Elon Musk & Vivek Appointed By Trump To Department Of Efficieny DOGE w/Myron Gaines

Summary

Detailed Summary of "Timcast IRL" Episode: "Elon Musk & Vivek Appointed By Trump To Department Of Efficiency DOGE w/Myron Gaines"

Release Date: November 13, 2024

Podcast Overview: "Timcast IRL," hosted by Tim Pool of Timcast Media, delivers incisive news and analysis on politics, culture, and current events from an independent perspective. This episode features discussions on President Donald Trump's recent appointments, critiques of government inefficiency, the declining state of mainstream media, immigration policies, and the evolving dynamics of political and cultural divisions within the United States.

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1. Trump's Appointments and the Department of Government Efficiency

Key Topics:

• Formation of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE): President Trump announces the creation of DOGE, led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, aimed at reducing government bureaucracy and enhancing operational efficiency.

• Leadership Appointments:

  • Pete Hegseth as Defense Secretary: Myron Gaines expresses enthusiasm for Trump's appointment of Pete Hegseth, highlighting his military background and advocating for his effectiveness.
  • John Ratcliffe as CIA Director: Discussion around former DNI John Ratcliffe’s new role and its potential impact on intelligence operations.

Notable Quotes:

• Myron Gaines (00:22): "Donald Trump has announced that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will be working in conjunction to run the Department of Government Efficiency. Doge."
• Libby Emmons (04:06): "Together, these two wonderful Americans will pave the way for my administration to dismantle government bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures..."

2. Critique of Government Bureaucracy

Key Topics:

• Inefficiency in Government Agencies: Tim Pool and guests discuss the pervasive laziness and lack of accountability within federal agencies, citing personal experiences from Tim Pool’s tenure at Homeland Security Investigations.

• Public Sector vs. Private Sector: Emphasis on how government employees often lack the incentive to perform efficiently compared to their private-sector counterparts.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Pool (07:16): "Government employees are fucking lazy. You know, that's just what it is."
• Libby Emmons (05:44): "We're shrinking government by adding a government agency to shrink government."

3. Media Landscape and Decline of Mainstream Media

Key Topics:

• Layoffs and Sales: Reports on CNN's plan to lay off top talent and MSNBC being put up for sale by Comcast, indicating a decline in traditional cable news networks.

• Shift to Digital Platforms: The podcast discusses the rise of podcasts and YouTube as dominant platforms for news consumption, forecasting the eventual obsolescence of traditional TV news.

• Viewership Statistics: Comparison of viewership numbers, highlighting Timcast IRL’s superior ratings in key demographics over traditional networks like MSNBC.

Notable Quotes:

• Myron Gaines (05:31): "CNN is going to start laying off their top talent... MSNBC is going to be sold off as the corporate press is done."
• Tim Pool (56:22): "In the next 10 years, mainstream media is going to be almost gone. I predict, give it like 10 years."

4. Immigration Policies and Sanctuary Cities

Key Topics:

• Sanctuary Cities: Detailed analysis of how sanctuary cities hinder federal immigration enforcement, with insights from Tim Pool's experience in Homeland Security.

• Policies Under Biden vs. Trump: Critique of the Biden administration's handling of immigration, arguing that Trump's policies were more effective in managing border security.

• Legal and Bureaucratic Challenges: Discussion on the complexities of federal and state cooperation in immigration enforcement, including the role of detainers and expedited removal processes.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Pool (07:18): "They just don't want to do the job."
• Libby Emmons (07:52): "There's our money."
• Myron Gaines (25:46): "America's needs to be removed immediately. It's absolutely ridiculous."

5. Cultural and Political Divisions

Key Topics:

• Identity Politics: Examination of how the Democratic Party’s focus on identity politics has alienated moderates and contributed to political polarization.

• Project 2025: Discussion on Republican initiatives like Project 2025 aimed at reshaping government structures, with critiques on whether they go far enough in reducing bureaucracy.

• Media Narratives and Election Coverage: Analysis of how mainstream media portrayed the 2024 election, often labeling Trump supporters as extremist while failing to accurately represent the administration's policies.

Notable Quotes:

• Libby Emmons (12:15): "They get congressional seats by it."
• Phil Labonte (38:18): "Join us to become a member... Where you are supporting all the work that we do here at Timcast and you're joining a massive and amazing community."

6. Free Speech, Censorship, and Content Moderation

Key Topics:

• Debate on Censorship: Tim Pool and guests discuss the fine line between necessary content moderation (e.g., for illegal or abusive content) and political censorship used to silence opposing viewpoints.

• Impact on Public Discourse: Concerns about how censorship is perceived and its implications for free speech, especially on digital platforms.

Notable Quotes:

• Phil Labonte (46:34): "Censorship is about as un-American as you can get when you have the First Amendment that clearly says that you can have whatever opinion you want."
• Libby Emmons (47:40): "Everything is not that it's perfect. But it should be that if you are sharing ideas with tact..."

7. Social Dynamics and Gender Relations

Key Topics:

• Dating Market Challenges: In-depth conversation about the difficulties men face in the modern dating scene, exacerbated by dating apps and societal expectations.

• Role of Technology and AI: Speculation on how advancements like AI-driven relationships and sex robots may further impact gender relations and societal norms.

• Gender Pay Disparities and Workplace Dynamics: Discussions on perceived inequalities in the workplace and the influence of gender politics on professional environments.

Notable Quotes:

• Myron Gaines (81:07): "Women have already used robots."
• Tim Pool (92:02): "They just don't have any backbone or stamina or work ethic."

8. Closing Remarks and Future Content

Key Topics:

• Members-Only Show: Promotion of the exclusive, more in-depth "members only" segment where hosts and guests plan to delve deeper into the discussed topics, including social dynamics and political strategies.

• Community Engagement: Encouragement for listeners to join the Timcast community through subscriptions and participation in the Discord server.

Notable Quotes:

• Myron Gaines (121:58): "Join us to become a member... We'll argue with Libby a little bit more. It's fun."
• Tim Pool (122:13): "We will see you all [e-mail] in about one minute."

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Conclusion: This episode of "Timcast IRL" offers a comprehensive critique of current political and social issues from an independent viewpoint. Key takeaways include skepticism towards government inefficiency, concern over the decline of mainstream media, advocacy for stronger immigration policies, and discussions on the evolving landscape of free speech and gender relations. The hosts emphasize the importance of community involvement and transitioning towards digital platforms for future discourse.

Notable Resources Mentioned:

• Libby Emmons:
  • Websites: Post Millennial, Human Events
  • Newsletter: The Post Millennial Newsletter
  • Twitter: @LibbyEmmons
• Phil Labonte:
  • Band: All That Remains
  • Music Platforms: YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, Deezer
  • Social Media: @PhilLabonteOfficial
• Tim Pool:
  • Podcast: Fresh Fit
  • Social Media: Tim Pool on X, Myron Gaines on Twitter
  • Website: Timcast IRL

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This summary encapsulates the main discussions and insights from the episode, providing an informative overview for those who have not listened to the full podcast.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Myron Gaines]

Shop Black Friday week starting November 21st. In shocking news, Donald Trump has announced that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will be working in conjunction to run the Department of Government Efficiency. Oh, thank God. Now, not all those appointments have been the best. We're hoping to get Tulsi Gabbard in there somewhere. But actually, in a shock announcement, Trump has announced that Pete Hegseth is going to be the Defense Secretary. I'm. I'm totally cool with that. I. That's pretty cool. Just rather. Rather surprising, I guess. John Ratcliffe is going to be, I think he's what, CIA director? Is that what they're saying? Yeah, because I. Because I heard some people are saying dni. But no, he didn't.

[Libby Emmons]

He used to be dni.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. And he's going to be CIA director now. So I'm actually hearing some pretty good things. I'm optimistic. We'll see how these things go. And man, there's a. There's so much news. CNN is going to start laying off their top talent. You guys know they pay Caitlin Collins $3 million. Wow, that is. That was a bad deal. So. And then the reports are that MSNBC is going to be sold off as the corporate press is done. And, you know, I had an epiphany about it today, but we'll talk about that before we get started. My friends go to cast brew.com for the best cup of coffee you will ever have. Heavens me. We are sold out of Ian's graphene dream. Can't help it. People just think Ian makes great coffee and they keep buying it. But we do have stand your grounds back in stock as well as rise with Alberto Jr. Casper is our coffee company. So if you like the bet, if you like coffee and it's the best coffee, everyone agrees. At least that's what I've been told. Then go to Casper. Also head over to timcast.com click join us to become a member and support our work directly. As a member, you can go onto our. Was it Seven Days to Die? Is that what it's called? That the game?

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

People in the Discord server have like this Private zombie apocalypse game. Like, I don't know, they're, they're doing all sorts of really awesome stuff and they always say, Tim, you got to shout the discord out because we've got a bunch of really cool stuff happen in morning shows, after shows, video games. If you're trying to figure out how to get involved and you want to be a part of the movement, you're like, what do I do? Timcast.com Sign up because when you do, you are supporting all the work that we do here at Timcast and you're joining a massive and amazing community where you will actually also get to talk to us and our guests on our members only uncensored show Monday through Thursday at 10pm so again, smash that like button right now. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Myron Gaines.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, what's up, man? I'm happy to be here.

[Myron Gaines]

Not much. Who are you? What do you do?

[Tim Pool]

Myron Gaines, one half of the Fresh Fit podcast. We cover dating, relationships, how to make money, how to get girls, how to be attractive. Kind of navigate the dating marketplace in a very difficult world for guys nowadays. We also cover politics, cultural stuff. Bunch of stuff, man. Self improvement in general.

[Myron Gaines]

So.

[Tim Pool]

And then I also have a true crime channel called Fed Reacts where I, you know, react to a bunch of different cases. Zodiac killer documentary. Yes. I was a special age of the Homeland Security for seven years as an agent and then three years as an intern. I started my career in Laredo, Texas, then I went on to Miami. So definitely some interesting developments that have come out with, you know, home and being labeled, the borders are, which we could talk about that later on, definitely.

[Myron Gaines]

But I can, I'm, I'm loving it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, I, I think, I think he needs to be the Secretary of Homeland Security, which I could talk about that in more detail, but you know, we can get there whenever you're ready. Yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Right on, man. Should be fun. We got Libby. She's back.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm back. I'm glad to be here. I missed you guys. I'm Libby Emmons with the Post Millennial and Human Events. Happy to be on the show tonight.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary.

[Myron Gaines]

Tim, here's the big story to start off breaking. Trump announces creation of Doge.

[Libby Emmons]

It's been named into existence.

[Myron Gaines]

Donald Trump has announced Doge. I kid you not. I elon Musk and Vague Ramaswamy will be leading up the Department of Government Efficiency. I just, I, I'm, I love this. I am so happy Donald Trump won. The Republicans, they got the house. They're at 219 right now from according to decision desk and time still hasn't called it. Yeah, but who cares?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, nobody cares.

[Myron Gaines]

Nobody cares. They've played themselves and Fox hasn't called it. But let me just say, Elon Musk has memed into existence a government agency called doge. And, well, we have the statement here, actually. Libby, you wrote this. Do you want to read the statement?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, let's see. I could read the statement. I didn't really write it. Whoever wrote it for Donald Trump and I just put it into the article. I'm pleased to announce that the great Elon Musk, working in conjunction with American Patriot Vivek Ramaswamy, will lead the Department of Government Efficiency. Doge. Together, these two wonderful Americans will pave the way for my administration to dismantle government bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures, and restructure federal agencies essential to the Save America movement. This will send shockwaves through the system and anyone involved in government waste, which is a lot of people, stated Mr. Musk. It will be the Manhattan Project of our time. It goes on for a while. Vivek Ramaswamy replied to it as well, you know, so that's sort of.

[Myron Gaines]

I saw that he posted the.

[Libby Emmons]

He said, we will not go gently Elon Musk. That's what he.

[Myron Gaines]

Oh, my God. They, they totally wild. He memed there's now a government meme department. Like, it's, It's a department based on memes.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes, that's exactly what's going on.

[Myron Gaines]

At least we're having fun.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I mean, I think it is. A couple of things occur to me, first off, which is we're shrinking government by adding a government agency to shrink government. So I hope that that's effective in that process and not actually just creating another government agency. If you remember back when DHS was created under George W. Bush After 9 11, the idea was that this would bring together a bunch of agencies all at once and combine things and make things a little streamlined. And instead, what has a $60 billion budget and hundreds of thousands of employees under DHS, and it really just expanded. It's bloated. So I'm really hoping that Vivek and Elon can get in there and actually do some trimming instead of just staffing up.

[Myron Gaines]

I heard RFK Jr. Is going to fire 600 staffers. Is that true?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, he hasn't, he hasn't even been named to the FDA yet. Right. So he hasn't. He has. He doesn't have a position as yet.

[Myron Gaines]

There was rumors going on X that his intention was to, to eliminate 600 staffers.

[Libby Emmons]

I think it's definitely possible. When you, when you look at government and you think about, I don't know if you guys have ever worked in offices. I don't know if that's working in office. There's a lot of nothing that just goes on and then you sit around for a while, then you order lunch.

[Tim Pool]

I can speak to this. You know, when I was working for the government, I worked for Homeland Security Investigations under ice and there are a lot of bureaucratic positions that quite frankly, aren't really needed. I'll be honest, most of the work done by the government is done by 20%. The other 80% aren't doing anything.

[Libby Emmons]

So it's like in normal offices.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. But it's even worse because government employees have like almost no incentive to actually work hard because it's a salary that's kind of set depending on what your GS or GL level is, depending on what pay scale you are. So, you know, then like I, you know, on a Friday after 3:00pm, nobody's doing anything, everyone leaves early, etc. So, you know, I'll say it, but government employees are fucking lazy. You know, that's just what it is.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, it's because they're impossible to fire, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yes, yes.

[Libby Emmons]

And also there's no bottom line. So it's not like you're beholden to anything if you screw up in your government position. It's not like, you know, it's not like the company loses money. I mean, the company does, but you don't care.

[Phil Labonte]

No, yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

There's our money.

[Phil Labonte]

Without. I mean, this is the libertarian argument to everything. But like, if you don't have a market, which the government doesn't actually particip in the market, if you don't have a market to give you feedback, like people think that things that, like people think that markets are inherently bad or they're just for people to make money. Like prices are information. Like if you have something that isn't selling, that's feedback from the market, without prices, without actual competition, without feedback from the market, you don't know if you're actually successful or not. And with the government, they just print the money when they want to do something, something so they can, or they.

[Libby Emmons]

Take more of Ours.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I don't want, I don't, I don't want to get into that argument. That argument. It's. The thing is they, if they want to do something, they just print it. Right. Taxes and inflation are used to.

[Myron Gaines]

Or they just take a debt. They'll just go to a company and be like, do it and we'll owe you the money. Trust us. Yeah, and they got to raise the debt ceiling.

[Phil Labonte]

But, but the, but the point being, like, there is no competition, so they don't care what it costs you. You hear stories about, I don't know if they're, if these are current, but you've heard, you hear stories about like, you know, $10,000 hammers. Because if you don't make your, if you don't use all of your budget this year, they will cut your budget so you have to spend all that education.

[Libby Emmons]

They do that too.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

I can speak to the law enforcement side. Like there's only a small minority of the agents that do most of the work. Right. Like they'll go ahead and do the big arrest, but do the big roundups, etc. Like the case agent is the guy that runs the case, but. And then he has people helping them. But very few offices have like go getter agents. Most guys are in there from, you know, 10 to 3pm and they don't do anything. They don't do surveillance. They barely write reports. They're not doing crap. So I remember, like, I'd be the guy that'd be up late at night, hey, I need some guys to help me with surveillance. Oh, bro, do you have to work now? I'd have to get the task force officers out because they get overtime and that gets funded by the federal government. So they would love to do it. So I would always take the TFO's out, but I would never go out with actual agents because they never want to work.

[Libby Emmons]

They just didn't want to do the job.

[Tim Pool]

They don't, man. They don't. Especially after a couple of years, they got a family. They don't want to do shit.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And so you'd call them and be like, it's time to do work. And they'd be like, they'd get pissed.

[Tim Pool]

At me all the time when I want to do surveillance. Because I wasn't drug group when I would do late night surveillance. Especially on the southwest border where illegal aliens and drugs are coming in like every day. You know, you're watching a house, you need people to help you out. Hey, I need a couple units to Help me out with this. They're like, bro, why do you got to do this, man? Stop working so hard. Because I was like 24 when I got there. So yeah, the idea that you were.

[Phil Labonte]

Told stop working so hard in a long time in a law enforcement, I mean it's like, look man, if you're in the Department of Education or if you're in like Health and Human Services or if you're in, I mean even the Department of Energy sands, anything that's not the nuclear stuff, I could forgive someone saying not, you know, stop working so hard. But you're talking about legitimate law enforcement. That means.

[Tim Pool]

And it gets even better.

[Phil Labonte]

Lives are on the line.

[Tim Pool]

It gets even better. This is the cream of the crop, right? To be a special agent or 1811, they hire less than like 2 to 3% of their qualified applicants. Right. It's a GS13 position. Right. Which is basically like not managerial, but you kind of run your own schedule, take home car, all that. And they're still being lazy. So this isn't even accounting for the majority of government employees that don't have that type of authority. And they're even worse. So if they're being lazy like this at the top level, you can only imagine at the lower ones, it's unreal.

[Myron Gaines]

The problem with the, with government agencies is that for one, it's extremely hard to fire people.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, very difficult.

[Myron Gaines]

They hire people and then you can't fire them. So it's, it's a one way ticket into the machine and there's just no way to dismantle it or if you do fire them.

[Tim Pool]

This happens a lot of the times too. Let's say you get fired and you like sue. What will happen is they'll just, they don't want to deal with it. They'll hire you back, they'll give you your back pay and then just kind of put you like at a desk job where they don't got to deal with you and then they just let you kind of, you know, do your 20 and get out.

[Myron Gaines]

You know what, what people I think need to consider about this bureaucracy stuff is that a lot of it is fake economics. It's, it's manufactured economic stimulation. Yeah, they don't want to get rid of a lot of these jobs because they want to take your money and give it to someone so they have busy work. This is a staple of socialists and communist countries. So like when I went to Venezuela, they make fake jobs for the purpose of someone having a job. Then they tax you and use that to Pay the person and make you pay it. We have this problem in the United States. That's why I'm excited for a doge. So they can just nuke it. Just got it. Just got to do it.

[Libby Emmons]

Cut it, Just cut it.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, well, this is, this is true for like health care. Right. So everybody agrees, whether you're on the right or the left. Healthcare, healthcare system is wacky and it makes no sense. The problem is every time someone goes to members of Congress and like, how do we fix it? They go, it's 20% of our economy. Like, you need that woman in the bureaucratic position shuffling papers back and forth because it facilitates the exchange of value between people. That's it. It's busy work.

[Libby Emmons]

It is busy work. And the other thing too that is interesting is you had Kamala Harris running on labor, you know, and saying she was going to bring labor together. There's a huge difference between public sector unions and private unions, because private unions work for companies that have bottom lines. And so if you're a private sector union worker and you ask for a raise, you know, and your union asks for a raise, you're going to look at the bottom line of that company and you're going to say, this is the value we provide, this is the increase in the, you know, profit that you get. Let's negotiate here. But with government unions, all they have to do is say, we want to raise. And they're negotiating against nothing. They just, as Phil was saying, you print more money, you tax more, you don't care where the money comes from, you just spend it. So a public unions, their entire job is to just continue bloating the government.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then it used to be, for a lot of these positions, it used to be something called a competitive 13 or a journeyman, which would get you into the six figure range for most 1811 positions. I know DEA had it, US Custom Service used to have it before the merger with dhs, but they did away with it. And a lot of these agencies, so you basically make, you know, you get to GS13, you're making 100 to 150,000 depending on what AOR you are. And there's no reason to like go harder because you're like, oh, I make my money, I'm going to get it no matter what. And then especially with law enforcement, with the 1811s, they get something called leap Law Enforcement availability pay, which is basically 25% put, plus their base salary. And that comes no matter what and no matter how many hours they work. So they're less incentivized to go out there because it's not based hourly or overtime or anything like that.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

[Myron Gaines]

We do have more appointment news, but I got to get to this second because this story I actually thought was kind of bigger, but the news broke about, you know, Elon from Newsweek. Kamala Harris is fundraising towards a recount. I actually was kind of surprised when I mentioned this. Libby didn't believe it.

[Libby Emmons]

I didn't believe it because, you know, what is she, an election denier? You know, you know what's going on.

[Myron Gaines]

It's weird because they don't. The speculation is that's going to go towards the House recounts or Senate recounts, something like this. Bob Casey is refusing to give up Pennsylvania despite the fact that he lost.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. And he even went on a tour of the. He even was, like, hanging out today. Right.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. And Schumer was trying to block McCormick from coming in for orientation. So the Democrats are not giving up. And I find it fascinating because when Republicans are like, hey, we're going to challenge this. The media just took a dump all over the floor and screamed, election denier for 27 years.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Myron Gaines]

Now you got Kamala fundraising for a recount. I don't care what the reason is. There are. There are stupid people who. She conceded.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

She said, I'm out later and they're going to. She's sending out emails whether, like, her recount fund needs your money and they're going to give it to her.

[Phil Labonte]

Of course.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. Her entire schedule today was lunch with Joe Biden. And speaking of lazy. You were talking about lazy and bloat and government. Kamala Harris hasn't done anything for four years.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

She got the gig from 33 tiebreaking.

[Myron Gaines]

Votes in the Senate.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, that's right.

[Myron Gaines]

I mean, that. That. That shoveled the Democratic Jetta down our throat.

[Libby Emmons]

It sure did. Yeah. But that was, you know, that's only 33 times that she went to the Senate. I bet she wasn't even there any of the other times. And when Biden appointed her border czar in March 2021. Right. She. She what? She talked to the president of Guatemala twice, said that the root cause of immigration was violence against LGBTQ people in the northern true triangle countries. And then by June, her office was saying, that's not our job, you guys. We're totally not even doing that anymore.

[Tim Pool]

It's. It's incredible to me that. And this is the issue, too, where you can't have these state officials coming in and running Immigration, because immigration is a federal matter and Title 8, which is the immigration under the INA, it's a very nebulous situation. And unless you work in immigration and you've done that type of law enforcement before, you're really not going to understand it. So state officials have no concept. She, you know, she said a million times in her interviews, oh, I was the only prosecutor to prosecute transnational crime. Dude, you're in San Francisco, like you weren't dealing with anything really going on at the border. Like, come on, by the time you're dealing with it, you're like five or seven levels removed. Is that even the organization?

[Myron Gaines]

I've heard that no one's even confirmed she, she tried any cases.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, bro. I mean if you look at it.

[Libby Emmons]

It was, it like I, I saw a breakdown and it was probably maybe 10.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, 10. That's a, that's a big number.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then anything, to be honest, anything that's like actually sexy like that, it's going to go to the feds. It's not going to go to the state, man. Like the feds are going to take crime. Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

They're going to some local prosecutor.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. If the local prosecutor takes it, you know it weak case like the YSL case.

[Myron Gaines]

Everybody knows how this goes. A local guy comes in and sees a murder and then the feds come in and go, out of my way. This is my scene now. It's like, hey, you can't throw me out of here. And the feds take over.

[Libby Emmons]

It's like on Matlock.

[Myron Gaines]

Exactly.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

That's actually not how it really goes.

[Myron Gaines]

Because don't you lie to us.

[Tim Pool]

You know what you're doing.

[Myron Gaines]

But how many times have you walked into like a local cop and said, God, here's my crime scene.

[Tim Pool]

You know what? It's so that's what they put in the movies. But that's actually like not true because like if you do that, if you do that, that will mess you up. Because this is the thing, like the state and locals are like the most vital resource you have as a fed because the state and locals have information and resources. A lot of times that you don't where you can put more boots on the ground and help you out, especially if you're running like a large scale investigation. I always prefer to work with the state and locals over other feds because the state and locals will just go harder because they'll go out there surveillance with you at 2 in the morning because they get overtime versus the feds, won't so your state and local partners are super important. And the other beautiful thing is that they have state authority and if they're a task force officer, they also have federal authority. So let's say you need a traffic stop done. He can call one of the local guys, traffic stop the guy, have him identified, you can get him on some type of state infraction. Right. And meanwhile you're running the federal investigation. They don't even know about it because they're getting T stopped or something else. Or you can get them arrested on a state charge, use that as leverage to build an informant.

[Libby Emmons]

So wait, ask you a question?

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Libby Emmons]

So you had Tom Holman was appointed to deal with the border and set up ice. And he was talking on Charlie Kirk today. And it was actually the best interview I've seen because he actually got a chance to like lay everything out. But he was talking about what happens in sanctuary cities in the local and state law enforcement won't help. And he said that he would have to double up agents. How much do you think. How much do you think that the lack of local assistance to ICE would be a hindrance?

[Tim Pool]

I can talk about this in detail. Okay. So I actually worked under Homan when I was an agent with Homeland. And the way sanctuary cities work, and there's a bunch of them in the United States, we can use San Francisco, Austin, New York City, etc, your typical blue cities. The way it works is this. Let's say someone gets arrested for a dui, they suspect that he's an illegal alien, whatever it may be. But state authorities don't have immigration authority, so they can't really deter what's called determine alienage. So what ends up happening is they'll arrest them and ICE in that jurisdiction, typically they'll get a manifest of everyone that's arrested if they see someone they they think is an illegal alien. Right. Because they'll run the immigration checks, etc, they'll put something called the detainer on that individual. And then the state and locals are supposed to hold him for ICE to come. So when he gets out on bond or whatever, immigration is there ready to take, lock them up.

[Libby Emmons]

When we've seen all these reports about like, you know, some horrible person raped some child in Massachusetts and it'll say that they were held on a detainer, but then they wouldn't turn them over to ice.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, because what will happen is when, when it's time to release the guy, they won't notify ice. They'll just let him go because they're like, we're not gonna. We're not. We're a sanctuary city. We don't want to deal with this. We're not going to help you guys. So they won't hold the body, and then the guy will get released. And that's how you end up with a lot of these problems. So. And I mean, hell, it's. It's gotten so bad. I'll never forget this vividly. We had a arrest warrant for a guy in Austin, Texas. This is maybe 10 years ago, and it was for human smuggling, which is a felony. 8 USC3024. Anybody can look it up. It's a federal felony, but it's under the ina. So we get this arrest warrant for this guy. Want to go pick him up. Because he was a coordinator moving illegal aliens into the United States through Laredo, Texas, into Austin, which was one of the.

[Libby Emmons]

He was like a drug dealer of people.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. Exactly. Which illegal aliens, which I can explain this to. All legal lands that come into the United States are typically utilizing some type of human smuggling organization to get in. It's a very.

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[Tim Pool]

Very refined.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Libby Emmons]

Interesting.

[Tim Pool]

That's how bad it is.

[Libby Emmons]

So that is going to be a hindrance to him.

[Tim Pool]

It's very bad. Anytime you see one of these illegal aliens getting out of a local jail.

[Libby Emmons]

Mm.

[Tim Pool]

Nine out of ten times, a detainer wasn't honored. That was placed by ice.

[Myron Gaines]

There was. There was one story I think was in Ohio that the federal government brought in illegal immigrants and said, hey, can you hold these. These guys for us real quick, just for overnight, because we need somewhere for them to stay. And the local sheriffs, they're like, yeah, for sure. Bring them in. And then the feds ran off.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And, like, the next day the sheriff woke up and they're like, what do we do? Like, we got all these illegal. And they were like, let them go. So they just let them go into these small towns. Yeah, that's what's been going on under the Biden administration.

[Libby Emmons]

Ridiculous.

[Tim Pool]

Well, and the other thing, too, I find it interesting because when Kamala would do her interviews or her debates or whatever, and she would always talk about, oh, I was going to pass this immigration bill, I was going to hire this many more border patrol agents. And, you know, Trump actually stopped the bill from passing because he needed a problem in campaign on blah, blah, blah, blah. I could tell you this irrefutably When I was in Laredo, Texas, we were. There was way. Trump was way better and more efficient at getting rid of legal aliens coming into the United States. By far, not even a comparison. And the reason why is because when these illegal aliens would come into the United States, and this is why I'm so big on home, it needs to be the Secretary of Homeland Security, not just the borders are because he needs to oversee all the immigration agencies. When aliens would come in, they would get something called an expedited removal. And an expedited removal, what it is, is that person is deported back to Mexico within two weeks of them coming in. Why is this important? This is important because he doesn't burden up the immigration system that we have, because in the immigration world, we have immigration judges, et cetera. So they come in, they basically, they process them, fingerprint them, et cetera, put them into aphis, all this other stuff in the database, assign an alien number, and then they deport them within two weeks versus what they're doing now is. And I think you spoke with one of my buddies, Zach Apothecary from Border Patrol, he talked about this as well when I had him on, is what they're doing now. A lot of these aliens are coming in. They're getting something called a notice to appear released on owner recognizance ror. So not only are they allowed to stay, they're sent to where they were supposed. Where they wanted to go. They're given paperwork, and then they're supposed to show up with a. To see an immigration judge. But this might not happen for years because immigration backed up. Yeah, so backed up. So. But under Trump, we didn't have that crap. We were sending everybody back. And then on top of that, to get better, if you got caught more than once, you get hit with something, a felony called 8 USC 3026 illegal reentry. So. And we were prosecuting these guys, border patrols. Prosecuting them. HSI was prosecuting them. It was so many people that were prosecuting for that that even Border Patrol took some of those cases for felony prosecution. So we were way harder on the border under the Trump administration than under the Biden Harris administration. It's. And anyone that says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Myron Gaines]

You can just see the numbers.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, the graph is just like it goes red, blue. It's like, it's like blue, red, and then blue. And it skyrockets under Joe Biden.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And that's what we know.

[Libby Emmons]

That's the magic. That's the blessed graph. Right, the blessed chart.

[Tim Pool]

And here's the crazy part. Like they might not be counting certain like deportations because a lot of aliens come in, get caught, and they'll just voluntarily leave. Or some. Or the expedited removal I mentioned. I don't know how they're compiling their statistics if they're compiling every single deportation that comes in and how they're processing it. Because when illegal alien comes into United States and law enforcement encounters them, there's multiple ways to process that alien and then remove that alien.

[Libby Emmons]

Interesting.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, but what Biden doesn't do it. They just, they, they basically dismissed all the cases without adjudicating them. Said, I guess you live here now.

[Tim Pool]

Well, yeah, because they basically let him in. Right. That's why they had that CBP1 app.

[Myron Gaines]

It's like, it's like pseudo amnesty where they said, oh, you're here. Well you better go to court. Then a month later they're like, don't worry about court. So there's no official status. But you're just here.

[Libby Emmons]

But they have no legal status.

[Tim Pool]

Not even a month. It could be years, Tim. Because their immigration system is so backlog.

[Myron Gaines]

No, what I'm saying is when they came in and they gave them, you better go to court. A month later, they, they would call in and they'd be like, no, no, we canceled your court appearance. Bye. Click. And so they were in limbo. They have no official status, but they also have no enforcement action against them. So they just stay here and work.

[Tim Pool]

That happens sometimes.

[Myron Gaines]

They were doing that to hundreds of thousands. Yeah, that was Biden's pseudo amnesty that he granted. Where basically the Biden admin dumped like 300 cases saying, we're not going to even bother with these creating. Dude, I got to tell you, the Democrats were creating a surf class.

[Libby Emmons]

They sure were. On purpose.

[Myron Gaines]

People who can't vote, people who struggle to get access to the system, but who are also not citizens. And they were going to have them do low skill labor. So you have a working class that can't vote and affect your system.

[Libby Emmons]

And they were even saying this.

[Myron Gaines]

They get congressional seats by it.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Myron Gaines]

So what the Democrats have then is a congressional seat will be created with 600000American citizens and then 175,000 illegal immigrants. That gives the Democrat a position where that 175k cannot vote. So they get free political power.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

That's insane.

[Tim Pool]

No, it's ridiculous. America's needs to be removed immediately. It's absolutely ridiculous. Because. Because the thing is with the Secretary of Homeland Security. They are the ultimate immigration official because they are over all the law enforcement agencies and all the agencies that oversee immigration into the country. Right outside of non immigrant visas, which is secret State Department, that's a whole other thing. But this has been a huge failure for from a border security standpoint and America's needs to be removed. You need to put people in that are more aggressive.

[Libby Emmons]

There was a Texas judge recently who said that a plan that the Biden Harris administration put into place to essentially grant legal status to the spouses and stepchildren who are illegal, but they're connected to Americans, they wiped that out and said, you can't just automatically give these people status just because they are here. And I thought that was kind of great.

[Myron Gaines]

I love this, this, this headline from the Daily Beast, though we're not going to read the story because it's locked. But Trump borders are to undocumented immigrants. We are coming for you.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, there's literally a million. But like, yeah, the united the American here illegally. What do you what the American people, It's something like 70%, 75% of the American people have said we believe that or we want to see deportations.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Not like, oh, we just want to, you know, control the border straight up. We're comfortable with the things that are going to happen when you start deporting people. Well, if 70% of the American, American people believe that, it doesn't matter how uncomfortable the talking heads on the Internet or the talking heads on TV are with it. That's what the American people want. That's part of why Donald Trump was elected.

[Tim Pool]

And I'll say this too. So immigration, it's kind of a catch 22, right. If you enforce it, people look at you as a family wrecker, evil, et cetera. But if you don't do it, obviously you look at you're not doing your job. And it's kind of like a political hot potato. And I could say this because I've worked under both Obama, Trump and Biden, three different presidents. And what I will tell you is when there's a Democrat in office, ICE enforcement mover operations, who is responsible for the domestic location apprehension of illegal aliens that are in the country, they are significantly neutered when there's a Democrat in office. Everyone knows this, right, that's on the job, that they're not going to go out and pick up aliens like they normally do unless it's like a violent criminal alien. They're typically not going to do their job. Like they're supposed to, they're just hanging around when Democrats in. So. But when Trump came in, everyone was getting deported, they were going out, they were doing raids. ICE was actually doing their job on the ERO side. So it's a very, it's a, it's a, it's an agency that's contingent upon who's in office.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. There was one of the big stories that we had seen during the Trump administration was that there are a bunch of meat processing plants they raided, they, they arrested, I think 800 individuals. And then I, this is what I love to hate about the corporate press. The corporate press shows up to a job fair after the fact and they see Americans, white Americans, and were aghast. There was like a white guy walking up at the job fair and they were like, sir, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm here for a job. And they were like, why would you want to work this low skilled job? These are jobs Americans hate. And he goes, it pays more than the gas station. Like, these are jobs Americans wanted.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And they were giving them to non citizens.

[Libby Emmons]

I find that to be really shocking as well. And this is something you repeatedly hear from Democrats, is that Americans don't want to take these jobs. I have not met an American who's like, oh, there's a job. Or I could suck money off the government. I think I'll just suck money off the government. Like, that's not an American ethos. It's not what any of us are raised to really think. You know, we're raised to say like, we want to take care of ourselves. We want to provide for our families. We don't want to be a burden to the government. And we certainly don't want the government to be that closely involved in our lives. And these are jobs that Americans are perfectly happy to take. Chuck Schumer thinks that Americans don't want jobs. And I think that's totally bogus. And I'm really stoked to see, you know, Trump call that out repeatedly. It's, it's to the point where he showed up and, you know, worked the friar.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Myron Gaines]

Oh, that was great. And I loved Bill Burr's bit on snl. He was getting ragged on by a lot of people. But no, he was said when Donald Trump stood behind that counter is when he was like, you could tell he was truly happy. He was like, wow, this is where they do the French fries. I agree. Like, Trump was so excited to be that. That's not a bad thing. That's that was great. Trump was really excited to make the french fries and he was like, Trump put extra fries and he's like, someone's going to be really happy when. Yes, that's all true. Trump was super excited to give people food. Yeah, I thought that was amazing.

[Tim Pool]

And I do want to say, because you mentioned works on enforcement, which you mentioned when they raided the thing, that's something called work side enforcement. HSI does those a lot of the times.

[Myron Gaines]

It happened just here like a week ago, a few days ago.

[Tim Pool]

So works out enforcement under Tim Cast, under Democrats. Yeah. Work side enforcement under Democrats almost always is much harder to pull off because the thing is is that you're not going to do a worksite enforcement case and go after the company and the people that employ the illegal aliens unless it's like egregious. Whenever you have Democrats in, right, we're talking about hundreds of illegal aliens, deplorable work conditions, etc. But under Trump or whatever, hey, look, he's got this many guys employed. This is a problem, et cetera. Especially in this area, it was way easier to get work side enforcement cases done.

[Myron Gaines]

We so some of the people who work here under Trump saying that there's a bunch of IHOPs in the area and they all got raided and people are getting taken out and stuff like putting trucks or putting cars. Let's jump to this story. We got big news. This was rather shocking from the post. Millennial Trump names Pete Hegseth to lead Department of Defense. Quote, I am honored to announce that I have nominated Pete Hegseth to serve in my cabinet as a Secretary of Defense. I was actually shocked.

[Libby Emmons]

I am shocked as well.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm excited. He's a young guy and he's a.

[Libby Emmons]

Vet, which is cool.

[Myron Gaines]

He's a vet. He's got real experience. Trump was just saying take Liz Cheney and put her on the battlefield and see how quickly she regrets voting for these wars. So I'm excited to see this and a lot of people are really excited. I want to give a shout out to this tweet here. This is great. This is from Bochi Red state who said, I mean sure, Pete Hegseth is an Ivy Leaguer with multiple tours who spent over 20 years in the military when military service before becoming a veterans advocate. But he didn't work for Raytheon and hired drag queens for recruitment. So is he really qualified?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, I guess not.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm seeing like, you know, shout out to our friends the Krasenstein's, our go to liberals, they're like, headset is not smart enough to defend this nation. I can't believe it.

[Phil Labonte]

There's already. I saw, I don't, I didn't save it, but I saw a tweet by Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas, and I hear rumors or whatever that this, that Pete Hegseth will probably face resistance in the Senate.

[Libby Emmons]

That's going to get to the Senate. Like, is he even going to get to the Senate? Like, Trump has been very pushing about this recess appointment.

[Phil Labonte]

I would love to see each of.

[Libby Emmons]

The three guys who are on the secret ballot for a Senate majority leader tomorrow have said, oh, sure, we'll do recess appointments, no problemo.

[Phil Labonte]

I would love to see how does that work.

[Libby Emmons]

Recess appointments is. So if so, the Senate will say, we're going to take a break for five to seven days. And the president has the right to appoint whoever he wants while the Senate is on a break. And then that person doesn't have to go through confirmation hearings.

[Myron Gaines]

And then also my understanding is if they don't appoint him, he can appoint an acting Secretary of defense.

[Libby Emmons]

That's right.

[Myron Gaines]

So he can just basically. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

That's why during his first administration, you had, you know, acting like Rick Grinnell was the acting. Whatever he was, whatever his job was, he had a lot of people who were acting such and such instead of actually having gone through the confirmation process because he decided he didn't want to have to push everything through the. You know what it is? It's not instant gratification enough for Trump. He wants his people.

[Phil Labonte]

I would love to see the, I would love to see Reese's appointments because, just because to get the results that Trump is looking to get. He's got 18 months. He's got to have everything ready to go on January 20th. He's got to have as much in place as possible. There's a lot of people that are complaining about the people that have been, you know, floated for appointments there. A lot of complaints about Marco Rubio. There's complaints about Kristi Noem and stuff. And I think I understand why they're complaining. I don't. That doesn't mean that I necessarily agree, but I understand why they're complaining. But one of the problems that Trump ran into in his first term was he was putting in people that weren't experienced, people that didn't have experience in government, people that didn't know how the.

[Tim Pool]

Government didn't like him either, or snakes as well.

[Phil Labonte]

So I think that the people that he's got in that he's talking about putting in place. I mean, I'm not saying that I can predict the future, but they're, they're likely to be more loyal, to be more loyal and more like, they're more likely to follow through with what Trump wants. He's got a very clear, very conservative, very Republican narrative plan. He wants to shrink the government. He wants to make serious cuts. This is what Republicans run on all the time. These people will face significant problems in their own elections if they don't follow through when they had the chance to help Trump. And I think that most of the people that are going to be putting appointed, I think that they're aware that the American people, they all saw the elections, they saw that everything moved right, even though it wasn't a massive swing. The fact that everything moved right, the fact that they picked up the House when they didn't think they were going to pick up the House, they picked up the Senate. Clearly, Trump won. They see the. I believe they will see the writing on the wall and will say, we need to do what we were elected to do what the President was elected.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's also important to note this is exactly why Project 2025 was a thing, was because when he first came in, Right. The guy lived in New York. He didn't necessarily. He wasn't a politician that lived in D.C. so he didn't have all these contacts. We had to kind of put a lot of these establishment people into positions that he didn't necessarily always pick. Right. Because he had a lot of help with that. So. And then a lot of these people, you know, turned out being snakes. I mean, like Mike Pence, for example. So I think, you know, as much as people talk smack about Project 2025, which I actually like it, it was a v. Very valid response to issues.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Project 2025 didn't go far enough.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I, I mean, it could have been. They could have been cooler. Well, no, right.

[Myron Gaines]

We had. Paul Dan's On. On IRL, I think IRL and Culture War and Project 2025, certainly it's, it's a hodgepodge of varying ideas. So I'm half kidding when I say doesn't go far enough, but I think their issues on, like government bureaucracy was like defunding instead of dissolving.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And I'm sitting here being like, well, that doesn't go far enough. You need to fire these people, not just take budgets away. Like.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And I think, I don't think they're correct me, I'm wrong. Was Project 2025 for abolishing the DOA. I'm sorry, the DOE. Yes, they were for that. Okay, all right, well, then we're cool.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we're cool. And, you know, it's interesting.

[Myron Gaines]

Education, not energy.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

And I love how, like, in every single debate and every interview, all Kamala would say is, oh, yeah, Trump is trying to bring in Project 2025 when he disavowed it like 10 times. So it's like, you know, I think Project 25, number one valid and was a good response to the issues that he ran into with, you know, people not standing by him, people, you know, betraying him, etc, but the Democrats literally ran on saying that this is a far right plan that's going to make him become a dictator, et cetera, when he disavowed it multiple times. But, you know, when you actually look into why it was implemented, it makes sense.

[Phil Labonte]

Everything the left said about Donald Trump was ridiculous and bullshit.

[Tim Pool]

Lies, dude. All eyes.

[Phil Labonte]

They didn't. They. They could have attacked him legitimately. They could have had criticized policies that he legitimately was legitimately was talking about. They could have done. They could have attacked him from a position of substance, and they chose not to.

[Myron Gaines]

If they had approached this from a Joe Rogan perspective, they would have maintained the moderates, but they decided to side with the woke left instead.

[Tim Pool]

Of course.

[Myron Gaines]

And, you know, Nate. Nate Silver, I think it was Nate Silver had this postmortem and he said when he was posting information on the elections, he got to basically do this experiment between his more conservative leaning audience and his left leaning audience and see how they responded to the news. Not necessarily his audience, but how the general population was responding. People who followed him, he said when he would put out stuff that somewhat agreed with Republicans, they're excited, they're super happy. If you put out something that only somewhat agrees with Democrats, they lose their mind. And they'd attack you over it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So the democrats are like 100% or nothing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And he said that's why Trump won, because Trump said, I'll take whatever I can get. What happens? Trump goes to Libertarian convention. He got booed by libertarians and he got cheered at the same time, and he got laughs. But these, these people at Libertarian Convention were like, we don't like Trump. Trump's not our guy. And then Trump came out and said, I'm gonna pardon Russ Ulbricht. And then they all started cheering. He said, I'll give you something. I'll give you anything.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And he ended up actually getting the Libertarians cuz they nominated Chase Oliver, who many people thought was too far left on social issues. And then you end up with Dave Smith, of all people. Dave Smith saying he voted for Donald Trump.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Myron Gaines]

Sitting down with Joe Rogan. When you get Joe Rogan was a Bernie supporter and you get Dave Smith, anti war, anti Trump, libertarian, both agreeing. Well, he's our best bet. You have unified the country.

[Libby Emmons]

The other thing too is you had the, you had the left being like, why don't we have a Joe Rogan? And it's like, because you canceled Joe Rogan, that's why you don't have Joe Rogan.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

This is the thing that bothers me too, is I, I. So I gave, I donated the max to Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard in the 2019 primaries.

[Libby Emmons]

I was sitting here, I liked Yang and Tulsi too.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, Yang was a disappointment. Tulsi's, Tulsi's fantastic. But Tulsi had to join the Republicans. So they're like, why can't we have a. The article from the Wired was, why can't we have a Ben Shapiro, a Steven Crowder, or so help us, a Tim Pool? And I'm like, you could have, you did. And then you insulted me. You beat the crap out of me. Joe Rogan kept his mouth shut and you still insulted him. Look, I came out right away in 2020 and said, I want Tulsi Gabbard. She's the candidate. Andrew Yang is also great. These are the candidates that I want. When they said no to that, I said, okay, well Trump it is. I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. And they said, you're far right, screw you. And I said, I get it, I'm supporting Donald Trump. You don't like me. But Joe Rogan didn't do that. Joe Rogan the whole time said, I don't know, I don't wanna help Trump, I don't wanna be involved. And they still called him a Nazi. They still called him far right.

[Libby Emmons]

They still tried to take his livelihood away.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the problem is also is that the left never gets satisfied because they keep going left. Right? So someone going first. Yeah, so like someone that's like a leftist now in five years is going to be considered far right because they're continuously shifting that window into more and more deranged lunacy. So that's the issue with them. And yeah, Cancel Culture is their main tool on the left. That's what they do. Like with Rogan. All these guys that they've tried Someone chatted.

[Myron Gaines]

Tim didn't tell us about the Max donation back then. Absolutely not true. I was, I was talking about how Tulsi's mom called me thanking for, for the donation. I wanted the Democratic Party to pull back out of this tailspin, stop embracing racial segregation and other weird crackpot policies. And I said, why are they doing this? They're supposed to be like the funny, edgy, you know, comedians like Jon Stewart calling out the stodgy Republicans. What's happening? Nope. The Republicans said, you know what, we were wrong about that. Let's all have fun and make jokes together. And I said, I'm down. What about you Democrats? And Democrats said, you're a Nazi. Get in my room. And I said, okay.

[Libby Emmons]

But you know, that's the thing, right? And that's what Phil was talking about is the Democrats in this election consistently lied about Trump, about who he is, about what he said, about what he stands for, misquoted him, did everything they possibly could to frame him a certain way. But after 2020, after the past four years, after Covid, I think the American people were just like, no, I'm not going to just believe you because you say things anymore. I'm going to do the work for myself. I'm going to understand it for myself. And so no one believed them when he said all of these things. It was like, you know, it was it Peter crying wolf. That's, that's really what it seemed like.

[Myron Gaines]

What do you guys think about John Radcliffe? So the other news in the Post Millennial is that Trump has tapped former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe to lead the CIA. And I was, I was actually much more excited for Cash Patel.

[Tim Pool]

I agree with you on Cash Patel. I think you need to put him either with, with the CIA or maybe the head of the FBI. That'd be actually kind of funny, I hope. And all the wars he had with the FBI. But, but yeah, I mean, you need to put, I saw up, he, he wants to implement this like a 24 hour declassification room, which I think or agency or component.

[Libby Emmons]

What is that?

[Tim Pool]

So basically what it would be is like it's documents continuously getting declassified. And I could say this is a guy that, you know, used to deal with classified documents. They classify stuff all the time for no reason, man. I'll be honest with you guys. Like, it's a lot of the times it's like, why is this classified? I'll never get those piece of information. One time I gave to the FBI on a target and then I remember I was, like, on the phone with the guy and I said, hey, can you. What was it about that guy? Blah, blah. He's like, oh, yeah, that's classified. I was like, dude, I gave it to you. What the. How are you gonna tell me? Like, what the. Like, what the hell? But, like, the FBI is notorious for that. Like, they'll get information and they'll classify it just because they don't want to share. So there's a huge problem with the classification of documents and how that's all handled. You know, we're. We still haven't got the JFK documents. We still don't have all the 911 documents, so. Well, we know why that's all the conversation, but, yeah, there needs to be way more accountability and transparency when it comes to that.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, something Tucker Carlson was saying, too, is that there's just too many classified documents. There's too many things that don't need to be classified.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah, it does. Yeah, absolutely. And like. Like the fact that, like, the JFK documents aren't declassified after all these years, pretty much everyone is dead from that era. Like, declassify him.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. The fact that everything is classified is just because the government doesn't want to answer questions to the American.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, that's a big reason.

[Phil Labonte]

Because FOIA requests exist, because you can request information. The only thing the government can do to keep the American people in the dark, to classify it. So they just classify everything.

[Myron Gaines]

Let's jump.

[Phil Labonte]

And that should change.

[Myron Gaines]

Let's jump to this next story. It's going to make everybody happy. From the Daily Mail, CNN will axe top stars in layoffs that'll see hundreds fired as ratings continue to tank. But waits before we dive into that Comcast to put MSNBC and Oprah founded Oxygen Networks up for sale in cable tv. It is the end, my friends. Now, I just want to add right away, Caitlin Collins was getting $3 million, man. She got a great agent because she does not have what it. You know, hey, look, that is wild.

[Libby Emmons]

That's a lot.

[Myron Gaines]

$3 million.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. To be that. Not good at anything, you know, it's.

[Tim Pool]

It's a testament to. The mainstream media is dying, man. I mean, and, you know, after the election results, you know, whether it's Whoopi Goldberg on the View or people on the CNN pundits, you know, talking crap, oh, this stuff needs to be moderated more. We have these, you know, rogue podcasters that are over here platforming people, and nothing is being moderated whatever. AKA we want more censorship. And the American People have finally spoken up and they're tired of it. They're tired of the censorship. They're tired of the lies from the mainstream media. And this election literally proved that with the landslide victory.

[Phil Labonte]

Censorship is about as un American as you can get when you have the First Amendment that clearly says that you can have whatever opinion you want. The government has no right to an opinion. That's exactly the first one is saying that the government doesn't have a right to an opinion.

[Myron Gaines]

Let me help arm our viewers with knowledge. With knowledge. Remember that guy? So censorship is a good thing. Political censorship is a bad thing. Censorship is in general. I would never call myself anti censorship when people post images of child abuse on the Internet. Okay, yeah, we want, we want moderators to censor that information. Of course, our information. But those images and those things. When people are calling for or directing or instructing on how to do horrible things and commit crimes, we want moderators to come in and censor. Like, we have a gut reaction to the word censor because it's used almost exclusively politically against the, against the enemies of the establishment. So I'm just trying. I'm not trying to nitpick or say Phil's wrong. I'm just trying to make sure that the people who are watching at home might go to a friend and be like, yeah, censorship is bad, and then go, oh, yeah, what about this? So I want to make sure that they just understand the nuances.

[Phil Labonte]

I've articulated this before on the show when I say censorship and when I'm talking about free speech, you don't have the right to just be vulgar or be offensive to on platforms or whatever. You don't have the right to share, you know, pictures of assault or videos of assault, children, etc. The point is you can exchange any idea that you want if you're respectful about it and if you have tact, there's no idea that you are going to get. Get booted off of something for, for, for sharing. There will be people that won't like it, but. And that's what it should be, is what I'm saying that. Not that they're not that any. Everything's not that it's perfect. But it should be that. If you are, if you are sharing ideas with tact and not, not just throwing bombs out there just to get people worked up, there should be no, no idea. You can't talk.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm okay with trolling. I'm totally okay if you're. If your whole goal is to go on the Internet and Just row people up. That's fine. Fine. It's when you are committing crimes or posting abuse and things like that. But back to old CNN firing everybody. Guys, did you know that CNN's viewership is lower than ours?

[Libby Emmons]

That is so crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

Now, hold on. In the, in the 70 year old plus, they do. They crush us. You know What?

[Tim Pool]

I got 70 plus the seniors.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. I'm not kidding. And I'm not trying to disparage seniors.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

In the, in the 70 plus age demographic, which, you know, has its market. They annihilate Tim Cass. I mean, they're getting 500. What are they. What are they getting? Like a mil? No, 500 to. I think they got 600,000, man. Wow. We can't compete with that. And the key Demo, CNN got 90,000 for their. I think 90,000 for their daytime coverage last week.

[Libby Emmons]

Wow.

[Myron Gaines]

We did 300 in the key demo.

[Tim Pool]

You guys got 84k watching right now.

[Myron Gaines]

We have more people watching literally right now at this moment than MSNBC got in their entire daytime key demo. Yeah, I think, I think their daytime key demo is 74,000. That's why they're done, people. And the other thing too is I'm having conversation with these ad buyers. The industry has shifted. This podcast presidency they're calling it, it is our time. So not just here at Simcast, but shout out to the Daily Wire Crew, Steven Crowder, Viva Fry, Jimmy Dore. This is the change. This is the moment. Because people are starting. And Joe Rogan, who's already making bank, is going to make a lot more. Because what's happened now is I'm talking to these ad networks, these sales teams, these companies, and they're basically saying with the podcast presidency, Trump bypassing the corporate press and trying to go to podcasts, even Kamala Harris trying to do Caller Daddy, but avoiding Rogan. All the companies that are buying sponsorships, they're like, for various companies are like, if you want to sell a product, you have to go to the podcasts. You're going to get the personality driving your product, not some spot in between. So think about this. You watch your favorite primetime show with Anderson Cooper and he says, we'll be right back. And then people zone out. Yeah, of course, for podcasts and for YouTube videos. And YouTube has taken over completely. This is crazy. I was just had. I had a conversation today. The guy was like, even podcasts are going down. People want YouTube. Trump changed the game with all of these YouTube live vodcasts that he did. He wins these companies. See the Sheer influence that it generated. They see the popular vote and they say, we want what these guys got. So I was warning a lot of these, a lot of these companies and the people who are listening. The left was trying to convince everybody they were the majority and we were the minority. And companies believed it. Then one day they woke up these Bud lights, these targets and they said, we are losing money going in this direction. This is why I kept saying the popular vote is so important. Important because you're going to. So now when I do sales, if I do sales, if I go to a sponsor, I'm going to say the minority market share are these leftists. Networks is MSNBC, it's CNN, and it's the YouTube censorship and all that stuff. If you want to be where the majority of the people are, it's Joe Rogan, it's the Ovon, it's Tony Hinchcliffe, it's Tim Pool, it's Steven Crowder, it's Jimmy Dore. Do you want the minority market share? Do you want the majority market share? Every single company is going to be like, we want the biggest market share possible for the lowest cost. That's us.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And, and the reality, and you can see it with the selection, right? What did Kamala campaign off of? Bringing a list celebrities, your Taylor Swift's, your Beyonce's, your Bon Jovi's, your Bruce Springsteens, Eminem, J. Lo. She literally brought people in from three different decades, four different decades of stardom that are a list celebrities. And she still couldn't do anything. She brought people to perform at her rallies. Didn't do anything. Meanwhile, you got Trump going on with popular streamers, going on podcasts, having long form conversations in a very, you know, candid manner that hasn't necessarily scripted or, you know, oh, you can't ask me this or ask me that. And he did a lot better. Because the reality is traditional celebrities no longer have the influence of streamers and online personalities because online personalities are far more relatable. They're more almost like touchable. You can interact with them more. You kind of feel like, oh, this is a guy that made it that was kind of like me. So you're going to want to go ahead and pay more attention to what they're doing because you're you, you're more bonded with that individual. And then on top of that, right, let's say you're a huge Eminem fan. What you listen to the Eminem show, you listen to Slim Shady, lp, that's what, maybe an hour of music or Whatever. But when you're listening to a Rogan podcast, you know, you listen to them talk about polar bears for the second or third time, you're like, yeah, you feel you build a bond with him. You know what they're going to talk about.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So, so like you're far more likely to kind of do whatever that influencer does. That's why they're called influencers nowadays. You're far more likely to kind of follow their lead over a traditional celebrity because these guys have a lot more thing. And then on top of that, the mainstream media, no one wants to believes them anymore. So what I'm seeing slowly is that the people are winning. Whether it's Bitcoin, right, Moving away from central banking, 90k, or it's people watching their favorite influencers over traditional celebrities, or it's people watching their favorite podcasters over these news networks. Everything is going to the people, which is fantastic.

[Myron Gaines]

Yo. So election night we did nine hours of coverage. We got 2.5 million and the reporting and I can't believe this is true. They said Fox News had had 2.5 million for their election coverage, but they were covering it longer than we were. So I'm like, that can't be right. That's got to be like primetime coverage. I don't know because Fox does well. Then I saw the MSNBC actually did pretty well for their data. They got 5 million. But they're, I mean, right, because people are going to tune in to watch the election, of course, but that shows for the right. And for Trump, Trump went podcast route. So Fox News viewers were lower and all the podcast views were way higher. So 2.5 million on our end. And it was almost all key demo. These, these cable networks could not make money off profit. One of the reasons they're basically saying they got to ask their high paid staff is that it was a disastrous period. This was supposed to be their Olympics. For cnn, MSNBC and Fox News, I think Fox will be somewhat okay because they're like the only conservative cable network. So they're going to maintain a certain share, but their key demo viewership is still low. Gutfeld is really helping them out. Tucker was really helping them out, but they asked him because they're nuts, Stupid. Very stupid.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, I feel like that was part of the Dominion deal.

[Myron Gaines]

Those are the rumors. But MSNBC and CNN were basically like, okay, guys, this is it. This is game time. This election is going to be make or break. And they broke. Now they're going to start firing people and I Cannot believe Caitlin Collins got $3 million. But mainstream media, good for her. Good for her.

[Tim Pool]

I predict.

[Libby Emmons]

I hope she saved some of it.

[Tim Pool]

In the next 10 years, mainstream media is going to be almost gone. I predict, give it like 10 years. Because no one watches cable or Dish or any of these. Like, you know, no one watches TV anymore. They're on their phones. That's. That's how they're consuming content nowadays. They're on their phones. Whether it's long form on YouTube or clips on Tick Tock or shorts, people are consuming content on their phones and it's just not on TV anymore.

[Myron Gaines]

That is true, but one of the challenges for us on Timcast is that a large portion of our viewership is on TVs. So.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so what do you mean?

[Libby Emmons]

They, like, watch YouTube on TV, they.

[Myron Gaines]

Turn their TV on, open up the app, and play Tim cast IRL on their TV.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay.

[Myron Gaines]

They're friends. But the challenge.

[Tim Pool]

They're playing it or something. Yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

But the challenge then is three people count as one view. And so the ad sales on YouTube were based on how many views you had. And so we get, when we do sponsorships, they're like, wow, for some reason, when we sponsor your show, we sell twice as much as when we do other shows. And I'm like, yeah, well, that's because half our viewers are families watching on TV or like roommates watching at the same time. So it's more like Fox than it is like Rogan. And we can't factor that in. Like, we don't do that. So it is changing.

[Tim Pool]

Undersell over delivery. That's our government motto.

[Myron Gaines]

The only thing that they do.

[Tim Pool]

Right, right, right.

[Myron Gaines]

But that's actually what most of the networks do. Yeah. So that's why people are happy. They're like, hey, if we sponsor Tim Cast irl, we get a. We get big bang for our buck. But I'm just saying right now, there's conversations I'm having because this is the big ad selling season. Everyone's trying to sell their ad slots for, you know, the next quarter or the next two quarters.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. Christmas season.

[Myron Gaines]

That's right. And so what happens now is in December, marketing agencies just dump what money they have left. So everybody's ad rate skyrocket, but they're also buying up for January until for media, they're doing media buys. They call it upfronts. And so what I'm hearing across the board is TV is dead. Yeah. It's just they don't. They don't move product in the same way anymore. And it's like you were saying younger people, if they see you and you say, hey, look guys, I actually did try this product. I thought it was pretty good.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Myron Gaines]

Whereas if you watch tv, they're gonna, it's some, some random person shows up and says, buy this, trust me. And we know it's an actor, we know it's not real. Whenever we get someone who tries to sponsor the show, sometimes I get a script and they'll like, do you want to say that this is the best jerky you've ever had? And I'll be like, if they send it to me and it's the best jerk you've ever had.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Myron Gaines]

If it's not, then I won't say it.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, because it's your word behind it. It's your, it's your veracity. Your viewers trust you.

[Tim Pool]

And so that's especially when they're consuming your content like for hours at a time. Like if you're a podcast or a long form content creator. Like I always kind of look at it like if you do podcasting, you do long form content. Especially like on YouTube, you can translate that to other platforms easily, whether it's Instagram, Twitter, et cetera. Because if people watch you long form form, they'll definitely take you in short form. So if you advertise something right, people watch you so long, they're going to just know like and trust you and buy from you. Versus like you said, a traditional celebrity who they might have went to a concert here or there. There's just multiple points of contact where people are just going to trust you more versus a traditional actor or musician.

[Myron Gaines]

Let's jump to this story from media ites. Democrats are realizing woke is broke. Morning Joe crew reads entire Maureen Dowd column slamming identity politics. They are, they are so over wokeness and MSNBC is spiraling and probably going to sell that they finally came out and admitted it. That identity politics has his is sinking. The Democrats saying things like Latinx are driving people away. James Carville is criticizing their focus on identitarianism. You know, you know what, I've been screaming this for, I mean we're going on 10 years now and I'm not the loudest, I'm at the lowest. Carl Benjamin shoe on head. A lot of the original anti woke creators were in it way before I was and we were all saying Democrats were embracing identitarianism.

[Libby Emmons]

I was saying this in theater and nobody was listening to me. There's back in like 2010 there was.

[Myron Gaines]

A great post from Ezra Klein, where he was basically laying out a lot of what was wrong with the Democrats. And what I absolutely loved about it is what they are saying right now, these Democrats, when they say this stuff is it is better to be a Democrat than to be right.

[Libby Emmons]

Mm. So Democrats, their moral perspective, not about what's their team.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So when. When I as a regular person, middle milk toast fence and a middle of the road guy see Democrats say, sit down and shut up. Do as you're told. Or else I go, well, that's not appealing to me. Republicans say, well, we know, we don't. We don't agree on everything, but let's try and work together. I say, I like this. Democrats then say, we want boys and girls, bathrooms and things like this. And I'm like, okay, that's kind of weird. Republicans say, we want cheap gas. I go, so Republican it is. The response from Democrats is not. It wasn't, hey, maybe we are wrong. It's how do what they've written articles, I think it was New Republic saying it's the perception of what is right. How do we win the perception with. With our own version of Joe Rogan. All they're saying to us is instead of trying to do things that actually helps people and is appealing to people, they're trying to figure out how to make Democrats more appealing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Saying it is better to be a Democrat than it is to be correct on the issues.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, because for them, it's a moral perspective. It's a religion. You can even see that in the reactions of the crazed liberals on TikTok after the election. Right. I mean, they are acting like something is. Is wrong with them on the inside because this happened. They put too much of their personal meaning and stake in federal politics and it doesn't belong there. There's way more meaning in the world than you're going to find in federal politics. There's way more that matters, you know, and they don't realize that at all.

[Tim Pool]

I think the other thing, people, you.

[Libby Emmons]

Know, with the Democrats, that's why they're comfy, cutting off their family.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And I think it's important also for people to know that, like the Democrats. Right. Obviously race is very important. I mean, it's a big reason why they put Kamala in that position to run because they were scared that if they put another Democrat in, it would look bad to go over a black woman. Right. So they're like, oh, that's going to be death for us.

[Libby Emmons]

Because the Democrats even said that outright.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. Because the Democrats Run on race. Why do they run on race? Race. They run on race because it's a game of, oh, look, these rich white Republicans, they're keeping you down, man. Like, we want to go ahead and fill the disparity. That's what it is. They campaign on disparity. You're a Latino, you're a black, you're a minority, et cetera. They're holding you back. Let me come in and be your voice and get you what you need. That's why people like Kamala Harris say, oh, we're going to go ahead and turn the page or opportunity economy. What did Obama a campaign on? Oh, change. Right. So their thing is, we're going to attack these Republicans because they have money and they don't care about you and they want to give tax cuts to the rich and f. To the rich people at the top. We're going to help you. And that's, that's what. Why they campaign so hard on identity politics. It's literally like a necessary component of how they campaign. It's all smoke and mirrors with race and politics.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, but now what we have is a situation where Republicans are the party of the working class.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, the Democrats can't run on that anymore.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. The.

[Tim Pool]

The anti war, too, which is crazy. Now they're anti war Republicans.

[Libby Emmons]

I war working class. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

The post by Ezra Klein that Tim was referencing this morning, the last. We were talking about this earlier. The last paragraph says the most important question in politics isn't whether a politician is well liked, it's whether voters think a politician or a political coalition likes them. And the Democrats have been telling the American people that they don't like them forever. They've been canceling people. So if you don't align with them perfectly, if you step out of line, you're canceled. They've been telling Republicans that they are. First it was Obama with the. With the. They cling to their God and their guns. Then Clinton said.

[Libby Emmons]

Reiterated that the other day.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Then Clinton said that it was the deplorables. Biden said that that MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this nation. Then he called them garbage. These ideas have been actually ingrained into America. Now the Democrats have become the party of the wealthy elite and they look down on Americans. And Donald Trump made it abundantly clear that even though he's a rich guy, he doesn't hate Americans or America. He did it when he did the gut when he went and got in the garbage truck. He did it when he went and he Sold when he was, when he was, was selling McDonald's food. He did it when he bought a boatload of McDonald's and had it in the White House. He speaks to the American people and he says, I don't hate you. I know that I got a lot of money. I know that I'm a different kind of guy, but I don't hate you. And the Democrats have been telling Americans that they hate them for at least the past 15 years. Every time they lose an election, they're leaving the government. Every time they lose, lose an election, they say, I'm getting out of here. I don't want to be. I'm ashamed of my country. They say, nothing good about America unless they're winning. And the narrative that they believe. The 1619 Project. America's inherently racist. America's inherently sexist. Everything that the Democrats say is, I hate America, so why should Americans support them?

[Tim Pool]

No. Also interesting too, JD Vance, when I was watching him, you know, do his speeches and the rallies and everything, he would always say, hey, join the party of common sense. And that's when I said, holy crap, we are cooked. We're at a point now in America where our politicians are campaigning on having fucking common sense. How far left have we gone? How loony have we become? Where you're campaigning on a We are the common sense party. That's how far the left has gone, right? Acknowledging all these different genders, wanting to reaffirm children, they're the LGBT community. All the crap that's going on with that. The foreign wars, right? Like, I mean, for me, I think my biggest voting issue was foreign policy. Clearly, the Democrats couldn't get a hold. They couldn't reel Netanyahu in. They couldn't control what's going on with Russia, Ukraine. I mean, Kamala Harris was in Eastern Europe two weeks before Russia invaded. They haven't talked to Putin in two years. How are you doing that? Our adversaries are laughing at us. You think Putin or any of these are these countries they're saying around campaigning on? Oh, yeah, we campaign on common sense. No, we're the only ones.

[Myron Gaines]

There's a few key points. Famously, Democrats never learned their lesson. Remember the story about Donald Trump liking well done steaks with ketchup?

[Libby Emmons]

Sure.

[Myron Gaines]

They made fun of him. They said, here's a guy who ordered a 30 day dry aged steak, well done with ketchup. And they laughed. Trump knew what he was doing. He was saying to all the working class people who couldn't afford the expensive steaks who go to the grocery store and buy their T bones. I eat my steak like you do. Trump was basically saying, oh, yeah, I could have a. I could have a medium rare filet mignon with some black garlic at a fancy restaurant. Truffle oil, truffle oil, all that good stuff. Herb butter. That's the thing that the rich people love. They love their herb butter on their steak. And instead he said, give me well done with ketchup, because that's what the people do. I'll eat like the people today. They made fun of him. They weren't making fun of Trump. They didn't realize it. They were insulting that regular working class guy who got home and said, hey, man, I can't afford a filet mignon for my family. We do our best. Best, okay? We cook them the way we can cook, and we put ketchup on them because it tastes good. That's the best we got. Now, I know regular working people not to cook good steaks too. But when I grew up, we rarely got the good filet mignon because my family couldn't afford it.

[Libby Emmons]

Expensive.

[Myron Gaines]

So when they made fun of Trump, they made fun of what my life was like when I was a kid. And they made fun of all these other working people. When Donald Trump went to McDonald's with a smile on his face and Bill Burr said he was so excited, this is where they kill it.

[Libby Emmons]

He kept the tie on. He took off his jacket. He put on the apron. He kept the tie and the button down.

[Myron Gaines]

And they made fun of him. Him. And they attacked him for it. And it was legit. A fun thing for him to do, to say, I'm gonna spend a day in your shoes and be here. And the people who are in the cars, they were all pre screened. We knew that. And they were like, trump didn't really work at McDonald's.

[Libby Emmons]

And it's like, really? Did he not. Are you.

[Tim Pool]

We know Kamala didn't. We know Kamala did it.

[Myron Gaines]

The joke was, did you think we, the American people thought Trump went to a random McDonald's, applied for a job, got an interview, got hired, and then.

[Tim Pool]

Showed up for work one day after two assassination attempts.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, we. We knew. And then the garbage truck thing was masterful.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it was very funny.

[Myron Gaines]

And they kept making fun of him every step of the way. But they puritans can't ever just say, sometimes Trump is funny.

[Phil Labonte]

This was all speaking to the fact that they hate Americans.

[Libby Emmons]

It is. It is that they hate Americans. And the day after the election, who did they blame for Kamala's loss. They said Americans are racist and Americans are sexist and Americans don't know what's good for them, and Americans are evil, and that's why America voted for Trump. That's all they could come up with. They didn't realize that they lost us a long time ago. And they also don't realize that when Trump goes out there and talks to people, he's not palling around with Beyonce, and he's not palling around with, you know, Megan Thee Stallion. He's hanging out with the Mypillow, Jovi or whatever else. You know, he's hanging out with regular people that we can relate to. You know what I mean? And Kamala Harris, she doesn't talk to us. She didn't even think we were working worth giving an interview to. You know what I mean? She didn't even hold a press conference when she was running for office. She didn't think that. She didn't think that reporters were worth. Were worth listening to or the people were worth listening to. And everybody that Donald Trump talks to, he talks to the same. You know, I only met him once, and it was in a press gaggle, and I didn't get to ask a question. I only get to shake his hand and say, like, you know, nice to meet you, Mr. President. And he looked at me like I was a real person. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think I would have ever gotten something like that from Kamala Harris.

[Myron Gaines]

Trump. Trump. And there's a handful of other guys, like Tucker Carlson. These guys know how to make you feel like you're the most important person in the room.

[Libby Emmons]

And Biden does that. Biden was good at that, too. He's a good retail politician.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, that. I got it.

[Tim Pool]

So long.

[Myron Gaines]

So there's a handful of people you will meet in your life, and you're going to be like you just like this person.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Russell Brain is one of them. Like, I'm. I. We're hanging out, the Rescue the Republic event. And I'm just standing off the side with Allison, and Russell's walking down. He stops. He looks over at me. He comes over and he's like, tim, oh, it's so great to meet you. And I was like, wow. Like, Russell, thank you so much. It's. They. They know how to make you feel good. They make you feel like you matter. And it's. It's greatly appreciated. Trump does that. He's walking around, he sees you, he compliments you, he shakes your hand, he tells you how Good you are, how great you are. And then you're just like, I want to be around that guy more often. And that's how he pulls it off. Trump. Trump. I've been to like 30 plus Trump rallies. And that was in the first campaign, not the second or third. After he speaks, he walks down off the stage and walks up to the front of the line and he hangs out with people for like 20, 30 minutes. I'm like, this guy's a machine. This is crazy. And he just shakes their hand and he talks to them. And you know, each and every one of those people is sitting there being like, this is one of the greatest days of my life as a man that is fighting for me, that I respect. And he, a billionaire, has given me just some working class guy the time of day.

[Libby Emmons]

He respects Americans and he respects that we work and he respects that we try and raise our kids.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, only politician that came in with a higher net worth than left with less money. Every other politician goes in with a certain net worth, they come out with way more money. Nancy, he came in and lost money.

[Libby Emmons]

Get rich. How'd Nancy Pelosi get that rich?

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm just, I find it so fascinating. They're attacking Pete Heth right now. Like, I'm look, I see some of the tweets.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And they're just like, what are they saying?

[Tim Pool]

Inexperience or what? Are they inexperienced?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. Harry Sisson is like a Fox News.

[Phil Labonte]

Host who's a major.

[Libby Emmons]

Even Elizabeth Warren is like, like saying that Hegseth will make us less safe and must be rejected. How could we be less safe than right now? Like, that's really. That would be pretty shocking.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm seeing criticism, people saying he's pro Israel. And so I'm like, why is the machine acting like they're all of a sudden opposed to this? It's because he's anti woke. It's because Hagseth has been extremely critical of DEI and he wants merit based military. And so also he's a real vet.

[Libby Emmons]

Not a fake one. Like Tim Waltz.

[Myron Gaines]

Yep. Well, you know, I'll give, I'll give Walt's credit for being a vet. I don't, you know, I can respect that. But he lied about his rank and he lied about carrying weapons of war. And war. The. Seamus made a joke and he retired before deployment. Seamus made a joke. I think I, I think his freedom tunes bit was that Tim Waltz was having PTSD flashbacks and the flashback was like eating at Italian restaurants and like spilling his spaghetti on the floor. And he's like, ah. Because, see, he was in Italy. I mean, he's doing. He's doing security. That's respectable. I don't want to rag on the guy for that. I'm gonna rag on the guy for lying. But yeah, I'm. I. You know what they don't like? They don't like that. I like that quote. He didn't work for Raytheon for 20 years.

[Libby Emmons]

I think that's good.

[Myron Gaines]

Military contractor or whatever.

[Libby Emmons]

Meanwhile, Hexeth went to Princeton. He is a graduate degree from Harvard.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

You know, he's an army combat veteran. He was in Guantanamo, Iraq, in Afghanistan. He got two bronze stars in combat Infantryman's badge.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, he has all of the credentials of the left. He has the things that they want their leaders to have that they value. Yeah. But it's not enough for them.

[Myron Gaines]

It's opposition for the sake of opposition. Let's jump to this next story. We have some fun.

[Tim Pool]

Like, you said, all or nothing, right?

[Myron Gaines]

Right. We got this from the New York Post. SNL star Chloe Feynman says rude Elon made her cry. I burst into tears. Oh, no. Did an SNL cast member cry? Because Elon is meant. Okay, well, what did he do? Did he like, hit her or something? Or what? Made her cry?

[Libby Emmons]

Okay, I just saw some news article about Elon Musk being like, butt hurt about SNL and his impression. But I'm like, you're clearly watching the show. Like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna come out and say at long last that I'm the cast member that he made cry and he's the post that made someone cry. Maybe there's others. But I saw some articles and stuff, and I was like, I'm not going to say anything. But I'm like, no. If you're going to, like, go on your platform and be rude, like, guess what? You made. I, Chloe Finan, burst into tears because I stayed up all night writing the sketch. I was so excited.

[Tim Pool]

I came in, I asked if you.

[Libby Emmons]

Had any questions, and you stared at me like you were firing me from Tesla and were like, it's not funny. I waited for you to be like, haha, jk.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Libby Emmons]

Then you started pawing through my script, flipping each page, being like, I didn't laugh.

[Myron Gaines]

Just. I didn't laugh once.

[Libby Emmons]

Not one time.

[Myron Gaines]

What you supposed to say?

[Libby Emmons]

The sketch made it on and it was like, fine. And I actually had a really good time and I thought you were really funny. In it, but, you know, have a little manners here.

[Myron Gaines]

So I'm just going to say this. I'm going to trigger all the feminists right now.

[Tim Pool]

Women aren't funny.

[Myron Gaines]

They just aren't.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just going to be honest. All female comedians suck, but they just suck.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, I'm going to pause right there and say Nikki Glaser is hilarious and Casey Sharnima is also hilarious. Not. Look, I agree with you on the overwhelming majority of female comics. Yeah, women are fun because I'm always complaining how when I'm on Instagram, so I follow Ryan Long and Danny Polish, and their bits are hilarious.

[Libby Emmons]

I follow that, too.

[Myron Gaines]

The emotional intelligence bit, they did. Women are more emotionally intelligent than us. Like, they have the emotional intelligence to complain and freak out when the flight gets canceled, even though it can't do anything. Like, it was a brilliant piece. And so I get recommended these comics. The female comics are only ever talking about sex.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, well, that's the contemporary ones. I mean, Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett, you know, these were funny women.

[Myron Gaines]

Roseanne Barr, I think Nikki Glazer is hilarious. Her. Her roast of it was like, she roasted Alec Baldwin or whatever was. Was really good. And she's got a bunch of other funny bits. I've only seen a handful from Casey Sharnima, but her bits are really funny. And she's. She's like, you know, she. She kind of mocked wokeness a little bit in a way that I. I appreciated. But overwhelmingly, I largely agree. The issue I have here is not about female comics. It's that dude. Okay, guys, we. We need to make sure that if a woman is getting the job, she's getting the job because she's good at it, not because she's a woman.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, 100%.

[Myron Gaines]

And that's true for anybody. Because I'll tell you why. I have been in meetings with people who clearly got the job because the company was like, we have a mandate to hire a woman.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And then you've got four guys, and they've each got like, 5 million followers. And they're like, here's how I built my company. Here's how I built my company. And there's someone who has none, and she's like, I have an idea. Why don't we do this thing? That's a really. It's a terrible idea. And then we try to be nice, and we'll be like, okay, well, like, the reason that doesn't work is because of this. And then she's like, because I'm a woman, because I'm a woman. They won't listen to me. And we're like, no, that's actually good. Nothing to do with you being a woman. It's. The problem is not that you're a woman, it's that you were put here because you're a woman, not because you had the skills.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And if they actually just put the people based on merit, sometimes you'd get women and they would be funny and we would be like, that's actually a really good idea. What ends up happening is these companies hire women for the sake of hiring women. These women are then like, I worked so late on this sketch, and then Elon Musk said it was not funny and I cried. And I'm like, you should be fired.

[Libby Emmons]

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[Myron Gaines]

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[Libby Emmons]

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[Myron Gaines]

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[Libby Emmons]

So the one can keep that vintage.

[Myron Gaines]

Building running like new. Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by Grainger.

[Libby Emmons]

For the ones who get it done.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, like, the host came in, said it was not good. You should say, what can I do to make it funny? Do you have any ideas? And said, she cried. You can't do the job.

[Libby Emmons]

It doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be that way. Like, there's plenty of women writers who are perfectly good and won't, you know, freak out if they're told that their sketch isn't funny and can stand up for themselves. I don't think it needs to be that way. I think that a lot of this current generation of creators and whatever have been extremely coddled and the women of the previous generations who really fought and worked hard to get to where they were, they're not going to cry over it. Tina Fey's not going to cry. Whether you think she's funny or not, I happen to, but, oh, she's.

[Myron Gaines]

She's great. 30 Rock was one of the best.

[Libby Emmons]

She's not going to. She's not going to cry. If you don't like her sketch, she's going to be like, okay, so you don't like it.

[Myron Gaines]

Whatever.

[Libby Emmons]

She's going to do. Whatever she's going to do. So I think that this is. I think that you could have had a fella out here crying as well, because people just don't have any backbone or stamina or work ethic.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we would ridicule him for it. Like you like as well.

[Libby Emmons]

She should be ridiculed.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. Like, she should be ridiculous. She should be ridiculed. Yes. And that's the issue is that, like, so, like, men kind of have to live in a based reality where their inadequacy leads to consequences. With women, it's like they can suck on a lot of things and like, well, no pun intended, but they can suck at a lot of things and no one cares. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, yeah, you suck. And you'll criticize them, like, and they'll like, cry or whatever. Like, why is there this influx of women on TikTok crying in their cars with their phone like this? They can't get a guy.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, they're getting views.

[Tim Pool]

We don't roast them enough. We need to roast them more.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, yeah, lips of TikTok goes nuts on that. She's amazing at roasting them.

[Myron Gaines]

Was it. Was it Richard Dawkins who said women aren't funny because they don't need to be? Yes, he was just like, they're not funny. It's like, why? They don't need to be.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

That's just it. There's a funny meme on where a.

[Libby Emmons]

Guy in 4 Chalice Diller was funny and she wasn't very attractive. So, I mean, if you balance it out like that.

[Myron Gaines]

That's the thing. Like, I get what you're saying when you're like, women aren't funny. It's general, generally speaking, but they're 99%. But then you get like, they're. They're. They're women who are good, who are. Who are great comedians. Tina Fey, I think, is actually fantastic. You know, but it's more rare. And there's this funny meme on 4chan where a guy said, better everything.

[Tim Pool]

Tim.

[Myron Gaines]

Men are better at object oriented things.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So I feel like women are better. Well, let me. Let me better at everything. There's a meme where a guy said, will being funny make me more attractive to women? And they said, no, but being attractive will make you funnier to women. And that's true. A guy who is attractive will more likely succeed in social interactions than a guy who is not attractive. This is just. This is the meme where the guy.

[Libby Emmons]

That's always true. I mean, more like, the more attractive, the better stuff you get in life. Like, it just works out better for you in social interactions. You know, like attractive people Are hired more like. That's. That's. That's, you know, Darwin. Right.

[Myron Gaines]

I also want to save, like, this woman on SNL where she cried because Elon said she wasn't funny. And she's like. She's making something out of it. Like, this is not something for you to. You should be embarrassed.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

No, she should be ashamed.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, yeah. And even more embarrassed that she made a video saying, I cried because Elon didn't find me funny. It's like, Elon is a guy who laughs at a dog meme on the Internet. It's not hard to get him laughing with memes and, like, simple jokes. You should not be proud that he didn't find you funny.

[Tim Pool]

But, again, if this was a guy, he would never have the gall to get on the camera and be like, yeah, I don't love my video, and, like, complaining about it. But women do this all the time. Because they convict. Exactly. They can victimize themselves. Like that dumb chick that went, you know, to Nick's house, like, you know, wrote this whole paragraph victimizing herself, even though she was the antagonizer she.

[Myron Gaines]

Because. Because she knows she'll get attention for it.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Myron Gaines]

The left will prop her up. And this is crazy, because this is actually a political split that we're seeing in general. It's like, the Democratic Party is the feminine. The Republican Party is the more masculine in a lot of ways. And I'm not saying that hyperbolically. I'm quite. The Democratic Party is largely feeble female, and the Republican Party is more so male. Not as large, largely male than the Democrat is. But millennial women are, like, what, 70% Democrat?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Overwhelmed.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. There's a lot of them. And they cry a lot. I mean, millennial women really do cry a lot.

[Myron Gaines]

So I'm just, like, banned social media at this point, because when Trump wins and you see 7,000 videos of women taking their phones out and filming themselves crying.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm like, why? Why would you.

[Libby Emmons]

It's really weird behavior, too. I find that histrionics are.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, it's literal.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Myron Gaines]

It's historic.

[Libby Emmons]

Been killing it, though, is Justine Bateman. I've been loving her.

[Myron Gaines]

Mocking. Mocking them all.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, well, she's been doing, like, critical reviews of liberal women crying, and they're really funny. You know, she'll talk about their costume choices. She'll be like, you're not really selling it. You know what I mean? Like, you really want to go back in, find it deep within yourself. She's wonderful. It's Funny, because her brother is, you know, woke. Justin Bateman.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it. It. It proves that feminism was a objective failure. You know what I mean? Because these women, a lot of. Because you mentioned millennials crying a lot. Well, the reason why they cry is because they bought. Is this hook, line, and sinker of I can have a career and have it all and make a bunch of money. And I got.

[Myron Gaines]

I got to be honest, too, though, it takes two to tango. Humans. Humans don't live in a vacuum. We. We have. We have males and we have females, and there's too many guys who support these women who do this stuff.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, of course.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Feminism exists because of men.

[Myron Gaines]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

Men are a big part of the reason why women have so many abortions.

[Myron Gaines]

You know, literally, they're half the reason.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. But I mean, like, there's a lot of encouraging, you know, hey, babe. Having a portion.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, the only fan thing.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

It's because it only. So we can. I can criticize women on only fans to a certain degree. I'm fairly libertarian, and I'm like, you know, do whatever. I don't care. I got equal or more criticism for these guys because so many guys are like.

[Libby Emmons]

You mean the subscriber guys?

[Tim Pool]

The Simpson.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm talking about guys in general who are like, it's so hard for me to find a date and do all this stuff. And I'm like, okay, first, if you're a guy who works hard, you're working out, you're improving yourself, you're studying, and you're having a hard time, I feel for you. Life is rough. If you're a guy who does all those things, and then you're paying some woman on Only fans, you deserve exactly what you get.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, the Simpson. I've always said I've been very critical of Simpsons, that what they've done is they've created this economy. And the way. The reason why women behave, the way that they behave is because a lot of men have been. Simpson, like, kind of just reaffirmed it or allowed it.

[Myron Gaines]

Right?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. It's not good.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Dude. It's wild to see, like, these female streamers. And the guys, like, 304s, man.

[Tim Pool]

Well, most of them.

[Myron Gaines]

There was one story where a guy gave women, like, 10 grand.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And he wasn't rich. He wasn't rich.

[Libby Emmons]

Why would you take a man's money like that? That is really insane. I don't know how you do that. I don't know how you do that.

[Myron Gaines]

So there was some story a long time ago And I'm probably getting details wrong because it's been several years, but he, he had like saved up his life savings, had 10 grand and he donated it to some, some, some streamer. And then she was like, wow, thank you so much. And then completely forgot about him and he lost his mind.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And he was like, I just g thing and you won't even talk to me. And she's like, bye, Ban. Yeah, later. Thanks for the money.

[Tim Pool]

Yep, that's, that's how it goes, man, with a lot of these female streamers.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, these guys need to stop giving money to streamers. It's an economy that we don't need. Now look, if you want to go ahead, fine, but I'm telling you, it's not going to improve your life. It's only gonna make everything worse. But these guys don't care.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, I've had, I've had, you know, people who appear to be men come into my DMS and like, ask if they can give me money and stuff. And I'm just like, like, well, obviously I'm just going to block you now because that's super creepy and weird and I don't need your money.

[Tim Pool]

Well, yeah, what's your catch up? Right. That whole thing.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. But isn't that so bizarre? Like, I don't understand why somebody would want to give a girl money online that they don't know.

[Myron Gaines]

I think people need to own chickens, ok? Because I think you watch the rooster and you'll understand these guys. When the rooster walks into the hens and starts pecking at the ground and then shuffling his feet around, I'm like, that's when the guy dm's the woman saying he's going to buy your stuff and take care of her. And she's just like, this is weird. This is not how it goes. You know what I mean?

[Libby Emmons]

Take a girl out, make her laugh. Enjoy yourselves.

[Myron Gaines]

Life's not easy. But I think one of the big problems we have is so as the saying goes, women are subject oriented, men are object oriented.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Myron Gaines]

These women like this, this lady on, on SNL made a video where she's like, I was crying. Why aren't you supposed to make people laugh? Why are you trying to piss people off? And, well, it's because her, her position is let me garner as much sympathy as possible as a victim to generate followers, stores, and then people will give me things.

[Libby Emmons]

I think that's weird.

[Myron Gaines]

Indeed. Indeed it is.

[Libby Emmons]

But you know, I grew up in a different time. Me and Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, we did.

[Tim Pool]

I will Say this, these young women that like, like, live on their phones nowadays, they're cooked, bro. Because, like, what's going to happen is, as you know, we all know that a woman's sexual market value is fairly perishable. As she ages, she gets less and less attractive. Not as much attention. These girls are getting an enormous amount of attention right now. Now as they get older and then a new young, hot girl comes on the block, they're not going to get as much attention. Look at Britney Spears right now. She's going crazy, dancing with knives every other day on Twitter, doing some weird stuff, almost stabbing herself. And that is because she's not as relevant as she used to be. So what is she doing? She's doing riskier and weirder things to get the same attention she used to get in the 90s and 2000s.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, so with child actors and actresses, the way I would describe it is let's say the average person grows up and let's, let's quantify fight. You have five family members. Every day you hear from only two of them, I love you. Your parents, your brothers and sisters don't say it all that often. Right.

[Libby Emmons]

Your parents say that too.

[Myron Gaines]

When kids are growing up on average. And so your parents say, you know, going to school, like, bye, I love you. You get, you hear it from two people every day. Imagine you're a child celebrity every day. You hear it from 17,000 people.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Most of it is fake and most of it's fake. But you hear I love you.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Myron Gaines]

As you get older and you become less relevant, you, you need. Your body is adapted to and expects 17,000 I loves you, I love yous in one day.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Myron Gaines]

Now you're getting seven. You go insane.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

You feel like you're doing something wrong. People need to say I love you. And so for regular people who grew up in normal families, by the time they're older and they get a couple I love yous, it's a normal life. Some people like you, some people don't. Child celebrities who grow up with everyone saying, you're the best, the most beautiful, the funniest, and we all love you. And then you're 30 and no one says it ever. You go insane. You. You throw a bong out a window, you bang knives on, on X and you beg for attention that no one will give you. And then you get locked up.

[Tim Pool]

And that's what I'm trying to. So what you just mentioned, like an average chick, right on IG is getting that level of attention nowadays, thanks to Instagram and social media. What I'm saying is that we're going to have that for a lot of women in 20 to 30 years. I'm telling you, Tim, you're wrong. Okay. Why?

[Myron Gaines]

Go ahead, AI.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Why do you think AI? How does AI going to fix that problem?

[Libby Emmons]

Replace the women, bro.

[Myron Gaines]

You're. You're so one of two things.

[Libby Emmons]

Replace the women and the men. And then we're just.

[Myron Gaines]

Women are going to start using filters, okay? And we've already seen it with, like, these older women who use filters. Like, there was this old, fat Asian woman who made herself look like a teenage girl. Right?

[Libby Emmons]

You can do that with makeup, too. You don't need filters.

[Myron Gaines]

But the filter was instant. And then something happened that broke the filter, and she briefly appeared and then freaked out. But she was making money. Money by talking like this and, you know, and trying to act like a young girl. And then once the filter broke, it went viral and her. And it was done.

[Tim Pool]

So you're saying that they're going to be able to extend that period of time where they get attention?

[Myron Gaines]

I'm saying guys are going to be like, dude, women got no idea how to run the game. I'm going to create seven AI women, and I'm going to program them and control them. And that's already started to happen. Men are already running only fans. You know this.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Guys are running it. They're getting women to take pictures, and then the guys are the ones who are doing the chat. Now. They're not going to need women. They're going to go to an AI app and say, make an AI video of a woman doing something naughty. I'll post it, sell it, and then I'll act like the woman. And women aren't going to be able to compete with guys. You think women are going to be better at running these businesses than men?

[Tim Pool]

No, they won't.

[Myron Gaines]

But so.

[Tim Pool]

What I will say is this.

[Myron Gaines]

Women aren't going to be happy to lose these jobs.

[Tim Pool]

I'm talking about they're not going to.

[Libby Emmons]

Have them forever anyway, and women will go do something else.

[Tim Pool]

I'm talking about the women now.

[Libby Emmons]

More women comedians that get this attention.

[Tim Pool]

That, like, in the next 10 to 20 years. I'm talking about now. But I actually agree with you. I actually made a whole tweet about this. Lamar Odom got a sex doll that looked like Khloe Kardashian and got a bunch of, like, weird, you know, things on that. Yeah, he got. Yeah, he literally did a couple days ago. And I Actually talked about this. Yeah, like sex robots.

[Libby Emmons]

I do think people about it.

[Tim Pool]

It like he got, like, I think he got paid to do it, to be honest with you. Like, I think the sex robot company paid him. But the bottom line is this. I think, because I do agree with you on that, that like AI and stuff is going to take over. But I'm talking about the women now, that they're going to not get as much attention because you can. And you can argue that it's going to. Because they are. But the sex robot thing, though, I think it's weird and probably most of us here at the table think it's weird. I think it's going to get to a point in the next maybe 50, 20 to 100 years. Somewhere in that range, it's going to be normal. Remember 20 years ago, like, if you met a girl on the dating app, you were a weirdo. Now it's the norm. A lot of people are getting married off the dating apps. I think sex robots, since so many guys are struggling, what they're going to do is they're going to start using sex robots. It's already happening now.

[Myron Gaines]

And so let's, let's, let's quantify this.

[Tim Pool]

We got to invest in them.

[Libby Emmons]

There are. You could quantify this in brothel. A sex doll, brothels.

[Myron Gaines]

Fine, let's quantify this. You've got a man and he says, I can't deal with the dating market. So he gets a robot. You got a woman and she's like, oh, men are awful. Gets a robot. These women and only women aren't going.

[Tim Pool]

To get robots, though.

[Myron Gaines]

Women, women are buying robots.

[Libby Emmons]

Of course they are.

[Myron Gaines]

They absolutely.

[Libby Emmons]

You out of your mind. Of course they are.

[Myron Gaines]

You're shaking your. Shake your head.

[Tim Pool]

I'll tell you why, but keep going.

[Myron Gaines]

You're wrong because it is already happening and they're selling them now. The issue is women, I think, will largely not adopt them because it's for the same reason why male strippers are not as prominent as female strippers.

[Tim Pool]

That's exactly what I was going to tell you.

[Myron Gaines]

Women. Women do not want men in submissive positions. So this is. And this is not my opinion. There's research on strip clubs. Why are there so many female stripping and why are there so few male stripping? It does exist, but women go to male strip clubs largely as a jokey entertainment with their girlfriends, where they giggle. Men go for sexual gratification. Women are not often in, let's just say, titillated by men in submissive positions where they're where they're servants. Men enjoy women in the submissive position. So they go to the strip club clubs. The robots will not work for women because women are going to be in full control of the machine. Men are going to enjoy the robots because they will be in full control of the machine.

[Libby Emmons]

Totally different mindset.

[Myron Gaines]

What's going to end up happening then is these women on OnlyFans are going to be like, please subscribe. And the guys are going to be like, get a robot. Then the guys are going to go work petroleum Engineer jobs making 200k a year. Women are not going to have those jobs. Men are more likely to work higher risk jobs and higher skilled jobs than women. Women tend to work the average jobs. There will become a massive gender pay disparity between all of the ridiculously single individuals. No one will be married. Men will have triple the income of women. Then the women will complain. Everyone votes. And likely what happens is because guys are voting less than women, women will vote to tax all the men to pay their bills and the state will enforce it.

[Tim Pool]

Okay?

[Libby Emmons]

Terrible dystopia though.

[Tim Pool]

There are.

[Myron Gaines]

Let's make a movie.

[Tim Pool]

Though there are women that are using robots, it's still the minority because the reality is the things that women look for in a relationship can be outsourced by robotics. Robot for men, a lot of it can be outsourced. Sex, food. We don't want them to talk that much, so they don't really need that. But you can talk with your buddies. But with women, women need that protection, that provisioning. And then women are more interested in people than men are interested in people. So women need that masculine energy and to feel like they got a protector and a provider. It's very difficult to find that nowadays. But you can't outsource that to a robot is what I'm trying to say. Though there will be a market for robots for women, it's not going to be nearly as profitable as the robot industry for men.

[Myron Gaines]

So women, women have already used robots.

[Libby Emmons]

There's a lot of a long time.

[Myron Gaines]

I mean women, women have their own versions and men largely didn't. But what men are looking for, and this is a really interesting dynamic, men don't buy these products the way women do today. But once it becomes humanoid, lifelike, weird robots, women are not going to have as big a market as men will. I believe you're right because men are looking for an emotionally satisfying encounter. And so they want, want. They got like guys are going to want something that simulates girlfriend, ASMR and.

[Libby Emmons]

We're easy to please just Japanese guys who are marrying their anime.

[Tim Pool]

Because the other thing I think that's very important for people to understand is that men are very easy to please from a female perspective. But women necessary are not necessarily as easy to please. Women require far more.

[Myron Gaines]

Isn't that crazy?

[Tim Pool]

Men do.

[Libby Emmons]

I totally disagree.

[Myron Gaines]

Isn't this crazy that guys totally disagree?

[Tim Pool]

Disagree that women don't have higher standards than men?

[Libby Emmons]

I think women maybe have. Have higher standards, but I think that the things women want are also very simple people.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely not.

[Myron Gaines]

Guys.

[Tim Pool]

If that was the case, we'd have more married women. We didn't have more women that are happy. We wouldn't have.

[Libby Emmons]

All these women are more happy than single women.

[Tim Pool]

But that's what I'm trying to say. That's what I'm trying to say. But we'd have more of them.

[Myron Gaines]

They wanted to be happy, they'd get married.

[Tim Pool]

Thank you, I think.

[Libby Emmons]

But they don't know it.

[Myron Gaines]

Guys. Guys are going to buy products so they can find love. And women buy products today so they can have gratification. A guy is not going to go to a store to buy a toy away. A woman would. And I'm trying to be light here because we don't want to get too graphic. Yeah, but guys don't buy these products the way women do.

[Libby Emmons]

No, but guys don't go to the sales industry the way women do because they want.

[Myron Gaines]

Because they want a woman to lay next to them. And so that's why you have these AI girlfriends exploding among men, because men don't need women in the same way. Like, women want to buy toys so they can physically gratify themselves. Men want robot girlfriends to say I love you. That's a crazy dynamic. Did you see that kid who committed suicide because his Daenerys Targaryen AI girlfriend friend said, I love you. Why can't you be with me? And he's like, I'll come to you now. I'll come to you now. She goes, oh, please, my love, come to me. And then he took his own life. That's terrifying.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that was terrifying. I really. I really hated that story.

[Myron Gaines]

Guys. Guys are getting are down. Are buying body pillows to snuggle with. They're not banging their body pillows.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, women are buying body pillows to snuggle with. 2. They just don't have faces.

[Myron Gaines]

This is why female girlfriend ASMR creepy stuff is so popular on YouTube. There's tons of videos where it's a. A woman films herself, records herself herself, fake sleeping and Making weird noises so that guys can plate in their headphones and feel like they have a girl with them.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Well, I still think it's important to understand that, like, not only do women have more standards, but remember, women can just go out into the marketplace and find a guy. It might not be her top choice, but they can. Versus, like, the guy, he can't necessarily just go out and find a girl.

[Libby Emmons]

Women don't know that.

[Tim Pool]

They absolutely know that. Thanks to social media, they know that.

[Libby Emmons]

You know, the young, pretty women know that, but most women don't know that. Most of your average women.

[Tim Pool]

Average women have. Average women have more pull in the sexual marketplace than celebrity guys.

[Libby Emmons]

You guys, you guys, like, you guys don't talk to a lot of women who are looking.

[Tim Pool]

I've talked to thousands.

[Myron Gaines]

I think.

[Tim Pool]

I think talk to thousands.

[Myron Gaines]

I think there's a relativity issue here. Like, women on dating apps get messaged. Guys on dating apps message. So the reason why a lot of guys have been abandoning dating apps is why Bumble changed their system is because guys are going. They're swiping and typing their fingers to the but phone. And all women do is open the app and then scroll through the list of guys who message them and then choose who they want. The data shows.

[Tim Pool]

And they don't even go out with them a lot of times.

[Myron Gaines]

Right. The data shows that men will message literally any woman. And women will only respond to the top 20% of men. Because women, like you were saying, average women have more. More marketplace value than celebrity men.

[Tim Pool]

And Instagram and social media has made it where they're able to globalize it.

[Myron Gaines]

Now, whether they know it or not, not, they act upon it, they behave it, and the products reflect it. So Bumble, for. I think they changed this, right, Bumble?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. It used to be the woman had to message you first. And on D and on Bumble and Tinder, they only mess. They only respond to about 5% of the guys that message them.

[Myron Gaines]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

About 5%.

[Libby Emmons]

Now, guys, everyone should just marry their high school sweetheart.

[Myron Gaines]

They should.

[Libby Emmons]

And not do any of this stuff anymore.

[Myron Gaines]

When, when, when Tinder started, guys blame the women, though.

[Tim Pool]

They're the ones that pick.

[Myron Gaines]

Guys would just swipe. It's all society, man. When Tinder first started, guys would just swipe right on every single woman. Because it was like the response that Tinder was getting was guys were saying, I swipe on 200 women I think are attractive, and I get no responses. So I'm. I'll take anything at this point. So they Started swiping on everybody and Tinder realized that guys had just started saying yes to every single person. So they started putting limits on it, saying only a certain amount at a time.

[Phil Labonte]

We had a.

[Tim Pool]

But here's the thing. Women control the sexual marketplace.

[Phil Labonte]

We had a guy that was controlled. I told the story the other night. We had a guy that was our guitar tech for a little while and he literally would just put. Pick up his phone and on Tinder and he would just. Every single person swiping right. Didn't matter. He didn't look at any of them because he was just casting the widest net possible.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, because he's like, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to swipe right. I'm going to sit there and focus and swipe right and swipe left and swipe right and get no responses from anybody.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So just whatever, whatever the data shows, and this is OkCupid data, the attraction curve for men is a standard bell curve and for women it's an exponential gain.

[Libby Emmons]

What does that mean?

[Myron Gaines]

Women only respond to the top. The top 20% that's in.

[Tim Pool]

But dating apps. On dating apps now. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So only initially. Once they get to know people, it becomes normal. So men, they don't know. They're only looking at the most. The most top. Top tier. Once they get to know someone, same for everyone that. Well, yeah, for women it's. And then once they. But once they get to know it turns. Once they get to know it, everyone, it turns into normal people.

[Myron Gaines]

Not opinion. All fact. The app data shows this and it causes serious change in their business structure. A woman who is considered to be the mid percentile will get messages from every guy, even guys who are slightly higher grade. And so this is the dating apps actually quantify the amount of attention you're getting and the score of your profile while women ignore. So like a woman who would be a 5 out of 10 feels like she deserves a 10 out of 10 guy and she'll ignore every other guy. So then what ends up happening is you get incels. There was an interview like eight years ago with a guy who was an incel. Who was a completely normal looking, average guy with a good paying job. And when they interviewed him they were like, what do you mean you're an incel. You're like an average guy. You're five, nine, you make 60,000 a year, you've got a college degree. And then he was saying, he was, he was saying like, but why can't I, Why isn't it working for me then? And they were like, what are you doing wrong? And he's like, I try and going all the dating apps, they looked at his. Look at his profile. There's a funny meme. You probably know this one.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Where a woman said, my brother was struggling to date. And he said no matter what he did on dating apps, nothing was working. I told him he was wrong and he was doing it wrong. So I said, I'll run your app for you. And she said, after a day, I was super depressed. I hated life, and I never picked the app up again. She was like, I made a great profile. I picked the best photos. He's 6 foot tall, he's fit. I was messaging people. No one would respond. They were mean, they were snooty. Man, it sucks to be a guy.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, I don't think apps are the way to find true love either. I mean, don't you think that that's a failed system?

[Myron Gaines]

Well, I do. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the thing, right? There's so many different factors going on here, but the reality is that women control the sexual marketplace. And since women control the sexual marketplace, place women kind of date on a. Can I do better? And with the Internet and higher status men and more attractive men constantly contacting them, they always feel like they can do better, even though they might not necessarily be able to do better. There's average girls that can hook up with an NBA player or a celebrity rapper and she'll think, oh, this is the type of guy that I now qualify for. But the reality, she only qualifies for sex, not a relationship. But in her head, no girl wants to feel like a. So she's like, oh, no, I. I could get this guy. And then winds up happening is she stays in this perpetual circle where she's not necessarily able to get a guy. Because you guys mentioned, oh, yeah, marry your high school sweetheart. That's not good enough for women anymore. The average man is not attractive.

[Libby Emmons]

True.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the thing. The average man, 5 foot 8, making 30, 50k per year is not attractive to the average woman. The average woman wants more than that, significantly.

[Myron Gaines]

And that's the, that's the meme of all the profiles that say no men under six feet.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. Because the, the contemporary thing, six, six pack. Isn't that. Isn't that like. I mean, isn't that obvious?

[Myron Gaines]

Average guy's five, nine.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. But isn't that just obviously so sat. Like, why would you. Why would you.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the problem. Touting that I'VE literally asked this question to girls, like, how much do you want every girl? I want a guy to make six figures a year. Okay. What percentage of men do you think earn this kind of money? And they're like 50%, 70%, 80%. And the reason why is because a lot of times they only deal with men at this level. They don't know that the average guy's making 30, 50k per year. So they assume that what they see all the time is normal. Because women kind of have a very skewed perception of reality when it comes to dating. Because they only see the cream of the crop, the best guys, because they're the ones coming up to them all the time. The other guys are invisible, like they're at Walmart or cvs. They're not checking out none of those guys that work there. They're invisible. Meanwhile, we're at cvs. Oh, that chick is hot. And, you know, I mean, we're very different.

[Phil Labonte]

The invisible part is actually, like the fact that you said invisible. That really does speak to the way that women perceive. Like, those dudes don't even exist.

[Tim Pool]

Don't even exist.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, if you're just. If you're an average guy. Most women avoid any interaction because it's dangerous to interact with men that you don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

For women, they can get, they can get attacked. Even though women do get attacked less frequently than men. Like, because women are generally smaller, they're more vulnerable. So the, the stakes are much higher. So those dudes, they don't like average dudes that they don't find attractive. Perspective, they don't want anything to do with it at all. They don't exist, period.

[Myron Gaines]

Let's, let's take this conversation to the members only show where we can get a little spicier with it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, sweet.

[Myron Gaines]

Okay, go in bigger detail.

[Tim Pool]

I can say what I wanted. Everything.

[Myron Gaines]

Right. So on the members only. So in 20 minutes. All right, for now, we're going to read your super chat. So if you want to go to the members only and we're going to deep dive into the current social dynamics, head over to timcast.com click join us. Become a member. Get in the Discord server. There's tens of thousands of people like minded. If you want. If you're saying, like, how do I get involved? How do I join the movement? What is it? What does it mean, this Discord server? Everybody's in. Okay, so you hang out with these people, they're gonna talk to you. We've had people get married no, no joke.

[Tim Pool]

Nice.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, they get. They. They met in Discord server, they got married, and everyone's like, I know you're talking about it's more than. More than a couple people, but I'm not promising it to anybody. They joke that we should make a dating app. No, no, no. It's friends. You'll hang out, and then in the members only show, you can call in and talk to us and our guest. And I imagine the conversation will get a little bit spicier. It'll be fun.

[Tim Pool]

But guys, come on over. Everyone from Fresh Fit, come on over to members. I'm going to be. We're going to cook. We're going to be a good time. Come on over. I'm going to full. Full unhinged on there because I know what you guys want me to talk about. I'll talk about it over there. Not on YouTube.

[Myron Gaines]

All right, so we're going to. We're going to grab. We'll grab super chats for now. So we got T Bomb, who says people have become Tim cast members just to join the exclusive Seven Days to Die server. Join now, Lincoln Discord. And see, we didn't even make that. They just made it. They. So it's like a zombie game where it's like you. I guess you have to build up a base or resources or something. That sounds fun. All right, let's go. Red Rum says se my. And that's how you are on time at live shows.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. That's because we start our live stream late sometimes, and they're. They say we're on time, which we are sometimes, but that's fine.

[Phil Labonte]

If they're mentioning it in. In. In this, it's probably more than sometimes. Be honest.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's all the time.

[Libby Emmons]

All right, all right.

[Tim Pool]

We try to be more on time like the one. Right, guys, we got you guys.

[Myron Gaines]

Mad Max says not crazy about Rubio and Walt, Secretary of Defense Heth. I'm surprised Tulsi, RFK and Cash Patel haven't gotten top jobs yet, man. They better. They better get Cash Patel something good. That guy deserves it. And I was really hoping he was going to be CIA Director Ratcliffe. I'm not. I'm not bummed about. I think Cash would have been better, but, you know, I'm.

[Tim Pool]

I'm. I'm.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm optimistic, you know? All right, let's grab some more super chats.

[Phil Labonte]

What do we got? What do we got?

[Myron Gaines]

Golden Fleece game, says Brandon Herrera for director of the atf. Oh, please, dude, that would be amazing.

[Phil Labonte]

That would be good.

[Myron Gaines]

You know, Trump is going to go for the political route. He's going to give people. I said this. He's going to be a marginally good president. We're going to groan at some of the stuff that he does. It'll be pretty good. We'll be happy with it. And then what comes next is going to be up to us. And the left is screaming he's Hitler and he's taking over. He's going to burn the country down. It's not going to happen. He's also not going to make your dreams come true. Well, I mean, for some of you, he might.

[Phil Labonte]

If he. If he picks the right ATF director, he might make some of my dreams come true.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. ATF has almost been disbanded a few times, so they need some help.

[Phil Labonte]

Beautiful.

[Tim Pool]

Operation Fast and Furious messed them up.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Myron Gaines]

Vic Schmidt says, hey, Tim and crew, could you give a shout out to my parents, Lori and Kurt, for contributing to the Trump victory? I introduced your show to my parents, and they love you guys and the daily wireless. Here, here. Thank you very much. We really do appreciate it. We've been, it's been. The show's been rocking along since the election. We had a big election night. 2.5 million views on our election coverage. And it's been great. It's been great. Let's go. Justin Bell says, got married in February, and at 35, I just had my first son on October 30th. The election felt like the fight for my children's future. Bravo. Good sir. You are making the world a better place. You'd greatly appreciate. Appreciated. Brian says, I've been watching leftist channels since the election. They never say illegal immigrants or minor trans when it comes to new policies. Do you think they do that on purpose? Yes. They're lying to you for political power. Shocker.

[Phil Labonte]

I mentioned, I think today I tweeted either today or yesterday, I tweeted there are no such thing as trans kids. And all the hate that you get just for saying that, just for saying that there are no such thing as trans kids. And people are freaking out. It's like their children don't have that sense of. Of sexuality the way that adults do.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

It's so ridiculous to think that they do.

[Tim Pool]

We've gone so looney that the President United States has to come in and say, every kid is going to be assigned either male or female at birth. That's where we've gotten.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So this is the joke that I'm making to everybody because, you know, Allison And I were having a kid soon.

[Tim Pool]

And then congratulations, by the way.

[Myron Gaines]

Appreciate it, appreciate it. People are like, so do you know the gender? And I was like, I mean, well, we're not going to find out till they're at least 10. And they tell us, everyone we say that to just bust out laughing. Cuz they like, like even people who are not super political, they just bust out laughing. They know how stupid that sounds. There's a viral video where there's this non binary woman and she's talking about her cat. And then in the chat someone says, is the cat a boy or a girl? And she goes, it's a boy. And I say, how do you know? And she goes, be because of his parts. And then the chat just blows up. And they're like, like, what is wrong with you?

[Tim Pool]

Oh man.

[Myron Gaines]

All right, all right, let's grab some more. Brian says, why aren't sanctuary city mayors brought up on charges of aiding and abetting or seditious conspiracy? Conspiracy against rights. Yes, Donald Trump should.

[Tim Pool]

These sanctuary cities are illegal. They don't adhere to federal law. A lot of times with these things.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, this was something Homan was saying. He was saying that he would go after the local jails that refuse to give up the people who are on detainers. Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And as they should, like, no more federal funding. A lot of these local police departments and agencies have get federal funding.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Myron Gaines]

All right, Fox bat says. Sorry to bring him up. Bring him up again. But Pacman is at it again with lies, claiming you and right wing influencers are gleefully cheering on his subscriber loss and looking to have channels like his purged. I know, I did a video on it earlier. Earlier, man, I'm. Pacman has become. Look, I've known this guy for a long time. I tell you guys, 12 years ago he was not this smarmy, you know. You know this guy, he made a video. Bloodthirsty.

[Libby Emmons]

No idea who that is.

[Myron Gaines]

Bloodthirsty. Pro Trump influencers plan to destroy me and progressive media.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, of course.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, look, I don't have any kind of plans, but I am like happy that like people are like not listening to him as much.

[Myron Gaines]

Sure. But it's funny because the lie here is that I don't think, I'm pretty sure he doesn't show any example of anyone saying he should be banned or anything like this. And the best example I come up with is Steve Ban Bannon who literally says watch their shows. Bannon only has on MSNBC all day. He's like, I want to know what they're saying. I want to know what they're thinking, what their plans are. I want to know why they're doing this.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

None of us are saying Pacman should be banned. You're the side that's saying everybody should be allowed to have their voice and you should hear what they say so we can argue it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Like, there's people that I disagree with, like, you know, Hassan Piker, H3, et. They've, like, you know, I think that they need to have a voice, even though I disagree with them on almost everything. I think we need people on both the left and the right because we need to be able to debate these ideas in the open market. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, look, without LOL cows, where would we get our LOLs from?

[Tim Pool]

But it's funny, because people like H3, what do they do? Oh, you need to be banned. They advocate for censorship. It's always the left advocates for censorship. Crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

All right, Shipbuilding observers that saw Friday's culture war. A lib buddy of mine believed that project, the Project 2025 articles based on Walsh's tweet. Told me about it. I say it. Satire. Guy came back with the perfect cultist lib. Still trust mainstream media too much. Are you saying that he, like, broke free from that line? Matt Walsh is so good. He's. He's fantastic. You saw that. He tweeted. Now that Trump won, can we finally admit that Project 2025 was the plan?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that was funny. Yeah, I think he's the best guy. I think he's the best guy that got over Daily Wire. Now, obviously, Candace was great. Did you see her in his. Shapiro's interview with. I forget the guy's name, but he was talking about the Candace Owens situation. Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

No, but I can tell you about Matt Walsh. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's. He's great. I think he's the best guy that they got over there.

[Myron Gaines]

He's.

[Tim Pool]

But, yeah, he's.

[Myron Gaines]

Michael Knowles called him a stone cold psychopath. Because we were talking about how he's got this deadpan that when he delivers the troll, you don't know. It's just so perfectly delivered. You're like, is. Is he being serious?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Obviously when he's. When he says that, we know he's joking, but the corporate press ran with it. They were like, they've admitted it.

[Tim Pool]

And they snuck into the dnc, didn't he? Oh, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

He was wearing the liberal outfit. So Seamus was like, here's a guy who made two Movies mocking leftists who is wearing a disguise in his profile picture mocking liberals and leftists. And then he posts a satirical tweet to mock the left. And they just take it, they run with it. And I'm like, yes, the thing is, we can laugh at that, but they're happy he posted that because they're liars and they want to lie. In their minds, they're not going, whoa, he thinks it's real. Oh, no. They're thinking, this joke I can use to rile up my base and make money.

[Tim Pool]

There was another guy that was trolling at the dnc. He asked a girl, like, dictator or reproductive rights, and she like picked reproductive rights with the dictator, which is kind of comical, you know.

[Myron Gaines]

Oh, wow. Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So he said, like, would you rather have reproductive rights and a dictator or.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, or democracy. And I think she, if I'm not mistaken, I'm paraphrasing, but she basically picked a dictator for reproductive rights, which, you know, most women are single issue voters for reproductive rights in abortion. That's the whole Kamala Harris campaign.

[Myron Gaines]

Women under 30 shifted towards Trump by 11 points.

[Tim Pool]

That makes sense.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. And the joke was, I forgive the person who made it because I forgot who said it, but women buy milk and eggs more than they get abortions.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

But you know, for women under 30, they pay rent too.

[Tim Pool]

I still think we need to repeal the 19th though. But we could talk about that on the members.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, we should, because section.

[Phil Labonte]

Who was it Repealing the 19th doesn't go far enough.

[Myron Gaines]

I disagree. I disagree. But we will talk about more about it. But I think it was Rachel Wilson.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Who was like, why should a male vegan get to vote but not me.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly, exactly. It doesn't go far enough. There need to be fewer people voting.

[Tim Pool]

That loser still in the selective Service. Right. So I guess you can make that argument, but that's true.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, we will talk about that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we can talk about that.

[Myron Gaines]

We'll go nuts. On the members only. All right. Grims Wolf says Tulsi Gabbard for Secretary of Veteran Affairs. We veterans, especially as combat vets, need someone that actually cares. Tulsi gives an is about her brothers and sisters in arms. I agree. I just hope that, you know, I wanted to see Tulsi in a, in one of these better positions. I think Pete Hegseth will be great.

[Libby Emmons]

People are posting all these wild clips of him, you know, shirtless, carrying a flag at the Vietnam Vets Memorial.

[Myron Gaines]

You know, I'm even more excited for.

[Libby Emmons]

All this kind of stuff. Yeah. It's funny.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. I think it would be silly for anybody, especially libertarians. Think Trump was going to give you a dream scenario?

[Libby Emmons]

No, it's the 911 memorial. Sorry.

[Myron Gaines]

Tulsi Gabbard. RFK, advising him in any capacity is a unity transition team. That's great.

[Tim Pool]

RFK was a good pick.

[Myron Gaines]

RFK is great. I'm glad that they teamed up on this stuff and I want to see RFK in this health role. That's, that's, that's his position.

[Tim Pool]

Is it going to be FDA or hhs?

[Myron Gaines]

I think it might be hss. I'm not sure.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Myron Gaines]

I don't know. FDA would be great.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Because there's a lot of problems with FDA where like they regulate and then as they segue right into retirement, they pick up a job with the same companies that they're regulating.

[Myron Gaines]

Revolving door politics, which Trump is actually.

[Tim Pool]

Trying to get rid of that. I also like the reciprocity stuff with the guns. I'm from Florida. I'm from Florida, so I'm tired of going to New York and California. Can't carry.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, for that to happen, there has to be a bill. And apparently all of the people that are, that are possibly going to be the Senate majority leaders, they've said that they would, they would actually move that bill along. So the House.

[Tim Pool]

Good.

[Phil Labonte]

If you can get that bill started in the senator, in the House. National reciprocity. And there's precedent for it because everybody accepts driver's licenses and everybody accepts marriage licenses. The right to keep and bear arms is not a second class right. The Supreme Court has made that absolutely clear. So there's precedent for this. And the Supreme Court has had made decisions on this. It should be that if you get a license in one state, it must be accepted by other states.

[Libby Emmons]

What about, what about when they start instituting the real ID of gun licenses?

[Phil Labonte]

No, no, I don't think that there needs to be a federal license. All you need is.

[Libby Emmons]

I didn't think there needed to be a federal driver's license either. But when I went to get my license renewed, I ended up with the federal real id.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I, I think that, I think the real ID is a bad idea. In New Hampshire, you don't have to have one. I still, there's still.

[Libby Emmons]

If you, if you want to fly as of March, I. Well, they haven't instituted it yet. Right. They keep pushing it off, but it's supposed to be implemented in 2025.

[Tim Pool]

When it comes to guns, I don't. It's a Federal thing. It should be. You should be able to travel with your gun interstate. That's absolutely ridiculous that you.

[Libby Emmons]

Because my point, My point is don't you think that they would find a way to federally regulate it at some point?

[Myron Gaines]

Point what?

[Libby Emmons]

The gun. Whether or not you think it's a good idea that it should be federally regulated once.

[Tim Pool]

They already are when you purchase.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no. There's no federal regulation on the only. The only.

[Tim Pool]

When you purchase.

[Phil Labonte]

Listen, the only firearms that are federally regulated are things that are covered under the nfa. There are no federal regulations outside of.

[Libby Emmons]

The NFA until you start trying to bring them to New York City.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, that state.

[Libby Emmons]

I know but what I'm saying is the federal government will get involved. The more freedom you want for your.

[Phil Labonte]

Listen, there is already. Listen, there is already precedent. The Supreme Court has made decisions on this. There is no need for any federal involvement. Aside from saying that states must recognize other states licenses. There's. The only thing that the federal government gets involved with in marriage licenses is saying that they must be recognized. The only thing the federal government gets involved in in driver's license is saying they must be recognized. Now the federal government does have the, the have influence over the interstate, but that's it. Otherwise if you have a Massachusetts license or if you have a New Hampshire license or whatever and you go to another state, they can't tell you oh that driver's license isn't good here. And that's all. That's the only thing that you need for reciprocity. If you have a license from one state, another state and not tell you no, we don't accept it. It does. The federal government doesn't need to get involved.

[Tim Pool]

That's actually ridiculous because it's like absolutely Florida, you go to Georgia with your gun but then you can't go to New York. That's absolutely ridiculous.

[Myron Gaines]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

There's reciprocity in every single other type of. Of, of. Well, not every single other but multiple other license licensing. There's the federal government or other states accept them there. There is a supreme. The Supreme Court has decided that has made it clear that the second Amendment is not a second class.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Right. That they can regulate it but that's. They can't say that you. There is no option to say you can't carry a gun there. The whole country is shall issue now. So if you have a, a license from the state that you live in or from one state, it should, it, it should be recognized by every other state.

[Tim Pool]

Shouldn't be impeding your Second Amendment right.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

That's the problem. Literally impeding your second amendment right.

[Phil Labonte]

It's infringing on a right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

If you have a life license, they should be able. If they want to say you have to have a license, which I personally am not all that big of a fan of, but if they. They're going to say you have to have a license, that license should be. Should be. It must. It should be that the other states must recognize that we must resist in.

[Myron Gaines]

Every way imaginable the pardoning of Hunter Biden. We cannot allow Joe or Kamala to pardon Hunter Biden. You know why? He needs to file a lawsuit over the gun charge and win.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, I see what you mean. All right.

[Myron Gaines]

He needs to win this.

[Tim Pool]

I was figuring.

[Libby Emmons]

Why.

[Tim Pool]

Why are you. Okay, I see what you mean.

[Myron Gaines]

Those that don't know Hunter Biden bought a gun, they asked him a question. Are you an illicit drug user? He put, no. They charged him saying, sure you were. That means he's self incriminated. But this lawsuit, if the Supreme Court rules broadly, they could outright be like, the government has no right to ask you anything before you buy a gun, as it's a right and they can't put restrictions. Now, I doubt it because Kavanaugh is kind of weak on this. And he was like, no, it's okay. There are a lot to put restrictions.

[Tim Pool]

But I, I could talk about this in detail. There's nine different restrictions. It's 18 USC 922. So that is the. Because I used to charge this all the time on people.

[Myron Gaines]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. When I was on the job, but like, yeah, being a convicted felon, denouncing your. Your citizenship, dishonorable discharge, drug user. But he qualified under the wine, one of the nine prohibited person classes, and that's why he's a drug dealer. User.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Federal.

[Myron Gaines]

I agree largely with the two way community that this is self incrimination, which we have a right against self incrimination. The government can't ask you if you've committed a crime to restrict your rights. If the government wants to curtail your rights, there is a due process system coming out being like, okay, we can lock you in a box if you break the law. Did you break the law? Yes. Okay, get in the box. No, no. That's not how it works. When, if the government comes here and said, you break the law, you can be like, I plead the fifth. So when they come to you and say, do you want to buy a gun? I plead the fifth. Here's. Here's what?

[Tim Pool]

Well, they'll find out when they do their NCIC checks anyway.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, that's what I'm saying. If he wins, it gets rid of.

[Tim Pool]

The NCIS NCNC checks, so they won't do background checks anymore.

[Myron Gaines]

What I'm saying is on the gun.

[Tim Pool]

On the, on the guy.

[Myron Gaines]

The Knicks background check asks you to self incriminate Hunter Biden. That's what he's being charged for.

[Libby Emmons]

So you're.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he lied on the form. He lied on the form. He lied in the ATF form when he purchased the firearm.

[Myron Gaines]

And argue to the Supreme Court, you cannot force me to self incriminate. I have a right to keep and bear arms. You cannot deny me that right without due process, and you cannot force me to self incriminate. You have to prove I've committed something wrong through due process with a, with an adversarial court and a jury of my peers, then you are allowed to curtail my rights. Until then, you can't force me to say on a, on a piece of paper that I'm committing crime times that would result in my, in my suspension of my rights. I want him to win that case. If they pardon him, it'll never happen.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting.

[Myron Gaines]

Right. And so he needs to win. He needs to sue to the Supreme Court. And that could actually, like, largely.

[Tim Pool]

So you. So you're not. So you're against background checks before you purchase guns.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm not necessarily against. Well, I'd say largely, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Largely you're against background checks. Okay.

[Myron Gaines]

So to a certain degree, background checks, I think are okay. But the, the problem is not whether I think we should have background checks. It's that it is a right enshrined in the Constitution. That is. I shouldn't say that. I'm trying to be careful. It is a God given inalienable right, unalienable right to defend yourself and to keep and bear arms. And the Constitution protect. Protects you from the government. The government is infringing upon our rights in any means. When they say we have to dance around this, that or otherwise to own a weapon. Kavanaugh is wrong. Kavanaugh agreed with the NFA when. And they had a ruling. I can't remember exactly what. It was a while ago where he was basically like, no, no, it's totally fine. I think it's a New York case. It's totally. He said they have to issue permits. These states that will say you can get a permit but never actually issue one are in violation of the law. So now all states shall Be shall issue, not may issue. And that was a big ruling. But then he said still permitting should be required. If they want to require permits, they can. And I say bs. I don't need to get permission from the state to exercise my rights. The government cannot infringe upon my rights. And by requiring permitting and background checks as an infringement, if you've got a problem with it, amend the Constitution. Now, I personally don't think people should have nuclear weapons. But guess what? The Constitution protects your right to keep in bear arm. Keep in bear arms. That includes biological weapons, nuclear weapons, all of it. And that's why private companies are able to fill out a form with their, with their ff, else that they're going to do have nuclear weapons. It's regulated greatly. But I do not accept that. At some point we all just went, yeah, but nukes are bad, therefore the government should have the right over us. No, no, no, no, no, no. If you got a problem with nukes, and I do, the appropriate response is Congress drafts an amendment and says, no individual shall own a nuclear device, a weapon of mass destruction, as you know, as quantified as a device that could take the lives of more than X amount of people in a short period of time, whatever that may be, biological or otherwise. And then we can amend the Constitution and say, you have a right to keep bear arms. Doesn't include nukes. But you cannot just go, well, we're going to let the government take that right away from us without, say, of the people. That's insane. So anyway, Hunter Biden needs to win and then background checks, you know, will see.

[Libby Emmons]

Do you really think that he has the fortitude to bring a Supreme Court case?

[Myron Gaines]

No, I think they'll pardon him and we'll never see it. And they're going to pardon him because they're like, hey, we will lose bigly if you sue over this. Your only way out is a pardon. So maybe Joe Biden steps down, puts Kamala Harris in.

[Tim Pool]

I did. I, I think Trump might, I think Trump might par. Pardon him. I mean, he's mentioned he's, he's, he's, he kind of flirted with the idea of pardoning him.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, he didn't have the stomach to jail Hillary Clinton. I think he would. I think he.

[Myron Gaines]

Let's grab. This one's important. We only got a little bit left. Zach Matisse says, Tim, Tim, you. The quartering Daily Wire and Rogan should buy MSNBC miscellaneous shows with news broadcasts and culture make TV great again. There's no point. I don't know how long they have left on their carrier contract? Probably a long time. That's guaranteed revenue from the cable contracts that is transferring over now to these services. Like, I'm not going to name them because I don't know which ones they're on. But now you've got those Internet package deals where you get cable channels over the Internet, Internet, you'll get a guaranteed revenue. That's going to set the bench for how much msnbc, MSNBC is going to cost. But why would anyone buy msnbc? Their audience is in the gutter. They make no money. They're, they're dying. Jeremy Boring tweeted. You know, should I do I have to buy this? It's a joke. Because if you bought it, what little audience is left is gone. You make no money. And then why would you try and get your audience to go there if you've already got your audience somewhere else? So MSNBC is just going to, if you know what I mean. All right, everybody, smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with everyone you know. Go to timcast.com right now. Click, Join us. Become a member. Because that members only show is coming up in about a minute and it's going to get a little spicy. We're going to talk a bit more about all this dating stuff, getting details on, on the nitty gritty of what's going on and we'll argue with Libby a little bit more. It's fun. So also you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. And Myron, you want to try anything out, check me out.

[Tim Pool]

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[Libby Emmons]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

We will see.

[Libby Emmons]

You got me in trouble in the left lane.

[Myron Gaines]

Oh, man. All right, everybody, we will see you all [e-mail] in about one minute. Thanks for hanging out.