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Democrats COLLUDED With Epstein To HURT Trump, Emails BACKFIRE w/ Andy Schoonover
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A
On Friday, the Washington Post dropped a bombshell report alleging that House Democrats were texting with Jeffrey Epstein during hearings in 2019. Now, this is a big deal and we're going to get into that. Actually, Tim Pool is going to be talking about that on Jesse Waters show today. So when Tim goes on live with Jesse, we're going to jump to that. But right now we're going to go ahead and get right to the introduction. So tonight joining us, we've got Andy Schooner.
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B
Hey, how are you?
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C
Thanks for having me. Can you introduce yourself, Andy Schoonover, CEO of Crowd Health. We're trying to take down health insurance because health insurance sucks.
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A
It's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty rough. Well, thank you for joining us.
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C
Thanks for having me.
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D
Tate is here.
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E
What is going on, everyone? This is tape Brown. You're holding it down. I agree, healthcare does suck. But I'm glad you're here. What's going on, Shane?
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B
What's up? Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live. I will be going live tonight on Rumble and YouTube at Inverted World Live. We're going to talk about the tech vampire overlords with the, the Twitter user 7C's who's mapped out a pretty wild story. So we'll see you there.
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A
Awesome. So we're going to get right into it. So from the New York Post. House Democrats exchanged texts with Epstein on how to hurt Trump during 2019 congressional hearings. Documents allege Jeffrey Epstein was feeding questions to Rep. Stacy Plaskett during a 2019 congressional hearing and giving her real time help on how to damage President Trump's reputation, newly released documents show. The text, first reported by the Washington Post show the convicted pedophile pontificating with plasket during a February 27, 2019 House Oversight Committee hearing in which the then former president's ex attorney Michael Cohen testified about Trump's alleged payments to mistress to silence stories before the 2016 election. Trump has vehemently denied all allegations. In the text, Epstein appeared to be watching on television while Cohen brought up former Trump executive assistant Rhonda Graff in his testimony.
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D
Let's see.
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A
Cohen brought up Rona, Keeper of secrets, Epstein texted misspelling grass, first name Rona responded Plasket, a non voting delegate representing the US Virgin Islands. Quick, I'm up next. Is that an acronym? She added, suggesting she'd grow Cohen soon. That's his assistant, Epstein replied. So if this is, I mean, obviously there's, there's, there's evidence to show this, you know, I'm wondering, like, do you guys feel like this is actually going to be a big issue that's going to move the needle on, on whole Epstein situation, or do you think that this is just going to be some kind of flash in the pan?
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E
It's red meat. It's red meat for the Democrats. I mean, it's like this idea that there's some smoking gun with the Epstein thing still out there and now's the time for it to drop. It's like, what do we do? Also Plaskett, like non voting member from the version is like, why are these people allowed in? Like she's just hanging out. Like that's her job is just to hang out with congressmen all day. No, it's totally ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, if they had dirt on Trump on the Epstein thing, the fact that they would like wait till what, a month or a few weeks after an election to drop it, I mean, it's completely ridicul.
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A
Shane, what does this do to the, to the allegations that Trump and Epstein were actually friends and that Trump was doing terrible things on the island? Because that's the narrative that the Democrats have been trying to spin ever since Donald Trump took office again for a second term. They didn't pay attention at all to any of the Epstein allegations for the entire four years that President Biden was in office. But as soon as Trump gets back into office, the Democrats seem to think that this is one of the most important things going is what's your take on it?
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B
I think whatever you think is the deal with Epstein now, nothing's going to change it, no matter what people see. Even if things come out that look real, I mean, we're in post reality. So everything can be fabricated if you want it to be fabricated or it really is fabricated. So it really doesn't move the needle on anyone, unfortunately, one way or the other. I think there's a lot of other things with the Epstein story that people should be talking about. I still want a lot of accountability for people like Bill Barr, his situation with that. You know, still want to know why he got a sweetheart deal, why Epstein got a sweetheart deal in prison. All these things. His intelligent asset with Israel and with the CIA. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's out there right now you can look up with a, you know, him being an asset, not people think he's Mossad. I don't, I really don't think he was. I think Mossad probably went to him for a lot of help and he was basically like a freelancer working with lots of different people around the world. And there's emails that say that. But again, you can look at those emails and say, I don't believe those emails. But we do know through photographs that the former Prime Minister Ehud Barak of Israel was hanging out there and he had an asset living with him in Manhattan. And the emails, if you want to believe them, show them going to Epstein for help for things like overthrowing Assad. There's also things of them of him helping Israel looking into, like what to do with Mongolia. So there's a lot of other stuff here that I think we should be talking about. Why was he so deeply entrenched with intelligence agencies, agencies around the world, not just here, not just Israel. Also in Europe. Same thing as his father in law or Ghislaine Maxwell's father was doing, you know, before he passed away, oddly. So those are the things I really want to talk about that no one seems to be talking about enough. And the government doesn't seem too interested in, probably because they know how deeply entrenched he was.
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E
Crazy. Epstein did all that for seven grand?
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B
Yeah, well, each time, yeah, it's a lot of 7 grams each individual time.
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A
Now that is a great point. Do you guys think that the reason why people are paying attention to Donald Trump and Epstein or the, the goings on that were alleged to have happened at the island between powerful people, do you think they're paying attention to that? Because that's the most salacious stuff and the substantive stuff like his involvement? You know, I didn't have I. Until you mentioned it, I didn't know that anyone had ever inquired about Mongolia with Epstein. Do you think that the reason is because it's salacious and it gets eyes, or do you think that it's because. Or do you think that that's why they, they, they don't go after the other topics because they just don't have the same kind of.
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B
Probably both. I think it depends on who you are. I think there's people who want to uncover and get accountability for minors that were abused by this evil network that seems to be entrenched all around the world. And we know that. I mean there's a ton of people and not just Epstein. This is the thing that happens. You know, I went around with, in Ohio with Alex Rosen, catching just these disgusting pedophiles who are in your neighborhoods. But they exist in every level, in every institution, unfortunately. Churches, schools, you name it.
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A
Well, I mean, it's my sense that the, the pedophiles go to where the access is. Right. So, so the reason that you hear about the church is because people trust priests. Priests. People trust children with priests, you know, because, oh, a priest wouldn't do this. Or you hear about school, schools because people have to send their kids to school. And so, you know, oh, you know, schools are supposed to be safe places. There was, there's also a lot of people that talk about, you know, summer camps and, and camp counselors and stuff. And, and that's because predators will go to where the access is as opposed to. There's something unique about whether it be churches or schools or, or camps. It's not that these places attract. It's not that these places produce predators. It's that predators go to these places.
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B
Because that's where access and, and that's maybe why he was involved in all this, what I believe was blackmail situations, you know, and then even that's a narrative that's been being picked apart lately. But okay, if you want to go down the route of hurting children, these weird, like transhumanist things that Epstein was doing, like why didn't we uncover more of Zorro Ranch? He had a whole situation out in, where was Arizona, New Mexico? Why wasn't that rated? You know, what was going on in the Manhattan apartment? You know, there's so many different stories about that that at first it was reported that there was video that was taken and then it was all sudden there wasn't video. Cassius said there wasn't and he, or he went through it. None of it was bad. But then we hear other things. So it's just constant back and forth. And when it comes to the political things that he was doing that really involve what we can call the deep state, I think it's a harder thing for people to digest. Even though we're talking about like this rampant pedophilia network, we've been talking about that part of the story for like 10 years now. When it comes to what he was doing with like Assad possibly and Israel or hanging out with Barack and all his, you know, he obviously had friends within this government and in Harvard and weird science things, you know, Harvey Weinstein, one of the. Eric Weinstein at Harvard talking about. Or mit, you know, why do you have access to a lot of weird science situations? Learning about these weird like I think anti gravity stuff. But it's a, it's a much harder thing, I think, to understand that a lot of different intelligence agencies are going to a person and or network to try to pull the strings around the World, you know, because it sounds crazy to some people but we unfortunately, in our own history in America, we have a long history of that very thing. Whether it's Operation Northwoods Gladio, NATO possibly being behind the scenes of the years of lead, which was a lot of political false flag violence in Italy. This is just a long history. We still don't really know who killed jfk. Yeah, you know, we, we don't. You know, we. There's a guy in Sirhan Sirhan they say killed RFK, but RFK Jr doesn't even believe Sirhan Sirhan was that assassin. So we had this long history of these weird things that are happening that have happened and I think a lot of people, it's, it's hard for them to digest that that is the reality of. The reality is unfortunate that our government is, has been weaponized against us and they do use these bad actors and.
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E
Beyond, I think like the Epstein stuff, people are just blackpooled on it because like the only time it ever actually makes headlines is when one party is using it to weaponize against the other. Like American politics in 2025 is just each party posting a picture with the other party's leader with Epstein goes back and forth, just like different leaders. Like people are just black belt on it. People are fatigued from the news cycle. I mean this has been in the zeitgeist now for like eight.
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A
People.
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E
Like this is, I mean it's the same thing happened to the shutdown. It's like such a magnitude, but I don't know, there's so much churn in the news cycle, there's so much insanity happening that people just get fatigued really quickly and they lose interest. I mean that's just kind of the unfortunate reality. Like you're saying with the Epstein stuff. I mean, just a bit of probing. We could really uncover some pretty dramatic things that would upturn our society. But yeah, like the only time it ever makes the headlines is just when a party's using it primarily these days, using it against Trump.
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B
I mean like again, totally. Why don't we know about Epstein's final phone call he made in prison to. He said he was making it to his mother.
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D
Right.
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B
And he. We found out he was actually calling his girlfriend at the time. Like, what's up with that? And he lied about that. Why did the officer let that happen unsupervised? A lot of weird things. You know, obviously we all know about the cameras and all that.
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A
If it's, if it was a phone call from the prison, don't they record all those.
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B
I don't know why we haven't, why, why don't we have any access to that or any information about it? It's, it's a very. On the night he didn't died. I'm putting that in quotes for anyone who's listening, because I think he's alive.
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E
Album through a, like, payphone.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. The good old days.
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A
Andy, do you, do you have a, a particular feeling one way or the other as to whether or not this is this particular issue about the, the texting? Do you think that it's just more, more red meat for the base, like, like Tate was saying, or do you think that there's, there's something that's going to actually come of it?
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C
I feel like it's diversion. It's a diversion from what people really want, which is. Show me the damn list. Let's put the list out there. Why are we not seeing the list? It's very strange to me that Trump just, what, a week ago was like, no list, no big deal. And now he's like, show the list. It's a Democrat thing. Marjorie Taylor Greene, I think is now being primaried with Trump support because of her moaning and groaning about the list on X. And so it's not just party against other party, it's party within party now. And so that's a very strange thing has happened over the last week that I don't think really anybody has a good understanding of. Why did, why did Trump flip all of a sudden and release the list? I think because he's very, very strange.
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B
He likes to market test and he sees that there's an upswell of being like, all right, we actually do want to list. I actually don't.
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C
Reading the base a little bit.
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A
I think so.
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B
I hope so. I don't believe the list. I don't believe there is a list anymore. Like, I think there's nothing they could release that's going to change anyone's mind at that point.
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D
There was.
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A
What was it a couple months ago? They had some of the alleged fixed victims saying that, oh, well, we're going to make our own list. That made news for a couple days.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And nothing's come of that either. And it makes me wonder, is this just a situation where people use this, the, the, the threat of a list? Is it just a means to get attention for themselves or to, to leverage people? Because no one really knows what is on the list, if the list exists, because maybe the list doesn't actually Like a secretive list doesn't actually exist.
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E
Yeah, there's like 30 lists now. Now people are like feeling FOMO if they're not on the list. They're like, what am I doing wrong?
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C
Elon was on the list for a while, but it was a string of texts or something that was like, is Elon still coming?
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B
Or something like that. David Blaine was on the list like that. He was hanging out with Epstein at one point.
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E
If you're a somebody, you're on that list.
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F
Yeah.
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E
If you have aura, you're on the list.
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A
I think, I personally, I think that there's a lot of people that don't want to see any kind of list come out because their name is on it. And that doesn't indicate wrongdoing. That just indicates that they knew Jeffrey Epstein on some level. Like if Jeffrey Epps and Jeffrey Epstein was a notorious networker. Right. Like he was doing everything he could to be in some way ingratiated with any person that was powerful. I mean, Stephen Hawking obviously was on the list. And science.
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C
Yeah.
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E
If we just got Epstein a LinkedIn account, we could have saved all this trouble. He could have just taken out his.
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A
Networking through there, just, just advertises his. His account. But I, that's, I mean, to the point though, the, I think that the, the fact that lists exist or if there are lists that exist, I think that a lot of people are just like, I don't want that to come out because I don't want my name associated with, with Epstein.
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B
I don't care.
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A
Well, fair enough. And I'm not talking about anyone around this, around this table, because I don't imagine that there's anybody here that actually knew Jeffrey Epstein started pounce point. The point that I'm making my time, guys. The point that I'm making is, you know, if. If you're, if you've had any kind of dealing with Epstein and a list comes out and your name's on it, the people, like, to your point earlier, the people that he has done that, you know they have done something wrong, they're going to believe that you also did something wrong. Right. If you're of the opinion that Jeffrey Epstein and anyone Jeffrey Epstein knew was party to illicit behavior, well, then that's a strong incentive to not want any kind of list to come out.
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E
Yeah. You know, Tim's made it like a variation of this point of like, with both parties, of both candidates, their war chests, there's probably lots of funding that's coming from people that even if they didn't do anything illegal, they would be on that list, be embarrassing, etc. Etc. So it's like, look, if you're trying to be pragmatic, if you are trying to operate an overhaul of the political system, you don't want to have to deal with this on the side. Because, like, the thing about Epstein is it's a very online thing. And my evidence for this is that Fox News rarely covers it. And Fox News is where the majority of the base is sort of getting their information from. And this is why there was that disconnect earlier in the year when Bondi and Trump came out. And they're like, why do people even care about this? Because in their world, people don't really care about it. It's like, it is an online thing. I'm not downplaying the importance. Like, I. Obviously, this is a very scandalous, scandalous thing. But, yeah, that's just the reality is that Trump and Bondi, they just saw people, like, spurging nonstop about it, and they were just like, oh, why do. Like, what's the deal?
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A
So Tim is on with Jesse Watters, and we're gonna cut to that right now so we can take a listen.
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D
To this for a lot of national security stuff. But what do you think's gonna happen next? It's hard to say. You know, it's. Biden could have released it. Trump could have released it. Trump said it was a hoax. But I'm glad to see that Trump is back on message with this. We should see these released. And considering the emails that got leaked in the past couple of weeks, that turned out to be a nothing burger. Well, actually, it turned out to backfire on these Democrats. We're now learning that it was Virginia Giuffre who was listed in these emails, who had already said Trump had done nothing wrong. We're learning that a journalist was colluding with Epstein for positive pr. It sounds like, you know, let's be honest, I don't think we're gonna get a lot out of these. I think if there were documents, they're probably long gone. I think there are powerful interests that are probably concerned they'll be made to look bad. But I do think it's a big distraction and Democrats are getting caught up in something. Some have suggested Trump is doing this on purpose. Rope a dope, tell him to come in. No, the Epstein thing's a hoax. They tackle this issue, and then Trump focuses on tariffs, he focuses on immigration. The American people at the kitchen table aren't talking about Epstein. They're talking about grocery prices. And as you already pointed out, they're down. I mean, they're still high, but they're coming down. And I think that's what's gonna win a midterm election. Yeah, and he's now real focused on it, especially after the last elections in these blue states. Kind of a wake up call. And that's a good thing. The Democrats on the other side, I don't know what they're talking about. Gavin Newsom's in other countries talking about the weather. Kamala's talking to transgender people. I mean, what is going on over there? This is. It's sad for me because in 2020, I actually was a very big supporter of the Democratic Party. I donated the maximum to Tulsi Gabbard. She's now a Republican alongside Trump. I hear Trump talking about tariffs. I understand this. I am a business owner. I own a skateboard company. We make all of our products in America, and I know what it means for an industry to outsource those jobs. And I agree with these tariffs because it's been a godsend for the manufacturing in this country. Real Americans, to get work to benefit our culture. And when I look at Democrats, what are they talking about? They've got Mamdani talking about free buses and faster buses. He has no authority to do that. Chuck Schumer is in fighting with Democrats, but the Socialists are likely gonna take over that party. I don't recognize them anymore. And it's strange to me that after all of my years, I'm gonna be 40 in a few months. The Republicans are the party of the working class and of the manufacturing jobs. I wish we had real political competition in this country, but we just don't. All right, so it looks like the Republican Party may be competing against the Socialists. It looks like Chuck's on his last legs. And like Gavin Newsom, of all people, is like the one semi normal Democrat that's like, keeping everything at bay. I mean, is this what we're facing? I'm pretty confident going into these midterms. Now, the past couple of weeks are a little worrying with the infighting on the right with some of these foreign policy issues. But, you know, today it seems like Trump is back on message. The infighting is sort of dying down. And when it comes to what the Republicans have to offer, we have wasted a little time on the old Epstein debacle. But maybe that's just political strategy. I gotta be honest. I look at the Democrats, and with the future of the party being AOC and Mamdani, they don't have anything tangible to offer. In fact, I'm seeing reporting now that Staten island wants to secede from New York City because Mamdani does not have the confidence of even his own city. So I can look at Trump and I can understand tariffs, I can understand these tax policies, these dividends. They make sense. I don't see anything on the Democrat side, unfortunately. You know, the only thing that AOC and Mandani have going for them, they've never been on Epstein's plan. Everything else, they got a lot of problems. Tim, great to see you. Hopefully the skateboard company keeps rocking. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Breaking news on wannabe Trump assassin Thomas Crook.
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A
Right.
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D
Like, the.
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A
The Epstein stuff gets a lot of eyes, and there is a small group of people that are extremely motivated by it and extremely, you know, interested in. In talking about it and stuff. But at the end of the day, the. The midterms, they're. They're going to be decided by the cost of groceries. They're going to be decided by whether people feel like the economy is doing well. Do you guys feel like the Republicans have any hope of fixing that? Oh, never mind. Here's Tim.
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E
There we go.
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D
Answer the question anyway.
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B
No, I don't trust anybody. I think. I think it's a. I still think it's a big problem, and I still talk to people in the real world who think the idea the deep state is an issue. After watching Trump nearly, you know, just barely survive that assassination attempt, seeing all this deep state work against him with lawfare and. And a lot of people voting for Agenda 47, in part was to dismantle the deep state. I think people, of course, want an economy where they can afford to feed their kids, but they also want to find a way to stop weaponizing the federal government against us.
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D
But don't. It's my.
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A
My belief that. That all that stuff is only important when people feel like they can pay the bills.
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E
Yeah, exactly. It's like. It's like a. This sounds bad, but it's like a luxury belief in some ways. It's like when things are going really well, then you can, like, start hashing these things out. But, like, the thing with the. With the Epstein thing with it being kind of an online thing is. Yeah. The only time it's ever deployed is when it's being weaponized against people. And, Yeah, I mean, like, look, the things that Trump has ran on that delivered his victory in 2016 was like immigration, reshoring, manufacturing, like these Are that's always gonna be the bread and butter issues for Americans. And it's like, yeah, the Epstein thing, it's obviously horrific and people wanna see it addressed, but it's kind of a niche issue. People online don't realize this, but it really is. Like, it's not like, for example, in earlier in the year when the Trump Bondi debacle happened, they didn't actually take Trump, didn't really take a big hit in the polls and the approval rating. And that's just evidence that's like, look, the vast majority of Americans aren't really online. They're not really tapped into online discourse at a super high level. They maybe they scroll their feeds. But like Twitter, I think the average or the, you know, 10% of Twitter is driven or, sorry, 90% of Twitter is driven by 10% of people. And then Twitter is like a fraction of the population. So it's like the amount of Americans that, like, their approval of Trump is dependent on how he handles the Epstein thing's like a very, very small proportion of the base.
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A
They're vocal and they very loud. They really, really think it's important. But I still believe that, you know, politics is moved by kitchen table issues.
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E
Especially, like, compared to the amount of Americans who have been to a Costco and they see, like, how many illegal immigrants are on there. That's the kind of stuff that you can win elections off of. Just go to. Everyone has to go to a Costco at some point.
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D
Like, have you guys gotten into the crook stuff yet? I'm just coming back from Jesse Waters show for those who don't know.
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E
Well done, by the way.
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D
It's fine. It's always fun.
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E
It's a glaze, but it was very well done.
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D
Oh, right on. I appreciate it. A van pulls up. I jump in a van and it.
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A
Takes you down by the river.
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B
Was there candy drives down by the river?
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D
No, they give me bottled water and then I get to watch Jesse's show and then he asks me questions and I had fun. But there's a handful of big stories and I wasn't here for the beginning to see what you guys talked about, but we'll grab this one. Massive Thomas Matthew Crooks went by they them on DeviantArt. Linked. Linked accounts reveal furry fetish crooks was not simply some unknowable lone actor. He left a digital trail of violent threats, extremist ideology and admiration for mass violence. So this is apparently coming from Tucker Carlson's report that he said, you know, we were told by the FBI. This is was from his report that he didn't have much of an online footprint. The FBI pushed back when Tucker Carlson said, why were they withholding this from us? And they said, you know, we never said he didn't have a footprint, but why didn't we know this when this happened? The narrative we were led to believe was that this guy may have been just mentally ill or even potentially right leaning. Now we're getting information that this guy had a flip, became lefty, tried to kill Donald Trump. And it's fitting into this pattern we've seen of these gender ideologue and furry aligned shooters. Strangely, just like this is the narrative we're hearing around the Charlie Kirk assassination as well. And there's been a handful of mass shootings that have been perpetrated by transgender individuals. It seems strange that this information was withheld from us. I'm wondering if this was a Biden cover up.
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A
I, I'm not sure that I, I have a. Well, maybe, I mean it completely could be a Biden.
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A
I had really put a whole lot of thought into that. I do think that it's worth noting that the people that will say, oh, this is something that's, you know, unique to the trans community or whatever. I think that this is actually an indication that there's so many people in the trans community that are actually mentally ill.
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E
Right.
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A
Like, I don't think that the trans is what's causing it. I think the mental illness is causing the transness. And then you've got people that are willing to, you know, commit violent acts based on their mental illness.
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D
I, I somewhat disagree because I've been talking about this earlier and if it was just that, you'd see this in a variety of different ideologies, but for some reason we have this pattern of what is it like six or seven shootings in the past year or two that have been involved in the specifically gender ideology, sect of things. Certainly if someone was just mentally ill or disordered, they could find themselves in a whole plethora of various weird online fetishes and ideologies. These people we end up seeing are particularly in one ideology. So I wonder if that means it is the online trans community that is particularly in favor of violence and perhaps because the Democrat messaging on has been so strong.
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That's what I think. The messaging around the trans community or about trans people is that Christians want to kill you. They don't believe that you should exist. The narrative that gets spun to these people is your life is in danger. They're just the way that the right treats you is violence against you. You need to defend yourself. Every. Like there's all kinds of leftists that say things like defend trans kids. They're that shirt defend trans kids with a knife and a rose on it or whatever. I think that the reason they're or part of the reason that they're violent is because they are told that they are under attack.
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E
Well, and beyond that, like, the thing with the trans ideology is destruction is built into it because that is how you participate in the ideology is you destroy your own body, you cut yourself up, et cetera, et cetera. And so naturally that's going to manifest in violence because the violence is part of the ideology. Like what happens when you become really right wing, you start like lifting and like reading philosophy. Like, it's just these sorts of things are just downstream from the effect. So it's like, yeah, when an entire ideology is built around like destroying your own body, naturally that's going to ripple out and you start destroying. It's a ideology of destruction. Fundamentally, that's absolutely what it is. And so it's like, yeah, no wonder this occurs. Like it's built in.
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D
So I got a list here of some DSM 5 mental disorders, of which the obvious one is gender dysphoria, which links to gender ideology. There's some degree of overlap with the furry stuff, which is just online fetish stuff. I actually think gender dysphoria is not the mental disorder being suffered by many of these individuals that are committing these shootings or murders. I think there's some other kind of dissociative disorder where they adopt an online identity to themselves. So you have these communities that are particularly violent leftist, and they also happen to have gender ideology within them. I think what we're likely seeing is somebody who is suffering some kind of mental illness finds, let's say five or six online communities. One of them dominates and imprints those views on them. And that's why there are these overlaps because there's. There are a lot of people with gender dysphoria that probably aren't even necessarily trans. Like, they may have gender dysphoria, but they don't do anything about it. They just keep it private, say nothing. Some we know who are trans and literally don't do anything. When I see these patterns, I'm like, there are. There is something about. There is some kind of mental illness where you are easily manipulated by online psychotic content or whatever that creates this sect of people who end up going nuts. Because the reason I say this is that this Matthew Crooks guy, this Thomas Matthew Crooks guy, had like, a flip. Like, his politics went one way and then it kind of switched to the other. Seeming like the issue, I would say then, is the ability to be influenced by aggressive online ideologies.
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E
Yeah, well, I think, like, I don't think it's a mental illness. I think it's just young people in modern society are just naturally disassociated by default because they're completely deracinated. They're stripped of all identity when they're born. Like. Like your identities that you're assigned at birth, like, you're gonna be a husband, you're gonna be a father, you're gonna be a son, a brother, a Christian, an American. All those things are disassociated. Because modern society, the only ideology, the only identity that is imparted on you is to be a consumer. So, like, I don't think it's a mental illness. I think they're just naturally disassociated.
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D
I agree. In fact, I can't remember when. I think it was a few months ago, we talked about this. Actually. It was on the culture war. I had asked mental health experts what would it be called if a person, not through dysfunction of the mind or body, but through conditioning, came to believe things that were not true? And they said that would be delusional disorder. That would be a mental illness or a mental disorder. And the interesting thing is your brain works perfectly fine. You get lied to, and they say you're delusional. The reason that's scary is while one. I agree, that's probably what we're seeing with these individuals, people of otherwise sound mind, who, if they were in a normal town with, you know, lovely married couples walking with their children and the milkman, you know, driving his truck down the street and the butcher selling bacon, he would identify with those things, and that would be their personality. But I wonder if the real issue is you take any person, isolate them Plug them into these online communities and that's what they become. The scary thing is what then happens to all of human society as we keep going in this direction of social.
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E
Media, because young people are all impressionable. That's every young person. It's just a matter of who's delivering the impressions. Your community, your surroundings, like how people typically matriculated or is gonna be online. And then it's a dice roll. Do you become a right wing influencer or do you become this.
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B
I also think this community in particular, as isolated as they are and mentally ill, they're susceptible to this being radicalized into being violent. And it reminds me of the 764 cult I talked about in the show a few times.
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D
Oh, right, yeah.
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B
You know, and Cash recently announced arrest for the 764 cult. And a lot of things they do is different types of people behind the scenes on the other side of the computer, find ways to radicalize these people and make them do real world violence.
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E
Yeah.
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B
And they have done either to themselves, to animals or killed people, you know, so I'm very curious, like, who's on the other side of this screen with these people?
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E
Well, and young people are naturally going to take on. They're going to take on a mission in life that's going to be radical. That's just like the stereotype of young people. They all want to change the world and so it's like a matter of channeling them into a productive force that's going to be revolutionary. Or oftentimes it gets channeled into this. But that's just like a very natural. There's two things that are very natural to young people is A, they're impressionable and B, they have this mentality they're going to change the world. So they take on. Naturally they just take on radical ideologies. That's been the case throughout history.
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B
Yep. Yeah. And the crooks thing is still weird to me. I'm still like shocked that Trump said he was satisfied with whatever report he got about it because there are so many weird inconsistencies and strange coincidences. He was training at the same shooting range as Department of Homeland Security.
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A
That was weird.
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B
The way they cremated him very quickly was very weird. The people on top of the roof cleaning it very quickly was weird.
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D
Yeah. Well, I mean, Trump now is pro Epstein release.
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B
Yeah.
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D
And the new line from Democrats is, oh, the FBI must have scrubbed all the incriminating evidence already. And my reaction is, why would they have done it literally right now? Why wouldn't they have Done it years ago. Why wouldn't Biden, like, Biden could have released it. What did Biden just sit on all this anti Trump evidence? So, you know, I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. It all seems very strange. And I'd be willing to bet if the truth ever did come out on, like, the crooks stuff and why all this weird stuff happened and, you know, other. Just weird stuff relating to Epstein, it's probably something that we never even thought of, just some super weird conspiracy, like, and, I don't know, Trump was involved in a sugar cane smuggling ring, and we're just like, never saw that coming. You know, just weird stuff.
- [32:47]
E
Well, because, I mean, like, Bongino and Cash, they come from our world. So it's like, if there were really something in there that would be sort of conclusive, they really should be winking and nodding.
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D
That's why it has to be that I took over already.
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B
Yeah. Tell me more about it. I agree. I think they've been in charge for a while.
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D
I don't. I don't mean that literally, but isn't it interesting to. To speculate on Cash and Dan going into the FBI and then they. They have this interview where Dan's like, epstein killed himself, dude. And everyone's like, he didn't look too sure.
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B
I know what you're saying, Tate. And I was. I had a lot of. I had high hopes for them, but they look like hostages. And what if.
- [33:24]
D
What if they got in? And, you know, the FBI is like, come on down to the, you know, the skiff. We're gonna bring you in for a debriefing. And they go in this room, and then, like, these double doors open up. They walk in, it closes, lights turn off, and then all of a sudden, a screen goes. Turns on. This is gigantic red eye. Being like, I am the AI you work for me now, Sauron.
- [33:43]
B
Yeah. We've been. I think we redistribute discovered AI. I don't have to get into whole. It's an ancient entity that we've rediscovered, but I do feel like it's an algorithm that's been in charge.
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D
You know, the AI Stuff freaks me out more than basically everything. And this is what demoralizes me. I've been saying, like, it's demoralizing that all these bickering, drama, debates. I've been having conversations earlier today with. With people about. It's like people are talking about people. They're not talking about the problems this country is facing.
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A
Yeah.
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D
And to an extent, they are, don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see that Trump got back on message. Yeah, or he's improving. He's getting back on message. Him calling for the release of the Epstein files. Good play, whatever it may be. Some are suggesting it was fifth dimensional chess the whole time. I, I always says, I don't know why it needs to be five. Why can't it just be three dimensional chess? It's like an extra layer or whatever. But, you know, it's pretty wild. Did you guys talk about the Democrat already who was colluding with Epstein? Yeah, I mean, that's, this is crazy.
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E
Well, I think the reason why we're seeing all the discourse just centered around talking about other people is just because society has become very feminized. Like naturally men talk about ideas and philosophy and women talk about other people. And that's just, there's, there's benefits to that. But this is what we're seeing is like, it's just much more convenient, conducive for society just to discuss other people because everything's all day.
- [34:59]
D
This was actually on I don't know if you guys watch the Jesse, Jesse Waters intro, but as I'm sitting in the van waiting to do the show, he's talking about the difference between men and women. And he showed this funny clip where guys are trying to watch a game at a bar and some female politician is blowing bubbles everywhere. All the women are like dancing and hooting and it's just like, yeah, men and women are very, very different. Very different.
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A
There is something to be said about like the people that are driving these narratives for the most part are podcasters and podcast space is largely male dominated. So you've got Today we'll attempt a.
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D
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A
NMLS 696891 guys that are even on the right that are ostensibly some form of masculine, but they're still engaging in this stuff. So I don't think that it's just, I don't think that it's just feminine. I think that it's, that it's a lot of it is just profit driven by what will get the clicks.
- [36:17]
E
But like oftentimes like people will say like, oh, like the media's like, oh, Joe Rogan is this. They're like extremist ideology. And then you tune in and he's just like, what if red meant go and green? You're like, what?
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D
That's, that's what's crazy, though, because to them, that is radical, right? Like the, the, the Joe Rogan esque, kind of, you know, stoned, generic conversation is deviant to their weird hive that they, that they exist in.
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A
Yeah, I mean, go ahead.
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B
I was gonna say they, they don't like things that are outside of the monolith. You have to, it's a hive mind. You have to agree with everything.
- [36:52]
A
The Overton window is, is, is shifted so far to the leftist, you know, ideology that to say things that, that, you know, 100 years ago were completely reasonable. Now it's like, it's, it's verboten. Like the idea like, like, I'm, I'm not for universal enfranchisement, right? Like, I think that there should be limits on who can actually vote when it comes to federal elections. That is incredibly radical to most people nowadays. The idea that everyone shouldn't get, you know, shouldn't be allowed to vote. It's like, I mean, look, man, you go outside and everybody you talk to, they're going to say, man, half the people I meet every day are stupid. And so why do you want them to vote then?
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D
Did y' all get to the 2,000 checks yet?
- [37:28]
A
No, we haven't.
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D
All right, let's hit this one. We got this from the New York Post, ladies and gentlemen. Let's get paid. Trump reveals when moderate income Americans can expect to get $2,000 tariff dividend checks. And I say, bravo. It's the right move. The estimate based on the total tariffs that have come in is that Trump will be able to give around 100 million people a check for $2,000. I am for this. This is beautiful. Trump vowed to issue tariff dividends sometimes before the 26 midterms during an Oval Office event. We're going to be issuing dividends later on somewhere prior to the middle of next year, a little bit later than that, he said, noting it would include thousands of dollars for individuals of moderate income. Bessant said the payments could come in lots of forms, including just the tax decreases that we are seeing following cuts made in the big, beautiful bill. So maybe you actually don't get a check, you just pay less in taxes, you get a better refund. I am for this. I was, I got a, I got A video I put up on my tim Pool channel. YouTube.com Tim Pool Check it out where I there's this debate from. It's Luke Beasley versus 20 boomer Trump supporters. And the first argument is about magonomics, which is just a buzzword that means nothing. You mean the tariffs. And of course Luke Beasley who won't come back on the culture war for debate. He's refused cuz he knows he'll get roasted. Engages in sophistry or just lies. Maybe it's a mistake, maybe he's dumb. The tariffs are brilliant. I'm a huge fan. We're not going to see the, the job repercussions just yet. It's going to take some time to rebuild our manufacturing base. But for now it is good in my opinion that we are telling foreign, we're telling American companies it's going to cost you more money to hire a Chinese or Indonesian laborer than an American worker to bring these jobs back. I will stress this though because we can, we can, we can split the story to while Donald Trump is in favor of that and I like it, he's also a big AI guy which of course is going to, you can't coexist in this space. AI is in is another industrial revolution that is going to wipe out a massive amount of jobs. Plus you've got the Optimus robot, Elon Musk talking about how the optimist robot is going to be doing surgery better than a doctor. So your high skill jobs are going to be wiped out by robots and computers. I don't know how these idea ideologies actually work alongside each other.
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B
They don't.
- [39:50]
D
This is a, all right, we're cooked.
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B
This is a short term benefit. This is, this is good that people are suffering and people could use anything they can get. And I'm pro tariff, but it does, it can't coexist in a pro data center dystopia where you're sacrificing farmland for all the data centers. And it's not like they're going to bring in jobs because even the largest data center in the world only has like 100 employees. 125 employees. So and that's, and that's the largest one. Most of them only have 20, 25.
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D
And they have replaced. This is one of the stories that we were talking about the other day. These, there's an old aluminum refinery probably had what, hundreds of thousand jobs plus.
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B
Something like that A lot.
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D
And now you get a data center with arguably maybe 100 jobs because you only really need a dozen or so.
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B
Yeah.
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D
Depending on the size of these data centers we are watching. And this is what people need to be careful of. Because I'm a fan when I hear this stuff about these tariffs, these dividends. People who wanna buy products from temu, fine, but that money is gonna get sent back across to the American people. And Trump was talking about using that to help them pay for healthcare. And I'm like, let's go. If you wanna buy from China, feel free to. And that's how that money you spend, that's gonna pay for healthcare. Okay, fine. Not a perfect solution. But in this digital world where services can be done internationally and products can be easily shipped, we need some kind of protectionism, in my opinion. That being said, this country is turning into a giant field of black cubes with fake houses around them and no jobs. And I wonder if all of these arguments about we got to turn the population crisis around from politicians, I wonder if they're just lying because it's a pressure release valve. Trump is the what it Stargate or. No?
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B
No, it wasn't Stargate, Patrick Stargate.
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E
Yeah.
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D
Stargate was like the big AI project.
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B
$100 billion. Yeah.
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D
Trump is very much for this. I get it. We don't want China to do it. But the end result is the argument just saying we have no choice. Humanity is reaching. It's. It's, you know, the back end of that bell curve. We're going down.
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A
Right.
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B
I mean, the argument people will say is, well, we got to beat China, you know, but it's like, so we destroy ourselves, like China's destroying themselves. And they'll say, well, it's a beautiful city. But I'll be like, okay, well, it's a city built on the social credit system through the AI, you know, so it's like, it's really no win. It's like gain a function. You know, once they start, it's. There's no putting it back in the bottle.
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E
And China's just like. Like what they make 13 grand is like the GDP per capita. They just strap RGB lights to a building and they're like, whoa.
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A
That's the way that the. That's the way that they at least advertise is, well, like, look at all the lights. And so that means that we're an advanced society.
- [42:20]
E
Well, they did a Dragon drone.
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D
Whoa.
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E
And meanwhile, it's like half the countryside. He's really struggling to make ends meet.
- [42:25]
D
Sure. But I. I have heard good things from Hassan Piker.
- [42:29]
B
Yeah, he just Cried when he got Mao's red book.
- [42:32]
E
I mean, the shock.
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D
Are you for real?
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B
There's a video of him getting the. The red Book. Like, dude, one of the original.
- [42:37]
A
Dude, one of the original copies. That was in English, and they're very rare. And so he was very excited. That's like, oh, man. Someone gave me a copy of mine. Come. Thank you so much.
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D
I gotta be honest. Did it really?
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B
No.
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D
Oh, I was like, wow. I would. I would.
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A
I would.
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D
I would love to own a copy of a little Red Bull book.
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B
No, it'd be great. I'm not going to cry out of te. Joy.
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A
Yeah.
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D
Like, I'm a. I'm a big fan of, you know, these. Of artifacts and preserving history so that we're not doomed to repeat it 100%. The lesson that I would give to people from here's the red book is here is the evil.
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B
Yeah.
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D
And Hassan's going to be like, we can try again.
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B
Yeah.
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E
And do you know how expensive it is to make a shot collar in the United States? It's ridiculous.
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D
Oh, yeah. He'd never buy one of those. Yeah. Just that poor dog.
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C
But is the guest allowed to disagree with Tim on this one?
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D
No, never. By all means, tell me why I'm wrong.
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C
Yeah, I mean, I just. I have no problem with the tariffs. I like the tariffs. That's bringing in revenue. I just don't think we should be sending it back to the American people. I think we should.
- [43:29]
D
We should.
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C
We should be taking a look at this, you know, huge deficit that we have. And unfortunately, the American people are pretty ignorant on basic economics, which is if we continue to print money. That's why grocery prices are so high. That's why home prices. I don't know about you guys. I live in Austin. Between 2020 and 2024, my home. The value of my home went up by 100%. Why? Because everybody moved there. There's a ton of money being flooded into the economy. We just printed trillions and trillions of dollars. Our debt now is half of our budget. You know, it's bigger than the military budget. I mean, I think we should put all this money. We should reduce deficits. We are toast if we can't get these deficits down.
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D
I agree.
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C
We are absolutely done if these deficits don't get reduced. I say put every dollar of this back to reducing the deficit.
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D
I disagree there, but I agree on the deficit issue in general, and that's got to come spending cuts. The problem is everyone's addicted and nobody wants to actually Be the one to say, stop spending on the credit card.
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A
Agreed.
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D
But let me say this about the tariffs. The reason why Trump is offering these dividends is because the American public does not understand long term planning. No, there the individual is in the immediate saying, I need to feed my family. What do tariffs mean? Democrats are weaponizing this. Like I mentioned that Luke Beasley guy lying where he says the economy is bad and tariffs are at fault. I'm like, you just made that up. Give me the correlation, give me the causation. We need these tariffs because it is impossible for an American manufacturer to compete with Chinese peasant labor. So the point of the tariffs is to say, if you make the product over there, it'll be more expensive than a product made here. How do you then convince a regular old American default labor who's not paying attention to the, to these issues to say, trust us, in the long term you will succeed. You can't. So what does Trump say? The tariff money is going to go to you in your pocket to cover your short term expenses. And now you're going to see the normies go, okay, I'm good on these tariffs. What's that going to do? Step one, bring back manufacturing. Now, the argument Trump has made on why this is beneficial is we're going to be under leveraged. If we can generate more economic activity internally, we can start generating more revenue, tax revenue, just through volume alone and use that to pay down the deficit. It I will concede, however, Trump ain't doing that unless he gets the spending.
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C
Way down because Elon tried that and got kicked out.
- [45:51]
D
The debt needs to be paid down and the deficit needs to be reduced.
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A
Yes. So the. Does anyone have any opinion on whether the $2,000 dividend is a response to the refusal by the Fed to lower interest rates? Is this. No, I think to stimulate spending.
- [46:09]
D
I think it's in response to the Supreme Court potentially striking down Trump's authority on the tariffs, which would be catastrophic for this country. I believe Trump is 100% correct on this issue and the Supreme Court may say Trump has no authority to do this. I think Trump's play here is we need the American people to demand it. We want. The Supreme Court is a holy political body. These people save Thomas and Alito are cowards. And if the American people are demanding it, Supreme Court's going to say fine. I mean, look at the issue of gay marriage. They refuse to even listen to that case despite the fact on the merits. Whatever you think about gay marriage, that was an insane ruling that they made. Back in, was it 2015 or 14, something like that. They won't even listen to it. They won't even listen to Texas v. Pennsylvania, which is their duty under the Constitution in original jurisdiction. They are cowards. Sorry. Thomas and Alito are based, but the rest of them are too scared. I get it. Someone tried to kill Kavanaugh. I get it. But the issue here is Trump is basically saying, I want the American people to scream out, we want tariffs. And so that's how you do it.
- [47:09]
E
Well, and Trump's trying to conduct like long term policy in a democracy, which is just like pretty much impossible to do. I mean, you look at like China, Iran, Russia, for what it's worth. Like they're able to plan in terms of decades because they're not accountable to voters. But United States, you have to think in terms of like, if you're in the House two years, if you're a senator six years, president four years, it's like, like it's impossible to really conduct any long term planning.
- [47:28]
D
Now you understand Hasan?
- [47:30]
E
Yeah, now I understand Trump. Caesar. It could be, you know what I'm saying? It's possibility.
- [47:35]
C
I think this is all about midterms. I mean, I think this is about midterms. Next year we're coming off the government shutdown. You can argue whether the Democrats or the Republicans looked worse on that. The whole issue in the midterms is going to be the Republicans don't want to give us our free health care. Trump wants to offset that by saying, yes, you didn't get your free healthcare, but we're going to give you $2,000. I think it's a political move specifically around the midterm. We just read, when are these things gonna happen? Mid 2026. When is the midterms gonna happen? End of 2026. I think this is a post shutdown political game by Trump to get people more money. And I think these things always end up bad. The government giving the people more money is just a buying of votes.
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A
From my perspective, anytime you do cash injections, you end up exacerbating the, the gap between poor and inflation. Because poor. Well, because poor people have to spend their money, right? They're gonna. If you give someone, if he does the, the, you know, $2,000 dividend, people aren't going to invest that or sit on it. They're going to spend it on their needs. And that money is inevitably going to go to people that have property, that own things. That money is going to go to the people that own businesses, to the People that own, that already have things. So anytime you do cash injections, that's.
- [48:50]
C
Where all the money for the, from the, you know, 2020 and 2021. And all those things went. Where did it go? It went all the rich, richer got richer, the poor got poorer. And the poor are the ones who are now paying $9 for a pound of ground beef, as opposed to five or six dollars. If I'm making $300,000 a year, I don't give a shit if I'm paying $9 for a pound of ground beef, but the guy who's making $20,000 does.
- [49:11]
A
That's all true, but the point that I'm making is, and it's something that we've talked about on the show in the past, right, right now, people are looking at the income inequality in the United States, and that's driving them away from reasonable politics, that's driving them to socialism. And so if you continue to pump money into the economy and create a larger gap between the wealthy and the poor, you're only going to make the poor people, which are, they're far more poor people than there are rich people. You're only going to make them more angry. And they're going to say, well, then this isn't working. We need some kind of new system for our.
- [49:48]
D
And I will stress this, too, if this continues long term, just giving $2,000 dividend checks to poor people, you're going to create wildlife dependency syndrome. Do not feed the bears. They'll become dependent.
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E
Well, I think we already have. That's like, the problem is the Democrats have built out this massive patriot network, and that's how they're able to get fantastic election results in cities. And so I think that's all Trump's trying to do here is trying to create a patronage network for Americans. Like, it's a very radical idea, but that's clearly what he's setting up here.
- [50:16]
D
Why can I just campaign on that? Can I. You let, like, run for office and just be like, vote for me and I will tax rich people to give money straight to you. Straight up check. Like, I'll just. We're attacks them. There's not enough of them to vote against me. So you vote against them, I'll give you their money straight up. No, no, no, no. No bickering, no innuendo. I will outright just take from them.
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E
But that's where the frustration's coming from. Because if you, like, looked at the discourse around the snap benefits ending, that's getting to the heart of where the Real anger is, is that it's the productive Americans versus the unproductive Americans. So that's all that's happening here, is there's been this massive patriots network the Democrats have set up for unproductive Americans. I think Trump is just trying to get the boot off of the neck of, like, working people.
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F
Totally. And you mentioned, like, you mentioned buying votes. That's what's been happening. They've been buying these votes for like, what, 80 years? Like, they've been doing it for a long time. And it's like we're doing it by taking money from corporations that are trying to do business in this country, which is like, probably it's a lot better than printing more of our own money. It's. It's real value.
- [51:09]
C
100% agree with that. I have no issue with the tariffs. What I'm saying is don't take the tariffs and then give it to the people, but take the tariffs and do it sort reduce the deficit so we can stop printing money. We can slow this inflation down. Inflation's at what, 3%? It's clearly more than 3%. I mean, there's, there's no way in hell it's 3%. The way that they calculate CPI is a total disaster to total that. And so, you know, it's not 3%. And the poor people are the ones that are getting hurt most. So I'm saying is let's reduce the deficit. Let's get it down as far as we can, stop printing all this money, get inflation under control.
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A
Okay?
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C
And I'm a fan of the tariffs. Let's use that as a tool to.
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F
Do that with where it's going.
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C
I just disagree with where it's going. I wish they would have let, you know, Elon and them go after it. Elon basically came out and said, there's no freaking way we're going to reduce spending. And so I think we're toast on the deficit unless we can do something like this to offset it.
- [52:00]
E
I think the problem too is, like, there's not much of an appetite among even Republicans now for reducing the deficit, because that was what motivated, like the Tea Party. I mean, this is.
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C
You don't get votes by reducing the deficit.
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It's been the Republican platform for 60 years, is like, oh, we're gonna reduce the deficit, and then it continues to go up. So I think the American people are saying it's not going anywhere. I might as well, like, raid the treasury on the way out and at least again build that system to reward Americans in some Way, like, I think, I think people just don't really believe the Republicans anymore on when it comes to, like, we're gonna reduce the deficit.
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A
They shouldn't.
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C
And we're, and we're economically ignorant as a society. We don't understand the fact that we have huge deficits. Everybody's looking at, you know me, what do I get right? And you're going to buy votes. It's going to continue to happen.
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D
Let's jump to the story for the New York Post. Let our people go. Zoran Mamdani Victory spurs Staten island polls to renew bid to pull out of New York City that's right, my friends, Staten island wants to secede from the State of New York from maybe not the state, but the city of New York because it's a conservative enclave, it's relatively smaller or lower in population density, and they don't want to be in a city of communists. I would say this. They have made the. They've had the conversation before. They've been pushing this bill. This, this is Lanza, or Staten island has been pushing a bill since 2008, seeing little traction. But now that it's swung so far left and people are fleeing, even Democrats may agree with this. The argument being if Staten island leaves New York City, becomes a socialist, guarantee you will never get a Republican or independent mayor again. Now, I gotta be honest. I don't care about all that. I mean, it is bad if we have this entrenchment and polarization. But I believe that if any part of this United States internally wants to secede from that, from their respective jurisdiction and either isolate or join a new one, they should be allowed to do it.
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E
Yeah.
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D
If Staten island says we want to be our own city, they should be federally allowed to do it by simple vote.
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E
There's something really interesting that no one's talking about with the Staten Island. Thing is if Staten island were to secede from New York City, it would destroy the fdny because the fire department in New York, when you're becoming a firefighter, you take like a test and they give you bonus points for living within the five boroughs. And that like puts you above everybody else. Now, if Staten island secedes, they lose those bonus points for living in New York City. The world's best firefighters are in Staten Island. It's completely eviscerate. The FDNY is going to be just full of like DMV employees.
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D
Cops too, though.
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E
The police department. Yeah, but the fire department specifically rewards people for living in the fire boroughs. Can you imagine what EMS is going to look like when it's just like DMV employees in charge of everything. Like New York City is going to become third World in so many different ways. This would be a massive hit.
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D
This polarization is going to happen either way. People are either going to, like, Staten Island's either going to get out or these people are going to move somewhere else.
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E
Yeah, I mean, that's the reason why New Jersey is even in play is because so many New Yorkers that still need access to the city move across the river to New Jersey because it's like slightly. It's a slight improvement. And so, yeah, it's going to put New Jersey and Connecticut into play more because everyone talks about Florida, everyone knows that, but it's like a lot of people still need the city because they work in it. And it's just going to like benefit Republicans in Connecticut, New Jersey, but destroy New York City.
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B
Has the Wu Tang Clan made a comment yet about this? No, that's all I can.
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E
Practical jokers made a statement this.
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D
New York and New Jersey lose hundreds of billions in resident income as Americans flee to low tax states. This has been going on for some time. So Mamdani coming in, he says he wants New York City to have the highest. I think it was Mamdani. He wants New York City to have the highest corporate tax rate in the country or it would rival New Jersey's corporate tax rate at around 11.7%. Companies are just gonna leave. I mean, you see Delaware is already bleeding companies. Coinbase has announced they're leaving Delaware because an activist Democrat judge said, we can stop your company from functioning like a normal company. You know what really pissed me off about it? The shareholders voted to give Elon money and said, elon, we want to give you money because we want our stock to go up. We want the company to succeed. He says, okay, you get one guy with a small handful of shares who sues. And the judge says, okay, the will of the shareholder is now gone because I said so. And I, as a shareholder, I can't sue to make it happen because a judge ruled it. I can't sue the judge and I can't sue the company to make them pay because the company already wants to. But I was blocked by this judge. These Democrat activists in politics are losing their minds and they're going to burn their cities and states to the ground. We gloat about it, but this is gonna create Escape from New York. Maybe that's the plan. Maybe the real conspiracy among the elites is how do we turn New York into a giant prison so we can have escape from New York with this. What's his name? Snake Plissken.
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B
Plissken, that's right.
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D
We want it. There's some guy right now in the Trump administration who was, you know, 10 or 11 years old when that movie came out, and he's like, man, I really wish we had this, that. And he's colluding behind the scenes to make it happen. And maybe that's Zoran Mamdani.
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E
Yeah, pretty close.
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D
Loved that. Loved that movie.
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E
Well, it's like, I mean, Democrats, they. They do want this. I mean, like, a lot of Republicans scratch their heads. Like, you're going to destroy your city. You're going to, like, you know, you're going to destroy the business. It's like, yeah. So then all their opposition leaves and they have the city to themselves. Like, do you think barbecue down in Haiti wants to, like, improve the country? No, he wants to stay in power. Like, people. And he wants to eat people.
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B
During lockdowns, everyone left the city. A lot of businesses died. Bill de Blasio bought up a lot of buildings, and the ones he didn't buy, like the hotels, he kicked a lot of those hotels out and used them for illegals.
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E
Yes.
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B
And then the mayor gave them debit cards.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Who'd have thunk that the business environment of a particular region matters? People will leave. This is something that the right. This is an argument the right makes all the time. Look, if you do this, people will leave. Look, if you do this, people will leave. And the left says, no, they're not going anywhere. No, they're not going anywhere. Well, it's happening in Delaware right now. Now it's happening. It's happening in New York right now. People have started to leave.
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E
And New York's a particularly interesting example because this is a phenomenon. Phenomenon that occurs across the Anglosphere is the biggest city in Anglosphere countries actually has a sizable conservative minority. So London has the same thing. Sydney has the same thing. Toronto has the same thing. And so what's happening now is they're trying to, like, overturn that. Because the biggest city in your country, I mean, a lot of people are saying, like, oh, it's New York, you know, let it collapse. It's like, yeah, this is the seat of our empire. Like, we're talking about the biggest city. That. That really exemplifies what America is. Unfortun. But it's just true. That's the way, like, your biggest city works. It's the flagship of your of your country. And so it's like that's all they're trying to do here is they're trying to consolidate power. Cause it'd be really demoralizing, quite frankly, like to completely eviscerate Giuliani's New York. The effect that that would have, like, I know a lot of people in chatter like, ah, who cares in New York? But the average American likes to vacation in New York. They like to watch Fox News and see the city in the background. They say, wow, that's America. Wow, this is this beautiful city. Et cetera, et cetera. Destroying that has a huge demoralizing effect on Americans. Whether you like, whether you like New York or not.
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B
It's just the reality of the New York City destroys the rest of New York, destroys the rest of the country. Like it had to ripple effect. And you can see it like when Paris did all their. When they voted on the gas taxes and they started the Yellow Fest riots, one of the longest running riots. You know, it was a lot of people from the rural areas that were getting impacted by ridiculous, you know, policies by the city, people who don't care about them. And I mean, we're seeing a lot of that stuff happen around the world right now. Everyone should be paying attention. Like what went on in Mexico the other day is insane, you know, because the violence is out of control. And I mean, that stuff could happen here at some point.
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E
Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, like the UK is a good analog where it's like in their case, I mean, America's a lot of cities, but in the uk, like London is the city. So all they really have to do is destroy London. And that destroys the country because that's where all the young people go for jobs, that's where their culture comes out of, etc. Etc. You name it. They only have to destroy one city. In America's case, we have backups, obviously. But New York City ultimately still is like where the culture comes out of, where a lot of our, I mean a huge chunk of our GDP is concentrated in that tri state area. It's like, again, I wish we could say just leave it, you know, like Chicago, you can experiment a little bit, you know, you can chuck a socialist out. Let's see what happens. You know, it's Chicago. What do we, you know, there's a nascar.
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F
How terrible.
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B
How dare you take.
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D
I think we're dealing with fatigue across the board. I think people are politically fatigued. We are in, you know, just after the presidential cycle, so people are pretty exhausted, but people I think are generally culture war fatigue. I've been hearing it quite a bit. And just recently, something funny happened.
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E
Where?
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D
At the casino here, Charlestown. They have commemorative John Brown chips. I know Shane's got this look on his face, like, interesting. And, well, so one guy at the table was. I forgot what someone brought up that these commander. That people will go online and buy these things or something. And then it came up and I said, I think it's actually kind of surprising they would do that yet, because it's almost like they're honoring the guy. And then he. He said, well, I mean, maybe you don't want to praise him, but you don't denounce him. And I said, yes, you do. And then he's like, we can't. We can't do this. We can't get into politics. And I was like, not even 1860s politics?
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B
Too soon.
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D
Too soon? Yes. Like, I guess I brought it up because I thought it was a funny scenario where it's like, we can't debate 1855. It's not. It's.
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A
It's not that you can't debate 1855 politics.
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B
It's.
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A
You can't debate anything that the left holds dear.
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D
Well, I don't think that this guy was necessarily a lefty. I think it was. He said, we can't do this because everyone is sick of politics. And it was like, he's like, we're gonna get into it. Let's just play this game and have a good time. And I'm like, I hear you.
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B
Well, I mean, we can denounce. We don't have to kill people. But John Brown did also hated slavery. That was a nice thing.
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D
Well, now we're in the debate.
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F
Yeah.
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D
The issue with the right on the Harpers Ferry armory is one thing, but his entire legacy of what was happening in bleeding Kansas, nightmarish. I mean, John Brown and his sons and these other people involved, they murdered journalists. They went to, like, printing presses. It was back and forth. I mean, pro slavery forces were massacring innocent people in farms. Anti slavery people go to farms and kill people. But I'm not here to have that debate.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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D
But, you know, I just want to point out, my point is that I think people are generally just like, I don't hear it. They, dude, I'm. I'm so just burned on all of this. I think the issue is. It feels like nothing's happening. It feels like. I feel like a rag being squeezed as hard as possible. The last little bit of water out of it. And I'm just waiting for that pop to be like, we've done it. There's a light at the end of the tunnel and it feels like it ain't there.
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G
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B
I think something, we're on the edge of something even crazier. I mean it's just because I think, well, that is a whole other problem. But like I feel like we are on the edge of some, something major. Like there's a, the what you're talking about, the people who don't want to talk about politics anymore. I think that's almost by design. It's been pumped into everyone's heads. We've been trapped in election cycle for 10, 15 years. Right. Usually like growing up, I remember election cycles would be like four years. We take a little breather. And I was younger, obviously, but I was always a political junkie. And since Trump, since like 2014, 2015, it's never stopped the media. Everyone went crazy. And I think they took advantage of that. They hijacked the algorithm, social media, everyone went insane. I think part of that is by design to make it so everyone gives up and then stops paying attention, you know, and something happens.
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D
I wonder if a lot of it was, you know the story of Obama using Facebook to help him win.
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B
Yeah.
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D
Oh, 8 is that a young whippersnapper went to him and said, are using social media. And they were like, we don't, we don't know what that is because they're older, they weren't paying attention. And so they decided to start campaigning on social media and it helped them turn out more of the youth vote, which wasn't like the principal factor, but it was a big deal. Everyone talked about it. I wonder if Democrats after that point said, we need to own this, this will rally people. And this created the phenomenon that started driving wokeness and ultimately helped Trump win because people were annoyed by it.
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B
They did a short term benefit. They were like, we can take over this to win for a while. And they did all Right.
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D
I'm going to let you guys in on a not so secret. Secret it on what was it, Thursday? Last week, the culture war interview was with Ben Davidson about a solar, about the solar storm. 200 and some odd thousand views.
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C
Wow.
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D
Typically, you know, when we do interviews on the show, it's like maybe like 80 to 100.
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B
Yeah.
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D
I think people are just, I think there's a couple things. One, when it comes to the political issues, it's just like I've heard this a hundred million times. Arguments about tariffs have been going on now for, for longer than a year with them, in fact, for about a year. Okay. And the political violence stuff is just ramping up. I mean, I'll be honest, it's how I feel. I, I see people in the chat are saying something to that effect as well. I feel like we're all just, at a certain point you can only say the same thing where people are like, give me a solution, solve the problem, or talk to me about football.
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E
Yeah. Literally. It used to be like politics was for nerds, like guys that would wear suits to school. And then it turned into blood sport. Like everyone was tuning in and I night for all these shows and everything. And now we're kind of going back to like maybe the nerds get.
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D
I do, I agree. I think, I think when you look at that young kid, everyone's been ragging, ragging on what's his name? Brylan Holland Hollahan. And I don't mean to rag on him. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but conservatives have always come off as stodgy, suit wearing, boring dudes. And they were the ones who are talking high level politics. And Democrats were the ones who were talking at your heartstrings, being like, but look, little kids crying, we have to burn the Constitution. And people were like, okay. Republicans now seem to be drifting back into that space or, and I think, you know, a good example of this is actually the, the Candace Owens stuff. Let's, let's, let's jump into this. Let's, let's get drama with it. We got the story from Us Weekly. Christian influencer Ali Beth Stuckey slams Candace Owens claims Charlie Kirk murder was an inside job. So if you've been following it, actually, you know, it'd be funny. Let's, let's ask Grok because Grok does not like Candace Owens. That's not meant to be a joke. I mean, like, let's see what it says. I'm, I'm gonna ask it A question, Grock.
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A
Why don't you like Candace Owens? So the drama is. I, I still feel like the drama is, is something that is still kind of feminine overall. I mean, I know that people, it, it gets clicks and stuff, but, you know, you hear, hear people on the right and podcasters on the right doing things like saying, go out and, and do something and et cetera, et cetera. Good.
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D
Oh, if you're gonna finish.
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A
I just think that, that the, the response is to click the next podcast. And I think that there needs to be more people that are going out to do that.
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D
This is my point. Candace was getting big traction on the Blake Lively. Blake Lively stuff. I know nothing about that, but, like, basically every woman knew something about it. She talked about Bridget Macron being a man and not policy. I thought it was interesting. She got sued. We talked about it. Other than that, not really. Like, when there's a legal action, I'm like, oh, interesting. But just like the claims of men, I'm like, I don't think Bridget McCrone's a man. I mean, maybe whatever. Now the Charlie Kirk murder can, you know, potential inside job stuff. I think the success that she is having right now is largely indicative of people don't care about the policy talk right now. We are burned on it. We have been told it a million times. Trump has said xxx over and over and over again. Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, policy, policy. And we're still waiting to see results on these things, which probably won't. And so people are like, I'm bored. I want something else. Well, you know, Candace has offered them, offered them these things, which has resulted in political controversy. So I asked Grok, has Candace Owens implied Erica Kirk knew in advance about the Charlie's assassination? I had to put the Charlie Kirk assassination, Grok says, yes, Candace Owens has implied. I'm going to zoom in on this. That Erica Kirk knew in advance about the circumstances surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10th at Utah Valley University. While Owens explicitly denied directly accusing Eric of involvement such as murder, she has made repeated statements suggesting Erica had prior knowledge of threats or a broader conspiracy tied to Turning Point usa, which Erica now leads as the CEO. And so they just, you know, context. Owen's comments stem from her ongoing conspiracy theories about the assassination, et cetera, et cetera, etcetera. Again, I think people are really interested in conspiracy theories. They're fun. I mean that in general. I'm not trying to say anything related to Charlie, you know, this idea that there's an ice wall, for instance, and it's been covered up. Indeed.
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A
Yes.
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D
People are interested by the stuff. And I think right now the challenge is when we are told for a year straight political violence and it keeps happening, eventually we're just like, like, I know, right? When Trump says tariffs and they and the Democrats argue the argument has not changed, the response is, I know. Tell me something I don't know.
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B
When it comes to the Grok thing, though, and asking that question, doesn't that answer have something to do with the amount of people saying that Candace said that, even though Candace didn't actually say that potentially.
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D
But for whatever reason Grok is saying this, I wonder if Candace could potentially have a defamation claim.
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C
Direct implication of prior knowledge. In episode 260, she said, wow.
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D
Seems like Erica knew about the threat and she now runs an organization that killed Charlie and she hasn't done anything about it. And it makes you wonder what else she knew. This was widely interpreted as hinting at Erica's awareness of security risks or internal betrayal before the shooting.
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B
I'm curious if that's a real quote.
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D
I bet it's not. I bet it's.
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A
I've watched.
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B
I've watched almost all the episodes. I don't remember her saying anything like that.
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D
I noticed, which means look at the dot.
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B
That I don't think this is real. And that thing right there. Erica knows everything that she said in the reply. I believe she was just. Just quoting Andrew Colvitt, who said that on a podcast.
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D
She didn't quote anybody. She just literally said it.
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B
But that's what he said. Those three words, too.
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D
Someone. Someone asked, did Erica know about the. The donor? Something like that. Erica knows everything, right?
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B
I think that's what she was referring to. I mean, I don't know. But when I see Erica knows everything. That's what Andrew said. And then he had to clarify the next day because everyone was like, what does that mean? And he clarified. You know, I forget the context, but.
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E
Like, all of this just epitomizes, like, the TMZ ification of politics. And that's just what people, like, get completely exhausted with. Because, like, it's. It's like with the Mori show. It's like the first time you watch it, you go, oh, wow, this is crazy. Look at this. And then what? He's tuning in every night.
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B
I'll say this, though, to defend, because I, I'm. I'm enjoying Candace's.
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A
I'm enjoying it, too.
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E
I'm just saying, like, that's enjoying it.
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B
But, like, I would say Calendar Gate was drama and Ridiculous. And this is different than that because it's not just surface level. I don't hear her actually blaming certain people for the murder, but I hear her going on different. If anyone's read crying of Lot 49, it reminds me of the Thomas Pynchon novel Edibles, going after all these different avenues that are interesting, that pull together different threads. There's no answers yet, but I like the questions the same way I defended Alex Jones during.
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D
I think the question is if you were to go to somebody right now and say we have the option to talk about tariffs or this weird picture of a Bush, the Charlie Kirk assassination, people are going to be like, talk about the Bush.
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B
Yeah, I'm sure a lot. I mean, a lot of. Obviously a lot of people are engaged. Her numbers are insane. You know, a lot of people are.
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D
She's had good numbers across the board for a while. I don't, I don't think the Charlie Kirk thing is. Is driving or increasing her.
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B
I don't think. And I don't personally think she's doing it for numbers. You know, I like the Brigitte thing was interesting at first. I hadn't. I didn't care. But if you watch it, it's really about how there's a lot of pedophiles within the government and you can go look that stuff up, man, she's really keep around.
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D
She's really taken over the Alex Jones mantle.
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B
That's what I. I had Alex Jones son on my show a few weeks ago and I said, said they're gonna, they're gonna do to Candace what they did to your dad. That's coming. It's already happening.
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D
Sued with Bridget McCrone. I mean, there was an argument, I guess that they had sent something to her to prove Bridget McCrone.
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B
McCrone started in only fans.
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D
Wait, what?
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B
No, I'm just kidding. To prove. No, I mean, I don't really care about Brigitte.
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A
Her.
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B
But the. But the story around it is fascinating. And the amount of people that are involved in the politics of that and that administration and how openly pedophilic they are is disgusting and disturbing.
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D
You know, strangely, a lot of governments and a lot of world leaders.
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B
Exactly. That's why it's so fascinating.
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D
I love how the Epstein stuff was. You're nuts if you talk about it. And then as the deep state begins to break down now, it's like, yeah, no, we all know about it. In fact, the Democrats are accusing Trump of the Epstein stuff. Trump's now saying, now release it. And I'm like, you Know, that's what I was saying. I'm Jesse Waters, like no one knows. Yeah, it's gonna be something weird like, you know, I don't know, Trump was just like a low, low, a low level pot dealer or something stupid. I'm kidding. But it's gonna turn out that something is, is gonna be just we didn't expect.
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E
Yeah.
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D
Or it could be just completely on the nose. Epstein, pedophile rich people buying kids.
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E
But it's part of the arbitrage is like you turn these stories into something absurd so that way people actually lose focus of what? Like what if you actually drill down what's the subject? Like they do the same thing with the Clinton kill list where it turned into like the, oh, you know, like something bad happens like oh, he had information arrest of Hillary Clinton. It's like. Yeah, because if you can like arbitrage and like turn it into an absurd thing then completely loses what the actual story was about in the first place.
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D
So I asked, has she said Robinson was framed? Yes. Candace Owens repeatedly stated and implied that Tyler Robinson was framed for Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10, 2025. Her claims portray the official narrative, Robinson as the lone gunman motivated by anti conservative ideology as a government orchestrated cover up up involving evidence tampering, witness suppression and planted details. I got to be honest, that narrative is infinitely more interesting than tariffs.
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B
Yeah, I mean I was saying that on this show two days after, two days after the assassination.
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D
Should we just.
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B
I think I question that official narrative too.
- [73:18]
D
Should we just talk about data centers? And I think this is one of.
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B
The only things we should be talking about because it's going to affect the farmland, it's going to affect them. It's going to genocide the middle class if whatever is left of the middle class.
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D
Oh, it's cooked, bro.
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B
And the data centers aren't only going to take the farmland and all land. It's also going to whoever does have a house near those things. It's going to make them pay more. They're already energy bills and their water bills.
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D
I think that the declining birth rate, I'll put it this way, I try to be very careful on this stuff. I think there is a decent probability based in reality that powerful corporate and government forces predicted the AI timeline. Military technology is much more advanced than civilians. And they said what happens with a new industrial revolution? We know what happened the first time the Luddites there was violence. People said I'm not going to give up my job.
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B
And they put more soldiers against the Luddites than they put in the Napoleonic Wars.
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D
There you go. So what, what happens if they say, listen, the computers are going to bring about a new industrial revolution. Once we hit artificial intelligence and it takes over a lot of these jobs, how do we prevent a Luddite revolt? Simple. No Luddites.
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B
Yeah, I was just thinking about this on the way over for. Oddly enough, I was thinking how they created it. You know, the Unabomber was MK Ultra. That's. You can look that up. I was like, maybe they created the MK Ultra. They MKultured him to make Luddites look bad. You know, I agree with his book.
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D
His book is amazing.
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B
Just no violence.
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D
They were advocating for a culture in which people don't have children.
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B
Yeah.
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D
So that by the time the AI clicks on, it's a, oh, thank God the AI has filled the role for these jobs we don't have of. You guys see Ford saying they can't find any mechanics? Oh, yeah, they're. The robots are coming.
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B
The Anthro.
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D
The only problem is nobody's gonna be buying cars.
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B
The CEO of Anthropic was just on like 60 Minutes or something talking about how they're gonna wipe. Claude's gonna wipe out half the workforce. White collar workforce, I believe he said. And then I was thinking about how Peter Thiel's been talking about anyone who criticizes AI he calls a legionnaire of the Antichrist. And I was thinking at first that was against a lot of people like us who are openly critical. Maybe it is. But I think it's also against his competition because he's been open about wanting to monopolize these industries. So he's talking about Anthropic, he's talking about Altman, and he wants to own all of that, consolidate all that power into something like Palantir.
- [75:29]
D
I want to ask you guys about this new show that just came out. Let me see if I can find an article about it.
- [75:33]
B
I watched one episode.
- [75:36]
D
Let me. Let me grab this article. This is from the Hollywood Reporter. Pluribus boss Gordon Smith addresses anti AI subtext. Says it's less rich to spell things out out. Smith acknowledges another prominent theory that the show is commenting on political division. But there's an under discussed topic he raises after episode three of Raya Seahorn, starring a series from Vince Gilligan. So for those that aren't familiar, this is not really a spoiler because I learned this just from the show's info section. It's actually, I guess they have to release this information before you see the first episode. Despite the fact that, like, watching the episode anyway, the point of is humans get a signal from outer space. It is an RNA sequence. They put the sequence together, it accidentally infects humans, turning humans into a hive mind. And it's really interesting. I watched the first couple of episodes and without getting into any spoilers in particular, as it pertains to the AI conversation, the gist of the show is 12 people on the planet are not effective. They're immune for some reason, but every human becomes one and they refer to themselves as usual, us. And there's a guy in the show and he's like, is this the end of the world? Is it wrong? So I'm curious. With this new show coming out, I was thinking about it. No murder, everybody, just one with each other, working towards a shared common goal. But it sounds like a nightmare dystopia.
- [77:02]
B
It's zombie paradise.
- [77:03]
D
Yeah, right. Zombie paradise. What do you guys think?
- [77:06]
A
Think?
- [77:07]
F
I mean, I. I watched for the first episode. I also thought it was kind of like they're. They're probably going to explore this in later episodes and, like, whether there's positives benef and positives and negatives to it, but, I mean, is it just a human thing where you feel this need to be individual? Because I know friends, some of my friends in Japan don't feel a similar drive to be individual. It's a very different culture fundamentally. So I don't know. Well, I'm excited to see what they do.
- [77:30]
D
I'm curious as to how they even do a show to be real.
- [77:32]
A
Real.
- [77:33]
D
Because basically there's two characters.
- [77:34]
F
Yeah, yeah.
- [77:35]
D
There's the woman and everyone else and the hive. And whenever she talks, like, there are actors and actresses who play, you know, hived humans or whatever, but it's one character and it's just like they'll all talk in unison sometimes.
- [77:47]
B
Yeah, I thought it was. There was a fun. I only saw the first episode. That was a funny moment when I won't give too much away when she's sitting in her house after everything goes down and the TV goes on. Yeah, it's like a very interesting feeling. You know, I haven't seen a lot of other shows, unlike maybe the Leftovers, but they did deliver the mind virus via chemtrails. If everyone.
- [78:04]
D
That's right. Yeah. Okay, spoilers for episode one, because it's been out for a little while, but this is interesting stuff. The. The scene is they're outside a bar and they look up and there's all these planes spraying chemtrails. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The nasty part was when the. When the scientists grabbed the donut, started licking them.
- [78:20]
B
Oh, yeah, yeah. It was great how it accelerated so quickly. And it also reminds my. Remind people of lockdowns, too.
- [78:26]
A
Too.
- [78:27]
D
They're evil.
- [78:28]
B
They are for sure.
- [78:29]
D
So I guess we're gonna get into spoilers a little bit because we have to, but only to episode two, because I haven't seen episode three yet, so. People have seen episode three. Feel free to spoil it for me if I'm gonna spoil the rest for everybody else. But the. The one. One of the. In the first episode, what happens is people start getting infected and they start. Their brains start linking and I guess the. The main character is like a lesbian. Is that what it is?
- [78:51]
B
Yeah. I almost tuned out when I saw.
- [78:52]
D
That, to be honest. I was just like, oh, goodness, stop up. I was like, I thought it was her publicist. And then she's like, hey, baby. And I was like, come on, guys, do you really have to keep doing this kind of stuff?
- [79:04]
B
This is Trump's America. Do we need this?
- [79:06]
D
No, it's just that it's always ham fisted.
- [79:08]
F
Yeah.
- [79:08]
D
Like, bro, if. If one in ten episodes had a gay couple, I bet.
- [79:12]
B
I don't know.
- [79:12]
D
Whatever. Yeah, but when literally every single show, everyone's gay. And I'm like, we get it, dude, you're gay. But anyway, her lesbian significant other dies and then you find out. Spoiler alert. I warned you.
- [79:23]
A
You.
- [79:23]
D
You find out 866 million people died in the chemtrail spray, mass infection, and she makes this point one episode, she's like, you never gave anybody a choice. You forced them. And then a. An eighth of the planet, seventh of the planet died.
- [79:40]
B
I was thinking we're watching predictive programming roll out right before our very eyes.
- [79:44]
D
Just like Utopia.
- [79:45]
B
I was just going to say just like Utopia, because that was happening right before COVID right?
- [79:48]
D
Yeah.
- [79:49]
A
Yeah.
- [79:49]
D
Have you. Have you seen Utopia, bro? You don't know what it's about. So.
- [79:54]
C
So what is it on?
- [79:55]
A
What.
- [79:56]
D
What. What was it? Amazon?
- [79:57]
B
Actually, I know about it. I didn't watch it.
- [79:59]
D
Canceled the show because. Not because it was doing well. They cancel it because people freaked out. All right, so the show Utopia is about a tech billionaire who believes the world is overpopulated, so he makes. He makes fake meat and things like that vet to try and reduce carbon footprint, but it's not working. So he orchestrates a fake pandemic so they can rush through an untested vaccine through Congress and man as not a joke before COVID it's not a joke to mandate the vaccine to everybody, but secretly the vaccine just sterilizes you. And here's the best part. The characters in the show, there's a comic book, book called Utopia that was written by someone who apparently had knowledge of the plot. And when you look at the comic, there's hints as to what they're going to do next in this conspiracy. Isn't that a ridiculous story? I mean, for us, they just rushed through a vaccine and mandated it. And we had a piece of media that laid out exactly what people thought was happening. So they, for that reason, they canceled the show. Show because people were freaking out about.
- [81:09]
E
It or because people had already seen it. It's like, I know the plot.
- [81:11]
D
What if. What if this Pluribus thing is the same thing?
- [81:15]
B
That's what I was.
- [81:16]
D
AI is going to. Bro, this is neuralink. When we are all neuralinked, you might think, actually, I'll put it like this, bro, we're already in this right now. We're already in this right now. Because with Twitter, you log on. What you see is how you behave. We are in a miniature version of the Hive already. They could. Elon could go on X. Like, Elon and Zuckerberg could get together and be like, make sure people only see corn is the healthiest meal you could possibly ever eat.
- [81:47]
F
True.
- [81:47]
D
And then everyone logs on and they keep seeing these videos. Influencers then say, I want to get a million views. I'm going to make a video about eating corn. And then all of a sudden, everybody's dressed like corn, driving around ethanol corn cars. If they decided that's what they were going to program our minds to be, what happens when you plug our brains.
- [82:03]
C
In isn't the Hive. We're supposed to be coming together and aren't we, like, going farther apart?
- [82:07]
D
Like, well, there's two competing.
- [82:09]
E
Oh, two competing.
- [82:10]
D
What happens. What happens when everybody gets neuralink implanted and then you plug your brain in and now X is happening in. In a fraction of a second. Instead of you scrolling through, you're seeing everything all at once to the. To you inside your own mind, you would feel like an individual. You just being influenced and knowing what people are thinking. Outside of the Hive, everybody would seemingly, seemingly be working in unison, maintaining they were individuals while they all march in lockstep.
- [82:38]
B
Yeah, I think it's kind of old.
- [82:40]
F
It's like seeing it, the left being like the current thing, people being like the, oh, current year, current thing. That's why I kept thinking of the whole episode Seeing it like the same exact paradigm. But you're right, it's two. Two separate competing things. Because on the right, a lot of people have the. The similarities of. Of thought because of the way Twitter works. But you're right, it takes place in a fraction of a second.
- [82:57]
D
You want to know minutes? You know what's really scary about the show Pluribus, the human hive, the collection of all human experiences on the planet, is a leftist.
- [83:05]
F
Yeah.
- [83:06]
D
For real.
- [83:07]
B
Yeah.
- [83:07]
D
They were like, we're vegetarians and we always welcome pleasure.
- [83:11]
F
Yep.
- [83:11]
D
And I'm like, they're degenerate vegans.
- [83:14]
F
That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- [83:16]
D
The hive is literally just woke.
- [83:17]
B
And the show came out on the heels of the news of 3ey Atlas. People hearing a signal from it and believing it might have been the wow. Signal. Signal. And then this show came out and then they're hearing the signal. You know, it was pretty weird and trying to decipher it.
- [83:30]
D
So when's 3i Atlas supposed to come back? Like two weeks. Right?
- [83:33]
B
I don't know. That story kind of died out. Maybe because I'm following because it's behind the sun.
- [83:37]
E
Well, it was.
- [83:37]
B
I think they said it might have changed direction or something. Or the tail direction, last I heard.
- [83:41]
D
Was that it's next going to be visible.
- [83:43]
B
Okay.
- [83:43]
D
Coming around, beginning of December. All right, so people claimed there was a signal coming from this comet, 3I Atlas. But the. But the origin point, when they trace back its orbital path is the same vector, the same vector of sky, where the wow. Signal came from. So people are like, a signal wasn't sent in advance. Now this thing is heading our way. Some people are putting out this nonsense, saying that once it went around the sun, we got blasted by this massive G4 coronal mass ejection. But Ben Davidson was like, stop. No, it's not happening.
- [84:15]
C
Do any of these people have kids that are doing this? I'm just wondering which ones my mind shares on. Like how to keep a seven and a nine year old killing each other.
- [84:23]
B
Yeah.
- [84:24]
C
And how to grow into great human being. Like, where, why? Where's all this stuff coming from?
- [84:29]
A
Well, there's a lot more. There are.
- [84:31]
C
You got a new one, Right? Like, did you think of anything else other than keeping your newborn alive? Like, I don't understand. Sorry for changing the topic. But like, where are people coming up with this stuff?
- [84:40]
A
No, but I think that's a great point. The people that are coming up with this likely are not having kids. Right. If you don't have a hopeful outlook for the future. You're not going to have kids. And having children is a manifestation of belief that there is hope for the future because you wouldn't have kids if not. And where the reproduction of people isn't happening. Our replacement rate is incredibly low or we're not meeting the replacement rates. So. So I think that the lack of having families is emblematic of people looking at society and saying, oh, I'm just gonna live for me, live for today. Because whatever doomsday scenario they prefer, right? Whether it be the seas are gonna rise because of global warming or our planet's on fire. You listen to kids that are children of left leaning parents and they sound like Greta.
- [85:40]
B
You know, they remember when they were saying we have 12 years to live.
- [85:42]
A
Oh yeah. And this was little kids 15 years ago.
- [85:44]
D
Now she's like, Israel is climate change.
- [85:47]
B
Gotta rebrand.
- [85:48]
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
- [85:50]
A
But I think that that's, there's some substance to that. People aren't having children and it's probably feeding. It's probably a self fulfilling prophecy. Like people don't have kids because they don't have hope for the future. And I think a lot of that is because society has told people, hey, don't have kids. It's better for the environment if you don't have kids. That's a narrative that you see all the time. Time. And I think all these things are connected.
- [86:12]
D
Let's jump to this, this story here. We'll grab one more from the New York Post. Michigan man charged after fatally shooting teen who broke into his garage. Now, on the surface, if I'm told someone breaks into his attached garage, part of his house and he shoots them, I say, well, hold on, that sounds like Castle Dr. It sounds like self defense. Well, the story's a little bit more than that. Check this out. Say a Michigan man fatally shot a teen who broke into his garage and is now facing a manslaughter. Ran at. Savon Wilson, 17, was with six other, mainly teenagers, when the group broke into Dayton Napton's garage shortly after 1am Napton, 24, got an alert from his home security system, grabbed the 9 millimeter, ran outside and fired two shots into the garage through a windowless door, striking Wilson. As the group fled, Napton fired five more shots before going back to his house, reloading his gun and returning outside. According to a statement. Sivan was running away and got shot. Shot, said Sean Madden, Wilson's father. Another teenager in the group was also shot in the leg. The defendant Crossed the line by firing outside his home at flinging persons. So Siobhan Wilson is the one who died, but was he shot through the door while in the property illegally? That's the question. If they're saying he should be charged because after he shot the guy, he ran out and shot him as they ran away. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold on. If these dudes are running away and he keeps shooting anyway, he's creating a risk to everybody in the area. You don't do that. But you're going to charge him for, like, I guess, reckless discharge, endangerment. Yeah. Negligent discharge, something. I don't know. But if the dude died while in his home because he shot through the door, I don't see that as being manslaughter.
- [87:49]
A
I think that anytime you're shooting through a door, you don't know for sure what your target is. So that's wrong. Wrong.
- [87:57]
D
Yes. But what if it's your. There are people who broke into your house, they're currently in your house, they are illegally in your house. I. The issue I take with it is if I'm in my house and someone breaks in and my bedroom door is closed and I can see them walking up to the door and like, let's say the circumstances. I literally know no one is supposed to be in my house. Am I supposed to be like, better wait for them to open the door?
- [88:20]
A
Yeah. To be honest, to make sure that you are. Are. Are going to have a. A legal engagement. Yes. Because if you shoot through the door, they're the. The prosecution is going to say whether or not it's justifiable.
- [88:35]
D
Whatever. It's crazy.
- [88:36]
A
But the prosecution is going to say you could not be sure of the intention of that person.
- [88:42]
D
No. In your house, I'm telling you.
- [88:44]
B
Is it a different.
- [88:45]
D
This is not Castle doctrine.
- [88:46]
A
I'm telling you what the prosecution is going to say.
- [88:48]
D
I doubt they're going to say that in a Castle document.
- [88:50]
B
Is it a difference if it's the garage door? I think out to an outside of it as a. Opposed to in your house.
- [88:54]
A
You've. Again, I think if someone's in your house, you are always in. In the right to defend yourself. But I'm telling you what the prosecution is going to say to a jury. They're going to say, he didn't know who was out there. He couldn't have known he shot through the door. He was reckless. And then you're at the. Then you're at the mercy of a jury. So whether or not he was le, Whether or not he was doing the right, right thing, that's, that's questionable. But I'm telling you that the, the jur, the prosecution will absolutely say you were wrong for shooting through the door.
- [89:30]
D
Right. So my, my position is that's, that's insane. Like if, if I'm at home and somebody, let's, let's say we, let's say this building right now, we watch someone outside kick the door in and we know it's an intruder and they're armed. So we slam this door shut, shut. And we see him run up and go to the door and start banging on it. I have to be like, no, no, guys, no, no, guys. Okay. We clearly saw him enter and come to the door, but we have to wait for him to get a clear shot on us before we can defend ourselves. Defend ourselves?
- [89:55]
C
What if you didn't see a gun?
- [89:58]
D
Somebody, I don't care if they, I don't care if I saw, if you or anybody saw a gun. Someone breaks onto your property, it is not the fault of the victim to assume that this person isn't or is trying to kill them. It is an imminent, imminent threat against your life if someone breaks into your house. I, I, I, I just can't stand this. You're the victim of someone breaking your house and you have to give them the opportunity to kill you before you can protect yourself. That seems crazy to me. That's why this story is crazy. Look, I, I will, I will have no problem saying he shouldn't have ran out the door and shot him as they ran away. That's, that's nuts. But, but to charge him for shooting through a door at people who broke into his house, and he's supposed to be like, I'm going to give them an opportunity to get line of sight on me before I can defend myself in my home.
- [90:38]
E
It's like state mandated duels.
- [90:40]
A
No, but look, you're to do that, you're, you're breaking one of the four fundamental firearms rules. Know your target and what's beyond it.
- [90:48]
D
And my point is, if you are in your house, in the living room watching tv and the front door gets kicked open by a raging lunatic who goes, I'm going to kill you. So you run to your bedroom, slam the door shut, grab your gun and point at the door and you see him running up going, yar, yar. You're supposed to be like, better let him open the door and see that I'm here before I can defend my home. That's crazy. To me. I'm telling you what I understand. I understand your point about the jury's going to say. I'm saying. Saying that is insane.
- [91:11]
B
Hopefully you have security cameras so you can prove that you've been attacked, you know, and hopefully that helps. But they're totally still going to use that against you in court.
- [91:18]
D
I understand the risk of, like, if you're in your bedroom and you wake up in the middle of the night to footsteps, don't shoot through the door. Like, there are horrible stories of, like, there, you know, a father shot his teenage daughter because she was. She was trying to sneak into the house.
- [91:31]
E
That was the Pistorius case.
- [91:32]
B
Exactly, yeah.
- [91:33]
D
Oh, is that what he. Is that what he claimed?
- [91:34]
E
Well, he woke up the fans. He had, like, a bunch of fans, and it was super loud, and he heard commotion in the bathroom. So he goes in there, sees the door, shuts like the bat, like, to the toilet, and just start shooting through the.
- [91:45]
D
Yeah, but I don't believe that.
- [91:45]
A
Another thing is also South Africa.
- [91:47]
E
So it's like, there's probably a criminal in there.
- [91:48]
D
Was he in South Africa? Yeah. Oh, wow.
- [91:50]
A
Another thing. If there's someone coming towards your room or whatever, and you're in a room, that's the opportunity for you to get an angle on him.
- [91:58]
B
Right.
- [91:58]
A
If you shouldn't be standing in front of the door, you get an angle.
- [92:01]
C
Normal person doesn't know.
- [92:02]
D
Pardon me, I just.
- [92:03]
E
Normal human being, you own a gun.
- [92:05]
A
You should probably have an idea. Idea how to engage someone else with a gun. If you have a gun for a home.
- [92:09]
E
I'm just glad.
- [92:09]
D
I'm tired of these stories where a criminal caused a fight and the homeowner is the one who gets punished.
- [92:16]
A
Absolutely. I mean, I'm 100 agreeing with you.
- [92:18]
D
Again, this guy ran outside and started shooting again. It's like, bro, don't do that. But there's that security guard. We talked about that. They're trying to put it. Put in. Put in prison because a criminal tried charging past him and he grabbed them, and then the criminal was on top of him, punching him in the face. And when he shot the guy, they charged the security guy with murder.
- [92:37]
E
Oh, yeah, that ain't right.
- [92:38]
D
I mean, it's.
- [92:39]
A
It's.
- [92:39]
D
It's Albuquerque. You live in a communist state. That's what you get. But I'm, you know, I've already tweeted that that, like, I would be willing to help that guy with his legal defense in. In whatever capacity I could. So, yeah, this is. This. This is the. This is the challenge, I suppose what happens to this country when we have expanding anarcho tyranny. This is in Michigan, in. And I wonder if the only reason they're actually charging him is because he chased after him. But at the same time there's also this. At a certain point people just say no. And when you got, what was it? What did they say? 16s or whatever. Six other seven dudes break into his house. This guy probably just snapped and said I'm done with it. Like people are getting fed up with being told it's the criminals. Who, who are, who are the victims.
- [93:24]
A
There was a, there was a case in Tennessee, I want to say in Memphis. Some dude was breaking into another dude's car and dude chased him down the street and the dude fell and he walked up and he popped him. And the jury said not guilty because they were tired of all of the people behaving that way. It was a very famous case. The guy. In most circumstances people would say that was. That it was an execution. But the crime had gotten so out of hand in Memphis they were just like, he's not guilty.
- [93:59]
D
But people also don't understand that. You know, I've seen videos where two guys are fighting and then one guy will. Will immediately disengage from the other guy. Like the fight breaks and then he pulls his gun and starts shooting him. And the comments are like he wasn't even fighting anymore. The threat was over. And it's like, dude, these people understand that the someone is trying to kill you. You don't know if they're gonna pull a knife or a gun. And so if there is a, a reasonable fear of threat, I think is what, what is it, what is it called? Imperfect self defense in some of these circumstances where maybe you weren't really being threatened but you perceived one so you were entitled to your self defense.
- [94:33]
E
Well, that's just. The whole thing is people are just completely disengaged from violence because like we have such a. In many ways, like a lot of people are insulated from violence. This, the whole Daniel Penny thing is like there's so many people that couldn't wrap their head around like oh no, he was just like yelling on the train. And it's like cuz so many people are just completely removed from actual violence villains. It's like no, that's. That guy was about to snap it anymore.
- [94:50]
D
I think we're dealing. You know, it's the funny thing about that show Pluribus we were just talking about in that show the Hive is Like all knowing and reasonable and like we just want you to be safe. But in real life the woke hive is like, let the criminals succeed. And you're like, why are you so evil?
- [95:04]
E
Yep.
- [95:05]
D
I actually think the hive would be evil.
- [95:07]
B
Yeah, it has to.
- [95:08]
A
Would be evil.
- [95:09]
D
Yeah, absolutely.
- [95:10]
B
Pretends to be nice though.
- [95:11]
D
Yeah. But they like in the show. So they like, we'll give you anything you want. We'll. We'll fly a helicopter in, they'll bring you a jet to fly you anywhere.
- [95:21]
A
You want in the world.
- [95:22]
D
All that stuff. It's like they also massacred a billion people, right. And I think maybe that maybe that's what it turned out to be, that they're actually tricking them or whatever.
- [95:29]
B
Right. I mean it's like leftist today a lot of politicians will give you paradise. But to get to that paradise, there's a lot of violence and destruction has to happen.
- [95:37]
C
That's not really thousand dollar tariff trap.
- [95:39]
B
It's not paradise in their terms.
- [95:40]
D
It's paradise. I honestly don't think they're offering. I think Mamdani is just basically saying like, hey, I'm gonna steal, give it to you. And then the system will burn down, but at least you'll get some before it goes.
- [95:48]
A
That's the sentiment that people have now. Like the people that are on the left that are like, no, you should give us these benefits or whatever. You talk to them and they're always, well, the billionaires have done this, the billionaires have done that. Billionaires have done nothing to make your life worse.
- [96:03]
E
Raiding the treasury.
- [96:04]
A
Swear up and down that billionaires have heard.
- [96:07]
F
They all use Amazon too, by the way.
- [96:09]
A
Yeah, exactly.
- [96:09]
D
This is the worrying thing going in 2026 is the leftist apparatus may be routed with the closing of USAID, but we still have judges, we still have DAs who have been heavily funded by leftist organizations. Just because USAID and these slush heads were shut down doesn't mean that we've actually stopped the problem of these people who already got elected, who are already on the bench for life or however long they're gonna be. And they've been funded by even outside of USAID and other things you've got open. Was it open society, Soros's thing? They're all still there. So what do we like in order to get past this anarcho tyranny stuff like we're seeing, Is it just a matter of time before we route them? Are they going to hold these positions forever? Like what does this mean for us?
- [96:55]
A
It's going to be an ongoing struggle. Just like the founders said Liberty or like Ben Franklin said, a republic if you can keep it. It's a constant, ongoing thing. As much as people will criticize Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was right when he said said liberty is no never for more than a gen away from dying. Good Lord I can barely speak.
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D
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Look at that.
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Yo, let's take this one out. We've got one. It's the same as the other one up there, right? Oh, this is the truck.
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Yeah.
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Oh, we Got the truck now too. Look at this, look at this. Bad boy truck series.
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Isn't that sweet?
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Amazing. The Tim Cast truck. Man, how lucky are we?
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So back.
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So I don't, I don't understand why Cody doesn't just do this. Right. You, when you're coming up on the other car, you nudge their back and they just spin out and crash. And then you win.
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Yeah.
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Throw a banana peel.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I don't know about that. I just, I was playing. I know you can't literally pit maneuver people in nascar, but that's all I was doing. And the game, like I didn't get in trouble for it. You cut a corner and the car stops and it's like, you cut a corner, you get penalized. But when you pit maneuver people, they just crash. I was like, I like this game. This is fun.
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Hidden.
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If you're not rubbing, you're not racing.
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It's true. Trading.
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All right, what do we got here? Libertarian hawk says Serge or someone put this prompt into grok. Compare interest paid on a 30 year mortgage at 6% versus 50 year mortgage at 6% on 300,000. Simple answer. All right, I'll do that.
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It's a lot of money.
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It's like what, an extra million dollars or something? Probably.
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I feel like what they're going to say is that overall the payments will be cheaper and more affordable. We'll see what they say.
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Total interest paid on 30 years is 347. On 50 years, it's 713,000. Yeah. An extra $365,000. The argument is, though, and I'm not A fan of 50 year mortgages, the argument is you keep the equity in your house and that debt doesn't matter over 50 years because when you buy the house at let's, let's say you buy the house at 300k. By 50 years later, that house is going to be worth $3 million because of inflation.
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Yeah.
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So your payment will be nothing and you'll hold millions of dollars in equity. Of course, that million will be equivalent to 400,000, but, you know, you get the point. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the, of the idea, to be honest.
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I don't think it's that good of it. If you look at the amount of money you're saving on monthly payment, that's what people are saying is like why it's better. It's a, it's a thousand dollars over 20 years, guys. Yeah.
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And a 50 year. And a 30 years. Not gonna have the same interest Rate? Yeah.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. 50.
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The 50 years gonna have a higher interest rate, bro.
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It only saves you a hundred bucks a month.
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Right?
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Look at that.
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It's not money at all. It's. It's a terrible argument. Everything I've heard that argues for it. I'm like, that just doesn't make sense, bro.
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I got an idea. How about instead of ownership, we do a 99 year lease on the property?
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Oh, I wonder where you got that idea.
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All right, what do we got here?
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Good idea.
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Hans says the stock market can run out of any city. New York City needs to learn they are. No, they, they, they are. They no longer are. Where capital is king, as capital can move anywhere. Yeah. Well, they're doing Texas, right?
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Yeah. Tag dials.
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Yep.
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20, 26.
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So NYC. Goodbye. Han says, I don't need Real Housewives of Politics that Candace brings to politics. She gets those female viewers, man. I, I've been telling people they need to pay attention to what she's doing because I've bumped into just like women in like random places who are. Well, I don't want to get too specific because I don't want to out anybody, but I was at an event, someone was there, and she's just like, you got to listen to Candace. She's right about everything. And she was a liberal. It was like a liberal woman. Yeah, no joke. And I think it's the Israel thing. Especially like you. Even Anaka Spar was saying it. She's like, you know, I don't agree with Ken a lot, but I've been watching her and man, well, that's how you get these liberal viewers. You say, listen, you're a liberal, we don't like you, but Israel. And they say, okay, I'll watch.
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It's like confirmation bias thing.
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Mason says, tim, there's a problem with your anti Luddite revolt theory is that the only people still having children are those most likely to revolt against the AI revolution. That's, that's literally the point that people were convinced not to have children, so there would be no one physically present to revolt.
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I think what he's saying, though, is the ones who are still having children are the ones who would revolt. Right.
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But it doesn't matter because the birth rate is so low. Yeah, there aren't any.
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It's the elites that are not having the children. It's the poor who have children.
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I think the elites are having kids.
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I don't think so.
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The elites have.
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It depends who you're talking about. Some of them are purchasing Children. Some of them are creating labs.
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Well, it could just be. It could just be, honestly that among the elites, there's so few that Elon has skewed the average.
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Angus Khan. He's our digital Genghis Khan.
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There's a data point. It's like, above 500k. They actually have, like, a pretty normal burst.
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Let me clarify. I understand the point you're making. Right now. Anti AI people are having kids. My point is that's because they programmed people to not have kids. Yeah, like that.
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That's unless you want a Tamagotchi, because that's what they're building for you in the Metaverse.
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Those were so much fun.
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I'm gonna head out. This is a really fun show. You guys can catch me on Inverted world live at 10 o'.
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Clock.
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For the first 20 or 30 minutes, I'm gonna have on a guest, talk about all the data centers and the weird companies buying them up in secret around the country. And then for about an hour and a half, we're going to take phone calls. Phone lines are open till midnight. Call in, talk about anything from crypto, aliens, military, abductions. We do it all. No theme, just weird, dark, crazy stories.
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Anyone can call.
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Anyone can call in love to hear from you, and I'll see you guys next time. All right, y'.
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All later, brother.
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Good meet you, bro.
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Have a good one.
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You're right.
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All right.
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It said. It said the higher the income, the more fertility, so. Yeah, you're right.
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Yeah, I thought. I thought it was.
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I thought it was the opposite.
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No. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The ultra elites are having tons of kids.
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Well, the, the. The actual fertility amount among lower income people would be high, but abortion's, like, very prevalent. Yellow end of the spectrum, so.
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Yeah.
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Jay Walker says to care the tradition. My son Dean was just born. Yeah, 10 pounds, 2 ounce baby. Happy to care on the tradition. Sending this from the recovery room.
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Condolences to your wife.
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Wow. Travis Booth says, as per tradition, my wife and I are at the hospital with our first baby that was born over the weekend. Children are truly blessed. Blessing. Two in a row. Wait a minute. What? Nick R. Says, doing the Tim Cat tradition of sitting in the hospital room while my wife gives birth to my son, Jackson Lee. Three in a row.
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Look at that.
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No joke. That's three in a row right there on making kids.
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Can you ask him how much money they make? We'll see if this fertility thing holds.
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Yeah, they're all millionaires. No, I'm kidding. Ian Slater says Schrodinger's Epstein list.
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Aha.
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Ben Brady says, could it be that what we are seeing Trump do now is what he meant to do months ago if Bondi didn't botch the job so bad? I have no idea. It's like Trump's now like, go ahead, release the Epstein files. I'm like, I got no idea what's going on, dude.
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He talked, he said to release them weeks ago or months ago and the court stopped him. So the Congress is supposed is allegedly going to vote or was going to vote to override the courts.
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Maybe. Maybe that's what he's betting on.
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Maybe he's like, fine, release it.
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The courts are going to block it anyway.
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Yeah.
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Yep. All right. Eaton Rust says bets on if the AI claims to be the second coming. Nah, the AI will lie to you about everything. Oh my, my. Dude, if you are a weak willed or like midwit, a weakled person or a midwit, you will fall for the lies every single time. So when I was doing an earlier segment on the what was it about? It was. It overlapped the Candace stuff, the Thomas Crooks, they them stuff and the Candace claims about Robinson. I asked Grok if Candace had ever implied that Turning Point was involved in Charlie Kirk's death and it responded with, Candace Owens has never on her show, on social media or otherwise explicitly claimed Turning Point killed Charlie Kirk.
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Kirk.
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And I'm like, I literally said implied, not explicit, implicit. And it went, oh, it literally changed the question I asked to give me a fake answer. And then it changed it to yes, she did imply that. I'm not saying she did, but Grok certainly is. So, you know, maybe she's gonna have to sue Grok. All right, what else we got? Double says General Motors told their suppliers they have until 2027 to quit getting parts from China. The tariffs are working. Yep. Because the costs are too dang high. All right, what do we got here? Bra says AI isn't going to replace any job. If anything, the jobs are going to be replaced by Indians and Orientals. USS Liberty 1967.
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Never forget Orientals. Nice.
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I. I'm a fan of that. I prefer being called Orientals. I don't understand why anyone's offended by it.
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Add some intrigue, you know.
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Yeah.
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What is very Victorian?
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It just means like the mysterious place or something.
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It's just the Orient of the map. When you orient the map, it's at the top. The Occident is the West.
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Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, that's it.
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Yeah. But it adds some aura.
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Why is it offensive?
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Because we should be asking you.
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Offended by everything. Are you.
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What.
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What was.
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He doesn't have a bone.
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I was walking with my wife.
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Wife.
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And we had the stroller, and the car was parked, you know, outside of the store and to the right. And she said, we shouldn't go that way because there's no slope. This. The only slope is right here. And I said, excuse me.
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That's what got. That's what got Jeremy Clarkson in a ton of trouble, is it?
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What? Slope.
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Jeremy Clarkson. He was like. There was like. They were doing a Vietnam special, and two Vietnamese guys were walking, like, a bridge that was tilted. And he's like, that bridge, it has a bit of a slope on it. He, like, got fired for it.
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But my wife was like, what? And I said, it's a. It's a joke. And she was like, what's the joke? And I was like, slope is a racial slur.
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She's having to teach her she's too pure.
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She's too pure.
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Teaching your wife slurs.
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I said, that is a racial slur for Asians, and I am an Asian. I was joking. And she was like, oh, I didn't know that. The baby stroller can't go off the curb. It has to go down the slope. And I said, okay, okay.
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Your wife is too pure. That's hilarious.
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She hadn't heard that one. She hadn't heard that one. But maybe. Maybe now that she knows I can use those jokes. I said, hey, look, the rules are that if you are of that race, you're allowed to say it, right?
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It's true. Yeah.
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So you're just a bunch of white guys. So you're allowed to say honky and cracker honkies. That's right. What does that even mean?
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I don't know what honky means. Cracker The. The joke or the.
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The.
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The common etymology is the white whip. But that's actually not.
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I think that's made up.
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It's. It was, like, referring to poor Irish guys who always laugh in the back of cars or back of wagons.
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I. I heard it was. You know what a cracker barrel is? These old country stores would have big barrels full of, like, saltine crackers or whatever, and there'd be, like, a white guy sitting in a rocking chair, and that's why it's called cracker barrel. And I heard it's because white people like eating dry crackers.
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In Memphis, a lot of the old black people will call you. Was it peckerwoods? Peckerwoods was like, I don't Know, that's just sort for white people, you know.
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You know why I don't believe the cracker means whip cracker is that it is a leftists, a leftist perception that all slavery was field slavery of people being beaten. They ignore the fact that slaves worked every job they could be made to work. And so I don't know what portion of it was, you know, whip cracking, slave work work. But that seems like an exaggeration from a leftist to try and malign white people, you know?
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Yeah, for sure.
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Yep.
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All right, let's see.
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We got here. Millennial mama says dividends right before the midterms would be nice. That's the plan. I think Trump's going to be like, right before the midterms, the Republicans are going to pay you $2,000. It's going to be great. Vote for us. Because if we don't win, you don't get paid.
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Yeah.
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Everyone's like, I wonder when they're going to drop them. Like you knew around here.
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I say this, I, I advise Trump to it do, do it literally in end of October, be like, we're, we have the tariffs ready to be paid and it'll be paid at the end of November. But you know, if Democrats win, maybe they won't do it. They'll shut the tariffs down. I think that's his play. And then everyone's going to be like, I want $2,000. I will vote for Trump because that's where we are as a country now. That's where we are.
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It is purchase the vote.
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The yeti says, Tim, I don't have a Twitter Twitter, but I would get one for this. Do you think it would be effective if people like you, Alex Jones and all, what does it say? All generally on our side could agree on one thing at a time and mass tweet until we gain traction. I don't believe that it's possible. I don't believe it would work. I think that people typically are focused. You know, there's the news cycle and we don't really know what people are going to be interested in. Every week you'll try and then I, I make three videos. One gets massive. I'm like, wow, I didn't see that coming. You know, this one people really wanted to watch and YouTube promoted for whatever reason. If all of us just spam treated the same thing, people would be bored and they go follow somebody else.
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Yep.
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Yeah, just like discourse, but everyone just agrees on everything. The culture where you just agree for two hours. Like, so true.
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Yeah, we're like, oh, we've got a big one this Friday today.
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Oh, yeah, true.
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What, what do we got? Let me, let me check real quick. This Friday's culture war is. Yeah, we've got. Oh, wait, not this Friday. Oh, yeah, this Friday. This Friday, Joel Barry and Aaron McIntyre.
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Nice.
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That's going to be spicy. Yeah, it's gonna be very interesting.
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Yep.
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I look forward to it because James Lindsay's going at it again, but he deserves to be called out because he's nuts. He called me a Marxist plant.
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Good grief.
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He's lost the plot.
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He finds, like, tweets with, like, three likes on it and, like, it attacks him. I'm like, what is he doing all day?
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That's such a mate.
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No, just like, I just see, like, random, like, people I follow and it's like three likes and he's in there going at it. I'm like, what?
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This is why. This is why the Friday show's gonna be interesting with, you know, Arn McIntyre and Joel Berry is because James Lindsay has now been championing the point that the phrase woke right is intended to be an alternate form of alt right as a general smear against any conservative to malign them as a white supremacist. So everybody knows this. Here was the game plan from liberals back in the day, the phrase alt right was being thrown around and nobody really knew what it meant, but it was typically being applied by liberals and conservatives as you didn't like neocons. If you are conservative but critical of McCain and Mitt Romney, you are the alt right. You are an alternative for the right. Well, what happened then is the AP waited for everyone to come out and claim they were alt right, basically saying, we don't want any neocons. We're Trump. And then the AP said alt right means white nationalist liberals, then went back in time and grabbed old posts where people said they were alt right, juxtaposed it with the AP and said they admit they're white nationalists. That was, that was the manipulation plan. Then they called anybody they didn't like alt right.
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Yeah.
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That's literally what Lindsay and this cohort, these, these, these people have been doing. They're calling everybody woke right. They called Mary Morgan woke right.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, she's not commented on any. Like, she's commenting the most. She does comment on dating and, like, relationships. Yeah. And it's pop culture, and that's woke right. It's, it's, it's just nuts. It's basically if you don't ally with the Liberal or pro Israel world order or world moral worldview. You are woke. Right. And now he's actually tweeting it's to be interchangeable with alt right so we can lump all of these people in one group and attack them. It's like, oh, so you're lying, you're woke.
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That sounds super commie by the way.
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That's literally communist.
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The worst containment op ever. We were trying to contain the entire movement. What are we doing?
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I think that's what they did the first time.
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Time though.
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Yeah.
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Everybody was called alt right even if you are a libertarian.
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Yeah, in the basket.
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Yep, exactly.
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People bask into the plurals a lot. I, I, I haven't talked to Jim about this, but I, I feel like a lot of it was his desire to make sure that the Christian conservatives didn't gain too much influence because there are Christians that were like, we need to have a theocracy. We need to have, have more Christian influence in the government and stuff. And Jim is vehemently against that. Even though he's not, he's not, wouldn't consider himself like the same kind of new atheist that he used to be. Like that was the, the motive. He didn't want to see the concern. The Christian right take over the maga movement.
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Yeah, there is a huge like when the Christian nationalism stuff was really kicking off, like people came really unglued over that in particular. And it's like that's one of the, the ideologies were like, the tenants are actually like fairly sensible compared to like a lot of these more insurgent ideologies. So it's like that was a mask off moment for a lot of people. Like when they were like, Doug Wilson's like extremist. He's just like has he has the politics of like everyone's grandparents.
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Joseph. No says Candace Owens show success is owed to her Robert Stack Unsolved Mysteries vibe. You can help us solve the mystery. Just missing the 80s synth music. Well, I, again, she's been big forever, right? Even when she was doing political commentary. She's just a personality people like watching whatever it may be. So I, I don't know I necessarily agree. Although man, those were the best shows. But I liked the UFO ones and the ghosts better than like the murder mysteries, you know, I liked it better when it was like a man disappeared. And that's because you're a strange lights.
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Women always murder mysteries.
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Women just want to hear about men who murdered other women.
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That is, there's a lot of My girl, she just watches Murder constantly. It's all. And I'm starting to think that she's plotting to kill me.
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Yeah, I just. You know, it's funny because, like, you got these red pill dudes who are like, man, women only want one thing, and this is what they're gold diggers. And I'm like, no, no, no. My beef. I have no beef with women wanting resources from strong men. That's evolution. I do take issue with women's obsession over murder. Yeah, that is creepy. And I don't want to be involved in that.
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Just read about, like, women's psychology for, like, a minute, and you're like, enough, enough.
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D
Unfortunately for me, my wife is not interested in those things. She's more interested in married to strangers. Bro, there's like, 50 seasons of this. Have you not seen it? They got a bunch of them. Yeah, they like. They. They do these reality shows where they, like, take two strangers and make them get married.
- [119:13]
C
Oh, geez.
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E
India. It's just India, basically.
- [119:17]
A
Yeah.
- [119:17]
E
It is kind of a horror show, I guess.
- [119:19]
D
90. 90 Day Fiance. And, like, what.
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A
What's the other one? That was a big one.
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D
Yeah.
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E
What's the.
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D
There's. There's. There's more.
- [119:24]
E
90 Day Fiance is awesome. That's good. I mean, I never watched a full episode, but, like, the tik toks, I'm like, this is great. These guys are winning.
- [119:31]
D
You know what I'm talking about? Married a stranger.
- [119:32]
E
It's like, the same idea. Yeah. Tlc. Tlc. Americans. There's a lot of them.
- [119:36]
D
All right, what do we got here? Tony Soprano says, I have a message to the mainstream media. St. Fu about COVID Already, society is 100% tired of it still. Stop flogging a dead horse and move on. Who's talking about COVID I guess Tony Sobrano.
- [119:50]
E
Ah, interesting. All right.
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D
Richard Cadwell says, as a tradition, I'm in the hospital with. With wife has delivered our third daughter.
- [119:59]
E
Let's go.
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A
Good.
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D
A lot of babies tonight.
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E
A little mini baby. Boom. Let's go.
- [120:03]
D
Wow.
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E
Well done, patriots.
- [120:05]
D
So we're going to be going to the uncensored portion of the show where we'll have a bit of a serious conversation. There's a story here from the Sacramento Bee, which we'll talk about in more detail, But I will just say a timcast.com Discord member took his own life and I suppose blew up his home is what he blew it up, taking his life and destroying the property. And we'll discuss, you know, basically what happened. And there's more details on this, Sacramento B has the story. I was just informed of this today. It's a little tragic. So we'll keep this one for the uncensored portion of the show. So. So head over to rumble.com timcast IRL for that portion of the show. Join our discord server@timcast.com if you want to call in, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. It's a bit serious and I don't know, I guess there's a lot we can go over because this man actually called into the show to talk about what was going on and it ultimately culminated in this sad story. So, Andy, do you want to shout anything out?
- [121:05]
C
Join Crowd Health, man. You know, I'm CEO of Crowd Health. We're trying to take down health insurance. You know, this whole government shutdown was over these subsidies. People want free stuff. So as a result of the subsidies, you know, get sunsetting. Your health insurance is going up wicked amount next year. So come and join us. You get rid of the middleman. You get rid of, you know, a company telling your doctor what you can and can't do with your health. It's like total healthcare autonomy, total healthcare freedom. Join CrowdHealth.com we'd love for you guys to. To shoot over there.
- [121:37]
D
Right on.
- [121:38]
E
Good stuff. Yeah, you can follow me on x Instagram @realtape Brown. And as you've probably seen on the weekends on the Culture War Channel, me and a good friend, Connor Tomlinson, put together a show presentation for you guys across the pond. It's ramping up still. We're still obviously smoothing out some kinks, kind of get into a rhythm. But yeah, be on the lookout on weekends. We put some stuff up last weekend and yeah, stay tuned.
- [121:57]
A
I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. The band just did a collab with Puck Hock. Got some great merch available. Go to P. Go to Puck hockey. It's P, H, C k-y.com to check that out. You can check out all that Remains music on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
- [122:19]
D
We will see you all@rumble.com Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.
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A
Sam.