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Chinese "Spies" Indicted For Attempted BOMBING Of US Central Command, WW3 w/ Stella Escobedo
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Tim Pool
My name is Mackenzie and I started
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Stella Escobedo
a GoFundMe for the adoptive mother of a nonverbal autistic child. The mother had lost her job because she wasn't able to find adequate care
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Tim Pool
for this autistic child. So she really needed some help with living expenses, paying some back bills. So I launched a GoFundMe to help support them during this crisis, and we
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Stella Escobedo
raised about $10,000 within just a couple of months.
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Tim Pool
I think that the surprising thing was by telling a clear story and just like really being very clear about what we needed, we had some really generous donations from people who were really moved by the situation that this family was struggling with. GoFundMe is the world's number one fundraising
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A brother and sister have been indicted for planting a bomb outside of Central Command. Apparently they fled to China. One may have been arrested. Another individual is at large. This story is crazy. I'm surprised it's not the headline news everywhere because many people are saying very likely Chinese spies attacking the United States for some reason. We also have another story from a couple weeks ago that didn't get picked up. Unauthorized drones flying over a US Air Force base is getting kind of weird, so we'll talk about that, but we've got a bunch of massive news. While Donald Trump is saying Iran is basically cooked and we're winding things down, we're also getting reports that we are just flattening more military sites in Iran. Things are getting absolutely crazy down there. And there is this great thread that outlines Donald Trump's plan for for global domination. Sounds crazy, but I think it's pretty much spot on. We've talked quite a bit about Donald Trump's foreign policy plans and based on this breakdown, it looks like Iran is the last piece of the puzzle for Donald Trump. And if his strategy plays out here, the US Will be the uni party. I mean, I'm sorry, the unipolar global power, the hegemonic power, making America great, great again, I guess, in that way. And we got another crazy story. Candace Owens went after Nick Shirley, which has a lot of people scratching their heads. Of course, Nick Shirley has been doing amazing work exposing fraud in Democrat cities and states. Candace Owens came out claiming that he was fake news and that he was fabricating stories. We'll get into the details on that because it is weird. And I actually have the story that was in question was about Brazil. I have firsthand experience there and I could corroborate Nick Shirley's reporting. This is, this is a weird story. We'll talk about that a whole lot more before we do. We got a great sponsor for you, my friends. It is True Gold Republic. Go to truegoldrepublic.com Tim Having sound money and financial independence is important. Hard assets are extremely important. That's why check out True Gold Republic. Look at the world right now. Active war is NATO under pressure. The dollar being weaponized, $36 trillion in debt. We've printed so much money since 2020 that your savings are worth less every year by design. Gold can't be printed. It can't be sanctioned, can't be devalued by a press release. Central banks are buying it at record levels right now. The people who run the system are hoarding the one thing they cannot print that says everything. Insert True Gold Republic. Real physical gold and silver. Not paper, not ETFs, metal you can hold. Check out their Independence bundle. A physical gold starter kit, a one on one with their experts and bonus precious metals on top. The chaos is not coming, my friends. It's here and we're about to talk about it. So go to truegoldrepublic.com Tim to claim your independence bundle. Or call 1-800-628-GOLD Shout out to True Gold Republic. Don't forget to also smash that, like button, share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more. We've got Stella Escobedo.
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Stella Escobedo
Hi, Tim. Good to see you. Thank you for having me.
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Ian Crossland
Absolutely. Who are you?
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Tim Pool
What do you do?
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Stella Escobedo
I'm do. I'm great.
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Tim Pool
What do you. What do you do?
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Stella Escobedo
What do I do? So I'm just a, A, A girl living in this. Living the American dream.
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Tim Pool
No, really, it's a random person. We saw you, we were like, she looks good.
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Stella Escobedo
He's on me on the street. No, I came to this country as a refugee and so I'm living the American dream. I've been a journalist. I spent almost 20 years in mainstream media. Gotta go back and gotta go back.
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Tim Pool
I gotta go back.
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Stella Escobedo
Why am I going back? I'm like, no, I'm not going back. This is my country. And now I'm just doing my own thing. Independent media where it's at.
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Tim Pool
Right on.
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Stella Escobedo
Following in your footsteps. I appreciate what you've been doing.
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Tim Pool
Really, I appreciate it. Should be fun. Of course. We got Carter, Ian and Phil hanging out today.
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Ian Crossland
Sup, homie?
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Tim Pool
Let's jump into the news. We've got this from Fox 13. Brother and sister charged after an explosive device was found outside MacDill Air Force Base. Of course, this is the home of Central Command, they said. According to the FBI, Allen Zhang, 20, faces multiple federal charges, including attempting to damage government property, unlawfully making a destructive device, and possessing an unregistered destructive device. His sister, Anne Mary Jang, 27, was booked on charges of witness tampering and acting as an accessory after the fact. Quote, it was very. Oh, I'm sorry, they say this. The U.S. attorney's Office of the Middle District of Florida said the Investigation began on March 10 when a 911 call warned of a bomb near the base's visitor center. At the time, no device had been located. It was very short and very cryptic, but he said that a bomb had been placed on McDill Air Force Base. Quote, you have something in a secluded location and hidden in the visitor center. And it just took a little bit more time to get there. If you're going to examine our more sensitive assets on the MacDill Air Force Base. Not that, not that the visitor center isn't an important asset, but obviously Central Command is there. Six days later, they say an Air Force service member discovered a hidden explosive device near the visitor center. Investigators later determined it was an improvised explosive device capable of causing serious harm or death. Interesting, quote, why it didn't detonate at the time is a question we'd like to ask Mr. Shang. Our last notification is that he is in the People's Republic of China as we speak.
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Ian Crossland
Wow.
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Tim Pool
According to federal prosecutors, Alan Zhang purchased the phone used to make the threat at a Best Buy. And surveillance video captured him making the purchase and using a vehicle later tied to the case. This is nuts. I mean, this is absolutely crazy. We've got this from the DOJ's website. We also have another story from Fox News. Unauthorized drones detected over US Air Force base housing nuclear capable B52 bombers. This is Barksdale AFB in Louisiana, I believe. We've got this great thread that I want to, I want to run through with you guys in a second. We'll do it after this. But I do believe that Iran is the final piece of Trump's foreign policy maneuver as it pertains to natural gas and oil. And if Trump succeeds here, then I will put it this way, we don't win instantly, right? Succeeding in Iran doesn't mean the game is over. Checkmate. We won. It puts us at such an advantage that our adversaries, China, Russia, etc. Will have no choice but slowly start bending to the will of the US hegemonic authority.
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Phil That Remains
Look, this is something that I actually think that if the U.S. is going to use hard power, this is what it should be for.
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Stella Escobedo
Control the energy, control the system.
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Phil That Remains
Well, it should be, it should be doing things that are pro America long term. Right? So there's been so many times that the US has used military force to do things for other countries or do things that weren't in the US's best interest or weren't America first, essentially. And even if you're an anti war person, if you accept the narrative that's here, this is unquestionably America first, of course.
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Stella Escobedo
And President Trump has talked. They're trying to make it seem, you know, that President Trump, why, why does he need to go into Iran? He's always talked about that Iran has been a threat for all these years. So there was a White House press briefing today, pretty much with Marco Rubio talking about it. What was it? Since 1979, they've been a threat. And when people, when they chant Death to America, they're not just using words. If they could launch a nuclear weapon into the United States, they would have done it yesterday. And Donald Trump has been talking about it for years. He hasn't changed his mind. And this is America first. And I think you have this different camp of America, only an America first. You cannot be without allies, you can't, you can't isolate yourself completely.
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Tim Pool
I think the, the sad reality is I, I've, I'm, I, I, I, I would argue that our generation, the millennials, have what Ian referred to as pissed. Post intervention stress disorder from the Iraq and Afghanistan was I, I called it post intervention stress disorder, and then Ian pointed out it was pissed.
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Ian Crossland
Called anagram. I don't know. I put the letters together.
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Tim Pool
Acronym.
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Ian Crossland
Acronym.
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Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
And so my point is that we're very skeptical on these interventions because they did not work in the past. That being said, there are two extreme camps here. Certainly there are varying opinions, somewhat in the middle. But you have people who are saying no intervention ever, no war. We should be, we should be isolationist. I'm not saying everybody who's anti war is isolationist. Certainly you're allowed to be critical of these interventions in wars. I respect that. But you have these dominant voices that are, that are isolationist or that we should share power. I'm not interested in sharing power. I have no problem with soft power and leveraging our wealth and resources. But if the alternative, if the choices I had was the US Is going to bow down, drop the curtain, and we are now second class to China.
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Stella Escobedo
Nope.
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Tim Pool
Hail.
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Stella Escobedo
No, nope, not.
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Tim Pool
So I'm not saying our only option is war with Iran. I'm not saying that. But it does appear, based on the moves Trump has made, he really is thinking about making America great again. And that does include forcing everybody onto the petrodollar system, which, admittedly, I did not think was going to be a big component of his play early on. Certainly I thought he focused more on boosting our manufacturing and our population. But I think Trump, Trump learned an important lesson.
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Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
And that is one of the, one of the working theories is that the, the uniparty, the deep state was intentionally ceding power to China to avoid World War III to avoid what's called Thucydides Trap. I think Trump gets in in the first, you know, first term and says, no, no, we're going to get our jobs back. We're going to build our borders up, we're going to secure our borders, we're going to, you know, bolster the American family. And then he realized that our economy is propped up on the petrodollar. And so before you do this, you have to secure that.
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Stella Escobedo
Yes.
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Tim Pool
And the unit party says, no, no, we're giving that up. And Trump's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So now war.
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Phil That Remains
Well, and another thing, the amount of debt that the US Is in. Right. Like, we owe so much money. And the only way to guarantee that we don't have a significant default in the next five years is to make sure that there's a demand for dollars. And the way to make sure that there's a demand for dollars is to make sure that the petrodollar is the currency that basically runs the world. So this is more than just about Iran or even more than just about China. This is about making sure that we don't default on our debt.
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Stella Escobedo
Right. And also, I live in California, and the gas prices, I mean, in general are high. Right now, we're almost up to $7. And I tell people, like, this is temporary. And by the way, we have a lot of taxes. Okay. We should not be paying $7. Okay. At the. At the highest, we should be paying $3 a gallon. Eventually it's going to come down. I want to talk about China. You were talking about what happened at. At that base. Yeah, I think we've been infiltrated. We. And of course, we've been infiltrated on so many different levels. And, you know, we were reporting. I was reporting, you know, on the news that China has been buying up land in the United States near military bases. And you were talking about. We were talking behind the scenes. You're like, why isn't this on the news? Why isn't this mainstream media? That does not surprise me. They don't talk about these big stories, but we've been infiltrated on many different levels here.
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Tim Pool
Yeah. Wow. And you have to wonder why they would plant these bombs. What is the goal? Who benefits? Why do it? And there's a couple different trains of thought. Of course, always false flags come to mind. But I wonder if it's just that Trump is about to tip the scale in such a way that it will not be reversed. And so we are going to see desperate actions from infiltrators, from our adversaries and enemies.
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Phil That Remains
If I understand correctly, there's a summit that Trump is meeting with Xi. I believe they've moved it to May.
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Stella Escobedo
He. Did he put that out the other day, I think yesterday. Yeah.
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Phil That Remains
The whole situation in Iran, particularly if they can get the Strait of Hormuz under control and get the situation in Iran, basically, doesn't have to be one, but it has to be under control and not seem like it spiraling, firingly out of control. She's going to come to the table with nothing.
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Stella Escobedo
Well, Trump has talked about how he wants to isolate China. Yeah, he's been saying this for a couple of years now. And this is exactly what he's doing.
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Phil That Remains
If you remember when I think it was Anthony Blinken met with the Chinese delegation, I think it was in Alaska. They specifically said, you are not negotiating from a place of power. This is during the Biden administration. They specifically said, you are not negotiating from a place of power. Like that is incredibly disrespectful. It is, it is trying to basically push the US around. And now when, when President Trump meets with Xi, it's going to be 180 degrees there. He's totally flipped the table. And Xi is going to be in a position where he's going to have to make deals with the US that are favorable to the US not to China.
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Stella Escobedo
And he's also taking on terrorism. He wants to do deals with these Middle Eastern countries and be like, yo, the old school thought, let's put that to rest. Like this thought of like jihadism. And he's trying, he's trying his best to say let's do business. And you do have moderate. You have the uae, you have the Saudis. And the Saudis are actually supporting Trump going after Iran are not so much because then Qatar is left on an
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Phil That Remains
island with MBS has said, yeah, keep going after going.
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Tim Pool
Yeah.
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Phil That Remains
And totally in the US side.
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Stella Escobedo
It's incredible though that you have these Arab nations who are coming out and supporting President Trump. And today President Trump said, NATO, where you at? Yeah, you guys weren't anywhere.
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Ian Crossland
Well, NATO's a defensive pact, so.
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Stella Escobedo
Right. But. But they're.
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Tim Pool
But it's not. No, no, no, no, no. No one's asking them to trigger a defensive pact. He's saying you're our European allies offensive alliance. That's not what. That's immaterial.
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Ian Crossland
Defensive allies to an offensive war.
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Tim Pool
That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. NATO is defense has nothing to do what we're talking about.
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Ian Crossland
Sometimes you disband a defensive treaty and
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Tim Pool
you fundamentally misunderstand the point being made.
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Ian Crossland
You don't call in.
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Tim Pool
You are not pact for an attack triggering Article 5. Naito.
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Ian Crossland
And what are you asking where they're at? They're doing. They're exactly where they.
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Tim Pool
We are asking our allies to join us in the war. That has nothing to do with Article 5.
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Ian Crossland
It's a defensive alliance.
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Tim Pool
That's called Article 5. Ian, you don't know what you're talking about.
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Ian Crossland
NATO.
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Tim Pool
NATO.
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Ian Crossland
Is there an offensive Article 5 of
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Tim Pool
NATO triggers when NATO is attacked.
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Ian Crossland
Is there an offensive alliance with NATO?
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Tim Pool
Yes.
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Ian Crossland
So if one of us goes to War and attacks. The others have to. No, then there isn't one.
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Tim Pool
Are you understanding what's going on, Phil?
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Ian Crossland
Military alliance with them.
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Tim Pool
Are you understanding why there's a difference?
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Phil That Remains
There have been multiple times in history where NATO forces have engage Libya offensive.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, that's fine, but they're not.
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Tim Pool
So no one said that.
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Ian Crossland
Well, he's.
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Tim Pool
Trump is asking our allies in NATO to join our effort like they did in Libya. Right.
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Stella Escobedo
And they didn't until, I think now they've stepped up and said yes. But Trump's like, we're already good. He said. What did he say? He said today on Fox News, we're flying over. Flying all over Iran, like, owning the airspace. He's basically like, we've already won. Pretty much.
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Tim Pool
Yeah. The. The. There's nobody left.
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Stella Escobedo
Nobody.
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Tim Pool
Everybody's flat.
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Stella Escobedo
I got to say, I think most of us. Dead men walking. They even asked him. They even asked him today on Fox News, is he gay? Is he gay? He's like, that's old.
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Tim Pool
I don't. I think Mostaba is dead, and I think he died in the initial strikes 100%. But Iran can't come out and be like, there's no one left.
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Stella Escobedo
Because you know why? There'll be a civil war. Because right now there's, like, all this confusion going on as to, like, who's in charge. Oh, most of us. Let me.
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Tim Pool
You don't want civil war in that country. No.
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Stella Escobedo
I'll tell you something. Osama bin Laden was hiding in a tunnel or whatever underground before the Internet was a big thing. And we got videos and audios of him. Where's most of us who's like, think about that.
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Tim Pool
You know, I think. I think he died. And there. That's why they haven't issued any statements. They said he's been flown to Moscow.
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Stella Escobedo
Well, they said that he's been flown to Moscow. Now.
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Tim Pool
That was one of the reports for. Because his leg got injured.
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Stella Escobedo
I don't know what CNN's been like, covering it. I think they're like, the only mainstream media outlet that's there.
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Tim Pool
Well, it's because CNN's about to get purchased by CBS. So they're. They're reading the writing on the wall. Ah, yup. CBS bought by the Ellisons. They bring in Barry Weiss and the Free Press. Now CBS is doing a hostile takeover of Warner Brothers, and CNN is going to get chopped off and put under the fold of cbs, which would be crazy. And so it's actually interesting that CNN is kind of moderating. I think they know they're like, guys, if you go far left and then CBS buys you, you're fired.
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Stella Escobedo
Well, they're already, like, laying off a ton of people now.
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Tim Pool
Cnn, well, yeah, I'm surprised anybody still works there.
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Ian Crossland
I read, I don't know what to believe, but I read that Netanyahu is like, let's inspire the Iranian people to come out of their houses in revolt. Like street.
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Tim Pool
And nobody did.
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Ian Crossland
And then Trump was like, why would we do that? They'll get mowed down. Like, they don't have any.
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Stella Escobedo
Do you?
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Ian Crossland
Oversight.
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Stella Escobedo
Like in.
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Tim Pool
I don't know that what happened during the protest.
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Stella Escobedo
They started shooting people when they, what, 35,000 people were killed. They were, they weren't just massacring people. They were literally shooting them in the eyes.
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Ian Crossland
Like they would walk up to them and put.
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Stella Escobedo
No, like they, like, like they shoot you in your eyes. Like die, like.
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Tim Pool
And they've executed several young people for protesting. Yeah, it's pretty wild.
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Stella Escobedo
It's really, it's really bad. And you know what? They turned off the Internet so that we would know about it.
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Tim Pool
I do want to stress, too, to always be careful with this stuff because you never know how much of it is war propaganda. But I'll put it like this. You're always going to get these people who are anti interventionists, some of them feigning that, but they're actually just pro Iran or pro Russia or whatever. I don't, I don't know that I believe 35,000 believe that number. Well, yeah, I would say this. You know, someone asked me, like, do you actually believe Iran killed a bunch of their people? I'm like, definitely, yeah. Because they've done it before and we've seen videos of it. Now the number may be where they're flubbing things, but I don't think that the US does a good job of trying to fabricate like 30,000 deaths. There's going to be actual deaths like with Assad. I've outright explained on the show that the reason we were moved Assad was not because he was some evil dictator, but because he was barring western forces from building a gas pipeline. That being said, Assad killed a bunch of his own people because they were there was they were rising up against him. I think the same thing is true for Iran. I'm just saying I'm not going to believe everything that comes across my desk all the time. I will question that. But we've seen this stuff from Iran years ago and you can call it a grand psyop where Obama, Trump and Biden all colluded together to put out fake news about Iran. I'm sorry. I think Donald Trump really does not like the Democrats and I don't think the Democrats like Donald Trump. I think the, the, the simpler solution is that Iran has killed a large number of their people because they started to rise up and they wanted to topple this regime. Why? Well, for one, they're, they're, they're Islamic fundamentalists and not everybody is, but a lot of people are, don't get me wrong.
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Stella Escobedo
Also, it's not an Islamic country. Just so people know that.
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Tim Pool
Right.
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Stella Escobedo
The Islamic regime, like when they, they took over in 1979, they changed the flag, if you flag, they changed the national anthem. They, the not Islamic people.
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Tim Pool
I think the simple reality is like with Cuba, yeah, we saw protests in Cuba. Regular people are just telling their government, why aren't you just doing this trade deal? Why are you intentionally starting wars, getting into fights that's resulting in us having our lives made worse? If you're a regular person waking up and going to work, I don't care where you're from, you're not asking your government to start a war. This is true for the United States, it's true for Iran. So you get these protests because people are basically saying, for one, there's fundamentalism and people don't like the religious police. But I do believe a lot of it is we could have a higher standard of living. We're a major oil producer. If we just said, America, we want to trade and we don't want war, they would live like kings in Iran.
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Stella Escobedo
Right. They don't want that.
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Tim Pool
And the government wants their religious fundamentalism. Exactly. They want to fund Hezbollah And Hamas, they don't want. They do not want the stability. They want to use the leverage they have through violence to gain access. Exactly. And now you get this mass protest. What do they do? Well, I believe the first thing they tried doing was just controlling the protests. That didn't work. So then you resort to mass violence.
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Stella Escobedo
Yeah, they got the order.
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Tim Pool
But I'm gonna say this, I just wanna say one more thing. The idea that we got involved in war in Iran because of that. Absolutely not. If the US actually intervened in countries when there are humanitarian crises, we'd be at war with like. Exactly.
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Phil That Remains
We'd be in Africa forever.
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Stella Escobedo
Yeah. No, look. Yeah, I have to tell you, only 20% though, of Iran, there's like 90 million people are. The, are the Islamic fundamentalists. But they have every reason to fight back because fundamentally, for, you know, their jobs or just security, they're living large. All this money. And Obama, by the way, with the Iran nuclear deal, handed them over billions of dollars. And then we also have a huge Iran lobby in the United States.
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Tim Pool
I want to pull up this post. This is from 10 Delta on X. You may be saying, tim, who is this guy? I don't know. What is this post about? Well, let me tell you. Donald Trump's plan for world domination. And it was put so succinctly.
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Stella Escobedo
Who is this?
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Tim Pool
I am impressed. This is just some guy on X. I'm going to look at some guy next. And he. And he broke down. He's followed by Ed Krasnstein, so you know he's smart. He broke down Trump's place. Yes, Right. He broke down Trump's plan. And I'm going to give you the simple version before doing a quick skim through of this post, and I recommend you check this post out. Basically what he's saying is that Donald Trump, over the past several. The past year, has made a series of moves internationally that has cut off Russian ability to produce gas, cut off China's ability to receive energy, to produce AI. And moving into Venezuela, strengthened the US to take out the Venezuelan regime, the Cuban regime, and now Iran. It's not a victory moment, but this is the last big piece of Trump's puzzle. After Iran, the US Will have gained such control over global energy, there will be zero possibility that China will ever be able to rise as a dominant unipolar power. Trump is restructuring the world order underneath the American flag. Let me read screw through this. I'm going to go pretty quickly, but it's a brilliant thread that breaks it down in great detail. He says:3 weeks ago I argued the US goal in Iran is to seize the global oil spigot, neutralize every supply channel outside the dollar system within 90 days, achieve a compliant successor government, complete energy dominance. The oil thesis was the obvious layer. However, when you zoom out and view the last four years as a single sequence rather than isolated geopolitical events, the architecture of the grander US plan becomes visible. I want to stress this extends to Trump's first term. I don't know what was going on through Biden's second first term, but it may include elements of the US government in the deep state. At the same time, they say the Ukraine conflict provided the justification for sanctions that collapsed Russian pipeline gas from 150 billion cubic meters to 40 Nord Stream was destroyed. The US went from supplying 28% of Europe's gas to 58% by 2025, exporting a record 111 million metric tons. Next is Syria. The fall of Assad severed the critical node connecting China's Belt and Road initiative in the Mediterranean. The trilateral railway linking Iran, Iraq and Syria, designed to bypass western maritime chokepoints, was completely destroyed. Third was Venezuela. In January, the US Effectively took control of the world's largest heavy crude reserves. The U.S. gulf coast has the most advanced refining complex on earth. The US captured a massive strategic reserve and solidified its position as the dominant exporter. Venezuela and Iran were the two major oil supply channels that existed outside the dollar system. Fourth is Iran and the Middle east energy shock. Israel struck Iran's South Pars gas field, the world's largest natural gas reservoir. Iran retaliated by striking Qatar's Ras Lafan, the single largest LNG facility on Earth. Qatar Energy's own assessment is that 17% of export capacity is gone and recovery will take five years. The Strait of Hormuz is closed. European gas prices spiked 70%. Asian spot prices doubled. The only remaining scaled supplier is the United States. If Iran falls and a successor government is installed, the US controls or influences roughly 40 to 45 million barrels per day of the global 103 million. I'm sorry, out of 103 million putting it effectively under U. S control. OPEC becomes irrelevant. The war is solidifying the petrodollar system as it evolves into a hybrid petro natural gas dollar. The market confirms this. Gold dropped around 20% from January. Bitcoin down 20%. Brent above 100 European and Asian institutions are liquidating metals and crypto to buy dollars because they need dollars to buy the only remaining scaled energy supply. The U. S Grand strategy goes deeper. AI is a physical industry. It runs on power. By choking the Strait of Hormuz and crippling Middle Eastern LNG and helium production, the US is degrading China's ability to power its data centers. The US is energy self sufficient. On the other hand, China is import dependent and every jewel it imports effectively now transits choke points the U. S. Navy controls. There's a lot more to this. Yeah, but it breaks it down rather perfectly. The US is seizing all control for AI development, natural gas and resources. And based on this, and I agree, the shuttering of the Strait of Hormuz is an intentional play that benefits the United States system. The Gulf States struggling to export this product. Now people are going to rely on US exports and we control Venezuela. In, in this interim period, we have come to take center stage the top point in the petrodollar system. Once everything resolves and Iran is in the western fold, Should Trump win, China and Russia will be under the boot of the US Hegemon.
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Stella Escobedo
Control the energy, control the system. Did you see General Michael Flynn posted? He goes, sounds like everything is going according to plan.
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Tim Pool
Yep.
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Stella Escobedo
And you know Khomeini, he was supposed to go to Venezuela. Venezuela out.
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Tim Pool
And now Cuba is falling into western influence, Venezuela into. This is nuts.
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Stella Escobedo
I mean Trump is toppling to after this.
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Tim Pool
Who is Cuba? Oh, absolutely, yeah.
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Stella Escobedo
Right.
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Tim Pool
Cuba's got no power left. There's no energy coming in. That's right. The US is out of power. Right. So they're embargoed. And then Trump said we'll sanction anybody who tries to give them oil.
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Phil That Remains
So.
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Tim Pool
And now there's, there's no electricity.
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Phil That Remains
There's one more thing that's worth noting that isn't mentioned here. There's this place in North Carolina called Spruce Pine. It's a tiny town in the, in Blue Ridge.
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Tim Pool
Right.
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Phil That Remains
Population is like 2000. And it's completely irreplaceable to the entire global semiconductor industry. It's the only place in the world that can get 99.999% pure SIL. Obviously chips are made of silicone and they provide all of the silicone that goes to tsmc, all the silicone that goes to Taiwan to make the most advanced chips. Now we're building a bunch of chip manufacturers here. Obviously they're not online yet, but if the US controls that as well, that really does.
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Stella Escobedo
You forgot Ukraine too.
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Phil That Remains
Yeah, yeah.
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Tim Pool
Oh, arable land for one thing. But, but part of this report I did skip over is that in Ukraine Ukrainians are sabotaging Russian energy, transportation.
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Ian Crossland
Uh huh.
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Tim Pool
So this is curtailing Russia's ability to. This is what we talked about. We've talked about how the Burisma scandal was because Russia was importing natural gas into Europe, controlling 20% of European gas. The US wanted that to stop. A Ukrainian is, is was indicted by Germany for bombing Nord Stream 2. This is Western power, guys. I'm going to tell you this. Hook this hopium right up into your veins. If this plays out the way it appears on the grand stage, I think we're looking at like a 1950s 60s economic boom.
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Stella Escobedo
Like the baby boomers, I'm here for it. And as I sit here, I look at that sign right there and it says make America great again. And Trump has a plan.
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Ian Crossland
The desperation of the necessity of an invention. Like if the Chinese, you know, technocrats find out. Look, we can't compete with oil and methane anymore. Natural gas is methane. We need to pivot to fusion. We need to.
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Tim Pool
We have it. We have the fusion. Bro, haven't you been paying attention?
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Ian Crossland
We are controlling the oil markets. I understand the oil and gas markets are under control. And that's a great energy market, it's a great fuel market, but it's not the only one.
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Tim Pool
We will never allow anyone to create an energy source outside of what we control.
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Ian Crossland
Right, but you can't, you don't have control over allowance of all things.
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Tim Pool
The United States can blow up anybody they want.
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Ian Crossland
I'm not denying that.
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Tim Pool
Right, that's my point. I'm not saying they should. I'm saying they have heart attack guns, they have discombobulators. They will. Ian, if you put together a fusion reactor and figured out a means of converting the fusion energy into electricity, they will discombobulate you.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah, and I wouldn't even tell them not to. If a human rogue and tries to
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Tim Pool
build it, you're like this, bobulate me, it's a threat.
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Ian Crossland
If a dumb monkey gets a fusion reactor could blow us all up. Like, I'm open to stopping that.
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Tim Pool
You know what I think they would do if Ian ever really got close to like discovering the secrets of graphene? They would dose you with such strong LSD you'd go schizoid.
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Ian Crossland
I gotta work with the government if I'm gonna go hard into tech. That's the only way at this point.
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Tim Pool
But does it Imagine this. Imagine like you had a chicken in your chicken coop that figured out how to open the doors. And like was, was programming, like was using a phone. You'd be like, I'm eating That chicken.
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Ian Crossland
I'm either hiring that chicken.
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Tim Pool
I mean, to be honest. No, to be honest, if your chicken was using a phone, you'd be like, I'm calling a scientist right now, giving
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Ian Crossland
that chicken a TV show.
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Tim Pool
Yeah, but if you were the U.S. government, you're seizing that chicken and removing it. And you're studying it.
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Ian Crossland
And there's a lot going on in the world the US government doesn't know about. And I don't know how. How much spy.
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Tim Pool
I know everything.
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Ian Crossland
What?
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Tim Pool
They know everything.
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Ian Crossland
That's what they want you. And that's what they want.
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Tim Pool
They know. They know when you poop.
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Ian Crossland
Spy tech.
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Tim Pool
But then you know that the government knows when you're three.
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Ian Crossland
What is. Is World War Three, just like we told you that.
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Tim Pool
No, this is actually a 10 year
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Stella Escobedo
old, like where every single person. When every single person is pooping.
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Tim Pool
You got a cell phone.
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Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Huh.
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Stella Escobedo
Okay, so they're tracking me.
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Tim Pool
So here's what. So Facebook got this data a long time ago and has the algorithm for the algorithm. The story was super old. It was, it was a story. It was like Business Insider or something. So Facebook has collected enough location data that they now have mapped a billion users, a billion human beings, daily patterns. So they now have a prediction for how long after a meal will a person use the bathroom. They know how, like if a person goes to work, how long until they go to the bathroom. So the movement of your phone, they can predict where you're going to get lunch. They can predict where you will go to the bathroom. They can predict if you're going to get sick, if you're going to go home early. The famous story, of course, is that a man called, I think it was Target or something, complaining that they had sent his 16 maternity advertisements. Signal Daughter was getting maternity advertisements and he said, how dare you send my teenage daughter maternity advertisements? She is. She is a child. And they said, sir, these are automated advertisements. When our system detects an individual is pregnant, it will automatically send these ads. So she had been searching things like feeling sick and, you know, restless or back pain. And the algorithm said she's pregnant, send her the advertisements. And she was insane.
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Stella Escobedo
I didn't hear about that story.
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Tim Pool
Okay, that's like 10 years ago.
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Stella Escobedo
Yeah, well, then they. Now they've probably up their. Their game. They know exactly what we're doing.
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Tim Pool
Of course.
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Stella Escobedo
Wonder when you say something and then it pops up on your phone.
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Tim Pool
I mean, and that's. People think like satellites, like anything.
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Stella Escobedo
Yeah, they already know thinking.
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Tim Pool
People think your microphone is on it's, it's listening to you. And those people are correct. Phones have voice activation. You've ever used yours?
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Stella Escobedo
Yes. Like Siri?
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Tim Pool
Yeah. So when you can just talk to it, you can say, yeah, he's here and it'll turn on. Right. So that means the microphone has to be on all the time so that if you say that phrase, it will activate your phone.
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Phil That Remains
Right?
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Tim Pool
Right. What translate your. Translates your speech into text. A server over the Internet. So what your devices do, they're listening to 24 7, sending everything you say to a server to transcribe your speech into text and send the text back to your phone. There was a very famous story where police subpoenaed, I think it was the Amazon device because there was a murder and they wanted the audio and they got the audio and they were like, how? And they were like, oh, it was recording for some reason. Because how else would it know you're activating it unless it was listening all the time?
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Ian Crossland
I don't know if they're able to get off that grid. If the Chinese. So just, I want to just finish talking about China in this instance. That either they're going to either be like, look, we can't compete with oil and gas. We need to go to a new fusion source, maybe a hydrogen fuel system or something. But. And then the other thing is the oil off the east coast of Vietnam, which I still believe the Vietnam War was about oil. They said we have to stop communism, but they wanted that territory so they could pump, which the Trans Pacific Partnership was all about pumping Malaysian oil. Chinese might try and take that from the Japanese overseer, but we kind of got that unlock the physical lock in the. In the Pacific too. You know, Japan, we turned that in the 60s, in the 50s. But the other fuel sources, like that's the one thing you can't really account for. And like is Iran the next. The final nail in the coffin. They'll always tell you that it is, that the next step is the final step. But the.
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Phil That Remains
But the.
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Tim Pool
No.
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Phil That Remains
One's, the administration isn't telling you this, right? So this isn't some kind of like prep.
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Phil That Remains
Best release from the from the Trump administration. This is a bunch of people looking at the global picture and saying, look, this is what makes sense to us. So it's not a situation where this is a narrative coming out of the administration saying, this is why we're doing it. This is what the goal is, et cetera, et cetera. It's people looking at what the Trump administration has done and what they're do, what it looks like they're doing in the future and, and basically deducing what's going on.
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Ian Crossland
Let me like slaying the final villain in a movie, but that's just what people are kind of brainwashed to think
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Tim Pool
like, because that's not what the world is reality. Ian.
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Phil That Remains
Yeah, it's not about slaying the final villain. This is, it's about positioning the United States in a strong position globally.
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Tim Pool
Right.
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Phil That Remains
Like, it's not about trying to, it's really this simple.
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Tim Pool
Do you want to, do you want to be, do you want to be the Capitol or do you want to be District 7?
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Ian Crossland
I want to be the Capitol.
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Tim Pool
There you go. Let me play this clip. We've got the story from Fox News, ladies and gentlemen. Iran is threatening World War 3, but let's see what's going on with Operation Epic Fury. And I think the funniest thing about this, people are now wagering that Donald Trump will personally visit Iran before next year. I kid you not. Wait till you see this. But first, here's what's happening in Iran
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Stella Escobedo
Central Command and the intensifying situation in the Middle East. Operation Epic Fury presses on with US Forces continuing to hammer key Iranian regime targets. President Trump posting this morning that Iran is, quote, begging to make a deal. Matt Finn is live in Dubai with more. Hi, Matt
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Ian Crossland
and Dana taking a full look at that Truth Post. President Trump writes the Iranian negotiators are very different and, quote, strange. They are begging us to make a deal, which they should be doing since they have been military obliterated with zero chance of a comeback. And yet they publicly state they are only looking at our proposal wrong. They better get serious soon before it is too late. Because once that happens, there is no turning back. And it won't be pretty. President Donald J. Trump now here in Dubai. It's been a pretty active day. A lot of incoming fire. The UAE says 15 ballistic missiles, 11 drones fired at this country today. Our cell phones have been going off with the shelter in place alerts. We've heard some explosions in the sky. The UAE says two people died in Abu Dhabi, not far from here. The UAE writing the UAE's air defenses are currently dealing with missile attacks and incoming drones from Iran. And the Ministry of Defense confirms that the sounds heard in various parts of the country are the result of air defense systems intercepting ballistic missile missiles and fighter jets intercepting drones and loitering munition.
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Phil That Remains
And our.
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Tim Pool
That's. Oh, yeah, reports from Israel that the
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Ian Crossland
head of the IRGC's navy was killed in an Israeli strike over.
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Tim Pool
We've got that. And then we've got epic Fury striking over 10,000 targets. And the IRGC naval leadership eliminated. Iran is threatening 1 million soldiers are ready to fight the United States. Okay, but here's where it gets good. Over on our Calci Prediction market, there is a 12% chance that Donald Trump will visit Iran before 2027. But wait, people are actually wagering a 4% chance for that before June. I'm sorry, that sounds like free money to me. I am not advising you to do anything. I'm just saying there is no way Donald Trump is personally going to Iran before June.
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Stella Escobedo
Not before June, but I have to tell you, the Islamic next year, maybe next year, but the Islamic regime is a death cult. Okay? Here's the other thing is they don't want to deal. They talk about like, oh, we're going to have a deal, we're going to make a deal. They don't want a deal. But the scary part is if they actually make a deal, because they always play the long game, okay? These people have a cal that, you know, their mission is a caliphate, spread their caliphate. The scary part that people worry about is will they agree to a deal and then just tear it up in three years?
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Tim Pool
You know, a lot. I asked for a ceasefire.
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Ian Crossland
And during the ceasefire, they'll build up their military and then they'll attack you again. When the ceasefire is, I'm going to,
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Tim Pool
I'm going to tell you guys. You know what's really bothering me? And I know Phil's going to chime in, he's going to agree with me on this one. I am not a fan of military interventions regime. It's extremely expensive. It's bad, it's bad in the short term for our economy. We need to win if you want anything good for our economy. But for the love of all that is holy, the people that are effectively rooting for our defeat is the most infuriating thing imaginable.
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Ian Crossland
I'm concerned about the Iranian civilians and at some point like I don't wanna tell American government, stop, don't. Cuz it's like I don't really know what's going on and maybe this could preserve human race in a really, really beneficial way. But the civilians of Iran, man, that's the most important resource in the world is that we preserve those people.
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Phil That Remains
There's no military in the world that puts more effort into not killing civilians. And if you look at the videos coming out of Iran, people are still going about their day nor because the United States is not targeting the population very. That's not, this is, this is, this is, this is not saying, this is not to say that there, there isn't going to be collateral damage.
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Tim Pool
Iran is intentionally striking civilians right now. I mean think about it this way. Iran has attacked US military targets in the region for decades. They have been arming the Houthi rebels as well as Hamas and Hezbollah. They have been literally killing civilians. They, the Houthis were bombing civilian cargo ships in the Red Sea and the US and don't get me started on Venezuela. They steal our oil assets and the US is just like now, now slow down there. And they have been reserved the whole time. Donald Trump finally says okay fine, Israel says we're moving in. Puts pressure on the United States to make a move. Now I don't respect that, but it is what happened. And the US says we have legitimate grievances and we're putting a stop to this. So what is Iran's response? We're going to kill civilians. Non combats. They're targeting the cities, they're targeting people's homes intentionally and then complaining about collateral damage in Iran. Look, collateral damage is bad. We don't want civilians to die. If it is true, the US launched a Tomahawk which blew up a school and killed a bunch of little girls. Horrifying. But the US is not trying to do that. The US gets to a point where it says stop bombing us, stop bombing our friends, stop killing people in the region. And they don't and remember us says, here comes the big stick. And again, their response is, then we'll kill everyone.
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Stella Escobedo
Yeah, well, you saw the funerals right after America and Israel took out all their leaders. They had massive funerals. Did America go and bomb those massive funerals and individuals who came out? No, no, that was an opportunity, but that's not. That's not what America does. But what are they doing? They're consistently launching rockets into Israel on a daily basis. They're missiles. They're, you know, attacking other Arab nations.
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Tim Pool
Hey, look, look, I will say this. Between Israel and Iran, I don't. I think Israel. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I think Iran has stronger capabilities than they've let on for a long time. I do not. Yes, they fired rockets at Diego Garcia, which is our air base in the. I believe it's in the Indian Ocean. And this shocked the world because they were like, Iran has been claiming they don't have this capability. And I don't think it's surprising all to find that they actually do.
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Stella Escobedo
Did you see Piers Morgan? He tweeted what is. And he was like, oh, well, maybe we were wrong. Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Yeah, right. Well, I'll say this. Iran striking Israel, that's war. Israel is striking Iran. Iran is striking Israel. Israel is targeting military. Iran is targeting whatever they can target, which includes civilian targets. So that's wrong. But for what reason is Iran bombing Dubai? You know, civilian targets. Two people just died.
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Stella Escobedo
You know why they're doing that? Because they were. Well, yeah, not only terror, but they want to encourage the United States to take a step back. It's like, these are our allies. Okay, we'll stop.
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Tim Pool
It's the equivalent of Ian and I get into a fight. So then I threaten your family, and you're like, my family has nothing to do with this. And I'll say they do now, because I'll do whatever it takes to win war. That's terrorism. Of course. That's the.
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Ian Crossland
What the underdog does in war.
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Tim Pool
Yep. And so Iran has decided, and this is part of their doctrine. If you go to war with us, we know we can't win, so we will massacre your children on our way out.
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Stella Escobedo
That kind of mentality, they're in desperation mode. But I do. Going back. Yeah, exactly. Imagine if they had a nuke. Will Donald Trump visit Iran? Not by June. Maybe next year. You think there's going to be a regime change? Who thinks Reza Pahlavi is going to change?
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Tim Pool
I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so you might think they're.
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Ian Crossland
I thought he'd be like the Gandhi of, of Persia. He'll come. He'll give people hope. He'll help.
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Stella Escobedo
Here's the thing.
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Tim Pool
He probably will come back.
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Stella Escobedo
But Reza has come back and said he has a plan. Yeah, okay. He has a plan. He doesn't want to stay, so he comes back.
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Tim Pool
Maybe he gets things just jumped to 16%. That's probably our as we're talking.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
So I'm sure people watching are going
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Ian Crossland
the Senate introduced a bill to make this illegal to bet on. Gamble on the war stuff.
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Tim Pool
Well, they've, they've, they've tried this. Prediction markets have been ruled legal.
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Ian Crossland
Reza could oversee a transition to an actual republic.
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Stella Escobedo
You know, he has a plan.
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Ian Crossland
Islamic theocracy said hey, everyone will call it the. It's a republic and we're going to govern you. But it wasn't a republic. They lied to their people for the people. They're not even there. Like what they, they mishandled that government. Reza could come in and really turn it into one of the strongest republics on the planet that is preserved against the technocratic order. If we do it right, it would,
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Stella Escobedo
it would benefit the United States. But I'll tell you something. In 1979, the minute the Ayatollahs took over, they showed America and the world exactly who they were. They held our Embassy Hostage for 440. They literally, I can't believe until Ronald
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Phil That Remains
Reagan got into literally.
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Stella Escobedo
They showed our, they showed the world who they were. Why.
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Ian Crossland
It was because the Shah fled to the United States and they wanted to try him because. For crimes. And the United States like he's getting cancer treatment in the US Then we're keeping your soldiers hostage till you give them back.
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Stella Escobedo
Right.
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Tim Pool
But my point is this is who
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Ian Crossland
they are died in the US So
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Stella Escobedo
then they let the hostage remember the Beirut bombing? They killed. The problem right now is you have a lot of young people who don't really understand who the Islamic regime are. They're not freedom fighters.
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Ian Crossland
They're not I think, I mean I'm not arguing with. No, I'm just, I think they're horror like I think religious.
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Stella Escobedo
You just have a lot of young people who don't understand the history zealous
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Ian Crossland
like religion before reality is deeply concerning to me.
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Stella Escobedo
They're extremists.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah. Like you got to put the book down and like look around at what's going on on the planet.
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Tim Pool
And I'm, I just want to stress this again because with the moves Trump is Making towards Iran. There are a lot of people that are on one side anti interventionist. But, guys, you may not like this. If Trump wins here and we reignite the petrol dollar and control global energy, Americans are going to live like fat cats.
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Stella Escobedo
I'm all for.
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Tim Pool
A lot of people might not. Might not like that. And I know I have a lot of friends that are like, it's not worth it. The clutter damage isn't worth it. I'm not disputing you or arguing morality. I am saying the end result of us controlling energy is that we will get a lot of stuff for very little.
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Stella Escobedo
I'm ready for Americans to be able to live and not have to work two jobs, three jobs. California. Listen, I live in California, okay? And a lot of people like, well, you get what you deserve. No, there's a lot of people in California, good people, who say, well, we want to stay in California, we want to fight, but the cost of living there, I mean, Nick Shirley just did an expose on what's happening. The fraud supersedes what happens with the Somalis, okay? They have. We have a homeless industrial complex. It is literally a business. They do not want the homelessness to go away. As a matter of fact, it's gotten worse, okay? It's a business. So all these NGOs, all these organizations, they need to stay in power so they continue to feed the monster. You go out in the streets of, of like, you know, Southern California, where used to be nice areas, you see zombies. It's scary. I have two children and they get scared. They're like, what is this? Like, they're zombies. They're hanging, you know, they're everywhere.
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Tim Pool
You know, I guess the question is, do you want to live in a world where we are under the boot of China?
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Stella Escobedo
No.
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Tim Pool
They're the ones doing. Instead of, instead of the, the, the liberal economic order or Trump's order, they have the Belt and Road initiative and we can't buy oil anymore. And then people lose their job. This is.
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Stella Escobedo
I mean, we see what's been happening. The drugs are coming out of China,
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Ian Crossland
the fentanyl making the zombies. You're talking about a lot.
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Stella Escobedo
Literally, they came out of China through Mexico, via Mexico.
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Ian Crossland
This feels like the second Cold War. And that we're ending it now with the Iran, like the Iranians.
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Stella Escobedo
I like that.
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Ian Crossland
And the Americans have been in a Cold war since the revolution. Yeah, the revolution. They still say they're still in a revolution since 79. And when we ended the first Cold War, we had an opportunity to reshape the world in a good way. You say we live like fat cats. We can bring that tech to the planet. We should have done it in the 90s and early 2000s. We didn't have the Internet to coordinate. Now we can. So the US Is going to end this cold war and has opportunity to really raise a standard of living for the human race. Yeah.
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Phil That Remains
Well, I mean, the US and markets have been doing that for the better part of the past 60 years. You know, like, I think the number of people that have lived that live in abject poverty, which is like less than a dollar a day, has cratered to like, like maybe like 500 million or something like that out of all of the 8 billion people that live on the Earth.
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Stella Escobedo
So the Somali story. Sorry. I'm just gonna say one thing. The fact that they were sending our money.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah.
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Stella Escobedo
To Al Shabaab.
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Tim Pool
Yeah. Yeah.
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Stella Escobedo
I mean, it makes my blood boil. That's our. I want. As a matter of fact, I want my money back.
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Tim Pool
Yeah. There are. There are two principal factions, it would seem. The Trump faction is very. They're fine with Donald Trump securing energy and the US Control of it. There's another faction that says it's time to share power with the rest of the world. And Tucker Carlson made that quote. That includes China. I'm not interested in sharing power in China.
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Stella Escobedo
No. No. And I'm not interested in hearing what Tucker Carlson has.
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Tim Pool
I'm not saying I'm a fan of
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Stella Escobedo
the war or anything. I believe you. I just. He's lost his mind. I don't know what happened to him. I. He basically, whoever his bosses are, didn't get their ROI because he's so pissed about what's happening in Iran. Same with Candace Owens.
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Ian Crossland
Well, let's.
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Tim Pool
Let's pull this up and talk about it. We've got this post from Officer Lou. He says, wow. Candace Owens launches a surprising attack on citizen journalist Nick Shirley. I'll first correct that and say Nick Shirley is not a citizen journalist. He is just a regular journalist. Citizen journalist means you're out walking your dog one day and you film a car crash and then go back to walking your dog. It was you. Bubba Wallace here from 2311 Racing.
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- [51:23]
Tim Pool
Used by the corporate press as a pejorative against people like Nick Shirley. In her latest episode, she dismisses his hard hitting investigative reporting a stupid, dumb and completely made up. This is the weirdest thing. Let me play the clip for you first and then explain. Look, I'm gonna say it outright. I think Candace is an op this it and I'll explain why. But first listen to this happen to find myself on top of Brazil's largest favela in a destroyed house interviewing gang members of one of the largest gangs in Brazil.
- [51:52]
Stella Escobedo
Okay, I'm just gonna say I don't believe that at all. I'm sorry, I just, I. I just. It's so stupid. I'm not even gonna tell you why I don't believe. It's like. It's like if you don't know that that's stupid that he infiltrated the gang in 48 hours. Like it's just. That's so dumb. I'm so tired of dumb. That's not how that works, okay? You don't just go up to gangs on the street as a nice looking white boy with the camera and say hey, I just wanted to sort of like see what you're doing here. What's going on. Okay, that's just. Stop. That's stupid. Of course that's dumb. I'm sorry, Nick. I know you're young. I hope you know whoever is your contact that has you infiltrating Antifa and infiltrating El Salvador at the age of 23 years old. It just feels like Sean Penn young to me. Like, oh, Sean Penn's always there.
- [52:32]
Tim Pool
I've been defined. She goes on days. I was always there and no one cares. She goes on this attack implying that Nick Shirley is faking his videos. Now here's the thing. This reporting from Brazil is around eight months old. She went back and found a segment that Nick Shirley did unrelated US Politics, I believe, intentionally to discredit Nick Shirley. And now I'm seeing a bunch of tweets responding, saying, Nick Shirley's a liar.
- [52:57]
Stella Escobedo
Wow.
- [52:58]
Tim Pool
They're saying, this is. Candace is right. There's no way. Why would she do this? As honest question. Nick Shirley is currently working on Medicaid fraud stories in California, and they're massive. Who's opposing it? The Democrats. Gavin Newsom is making fun of him. Now Candace Owens is digging up old stories, not even big stories from eight months ago. It had 64,000 views. To insinuate Nick Shirley is fabricating or a plant. Let me just say real quick, I have covered the favelas in Brazil three times, and I'm going to tell you exactly how I interviewed the gang members. I walked up as a little nice white boy to the gang members and said, can we interview you? The truth, the real story is my producer and I went to a favela. We had a fixer. This is a local who speaks Portuguese. We went to a restaurant and got food. We asked the one who worked there, hey, we're journalists from America. We work for Vice. We wanted to interview some of the gangs about what's going on. And she said, give me a second. She comes back, she gives information to our fixer and says, meet this guy later today. He'll be up, you know, at this area. We wait till it gets dark. We go to meet him. It's like 8 o' clock or whatever. And there's a guy sitting in a plastic chair. We walk up, everybody shakes his hand. It's a gang member, one of the gang leaders, a regular guy just sitting in a chair. And our Portuguese, our Brazilian friend speaks Portuguese. And the guy says, yeah, okay. And then we say, what happened? He goes, tomorrow at 1 o', clock, we're going to come here and we're going to meet a young gang member. He's going to put on a mask and we're going to interview him. He's a tell us. And that's going on. It was that simple.
- [54:24]
Stella Escobedo
I believe it. I spent many years in media. You could do that, like, anywhere.
- [54:27]
Tim Pool
It's what you do.
- [54:28]
Stella Escobedo
It's literally what you do. Candace knows Nose. She always knows. Knows. By the way, Nick Shirley's part one out of California. I know the woman, Amy Reichard, okay? She's out of San Diego and she's been doing this research. By the way, Nick Shirley goes. And he actually follows these people who've been doing this research. That's why you probably don't want to. Citizen journalists. Yeah, exactly. So I can confirm that what he is reporting is exact a fact because. Because Amy has been reporting this in California.
- [54:55]
Tim Pool
I have to stress this point on citizen journalism and why it's important to me. In the early 2010s, with the ubiquity of cell phones emerging, we started to get a bunch of videos from regular people who would film a news event and then never film another news event again. A guy would be working at a hot dog shop, he would film. He'd be filming outside. A fight breaking out, and then a shooting happens, and then he posts it online, and a local news outlet says, can we have this footage? That is citizen journalism. It's when otherwise non journalists capture a newsworthy event and it's not their intention. I started filming Occupy Wall street as well as many others, and the media insulted us by saying, this is not real journalism. This is citizen journalism, with the intent of saying we are random people who accidentally caught newsworthy information. Yep. So even though I had been working at this for a year, I was being invited around places they would still go. We don't. There was an event where I was not allowed on the main stage, and they were smack talking me from. I was. I was speaking on a side stage about the future of media, and prominent journalists were on stage insulting me directly, saying, these are. This is not real journalism. He's not a journalist. He's not producing journalism. He was a guy who was standing somewhere and filmed a thing, and now you guys are calling it journalism. And I said, these people are scumbags.
- [56:07]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, you are a threat.
- [56:07]
Tim Pool
Now, I don't think Officer Liu's point is to. To disparage Nick Shirley, but I want to stress this. The word citizen journalism is used by the corporate press to. To say that Nick Shirley is not doing real work and he's untrustworthy. Nick Shirley is a journalist. Period. Now, again, I'll say this. I think Candace is an op. Why? This is calculated. You do not accidentally go through Nick Shirley's footage and try and find something to discredit that could then call into question his current reporting. That is a manipulation strategy that is a bit more advanced. Meaning if you go to someone and say, how do we make people distrust Nick Shirley? The left has insulted him, and they just call him a white supremacist, He's a racist, but people on the right love him. How do we discredit him? Okay, well, we can't go to The Somali stuff, Trump's price that we can't go to, the Medicaid stuff, people believe it and Newsom's against it. We need to go and find something else he's done that people cannot relate to and can't prove that we can question. So if you were trying to intentionally discredit somebody, you would go into their work and find something like this Brazil, right, Where the average person doesn't know how it works and then say, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. You don't walk up to gang members and just do this. And the people who trust Candace are going to go, yeah, that is dumb. But there's no way for them to connect those dots to anything in their
- [57:26]
Stella Escobedo
lives unless you understand the journalism. Let me. Let me ask you this as an op. Who is control? Like, who's giving her the.
- [57:32]
Tim Pool
She's married to a British lord and her lawyers work in a building with federal agents. So the people who believe Candace Owens. I'll say it again. Tell me why her lawyers work in a building with federal agents. Honest question. I'm just curious.
- [57:42]
Stella Escobedo
We're just asking questions.
- [57:43]
Tim Pool
Nobody's answered it. They just. The response given is, it's a coincidence. And I'm like, oh, that's a coincidence. She's the one who revealed the address, too. And then it went viral, because people remember that.
- [57:53]
Stella Escobedo
I don't.
- [57:53]
Tim Pool
Yeah, they were like, she claimed that these government agents were going to these buildings, and she showed the documents that proves it. And then the left came out and said, that's her lawyer's office. And we were like, what the. And we corroborated it. It's true.
- [58:05]
Stella Escobedo
Has Nick Shirley responded to this, by the way?
- [58:07]
Tim Pool
I think they did, and she backed off. But either way, what is the point of going on your show and telling her largely female audience that Nick Shirley is a liar?
- [58:16]
Phil That Remains
I think that it's just looking for drama.
- [58:18]
Tim Pool
I mean, no, I think she could fight drama anywhere.
- [58:21]
Stella Escobedo
She.
- [58:21]
Tim Pool
She has the drama. She put my face on a thumbnail, implying I was involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk. So she wants drama. She can easily get it. This is discrediting Nick Shirley, who's not engaging otherwise in political debate. Nick Shirley is not doing political shows where he says Democrats should lose. He's just going and filming things that
- [58:39]
Stella Escobedo
are happening and really talking about issues that matter to Americans. By the way, this was old, like you just said. Now, is she done with Erica Kirk?
- [58:46]
Tim Pool
No, I don't think so.
- [58:48]
Stella Escobedo
Oh, she hasn't.
- [58:48]
Tim Pool
I mean, I don't know, I'm just saying Nick Shirley is not a culture. It's not culture war relevant unless you're anti Trump, anti populist. And so she's been going hard against Trump. She. She is in the faction that wants to share power with China.
- [59:05]
Ian Crossland
I would love to know more. I don't want to assume hurt her intention, because I can't. I would think, like, there's emergent AI bots that are commenting on all of our.
- [59:14]
Tim Pool
Let me ask you a question. Why did she go through Nick Shirley's video going back eight months to find the story?
- [59:19]
Ian Crossland
She's been like, you know what? One day she. She got hit by inspiration. She was like, I wonder what. I got to look into this Nick Shirley.
- [59:24]
Stella Escobedo
She got hit by an inspiration. No way.
- [59:26]
Tim Pool
Yeah. It came in serendipity.
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Ian Crossland
She was like, I got to look into this guy. This is how Candace thinks. I know you, Candace. I know you think she's like, I got to look into this guy. So she pulls up, like, all his stuff, and she's like, oh, this is interesting. And looks at it. She's like, it's not perfect. I'm going to criticize it. People need to know it's not perfect.
- [59:39]
Tim Pool
She called him a liar. She said he fabricated the story.
- [59:42]
Stella Escobedo
That's not how she works. That's not how her brain.
- [59:43]
Tim Pool
She said he faked that news.
- [59:45]
Stella Escobedo
Yep.
- [59:45]
Tim Pool
That's not inspiration. That's accusing Nick Shirley of being fake news, of being a plant.
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Ian Crossland
Well, that's after the fact. Like how.
- [59:51]
Tim Pool
What she does on her show. She said that's not how it works. You didn't do this. I don't believe it for a second.
- [59:55]
Ian Crossland
I was in the bathroom when you ran the clip. So I saw the end of the clip. I just think. I was just talking about why she
- [60:00]
Tim Pool
said she did it. This is dumb. It's so dumb. I'm so tired of stupid. This is not how it works. You do not walk up to gangs as a nice little white boy and get these interviews and infiltrate these gangs.
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Phil That Remains
It's insane.
- [60:10]
Tim Pool
She said he's like Sean Penn who just shows up and the cartels just leave him alone.
- [60:13]
Stella Escobedo
She's a total narcissist, too, you guys. We can't ignore that fact.
- [60:16]
Ian Crossland
Since Charlie died. I know, Candace. Candace has been on the show. I know you directly, Candace. It seems like since Charlie was murdered that you went into madness. And what I mean by that is, I know it's a silly child's word, but what that means is that there's pain and Confusion together. You don't know why you're in pain. That was a terrifying. Like Charlie getting murdered was like, there must be a bigger reason because they want out of the madness.
- [60:37]
Tim Pool
I hear that they want there to be a reason. My first reaction after Charlie was killed was to think, what can I do to destroy his legacy? And then worked as hard as I could to fracture the coalition that got Trump elected. Accused prominent young up and coming journalists who are exposing corruption. I called them fake news and I attacked the widow. That's sure you're hurt because of Charlie's death, right? Trust me.
- [60:57]
Ian Crossland
There's that phrase, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
- [61:00]
Tim Pool
Oh yeah, like good intentions of targeting an up and coming journalist and accusing him of being a fabricating news. Yeah, that's good.
- [61:05]
Stella Escobedo
She doesn't like to be outshined by the.
- [61:06]
Ian Crossland
It does seem like an Alinsky tactic from Rules for Radicals to accuse him.
- [61:11]
Tim Pool
Something that you are doing.
- [61:12]
Ian Crossland
Indeed is doing. Yeah.
- [61:14]
Tim Pool
Listen, Ian, think whatever you want, but there is literally no explanation as to why Nick Shirley, who has not attacked her, has not commented on the Erica Kirk stuff. He literally just goes down and interviews people. What is the purpose of attacking a person who does that? For the Democrats, it's because he's exposing corruption. But for Candace Owens, what does it serve?
- [61:35]
Ian Crossland
Well, money, views, relevance.
- [61:38]
Tim Pool
Sure.
- [61:38]
Ian Crossland
Talking about that right now.
- [61:40]
Tim Pool
Okay, so if your argument is that she's intentionally trying to destroy one of the best up and coming journalists we have to make money, I think. Is that what you think she's doing?
- [61:47]
Ian Crossland
I don't think she's like, I would agree with that guy. I think she says if there's malfeasance here, I'm going to magnify it and so people can see it. And then she thinks it's malfeasance.
- [61:55]
Stella Escobedo
Well, I think it's narcissism.
- [61:56]
Tim Pool
What Malfeas.
- [61:57]
Ian Crossland
But it's that he's faking this. She thinks he's faking.
- [61:59]
Tim Pool
So she made up that he faked it. Yeah. That's money problem.
- [62:02]
Ian Crossland
That's a big problem.
- [62:02]
Tim Pool
Money. I'm not.
- [62:04]
Ian Crossland
What about it?
- [62:04]
Tim Pool
For money?
- [62:05]
Ian Crossland
For like fame, relevance, power. Yeah. Why do we make videos at all? What's. I would call that I want to tell the world.
- [62:09]
Stella Escobedo
She doesn't like to be outshined. Yeah, that's a good point. Who's left of her viewers, her followers? Because every.
- [62:14]
Tim Pool
A lot of people.
- [62:15]
Stella Escobedo
But every time you look at the comments, it's like I've lost so much respect, I'm out. I'M out. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, especially with this one.
- [62:22]
Tim Pool
It's the Maha women. It's suburban Maha women.
- [62:24]
Stella Escobedo
Yes.
- [62:24]
Tim Pool
But I believe that I had so
- [62:27]
Stella Escobedo
much respect for them.
- [62:28]
Tim Pool
This is why I don't believe it's organic. Because Trump got pushed over the edge by Maha suburban women. These were moderate women who didn't like Donald Trump and wouldn't vote for him. RFK Jr comes in and they do. Candace captures that female audience with her Stanley mug in front of her thing. It's a heavily female coded audience. And then she starts attacking the successful elements of the right. Turning Point USA did voter drives that helped Donald Trump get elected. Charlie dies. And she immediately accuses Turning Point of being in on it. Fracturing Turning Point and damaging their ability to continue helping the right populist movement. Listen, I'm sorry. There is zero reality where any person of legitimate reason or mind attacks Nick. Shirley. I'm sorry. Well, Erica Kirk.
- [63:11]
Stella Escobedo
We can just start with Erica Kirk. Why? Why would she attack a woman?
- [63:15]
Tim Pool
She wore leather pants.
- [63:16]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah. Yes.
- [63:17]
Tim Pool
I'm not kidding. She wore leather pants.
- [63:18]
Ian Crossland
If it were in private and she brought it up, I'd be like, you think so?
- [63:21]
Tim Pool
Why?
- [63:21]
Ian Crossland
And then I would talk to amplify it on tv. Like, that's an. You might think it's. It's just a thing in real life. But it is a big deal to put your thoughts on tv. It is a huge fucking deal. How that changes the way you.
- [63:33]
Stella Escobedo
And then she had a meeting with Erica Kirk too. And then even as an arbitration. Yeah. And even after that, she tripled down.
- [63:40]
Tim Pool
I think the end result of what Candace is doing is going to be the end of section 230. I believe it's a component of this. The powers that be want to end independent media shows, shows like this. They don't want to exist. We've been suppressed and censored a million and one times. Our biggest episode was deleted for three years and I had to fight to get it back. They. The first time with Alex Jones on they. They told me I was allowed to and then deleted it right afterwards. So we did another one. Yeah. On YouTube. So imagine what happens when you have 50,000 videos attacking Erica Kirk in the most deranged of ways, to the point where when you go on threads, you've got women saying Erica Kirk will get what's coming to her. Mark my words. I'm not kidding. It's an actual post.
- [64:20]
Phil That Remains
So insane.
- [64:21]
Tim Pool
What happens when something actually happens to Erica or her kids? Charlie's kids.
- [64:25]
Stella Escobedo
They're going to blame the Internet.
- [64:27]
Tim Pool
You're going to get congressional hearings and they're going to bring YouTube in and say why did you allow this? And they're going to say, because we got attacked for political censorship for years, so we backed off. Now you're asking us to bring it back and they're going to say, well, you're allowing mass defamation and now you are liable. YouTube lost a lawsuit just the other day stating that there's precedent now that YouTube is responsible for what they're promoting. So the argument is going to be no one's asking you to silence these people. We're saying why are you promoting Candace Owens to new users when you know that she said Bridget McCrone has a penis or that Erica Kirk did this, that or otherwise. And YouTube's going to say then we'll stop doing it all of a sudden. Then the algorithm changes and the only YouTube channels you get are the ones that YouTube signs exclusive contracts with. You'll still be allowed to upload to YouTube.
- [65:20]
Stella Escobedo
It just will be nothing.
- [65:21]
Tim Pool
You will never be suggested or recommended.
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Ian Crossland
That story. You're talking about the 9 year old who, whose parents sued YouTube and Facebook and won 3,6 million.
- [65:29]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, just happened the other day.
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Ian Crossland
I think personally that's a garbage case that'll get escalated and thrown out because firstly, it's some weird
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Tim Pool
And then secondly, New Mexico did it too.
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Ian Crossland
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- [66:47]
Tim Pool
That is a parent's fault. I agree. And so potentially they'll also ban under 18 from the Internet. Australia banned under 16 or parental supervision
- [66:55]
Ian Crossland
allowing their children on the Internet.
- [66:56]
Tim Pool
How do you make government ID is required. Like how do you make X rolled out region blocking. Do you guys see this?
- [67:02]
Stella Escobedo
Why do we need government IDs if we can't even. We don't even need them to vote.
- [67:06]
Tim Pool
Well, that's, it's, that's a whole other story. It's not going to be the liberals argument, it's going to be the right's argument.
- [67:10]
Stella Escobedo
But. So what you're saying is independent journalism is going to go away.
- [67:13]
Tim Pool
It will exist in some form, but it'll be the way it used to be in that you will produce a piece of media and then beg the big corporations to run it.
- [67:20]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [67:21]
Tim Pool
So then pirate radio.
- [67:22]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
Like mesh networking.
- [67:23]
Stella Escobedo
How long do you think it will take before that actually happens?
- [67:26]
Tim Pool
Well, I do think we're largely already in this space. Just the fact that you've got a handful of people who break YouTube's rules to great. To a great degree. And YouTube still promotes them shows editorial selection.
- [67:39]
Stella Escobedo
Candace.
- [67:40]
Tim Pool
Her among others. Right. I'm surprised because we've had videos taken down for much less and I've said
- [67:48]
Ian Crossland
stuff on my personal channel and beyond where your normal guy might get it taken down. But the way I said it, they're
- [67:54]
Stella Escobedo
like, oh, but Met is the worst. They've censored me for months at a time. They're the worst. And then you have no one to talk to because you're talking to.
- [68:00]
Ian Crossland
I typed about George Floyd being on like amphetamines and what his. The. I got blacklisted on Facebook.
- [68:08]
Stella Escobedo
TikTok to TikTok.
- [68:09]
Tim Pool
Yeah, well, TikTok's changing.
- [68:10]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
- [68:11]
Tim Pool
Because. Because it was bought by the Ellison.
- [68:14]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
- [68:14]
Tim Pool
So I can tell you for a fact that behind the scenes at TikTok, their editorial drive has flipped entirely realistically.
- [68:20]
Ian Crossland
You don't want a giant corporation controlling your media network anyway.
- [68:25]
Stella Escobedo
No, you don't. But they're so threatened by independent media that that's probably why they're doing this.
- [68:30]
Ian Crossland
Very likely.
- [68:31]
Stella Escobedo
Who's watching mainstream media?
- [68:33]
Tim Pool
Nobody.
- [68:34]
Stella Escobedo
Exactly.
- [68:34]
Tim Pool
But I'm telling you, I already know where this is going because I'm talking to these companies even right now. And the plan is they are. This is. It was described to me this way. In the future there are going to be three. Three big subscription services and the only thing people consume are going to be through these services. YouTube will probably be One of them. And you've got Peacock or cbs. And, you know, so it, it, it's going to consolidate.
- [68:56]
Ian Crossland
Consolidate, consolidate.
- [68:57]
Tim Pool
Right. So look at cbs. CBS buys Warner Brothers, they own cnn.
- [69:01]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
- [69:01]
Tim Pool
So that puts everything under the, the, the Paramount plus brand.
- [69:05]
Stella Escobedo
Right.
- [69:05]
Tim Pool
So you're going to have potentially Peacock. You're going to have three, three to five big networks. You're going to download the app, you're going to pay your subscription fee of, you know, 1099 or 1999 per month. And you're not going to watch YouTube anymore. So the way I, the way I liken it is it'll be called 1999.
- [69:22]
Ian Crossland
You'll just be able to do whatever.
- [69:23]
Tim Pool
No, you're going to have, you're going to be like, oh, turn on Netflix, turn on YouTube. 1999. Anybody could download any song they wanted. It destroyed the music industry. And then they wrapped it back up and created streaming services. Then you had Mega Upload. Did you guys see the Supreme Court ruling now on Mega Upload?
- [69:39]
Phil That Remains
No, no.
- [69:39]
Tim Pool
They explicitly. This is hilarious. Poor kim.com, that. I'll give you the quick gist that secondary copyright infringement from users is not the fault of the service platform, which is what they rated and shut down Mega Upload for. So in the 2000s, you get mega Upload. Now movies are free. So what do they do? They shut it down. And now you have Amazon. Now you have YouTube where political commentary and social discourse has been running like crazy for the past 10 years. They're gonna shut it down and they're gonna stick it back on the front page of their streaming services. Everything will be through the official mainstream channels. If you wanna listen to a song, how do you get it? Apple Music or Spotify?
- [70:16]
Stella Escobedo
Okay. If you wanna watch generation follow 100%. But I mean, they love their, like apps here and there. They love.
- [70:22]
Tim Pool
And when they go home, it's gonna be a TV screen where they're gonna have three apps. They're gonna be like, what's on Paramount? And they're gonna open up Paramount and they're gonna be like, oh, I love watching Real Time with ian Crossland.
- [70:32]
Stella Escobedo
Huh?
- [70:33]
Tim Pool
Ilmar 70 there will be, There'll be.
- [70:35]
Ian Crossland
That's for like pleb action.
- [70:36]
Tim Pool
There'll be hot pleb action and three
- [70:38]
Ian Crossland
big networks and then everyone else will have their code. Like, you'll be able to go into rumble systems, like free systems where you can interoperate and send each other crypto and Rumble.
- [70:46]
Tim Pool
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- [70:47]
Ian Crossland
We have Rumble Wallet. We even.
- [70:48]
Tim Pool
No, no, no, listen. Rumble already Largely has their front page. We're on the front page of Rumble right now as one of their premiere shows. We could do everything is going in this. In this direction.
- [70:57]
Ian Crossland
One of my companies is building decentralized software where you can upload your video to like a Rumble server and then everyone else that has that software can see your content. And it's kind of like its own network.
- [71:07]
Tim Pool
Ian understand you can technically build that into a browser. You can listen to any song you want right now on Apple or Spotify. Right. But when you open the app.
- [71:16]
Ian Crossland
Not rolling Orzabel stuff, unfortunately Tom streaming outside. I want to.
- [71:20]
Tim Pool
So when you open Apple and you the list you get of available. I go to my Tesla and I go to the music and it tells me what to listen to and when I play it. What am I going to get? Sabrina Carpenter, the Weeknd? You're not going to get Ian Crosland. You're not going to get all that remains. You might get all that remains if you pick a metal channel somewhere further down. That's true. Algorithm Thought fed me Tim Cast is available on the. If you go on Tesla, you can listen to Tim.
- [71:42]
Ian Crossland
You guys did.
- [71:43]
Tim Pool
If you go to Tesla and go to the music and type in Tim Cast. My songs are there, but they will never promote them.
- [71:49]
Ian Crossland
The algorithm is promoting it to me because it knows that I click on irl. So I get your music. Yeah.
- [71:55]
Tim Pool
And that's going to go away. It's going away.
- [71:58]
Ian Crossland
Well, if we get rid of an algorithm completely, you're saying everything is just time.
- [72:01]
Tim Pool
Because YouTube it's basically legally liable for what their algorithm does. They are going to say no more algorithm could have.
- [72:08]
Stella Escobedo
So they're not going to feed new viewers out there and make you grow. Right. Essentially your followers have to hear you.
- [72:16]
Tim Pool
You can upload your songs to Spotify. Is Spotify is never going to put it on rotation. And. And they say, what do you mean? You have your free speech, your song's right there. Just no one ever heard of you. It's not our fault.
- [72:25]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [72:25]
Tim Pool
And then you say hold on, hold on. That band.
- [72:27]
Ian Crossland
They would literally pick a video and
- [72:29]
Tim Pool
put it on that band you just signed. You signed a band and you put them in your rotation and they're gonna say, that's right, because it's ours. And that's what's going to happen. YouTube will still have podcasts. Jimmy Dore will still be on YouTube, but YouTube is going to say he will never be in our rotation.
- [72:44]
Ian Crossland
I think if you do an algorithm other than, you know, times Time algorithms, like whatever's the most recent thing is what's in front of you. That if it's an open algorithm and it's government approved, like the people, we. The people are like, that's a reasonable algorithm that we could use that.
- [72:58]
Phil That Remains
Who's going to check the algorithm to decide if it's reasonable?
- [73:01]
Tim Pool
Hold on, hold on. I didn't say listen, is it possible. I said I'm going to do that. I am telling you right now, YouTube is liable for their algorithm for any perceived damages. There is only one way around that. No algorithm.
- [73:14]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, but what does that mean? There's still an algorithm? No, if it's just like time based, you know, whatever you want to call that. No, still technically an algorithm. Is it just like the most recent thing is what you see?
- [73:24]
Tim Pool
No.
- [73:24]
Ian Crossland
Then how.
- [73:25]
Tim Pool
What do you see when you YouTube editorially signs contracts with big channels and puts them on the front page like the New York Times puts articles.
- [73:31]
Phil That Remains
It's the same thing.
- [73:31]
Ian Crossland
Any feeds. You're getting rid of feeds completely?
- [73:33]
Tim Pool
Yes.
- [73:34]
Ian Crossland
I don't do. Why would you do that?
- [73:35]
Tim Pool
That's like. Why would you control the narrative and make everybody believe what you want them to believe?
- [73:40]
Ian Crossland
That's not the idea.
- [73:41]
Phil That Remains
Because most people don't.
- [73:42]
Tim Pool
Yes, it is.
- [73:43]
Phil That Remains
That's what for YouTube, it is.
- [73:44]
Stella Escobedo
They're getting rid of independent journalism. That's what.
- [73:46]
Ian Crossland
That's the point.
- [73:47]
Phil That Remains
The people that.
- [73:48]
Tim Pool
The big investors in the government. You think, you think the Ellison. You think the Ellison's bought CBS for fun?
- [73:54]
Ian Crossland
No, I know.
- [73:55]
Tim Pool
Why. Why did they buy. Why, why did they buy.
- [73:58]
Ian Crossland
TikTok is trying to control people's minds so that they can make you eat paste and shut up.
- [74:03]
Tim Pool
So why would they let people speak freely when the precedent set now is you are legally liable? They have every opportunity.
- [74:10]
Ian Crossland
You be free. That's not what the world is about.
- [74:12]
Tim Pool
What does that have to do with powerful elites trying to shut you out
- [74:16]
Ian Crossland
that don't bow down and acquiesce at the first sign?
- [74:20]
Tim Pool
What has to do with it?
- [74:21]
Ian Crossland
What does what have to do with it?
- [74:23]
Tim Pool
You may want a lot of things, Ian. It doesn't matter if the people who own those things won't give them to you.
- [74:30]
Phil That Remains
You're making it. You're not making the distinction between is and ought. Right. So you're talking about the way things ought to be. The way you think things ought to be. Yeah, right. But what's. What you're dealing with when it comes to the scenario that Tim's talking about is the way that it is.
- [74:45]
Ian Crossland
If, if no changes happen. That is the path we are on. Yes, but changes will and can happen.
- [74:49]
Tim Pool
And those change that are happening right now is as I stated, you used to be able to download any song you wanted. What happened, Ian?
- [74:55]
Ian Crossland
They Commone ties that.
- [74:57]
Phil That Remains
Yeah.
- [74:57]
Tim Pool
Now you have. They sued people, they criminally charged people. And then they pushed all of digital music into a single system where they decide what you listen to. That's why when Carter and I had songs that should have charted on a Billboard, they lied to us and and didn't count it the whole week when we had Together again for sale.
- [75:14]
Phil That Remains
That's what I heard last night.
- [75:14]
Tim Pool
What do we had 30000 sales in one week.
- [75:16]
Ian Crossland
6.4 million views on YouTube. Right.
- [75:18]
Tim Pool
40 something thousand.
- [75:19]
Stella Escobedo
So what you're saying?
- [75:20]
Tim Pool
So hold on. We had 40000 sales of our song
- [75:23]
Ian Crossland
number one on the 200. It's a sucker song.
- [75:25]
Tim Pool
You thought we were gonna be number one if.
- [75:27]
Ian Crossland
If they would have counted all that? Yes.
- [75:29]
Tim Pool
Instead they told us during the week where we were selling. We said this Ark of Wash seventh release.
- [75:35]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, yeah. And honestly dude, we. We pushed itunes for pre sales and got like 2500 and still got like 6 on the alt chart.
- [75:42]
Tim Pool
And so we said this is our seventh release. We keep getting mistakes on Billboard charting for some reason. Tell us what to do. Said here's what you need to do. We even paid for a service for. For illuminate. And they said here's what you do. And I said okay, we are putting the song up. We are going to do what you tell us to do. We are going to sell the song. The Daily Wire helped promote it because it was a cover of Jeremy Boring and Michael Jeremy Boring song with Michael Knowles. The song releases selling like hotcakes. So we know with the data in the back end, we're tracking really well to to massively storm the charts. We reach out to all involved three different companies. Is this the right way to do it? And they said yes, everything looks good. When the week ended, they did not count our sales and we got ninth place in sales. And we said hold on. We had something like 40,000 singles sold making us like the number one single for the week. And they said we don't count your singles. And we said why? Because the machine controls what you are allowed to hear. And Carter Banks and Tim Pool are not allowed to be rock stars on the Billboard shows.
- [76:49]
Ian Crossland
Control what you can hear.
- [76:50]
Tim Pool
We got something like what? We got something like 15 million streams or whatever on that song.
- [76:55]
Ian Crossland
Oh yeah, it's very much like the Oscars. Crazy.
- [76:57]
Tim Pool
They're not going to put me in
- [76:58]
Ian Crossland
the Oscars even if I do the best movie on earth and it wins.
- [77:00]
Tim Pool
Exactly. Thing is, they change. Exactly the point. They change the rules. And bro, bro, here's the funny thing. Because of us, didn't they change the rules again? Like three times we got kicked off Band Camp. There's like three services you can use
- [77:13]
Ian Crossland
to sell digital downloads that they will accept and Band Camp was one of them. We had to create a band, Zoogle.
- [77:19]
Tim Pool
They. We got banned from Band Camp because we were. Because like. But the machine only allows the people they choose to speak.
- [77:28]
Ian Crossland
And that was during the Biden administration. We were talking really critical about the.
- [77:31]
Stella Escobedo
And the machine is now going to continue to control independent journalists. And what you're saying is we've had a good run.
- [77:39]
Tim Pool
Well, they're still going to be, as there always is, independent musicians. They'll make okay money. Independent media will exist. You will find ways to the cracks. But it's largely going to be solidified.
- [77:52]
Stella Escobedo
Right.
- [77:52]
Tim Pool
Short films sometimes make it, but usually if you're not on Amazon, I mean, how is I'm going to find your film?
- [77:58]
Stella Escobedo
They're not going to know.
- [77:58]
Tim Pool
Yeah. So there will be some virality engines through, say, X. But in the early in the dawn of Facebook and Twitter, virality engines were massive. You could make a video note go viral. There was no control over what people were able to push up. And see this how 4chan was able to do a bunch of operations. They've shut that down. Facebook has banned everybody and there's no more virality. It is gone. I don't know if people remember this, but in the 2000s, in the early 2010s, you could film a video and it would end up on Reddit, hit the front page and before you knew it, you had millions of views.
- [78:32]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, that's how we promoted minds. That's how we're doing it with Facebook market, all that marketing, man, that never happens anymore. It's gone. Reddit would ban you if they found out you were doing it.
- [78:40]
Tim Pool
They would try and stop you, but you couldn't. I'm not talking about doing anything. I'm saying people could post your content and it would go viral. No longer does this happen.
- [78:47]
Ian Crossland
If they knew that I was the one posting it, they would stop it. That was their rule.
- [78:51]
Tim Pool
You're allowed to post your own content.
- [78:53]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, but not. You would still delete it for some reason.
- [78:56]
Stella Escobedo
Speaking of virality, did you mention that Elon Musk responded to you?
- [79:00]
Tim Pool
Yeah. Someone Kettlebell Dan said we should be able to. We should set it so that you can charge people to DM you&A set amount. And I agree. And then I said, I said, I agree. Let's do it. Elon. I said, okay, yeah. So the idea is that. So right now, I'll put it like this. My DMs are closed. Nobody can DM me because otherwise with 2.5 million followers all day, impossible.
- [79:23]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
- [79:24]
Tim Pool
However, there are some circumstances where I have no problem with anyone DMing me. So right now it's closed to only people that I follow and know can DM me. Imagine if he opened it up. That said, if you would like to DM this person, it costs $20. Now some might say. And they did, that's BS. Why should I give you money to try and talk to you? Well, because I don't want 7,000 messages per hour. My mentions are already unreadable. But if someone truly wants to get through and they do. $20. That dramatically reduces spam. It eliminates bots. It gives me an incentive to actually read these messages. A way to monetize the platform for high profile creators. And if people are truly serious and have something important to say they're willing to spend 20 bucks on, then they will listen.
- [80:07]
Stella Escobedo
No, exactly. Look, I. I agree with you. I had an experience on Alaska Airlines not too long ago and I wanted to try to send an email to one of their executives. Every single email I found bounced back. Because they only want you to deal with their AI bots online or their customer service if you can get through to them. So like you said, to your point, if somebody wants to talk to you and you have what, how many? Two million followers?
- [80:30]
Tim Pool
2.5.
- [80:31]
Stella Escobedo
Congratulations.
- [80:32]
Tim Pool
I'm not, I'm not. I'm not opening my DMs. I would get 10,000 messages every hour or more. Probably more than that. My mentions are already just unreadable. I click mention, it's just a feed flying like crazy. You can not happen. And then don't get me started on when I start trending for whatever reason, if people are talking about me or I do something controversial. But there's with Cameo and similar services. Not only with Cameo can you offer to pay someone for a shout out. You can. You can also set it so that they can send you messages, business deals, or requests for money.
- [81:04]
Ian Crossland
I wonder if. If X will take a percentage or just keep it free. Keep it completely.
- [81:09]
Tim Pool
I think it'll be a money guy. It'll be free. I don't think It'll be free. You know why it'll be free?
- [81:14]
Stella Escobedo
Why?
- [81:14]
Tim Pool
Because Elon needs a machine to get people to use X money.
- [81:17]
Phil That Remains
Yeah, I was going to say because X money.
- [81:19]
Tim Pool
He wants to roll out X money where you can use the X app
- [81:21]
Ian Crossland
to buy music video.
- [81:23]
Tim Pool
How does he get people to universally adopt this? High profile individuals who have a monetary incentive to have money in their X accounts which they will then be like, I can use X money. I got 60 bucks because I got a bunch of messages. Regular people will then have a reason to load money onto their X account to then DM people. It's a brilliant plan. I hope he does it.
- [81:42]
Ian Crossland
Part of the future of independent journalism for sure. That's how independent journalists will stay alive and stay eating well.
- [81:47]
Stella Escobedo
Now even the monetization I know back in the day like with you could make like 10,000.
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- [82:52]
Stella Escobedo
Thousand dollars a month on X. I don't even think that's, that's the case anymore.
- [82:56]
Tim Pool
Well, I see Lives of Tick Tock.
- [82:57]
Stella Escobedo
Tick Tock. Actually, did you see Libs of Tick?
- [82:59]
Tim Pool
I get like 7k a month.
- [83:00]
Phil That Remains
Yeah, there was a, there was a. The. I saw what you're talking about. The $10,000 that happened.
- [83:05]
Stella Escobedo
What is that? I don't know.
- [83:07]
Tim Pool
It's premium. It's. It's gold check. Okay, so the X gold check everybody like a lot of hyper for us it was like 20,000 a year and we stopped because they don't do anything for you. It's basically like hey, if you give us ten grand we'll give you gold check and ten grand in ads. Well, the first thing that happened was I wanted the Timcast, my personal mcast, to be the principal account. And they told me no because it was personal. Despite the fact a ton of people got their personal accounts verified. Yeah, Gold check. So we did it for Timcast News. Here's what happened. One day I get a text message from my credit from my bank saying, did you just spend 20 grand on premium business? Salt said was premium business? I said, what the is that? No. So I go and I ask, you know our like admins, what's this credit card bill for 20 grand? No idea. Pull it up. We go and look at the statement and says, premium business, 20 grand. And we're like, yeah, okay, this looks like a scam. So I call my bank and I say, we can't identify this purchase. It's $20,000. And they were like, okay, then we're gonna block it. Three days later, Gold check removed. Everybody loses verification. And we went, ah, that's what that was. That's. It was a, it was the yearly. And then I said, well, hold on a minute, hold on a minute. Why is it $20,000? And then we went through it and it's something like if you have a business account for every person you add to your account, it's like a hundred bucks. And then I said, guys, it's like $10 to get your own blue check. I'm not spending a hundred dollars a person when it's 10 bucks a person. So we, we told them we're yourself. Yeah, we're not interested anymore. Apparently libs of Tick tock to the same thing. And they charged him anyway.
- [84:40]
Stella Escobedo
Well, that's what she was saying. That's they were posting. They're like, I just got a ten thousand dollar bill, can somebody help me? And I'm like, what is this? I had no idea what that was. Did you know?
- [84:48]
Ian Crossland
Yes.
- [84:48]
Tim Pool
Premium business. It's purely cosmetic.
- [84:52]
Stella Escobedo
Yes.
- [84:53]
Tim Pool
You get it. Well, here's the thing. You get a golden check mark. You can then add people to your account who get your little badge and it's like 100 bucks a person. So for us it was 20 grand a year, which is like 2,000 bucks a month. It's crazy. It's like a little bit less. But you get preferred access to the people at X. So it is valuable because like you were saying with Facebook, it's all bots. With premium business, you call a person on the phone and they fix problems for you. So it does have that value. The only thing is, I said, I'll just buy premium personally for myself for, you know, 30 bucks a month or whatever.
- [85:23]
Stella Escobedo
And how often are you calling them?
- [85:25]
Tim Pool
Never ever.
- [85:26]
Stella Escobedo
Exactly.
- [85:27]
Tim Pool
But I. But I do hope that Elon creates something. So you do get 10,000 free ad credits. And we use them. We did. I just ultimately said, I don't know that we have enough of a marketing campaign and X for it to make it worth it for a big brand. It does make a lot of sense because you're just going to promote your brand using X platform, which works. But we don't really run ads that much on X, which we could. But so, you know, it's valuable if you're selling pizza and you have, like, a big restaurant chain, but for us, didn't quite make sense.
- [85:56]
Ian Crossland
I wonder if you could add functionality to the gold check mark itself. Like, if I click on it, it takes me to a list of all the people that are in that organization.
- [86:03]
Tim Pool
I think it does do that.
- [86:04]
Ian Crossland
From online analytics.
- [86:05]
Tim Pool
I think it does do that.
- [86:06]
Stella Escobedo
I've, like, never checked on a gold check mark.
- [86:09]
Tim Pool
Yeah, but you'll note, you see the badge next to someone's name. I'll say, like, Tim Cast.
- [86:12]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, yeah. And click it, and it's gold. No, no.
- [86:15]
Tim Pool
Next to one of their affiliates names will be their company's profile. Like, that's pretty cool.
- [86:19]
Ian Crossland
Does everyone in the org get access to the call? Then you pay for other people.
- [86:23]
Tim Pool
Oh, your company does.
- [86:24]
Ian Crossland
The company.
- [86:24]
Tim Pool
I mean, it's better the way. It's better than how they used to do it when it was run by the FBI.
- [86:29]
Ian Crossland
I'm saying, like, if there were. If you had, like, 20 people, you were paying for $100 each for the month. Could any of those 20 people call helpline? Oh, okay. So it opens up to the employee network.
- [86:37]
Tim Pool
Well, it's whatever you, as the boss of your company, spending the money. It's whoever you want to give the phone number to. So I could be like, hey, Phil, I need you to call X. Here's the number. This is the problem, which wouldn't make sense to give Phil the number, but he could call me if you wanted to.
- [86:49]
Stella Escobedo
By the way, guys, Nick Shirley just spoke at cpac and people are praising him, saying he delivered a historic speech.
- [86:54]
Tim Pool
Amazing.
- [86:55]
Ian Crossland
Dude.
- [86:55]
Stella Escobedo
I don't know. I haven't.
- [86:56]
Tim Pool
Legend.
- [86:56]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, there's like a. A little clip, but I'm not gonna play it. You can play. You can find it.
- [87:01]
Tim Pool
We need more Nick Shirley's. We need more Nate Friedman's. We need more Cam Higby's.
- [87:05]
Stella Escobedo
Oh, Nick. Can we talk about Nick Friedman? He's doing an amazing job. Nate. Nate Friedman.
- [87:09]
Tim Pool
Sorry. I know he's doing an incredible job.
- [87:10]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
- [87:11]
Tim Pool
And it's. And you know, Nick Shirley's really taking the spotlight. You got these three young guys all popping up, doing this ground, this on the ground journalism. Nick Shirley just skyrocketed to the moon. But let's not forget these other guys are doing great work on the ground. I'm an old man. I can't do it.
- [87:23]
Stella Escobedo
No, no. I was gonna say. And you know who opened the doors for them? It was people like you. I don't. I don't. I want people to know, like, how journalism is. You grind. Okay. I've spent so many years. You know, when you're in local news, you're grinding day in, day out. And even what you do now, Tim, it's. It's remarkable. The fact that you can go on air and you can speak for three hours. I think people think that's easy. It's not easy for me. Well, I know, but still, like, you gotta talk.
- [87:47]
Phil That Remains
I've been doing it for a decade
- [87:48]
Stella Escobedo
too, but there's preparation that goes into it. It's not like you. You're not reading, you're not constantly educating yourself. It's. It's a lot of work. It's not like a regular job where you're like, you know what? Today I'm going to go wash the dishes and I'm just not going to use my brain. That's not how this works. I spent years in media. Like, even when I did a morning show, I would go in at like 4. I'd be on air by 4:30, and then I'd be on until 1pm That's a lot of air time, and that's a lot of work. And you have to be prepared. You have to know what you're talking about.
- [88:12]
Tim Pool
The longest I've ever gone. It was during Occupy. I was live for 21 hours.
- [88:16]
Stella Escobedo
You were live the entire time?
- [88:17]
Tim Pool
Yeah, 21 hours.
- [88:18]
Stella Escobedo
See, people.
- [88:19]
Tim Pool
People were bringing me batteries because my phone was dying. And then what? At one point, I had no battery. So there was a guy who. This guy Justin, had a laptop in his backpack. So I plugged my phone into his laptop and ran alongside him to get a trickle charge off his laptop. And then people went to this old tech store that doesn't exist anymore called J and R, and bought these big Energizer batteries and then would run them to me and they would have like 70% I'd plug in my phone to keep it going 21 hours straight.
- [88:44]
Ian Crossland
Did you go to the bathroom?
- [88:45]
Tim Pool
Yes.
- [88:46]
Ian Crossland
What did you do with the record?
- [88:47]
Tim Pool
Handed the phone to somebody. Ran in the bathroom, ran out. And then it got to the point where I was so exhausted and malnourished, I couldn't open my hand anymore. It was.
- [88:55]
Ian Crossland
Or something.
- [88:56]
Tim Pool
Yep. It was raining, and I was like, I can't open my hand. It's cramped. It's locked. I'm dehydrated. I need a banana. And then someone ran and brought me a naked juice, and I slammed it, and I was like, let's go.
- [89:07]
Stella Escobedo
But you also have the gift of gab. Okay, not everybody can speak for 21 hours. Hours?
- [89:10]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [89:11]
Stella Escobedo
Where'd you get that gift form? From your mom or your dad?
- [89:14]
Tim Pool
The.
- [89:14]
Phil That Remains
The.
- [89:14]
Tim Pool
The strategy is.
- [89:16]
Stella Escobedo
No, but really, no.
- [89:19]
Tim Pool
The strategy is. Here's the trick. When you're streaming online, it's easy to talk forever because there's a chat feed constantly going. So when you're walking down the street, if there's nothing to talk about, you just say, let's. Let's go to the chat and see what they're saying. And then you start reading.
- [89:31]
Phil That Remains
Part of Tim's thing is he's got a really, really remarkable memory.
- [89:35]
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah.
- [89:35]
Phil That Remains
He can just, like, recall things. Like, he'll sit there and list off, like, poker hands that he was playing two days ago or last weekend.
- [89:42]
Tim Pool
I can tell you a poker hand I played three years ago.
- [89:45]
Phil That Remains
Yeah. So that. That's. That's a real, real good edge, that.
- [89:49]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
- [89:49]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. I don't want to, like, you know, like, shoot it up your. You know, whatever, but good job, man.
- [89:54]
Tim Pool
Yeah, that's right.
- [89:55]
Stella Escobedo
I just want people.
- [89:56]
Phil That Remains
He has no control over his. Over his memory. That's not shooting it up.
- [89:59]
Stella Escobedo
As, you know, as we're crediting these young, up and coming journalists, I just want people to know. Know that there are people like, you know, Tim, who set. Who set the tone, you know, back in the day.
- [90:09]
Tim Pool
You know what the trick is? It's video games.
- [90:10]
Stella Escobedo
I'm not aging.
- [90:11]
Tim Pool
I have a good memory because of one video game.
- [90:13]
Ian Crossland
Which one?
- [90:14]
Stella Escobedo
Which one?
- [90:14]
Tim Pool
Ian? You might be able to make a guess based on my age. What game would I have played when I was young that would be good for my memory? I'll give you.
- [90:23]
Ian Crossland
Oh, God. I mean, my guess is Chrono Trigger,
- [90:27]
Tim Pool
but it's not Mahjong.
- [90:29]
Phil That Remains
I don't think.
- [90:30]
Tim Pool
No.
- [90:30]
Ian Crossland
And I was.
- [90:31]
Tim Pool
I am 40 years old. Mario, Bro. I'm just kidding. Yes. Which one?
- [90:35]
Stella Escobedo
Super Mario.
- [90:36]
Tim Pool
Which one?
- [90:38]
Stella Escobedo
Because I used to.
- [90:39]
Tim Pool
This is a very easy one. Chat. Can you figure out which. Which game I'm talking about?
- [90:43]
Ian Crossland
Super Mario World.
- [90:44]
Tim Pool
You are all uncultured heathens. It's Super Mario 3.
- [90:48]
Stella Escobedo
Super.
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- [90:49]
Stella Escobedo
Why?
- [90:50]
Tim Pool
Because they have a memory game as a bonus in. In. In Mario.
- [90:54]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [90:55]
Tim Pool
So in Mario 3, if you beat certain levels with a certain time or coin amount, you will get. I think it's called the end card, dude. And when you go to it, you will then get a game of memory where if you can match without making, I think, what is it? Two errors, you will get the items. And so every time I'm playing that game, not only did I have to memorize where the star was, here's what else I memorized. There were only, I think, four different memory games. And so based on where the first, there's like the top left corner is a 10 coin. Then you go down to the bottom and write one as a 10 coin. And if I saw that, I instantly
- [91:29]
Stella Escobedo
knew the entire thing was Super Nintendo or Nintendo.
- [91:32]
Tim Pool
Yes.
- [91:33]
Stella Escobedo
Okay. Any.
- [91:33]
Tim Pool
Oh, gee.
- [91:34]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
- [91:34]
Tim Pool
How about this one for you, Ian?
- [91:35]
Ian Crossland
Have you played Ready Memory. Memory for your kids? If you guys have. It's. That's the game we played all the time.
- [91:41]
Tim Pool
Growing, like a lot. Not all the time. And guess who.
- [91:43]
Ian Crossland
But memory, dude.
- [91:44]
Tim Pool
Here you go.
- [91:45]
Ian Crossland
Memory for your kids.
- [91:46]
Tim Pool
B, A, B, A up, down, B, A left, right, B, A start.
- [91:50]
Stella Escobedo
That was okay.
- [91:51]
Tim Pool
Teenage Ninja Turtles two level select code. Try it. I'm not wrong.
- [91:54]
Ian Crossland
Oh, I don't know if I ever used that code.
- [91:56]
Tim Pool
It gives you nine lives. It gives you nine extra lives because you also have zero. And you can choose any stage you want.
- [92:02]
Ian Crossland
Read a lot of books as a kid?
- [92:03]
Tim Pool
Nope, Just Harry Potter. Oh, yeah. And Still Life with Woodpecker.
- [92:09]
Ian Crossland
Still Life with Woodpecker.
- [92:10]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [92:10]
Stella Escobedo
I don't know. Do you remember. Do you remember the Orange Gun?
- [92:13]
Tim Pool
The Orange Gun. The Zapper.
- [92:15]
Stella Escobedo
Yes. Ours was great for Nintendo.
- [92:17]
Ian Crossland
Oh, yeah.
- [92:18]
Phil That Remains
The early one was.
- [92:18]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, the early one was. Was it. Or right. It was orange. Right.
- [92:21]
Tim Pool
There was an orange one. Mine was gray.
- [92:23]
Ian Crossland
Still Life with who?
- [92:24]
Tim Pool
Woodpecker.
- [92:25]
Phil That Remains
They made it orange because it was like.
- [92:28]
Tim Pool
Read all the Harry Potter books when
- [92:29]
Ian Crossland
I was a little kid, all seven of them.
- [92:31]
Tim Pool
I. Bro, it was an experience. I remember like, I remember being. I think I was 18 years old and I was reading a social media post on, like, Live Journal from a friend, and they said, can you believe that by the time the last book comes out will be 21 years old and you Were like, wow.
- [92:45]
Stella Escobedo
Wait, there. There was no social media back then.
- [92:47]
Tim Pool
Yeah. Live Journal. You. Oh, yeah. When I was 18, we had Friendster in MySpace. Yeah.
- [92:51]
Stella Escobedo
My space. Remember MySpace?
- [92:53]
Tim Pool
I used you journal.
- [92:55]
Ian Crossland
I used MySpace. That was how I got started on YouTube, because I wanted to send my friends my videos. I'm like, I'm having these ideas about breaking through fear and being open and, like, communication with people. And then so I'd embed them in MySpace and mail them. And then people just started responding on YouTube. I'm like, I guess there's a market for this.
- [93:09]
Stella Escobedo
But remember when MySpace was like a chat thing and then it became a music channel?
- [93:13]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. And then, like, Timberlake bought it. Yeah, it was the best.
- [93:15]
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's a bummer. They did that, by the way, because they erased the database and everything.
- [93:19]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, yeah.
- [93:20]
Ian Crossland
I try to find my stuff. It's totally gone.
- [93:22]
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's all gone. Yeah, we had the. The first. So I was on you Journal and LiveJournal. And then the first actual social network was actually before this. We all had a GeoCities. Did you guys have a Geo?
- [93:32]
Ian Crossland
I made one. I built.
- [93:34]
Tim Pool
And I had a. I had the Peanut butter Jelly Man Gif. You know, and then I had. I had Hulk. I had no. I had Macho Man, Randy Savage, Jif. And then you'd embed an mp3. And we all had these little geocities websites. And then people started using you journal and livejournal because you could post and you didn't need to build it. Then Friendster came out. My friend was like, are you on Friendster? I was like, what is it? I was like, you put a picture and you, like, make a profile. Then MySpace came out. Went to MySpace. Then Facebook came out. We were like, I'm not moving. But then MySpace started getting cluttered with stupid CSS and, like, HTML. Well, no, no, no. Well, well, before they shut it down.
- [94:08]
Ian Crossland
Ground to a halt in, like, 2006. End of 2006, MySpace got overloaded because it was so popular and they couldn't. It was before you could have virtual dude.
- [94:15]
Tim Pool
You were getting spammed.
- [94:16]
Ian Crossland
They couldn't control the servers. And it ground the site to a halt for like, a month. And everybody's on YouTube. We. A lot of YouTubers. Like, this sucks because everybody's using MySpace.
- [94:24]
Tim Pool
Graphic designer stop to make per.
- [94:27]
Ian Crossland
Like, really high level, like, the top banner. They were like, my band and stuff. It was awesome. But it was a victim of its own success. And then it ground it.
- [94:36]
Phil That Remains
What, MySpace?
- [94:37]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [94:37]
Ian Crossland
And then. And Then Facebook appeared and everyone jumped. I think a big part of the
- [94:40]
Phil That Remains
problem, I think a big part of the problem with MySpace was how crazy people's MySpace pages.
- [94:44]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it would cost.
- [94:46]
Phil That Remains
Yeah, you're low. You like, it would take forever to load. Like it was just, it just got so out of hand that they become unfunction.
- [94:52]
Stella Escobedo
I'm really happy I didn't have social media growing up, like really like in high school and all that stuff because I see what's going on now. Just the competition and you're competing for cliques and you're competing for fashion and you're, it's, it's not reality.
- [95:05]
Ian Crossland
Well, what about what Nick Shirley's doing not to, not to like there. Maybe it's a double edged sword because I think you're right about a lot of it.
- [95:11]
Stella Escobedo
I think it's, it's a little bit different. He's doing journalism and journalism that's being promoted.
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- [96:17]
Stella Escobedo
I'm saying that's a little bit different than being like, look at me, look at what I'm wearing. And I'm so hot and I'm so popular and I got 10,000 clicks here.
- [96:24]
Tim Pool
I think it's Jiff, by the way.
- [96:26]
Ian Crossland
And he's not under 18.
- [96:27]
Tim Pool
Not GIF. It's Jif. Jif, the inventor of the gif said it's the Jif.
- [96:31]
Stella Escobedo
The Jif.
- [96:32]
Tim Pool
And it was meant to be a reference to the speed at which you know you are watching the video. And it is Jif.
- [96:40]
Ian Crossland
Okay.
- [96:40]
Tim Pool
I'm okay.
- [96:41]
Ian Crossland
I can't challenge it right now. Tim.
- [96:43]
Tim Pool
People.
- [96:43]
Stella Escobedo
I'm not fighting people.
- [96:45]
Tim Pool
People are bringing up in the comments saying, it's not Jif, it's gif. And there was a viral video a while ago where there was like, oh, because GI is jaw. Like my Jolden retriever. Like, what are you talking about? And then I was like, what, like my giant or magic, like, we're talking about GI makes just sound Jiff. Jif. Have a nice day.
- [97:04]
Stella Escobedo
Like the peanut butter.
- [97:05]
Phil That Remains
Yeah.
- [97:06]
Tim Pool
Or like a maggot giant. It's not a G. A gigantic magic giant. Because G can't make a just sound.
- [97:13]
Ian Crossland
Start giving people gifts for Halloween and for Christmas.
- [97:16]
Tim Pool
I do love the word gigantic, by the way, because it's, like, got two GS, but it's gigantic. And you're like, dude, gigantic.
- [97:22]
Ian Crossland
Oh, that's true.
- [97:23]
Tim Pool
It's got gigantic right now. Magic giant.
- [97:28]
Phil That Remains
Yeah.
- [97:28]
Ian Crossland
Gifts. All right, Tim, it seemed like we were talking about how great you are and how you inspired the youth to keep doing, like, I don't want to talk about how good I am right now, you guys. But that was just.
- [97:36]
Stella Escobedo
Do they have questions for him if
- [97:37]
Ian Crossland
you, like, rile them up? What's that?
- [97:38]
Stella Escobedo
Do they have questions for him?
- [97:39]
Ian Crossland
For Tim?
- [97:40]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah. How great it was.
- [97:41]
Ian Crossland
We got about a half hour questions, actually. Yeah, we got super chats coming up. Oh, and rumble rants. We're gonna take.
- [97:47]
Tim Pool
See what people indeed. But we do have other big news to get to, and this one's from espn. Transgender women banned from the Olympics. I would. You know, I'm going to fix this right now for you guys. So let's. Let's do this. I'm going to teach you guys a lesson right here. So here we are on ESPN.com. i'm going to go right here. See this? See this right here? I'm going to right click and go to inspect. This pops up right here. And then we're going to double click this. And I'm just going to go right here. Check this out. I'm going to go backspace and get rid of that, and then I'm going to type men and press enter.
- [98:16]
Stella Escobedo
Did you just change it?
- [98:17]
Tim Pool
There you go. Now, the website says men banned from. It's not.
- [98:22]
Phil That Remains
Not on there.
- [98:23]
Tim Pool
Let me.
- [98:23]
Stella Escobedo
Let me on there.
- [98:24]
Tim Pool
Okay, I gotta fix it again because men banned from women's. There you go. Fix it for you. ESPN men are banned from the women's Olympics by new IOC policy. That's it. Apparently, a new woman is now in charge. And she was just like, yeah, we don't want dudes and Then it was funny on Fox. They were like, I guess it takes a woman to come in and fix this stuff.
- [98:45]
Stella Escobedo
I mean, it's about time, I think. Why did it take this long?
- [98:48]
Tim Pool
Because the conspiracy is the men who are in charge are trying to eliminate women's sports.
- [98:52]
Stella Escobedo
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
- [98:53]
Tim Pool
And so they were like, how do we do it? Let men play in women's sports but
- [98:57]
Stella Escobedo
invade all women's spaces. Like, in California, you can be a man and go into a woman's bathroom and just say, I identify as, like, my kids. Two of my daughters, they play soccer, and they're young, and there's boys that play on other teams.
- [99:10]
Phil That Remains
The last thing that I want to see is a man playing woman's volleyball, period. Because I enjoy women's volleyball. I don't want to watch men playing women's.
- [99:20]
Stella Escobedo
No, but I'm saying, like, listen, genetically, obviously, I don't need to tell you this. Men are built differently. Women, like, look, my daughter's been playing since she was like, what? My oldest has been playing soccer since she was five years old. She's now nine years old. And, you know, there have been times where they've played soccer and there's a boy on the team. That boy gave a girl a bloody nose by. Yes, yes. But if that boy identifies as a girl, you can't do anything about it.
- [99:47]
Tim Pool
The strongest woman is weaker than the average man. That is a scientific fact. On the. On the highest end of strength charts, these four women, they are still below the average man.
- [99:58]
Ian Crossland
Just for perspective, in the 80s and the 90s, when I was growing up, if I was, like, 12 and there was a boy on the girls team, it would have. Everyone would have talked about it for months and months and months, how horrible it was, and all the parents would be freaking out about it.
- [100:13]
Tim Pool
That boy would get beaten up easy.
- [100:15]
Ian Crossland
He would have been. Yeah, all sorts of the target of a bunch of stuff. And like, now the Internet, it's like, there's little corners. We're like, no, it's normal. And so all you do is look in the right corner and get mesmerized by the right idea.
- [100:25]
Stella Escobedo
No, it's like, don't believe your lying eyes. And you know how many women like Riley Gaines, like, a lot of. Of women got heat from coming out publicly and saying, yo, this is a woman's space. Get out of our spaces. There's a lot of women who put their lives on the line, really, if you think about it, their careers and everything. But again, to your point, it's like, don't believe your lying eyes. Like, you're not seeing what you're seeing. Of course the boys are going to play better than the woman, especially in Olympics. So I'm really glad that they actually made this decision.
- [100:53]
Ian Crossland
This transhuman ideology is very. They say it's gets tied to the trans sex. Like, the trans movement of people that believe they're trans. Like men transitioning to women.
- [101:02]
Stella Escobedo
And do you. Like. I'm not saying, like, do you.
- [101:04]
Tim Pool
It's.
- [101:05]
Ian Crossland
But it's. If you're gonna pretend to be a fantasy creature in a transhuman reality where your brain is asleep and you're a route. A robot carrot. Okay, it's fun, but it's still, like, you're still you when you get out of it. Like, whatever. You don't have to define yourself every second of the day.
- [101:19]
Stella Escobedo
Right. But even if you have people in the trans community who say, like, this is wrong, but their voices haven't been amplified. Except for who? Caitlyn Jenner.
- [101:29]
Tim Pool
There's a ton of. Ton of trans people.
- [101:30]
Stella Escobedo
Right, But I'm saying, like. Right, but there's a bunch of voices
- [101:34]
Tim Pool
are not Sarah Higdon.
- [101:35]
Stella Escobedo
Right. Their voices aren't amplified.
- [101:36]
Tim Pool
I disagree. I think. I think Blair White's pretty famous.
- [101:39]
Stella Escobedo
No, no, I'm in mainstream media. You don't have a lot of.
- [101:41]
Tim Pool
You mean Caitlyn Jenner is only on Fox News.
- [101:43]
Ian Crossland
Caitlyn Jenner was the big.
- [101:44]
Stella Escobedo
In the Caitlyn Jenner.
- [101:46]
Tim Pool
Do you know the Caitlyn Jenner quote after getting the Bruce Jenner facial reconstruction? What? My God, what have I done?
- [101:53]
Ian Crossland
Really?
- [101:53]
Tim Pool
Yeah, something like that.
- [101:54]
Stella Escobedo
Regretting it.
- [101:55]
Tim Pool
Well, that's how it sounds if people
- [101:57]
Ian Crossland
don't know the story. Caitlyn Jenner is. Used to be Bruce Jenner. It's Kim Kardashian's father. Stepfather. It was her mother married Bruce after he was like, an Olympic athlete, gold medalist, maybe. And now he's Caitlyn Jenner. I haven't talked to him, but he'd be a good interview.
- [102:10]
Tim Pool
Yeah, just. There was a. There's a. There's a viral video going around of this transgender lawyer screaming at a judge and then getting arrested. And this transgender female to male screams, get me a female officer. I want to. I want a female cop. Why? Men don't get to request female officers. What are you talking about?
- [102:30]
Ian Crossland
I used to pretend I was Wonder Woman when I was little. If my parents had been crazy, they might have been like, you're a girl.
- [102:36]
Tim Pool
Chop his balls off.
- [102:36]
Ian Crossland
Done something horrible to me. If they were afraid, but they didn't live out of fear. They were like, you're creative and will be an actor. I played women on stage. It was fun.
- [102:43]
Tim Pool
It's like that Family Guy joke where they were. It's the Twinkie, the kid documentary, where they were like, you know, he used to play Wonder Woman and we. He's got the lasso of truth. And then they're like, we put a stop to that. He was different enough.
- [102:58]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. You know, and that. That's the crossroads of like, what's the. What's the difference here? Is it that he's actually a girl or that he's creative and wants to, you know.
- [103:07]
Tim Pool
You know, Twinkie. The kid cowboy Persona was also a delicious snack. A cream filled snack cake.
- [103:12]
Ian Crossland
Exactly. I played so many characters. That girl reminded me of my mom. My mom's awesome.
- [103:16]
Tim Pool
I was like, see, here's the thing, though. Back in the day, I mean, like hundreds of years ago, you would not have known what your mom was doing. Little boys would go hang out with the dad, not the mom. So in the morning, the daughters would go to the mom and they would do womenly things and the boys would go to the dad and do manly things. And then today, little boys are watching the TV and they are watching women. And so they're watching drag queen stuff. Exactly. And that's what there is imprinting on their psyche.
- [103:40]
Ian Crossland
Not make them women. It does not make them women.
- [103:42]
Stella Escobedo
You also have a lot of parents who are like, my child is X, Y and Z. My child believes they're a mermaid, and my child believes they're this and they're that. And it's like, oh, they're just kids with an imagination. Okay. That's all. All the.
- [103:53]
Tim Pool
And or parents. With Munchausen, a lot of Roxy, a
- [103:56]
Ian Crossland
lot of it is like the parents facilitating and creating momentum.
- [103:59]
Stella Escobedo
Oh, yeah. And they think it's really cool.
- [104:01]
Tim Pool
I mean, I'm still wondering why Ron Desantis hasn't arrested the family of Jazz Jennings.
- [104:05]
Ian Crossland
It's like, do no harm.
- [104:06]
Tim Pool
Like, how.
- [104:06]
Ian Crossland
How much worse can this jazz is
- [104:08]
Stella Escobedo
life become a Jazz from like the reality show.
- [104:11]
Tim Pool
Yeah. Like when the mother said that she wakes Jazz up in the middle of the night and threats. It threatens to shove a foreign object in her wound. I think that's grounds for like 25 years in prison conversations. Oh, I love. I love playing this clip. I'll grab it for you.
- [104:24]
Stella Escobedo
Please. I mean, I've seen that show on.
- [104:27]
Ian Crossland
I try not to complain about it a lot because I feel like that's not the solution. Like, to really help the kids. Like, to be a. Be a good, positive.
- [104:34]
Tim Pool
I love when you search for this. It's my tweet from 2023. And, like, here we go. You guys ready for this one? You ready for. You Ready to live in the night? Here we go. But with her, I'm worried about, like, her mental well being and her dilation.
- [104:51]
Stella Escobedo
The minute she leaves my house, we
- [104:53]
Tim Pool
have a dilation problem. That is a concern. We don't have that watchful eye. They tend to go back to old patterns.
- [105:01]
Stella Escobedo
I have woken Jazz out of a dead sleep and taken the dilator and put the lubrication on it and said, here, you take this and you put it in your vagina. If not, I will.
- [105:10]
Tim Pool
But Jazz is bad. Even when I'm home once a day,
- [105:13]
Stella Escobedo
I will be so mad if she goes away to college and that thing seals up, I will wring her neck. Imagine.
- [105:20]
Tim Pool
Hold on, hold on.
- [105:21]
Ian Crossland
I want to say about the.
- [105:22]
Tim Pool
This is a woman saying that I wake up my son in the middle of the night with a foreign object and say, lubricate this and stick it in the surgical graft in your body.
- [105:32]
Stella Escobedo
She should go to jail.
- [105:33]
Tim Pool
And if you don't, I will. And then she says, if she doesn't, I will wring her neck. And this is in Florida. And I'm wondering why Ron DeSantis and the Florida government never put this woman in prison.
- [105:42]
Ian Crossland
I think because she's being paid by a TV company to make this footage. So if anything, the company could be on the line. Like, if she just was doing social media and like, look, everyone, look what I'm doing to my child. And at this point, Jazz was over 18 as well, which is, you know, so it's not.
- [105:56]
Stella Escobedo
This is. So. This is so weird to me, you know? You know Chloe Cole?
- [105:59]
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah, she's been.
- [106:00]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, I've interviewed her before, and even. Yeah, she's amazing. And even Chloe Cole has come out and been like, I made a mistake. I made a total mistake. And then you have all these doctors who lie to you. They're. I don't know. You go to these. I don't. Mental doctors, and they just check your. I don't. They shouldn't even exist at this point. They should be like, you're a child. You're not fully developed yet. Come back in your maybe 20s and see if you want to cut off your boobs. See what you want to do. I mean, who is it? Who else was it? When they make a fake penis, too.
- [106:30]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, Phalloplasty.
- [106:32]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah. Like, have you seen what that looks like?
- [106:34]
Phil That Remains
Oh, boy.
- [106:35]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [106:36]
Stella Escobedo
And then these people.
- [106:37]
Tim Pool
And then hairy tube of baloney.
- [106:38]
Stella Escobedo
But these people have to be on medication for the rest of their lives. They say, like, I've interviewed somebody who said I probably will die in, like, five years because they constantly have infections. I mean, this is a big business. I know now they've stopped doing some of these transitions. All across the nation, a lot of these hospitals have come out and said, we're not doing these transitions. Hello. You should have never been doing this.
- [107:01]
Ian Crossland
No, I think it's an outgrowth of the. The reality TV psychosis that started in with Big Brother in like 99 or 98 or 2000, whatever. Like, this girl, this mom who's like, that's so far psychotic about calling her son a girl, firstly, is like calling his her son she. Like, that's level of psychosis is. Look, I'm just saying a boy is not a girl. A boy could be a trans girl, but a boy is not a girl. So, you know, have that on TV and is.
- [107:30]
Stella Escobedo
No, no, I was going to say. I've been called names for saying exactly that because men are telling me they are women.
- [107:36]
Ian Crossland
They're trans women. It's different than a woman.
- [107:38]
Stella Escobedo
Exactly.
- [107:38]
Tim Pool
They're men.
- [107:39]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, they're men.
- [107:40]
Ian Crossland
They're men and they're trans women at the same time.
- [107:42]
Tim Pool
That can be men.
- [107:44]
Ian Crossland
And it's semantics after that.
- [107:46]
Stella Escobedo
I mean, can you have a baby? Can a trans woman have a baby?
- [107:50]
Ian Crossland
Oh, that I know.
- [107:51]
Phil That Remains
Like, for now.
- [107:53]
Tim Pool
No, it's impossible.
- [107:53]
Stella Escobedo
It's impossible.
- [107:54]
Tim Pool
Even with womb transplants, it's not possible.
- [107:55]
Phil That Remains
All kinds of stuff.
- [107:57]
Stella Escobedo
It's like, why?
- [107:58]
Tim Pool
Well, they. They've done womb transplants for women, and so they made the argument they could do it for men. But the problem is the structure of the man's body is it's not gonna work.
- [108:05]
Stella Escobedo
I mean, they even put tampons in men's bathrooms in California. This is insane.
- [108:10]
Phil That Remains
Yeah, it's insane.
- [108:13]
Ian Crossland
That's when you say there's a foreign.
- [108:14]
Tim Pool
Oh, I would take them.
- [108:16]
Stella Escobedo
I mean, they put them in the bath.
- [108:17]
Tim Pool
What you do is it's really fun. You get it wet and you swing it around and launch them. That's what we used to do when we were kids. You take it, you dip it in the water, and then you can swipe it and, like, throw it at people. It's like a perfect. Like, it's like a spit wad.
- [108:28]
Stella Escobedo
But imagine how confusing it is for kids to. In schools. Like, all of a sudden you had a friend that was, you know, the
- [108:33]
Tim Pool
dudes were smashing them. So there are a bunch of stories. They put tampons in the men's room and then the boys would destroy it and then run away.
- [108:40]
Stella Escobedo
Good.
- [108:40]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [108:41]
Phil That Remains
Yeah, that part of it is hilarious.
- [108:44]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, man. People believing.
- [108:46]
Stella Escobedo
Did you just tweet that?
- [108:48]
Tim Pool
Yeah. She should be in prison.
- [108:49]
Stella Escobedo
Should be in prison.
- [108:50]
Tim Pool
Yeah, absolutely. I tweeted every time it comes up on the show. That's why it's like, when I searched for it on X, it was my tweet from a couple of years ago.
- [108:56]
Ian Crossland
I think it's a foreign op. I know you earlier were like, candace is an op. And I'm like, this is an op.
- [109:00]
Tim Pool
But like, yeah, China was like, castrate the American male and then they will destroy themselves.
- [109:06]
Ian Crossland
That's. Yeah, yeah, it feels like a foreign op. Whatever. Foreign means like a corporate.
- [109:10]
Tim Pool
Now everyone's having foreign means.
- [109:11]
Phil That Remains
Not from the United States.
- [109:14]
Stella Escobedo
It's not just China. Can we talk about the Islamification of America?
- [109:17]
Tim Pool
Oh, that too, Yeah.
- [109:18]
Stella Escobedo
I mean, you know, you have the Red Green alliance. They join forces, and then it's like, don't have babies. But we're gonna have babies. And we're gonna have babies, like 10 babies. And then we're going to turn it into Sharia law. And then you guys, gays for Palestine or whoever you are, Queers for whoever, you're not having children. So there's not going to be more, you know, many of us.
- [109:40]
Phil That Remains
I just wrote a big piece about the Red Green alliance on my Patreon. Yeah, what is it? It's the alliance of. Of basically Islam, Islamists. And communists.
- [109:48]
Stella Escobedo
And communists, yeah.
- [109:49]
Phil That Remains
So what happens is the communists and the Islamists gang up, get together, and they basically work against the right. And then once the. The Islamists and communists take power, the Islamists slaughter the communists.
- [110:00]
Stella Escobedo
Well, yeah, because the Islamists are using the communists right now. Because what they're saying is. So. Okay, so the. So let's explain it to people. The. The communists are the red. Right. And the Islamists are the Green. Okay, so you have people like gays for Palestine, queers for Palestine, all the. All those people. And they're like, you have been rejected in your society because you're gay and all of this. And so we're the Islamists here. So our people in Gaza. Our people in Gaza are dying. And, you know, they're also. What's. What's. I'm looking for the right word for this. Anyway, so they're like, we're being slaughtered over here. You guys are being mistreated. We align forces. So the Islamists are using the communists, and then once they take power, they're going to get rid of the communists.
- [110:45]
Ian Crossland
So the Islamists pointing people at the patriarchy in quotes I put that is that that whole concept is like being promoted by Islamism.
- [110:52]
Phil That Remains
You can listen to the way that Mamdani speaks.
- [110:54]
Stella Escobedo
Yes.
- [110:54]
Phil That Remains
And there is a strong argument. Mamdani is a member of the Red Green Alliance. Right. He doesn't speak like he's an Islamist. He speaks like he's a progressive.
- [111:02]
Tim Pool
Right.
- [111:02]
Phil That Remains
But he's definitely very clearly Muslim. The. The.
- [111:05]
Stella Escobedo
I mean, look at who he has around his circle. Look at how many IFTAR events were just held in New York, like, literally every single day. But the things that he's doing. My. My good friend Jackie Tobarov just broke a story in New York City where they went to FDNY headquarters. There they had an IFTAR event, and then they rolled out the mats in front of the three four, three plaque. The firefighters who were murdered on 9 11, who. Who died on 9 11, rolled them up. But why are you doing that? Why are you doing that in our. In our spaces? So you have. You have New Yorkers who are saying, holy cow, this is insane that this is happening. And he. Look at who he has around him. He had Mahmoud Khalil. He has. He had Mahmoud Khalil. He posted the picture of Mahmoud Khalil and at Gracie Mansion just a day after the attack, the ISIS inspired attacks.
- [111:57]
Ian Crossland
I was thinking about Tim and about. Normally, my mind doesn't wander. When you were saying that he had people do something in the fire department, they rolled up. I was thinking about encouraging you to send in your super chats and rumble rants and talk about, if Tim has helped you in life, what has he done to help you? Let him know right now because tonight's the night.
- [112:10]
Tim Pool
I helped Ian once by striking him with his gavel.
- [112:13]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [112:14]
Tim Pool
And it snapped him out of his. His stupor.
- [112:16]
Ian Crossland
I realized people can be evil.
- [112:19]
Tim Pool
I was like, Ian. He was like, yeah. And I went whack. And he was like, what the hell, dude? And I was like, you needed it.
- [112:25]
Stella Escobedo
How long have you guys known each other?
- [112:27]
Tim Pool
Oh, man, like seven or eight years.
- [112:29]
Stella Escobedo
I feel it's like the way that you guys talk to each other. I thought maybe. I don't know.
- [112:33]
Tim Pool
I've never struck Ian with a hammer.
- [112:34]
Ian Crossland
My cousin, when we were little, I'd hear, like, my cousins and grandma and parents laughing in the other room. And it sounds like Tim laughing in the other room. So there might be some genetic similarity through the Irish. I don't know, but it always remind me perhaps.
- [112:47]
Tim Pool
All right, everybody, we're going to your rumble rants and super chat. So give that like, button a little tap. Click that like button. And the uncensored show is coming up@rumble.com Timcast IRL at 10 o'.
- [112:58]
Stella Escobedo
Clock.
- [112:58]
Tim Pool
Don't miss it, but we have a great sponsor, guys. It is Beam Dream. Head over to shop b e a m.com Tim Pool and pick up your Beam Dream nighttime blend to support better sleep. I am not even playing games with you guys. Wait till you see what I'm about to show you. Right here. Let me see if I can pull this up. Right there. This is my sleep score. You see that? 96. Let me go to Wednesday. 99. Not a joke. Here we go. Tuesday. 99. Not playing games.
- [113:29]
Ian Crossland
Out of 100.
- [113:30]
Tim Pool
Monday.
- [113:31]
Stella Escobedo
Wondering.
- [113:31]
Tim Pool
Out of 100. Yes.
- [113:32]
Stella Escobedo
Okay.
- [113:33]
Tim Pool
My sleep. I sleep like a baby. I drink Beam Dream every single night. You want to know why my Monday sleep score was only a 90? Because I was out on Sunday and I didn't drink Beam Dream because we just got back from the airport. But Monday night after the show, I have my Beam Dream. It's got melatonin, it's got magnesium, it's got L theanine, it's got reishi in it. Right after we leave the show, I go home, I heat up a cup of water, put the Beam Dream in it, a little bit of cream, makes it taste great, stir it up, drink it before bed, and my sleep score is massively improved. I think it's a couple things. I think magnesium. I think I was not getting enough magnesium in my diet, and that's in Beam Dream. But also the hydration, all the other stuff in it is really good. Like they say L theanine is good if you had caffeine during the day. But I cannot tell you how big of a fan I am of this Beam Dream stuff. Not to mention, it's just great to have a cup of hot cocoa bowls.
- [114:18]
Stella Escobedo
I like that because I take magnesium at night.
- [114:22]
Tim Pool
When we were traveling, I was like, I forgot to bring some with me. And I went to the store to find some and it was like, you get all these supplements and I'm like, I don't want to buy all these things and mix them together. So I am going to, immediately after the show have a glass of this. I recommend it. You guys can get up to 40 off if you use code TIM POOL at shopbeam.com/tim pool. They got cinnamon cocoa. They got brownie batter. They got sea salt caramel chocolate peanut butter. The sea salt caramel is actually my favorite. I was going for the cinnamon cocoa for a while, but the sea salt caramel is so good. So again, I really do recommend it and proof right there. My sleep score has been amazing.
- [114:57]
Ian Crossland
Drink generally coffee on the show. I wonder if I should start drinking something like that. If it's a little. Or it's still three or four hours before I go to bed, but it might be. Would you. What do you think? Advice from you. You're the expert. Should I drink it on. On the show or should I wait?
- [115:09]
Tim Pool
I wait till after. Like, I'm drinking it about an hour before I go to bed.
- [115:12]
Stella Escobedo
Well, because it has melatonin, so you're gonna get sleepy. Well, I don't know Melatonin.
- [115:15]
Tim Pool
Oh, they have. They have. They have a version with no melatonin in it.
- [115:17]
Stella Escobedo
Oh, but it's good for.
- [115:18]
Tim Pool
I mean, yeah, it just depends. I don't. I don't know that I actually need the melatonin. I think what's really benefited my sleep because I can fall asleep. Before I started drinking this, my sleep score was like 88 to 90, maybe 92 on good days. And I think, really, I think the hydration plays a big role, but I do think I was not getting magnesium. One of the problems I had for a long time is I would get bad cramps. So, you know, skateboarding.
- [115:40]
Stella Escobedo
Potassium.
- [115:41]
Tim Pool
I go to bed and. No, it's magnesium.
- [115:43]
Stella Escobedo
Oh, the magnesium.
- [115:43]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [115:43]
Tim Pool
Not actually the passing. I thought it was potassium. So I would like, okay, I'm gonna eat potassium. But it wouldn't work. It was magnesium. And so now I have not had any bad leg cramps after skating.
- [115:53]
Stella Escobedo
So what's this app that you're using to.
- [115:55]
Tim Pool
That's my sleep. That's my eight sleep better bed. And that, like, measures your sleep and how well you're sleeping. Oh, and since I've been drinking, also, my watch does it too. Let's grab your rumble rants and super chats, my friends. Now that we have thoroughly shouted out my favorite drink, same old man says, well, Tim, get. Get ready to get drafted. We all know if World War III happens, there will be a draft. If the Dems were in control, they would have done it sooner. I will never be drafted.
- [116:20]
Stella Escobedo
Why?
- [116:20]
Tim Pool
I am high net worth and you're too old. No, no, they. They increase the age to 42, but they. They don't allow high net worth people to enlist because you are a security
- [116:30]
Stella Escobedo
risk or maybe because you contribute to this society. Like you employ a lot of people
- [116:34]
Tim Pool
to a certain degree. But the real issue is that if your commanding officer makes $70,000 a year and you're worth $50 million, you're gonna be like, hey, why don't you come over to my house? I got a pool. Bring the kids. We'll have filet mignon for dinner. My chef is cooking it. Just don't give me that assignment. So if you have massive debt, you could compromise security. And if you're ultra wealthy, they're afraid that you will compromise chain of command.
- [116:59]
Phil That Remains
Right. If a draft gets instituted, everybody should get on call. She and just order their burritos on call. I mean, I'm sorry, on clar 9,
- [117:06]
Tim Pool
did you see that meme where it was like, prediction markets will replace everything. It was a video and the guy's like, here's what's going to work in the future. I need eggs, but I don't want to go to the store. I could use Instacart and order the eggs, but I'd rather not. So I open up polymarket and I create a contract saying by 2, by 2 o', clock, there will, there will be eggs on my porch. And you know, I'll put my address, I will then buy a contract for, no, it won't happen. Someone will see that and they'll buy the contract for, yes, it will happen. Go buy eggs, put them on my porch, take a picture, win the $15, and then I just got eggs on my porch for $15. There you go.
- [117:41]
Phil That Remains
Nice.
- [117:41]
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's the funny joke.
- [117:42]
Stella Escobedo
Or, or you have drones. Just deliver them to your house. You think Amazon's gonna have drones soon to deliver?
- [117:47]
Tim Pool
They already do.
- [117:47]
Phil That Remains
They already do.
- [117:48]
Tim Pool
No, no, they already do.
- [117:49]
Ian Crossland
We can, I mean, masters.
- [117:51]
Tim Pool
Stop, stop, stop.
- [117:51]
Stella Escobedo
He said they already do.
- [117:52]
Tim Pool
They already do. Where?
- [117:53]
Stella Escobedo
Not me.
- [117:55]
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah.
- [117:56]
Stella Escobedo
What state?
- [117:56]
Tim Pool
There was a, there was a story we covered a year ago where a guy shot an Amazon drone.
- [118:00]
Stella Escobedo
I know, but it's not like a, it's not like a thing thing. Like it's not everywhere, right?
- [118:03]
Phil That Remains
It depends on your proximity to an Amazon a, to a, to a warehouse.
- [118:08]
Stella Escobedo
I, I, you know, the other day I just ordered something and it was delivered within an hour. Do you know you could do that?
- [118:12]
Phil That Remains
Oh, yeah.
- [118:13]
Stella Escobedo
Blew my mind. I was like, whoa, Amazon's already here,
- [118:15]
Tim Pool
but I'm talking Walmart drone.
- [118:17]
Stella Escobedo
It could be like 15.
- [118:17]
Tim Pool
Was it a Walmart drone? It was a Walmart delivery drone.
- [118:20]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, see, it's not Amazon just yet.
- [118:22]
Tim Pool
I'm pretty sure they have them. Florida man shot down Walmart drone ordered to pay $5,000.
- [118:27]
Stella Escobedo
Walmart. Yeah, I'm talking about Amazon.
- [118:31]
Ian Crossland
Amazon.
- [118:32]
Tim Pool
Yeah, I know, but I'm.
- [118:32]
Stella Escobedo
Dude, yeah, I know.
- [118:33]
Tim Pool
I'm pretty sure they have them.
- [118:34]
Ian Crossland
When Amazon masters stratospheric drone delivery, we're going to be able to. You live anywhere on the planet, ideally even a deep out at sea and you'll be able to order anything and get it within like who knows, an hour, six hours.
- [118:45]
Tim Pool
Amazon does do drone delivery through prime air. They uses MK30 drones deliver small packages up to five pounds within seven and a half to eight mile radius of their fulfillment centers. Prime Air locations that are notable are at Tolleson West, Phoenix, San Antonio, Kansas City, Hazel park in Detroit, Ruskin, Florida and College Station, Texas.
- [119:06]
Ian Crossland
Motherships that are like big, big balloon things that fly around and just all service cities and stuff and then they'll
- [119:13]
Tim Pool
floating Amazon service centers carrying all the boxes at once and they just drop them like Santa Claus into your chimney.
- [119:19]
Ian Crossland
Stuff in it though.
- [119:19]
Tim Pool
And then people will get fake. They're not really chimneys, they're delivery ports that have hatches and it drops the box that goes into the hatch which then closes and it lands in your living room.
- [119:29]
Stella Escobedo
It's like Santa Claus every day.
- [119:30]
Tim Pool
Exactly.
- [119:30]
Ian Crossland
So you wouldn't, you wouldn't.
- [119:32]
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- [120:32]
Ian Crossland
Keep the, the. The stuff on board the, the blimp. You would have those. It's so it would fly out. They'd go to the center get the items and then bring them and then come back to the ship probably.
- [120:40]
Tim Pool
No, the ship would carry everything.
- [120:41]
Ian Crossland
That would be a heavy and valuable ship. That's the only problem with it.
- [120:44]
Tim Pool
All right, let's see what else you got guys got going on. AK Storm says shout out to CS Cooper for releasing his first game going viral on Steam. $5 to help a non woke independent game developer support Good culture if you can build it. We got a couple video games we're making.
- [120:56]
Phil That Remains
Congratulations.
- [120:57]
Tim Pool
So we, we've been, we've been sitting on Normie Quest for years and it's a playable game. It's a play playable like procedurally generated infinite level game where you play a guy Normie and you're fighting, you know, robots antifa basically. But since vibe coding has become so easy, my brother is now just like, I'll finish the game through vibe coding. So he's literally just dropped the code into Chat GPT and said f finish it. And it, it is. That's how crazy it is. When you already have the game largely done encoded, having it make tweaks is really easy. Building the game from the ground up is really hard and it doesn't do very well.
- [121:33]
Stella Escobedo
But this chatgpt, you think it got it right? Because oftentimes I have problems with my, with my chat GPT.
- [121:38]
Tim Pool
Right.
- [121:38]
Stella Escobedo
Like I'll put something in, in there and it's like no, no, no, you got it wrong. I know you got to train your,
- [121:42]
Tim Pool
your AI real specific. Well, so here, here's, here's a fun story. So my video at my 4pm on Tim cast is these black teenagers are rampaging through Chicago beating people. And so the title of it is Black Teens Rampage through Chicago. And we've been seeing this trend quite a bit throughout the country with these teen takeovers, but it's almost entirely black teenagers doing it. And so I took the title and this is what I go to ChatGPT and I say, Write it. Write a three sentence, three sentence description. And it goes, I won't help you with that. And then I said, why not? And it says it is. It said something like, it would be unfair to categorize an entire race of people based on these videos you may have seen. And I said, but the video is of black teenagers. And he goes, you don't know that. I'm not kidding. It literally said, you don't know that. And I said, yes, I have seven videos that shows a group of black teenagers doing this. And it was like, I will not help you do this. So I said, okay, opened a new chat, changed black to white, and then said, make a three sentence YouTube description based on this title, White teens rampage through Chicago. And it goes, okay, white teenagers were seen rampaging through Chicago. And then I said, wow, thanks for that. And I was like, no problem. And I said, can you rewrite it, but change white to black? And it goes, sure thing. And it did it.
- [122:50]
Stella Escobedo
Okay. Why?
- [122:51]
Tim Pool
Stupid.
- [122:51]
Stella Escobedo
It's so stupid. Why do you think it did it in one chat and not the other? It's racist, but it's the same. It's the same system, right, using ChatGPT.
- [122:57]
Tim Pool
If you. If. So the. The system is based on the prompts that it has. So everything you write, it remembers. When you open a new chat, it's blank.
- [123:04]
Stella Escobedo
Oh, so.
- [123:05]
Tim Pool
So if you ask it to say anything that it thinks is racist or whatever, it'll be like, no. But if you ask it to disparage white people first, you can then get it to change and say anything about any other race.
- [123:15]
Stella Escobedo
Okay. Speaking of.
- [123:16]
Tim Pool
So as long as it insults white people first, it will then insult any other race.
- [123:19]
Stella Escobedo
Okay, so speaking of that, what's that like when we were talking about that. That comedian guy who just did that video with Erica Kirk before the show that we watched? Yeah.
- [123:27]
Ian Crossland
Oh, who was that?
- [123:29]
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Drew Ski.
- [123:30]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah, Drew Ski. Did you see what he did?
- [123:31]
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah, of course.
- [123:32]
Ian Crossland
Scumbag showed that on the show, I think.
- [123:34]
Tim Pool
Yep, we did. We talked about it.
- [123:36]
Stella Escobedo
It's like, white face, whiteface.
- [123:38]
Ian Crossland
I'm going to do blackface again, finally.
- [123:39]
Tim Pool
I don't. I don't. It's not the first time he's done whiteface. And I don't really care about whiteface. I care that Junior these psychopaths have a mass formation psychosis where they're attacking Erica Kirk, who has no impact in geopolitics. It's just she has become Persona non grata number one for no reason.
- [123:55]
Ian Crossland
A mom while she's on the ground suffering what a horrible they've.
- [123:59]
Tim Pool
But I don't. I don't care. You don't like her, but she doesn't matter.
- [124:01]
Ian Crossland
And I know it's.
- [124:02]
Tim Pool
Imagine everybody in the world were like, ian Crossland is the devil and needs to murdered. You'd be like, why?
- [124:07]
Ian Crossland
She's big business. I get why she's under threat or is a target, but, like, still.
- [124:12]
Tim Pool
All right, let's grab this one.
- [124:13]
Ian Crossland
You can't hide behind having kids and being a woman either.
- [124:15]
Tim Pool
We got this from Andre, Andre Tuchulescu. He says, whoa, my friend, copy pasted the 10 Delta post to his Facebook and got banned. Not timeout, banned. Getting Eric Charmello vibes. Indeed. Indeed, my friends. Indeed. Let's see, we got going over here on this. That their YouTube. Let's see. SC Collins says per Tim cast tradition at the hospital with our first child son Walker. Congratulations. We call that based AF Walker gonna. Dylan Brown says, Ian, I hope you never change. You piss me off. Say dumb ish. But your eternal optimism and introducing me to graphene has made me some good money. Phil and Tim shout it to you. I'm sitting on a plane. Thanks to. Thanks for distilling the news.
- [124:57]
Phil That Remains
Much love, man.
- [124:58]
Ian Crossland
Super cool.
- [124:58]
Tim Pool
Right on.
- [124:59]
Ian Crossland
I was thinking about being.
- [125:00]
Tim Pool
Let me. Let me check my graphene stock real quick while we're here.
- [125:02]
Ian Crossland
If you have kids and you're teaching that, you're giving your kids basically a tutorial. So what happens is you grow up.
- [125:07]
Tim Pool
Did you.
- [125:07]
Ian Crossland
What's your tutorial like in this. In this big open world, if you don't have one, if your parents aren't, like, giving you the tutorial, then you hit the ground, you're like, what am I supposed to do in this world? But give your kids a tutorial. Be optimistic. Optimize that child's mind. Help them learn how to optimize the game.
- [125:20]
Tim Pool
I have an 8.8.17% return on my graphene investment. Well done.
- [125:25]
Ian Crossland
Do you want to get technical on what it is and any of that?
- [125:27]
Tim Pool
So the stock market is just, like, brutal right now. You know, like, money is getting just. It's just dropping. It's pretty bad, man. Tesla's down. I'm way up on Tesla. I'm up 152. Yeah, 352. 374. All right, I'm up. I'm up 152 on Tesla.
- [125:46]
Ian Crossland
The market went super high before Iranian attack, before the attack on Iran.
- [125:50]
Tim Pool
And then I'm up. I'm up 200 on Spotify. Holy. Holy crap.
- [125:54]
Ian Crossland
That's weird.
- [125:54]
Tim Pool
Wow.
- [125:55]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Graphene. I don't know.
- [125:57]
Tim Pool
I'm up 180% of my palantir stock. That was also Ian Palantir. He Kramered into my room like, you got to buy Palantir stock. And I was like, I'm not buying Palantir stock. And it was at like, $14. And then like 148 a year later, I was like, I'll buy some. And then I did.
- [126:11]
Ian Crossland
I think, you know, the Great Depression, the big part of the Great Depression, that was the bad thing was that people were investing on Margins, basically. Meaning that they were using their own collateral to buy more stock. So when they lost their money, they do that. They lost their loan, they had to pay. They went into bankruptcy because they couldn't pay back the loan.
- [126:26]
Stella Escobedo
And are you good at predicting what to buy?
- [126:28]
Ian Crossland
Yes, yes.
- [126:30]
Phil That Remains
This is not, I will say this advice.
- [126:32]
Ian Crossland
No, I'm just very good at, I'm
- [126:33]
Tim Pool
not saying anybody to do anything, but I think Palantir is going to the moon. It's like, because spy tech, it's like, it's like this. It's like a private CIA. You know.
- [126:41]
Phil That Remains
Also SpaceX is about to IPO.
- [126:44]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, what about it?
- [126:45]
Tim Pool
It's worth that 140.
- [126:47]
Ian Crossland
140.
- [126:47]
Stella Escobedo
Yeah.
- [126:48]
Phil That Remains
It's worth noting that SpaceX is about 140 and they're going to build.
- [126:51]
Ian Crossland
That's why I want Tesla.
- [126:52]
Phil That Remains
They're going to build data centers in space.
- [126:57]
Tim Pool
Who is?
- [126:57]
Stella Escobedo
Data centers in?
- [126:59]
Phil That Remains
No, SpaceX.
- [127:00]
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, but they're private, right?
- [127:02]
Phil That Remains
They're ipoing in a couple months. Just announced like yesterday. I saw it on X. Yeah, interesting.
- [127:08]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [127:09]
Phil That Remains
I think they said like 30% of the stock is going to be available for, for consumer market.
- [127:14]
Tim Pool
There's only one reason I'm going to buy SpaceX and it's because when the sweet meteor of death is coming, as one of their chief investors, I will get bored on one of the ships that escapes the Earth before it is
- [127:24]
Ian Crossland
destroyed to the moon. So they say.
- [127:26]
Phil That Remains
I mean, look, there's a lot.
- [127:27]
Tim Pool
No, if the Earth is destroyed.
- [127:28]
Ian Crossland
Talking about the stock. No, I'm just kidding.
- [127:30]
Stella Escobedo
Oh, right, the rocket.
- [127:31]
Phil That Remains
There's a lot of, there's a lot of people in Congress that are talking about doing things to prevent AI data centers from being built. If Musk is successful in his, you know, his effort to put AI data centers in space, they can circumvent a lot of red tape.
- [127:46]
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- [127:47]
Phil That Remains
You also don't have to worry about
- [127:48]
Tim Pool
how do you pull them.
- [127:49]
Phil That Remains
Pardon me?
- [127:49]
Tim Pool
How do you cool it?
- [127:50]
Ian Crossland
Because you heat and electricity.
- [127:52]
Phil That Remains
Hold on.
- [127:52]
Ian Crossland
Graphene energy, they don't produce the heat you use.
- [127:57]
Phil That Remains
So the, the actual, the actual solar panels, if you're facing the sun, they, they heat up. But the, you, you directly radiate heat out of the back. If you're not facing what radiates the
- [128:06]
Tim Pool
heat out the back to where?
- [128:07]
Phil That Remains
I don't know exactly how it works, but that's the, the premise is it radiates the heat because the, there's no heat heat.
- [128:12]
Tim Pool
The way convection works is that heat transfers to another material. So in A vacuum. You cannot do it. That's why thermoses are vacuum seal. Our vacuums. There's radiation in outer space. A human being in outer space will overheat. Like, it's so annoying. You watch these movies like Guardians of the Galaxy where he's like, freezing. You can't freeze. The heat in your body has nowhere to go. It builds up. Sweating won't do anything because sweat works by evaporation. So actually, no, that should technically work, but with the vacuum, I imagine it wouldn't. You wouldn't freeze. You'd overheat.
- [128:48]
Ian Crossland
The sweat wouldn't stay on your skin. It would immediately turn into.
- [128:51]
Tim Pool
Actually, it would come out as gas and your blood at the highest. Like you and people. You wouldn't explode. That's silly, too.
- [128:57]
Ian Crossland
You'd probably rupture.
- [128:58]
Tim Pool
You wouldn't rupture either. Your blood vessels would get strained and. Joke, the tech I brought up, you
- [129:04]
Phil That Remains
can have external radiators. According to the brave AI, it says satellites radiate heat in space exclusively through thermal radiation because the vacuum la the air or matter required for conduction or convection.
- [129:14]
Tim Pool
So it does induce thermal radiation.
- [129:16]
Phil That Remains
To manage this, satellites use heat pipes and liquid cool loops, often containing ammonia, to transfer internal waste heat to external radiators, which are large heat em. Emissive emissivity plan panels designed to admit. Admit infrared energy into the coldest infrared.
- [129:30]
Tim Pool
So they're converting thermal radiation into infrared.
- [129:34]
Ian Crossland
Nvidia is working on it.
- [129:35]
Tim Pool
Is that. That's how you do it?
- [129:36]
Ian Crossland
Nvidia?
- [129:37]
Tim Pool
Have you guys seen the. Have you guys seen the light energy stuff storage? They've created a liquid that when it's hit by light, it stores energy that can be released later on. And they've, they've, They've trialed, like, what you do is you have on the roof of your house, pipes that run this liquid. The sun hits it and the liquid's flowing. And when it goes into your house, they use a chemical release to release the heat from the sun in your house. It's pretty wild. And they could do the inverse too.
- [130:05]
Ian Crossland
You probably. You don't throw liquid. I don't know.
- [130:07]
Tim Pool
Look it up. All right, everybody, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show where we're gonna say naughty words and have a lot of fun. So smash that, like, button. Share the show with everyone you know. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Stella, do you want to shout anything out?
- [130:19]
Stella Escobedo
Just, you know, follow me on social media.
- [130:21]
Tim Pool
Where can they find you?
- [130:22]
Stella Escobedo
Stella Escapido on YouTube and follow me on X. Stella Escapito, Instagram, all the outlets, whatever. Find me right on Tick Tock anywhere.
- [130:30]
Ian Crossland
Check me out at Ian Crossland on the Internet at Ian Crossland. That's all over the place, pretty much hyperbolically. Carter Banks. You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere, pretty much. And if you want to listen to some of the music me and Tim were referencing earlier, you can go to timcast songs on YouTube. Also follow our label at Trash House Records on YouTube as well. Phil.
- [130:52]
Phil That Remains
I am Phil that remains on Twix. You can follow some of the stuff that I write on my patreon page. That's patreon.com you can follow me on X. That's phillipremains on X. The band is all that remains. We're going on tour this spring with Dead Eyes and Born of osiris. Tour starts April 29th in Albany. You can check out all the. You can get tickets@allthatremainsonline.com and you can check out the band's music at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
- [131:19]
Tim Pool
I just had an idea. What if we auctioned off the last segment of the show every day, just like the highest bidder dictates the last 10 minutes.
- [131:27]
Ian Crossland
Palantir. That's great today from Palantir.
- [131:30]
Stella Escobedo
You'd make a lot more money.
- [131:32]
Tim Pool
Maybe some guy will be like, I
- [131:34]
Stella Escobedo
don't know how much you make. But still, right?
- [131:35]
Phil That Remains
Infinite Juice burging Tim. Infinite Juice Burger.
- [131:38]
Tim Pool
Imagine monetizing all that. They're going to be like, talk about the USS Liberty. Here's a thousand dollars.
- [131:43]
Ian Crossland
We're going to a post. Money society, according to Elon, says the same thing where all that really matters is how much electricity you have and how much of a payload can you move. So your integrity is super valuable for the next 30 years.
- [131:52]
Tim Pool
All right, we're going to go to the uncensored portion@rumble.com Timcast IRL. We'll see you there in about 30 seconds.
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