Democrat Boss ATTACKS STAFF, DNC Puts Up HQ For DESPERATE Loan w/ Will Fry

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL

Episode: Democrat Boss ATTACKS STAFF, DNC Puts Up HQ For DESPERATE Loan w/ Will Fry
Date: July 28, 2026
Host(s): Tim Pool (and crew: Brett, Phil, Carter)
Guest: Will Fry (American Operator)

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Episode Overview

This Timcast IRL episode revolves around the internal turmoil within the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the party’s mounting financial woes, and radical new policies proposed by leftist politicians. Tim and guests break down recent explosive stories: allegations of staff abuse by DNC leader Ken Martin, the DNC putting up its headquarters as loan collateral, Zoran Mamdani's controversial targeting of property owners and price-fixing government grocery stores in NYC, as well as the leak of "Biden tapes" and new insights into Dr. Fauci’s COVID-era conduct. The show further explores consequences of extreme socialism, immigration, and the global war climate, injecting dark humor and characteristic skepticism throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. DNC Turmoil & Financial Distress

• Ken Martin Allegations:

  • DNC chairman Ken Martin allegedly “threw a phone at an aide’s desk in a fit of rage,” resulting in an HR complaint.
    • Tim Pool (00:01): “Dude apparently lost his mind and threw his phone at the desk of an aide in a fit of rage...I would call that attacking a staffer.”

• DNC Pledges Headquarters for Loan:

  • The DNC reportedly offered its HQ as collateral for a $15 million loan due to financial desperation, a move Tim says signals a party in crisis.

    • Tim (07:16): “They had apparently ... listed their building, the equity in their building, as collateral for a loan of $15 million because they're broke... The Democratic Party's been in that bad of shape for this long.”

  • Fundraising & Debt:

    • Democrats are “bleeding money and donors,” hold $16-17 million in debt with only $12 million cash on hand, and risk running negative through midterms.
    • Will Fry (09:53): “But also think right now is when they're most flush. Ramping up to a reelection.”

• Party In-Fighting & Collapse:

  • Deepening rifts between establishment Democrats and the far-left, e.g. DSA, diminish party unity and fundraising prospects.

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2. The Left’s Radical Policies & Party Schism

• DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) Agenda:

  • The DSA’s platform is described as “incredibly radical,” including abolishing the presidency, prisons, and even the Senate, calling for the expropriation of major corporations and defunding the Department of Defense.

    • Phil (13:05): “They want to get rid of prisons...They want to abolish the presidency and you can't abolish the Senate.”

  • Tim and others argue these extreme stances may actually sabotage the left (“secret Republicans” theory), as they are “a caricature” that drags down Democratic polling.

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3. Zoran Mamdani & NYC Socialism Experiments

• Government Grocery Stores / Price Fixing:

  • Zoran Mamdani was criticized for opening five city-run, tax-funded grocery stores with prices set “30% below retail,” a policy Tim says will destroy local bodegas/grocery stores, cause shortages and “food deserts,” paralleling Venezuela’s economic collapse.

    • Tim (21:05): “You drop prices by 30%, you will put every grocery store around this out of business... It has to be on purpose.”

  • The "RoboCop Villain" Theory:

    • Tim posits that policies intentionally devastate the city so elites can buy up distressed property for cheap, referencing de Blasio-era plans and Robocop’s villain plot.

• Mass Doxxing of Property Owners:

  • Mamdani published names and addresses of all property owners potentially hit with a “pied-à-terre tax,” including private residences. Many view this as dangerous and a form of intimidation.
    • Tim (34:46): “He doxed everybody who owns valuable property...This is incredibly dangerous.”

• Class Envy & Anti-Millionaire Rhetoric:

  • Discussion of “tax the rich” advocates who don’t realize regular upper-middle-class earners (“BuzzFeed employees making 150k”) are closer to typical millionaires (median salary ~$165k).

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4. Biden Tapes & Fauci Diaries: Establishment Under Scrutiny

• Leaked Biden Ghostwriter Recordings:

  • Over 70 hours of Biden’s private conversations with his ghostwriter come to light as the story is breaking; Tim says this could have major political impacts (no analysis of tapes yet, as they’re new).

• Fauci’s COVID-19 Revelations:

  • Dr. Fauci’s private diary reportedly shows he knew in January 2020 the wet market was not the source of COVID—contradicting public statements for months—implying deliberate deception.
    • Tim (45:48): “Fauci already knew the wet market was not the source and he lied about all of it...because Covid was the product of Fauci's work...”
  • Debated whether Trump (if re-elected) will challenge or act on Biden's blanket 11-year pardon covering Fauci’s actions.

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5. Collapse of Meaning & The Welfare State

• Robotics, UBI, and the Abundance Trap:

  • Tim speculates on a future "abundance-driven extinction event," where people with no meaning become unhealthy and die young, as AI/automation remove the need to work.
  • Jokes about the potential for “government cheese” and subpar school lunches being the future of socialized food under leftist governance, referencing viral videos of “mucus-like” milk and gluey meals in schools.
    • Tim (64:38): “This is the world that the left wants for you. You'll live in the pod and you'll eat the bugs.”

• Crisis of Meaning:

  • Will Fry points out that if people have nothing to do (AI/UBI future), crisis of meaning takes over; retirees seek purpose, small business owners struggle to give up their roles.

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6. Immigration, Demography, & The Fate of Small Business

• Small Business at the American Core:

  • Will Fry discusses American Operator, which tackles the “succession crisis”—helping aging business owners sell to local operators rather than private equity to keep jobs and wealth local.
  • Importance of small business as the country’s most trusted institution and critical to social cohesion.
    • Will Fry (77:27): “If you start to destroy those, you just destroy social cohesion. Whatever we have left of it.”

• Regulatory Burden & Socialism’s Victims:

  • Over-regulation (esp. EPA) is said to crush small businesses; leftists “rail against the wealthy” but endanger local employers.

• Immigration as Demographic Crisis:

  • Phil argues that mass immigration post-1965 has changed American values, suggesting recent arrivals are less likely to bring “can do” attitudes than historic immigrants, affecting social stability.

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7. World War III Speculation

• Ukraine, Russia, Iran Conflict Merging:

  • Show ends with analysis of how Ukrainian strikes on Iranian supply lines are pulling the Iran and Russia conflicts together, warning this may signal escalation toward “World War III,” especially if China is pressured further by energy cutoffs.
    • Tim (90:09): “As this, this conflict grows, this just means China can now count...the Hormuz is not reopening after this. You’re not getting your oil back.”

• China’s Dilemma:

  • China faces potential energy starvation due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and pressure on Russia, placing it at a major decision point: accept decline or risk war.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On DNC Dysfunction:
  • “The Democratic Party’s been in that bad of shape for this long.” – Tim, (07:16)
• On Government Grocery Stores:
  • “You drop prices by 30%, you will put every grocery store around this out of business... It has to be on purpose.” – Tim, (21:05)
• On Fauci & Establishment Accountability:
  • “If your country can't stop evil, then you have succumbed to it.” – Tim, (15:26)
• On Political Realignment:
  • “At this point, these guys got to be like secret Republicans.” – Tim, (13:38)
• On “Tax the Rich” Hypocrisy:
  • “Go tell one of these New Yorker people who’s making 120 to 150 a year that with proper financial planning, they too will be a millionaire. And they’re not going to believe you and they’re going to demand that someone go and steal the money from everybody else.” – Tim, (19:45)
• On Crisis of Purpose:
  • “If folks don’t have to work at all...crisis of meaning though.” – Will Fry, (65:47)
• On the Left’s Goals:
  • “This is the world that the left wants for you. You'll live in the pod and you'll eat the bugs.” – Tim, (67:28)

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Key Timestamps

• 00:01–04:47: Introduction, DNC scandal, episode setup
• 05:10–10:43: Will Fry’s business, DNC finances, polling, party division
• 13:01–15:40: DSA goals, left party caricature
• 21:05–24:32: NYC’s socialist grocery experiment, discussion of Venezuela
• 34:46–36:06: Mass doxing of property owners discussion
• 45:48–52:15: Fauci’s diary, Biden tapes, political double standards
• 62:09–66:42: Star Trek utopia, AI/UBI future, school lunch memes
• 73:45–80:44: Small business legacy and its importance
• 82:01–90:09: Ukraine-Iran-Russia war merging, China’s resource challenge
• 90:09–105:23: World War III speculation and China’s predicament
• 106:38 to show close: Listener questions, movie industry conspiracy theories, outros

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Tone & Style

• The dialogue is direct, irreverent, and openly skeptical of establishment narratives, with dark humor.
• The cast is highly critical of both parties but particularly the deepening radicalism on the left and inaction of mainstream conservatives.
• Moments of comic relief include joking about “government slop” meals and social media viral culture, and Tim’s famously animated rants.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a rapid-fire blend of late-breaking political controversy, policy critique, and cultural observation, weaving together everything from the DNC’s financial crisis to global war anxiety and the existential risks and absurdities of technocratic socialism. Through the lens of Tim Pool and his panel, listeners get both grim forecasts and satirical riffs on America's political dysfunction in 2026.

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Transcript

[A]

The DNC boss, Ken Martin, threw a phone at an aide's desk, triggering an HR complaint. Actually, it sounds like he was in rage, attacking this staff. I don't know. Not like maybe trying to hurt the person, but whipping a phone at their desk could seriously hurt them. Well, here's the thing. The DNC has put up their headquarters as collateral for. For a loan because they are desperate and broke at a time when the Republicans have hundreds of millions of dollars, as the Republicans, not to mention their super PACs and political organizations in the periphery, put them at near $1 billion cash. It's a pretty wild day. We're gonna talk about that. And then Zoran Mamdani has just. Man, wow. The dude's really cranking up the dial to 11. He published a list. He doxed all of the property owners and entities that own property that he says will be subject to his pied a tear tax. However, some people have come out saying, yo, that's a private residence. That's not a secondary home. Dude lives there. In other words, Mandani is being accused of putting out a target list of wealthy individuals who live in the city. At the same time, he's announced they will be opening five grocery stores where they will put a. A 30% discount on all prices for all goods for the entire month. Okay, we're going to get into the. Into that in great detail, but I'm just going to tell you what that does. Destroys neighboring grocery stores because they can't compete with 30% lower prices. Results in shortages at the existing government grocery stores because now there's no other grocery stores that exist. And then eventually, with no groceries in the government grocery stores, you. You get food deserts. Mayor Mamdani is intentionally destroying the city. There's no other argument. I mean, we have seen in recent history with Venezuela, some 15 years ago, they did the exact same thing. We saw all of this happen, so. Seems like it's on purpose. And then, my friends, the secret Biden tapes are out. 70 plus hours, they're saying, of recordings of Joe Biden giving. He's talking to his ghostwriter. Apparently, these are the. These are the records that someone that they were trying to delete or hide or something like that. We'll.

[B]

We.

[A]

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[C]

We got will fry thanks for having me, Tim.

[A]

Who are you? What do you do?

[C]

Yeah, so I run a company called American Operator. We're tackling the succession crisis in this country. So we have millions of small businesses owned by folks near retirement. Their kids don't want to take over the business. We come in by the business partner with a local operator and ultimately turn them into the majority owner. And so we want a world where the American dream is still achievable and all these businesses are owned by private equity.

[A]

That would be fantastic.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Should be interesting because we had a lot to talk about, especially with the population crisis. So we talk about it quite a bit. But it'll be interesting with you here. Thanks for coming. We also got the boys hanging out.

[D]

What's going on, guys? It's been. Well, it hasn't been that long. I think it was here on Thursday last week. What's going on? It's Brett, normally doing PCC Monday through Friday at 3pm Eastern, but there's a lot to get into today. Happy to here.

[B]

What's up, everybody? I'm Phil. I sing for all the Remains, and I hang out here a lot.

[A]

What's up, Carter?

[E]

What's up, Carter? I do not sing for all that Remains, but I'm pumped to get into this right now. Welcome back, Brett. It's good to have you. Let's get into the news.

[A]

Here's a story from the New York Post. Raging DNC boss Ken Martin through phone at AIDS desk as committee forced to put up headquarters as loan collateral. It's a double whammy of a story today. Dude apparently lost his mind and threw his phone at the desk of an aide in a fit of rage. It resulted in an HR complaint. Now, I would say that isn't like. Would you guys agree? I know. I know the media tries to put their headlines lightly, but I would call that attacking a staffer.

[B]

I mean, if he hit him, that could be considered assault.

[A]

I don't. I don't think you need to. Like, you could attack somebody. Like, if someone shot at you, would you say they're attacking you?

[B]

Well, yes, but they don't hit you.

[A]

Like I'm saying, if this dude threw his phone at the aid and it hit their desk, was he trying to hit.

[D]

Well, is that like, the question of intentionality? Was he just throwing it wild and just happened to hit near the aid, or would the aide say something that annoys you know what F you specifically?

[A]

And it would be really funny if the actual story was that it was an underhanded Toss to another staffer. He's like, hey, you need my. He's like, hey, I need your phone. Oh, here, catch. And he, he does an underhanded toss and it bounced on the desk. But because we know Democrats are so dainty and terrified of everything, the person saying that's what started screaming. He's throwing his food at me.

[B]

If he, if the person, that his aide wasn't his aide, they might think to, you know, file an assault charge. But considering that they're, you know, two peas in a pot, I don't think that

[C]

someone had to tell.

[A]

Well, no, because I think what actually happened is dude went ballistic and whipped his phone.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think for a second it was just like a playful thing. I think he was freaking out and whipped it. Yo. The second part of this story is all just dropping today is that they had apparently, and this is, this was not known, but I believe was last year or several months ago, listed their building, the equity in their building, as collateral for a loan of $15 million because they're broke. The Democratic Party's broke. You know, my favorite thing about this is dude responds apparently and says, this is, this is not at all out of the ordinary. We've taken out loans in 2019, 2018 and 2014 as well. And it's like, wow, the Democratic Party's been in that bad of shape for this long.

[B]

I mean, I imagine the loan is because they're, they're, they believe they can, you know, make the money back through fundraising, but they need to pay.

[A]

Yes, they're in. I don't believe that for a second. Because they've been bleeding money and donors. The party is currently fighting itself and their three point something million dollars in debt. They don't have donors right now. They don't think they can make the money back.

[B]

The reason I say that is I'm thinking about the way that, like, businesses take loans to make payroll and stuff like that. They know that they're waiting on money coming in or whatever. Look, I don't know. I don't know the inside, inside workings of the dnc. I'm just thinking of what.

[A]

No, I understand that point. And I would say I don't believe for a second that anyone at the DNC thinks they're going to make this money back. You don't know that they were calling

[C]

vendors and asking to delay payment till after the reelection. But I think the irony when you're rallying off the headlines, this is the same party that's also advocating for 30% discounts on groceries. And it's like you can't even manage your own party well.

[A]

But here's the thing. The party's fighting itself. Half the people in the Democrats don't like Mamdani in the dsa. So I think the real issue is they ain't going to pay this money back. Who's going to donate to the Democrats when half the Democrats hate the other half?

[D]

I mean, you don't think that there's going to be donations that come in. Once 2028 comes into clear view, we figure out who's going to be taking on who. Once primaries start going on, then fundraising starts back on.

[A]

Let's, let's just, let's just say yes, but this means right now we are 100 days from the midterms. They're not. They have no money to run campaigns right now. They have, they have negative. So they've got like 12 million cash on hand and then like 16 or 17 million in debt. So they're floating. Right. It's like when it's like, you know, a lot of Americans experiencing this and unfortunately, many of them voting for Democrats, but that's how they live. You got 20 grand in credit card debt or student loans, so you're living paycheck to paycheck, barely paying off your loans after the midterms. How are they going to, to pay back money when they're in debt? They're going to be floating the debt amongst other vendors. They're going to have to liquidate something. Give us.

[C]

But also think right now is when they're most flush. Ramping up to a reelection.

[A]

Oh, I mean, no, no, no. It's a midterm where they're the opposition. They should have a billion dollars.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But here's the crazy thing. Historically, their polling should be double digits. It's 4.4points. They are pulling 4 points in the positive above water. It needs to be around 10 to 15 if they want to take the margins they need to win. So now you got CNN's living meme, Harry Enton. And I always clarify this. It's not an insult. It's because he's so shocked all the time about the polling data of how bad Democrats are that it's just every day as a new video of him going, oh, my God, how are Democrats doing so bad? It's like every day he says, I'm shocked. And somehow, somehow the prediction markets think Democrats are going to take Congress. Well, I mean, it's historic trends.

[B]

I think the, the. Yeah, that's, that's the reason is because of the trend, right? Historically, this is generally what happens. And the Republicans aren't popular. There's as much as there is a war going on in the DNC or in the Democrat Party, there's definitely a lot of people in the Republican Party that are unhappy with Trump, they're unhappy with the war in Iran, they're unhappy SAVE ACT not being able to surpass SAVE act. They're unhappy with the, they don't feel like the, the wages have risen to offset inflation. So look, there's, there's a lot of tumult in both the Republican and Democrat Party. I don't know that that turns into a victory for the Republicans. I mean, I wish because, and I've said it here a boatload of times, like if your option is a Democrat or Republican, the Republican is clearly better. But at the same time it's like, look, man, there's a lot of chaos going on in both the parties because you've got, you know, a lot of different people with different agendas. Whether either one will be able to coalesce around their, you know, respective representatives that are up. Who knows?

[D]

It's an indictment on just how unpopular Democrats are right now because they should be handily winning right now with the amount of discord going on in the Republican Party and the amount of people, you know, whether. What did we talk about last Thursday? We talked about the Maha moms and we talked about the, the libertarian types who have since abandoned it when it felt like everybody was a one issue voter. And when they're one issue didn't get solved or didn't get taken care of, they moved on to other things. So it really isn't like I remember, I don't remember who it is recently, but basically so like literally all the Democrats have to do right now is just not be stupid.

[A]

Well, bro, if the Democrats just came out and said like we, we will no longer support gay communism, their polling would jump 20 points. But the problem is they can't because they love gay comments.

[B]

Especially if you look at the DSA's platform. The DSA, DSA's platform is incredibly radical. And the people that are running as DSA or that are running as Democrats from the dsa, they've been instructed by the DSA to misdirect people as to what they, you know, what they actually I had a guy that, that was on, on X that was hooting and hollering at me because he's like, oh, it's the Nordic model. DSA wants The Nordic model. I'm like, bro, they do not want the Nordic. Actually, I didn't even say they have

[A]

private health and health insurance.

[B]

Yeah. I just told Groff they also have the department.

[C]

They want to defund the Department of War.

[B]

Well, I mean, the dsa, there was prisons.

[A]

They want to get rid of prisons.

[B]

Yeah. There was a woman on, on Fox News recently that was explaining the D or she was, she was going down a list of the DSA policies. They want to expropriate major corporations. Like all major corporations. They want to close.

[A]

They want to abolish the presidency.

[B]

They want to abolish the presidency and you can't abolish the Senate. Okay. Like that is the one. There is, there is a clause in Article 5 that says you cannot get rid of the Senate.

[A]

It's the only thing that an amendment can't do. You can get rid of the Senate.

[B]

Well, you have to get rid of the whole Constitution. Yes. And I mean.

[A]

And that they want to do that as well. Yes, they say that explicitly. So here's my conspiracy theory is like, at this point, these guys got to be like secret Republicans. They can't even get into office. Like this, this, this lady who's on TV on Fox News and she was, it was, I think it was like Martha McCallum was asking her questions about her, like just literally reading the DSA website. She's like, you want to abolish the presidency in the Senate? And she's like, yes, it's a long term plan. It's like, you want to get rid of prisons. Yes. You want to get rid of the, the Department of Defense. Yes, absolutely. Or the Department of what you say the Pentagon. And then it's. I can only assume. I mean, come on. This is, this is a caricature of what the left is. Right. Like if this woman is. It doesn't matter if this woman is actually Republican or is actually serious. It's the same thing. If you go on TV as a representative of Democrats and say something psychotic, the Democrats lose points.

[B]

You can't take an oath to support and defend the Constitution. And after telling everybody that you're going to literally rip up the Constitution, these people cannot be in office.

[A]

So.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

And the Republicans are. What's the right way to describe the Republicans? Flaccid. Because you have this other story we're going to get to with Dr. Fauci's diary where in January of 2020, he says outright, we know it did not come from the wet market. And then for what, two years, they Were like, no, no, the wet market. When they knew that was not true. If you can't put these people in prison, you have no country. And I'm going to tell you this right now, the Republicans are going to go, but, but Biden issued a blanket 11 year pardon. I guess we can't do anything. And I'm like, if you can't do anything about that because the president issued an 11 year pardon, you know, got a country. Sorry. I don't care what you think about the Constitution and plenary pardoning powers. If your country can't stop evil, then you have succumbed to it.

[B]

First of all, yes, that should happen. Like the President should just ignore it. But even if they didn't, the President should be on the phone with Bukele and arrange extradition for Fauci to El Salvador because Covid hit El Salvador. Covid hit every country in the world. So there you go. There's got to be plenty of countries that could do it.

[A]

Yes, they're not going to do it. So when we see the DSA coming out and saying things like we will destroy the Constitution and then they win office and they have to swear an oath to it, the Republicans are like, we're not going to do anything about that. When the Republicans could very simply in Congress be like, if you have ever stated anything against the U.S. constitution, you won't be sworn in. Goodbye. Should be, they won't do it, they won't do it. I'd do it.

[D]

They fundraise off people like that anyway,

[A]

someone you know when the next, on January 3rd, when they're, when they're doing the new Congress, nominate me for speaker of the House and I will just rampage through that place because you don't have to be in Congress to be elected to be Speaker. I will, I will go nuts. I will I will not swear in half of these Democrats. I'll be like, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna have people go through their comb through the social media and if at any point they're like, the Constitution is bad, I'll be like, well, you can't be sworn in, can't swear and know something you think is bad. So goodbye, yeah, tell your district to send somebody else.

[B]

It should be, it should be that simple. Like, look, you can't, you can't swear to support and defend the Constitution. You want to make all these changes to the Constitution that cannot be made to be.

[A]

See, to be fair, if somehow by some insane stretch of the imagination I was nominated speaker of the House and actually Got voted in. I imagine I eat polonium before they actually let me anywhere near that building.

[D]

Well, ask if you could run it from here.

[A]

He had a glass box. My joke was like, if you ever actually got a real politician, someone who was like, I'm going to do some real things and clean this up, you'd have to put them in a, like five foot thick, bulletproof, earthquake proof, suspended with like a totally clear, permanent popemobile, permanent pop mobile. Like you have to live in a. In a biodome, Pauly Shore style, because they will kill you.

[D]

Well, no. What was he in V for Vendetta? He's like. He always gives the speech on the screen, but he's never actually in the room that he was in.

[A]

Right, Exactly. Chancellor, to be fair, I mean, what would really happen is if, like, if any real person got elected, they just accuse him of drugs or rape or something, you know, and then 50 charges

[E]

of some kind of felony. If.

[A]

Yeah, felony. You know, you happen in college just

[D]

like Kavanaugh happened in college. I don't remember when. I don't remember if I was there. Nobody else remembers either, but it happened in college.

[C]

Or even Trump tax stuff. I mean, it's the same tactics Russia does. Yeah, it's crazy.

[A]

I wonder who they learn from.

[D]

I do wonder, though, like you said, like, they're. They're fantastic for Republicans. Are the DSA candidates secret Republicans. You know, maybe that sounds true now, but the newer generations are becoming more and more warm to the idea of Democratic socialism as it's phrased, and they're not thinking of it in the same way. They're going to be okay with these ideas as the. As things get worse for them.

[B]

Part of the reason why they're okay with these aren't getting worse because they do think they. Most people think when they hear socialism, they think of, quote, unquote, the Nordic model. But that's not what DSA wants.

[A]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna blow. Blow some minds right now. We're gonna blow some minds. You guys ready?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Do you know what, we talked about this last week, but I'm gonna say it again. You guys know what the. The average median and mean salaries of an American millionaire is? I think you guys might know, so I'm gonna ask. Well, do you know how much money per year, salary wise, do you think the average American millionaire makes 100,000? It's. That's about right. So 100, 160. So the. So the average is like 184. But of course, that accounts for, for

[C]

people counts their retirement account.

[A]

So like, if someone's making 900. If someone's got like $900 million, yeah. Well, they're gonna, they're gonna skew it. So when you go media and it's about 165k, sure. Go tell some Gen Z Buzzfeed employee who's getting 150k a year that he has the average, he has a salary comparable to the average millionaires. I'm like, what? Like in their minds, they think a millionaire is making a million bucks a year. It's not true. The issue is they're communists who don't know how to save and financially plan, so they blame everybody else. And when these people say tax the rich, but they're making 90 to 100k a year and their salaries are close or comparable to that of millionaires, what they're really saying is, I want to take from the people who are being responsible because I'm stupid.

[D]

Bob Iger's base salary was only $1 million for running.

[A]

Right? Right. But let's not play games.

[D]

Like I'm saying base salary higher.

[A]

Jeff Bezos paid himself a million bucks a year. That's, that's ridiculous. The reality is the average. There's about 23 million millionaires in the United States. The average salary, like the normal median salary, is about 165K. And it's because in their late 20s, they're getting like mid to high. They're getting mid to high five figures and they start saving. Then they're in their mid-30s and they buy their first property. By the time they're in their early 40s, they've got a property, they got some stocks, and they have passive income on the side. So one of the interesting things I read is that actually a large portion of millionaires make about 80 to 90,000 a year. But they've been working for 20 years saving up the disposable income and building assets which have grown in value, giving them a net worth around 1 million to $3 million. Now go tell one of these New Yorker people who's making 120 to 150 a year that with proper financial planning, they too will be a millionaire. And they're not going to believe you and they're going to demand that someone go and steal the money from everybody else.

[C]

I think part of the issue also is we're just seeing the results of what happened at colleges and it's just playing out now where like the skew of the amount of teachers who are liberal versus conservative went from like 2.3 in the 80s to 5 nowadays. And so they're just the Overton window of what they're getting educated about in college has shifted so much.

[A]

I think check it, there must be something in the water. Let's pull up this story. Zoran Mandani has announced they will be opening five city run tax funded grocery stores with 30% below retail. I'm going to tell you why that's a problem. Because the margins for these grocery stores are about 2 to 3% as it is. So you drop prices by 30%, you will put every grocery store around this out of business. Let me play this clip and then talk to you about why I think Zarandani is intentionally trying to burn down New York City. Here's how it will work. Once a month our five city run grocery stores will set prices for this core set of goods at 30% below typical retail price taxes, no exceptions, no gimmicks. The savings will last for the entire month. That means no weekly fluctuations nor sticker shock at the checkout line. This already was tried in numerous countries, namely Venezuela. And we saw exactly what everyone's been warning will happen, happen. And it is because we watched happen over and over and over again, we know it will happen. Local bodegas, small grocery stores, their bodegas and small grocery stores will not be able to compete with core goods that are below their 30% below retail. When given the choice, somebody might say, you know what, I'm gonna go to grocery store and I'm gonna grab some milk, bread and eggs. Hey you know what, I might as well grab a roast beef and cheddar while I'm at, while I'm at the bodega and pick up some candy bars. Excess selling, disposable income. Now they're gonna say, well look, I gotta get milk, bread and eggs, but it's a dollar here, it's 70 cents there, I'm gonna go to the cheapo place. Now they're buying less economic activity, depressed, the bodegas can't compete. And Even if they lose 5% of their business, they go out of business. What's going to happen is in the surrounding areas people are going to choose to go to the government location instead. It's going to cause the bodegas each to lose a small percentage, but enough for them to go under. The government run grocery store will then run out of goods and not be able to restock fast enough. You will then get massive lines out the door with shortages in the only grocery store within five Miles. And it's going to happen in five different areas, creating food deserts, which again, I'm not making up. It's been tracked historically and economists have warned about over and over again. Now Zoran Mandani knows this. There is no reality in the entirety of the multiverse where Zoran Mandani doesn't know this. Because anyone with Google thinking, hey, what would happen if I opened a grocery store and did this enter? It goes warning, warning, warning, warning like crazy. So it has to be on purpose. And you know what? He also published the addresses of wealthy individuals, which we'll get to in a second. He's basically saying all money get out. We're going to flatten the city. And I'm going to tell you what I think Zoram Andani's real plan is. I think he's like the bad guys in Robocop. You're going to destroy the city. Skyscrapers, large buildings all become worthless. You buy them up for pennies on the dollar. Ten years later there's a recovery. Now you're a billionaire. That's what I think he's actually doing. Because when you look at everything he's doing with targeting the wealthy properties, he's destroying luxury properties, destroying impoverished neighborhoods, driving out the wealth and the industry and the business owners. All these big companies announcing they're leaving, all the wealthy individuals fleeing to, to, to Palm beach and what happens? Property values will implode and then the city can come. Because this is what de Blasio said they were going to do during COVID Buy up skyscrapers for pennies on the dollars, convert it into corporate or I'm sorry, into government housing.

[D]

Look, they're making a RoboCop TV series over Amazon so they could get Zorin Mumgani to be the bad guy in that one. That's perfect.

[A]

But the funny thing is, you know what I love? I was watching with it with this Fauci news that has come out. They're replaying all this crazy stuff from the COVID era and the pharmaceutical comes in. It's just funny. I'm watching Donald Trump do this rally in Michigan and he's like, the Democrats are owned by the insurance companies. That's why they do it. They won't let you buy your products. And it's really funny cuz it's true.

[C]

Good impression that.

[A]

I mean it's a jokey impression but like Democrats are basically like, I don't want to be able to price my own healthcare and negotiate with my doctor on pricing. I want insurance companies to do it. And you're like, but I thought you didn't like the pharmaceuticals and the insurance companies. Now the Democrats keep voting in favor of this. It's the weirdest thing that Democrats vote in favor of insurance company pricing, but also while complaining that insurance companies are ruining health care.

[D]

Wait, what? Like, is that different than their proposed single payer model? Like, what are you talking about? Like, I don't remember this discussion at all.

[A]

When the Republicans come, come out on the stage and say health care should be private, meaning you should be able to negotiate with your doctor pricing, you should be able to list prices. Out they go. Oh, you're, you're far right. You're far. This is insane. This is far right. No, no, no. We've got to make it so the government controls and regulates and then you end up with this insurance companies giggling and laughing because they lobby the Democrats and keep this system in place. Now don't get me wrong, sure Democrats complain about it and they're like the government should just control all of it. That's not much different. They're arguing for a command economy and they're getting it while complaining about it.

[C]

And they're destroying the American dream. I mean, first they attack the business owners who are actively trying to build it for themselves and then they go after the folks who have achieved it and have these homes.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, look to, to people that are on the far left. People like Zoran Mamdani. The American dream is either a lie or it's aligned with white supremacy. Aligned with oppressor versus oppressed narrative. They don't believe that you can be successful without hurting someone else. So it's just, it's literally the most caustic and, and motivated by, by envy ideology that you can come up with. Literally. That's why you see all these attempts to try to take from people done things. I mean, the guy's putting people's actual home addresses on online like, like he doesn't know what's going to happen. You know, it's, it's just straight up, you know, envy and, and hatred for people.

[A]

I, I, I think maybe at the lower levels. But Mom, Donnie is not a stupid guy. It's, it's, it's, it's coordinated, it's calculated. He's playing chess.

[B]

I, I think that mom, Donnie, Mom, Donnie's might be one of the people that believes that every, every narrative that's positive about the US and things like that believes it's all a CIA.

[A]

I, maybe, but what I'm saying is there's no way he's going, wow, a government run grocery store will help people. No, he's sitting there back with his advisors being like, okay, so what kind of depression are we looking at? And they're like, oh, I mean, we might, we might see like 20% of the city flee. This is going to result in property value collapse. And then he's going, okay, and then do we have the backers, the underwriters, so that we can buy up these properties? And they're like, we're lining them now as you speak. He knows exactly what he's doing. It is really, really. Let me tell you guys something really funny. You guys ever, you go on Instagram, you ever, you ever just scroll mindlessly on Instagram? Sometimes. Have you seen these videos where people are like, you could only choose two, and then it's like it's them standing that, their arms crossed, or they're pointing up and it's a list of things and It'll be like $10 million right now. Number two, you never have to sleep again. Have you ever, have you guys ever seen these things? Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them where it's like, you can have $10 million right now, you can have a thousand dollars an hour for the rest of your life. You never have to go to work again. Which is like, what does that even mean? And then I saw one where it's like 100 rental properties right now. And I busted out laughing when I saw that. I saw like four or five times from like these Gen Z influencer accounts being like, you could only choose three, as if they're all good. And it's like, if I could have $1,000 per $24,000 per day, I'll take that one. If you woke up and you had responsibility on 100 rental properties, you would lose your mind. You would panic. This 100 rental properties means you're going to have, I'd estimate 75 employees around there. You're going to be dealing with law. And listen, as the owner, the government's going to come after you on every violation. Like owning a corporation that manages 100 rental properties is no small feat. You can just wake up and have. But these socialist types, these, these people, they don't understand that. Well. Like it's, it's like when you saw that, that clip the other day from Bobby Lee. I, I did a segment about it on Friday where he's like, what do you need a trillion dollars for? If I had a trillion dollars, I'd burn all like I'd do something really good and then get rid of it and keep a billion. And the other guy was like, I'd build a bunch of desalinization plants. It's desalination. I know, but he calls it desalination. And then I'm like, desalination plants destroy the ocean life on the. On the bottom floor, causing this effect, this. This domino effect that kills off. It creates dead zones. That's one of the reasons we don't build them. And Elon Musk literally doesn't have a trillion dollars, but these people are all as dumb as a box of rocks. They don't get this. My point. Mamdani is not at that level. Mamdani knows full well. He's dealt with a large campaign to run for mayor. He's dealt with these finances, these numbers. He knows exactly what's going on. When you say, hey, if we put a 30% reduced grocery store in this area, what's gonna happen?

[D]

If you.

[A]

It's a black hole. He knows this.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I'm not.

[D]

I don't know.

[B]

There's part of me that thinks he's a true believer in the power of socialism.

[A]

How is it possible that he was able to rally campaign financing, deal with banking and tax law, and he was

[B]

a failed rapper before.

[A]

How is it possible that he's able to deal with FEC law legal divisions and then not know these things? That's not possible. I'm sorry. It's just not possible.

[D]

At the very least, he has advisers who have told him the fallout of what would happen, even if he doesn't necessarily.

[A]

The only argument would be communist. He literally doesn't do anything at all and just sits there. And Soros is behind him running all the paperwork.

[B]

But.

[A]

But again, when the reason I bring up the rental properties thing is because the moment you actually try dealing with the banks and lenders to set up a rental property and then you sign up for Airbnb and do all this, you go, how the. What? I do 100 of these. That's not possible. Cleaning turnover, bro. You verse. Oh, man. And then you have people shop and trash the place. Now multiply that by 100, and you're like, I'm going to need a corporation for this before. I can't be the only person running this company. You are not going to have a single member entity at that level. Mom, Donnie could not get to this level without understanding these mechanisms.

[D]

Before I worked here, I worked for an apartment, like a company that worked for apartment. You know, we ran an apartment. Like four apartments in one area. Right. And I did the general maintenance there. And the. And this was during COVID so people weren't paying their rent. Stuff was getting absolutely trash in businesses. And the company was losing hundreds of thousands of dollars on turnovers that were even worse than normal because people were in their apartments more than normal, and they were spending all their money on TVs and not actually paying their rent. It was awful.

[A]

I had a rental property once. I. I have a rental management company handling it. My phone rings, and I answer it. It's a tenant calling me directly. They found my phone number. Fridge is broken. And I said, you gotta talk to the rental management company. Because, I mean, I'm just like, I own the. And they were like, okay, well, we're withholding rent until the fridge is fixed. Okay, Okay. I guess. I mean, like, I don't want to leave you hanging. Rental management company says they broke the fridge. And I said, well, how does this work? Like, you gotta pay it. And then I said, okay, so pay it. And they're like, okay, so your remittance for this month will be negative, you know, $300. And then, like, don't worry. What'll happen is once the. The rent comes, you know, upwards, like, we'll. We'll apply future rent towards the negative balance. We were. Negative balance, like, three, four months. Like, stove broke. It's like, what's happening? They're like, oh, the tenants broke the stove. Okay. What does that mean? Means you got to fix it. And I'm like, but they broke. It's like, doesn't matter. That's not the way rental works. AC broke. And I'm like, what happened? They broke the ac.

[D]

Also something.

[A]

They broke the. The face. And now it's got to get replaced. And they can't turn the AC on. You got to fix it.

[D]

Also something that they never take into account when they talk about how they're never going to own a home and never realize that all the things they benefit from by renting rather than owning, because they wouldn't actually want to, you know, to fix the stove, actually want to fix the water heater. They don't actually want to fix the ac. They want somebody else to do it while complaining about the cost of the rent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now you have these videos. You see this video where these. It's like, young. Young black. It's like young black men, they're probably like, 18, 19. They Airbnb a house, destroy it, and then when the Asian man shows up, because the people were like neighbors were complaining. They punch him in the face.

[B]

Awesome.

[A]

So again, let's. Let's jump to the story and talk about what Mamdani does and does not know. From the New York Post. Mamdani publishes names and addresses of all NYC property owners who could be hit with a new Peter. Peter Terre tax. He doxed everybody who owns valuable property. This is not who could be hit with attacks. He just published a list, two lists actually, of all of the properties that are at a certain value. So we've got this. I think this might be the tweet here. Hayden Adams tweeted this. He's invented the Uniswap protocol. Wow, that's. That's actually pretty crazy. This is the worst mass doxing I've ever seen. Just personally searched several high end apartment buildings that are. That include people I personally knows, primary residents, not a PITA terror. Not only were their units listed, but nearly every unit in the entire building was listed. They clearly took an incredibly expansive view of. Could be. Could be. Excuse me. And just doxed a huge percentage of all expensive apartments in New York City. F absolutely everyone involved in this. This is incredibly dangerous. The original post was the city published a list of all properties and the names of the owners that could be subject to a new Peter Terre tax in a very easy to search Excel sheet. Indeed they did.

[D]

What is this? What is the, like the Steel man argument for publishing this?

[A]

There isn't one.

[C]

There isn't one.

[D]

There like, there isn't one that they can give an explanation to. To a Democrat, like, to a Blue Dog Democrat who just wants to know why you publish this list and doesn't want communism or the destruction.

[A]

There's no argument for doing so. If, if you're going to tax these

[C]

people, you have their contact information and they're already sending them mailers letting them know.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

So there's no reason to do this.

[A]

There's. There's one reason to get them killed to get the properties targeted. It's. You ever hear that joke where it's like. It's. It's actually in a bunch of movies too. A guy rents. Like, our woman will rent an apartment and then she has a gunshot and she freaks out. And then, you know, she like looks at the windows and she's like an old black guy in the backyard pointing a gun at the ground and she. She like freaks out and she looks, she's like, what's going on? And he's like, oh, no, don't be worried, man. I just once a week, fire it into the ground to keep the property values down, the property taxes down. This is basically what they're doing, I guess. So I guess the idea is destroy the value of the property. That's why I said, he's like RoboCop villain. Doing this will. Will create. Will do one thing. Wealthy people are going to be like, okay, he's just published a list of my home address accusing me of stealing from the people. Got to get out while you still can. And then the property values collapse, and then I guarantee you, his buddies are going to buy him up.

[D]

I like the one that shows, like, groups of white people jogging and says when you know your property value is about to skyrocket or like a church's

[A]

chicken is getting built, and you're like, well, there goes the neighborhood.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, look, just like you guys are saying that there's no legitimate reason to post people's, you know, the home addresses. This is, I think, the second time he's done this, too. There was another. Another issue where he posted someone's address that he considered too wealthy or what have you. But look, this is going to have. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Stood in front of his house.

[B]

Yeah, that's. This is going to have the effect of. Of actually making people say, I can't live here anymore.

[E]

Yes. Intimidation.

[A]

Can we just go back in time to when Donald Trump helped revitalize New York? And the way he did it was he built luxury properties and convinced wealthy people that it was worth coming back. Then they came back and simultaneously Giuliani was implementing broken windows policing. So then you start going heavy after criminals. Trump then comes in and builds luxury properties and tells people, this is upper class, this is high society. Wealthy people start moving in, paying big taxes. The city uses big taxes for new programs, puts a stop on the crime, crushes it. New York is back, baby. Mamdani is doing the inverse. They want to abolish police in prisons. They want to end stop and frisky. They're letting criminals go. He wants to close down Rikers, and they've been working on releasing criminals from there. And they're trying to destroy the wealthy properties. They are literally trying to burn the city to the ground. And I'll tell you why. Not just the one theory, the RoboCop villains, because they want to destroy the United States. And New York City is the financial center. So what they end up doing is crushing the financial center of the West. I think it's all intentional. They know it's not going to help anybody. It's going to hurt everybody.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, like I said, there's. There's no legitimate reason. It's. It's all about intimidation. They have absolutely no, like, desire to support the Constitution. They don't believe in property rights. They think that everybody. That. That has any sort of asset or whatever, they gain that by taking advantage.

[A]

If Trump had balls, he'd have done something. If the Republicans had balls, they do something. But it feels like we're watching the bus driving full speed towards the cliff, and everybody's like, well, I don't. Look at me. I'm not a bus driver. Trump sitting there being like, look, my hands are tied. I can't take control of the bus. It's. I'm forbidden from doing it. You're like, okay, look, I get it. I'm not trying to rag on the president. I'm just saying, at a certain point, like this Foushee story, we can't put Fauci in jail despite knowing that he committed atrocities. I mean, these are atrocities. What he did, the amount of people who died because of Fauci, it's now basically confirmed he was lying endlessly about all this, gloating in this diary that he was writing, bragging about what he was doing, and they can't do anything about it. Okay. I mean, if you live in that world where an evil guy literally can do evil and say, but I've used your laws to make sure you can't stop me, and you're like, oh, Drett, he won. It's like, okay, all right. I guess.

[D]

I mean, a guy keeping a diary in general is already pretty sus.

[E]

At least call it a journal.

[D]

Yeah, it's different.

[A]

Calls it a diary.

[B]

And everything from here on out is probably.

[A]

Can we just remember that time Cuomo pretended he was in quarantine when he wasn't?

[D]

And these people, they caught him, like, outside jogging or something.

[E]

He was writing him.

[A]

No, he was. He was not. He was at a new construct, a property that he owned in. I think it was in Long Island. And a guy who was riding a Fat tire bike rode by and saw him and said, weren't you supposed to be in quarantine? And then Cuomo started yelling at him, like, who the f are you? What are you doing? Then Cuomo went on his radio show and complained about it. And then everyone was like, how were you outside? And then he was like, oops. And then he still went on CNN and said, look at me coming out of quarantine. And there are people who live in that reality. Yeah. And they vote.

[D]

Well, it doesn't matter that none of it makes any sense. It doesn't matter that he's lying because he's not trying to convince the people that already know he lied. He's trying to convince the people that don't know that he got caught at another building.

[A]

And you know what it is? He came out and did his apology tour, and the right forgave him. I'm not suggesting they all love him. I'm saying he's. It's just people forgot. I just want to stress when we played that video on Friday with Jason Ellis showing the forklift lifting up the razor wire so that Biden could commit a seditious conspiracy against this country and allow people to break our laws, I just want to stress this. We. I hear this quite a bit where people are like, you really think a civil war was possible? And I just want to stress, in 2021, Joe Biden, his administration used a forklift to break the barriers of the United States so that people could commit crimes in the United States. This is. This is definitive. It's a fact. Okay? Entering the country is a crime. And Biden aided and abetted millions of. It's on video. He even challenged the Supreme Court. Texas sent out their armed State guard to defy the federal government. And there were standoffs between the federal government, law enforcement, and Texas State Guard. Ultimately, Texas State Guard backed down. And even CBP agents facilitated this crime against the United States. And nothing was done about it. And people, you know, I saw Sean, I think it was Sean Strickland said, voting for Trump is one of the biggest regrets of my life. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Because when Joe Biden broke the barrier, Arizona put up double double layered shipping containers to block the barrier because of the influx of illegal immigration. And the Biden admin had it removed. They were. They were betraying the American people. They were breaking the law, engaging in conspiracies to do so, and everyone forgot. And now, because Trump has some bad things. Don't get me wrong, they're like, I can't believe I voted for Trump. Are you kidding me? You're gonna vote for Kamala so that she could literally commit crimes and atrocities against the American people? Like Fauci's admitting in these documents that he knew the whole time this was not from the wet market. And people are like, it's a. I regret voting for Trump. No, you don't.

[B]

No, the whole I regret voting for Trump is. They're just mad that they're not getting whatever their pet project was it's.

[D]

Yeah, it's recent. It's a combination of recency bias in that like when we were talking about on Thursday, I was like, I thought maybe we'd get some tax cuts and maybe we'd get some border security. And that's about as much as I expect any politician don't understand.

[A]

The border security is like with Biden it could not have been worse. With Trump it could not be better.

[B]

Yeah, I mean it's a, it's existential. Right. Like if you continue to allow unlimited people for, to come into the country and then off, you know, whether it be for the census or whether they'd be getting onto some kind of social program or all of that stuff will destroy the United States. And granted, like I'm one of the people that thinks that there haven't been enough deportations. Although I do think that the administration's numbers are probably right around, around the truth. When you figure in actual self deportations and stuff. I probably think it's probably around 3 million or so. There's 330 Haitians that just today are now ineligible for the TP Temporary Protected Status or whatever. So hopefully they'll be going back to Haiti and stuff. But it just doesn't like, you can't have the policies that the Biden administration had and remain a country. The con, a nation is its people.

[A]

Let's just show, show people every single day this video, it's a video of a forklift raising up concertina wire to allow people to illegally enter the country.

[B]

America is not made of magic dirt. It doesn't change the people that are coming here. And if you bring enough people from a society that is dysfunctional into your society, your society becomes dysfunctional. And it doesn't take a majority. Like if you bring in 20, like so say that the just, you know, the US is 330 million or so. If you bring in 70, 60 million people from a society that is incompatible with our society society, that's enough to totally ruin your society. Because people talk about, people talk about high trust societies, but a high trust society is a high trust society because you can trust most people. If you get to the point where everybody gets screwed somehow by, by someone that's come from a different society that doesn't look at, at, at, you know, doesn't look at society the same way, then you're going to have everybody stop trusting.

[C]

I really liked Rubio. He gave a talk where, where he's like, I'm not anti rain, I'm anti flood. Where like you can have a healthy amount of immigration, but there's a rapid flash increase. Yeah, the country just can't handle.

[B]

That's, that's exactly why I think we should end all immigration for like all but like, oh one visas or whatever. Like for like a decade.

[A]

Let's jump to this next story, guys. On the post, Millennial Foushee claimed he had nothing to do with school closures. Diary shows he was proud to get California and New York to send kids home. Trump wants to open schools at all costs, clearly does not care about the safety of children. But I actually think it's much, much worse than just this story. Senator Rand Paul Posted this January 26, 2020 Fauci writes in his diary, now we know the market was not the source. It was the amplifier. That is January of 2020. The wet market was already off the table. In his own private notes. And that's in January of 2020. In January of 2020, I made the first video for my channel on Covid talking about this mysterious illness in China and people were collapsing in the street. YouTube demonetized the video and emailed me explicitly saying, you may not make videos about this. If you do, we will turn off your monetization.

[B]

Like that's in.

[A]

That was in January. This was before the lockdowns, which were in March, before the general public knew anything about COVID Foushee already knew the wet market was not the source and he lied about all of it. Why? Likely because Covid was the product of Fauci's work, because he had been providing funding for gain of function research that ultimately ended up at the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they created Covid and it massacred people. And Fauci knows this Joe Biden, the reason. What, what if, what was it? His 11 year pardon? I think it was like 11 years Fauci's pardons.

[B]

I thought that it was indefinite, but

[A]

anyways, it was going back like 11 years. I think something like that. Anything he may have done, he cannot be charged for. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and just say if the Trump administration does not even try, then you have no country. I think you should challenge the idea that you can pre pardon someone for a decade of crimes.

[D]

Then the public needs to be more on board with this because like we were talking about the other week, it's like there is a recency bias and it feels like a, a lot of people have forgot or just decided that they wanted to move on with their lives. So when we were talking about this on Thursday of last week, we were talking about Rand Paul still being all up in this business, and it just feels like for the general public, there isn't a lot of interest in going back to this right now, even though what did I see just the other day from. From what Destiny said this was? This is the wet market that caused this. Well, there you have it. But the point is, is, like, there's no pressure point here because the general public doesn't seem to care.

[B]

Well, not only that. Like, the general public is still so. So sequestered into their. Their, you know, their team idea. Right. Like, there are people on the left that will never accept.

[A]

What did Jason Ellis say when we showed him the video of the Concertina Wire?

[B]

He couldn't believe it.

[A]

I don't believe you.

[B]

Yeah, I don't.

[A]

I showed the video, and he was like, f. Off.

[B]

There was. There were.

[A]

I was like, yes. And he's like, you're saying the President had that forklift. I don't believe it. So we had to pull up the articles proving it, and he could not believe it. Now, I'm not saying this being disrespectful. Jason Ellis is a regular dude. He skateboards, he does comedy. He doesn't live in the political world. I had a conversation with a buddy of mine in New York back in, like, 2019, where he was like, he was a liberal comedian guy with millions of followers, and he was like, so you're like, pro life or something? And I was like, no, no, I'm pro choice. And he was like, but people are saying, like, you're pro life because, like, the Democrats are trying to. Trying to pass abortion protection. And I said, no, the Democrats are trying to pass a bill that would allow abortion to the point of birth, citing mental health issues. And he goes, that's not true. And I said, okay. And I pulled up the actual bill, and I said, read passage 13. And he reads. And he goes, what? This is fake. And I was like, look at the URL. It's house.gov. it's send it.gov bro. And he goes, I can't believe this. I don't believe it. And I'm like, dude, why do you think I'm making this up? But they live in Wally world. They live in CNN land. Everything is fake. And they. They. They're just never going to get out of it.

[B]

And it's also that they're so entrenched. Like, I made a remark about, you know, about Fauci. I mean, on X. I made a remark about Fauci. Should be tried. Trump should ignore the pardon and, you know, snatch him up. And some guy goes, well, yeah, and Trump too, like, immediately. Right to Trump too, as if the crimes that Fauci has been accused of, that seem to be, you know, very, very. Like, there seems to be a lot of evidence. The, the millions of people that died because of COVID like, the, that died because of COVID And then the, the other stuff surrounding Covid, like, that's equal to like, Donald Trump. Like, like, like, like. So even if you look at the most terrible way to cast Donald Trump, save for, like, the, the crazy people that are like, oh, you know, he was, he was doing stuff with Epstein, blah, blah, blah, like all the corruption stuff, the money that he's made, the meme coin schemes that, those kind of things that are, that are, you know, generally universally, you know, look down on. Even if you look at all that stuff, the Jeannie Carroll stuff, all of it doesn't even come close to the kind of, of global effect that Foushee had. And some guy's just like, oh, but what about Trump? Like, are you serious?

[A]

That's like, you know, was that guy Brian Shapiro?

[B]

No, I actually, actually I blocked Brian Shapiro because he called me. So we're back to not being friends.

[A]

No, but we're back to not being.

[B]

That's like, that's like, that's like being like, oh, that guy, you know, that guy robbed a bank or that, you know, we have a problem with Hitler. And it's like, well, what about the guy that robbed a bank? Like, are you serious?

[A]

This is, this is, it's.

[B]

It, it doesn't, it doesn't even come close to the same kind of magnitude. But you got to talk about the other team because people are so entrenched.

[E]

So it was 11 years. I looked it up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, 11 year pardons. And Hunter, too, right?

[E]

I don't know about his, but let me look.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure.

[B]

What do you even, you know, it's, it's just, it's frustrating because not only are we kind of in agreement around here that Trump's not going to do anything about vouching, no matter what comes out, he's probably not going to serve a day in jail. And, and even though they can't do, and they can't do anything about that, people, people would still say that Trump was, was the worst president ever if he did say, you know what? We can't let this stand. This guy had such a massive effect on the whole planet. The Whole. Every person on earth was touched by that pandemic.

[D]

You know, I don't know, it's. I, I'm very, very tired of the left right paradigm for everything, and maybe part of that's just because of where we work and stuff like that. But I'm sick of the world being filtered through the lens of left wing versus right wing policy.

[A]

Left wing and right wing doesn't mean anything.

[D]

I'm using the generic idea you're saying

[A]

like we're complaining about people who don't pay attention to the news.

[D]

What do you mean?

[A]

The left just means you live in fantasy land and the right just means you don't depend.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, but, but in general

[A]

is called right wing, even though he's a socialist. Why? Because, well, he believes a lot of. He's, he's dancing in the conspiracy slop right now, but he's outside the mainstream narrative. So if you are in CNN land, you're left wing. Even if, even if you're a conservative, if you're Lincoln Project, you're not conservative anymore. So again, when we're talking about left right paradigm these days, we're basically just saying, are you in the cult or are you not in the cult?

[B]

Yeah, it's, it's incredibly frustrating too, because again, it does seem like nothing is actually going to be done about this. And you've got just a, you know, a cornucopia of evidence that this is something that Fauci knew about, something that Fauci had a hand in. And the Biden administration, you know, we were talking about Joe Biden. Literally can't remember anything. Right. Like the first story about how he, he was talking to his biographer and was basically incriminating himself and all sorts of things because the Biden administration gave him a pardon for 11 years back because they're just as culpable. They knew too.

[A]

At this point, I just believe all conspiracies. Every single one. Every single one. You know, the earth is flat and it's hollow. It's a donut. It's kind of where I'm at. And it's Israel who's keeping that knowledge away from us. Because, you know. And birds aren't real. Oh, no, no, of course not. There's no such thing as a bird. Yeah. Never existed. Neither.

[D]

Government drone, you mean?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Nope.

[D]

When I say left right paradigm, I guess coming from my side of what we talk about over on pcc, it's just a little bit different. Like, there were people who were telling me for weeks that that The Odyssey was going to bomb. And I'm in. This is filtered through the left right paradigm because it was conservatives versus liberals versus Normies talking about it. I said, it's Christopher Nolan movie. It's not going to bomb. I don't know if it's going to make $1 billion now. I know that it's going to make well over that. But in general, I'm like, I can look at the objective facts of this, but it was being filtered through the lens of this movie is going to be a degradation of western society and it's destroying our stories and it's going to create a race war and all of this stuff. Now this isn't being filtered through the commentators or anything like that, but people on X like that is the paradigm that everybody looks at it there. It's not looking at through a news paradigm. It's looking through an ideological paradigm where their view of the world is very, very different from the person who's on the other side of the aisle, who's somebody who's just either. If they're not left wing, they're just like a regular person. And that's the people who went and saw the movie. I said, it's not an indie. It's not an indictment of. Of the left's ability to make movies. It's the indictment on Nolan's ability to get normies to come out to the. And those are the people that I miss interacting with, the people that are thinking about the parody.

[A]

I think the Odyssey does attack the story, but it's a Christopher Nolan normie film. It's gonna attract regular normie people. I think the problem the right had is my reaction to the weird race and gender swap stuff or Sinon as a character being added despite not being in the Odyssey. I'm just like, I. I just that, you know, I'm glad you made your movie. Have fun. Go see it. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go see it. I don't care. I'm not gonna complain about it. It's just not a movie for me.

[D]

That was. I mean, mine was the opposite, but I am gonna go see it because it's part of my job.

[A]

I'm gonna go see Spider Man.

[D]

I'm gonna go see Spider man as well. I'm very excited to go see Spiderman.

[A]

Did you see that Ryan Reynolds was wearing gray jeans?

[D]

I saw he was wearing a gray Deadpool outfit.

[A]

It was. It was made of denim.

[D]

Oh, was it?

[B]

So they're calling him Canadian tuxedo now.

[D]

They're all mad it now. They're all pretending like, nobody likes Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool anymore. Is like, somebody who said that is, like, pretending like, well, okay, so. So the weird thing is, is everybody's mad that Sean Levy is going to be just. Is going to be directing the Ghost Rider movie with. With Ryan Gosling. Yeah, I was like, we have to pretend like, like, do we need some art house dork to direct this movie? No, you want the guy who made Deadpool and Wolverine, and he did Free Guy. We liked Free Guy when we went and saw it back in the day. He also did the masterpiece Big Fat Liar with Frankie Muniz and Amanda Bynes back in the day. Like, those, like, it's like, do you. Who do you need? You don't need some dorky a 24 director to make a Ghost Rider movie. You want the big budget guy to make the ghost.

[A]

The problem with Ghost Rider is that, like, the original story is he makes a deal with the devil, but then the Marvel Universe is like, but how do you have a devil? So, like, it's actually Mephisto. And then he becomes like, what is it? Cosmic Ghost Rider.

[D]

I'm surprised they didn't do the Robbie Reyes version that they did in agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. i thought they were going to do. But I guess Ryan. I guess Ryan Gosling came to them and said, I want to make this movie. Finally wants to. You know, he's going to make a ton of money.

[A]

Yeah. The problem with Ghost Riders, the pen stage, it doesn't work on anybody anymore.

[E]

The what?

[A]

The penance. There. Like, Ghost Rider's power is to, like, look in your eyes, and then because of the sins you've committed, your soul burns from the inside out. But now they're just like.

[B]

They're, they're.

[A]

They're doing the war. You know what the warf effect is?

[C]

No.

[A]

So in Start to the Next Generation, to prove that a bad guy was powerful, they would always have wharf, who's this big, tall Klingon walk up and then get tossed aside like a rag dollar. So the warf effect is a reference to movies being like, we need to establish the villain's powerful, so have the strong guy instantly lose. So like, when Thor's in the trailer for Doomsday, swings the Stormbreaker at Doom and he blocks with two fingers. That's the Worf effect.

[D]

So it's the opposite of what they did in the Infinity War trailer, where Thanos tries to hit Steve Rogers with the gauntlet and Steve Rogers has to use literally all his power to keep the Gauntlet from basically going through his face. By the way, not a Star Trek fan, as everybody knows, but I did start Andromeda, which is basically an unofficial Star Trek show. And I'm happy to say that maybe it's because of the lack of baggage that comes from watching something that just isn't Star Trek. I actually found the first couple of episodes quite enjoyable.

[A]

You're saying you haven't watched the Next Generation because people peer pressure you?

[D]

I'm. I won't watch it because people peer pressure me. Ah, that's just like the second you tell me I have to watch. No, I'm just gonna not watch it even harder.

[A]

You didn't realize you're so weak willed, you know, Decide for yourself.

[D]

I am strong willed in my, in my pushback of everybody telling me I have to watch something.

[A]

You know what's interesting too is it's really. Star Trek is a really good example because when we're talking about, like the left, the left does like to use Star Trek to, to recruit people. Not a joke. During Occupy Wall street, they would be like, you ever see Star Trek the Next Generation? And people would be like, oh, yeah, of course. That's what we're trying to build. That's communism. And then anyone who's an actual fan goes, no, it isn't. They owned private property. Picard owned a vineyard, you liar. But now with these, these grocery stores, you've also got Elon Musk saying, By 2036, money will be irrelevant because AI and machine and automation will be producing so much you won't actually need any money. But that's not true, because private property will still exist. Someone will still want to live in a skyscraper on the river or on the shore. And there needs to be a way to exchange value. Unless, of course, what Elon is saying is there will be the haves and the have nots, and the haves will want for nothing, and the have nots will get free food, but nothing else.

[C]

I mean, the scary thing is, like with ubi, who decides how much you get?

[D]

Government.

[C]

Yeah. Based on what?

[A]

You know, I think is going to happen, it's. We're going to go through, like, I should say this. One of the possible outcomes is there's going to be an extinction event, but it's not going to be caused by a meteor strike or warfare or disease. It's going to be caused by abundance. If we get to the point where Optimus bots can build more of themselves.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then mass produce food and when they break down, fix themselves, and they just build everything, they handle all the mining, all the manufacturing. Humans don't. There's going to be disciplined humans who stay fit and work out. And then there's going to be humans who gorge themselves and do nothing and then just die. And there will be an extinction level event where tens of millions of humans die off over a couple generations, don't have kids, and then just have heart attacks.

[D]

There are already people doing that for TikTok clout.

[A]

Well, I mean, this is my point. What I'm describing actually is already happening. So I'm saying jump us ahead 10 years and you've got food being almost entirely free, which, I gotta be honest, it's very close to being free as it is. You want free food? Go live in Seattle. They got a food bank every day and there are food banks that just have big shelves of free food. Yeah, you don't got to spend a dime.

[C]

They just came out with a zempic, though.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So maybe that's.

[B]

Yeah. So people will gorge themselves.

[A]

Yeah, they're still gonna die. I mean, let's just be honest, you know, you've seen those mesothelioma commercials. We're gonna have those for Ozempic. I. I imagine maybe not Ozempic specifically, it's a brand, but GLP1, it's gonna be like, dude, were you prescribed GLP1 between the years of 2025 and 2028? If so, you may be eligible for a large compensation.

[D]

I mean, we're still going to find out one day that these things are

[A]

actually nuking our brain, you know? You know what I'm hoping happens? I'm hoping that what really happens is that all the people who got GLP1, because a bunch of different brands, mind you, eventually just have parasitic worms burst from their bodies and like on live tv. Have you guys seen that was like a black mirror or something?

[B]

No.

[A]

There's a worm you can get that like bites, latches onto you and sucks out your fat and you instantly lose all your weight. So it's like a fat guy. I think it was a black mirror. There's like a fat something. The chat can tell me what it is. A fat guy's like, no, I don't want to get it. I don't want to get it. Then finally they convince him to get it and they're gonna do it on tv. But then right at this moment, there's like an eclipse, which causes all of the eggs that were laid in people's bodies, they didn't know about to hatch. And then like everyone just starts like the worms are bursting from their bodies.

[B]

Gross. Yeah, I, I mean what show is that? Come on, chat. I really hope that's not true. And I'm not so. Black show creep show Tales from the dark side.

[A]

I'll just look it up.

[B]

People are just guessing. I'm not so black pilled that that I expect that to happen. I do think that there's a lot of really, really cool things that are going to happen in the next 10 years or so when it comes to medical creep shows crawlers.

[D]

So do you believe that what Elon Musk says when he says that you're not going to need money by 2036. Do you think that's a very, very opt.

[A]

So what he's, what he's saying is money is going to be irrelevant. People will have money but the lower class people are going to live in pods. They're going to walk to the grocery store and there's going to be a base level of food that's just free. And there's going to be, you're going to walk up, there's going to be an optimist bot and you're going to be like give me a cheeseburger. And it's going to go and it's going to make it hand it to you because it's going to cost pennies.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, need. I think I'll still exist in some form but it'll be more of like discretionary.

[B]

Yeah. I think that, that there will still be people that want to do things and want to excel. But I think that the, the basic needs will be probably met. I mean right now we make plenty of food to feed honestly to feed the world. It's really a matter of, of distribution than it is actually not being able to, you know, produce enough food. Something like 30 of the food that the United States produces goes to waste anyways.

[D]

You know that's got to do with legalities. Right. Like you like they can't give away expired food even if it would technically transportation calls else.

[B]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's really about, about being able to get the food where it's produced to where the people that need the food are.

[A]

But there is one, one thing that I do want to say to Elon. Let me pull up this video real quick. Let me scroll down and find this here video. Then we can talk about what it means to get free food in the world that y' all are going to live in. Here we go. I'm gonna play this video for y'.

[D]

Alls.

[A]

You can watch it and tell me if you want to live in the world with the free food.

[D]

Very yummy meal.

[A]

For those that are just listening. It's a bunch of school lunches. The carrot is magnetic.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I just want to show you what's

[D]

being served at school today.

[A]

This person flips over their meal tray. The food is just stuck.

[B]

What is that, dude?

[A]

Oh, man's fat pizza. Undercover cooked pizza. I gotta be honest though. Like, I'm gonna pause real quick. Actually, the undercooked pizza, it's bad. That's undercooked, but that's not bad. Yeah, if they're actually got real dough and cheese and stuff. I mean, I'm just undercooked.

[D]

I'm not a crinkle cut fry fan specifically, but the cheese fries, I'd be okay with.

[A]

Check this out.

[E]

What?

[A]

Mac and cheese until they fix this. Look at this. Nachos and cheese. And there's a. Oh, man. There's a film on the cheese and he's pushing into it and then he picks his finger up and there's nothing on his finger.

[D]

I was reliably told the cello bomber is gonna fix this.

[C]

This is crazy.

[A]

Look at the syrup. There's like snot.

[B]

What?

[A]

Who's. You don't eat that raw chicken.

[B]

I mean, look, you should.

[D]

Then I realized the food coming from like just giving like their lower tier are nasty.

[B]

What the.

[A]

Dude, it's not. It's malt. Dude, what is that? And kids are drinking that.

[C]

It's not.

[A]

Dude, this is. This is weird stuff, man.

[B]

Homeschool your kids.

[A]

The icing peels off like dough. Look at that. Oh, dude, this is wild. They're telling this is not milk.

[B]

A lot of the milk that they're showing, it's for just frozen.

[A]

But yeah, I understand the frozen stuff.

[D]

Stuff.

[A]

But yo, like, hold on. Where's that one? This right here?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What is that? That's not milk. What is it?

[B]

It's strawberry milk.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

It's.

[A]

No, it's not milk. It's clearly not milk. I understand it's spoiled, but milk doesn't spoil that way. And then there's this one right here. Look at this. Yeah, it says true moo. But that's not. There's no way that's milk. It says. It says fat free milk. That is not milk. Milk doesn't spoil like that.

[B]

Look at that stuff. Dude.

[E]

It wasn't an unfrozen.

[A]

And frozen and unfrozen yeah, but it's snotty.

[E]

Yeah. I don't.

[A]

It was like mucus.

[D]

It's not edible.

[A]

I mean, I wonder how much of this is fake too. Like someone mixes gelatin into a milk to make it snotty or something. But even then it looks somewhat translucent, like it was not cream.

[C]

I think getting back to the AI thing and money, I think one of the issues is, like, the crisis of meaning, though. Like, if folks don't have to work at all.

[A]

Well, the point is, if you don't work, this is the food you get. That's the point when the robots are doing everything. Like, oh, yeah, you can have your weird spoiled schlop. It's free. That's what you get when you want free food. You want government living, man, live under Mamdani. This is the kind of food they're gonna be giving you during your. At your grocery stores.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, people are gonna. People are gonna say, oh, you know, the government's gonna provide everything for you and stuff. And.

[C]

Or you have fake jobs like in New Jersey where you can't pump your own gas. And so they create this job that doesn't necessarily need to exist.

[A]

Dude, this video, this. This clip from the beginning where the kids picking up the strawberry milk is like mucus. There's a bunch of videos of them picking up mucus that, like, that's not milk. You can't pick up milk like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What is.

[B]

I don't know what has to happen to milk for it to get that.

[A]

That's Gak. Remember Gak?

[B]

Oh, yeah. That's like. That's like. It's like someone said, I don't know. You can't do that on television. Just the stuff.

[A]

Just Nickelodeon Gak Splat. Here you go. For those that aren't familiar. Wait, I gotta close this first. Gak was a toy in the 90s from Nickelodeon, you know, that probably was

[D]

just made of the worst chemicals ever too. We're gonna die because we had that stuff.

[A]

Nickelodeon Jack Splat.

[B]

I mean, Cornstarch goes into anything and makes that kind of stuff.

[E]

There you go.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Gak just took me back in time,

[B]

which, I mean, that was just. That was just a. An evolution of the green slime that they made.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And you can't do that on television.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

If you said, I don't know.

[A]

So this is. This is. This is the world that the left wants for you. You'll live in the pod and you'll eat the bugs.

[B]

Yeah. And now look, there are plenty of people out there that'll be like, I'd be fine. I, I, I would choose that over having to go to work for some terrible boss.

[A]

You're going to go to the pod, the pod facility, and you're gonna, like, they're gonna open up the pod and you're gonna lay down. It's gonna be the most comfortable thing you've ever. You're gonna like, wow, this is really nice. And they're like, here's what we do. The tube goes down your throat, the neural link band goes on your head, and then you enter any reality that you want and you never have to leave. And they're all going to say yes, and they're gonna pump that gunk into your belly to keep you alive.

[D]

Perfect.

[A]

Yep. Yeah, but it won't matter you, because you won't experience it. You'll be fighting dragons or whatever. You'll be Harry Potter.

[B]

You'll never be hungry again because you'll

[A]

be fighting Voldemort on loop.

[B]

Stomach will be full of that stuff of gak.

[A]

I genuinely wonder, though, what will happen to the human brain if they are given a paradise? Like in the Matrix. They said the human, the first Matrix was a paradise, but the human mind rejected it because it needed conflict.

[E]

There's a Dostoevsky quote that pretty much says, like, you can have that, but you'll still need purpose. Like, I can't remember the quote exactly.

[A]

I mean, like, what would life be like if you won at everything you were trying to do? Would you be happy?

[D]

No, no, but it's the same argument that people have. Whenever, like, whenever a celebrity dies or something bad happens and they complain, they're like, what are they complaining about? They've got money, right?

[A]

They say, she's so lucky, she's a star.

[D]

They've got rich, they've got money, they've got fame. It's like, well, yeah, but why do you think so many rich people end up with drug problems? Right? Because they find a way to need more conflict in their lives. You take care of one need and another problem arises and you need constraints.

[C]

Like, that's what makes life so fun, is it's limited and finite. And if you're just able to keep on respawning in your brain.

[A]

I mean, that's why I can't stand communists, because they think the grass is greener everywhere. And then they're confused when, like, some dude wins the lottery and then just hates his life.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, look, communists think that, that the, the state of, they've said all the time, the state of nature. You're just chilling and you can go out and get, you know, berries or what, hat whatever and it's, it's, it's super. It's just, you know, before capitalism life was so blah, blah, blah and it's like, like life, existence itself is struggle. Like you, you are struggling against nature which wants to kill you. All the animal like any kind of

[A]

predators want to kill you. Physics are trying to strip the particles from your body all the time, spread them across the universe.

[D]

You sound like he's like get it? Like use the last of your man, of your man made possessions. Sell them, buy a tent.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Now go out into the woods and survive on your own.

[A]

I mean just, you can, you can

[B]

watch these YouTube videos of people that are like, oh, I'm gonna sell everything and I'm going to go out and I'm going to build a homestead and look how easy that is. Like it is non stop work. They work from when they get up until they go to bed and then they hope that a bear doesn't come and steal their food and stuff. It's, it's just they're, they're incredibly, incredibly naive.

[D]

There's also not, it's not just the have nots in what in society. It's also like there is like I've seen a resurgence on my ex timeline of people who work in corporate America. So you might think they're working the right. Maybe they work like a 12 hour a day shift at some high finance company or something like that. Or maybe they're just an eight hour a day somebody, they go, they punch in at 9, they leave at 5 and they're like I have to spend Sunday like taxing myself and getting ready to go in on Monday because it's not me. It's like they literally are creating more conflict there because you will adapt to the situation you're in and find a way to make it worse.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Like I saw, I forget where it was. I saw this, this great quote about the way that socialists view the world. Like I said, it's, it's this, it's like they, they say that our, our society is so terrible and capitalism is so oppressive, but they're literally comparing it to like heaven or like, like a, an imaginary society that doesn't and has never existed. I should get to make a quote.

[E]

It's a shower upon him every earthly blessing, give him economic prosperity such that he should have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with a continuation of his species. And even then, out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play some nasty trick. So it's kind of like even if you have everything, you still need to like.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, look, there are people. There are people that even if their lives were perfect, they would do something destructive to throw some kind of chaos into their lives. And they would just as likely do those same things to other people around them, you know, throw chaos into their life somehow.

[D]

They're also imagining a world where they get to do whatever they want every day. And they imagine that whatever that is is like their hobbies. But it's like how many old people retire and they immediately go get a job because they need something, they need structure, they need something they have to accomplish every day and their relationships too.

[C]

I mean, the amount of small business owners reach out with. They're retiring and they're like, part of the reason. I've been married for 40 years. I work 40 hours a week.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, you're just staring at each other all day long. You're going to go insane.

[B]

You're like, oh, God, I have to look at you again.

[A]

I don't think so. I think if I wasn't working full time, me and my wife would be going like skiing and then rock climbing and then.

[C]

But for how many years in a row? You don't think you. Forever.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you do it. Yeah, easy. Some people are lucky, I guess.

[D]

Can I see a question? So, so basically, can you give people your. The description of your. Of your business again?

[C]

Yeah. So we focus when owners want to retire and their kids don't want to take over the business. Small business owners.

[D]

It's so like, literally this is one of those stories that used to be quintessential to like television and movies, which is like the kid who doesn't want to continue in the family business. And I was like, nobody does that anymore. Because I feel like, like if my, I, I wish my dad had owned a business that would have like, chose my path for me in a way. Like.

[A]

But this is what we've been talking about with, like, in Japan, we've talked quite a bit about Niigata, for instance, where all the young people are moving to Tokyo because they want to be around each other. And then what's happening is in all of these surrounding rural and suburban and smaller town areas, the population is hollowing out. So the community is very small. So they're all moving to dense urban centers. Hyper centralizing. That means all the businesses and all the family properties and everything they own is being abandoned. So we're seeing that in the United

[C]

States, and for us, it's like, it's a national security issue because all of the manufacturing, I mean, a lot of the times the owners are actually pushing their kids way. Growing up, they would say flee for the fences because NAFT and whatnot had just stripped any profit out of running those businesses. And so the risk of the country is like, hey, we need this manufacturing supply chain to continue on. And then from a job creation point of view, I think over the last 25 years, small businesses created two out of every three jobs. It's actually not the Metas and the Amazons of the world. It's all these small electrical contractors and manufacturing plants throughout the country. So. So it's. It's pretty important to make sure that they continue on. And you don't want to do it in a way where it's all just rolled up by Wall street because then it's not creating local wealth or keeping the jobs in the community.

[D]

Feels like that's what, like, I. We were explaining this on the show, like, a couple of weeks ago. I said, like, it doesn't feel like the American dream anymore is to, like, start a business and pass it on to your kids. Now it feels like it's start a business and hope for a private equity firm to come up and buy it and make it worse.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, that. That may be true for, like, younger folks. A lot of the owners that we partner with, I mean, we're not. We can't pay private equity prices, so they take a discount to partner with us because they want their number two to take it over or they want the business to still be the sponsor of the Little League or the veterans. They pray. So I think there's like a lot of kind of American economic life that's still very, like, good and positive is just not the stuff that's necessarily, like, talked about on the news.

[D]

What type of businesses go through this process with you?

[C]

We focus on manufacturing and then the trades. So what we call, like, critical economy businesses. So actually, tomorrow I'm going up to middle of Pennsylvania. We're partnering with this owner who's retiring. We're backing his number two, and it's a peanut processor. The employee, it's like the number one employer in town. So we're buying that from him and then partnering with Chris, who's the operator.

[B]

Well, one of the things that the socialists don't realize is when they rail against the wealthy, they're railing against the guy that Owns the peanut farm.

[C]

Totally. And that's the guy who gets penalized by this grocery store nonsense.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. To your point, the fact that at some point in recent history, small business employed two out of three people, like I imagine those numbers are similar still. I mean, I, I mean, yeah, obviously Walmart and, and Amazon and there are some big companies that, that do have a lot of employees, but still you've got most people working for companies or businesses that are in their small town. And the, the, the socialists, they love to go ahead and say, you know, we, it's a class war, right? The people that are, we're after the, the million, they, they say billionaires now, but they really mean anyone that has more than them. And they would go after the gu, the car dealership in your town. He's worth over a million dollars, probably well over a million dollars because he's got a loan out on every single car on his lot and he owns the building or whatever. But it's like that guy employs 40 or 50 people. And if you put him out, you put all those people out of work. And those people are your, are the working class that these, these socialists swear up and down that they're there for. If you go after the grocery store owner or the, you know, you're gonna put 50, 70 people out of work because they're the ones that are stocking the shelves, they're ringing people out, they're bagging the groceries, they're doing all the things that are necessary. You put all these people out of work because you wanted to go ahead and stick it to the man and go after the millionaires and because they, they had unfairly come, you know, they had unfairly stolen the, the, the profit that the workers actually earned. It's like this kind of, this kind of one dimensional thinking, this kind of, this, this misunderstanding of how society works, it destroys not just whole countries, but if you have bad people in your local government, it destroys cities totally.

[C]

And it's like the number, the coolest stat is it's the number one trusted institution in the US like every single year Gallup has done their poll. Small business is number one. And so like, if you start to destroy those, you just destroy social cohesion. Whatever we have left of it.

[B]

All these people that are swearing up and down that they want to, they want to help the working class. Honestly, the best way they could help the working class is to get rid of a lot of the regulations and red tape that small businesses in their municipalities have to jump through to, to expand their Business, start their business, blah, blah, blah.

[C]

Oh yeah. A buddy of mine was trying to open a foundry in South Carolina and he was actually, before Lindsey Graham passed, was, was working with him on trying to identify all the red tape. And in order to open it they had to do a two year study on some like spotted toad. And the impact of the foundry, like, it's insane.

[B]

It's ridiculous. And that's a, that's at the federal level too, right? Yeah. Because the EPA stuff. Yeah. The best thing that could happen to America is the abolition of the epa. Just get it, get rid of it. It is such a hindrance on any kind of progress. I know people that are going to make us think about that because God forbid we get rid of some kind of something that protects. But it doesn't end up protecting things and it protects the big companies.

[C]

Companies, sure. Expensive. The small ones.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

In, in those businesses that you're talking about. It's kind of like what we were talking about last week about the idea of like the American spirits. And the American spirit is tied to, you know, it's creating something for yourself. It's building a company, finding something that society needs and offering it to other people and taking risks to do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And those companies are the ones that kind of build the bag. You know, when people think of America, I guess you do think of a lot of like cultural exports with big, big companies like an Amazon or a Google or all of these companies that have been founded here in the US but that's not what keeps America America,

[B]

you know, to that, to that point. Right. So I saw something that said that Elon Musk is now has lost like 30 of his wealth because the Tesla stock has gone down and stuff. All these people that were swearing up and down that it was an abomination and it was abhorrent that we had a trillionaire, blah, blah, blah. And they would have taxed Elon Musk, you know, half of his property or whatever because of, you know, the money they believe that he has in his bank account because he's, he's a trillionaire. And they're so offended. None of them would want to share in that kind of loss. Losing that pain to get it. Yeah. You know, so it's, it's just so incredibly ignorant. And so again, motivated by envy, motivated by just, you know, you have too much and I don't have enough. And I don't. And by I don't have enough, what they mean is I don't have the ability to eat every single meal from doordash.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

The funny thing is, is like, okay, 25 to 30 years of skating, which means I go out and you go do street skating tricks on various properties. And one thing that I've always pointed out to people over the years said, you know, where you go on the weekends where there's people in the office all the time, it's not at the big corporations, where there's a security guard in this massive high rise there to kick you out. It's the people in the, that run plumbing businesses. It's the people that run all of these small trades. They're there on the weekends, they're always working or, you know, they, maybe they take Sunday off, you know, and do, you know, hang out with their family, but they're there on Saturday. And that type of, that type of grind, that type of work ethic is something that should be celebrated totally.

[C]

And I think 2/3 of the founding fathers came over to create small businesses and they own small businesses. Either they themselves created it or like John Adams, like it gets passed on. So it's in the country's DNA. And I think attacking them, and not even deliberately attacking them, but doing stuff that ultimately hurts them is, is really foolish.

[B]

You, you mentioned in the country's DNA, and that's a big part of the reason why I'm so against all this mass immigration. Because the people make the country, right? The, the population that you have, they make your country what it is. And if you have people that are industrious and looking to, and have a can do attitude, and this is something we talked about a little bit lately, the people that come to America, historically, up until about 1965 or so, they were people that believed that they were happening to the world, right? They were going to go and do something and they were going to make their lives. Then the people that have come since 19, since the, the 60s and stuff, it's been fewer and fewer and fewer of those people and more people that are looking for the United States to do something for them. And if you come to the United States thinking United States, I want you to help me. I want you to, to give me a handout, you know, to, to provide for me. You're going to end up changing the population and you're going to make. The United States creates a less functional society and less prosperous society.

[A]

Let's go to the story from the Wall Street Journal. It's World War 3, boys. The Ukrainians hit Iranian supply lines to Russia and the Caspian. And now speculation is emerging that the two wars are about to become one because Tehran is threatening retaliation on Ukraine for their strikes on their supply lines. And of course, we're at war with Iran and supplying Ukraine. So this is where I guess we get World War III.

[B]

I mean, World War 3. Look how historically how world wars have started. You know, it's, it's been expand expansion of, of existing wars. So look, I mean, it's possible you

[C]

get China in the mix and we're there. I mean, and they're definitely behind Iran.

[A]

Well, the, the Iran war cutting off the Strait of Hormuz has isolated them from their oil imports. So they're down 44% since start of the war. So they're pissed off off.

[C]

And I saw they're behind a lot of the targeting to the CIA bases and some of our other and likely

[A]

flying weapon components into Iran. So, you know, World War iii.

[B]

Yeah, great, great news.

[A]

I mean, how old are you?

[C]

I'm 31.

[A]

None of us are in line for draft, so why do I care? You know, it's Gen Z out the door, boys. I got Pick it up, pack it in.

[B]

If, if it. Only if it happened. Only if it's over fairly quickly. I got, I got a boy that I don't want to being drafted.

[A]

But it's funny because a bunch of people are asking why Laura Loomer has all of a sudden flipped on Ukraine and why she's so supportive of Zelensky, who, by the way, zelensky is in D.C. right now, so he's just on a street and. But people are like, what happened that Laura Loomer was calling Zelensky a Nazi? And then all of a sudden she's just like, I was wrong and I'm behind Ukraine. At this point. I think the issue is as these wars merge, Trump is going to be between a rock and a hard place. He's going to be forced to support Ukraine because Ukraine is now fighting Iran, who is supplying Russia, who is fighting Ukraine. And the US Is going to be involved in a major conflict. And if you are behind Trump, you are going to have to get behind everything involved in this war.

[D]

Wait, so does that mean I have to put a Ukraine flag in my bio?

[A]

Well, you know, it's really funny because in 2024, I posted. Let me, let me pull up this Tweet. Actually from 2024, I posted my unwavering support for Ukraine in 2024 war. Nobody cared. I didn't get any. Let me see where this. What did I post? It's here somewhere. I said, upon reflection, I Now understand that Ukraine is our greatest ally, is the breadbasket of Europe and peace loving people. We cannot allow the fascist Russians to continue their crimes against humanity. We must redouble our efforts and provide an additional $200 billion at once. The point was they're about to vote on this 200 billion dollar pay package. And so I posted that and they're all like, f U Tim Port Pool. So then this weekend I posted, Ukraine has been fighting for their very existence against an evil dictator. I see now the importance of the Ukrainian victory against Russia. I hope Trump and the people of the United States will lend their support. And all of a sudden a wave of the corporate press was like, Tim Pool flips now supports Ukraine. And I was like, well technically I flipped in 2024. So I'm just, I'm on both sides of the issue. But I will just say at this point with like the Ukraine conflict has not been a big component of American politics in a couple of years. I'm fairly ambivalent. I know that if we get involved in, if this does bubble up, the only thing you can really do is hope, that is advocate for resolution, but stand with the United States despite not liking how it's playing out. But it is funny how what I really think is the media latched onto this narrative not because they genuinely believe these journalists, genuinely, they don't think that I actually flip flop. They know that I troll post all the time, but they want it to be true. They want to be able to go and say, see, even Maga now is supporting Ukraine because it looks like the war is about to get crazy.

[D]

I get many messages from people who don't know that you post as such.

[A]

Like, like, does Tim really support Ukraine now?

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

I mean, I can't remember the most recent one, but yes, something as similar. And usually I don't even see the post. So I'm like, he's probably, he's probably joking. And then I don't really look any further.

[A]

I posted also like a day later because I saw the reaction. I'm like, I'm getting notifications, being like ABC News wrote it up and like Axios. So I then tweeted, ukraine and Israel have done nothing wrong and we must lend our complete and total support. I'm like, look, the point is this guys. Journalists don't actually do any work. I mean, some do, but these people writing this either are intentionally lying or they don't actually do any research. Not a single one of them called me and asked me for comment. They just Write what they want the narrative to be. And if what I write fits their narrative, they'll roll with it. So again, in 2024, when I said I see now, I was wrong. They ignore it because they don't want that narrative. It's an election year. They want to say Tim Pool is Russian. Then when it's not a presidential election year and the war is ramping up and I tweet basically the same thing, they go, see, even Tim Pool now supports Russia. I'm sorry, Ukraine.

[D]

It also doesn't matter because they could, they could just post the same headline and then in the article, in the last paragraph, say it's likely that he was being sarcastic, as he often does this on the Internet. But nobody reads that far in the article anyways.

[B]

No, it's headlines, just headlines.

[A]

But if this goes World War III and it's looking like the wars are going to. I mean, I mean, the Wall Street Journal is reporting that they've converged, right. That Ukraine is hitting the Iranians. So what? Trump's going to have no choice. Congress is going to double down. They're going to say, oh, well, we have to support Ukraine now. Now Trump's going to say, well, you know, look, the Iranians, they're backing Russia. And here we go, baby.

[B]

I hope not really.

[C]

Ukraine hit them.

[A]

Caspian, the Caspian Sea.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah. Iran was supplying the drones that Russia's been using to kamikaze into Ukraine. But now Iran, of course, is in trouble. And I wonder if that's a component of this war, like the reason why one of the reasons Trump goes after Iran could be because they're supplying weapons to Russia and China.

[D]

He just really, really likes Ukraine and had to find a roundabout way to support them.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think he to find a roundabout way. He's literally supporting him.

[D]

Yeah, no, I'm saying that like it just, he couldn't do it beforehand, earlier in the, in the term.

[E]

Right.

[D]

Because it wasn't relevant in 2025.

[B]

He also ra their long range strikes

[C]

against Russia are pretty impressive. What they've been able to turn around.

[B]

Yeah, they, I mean, they're hit.

[A]

I mean, look, look at this. I mean, the Caspian is not close to Ukraine.

[C]

Basically, they cross over Russia to then hit them in the Caspian.

[A]

Let's just be real. When we say Ukraine, we mean America. It's the United States. You get a guy with Ukrainian accent to push the button, it's still the Americans that are doing it.

[D]

You know, it's like a Scooby Doo thing. Let's just see who you really are, Mr.

[B]

I mean, look, to be honest with you, like, it's not really a surprise that, that, that, you know, Ukraine's gonna do things to try to prevent weapons from getting there. And this is exactly how, you know, his past wars have escalated. You know, the World War I, I believe it was. The Germans started attacking U.S. vessels that were going to the U.K. you know, and, and the, in World War II, like, the, the justification for the attack on Pearl harbor was the embargo. And these things tend to spiral out of control.

[C]

Even like Franz Ferdinand, it's just like

[B]

kind of a random, Nobody knew who Franz Ferdinand was. No one cared. But, you know, as soon as he got killed, everybody starts picking sides. I mean, it's going to be, it will obviously be that the Europeans will side with you, with Ukraine. So the, if there is some kind of, you know, expansion of the war, it's gonna turn into Europe and the United States versus Russia and China and Iran. I'm not sure who's going to align with, who else would align with, with Iran and China, but, you know, you're gonna have all of NATO.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Going ham. And it's just, just bad news, man. Just bad news. These kind of, these, like I said, these things, they spiral out of control. So what, I don't know how you, how you actually get out of it, though.

[A]

I mean, I just, I just figure, I don't see this wrapping up anytime soon with, with, with Trump saying, like, oh, we've got a new peace deal and all this stuff. It's a yo, yo. And now with strikes in the Caspian, I don't see a path towards de. Escalation. I, I mean, this is as bad as it could get. The only thing that I see is likely at this point is that China gets involved. China's cut off from about half of their oil. They're not going to sit back and do nothing.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And as this, this conflict grows, this just means China can now count, they can count how many eggs they got left. Guys, the Hormuz is not reopening after this. You're not getting your oil back. So what is China going to do?

[B]

I don't, I don't think China's gonna, gonna overtly go kinetic and they, then

[A]

they cease to exist.

[C]

You think they go after Taiwan?

[B]

No.

[A]

If China does not get their oil back, they cease to exist. Well, Russia's constrained. They're at war. Their supply lines are getting hit. They're, they're already shifting into a wartime economy. They've already shifted into a wartime economy. So China needs to get oil from Russia, but now they're struggling there. I mean, I got to be honest, it looks like pulling Russia, the conflict with Russia is beneficial to the US in that. That it forces Russia to divert its energy. So China gets cut off, and then the straight, the cut. The closing of the Strait of Hormuz has cut off China from its oil. China's been isolated. They have no choice. They can cease to exist or they

[E]

can go to war.

[B]

I don't, I don't.

[A]

I don't mean literally cease to exist. I'm going to say their economy is going to go down, it's going to get bad, their standard of living is in decline, or they can fight.

[B]

Well, China has the ability because they're, They're. They've got such a, you know, significant control in their population. They can absorb that kind of stuff in a way that the United States can't. They can just say, this is the way it is. Sorry. You know, people don't have the ability to, to. They, they might demonstrate. They might actually start rising up and stuff. But you're going to see, you know, China will put the kibosh on that stuff real quick. They're not going to allow people to, to be out in the streets. They have shown that they have no compunction with welding people into their homes. And so even if China does start to seek some kind of civil unrest, if they have to turn, you know, ration power or whatever, that's an option for them. That's not an option in Western countries. Yeah, because they, they.

[D]

But what about the LEDs and all the buildings? That's. I mean, everybody tells me that's why China is the greatest place LED. All the buildings have big purple LEDs.

[B]

LEDs don't use a lot of electricity. They can keep those lights on. They're. They're very low, low impact.

[C]

The longer this goes on with the Strait, they're building pipelines right now to bypass it, which then ultimately just shoots Iran in the foot because they no longer have a negotiating.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, Iran is in, is not in a good position. Like, no matter. People are saying, oh, you know, there are people out there that are critical of the United States saying, oh, Iran won. And it's like, look, man, Iran is not doing better today than they were six months ago. Like, that is just flat out. They're not.

[C]

And they've just started getting the ball rolling to them ultimately not having relevance. If people don't actually have to go Go through the strait.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

The argument they're making when they say Iran won, it's not so much that Iran is in a better position. I imagine it's like what it's done to Trump's approval rating and how people reacted to the conflict is probably what

[B]

they mean by maybe, maybe some of them. But there are a lot of people that are just like, oh, all Iran has to do is survive and, and they win. And so they're essentially making the argument that because Iran, the Iranian, the Iranian regime, the irgc, they're still in a position of authority, ostensibly, some of them at least, are in a position of power in Iran. They're saying that, that, you know, the U.S. or the U.S. lost, but it's not over. First of all, the U.S. just, I guess they stop strikes today or what have you Friday.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I mean, I don't, I don't know. They stop them and start all the time. Right.

[D]

Every time I'm on the show, they've just stopped.

[B]

Yeah. It's legitimately hard to keep track as to whether or not bombs are being dropped on Iran or not as of, you know, whatever time it is.

[D]

I just noticed the gas price. That's how I know when something's happening. When the gas prices spike back up again.

[B]

Yeah, well, gas prices are probably going to spike again because they already were. Well, Trump is. Trump had dug into the reserves, the strategic reserves to keep, to try to keep prices down. But out of everybody that's actually involved in the conflict in Iran, the US Is still the bet in the best position. We've still got oil coming in from Venezuela. We're, because we, you know, shifted the relationship with Venezuela.

[D]

Shifted.

[B]

Yeah, you like that? But, you know, because we, we changed the politics in the Western hemisphere, so the US Is in a much better position than Iran is. Iran, they're, you know, their currency lost something like, you know, half of its value or more since the, the war started. They're continuously losing people in, high in their, in their government. You know, just because they can harass ships that go through the straight of Hormuz doesn't mean that, you know, Iran's in some, in, in some great position and able to project power at all. Clearly the Ukrainians aren't allowing it. You know, they're, they're not, they're not able to supply their, their partners in the region. If you consider, you know, Russia in the region. China can't buy their oil in the same, in the same quantities that they were. So, so it's not like Iran is doing well. Whether or not this actually does expand into something more, we'll see. You know, I, I don't, I don't know. But again, history being any kind of teacher, you know, this is how things, you know, spiral out of control.

[D]

I think that's what they told the, the Delta Force operators when they sent him from Maduro. They're, we're just gonna shift things a little bit. Let's, let's go shift stuff.

[B]

They just said, do you guys want to go? And they're like, hell yeah, we want to go. All that support and we get to run in there and kick in the door. You know, we want to go there. I mean all those dudes are like, I want to be on a history making mission. And that is one of the more baller things that the US Military has done. Fly into a country, turn the capital off and just snatch the lawlessly. Yeah, snatch the, the President and say you're coming with us.

[A]

I, I think all this has to do with China and if it was really about Iran, we would have just taken out their infrastructure and be done. I mean this is like a month. You go in, you target critical infrastructure. The country is just gone. But I think Trump's been yoyoing back and forth because it just, it keeps the Gulf nations from exporting oil and it puts a block on this while Trump is acting like he's not the aggressor against the Gulf states. So if the war with Iran resolves, China gets their oil back. Trump needs to hobble this and make sure we're constantly at war with Iran so that the Gulf remains closed.

[D]

So to what end? Like how long can that go on for?

[A]

For forever. We're ramping up oil production in the Gulf of America and we're selling more oil that way. So the US has become a net oil exporter. Then you cut off China, choke them out. Now Ukraine's targeting Iranian shipments to Russia and the Caspian. Sounds like us told them to do it. I don't think Ukraine does anything on their own. So here we go boys. If, if China does not strike back, then we just win.

[B]

I mean, sure.

[A]

Great.

[B]

Well, I, I don't know that the UK that Ukraine doesn't do anything on their own, but they definitely would have been, you know, helped by the U. S. Target US trying to target those ships. You know, I'm not sure that, that Ukraine has the capability to do those kind of strikes from Ukraine. What's this Singapore?

[A]

I'm just looking at the south, the

[B]

South Pacific, China Sea.

[A]

Yeah, the immaterial to the conversation.

[B]

One of the. Well, one of the things about the South China Sea is China's been building up, you know, essentially islands for their own use, you know, in. In violation of international law. International law, which is the most fake thing you can imagine. So. But I. China's still not in a position where they're able to, you know, as much as they're a threat to the United States, if we were to go to China to fight them, they're not in a position where they can just take on the United States because, you know, we buy everything from them. We. We. China is the manufacturing hub basically of the world. They sell a ton of stuff to Europe and a ton of stuff to the United States. If there were to be some kind of conflict, that was Russia, China and Iran, look, it's going to be NATO, and then that means that Europe stops buying Chinese stuff and the US Stops buying Chinese stuff on as much as they possibly can. I know that there's oftentimes back. Backroom deals and stuff.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But like the US has been moving to do, to be able to, you know, re. Industrialize and do some of the manufacturing that we've been relying on China to do. Obviously, we're years away from being, you know, having everything up and running, but the Chinese, they rely on the rest of the world to purchase their goods. So there is a lot of downside for China to get into some kind of conflict. It makes more sense for China to probably try and keep the peace and work with the Western countries, Europe and the US and try to keep things as close to the status quo as they can. Because, you know, to Tim's point, they. They need that kind of revenue, they need that economic activity to keep people from, you know, starting to protest and having to put the boot down. Because whether or not they can put the boot down, I'm sure that they don't want to have to do that kind of. That kind of thing. It causes a massive headache for him. And, you know, Xi Jinping, I think he just got rid of like, half the military. Yeah. There was a purge earlier this year. So there's plenty of things in China that are going on that are not good for the party and that they don't want things to get out of control, which I think is part of the reason why in the first place, when the strike started, China didn't come out and say, you know, they didn't say, oh, we're going to help our allies and blah, blah, blah. It's like, they were just like, you know, this is probably bad, you know, and that was the extent of it. They didn't make any kind of super strong statements. They didn't send, say that they were going to send a support. They didn't do anything like that. They were just like, yeah, you probably shouldn't attack Iran. You know, it's bad. That was about the, the, the whole thing, you know, So I, I just don't see, I don't see China really stepping up.

[A]

That's fine. They'll cease to exist then. They, they, they don't have the means of, of getting the energy they need to sustain their population. You know, what's really funny is there's another way you can look at this. Fat people have to eat food to maintain the existing fat on their body.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So like, if you are fat and you want to lose weight, you actually don't got to do anything. You literally just eat a normal amount of food and your body can't sustain the amount of fat on your body, so it reduces itself. That's, that's kind of the point. China has grown to a certain degree because of their energy imports. Now that they're cut off from them, they will not be able to maintain their population size.

[D]

It will just start slim and trim over there, there.

[A]

So they could fight. And if they don't, then their population just starts collapsing faster than it already is. I mean, and then they're gone.

[B]

Even if they, even if they fight, they're going to lose. If, if it actually becomes a hot war, there's going to be, you know, significant loss of life that way too.

[A]

That's not an argument against fighting.

[B]

I'm just saying that every fight could

[A]

result in, like you fighting someone else could result in your death, but people still choose to do it. Question is, do you just bend the knee and say, my liege, or do you say, I'd rather go down swinging? And if your opinion is that China's gonna just give up.

[B]

I don't, I don't think that they're gonna give up. I think that they, I think.

[A]

How do they get their energy imports back?

[B]

I don't know. But just because I don't know doesn't mean that they don't have a plan. I mean, like, you know, I mean, they, they. Right now China's on, China's, China's on an all in type of how do

[A]

you, how do you get your oil back from the Gulf when the Gulf is closed?

[B]

So I'm. The point that I make, ask politely the Point that I'm making is they're in an all in energy infrastructure buildup. They're, they're building that new dam. They've got the Three Gorges dam. They've been building I think 10 nuclear reactors a year. They've got solar everywhere.

[A]

So yes, they do need, you can't alter, you can't transform an oil based economy in even 10 or 20 years. It's not possible. It's, we're talking generational changes. So if China wants their energy imports back, back, they have to force the strait open in some capacity. They're not, they're getting cut off from

[B]

Russia because Russia's, they've been going around, they've been going around sanctions for forever.

[A]

We're not talking about sanctions. We're talking about the fact that 44% of their energy is gone because the straits disrupted. So whether they're bypassing sanctions is immaterial. Russia's fighting a war. The war is expanding. So Russia's sales to China has diminished and now they just lost half of their energy. They can build whatever dams they want, but they need the calories. The amount of energy you get from oil is insane. Nuclear energy is a lot better but you still need initial energy source to manufacture those plants. So again, China's choices are to fight to survive or they're going to just have a massive depression. They're not going to be able to maintain an oil based economy. They're already struggling. They're tapping into their strategic reserves reserves which they had built up just before this war which is now largely depleted and now they're deploying electric taxis because they, they can't, because they don't have the oil for the gas, for, for, for cars.

[B]

China, China's reserves in December were 1.4 billion barrels and they're, and then the

[A]

war started and they got cut off from half their energy and they've been tapping into it and they've been shifting off of gas vehicles for public works because they're hurting. And so whatever the amount that they're burning down now is, they're burning down and they've lost half their oil. So if China does not find a way to get this energy back, their growth stops, which I think is Trump's intention. Or they fight and try and get it back somehow. But I, I, I'm not suggesting China could win. I'm saying that I don't see a likelihood that China just says I guess we die because I don't think any country has ever done that.

[D]

That is way boring. That movie just doesn't have a satisfying conclusion.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I suppose there are probably countries in existence that have just been like, I give up.

[D]

I guess I'll just die then.

[A]

Yeah. But, like, considering, like, even the Irish were just like, no, there's always some kind of resistance. I have to imagine the Chinese government's going to try and do something. I mean, the reality is they are trying to do things. Now the question is, will they escalate what they're trying to do and how can they do it? I think obviously what they'll do is they'll attack the US Political infrastructure because they need to stop Trump. So I wouldn't be surprised. We already heard from Trump that China was trying to fund these journalists that were anti Trump so they could hurt him. But Trump wins. Trump's gonna be president. We'll see what happens in the midterms. But the internal politics is probably the most important thing on China's docket list. Whether or not they can stop Donald Trump and the Republicans. Because if Democrats get in, China's got carte blanche.

[C]

I think the other piece is they've done such a huge ground game in Africa. China has. And so I think there's a question of, like, how much can they juice from there. They've been responsible for a majority of the infrastructure built out there, which is pretty crazy, both for oil and rare earths.

[A]

Indeed. And now Trump is like, we're going to start producing our own rare earths, we're going to start producing our own chips, we're going to start mass producing oil, but we are going to go to your Rumble rants and super chats. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life. We got the uncensored portion coming up at 10pm you don't want to miss it on Rumble, but for now, let's read what you guys got to say. Phalanx says if Trump were 10% of the fascists the left hearts think he is, he would check those loan details to see if they valued the building above what the IRS says the building is worth. That's a good idea. And he should do that. Filthy peas. Is that what it says? Love your work, Tim. Thank you. I do think the last time you made a mistake, the study about increased housing Cost said that 30% of gross growth was due to illegal migration, rather than 30 overall. Agree to disagree. It was talking about the growth of prices. Like, that's that that. Unless you mean like, it's not a direct correlation to Pricing just a strain. Is that the point? I don't know.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

It was talking about price increases, and I don't know what you mean by the growth or overall. You're saying, like, there are more houses being produced or you're saying the overall cost has gone up because the costs have gone up. And the general reporting we saw, outside of just the actual article, which used, like, you know, acronyms generally reported, was that the. The price increases was the result of mass migration. Costa says, joining the club in the delivery room. Delivery room. Waiting for my wife to give birth to our first. Congratulations.

[B]

Congratulations.

[A]

Me, though, says we also don't build desalination plants because of the energy requirements. The energy it takes to make that much steam is insane. The way the desalination plant in Carlsbad works is that they have a big, like, warehouse building with PVC pipes, and in them is a very fine filter. It's like one micron or something. At high pressure, they blast water through it, which allows water to go through, but not other, you know, minerals and bacteria and whatever else. Then they can't just have granule, like, you know, crystallized salt jamming up the filters. So what they do is they. There's. It's not that they're extracting all the salt from the water, it's that they're splitting the water from small amounts of fresh water and large amounts of brine. They then pump that warm brine back into the ocean, which does not immediately mix with the water. It sticks to the bottom because it's heavier, sinks down and blankets the sea, the seabed that kills all of the lowest forms of life. And then that creates a ripple effect where up the chain, the fish that feed on the plankton that feed on the, you know, the bottom feeders, whatever, they all die. And then everything above dies and you get dead zones. So they don't build these en masse because they're destructive, expensive, inefficient. But you know what? No one ever accused these people, these comedians, of being smart. All right, what do we got here? El Jefe Lopez says pure bloods check in. Guido says, tim, you do know some people are on GLP1s for diabetes, right? And it works great for type 2. Indeed. That was the initial intention of Ozempic. It was about diabetes. And then they found that people got sick and didn't want to eat food and were like, what. What happens? Like, you vomit. Is that what it is?

[D]

All sorts of side effects. And.

[E]

And, yeah, one.

[A]

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I Think that might be true? I've heard that. But, yeah, they were like, hey, wait a minute, this makes me feel sick and I don't want to eat. And they were like, you could lose weight by doing this.

[D]

Then the. Then the people who needed it, the people with diabetes that need it, weren't able to find it for a while because they were. They weren't producing enough because they were prescribing so much for it off late.

[A]

I just. I absolutely love that all these fat celebrities that were pretending to enjoy being fat got on Oz Epic in two seconds, and they were like, now I am not sad anymore. Just lies.

[D]

And it's such a ridiculous thing, too, because, like, all. All the work that it takes to actually change how you look, it's. It's tied to your ability to not just, like, not be like an overeater, but also get exercise, which kind of plays a role in, like, how you feel about yourself, because you're actually taking an active role in changing yourself. So you're just short circuiting your brain and going straight to the easy part, and so none of it sticks when you go off of it.

[A]

Hank Fett says it sounds like Democrats are banking on taking the House and the Senate so they can reopen USAID and go back to funneling money to themselves.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, that sounds like a possibility. Let's see. Mike here says you can get a charge for hitting someone with a cell phone. Ask Sticks why. What happened?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

He hits him with a cell phone, huh?

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

Brit Griffith, Mower Racing, says they are getting a loan to float past the midterms because they think they're going to win and they can restart usaid.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

Well, I. They got money coming from somewhere, because the only way to explain the Odyssey.

[E]

Odyssey.

[B]

What was that?

[A]

You didn't hear? All the conspiracy theories is USA last. People were posting all over on Reddit that they were going to the theaters to see the Odyssey, but the theaters were half empty, despite the fact that they were full and their seats were unavailable. So people. People would post like, oh, I decided to pick up some tickets for me and my kid, but the theater was full, so I got nose. I got, like, really bad seats, but when I showed up, nobody was there, so ended up just sitting in. In good seats. The conspiracy theory is that Nolan or backers put 100 million into buying up tickets to guarantee big press, big sales, which funnels the money to the theaters and back to them anyway. And then after the press hits, people are like, oh, wow, it must be a big movie. I'll go see it now. Some people responded by saying, you're insane. That's crazy. They would never do this. Which is also the stupidest thing in the world, because while I'm not convinced that they put $100 million into buying fake tickets, they do it for literally every single industry.

[D]

Well, they do it for books.

[A]

They do it for everything.

[D]

To put it on the bestsellers list.

[A]

There is. There is a mechanism by which every creative industry fabricates their views and numbers and streams or whatever it may be to make it look big. And I will say this. I don't believe. Like, listen, go to Times Square, walk up to a random person, and you can say, all right, would you rather go see a horror movie back rooms, or would you like to watch a movie? Homer's the Odyssey. They're gonna go, I just watched the horror movie. Like, what's. Would you rather watch?

[D]

But you're. You're advertising it wrong. You say, Christopher Nolan's the Odyssey. That's. That's not a fair comparison. His name is what sold this movie.

[A]

I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

[D]

You don't believe that that many people went and saw it?

[A]

Well, I don't know about that. I'm just saying his movies have a

[D]

consistent growth box office to box office with every new release. And he did so for. For Oppenheimer to make $943 million off of the bet. Well, outside of seeing an email from Universal Studios saying, like, we need to buy this block of tickets. Scalpers buy tickets and then eat the cost when they're not able to sell them later.

[A]

Yeah, I just think that things end up. The idea that the studios buy their own tickets to FL numbers is probably true. To what degree, I don't know. But they do it for books and they do it for music. Why wouldn't they do it for movies? Why? That's not a conspiracy theory. That's just what the studios do.

[D]

So, no, they do buy it block blocks. Tickets mostly for giveaways and promotional things that they hold. Right.

[A]

And then what happens is the media goes nuts, pumping out a story to everybody saying they just did a hundred million dollar opening weekend and they go, maybe I should go see it. And that's how you create buzz.

[D]

So, okay, so you do that for opening weekend, right? Say. Say we do that. You do it just for opening weekend. It had less than a 30% drop into, which is almost unheard of, which

[A]

kind of proves the point that it had.

[D]

I Mean, that means it made almost as much money in its second weekend as it did in its first weekend,

[A]

which is that kind of proves the point that you buy up tickets as a marketing. So the idea sound like a top movie and then the rest next weekend people show up.

[D]

I mean, maybe I don't, I just

[A]

don't think you're going to people and being like, you want to go see the Odyssey?

[D]

And they're like, not, that's not if they're going to see a Christopher Nolan movie because his name sells.

[A]

And they, and they sold all the tickets on pre sale a year ago.

[D]

They sold the IMAX tickets only a year ago because people want to go see stuff in imax. It's another thing that contributes this. One of the big things going on right now is that there are less tickets of this movie being sold than prior films because tickets just cost more than they did in prior years because inflation causes ticket prices to go up.

[A]

I'm just saying, you go to regular person, you say Spider man or the Odyssey and they'll go, what's the Odyssey like?

[D]

Again, Like I said, you're not advertising this. The, the movie itself is irrelevant. Christopher Nolan's name is what sells this movie.

[A]

I'd be willing to bet that if I went to Times Square and said, do you want to go see Spider man or Christopher.

[E]

No.

[A]

Christopher Nolan's latest film, the response is going to be, who's Christopher Nolan?

[D]

Well, they're not going to, they're not going to say that. But, but Spider man will sell.

[A]

I guarantee you. The name recognition for Christopher Nolan versus Spider man is like 100 to one

[D]

guy who made the Dark Knight trilogy, which is one of the most famous trilogies in all of.

[A]

Sure is. And people don't know the name Christopher Nolan.

[D]

Yes, they do.

[A]

Certainly disproportionate amounts of people do. But again, I'm saying if you go to Times Square and go around asking people who Christopher Nolan is, 1 in 10 might be like, oh, I know who that is.

[D]

There's a reason.

[A]

Come on. Like movie directors. How many movie directors can the average person name right now? Michael Bay right now.

[D]

James Cameron right now. Movie directors are a more bankable thing for the, for the directors that sell. Well, Feige's not a director, he's just a producer. But right now you, they bank more on a director's name selling a movie than they do an actors name.

[C]

Name.

[A]

Yeah. And, and I don't, I just, I think it's all fake.

[D]

Like I said, if, if.

[A]

All right, we're, we're, we're going to make a bet. If out of a hundred people asked in Times Square at random, how many of them, what percentage do you think will know the name Christopher Nolan?

[D]

60 to 75%.

[A]

And, and like actually be able to name one. Like a couple. Let's be fair. Like two of his movies. Is that fair? Yeah, because three fair. Is three too much?

[D]

You could name all three Batman movies and be done with it. So three.

[A]

I don't know that people are going to know in like you are dramatically overestimating the average person. I think people who are into movies will probably know this, but I'd be willing to bet even if you did it, you know, you ever see those, if you did a trivia show, I'd be willing to bet if you did a trivia show and said, who was the director of the Dark Knight Rises? They're going to say, I still don't know.

[D]

This undersells like his movie making the money, that this isn't like the biggest box office of all time. I don't think the numbers that this movie accomplished lend itself to the idea that they had to create a conspiracy around it to sell it. They're saying, okay, this is. They had to use underhanded tactics.

[A]

Is it underhanded? Every industry does it. Every single industry does.

[D]

Argument. The point is not semantics, it's a semantic argument. Because the, the conversation here is about whether this movie organically made the money that.

[A]

So is it marketing or is it people organically showing up to see Homer's the Odyssey by Christopher Nolan?

[D]

I'm. Okay, rephrase the question. Question.

[A]

Is it a marketing.

[D]

But it's not. But not marketing by way of buying tickets. Marketing by way of spending a year. First of all, you do all the pre sale tickets to start. You start advertising the movies. You have to see this movie on 70 millimeter IMAX, which is the most expensive ticket that you can buy. You buy up all, you buy up all the IMAX screens for the next four months. Spider Man's not coming out on imax. Spider Max is coming out on PLF screens. But all the IMAX screenings are going to through until like November.

[A]

The movie industry is not immune to what literally every every other industry does. So what's the argument? That this is the one industry that doesn't do it?

[D]

That's not what I'm saying. My argument is the amount of tickets that would need to be bought to influence the $124 million open.

[A]

100 million?

[D]

No way.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

First of all, X would be posting limitless screenshots.

[A]

What's the marketing budget for, for this movie?

[C]

Movie?

[D]

125 million.

[A]

So they're going to spend 125 million in marketing?

[D]

Yeah, they flew every cast member out to like nine different countries. Yeah, right.

[A]

So has, have there ever been marketing budgets greater than 125 million? Yes, indeed. Many, many times. So what if in this instance, despite the fact that Christopher Nolan. Nolan film, the marketing budget is less than some Marvel movies, they went, let's put half the marketing budget towards pre sale tickets so that we can say it's the number one movie which will boost sales in the following week. Which did happen.

[D]

Would there be. Okay, so would there not have been a bunch more photos on X of people being like, eh, this doesn't make any sense. Why am I in this?

[A]

There were, that's the point. Not all over social media people were posting, they were going to theaters and the theaters were half empty despite the theater being sold out. Now I'm not saying that proves anything. Some people argue, well, people probably bought pre sale tickets and they just ended up not showing up.

[D]

Or, or you could.

[A]

Or scalpers.

[D]

Yes, scalpers. When you buy.

[A]

Which also proves my point.

[D]

When you buy tickets. Tickets, you can have it refunded up until the last minute.

[A]

And so my point is, if you go to Times Square and ask somebody about the Odyssey, they're going to be like, if you go, Christopher Nolan's got a Batman movie coming. They're like, oh, I love Batman. They're not going to go, I love Christopher Nolan.

[D]

Oppenheimer did not. $924 million. It's literally a biopic. That's like almost all governmental hearings.

[A]

Yeah, I know. And I don't believe, believe it. Okay, maybe half that, maybe 700, the initial 200 is marketing a company that's going to put $300 million in marketing. Why would they not be like, hey look, if we do 100 million, that money, half of it cycles back to us in the first place. We can then put up in every media apparatus. We're the biggest movie in the world. Which works like word of mouth. And, and, and, and so like for instance, my favorite example of this is Pirates of the Caribbean 2, which sucked ass, but they were running commercials endlessly saying it was the number one movie in the world.

[D]

Well, they can do that if it's number one on the first Friday was

[A]

Pirates one was a really great movie and people want to see Pirates 2 because Pirate 1 was. Pirates 1 was good Pirates 2 sucked miserably, but Pirates 1 was awesome. So when they say Pirates 2 is the biggest movie in the world, what they're actually saying is Pirates one is the biggest movie in the world and people are hungry for more. So again, that's the point. When you, when you are able to put in media, it's, it's, it's hit 100 million. It's a massive weekend. It's a billion dollar movie. It's the biggest movie. You got to go see it. People hear this, the media starts playing the story over and over and over again. It's, it's worth more in marketing to buy 100 million tickets than it is to buy 100 million in TV commercials.

[D]

That is a lot of seats. And there was not like, yes, there was a lot of picture. How many pictures did you see on X of empty screen screenings? Was it $100 million worth of, of 15 pictures? So.

[A]

And there were like 30 posts on Reddit being like, yo, I went to a theater and it was half empty. One per. There was a couple posts where they're like, I work at a theater. We thought it was gonna be busy, but it wasn't. Even though we were sold out.

[D]

If every single one of those was real, okay, that does not equal out to $100 million worth of purchase tickets. There would be way more examples of.

[A]

Right, because again, let's just say 50 million is self bought, like they would with a book or a song. But movies are bigger, so they'll spend 50 million towards their marketing budget in buying up seats using various companies so that they can claim they've got a bigger weekend than they do, which results in positive press, which word of mouth then travels and results in further sales for the next weekend, which did happen.

[D]

Here's the other thing.

[C]

Let's see them doing that within the first weekend where if they're like number two or number three to another movie, they just dump more money. So they're at number one, which probably helps.

[A]

Look at what, look, look at what Endgame did. Because they, they lost to Avatar. They added unfinished, like unrendered CGI and did a bonus re release just so that they could sell enough tickets to claim they beat Avatar in the box office. There's all, it's like, it's all fake.

[D]

There was, there was no reason to do that because there was no other movies opening this weekend that mattered. Like, if there had been. If it was like, for instance, Doomsday comes out the same day as Dune.

[A]

Okay, there might be crazy, there might

[D]

be reasons for some chicanery right there.

[C]

There.

[A]

They're gonna. They're gonna. They're gonna move that. There's no way they pull that off.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Who. Who do you think is gonna move?

[A]

I don't see why Doomsday would keep that date. Why don't they just move it forward a week?

[D]

I mean, I. If I'm Dune, like, I'm the one that's moving. Like, I would be doing open to, like, under 100 million and then, like, did 715 million worldwide first for Dune part two. Like, if I'm one of them, Dune's the one that's blinking.

[A]

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[C]

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[D]

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[B]

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[E]

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[A]

We'll see you all [e-mail] Timcast IRL right now. Thanks for hanging out, Sam.