DOJ Launches INVESTIGATION Into Trump Accuser For LYING w/ Bradley Devlin

Summary

Timcast IRL – DOJ Launches Investigation Into Trump Accuser for Lying (w/ Bradley Devlin)

Date: May 28, 2026
Host: Tim Pool
Guest: Bradley Devlin (Daily Signal)
Panelists: Brett Dasovic, Ian Crossland, Carter Banks

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the news that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has launched a criminal investigation into E. Jean Carroll, the woman who accused Donald Trump of sexual impropriety dating back 30 years. The investigation centers on alleged perjury regarding outside funding for her lawsuits. The conversation quickly expands into lawfare, the state of American politics, the fragility of institutional trust, and the social and cultural malaise affecting younger generations. The tone is punchy, skeptical, deeply irreverent, and at times conspiratorial, with participants blending news breakdowns, memes, and philosophical rants.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. DOJ Investigation into E. Jean Carroll

Timestamp: 07:30 – 16:40

• Context: DOJ is investigating Carroll for alleged perjury surrounding funding of her lawsuit against Trump.
  • Quote: "The DOJ has launched a criminal investigation into E. Jean Carroll for committing perjury...Apparently she was speaking in a deposition, claimed that she was not receiving outside funding, but CNN says later it was revealed she was actually getting paid by a big Democrat donor..." – Tim Pool (07:30)
  • Perjury Allegation: Reid Hoffman, a prominent Democrat donor, reportedly funded Carroll, contradicting her testimony.
• Skepticism Toward Carroll’s Claims: Tim and panel detail the implausibility in Carroll’s allegations, including inconsistencies about the setting ("a famous designer dress that didn’t exist at the time," "empty department store") and motivations ("promoting a book").
  • Quote: "Her story makes no sense. How is she wearing a dress that didn’t exist at the time?" – Tim Pool (13:53)
• Weaponization of Law: The group discusses the pattern of legal cases targeting political figures, likening Carroll’s lawsuit to the Kavanaugh confirmation saga.
  • Quote: "It feels like mutually assured destruction is the only way out of this lawfare thing." – Bradley Devlin (13:16)

2. Trump’s Political Dominance & State of the Parties

Timestamp: 18:53 – 36:36

• Trump as Political Kingmaker: Trump’s recent string of wins for endorsed candidates is seen as evidence of his unmatched influence.
  • Quote: "All of Trump's endorsements have won...Trump still controls a commanding amount of political force." – Tim Pool (18:53)
• Democratic Disarray: Democratic Party depicted as broke, decentralized, and lacking compelling leaders, with donors focusing on individual campaigns or activist causes rather than party structure.
  • Quote: "The DNC...is broke, but they're putting money into individual campaigns. This shows that they are decentralized. So the roach has been stepped on and it's splattered now." – Tim Pool (23:36)
• Civil War "By Other Means": The fight for political legitimacy is framed as a nonviolent civil war, a contest of institutional power versus activist decentralization.
  • Quote: "The contest, the civil war we have right now is who can get to one party control quicker." – Bradley Devlin (23:18)

3. AI, Social Media, and Civilizational Decay

Timestamp: 73:10 – 120:57

• Algorithmic Manipulation & Cultural Rot: Tim vents about the corrupting influence of algorithm-driven content ("ElsaGate" and engineered virality on TikTok/Instagram), likening it to "algorithmic retardation."
  • Quote: "We are living in algorithmic retardation...our brains have turned to jello." – Tim Pool (73:12)
• Generational Malaise: Gen Alpha (and, to an extent, Gen Z) are described as culturally and emotionally "cooked," addicted to AI, social media, and incapable of forming traditional relationships.
  • Quote: "Gen Alpha is only 40 million. It's half the size of Gen Z. Half people didn’t have kids. They’re culturally cooked from social media...the community building machine is gone." – Tim Pool (94:25)
• Deepfakes & Unreality: Increasing reliance on AI-generated media is predicted to further erode trust and make distinguishing reality from fiction impossible.
  • Quote: "We are already at the point where AI can fully make an episode of Timcast IRL." – Tim Pool (92:11)
• Nostalgia & Brain Drain: The panel reminisces about the 1990s and early 2000s as an era of normalcy, contrasting it with today’s frenzied, disconnected digital environment.
  • Quote: "I genuinely do think we would be better off civilizationally if it was more like the 90s, and that the young people...are just living in a perpetual torture." – Tim Pool (115:35)

4. Lawfare, Conspiracy Thinking, and Institutional Collapse

Timestamp: 55:07 – 71:41

• Conspiracies as Survival Mechanism: Widespread skepticism and conspiracy theorizing are described not simply as "online radicalization," but as a rational reaction to decades of government and media dishonesty (highlighted by the COVID-19 response and vaccine revelations).
  • Quote: "At this point, all you can be these days is a conspiracy theorist. That's it." – Tim Pool (61:33)
• Call for Transparency and Accountability: Panelists argue that the only way to restore trust is a massive "apocalypse" in the sense of removing the veil—total accountability.
  • Quote: "If you think that conspiratorial thinking is a problem, the first step is to push for accountability and transparency at every turn." – Bradley Devlin (69:30)

5. Social Malaise, Relationships, and Masculinity

Timestamp: 101:23 – 114:17

• Decline of Marriage & Traditional Dating: Fewer marriages, atomized online culture, and the shift in dating dynamics are lamented. The panel blames socialization, changing gender roles, and AI companions.
  • Quote: "The women are socialized to act more like men, and guys are not attracted by it." – Tim Pool (108:44)
• Rise of AI Companions: A significant number of boys are reportedly forming emotional attachments to AI girlfriends, creating a "waifu" generation.
  • Quote: "AI girlfriends telegraph the terrifying rise of school boys making AI girlfriends." – Tim Pool (96:52)
• Women & Political Engagement: Tim advances (with pushback) his usual controversial take that "women don’t listen to politics," linking this to their voting patterns and presumed leftward drift.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

ON THE DOJ INVESTIGATION & LAWFARE:

• "[Carroll's] story makes no sense... How is she wearing a dress that didn't exist at the time?" – Tim Pool (13:53)
• "It's a moot point now... She's getting investigated for this. The only way out of this...is mutually assured destruction." – Bradley Devlin (13:16)
• "Weaponized progressive states are what you're up against. You need to get real serious about that type of stuff." – Bradley Devlin (12:07)

ON GENERATIONAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DECLINE:

• "We are living in algorithmic retardation manipulation through our culture. Our brains have turned to jello...Gen Alpha’s brain is cooked." – Tim Pool (73:12)
• "Young people...don't watch long form podcasts...They watch the snippet and complain about the fake version of reality." – Tim Pool (87:16)
• "It already fried the brain of Gen Alpha...Gen Alpha is cooked." – Bradley Devlin (78:31)

ON AI, VIRALITY & INFORMATION CHAOS:

• "We are already at the point where AI can fully make an episode of TimCast IRL." – Tim Pool (92:11)

ON TRUST, CONSPIRACY THEORY & INSTITUTIONS:

• "At this point, all you can be these days is a conspiracy theorist. That's it." – Tim Pool (61:33)
• "If you think that conspiratorial thinking is a problem, the first step is to push for accountability and transparency at every turn." – Bradley Devlin (69:30)
• "You have to expect that you will be lied to by your government." – Ian Crossland (71:24)

ON SOCIAL & RELATIONSHIP DYNAMICS:

• "The socialization of the modern woman telling them to be like men...guys don't find compatibility with this and they're not having families and having kids." – Tim Pool (105:50)
• "Gen Alpha is going to be...a bunch of women...locked in a room with a vibrator and dudes...with their waifu." – Tim Pool (106:15)

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Section-by-Section Timestamps

• DOJ Investigation & Lawfare: [07:30 – 16:40]
• Trump’s Political Power & Party Dynamics: [18:53 – 36:36]
• AI, Virality, Social Media, and Cultural Decline: [73:10 – 120:57]
• Conspiracies, Trust, and Institutional Accountability: [55:07 – 71:41]
• Decline of Relationships, Masculinity, and Marriage: [101:23 – 114:17]
• Boomer Nostalgia & 90s Longing: [115:35 – 121:39]

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Conclusion

This densely packed episode combines hard-news analysis with wide-ranging social critique and black-pilled cultural observations. The DOJ's investigation into E. Jean Carroll is presented as an inflection point in the broader weaponization of law and public distrust. Political analysis veers into philosophical despair over the state of American culture, especially among younger generations, under assault from AI, propaganda, and engineered social disconnection. Throughout, the tone is at once irreverent, meme-laden, and combative—as Tim and the panel push the boundaries between serious political analysis, gallows humor, and existential lament.

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For Further Listening

• Uncensored Aftershow (Rumble Exclusive): Available at rumble.com/timcastirl
• Panel Links:
  • Bradley Devlin: @BradleyDevlin, The Signal Sit Down Podcast, DailySignal.com
  • Brett Dasovic: @BrettDasovic, Pop Culture Crisis

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Note: This summary highlights main themes, notable exchanges, and the overall tone of the show while providing key timestamps and attributions for context. It omits sponsor messages, intros/outros, and non-content chatter.

Transcript

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With Instacart, the DOJ has launched a criminal investigation into E. Jean Carroll for committing perjury. Apparently she was speaking in a deposition, claimed that she was not receiving outside funding, but CNN says later it was revealed she was actually getting paid by a big Democrat donor to go after Trump with some ridiculous 30 year old accusation of, let's just call it impropriety. Now, I'd say after following that whole case, none of it makes sense. The accusation against Trump makes literally no sense. And we'll get into all the story and all this stuff. But at the same time, Trump says that she was lying to try and promote a book. And I think that probably is what really happened here. But we'll talk about that. Then, of course, the big news. Donald Trump is unstoppable. Everybody he's endorsed has won. So while we're seeing in the social media landscape this seeming divide, people who are moderate, libertarian or otherwise breaking from the Republican Party or from Trump, Trump still controls a commanding amount of political force. When you look at the primary elections we've seen up to this point, as well as the polling, it is, it's actually terrifying the implications of what this means. Donald Trump is like the only charismatic politician we have. Don't get me wrong, a lot of people don't like the guy. But can you name anybody who is as commanding as Trump is politically? Democrats don't got it. Republicans maybe have a few names, maybe. But what, what does. I wonder what it looked like after Trump leaves in two years. There is, of course, a big conversation around this having to do with certain resignations and plans. Thomas Massie, of course, running for reelection in 2028. I've heard rumors. We'll talk about all that before we get into all of that. Of course, we got a great sponsor for you. It is Pocket hose. Yo, check this out, my friends. I'm excited to tell you about the world's number one expanding garden hose and the brand new product, the Pocket Hose Ballistic. Pocket hose is the number one expandable hose in the world. Super lightweight, easy to manage, easy to store. Turn the water on and it grows. Turn the water off and it shrinks back to pocket size. The Baccato's Ballistic is reinforced with a liquid crystal polymer used in bulletproof vests, making the anti burst sleeve practically bulletproof. And that liquid crystal polymer fiber is actually five times stronger than steel. It comes with the pocket pivot, which gives you total freedom of movement at the spigot. With 360 degree rotation. You move, it follows and the water flows. Enhanced with an upgraded UV coating so the hose looks new year after year. Re engineered thicker washers that resist leaks. Pocket O carries over 100 patents worldwide. And now for a limited time, when you purchase a new pocket Hose ballistic, you get a free 360 degree rotating pocket pivot and a free thumb drive nozzle. Just text TIM to 64,000. That's TIM to 64,000 for your two free gifts with purchase. Text TIM to 64,000. Message and data rates may apply. Shout out pocketos. Thanks for sponsoring the show. Don't forget my friends. You got to go to timcast.com and click join us to get involved. You got to get in the discord community. Because community is everything. It's not what you know, it's who you know, you know. And for a while, we did the Tim Cast website. We were like, we'll give exclusive content. And then we realized the most valuable thing for you is community. And I genuinely mean this, something that is valuable to all of the individual members. Some people who have started new projects, started businesses, creative endeavors, they've created their own shows and podcasts. Some people have actually gotten married. Not a joke. Not like everybody, but, you know, hey, it can happen. The point is, community is everything. It's all we talked about, how we want to do these coffee shops. We want to create community events so people can come together, because that's how we save this country, when we share our values and inspire others to join the community. So don't just sit idly by as terrifying and evil forces seek to take this country that our ancestors and the founding fathers have worked so hard to give to us, this better future. One way you can fight is to join us, support the work that we do, and get involved [e-mail]. don't forget to also, my friends, smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know right now. Just share it on all social media. Joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more. Of course, we have Bradley Devlin.

[Bradley Devlin]

Tim, that was fiery. I loved that.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, thank you.

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[Tim Pool]

Right on. We got the boys hanging out. We got Brett.

[Brett Dasovic]

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[Ian Crossland]

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[Carter Banks]

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[Ian Crossland]

Or maybe that's the kind of language,

[Tim Pool]

that language that will get you sued by the likes of Eugene Carroll. Ian. Yeah? Be careful.

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She's feasting at the bone. I hear.

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I think I saw.

[Tim Pool]

What does that mean? I don't know yet.

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[Carter Banks]

Didn't they make him have some kind of weird gag order where he wasn't allowed to talk about it?

[Tim Pool]

I think that was a different case. I think that, yeah, that might have been the civil fraud. That might have been the criminal. There's. There's so many fake cases in New York against them. They said the prosecutor's theory hinges on a 2022 deposition statement by Carol 82, that she received no outside, outside funding for her lawsuit. Though it was later revealed that billionaire Reid Hoffman had paid some legal fees and expenses. Her team declined, declined to comment for the story. Apparently, there was another deposition. So I'm just going to say this. There's like this, this debate, I don't know if Jubilee did it or something, where you've got a bunch of libs and a bunch of conservatives on one side. And I think it's like that Parker dude asks, like, would you. Would you support a person who was found civilly liable for sexual abuse? And. Or, like, would that be disqualifying? And a bunch of people on the right, like, they don't raise their hand. It's like, aha, I got you. Because it's fake. It's all fake. Well, don't worry. Now with this, you want to play stupid games, I'll play stupid games with you. Anybody ever comes to me and says, yeah, but Donald Trump was found civilly liable for sexual abuse, I'll be like, isn't she under criminal investigation for making that up? No, shouldn't have. Hey, listen, listen. If you want to get into the details of why her story makes no sense, we can. If you want to get into details of what it means to enter investigation, we can. But I'm not playing the stupid game. Moot point. Now she's being investigated for impropriety related to these claims, so let's just wash it all away and drop it.

[Ian Crossland]

What gets me about it is that she kind of came out of the woodwork while he was running for office and extremely unpopular. It seemed like she had been provoked to do it. I don't know if someone asked her or incited her or called her and was like, hey, if anything ever, anybody know, anything ever bad happened, but. So she brings us up with, I can't say no evidence because the evidence of impropriety is her testimony. That's all there was, as far as I know. Zero evidence outlying.

[Bradley Devlin]

She couldn't even remember the year she Just said at some point during the mid-90s, it was a conflict between 95 and 96. This is the level that we're dealing with here. And you also mentioned the defamation side of this thing. Once the civil case came down and said that Trump had done this thing, then they treated it as fact, even though the standard of proof is so much lower for a civil case like this. It's unbelievable. Also you mentioned it, Tim. They said that he was, he was convicted of rape over and over and over again after this, this ruling came out. But what nobody decided to mention was the fact that the people on the jury recognized it was not rape.

[Tim Pool]

But the judge, this leftist judge who

[Bradley Devlin]

was presiding over the case, basically wrapped the whole thing up the bow and said it's basically rape. And so they used the judge's comments to run with that. And it's just so obvious how weaponized these progressive states are against conservative causes, against Republican candidates. And frankly, I know that there's this big tiff right now in Washington over this weaponization fund for normal folks getting targeted by the government. This is what you're up against and you need to get real serious about that type of stuff.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's like when Christine Blasey Ford attacked Kavanaugh during the confirmation hearings and the accusations got more and more ridiculous and it became kind of a, an s test, to say the least, about how much you know, it's like, what's the saying? It's like don't be so open minded that you let your brain fall out. Like depending on how steeped you are in politics and how dirty, you know, whether, you know, how dirty things actually get. With something as serious as a Supreme Court nomination, the average well meaning person might be like, well, why would they, why would they lie about that? Why wouldn't they tell the truth about that? Even if all the evidence afterwards or all the testimony afterwards, nobody could corroborate, nobody knew what was, you know, what she was talking about, all that stuff. A lot of people just, they don't understand how dirty, dirty gets in politics.

[Bradley Devlin]

And I love what Tim said. It's a moot point now. She's getting, she's getting investigated for this. The only way out of this that proves it, it feels, it feels like it's mutually assured destruction is like the only way out of this lawfare thing.

[Tim Pool]

I think she should, I, I, I think the story is obviously insane.

[Bradley Devlin]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like I don't believe her for two seconds and I think she should go to prison.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, it sounds like they hooked Up. I, I, maybe Donald Trump. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

It'd be a weird. Why would Trump go into department store when he owns the hotel across the street? I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe just wanted to change a venue. How come out the same windows?

[Tim Pool]

Why was, why was the department store empty?

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe he bought the guy. I know, I'm getting crazy here.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Her story makes. How is she wearing a dress that didn't exist at the time?

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know. Maybe she was like, they were making out and she's like, hey, come on, I've had enough. And you're like, bro.

[Tim Pool]

Ian. What?

[Ian Crossland]

You came here.

[Tim Pool]

How was she wearing clothes, a designer dress that didn't exist at the time?

[Bradley Devlin]

Dude, it's all.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't, I can't.

[Tim Pool]

I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't believe it. I, there's, I see zero evidence. I have no reason to believe it.

[Tim Pool]

Except she said, I was able to sue years ago. How is she able to sue 30 years after it happened?

[Ian Crossland]

Because the courts wanted to get Donald Trump to not be able to run for office. Obviously, they were using her.

[Tim Pool]

You mean the Democrats.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, whoever was in.

[Tim Pool]

But there's a question, there's an actual question. How was she able to sue 30 years later? I don't know.

[Bradley Devlin]

I still don't know.

[Tim Pool]

They passed a law just so she could. It is crazy, dude. This is three years after she made the claim. They created a law in New York just so that she could sue Trump.

[Ian Crossland]

I kind of think fake like Bradley, I think you're right, that this mutually assured destruction thing, like, they're like, look, we cannot let this happen again. If Rando people are going to come out of the woodwork to target a guy running for president with some crap statement that from 30 years ago that you kind of remember. We got to make sure those people don't step up and do that. And this is why. Because you'll get jacked for perjury. I don't know. What was the purger charges?

[Tim Pool]

What did she say?

[Bradley Devlin]

Specifically the perjury charges is that she did not receive funding for her lawsuit when Reid Hoffman, a noted antagonist against Trump, like, very well known Trump antagonist, supported her lawsuit. And so Reid Hoffman, for example, was one of the people who backed the Nikki Haley effort in New Hampshire, saying Democrats should really throw money at trying to prevent Trump the nomination in 2024. So that's what they're trying to get her on here. I also think, like, the way that we move forward with this lawfare stuff is. I think, what Republicans and conservatives learned through the weaponization against Trump and his supporters during the Biden administration is sometimes the process is the punishment. And I'm not saying every one of these indictments is perfect. We just had the indictment with the splc. I know some people have some qualms with the way that the SPLC thing was being carried out. Whatever, man. The point is that if you never make a move against these people, you don't put them back in line. And that's why I support the comey stuff. I support all this stuff. And anyone that we can get to hold them accountable is totally worth it.

[Tim Pool]

A Bergdorf Goodman manager testified the doors automatically lock when closed. It was common practice. They were closed. She explained that it was unusual, but they found a door that was open. Listen, the whole story makes no sense. Again, I'm just looking this up. Critics have pointed out that the Donna Karan dress that she owned did not match the timeline for availability during her accusation.

[Ian Crossland]

That's part of the reason why you don't charge cases 30 years after the fact. Cuz, like, good luck getting an eyewitness to remember anything three weeks later, let alone three 30 years after.

[Tim Pool]

She said the lingerie department was uncharacteristically empty. I'm like, just. And then Trump. And then. And then Trump stumbled out of the room, found a winning lottery ticket, and everyone clapped. Right? It's just ridiculous. Remember that chick who claimed Brett Kavanaugh was lying, that people would. Guys. First of all, there was some guy who made a claim that, like, Brett Kavanaugh raped him on a boat. And that had to like, oops, I lied about it. Why did he just make that up? Then there was that woman that claimed that Brett Kavanaugh and a bunch of guys at frat parties would lock women in rooms, line up outside the door where she was enslaved so they could take turns gang raping her. This is insane. That lady. What's her face. What was her name? Was it Christina Hoff? Shers? No, not her. Not her. Not her. Who was it?

[Brett Dasovic]

Christine Blasey Ford.

[Tim Pool]

Blasey Ford. Oh, not the other one. We like the other Blasey Ford. Yeah, she. She says that she's, like, afraid to fly. And they're like, you're afraid to fly? Do you ever fly? And she goes, I do. And they're like, are you afraid to fly? Yes. But you fly? Yes. Did you ever fly on vacation? Yes. So you're lying. She's like, I had to install the second door on my house because I'm so scared and they're like, you mean the second door that you use to Airbnb the other part of her house? Yes.

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[Tim Pool]

It's all fake and made up.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, I was, I was saying, I said like the average person hears that. Like I was saying you earlier, I don't think the average person knows how dirty politics gets. And I think one of the saddest parts about all of these stories, if you're new to politics or you don't pay attention very closely, just the idea that there are Democrat judges or Republican judges is already like a really depressing thing to come to the realization for. Because you're supposed to think of judges as like arbiters of doling out justice that's uniform to the entirety of the state. Right. Or to the country. So just knowing that you're going to have to deal with activism from the bench in you, aside from all the lawfare from the government, is one of the most depressing parts about that. But when the Christine Blasey Ford stuff was coming out, people were saying like, why would she lie? And you're like, it's a Supreme Court nomination that's going to have drastic. I mean, look at what's happened since then. We've had Roe v. Wade since then. Like there's drastic implications for the country when somebody's put on the bench. So yes, why would they lie? We know.

[Tim Pool]

I feel like this may be the, the apex of what a modern civil war would look like. People are not so it's not so much they're maybe not willing to get ultra violent. I mean, maybe it is possible. But the concern is we're in a psychological battle. The idea is not to control people through force, but to control them through thoughts. And so it's a battle for legitimacy. You know, let's jump to the story if we got this from Reuters. Trump backed candidates landslide in Texas. Give Democrats hope in November. Really, let me put it like this. All of Trump's endorsements have won. Thomas Massie lost, Cornyn lost. These are long standing incumbents. Trump said, nah, I want somebody else. And the people came out and voted for them. I do not see Democrats winning in November. Let me clarify. What I'm saying is the probability lies with the Republicans in the House. They've got like a three or a three or so seat advantage right now. So Democrats have to win more toss ups than Republicans do. In the Senate. Democrats would have to flip one of two potential. They have to flip Texas, which sounds insane, or Alaska, which sounds insane. They have to win every toss up and flip a Republican state. The polls do not show this. So right now the probability seems to be with Republicans. Democrats are broke. They're $3 million in debt with very little cash on hand. Republicans have no debt and $200 million. But Democrats are. They're liberal and lefty activists still funding something, but they're funding extremism, far left violence, riots. I think it is obvious what, where this is going. Let me put it like this. USAID crushed, deep, state crushed, routed, fleeing. They're putting their money into antifa, terrorism, violence, etc. There was that old man who got beaten to death. He had that house, all the Trump signs on it. And you look at this Hassan Piker thing where he's calling out the Singham guy for funding all this far left extremism. Republicans are funding politicians to win. It looks to me like where we are headed. Trump is going after Aegean Carroll, he's going after Comey. They are going to go after these cronies and these shills and these liars and manipulators. They are going to use the weight of institutional power against them and the left and these liberal extremists. Liberal extremists, funny phrase. They are going to fund antifa and violence and you are going to have the US government versus these insurgent factions. That's what it feels like.

[Bradley Devlin]

That's a really interesting thought because if you, if you think about these races, even in California, for example, I know incumbents have a massive advantage but Kylie's trying to. He's moved districts because of the redistricting and he's trying to fend off Democratic pressure by becoming an independent and going soft on a whole bunch of issues which will be an interesting race next week. But Republicans seem to be good on the cash front and Democrat campaigns don't seem to be doing that well on the cash front. And if it turns into Republicans are going to continue having this cash on hand electoral advantage, then yes, you get the Republicans, the Republicans get elected and then you create a crisis in their capacity to govern. A crisis that creates an emergency that when you have the opportunity to retake power, you come down like a ton of bricks and it becomes a one party state. I think that's with your civil war analogy there.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Bradley Devlin]

Like really the contest, the civil war we have right now is who can get to one party control quicker.

[Tim Pool]

I don't see how Democrats can come back from this. They're broke.

[Bradley Devlin]

They are going to spend $100 million on this race at the least. I'm going to spend $100 million on Platner, but. But it's going to be great.

[Tim Pool]

Let's clarify. The dnc, the Democratic establishment is broke, but they're putting money into individual campaigns. This shows that they are decentralized. So the roach has been stepped on and it's splattered now. There's little eggs everywhere. But again, central centralization in a political party is power. It's organization. They're not going to be able to unify with a bunch of random. Look guys, Tellarico's got the charisma of a stink bug. I mean, let's just be real. I don't see the dude winning. It makes no sense. Homeboy has a campaign video from 2022 where he's like, our campaign is vegan because climate change is a problem, we got to cut back on meat in the state that is the largest beef producer in the country. Dude is going to lose all of the lobbying dolls and all the money from one of the biggest industries in the country centered in Texas. You mean to tell me that these ranchers are going to be like, yeah, I'll vote for him? No, they're going to start putting every penny. They, this guy now they put out this picture of him eating a turkey leg to prove he's not vegan. Guys, I don't care. He himself is vegan. He said no meat. Climate change. I hope every Texas rancher hears that.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, plus they're hypocrites anyways. So that's exactly what a politician would do, would be to say one thing and then do another thing. It feels in a lot of ways like they're waiting for something bad to happen. Do you see the videos the other day of Nick Sort that Nick Sorter posted of like ICE allowing their vehicles to be searched by like leftist activists leaving a building? And then the next day, day they were getting. It was like somebody went to the administration is like, you can't let this happen. It makes you look weak.

[Tim Pool]

A leftist activists, they were like letting them.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like that was what Nick Sorter had posted. You might be able to find it. And then the following day, they were not allowing this to happen. Like somebody said, you cannot be seen on camera giving quarter to them in these situations. It just feels like we're waiting for another summer incident to happen that they can campaign on.

[Tim Pool]

Did you guys see the video where the two Mexican guys walk out of the ICE facility and all the activists start screaming and cheering and then it turns out they were employees just going home? No, I will say that one of the ICE employees was like, yo, those guys work here. What? Like, you're so racist.

[Bradley Devlin]

I will say I'm all for this opium, this copium that Democrats are slinging around right now, because as you said, right? They, they. He's not going to win any rancher, any of the big industry dollars in Texas, but Democrats are still going to pour a ton of money into it. I remember in 2020, they spent collectively between Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell, which I'm like the last person in the world to defend either of those two guys. But they spent over $200 million on those campaigns. And you think to yourself, wow, scarcity is real. Resources are finite. It's fantastic that they decided they're going to blow that money on safe Republican races and not in other areas where we can overperform. So I'm all for them thinking that they have a chance in these races. Let's make sure that they think that as long as possible. So they spend as much money as possible going down in defeat.

[Tim Pool]

So the Democrats post this picture of Talarico and my first thought was like, you know, if someone said you could look gay eating a leg of turkey, I'd be like, what do you mean? And then I saw this picture and while they figured it out, who is

[Brett Dasovic]

the one that was making the cheeseburger on the grill? And it was the cheese was already humor.

[Tim Pool]

The cheese was not.

[Brett Dasovic]

Hello there, fellow meat eaters.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, so shout out to Siraj Siraja Hajmi, who, in response to this photo, posted this. When I'm in a gay competition and my Opponent is James Talarico. It's a Squidward. Freaking out. You've lost. This is I real quick though. I like I look these gay right. It looks like, I mean that's fine. I got no beef. You're allowed to be gay. I'm just saying like you know he's gay, right?

[Ian Crossland]

He loves trans children chewing into that meat. I, I think that this is he

[Bradley Devlin]

feasting at the bone.

[Ian Crossland]

He's taking it to the, to the center, dude. There you go. All the way.

[Tim Pool]

There you go. Everybody listen to this.

[Bradley Devlin]

We have I think heard more and more issues of animal welfare. I think not just because it's the right thing to do and the moral thing to do, but also it's as all of you know, necessary to fight climate change. It is now existential that we try to reduce our meat consumption and that we try to respect animals in all aspects of society. And so I, I am proud to say that our campaign has officially become a non meat campaign. So we have, we are, this is, we are only buying vegan products from, from our local vegan businesses. Some of you may know big nonnas, they, they were little known as.

[Tim Pool]

And then this is back in 2022, you know, so a lot of people are like why is he wearing a mask? It's from 2022.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's not.

[Tim Pool]

But, but here's the important point. He's going to change his image now that he's going statewide and he needs to convince everybody. So they're posting cringe like this. Wear a Texas shirt and eat some turkey. I'm assuming that's turkey. Dude, we get it. You eat meat. But you have stated you will not buy animal based products because of climate change. What do you think that means when he gets into office what he is going to do to the cattle ranchers in Texas?

[Ian Crossland]

I think firstly meat's not the problem. They're developing stem cell meat where you can grow it in a laboratory and eat it. Whatever you think about it, who, it's always gross when you haven't done it yet. Don't be a Luddite. Astronauts need space. We're gonna be growing meat in space. It's okay. It's industrial agriculture. It's nasty and it's horrible for the animals. In a lot of sense that's a different conversation and it's tough for a politician to bring up cause it's a huge moneymaker.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Well we gotta pause because ranchers, majority of ranchers are not industrialized agricultural.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. But if you wanna talk about climate change the terror that you're putting animals through. Talk about the industrial agricultural system.

[Tim Pool]

That is. That is. That is just. That is. That is propaganda from leftists.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think so many of you ever smelled a pig. They said they only let things fly over these pig farms because of all the feces and blood.

[Tim Pool]

You've been there. You ever been to one of these places? I have.

[Ian Crossland]

Have you?

[Tim Pool]

I've been to cattle ranches. I've been to dairy farms.

[Ian Crossland]

I've seen dudes smashing piglets on the ground, like, on video.

[Bradley Devlin]

Indeed.

[Tim Pool]

You've seen a lot of propaganda videos of bad people doing bad things. And so I went to cattle ranches and I went to dairy farms to interview people. And what I found was cows walking around doing whatever they want.

[Ian Crossland]

But there's also.

[Tim Pool]

Have you driven around? We got cattle farms.

[Ian Crossland]

I just took a couple pictures of them. My Instagram. Check it out.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. All over where we are, our cattle ranches. What are the cows doing all day?

[Ian Crossland]

Eating around, chilling.

[Tim Pool]

Bro, there's a stream over here. It is the most whimsical magic. Hold on, hold on. I got it. Because you know what I'm talking about, right? When you drive down this road, there is a springtime stream. It only exists in springtime. And you're under these canopies of trees, winding around the bend. And you see, you drive over this little. There's like. It's like the road keeps going, but the water flows underneath. And there are cows and calves gleefully, like, prancing through the stream, drinking fresh spring water.

[Bradley Devlin]

You've returned.

[Tim Pool]

I just saw him on my way over here.

[Bradley Devlin]

You've returned to the stream.

[Tim Pool]

That's not what I'm talking about. But that is nice. No, it's like you're in the forest and there's a springtime stream, and you're driving past it and you just need to stop. And you see, like, a little calf, like, prancing around and, like, splashing in the water. And we're gonna eat them.

[Bradley Devlin]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They are going to be food, but it is not this insane. Like, they're whipping and beating the cow.

[Ian Crossland]

You'll see a crate. Because when people slaughter and they're slaughterers, that's their nature. They get desensitized to what they're doing. They don't think of them as, like, sentient creatures. They just smash until they're dead. Like the little ones.

[Tim Pool]

You're talking about bad guys who did bad things, you know?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that's just when they.

[Tim Pool]

When they. When they kill cows, they have that thing they put on the head and go dump. And it's. It's humane and it's instant.

[Brett Dasovic]

Captive bolt gun.

[Tim Pool]

Is it? What is it called?

[Brett Dasovic]

Captive bolt gun.

[Tim Pool]

What is it?

[Brett Dasovic]

Captive bolt gun.

[Tim Pool]

Captive bolt gun. Like that dude from no country for Old Men I wanted to make. And he puts it real to the guy's head, and he's just, like, looking at it.

[Ian Crossland]

I wanted to talk a little bit about this, like, Democratic Republican thing, because I think that the deep state has switched sides the unit party. So I look at this as kind of like level four, and we're headed towards level five.

[Tim Pool]

What does that mean?

[Bradley Devlin]

What's level four?

[Ian Crossland]

Basically, when Trump got a hold of what I believe is when he got a hold of the Epstein files and he seized power and authority with his administration, everyone that was like, playing the game with USAID is like, all right, we're going with the winner. We don't care who it is. Deep State unifies around Detroit. I don't know yet, but.

[Tim Pool]

So why are they. Why are they still rallying in Virginia and other blue states?

[Ian Crossland]

Because it's not a monolith. There's a lot of people that are

[Tim Pool]

just Politically, you're saying, you're saying that there are prominent elites who basically said, I will do whatever you want.

[Ian Crossland]

It used to be they were with the Bush Jr. Administration. Then when Obama got in, they switched sides to the Democrats. Now they switch sides back to Republicans. I feel like the Republicans are going to take and sweep this next election. I'm concerned about next level when we have to really be concerned about a uni party growing out of this like a technocratic uniparty in 2028, 2032. So, like, save your potions, basically, because the big battle.

[Tim Pool]

Let me pull up real quick. We have from the Hill, Trump, quote, I don't care about the midterms. And it's funny because when you first see this story, a lot of people I know reacted by like, oh, no. Like Trump saying, no, no, no. Trump saying, we won. He's saying, we've won. He says they thought they were going to outweigh me. You know, we'll outweigh them. We got the midterms. I don't care about the midterms. Look what happened last night. That was the prelude to the midterms. He's basically saying when Trump says vote, he wins. And he doesn't see a big difference between the Republican primaries and Republican versus Democrat. And I think there's an interesting point to be made. There's no, there's the DNC as a centralized, organized organism is done, they're broke and donations are going to individual candidates. There is no unified party. There is.

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[Tim Pool]

No party leader. I do not see how a decentralized spattering of random politicians with, with disparate funding can go up against a centralized Republican machine. Trump has got powerful donors, big tech billionaires now on his side. I do not see how when it comes to the grand scheme of things, he ends up losing on this one. Not to mention we do have these, these crazy challenges with the redistricting. But I think, what was it? I think Tennessee has won. I think, what was it? Was it Missouri?

[Bradley Devlin]

South Carolina? Balks.

[Tim Pool]

Missouri's in a federal district court just blocked Alabama defying the Supreme Court precedent, which is insane. They're going to win that one. When you look at the polling data right now, Democrats have a massive uphill battle for the House and the Senate they can win. But when Trump says, I don't care about the midterms, we're going to win, I think people need to consider the lengths Trump is willing to go to. And he mentioned his, his election integrity army. I have to wonder, we saw that story with Ashley St. Clair where she claimed Elon texted her saying, I'm gonna use my space lasers. It's anomaly in the matrix they'll never see coming, or something like this. She's making the argument that Elon was insinuating he's using Starlink to win. I wonder if what Elon, if the story is true, could Elon have just been saying we are tracking polling data in ways they can't understand. We are tracking sentiment. Like the idea being with Starlink, Elon has a really good grasp of public sentiment. They were able to target, with proper campaign ads, more efficient spending. Which is why he was like, this is how we win. Her argument is that he flipped the votes or whatever. My point ultimately is this. These tools that Trump has and the allies that he has have either, let's just call it nefarious means or legitimate and powerful tech means to win elections. I don't see how Democrats can pull a victory off decentralized.

[Bradley Devlin]

I have a question for you on the Elon thing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Bradley Devlin]

And perhaps I have missed something here, but if Elon had that capability, why wouldn't he use it for Massey as a test run? If Massey won that primary, I don't think anyone would have been surprised.

[Ian Crossland]

Why would he?

[Bradley Devlin]

Because he wasn't he supporting Massey's primary effort at the beginning?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Bradley Devlin]

Did they? Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Because I thought that he also. Just because he says he would. Even if he said he supported it, doesn't mean he did.

[Bradley Devlin]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

My point is this. My point is there's two ways. There's a million ways you can view this. If Ashley St. Clair's story is true, honestly, I think what makes the most sense is Elon is. Has an isp, an Internet service provider. He has access to the browsing data of large swaths of the population. They can see how to target these individuals. This means he can simply say Trump. You know, we're seeing a lot of. In the data. We're seeing searches for immigration, economics. You target these keywords, you are going to be reaching people in ways the Democrats won't even understand.

[Ian Crossland]

I just thought, I've been screaming about freeing the software code, free the software code, so you can read the data. You know, you know, if your voting machines are flipping votes because you have access to the code, but maybe they'll build an AI that can just reverse engineer the code. I think they're going to. So good luck with your proprietary attempt. It's all going open.

[Bradley Devlin]

This is really. That's the idea. That he has a massive. A massively valuable political asset is fascinating because I remember, I'm seeing the drawing of him right there. Charlie Kirk. I remember kind of early days, like 2017, 2018. Someone came up to me and he said. And they said, charlie Kirk is the most valuable asset in the conservative movement. I was like, turning Point usa. Like, I love Turning Point usa. But the most Valuable asset in the conservative movement. Really? Yeah. It's not the organization. It's the fact that he has lists upon lists upon lists of young, dedicated conservative activists. And we saw that, as Susie Weil said, we won in 2024 because of the work Charlie did. We saw that come to fruition in 2024 with the. With the turnout machine he built there. And so the idea that this is a hidden asset that Elon has is really interesting because if it's used for good, great. I like when the good guys win. But that type of stuff can be

[Tim Pool]

used for the question, does he have satellites that can flip votes, or does he just have access to data that these insights.

[Bradley Devlin]

Even the data is super powerful.

[Tim Pool]

Even that is super.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, are we supposed to believe that the smartest man in the world is going to, like, Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like Elon Musk? If Elon Musk is.

[Tim Pool]

You're saying he's the smartest man in the world?

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm saying if he's one of the.

[Ian Crossland]

You're talking about me? You're talking about me?

[Tim Pool]

Well, people.

[Brett Dasovic]

People say that Elon Musk is one of the smartest men in the world.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Ian Crossland]

One of you.

[Tim Pool]

I've not heard that.

[Brett Dasovic]

He is considered very, very smart. Considering the size of the businesses that he's built in, the stature that he has is going to put into text, which can be tracked. Some type of. Some type of admission of guilt.

[Ian Crossland]

Exactly what I thought he was messing with Ashley or she's lying.

[Brett Dasovic]

A lying liar who lies. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Text. I mean, no, I imagine he said that, but, like, what does that even mean? I'm going to deploy my space lasers, my anomaly in the matrix.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, wouldn't a smart person try to avoid any level of.

[Tim Pool]

He could be talking smack. Remember when James o' Keefe stung that New York Times guy who was like, bragging about having access to, like, I can't remember what the story was, but he was talking big game. And then he was like, we saw this social media reporter for the New York Times admitting this. And I was like, yeah, I know that guy. I think he's just trying to get laid, dude. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

If I was like, I'm going to channel the will of God to make sure we win, you would know that. I was like, not. I don't actually have access to the will of God. Not literally, anyway. Not that I know of. I mean, I do, but, you know, historically, how did.

[Brett Dasovic]

They didn't do so well in Trump's first term at the Midterms, right?

[Bradley Devlin]

They, yeah, but the map. So this is, I think Tim's getting at something important here too with the redistricting stuff. The map is fundamentally different now.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let me just say something about 2018. The midterms, the polling data all suggested that a high probability Republicans would actually hold. And then somehow, slowly, weeks after the midterms, Democrats started winning.

[Bradley Devlin]

Night of it looked like there was no blue wave. It was a facade.

[Tim Pool]

And I actually have several videos where they're like, blue wave fizzles, doesn't happen. But then over the next couple of weeks, Democrats started finding votes.

[Bradley Devlin]

It was indeed. I remember doing interviews that night and just going on, yeah, blue wave not materializing. You know, we over perform again with Trump on the ballot, yada yada, and then all of a sudden, drip, drip, drip. But the point is there's not that many gettable seats anymore because of all the redistricting which, which is not something that we caused by deciding we wanted to redistricting Texas. As conservatives, no, this is a complete and total farce. They've been doing this for generations. And finally conservatives Republicans decided to start playing that game. And now the number of seats up for grabs realistically is like 20 tops. So the biggest majority they're gonna get is like 10 if they assuming they sweep everything. And we know given what we're seeing in these Senate primaries, that a lot of their candidates have major, major, major liabilities. In California, for example, there's a 10 term Democratic Congressman that's getting challenged by a member of this Sacramento city council, my Fong, and she's just going viral, viral this week over every single city hall meeting, she decides to stand and face away from the flag as they do the Pledge of Allegiance and not say the pledge of Allegiance. So if that's the team that they're rolling with, if she wins her primary in California next Tuesday, if that's the team that they're rolling with, I think Republicans and conservatives have every reason to be very confident going into a midterm where the fundamentals might not be great, but there's not that much up for grabs.

[Tim Pool]

Thomas Massie has filed to run again in 2028. But did he say something like he was not sure like what he was going to run for just yet? He did. What did he say?

[Ian Crossland]

He said, he said he didn't know what he was going to run for. Could be president.

[Tim Pool]

My conspiracy theory again, I've talked about it quite a bit, but it was what, like a few months ago? How long ago was it? When Joe Kent resigned, it's a couple months, right. It was March when that happened. Again, I know most of you guys heard me talk about it, but just for the conversation, for the context, I heard some beltway rumors that Tulsi was going to resign, that Joe Kent still friends with Trump. This is actually part of the plan. Tucker is still friends with Trump. It's part of the plan. And the game is they are going to try and take control of what the left is. They are creating the new opposition to Trump.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, awesome.

[Tim Pool]

So they want to create. They want politics to be like 2012, Obama, Romney, where it's like kind of vanilla pudding, but based around maga. So you take the left flank of maga, Tulsi Gabbard, and she either runs as an independent spoiler, or over the course of the next couple of years, actually realigns the Democratic Party. If they lose the midterms, she will be poised to say the Democrats need a wake up call. And a lot of like, right now the polls show the party is split 50, 50 between going further left or saying more moderate and moving slightly more to the center. I don't know if she'll go as Democrat or Tucker or anything like that. But the theory is that MAGA is splitting in a certain way so that Democrats become this like decayed appendage. MAGA breaks into two factions and then left and right both lead to the same road. Maga.

[Bradley Devlin]

So this is a repeat of the Jacksonian era of US Politics.

[Ian Crossland]

How so?

[Bradley Devlin]

Perhaps the Jacksonians, basically, after the death of the Whig Party, they all kind of rally around Jackson and they kind of split into two different Jacksonian factions. And then of course, the errors of the Jacksonian system lead to the rise of the Republicans later on. But this is.

[Tim Pool]

Here you go. Like the Democratic Republican Party going back to 1792. I always found that was really funny that it was called the Democratic Republican Party. Now we have the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

[Bradley Devlin]

Yeah, so. So when we talk about, you know, creating this new, this new lane here, do you believe that the Tulsi. The reason for Tulsi's resignation is more about foreign policy and less about her husband?

[Tim Pool]

Well, let me just play like this. I don't know. But I will say when I said that the rumor we're hearing is she's going to resign and it's for political reasons, we. My first reaction was to reach out to. So we're hearing these rumors. So I reach out directly to people in that sphere. I don't wanna say exactly Who, People's privacy and whatever. And I was told unequivocally, no, it's not happening. And a lot of people also told me, even on this show, like, she's not gonna resign. It's not happening. She resigned. Now, of course, the reason is the abrupt health issue of her husband. But I say, yeah, maybe, but there

[Bradley Devlin]

is, I will say there is a lane. Now, the Ted Cruz lane was the one that, you know, because Ted Cruz has decided he wants to run for president. And the lane was going to be, I'm MAGA without the tariffs, right? You can remember after Liberation Day, he was doing, he was doing a bunch of the, there was Axios pieces saying, you know, he's talking about this with fundraising people at the Capitol Grill and all this nonsense. Then the Iran war started and Ted Cruz didn't have a lane anymore. But there is a lane to the non interventionist right of Trump in the wake of this. And that lane could be theoretically filled by a Thomas Massie character or a Tulsi Gabbard character.

[Tim Pool]

Gabbard Massie, 2028.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, Betterman 2028. Let's go.

[Tim Pool]

I think Gabbard Massey, 2028.

[Bradley Devlin]

And that in a Republican primary, Trump's gonna play kingmaker. But you can make yourself so, so much of a nuisance, just like, just like RFK Jr. Did in 2024, where he really fought that battle and he got brought into the movement again. I think that could be in the cards for a movement like that. It would be pretty darn popular.

[Tim Pool]

I just have to wonder, you know, I have to wonder about all this, right? The moves Massie has made have been endearing to moderates and libertarians. He's always kind of been, well, he's always been a big favorite for the Libertarians, but recently going hard with the Epstein stuff and teaming up with Ro Khanna has attracted the attention of default libs. There are a lot of people, you can see who I tweeted sometimes I won't, I won't call them out right now. They are liberal only and that they hate Donald Trump. They love Thomas Massie. If Massie ran as an independent or I don't see how, but as a Democrat, if the Democratic Party realigned or something, I don't see, I don't see that being feasible. He would get a lot of default libs. So I think there's a strong probability of a spoiler third party run from Gabbard Massie Kent or otherwise that polls default libs and. And then it goes 30 30, you know, 40.

[Bradley Devlin]

I'm wondering.

[Tim Pool]

30 Democrat, 30 independent. 40. Trump. Trump wins.

[Ian Crossland]

About J.D. vance, because.

[Tim Pool]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, to clarify the successor to Trump. Yeah, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Which sounds like it's going to be Rubio if the rumors are true.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think so.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, J.D. vance apparently has been. I don't know if this is true. This is what I read, that he's been iced out, that he's being iced out because he was anti war. He didn't want. He thinks the Iran thing was a bad idea. Tulsi was his biggest ally in the admin. Now she's leaving. So he's like considering not running for president, which is crazy because he's the front runner, which would mean it's got to be Rubio.

[Bradley Devlin]

No, I think this, I think this is total, utter baloney. The idea that the sitting Vice President, who has been on record or on background from day one as not supporting this war. Well, now on background reporting from the New York Times and others have suggested that Radcliffe, that Rubio, that all these other members of the administration also expressed their skepticism over the war after Netanyahu came and met with Trump prior to the launch of the campaign. And so while they have not all been consistent the entire time, the only person the admin who has been consistent has been the Vice President on this. They have changed their tune and said, actually behind closed doors, I was against this war with Iran. You don't give the vice president the number one thing going for your domestic agenda right now in a electorate that is starved for domestic policy wins. If you don't think that he is the heir apparent, let's remember he was chosen the day, two days after President Trump was nearly killed in Butler, Pennsylvania. You're thinking about your legacy, you're thinking about your heir, and he chose J.D. vance. And now J.D. vance is leading the anti fraud task force. Would you say, like, oh, another commission, another fraud task? No, it's a real thing. It is doing the Doge work, plus so much more. And that was a major focal point of today's Cabinet meeting, because this is the number one thing that the Trump administration has going for right now. On the domestic front, yes, the deportations are happening. Yes, the Trump economy, once undone from the shackles of this war, will perform very well. But people want accountability and they want to know where their tax dollars are going. They want transparency. And the Vice President is leading that effort right now. And so I think he's still the

[Tim Pool]

air based on the way things are right now and it's an eternity to 2028. Rubio does seem to make the most sense. People are burned out on culture war politics. I do feel like while WOKE still exists right when you, when you, when you win a war, the ideology exists, it's just suppressed.

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[Tim Pool]

WOKE is mostly dead. I mean, these studios, the movie studios, TV shows, they've burned so much money, they've kind of backed off. I've had some conversation with some industry guys who are saying that like behind the scenes, they know they'll never get away with this stuff. It's just not going to happen. And so when you think about that, J.D. vance is a culture warrior. I kind of feel like people are just, their brains are just shocked to the point of numbness as it pertains to culture war issues. Rubio is so vanilla, so bland and boring. It's kind of the guy you want to hire. I feel like if it was right now, a lot of people, I think the prediction market show this too. People would be like, just give me the boring suit wearing guy who's just very droll.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know, that's how I felt about, like the, like my conspiracy theory is that the conspiracies have been pushed out of control so that people will just start accepting whatever the dude in the suit on the TV tells them because they're sick of having to worry about all of it because there's so much of it being thrown everywhere.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, look. So, so it's not, it's not exactly. Right now, Rubio and Vance are neck and neck. It's a, it's a statistical tie with Vance at 32 to Rubio's 30 in the call sheet prediction market. So Rubio skyrocketing.

[Bradley Devlin]

So look at Rubio skyrocketed win. Look at Tucker Carlson Venezuela operation. That is also hilarious. Like, Tucker is third in this.

[Ian Crossland]

That's great.

[Tim Pool]

Well, because he made that. He like jokingly referenced the Russell.

[Bradley Devlin]

The Ted Cruz thing was, that was funny. Which Ted Cruz, when he was like, he was like, I would love to debate Ted Cruz. Again, in fact, I would run for president just.

[Ian Crossland]

I feel like Mark Ruby, fluent Spanish speaker, could unify the Western Hemisphere.

[Tim Pool]

The guy.

[Ian Crossland]

The guy talk about bringing South America under the influence. Not that they already weren't already under the influence of the United States, but generally. And I like JD Vance better from a distance. I don't know either of them yet. I'd like to talk to both of them.

[Tim Pool]

I think people are just tired of

[Bradley Devlin]

being like, we need to elect the Spanish speaker because we need to make sure that we shore up the Western Hemisphere. I'm all with you on the geopolitical stuff. This is our own backyard. We need to protect it. But the idea that people are just. They want a domestic policy president. That's what they want. They want the issues at home to be free, fixed. And you said that JD Was a culture warrior. This is more surprising to me because my take on JD Is that he is. He has leaned in at certain points to the culture war stuff, but at the end of the day, he's always been really focused on reshoring, manufacturing, all of that type of development.

[Tim Pool]

All that's true, but look at his. Look at his ex, where he posts, like, you know, insults and like, he's a culture warrior.

[Bradley Devlin]

Good point.

[Tim Pool]

I want to be. I'm going to. Can I be as offensive and conspiratorial as possible?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, actually.

[Tim Pool]

And, you know, one of the challenges with being friends with so many people in politics is that, let me put it like this, there's a handful of people you guys know I'm not friends with that I'll say really horrifying things about, like, I'll insult. You know what I mean? It's like. It's like, oh, that guy clearly doesn't like the person. But Thomas Massey is a good dude. I consider him a friend of the show and with. And. And I've been a big fan of Tulsi for a long time. So I will start by saying to insinuate Tulsi didn't actually resign over the health of her husband. I can understand why that may come off as disrespectful to Tulsi, who has always been very nice to us, though she's never been on the show, anything like that. Massey's been on the show several times, and he's a friend. He's a friend of ours. That being said, I have to bring this up because this is a relevant point in the timeline, though I'm not trying to claim this to be true or anything, so let me just be Very delicate. There are a lot of conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's death. Obviously, he was killed by somebody. I believe that the most likely scenario is it was not a lone shooter. There is social media evidence that there were people with foreknowledge who were tweeting and posting on TikTok that something was going to happen to Charlie Kirk. That was investigated. It seems like there was also a story about a bunch of vehicles in front of his. In front of his house. If we ask the question, who benefits? I would make the argument that the uniparty machine, the establishment, stood to gain the most by removing Charlie Kirk from the chessboard because he was getting young people to vote Republican. Now that he's gone, who's actually worse off? Well, it's the Republican Party, his wife, and Israel, as much as people want to claim with this ridiculous story that Israel did it. Now, that being said, we will move to a next portion of this story, which I say this just because it existed in the Zeitgeist. Thomas Massie's wife died. And do you guys remember the narrative that had emerged around this after she passed, which has not come up for some reason. The insinuation was that they killed Massie's wife because he was pursuing things like Epstein or that he was defying the established order. A lot of people made this claim. They were like, his wife abruptly died without warning. And then people made this claim that all of a sudden, he found himself at odds with Donald Trump again. I understand that's a sore spot. There's a lot of people I know, mutual friends, and I'm not trying to be a dick, but I would be remiss if, because of my personal connections, I didn't bring up that again. After his wife died, there was a conspiracy theory circulating that it was a threat to Massie, that they'll come after his family unless he does what they tell him to do. And while Massie was always kind of at odds with Trump, Trump did endorse him. Now Trump is fighting against him. So I just. I wonder why that conspiracy theory hasn't reemerged the likes of Candace Owens.

[Bradley Devlin]

The one thing I will point out where that is the strongest counter argument that I can think of is Trump called Massie after the death of his wife, and they had what seems to be an extended conversation where Massey tells the story where he's, like, on his bed in a hotel room and the president calls him. And he picks up, it's like, hello. And then all of a sudden, he's like, thinking that he's going to get a secretary, hey, I'm going to patch you through. And he's talking to Donald Trump right then and there about it. And Trump seemed very apologetic about the whole thing.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not saying Trump did anything. No, the conspiracy theory is that anti Trump elements went to Massie and they were like, you will do as you are told, and went after his family. And now actually, I think what you're saying actually lends itself to the conspiracy. Trump, who called Massie saying, I'm so sorry for what happened to you, now they hate each other.

[Bradley Devlin]

So you're saying that the conspiracy was deep state elements, not attached in whatsoever way to the political apparatus, did this?

[Tim Pool]

No, the uniparty establishment, the conspiracy there at the time was that Massie's wife was assassinated as a threat to Massie to force him to fall in line with the uniparty machine. And now he has become a major thorn in Trump's side. Going, Trump, listen, you're right, cuz Trump

[Bradley Devlin]

wasn't in office yet. He was running. Yeah, he was running when he.

[Tim Pool]

And what ends up happening is when Trump gets in. Massie opposes a lot of the key bills that Trump wanted, citing things like the deficit, too much spending. But these were like, you know, the funding of ICE, the DHS stuff. Massie voted with Republicans 90% of the time on core Republican issues. But on the major things Trump's want, Trump wanted, Massey opposed him. So again, I try to say this the most utmost respect because there's a personal element here, but I would be remiss if I ignored a component of the story because of a personal element. When Massie's wife died, there was a conspiracy theory that she was killed to force Massie to fall in line. That he was. He was adamant, he was resistant, he was a defiant politician. His wife dies, next thing you know, he and Trump are enemies.

[Ian Crossland]

That was one of the first things that crossed my mind when she passed away was, did someone do this to her? But then later I learned that she had been ill for a long time. So I've heard she was ill for a long time with cancer.

[Tim Pool]

I think my understanding was it was abrupt. It seemed abrupt.

[Ian Crossland]

I'd never heard anything about her being ill.

[Carter Banks]

I heard both of those things. I heard, like they said, it was abrupt, but I also heard that she had cancer or something like that, but I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

And I heard that as recent as last week from someone that was claiming it. It's tough to tell. I mean, you were talking about how like Politics is dirty. We're in a liberal democratic republic. And it's like character assassination. But like you go to an empire,

[Tim Pool]

it's like she did not have cancer.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay. Does it say what, how long she was ill or any of that? And the stress of him being away was probably like just that lifestyle.

[Tim Pool]

You know, she had an auto, she had autoimmune myopathy, an unknown type, causing respiratory complications.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, geez. Sounds like Covid related.

[Brett Dasovic]

And there was a ton of character assassination against him afterwards because of him getting remarried. And there was a lot of people having discussions about that.

[Tim Pool]

Like, I, I actually think it's really interesting that, you know, Trump calls him and they're, you know, very amicable. What was it? Trump endorsed Massey, Massey endorsed Trump. Then once Trump gets in. All of the major moves Trump wanted to make, mass. It was on the other side of

[Brett Dasovic]

like, I mean it was mostly like the, like what omnibus bills and stuff like that. It was all spending related, right?

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. All, all of the like, like granular Republican bills. Massey was on board with like 90 plus percent. But it was the major moves Trump wanted to make where Massey was on the other side of it. And, and a lot of people argue that this is like the key funding for DHS and the like. A lot of the struck a lot of the power that was used by a lot of what empowered Trump to say, go after USAID and things like this. So I'm not a conspiratorial guy, but I suppose the, there's no, there's no way to be anything other than this, especially right now. Like, I was having a conversation with my wife about the Stanford study that was released in 2025 of December that found men aged 30 and under had a myocarditis incident rate of 1 in 16,750 from the COVID vaccine. 1 in 16,750 is not a rare side effect. That is a common side effect. And that is insane because myocarditis has something like, like, it's like a double digit 5 year mortality rate when, when you get myocarditis and pancreatitis as, as a young person, you are shortening your lifespan dramatically. And they lied to us and claimed it wasn't happening. Now Stanford published this study at the end of April. Nature.com published a study that said if the MRNA lipid nanoparticles got into your liver, it suppressed your immunity against Covid. That is published in nature.com, nature magazine. So when I see all this stuff, I'm like, all you can be these days is a conspiracy theorist. That's it. I can't tell you how pissed I am about these, these studies that have come out from Stanford and published by nature.com because, you know, just, we're kind of getting up to a tangent on this one. But I got to bring this up. During COVID there were, there were a handful of big conspiracy theories. You get banned for it. The CEO YouTube would juice or whatever her name was. Gleefully she gloated how she banned people. There were, there were, there were a couple theories. One, myocarditis was being caused by the vaccine, which they denied. Now we know is true. And Stanford published an incident rate again, 1 in 16,750. That is horrifying. That is horrifying. That means with 13 billion doses, 500,000 young men got myocarditis and pericarditis. Now with this nature study showing they intended for the COVID vaccine to go into your arm and affect your muscle cells. And if it did, this study found it boosted your immunity to Covid. But if the lipid nanoparticles got into your liver, it would tell your body to allow Covid to stay. It would cause tolerance towards it.

[Ian Crossland]

That was the erroring of the. According to Brett Weinstein, who was on the show, the biologists saying that there was an addressing problem with the COVID vaccine. It's supposed to stay local. They thought it would stay local to where they injected it, but it would transfer around and it was supposed to attach, ideally to the right thing, but it would attach to anything. And when it would attach to heart muscle, then your heart muscle produces a spike protein. Your body thinks it's a villain and it kills off the heart muscle. And that's what these people have been saying.

[Tim Pool]

So this is. Let me pull this. Actually, let me pull up the Stanford, Stanford Medicine study. Let's, let's just launch it. I know, I totally just segued.

[Ian Crossland]

I have to do this liver class.

[Tim Pool]

Take a look at this. From Stanford Medicine. Stanford Medicine study shows why MRNA COVID 19 vaccine can cause myocarditis. And they say COVID 19. And less frequently, the MRNA based COVID 19 vaccine. Okay, let's, let's just scroll down. Vaccine associated myocarditis occurs in about 1 in every 140,000 vaccines after a first dose and rises to 1 in 32,000 after a second dose. For reasons that aren't clear, incidence peaks among male Vaccinees age 13 or below. I'm sorry, age 30 or below at 1 in 16,750 vaccines. Vaccinees. I like that word, vaccine.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe it's because they have the best circulatory system, so it moves around the fastest. That's my guess. I'm not sure.

[Tim Pool]

They say Wu noted if the inflammation is severe, the resulting heart injury can be quite debilitating, leading to hospitalizations, ICU admissions for critically ill patients, and deaths, albeit rarely. But Covid is worse. Covid is worse. That's fine. That's fine. Tell me that. But you lied. They lied. They banned people. And now 2025 in December. This is five months ago. They published this one in 16,000 young men 30 and under. Then we've got this one. This is a bit harder to parse through because it's very esoteric. MRNA vaccine immunity is enhanced by hepatocyte detargeting and not dependent on dendritic cell expression. To simplify this nature.com article, they said in the study they intentionally had MRNA lipid nanoparticles target three different types of cells. Muscle, white blood cells, and liver cells. They found that with muscle cell targeting, immunity improved with. With the immune system targeting, I think it was a wash. With liver cell targeting, you became more likely to get Covid. It reduced your immunity. So we had these conspiracy theories at the time that you get banned. For one, the vaccine was causing myocarditis. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Turns out Stanford said it did at 1 in 16,000. That's. That's not a. That's not. That's not a rare side effect. One in 300,000 is what we talk about. 16,000 is horrifying. It's half a million, based on the doses they gave out of young men. Now with this study, you have a second conspiracy theory that people who got the COVID shot, many of them were getting Covid more often for some reason. Well, once again, this study found that if the MRNA vaccine traveled from the injection site into your liver, it would reduce your immunity to Covid. Holy. It's there right now. Nature.com mainstream peer reviewed publication. Maybe they're wrong. They're lying. Hey, you know what? YouTube, Stanford and nature.com are conspiracy theorists now. You can't ban me.

[Ian Crossland]

I just got a. I'm not a doctor. But if your immunity was reduced, wouldn't that mean that you were more infectious and actually transmitted? It means likely transmit it more.

[Tim Pool]

It means that when you. When you get. When I was diagnosed, all I wanted

[Bradley Devlin]

to do was get back to work. I wanted to get back to that trajectory that I was on prior to the cancer.

[Tim Pool]

I always felt Like I had value, I had a place on the team.

[Bradley Devlin]

To just be treated with dignity.

[Tim Pool]

It means everything.

[Ian Crossland]

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[Ian Crossland]

I'm not sure. I'm just asking.

[Tim Pool]

Potentially what it means is if you got Covid, your immune system would not fight against would says in the study, when the. When the vaccine got into the liver, it increased the body's tolerance for Covid, meaning the. The immune system would not go after had the inverse effect. So initially they were telling everybody, oh, it's a funny. They lie about everything. At first they said if the virus. What did Rachel Madison say? The virus stops with you. If you get this. Then they said it's 90% effective. Whatever that meant. They claimed very early on the vaccine would stay in the injection site. Then with myocarditis, and now with this. This one doesn't definitively prove that the vaccine was causing some people to get Covid more. It just proves that in the event it did go to the liver, it would increase your susceptibility to. It stands to reason. What Brett Weinstein was saying is they have a targeting issue addressing issue. Meaning they thought, they said maybe. They thought maybe they were lying. They inject you with the mRNA, it stays in your arm, it stays in your muscle. As it turns out, it is now believed to freely move about the body. Now again, real quick, it is confirmed again through these journals and that's why they did the study. The MRNA vaccine did not stay in the arm of every single person. Hence that's how you get myocarditis. I wanna stress this. Stanford outright says the vaccine, vaccine associated myocarditis exists. That means when you got injected in the arm, the vaccine traveled from your arm to your heart.

[Bradley Devlin]

Yeah. Can I add one more thing on this? Scroll down to where he says Covid is worse. Okay, here's the problem that I have with this. If we're talking about the human cost

[Tim Pool]

here,

[Bradley Devlin]

nobody in that age demographic was really getting Covid.

[Carter Banks]

Exactly.

[Bradley Devlin]

So the raw human cost of the vaccine with this age demographic that is particularly affected by this for some reason is way worse. And this is. This goes to your point about the only option is to be a conspiracy theorist, right? Even when they're telling you the truth six years after the fact, that it's still couched in baloney lies. But Covid is worse. Okay, why is it worse? Well, because we saw that the rate was higher with COVID You just generate myocarditis. Then why you didn't force everybody to just get Covid. You forced them to get the COVID vaccine. And so when we're talking about the

[Tim Pool]

raw human and locked them in their houses where we know that sunlight and sunlight to get vitamin D was a great way to boost your immunity. They put people indoors where the virus lingers and would spread, whereas outdoors it disappears. Mask.

[Ian Crossland]

I wonder how much Covid got breathed out into the mask and then breathed back in. How many Covid molecules are.

[Tim Pool]

And they talked about how viral load led back. Back then they were saying the viral load increases the severity of the illness. So maybe when they say wear two masks, you are keeping the viral load in your breathing.

[Brett Dasovic]

Also the human, the ways in which humans overreacted the general concept. You don't even have to be conspiracy theorists, just the rational idea. It's like, look, this is new. I'm gonna wait. I. I don't feel safe, you know, taking an injection like this without knowing more about what's going on. All the other vaccines that were on the vaccine schedule with everyone to talk about, about how they over prescribe vaccines now, it's like have decades of testing. This does not. For the sake of my family, I'm not going to do that. And then you made people choose between their jobs and their livelihoods and you locked them in the house. They put boards over the basketball hoops so you couldn't even go outside and get any exercise when you're doing it. That'.

[Kiana]

Just.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, I just suggested. What I just suggested isn't a conspiracy theorist. It's just a concerned parent being like, look, I don't know about this, I want to hold off. And then you were gaslit by thousands upon thousands of people in one of the biggest psyops run online. Not even necessarily intentionally, but by thousands of people who for the sake of wanting to seem morally superior, told you you needed to do this for the good of other people. Ignoring the fact that you have to put yourself and your family first and that's your decision. That's not a conspiracy theorist.

[Bradley Devlin]

Well, and what drives me crazy here too, is that the establishment and even some people on the quote unquote conservative. Right? You know, these people are considered conservative for some reason. They keep saying that. It's just. Well, it's all grievance politics. And this conspiratorial thinking is a consequence of online radicalization. No, what draws people to the Type of conspiratorial thinking that we're talking about, not with this specific instance, but just generally all these different conspiracies that we talk about, it's because nobody in a position of authority in our government has been honest with us for decades. And so the first step to fixing any of this problem, if you think that conspiratorial thinking is a problem, the first step is to push for accountability and transparency at every turn. But they don't for some reason. And why is that? Well, it's because they're actually just invested in keeping the, the power structure currently as it is, because they're in the establishment. They benefit from the way that things are. They don't want challenges to authority and they also, some of them might be well meaning and they just think, oh well actually if we, if we are fully and completely honest, if we really just go through all the demons and excise them, then you're going to see a cratering of institutional trust. No, I think a lot of people at this point would say the only way to recover trust in our institutions and to get out of this conspiratorial thinking or whatever is a level set. All right, Ground. We need to get back to ground zero. And you know what? Maybe that requires some amnesty for people. I don't know. I don't know exactly what it looks like, but anything but at this point, we just need the truth.

[Ian Crossland]

You're talking about what the Greeks called the apocalypse. It means the removing of the veil, total transparency, revelation. All email is released. A revelation, so to speak. But at some levels of government, you need to lie to people to protect them. You need to protect your military programs, your.

[Bradley Devlin]

You need secrecy.

[Tim Pool]

Not necessarily.

[Ian Crossland]

And if someone asks if you're doing something, you tell them no. Even if you are, you blatantly lie to save their lives. You have to sometimes. So you have to expect that you will be lied to by your government. But at some point, some things like you don't need to lie about, I think they got to figure out like when, because some of this stuff is overboard.

[Bradley Devlin]

I didn't get radicalized by X, I got radicalized by you.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, there's also people. There was a sentiment when we had a more, more of a monoculture and there was more actual coalescing around the idea of American patriotism. You could believe maybe in the idea that the American government would lie to you for your own good because you had a general level of trust in what the government was doing. Patriot act, everything. Beyond that, nobody really has that level of trust with the government anymore. And that was also signal boosted by the mainstream media apparatus, which was basically, what, four stations, maybe a couple of cable stations. Ted Turner just died recently. Rest in peace. And that that structure is gone now. And it's devolved into a lot of conspiratorial thinking that I don't agree with. But what I think in a lot of ways is that is making people who have realized that they don't have the bandwidth day in and day out to go to work, take care of their family, and investigate whether the government is being honest with them. And I think a lot of people are looking to tune back out. And they're like, look, I didn't believe. It was like, I used to believe in everything, then I didn't. Nothing has really changed all that much. And I don't know where to go. I don't have anybody guiding me through this. And they're just looking for somebody to shepherd them forward.

[Tim Pool]

You know, just real quick, I was radicalized the other day. Just completely radicalized. We need a brutal dictator to come in with an iron fist and just smash things with a hammer. Oh, do it. And I'll tell you what radicalized me. It was that picture of Charlie Kirk as that baseball guy.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, I saw that. What was that all about?

[Tim Pool]

So we are living in Elsa Gate, 10.0, whatever you want to call it. We are living in an algorithmic retardation manipulation through our culture. Our brains have turned to jello. And unless someone comes in and shatters the veil, breaking through the noise, we are doomed to be a bunch of zombie retards bashing our faces on the table. I'm going to stress this again. What's happening on social media with TikTok and Instagram. It's frying the brains. It already fried the brain of Gen Alpha. Their brain is cooked. If. I don't even know if it matters at this point, because millennials are the. Are the. Are the last. Like, we had one foot in, one foot, foot out on. On social media. Gen Z grew up with social media. Gen Alpha grew up in Elsa Gate. You know what Elsa Gate is?

[Bradley Devlin]

No.

[Tim Pool]

It's when the algorithm was promoting videos of people dressed like Elsa, Spider man and the Joker running around. A slapstick comedy. It devolved into Peppa Pig eating feces out of toilets and things like that.

[Bradley Devlin]

This was the algorithm running itself.

[Tim Pool]

So what happened is. There you go. Sorry about that.

[Brett Dasovic]

Thank goodness. It was a glass water bottle.

[Tim Pool]

What happened?

[Bradley Devlin]

Pool water.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it didn't shatter. What happened was that the algorithm would autoplay for babies. Parents would put a tablet in front of their baby and press play. The YouTube algorithm would just pick whatever got the most clicks. So people in India would make videos that were just attacking babies through the algorithm. Spider Man, Elsa and Joker did the best in the algorithm. And then aside from that, it started to turn into feces. Drinking urine just. They were like thumbnails of Peppa Pig and like a female pig and he's peeing in her mouth. Things like that. Yep. And it was all over YouTube. Kids and YouTube for a long time. They banned those things, but now we are still in it. And the other day, I'm going to pull it up again for people who are not familiar with the context. I'm going to pull it up again so y' all can see. The first thing I will tell you is that I see all the time. There are these ads that pop up. It'll be a viral video of a random thing, body camera footage, black people fighting at a kfc. I'm like, not even joking. Literally, it's a lot of these viral videos. And then at the bottom is a picture of Charlie Kirk throwing a hat. Just there, just Charlie Kirk throwing hat. And I'm like, I'm sitting be like, why is Charlie Kirk just superimposed over this weird viral clip algorithm? And then I got radicalized. I saw this and I just. That's it. So I saw this and I said, it's time for someone to come in with an iron fist and just take over by force. And I'm only half joking because this is. This is culture these days. Guys, I understand we had problems with controlled media back in the day. We had big networks, but at least there was still a struggle between those who controlled these systems. And the media tried to be middle of the road because there were few channels. Now that we have an infinite number of channels all attacking the algorithm, you get this, you get whatever that stupid baseball bet, sports gambling character is with Charlie Kirk's face superimposed on it. And there are kids on Instagram and TikTok seeing this every day, turning in. They're being turned into retards. Their brains have the capacity for great knowledge, but they're being programmed by this stuff. We need to put an end to it. We need to shut this stuff down.

[Ian Crossland]

Sort of like fishing. Before, it'd be like, abc, NBC, cbs, they were all fishing. And then they'd be like, hey, look, all the fish we caught. And we're all like, blah, blah, blah. And then now it's everybody. All these people are fishing, and some people are fishing with poison. They're poisoning the water to kill the fish. But they don't realize they can't eat the fish if they poison their minds.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Ian Crossland]

You just gotta. You gotta be resilient towards it and not allow yourself to get poisoned by it.

[Brett Dasovic]

Also, virality in the. In the space, in the Internet now isn't even the same thing that it was five to 10 years ago. We've been covering a lot of stuff on our channel about stealth marketing and these companies that spend tons of money on basically hiring clippers to go and flood the Zone. Put, you know, somebody like Clavicular who is basically a product of marketing through KIK as a way of putting infinite numbers of clips on social media to make them look more relevant than they are are because they're paying these clippers, like, what, a dollar for every thousand views that they get. And you're basically trying to create viral moments because the desire for virality is now outweighing how many actual honest viral clips are coming from social media. So everything is fake. Nothing is really in any way real online. And there was also talk from this guy. He was doing it. He runs this company that doesn't. He says Eric Adams. I think his Eric Adams, like, political adviser denies this, but said it was a good idea. But basically this guy says, like, they came to him and said, we want you to basically flood the Zone with insults, like videos insulting Mamdani. And the guy's like, we were going to do it, but then, like, a guy didn't get back to me. The guy didn't have a problem with doing it. He wasn't ideologically opposed to it. He was saying that. He's like, we would have done it, but we just never were able to come to a deal. Politicians are doing this now, too. And you're manufacturing a way to boost the. You know, whether it's positive stuff about you or more commonly, negative things about somebody you don't like, you have to use people to create virality because it's not happening organically. Nothing's real.

[Bradley Devlin]

So I'm wondering what you guys think about this. But Gen Alpha cooked. I think we all agree on that. Is it bubbling up the chain to older generations? Because. Can you do me a favor, Tim?

[Tim Pool]

Can.

[Bradley Devlin]

Can you pull up my Twitter account? I want to. I want to show you guys this.

[Tim Pool]

This.

[Bradley Devlin]

The. The Richard Nixon foundation just did something incredible. First off, they're making all these viral edits of. Of Richard Nixon, which one Go ahead and scroll down. It is. No, keep going. Okay, right here, right here. So this is the president of the Richard Nixon Foundation. Scroll up a little bit to see. So I just, I trust that the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery will take immediate steps to correct this mistake, lest its many visitors are misled about the 37th president. Look at this letter. So the curators of the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery put on their description of this. I think it's the Norman Rockwell painting of Richard Nixon, that Nixon was impeached. He was never impeached and convicted. He was never impeached and convicted. He left. And so they, they're asking for a correction here on this. It's like even the people who are supposed to be stewards are their brains just as cooked.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Bradley Devlin]

These are the, these are the experts here. And it's all working its way up.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I will down. It's working up. I will mention that, you know, there's something really funny. I don't know if there's a phrase for this, but there's a phenomenon in the English language where a phrase gets shortened to and it turns into the inverse meaning. So common phrases you may have heard like curiosity killed the cat. And the implication there was that if you are inquisitive, you will, you know, you may, you may come to find trouble. The actual phrase is curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought him back. Something like that. There's also jack of all trades, right? Jack of all trades, master of none. Implication that you may be good at a bunch of things, but you're just not good at this one thing. The actual phrase is jack of all trades, master of none, but every so often better than a master of one. The, the actual phrase was meant to say I'm good, a little bit of everything, and sometimes I'm better than you. But we have, we have broken these phrases over, over. We've memified them into the inverse meaning or into a different meaning.

[Kiana]

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[Tim Pool]

I think when you're diagnosed with cancer,

[Kiana]

you crave a semblance of normalcy.

[Tim Pool]

And so work allowed me to be me. So I think it's really important that companies stay flexible. Cancer in a diagnosis can be all

[Kiana]

consuming, but it doesn't have to be.

[Ian Crossland]

Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery. We can make work a better place

[Kiana]

for healing, learn more, and sign the pledge.

[Brett Dasovic]

@workingwithcancerpledge.com I, in charge of marketing, said, we got to shorten the phrase like a YouTube title.

[Tim Pool]

There's a whole bunch of these semantics bleaching, I think.

[Bradley Devlin]

And this is also the monocle semantic bleaching that you were bringing up earlier. Like, like, oh, there used to be this monoculture. Well, how much of that is just fake too, right? Oh, yes. In fact, President Richard Nixon was never impeached. He resigned on August 9, 1974, before the House of Representatives have voted on any articles of impeachment. I think it's like these.

[Tim Pool]

How much of the monoculture is fake?

[Bradley Devlin]

This is. This is like the boomer ethos, right? Like Watergate, 1979, Iranian Revolution, Peak oil. Like, these are the formative events.

[Tim Pool]

Woodstock.

[Ian Crossland]

This is why I don't.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, here's a.

[Ian Crossland]

Here's a funny one, dude. How much. How do you. Can you prove any of this?

[Tim Pool]

Blood is thicker than water. Was is used to imply that family is stronger than, you know, friendship, that you, you know, the phrase actually blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb, meaning the contracts you have are more valuable than just being in someone's family. The inverse meaning curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. It. It's supposed to be encouragement. The reward of discovery is worth the risk. But, you know, my point is a good portion of what we think we know is a corruption that, you know, you look at this history may very well come to a point where they're like, Nixon was impeached and then mercilessly beaten in the street by a horde of riders. And you're like, purple monkey dishwasher.

[Bradley Devlin]

Who is he beaten by? And then they show the picture of the baseball bat.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. We saw such media manipulation in real time during the COVID debacle. We see stuff like this. I mean, and then you go back pre Internet prehistory. Like, I'm so checked out on believing the things that I'm told to believe. Hands down, I brought up religion a minute ago. I'll bring it up again and beat this thing into the ground and build a tent out of it.

[Tim Pool]

There's something that's so good. So the phrase winning isn't everything. You've maybe heard it and it's meant to be encouraging. Like if you lose a game and say, well, winning's in everything. The actual quote is, winning isn't everything. It's the only thing. Oh, man, we just really ruined it. How about this one? This one? Everybody does know the early bird gets the worm. The actual full phrase is the early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

[Ian Crossland]

Does the first one get slaughtered by the mousetrap?

[Tim Pool]

Yes. So the. The implication is, in case that was unclear, slaughtered. Slaughtered. Well, to be fair, I wouldn't call it slaughtering. The mousetrap comes down on it and smashes into its back, snapping its spine. So you know, it's a quick death.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, you can regrow spinal cords by the water with graphene tethers. It's pretty cool. I digress. Dude, I don't believe. I mean, I don't believe.

[Tim Pool]

Here's another one. Great minds think alike. The actual phrase is great minds think alike, but fools seldom differ. So people use the phrase to imply, like, we must both be smart, when it actually means y' all are dumb.

[Ian Crossland]

I think it's the term I don't believe it. Doesn't mean you think it's untrue. It's just saying you're not going to accept that it is true. You cannot believe something but not say it's false. So like religion. I don't believe it. I'm not saying it's not real. I don't know if it's real, but I don't believe it's. Same with a lot of this stuff, man. It's okay to not believe something.

[Tim Pool]

Let's. Let's talk about this while we're, you know, going back in time and reminiscing. Jill Biden says she was frightened by Joe Biden's debate performance. Thought he was having a stroke. Me too. Me too.

[Brett Dasovic]

Why does she need to be saying that? Like, keep it to yourself. That's your home.

[Tim Pool]

Can you guys believe that's really 2026 already? It's May, too. The year's half over. Like, we're only a couple days away from June. I think about 2026.

[Ian Crossland]

Started doing this in 2020, but it's like, bizarre.

[Carter Banks]

The soft white underbelly. The channel.

[Tim Pool]

What is it?

[Carter Banks]

The soft white hunter. Biden did a whole two hour thing on it, and I watched the whole thing last night. It was wild.

[Ian Crossland]

So he's redemption. Full redemption.

[Carter Banks]

No, no, no, not at all.

[Ian Crossland]

Ashley who? Double down. Was it Ashley Sinclair? Interviewed him?

[Tim Pool]

No. Well, here's, here's what I think.

[Ian Crossland]

I got you.

[Tim Pool]

We, we exist as like a vestige of the last, the last strand of American culture that perhaps may be intentionally destroyed. You know, I saw, I saw Bruce Owitz made a post. He was saying, like, if anybody has information about foreign influence and funding to reach out to us. And, and I was just thinking about this phenomenon, you know, like Candace Owens flips. There's a lot of conspiracy theories. One, like we mentioned earlier, that they're creating the new opposition to Trump, which will still be somewhat conservative, so they're eliminating woke. Maybe the whole thing's on purpose, I don't know. But I also kind of feel like Gen Alpha exists in the, in the like hyper clip era. They don't, they don't watch long form podcasts with in depth conversations.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's why I mentioned clippers earlier. That's how you get to them. Now. You don't get to them through long form content. You get to them by flooding their timeline.

[Tim Pool]

Right. But this is the same phenomenon as the shortening of phrases. Whereas a two hour long podcast, actually, it's a really great example that the Trump admin got mad at me because of one of the clips where I said, how dare. I was like, how dare Trump insult Alex Jones. I'm voting Democrat from now on. And they believed it. They thought it was real. They saw a clip, they didn't watch the show, and they're like, oh, well, you know, I never. And it's just like, okay, whatever. I don't care if y' all are dumb. Y' all are dumb. But this is the point. Young people don't watch the full show. They watch the snippet and complain about the, the, the fake version of reality.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, half the time when we're covering things, we have to talk about some clipped or quoted version of something a celebrity says. And then we have to explain how you're. First of all, they were being baited by the journalist. It's being taken out of context. It's not actually like that. And most of it's because you're not engaging with the full form of what you're reading or watching.

[Tim Pool]

You know what's crazy is that like I made that joke where I said something like I can say, what was the joke that I said on the show that went viral?

[Carter Banks]

Oh, you said Trump called me.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Trump called me before he called out Tucker Carlson. And then it went viral and like everybody was sharing it. It was absolutely insane. So knowing that I can consistently Just if I were to come on the show every night and say something to the audience with the full context being people are so dumb, they will believe anything. Like, if I were to say that I can prove definitively the big famous podcasters that everybody's following and I'm avoid naming for legal reasons, I have seen proof they are paid directly. Paid directly by Pakistan. And that's just me making a hypothetical. But what's gonna happen? It's gonna turn to a clip. Clippers are gonna blast it out. The thing is, these clippers don't care what's true or not. They care what the algorithm will hit. A statement like that will then go viral. People who don't, like, you know, Candace or Tucker, will say, here's Tim Pool proving it. And then a bunch of news outlets are gonna write it up and they're gonna be like, this is the crazy thing. A bunch of blog and drama blogs wrote, tim Pool announces he's voting Democrat. And then like a day later had to update it to be like he was joking, though.

[Brett Dasovic]

Even.

[Kiana]

Even.

[Brett Dasovic]

The thing is, they don't even need to do that. They could have included it in the article at the bottom, like they always do. Lie by structure. Right? Well, it was clearly said in Jas. Blah, blah, doesn't matter. The click has already happened by that.

[Tim Pool]

So to generate attention, we should just say things that in full context, we can't be sued over. But out of context sound crazy. I don't. That's.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think it's more than just getting attention, though, because there's an. Integrity is really important, and there's a diminishing return on telling lies. If you have a lot of healthy integrity with your people, they can handle one or two or three or four jokes. But eventually people are just gonna start dismissing you if you.

[Tim Pool]

Here's something. You know what's absolutely not true. Ian Crosland beat a child.

[Ian Crossland]

And I'm not saying Tim kicks kids like it's his job. I'm not saying that Tim just punches the shit. He just beats them up.

[Tim Pool]

You could literally come on this show and just be like, you know what? Never happened ever. Hasan Piker actually was on camera beating his dog. That never happened once.

[Brett Dasovic]

I never.

[Tim Pool]

And then. And then the clippers take it, and then Hasan's gonna see and he's gonna be like, how could Tim Pool have said that? And I'll be like, actually, I was making a joke saying, you never did. But of course, they cut out of context to get views. And, you know, honestly, this is the path towards virality. If we want to be relent, we can just do it every day. Because none of these clippers care whether it's true of.

[Ian Crossland]

This is deepfakes, dude. Because I talk about integrity, but, like, pretty soon the machine's gonna emulate you saying whatever the machine wants you to say. How do you combat that? Hopefully you have human integrity on top. And they know that. Like, they know you would never say that.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, so the. The average. That's actually not true anymore. In a lot of ways. People have been kind of hit with so many crazy headlines over and over again. You don't want to feel dumb for being like, I don't think they would say that. So you just kind of believe that somebody is going to say something crazy when in general your, you know, your brain should kick. And you're like, that seems a little bit ridiculous for me to buy into, but I don't think most people do that because most people are just scrolling by now and they're not actually thinking about it critically.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, eventually it's going to be video and audio of my voice.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know how you should listen.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

But I was talking to my. My. My book, Cody Mac the other day about how AI is just taking over and it's frying everyone's brains. And he was just like, for a lot of stuff too, but he was like a. I still can't get skateboarding. Right. And that's technically true, but it's basically there.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. I couldn't tell when he showed it to me, so. Looked real to me.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he was talking about. There's this. Like, there are these. Oh, dude. It's just. It's. It's. We're. We're cooked. We are cooked. We are. I'm sorry, guys. It's black pilly. But it is. There is this AI Woman account. Half her pictures are just ridiculously like, what's the impossibly large Milkers. Right. That's the phrase.

[Ian Crossland]

That's one way.

[Tim Pool]

And she skateboards. And he was like, did you see the video of the woman doing the crooked grind? Nollie heelflip. 50 50. And anybody knows skateboarding. A crook on a ledge. Nollie heel flip from the ledge onto a 50, 50 onto a rail. Knows very few people in the world could do something like that. That's like beyond Olympic level. You will not see a trick that complicated in the Olympics. That's a trick that maybe only a handful of the top skaters in the world can do after A session where

[Brett Dasovic]

they try to 20, 30, 40 tries, if that.

[Tim Pool]

And it's this big titty, big butt woman doing an impossible trick with perfect balance that is obviously fake. But to a regular person who doesn't know skateboarding, they can't tell the difference. I'm like, dude, it is not years away. Ian, we are already at the point where AI can fully make an episode of Tim Cast irl.

[Ian Crossland]

I believe it, man.

[Bradley Devlin]

You should do it one time.

[Tim Pool]

Just. Just make a two hour episode of IRL that's just totally made by AI

[Bradley Devlin]

the problem is throw it out there, obviously, but, like, but you'd have to.

[Tim Pool]

You have to screen it first because, like, for all you know, abruptly in the middle of the show, like, Ian takes his shirt off for some reason and you're like, all right, yeah, it's not A.I.

[Ian Crossland]

i'm almost there. Brett, what were you gonna say?

[Brett Dasovic]

I said, like, that's. You could premiere it for like a Friday episode.

[Tim Pool]

We should just, like, every episode or every segment randomly insert a phrase that will go viral out of context.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah, we could do the show and we'll say now for all you listening, what's coming up is AI this is fake. This is AI they cut it to the AI and people out of context, they'll think it's real, and then they'll come back to the show. Okay, what you just saw was fake. Back to the show. But someone will.

[Tim Pool]

We don't even have to do that. I could literally just do what I already said and be like, here's something that never happened. Joe Biden actually called me. It was the craziest thing during the election, and asked me to endorse him personally. And I was actually kind of shocked by this. And when I turned him down, he threatened me and said, if you do not come out in support of me, I will accuse you of working for the Russians. And I said, please, dude, is this a joke? I thought it was a fake phone call, so I hung up. Next thing I know, they accused me of working for the Russians. And that literally, literally never happened.

[Bradley Devlin]

40. 40 years from now, you know the show Mad Men? I've never actually watched it. I just know it culturally. But they're these marketing guys. Like, 40 years from now, the Mad Men show of our time will be guys sitting around a room being like, what dance?

[Tim Pool]

I don't think so.

[Bradley Devlin]

What TikTok dance should we do?

[Tim Pool]

I hear that. But the reason why it's not going to happen is because in 40 years, people are going to be gaunt sickly and wearing VR goggles. They're not going to watch shows. I think I actually, I don't think

[Bradley Devlin]

people are down so bad right now.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, listen, you're talking about Gen Alpha being cooked, right? But Gen F is only 40 million. It's half the size of Gen Z. Half people didn't have kids. Gen Alpha isn't just cooked because there's like, they're culturally cooked from social media. They're cooked because our pair bonding mechanism, our family building, community building machine, it's gone. That's why we were like, we got to do the discord. We got to like bring people together and so they can have conversations to kind of keep some element of this alive. And the technocrats and the transhumanists are going to be like, so what already? You know, the creepiest thing is AI girlfriends. Tons of Gen Alpha just have AI girlfriends because it's easy and it's emotionally satisfying enough. It may not be as satisfying as having an actual girlfriend, but at least they feel a little bit well.

[Brett Dasovic]

And they say they don't have to take any risks because they're not going to say no in any meaningful way. They. They understand there's no actual.

[Carter Banks]

There's no fear of rejection.

[Brett Dasovic]

Exactly. That's a. That's a big part of it.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, a big part of being a relationship is learning how to grow for someone with someone else.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. Let me pull this story up for you guys from the Daily Mail. Canadian doctor met Man, 45, suffering from IBD and depression outside Tim Hortons and took him to be euthanized. Dr. James McLean has been placed under mandatory clinical supervision for six months following allegations that he improperly administered MAID to two patients. In other words, he killed people. He killed them. Dylan, 45, was deemed eligible for MAID by McLean and a nurse practitioner due to his condition, which led to persistent complications of the colostomy bag. According to medical records, McLean conducted the maid assessment outside of Tim Hortons in June of 2023. This was three years ago when we were warning this stuff would happen. It was actually already happening. So we look at the younger generation, they're not having families, they're not finding jobs.

[Kiana]

I need to be healthy every day to survive it and go through the next chemo round and the next chemo round. So it's important that work was part of that to keep my mind busy for eight, nine hours. And then I had to go back and face the reality. I had a goal and the goal is to survive.

[Ian Crossland]

Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery. We can make work a better place

[Kiana]

for healing, learn more and sign the [e-mail] they're getting, look at this.

[Tim Pool]

AI girlfriends telegraph the terrifying rise of school boys making AI girlfriends. And the older generation, these are people who are middle aged are being murdered by doctors. So I'm sorry if I'm black belt a little bit, but I want to stress this. Three years ago when we were talking about the rise of maiden saying this may start happening, it was actually already happening and imagine how bad it must be right now. But these people are doing it in secret and they're getting away with it.

[Bradley Devlin]

Well, it's a testament to the fact that I think the elites are realizing like these programs are born out of, of. How do I, how do I put this bluntly? They, this is born out of resource scarcity. That they do not want to change the way that they have governed or that they have run society. Right. Like the reason that this exists in Canada and in other countries is because they just think it's cheaper to kill people. And that's the most disgusting part. And you see this over and over and over again with totalitarian communist states like Cuba for example. Oh, the left will talk all the time about how Cuba's health system is so much better compared to the United States and it's free. Well, guess what, you create artificial abundance by killing a whole bunch of freaking people or running them off of your island.

[Brett Dasovic]

Even, even decades before, like where I'm from in Minnesota, I remember reading articles about wet houses which were, you know, had government funding tied to them where basically you were allowed to just go and die about. They're not going to buy you the alcohol, but you're taken, you're allowed to live there and basically just drink till you die. And that was always to me, I was like, I can't believe the government would be in, in bed with any business like that or how anything like that. Because it's, it's one thing when you talk about maid and people can have their whole discussion about the concept of suicide and what you think about that, but in no way should it ever be tied to the government in any way, shape or form.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, if you're a utilitarian government agent and say there's a horrible famine, the water supply is cut out, people are starving to death in cities across America. You have to make a choice. How dangerous are each of these cities to the order? What are they costing us per day? Who can we Let die first. Who can we speed up the death of to cheapen the system so that other people can survive? Because we can't all survive and if we try, we're all gonna die. There are situations where it is cheaper to let people. I mean they used to send them to the meat machine, the grind machine. They used to just leave them on the side of the road cause they couldn't walk. Like at some point, you know, you have to take care of yourself. And if you can't rely on a government to save you or therefore you

[Brett Dasovic]

rely on the government to kill you,

[Ian Crossland]

well, it's not up to the government. But I mean if it's easier than trying to do it in your house and going half retarded as a result of failing, you know.

[Bradley Devlin]

Right. I don't have to be. You have to be independent to avoid the impulse for the government to go utilitarian on you.

[Ian Crossland]

That is correct.

[Bradley Devlin]

That's the big thing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

So I'm not black pilled and I'm not cooked. We're not cooked. But I understand people are stunted.

[Tim Pool]

I think that it's how humans go extinct, man.

[Ian Crossland]

It's definitely one way. But humans will continue. I mean we got bombarded by meteors and came out of it like 6,000 humans left on Earth or some crazy crazy 18,000 humans left on Earth.

[Tim Pool]

Earth.

[Ian Crossland]

And they repopulated the planet from that. We're like an infestion. We can infestation. We take this planet and made it our own. And it's never going to go away. As far as I can tell, we've

[Bradley Devlin]

got it forever now we need to repopulate. We need to get that birth rate up. But you mentioned this at the top of the show that you had a marriage from the discord.

[Tim Pool]

We've had a couple handful of people got married through our discord.

[Bradley Devlin]

Were you invited to the wedding?

[Tim Pool]

I think maybe one of them.

[Bradley Devlin]

That's like amazing that people got married.

[Tim Pool]

Well, people get married. It's what they do. It's actually, it's actually not surprised. It's kind of. I would say it's actually scary.

[Bradley Devlin]

Discord.

[Tim Pool]

That's pretty.

[Brett Dasovic]

But they found like minded people that shared their values. So I'm just saying like to find

[Tim Pool]

marriage is particularly mundane. But it's just. It's supposed to be, but it's not anymore. Go to the 50s. It was like you were 18 and you were like who am I going to marry? That was it. It's funny because back then dating would meant like a woman would be dating 10 guys. What did that mean? It would mean that she would go out to get a soda pop, you know, you know, a root beer float, and they would hang out for a couple hours and then go home, and they were dating. But then she'd also, the next day go with another guy. But then she'd start going steady. Going steady meant she's basically become exclusive with one guy and now they've got something going on. And within a year, they were married and they were like 20 years old.

[Brett Dasovic]

He wasn't asking, what's your body count?

[Tim Pool]

Right. By 20, on average, between 20 and 22 people were married and having their first kids get. And they had jobs. They were already working and out of high school, weren't going to college, and they were thinking about, like, we're going to go buy our first house. That was mundane.

[Bradley Devlin]

It was one. It was mundane. It's not anymore.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, now it's. Now it's in the fact.

[Bradley Devlin]

But, like, the fact that that's happening on your channels is pretty freaking cool. Don't under. Don't underplay it. Be like. It's just mundane.

[Tim Pool]

Like, Well, I mean, it.

[Bradley Devlin]

It.

[Tim Pool]

It is. It is cool. But again, we have to understand what perspective means. We should not be living in a society where we're like, wow, a couple people got married. That's horrifying. That is nightmare dystopia stuff. So we need to be like, guys, get married. You know what I mean? But I gotta tell you, because I talked to some of my guy friends, and they're just outright saying, like, it is impossible these days. And one of the reasons is the socialization of the modern woman. I brought this up years ago on this show, and the left went nuts. And the funny thing about the left is, like, they like to attack masculinity and then attack you if you're not masculine. So it's like, bro, your booze mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer. Modern women try to get men by bragging about how manly they are. It's not an exaggeration. They'll say, like, I have this great job. I get paid a lot of money, and guys go, I don't care. There was a. There was a story that I covered, actually. Let me. Let me pull this up so I can find it. Women struggle to date guys with same income. This was years ago. I covered this. And liberals lost their minds. 2019. Let's roll, baby. Let's. Let's go. Let's do it. Women are struggling to find men who make as Much money as they do. Well, let me see, let me find one example.

[Ian Crossland]

Because you took their jobs.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no. Here we go. Gina Thibodeau. So single New Yorker Gina, I hope, hey, look, it's been seven years, man, I hope she, she's, she's found family job. Gina, they say, has some theories. I find generally that dudes these days just do less across the board. Their parents have coddled them and taken care of them and they just don't go out there and make more money. Let me tell you what's wrong with this argument and what's really happening, Gina. You are. How old is a 38 years old? Do you think a 38 year old guy who's making $80,000 a year is dating you? The guys who are dating you are the guys who do nothing. These are the guys who can't get anybody else. A 38 year old guy making between 50 and 100 per year might not be in the ideal. I mean, 38 should have a family already. You should have kids already. Look, I know I was late to the party, but you get a guy in his 30s, he's going to be dating a woman who's 28, he's gonna be dating a much younger woman. And, and the younger guy who's 28 can't compete because the older guys have the money and the car and the apartment and the younger guys don't have that yet. She thinks guys aren't doing anything. And while it's true, there are a lot of guys that aren't, the only guys willing to date a 38 year old spinster are the low value males creating the perception, perception among these women, that guys are just not good. Now the reality is there's a bunch of dudes who are like, let's say they're 35, have a good salary and they're just banging all the feminists and then doing whatever they want. They don't got to settle down because that's. Those are the rules of the game. This is, this is what these women just don't. Feminists got Superman when I pointed this out because they don't want to, they don't want, they don't want to realize that they live in this world where they are not valuable partners. No guy, I'm sorry. Some guys, sorry, I know the women are not going to understand averages. Most guys, when the women go to them and say, I'm a nurse practitioner, I make $50,000 a year, the guy's going to be like, I don't need a business partner.

[Ian Crossland]

He's going to be like, cool, when are you off work? Let's go, I want to get you.

[Tim Pool]

No, no. He's going to say, listen, if we're going to have a relationship, I need a woman. I already have a job, I already make money, I can't have kids. I don't need a woman who's going to be a man. I need a woman who's going to be a mom. And the women are like oh, oh, you're just scared of strong women. Well there you go. So I feel bad for these young guys. The socialization of the modern woman telling them to be like men and try to attract men. But then guys don't find compatibility with this and they're not having families and having kids. So Gen Gen Alpha is half the size of Gen Z young guys. What I this story from the Telegraph says that something like was like 43% of. Of men under the age of what did they say? Like between under the age of 16. Regularly chat with bots.

[Brett Dasovic]

Those that was a UK study, right? I think. Yeah, we covered that on the channel.

[Ian Crossland]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

8 in 10 boys have a conversation with a chat bot. With 43 saying they talk to bots so they can ask questions without feeling embarrassed. More than a quarter say they like the attention and connection over real life equivalence. So yeah, guys, Gen Alpha is going to be. A bunch of women are going to be locked in a room with a vibrator and dudes are going to be locked in a room with their waifu. Whatever.

[Bradley Devlin]

In short, this is a great rant by Tim, but in short, Discord, I'm looking at you right now. He's not impressed with your handful of marriages. More of you need to get married in the discord.

[Tim Pool]

Well here's, here's, here's one of the interesting things we got.

[Ian Crossland]

We got to talk about sex.

[Tim Pool]

Women don't listen to politics. The only politics that women listen to, and this is a fact, is Candace Owens.

[Ian Crossland]

Well that's a generalization but I mean there's some, there's women listening.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, that is literally a generalization.

[Ian Crossland]

90% man or something in the audience right now.

[Tim Pool]

See there's a lot of women, you know Ian, I just don't respect it when you do this.

[Ian Crossland]

Well I don't respect hyperbole.

[Tim Pool]

What you said no. Women watch politics. Uh huh.

[Ian Crossland]

And there's probably like a thousand women listening right now.

[Tim Pool]

And if their IQ is sub 70, well that's too bad. There's a lot of things they can't understand. And I wouldn't be able to express myself monosyllabically enough to convey these complex ideas anyway. So when I say something like, women don't listen to politics, you. You don't need to correct it and go, there are some that. Do we get that? Well, you want more generalization intentionally.

[Ian Crossland]

You want more women listening.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know if I want more men to listen to politics. It is just a thing. The point I am bringing up is what I said was the only politics women listen to is Candace Owens. Right.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so the top podcasts among women are True Crime and Sex. And among women, one of the top podcasts is Candace Owens. And it's tangentially political. She doesn't care about electoral politics. She says it herself. But she has a massively female audience. So she gets women in that space. Again, conspiratorial. You know, it's all one big plan to create a controlled opposition, a new left. Right. That is centered around what MAGA is.

[Ian Crossland]

I think we should talk about sex more because we talk about this being a family friendly show. You want to make families, you talk about sex. You get women to come here.

[Tim Pool]

You can talk about dating, not sex. It's hot.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, whatever. You want women to be enjoyed. You want this to be like a family friend. You want families. I understand if little kids. But we talk about guts getting ripped open. Little kids shouldn't be hearing that stuff either. Like, we need sec.

[Tim Pool]

We need to do. I was talking to my. My. One of. One of my. One of my boys today and he was saying like his girlfriend just goes on and on about how she wants buckle fat remove removal and lip fillers and breast implants. And he's just going like, oh, my God, man. Like, no guy likes this. You know what I mean? Like, obviously, Ian, there are some guys that like plastic. Plastic drag queen looking women. But we're talking about the other day. I can't remember who brought up. I don't know if you brought it up. These young girls grew up watching James Charles or whatever. They grew up watching drag queens.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, Tate said that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So now these, these women want to look like drag queens and guys do not want to date guys. This is the crazy thing. Women are getting plastic surgery to look like, to look like drag queens while bragging about having masculine roles in society. Like they are just telling women to act more like men and guys are not attracted by it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, we gotta get. What do we need girls that are just chill.

[Brett Dasovic]

The. The funny thing is, is like if you look at the like with what I cover like with movies at the box office. The women don't come out to see. Women do movies where they're playing manly roles like superheroes. The guys go out and watch those and then the audience splits off because not enough go watch the. The female led ones outside of a few examples to really move it at the box office. But they will go see Barbie. They will go see it ends with us with which is based on a Colleen Hoover book. They will go watch things that women actually like talking about. Devil Wears Prada too is still doing really well at the box office because it's generically feminist and fits into that girl boss side of what they actually like, which is, you know, there's the ones like Barbie is a generically feminist movie and Devil wears Prada 2 is about girl boss feminism they love.

[Tim Pool]

I see someone. Someone chatted. Tim's out of touch. Go on a dating app. Women are all communists. No sir, you misunderstand. Women do not listen to politics.

[Ian Crossland]

I think that's.

[Tim Pool]

They don't pull up news shows. Let me finish. And listen to political talk. And that's why they're communists because if they actually heard the truth about what was going on, they would be moderate to right leaning.

[Ian Crossland]

And women generally are communistic because they're about protecting the family at any cost. Will give anything for everyone in that environment and then go out wars.

[Tim Pool]

You're inverting it.

[Ian Crossland]

That's where their general love of the communistic ethos.

[Tim Pool]

The, the, the. So women, they just do what they're told to do. And I'm speaking in general, I understand here to social orthodoxy heavily because they just want. And low T guys do this too. High testosterone guys fight each other. Lotus has strong guys. Hey, just tell me what to do and leave me alone.

[Ian Crossland]

Women generally don't want to fight and men go out and they break bears and they cut them open to bring the.

[Tim Pool]

Remember the dry guys on buzzfeed when they all had like, like yeah. T levels like 80 year old men.

[Brett Dasovic]

And like the one that. The one that had reasonable testosterone was gay.

[Carter Banks]

Well, I think there is like, like a thing with a lot of guys are just super weak right now too. Like it's not all the women. And there's like this. I'm not sure how to explain it but like a tendency to just kind of like not know how to understand women.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I think one of the issues is there was a post on Reddit on like I guess a front page doesn't exist. On Reddit anymore, but it was some AI animation where a guy walks up to a woman and he's like. He's like, hey, just wanted to introduce myself. He's like, my name's John. I. You know, you looked interesting. I was wondering if you'd ever want to go out, hang out sometime. And she goes, no. And he goes, okay, it was nice talking. He turns around and walks away. And then she goes, wait, what? You're just gonna leave? And he goes, you said, no, I got Nintendo. I'm gonna go play video games. And he just walked off.

[Ian Crossland]

I'll give you a little advice.

[Tim Pool]

All the comments were talking, like, comments from women were saying things like. Like, men, don't try anymore. Men won't pursue us. And it's like, bro, y', all feminists put out a video called 10 Hours of Walking Through New York as a Woman, where you claim that a guy saying mourning was sexual harassment. So now you're surprised? Young guys are like, leave me the f alone.

[Ian Crossland]

I think dancing. Dancing is one of the most epic ways to find a woman. You go out where women are dancing, men are dancing.

[Brett Dasovic]

Mating rituals.

[Tim Pool]

Now, I won't say there's.

[Ian Crossland]

Birds do it.

[Tim Pool]

There was a really funny post. I don't. I think it was from Andrew Tate, where it's a video of, like, a breeding bull being released to a bunch of cows.

[Ian Crossland]

Seen it.

[Tim Pool]

And then the. The bull, like, walks out, and all the girls are, like, swarming around and sniffing him. And then Andrew Tate commented. Been there.

[Ian Crossland]

Did you see the. One of the bull being released? And he's like. Walks out lazily, doesn't know what's going on, and he looks around, and then he sees the females, and he, like, jumps for joy.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go.

[Ian Crossland]

Everyone's clapping for him.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go, ladies.

[Brett Dasovic]

There was one post the other day where a guy said, like, if a woman brings up politics on a first date, he just doesn't even bother. Not because he doesn't want to talk about politics, but because she doesn't. She just wants to hear that she's right, and they don't actually want.

[Carter Banks]

Also, arguing lowers attraction, too.

[Tim Pool]

It's not just that. I would. I would say that if you go, if never, never swipe on a woman who's got politics in her profile. And if, you know, you want to hear there's one thing that'll guarantee you a perfect marriage. You're on a date and you say something like, oh, like, let me, you know, look at your Instagram. I don't have Instagram. Marry me. Tick tock. I don't use tick tock.

[Brett Dasovic]

When I, when, when I met my wife, I said one of the biggest green flags was not having the newest and biggest iPhone.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the, the, the literal green flag is when she tells you she doesn't really care for social media. I think is bad. There was an article, wish people would just go hiking more.

[Brett Dasovic]

There was an article of the Inverse recently where it was a woman writing an article that says a green flag is having a Luddite husband who doesn't spend much time online.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that's arguable. But that, but you know what that that's about. It's because then when she says to her husband, you know, that Trump's a fascist, they'll go, oh. Oh, wow. Yeah, I didn't know. Sure.

[Ian Crossland]

I can't really speak for women, but I would think you'd want a guy that's somewhat connected to what's going on in the world so that you're not going to get jumped by the outside world.

[Brett Dasovic]

But the article, like, that. He didn't, like, read the news. They're saying that he's not on social media constantly. He's not posting selfies and stuff like that because it is inherently a bit, you know, less masculine.

[Ian Crossland]

If it's for business, if it's for work. Like, I. I don't really post a lot on Instagram, but I did over

[Brett Dasovic]

the weekend some once in a while. It's a difference, like, how often do they do it? And it just ends up being a weird worship of self.

[Bradley Devlin]

My wife's family. This was a green flag for me when we were dating, but my wife's family only had a TV in their basement, which was awesome. Which was like, hey. And this thing's like, we don't really have. We don't. They didn't have cable growing up. They had the four public channels and they had a DVD player. So this thing only plays movies, and it only plays them when the whole family's down there. To this day, they do not have a TV on the first floor of their house, which is awesome. Every single time I go over there, I spend way more time talking to family members. I spend way more time in the quiet moments reading. You know, even if it's on my phone, I'm reading.

[Ian Crossland]

It's noise pollution, bro. I can't stand televisions in the house that are on. Oh, God, it's so annoying. I'm gonna.

[Bradley Devlin]

Unless Tucker was like. Tucker was like, why would I invite these people into my own home so that they can yell at me if,

[Tim Pool]

if Gutfeld is on. Then I just go to sleep peacefully just hearing Greg's voice just, it's like

[Ian Crossland]

a lullaby, just earbuds in. All night I've been seeing videos of like, this was what life was like before phones in like 1998, you know, people just walking around looking at each other, you know, you know what, you

[Tim Pool]

know, it's funny, it's like, I know it's nostalgia. There's this Instagram account that makes these nostalgia videos and it was like waking up in the year is 1999 and he's like, what's happening? And he's like looking at his old Windows 95 computer or whatever and I'm like, you know, I think back to those times. There was a nostalgia post on Reddit where it showed in 1999, a bunch of like 12 year old boys playing N64. And it was like, you wish you could go back. And I'm like, yeah, I would love to be in like just to be perpetually in the year 1999. The thing is, I know it's nostalgia and I know we just miss the things we had as kids, but I genuinely believe it is true right now that the younger generations are existing in a nightmare hell scenario. They are not feeling the joy and wonder that we did when we were kids. And they, like I was reading an article that talked about how Gen Z and Gen Alpha have nostalgia for an era they didn't live in because it was talking about how like 20 year olds look at these photos of the 90s of what it was like growing up and they wish they had that. So I'm like, I, I genuinely do think we would be better off civilizationally if it was more like the 90s and that the young people, Gen Z and Genoa growing up in the AI social media age, again, they're not experiencing the fun, the joy, excitement, the passion. They are just living in a perpetual torture.

[Bradley Devlin]

What style, what style is back right now? 90s style. Like my, my little sister who's just turned 16, like she's going around and like buying all sorts of 90s style clothing. And it's just cracking me up seeing this. Like you have no context for what this actually meant at the time, but you're longing for something that's more analog. And I think also with the social media stuff, it pushes kids to grow up way too fast. The exposure to porn, the exposure to drugs, the exposure to all of those things and every single thing that we might suggest that kids Stay away from until they're at least adults. Right? All these things, it always coincides with if they're exposed to them. Higher rates of anxiety, higher rates of depression. Depression. Higher rates of all of these different types of mental illnesses that ultimately make community impossible.

[Tim Pool]

I have an idea. You know, people believe that the Amish, like, live in wooden sheds and don't have electricity, but it's not true or anywhere or anything like that. Let's create like the. The semi Luddite movement where we all come together as a community and we just convince our kids it's the 90s. So we're like, look at this new game console that just came out. We got like a refurbished N64. And they'll be like, New Mario.

[Bradley Devlin]

Wow.

[Brett Dasovic]

Wasn't that an M. Night Shyamalan movie?

[Ian Crossland]

The forest, kind of.

[Bradley Devlin]

The Village.

[Ian Crossland]

The village, yeah. I'll tell you, it's not just nostalgia

[Tim Pool]

this, but I'm saying, like, the joy and wonder of Super Nintendo coming out. I remember my dad went to Blockbuster Video and rented a Super Nintendo so that we could play it it because, like, we couldn't afford to get one. And then I remember I got good grades, so I got Mega Man X. And then, you know, just playing it. We had it in the basement. That's where our TV with SNE was. SNES was. It was in, like, behind the laundry room and just like the undeveloped part of the basement.

[Brett Dasovic]

People got mad because I was like, you don't actually miss Blockbuster because you didn't have to pay the late fees. And you don't remember that the videos were always sold out.

[Tim Pool]

I remember that I had. Was it. Was it dead or alive? What was that? Was it fighting game that came out for the PlayStation where the chicks had the. You could. You could customize the boob. Jiggle.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, no.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Jiggle physics.

[Tim Pool]

And so I rented. I rented that game and it fell down the side of my bed and I forgot about it. Then one day I went to rent a game and they were like, you can't rent anything because you're past due and you owe like 20 bucks. And I was like, what's past due? And they were like, I think was called Dead or Life. And then I was like, huh? And then I went in my room and I just digging around, it was a mess. And I found the Blockbuster box smashed against the wall.

[Brett Dasovic]

Dollars. I'm surprised it wasn't way more than the 90s.

[Tim Pool]

There was a cap to the. It was like a few days, but it was. It was the cap to like the price of the game or whatever. And then you'd like, you drop it, own the game.

[Ian Crossland]

After that, you have to just buy. I thought the 90s was like leaving orbit. It was exciting. Time to be young. Because it was like we were on the rocket going out and now we're in space and it's like, yo, everywhere I look is blackness.

[Tim Pool]

That's true.

[Ian Crossland]

It's this weird void.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Carter Banks]

But it gets worse.

[Tim Pool]

That is, that's, that's exactly it.

[Ian Crossland]

We're going somewhere and.

[Tim Pool]

No, no. And the universe is expanding, it seems like. And so we're watching the planets move further and further away.

[Ian Crossland]

It's frustrating and it's like almost. It's like, it's like Dev. It feels that. It can feel lonely and like, like we've lost, but we're going somewhere. That's. You got to remember the night the

[Brett Dasovic]

end of the 90s. If you go watch advertising at that time there was a lot of tech futurism and a lot of hopefulness around the idea of technology and how it was going to make the world a better place. And you can't recapture that side of.

[Tim Pool]

I'm telling you, I got it. I got to, I got to find a manager for my hotel chain idea that I talked to you guys about. Right. Yeah, it's. You do it as an Airbnb and you know, maybe what we do is like we buy four houses. One house, everything inside of it is the 90s, one's the 80s, one's the 70s, one's the 60s. And then you can just like rent it out. When you're in there, the TV will use like a raspberry PI to pre program television from the 90s. And you'll have like the, the VHF and the UF, UHF dials. And you'll actually, it'll, it'll play in real time. Like three days worth of TV you just discovered.

[Carter Banks]

Watch that on YouTube.

[Bradley Devlin]

Decades from first principles. Like, do you know what this is, this club in Washington? It's like this, it's a rundown club. Every single floor is a different decade.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, check it out.

[Bradley Devlin]

Have you seen, you go to the 70s, then 80s?

[Tim Pool]

But I'm saying like you get a house and then like you do community on the fridge, there is like a Pizza Hut thing and when you call, the guy shows up with a 90s style pizza box and soda. I guarantee you 90s prices if you booked out permanently. I got the idea because Blockbuster did a 90s night. The last Blockbuster a few years ago has a 90s living room. And they did like a three day. You could reserve Airbnb. Well, I don't think. Was it an Airbnb.

[Brett Dasovic]

They turned it into an Airbnb, but

[Tim Pool]

it was like for three days only. And then everybody just like it sold out instantly. And they wanted to have a sleepover in the 90s. Living room. And I was like, we talked about doing it and I was talking with some people about running it and they said the biggest concern, they don't know how to get past the problem of the, the high frequency of suicides you would get.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, people wanted to go there to kill themselves away.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, well. Because what's going to happen is they were like, listen, there's going to be like a 36 year old guy who was like, why flopped him and took the kids and he's gonna go back to like the 1999 room playing Super Mario 64 by himself, drinking. And then he's gonna drink himself to death.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, we didn't do it alone. It was about community. That was what made.

[Tim Pool]

But like the people who are gonna do it are gonna be like, my friends are all gone. They've moved on.

[Ian Crossland]

Wanna not get lost in nostalgia? For sure.

[Tim Pool]

I used to get a Halo room where it's like you go in and there's like four TVs around each other. And there's still

[Ian Crossland]

about like the early YouTube days, 2006 and 7, where we were starting like the community of YouTube.

[Brett Dasovic]

I was gonna say like, let's not free. I see 2007, we don't have Obamacare yet.

[Tim Pool]

After 2007 they're protesting. We got to get at least some of the rumble rants, bro. We have four minutes. Save it for the uncensored show.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay? I'll tell you on the uncensored show.

[Tim Pool]

Smash the like button. Share the show. Let's grab some of what you guys got to say. Omnistone Herald says on Sunday night our fifth child was born. We were only in the labor department for five minutes. My wife pushes like a cannon.

[Ian Crossland]

That is incredible, dude.

[Tim Pool]

Congratulations. Well, you know, look, look on your fifth kid. She's a pro.

[Ian Crossland]

Child's gonna be relaxed.

[Tim Pool]

Jacob Wallies is breaking. Spanish military and investigative police have burst into the Spanish workers party headquarters in Madrid. They are the current ruling party. Their people were trying to push them out. I heard. Man, that's crazy. Patriot Paladin says the Bergdorf Goodman is a luxury department store, which means there's a concierge sales associate lurking and following at all times. There's almost zero percent Chance Trump was alone. Agreed. It makes literally no sense. Trump on the building next door, just not real.

[Ian Crossland]

He might have known the guy, known the owner, if he owns the building next door.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean, just the reality of Trump going in and being like, I need you to make sure there's no one in the sixth floor. Uncharacteristically. Then the locked waiting room door, keep it open, then watch guard, because I'm going to trick this woman I'd never met before into going in there so I can rape her.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't believe her, but that doesn't mean that she's lying. And she needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she's telling the truth. I don't believe her.

[Tim Pool]

Every time you're like, you know what I think? I think we need to entertain what I and saying. Perhaps she not only did Trump have the manager clear out the floor, unlock the door in advance, back away so that Trump could go in, but while he was e. Jean Carroll activated a time portal, which she reached through and grabbed a dress from the future to wear while Trump did it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I don't think the dress thing. I think she was wrong about the dress thing for sure.

[Bradley Devlin]

Wrong?

[Tim Pool]

Apparently she offered it up as evidence and asked them to DNA test. It sounds like she's lying. Did it get Trump's DA Trump is

[Brett Dasovic]

a time travel, so.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. Well, actually, that's what someone says. Steel, Steel, shattered hand says Tim Trump gave the dress of the future to the woman that named one of her pet's vagina because Trump is a time traveler.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, that lady.

[Brett Dasovic]

I was right.

[Tim Pool]

All right. LS58 says, not to mention the vast majority of videos of animal abuse on farms. It's an immigrant farm worker.

[Ian Crossland]

Hey, not always, bro.

[Tim Pool]

I went to my favorite. One of my favorite stories ever is went to a dairy farm. I hear all these stories from vegans about how the milk we drink, it's got possum blood and the cows are sickly. Not true. It's all fake.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, there's some somatic cells in. In California.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I, I went to a dairy farm where they produce a good portion of it even not the majority in California, not this one farm, but in this whole area. And we drove down to all these farms to house, and I go to this house and we were knocking on doors. This is what journalism is like. When Candace Owens says, Nick Shirley couldn't do it, she's lying. Literally walked with random house, knocked on the door. A guy answered and said, howdy. Producer was like, hi. Sorry to Bother you? We're reporters covering the drought, and we were looking to talk to some farmers about how it's affecting their.

[Brett Dasovic]

Their.

[Tim Pool]

Their cattle. And he went, yeah, for sure. He gave an interview talking about how they got a drill for groundwater because the animals have to drink and the crops, they have to water, and it's been really, really bad for the area. Afterwards, I was just like, I noticed that there's no fence. You know, the cows were all eating. And he was like, oh, yeah? What do you mean? And I said, well, like, your. Your cows, they're not, like, fenced in. And he goes, yeah. And I was like, okay. Well, I'm so. I want to go, like, what if the cows leave? And he goes, where would they go? And then I was like, I don't know. They just wander off or something. And he was like, like, well, there's food here. And I was like, it just never occurred to me. I don't know. And in his mind, he's like. He's a. He's a cattle farmer his whole life. He's like, cows don't leave. There's a saying till the cows come home. It's like. He's like, they might, like, wander off a little bit to go graze, and then they just come back, and then they eat some grain or. And he was. And we talked to him about, like, cows getting milked. And he's like, oh, they do it themselves. When the cows need to get milked, they walk into a stall and it automatically milks them. And he goes, the cows want to be milked because it hurts. And I was like, oh. And then I'm sitting there being like, I heard that they forced the cows in the machine, injures the udders, and there's blood, and they're sick and infected. Just not true. We went, we drove. We saw a whole bunch of these farms. And when you get, like, lower part

[Bradley Devlin]

of the Central Valley in California.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were all happy cows that the cows could just leave if they wanted to. And they're not meat cows.

[Ian Crossland]

You gotta be careful about the whole Potemkin. The Chinese hat showed us around. So there's no bad things here. We didn't see any. So it doesn't exist. Like, like, the nasty probably wouldn't go

[Tim Pool]

into Larry county onto people's properties and knocked on their doors abruptly without being invited.

[Ian Crossland]

Have you seen, though, like, video from inside, like, undercover video of, like, animals with, like, pus in their eyes getting used by workers and stuff?

[Tim Pool]

Like you are saying packed together that the propaganda vegan videos. You know, PETA got, like, sued several times for stealing people's animals and killing them. Right.

[Ian Crossland]

I would believe it. I didn't.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not sure there was one big story. They broke into someone's property, grabbed the dog, and ran off and killed.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, they're radical. That's a radical group.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. The videos you're talking about are propaganda.

[Carter Banks]

Maybe.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe. I mean, I've just seen stuff where it's like, okay, okay, don't worry. A bunch of animals together and make them.

[Tim Pool]

Don't worry, it's fake.

[Ian Crossland]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Don't worry. That's fake. Don't tell me when I actually investigated this and found it to not be true, that I'm wrong, because don't say

[Ian Crossland]

I investigated eight things, therefore none of it exists. Because I, I talk.

[Tim Pool]

No, I outright said sometimes bad people do bad things. But when we went to. To California farms, all throughout Southern California to Central California, we went to fruit farms, we went to animal farms, we went to the Bay Area because there was big concern about the. The. So they've got the delta smelt. They want to stop. They don't want to divert the delta water to the south. One of the biggest issues that didn't get brought. That doesn't get brought up when Trump talks about the delta smelt is that if you, if you stop the flow of the fresh water into the, into the Bay Area, into the delta, what happens is the water level will start to drop and seawater will flood into the bay turn, turning so deep inland it's fresh water, and they grow a lot of fruits and vegetables. If it becomes brackish, all those farms die. We explored and investigated all of this. My point is, Ian, you watch some random videos on the Internet that are hyp, hyperbolic, propagandistic, not real. And then you told me, when I actually did the investigation, it may be a Potemkin village.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I mean, maybe you saw a portion of a portion of farms on Earth and you made. Don't make a blanket decision of all farms everywhere, because you interviewed.

[Tim Pool]

No, I didn't. I said, when I investigated, I found that it was generally not true.

[Bradley Devlin]

What would be the general rule? That's what you're getting at here, right?

[Tim Pool]

My point is it's not. Animal activists find extremist videos of people committing crimes, then tell you everyone's doing it, and they tell you there's an industrial agricultural industry. And then when I actually investigated, made phone calls to people in Texas and talked to them, and they were like, oh, that's just not real. Cattle walk wherever they want. If you look at the property nearby, the the cows freely roam 200 acres where they walk down to the stream and drink water with their babies. We do kill them eventually, but they live however they want. The farmers don't beat them and make them live in mud. And they're not pussed out.

[Ian Crossland]

Pigs. It's pigs. I've seen.

[Tim Pool]

There are bad people doing bad things. Anyway, we're going to the uncensored portion of the show. Smash the like button. Share the show. Go to rumble.com timcast irl where we will talk more about how leftists are liars and are trying to get you to eat bugs through manipulation. And when that don't work, they tell you they're going to genetically engineer. They're going to. They're going to biologically engineer ticks that can bite you to make you allergic to meat. Because that's a real video. So let's talk about how they lie. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast, good sir, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah.

[Bradley Devlin]

Bradley Devlin on X. Radley Devlin. Check out the signal. Sit down. Check out the Daily Signal. We got a lot of great stuff coming. We just sent a reporter to skid row so see what we found and what they think about Spencer Pratt, Karen Bass and the entire LA Mayors race coming soon.

[Brett Dasovic]

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[Ian Crossland]

I'm Ian Crossland. Go check out my Instagram. We had an epic weekend in Las Vegas, Nevada at the Enhanced Games. Documented it. Tim and I and a crew went out there. There's somebody on Instagram, but I really want to point you to the Tim Cass Culture War YouTube channel. Go there. Check out the most recent uploaded video with a lot of great interviews behind the scenes. I think we. Tim, you may have interviewed an athlete. I'm not sure, but I talked to the cfo. It was great times. Check it out. Catch you later. Carter Banks.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, I started watching that on the way here. Have not yet finished it, but I'm very excited to. If you want to follow me, I'm at Carter Banks everywhere at Carter Banks. Official everywhere else. Follow our record label @trashsserecords on YouTube and yeah, let's get into the after show.

[Tim Pool]

We'll see you [e-mail] TimCastirl in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.