Nate Friedman (5:19)

Thanks for having me, Tim. I appreciate it.

Tim Pool (5:20)

Who are you? What do you do?

Nate Friedman (5:21)

I'm a boots on the ground journalist, independent. And I follow the money. I expose some paid protesters and I also ask people who they're voting for. You know, so.

Tim Pool (5:31)

Indeed, indeed. I watch a lot of your videos on Instagram, especially the ones where you track down these paid protesters. And I love it because I've made reference to this. I haven't done street stuff for a while because at a certain point too many followers, they start targeting you and you move out of that space. But we knew these people, we called them the tourists. When people like Luke Rudkowski and I would go on the ground, you see the exact same people at every single protest, no matter what city you're in. And in fact, Turkey, even China. That's how insane it is. I have questions. So it's great that you're here and I was kidding. But Nick is actually on the ground covering those protests and we'll probably take a look at what's going on in New York in a moment. But should be interesting. A lot is here.

Elad Eliyahu (6:12)

Good evening, everybody. Nate, so much. Thank you so much for coming on. I think your work's invaluable. I keep up with all your paid protester coverage. I think it's very important and good. So kudos to you. My name's Elad Eliyahu. I'm the White House correspondent here at Tim Cast. Also Jewish affairs correspondent and now also the Pentagon reporter.

Tim Pool (6:29)

That's right.

Elad Eliyahu (6:30)

So I feel like Marco Rubio just getting all these new job titles. What's up, Brett?

Brett Dasovic (6:34)

What's going on, guys? Brett, normally doing Pop Culture crisis Monday through Friday at 3pm but we got a bunch of stuff to get into today.

Tate Brown (6:41)

It's true. Tate Brown here. What's up guys? Tate Brown holding it down. Great panel tonight. So I'm excited. Let's get into it.

Tim Pool (6:47)

Here's a story from the Washington Post. The Pentagon announces a new right wing Press corps after mass walkout, a new crop of conservative media and influencers, including the Gateway Pundit, the Post, Millennial Human Events, and National Pulse, signed an agreement with the Defense Department. The corporate press staged a walk out of the Pentagon. And I don't believe for a second it had anything to do with the Pentagon's policies. I think it has everything to do with the cult. Apparently there were reporters who did not care and said, I have no problem signing this. And they were bullied by other media organizations, threats of being blacklisted, never working in this town again. And a lot of these journalists were like, okay, I'll do whatever you say. That's why they're mad at us, and I can prove it to you. It's actually really simple logic. I'll say this because I won't bear the lead. We applied for a press credential. Thank you and have a nice day. That's it. We've never done any reporting from the Pentagon. We are not an investigative news organization. We are a podcast, news, commentary and interview show. We do not have journalists meeting with sources in parking garages while they kick over a manila folder with secret documents. We don't do any of that. At most, what we'll do is we'll say, Mr. Secretary, recently there were a drone strike on Venezuelan boats that you said were cartel and drug traffickers. The media is arguing that these are. These were civilians. Can you comment? That's the. That's the most that we actually do. That is journalism. It's just not investigative journalism. And they are acting like Tim Cast getting a press pass so that a lot can literally just say, Mr. Secretary, care to comment on the recent accusations made by the press so we can suss out some of their. Their thoughts and views on things? They're acting like this is the apocalypse. Take a look at what the Washington Post writes. Nearly one week since a rash of Pentagon journalists turned in their press credentials after refusing to sign a new restrictive press policy, the Defense Department. Defense Department? You mean Department of War. Announced a new. Okay, hold on a minute. It's the Department of War. They changed the name. You can be mad about it, but they did. They announced a new media press corps, largely hailing from right wing outlets. The 60 people from various news organizations present represent a broad spectrum of new media outlets and independent journalists. Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell wrote in a statement Wednesday on X, adding that all of the publications agreed to the agency's press policy. According to a draft of the announcement obtained by the Washington Post. Ahead of Parnell's, tweet. The coalition of signatories include the Cable News Network, Real America's Voice streaming service, Lindell tv, the websites, the Gateway Pundit, the Post, Millennial Human Events, the National Pulse, Red State. It includes Turning Point USA's media brand frontlines, as well as influencer Tim Pool's Tim Cast and a substack based newsletter called Washington Reporter. The memo said that many independent journalists also signed, but did not specify who they were. The Defense Department's policy blocks journalists from soliciting information the department is not authorized for release, even unclassified details. A major shift in press outreach from the organization. This is a gross exaggeration and manipulation over what is actually going on. Now I will tell you my. Our statement. You know, there's a bunch of journalists insulting me and ragging on us and they're crying. And that shows you one thing. They were never journalists. They are partizan cultists. They are angry that we will not march in lockstep with their culture. This is very simple. We have never been to the Pentagon. I think actually a couple producers. Did you go Tate, it was. Who went? Kellen and. And Sean. They went recently after an invite over how we could potentially interview people in. In the Department of War if we were to do a podcast. That was about it. Then all of this happened. That is the extent we've ever been there. Elad has a White House press credential so that he can go in the press briefing room and the Oval Office when able and ask questions. We are not investigative. Investigative journalists to a certain degree, maybe sometimes a lot's going to dig into a story he might find some details on. But we don't dedicate our time to trying to uncover malfeasance and untoward behavior from corporations or government. As investigators, I applaud all those who do. That work is tremendous. It's important. Fantastic. For what reason is it an affront to anyone that our organization said we would like to attend some press briefings to ask some questions just like any other journalist who does. They're acting like the fact that we are there is some. They're insulting us over it. It's inane. And they're acting like something's wrong with journalism in the country because we requested a press pass. Isolate every news organization that they offered this to. First and foremost, the Pentagon offered everyone. Every organization was afforded the exact same opportunity with their. With their memorandum. These are just the organizations that looked it over and said, okay, I guess. And you'll notice one thing. You'll notice it's not so much that they're conservative leaning, independent otherwise, it's that these are organizations that typically did not get access to these institutions. Now, certainly, I think there are many people who are just going to pony up to Trump no matter what he does. And he's always right and always going to do right. He can never do wrong. I'm not going to play that game. I certainly have no problem criticizing Trump over the Epstein handling, nor Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, despite them being friends of the show. Criticism where criticism is due. I've levied some criticism at a lot of organizations on the right. This memo, we have pulled it up because the New York Times made it available. There's quite literally nothing, in my opinion, in here. That is, I gotta be honest, a lot of it is just parking. I'm not kidding. Press parking. Parking at the Pentagon. Reservation is restricted to vehicles permitted. And I'm reading through this and I'm like, oh, I just really don't care. I'm not going to park there. We'll get dropped off, we'll drop our equipment off. Whatever. Filming and photography and audio recording the Pentagon is prohibited unless approved in advance. This is true for Mo, I think, every military installation. Here's the issue. These journalists that were in the Pentagon, they were not journalists. They were Mockingbird media. The reason why they didn't have any, like, they could do whatever they wanted was because there was no distinction between them and the administrations they worked under. It was all a handshake agreement. And we all know they lied. They lied to the people. They're lying about this. Basically what they're saying right now is this agreement forces you to say that you won't solicit information unless they approve of it. It says you won't solicit confidential, classified or otherwise information and release it. Okay, let me just stress to everybody who's listening, you can turn in your press badge. That's it. So let's say you're at the Pentagon. You've got what's called the pfac, the press pass that you applied for. And you stumble upon a story for which you're like, whoa, hold on, I can't believe what I'm hearing. The American people need to know this. And so here's a guy, you're like, tell me what's going on with this. Now, there are some questions. If you facilitate in any way the leaking of classified information, it's actually a crime. Journalists can receive the information, but there's questions over where the line is. When they start to solicit that information, it actually becomes criminal. So in the event you find a story that is of massive, tremendous public knowledge, you already know about the story, you can ask for confirmation and details. That is not a crime. If the Pentagon has a problem with that, you can say, Mr. Hegseth, here's your press badge back. Adios. The issue at play here is they want to have their cake and eat it too. So I have a question. I mean, if there's an investigative journalist with no access to the Pentagon who works for Tate News Corp. And he's investigating the Pentagon, and then he goes to a lot from Tim Cast and says, take a look at this story that I've uncovered. What's stopping a lot from going, Mr. Secretary, we have a story that we got from Tate News Corp. Saying these things, they're, they're fabricating a reason to storm out of the press, out of the Pentagon. And I think the real issue here, and I apologize for the long rant, but I think the real issue here is the media was, was, was Mockingbird, the Biden administration, the Obama administration, the media was the government. It was all part of the same manipulation. That's why they had free rein to do whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted. And now that Trump is in and they hate him and he represents a new system emerging and taking over. Now the media says, quick, clear out because it's a cult. The new organizations that come in, what do you do when you're at the Pentagon? Is it commonplace that journalists just constantly walk around the Pentagon saying, leak me information? No, it's about going to press briefings, having interviews, and getting quick access to people in government. You can ask them about stories that are in the public sphere. So I don't know if you all agree, but that's my statement.

Brett Dasovic (15:50)

I mean, it seems like a very, like, easy manipulation for people who don't. Under plastic bags, plastic lids.

Tim Pool (15:58)

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Brett Dasovic (16:09)

Stand the way that this aspect of government and media works, that it's a very easy story to frame for people that paints the new media, as they call it, in a specific light while taking advantage of like a layperson's understanding of how press briefings work or how media structure works. It really, like if you're from an outsider looking in, it just looks like they' they don't like the idea of people that are outside of the club getting into the club.

Tate Brown (16:33)

Yeah, well, that's right. Yeah. And beyond that, I mean, the legacy media has an ax to grind with new media. So right off the rip, one side has a bone to pick with the other. So you obviously are gonna get some ridiculous reporting and. Yeah, I mean, even from the Pentagon's perspective, I mean, like, in the lead up to the story about the Pentagon media walkout, like every article they were running was just these leaked characterizations from unnamed Pentagon officials. There was no documents, there was no nothing. So it's like the Pentagon had holes to plug, obviously, because the media was just adversarial the entire time. So it's like they're throwing a fit and they were adversarial the entire time. It's like, get lost. Like, this is part of the reorientation towards new media because that's just the more useful, that provides more utility for Americans. Quite frankly, in my perspective, it's a.

Elad Eliyahu (17:22)

Privilege, not a right to be able to cover the White House, to be able to get into the Pentagon, to be able to ask questions at these briefings. As I understand, these journalists are used to trying to solicit information from Pentagon officials throughout the Pentagon, and they used to have the right to walk around the Pentagon building without an escort. I believe that's part of the rule change now where they will be required to walk around with an escort and won't be able to freely solicit, try to solicit information from different Pentagon officials just throughout the building. It's fascinating too, because the White House has these same rules. I can't la di da walk around any part of the White House. They have a specific area that. That the press is allowed into, a relatively small area. And then if you're ever trying to go anywhere extended beyond that, you have to be with somebody with your press past, present. If you are somewhere where you're not supposed to be, people will aggressively come up to you. Like, random White House people will be like, you need to be escorted here or you're not allowed to be in this area. I think this is largely in an effort, though, from Pete Hegseth to prevent leaks. And these unfavorable reporting that we are seeing on the Pentagon through disgruntled employees at the Pentagon. There are a lot of people there who aren't happy with how Pete Hegseth has been running the show over there. And they wanna, you know, they have an axe to grind, and they'll grind that axe through the media. And hexseth is trying to prevent that from occurring.

Tate Brown (18:36)

Yeah, well, it just shows that they're politicized within. It shows that there's a contingent. The same thing happened at the DOJ when there was the purge, the purge plan of the doj. And then all the media did was just establish that there is an insurgent group within the DOJ that is not following orders. They're not respecting the American people. And we voted. Voted in on Trump.

Tim Pool (18:55)

So, I mean, my. My. My reaction to all this is I'm sitting here being like, we. We used to have a small news team, but it was largely aggregation. We. There were a few stories that we broke when we had sources, but it was largely aggregation for the. For the purpose of collecting stories that we thought were important and putting them in a written format. Because I do videos, so I'm. I'm doing very surface level journalism every single day. When I put together, like, the noon show, I'm collecting a bunch of sources, fact checking, pulling in data points, and the old school media hates it for a variety of reasons. We've displaced them. We've taken away their. Their position as this. Like, they. They viewed themselves as. As a special elevated class of people above you. The. They had access to the. To the. To the ivory tower for which they could espouse their views. We destabilized that, and they got really mad at us. Now, seeing all of this and the reaction, I'm like, oh, maybe we should hire a bunch of journalists and do a legit. Like an actual newsroom. I mean, it's. It's. It's really a simple question. What is the purpose of being in the Pentagon? Do you need to be in the Pentagon to do an investigative report? The answer is no. No, not at all. Unless you're sneaking around, I guess.

Elad Eliyahu (20:02)

And if you have sources they can leak to you, you don't physically need to be in the building.

Tim Pool (20:05)

Exactly.

Elad Eliyahu (20:06)

I guess you don't have that moment of spontaneity where you're passing somebody in the hallway with a wink and a nod and then you can meet them and you're like, hey, you know, do you have any access to Grindr? You pissed at your. You know, any of your supporters, subordinates, or did your boss you off? Do you want to leak something stupid about them? And then, you know, ultimately it looks bad on the way up. I think there is a serious national security risk here with having all these reporters looking for scoops running around in the Pentagon. And I think they compromised national security with a lot of these Leaks, obviously, beyond the reporting, but when you do have some disgruntled soldiers. I forgot the name of the specific guy, but a couple of years ago, there were massive leaks, and that was a, A national security issue. It wasn't the WikiLeaks guy. But the Discord leaks. There's serious consequences.

Tim Pool (20:50)

Oh, yeah, wow.

Elad Eliyahu (20:51)

Oh, that was. There are serious consequences to this stuff, and we need to tighten things over at the Pentagon. We can't have, you know, pissed off employees leaking or pissed off employees accidentally leaking on Discord. I guess.

Tate Brown (21:01)

Yeah, well, because it's like, okay, the Pentagon is aware that there is a portion of their staffing that is disgruntled. So if the media is coming in with the sole intent of like, just finding these people, identifying who these people are, and then publicizing their messaging, like, they totally have the right to clamp down on this.

Tim Pool (21:18)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (21:18)

What are we doing?

Brett Dasovic (21:19)

The media really does have an ax to grind in a way. Like you said. Like, there's an aspect now where the people who pivoted and learned to pivot to something like YouTube or rumble, whatever it is, putting themselves in front of the camera, especially the written journalist class, hated that. Because the ability to write well doesn't always necessarily equate to being able to speak well on camera and being able to present media in an engaging way. This is something that's going on a lot of ways in Hollywood as well, which is like they're, they're trying to continue this old guard of how media is done while YouTube and these other platforms are starting to eclipse them.

Tim Pool (21:53)

Let me, let me, let me explain to you guys what this is really about. I have before you user mag, Taylor Lorenz's substack. So she worked for what, like the Atlantic, the Washington Post? How many likes do you think she gets on an article on her new independent? Well, that's a little low. Oh, it was displaying the likes a moment ago. Maybe if I zoom in. Oh, there it is. There it is. Oh, the likes are there. Yeah. 369. Wow.

Elad Eliyahu (22:21)

Oh.

Tim Pool (22:22)

975. 642 likes. That's great. 20 comments. She's getting nothing, right? I mean, this is, this is nothing. You're not living off of this. The issue is that people like Taylor Lorenz who don't have the skill, the merit, nay the nobility to even work for any kind of. To run any kind of media business or be in, they need to be propped up by the machine.

Brett Dasovic (22:46)

Well, look at somebody like a house inhabit who went from like, working as like a basically Just being a mommy blogger to being like a very, very prolific voice in aspects of politics and culture runs a substack that does very, very like incredible numbers. Somebody who has the ability, even if we' not talking, putting yourself in front of the camera, but somebody who writes well, is engaging, knows how to put together a package of information that really, really speaks to people, will succeed on their own. Substack is a way that people are doing that on a written platform. But the people who are resistant to change in media are going to have an axe to, you know, an axe to grind with everybody.

Tate Brown (23:22)

Well, but it's.

Elad Eliyahu (23:23)

No, go ahead back on this Hexath stuff for a moment. I think Hexath is trying to change up a lot of the culture at the Pentagon. And it's pissing a lot of people off. It's pissing off the fat generals, the generals who believe in the generals that believe that there should be lower standards for, I don't know, minorities or women inside the service. And that's pissing off a lot of generals who end up leaking to people at, like the Washington Times. And I'm taking a look at this article right now, and it says Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has lost the trust and respect of some top military commanders with his public grandstanding from the speech that he gave a week or so ago, widely seen as unprofessional, and the personnel moves made by the former cable TV host leading an unprecedented and dangerous exodant of talent from the Pentagon, said current senior military officers and current and former Defense Department officials. This is what I think Heath is trying to prevent. More articles like these coming out. Disgruntled generals over at the Pentagon pissed off with the needed changes that he's making to try to reinvigorate our army, to try to deal with the threats that we are seeing abroad. This is why I think he's trying to make these changes, to prevent more of the bad optics from these generals.

Tim Pool (24:28)

I think the issue for a lot of these corporate news outlets is that they're access journalists. If you guys aren't familiar totally, this means that they're newsrooms that only exist because they've been given a credential, whereas we hear often say things that piss people off, even if they're our friends, because we think truth and transparency matters and, you know, honor, integrity too. Some of these newsrooms don't have any merit, don't have any credibility. What they have is they're friends with someone in an administration.

Brett Dasovic (24:55)

They have access.

Tim Pool (24:56)

Exactly. Now that they're not friends of the Trump administration. They have nothing. They barely have access. Then they say, we're going to restrict your access. And they're like, oh, what are we going to write?

Brett Dasovic (25:07)

I mean, this is happening in entertainment, too. Like, people variety will go to these, like, red carpet premieres, and people who cover it get 10 times the views that they do because they're providing some type of interesting commentary as opposed to just going and asking inane questions to celebrities.

Tate Brown (25:23)

Well, I mean, this is happening with every institution in the United States. Like, with legacy media. All they're doing is they're just benefiting from the hard work that people like a generation or two did to establish those connections, to build the New York Times, to build the Washington Post, and they're just running off of those fumes. And this is happening with every institution in the United States because, broadly speaking, now with the Internet, now we're in the digital age. It's democratized information. We are able to reorient sort of our intake of content, regardless of what the medium is. I mean, we have a great example sitting right here. And so, yeah, like, that's all they benefit from, is the hard work from people that came before them. But now that their usefulness is sort of running thin, you know, we're tune into Tim Cast because it's just going to be better. And like, you're talking about Taylor Lorenz. It's like the thing that separates House and Habit from Taylor Lorenz is House and Habit actually has, like, an interesting perspective. They have an interesting take versus Taylor Lorenz is just, like, crappier version of what you would have on the New York Times. So it's like, why would I even bother?

Elad Eliyahu (26:19)

So, well, Nate, what do you think? Am I compromising my journalistic integrity? Am I suddenly a shill for the Department of War?

Nate Friedman (26:25)

No, no, not at all.

Elad Eliyahu (26:26)

It's okay if you think I am.

Nate Friedman (26:28)

I don't think so. I mean, I'm sorry. No, I don't think so. I think that, you know, one thing about, like, legacy media that I've noticed, you know, in the press room, I'm obviously not in the White House press room, but there's just this sense of disrespect that's kind of odd to me. Like, you should respect the office regardless of who's there. Like, there was one particular moment where Caroline Levitt kind of dunks on Kaitlan Collins when she's just like, you should just be on the ground. Why are you not on the ground? It's much easier to lie about what's happening when you're not on the ground. So, like, when I'm out there, you can't accuse me of lying. I'm. It's not AI. I'm on the street talking to these people. So that's, that's a big thing that I would point out.

Tim Pool (27:04)

There's a sense, actually there's no Nate. He's just AI.

Elad Eliyahu (27:07)

We have.

Tim Pool (27:07)

There's a guy on a green screen sitting, A green screen sitting suit sitting there.

Tate Brown (27:10)

Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (27:11)

So I have a friend actually who's talking about wanting to create like a secondary channel because he wants, he goes to a lot of these events and he's like, I want to start documenting this stuff. I think it's important. But he has like, he does other work and he doesn't want to necessarily put people off his other content because it's not political, whatever. And I said, look, like there's a million people in the commentary space now. It's very, very hard to get started here. But just the act of going on the ground and getting information, boots on the ground, asking questions is invaluable and like, more people should be doing it.

Nate Friedman (27:41)

Yeah, no, I agree.

Tim Pool (27:42)

Let's, let's jump to this story from the post. Millennial FBI Director Cash Patel says bureau is on the verge of unmasking the funding and command structure behind the antifa terror group. Patel said there are indications that support for anti American radical groups is coming from America's enemies overseas, that the bureau is following the money. We have this President Trump's roundtable, I guess they say. Patel said. Furthermore, Patel indicated the funding is also coming from US nonprofits with IRS tax exempt status. Look, the thing I can tell you is that the money doesn't lie. And the thing we're doing at the FBI is following the money. And thanks to President Trump, we now have Antifa designated, rightfully so as a domestic terror organization. And we have had multiple investigations going on. The one thing I want to stress, we are looking at a decentralized network of various organizations. We are looking at cells that use the actual brand antifa as a proper noun. But they're, I would say antifa largely describes the semi centralized and it is, it's not totally decentralized network of leftists that train, recruit, finance or otherwise all of the leftist movements we see in this country. Now, Nate, you've uncovered a lot of these people. Yeah. What's going on? Who, what's. Who are these people? Yeah.

Nate Friedman (29:01)

I want to point out one thing first, which is that the reason why this is so difficult to trace. And bravo to this administration for doing it for real. This is such a big deal, is that these groups are not even nonprofits a lot of the time. They're under an umbrella of several other nonprofits. Right. So you take someone at the top, like a Soros, who gives money to Tides, who then gives money to Progress Unity Fund, who then gives money to Answer Coalition, and it's done. I mean, if you're proud of what you're giving your money to, you're not hiding it. You don't go through all that trouble. Right? So it's. You have to follow it all the way through several different nonprofits. The big thing and.

Tim Pool (29:35)

And the individuals often will work for multiple nonprofits, not just one. You'll find, you know, some friends of mine and I were looking at various nonprofits that. That bring in funding through. I mean, we do fundraising for nonprofits, and we'd find that three board members were three executive level staff members. There were like 12 people. And they'd each be on the board of a different company and executive staff of a different company to fulfill the legal requirements. So they could have a bunch of different nonprofits and they could shuffle money between each other, making it very difficult to track.

Nate Friedman (30:06)

Correct. And, you know, so someone who I exposed, so David Chung, who. The leader of the, you know, the People's Forum protests that they organize like twice a week. Okay. So he's on the IRS tax forms for the People's Forum, getting paid $75,000 a year to protest. I confronted him. He said, no comment, no comment, no comment. This guy's taken pictures with Talib. Like, this guy has connections to Congress. Right. He's also on the board of Rise and Resist, another protest group. He's also with the Singham Justice Fund. So it's just like Tim is saying, yes, it's very true. These people are protesting for multiple orgs.

Tim Pool (30:36)

When I was at Occupy Wall street, this is a story that I've. I mentioned before and as highlighting your work, Nate, uncovering. You walk up to these people and you're like, here's a paid protester. And then you, like, show a picture and explain how they're getting paid. So I was, we were talking about this. I told this story when I was at Occupy Wall Street. Fox News is saying, oh, they're all paid protesters. Things like this. And the, The. The belief among normies that were showing up as tourists to Occupy not actively being there, was that Fox was lying. None of these people were being paid. That's Ridiculous. They were collecting donations. The truth was there were a handful of trust fund kids who were there because they were bored. But nonprofit organizations in New York had staffers there during work hours because they got the day off. Huh. So there was. There were a handful of people that I met from various charities, non profits, and also political organizations that were progressive and leftist. And I'm talking to them and they say, oh, yeah, I work for insert organization. I'd be like, oh, wow, are they paying you to beer? No, no, no, no. And I'm like, oh, are you. Are you off? Well, they gave me today off to come down. This is what happens. You work for a nonprofit whose mission is communism, socialism, or otherwise. What does that mean? It means you're handing out postcards. It means you're fundraising. It means you're organizing at universities. Occupy Wall street happens, and they say, why don't you take the day off and go hang out at Occupy? What happens? They go to Occupy. They facilitate, organize, exacerbate, recruit, finance, et cetera. And they are paid a salary, but today is their day off. That's the game they're playing a lot of times.

Tate Brown (32:11)

Yeah. Well, you go to their websites, like a lot of these, like, freedom funds and that sort of thing. And it's like George Costanz, George Costanza's Human Fund. Like, it's like chat GPT nonsense. And it's just like vague descriptions like we were seeking justice and reconciliation. And it's like, like, what is going on here? How do this. How do they employ 50, 60 people? I think it's.

Brett Dasovic (32:31)

It's important to expose the idea of somebody being paid to do that at all. Because I think the average normie who doesn't politics closely maybe only pays a little bit of attention when election season comes around or this stuff is going on right now. The idea that somebody would be paid to go out and do something like that would be completely foreign to them. When they see these people in a large group, they're imagining hundreds of people who, all independently of their own volition, came to the idea that I need to go out and stand up against tyranny or whatever. They're talking about no kings. And the idea that people would be paid money to do it is just shocking to a lot of.

Nate Friedman (33:04)

Right. I mean, the point that Tim brought up about how they take the day off. So case in point, was the Trump, Trump Tower occupation, one of them. Right. So you get in the middle of the day On a Tuesday, 30 people. So I interview this woman, and it turns out she works for a nonprofit, Jewish currency, so Super Far Left magazine. And she's just there in the middle of the workday. She on her LinkedIn, everything says that she works there. So again, she's given the day off to go and occupy the King's home. You know, you come to think that these people, I ask them, do you think Trump is a dictator? And they don't have an answer for me anymore because they know if Trump was a dictator, that would be the last building they would be allowed into. Just invaded his family's home, you know, and they're escorted out so nicely. You know what I mean? They're carried out.

Elad Eliyahu (33:47)

So.

Tim Pool (33:47)

So there's another thing, man. I actually knew a lot of these guys at Occupy who I assume are like Feds or. Fed isn't the right word. You know, this is the mistake people made because this is like an international coalition of well funded. They are individuals, they're activists, they're revolutionaries. They are at the higher level. It's, it's almost like they're intel intelligence guys, but they're not working for any. It's like a rogue, like rogue nation almost. They work with Soros, they know Soros's family. But the problem is the way they shuffle this money around. I think looking at, at Soros singularly is not necessarily a mistake, but it misses the bigger picture. A lot of this money, I believe, a lot of money I believe, excuse me, coming from usaid, shuffled around. A lot of it was coming from what we saw with Lee Zeldin uncovering these green slush funds where the Biden administration pulls it like $7 billion or some insane number into a nonprofit that existed for a month. That was insane.

Nate Friedman (34:47)

And Trump comes with a Stacey Abrams thing that was like the $2 billion slush fund. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Tim Pool (34:51)

Well, the one, whatever it was, Lee Zeldin uncovered a couple working in environmental issues for the federal government under Trump. And he said the Biden admin was dumping money into these charities that just started. Then what happens? Let me tell you guys a secret. I don't and I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but did you know that every non profit is two nonprofits, 501C3 and 501C4. Are you familiar with those terms?

Nate Friedman (35:15)

Yes.

Tim Pool (35:16)

So the way it works is a 501c3 is a tax exempt charitable organization. Their financing has to be filed publicly through what's called the 990 or 990N. You can look those up for every charity. However, most organizations will simultaneously launch what's called a 501C4, or comparably known as a PAC. It's not always PACs. These are not tax exempt donations, but they don't need to be publicly disclosed. So here's what happens. You will see someone fundraising for famous progressive charitable cause and they'll be talking to you at an event, at your door, on the street, on the phone, whatever it may be. And they'll say, guys, let's just. I'll use a modern example. Donald Trump is trying to be a dictator. We have only a few years to stop him. Here's the problem. Our organization only brought in, guess how much, $2 million last year. Can you believe it? Everybody knows Trump's a dictator and we could only get 2 million bucks. Now you're probably saying, tim, that's a lot of money, but I assure you, with our staff of 100 people working around the clock to stop Trump, you break that down. We are working at poverty wages to stop the fascist takeover. That's why we need you right now. I need 50 bucks a month. Can you commit? It's just 50 bucks a month. Cut out one Starbucks coffee a day, and you're making this possible. What do you say? Handshake? You know, they don't tell you the actual charity will bring money in and send it to the 501C4. Or when you then fill out that form, wherever you may be, you're donating to a 501C4 that doesn't need to disclose the total amount of donations they bring in. So they're technically telling you the truth. You'll, you'll donate to Brett Dasavic, the fund incorporated. It'll say on the form, your donation goes to the Brett Dasovic Fund, who brought in $700 million last year.

Brett Dasovic (37:16)

Let's go.

Tim Pool (37:17)

The Brett Dasovic fund then donates 2 million to the Brett Dasovic environmental causes nonprofit.

Brett Dasovic (37:24)

Perfect.

Tim Pool (37:24)

That way I can then go and say Brett Dasovic's environmental nonprofit only brought in 2 million last year. Will you give us money? What? They don't disclose because they don't have to because they're technically telling the truth. All that money's being shuffled to a 501C4 that won't disclose where the money goes. And then they give a tiny little bit. You'll see it. It's amazing. There will be like the executive director of a well known famous progressive nonprofit. Watch for this. They'll say, I only make $80,000 a year and I know for a lot of people in this country that's high and that's sad, isn't it? I am a CEO level, an executive at a large organization, and I don't get the millions of dollars these guys do at this job. What they don't tell you is they also have another job as the executive director of Fund Incorporated, where they get paid $7 million a year.

Brett Dasovic (38:12)

I mean, a lot of those executive or a lot of those CEOs end up making that amount too. They just get the rest in stock options.

Tim Pool (38:18)

The it's, it's all one big shell game to what I described it as back in the day is selling hopes and dreams to people.

Brett Dasovic (38:25)

So, okay, so then the question is, is like the way he's selling it here is that they're going to nail down the funding. And I think the idea there is that people have an idea of like there's a person at the end of that tunnel, There's a George Soros at the end of that tunnel. And I think what people have a hard time with just because of the way people have been raised right now because they've watched more movies and television rather than read about notes on how nonprofits work, is they're imagining that there's an end of the tunnel where there's a document that leads to a specific person who's been funding all this. And they're not going to be comfortable with the idea that it's not that simple.

Tim Pool (38:58)

Yeah, it's probably going to end up being a couple thousand individuals. Yeah, it's going to be Democrat politicians. It's as simple as USAID or these slush funds. They create a fund, they then say we're going to give. I mean, it's fascinating because some of these organizations that initially get the funds could be innocuous. It could be like the repairing TVs in low income neighborhoods, nonprofit that gets $30 million or whatever. And it's like we want to ensure that there's digital infrastructure for people in rural areas. And then you take a look at their books, they make charitable contributions to various foundations. And after three or four different degrees of separation, you find it all goes towards an organization that's on the ground protesting.

Tate Brown (39:35)

Yeah, well, that's why it's so useful that the FBI is actually doing this because, yeah, for, for a lot of people, it's, there's a lot of names to keep up with a lot of organizations. Everything's constantly unraveling new ones. It's like a game of whack. A Mole. It's going to be nice to get a few names out there that can allow you to kind of put the pieces together to fill in some gaps. Because, yeah, right now it's just very frustrating. I mean, that's the. That's. That's the intention, obviously, but it's very frustrating because from the outsider perspective, I mean, it's really tough to stay on top of everything.

Tim Pool (40:02)

I want to ask you, Nate, because aside from going on the ground and doing field reporting, you've confronted paid protesters. Have you faced threats to your safety from challenging them in person?

Nate Friedman (40:14)

In person, all I've had is a water bottle thrown at me. I'm lucky.

Tate Brown (40:19)

Oh, wow.

Nate Friedman (40:20)

My DMs aren't as nice, but.

Tim Pool (40:21)

Yeah, but what do you find when you confront these people? Like, how does it go down? Do they panic?

Nate Friedman (40:27)

Yeah, they panic. I mean, the. The no Kings one was hilarious. I walked up to the four vests. You know, they were the Amazon vests that they wear.

Elad Eliyahu (40:33)

Yeah.

Nate Friedman (40:34)

And I walk up and, you know, I'm just, like, asking, what's the plan for the protest? You know, like, oh, our job is to do this. We're marshaling here. And I'm like, are you working with the nypd? Like, what do you mean that you're, like, running traffic? Like, what are you talking about?

Brett Dasovic (40:47)

Right?

Nate Friedman (40:47)

And she's like, oh, we. We didn't have a briefing with them. I'm like, do they know about you? And she's like, yeah, they're not blind. And I'm like, okay, well, that's odd, right? So what happens is I show the credentials, and then the woman goes, I think this is one of the right wing troll guys. And then they go like, oh. And they, like, they don't know how to handle it. And they just. They just talk over each other.

Tim Pool (41:05)

Have you ever. Have you ever called out one of their names to them without them knowing who you were? Like, you're John Smith.

Nate Friedman (41:10)

Well, with David, I did. Like, I was like, hey, David, how you doing? Usually. Hey, Nate, how you.

Tim Pool (41:14)

Oh, he knew you were.

Nate Friedman (41:15)

Yeah. Yeah.

Tim Pool (41:16)

Wow. Do you think these people are starting to track you because they know you're putting out videos that are getting hundreds of. Of thousands or millions of views?

Nate Friedman (41:21)

I mean, like, when I go to a protest, almost instantly I do have people following me, asking, you know, telling the protesters not to speak with me. But it has a reverse effect because a lot of the protesters like, what's the problem with this kid?

Elad Eliyahu (41:33)

Yeah.

Nate Friedman (41:33)

You know, like, what are you. Like, I'm just, you know. So then they speak with me and they look so bad.

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Nate Friedman (42:09)

Because it's like this person has agreed to do an interview with me. You know, just someone who is like he's brainwashed but he's not paid. He's just there to protest. He's like, look, I want to talk, I want to speak into a microphone. I'm at a protest. And they're like, no, don't speak to him.

Tate Brown (42:19)

So yeah, yeah, yeah. Well it's like, like I've been on the ground with a lot like in New York and a lot of people will spot him and of course they think he's, you know, every name in the book. But the way that they retaliate is just like the caddiest, like low test reactions. There's no, no, don't talk to him, don't talk to like they're. But that's like in a weird, like there's a level of cordialness and a level of familiarity and it's like just so like soy.

Tim Pool (42:44)

Remember when you got a bar?

Elad Eliyahu (42:46)

Yeah, I did well for being a fascist Zionist. I got kicked out of a bar.

Tate Brown (42:50)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (42:50)

A Jewish Nazi.

Elad Eliyahu (42:51)

A couple of people tried to attack me through like my years on the street there. Like a couple of fistfights. Nothing too crazy though. I think I'm on the luckier side of all of that. It's not too crazy out in New York City though. It's definitely. It hasn't reached like the levels of Portland or anything like that.

Tim Pool (43:06)

Yeah, definitely not.

Nate Friedman (43:06)

No. I think the NYPD does a very good job, honestly. Yeah.

Elad Eliyahu (43:11)

I also think it is worth mentioning while there are some paid protesters, I don't believe most are paid.

Nate Friedman (43:16)

Correct.

Elad Eliyahu (43:17)

Like most people are there on their.

Tim Pool (43:18)

Own 5% and they're excited to be there.

Elad Eliyahu (43:20)

A lot of the anti Israel protesters out there, all these Arabs and Muslims out there, I don't think they're getting paid to be there. I think they think they're fighting for their motherland. Then there are these other Group of people who are being paid though. And these are these pieces of shit, legal observers who are, who say they're only there to make sure police are doing their job, but they're really there to just assist the far left protesters in whatever protest they're trying to proceed in. Then this other group of people who might be the worst out of any of these are the sympathetic photographers, the protesters in everything but name photographers, looking to like aggrandize these people and like take sexy pictures of them for their Instagram pages. And then they could all post their pictures and try to make it look like they're doing something relevant on the street. So they could try to be put in some newspaper article and like front page of the New York Times, and it's a collection of them and they'll all work together and then they'll be like, fed stories from the protesters. So they'll work hand in fist with them. They're making money. The legal observers are making money. But I just kind of wanted to break down what's going on on the streets over there. The legal observers I think I have the biggest beef with because they are so nakedly and openly partisan. They won't go to any right wing rallies and try to protect right wingers and just say, oh, we're just observing what's going on and trying to protect their first amendment rights. It's only at far left events where they feel like it is necessary for them to show up and micromanage the police's every move.

Tate Brown (44:33)

Yeah. And the way they behave is so catty.

Elad Eliyahu (44:35)

They're just bitching and moaning. They're just bitching and moaning.

Tim Pool (44:38)

This is what, what, you know, I think should have people concerned. Occupy Wall street, for instance, mo, who's. Who's going to be in a camp at Occupy Wall Street? Do you think it's going to be any legitimate journalist who's like, I want to get to the bottom of what's going on. Nate, why aren't you camping with these far leftists and following around? And it's because it's only a certain kind of person that would literally do that. When I went to Occupy, it was largely just an interesting thing for me to see. I also have no problem with sleeping in the streets. So when Occupy started, I was like, sure, whatever. What I end up finding is that were I not there, the narrative, the history of that space will always have been a lie because the leftists control the narrative. There were a handful of rapes in the park. Well, of course they were. What do you think happens when you have a bunch of people just sleeping in the street? They're in a park by themselves. In dense camps where there's clusters of people banging drums all night, no one can hear anything. Loud traffic, several rapes happened. You know what the response was from the Occupy facilitators? Don't tell anyone because it'll make us look bad. Yep. There was a division between the east and the west sides of Zuccotti park during Occupy. The east side of the park was controlled by trust fund kids who were trying to manipulate and control things. But the people who actually comprised the occupying body, they formed what's called the General Union on the west side of the camp. No joke. The east side of the camp was. No, there weren't really that many tents. It wasn't as dense. And that's where they had the General assembly trust fund kids, facilitators and paid protesters were organizing. They had what's called the progressive stack, meaning if you were white man, you didn't get to speak. No joke. The speech order for everybody who raised their hand was based on how oppressed you were, not a joke. So if you were a paraplegic lesbian of color with a developmental disability, you would speak first. If you were a white man, they would look at you and go, anyone besides a white man want to speak? Okay, well, then, moving on the other side of the park tried holding their own rally because they were concerned that they were the actual Occupy being shut out, and facilitators came and threatened violence against them. That's how insane Occupy Wall street was. That what was actually going on in that park was disarray, disorganization, and chaos. I guarantee you, if you find one of these occupiers who wrote a book about it, it's gonna be a romanticized fantasy utopia of what happened. They use narratives like that to try and convince people communism will work. Then you actually go and experience what it was. Let me tell you, there was a. I walked into the park one day, and they had the food section. They were giving out food to people who were hungry. Tourists who are walking through the park to check out Occupy were taking some of this food. Guess where the food came from?

Elad Eliyahu (47:27)

Dumpster.

Tim Pool (47:28)

Dumpster. That is correct. Leftists went dumpster diving, grabbed a bunch of expired, trashed food, brought it in crates to Occupy, started handing out to people. And I walked up and I saw one of the. One of the labels on it, and then I was like, where did you guys get all this food? And they were like, dumpster diving. And I said, what do you think the press is gonna say when they find out you're handing dumpster food to tourists? And they, like, got shocked and then shoveled it all into the garbage and tried getting rid of it.

Tate Brown (47:53)

They're homeless maxing. It's the new. It's the new method, I hear. But I remember what the left does.

Elad Eliyahu (47:58)

During the George Floyd riots, there was this one van that would show up to all of the events to, like, hand out snacks and goodies and make sure everybody at the Protestant Light was, like, hydrated. Everything. Just strange things that people decide to commit. And I don't think, like, even those people were paying.

Tim Pool (48:12)

Who makes the shields?

Elad Eliyahu (48:13)

Who makes the shields?

Tim Pool (48:14)

Yep.

Nate Friedman (48:15)

I mean, you brought up the legal thing. Something that I.

Elad Eliyahu (48:17)

Legal observers. Yeah.

Nate Friedman (48:18)

But also, like, what's something I really want people to know about is that how often there are arrests at these protests. Arrests in New York City are expensive. Right. Like, a lot of time. These police are on overtime. And so who pays to bail these people out? Okay, look into. Or you can watch one of my videos on it. But you can. If you go to scroll down to the bottom of Palestine Legal, you will see at the bottom, Tide Center. So George Soros gives money to the Tide center, and this organization is just made to bail protesters out. Anti west protesters is made for that. So it's expensive to have thousands of arrests at these protests. Taxpayer money, Nate.

Elad Eliyahu (48:54)

I will say, nowadays, it's cashless bail. So a lot of these guys get out without anything. If anything, it's just costing the city the overtime hours that the NYPD has to constantly put in for all these guys.

Tate Brown (49:03)

Yeah. And then they gotta pay for the Met tickets once they release them. It's just crazy. Yeah.

Tim Pool (49:07)

I'm concerned with this investigation from the FBI, they're not actually gonna go for the stem for the root. Because you have any idea, you do, what it would look like if Cash actually said, we are going to start arresting and shutting down these funding sources. We're talking about what, hundreds of nonprofits with millions of dollars in funding. We're talking about an entire sector of our economy. Like, probably a decent percentage that is literally just professional revolutionaries, agitators, and their. And their legal apparatus.

Brett Dasovic (49:38)

You think violence is bad now?

Nate Friedman (49:39)

I believe.

Brett Dasovic (49:40)

Funding.

Tim Pool (49:41)

You think they're going to do it?

Nate Friedman (49:41)

Yeah, I do. I think.

Tim Pool (49:43)

What do you think?

Nate Friedman (49:43)

Because. Because I trust. I trust the president. Because when I. When he. When he posted my work, like, I couldn't. I could not believe it. Like, that was like, that was how old are you? I will just say 28.

Tim Pool (49:53)

Amazing.

Nate Friedman (49:54)

That was. That was. I'll just say, is probably the best day of my life.

Tim Pool (49:56)

Yeah.

Nate Friedman (49:57)

Because it was like a month or two.

Tim Pool (49:58)

That was.

Nate Friedman (49:59)

Yeah, it's like in June. And, you know, he. He like captions it with my name and I was like the President just like. And he means business. You know, you can be on the right or your left. You know, he tends to keep promises. And he's been on Fox. He's been even when I was at Charlie Kirk's memorial service, Trump mentioned paid protesting. What do you think are on purpose with him? I think he's gonna do it.

Tim Pool (50:21)

Based on what you know about this paid protesting stuff, what do you think it looks like when the DOJ finally announces the first indictments or the moves against these, these, these networks?

Nate Friedman (50:31)

Well, you can look at oversight committee, like, Anna Paulina Luna is doing a great job with this. She's already know. She knows about Singham. They know they need to bring this guy who's a Marxist billionaire living in China, whose wife is Jody Evans, who's the code pink one, who's literally harassing congressmen whenever they're, you know, at the cafeteria. They know the names already, which is a huge start. And they've been public about knowing the names. So I think it looks like wrapping up these giant umbrellas, right? Because there's not that many. Like, you look at Westpac and Progress Unity Fund, those two are huge. And then there's like 20 groups under them. But look at those two. And I think when you get like a news about the doj, it's going to be about Westpac and Progress Unity Fund.

Tim Pool (51:07)

We have this image that Rep. Anna Paulina Luna posted, and you can see all of these organizations, no Kings Partners. I believe this is yearly revenue. Is it? Is it not? Because I can't imagine that they're pulling millions of them per month. I imagine this is the totals for the end of the year, Right? You've got ACLU with 42 million. That seems like a yearly number. Yeah, the ACLU. You want, you want to hear a funny story about the aclu?

Nate Friedman (51:32)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (51:33)

Oh, man, I think I could. I could get in trouble for talking about the story. I'll keep it really light. I worked for. Oh, man, I could probably get in trouble. I'm gonna say it anyway, because here we are. I already opened the door. I worked for a corporation that did fundraising for the aclu. They, we, we believed there was a labor. Labor law violation. So when we found out that the company that was working with the aclu. Okay. So we work for company A who contracts with the aclu. When we found out that we were getting ripped off, so we believed, we reached out to the ACLU asking if they could do something about it. And they said, no, it's a conflict of interest and we don't want to get involved. And we were like, this is supposed to be what you do. But they were like, yeah, but no, because we make money from these people. So we just said, okay. And that was. That was the end of the ACLU for me, for the most part.

Nate Friedman (52:26)

Yep.

Tate Brown (52:27)

Is there something to be said about, like, oftentimes I think, like, I think back to the LA riots earlier this year, where there is a propensity on the right to disbelieve that this can just occur organically and we kind of want someone up, up the ladder that we can chuck in jail. Which I mean, I'm not like, this is obviously really at the core of a lot of these things. But like, when I look at the LA riots, to me, there is enough tension in like, yeah, that community with ice that these sort of riots would occur anyway regardless of.

Elad Eliyahu (52:56)

There are enough Mexicans in LA pissed about ICE deporting their family members.

Tate Brown (53:00)

Right. There's enough abuelas.

Elad Eliyahu (53:01)

And abuela, I don't think anybody needs to. Soros doesn't need to pay out the Mexican to be mad about his abuela getting deported.

Tate Brown (53:06)

Yeah. So I think, like, sometimes I think people on the right just really can't believe that this is happening, that this is the state of the country.

Tim Pool (53:13)

What's Arabella?

Elad Eliyahu (53:15)

Are you familiar? Arabs?

Tim Pool (53:17)

Yeah, Arabella. So there's Arabella, Buffett, Ford, Rockefeller, Soros and the Tie and Ties Foundation.

Nate Friedman (53:23)

Yeah. So like my. Each of these are enough to spend a lifetime looking into. Right? Soros and Tides. It's funny how they split those up. This is virtually the same thing. Soros is the principal donor of ties.

Tim Pool (53:32)

Really?

Nate Friedman (53:33)

Yeah. Soros donates, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars through tithes. So it's like saying putting them in different columns is it's needed because there's some people, different people who donate the tithes, but it's mostly Soros Rockefeller, 40. All these names, it's like crazy. I do this every single day of my life and I haven't gotten to those names, you know?

Elad Eliyahu (53:50)

Yep. I'm looking up Arabella Advisors. Their LLC advises left leaning donors. It was created by former Clinton administration appointee Eric Kessler. They raise a ton of money and they Dole it out to different Democrat interest groups.

Tim Pool (54:06)

Now this is important. These are not. This funding is not for no kings. These are just people who worked with no king. So you can see they've got the Human Rights Campaign. Where's the. Where's the old Human Rights. Here you go. Human Rights Campaign Foundation. And you can see 2 million. Now I'm curious. Why does it say Human Rights Campaign Foundation? You're all familiar with the Human Rights Campaign, right?

Elad Eliyahu (54:31)

Yes.

Tim Pool (54:32)

Okay, so it lists it as the Human Rights Campaign Foundation. I'm curious if there's a distinction. Is there a distinction between Human Rights Campaign. I bet there is. Yes. They are legally distinct. Surprise, surprise. The Human Rights Campaign foundation is a 501C3 and the Human Rights Campaign is a 501C4. Hey, isn't that funny how I just described how nonprofits have this. This practice of splitting themselves up. To be fair, every single nonprofit does it. Even Project Veritas at Project Veritas Action. But I don't trust them. I trust James.

Elad Eliyahu (55:10)

I do think the left wing does a very good job of organizing their donations and their funds and raising funds from donors across the board for what issues they care about. So if you read through these different organizations there, it's catch all leftist issues, but it's things like gun control, LGBTQ issues, race issues, abortion issues.

Brett Dasovic (55:31)

Climate change.

Elad Eliyahu (55:31)

Climate change.

Tim Pool (55:32)

It's all gay race communism.

Elad Eliyahu (55:34)

Exactly. But they do an effective job of raising money individually for all of these different organizations. What I wish would happen on the right is that we had as good of interest groups fundraising money like this to effectively battle them. So there needs to be people who care about. I mean, there's every issue across the board but gun rights, caring about immigration and closing our borders. We need to raise funds to have PACs to donate to candidates who support those issues. And they're very, very organized in how they do this stuff. I mean, I guess we do. Republicans raise a ton of money for anti abortion stuff.

Tate Brown (56:04)

I mean, I would like to be able to Venmo ice. That would be nice.

Elad Eliyahu (56:07)

Just slide a little.

Tim Pool (56:08)

Why do you think.

Brett Dasovic (56:09)

Oh, go.

Tim Pool (56:09)

No, no.

Brett Dasovic (56:10)

Why do you think it is that the. The right has such a hard time with that? So I've always pointed out, like in my lifetime, at any place that I've lived, I've only ever had door knockers come to my door that are campaigning for left wing organizations or campaigns. I've never had anybody on the.

Elad Eliyahu (56:24)

No.

Tim Pool (56:25)

What about missionaries? That's not a joke.

Tate Brown (56:28)

No, yeah, that's true.

Elad Eliyahu (56:29)

Never I think so.

Tim Pool (56:30)

So let, let me just clarify this. The legal function of a 501C3 is supposed to be a secular version of church. Churches were tax exempt, they had certain rules. And 501c3 was basically like, okay, okay, if you're because of freedom of religion, we will create advocacy groups for other ideological causes that function similarly. That's why they always say churches can't, you know, engage in politics from the pulpit or whatever. So there needs to be more. I guess the issue is this, this is the point I'm making. Christians of all different backgrounds, even, you know, I know there's some controversy or I guess now over Mormons and other Christian groups. They knock. I've had them come to my door quite a bit. Yeah. And they talk about their moral worldview. But it's overtly a religion. We recognize this when the left comes, it's not different. They're espousing values of their non theistic religion. The issue is that what you're talking about, Brett, I think is, or I should say a lot. Where is the moderate pro America Meritocratic.

Elad Eliyahu (57:34)

Based PACs, an organization that's trying to advance that? I mean I guess we're turning point. USA was doing the best job of that. But the left really effectively took Charlie Kirk off the board. Brett, to answer your question though, why I think that's more prevalent on the left and not the right is because at the core of I feel like right wingers ideology is like an individualism and it's like the idea of coming together and trying to work with others to try to like accomplish something big.

Tim Pool (57:58)

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Elad Eliyahu (58:31)

It sounds like communism and I think right wingers think that's kind of gay as opposed to people on the left where it's like, oh, you know, let's find somebody to like raise money for to try to achieve a goal together and let's all work together. And I feel like that's a very left wing type idea. So naturally it flows that they'd want to organize more than a right winger would. Yeah. A right winger would say, hey, I think I could do this on my own and fight this on my own. Like, I want to be my own boss. Like, I don't want to have to be somebody else's employee. On the left, they're like, let's all hold hands and, you know, we're all equal. And let's hear, I'll give you a ton of my money, try to go accomplish something.

Brett Dasovic (59:05)

Or if they, like, they would try to start building some type of coalition, they start arguing about it, and then wouldn't get around to the actual building.

Tate Brown (59:11)

Well, beyond that, too. It's like the left, for 30, 40 years now, well, 50, 60 years now, has provided, like, a vision for how they want the country to be reoriented, how it wants to be structured. And so that gave leftists and just like people in left broadly, something to buy into, something to organize around where the right. It really wasn't until Trump that a vision was provided for America. For 60 years. The Republican Party was like, let's just slow him down.

Nate Friedman (59:35)

There's just, like, one quick thing about this that about, like, leftist NGOs, a lot of them started for, like, with good intentions. Okay, so, like, one of them, one company I exposed, La Collaborativa, you know, they started to help immigrants. Here's the problem on the left, we change the definition of immigrant, and we just refer to illegal immigrants as immigrants. And it's awful because people like my father who came to the country legally, waited, you know, fled communism, contributed, is now being described as the same way as someone who hopped the border and is trafficking drugs.

Tim Pool (60:08)

I can tell you the big problem with nonprofits. Nonprofits are supposed to go out of business. They. They are not businesses. They identify a problem and then request your assistance to stop said problem. So let's say the problem is plastic pollution, right? You are a nonprofit, and you got started because you're like, plastic is a problem.

Brett Dasovic (60:30)

Your slogan is death to plastic.

Tim Pool (60:31)

And your slogan is death to plastic. And so you are soliciting donations to end plastic pollution. The goal being, at a certain point, there should no longer be plastic pollution. Let's say, hypothetically, in this world, one day, a new synthetic material is developed which eliminates the needs for plastics. As these things happen. Like, plastics came about replacing glass and metal containers. So let's say one day they're like, revolution. Plastic is now being phased out. This nonprofit has 1,000 employees, 37 offices across the country. They have to bring in $8 million a year just to sustain it. Do you think they're gonna go, guess I lost my job. Now, do you think the executive director who's getting paid a million bucks a year is gonna be like, I'm gonna fire a thousand employees? No. Guess what they're gonna do? They're gonna find something else to complain about. They're gonna find some other reason. Oh, I got an idea. Let's talk about Greenpeace. You guys know Greenpeace? No, really? Greenpeace is like the leftist nonprofit. They got started because they. There was a small handful of people got a boat and opposed nuclear testing, nuclear bombs being detonated in the ocean. And so they would bring their boats into the fray and sit there so the tests could not be done, and they got a bunch of donations for it. Now, you name an environmental cause, they're against it. Just. Just pick one whale. You've got the issue of whaling. I guess they're against nuclear energy, even though nuclear energy is emission free. And the cleanest energy we have.

Nate Friedman (62:07)

Even something like homelessness is literally not solved because the incentives are all off. They're not incentivized to fix the problem. So that's just. Yeah.

Tim Pool (62:14)

Yep. Why. Why solve any of these problems? It's. It's funny because it's the same thing as Big Pharma. If they cure your disease, they're out of business.

Brett Dasovic (62:21)

I think also, like, now that I think about it more, like, more than anything, like I said, all the door knockers that have ever come to my home have always. They're always young adults. They're very idealistic in that same sense of idealism doesn't necessarily exist on the right. It's a form of pragmatism towards the future that they want, an idealistic future. But they have too pragmatic of a worldview to really buy into that. So it's easier to sell people on the idea of hope than it is to actually sell them a realistic plan.

Elad Eliyahu (62:50)

It's easier on free shit than sell people on, like, individual responsibility.

Tim Pool (62:55)

Gentlemen, many of you may have wondered why our number one is not here. Philipante. And why Tate was filling in. I am currently peeling some foil off of a bottle of bubbly which says pop and cheer when baby Labonte is here. As Philibonte has just super chatted. I'm at the hospital. Sarah's water just broke, and we're about to welcome our first son to the world. By the time you read this, he will likely already be here. Thanks for all the prayers and well wishes. Congratulations, Phil and Sarah. I am going to pop open this delicious bubbly if I can.

Elad Eliyahu (63:35)

There we go. Don't spill on me.

Tim Pool (63:37)

And we don't have any glasses, do we?

Elad Eliyahu (63:39)

No, we're taking swigs out the bottle.

Tate Brown (63:41)

Let's go chug this real quick. We're waterfalling. Let's go.

Tim Pool (63:46)

Waterfall.

Elad Eliyahu (63:49)

Mazel tov on your baby. Hopefully the first of many repopulating the country. Let's go. Congratulations to you. Take as much time as you need off, buddy.

Tim Pool (63:57)

Are you not waterfalling it?

Tate Brown (63:59)

Did you do nasty lips there? Yeah, Covid 25 or something.

Elad Eliyahu (64:06)

If you wouldn't like some. No pressure.

Nate Friedman (64:08)

Phil, I don't know you, but you seem like a great guy.

Elad Eliyahu (64:10)

You know, He's a rock star.

Tim Pool (64:11)

He's platinum.

Tate Brown (64:13)

Platinum.

Elad Eliyahu (64:14)

I should.

Tim Pool (64:15)

All that remains. No one's waterfall. You guys are all just basically kissing each other.

Elad Eliyahu (64:19)

Men.

Brett Dasovic (64:20)

We're practicing for hex alcohol. I cannot drink it. But, Phil, Sarah, congratulations.

Tim Pool (64:26)

Let's go have some chocolate numa. Yeah.

Tate Brown (64:28)

What do we got?

Tim Pool (64:29)

I got my. There we go. Congratulations, Phil. Take. Take as much time as you need. We'll see you when you're back.

Tate Brown (64:37)

Salute.

Elad Eliyahu (64:37)

You're going to stop.

Tate Brown (64:38)

Search bill is. Oh, yeah, wait. Search. Bottoms up. Just finish polish it off, man. This is for Phil.

Elad Eliyahu (64:45)

Let's go.

Tate Brown (64:45)

Hey, I want you to drink more.

Elad Eliyahu (64:47)

I take next. You next?

Tate Brown (64:49)

Yes. Phil, I love you. You're the best. And I've been. You've changed my entire perspective on the left lane. Like before I came here, I was kind of ambivalent.

Brett Dasovic (64:57)

It's not for crime anymore. He's going to have to drive slow now.

Tate Brown (64:59)

Welcome to the world, new patriot. We have a lot of work to do. We got to save America. So as soon as you can, like, talk and walk, let's get to work.

Brett Dasovic (65:06)

Have you door knocking for Republican causes.

Tate Brown (65:08)

That's right.

Elad Eliyahu (65:09)

I love that he did the meme. The. My wife's pregnant, about to give birth. Watching. Watching Tim cast irl.

Tim Pool (65:17)

It's the main. The most important thing you can do. Let's jump to this next story from the New York Post. This is wild. CBS News boss Barry Weissen with bodyguards amid heightened security concerns. We actually have another story I want to talk to you about as well after this. But we're starting here. Laura Loomer. Someone also got arrested for threatening to murder her. And she's got a police detail. But we'll start with Barry Weiss, newly installed CBS News editor chief. Barry Weiss had a phalanx of six bodyguards. Okay. I wish it were true. She had a phalanx. Could you imagine how cool that would be. Like Spartan looking dudes with big shields, shoulder to shoulder marching. That's not what happened in New York. She had guards described as beefy and chiseled as she attended a conference the New York Historical Society put on by private equity giant Redbird Capital. The source of the detail was hired because there are enhanced security concerns. It's highly unusual for a news executive to have six bodyguards. A former network exec told the Post. Now I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you my gosh darn honest opinion of Barry Weiss. I believe she's a fair bit of vanilla pudding. And I mean that only a little derisively, honestly. Look, I don't, I, I have no beef with Barry. I think she's. I think she's great. I think she does good work. I think she's a little vanilla. I don't think she pushes back hard enough, but she pushes it back a little bit. It. And so I try to. I should actually say I'm being a little bit too mean. I think Barry pushes back a decent amount on the establishment. And so I'm willing to accept that. And if this is displacing the corporate media establishment to any degree, we will accept it. I would much prefer Barry Weiss to represent the America, the American liberal faction than currently whatever woke garbage. Is that being said, take a look at the security that she has. I'm going to pull up this graph about viewpoint diversity. Viewpoint diversity, left and right.

Brett Dasovic (67:02)

You're like one of those guys with the fake arms. So they got the hand on inside on the concealed weapon.

Tim Pool (67:08)

Here's this image from Reddit that. Let's see if I can make it bigger. You may have seen it. I've talked about it quite a bit and this is where we get to the point about why Barry Weiss needs security. This whole red bubble right here, that's actually the left and the right. That is America. The left. Right here is the far left and the right over here are the moderate conservatives and they're. The fringe element is probably up and down because it doesn't. The, the left and the right on this quadrant doesn't literally mean left and right. Or actually, I'm sorry, left actually does. But you can see. I'm assuming they're going authoritarian, libertarian. If you were to get rid of. I wonder if I can. It's not gonna let me zoom in. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think so. Red stupid. If you were to get rid of the blue faction here, just hack it off completely this red network represents an America where Barry Weiss is on the left of it, which means to this weird death cult on the left, this blue cluster, she's far right. So even though a lot of people are going to claim that she's a liberal, that she's barely better than woke, they want her dead. And that is insane of what this country has come to. And that's why I'm like, good, I'm glad Barry's succeeding because we want her to represent liberal. I mean, she's spoken out against the weird woke stuff. We still think she's liberal and we disagree with some of the things she says. But it's America. It's tolerable.

Tate Brown (68:30)

What does that say about the state of the country that Bari Weiss, who, yeah, is fairly centrist, I would say, needs an intense security detail like this? I mean, that just shows you how crazy the temperature has gotten insane.

Tim Pool (68:42)

The left is right. You know what I will add to the first thing I'll say is, in no reality is, again, people might take this as an insult or whatever. I don't care if you do. In no reality is the Free Press worth $150 million. However, I will consider the possibility, nay, the likelihood, that CBS is so out of its mind with ineptitude, having no idea what to do. They saw that she had a relatively small but successful media outlet and said, we want it. She said, no. They said, we'll give you 50 million. She said, no. They said, we'll give you seven. She goes, I'm not selling. Then they said, what if we give you 100? And she goes, no, I'm not going to sell 150. And she went, okay, fine. I guess I think that's probably what happened because the numbers don't add up now. A lot of people think it's a conspiracy. I think the reality is just legacy media is dying. As we've discussed already with the Pentagon press corps. They don't know what to do. So why is free press worth 150? It's not, but they're desperate.

Brett Dasovic (69:39)

Well, there's. There's also a massive amount of consolidation going on at these companies. They said CBS is Paramount. Paramount just merged with Skydance, and Paramount just put in an offer to buy Warner Brothers and was turned down because David Zaslav saw the stock spike after he turned them down, and now Comcast wants to buy. So all of these companies are consolidating down further. And what is David Zaslav doing is like, let's try and relaunch CNN as A streaming service that, again, like, they're. They're relaunching. Yeah. Cnn.

Tim Pool (70:07)

I got. I got to be honest, if they hire me to do it, I could fix. I could save cnn.

Tate Brown (70:11)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (70:12)

Yeah. Well, the first thing I do is I'd fire everyone.

Tate Brown (70:14)

Right.

Elad Eliyahu (70:14)

You should apply there. See if they take the editor in.

Tate Brown (70:17)

Chief, LinkedIn, CNN CEO.

Tim Pool (70:22)

It's funny because I like Fox News, but I even feel like they're not good.

Brett Dasovic (70:26)

Well, even when you said Mockingbird Media before, it's like, why do you think CNN and FOX rub shoulders at the press briefings before? Because they're all kind of part of that same.

Tim Pool (70:35)

I gotta be fair to Fox News, though. I mean, Jesse Watters really hits the establishment. Pretty aggressive.

Elad Eliyahu (70:40)

He's no Tucker, though.

Tim Pool (70:41)

Yeah, it's true. It's true.

Brett Dasovic (70:43)

That's the point. Right? You have the one voice who does that, and you have the other nine voices that seem to maybe not parrot the line.

Tim Pool (70:49)

But I would, I would say there's Fox News is reporting is fairly vanilla pudding. Brett Baier, I think, is. Is. Is great. You watch his stuff and you're like, oh, you know, I mean, like, he said a thing that happened. You watch Jesse Waters on the five, and he. And did you see Gutfeld just going after Tarlov after Charlie got assassinated? Gutfeld was not having it. So you've got. You've got Gutfeld and Jesse Waters at Fox. And I think they actually do a very good job of calling out the lies and the manipulations.

Elad Eliyahu (71:19)

You know, you keep saying vanilla pudding like it's a bad thing. Frankly.

Tate Brown (71:22)

I like.

Elad Eliyahu (71:22)

I like my vanilla pudding.

Tim Pool (71:25)

Why did you take it that way a lot? Because the way vanilla is delicious. Yeah. I'm saying that there's a distinction between when you walk into a grocery store and they've got 800 brands of vanilla. Of course we like it. Everybody likes vanilla pudding. But sometimes you've got a brand of pudding which is butterscotch, caramel fudge swirl with peanut butter on top, and maybe you don't want it. Vanilla pudding just means it's not crazy because it's like Jesse Waters is not vanilla pudding. You know what I mean? Like, Brett Bear does a good job. That's what I'm saying. Vanilla pudding is delicious. Maybe you want to add wafer cookies.

Elad Eliyahu (71:56)

I'll just say I like vanilla pudding. Read into what you will. Back to the Barry Wise story, though. Her having security six security guards is the norm given our current political climate. I think there was just a DOJ indictment against somebody threatening the life of Hakeem Jeffries. There is just a DOJ indictment.

Tim Pool (72:12)

That's somebody threatening, wasn't it?

Elad Eliyahu (72:15)

Yeah, somebody. He was pardoned for his involvement in January.

Tim Pool (72:18)

Right, right, right.

Elad Eliyahu (72:19)

Then there was also a DOJ indictment for somebody threatening to kill Laura Loomer and a couple of other right wing Zionist people. Of course, we are coming off the heels of the murder of Charlie Kirk outside of the Israeli embassy in D.C. we saw the murder of the two Israeli embassy workers. We also saw Josh Shapiro's home be firebombed. Yep. Luigi Mangioni, of course, this is just off the top of my head. So if this will be the norm moving forward, your legislators, the lawmakers, the political commentators are now living in fear because the norm is to threaten to murder and kill them.

Brett Dasovic (72:52)

Look, ok, so a couple of weeks ago, somebody posted a picture of like Barack Obama and Mitt Romney at one of the debates and said, like, this was the last time politics felt like it was, had some decorum to it. And all the comments were like, they called him a Nazi too. Right. But the difference was back then it was a more, you know, extreme part of the, of the left faction, whereas now you just have the mainstream politicians saying the same thing. So the whole of the party has shifted.

Elad Eliyahu (73:19)

If someone were to get killed in the political space, nobody would be surprised. Everybody's on the table if they were able to get shots on the president, it's fair game for everybody. And I think, unfortunately, the more violence that we're seeing, it will beget more violence. And we're still in the throes of it. More is still to come. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

Tim Pool (73:38)

This is my point about vanilla pudding, okay? It means it's not the fringe. It means it's the normal, the mainstream. When Barry Weiss, who is vanilla pudding, that's not an insult, just means that she's not like dressed up like a clown, running around doing weird things. She's running like she launched a newsroom. The newsroom, when you read the articles, are extremely straightforward. She built up a subscriber base. I don't see mathematically how it's worth 150 million, but I can see culturally why CBS would be like, we're desperate. Six bodyguards. They said there's a heightened security situation. And it's like when Barry Weiss has to have security to this degree, something like it is, it is, it is bad out there.

Brett Dasovic (74:20)

Is the value in it perhaps that. So maybe it's not worth 150 million, but you know, with the election of Donald Trump, a lot of these media organizations definitely tried to pull themselves back towards closer to the middle, that they saw the value in it, in being a more moderate, middle of the road outlet, that she could bring some type of moderation back to the name recognition.

Tim Pool (74:40)

This is not the way politics flows.

Brett Dasovic (74:43)

I'm talking from the media.

Tim Pool (74:44)

Yeah, it doesn't work. No, this is political. CBS is considered untrustworthy. Barry Weiss joining CBS doesn't change their trustworthiness. What it shows says to me is that CBS has literally no idea what to do. So they were desperate and they bought free Press.

Brett Dasovic (74:59)

Maybe they're thinking ahead though. They're like, look, her journalism in the past looks like it's down there, it's middle down the road and she can foster an environment for a newsroom that will be middle down the road and rebuild trust down the line.

Tim Pool (75:10)

Line.

Brett Dasovic (75:10)

I'm not saying that that's what's going to happen. I'm saying is that something that case scenario?

Tate Brown (75:14)

It's like, it's like it may.

Tim Pool (75:16)

Sorry, but maybe in the sense that they said, barry, would you like to run our news division because our woke institution has failed. And she said, no, because I have mine. And then she was only willing to sell unless it went for a ridiculous number.

Tate Brown (75:27)

Well, I think it's just like, it's like when a, like an NBA team has just had like disastrous luck and then they just go into free agency and just pay like a wash player, like a supermax contract. That's what's going on here. There's like, dude, okay, just, just pay, just pay him. Like, I don't know, maybe this will spark and then you get saddled with this terrible contract. That's kind of what's going on is there's just a lot of dumb money right now. They're collapsing, they're panicking and they just chuck some money at this aging superstar and maybe, you know, we'll win a championship or something and never works out.

Nate Friedman (75:54)

But I think, like, you made it.

Elad Eliyahu (75:56)

Earlier, get a little closer.

Nate Friedman (75:57)

Sorry. I think you made an earlier point about how like, I think there's less money now in just bashing Trump 24 7. I think that's evident with, with Joy Reid being fired from MSNBC and several other anchors on msnbc. And I think, honestly, I think Bari Weiss is probably the best thing for Democrats maybe ever in the last five years because I think there are so many people on the left who feel politically homeless. There are so many people on the left and I talk to Them on the streets, they hate Trump, but they also don't want to transition minors and have no borders.

Tim Pool (76:28)

Yeah, but they hate Trump for no real reason is the problem.

Nate Friedman (76:31)

I don't disagree with that. That. But they hate him. Like, that's how they feel. So my point being is that Barry Weiss.

Elad Eliyahu (76:38)

Barry.

Nate Friedman (76:39)

Barry Weiss restores the 2004 Democrat Party.

Brett Dasovic (76:43)

You're trying to speak to the Michael Rappaport of the world who, like, hate Trump, but they're like, but the rest of this stuff is insane.

Tim Pool (76:49)

Oh, bro. Like Michael brother. I've dealt with him a little bit. I think he's hilarious. I just think we were talking with Graham Linehan about how he was just. He was attacking even Dankula, and now he's kind of come to his senses, realizing they were lying to him. I think Michael will come around, too, and he can hate Trump forever. He can make fun of Trump. We've always been okay with him.

Brett Dasovic (77:12)

He's often done that, too, because of the. What he saw. The anti Semitism coming from the left, bro.

Tim Pool (77:17)

The left moving forward. You make a great point. They are going to just be. Their only unifying principle is going to be that they don't like Jews. And I'm not being cute about Israel. No, I mean, quite literally, they don't have any policies on the left. But we had this tweet from Crystal Ball. This is hilarious. For me personally, I'll take the candidate with a regrettable tattoo over one who has steadfastly supported a genocide, Graham Platner's Nazi Totenkopf tattoo, The death's head was used by the Nazi SS division responsible for running concentration camps.

Brett Dasovic (77:51)

Holy.

Nate Friedman (77:51)

What? This person has influence.

Tim Pool (77:53)

Oh, bro. She's got a massive podcast.

Elad Eliyahu (77:56)

She would never extend this benefit of the doubt to any Republican candidate. These people lack any principle. There's no consistency. And I think that's the issue with people like this.

Tate Brown (78:04)

Yeah.

Elad Eliyahu (78:04)

Like, when they're nakedly partisan.

Tate Brown (78:06)

I mean, Hecseth had his days Volt tattoo, and they're like, he's gonna use the Pentagon to, like, start a new crusade. It's like, first of all, he base. But second of all. Second of all, like, what are we doing here? You know? Like, this is absolutely naked.

Tim Pool (78:18)

No, the response is, oh, come on. We wish.

Tate Brown (78:20)

Yeah, we're gonna do three or four.

Brett Dasovic (78:22)

That's awful way.

Tate Brown (78:24)

Yeah, yeah, that's terrible.

Elad Eliyahu (78:25)

Crusade.

Brett Dasovic (78:26)

But the thing to that point is, like, it's like when I pointed all the time. It's like when you point out, like, the. The accounts like defiant Ls, which I think ended up being like foreign influence anyways. But the point is it shows you the all of the hypocrisy. It doesn't matter. That's the point. Like they don't have any intellectual or moral consistency because power doesn't equate to that.

Elad Eliyahu (78:44)

You just know. Crystal Ball believes people are Nazis for a lot less.

Tim Pool (78:49)

The point is there's a guy with the literal Totenkopf. It's the actual Nazi tattoo on his chest. He got it removed, by the way, but he had it for 18 years. It was not something that looked like it. It was it. And Crystal Ball is like, I'm totally fine with a guy who for 18 years had this Nazi tattoo on his chest and never got it removed because he now parrots my beliefs because he's anti Israel.

Elad Eliyahu (79:12)

These are the same people who, when Elon Musk did his hello gesture, were convinced Ryan Grimm, Crystal Ball were convinced that this was, you know, an overture to Nazis or they're trying to ingratiate themselves with Nazi. But no, a literal Nazi tattoo is just like, oh, no, come on, guys. Like, it's just. He was younger. It's just a skull and crossbones. What are you guys talking about? Elon Musk? No. We could read into his intentions with his arm wave, but no, for this guy with the literal Nazi iconography, it's like, no, we'll give this guy a pass. And why? It's because he's a Bernie. He's running as a Bernie Sanders type in the Senate in Maine.

Tim Pool (79:45)

I will say that he suffered playing. He's a self proclaimed communist, antifa and anti Israel.

Elad Eliyahu (79:50)

I will say this, he is definitely only trying to get ahead of the oppo research now. That's why he addressed this on Pod Save America, because they knew that this oppo research was being shopped around. The primary isn't until next summer, I believe in June. So this is his political strategy of trying to get out ahead of it. And he's hoping in what, eight or nine months, nobody's going to give a crap. That's what's going on here, by the way. Totally. Yeah.

Tim Pool (80:13)

It's insane.

Elad Eliyahu (80:14)

He's thinking it's better for it to come out now than in 10 months. Also, one other funny part about this story is that this guy actually also was involved with like training antifa people on how to shoot guns. If you want to pull up that story, he has an antifa flag while he's shooting with people, like doing furries, ears.

Tim Pool (80:30)

He's somehow both a Nazi and a Communist at the same time.

Tate Brown (80:33)

It's mass appeal. You know, build a broad coalition, strand.

Tim Pool (80:37)

Both ends of the horseshoe together at last.

Tate Brown (80:39)

Yeah, the Horseshoe party.

Brett Dasovic (80:40)

He hates Jews, but he's not a Nazi.

Tate Brown (80:43)

Wait, Right. Yeah.

Elad Eliyahu (80:45)

I think he was just looking for a kosher way to hate Jews. It was like, it's not acceptable to hate Jews via being left so much.

Tim Pool (80:53)

I think it's actually this simple. I think there are a lot of guys who are neo Nazis who hated Jews, and they realized it's socially acceptable on the left, so they should join the left, because the left, that's the one thing they care about.

Elad Eliyahu (81:06)

Fuentes would get away with a lot more of his rhetoric if he came out as a commie, if he was a Hasan piker type.

Tate Brown (81:11)

You know, the streets are calling this the Woke Reich. That's what their streets are.

Nate Friedman (81:15)

The use of the term Nazi was one of the. Like I was. It's not a. It's a dumb play by the left because I went to the Tesla takedown protests and I spoke to people that were on the outer edges of the protest. Okay. People who were like, I hate that Elon is a part of the administration, but I want to support this. And I was like, how do you feel about the term Nazi? He's like, oh, no, I hate it. But here it is. The crowd's, like, chanting, right? So this guy is just a normal liberal, you know, like vanilla pudding liberal, whatever you want to call it. And he's just like, no, I hate this. And then I spoke to someone who's. Who's trans, and she was like, yeah, the Democrat Party, they need to get their shit together. So the left just doesn't have a single message like the right does right now. It's rough.

Tim Pool (81:51)

Well, the right doesn't really have a single message either. But the right doesn't have the threat of force against you for defying. So what happens is America Fest says Tim cast. Do your show on stage, and then you end up with someone as crazy as Ian. Who knows? I don't even understand what his idea. He's pro death penalty. He wants to spread democracy around, but he looks like a hippie who talks about DMT and graphene and he's actually debating. Then you got Luke, an anarchist or whatever Luke describes himself as. You've got me more of a moderate, and you've got Charlie. All these different views having a discussion and debate. Because that's why I say that Red Cluster was America. The left and the right Is there. We agree we love America. America is a constitutional republic. We have disagreements, we agree to go on stage, we agree to have these conversations. The left says, if you defy us, you're a right wing troll, you're the enemy and you'll be shut out.

Nate Friedman (82:41)

Right. But my, my only rebuttal to that is that I think if you got a roundtable of like every faction of the right, whatever, most would agree, if not all would agree, we should close the border. The left, the only thing they can agree on is that they hate Trump.

Tim Pool (82:54)

But this is, but that's my point.

Nate Friedman (82:55)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (82:56)

Everybody who is pro the constitutional republic of America thinks America should have a border. That's what defines support for America. So that's what I'm saying. You can have a pro choice, pro universal health care, pro progressive tax, individual debating a, an, an economic laissez faire, you know, capitalist who is a moral traditionalist. And then when they both. But they're black, but we love America. We're just trying to figure out what America should be. When you ask basic things like, should America have borders? I go, well, of course. Otherwise, what is America? The left says, burn it all down. Destroy it all.

Brett Dasovic (83:30)

That's why they've started reimplementing American flags at their protests and stuff like that. Like somebody like sent them a memo. They're like, you know, you're like losing out a lot of business by having communist flags, but not even any American flags.

Tate Brown (83:41)

Yeah, well, that's, that's the big tension is like, well, like Platner, all that there's, there's a lot of aesthetic variation on the left. So Platner is like the tough hiccup. Like, you know, hey, don't mess with my, don't misgender my daughter. But it's like still just like a rebranding of the same ideas. And then you got like Zoron eating with his hands and then you got like Bernie, he's like a communist. So they have a variation in aesthetics, but like fundamentally they're just trying to repackage the same garbage ideas. On the right, there's actually kind of more of like an aesthetic. Like, like, it's like concise, but you get a vast variation in ideology.

Brett Dasovic (84:16)

And when it comes to their large scale ideas, they're forced to fall in line anyways, like, especially with, as the far left gains more control in the party. Right. So how many of the. There was a time when they believed that like Nancy Pelosi and like the old school Democrats were going to be Able to keep the. The new left. Well, not the new left, but the new leftists in line in the party. But now, if you don't fall in line with climate change, if you don't fall in line with open borders, if you won't willingly misinterpret the idea of illegal immigran immigrant as just an immigrant, then you are an enemy to the party. So, yeah, they do all coalesce around the idea that they hate Trump, but Trump is just the figurehead for which is like what Tim said earlier. Gay race Communism, bro.

Tim Pool (84:54)

Did you guys see Nick Shirley's video where he asks the guy holding up the sign, do you think illegal immigrants should be deported? You see this one?

Nate Friedman (85:01)

Yeah. Yeah.

Tim Pool (85:01)

And the guy goes, illegal? Yes. And the one next to him goes. And then he looks at her like, what? And she's like. And then Nick's like, do you break them up? Illegal immigrants should be deported. She goes, they're not illegal.

Elad Eliyahu (85:15)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (85:16)

And he was like, well, he. He says they should be. And then the guy's like, well. And then Nick asks him, he's like, if someone enters the country illegally, should be. Should they be deported? And the guy goes, I'm not so sure. Yeah, we've.

Brett Dasovic (85:28)

We've harped on this issue.

Tim Pool (85:30)

Play that video.

Brett Dasovic (85:30)

It is an unbelievably powerful tool to misconstrue language on purpose. Because first of all, 75% of people are normies who don't know what you're talking and will not look into it any further. The rest of them know that yielding, like using the wrong term is a whale is a way to wield power over people because they will not understand the difference.

Tim Pool (85:51)

Let me play this. Play this clip from Nick Shirley. Let's see if we can get the audio playing right. There we go.

Nate Friedman (85:59)

Yeah, Yeah, I do.

Elad Eliyahu (86:01)

Okay.

Brett Dasovic (86:01)

She's. She's saying she does it.

Elad Eliyahu (86:04)

If they're illegal, then yeah.

Brett Dasovic (86:10)

Do you not support the deportation of illegal migrants? Why not? He does and you don't.

Tim Pool (86:17)

It's not illegal.

Tate Brown (86:20)

Okay.

Brett Dasovic (86:20)

Someone crossed over the border illegally.

Tim Pool (86:23)

Should they be deported? Not too sure about that.

Brett Dasovic (86:36)

The top comment says, when you fake political ideology to Riz the Huzz.

Tate Brown (86:40)

Real, bro.

Elad Eliyahu (86:41)

You know, this guy came legally and he's like, nah, you need. You need to come in here legally, brother. That's what this guy's thinking.

Nate Friedman (86:46)

It is like the changing of the definitions of things, and also in changing the definition of things and inventing new words. So what's. What's difficult for the left is that they can't have camaraderie around a message because they keep inventing new terminology. So, like, one protester that I exposed, she teaches gender expansive youth. Right. That term should not exist. It shouldn't exist. So now people on the left have to be like, okay, they have to learn what that is, and then they have to figure out a way to support it. You know, it's tough.

Brett Dasovic (87:16)

It's like when you use the. If you have to argue with somebody about the idea of racism, you have a completely definition of the. Of the idea of racism than somebody who learned that term in college.

Nate Friedman (87:24)

Yeah. Or simple things like just changing homeless to houseless.

Brett Dasovic (87:28)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (87:29)

I say. I say house retard.

Tate Brown (87:31)

Right.

Tim Pool (87:31)

That. That's a Casey Shornema joke. But, you know, I don't know if she intended to create a phrase that is offensive, but I'm gonna use it.

Tate Brown (87:39)

Yeah. Even, like, their, like, you know, their boiler point, they don't even have agreement on, like, like, defund the police. And like, Zoron advocated for that. And then he got pressed on it and he's like, yeah, I'm actually not gonna fire any cops. And then social workers. Then he had all this vitriol, like, to his left, and I'm like, dude, this guy's like, basically. And even that they're still like, purity testing them. Like, it's so ridiculous what's going on.

Elad Eliyahu (88:02)

I do think there are fractures in the Democrat Party that are irreparable, like, on a handful of issues. I think we will be seeing a major realignment in the Democrat Party and maybe even in the Republican Party. But the Democrat right now is not cohesive. The Democrat Party is not cohesive. And I don't think it's tenable, like, as a group for them to stay together.

Nate Friedman (88:20)

And. But, like, just one, like, quick thing is that that's where Barry Weiss comes in, is because my point about the gender expansive youth. So I know, like, people will watch a video of mine and they might be on the. And they'll see that I expose someone who teaches gender expansive youth, and they'll say, look, I don't like Trump, but I can turn to someone like Bari Weiss, who is on the left who doesn't agree with the term gender expansive youth. That's what I mean by the rescue mission that she's talking about.

Tim Pool (88:39)

But you can't salvage the Democratic Party. I agree with you. But look at what Newsom Pritzker and these other people vying for power do. They're gonna pander to these crackpots Well.

Elad Eliyahu (88:49)

I think it's these three issues that are seriously fracturing the Democrat Party. It's the trans stuff stuff. It's the immigration and open borders and then Israel. Those are like the three main factors that you will find people in the same party on opposite sides of. And that's some of the biggest questions that our politics are frankly dealing with right now. So that is what will continue to be unsustainable in the Democrat Party. We're going to see more primaries largely built around these issues in the Democrat Party and hopefully the Republicans can use it to their benefit.

Tim Pool (89:17)

Let's jump to the story from Newsweek. Who is Nicholas Ray, Texas man arrested over Laura Loomer death threats and we have this report from the Telegraph. Laura Loomer given police protection amid anti Semitic death threats. This is crazy. Check this out. A Texas man has been arrested for making death threats to media figures, including Laura Loomer. Posting an ex Florida Attorney General James Utmeyer said his office had obtained an arrest warrant for Nicholas Ray of Spring, Texas after it was notified of multiple specific death threats made to Jewish conservative media members who live in Florida. Luma revealed she was one of the people who had been targeted. In another post on X Newsweek reached out to Loomer in the Florida General's office by email for comment on the story. Whatever threats come at a time of heightened worries. This we understand, I've certainly talked about it. You get it? Writing an ex, Loomer said she had received credible threats made against her life in the lives of several Jewish and pro Israel conservatives. She said the threats were targeted at Jewish Trump supporting conservatives who lived in Florida. I became one of Nicholas Ray's targets because he was radicalized by the false accusations that I'm a foreign agent and then he proceeded to make a serious and credible threat against my life. We have this from the Telegraph. They say police have been stationed outside right wing influencer Laura Loomer's home after she received anti Semitic death threats. Ms. Loomer, one of Trump's most loyal attack dogs outside of his administration, was among several Jewish figures in Florida who had been subject to a barrage of online threats and abuse. I will just stress the left just held their no kings protest. Hassan Piker has gone on the ground to various protests. The right cannot do this. Prominent right wing conservatives live under 24, seven armed guard because of what the left has threatened against them and what they've actually carried out. The current state of this country is that the left is a psychotic faction of violent terroristic ideologues and I'm sorry, I am not playing these stupid games where liberals are like, well not me. Yeah, well, when you got teachers pointing at their neck and going bang bang. Nurses, accountants jumping up and down cheering for Charlie Kirk's death. When an accountant from Atlanta drives to rural North Carolina and tries to murder a Trump supporter he's never met just for being a Trump supporter. This is the left. And if you find yourself concerned that you're being lumped in with these people, maybe you should should leave the left.

Elad Eliyahu (91:38)

Tim, I wanted to ask you something. I'm not trying to do any guilt by association, but allegedly, Nick Nicholas Ray, this guy was only following five people on Twitter. One, Candace Owens two. APAC tracker, three. Paul Miller. It's this like guy who dresses like as a clown and says the N word on Twitter a bunch and like tick tock and then Israel Exposed and Martin Talk Cowboys, but only those five accounts.

Tim Pool (92:00)

Yeah. Well what's, what is that?

Elad Eliyahu (92:01)

Do you make anything of that?

Tim Pool (92:02)

That, that he was tracking APAC track or whatever?

Elad Eliyahu (92:05)

No, that these were the five accounts that he was following. Like that's it on Twitter.

Tim Pool (92:09)

But what does that mean?

Elad Eliyahu (92:10)

I'm asking you, do you think that means anything?

Tim Pool (92:12)

Like, you mean from what I don't.

Brett Dasovic (92:14)

Like, is it, is it influencing how he sees the world?

Elad Eliyahu (92:16)

Well, that would be the presumption. Yeah.

Brett Dasovic (92:18)

Yeah.

Elad Eliyahu (92:19)

But like I'm not blaming Candace Owens or APAC tracker for why this person decided to send threats to Laura Loomer and other right wing Zionists, but it seems as though something on Twitter might have made this person think or informed him on. On some things that might have led him astray. Like this.

Tim Pool (92:35)

The Israel stuff is getting real hot as well. It's like this new division again.

Brett Dasovic (92:39)

It's like you said, like there's been.

Elad Eliyahu (92:41)

Hot ever since that guy lit himself on fire.

Tim Pool (92:43)

D.C. or when that guy firebombed those people.

Elad Eliyahu (92:46)

Yeah, yeah.

Tim Pool (92:47)

Where was that? In Colorado.

Elad Eliyahu (92:48)

I forgot that happened.

Tate Brown (92:49)

Oh yeah.

Tim Pool (92:49)

What?

Elad Eliyahu (92:50)

Or like when Josh Shapiro's governor's mansion got firebombed and something else.

Brett Dasovic (92:55)

Didn't that happen to him twice? Or something else happened to him last year.

Elad Eliyahu (92:57)

It happened on. I think it was a Jewish holiday.

Brett Dasovic (92:59)

Yeah but like there is a reckoning coming from both parties with what's going with Israel. Right. Like as the next generation comes in, there's less and less support.

Tim Pool (93:08)

And what if we just change the name to like Schmis Real and then said it's gone, there's no more.

Elad Eliyahu (93:14)

I hate to make this. I don't Want to turn this into an Israel episode? Nobody wants to hear the Jewish sob stories, but I think people are spurging out a little bit about the Jews on Twitter. Is that. Is that a crazy thing to say? People are spurging out on Twitter is.

Tim Pool (93:26)

Fair to say they've been spurring out for a very, very long time. About Zejuice. There was a funny, super chat where someone was like, did you guys notice the sunset A little bit weird. Weirder today, Juice.

Elad Eliyahu (93:38)

Well, I was hopeful, too, because for a little while, Candace Owens was blaming this stuff on the frankists, which. I'm Jewish. I don't know what the frankests are. Apparently there's like a little sect of people who, like, I don't know, bridge off. I don't know. But I was hoping they.

Tim Pool (93:53)

I heard she's blaming Turning Point USA for killing Charlie now. Is that true?

Elad Eliyahu (93:56)

Well, you know, there are a lot of Jews that work there.

Tim Pool (93:58)

Huh. Is that true?

Elad Eliyahu (94:00)

Yeah, I'm sure there are.

Tate Brown (94:01)

I think it's. Yeah.

Elad Eliyahu (94:02)

Or Christian Zionists are just as bad. Christian Zionists. I don't think.

Tim Pool (94:06)

I don't. I don't think TPUSA has Jews working there. I think it's.

Elad Eliyahu (94:09)

It's.

Tim Pool (94:09)

It's a Christian trying to think.

Tate Brown (94:10)

Yeah, it's like. It's like liberty students.

Tim Pool (94:14)

I'm pretty sure they're all Christians.

Tate Brown (94:15)

Yeah, they're all Christians. Yeah.

Elad Eliyahu (94:16)

Maybe that's where they went wrong. It could be. You know, they're hiring.

Tate Brown (94:20)

I'm. The Israel, Gaza. Like, maybe a third party should come in. Like, I think the Christians should admit that. You know, I'm just saying, like, we could give us a crack.

Tim Pool (94:28)

I got an idea. No, no, no, hold on. I think I can solve the Israel, Gaza thing right now. We need a third party involved in the whole thing. So let's carve out more land, put it between Gaza and Israel a third area and give it, like. And we'll put another.

Tate Brown (94:45)

I say it should be. It should be the un.

Tim Pool (94:48)

We got to do like.

Nate Friedman (94:49)

Like.

Tim Pool (94:49)

Like Taoists or something.

Tate Brown (94:50)

It should be a rotating seat. Every year, the UN just, like, pulls it like a rabbit out of a hat and it's like, okay, Thailand, you're in charge this year. Good luck.

Tim Pool (94:56)

We don't need nobody. They get like, like, like, it's like.

Tate Brown (95:00)

All the Marshall Islands are in charge. Oh, this is going to be a.

Elad Eliyahu (95:02)

You don't need three powers in the area. We don't need two powers in the area. We need one. We need one undivided Israel from the river to the sea in the Middle East. That will be the peaceful solution here. That's what we'll maintain and allow for long term peace, peace to exist in the Middle East. We need to get rid of these pipe dreams of a Palestinian state. It will never happen. Israelis will not allow it. Maybe this kind of talk is what's driving Nicholas Ray crazy. I guess I'm happy that I'm kind of irrelevant where.

Tim Pool (95:27)

I mean, the issue is how long the war has been going on. Because like, if we, if we look back at other wars throughout history that last, you know, a few years, I mean, look at like Texas breaking off from Mexico or whatever, or the, the, the Mexican American war. We basically took California. It was a few years and then it's over. And then everyone's like, yep, the land is gone. But when you have 70 years of this conflict, it's just, it's never going to.

Elad Eliyahu (95:50)

We're not letting the Jews finish the job. We have to let.

Tim Pool (95:53)

What does that mean?

Elad Eliyahu (95:53)

Jews finish the job of killing all of the terrorists that are in the Palestinian territories.

Brett Dasovic (95:58)

So this is actually.

Elad Eliyahu (95:58)

We need them to be completely neutered. We can't tie one hand behind their back and, and do a ceasefire and then trade. 20 for 2000 prisoners. Israel got back 20 living hostages and they gave back 2000 Palestinian prisoners, including 200 that have blood on their hands. Look, I thought Jews are supposed to get the best fucking deals around, right? This deal is retarded. It's the worst deal I could imagine. It is not sustainable. We are incentivizing hostage taking by giving them numbers like this.

Tate Brown (96:25)

But deals and negotiations.

Elad Eliyahu (96:27)

Me too. And I thought the President was too, and I wanted to tell him. I just had to think, Tim, 20 for 2000.

Tim Pool (96:32)

Here's what we're going to do. Trump's going to go in, he's going to take all the Palestinians, he's going to bring them all to. Where did you say? The Marshall Islands?

Tate Brown (96:38)

That could be an option.

Tim Pool (96:39)

All right, then random every year while they're temporarily having their beautiful vacation. Is it nice there?

Tate Brown (96:44)

It's probably, yeah, there's. Okay, we have a base.

Tim Pool (96:46)

Then we're going to build Maragaza. Yeah. And there's going to be a Ferris wheel, a port. There's going to be kebab on a, you know, kebab, Fast food. And there's going to be sticky rice, like Atlantic City.

Tate Brown (96:56)

Oh, yeah, I like that.

Tim Pool (96:58)

And then they all come back and they have nice houses and it's. Everyone's happy.

Brett Dasovic (97:02)

You know, they asked like, and there.

Tim Pool (97:04)

Will be no Hamas.

Elad Eliyahu (97:05)

You know, I think we could just take all the people that are a problem and just push them somewhere else.

Tim Pool (97:12)

Oh, like, didn't Giuliani do that with the homeless people in New York?

Elad Eliyahu (97:15)

Yeah, yeah.

Tim Pool (97:16)

He put them all in a bus. And just.

Tate Brown (97:19)

Enough. You're going to the Bronx.

Elad Eliyahu (97:20)

Serious issued people. It's like, it's. It's quite simple. What's funny is that people need to be removed.

Tim Pool (97:24)

That's what they do in Chicago. That's like a very common solution.

Brett Dasovic (97:27)

Bust them up a state, right?

Tim Pool (97:28)

Well, in Chicago, when there was like, I talk about the gang neighborhood lir courts, the city just said, bulldoze all the houses. And then we don't care what happens. And then what.

Elad Eliyahu (97:36)

What.

Tim Pool (97:36)

What they did was all these people that were all the gang bangers went to Joliet. So it's like, it's not Chicago anymore. So it ain't.

Brett Dasovic (97:42)

Our problem is they asked, like, James Gunn, like, if. When he saw Superman, right?

Tim Pool (97:46)

And they were like, sucked.

Brett Dasovic (97:48)

But you saw Superman. They were like, did you make this movie? Like, was this supposed to be a commentary on Israel and Gaza? He's like, well, actually, I wrote this movie movie before the writer strike. I made this movie before the war. And so they're like, you made this movie before 1948?

Tim Pool (98:01)

Yeah. Is that what they said?

Brett Dasovic (98:03)

So what?

Tim Pool (98:04)

Is that what they said?

Brett Dasovic (98:04)

That people on Twitter were like, this movie before 1940?

Tim Pool (98:07)

It was funny, though, because after I saw Superman, people were like, it was clearly Israel and Palestine. And I was like, it was Indians and Eastern Europeans.

Tate Brown (98:14)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (98:14)

I was like, I. I don't. I don't see. It wasn't. It was.

Brett Dasovic (98:16)

Okay. So they did give the one dude, like, he had the hot soldier, the hot female soldiers. I thought that was a nod to these idf.

Tate Brown (98:23)

Yeah. And didn't he get a bagel while he was, like, going through the portal?

Tim Pool (98:27)

Is that what it was?

Tate Brown (98:27)

Yeah, I think it was a bagel. Like, he really wanted the bagel.

Tim Pool (98:30)

So I. I will just say that the season finale of Peacemaker was one of the worst things I've ever seen, and it was terrible. Episode 7 was probably closer to a finale, but James Gunn really screwed up Augie's death, and I'm disappointed in the show.

Brett Dasovic (98:44)

No, he can't. He can't keep it out of the TV shows. He's better at doing movies.

Tim Pool (98:47)

He was doing really, like, season one is great, and then season two was pretty good. Was a little wild all over the place. And then the one really Great moment they had set up. He just ruined this.

Brett Dasovic (98:57)

Feel like I grew out of his humor.

Tim Pool (98:59)

It reminds me of that scene from what is it, Tommy Boy? Where he's talking to the waitress and he's like, got the bun in his hand and he's like. And I stroke it and caress it. He rips it to shreds. That's what James Gunn did to Peacemaker. Yeah, I just had to say that. And this is the first opportunity I had to bring it up.

Brett Dasovic (99:14)

Happy to help.

Tim Pool (99:15)

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Brett Dasovic (100:45)

You got to have like the. The sign from V for Vendetta, the strength through unity sign that he carves the V in on the wall at the beginning of the movie.

Tim Pool (100:52)

I mean, it's funny because they paint in that movie. It's a Christian nationalist society. Strength or unity and their evil villains who are torturing people. I would. You know what I'd like to do? I'm really excited for AI because already Sora 2 has the capability to make feature length movies that are. That are good. The problem is that the processing power is too great and there's too many people who want to use it. But I guarantee you, Open AI Internally is probably already doing this. It's just not released to the public. I am going to make a few movies. One, Darth Vader is the good guy. The Empire did nothing wrong. It's all propaganda. And then I'm making V for Vendetta where V is the bad guy and it's all propaganda.

Nate Friedman (101:38)

Can we remake season six to eight on Game of Thrones? Yes, seven to eight. We'll do seven to eight at least.

Brett Dasovic (101:44)

So you can see what's going on.

Nate Friedman (101:45)

In some cases we just need to remake the ending. I can't rewatch the show even though it was my favorite of all time.

Tim Pool (101:50)

I'd like to make remake V for Vendetta. And my argument is this. Obviously in the film, the government are the bad guys. They staged a fake pandemic, killed people.

Brett Dasovic (101:59)

Shut things down, experimented on people.

Tim Pool (102:01)

Experimented on people. What I would do is I would rewrite it from the perspective of V being the villain trying to tear down a country. Because in the V universe, the United States has fallen into civil war and much of the world is in disarray and they have isolated themselves to protect them from the outside threats. You tell it from that perspective where there is this guy who is an extremist trying to destroy the government for his wacky ideological views and people supporting him. I think it'd be more fun, not to mention if you get rid of the. In, in the, in the first Star wars, what did the Empire do wrong? They blew up a planet. If you rewrite it from the perspective of the Empire, I put it like this. Everybody thinks that they hear of their own story. So you rewrite Star wars from the perspective of the Empire and it's, you know, Alderaan was a effectively a terror base and he didn't blow it up, he decimated it. You know, you rewrite it.

Brett Dasovic (103:01)

So like in V for Vendetta, the inciting incident towards the end is where the, the soldier, the Fingerman, kills the little girl wearing the mask. He'll just remake it so she's got like a bomb vest on.

Tim Pool (103:12)

If, if I was going to have AI do it, I'd literally just say write this with an inverted perspective where the good guys are the bad guys. The bad guys are the good guys and justify it properly. Blah blah. But I wouldn't write. No, I think I talked about this with the Dublin riots. I don't appreciate antifa riots.

Elad Eliyahu (103:32)

Why?

Tim Pool (103:32)

Because they're writing like retards for things that make no sense. I've got only the minorist of criticisms for the riots in Dublin right now. Why? Because they're rioting. Because quote unquote, asylum seeker raped a 10 year old girl.

Brett Dasovic (103:43)

Girl.

Tim Pool (103:44)

Or has been charged with raping a 10 year old girl. So when the police protect somebody who raped a 10 year old girl or a group of men who have been raping little girls, I can understand why people are rioting because there is an evil governmental force protecting child rapists. However, we know that's true. The left thinks that police are going around massacring black people and that's not true. Their riots are so. I don't like writing in general. That's why I'm saying I have criticisms. Don't burn down police vehicles and stuff. There are. There are ways you can be more effective than this. But I'm also like, I understand why they're rioting. Yeah. You know.

Nate Friedman (104:20)

Hear about the girl in Sweden who was raped? Did you guys hear about this?

Tim Pool (104:23)

Which one? All right, come on.

Nate Friedman (104:26)

So she was raped by an asylum seeker in quotes. And the judge ruled that it wasn't long enough to deport him. But the rape was not long enough. Do you know how long that's an actual thing? No, but that's an actual thing that occurred.

Elad Eliyahu (104:42)

I mean, if that's how we're measuring.

Tim Pool (104:44)

All right, we're gonna. Let's read your chats. We got mythos. He says War Thunder is a far more serious national security risk than a CNN employee Nowadays. Uncontested says correction. They want to eat their cake and have it too. Yep. Money Badger says follow antifa and what you'll find are furries and commies. But you follow the money and you have no idea where that'll take you.

Tate Brown (105:11)

Yep, it's true.

Tim Pool (105:13)

Shades Water says congrats to Phil and Sarah. Let's go.

Elad Eliyahu (105:17)

Do we know if they had a boy or girl? I guess I'll wait and ask.

Tim Pool (105:20)

We're gonna wait for Phil. Yeah.

Elad Eliyahu (105:21)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (105:21)

Deplorable. Says who was putting the pallets of bricks on corners during the Summer of Love? Random acts of brickings.

Brett Dasovic (105:27)

Was that ever like. I thought somebody said that was debunked or something. I don't know.

Tim Pool (105:31)

I don't believe it. Like there's a pallet of bricks next to a building for no reason. And they're just like. It just so happens, whoever these protests are, there's construction that needs pallets of bricks. Yeah. I don't believe is weird. Those bricks were everywhere, but who knows?

Tate Brown (105:44)

Yeah, there's just, like, cons, you know, all this new brick construction that we're seeing, what, like, what's.

Brett Dasovic (105:49)

How hard it is to get stuff built these days?

Tate Brown (105:50)

Everything's made of plastic now. What do you need the bricks for?

Tim Pool (105:52)

Mason says if you remake Game of Thrones, Jamie needs to kill the Night King with his sword. Newly aflame with the voices of everyone who called him kings. Kingsland. You mean King Slayer. As the only sound you hear, Keller says, just a simple question. Why wouldn't Israel build the exact same buildings and city next to Iran and just move Gaza there?

Elad Eliyahu (106:11)

H. I don't think Iran would take them in, but I do like the idea for Egypt. Like, Egypt should annex parts of Gaza.

Nate Friedman (106:19)

They don't want. They don't want the Gaza?

Elad Eliyahu (106:20)

No, we have to force them.

Nate Friedman (106:21)

The wall is bigger on the, like, Egyptian side. It's. Jordan doesn't want it. Jordan doesn't want them. Egypt doesn't want them. You should listen to Egyptians talk about Palestinians.

Elad Eliyahu (106:29)

Well, Jordans don't want their country to be taken over. Jordan is already, like, I think, 30 or 40% Palestinian. But their king isn't. They also dealt with terrorists from the plo. I believe it was. I believe one of the kings of Jordan was murdered by a Palestinian terrorist. So there's a lot of resentment and tension there. Rather make it their issue, though, than.

Tim Pool (106:49)

One thing we can do is we can neuralink everybody, and then they'll just stop fighting.

Elad Eliyahu (106:56)

Yo, did that even go anywhere? I swear, Elon Musk announces things that just disappear from. Well, people caring or.

Tim Pool (107:03)

There was a big advent in Norlink.

Elad Eliyahu (107:05)

Sure.

Tim Pool (107:05)

We discussed it, and now we're waiting for the next development.

Nate Friedman (107:09)

No, there was. There was, like, a guy, like, controlling.

Tate Brown (107:11)

Like, he was playing, like, Hoy 4.

Nate Friedman (107:12)

That was crazy.

Tim Pool (107:13)

Yeah, he was playing Civilization, I think. Yeah.

Nate Friedman (107:15)

He's playing don't bet against Elon Musk. That's.

Tim Pool (107:17)

He could. He's. He's totally paralyzed, and he's sitting there and they put a computer from. He was playing Civilization.

Tate Brown (107:21)

I mean, he's playing civ. It's, like, great. We've made him autistic.

Tim Pool (107:25)

Siv's great, man.

Tate Brown (107:26)

I love. I'm saying this as a devout civ player.

Brett Dasovic (107:29)

All right?

Tim Pool (107:30)

The real Hydro says Tim cast IRL number 913 with Ryan Long and Danny Polish chalk quote. He adds that if an acid eats the metal quote it leaves a plastic bag. The whole inside is coated. What is that from this. This liquid death thing is kind of funny because a bunch of news outlets are like talking about picking it up and the CEO just made it so bad for himself. Here's an AI news website talking about it. I don't know. But yeah, I've been talking about this for. Oh. Oh yeah. A bunch of people are talking about it. Pooled water. Spa water will be carbonated. Someone said. Someone said make toilet water. I said that'll be our chocolate drink.

Brett Dasovic (108:15)

If you can get as much carbonation as the Minaragua water.

Nate Friedman (108:18)

Let's just.

Brett Dasovic (108:18)

Let's go.

Tim Pool (108:19)

Minaragua is a glass bottle water with a crown cap. It does have plastic in the cap and it's about $1 per bottle at your local grocery store.

Brett Dasovic (108:29)

I get the pla. Like I can get it in a plastic bottle at the dollar store.

Tim Pool (108:32)

No, but you can get them in glass for a dollar as well.

Brett Dasovic (108:34)

So if you like glass, probably different sizes.

Tim Pool (108:36)

The 12 ounces.

Brett Dasovic (108:38)

Yeah, the plastic bottle is like 16.

Tim Pool (108:41)

I think they might. I'm pretty sure they're 12 ounce bottles if you want a glass bottle product. Rubber corks works incredibly common I think even like 30 years ago. But they cost around 2 cents more per crown cap. So if you want plastic free, it is available. These things do exist. But most people just never cared about the plastics. So nobody cares if the gasket on your crown cap is plastic versus rubber.

Tate Brown (109:09)

We could do the plastic bottle and call it slop water. It could be an option. Slop water or like sell like Flint water. We have some options. Yeah, like there's a lot of options.

Tim Pool (109:18)

Yeah, we're. I think we're actually gonna do cans of water as well for the people that don't care about plastic. And we're gonna write pool water in a can for people who don't care about plastic. Yeah, I don't want to cast.

Brett Dasovic (109:29)

Also I want a freaking spa water.

Elad Eliyahu (109:32)

Yeah. Did they ever fix the Flint water?

Tate Brown (109:34)

I don't know.

Elad Eliyahu (109:34)

We just cruised by.

Tate Brown (109:35)

I think everyone just moved out. So we don't know.

Tim Pool (109:37)

Yeah, there's no one like hey, I'll tell you a story.

Brett Dasovic (109:39)

In Michigan from. I made sure not to go to Flint.

Tim Pool (109:42)

I'll tell you guys a story. I went to Flint and I took samples of the tap water from several buildings as well as from the river and brought it to NYU for spectral analysis to see what was wrong with it? Nothing. So I was at Fusion. This was during the Flint water crisis, where the media was all claiming the water was bad. And so I said, I got a great idea.

Elad Eliyahu (110:00)

Idea.

Tim Pool (110:01)

Let's go and collect water samples and film a video where I do a spectral analysis on the water with a mass spectrometer, and then we can show just what's wrong with the water. They love the idea. I went to nyu. I reached out to them, got a sample kit. They said, we need control samples, and then we need, you know, regular samples. So what we did was I took samples of water from where I lived in Miami in the Redlands. Two of each. You take two samples from one from each water source. Went to Flint, went to a residence, went to two businesses, and went to the river, collected water from two different parts of the river, two samples from each. Went back, gave them the samples, and they found that the Flint water was totally fine, and the water from Miami was really high in uranium, and they believe that's from fertilizer run up from the farmlands. And I went to my. I went to the company. I can't remember exactly who I was talking to, but I was like. Like, we got the results back from nyu, and it found the water was fine. And the response was, well, that can't be right. Something must be wrong. We have to do it again because everyone's already reported the water is toxic and bad. It's got lead in it. And I was like, I got the samples from a house, two businesses, and the river, and we didn't see high levels of lead or anything. I think selenium was high, but that wasn't considered to be a big deal. And. And we were like, how do we publish a story that goes against literally everything every news organization is saying right now? We must have gotten something wrong.

Elad Eliyahu (111:28)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (111:29)

So either we go back and redo this, or the story's dead. And the story died. Wow. I'm actually just more inclined to believe that they lied the whole time.

Tate Brown (111:37)

Yeah, sounds like it.

Tim Pool (111:39)

What do I know? All right. Anyway, let's grab some more. Millennial Mama says Glenn. Becky said that when the FBI visited him, they said they were starting from scratch with Antifa. With the Antifa investigation. They wanted info that came from his October 8th special. Glad to hear they've gotten pretty far. Gotten pretty far pretty quickly. Indeed. Brian Dayton says if you created the Tim Cast newsroom, I would 100% support and be a longtime viewer. Time for Tim Cast to put CNN out of business. So here's an interesting thing we actually had around. We had like 10,000 more members than we. We do today because of the newsroom we had at the time. But the newsroom was costing us an insane amount of money and we were getting sued over it. So it was unsustainable. We moved it to Scanner. We couldn't figure out how to monetize it. And ultimately we were like, it's not performing the way we need it to and it's draining our resources. So I think we gotta shut it down. We tried moving some people over to make sure people were still able to work. But considering now the changing landscape, we've actually been having a discussion about bringing back some elements of the news team, but to scanner.com not through timcast. SCNR right now largely just hosts the Inverted World podcast and it was where our news team was. But we're actually thinking of bringing back independent news reporting through scnr.com and we're. We're openly discussing it. It is incredibly expensive. It is extremely hard to do. Now that we got Pentagon press credentials, we'll get at least some vat. We can bring some value to you guys. Don't expect deep investigative stuff because that's not what we do. It's going to be more general inquiry questions. When a news story happens pertaining to like the boat strikes in near Venezuela or whatever, we'll reach out for a comment, things like that. That, that's what we're looking at right now. And I think it would be a very good idea. But it's going to be wholly separate from timcast.com discord community and all that stuff if we do it. Because this was the problem, the muddying, like Timcast.com offering everything from the podcast and a news team. When the news team got in trouble, it threatened to shut the podcast down. So then we were like, let's move the news team to a different company so that they're two separate entities. Because Tim Cast IRL is a, a separate entity with its own standards. It shouldn't get shut down because someone wrote a news article. The problem then is we need to create two distinct memberships. So how many of you would be willing to pay 10 bucks a month for Timcast.com and 10 bucks a month for Scanner news?

Brett Dasovic (114:13)

And brand recognition matters too.

Tim Pool (114:15)

Right. But the Scanner was using Tim Cast News. You know, it's a separate company using. And, and, and we allow the branding to be used in that way. So that would be the idea we could theoretically make. Yeah, that's the challenge. The news team needs its own unique funding. The podcast needs on unique funding. Boonies needs done unique funding. It's very, very difficult. How many of, like, how many people want to sign up for Tim Cast Scanner and Boonies? That's the challenge we're facing for the core fan base. Hopefully Boonies will build up its own members who just care about skateboarding, and the newsroom will build up its own members which care about news. But we're going to start small this time. The original idea was we have the budget, we're going to hire journalists, and then we started the show, started getting put at risk very seriously. Now what I think we'll do is we'll bring on like one or two journalists for scnr, start putting out some articles, and then build up memberships from there and grow it organically. So we'll have some reporting from the Pentagon for you, and the media will cry. What do we got here? Scott Coon says charitable foundations get around the ban on lobbying Congress by setting up an NGO and making donations large enough no one has to report where it came from or where it went. You know, I'm fairly certain that lobbying is done at the poker table. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Ain't nothing anyone can do about it. You sit down at a poker table, you buy in for 50 grand. The lobbyist then says, I'm going to bet $25,000.

Brett Dasovic (115:53)

Oh, you're saying like actual pay? Yes, going, oh, okay. Like that scene in.

Tim Pool (115:56)

You go to a poker table, lobbyist sits down, bets $25,000 on their. On their hand. The recipient then says, I'm all in. The lobbyist then goes, you got me? I fold. And now you have a recordable legal transaction from a lobbyist to the recipient politician or otherwise or PAC or whatever group. And when it goes to the tax. When you file your irs, you say it was a poker game. Yep.

Elad Eliyahu (116:23)

Maybe Pritzker had something like that going on. I think he had indeed. Jack.

Tim Pool (116:26)

No, no, no, no, no bs.

Elad Eliyahu (116:29)

I forgot. I need to reread the article. But he had like gambling winnings of over a million dollars or something like that.

Tim Pool (116:34)

$1.4 million from Pritzker. And he said, I got lucky playing cards. His. His reported income for the year was 10 million. Ain't nobody making 14% of their income getting lucky. One weekend he goes, look, we went to Vegas for a week and I got very lucky playing cards. I mean, he is a billionaire, so maybe he played some high stakes poker or something. But I'm gonna Go ahead and say. Just not that I have any evidence to this, but I. But I think. Guys, let me tell you, you know, watch Hustler Casino or the Lodge when they play high stakes, and there are certain characters you'll see on these shows that will. They'll make a bet of, like, a hundred grand on the worst hand imaginable. There was recently a guy, and I'm not trying to appeal anyone's honor. I'm not accusing him of anything. I'm saying this is an example of a weird scenario. He had eight, three, offsuit.

Elad Eliyahu (117:22)

Okay?

Tim Pool (117:22)

For those who don't know anything about poker, that is like, your chance of winning is less than 10%. And he bet a hundred grand and lost. And everyone was like, yes. Why would you do that? He must have been tilted, I guess. Makes you wonder.

Elad Eliyahu (117:36)

There's this guy, Nick Airball, who plays on Hustle. That's his brand to like.

Tim Pool (117:41)

His brand is no one understands where his money comes from.

Elad Eliyahu (117:44)

That's what it is, too.

Tim Pool (117:45)

No, no, no. His brain is not shoving. Eight, three. Nick's better than that. It's just he's largely considered to be not that good of a player who somehow lost $5 million one year here.

Elad Eliyahu (117:53)

You and Allison, you guys are pretty good poker players. You guys like that?

Tim Pool (117:57)

Allison's nickname is the Manslayer.

Elad Eliyahu (117:59)

I've never beaten her in poker. Whenever I play with her, I lose her.

Tim Pool (118:01)

You can't. She's too good.

Elad Eliyahu (118:02)

So. But does she come across winnings like that? Is she a Pritzker level gambler?

Tim Pool (118:06)

No, we play low stakes. One, two, bro.

Elad Eliyahu (118:08)

Well, she is the Manslayer.

Tim Pool (118:09)

This is like. It's like on a weekend, you. You enter a 1, 2 means it's usually 400, 500 bucks. And then Allison is very patient, and she destroys all of the men.

Elad Eliyahu (118:19)

I need to join you next time you guys go play some poker. It's been a while.

Tate Brown (118:22)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Pool (118:22)

Absolutely.

Brett Dasovic (118:23)

I like the idea that Tim goes. He's like, I'm going to Brett bets. Bet Brett's salary this week, dude.

Elad Eliyahu (118:28)

You should see him at the poker table. The way Tim plays just. Well, he's obviously very comfortable in the stakes that he plays because people get stressed out, like when you get shoved on. But Tim doesn't have that stress, so.

Tim Pool (118:40)

Well, that is.

Elad Eliyahu (118:41)

That.

Tim Pool (118:41)

Those are bad poker players.

Tate Brown (118:42)

Sure.

Tim Pool (118:43)

People should not be playing at stakes that they. They can't afford.

Elad Eliyahu (118:46)

They can't be a crawl.

Tim Pool (118:46)

Yeah, Right. So you'll see a dude show up to the casino, and He's. He's playing one, two. He bought it for 100 bucks, and he's shaking. It's like, bro, take your 100 bucks, go home, like, put it in your bank, save your money, work hard, come back when. When you can afford a $2 bet.

Elad Eliyahu (119:00)

Allison eats fish like those for breakfast.

Tim Pool (119:02)

So they call the manslayer.

Elad Eliyahu (119:03)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (119:04)

We were driving to the card room a year and a half ago, and I was jokingly telling her, like, oh, we're going to pull in. And the old men, they're sitting there, they're playing, they're going to see her, and they're going to go, oh, no, it's the manslayer. And she's chuckling like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We walk into the casino, and some old guy goes, oh, not you. And then she started laughing. The reason why she's so good at poker is because she goes to the casino to hang out, largely to play with me. So we want to play at the same table, and it's. It's fun to hang out. So for me, I'm doing all this advanced strategy, and I'm trying to trap people. I'm trying to experiment with, like, you know, bluffing a certain guy and goofing off. So it can be, give or take some time to. Allison is just like, fold, fold, fold. Kings. I bet. And then when they bet, she's like, I'll call, I'll call, I'll call. And so they think she's weak, and then jam. And she calls. I have the nuts. And they're like, ah. No one can beat her because she's only playing the strongest hands and she doesn't raise.

Elad Eliyahu (119:57)

Don't take this the wrong way. She looks bluffable, and she'll call you down. That's the issue. I've tried to bluff her. She's. She's strong, stay hard, and she doesn't fall.

Tim Pool (120:06)

Well, it's just. The thing is, I would just describe Elson as playing at advanced poker at the highest level. They'd probably. They probably crush her because they start pulling off bluffs, and they'd start exploiting. But at low stakes, she just plays the tightest game possible. So it's. It's like for her, it's nuts or nothing. And then what ends up happening is someone thinks she can't be that strong, and then she always ends up beating him. We got to grab more super chats. Not talking poker, though. All right. Daniel J. Koroka says Long island has a larger population than Rhode Island Island. If the communist becomes Mayor of NYC, Long island should become the 51st state and tell New York to go. Go spit. Yo.

Elad Eliyahu (120:42)

Who is this based patriot sending in this super chat right now?

Tate Brown (120:45)

Long Island Nationalist for real.

Elad Eliyahu (120:47)

And we're taking Brooklyn and Queens. When we succeed, Brooklyn and Queens are a part of Long Island.

Tate Brown (120:52)

Go look at a map and you'll need Rikers. There's a lot of people that need to go there, so.

Elad Eliyahu (120:56)

Sure.

Tim Pool (120:56)

Yeah, that's true.

Tate Brown (120:58)

Multiple islands involved.

Tim Pool (121:01)

Dennis Hughes says congratulations to Phil and Sarah.

Tate Brown (121:03)

Shout out, yes, sir.

Tim Pool (121:06)

Gt or it says, baby just got to hospital to welcome my third child. Shout out to Serge from Parma, Idaho.

Tate Brown (121:12)

Let's go.

Elad Eliyahu (121:14)

We're making babies, dude.

Tate Brown (121:15)

Elon, you can take a few weeks off pumping out a lot of patriots here. This is great.

Tim Pool (121:21)

We are now at the phase with my daughter where she's. She's about what, eight months now, and I made a strawberry smoothie and she was having lentils and I think like mashed carrots. And she just stopped eating and just stared at me as I was scooping this delicious strawberry smoothie. And you know, Allison was like, she's. I don't understand. She always, she loves everything. And I'm like. Because she's seeing me eat this and she's like, I want what he's having. She doesn't want to eat the healthy food. She wants to know what I got because mine looks very, very different. And she won't open her mouth. And it was very funny and we enjoyed it.

Elad Eliyahu (121:57)

Oh.

Tim Pool (121:59)

All right, everybody smash that, like, button. Share the show with everyone. You know. We're going to go over to rumble.com timcast irl for the uncensored portion of the show where you as members of the Discord can call in. So make sure you join us@timcast.com 10 bucks a month. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Nate, do you want to shout anything out?

Nate Friedman (122:17)

Yeah. If you guys want to know who the paid protesters are. Nate Friedman, 97 on YouTube. I put out videos, like when once or twice a week. So definitely check it out.

Elad Eliyahu (122:26)

Definitely. Nate is a very worthy follower and I'm excited to see what's to come. You have a lot of work to do out there. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. My name's a Lot Eliyahu. I'm the White House correspondent and now Pentagon correspondent here at Tim Cast. Also, I don't know if you guys noticed, I am wearing my UB shirt, the Buffalo Bulls shirt, because I went to college and I know there's this sort of anti education streak going on in the Right, guys, After I graduated college, I was too, a little bit unnerved with the.

Brett Dasovic (122:52)

The.

Elad Eliyahu (122:53)

With the degree I got and how it went and my job prospects after the fact. But actually getting an education, the more time I spend around people who didn't go to college, it might be a good idea, guys. I'll just leave you with that. Brett.

Brett Dasovic (123:04)

He's talking about me. Ladies and gentlemen, if you guys want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. But what you should do is check out Pop Culture Crisis. We are live Monday through Friday at 3pm Eastern on YouTube and Rumble. Hope to see you there. Guys, guys.

Tate Brown (123:19)

Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram @realtate. Brown usually hold it out on Thursdays, so you'll probably see me tomorrow. So hang out. Come hang out.

Tim Pool (123:28)

Right? Taking that morning show. We are. We're grooming Tate.

Tate Brown (123:33)

I'm being actively groomed.

Elad Eliyahu (123:35)

Yeah, look, you're up on the. The donation.

Tim Pool (123:37)

That's true.

Tate Brown (123:37)

That's true.

Brett Dasovic (123:38)

This is.

Tate Brown (123:38)

Yeah, so, yeah, being actively groomed, but this is a positive grooming. I'm actually encouraging this. I think this is good.

Tim Pool (123:43)

So when we were talking about the. We were talking about the group chats from the Young Republicans, and the meme was where someone called. Like, someone said gay retard. And then some leftist was like, why would someone call someone a gay? And the response was, because they're my friend. And then Tate said, all of his friends are gay retards. It's his enemies that are normal. Right? And I said, this is the kind of talent we need here at Tim K. All right, we're gonna see you all over@rumble.com Timcast IRL in a second. Thanks for hanging out.

Brett Dasovic (124:11)

SA.