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Democrat NAZI SCANDAL Erupts, Trump Says THEY CHEATED In California w/ J. Chase Davis
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Jay Chase Davis
Hey, thanks so much for having me on. Author of Offensive Christianity. I actually got this copy for you.
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Carter
Right on.
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Jay Chase Davis
Right now.
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Carter
Slide it on over.
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Jay Chase Davis
There you go.
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Carter
Appreciate it. Yeah. What's it about? Who are you? What do you do?
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Jay Chase Davis
I'm a pastor at the well Church in Boulder, Colorado. Also podcast at Foolproof Theology. But I wrote this book for men. I'm a pastor. I want strong Christian men in our nation. And it's one of the biggest issues facing our nation right now is kind of a dearth of strong ambitions, agenic men who know their place. And unfortunately, the church has not helped them. Many churches you go to are very feminized and want to get into therapy and, you know, really suppress the nature of men. And so it's kind of walking through that and. And giving men practical applications on how they can be strong.
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Carter
Right on. Well, great to have you. We got the boys hanging out.
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Tate
Tate's here, I'm here, and I'm happy to be here. We got the great Phil as well.
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Phil
Hello, everybody. I'm Phil. Nice to see you.
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Carter
Carter. What's up, everyone?
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Tate
I'm Carter.
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Carter
And let's get into it. We got the story from the New York Times. It is a major scandal. Several women who dated Graham Platner recall unsettling behavior. What I love about the female coded New York Times is the lead they choose. Now, I think for most People, the real story here is that he's an admitted Nazi, knows he's a Nazi, is proud of being a Nazi, was a Nazi for 18 years. And they're like, yeah, yeah, but he was unsettling towards women. Cause that's the most important thing to women, I guess. So when you actually take a look at the secondary reporting on this, we've got this from town hall. Graham Platner bombshell details. He knew the tattoo was a Nazi symbol and called it, quote, my Totenkopf. His unit picked the SS death set on purpose. They were killers. Joked about it being a Nazi tattoo while dating three exes. Called him toxic, demeaning. Heavily drinking and cheating. The New York Times story delayed by his own lawyers. X blocked her from leaving rooms. Uncontrollable fits of anger. One woman said, collateral damage to the world that is his. Called exes to vouch for him before story dropped. Obsessed with rape and bruised women. So, yeah, now I honestly don't care. He's a bad guy. There's a lot of bad guys. What I'm principally concerned about is what does this mean for Democrats moving into the midterms. If Graham Platner sinks the Democrats in Maine, it will be impossible for Democrats to win the Senate. I want to stress that Democrats will have to win every swing state and flip at least one Republican state already sounding impossible. But you take Maine out of the equation because the front runner for the Democrats is a Nazi woman beater, and you're going to have admittedly a weak Republican, but a Republican in the Senate, which means Democrats will not be able to secure control. Now, you factor in. The Supreme Court recently ruled that Alabama is clear to redistrict and the current swing in the House is Republican districts. 211 to 2 was it? I think 205 Democrat Republicans need to win much less in these swing districts in order to keep control of the House. For the life of me, I don't understand why anyone would think Democrats hate. Have the probability to win in these midterms. This scandal, it's silly, it's laughable. Platner's a Nazi guy. We get it. But the big picture, Democrats are cooked. They. They're supposed to win. A historical trend defeating the. The. The. The party in power to be the opposition. And it's looking like that won't happen. But I'm curious what y' all guys think.
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Tate
Yeah, well, it's made. It's hilarious because the Democrats like they're. They're a line in the sand for all these Guys is if they're just like, creepy around women. I mean, I know grand planners like actual rape threats, but, like, before the rape accusations even came into play, they were just like, he has problematic behavior on women. That's enough for him to go.
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Phil
And men, it was.
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Tate
Yeah, and it was the same thing with Swalwell. Like, Swalwell literally was like, quite literally in bed with a Chinese spy. And they were like, that's. That's what. What you can't, you know, where you're not allowed to, you know, have a little, like, yellow fever once in a while.
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Carter
Who among us.
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Tate
Exactly. But then as soon as was like, he's kind of creepy and problematic around women, they're like, you're done. So it's like, you know, as a right winger, I'm hesitant. It's like dogpile in these situations. But at the same time, it is kind of like a taste your own medicine, which I'm perfectly happy with.
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Phil
I mean, I don't know. I don't know if I'd say a taste. You're on. The Democrats have been so focused on women's issues. The way they treated Kavanaugh about, you know, when it came to completely fabricated stories, I mean, you know, people were. One of the Democrats was. Was talking to. To Kavanaugh. I saw a post on X about this that reminded me he was asking about, like, farting or something like that. Like the kind of minutiae they were getting into when it came to Kavanaugh. And now to just brush this aside. It's unsurprising. It only adds credibility to the idea that Democrats are only interested in power. There is no desire for any kind of virtue or anything. So when they do point their fingers at whether it be. Be, you know, any. Any Republican or specifically Donald Trump, it is totally reasonable. In fact, it is the preferred course of action to just disregard anything they say and don't worry about it. They're gonna make a. They're gonna make a mountain out of a molehill. They're gonna do everything they can to slime you. Just ignore them and continue doing what you're gonna do. Whether what. And that. And that goes for the same thing for policy as well.
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Jay Chase Davis
They. They've been totally taken over by feminism. I mean, their. Their whole framework for all of this is just projection and feminism and men is been doing. And this is why they're going to continue to lose young men who are swinging to the right and conservative and going back to church, and they're going to continue to attract women particularly single women into their party. But they have no categories for like what you said. It's just total hypocrisy on their part. Right. They, they will celebrate, you know, strong women and they'll look, overlook a lot of blatant corruption in their own party. And yet when stuff like this happens, they have no concept of what to do. And it's because they become feminized completely.
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Phil
The, the, the term hyp, I, I don't know that that's particularly useful in this context because it's not about they, that it's not about the fact that they actually have any kind of moral compass or anything. It's not, it's simply, it's okay for us. It's hierarchy.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah.
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Phil
When people that agree with us behave badly. It's perfectly acceptable. It's perfectly acceptable that Hunter Biden was doing crack. It's perfectly acceptable that Hunter Biden had, had, you know, illegal guns. It's perfectly acceptable that the Ukraine war was basically a slush fund for the Biden administration or for the, for the Biden family. It's perfectly acceptable. But if it's a Republican, well then they're going to go ahead and clutch their pearls and they're going to say this and that. So it's like I said earlier, just ignore them to chase this.
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Tate
I mean, it is true that like when this sort of situation plays out now, this is at least the second high profile instance of this happening in the last few months. It kind of short circuits them because I think to your point, that is kind of like one of the core planks of the Democrat party in which they understand that, look, a lot of our power now comes from women. And so again, if you are to encroach on that power vector at all, you're going to be in serious trouble. This is why it's short circuits when they're presented with something like this. Because typically what happens is what you're saying is if they engage in something corruption related or you name it, they just sweep it under the rug. And the Republicans do it. They bring the knives out. But this does show that there are aspects of being a Democrat that you must maintain. And one of these is like being a wholesome Chungus, you know, respect, respectful guy. If you demonstrate that you're too heterosexual, it's a huge problem. It's a huge problem.
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Phil
Well, I mean, but grand PL's clearly not too heterosexual. He said that he would rape a guy.
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Tate
But that's. You look, that's just, that's a power play.
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Phil
That's exactly what he said.
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Jay Chase Davis
But I think, I think you're right that it's, they're about power and they're, they're totally willing to overlook their own offenses or anything like that. But for the general public, right, it's very apparent that they're like, this kind of stuff just exposes them completely and they're not honest at all.
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Phil
What would you say to someone that says, look, the general public just feels like this is standard procedure in D.C. it doesn't matter whether it's a Republican or a Democrat, because generally Americans are not happy with D.C. they're not happy with the people in D.C. and so whether it be, you know, staffers having sex, you know, gay staffers having sex in, in the, you know, Senate chambers or what have you, or Graham Platner or what, what have you, the American people are kind of just like, yeah, that's what they do. It's almost like the American people look at, you know, D.C. like, you know, District 1 or the Capitol.
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Carter
I, I actually think those two guys having gay sex in the Senate is like the best argument that there's going to be a civil war. Because aside, like, it's, it's shockingly offensive and in a disturbing, disturbingly hilarious kind of way. But I would just say, and I mean this in a half joking kind of manner, when your Senate building has people having gay sex and filming it and nothing happens, Nothing. You don't have a country anymore. I'm sorry, because I just want to stress. You guys think that was the only time it happened.
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Tate
Wouldn't that be an argument against civil war? Because if that happened, like Nigeria, they'd have a different name right now. Like, they would just pulverize the Parliament building there. Like, if that were to happen over there, where in the United States, everyone's like, yeah, that's just kind of how things operate over there.
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Carter
No, I think that's exactly the argument. Something so shockingly offensive to your country that you would demolish the building and be like, this is what our country stands for versus half the country is shocked, but no one will do anything about it.
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Phil
It's not shocking and offensive to, to at least a large enough segment of the United States. And the fact that they had, you know, when you look at the, the LGBT party, they had on the White House lawn where they had dude taking his fake breasts out and another, you know, like on the White House lawn, like this, this, this kind of debauchery, this kind of just deviant behavior. I'm. And look I'm a guy that's been in a band for 25 years. I've done my fair share of, of, of lewd and lascivious behavior, but even I can see that this kind of stuff is just unacceptable behavior.
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Tate
Yeah, but, but to your point, I mean, I think what's being demonstrated with this story is that they have a lower threshold for. For what? Like, behavior is considered beyond the pale because, like, when the Thomas Massie stuff started coming out, even the most ardent Thomas Massie opponents weren't really harping on that as like a reason why he shouldn't win his seat back. They were mainly focusing on like, policy related matters or other sort of things that Trump, et cetera. If that sort of scandal broke out with a Democrat, I think that would be enough to get them bounced. I mean, I don't know what you think.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, I think that, to Tim's point, I think that a lot of people are scandalized by it, but they don't know what to do power wise about it because the Democrats have a stronghold. And that's why it's super important for men especially to become agenic, to become men who know where power lies, how to get power, how to accrue power and how to leverage power. A lot of the American people feel powerless, whether it's economically, spiritually, whatever, and when they're desecrating these, these civil sites with just degeneracy like this, a lot of people, the reason they don't care is because they're like, well, what am I going to do? That's D.C. and that's why it's important to get men raised up who are capable of not getting into a civil war, I would not prefer that outcome at all. But to know how political machines operate to get them into power, to get them into positions where that kind of crime and heinous sin could be punished.
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Tate
I mean, because this is why people have coined the term demoralization porn. Because what happens specifically on Twitter is there's these people that will just. There's like this account Radio Genoa, and he just. Power. He just, you know, pile drives all day long. He's like, he'll post a video of like, you know, a Swedish woman with like a bunch of like African migrants. And he'd be like, this could be your daughter. And like, if you were to question him on it, he would be like, well, I'm trying to wake up the masses. And I'm like, I think every man in the United States and broadly the west kind of understands what's going on. They just don't understand what the, like, actual proper, like, mechanisms are to actually attempt to deconstruct it. So when you show them that, they're like, I know, I know, trust me, I'm clued in. I know what the problem is. And you keep hitting them with that over and over again. All that says to them is, actually, there's nothing you can do about.
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Jay Chase Davis
There's nothing you can do. Yeah, hold it over their head.
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Phil
And I think that's part of the reason why people tend to be frustrated with Trump, right? So they see all of this stuff and they want some.
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Jay Chase Davis
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Tate
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Carter
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Tate
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Carter
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Tate
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Carter
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Phil
Start your free trial@shopify.com they wanted to see some kind of release of something to be done about the. The things that they see in D.C. that are problems. And when Trump doesn't have the ability or the authority to just go in and say, you know, you're fired, you're fired, you're fired. Whether it be because of procedure in D.C. or because the president just can't make those kind of calls, whatever it is, they get frustrated and they're like, well, Trump's not the guy. Trump can't do it. You know, and the Republicans or blah, blah. And Tate uses this phrase all the time. Even though Donald Trump is the most viable political vehicle for the right, there's. People are just jumping ships saying, well, throw my hands up. There's nothing that can be done to. Again, to taste point. There's nothing that can be done. We can't fix it. So, you know, I'm just going to focus on my video games or focus on what?
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Carter
Well, I. I think there's no unified culture anymore. I think the younger generation has no unified culture. It's funny because we made the joke the other day talking about music, like, oh, man, the 90s music era, it's the best. And, you know, we get these callers on the show, and it's like, I'm a millennial. What was the best song of the 90s? Tate doesn't know what that is.
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Tate
It's actually kind of the Opposite problem is that we end up having to like, dig back up the 90s to find sort of a viable culture. Scott Greer, he's like combating this all the time, where he'll have Zoomers coming to his mentions and they'll be like, blockbuster was the greatest thing ever. And Scott would be like, a, you weren't there. B, it's actually a very innocuous thing that just kind of exemplified what like the lower middle class lifestyle would be like in the United States. So the fact that you glamorized, that demonstrates something so seriously wrong with Zoomer culture. Because in the past people would have. Because, well, think about people that grew up in the 90s. They glamorized Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know, they glamorized like Hollywood stars, top athletes, musicians, where like Zoomers will just go back to the 90s and they're like, what was a normal middle class life? Like, yeah, that's what I'm glamorizing now. And I think that indicates to your point. One, the culture is completely disunified. There's nothing new that we can grasp onto and say that's ours. But then B, it also shows how bad things have gotten that they just view like a normal middle class American life in a stable suburb that as like a dream.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, they're desperate for meaning. And as our country has become flooded with illegal immigrants and our culture has become degr. Degradated spiritually, where people have no connection to eternal things, the things of God, they're look desperate for meaning. So they're going to latch on to something like Blockbuster or, you know, Halo or something that think about malls. You see these videos of, of malls that used to be full of nice people who are walking around with their families. I remember doing that when I was a kid. But the. This younger generation has no concept of that. And it's because it's not only a material crisis, it's a spiritual crisis for these young men that are looking for meaning and can't find it anywhere. Not being given meaning in public schools or anywhere else.
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Carter
Yeah, it's your point about malls. There's actually like videos on YouTube where it's just like POV, you're in a mall in 1990.
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Tate
Literally, it's the creepiest thing now is seeing gen alpha glamorized 2016. And like, that would have been my. The Zoomer prime would have been 2016. And so I've always had this like, thing as a Zoomer where I'm trying to retcon millennials lives And I'm trying to retcon and say the 90s look like the best time ever. Where it's like, actually the 90s had a lot of the same problems, but now you're seeing Gen Alphas that are like, wow, imagine being a teenager in the pre Covid era. Like, how amazing would that have been? And I sat there and I lived through it. And I was like, I mean, it was all right, but you know, it's kind of sad to see that they think that's the greatest thing ever. And I lived through it. I'm like, it was fine, but it wasn't like the top of human civilization.
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Carter
The reason why I think this is a problem that this is what I would say is this is a problem that can't be solved. And it's something that we need to pay attention to. But I don't know we can do anything about in that Millennials are fighting for something. Gen X's are fighting for something. Boomers are fighting for something. Gen Z is fighting for what they think maybe millennials had. Yeah, Gen Alpha is fighting, kind of. But my point ultimately is Boomers, Gen Xers and millennials have a small overlap in a shared experience of the 80s and 90s. For millennials, as little kids barely remembering it, but kids into the 90s, society shifted dramatically in the 2000s and started to fracture and break apart substantially. More so in the 2010s and now into the 2020s, it's who knows what, especially with COVID When you look at Gen Alpha and Gen Z, there's no world that they want to preserve or they want to have. Right. When you mentioned, like Gen Z, there's actually been a bunch of studies and articles about this. Gen Z is nostalgic for an era they did not live in. So I suppose you could say that there are some that are fighting for something similar to what everybody is fighting for. But the way I see it is when you take a look at voting patterns, you take a look at media interest, when you take a look at political interest, it is the younger you get, the more fractured and spread out it is. Which is one of the things I've warned about in terms of the potentiality for civil war, in that liberal boomers and Republican boomers overlap almost entirely in their political worldview. Similarly for Gen X and millennials, but they slowly start to come apart. Gen Z is where you start to see that there are two distinct moral worldviews isolated from each other and Gen Alpha to a more extreme degree. And then within Those pockets, you have your own versions of left and right. So what happens then when you know, someone who's 20 years old today thinks a woman is whatever a person, a person claims it to be, and that babies aren't alive until three months after they're born, and they try implementing and passing laws in this way. What happens when you get these young people who grow up on antifa violence and they say this is the path towards victory and they want communism? You have such shockingly disparate worldviews. You will get violence because of it.
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Jay Chase Davis
Well, they've broken the nation. I mean, when Obergefell passed and they disintegrated marriage as marriage between a man and a woman, this is what you have. Because marriage is the foundation of any nation. This is how ethnicities form. This is how nations form is from marriage. And, and when they passed Obergefell, they broke it wide open.
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Carter
Well, first of all, they didn't pass it.
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Jay Chase Davis
Right.
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Carter
The Supreme Court just decided.
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Jay Chase Davis
They decided they'd make it out marriage.
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Carter
Yeah.
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Tate
After California objected. Out of all states.
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Carter
Yeah. But, but, but I would actually argue that the cultural problems happened before that. Well, sure. You can't have Obergefell unless you have a society willing to say yes to that. Right.
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Tate
I think Obergefell is when the government institutionalized those cultural.
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Carter
For sure.
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Jay Chase Davis
And it was all happening through, like, you're right, it was happening through media before that, it was soft selling all these relationships, all this lifestyle before that to where when it did happen, nobody. There was nothing happened. If there was a civil war, that would have happened. It would have been.
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Carter
But, you know, I wouldn't point to just one thing like that, though. I'd say it's a component because really, it's just the idea of not having kids. And that created a generation of people with no ties to the future and nothing but selfishness. So you have a combination of factors. The financial crisis played a big role for someone like me. I'm, you know, I actually grew up, though we were a moderately liberal family. We were. We were Catholic initially, and family was very important and we understood this and I always valued it. But the financial situation put me in an inability. I mean, I was sleeping on floors when I was in my early 20s. There was no circumstance in which I could have a kid at all. In the inverse, the people who actually had the means, they just told all these young men to go get abortions, not have kids. Kids are bad, kids are destroying the planet. Then when there is not enough people to enter the workforce to sustain Our either Social Security or just general economy, they say open the borders and flood the country. Now you get tens of millions of people who don't share your values and you create a country where the Trump base is the last vestige of the American tradition. And everyone else is saying, get your bag before the system crumbles. That's what it feels like where we're at.
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Phil
It does feel like people are doing everything they can to, you know, enrich themselves before things fall apart and not to turn this into or not to, you know, drag it off into an economy talk. But like, when you see the way that the government's spending money and you see the way that Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid are being being treated and you hear things like I heard on what's his name, Caleb Hammer's financial audit, maybe a week ago, he had a transgender person on that had breast implants paid for by the state through Social Security, through Medicare. That is insane. And so it makes perfect sense that people would be like, it's over, man. I'm just going to get as much as I can because this is going to blow up. They're only going to keep importing, you know, illegals. Donald Trump can't get as many out. We need to get out. Even though the Republican Party, Donald Trump and his administration have made, you know, significant progress when it comes to illegal immigration, there's basically no illegal immigration. You know, no one's coming over the border at all. They are deporting people. Not in the numbers that I would like, but they are deporting people. There are people that are self deporting. They're making it harder for people to stay here. They're looking at ways to make sure they can't get bank accounts and all kinds of different methods to, to get illegals to leave. So that way we don't have the massive ICE raids that we had that caused such a hubbub earlier this year and last year. Even though all those things are happening, they' like, oh, well, you know, he. There's still people that are coming into the country. There's still all these economic problems. We're still giving away all this money and we've got all these people that are committing fraud that we don't seem to be able to actually clean up. It makes perfect sense where people are just like, well, I guess I'm going to get mine. You know, I was, I used to be very much a, a deficit hawk. I used to be a libertarian. I don't consider myself a libertarian anymore. But like I used to think, you know, we've got to stop this, we got to stop this. And at this point, and you know, basically when Covid hit, I was like, all right, they're just going to keep printing. You know, they printed so much money. Both Biden and Trump printed so much money. And I was like, there's, there's no stopping it. There's being on board the whole fiscal hawk thing and trying to get the people to understand that all these problems are going to, you know, they're going to blow up the dollar and inflation's going to go through the roof or what have you. It's pointless, it's a waste of energy, the government's never going to do it. The incentives aren't there, so why bother worrying about it?
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, I think a lot of this, I mean, I address this directly in my book. So it's not just Obergefell and it's not just money. It goes back to a fundamental understanding of human nature. And what, what I like to say is that modern solutions require pre. Modern, modern problems require premodern solutions. And what we need to do is get back to a basic understanding of what men were made for. What men were made for, because a lot of these young men are looking for meaning. They don't know what they were made for. People are confused on men and women today. And men need to be told directly that they were made for glory. They were made to find glory in Jesus Christ. This is what our founders knew. And if we're going to have our country again, it's going to look like that. It's going to look like men coming back to Christ, returning to him. And it's not going to be a weak Christianity. You see so many young men veering into ideologies that are un American or whatever it may be. And instead of coming back to Christ, they get into that stuff. And I'm trying to say in my book, look, this goes back to the Enlightenment. This has been baked into the cake this whole time. And the fruit of no fault divorce, Obergefell, all this kind of stuff was baked into kind of a separation of body and soul that God made us body and soul as integrated beings destined for glory, eternal glory in him that can only be found in Christ. But men have a drive about them.
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Carter
Well, so this country was Christian dominated for a long time, patriarchal. Why did Christian men give it up?
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Jay Chase Davis
Christian men gave it up. I don't know if they gave it up so much as what, they let
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Carter
it get taken from them or it
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Jay Chase Davis
got infected through a lot of movements, particularly like pietism. Piety is great. We want Christian men and all men to be pious and righteous and holy. Jesus honors this. This can only be found in Christ. Ultimately we should live it out. But pietism made men retreat inward. So a lot of the existentialist Subjectivism from the 19th century, German higher criticism, all of which is addressed in the book, it comes to full bloom in the 20th century. And evangelicalism just adopted a lot of this. So a lot of the. You talked about the evangelical base and kind of that being kind of a lone bulwark of sorts against the moral insanity. A lot of it got compromised at elite institutions through seminaries. This is what the communists understood well in the mainline church was that the useful idiots were the clergy and they would just go along with these ideologies. And so as America got wealthy and as evangelicals compromised and they put their main emphasis on being non offensive to the world, we're not going to speak the truth because we don't want to upset the lost person down the street. You can only play that game so long once the lost person down the street is cutting off their genitals and you still won't say something, you won't say that's bad, don't do that. In fact, we should make a law to say you can't do that to yourself. If the church is unwilling to do that, of course we're going to keep going this direction. I'm trying to call men back to like, hey, where are the pulpits? Where are the Christians that are willing to speak up about very clear moral issues and especially towards men the church has compromised, telling them they're toxic, bad, they go to church and it's therapeutic and it's kind of faking gay.
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Carter
I wonder if I like just to caveat what I'm about to say with obviously you're seeking to solve for what I'm about to say, but it feels like Christianity is going to just get wiped out. And I'm not, I'm saying that to be a bit shocking. But you take a look at Europe, you take a look at the United States, Christian men that are strong and willing to stand up and defend their worldview and their religion are few and far between. In Islam it's quite the opposite almost, I think, what is it? More than half, they did a bunch of polls and they found that like more than half believe that violence is a justified end dealing with apostates and non believers and things like this. So you take a look at what Christians have been willing to do over the past couple of decades. And the nations that were once dominated by Christianity are just being run over. And you take a look at Islamic nations and they're doing the running over.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah. And this is why Elon Musk tweeted that Christianity has become toothless. It seems like there's no agency, no power, no willingness to defend their way of life, which is what all of our forefathers understood. It's what gave them the spiritual backing to fight the Revolutionary War and justify their existence and really move westward. So, no, Christianity won't go away. It may go into a season of decline for, for, for a while, but that's never the way it's worked. I mean, we saw this with the fall of Rome, the Roman Empire. This is what Augustine wrote the City of God about, because a lot of people were actually back then. It's a similar thing that happens today in some circles. A lot of people were accusing the Christians of being the reason the Roman Empire fell, which of course is not true. There were many other reasons, but Augustine was making an apologetic back then for why Christianity was actually surpassed the Roman Empire in terms of eternal destiny and gave people a, a vision of a heavenly city. And so Christianity has gone through this before. It's not going away. But I'm trying to speak practically to right now, if we can get Christian men to understand their purpose in life and stop entertaining sermons and music. I mean, I grew up in the Christian church, and a lot of it was just feminine. It was feminine stuff. And if they can understand what they were made for, why they have a competitive drive, why they want to dominate, why they want to win, why they want to beat competition, all this stuff, Christianity and Christ does not come in and say, be a woman. Don't do any of that stuff. Our forefathers understood this. That is why they were able to fight. That is why they were able to defend their way of life. And so I think we can have our country back if everybody would read this book. But that's, that's kind of my pitch.
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Carter
Let's, let's go to this next story from Newsweek. Trump accuses Democrats of cheating in California over slow vote counts. Well, Trump's got two posts on Truth Social, and he says there's big cheating by the Dumo Crats Democrats in California, he wrote, and they say without providing evidence, he did when he mentioned it's taking weeks to count the vote. Votes are all tied up, may not be in for weeks, under investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in L A. It is unclear whether the President has ordered the investigation. He mentioned what he said he did. I guess the argument is maybe they were already doing it. Newsweek onto the White House for more information. Quote, they are trying to steal the Governor of California primary and the Mayor of LA primary away from two great Republican candidates. Trump said, here we go with the very late and massive number numbers of mail in ballots. Now I've got this tweet I want to show you. Useless Tree just pointed out. If the remaining 38% of votes cast for the LA mayor are all allocated the same proportion as the last batch that came in, Nithya Rahman will come to within 100 votes of Spencer Pratt. This is so precise that it appears those doing the counting know the rate at which they need to proportion the votes to eliminate Pratt. And I would say, uh huh, yes. Why would, why should anybody believe an election is legitimate when they have weeks behind the curtains to count votes? You can't see, you see, you do the ballot all in one day. It's hard to cheat. People are sitting around outside, you got to count them. You only got a few hours. But when you have weeks to do, it might be easy to find some ballots. The other interesting thing about the results that are now coming in from LA county is that LA county is a single electoral jurisdiction. Yet for some reason the mail in votes that are coming in deviate from the actual ballots previously, the early vote count. Considering you are taking a singular county and all of its votes and counting them, the proportions should not change. Now for the Governor's race, it's a different story. If a batch of votes from San Francisco comes in, you can expect it to be 90% Democrat. And then if something from Tulare comes in, you can expect it to be 90% Republican. That makes sense. So you might say a new batch came in from a liberal jurisdiction and they heavily favored Democrats. But what about LA County? How does that make sense? A new batch came in from the same county, but this time Spencer Pratt's losing and it took us a week to find these ballots and count them. So I would argue that there is cheating, but what they do is ballot harvesting. I wouldn't be. I would say first and foremost, collecting a ballot from a nursing home is not a legitimate election. Sending out activists to collect ballots is not, is not advocating that individuals support a candidate for leadership. It's a procedural win. I would call that cheating. It's not the spirit. But as for the law, I'd also make the argument that Many of these returned bouts probably are coming from houses where the individuals no longer live. So this was what was accused back in 2020 pertaining to universal mail in voting and ballot harvesting activists shows up to a house, they're getting paid five, ten bucks to ballot harvest. You know, you get five bucks per ballot. You return. They say, the knock on the door, did you send in your mail and vote? No, I didn't. Well, why don't you fill it out, I'll take it back for you. They go, well, I also got these three others. Don't worry, we'll take those too. I would, I would be willing to bet the probability that Democrat activists are forging loose universal ballots that get sent to random addresses from people who are no longer registered there, I'd be willing to bet that's actually happening. How do you investigate that, though? How do you prove it? It's very difficult.
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Phil
Yeah. I mean, it's, it's very tiring to continuously see the same type of, the same type of phenomenon. Right. There's an election day, then the, the powers that be in whatever the jurisdiction is say, okay, we're not going to be able to finish counting the ballots today. It's going to take a couple of weeks. And then there is an, a front runner or someone that's in a position that is an opposing party to the Democrats. And slowly you see the lead get picked away. And the only thing that you ever hear is, well, you know, you have to have these mail in ballots, you have to have the, the, you know, the ballot harvesting, you have to get every vote when there's no way to verify that these votes are real, that they aren't just people, you know, sitting some back room writing them up or what have you. And again, I don't know the method by which they're doing this, but it's a consistent pattern over and over and over, whether it be the election, whether it be a presidential election or whether it be state and local. You don't see that in Florida they're done the same day. Because the 2000 election was such a sham and such a mess. They were like, this is never going to happen again. And Florida, Ron DeSantis has, has made, you know, made the, made it clear that he will do whatever he can to help any state that wants to get the system that Florida has in place in their states. Democrats don't want it because I truly believe it's because Democrats have figured out the way to rig the elections.
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Jay Chase Davis
But it also seems like Republicans don't want it because they won't pass the SAVE act. Like, if they would pass the SAVE act, wouldn't this solve everything?
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Phil
I don't know if it would solve everything or not. It would definitely help. And I think that there's. There's only a handful of Republicans and I think that that's because of. Because of Capitol Hill. Yeah. Bureaucracy, stuff like.
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Tate
Yeah. I don't know what the SAVE act actually, I don't know if it impacts state elections, but something that must be noted. Most obvious point that could ever be made is that this is not normal. But it's like, you should keep this in mind. India, 1.3 billion people. And we all know India, you know, they have some problems going on over there. Takes six weeks for them to collect or to vote. They have a six week voting window. Fair enough. If you want your early votes, that's fine, you can have them. We'll have six weeks. Everyone in India over six weeks votes. And then on one day they count every single ballot. And by the time India is going to sleep, a country of 1.3 billion people, they know what the results of the.
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Jay Chase Davis
In India.
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Phil
India. Yeah.
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Tate
So in one day they're able to. And that's on election day. So, you know, they have a six week voting period, but most people turn up on election day. 1.3 billion people, they have pretty high turnout and by the end of the night they all know what the results are.
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Phil
And to your point about the SAVE Act, I mean, whether or not it would fix everything, the idea that you shouldn't have an ID to vote or you don't need an ID to vote, The United States is unique in that. Every other country you have to show your id.
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Carter
Yeah.
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Phil
I mean, every other country, there are people that are pretty far left that I've talked to on the Internet that are like, yeah, that are, that are not Americans. And they're like, yeah, that seems silly. We have to show idiots.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah. I saw some people joking that they were going to drive to L. A and vote for Pratt out of state because apparently it's legal there.
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Tate
And India comes up again. I mean, are we seriously having to like take election? You know, inspiration from India?
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Carter
Clearly.
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Tate
Everything called an EPIC card in India. So they have a separate ID that is required to vote. It's administered by their electoral commission, their National Electoral Commission. So you take an EPIC card to the ballot with you and that's India. And I mean, again, it's like if they're able to pull this off and they use electronic voting, so it's all done in one day. What could possibly be the explanation for the United States, even in Europe? I mean, Europe far to the. A lot of these countries in mainland Europe, far to the left of the United States, they have like, you know, they have id. They're able to get the results by the time they go to bed. Like, this is not rocket science here. But again, most obvious point in the world is what's going on here is just obvious thumb on the scale. I think everyone's been ranting and raving about it so long that it's kind of desensitized us to the. The fact that, like, literally we don't have fair elections, the United States. And that's like something that when you utter that, when you utter we do not have fair elections in a democracy, you should be like, trembling when you say that because that quite literally means the foundation of your country, the thing that you're buying into doesn't exist. But on conservative shows, we just say it so much and President Trump says it so much that it kind of loses his punch. But like, when I say that, when I say we do not have fair, legitimate elections in our largest state in our country, that should be like a terrifying proposition. We just say like, yeah, I know all the fixes in, you know, it is what it is.
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Phil
Well, I mean, that goes back to the point earlier that we were talking about where people are just kind of like checking out. They're just like, well, I guess there's nothing we can do about it.
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Jay Chase Davis
Right?
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Phil
You know, when, when your population feels so impotent to be able to do anything, you know, you do it, say people off. Well, I guess there's nothing I can do.
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Tate
You know, Pratt is popular enough and I think he's demonstrated such a. Just how a politician ought to be and going into the 21st century that I would imagine, you know, based on what I know of the Trump administration, the people staffing it, they're fully aware that Spencer Pratt and a normal election would be, you know, at least politically viable. Right. I mean, LA is very liberal place, obviously, so it's not safe. You know, it's not fair to say he would win in a landslide like some people said, but it would, it would be fair to say Rick Caruso, the last, you know, right wing candidate in Los Angeles, not right, he's a centrist, ran out as a Democrat. He lost by about 10 points. I think he got about 43% of the vote or 44% of the vote. That's Rick Caruso. God, no one even knows what he looks like or sounds like. Spencer Pratt. He's on everyone's television. By all accounts, very popular. All this to say, I think there's people within the Trump administration that, as we speak, are combing through what options the Trump administration would have, again, if they were truly convinced that this election in Los Angeles is fraudulent. So I don't think it would be fair to say that, you know, what some people are gonna say is Trump should go do something about it. I. I'm fairly certain that they're going to comb through whatever they have at their disposal. Because this is another thing that's parroted on conservative talk shows, is that, well, it's Los Angeles. Who cares? You know, we should fight for. It's like, that's the second biggest city in the country. 30% of it, give or take, are still Republicans. They have the right to fair governance, even if we maybe think the Democrats don't deserve anything. In addition to that, there's still a lot of capital concentrated, whether it's like fiscal capital or quite literally cultural capital that's concentrated in Los Angeles County. No, the United States won't be great if California is not great. I know that's like a really freezing cold take to hear with. And this is coming from me. I'm from Tennessee. You think I want. You know, do you think I'm a big fan of California? Not really. But I do understand that we need New York City firing on all cylinders. We need Los Angeles firing on all cylinders, because when our country was great, those two cities were quite nice places, and they certainly pushed above their weight.
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Carter
It doesn't feel like the Trump administration is doing everything they can be doing as it pertains to election rigging and ballot harvesting. Certainly the redistricting is good. Trump has applied pressure. But it would seem that, at least on the surface, I feel like, to the right, to a regular person, the efforts in the Trump administration to deal with electoral issues is for Trump to say things.
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Tate
Well, I think. Well, I partially, I understand why people would say that. But to be fair to Trump, this would require an act of Congress. He's endorsed the SAVE Act. He said, like, multiple times, you'll primary people that are opposed to the SAVE Act. He came through on that promise with, you know, John Cornyn seemed to be one of the guys jamming up the SAVE Act. You know, he weighed in, endorsed Ken Paxton. Brilliant by Ken Paxton, by the way. In addition to that, Trump is trying to ram through an EO where if the SAVE act fail, it's Basically dead save act's not gonna happen. He is trying to ram through an eo. That's all he can really do.
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Carter
You mean the post office one?
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Tate
Yeah.
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Carter
He did it and he won, didn't he?
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Tate
Yeah, but it doesn't quite have the same like degree. It doesn't have the, quite the same scope as the voter.
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Carter
Where's the infrastructure in the Trump administration to be dealing with these things? I mean, look, I am excited to see Bill Pulte as dni. It's gonna get real interesting. Todd Blanche, Trump says he's gonna, he's gonna move him forward as just ag. He's gonna nominate him for ag. These are good, good things. So I am excited, I'm hoping based on what we've seen right now, actually, let's, let's do this. Let's pull up the, let's pull up the story and get into it. We got this from Mediaite. Karl Rove reveals why Democrats polling lead might not be enough for a blue wave. Now take him at his word. I guess the point Karl Rove brings up is that Democrat favorability is lower than Republicans right now, where historically they should have a double digit lead. This is absolutely crazy. You then factor in, this is the, this is the current map, congressional map. 211 seats are Republican, 205 are Democrat. This means Republicans have to win less in order to keep control of the House. When you take a look at the Senate race, you can see that it's 50 Republican seats with 46 Democrats, but that includes two of them being independent. Democrats would have to win every, taught, every toss up state and flip at least one Republican state, which it doesn't even look like they're gonna be able to flip. Maine with Graham Platner being, being ripped to shreds by the corporate press somehow, and I love to bring this up, people are still betting big on Democrats sweeping with the plurality on call sheet in Maine. It has flipped. Now the probability that the market is giving for the Republican Party to win is 52. So let me just say this. It's looking real bad for Democrats. Send that opium straight into my veins. What I am hoping is that with the procedural moves made by the Trump administration, with his election integrity army army meaning Trump expects to have some kind of watchdog going on or at least the pressure of making it more difficult for Democrats to pull shenanigans. But with the redistricting efforts, Republicans may at least hold Congress a little bit. And if they do, I hope Trump unleashes the dogs of war after the midterms. I am hoping that what we see after the midterms is a bit more gruff, aggressive and brutal than what we have been seeing now. And I want to caveat. People really need to understand that when Trump said drain the swamp and then he shut down usaid, that was a large portion of the swamp. Don't get me wrong, he's friends with swampy monsters. Lindsey Graham's got a seat right next to that throne, which is nasty. But USAID being shut down was one of the most aggressive and brutal things a president could have done to curtail the deep state and drain the swamp. So amazing work. I'm just hoping that all of these dirty games we see playing played by the Democrats like in California. Oh, it's going to take us a month to figure out who won in a city. You want to make the argument about the state and I'll roll my eyes. You make the argument LA County. It's like, bro, you're not talking about a statewide race, you're talking about a city. Come on. I'm hoping Trump just unleashes a dogs of war after he says, okay, we're going to go send federal watchdogs. There's going to be direct federal management on how you're handling your elections. Sue me. I hope he goes nuclear.
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Phil
I mean, I would love to see it as well. I mean, I don't know. I'm still confident. Yeah, I mean I'm still of the opinion that, that if the, if the economy is in the toilet, the Republicans are going to lose. If the economy is not in the toilet, the Republicans can win. I think if the, if the economy takes a significant downturn before, before election day, they have no chance no matter what the polls say now. It would be great to see the Republicans hold onto the House and Senate and have Donald Trump not have to worry about, you know, the administration not have to worry about just endless inquiries and impeachment, you know, papers filed and stuff. I don't, I don't know that I have high hopes yet. We'll see as it gets closer to, to election day.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, because the gas prices are totally freaking people out. I mean, yeah, it's a real problem and unless we can figure out a way, and I don't know what mechanisms of power can be used, but the economy has to turn around at least when people are going to the pump because it's not building a lot of confidence voters minds for the current President Regular is 424.
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Tate
Well, it's 460 like 2. I mean, it's crazy. How expensive?
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Carter
Mid grades, 475 premiums, 512 diesel. Here's the real trick, people. The real secret is you got to watch Diesel. I understand that when you go to the pump, you're like, oh man, gas at $4 is brutal. And it is brutal. But when diesel is really, really high, that means everything is, is going to go up and it's going to get real bad. You know, we had this debate in the uncensored portion of the show. You guys should check it out with Myron Gaines last night. His argument was the war in Iran is for Israel and all of the actions taken by the Trump administration that seem to line up are unrelated or just coincidental. I don't want to. I'm not trying to put words in his mouth, but the general idea I made was, or I posited is they take out all the drug traffickers and criminal element in the, in the Caribbean, these narco terrorists and boats. Why did they decide to do that? Good question. They then move in on Venezuela. Why did they do that right now? It's an interesting question. Surrounding Cuba, securing the Panama Canal from China, trying to secure the Northwest Passage, access to Greenland. And then of course, the Suez is a large component, hence the war with Iran. My argument is taking out the drug traffickers was to clear traffic lanes for oil ships that are going to be coming from the Gulf, which is happening now. Taking oil from Venezuela is because we are. Donald Trump wants to secure energy for the Western Hemisphere and for American interests. You factor in the Panna Canal and Northwest Passage. Those are paramount. If you are going to be the principal oil exporter of the world. If you're going to be the dominant oil producer and trader, you need to be able to access the other parts of the world. So these trade routes are extremely important. Then you get the war in Iran. And my argument is Trump is not reopening the straight. Trump is yo yoing these negotiations. If he wanted the straight open, he could leave. Myron's argument was he can't because he needs a political win. My argument is that does not account for all of the actions taken previously, such as sending an armada to armada there, securing oil. It seems like Trump is taking all of these actions for the purpose of shutting down Eastern oil production, cutting off China and centering the world's energy in the west, in the United States, through the Gulf. That being said, Myron said he did not believe that was a good thing for America, nor was it America first. I would simply Agree and say, it would appear that if this is the case, Donald Trump's strategy is, we are going to give the world a fever. We are going to make our enemies suffer more than we suffer, but everybody suffers all the way down. So the American people are going through tremendous hardship with these gas prices. The economy is not in good shape. YouGov poll showed that around half of people polled believe the economy is on the verge of collapse. A third believe the economy's gonna collapse and there will be a civil war. Hey, thanks, YouGov. You know, I'm always interested in that polling data. Housings, housing. The housing market's in trouble as sellers are giving up and pulling their houses off the market to just sit on them, which is creating a weird phenomenon. And arguably, gas prices are a principal component in why everything is getting crazy. If this is true, Donald Trump, he. He's. The Republicans are going to be in trouble. This is their war. This is. These are their policies. Now I'm wondering if maybe the strategy is maybe in September, maybe in October. Trump's October surprises. The strait finally reopens because Trump just leaves. Gas prices come down, and instantly everybody feels a pressure release which creates the mirage of improvement. Entering a midterm feeling like everything just got really good thanks to Trump. Forgetting that several months ago, it is the war in Iran for which Trump is president, that caused it all. That could be a strategy. It's kind of like you ever go into the covers and you get real, real hot, and then you come out of the covers and you feel cold even though it's still hot. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. That's what it seems like Trump is doing.
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Tate
Yeah, And Trump doesn't have great options right now as far as getting the gas price down with the global energy pinch, because one thing he could do is repeal the gas tax. That would drop it by about 30 cents per gallon. That's fair. But a lot of people have proposed, and this is like more of a populist proposal as well. We should just tariff oil exports. And we did that for. For a long time. We did that. I think it's starting in the 60s or 70s, and I think it was like 2015 is when Congress finally lifted it. The problem with that, why did Congress lift the, you know, the oil export in 2015? Well, because that's actually impedes our domestic oil production, you know, from expanding. So, like, if you're, if you're in the oil business, if you're Exxon Mobil, the more access to the global market you have, the more incentive you actually have to expand your oil production, and the less or the more restricted the market is. Like, the harder you have, the harder time you have exporting oil, the more. The harder it gets to run your refineries, the harder it gets to run your drilling and all of your related oil operations. So what would end up happening? This is why the people should be cautious saying, well, why doesn't Trump just. If we're. If we're truly exporting so much oil, you know, why don't we just tariff it and bring that back home? Because that'll give you temporary relief. Like, yes, the gas prices will drop pretty hard, actually, for, I don't know, maybe a year, maybe two, maybe three years. But once the oil companies start losing money because they can't export the global market. You talked about diesel. Most of the diesel gets produced in the United States, gets exported overseas, because everything runs on diesel, Especially in Europe, even they don't even have unleaded gas there. They use diesel. These oil companies will start hemorrhaging money. They'll start closing down their production. They'll start closing down refineries. Right now, a lot of the refineries in the US Are actually designed for global export, and it will actually drive fuel up even more. So everyone's proposing this. Everyone's saying, why doesn't Trump just do this? And it's like, he can't, because it'll actually make things much worse if you're just kicking the can down the road.
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Jay Chase Davis
Well, yeah, but he may need to kick the can a few years down the road in order to save the midterms, in order to continue implementing his policies.
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Tate
Yeah, well, I mean, it's a twofold problem. Is, like, one, it would require an act of Congress, most likely. It could get jammed up the course. Yeah. That could limp you across, you know, past the midterms. But then, you know, if there's a successor to Trump, if he's wanting a Republican to win, and we're nearing the end of the Trump term, and then gas starts going crazy. Sure. And now these oil companies are lining up to give money to the Democrats.
- [56:15]
Jay Chase Davis
Right.
- [56:16]
Tate
Then we're screwed, because that's what's gonna end up happening. People think the oil industry is naturally conservative because the guys that work in there are naturally conservative. That is true. Like, whenever you meet a guy in the oil business, he's typically a conservative. But Exxon Mobil, they don't care about transgender bathrooms or whatever. They're concerned about Their bottom line. And if they say Trump just screwed us over and he ran the oil industry into the ground, they were going to. You better believe they're going to be lining up to put money in the Democrat party's pockets.
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Carter
Yeah, I don't know that anybody's giving the Democrats any money. They're, they're in debt and it's just the funding is not going to the party anymore.
- [56:46]
Tate
I'm just saying this would be a good way to give them some relief. If you start, if you destroy the oil industry.
- [56:51]
Carter
I just kind of feel like the state of the Democratic Party is the donors don't see. Look, if you're $3 million in debt, why give you a dollar?
- [56:58]
Tate
Well, the problem the Democrats are having right now, primarily why they can't fundraise, is because they still are successful at smaller dollar donations. You still have random libtards across the country that'll throw a few bucks the Democrats way. But they've lost all their major donors. And the primary reason, what they've all cited is because the Democrats are pursuing redistribution, redistribution policies. And so far as we see California, the billionaire taxes, et cetera, et cetera. These taxes, you may as a populist say, well that sounds great, you know, let's like punish these rich people again. That's who creates jobs, that's who creates capital. Like I hate to go all prager you on everyone, but like it's, they're, you know, let's get back to basics here. Everyone go back to Your Ben Shapiro 101. What happens if you start driving big business into the ground? It actually does impact you. It actually will screw you over at some point. I know that's like, you know, boring take especially from a zoomer, but it's like true. And what will happen is you'll start losing elections because again, if the Republicans started just driving business into the ground, they were going to line up and bail the Democrats out. Because to Tim's point, the Democrats are on the ropes right now. They have no money. They're like what, three, four million dollars in the hole?
- [58:01]
Carter
Three million in the hole.
- [58:02]
Tate
Yeah. And so again, why give them a branch right now? They're on the ropes, they're suffering. They're completely dependent on their activist base. And if Trump keeps racking up victories again, if he can put a bow on Iran and get out of there, get a golden parachute, these activists are going to be demoralized. Look, in the first year, the activist base of the Democrats, they were completely demotivated. So if you can return. That activist base is shut down. There's no money flowing into the party. It's over for them.
- [58:25]
Carter
Do they. I wonder about this when, when Trump won in 24, it was kind of a wild night. I remember we're, you know, we're live streaming. We were in Nashville and we all thought it was going to be a long time. I remember when we were talking with the Daily Wire guys, we were negotiating, like, hey, maybe we'll come down and do a special where we'll do election coverage there and we'll get, like, set up our own studio at the Daily Wire place and studios. And then we'll do a crossover and it'd be really fun, I think a great idea. And then I said, I guess the problem is it's not going to be an election night. It could take weeks. And then they were like, maybe we need to plan for that. I said, what if we stayed for the week and then prepared for maybe having to stay into another week? And they're like, that's a good point. And then Trump one handily that night within a few hours, and we're all sitting there like, wow. Immediately following this, every major Democrat pundit said it is the fault of the Democratic Party for not investing in media.
- [59:20]
Tate
Yep.
- [59:20]
Carter
We need the Joe Rogan of the left. Has Trump not learned that message? Like, they need to be. One of the most important things you can do is invest in culture and community. Trump should be. I don't know if he can do this through, like, maybe not a governmental thing, but I'm saying the conservatives need to be dumping as much money as possible into pro America cultural media spaces. Now, don't get me wrong, the Ellison certainly are doing that, but I don't know that the moves they've made have been so overtly pro American culture. Don't get me wrong, the firing of Scott Pelley, I was tap dancing and laughing my ass off. I hate these people. And it's. It's tough for me. I never like to say I hate people, but, man, when Barry Wire started firing these people, I'm just sitting back, be like, someone get me a coconut. I'm gonna. I'm gonna kick back and put my feet up and watch. This is my entertainment. This is better than wwe. So that's incredible. But I. I suppose I should say this. They bought TikTok. They. They're buying Paramount. You know, they're potentially going to get Time Warner. Maybe they really do recognize it. I'm just hoping that they're doing something bigger than it seems they're doing because the midterms are coming up and it does not seem like they're making large moves in cultural spaces the way they could or should be.
- [60:41]
Tate
Well, I think, I think the reality is the Ellison's Elon Musk, who would be probably classified as 90s Democrats are having more impact on the culture right now than like 90% of conservative media whose sole purpose is to influence culture. There's something to be said about that. I don't want to name names, but if you look around the conservative space, these guys are more interested in funding their pet projects than they are and like actually investing in like something people would want to watch. And I think that kind of appeals.
- [61:06]
Carter
You mean like the Daily Wire?
- [61:08]
Tate
Yeah, there's some Dragon something that lost a ton of money and was really embarrassing and was a total waste of money and it was the pet project.
- [61:14]
Carter
That's.
- [61:14]
Tate
I, but, but I don't know if you tried. I mean you can like give it someone for trying, but it's like.
- [61:19]
Carter
Yes, but I actually, I will disagree. The idea behind it is if we own Game of Thrones, we dictate culture. And Pendragon was supposed to be a Christian coded Game of Thrones to try and recenter the culture through entertainment. And it didn't work.
- [61:35]
Tate
Well, because the problem is, and this is what Elon Musk learned that a lot of these guys haven't learned, is that sometimes you just have to retake the core institution. Because sometimes, sometimes it works. Sometimes you can build a parallel institution. I think podcasting is a great example. I would say Tim cast IRL and other night shows that are in the new media have dethroned late night television. That is true, but that's an exception to the norm. Generally you need to retake the core institution insofar as what if we make a base Game of Thrones, but you're saying we're just defining ourselves in what we're against, which is Game of Thrones. Elon Musk learned this lesson. How many Twitter alternatives were created? We can name them and we need two hands to name them all. Just retake Twitter, Boom, problem solved. We're good.
- [62:13]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, it's.
- [62:13]
Carter
Well, I mean, to be fair, then libs just left Twitter and went to blue sky in threads and now you've got two psycho platforms full of psychotic people.
- [62:21]
Tate
But what's happened. But what's happened to the culture for the last nine months? And I can use my normie oracles to fact check. This is. The political discourse has been between one side of the right and the other side of the right, the left has been completely frozen out of, like, the political discourse. And that's not me saying that as someone that's in it. I've spoken to my normie oracles. They know more about Tucker Carlson feuding with, you know, Mark Levin than they do about, you know, whatever, Sam Seders.
- [62:45]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, that's what everybody's talking about. But I don't know that Democrats need, like, they can have all the debt and they still have a lot of cultural cachet as long as the divide between men and women, particularly single women. And you saw that poll from the last election that single women overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Why is that? Because the government for them functions as a husband and a father.
- [63:06]
Tate
Yeah.
- [63:06]
Jay Chase Davis
It's their dependency. And as long as the Democrats keep pushing this empathetic, feminized framework, this moral virtue signaling, and these young women are lapping it up and knowing that the government's going to take care of them, that's their base at this point.
- [63:20]
Tate
Yeah, we can get super esoteric here. I mean, like, a good indication of, I think, a big problem. What you're seeing is, like, who's controlling the culture is like, hypergamy playing out in real time. As long as dating apps make up the majority of how couples met, that indicates that the left's winning. And I know that's like a really reductionist thing to say, that's almost like, cliche, but it's broadly true because that's. That that effectively institutionalizes hypergamy, which indicates that women and men are both miserable. And that's going to continue the political divide between the two. If you see a restoration of like, again, healthy institutions that, like, function how they should, and one of those being courtship, dating, whatever you want to call it, turning into a marriage, if that starts firing on all cylinders again, that does indicate that the conservative, so to speak, or the right wing is back in the driver's seat. But if you look at the like, if you look at. I think it's the. I believe it's the IRS actually, that releases data on how couples met. Believe it or not, I think it's. The IRS is one of the government institutions you wouldn't expect. They're the ones that actually released the data on how couples met. And it's like 70. So they met on dating apps and the last, last batch of marriage licenses issued.
- [64:20]
Jay Chase Davis
So insane.
- [64:20]
Tate
And that just institutionalizes hypergamy.
- [64:23]
Jay Chase Davis
Well, the. The other thing is that the evangelical church right now, which is supposed to be Trump's base. A lot of the institutional leaders keep promoting singleness for women as like, God's path for them. So they keep releasing videos and articles saying, like, no, it's good. You should stay single. Stay single. It's disgusting.
- [64:37]
Tate
Can you break down because this is interesting. You kind of were like maybe hinting at it earlier. Can you break down because I get flack from this by. I'm not saying girl dads when I attack girl dads. I'm not saying men that have daughters. That's just fathers that have daughters. That's a separate thing. I'm talking about the specific girl dad brand. Can you maybe explain this better? Because I think I lose people.
- [64:55]
Jay Chase Davis
Oh, there's so many. Yeah, I have a lots of thoughts on this. But yeah, typically, I think what you're
- [65:00]
Tate
talking about is that the Dave Ramsey.
- [65:02]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah. The guy, the father who becomes feminized himself, who almost worships his daughter.
- [65:07]
Tate
Yeah.
- [65:07]
Jay Chase Davis
As like an idealized. You know, this is going to sound scandalous, but partner somebody who idolizes him back and respects him, like, ultimately. And finally he gives her whatever she wants. And this is a huge problem. And it is a problem in evangelical
- [65:21]
Tate
spaces because the church, it's poisoned evangelically. Yeah.
- [65:25]
Jay Chase Davis
The church has taught them that women basically don't sin, women don't have problems. And, and here's my. My heart as a pastor is like, women are suffering tremendously right now.
- [65:36]
Tate
I would argue more than men. I mean, the depression rates indicate that
- [65:39]
Jay Chase Davis
the depression and anxiety among women is horrible. I mean, I almost should have. Should have written a book for women because, like, they're really suffering and they need ultimately, Christ, they need help.
- [65:48]
Tate
Yeah.
- [65:48]
Jay Chase Davis
And the evangelical church, instead of helping them, is just reinforcing the same pattern of life by suggesting singleness and becoming a boss babe, whatever. Instead of like saying, hey, this church is a great place to meet a husband and get married. We're going to raise up strong men who are attractive to you, naturally. Even though you're going to tell people that, you know, that I'm not attracted to that, that's what they want. And so we're going to raise up strong men that have stable jobs, that have a mission in life, that know where they're going, that aren't filled with bitterness and resentment playing video games all day. Nothing wrong with video games. I enjoy a video game, but you know what I mean, like productive members of society. And that's going to be attractive to women. Instead of that, they're often reinforcing kind of this boss babe mentality among Young women, raising up women in the church, putting women in the pulpit, all this kind of stuff. And so the evangelical church is typically like what, 10 to 20 years behind the culture and they're living out everything that was like 10 to 20 years ago in terms of raising up women in every institution.
- [66:42]
Tate
Well, and this is why I think like this sort of thinking which is completely ticket of the evangelical church. And to your point, we dealt with like 10, 20 years ago and like I guess she was say the cultural zeitgeist. Is it battery farms? This is almost like two on the nose. But it battery farms Democrat voters because again it pulls on like the deficiencies that women have right now that are engaging in the girl bossism because a, it gives them a sense of stability and strength and a father figure being the state. I mean I hate to go like Jordan Peterson, everyone, but there's like, that's broadly true. And then it also siphons off their maternal instinct with migrants where they like legitimately view these migrants as like a newborn baby that's paralyzed.
- [67:19]
Jay Chase Davis
We've got to care for them. And it's, yeah, it's totally preying on their maternal instincts. This is what women like are literally hardwired and built for biologically is to be this way. And unfortunately they've been given a vision of like well, my baby now is an immigrant from a third world country and now daddy government has to feed the baby.
- [67:37]
Tate
You think this is world vision's fault?
- [67:39]
Carter
No, actually let's jump to the story from NBC News. Flesh eating screw worm returns to the US after 60 years threatening cattle herd. The case of New World screwworm was confirmed in a three week old calf in La Priore, Texas, near the US Mexico border. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said a flesh eating parasite that had been kept out of the US livestock for decades has been detected in Texas, threatening the nation's cattle industry. And I just want to let you guys know that basically it's a parasitic cat fly that will lay its eggs inside your body and it can target humans too. And then my question to all of you that are watching, please comment. How do you think this thing came back into the United States? How could it have possibly have come here?
- [68:25]
Tate
You can swim, swim across the Rio Grande.
- [68:27]
Carter
It just one day it got a, it got a bus. Maybe it rode the beast.
- [68:31]
Tate
The weird thing was when I was going through Africa and you would cross border crossings, this was in every country is they would have like a little pool. So when you're the border, it's very primitive, like border Patrol crossings. Yeah, go figure, right? And they would have a little pool. So when you would get off the bus, you would walk through this little pool of like, it looked like water and get to the other side. And I went through like three border crossings and I found the like, why do we walk through this little pool? And they say, oh, we put like bleach and stuff in there. It's like to disinfect your shoes so you don't track in like any parasites or anything across a border that has no fence or anything. And I'm like, okay, that's interesting. And as the guy is explaining to me that this is what we do to ensure that disease doesn't spread, literally a farmer shepherding a bunch of goats just like walks right through the border crossing. And I'm like, it's really remarkable stuff.
- [69:19]
Carter
So I now for those that haven't answered, the reason I believe that the parasitic flies have gotten this country is illegal immigration.
- [69:28]
Tate
Yeah. And I think that's true. So it's like all of us law abiding citizens, you know, are washing our feet in the little pool, the African pool. We're getting the job done, we're ensuring everything's a okay. But we have a lot of goat herders coming into this country.
- [69:41]
Carter
And then they're saying things like, oh, you know, moms in polio. And it's funny because the UK is having a polio outbreak.
- [69:47]
Tate
Yeah, I know.
- [69:48]
Carter
And why is that, Tate? How could that British.
- [69:52]
Tate
It's the same reason that we're seeing cousin marriage just skyrocket. It's the British people. Something weird's going on there.
- [69:58]
Carter
The old British gentlemen have just decided. They said, dear, I say the polio is a good thing, let's spread it intentionally and marry our cousins.
- [70:05]
Jay Chase Davis
My cousin's looking right. She's looking fit. She's looking proper fit. Right?
- [70:10]
Tate
That's what's going on. I don't know, it's some sort of woke mind virus. So we have to ask Connor Tomlinson, has he found his cousin attractive?
- [70:16]
Carter
Do leftists marry their cousins? Is that a thing? I'm going to ask them.
- [70:19]
Tate
I'm going to marry anyone that's a problem. I think, I think if, if they were marrying their cousins, that would be an upgrade versus what they're doing right now.
- [70:26]
Carter
I'm just saying, you know, like, why are, why are they hell bent on having these people come into this country?
- [70:30]
Phil
It's, it's not that leftists marry their cousins. It's that people that marry their cousins end up leftists.
- [70:36]
Tate
Probably true. Yeah.
- [70:38]
Carter
Well, I mean, well, if, if the argument is contending adults can marry whoever they want, it's never going to stop. I mean, the argument for Oberg Fell, of course, is like, well, contending adults can marry what they marry who they want and live how they want. It's like that means siblings can get married. I mean, that's not, that's not a principled argument. That's that, that, that goes in weird directions. Yeah.
- [70:59]
Jay Chase Davis
They have no framework for this. It's all based on what feels nice to people. And this is the biggest problem is they keep, we keep suggesting policies and the problem with going back to the single women thing is they're typically driven by their feminine instincts, which what sounds the nicest that's going to upset the least amount of people. And so that's what they're going to keep pushing is this kind of nonsense. And you know, there was some pushback during trans stuff and they still celebrate this in many places, but people kind of saw it then, but they're not going to stop. I don't think WOKE is going away at all. I don't, I don't think the Jackson
- [71:34]
Tate
Dart thing illustrates back in full swing what is, what does Jackson Daugherty went and endorsed. He spoke at a Trump rally and I was getting rigged through the cold.
- [71:42]
Carter
Oh, right, right, right. Well, and all the major league sports sort of bring up the pride flags again for Pride Month.
- [71:46]
Tate
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I don't think. Well, I think WOKE is just wasn't, you know, maybe on sabbatical or something. But it's back, but to the broader point you were talking about. I mean, I think this is true because again, they view illegals broadly as their children and they, and they use really like vapid, redundant statements to justify it where they'll say, and I know it's like let's dunk on leftist show. But it's like true is they'll say, oh well, they're looking for a better life. That's like a really redundant statement because every decision I make at all times, makers make my life better. So it's like, yeah, America's like awesome. Of course they're coming like, so, you know. But as far as this fly, I don't know, maybe it's just a fly decided to cross.
- [72:26]
Jay Chase Davis
Didn't they have a program? Because I thought that this thing is not new, it's not novel. Our government was fighting this as far as I know. I mean, someone correct me here.
- [72:34]
Carter
No, I think you're right.
- [72:35]
Jay Chase Davis
I think they were dropping flies that were like inert in Latin America in order to prevent the spread of this fly north. Because this has been a problem in Latin America for decades.
- [72:45]
Carter
They'd eradicated it for the most part.
- [72:47]
Phil
Yeah.
- [72:48]
Carter
Here, at least.
- [72:49]
Jay Chase Davis
Well, here. But I, I wonder if that program somehow got canceled with USA or something.
- [72:54]
Tate
Oh, we eliminated the fly eating program. We, we cut the frog program. And now the frogs died and they can't eat the flies anymore. It's a big problem. I mean, yeah, I mean, like, as, as much as I, you know, me, I'd be the first person to blame this on, on, on the third world, which I think broadly is true. There probably is some just, I don't know, micro evolution and a fly and it's like caused this to come roaring back and a possibility.
- [73:19]
Jay Chase Davis
Did you hear about Google dropping a bunch of mosquitoes recently?
- [73:21]
Carter
Yeah. And it's. And it's because they want to kill mosquitoes.
- [73:25]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah.
- [73:26]
Carter
So the. So Google is seeking a permit to release a bunch of diseased male mosquitoes, so they'll go out and bang the females, giving them mosquito aids. I'm not joking.
- [73:38]
Tate
Well, this happens in New Orleans all the time.
- [73:39]
Carter
So Google wants. Wants. Yes. With men and then the female mosquitoes. What happens is the eggs can't hatch.
- [73:45]
Tate
Right.
- [73:45]
Carter
So, so again I want to ask because I see all these people being like, why would Google be releasing mosquitoes? And I'm like, you know, I'm kind of, I kind of with you on this one. Like, I don't trust Google. The stated objective is they got a bunch of mosquitoes infected with mosquito AIDS that will go, I'm not joking, will go. And then bang the female mosquitoes and give the female mosquitoes mosquito aids. And then the female mosquitoes eggs are inviable, so they just get wiped out by this mosquito AIDS epidemic.
- [74:13]
Tate
I think it's fantastic stuff. It's like, you know, if your enemy's like throwing you a bone, take the bone and run with it. Like if George Soros got up and he said, I'm releasing something that's gonna kill all wasps. Be like, yes, sir, take over my district attorney. That's awesome. I support you 100%.
- [74:26]
Carter
But the issue is, do we believe them?
- [74:28]
Tate
I hate mosquitoes and wasps so much, I'm willing to go to the devil.
- [74:30]
Carter
Like, what if the mosquitoes weren't carrying mosquito aids, but like regular aids, you know what I mean?
- [74:33]
Tate
They just give you aids.
- [74:34]
Carter
That would be terrible.
- [74:35]
Tate
That would be Africa.
- [74:36]
Carter
That's why just kind of like Maybe, maybe you can find other ways to get rid of the mosquitoes. But here's the problem. Let's say Google was like, we're going to spray pesticide to kill these mosquitoes. People would be like, these chemicals are bad for us.
- [74:46]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah.
- [74:46]
Carter
RFK Jr. Would be like, you got
- [74:48]
Jay Chase Davis
to be out of your mind.
- [74:49]
Carter
So what is, you know, it's not easy, right? How do we, how do we get rid of these mosquitoes?
- [74:54]
Jay Chase Davis
I've been asking this since I was a young boy and I hate mosquitoes so much that I am willing to, you know, let's test this theory. Let's see how.
- [75:01]
Carter
What about we do like one gigantic bug zapper that every, like you put on a big metal post so everyone can gather around like town center and like hold hands and like they watch
- [75:12]
Jay Chase Davis
bugs exploding like state mandated bug zappers. Every American. This can reboot the economy.
- [75:17]
Tate
Like what Switzerland does with rifles.
- [75:18]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah.
- [75:19]
Tate
Every American.
- [75:20]
Jay Chase Davis
American, yeah.
- [75:21]
Carter
Every, every building must have a 20 foot pole with a gigantic bug zapper and just wiping out all bugs.
- [75:26]
Jay Chase Davis
You walk in every town.
- [75:29]
Carter
I think that would probably destroy the environment. Like, you know, pollinators would vanish over,
- [75:34]
Tate
you know, like half the bugs just die. And like no one knows how.
- [75:37]
Carter
Yeah.
- [75:38]
Tate
I was reading the other day, they're like, yeah, like half the worms died. We don't know what.
- [75:41]
Carter
It's worse than that actually. Yeah. Windshield phenomenon. You've heard of this?
- [75:44]
Phil
Yeah.
- [75:44]
Carter
So you don't, you don't, you don't know the state. This is actually, this is the important thing that we understand.
- [75:49]
Tate
Very clean.
- [75:50]
Carter
When, when I was a kid, if you drove down the highway even a short distance, your windshield is covered in bugs. Like every time you stop for gas, your windshield is splattered with bugs. You gotta wipe it all off. It's disgusting. Not anymore. Now you drive down the highway and there's no bugs.
- [76:04]
Tate
Well, cause I remember, you know, this. Can we. Maybe there's a little culpability on the bugs here. Because I remember in high school I moved to San Antonio and like the year we moved there, there was this like butterfly migration wave or something. And all the butterflies, this is on them, they were flying way too low. So they were just getting like, just. We were stacking bodies every time you commute. But I remember that had a psychological toll on me because I was learning to drive. And I'm driving for the first time and these beautiful butterflies were just like, like kamikazing into my car. And I remember I would, everywhere I'd go, I'd have like Tears in my eyes because I'm like, I think I've just killed 50,000 butterflies.
- [76:39]
Jay Chase Davis
This is a traumatic event for you.
- [76:41]
Tate
I know. So I'm like, there's there. We should be. The bugs got to be on the hook a little bit. Like, maybe we could do some retraining with them or something. Guys, fly a little higher. Maybe they lug.
- [76:48]
Jay Chase Davis
Maybe they adapted. They were just tired of getting murdered by you.
- [76:51]
Tate
They're going underground. They're sleeping.
- [76:52]
Phil
They're going under.
- [76:53]
Tate
Yeah, they're sleeper agents.
- [76:54]
Phil
I'm skeptical on the ability to train bugs.
- [76:57]
Tate
We should try Palantir or something. I don't know.
- [77:01]
Phil
I don't want. I don't know that I want my tax dollars because they have those.
- [77:04]
Tate
They have those, like, moderate Muslims who come out and de. Radicalize ones like, hey, don't blow yourself up. Like, it's, you know, it's bad taste, bad optics and stuff. Can we do those bugs is like, hey, you know, you're a bee. You're going to die if you sting that guy. He's probably not going to mess with you. Like, maybe think it through. Just stick with the honey or something. I don't know. But, like, we should send some moderate bugs out to fix the radicalism problem.
- [77:21]
Jay Chase Davis
I mean, this is a great idea. It goes in line with the creation mandate. We should, you know, have dominion over every. Yeah, everything, including the bugs.
- [77:27]
Phil
Perfect.
- [77:27]
Tate
Like the worms. Like, guys, you don't need to go out on the sidewalk when it's scorching hot out. Like, that's not going to be good for you. They do that all. But that's true. You remember when you're a kid, you go out after it rained and all the worms are dead on. That doesn't happen anymore. Oh, really?
- [77:39]
Carter
That still does. We still see the worms. Yeah. Oh, there's like, there's some splatter, so
- [77:42]
Tate
you guys could at least, like, you know, along with.
- [77:45]
Carter
The driveway's got some splatted worms on it.
- [77:48]
Tate
Oh, the roly polies are gone, though. There used to be roly polies everywhere.
- [77:51]
Phil
It's a really.
- [77:51]
Tate
Well, we got June bugs, fireflies are low. We got to strap some LED lantern bugs.
- [77:55]
Carter
It's pretty wild. When I was little, like, growing up, the 90s, you'd go outside on any summer night and there's thousands of lightning bugs everywhere.
- [78:02]
Tate
Catch them in a mason jar and poke a hole in it, and that'd be my nightlight. Yeah, I'd wake up and I just committed a genocide. They're all dead.
- [78:07]
Carter
They're all dead. Yeah, you got to put food in there for.
- [78:10]
Tate
It's a hand up moment. I killed all the fireflies.
- [78:12]
Jay Chase Davis
Did you watch a bugs life too when you were little?
- [78:14]
Tate
I did.
- [78:14]
Carter
You know the worst thing about that? Like, can I. Can I just say this to you, Tate? You understand where the lightning bugs light up, right?
- [78:21]
Tate
No, I have no idea.
- [78:22]
Carter
Does anybody know why lightning bugs light up?
- [78:24]
Tate
I thought it was for show.
- [78:26]
Carter
What message are they saying?
- [78:28]
Phil
I'm looking for sex.
- [78:29]
Carter
So when you capture like 100 of them, put them in a jar, like an orgy, you got a jar full of dudes being like, I want sex, but there's no women anywhere.
- [78:38]
Tate
The horniest jar in town, San Francisco microclimate. Like Bourbon street in a jar. That's great. Just getting wacky and wild. It's like prison. You just created a prison and then
- [78:48]
Carter
they're all dead in the morning.
- [78:49]
Tate
Yeah, it's like prison, just too much horn.
- [78:53]
Carter
There's a funny meme I saw someone said something about, like, the what. What the left is actually advocate advocating for is jail. So we should put him in jail. Because when you think about it, it's guaranteed housing. You've got, you know, you've got free food, free health care. And that was actually one of it. Same sex relationships. So it's like exactly what they want.
- [79:12]
Tate
Yeah. Universal basic income.
- [79:14]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, they did. Homosexuality.
- [79:16]
Tate
Yeah.
- [79:18]
Phil
Just because, Just because they. They're going to like, jail doesn't mean that we shouldn't put them in jail. We should just jail them.
- [79:24]
Tate
If anything, you feel a little better about yourself. Yeah. You know, hey, look at Bone.
- [79:27]
Phil
Yeah, exactly.
- [79:28]
Carter
We should make. We should make an island and call it progressive Island. And we tell these progressives, like, look, we set it up. It's free housing, free food, free health care. If you're into same sex relationships, like, that's always allowed. And here's a ticket. But once you go in, you can't leave. Like, you walk in the front door, but it's a turnstile. Just goes one way. Yeah.
- [79:47]
Tate
So we can't come to Cuba and just make some minor tweaks and then we're good. That's effectively what it is.
- [79:52]
Carter
Like, you just walk through this, you know, turnstile, and then once you go, it doesn't go back the other direction. You're in there forever.
- [79:58]
Tate
Yeah.
- [79:59]
Carter
And then when they're like, what do I do? Don't worry, food's paid for. Can I leave? No.
- [80:03]
Tate
Yeah, you're good.
- [80:03]
Carter
That's the trade. Not allowed to leave everything you've ever wanted in more?
- [80:07]
Tate
I think, I think Cuba like just throw the same sex marriage in there. They're good. They'll go run hog wild down there. I don't be kind of fun like hey kids, we're gonna go to liberal land. It's gonna get wilder.
- [80:17]
Carter
You can never.
- [80:17]
Jay Chase Davis
Don't interact with the wild.
- [80:18]
Tate
It's like Jurassic Park.
- [80:20]
Carter
Let's, let's talk about liberal land. We got this story from syracuse.com. have you guys heard the story of this cop? His name is Christopher Baldner. No, I'll just give you the story. He go to jail. He's going to jail. Former New York state trooper sent him to prison for crash that killed 11 year old girl. Give me the gist of the story. He pulls a guy over, approaches the vehicle and the guy refuses to give him my driver's license. He instructs the guy to get out of the car. The guy refuses. He pepper sprays the guy. The guy flees in the car. Officer gets in his car and pursues, performs a pit maneuver causing the car to crash, ejecting the 11 year old girl from the car. Not wearing a seatbelt. She dies. New York said the cop is guilty. They charged him with murder. And the jury was like no, no, no, he didn't murder her. And they said how about manslaughter? Said, yeah, manslaughter. So, so let me just stress this. The child in the vehicle was not wearing a seatbelt. I would, I believe it's the story. I could be wrong. And the criminal was fleeing from police. And they said it's the cop's fault for pursuing a criminal, fleeing, resulting in a death. What do they, that's, that's liberal land. That's insane. They expect the cop to say, you are free to go criminal. Have a nice day. So in other words, let's build a giant fence around New York and once you walk in, you can't walk out, you're in forever. Then we can have our liberal land where they just keep them away from us. We'll airdrop food periodically.
- [81:46]
Tate
I mean that's in Kingston. I mean that's, that's not New York City property. That's probably fairly, I mean, I don't know the voting of Kingston. I know that area is fairly red. So I mean like you know, this is kind of the problem is when we talk about like sectioning the country off and having like a national divorce, it's like, well even in these blue states, I mean obviously it's where the people live, but the Liberals are concentrated at the cities. You're going to sacrifice all these red state folks, these conservatives, on the altar of like our national divorce?
- [82:11]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, that's why we can't give up California. Can't give up L. A. Can't give up New York City. I know it's tough, but we gotta, we gotta work through it.
- [82:18]
Tate
I mean, New York City is a whole borough that votes red. You know, they're the, the west coast analog. Orange county votes red. So it's like there's still a lot of people there. I lived in New York City, I lived in Queens, where I used to live. I won't say which specific neighbor. It looked like Alabama. There was Trump flags everywhere, Confederate flags. I was like, oh, guys. Well, unlikely allies, the Italians, but yeah, it was actually one guy to Kingdom of Italy flag and then a Confederate flag.
- [82:39]
Jay Chase Davis
I was like, wow, interesting.
- [82:41]
Tate
This is like, you know, 12 year old's wall, but in real life it's really amazing stuff. But yeah, I mean, I just, I reject the notion of like we should just divide the state up because then also it's not like, it's not like the conservative movement has successfully excised the problems that led to what we're in in the first place. Most conservatives still have a lot of preconceived notions that are very liberal ideas. And so if you divided the country red and blue on a long enough timeline, there's a good chance that red America would just turn into what we're dealing with. Maybe 2010, like in the not so distant future.
- [83:11]
Carter
Look, the joke is that in 20 years the Republican Party will be a bunch of gay communists and the Democratic Party will be AI like the trend of the political parties and the direction that they go. The Republican Party today is pro gay marriage. It's, it's shifted, mind you. But go back to like 2010 and it was like, absolutely not.
- [83:29]
Phil
I mean, this.
- [83:30]
Carter
Go to 2012, go to 2016. Six years later, Donald Trump unveils a gay pride flag on the stage of the RNC to fanfare and applause.
- [83:37]
Phil
Yeah, this is the argument, or this is why, you know, Carl Sargon McLeod makes the argument that liberalism is, is,
- [83:42]
Carter
is a mental disease.
- [83:44]
Phil
Yeah, well, I mean that it's. That it's.
- [83:45]
Carter
I don't think he says that.
- [83:46]
Phil
No, but he says that it's, he says that, that liberalism is the problem. It's not. You, like, you can't like the idea that that man is detached from man in society, is actually detached from, from his nature. And he, and like Rousseau Rousseau said, you need to make man into savage man that lives in cities. And stuff like that kind of stuff is baked into, into liberalism. And all of the things that follow from liberalism or from the, the foundational principles of liberalism, all of the stuff that we're seeing today is all the stuff that obviously follows. And I think that while I don't agree 100 with his, with his estimation, I think that there's a lot of sub. A lot of things he's got right about that.
- [84:28]
Jay Chase Davis
No, I, I agree with a lot of stuff in the same way I write about. It's, it's. You can trace it back to the Enlightenment. A lot of the ideas of our founding classical liberalism. Good basic ideas.
- [84:38]
Phil
When you say enlighten. Because there's, there's different Enlightenments, like the, the, the Enlightenment. The French Enlightenment was different than the Scottish.
- [84:45]
Jay Chase Davis
The.
- [84:45]
Phil
Different than the Scottish Enlightenment.
- [84:47]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah. I'm tying it back to the age of liberalism and the rise of liberalism and all these institutions that we have today that we've inherited that are now kind of being sacrificed, gutted and corrupted. And so when we detach ourselves from nature and when we don't understand human nature and our purpose in life and we just have rationality. And it came up through the Enlightenment, through Romanticism, all of these movements. And you saw it worst, of course, in the French Revolution, which was, you know, early stage 2020, these ideas that what they do is they separate body and soul for people. And so no longer, like, if you return to a state of nature, it's going to be very apparent that men are the more powerful and dominant creature. But we've anesthetized ourselves through modern civilization to where we don't have to live in reality. It's detached from reality completely.
- [85:39]
Carter
I don't, I don't think you turn that off. We've got insane weapons, we've killed off all the predators, and we eat whatever we want, whenever we want. So, you know, it's fascinating. We live better than, you know, I was saying this the other day. 99. The majority of people, poor people in the United States, live better than 99.99% of all humans who have ever lived.
- [86:01]
Tate
Well, yeah, you could argue Samuel Colt institutionalized the sort of modern world that we live in, in many ways.
- [86:07]
Carter
The cartridge.
- [86:08]
Tate
Well, because, I mean, if, if again, if the state has a monopoly on. Not to go like libertarian, but like, if the state holds a monopoly on power, that does reduce the ability for men to organize.
- [86:19]
Carter
And, but, but it's not just that it's that, you know, it used to be if you go back a couple hundred years, women weren't involved in issues of conflict because there was a real threat to civilization if women got hurt or were unable to have kids or raise kids or raise families. Babies need milk, they can't eat food. So the men were like, stay here, we'll take care of the crazy stuff. Then we built great walls around our cities, massacred all of the predators, eliminated most of the war and conflict. I suppose the argument is the women are desperately trying to bring it back by voting for these policies that release criminals onto their streets. But when you live in a society where you've eliminated all of the threats, then there's no, there's no more reason for women to be shielded. There's something to shield them from. The problem then emerges when these women start voting, develop voting patterns. I'm not saying literally every woman. Ladies, calm down. We know how you like your, your micro level politics. It results in a tendency among female voters to vote for policies that release criminals. The criminals then victimize, prey upon women.
- [87:18]
Tate
Yeah, well, you can actually get a great, great case study of this in motorsport in which, like F1 NASCAR is a great example actually, where when you were driving in a season, a NASCAR season or whatever, there was a good chance a driver's going to die every year. Like, the threat of death was very real, very palpable. All the drivers knew, you know, one of the guys, one of my buddies is probably going to die in the next few years. It was a very real phenomenon, very real reality. But as the cars got safer, this new generation of drivers, there's zero fear of death whatsoever. They know for sure no matter how reckless I drive, I'm not going to die. I'm completely safe. And what's ended up happening to the sport is the drivers. I've never been more reckless. It's actually like ruined the sport in a lot of ways because these drivers know that I don't need to respect, you know, space or like, you know, proper kind of like traditional racing maneuvers because again, if I crash and I take out half the field, we're all going to be fine. But when there was that really real reality of death, it was actually, it had a civilizing effect. It had a civilizing effect on the drivers. And so far as they knew that one wrong turn could kill me and, or kill this guy next to me. Once that was gone, there's no civilization anymore. And on the track, I mean, I know it's like a very southern.
- [88:32]
Jay Chase Davis
Well, if you were to expand that illustration to how few people talk about eternal matters like hell. Like, you rarely hear the topic of hell and judgment brought up in church. And many people want to avoid this. They find it, you know, offensive to people. But this is like basic Christianity, that there's eternal judgment. Whatever you think happens in that judgment, at least let's agree there's eternal judgment. When you remove that kind of real. Of course I'm a Christian. I believe that's actually true. It's going to result in widespread degeneracy everywhere because people have no sense of consequence. Not only from the civil magistrate, not only from the government, are they not going to punish them. But there's going to be no pulpit that's going to be teaching from God's word, like, hey, like sin has consequences not just in this life, but in the life to come, which are much more severe than this life.
- [89:24]
Tate
Well, I mean that's, that's the specific mechanism as to why the Christian west was so successful is because people knew even when I was out of sight, out of mind from the government, I still ought to behave myself because there's still like a cosmic ledger that is accounting for all of this. And again, once that began to dissolve, people only feared accountability from the state. This is why, like at the outset of the United States and even like broadly every western country, the government was minimally involved in a lot of your affairs, your day to day affairs in your life, because they trusted their population could behave in a certain way. And yes, there's a whole conversation on high trust, low trust society, but that we can't downplay that effect that you're talking about. If God has an eye on me, if God is watching what I do even in my own room, I'm still going to be a hell of account for that. And that has a massive civilizing effect on people.
- [90:10]
Phil
Yeah, I mean, the idea of freedom, there's, there is a corresponding idea of responsibility that comes along with it. And we have totally rejected the idea of responsibility, whether it be the, the concept of, of, you know, women looking to the state to be their, to be their husband and their father and stuff like that, or whether it be, you know, men that have decided that they want to, you know, check out of society and stuff. The, the, we are so focused on on my, my freedom, my ability to do whatever I want with no regard for the responsibility that comes along with it.
- [90:46]
Jay Chase Davis
Well, and what I go back to is that the, the freedom is great so long as it's in service of your Duties and responsibilities. And people have everything in our modern world teaches people that they have no bonds.
- [91:00]
Phil
Yeah, no deal.
- [91:01]
Jay Chase Davis
They have no loyalty, no honor, no duty to anyone. And what happens in Christianity sometimes is that you'll have evangelical leaders who never want to talk about obedience, what you owe to the Lord, sanctification. And that's what young men right now are being drawn into faith traditions and the churches that are not heavy handed by any means, but just honestly telling them this is what God expects from you, they've so devalued duty. I like to put it this way. You'll get a lot of churches that will say you can belong here or you can belong before you believe. And there's another word called behave. And no church in their right mind nowadays would say you have to behave before you can belong. Yeah, because that would seem counter gospel, that would seem counter to the love of Jesus. That's non inclusive. And it's like. No, there's actually like responsibilities that come with this life. And it doesn't just play out eternally. It plays out practically in the material realm as well when we have no sense that we have bonds that we didn't choose. We have a mother and a father and I didn't choose them.
- [92:01]
Carter
Right.
- [92:02]
Jay Chase Davis
And that's good actually. God designed the world that way and I should submit to that reality rather than bucking against it and you know, buying this Disney narrative of like the parents are always dumb and the kids are always right. We're going to buy God's story, what he's written, that I'm going to honor my father and mother and I'm going to live into my legacy. I'm going to honor my duties and responsibilities to my family, my church, my nation and carry on a legacy. People just don't have a vision for that anymore.
- [92:28]
Tate
Yeah, that's like functionally the mechanism, see that's broken down is that again, previously when you were born, you did have this sort of slate of identities that had expectations, that had responsibilities that corresponded to them that you're pointing out like as a father, some other husband, son, et cetera, et cetera, American, you know, Protestant, Christian, like you can get really granular, but you were assigned a slate of identities at birth that demanded something of you. Where in the modern world, even if you're born and you become a conservative, it's too late. That's already been severed because of how liberalism functions. And so you're seeing, I think what you're talking about is a lot of young men struggling is because now they realize they're coming into life as a husk. Like, I don't have any responsibilities, nothing binding me. And so they have this menu of identities that they can choose from. And when you hear that, you instantly think of LGBT people or whatever, where it's like. But you see this on the right, where men will start adopting very kind of strange sort of identities and traits. And it's because, to their defense, they didn't have any pre assigned. So they are forced as a adult to sort of rebuild themselves in a sense. And so some people nail it, but a lot of guys just end up miserable because they're, you know, in a weird fit or something.
- [93:35]
Carter
We're gonna jump back to the story we were covering in the first one, but a new element of it. See, I wanted to be a little bit more serious in terms of political discussion, but now I don't. This is a. An excerpt from the Graham Platner story on the New York Times where he said that if any of. If anybody ever broke into his house, or he said, quote, if anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them in a sexual way, not in a gay way. He was like, I would rape them to show them that I'm dominant. Asked about those remarks, a Platner campaign official did not dispute them. A friend who knew Mr. Platner and Ms. Fifield during that period said the comments sounded out of character. Apparently, it's not a dispute. Platner threatened to rape men who would break into his house. I guess he said, if anybody. So I guess that would include women. I just don't think a lot of women would be breaking into his house. But, you know.
- [94:30]
Tate
Well, I have to say, I mean, and this is a guy with a Totenkop tattoo. This might be his most right wing thing he's done or said, because again, this idea, this is like Greco. This is like very Hellenic tendencies, like, like literally dominate a man who's your.
- [94:45]
Carter
Over this sentence.
- [94:46]
Tate
A sexual way, not in a gay way. Yeah, there's something to. I mean, look, I'm not endorsing this. I'm against this for the record. But I am saying that is like, very rooted in deep, like, Greek tradition. But it's like, true because, like, you can see if you get a group of guys together and you're watching like, you know, like football or something, and the ref just creeps, keeps, like, just making horrible calls, one of your friends is going to say, I want to rape that guy. And it's like, that's like a real thing. That Happens again. I think it's, I don't, I don't know what circles. You're very masculine.
- [95:12]
Phil
Is that a new masculine ones?
- [95:13]
Tate
Huh?
- [95:14]
Carter
Yeah. No Greek ones, huh?
- [95:15]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah.
- [95:15]
Tate
We shouldn't be threatening to rape as rape is wrong. I know. That's like a freezing cold take these days with how far the zeitgeist has moved along against like raping and not a gay way. That's like a, like Democrats are for it.
- [95:26]
Carter
They're going to, they want to vote for this guy.
- [95:27]
Tate
Yeah.
- [95:27]
Carter
Maybe defending him.
- [95:28]
Tate
Maybe I'll go to a little liberal and denounce this. But, but no, in all actuality, I think this just shows that he's like completely mentally unstable. He's not actually like illustrating the traditional right wing.
- [95:37]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, there's a, you're absolutely right. And there's a resurgence in a lot of circles on, I know this kind of right wing stuff. And that's also what I'm trying to warn against is like, no, all those traits because they'll call Christians Christ cucks. Yeah, all this kind of stuff. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get to do that. We have the Christian west and we, we conquered you and we adopted your best ideas and got rid of this nonsense. We're not going back this way.
- [96:02]
Tate
We'll take the Christmas tree. But we're leaving the rape behind.
- [96:04]
Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, we're gonna leave that right behind. Thank you.
- [96:06]
Tate
No, but, yeah, so like this clearly, apparently, I think, no, I was making a joke, kind of a wink in the knot. But like, in all actuality, like, this demonstrates metal instability. I don't think this is attached to any like, Nietzschean ideas, really. I think he's just a mentally unstable, like, psychopath. And I think this very clearly illustrates this.
- [96:22]
Carter
I, I, I gotta say, like, I think he was macking on this chick, you know, like, he's flex could be gay. He's saying like, she's, she's sitting there talking to him and he's like, yeah, I wouldn't let someone break in here. And she's like, what would you do if someone broke in? I'd rape him. She's like, really? What would you do? Not in a gay way though.
- [96:39]
Tate
Yeah, but you know, we all know, like, tough guys, you know, these guys who do a tough guy routine.
- [96:43]
Jay Chase Davis
Like, if I was there, I would
- [96:45]
Tate
do this and that. I'd beat the crap out of him. And you're like, okay, dude, yeah, or whatever. But if you're with one of your buddies and he's like, I swear, if that guy walks, I'm gonna rape him. You'd be like, dude, this guy's crazy.
- [96:55]
Carter
No, we'd be like, this guy's gay.
- [96:57]
Tate
I'd be like, yeah, but, dude, some of the. Some of the scariest people I know are, like, really gay.
- [97:03]
Carter
Like, the question is for Graham. How would he get it up? He's, like, crazy.
- [97:10]
Tate
He's a psychopath.
- [97:11]
Carter
He's hot for it, dude. Yeah, he's getting all hot and bothered. The guy breaks in, is like, oh, this is my fetish.
- [97:16]
Phil
He's hot for it.
- [97:17]
Carter
Yeah. Waiting for you all night. He sits. He sits in his living room. He's got, like, signs outside. Like, this. This. This home has no guns. Like, the door is, like, swinging open.
- [97:26]
Tate
He's sitting there and be like, my dog is lovely. Are you a homer shooter? Are you just excited to see me?
- [97:32]
Carter
You ever see that bit James o' Keefe did where he went door to door and he was like, you know, we're anti gun activists. You're like, we want to get gun control in the houses. They're like, yeah, that's fantastic. We agree. It's like, would you sign this petition to. Sure. And he goes, we actually have this sign. Would you want to put up? It says gun Free home.
- [97:46]
Tate
Yeah.
- [97:46]
Carter
And the guy's like, well, no. And he's like, well, why not? He's like, isn't that kind of inviting? You know, like criminals? And then James like, kind of sounds like you're saying you need a gun to stop crime. And he's like, well, I don't know. They don't want to advertise. They don't have guns, but they don't want anybody having guns. Amazing.
- [98:05]
Tate
Can you imagine? Graham Platner is like, the ADT sign, but it's like, I will rape you if you break in. Like, that'd be. You wouldn't break into that house. I'm sorry. Like, if you put.
- [98:12]
Carter
No, no, actually San Francisco.
- [98:14]
Tate
You put guns on there or whatever, like, people would probably still break in. But if it said, you will get, like, danger rapists in here, you'd be like, I'm not.
- [98:21]
Phil
I couldn't help but notice. I couldn't help but notice that. That Tim started talking about guns and you started. You brought it right back.
- [98:26]
Tate
I mean, that's the scariest thing I've heard in a long time. And I like, you know, we get death threats all the time here at Tim Gas. We don't really get raped. That would be terrifying. I would be Head on a swivel.
- [98:35]
Carter
If Graham Platner lived in San Francisco and publicly stated, you break into my house, I will rape you, he'd have like 700 burglary attempts in like, yeah, 12 hours.
- [98:45]
Phil
A bunch of twinks just like, where's that bear?
- [98:49]
Carter
They'd be like, oh, no, you caught me. Like, walks into his living room and there's just like a bunch of naked guys. And he's like, all right, who's first?
- [98:58]
Tate
I'm campaigning.
- [99:01]
Carter
I warned you.
- [99:02]
Phil
But more about guns with Platner, he. It's worth noting, it's worth noting that he, he did admit to, to one of the girls that he was talking to that he had an AR15 in D.C. that's something that a lot of people aren't talking about. That's the, that's an actual crime and everyone's focusing on the bad behavior. But like, allegedly he had an AR15 DC apartment.
- [99:22]
Carter
So she said. Fifield said he kept an AR15 lying around his apartment on Capitol Hill and would sharpen an ax. A relic from his time working on the Appalachian Trail before he enlisted in the Marines. He had what she described as a warrior ethos and would fantasize about killing people he deemed a threat. She said, she said he told her that rape was about power. I gotta be honest, I think he just secured the suburban woman vote. Like every woman rating. This is just getting all hot and bothered being like, he's got a gun illegally and he sharpens his ax, threatening to murder people and he wants to rape. Like, this sounds like 50 shades of gray, but you know, the Democrat Party
- [100:00]
Tate
edition, like an axe wielding rapist. That sounds like one of my mutuals on Twitter. I think of like two dozen guys that probably fit that description who would
- [100:07]
Carter
rape guys at the same time.
- [100:09]
Tate
Yeah.
- [100:09]
Jay Chase Davis
How did this guy even get in, like up.
- [100:11]
Carter
He said, I would rape them to show that I'm dominant. Platner, who had overlapping relationship with other women while he and Ms. Fifield dated, also referred to women as hatchet wounds.
- [100:23]
Tate
Yeah, this guy's terrif. I'm gonna say scary.
- [100:27]
Carter
He's gonna get Luigi Mangione. Like they're, they're gonna be cheering and dancing form. Women are going to be like, this is the hottest thing ever. They love it.
- [100:34]
Tate
That's the unfortunate reality. It's like, I mean, we've made this point on the show multiple times, but like, men will unwind with like, I don't know, you know, like a documentary about like a fascinating historical figure. You know, maybe like, you Know, a Ken Burns documentary or something. Women will unwind with like the actualing rapist. The documentary. And they're like, this is great stuff. You should sit down and watch.
- [100:53]
Phil
You just watch crime shows all the time. And yeah, literally, it's, it's scary.
- [100:56]
Tate
Yeah. So no, Graham, I mean, this thing, this does illustrate. This guy is like, you know, when we use the word all the time, but he like genuinely is mentally unstable. I don't really have much more to add. I, I denounce, obviously. I think we go on the. Do we all denounce this?
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Jay Chase Davis
Totally denounce, yeah. I'm just shocked. Like.
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Carter
But wait, like, like denounce Platner's actions?
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Tate
Just denouncing like rape broadly, I think would be helpful, obviously, because that's a scary threat. Dude. I'm like worried.
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Phil
I want us to, I want to show.
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Carter
I heard you're talking about me.
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Tate
Well, because the Democrats are like, we had this masculinity problem for a while. What if they all just turn into ax wielding rapists? Like, it's over for us. Dude, that's terrifying.
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Jay Chase Davis
This goes back to the Shane Gillis bit where the Vikings come over and like, you know, they're, they're intimidating and then they raise the rainbow flag of.
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Tate
Yeah, literally.
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Jay Chase Davis
And you're like, oh, that's worse.
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Tate
I know, I know. That's, I'm like, I'm, I'm not crazy. That's terrifying. Yeah. Like right now we can, this is easy. We can handle this. They're like, you know, maybe it's, it's actually really masculine to cry. Like, I can handle that. That's easy to deal with.
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Carter
You guys want to, I'm just going to throw it out there. You guys want to know what the definition of rigged is? It's decision desk calling the two. The top two primary for Javier Becerra, who's in second place while arguing. Steve Hilton in first place is vying for second place. No joke. Decision was made 8:58pm Javier Becerra as one of two winners. And they're arguing currently that Hilton, despite being the front runner, might lose to Stire, who's 400,000 votes behind him.
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Tate
Yeah, yeah. I mean, interesting, huh?
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Phil
It's, it's, it's frustrating. It's very frustrating.
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Tate
I mean, and look, I mean, not to beat a dead horse, but we should have seen this coming when, you know, the, at first Hilton and Bianca were topping the jungle primary before Swallow jumped out and someone asked Gavin Newsom jump out. Well, you know, before. And then someone Asked Gavin Newsom, what are we going to do, you know, if it ends up with two Republic. Because the whole point of the jungle primary was to lock Republicans out of power forever.
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Carter
Yeah.
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Tate
And it's ended up being that all the Democrats jump in the race and it ruins it. But they asked Gavin Newsom, what are you going to do if it ends up in a runoff between Hilton and Bianco? And he said, well, I have some, you know, I have some tools in my toolbox to ensure we don't end up with two Republicans. So like he was basically explaining out in the open like, yeah, I'll rig it, don't worry.
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Phil
Yeah. Which I mean, we should, when you said we should have seen it coming, like, you can just, just, just by the fact that there is an election coming, you know that the Democrats are going to be rigging it. Like it's, it's kind of, it's a standard operating procedure. And, and it is exhausting to continue to see this stuff and not be able to do anything about it.
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Tate
Yeah. I mean, look, Trump, Trump does have some tools at his disposal. So what he could do is so he can start. Well, what he has at his disposal is he can start campaigning for litigation. So if there's a state level litigation, right. Someone sues the state of California or whatever, that gives the doj, if it's credible grounds, which it likely is, that gives the DOJ precedent to go in and investigate. So they can start investigating, they can issue subpoenas, etcetera, etcetera. What can then end up happening is again, if a DOJ investigation does turn things up, they can't force a recount, but the Californians could potentially force a recount. That would be the situation that could play out. But that doesn't seem terribly likely. But to be fair, I mean, California has issued a recall election fairly recently. It went terribly. But at least that shows that I'm not going to, you know, I don't think the California GOP is going to necessarily like roll over on this if there really is a rig. And I think the DOJ is sniffing around this like, I'm not black pilled on this at all. I think this is on the DOJ's radar. I can just say, like I have on, I have on direct good authority that the doj, this is on their radar. So I'm not terribly worried here.
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Carter
But California is.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, but even with like Colorado, for example, Tina Peters, she goes to jail because she was trying to catch election fraud and Trump pardoned her and they still kept her in jail. Finally, Polis now has released Tina or is planning to, but his whole party's pissed about it, right? Because it was so apparent he was releasing somebody else. Another corrupt politician let her off. I believe it was a woman. And then Tina is just suffering in jail. This patriot who was trying to secure elections and make sure it was all good. So anywhere they get power, they're, they're a threat, the true threat to democracy. You know, maybe, maybe they're always, they always have been.
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Tate
Colorado is the most egregious case in the country because it was a swing state with the McCain election. Even the Romney election was considered a swing state. And now it's one of the safest blue states in the country.
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Jay Chase Davis
It's insane.
- [105:43]
Tate
It's insane. And you could maybe chalk that up to like interstate movement or even immigration, but clearly that was a bureaucratic entrenchment that happened there.
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Jay Chase Davis
It's a lot of bureaucratic entrenchment. It's a lot of, they know how to get power and they pursue power. They relentlessly want power. And so what happened with Colorado, I believe it was in 92. They passed an amendment to ban gay marriage back then. And the homosexuals just got so angry about that and so offended about that that they made it their mission. You can go read about it. There's multiple books that have been published on the, the plan to take over Colorado and to turn it blue. So it's, it's an immigration thing and it wasn't just happenstance and it's not just institutional. It was a set out plan. How are we going to turn it blue? We're going to take these tech guys who just so happen to be gay, and we're going to just flood the market with money, demoralize the base because there's a lot of good people, just like in California, there's a lot of good people in Colorado. And a lot of these states who just don't either have representation or the GOP there is pretty feckless. And they don't want to either go along with Trump, don't want to upset people, and they have a bunch of compromisers in the ranks. And so they won't accrue power, won't pass legislation, and won't they have no vision for punishing their enemies. Like, they view that as like ungodly. And it's like that's totally not true.
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Tate
I mean, the fact that the California GOP and I don't know, this isn't my domain, you know, the statewide affairs of the GOP in California. But the fact that they weren't on the same page and ran two Republicans is a bit of a problem because again, Bianco right now it seems like he's taking about 10 to 15% of the general ballot vote right now. Again, he has the right to run. To be fair, he's a native Californian. Steve Hilton moved here or whatever, but clearly it was obvious that Steve Hilton was gonna be the guy. He had the backing of Trump, the national gop, Fox News. Clearly he's gonna be the candidate. And I love Chad Bianco. I think he's great. But at a certain point it should have been like, let's consolidate around one guy. This pipe dream of it being two Republicans and winning the jungle primary because what are.
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Jay Chase Davis
The Democrats know how to do this because they get rid of Swalwell, right?
- [107:41]
Tate
Yeah.
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Jay Chase Davis
They know exactly how to handle a sandbag.
- [107:43]
Tate
Katie Porter.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah.
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Carter
Yeah. So we are going to go to your comments, your Rumble rants and super chats. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. And then the uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10pm you don't want to miss it because it's going to get spicy. I've got. There's a big story. I'm not going to talk too much about it because it's racy and violent, but it will be very interesting. It's going to be@rumble.com Timcast IRL. But in the meantime, we'll grab your chats. Silas5G says, can we say something about Henry Novak and the situation in Britain? Yeah, I mean, it's, it's insane. Apparently now they're saying that the seat guy who murdered Henry Novak was filming and taunting him as he was laying there dying, oh God, for several minutes. And the cops show up and they're like, oh, he's racist. Better lock him up. Yeah, I think it's, I don't think you are, mate.
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Tate
It's one of those, I know I talked about earlier, the demoralization porn, but I think this is a good example to show that things are actually maybe even a bit worse than people realize. And again, a lot of Americans are resting on their laurels and they're saying, well, that's Britain. You know, they're crazy over there. Like they have all these corrupt police etc, and it's like true. But the underlying tension that led to that murder is very much present in the United States. We do have a bit more of like buffer zone because our police are a lot more based. There's something weird about the British police. We don't have hate crime laws or like hate speech laws per se. But that same mechanism that led to Henry Novak's death is absolutely present in the United States. And we can list countless examples of why that's true. But that video specifically, I can only watch it once. It's one, you know, in this business, like you watch, unfortunately, I hate to say, but you watch like gruesome videos all the time. Like, you, you develop a pretty good stomach for that kind of stuff. And if you have a Twitter account, you see it all the time. That video, I can't rewatch it. I mean, it is legitimately simultaneously so enraging that you almost want to like, vomit and unbelievably depressing, unbelievably tragic. And, you know, I, I do. I was talking to Steven. I had him on the show on Tuesday. He's a good friend of mine, but he's. He's a fantastic guy, super smart, loves his country, works for GB News. And he did say, and this is. He's not a guy that is dramatic. He's a no drama guy. He doesn't say platitudes. Every word he says is careful, calculated. He means what he says. He said he believes that this will be a turning point in Britain, that legitimately the average British person is not going to see things the same way after this.
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Carter
That would be maybe. I don't know that I believe that, but.
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Tate
Well, I think you do see it because, I mean, the uniparty is going to be crushed there. I mean, the reforms topping the polls and restore Britain's, you know, picking up quite a bit of steam. So I think that this is going to effectively guarantee that reform when the next election, barring some serious scandal.
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Carter
All right, we got Christian Unc. He says, Tim, what do you think about PlayStation State of Play? Did you see Cuck of War, Ugly Jean Grey, Deborah Wilson as Callisto and her voice in Ace Combat 8. Do you think Xbox Showcase will be better or woke too? So I don't think you guys have seen any of this stuff, have you?
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Phil
I saw the.
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Carter
They're doing God of War Loffy. It's starring. The main character will be Faye, played by Deborah Ann Wall. And they put the ugly filter on her. They put the ugly filter on her and this is what they do. And the funny and. And also for ugly Jean Grey, for the Wolverine game that came out. Jean Grey is fugly. They gave her a weird asymmetrical face. With, like, a twisted nose and she's ugly. And it's crazy that feminists, instead of being like, hey, why do you keep making the female characters ugly? They go, men are. Men are stupid for thinking women are ugly or getting mad about it. No, no, no. Feminists, feminists, listen. Deborah Annual is attractive. She is a famous actress in one of the biggest Disney shows right now with Daredevil. I don't know. She might have a cameo in the Spider man movie. We'll see, because Daredevil's gonna be in it. They. They made her the lead for this game, and they put her through the Ugly filter. And what these guys have done is they did renderings showing. You don't need to make her a gigantic, boobed, weird, bimbo looking woman. You can just smooth at the face a little bit and make Deborah Annual look like she does on TV shows, Just give her a little makeup instead. They make her ugly. And I got. I got to tell you guys, this is called the Ugly Filter. I don't know if y' all have ever seen the actress who play. Who was the model for Aloy in Horizon Zero Dawn. Let me. Let me do this. I'm gonna show you guys what's called the Ugly Filter. I'm gonna prove it for you. You guys are going to be like, this doesn't make any sense. Okay, so let me. Let me. Let me load up some of these images. First. I want to show you the actress who was the model for. For the character is this Dutch actress named. What's. What's her name? Let me. Let me find a nice picture of her. Hannah Hoekstra. Okay, let me. This is kind of a grainy image, but we'll pull it up anyway. Here you go. Here's Hannah. She's a. She's a Dutch actress. They used her as the model. Let me. Let me pull this one up. She's the model for the character Aloy in Horizon, the Horizon series. Hey, look at that. She's an attractive woman, right? Here's what they made using her likeness. You ready for this one? We call that the Ugly Filter. That is not the same person. That's insane. Why did they do that? Why did they bring on this attractive young model and say, we're going to scan your face to make a character and then we're going to make her ugly.
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Jay Chase Davis
I'd be pissed.
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Carter
Like, but why?
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Jay Chase Davis
That's what they want to do everywhere. I mean, they were flaunting obese women on billboards telling us, this is beautiful. Like, three years ago. Of course, now everybody's got GLP1s and so now. But this is like what the left does. They hate humanity. They want to destroy humanity. They want to destroy our civilization.
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Tate
They.
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Jay Chase Davis
They want no future for children. And so anything that's beautiful, anything that's good, anything that's true, they're going to corrupt and pervert and invert and flaunt it and show their power. And look, we can take anything from you and make it ugly, but beauty
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Phil
implicitly creates hierarchy, and it's hierarchy that no one has control over. You're born beautiful or you're not born beautiful. The left absolutely hates that kind of stuff.
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Jay Chase Davis
And it discriminates by saying something's beautiful or something ugly. You're saying, look, I have a discerning sense of taste, and I prefer one and not the other. And that's illegal. In a liberal, egalitarian framework, you can't do that kind of thing. And beauty has been the chief marketplace for the left for a long time. Conservatives have not paid attention to this. But I think that's the chief vector for a lot of. For a lot of leftist ideology is taking over beauty and then trying to promote a vision which now everyone can see. This is ridiculous.
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Carter
You know, my, My. My counterargument, though, is it's a secret style scop to get to promote natalism. And my argument is, so there's this thing called power creep in. In card games. And it's. It's power creep exists in all things, right? But one example I like to give is Magic the Gathering. So in the early. The very earliest Magic the Gathering cards, I got a bunch behind me, if you can see them, they had cards that were so psychotically powerful, they were like, okay, we did not understand the nature of card games. We got. We got to get rid of these cards. They banned them all out, right? Probably one of the most powerful cards in the game is called Black Lotus. It's, like, worth $5 million if you get one in, like, grade 10. So anyway, they reduce dramatically the power of the game, slowing it down. And then every time they release a new set to keep the game fresh, they have to introduce new game mechanics and new cards that invariably become more powerful. They're faster, they're stronger. Suffice it to say, if you were playing with 4th edition from 1994, 95, you would get absolutely crushed by a set that came out in 1998, because the cards are just getting stronger and stronger. So there was a set that was released. It's called the Block it was three different magic sets, Urza's Saga, Legacy and Destiny. And it was bonkers. The cards were fast, powerful games were over. Super fast.
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Phil
Academy, exactly.
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Carter
They banned, they, they banned so many of these cards, Talan Academy being one of them. And so the next set to come out, I believe after this was Mercadian Mask. And wizards at the time said, we are going to make this set the worst possible set imaginable. The cards were just like, just miserably weak, super slow, boring. And it was really incongruous trying to play in the, in modern tournaments or in standard tournaments, I should call them. Like, I meant modern like at the time because you have like two sets that are just ridiculously strong and it's really trash that nobody's going to use. But once they rotate out the older sets that were really powerful, you're only left with three really trashy sets. And everyone's brains readjusts to the speed of the game. My point is we've been inundated with perfect celebrity, big tittied women and, and, and porn. So young men have this view of women that is not attainable and not real. And so I say this somewhat facetiously. The gaming industry goes, we have to, we have to nerf women because of the power creep. So they're like, we need to stop showcasing all these like perfect, big titty beautiful model women because it's ruining young men's brains and they're not satisfied with regular women. So what they do is they crank up the ugly filter, start showing nothing but fat, ugly women, and then guys reduce their standards quite a bit. And I'm mostly joking. I think the real reason they're doing this because feminists are jealous and they, they're ugly. And so they're like, women should look like us. But they don't put big fat guys in games. You know, I mean, well, I guess technically they do sometimes. The main characters are always just ridiculously ripped, dehydrated looking guys. So anyway, to your question, yeah, I saw it. And it's ridiculous that they put the ugly filter on women every time. And I'm just saying, one more time, ladies, ladies, feminists should be mad that they're doing this to you. Okay? Deborah and Wall is a beautiful woman. They should not have put the ugly filter on her. But you know what? If you're going to keep defending the ugly filter, then that's on you anyway. All right, Evan for us says, if I'm not mistaken, the Bible tells us that Christ will come when every nation bows to him and say that he is Lord. Christianity will never fade from this earth. Deus wolt.
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Jay Chase Davis
Amen.
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Carter
Is that true? That Christ will not come until every nation bows to him?
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Jay Chase Davis
That verse is. That's one interpretation of that verse. The application of the verse is basically like, we need to be evangelizing and discipling the nations. We believe that as Christians we should be discipling the nations and we should be honestly going into nations, promoting Christianity, promoting the one true religion and, yeah, bringing them into submission. But as it currently stands, Christ is seated on his throne ruling the nations now, and he will return with a rod of iron to judge those nations who are unfaithful. And. And yeah, all the nations belong to Christ. This was the. The faulty. The temptation of Christ where Satan says, I'll give you the nations. Jesus knew that not only he rebutted him with scripture, but he didn't need to do that. He needed to go to the cross and rise from the grave and ascend. And now he's seated at the right hand of God where he rules and reigns eternally. So, yes, we do need to evangelize. That's part of the Great Commission. We do need to go into all the nations. The nations do belong to Christ and it's our job to take them for Christ.
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Carter
Lava Bear says, remember, quote, those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything. Correct. Think of our lives as we can help deport illegal. Step one, order food delivery, ride services. Step two, when a driver can't speak English, snap a pick of the plate. Ice takes tips of sus illegals. I don't know that just because they can't speak English, it means that they're illegal, though. So you may just be inundating ice with false tips, which actually makes it worse. So it might work. I'm not sure. What I can say is whenever someone shows up via doordash and it's clearly not the person whose account it is. Now I'm off. And they've actually, I think they've been fixing this. I think they address it because we brought up. Brought it up on the show. But we had this period where we'd order food and it would be like, KDS is coming. And then some, like, Mexican dude pulls up in a car and he goes like, katie's my wife. And we'd be like, turn around. Get out of here. We're not taking. We don't. Who are you? And they'd be like, oh, it's my wife. I'm like, nope. Report. We'd be like some strange person was clearly. And it pisses me off because it. Even if. What happens if it says John and a guy shows up and I'm supposed to assume this is John? Ridiculous. They should be shown, like on Uber, you see the guy's face in his license plate. Doordash and seamless and all. They should be doing the same thing.
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Tate
An easy fix would just be at random points during your shift that just asks you to verify, like, briefly.
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Carter
That would solve all the problems or every job. It's like. Except the job. Yes, please take a picture of your face. The problem there is the guy would just take a pic. Like, they would just have the phone at home then. And give the instructions to the person to go do it without the app.
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Phil
Yeah, you could, but just face ID
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Tate
could do that with your pen and all that.
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Carter
One thing that's pretty crazy is like the Dasher delivery fraud stuff. Like, people will walk into a McDonald's and walk up to the mobile delivery box and just grab the food and walk out. Nobody stops them.
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Tate
I know. So sad. When I lived in Manhattan, when the local Chipotle, when I first started going, they had the shelves. You could put your mobile, order in your feed, be on the shelf. Feels so nice. Because you could just be like 15 minutes, you walk by, you grab your food, you're out. And then like literally six months into discovering this, they took the shelf away and they moved behind the counter.
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah.
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Tate
And I was like, it's the socioeconomic problems.
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Carter
All right, let's. Let's, let's read this.
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Tate
Change of consumer habits.
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Carter
Eric. Eric Shaver says if a fantasy world full of hemoglobin siphoners who vamp out at the sight of a symbol and a hunter goes around flashing in their face, then one bites him, so he feeds it a stake. Who's the bad guy to give a mouse a cookie reference or something?
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Tate
It's very.
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Carter
You're saying if a guy kills a vampire, you know, is that the point? Marusha says, tim, please don't give up on law and principles. Indeed, they're what separate us from the bad guys. The problem isn't having them, it's failure to enforce them. You lose if your enemies beat you and also you become them. Agreed. I am going to call the AG right now and demand he arrested every young couple that is cohabitating in West Virginia. I'm not sure that's the law.
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Tate
Two allies.
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Jay Chase Davis
Okay.
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Carter
Hey, look.
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Phil
Looks like
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Tate
it's not personal, but look.
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Phil
Laws, law, happen to my kid.
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Tate
Principle, you know? Well, separate them from the parents, you know, and it's going to be the cage. Maybe there's a cage.
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Carter
There are betrayed me problem with this country, one of the problems we have, and I'm not saying it's just unique to us, but it exists, is that we have laws in the books that no longer exist for, but can be enforced. And what I mean is there are laws that are on the books that no one thinks make any sense. Like you can't put a pie on your windowsill on Tuesday, but the cops can come and search your house if you. If you break that law. So we need to have sunset clauses on all of the laws that we. That we pass, all of them always.
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Phil
I think. I think that makes perfect sense.
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Carter
Indeed.
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Jay Chase Davis
No, the pie on the windowsill is actually important in Colorado. In our home in Colorado, our family cabin, a bear broke in.
- [122:52]
Carter
Indeed. That's why it's actually illegal. Yeah, a lot of places.
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Jay Chase Davis
Exactly. So please keep that law.
- [122:57]
Carter
So there are. In the. In the. In the. In the east and northeast, there are states where it's illegal on certain days to put pies out on your windowsill. And it sounds weird to the average person today. Like, why? Well, on. It's because on Tuesday, that's typically when people were gathering at the town center for, you know, public meetings, and they didn't want to attract wild animals.
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Phil
Oh.
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Carter
So they said, don't put pies in the window on Tuesdays. Today you're like, huh, that makes no sense because you could be in a skyscraper. Like, maybe I want to put a pie in my window. I want it to cool, you know, put by the window, get some air.
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Jay Chase Davis
Straight to jail.
- [123:31]
Carter
Nope.
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Tate
You're done.
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Carter
But it's the thing. No cops gonna arrest you. But. But here's the other thing. If they want a reason to do so, they can say he was in violation of a public ordinance. We know it wasn't the most extreme of crime, but he had a pie on the windowsill.
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Tate
Stephen Miller's gonna use that at some point.
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Jay Chase Davis
I hope he does.
- [123:46]
Tate
He comes through all those ancient laws. He was rhubarb pie. He's done. You're gone.
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Carter
All right, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show. We got a crazy story to talk about. It's racy and it's violent, and I'm gonna get real mean with it. So we'll save the story for there. Go to rumble.com, timcast, IRL for the uncensored portion of the show. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Sir, do you want to shout anything out?
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Jay Chase Davis
Yeah, you can buy my book offensivechristianitybook.com that's where you need to go. It's also available on Amazon. You can follow me on Twitter at jchase Davis. You can also Visit my website Jchase
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Tate
Davis.com youm can follow me on X and Instagram at realtape Brown. And yeah, make sure you buy this book. I got a copy a few days ago. I'm through the first chapter and it is fantastic so far. So where can people buy it again?
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Jay Chase Davis
OffensiveChristianityBook.com yes, get over there.
- [124:40]
Tate
You thankfully sent me a copy but
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Jay Chase Davis
I need to sign yours.
- [124:43]
Tate
Yeah, need to sign one. But yeah, make sure you head on over there, Phil.
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Phil
I am Phil. That remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Deezer. We're also playing Warp Tour in Washington D.C. next Sunday on the 14th. You can get your tickets at I believe it's warp tour dot com. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
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Carter
I'm Carter Banks. You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and at Carter Banks official everywhere else. Be sure to follow our label at Trash House Records on YouTube. Drop a promo last night and go check it out. We'll see you all@rumble.com Timcast IRL right now. Thanks for hanging out.