Democrat LAUNCHES IMPEACHMENT Against Trump Citing Deportation, Abrego Garcia Case w/ Courtney Knill

Summary

Timcast IRL: Democrat Launches Impeachment Against Trump Citing Deportation and Abrego Garcia Case

Podcast Information:

• Title: Timcast IRL
• Host/Author: Timcast Media (Host: Tim Pool)
• Description: Timcast IRL, hosted by Tim Pool, delivers hard-hitting news and analysis on politics, culture, and current events. The show features a range of guests and tackles topics like government overreach, tech censorship, and political division from an independent perspective, offering uncensored discussions and sharp insights into today’s most controversial issues.
• Episode: Democrat LAUNCHES IMPEACHMENT Against Trump Citing Deportation, Abrego Garcia Case w/ Courtney Knill
• Release Date: April 29, 2025

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Introduction to Impeachment Claims (00:58 - 04:30)

Tim Pool opens the episode by addressing the ongoing attempts by Democrats to impeach former President Donald Trump. He states, "Donald Trump is facing impeachment again... Two of them actually went through. He got impeached twice in his first term." Pool characterizes the latest impeachment attempt led by Congressman Shree Thanedar as a "PR grab" and a "nonsense move," asserting that Democrats intend to make the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia their central grievance. Pool emphasizes, "Democrats want to make sure that this is the hill they fight for and die on."

Detailed Breakdown of Impeachment Articles (04:30 - 08:50)

Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, joins the discussion, identifying the impeachment articles as "Obstruction of Justice and Abuse of Executive Power." Pool enumerates seven articles presented by Thanedar, including:

1. Denying Due Process: Trump defied court orders regarding deportations.
2. Taking Away Congress's Power: Trump dismantled agencies and froze funds.
3. Abuse of Trade Powers: Imposed damaging tariffs and military threats.
4. First Amendment Violations: Retaliated against journalists and critics.
5. Creation of an Unlawful Office: (Details unspecified in transcript)
6. Bribery and Corruption: Solicited payments from foreign governments.
7. Tyrannical Overreach: Attempting to consolidate unchecked presidential power.

Phil comments, “They’re trying to impeach Donald Trump again,” underscoring the repetitive nature of these attempts and their limited tangible impact due to a predominantly Republican-controlled Congress.

Guest Spotlight: Courtney Nil and Local Politics (04:30 - 09:36)

Courtney Nil, a candidate for the Charlestown City Council in Jefferson County, West Virginia, appears on the show. She discusses her campaign challenges, including Facebook shutting down her campaign page for allegedly "impersonating herself." Nil explains, “I cannot be on Facebook... I want to offer a different solution,” highlighting the hurdles conservatives face in local elections.

Nil emphasizes the importance of local elections, stating, “We need new ideas, new fresh perspectives... I want to represent even the Democrats that are in my district.” Tim compliments her for running in a predominantly red state where the city council is Democrat-controlled, attributing this to low conservative voter turnout.

Media Critique and Narrative Control (09:36 - 24:45)

The discussion shifts to a critical analysis of mainstream media's portrayal of Trump's actions versus Democratic misconduct. Pool asserts, “Anytime they like, Trump is doing something illegal, I'll be like, but it is heroic because that's the argument they're making.” He criticizes media outlets like Fox News and The New York Times for hyping Democratic actions while downplaying or defending illegal activities when committed by Democrats.

Phil Labonte echoes these sentiments, stating, “The media missed that Joe Biden was bad. Anybody that paid attention to Joe Biden.” The group debates the integrity of media narratives, with Pool arguing that Democrats manipulate information to maintain power, while Republicans fail to enact impactful policies themselves.

Immigration Policies and Due Process (25:14 - 54:44)

A significant portion of the episode delves into immigration policies, focusing on the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an MS-13 gang member deported by Trump. Tim Pool explains the legal framework, referencing Article 2, Section 9 of the Constitution: “The President has the authority to suspend habeas corpus during an invasion or rebellion.” He clarifies that expedited removal for illegal immigrants does not equate to denying due process, contrary to Democratic narratives.

Ian Crossland adds, “If the Trump administration wants to get anywhere near their goals of these mass, mass deportations, they need to be absolutely relentless,” advocating for stringent immigration enforcement to prevent recidivism among deported individuals.

Courtney Nil shares her firsthand experience as a victim advocate, advocating for swift deportation of criminals to ensure they cannot re-enter and commit further crimes: “We need to make sure that they actually happen [in their home country].”

Media Manipulation and Image Cropping (54:44 - 84:31)

The hosts criticize media practices, including image manipulation and misinformation. Tim Pool highlights an incident where MSNBC censored images of arrested immigrants on the White House lawn without providing context, suggesting a deliberate attempt to obscure criminal backgrounds. He states, “Donald Trump was speaking... these people are smarmy, evil pieces of garbage.”

The conversation also touches on the New York Times article titled "Don't Go Down the Rabbit Hole," published in February 2021, which controversially advised against critical thinking as a defense against misinformation. Pool sarcastically remarks, “This is the New York Times in 2021 telling people not to think critically.”

Calls for Civil Unrest and Democratic Rhetoric (84:31 - 124:02)

The episode explores Democratic rhetoric encouraging mass protests and uprisings against Republicans. Tim Pool references Illinois Governor JB Pritzker’s call for “mass uprisings” and criticizes such statements as inciting violence: “How can you do that and have any integrity at all?”

Phil Labonte warns that rising calls for civil unrest could lead to increased violence and societal instability, while Courtney Nil urges constituents to focus on practical governance rather than polarizing rhetoric.

Local Election Challenges and Facebook Censorship (124:02 - 86:48)

Courtney Nil discusses her campaign struggles due to Facebook page shutdowns, alleging that social media platforms are biased against conservative candidates. She recounts, “They said I broke community guidelines and that I was impersonating Courtney Nil,” emphasizing the systemic barriers conservatives face in gaining visibility.

Tim Pool suggests that such actions are part of a broader effort to suppress local conservative movements, thereby ensuring Democratic dominance in city councils across red states.

Audience Interaction and Final Thoughts (86:48 - End)

The episode concludes with audience interactions, highlighting viewers' concerns about media bias, immigration policies, and political integrity. Courtney Nil shares her commitment to improving local governance and combating misinformation, while Tim Pool reiterates the dangers of media manipulation and unchecked Democratic power.

Tim Pool underscores the importance of local elections, stating, “We need more people in more city councils, in more local offices,” advocating for grassroots political engagement to counteract national-level polarization.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Pool (00:58): “Democrats want to make sure that this is the hill they fight for and die on.”
• Phil Labonte (07:05): “Yo, that is definitely one. Obstruction of justice and abuse of executive power.”
• Courtney Nil (04:30): “I just want to be able to use the leverage that I have to win my campaign opponent.”
• Tim Pool (25:14): “There are no trials for illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants who cross people who cross the border illegally. They have what's called expedited removal.”

Conclusion: In this episode of Timcast IRL, Tim Pool and his guests critically examine the Democratic Party's renewed efforts to impeach Donald Trump, framing it as a strategic maneuver to maintain power through relentless political posturing and media manipulation. The discussion extends to the challenges faced by conservative candidates in local elections, the integrity of immigration policies, and the pervasive influence of biased media narratives. Courtney Nil’s firsthand experiences highlight the systemic obstacles conservatives encounter, while the hosts collectively advocate for informed political engagement and skepticism towards mainstream media portrayals.

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Transcript

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[Tim Pool]

18/Tnc supply Donald Trump is facing impeachment again. I think it's like the seventh or eighth time someone's tried to file impeachment against him. Two of them actually went through. He got impeached twice in his first term. But now we have Sri Thanadar who is saying that Donald Trump is violating the Constitution over his deportation without due process, among other issues. So I will say, eh, it's a, it's a PR grab, It's a nonsense move. He knows it won't go anywhere, but we're gonna cover it anyway because it's what Democrats want to happen. And the core of the story is once again Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a story that won't go away despite the fact that all the facts have been laid out and they don't want to let it go. Democrats want to make sure that this is the hill they fight for and die on. But that's the way they're going to play it. We've got another story from the from Fox News, the New York Times. One of their columnists argued that the judge in Wisconsin who broke the law, what she, what she had done may have been illegal, but it was heroic. And so that's my response from now on. Literally anytime they're like, Trump is doing something illegal, I'll be like, but it is heroic because that's the argument they're making. So fine and Then we got, oh, boy, the White House put a bunch of pictures on the lawn of all of the Maryland men who have been deported. Maryland met, of course, being code word for criminal, illegal alien rapists and murderers. And, you know, you get the point. But we got another story where they're saying a Detroit woman has been deported by Trump. Guess where she's from? Guatemala. So we'll get into all that. Before we do, we got a great sponsor, my friends. It's American Financing. With everything that's happening in the economy, feels like we're walking on shaky ground. Prices are stuck at really high levels. Seems like nothing is affordable anymore. It's no wonder many are relying on credit cards to cover the gaps. Credit card debt is skyrocketing and it's leaving a lot of people stressed out. But if you're a homeowner, you don't have to face this uncertainty alone. My friends at American Financing can help you take control. They can help you access the equity in your home to help you pay down that high interest credit card debt, giving you peace of mind and real savings. On average, people just like you are saving $800 a month. Plus they may even close your loan in as little as 10 days. Don't the chaos of the economy get the best of you? Call American Financing now. It costs you nothing to get started and you may delay two mortgage payments. Give you a cushion and give you, giving you a cushion at this uncertain time. You can call 866-890-7811. That's 866-890-7819 or visit American financing.net Tim. Also buy some Casper coffee. We got all the good flavors. We've got two weeks till Christmas. That's a gingerbread flavor. Alex Stein's prime time grind, two times caffeine, ladies and gentlemen, is just about to run out of stock. It is all. There's only about a hundred left and we are not gonna bring it back. That's right. Alex Stein primetime grind is being discontinued. So if you want to get a bag of this crazy man's coffee while you can, I believe we have, we have 186. I could be wrong. So we have 186, I think is the number they're telling me. But fear not, because we do intend to have another Alex Stein blend replacing this one. But if you want to get the crazy man's coffee, now's your chance to get it. Don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Courtney Nil.

[Courtney Nil]

Thanks so much for having me on. So my name is Courtney Nil. I'm a candidate for local office. I'm running for Charlestown City Council in Jefferson County, West Virginia. I also do political and health commentary over on X that was thankfully purchased by Mr. Elon Musk.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. And it's really fascinating because I've complained for a while now about how Charlestown, West Virginia is in a. It's a red state. It's the second reddest state. But the city council is all Democrat.

[Courtney Nil]

It is.

[Tim Pool]

And the question has been why? And it's because conservatives don't go out and vote. So we're trying to change that. But it's great to have you, so it should be fun and we'll hear all about this. Additionally, Facebook, shut down your campaign. Shut down your personal profile and your campaign, which is insane.

[Elad Eliyahu]

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[Courtney Nil]

I just found out today that my appeal has been denied, that I am impersonating myself. Apparently, I've broken community guidelines and I cannot be on Facebook.

[Tim Pool]

This is crazy. Yeah. Yep, yep. We'll talk about that. So thanks for hanging out. Should be fun. Elad's hanging out.

[Ian Crossland]

Good evening, everybody. I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Tim Cast. Excited to get into it tonight. Phil, how's it going?

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the story from the Post Millennial Breaking Dem rep files 7 Articles of impeachment against President Trump. And we have the video here posted on Post Millennial from Benny Johnson, who posted it from Eric Daugherty, who he get it from? Um, we'll just play the clip, actually. We'll. We'll play the clip for you. I. I think it's important that you hear from Sri himself. This is Congressman Shree Thanedar. Donald Trump has already done real damage to our democracy. But defying a unanimous Supreme Court ruling, that has to be the final straw. It's time we impeach Donald J. Trump. The court said the wrongfully deported Kilmer Garcia must be allowed to return and receive due process. Trump ignored it. He ignored the Constitution. He ignored the very checks and balances that keep our democracy intact. This isn't an isolated incident. It's part of a dangerous, deliberate pattern. That's why today I introduced a resolution to impeach Donald J. Trump, outlining seven articles of impeachment they zoomed in as he was saying this. I think he told them to do that.

[Phil Labonte]

Yo, that is definitely one. Obstruction of justice and abuse of executive power.

[Tim Pool]

From denying due process to unlawful deportations, Trump defied court orders. All right, we can go through this more quickly, though. Article two, taking away Congress's power of the purse. Trump dismantled agencies and froze funds. Article three, abuse of trade powers and international aggression. He imposed damaging tariffs and threatened military invasions of our allies. Article 4, violation of the First Amendment rights. He retaliated against journalist attorneys and critics for excising their right to free speech. Article five, creation of an unlawful office in doge. Article six, bribery and corruption. He has dismissed criminal cases and solicited payments from foreign governments and coerced legal settlement for personal and political gain. Article seven, tyrannical overreach. Finally, and most importantly, he's attempting to consolidate unchecked power and erode the constitutional limits of the presidency. In this country, we have presidents, not kings. That's not just misconduct. It's impeachable misconduct. This isn't leadership. It's tyranny. Okay, well, he's wrong about all those things, but sure, fine. I will just add something else, something that is constitutional. That was brought up by DC Drano at the White House press briefing. Under the Constitution, I believe it's Article 2, Section 9. The President has the authority to suspend habeas corpus during an invasion or rebellion. And the question was asked is, considering Trump has declared an invasion, will he actively suspend habeas corpus for illegal immigrants? Now, the White House response, of course, was that they don't see this as happening anytime soon. But considering such a shockingly powerful move is available to the President, and he's not gone anywhere near that, this impeachment seems like shree just wanted to make sure people knew his name because we didn't before.

[Phil Labonte]

First of all, that man is that is tattoo from Fantasy island. But grown up, if you know the character that I'm talking about. It is undeniable. It's no surprise that. That they're trying to impeach Donald Trump. But the one thing that kind of, you know, has or this kind of sheds light on is the Republicans refuse to do things that are going to actually be. Have impact, and the Democrats have no such compunction. The. I mean, me and Ian and myself got into it a couple weeks ago about whether or not the Democrats would try to impeach Donald Trump again. And Ian had a problem with even articulating it, and here we are.

[Tim Pool]

You know, he's going to say it's unfalsifiable. He's going to say it happened because you. Yeah, well, manifested it.

[Phil Labonte]

Maybe this isn't, this is entirely predictable. It is, but it's, it speaks to the, the degradation of our political process here in the US the, the fact that, you know, he's, he's doing, he hasn't done anything that's breaking the law. He, he's only doing things that Democrats dislike. He's dealing.

[Tim Pool]

Democrats are violating the Constitution. Trump is not, yeah, 100%.

[Phil Labonte]

And they're still trying to use whatever method they can to take whatever power the President has away. This is not going to change. And again, it brings back, it brings up the, the, the phrase that we say here which is like, where's the off ramp? When does this stuff stop?

[Ian Crossland]

So this Representative sri Thane Thanedar, he's exclusive.

[Phil Labonte]

It's fine.

[Ian Crossland]

He's exclusively posturing. Here is what's going on. Democrats, progressives believe that he is too much of a centrist for his district. And right now he's trying to posture himself as an anti Trump Democrat so he won't get primaried or that his opponents won't get support for being primaried. So the Justice Democrats, the same group that helped get AOC elected, actually put out their first endorsement right now of Representative former representative Donovan McKinney who's actually running a primary against Sri and he just announced it earlier today. So Sri here is trying to posture as more progressive and kind of fend off these leftists kind of nipping at his coattail. So I don't think he actually expects this to go anywhere, but he wants to look as though he wants to show the base that he is so called fighting against Trump. Whether or not that goes anywhere doesn't mean anything because what some Democrats want to see is a so called fight. So that's what he's scared of, his upcoming primary challenge from the Justice Democrats.

[Courtney Nil]

Well, and I have to think that the general public is getting tired of keeping hearing about how Trump is getting impeached again. I mean, I think there for a little while it's like, oh, impeachment, okay, well, it's just another week. Another week. Apparently Trump is the only federal official to be impeached twice. But I mean, how many attempts have they had? How many times have we heard the media talk about that? I feel like it has to be Michael.

[Ian Crossland]

If I'm a Democratic upstart though, I am trying to impeach Donald Trump or at least vocally saying so, because I think that's what the base wants, not that that's what the majority of Americans want, but I think the Democrats crowds wants to see at least some posturing, some sort of fight against Trump. And then the Democrats who aren't doing that will be primaried as we're seeing from like the Justice Democrats. And you're hearing from people like David Hogg.

[Phil Labonte]

So it's your sense that this is, this is actually popular with the base. Now I understand the, the political operatives and the people that are in, you know, that are politically motivated. Yes, but the average Democrat, is this what they want as well? Because I, I assume the average Democrat does want to see actual governance.

[Ian Crossland]

The average Democrat, yes, but the basic party who's most encouraged and most willing to contribute to a campaign, who would want to work on a campaign. You want to see somebody who's fighting for you. Right. You want the youth vote. That's sort of the direction I think we're going to. So yeah, if you want to be an upstart right now, I think you're definitely trying to posture like that.

[Tim Pool]

There's no average Democrat. It doesn't exist. They, when they did that poll, I think it was, there were a couple different ones that showed that Democrat approval is at like 26%. And that's not congressional approval. The congressional approval is always low. It's only 23. They, they, they ask people who the front runner was, who was the leader of the party. Number one was AOC with 10%. So there's no average. It is, it is just a spattering of random mixtures of left to liberal nonsense. So the reason why this guy Shri is doing this, he's not going to get an article of impeachment through a Congress that's majority republic even by two votes. He's doing it because he knows whoever wins the attention can be the leader of the party. And he's taking an opportunity to try and build up his profile knowing that ain't no Democrats stepping up right now to be the leader of the party. You got JB Pritzker coming out calling for mass uprisings, protests and riots in New York too. Yeah. At the same time they're saying that he wants to run in 2028. They've got no leadership. Pritzker is not a leader. The best they can muster up. Look, this guy's, he's a C list. He's a C lister, okay? No, you need the X factor to be president. You need to be a Donald Trump. Joe Biden didn't have it either. But the media won. That campaign from Barack Obama had it, George W. Bush had it, Clinton definitely had it. This guy, the aoc, none of these people actually have it. Now there's actually speculation that AOC wants to run for president and that's the best they have to offer. So I don't know what to say. The Democrats have nothing right now. I can't see how they would, how they're going to be able to manifest any kind of party cohesion in the next 10 years.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, well, I don't know about the next. I don't know. I don't know if it's going to take that long. I think that you could see some kind of coalescing around a candidate if the Republicans don't deliver. Again, we talked about this a couple times. If Donald Trump over the weekend, I guess his numbers came out and they're kind of tanking and if that becomes the trend broadly and he can't deliver for the American people or we go into some kind of actual economic recession because there's a lot of people that are saying that the, the consequences of the, the tariffs haven't actually started to really filter through the economy. If, if those things really sour the American people on Donald Trump, I don't, I don't see any, I don't see any way for conservatives or Republicans to kind of wrestle that back. And I do think that there are people that could, in the Democrat Party that could capitalize on it.

[Ian Crossland]

The progressives in the Democrat Party, I think are going to capitalize on this and I think we're going to see a lot of the so called centrist Democrats be knocked off by some progressives challenging the so called moderates who have been there for a couple of decades and aren't sufficiently progressive to what the base wants, which is the worst result.

[Phil Labonte]

Because if you have the progressives actually start to get real traction and get more power, that's going to have real serious negative results for the American.

[Ian Crossland]

Unless you think AOC is just totally unelectable on, you know, not at all. Not so I do kind of just help the Republican get in would be kind of the idea some candidates try to set up like the more extreme candidate on the other side. Like I think this is what Ossoff's trying to do in Georgia right now with Marjorie.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think that's the case at all. I think that if you actually have young people that are, because they're right now know you talk about how Gen Z's really Kind of like bummed out about the way our political system works. And there's a lot of energy behind, you know, people that say things like, oh, Luigi Mangione actually had a. Had a good idea, or he's the, you know, that's the kind of Democrat we need. That's kind of the kind of left that we need. If those people become ascendant and you get more. More of those people running on that kind of policy, it only. It will only be bad for America because those people, when they don't get very quick results in government, which our government is designed to not give quick results, you're only going to end up with people saying, well, then the government, the system doesn't work. Time to burn down, and you'll see more violence.

[Courtney Nil]

Right. Well, as the Gen Z at the table, it's sad that this is what we're dealing with, is that we have these politicians. They don't seem to be getting anything done. They just want to insult one another. You know, this guy, he just wants to, you know, have his name, you know, be known, be heard. He's not trying to get anything done. If you actually have a problem with what Trump is doing, you know, offer a different solution, you know, actually do something, you know, within your legislature. Use your actual seat for a reason. Don't just complain and be like, oh, we're going to impeach Trump again.

[Tim Pool]

I think. I think that's what the Democratic Party is right now, though. The Republican Party's got debates over solutions, debates over who should be in charge. You've got the. I remember during the. The. The primary cycle, the Fierce, you know, DeSantis versus Trump battle, and it was brutal. The DeSantis people who were attacking the Trump and the Trump people attacking the desantis people, it was merciless. On the Democrat side, they don't even know what they're fighting for unless Trump is there. So if Desantis ended up winning, what would they have had? They were arguing when. When DeSantis was briefly the front runner, the news article started shifting to, Desantis is actually worse than Trump. And then as soon as Trump came back, they were like, let's forget about that guy and go back to Trump. The only thing they have is that Democrat good, Republican bad. Let's jump to this next story, though, which proves it from Fox News New York Times columnist calls arrested judges civil disobedience of protecting illegal migrants something heroic. Okay, let's just. Let's just try this again. I'm gonna play the clip for you, and you can hear the stupidity for yourself.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, obviously, they're trying to send a.

[Tim Pool]

Note of intimidation not only to her.

[Phil Labonte]

But to all judges and maybe to all Americans.

[Tim Pool]

But I don't yet know the specific details of this case, whether she escorted the guy out the jury door or whether she's let him. So that's all. Mark.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't want to comment on this.

[Tim Pool]

Specific case, but especially on the issue of immigration. There are a lot of people who are appalled by what the administration is.

[Phil Labonte]

Doing, and there will be times for civil disobedience. And to me, if she.

[Tim Pool]

Let's say she did escort this guy out the door, if federal enforcement agencies come to your courtroom and you help a guy escape, that is two things. One, it strikes me as maybe something illegal, but it also strikes me as something heroic. And in times of trouble, then people are sometimes called to do civil disobedience. I'll take it, ladies and gentlemen. I will take it. Trump, unleash the illegal. That's heroic. That's. This is the stupidest Trump has done nothing illegal. Okay. At worst, their argument is that Trump is failing to facilitate the return to the United States an illegal immigrant. Ms. 13 gang member. It wasn't illegal. It's called error. Right. So the difference. There was an administrative error in the deportation of Rigo Garcia. However, the error was that he didn't get a USCIS interview, which could be done at any moment, but they're just not doing it. The Supreme Court ruled that they must facilitate his return. But what that means is if he wants to return, they. They will provide him the means to do so. Because the Supreme Court also said that no one can direct the president to engage in foreign policy, which is why the articles impeachment from the previous segment make literally no sense. But if they're gonna argue now that a judge in Wisconsin who allowed a man to escape, who. Okay, let me tell you the story. There's a guy in Wisconsin. He's an illegal immigrant. He mercilessly beats a guy 40 times, striking him in the face and then strangling him. He had a court appearance over this. The victims were there to get justice. When the judge found out ICE had arrived to arrest this guy, she shuffled him out a private door used only for employees and jurors to help him escape. And the feds had a warrant for his arrest, and they were in a public place for that. She has been arrested. And the New York Times, David Brooks has the gall to say, legal but heroic, baby, if that's the Game you want to play? I say Trump, unleash the illegal. Because they just opened the door, to be fair, quite literally. Wouldn't matter if Donald Trump saved a bag of puppies. Literally a burlap sack full of puppies for some reason is in a burning building. They would still claim he did something wrong. So even when Trump is abiding by the Constitution, and he is, they claim he's not. And when they violate the Constitution and break the law, they claim it's illegal but heroic. We've got mostly peace, mostly fiery but peaceful protests, illegal but heroic actions. And Trump is the bad guy.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, they're. They're lawless. This is, this is. This is what we've been saying around this, this table for a while, is they will side with the criminals every time if it's, you know, if it. If it is against Trump.

[Tim Pool]

I just don't get why they're so evil. I mean, I mean this sincerely, Tim.

[Ian Crossland]

In these people's head, they think they are harboring Anne Frank, protecting these illegals from the Nazi Trump. I believe that's what they think in their head.

[Tim Pool]

No, I disagree. Because they hate Jews.

[Ian Crossland]

No, but they. But they still believe the Holocaust was bad. They. They hate our current iteration of Jews, but still would believe the Holocaust was bad. And. No, I do believe in my heart of hearts, that's what these people think. Like this judge who was harboring the illegal immigrant, like, she thought she was being heroic. She didn't think she's a village. She thought she was doing, like that. Trump is literally a Nazi, and she's.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but illegals. And Frank, this guy was charged with mercilessly beating a man by bashing him in the face 40 times and then strangling him. That's what Fox News was reporting about it. And then she. The victims were there, and she's like, you get out of here.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to give advice to everybody. If you're ever referencing a beating, you always have to add the word merciless. Yeah, it just, it strikes, you know.

[Phil Labonte]

Really gets the point across.

[Tim Pool]

Like, if you were going to say someone beat a child, you have to say, they mercilessly beat a child.

[Ian Crossland]

Your movements, too, also. Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you gotta just. Boom. Amazing. So in this regard, I've been talking about Trump using wartime, like being a wartime president. I did not make this up. Will Chamberlain was talking about this years ago. What it means is you are in a state of crisis or conflict. It does not mean active war, like bombs are dropping. What it means is be A president who uses his authority to uphold the rule of law and protect your country. And don't be this wishy washy, we don't want to do these things because Democrats will do it too. The point is they're already doing it. Democrats are outright saying right now they are doing illegal things and they're, they viewed her as heroic. That's the narrative.

[Ian Crossland]

I think the posturing is also very ridiculous because Democrats and progressives have been posturing as though, like, Trump doesn't like this person, this judge's decisions, and that's why he arrested them, the judge. But that's not why. It's because the judge was breaking the law. And nobody in this country is above the law. And actually in today's Press briefing at 8:30am The Caroline Levitt held, a journalist asked salty. I was a little bit salty. It was also like post their ball weekend. But somebody asked her whether more judges or higher judges, higher up would be considered for arrest. And then she said she wouldn't answer. Hypotheticals. But I was just thinking to myself, anybody can be arrested if they break the law. It doesn't matter what judge you are. Donald Trump was famously arrested and then he had a mugshot taken. So clearly nobody is above the law in our country. So that's why I think the posturing on trying to say he's coming after the judges. Judges who break laws need to be gone after.

[Phil Labonte]

Doesn't matter. Yeah. The fact that they're trying to distract from the fact of the matter is the left is trying to distract from the reality of the situation, which is that the judge broke the law. The narrative that you hear from the left is, oh, he's going after judges, going after judges as if they had not broken the law. It's totally normal to go after a judge that has broken the law.

[Ian Crossland]

The, anybody who breaks the law.

[Phil Labonte]

And yes, but, but the, the idea, the idea that judges are somehow above the law or sacrosanct or can't, you know, their, their, their dig, you know, their honor would never be impugned. You know, you can't imagine that a judge would ever do something illegal. Well, of course they would. They're human beings. But this deification that the left is doing is all just about performing a function, which is to fool the viewer, the American people, into thinking that Donald Trump is doing something that he's not. And this is the MO of the left for the past 10 years. Go ahead.

[Courtney Nil]

And so nobody should be above the law. But that's not what we've seen in practice, we've seen where people pick and choose. If to me, if there is a law on the books, we should be following it. If you don't like the law, change the law. That, that's what, why we have a government that's supposed to be for the people, by the people is that if there's laws that we think, you know, should be changed, we'll just go in and change them rather than decide, oh well, we're not enforcing that. Oh well, we're not going to prosecute this person.

[Phil Labonte]

This is, this isn't, this is all about narrative building and about, you know, deceiving the American people. You know, we, you mentioned the whole, what they called it, nerd ball or whatever the, the White House correspondents dinner that they had and oh, those, those awful. Are you going to talk about it?

[Ian Crossland]

I did. No parties, by the way. I, I feel like it's strange too. I was invited to a party, but I thought it was weird to be like rubbing backs with like, even Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Just felt wrong. Like I'm supposed to be covering you, not like slapping backs, drinking beers.

[Phil Labonte]

Fair enough. But the point is if you listen to a lot of the, the speeches that were, that were being made, they were, they were trying to cover for themselves all weekend. They were saying, oh well, you know, we missed this. We missed Biden's no decline. We, we, we, we have to do better. They don't trust us because we didn't see this. And that's, that is a blatant lie. They were a party of, they were party to the deception. The, they intentionally did not report these things. It wasn't about, oh, we, this slipped by us. You know, they were the COVID up.

[Tim Pool]

And now they're trying to cover up again.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Courtney Nil]

And the reason why they can get away with this narrative thing is because people have such short attention spans. They'll be scrolling along on their phone, they'll read the headline and be like, oh well, this news agency said it, so it must be true. And then they move on and they scroll past it and just believe it.

[Phil Labonte]

Do you believe that people that most people that. Do you believe most people believe it. Now granted, I may be it maybe because I'm in a bubble, but I feel like people don't believe that. I believe what I believe that the media missed that Joe Biden was bad. Anybody that paid attention to Joe Biden.

[Tim Pool]

They do believe that.

[Phil Labonte]

Do you think that even people that call attention. I'm talking about people that act. I'm not Talking about the people that are, that are.

[Tim Pool]

I understand. Like, the average person does believe the media made a mistake. They like, bro, I'm going to say it again. Hassan Piker did not know that Abrego Garcia was from El Salvador. Like, I really want to drive this home because the dude's so influential when I went to the White House, but he's so dumb.

[Phil Labonte]

And that's part of the thing.

[Tim Pool]

That's my point. That's who they're. That's where they're getting information from. So look, I will give some sympathy to Hasan. He reads the. He reads an article and it says a Maryland man was deported. And the first thing he thinks is some working class guy from Maryland was snatched up on accident and sent to El Salvador to go to prison. When in reality it is a gang member from El Salvador who was arrested under suspicion of human trafficking in the past, who had been ordered to deport twice, who was adjudicated by two different judicial panel. I'm sorry, exact immigration judge panels. First a judge, then a panel as being a member of Ms. 13. And the only error was that he was supposed to get a USCIS interview before being deported. That is proper protocol. I go to the White House, I bring up the Maryland man hoax. Hassan Piker's response was, he's not from Maryland, boy. He's from D.C. like, is that what he's trying to say? Like, no, dude, he's not from Maryland. And then he tried to say face after the fact, but he really did not know. So you think that as dumb as you think Hassan Piker is, Phil, that the average person watching him believes the media intentionally covered up Joe Biden.

[Phil Labonte]

So when I, when I say the average person, I'm not thinking about the people that are watching left leaning streamers. I'm talking about the people that consume maybe an hour of news. You know, again, when I'm talking about.

[Tim Pool]

Normies, I genuinely think normies were probably like, wow, how'd the media miss that one?

[Phil Labonte]

I. Because I. Well, that I think that Norman, he.

[Courtney Nil]

Declined while he was in office and that it got worse over time.

[Tim Pool]

Real bad. It was a downward spiral of decay.

[Phil Labonte]

That's the thing. I feel like most people because, like, when I talk to the guys that were like some of the guys that were in.

[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

Supply the band right? They knew Joe Biden wasn't there, and they're not particularly politically active, but when they watched him, they're like, this guy's.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, it was only.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, okay, we got to do it. We. I did not have this planned, but I absolutely got to pull up this story. This is from last week. Have you guys seen this? I saw the Joe Biden Photoshop himself into an Easter family photo. Okay. There's no question. This image that they posted, Joe Biden shared this photo yesterday, Easter Monday. But not everyone is convinced he was really there. I don't know if you saw this. Okay, Joe ain't there. I'm sorry, that is not a real photograph, right?

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, would he be sitting that?

[Tim Pool]

I. I will tell you, there's no way Joe Biden is there. Where are his legs? How is he? So for those that are just listening, there's this photo of everybody and they're wearing casual Easter Monday clothing. Joe's in a blue suit, squinting in the back. But he's appear. Appears to be standing up. Like, yo, where's his arm going? Like, come on. Everybody sitting down has their arms on their knees. 100 of these people, but Joe Biden in the back, his arms are straight down his. At his sides. He's not. There's no way he's standing up because these people in front are sitting down. Look at the side. Where is he?

[Courtney Nil]

And as someone who does a lot of Photoshop, it doesn't even look that good when you look at the lighting on people's faces. It's not quite working for what they have going on here. The shadows would fall differently.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh yeah.

[Courtney Nil]

It's like look at. Look at all the faces. And then look at his. Why do all of them look so much different than his? And it looks like the photo's being taken from a different angle versus we should be looking up at him. And that's not the position of that photo.

[Tim Pool]

That's a good point. I mean, he's like, leaning down with his arm. He's like, leaning down. He's sitting like this. His arms, this side.

[Courtney Nil]

People aren't paying attention. They'll just scroll past it. They scroll past all the AI stuff every day, and they're like, oh, look at that. That looks. That's a cute dog that's playing. It's like, no, grandma, that's AI. But so many.

[Ian Crossland]

Look at this.

[Tim Pool]

Look. There's like four fingers popping up behind this dude's neck. Like, where's his arm? He's like this. Joe Biden's sitting like this. His arm goes straight down to the side. But then what's he doing?

[Phil Labonte]

I. I find it difficult to imagine him sitting down like that. He's not exactly. It would take. You know, he definitely would need help getting up. He's not gonna. You know, so I.

[Tim Pool]

His weird clothes. Yeah. So weird. This.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, look, weird.

[Tim Pool]

I get it. People I talk to, people I have family members, and they're like, we don't care about Joe Biden anymore. He's not the president. And I'm like, fair point. The only thing to consider is that if he auto penned those pardons, then they may be. There's an argument, a court challenge. They may be void because auto pen ain't for pardons. I don't think auto pen is for anything, but this right here is funny. Okay, he's not in office anymore. Why did they. Why did they do this? I don't get it.

[Phil Labonte]

I have no idea.

[Tim Pool]

Anyway, look, the point is, this is emblematic of the entire Biden presidency. It was fake. These. There's. There's no way that's a real photo. I mean, I suppose someone could easily just find this clip to figure out where it came from. Usually they do. Do you guys remember when they did, by the way? They found where I came from.

[Ian Crossland]

I saw the picture of where it came from.

[Phil Labonte]

That's hilarious.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe I can find in another.

[Ian Crossland]

He was like, in another country walking. He was in the same outfit.

[Courtney Nil]

Well, really, that's what the Democrats like to do. It's smoke and mirrors. You can make it look like. And it wasn't until that debate that that's where I. At least the leftists that I knew that's when they really started saying something. They're like, whoa. They're like, this is a problem. And to be honest, I even feel a little bit bad for the Democrats that they decided to just slide Kamala Harris in there and they never even had a chance to have a primary or anything, because they didn't. I don't think Kamala Harris would have been the pick because she did not do well the first time she ran for president. And I think just since she was vp, they're like, oh, well, we'll put her in. And that's not really even fair to the democratic process.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I didn't even notice the.

[Tim Pool]

Cat was there at first. You see the cat?

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, where?

[Tim Pool]

There's a cat right there.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, above that. Lady said.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So people are pointing out. I looked it up real quick. The. The photo of Biden in the suit. It's. It's the suit he wore relatively often as president. Yeah, I doubt he's wearing the same suit now, but again, this is what the. The Democratic Party is. Do you guys remember when Kate Middleton had that photoshopped image?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Because she. Because of her cancer and hiding from something like that.

[Tim Pool]

And then people found the photo came from the COVID of a magazine or something. Right. So look, can I just point out. Was it. FDR had polio and they covered that up. So what do you think's going out with Joe Biden? They're going to cover it up. Of course they're going to cover it up. They're going to lie about everything. The question then becomes who was actually doing all of these things? Because we know it wasn't him.

[Phil Labonte]

No, I, I mean, I assume that it was. Would be mostly his chief of staff, whoever that was actually doing the day to day, but it would. The rest of, like, the decisions were made by committee. You know, they, like the, The. I imagine his, his advisors all got together and they discussed this is what we should do, et cetera, et cetera. And, and it was not an individual person, which is a terrible, terrible thing, because then you can't actually lay the blame on one person. That's one of the. That's why it's important to have an executive. So that way if things go wrong, you can say it's your effing fault. You know, who was it that had the, the, the sign on his desk that said the buck stops here? Was it. It wasn't Truman. I think it was Truman. So. And, you know, and the point of that was you.

[Tim Pool]

You.

[Phil Labonte]

He's the guy that's ultimately responsible, and that's what the President's supposed to be, you know, and, and when you have a committee or, or a group of advisors making the decisions, you. You can actually punish someone for making a bad decision.

[Tim Pool]

And then we saw the White House Correspondents Association. Where was it? Alex Thompson is that.

[Phil Labonte]

It was.

[Tim Pool]

Maxios was like, you know, we. We really missed this one, guys. And we lost the trust of the American people because of it. The headline's going to be a journalist, you know, issues scathing rebuke of the failure of the media to catch the story about Biden's decline. Because they are once again doing the exact same thing. These people are smarmy, evil pieces of garbage. Yeah, this is what they do. They lied to us the whole time. They gaslit the American people at Joe Biden's Health. And then when caught, they're once again gaslighting, saying, wow, how did we miss this one? No, I don't buy it for a second. And so when I go to the White House and I point out you don't have an independent White House Correspondents association, you have one company, the White House Correspondent association might as well be one company with 50 chairs, because they go in, they ask generic and obvious questions that everybody knows the answers to or are meant to go viral to. Just argue with Carolyn Levitt or whoever the press secretary is going to be at the time. And then they all report the exact same things. And you know how they coordinate it? They have group chats called journal lists. They've been doing this since the event of social media. I used to be in one. I was in a couple of them. They, they, they, they. So back when I was working for Vice Infusion, you get an invite from someone on Facebook and they're like, hey, we have a group chat. You join it. And what they don't realize is it may seem innocent at first, but then they. They unify all of their talking points and their worldview solidifies in their own psychotic, schizoid bubble of journalists. Then every single media outlet from small to large, reports the exact same things.

[Ian Crossland]

The White House Correspondents association is not only complicit in covering up for Joe Biden, I think they actually manufactured the COVID up in totality because they had access to covering him. They had pool access. They were the people managing all, all of that. And the White House Correspondents Association, I think at this point might even be beyond reform. And I think we should also anticipate a few of these losers down the Line writing the book of, oh, Joe Biden was obviously senile the whole time. And like, they. They'll have the reports on it, but they just want their, you know, New York Times bestselling books down the line. In a decade or two when they're able to write about what they saw but didn't want to report on, they're going to wait a little bit. Joe Biden passes. They don't want to harm the party as much, but. Oh, yeah, but even more, we're going to see everybody, everybody spill the beans. I think all of them. Again, like, there was a large pool of people who knew the condition of Joe Biden. They manufactured the COVID up here, even. They did such a good job that I actually think they had a lot of other Democrats fooled, frankly.

[Courtney Nil]

And as a conservative, as someone who, you know, didn't want Joe Biden as my president, I still want a competent president. I don't want the Commander in Chief to be a bumbling old man that can't function and can't do his job. I would have much rather of him been competent. That's not the story I want there to be, but that's where we are.

[Tim Pool]

You know, you're probably right, but I am torn a little bit because Joe Biden's evil. And if he was competent and evil, I might be worried about the things he could have accomplished. But then I guess the inverse is he's incompetent evil. So his evil handlers just did it for him either way.

[Courtney Nil]

So incompetent evil, that sounds a lot like the government.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, maybe Joe Biden was just the, the apex of it. He represents government next to government. In the dictionary, you'll find his name.

[Ian Crossland]

And I mean, not to continue harping on the White House Correspondents association, but I just can't stop thinking about, like, the double standards, too. So right now, right, the worst thing that Secretary of Defense Pete Hexth had was the Signal Gate scandal, right? But Secretary Lloyd Austin, this was Joe Biden's Secretary of Defense. He literally went under anesthesia. He was. He wasn't awake. And nobody knew that he wasn't awake. The President didn't know that he went under. So if something were to happen, we didn't have somebody who was the head of the military at that time. The media didn't bother pushing back on this hard enough. Nobody was calling for him to resign. But over scandals like whatever Pete Hexath might get into, they'll immediately call for his resignation. They'll go down the line in the Press briefing room and harp on this. Every single, every single person who gets called on will bring this up. Even Fox News oftentimes in the press briefing rooms. But for when Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin has his scandals, nobody cares. None of Joe Biden's scandals, nobody cares.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it's regard. It doesn't matter if, if any Americans care. The only thing that matters is that the Democrat establishment, which includes the media, refuses to talk about it. So because they refuse to talk about it, the people feel like, well what can we do?

[Ian Crossland]

All of the White House correspondents associations accusations against new media are really just telling on themselves. Everything they accuse us new media people of doing they were doing during the previous administration. And I don't even think the new media people are as biased as people are as the mainstream media and White House Correspondents association association is trying to make them out to be. But the White House Correspondents association is everything that they say the new media is.

[Courtney Nil]

And what a sad state of media that this is. Where we are at in this current time where you have narratives that are being pushed and people aren't just doing independent research because even if you're a Democrat, you're a liberal, you have a complete different view than me. Well please just try to be a good journalist. But that's not.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, they're pushing advocacy journalism every single week. There's a new immigrant fake news immigration story. So Tim, it's funny you're still bringing up the Maryland man hoax because this week's hoax is the two year old American citizen deported hoax where it was an older woman who didn't have who came in this country illegally for decades was being deported and she chose to take her two year old American daughter with her. But they're saying no, they're deporting the two year old American citizen. That's this week's immigration hoax, I believe.

[Tim Pool]

Was it Thomas Jefferson who said a man who reads nothing is better informed than a man who reads the newspaper? Yeah, I could be wrong. I don't know if that was him. Let's jump to the story from the post. Millennial MSNBC censors images of illegal immigrant criminal lawn signs at White House broadcast row. The White House does not provide any information to support their claims that these are criminals who have been arrested. This is how insane these people are. Just show it and say it. Check this clip out as put up about 100 posters of what they say are unauthorized immigrants who have been arrested for violent crimes. You can they put them up on the driveway of the White House, if you look here, that's the West Wing just at the forefront, the Executive Mansion itself to the left. But what's particularly noteworthy about this location is it is right directly behind the positions where TV correspondents do their hits from the White House lawn. So therefore, no matter what network you're on, that includes any msnbc. If you're doing a hit from the White House right now, those pictures will be behind you. The White House doing a briefing in about a half hour about what they're doing here. White House, that is absolutely brilliant. Now, MSNBC blurred them out. Not in that net, by the way, but we do have another. This is the actual video. They say what's particularly not worried about the location is right behind it. In posting the clip on TikTok and Instagram, MSNBC and Morning show blurred the mugshot photos of those arrested. Quote, the White has not provided any information to support their claims. These are criminals who have been arrested. Maria Teresa Kumar urged caution, warning that some past images promoted by officials were found to be altered. She said, our job is always to have our true north, and encouraged others to blur out the photos as well. Me, I just said, look at the photos of all these Maryland men. Maryland man, of course, is the new. Select this photo or this video. All of these guys have been arrested on these charges. So that's it. What's the point they're trying to make? I'll tell you. Donald Trump was speaking, and when he was about to get into that Abrego Garcia was an MS.13 gang member. MSNBC cut away and said, you were just listening to the president, then shut him down. This is why people like Hassan Piker don't know the truth. Then they go on their shows and are absolutely convinced what they're saying is true and that we are the bad people lying. So I'll tell you this. One of my favorite pastimes, of course, is to go on to liberal subreddits. Just go to these liberal podcasters and see what they're saying. Steve Bannon says this all the time as well. He only watches msnbc. He wants to know how they think and what they're thinking. My favorite post from today, I think it was from today, was they were saying that on the right, they're actually arguing that Abrego Garcia is some kind of dangerous criminal and not a working family man who fled a dangerous country to live a better life. Yo, I this is why I think David Pakman is evil. You know, he made a video titled like, I've been warned not to leave the country. He is the. He is wwe. I'll tell you this. Sam Cedar is like, what. What? You know, what's that? What's that below? What's. What's lower than wwe? Like the amateur league.

[Ian Crossland]

What's the Mexican version?

[Courtney Nil]

Street fighting.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no, street fighting's real.

[Phil Labonte]

Lucha libres.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but they're cool.

[Phil Labonte]

There's. What is it? What's the Al.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Phil Labonte]

Valley Wrestling.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. Something.

[Phil Labonte]

Netflix documentary on it. I want to say maybe Apple Valley, but no, that's. That's our waste company.

[Tim Pool]

David. David Pakman is way better at the sophistry than Sam Cedar is. Sam Cedar is just like, low brow, low quality. He's like, I'll just make a video about Tim again. And that's what he does. Like, every third video is about me. And then he gets a bunch of views because that's what his channel is. David Pakman does things where, like, he made a video titled, Trump says he's going to wipe Blue States off the map. Literally never happened. He made a video that's got, like, millions of views titled, I've been warned not to leave the country. Oh, shut up, David. No, you weren't. It's ridiculous. Trump's not gonna deport you. What? But it works because these people believe this stuff. And the problem is, how do you. Here's the challenge. Do you want a comforting lie or a difficult truth? And most people say, give me the comforting lie. That's reality. And so the liberals flock to the guy who's going to say, you are perfect in every way and you can do no wrong. It's everyone else that's a problem, and that's the easy path. And on the right, you've got people fighting with each other over these stories. And, I mean, like I pointed out earlier with Trump DeSantis, the Democrats just scammed everything. They. They had all the Democrat moderates drop out and endorse Joe Biden. They all march in lockstep. On the right, it was vicious. Even the Nikki Haley supporters against the desantis. Then Vivek was trying to play nice with Trump, but then getting attacked and being called fake. On the right, you have people of different political ideologies fighting with each other, but then unifying around the idea that the left is a bunch of crackpot cultists lying to their audiences.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, the. They're obviously lying to their audiences, but that's all they have. You know, if they. They can't. They can't articulate honestly what's going on and just say, we disagree with this. Even though they could make a reasonable argument that says, hey, you know, because of due process, we were concerned with this and because of, you know, whatever.

[Tim Pool]

It's even worked on liberal, it's even worked on conservatives. Conservatives have been convinced that due process didn't happen. They're being convinced that Trump should suspend habeas corpus. They're being convinced that Trump should block trials. Let me break it down for everybody, okay? There are no trials for illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants who cross people who cross the border illegally. They have what's called expedited removal. You don't go to a judge for this. They're saying, you know, Rogan Hailey's asking about suspending habeas corpus because there's got to be habeas hearings. No, no, no, no. It's not the same thing. As an American citizen, all that happens is an immigration official asks the person, do you have, like, are you an American citizen? No. Do you have an ID or anything? You have a. No, there's your habeas. That's it, you're done. And then the due process thing, I have heard from so many conservatives, middle of the road, moderate right, anti establishment, anti Democrats, saying, well, we shouldn't give due process to illegal immigrants. No, no, no, no, no, no. They do get due process. Trump has literally done nothing illegal. What they're doing is in the media, they're gaslighting you into thinking due process for you is the same as it would be for everybody, which has never been reality. If you are an illegal immigrant, you have a hearing. You. I'm sorry, you don't. You have an immigration official who just says, it could be an ICE agent. You are. There you go. We have an administrative warrant. Goodbye, deportation. Then negotiate with your home country. There's no judges, there's no juries, there's no trials. It is in, out.

[Ian Crossland]

If the Trump administration wants to get anywhere near their goals of these mass, mass deportations, they need to be absolutely relentless. Relentless and cannot give up to any of these fake news immigration story narratives. As soon as some of these start to pick up, hold, and they try to have due process and review all of each individual illegal immigrant we try to deport, we will get nowhere. There were 20 million some odd illegal immigrants in our country right now. And if anything, I don't believe the administration goes far enough. I don't. I think if we really want people to self deport in mass numbers, we are going to need to hold people who employ illegal immigrants knowingly accountable because there's still a whole underclass of people here who are working illegally and we're going after the criminals right now right on Pebble Lane in the White House. That's what they were showing people, criminals. But, but I mean, the fact of the matter is most illegal immigrants aren't, are criminals in the sense that they're in this country illegally, but aren't, you know, murderers or committed burglaries as, as were the criminals on the, on Pebble Lane street. So I guess the idea here is they need to move fast and they need to actually get to rev this up and not only go after criminals if they want to get anywhere near the mass deportation numbers. I do think Stephen Miller has been doing an effective job at this. Tom Homan has been deporting illegals for 40 some odd years, longer than I've been alive. So I think the Trump administration is in good hands with some of these immigration hawks that are in there.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to make sure we have this for everybody. From USA.gov After a non citizen is detained, they may go before a judge in immigration court during the deportation process. In some cases, a non citizen is subject to expedited removal without being able to attend a hearing in immigration court. Expedited removal may happen when a non citizen comes to the US without proper travel documents, uses forged travel documents, does not comply with their visa or other entry document requirements. That first one is all you need to know. Comes to the US without proper travel documents. What does that mean? If you crossed the border illegally, you do not get a hearing, you are subject to expedited removal. That is your due process. The process that you are due in this system is when you cross the border illegally without paperwork we send you back. Now look at this. If you did come in here with forged travel documents, expedited, if you did not comply with your visa or other entry document requirements, meaning even if you are here in good standing, if you are in violation of the terms of your visa, you don't get to go before a judge. That is the due process afforded non citizens as it pertains to deportation. So I implore everybody out there to understand the Democrats are lying when they conflate a jury trial with due process. That that way. When Trump said we shouldn't give trials to illegal immigrants, he wasn't saying strip them of their right to a trial. They never had one. He was saying we should not create a process by which we give trials to illegal immigrants. The media then misconstrues it. Gaslights people. This is how they're going to make permanent illegal immigration the norm in this country, by gaslighting Americans into thinking that you have to have trials. So that way in 2028, if a Democrat wins or maybe 2032, they'll then go. But don't forget, it is the norm in this country to have a jury trial anytime a non citizen enters the country, which makes it impossible to deport.

[Ian Crossland]

It's purposefully setting up a broken system is what they are trying to do here. Bring in millions upon millions of illegal immigrants and then to try to make the process of removing them make you a Nazi.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, not only that, the point is, that's because they want them to stay in order to, as we've discussed, to change the makeup of the United States. They want to dilute the voting power of the existing, you know, citizenry. They want to just import people that they think will vote more friendly to, to the Democrats.

[Courtney Nil]

So I have a question for you guys. So prior to working for myself, I actually worked for the prosecuting attorney's office in Jefferson county as a victim advocate for almost three years. So I actually saw this firsthand where we were dealing with illegal immigrants that committed really bad crimes to citizens. So my question is, should we, if we catch these people in our country and we're like, hey, you've done really bad stuff, should we just automatically kick them out or should we make them, you know, stand trial first and then.

[Ian Crossland]

Kick them out, stand trial in their country for the crimes, make sure they get locked up in the country that we deport them back to as I think can.

[Courtney Nil]

Can we make sure that that actually happens though?

[Ian Crossland]

If they want good relationships with the United States, they better bet.

[Tim Pool]

I, I, I. So as it pertains some of these, these really bad criminals, the Trump administration has dropped the criminal charges to get them out of the country faster. That is not the United States responsibility to deal with criminal gang members, send them back to their country. So Abrego Garcia goes, okay, well, that's El Salvador. He's El Salvadoran. Bye.

[Courtney Nil]

Yeah, My concern is that if they do go back to their country, that they might, if they aren't arrested and locked up there, they might get out and come back into the US because it's so easy for them to cross back over and then try to re victimize, you know, their original victim just because that's how bad our border security is right now. And that's, that's a real possibility if.

[Ian Crossland]

We keep locking up illegal immigrants here for crimes they were Committing. It's a, A total drag on our. Yeah, I don't think, I think that's why we need to get them locked up abroad. I don't think if they want good relationships with us, we have to make them do that.

[Tim Pool]

Just don't quit.

[Phil Labonte]

It's, it's super easy to get back in the US Right now. I think that it has been, but it's not currently.

[Tim Pool]

But anyway, as a quick aside, here's a really funny story. Detroit woman may be deported after taking wrong turn at Canadian U. S. Border. Oh gee. Oh golly me. I thought about this and I was like, wow, is Canada, Canada gonna deport a Detroit woman back to. Deport back to Detroit because she's an American? No, it's pretty obvious, right? Detroit woman. I love this. A woman from Guatemala who lives in Detroit. Oh, uh huh. But as you mentioned, people read the headlines and so they're gonna see this and they go, oh my God, that's the.

[Ian Crossland]

From the AP too. That's so crazy, man. What is going on?

[Phil Labonte]

It blows my mind that these organizations have no. To repair their destroyed reputations again. Whether it be the narrative that they were spinning last night at the White House correspondents dinner or things like that. They have absolutely no desire to repair their absolutely destroyed reputation. And they have absolutely destroyed their reputation. Like the legacy media. They're. The average person trusts them less than Congress. It's like down in the, like, like low, low double digits, like 15% of America or something like that. I don't remember exactly, but.

[Courtney Nil]

And you figure they have two paths in front of them. They could try to make a correction, right? They could try to get a little bit better. Be like, hey, we've gotten a little too far gone here. Let's, let's go this route instead. They're like, what's the biggest headline? What will get us the most clicks? Let's do whatever that is.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. And so they end up marching in lockstep, posting nonsense. They meet with each other, they're in private chat groups and they just, they just lie. You know what, you know what it is largely is they, they view themselves egotistically. You know, a great example is, and I'm, and I don't mean to be kind of a dick, but when Tara Palmeri was here, she's this Brooklyn based journalist and I respect that I will say this, you know, we'll give, we'll give a compliment before I deride her. She, she came on, we debated. The green room episode was actually feminism versus like, you know, I was basically saying a lot of women lie to win sexual harassment suits at the workplace, not all. And she was arguing with me, but she didn't get flustered or angry or anything. And we've had it. So I'm like, I respect it if you can argue with me. And I'm gonna get all heated and you're gonna get all heated. And then afterwards it's like, I'm not phased by it. However, she said she always wanted to be a muckraker. Nellie Bly. This is the narcissistic personality disorder of these, these journalists, they view themselves as the main character, as the arbiters of truth and justice in the American way. They think that they are on a mission to save the planet and only they can do it. They are, they are pure ego and sociopathic narcissism, just tightly wound. And so when they see Trump and they're stupid, they're midwits, really, which means they're actually a little bit smarter than normal, but not smart enough to understand deep, complex systems. They say, only I can make this right. I will lie to help the people, cuz I'm the philosopher king. That's how they view themselves. So they go into the newsroom, they all say, here's the approved narrative and we can defeat Donald Trump. Instead of saying, I don't know, do your thing, guys, and we'll figure out what's true. That's the way it should be.

[Courtney Nil]

Well, and I think it's similar to the way that we're treating science these days too, because it should be in a real good experiment that you just see what happens, you have your hypothesis, but then you just reach whatever conclusion there is. And that's what journalists should be doing, is doing real journalism. Just get to the bottom of things, come in with an open mind and just see what's going on, and then report exactly that. And instead it's creating a narrative. It's, you get to the end goal of what you want to say and then you look for evidence to support it. That is the wrong way to go about it.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Yeah. So, you know, my view largely is if it's true, it's true. If it's not, it's not. If Trump does something. So right now, the reason why the right, why Trump won the popular mandate is because reality has a conservative bias. These days. If you are like, you know, I was just, I guess appear on Charlie Kirk show earlier, Charlie Kirk and I can have a conversation where we disagree on policy issues and it's very boring. It's, yeah, Ben Shapiro too. Very boring. A lot. And I disagree. Sometimes we get heated, but in the.

[Phil Labonte]

End it's so much fun to disagree with.

[Tim Pool]

But, but we agree on the basic news facts of a story. So in the end we live in the same universe and that's all that matters. If Trump kicked a dog in the face and I watched a video, I'd be like, he did it. Like, like I fact checked that. Now I will say, considering they've lied so much, I almost just don't believe when they disparage Trump. I'm like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna wait a week. Cuz this is, this is a normal thing you gotta do. If the media comes out and says, orange man did bad thing, wait one week and then it gets debunked and then you're like, okay, there it is. The media gets released, the video gets released, the full context gets released. Trump never did that thing. They're lying.

[Ian Crossland]

Did you know that Tara Paul, Mary, she still hung up on the Very Fine People hoax.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, on the show.

[Phil Labonte]

We talked about it in the afternoon.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. After you left even she was extremely hung up on this and would not accept that she was misled at all.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You show her the video?

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah, we talked about.

[Tim Pool]

I pulled up Snopes and showed her.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no. Even beyond that, she said, no, no, no. I still think he called them very fine cult.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Because if you, if you can't change your mind in the presence of facts, you are in a cult. Like, and she's desperate to hold on to that.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. And it was astonishing because in this new media space, I don't feel like you could still be buying that hard into fake news like that. But she was really willing to stand by it. And then the way she started looking at us weird, like we were trying to push, like, like we were getting like the, we were the fake news.

[Tim Pool]

Because, okay, so people like her. And again, I thought, I respect her for being able to withstand the heat and you know, and she was, after the, when I was leaving, she was super chill. Some people, they bolt out of here so pissed off. Yeah, but she was, she was chill despite the fact it got heated. In her world, she's doesn't, she doesn't care what the facts are. She doesn't care what the video shows. What she cares about is that she has a group of people surrounding her that demand she believe what they believe. And so truth is predicated upon her social order, not reality. And I think that's. That's that's largely divided between the the feminine and masculine worldviews. I'm not trying to drag women by saying this, but the saying goes that women are subject oriented, men are object oriented, which means guys are going to look at the video and say that is the thing. Women are going to look to the people and say, what is the thing? You tell me. And so they're much more influenced by social pressures, which is why young girls are more likely to get depressed from Instagram and TikTok and things like that. And why you can show a news article and a video to a female Brooklyn journalist proving she's wrong and she won't believe it.

[Ian Crossland]

Courtney is the token woman. What's your take on that? What's your response?

[Courtney Nil]

Well, you have to at a certain point, just understand that facts are facts. Women can be a little bit more emotional at times, but you should also still have a brain and you should use it. You should think for yourself. And I think that's the problem is that so many people don't truly analyze what's going on, what's actually in front of them and think for themselves. That's what you need to do. And if you do that, people will trust you more. To me, I've always found that just being honest, sharing your, you know, whatever's there will actually in the long run help you out more.

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[Courtney Nil]

But that's not the world of journalists.

[Tim Pool]

Here's an article from the New York Times from February 18, 2021 titled Don't Go down the rabbit hole. Critical thinking as we're taught to do it isn't helping in the fight against misinformation.

[Ian Crossland]

I do think media literacy is at an all time low.

[Tim Pool]

This is the New York Times in 2021 telling people not to think critically. Yeah, okay.

[Ian Crossland]

You might be confused conclusions you come to right?

[Courtney Nil]

And look, look and look at the date on this February of 2021. What was happening in February of lockdown? It was lockdowns. Was it not vaccine? Vaccines.

[Tim Pool]

It was vaccines. It was J6. It was the, the election was stolen narrative and they were desperate to make sure, strangely, that lab leak, which they've now basically admitted, and it wasn't until I think was like a year or two ago, they debunked very fine people. You had all of these hoaxes that they laid out. And the New York Times says, don't think critically. So I'll just say this to the Democrats, when you, that's, that's, that's your, your, your, your vibe. The New York Times don't think critically. We kind of knew that. Well, let's jump to this next story. We've got this one from the post Millennial. Ladies and gentlemen, get ready for a summer of love because JB Pritzker is calling for a mass uprising against Trump in the times upon which history turns. Never before in my life have I called for mass protests, for mobilization, for disruption, but I am now.

[Ian Crossland]

These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace. They have to understand that we will fight their cruelty with every megaphone and microphone that we have. We must castigate them on the soapbox and then punish them at the ballot box.

[Tim Pool]

So I just want to real quick point out, that is the governor of Illinois. Illinois. How did I do that? I'm from there, just gave a. He gave carte blanche to the far left extremists to go and riot.

[Ian Crossland]

They must feel in their bones that when we survive this shameful episode of American history with our democracy intact because.

[Tim Pool]

We have no alternative but to do just that, that we will relegate their.

[Ian Crossland]

Portraits to the museum halls reserved for tyrants and traitors.

[Tim Pool]

Now, why is this scumbag doing it? Cuz he wants to run in 2028. That's it.

[Phil Labonte]

That's it.

[Tim Pool]

It's just there's no leadership, there's no plan, there's no solutions.

[Courtney Nil]

I don't know how someone as a leader can tell people that you should go be violent. How can you do that and have any integrity at all?

[Tim Pool]

Well, to be fair, he'd straddled the line calling for an uprising and saying Republicans shouldn't, shouldn't know a moment of peace, but then said, we'll fight them with megaphones and microphones. And that's how you veil it. He did say protests, but considering what the left does with their protests, I think he would need to explicitly say peaceful. And you know, Scott Pressler does, and the media says, why are you saying that? Is it because the right is violent? And he goes, no, it's because you will lie and Say I called for violence. So I always say peaceful. I think they should do it as well. But once again, this is just a wealthy billionaire scumbag who wants to run for office. And so he's demagoguing. You know, they're doing exactly what they accused Trump of doing, but they do it themselves. They violate the Constitution. They call for violence and mass uprisings, and they do it because they want power.

[Ian Crossland]

His brother, I think it's worth mentioning is Jennifer Pritzker, which is the.

[Tim Pool]

His brother.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. It's the first openly transgender billionaire. Just something to consider about the Pritzkers, that they are deep pocketed progressives who donate heavily to same sex issue causes and gender issues. I was trying to read the specifics in this article. There's a very long article about their twin brother.

[Phil Labonte]

There's no such thing as transgender.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, that's why I said brother. I didn't want anybody. No, no, no, I got it confused. No, it's the cousin. It's the cousin.

[Tim Pool]

Oh. And. Well, I mean, I find that semantically silly. There is a thing as transgender.

[Phil Labonte]

I. I disagree.

[Tim Pool]

Describes what a person does when they start dressing like a woman.

[Ian Crossland]

It's a person who believes they're the opposite gender.

[Tim Pool]

Like they're. This person is a real person. Like. And they're engaged in any behavior that we describe as being transgender or gender dysphoric. You can tell them that they're wrong and they're men, you know. But mental illness, it's a DSM 5 mental disorder.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes. Disorder. My bad.

[Tim Pool]

Mental disorder.

[Ian Crossland]

But it's such an interesting coalition that the Democrats are managing to assem. Because while you have Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez running around the country saying fight the oligarchy, you still have many Democrat billionaires at the top of their party telling people to. What was that quote again from him? I don't want to get sued by any of these rich people.

[Tim Pool]

Which way?

[Phil Labonte]

Something dumb.

[Ian Crossland]

Moment of Republicans will know.

[Tim Pool]

No. Moment of peace.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. These people will sue you. So that's. Yeah, I wanted to cover my bases.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

This is, this is no different than things that Maxine Waters was saying in 2020 or 20. This is no. Like it's been the same MO in the context of Donald Trump and Republicans because they don't just mean Donald Trump. Donald Trump has fundamentally changed the Republican Party. The old school Republicans have really gone over to the progressive side very strongly. And so the idea that there are Republicans that would not be considered MAGA Republicans nowadays, I think that that ship has sailed to the progressives. Everybody that's not a progressive, everybody that is a Republican is a MAGA Republican. And they might even likely be right because like I said, I think that Donald Trump has changed the Republican Party. I think that now that Donald Trump has shown that you can do things, I don't think there, there will be another president that comes in as a Republican that can just do whatever the Democrats want and expect to be elected for a second term. I don't think that the party would be or the base would be satisfied at all.

[Ian Crossland]

I think this is baseled, by the way, at least among the Democrats. This, I don't think this is top down. They cannot know a moment of peace isn't because Pritzker is trying to tell the people below him to do that. I think the people below him are saying, we want to fight back. We want somebody to champion the idea of fighting back and posturing like that. And he's trying to like take that mantle. Same with the guy from the, the Indian guy that we were talking about earlier.

[Tim Pool]

I do think it's funny how if you go to these liberal podcast subreddits, how often they talk about civil war.

[Ian Crossland]

They'Re stealing your thing.

[Tim Pool]

I know, man. Come on. You know, I was saying civil war before was.

[Courtney Nil]

You're not kind of funny that the side without the guns wants a civil war.

[Phil Labonte]

No, not. We've talked about this on the, on the podcast before. If there is going to be civil, civil war, civil strife, let it happen when the Republicans are in control of the government so the Republicans have control of the military and let the left go ahead and take on the, the, the military.

[Tim Pool]

But that, that's the point. You are correct. But liberals are buying guns now.

[Courtney Nil]

So this, everybody should have a gun. So I mean, I agree, I have.

[Tim Pool]

Very many of them. But this is the rhetoric the left is pushing. They're saying it's time to go buy guns. And if you go to these subreddits, younger liberals, and I'm talking about leftists, love guns. We know they do, like actual communicate commies. Yes, they walk around with rifles. They love guns. They love of the other second amendment. But liberals now, especially since the riots, have been posting on these forums on Reddit saying shut up and go buy a gun. And they're specifically saying gun nuts are armed to the teeth and we are not. This is going to get bad. So the point is when Homie Pritzker is saying rise up and we've already seen firebombings and I mean they Were shooting up Teslas. Yeah, shooting up Tesla's cars and locations, creating the space for more violence. Whether it's. I was calling for a peaceful protest, all that's going to do is create more violence. And the point about these people calling for or saying civil war is coming is they genuinely are starting to recognize and I, and for whatever reason, they mocked me all the time when I said, you know, we are tracking towards civil war. It doesn't mean it happens because we've been, we've been like the, the civil rights era was, was a civil strife period. Didn't go to a civil war. But now that liberals are saying it, it certainly feels like there's. We're on a highway with no exits. It's going in one direction, and all we can do is go as fast as we can. So that's the worrying thing when Pritzker's view of rallying the people so he can win in 2028 is telling them to rise up in perpetual mass uprising against Republicans, which we've already seen take violent form. The next move to 1Up Pritzker for 2028 is going to. But it's going to be to say more if you want to run for office as a Democrat. And Pritzker has already staked the claim to. I have called for mass protests. What do you say? Well, I agree. We should have mass protests. They'll say, then why would I vote for you? I can vote for Pritzker. He's already, he's already got it. I think we should protest more or.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, Kamala Harris set the bar with fundraising for bond for people who are committing crimes during the BLI riots, I believe. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, indeed. So I, I see this as potential for escalation. But the question that everyone asks then is, do the Democrats actually have the metrics right? So they may say these things, but Trump won the popular vote. I don't think with these poll. You've got polls coming out saying Trump's underwater now and it's like his approval rating is like minus four. So it's just, it's like, okay, within the margin of error, could be minus 1, it could be minus 4, could be a little bit more. Minus 7. Sure, I guess. What do really, what do we, what do we learn from these things? Not much. It doesn't mean people are motivated to do anything, but they are trying to create this perception of, you know, growing animosity towards Trump. The question then becomes, will that allow. Will that create a shift where Democrats actually once again have popular support for mass writing?

[Courtney Nil]

I don't think so. It's a very different place on the Internet where people are really bold and they like to say things that are edgy in the actual population. When you are out and about in the world, aside from a couple token crazy people, most people are not like that. Look, I've been going and door knocking and I've talked to a lot of liberal voters. Most of them are kind and friendly and I can have a nice conversation with them. That's not what real people are like. So I don't think that we really are headed in that direction now. Doesn't mean that you won't get a bunch of radical kids all riled up and then they won't go do something violent. But the actual country, the actual core of who we are, I don't think we're anywhere near that.

[Ian Crossland]

It might be because you're in West Virginia. I think people are more polite out here for one reason or another.

[Courtney Nil]

I get out, I've traveled, I've been other places.

[Tim Pool]

You know, isn't it, Isn't it crazy how Frederick, Maryland is woke as a joke and then you cross over into West Virginia and it's substantially less. It's still there. You can still see it, but way more conservative. That's, that's. That's crazy to me.

[Phil Labonte]

The more people would say, I don't think this is gonna end. This is, this is. Up until right now, this has been 100. My view that nothing was going to actually happen. The more people I hear agree with me. They're more like, I don't know, man. I'm start all these people saying it. I, I'm starting to worry.

[Tim Pool]

Worry about civil war.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, we'll worry about the. What the summer's going to be like. You know, the more people that say nothing's going to happen, the more I'm like, well, maybe, you know, maybe because again, I. I'm of kind of of the same opinion. Without something like Covid to get the average normal people out on the streets. Well, and I kind of think that they wouldn't. I think it's going to be if, if there is something that happens, I think it's going to be more isolated incidents, more small, you know, firebombing of Tesla, those types of things. But the pro. The, the concern I have is when does that become, you know, when do they attack people as opposed to.

[Courtney Nil]

And one thing else I think that's important to see. Notice how he said coming up soon in summer. That's always when they like to have their big riots because it's when it's nice outside and they can rally people to go spend some time out there, then it's never in January or in November.

[Tim Pool]

I will say this. What is the biggest risk to Donald Trump? Is it the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia? No. Is the mass deportation of Ms. 13 and TDA? No. Is the mass deportation of any legal government? Absolutely not. Is it the tariffs? Not on the surface, but I'm a fan of. Of strategic tariffs targeting specific industries and resources because our industry has been gutted and US can't compete with slave labor in foreign countries in Southeast Asia. But Trump's blanket tariffs, recipe for disaster if he does not have a functional plan. I'm not saying he doesn't, but the rumor is that with the 145% tariffs on China, a bunch of CEOs went to the White House. This is true. And they met with Trump and they apparently told him, we are weeks away from barren shelves at box stores. We are weeks away from going to Target, and they're not being silverware or clothing or food because of how much we get made in China. Now, it may be around. I think it's like 10 to 13 of our goods are made in China. But people need to understand that if there's a component that is made in China and is required for a. For a t, let's, let's say. So we get our TVs from China, to be honest, China and Koreans stuff. But let's say that there is a vehicle that gets made. Like, we make our cars here in the United States and we source key components from China. So with the tariffs, you're going to see a shortage of a lot more than just these things. None of what Trump has done pertaining to, you know, deportation, Doge, none of that will create a summer of love. But I guarantee you, you will get a summer of love and fire, the likes of which we have not seen. If there are food shortages.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that.

[Tim Pool]

Now, I'm not convinced there will be absolute food shortages because Americans are fat and happy. But general product shortages, putting a strain on families in any capacity, high cost of food, and then you're going to see people rioting. That you would not expect to see. Right. This is not an opinion. This is a fact of riots. When food costs go up or access to food goes down, people riot in huge numbers. But let's jump to this next story, which is Facebook is censored. Is censoring people from the post. Millennial Facebook blocks Charlestown, West Virginia City Council candidates page with no further appeal. They reviewed it and then just today I got a notice we disabled your account. So let me start by saying this is a local city council race for us here in Charlestown, West Virginia, and it's written by Libby Emmons. Why? Well, because she lives out here too, and we live out here. And this is important because for some reason, this conservative town in a conservative state, in the second most Trump supporting state in the country, has a liberal Democrat city council. And I asked a council member, how is that possible? And he says, conservatives aren't going out and voting. I will tell you this. Courtney is here, you're running, and I think Facebook intentionally shut down your page to put their thumb on the scale. Even though it's a small election, their attitude is probably just damage as many conservative candidacies as we can across the board and get progressives in control of cities.

[Courtney Nil]

I was in shock that this happened. You hear about, oh, well, you know, everyone's against you, the media, this and that. And I don't know, I try to actually think about things and make sure that that's real and it's not just a news story.

[Elad Eliyahu]

But.

[Courtney Nil]

But it happened to me. There was nothing controversial on my page. And so I'm just so grateful that I'm a candidate who is on other social media platforms and actually has a voice to speak out about something like this happening. Thankfully, I'm going to try to still be able to maybe win my race and this isn't going to be this huge, devastating blow, hopefully.

[Tim Pool]

But, I mean, they're clearly. What was the reason they gave for censoring your Facebook?

[Courtney Nil]

They said I broke community guidelines and that I was impersonating Courtney Nil.

[Tim Pool]

But you are.

[Courtney Nil]

I am, in fact. Courtney Nil, indeed. Always have been.

[Tim Pool]

Here's. Here's the thing. I know for a lot of people you might be saying it's like a local story. They're probably doing this to tens of thousands of local elections because local elections are where you win everything. Charlestown passed. And you can tell me more about this probably, because, you know more. What was it they passed some kind of like LGBTQ pride resolution or something?

[Courtney Nil]

Well, I know that right now on the books, no one's used it as far as I know. Currently, folks that are transgender and want to use the bathroom that they want to use in bathrooms, that applies to locker rooms that they would. The businesses would have to allow them to use whatever bathroom or locker room that they want, or they could civilly be Sued by. They were open for civil lawsuit.

[Tim Pool]

Jefferson county recently. This is where Charleston has banned drag shows with kids too. Berkeley county, where we are allow it. And in Martinsburg, West Virginia, which again you'd think like West Virginia is going to be red. They had a drag show in front of the building we own with children on stage. So I actually complained to the. At the time he was ag, but now he's the governor Morrissey. And I was like, how is this possible? And he's like, the prosecutors need to this. It is illegal. You can't do this. There's already a laws against lewd displays and it's aggravated with children around. But my bigger concern just Zuckerberg is doing this apology tour kind of thing. It's not a, it's not an apology tour, but he's like, you know, we made a mistake about censoring and we're not gonna do it. So he goes on Rogan. He just went on Theo Vaughan. He rejected coming on this show.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, wow. You reached out to him and they.

[Tim Pool]

And they gave us a formal rejection at this time. We must decline or something like that.

[Ian Crossland]

Wow, that's B.S.

[Tim Pool]

But he's doing the circumstances.

[Phil Labonte]

It.

[Tim Pool]

He's going. He's going on shows where he's not going to get any legitimate pushback. Cause he's trying to, he's trying to fix his image. If he came on this show, we'd be like, hey, Mark, fix it. Hey, uncensor us. And they're like, we don't want to do that because they are still censoring conservatives heavily and just lying to the press. I mean, look, the dude's a smart guy. He's a billionaire. He said, we want to keep censoring Trump supporters and conservatives, but they're getting mad at us. I got it. It. I'll just go on Joe Rogan's show and claim that I'm not. That's it.

[Courtney Nil]

Yeah, we're not that gullible. We're going to look at what's actually happening and thank goodness for Elon buying X. Like, I know I said that earlier, but if I didn't have that as a platform to voice what's going on. I actually tagged Zuckerberg the other day in the post that I made about it and I'm like, hey, what's the deal? This is my official campaign page. The most controversial thing that I had on there was footage from the farmer's market and highlighting local small family owned businesses.

[Tim Pool]

Is your, is your opponent on Facebook? He is, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

So.

[Tim Pool]

So He's a lot of a Facebook. And you're not.

[Courtney Nil]

It seems like it should sue. I'm open to it. Any attorneys, you're welcome to contact me.

[Ian Crossland]

Courtney, I wanted to commend you for putting yourself out there and deciding to run this race. Obviously, the problem that you guys think here is that there are too many liberals on the city council, and that's because conservatives don't run. So that's why I commend you for running. Can you give us your quick elevator pitch on why you decided to run and what change you want to make in the community here?

[Courtney Nil]

So I was born and raised in Charlestown, West Virginia. It's a community that I care about. Like I said, I spent time at a prosecuting attorney's office, and at my time there, I was helping victim crime victims of Charlestown. I was trying to help them deal with all the problems that they are facing. And when you see sexual violence, when you see theft, whatever it is, I'm like, okay, well, I want to help these people. So I decided to move on with my career. But I still want to help Charlestown. And I don't even want to think about it as being conservative or being liberal. We just need new ideas, new fresh perspectives. Right now with city council, you have a lot of the people to all just kind of go along with everything together rather than offering a different opinion. I still want to be kind and work with all these people. And I want to represent even the Democrats that are in my district. I want to represent them, too. And I want them to know that they can come to me with any problems and I'm going to try to solve it, and I'm going to try to make a good life for them. But we need young people. We need the freedom. And so I'm just. I'm just glad to serve. I'm glad I get this opportunity.

[Tim Pool]

What is your opponent running on?

[Courtney Nil]

Well, we had a candidate forum a few weeks ago. I know that he wants to put in bathrooms for the homeless people. That was his solution to homelessness. And he thinks that we have plenty of economic growth and we don't need more.

[Tim Pool]

Wait.

[Phil Labonte]

What a terrible idea.

[Courtney Nil]

I couldn't believe when he said it. I don't know if he misspoke, but yep, that's what he said.

[Tim Pool]

Yikes.

[Ian Crossland]

And to be clear, this isn't like a super glamorous, high paying position that you'll be coasting off of for the rest of your life?

[Courtney Nil]

Yep. It makes less than $5,000 a year. It's mostly Just a community service.

[Tim Pool]

I'm surprised there's any pay at all. A lot of, you know, city council stuff is just. You just do it. You just volunteer, basically.

[Courtney Nil]

Yeah. I'm grateful. There's a little bit.

[Ian Crossland]

What made you, like, truly. What sparked the. The want to run beyond, you know, the. The generic wanting to make a difference in your community that you grew up in and, like, what made you think, like, this is something you could be successful? And was there something that happened, a moment that you had where you went, this is wrong. I want to run to change because of this or.

[Courtney Nil]

Well, I've spent a lot of time on X talking about politics. I talk about what I see is happening in the country, about what issues there are. And rather than just talking about it, I want to actually do something. Whether that means getting good people elected to these offices and volunteering on campaigns, working on campaigns, I've done all of that. And when my local community members brought it up to me, hey, we need some good people on Charlestown City Council. Would you consider running? And it took me a little bit. I didn't just automatically say yes. I had to think it over because it meant that I was going to lose my anonymity online. It could open me up to stalkers and problems. But I care. I just care. And that's what we need, is we need more people that are willing to do the hard work. Yeah. There's better things I could do than spend my time, you know, going and knocking on every door in Charlestown to try to win an election. But if I can make a difference on city council, then it's worth it.

[Tim Pool]

Do you go. Do you go to Latin Mass?

[Courtney Nil]

I don't. I'm just a regular Protestant.

[Tim Pool]

Regular. Okay. But you've never been to it.

[Courtney Nil]

Because I have been in that church. It's quite pretty.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. Phil's been there.

[Phil Labonte]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

He said it was metal.

[Phil Labonte]

It is the most. It's the most metal Catholic church experience that I've ever gone. Been to in my life. So it's very cool, though. It is really, really. If you have never been to a Latin mass and you're. You're a Catholic or even Catholic, curious, such as myself, I would recommend going. It's very cool.

[Ian Crossland]

I want to say that's. That was like an interesting background, and we. We don't need to talk. Your race is very interesting, and I think it's an interesting pipeline. It seems as though Twitter shit. Poster two, Potential city council member pipeline. I hope others can take a cue from you, you could just be a poster on Twitter one day and get involved in your local community and then decide to run for something. And, and Courtney has an opportunity here to represent her community. And you know, people really can make a difference in their communities.

[Tim Pool]

And the first people gotta run.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

Like we need more people in more city councils, in more local offices. We had the state, state's Freedom Caucus guys on here last week.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

If we are going to win, it's got to be at the state level. People don't realize this. Your state reps, your city council, your state senators, they're the ones shaping the districts and the rules that then affect the federal government. And too many people just vote for president and then they walk away. And then what happens is crackpots will lie about their. You know, what we've been seeing in West Virginia is the far left has been claiming they're nonpartisan, hiding their political views and then getting on school boards.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And then all of a sudden the school is full of weird stuff. The kids are being taught weird sex stuff. This is actually happening in Jefferson County. And then parents are like, whoa, why is my kid learning this? And they look at the school board and they're like, that's a progressive leftist who moved here from out of town.

[Ian Crossland]

I think a lot of people would be surprised at how much success they could have in local politics if they just put in an honest effort. In off year elections, people already don't know who their local congress people are, let alone their local state and further down ballot in city council. So putting in an honest effort, the fundraising isn't super high. Courtney. I, I don't know how many people are going to be voting in your race, but I'm sure it'll be decided by less than 100 or so voters. And you know, there are elections that are happening constantly on an annual basis and you could really make a big difference from the grassroots and up.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to say, like, you're the guy you running as. He's a progressive guy.

[Courtney Nil]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Are there any like West Virginia progressive podcasts?

[Courtney Nil]

I'm not aware of any. Not that I would be listening to them.

[Tim Pool]

But this is like the crazy thing. You should win easily in West Virginia. I mean, Riley Moore is our rep and he's got a bill that you brought up where he wants to strip the visas of what, 300,000 Chinese national students cuz they're a threat to national security. I mean, that ain't no progressive position. That's a lot of Maryland men getting sent home Or I suppose if they're Chinese nationals, they're California men or something. But in this district, you'd think there's no contest. Yet still, Charlestown is, I believe it's majority like progressive, isn't it?

[Courtney Nil]

So not really. So the people that show up to actually vote, there's a lot of people that are downtown and that's where you have most of the more liberal voters all concentrated is downtown, where they can walk to the polling place. Because that's the thing. It's not. This polling isn't taking place at people's regular polling locations that they use in the general election. No, this all occurs at City hall. And the people closest to City hall tend to vote the most. And so my thing that I've been working on is going out to the other neighborhoods that are still Charlestown, they're still within the city limits. But these people are not very civilly engaged. And I'm trying to let them know that, hey, there's just an election coming up. Please just show up and vote for someone.

[Tim Pool]

But, but the city council is dominated by progressives.

[Courtney Nil]

It is, right?

[Tim Pool]

That's what I meant.

[Courtney Nil]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it's, it's, it's a red area that should have a Republican or conservative leaning city council, but it's got a progressive city council that voted in a Pride month resolution and things like that. And so that's what I find interesting. I'm just thinking, where is your competition, you know, your com, your, your opponent in this political race, a progressive, going to find support in this community to, to muster up these votes?

[Courtney Nil]

Well, he's taken down. He normally keeps some, you know, gay pride flags and some pro choice signs in his yard. He's taken all of those down really, while he's in the election cycle.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I was saying. They hide their political views, try and get your vote and then come out and say, aha. See, actually I'm, I'm for all these things.

[Courtney Nil]

Yeah. So it's a little disheartening to see, but I'm just hoping that people actually show up. I was out door knocking in Ward 4, which is one of the more conservative wards that we have. And I had been at a door and they just, you know, took my pamphlet and then, you know, they didn't want to talk. So I just was moving on. And then she came out back out the door and ran over to me and was like, she's like, I just wanted to let you know, she's like, this is Ward four. This isn't Ward Three. So you're not campaigning in the right spot. And I'm like, oh no. All of the residents of Charlestown can vote in this race. She didn't know there were other people that were thinking about becoming a write in candidate that didn't know that they needed to go campaign in all four wards. So that's how little people know about the municipal election.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

It's like that at a lot of local elections too. People are very disconnected on the very local.

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[Tim Pool]

Yep. And these local races can be, can be decided by tens of votes, as you were saying earlier. Tens of votes. And then you get, this is the thing, conservatives, Republicans, Trump supporters. How did Trump lose the midterms in 20, in 2018, Trump supporters didn't turn out right. He won in 2016 with a massive mega base. But they didn't want to vote in the midterms because they wanted to vote for Trump. But then Trump got impeached twice. So that's why it matters. You get a state rep in who's some progressive and they're going to gerrymander. They're going to, they're going to vote on crazy laws and they're going to mess your hometown up. And you're saying how's this happen happening. That's the way it happens, man. At the local level. But let's go to your chats my friends, if you haven't already. Would you kindly smash that like button? Share the show with everyone you know. We got that uncensored call in show coming up in about a half an hour. You don't want to miss it. That's going to [e-mail] Tim Guest IRL make sure you use promo code TIM10 for your annual membership. You will save 10 bucks. It's totally worth it. And also if you want to call in, join our discord [e-mail] the Culture War Live is this weekend, this Saturday. We're all going to be there. Elijah going to be there.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that's going to be there and.

[Tim Pool]

Alex Stein will be there. Will Chamberlain will be debating Pisco Litty on the legality of the Abrego Garcia deportations. And we've got, I think like 17 submissions from members to join us on stage and actually get in that debate. So it's going to be, it's the pilot episode of Culture War Live. We have no idea if it's going to work, which is why we're really glad Alex Stein's going to be there because he will just insult people and make jokes and we'll be entertained no matter what happens. But we hope that you guys get involved. It's going to be fun. All right, Dirty Aftw says great to see Courtney on the show. Prayers for everyone in Europe currently without power. Wait, is the power still out? Still out.

[Phil Labonte]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

When I was live this morning, they restored it mostly. Wow. All right, Matt Ride says Angry Cops made some serious allegations against the Buffalo School board regarding cover covering up abuse and attempted kidnappings in the district and not reporting to the police. What's your thoughts? Indeed, when we had Angry Cops on the show, he briefly mentioned this and we do have the article. We will talk about that in the uncensored portion. All right, what do we got here? Clev Buckeye says, damn, that was the one where I shout out Evita Duffy, but similar and less R rated. I don't know that's a reference to. But thanks for the super chat. He's got a link in there for Facebook. All right, Jeffrey French, PDS says Nikki Haley will be Democrat nominee. Taking bets?

[Ian Crossland]

Not a chance. I don't. Yeah, not a chance.

[Tim Pool]

What is she even doing right now?

[Ian Crossland]

Now I think she was the governor of South Carolina, but now she's just sitting on the sideline. I could look it up.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, man, at a certain point these people should retire, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Like what?

[Tim Pool]

Why? There's so much to do.

[Ian Crossland]

I think she wanted a position in Trump's cabinet too. When she was running. She was hoping for something like that. You know why?

[Tim Pool]

You know, I, I, I just can't empathize with these people. I can't understand why they would want that. I would not want a position in Trump's administration unless it was to arrest dirty cops, as I mentioned. But mostly, nah. Yeah, I don't want to be in, I don't want those jobs. I can't understand how they do anybody like Nikki Haley or any of the Democrats.

[Ian Crossland]

So she's currently, I believe, a she works at a conservative think tank. Walter P. Stern, chair at the Hudson Institute suit.

[Tim Pool]

I will also add that the Canadian elections are right now and the results are coming in. So it's. So far, The Liberals have 17 seats, the Conservatives have six. And so we'll. We'll see how this plays out. But this. There's 23 out of 343 seats called the.

[Ian Crossland]

The spin's been that Trump sank Pierre Poliev as a result of the 51st state.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

And you know what? I don't doubt it, actually. And you know what? I don't really care. I don't really care about Canada. I kind of don't care who their leader is over there. And eventually we will force them. Quebec will force Canada to, like, fall apart into pieces. And then we'll pick up the pieces as we want. Not BC People need to understand the same with Quebec.

[Tim Pool]

Trump's. Trump's a Canada accelerationist. He knows that if you get a Pierre Polyev, he's a stopgap gap. He's not far right or anything like that. He's just kind of middle of the road, but leans left. So Trump's attitude is, no, no, no, no. Canada needs to suffer under far left, psychotic, sociopathic nonsense. And so. And I'm half kidding, by the way, but Trump was interviewed by Goldberg at the Atlantic, and he's basically saying that he's, you know, he was asked this and he's like, yeah, I don't care. He's like, whatever. He's like, I think they'd be a great 51st state. And Goldberg's like, but they'll vote Democrat. He's like, so what? But that's like, Trump doesn't care.

[Phil Labonte]

My. The only concern that I have is the. Is the. The guy that's likely to win.

[Tim Pool]

He's.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's very much in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party. They will. Him. Him being elected will mean China has significantly more influence over Canada. And China already has significant influence over.

[Tim Pool]

That's Trump's play.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Carney wins, the Chinese start moving in with troops, and then Trump says, oh.

[Ian Crossland]

No, we need to liberate.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we got to liberate them from.

[Ian Crossland]

The Chinese Communist Latin phrase for a reason. Yeah, there we go. There we go. It's all part of the plan. Trust the plan. And then we'll think of something with Greenland and the Panama. Panama Canal as well. What?

[Phil Labonte]

Panama Canal's hand.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but we don't.

[Ian Crossland]

No, we don't.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Have it. We came to, like, some agreement that would, like, give us better access to it. Oh, you're saying total conquest, sovereignty over.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Occupation, sovereignty, seizure.

[Phil Labonte]

I think, I think all you really need is.

[Ian Crossland]

And same with Greenland. Greenland needs to become a sovereign part of the United States too.

[Phil Labonte]

The Panama Canal. All you need is one aircraft carrier on one side and one aircraft carrier on the other. And then I think the decision's been made.

[Ian Crossland]

The most important part though is going to be able to cross because if it blows up, then, you know, we can transport our navy.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not saying, I'm not saying blow it up. I'm not, I'm not saying damage it at all, but you know. Well, two aircraft carriers are extremely influential foreign policy.

[Tim Pool]

Have you guys ever watched the video of going through the Panama Canal?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I've seen that.

[Tim Pool]

It's amazing.

[Phil Labonte]

It's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

It's so crazy. So out here you've been like the canal with the lock system, right?

[Courtney Nil]

Yes, I have.

[Tim Pool]

It's so cool. It's basically how they built man. Humans, they're crafty little mfers, man. I'll tell you what. So how do you ship goods down the water? It's, it floats super easy and then you just go. The river flows. But how do you ship goods upstream? They would flood a side of the river. I know most people know this because it's like fifth grade science, but it's just so cool. And then they would build the locks where you're going uphill. The boat comes in, they lock the gate behind it, open the gate in front of it and the water floods, lifting it up. It moves forward and it lifts it up, man. Archimedes, with that law of water displacement, I'm telling you.

[Ian Crossland]

So one of the drawbacks to this is that it requires a ton of water to do. And at the Panama Canal they're running out of water and it's making them be able to accept less transport as a result of it.

[Tim Pool]

Because it goes through a lake, doesn't it? Like a freshwater lake.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. And then when you're doing those lock and key, you're losing water, right? It goes a lot of water and it takes a lot of water to do this whole process. And the Panama Canal needs to be reformed or there needs to be made changes there. It's not as sufficient as we need it to be. Needs to be widened. And there's.

[Tim Pool]

I think, I think there's. Is there a. Is it a freshwater lake?

[Ian Crossland]

I think they want to do something in Nicaragua or.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean it's, it's still the, the most narrow part and, and that's the most, I imagine that would still be the most efficient location.

[Tim Pool]

That. That's the issue. It's a freshwater lake called the Gatton Lake, and it's a major part of the canal where the. The ships go through. So you can't just bring in seawater. And, yeah, the Chinese wanted to build the Nicaraguan Canal, which is insane because it's a massive land mass. It's not. Panama's a thin strip.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Nicaragua was pretty. Pretty massive, and they abandoned the project. It would have destroyed a massive natural water aquifer. So people were freaking out. This is like. This is like 10 years ago. They were trying to do it.

[Ian Crossland]

China cannot have any major projects on this side of the hemisphere, in any part of the Western hemisphere. We need a renewal of the Monroe Doctrine. And obviously, the Nicaraguan Canal didn't go anywhere. But the fact that they were even, you know, considering it, they also had weird influence in. In Panama that we need to be very aware of. The Chinese cannot have any influence in South America. We need a renewal of the Monroe Doctrine.

[Tim Pool]

Good. All right. Tony Morlock says, per tradition, I'm watching from the hospital with my newborn baby, Ben. Unfortunately, he was born with an underdeveloped aorta. A shout out would be awesome. Give, send. Go, baby Morlock. Sorry to hear it, man. I hope. I hope everything works out well, though I don't know what the treatment is. Underdeveloped aorta. That sounds serious. Yeah, well, wishing the best for you, man. All right, let's grab some more super chats. Peter, go Walk says, consider the impeachment a new record for Trump. He's the greatest. No one's gotten more impeachments than him. No one's gotten more nationwide injunctions. That's something else, ain't it? Illegal but heroic. That's what I always say.

[Ian Crossland]

Impeachment without removal. All bark, no bite. Keep doing it. Doesn't mean anything if he doesn't get removed in the Senate. Like, mazel tov. You didn't do anything.

[Tim Pool]

Tyler Pruitt says. Remember Eric July basically said the following. Until you realize you're playing a game against people who don't care about the rules, you will lose when trying to follow the rules. Man, I've been saying this forever. Yeah, yeah, you're playing Monopoly and you're watching them just pull money out of the bank. And they're like, no, I'm allowed. And you're like, okay. I wonder why I'm losing. No matter what I do, I can't seem to win. Indeed. All right. Wheel. Impressive. Says, I'm an Uber driver in Cleveland. Just saw your bill bid. Bill. Bill B. Billboard. Lfg. Yeah, we might have like a hundred billboards. I don't know how many we have. A lot. Lot. We got small ones, big ones, wide ones, tall ones, you know, you name it.

[Ian Crossland]

Are they sparsely. They're kind of everywhere. Cleveland, this guy said he was. Where else you got them?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we put them. I think they're in 10 cities. 10, 10 metro. 10 metropolitan areas in the Midwest and Rust belt. Yeah. Hefty cost when, when we. But we did it's six month campaign so they're going to be up for six months all over the place. When we did it, it was really funny. I did a campaign in Chicago and I think one of the best moments was let me see if I can find this actually. Let's see. Billboard. I bet I can find this. Reddit. Here we go. This one's from three years ago. This is why we do it. Listen, this is, this is what it's for. From the David Pakman show subreddit Tim Pool with a billboard in downtown Chicago. Regardless of my opinion, I think it's a smart move move. I don't know why more new media shows aren't buying outdoor ads like this. It would be one way to fight the algorithm and build awareness even if YouTube is not recommending the show. Great, that was a digital one. And then he claims left and consumes mostly right wing media, that his lane seems well funded. I know what that means. They were also complaining like oh man, we're so cooked. Blah, blah blah. It's funny. Tim Pool, he's everywhere. That's right. We had billboards, dude. We had a way to one hunt. We had a 90 foot foot vinyl billboard inside of a building in Chicago. Chicago is expensive though. It's like a hundred. I mean actually you can't even. I can't even break down because it's, it's, it's subjective. But like one billboard in Chicago might be like 10 grand for the month, upwards of 30 or 40 grand. It's pretty crazy.

[Ian Crossland]

This, this is so flattering to you that if I didn't know better, I'd think this was planted by you guys. But I know the company well enough to know that we couldn't be plant the. This is so flattering to you. This guy's like, wow, all in Wavo's.

[Tim Pool]

Account has been suspended.

[Ian Crossland]

Can't say these things about Tim on here. But like, you know, regardless of my opinion, it's a smart move.

[Tim Pool]

Like yeah, but you know, it's, it's indicative of David Beckman. All they do is lie. That's what they do. This, this top comment says, never, never let Tim Pool Forget his Trump 49 state, possibly 50 state landslide comments about the 2020 election that he had said for months leading to the election. Anyone that takes him serious, course, this is the world they live in.

[Ian Crossland]

How mad do you think this guy is that Trump's president?

[Tim Pool]

Well, right, but.

[Ian Crossland]

So three years ago, what I actually.

[Tim Pool]

Had said was Moody's analytics in early 2020, I think was projecting a possible Trump landslide victory based on the economic factors until Covid happened. So it was 2019 into 2020. Moody's was like, our forecast predicts a Trump serious victory. And then the comment they're referring to was the meme. There's a meme. 49 state landslide. Like whenever Trump was doing something well or the polls were good for him, the meme was 49 state landslide. They made a super cut of these. And also comments I had made where I'd said things like, get this, I said, if Trump appoints Andrew Yang as an economic adviser and Tulsi Gabbard as National Security Advisor and then does something like, like issues pardons for all Nonviolent pot offenders. 49 state landslide. And 49 state landslide isn't a literal term. But these people don't understand. You're blasting music over here.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know what the hell's going on.

[Tim Pool]

They don't understand memetics. They don't understand what 49 state landslide actually represents. It literally just means Trump wins handily. It's not a literal phrase. But this is what we're dealing with. So, like, let me, let me pull this up. I gotta drag David Pacman because he's such a. His. He's wwe, man. And it's, and it's. And he does well. So congratulations to him. I will give him that. Let me pull up this video. I got to show you this one. This is, this is fantastic. I mean, I should just show you what his YouTube is like if you guys don't watch it. What does he have here? He does these ones like this. The Clown Pac Man. Okay, Deports two year old citizen Trump deports a two year old US Citizen. Global humiliation. That's absolutely fake. Literally never happened.

[Phil Labonte]

It's so embarrassing.

[Ian Crossland]

We talked about this a little bit earlier.

[Tim Pool]

The.

[Ian Crossland]

The parent was an illegal migrant and chose to bring their child with them.

[Tim Pool]

And they were given the option to keep the kid here in the United States under, under, under Care. So let me see if I can find this one that he had recently. It's actually from a while ago.

[Ian Crossland]

You might find Marilyn Mand on here.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, look, he's got me. He only got 20, 000 views on it though. Trump Press X says pro Trump put Tim Pool unbiased. No, she didn't. That's, that's just so silly, isn't it?

[Ian Crossland]

It. These guys should pay you royalties, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

David Pacman is a weak man. Here you go. I've been warned. Do not leave the country in all caps. 3.4 million views. He was warned by like his brother's. His, his brother in law. It's like his brother's like, man, you better not leave the country. And he goes, whoa, you're right, I should make a video about that. But hey, dude, I'm kidding. He got warned by his lawyer or something. I don't know. Or so he says, like I should just make videos like this. You know what I mean? Like, I wish I was as unscrupulous as David Pakman. I've known the guy for like it's been like 13 years now. And I wish I was as smarmy and unscrupulous as he was so that I could get 3.4 million views on, on that video at seven minutes with 3.4 million views. Let me do some quick ballparking. So five, let's say you're gonna get on a million 25. He might have got 10 grand for that video. That's right, $10,000. That's a. Let's call it five on the low end. $5,000. All to just make smarmy garbage fake news videos to manipulate a terrified low IQ audience.

[Ian Crossland]

You should take into account too all the audience that he's fear mongering to. Like, oh, hey everybody, I need your help. I need all these lawyer fees that I'm going to incur because of this. You know, you really need to. I just sent up a go send me. You know, you guys really need to send me money for my lawyer fees. I'm sure that I don't know that for sure, but that's usually what the follow up grift is here.

[Tim Pool]

End of an era. It is kind of weird. He gets massive swings. Like some videos just bomb miserably. This, I will say this is kind of weird. I mean, shout out to David Pack. He's a successful guy, I get it. But it's weird that some of his videos bomb miserably and then some get massive spikes because that's not normal for YouTube. It is.

[Phil Labonte]

It is abnormal with the one with him and David Hogg.

[Tim Pool]

Yet where's that one?

[Phil Labonte]

Down a little bit.

[Courtney Nil]

I wonder if it's like secondary media, like sharing 28,000, why they're getting. Some of them get much higher than others.

[Tim Pool]

I do think people need to consider that you don't know why or where views come from. So when you look at analytics for channels, one thing to consider is that shorts get substantially more views. So if you pull up anyone conservative, liberal, otherwise you're going to see huge spikes in their views. But check their shorts. It's probably when they launch shorts on their channel, which added views to their channel, what I will say is, for David or me or anybody else, sometimes what happens is a network might grab your video and embed it. And so like, however, whatever Drudge has going on, I don't know how big they are these days, but if they put your video on the front page and they have a million people watching, your video will get a massive amount of traffic. So that could be a reason why you see weird swings like that.

[Ian Crossland]

I found a lot of social media platforms, algorithms have been very fickle in the past couple of years. One thing that'll go viral one month, a couple of months later, it'll be something totally different. A lot of tweaking I've noticed on, on YouTube, on X, on Instagram. Everything also seems to be the crapization. Like everything's becoming tick tock. Like everything's becoming. Scroll up for another video. Even X, every, every platform has it and they, they have their own variety of it. We're seeing everything fuse into one, the same app.

[Tim Pool]

You know what is interesting too? Just like from being on David's channel right now, it's all Trump. Like most of it is Trump. Right. You've got Elon, you got Trump, you've got Carol Levitt. You got Trump. You got Trump. You got Trump. You got Trump. You got Trump. It's just 80, 90 Trump. But it is for us too. Literally. The only thing anybody cares about in the world right now is Donald Trump.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, that's the way that it was during his first term too.

[Ian Crossland]

It's crazy because there's so much going on. I think India and Pakistan might be going at it. But like, Trump said something though, inches.

[Phil Labonte]

Away from a nuclear war. Right. And, and, but it still is.

[Ian Crossland]

But a Democrat just said he wants to impeach Trump. So, you know, Americans care more about that.

[Tim Pool]

The first time we invited David Pakman on the show, he said he would do it for $5,000. And so we just kindly declined. And then about a year. I think it was a year ago now, we asked him to come on the show. He said yes, but he was busy with family stuff stuff. And then he never came on. Kyle Kalinsky said the same thing. He would come on, but he was busy with his schedule. And he tried and find time, but he never did. So we'd love to have Kyle Kalinsky on the show, but I don't know what happened to that guy. His brain turned to jello.

[Ian Crossland]

Him and Crystal, they. They. They fused their brains, but it did. The fusion didn't happen properly. And now they're just both.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I think what happens is if you take. If you take like three people who don't know each other, and let's say they're all slightly anti Trump or something, you lock them in a room and have them just talk to each other, and they will wind each other up rapidly over a period of time and then leave the most ardent anti Democrat, pro Trump crazy. So what I think happened to Kyle and Crystal Ball is they were. They were both kind of like rational. They got together and started going back and forth, and then they keep one upping until in their internal echo chamber, they went insane. And now Kyle routinely just insults Joe Rogan. It's so weird. He's. He was a frequent guest on the show, and he just started just attacking Joe one day, and it's like, bro, just. Just text him, like, what? I don't get it. Like, I'm pretty sure Joe mentioned on his show that he texts with Kyle. And then one day, Kyle started insulting the guy.

[Phil Labonte]

And, and, and he, like, Joe was instrumental in both Crystal Ball and Kyle Kalinsky's career. Right. Like, this is back when. When Joe was not hated by the left. He really helped Kyle out. He did the same thing with Sagar and. And Crystal Ball show, and now they just, you know, relentlessly trash him. It's. It's. It's disgusting.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta read this one from Shedrick Staley. Says Tim Bed Davidson covered the cause of the blackouts in Europe as well as Puerto Rico. Might want to give it a listen. You had him on your show once? We had him on our show twice. And he's the space weather guy. And he was predicting. This is why when the story happened of the power outage in Europe, I was like, oh, man. Because this dude's predicting that. He's. He's like, what is he, an astronomer? Space weather guy. He tracks solar flares. And he. And people kind of think. Think he's a little out there, but you talk to him and he's actually like, no, no, here's the math. And it's. It's very like mundane science stuff, but he's basically saying, we are. We are at some point due for a polar shift. The poles of the planet will shift. Something's gonna happen. It does happen. Look it up. This is not. And he thinks it's gonna happen soon. It's not like conspiracy stuff. It's. This actually does happen periodically. And the interesting thing is when they found the woolly mammoth frozen in the ice, it had undigested plant matter in its stomach, indicating it froze very quickly. And so I think it was him saying this that it's possible that the woolly mammoth was in a temperate climate. The poles shifted, and then this basically puts the equator where it was kind of warm into a colder region and then super cold, super quick. Crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

What was that movie that. That happened in? There was a. There was a Day or Tomorrow, I think so. And it just like. We're like. There was like waves that were freezing.

[Courtney Nil]

If that happens, I just hope that West Virginia is one of the warm places. I want to be the new equator.

[Tim Pool]

We would stay the same. So we talked about it. So basically what would happen is where if the poles flipped, I think the north and South Pole would become the equator, and then where we are would shift into the Southern Hemisphere. But because we're are kind of between the North Pole and the equator, we would still be in, like, a moderate zone, temperate climate. So it would just invert the seasons.

[Courtney Nil]

So instead of Florida being the popular place to go for the summer, you'd need to go to Maine.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. I think. I don't know. I have to ask him.

[Ian Crossland]

It's going to be Greenland.

[Tim Pool]

That's why Trump wants it. No, but, but, yeah, I think that's actually what he was saying, that the north and South Pole is going to tilt, and so they're going to be at the equator where it's warmer, and then the ice will melt, start freezing. It's going to be weird if it really did happen. I don't know, it sounds crazy because, you know, we tend not to believe in those things, like those big changes, but who knows? These power outages are freaky. They're saying it was a rare atmospheric phenomenon which fried the power grid. It was like the frequency of solar radiation or something. I don't know.

[Courtney Nil]

See, that's why stuff like that can happen. I don't know. People should have a little bit of stuff on hand that they can expect that that might happen.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, and, and if I understand correctly, Europe's power infrastructure is uniquely delicate. Well, maybe not uniquely, but it's extremely delicate and it was very close to a wiping out essentially all of Europe today. So all right, there's anything that we can. There's certainly not anything that we can do.

[Tim Pool]

But the Raptors talent says Phil, you sweet summer child. It's so much worse than you think. I will give you an anecdote of what the average American person is. On October 30, 2024 at 8:35pm she asked me, and I quote, are you going to kill me for not voting for Donald Trump? Because that is what he wants. There you go. What the average person thinks I have no idea. But I assume it's stuff like that. Trucking Pat says this is how democracy dies to the sounds of thunderous applause. Unless we can vote him out or kick him out. Indeed. Pike County Zombie Control says. Do you think Pritzker will show up to testify about sanctuary states? No. Well, maybe he wants to get as much television as he can so he might. Briflik says there's enough evidence for fraud on Act Blue for the processor to terminate their account. My business was dropped for less and legal. I'd be first in line for a class action discrimination to banks. Let's go. Kamikaze says Katie Hobbs Admin is under investigation. An Arizona Department of Agriculture state employee was just arrested for trying to smuggle Mexican nationals across the AZ border near Nogales. Charging them 7 to $12,000. Wow, that's crazy man. All right, let's see. We've gotten more requests ready to level up.

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[Tim Pool]

It's about the decay storm. If you have time, please cover the Buffalo schools covering up the sexual assault the angry cops is exposing. They had a community meeting. That was the. That was only. That was the only one they didn't.

[Phil Labonte]

Live stream odd and they did that today.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting.

[Phil Labonte]

It's pretty rough.

[Tim Pool]

Patriot Punk Network Says all politics is local. I cover and preach local politics. It's not glamorous, but is effective just as swampy. Indeed it is. Indeed. Renegade guardian says, make a deal with Newfoundland. They have all the rare minerals. They are also the Texas of Canada for guns. Is that true?

[Ian Crossland]

Newfoundland? It's next to Quebec, Northeast of it. No, we want Greenland. Maybe we can get Newfoundland too, but we got our eyes on Greenland, everybody.

[Tim Pool]

But Newfoundland's just Canada.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, the whole thing. I don't want Quebec.

[Tim Pool]

No, it's fine. The land is great, the people. We can just, you know, put them in camps.

[Ian Crossland]

We have to have. English has to be the national language by then.

[Tim Pool]

I never got. I said this before, but, man, when you go. When. When I make jokes about, like, invading Canada, they lose their minds. And I think it might be because they genuinely fear we'll do it.

[Ian Crossland]

The most cuck thing about Canada is how much they all do whatever Quebec wants constantly, because they'll threaten to leave.

[Tim Pool]

So I think I say, Trump, just suspend all trade with Canada. All of it, 100%.

[Ian Crossland]

All of Canadian politicians, national. Canadian politicians have to learn French only because of Quebec or they can't win national politics. I think it's hilarious. They're totally cucked by Quebec.

[Tim Pool]

It's the law. It's the law.

[Courtney Nil]

You know, I think one of the craziest things I've learned about Canada in the last year is that the places where they have so many polar bears, people aren't allowed to have guns.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, right.

[Courtney Nil]

And like, polar bears, they'll mess you up. And, yeah, the Canadians aren't allowed to have guns. That blows my mind.

[Tim Pool]

But I'm pretty sure if you're in, like, the Yukon territory or something, ain't nobody's gonna stop you from having a gun because there's nobody up there, so. But there was that. That viral video where the guy in the snowmobile, like, shot a polar bear. They say, if it's. If it's brown, get down. If it's black, fight back. If it's white, good night.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. You're doomed. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Polar bear will just kill you. Nothing you do about it. Polar bear's hungry. He'll eat whatever he can get. Misfit. Brett says as a snot, as a stenographer, I can tell you that courts make a specific record for illegal defendants and refer to a list of immigration neutral consequences that they often offer as pleas to avoid ice if the original charge is deportable. Wow. Send them back. If they're. If they jaywalk, be like, you have a $35 ticket for jaywalking. What say you? You're not guilty. Deported.

[Phil Labonte]

Get out of here.

[Tim Pool]

Goodbye. All right, we'll grab. What do we got time for one more. All right, what do we got? Let's see. Ooh. Value in you says. Hey, Illinois clown, how about focusing on lowering taxes, less regulation, fighting inflation, lowering crime, strengthening the border and national security, Instead of protests and megaphones. Sorry to make sense. It's why I don't live in Illinois anymore, my friends. All right, we're gonna go to that uncensored show, which we're gonna talk about some serious stuff. So smash that like, button, Share the show with everyone you know, head over to rumble.com timcast irl where that uncensored show will be. You gotta sign up as a Rumble Premium member using promo code TIM10. You'll get 10 bucks off your annual membership. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Courtney, do you want to shout anything out?

[Courtney Nil]

Yeah, I'm on X over at at Courtney. Nil. That's C O U R T N E Y K N I L L. I would also highly encourage you to go check out my campaign website that I made. I'm the only candidate in my race that even made a website that is nil for city council dot com. And if anyone would consider if I could grab a couple of donations, that would be great. Even if it's, you know, 20 bucks or something, I really want to be able to use the leverage that I have to win my campaign opponent, he has a lot more personal funding than I do, so I'm just the little guy here that needs some help. So.

[Tim Pool]

Right on.

[Ian Crossland]

Absolutely. Courtney, I commend you for putting yourself out there in this race, and I'm wishing you good luck in your race. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. My name is Alad Eliyahu. I'm the White House correspondent here at Tim Castle. You could find me at a lot Eliyahu on social media platforms. And tomorrow morning, I just got the daily schedule from the White house. There's an 8:30am Press briefing. So if you guys are up that early, check me out at the press briefing room with Caroline Levin. Hopefully she calls on me.

[Phil Labonte]

Tim cast White House correspondent a lot.

[Ian Crossland]

Eliah, isn't that crazy?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I wouldn't have believed it if you told me a couple months ago they.

[Tim Pool]

Did a special briefing today, didn't they?

[Ian Crossland]

Also at 8:30 in the morning. I think they moved earlier for what.

[Tim Pool]

They did a new media only briefing.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah. Completely separate from the daily not the daily briefing, but the usual press briefing. And it was in a different room.

[Tim Pool]

Why?

[Ian Crossland]

And I believe there was only like a dozen people there who were all handpicked to be there. As I understand why I I don't know, it was strange I wasn't invited.

[Phil Labonte]

So just as long as it bothers the legacy media, I'm happy with it. I am Phil that remains on Twix. I'm filler remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. Our new record is called Antifragile. It's available on YouTube, Apple Music, Pandora, Spotify, Deezer, you know, the Internet. And don't forget the left lane is for crying.

[Tim Pool]

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