DOJ CONFIRMS Don Lemon, Leftists, To Face Charges For Storming Church w/ Nick Fuentes

Summary

Timcast IRL — January 20, 2026

DOJ CONFIRMS Don Lemon, Leftists, To Face Charges For Storming Church w/ Nick Fuentes

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Episode Overview

In this heated episode, Tim Pool and the Timcast IRL crew examine the bombshell news that the DOJ, under public comments by Harmeet Dhillon, has confirmed intentions to pursue charges against Don Lemon and a group of leftist activists for “storming” a church in Minneapolis. The episode is centered on the legal, political, and cultural fallout from this event, juxtaposing it with the perceived double standard in law enforcement regarding left- and right-wing protestors. Guest Nick Fuentes joins a lively panel (including Ian Crossland, Tate Brown, and Phil Labonte) to dissect these headlines, wade into the ongoing breakdown of public order in cities like Minneapolis, and explore broader issues like demographic change, racial politics, Israel, and conservative infighting.

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Key Discussion Points

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1. The Don Lemon/Church Storming Story

• [00:40] Host Tim Pool opens by calling the situation the "epitome of irony" that Don Lemon — a “gay black man” — faces criminal charges on MLK Day under the KKK Act:

  • “We live in a simulation. There’s no way any of this is real.”

• Lemon is accused of participating with a group of leftist activists who “stormed” a church during mass, potentially violating the FACE Act and the KKK Act.

• Harmeet Dhillon (DOJ) has gone on-record saying they are assembling charges.

• Lemon’s defense centers on journalism and First Amendment claims, which hosts and guests argue don't apply if you knowingly abet a crime.

  “Don Lemon being part of a group that broke into a church violates 1A. It is not 1A itself, like he tried to claim.” — Tim Pool [00:40]

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2. Legal Analysis & Parallels to J6/Charlottesville

• [06:02] Harmeet Dhillon (clip):

  “We will pursue charges in this case... The FACE Act has been mentioned as one of the predicates... Who funded this? Did anyone cross state lines to do this? All of those are potential predicates for additional federal charges.”

• Tim Pool lays out the prosecutorial double standard, contrasting slow-walking on Left violence versus shock-and-awe tactics used on right-wingers (Charlottesville, Jan 6).
• Panel discusses whether Lemon’s participation would be treated differently if he was covering a right-wing action (e.g., storming into a synagogue).
• Nick Fuentes [11:22]:

  “...the reason these people are so bold... is because there's never any consequences for the left... With the right, they just get the book thrown at them... I think you gotta crush them. You gotta make an example out of them.”

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3. Debate Over Penalties and Martyrdom

• Panelists raise concerns over possible overcharging and turning Lemon into a free speech “martyr.”

• Tim Pool’s take:

  “I think Don Lemon should get a slap on the wrist... Six months court supervision. Thank you, and have a nice day.” [14:30]

• Phil Labonte argues:

  “...throw the book at him, though, because it will actually set a precedent...” [16:54]

• Consensus forms that the activists should face stiffer charges than Lemon for leading the action.

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4. The FACE Act, KKK Act, & Legal Irony

• Panel relishes the poetic “irony” of the KKK Act being used against Don Lemon.

  “It would be like a really beautiful poetic thing... get a gay black guy charged on MLK Day with the Klan Act.” — Tate Brown [23:01]

• Primer on the FACE Act:

  “...protects access to reproductive health care facilities and places of religious worship. It prohibits the use of force, threats, force, physical obstruction or property damage...” — Phil Labonte [21:41]

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5. Minneapolis: Civil Unrest & Media Gaslighting

• Ongoing chaos in Minneapolis is discussed:

  • Storming churches, beating/harassing pedestrians, property destruction, leftists acting as vigilantes and “de facto” authorities (demanding people pull over, present credentials, etc.)

• New York Times headline: “In Minneapolis, I glimpsed the civil war.”

• Pool criticizes fact-checkers for denying documented events.

  “We are getting to the point where you're gonna walk down the street and some leftist... is gonna say 'you're being detained. We're in control now.’” — Tim Pool [54:20]

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6. Political Double Standards & The 2026 Election Cycle

• Discussion turns to coming midterms and the inevitability of Democrat resurgence if current trends continue.
• Nick Fuentes:

  “The left does not play. They said, you know, 'we need fu Democrats.' That's all they've ever been... And we are all toast when that happens.” [56:24]

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7. Race, Demographics, and National Identity Debate

• Extended exchange (with Fuentes center stage) on how demographic change, DEI policies, and “white affinity groups” are fostering a future surge in "white identity politics."
• Fuentes argues:

  “The diversification of America makes that an inevitability because people define themselves by distinction... Now they're starting to say, no, I'm a white person in a diverse country... You almost become more white the less white the country becomes.” [32:34]

• Detailed debate over whether culture, race, or both are at the root of America’s challenges; comparison of assimilation, segregation, and how “liberal experiments” at integration have failed in real-world urban settings.
• Tim Pool reflects:

  “You can talk about how the world is supposed to be... These realities exist and all these liberals that are trying to say blank slate and otherwise, I just say to them, look, I’m never gonna hold someone back because of their race. Prop them up... But you’re not gonna be able to advance this realistically when you can go to any city and people choose to segregate based on race.” [45:44]

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8. Israel, Conservatism, & Media Realignment

• Pool and Fuentes agree there’s a major realignment underway: establishment figures are shifting right, while anti-Zionist arguments are being “poisoned” via extreme voices like Candace Owens.

• Discussion of Israel’s role in US foreign policy, the “liberal economic order,” and connections between military choke points (Suez, Panama, Greenland) and the defense of Israel.

  “...so much of the pro Israel stuff has a home in the GOP. They're inextricable. You don’t get one without the other. And my issue with it is that a lot of Republicans think we are making a deal…” — Nick Fuentes [76:59]

• Tim Pool suggests the right is becoming the new establishment; the system exerts pressure on Trump and others to perpetuate, not challenge, the status quo.

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9. Candace Owens, Conspiracy, and Controlled Opposition

• In-depth discussion on Owens’ recent, highly conspiratorial pivots (e.g., “Charlie Kirk is a murdered time traveler”), her usefulness in “poisoning the well” of anti-Zionism.

• Tim Pool:

  “Candace is capturing the anti Zionist faction and saying stupid retard things... They want the moderates, the Tim Pools, the Joe Rogans to be like, ‘oh, what CBS is doing is fantastic.’ Run by a proud Zionist... This says to me that I’m not so sure Democrats get into power and actually start doing all of these arrests.” [67:36]

• Cites operation techniques like "well poisoning" and letting the “kooks” dominate the conversation to discredit rational opposition.

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10. Complaints of Conservative Inaction

• Repeated frustration from Fuentes that Trump/right-wing elites lack resolve to deliver on base priorities (“mass deportations, crushing the left”).
• Nick Fuentes:

  “...the right was never more powerful than... 2024. When Trump gets in power, it's the opposite... The left probably would have gotten charged up anyway... But you know, by the way, Trump is getting rich off this... Meanwhile, you got this kind of stuff going on. And it's like at the end of the day, Trump can pardon himself and all his people. We don't get pardons. We're boned.” [61:57]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

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Don Lemon & Legal Irony

• Tim Pool [00:40]:
  "Don Lemon, a gay black man, is facing criminal charges on MLK Day for violating the KKK Act. And I have no words. I can only say we live in a simulation."
• Tate Brown [23:01]:
  “If we can get a gay black guy charged on MLK Day with the Klan act, I mean, it’d be like a really beautiful poetic thing.”
• Phil Labonte [21:41]:
  “The FACE Act... prohibits the use of force threats, force, physical obstruction or property damage to interfere with individuals making or seeking providing reproductive health services or exercising their first amendment right to religious freedom. This is a slam dunk.”

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On Double Standard

• Nick Fuentes [18:40]:
  “There’s never any accountability with the right... But the left knows they get away with literally murder and every other thing. So I think you got to crush them... the next time people think twice and say, I don’t know, should we storm the church?”
• Phil Labonte [16:54]:
  “...throwing the book at him, though, is because it will actually set precedent that the administration is going to come down. Right now, [the administration] has a very bad track record so far.”

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On Racial & Demographic Politics

• Nick Fuentes [32:34]:
  “I think that the diversification of America makes that an inevitability because people define themselves by distinction.”
• Tim Pool [45:44]:
  “You can say anything you want about racism... These realities exist and all these liberals that are trying to say blank slate and otherwise, I just say to them, look, I’m never gonna hold someone back because of their race... But you’re not gonna be able to advance this realistically when you can go to any city and people choose to segregate based on race.”

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On Media Poisoning

• Tim Pool [67:36]:
  “Candace Owens is capturing the anti Zionist faction and saying stupid retard things. CBS News is targeting the moderates... This says to me that I’m not so sure Democrats get into power and actually start doing all of these arrests.”
• Nick Fuentes [76:59]:
  “...so much of the pro Israel stuff has a home in the GOP. They're inextricable. You don’t get one without the other.”

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On Right-Wing Inaction

• Nick Fuentes [61:57]:
  “Trump can pardon himself and all his people. We don't get pardons. We're boned. Like, when the left gets in, there's no refuge. We're just screwed.”
• Tim Pool [58:18]:
  “You know, I don't think we should send in the troops. I'll tell you why. The left, the communist momentum, wants the government to establish a fascist crackdown so they can say, 'see, we told you they're fascist.'"

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Timestamped Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Summary/Highlight | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:40 | Don Lemon/Church story intro | Irony of Klan Act prosecution of Lemon | | 06:02 | Harmeet Dhillon DOJ segment | Announcement of intent to prosecute Lemon & leftist activists | | 11:22 | Fuentes: Double standard in prosecutions | “There’s never any consequences for the left” | | 14:30 | “Slap on the wrist” debate | What actual punishment is appropriate for Lemon? | | 23:01 | Irony of Klan Act / poetic justice | Tate Brown’s “beautiful poetic thing” | | 32:34 | White identity/ demographic change | “You almost become more white the less white the country becomes.” | | 45:44 | Pool on urban racial politics & failed integration | “People choose to segregate based on race.” | | 56:24 | 2026 midterms/ political forecasts | Fuentes: “We're all toast when that happens.” | | 67:36 | Pool on Candace Owens & “poisoning the well” | “CBS News is targeting the moderates who left the left…” | | 76:59 | Pro-Israel GOP alliance | “So much of the pro Israel stuff has a home in the GOP. They're...inextricable.” |

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Episode Tone and Language

Tim Pool maintains his skeptical, sardonic tone, emphasizing the irony, confusion, and double standards in current politics (“We live in a simulation...”). Nick Fuentes comes off as combative and direct, pushing unapologetically right-wing and identitarian talking points, often challenging the panel’s assumptions. The extended panel conversation is brash, frequently abrasive and highly uncensored, reflecting the “IRL” brand.

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Conclusion

This episode of Timcast IRL dives deep into the legal and cultural chaos engulfing America in 2026, with the Don Lemon church story serving as a flashpoint for wider debates about the rule of law, biased prosecution, demographic change, the future of the Right, and the persistent influence of Israel on American politics. At every turn, the tension between taking principled stands and simply retaliating against the other political tribe is front and center, with no easy answers on the horizon.

For anyone wanting a raw, unfiltered look at the current right-of-center worldview — including its deep fissures and controversies — this episode provides a comprehensive, timestamped view of the issues and arguments animating American political life in 2026.

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For more, see the uncensored aftershow on Rumble.

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[A]

In what might be the epitome of irony, Don Lemon, a gay black man, is facing criminal charges on MLK Day for violating the KKK Act. And I have no words. I can only say that we live in a simulation. There's no way any of this is real. And in all seriousness, jokes aside, Don Lemon was part of a group that stormed into a church that potentially violated the Face act and the KKK Act. Harmony Dillon of the DOJ said they are going to pursue charges. And Don Lemon's claim of it's just journalism won't. Won't cut it. Cuz there's potentially conspiracy charges in here as well. This is a wild story. Now a lot of people think it's not going to happen. They're not really going to charge the guy. I don't know if I'm so sure. I mean, harmeet dilly Harmeet. Dylan is not screwing around. If there's anybody I think in the DOJ actually wants to make moves and harm. Dylan's specialty being protection of one A religious freedom. A lot of people are arguing that Don Lemons. This is free speech. Wrong. Don Lemon being part of a group that broke into a church violates 1A. It is not 1A itself like he tried to claim. But we're gonna get into all that. Plus Holy crap. Everything going on in Minneapolis. The New York Times published a story, an opinion piece saying, in Minneapolis, I glimpsed a civil war. They've changed the headline. I think people are a little shocked by it, but indeed we are seeing pedestrians beaten. The storming of a church has already mentioned leftists are going around stalking vehicles and telling them to pull over. There's a video of engineers being accused of being ICE agents. They harass and beat a random guy for simply supporting ice. It is getting absolutely insane. So we'll talk about that and a whole lot more before we do. My friends, make sure you go to cast brew.com and pick up some delicious Cast Brew coffee. Now, of course, everyone's favorite Appalachian Nights. It's a delicious dark blend. I blended this myself, no joke. We got a bunch of samples. I know what I like. I mixed them around, find the. Found the appropriate measurements. And then I said, this is it. And this wasn't even supposed to be our flagship. It was meant to be just kind of like my choice. We actually wanted the Roberto rise with Roberto Jr. To be our lead know brand. And then this took off. And then Ian comes in and says, I want a low acidity coffee. So we. We brewed that and it took off. So check out Appalachian Nights Graphene Dream. We also have the flavored Highlanders Grog Rum Runners roast. Definitely check that one as well. It's delicious. But more importantly, smash the like button. Share the show with every single person you've ever met. Literally, I just take the URL, send it to grandma, send it to your niece and nephew if they're old enough to watch content like this, and your next door neighbor, go knock on their door and say, hey, are you watching Tim Kast? You should be joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. We've got Nick Fuentes.

[B]

Hi. What's going on?

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[B]

Yay.

[A]

Right. But who are you? What do you do for those that might not know?

[B]

Well, yeah, I'm Nick Fuentes. I do a show called America first on Rumble Monday through Friday. I'm a live streamer, and I'm the leader of the Groiper movement.

[A]

Well, right on. We finally got you on the show. It'll be interesting. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of angry people, but, you know, it'll be fun.

[B]

Yeah, I'm excited to be here.

[A]

You requested Ian be here as well?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I love this guy.

[E]

Yeah, man. We talk about fractals. We're Getting into it earlier today, maybe deeper. As the night goes on, we'll see.

[B]

Where it takes us.

[E]

Particularly, I'd like to talk about geopolitical strategy with you. I feel like some people think they see, like, the boisterous or the performative stuff and they think that you're not serious, but you're actually a brilliant, like, strategist as far as I can tell.

[A]

Thanks.

[E]

I always appreciate your work, man. I appreciate what you're doing and. But I want to know more. You know, we talk about Zionism and Israel and Judaism and all the world. Tate Brown, talk me through to the next step.

[F]

What is going on? Patriots, We've got quite a show tonight. I'm excited, but, yeah, just happy to be here. Phil, what's going on?

[A]

Hello, everybody.

[D]

My name is Phil Abonti. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it here.

[A]

Here's the big news from the day. We've got Don Lemon responding to Trump's DOJ threat. The Trump DOJ's threat. Sorry, stands by his coverage of anti ice protests at Minnesota Church. So we got to slow down and go through where this all begins, and we've got a lot to break down. And this image, I think, really does exemplify it. A group of leftist extremists stormed into a church, disrupting mass and. And freaking a lot of people out. This photo's gone particularly viral of a scared and crying child with his parents. This is a crime, in fact, and a lot of people are calling for Don Lemon to face charges. Now, appearing on the Benny Johnson show earlier today, Harmeet Dillon confirmed they're pursuing charges and that Don Lemon has no excuse. So to set this up, after tons of people on the right said he should be charged, Don Lemon, all these leftists, but also Don Lemonade Lemon came out and said, I followed a group in and I did journalism. Well, here's what Harmeet Dhillon had to say.

[G]

We will pursue charges in this case. I see. I see various crimes that have occurred. Exactly what they are, I'm not going to flag, but the Face act has been mentioned as one of the predicates there. In other cases, the Biden DOJ used the Klan act, conspiracy charges tacked on to the face act in the case of protests outside abortion clinics to bring much longer sentences. So there are a number of tools available to us. Who funded this? What else? What other crimes may have occurred? Was there a use of the wires or the males. In preparing for this event, did anyone cross state lines to do this? All of those are potential predicates for additional federal charges.

[A]

Now she goes on later. Let me see if I can jump to the part where she gets to Don Lemon specifically, which is where it gets interesting. Because initially it's like, okay, she just saying all of them, and he's wrapped up in this. And then let me see if I want to scroll. I should get the timestamps. There we go.

[G]

Don Lemon himself has come out and said he knew exactly what was going to happen inside that facility. He went into the facility and then he began, quote, unquote, committing journalism. And as if that's sort of a shield from being a part, an embedded part of a criminal conspiracy. It isn't. And so, you know, we're getting our ducks in a ro. We're putting the facts together, and this is a very serious matter.

[A]

Following this, we've got a little bit more to add on to the issue as well. Let me see if I have the tweet pulled up. Here we go. This is what Don Lemon said in a stream before going in that people are claiming are saying is incriminating into.

[H]

Minneapolis a little bit ago and did some. Some reconnaissance on the ground, speaking to an organization there that's gearing up to. For resistance and protest. I've been surprised, pleasantly surprised, to see the community coming together, diverse community. If you see this, when we first pulled up, we're like, wait a minute, which operation are we at? And as it turns out, because we're like, well, this is kind of MAGA coded, right? Saw the American flag or whatever. But these are resistance protesters. They're planning an operation that we're going to follow them on. I can't tell you exactly what they're doing, but it's called Operation Pull up. And it's the Kima Armstrong. And she has been doing this since George Floyd, Dante Wright and others, where they surprise people, catch them off guard and hold them to account. And so that's what we're doing here. And then we're after that. After we do this operation, you'll see it live. And these, these operations are surprise operations. Again, can't tell you where they're going.

[A]

So this is that. That was what he said in the beginning of the stream. He's now responded. Let's pull up his response. Don Leman stands by his reporting. Quote, it's notable that I've been cast as the face of a protest I was covering as a list, especially since I Wasn't the only reporter there. That framing is telling. What's even more telling is the barrage of violent threats, along with homophobic and racist slurs directed at me by online MAGA supporters and amplified by parts of the right wing press. If this much time energy is going to be spent manufacturing outrage, it would be far better used investigating the tragic death of Renee.

[B]

Nicole.

[A]

Nicole good. The very issue that brought people into the streets in the first place. I stand by reporting now, he had made comments saying this was a First Amendment issue. DON lemon DEFENSE Storming he says this is what the First Amendment is about, the freedom to protest. I'm sure people here don't like it, but protests are not comfortable. Well, I got bad news for you, Don. The FACE act says you can't protest at abortion clinics or places of worship, and it was intended to protect abortion clinics, clinics, not places of worship. So when he comes out and says this was the First Amendment, the First Amendment doesn't protect your right to storm onto private property and disrupt what they're doing, especially protected groups. These are your rules. These are. These are social progressive rules about protected categories. The. The one A that was violated here was the churchgoers who are minding their own business on private property. So it's. It's not going to fly. But the one point I want to bring up, and I'll throw to the panel, the question is this. Simply put, I'll give you. I'll give you a handful of scenarios. There's a bank robbery about to take place, and a guy says on camera, hey, these guys I just met are gonna rob a bank. I'm gonna go with them and film what they're doing as they do it. Okay. Will that person be criminally charged after the bank? Robbie? Absolutely. There's no question he's gonna go in. They're gonna say, you had advanced knowledge of a crime that was being committed. You sought to benefit yourself off it through filming whatever you were doing. That's insane. Now, if the same guy in a different scenario said, I know a bunch of people are gonna go obstruct a roadway, they're gonna stand an intersection and link arms together, would that guy be charged? No, it's civil disobedience. The issue is not whether or not you had foreknowledge of a crime, it's the degree of the crime. So Don Lemon had advanced knowledge of a potential felony conspiracy against Rights, KK Klan Act. And he said, I am going to go in with these people onto private property without permission to film and call it journalism. So I think he is gonna face charges. But the big question and the easy question now, which I can throw to Nick, is what do you think would happen if a bunch of gripers announced they were going to storm into a synagogue and someone who was in support of the gripers said, I'm going to go and film it all? Do you think that guy would be charged?

[B]

Absolutely. And that has happened. You know, it's funny because the other major use of the KKK act during the Biden admin was against Charlottesville protesters. Actually, Charlottesville was in 2017, and I don't know the exact year, but during the Biden admin, you had people being charged six, five, six years later with the KKK act, saying, because they were carrying literally just a lit torch in public on a street, on a sidewalk, that made it intimidation. That made it a violation of the statute. They threw him in jail. And I would say that this is my frustration with the whole administration. Just put them in jail, just arrest them. Because when Biden was president and January 6 happened and they locked people up for Charlottesville, they. They didn't have Merrick Garland going on Rachel Maddow and saying, well, you know, there's a predicate and here's how we're gonna justify it, and blah, blah, blah. They did shock and awe. That was literally the phraseology they use. Shock and awe. Were coming in the middle of the night to the e celebs, the influencers, and we're gonna throw the book at him. And this administration, there's not like one person that's been charged in the riots in the Obama admin fauci. A lot of announcements about this, that and the other, but no accountability. So I say, you got to just start throwing these people in jail or you'll get more of it.

[A]

Yeah. And during the Biden administration, we saw a lot of people go to jail. Trump himself got arrested, his lawyers got arrested. Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro went to. Went to jail for a prison, I think. Well, I don't know if it's jail or prison. It's contempt holding. So I don't know what you'd call that one. And, yeah, so far, we've gotten these weak charges on mortgage fraud.

[D]

Yep, that's.

[A]

That's just potential mortgage fraud.

[E]

My concern of a reason of why you wouldn't charge these guys like Don Lemon and his and his cohort was that, like, what did they do? Like you were saying, Tim, if it's a bank robbery, that's one thing. If it's going on a protest on a street corner. Well, that's another thing. Did they just walk in and yell and leave? Did they hurt somebody?

[A]

Let me ask you a question. If a group of people said they were going to break into your house because they wanted to condemn you and surprise you, and Don was like, I'm going to go in with them, is that breaking and entering? Yeah. So I want to make sure I'm clear. This is a normal. This is a public accommodation. It's a church. So typically, you can just walk in and then talk to them. However, if your intention is disruption is not in, you're not invited in. Actually, you know, I'll do this. A better example is the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. This is a law that's been used to go after tons of hackers over the past 20 years, and it states unauthorized access to a server is a felony. But what is unauthorized access? It was. It's literally been construed as if you have a URL that is, you could type it in and go to it, but they did not give you permission to enter it. They've literally charged people for that. So I know it's online, but the general idea is just because it's a public accommodation you can normally walk into doesn't mean you can walk in with the intention of shutting it down. Filming, not getting permission, all of these things.

[E]

Understood it. It's a crime, what they did. I just don't want to see people get overcharged. That's my concern, is that. Is that then the other side or whatever will be like, well, they're political prisoner now. And then they have a sign with Don Lemon's face on it.

[A]

The people who stormed in unquestionably committed a crime. This is. This is a private. This is private property. And again, progressive rules. This is a protected class. They're in a place of worship, exercising their First Amendment rights to exercise the religion as they see fit on private property with open doors. And these people said, we're going to go in, shut it down, and scream at them. Don Lemon says, I know about this in advance. I'm gonna go with them. And we all know that he has sympathies and he agrees with them. That being said, I think they should face the more serious charges under the Face act with conspiracy against rights. I think Don Lemon should get a slap on the wrist. I'm not gonna sit here and say, like, Don Lemon should go to prison for 20 years or anything crazy like that. I think he should get a desk appearance ticket and be like, you committed a crime. He should go before a judge that just say, Mr. Lemonade, if you ever have advanced knowledge of potential felonies, I advise you not to follow them in the building. You're going to be under six months of court supervision. Thank you, and have a nice day.

[D]

I just put a tweet into the slack. There's a. There's a video of Don Lemon saying it's uncomfortable and traumatic, but that's what protesting is about. If the intent is to intimidate people, which is what he's trying to do by saying uncomfortable and traumatic, but he's committing a crime.

[A]

Don't make me defend on Lemon Brown. I'm not making you defend. He's talking about what they are doing. And I agree that. I think. I somewhat agree with Ian. You don't want to go crazy and create martyrs and rally people. Don Lemon did something wrong, but he's not an organizer. He's just a. No, he's an activist who sympathizes, and he filmed it. So he should go before a judge, and the judge should be like, one more time and we're locking you up. Six months court supervision.

[D]

But to your point about creating martyrs, like, they're gonna create a martyr out of him anyways. They're going to treat this as if the left is going to treat this as it's some massive, massive attack on the First Amendment.

[A]

Of course that's what they do. But. But are you really suggesting you think, like, Don Lemon should get felony charges and face more than a year in prison for.

[D]

I don't know that. I don't know that he should get felony charges, but I do think that he should be charged. And I don't know that that a desk, you know, just a.

[A]

Just a court supervision for. Usually for first offenses on things like.

[D]

Like that.

[A]

Because the face acts a misdemeanor. Okay, so look, for the people who stormed in. No, I think they should. They should. Six months minimum, maybe longer. You know, it's always wild to me that the criminal justice system wants to put people in prison for a years for things like, like you driving on a suspended license, a year in jail.

[D]

Part of the reason why I think that they should throw the book at him, though, is because it will actually set precedent that the administration is going to come down. Right now, the administration has a very bad track record so far. People are very upset because there's so many people like to.

[A]

Next point.

[D]

There's so many people that they were expecting to get arrested whether or not There was justification. There was. There's a lot of people that are like, we expected this. We expected that they should be doing what, whatever they can to throw the book at him. And I'm not saying they should overcharge them. I'm not saying they should create charges, but whatever they've done, whatever they're found guilty for, they should throw the book at him.

[A]

Yeah, go. Go ahead.

[F]

No, I was just saying, I mean, like, I don't even think we're setting a new precedent. I think we're just continuing the Biden era precedent, which is, again, you have to make examples out of these people because, like, the timeline we're heading down right now is really grim. It's really grim stuff. And these leftists, like, if you can put away a few people, like, on the fringes, that's not enough. You need to send a message to these people that, like, no, look, we are going to break you.

[A]

I'll give y' all this. And I'm curious what you think about it. Don Lemon, during J6, said their terrorist insurrectionist that should be locked up. He drew no distinction between Steve Baker and there was another journalist, literally, from a local news outlet in the South. He had his big corporate camera, those old school SDI ridiculous things. And it was him and, like, two other journalists, Steve Baker and two other journalists, this one guy, they all got charged. Don Lemon never came out and said, hey, guys, hold on. Some of these people are journalists, as far as I know. And if he did, correct me if I'm wrong, I looked for it. I asked our AI friends to try and double check for it. I've seen nothing notable from him in that regard. If his attitude towards the J6ers are. Everybody who wins the same. There's no distinction of the people who weren't at the right and walked in or the journalists who were there, they shouldn't have been pardoned, they should have been charged. Then I say, okay, Don, I'll see you in prison.

[B]

Yeah, no, I totally agree. And it's not even just a message to him, but to the entire left wing. And you're so right. Precedent is the word. Because the reason these people are so bold, rioting, looting in Minneapolis, what they're doing right now, the reason they went into a church, is because there's never any consequences for the left. There's never any accountability with the right. And what's funny is what happens with the right. They just get the book thrown at them. There's no defense. Ashley Babbitt, was there a Big discussion in the national press about was that justified, Was that overkill? No, absolutely not. But the left knows they get away with literally murder and every other thing. So I think you got to crush them. You got to make an example out of them. And then the next time people think twice and say, I don't know, should we storm the church? We might go to jail like those other people.

[D]

And to your point, like, I think the fact that it. This is a church matters as well, because it is doing. The left does want to intimidate people that are Christians. They do want to. And this is coming from a guy that's agnostic, right? Generally. I mean, I was raised Catholic, but I'm generally kind of an agnostic guy. And the way that the left operates, they want to do everything they can to intimidate Christians, to intimidate Catholics, because that's why they did the whole, you know, what is it? The Christian nationalist.

[A]

This, this is.

[D]

Donald Trump's going to be a Christian nationalist. They want to have Catholics and people that people of faith, they want them to be demonized, and that was why they did it. So I do think that it's important to really kind of smack this down.

[A]

Let's jump to this video. A visibly upset. That's what Tim Cast News calls it. A visibly concerned Don Lemon asks Minnesota AG Keith Ellison for his two cents on possible Klan act charges. I would just like to stress for the dawn of this new segment the sheer irony that everyone has pointed out of Don Lemon being a gay black man facing charges on MLK Jr. Day for violating the Klan Act. I. This is not even. This is beyond sitcom level writing. I just, I have no words.

[D]

But here's the clip. The funniest outcome is the one.

[A]

I don't even know what's going on these days.

[H]

Can you talk to us about. Now, DL was joking about it, saying he's never been on next to a Klansman. But what is this KKK Act?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

So the KKK act is when people.

[A]

Will use for the threat of force.

[E]

And violence, or force of violence to deny you your human rights, your civil rights under the color of law.

[A]

And so this is.

[E]

I mean, look, it's a wild stretch and inappropriate.

[A]

And the Face act, by the way.

[E]

Is designed to protect the rights of people seeking their reproductive rights to be protected. And so that people, for a religious reason, cannot just use religion to break into women's reproductive health centers.

[A]

So correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is that when they wanted to pass the FACE act, it was to stop people protesting abortion clinics. But that's a one sided political debate. So they said. And places of worship, which wasn't really happening. That's my understanding of it. I could be wrong. I don't know if you guys have heard something similar.

[D]

Yeah. The Face act or Freedom of Access to a Clinical entrances act of 1994 is a federal law signed by President Bill Clinton that protects access to reproductive health care facilities and places of religious worship. It prohibits the use of force threats, force, physical obstruction or property damage to interfere with individuals making or seeking providing reproductive health services or exercising their first amendment right to religious freeman freedom. This is a slam dunk.

[A]

I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The, the, the, the thing you see with a video like this is I don't know why he added under the color of law to that. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what he's trying to say. But the left, as I think you were pointing out just in the previous segment, we know this. They're. They're going to say whatever they have to say to justify what they're doing. That's it. So if Don Lemon, Don Lemon could shoot a guy in fifth Avenue and they'd say it was self defense, even if he screamed out, this is not self defense. I'm going to shoot a man for no reason. They'd be like, well, you know, he was scared. And then when it comes to say, Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent, it's. He absolutely was not struck by the vehicle. He had no fear. And then when the, when the, when you get two officials and the DHS saying, oh, he had internal bleeding, they go, so he didn't get run over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, right. They will say whatever they have to say to make it work. Even when they now know he was hit.

[B]

It's.

[A]

But it wasn't bad. Soon they're gonna say it was good that he was hit. In fact, a lot of them are saying it now and they're saying they wish he got hit harder.

[F]

I mean, that's why it would be so beautiful to throw the Klan act back in their face. Throw the face act back in their face. Especially like, I know we're running out of time here, the office might be closed, but like, if we can get a gay black guy charged on MLK Day with the Klan act, I mean, it'd be like a really beautiful poetic thing. But yeah, I mean, this is what you have to do is the left is like, literally, they ran the show for the last six years and the Republicans were literally just the Managed Decline Party. So again, utilizing these ridiculous laws that they got across the finish line and again throwing it back in their face. There's a, like a demoralizing effect I think that have on. That has on leftists.

[A]

So I was just watching. Have you guys seen the show 112263 on Netflix?

[B]

No.

[A]

It's based on a Stephen King novel. It's about. It's like the weirdest show is entertaining, but a guy is at a diner and the guy who owns the diners like, my closet is a portal to 1960. And he's like, okay. And then they go back to 1960 and the guy's like, you gotta stop Kennedy from getting assassinated. And he's like, why? And he's like, because then my friends wouldn't have died in Vietnam. And he's like, all right, I guess so. Then he just lives in 1960 for the next few years. And then everything goes wrong. Nothing works. Blah, blah, blah. You get a time travel story. And I'm sitting here thinking, like, when I hear this and you're mentioning a poetic victory of getting a guy charged, a black gay guy charged with the Klan act on MLK Day, I'm like, he should have went back in time to 1960 and said, this is what you're about to do and show the news. And I'm just imagining, like, I guess I'm only bringing up as I watch the show, but imagine what it would be like if you went back to the Civil Rights act era and said, in the future, this is the world you are creating. And they're going to be like, well, you're all a bunch of retards that makes the application of law is going to be retarded.

[B]

Literally. They probably support it more. They'd be like, the KKK laws about arrested black people, dude, you would like it.

[F]

You would show them, like when they're about to like sign the Heart Seller act and you show them a Costco. They'd be like, blow it off.

[A]

This is terrible. I mean, we're still. There's that video of the crying World War II veteran. Did you guys see this one where he's like, this is not what we fought for.

[D]

Yeah, he's a British guy, right?

[A]

Was he British?

[D]

I think. I think it was, but I don't.

[F]

Know the one in Britain. And then the hosts were like trying to gaslight him. They're like, yeah, we'll do our best to like live up to what you were fighting for. And he's just sitting there just like confused and Angry.

[A]

Well, Seamus had one of the best videos from Freedom Tunes where the. The woke leftists use a time machine to bring World War II veterans to the future to help them fight the Nazis. And then There are these three young World War II vets fight. Soldiers are like, what's going on? I'm like, the Nazis are back. And they're like, really? And they're like, yeah, they're trying to ban gay marriage. And then The World War II vet goes, you allow gays to get married.

[D]

Yeah, it's true.

[A]

Times there are changing, huh?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, look, the. Like I said, they should throw the book at this guy again.

[E]

I don't.

[D]

I don't think they should be overcharged. I don't think it should be precedent where. Where you could legitimately say that they were trumping up, you know, trumping up charges or whatever. But I do think that if there's any crimes that they've been found to commit, then they should.

[C]

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[D]

Be charged with the full extent of the law.

[A]

So there was a tweet at ship shipwrecked crew. For those unfamiliar shipwrecked crew is a 22 years a DJ prosecutor and representing now January six clients are head and someone said, I'd love for a shipwrecked a shipwrecked crew to weigh in on this. I have no doubt Planned Parenthood would push the DOJ as hard as possible to prosecute any arguable FACE act violation to which Shipwreck responded. I'm 100% sure it is coming. Religious liberty is an issue that Harmeet Dhillon was extensively involved in as part of her private practice. Defense of religious liberty is a big issue for as she has the. As she has the Face act to use. Yeah, this is her area and they're saying it's A violation of 1A on Don Lemon's part. No, no, no, no, no. I know I mentioned this in the previous thing, but I'LL say it again, Don Lemon, lesser than the. The activists who planned it. But, yes, this group violated the 1A rights of the churchgoers who are privately worshiping and minding their own business. This is where the government actually seeks to enforce rights. Don Lemon violated rights. So I think he'll go to jail. I think the odds they're giving it is like 20% that he'll get charged.

[D]

Yeah, I would. I really hope that it actually happens, because 20% is not enough to make me feel comfortable. There's a tweet that I just put in that to kind of put a bow on this. Don Lemon was talking to the. I don't know what her name is.

[A]

Jacqueline Welch or something, and he's saying.

[D]

That they're entitled white supremacists, the people in the church.

[G]

Wow.

[A]

Let's play the clip.

[H]

You know, and there's a certain degree of entitlement. I think people who are, you know, in the religious groups like that. It's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're entitled and that that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy. And they think that this country was built for them, that it is a Christian country. When actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom. It's relig freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male, pretty much. And so, Yeah, I absolutely. 100%, but it's an intimidation tactic. And, you know, I said, I don't understand how I've become the face of it. When I was a journalist, I do understand that I'm the biggest name there. And I'm also, as I was on with my producers this morning, you know, you and Kylie talk all the time. My producers were saying. I said, how did I become the face of this? And my producer said, don, you're a gay black man in America, and there's a certain degree of entitlement.

[A]

I think people stop. The only reason it wasn't perhaps because you had foreknowledge of a misdemeanor at least, or a felony violation of people's rights, and said, we're going to go film this and share it. I want to stress what makes us particularly egregious is that if a group of white supremacists said, we're going to traumatize and surprise and, you know, interfere with the rights of a group of black people at a church, and some white nationalists said, I'm gonna film that, they'd be like, that's a crime. Like, you're filming the hate crime. That's a crime, too. But the way that they view the world is we are perpetual victims fighting against injustice. Therefore, we're always allowed to do it our way. You're not allowed to do it your way.

[D]

I mean, I don't think it's gonna happen. But. But just the fact that he's calling them white supremacists could possibly be like, well, maybe this was a hate crime too. He hates white people.

[B]

He's.

[D]

He's accusing people of being white supremacists just because they're white and religious.

[F]

Yeah, well. And like, Don Lemon just gives the game away. Like, this is.

[B]

This.

[F]

This was such, like, an optical disaster for the left in a lot of ways, because it literally is the most obvious example of the two things they hate most, which is Christianity. And, like, Americans, broadly speaking. That's why, like, the one thing that seems to get these people on the. Out on the street more than anything else is ice, because ICE is attempting to, like, reverse this, like, replacement migration that's been going on for the last 60, 70 years. And they hate that. They hate that because they, like. They hate themselves. And so, by extension, they hate the U.S. that's why you're seeing, like, white people on the streets protesting. And so, again, this is like, just a complete obvious. It's like the most obvious example of what they actually fear the most, again, which is, like, Christianity, which is immigration enforcement. It's really egregious.

[A]

I actually think what we're seeing in terms of racial politics was an inevitability and was obvious to anybody paying attention. And we had talked about it on this show several years ago. I talked about on my morning show. But let's open up like this. There was an article a while ago from Sacrament Sac, Sacramento Public Schools or something. I don't know if you saw this. They were advocating for white racial affinity groups. And it was a progressive argument. The progressive argument was that white people needed to understand white history. I'm sure they were going to say negative things about it, but it was a school in Sacramento saying, we are going to gather all the little white kids together and give them their own group. And I said, what do you think those kids are going to do when you put a group of white kids in a room and say, here's why you're all bad. They're gonna look around at each other and be like, I don't think I'm bad. You're not bad. You're my friends. I like you, we like each other. And they're gonna say, hey, these people are bad. They're bad. And then they're going to attach their anger to their race. Instead of social issues, economic issues, political issues, they are creating this. So I look at it actually very, very simply. Mathematically, if you have a majority population, and historically minority populations are disadvantaged in a variety of ways, once the white population gets to a certain threshold, 60%, 65, 70%, they're going to start feeling pressure. It's not just that you expect it to be. No, no, no. As soon as America's 49% white, white people get angry. No, no, no. Because in Chicago, for instance, a good example, you have areas that are just all black and there are some white people who live there. Those white people are discriminated against and they become racist. Because on the surface, that seems to be the issue. You get the white population down to where it is now. You're starting to see affirmative action, you're starting to see DEI policies. And what's going to happen is it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong. It doesn't matter if you're oppressed or the oppressor. People don't like being pushed around. And you're going to get, you're going to get an increasing number of white people saying, stop yelling at me. And it's going to create white racial identity politics.

[B]

Well, yeah, I think that the diversification of America makes that an inevitability because people define themselves by distinction. I think that when the country was 90% white in the 60s, for example, people didn't even think of it as a white country. That's just what a country is. I wake up, I see all white people. That's what a country is. And the way they thought about diversity and immigration is, well, we could tolerate a white country with some non white people. But ever since 2012, it's 50, 50 non white versus white births. So generation Z, generation Alpha. They're growing up in classrooms, neighborhoods. It's not white. It's some white people, some non white people. It's a total mix. And now they're starting to say, no, I'm a white person in a diverse country. I'm a white person in a Mexican neighborhood. I'm the only white kid in an Indian neighborhood. You almost become more white the less white the country becomes.

[H]

Right.

[B]

And the thing is, I don't even think that's a. It's bad that the country's becoming majority non white. And I think it's a Good thing that people are developing a consciousness, because I think that's the only basis that they can stick up for themselves is as a group.

[A]

Why, why, why do you think it's bad the country's becoming less white?

[B]

Because I think it makes the country less cohesive and I think it destroys the identity of the country. You know, America was founded by white people, built by white people. The culture that America had was generated by European civilization. And I think that when it becomes majority non white, you're going to get a very different kind of country in every way.

[A]

What if it was, let's just say, all Native American, but they were all like the most die hard conservative constitutionalists who are like the founding Fathers were the greatest thing ever happened to our land. Would you disagree with that? Is that worse?

[B]

I would, because then we'd all be living in teepees and riding on horses.

[A]

I'm making it about the racial component. If, if it was, if it was 300 million Native Americans and like the white people just like didn't have babies and moved to Iceland or something, the Native Americans said, we're gonna build skyscrapers, we're gonna play baseball, make apple, you know, bake apple pies. We're going to praise the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. Is, is that still bad?

[B]

Well, that's just it. I don't think that it's interchangeable. That's really kind of the key word. Because whenever people talk about race, they say, is it skin deep? And some people say, well, what if the person's skin was black? Or what if the skin was red or yellow or brown or whatever. But I don't think that Indians or, you know, Amerindians, whatever you want to call them, I don't think they will be building skyscrapers. I don't think they have liberalism, center right liberalism. I don't think they have any of that.

[A]

Well, but, but this is why I ask the very, the very like, obviously impossible hypothetical, if the only difference was skin deep, would that be a worse off nation?

[B]

Well, it wouldn't be the same nation is the point. I wouldn't feel at home, let's say if Chicago was all Indians running around, I would be a minority and I would feel deeply uncomfortable because, you know, home for us is familiarity. We like seeing familiar faces like our mom and dad and our uncles and grandparents. We like the food and the culture we grew up with. And if it's all Indians, well, they're going to be doing their Indian thing and it's their home, not ours.

[A]

But that's the hypothetical if they were making apple pie and playing baseball with you and were in every, every.

[B]

How about this?

[A]

Every white person, a genie appears and he's like, I'm going to make everyone Indian. And then every white person just goes, whoa, I'm Indian. Now is the country worse off because of that? Like, you become an Indian? The culture is identical in every way. They love the Constitution, the founding fathers, they're all Catholics and Christians or whatever. Is that bad?

[B]

If I were Indian, well done. I guess it would be the same. If I'm a white person in a white country and I'm an Indian in an Indian country, I benefit, you know. But we don't, we don't have to look at a hypothetical because America was a white country and now it's going to be a non white country.

[A]

Well, this is, you know, this is, this is. Well, what's interesting is this is actually the argument the left uses in an inverse moral position that white was the default. People didn't view themselves as white largely because everybody was right. And so they were basically otherized. And now they want to take that power away from white people.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

The inverse arguments on the other side is, well, this is a country built by white European people. Colonizers came to this land, conquered or traded and developed it. So why should we give it away?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

To Nick's point, I was watching dad Saves America and, and Shellenberger was on, he was talking about, he was talking about actually Venezuela, but he mentioned how, like, you know, the different cultures around the world are very different from, you know, from, from Western culture. And he was talking about, I'm retweeting in the tweet now if anyone wants to go to my, my X page and check it out. But like, he was saying, look, you know, if you're in India, right, you don't pay the electric company directly. You pay your landlord and he goes and he bribes the electric company. He's like, if you're in South America and you get a job, the guy that gives you the job expects you to give him like a vig for the entire time that, that you work there, like 10, 20%. So it's, it really, it really does matter, the culture that you come from. And if you, and we've talked about this before, if you bring enough people from a different culture into the United States, you will change what the United States is. We don't have magic soil.

[A]

I, I think the, the challenging thing for a lot of conservatives, actually liberals totally get it, is that for Your average person. Let me start with the George Carlin joke. Think about how stupid the average person is. Now realize half of them are stupider than that. I know people are going to say Tim's calling people dumb, but most people make judgments based off of appearance first and foremost. This is the first thing you learn in sales, how you appear to the person you are trying to sell. If I was going to try and approach Ian and I saw the guy walking down the street, I'll put it like this. If I had a sales team and Ian was the customer, I would not send Nick in his suit and tie to try and sell Ian. I would send probably Phil or Tate with a more relaxed look. Appearance is the first thing people go to and that means race. And that's why there is racism. It's not that there can't be, you know, like an Indian guy born in America, who loves America, believes in the founding father, just looks different. It's that people in Chicago, Chicago being a really great example of this, people choose to segregate. The question is why? And how do you change it? And that was the liberal experiment. They have failed at time and time again, which never worked. Now I think it's fair to say in the true sense of classical liberalism, we wish that were the case and we want there to be everybody holding hands under a rainbow. I, you know, when it comes to the instance of if I know, if I, if I see somebody like disparage a racial group or particularly like someone I know or a person, I'll be like, that's not okay. Generalizing an entire group of people because of one person you don't like is bad. The problem is go to Chicago and ask the people there to do the same. Be it the white working class, the Polish immigrants, the Ukrainian, Italian, the black community or the Latino community, they're not going to do it. You go to the black neighborhood and they're going to call you racial slurs. And depending on which neighborhood it is, where there's a lot of gang, gangbanger territory, which is where I grew up near, they'll, you could get shot and killed. There are some gangs that have forced initiation. If you're born in their neighborhood, you have to join the gang. And in order to join the gang, you have to kill somebody. And so there have been instances where a 20 year old gang banger will be a black guy, he'll go up to a 13 year old black kid, hand him a gun and say, go shoot that mug. And it'll be just some white Guy walking down the street, and they'll be like, because you got to kill somebody to get in. It can be that wild. Typically, it's somebody they want dead. So there have been instances where, again, I grew up near the leclair Courts, historic gang territory, literally two blocks away. You cross that street, you're going to get beat the crap. They're going to beat the crap out of you. Or famously, the cops would pull, like the white person walking in a black neighborhood. Cops are going to pick you up and drive you back and say, the only reason white people go here is for drugs. So how do we function? It's a challenging question that liberals seem to recognize but don't ever want to address publicly.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

You have to separate race and culture and acknowledge that there is genetic differences in different. What you want to call races that have accrued over time, millennia, thousands of years, due to nutrition and sunlight, all sorts of, you know, elevation, whatever. Like Asian people, for instance, have that fold in the eye that blocks the wind.

[A]

It's true. It's because of the wind.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Because of that plateau or whatever it's called.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And the people because you. You brought up. The fox had it too. Yeah. And it looked like some Chinese guy. Totally. No, but it did. And we. We pulled it up. What was the fox called?

[E]

The Tibetan fox.

[A]

Tibetan. And then you said something like, I wonder if it's because of the wind. And then we looked up and literally it says the fox and Asians have the slanted eyes because of high winds.

[E]

And people with the darker skin probably get a lot more sunlight near the equator. Equator. Yeah.

[D]

You don't have. I mean, black people don't get melanoma.

[E]

Getting, like, dark skin doesn't just make you behave diff. Well, this is like a conversation that I don't even know if I'm scientifically equipped to actually talk about, like, literal genetic difference. Like, does darker skin. I think we talked about melatonin correlate with more violence. Is that true? We did some study that had some.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Correlation and violence between.

[A]

And so we were.

[E]

An animal got the violent.

[D]

It got.

[E]

It was a very strange study.

[A]

Yeah. They did two experiments, rats and foxes. And they bred them for. To be. It was like a domestication experiment. The aggressive animals would not get food or they wouldn't be bred or something like this. I think what they did was both the most aggressive got bred, and the least aggressive and the least aggressive chain ended up losing their melanin production and becoming white and spotty. And the interesting thing Was, this is a research study. I'm not telling you what it means, it's just what they found. But, man, did the AI try everything in its wordy, weird power to try and claim it wasn't true and didn't exist. And we were like laughing at it, like, dude, I'm not going to discriminate against a person based on their race because you did a study.

[E]

So my take here, Nick, I'd love to get your take on this too, is that in the United States, the black people, not everybody, but just for the last 150 years, they're descendants of slaves. So they had poor nutrition, they were basically thrown out on the street with lack of education. And generation after generation, they've come from this tumbling mess of chaos of slavery. Had it been 2000 years ago and the black people of Africa had enslaved a bunch of white northerners and then they were let out on the street. Maybe it's not so much about skin color, but it's about how the last 150 years of your ancestry has been treated. I'd like to get your take on.

[B]

Well, I think that is really the question because you have these persistent disparities in everything. Education, wealth, income, and then crime and educational attainment, all that kind of stuff.

[A]

Stuff.

[B]

And the question is, why are these things the way they are? And the answer is, if everybody starts in the same way, you know, the kind of blank slate ism which says that we're all born equal, we're all the same, and we all end up every year in different places. And, you know, let's say it's Asians on top, whites next, Hispanics then blacks. People say, well, something must have happened in the middle for these disparities to arise, which would be racism. And I would say it's. It's less interesting, maybe how we got to an unequal position, rather than first to say we are in an unequal position and say, why is it that the black people struggle to read in Baltimore? Why are the crime rates so bad? And you could say, well, when you test their iq, it's a full standard deviation lower. And some people say, well, that's because the white people had winter and the black people are hunter gatherers. And other people say, well, it's, you know, maybe it's a nutritional thing because that does influence IQ and the rest of it, brain size and all of it. Fact of the matter is that's where we are. That's. That's the case.

[A]

I think one of the issues I take with a lot of the general generalized racism is that a Somali black person not the same as a Haitian black person. And so when you just. They're kind of similar, I'm. But Haitians are like 6, 5, and Somalis are like 5, 3. And my point is, when you just say black, white or otherwise, I mean, a Slavic Eastern European versus like a northern Spanish person are going to be pretty different, but everyone's gonna call them white. The question is, what's interesting about it is whether you're from, like, Chicago being the example of chosen racial segregation. While I think it's important to point out when we're talking about IQ and reading levels, Nigerians who migrate here tend to do very, very well. But that's because the best, smartest Nigerians are able to afford to migrate. So then you'll, you'll see when they say, like, oh, it's, you know, in the school in like Harvard, they were finding Asians scored the highest, followed by whites. Then I think it was, what, Latino than black. But you'll find like two or three black people who scored super high. And it's like wealthy Nigerian from, from like a wealthy family. But the point is, in a place like Chicago, when families move from Africa, no matter which country it is, if their skin tone is black, they choose to go into an area where everyone has a darker complexion. And white people choose to go in areas of wider complexion. Latinos choose to go in areas where there's other Latinos. The interesting thing about the Brandon Johnson election that I covered, that we covered on the show was. And you should, you should. I don't know if you looked at, you look at the electoral map compared to the racial demographics.

[B]

I did. Yeah.

[A]

One for one.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Every. The only one deviation, the only neighbor that didn't vote based on race was the Loyola Progressive Socialist area, which was largely white and voted for the black candidate. Every black neighborhood, their top three candidates were black. Even if the second and third place, that the second and third choice wasn't a contender, it was like Someone polling at 0.2% was the third most voted for person in the black neighborhoods. The white neighborhoods voted for the white guy. Hispanic voted for Hispanic, and black voted for black. And the only reason Johnson won was because Loyola neighborhood woke leftists voted for the black socialists. You can say anything you want about racism. You can talk about every ideal you have. You can talk about how the world is supposed to be. You can say whatever you think people want to hear. You can lie and claim you're an activist. These realities exist and all these liberals that are trying to say blank slate and otherwise, I just say to them, look, I'm never gonna hold someone back because of their race. Prop them up. A person is a person. But you're not gonna be able to advance this realistically when you can go to any city and people choose to segregate based on race. Now, that being said, I want everyone to look at this Tibetan fox.

[E]

Oh, beautiful.

[G]

Tibetan.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think Ian was like, you gotta look at the Tibetan fox because he's got Asian eyes.

[E]

He looks like a wise Chinese man.

[A]

Does well of the foxes. You know, the other foxes go to him for wisdom.

[E]

He looks like you, Tim.

[A]

See, that's.

[B]

That's.

[A]

You know what's funny, though, is that's also to the left, racist to say that an old Asian person just has more wisdom. It's positive discrimination. But no, we looked it up and it's true. The reason they have the folded eyes is because of the high winds in that plateau region. And it's also why Asians have that as well. But we should talk more about news. And I want to jump to this story because of what's going on in Minneapolis. The New York Times wrote a story called Minneapolis feels, quote, like being in a civil War. That wasn't the original headline. The original headline was, in Minneapolis, I glimpsed a civil War. And I think they changed the headline because, well, the opinion writer really meant it, and the New York Times probably got freaked out by what it actually meant. Now, of course, if you read the article, your time will largely be wasted, but. Oh, it looks like this is a different. Oh, is it a different article? Maybe I pulled up the wrong article. Let me see if I can find the other one, because I. I covered this. No, it looks like this another. Now it's an interview. They're interviewing the person who wrote it.

[D]

I feel like Ross Duthead has actually touched on the subject before.

[A]

Yeah, I'll try. There was another article that I was reading this morning that maybe is the reason why I didn't pull it up. Maybe it's. Oh, okay. No, I thought they changed the title. I was wrong. Oh, cool. In Minneapolis, I glimpsed the civil war. Right. Here you go. And the gist of it is pretty clear. Isis, evil, Trump's waging war, blah, blah, blah. Their take is that they have experiences with civil wars and they're watching it now. I use as a launchpad to show you what's going on and to talk about what's expected to happen. And I want to show you this.

[C]

Clip first, the blue tsunami means that Congress is going to haul Elon Musk, big balls and a bunch of other people's ass in front and say, what crimes did you commit? And it's going to get really serious. And the same with Trump, because I believe, and this is just my opinion, that Trump and all of the bottom feeding morons surrounding him and Elon Musk and all the bottom feeding clinger honors that surround him, I think they commit crimes every day. And I think to reconcile all of this is going to take hardcore, not integrity Democrats. You Democrats. Fuck you for fucking over our country. We are serious about this. We are prosecuting. We're going to uncover every document, every phone call, everything you did. We will be relentless about it. And that's the mindset they've got to have because I think the electorate is going from we've got to get him out, but also we want accountability.

[E]

There has to be accountability.

[A]

You have to have a situation where there's accountability. And I talked about this the other day with fanon, the former MPD police officer who almost got killed on January 6. You know, he said, and I think it's true that it's more than just the Dems win back the Congress.

[C]

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[A]

We have to change this. This John Roberts Supreme Court decision that gave the President of the United States a blank check. No man or woman should be above the law in this. So we've got prosecute Trump and the people around him. Okay, then we have this, show me.

[D]

The man, I'll show you the crime.

[A]

Exactly. I was thinking the exact same thing. You know what I'm do First, I want to pull up this tweet from me because I was seeing a bunch of things going on in Minneapolis. And so I'm just sitting there and I was thinking about, I tweeted out, I X posted what I'm seeing in Minneapolis is crazy. They're attacking pedestrians or storming churches. And then I get this flag a Potential community note saying that there's no evidence any of this is actually happening. So I've got it right here. Here's the tweet. The things I'm hearing out of Minneapolis are insane. Activists forcing their way to churches, attacking random pedestrians, stalking SUVs. WTF is going on? Write the proposed community notes. Okay, what did they say? There is no verified evidence of activists forcing entry into churches or broadly attacking pedestrians in Minneapolis. Local police and major news outlets report no such pattern and urge reliance on confirmed information. Aside from the fact that there's videos of them storming the churches. We've showed you photos of it already. Harmeet Dylan says she's potentially. She actually is pursuing charges. And then there's this. A video of a pedestrian being attacked for wearing a hoodie that says freedom. And that looks like an Indian guy.

[B]

Off Got W protesters on this one.

[A]

Could this be considered as a sexual assault?

[E]

Yeah, like, take it off.

[A]

They're making a guy take his hoodie off in the winter in Minnesota.

[D]

I mean, look, man.

[A]

My bigger complaint is that hoodie doesn't fit him from the left.

[D]

And I love it, you know, so.

[A]

Here'S a pedestrian getting attacked because his hoodies said freedom. Here's a video of white people, they're eating lunch, and activists think they look like ice and begin, let's just say, berating them and threatening them. I mean, this is. I mean, so cool. This has got to be the funniest.

[B]

Thing I've ever seen.

[A]

I know. It's like you feel like a zoo. I've never. I've never.

[B]

Been filming us.

[A]

Why are you filming? Because you're filming us.

[C]

Cheers.

[A]

So you can't really hear what they're saying. And the whistling's really loud. But he's saying we do app development for a variety of businesses and we don't even support ice. You hear people say several times, if you're not with us, you're against us. I gotta say, the whistling really sounds very short bussy. You know what I mean? Like, it's a group of really dumb people just blowing whistles. And I'm just like, well, I think they're all. Here's another video. Here's a video. This is Commander Bevino confirms anti ICE Riders are destroying private vehicles of civilians thinking they're ICE Mayor Fran Tim Walt haven't said a freaking word to help put a stop to this. So that's going on. And then what do we have here? We have. We have this. Hakeem Jeffries adding on. We're Going to get some indictments. We're going to charge people. Here's Jake. This is Jake Lang, right as his name, Jake Lang, getting attacked by a bunch of leftists.

[E]

I heard this guy was dragged into the crowd, stabbed.

[A]

Is that true? He said that someone tried stabbing him but they hit his vest. So he didn't get, he didn't get injured. That's my understanding. So anyway, the point is this. On the podcast they're saying you're going to jail. And on the streets of Minneapolis they're beating people, destroying random vehicles, stealing rifles out of federal agents vehicles and threatening pedestrians. There's a video, a photo going viral where it's allegedly from Will Stancil saying there's a SUV with press written on the back. And he's like, you need to pull over for us and prove. Give us your credentials. Cuz you are acting like ice. They've begun to act like de facto government authority. And I warned it was going to happen. Remember when I said you'll hear a doorbell ring, you'll go to the door and there'll be a clown through your people holding up a rainbow sheet of colored paper. It says clown warrant on it. And he's gonna say, I'm the clown police. Open your door and you're gonna go, I don't. What, like you don't recognize clown police? You would not open the door for this person. These people are already saying pull your car over. They're, they're telling people in restaurants, harassing them. Who are you? What are you doing? We are getting to the point where you're gonna walk down the street and some leftist with a communist badge or whatever is gonna say you're being detained. We're in control now. And then again, if Democrats win, these people are on their side.

[B]

They're gonna have the Obama 08 logo as an armband. Marching down the streets enforcing Islam and socialism. But no, but it is true. And here's the problem with Trump. This is why I didn't vote for him. I knew that this administration is, has no balls, does not have the will to do it. And you want to know how you knew they have no balls. And when Charlie Kirk got shot, they didn't do nothing to antifa, to the far left, any of these people. And the problem is the administration is them off. It's provoking them, agitating them. The Letitia James stuff, the James Comey stuff, they're poking the left in the eye. But they have no real way to use the federal government. They're not wielding it properly or efficiently. And so what Jim Acosta said, that is a little window into the future. The left is going to take back the House, they're going to subpoena everybody, impeach everybody, prosecute everybody. They're going to come in 28 maybe they're going to win and then they're going to bury us. So the problem with Trump is he's barking up the wrong tree. You either destroy the left or they get in and then they destroy us. That simple.

[D]

Nick, do you think that these kind of videos are going to have any effect in the fall? Because this is something that's broadly unpopular with the American people and there's so much awful imagery for the left coming out. Do you think that this actually would affect people in midterms? I personally think that it would affect if it was a presidential election. Do you think that it'll get people out in the midterm?

[B]

Absolutely not, no. Because these, these are left wing people that activated and that's what happens when the incumbent is in charge. They always lose seats in the midterms. They always lose seats in the House in particular two years later. And that's because the left or the opposing party always gets animated and charged up. They get activated by those hot button issues. So these are the same people, these are the shock troops for the legions of the blue wave. They're going to come in, in, in 26 in the fall and we're going to get buried. What is it like a three seat majority? We lose the House, it's curtains, they're gonna jam up everything and then they are going to destroy us. And the difference is the left does not play. They said, you know, we need fu Democrats. That's all they've ever been. You know, that's what Biden did, that's what this is gonna be. And we are all toast when that happens. So I, for me, I look at the left and people are saying, I saw that tweet. They said, well, Tim Walls isn't doing anything, dude, Trump is the President. Isn't this our golden age? Bring in the feds, bring in the troops, shut it down, it's your country. But you know, our people are not playing games. They're giving speeches, doing interviews. They got to send in the troops and crush these people. That's what it's all about. But they're going to wait for them to march.

[A]

These activists have been disrupting, disrupting law enforcement for a decade plus. And the repercussions are always slap on the wrist, minor charges, rubber Bullets. ICE is out enforcing real law. They're not doing crowd control, so they're armed with lethal munitions. And these activists, because they've never felt consequences. Why did you have real bullets? They think they're playing a game. They think they're playing cops and rappers.

[E]

You know, I don't think we should send in the troops. I'll tell you why I think that the goal of there's Saul Alinsky's rule for radicals. The left, the communist momentum, wants the government to establish a fascist crackdown so they can say, see, we told you they're fascist, and then rally a communistic communal revolution against the government. That's my main concern.

[F]

Well, Nick, I was gonna say just as far too as like antagonizing the left. I mean, don't you think they would sort of escalate this way anyway, even with or without Trump in office? Because like, I look at the Trump administration, I'm like, look, whatever concerns anyone may have, it's at least buying us time. It's giving us breathing room. And for me, that means it's worthwhile to throw support behind. I mean, like, negative migration is like huge. I would say going forward.

[B]

I don't feel a lot of breathing room right now. And I think that, you know, there's arguments that like, well, when a Republican's in charge, it buys us time to organize and do things like that and. But it's like Elon bought Twitter when Biden was in charge. Censorship got relaxed when Biden was in charge. I feel like the right was never more powerful than a year ago or two years ago in 2024. That's when we were at our like, apogee. And when Trump gets in power, it's the opposite. Like all the censorship happened in Trump's first term. Charlottesville happened in his first term. BLM happened in his first term. The vax was created in his first term. And you know, you're right, the left probably would have gotten charged up anyway. I think though that let's say Trump lost the election in 24, Kamala gets in. I don't think they have as much momentum because the difference is if, if it's like a continuation of the Democrats, there's still this like right wing anger saying this is an illegitimate government. Kamala never won a primary. If she brings us to war, doubly so no one believes the election's legit, but Trump wins and now the right wing is complacent. Cuz the right wing says we won, let's go home. They you Know, you think people are doing something with the breathing room. They're not. The left is breathing. The left is getting excited. And, and I would have supported Trump if I had confidence that he would use what he gets to actually, like, blow up some of these agencies and departments, prosecute the left, deport 10 million people. But it's like we're playing games, waiting for them to get back in power, and then they don't play games. That. And, and to your concern about, you know, the communists are going to rally, it's like if we get a fascist takeover, they're all going to jail. Like, identify these people, put them in jail, watch them, monitor them. If they did it to the right, we could do it to the left. I think we need to play to win, because if we just wait around for them to use power, they do. They. They're not worried about being fascists.

[A]

I think what you're describing predicts Democrats will take over. They will begin to go tenfold harder than we've already seen them go, which is insane. I mean, they arrested Donald Trump several times and his lawyers. The right will then have a massive reaction. It would. If this does come to full scale civil war, it seems that the prediction is it will be with Democrats in control of government and right wing splinter groups at the state level, you know, breaking apart, which I think was Rudyard's prediction, effectively. Is that. Is that what he said or did he. Did he. I don't. Yeah, he said the people's. What did he say? Like, the people's Congress would be in Austin or something. And then like. Yeah, I think, I think I could be wrong. So Rudyard, correct me, I think he was saying the Democrat faction would be in D.C. and the conservative faction would be in Austin, and those would be the main centers of resistance. And then I argued at the time, because I think it was just after Trump won, that it would actually be. The Democrats would be New York and the Republicans would be. Republicans would be D.C. based on your argument, I'm not so sure anymore exactly what would happen. But it does seem like you are right. The right won't fight because with, because they view it very hierarchically. Trump is in charge. It's over, we won.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The Democrats are decentralized and they're like, we're going to just rip everything to shreds at every granular level. And so you need that grassroots right now for local elections to help Trump win, especially in the midterms. It's not there.

[E]

Did you see? Instead of voting for Trump, did You vote for somebody else?

[B]

No, I just didn't vote. I just held back because I think that, you know, it was established going into this that Trump wasn't going to be serious. He wasn't going to keep his promises. And the Republicans need to know that they need to pander to their base, not just the other side, not to the middle, not to the minorities. You know, these like non conventional GOP voters, they need to appeal to the far right. And this is why we're getting what we're getting. And you know, by the way, Trump is getting rich off this. Trump got rich off Trump coin. Kristi Noem is getting rich off dhs, Corey. Like all these people are making tons of money off the contracts. Meanwhile, you got this kind of stuff going on. And it's like at the end of the day, Trump can pardon himself and all his people. We don't get pardons. We're boned. Like, when the left gets in, there's no refuge. We're just screwed. So I just wish that, you know, everything that they say about Stephen Miller and Trump and Vance was true, you know? Cause what they say is like, when Charlie Kirk got shot, Stephen Miller got up at his thing and said, we build things. You are nothing. We're coming after you. All that talk, all that flapping his gums on tv and then, you know, you're getting made to be the. In Minneapolis, in Trump country, they're like storming churches, blowing up hotels, going outside ice hotels, blowing their stupid whistles. It's like, we should bury these people right now. But, you know, they won't do it. They're playing games, I think.

[A]

I just wonder, as they've argued, Biden's pardons are absolute and Trump can't do anything about it. What would happen if Trump did a blanket. Like, anyone who ever voted Republican is hereby pardoned of all crimes and all sentences commuted.

[D]

Yeah, they're going to, they'll ignore it. The left will absolutely say that.

[A]

I know it would be interesting because if Trump did that and like, let's say it's December 20th, something he does this, he's like, I got one month left left. It would be honored until that month later. But that would release after.

[D]

Yeah, there's, there's no question that, like, if Trump, I'm sure that at the end of Trump's term, he's going to do a bunch of pardons trying to cover his bases and they're going to ignore it. They're going to come up with some way to delegitimize them and they're going to just wrap people up. There's no doubt in my mind that that's going to happen if, if, you know, J.D. vance or whoever's the guy that the conservative.

[A]

We'll see though, there's a few things that are happening that I think indicate a title change and we'll go this route. Maybe I can pull up this as a lead. You guys see the cease and desist on the TPUSA story?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So let me pull this up from the greatest news agency of all time, Times of India, because they actually write these stories. Terrible ideas. Candace Owens blast TP USA legal letter claim as Erica Kirk and YouTuber fuel fresh controversy so this is a story about a guy who, oh hey, look.

[B]

Hey, is that handsome guy. You made it.

[A]

This is, there's a, there's a YouTuber who made a bunch of ridiculous claims about the finances of tpusa who claims to be an accountant. He argued that they were paying a part, they were sending money to a parking lot. The parking lot was obviously just the parking lot of a major business complex. But saying parking lot is sensational. So they sent him a cease and cease and desist letter. Candace Owens came out and said it was a terrible idea. But there are questions even now people are asking about, particularly someone super chatted about. If Candace Owens is to destroy the moderates on the right, why would we have Nick Fuentes on, for example? Well, for all of the criticisms people have of you, you were calling out Candace Owens quite early on. And I think the, I think what's happening is whether intentional or otherwise. Let me, let me start here. The previous segment we were talking about what's going to happen when Democrats take power. They're going to lock people up. There's an argument that there's going to be a title change. And that's cbs. So you've seen what's happened with cbs. Yes, Barry Weiss took over. CBS has now started to balance their coverage. It's pretty bland, which is what it's supposed to be. But Barry Weiss is a proud Zionist. Candace Owens is as anti Zionist as you could be, but also nuts. The bifurcation that's being created, whether intentionally or otherwise, make that argument. You want, all you want is that the corporate press at CBS now, which is one of the most viewed news companies and programs in the country and in the world, probably is. I'll give you an example on the Somali daycare fraud. The story came out and said 62 convictions, 92 arrests from the Biden DOJ Somali fraud is real. And I'm sitting here being like, well, okay, there we go. Like it's real. While CNN says investigators claim daycares are running totally normally, still doing their weird woke liberal take or whatever. The play that seems to be happening again, whether intentional or otherwise, is that for some reason Candace Owens is recommended to regular people who don't aren't involved in politics. And you'll go on a YouTube they're telling you to watch Candace Owens show. She's telling you that Charlie was a time traveler, that Elon Musk is a robot. These are not exaggerations. Charlie may have been a time traveler and that agents were trying to stop him from changing an outcome. It's really gotten to the insane level. If this continues, and I want to stress this, I'm not saying there's conspiracy there. Its intention is meaningless. Candace Owens is capturing the anti Zionist faction and saying stupid retard things. CBS News is targeting the moderates who left the left and joined the Republicans. I actually think this may show a uni party shift in that they've realized for the sake of the military industrial complex, for the sake of Israel. TikTok we see this with going the woke route has failed them. So now they want to poison the anti Zionist faction with stupidity. As dumb as the woke people were saying, I don't call it woke. Right though it's not the same thing. And they want the moderates, the Tim Pools, the Joe Rogans to be like, oh, what CBS is doing is fantastic. Run by a proud Zionist who's gonna have that slant. This says to me that I'm not so sure Democrats get into power and actually start doing all of these arrests. Sounds to me like what's going to happen is the narrative shift is happening as such so that the MAGA people will be turned into the correct military industrial complex establishment faction, if you get what I'm saying.

[E]

It's been happening to me. The more I get opened up to the liberal economic order, I sort of take it as like you got bricks and you got the liberal economic order. And they're both vying for control of the Suez Canal and the Panama Canal. And so they set up a shop. What's that?

[A]

And Greenland for the same reason.

[E]

Greenland. So they set up shop in the Middle east. And I'm like, look, I don't like being Israel's bitch. I don't want to be another country's bitch. I don't get sucked into war for regime change. But I understand American hegemony. And controlling that Suez Canal.

[A]

And I'm like, Greenland is for the Northwest Passage, Panama is for the Panama Canal. Israel's for the Suez Canal.

[E]

I, I so, okay, Nick, I, I, to be honest, I don't know what your, what your thoughts are right now on everything, but that's kind of where my head's at, is like, maybe I should allow for this military conquest of the Middle east and be happy that.

[A]

We have but attach, attaching that too. Do you think this vibe shift? Right. Trump's going for Greenland and they're acting like they're angry about it. I'm pretty sure the military industrial complex loves what Trump is doing.

[B]

Oh yeah, Venezuela 100%. And that's because, you know, the military industrial complex is permanent. It's a permanent bureaucratic state. And so the goals never change. And you know what has happened, what's remarkable about Trump is one of the only things that has staying power about Trumpism is, is the pivot against China as Trump runs in 16 and says, no, no, China's a real threat. We have to end free trade, put tariffs on them and like seriously confront them in the Pacific. And if you look at like the Biden administration, that's one of the only things that holds over, is the tariffs against China arming Taiwan, sending Pelosi over there, actually undoing strategic ambiguity about whether we would defend them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so when you look at Greenland, Venezuela, Venezuela is the new Monroe Doctrine. That's Laura Richardson, who was the CENTCOM commander under Biden. That's like a Biden era policy to push China out of Latin America. So they love seeing Maduro go. Greenland is, is sort of the same thing. You know, now that the North Pole is melting, like you said, all these sea routes are opening up. The Northwest Passage, Northern Sea route, the Trans Arctic Sea route. And Greenland is gonna be really good real estate. And the reason Trump wants it is because if Denmark owns it, it, they can't defend it. If they can't defend it, China's going to take it. I mean, they got designs on it.

[A]

And it's hard for us to tax and control the rates for ships moving through our passage.

[B]

Well, and I think more importantly, if it's not our clay, China and Russia won't take it seriously. Just like with Ukraine. Ukraine wasn't a NATO member, so Russia tested, they pushed the line. Greenland is, well, it's Denmark, but it's semi autonomous. Is it Protected by Article 5? Will Washington go to war with China if they, if there's an incursion in Greenland, they will test it. So it does need to be our territory apps. And, and you're, you're so on the money about that. It's Panama. I wouldn't even say Suez, I would say Red Sea. Because what's happening is in Yemen, there's a battle between the Emirates and Saudi Arabia. In Somalia, it's a battle with Somaliland and Mogadishu. And the Emirates in Israel are backing up Somaliland because they want, want a port there. In Sudan, the Emirates are backing the rapid support forces. They want a base at port Sudan, they want to control the Red Sea. So. And Iran, it's a Strait of Hormuz. So it does all come down to these choke points. And all the countries are lining up in World War Three, basically China versus the United States.

[E]

It seems like there's a conflation between the Zionist movement of creating a homeland for the Jews and the military industrial complex's alignment to control the Suez and the Red Sea. And that maybe what you're saying that there might be a flip in the narrative to now I'm a proud controller of the Middle east, whatever you want to call it.

[A]

So I, so I have a lot of friends who are very Israel critical and I think that's always fine. And it's funny because the people, so there's Israel derangement syndrome. And these are the people who claim that, like Candace Owens or the people who claim that Charlie was murdered by Israel is Israel derangement syndrome. Like Charlie just got an award by Israel. He did a panel with, I think it was with Andrew Colvitt to try and convince young Gen Z to support Israel. Was it like two months before, before he was murdered. So that's Israel derangement syndrome. Criticizing a government and focusing on the government, I've never had a problem with. But what's happening now with Candace is she's sucking all the air out of the room and sounding like she's retarded. And so again, the point being with cbs, Barry Weiss is looking like a genius fixing a broken news that was biased towards weird woke things like child sex changes. And I think whether it's intentional otherwise I don't know. But, but again, I love what CBS is doing. Like when I'm pulling up articles now and I'm trying to track say like the riots and stuff. CBS is a literally balanced article explaining it where I can say, hey guys, don't look at me. It's a cbs. It's not some right wing publication, it's not some activist. It's a Corporate news outlet saying this. So I think what she's doing is fantastic. Again with the purchase of TikTok, I think they realized this is, this is funny. The one time Democrats and Republicans come together, TikTok after October 7th had a huge surge that appears inorganic to be promoting anti Israel content in favor of Palestine. Whether that's true or not, we don't know. But it does look like it because it was a massive shift in this in a matter of a couple days. Democrats and Republicans all of a sudden agree TikTok must be owned by the United States. Just right when this happens, it's very obvious the issue was Israel. So I'm looking at this and I'm thinking Donald Trump doesn't care, in my opinion, one way or the other. He wants to be supported, he wants to do what's most popular thing. I think he cares about tariffs, I think he cares about the border. But on the foreign stuff he's like, just, you tell me what to do. That's right. I think the military industrial comp complex, which, with its ancillary arms, however you want to describe it, MI6, Mossad, US Deep State, working together, five, I spy all that stuff. They're basically like, okay, if we want support for Ukraine, if we want support for Israel, if we want Venezuela, if we want Greenland, child sex change is costing us elections. Why don't we drop that stuff, pull the moderates back in our boat, prop up somebody who makes the people who oppose us sound like they're retarded. That's what seems to be happening.

[B]

Well, I would say that what happened because I'm totally in agreement with you. You know, there was a statement that was given to the world Jewish Congress about 25 years ago in the 1990s. They call it the state of world Jewry. That's a speech and it was given by some Jewish activist and he said that the American Jewish community is inseparable from Israel. He said, and when Israel gets sick, American Jewry catches a cold. And that's basically what happened after October 7 is that Israel's attack by the Palestinians. And what they saw is that the far left, the radical progressives at Harvard and elsewhere, they supported Hamas, they were sympathetic to the Palestinians. And so all of a sudden these like left wing Democrat Jews like Bill Ackman, Sean McGuire, um, and some of the other notable ones I'm thinking about who, who's the other guy, the tech guy? Jacob Helberg was one of the first like little tech guys to max out his contribution to Trump in March 24. These are all, and many of them gay too by the way, like Jacob Helberg is like a gay liberal Democrat. All these guys are lifelong Democrats. But after October 7th they flipped and became Republicans and it's because Israel is attacked. And they said, oh, and literally Bill Ackman publishes this open letter to Harvard. Oh, I have this epiphany. The left has gone too woke. Censorship is outta control. Harvard needs to have reform. They overthrow Claudine Gay at Harvard and install a Jewish doctor. You know that that's literally who replaces him. And I think that they're sliding into CBS on much of the same kind of sentiment. They're sort of drafting behind the conservatives. They'll these like Jewish people realize that the, the Democrats are beholden to the radical left that are at least going to restrain the Democrat support for Israel. Like in the Biden administration. You know the Biden National Security Council is drafting memos saying you can't give 2,000 bombs, 2,000 pound bombs to Israel. And there were Senate Democrats that wanted oversight. So they said if we want an all out pro Israel policy, Republican Party is open for business. And so that's when all this money came in. And the other thing is it's Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison is tight with Netanyahu. He funded the CBS takeover, he funded the TikTok takeover, he's a donor for Trump and he's basically a conservative. And so what a lot of people don't realize is that so much of the pro Israel stuff has a home in the gop. They're, they're inextricable. You don't get one without the other. And my issue with it is that a lot of Republicans think we are making a deal with them. And the deal is something like, okay, we'll be pro Israel and we'll do some pro Israel things in exchange. We get Republican governance. But we are not in control of this relation.

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[B]

Libsyn and shit, Mary Madison is Ellison is they get their back scratched. We don't get our scratched. We went to war with, with, with Yemen, we bombed Iran, we're going to bomb them again. Do we have mass deportations? Do we have charges for Democrats? No, we don't have anything. So that's my issue with it is people think it's like this deal and Israel's like bane. They come in and they're like, do you feel in charge? It's like, no, I think this gives.

[A]

You power over me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I look at it like, I think the deal is the bigger picture is the liberal economic order control the financial systems and all of these things. I think that the people you mentioned, like, you know, Bill Ekman and stuff, and he writes this big letter and we all praise that. We're like, thank you for saying the right thing. And obviously the reason was that he realized that these far left activists hate Israel and were, you're gonna vote Democrat, they're gonna start going that direction, which is what Biden was kind of doing. I think the stuff Trump promises, I think Trump initially is like, yes, I like these things. But I think there is a deep state. I think there are special interests across the board. The liberal Jewish donors and Democrat, Jewish Democrats now are siding with the Trump administration in many ways because they realize that their cause had lost. I think now the deep state, the military industrial complex, are pressuring the Trump administration. I don't look at it like Israel is controlling everything we do. I look at it like they are a powerful special interest that teamed up with the military industrial complex. And the things Trump says are just whispering sweet nothings into your ear that you were never gonna get in the first place. So when it comes to this, you know, the bigger picture I'm mentioning with will Democrats start arresting people on the right? The reason I think the answer is no is because this has become the home for the establishment. It's becoming the home for the establishment invading foreign countries, taking more land, propping up the Swift payment system, the petrodollar, and they were never gonna give you these things anyway. So there's no real reason to arrest people who won't protest anyway. They'll vote for Trump and Trump will just do what the machine wants him to do for the most part. So why actually go and arrest anybody? I think the zeitgeist will shift. I think that you're going to find the Joe Rogan's, the moderates being like, hey, look, the press is finally cleaning up their act. Everything's good now. They don't care about foreign policy. They're going to go back to watching the game.

[B]

I don't know. I mean, Joe Rogan said it's the Gestapo. He said ICE is the Gestapo.

[A]

That was. That was. That was fake news.

[B]

Oh, he didn't say that.

[A]

So I got caught by this, too. And then I think it was Brianna Morello who put up the correct thing. What he said was, he's like, well, on the right, you've got people saying, why are we allowing these criminals to do these things? You've got rapists and murderers. We've got to use the law enforcement to get him out. And we voted for this. And then the left, you have people saying, we got masked thugs going through our neighborhoods like the Gestapo. They cut the beginning off to make it seem like Joe Rogan was calling the ICE the Gestapo.

[B]

The same time, though, he has said other things where he said, we're not just getting the violent criminals, we're getting all illegals. And he basically said he doesn't support that mass deportation policy.

[A]

And he voted for Trump.

[B]

He did. But I think that people like Joe, they represent, like, a disgruntled normie, because I think Joe is kind of like a center left guy. He's like a civil libertarian, pro weed, social liberal, etc. Wokeism pushed him into Trump's arms.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And he saw in Trump what he wanted to see in Trump. Now that Trump is governing, you know, he's trying to gesture towards the far right or, like, his base, the radical right. Now, guys like Joe and Theo Vaughn and Tim Dillon, they're kind of getting rubbed the other way. And they're saying, oh, I don't know, they seem undisciplined. This seems too hardcore. It's brutal, whatever. And to me, that feels like deja vu from Trump's first term, where it's like people voted for Trump to burn it all down. They were sick of the PC, sick of the wokeness, et cetera. Trump comes in, and what the left does is they kick up so much dirt, they make it so ugly and messy that then normies cry out for normalcy. And they say, oh, you know, everything's just so controversial and contentious. Let's just go back to business as usual. And they kind of acquiesce to the left.

[D]

When you say normies, are you talking about, like, conservatives as well?

[B]

When I say normie, I just mean people that are not, like. I would say I'm, like, on the far right and others on the far left. I see normies as kind of like unaligned, they could go either way, you know.

[F]

Well, Nick, wouldn't you say, like with the, the high profile defects, Jewish defections to the Trump camp, wouldn't you say there's more to do with the left or the Democrat party just becoming like broadly third worldist and because like the criticism of Israel coming from the left is vastly different than from the right or from the right, you know, they're wanting to decouple from Israel for a variety of reasons. But from the left, from my perspective, just seems like pure resentment.

[B]

No, absolutely not. To me what it echoes is what happened in 73, because you know that October 7th is 50 years to the day after the Yom Kippur surprise attack in 1973. Really 10-6-73 was when Egypt and Syria attacked Israel. And what was happening in the 70s is very similar. The Soviet Union put out a resolution in the General assembly and they said Zionism is racism. That was the Soviet Union back that. And then they were supporting Egypt and Syria invading Israel. And so these are all these like Jewish liberal intellectuals in New York. This is their mugging by reality because they said, wait a second now they're, they're left wing, they're liberals, but they said, hold on. The Soviet Union says Zionism is racism. The Soviet Union's backing Egypt and Syria. They're saying the Soviet Union is not our friends. Now they're still liberal, but they say the Soviet Union has to be destroyed because otherwise Israel will be under siege ideologically and militarily. That's exactly what happened here, which is that the far left is saying that Israel is a settler colonial estate. You know, it's a aircraft carrier for the United States, this, that and the other. And you also have the left backing Iran, wanting a rapprochement, giving them the pallets of cash, the $6 billion, what all this kind of stuff, stuff. And so no, I think it's purely out of self interest for Israel. And you know that because you know, when they go to the Republican Jewish coalition, Mark Levin says, you know, you got Muslim communists on one side, he goes, and he got the KKK and the Nazis on the other. They don't draw a distinction between the third world that's on the left and the so called identitarians on the right, like me, they criticize Israel for the right reasons. And by the way, they're still basically like center right liberals like Sean McGuire, Bill Ackman, these guys are not white nationalists now. They're, they', they're like 90s liberals and they get mad at Trump when he wants mass deportations. You know, so it's not like they, it's not like they became base defenders of Western civilization. Unless you're Sean McGuire who said we should self consciously pretend to be defenders of Western civilization. Because Normie, Republicans don't give a about Israel. But if we gesture towards the west, then we're going to get them on our side. So I think it's a very subversive when you really peel back the layers. Bari Weiss, your Mazzoni, they only care about Israel. She's an Israeli spy. Yoramizoni lives in Israel. That is what they are about.

[A]

You think Barry Weiss is an Israeli spy?

[B]

Oh, yeah. I mean, if you know her pedigree, absolutely.

[A]

What is it?

[B]

So after high school she went to Israel and did a fellowship and said she learned how important Israel is. She goes to Columbia University where she starts up the David Project and tries to get all these pro Palestine professors fired in the Middle east studies department department. Goes back to Israel Studies under Yoram Hazoni at the Shalem Center. Then she gets hired right out of that program by Brett Stevens who's like one of the most well known neocons. Gotta start at Jerusalem Post. Then Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal. She, he picks her up as, as her mentor. Then he takes her to the New York Times. That's where she gets her start. Then she starts Free Press and she gets money from Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, Joe Lonsdale. Joe Lonsdale's like a super Zionist.

[A]

Is Peter Thiel.

[B]

Oh yeah. He's in business with Alex Karp who said he. His biggest fear is Christian nationalists are going to defenestrate him because he's a Jew. Yeah. Throw him out of a window. Yeah. And you know, and Jason Horowitz for that. Yeah.

[A]

So funny.

[B]

Funny. But so, yeah, she's like. And then Larry Ellison by CBS as part of Israel's 8th Front campaign to control information. And she gets $100 million payday for the Free Press and gets to run the newsroom and then picks Tony Dokapil as the news anchor who is the Zionist that attacked Ta Nahazi Coates for his anti Israel book.

[A]

Do you think that there is an effort at YouTube intentionally to prop up Candace Owens 100%?

[B]

Well, she's not banned.

[A]

She breaks the rules like crazy.

[B]

Yes. She's on Spotify, YouTube, Apple. As far as I'm concerned, she's never been banned from any of it.

[A]

Yeah. And, but again, it's it, you know, we've talked about. Like, Pizzagate is a good example of how do. How does an intelligence operation control for conspiracy theories? And so with Pizzagate, I'll give you the quick rundown. You get a bunch of emails released by WikiLeaks. In them, there's some weird things. An email that says something like, is it more fun to play Domino's on pizza or on pasta? Now, nobody really knows what any of this means, but all of a sudden on 4chan, someone just claims this means children and they're talking about pedophilia. They then point to a pizza place, claiming it as a basement. There's no basement. What I think happened was the WikiLeaks emails revealed that they were doing drugs and having orgies and stuff, which is what we heard from who. Who's the member of Congress who told us about a bunch of orgies. Do you remember the Cawthorn? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Madison Cawthorn was. They're doing it. Then we got that video of those two guys going at it in the Senate. I think what the WikiLeaks emails revealed is that they're talking about doing drugs and having orgies. And so the deep stays like, this will be nuclear for us in politics and controlling the narrative if this gets out. So they poison the well. They put fake information to drive the community in the wrong direction. Then a guy shows up at a pizza place, fires around into the ground. There's no basement. He then surrenders, and everyone says, wow, you're all insane with Candace. She's adopting the Charlie Kirk conspiracy stuff and making them sound like retards. And she's attacking Israel like crazy, but in the most retarded way imaginable. So for the people that live in this world of Israel, bad Israel, derangement syndrome. She's become the biggest voice. And now they're sounding, I'll put it like this. I have met some really retarded people on the issue of Israel. Don't get me wrong. And then I know a lot of people who are libertarians who are very much just like, the relationship we have them is toxic for us. We shouldn't be funding them. I'm critical of their government. I think Dave Smith's great. He's a friend of ours. I'm a fan of his. He's very critical of Israel and he's rational, reasonable, and he's funny as he does it. I know there are people who are pro Israel who don't like him. I have friends who are pro Israel who don't like him. But at least that conversation is coherent. Candace is getting put propped up recommendations, and there's nothing coherent about anything she says. And so again, the reason I say intention, you decide. But when I see these things happening, I'm kind of like, we don't need to think about conspiracies. We can just tell what the future is gonna look like.

[B]

Yeah, well, when it comes to her, there's a word for this in our community, and it's called kukaree. And Sam Francis was fighting against it. If you read Revolution from the Middle by Sam Francis, who is off the charts brilliant friend of Jared Taylor, used to write for the Washington examiner, he writes an essay and says the biggest enemy of what he called the Middle American radical, or like the Trump base, that that was his word for it, he said, are the kooks that believe everything is like the X Files. You want to talk about immigration, you want to talk about aipac, you want to talk about real things. They want to talk about aliens, flat earth, they want to time travel. And. And there is this, like, there's this temptation. If you believe in one conspiracy, you say, well, what else are they hiding? And there's this draw to just go further, more and more out there. And there's an essay by Cass Sunstein in 2008, him and a buddy, I believe he was from Harvard, he was an Obama speechwriter. And he said, how do we defeat the conspiracy theorists? Do we argue with them? No. We give them a platform. Do we censor them? No, we make a martyrs. He said, we unload the dog and we put out a bunch of stuff that discredits them and they start fighting amongst themselves. So like with 9 11, you talk about dancing Israelis. That's real. He goes, well, what if we said there's holographic planes? There's no planes. Like there never were the Twin Towers, stuff like that. And then you get them all fighting. And they actually wrote that in Project Esther Heritage Foundations, like Project to fight antisemitism.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

They said, we want to exacerbate the divisions and cleavages in the pro Palestine movement. We want to turn them against each other. And what better way to do it than to start to say Israel's top guy, Charlie Kirk, was killed by Israel because he's a time traveler and anyone that just agrees is an Israel shill. There it is.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Because, I mean, that's what I see, like with the anti Israel pushback on Israel, these sorts of things is like, oftentimes, I think for someone that's kind of new to the conversation, new to this entire topic. They end up seeing a lot of anti American, like, Third World rhetoric. That's why you saw like, with the Venezuela invasion, all these people that got like one shot at after October 7th, and they start exploring, okay, maybe there's something here. They were like, like with Tucker where he was like, oh, Venezuela is like this brave. Like they're. They're the last bastion against like gay liberalism. I'm just looking at, like, this is obviously a pro American move that in many ways. I mean, there is some geopolitical implications, but it's detached from the Israel situation. But since they again, are getting a lot of their information from like, third World, this anti Israel sentiment, it like completely poisons the well for them.

[B]

That's so real. And it's funny you say that, because I was watching something from Jeffrey Sachs and I was just like, disgusted. Jeffrey Sachs was like a Jewish major liberal Clinton administration guys on Tucker and Judge Napolitano all the time. And he's always like, literally shaking. Yahoo's a war criminal. Like, this is the worst.

[A]

But.

[B]

And it's like. And all these people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally agree. Then he goes to Serbia for this conference and he's like, the 500 year cycle of European domination is over. And I couldn't be happier. This is awesome. It's China's turn. It's like, like, what the. Like you're some liberal piece of. Same with Max Blumenthal. Same story. Like communist liberal Jew, forever anti Israel guys on the same shows. Tight with Tucker. And when I shot that idiot liberal, he goes, this is terror capitalism, the Zionist plutocrats and their terrorist capitalism.

[D]

I'm not a fan.

[A]

I gotta.

[D]

Well, I'm such not a fan of Max Blumenthal.

[B]

He.

[D]

We had him on the show and he was talking. It was right after October 7th and he was talking about the. The attack on the rave. And I mean, I come from. I'm a musician, I played shows and I have friends that were at the bottle on. And he had.

[E]

He.

[D]

He was like, well, you know, they were just a bunch of druggies. And I'm like, you're just the biggest dirt bag I've ever seen. I couldn't handle it.

[A]

I got a question before we go to our super chats. If you were invited to a private meeting at the White House with Netanyahu, would you take it?

[B]

No.

[A]

You wouldn't do it.

[B]

I like being alive, you know, I do.

[A]

It did.

[E]

I want to have him on the show? We Got to get B. I would watch that.

[A]

Yeah, that be awesome, dude, you got to be on that one.

[E]

I want to hang with B. Cuz we got to talk about Israel and Judaism. First of all, all you Jews out there, you can't have a religion and a culture that's the same name. You have to change the name. So be Israeli culturally, but then have Judaism as your religion. And if you don't believe in God, you're not Jewish. I know.

[A]

Just reformat your tell them, Ian. You explained to them my. So as you know, I did, yeah. They had a meeting and I would, I would take a meeting with any world leader comes to the White House. It was the Blair House, which is in the White House complex, I guess, or it's like the guest house, I would say. I can't believe people would say no to that. You wouldn't, you, you wouldn't go, no, no way.

[B]

I really have nothing to say to him, you know, I mean, I see him as. You mean as like a civilizational enemy of America, basically.

[A]

Would you want to say that to him?

[B]

No, I say it on my show, but no, I don't.

[E]

How do we.

[A]

He's seen clips.

[D]

He's seen clips.

[A]

It was, it was boring. And you know what, man? Like, I've met with prominent people quite a bit, and boy, I gotta tell you, there's something about these high profile people in politics, or maybe it's like they're a big political podcaster. They never shut up or let anyone else talk, you know? You know what I'm saying?

[E]

People like that.

[A]

Yeah. You know, people that just never let anybody get a word in. And that's.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Who could be like that? No, but. So in all seriousness though, I've met with some prominent people at these private meetings and numerous occasions, and they talk about nothing. Nothing. So Netanyahu spent like half the time talking about ancient Greece or something.

[F]

Dang, dude.

[E]

I hang with him even more after that.

[A]

He was like, serious too, actually. You need to understand the legal system as it was intended to be. And I'm like, like I was sitting there just being like, I don't, I don't. Why, why are you telling me this? Like, why are you.

[E]

He was talking about democracy, like the history of democracy.

[A]

Yeah, he was, he was giving us a lecture on the history of democracy to explain about like, why Israel is just. Or something. And I was like, that's. I'm thinking to myself, like, that's great. I'm an American, you know, so. So the Meeting was basically. And then he gets to the meat and potatoes. You need to go to war with Iran.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the room was split. There were some people in the room. I'm not gonna call out the individuals in the room, the journalists and other personalities, because that's their business. But some people were just like, looks Netanyahu dead in the eyes. And they go, young people don't understand the brotherly, angelic connection America has with Israel. And I was just like, wow. And then there was another journalist from the same company who went, oh. And then when. When Netanyahu was like, listen, Iran does not care about us. They do not care about Israel. What do they say? Death to America. And then this, this other personality rolls her eyes and then he goes, once they get the nuclear bomb, it's not for us, it's for you. And she immediately goes, no, it's not. It's like, they will. They will lose it on you. And she goes, no, they won't. And it was actually pretty funny. So, like, the room was pretty split. And it was funny because it was Chatham House rules and house inhabit came in filming and posting pictures and everything. So it's like. And then. And then some reporter misrepresented my. My statements and published them. And I'm like, okay, if you're gonna play this game, that was dirty. What I had said to Netanyahu was their claims that Qatar is paying influencers to be anti Israel. Do you have any evidence of that? And he said, I don't know. I said, okay. Like, he literally didn't give me an answer. And then this journalist wrote Tim Pool claimed Qatar was paying influencers to be anti Israel. And I was like, that's ridiculous.

[E]

Little blow G. Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, first of all, it's Chatham House. You're not supposed to be attributing this stuff to me. And I didn't. I said, this argument is happening. I also said, I told Netanyahu, I said, israel will have no support from the United States in 20 years. I said, at the current rate of things, young people on the left are anti Israel, like, like ideologically. And the right is anti foreign intervention and doesn't want to be involved in your affairs. You go to any young person, they're gonna say, I'm not interested in being involved in this.

[D]

I just.

[E]

I don't know. How do we decouple if we were to decouple from Israel? Isn't that just like throwing in the towel and being, take the Suez, Russia, take global trade hegemony, like Isn't that.

[B]

The end of American.

[A]

Yeah, but the point is we have a major military hub just off the Sinai Peninsula, which allows us ease of access, weapons development. When we, when we, we deposit all these weapons in Israel, we have a massive arsenal right there and the Red Sea as well. And then also with the Saudis giving them weapons.

[E]

Yeah, Nick, you mentioned it was like. Oh, how did you say it? Just a threat to the United States, existential threat or whatever that. But I'm like, how do we escape that connection at this point? The Israeli American collusion or whatever you want to call it. Well, and should we.

[B]

What's funny is that they don't even really. They actually want to decouple. Like, I don't know if you saw, but Netanyahu said we want to be done with American aid in 10 years. And this is an ongoing conversation. This is something.

[A]

What's that Shapiro talks about that.

[B]

He does, yeah. And there was a symposium in Tablet magazine, this Jewish magazine, I think, in 2023, and the symposium was, should we suspend all USAID to Israel? And it's all pro Israel people debating. And the argument from the pro Israel crowd, why should we get rid of the aid? Is because it's golden handcuffs. Eventually a progressive will take power in America and they'll use the aid as leverage to restrain Israel. So to your point, and to your point also, there does seem to be a, an overlap between distinct interests. And by that I mean there is a distinct US Deep state, let's call it like, you know, a homeland force. And then you have the Israeli infiltrators, the ideological Zionist Straussians, the pro Israel lobby on the other side. Now we both have an interest in, let's say, depriving Iran of a nuclear bomb or maybe even of regime change. But I would say there's something more subtle going on, which is that the people in the Pentagon know we have to confront China, but if we confront China, we're gonna need to rebalance our force posture in the world. And that means we can't fight Russia and Europe and fight Iran in the Middle east and fight China and Taiwan. We have to hand off the security responsibility to NATO. That's why we need to get their numbers up. That's why the collective security needs to be France, Germany and the uk, not us. What do you, what do they want to do in the Middle East? Well, Netanyahu said in his address to the joint session of Congress, the Abraham Accords should become the Abraham Alliance. They want a NATO like defensive pact with Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Bahrain, Syria, Lebanon, eventually Iran so that we hand off security to them. And who will run that defensive treaty? Israel. Cuz they're the nuclear country. They have a qualitative military edge guaranteed by the US Congress the most F35s, the rest of it and the Mossad super intelligence so they could do to the Saudis and the Emiratis what they did to the Iranians and Hezbollah and Lebanon. And they all know that. So in other words when we hand off the Middle east to Israel, they are going to run the most important region in the world. If you know about geopolitics, that's the center of the world island because that's the center of Europe, Asia and Africa. That that's bri, that's imec. It's all of it. And then they become a true like global power. That's a concern.

[A]

We're gonna go to your Rumble rants and super chat. So smash that like button. Share the show with every person you've ever met in your life. Call your parents, let them know you love them and that they should watch. Tim cast irl and we're gonna go to that uncensored portion of the show at [e-mail] TimCastirl don't miss it. But before we get into all your Rumble rants and chats, we got some great sponsors. First up we got Tax Network usa. Deal back taxes or have it filed in years. Now it's time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system, which would be awesome. The IRS is fighting back and proving it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than ever before. They're sending out more collection notices, filing more tax liens and collecting billions more than in recent years. If you owe, the IRS can take your wages, bank accounts, Social Security, retirement and even your home if you owe or haven't filed. It's not a question of if the IRS will act, it's when. Right now, Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand and what they can stop before it's too late. Their powerful programs and strategies can save you thousands or even eliminate your debt entirely if you qualify. Don't make a serious mistake representing yourself or calling the IRS on your own, waiving your rights and cost you more money. They are not on your side. Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process of settling your tax matters tax matters once and for all today. Call 1-800-958-1000 or click the link below for your free discovery call with Tax Network usa. Don't the IRS be the first to act. We also have Venice AI, uncensored, privacy oriented AI for those that are using these tools. And I'm a big fan. You know I am. If you watch the Uncensored show, I'm always goofing off. Off. Venice AI is designed for privacy. I asked it, why are you better? And it said, I'm GLM 4.6 running on Venice AI, which offers significant advantages in both privacy and capability. Venice AI is designed with user privacy as a core principle. All your prompt data and response data are stored only in your browser and never on Venice servers. It means your conversations remain private and aren't used to train models without your consent. The platform is also uncensored mean it doesn't filter or restrict your interactions based on content policies. Now, here's where it gets interesting. If you get the Venice AI Pro, go to Venice AI Tim. You get 20% off. You can generate images without any restriction. You get PDF uploads for summaries or insights. The ability to turn off safe mode. The ability to change how it interacts with you by modifying the system prompt. Limitless text and high image limits. Super cool. I use these chats all the time. And the mainstream ones, the leading brands, they lie to you all the time. And I'm not saying Venice is perfect and gets everything right all the time, but it's really annoying when I say, hey, I want an image of Donald Trump on a skateboard. And it goes, we will not make an image of a political person because that's offensive. And, you know, like, what if I want a picture of Elizabeth Warren? It's like Pocahontas. It won't do it, but Venice AI will pretty much do anything. So check it out. Venice AI Tim. 20% off. Shout out. Thanks for sponsoring the show. Let's grab your rumble rants and super chats. All right. Mytho says 1500 paratroopers from 11th Airborne in Alaska have been placed on standby for possible deployment to Minneapolis. I heard that.

[D]

Cinnamon.

[A]

That's crazy.

[F]

I like that. Yeah.

[D]

They're in Alaska, so they'll have the warm weather kits. They'll be ready for Minneapolis.

[A]

Well, they actually.

[D]

They're trained for warfare.

[B]

Right.

[A]

They're gonna back. It's warm here.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Literally. Literally.

[A]

What do you have here? Flan. The man says tap sign. Nothing ever happens. Indeed. Or if it does, it's very, very slow. You know, slow and boring. Slowly and then all at once, because.

[F]

That was the whole, like. Like, I think about, like, South Africa, and they had, like, all these speculations of how it collapsed dramatically, but things just got, like, incrementally worse and no one even really noticed. And so it's like, like, no, nothing ever happens. It just slowly happens. And then as decades go on, suddenly you turn around and you're living, like, in Dune or whatever.

[A]

Yeah. Dotha Dew says for balls for having on NJF would be $100, but you lost 90% value for the inexcusable delay. Well, to be fair, you were booked earlier and you canceled on us.

[B]

That is true. See, but I think they meant, like, the years.

[A]

Well, I've already explained that, and I've been completely honest. We would get banned in two seconds if we had.

[E]

I wish I was on the show with you guys and ye. And Milo.

[B]

Donna, he would have liked you, bro.

[E]

We got along.

[B]

You did. Yeah.

[A]

There is. There is no secret, no excusing it. There's no excuse. The fact is, I. The reason I had said that we needed a news reason to have you on is because they would. They would ban us. They banned our first Alex Jones episode, and they banned our Alex Jones Joe Rogan episode. And I'm like, if he comes on, they're gonna take the episode down in two seconds.

[E]

You gotta unban Nick Fuentes, allow him to create content. If he violates the terms, you can ban that channel. But you don't ban humans. You ban channels if they violate terms.

[A]

That should be the rule. But it's not. But anyway, more importantly, when YouTube was like, okay, we're not gonna do that anymore. We're like, okay, we don't have. We don't have the same thing to worry about. I'm not gonna lie and pretend there's some like. That's literally what happened. The challenge we face, it's actually quite simple. If the show gets taken down, what was the point of doing it right? So we can put on other platforms. We can go on Rumble, which we.

[F]

We do.

[A]

And we have the uncensored portion coming up now. And it's because YouTube is untrustworthy. We. When we did the Alex Jones Joe Rogan episode, we did everything right. We broke no rules. Three years after it, they deleted it. I think. I think it was like. I thought. I think it was three years later. Maybe I was. I was outside of the castle at the time, so it might have been. Dude, might have been two years.

[D]

Yeah, they're currently, like, every once in a while, I'LL get a message from YouTube that they deleted a song that I sang because, like, because of the content of it. And it's like, stuff that I haven't done in. Since 20, like 2020.

[B]

No reason.

[A]

We've. There. There's. There's very few people that were Persona non grata that YouTube was like, we're going to delete right away. Why? What was it?

[B]

What.

[A]

What?

[E]

Do you remember what it was like? Was there a day you did one thing that was like, what?

[B]

Yeah, it was the Griper War. It was. You know, we were going after Charlie Kirk really hard in 2019. And the rumor that I heard this is alleged is that Arthur Schwartz, Don jr's fixer, put in a call to Google and got my channel taken down. That was a rumor that I heard. I don't know if that's true because we got Don junior Boot off the stage at UCLA when he did a thing with Charlie Kirk. Um, but they. They got me on hate speech or, you know, whatever. They didn't give me a. A specific example, a show, whatever. They just pulled me out about two months after that happened.

[A]

So before we had Alex Jones on, I emailed our Google rep and said, I know Alex Jones is Persona non grata. Is there an issue with him coming on Tim cast irl? And she said, no, he can appear on other shows, but he's not allowed to have his own channels. Okay, what was it like a day later? They deleted it a day after. And so we were like, okay. I called up Michael, Malice and Jones and I said, you have to come back right now. I'm gonna give a big middle finger to YouTube. We'll do it again. And then that one stayed up and. But we've had a series of personalities, and you are like the most banned person. So it was just, we're gonna get the show taken down. We needed something that was news, relevant, where we'd be like, we have to have Nick on, otherwise they would just delete it. And even if we did, they still might delete it. In recent history, they've said, we're relaxing on it. And we're like, okay, let's book Nick. We don't have much to worry about. And we have Myron on. And there's a thing that, you know, what I don't tolerate and I don't care for. I know I'm going to get a lot of people being like, why would you have Nick Fuentes on? He said he liked Stalin and Hitler and all these other things, and I'm like bro, we've had on communists who are like I'm going to frame from saying the worst thing imaginable. So I'll just, I'll keep it. Like we've had on really despicable leftists and no one's ever yelled at me for it. So I'm going to have people on and we're going to talk and we're going to talk about issues. That's just it. And I really don't respect the like if we have you on it has to be a struggle session kind of thing. I'm like guys, there's, there's, there's a reason why Nick has an audience of people listen to him. The areas where we'll disagree, we'll disagree. But this is a news show. We pull up topics and you talk about it.

[C]

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[A]

It would be the stupidest thing in the world. I said instead of doing the news tonight on Tim Castile we're just going to ask Nick about his opinions and then criticize him for them. Them we don't do that to people. So I'm not going to play this game where we ignore prominent personalities with opinions people don't like. And I'm not going to bring people on just to struggle session them be that a leftist either. We had on a communist and we argued quite a bit about the Aaron good shooting. No one comes to me and said she's a proud overt communist and all the despicable things that come with this and no one complained.

[E]

I'm just going to say for the record, Hitler was great and I mean that by in scope and stature.

[B]

That's why I wanted you on.

[E]

It's like Alexander the Great. He was a psychotic murderer, wasn't a good guy but he was great in scope and scale as was Hitler. The largesse of his knowingness has all encompassing. Everyone pretty much knows who he is so that he was.

[A]

Ian's just trying to push punch.

[E]

Did you like that one?

[A]

He was just trying to piss people off because he knows they're gonna clip it.

[E]

And Hitler was great, you know, wasn't even good. But you could argue that he was.

[A]

Great because people think great means good when great means of magnificence.

[E]

And great could mean evil. It could mean very evil.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I said the same thing to Tommy G. I did an interview. It's funny you say that because I said the exact same thing. I was like, these are great leaders. And he was like, oh my gosh, I can't. I'm like, good and great are not the same thing.

[D]

He reminds me of awesome is not always good.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

Or Quill or anything.

[A]

I can, I can help millennials understand this. The scene in Harry Potter when Snape has to do the Unbreakable Vow with Draco Malfoy that he will kill Dumbledore. And he goes, he's like, he says something like, you're trusting the boy to kill a great wizard. He goes, oh. And he goes, dumbledore is a great wizard. Only a fool would say otherwise. They're the bad guys who don't like Dumbledore. And his point was, even though they're enemies, you have to recognize he's powerful and. Agreed. I like, like, I, I, I always hate the thing where it's like, and I think you were talking about on the Green Room podcast, when the subject, subject of Hitler comes up, you have to just run through all the condemnations. It's like, we get it. Hitler was a really bad guy.

[F]

Land acknowledgments.

[A]

Hitler sucked. He was stupid. He was on meth.

[F]

Anyway, I gotta ask you, because I'm like new to the game. Went the Kanye episode. Was the evac, like plan?

[A]

No, I don't believe you.

[B]

My right, if it was, I wasn't in on it. My right hand of God. Because, you know, we went there and he was a little apprehensive, I'm gonna be honest with you. You, because we flew in a year old place in West Virginia and we went out, we got. What is that, a hibachi?

[A]

We got Frederick, Maryland.

[B]

And he was getting really like frustrated. He was getting a little antsy, you know, because I think he's a little maybe self conscious about talking about politics because we're learning a lot of stuff in a short amount of time. And we pulled up and I think that was it. I think he was a little nervous and you know, and then I think you pressed him a little bit.

[A]

I didn't Even press him.

[E]

No, you. You said something, and then you were like, no, you cut off Nick, and. Yeah, it was like, I'm done with it. He ain't listening.

[B]

You were like, who's them? Who's them?

[A]

No, no. He said, oh, yeah. Who is they, though?

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

I said, I don't like corporate elites and, like, the establishment military. And he was like. And he got up and stormed up.

[B]

He was already mad, so. But no, if there was, I wasn't in on it, and I don't think it was.

[A]

We had, like, 200,000 concurrent viewers at the time. It was massive.

[B]

I remember. Yeah, it was. It was.

[A]

And then he started smack. He smack talked me on Alex Jones, which is amazing.

[F]

He was.

[B]

Kept saying, nobody knows.

[A]

Closed. What do you say?

[B]

Pools closed?

[A]

Let's grab some more of these rumble rants. We'll talk more about the crazy stuff. We'll go to the uncensored portion of the show where we can say we can get in the nitty gritty of all this stuff. All right, let's see. We got here grandstanding and hot doggin. Good name. If you think anything will happen to Don Lemon, then I've got an Egyptian plane to sell. You shout out to me, mom. Well, tell me the price, because Harmeet Dillon, I. Of all the people in the doj, she's the one person I think means business. It doesn't mean you're gonna get charges. She might try and push for charges, but nothing might happen. So we'll see. Let's see. We got here. Let's see. I don't know how to say that. Quaker got my America first hat a few days ago, and I've been wearing it to work. It's only liberal white women that get butthurt over it. No one else has said anything negative about it. Keep up the work, brother.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

And while we're here, shout out to South. If you're watching this, I hope you're winning big stacks at the poker table. There's a dude that I play poker with sometimes who always wears the blue America first. Oh, sweet. And he doesn't talk politics, but he's a big fan of yours. And there's another guy at the table, Ken, who is a super lib who thinks he's not a lib, but he wears the in this house shirt. Oh, you know, and then, you know, I'm.

[E]

I'm.

[A]

I hope I'm not blowing you guys up, but they're both really cool. Even. You know, someone told Ken that I was Badmouthing him. I'm like, never. I was like, I said you were my best friend. He's a liberal. He doesn't like me. He's always complaining about the videos I make. But yeah, we joke with each other. He, we get, we get along. He's like, we talk more than anybody when we're at the poker room and then South. Never says anything about politics because he knows it's going to go off, you know, but it's, it's good fun. Everybody gets along. Funny story is we were playing poker. It's a 25 game, so it's a thousand dollar buy in and we're all talking politics and it's, it's getting heavy. There's a couple liberal guys at table and we're all going like, yeah. And the liberal guy says, well, look like I understand what you're saying about Trump, but you know, where I grew up and what we were dealing with. And we're like, oh yeah. Then at the other table next, we heard screaming. This is a true story. I swear to God. It's like two months ago. And the, the floor boss comes over and said, what's going on? And they're yelling at each other, top of their lungs, arguing about college football. And I'm like, we all look over like, geez. And I was like, look at us talking politics. Nobody's got a problem. All right, what do we got here? Speed bump says, is Nick gonna slap down his wife Candace for the issue? Talked about. Tim, keep your be in a line, bro.

[B]

Well, yeah, I am gonna put her in line. Very inappropriate what she said about you. Well, I'm word with her around the.

[A]

Same time you were calling her out. I called her out. I praised you calling her out. You, I think you said something about me calling her out.

[B]

It was awesome. Yeah, it was like the rebel yell. You like, rallied the troops. Seriously. Because, you know, no, I think a lot of people are afraid to take her on because she's got a big audience and because people, let's be honest, a lot of people in the space feel they need to pander to like the dumbest people in the room that believe in like eight, like the craziest shit imaginable. And so nobody was saying anything. I took a lot of heat from my community for saying like, no, Israel didn't kill Charlie Kirk.

[A]

They said, you got the call.

[B]

Yeah, right. Which is like, what, what universe are we in where I'm the Israel shill and Charlie Kirk was the martyr for the Third Reich or something? Right. Like what the. So that was insane. And then you came out of your.

[A]

Like, you're a.

[B]

Well, you said the C word, which.

[A]

Is very, very important.

[B]

That's a.

[A]

That's a hard word. I was ready to, like, flip the table over because we got shot at.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then she said that I was lying about it. And I. I get A lot of people said that. And she. She misconstrued a story to make it seem like. I'll just use the quote. It's the easy way to explain it. She said the shooting that Tim Pool survived was committed by his brother. And then people are tweeting at my brother and posting pictures of him. It's just fabricated. Not true. In psychotic insanity. And then I was told, and I probably regret saying this because it was off camera, that she doesn't have security and she doesn't take it seriously. And then I was just. I was pissed off. Like, we have to spend an insane amount of hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the budget is just getting insane. And someone literally drove by and took a shot at our property. Three shots. And she's talking about all, oh, they're going to kill me. I got assassination threats. And so I just lost it. And then I, like, slammed my fist on the table and I called her a degenerate C word. I apologize for that, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because she walked back some of what she said. And then I apologize for that, saying it is unbecoming of a gentleman. And I think I can articulate my thoughts much better. I got some emails from people that were like, I'm a huge fan, but it's ungentlemanly. And, like, my. Like, the general thing about swearing on the show is that people will turn the show on in their living room while their kids are doing their homework and stuff.

[E]

Right.

[A]

And so then when I lose it, there's no censorship. We don't have a dump button or anything like that. Their kids just go, whoa, what happened?

[F]

And they're like, dude, sometimes you got to cook, sometimes you get your bag.

[B]

Yeah, well, look, man, someone cooked here.

[A]

I will.

[C]

I will.

[A]

I will say this. The funniest thing in the world to me is the. The claim that people. I'm paid by somebody to say something. I'm like, I just want to make sure everybody understands this. There's no reality where someone who's under the. On the payroll would have temper tantrums the way I do. Seriously, like, just getting pissed off. And there's, like, slamming my fist on the table and screaming about Candace that way is Never happening on a paid network. This. It's not gonna happen. In fact, if I worked for a network, they probably would have been like, you need to issue an apology immediately. Like, you can't do. Could you imagine if, like, Jesse Waters did that? Yeah, right. No way. No way. But let's. We got a few minutes to grab some more of these super chats, and I think we got some. Oh, YouTube. You're always giving me the business. I think YouTube just deleted them all. See, that's what I'm saying. There we go. I got them. There's always something. YouTube's weird. Like there. There are some. We have some guests on, and all of a sudden the YouTube lags and doesn't work.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

And the Rumble's totally fine. So we're like, it's not us. Because Rumble is running perfectly and, you know, I don't know, conspiracies. All right, Leroy says, y' all ready for this entire show to be about Candace Owens? A little bit. A little bit. It was a little bit quantum strange. Quark says lemons. Excuse if I didn't know where they were going isn't going to fly. As soon as he saw that their target was a church and he proceeded anyway, he was complicit, but he knew exactly what they were doing. So let's be honest, there was, you know, the one. Oh, here we go. One of the problems with YouTube is that super chats don't appear in the super chat tab, but they'll appear in the chat anyway. Lego ma says Tim, in the past, you have pointed out how Candace Owens functions to drive away moderates. Nick is only marginally less ridiculous than Candace and only marginally more capable of presenting a veneer of diplomatic and pragmatic behavior. Don't complain when the woke win. I would. I would. I would also have Candace on the show. I would talked about it. It. And the only reason I'm apprehensive about that when, like, people have asked me is like, because. Because there's. There's a hard beef where it's like, she's accused my brother of trying to murder me and I called her a C word. I'll have communists on the show. Like, Myron Gaines is controversial. People get mad at me. I'll have him on the show. Nick is on the show. It is what it is. So if Candace came on the show and talked, my only concern there is beefing the whole time about things unrelated to anything substantive. What are you gonna do?

[E]

You know, it'd be great.

[A]

I don't know if you wanted to respond to that because they're saying you're only marginally better than Candace.

[B]

I mean, I understand why, like a normie Republican would feel that way, but I think when I talk about her poisoning the well, I mean, she's poisoning the well for the, for the radical right, for the hard right, far right, whatever you want to call it. There is legitimate faction in the right wing that follows me and has my politics. And you could describe that as, say, pro white immigration, restrictionist Israel, critical, you know, something Christian nationalist. There's a significant faction there and you can't alienate those people.

[A]

So the friends of mine that are Jewish have expressed concern to me the first time you came on with yay. That you were just going to mock Jews in general. And it's like, you know, Jon Stewart talks about the disproportionate representation of Jews in tech and media, and that's not a secret. They have a lot of power in these areas. And so that criticism, even Jon Stewart, who's Jewish, points out, but they expressed to me that from your content, they feel like you're attacking the run of the mill, working class Jewish guy.

[B]

Working class? What is that like? They run the banks. Working class. That's a joke. But.

[A]

No, but we're in the working class.

[B]

We're running the bank. No, but. So here's the thing. When it comes to Jews, I guess I would say that there is something intrinsic in Judaism that, that is inextricably connected to these issues that we discuss now. You know, I would never say anything like I hate all of them or, or something like, I don't want them to have rights or this, that or the other. As I was saying in the interview with redheaded libertarian just a moment ago, I think they should have their rights protected, their dignity protected. They're part of America. They're inextricably part of America. And the American story, however, we have to acknowledge, and you said this earlier, Judaism is bound up with their ethnicity. It's an ethno religion, meaning that it, it's passed down by the, by the maternal line. You're Jewish because your mother is Jewish. And, and what that lends itself to is that they're very tribalistic. And so even your working class Jew, maybe they're not pulling the strings, maybe they're not in charge, but they're deeply apprehensive about populism, nationalism.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because the stronger and more homogeneous and cohesive the country becomes, the more it could potentially be unified against them.

[D]

You Think that has something to do with the fact that they're a diaspora.

[B]

Yes. And that's the tension which Peter Brimo talked about, Tucker, today to.

[A]

Oh, okay, but to, not to get all cliche on you, but the obvious thing is because I'm not talking about people who are like practicing. I'm talking about someone who's Jewish. They don't worship really all that often. It's just they have Hanukkah and things like that, and they don't really pay attention to politics. They don't really care for any of this stuff. You've got these, you've got Hasidic Jews in New York protesting against Israel and support for. So it's like it runs the gamut, obviously. But my point is there are a lot of people that are totally disconnected from this who happen to be Jewish. I understand your point about ethno religion, but they're not advocating for politics. They're not overtly political. And that's why they don't like you, because they feel like they get roped into something they're not involved in.

[B]

See, I disagree because I think that, you know, because Jewish people, if they identify as Jewish, they're Jewish. And one of the only things that most Jews agree on is like the legacy of the Holocaust. There was like an opinion survey done on this by Pew, and I don't think it's even the majority of them believe in God or temple sacrifices and things like that. The one thing they all agree on is like the legacy of the Holocaust. And so what they see themselves as is a minority. They don't celebrate Christmas, they're not Christians, they're not white, but they're also not non white. And so what they are is basically like the eternal minority. They're kind of like the ultimate minority. And so what that kind of has is like a built in identity politics. As the minority. You kind of have like a certain political outlook, which is to say that you're looking out for minority rights. Like, why do you think so many Jews were in favor of getting rid of the national origins quotas for immigration? Because those were used against Jews coming here from Russia and they were against all the quotas and the universities because they were used against Jews. Didn't matter if they believed in God. You know, Larry Ellison doesn't believe in God. Yeah, but they see themselves, I think.

[F]

Atheist.

[B]

Yeah, I believe so.

[A]

He doesn't practice Judaism well, but atheism and practicing religion.

[B]

I think he might be agnostic, but they, they see themselves as basically part of this besieged tribe. And so they have the siege mentality, even if they're not religious. Like many of these lefting ones are kind of like, oh, I. I don't really like the way some of these progressives sound. It's making me. That sounds anti Semitic. Like, what if. What if America becomes a country that's inhospitable to us as a people? So. So that's really the issue. It's that minority status which is bound up with their identity.

[A]

We're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the [e-mail] timcastirl so smash the like button. Share the show with every single person you've ever met. I got a lot of questions based on what you're talking about with race and ethnicity. So we're gonna jump over the uncensored portion of the show. I think it's gonna get really interesting. So make sure you guys go there again. Rumble.com TimCastirl you can follow me on X and Instagram. Castle. Nick, did you want to shout anything out?

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Yeah. I'm on Rumble at NickJ. Fuentes Monday through Friday.

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And Instagram. Eeltape Brown. And also on the Culture War Channel and Connor Tomilson's channel. Some new episodes of across the Pond Up. I know you guys love that show, so go check it out.

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We will see all of [e-mail] Timcast IRL where things are about to get really interesting. Check it out.

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