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Doing good.
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That's great. Welcome to the show, everybody. So billionaires resigned from the board. He was the chairman of the Hyde Hotels and he's the cousin of J.B. pritzker. Because of his Epstein ties. The emails came out and revealed. Oh, and now we're starting to see the blowback. More emails are getting released and there are a lot of questions. Plus there's an alleged list of names. But the Trump administration has released the Epstein name list and a bunch of people on the right have blasted these out saying, here we go, we got the list of names. And it's not a list of anything. It doesn't accuse anybody of anything. Some of these names that are mentioned are men are in it. Because it's like I went to a party at this person's house and it's completely unrelated to anything related Epstein. But we are seeing people now start to deal with the blowback. And I will say this, the Epstein files are revealing that. I would, I would argue that for the most part, it was all true. And when these prominent elites, when people in the FBI, for instance, people that we know were saying, no, no, there's nothing to see here, there indeed is something to see here. And I got to tell you, when Pam Bondi went at that, went to that hearing and was like, but the dow is at 50,000, I was like, that's great. We're allowed to care about two things at once. Right now we're talking about the children who are being trafficked to an island and not the economy, which is good. And you at the DOJ have nothing to do with that. So can we now talk about the criminals who are not being held accountable? When I look at this story, I see a guy, he's like 75 years old. What does he really care, right? But he's part of this massively wealthy, wealthy family, which includes he's the cousin of Illinois Governor JP Pritzker. So very weird. Very, very weird stuff. And we're talking about that. Plus the jerky conspiracy theory, where in these emails Epstein's talking about jerky and people are claiming that he's eating people. Eating people jerky. So we'll talk about that. And then probably my favorite slow news day, front news, front page story came from Newsweek, where for seemingly no reason or probably because there's no news, they decided to run a story that Trump was going to announce aliens are real. I wonder if this has something to do with the fact that Obama jumped the gun and said aliens are real. There's been this rumor now for the past couple of weeks that Trump is going to hold some kind of press conference or a State of the Union address where he says, we have proof that aliens exist or something like that. And Obama then comes out on this liberal podcast and he goes, yeah, they're real. And maybe he just didn't want Trump to steal his thunder. But of course, Obama is now walking this back, so we'll talk about that. Plus, we have a bunch of other stories. AOC is getting roasted because she said Venezuela is below the equator, which it's. It isn't. And I wonder if this whole thing that she was doing was. It was an attempt to kind of like show that she had foreign policy chops because she wants to run for president. But she has only indeed shown that she has no idea what she's talking about. So we're gonna get into all of that and more. My friends, before we get started, we got a great sponsor for you. It is Field of Greens from Brick House Nutrition. Check it out, my friends. Check it out. Most people don't look forward to their annual physical because they're nervous what their doctor might find. That's why what you do before the appointment matters. So before your next checkup, make the only. Make the one health change that your doctors should notice or your money back. Make it Field of Greens. Doctors today look beyond your calendar age, looking at biological age how healthy your cells and vital organs are. Field of Greens was designed with that in mind. Each fruit and vegetable is doctor selected to support your cells, heart, lungs, kidneys and healthy weight. In fact, university study found that participants who only added Field of Green saw measurable improvements in key health markers. Just one change changed everything. That's why Field of Greens promises your Doctor will notice your improved health or your money back. Get into your next physical. Confident. One scoop once a day. Done. Make field of greens your one smart change this year. Check out the university study and get 20 off at fieldofgreens.com promo code Tim. That's fieldofgreens.com promo Code Tim. And legit. We got. This is my favorite, strawberry lemonade. It's legit. Really, really good. I drink it before I skate, so definitely check it out. Thanks for sponsoring the show, guys. And don't Forget, go to cast brew.com and get Dr. Alex Stein's big Booty Latina love potion. Alex Stein is not a doctor. It is guaranteed to spice things up in the betterment. It is not guaranteed to spice things up in the better. Alex Stein. This is a tremendous product. Tell me about it.
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Well, first we have to talk about how I'm brutally beanie mogging you right now. And why is your beanie communist. Why don't you have an American themed beanie?
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You don't want to talk about how you've just been brutally beanie mogged.
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Beanie mogged.
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Beanie mogged. Yes. You know what they don't see? This is what pisses me off, Tim. You act like you don't know what that means. You're gesture maxing, and I'm not okay with it. Okay, because my cortisol spiking I'm not trying to do that. So just admit that you got defeated. I have a more patriotic beanie. Yours is kind of more CCP style. Oh, I mean, you're telling me that. Do you think your beanie is better than my beanie?
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Why would you say that? Okay, let's. Let's.
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If your beanies. If you've been so much better, how come you don't wear it all the time?
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Well, because it kind of hurts my head. I have a triple XL head, so I didn't fit in it very well. But my point is, look at the pizzazz. Look at the patriotism. Mind shows.
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You're. What are you, you're hosting a new show or something?
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After hours with Alex Steiner. Real America's voice. It's incredible. So they got a great DC studio. I filmed my show there. It airs tonight right after this show and.
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But you're based in D.C. now.
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No, but I was just using their studio because I came on your show. Actually, they built me a studio in Dallas. They do it all remote. It's really great. I love Parker and Robert Sig. They own the company. Parker's Robert's son and he's like, it's a real family owned business.
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It's good.
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A lot of people work.
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Always, always glad to have a serious intellect to come on the show. We're always looking forward to your keen insights and serious how they're eating babies.
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And how they're eating children. And you laughed at me. You laughed at my jer slew thing that I found through asmongold who has millions of views, but it doesn't matter. They are literally eating the flesh of humans. And I, I don't think it's a joke. And so I was right about Pizzagate. I mean they're all doing child sex trafficking. You know, they called us crazy in 2016. I called into Howard Stern show. He's like, oh, you're wrong, you're wrong. Boom. I was right.
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Did he apologize to you?
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Oh, he should. He owes me an apology. You can look that clip up anywhere.
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But did he quit or. He's still around.
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He's still around. But he only does. This has got to stop two days a week. And he supposed.
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Well, anyway, five, isn't he?
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A lot. A lot is here.
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New media company Real America's voice? They're not that new. Charlie has a show there.
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Okay. Real America.
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I mean, people sometimes think of one America News Network because they both have America in it. But no, they've been out for a while. They're crushing it.
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Isn't Brian Glenn over there too?
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Brian's over there.
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Yeah.
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Brian Glenn's hostage morning show. Brian's a man, so he's wonderful.
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Anyway, Phil.
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Hello, everybody.
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My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains on Anti Communist and Counter Revolutionary. We can go ahead and talk about Alex Stein's too.
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Well, actually, we've got Carter pressing the buttons.
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Oh, yeah, look at Carter. What's up, everyone?
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Carter Banks here and I'm hanging out.
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And producing the show. Excited to be here.
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All right, let's talk about news, cuz. Amen. It's about time. From cnbc. Hyatt Chairman Pritzker leaves board over Epstein ties. Big news from cnbc. They say Pritzker will leave his post as the hotel chain's executive chairman, a role he's held for more than two decades. Immediately, he said. In a statement released by the Pritzker organization, the 75 year old billionaire Hyatt Air said he would not seek re election to the board at the annual stockholder meeting. My job and responsibilities provide good stewardship. That is something. To me, good stewardship includes ensuring a proper transition at Hyatt. Pritzker said he has regret over his connection to Epstein and his accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell. So we know about what Epstein did. Like, you know, the claims. We also know that the media covered it all up, lied about it, suppressed the story, pretended like it wasn't happening, and called us all crazy for suggesting that it was true. Recently released files show Pritzker and Epstein exchanged friendly emails after the disgraced financier's plea deal. Being part of the release of thousands of documents and photos does not imply any wrongdoing. Thanks for pointing that out, cnbc. Why did you need to say that? See, here's the truth. These powerful individuals were flying around on a plane with underage girls who were supposedly masseuses, but they were actually doing other things. And we've got numerous victims who. And it's funny because there are a lot of Trump supporters that have come out being like, this woman claimed that she never did anything untoward, but now she's claiming she did. And I'm like, yes. Is it possible that in 2015 these women didn't want to admit that they were child prostitutes? And now that Epstein's been uncovered and exposed, they're saying, actually those claims are all true, and I'm now going to admit it. So I think it's fair to say, certainly call into question some of the statements. Maybe there's some women trying to cash in on being a victim or whatever. But just read the emails and look at the conviction. He took a sweetheart plea deal because Epstein was bringing on underage girls to his plane into his island as masseuses. And they were doing. They were hookers, basically. They were child prostitutes being brought in. So I love how every step of the way, the media has tried to protect these individuals. And I'm not going to cut Trump any slack, because Trump was like, oh, it's a hoax, it's a hoax. Now we're reading these emails and we're going like, oh, my. There's videos, Alex. You know there are videos of children bathing that Epstein in the Epstein files.
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Yeah.
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And they said they were like, well, you know, it's uncorroborated. Yeah, it's really weird that Epstein had children come to his island and there's videos of underage kids. They censored the videos, mind you, but there is a lot of. Let me just. I would describe it as massive piles upon piles of circumstantial evidence, which makes me wonder what hard evidence they're. They're retracting. There was one email that I showed on Twitter where Epstein emailed somebody. We don't know who, because they redacted it. And he simply said the word pizza. And is it. Is that. Is that. I'm sorry, I just have questions about why they redacted the email of a person simply because he said pizza to him. Now, listen, I'm not going to sit here and say I know exactly the intent of that email. I don't. But when you redact the recipient's email, then people start saying, why? What about that? Now, I will stress, a lot of the Pizzagate stuff was, I believe, fake news people were making. I say fake news in the playful sense. Like, not like it was literally fake stories, but people were adding things to it that weren't true or were conjecture. But what is true is that CP is child abuse material and it's referred to as cheese pizza. So when you have someone like Epstein, who is literally convicted of stuff like this, emailing people these terms, you kind of say, I think we know what the intention was in the redaction, but there's plenty more emails. I know that. That, you know, Alex, you've seen a bunch of it.
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Well, you know, you're kind of teasing me a little bit because we are talking about jerky. And just you look at the way that they use these emails. They're not talking like they're ordering pizza. Like they're speaking in clearly coded language. So, I mean, it just looks like it's obvious that they're doing stuff to kids. We knew this. And then when you talk about the child porn, that's a one thing. I think Pambani's told the truth about saying that there was a ton of child porn and that's why it took so long for them to unredact them so we could see them. So, yes. If you think that, you know, it's just bad that they were raping kids. I don't know if I should say that word. Sorry. They were doing a lot worse with CP and trading that like a currency. It's disgusting, but we all know it's true.
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Let's add an allegedly to that. One of my issues.
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What's allegedly?
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Everything to everything.
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He just said they're trading cp. You don't think they're trading cp?
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Who is they?
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Like Epstein to.
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Hold on. Pam Bondi said they. They were.
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Yeah, sure. He said that they had cp, like, tons of it.
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That's why they weren't going to release the files.
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That's exactly what she said.
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I think when it comes to the Epstein files, people are running fast and loose with the truth. And that's why people like CNBC feel the need to say that being part of the release of thousands of documents and photos does not imply any wrongdoing. Because if you are. If you were even referenced in the files, it's a guilt by association. And it feels as though there is a witch. Witch hunt, some would argue more deservedly. Obviously, everybody who is accused or involved in any child abuse should be, you know, charged, indicted, and charged to the fullest extent of the law. But I feel like the threshold for that evidence has become lower and lower.
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Oh, let me.
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Let me get.
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Wait, wait. There's one more thing I want to add to that.
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I play devil's advocate all the time. I'm just surprised. No, but what's the topic that you would like to play devil's advocate on? Bro, It's.
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It's.
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Listen, like, very weird.
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No, I want to be bro, bro, but my whole thing with Trump was the. Stop making me defend Trump because they kept lying about him. I have no problem praising Trump. I voted for the guy twice. I want him to Succeed. But come on, Trump screwed up. The DOJ screwed this up. The FBI screwed this up. They have done a miserable job on the release of the Epstein files. I will give them credit for releasing it now. But Pam Bondi at the hearing being like, the dow is at 50,000. I was nice. A bunch of other people, let me tell you. I know I can get a million views if I pound my fist at the hip and scream, pam Bondi, you did bad. But I'm trying to be nice because they are still releasing files. But it's when she comes out and she's like, the dows at 50,000. I was like, that's really great. Thank you. And now onto the other thing. We care about which two things we can, we can talk about. You know, we can care about two different things.
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Well, you do need to mention it dropped below 50,000 literally the next day. Yeah, you see that?
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I mean, yeah, but the point is, she's going like, we should be talking about the economy. It's, it's my response to that. This is the problem. I'm a criticize Thomas Massie a little bit too, because I'm a big fan of the guy. I consider he's my favorite member of Congress. But he's yelling at her, saying, we caught you red handed. And I'm just like, listen, there was a, there was ample opportunity to respond to Pam Bondi and just be like, thank you. You know, Secretary Bondi. Or she's secretary.
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Right.
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Ag.
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Ag. I'm sorry, Attorney General Bondi. I appreciate that. It is fantastic work. Thank you. It is true, the economy right now has some great indicators. Now, anyway, we were talking about something specific because the people can be happy about the economy and upset about the Epstein trafficking stuff too.
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I mean, I, I would hope that the DOJ has, has started at least investigations on these people, like the people that are accused and because if they have the files that are non redacted.
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Right.
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They should be building cases to go and prosecute. You know, that's kind of like where we're at now. It's like there's, there's all kinds of talk about who is and isn't in the file, but files and stuff. But it's like, look, the DOJ's job is to prosecute people for wrongdoing. So if they have the names, they should be building cases and they should be looking to arrest people.
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Yeah, but it's really not that hard. I mean, you could look at Les Wexner. There's the guy that gave him the Residence in New York. Like if they don't charge him, which I know now they're saying they opened up an investigation. I don't think anybody's going to go to jail because he was basically his right hand man or Jeffrey was his right hand man, if you want to use that analogy. And I think that he would have blood on his hand. So if he does not go down, if we don't perp walk, at least Les Wexner. And this is all alleged. I don't want to get sued by him, but looks like his connection to Epstein is indisputable.
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And I do think there's a lot of insanity. You know, there are people who are making the craziest claims imaginable based on the lightest of conjecture. A good example of what I'm trying to say is the easiest example that I brought several times. One of the Epstein files comes from a phone tip to the FBI. A woman claiming she was a victim of sex trafficking. And she was. She was 13 when she was trafficked and she was on the island when Tony Hawk got married. The only issue is Tony Hawk didn't get married on the island. It seems to be a fabricated story.
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To the FBI, to the island at all.
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No, like Tony Hawk is so far removed from Epstein, it's ludicrous. So what happens is there's an action sports photographer whose name is Mark Epstein, completely unrelated to Jeffrey. Jeffrey has a brother named Mark Epstein. And so when Tony Hawk got married in Fiji, Mark Epstein, the action sports photographer, was taking photos of it. This is Getty Images and apparently this was on MTV at the time. Someone presumably saw this, assumed Mark Epstein who took the photos was related to Jeffrey and then thought they could lie and claim Tony Hawk was there and the FBI would buy it. Something like that. And so now there are these articles flying around saying Tony Hawk caught with, you know, underage trafficking victims. It's completely fake. And that I can respect when there was concerns about releasing all the files because there would be this kind of blowback on innocent people. Completely unrelated. Amy Schumer is in the files. So in the list of names that the DOJ dropped, Amy Schumer is one of them. Amy Schumer named in the Epstein files.
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She probably would eat a kid, but I mean.
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Yeah, but that's. That, that's more of her eating. More of her eating disorder.
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She's just hungry. Yeah, she's just hungry.
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I do think it's a little bit of a liable.
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She did Ozempic though, didn't she?
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For the president with Howard Lutnick, as far as he goes. Secretary of Commerce, I believe, because he denied, he said that he cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein. But then after he alleged to have cut ties, he visited Epstein island again, allegedly.
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With his family.
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With his family. And this is after 2008, when he was convicted of a few different. I believe he was given a sweetheart deal in Florida. But it was well known after 2008, the 2008 conviction, that he was involved in these sort of conflict. Children.
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He had 700 employees die in 9 11. And he happened to not be at work that day.
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What do you mean? Like, was he supposed to be?
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He might have had prior knowledge, you.
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Know, Was he supposed to be.
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Yeah, yeah. He had a company of 700.
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Yes, but doesn't mean he was there every day.
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Just like Larry Silverson.
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Like.
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Like he showed up every day.
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Could you imagine if it was like a Sunday here? I'm like, I'm not here. And then, like, the building burned down. Like, how strange. Tim wasn't at work, like, well, I know.
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I'm just asking questions. I don't know. Did he get a text message from somebody saying these towers are gonna go down? I don't know. But I do know that Condoleezza Rice and George Bush were both briefed that there's a guy in Afghanistan and Osama. Osama bin Laden that wanted to fly planes into buildings. But maybe he got that brief, I don't know. But he was not at work that day.
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Let's jump to this story to appease our friend Alex Stein. This is from Times Now News. Epstein Jerky. What it means and how it fueled cannibalism and ritualistic sacrifice claims. The U.S. department of justice released more than 3 million documents recently in which a 2019 interview between FBI officials and anonymous man speaks about ritualistic sacrifice aboard Epstein's yacht in 2000. They say when the. When the DOJ released more than 3 million records, blah, blah, blah, the trove quickly became fodder. We get it. The one about ritualistic sacrifice. The most graphic allegations appear in summaries of reported 2019 interview. In one version of the interview, an agent concluded the claims did not warrant further investigative resources. The DOJ files also note the man did not allege cannibalism during the interview, though he claimed the individuals consumed human feces. The FBI declined to comment when asked why the allegations were not pursued. Despite that, the words cannibal and cannibalism appear dozens of times elsewhere in the document collection. A search of the Epstein Library shows 52 mentions of cannibal and 6 of cannibalism according to Snopes. None of those references however connect Epstein's to cannibalistic acts. Some appear in unrelated context, media summaries, academic syllabus. We don't need to include those. But there was a conversation about eating jerky and Alex believes that is a reference to people.
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I know it is.
A
Why?
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Because they cannot say this. That's why they use coded language. Obviously they can't just be in the email.
A
What did they say?
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That 13 year old girl tasted so good. Yum. They're not going to say that. But the way that they talked about jerky in these emails. There's an email where it's like, oh yeah, he's going to stop eating so much jerky and start eating regular food again. You just got to go through the emails. I mean you can take.
A
So do you think Ellen DeGeneres is cannibal?
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Probably yes. It actually pull up Ellen DeGeneres.
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They found a code word for human meat.
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Wait, what?
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I hope you are feeling better. Did we analyze the jerky? Why didn't we get jerky this week? I also added more to the jerky and ginger lemongrass. Thank you so much. Super cool beef jerky. Delicious. Jojo is here and we'll walk the jerky over to Jeffrey. Will walk the jerky over to Jeffrey. Why would jerky walk around? Why would it do that? Delicious lunch beef jerky.
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Mmm.
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Steve and I are very grateful above all for your friendship. Some of these emails are so wholesome, aren't they? It's too bad they eat kids. A small insulated bag would be fine. I don't ruin checking it. No need for crazy amounts of ice. One should do. There is one bag of beef jerky in the fridge. Please get it. Also Blank has more at her place, but please get it from her as well. I suppose it needs to be in a cold insulated bag. Just wanted to touch base about jerky. Je said he was going to start eating regular food again so he might be eating less jerky. He said he has six bags of it in a downstairs freezer. Why would you freeze jerky? Steve needs a six to eight ounce portion of jerky. I gave you all the jerky we had and it lasted only half the amount of time it was meant to. I felt like it was more important for you to have the jerky.
A
It sounds like they're eating people, bro.
B
Yes, yes. Listen to the last one. He's like oh, I thought it'd be More important for you to have the jerky than me. If it's just normal jerky, you go to cvs, you can buy unlimited Jack Links. Beef jerky. So why is it more important for that person to have it unless it's some sort of commodity?
A
And not only that, here's the email. They redacted the to and from.
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Why did they redact it?
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Je said he was gonna start eating regular food again, so he might be eating less jerky.
B
Why is it illegal to send an email about jerky? Tim, answer that question. Is it a crime to say, if I send you an email about jerky, would they redact that? No, but it's because the FBI knows they're talking about children, and so they're.
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Not gonna be like, oh, hold on, hold on.
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This is your smoking gun. It's pathetic. This is.
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You don't need a smoking gun because there's people like Jimmy Seville and that. I know that they do. It's called sra. Satanic ritualistic abuse.
A
Wait, hold on. Here's. Here's an. Here's another one. We have no idea where it came from. It was sent to Epstein Francis has time to come tomorrow to show me how to make it. Jerky class, anyone? He will also bring you a taste of his new jerky recipe from the restaurant and sends a warm hello. He's working at a restaurant called Cannibal and cooks. Wait for it. Beef jerky and steak. He has time at 3pm tomorrow, if it's okay with you.
C
Tim, these sounds like they could be your emails about beef jerky.
B
They do not. I don't, like, sound like his emails.
D
Dude, there's enough there to make people be like, what's going on here? To be honest with you.
C
Like, sure, it's an odd email exchange, but I don't know if this is indicative of child sacrifice. Maybe I'm the moron.
B
Okay, Think about how prevalent abortion is. We know that Planned Parenthood has been caught. There's been people from Planned Parenthood caught with, you know, baby parts. So there is a. Whether you want to believe it or not, there is a black market for dead baby parts. Babies, dead bodies, and, you know, China. I'm not saying they're into it, but they also, like, supposedly, you know, get hostages and they'll take a livery, like, you can buy a heart in China. You can't do that here in America.
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There was an FBI interview of one of the purported.
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Victims. They were saying things like, while on his yacht, he witnessed African American Americans and males having sex with white blonde females, all of whom were bleeding during the intercourse. He was a victim of a type of ritualistic sacrifice in which his feet were cut with a scimitar but left no scarring. On the yacht, he witnessed babies being dismembered, their intest removed, and individuals eating the feces from these intestines. It was also raped by George Bush. One.
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These are all.
D
I mean, these are just allegations from a quick.
B
If they admit that they would eat human feces, you don't think they would eat human meat? They would eat human.
A
Wait, wait, wait.
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This is alleged from an interview.
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Our redacted name says Rachel. The people on the island are telling me Jeffrey didn't like the last batch of jerky that Steve sent to him. Not sure if it's too late to stop the shipment.
B
Why would you need to stop the shipment if it's beef jerky that you can get at the grocery store?
C
Because it's special jerky.
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Tim knows.
C
You could get special jerky. I've had Tim's special jerky.
B
No, you have not. Dude, shut up. A lot. You've not had any.
C
I think the issue.
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Wait, wait, Wa. Hold on, hold on. I think we have. I think we have kangaroo jerky in there.
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And then Tim complains, no, this jerky sucks. Stop that shipment. Stop that shipment. We don't want more of that shitty jerky.
A
No, no, no, no. Hold on. The exotic jerky that I have is from western Maryland. When I went to a. There's, like, this lake, and there was a. There's a jerky store that sold a whole bunch of different kinds of jerky, not one of which was human children, in fact, but they did have a good variety.
B
Okay, Just because they're eating children doesn't mean that jerk doesn't also exist.
A
Hold on, hold on, hold on. I mean, no. What if they're not eating children, though? It sounds like they're eating something untoward. It may be people. I don't know. But the issue that I take is, I think it's fair to say this is weird. They're doing something. But when you jump the gun and say they're eating children, it makes people think you're nuts.
B
What if I told you that everybody in this room has eaten human beings before? You're gonna say, that's impossible. But in meat processing plants, they've Went and tested the meat, and there has been issues where there's human DNA in it.
A
Like, because.
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Because, like, cut their hand or something and got in the meat. So.
A
Yeah, but. Or because, like, like a. A guy named Juan who's supposed to clean the vet. Trips and falls.
C
Exactly.
B
Sweaty. That's what I'm saying. So in a way, we've all eaten human.
D
In a way. You know, if you think long and hard.
A
You ever hear the story about the guy there was, like, a tuna vet and he went inside to clean it out? No. And the other guy pressed the button and closed it and cooked him alive. And he was in there.
D
Oh, intentionally. He was murdered.
B
Yeah.
D
Yeah.
B
Cooked. Yeah.
A
Cooked alive.
C
The biggest.
A
So. So. So, again, like, what if. What if they're, like. It is weird when. Say, they're gonna walk the jerky because you can't. You know what I mean?
C
I think they meant they walk the bag of jerky.
B
What does it mean? That he's gonna start eating.
A
Right, Right. I'm gonna walk the jerky over. Like, I'm carrying it.
C
Tim, I'll bring you. I'll walk the jerky over to you. Yeah, we just got an order for you. Yeah, I'll walk it over to Tim.
A
Yeah.
C
And then Tim doesn't want more of the shipment of jerky because he didn't like the jerky.
A
Yeah, because if they put celery salt or, like, fennel on it, get it out of here with that car.
B
And what about the weird email where it says, oh, he's gonna start eating regular food. As if in the email, he's like, oh, he's gonna start eating less jerky and more regular.
A
I. I will. I will. I will give some pushback because I had a period where I literally ate nothing but chicken wings for, like, six months.
B
That was when you were doing keto. That's a little different.
A
No, I mean, I. I was literally, like, I could have eaten a lot of other things, but I just really wanted to eat chicken wings. They're delicious.
D
Well, like, the big. I mean, go ahead. Well, it's just that, like, I just want to reiterate it. Like, at this point, there's enough information here where they need to start finding these people that are making the allegations, interviewing him, and looking to see if they can press charges.
A
Wait, wait, hold on. Here's an important one. For a lot. Beef jerky is drying. Another hour or so till it's finished. What is the best way to get it to you? One of the children that we cut up to make the jerky.
C
Maybe he was having that South African, the bull tong, where you need. You need to, like, leave it out to cure and dry.
A
Could you. I'm just imagining, like, how funny it would be if, like, on Epstein's island, there's, like, a gigantic jerking station, and they've got a whole bunch of exotic, like, legitimate beef jerkies. And then it's like, Alex is screaming. It's children. And the people. People from Epstein island are like, you have no idea. The recipe.
B
Okay, what about this?
D
I could make that.
B
200 gallons of sulfuric acid. You don't think that's.
A
Oh, bro, that was for dissolving people there.
B
What do you think that's.
A
They're one of the. One of the FBI files talked about there were two dead women buried on this ranch. Because apparently what happened was. And this is. Come on. Look, when you go to people and you say, jerky sounds like they're eating people, they're like, man, I don't know. That sounds crazy. But what do we know for a fact? Epstein was convicted for hiring underage girls as masseuses, but having them do sexual things. One of the. One of the tips was that there were two women that were hired for sexual favors, and they were. When they were doing them, Epstein and whoever else was strangling them at the same time, and they died. They panicked and then buried the women on some ranch property. That is entirely believable based on what we do know about Epstein. No, get me wrong. You can believe the stuff about the jerky and all these other crazy things, but I'm saying, like, if you go to someone and say Epstein was convicted for hiring underage prostitutes, and in one of the. One of the files, they allege two of them died during rough sex, and then Epstein and his accomplices buried the bodies. So when you hear about them buying. What was it, 200 gallons. Gallons of sulfuric acid. And what they bring to the island.
B
I think he ordered it to the island, if I remember correctly.
A
And you have to wonder why someone needs a private island in the first place. And it's because ain't nobody coming to investigate on your private island. And here's the other thing. The important thing to understand when you bring a young woman to your island, she's not going to say no because of the implication.
B
Well, and then, you know, they say, and I don't want to make.
A
That was a reference. Anybody who got it. If you don't get the reference, then.
B
You know, No, I didn't, but.
A
Well, everyone Everyone in the chat's gonna understand the reference. Well, what I'm saying is, the implication is.
B
I know some of them. I don't get it.
A
The implication, you bring a woman out to the middle of the ocean and you ask something of her and she has to say yes because of the.
B
Implication, because she's out in the middle of nowhere.
A
The implication is that you're gonna kill her. Yeah.
B
Oh, okay. Well, probably would, you know, and I'm just saying this now. They're saying you gotta look into Richard Branson because he has an island. Necker Island. N E K K E R. I don't wanna get canceled for that. And I'm not saying he's eating kids out there, but it's called Virgin Island. And then a bunch of celebrities go out there.
A
Virgin Island.
B
You know, Virgin. He owns Virgin.
C
So what are you saying? They're not eating a bunch of kids out there. But what, you're not saying that. But what are you saying?
B
I'm not saying that. They're not eating kids.
A
You know, hold on. I want to give a shout out. I want to give like a half shout out, half marks to Virgin Airlines or whatever. Was it Virgin Atlantic or something? Because I flew on them one time and you know, they do the. The safety briefing. In the safety briefing for Atlantic, they literally went, if you don't know how to put on your seatbelt, something is wrong with you. Moving on. And I started laughing and I was like, that's great. And then I guess they changed it later because the insurance company or something was like legit. You have to tell them to do this because there, there were probably people like, who didn't know how to put on a seat belt. But shout out to Atlantic for assuming general intelligence and common sense.
D
I guess overstating it.
A
I guess overstating it, indeed.
C
I think as far as a lot of this, the Epstein stuff goes, it's hard to blame people for wanting to add on all these additional maybe conspiracies onto the Epstein stuff, because originally so many people over promised and underdelivered on this story. So many people in positions of power did this. So, for example, before Cash Patel was the director of. The director of the FBI, he used to come on shows like this and bitch about the Epstein stuff and say how there are all of these lists out there. And then Jeffrey Epstein inside the jail is able to kill himself, you know, and then they've removed parts of the. Of the file, watching over it.
D
Okay, aside from the killing himself part, like. Right, like.
B
Well, we don't even know that he killed himself.
D
Hold on. Aside from that, the, that was, you know, a misstep by the FBI. But like, doesn't the release of the files kind of vindicate like all the other stuff they were saying that like all this nefarious things?
C
Well, no, because. Move. There's a few other things. Pam Bondi bringing in a bunch of influencers to make them look like a bunch of idiots. Like they were getting new stuff. But, but no, because they over promised on so much. So because they said, oh, there's this gigantic pedophile ring and then there's a of people. And it wasn't only Jeffrey Epstein who was procuring underage women with Ghislaine Maxwell. They were using this and filming, you know, famous and influential people to use this as blackmail. Not a lot of that stuff came to fruition. But because so much was over promised and underdelivered, it's hard to blame people for thinking there's more there, there.
A
I'm going to jump to this story. Ghislaine Maxwell is an imposter. You've heard the story that Epstein is alive. Perhaps maybe you believe it, maybe you don't. But the latest story is Ghislaine Maxwell recently gave a deposition. We have this from the New York Post. Watch Ghislaine Maxwell's prison video to Congress when pressed on Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. And people decided to just, I don't know, take a look at her face and they, they found out that she apparently got a nose fattening job. Yeah, because when you look at the, at a picture of Ghislaine Maxwell in the public and you compare it to the image of the Gill Maxwell in prison, you're like, okay, that's a completely different nose. It's much wider and bigger and it's a little bit more snubbed than Ghislaine Maxwell's nose that we saw in the past. So the question is, did she get a nose job to make her nose bigger? I did not know that was a thing. Maybe it is.
D
I mean you can, you can say that she gained weight, but that the nose doesn't really change.
B
I think that's a mask. I think they just put another person have one of those, they have latex masks.
A
And that's why she pleaded the fifth.
B
Exactly.
A
Wait, wait, let's play the video. Oh wait, where's the audio at? Everything's muted.
B
Respectfully declined to answer this question and any related questions. My habeas petition is pending. They put a really fat person next to her to make her look thinner.
A
Because I know she does look fat.
B
I know, but look, they put in a morbidly obese woman next to her to make her look a little skinnier.
A
Wasn't her dad like an Israeli agent or something?
B
Robert Maxwell. Yes, dude. He was a media tycoon, Owned a bunch of different businesses and never officially said that he was part of Israeli's beside. But when he died, that you can look it up, they gave him an official like he was a diplomat, like he was the highest level of their military. You know, that was a sort of send off they gave him for his.
A
Oh, it's on his Wikipedia page.
B
Yeah. So he never admitted that he worked for Israel, but they gave him an official.
A
He was Israeli.
B
Yes, but I'm saying he never admitted that he was an agent.
A
Oh, wow. They say he was buried on Jerusalem's mount. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
D
Yeah.
B
Yes, dude. Yes. He got the most significant. We got.
A
Here we go, here we go. Robert Maxwell, media proprietor. They say he was buried in Jerusalem's Mount of Olives and what has been described as a state funeral attended by much of the Israeli political establishment, including the president, prime minister and six serving and former heads of intelligence. His death triggered the collapse of his publishing empire, blah, blah, blah. Well, there you go. This is her dad.
B
Yes. So she's independently wealthy.
A
Oh, yeah, look at that, look at that. He's got the. Look at this picture of Gilliamax. Look at this picture of her.
C
She looks so different in all of these photos.
B
That is true.
C
Recognizable.
A
That's not the same person, bro.
D
Yeah, that picture on the left and the. The mug shot look the same, but then the other one.
C
All three of these are different people. In my eyes, I don't see any result.
B
Well, this is probably gonna get me canceled a little bit, but they've seen.
C
She looks nice here.
B
No, there's one where she's a lot younger. It's like she's in her 20s, like where she's at these 80s parties. And Ghislaine actually used to be hot.
C
Oh, of course. Same with Hillary Clinton.
B
I don't know if Hillary Clinton was ever hot.
C
Well, you think Max also was hot? No, no, no. Hillary Clinton was a lot hotter than Ghislaine Maxwell. Than a younger.
D
This is a point that you're never, never going to get.
A
Wait, wait, wait, wait. A lot, a lot, a lot. Chill, chill, chill. What Alex is saying is he likes Jewish ladies.
B
Kind of.
C
She does look like a nice Jewish woman.
A
There a nice.
C
It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that she's such like a. How many pedophilic creep that procured young children for Jeffrey Epstein?
A
But hold on. Like, could you. I see this picture of this woman. Could you imagine? I'm just like, for everybody out there, some friend of yours that went to high school with. And then 20 years later you find out that they, like, eight people.
D
Gross.
A
You're like, hey, remember. Remember Janet from high school? Yeah. She ate people.
B
Chrissy Teigen said on that show she wanted to eat human meat. So what should we. She was being interviewed. Yes, you can look it up. Type in Chrissy Teigen, human meat. And she makes this joke like, would you ever eat human? And this other guy's like, no.
C
And she's like, wasn't there a CNN reporter?
A
Yeah, Reza Aslan, He's a cannibal.
D
Yeah.
A
So here's. Here's what happened. Okay, hold on. I got a question. I got a question. I got a question. Reza Aslan, they were trying to be like Vice on cnn. So he went to this, like, Hindu extremist sect, and they were cooking human meat, and they handed him a piece of it. And then he was apparently scared that, okay, didn't eat it, they were going to kill him or something. So he ate the piece of human. It was like. It was like a small piece of human brain. And then I said, he's a cannibal. Yeah, I say, he's a cannibal. And I. Hold on. I had a friend. I had a friend who told me he's not a cannibal. Accountable. Someone who likes, regularly eats people. And then I said, why does that not make him accountable? Because, like, he did it one time. And I said, so if a dude, like, rapes a kid one time, he's not a pedophile? Well, that's. No, Reza Aslan is a cannibal. He ate people. That's it. He. You eat people one time, you were a cannibal forever. I don't know that Ghislaine Maxwell ate anybody, okay? I don't know that Jeffrey Epstein ate anybody. Those. Those emails sound very, very weird, but I just want to point this out. Guys, guys, I'm sorry if this makes me sound conspiratorial, but when I pull up this picture of Ghislaine Maxwell from her. From her mugshot and then the picture of the woman in that jail, that is a different person. Yeah, that is a different person.
B
And you saw Daily Mail put out the article that they used decoys when they got rid of his body from.
A
The federal prison, they admitted that to trick the press, for seemingly no reason, they stuffed a body bag full of boxes and cardboard and stuff and pillows to make it look like a body was being removed.
B
Makes no sense.
A
But it literally makes no sense.
B
Yeah. So, I mean, could he still be alive? I don't know.
A
So funny.
B
They did a ditch magazine, not even trying to shout them out. They looked into the FedEx account through the leaked emails and there is a FedEx account link to Jeffrey Epstein that has been getting packages and you can chatgpt.
A
Remember, Remember Imposter Hillary?
D
Imposter Hillary, Yeah.
A
You guys remember that?
D
No, no, there was.
A
Let me see if I can try and find it. There was a picture of Hillary Clinton, allegedly with Bill Clinton. It's probably going to be hard to find. And everybody went nuts on X being like, yo, that's not Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton body double claim. See if I can find that photo. It's hard to find. It was. This was probably like 2019 or something. I can't find it. Maybe, maybe someone else will find it on X or something. Tweeted Eddie A lot, I suppose.
B
Well, I think if you see her.
C
Coming out against like the. Our immigration policies saying like, yeah, that it was detrimental to our society or something disruptive and destabilizing. So she's becoming pretty based. So she might have been hot 30.
D
Years ago, to be honest with you. She was. She was against illegal immigration in 2008 and then she was for it and now she's against it again. Very John Kerry ask. I think it was.
C
Yeah. And I mean, her husband was a border guy.
D
Yeah.
C
Maybe the Clintons got a bad rep. Well, I mean, not going too far. Wait, wait, we forget. Bill Clinton was all over the episode.
D
By the way, all because of polling. Their internal polling shows that the illegal immigration stuff is super unpopular. Multiple Democrats have pivoted on this because of the fact that their internal poll polling is absolutely catastrophic about this stuff. Americans do not want the border open and they don't want illegal aliens coming to the country and voting and stuff.
A
So there's actually a bunch of these like this from 2016.
B
Hillary definitely has a body double. 10.
A
Well, every world leader does. Okay, here's the thing. When we talk about like Joe Biden having a body double or Hillary Clinton having a body double, the media says you're, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist. Then they say Saddam Hussein like five. Vladimir Putin has like seven.
B
I've had more than five.
A
But if you Were a world leader. World leader, wouldn't you want a body double?
B
Yes. Yes.
A
Because people are trying to kill you. You know what I mean? That's why. That's why every night after the show. Eli doesn't understand this, but I asked him if he wants to wear my shirt and wear the beanie just to make him feel better. He's like this, thank you, Tim. And then he walks out in front of me. I walk 20ft behind him.
C
Well, I think anybody can confuse me for him.
B
Well, I did ask a lot if he was a skater and he was like, no, I don't skate. And he does kind of copy your swag a little bit. I just want to. He's kind of swagger jacking you a.
C
Little, so you should probably swag in my copy.
A
I love this post from R. Conspiracy. This is not the same person. I'm sorry?
B
That is not the same person.
A
It's not the same person.
D
Very different. The jawline is very different. The chin might be the same.
C
Cheeks are like.
A
They're like, let's find some old fat lady and give her short black hair and call her Ghislaine. And you're like, that'll work.
B
Look up the masks that are that, like. It's like super realism masks. You can see they can do that. They can make us look like Walter White.
A
They don't need Bro. Bro. Yes, you're right. But they don't need to. They can literally just take some random lady.
B
I don't know, like, he.
A
You want, you want. You want a million bucks looks like.
B
A skinny Chinese woman under there. I can just tell by the way. I can just tell in a fat suit.
A
This is not the same person.
B
It's not.
A
I don't get it. Because like, like, you know what? I take that back. I get it. They'll. They'll get away with it. Of course they will. They can. They do stuff all the time. And. And then. And then what? You know, I mean, well, who's going.
D
To do anything about it, right? You know, like us, doj.
C
You know? You know, Alex Stein's gonna do something about it.
A
You know what I hope? I hope it's just the alien. The alien thing is real, you know? You know, it'd be really funny. Like, you heard about Obama, right? And he was like, oh, aliens are real.
B
Yeah.
A
And I. I hope that, like, what happened was he gets asked by Brian Tyler Cohen if aliens are real, says yes. And then I imagine he gets home and his phone rings and it's like one of the lizard people being like, you made a mistake. And he's like, oh, I'm trying, but I'm sorry, sir, let me, let me. And I'm also not a tweet right now.
B
Well, you know why they want the fake alien invasion, right?
A
The fake alien also unify all the countries under a globalist government.
B
Exactly right.
A
That is, you know, predictive programming, right?
B
Well, of course.
A
That's why they made the Watchmen movie.
B
There's a lot of movies like that. You know, there's a lot of movies that predicted 9, 11. But, you know, it is what it is. A lot of cartoons as well.
A
My, My favorite conspiracy theory is that the. The Titanic was sunk. Was. Was built, Created on purpose to be sunk.
B
Oh, that's true. That's true. And there was an insurance.
A
They got the. Well, no, it was an insurance scam. It was to kill off all the billionaires to create a bunch of dead money so they could create the Federal Reserve.
B
Well, that was part of it too. But the other boat, it was like the Olympic actually was in an accident, started listing a little bit. So they actually sunk the Olympic and put. The Titanic was newly built. They put.
A
There was a book.
B
Yeah, but they put the Olympic back.
A
But, you know, do you know about the book before the Titanic, that was literally the story of the Titanic.
B
What was insurance?
A
And it was. It was about the titan. So the theory is that somebody wrote a book in the 1800s, a bunch of powerful people said, we need to create a central bank. How do we do it? Well, we need lots of capital to do it. Okay. You get a bunch of rich people in a boat, they all die, they have no heirs, and now you have a bunch of dead money. What to do with it? You create a central reserve, a central bank, a central reserve. How do you. How do you get rid of all these people? Put them on a big boat and sink it, just like in that book.
B
And JP Morgan Chase did not get on the boat, you know.
A
No, he was too busy. He was too busy planning his next trip years later to Jekyll Island.
B
Well, all I'm saying is if you look into the conspiracy about Titanic, it's very weird. It does look like it's. I mean, the boat that still lasted, I think it's called the Olympia or the Olympic. It was an identical boat except for like one hole. I mean, it was from the naked eye, you couldn't even count that. It had less one hole, like one less room or whatever.
A
I want to point one other thing out too. With this image like Asmin Gold. It's. It's not an. It's not. Someone didn't take the screenshot of Ghislaine Maxwell's faces. They took a screenshot of Asmin Gold's YouTube channel with him looking surprised. It's the ubiquity of Asmongold. So, you know, congratulations.
D
He's great. He's one of the. I mean, he's the top streamer on Twitch now.
B
He's no clavicular, but I don't know, man.
A
All right, everybody, here's. Here's the big news. We've got this from Newsweek. Trump is going to announce aliens are real. Newsweek, I love this. You know, you know, it's a slow news day. Newsweek ran this as their, like, second lead article. Trump UFO announcement. Rumors persist online. What we know, and I'm going to stress this, instead of starting off the article with there is no evidence to suggest this is true. This is an online rumor with no basis. They started by saying rumors that President Donald Trump is planning a major speech about unidentified flying objects has been growing online since claims published in early February suggested a major revelation may be imminent. Mark Christopher Lee, a British writer, filmmaker and ufologist, said in a Monday email, in parts, Newsweek, quote, a Washington insider I have known personally and conducted business with has repeatedly affirmed that President Trump has prepared a historic speech acknowledging extraterrestrial visitation and the existence of recovered non human materials and craft. Newsweek has not verified the claims. So here's what, here's the trick. The way they format their news articles makes you get all excited and hot and bothered. And then you got to scroll way down to where it says like, well, you know, it's probably not true. The unnamed source is saying this and this. There's no evidence to this. There's no evidence of planned speech. All at the bottom of the article. But hold on. This story has persisted for some time. Take a look at this from tmz. Trump knows about extraterrestrial life forms, says the Age of disclosure director. 11-20-25. Obama being jealous says aliens are real. You guys saw this. Washington Post reporting aliens are real. Obama says as Washington shrugs. The former president appeared to confirm decades old conspiracy theories. But then he walked back his podcast comments. Here's the funniest thing. A former president of the United States went on a big podcast and said aliens are real. And no one cared. No one cared. This is the test, the trial balloon to where now they actually could announce aliens are real. And people will be like, yeah, we get it, whatever.
D
Yeah, I Mean, well, that's. This has been something that's been brewing for a couple years now, right? Like they, the. Ever since they stopped calling them UFOs and started calling them UAPs, there were people that were saying, well, you know that there are UAPs. And they. And the government saying, but they are RUAPs. And, and you know, we.
A
Can we just get to the real story already? Can we? Can we? Can we. The real conspiracy.
B
What?
A
You know why Obama said on that show that aliens are real, right?
C
He wanted to get good odds on the cow sheep betting markets.
B
No Truth maxing.
A
No, it's because the, the cabal. Deep state called him up before the show and said, this Epstein stuff is really, really bad. Please say something to distract people from it.
B
You're being sarcastic, but I'm not. Good. I mean like, they're going to roll out the fake alien invasion when they need it the most. And they probably do feel a lot of heat right now.
D
I mean, I would love to hear the justification. Like I would love to know the information that they're, you know, they say, hey, you know, we're going to do, we're going to announce that there are aliens. I would love to hear how they got here because as of right now, the. All the science that we know says that you can't travel faster than the speed of light. So I would love to see if they did exist.
B
They'd have to live like in the ocean, you know, it wouldn't make them aliens. What they say, like they'll come out from the inner earth if like they're aliens. Like they live in a different part of the Earth than us.
A
Have you seen that movie with. What's your. Who's that chick with the weird mouth? Emma Stone.
D
Okay.
C
Weird mouth.
A
Yeah, she like talks like this. Like her mouth is kind of weird. She did that movie. It's actually really funny where this like right wing conspiracy nut kidnaps her, him and his buddy, because they think she's an alien. You didn't see it?
B
Oh, yes, I heard it's good. I haven't seen it. I actually heard it's really good.
A
Should I not spoil it then?
B
No, I think.
C
No. Nobody gives me.
B
I understand it how.
A
All right, so it's really funny because the bulk of the movie you're just like this whackaloon conspiracy guy is nuts. He's like, you're an alien and I cut your hair off so you can't communicate with the, with the aliens. And I've covered you in an antihistamine cream. And she's like, what? Because she's like the CEO of a chemical company. And then only in the last five minutes does like, she escapes the guy, he gets killed. The police come and they're like, thank God you're okay. Then she flees from. Jumps out of the ambulance, runs into her office, into her weird secret, you know, I don't want to reveal too much. And then transports to outer space where Earth is flat and in with a firmament. And she's like, I'm sorry, I couldn't communicate. They taken my hair and then taking my hair. And then she's like, it's time to end the Earth. And then she pops the firmament and then all the humans just die.
D
Very morbid end.
A
Yeah, that was good. That was good because I kind of thought it was going to be this, like, we get it, right wing whackaloons are nuts. And it was just going to be making fun of Trump and like the right or something. But then it turns out the guy was right the whole time and actually was capturing aliens. I thought it was funny.
C
It's a nice twist.
B
Well, I mean, yeah, it was kind.
A
Of obvious it was going to go one way or the other.
B
I mean, that is why conspiracies exist. I mean, like you did say, like people can misinterpret information and kind of, you know, fib some, you know, exaggerate. But there's always some. It's always based in some sort of truth somewhere there's some sort of evidence, you know, or else just people wouldn't believe it at all.
D
What do you mean some sort of evidence, though?
B
Like there's past people that have eaten people like Jimmy Seville. There, there are cannibals. So, like the idea there has to.
A
Be a morsel of truth, somebody.
B
Yeah, there has to be something truthful.
C
So when it comes to the Epstein.
A
Files, conspiracy theorists, like, like, how about this? If I said that the Earth was actually a bowl, it was actually a bowl. Not flat, no ice wall. It's actually lightly curved, convex, and that holds all the water in. And it's very slight. It's very slight. And sometimes there's tsunamis. Because if the bowl tilts, the water rushes over. No, like you might get some people to believe something like that. But the reason why that's not a prominent conspiracy theory is that flat Earth actually has some prehistory. Yeah, that is the Bible describes the firmament and the upper oceans and things like this. And so you get. You start with the basic truth of you experience the Earth as if it were flat as far as you know. Then you can start to guide people, certain direction and trick them, and then wrap them up in crazier and crazier lies.
B
I think that's fair. But what I'm saying is, to my exact point, there is some truth to that. Epstein was doing weird stuff with kids, you know, prime ministers of countries.
A
He went to jail for it.
D
Yeah.
A
And so what we know is, I mean, come on, you got a guy who. We have women who are like, yes, literally, he was hiring us as underage girls, you know? You know, you know, you know, the story broke, right? How they actually got prosecuted. When he was first arrested, two underage girls, like high school girls, got into a fight. And then after the fight broke out, they searched the girls and found a bunch of cash. And they said, where'd you get this money? And she was like, I got paid by some guy to. You know what I'm saying?
B
It's a Netflix documentary I saw.
A
Is that.
B
Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah. The mom. The kid had, like, 500 bucks. The mom's like, how do you have $500? And she just told her mom, and then her mom went to the cops.
A
Yep. And then Epstein got caught. Now, you think that was the only time he ever did it?
D
Of course not.
A
Right. And. Right. So anyway, more to the point is, do you think he was being directed by aliens to do it?
B
Well, he might have thought they were aliens because, you know, there's Aleister Crowley, some of these people, they do practice satanic rituals.
A
Do you.
D
Doesn't mean alien, though. Do you know?
B
Well, I mean, you could argue, like, they're demons, that they're.
A
Alex?
B
Yes.
A
Do you know about the Anunnak?
B
Of course. They created the Earth.
A
Why did they create the Earth?
B
They were making human hybrids, and they actually created the white race.
C
Why?
A
Why were they making the hybrids?
B
What's the. What's the leader's name again? What was. Yakub.
A
No, that's not Anunnaki. You're wrong.
B
Okay?
A
You're talking about black Hebrew nationalism or Israel.
B
Israelites, maybe.
A
Yeah. So the. The Anunnaki live on a planet, Nibiru Blue. And it has an elliptical orbit with the sun of 2,500 years, which means for a short period, it travels around our sun and it gets warm, but after it leaves, it starts getting colder. And for thousands, 2,000 years, it's going to be very, very cold. So the intelligent alien race, the Anunnaki, use gold particles in their atmosphere to create a greenhouse effect to reflect heat back in. So what they did was when they came around into the solar system and saw Earth, they started creating a hybrid slave race so that they would mine gold for them and value it so that the Anunnaki could use the gold. Unfortunately, the first slave race they created was too smart and understood the nature of the universe and so rejected the rule of the slaves and said no. So the Anunnaki said, we need to make a stupider race smart enough to do any task, but not smart enough to understand the nature of reality. Body.
B
Okay.
A
And then they created humans. And then the humans were like, gold is good and gold and silver we love. And that's one of the conspiracy theories about what the aliens are. And the funny thing is in the past, like 15 or 20 years, the people who believe this particular theory, and I'm sure there's like a million different versions of the same theory, argued that we were entering the next era when Nibiru would return and they would come back and start continuing controlling the the politics of the Earth so that they could start taking all of our gold. And then the best part about this is it's, it's far fetched lunacy nonsense. But you can jigsaw puzzle piece it together to make it make sense. Like all the golden Fort Knox is presumed to be missing around the time, you know, there's that kernel of truth. Exactly.
B
Well, is it missing? Do they admit that it's almost.
A
Well, there's a conspiracy.
B
I know that's a conspiracy. But.
A
But then you mix all the conspiracies together and. And there you go.
D
The guy, the guy in charge of the Anunnaki, his name was, was Marduk.
A
Well, there you go.
D
Marduki their position. And there's a metal band called Marduk now. Oh, black metal band.
B
But Yakub was real. Like that's black. Yeah. Or whatever that is.
A
He was a black guy who created white people to be evil. Yeah, yeah.
B
Okay, dude, white people, if you would argue they are the most evil though, I mean, why is it? Well, they're the smartest, so they can do the most tricks, you know. And what does that mean?
A
I don't know, bro. I gotta be honest. Have you ever gone skiing?
B
Yeah, I have gone skiing.
A
And like people put thousands of dollars in ski equipment. They just put it on the ground and walk away and then come back an hour later.
B
It's because it's all white people.
A
It's true. Yeah, well, I don't know that it's because they're all white people. But this culture is high trust. There was.
B
Saudi Arabia is like that you can just leave your wallet and it'll.
A
That's because I'll chop your hands off. Yeah, yeah. I had a friend who went to, I think it was like the Emirates or whatever, and there was a jewelry store where the guy walked outside of his store and he lined gold necklaces in front of the store. And she was like, aren't you scared that someone might steal them? And he goes, no, they'll get their hands chopped off. So it's like, I'm not going to worry about.
B
Yeah, like, the gold stores don't have to have, like security there and stuff.
D
The justice system there isn't the same kind of long drawn out. There was a us either.
A
There was a viral video. It went viral because it was like three black dudes who went to a ski resort and stole, like, honest ski gear. Because, like, I gotta be honest, apparently, like, I. This story happens quite a bit.
D
They do they move it or was it.
A
Oh, you can easily move it. It's crazy. I posted on Craigslist. I mean, come on. Yeah, ski gear. And it's just like, nah. You know, but there are tons of stories where someone grabbed the wrong ski gear. And then you come out and you're like, where's my board? Someone comes like, I'm so sorry, dude. I grabbed the wrong, like, your board. My board, like, identical. I didn't even notice. I almost grabbed the wrong skis because I had rentals and there's a bunch of, like, similar brands used by the rentals. And I'm like, oh, wait, that wasn't mine. And so the thing about ski resorts is, especially the right ski resort, everybody's rich. That's. That's the thing.
B
Yeah, it's super wealthy. It's a rich man's game. I mean, there are, like, ways to do it, you know, I guess with value where it doesn't cost your family. You buy like a ski pass. But you almost have to live there. You have to almost be a local for it to not.
D
I mean, like, if you live in, like, New England, there's a couple. There's a couple mountains you can go to. You can go to Vermont and stuff. But it's still like a couple hundred bucks for a. It's expensive.
B
It's a rich man. It's like golf, in a way, you know, is golf. I mean, it's like golf. You know, golf's an expensive sport.
A
It's.
D
That so what the golf clubs cost?
B
Those get stolen, too.
D
They do.
C
A few hundred, even for, like, a used pair. Yeah, if you want to get the whole set. Right.
B
Yeah.
C
Stein to pivot a little bit, though. Is there anything that's a little. Just bit too far out for you where you're just like, actually, nah, that's B.S.
B
Maybe the earth is a time traveler. That's. That's not true.
C
He's not a type of character.
B
I did text that, but I. Oh.
C
But on Charlie Kirk, is Erica Kirk responsible for anything?
B
No, no, no, no.
C
That's like 101 conspiracy theory now.
B
They don't know.
C
Haven't you seen the videos, though?
B
And she had nothing to do with her husband's death. No way. But this is the bad part. She's gonna. Charlie faced immense criticism. Being the leader of Turning Point, they made cartoons about him, so he's gonna have to face intense criticism.
C
What do you think of everybody saying that she's in on it? And, like, that's a mainstream thing to say nowadays.
B
I disagree with that. But, you know, at the exact same time, I am a free speech absolutist, so I'm not gonna be like that.
C
Why do you think? I think so many people believe that or are willing to spew it. I don't even know if they actually believe it. I think they're just trying to throw dirt in their face. Is that what you think, Al?
B
I don't know if it's just a tension, because I think that a lot of people. It's just like with the Epstein files and the similar fact that we want more transparency. And so until the government gives more transparency, people are going to come up with their own conclusions.
A
Well, I mean.
D
I mean, like, the. The transparency evidence from the more transparency thing, they were. They were making these accusations like. Like days after. Like a week after Charlie was killed. So it's like you don't get any kind of resolution within a week after it happened.
B
And this goes back to royal times, like, that would always happen, like, when a king would die. They thought it was like a, you know, a woman trying to take. You know, that's. This is kind of like. It's just. It just happens, you know, that's kind of the story that they're going to tell, and a lot of people are going to believe it, and some people are obviously not going to believe it. And I think, me, I don't think Eric had anything to do with her husband.
C
I just. I'm struggling to figure out, like, how you decide when Something's like, definitely true and definitely not. Because I feel like the Erica Kirk. Right up your alley. For example, like, they would say, oh, the person in the crowd who yelled that I did it, even though that.
B
They weren't the actual shooter, faked his death. Charlie would never fake his death. I mean, I. I wasn't best friends with Charlie, but the idea of him faking his death was just ludicrous. He would never do that. He's not dishonest. So. Yeah. So I don't.
D
I mean, I don't see what the. What the benefit would be for Charlie faking.
B
Maybe. I don't know. I don't know.
D
I mean, because then it makes him way.
B
But there's people on the Internet that are saying that I'm.
D
Makes it way more difficult for him to see his family.
C
No, they're saying that Erica is responsible for it. I heard that.
B
That. I don't believe that.
D
Obviously, there's a lot of things going around. People. People are saying a lot of different stuff. They're saying that it was a dude in the. In the crowd. There was a guy with the.22 standing there.
A
My favorite was that Charlie got shot in the back, clearly, and that he was shot by the guy in front of him in the bushes.
D
Yeah.
A
The one thing not possibly incoherent.
B
The one thing I would like to know, though, it's that every time there is a shooter, the FBI is like, oh, they were on our radar. We didn't do anything. I would just imagine that Lance Twigs and Tyler were on their radar. I mean, whether they want to admit that. And I don't know that. I'm just purely speculating. I just feel like. Like if they were in discords talking about this, and I do think that he talked about it.
C
Dude. I feel like this is naturally up your alley, though. I mean, don't you hear that Charlie Kirk was turning on Israel and Israel had every incentive to go after him? I mean, I feel like this is right up your alley.
B
I mean, I get. I mean, what do you. I don't know what your. Your point is, I guess. I mean, I work for turning.
C
That he was turning on Israel, and Israel had to kill him because they were. He was turning on Israel and they didn't want to give him time to do so. Didn't you see those text messages? And doesn't that mean.
B
I don't think Charlie would ever turn his back on Israel, but maybe he showed some frustration. I think that that's fair. I mean, but I don't think that he would ever turn his back on Israel.
C
What do you think it says about people willing to use those texts and things like that to attack, you know, the things that he built, which is Turning Point. And his wife, his widow.
B
Well, Charlie was attacked his entire career, so people aren't going to stop attacking Turning Point. I guess you would just say the difference now. It's some conservatives now attacking it.
C
Well, if you want to call them that, yeah.
B
I mean, I would say that there's right leaning people that are attacking it now.
D
I think there's a difference between right leaning and conservative.
B
Well, whatever. I'm just saying it used to just be strictly from the left. That's why Jezebel was doing articles before he died. You know, hiring people on Etsy to do spells on him. So if that's a. That was a regular occurrence in his life, weird stuff like that, not people doing spells necessarily. So he was constantly under attack from the left. Now that attack is coming, you know, from more people on the right, so it just seems a little more intense. But listen, I don't think Erica Kirk had anything to do with her husband's death. But sadly, people are always going to say that because that's just. That's just. You can't change people's minds.
A
I want to jump to this story we had. This is a tragic story that just broke a couple hours ago. We've been waiting on details for it about this shooting, you may have heard at the hockey rink in Pawtucket. A father shot his wife and three kids in a horror family dispute. Now, the thing about the story is that we've not gotten any details on the shooter. And when that happens, you start to question, make assumptions. Yeah, what was going on with this? Now, of course, following this, we have no details. They've not released any information. If this was like a white male, they would have said right away, like, here's the person, here's the name. The online rumors right now are that this was a father who had maybe like left his family or something, but was transgender. Yep.
D
There's, there's pictures, but.
A
But, but is any of this corroborated?
D
No, nothing's corroborated.
B
The fact that it's that vague.
A
That's why I'm bringing up, like, the reason we've been sitting on, like, I've been sitting on this, like, waiting, like, I don't know if we can actually report this because other than saying a tragedy happened, we don't know much. There are tweets going up that, that are uncorroborated of a man. I'm not going to show because we don't know that this is the actual person. But Turtle Boy says sources are reporting the person who set up a hockey game in Pawtucket was a transgender dad. I'm not going to say the potential name. It's going to be a popsicle headache for some people. But he appears to be a die hard Trump supporter who's been warning other conservatives on Twitter not to badmouth trans people. Just yesterday, he warned Kevin Sorbo and Alex Jones that transgender people are going to go berserk if people keep bashing men like him. We, I, I, I've not seen any evidence to confirm that this is the individual. I, I don't know why people are assuming that it is, but a lot of people online are saying it is, but that doesn't mean it's true. That being said, because they wanted with the, with. Well, but here's the issue with the Canada shooting. It turned out that the Internet was completely correct. These initial reports that it was a transgender mass shooter. When they said woman in a dress, it was in fact, it was a male.
D
Yeah.
A
And so I suppose what we can opine on our source like this is, what is it? Coulter's Law.
D
Coulter's Law, yeah.
A
Coulter's law is if a news report does not mention that if they don't give the identity or background of the perpetrator, you know, it's some kind of minority group.
D
Yep. That's what Ann Coulter says.
A
Right. Because reliable. Because the media will always, they'll always tell you if it's going to be like, if it's a white male who did it, they'll just say it.
B
Yeah.
A
They got no problem. If they don't tell you, then you have to wonder what minority group it might have been.
D
Yeah. I mean, this is, this is, this is likely the situation. I don't know about political affiliation, but I don't think that really matters if it's a, if it's a trans person. Again, this is all still up in the air. There's, there's no.
B
But isn't it weird though, because there's seven out of the last eight shooters have been trans shooters.
A
It's, I don't, I actually, I don't think it's weird at all, so.
D
Yeah, but I'm flavor of the.
B
I know. You mean it is bizarre, though. You don't think it's weird at all. I know.
A
Yeah, we kind of thought so. No, but I'll elaborate a second but there's photos I'm not going to show of an individual who looks like a middle aged man who's translated at a hockey rink, which appears to be the location in question. I don't know for sure though, so until we get better corroboration, I'm not going to show anything. But no, my point is the reason why I think we're seeing so many of these mass shooters being trans is because people who are suffering some kind of like psychotic derangement. You go online and you're told by everybody that the pain you feel is caused by being transgender. This is the solution to everything doing right. We hear it over and over again that when a teenager is depressed, someone says, maybe you're trans, and then they get fast lined through this process. So the issue is not that the mass shooters are trans, but that people predisposed to violent, deranged tendencies are being told they're trans and they're going for it.
B
Yeah, and I think it's just, it shows that you're out of touch with reality if you do think that you can actually change your gender because, you know, if you can't change anything or ethnicity, like, you know, you can be half white and half black. Like our, you know, ethnicity is a spectrum. Right. You know, you can be half whatever, but you can't be half male and half female. So there's no spectrum. It's binary. It's yes or no. And I guess you could say there's people born intersex, but I would just say they've, you know, mutilated genitals. So it's just if you think you can go, a man can become a woman, you're actually. And they even say that. No, I'm not even kidding. They diagnose most of the trans people that have autism. So I think that's a huge correlation too.
A
Females. Yeah, the, the report was that like a majority, overwhelming majority of transgender young women, young females have autism.
D
We talked about this.
A
So, so what's happening is you've got these young people who are undergoing some kind of typical DSM 5 mental disorder, and they're told the solution is gender. Is gender medical, you know, therapy or whatever?
D
Yeah, I mean, we talked about this a little bit last week. The, the instances of bulimia and anorexia have plummeted and the instances of trans men has rised accordingly. So it's. A lot of it is likely just body dysmorphia, at least with women, that when it manifests as in men, it manifests for different reasons. But with women, it's very likely that it's all body dysmorphia. When they're young, they're going through a lot of changes in puberty and stuff, and that's a really difficult time. And then you, you know, you couple that with bringing them to a psychologist that has been indoctrinated with this kind of bs and so they start pushing it on kids. We were talking about one kid that was, was 15 when she transitioned socially. She started dressing like a boy and then 11 months later they actually gave her surgery. And you know, it's insane, but you know, the fact that a doctor would do that to a 16 year old, you know, that's, that's insane. But this is all like part of the, basically the, I mean, the medicine.
A
Okay, wait, I think we've got some more corroboration. Let me, let me see if I can find this.
B
Well, I would say everybody has like a little bit of body misfortune, dysmorphia because like, if you really think about it, you know, Phil, it's like there's, you know, bigorexia, where you want to be really big. You know, there's anorexia. So it's like these, we know these people are mentally ill and I think we have to blame the parents for, you know, enabling.
A
It's confirmed. We've got it. This is NBC 10 saying that let's. Okay, let me see if I can find the Dan Janig reporting. It was a father, a man dressed in women's clothing.
D
Yeah.
A
That he targeted his family members at the hockey game. So it's looking now like this is. The photos may or may not be confirmed to know, but it does look like at the bare minimum, a man in women's clothing killed his family. According to NBC 10.
D
Yeah, to, to pick up what you were saying, Alex. The, the particular case that I'm talking about, the mother actually testified because this child won a, a two million dollar lawsuit against the, the doctor and the, the psychologist. But the, the mother felt like she was being coerced. She brought her kid to the psychologist and the psychologist was like, okay, this is what it is. And the mother was like, hold on. And then the doc. The do. The, the psychologist was like, no, no, this is actually what it is. You have to affirm this, et cetera, et cetera. So as much as there are definitely parents that push their kids into it, there's also a total like industrialization.
B
They literally say that the kid's gonna self harm if.
D
Yeah, well, the kid. Because, I mean, part of it is because they get paid more money to do procedures. They get paid, the pharmaceutical companies make money off the lifetime of drugs that the kid has to take.
B
If they said that at Boston Children's Hospital, that they're lifelong patients.
C
Yeah.
D
So, I mean, it's, it's, it's a disgusting situation made even more horrible because the medical professionals that people are supposed to trust are, are actually pushing this on children.
B
Wow.
A
I mean, let me just read a little bit. They say. NBC10's Dan Janig reported, citing a law enforcement source. A suspect was a father who may have been dressed in women's clothing. And then he intentionally targeted family members who are at the hockey game. Conclave said police were not involved in the suspect's death. It appears from a self inflicted gunshot wound. But we are not, but we are going to investigate fully. The police were not involved in that. So according to rumors circulating on X from witnesses is this individual came in, shot his wife and then kids and when was tackled by a bystander, pulled out a gun and shot himself. And there are photos of an individual who is clearly transgender. And they're saying this is the person in question. Other rumors are saying that the individual in question social media account was a Trump supporting far right, you know, quote unquote, far right trans person, but who was largely critical of the right for being anti trans and threatened to go berserk. So this is, this is wild.
D
Yeah. I mean, look, it doesn't matter what your politics are. If you're, if you're, you know, if you have this mental disorder, you have this disorder.
A
You know what the issue is for a lot of these people is that with body dysmorphic disorder, there are people who, no matter how fit they get, look in the mirror and they feel like they're not fit. Something is wrong. There are dudes who are so jacked they can't itch their back. You see the video where they put a post it note on this weightlift on this bodybuilder's back and he can't get it off because his muscles are too big. He's like, oh man. But there are people like that. I'm not saying that guy. But there are people who look in the mirror and they see themselves scrawny. So they just keep going, keep eating. Same thing with, with anorexia. So the problem is for these people who are suffering from gender dysphoria, no matter how many times they look in the mirror, they're not going to see the Right thing. It's not an issue of them being the wrong gender. It's an issue of them having some kind of self identification issue that anyone can experience in a variety of ways. There are people who stage. There was one, one famous story where a guy knocked the jack out from under his car so it would crush his arm because he. He felt that he shouldn't have an arm because he had body dysmorphic disorder. And so he went to the doctor and said, you need to remove my arm. It's not part of my body. And they were like, you're wrong. So then he crushed it with his vehicle so that it would be amputated and he could finally get off the. Like there are people.
B
You remember Rich Piano?
A
Yeah, I do.
B
Bodybuilder. He was so famous. Look him up. He's a meme now. Rich Piano. But he would actually inject silicone into his muscles and.
A
Oh, right.
B
Yeah, yeah. You know, and that was one of the reasons he died.
A
Yep.
B
Excuse me.
A
Yeah, yeah, but it's. But at least he, like worked out. You ever seen it?
B
But I mean, that's a mental disorder. Like he was already jacked. He didn't need to, you know, put that into his muscles.
D
Yeah, but Synthol.
A
He died from it.
B
How old?
A
He was 46.
C
Died from something else.
A
Dehydration.
B
Yeah, yeah. But he just didn't take care of himself very well.
A
Well, because a lot of these guys, when you want your muscles to be visible, you have to dehydrate yourself. Because the truth is everybody's got a six pack. It's just a question of how much fat is on top of it. Correct. And so for a lot of these guys you see like in the movies, they have their six pack showing, you know, like some superhero movie, and they're like, look at me. Yeah, they don't drink water for the day or whatever.
B
Yeah.
A
They get real dehydrated and then they eat back. Yep, yep. Yeah, I was reading. I think it was Chris Hemsworth said he was eating like several pounds of chicken and fish per day to maintain the mass because you need to keep eating the protein. Otherwise there was a. There was a funny incident where Jason was. Jason Moma. Is that his name? Yeah, he was on the beach and they said he was looking pudgy and it was like. No, he just looked normal. He's a. He's a very fit guy. He was in between movie shoots and he looked fit, but you couldn't see his muscles or anything. And so the assumption from these paparazzi people was like, oh wow, look how fatty is. And it's like. No, that's like a normal body.
B
Well, that's like daddy the baddie. The UFC fighter gets like 35lb fatter right after his fights. Like literally. Yeah.
A
Or after his weigh ins, you mean?
B
No, well, it gets a little bigger after the weigh ins because he probably, you know, rehydrates, but like he's just famous for getting really fat in the off season and losing it.
C
All right.
A
Before you know what they should do for the weigh ins, they should test your. They should give both people the same IV bag, so that way they have.
B
Oh yeah, that would kind of.
A
Well, you're. Because you're both going to gain the same amount of weight but stop being dehydrated and killing yourself.
B
That guy falling was bad.
A
Which one?
B
Just recently, look it up where they were live on the air and the guy fell behind him. Yeah, right away.
C
Yes.
B
At the weigh in. It was just super viral video because.
A
He passed out, right?
B
Yeah. And, but it's hard to watch three weeks ago.
D
You want to get as, as.
A
Let's pull this up, let's pull this up, let's pull this up. Is this it right here?
B
Yeah. And they were live on the air.
A
Oh, it's a doctor talking about it. Let's get this doctor's opinion. He's, he's going to tell us all about this stuff. It was an extremely concerning scene earlier at UFC 324 weigh ins when Cameron Smotherman completely collapsed after stepping off the scale from his weigh in. In this video, we'll talk about what.
B
Exactly happened here and more importantly, the response afterwards. Welcome back, everybody.
A
I'm Dr. Brian. I'm gonna skip ahead to teach you more about. Eventually they regain consciousness, right? He was able to sit back up.
B
He regained consciousness here. But then unfortunately, what do we see?
A
And he goes back down.
C
Right.
B
He still feels lightheaded.
A
There hasn't been enough time for that water that he's drinking to get distributed to restore that plasma volume to restore optimal blood supply to his brain. And he goes back down again. We then see this whole sequence as they get him off of the stage.
B
They are literally just carrying him and.
A
It looks like he's still unconscious. I mean, I, I don't know what we're doing here. This is, I don't know. I don't know what we're doing here because you should not be just carrying an unconscious dude. Wow, man, that's crazy.
D
I mean this.
A
Brian Sutterer, MD.
D
Same thing with bodybuilders.
A
Not.
D
Not. I haven't seen this kind of thing happen. But bodybuilders, before they go on stage, they're completely dehydrated because it makes your skin look super, super thin. And a lot of bodybuilders use diuretics and stuff to just suck the water out of them. So they. They're on up on stage, they're smiling and they're, you know, posing for the camera and stuff. But they're probably. They're likely fighting cramps at the time. They're in a lot of pain. It's a really agonizing experience.
C
Oh, yeah. Wild. My brother was. He won Mr. SMU in like 20.
B
19 or 18, I think.
C
And I watched him for, like, three days, like, do nothing but eat ground beef.
B
It was disgusting and he felt like death.
D
Yeah, it was bad.
A
You know, he, like, we, like, dropped weight and wasn't eating anything.
C
I mean, he had to look really cut for, like, the thing and. Yeah, you just gotta be.
A
What is it? Like a bodybuilding thing?
B
Yeah, it's like a bodybuilding competition.
C
And so, like, I guess the goal.
B
Was to get, like, as low body.
C
Fat as you possibly could and then, like, get super tan and, like flexible.
D
Both.
A
Both people for the weigh in right before they go up, are going to sit down for a nice IV bag, weighs the same, and then you're both going to go up and you're going to get weighed and that's it. It's silly that they're like, we want to get this weight class, so we're going to die to do it. You know, we're like crushing our bodies to do it.
B
Well, Ronnie Coleman, the world's best bodybuilder, he didn't drink at all. But before competitions, like the night or two nights before, he would get really drunk on vodka. So it would just be so dehydrated.
D
Yeah.
B
And he didn't even normally drink, but that's so dumb. Yeah, man.
A
Humans are weird.
D
It's. You see Ronnie now, and he can barely walk through all the back surgeries that he's had.
B
He's the greatest. And he won the most.
A
Remember Jack lalanne?
D
Yeah.
A
That guy was awesome.
B
Not as good as Ronnie Coleman.
D
Ronnie, he wasn't a. Jack Lane, wasn't a bodybuilder.
B
No, I know.
A
He was just a fitness guy. He was like, I'm 90 years old and I can backflip.
D
But he was, you know what, considerably more healthy than any bodybuilder.
A
It was always kind of weird to me, like, Wasn't Richard Simmons kind of out of shape?
B
I think so. Yeah. But that was part of his fitness, you know, gimmick that you could be fat and you can move around. It's all about positivity. And so that's why he didn't need to be.
A
I was, I was. I've been watching Star Trek the Next Generation again for like my fifth or sixth watch through and it's just like everybody's super thin in that show. Like this is the late 80s.
D
Yeah.
A
We had like a roaring economy coming like after the Reagan years and everybody was very happy. And you know, the economy was a boom.
B
And you know why that was?
D
Cocaine.
B
Yeah, The CIA sold cocaine. Like, we just need to go back to where the CIA just sells cocaine. Stop trafficking kids Ozempic out of there.
A
Cocaine.
B
Cocaine. Now we got Maduro, we got all the crack we need from Venezuela. Like just CIA go back to selling cheap cocaine.
D
Cocaine. I think you're overstating the amount of cocaine that the CIA sold.
B
I don't think I am. I don't think I am old.
D
They weren't selling cocaine.
B
Selling cocaine.
D
They were not selling cocaine all over the country.
B
They would be less on dating apps.
D
They were not. They were not selling cocaine all over the country.
B
They were selling me in Arkansas.
D
They were selling cocaine in certain places. But they weren't like providing the whole country.
B
I mean, sure, Jan, I think they were selling cocaine.
A
I like to believe the.
B
The food pyramid is totally wrong.
A
No, no, no. It was totally right. But they forgot to mention that each. Each pyramid was 10 cocaine.
B
Yeah, see, that would be better.
A
Government was like, here's some bread. What's in it? Trust us. And then you'd eat it and you'd be like. And then you'd just lose all that weight.
B
If I had a time machine and I had to go back anywhere, it's to when cocaine was in Coca Cola. Like, that's. I mean, that is. I would love to just try that. And if everybody cocaine laced Coca Cola.
A
But you know that caffeine has near the same physiological effect.
B
Not if you drink 20s, 20 Coca Colas.
A
I'm sure caffeine and cocaine have very, very similar physiological effects.
B
I think that's probably true.
A
It is true. It's absolutely true.
B
But I think cocaine has more of a euphoric feeling. That's a different.
A
Caffeine does induce euphoria. You just. People just don't take that much.
B
Yeah, probably so. Yeah, I'm not, you know, I think they are similar. They're like the same anal analogous, bro.
A
We are, we are a nation hopped up on goofballs, bro. Caffeine is a psychoactive stimulant, and it's in everything. It's in everything. You know why? You know what my theory is as to why they give you a liter of cola when you go to a fast food restaurant?
D
Why? Why?
A
You eat this big thing of fries, salt and oil, and then you eat this, this disgusting burger, which is probably half styrofoam, and your body is like, red alert. You know, the captain of your body is like, we're gonna die. We need to shut the body down and divert all energy to get this crap through the system. So at the same time, you pump yourself full of caffeine to jolt your brain. I, I'd imagine if you, like, went to a fast food restaurant and said, let me get a super sized meal with a big fry, you'd pass out. You get the itis. You just like. And you fall over, get the meat sweats. But you drink a liter of Cola and crank 300 milligrams of caffeine in your system and your body is dying, but your brain is like, everything's fine.
B
Well, you have a coffee company. I mean, I do think, like. I mean, I think it proves that, like, caffeine is probably just as addicting. More people use coffee than, you know, cocaine. So it's probably the same freaking thing. Basically.
A
You know what really bums me out is cold brew is so delicious. I got some of that. I forgot what the company's called. I don't know.
D
I don't know. The, the western world was created on like, caffeine and.
A
Yeah, the enlightenment stuff. But like a good cold bre. It's like dark and chocolatey. You put some heavy cream and you little tablespoon of heavy cream, you mix it up and it tastes so good. But people don't understand this. A cup of coffee has like 90 milligrams of caffeine in it, and a cup of cold brew has like 350 milligrams of caffeine.
D
I'm.
A
I'm crazy.
B
Yeah, me too.
D
Yeah, so I think it's good. It's good.
A
You ever see that video of Hitler on a stimulant?
B
Oh, yeah.
D
Oh, yeah. And he's like tweaking out everything in moderation, of course. You know, I'm not talking about.
B
It's funny that. You know who else is on meth? Clavicular, your favorite content creator. He's on meth. He Was doing it on.
C
You love that guy.
B
I think he's the number one guy right now. He's a top dog. I just, you know, he needs to come on Tim cast irl, but he's trying to stay out of politics. But.
C
So I think he does steroids, too.
B
Oh, yeah, I don't.
A
I'm. I'm not about that meth life, so.
D
Well, he does steroids.
A
I got a question. I got a question for these UFC fighters. Like, if they did meth or coke, would that. Would they get in trouble?
B
Jon Jones?
D
Yeah, I think so.
A
You get tested for that? Yeah, I was. I was saying this. I don't know. I think any athlete in the Olympics is going to get tested. So we're having this conversation. Actually, this would be a great for the skateboard podcast because I was telling the other pro skateboarders, like, skateboarding is probably the only pro sport, maybe not necessarily where you can do stimulants and never get caught. Maybe golf. Do they. Do they.
B
Even the X Games, they don't drug test.
A
I don't think so. Because, bro, all those dudes, everybody. Yeah, the Olympics, Yes. The Olympics, yes. Yeah, but it's not just that. Is that a bunch of the pro skate contests are just. They're just unregulated, you know, culture core. And so I was telling, like, bro, I'm going to tell you this right now. When you watch that skate contest in, like, Tampa or whatever, I bet these dudes are. Are just coked out of their minds, bro. Like, I want to win. They go out there. No one's drug testing them. They're doing performance, you know, performance enhancing drugs, peds, but they're not doing anything special. They're just blasting coke.
D
I don't think that counts as a.
A
Ped, but I think they definitely is.
B
I think it's more likely they would also have to be on downers because they're hurting their shins or hurting their feet. Like, you know, it'd be strong likelihood they would also. Pain pills.
A
I. I think. Nah, you know, like, I get wh. I got. I got whacked in my shin three times today, and it hurts. And be a man. Yeah, but, I mean, nobody's.
B
You don't take.
C
Aaron Rodgers famously took Percocet to, like, play football. You can tell him, like, in an interview, like in a post game interview.
A
He'S clearly very high, but that's more like painkiller killer.
C
Sure.
A
You know, I mean, if, like, they're popping ibuprofens, I'd Be like, yeah, I guess. Yeah.
C
But, like, you take a sick fall at the X Games, you're a little bit hurt, you need to get back up. You pop a perk, and then you're.
A
Ready to go for another perk's not going to hit you for 45 minutes anyway.
D
And perks, I don't know.
C
I don't pop drugs.
A
You got. You got three minutes between runs. You're not taking drugs in your run because you do a slam. And. And trust me, dude, skateboarders, when you take a slam, when you fall, and I wish I didn't say, like, any. Any athlete, if you're in the middle of your. Your sport and you fall down and you slam, you're not going like, oh, no, I'm so hurt. I need drugs. I got to be honest. Especially if you're on cocaine.
D
Yeah.
A
You're not going to be like, oh, I hurt my.
C
Is that common in the skate community? Are they doing skateboarder?
A
The best skateboarders in the world. I can't speak for some. I can't speak for everybody, but let me just tell you this. Skateboarding is largely dead, but I assure you, all the biggest guys in the world when you watch these videos are like, can you believe this dude just did the greatest trick? And I'm like, oh, wow. And how much coke was he on? Yeah, okay, Because I'm going to tell you right now, they are on coke. They are. They are.
B
Those. I mean, you would have to be a little. It's not sober, but you don't want to be, like, drunk, so.
D
Feeling pretty.
A
There's a lot of boobs.
B
Adderall?
A
No, not Adderall. Adderall's too slow.
B
Pro baseball players, you know, they used to take beanies back in the day, which is. There's amphetamine, salt.
A
There's a. There's a pro skateboarder who takes a beer and just bashes his face over and over again and then does something ridiculous. And I'm just like, he's probably got brain damage.
B
Yeah.
D
I mean, look, if you're ripping a bunch of lines, are you worried about damaging your brain?
A
That's the crazy thing about sports like skateboarding. And it's not just that. There's, like, bmx. And you know what the funny thing is? I don't think. I don't think this largely of, like, skiing and snowboarding, like winter sports, but a lot of the. A lot of action sports. These people are just whacked out of their minds on drugs. Their whole life is If I do the craziest thing imaginable, I'm going to make more money, literally. There's a quote, it was an interview in a magazine, like 20 years ago. I read where the guy said, the thing about skateboarding is that you're tired. You're not really feeling it. And then your boss says, I want you to nose grind the 16 stair handrail and you'll make an extra $20,000 this year. Now, don't worry about the terminology. They're basically saying, jump down this flight of stairs when you feel sick and not, not like you're going to make it. Otherwise you're not going to make as much money this year. And so you go for it. And I don't want to get too personal, but a friend of mine who was a pro landed a crazy trick that was very dangerous, and the boss said it didn't look good enough. Go back and do it again. When they went back and did it again, they broke their arm. And quits. And quit. I was like, I'm done.
B
Wow.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, what was it for?
A
It was for a video.
B
Yeah.
A
And so, but I'm telling you, there's, there's, there's a lot of pot smoking because it wipes your brain out. Yeah. And then so these skateboarders are just like. And then they can do crazy tricks and then the rest of them are just blasting lines of coke like nobody's business.
B
Well, not Tony Hawk, though. He's like famous.
A
I don't think Tony Hawk has. Is a drug kind of guy.
B
No, I don't think so.
A
I mean, I don't know for sure, but he doesn't come also, you know, you know what he's doing? He's popping cunol.
C
What's up?
A
You don't know about Kuno?
B
No.
A
You know he takes turmeric. Oh, he's popping turmeric pills, baby.
B
That's good. He does. That's smart, bro.
A
Tony Hawk is in his late 50s and he does commercials on Fox News for turmeric.
B
So you make fun of me for liking. You watch Fox News unironically. So.
A
I do. I also watch Ms. Now. You know, I watch the Young Turks. I watch Kyle Kalinsky.
B
I'm saying the Young Turks is on the Internet at least. I mean, that's not Fox News on the Internet.
A
What do you mean?
B
Yeah, but Fox News is boomer news.
C
I mean, you're too old to be watching. You should be watching Fox News. You're boomer age. Look at you.
B
No, I'm Not.
A
First of all, Alex Stein is just memeing. When he says you don't need to.
B
You know, you don't have to be an ageist.
A
He's just meming.
D
I don't think he watches Fox News because of the whole big booty Latina thing.
B
Yeah, I don't watch it well. One reason they fired my biological stepfather, Tucker Carlson. So, you know, ever since Tucker's been gone, I've bought biological stepfather.
A
Yeah.
B
And I just think Fox News kind of sucks overall.
C
It's a good guy to have as a stepfather.
D
That's because they want.
B
He's a pretty influential guy.
A
I was going to say I'm really curious as to what happens with the media industry because we were talking about this the other day. Let me, let me, let me do this again because people are really interested in this cable TV ratings. We did a segment on it. The segment was massive because people. Hold on, let me, let me see if I can pull this one up. It's.
C
Here we go.
B
Who has the biggest show? Gutfeld. Who's the biggest show on the network?
D
On Fox.
C
I still think it's probably 8pm or the 5. It used to be Jesse Waters or the 5.
D
I think probably the personality.
B
So Jesse took his spot.
A
Check this out, check this out. Week of February 2nd, cable news ratings. Fox is the only network to grow and the only thing that really matters. Well, first I'll say this. Fox News had 2.633 million viewers. 275,000 were in the key demo. Yo, that terrifies me, man.
C
It's outrageous.
A
Check this out. Check this out.
C
10.
A
They do 175000 in daytime. This is crazy. Ms. Now.
B
But I 134000 though, Tim. Because old people buy more stuff. So it's almost better if you have like.
A
No, no, this is my point, bro. Boomers are. Are about to turn 80. They're about to die. Like there's. It's called the mortality shelf.
B
Yeah.
A
So Fox News is going to cease to exist. There's no way you support the studio with the. For the 5 at those salaries. Jesse Watters, big fan. Appreciate he's been the show quite a bit. His, his rumored salary. I don't know if the actual numbers. I think it's 5 million a year or something like that. Ain't no way you're paying him 5 million a year off. 275,000 viewers per night. Not happening.
B
Well, that's a. You're talking about the key demo though. I mean if they have Old people watching, they're more likely to buy their products.
A
Alex, my point is the old people are dying.
B
Yes.
A
And when their ratings drop from 2.63 in Cunol commercials down to $225,000 for beer commercials, they're not going to generate enough ad sales to support big studios. I agree.
B
They are a dinosaur. And they're. They're going to get hit by, you know, a metaphorical comment any day.
A
All of them.
B
All.
A
I mean, Ms. Now. I don't even understand. Ms. Now exists and rumors are Ms. Now's daytime is 75,007 in the key demo. Bro, I could, I kid you not, I could launch a brand new podcast on chicken farming with a lot who has no experience and I who literally have no idea for the most part about chickens, and we'd get more views than Ms. Now gets.
D
Well, it'd be interesting because a lot doesn't know anything about chickens.
A
To be fair, it would be really funny to hear us BSing the whole time about nonsense and laughing about chickens. And that's more entertaining than Ms. Now.
C
I do like eating your chicken's eggs. It's one of the best Tim Cast perks to working at this company. Yeah, like, I don't know. I've never had real eggs.
A
It's true. Employees at Tim Cast get first come, first serve eggs from chicken Sig.
C
There's always way too many. It's too.
A
So it was funny. I asked my wife the other day, I was like, oh, did we get eggs from the store? And she goes, no, I, I couldn't fit it in the, in the bag. I decided just to not get it and I had to walk over to the chicken coop and grab some things.
C
A lot of pancakes on this key demo stuff, though. This is for advertisements. However, older people vote a lot more than younger people, so they're still getting their message out to some of the most important voters.
A
I got to stop you right there.
C
They're going to die.
A
Yes. The mortality shelf is now, which means life inspect. Life expectancy. Being 79 doesn't mean when you turn 79, you die. It means some people live to 85, 90, 100. Some people die at 70. The expectation right now, as boomers have just hit life expectancy, is that there's a curve from 79 and down where we're going to see a certain amount of death. So if we cut off the portion that's expected, the, the higher end of the bell curve, that will live beyond 80 years old, as some do, we are looking at the they estimate like 30 million deaths in the next four or five years from average life expectancy deaths. This is the reality. People die around this age, which means in the next year or so total viewership. To be fair, when Tucker Carlson was, was, was on the air, he was doing 3 to 5 million per night with like 600, 700,000 key demo. Now that's Tucker Carlson. I get it. When he left the numbers did go down. But even now looking at the numbers they are saying like well they're up this month, 12 in the demo. That's good and that is good. But their total viewership is collapsing while their key demo is going up a little bit again. You are not going to sustain cnn, Fox News or Ms. Now. And the rumors are that they're gonna. The story broke that with like, was like Warner Brothers is talking to Paramount or something like this. And I don't know, I don't even know where CNN is anymore because it's been sold so many times. But CNN is a worthless company. It is worthless. They don't have enough views to actually bring in money. Now to be fair, technically they do because they're getting. Yo, this is apocalypse. Look at this. CNN gets 753, 000 total prime time. That's old people. They're doing 142 in the key demo. They're down 16% in the key demo and 9% in total daytime. 527,000 total viewers total.
D
And that's being on in every airport in the country.
A
Okay, what you guys need to understand is that 142,000 prime time does not mean one hour. It means total all night. The expectation is then in, I think it's three or four hours. They're doing like 40,000 viewers.
B
I mean that's crazy. I'm not surprised at all really. I mean I think everybody watches stuff on their phone. They watch short form content.
A
I mean, I'll let you guys in on a secret. You guys want to know a secret?
D
Yeah. What's the secret?
A
A meeting was held a couple of weeks ago in Florida with big executive figures specifically to discuss how they enter this space. So we've heard quite a bit after the election that they needed their new, they needed their own Joe Rogan on the left and there were concerns that older people are voters and they have this, this big block. But they're now recognizing that they've got only a couple years left where they can still sell ads to old people who have money. So there was a, there was a meeting that took place with a bunch of executives who intentionally met just to talk to each other about how they solve this problem. So here's what you can expect. Big shows like just, let's just go with Joe Rogan. He's, he's the king of the castle.
B
Right?
A
Don't be surprised if, and I'm not, I'm not saying there's anything I know about this. I'm not saying Joe would actually do this. I'm just saying I would not be surprised if a year from now we find out that like Comcast bought the Joe Rogan Experience and they're like now airing on NBC at 9pm they wish.
B
They could, but I mean it shows three hours though. How are they going to do that?
A
They put the first hour on live and then they say the last two hours are exclusive at NBC.
B
Plus, yeah, I mean they could do it that way.
A
And they've already got Bill Maher on Paramount, I think, I think he's on Paramount, right? I think he's on Max Die. He's on hbo.
B
The podcast that he does in his basement.
A
No, real time.
B
Oh, well, I know that's hbo, but I think his podcast is independent.
A
I thought, yeah, yeah, it's his own company. Again, I would not be surprised if these big companies start to. Well, actually I will say this like Jimmy Kimmel. We all make fun of his ratings being bad. He gets a lot of play on YouTube. But these are just clips. They need long form. And so I have my, my, my speculation right now is to consider, not that I know it's going to happen. Jimmy Kimmel might get a banger of an opening 10 minute, but that's not going to compete with the longer form stuff that you see from the likes of Rogan and the podcast space where they've done these massive hundred million dollar deals with like Travis Kelce and like Call Her Daddy. Which means they're going to need a show that is conversational long form style for their premium platforms. And it's not going to be Jimmy Kimmel. I wouldn't considering that the TV model of the 9pm live is basically out and primetime is dying. No one's really watching these live kind of shows. You know, the question is, does Tim cast IRL need to be live? Most of the people who watch watch afterwards as vod. So we just are live because it's convenient for people. They want to hang out, out. But I think what we'll end up seeing is, or I should say this, I would not be surprised if take a look at any One of these big lefty podcasts. If they buy them and then put.
D
Them on the air, like, what's his name?
C
In 20 years, Hassan will be on.
D
MSNBC, Brian Taylor Cohen or something like that.
A
Yeah, Tyler Cohen. And it's going to be conversational, long form, hour long, with. With probably not commercial breaks, probably, but it's going to be. You're gonna be. You're be watching quote, unquote, TV. But TV's dead. They're just gonna have. Netflix is already doing this. What am I even talking about? Have you guys gone to Netflix recently? They have a podcast section now, and they bought a bunch of podcasts.
C
And to be honest about it, worth.
A
Naming nobody you've heard of. Okay, and so. So I. I say this. I pay attention to all of the media industry. I run a business, so I'm constantly tracking trends, ad rates, you know, all that stuff. And I go on Netflix and I look at their podcast and I'm like, I've not heard of any one of these guys. But it makes sense because the strategy has always been like this. Let me tell you the urban legend of Green Day. You guys want to hear the urban legend of Green Day?
C
Sure.
A
The urban legend goes like this. And actually, Phil, you can probably attest to this better than I could. The label, I can't remember which label they were signed to, signed 15 bands that were identical to Green Day. It was the pop punk era. It was the late 80s, early 90s. And they said, look at these bands that are popping up and getting a lot of attention playing pop punk. Sign them off. Then whichever one makes it to the top of the mountain, we blast them off and we do the bigger deal with them and we promote them. And so the general idea was, instead of looking for big, established artists and doing massive contracts, sign a bunch of tiny artists at dirt deals and then try and find which one is the diamond in the rough that you can turn into a big prize. And Green Day had a smashing hit with Dookie. And. And what was the. What was the next. Next. What was After Duke?
D
After Duke? I don't know.
A
I don't know. Anyway, you get the point. Like, Green Day nailed it. They. They took off. And so the labels were like, okay, all these other little ones were worthless. We didn't care. The strategy is likely to be the same. The big networks don't care about shows like ours because we're established, make a lot of money. Why bother? Right now is the opportunity to buy 10 small podcasts and then give a little light sprinkling. Of marketing, see which one bubbles up a little bit and then dump your marketing budget into them and then you own 100% of it.
B
I feel like they're already doing that, you know, giving out record deals.
D
I mean, they've done that for ages with record deals.
A
Right? That's, that's the play. You sign a bunch of small dirt artists for cheap and then whichever one takes off is your, is your moneymaker and you own everything. Like I think we talked, we were talking about this, Phil. I think the story with Paramore was that Hayley Williams signed a 360 deal for 20 years.
D
Yeah, that.
A
I don't know full details, but this meant that literally anything she ever did was owned by the label for 20 years.
D
360 means they get a piece of the merch, they get a piece of the public at publishing, they get ownership of all the music. Basically anything that artist does for however.
A
Long the term, 20 years, it's like you want to be famous. Okay, we get 20 years of everything.
B
But she does get 20 years of consistent pay, no matter.
A
Well, they, yeah, but not, not when she's smashing it and doing stadiums, making millions of dollars and she's only getting paid hundreds.
D
The way they talk about it is they say, well, we sign, we sign. We like to sign artists for the life of, of the artist.
A
Right.
D
If they can get you for, you know, 20 years for 10 records, they'll do that. Because from the labels perspective, they're like, well, we don't know if you're actually going to be famous. We don't know if you're actually going to write stuff that's good. So we'll sign you and we'll put this money into, into you. So we want to make sure that we have your catalog and have you on long enough to actually, you know.
B
How evil these people are. You know, Michael Jackson was innocent.
D
Tell me about it.
B
You know, he was framed 100% even. You know, Wade Robinson and James Safechuck, the two people that said that they were molested in the documentary. One, Wade Robinson was his lead character witness in not one case, but two court cases where Michael Jackson was, you know, totally exonerated, never charged, investigated for 19 years. And that's what they said. That's the reason why Conrad Murray killed him, because Sony wanted to get all of his originals because he had like the largest personal collection he had the Beatles. He owned the Beatles. So it's just very suspicious. These labels will literally kill their artists.
D
Michael Jackson but bought Paul McCartney.
B
He bought the whole. All the Beatles and. And the Beatles, Yeah.
C
I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan. I'm just a little bit surprised hearing this come from you, because I feel like you'd be able to work a lot of.
B
No, Michael Jackson was innocent. And even the one settlement he paid to Jordy Chandler, they were going to fight it, but it was just easier to pay him because there was no criminal charge with it. So it was just easier to, you know, pay the guy and make him go away. And on top of that, Jordy Chandler's stepdad, who was the one that kind of motivated Jordy to say all this, ended up dying under mysterious circumstances. Like, did a suicide and quit his job as a dentist. Like, totally spiraled out.
A
But if you just look at Wade.
B
Robson, that's the guy that was in the, you know, the key guy in the documentary Leaving Neverland, literally. He dated Michael Jackson's cousin after his death, was at his funeral, like, loved the guy, defended him in multiple court cases. And then all of a sudden, he's dead. He's like, oh, yeah, he molested me. Trying to get.
C
There were some weird circumstances surrounding Michael Jackson, though, despite.
B
Well, Macaulay Culkin and, you know, Corey Feldman both slept at his house with him and said nothing weird happened. I do believe that he was a little bizarre. They Arrested Development, but I wouldn't know what it's like to be, like, a Superstar celebrity at 5.
C
Sure. But if Epstein were to do those things and just had. Oh, I had. I had some people sleep over my house.
D
Totally different.
B
Michael Jackson was not. They're just. I just. Because Michael Jackson was investigated by the FBI, he never went to jail. So if there was any evidence that could have nailed him, I think they would have nailed him. So Michael Jackson was.
D
It's very likely that Michael Jackson was innocent. Like, didn't do anything.
C
Now, what about R. Kelly?
B
Oh, no, he urinated.
C
Oh, he's guilty.
B
Yeah. You didn't see the tape.
C
I thought.
B
Have you never seen him?
C
No, I didn't. I didn't watch it.
B
I have it on my phone if you want to watch it.
D
You have it on your phone?
B
I'm a big Archel.
A
Wait, wait.
C
She was an underage child.
B
No, she wasn't. I don't think. Well, I don't have it on my phone. That's a joke.
C
This guy.
B
Was she underage in that? The girl?
A
I don't know.
C
I don't say. We'll add it. Allegedly. Well, otherwise. Wait, what would be illegal about it then? If she Wasn't underage.
B
Oh, I guess maybe she was. Well, maybe I haven't seen the video, but I could have sworn I've seen that video. But maybe you don't really have that on. I don't really have that on my phone. Almost. My gosh. That's a bad joke. Well, I thought he just peed on a woman of of age. I forgot that it was a child.
D
I understand correctly. It was. It was an underage person.
B
It was an underage person.
D
I think so. I think it was like 17.
B
Okay, well, I've not seen it. I was just making a bad joke, but I didn't. I obviously.
C
Do you have more in common with Epstein than you thought.
B
He did pee on somebody? No, I.
C
You know, you both have this type of.
B
You're the one that's defending Epstein. See, I don't understand. That's the hill you want to die on. Like, I get.
C
What do you mean by defending him? No, I just think there's a.
B
It doesn't seem like it's like that connected. It doesn't seem like there's that much information to really connect them. Like, we don't see anybody that's guilty. Like, you had to have heard yourself.
D
There's way more evidence in incriminating Epstein than there was.
C
No, I think you over promise on a lot of the Epstein stuff to make it more salacious. To sound. Make it sound like a more sexy. No, it's salacious enough. I think it's salacious enough. But I think you need to go. I don't think they're eating children.
B
You don't think that?
C
I don't think that. And I don't think there's much evidence of that either.
B
Think cannibalism exists?
C
Exists. I do think cannibalism exists. I don't think there's evidence of him doing that. But when you.
A
When you start attacking hyperbolic, when you.
C
Start tacking on all this extra. It really butters the water of the legitimate.
B
Why are you personally. Even if people said that he's an astronaut, why do you even care? Like, it's weird that you get.
C
But it muddies the water of the legitimate story. There's a legitimate story to be had here. But no, you want to tack on a bunch of extra random to make it sound more salacious.
B
That's the issue here, Epstein.
C
I think it's so I want to protect Jeffrey Epstein. Dude.
A
I heard that.
B
Been defending him. Dude, you sound like such a shill. It's ridiculous. You're like, literally no no, no.
C
I want evidence. I want evidence based accusations. You don't care about any evidence. You will accuse anybody of anything.
B
There's 3 million.
C
Just because they're emailing about jerky doesn't mean they're eating children. It doesn't make sense.
B
Prime minister, he's with the most important people in the world and they're sending.
C
Off, therefore they're eating children.
B
I would say that they probably worship the devil. A lot of these people that are in high powerful positions like that. Yes. And I would think that they do satanic rituals.
C
Dude.
B
So have you ever heard of like skull and bones?
C
Yeah.
B
They went and what did they go do?
A
That proves it.
B
They went and stole Geronimo's skull. I'm saying. So what they do is they do weird stuff with bones and bodies. I know that you can't understand that. You're too young. You don't get that these people are actually evil and they do do weird rituals. There's a guy named Aleister Crowley, you should look him up. A famous occultist. And people would go to Hollywood parties where they would literally do spirit cooking. You looked up Marina Abramovich. Do you know who Marina Abramovich is?
C
No. Tell me.
B
She's a famous spirit cooker and part of her art is doing spirit cooking where they get blood and piss and semen and they write words on the wall and they summon devils and she's been on Microsoft commercials.
D
Do they actually summon devils or. They try to.
B
They try to. I would argue that if God is real, which I do believe, then there are evil spirits. So the devil's real.
A
I want to. Before we go to super chats, I want to ask you about this. So call. She's got this thing. We're talking about this earlier with the aliens. Will the US confirm that. That aliens exist before 2027 and right now? Yes, at 17 cents. So if I vote no and I put in 100 grand, I will make $19,000 this year.
D
20 grand.
C
Might be a good time to get in with all the hype around these aliens.
A
What do you, what do you, what do you think?
B
Put a thousand just right now, just for fun, just put it.
A
Just put a thousand bucks. I'll get, I'll get $191 the year.
D
$200.
A
Those are better margins than my bank. Do you think, do you think they're.
B
Going to say, you fade it, you say no, you fade it.
A
If you, if you, if you say all, we're going to go to your rumble rans and super chat so smash the like button. Share the show with every person you've ever met in your life. If you do appreciate the worth.
D
We do.
A
And go to timcast.com and click join us to get in the Discord community, guys. Community is our strength. And if you go to timcast.com and join, there's pre shows, after shows, and as a Tim cast Discord member, you can call into the show Monday through Thursday at 10pm for the Uncensored Rumble premium version. You can call in and talk to us and our guest, which is going to happen tonight at 10pm for the Uncensored portion. So do it if you. If you believe in what we do. But for now, let's grab your Rumble rants and super chats. Lee Tet says what? Oh, it says legit. Legit. Et. Is that what it's supposed to say? What do you call. What do you cam? What do you cam? A magician. I think he means call. Who has lost all his magic. Answer Ian.
D
Oh, Ian's not even here to defend himself. Come on, man.
A
JDAV says Massad Elad. Shush. We are onto the elites and the satanic ring of evil.
C
Go get him, guys. Go get him. You see, I think these people won't be satisfied until, like, what bullshit you put out in the ether about the Epstein files is true.
B
So I just don't know what your motivation is to defend him at all.
C
Like, I mean, I'm not defending him. I just think we should have.
B
Defending him. I mean, that's what it looks like. You're defending him.
C
I mean, I think we should have like, facts and evidence for things before.
B
We go out with pieces of evidence.
A
Did you see the email where Jeffrey Epstein admitted that he was an alien from.
B
Did you see the drama video that they watched torture porn?
C
Dude, did you.
A
What? Did you hear the subject? Why are you changing. Why are you changing the subject? Subject?
B
Because aliens.
A
That's really weird. Why are you defending Epstein?
B
I did that. I'm not defending.
A
What do you mean? What do you mean? They're doing these emails. They're doing emails where they're saying they're aliens and you're. And you're dismissing it because I think you're covering up.
B
You know, he's, he's emailing these Saudi Arabian guys saying, oh, did you like the torture video? Do you think that was.
C
What do you. I mean, I'm not surprised that they.
A
Watch a lot of torture videos. What do you mean? He's watching snuff porn?
C
Yeah, like a ton of it on The Internet. But here's the thing. Like, I don't think any reasonable person reading those jerky emails can't. Can. Any rational person could come to the conclusion that he's talking about eating kids. But the fact that you're willing to rant.
A
Okay, now I'll address the point that you made. I don't think any irrational person would come to the conclusion they're talking about eating jerky either.
C
Okay, fair. But I don't think there's any evidence of them eating chocolate. And I think that's a crazy.
A
That was my point. That you're jumping the gun to claim children. Maybe it's people we don't know, but they're certainly not talking about beef jerky. That's weird.
D
It just split the difference. Just humans.
A
We don't know humans either. We just know it's not jerky because that's weird. And it would be. That's the joke. It would be funny if they were actually making jerky, because it's hard to believe.
C
Dude, I think there's a lot of emails, and there's a chance he was talking about jerky. Is that a. That's not to say that he wasn't a pedophile and Ghislaine Maxwell didn't, you know, procure young women for him to sexually assault and that he wasn't convicted in 2008 and got a plea deal in Florida. That doesn't mean he wasn't involved with a lot of famous people after the fact who are willing to work with him after he was found out to be a pedophile while. But all this extra stuff really dilutes the real story, and it's a crazy.
A
Let's, let's, let's. Let's read some more. Let's read some more. We got this. We got this from. Okay, okay. We got this from NNY. Re. Pam Bondi. hearing Asmon Gold was right. Better than even. Odds you can go to a random ASU sorority party, find some entitled, arrogant, drunk blonde, and she would be smarter than Bondi. Well, you know, that's. That's hyperbolic, but funny. What I would say is Pam Bondi is not doing her job very well. That's the academic way to put it.
D
Like, doesn't she have, like, great pedigree on.
B
I mean, that's academic.
A
I'm being academic.
B
I mean, dude, she's literally, like, retarded. I mean, and she was at the AG Of Florida when Epstein got the sweetheart deal, so it seems like, you know, she's Guilty of something. I don't know what. I mean, if you accuse her of a crime, she'll get really mad. But she doesn't care about getting more transparency when all this comes out, because you're gonna find out more information that she was connected to Epstein all the way back in the Florida days. So she's been abysmal at her job, and she's been really.
A
All right, here we go. This is for sure. Van Ree says. Alex, what do you think the odds are that the jerky mentioned could possibly be placenta made into jerky? I bet 100 also. Keep saving those big booty, Latinas. AOC wants you.
B
I'll never stop.
A
You guys know about how they do the rich. The rich people hire young guys to give them their blood.
B
Yeah, yeah. Boys.
A
Blood boys?
C
No.
A
You never heard of blood boys? No, it's a common. It's very common. Wealthy Silicon Valley dudes, they hire young men, like 18, 19 year olds to body. To be bodybuilders and to eat specific diets. So they have really good, healthy bodies. You can't do drugs, and then. Yeah, you can't do drugs, and you got to eat a specific diet, like vegetables and protein, no sugars. And then they do a blood transfusion with you.
C
Wow.
A
So that the old, old guy gets the fresh young man's blood. And here's the truth. Young person's blood does rejuvenate old people's organs. Legit.
B
Yeah, it does.
A
So, like, these older guys will get a blood transition from a young guy. Their organs are actually like, de. Aging.
D
Aging.
C
Fascinating.
A
This is a fact that they do this. So when you get these whackaloons being, like, in the media, claiming that the conspiracy theories are fake. How you thought I was going the other way. The media is like, it's not true. The conspiracy theories about rich people eating babies or whatever. No, no, hold on. We know they have blood boys. They admit that openly. You think they're not doing anything else? Like, bro, look at that. With all due respect, the only. The only. The only weirdo guy who wants to live forever that I respect is Brian Johnson. Johnson. Because at least he's just like, I'm just eating food and doing weird stuff and taking the blood from my son. You know, he's not hiring anybody to do it.
B
Well, if you take it from anybody, I think you're.
A
That's what he's doing, right?
B
Yeah, but there are benefits to it. And these people even take it further, though, they actually believe that the blood has anti aging Benefits.
A
Okay, okay, I'm sorry.
B
All kinds of stuff with him.
A
Brian Johnson has discontinued using his then 17 year old son's plasma for anti aging. He got too old.
B
Well, the younger the blood, the more potent it is for your organs.
A
Oh, legit. Brian Johnson, the guy who wants to live forever, was taking his own son's blood. You know, like I'm just imagining his son like hooked up to a wa. Like Brian Johnson's all ripped and like glistening and his son has a tube coming from his arm and he's like wasting away, like, father, please.
B
Well, the kid's fine actually, because you just rejuvenate the blood, so it's really not that big a deal.
A
Yeah, but there's only a finite amount of cellular division that could happen. So I imagine if you're taking someone's blood, you're actually hurting.
B
Yeah, I mean, I guess you would say their telomeres are a little shortened, but theoretically, like if you're super healthy. I don't think it would. I don't think it would lessen your lifespan that much to give somebody blood.
A
I don't think that makes sense though.
B
You don't think. Well, people give blood all the time. They donate blood all the time. Pints.
A
Indeed. And I have to imagine that it's deleterious.
B
I would agree, actually. I would agree because even when I get blood for a blood test, I'm like, this seems like a lot of blood.
A
Your body has to do work, cells have to replicate. And there's a finite amount of cellular replication that your body can engage with region. So giving away your blood probably shortens your lifespan.
B
Yeah, probably just not that much.
A
Right.
B
Depending on the factors of how you take care of yourself.
A
Indeed. All right, what have we here? Lewis Unlimited says they're eating him in placenta from their baby farm. My wife didn't want her, so I cooked it up. Tastes like jerky. Texture and all.
B
See, that's the cannibal in the chat. Guilty.
D
If you are interested, giving blood too often does not shorten your lifespan.
A
Whoa. That's. That's what it is.
D
Be associated with longer life expectancy.
A
Google AI says human placenta can be prepared to look and taste similar to jerky. And it's a. It is a known method of consumption. It's called placentophagy. It is. It is actually a known thing that some people do. Bro, that's probably what they were doing.
D
Got a lot of stem cells in it, right?
B
Yeah, that's part of it.
A
That's what they were doing.
B
Bro, they like stem cells. And you know that you were joking about Ellen DeGeneres. Does she eat people? There's actually a famous video where they're talking about how she's with the. Who's the. Gosh. Who's the famous actress that was from. What's the movie with a bus. Where the bus gets taken speed. What's that actress name?
D
Sandra Bullock.
B
She said that she rubs baby penis on her face.
A
That's true, though. They make that cream.
B
So if you're gonna rub the foreskins of a baby's penis on your face, you don't think that they would mo.
A
Found another one.
B
How is that. That.
A
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. We got one. We got. We got one. I think I found something. I think I found something. I think I found something.
D
What you find?
A
There's an email says, hey, Jeff, I'm staying in New York for. For a while. In good rhythm with Torah, working and eating healthy. I started making those smoothie drink recipes your friend sent me. Really good. Another common form of placenta consumption is to dehydrate it and blend it into smoothies. That's what Google says. I'm not even playing. Google says it's more commonly dehydrated, ground into powder, and put blended into smoothies. Legit. That's what it says.
C
Could these just be dumb everyday emails about him talking to his peers about, like, smoothie?
D
If it's. If it's placenta, it's actually significantly less nefarious than children.
C
But there's no reference of the placenta.
B
I mean, yeah, it's.
C
And he has millions of emails.
A
And what would you like me to bring from New York? A smoothie. That's right. I'm in New York. I'm gonna fly in your jet and bring a strawberry smoothie.
B
Doesn't make sense as it would melt.
A
Yo, there are a bunch of smoothie.
D
Yeah. Like, why would. Why would you think that. That a placenta would actually be nefarious, bro?
C
What is.
A
The smoothies got so curious about them.
B
Wait, wait, wait.
C
What?
B
You know, circumstances or something. You know, maybe it wasn't just, like, a loving family doing the placenta for the dad or whatever.
D
I don't. I don't think that the. I don't think that eating.
B
Eating the place could be from, like, you know, like, you know, I'm just saying, I said this earlier. There are instances where Planned Parenthood employees have stolen babies.
C
I mean.
D
Yeah, that. But you're like, there's.
C
If you're.
B
If you.
D
If you got a baby that's. That's aborted. There's not. The placenta's still really small, right? Like the placenta.
B
I don't know. I'm not same.
A
The same person who was emailing about jerky was emailing about smoothies too.
D
There you go.
C
There you go. I guess it's settled. We're eating children through jerky and we're eating it is a weird combination because.
A
If lad it literally is on Google AI. I am not making anything up. Human placeta can be prepared to look and taste like jerky. It's placentophagy alternative preparation rather than jerky. It is more commonly dehydrated, ground into powder and put into capsules or blended into smoothies. And the same people are talking about eating jerky are talking about making smoothies as well and flying them from New York to the island, which makes no sense. Now, I'm not saying that's literally what's happening, but this is a preponderance of evidence. Meaning it's worth investigating. Is that the case? Because why would you fly a smoothie from New York to the island? We're not talking about. About Justin Hammer from Iron man where he's sitting in. In the hangar being like. Like my dessert. I like my dessert first. I flew it in. It's Italian. That's not normal. People don't really do that. He didn't. Jeffrey Epson didn't have a lady make a smoothie with strawberries and bananas, put it in a cooler started by a dry ice and fly to the island so he can enjoy it. He could literally just buy that stuff and put his freezer there. This was something else. I'm not saying it's placentas or babies, but it's worth looking into. They're using codes in their emails because what same person thinks this people are literally having this much beef jerky.
C
I agree with you. These emails are odd. However, I don't think this is evidence of them eating babies. And I think that just said earlier that's what Alex Stein was saying a lot.
A
I'm going to stop you right now. I'm going to stop you right now because my point is that Google is talking about in placenta fagy people do this. And you challenged my claim. Not what he was about eating babies. I'm saying interesting there. Google is talking about people who eat placenta make jerky and smoothies. And I went to Jeffrey Epstein's emails and there are emails about people flying smoothies from New York to the island. And I said, that's weird.
C
Do you want to look? And they're like, no Santa in the emails. Do you want to see if there's.
B
A name to El.
A
Yeah, absolutely.
B
You took a big L tonight. A lot. You took.
C
Well, Alex, that. You know, I'm frankly surprised that you don't think Erica Kirk's involved in the Charlie Kirk shooting.
D
Why are you changing the subject, first of all?
C
And why do you find it intolerant of you guys? I'm making fun of you, Alex. That's. That's on going.
A
What's.
C
What's happening here? I'm. Because I think there's. I think that it's funny that that's where you draw the line as far as conspiracy theories go. Talking about jerky in these emails. It definitely means that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and his buddies are eating children.
B
Why you're trying to bring Erica Kirk into this. I think that's bizarre.
C
I'm making fun of you. I'm saying the line.
A
You're drawing back to others.
B
Jeffrey, you're the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile apologist, and you won't admit it.
C
You think I'm a pedophile apologist because I don't believe that the jerky references are talking about children. No, I think it's specific.
B
Look better than he really is.
C
No, I think. I think you use baseless accusations to make up BS for sensationalist bs.
B
I don't think they're baseless. So that's, you know, my.
A
All right, guys, we're gonna grab some more chats. We're gonna grab some more. We can go to the uncensored show. You guys can yell at each other there. All right, let's see. We got going up here. We got somebody. What's this say? Based African says, glad the hearings are finally being discussed here. It's been big news for a week, and I was worried y' all would pass on it. Bondi's pattering was unacceptable. Only explanation is that the admin is lying for some reason, be it malicious or for foreign affairs. Did you guys see that one dude who's like, Trump's doing 4D chess where he's purposefully antagonizing the Epstein people to make everybody talk about it. And I'm like, yeah, I think that's more accidental. I don't think Trump is intentionally trying to goad people into talking about Epstein files.
D
40 chess man, 5D.
B
Well, I mean, the Dows. I don't know why we are even talking about it. I think we just need to worry about our portfolio. So. So that's kind of where I'm at. I'm in the Pan Bondi camp personally.
D
I can't wait till the after show to listen to Lad.
E
Yeah, that's fine.
C
Hopefully we'll get into Steve Bannon's emails.
B
Okay. I love that you want to talk about Steve Bannon. I don't think Steve Bannon is great that he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, but in those emails that I've read, it doesn't seem like they're talking about jerky. Doesn't seem like they're talking about child porn. So to me, it seems like he was trying to rehabilitate his career.
A
Yeah. How come there's nothing, Elon? Okay. How come there's nothing.
B
I don't agree.
A
How come there's nothing in the email. Emails about hiring child prostitutes?
B
Well, I think there is some stuff about like. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
C
I'll tell you why.
A
Because how about. How about you stop and let me finish my point? There are emails that are euphemistic. There are also euphemistic emails about jerky and smoothies. The point is they don't explicitly say, hey, they're hiring child prostitutes.
B
Okay.
A
The point is, all of it is. Is coded.
B
I would agree.
A
Okay.
C
I don't.
A
What's your point?
C
You know what is or is encoded. And I'll tell you why they didn't mention children.
A
Right.
C
Of these emails. Why? Because they mentioned jerky instead. So all these mentions of jerky are obviously talking about children.
A
That's what you really think?
C
No, I'm making fun of you guys.
A
How are you making fun of me?
C
Because I think it's ridiculous. I think these accusations of. Of smoothies.
A
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me. Let me. Let me lay down like this. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Hold on, hold on. Important point. I don't agree that the jerky means they're eating people or children. We don't know what it means. Elad, you are getting very, very angry, and you have been the whole time angry over people wanting the Epstein files released, which is weird. The whole time. And you've been like, trump's right. This is a distraction. We shouldn't talk about it. And now I can say this. A rational person looks at Epstein's conversation around jerky and says, that is not about jerky. I don't know what it is. And then you go, I'm going to make fun of you for asking that question.
C
I already said that. I think a lot of these emails are dirty.
A
Why did you say I'm making fun of you for thinking.
C
Because you guys are ascribing crazy things.
A
No, no, no, no. Stop, Elad.
C
Because I don't think I'm telling you explicitly.
B
No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on.
A
No, no, no. I have never stated that they're eating children, okay? So stop saying to me that I said through smoothies.
C
Through this.
A
When did I say that?
C
Reference that you.
A
When did I say that?
C
Didn't you bring up how the placenta.
A
I said Google pointed out that people pulverize smoothie placentas into smoothies. And then you look at his conversations around smoothies and a sane person says. Says regular people don't talk about it like that. You keep going overboard. This is. This is. This is what we see often with woke. You take the point I'm making, exaggerate it, and then throw it back like it's not possible. Overly defensive. A rational person looks at Epstein's emails and says they are not speaking plainly. Something else is going on. When the Pizzagate emails came out and they said, is it better to. Is it more fun having. Playing domino's on pizza or on pasta? Everyone went. Went. They're clearly not talking about either of those three things. But we don't know what they are talking about now. The conspiracy theorists said they're talking about doing drugs with children, like banging children, which is an exaggeration. We don't know exactly what they meant. You're taking the other extreme end of everyone's crazy. How dare you even bring it up? That's not rational.
C
Can I respond?
A
It's irrational.
C
Okay, so I think people who are digging through these emails are unreliable narrators, and these people are just picking and choosing based on whatever preconceived conspiracies that they have to read in. In to these emails specifically. That's the big issue with them. So I'm making fun of Alex Stein.
A
What?
C
He says he's reading into. He's reading into children, and that's fine by seeing jerky emails. Wait, if I can finish.
A
You made your point.
C
I'm not done Gish galloping. No, I'm not.
A
You are absolutely Alex.
C
So you're not gonna let me finish my point?
A
You're getting. I'm not. Okay, good, because you're making 15 at once. Okay, you're gish galloping. Okay, you want to say one thing? Alex Stein exaggerated the point and has no evidence to his claim. Point. Done. One sentence. Okay. When you say 15 things after the fact and don't let anybody respond. You're gish galloping.
C
I feel like I've given you ample opportunity to respond. You still haven't.
A
Let's stop talking.
C
Tim. I've said a few.
A
You've made a single point. Make one point right now. 1.
C
And that's these people are unreliable narrators. And reading into the Epstein and stop. Okay, what's your point? These are unreliable narrators making shit up to try to tart and feather their political opponents. And now that's all that's happening.
A
He'll go back to, okay, do you think a rational person reads that conversation of jerky and says, that's a normal conversation?
C
No, but I also think a rational person doesn't read that conversation and says, oh, there's a child eating pedophile sex.
A
Ring as a rock.
C
Okay, well, Alex is. So I'm directing this. Alex, good.
A
You are taking an extreme position against Alex's extreme position. You are being irrational. I've already said.
C
What was my extreme position? Tell me.
A
I have already said that Alex is reading too much into it.
C
What's my extreme position?
A
I'm making fun of you.
B
That is not a big deal.
A
I'm making fun of you too much for asking a question about why they're talking about flying a smoothie from New York to their island. You got mad about that. That is irrational.
B
Weird.
A
A regular person will go, why was he asking them to fly smoothies from New York to his island? What is that? Is that. That's weird.
C
Sure, bro.
A
I fly in private jets all the time. We don't say, hey, get a bunch of smoothies and put them in the cooler and bring them on the jet. That's the stupidest thing imaginable. You're gonna be in the jet for 40, 40 minutes to an hour. It's gonna melt and be worthless. Unless you're talking about giving them out and eating them. But he's on an island asking to ferry something to him. So it's fair to say they are talking about many things in these emails that are not what they're actually talking about.
C
I've submitted to you that there are already many odd emails in Jeffrey Epstein's files.
A
And you seem to be getting irrationally defensive when people bring up the Epstein files. And you have even before these emails came out.
C
Well, I'm trying to explain to you that this is all political theatrics again. These people who are talking about these files for the most part are unreliable narrators and trying to tart and Feather their political opponents. Wait, can I finish, please? That's why some people. All right, so I can't finish my point.
A
How is the political theatrics galloping?
B
There's people on both sides.
C
I've barely gotten a word in the conversation. I'm not gish galloping at all. Half of the people talking about these files are talking about how Trump is allegedly a pedophile. Thomas Massie is coming out in these files alleging people who aren't involved in anything of being pedophiles. And people are reading through these who.
A
So, so you made three points.
C
Yes.
A
And again, you can say Thomas Massie made what claim?
C
He alleged like four people who weren't pedophiles were or were involved in Jeffrey Epstein's affairs. I could read, I could read to you the names, but this is widely reported. I need to pull up the news article.
A
Right. So the issue I take take specifically with you and before we're about to go to the uncensored portion, is I am largely neutral on this in that I have been the whole time. I've argued that Trump's concerns over the recent release of the Epstein files is that it's going to embarrass people who didn't commit crimes but did things that were untoward or there's going to be people who are Saudi where in their country they're allowed to have sex with 15 year old girls and that's going to get them screwed over. Seriously. In the United States, which has actually happened now we're seeing, I think it was a Qatari or a Saudi, I'm not sure, had to resign from position or something because they can't work in the US with these allegations. I have never been on the the jerky must mean people and I've argued against the pizza means boy and pasta means girls because I know for a fact that was fabricated. However, maybe you're arguing with the wrong person. Files should be released. Trump should not have, have have called it a hoax. Pam Bondi has done a terrible job of this. Dan and Cash have flubbed this miserably as well. And now we're getting more evidence. Videos and pictures of children, little girls in bathtubs. They're censored, but you can still tell it's a little girl in a bathtub that Epstein had for some reason. Clearly they have child abuse abuse materials. We now know that when they were like, no, no, there's no evidence that Epstein was trafficking to any anyone else and Ghislaine was trafficking to Epstein. We now Know, between these conversations, that is likely a high degree of probability. Not true. People talking about going to parties, Noam Chomsky saying, I want $500,000 for my marriage. Trust, trust. And they were like, did you mean 50 or 500? He goes, I mean 500. What did Noam Chomsky do for Epstein on that island that warranted him getting a payment of $500,000? It's all very weird stuff. They are not doing normal things. Normal people do. And Trump was trying to cover it up for whatever reason, calling it a hoax. And my point for you, and we're gonna. The uncensored portion again. I know we gotta go. Is that the whole time we've argued this, you said, massie is wrong and it's a distraction and it's bad faith. And I'm like, why was Noam Chomsky saying, I'm fantasizing about going on your island and you should give me 500 grand? Why was Reid Hoffman saying, I'm going to these parties? Why were they saying torture videos? Why are they talking about getting young girls, the naughty little ones? Why would you name any right wing.
C
Person who's allegedly implicated, though? See, for example, all the panel. You haven't named him, though.
A
We talked about him on the show all last week. I brought up several times.
C
And the people that you just named Reid Hoffman, Noam Chomsky. My point is that when people are talking about these files, they're not talking about the whole of the them. They're just using it to tar and feather their political. Literally everybody. Thomas Massie. Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna. Both of these people are not talking.
A
About it in the Epstein files.
C
No.
A
The way that they name a right wing person in the Epstein files. You're concerned about Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon is not implicated files. Steve Bannon's not implicated in the Epstein files for being trafficking children.
B
Sure.
C
But he is implicated for being friends with a convicted pedophile 2008, which is the same thing that the Pritzker, that Pritzker's cousin did. He was only talking allegedly with Epstein post 2008, and he was still forced to.
A
I cited the people who were presumed to be involved in trafficking.
C
There was an.
A
This is a bad faith. This is bad faith.
C
No, no, it is.
A
I don't know. You're an unreliable narrator who are willing.
C
To talk and be friends.
A
You're an unreliable narrator. When I point out it's bad when I point out that there are people that were talking in ways that sound like they're getting young girls and asking for large sums of money in weird ways you immediately defer to. But what about Bannon's documentary? You're a bad faith actor.
C
No, what about I think you're being bad.
A
What about, what about Ben's documentary? What does Band's documentary have to do with a guy saying, I fantasize about being on your island.
C
I think it's disgusting when people are trying to rehabilitate a convicted pedophile. But it seems like you guys don't cheat.
B
I would agree that that seem to focus on talking.
C
Howard Ludnick, for example.
B
Also, they're not talking in coded language about creepy stuff.
C
Oh, yes, they are. You haven't read his emails. I haven't thousands of emails.
B
I've read all the emails. They're not that bad.
A
And we have talked about Bannon and Lutnick. And when I mention traffickers, you defer to politics and Bannon, you're bad faith. You're bad faith. You're unreliable.
B
I said he never talked to him and then that was a lie. He took his family to the island. So I think the people that are lying about the relationship are the ones that are hiding the most. So, you know, I think it's a possibility that you could be friends with Jeffrey Epstein and not be a pedophile. But when you're using coded language language and talking about weird things like jerky, you're probably the ones that are doing the weird stuff.
A
Like we are going to the uncensored portion of the show right now. So smash the like button, share the show, stay tuned because it's going to get rowdier, I suppose. And we'll talk more about the Epstein stuff. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. The show's gonna be@rumble.com Timcast IRL. Don't miss it. Alex, you want to shout anything out?
B
After hours with Alex Stein, Real America's Voice. It's Monday through Friday, 11pm Eastern. Tonight it's on one hour.
C
Good evening, everybody. Hope you enjoyed the fascinating episode of Tim Cast IRL tonight. I am a lot. Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
A
Phil. Whoa.
C
What is that?
A
The power is going out.
C
Did we the stream drop the Epstein people? The massage are after us. We talk too much about the Epsom stuff.
A
The lights.
C
The monitor flickered for a second.
A
The lights flickering indicate. That wasn't just a single out or anything. That's like a full. Oh, yeah, the TV show.
B
Whoa, that's spooky.
C
No, we talk we're getting too close to the sun. We're getting too close to the sun.
D
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A
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C
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A
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C
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B
And yeah, I'm excited for this after show.
A
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Date: February 17, 2026 | Host: Tim Pool | Featured Guest: Alex Stein
This episode centers on explosive new evidence and fallout from the recently released Epstein files, focusing on the forced resignation of billionaire Thomas Pritzker (Hyatt Hotels Chairman) over exposed Epstein ties. The panel dives into the implications for political elites and media complicity, the nature and interpretation of coded language in Epstein’s communications, and wider discussions about elite corruption, conspiracy theories, media trust, and sensationalism. Guest Alex Stein brings characteristic irreverence and pushes the conversation toward the edge of conspiratorial conclusions. Other topics include media industry decline, cable news’ fading dominance, the Trump/alien disclosure rumors, political figures' gaffes, and a heated back-and-forth on the boundaries of evidence and speculation in high-profile scandals.
[00:57–10:58]
“At every step of the way, the media tried to protect these individuals ... I’m not cutting Trump any slack, either.” [10:19]
[19:28–28:03; 109:00+]
"They're not talking like they're ordering pizza ... it just looks obvious they're doing stuff to kids … if you think it’s bad that they were raping kids, they were doing a lot worse with CP and trading that like a currency." [12:30]
“Why would you need to stop the shipment if it’s just beef jerky you can get at the grocery store?” – Alex Stein [25:16]
"Sure, it's an odd email exchange, but I don't know if this is indicative of child sacrifice." [23:47]
“Yo, there are a bunch of smoothie emails … Why would you fly a smoothie from New York to the island?" – Tim Pool [110:58]
[13:26–16:19]
[17:14–18:14]
"Amy Schumer is in the files ... Now there are articles flying around saying Tony Hawk caught with underage trafficking victims. It's completely fake." [17:14]
[19:28–28:30]
[41:31–54:50]
“Obama is now walking this back … maybe he just didn’t want Trump to steal his thunder.” – Tim Pool [01:15]
[60:00–64:24]
[65:39–73:52]
“Young person’s blood does rejuvenate old peoples’ organs. Legit.” – Tim Pool [106:45]
[84:48–93:24]
[99:26–120:00+]
“A rational person looks at Epstein's conversations around jerky and says, that is not about jerky. I don't know what it is.” [117:01]
"At every step of the way, the media tried to protect these individuals. ... I'm not cutting Trump any slack, either."
— Tim Pool [10:19]
"Why is it illegal to send an email about jerky? ... it's because the FBI knows they're talking about children."
— Alex Stein [22:45]
“If you jump the gun and say they're eating children, it makes people think you're nuts.”
— Tim Pool [25:56]
"Now there are these articles flying around saying Tony Hawk caught with ... underage trafficking victims. It's completely fake."
— Tim Pool [17:14]
“When you look at a picture of Ghislaine Maxwell ... that's a completely different nose ... Did she get a nose job to make her nose bigger? I did not know that was a thing.”
— Tim Pool [33:32]
“The cabal called up before the show and said, this Epstein stuff is really, really bad. Please say something to distract people from it.”
— Tim Pool [46:14]
"If you think you can go, a man can become a woman, ... They diagnose most of the trans people that have autism. So I think that's a huge correlation too."
— Alex Stein [64:16]
“Boomers are about to turn 80. They're about to die... Fox News is going to cease to exist.”
— Tim Pool [86:00]
The tone shifts from serious investigative (Tim, Phil) to irreverent and conspiratorial (Alex Stein), with undercurrents of comic relief courtesy of the show’s banter. Debates get heated, especially between those wishing for strict evidence and those who see circumstantial oddities as proof of systemic rot.
The language remains informal and sometimes provocative, reflecting the “uncensored,” fast-paced style that characterizes Timcast IRL.
This episode grapples with the fallout of the Epstein files, showing how the scandal’s reverberations are exposing elite networks and media failures in both government and industry. The debate over what is “evidence” versus “conspiracy,” and who gets the benefit of the doubt, mirrors wider cultural divisions. The episode ultimately warns of the dangers of both overzealous speculation and institutional coverup—and makes clear: the truth is murky, the emails are odd, and the blowback for those involved (or even adjacent) is far from over.