Pool]

And there's two towers with mirrors pointed at them. And all it is is a gigantic vat of. I think it's salt water.

[Ian Crossland]

Salt. Molten salt. It's just salt.

[Tim Pool]

It's just molten salt in. In the thing.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. And it melts, stays hot overnight. It boils water.

[Tim Pool]

Right? And then it boils the water. And then the water pre. The steam pressure as it's exiting is spinning a turbine, which.

[Ian Crossland]

Those things are massively productive, energy wise. But they're not transportable. But damn, they put out a lot of power.

[Tim Pool]

We're going to go to super chats. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know, become a member [e-mail] let's jump over to your super chats, my friends. Oh, YouTube just froze on me.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, no, it always does this.

[Tim Pool]

YouTube is just. Anyway, here we go. We got schlip. He says people should be more hesitant about throwing Luigi under the bus. The trial hasn't happened yet and we don't know for sure. The potential of government railroading someone to look like they're doing something is impossible. Remember Damien Echols? You know, I was Thinking too, when he said, you're insulting the American intelligence and lived experience. Like, what if he's saying, I didn't do it?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that's Lee Harvey Oswald.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I don't really think that's the case because he could have just screamed it wasn't me.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I'm a patsy.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I'm being set up.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, that's what Lee Harvey Oswald said. He was like, I'm a patsy.

[Tim Pool]

But what does he mean by it's an insult to the American intelligence? Like, what is. What are you talking about?

[Kristen]

Yeah, maybe the health care system.

[Tim Pool]

I guess you're right.

[Ian Crossland]

You're right. Don't take it for granted the guy's innocent until he's proven guilty.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so J3TL4G says the fact you think he's a leftist shows how out of touch you are. This show has become GOP slop incapable of understanding nuance. You aren't tapped in. You, sir, are the exact thing you describe. Because we went into great detail about what it means to be left and right the other day, taking a holistic view of these terms. Notably that the traditional left and right descriptions which arise arose in the French Revolution don't apply to American politics. It makes no sense to say that Dave Rubin and Tim Pool are far right. Like, what does that really even mean? But they've been calling Joe Rogan far right and the dude support supports universal basic income, which doesn't really make sense unless you realize that right and left are references to two political tribes. So when we are speaking in terms of what matters to the American people, Leftist refers to coded language and circles around particular ideologies and worldviews. And right does similarly in the direction for someone to say lived experience. We call that coded. That means it's words only recognizable or phrases is typically recognizable to leftists. Hence if you go to a regular person and ask them about their lived experience, they're going to say, what is that? But if you go to a leftist who's in the cult, they're going to be like, of course I can tell you about my lived experience. It's a specific thing referencing them.

[Kristen]

Giveaway. Dead giveaway.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. User need to watch the show, perhaps. And you would be educated. But thank you for the super chat. I do appreciate it. All right.

[Kristen]

Do you think maybe. Let me just say, maybe there's. There's some trace of a legit critique in what maybe he's trying to say, which is that we're. Do you think maybe he could say that we're shrugging off the concerns of most Americans about the health care system.

[Tim Pool]

I think the issue is I refer to, refer to this as a scaling problem. The way I describe it, if you have a hundred self, if Apple gives out a hundred promotional phones to a hundred people people and 1% break, what happens? One guy goes on X and says my phone's broken and they go, sucks for you I guess. What if they give it 100 million phones and 1% the same margin of failure. Now you have a million people on X screaming my phone is broken. They're like, what is happening? So what we likely see with situ with instances like insurance is you're only ever going to hear about the instances where the insurance company screws people over and they do. Don't get me wrong, wrong. But how many people go, oh, I can't believe it. Today I went to the doctor and you're not going to believe this. My insurance covered everything, even things I didn't think they, that probably would cover it. They covered it. You know, I called them, make sure everything was okay. They were very nice and polite. What a great company. Never happens because literally everyone in the country has to have health insurance. You will get 330 million people and the margin. So in the scaling problem, the larger a system, the lower tolerance there is for failure. And that's what we're looking at with all major systems in this country. So I think, you know, if you had 100 customers of a health insurance provider and 10% got into an argument, no one would care. Like I swear you have 100 people and 10% failure rate. The other 90 are going to be like, we should probably. I hope you guys get that sorted. It seems like it must have been a hiccup. That's the extent to which they'll know must be a hiccup. But if 10% of the country overnight couldn't get access to healthcare, it would be the apocalypse. People would be losing their minds. And that's big. And so yes, I understand pre existing conditions should and must be covered. Sorry insurance companies, but that's a, there's a big problem there in how we handle this because we don't want government overreach. Right, but then the insurance companies would never cover someone who's got a pre existing condition. That person just goes, without health care. We got problems. You have to figure it out. Maybe we don't do insurance. Maybe it's pay as you go. I don't know. All right, what have we got? Brit Griffith, mower racing says getting ready for 2025 lawnmower racing season. Are you interested in re wrapping the mower with the updated design? The current wrap was a success for the 2024 season. I had great conversation with lots of people. Oh, let's follow up on that. We are of course sponsoring Cody Dennison in this next year. And he's got flames on the front now. And they said it was rooster wings, but I sure there's wings on the side and flames in the front.

[Ian Crossland]

Phoenix wings. They're chains of the Phoenix.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm very excited to announce that my new skateboard graphic will be coming out in a couple of weeks. And this is the 28th amendment.

[Ian Crossland]

Have you showed that one yet?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know if I've displayed it. But for those that don't know, the 28th Amendment, which I believe must be ratified said as chickens being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep, bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed. And you laughing, but I think Arizona just passed a law where they said cities can no longer ban chickens.

[Ian Crossland]

Ooh, what about roosters?

[Tim Pool]

I think, yeah, like basically you can have roosters and chickens, you know, fight about it. The. It is, it is shockingly insane to me that there are many jurisdictions that outright say you can't have chickens. And it's like, look, I understand roosters because they'd be yelling chickens. You know what I mean? Yeah, chickens, they just go book, book, book. They mind their own business.

[Ian Crossland]

They do stink.

[Kristen]

I was just laughing because we're. We're overrun with them. Where I, where I live really sounds like paradise.

[Tim Pool]

So out by us, when you're driving down the road, chickens are literally running around. And you can see that. You see them. I love. We were driving and a chicken ran across the road. And then I had to say it. It's like, why did that chicken cross the road?

[Phil Labonte]

It's like that in Hawaii too. There, there are wild chicken everywhere out.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude, it's amazing.

[Phil Labonte]

It's great.

[Tim Pool]

Chickens are great. Yeah, because like not only can you eat them, but you can also eat their. Their eggs.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, they'll eat inside.

[Tim Pool]

I actually think chicken pad Thai is like one of the greatest accomplishments of man. It is not only the pre young of the chicken, but the chicken itself mixed into it. So it's a particularly brutal. I would that. Would you consider that to be very metal, Phil, to eat its babies and itself.

[Phil Labonte]

It is when you eat yourself there, there is a Cannibal Corpse record from like late and late late 80s or very early 90s called eaten back to Life. And the COVID the zombie is eating himself.

[Tim Pool]

And I mean, like when we eat chicken pad Thai, there's chicken and egg in it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So we are taking their. Their babies and their bodies and mashing it together.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, that's more like the. The follow up to eating back to life called Butchered at Birth, where there. There's zombies, e. The babies.

[Tim Pool]

Is that for real?

[Phil Labonte]

That's. Yeah. Butcher that birth. Great record. Great record.

[Tim Pool]

There's that subreddit. Nature is metal and it's just like.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There's like the. The great. The golden eagle or whatever. It flies over and grabs the goat and then chucks them off the mountain and you just watch the goat bounce and then it goes down and eats it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. It's got.

[Tim Pool]

You ever see a goat climb a wall?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes. Crazy.

[Kristen]

Dude.

[Ian Crossland]

Goats are legit.

[Tim Pool]

That's crazy how they do that.

[Phil Labonte]

They're. They're extremely social animals too. If you only have one goat, they'll be depressed and stuff. You have multiple goats. You can't. I've just wondered, are they like inbred?

[Ian Crossland]

Cuz their eyes are all crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

Look like that's evolution. Not in breeding, but there could be inbred goats. And I'm not sure that that inbreeding has the same kind of negative effects with goats that it does with humans. But.

[Ian Crossland]

But they're not like a result of.

[Phil Labonte]

No, their eyes are. Their eyes. Their square pupils are like that. Like that's evolution.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's see what we got here. We'll grab some super chats. It just. Okay. There we go. Oh, man. YouTube's always screwing around.

[Ian Crossland]

That is so weird.

[Tim Pool]

Stone says. I just want to say that the weird furries are the vocal minority in the fandom. Most of us are just chill dudes who like SWAT cats too much. Perhaps furries could be the topic of a culture war episode one day. Just get like three furries in here to talk and defend their. Right.

[Kristen]

Yeah, that would be hilarious.

[Phil Labonte]

I will host that if you want.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we. We need some. We need some holiday episodes.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. If there are any furries out there that want to be on the. On the culture war to explain, they got to be.

[Tim Pool]

They got to bring their. They got to be wearing the full suit, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And. And yeah, you have to be fully closed. It has to be YouTube friendly weirdos.

[Tim Pool]

All right, what do we got here? Exit X. Tin man says, my theory is the drones are military and government, perhaps searching for something radiological. Chemical snuck in the country. Country. Maybe a credible threat.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, we didn't talk about that. Drones.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's do that in the members only because they have pictures of UFOs. Like the government actually released images of you. Like weird vehicles. They don't. They can't. That's cool. Yeah, it's creepy. One looks like a. Like a jack. You never play jacks where you put them on the ground? Yeah. Weird. Sweet. Yeah, Very crazy. Let's go. What do we have here? Salty says. I've got to say that it pisses me off that I'm expected to relate to Neely just because he's black. No, I have more in common with Penny. We swore the same oath, served in the same branch, and aren't a menace to society. Isn't it insane that they're. They're trying to scream to you that you have to have race as your commonality instead of the human experience and your beliefs and your passions? Did you guys see that woman screaming? White people, stay out of our neighborhoods. Or whatever.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

It's like, okay. You're like, I don't want to go in your neighborhood anyway. I guess.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, that's like illegal. If you're like, oh, white people, you can't live here. That's. That's illegal. So, I mean, I don't know. It's. It's. It's just. It's. It's silly to like constantly say, oh, it's white people's fault that this guy was on the subway harassing people and scaring people.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, was the arresting officer really named Fraud Fry?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Can someone Google that of someone? Super chat. Chatted. Anti capitalist. Arrested at McDonald's by Officer Fry. F R Y E. I don't believe it. You're. You're. You're. You're joshing, aren't you? What is Officer Fry?

[Ian Crossland]

McDonald's.

[Tim Pool]

That's funny.

[Ian Crossland]

It'd be the new McDonald's character. No, Officer Fry. Officer Tyler Fry.

[Tim Pool]

Is that it? Yeah, that was the arresting officer, apparently, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Tyler Fry, a rookie cop. We live in a simulations department.

[Tim Pool]

This is a simulation run by a 7 year old Tyler Fry.

[Ian Crossland]

He's like, well, my. My number has been called.

[Tim Pool]

What if we're in a simulation run.

[Ian Crossland]

By Elon and he made himself a.

[Kristen]

Character close to the vest?

[Tim Pool]

He's playing a video.

[Ian Crossland]

He's like, I'll give. I'll give myself God mode. I'm giving my sick. Making my character rich.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody knows when you play a video game in God mode, It's not fun.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, he seems to be having fun, so he must have earned it. He's like, I'm starting with nothing. I'm studying in South Africa.

[Tim Pool]

I'm like, I want to start the game with a billion dollars with political aspirations.

[Ian Crossland]

But he's not American, so he's. He can't be president.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Fungus Among Us says Luigi's manifesto reads like a fiction. He claims that he had basic CAD skills, but the Glock frame he printed, he didn't design. It's a well known design by Chairman Juan. I don't believe he wrote it. Well, no, I think he is. Like, I didn't have any particular skills. Like, if you understand basic, like some people don't even know what cat is. Okay, so he downloaded a design and that was it.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not even sure that it was. So the, the, the picture that I saw, I'm not sure that that was, that was even printed. It looked like one of the old polymer 30s which were claiming it was printed. Yeah, I mean that's, that's what I hear as well. But it looks like one of the, the old polymer 30s, which was. You could build it at home, it was just the lower receiver, which is not serialized, so you could sell them and there's technically not a gun and you would put it together at home, but. And it's made of the same. You know, it is polymer, but it's not actually printed. It's just that you bought it on, on, you know, in the open market.

[Tim Pool]

Jacob Holly says, my God, every single subreddit is going nuts with the guy being caught. They're calling for cleansing their enemies and ending all capitalists and calling for open revolution. Insane. You know, it'd be funny if just like Reddit is all CAA bots just talking to each other.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Look, man, the only real one don't call for revolution. You probably haven't run more than 100 yards in your whole life and you're probably going to die.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man, that's why it's so funny. Like these, these, these leftists celebrating for it. And I'm like, okay, there's basic math. On average, conservatives are going to have more knowledge of what they can eat outside and how to warm themselves than a people, someone who lives in the city. And they're likely on well water. If society collapses, the urban individuals who rely on these, these big water, this big water infrastructure in their city, oh, they're done because your water stops overnight. And then the people who live out in the middle of nowhere are going to be like pumps on. I don't know. We got a backup generator and the pump's been going, water's fine.

[Kristen]

It's kind of like in Gone with the wind when all the guys are jonesing for war and somebody reminds them actually, you know, the, the north, like they have all the industry, they're going to have us beat. It's. It's kind of like at all these revolutionaries, these left wing revolutionary who think that they're going to fare really well in a fight to the death with conservatives.

[Tim Pool]

It's kind of, it's kind of insane when you, when you like these people are just larping. It's live action role play. Right. They bring fireworks, right. It's like I watched a video of a guy lobbing fireworks at police because they do it all the time. And I was, I'm just thinking to myself, like, like what is the real point? Okay. These things can cause damage, they can seriously hurt people, but it's like the lowest degree of explosive you could throw. So the question is, if they're going to throw explosives, why are they throwing fireworks? Because they don't really want to hurt anybody, but they want to have the explosion and simulate conflict because they're bored. They're children playing a game of revolutionaries and cops. And revolutionaries.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Right. They wouldn't. There. It's like the joker, you know, if they caught the dog, they wouldn't know what to do with it, right? I mean, if they caught the taxi, a dog chasing a car, if he actually got it, he would know what to do with it.

[Kristen]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

It's true.

[Tim Pool]

They're not smart people. But you know what, you know what my prediction was? Did you guys see the video of the guy crashing the car into the yeah today dealership?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That guy's got no kids.

[Phil Labonte]

He doesn't.

[Tim Pool]

My bet. Oh, I mean, if they come out and say actually he did, I'd be like, wow. But I bet he has no kids, this guy. Luigi. No kids. People with families don't do this stuff.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

You have to be optimistic if you have a family, definitely that's the option.

[Tim Pool]

Unless you're like John Brown. You bring the kids with you. I guess so that's what he was doing.

[Phil Labonte]

But I mean, like, that's something that we say all the time here that like people that are happy and have something to live for don't engage in revolutionary activities. That's why the left finds the people that are upset and angry at society and they fill their heads full of leftist Mumbo jumbo.

[Tim Pool]

And this is interesting. Ms. Richie Blackmore says Luigi Mangione is from a family of super. A super elite family in Baltimore that owns entire healthcare facilities. There's far more to the story than mainstream narrative. Look at Brian Thompson and insider trading. Could it be that he was actually angry about like Brian Thompson stole money or something from his family?

[Phil Labonte]

Maybe.

[Tim Pool]

I think if this any. Here's the thing about the conspiracies. If any of this was true, he wouldn't have screamed. It's an insult to the American people and lived experience. He would have said he stole from my family.

[Phil Labonte]

I really strongly feel like, you know, it's, it's just his head was filled with leftist garbage.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

On November 8th, the SEC filed insider trading against Brian Thompson.

[Tim Pool]

Really? Yeah. He's going to be investigated.

[Ian Crossland]

That's interesting.

[Phil Labonte]

But even still, insider trading has nothing to do with the way that the health care or health insurance stuff operates to the average person. So if he's, if he was an insider trading, if he was doing insider trading, that's bad. Like in an abstract way, but it doesn't affect people getting care. You know what I mean?

[Ian Crossland]

I wonder if this guy saw that he was doing insider trading, is like, he's the problem, had that state of mind, like he's just all about profit.

[Phil Labonte]

I couldn't speak to that.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know that like the conspiracies make too many leaps. This is the problem. Are conspiracies real? Yes. Is this possibly one? Sure. But if you're going to in your mind, map out a pie graph of probabilities, crazy, unhinged dude who read garbage, garbled nonsense on the Internet is much, much larger of the pie graph than anything else.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Retribution, retaliation.

[Ian Crossland]

The spark is less relevant than what bred that guy's state of mind.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. All right, let's go. The Y wing says leftists talking about how college graduates disproportionately voted for HAR Paris. Turns out they also disproportionately shoot healthcare CEOs. Go figure. Haha.

[Ian Crossland]

You know?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we talked about a little bit, people. It's, it's. Millennials are plagued by credentialism where they're like, my parents told me if I get a degree, it makes me better than you. And you're like, yeah, well, you can't get a job, you make no money, you're in debt and you're a communist. So how's that working out for you? All right. SV G says the guy 100 got caught intentionally because he could have easily disappeared. They had no idea who he was. It wanted the reason to be known. It.

[Ian Crossland]

Or he was gonna do it again. Maybe.

[Tim Pool]

There's some rumors that he actually had other plans.

[Ian Crossland]

He had a new gun.

[Tim Pool]

Something was gonna happen. The fake IDs.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There's a plan for something tomorrow. Apparently. People were saying. And then they caught him. They didn't know. The police said that this guy wasn't even on the radar until someone. Yeah, they spot him at the McDonald's.

[Phil Labonte]

I feel like if he had. He's. If considering the fact that he had money, if he really didn't want to get caught, he could have been in an. On an airplane and on the way to Hawaii before his face got spread all over the news that same day.

[Ian Crossland]

And not with a bunch of fake IDs. Yeah, I agree. I think that he was planning on doing something again. If this is the guy.

[Tim Pool]

All right, well, we, We. We gotta do it. We gotta do it. Where's the. Wait, I think I just lost the super chat Retro.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, no, you'll find it.

[Tim Pool]

I'll find it. Let me. Let me keep looking. It's. It's from base to Jew. Here he goes. I'm sorry we have to do this, ladies and gentlemen, because it's a birthday request based. Says it's my birthday. Ian, can we get a Roberto Jr. Crow? All right. You know, I didn't want to. I didn't want to do it because I'm like, that's going to be upsetting to a lot of people. But it is a birthday request and I felt kind of bad. Dad, you only get one birthday a year. You know, when he super chatted in, I felt like he deserved that birthday present.

[Phil Labonte]

The. The. The strangled choke at the end.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Oh, every night. I heard that. 4:00am Dude, I know him well.

[Tim Pool]

That's why he died.

[Ian Crossland]

Love you, Roberto Jr. Whatever you had.

[Tim Pool]

Going on in there, man had a heart attack.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah, he had a.

[Tim Pool]

He had a bad heart. I remember when he first started learning to crow. He would. He would collapse.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, because he had like a breathing issue.

[Ian Crossland]

Push it to the limit, dude.

[Kristen]

Squeezing his chicken of yours years.

[Tim Pool]

It was rooster. It was the son of Roberta. Roberto was the first rooster. He still. Roberto is chilling at New Chicken City. And now there's RB3. He's the king. He's Roberto's grandson.

[Kristen]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

Roberto Junior's kid. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Limb bread Bastard. Junior.

[Tim Pool]

Roberto.

[Ian Crossland]

Roberto was his mother or something?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Ian Crossland]

Was that one the case?

[Tim Pool]

No, those were. Those are the first.

[Ian Crossland]

I take it back, rj.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. No. Roberto banged his daughters and had other heather daughter grandchildren. His grand daughter daughters.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. He ze it out.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that's chickens. He ze it out. Yeah, indeed he did. All right. Jimmy says, what are the chances Luigi gets rubbed out in a jail cell? Pretty good, I would say. Well, we know what happens in jails between these guys, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you mean killed? Oh, well, I guess maybe.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't. I mean, I'm not really sure why it's not. I mean, I haven't heard anything about him being a kid diddler. And that's what tends to get you heavy problems in.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. They're gonna. I don't know what's gonna happen to this game. All right, let's go. Dr. Y says Phil, unh. Pays 850 a share dividend on 920.28 million shares for an annual shareholder payout of 7.5 billion.

[Phil Labonte]

Holy crap.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta buy me some of that.

[Ian Crossland]

I gotta hear that.

[Tim Pool]

What was that about Unhappy.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. United healthcare. That's.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. 850 a share. And shares are like 500 and something bucks. 600.

[Ian Crossland]

It's down to 850 a share now.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

They pay a dividend.

[Ian Crossland]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Of 850 a share.

[Phil Labonte]

So they pay 850 per share that you own. If you buy like, you know, 10,000 shares, you'll get 88 or $85,000 in dividends or whatever. So the total. What he was talking about, the total billions, is how many. How much the total dividend payout from the company is to all of their shareholders. So.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Kieran the meat man says, Tim, you're wrong. There's a super simple way to hire family members for a fake job way above market rate. Be a politician. Hey, there we go. All right. Amalgamaniac Gaming says Brett Cooper just had her last comment section video today, and they're giving the show to her producer, Reagan, the God king, taking it another L. I don't see it that way. Everybody was spreading this rumor, you know, and they're like, oh, what's going to happen? What's going to happen? And I'm like, guys, it's really obvious. Brett Cooper is a young conservative woman and she got married recently. So obviously contract negotiations are going to come in. And my. My assumption is that. And I could be totally wrong. Don't get me wrong. Based on what you see, like, they launched the show in the first place. They own the Show. Brett is the principal talent. She probably said, I want to work less and make more. And they were like, nope. And she's like, I am going to spend time with my family, and I want to have a family. I just got married and be on my farm. And they were probably like, we need someone to host a show, host the show full time. And I think it's that simple. I think this is the pitfall of being a conservative company, hiring young female conservatives. They're going to want to go be women. You know what I mean? Like, guys might be like, I'll work forever until my hands fall off, but women are going to say, I need family time. Guys are going to say that too. Don't get me wrong. But women more so than guys. So that's my assumption. I don't know. But I don't actually know why anyone cares to be amicable.

[Ian Crossland]

Jeremy and Brett both made public statements about the amicable finale. Finale. Her contract ended.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I had a contract for Fusion. It ended. Whatever. You know what I mean? Like, of course, everybody acts like everything's such a big deal. It's, like, so much drama, you know? Like, Candace left when her contract ended, too, and everyone's like, oh, she's getting fired. I'm like, guys, her contract is over. You know, I mean, like, certainly that was not amicable. You know, they don't seem to get along. Candace and Ben want to debate and all that stuff, but I think Brett, it's what, three years, right? And she's probably like, I want more money and I want to work less. I think that's really probably it. It's a big show. And they were probably like, yeah, we're not going to do it. We want someone who's going to work full time and host a show. Show. And so looks like they got somebody already. All right, let's grab some more super chats. What is this here? Sovereign Fish says the tax code is designed to keep the working class working. There is a glass ceiling around 2 to 3 million that is extremely hard to get past. Once you break through, it's easier to take advantage of loopholes and make more money. Indeed, this is correct.

[Ian Crossland]

And then I hear, according to Kanye, there's a diamond ceiling up there at around, I don't know, 800 million. Maybe it's 80, maybe it's 8 billion.

[Tim Pool]

Is that what he said?

[Ian Crossland]

He just couldn't get through that ceiling?

[Tim Pool]

Say that.

[Ian Crossland]

He's insinuated that there's a level of wealth. You get to where you've got to make some deals to get to the next level.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Unwilling.

[Tim Pool]

He's right though. There's. These levels aren't real. It's just that the amount of money, like to get to the level of wealth, say like of Elon Musk, you need a massive corporation. Massive, massive, massive. And his wealth is just tied in stock of the various companies.

[Ian Crossland]

I think Elon's stuck at that ceiling too. They're not going to.

[Tim Pool]

Elon's the richest man in the world.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe on paper they like you to know that things that. But like the king of Jordan, the king of Saudi Arabia.

[Kristen]

These guys like liquid being liquid. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think Elon is Vladimir.

[Tim Pool]

Vladimir Putin is arguably the richest man in the world because he has the wealth of the entire nation of Russia that he hoards and keeps. And there's estimates of like 700 billion that he controls.

[Ian Crossland]

I heard the Rothschild family is worth 330 trillion in like 2011. I haven't was able to confirm it.

[Phil Labonte]

Because of course it doesn't mean anything. Dude, to be honest, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The king of Saudi Arabia owns Saudi Arabia. That means that he owns all the oil reserves. Reserves in Saudi Arabia. Whoever. Like if the. If it's not. What was that?

[Tim Pool]

And they have armies.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Like they are probably the richest people on earth.

[Tim Pool]

All right, everybody smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, become a member [e-mail] because that members only show is coming up in about a minute. And guess what? For everybody who is a member, we now offer a 15% discount on all cast brew products. So when you sign up, you'll get a welcome email. And for everybody else, we'll just put in the discord. So you know what the. What you like. Well, we'll have a code for you. I'll put it that way. So you can follow me on Accent, Instagram at Timcast and again, smash the like button. Colonel Kurtz, you want to shout anything out?

[Kristen]

Thank you. You can join me on my channel. I'll be crying over the debt some more. Colonel Kurtz 99 on YouTube, Twitter and Instagram.

[Tim Pool]

Word.

[Ian Crossland]

Follow me at Ian Crossland. This is the name behind me as usual.

[Tim Pool]

And I think.

[Ian Crossland]

Is that Roberto Jr. Is that just not.

[Tim Pool]

That is a chicken portrait that I bought and it was very expensive.

[Ian Crossland]

So worship it. It's just a chicken. Find yourself. Hey, be good to yourself tonight too. See you later.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil. That remains on Twix. You can subscribe to my X page there I am Phil. It remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. We have a new record coming out January 31, 2025. The new record Antifragile will be available. You can pre order. It is the it is the pinned tweet on my X page. You can go to YouTube, you can go to Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and Deezer to check out our Check out four videos from that new record Forever Cold, let you go, no Tomorrow and Divine. And don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

We will see you all [e-mail] in about a minute. Thanks for hanging out.