Democrat Senator FORCIBLY REMOVED From DHS Presser, MAGA Says IT WAS STAGED w/ Charlie LeDuff & Aaron Reitz

Summary

Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – Democrat Senator FORCIBLY REMOVED From DHS Presser, MAGA Says IT WAS STAGED w/ Charlie LeDuff & Aaron Reitz

Release Date: June 13, 2025

Introduction

In this episode of Timcast IRL, host Alex Stein delves into the controversial incident involving Democrat Senator Alex Padilla forcibly removed from a DHS Secretary Chrissy Noem press conference in Los Angeles. Joined by guests Charlie LeDuff, Aaron Reitz, Richard Karn, and Mary Morgan, the discussion spans the implications of the event, the state of American politics, immigration policies, and escalating international tensions between Israel and Iran.

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I. The Forcible Removal of Senator Alex Padilla

At the heart of the episode is the disturbing footage and account of Senator Padilla being forcibly removed from a DHS press conference.

• Alex Stein describes the incident:
  "Senator Alex Padilla, Democrat from California, was forcibly removed from a news conference in Los Angeles after he tried to question Homeland Security Secretary Kirsty Noem..." [05:00]

• Mary Morgan expresses skepticism:
  "Is he charged with anything?" [07:43] followed by clarifying that Padilla was detained but not charged and subsequently released once his identity was confirmed.

• Charlie LeDuff provides context based on his experience:
  "You got a grandstanding liberal Democratic senator trying to go viral, who is bursting into a press conference and getting the result that anybody in his situation... would have gotten that result." [09:02]

Notable Quote:
"He was a grandstanding Democratic senator who wanted to go viral, and this was the consequence." — Charlie LeDuff [10:00]

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II. Reactions and Interpretations

The guests debate whether Padilla's actions warranted such a response and discuss the broader political climate that allowed this scenario to unfold.

• Richard Karn emphasizes the necessity of such enforcement:
  "You're treated the same as any other citizen. You behave like we behave." [09:30]

• Charlie LeDuff criticizes Padilla's approach:
  "Even if he were wearing his Senate pin, it doesn't entitle you to burst into a cabinet secretary's press conference." [10:00]

Notable Quote:
"Senator Padilla knew exactly what he was doing. He got on his knees; he wanted there to be that scene." — Charlie LeDuff [10:29]

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III. Immigration Policies and Deportations

Transitioning to immigration, the discussion highlights Donald Trump's actions to revoke work permits for over half a million migrants and the ongoing efforts to control illegal immigration.

• Alex Stein outlines recent policy changes:
  "The Department of Homeland Security revoked work and resident permits for hundreds of thousands of migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela." [79:06]

• Charlie LeDuff and Richard Karn debate the effectiveness and logistics of mass deportations, discussing daily targets and the challenges in removing millions of undocumented immigrants.

Notable Quote:
"Every single one of the 21 million people who are here illegally are in fact here illegally and are therefore under our duly enacted immigration laws, subject to deportation." — Charlie LeDuff [89:58]

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IV. Antifa and Left-Wing Violence

The episode addresses the resurgence of Antifa-related violence, including claims of responsibility for torching NYPD vehicles in Brooklyn, echoing the riots of 2020.

• Mary Morgan reports:
  "Antifa's attacking not just ICE, but any police." [42:47]

• Charlie LeDuff categorizes these groups as domestic terrorists, emphasizing the need for robust law enforcement responses:
  "They are trained under a sort of cultural Marxism that justifies violence." [43:39]

• Richard Karn adds personal insights from his experience covering riots:
  "The left can lead us places. You know what I mean? Those are my friends, too." [37:35]

Notable Quote:
"These are actual domestic terror organizations and should be treated as such." — Charlie LeDuff [43:39]

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V. International Tensions: Israel and Iran

Exploring global issues, the podcast covers Israel's preemptive strikes against Iran's top officials and the potential for escalating conflict.

• Alex Stein reports on the latest developments:
  "Israeli Minister of Defense Israel Katz declares a special state of emergency... following the state of Israel's preemptive strike against Iran." [25:54]

• Charlie LeDuff discusses the implications of these strikes and the possibility of U.S. involvement:
  "President Trump's inclination is to let the situation develop before he commits any troops." [34:47]

• Aaron Wright echoes the concerns about potential U.S. military entanglement:
  "There's a sense in which we're already involved because we provide military aid to our ally, Israel." [34:54]

Notable Quote:
"President Trump has consistently run on foreign policy prudence, restraint, and realism." — Charlie LeDuff [34:47]

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VI. Political Division and Media Influence

The conversation touches upon the deep political divides in the U.S., the role of media in shaping perceptions, and the impact of foreign funding on domestic protests and political movements.

• Charlie LeDuff criticizes Democratic strategies and foreign influence:
  "These are highly coordinated, highly sophisticated money laundering schemes..." [56:27]

• Richard Karn discusses the challenges in prosecuting these groups:
  "RICO cases are always difficult to stick." [46:30]

• Mary Morgan highlights the lack of effective legal actions against groups like Antifa:
  "Antifa should have been designated a domestic terrorist organization years ago." [46:30]

Notable Quote:
"The left is willing to use any means to push their ideological agenda, making it difficult to keep our American cities safe." — Charlie LeDuff [43:39]

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VII. Conclusion and Call to Action

The episode concludes with the guests advocating for stronger immigration enforcement, the need for leadership in the role of Attorney General in Texas, and calls for listeners to engage in political action to support deportation efforts and counter left-wing violence.

• Charlie LeDuff encourages listeners to support his campaign for Texas Attorney General:
  "If you don't get a good state AG in Texas, you're missing out on an opportunity to advance law and order, justice, and the Constitution." [31:28]

• Alex Stein urges listeners to join the Timcast IRL Discord and rumble.com memberships for further engagement and uncensored discussions.

Notable Quote:
"America will be for Americans again." — Donald Trump (referenced by Alex Stein) [71:53]

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Key Takeaways:

• The forced removal of Senator Padilla highlights extreme political tensions and potential overreach in handling dissent.
• Trump’s robust immigration policies aim to deport millions of undocumented immigrants, facing both logistical challenges and political resistance.
• Antifa and other left-wing groups are re-emerging as significant domestic threats, with allegations of foreign funding exacerbating violence.
• International conflicts, particularly between Israel and Iran, pose risks of deeper U.S. involvement.
• There is a strong call for conservative leadership and stricter law enforcement to address these multifaceted challenges.

Final Thoughts:

The episode paints a picture of a deeply divided America grappling with internal and external threats. The guests advocate for decisive action to restore order, uphold the rule of law, and prioritize American interests both domestically and internationally.

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This summary captures the essence of the Timcast IRL episode, providing an overview of the critical discussions and viewpoints shared by the hosts and guests.

Transcript

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[Alex Stein]

Available@pocket hose.com terms today, Senator Alex Padilla is forcibly removed from DHS Secretary Chrissy Noem's news conference in Los Angeles. Apparently he kind of rushed the the news conference and I'm not sure if it was Secret Service or DHS agents that stepped in, but he was actually taken out of the room and they locked him up a little bit. I think he was, he was in handcuffs for a little bit. So we'll talk about that. We're going to talk about some of these groups that are funding the LA anti ice protests which are actually going to be taking, taking a taken off across the country. But there are multiple groups that are sending money, sending supplies. People have seen masks turn up. Allegedly there are new developments of, of pallets of bricks and stuff. I'm not so sure about how the validity of those claims, but that's one of the things that you're hearing. And antifa anarchist blogs post claim of responsibility for torching NYPD vehicles in Brooklyn. This is definitely continuation of, of the, the violence that we saw in the riots during 2020. It's the same type of people, even if it's not the actual same people. So we're going to get into the, the odds and ends of that. Donald Trump has made a statement that he supports amnesty and then a Little bit later he walked it back or yeah, he made a post on Truth Social. Walking it back. So we'll see if we can figure out where Donald Trump stands. Does he want the farmers to stay? Does he want the farmers. Farmers to go? What, what's the deal? Media ITE was reporting that Trump cancels work permits for over half a million migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela. So they're continuing to do the the things necessary to control the border and control the immigration influx. So we'll talk about that. What else do we got on here? We've got someone talking about how much they'd rather live next to next door to MS.13 that to MAGA morons so we can dunk on them. And then if we get to it, oh, in the after show I think is we're going to talk about it st about submarines and deep water. But first we need you to head on over to cast brew.com and buy some coffee. All right. We still I don't think we have the prime time with Alex Alex Stein anymore. I'm not sure prime time grind is out. Maybe it's out anyways. But we've got K cups, we got Appalachian Nights, K cups, we've got Ian's Graphene Dream K cups, we've got Ian's Graphene Dream, which is the top seller. You can get yourself some focus with Mr. Bocus, I think, still and Appalachian Nights or maybe a little bit Sleepy Joe. But head on over to Casper Coffee and then after you do that, head on over to Timcast.com and join our Discord. Become a member and then join our Discord and then you can call in and talk to our guests and us. In the after show you can get to know other podcasts that are happening in the Discord. There's pre shows, there's post shows. You can meet like minded people. So head on over the Discord and become a member. You also want to become a [e-mail] rumble.com will give you access to the after show. It gives you access to the green room, which is filmed before the show. Lots of great stuff. So head on over to rumble.com and become a member there. But joining us to talk about all these things tonight is Charlie L. Duff. How you doing, sir?

[Richard Karn]

I'm well, man. How are you?

[Alex Stein]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Richard Karn]

I'm a reporter. I work for the Michigan and Jors Politics and Lifestyle in Michigan. Won a Pulse Prize at the New York Times. Wrote a couple bestsellers. I worked for Fox National Correspondent. I'VE been through a million riots. I crossed the desert with the Sinaloa cartel in the year 2000. In 2023, I crossed the Rio Grande with an ex con from Nicaragua named elvis who had 15 pesos to a name and he couldn't swim.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, well, all right. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. And also we've got Aaron Wright's, who is running to be the AG of Texas.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, that's great.

[Alex Stein]

Go ahead, introduce yourself.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah. So this morning, I announced that I am running for Texas Attorney General to succeed the great Ken Paxton. But before then, I was a presidentially appointed official at the Justice Department, Ted Cruz's chief of staff for a couple years. Paxton's deputy for a couple years was a Marine officer. Went to Afghanistan once before law school. Married, four kids. Happy to be here.

[Alex Stein]

Awesome. Well, we appreciate life right there.

[Charlie L. Duff]

It's a good life.

[Alex Stein]

Mary's here.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Not the best haircut, but, you know, good life.

[Alex Stein]

Mary Morgan is here.

[Mary Morgan]

Hello, everyone. My name is Mary Morgan, and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Tim Cast. I'm happy to be here.

[Alex Stein]

All right, so let's get right into it. NBC News reports that.

[Richard Karn]

Where's Tim?

[Alex Stein]

Tim is out sick. Okay. I'm. I'm here. Oh, you're gonna. You're gonna wear the beanie. There you go. So anyways, yeah, yeah, Tim and didn't do his. His daytime show today, and he didn't do. He's not doing nothing. I think he's getting sick. I'm not sure if he's gonna be back tomorrow either, but we'll see. Anyways. NBC News reports Senator Alex Padilla, Democrat from California, was forcibly removed from a news conference in Los Angeles on Thursday after he tried to question Homeland Security Secretary Kirsty Noem during a news conference related to immigration. I'm Senator Alex Padilla. I have Secretary Padilla said denome. Which prompted several men dressed in plain clothes to physically push him out of the room. A top FBI official later said bureau personnel and Secret Service agents were involved in the senator's removal. Padilla's office shared a video of the incident with NBC News. The video shows Padilla being taken into a hallway outside and pushed face forward to the ground as officers with FBI identifying vest told the senator to put his hands behind his back. The officers then handcuffed him. So what do you guys think? Should we handcuff more senators? Pardon me. Oh, we got video. Okay.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh, I want to see this.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. Let's see how how legit was this?

[Mary Morgan]

Rat fights.

[Richard Karn]

Sir, Sir. Hands up. I'm Senator Alex Padilla. I have questions for the secretary. Because the fact of the matter is. Okay, he didn't say that right away. Criminals that you're rotating on your. Okay, whoa, whoa. You just. With everything going on in la, some guy runs into a room like that, and I'm a senator, like, yeah, what are you excited?

[Mary Morgan]

I'm sorry.

[Alex Stein]

Stop resisting. Other hand. Turn other hands.

[Mary Morgan]

Is he charged with anything?

[Alex Stein]

No, if I understand correctly, he's got detained. He's not charged with anything. They let him go once they found out who he was and what the situation was. The Democrats on the Hill are acting like this is the end of the world.

[Mary Morgan]

Right.

[Alex Stein]

This is the nightmare scenario that Donald Trump is brought to the United States and the terrible authoritarian regime he is installing.

[Mary Morgan]

The way that it was put earlier today was that he lunged at her. So I didn't see that part of the video. Unless.

[Charlie L. Duff]

No, I mean, he was. He.

[Mary Morgan]

Was he coming at her?

[Charlie L. Duff]

Saw him. And by the way, Padilla, you know, when I was Senator Cruz's chief of staff, I had to interact with him, and several times. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. I say he's probably six, three. I'd bet £230 looks it. Yeah. I mean, he's a big guy. And you could see him as the. As the. I don't know if it was Secret Service or whatever her personal security detail was. They were trying to gesture. Hey, you can't just. You got to come back and you saw him push his chest up against them. So, look, here's a. Here's a grandstanding liberal Democratic senator trying to go viral, who is bursting into a press conference and getting the result that anybody in his situation, whether he was Senator Padilla or just Alex, anybody doing some antics like that would have gotten that result.

[Mary Morgan]

No, you'd expect antics like that from Congress.

[Charlie L. Duff]

You would or wouldn't?

[Mary Morgan]

I would.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yes, of course. That's what I'm saying.

[Richard Karn]

Press conferences, and you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed. And bum, rush, lunge, whatever. You barged in there, you started yelling. You didn't say who you were. You weren't wearing your Senate pin. It pushed you back, you pushed forward again. Okay, so maybe you're like a homeless nut. You're going into the hallway, right, and you're going to be removed. Now if you want to do some criticism, maybe they had to put him to the ground. You could have just cuffed him right there calmed him down. Right. But because you're a United States senator, you get no special. Right? Yep. You. You behave like we behave. And I'm incensed because I used to live in LA and I love it. It gave me my first child, it gave me my first home. Nobody in charge in California has said, take care of each other, don't burn anything, do it peacefully. Nothing. It's all of this.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, yeah. Look, I don't give Senator Padilla any credit here. I mean, even if he were wearing his Senate pin and announced himself as, hi, I'm Senator Alex Padilla, it doesn't entitle you to burst into a cabinet secretary's, like, press conference. And by the way, when he went out into the hallway, you. He knew exactly what he was doing. You could see it if you replay the clip again, he got on his knees. He wanted there to be that scene. Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

He threw himself on the floor. You could see him in the video doing it. They didn't push him down. It's like, you know when you pretend to slip when they don't put down the wet floor sign.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Right. And you can see the picture on the left there, like they're trying to get his arms behind his back. He's actually resisting that. And so the only way that you can get his arms behind his back is you gotta bring him to the floor.

[Richard Karn]

Oh, by the way, so the Homeland Security director is in LA when they're expecting a. It's been a wild week and it's going to be a wild weekend. And a guy comes up like that, well, what do you think is going to, he knows what was going to.

[Alex Stein]

Happen to that point. Not only that, but you've had, you had two attempts on Donald Trump's life, you've had multiple people that were committing arson and committing all number of crimes that were related to people for having Teslas because they had the wrong politics. The left has been targeting people for the clearly and openly for the better part of, you know, a year now.

[Charlie L. Duff]

That's right.

[Alex Stein]

It's been. And it's been, it's been unambiguous.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yes.

[Alex Stein]

So to, to think that, hey, we need to have a little extra security because people are trying to, you know, throw their weight around inside of a, inside of DHS news conference. That's not, that's not unusual or some kind of odd expectation.

[Richard Karn]

I think that's fair to say.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, it's completely reasonable to say, okay, we're not going to let you approach the elected officials who happened to share the same political ideology or political party of the people that have been attacked historically for the past year.

[Richard Karn]

Pretty open, if I might. Afterwards he gives a little press conference. Saw somewhere out on the steps of the federal building there and he says, well, I was in the same building and I heard she was giving a press conference and since I'm not getting any information I thought I would go and listen to see if I could pick up a few clues here. But did that look like a guy that walked into a room to quietly listen?

[Alex Stein]

No.

[Richard Karn]

Maybe stand against the wall, wave to her afterwards and said madam, can I get a moment of your time kind of thing?

[Alex Stein]

No.

[Richard Karn]

So I'm not buying it to your point.

[Charlie L. Duff]

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[Charlie L. Duff]

Or cancel CT mobile.com at the drop of a hat to use violence to push their ideological agenda. It is it is not safe to assume that conservatives necessarily going to do that. But today's left BLM the sort of riot the anti ice riots now the threats against the president, the constant threats online against people in this administration. It's it is not unreasonable to assume that somebody busting in to take out the dark. The Secretary of Homeland Security is going to try to propagate violence.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. So NBC News went on to say President Donald Trump's immigration policies and the administration's handling of demonstrations against those policies have sparked an outcry in recent days after protesters clashed with officers from Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Los Angeles. On Friday, the president deployed a number of deployed members of the National Guard and later Marines to assist. To assist local law enforcement. Dozens of demonstrations have taken place across the country in the days that followed. Speaking to reporters later Thursday, Dealer said that he was receiving a briefing from military officials when he learned Gnome was in the same building and decided to join her briefing.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Oh, of course. So this is. This is. This is a. Again, a grandstanding Democratic senator who's like, wait a second, I could go viral here. I'm gonna go do something stupid. And I mean, mission accomplished. In a way. He did do something stupid.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. I mean, talking about him, I mean, I don't know that it's. I consider it stupid. I think it's pretty predictable. And also, you know, it's. It's emblematic of the times that we live in where everyone wants that viral.

[Richard Karn]

Clip and journalism there.

[Alex Stein]

Pardon me.

[Richard Karn]

Look at the bad journalism. Padilla said he was receiving a briefing from military officials. Okay. He wanted answers. He's talking to the military. When he learned Gnome was in the same building and decided her to join her briefing. I was there peacefully, he said. I didn't see that on the clip.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I mean, I don't. He was definitely trying to use, you.

[Mary Morgan]

Know, his weight around the first, like, union address that Trump gave. And who was it that started, like, yelling and causing a huge scene in the.

[Alex Stein]

I don't know who it was, but that's actually happened more time.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Oh, this. You're talking about the State of the Union.

[Richard Karn]

Congressman Kane. The guy with the cane.

[Charlie L. Duff]

With the cane. He was shaking.

[Mary Morgan]

Green.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yes, green.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, exactly.

[Richard Karn]

Right.

[Mary Morgan]

He disrupted hysterics and the melodrama, and he was given way too many chances before getting thrown out of there.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Totally. Right, right.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. I mean, and it does show that the, you know, the. The reaction by Speaker Johnson to not actually do anything was definitely, you know, kind of left a bad taste in my mouth because.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Against Green. Yeah, well, he was eventually. I mean, it led to Mary's point. I mean, he went for, like, way too long, but I think he was eventually.

[Alex Stein]

Well, there. No, they. They went. They adjourned. Yeah, they adjourned because he wouldn't shut up.

[Richard Karn]

Well, I could Tell you is as a swing voter in a swing state, me, you know, this ain't doing it for me. It's. It's not. This is the strategy. I can't, I can't. I used, you know, used to never belong the Democratic Party. But when you're from Detroit, that's how you think.

[Alex Stein]

Sure.

[Richard Karn]

I never moved. Where did these people go? I love this country. This is.

[Alex Stein]

Well, that's the thing. Now nowadays, at least presently, the people that are protesting and rioting, they're not Democrats that love this country. They're progressives that see only the flaws in the United States and their.

[Richard Karn]

Looks like progress to you, man.

[Alex Stein]

No, not at all.

[Richard Karn]

To be called a progressive. Of course not when it's burned it up.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, it's, it's. They believe that, that the destruction of the existing system is necessary for the new system to, to exist. That's right. But I think we're gonna go to. We got some breaking news right now. Nick Sorter is reporting that explosions are heard in Tehran, Iran. Per Wall Street Journal. Nick says it seems it has begun. Pray for America. Pray for our troops. Which is great. I love the sentiment. But this should not be the United States carrying out these attacks. And if I understand correctly, it is not the United States. So.

[Richard Karn]

What'S good old Nick reporting? Or is he reporting somebody else's reporting?

[Alex Stein]

I think he's reporting someone else's report.

[Richard Karn]

I stay away from it because I don't know what's going on.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

This guy's saying is Israel attacks around.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, Israel attacks Iran. Visuals from Tehran. We've got some video here. Yeah, what's up? Okay. All right. So.

[Richard Karn]

Well, that could have been from the last time.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I'm. I mean, I'm gonna keep calm.

[Richard Karn]

I. I don't know any. I'm gonna keep calm. I'm gonna wait.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I mean there's a.

[Mary Morgan]

We're all gonna die eventually.

[Richard Karn]

That is true.

[Mary Morgan]

Sorry, I'm laughing it.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Look, I, I hope, I hope that. I mean, I'll withhold judgment until we see what, what's going on, but I, I hope that the United States doesn't get plunged into another Mid east war. I mean, I went to Afghanistan. I remember, you know, 9, 11 happened when, when I was a freshman in high school. And it shaped like that whole teen and 20 years and I went to Afghanistan. I remember. Totally sold on the mission. We got to go get the bad guys. They're gonna come here to get us. I mean it was very. It was a true believer. And then you get to Afghanistan and you're like, oh my gosh, this is never gonna be. It doesn't matter how many, you know, Dari or Pashtun constitutions we print. This ain't going to stick. It ain't going to take root. And I just, I, I hope that.

[Richard Karn]

I went to Iraq, dude, and like, it was with the, the Marines. 24th. There ain't no weapons of mass destruction here. Hey, Colonel, there's no weapons here. We've been told we're here to impart democracy.

[Alex Stein]

I'm like, oh, no, you can't, you can't make people want something. You know, it's, it's the whole, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

[Richard Karn]

Well, you better get it right before you start sending my brother over here. You see what I'm saying?

[Alex Stein]

I, I complet. Completely agree with you, but that was the failing of, of the, you know, the first 10 years of this, this century. You know, the, the admin. Bush administration's assertions that actually we, they're just like us and we, we can just show them democracy and they will obviously decide that they want Jeffersonian Republican government.

[Mary Morgan]

And that's crazy. I'm not even fully convinced I want those.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, right.

[Richard Karn]

They only said that after we were there. That wasn't, that wasn't the.

[Charlie L. Duff]

No, I don't know. That was, that was, that was very much sort of the neoconservative thinking at the time. It's that, look, there are people, there are sort of universal political values that are shared across time, culture and space, and that there are regimes that from time to time, in place to place, will oppress those natural instincts. And so we need to topple those regimes to then let freedom breathe. Yeah, and I think that that, that philosophy.

[Alex Stein]

That's an error.

[Charlie L. Duff]

A total, it is a total error.

[Richard Karn]

Completely. Completely. Let's remember, though, that's not. Well, I watched the planes hit the Twin Towers and I covered the ground zero for a year. The action to send my cousin me, you, the way they sold it to us was not about selling democracy. It was like, those hit us. Go get that guy.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

And then some more BS were also involved.

[Alex Stein]

Well, my, my big. Yeah, my biggest, my biggest memory of the, of the, The Iraq War and, and the justification for it and stuff was all about weapons of mass destruction, was all about the nuclear threat that Saddam Hussein would pose to the United States and the possibility of not just a dirty bomb, but an actual functioning nuclear weapon in a, you know, port city Here in the US that was the. The argument that was made that I heard most fre.

[Richard Karn]

But there was the tie to Al Qaeda.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Look, there was that whole time. There was also a tremendous amount of mission creep, like during this time. Right. So 9, 11 happens. Okay, who did it? Al Qaeda. Those are bad guys, right? No question. Bad guys. All right, who's harboring them? Well, there's this political party in Afghanistan called the Taliban. So the Taliban is the ruling party of a regime that is harboring the bad guys. So we're going to go and get the bad guys. But then, then it creeped into. Well, if you break it, you buy it. So we're here breaking things. Well, I guess the moral thing to do is to sort of, we're gonna blow you up, and then we're gonna rebuild you. And then Iraq creeped in because people had been salivating over toppling the Saddam Hussein regime for decades. Now. You had the pretext where Americans eyes are now oriented toward the Middle East. Now's the time for Saddam Hussein to go down. So why don't we start a second war in Iraq? And then it just spiraled, spiraled, spiraled. And what kept it going for that whole time was a philosophy of regime change, which we've sort of already articulated, which is that these people want freedom. The bad guys don't hate our freedoms. So let's take out the bad guys.

[Alex Stein]

That hate our freedom, and then we'll be safe. And then the people of whatever country they're making the argument for will, you know, democracy will blossom. And that one.

[Richard Karn]

So here's what happened for 20 years is, in fact what we'll do is they hate our guts. We're going to pay them through usaid. We're going to build a water treatment plant in Fallujah that never gets built. And when you're over there, right, like, you run out of cigarettes or chewing tobacco, who do you got to go to to get cigarettes? It's the guy in the white robe who's got dough and American tobacco. And you're like.

[Charlie L. Duff]

But I think that. I think that what's encouraging, though, is one of the things that propelled President Trump to the national stage first back in 2015, 16, and then again in, well, frankly, again in 2020. There were some issues there. And then in 2024 was a rejection of this philosophy. Yes, it was a failed experiment for the better part of 30 years or 20 years, and it was a rejection of that. So part of why I hate to see this is not only Because I just, you know, war is like not the, not the best thing. It's necessary sometimes, but it's not the best. But I don't want to see us, I don't want to see Americans forget the lessons that we've learned in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Mary Morgan]

I am surprised and admittedly I don't follow geopolitics like at all, but the last I heard, and tell me if I'm wrong, the US had a proposal, sort of compromise that they would take their uranium enrichment off of their own land. And as far as I had last checked into it, they had not even replied to that proposal yet.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Talking about, you say they, Iran had not.

[Mary Morgan]

Iran, yes. They had not even replied formally to that proposal yet when this happened. Yes, I would, I thought at least that Israel would have waited until there was a formal rejection of the US's proposal to them.

[Alex Stein]

I don't know.

[Mary Morgan]

Which wasn't even, they might have taken it.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Right.

[Richard Karn]

As I said, the start of this segment, I don't know. And I was a younger man when I didn't know and I just followed. Yeah, I'm a wiser man. I don't know. It's a good question you ask. Maybe Israel has intelligence that Iran sped it up. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that video is true. I don't know why the bombs went off, but I'm gonna, as a wiser guy, I'm coming at with caution.

[Alex Stein]

We've got this tweet from Barack Ravid. Ravid, yeah. Breaking. Israeli Minister of Defense Israel Katz declares a special state of emergency in the home front throughout the entire state of Israel. Following the state, Israel's preemptive strike against Iran, a missile and drone attack against the State of Israel and its civilian population is expected in the immediate future. Katz said. I think that kind of goes without saying. And I, if I, if I understand correctly, the opinion is that the response from Iran is not going to be just, it's not going to be small, it's going to be, you know, you're going to probably see hundreds of missiles shot at Israel. I, and I don't, I think, think that Israel does not expect the Iron Dome to be able to handle the volume.

[Charlie L. Duff]

And what we see, again, assuming this is true, it seems to me what stands out to me is that the Israeli Defense Minister did in fact confirm this was a preemptive strike.

[Aaron Wright]

Yeah. And that's like what they've been doing for a long time, like the six Day war.

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[Aaron Wright]

They're kind of like the, let's say the leading experts on these preemptive strikes and like taking care of something before it even is a problem for you. So that, like this, it's interesting to see what's going to happen from, with all this.

[Richard Karn]

What did they strike that hasn't been said yet?

[Aaron Wright]

Yeah, I've been trying to get information as this because as soon as we went live, this is kind of when we started getting reports about 8:00.

[Richard Karn]

Exactly.

[Aaron Wright]

So we had to run the whole first segment first before we got to this too. But all the information you have now is what we have.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. I mean it's all AI has.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Has anybody in the Trump administration put out a statement? We haven't seen anything yet.

[Alex Stein]

Not that I'm aware.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I'd be curious if during the course of show if something, something comes out.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. I mean I would not be surprised if some kind of.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Surely there's got to be something.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. Because I was like, I was going to ask a question.

[Richard Karn]

So.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I just, I don't see, I don't see how the U.S. i don't see how the U.S. has to get drawn into this. I do think that Israel could have waited, but I don't, I still don't see how the US has to be involved.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Well, those, so they're, those are two different questions. Your second question I think is an interesting one, which is I don't see why the US should get involved. But your first question was I don't see how it could get involved. And those are slightly different because what's still happening to this day in 2025 is you've got, even on the right, you have a huge philosophical difference on an approach to geopolitics. I mean there's this sort of neocon view and then there's the more realist or people call it isolationist view and it's not particularly clear who within the Defense Department or the national security apparatus which one controls which one prevails. And I think ultimately the President as a commander in chief has got to make the decision. My sense is that President Trump's inclination is to let the situation develop before he commits any troops. I think President Trump has consistently run on foreign policy prudence, foreign policy restraint, and realism. And I think his first instinct is your instinct, which is like, I don't want to immediately mobilize the troops. This isn't.

[Richard Karn]

The Bush troops is a big leap. You know, we're involved right now. We're involved with intelligence, armament.

[Alex Stein]

So go ahead. Actually, please expand on that. You think that the US Is. Is providing intel and you think the US Is providing them weapons and we provide them money.

[Richard Karn]

I mean, these are just facts that we know that have been going on for years.

[Alex Stein]

So you're talking about the more broad issue. There's the foreign. Foreign aid to isra.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah, there's that. We know.

[Alex Stein]

Yes.

[Richard Karn]

Right now, just dumping troops in there. I don't know about that. Right. But the world already knows this. So let's bring it around back to the border. Who did we let in? Are there Iranian cells here? You know, is there a way to.

[Alex Stein]

I don't think that. I think the question is almost a guaranteed. Yes, that there's. There are people, that there are Iranians here. I don't know that they're state sponsored, but there are Iranians here that don't look positively on the US I think that's a fairly safe assumption.

[Charlie L. Duff]

And there was no. There was no mechanism or political will to vet anybody over the past.

[Richard Karn]

Exactly. Anyway, yeah, it's the worry. The short term worry. Short term, sure.

[Alex Stein]

So what have we got here?

[Aaron Wright]

Yeah, we have a couple more things. Counseling with this. The home front command. It seems like they're sending this out to people in Israel right now, which is basically saying to adhere to the home front command guidelines, which you'd expect to see something like this. And then we also have these commercial flights from OSINT Defender here showing how the commercial flights have been rerouted on Tel Aviv and then also around Tehran. So we don't really know necessarily where everything's being struck, but judging by these two, these two, I guess, pieces of information, you know, they're expecting the results.

[Richard Karn]

What is OSIN Defender?

[Aaron Wright]

The first one is an X page. Yeah. Shout out OSINT Defender.

[Richard Karn]

And the first one was the Israeli government. So that's an official.

[Aaron Wright]

This is what they posted out to everyone that's in the.

[Richard Karn]

Well, it's on anyway.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. Well, definitely.

[Richard Karn]

Wow. Yeah. Is anything good going on, man?

[Alex Stein]

Not today.

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[Richard Karn]

Aaron, settling right in.

[Alex Stein]

We got it. So Ken Paxton, who is the currently the ag, right, he's running for which seat is he going to be?

[Charlie L. Duff]

United States Senate. So John, he's, he's, he's jumped into the Republican primary to primary John Cornyn.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, okay. All right.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah. So, so he, Ken Paxton has been the Texas AG for three terms or so, four year terms. Right. It's been just over a decade for him. And Paxton has taken what, you know, 15 years ago, state AGs, nobody was really talking about like state AGs in the same way that they don't talk really about state treasurers or, you know, state AG.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I mean, AGs nowadays actually it kind of does matter.

[Charlie L. Duff]

It matters. That's what I'm saying. But that evolution from ags kind of being like a B team, state office holders, guys who want to be the next governor or that's why they call AG like aspiring governor, because they're just sitting there and waiting to go be the next one. But it was guys like Paxton and very few others who sort of wielded their constitutional powers to make a state AG something that's really a national force. And so, yeah, I'm running for Texas Aggressive. But folks need to understand and your national audience needs to understand that if you don't get a good state AG in Texas who presides over the largest Republican law firm in the country by orders of magnitude, you're missing out on an opportunity to really advance the ball for law and order, for justice, for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights. So Paxton is the one that turned it up a notch. He turned it up to 11 and is now running for the Senate. So now the seat's open and I've jumped in.

[Alex Stein]

Awesome. We actually just got this update. Was that. Yeah. So we just actually got this update from Alana Treen. Donald Trump is convening a cabinet level meeting as Israel launched what it called preemptive strikes against Iran. A White House official in two sources familiar with the plans told her and Kylie Atwood the meeting was planned before the strike, the sources say.

[Richard Karn]

Who is she? Alana Train.

[Alex Stein]

Hold on one second.

[Richard Karn]

I got checked, man.

[Alex Stein]

I've been White House reporter for cnn.

[Richard Karn]

Oh.

[Charlie L. Duff]

So let me read the. Let's see.

[Alex Stein]

What was that? The meeting was expected to focus on the US Response to the developing events in Iran. Two of the sources said Trump was seen leaving The Congressional picnic at the White house shortly after 8pm The White House declined to comment. Yeah, I, I mean, I, like I said, I still can't, I can't imagine how the United States, you know, benefits from being involved in this. I know that the, the argument that people say is like Israel's a, our greatest ally or whatever, you know, the, we need to, we need to support Israel because they're surrounded by enemies and they're a democracy in the Middle east and then yada, yada, yada. But I still don't see why, why the United States needs to be involved when honestly it's my opinion that Israel has more than enough technological capability to handle Iran themselves.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, look, is Israel is, is a critical ally of ours? I think we just need to let the situation develop a little bit. If, if, if the President determines that critical American national interests are, are at risk of non intervention, then maybe intervention is the way to go. But I, I think that what President Trump is going to expect, if we do get more involved, and to your point, like, there's a sense in which we're already involved because we do provide military aid to our ally, Israel. But President Trump, I think, I anticipate that he would, if we do get more involved, be able to articulate a vital national security interest that is more concrete than the basis for the wars that we went to over the past 20 years.

[Richard Karn]

Saudi Arabia is there too.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. I mean, Saudi Arabia has way more concerned about what Iran's doing.

[Richard Karn]

Also a client slash business partner of ours. Remember when the Iranians blew up their pipelines?

[Alex Stein]

Oh, yeah.

[Richard Karn]

Okay. So, you know, there was a big party there a couple weeks ago, but it's not my bellywick, but I just. My mind's running. Right, okay, so if we put troops over there, we got troops in LA tonight, right?

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I mean, technically, yes, we do.

[Richard Karn]

So just to go back around there, back to the riots and whatever, people are so dumb. The Democrats are really dumb because I'm from Detroit. In the, in the 67 riots, the 81st and the 82nd and 101st Airborne were in Detroit in 1943. Six, I, I don't know. Battalions came in to stop the riots in the Civil War in 1863, the United States army was there. So Detroit has the great history of being the only United States city to be occupied by the United States military three times. So this isn't unheard of. You know what I'm saying?

[Alex Stein]

No, no, no, no.

[Richard Karn]

He's. Gavin Newsom's tweeting it.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

Outrageous.

[Alex Stein]

I mean, constitutional.

[Richard Karn]

It's not.

[Alex Stein]

No, no. The. The. In fact, the. The Trump administration has been well within its rights, within the legal boundaries set up in the Constitution and stuff. As of right now, the military is there, and all they're doing is drawing security for the federal. Federal agents, you know, your ICE agents and. And DHS and stuff, so they can carry out their duties, but otherwise, like, the. They're not doing the police work. Like, the military is not titled to.

[Richard Karn]

Well, I mean, precedent for it.

[Alex Stein]

So I. I assume there is with the Insurrection Act. The Insurrection act would have to be invoked for them to do that kind of stuff. And as of right now, to be honest with you, Donald Trump is. He's acting assertively without. Honestly, without acting aggressively. As much as there are people that are going to swear up and down that he's being aggressive, the fact just the. The federal agents carrying out their job is not aggressive. That is just them doing their jobs.

[Charlie L. Duff]

The hysterics from the left over the very disciplined approach that the president has taken is just totally disproportionate and weird, frankly.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I mean, it's not weird. It's a tactic with a goal.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Well, yes, and also the left is weird. And so it's just they've lost their minds over a completely reasonable and sort of tempered response, almost.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah, I like the left. They're cool. This is the far left. Nut jobs.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, the left.

[Richard Karn]

The left can lead us places. You know what I mean? Those are my friends, too.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I don't agree with that, but, you.

[Richard Karn]

Know, I just tried, you know, get along in the world, but what's going on, I want no part of. I don't understand it, and I will stand against it.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. I mean, and that's something that I think that the. The majority of what we. Hi, Zoe Saldana.

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Allow 15 days credits and imbalance due if you pay off earlier. Cancel ct mobile.com what used to be considered blue dog Democrats. That's the way they feel as well. They're like, wait a minute, we're not supposed to be. Well, we're not supposed to be happy that there are people waving foreign flags. We're not supposed to be happy that there are people that are actually fighting with the police. We're not supposed to be happy that there are cars burning, even if it is only a few blocks where this is happening. Which is something I hear the Democrats point out. It's like, it's such a small area. It's such a small area. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that's, that's this week and everyone knows that. Come Saturday though, there's going to be protests throughout the country and we'll see what it looks like after that because it'll be a totally different animal when it's not just that one little, you know, square.

[Richard Karn]

Square mile is what my dad told me. He got back from Nam and he was driving a bread truck, Wonder Bread. And he said, he said, you want to know what happens during a ride? I go, what's that, Dan? He says, the bread man don't show up.

[Charlie L. Duff]

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[Richard Karn]

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[Alex Stein]

Yeah. So we got this post here from Mario Novel breaking. Israel strikes Iran targets homes of top Iranian officials. Israel reportedly targeted the homes of Iran's top political and military officials during tonight's strike on the capital city of Tehran.

[Aaron Wright]

It makes sense. All those images we're seeing, I look like they're middle of the city.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, they're, they're not striking the, they're not. This isn't an attack on the nuclear infrastructure. This is attack, an attack on the people in charge of, you know, Iran's military and government. So that'll change the estimation and, and how Iran is going to respond, I imagine in the speed at which significantly. Yeah. You know, if, if Israel were to say this is just about the, the, the nuclear missile there or their nuclear technology, then that'd be one thing. This isn't going to be, this is going to be totally different kind of response from Iran.

[Richard Karn]

Seems so.

[Alex Stein]

You know, I, I don't see, I don't see Iran taking it pretty well when, when they were personally targeted.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah, but you know, they neutered Hezbollah, so. Well, yeah, maybe this is the, the Pager part two, but it's coming from the sky instead of in your pocket.

[Alex Stein]

So we're going to jump to. We were talking about the, the people going crazy in, in la. We're going to jump to this post Millennial story Antifa anarchist blog post claim of responsibility for torching NYPD vehicles in Brooklyn. The cars were just waiting there, practically begging for a new makeover. The post Romance Eve affiliate blog recently reads from Katie Davis Court, an antifa affiliated blog post. A claim of responsibility for an arson attack targeting eight New York Police Department vehicles parked near the 83rd Precinct in Brooklyn on Wednesday. The incident occurred around 1:30am and the anarchist called for additional attacks against the police and government in solidarity with the anti ICE riots in Los Angeles. So Antifa's attacking not just ice, but any police. This brings to mind all of the ACAB sentiment that you heard so much in 2020, how all cops are guilty of, of being, you know, oppressors and they need to get rid of ICE entirely. You know, they want to abolish ice. There's probably going to be more calls to abolish the police. Even though the results of the, the calls to ball to abolish the police were more crime and the most crime ridden areas and it wasn't any kind of positive result for the people of those areas. So these, these activists that are, are making these demands or making these calls, they're actually harming the people. They swear up and down they're trying to help.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, they're I, you give them too much credit by just merely calling them activists. I mean these people are seditionists, they are insurrectionists and they are in our midst. They are trained under a sort of cultural Marxism that justifies violence. That's why we see an increasing wave over the past decade of left wing violence. And you have blue state Governors, Blue State AGs, Soros funded DAs, Soros funded police chiefs who have given safe harbor to the seditionists and the insurrectionists. And so it becomes very difficult to, to do what's necessary to keep our American cities safe. So it's, it's, this is not surprising. I Mean, it's shocking, but it's not surprising to see this sort of thing.

[Richard Karn]

I like how they like black Lives Matter. Like, you know, 2/3 of them were white and they went home to the suburbs and couldn't sleep in mommy's basement. That's how I see it on the streets.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, look, these are, these are actual domestic terror organizations actually. And I think that if you read, you just have to open up like their own, like user manuals. And they are domestic terrorists and they should be treated like domestic terrorists. Now what the left wants to do and what they particularly did during the Biden administration is they project their own guilt onto the right by calling like traditional Catholics who are praying in front of, you know, abortion clinics. Oh, they're the seditionists and the insurrectionists and the extremists and the domestic terrorists. But man, we need a national mobilization of law enforcement to root these guys out. I know that as the next Attorney General of Texas and to learn more, you should go to aaronright.com, that the attorney General of Texas has tremendous power to sort of investigate the flow of where all this money and the funding is going to, to expose and then work with local law enforcement to go arrest and then try these criminals.

[Alex Stein]

So what do you think the chances of a legitimate like RICO case being put together surrounding these groups?

[Charlie L. Duff]

You know, the chances for any RICO case getting a successful conviction is always low. Right. I mean, it's just always. I mean, this is why you get them on tax fraud, right? Like, it's even in instances where you just have sort of, of totally flagrant, you know, mafiosa style crime networks, it's like, oh, well, the RICO case doesn't stick and so got you on the tax fraud. So look, I think that it, there are civil and criminal, civil and criminal theories of RICO and that it takes enterprising attorneys general who understand the nature of the threat and who want to pursue charges in creative but lawful ways to bring justice. And so anyway, just to circle back on my first answer to you, I think there's a there, there. I think that an investigation may give rise to either civil or criminal RICO charges against these sorts of networks. But they're always difficult to stick. And depending on the jurisdiction that you bring them in, you're either going to get a democratically appointed or in some jurisdictions a democratically elected judge. So a Democrat judge with a Democrat jury and a Democrat, you know, criminal defense attorney and a sympathetic Democrat media that will cover the cases. It, you know, the cases are stacked against Law and order.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

So it's tough.

[Mary Morgan]

But my thought is Antifa should have been designated a domestic terrorist organization years ago during Trump's first administration. I'm still puzzled as to why he didn't do that and hasn't done it yet still. And I'm looking at this, that they arrested three members of Antifa in Portland so far for stacking flammable debris on the local ice building and trying to set it on fire. And you look at the pictures of these people, they just look pathetic. I mean, they look like baristas. That's why people. No one regards them as the threats that they are.

[Charlie L. Duff]

And I also love. There's, like, viral clips coming out now of, like, leftists at gyms getting, like, liberal workouts and stuff.

[Alex Stein]

Have you guys seen. I've seen some of that where they're.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Like, they get into the boxing ring and they're just like. They're completely unathletic schlubs, like, trying to be fearsome because we're going to fight the fascist or whatever. And it's totally lame and cringy.

[Mary Morgan]

I mean, we should be, like, investigating these people on Twitter who have fan accounts for Luigi Mangione. Like, I just saw people circulating this letter that he wrote out for his.

[Alex Stein]

His.

[Mary Morgan]

What was it, his 27th birthday. He wrote down a list of all the things he's grateful for, and one of them was hashtag Latinas for Luigi or whatever. He knows that. That people idolize him online. And the people who are publicly posting about that, find them, arrest them. They. I mean, look, they are. And in la, in la, they should just be coming in there with unmarked hands and rounding these people up, literally, and possibly just throwing them out over the Mexican border.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, I mean, it's very tempting. I mean, you're. It's. It sounds like a good time. In fact, when I. When I resigned from the Justice Department on, I guess it was last night, all of my Marine friends were like, you know, dude, are you getting mobilized to go to la? And I was like, don't tempt me with a good time, because that would have been. I agree with you though, this. We just need the political will to enforce law and order and bring justice.

[Mary Morgan]

I feel like Trump so tragically mishandled the Summer of Love 1.0, and we're about to embark on Summer of Love 2.0. That. That's what we're looking at right now. And he held back because it was prior to the election and they didn't want to have bad press. That's my opinion you're talking about in.

[Charlie L. Duff]

In 2020 BLM terror uprising.

[Alex Stein]

You think that that would, do you think that is going to be replayed here this, this summer? Or do you think that he'll be.

[Mary Morgan]

More, more the violence.

[Alex Stein]

No, the, the reaction from the response.

[Mary Morgan]

I mean, obviously his attention is divided at the moment, but I mean, it's been not a great showing so far. I like that they were ramping up deportations, obviously, but the, I just, I don't see enough of a strong response to the criminal actions of protesters.

[Alex Stein]

So he's already, he, he activated the guard, he sent 2,000 Marines to, you know, one spot in one city. He's continued the ICE operations. And that's what the, the National Guard, the Marines haven't got there. I'm not sure if the Marines are there now, but as of last night, the Marines had, were still doing training for, for riot, basically riot training and, but the National Guard is there. The Guard unit was running security for ICE and for everybody so they could go and continue to do their jobs. I mean, that's night and day different than from what he did initially in, when the Summer of Love. He basically, he just had federal assets to protect the courthouses and the Federal House, like federal buildings. They, they didn't do any kind of support role for, or the military wasn't there, first of all. And there, there was no federal assets doing a support role for the police. I think that the, the response so far is significantly stronger than it's, it's better.

[Mary Morgan]

I'm just not going to be satisfied until I see every last one of these people rounded up and arrested. And so far there are three in Portland. From what I've seen.

[Alex Stein]

She's like, until I see him look like Vlad the Impaler.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I, I, so.

[Mary Morgan]

I would say, and until, until the deportation numbers are up to, let's say, 3,000 a day for the rest of this presidency, which is not going to happen.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, I mean, look, there's like 20 million plus illegal aliens that need to be deported.

[Mary Morgan]

Probably like 40 million.

[Charlie L. Duff]

So that's actually probably right. Like, just assume that whatever reported numbers exist is probably.

[Mary Morgan]

They've been saying 20 million for 20 years.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I know. Yeah. No, look, I share the sympathies. I will say, to President Trump's credit, I think the BLM terror uprisings in 2020 was, I don't know that I would pin the mild response necessarily to, like, election optics, because I actually think I would make the argument that, like, a Hard crackdown on that would have, I think, buoyed American spirits. I think that this was the first real mass national militant, ideologically leftist, anti American, like insurrection in a long time. And that the administration and law enforcement are like, trying to figure out, how do we do this? Like, is this going to go away in a week? Are they just letting off some steam for a week? And then it turns out it went on for months and then it's like, okay, now what do we do? Now we have blue, blue mayors, blue police departments, blue governors. Like, taking the knee and putting their BLM fist in the air and navigating. That is actually really tricky. I will say, though, to President Trump's now, again, Mary, though, to your point, like, I know what I, I think I know what I would have done back then and I would have put riot gear on everybody and gone online from one, you know, the east of the urban area to the west. Online doesn't work that way, though, man.

[Richard Karn]

I mean, when the President mobilizes the National Guard over and above the governor, normally he notifies the governor. This is not normal and you're not going to do it. In all cases, if the governor doesn't want to take care of the governor's own territory, that's what happened in 2020. You don't want to do it. Harry Balls, Tim Walls, whatever. You don't want to let it burn, then I guess we're gonna have to step in. So you do learn. Okay, Gavin Newsom, you're particularly troublesome. But. But you're not going to see every Marine division going into American City. Right. So.

[Charlie L. Duff]

But there's not a requirement. There's no legal requirement to get the governor's permission.

[Richard Karn]

There is none. No. That's why it's very exceptional. So now.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Sure.

[Richard Karn]

Do you really expect the President, United States to be managing 50 National Guards? No, I expect a governor to do it.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

But he's been such an abject failure in California. We've learned it now. We learned in 2020. We learned it from the fires. We're gonna make a statement here, I think, is what's going on.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, look, the blue, blue jurisdictions are failed regimes like California.

[Richard Karn]

It's crazy.

[Charlie L. Duff]

California. Look, California has a lot of good things going for it. When I think of California, actually, like, more heartbroken than I am disgusted because it's like a great American state. That's beautiful. I lived there in Southern California for three years when I was stationed at Pendleton. And so we love California. It's a great American state. But when Creatures of the left assume power. All they know how to do is to destroy or preside over brokenness and rottenness. And so California and some of these other blue cities and counties around the country, they're just failed regimes now. We can't allow it within American borders for there to just be like wholesale failure cities. And so it then gets escalated and.

[Richard Karn]

Then send me money to fix it because.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, well, I mean speaking of money, there's. There's something that I wanted to bring up. The post Millennial was reporting these are the groups suspected of funding radical LA anti ICE protests. Some left wing activist groups are suspected of funding the anti ICE protest turned riots over the weekend. FBI Director Cash Patel has said that the law enforcement agency will be investigating all the funding as well as the groups that survey supported and organized the efforts. The FBI is investigating any and all monetary connections responsible for these riots, Patel told Just the News earlier this week. Over the weekend, after some initial peaceful anti ICE protests, violence and riots erupted in downtown la, with way more cars being burned, looted, violence targeted at police and other criminality. According to the outlet, one of the groups linked to the protests that occurred leading up to the violent riots is the Party for Socialism and Liberation, psl.

[Charlie L. Duff]

It's also Pumpkin Spice Latte.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. Which is a Marxist group that has reported ties to the Chinese Communist Party. PSL has also been connected to many Gaza encampments on college campuses around the world. That's something that's worth, worth at least mentioning again. These riots, these, these demonstrations, whatever you want to call them, they're. They're not dependent on whatever issue they're talking about at that time.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Correct.

[Alex Stein]

You know, the issue is not the issue. The issue is the revolution. That's. They tie Gaza in with illegal immigration to the U.S. you mean these aren't.

[Richard Karn]

Guys who got upset one day in Compton and decided to put down a video game in the blunt and just go out there. You're telling me this is coordinated?

[Alex Stein]

Yes, sir.

[Richard Karn]

These guys could be getting paid.

[Alex Stein]

I am telling you that, sir.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah.

[Alex Stein]

Yes, sir. The. The Party for Socialism and Liberation. I think we were talking about this earlier today. We were, yeah. And I forget the guy's name that you'd mentioned. What was it, please?

[Richard Karn]

Roy Singham, an American billionaire, tech billionaire, now lives in China with his wife who heads founded Code Pink. You remember that one? So he's a devout Maoist, right?

[Alex Stein]

Yep.

[Richard Karn]

I don't know how a billionaire is a Maoist, but yet he is. And money flows as I understand it. And talk to a few people in D.C. it, it flows to the party of socialism and liberal. Liberal Pumpkin spice Latte liberation.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

And they go to the. The Coalition for the Humane Immigration Rights in LA Churla.

[Alex Stein]

Okay.

[Richard Karn]

Which is also being funded by the SIEU Union. Going to Churla. So these are union dues. Yeah, A rich guy living in China. Funding groups coming into that are paying.

[Alex Stein]

For people to riot in Los Angeles in the name of both Gaza and illegal immigration.

[Charlie L. Duff]

These are to both Yalls points. It's worth emphasizing. These are highly coordinated, highly sophisticated money laundering schemes where you have.

[Alex Stein]

That's why I mentioned rico.

[Charlie L. Duff]

You know, that's what I'm saying. Yes. No, I mean. And you're on to something. Right? My only point was maybe more of just like a legal nerd point, which is just like it's difficult to get those cards to stick. Right. But it's. This is completely unsurprising. Like, of course, there are dark money groups and Soros affiliated groups and there's 15 of them with 10 different names. Some of them have like, you know, they wear their ideology and their name. Other organizations are more innocuously named. So you wouldn't expect that, you know, the foundation for a Just America. I'm making that up. I don't know what that is. But a Foundation for justice is actually a front group for like militant Marxist leftism. Right.

[Richard Karn]

And then our eyes get wide open when you're finding like there's a trail to USAID and like you're finding it totally.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Right. And by the way, it's been going on for decades and conservatives have sort of just contented themselves to Mary's point, to just like arrest three criminals. Oh, we got three of them, boys. Mission accomplished. High fives all around. Meanwhile, the billionaire leftist Marxist insurrectionists are like, that's fine. Three. Three of our soldiers are down. I've got thousands. Yes, thousands. I've got ant colonies.

[Richard Karn]

The Smokeless war.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, no, that's exactly right. Now this is. And I want to. We already. I made this point, but again it's. I'll say it again. This is exactly why you need an attorney general in the state of Texas who understands the nature of.

[Richard Karn]

What's the website again?

[Charlie L. Duff]

The website is. Thank you very much for mentioning that. It's aaronwrightz.com Aaron R E I T Z.com if I could get in there.

[Richard Karn]

Enjoyer.com or nobsnewshour.com those are great.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yes, those are great dot coms as well. And so you gotta have an AG in Texas presiding over the largest Republican law firm in the country who understands the nature of the threat. Who reads headlines like what? We've looked at that and is unsurprised by it.

[Richard Karn]

But let me, let me throw this in while you're doing it because, you know, watch out Texas, because California's moving there. Right? Yeah, look, the party for socialism and liber liberation.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I'm his spice.

[Richard Karn]

Latte also had dealings in the Columbia campus. Yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

In New York and Columbia University.

[Richard Karn]

The guy that shot the two Jewish people in front of the embassy in D.C. yeah. PLA. So you, you could see this thing's kind of getting all over the country. We're not even aware of it.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Well, Phil made this point earlier. There is a. There is a sort of global communist revolutionary spirit.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

That transcends it doesn't matter whether you're a privileged white person going to Columbia or whether you're an impoverished terrorist sympathizer. It doesn't matter what it is. Or you're a BLM type. They have this shared narrative of, of a global revolution that in their mind of progress. They want to destroy, destroy, destroy. Tear down the institutions of the west, tear down American institutions so that out of those ashes they can create their vision of the future.

[Richard Karn]

When, when the BLM young people were coming by in Detroit in 2020. I know them, you know, they know me. And it's cool, it's friendly. And they were talking Marxist stuff. And I said, young man, Marxism is the greatest critique of capitalism there is. It's. It's. It's quite good. The problem is the solution always ends up with people in the trains to the Gulag. You don't know what you're advocating for. So I would submit to this table and the listeners, our system is an excellent one. The problem is it's been co opted by a corrupt culture and corrupt people that are just. There's no better system. I'm here to keep it. We just need better people. And do not with my. Because you will find out.

[Alex Stein]

That's something that most Americans generally agree 100%.

[Richard Karn]

Dude.

[Alex Stein]

Let's see. We've. We're getting some more information. We have a. A post from Vice Grad 24 reporting initial reports of Iran launching ballistic missiles towards Israel. We've also got a second tweet from them. Reports of explosions at the bat at the airport in Baghdad where US forces are stationed. It's possible that the Iranian proxy groups in Iraq launch Katib Ib Hezbollah are attacking US forces. I'm sure I butchered that name. There was One other thing. There we go. This is the. From the Secretary of State for immediate release. Tonight, Israel took unilateral action against Iran. We are not involved in strikes against Iran and our top priority is protecting American forces in the region. Israel advised us that they believe this action was necessary for its self defense. President Trump and the administration have taken all necessary steps to protect our forces and remain in close contact with our regional partners. Let me be clear. Iran should not target U. S. Interests or personnel, which would be great.

[Mary Morgan]

Or else what?

[Alex Stein]

Well, I mean, honestly, if they kill Americans, then Americans generally change their opinion about whether Americans should, you know, be involved in something. Because whether or not, you know, whether or not the United States is actually launching any, any kind of attacks on Iran, if Iran attacks, attacks the U.S. like they're.

[Richard Karn]

We already moved our people down. We did, we did kind of probably know a little something. We moved people out of the region.

[Alex Stein]

We definitely did. President Trump was talking, he's like, you know, he, he was. It was something along the lines of, well, you know, I'm not supposed to know and I'm not supposed to say, but yeah, you know it's gonna happen, you know.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah, got him out of Erbil, got him out of Baghdad.

[Aaron Wright]

Talking about the whole, like all the pizza, the pizza orders at the Pentagon yesterday too. Yeah, we were tracking that on the show and we weren't sure if it happened.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, the orders of pizza in D.C. y late at night.

[Alex Stein]

Not just in D.C. but there's, well, there's actually a dominoes in the Pentagon. Right. So when that one gets busy.

[Charlie L. Duff]

That one.

[Richard Karn]

Is that a thing?

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, there is a domino's pizza in. Inside the Pentagon and you guys can track it.

[Charlie L. Duff]

It's, it's like Pentagon pizza.

[Alex Stein]

That's just whatever the, the address is. I forget what the address is, but there's a domino's pizza and you can actually just like on Google or on, you know, Yelp or whatever it says it's, it's surprisingly busy or uncharacteristically busy. When it goes through the roof, you're like busy. They're literally there. Everyone's staying at the Pentagon and ordering pizza because the US Is doing something overseas.

[Richard Karn]

So there's low level deep state.

[Alex Stein]

It is not me that's doing.

[Richard Karn]

That's a hell. That's a great detective tool. I never knew. That's interesting.

[Mary Morgan]

So they're saying we are not involved in these strikes, but you're suspecting they did know about it beforehand?

[Alex Stein]

I think the. Well, yes. I don't think that the. I think the US And Israel generally share information when it is beneficial to both of them. So I don't think that the US And Israel share all intelligence, but I think that if. If it's beneficial for the US to know something, for. If it's beneficial to Israel for the US to know something, then you know, they're going to tell the US and it's. I think it's. They. It's been definitely beneficial for the United States to know that they were going to attack back. Considering we were talking about talking with the Iran on. On Sunday, I think it was. What is this? Is this in English or are we going to listen to.

[Aaron Wright]

We have an idea.

[Charlie L. Duff]

For years, the Iranian regime has called for the destruction of the state of Israel, planning and advancing concrete military plans to do so. Over the past few months, intelligence has shown that Iran is closer than ever to obtaining a nuclear weapon. This morning, the IDF began preemptive and precise strikes targeting the Iranian nuclear program in order to prevent the Iranian regime's ability to build a nuclear bomb in the immediate time frame. We have no choice. We are operating against an imminent and existential threat. We cannot allow the Iranian regime to obtain a nuclear weapon that would be a danger to Israel and the entire world. World. This operation is for our right to exist here, for our future and for our children's future. The state of Israel has the right and the obligation to operate in order to protect its people and will continue to do so. The IDF conducted significant preparations for this operation. We are well prepared, both in defense and offense, to defend ourselves. The IDF will continue to defend the state of Israel.

[Mary Morgan]

So are we to believe that these strikes were against the homes of Iranian officials or their nuclear program?

[Richard Karn]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Alex Stein]

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[Charlie L. Duff]

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[Charlie L. Duff]

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[Richard Karn]

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[Charlie L. Duff]

There's always a trade in. Not right now. @ T Mobile. I feel like I have to give you something in return for karma. That's okay. I don't really have much in my purse. Oh, let's see. Hand sanitizer. It's lavender. I'm good.

[Alex Stein]

Seriously?

[Charlie L. Duff]

Let me check this pocket. Oh, mints.

[Alex Stein]

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[Charlie L. Duff]

Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait Wait one sec.

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[Alex Stein]

I don't know that we can actually have a reliable sense of, of what the, what the targets were.

[Aaron Wright]

Yeah, we have no. Nothing confirmed yet.

[Richard Karn]

I'm gonna sit like before. I'm gonna let the night play out and hope, you know, to the media for a second. I, I need somebody in some place where it's reliable. And I just. It's just been missing for years now, you know.

[Aaron Wright]

Hey, man, we're trying.

[Richard Karn]

Oh, no, I mean building the new media. So if you had a budget, I'm sure you could find 30x marines that'll go over there and be reporters for you. You know what I mean?

[Mary Morgan]

I'm with Milo. I'm okay with it. I'm ready to be with Jesus. That's kind of where I'm at now.

[Alex Stein]

That's how Milo feels. Let's see, what else do we got here? If there's anything new or if we.

[Richard Karn]

I gotta see Ed Krassenstein. Let's see what Ed Krassenstein.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, I don't want to see.

[Richard Karn]

I. I got it, dude.

[Alex Stein]

Krassenstein. What do you like Twitter?

[Richard Karn]

Twitter forces. I'm. I don't follow the guy. Just, just. I want to see what smugness he's got for me tonight. Yeah, whose fault is.

[Mary Morgan]

He said no new wars under Trump, right? I mean, wow. That's how I feel.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I mean, technically, like he didn't pull the triggers. Well, the. Yeah, the US isn't involved in this yet. Hopefully not at all.

[Richard Karn]

But would love it. Of course he would love it.

[Alex Stein]

Love it. He'd love it.

[Richard Karn]

Give me grist and fodder.

[Alex Stein]

There was. So we're gonna go to this story here. I'm. Obviously, we're going to keep monitoring the, the situation in the Middle east, but we're gonna go to this, this story where Tim Pool actually was tweeting something that Donald Trump had said and it came as a bit of a surprise.

[Charlie L. Duff]

What made you Change your mind about targeting in California farmers and people in the hotel and leisure business?

[Richard Karn]

Well, we're not targeting. In fact, if you look today, I put out a statement today about farmers. Our farmers are being hurt badly by, you know, they have very good workers. They've worked for them for 20 years. They, they're not citizens, but they've turned out to be, you know, great. And we're going to have to do something about that. We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have, maybe not. And you know what's going to happen and what is happening? They get rid of some of the people because, you know, you go into a farm and you look and people don't. They've been there for 20, 25 years and they've worked great and the owner of the farm loves them and everything else. And then you're supposed to throw them out. And you know what happens? They end up hiring the people, the criminals that have come in, the murderers from prisons and everything else. So we're, we're going to have an order on that pretty soon. I think we can't do that to our farmers and leisure, to hotels. We're going to have to use a lot of common sense on that.

[Alex Stein]

What do you think? Talking about done. This is. All right. So this is. So that was at 4:00pm, right? Sorry, that was 4:00pm today. And then at 6:45, Donald Trump truthed. I don't have a link to it, actually. Maybe I can find a link to it.

[Mary Morgan]

Jack Posobic also added, the murderer of Molly Tibbets was a Mexican illegal who worked on a dairy farm in Iowa.

[Alex Stein]

Well, yeah, that, that is, that is true.

[Mary Morgan]

Just looking for honest work.

[Alex Stein]

Let's see. So here's the, here's the actual tweet from Donald Trump or the truth from Donald Trump. The follow up to that statement at the, at the, the press conference, the Biden Administration and Governor Gavin Newscom flooded America with 21 million illegal aliens, destroying schools, hospitals and communities and consuming untold billions of dollars in free welfare. All of them have to go home. Home. As do countless other illegals and criminals who will turn us into a bankrupt third world nation. America was invaded and occupied. I'm reversing the invasion. It's called reimmigration. Our courageous ICE officers who are daily being subject to doxing and murder threats are heroes. We will always have their back as they carry out this noble mission. America will be for Americans again. So that seems to be walking back the idea of keeping the, the farm workers that his friends that have own farms.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I think, I think people are, are straining to, to see something that's not here. This, what this articulation in this truth social post that we're reading right now is consistent with what President Trump has said from the very beginning and is consistent with the policies that he's enacted since he got sworn in on January 20th.

[Richard Karn]

Dude, you make sense.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I think that what, what he was sort of riffing with, with the Fox News reporter. I don't view that in any way as like a firm articulation of a policy position. I don't view it as like we're staking out a new thing. I think that he is channeling what I imagine are some concerns that have been articulated to him. But I don't see this as a policy pronouncement in any way, shape or form. I think that the, the truth social post that came two and a half hours afterwards was not so much a walking back, but just a rearticulation of what has this, what he said there was maybe a little bit different and threw some folks off. But the truth social post was consistent with what he's been doing from the beginning. So it just doesn't bother. I mean I, I don't love throw that back up.

[Mary Morgan]

Then why did he say that?

[Charlie L. Duff]

Say what? This.

[Mary Morgan]

What is common sense in his estimation from that claim?

[Charlie L. Duff]

You're talking about the use.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, we're going to need to use common sense about.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I think, I think he's, I think he is thinking.

[Mary Morgan]

His rhetoric is giving me whiplash.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah, I just, there's a, there's a real world here. If, if I might been out in it. This, what he says is all of you that just came in here this last wave, you're gone. There's no, you're not going to be amnesty. And if you came in the first wave and you're a punk and a creep and you make a big, you're gone. What he said today makes 100% sense to me. For instance, David Ketal Escarlito, bro, there's a dude I worked in the canneries, slaughterhouses, the grape orchards. There are people been here for 20 years working, can't go home, can't go to funerals. They got kids that are doctors. David is a good neighbor. He works. They're not paying enough for you to go work for $9 an hour in the California sun picking grapes gently so you don't bruise them. David's been doing it. In 2013, there was the immigration reform bill. They came up with a concept called a blue card. Not a green card, a blue card, which means you work ag, you don't get to vote. You have some access to government programs. Right. You can move internationally, go to the funeral. They're upstanding people in our country. They've been here forever, built lives. We're not running them out. And if you think we're running them out, we will go broke because working in a slaughterhouse, they're not paying anymore.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Anymore.

[Richard Karn]

They're not paying in the canneries anymore because that's all been broken. So in the short term, if you gathered everybody up, you're never going to eat. Not that Americans won't do the jobs because they used to do the jobs well.

[Charlie L. Duff]

They used to do the jobs for like higher livable wages.

[Richard Karn]

I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Give you illegal immigration. Illegal immigration on scale is what has caused these jobs that you would otherwise be able to like live off of of to now be like in 1985.

[Richard Karn]

When the Hormel unionized workers went on strike in, in Minnesota, they were making 10, 50 an hour, adjusted for inflation because we all now know what inflation is. That's $32 an hour.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

And they got benefits like a pension. Right. What do they pay in the, in the horn mill plants today?

[Charlie L. Duff]

Dirt.

[Richard Karn]

Probably dirt. 18, 16, 15. In fact, they're replacing the illegals with the new illegals.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Right.

[Richard Karn]

So they can cut the wage that's going on.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I just.

[Richard Karn]

Longer term problem.

[Charlie L. Duff]

My view of this, I mean, you know, Mary asked the question, like, what does he mean by common sense? I just don't read a lot into what he's saying in this clip. Genuinely. And maybe I'm being like completely naive. Typically I don't like to think that I'm naive, but I'm hearing the President riff casually with a reporter that he knows extremely well and is sort of just thinking out loud.

[Richard Karn]

And I hear politics and by the way, say I hear policy.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I don't. Because if you hear policy, then what if you were to conclude that what the President United States said in a 1 minute, 6 second clip, which is completely different from everything he's ever said, I don't know if on immigration, okay.

[Richard Karn]

He never said, everybody got to go.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Like, think that that's true.

[Richard Karn]

What I read in the second clip was all of you that came to second time under bogus circumstances, you're out. And if you came that first Time, because we got a lot of those.

[Charlie L. Duff]

What's the second time?

[Richard Karn]

The second time would be the Biden era. The first time would be when NAFTA got signed, the peso collapsed and everybody came in about 1998, 99, 2000, 2001, 2002. When you started hearing on the telephone. If you want English, press number one para espanol marque numero dos. About that time.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah. This is when the great Pat Buchanan was putting out great ads, actually.

[Richard Karn]

And don't forget, dude, when NAFTA got signed, then WTO got signed, normalization of trade with China got signed, Detroit got crushed, our jobs went overseas. And what came in for the rest of the jobs? Cheap labor. So you can't turn that around with a few immigration sweeps. You just can't. I think he's making sense to me.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I don't think so. Look, I think that there was a move toward progressive globalization that believed that global markets, borderless countries, an erosion of identity of state, nation and people is something that swept the west from the 80s to the 90s to the early 2000s called neoliberalism. Yeah, correct. And what President Trump represents is a rejection of that. And it's not just him, but it's now super majorities of American voters who reject that. We've seen the fruits of it, and it has been, in my opinion, terrible for America, both economically and culturally. And so I celebrate the worldview articulated in the truth Social post that came at 6:45 that I think represents the heart of President Trump's immigration agenda, for which I intend as the next Texas Attorney General. Website at where you can go to aaronrights.com to stand alongside him fighting to deport illegal aliens, Defend, build the border wall, protect our communities, end human and drug trafficking.

[Aaron Wright]

All right, that was a great pivot, man.

[Alex Stein]

So we're gonna jump to this story here from media height. Trump cancels work permits for over half a million migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela.

[Richard Karn]

That's how you do.

[Alex Stein]

That's a. That, to me, sounds like a good idea.

[Richard Karn]

That was a bogus plan by Biden.

[Alex Stein]

The department. The Department of Homeland Security revoked work and resident permits for hundreds of thousands of migrants on Thursday, according to a CNN report. A notice sent by email to Cuban, Haitian, Nicaraguan and Venezuelan nationals demands that migrants vacate the country immediately, stating that failure to do so may result in involuntary detention. This notice informs you that your parole is now terminated. A copy of the notice obtained by CNN reads, if you do not leave, you may be subject to enforcement Actions including, but not limited to detention and removal, without an opportunity to make personal arrangements and return to your country in an orderly manner. The termination of the Biden era parole program that granted legal working status to an estimated 530,000 migrants from these four countries has long been a goal of the Trump administration. President Donald Trump signed an executive order to end the program on his first day in office, one of many steps taken to achieve the president's campaign promise of mass deportation. I mean, look, 500,000 is a nice start, dude.

[Richard Karn]

There's, again, if we go back to what, you know, we were just going back and forth about.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Back and forth.

[Richard Karn]

This era, this Biden disaster. Disaster. Right. We agree here.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, we agree.

[Richard Karn]

Okay.

[Alex Stein]

Okay.

[Richard Karn]

So they get. They got to fly in, they got to make reservations, and part of that application was you get to work immediately, and then you get temporary protective status and all this.

[Alex Stein]

Y.

[Richard Karn]

100%. You're gone, done, revoked, get out. Half mill. Okay. Half mill is a huge move. That's tremendous.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

Going. Just going back again before this disaster, and we could. Could kind of put up with it, and we were getting our. Together and let's put up a wall and come in the right way. We still had David out there picking the ground. Okay, we can deal with you, dude. Right. But I. I see. I'm not trying to argue what you want or what's right or anything, but I see him actually being consistent and keeping his word because he didn't say, man, if you work on a grape farm and you've been here since 1999, you're out. Yeah, yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Look, I mean, to the extent, like, I don't think it's inconsistent to say that getting these 500,000 out is a top priority, whereas getting out, to use your phrase, like the great pickers who moved to Central California in 98 is not the priority. Now, it is my opinion that the grape picker who's still here breaking the law every single day should go, but we can have a prudential conversation about what's the number one priority right now. I think this is the right move. Look in totally. This is this. So this is interesting. When. When I was. When I was a deputy at the Texas Attorney General's office several years ago, during the Biden era, actually, this decision by the Biden administration is something that myself and Attorney General Paxton sued on. And there was this. This whole theme of cases where the Biden administration would issue blanket. What's called parole. So parole is a. Is a legal immigration concept that is supposed to Be used on a case by case basis. So you've got immigration authorities who in extraordinary circumstances can issue sort of what's called parole. It's like, look, this is outside the norm, but there's exigent circumstances. Yes, you can come over here, but you need to stay in the cell. You need to connect yourself with family. And so parole. Think of parole as something that has always historically been used as a one, like one by one, onesie here, twosie there, whatever. What Biden then did is he just blanket paroled tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands all at once, which eviscerated the legal concept of parole. What it was, was it just, it turned parole and amnesty, which are supposed to be very rare, one on one to one type things, into just amnesty. Right. And so I agree. What happened here? Yeah, so we actually sued.

[Richard Karn]

A lie.

[Charlie L. Duff]

It was, it's a total lie. And they knew exactly what they were doing.

[Richard Karn]

The dumb guy version, you know, dude should call me up. I'll give you some free advice on the camera. Here's the dumb guy version of parole. When you claim amnesty, you walk in this country. Amnesty, Right. We've signed international courts. Okay, okay. Amnesty. Asylum. You need asylum. Here's what happens to you. You get locked up. You, you are sitting in a cell, a nice cell, an American cell. Some of the best cells, great cells, terrific cells. I know builders. You're supposed to sit in a cell until you see the immigration judge usually took on average 35 days. You got parole. So you could leave to go get your heart fixed or your blood pressure dropped. You get to leave the cell and go to the hospital, and then you got to come back.

[Charlie L. Duff]

That's right.

[Richard Karn]

That's what parole was then. But Biden went like this. Come on in. And no jail cell for you. Parole, we'll get to you in years.

[Charlie L. Duff]

You can think of these concepts even in like a law enforcement. Right. Where like, you know, I'm on parole. Right.

[Richard Karn]

An individual, the old Epstein.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Right. Like a, a, a, an alleged defendant is out on parole or criminals out on parole under certain circumstances and terms. Those terms are very customized. They are personalized, they are individualized. They apply only to that person. It's made on a case by case basis.

[Richard Karn]

Yes.

[Charlie L. Duff]

In coordination with the judge, a parole officer, the police department, and the prosecution.

[Richard Karn]

And it's not like, it's not like parole, getting out of the state pen.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Richard Karn]

Right. It's not that. Right.

[Charlie L. Duff]

So this is, this is absolutely. So even though, like when, when I was at the Texas AG's office. We litigated stuff like this. Thank God President Trump wins in 2024. And all he's doing is just unraveling something that was manifestly illegal in the first place. But I think what's. And so this is, this is good. Like this is something to be happy about. This is good. We see the leftist pro illegal alien groups sort of weeping and gnashing their teeth over it. That's also sometimes an indication of whether something good is happening. But you look at the legal arguments that these groups made in court and it again reveals the true nature of, of the liberal left and what they believe about this country, what they believe about the rule of law. And gosh, to see the left, the well funded, sort of legal, nonprofit space work in coordination with democratically appointed judges in blue jurisdictions, with blue juries and blue communities. They are stopping at nothing. The litigation that these blue states and pro illegal alien groups waged against Trump for doing something manifestly within the discretion of the President United States is just yet another reflection of the left's willingness to throw all principle out the door and just do whatever it takes to just stop and thwart the will of the American people.

[Richard Karn]

So trust me as the. You're conservative, right?

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yes.

[Richard Karn]

And then. And you don't like the left, so trust, don't trust me. But consider me, me as a reasonable centrist.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Okay.

[Richard Karn]

That there's a, there's a pathway forward that we can have a normalized country where people are working and providing things for each other that we don't have to have this. But if we, if we could magically get them all out tomorrow, you wouldn't eat. You know, and not all immigrants are like picking grapes. Let's get that straight too do.

[Charlie L. Duff]

But it's nothing but grapes. Grapes everywhere.

[Richard Karn]

Like you have to. So much has been reconfigured in 30 years that it's. You just can't get it done in a minute. Yeah, I thought, I actually thought Trump was speaking reasonably. Maybe I'm wrong, but you don't have to hate me for it. Maybe I'm wrong. I might.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I don't hate you.

[Alex Stein]

No, I mean, I don't. I don't. I don't actually don't. Don't feel like there's any animosity for anyone sitting around the table. But I, I do think that that. Look, if there's a lot of people that think the more people are deported, the better because they kind of take it as grant, you know, take it for granted that you're not actually going to get rid of 21 million people. Right. Like, if you could get rid of. I think there's a lot of people out there that were like, look, we're not, if you made them an offer and said, look, we, we're not getting 21 million, right, but, but we'll get rid of, so we can get 6 million out. I think there's a lot of people that would feel like that's a victory. Personally, I would, I would like to, I don't think that there should be. I, to me, there's no upper limit as to how many are, how many people that are here illegally is enough to, to move along. I do understand the argument, oh, they've been here for 20 years and, and they've lived, set up a life and, etc. And I do think that, yeah, and I do think that that's a different, that's a different context than people that have been here for three, four, five years. But at the same time, I don't think that there's any reason to say, oh, well, you're here illegally, you've been here for a long time. So because you've been here for a long time, we're not going to do anything.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, right. There's no, that's not like a principled, like consistently enforceable standard like we've been here long time, exception to deportation. I don't, I can understand where we would make certain prudential considerations based upon feasibility, logistics, second and unintended, second and third order of effects. But these are like prudential considerations but on the principle by which I distinguish prudence from principle. On the principle discussion, every single one of the 21/million people who are here illegally are in fact here illegally and are therefore under our duly enacted immigration laws, subject to deportation.

[Richard Karn]

No argument.

[Charlie L. Duff]

And so, and so look, I, I think that your framing earlier was correct about like, well, you know, if we can't get all 21, let's just accept six. And yeah, six is better than zero. Right? But I don't, I don't accept the premise that we should immediately begin from a position of negotiating against ourselves or like erecting a. And I'm not saying you're suggesting it, right. But I acknowledge that weaker conservatives, Republicans with less willpower are willing to begin the public policy discussion by just conceding that, well, oh, 21 million is. We can't do that. That would be. Could you not, could you not only imagine the economic effects, but the optics would just be terrible. So, so therefore we have to content ourselves with Like a pittance.

[Richard Karn]

I don't see that. Because you're already seeing ICE at work. I mean, the first.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Well, that's not what I'm saying.

[Richard Karn]

I know, but here, ma' am, jumping in the first stroke was, all right, we're going to start deportation. We're going to get these guys. Now. You just saw all the Border Patrol app people gone. That's the next move. You got to start talking about how you're going to reach a path of normalization. Let me look into your background. You paid taxes, you broke the law, you've been duly employed. Okay. You know.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, look, I.

[Richard Karn]

There's no purity here, man. I'm tired of this one here, too. No one is illegal, okay? Yeah, but the shit people do is illegal.

[Alex Stein]

We'll get to that in just a minute.

[Charlie L. Duff]

You know, like, irrelegally.

[Richard Karn]

Let's get our immigration system together so this doesn't happen anymore. We can agree on that.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, of course. I mean, that's four.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I mean, no, we can't. Right? Like, so we can talk like, we can agree, but the issues that we're having right now or that we've been experiencing, they were directly in the being, you know, in the face of what Americans wanted. No, Americans wanted a total open border. No, Americans wanted to ship in, you know, 20 million illegal immigrants, especially when the reason to ship them in was to bolster the numbers in places like California where there have been a mass exodus of population and they were used. They're. They're looking to have these people in the census in the, in 2030. So that way that, that enhances Democrats, you know, chances of having electoral success. Electoral. The, the, the congressional districts. So that's all dependent on the census. And this is a, this is a two prong attack on the existing Americans voting power. You know, if you can dilute the American people's voting power by, by changing the makeup of states and getting more congressional seats. California is 55 or something like that. Congressional seats because there's, there's 36 million people in California or something like that. And if they can get in an additional five or or so million because of this, that could mean, you know, an additional two. I don't know how many it is. But the point is, Democrats have been actively doing this. This isn't a situation where it's through no fault of, of, of anyone, you know, at all. This is, this is something, this is an active plan that the Democrats have been instituting between this particular issue and also things like the refugee resettlement program and the, the NGOs that were financing people's trips. So this is, this is totally because of Democrats. So it's not 100.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Right.

[Richard Karn]

We can't even get the immigration system in order going forward because of this.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

Divide Right.

[Alex Stein]

To it.

[Charlie L. Duff]

To it.

[Richard Karn]

I totally agree with that. And, and then I, so I submit to you, if we can't even get the rules applied all the time, how are we going to get everybody out?

[Charlie L. Duff]

Well, okay, so we're mixing two separate conversations, and I think it's causing a lack of clarity. There is the practical. There is the practical conversation about what can or cannot be done. Then there is the, the sort of more principled or ideological conversation about the nature of illegal immigration and the degree to which you enforce borders and so on and so forth. And I'm trying to treat these things separately. On the one hand, I start from the principle that if 21 million aliens are here illegally, every single last one of them should be deported. That is just, just statutorily, legally correct. Then there's a separate conversation which is, well, where do we start from? What states? What are the methods? Is it feasible or desirable to get all 21 million? Those are separate policy level conversations. I'm just trying to detach.

[Richard Karn]

We're all, we're all there.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

Okay. So I would say that that's great. You start in the classroom. I start from the streets and read the books at night when I go to bed. So I'm talking about the reality.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, I. Okay, I just tell him the street. I have. I have litigated immigration cases for several years. I have worked with Senator Cruz on passing border security legislation. And I was nominated to the Justice Department in part to work on federal immigration law and have partnered with, partnered with Tom Homan and Cash Patel and Attorney General Bondi on working all these things.

[Richard Karn]

I covered the border for 10 years.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Okay.

[Richard Karn]

I worked in the world's biggest slaughterhouse. I worked in the world's biggest cannery. I'm just. We're trying to share here and get someplace.

[Charlie L. Duff]

So that's all I'm saying.

[Richard Karn]

And oh, by the way, Mary brought it up. Mary brought it up. Mary, in 2005, the Pew foundation said there were 11 million illegal immigrants living in America at the end of 2023, their latest study, after all the Biden stuff, there were 11 million illegal immigrants. So there was not one extra illegal immigrant in all of that time. And it's the conversations.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah. So I'll finish my point that I was making earlier, which was it there what we have seen since President Trump was inaugurated on January 20 was a concerted national, extremely well funded lawfare campaign to thwart even just the beginnings of deportation operations. Right. Like we've deported, I think at this rate, like 175,000 people, maybe we're at 200 by now, somewhere in that zone. Right. And we're just, we're just now getting started. And it has been a monumental task to even just begin scratching the surface. And so I'm arguing that 20 plus million illegal aliens ought to and do, in fact, under our United States laws, deserve to be deported. But to a point that was made earlier, I think you made this point, which was like, we can't even agree on the rules moving forward to deport them because look at how difficult it is just to get at.01%, indeed, of them out of here. So it's tough. It's tough. But it takes political will to see it through.

[Richard Karn]

And there are brains in the Trump administration because I know people working this, okay? They expected all that. All the theater of judge shopping and national injunctions. They were expecting it, as it was explained to me. Here comes the rollout now. Here what you're seeing now is the rollout.

[Alex Stein]

All right, well, we're going to go ahead and jump to super chats, so smash the like button. Share the show with your friends, with your family, with everyone you know. Head over to timcast.com to join our Discord. And head on over to rumble.com Become a member and you'll be allowed to watch the after hours uncensored portion of our show where we do the callins. You can call in and talk to our guests, talk to, talk to the panel. But we're going to start with Shane H. Wilder here says with the last plane crash, it's, it's, it's Trump's fault. Crowd are at it again. I did the research and the month to month numbers from the FAA are lower than they were in the middle of COVID 2020, which is, that's great. But I don't think. Are people blaming Trump for the plane crash in, in India?

[Aaron Wright]

Maybe not in India.

[Alex Stein]

Oh.

[Aaron Wright]

But everywhere.

[Alex Stein]

Everywhere else. All right, fair enough. You know that's gonna happen, so.

[Richard Karn]

Oh, my God.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Sounds good.

[Alex Stein]

Let's see. Weary traveler says, I had a whole message prepared for Tim about giving him yet another fell for it again award, but that Shabbos goy is too embarrassed to show his face now that his fellow Shabbos goy backtracked on everything. Amazing. I'm not sure. Exactly why weary traveler is so worked up. Weary traveler is. Is frequently in the PCC chat and far calmer usually. But apparently this evening, weary traveler is. Is worked up.

[Richard Karn]

What does shabas mean?

[Alex Stein]

I'm not sure. I think it means like, yeah, Shabas.

[Aaron Wright]

Go is like on this. On the Sabbath. Uh, you are like the goam or the goy. In this case, one of the go that can do work for someone who's a reverend Jew.

[Richard Karn]

My brother, his neighbor will come over and say, can you turn my light, son?

[Alex Stein]

Like that's a shab.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah, Frankie, you're a shab. Congratulations.

[Alex Stein]

Most of Stalin 69 says, can you guys see my rumble rants? We can. I'm not sure that. That we're excited about it, though. We'll see. I'm not. I'm not sure. You might be. You might. Tonight's a. Tonight's gonna be a rough night for the. The rants and the. And the super chats. Let's see. Jeremy B. Said if I rushed to the podium of the DHS secretary, they would have thrown me under the jail. Yeah, look, it's. It's standard procedure to. To protect government officials, especially cabinet officials. So they. They would definitely have thrown you on under the jail just like, you know, just like any other normal person. And to be honest with you, the senator was treated. Did, you know, pretty.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Pretty say, I think that was SOP response to somebody trying to barge into a. A press conference by a secretary.

[Alex Stein]

I mean, I don't feel like he. You don't. You don't feel like it was a big deal, do you?

[Richard Karn]

I think it was the right thing, man.

[Alex Stein]

The right thing to do.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Richard Karn]

But, you know, he should go to jail and then be let out on his own cognizance.

[Alex Stein]

It'd be. It'd be better to actually.

[Richard Karn]

You need no cash bail in Calina.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah.

[Alex Stein]

Let's see. Justin Spangler says I did executive protection in the Navy. We would have treated the situation the exact same. I have no idea who this cra. Crazy man screaming is. Begone thought. Which, I mean, yeah, like security is going to do security things. It doesn't matter that like, you know, you're a senator, especially seeing as like he is the junior senator from. From California. Right, right. So he's. He's not very well known, this ranking senator. I think he's the junior. I think he was the junior.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Who's the other senator? They're both very new. The other one. Is.

[Richard Karn]

He just get elected?

[Alex Stein]

He did. He just got Elected to the Senate.

[Richard Karn]

And Padilla got Barbara. No, not Barbara Boxer. Diane Feinstein. See?

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

I think he's the senior senator from California.

[Alex Stein]

That's hilarious.

[Richard Karn]

That is bizarre.

[Alex Stein]

Wow. Is he actually the senior.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, Padilla is the senior senator.

[Alex Stein]

Wow.

[Charlie L. Duff]

All right, so he succeeded Feinstein 23, and then Schiff got elected in 24. So they're both new. I mean, they're both really new.

[Alex Stein]

They're both very.

[Richard Karn]

Both very diplomatic. Would you not agree?

[Alex Stein]

Yes, Total. Let's see here. Trucking Pat says while we have an aspiring, we need a state to sue California for allowing illegals to count on consensus and to vote in elections.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Thank you.

[Alex Stein]

What was that said?

[Aaron Wright]

Thanks, Reagan.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I would. I would actually really like to see some kind of challenge, but I don't. I don't foresee that coming anytime soon. And to be honest with you, I'm not even sure that the Supreme Court would take it.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Well, it depends on who the next Texas Attorney General is. And if you want to learn more about whether I'd be able to do something like that, go to aaronwrights.com Perfect.

[Alex Stein]

Perfect. Plastic Cup Politics says. Mr. Laduff. I'll be attending the Kilmar Garcia arraignment protest tomorrow in Nashville. Any last minute words of advice for a 20 year military veteran covering the event? Protest?

[Richard Karn]

Yeah. My brother. Thank you for doing it. Go there. Show them how we Americans do it. Keep it peaceful, keep smart, and keep your chin up, man. And. And thanks. Thanks for taking the time.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Wait, so what is. He's going to.

[Alex Stein]

To. He's attending the arraignment of Kilmar Garcia tomorrow in Nashville.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Protest the arrangement or support the arraignment?

[Alex Stein]

No, no, I think he's just going to cover it. And then he expects to cover it.

[Charlie L. Duff]

As a journalist.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

As a reporter.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, he's a reporter.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Oh, okay.

[Richard Karn]

Oh, bro, just soak it up and write the truth.

[Alex Stein]

There you go.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Talk to everybody, which is that Kilmar Garcia.

[Richard Karn]

That's the thing about a reporter, though.

[Charlie L. Duff]

That's the truth.

[Richard Karn]

Right. When you hit the streets, you. You pick and choose. Yeah, because that person will talk to me. Or that one looks too rough. You know, like try to get a wide swath and try to get a seat in the courtroom.

[Alex Stein]

There you go. Good stuff. All right, let's see. Evolve 2022 says Q2 crew. Do you think it would be a good idea to have the National Guard and DHS join forces to help with deportations? We need more ICE agents and I think the National Guard could be trained to help with that. Personally, I don't think it's a great idea. I think that the DHS and ICE actually do have sufficient bodies to, you know, wrap people up. And I don't think that, that the National Guard is actually well trained for that particular mission. I do think the National Guard, it's fine for the National Guard to be security for these guys that are doing the job, but the actual policing of civilian areas in the United States, that's got to be the actual police.

[Charlie L. Duff]

So I have maybe a slightly different take on that. So one of the features of the big beautiful bill that the President is trying to get through Congress is an injection of new and big funding for immigration enforcement, ice, DHS, and so forth, because those entities have communicated to the Congress that they are not adequately staffed to take care of the mass deportation campaign that we need to experience for the next couple of years. And then the second thing is, I think you're right that the National Guard, or sort of the DoD space more generally, is not necessarily ideally equipped to handle immigration enforcement or law enforcement. That's not their purpose. However, as we've seen with the President's mobilization of the National Guard and then the activation of the Marines is that they can in fact provide very helpful, sort of. The right word is maybe not gap filling, but there are areas in the secondary level, whether it's logistics or support or area security or property protection, that the National Guard is really good at doing, which then frees ICE agents and other immigration enforcement officials to carry out their mission. And so just me personally, you know, there are, there are nuances here on how you do something like that, but I would like to see what that, that particular poster suggested.

[Richard Karn]

I toss this in for that person. This is what I hear. And this is again coming from the borders. Borders are ice, et cetera. The big beautiful bill is going to have about $170 billion for immigration enforcement, which includes massive detainment facilities probably in the Midwest, Kansas, something like that. Until those get built, Air national guard bases, etc. May be and are considering to be used as detention facilities. So you might have National Guard being detention guards. All remains beats up in the air now until that bill passes.

[Alex Stein]

Hmm. All right, Europa Chronicle says. Aaron, can you speak to Texas investigation into Act Blue's foreign money laundering into Democrat campaigns and NGOs?

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, I mean, look what, what. Act Blue is absolutely something that has been hijacked by foreign money influences. And then Act Blue for the, for the listeners that don't know, is sort of the vehicle by which Democratic candidates receive money. And it is illegal in the United States for either foreign individuals or foreign entities to give money to American elections. Right. This is. It's part of the category of election interference, frankly. It's foreign election interference. But because Act Blue is so flush with hundreds of millions of dollars of foreign cash, they are reluctant to open up the books and be transparent about what they're doing and where their money is coming from. And so what you've seen now in light of that is during the Biden era, of course, the Biden Justice Department did nothing to put a stop to that. So it became incumbent upon red state ags to open up investigations. Those investigations are ongoing. They are revealing highly disturbing trends which. And I don't know if there's any active litigation yet, but you have to build the facts and build the case before you bring it. And now the state AGs have a partner in Trump's Justice Department. And so to this poster's question. I can tell you it's ongoing. I can tell you that it is a huge problem. I can tell you that it is. The benefit of foreign money is something that goes almost uniformly, unilaterally, to the Democratic Party and to the left.

[Alex Stein]

Left.

[Charlie L. Duff]

And what you need, especially in an AG's office like Texas, which is the largest Republican and conservative law firm in the country, is you need an AG who understands the nature of that threat. And that, again, is why I'm running for Texas Attorney General to succeed Ken Paxton, to continue pressing in on that stuff.

[Richard Karn]

Chat.

[Aaron Wright]

By the way, we did cover Israel, Iran war. Just so you guys know, in an earlier part of the show, we don't have any more information about it. It's all coming out right now. It's very fluid situation. But we'll talk about it again when we know more. Thanks, y' all.

[Alex Stein]

Let's see.

[Aaron Wright]

You can read that one if you want. I'll respond to that.

[Alex Stein]

Which one?

[Aaron Wright]

The one that you saw, like, just above this, right here.

[Alex Stein]

Go ahead.

[Aaron Wright]

Oh, I thought. I thought.

[Alex Stein]

I'm not sure which one you're which.

[Aaron Wright]

Oh, it's okay. No worries. Keep going.

[Alex Stein]

Eric Shaver one. Yeah, Eric Shaver says Serge looks like he's been hanging out with the creeps loitering in front of the booths behind the truck Rock Stop. Are you a lot lizard, Serge?

[Aaron Wright]

No, I. I think that's what he's trying to call me as a lot lizard. Anyways, call your mom, man. She misses you.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yikes.

[Alex Stein]

Let's see here. Yinda. Yeah. The biden era invasion and the subsequent anti ice riots have set back overall legal migration back further than all the progress we made up to 20. 20. 20.

[Richard Karn]

Speak the truth.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. I mean, the American people generally had a positive opinion of my elite of legal immigration up until the Biden administration. And I think that the Biden administration has turned a significant, if not a majority of Americans against the idea of immigration at all for a while.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah. Total immigration moratorium. Yeah. Now, kind of the standard.

[Alex Stein]

There was a long time where you could. Where that if you presented that idea, people would. Would, you know, would gasp. You know, the idea that you would turn off immigration for any amount of time. And now you can, you know, there are people that are like, hey, 20 years, shut it down.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Shut it down.

[Richard Karn]

You know, like I say, there's things to think about, but I don't argue. You know what I mean? Like, I. I know why you're feeling that way.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I'm extremely sympathetic with that position.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Richard Karn]

And here we are sitting.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Here we are sitting.

[Alex Stein]

All right, let's see some more super chats here. The Glower Deluxe says Trump is allowing illegal workers to stay. He approved 100k plus H1B visas in 2026. While our tech sector is being gutted and Palantir is being used as the new Patriot Act. None of this is America First. I do agree with you. I do think that. I think that the Palantir issue is a different issue. Not that it's good or okay, but I think the Palantir issue is significantly different to the H1B visa issue, and it's also, you know, pretty different from the overall immigration question. But I do understand these. These three different issues that you bring up or things that you're talking about, they're all things that people would have said, no, Trump wouldn't do that. That's not the kind of thing that Trump wants. That's not the kind of thing that the MAGA coalition wants, and it's not the kind of thing that America first worst people want. And I think that's a. That's a great point. It's legitimate. Like, those kind of ideas are not the kind of things that you would talk to someone that consider themselves MAGA and say, they'd say, oh, yeah, I'm. I back these ideas. So let's see. Dalamar says 3,000 per day is nothing. The Biden horde is 20 million alone. We need 30,000 per day, seven days a week to put a dent in the total number of illegals.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I mean, look, Mary said, I Think Mary made that is Mary Dalamar, not 30,000 per day.

[Mary Morgan]

I said 3,000 per day would be great.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

And he said, get rid of a million a year.

[Alex Stein]

I, I mean, look, I, I, that would be, it would be nice.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, I doubt that will happen.

[Richard Karn]

So if it was, we averaged about 8,000 a day under Biden. Right.

[Alex Stein]

So we're coming in something like that.

[Richard Karn]

Right. So that was over four years. So that it would take 15 years.

[Alex Stein]

I mean, it'd take for it.

[Charlie L. Duff]

No, look, I think, I think that, that Dalomar has, it's at least got the numbers right. Yeah. If you've got 30,000 per day for 365 days, that's, that's just short of 11 million per year, which would get us on track. You know, I mean, there's, Dalamar is on to something.

[Mary Morgan]

I don't know if you're going to hit the benchmark of what most people would consider mass deportation. That would be about a million a year, which is well below obviously, the number that he provided in that super chat.

[Charlie L. Duff]

But still, I think, I think too.

[Mary Morgan]

That'S just, that's just the bare minimum. So I am the popular mandate.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I, and I, Yes, I, you are correct, I think, in identifying what the popular mandate was. I think you are also correct in identifying what, like kind of the feeling of what the threshold should be to meet that mandate. And I am, I am more on the side of Dallamar than, than you might think. But what I appreciate, I think that guys like Tom Homan and Stephen Miller and, and the President, Kristi Noem, et cetera, are taking is what they want. Is they want. I think, I don't know this for sure. I haven't had this conversation with these guys about this particular issue. But my sense is that what we are going to see for the first year of the Trump administration is a, is a proof of concept. And I think that they are starting with the worst of the worst. They are, are building popular consensus to the actual execution of deportation operations. Because I think you're right, the American people voted for mass deportations, but there's a difference. You have to sustain popular support for mass deportations. And I think a smart way to do that is to spend about a year getting rid of, like, the baddest hombres that are out there. But also we have to get our immigration enforcement, law enforcement and our logistical chains, like, accustomed to deporting people, which we haven't done. And so it takes, it takes a time to build. And so Yes, I too would like to see 30,000 deported per day for like year after year. Right. But, but I also understand that there are practical concerns and there are prudential concerns that don't excuse not deporting people. In other words, I will never concede that 20 million should be deported, but I'm okay with 6. That was that conversation we were having earlier. But I do respect that in the execution, in the prosecution of a deportation operation which is massively, logistically complicated, that it takes some time to warm up. And so I'm willing to sort of let the administration figure this thing out. It might take em, a year, 18 months or so. And then once we've got the rail lines built, we've got the beds and the housing facilities built, we've got ICE agents, ICE offices like repopulated with law enforcement officers, officers. We've got cooperating sheriff's departments and police departments. That's when we start ticking it up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up until we get to that 30,000 per.

[Richard Karn]

Week they had fully anticipated. 80, 20. Everybody wants the bad guys out, right? They know the polling. When it gets down to, oh geez, it's going to be, you know, the mate. Then you get around 51, 52. It's still a majority, right. But you look at what's going on now in LA and now it's not 51, now it's 59.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Right.

[Richard Karn]

You see what I mean? So this, this thing might backfire on, on the funded protesters where people have had enough. We, we all famously have now seen that legal immigrants are sick of this thing. It was. Yeah, right, exactly. Canadian in.

[Aaron Wright]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna act like you didn't just say that, but I'm from South Africa.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah.

[Alex Stein]

So. All right, let's see.

[Richard Karn]

I like Canadians. You know, they're okay. They're okay.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Oh, you should read that. I want to, I, I want to say something about that.

[Alex Stein]

The cloth Swiss, this one here, cloth swift John Deere makes wonderful great picking machines. I'm fatigued by the. Fatigued with the who's going to pick the cotton argument. Subscribe to Cecil says for your leftist copes and freak out notes.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I don't know, I, I have no comment on like the all caps part of that. But like this, this is one of the things where, you know, I, as a conservative am more comfortable with AI and emerging tech because I actually think in many instances that is the answer to valid concerns about who's gonna, who's going to harvest the almonds or the strawberries or whatever. If you look at, at, you know, the palantirs of the world, they are developing technologies to basically just have hundreds, thousands of acres farmed by AI smart tech and these machines and so there's no more, there's no need. I think tens of millions. I like to see that.

[Richard Karn]

I'm glad you pulled up because that was directed at me. So I'll answer you, dude. Yeah, the cotton gin did that. You know, necessity is the mother of invention. I get all that. I'm not an idiot. What I'm saying is we go through the list who's remember that, you know who was essential during COVID The guy working at the dog food store. You know what I mean? Like my dog gonna starve. I didn't. I got myself toilet paper and I forgot the dog food. He was a. That's all we're doing is just figuring it out. I'm not like, you know, any almonds and you know, we got canning machines now. You know, we got nets that catch fish. It's not. I understand that. I'm not. Would he call me a liberal? Whatever. I don't know my talking points. I don't know.

[Alex Stein]

I don't know.

[Mary Morgan]

It's just criticizing the argument.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah, but there's some sensible things to be done is what, is what the president was bringing up today. That's all.

[Alex Stein]

All right. Okay, let's see. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Says I support slave labor.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh, that's a hot take.

[Alex Stein]

That's a hot take there. Raymond G. Stanley. He spent money to say that and then I just tossed him right under the bus. Let's see. Raymond G. Stanley again for $5 says thank you Charlie for speaking sense to the Trump farmers comment. I said this on the show. Folks won't pick strawberries but 20 year illegals will.

[Richard Karn]

So if you pay him cheap.

[Alex Stein]

If you pay him cheap, you pay him cheap.

[Richard Karn]

I get the argument in that.

[Charlie L. Duff]

So, so, so will an AI generated farm machine. So no need for the 20 year old illegal alien.

[Richard Karn]

I'd rather Americans get paid part of the profit to pick them. That's what I prefer.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I mean that makes what I prefer. That makes sense. But I think to, to think that the, that automation is going to stop. I don't, I don't think that's going to be a future. I think, I think that, that we got, we got a good point about the.

[Richard Karn]

The robot lost 40 of our jobs to globalization and 60 to robots.

[Alex Stein]

Yep. Dan Stenger says how about started start firing? Finding business heavy for hiring Illegal immigrants. If they can't make money, I'm guessing they won't stay in self support. Look, that's something that I think goes to a total, totalizing strategy for reducing not just illegal immigrants, but like, well, not just criminal immigrants, but all illegal immigrants. And that's make it as difficult for the people that are hiring the illegal immigrants and stuff to make it as difficult for them as possible. Which is one of the reasons that are one of the most objectionable things to what Donald Trump said earlier when he was talking about, you know, the farmers. And they're, you know, they're going to get hurt so bad if we send away the, the, the illegal immigrants. And it's like, look, you shouldn't just be saying, oh, we don't want to see these, these farmers get hurt. You should be saying, look, we want to fine these farmers for hiring illegals at all. Like the, the way to make sure that you don't have illegal immigrants in your country is to make it difficult for illegal immigrants to stay in your country. And you have to make it difficult for them to find work. And the best way to make it difficult for them to find work is to actually punish people that would hire illegal immigrants.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah. There has been a reluctance to do this over the past like 40 years. Yeah, right. It's like it. And a lot of times from the sort of like corporatist. Right. Which has always been very reluctant to like go after corporations, but really it's the mega corporations that are. That have the demand for the illegal labor and is the primary driving force to bringing in hundreds of millions of illegals.

[Richard Karn]

And then my neighbor, of course, there was a time there when I was like, wow, black guys and white guys are mowing lawns again. Whoa, we're roofing again.

[Alex Stein]

What happened?

[Richard Karn]

And then we got the next wave in the route again. Because even the local guide, you know, the dude who owns a company and looking to profit maximizes profit.

[Alex Stein]

Yep.

[Richard Karn]

He didn't want to. I know how to roof. But you're only paying 15, dude.

[Alex Stein]

All right, let's see what do we got here? Some more super chats.

[Richard Karn]

May I approach, your honor? Did you ever see the clip of Caesar Child?

[Alex Stein]

Okay, then, let's see the SIG P220 said inside source is reporting Delaney Hall, New Jersey, the detention center holding ICE detainees that Lamonica McIver assaulted agents has been taken over by the prison prisoners. Really?

[Richard Karn]

What's that?

[Alex Stein]

Inside source is reporting that Delaney hall in New Jersey. Let's see what ICE attendees. Yeah, Says the Delaney hall in New Jersey is the detention center holding ice detainees has been taken over by the prisoners. Let's see inside.

[Aaron Wright]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I haven't seen anything about that yet.

[Alex Stein]

But yeah, neither have I.

[Aaron Wright]

But if that's happening, that's kind of crazy.

[Mary Morgan]

Lol. World War III is starting and you're talking about illegal. Yeah, it's still a problem.

[Alex Stein]

Look man, the fact of the matter is the stuff that's going on in Iran right now isn't as prescient of a problem for Americans as illegal immigration.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Yeah, it's, there's no question that illegal immigration is a uniquely American problem right now. It remains to be seen whether the conflict between Israel and Iran is like an existential American threat threat. But right now today at this hour, the existential threat that America is facing is the invasion of tens of millions of illegal aliens.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, that's, that's my sense as well.

[Richard Karn]

Yeah, I'm worried about Saturday.

[Alex Stein]

It's the protests. I think that, that the protests are going to go off and I think that most, most of the police forces in, in the US will be able to handle whatever's going on in their, in their respective jurisdictions. Let's see LARP laugh love. How do you live here for 20 years without getting papers hiding your past from your home country? Federal minimum wage is 725. Your dirt poor wage and send them all home by David.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Okay, tell me how you, the way that you live in this country for 20 years without ever having to show papers is when you have a completely failed state that does not uphold any semblance of the rule of law.

[Alex Stein]

Well, yeah, yeah.

[Charlie L. Duff]

I mean that's maybe like a trite answer again. That's the answer again.

[Alex Stein]

This isn't, this isn't about trite.

[Richard Karn]

That's a tight answer.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Well, there you go.

[Alex Stein]

The, this, this isn't about, you know, not, you know, not enforcing the law. This is about actively subverting the will of the American people. Our government has been actively working against the American people or at least the Democrats have. And, and you know, you could argue the Republicans have, I'm sure because the Republicans have, have been a failure at stopping it. But the, the fact that there have been all these efforts by NGOs using, you know, federal dollars that the American people are going to have to, you know, account for, whether it be through inflation or through raising taxes, the American people are going to have to deal with this. And it's been the government, the Democrats using the American people's money to affect the, the ability of existing Americans votes to matter so totally.

[Charlie L. Duff]

Right.

[Alex Stein]

Let's see, there was something that you just had. Let's see. Mr. Sombra, this is all that remains. Oh, keep up the good work. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Let's see. Four Bar High says all this replacement migration is part of a broader anti colonialist genocide of Western civilization. Western Europe is the bellwether. We don't have to live this way and the American people deserve better. I, you know, I, I crushed it.

[Charlie L. Duff]

What, what a comment. I mean, Four bar High. Yeah, absolutely spot on with that comment.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, that, that, that really does wrap all of the issues with, with the, with immigration up pretty well, pretty succinctly. But right now we're gonna have you guys head on over to rumble.com and sign up, become a member because we're gonna go to that after show, the uncensored Rumble exclusive show. We'll head over there in just a few minutes. But let's see. Hold on a second.

[Richard Karn]

Do I have time for a smoke?

[Alex Stein]

Not right now. No.

[Richard Karn]

I mean after this before the rumble thing.

[Alex Stein]

I mean. Yeah, you can. Yeah. Big boy rules, remember? See, where am I looking for the. One second here. So. Yeah. So Charlie, want to go ahead and shout anything out?

[Richard Karn]

Thanks for having me.

[Alex Stein]

Okay. Where can people find you?

[Richard Karn]

Oh, Charlie. The Duff ON X the enjoyer.com or no News Hour, which is the top 200 podcasts in America.

[Alex Stein]

Cool. Aaron, where can people find you?

[Charlie L. Duff]

Well, my name is Aaron Wrights. I'm running for Texas Attorney General. Folks can find me at aaron writes.comaa a R-O-N-R-E-I-T z.com. you can also follow me on X. My handle is at Aaron Underscore writes.

[Richard Karn]

R E I T Z.

[Charlie L. Duff]

That's right. R E I T Z.

[Alex Stein]

Here we go.

[Mary Morgan]

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[Alex Stein]

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[Charlie L. Duff]

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[Richard Karn]

Today.