Democrat ACTBLUE In CHAOS, Theories Over DOGE Cutting SLUSH FUND Go Wild w/Hotep Jesus

Summary

Timcast IRL Podcast Summary

Episode Title: Democrat ACTBLUE In CHAOS, Theories Over DOGE Cutting SLUSH FUND Go Wild w/Hotep Jesus
Release Date: March 8, 2025
Host/Authors: Timcast Media (Tim Pool, Brett Dasovic, Mary, Phil Labonte)
Guest: Hotep Jesus

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1. Introduction

The episode kicks off with Tim Pool expressing anticipation for significant changes in his life, transitioning seamlessly into discussions about various political and cultural issues. The primary focus centers on the turmoil within ACTBLUE, the Democratic fundraising powerhouse, and the concurrent theories surrounding DOGE's alleged financial maneuvers.

2. ACTBLUE’s Internal Chaos and Financial Scrutiny

Brett Dasovic delves into the recent upheaval within ACTBLUE, highlighting the departure of seven senior officials over the past three weeks. This exodus has raised suspicions about the organization's stability and potential underlying financial misconduct.

• Notable Quote:
  [07:28] Brett Dasovic: "ACT Blue, the Democratic fundraising powerhouse, faces internal chaos. At least seven senior officials have left the group, setting off deep concerns about its future as it confronts scrutiny from congressional Republicans."

The discussion extends to allegations of fraudulent donations, particularly involving elderly Democrats who purportedly made substantial contributions they couldn't have feasibly managed themselves. Brett references investigations by figures like James O'Keefe, suggesting possible money laundering schemes funneling funds into Democratic pockets.

• Notable Quote:
  [13:32] Brett Dasovic: "If you've got a man signing a sworn affidavit, I did not make these donations, then you've got money laundering going on and that's a fact."

3. DOGE's Financial Strategies and Slush Funds

Simultaneously, Brett discusses DOGE's role in cutting slush funds, insinuating that these funds may have been siphoned to NGOs and potentially influencing Democratic politicians. The timing of DOGE's actions alongside ACTBLUE's turmoil fuels widespread speculation, though Brett remains cautious, emphasizing that these theories are yet to be substantiated.

4. Immigration Policies and AOC’s Controversy

The conversation shifts to immigration, focusing on a recent incident involving AOC allegedly employing an illegal immigrant who later self-deported to Colombia. This situation underscores the broader debate on immigration enforcement and Democratic policies under the Trump administration.

• Notable Quote:
  [08:58] Brett Dasovic: "We have to ask, why don't you just apologize? But the left is going to immediately bombard and go after those channels."

5. Media Censorship and Platform Dynamics

Tim Pool and Brett Dasovic explore the evolving landscape of media censorship, particularly on platforms like YouTube. They predict a wave of bans targeting conservative and anti-establishment podcasters who violate advertising regulations, such as promoting pharmaceutical products without proper disclosures.

• Notable Quote:
  [28:16] Tim Pool: "That's exactly what's going to happen. I've been saying on my podcast, the Griff Report, the Democrat recovery program is built into the right wing."

The discussion emphasizes the strategic suppression of right-wing narratives through platform policies, potentially weakening Republican influence during critical election periods.

6. Pop Culture and "Wokeness" in Media

A significant portion of the episode critiques the infiltration of "woke" politics into mainstream media and entertainment. The hosts express frustration with how political correctness and identity politics are altering video games, television shows, and movies, leading to diminished audience engagement and financial failures.

• Notable Quote:
  [82:07] Brett Dasovic: "Every movie now is just, it's woke stuff. It's a terrible compromise of storytelling and entertainment."

They cite examples like the underperformance of certain AAA games and the backlash against female-led narratives in established franchises, arguing that forced political agendas are alienating core audiences.

7. Strategies for Independent Media Survival

In response to increasing censorship and shifting media landscapes, the hosts advocate for leveraging alternative platforms like Rumble. Tim Pool underscores the importance of building and migrating content to less restrictive environments to maintain audience reach and content freedom.

• Notable Quote:
  [31:35] Tim Pool: "You'll either get nuked by YouTube or get shadow banned and monetization disabled. It's strict surveillance on the YouTube platform."

8. Political Realignment and Democratic Party Evolution

The episode analyzes the Democratic Party's internal struggles, highlighting the lack of clear leadership and shifting priorities away from traditional working-class support. The hosts hypothesize that this disarray could lead to a more centrist or moderate Democratic stance, potentially weakening the party's base ahead of midterm and future elections.

• Notable Quote:
  [16:35] Phil Labonte: "The Democrats don't have a platform anymore. They have no leadership because they don't know what their platform is anymore."

9. Conclusion and Future Outlook

Wrapping up, the hosts emphasize the critical need for independent media to resist censorship and adapt to changing political climates. They encourage listeners to engage with alternative platforms, support independent creators, and remain vigilant against perceived political manipulation within mainstream media.

• Notable Quote:
  [31:35] Tim Pool: "But YouTube will start nuking some massive channels … poor choices right before the midterms or right before 2028."

Final Thoughts:
This episode of Timcast IRL presents a robust critique of the Democratic Party's fundraising mechanisms, media censorship, and the pervasive influence of "wokeness" in entertainment. Through detailed analysis and strategic insights, the hosts advocate for media independence and political accountability, offering a distinctive perspective on contemporary political and cultural dynamics.

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Keywords: Timcast IRL, ACTBLUE, Democratic Party, James O'Keefe, money laundering, DOGE, immigration, AOC, media censorship, YouTube bans, Rumble, woke politics, independent media, Democratic realignment, pop culture.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

I'm ready for my life to change.

[Brett Dasovic]

ABC Sunday, American Idol returns.

[Mary]

Give it your all.

[Brett Dasovic]

Good luck. Come out with a golden ticket.

[Tim Pool]

Let's hear it.

[Brett Dasovic]

This is immense world.

[Tim Pool]

I've never seen anything like it.

[Brett Dasovic]

And a new chapter begins.

[Phil Labonte]

You're going to Hollywood.

[Brett Dasovic]

Carrie Underwood joins Lionel Richie, Luke Bryant and Ryan Seacrest on American Idol. Season premieres Sunday, 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu. So the Zelon must guy, right? He sends in these Doge fellers into USAID and other government agencies and starts gutting the funding for what seems to go to a lot of these weird NGOs. We speculate much of this funding was probably circulating in Loudoun county and just outside in D.C. and Maryland. Then we get this other really big story. Lee Zelda, now in the EPA, says they've uncovered a $375 billion slush fund run by John Podesta. This is a Democrat guy. And that there were some nonprofits that just got started within a month. One month later, they received a $7 billion grant from the government. They've since frozen this money. At the same time, there are searches all over D.C. for criminal lawyer fraud. And I'll be light here, but let's just call it self harm. People are deeply worried in this, in these areas for some reason. A big story popped up yesterday, Act Blue, the subject of, let's just say, scrutiny among Republicans and investigators, people like James O'Keefe. Act Blue is the fundraising machine for Democrats. James O'Keefe uncovered over the past several years instances where elderly individuals had reportedly made hundreds of thousands of donations they couldn't possibly have made. Questions arose around how is it that ActBlue was claiming these things are legitimate, actually facilitating these payments? I mean, some retiree couldn't have spent $700,000 in one year doing 17 donations per day. That makes no sense. Now, we don't know exactly what's going on. We, we are waiting for the, the results of that investigation. In the meantime, while all of this Doge stuff is happening, it may just be totally unrelated, but the New York Times runs a story about how ActBlue is facing an in, is facing internal chaos, and is struggling to continue losing several seven specifically top officials. Instantly, the Internet erupts with theories that this money, these slush funds that were making these weird donations, were effectively running a circuitous money laundering scheme, which, let's just say somehow found its way into the pockets of the Act Blue system to Democrat politicians. I am not saying that's true. I'm not Saying we know for sure. I'm saying basically that's the degree of speculation we're seeing. Cuz all of this is going on at the same time. I think that's important. Disclaimer. We're gonna take a look at this story and a bunch of other news stories and we got one that's really interesting. Apparently AOC had employed an illegal immigrant and they've since fled the country. So this is actually pretty interesting. And then you've got, you got a few other stories, but you have the big push from Ben Shapiro on the Daily Wire to get Derek Chauvin pardoned at the federal level. Trump has responded saying, I haven't heard this and that was it. Yet. Strangely, the media is running a narrative about Derek Chauvin despite the fact that Trump hasn't engaged with it. And they're claiming Trump has issued a verdict on whether he will or he won't, saying he wouldn't. But Trump never said anything. So we'll talk about that and a bunch of other stuff. My friends, before we get started, make sure you go to cast brew.com. buy delicious cast brew coffee. Where's Ian's Graphene Dream at right now? My God, he sold 500 bags of coffee this week. And you know what it is? It's because I just did that because I look at the number and I'm like, how did he sell 500 bags? And then people hear that and they're like, I better buy it before it runs out. I know, but legit Ian's graphene [e-mail] Ian's making bank. I'll just put it that way. You guys are putting him through college. You know, he needs it. But you can also check at Appalachian Nights, which, to be fair, sells comparably. Sells comparably. Actually, I'm pretty sure the Appalachian Knights is ahead of Ian's graphene. I think that's actually based on sales. So I think Appalachian Nights is probably still selling better than Graphene Dream. But I'm pretty sure Graphene Dream is going to overtake it very soon. Don't forget to also go to Rumble Premium. Go to rumble.com and use promo code TIM10 to sign up for Rumble Premium. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to talk about something. I had a conversation with Dr. Malone and Del Bigtree after we wrapped the culture War show this morning about the next big play that's going to hit the media in the next couple of years. And the gist of it was I outlined the tactics being employed right now and the errors being made on our side of the media battle that will ultimately end up with mass bannings and we'll get us shut down. So the people who think the free speech battle is over cuz Trump won because Mark Zuckerberg made these statements. I'm telling you you're wrong. And we'll get into this. We will. My response was Rumble has to win. So go to timcast premium.com it'll automatically redirect you to Rumble Premium to sign up. And we've got the Green Room podcast. We'll have an episode of that today. We've got the uncensored after hours show. If you watch Tim Cast Iron Rumble, you get the full show including a bonus half hour to 45 minutes where members call into the show and we're actually working on feature length documentaries and more. You'll also get access to Steven Carter's Mug club and a whole lot more. So we're definitely talk about this because guys, I, I, I, I made one simple statement to Dr. Malone and you know, he's the expert and he immediately said you are completely right and I don't understand why we're not seeing action. And I'm going to say that because I want to make sure I get the full context. I can't just. It's basically having to do with how these YouTubers are selling ads and when as it pertains to the fda. I think we're going to see a wave of bans come the next couple of years and we're going to talk about that on the show later on. We'll get to the main news first. Don't forget to also smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, if you do like the work we do, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. We got Hotep. Jesus.

[Tim Pool]

What's up bro? Thank you for having me, man. Grimace, March 29, you coming to the show? Shane Cashman is presenting. We got Milo. Is it in D.C. it's in, it's in Jersey. In Jersey Tips Comedy Club. We're having the Grifties. We're going to crown grifter of the year. We got Milo, we got Shane. We got Alex Stein. Alex Stein and Milo. So yeah, it's going to be a spicy one.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh boy. Maybe we have to be there. Yeah. The reason why say I, I, I, I'd say yes. But with the recent addition to my family, it's like basically I'm not even congrats man. I appreciate it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You got a little boy, right?

[Brett Dasovic]

Little girl.

[Tim Pool]

Little girl.

[Brett Dasovic]

So.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah. Allison's working very, very hard. And so I'm not, I'm not gonna go out and just.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

But we'll see what happens by then. I think maybe it's tough.

[Tim Pool]

It's tough when you have good work. Yeah, it's good. It's fun, though.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Cherish these years.

[Brett Dasovic]

Absolutely. Yeah, we're having fun. We, we, we just watched, we hung out on the couch today in between shows. Gotta stay there. And she was making gurgling sounds. It was, it was enjoyable.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Once they start moving and talking, it's not as fun, but.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, man, thanks for, for hanging out. It's gonna be fun. We got Brett hanging out, guys.

[Mary]

It is Brett. Normally on Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday at 3pm let's talk about politics.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Let's go.

[Brett Dasovic]

Here's the story from the New York Times. Act Blue, the Democratic fundraising powerhouse, faces internal chaos. At least seven senior officials have left the group, setting off deep concerns about its future as it confronts scrutiny from congressional Republicans. I'll say two things to start the first, there's a theory that with the gutting of USAID and other federal funds, a lot of these grants, especially the EPA slush fund that Lee Zeldin uncovered, a lot of this money is believed by many, whether or not there's any veracity of this, that it was funneling around NGOs and finding its way into the pockets of Democrat politicians. That may or may not be the case. At any rate, the other other thing to consider is definitively Act Blue, which is the Democrats fundraising arm, is in chaos, indicating a very, very, let's just put it this way, the likelihood that they're able to muster up any forces in the midterms is, is decreasing, especially when we're learning that the mechanism they use to raise money is under fire. And then I'll say this on Fox News today, it was, I believe, Cassie Hunt who asked Tim. I believe it was Tim Waltz. One of the best questions I've seen anybody ask the Democrats in recent memory. She said, who's the current leader of the Democratic Party? And you know what Walt said? The American voting public. And she made a face and I said, whoa. And then I stopped and thought about it. I want to ask you guys this right now and everybody listening. Who is the leader of the Democratic Party.

[Mary]

I think you asked that question like one or two times ago when I was here, and I had no idea. I think Hakeem Jeffries seems like the most reasonable. Like we were talking about how before.

[Brett Dasovic]

Hold on, I'm sorry, sorry, I got to pause you not. Who is projected to be literally right now. Like we know the head of the Republican Party is Donald Trump.

[Mary]

Well, even like, even before. Before Trump did his address to Congress. Right. And Hakeem Jeffries asked everyone, please don't bring props, Please don't bring. Bring props and make. And make a fool out of yourself on national television. And then they all went and did that. It's like he was the only person who had a sane thought in the matter.

[Brett Dasovic]

But so the question. I believe the answ. There isn't one.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Brett Dasovic]

And, and, and I disagree. You think there's a leader, really?

[Tim Pool]

Who Did Henry kissing just say is the perfect person to usher in the new world Order?

[Phil Labonte]

Don't know. Who.

[Tim Pool]

Barack Obama.

[Mary]

I think that's what I said. Honestly, that's what I said last night.

[Tim Pool]

Obama running the show now.

[Brett Dasovic]

And I'm going to disagree.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Brett Dasovic]

When Obama was president, it was not abject chaos. Things weren't falling apart. ActBlue wasn't crumbling. There was no mixed messaging. The Democrats obstructing the State of the Union. Not State of the Union was a gift to Republicans. So unless Obama's plan is, I'm going to make the Republicans more powerful, then he's not a leader of the Democrats. And if he actually is running the show, he's the poorest leader we've ever seen, which flies in the face of when he was actually president.

[Mary]

Isn't it weird how we. Oh, God.

[Brett Dasovic]

You can, you can argue he was.

[Tim Pool]

My, My theory is that they bombed the last election on purpose because I don't believe in two parties. I know it's a unit party. You can't pull the wool over my eyes. But my theory is that they are actually burning down the Democratic Party to make the right wing party stronger, to bring about a different type of fascism, maybe. And these sweeping changes and you're starting to see the technocracy, et cetera, et cetera.

[Brett Dasovic]

Let's. Let's read this tweet from Charlie Kirk. He says the New York Times reports that Act Blue is in turmoil. Mysteriously, seven top executives have all left in the past three weeks, several of whom had all been there more than a decade. None of them will explain on the record why they left. The last remaining lawyer at Act Blues general counsel's office has been locked out of his email and put on leave after sending internal messages that, quote, we have whistleblower policies for a reason. Two unions representing Act Blue employees are openly questioning the group's stability and call the situation alarming. They're demanding the hiring of an independent investigator. More than $16 billion has passed through Act Blue in the past 20 years. What could they possibly be hiding? Well, we've got a couple stories to give examples. We have this from October of 2024. Treasury finds hundreds of transactions linked to fundraising platform ActBlue flagged by banks GOP memo. Interesting, but I don't know what that. So then we have this from the Daily Signal. Where does the money come from? Elderly Democrats say donations made in the name aren't genuine from January 8, 2025. Now, this story actually goes back quite a bit when James O'Keefe exposed numerous instances where individuals were making some, what, five to 10 donations per day of 20 to $25 to the tune of hundreds of thousands for the year. That made no sense. The Daily Signal says 18 registered Democrats in Connecticut all over the age of 70, appear to have donated $1.9 million to Democratic causes, including Act Blue, through hundreds of thousands of small donations from 2016-24, according to a review of the F of FEC filings by Dominic Rapini, a cybersecurity company CEO and former Connecticut Republican candidate for office. Curious about the donation patterns, Rapini tracked down some of the Connecticut residents and asked them if they really did make thousands of small donations, sometimes multiple in a day, through Act Blue. Several of the supposed donors told Repeat they did not make any of the reported donations, nor did they know anything about how their names were being used. An 88 year old retired Yale University professor, for example, supposedly made 7,539 donations for a total of $213,163, according to FEC records. After Rapini informed him about the significant donations in his name, he signed an affidavit saying, quote, I believe this does not reflect my donation frequency or dollars I have donated. Now, I'll just say this. The story goes on. James O'Keefe uncovered something very similar, if not the exact same, but just in different places. Cash Patel and Pam Bondi. This should be their target right now. If you've got a man signing a sworn affidavit, I did not make these donations, then you've got money laundering going on and that's a fact.

[Mary]

Is there not a way for them federally to look into the bank accounts tied to who made the donation, because obviously the name is attached. But if the name attached doesn't correspond with the bank account, is there a way to check into that?

[Brett Dasovic]

I think maybe this is why act. Well, the theory is, and this is all just opinion, I have no idea. Act Blue is crumbling because with a new DOJ in town, namely a Cash Patel, the people that Act Blue are running as fast as they can. But you don't think so. You think it's one big machine.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I think some of the stuff you said is absolutely spot on. Right. So when we're dealing with the Democrats, there's going to be a lot of fall guys.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. A lot of people are gonna go down who had orders from somebody else, and Sharon, Lisa, Tanisha is gonna take the blame. We saw that happen in New Jersey. Was it New York? Some dude goes down for some scammy stuff that Democrats are doing with the votes, et cetera, et cetera. But at the end of the day, you know, I understand how the world works, okay. I understand how the Western empire works, okay. There is a pendulum that swings from left to right, okay? And we. And we've seen this time and time again throughout history, okay? The left has gotten way too strong. It's gotten way too out of hand. People are pushing back against the leftist style, you know, the trans stuff, all of that stuff. Right. So what happens? You swing things back to the right. Now, I saw this happening because you saw the media started to come in a little bit more centered. I don't know if you guys know that, but.

[Mary]

Well, even Jeff Bezos, he's getting the Washington Post to open up opinion columns about free markets, things like that. Even though the fact that Bezos and Zuckerberg have historically were going very much the other direction when the winds were blowing the other direction, Right.

[Tim Pool]

And then you got Zuckerberg coming out, he dressing like a rapper now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You can't fool me. So you start. And then all these guys are popping up, you know, next to Trump, et cetera, et cetera. So we're starting to see this swing to the right, and there's a lot of assistance that's happening from the Democratic Party to help that move along. You saw the canon J. Reid, Joy Ann Reid, I call her J. Reid. Got rid of her. Then they brought the new black lady in there. She's way more centered and, you know, makes more sense, is not so fringe. You got Stephen A. Smith. Stephen A. Smith is doing Contracts.

[Mary]

He's got a huge contract extension. Tension with the addition of allowing him to talk about politics.

[Phil Labonte]

You don't you think that the, the swing of the voters has, has an effect on this? Like, I feel like the, the results of the election, considering how many, how many counties went for Republicans versus how many went for, for Democrats, which is, I think, I think, I don't think they picked up any counties. I think the Republicans picked up something like 20 counties nationwide or something like that. And, you know, winning the House and winning the Senate, don't you think that that has an effect on, on why they're doing this?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but I mean, can you give the voters that much credit when you got a dead body as a president and an idiot as, as, as the person that ran and she didn't even, she didn't even get the votes to run. They just installed her, said, oh, you're gonna be the nominee. Like there was no.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, if it was, if it was something that it was.

[Tim Pool]

There was competition is my point. There was no competition. There was, there was. The Democrats had nothing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but I don't, I don't think that that's. Because. I don't think that's, that's by, by design. I think that they had, didn't have any leaders that were actually compelling at the, to run. That's why they went with Biden.

[Tim Pool]

Well, they didn't go with Biden. They state they got rid of Biden. I mean, after the primary and all of that. And then they installed Kamala. I mean, I mean, that was a terrible idea.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, it was that. I agree.

[Brett Dasovic]

It was.

[Phil Labonte]

What I'm saying is that's why they went with Biden in 2020, because they didn't have someone that was a standout leader that was clearly going to beat Donald Trump.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I think they got Biden because they could have get. He was familiar. He was already in the White House. You can get the Obamas to get behind him. The black vote wasn't going nowhere because they already knew it was Biden. That's their guy.

[Phil Labonte]

But doesn't that imply that that's the vote that's doing it? And not like.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but the vote can be manipulated not only through the act blue stuff. Right. But the voting can be manipulated just based upon perception. If you take somebody like Kamala Harris and you run her and they ask her a very simple question, you know, what could you have done better? This is a question you get when you apply for McDonald's. You gotta be ready to answer that question. And she can't answer that question. When they ask you and they say, yo, what's up with the. The president's mental health? And you sit up there and you lie. Everybody knows there's something wrong with the dude's brain. So you get up there and you lie to you. You can give the voters some credit, but nobody's actually going to vote.

[Brett Dasovic]

Real quick, I got to be honest. If. When they asked Kamala on the View, they're like, what would you have done differently if she legit said, I think I would have kept the fryers. The fries in the fryer for about 20 seconds longer. I'd be like, that's an answer. Instead, she's like, nothing.

[Tim Pool]

Nothing. You can't do that.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Mary]

They have no introspection whatsoever, which is why things keep falling off a cliff.

[Phil Labonte]

That's. Yeah, I agree with that. It's my.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, that's why I feel like, you know, they just threw the fight.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, I agree.

[Tim Pool]

I think they threw the fight.

[Brett Dasovic]

I. I think.

[Mary]

I still think they would have won if they just ran Biden brain dead. No, I don't think there was a. There was. There was people, like, before the election. There were people the day before googling like, is Joe Biden still running?

[Phil Labonte]

If they had. Look, if they had the votes, they wouldn't have the disarray they have now.

[Tim Pool]

There's two factors, okay? The prices of things. I see three factors. The prices of things. The dead body in the White House and a fake black lady. 1, 2, 3, you, out of here.

[Brett Dasovic]

We did talk about this on the show when we were asking, why are they running with Biden? Why are they running with Kamala?

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

And one of the potential scenarios was, they know they can't win no matter what they do.

[Tim Pool]

Correct.

[Brett Dasovic]

So they're saying, don't waste any potential, you know, lineup. We would have in the next 10 years, throw out a dead body and just see what we get.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Mary]

Wait, so then why don't you. If they don't think they can win with Biden, why don't they just keep running him?

[Tim Pool]

Well, here's the thing. The reason why they ran Kamala is because of celebrity influence in the black community. They were like, if we can pretend that she's black, then we can put on a fake facade of a campaign.

[Mary]

They went super hard with it right.

[Tim Pool]

Away, and they went for hard. They went and they got the booty shaker twerking on stage and all of that stuff. So they were able to get some of that celebrity bet for the first time held a black men summit bet. I can't remember the last time they cared about black men. They held a black men summit. I'm like, what is this?

[Brett Dasovic]

Not only that, to address what you said, why would they switch out Biden? They put Kamala on the national stage and propped up for Democrats. And now there's potential, there's rumors she's going to run for governor in California.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

So they said Biden's out. There's nothing left in that. You can't get, you know, blood from a stone. However, we put Kamala on the stage, she's going to lose, but it'll raise her profile. Then she runs for governor in California, which is 2 to 1 Democrat. She's going to win. Your data is like gold to hackers. They're selling your passwords, bank details and private messages. McAfee helps stop them. Secure VPN keeps your online activity private. AI powered text scam detector spots phishing attempts instantly. And with award winning antivirus, you get top tier hacker protection. Plus you'll get up to $2 million in identity theft coverage, all for just $39.99 for your first year. Visit McAfee.com, cancel anytime terms apply. Have you ever spotted McDonald's hot crispy.

[Tim Pool]

Fries right as they're being scooped into the carton?

[Brett Dasovic]

And time just stands still.

[Mary]

Okay. Makes sense to me.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I'm, I still, I still feel like the, the result or the, the reason that the Democrats are in disarray, the reason that things are going on at Act Blue, not just because the Republicans won and you got people like Cash Patel, but it's because they have no leadership. And they have no leadership because they don't know what their platform is anymore. They don't ha. They have totally abandoned the working class. Right. They're, they, they're not supporting middle America. They're the, they're the party of this, of the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor. And they use those two groups against the average American and they browbeat them with identity politics through multiple different ways, whether it be sexuality. Yeah. I mean, all of it. Basically, like you were saying yourself, they. When's the last time BET had a black man summit? They don't like men. The Democrats hate men. And that's, you know, it's something that's so fairly obvious.

[Brett Dasovic]

So let's, I want to jump to the story because it expounds upon the subject. This is from Newsweek. Gavin Newsom's podcast remarks sparks backlash from Democrats. Gavin Newsom knows what he's doing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Brett Dasovic]

You mentioned, Phil, that the Democrats don't have a platform anymore. Gavin Newsom is, and I bet they discussed this a year ago. After Trump wins, assuming he does, we need to start rebuilding a Democrat identity and who's going to be in charge? And as we, as we were mentioning in the previous segment you mentioned, MSNBC is bringing a new, more moderated Democrat. Stephen A. Smith can talk politics. Gavin Newsom sitting down with Charlie Kirk. They are trying to realign. They're going to moderate now. The big play here, obviously, Gavin Newsom's getting backlash from Democrats. They're probably going to come after me. I say they, the Democrat machine, the political machine, the bureaucratic state is going to come after me hard for this segment we're about to do right now. Oh, one of the biggest things that big mistakes are being made right now by the independent space. They don't have standards and practices, they don't have legal teams. And the corporate press may have. Here's what I think. I'll give you a simple, simple story. They, Joe Rogan started to emerge with the Ustream show. It got very popular. Podcasts became prominent, and the corporate press overlooked this. If they wanted to stop the podcast presidency, they needed to make the move seven, eight or nine years before it actually happened. Once Joe Rogan and many podcasts got as popular as they did, they lost control. They tried censoring. They shut down Paul Joseph Watson, they shut down Laura Loomer, they shut down Alex Jones, but it still wasn't enough. Audience were still flocking to this new medium that they did not invest in enough or censor enough. So what happens? They start to realize, guys, we're going to lose this one. So I think you're correct in that. Approaching 2024, they said, let's not waste any of our resources. However, many people on the right have made tremendous errors in not actively paying attention to their standards and practices, namely around two big things. One, the simple one that's not as big a deal is how they approach fair use issues and citation and copyright. That's not going to be as big a deal. But the big issue is in this new podcasting space, ads are being sold, which are illegal. And many individuals on the right are reading pharmaceutical ads and they're reading ads for finance without looking into federal law. After we wrapped up the Culture War podcast this morning, I was talking to Dell and Dr. Malone and I mentioned this. I said, we've had companies pitched to us. I don't want to Name the companies. So if you guys know what I'm talking about here, let's just. I don't want to drag anybody or any litigation, but there are people right now in the independent media space pro Trump, anti establishment who have been doing ad reads for prescription medications that is heavily regulated by the FDA. And the first thing Dr. Malone said to me was, I saw this too. I don't understand, why isn't the FDA going after them right now? I mean, this is heavily regulated. You can't just advertise prescription drugs. In some instances it's illegal. I said finance as well. There are a lot of people that are doing ad reads for financial services, not realizing there are federal requirements as to what you're supposed to do if you are selling an ad or doing a read. And so the question then was, why aren't these agencies or anybody doing anything about it? Here's what I think. Here's what I said to him. I don't think the federal regulators under Donald Trump are going to start banning conservative and anti establishment podcasters.

[Tim Pool]

Not now, no.

[Brett Dasovic]

YouTube will, though. YouTube is going to start nuking some massive channels with five plus million subscribers who have been doing this. And big shows are going to get caught off guard right before the midterms or right before 2028. It's going to be sporadic. It won't be all at once. It won't be a mass wave because they're not stupid. It's going to be a decently sized podcast will get a strike. And YouTube's going to say, well, you were running ads for pharmaceuticals. That's actually against the rules, against the law. There have been several instances where sales reps have come to me and said, what do you think about this product? And I go, kellen, look up the rules, look up the law. He comes back and says, that product's banned. I say, thank you, but no thank you. And they go, they respond to me. Here's a list of everyone who's already done it. Yep. Every time I say, look, we have standards and practices here to a limited degree. Like we have lawyers, we have legal teams, we check the laws and these things. And we have a team that goes through what isn't is not allowed to be advertised on whichever platform. YouTube has two sets of rules for this. AdWords and YouTube. And every time the company says, here's a list of prominent YouTubers who have already done the ad read, and I responded to them, that's great that other people are breaking the law and breaking and going to get themselves Banned, but that doesn't mean we'll do it. And they say you're leaving a lot of money on the table. I say, sure am. So then the question is, why hasn't any of these platforms banned these people just yet? Now is not the time. You ban a big creator right now. What do you accomplish, however, within a couple months of an election, you ban a prominent Trump supporter like they with Alex Jones, you know, and those people back then, you're gonna start having a visible dent put into the Republican machine, be it the midterms or 2028, whoever may be end up running. I think we're gonna see sporadic bans and the narrative will then emerge. So and so got banned from YouTube, big channel with 3 million subscribers, a huge show, and then they're going to be on X being like, this is unfair. And then YouTube's going to come out and say, here's a list of 17 times they did an ad for a prescription drug in violation of federal law. And we only were just made aware of it. This is not political. They were selling drugs and they are doing it. There are prominent podcasters selling drugs right now. I would say many of them illegally. And again, you hit nail on the head.

[Tim Pool]

That's exactly what's going to happen. I've been saying on my podcast, the Griff Report, I said, yo, listen, the Democrat recovery program is built into the right wing.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

The mistakes of the right. You know how politics go. Nobody really talks about their platform. They just go, hey, look what that guy did wrong. So, so that's what they're going to do. Going to wait, let all the Republicans make all these mistakes. We're going to be talking about one of the mistakes later in the show. But the other thing is the Democrats actually don't even have to have a platform. They're gonna sit back and let the Republicans create their platform. Because for example, when you go look back in the day, they had something called the anti Mason party and anti Mason party was starting to galvanize votes. Then they brought a candidate in, that candidate picked up the anti Mason talking points, Anti Mason party goes away. So all the Democrats have to do is sit back and wait, see what people care about, see what Republican talking points they got, and then compete on those same talking points. And you're going to see a more center Democrat party than you've seen in a while.

[Brett Dasovic]

So on top of that, you are, as you already mentioned, hotep. They've got the moderation happening. Gavin Newsom agreeing with Charlie Kirk on core anti Wokeness, you know, anti gender ideology. Yeah, a big gun. Then what we're going to see is the mass investment into podcasts like this. One of the things I mentioned to Dell and Dr. Malone was Rachel and I said this on the show. Rachel Maddow getting $25 million a year is money flushed on the toilet. You give 5 million, it is. Nobody watches her show. It's, it's. No, no disrespect, but her audience is predominantly 70 plus. Disrespect some, but I mean no disrespect to the elderly, but you take 5 million, you, you choose any one of the top liberal podcasters, you say, here are the talking points. Gender ideology is out. We don't want none of that. We're for the working class, we're moderating. Here's your talking points. Here's $5 million and here's $20 million in Google and billboard and TV ads. You will now be the biggest podcast in the world. So long as you stay within these confines. You know, these people are going to say yes. At the same time, tons of prominent independent podcasters are going to start going, popping across the board channels getting shut down and it's never going to be political. They're going to come out and they're going to say, we have no choice but to shut this channel down. Because, because they were doing financial ads without proper financial disclosures required by law. And they did it 53 times over the course of four or five years. So I think we'll see a series of things. For one, how we've seen censorship occur on Twitter before it was x and on YouTube is if you're a, if you're a small to mid channel, you get nuked instantly without warning.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

If you're a bigger channel, they'll give you a warning, take down 17 of your videos and then say, well, you broke the rules and try and push you to the brink where they can make the ban not be a big splash. I think we're going to see big channels get banned. I think it's going to be. First is going to be as simple as we issued a strike on this channel and a two week suspension of live streaming and uploading because they sold drugs. We are not banning them, but this is illegal and it's going to be right in the midterm period. You do that 100 times to some of the top podcasts and you have put a dent in the narrative machine for the right. You don't need to ban them outright. You need to create Enough negative pressure so that more people get the liberal podcast and a moderated view and less people get the right anti establishment podcasts.

[Tim Pool]

Boom. Nailed it.

[Mary]

Do you think that this is him, Gavin Newsom, gearing up for 2028?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Mary]

People are going to forget all people have such short attention spans. And he's likable enough to the politically uninitiated that all of the things that have gone wrong in California just won't register with a lot of people.

[Tim Pool]

Charlie Kirk is one of the sharpest cats out here. Young thundercat, tough dude to debate, knows his stuff. Gavin Newsom was right there hanging with him in that debate. He looked very sharp. And I saw Gavin Newsom in the debate. Was it Vivek? What did he debate during the elections? Was it Desantis?

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He looks sharp then too. Gavin Newsom's very sharp. You watch out for him. It's going to be Newsome versus Vance next election.

[Brett Dasovic]

You think Vance?

[Tim Pool]

I think Vance, yeah. It's a hunch, mostly because we're starting to see the Vance memes everywhere. You see the Vance baby memes. I'm like, are they about to meme them? Strike it. And then the other thing was when we saw dark Vance last week with Zelensky, we saw another side of Vance. He embarrassed Zelensky, made him pull his pants down.

[Brett Dasovic]

Was it you? Who was it? Who mentioned the emo Vance? I chime in with you. Haven't you people ever heard of stopping the goddamn war? That was emo Vance. That was so good. And like, you have these liberal outlets trying to make it seem like the right is mad about the Vance memes. It's like we're. We're doing it too, man.

[Mary]

He likes it. He's even said he finds them funny.

[Brett Dasovic]

They're really good.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody's enjoying them.

[Brett Dasovic]

Hey, but the. The left is making this, the Trump mistake again. They are making Vance a household name and prominent in minds and attention is currency.

[Mary]

And meanwhile, they're making the cringy choose your fighter video, which I literally died from watching. I think I actually got AIDS from watching that video. Video.

[Phil Labonte]

It's going around like it was.

[Mary]

It was awful.

[Brett Dasovic]

Fox News won't stop playing it.

[Mary]

It's for real.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's like was like day, day three now. And they've played it every show. Just like.

[Mary]

And this is the thing. If they had leadership, somebody would have stopped them from making that video. Like, somebody would have been. They would have given that video upload to somebody, empowered him. Like, no, this can't Go out. You have no idea what you're doing right now.

[Brett Dasovic]

Honestly, they would have. They would have. Mr. Burns pressed the button, and the floor trap would have opened. They'd get launched in the chute to eject out of the building.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think they set themselves up like J. Reed. You know, the next time it comes around, they're going to get midterm. You're going to see a whole new crew, a whole new cast, people you never heard of, or pop out the woodwork and take a lot of.

[Brett Dasovic]

But hold on real quick. What if the point of that video was to actually harm the credibility of progressive left Democrats?

[Mary]

It's doing a fantastic job.

[Brett Dasovic]

It is, isn't it? And so imagine you're a newsome acolyte. You're. You're. You're in the camp where it's like, we're going to moderate on these issues and we're going to try and recapture the center. First thing we got to do is we got to nuke the squad. What do we do? Hey, guys, we're making this video. Hey, how about 22 senators all make the same video? You do these things to weaken them so that you can supplant them in the party.

[Mary]

Think is Hakeem Jeffries somebody you would consider closer to center?

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't know about closer to center.

[Mary]

But.

[Tim Pool]

But say he's close to the center. But he going to come center. Yeah, he gonna get there. He's smart enough to know to. To. To. To see which way the wind is blowing.

[Mary]

He's saying to them, he's like, look, don't wear costumes. Don't. Don't carry signs. At this. At this event, we need to look normal. We need to have decorum, and nobody's listening. And it's so weird how for the party that seems to fall in line with everything, they don't have any structured.

[Phil Labonte]

Leadership because of the Civil War. It's because they haven't. It's because the. The progressives were so influential before the. Before they lost this last election. They really thought that all of the progressive policies and all the progressive talking points, they thought that they were in control. And when Kamala lost regular Democrats and their donors, the guys that write the checks are like, hey, this stuff didn't work. It's clearly unpopular with the American people, so we don't want to touch it. Look at the things that progressives are pushing. They're still pushing LGBT issues as if that's something that people, you know, the average American cares about. It's not Most Americans, again, whether you like it or not, most Americans are pro Israel. And you've got all these people that are in the progressive group that are saying, you know, that are talking about Palestine and that are essentially to Americans, to regular, normal people that are not plugged into politics, this looks like, oh, they're, they're siding with Hamas is what they. Is the, the, the short version of it. That's what they see. And so they see all this stuff right before the election, and they lose the election because of it. Like, these policies are not popular. So you've got the, the, the normal Democrats, right? The, the people that you would consider liberal Democrats. Those people are making a play for control of the party. That's why John Fetterman is so on. Is on X talking the way he does. That's why everybody was like, so, like, yeah, John Fetterman's actually got a point. Before the election, you got Hakeem Jeffries that was saying this stuff to the people that were going to be at the, at the, the joint session. Don't do this, don't do this. And they do. They look like trash. And now you. More people saying, this is not the way that the Democrat Party is going to win in the future.

[Brett Dasovic]

I got to warn everybody about Fetterman. So I'm watching Fox News with the wife. Fetterman pops up and makes a statement as he does, trying to sound reasonable. And Alison says, so he's all right. He's a Democrat, right? He's trying to get, he's trying to fix the party or whatever. And I said, look at how he votes. He's setting you up. People who are not as active as we are hear Fetterman and go, ah, here we go. The Democrats are getting their act together. And then he walks right in and rubber stamps woke garbage, all that stuff.

[Tim Pool]

It's four. It's four groups that's happening right now. You got people who got the call, people who didn't get the call, stupid people and smart people. Now, some of the stupid people didn't get the call. Some of the smart people didn't get the call. People like Charlamagne is in that group who was smart and didn't get the call.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

You saw him immediately shift. Well, first of all, he was kind of Trumpish. As soon as Kamala ran, he was like, hold on. I got along with the black folks. So it was Kamala. He's like, hold on, we coming back.

[Mary]

At the very least, he would ask questions and be like, it sounds like you guys are making mistakes.

[Brett Dasovic]

And then yeah, it was, come on the moment like, you know, Trump starts winning, he goes, were we lied to by the Democrats about Trump being a fascist?

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, he knows that's like now the Democrats, you starting to look at the Democrats that are still putting, pushing the woke stuff and you like bro, you don't, you can't read the, read the room.

[Mary]

Who is Stephen A. Smith talking to recently where he's like, you guys got.

[Tim Pool]

Spanked and Stephen A. Smith's been doing his rounds. He just spoke to Candace Owens. Yes, he's talking about running. You know, Stephen A. Smith is one of those people who didn't get the call read the room and said, hold on, we're going to bring this thing back center. Let's be reasonable. I don't want to be caught in the woke stuff. Then you'll be irrelevant. You'll be out like J. Reed.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, I mean I do want to say one thing. Let's celebrate the defeat of Wokeness because Democrats are abandoning it and that's. We can take, we can breathe a sigh of relief.

[Phil Labonte]

That's a W. That's a W. I'm apprehensive about that. There are, there, there are attempts to just rebrand it that will happen. They will just try to change the name that you're seeing that in the government, in the bureaucracies now.

[Mary]

Doing that at Disney right now as well.

[Phil Labonte]

People that used to be head of DEI etc, they're changing the names but they will still implement the policies if they're allowed and that will still be something because these people that believe this, they truly believe that they're ideologues and as long as they're working in hr, they're going to hire people that agree with them.

[Brett Dasovic]

There's not much departments are the, are the, the, the communist official party officers. You know what I mean?

[Tim Pool]

It's not much legs and awokeness because you have to think generation, generationally. If you look at the young generation coming up like I got twin boys that are 15. They're watching the different streamers. A lot of the streamers say we're not touching this politics stuff. We're not touching this woke stuff. We are just going to go make good content. So the Democrats and Wokeness don't even have the next generation coming up. So there's not much legs on that.

[Brett Dasovic]

Let me say I did. I had a segment today if YouGov polling from I think it might have been a year ago or within the past few months if you ask Democrats have We done enough for LGBTQ people, for people who are elderly. Something like 75 say we haven't. Gen Z says we've done enough. No joke. 78% of Gen Z is in the We've done enough or too much.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

I think that's gonna be too much.

[Mary]

Yeah, it's true about the, about the next generation too. I remember they, I think Kamala tried to talk to Kai Sinat and he's like no.

[Tim Pool]

He said no.

[Mary]

It's like no. Hell out of here with that.

[Tim Pool]

Touch that stuff. Yeah, you're going to taint me and mess up my brain.

[Mary]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Smart kid.

[Brett Dasovic]

Without. I feel like I can't ask this question without starting a three hour long conversation about it. But I'm curious where you think the US ends up on the issue of Israel with the, the younger generations, with people like Candace Owens. There are a lot of people who have broken from the right and I don't mean the people who are obsessed with Jews. Certainly they've been screaming. But with Dave Smith who was a more rational critical of Israel and Israel funding anti interventionist. I've had a conversation with many libertarians and even some I would call like moderate conservatives who are pro Israel. And the consensus seems to be leaning towards Israel must become self sufficient of its own accord, like over a period of time. So it seems like the space we're in is either totally anti Israel or Israel's cool, but not our problem. And the pro Israel sentiment which does exist I don't think is strong enough to maintain an ongoing US funding of Israel the way we've experienced it.

[Mary]

Are we talking like the politically initiated or are you saying like the general sentiment within the country, general public like.

[Brett Dasovic]

Israel, but really aren't going to be doing much for it. They're not going to go vote for the most part on these things. What I mean is we are seeing more and more a combination of things. Staunchly anti Israel individuals. Then you of course had what always existed. The, the, the, I call them the Zejuz people. They think on every rock they're crazy, but obviously they're there. But you're seeing more prominent personalities be hypercritical of Israel and it's become more of a mainstream conversation where you, you don't have the fervent zealous pro Israel anymore. So looking at Gen Z, I'm not talking about, you know, these, these, these university protesters who are saying like free feet from the river to sea river. I'm talking about the people you're mentioning who are playing video games, who are going to be like I don't want to be involved in any of that stuff. And you combine that with the other other anti anti Israel sentiment. I'm wondering if the next generation is going to be voting. We're going to see politicians who are basically like, nah, Israel, we out.

[Mary]

Well, is the idea here that you're going to get a next generation of people that are actually America first that are saying like look anti war like ron Paul in 2008. And taken to its logical conclusion, it's saying why are we anti war about everything but this? And perhaps the next generation just takes that sentiment to say you need to be self sufficient, we can't be funding you. A lot of those people, they're not going to get into discussions about I.

[Tim Pool]

Throw a bomb in the conversation.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

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[Tim Pool]

You can't be pro America and not be pro Israel.

[Brett Dasovic]

He's gone.

[Mary]

He's left the room.

[Phil Labonte]

I want to, I'm interested to know exactly what he means by that. But look, there are going to be a significant portion of people that are going to be like, look, America should take care of America and should, you know, we shouldn't be funding other countries. But there are a lot of people that have the impression that we just send them pallets of cash like we did to Iran. And when we send them, when we send them money, what we're sending them is weapons that were made in America. So the United States prints money, sends it to weapons manufacturers in the United States. That money goes to people that work in the United States, it goes back into the US Economy and then the weapons go to Israel.

[Mary]

So it's, people have been having that same conversation about Ukraine, right. That we're, a lot of what we're doing is funding through weapons that are made here in America. And a lot of Americans saying yes, but we have people here in America who are suffering through natural disasters where they're getting no aid whatsoever.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't want to fund American weapons either.

[Mary]

That's what I'm saying.

[Brett Dasovic]

I want a strong military. I want a strong military. I want well paid men and women in uniform. But when they're like, don't worry, the $350 billion that were being spent on Ukraine actually was, was, was given to the military industrial complex. I'm like, still bad.

[Mary]

But there are Americans in the American military industrial complex. I'm like, no.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know what would have been better off buying Greenland with that money. Although let's, let's, let's do the math. How much money would each citizen of Greenland get if we gave, if we, if we get, if we divvied up.

[Tim Pool]

$350 billion, is it like 27, 000 people or something like that? What's the 60?

[Mary]

Is that it?

[Tim Pool]

Is that, it's like, it's like a high school.

[Brett Dasovic]

Each person would get $5.8 million.

[Mary]

I'm moving to Greenland right now. I'm out of here.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, and then we'd have Greenland, you know what I mean? And you can, you can build stuff there. You can build.

[Tim Pool]

Here's my thing.

[Phil Labonte]

We're not doing anything in Greenland.

[Tim Pool]

When you tell them about Israel, right, What you're talking about is the great Western empire that we all get to enjoy the perks of, okay? And Israel is our representative in the region to hold things down for us, okay? Now first of all, we don't put so much money into Israel. We going to have to get a ROI on it.

[Mary]

So it's a sunken cost fallacy. We just have to stay out there.

[Tim Pool]

We got, you got to stay out there until we get something. You know it going to have to lock down some of the Golan Heights oil. This goes back to the fact that the Western empire wanted to topple the Ottoman Empire. Okay? This is what this is all about. This is the Ottoman Empire we're talking about here. And we still got more territory to conquer. Iran's next. You know, I'm supposed to save this. These takes for Joe, Joe Rogan and Alex Jones. I'm dropping them here. Iran's next. Everybody know what's on the plane? Come on, we all know what's going on. Iran's next. We took care of Iraq, Iran. This is the Western empire. Either you love the perks of being an American in the Western empire or you don't you want The Arabs doing. You want the Muslim.

[Mary]

A lot of people, I mean don't.

[Tim Pool]

Or China because China's gonna. If you don't do it, somebody else is gonna take that region.

[Mary]

But don't. A lot of people if, like there's a fracture in America first. Of people who understand global politics, geopolitics and war overseas and the ones who just are saying blanket statement. I don't think we should be any of these regions. I think we should focus on things here. Understand that's a very, very utopian way of thinking of things. I'm just saying that's a sentiment.

[Tim Pool]

They never play civilization.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

What a good game. Yeah. I don't know about the latest Civ 7. Everyone hates.

[Tim Pool]

What's the other game with the war game? You take over Risk. Risk.

[Mary]

We were just talking about. I, I think it's just like what's going on here.

[Phil Labonte]

People are real quick to be like, we should. They don't have a sophisticated understanding of geopolitics. And like, I do think that we should end all kinds of support to, to most countries. I don't think we should be sending money around. Around the world buying. Buying influence and stuff like that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Dropping pronouns.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think we should be doing.

[Brett Dasovic]

Any of that stuff. Remember when Trump was like, nobody knows where that is. Right.

[Phil Labonte]

It doesn't change the fact that most people that are like, oh, we shouldn't do anything. We shouldn't spend money, we shouldn't give foreign. Foreign aid. They don't understand what foreign aid is. They think that it's just dumping money and pallets and it's. Well, that's not, it's not foreign aids. Not regime change. But there is. There is regime change. I'm not saying there isn't U.S. uSAID is not foreign.

[Brett Dasovic]

USAID's regime change.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Mary]

Revolution all over the.

[Phil Labonte]

USAID is not aid. It's. It's regime change.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's.

[Phil Labonte]

It's soft power aids. It's.

[Mary]

Well, yeah, I guess the way I think it is. The average person who doesn't follow global politics super closely sees natural disasters happen here and FEMA gives them $600 and they're like, why is it that we can give American Citize Citizen $600 but we have to give again?

[Tim Pool]

Now that's messed up.

[Mary]

Yeah, that's. I'm saying they're saying that we should take, you know, order of order of importance. You should take care of the citizens here first. We have. We're 30. We're $35 trillion. Is it more than that now $35 trillion in debt. Let's focus on the citizens here first. Then we can. Once you know, it's like on an airplane, right? Like when they, when they drop the mask down, Secure your mask first. Then you can worry about the people around you. Take care of the people here first. Then you can worry about the people in the rest of the world.

[Brett Dasovic]

So in direct funding, I believe the US is at like 140 billion in total spending, including ancillary spends which are not direct to Ukraine, but for, we'll say things like funding of US Personnel in Europe that do aid and assist Ukraine. So like, we've got the direct congressional apportioned funds. Then we have existing U. S. Military infrastructure in Europe. I believe the estimate is total expense was $350 billion. If that is the case, and I know it is a rough estimate, that means the United States has given each citizen of Ukraine, including babies, $9,722.

[Tim Pool]

Damn.

[Brett Dasovic]

And if you're in a disaster zone United States, you got a nice fat 600 bucks. Don't spend it on one place.

[Phil Labonte]

It blows my mind that they go with such a. A piddly amount of money and say, this is what we're going to give you at all. It is better to not give.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right, right.

[Phil Labonte]

Better to not give anybody money than to allow that to go out for the American people to hear. They're like, what? You know, I can. That's like two weeks of groceries. What do you mean support? Blah, blah, blah. It is way better to say we're not giving anything out. It's all going to go through aid and blah, blah, blah.

[Mary]

The government's like, have the rock drop a gofundme.

[Tim Pool]

It's terrible, man.

[Mary]

The rock did the gofundme for Hawaii.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah.

[Mary]

After the.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, okay, but what about if it's pop culture? Brett knows, you know, we're like, who.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, whatever happened. East Palestine, Ohio. Didn't they get like a. Did they even get.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh, that, that, that. I don't think so. And that soil is contaminated with the vinyl. Vinyl chloride. Was it.

[Mary]

Did they ever fix the drinking water in.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mary]

Michigan.

[Tim Pool]

Flint, Michigan.

[Mary]

Flint, Michigan.

[Tim Pool]

Domestically.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'll just tell you, I don't even care. I got potholes. We got. We got an interstate highway down the streets. Got potholes. Look, if you can't fix a pothole, okay, on your road, you don't send our money to Ukraine. Sorry, it's just. Come on. I understand war happens, but you're supposed to explain to the American people and get, get approval from Congress and have general support for these things. The problem we have now is that they know they have no real justification for what they're doing. So they have to censor and ban people and any securitist means they can to stop them from spreading sentiment that is anti war with 60 years from.

[Tim Pool]

Now they're gonna be talking about. We got the binders coming out. The binders. Ukraine files.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Here's where the money was. That's gonna be the next.

[Brett Dasovic]

We know they were stealing it.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, I mean, and this is. There were the fake businesses that were set up that were receiving US Money directly to build fortifications. And then when Russia attacked, there were no fortifications. And Ukraine was like, yeah, because the money was being stolen. Let's jump to the story from the post Millennial AOC aid in the US Illegally self deports to Colombia. Say what? Victory she employed an illegal immigrant. Is that. That's a crime, isn't it?

[Tim Pool]

That is.

[Mary]

I feel like.

[Brett Dasovic]

Hold on, let me. I got to get the context here. What's going on? An aide to AOC self deported after being in the US Illegally. Diego de la Vega said he has freedom of movement in Colombia now after he overstayed his visa in the U.S. okay, so overstated visa. Did she hire him when he was allowed to work here? What's going on? They say according to the Washington Free Beacon, he left the US In December after he overstayed his visa that he received when he was 7 years old. On Wednesday, AOC praised de la Vega, saying that we love him. The aid self deportation came shortly after Trump was elected in November. And since becoming president, he was pushed for. He has pushed for a mass deportation effort, starting with those here illegally that are also committing other crimes. De la Vega relocated to Bogota to be with his wife who was another illegal immigrant to the U. S. In an interview with Migrant Insider, the aide said that he was illegalized in the U. S and that he would have the freedom of movement in Colombia. What? It's not clear how de La Vega was able to be employed by the lawmaker, although he was barred from working in Congress because of his legal status. So is AOC just outright committing crimes here?

[Mary]

Illegalized mean?

[Brett Dasovic]

It's a made up term. That's a.

[Mary]

It's like self deport is going to be like YouTubers censoring themselves about self deletion. It's going to be a new term.

[Tim Pool]

Haitian's going to re up on Zelensky's Packs.

[Phil Labonte]

I thought AOC was Puerto Rican, right?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. She's just beautiful, though. I love aoc. That's. That's my.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, look, if it's. If, if. If Trump's policies are getting, you know, illegal aliens to self deport, I'm good with it. I'm good with it.

[Brett Dasovic]

So he's a. He was a DACA recipient, right? And once Trump came in, he said he's getting out of here because he's being illegalized, but he was barred from working in Congress, so how did. How was she able to employ a DACA recipient? I'm sorry, I have no. No sympathy for DACA recipients. I just really don't. If. When. When was DACA? 2013 or something? Or 2012. So right now, with Trump getting elected, with immigration being a principal issue, you've got people who have been here as DACA recipients since then. They've had 12 years to get their affairs in order, and they chose not to. And now it's, oh, no. But these people have been here their whole lives. You can't. Well, they didn't have to be. They could have been here half their lives, and they had 12 years to get their affairs sorted, to go back to their home countries. I don't know why that's my responsibility as an American.

[Mary]

Do you think that this is an issue that's going to be contentious, or is this one that Democrats are going to end up shifting on? Because this is like. Because this is like a core Obama. This is like a core Obama issue.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right? They have to shift. They have to shift on it. Because I'll give you two examples. The immigration crisis was so severe, people's brains got fried. And another example is gay marriage support is dropping and likely Obergefell will be overturned. And this is because the people who supported DACA did so thinking they were being reasonable. And then what happened? The border got overrun, communities changed. Certain community centers were overrun. The black voters in Chicago were at meetings saying, we are being. They said the quote, we are being replaced. That came from the black community in Chicago. These people are going to recoil at this, at the talk of amnesty from now on because they've been negatively impacted by mass migration. So when gay marriage emerges, when DACA emerges, doesn't really bother anybody or affect anybody. And they say, who cares?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Ten years on, mass migration has negatively impacted us. And the LGBTQ issues have pushed so far beyond the pale that people are shocked and scared. Now, moderates, moderate liberal types who supported these causes have disappeared. You're now going. So gay marriage support has dropped, like, I think, two or three points.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

From. From last year to neck from this. So it's starting to curve down. And you're likely going to see many of these people who were once liberal and the post liberals who have joined Trump will not speak out as activists in support of gay marriage when the challenges arise. And they are numerous states saying they're gonna get rid of it. I'm not trying to shift the conversation back to the same point about immigration back then. DACA is immigration doesn't really faze me. Let the people stay. What's the problem now? The issue is my community center is full of illegal immigrants. I don't care. I have no sympathy. You gotta go home.

[Tim Pool]

Blake and Riley stories all in they face. That's a nasty story. When Trump was doing his address with Congress this week and he start naming those stories, people hear that stuff, that resonates, and it's gonna stick in your mind. But when I saw that quote just now from AOC and she says, we're gonna miss him. And when you said what you said, that was the inkling I got. I was like, wait a second. She's shifting. Because normally what you would get from her after something like that is, you know, she's gonna be at the border crying near the fence. She didn't do that. She says, I'm just gonna miss him.

[Brett Dasovic]

Or the response would be, I will hide him in my attic if I have to. Right.

[Tim Pool]

And she didn't say that.

[Brett Dasovic]

She said. She said, miss you. Bye.

[Tim Pool]

So does she get the call? Because we know she's not too bright. So maybe she got the call. Maybe somebody said, aoc, listen, we going to need you around next week. You're going to have to shift a little bit.

[Mary]

But then wouldn't you.

[Brett Dasovic]

I love. Sorry, just. I love that. That's probably true. The call is going around. You probably got Gavin Newsom, you got legal teams. They probably went through a list of people that they think would. Would follow orders with the new shift for politics. And I think you're right about Charlemagne. He didn't get the call, but he is smart. So he went, oh, geez. They lied about Trump, huh? Yeah.

[Mary]

So, like, the idea was that when they talked about Lake and Riley or they talked about the young man with brain cancer at the. At the address.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right.

[Mary]

And nobody stood up and no Democrats clapped. Did none of those people get the call? Because a really easy way to start shifting would have been to just stand up and act like a human Being.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they didn't get the call. And again, coming back to Charlemagne, when you look at Charlemagne in a Breakfast Club's coverage, even I got to give props to DJ Envy. When they talked about dj, they were like, yo, like, leave little bro alone. He's got brain cancer. Blah, blah, blah.

[Brett Dasovic]

But they get it.

[Tim Pool]

You. You cannot. You cannot not support dj. And what they were saying was that Trump was grifting off of dj. And I'm like, listen, let's say Trump was grifting off a dj. Who wins more from that DJ or Trump? I'm like, yo, I feel like DJ wins more. DJ set up for life now.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, but sure. But let's say Trump was grifting and Democrats knew it. That's why they're complaining. Then the best thing they could have done is all stood up and clapped and cheered for it and made sure Trump didn't win this one.

[Mary]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brett Dasovic]

And it was bipartisan.

[Mary]

Like, it's political theater. I'm like, it's all political theater. It's how you respond that actually matters.

[Brett Dasovic]

The next day, when they're censuring Al Green and then all the Democrats, not all of them, but a lot of them are singing We Shall Overcome and the well of the Congress. They didn't get the call.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they didn't get the call.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm like, you look nuts.

[Tim Pool]

They on their way out.

[Brett Dasovic]

They have to be. And now, now we're hearing that Johnson may remove many of these Democrats from their committees. So it's not expulsion, but it's. It's. It's going to be some tantamounts, too. You get. So. So for those that understand this so.

[Tim Pool]

Bad, you could replace them with anybody.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right. I want to make sure people understand this. When you're in Congress, you want to be on certain committees because the committees can get those bills to the floor for a floor vote.

[Tim Pool]

Correct.

[Brett Dasovic]

So Matt Gates pointed this out to us. He said when he first got in, they said, if you want a committee assignment, you got to pay for it. And based on the size of your. Of your district and it's. And it's like per capita gdp, whatever your contribution to the. What is the nrcc, National Republican Congressional Committee or whatever has to be a certain number. And so Gates said. I wrote him a check and said, how much will half a million get me? And they were like, you can have any committee assignment you want. When Marjorie Taylor Greene got censured for posting on Facebook and they stripped her of her committee assignments, she was basically unable then to advance Certain bills or be involved in that process. So if these Democrats are. Democrats are getting stripped from their committee assignments, and it could be 30 or 40. That's massive. It is. It is. It is almost expulsion.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And Ocean could get a New Democrat to come in and get on the committees and negotiate, but if they get removed, they're going to dramatically lose power.

[Tim Pool]

You know what the New New Democrat Party is going to look like? White men. Strong white men. I'm telling you, you cannot.

[Brett Dasovic]

Fetterman Newsom.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Mary]

And again, like, there's a million things you can criticize Gavin Newsom on, but the sad fact is most people have short memories and aren't going to remember it by the time the next election comes around.

[Tim Pool]

I don't remember it. All I see is the new Gavin.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Brett Dasovic]

And he. Is he. And he was very deferential to Charlie in a lot of those issues was when he was like, Fairpoint. Yep. Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yeah, the stuff that he's deferential about are the obvious.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

The things that. It's a. It was insane for the Democrats to take up these. These ideas in the first place. It is insane for the Democrats to say, we're going to force young men to play women's sports. We're going to force schools to allow that to happen. And you see that video, that girl, poor girl, getting her face smashed in with the volleyball. Every single parent that sees that is like, I'm all set with the Democrats. I don't need this anymore.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know what I think? I think the Democrats and the DJ thing, I think it's that Democrats are substantially less likely. I mean, the voters as a base, less likely to have kids. They. They don't get an emotional reaction seeing that father. They don't empathize with that father. So there's two things I see here. We mentioned this. I think I mentioned this this morning, that in this battle we have, there are people who serve God and people who want to be God. So the transhumanists, big tech, or people who are just gluttonous and hedonistic. And then you have people on the other side if you want to secularize it, for those that are moderate and support Trump but don't believe in God. These are people who believe in something greater than themselves. So they might be an atheist, they might be agnostic, but they serve in the military because they believe, you know that. I think that exists. When you look at the DJ scenario, people who believe in the greater are more likely to feel empathy, not just for the kid. Who was bullied. And that's where a lot of this started. He was being bullied because he wanted to be a cop. But for the father who's standing there imagining what that dad must have felt when his son was going through brain cancer, imagining what that kid must have been feeling going through brain cancer 13 times, 13 times. And then, man, to see that dad with a big old smile on his face, holding up his son for the President of the United States to be honored to know that not only did his son survive, and it was probably the most terrifying and painful thing you can experience. It's probably slow torture. The Democrats, I'm sure many of the Democrat politicians, they have kids, we know they do and they understand that, but they don't stand up because their voters don't understand that. And their voters won't react with empathy because they don't care. In fact, they've been publishing op EDS all the time saying, stop having kids, it's bad for the climate.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, the problem is, the reason why Democrats can't resonate with that father is because Democrats are used to kids having two dads.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, where's the other one?

[Phil Labonte]

Or where's the other dad they've signed up for hating men. It's been, it's been broken, purely obvious for at least 20, 30 years.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm. So when that, when that, when DJ got held up by his dad, I wasn't, I wasn't just, I wasn't just cheering for dj, I was cheering for that dad.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, I've told this before. There was a video that went viral on the Internet a long time ago of a dad holding his dead son. And he wailed in such a way that would like haunt your nightmares. And I'm like, worst thing a parent could ever experience. And he didn't just deal with that pain. It was prolonged torture over a long period of time. Parents who go through kids with terminal illness, you're not just experiencing that pain one time, you're being beaten over the head with it. You have to watch your child suffer in that way. Here he is now on the other side of it in the best way imaginable. He shouldn't just get a standing ovation. They should have stood up for 20 minutes and clapped for them. The Democrats, I don't believe their constituencies can resonate with that. So they just say, don't stand up, it'll be bad for business.

[Mary]

Yeah. Cuz the climate's gonna bring the world to an end. So why would you have kids anyways?

[Tim Pool]

You know what? The gift that Trump gave that kid outside of the gift of the grift. Cause now he get to get the grift on. Okay, he's hot as fire right now, but he gave that kid the gift of life. Taxes was taxing. Now, taxes is relaxing. When you file for free, I can.

[Phil Labonte]

File for free TurboTax Free Edition. Roughly 37% of filers qualify.

[Brett Dasovic]

Simple Form 1040, returns only.

[Phil Labonte]

See if you [e-mail] free I can file for free.

[Tim Pool]

Now this is Taxes. File for free with TurboTax Free Edition and get your maximum refund. No schedules except for earned income tax credit, child tax credit, and student loan interest. See if you [e-mail] free. Yeah, because, you know, they've done studies on this in Asia. They have happiness, you know, treatment for diseases. But the. The level of your mood can actually help you with whatever it is that you're facing. And this kid now enjoying this extended period of elation, he's given this kid life. And this is one of the most beautiful things. I will never forgive the people that. That really politicized that and didn't show. Love to dj.

[Brett Dasovic]

They could just clap, man.

[Phil Labonte]

The fact that the Democrats can't identify the obvious correct moves is actually hilarious. Yeah, it's really funny when, if you actually think about it, it's like you. You thought it was a bad. A bad idea to stand up for the kid with cancer. You hate Trump that much. You thought it was a bad idea to stand up for the kid with cancer. You people are morons. People shouldn't be in any position of authority because you're too stupid.

[Tim Pool]

If y'all be mean to Trump, I'm on your bumper.

[Brett Dasovic]

I gotta be honest. I imagine Trump and his cabinet are sitting in the room, and then Trump sitting there being like, I tell these people that air is safe to breathe. They hold their breath. Watch how much you want to bet I bring out a kid with cancer and they're not going to cheer for him. And they're like, Trump, Mr. President, that's a great idea. Can we get a kid? And he's like, all right, let's bring him out. It's a grift. But then it's like, it proves the point.

[Tim Pool]

Proves a point.

[Brett Dasovic]

Let's jump to this story from USA Today. Donald Trump says he isn't considering pardoning Derek Chauvin in George Floyd's murder. Fake news. Donald Trump said, I have no idea what you're talking about. So here's the story Ben Shapiro put out a video saying, you know, pardon Derek Chauvin. Derek Chauvin not only was charged at the state level, but also the federal level. Ben Shapiro made the point that Trump could pardon this man who has been wrongly prosecuted in many ways. And Trump was asked about it and his response was, no, I haven't heard about it. I haven't heard of that. The media is now running the headline that Trump says he won't pardon Derek Chauvin, which is a weird headline to run considering Trump just said, I don't effectively, I don't know what you're talking about. They go to mention Ben Shapiro, founder of the Daily Wire, this week launched an online petition calling for Trump to pardon chauvin, who in 2021 was sentenced for 22 and a half years in prison on state charges for second, third, second, third and third degree murder and 21 years on federal charges for depriving Floyd of his civil rights when he knelt on top of Floyd's neck for nine and a half minutes as he landed Minneapolis sidewalk in May of 2020. Certainly, we all know that the issue there is not so cut and dry and they're not framing it that well, but the Daily Wire has pushed this big campaign and many people have gotten on board with it. I think, obviously, I think Derek Chauvin shouldn't be in prison at all. And I have tweeted hashtag freeshoven numerous times. I don't know if it makes sense right now for Trump to put this on his agenda. I mean, certainly Chauvin shouldn't be in prison, but he's gonna be in state prison anyway. Even if Trump pardoned would be still locked up. So I don't know why now is the right moment for this, but I'm curious what you guys think.

[Tim Pool]

It's a grift, Big Boss Ben grifting. But this goes back to what I said before. The Democrat recovery program is built into the right wing. You're gonna have missteps like Big boss Ben trying to get his grift on, and then it's going to come 20, 28 people go, how come black people won't vote for Republicans? Because you're doing stupid stuff like this.

[Brett Dasovic]

But what's wrong with this? It's stupid, but not like why you think Chauvin should not be pardoned.

[Tim Pool]

Here's what, here's what we got. You got Derek Chauvin, right? Who? He ain't. He ain't the cleanest dude. He ain't the clean. She got a little Funny past. Him and George Floyd got a pass.

[Brett Dasovic]

Before they worked at the same place together.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Okay, so we're not even gonna get into that. Okay. You got Derek Chauvin, then you got the country. Are you gonna sacrifice your country for a dirty cop?

[Brett Dasovic]

Why is he a dirty cop?

[Tim Pool]

You're gonna have to. We're not gonna get.

[Brett Dasovic]

You're saying narrative wise, the view among many in the population is a guy's a dirty cop, it doesn't matter what I believe.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. In short, yes. But there are stories that I've heard from people in Minnesota about the dealings between him and George Floyd. And those two were not exactly the nicest people. Right. It's the same thing with George Floyd. Right. When I tell black people, I'm like, yo, look like George Floyd ain't exactly Martin Luther King Jr. Right. It's the same thing with Derek Chauvin. I'm like, yo, this dude ain't exactly Captain America. So don't throw away the country for one cop.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's the, that's the Dean's logical versus utilitarian moral worldview challenge we all face.

[Mary]

And it wouldn't matter any.

[Tim Pool]

You got to sacrifice them. Yeah, you got to sacrifice. Hey, Derek, show me. Look, we got a, we got election to win. You got to sit down in prison.

[Phil Labonte]

He does it, he does it on his way out the door at the end of his, of his term.

[Mary]

And this is one of those things that you're just, you're not. Right now there's an information gap between the people that actually followed this case closely and looked at the, the medical examiner's report and looks at all of the information connected to it. It was a very, very emotional response from a lot of the country in relation to this. And they would lose a lot of support if they did this right now. You know, something that wouldn't get him out.

[Brett Dasovic]

I, I'd take one term as president because I would just do the, I'd pardon so many people. Like just insane pardons, like most nonviolent offenses. I say most because some. We talked about this before with like, what if Trump pardoned all, like marijuana related federal charges. The issue is that some of them, you know, pleaded down from violent or very dangerous, very bad things. Some are cartel members. You don't want free. Just because we got them on the pot thing doesn't mean we don't know about other stuff he did. But there's a lot of people, I'd say just get them out. We don't like non violent offenses, you know, that we know is just some dude who had a bunch of weed or whatever. It's like, we don't want to deal with this stuff. But if I. If I had just one term, I'd be pardoned left and right, and I'd be locking up left and right. People who, people who work in. I've already mentioned this over and over again. These CBP agents who are trafficking kids and knew it, the people who were transporting illegal immigrants and knew it, and they worked for these bus companies or whatever, I'd be locking people up like crazy. I guess I'm just saying, like right now Trump's in this position where he's not running for reelection right after the midterms. Maybe he goes more ham than he already is.

[Mary]

Yeah. But the thing is, he's going to start be planning for 2028 for whoever comes next. Right. Just because he. Especially if we're talking about Vance being the one that runs in 2028, then whatever Trump does on his way out will be. Will color how people feel about Vance, even if Vance had nothing to do with those decisions.

[Tim Pool]

Right, but the thing is, if you've got a corpse of a Democrat party, don't give it life.

[Brett Dasovic]

I agreed. Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And when you do stuff like this, you give them something to talk about. Let them die, man.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know, there's a. This is the philosophical conundrum, the trolley problem, you know, would you sacrifice a single individual for the greater good or for the larger of society?

[Tim Pool]

Fill his commissary.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's tough, man. Yeah, that's true.

[Tim Pool]

You know, get them a nice couch, make sure you take care of them. Get the guards to take care of you. Hey, listen, the mob used to do stuff like that, right?

[Brett Dasovic]

Like.

[Tim Pool]

You got it.

[Brett Dasovic]

If that's your guy, tear down the wall in a cell, give him two cells, put a tv, get a Jacuzzi in there, send a couple of girls.

[Tim Pool]

In every once in a while.

[Mary]

Look, they could do that. Like I said before, I'm from Minnesota. The Minneapolis cops are not exactly known as the most, you know, reputable police force. Or at least they weren't. That's all I'm saying.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I'm saying.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, so, so why. You said. You said Ben was grifting. Why do you think he's doing it?

[Tim Pool]

Because he couldn't buy Tim cash. He couldn't buy Tim cast, so he like, damn, what I'm gonna do next.

[Mary]

Great. Glass in case of emergency. This is his backup option.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, that is that. I. I do love that. All of these Zeju's people were screaming at the top of their lungs, claiming, they claimed Daily Wire already owned him. Kiss right. There was an article that said Daily Wire had a minority stake in the company. It's like none of this was ever true. I'm a fan of their work. Matt Walsh does amazing stuff. Friends with them. I got no beef. I think they're good people, whatever. And when these people run this narrative, no apologies, no backtracking, they just. So I'll say this, they said, you.

[Tim Pool]

Got a yamaga under your beanie.

[Phil Labonte]

They said that they still think that you're under the. The Jew owned by the Jews.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. So when Jake Shields. Oh, yeah. And some of the other people who are like, their brains have, like, they got what you know, like they got a fighter.

[Tim Pool]

You know, his brain knock. He got CTE and something.

[Brett Dasovic]

A lot of followers. But when he says one time that Tim sold his company to Jews, he's got followers who to this day believe that. And it was never true. And I bet him a bottle of Pappy whiskey it wasn't true. And he just disappeared on the issue like a little baby. He just ran away and said, I'm not gonna say anything about nothing. Just he.

[Tim Pool]

So what I will say about those people is dangerous. It's dangerous.

[Brett Dasovic]

Think about how wrong he was about that and how he adamantly kept screaming it. Think about everything else he's saying. The dude is just. It's crazy how wrong he is, but he gets propped up. I think he's probably getting a lot of bot traffic.

[Tim Pool]

I was just about to say that. Y'all listen. All these dudes that's pushing this anti Semite stuff, the only reason why they doing it is because they think they're getting traction, but the traction is coming from bot traffic. They are being manipulated. So the thing is, they say the Jews and then it gets a spike in traffic. But there's somebody manipulate them. I ain't going to say who, because I don't know. I can speculate, but I don't know. But somebody's pushing bot buttons and these people are being controlled by bot farms because they think they're getting real engagement and they are not getting real engagement.

[Brett Dasovic]

I think it's important to clarify that certainly there are a lot of people who are following them and do believe this stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Brett Dasovic]

And what happens is when you point out there are bot campaigns that are easily visible, people think you're accusing them of being a bot. So clarify. But I'll say this I do believe the whole Zejuz thing that we're seeing where it's like people claimed that we were owned by. I mean, it's crazy because it's like you got Catholics working at Daily Wire. But I think the reason why there is a bot campaign in this regard is it gives the big platforms an excuse to shadow ban, and again, and it kills your advertising revenue. So I'll just say this. I don't want to. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna speak about any of the big names personally, but how is it that you can have. And I'll be as vague as possible because there's probably like 15 to 30 people who fit this, this category. They are podcasters in the space of a. And it's, you know, just like very X. We'll call it variable X. And maybe it's billiards, maybe it's racing. And now they're only talking about Jews.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Brett Dasovic]

Because what happens is somebody will post something and it will hit the keywords that will generate likes and retweets. Weak willed. People see that and go, oh boy, this works.

[Tim Pool]

I should do.

[Brett Dasovic]

And they chase after it.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Brett Dasovic]

So here's what happens. Somebody's like, I played billiards today and they're posting billiards videos. Then the Israel, Palestine things happens and they see it and they go, man, that's crazy. And so they tweet. I don't know what I'm seeing, but these, these, these bomb strikes in Gaza freak me out. All of a sudden they get 100 responses and 73 retweets. And the people are responding, being like, oh my God, how. How bad is this? I can't believe Israel would do this. And then they see that and they go, my billiard video got 3,000 views. My Israel video got 10,000 views.

[Tim Pool]

Switch up.

[Brett Dasovic]

So they say, I'm gonna post another one. Then the X revenue comes in. Now they got 300 bucks and they're like, whoa, there it is. I remember when. Who is it?

[Tim Pool]

It's a feedback loop.

[Brett Dasovic]

It is. There was that one dude who claimed that GTA was run by the Jews. Do you remember that? The Grand Theft Auto video game? Yeah. I can't remember. What's the guy's name? I don't know. People in the chat will probably know, but he tweeted something like, grand Theft Auto is going woke because it's run by Jews. And I'm like, okay. And he got a bunch of retweets on it.

[Tim Pool]

I don't even remember the game. Going woke. It seemed very anti.

[Brett Dasovic]

Because they put a woman as the, as a protagonist of the new game.

[Phil Labonte]

You could.

[Tim Pool]

But I thought that was genius because we, we never got that. And now you get to play the whole Bonnie and Clyde situation. And I think that's still.

[Phil Labonte]

Go buy a homer and take the money back.

[Tim Pool]

But here's the, here's the genius. Here's the genius behind adding a woman. It's not about wokeness. It's about the fact that what do you have entering the gaming community in big numbers right now?

[Brett Dasovic]

Not women.

[Tim Pool]

Female gamers.

[Brett Dasovic]

Not true. No, that's not true.

[Tim Pool]

What.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's fake what they did. So this has been a controversy, okay. For 15 years.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Women entered the gaming space with Candy Crush phone games. Phone games.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

Candy Crush, principally.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Not triple A games like first person shooters and gta. Women still do not play those games. So imagine if they said. Did you know that the fastest growing demographic in podcasting was young Gen Z women? Tim Cast, irl better start doing makeup tutorials. No, no, no, no, no, no. Tim Cast and podcasting in news and culture is still 80% male.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Brett Dasovic]

The spaces that have attracted females have. Have been principally sex podcasts. I'm not, I'm not being crude.

[Mary]

Call her daddy.

[Brett Dasovic]

Call her daddy. And so if someone came out and said women is a fast growing demographic, quick turn your. Your news and culture podcast for pro women, you're going to lose everything.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Women play Candy Crush. They don't play gta.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. I don't know, Tim.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's a fact. I'm not making that up.

[Tim Pool]

All right, so I'm basing this off of anecdotal evidence, which is why it's different. And I'm not saying it's the fastest growing demographic. I won't say that. What I am saying is I've never seen so many women in my sphere pick up cod, Fortnite, Apex Legends and Grand Theft. I know the numbers aren't there, but women have a huge influence because they have boobs. Certainly they are gonna draw in large crowd. Cause you see the. What did the kick guys do? What did the. The Twitch guys do?

[Brett Dasovic]

80, 20.

[Tim Pool]

They always. It is. It is 80, 20, but they always bring on the only fans, girls to pump up their numbers.

[Brett Dasovic]

And the women who are playing these games are likely doing it because they're doing streaming content.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And they get eyeballs.

[Tim Pool]

Correct.

[Brett Dasovic]

But they don't. At the ground level. They're not going to buy the games. And if you know they're not going.

[Tim Pool]

To Buy the games.

[Brett Dasovic]

And that's so you cater to this demographic. You will lose money.

[Tim Pool]

No, I don't think they're catering to the demographic.

[Brett Dasovic]

They absolutely are.

[Tim Pool]

You think gta.

[Brett Dasovic]

Not just gta, but tons of games have tried implementing this feminist worldview and it has bombed their games miserable.

[Tim Pool]

Like what? Like what game you have.

[Brett Dasovic]

So first we're talking about an overlap.

[Tim Pool]

Heavenly Sword was fired.

[Brett Dasovic]

You. I didn't play that one.

[Tim Pool]

That was great.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right now you've got two big controversies. Dragon Age crashed miserably. A trip triple A game flopped.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Brett Dasovic]

And the it is believed the main reason may be. I think it is personally that they introduced feminist politics, woke politics into the game. Gender ideology.

[Tim Pool]

Disgusting.

[Brett Dasovic]

And a video went viral that was a two. It was like a three minute cut scene where you had to listen to someone explain why you can't misgender people. And then next thing we know, Dragon Age, which was. It's a massive franchise. Bombs.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Brett Dasovic]

At the same time, Marvel Rivals is super popular by the biggest game right now. And what do the women look like in that game? They got big booties and big titties. The men are ridiculously jacked oversized. And the woke are complaining you can't gender swap the characters. And the game's like, shut up. The women, yo, they just rolled out sue storm in and she may as well be not wearing any clothes. They basically put a naked woman and painted her white and blue. And get this. I don't know why they did this, but Reed Richards has gaps in his. In his junk. In his, in his suit, his. His unitard.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

With his pube sticking out. I don't know what that's all about.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, but the new, the new GTA chick, they twerking on top of the car. Like that's what I want to see. That I want to see.

[Brett Dasovic]

But the thing is you want to play that. You want to be that charact character? Is that who you want to be?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Brett Dasovic]

The male power fantasy in GTA is to run around, pull a guy out of his car, steal it and run it up, drive it off a bridge or whatever.

[Mary]

And it's the same thing. It's the same type of feminist that's failed in Hollywood where they make. They want to put more women in movies. But the movies that have to make it at the big budget box office stuff have to be spy thrillers. They have to be.

[Tim Pool]

I don't want superheroes. I don't want to see no woman doing man stuff.

[Mary]

Well then that's the thing though. See the problem is what they don't understand is they think that by putting the female characters in the male role that they're going to bring in the female audience, not understanding that the women will come for it anyways because they want to see the male in that role too. Yes, they're doing this right now. Okay, so they just released the information that Jeff Bezos, after finding out that Barbara Broccoli, after they bought mgm was like, they came to Barbara Broccoli, who's the one who shepherded James Bond through Ian Productions, they said, here's what we want to do. We want to do a money penny series. We want to do a female James Bond. And they're. And she's like, these people are idiots. And Jeff Bezos is like, I don't care how much money you have to pay her. Pay her so we can get, get rid of her. They gave her a billion dollars. They gave her a billion dollars because she understands that. Whatever you want to say about past casting, men want to be him, women want to be with him. And for the last 15 years, they have fought that tooth and nail trying to put women in the roles that men want. When they don't understand that women want to see the men there too.

[Brett Dasovic]

Real quick, what was the last James Bond where he had a black female?

[Mary]

No time to die.

[Brett Dasovic]

No time to die. Because they're, they're trying to set her up to be either as, as a spin off movie or a principal character. They keep trying to do this thing where they're like, women want to be action stars.

[Mary]

No, they do not.

[Brett Dasovic]

And the proof is in the pudding. Look at Marvel's. So Captain Marvel made it, made what, like a billion dollars? The first one. Not because it's a strong woman.

[Mary]

This was right before endgame.

[Brett Dasovic]

It was right before endgame and they said this was going to tie directly into it. And people thought Marvel movies are good. I. This one. And guess what happened in the Marvel's the sequel. It was a massive flop.

[Mary]

Made $43 million its opening weekend. It ended up making like less than 400.

[Brett Dasovic]

It did not recover its budget, as.

[Mary]

Far as I know, well under its budget.

[Brett Dasovic]

And it's, it's ridiculed. The crazy thing is they said the Marvel team was, was pumping out PR, that that Brie Larson would replace Robert Downey Jr. As the principal character bringing the MCU together. So as we know, for those that watch the Marvel movies, Iron man really kicked it off. The Hulk movie people didn't really care for.

[Mary]

Except for watch Captain America, Brave New world. And you have to. It ends up freaking Hulk.

[Brett Dasovic]

When Iron man, the first movie comes out, Robert Downey Jr. Steals the show and, and makes ridiculous amounts of money. And so all of a sudden, they start creating these movies. And Iron man is the single is a central piece of this, of the set. They said, okay, after endgame, right? Who do we have after Iron Man? Captain Marvel will take over. So they tried to jam Brie Larson, an unlikable human, like, I'm sorry, like, I mean this with no disrespect, but she is very unlikable, into this action star role that was despised. And they tried. Backlash was immense. Revenue collapsed. Kevin Feige reportedly last August started firing all the woke producers. I'm sure you know more about this than I do. And now Brie Larson's nowhere to be found.

[Tim Pool]

Damn.

[Brett Dasovic]

She appears passively sometimes in some of these, these films. She'll, she'll make a brief appearance. She was supposed to be Iron man, but people did not want to see women doing man stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Well, here's my thing, Wayne. Like Lara Croft.

[Brett Dasovic]

I think that's rare.

[Tim Pool]

And earlier, why did we like Lara Croft?

[Brett Dasovic]

She had big triangle boobs.

[Tim Pool]

This is what I'm saying.

[Mary]

They're not allowed.

[Tim Pool]

As the girl in GTA got a big booty. Because a lot of black men play gta. If she got a big booty and she's got some cabas, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a go. It's gonna be a go.

[Brett Dasovic]

Now, you are not wrong.

[Tim Pool]

Now, if she comes out and she's a stud, we might have a problem. If she's not hot. If she, if she don't get.

[Mary]

That's its own issue in video games. The, is the way they draw the female characters now.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, so, so I, I, I go back to the old, like, World of Warcraft days, and there was a viral meme because everybody knew that, like, you're playing World of Warcraft, their female characters run around as a guy, okay, there's no women playing World of Warcraft. There were some, but it was 80, 20, and you'd be on. We use team speak. What was the other you guys play? We use team speak. So we're doing a raid. I'm like, on garage. We got 40 people. And, like, you know, out of 40, 17 are female characters. But we're in team chat, and it's all guys. And the meme that went viral at the time was, if I'm gonna stare at an ass all day, it's gonna be a girls Correct. The dudes weren't playing female characters because they wanted to be female warriors. They wanted to see the, the woman in the bikini running around, bouncing around. That's why in World of Warcraft and all these games, you would, you would, your character would defeat the dragon or whatever and the dragon would drop the. The guardians armor of eternal force. And when the man put it on, he's in this ridiculously decked out scale armor. When the woman put it on, it was a bikini. Same, same item for a female character was a bikini for a man was this ridiculous big suit. Because the guy just wanted to watch naked women run around.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I'm saying. So I think, you know, the GTA characters, you know, you could run in, they gonna have the main character, she gonna be running around with her ass up. I mean her butt out. I think that's what's gonna happen. But I think it's gonna be like GTA V where you get to switch between characters. They're all gonna have their different role, but I think it's gon Bonnie and Clyde thing and I think that's going to be fun.

[Brett Dasovic]

But basically, when, when we look at why these games move in that direction, it was largely feminist politics, largely pushed by, by women targeting female demographics, and it never worked. Now when you look at Marvel rivals once again, like I'll say this, they introduced Sue Storm and the way they draw superheroes has always been their naked bodies that are colored. And it, and it looks like they're wearing unitards, but they're literally drawing. And this is, this is, this is a well known fact. Yeah, exactly. It's well known fact that in comic books superheroes are typically drawn as nude, but they color the body. They don't give them clothing, they don't give them suits. You see every vein, every muscle. They're basically naked bodies.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I love it. Yeah, I want to see. Here's my issue with what I saw online. What I saw online were conservatives saying, oh my God, why is she twerking on the top of a cop car? And I go, what? That's when I said, that's woke right to me. This is Grand Theft Auto. You've been to the strip club in Grand Theft Auto. Like it's a degenerate game. It's supposed to be degenerate behavior.

[Mary]

Like, wait till you see what else happens.

[Brett Dasovic]

I gotta be honest, like I, I'm gonna play gta. I never played the story. I absolutely hate that when you like in GTA, I think with GTA 5. You had to do the initial story to get through it, so you could actually just run around the city and do whatever you wanted. I hate the story. I don't care.

[Tim Pool]

I love this story. Let me tell you why I love the story. Because every mission is from a heist movie. So it's like if you.

[Brett Dasovic]

In every game.

[Tim Pool]

At least the last one.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the one was you play Scarface in. Was that Vice City? I think it was Vice City. You're playing Scarface. So I'm like. I'm reliving being Scarface. I love that. But the last one, you've got scenes from Italian Job that you relive. Right. It's all different heist movies. It's not like they recreate the missions. They steal them directly from movies. And that's what I love about it, I gotta say.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, here's. Here's an article. And this is like a clip, apparently, of, like, the character. I guess I'm so. What's the right word? Put off by the attempt of shoehorning this stuff into games. My tolerance is gone. Is gone. On. It's zero. So have you seen the Dragon Age thing?

[Tim Pool]

I have not.

[Brett Dasovic]

I gotta show. Okay, well, let's do this. For those that don't know Dragon Age, veilguard woke. It's a. It's a. It's a default search. It is a. Google already has it pulled up. This is a. This is a AAA video game that bombed. And look at this. They say this is from the 24th. Vailgard's clumsy, preachy political messaging does more harm than good.

[Tim Pool]

She's not hot.

[Mary]

No buts of millions of dollars it costs, too.

[Brett Dasovic]

Do they have the video in here? Here you go. You ready for this one? So I'm going to play this for you. What they're saying now is the game didn't resonate with a large enough audience. I wonder why. Listen to this.

[E]

Pounding that snake's nose. She's still holding the ruby in her other hand.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's not expanding. So I'm opening up an X. Let's play it.

[E]

Pounding that snake's nose, she's still holding the ruby in her other hand. Makers panties. I was so proud.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh. Ah.

[E]

They. They're still holding it.

[Brett Dasovic]

Sorry. Watch, watch, watch.

[Mary]

What are you doing?

[E]

Pulling above.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay.

[E]

Above tradition in the Lords of Fortune from one of our old members, Barb. Good guy. But like most of us, his plans went sideways a lot. Bad blood among your crews, not good for morale. But there's not always time for big drawn out apologies. So when one of us screws up and we know we've screwed up, we do a quick 10 to put it right. Pulling above.

[Brett Dasovic]

Pretty sure a 3 minute explanation and 10 push ups with an explanation of. With pulling a bar as a name of it is a long drawn out apology. But this is two and two. Two minutes long.

[E]

Here we go.

[Brett Dasovic]

You are forced to interact with this. Here you go. That's very open, open minded. I'm glad the laws of fortune have Tash's back.

[E]

Oh, Tash isn't the first non binary member of the law.

[Brett Dasovic]

No.

[Phil Labonte]

I wonder why this was a brother.

[Brett Dasovic]

Huh?

[E]

Bastard looked better than I did in a dress or pants.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[E]

And out of them too.

[Brett Dasovic]

Look it, look it. Here you go.

[Tim Pool]

Any reason you can't just apologize?

[E]

Sometimes. Sometimes people say oops, sorry and hope that fixes it, but they just want to get the whole thing over with. Trust me, I know. But pulling a bath, you sweat a little, makes you think about a little more. Shows the other person you mean it.

[Mary]

What if they mean it when they say they're sorry though?

[E]

And that's the other reason.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh, we don't need to hear the rest of this. Clearly the developers were intending to make pulling a bar of a thing among people. This game bombed. Look, I love Dragon Age. It's a great game. I did not play this one. I will never touch that controller. I will never. It's a free game now, so that's the big news. It's been out for a couple months and it's available now as a free download for PS plus and the like.

[Mary]

Look, men love games and movies that set you out on adventures. Women love stories where you sit around and talk and pull bars and pull barbs.

[Tim Pool]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't let my kids play this game. I unplugged the police station if they was playing just walk by.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oops.

[Tim Pool]

I remember we were playing not the last Spider man, but the Spider man before that. And it was like this extra mission and then you get the BLM costume and cause my kids, you know, I brainwash them with the right wing politics, you know, so they were like, oh.

[Brett Dasovic]

My God, look at the black lives matter on the wall.

[Tim Pool]

Oh my God. I was like, see? And I teach them. I said they'll put the propaganda right in the video games. It's absolutely disgusting. That's terrible.

[Mary]

Show them the Middle Eastern version of that game that doesn't have the pride flags.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Mary]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You can't pull that in the middle.

[Mary]

Well, because they. It's still from a company that wants to sell things in other regions. Right. So they're only, they're only politically correct here.

[Tim Pool]

Correct.

[Brett Dasovic]

So. So basically my view is. Is largely this. My tolerance for anything like that. It. There is some rumors that they want to do a Bonnie and Clyde style thing, which means it's not going to be a female protagonist. It's gonna be one or the other.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't care.

[Tim Pool]

You're gonna play, you're gonna play as both.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna buy the game.

[Tim Pool]

You're not gonna buy this one?

[Brett Dasovic]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Why.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm gonna wait a month or two and then just see what happens first.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Cuz I'm too jaded from. It's not just, it's not just that they're, they're, they're making it a woman. Like it's really not that big a deal. Yeah, it's. I don't trust these games. You get any inkling of like they're trying to go in that direction and I would be like I'm gonna wait a month.

[Tim Pool]

GTA is usually they. There's.

[Mary]

It's a very different game in a decade.

[Brett Dasovic]

How was the last game? 12 years ago.

[Tim Pool]

But it's Trump's ever now.

[Mary]

Yeah, but this wasn't. They didn't.

[Phil Labonte]

It was made during the. Well in the past 10 years.

[Tim Pool]

I got, I got, I got, I got faith in Rockstar. If you listen to the radio during GTA 5, they were making fun of the woke stuff in GTA 5. You remember that? You listen to the radio. They make fun of liberals through the entire game. I'm telling you so.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But I could only imagine what's going to happen here.

[Phil Labonte]

I want you to be right.

[Brett Dasovic]

I want you to be right too. I just think 10 years is a long. What was it when was five made? 2013.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. It was a minute it.

[Brett Dasovic]

And, and in that time, 10 years, you have a 16 year old woman 10 years later she's 26 and she's working at these companies and these companies are gonna be different like Bud Light.

[Tim Pool]

My only issue is, you know, she just not that pretty, man. You know they could have got AOC to. You know.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's the sign. Look, look at. That's the sign. Yeah, look it. Okay, I'm gonna pull this up for you guys.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's a bad sign. Her face is a bad sign. It's. It's a little too thick. Her face is. It's too bulgy. You know the geometry is off on her face.

[Brett Dasovic]

Let me see if I can can find the Sue Storm. I think this is it right here.

[Tim Pool]

Looks like she had too many burritos. She's a go tita.

[Brett Dasovic]

So this is what they did for Marvel Rivals. And the women there are drawn like they're naked. I'm not. Right. And so the issue is whenever they start making frumpy women in these games, it's like I don't trust. If. If Rockstar was being rock star, she would be.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

A little bit more over the top.

[Tim Pool]

Arms. Her arms are big. Her arms are big, man. You know, she's been at Clucking Bell too many times.

[Mary]

And your attitude is actually really, really, like, common now. For me, it's the same way, like, if I start a new show, I tell you all the time, look, I don't have any faith in new media that comes out. So if there's like a new show that comes out, it takes about four episodes of me where they have to get it right 100% of the time. If anything sticks out to me as particularly noticeable with like, over the top political messaging, I just turned it off immediately because it's not worth it.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, I'm black. Y'all don't know how bad it is to be black. Cuz I can't watch a black show and not run into this stuff. You know what I'm saying? I'm sitting around watching Power. Power is one of my favorite.

[Mary]

Power is the first season of Power is one of my favorite television seasons ever.

[Tim Pool]

You cannot go through a season and not get something that's woke. And I'm like, damn, they even got my boy 50.

[Brett Dasovic]

The new.

[Mary]

The new. The new. I didn't watch anything past the original.

[Tim Pool]

Everything black got something in there that's woke.

[Mary]

The. The introduction to Ghosts in that show is one of the greatest introductions to a character ever.

[Tim Pool]

What.

[Brett Dasovic]

What show you guys talking about?

[Mary]

Power. With Omari Hardwick and I guess 50 Cent TV show. TV show. TV show. 50 Cent produced it. Was it Courtney?

[Brett Dasovic]

What was it about?

[Mary]

It's about a drug kingpin who runs a nightclub. And it's really, really freaking good. At least that first three or four seasons were really, really freaking good. Gangster Joseph Sikora plays one of the greatest villains you'll ever see. And he's the. He's. What's funny about it is so Ghost is like this guy, he's a drug kingpin, he runs a nightclub, but really he's a dude who's kind of torn between worlds Worlds. He wants to go legit. And the whole show is about him kind of dreaming about going legit, not being able to do so. But Underworld keeps. Exactly. But his best friend wants none of it and actually laughs at him at the idea of ever going legit. And they made the white dude the absolute unrepentant street dude. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

It's pretty. Tommy's pretty.

[Mary]

Yeah, Tommy's amazing. But that's. Everyone should at least watch the first three or four seasons of that show.

[Tim Pool]

You're lucky you're white, man. This white privilege is being able to watch something without wokeness. That's where we.

[Mary]

I mean, not a whole lot, but, well, is.

[Brett Dasovic]

So you're saying. Wait, you're saying power. It didn't have. Listen, Israel is not woke.

[Tim Pool]

They have some wokeness. It's not woke, but they slide.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's all like that later. I just saw that Movie Companion. Have you guys heard of the Movie Companion?

[Mary]

Heard of it, have not seen it.

[Brett Dasovic]

So I just watched it. The trailer is miserably awful. So it's like. I'm on Amazon and I, I saw that and the, the, the, the trailer in like the, the movie's thumbnail, I guess you'd call, looks like a guy whispering to a robot woman and his companion. So my assumption was it must be about a guy who was like a fake robot wife or whatever. Then you watch the trailer and the trailer just looks like some weird chick flick drama. And I'm like, I'm watching that. And today I was like, well, you know, we watched everything else. We put it on. It is, in fact about a guy who has a robot wife. Wife. And for some reason it's a guy and his robot wife and a gay couple. And I'm like, okay, listen, it's fine. When sometimes there's a. There's gay characters in a movie. The problem is every single studio has says, hey, we should put a gay couple. We should have two guys hook. Hooking up in this film. And it's like, guys, when you all do it, it's just, it's weird that it's 100% of films doing it. So that's, that's, that's the woke stuff stuff, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

For whatever reason, they decided they're going to put all of this gay stuff in all these films. And it's just, it just. Every movie now.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You know, so now I gotta watch white stuff. Like Tulsa King.

[Mary]

Tulsa King's good too.

[Tim Pool]

It's amazing.

[Mary]

I would check out paradise with Sterling.

[Tim Pool]

K. Brown paradise is my what? That's my joint.

[Brett Dasovic]

What is that about?

[Mary]

It's. Well, the world comes to an end and they have to build a world underground. And they select 25,000 people to go live underground. And the President.

[Tim Pool]

Remember how Truman show had that fake world?

[Mary]

It's kind of of like Wayward Pines meets the Truman show, right? Sterling K. Brown is probably one of the best actors working today. But even in that there's a little, little bit of, like a little bit the, the, the white characters are all kind of like vile and they have layers. But Sterling K. Brown isn't really allowed to do that. He has to kind of be perfect all the time because they don't want to risk any of the black characters seeming like they could be bad guys. So they're all what the, the term in culture is soulful saints, meaning they can't have any flaws whatsoever. And it does him a disservice because he doesn't get to stretch his legs as an actor while all the other characters get to be like, like his best friend. They think he's a bad guy. He is a bad guy.

[Tim Pool]

You're even suspecting a while like, like.

[Mary]

They, the end of the episode, they're like, you can't trust Billy and he's just got the meanest face you've ever seen in entire life. Ends up, he's flawed, but he's still like, he's still friends with him. He gets layers. But the other characters don't. Because the writers are terrified to write characters that are not white in anything other than perfect.

[Tim Pool]

Is.

[Mary]

I'm saying they should hire me. I could just tell them I can't write it, but I'll be like, hey, fix this.

[Brett Dasovic]

What, what I don't understand in all of these things is why they haven't figured it out yet, but we all have. It's like, hey, I got an idea. Remember Iron Man 1? You made a billion dollars off it and launched this big multi billion dollar franchise we all loved. Now look at what you're making with Captain America. Brave New World. Can you now see the difference?

[Phil Labonte]

Even if they figured it out like a year ago, they've still got all this stuff that's been in production for months.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

It's gonna take times for the stuff for it to actually filter out into society. I, I imagine there are a lot of people in Hollywood and in, you know, in, in the entertainment industry that are like, look, this isn't good. This is not working. We need to change right now, immediately. We need to do what we can to patch up the things that have not been released yet that are just starting production. We need to start production on things that are not that. Do not focus on these type of topics.

[Tim Pool]

What's gonna happen is we're gonna start moving to foreign films. Like the platform, right?

[Brett Dasovic]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

I thought that was phenomenal.

[Brett Dasovic]

I didn't see that one. What was that one about?

[Tim Pool]

How do you even describe the platform? So basically there's this platform, right? So let's say you've done something wrong. Like what's the thing with the game? Squid games. Right? It's like squid games, but there's this platform and basically you have like, let's say floor one and then floor 100. And everybody gets to have their favorite food added to this platform. So as it gets to the bottom, naturally by the time it's the bomb, ain't nothing but bones. But then there's like this lottery and then shuffle. So you get put on a different platform and then it gets really gory.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's a. But where are people living on the platform or something?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's like jail. It's jail. So the platform low is like, eh. You got like two minutes. You gotta eat what you can or you get crushed. You can get. People get crushed. People get tossed over. It gets really bloody and gory. Right. So it's just. My point is there's a lot of foreign writing. For example, Black Mirror. Black Mirror was great, season one and two. Cause they had the foreign writers. As soon as they passed it on to Netflix and sold it off, you could tell where the writers changed.

[Mary]

They're not bogged down the same identity politics that we are here in America.

[Brett Dasovic]

But I'll tell you, The Squid Games 2 sucked and was woke.

[Tim Pool]

I didn't watch it. I refused.

[Brett Dasovic]

It was.

[Tim Pool]

I heard you and other people say it. I'm like, I don't watch it.

[Brett Dasovic]

Don't watch it. It was. It was. It was. I was skipping through a lot of it. So basically what they did was they said, we have an idea. The first, I would say, like the beginning is really good.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Brett Dasovic]

And then the first episode is like. Starts off kind of slow, gets a little good, goes a little bad. Second episode is a little good and then just falls completely off. And there's no ending. It's a fake. It's a fake season. It's where they draw it out as long as possible. And then it ends without any conclusion to anything happening. So nothing ends. And they have a trans character in the show who is invincible and can do no wrong and saves everybody. And they spend probably like, I don't know, a decent amount of the show explaining why it's so. It starts with an old woman in the squid games seeing the trans person and getting mad. And then they start explaining to you why it's okay to be trans. Then they have the trans person save a bunch of people and be the hero. Then the trans, like, it's, it's. And I'm like, dude, I don't care if you have a trans person in the show, but you're beating me in the face with the, with the bag of a sack of sweet Valencia oranges over here, man.

[Tim Pool]

I wouldn't have made it through the first episode, man.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's not the first episode though. It's like by episode three.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

So I'm. I'll give you a partial spoiler, right? Main character dude from the first one. Some stuff happens. He finds himself back in the game. You'd see that through the trailer. So the first episode, he's not in the game. Then he's in the game. And in the game they introduce new characters. There's an old woman and she's like, why does that man look like a woman? And then everyone's like, you can't say that that person is transgender. Then they end up teaming up with a trans person. Then during the games, the trans person saves the day by being able to help people perform tasks they couldn't perform. And it is ham fisted and punching you in the face over and over again, screaming, empathize with this person. They're a good person. And then it just stops. The show just ends. I'm gonna tell you, watch the show. There's probably one episode's worth of story over eight episodes, and then it just ends without resolving anything. So actually, imagine you have an hour long show. It reaches the end of Act 2, you're approaching the climax, and then right. Right before the climax of the show, it ends, it rolls credits, and that's it. Now normally you'd be like, let's watch the next episode right now imagine the whole show was that. And you're basically waiting. Boring, boring, boring, boring, boring, boring. Oh, man, something's happening. And then the season's over and you. And you're like, but nothing happened. That's squid Game. I just.

[Tim Pool]

This is terrible.

[Brett Dasovic]

So pissed.

[Mary]

That is one of the reasons that streaming is struggling is like TV was better when it was 22 episodes a year and you got a bunch of filler episodes. Now every episode is filler. And it's eight episodes with really about one episodes, where the story that they drag out, even paradise moves a little slow.

[Brett Dasovic]

But hold on, hold on.

[Tim Pool]

Paradise does move a little slow.

[Brett Dasovic]

The first squid game was good.

[Tim Pool]

It was great.

[Brett Dasovic]

And. And they had something with season two, but instead of saying, hey, let's finish our story in eight episodes, they said, let's take. Okay. So I. I imagine they have a story to fill eight episodes. They probably wrote out the treatments, episode one, two, three, four. By episode three, they said, stop, don't use any of the remaining treatments we have, and end the season on episode three. But we need eight episodes. Stretch episode three out to eight episodes. Okay? And so that's basically what it is. And then they say, wait, wait, but don't end episode three, because episode three ends with a cliffhanger. It's supposed to go in episode four. Right. So it just. Basically, you get five episodes where. I'm gonna tell you, probably a half an hour of each episode is people sitting in the waiting room talking. I'm not kidding.

[Mary]

Yep.

[Brett Dasovic]

So, you know. You know, in squid games, they have the big waiting room with the bunk beds.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Half of each episode is people just.

[Mary]

Hanging out, talking, and it's cheaper to do that.

[Brett Dasovic]

And. And in a couple of episodes, half of it is talking about why it's good to be trans.

[Tim Pool]

I bet you if you look it up, they probably. Netflix probably bought the rights from the writers and then took it over. That. I guarantee, if you look it up, that's probably what happened. Happen.

[Brett Dasovic]

Maybe because the original guy who made it was like, here's my story. By.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

I said, how can we make more money off it?

[Tim Pool]

Right? Yeah, because that's what Netflix does. They. They see something that's great, a series that's got a brand, and they're like, we can milk this. And that dude's like, I only wrote one season.

[Mary]

You know, here's the problem, though, is Netflix is the most dominant of those streamers, and it's not even close.

[Brett Dasovic]

Not even close.

[Mary]

Like, seven out of the 10 top shows every week are consistently Netflix.

[Brett Dasovic]

Here's. Here's the other thing. I think severance is awful, and I couldn't get past the first episode. In fact, when he walked for two minutes, I turned it off.

[Mary]

Imagine watching Apple tv.

[Brett Dasovic]

I know, Seriously. But people say severance is great. Okay? Lost is. Is evil garbage, and from. Is evil garbage. And then I was told that Severance is very much like Lost and from. All the same. And I said, I don't watch those fake shows. These are fake shows. And I mean it. The way a fake show works. Like, anybody who's watched Lost knows it's a fake show. And if you've watched from a fake show, the way it works is we. We. We will be in. Okay, writer says, give me a nondescript location. How about it's a podcast studio, and the doors are all closed. Okay, why are they there? We don't know.

[Mary]

It's called the Mystery Box now, James. That's J.J. abrams.

[Brett Dasovic]

Okay, now they're there. So what happens when there's place? Well, clearly, they want to get out, right? Yes. And they're hungry. We're gonna need some kind of shock content by the end of the first episode. Otherwise, people will reboard. It won't come back. Okay, so in the first episode, they're trapped in a podcast studio. The doors won't open. Nobody remembers how they got there, and they start arguing with each other because they're hungry and there's nowhere to go. Bathroom. So then you have some conflict there. And then we're gonna do it at the end of the episode. We're gonna have a loud roar, shake the building, and then all of a sudden, you're gonna hear banging on the door and scratching. And then the characters look at each other. The show ends. Show ends.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

Okay, next episode, it starts, and you hear the door. The door breaks open, and then splinters go flying, like, whoa, what happened? And then there's nothing there. Nobody's there. So basically, fake shows. The way they work is writers will write probably one page and say, have them fight with each other. And then only at the last minute, I don't know, a dragon screams, and you hear a screech. And then the next episode, they go, okay, so why was the dragon screeching? The dragon is underground. Okay, great, let's start that. And then at the end of this episode. What happens at the end of this episode? Lava bursts from the floor. Okay. The episode ends. That's how from is. You ever watch From?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Brett Dasovic]

And what I was told was it's kind of how Severance is as well. But I stopped watching Severance because it started doing this, so I turned it off. It shows where they clearly haven't written it. They say, give us a premise of people trapped. And then at the end of every episode, insert a random thing so famously from. The guy finds a lighthouse, and then. And then he hears a music box. And then he turns around, and there's a music box on the ground, and he's shaking. And the episode ends. Nothing happened. But they. That's a fake show, right? Nothing's happening.

[Mary]

Everybody knows that alias is J.J. abrams Best Work.

[Brett Dasovic]

We're gonna go to super chats, smash the like button, share the show with everyone. You know, explain to me why you think Severance is a good show. Because I. I turned it on, and then I don't know the actor's name, but he walked through a hall for a minute and a half. I looked at Allison, she looked at me. We shrugged, and we turned it off. No, I'm not kidding. You. You have. You watched it, right?

[Mary]

I just. I make fun of Apple TV constantly. I just. I don't have a monocle. I'm not. I'm not highbrow enough to watch.

[Phil Labonte]

People.

[Brett Dasovic]

People apparently love those shows. They love loss. They love from. They love severance. And I don't know how much severance is like that, because I refuse. As soon as I get an inkling they're doing that, I stop watching it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

So I just. Off. All right, here we go. We're gonna grab super chats and rumble rants from y'all. Change. Wilder says, happy Friday, guys. Brett has asked everyone to remember to help the Brett Dasovic foundation to save the Gongo. He is passionate about this.

[Mary]

Yes, I told him about it last night. Yeah, you have to. You had to explain we were making fun of the people. When you're complaining about something online, like, how can you care about this issue when there's a genocide going on in Gaza or a. A femicide going on in the Congo? And I screwed it up, and I said femigenocide in the Gongo.

[Brett Dasovic]

Genocide.

[Mary]

I think I said genocide in the Gongo, but we'll just say it's a FEMA genocide.

[Phil Labonte]

It's my favorite meme in a long time.

[Mary]

Yeah, it's very good. We can save them, guys.

[Brett Dasovic]

Nixon says, Tim, bring back the best docu series ever made. Kotr. Where there's a will, there's a way, good sir. Are you saying King of the Road.

[Mary]

Knights of the Old Republic.

[Brett Dasovic]

I thought the first thing I thought was Knights of the Old Knights. But that's Ktor.

[Mary]

Yes.

[Brett Dasovic]

Wait, wait, Knights of. No, it's. Yeah, it is kto because of. It's Kotor. It's K O T O R. Or.

[Mary]

It could be King of the Ring.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah. King of the Road was a skateboard thing where they had, like, a handful of teams, were each given tasks they had to perform and then told to go on this road trip, and they'd film themselves trying to do things where it would be like funded it.

[Mary]

That sounds awesome.

[Brett Dasovic]

I think these people didn't get paid a lot of money.

[Mary]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

But it would be like you have, you have a list, a to do list on your trip. And it's, you know, it's not real rules. No. King of the Road was like skateboarders being told, you got a tray, flip a tent, stare, you've got a kickflip front board.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Mary]

There was a skate contest during COVID where every. Where everybody basically got tasks they had to go and film and then make edits.

[Tim Pool]

Y'all remember Road Rules?

[Brett Dasovic]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, that was great. Man. World and Robots. I was the beginning of reality tv.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Brett Dasovic]

Kenneth Hart says, Tim, didn't mean to put you on the spot. PCC is sort of becoming its own subculture. Went looking for a podcast while you're on Christmas break. Figured the audio wouldn't suck. Now I listen daily. You should listen to Pop Culture Crisis.

[Mary]

Monday through Friday, guys, at 3pm Eastern. What are you doing? You're at work. You're probably bored. Put one headphone in and watch. Come on.

[Brett Dasovic]

Pop Culture Crisis dot com.

[Mary]

Yes. You asked me that one time. I'm like, I have no idea.

[Brett Dasovic]

And yeah, terrible.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Because you were like, you were like YouTube.com popculture crisis and I was like. Or popculturecrisis.com and you go to timcast.com.

[Mary]

And you can find it on there as well.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah. If you go to timcast.com at 3:00, it's 1. What do we have here? Polypure says Tim is right about Obama. Obama was as tough as on illegals as Trump. Obama didn't have the big mess that old Joe had deported. He wasn't as. As tough, but he was the deporter in chief. People called him. Yeah. And then Joe came in and was like, open the door. Open surge the border. Jason Dixon says. Tim, great guest idea. Sinaski with quiet part out loud podcast from your Discord. He started from. From here. From your community. Join timcast.com indeed. And we are actually trying to find a way when we. We're gonna. We will have him booked and in the schedule.

[Mary]

That's awesome.

[Brett Dasovic]

So we definitely. We had Roman Nation on.

[Tim Pool]

Congratulations.

[Mary]

Yep.

[Brett Dasovic]

For those that don't know timcast.com you click join us. Then there's the Discord server. You sign up, you're in this community. 20,000 plus individuals all hanging out and we've had a handful of people launch podcasts in the server because everybody's there. Hanging out already. Imagine this. You go on the server and you're like, I'm gonna start a show, and there's 20,000 people just listening to your show right away. It's the coolest thing ever.

[Mary]

Whenever they do the post show, I would go in and spam. Fetterman 2028.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh, there you go. Let's see, what have we here? Down and out. Nashville says, congratulations, Tim. Great job on family. I've got one daughter and four beautiful grandkids. Everything else in life is just a bonus.

[Phil Labonte]

Wow.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's based. Very cool. Let's see. We got in the old rumble rants. What are y'all saying over here? All right, Fader says, how many wins are the Denver Broncos getting in the 2025 season? And is there an ETA on Tim cast sports? Can you get a joy. Can you get joy Reid to host? I think one of the easiest things we can do is actually Saturdays to start with Chuck and Kellen and, I don't know, maybe some other people and do a sports. Sports show. Ideally, we would do something every single day. We gotta figure out the space for it.

[Mary]

Yeah, you gotta put up a space to do it. Put it in one of the RVs.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, well, we were talking because we have. We have the two. The trailers that are set up to be mobile studios. The problem is the, like, A.C. summer.

[Mary]

It's insane.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right. And bathrooms. And so we. We. We could, you know, we could figure something out. All right, Evan for us says, did y'all see cash talk about the u. S. Army soldiers stealing u. S. Intelligence and how they'll face justice? I did. Yo, Cash is boost. You heard this?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

He announced that they arrested two dudes who were selling secrets. He's getting a business. Yep. Jamie brocadile says, hate playing politics, but I think trump should sit on the chauvin verdict till later in the term. Doing it now will only keep the racist BS Going, but let's get a pardon for jammy and save the brockadile. Okay.

[Mary]

That's a real hard one to get people to. To talk about. Right. Because it does involve getting into the nitty gritty of, like, the uncomfortable side of politics.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah. All right, let's see what else we have here. We'll pull up one of these super chats. Oh, what is this? What is this, Gandalf? The base says Gavin ends his term, endorses kamala for governor. Gavin leads a new podcast, grows new ideas, runs in 2028. He is gunning for the head of the party. Indeed he is.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yep. Yeah. Hotel Llama says, should we email YouTube list of channels doing illegal ads now so they don't get caught before it's too late? There are so many channels that are doing ads that are illegal or in violation of YouTube's rules. I'm not going to get into it. But, yo, I tell you this, every day I have ad sales. People will be like, we've got the sponsor who wants to buy that spot. And then I say, awesome, let me check the policies and procedures of YouTube and our other distribution platforms. And then I come back and say, that ad is an instant strike on YouTube. You can't sell that product on YouTube. And they go, but everyone else does. Yeah. So the funny thing is, like, even knives we had, we had a company, super cool. It's a kitchen knife set. Yeah, yeah. You ain't doing that. YouTube's rules around knives are something to the effect of, like, it's fine to advocate to do ad reads for kitchen utensils. So long as they're not weapons, you're good luck. YouTube's gonna be like, we got you.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And they'll make some argument. They'll make it up. But the crazy thing is. So what happened to. What happened to me was I did some ad reads 10 years ago for what I consider to be normal and legal products. Got. Got two videos taken down, but only one strike. I then appealed to YouTube and they ignored me. So I went to Google directly. The Google rep said they couldn't find anything in the video that actually broke any of you. This is. Check this out. The Google rep says, nothing in your video violates the YouTube guidelines. And I said, can you. So can you tell me why I got a strike? And they said, we're not entirely sure. Give me a minute. Ten minutes later they said, we've removed the strike from your. From your channel and restored the video with a smiley face. We're sorry this happened to you. And I said, thank you so much. So what I did was I went to YouTube. Help you. You find your way through to chat and you get a rep. And what happened was I, I learned this later from my YouTube rep. I immediately deleted the videos. And they told me your videos didn't. Those strikes were real. They should have stayed on your channel or that strike was real, should have stayed on your channel. The videos should have remained suspended. The reason why the rep didn't know what was going on is because they, they thought this is a YouTube strike. Violent YouTube's rules. And what they didn't realize is that YouTube strike can be applied based on AdWords rules. So Google AdWords has rules for ad reads for advertisers that apply to YouTube creators as well. But it's not listed on the YouTube rules. To which I responded. You mean to tell me that even though I looked at all the rules and double checked to make sure I'm, everything I'm saying is totally fine, I can still get a strike? Because I didn't know there were extra rules based on ad reads. And they said yes. So since then I have been like, well, okay, now that I know that YouTube has advertising rules that apply to a YouTube, to a podcast, whatever, you're on YouTube. YouTube ad rules are like no guns. You cannot advertise guns. You cannot advertise inhalants of any kind, those things. So that means no shouting out these brands. No shouting them out or anything like that. Those aren't listed in YouTube's rules. YouTube does have rules. Like you can't have guns on camera. I'm sorry. YouTube's rules are no live streaming of guns, any ever. And gun content must be in approved locations like gun shops and ranges.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, what if you got guns in your background?

[Brett Dasovic]

That's fine. You can't touch them.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Brett Dasovic]

Decorative guns are fine. You cannot advertise them. But the rules on advertising are ad rules, not YouTube guideline rules. So it may have changed, they may have overlapped them. But I do know that if you go to ad rules, you will find inside insane. It is a, it is a encyclopedia of rules. Because there's so many rules and regulations on various products that here's another thing for you. If it's illegal federally, it's a bannable offense on YouTube. Doesn't matter what your state says. Just something people should understand. So when the feds say you cannot sell pharmaceutical drugs and you got a bunch of these independent anti establishment guys doing ads for pharmaceutical drugs and they are, they're going to get banned. Yep. And you can just Google it. I'm not going to, I'm not going to.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody go ahead, type it in your calendar.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't want to put any of the spot. For one reason. You say, you say the name of the individual who has done something like.

[Tim Pool]

This and they're going to say you targeted you attack.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, the left is going to immediately bombard and go after those channels.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, that's true.

[Brett Dasovic]

So I'm saying this right now more generally speaking, because the people who are out there like, like I've talked to people, I've told them March 7 cast.

[Tim Pool]

Called it market calendars listeners.

[Brett Dasovic]

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it gets overlooked completely.

[Tim Pool]

Remember this?

[Brett Dasovic]

But again, I'm gonna say this, when Dr. Malone was leaving, and I hope he doesn't mind, he mentions, I mentioned something we said, you know, as we were leaving. But I explained him, like, there's a lot of channels that are doing ad reads for prescription drugs. And he said, I know. I can't believe the FDA hasn't gone after them for this. And I was like, I don't think Trump's FDA will. I think YouTube will, under the guise of the FDA, says that you're not allowed to do this.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

So.

[Tim Pool]

And thing is, they could let it accumulate so that you'll get the strike, and then a week later they'll hit another video, and then now you got three strikes.

[Brett Dasovic]

Now you're gone. Or to elaborate on what you're saying, you'll get one strike and be suspended for a week. You'll come back for a week or two, you'll get a second strike and be gone for two weeks. Then they'll wait for one strike to go away within three months and then keep hitting you, reducing your content output by. Let's just say it's 8%. But that's the math game they're playing. People who are pro Trump and anti establishment, we need to suppress them by 7% and boost liberals by 7% so that everybody flows in one direction and then they avoid the ban problem. You ban someone, you create a massive PR campaign. Lawsuits conflict legal challenges, suppress them, and you effectively do the same thing. So instead of banning one big person like Alex Jones, they would have been better. Better off lightly suppressing 10 channels by 10% instead of one channel by 100%. They learned that lesson. It's common. It's coming. Yep. All right, but who? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's ignored. I don't think I'm wrong, though. Trud Jones says PCC will hit 800 episodes soon. Everyone should tune in because Brett and Mary will be holding a telethon for the Gango people being femogenic.

[Mary]

Okay, now they're scheduling my shows for me. I said none of this. But we do have episode 800 coming up. We just finished 792 today.

[Phil Labonte]

Geez.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it might be a marathon for the Gongo people.

[Mary]

Could be.

[Phil Labonte]

Could be.

[Brett Dasovic]

Tell us. Sterling Wilson says YouTube can nuke conservatives, but wouldn't that force people to use rumble YouTube Alphabet stock crashes and rumble skyrockets to the moon. Wahaha. No that's wrong. Now, I will say if Rumble stock will go up if more people start using it for these reasons. So if there's a prominent personality and they got two and a half million subs and they get banned on YouTube, they're absolutely going to be on Rumble. And that's really, really good for Rumble. But it's still an attempt to cut off an audience. I will stress this to all of you. We, we are live on rumble and on YouTube. And I guarantee you 80% of the people who watch the show had no idea, even though we say every day, subscribe Rumble Premium. So there are probably people who don't, don't understand why the uncensored show isn't on Timcast.com anymore. I am not disparaging people. I'm saying Mo, like most people don't get the memo because they watch the show for the content, not for the advertisements or the plugs. So they'll skip ahead when the show starts, ignore the plugs, listen to us talk, say, I love this show. And then, and when we get Super Chats and say, you know, that's fine, they read super chats, I'm out. And then they don't realize we're on other platforms. If YouTube nukes this show, they're gonna say, what happened? It's gone.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And then they're gonna be scrolling through YouTube. It won't pop up and they'll click something else. That's the way it works. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Share the show with everyone you know. Join us at Rumble Premium. Go to Timcast premium.com it'll redirect you right to Rumble to use promo code TIM10Sign up. Rumble has to win because for everything I've described, we need to be building these platforms now. And Rumble is a premier video video podcasting platform. If you're launching a video podcast, good luck on YouTube. You're not going to get monetized. You're likely going to get banned. That's the reality. Good luck on Spotify. Spotify is not bad, but their reaches is very, very low. Start on Rumble and you're going to start off with substantially higher viewership than anybody. I'll put it this way. We've been on Spotify for years. We got like 30,000 views per Spotify video on, on rumble, we get 300 and we just started. So it's 10x massive and, and Rumble is, is growing. So the opportunity now is to go with the platforms where, like the train is leaving the station. You're trying to play catch up on YouTube. Good luck. You're trying to play catch up on Spotify. Good luck. But Rumble is sitting there waiting for you to board. So you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast Hotep. Jesus. You want to shout anything out?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Grifty's, March 29th grifties.com March 29th tips, Tom. Tips Comedy Club, March 29th. We got Shane Cashman, we got Milo and Alex Stein under the same roof.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh, Lord.

[Tim Pool]

Shout out to Sonny Johnson, the whole crew. We are going this year again. Fifth annual Grifties. We're going to crown the grifter of the year live at Tips Comedy Club, March 29th. Get your tickets, guys.

[Mary]

If you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and on Twix at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. But you should check out Pop Culture Crisis. We are live here five days a week, Monday through Friday at 3pm Eastern. That's noon. If you're in Pacific time zone, come check it out, guys.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that remains on Twix. I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. You can check out our new record. It's called Antifragile. It's available on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Deezer. I think I got them all. Don't forget the left names for crime.

[Brett Dasovic]

We'll see you all throughout the weekend with clips on Tim Cast irl and then we're back Monday. Thanks for hanging out.