Epstein Transparency PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, Trump To SIGN Release w/ Ryan Neuhaus

Summary

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Timcast IRL: "Epstein Transparency PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, Trump To SIGN Release w/ Ryan Neuhaus"

Date: November 19, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Ryan Newhouse, Phil Labonte, Tate Brown, Alad Eliyahu

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the breaking news that Congress has overwhelmingly passed the Epstein Transparency Bill, sending it to Trump's desk for signature. The panel dives deep into the implications, skepticism about what the (allegedly "scrubbed") files might reveal, and the political theater surrounding the move. Other hot topics include Trump's viral "Piggy" comment to a reporter, Christian-Muslim clashes in Dearborn, Michigan, America's struggle with immigration and assimilation, rising urban violence, and a lively discussion on the political coalition fracturing on the right. The show balances sharp skepticism with irreverent banter, maintaining Timcast IRL’s signature blend of analysis and internet culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Epstein Transparency Act: Performative or Genuine?

(01:12–19:31)

• Bill Details: Congress passes the Epstein Transparency Bill with near-unanimous support, sending it to Trump. Only one House member votes against.
  • Tim Pool (01:12): “We don’t know exactly what’s in these files or why Trump all of a sudden turned around and said, you know what, let’s release them. … But everybody agrees they’ve been scrubbed a long time ago.”
• Political Theater: Panelists doubt the files will contain new or damning info since potential evidence may have been destroyed.
  • Tim Pool (08:00): “This seems like it’s performative, largely a waste of time. ... [Trump] probably came around and said, okay, fine, release it, because it’s going to be a bunch of nothing, big nothing burgers.”
• Conspiracy Speculation: Near-unanimity in Congress triggers skepticism – it’s seen as “too perfect” and perhaps confirmation the files are sanitized.
  • Phil Labonte (11:40): “I do think people that believe nefarious things are going on about the release are going to believe this is not a complete list … just like with the JFK files.”
• Accountability Concerns: Panel notes public fatigue with scandals that never yield consequences (e.g., Benghazi, Burisma).
  • Ryan Newhouse (19:39): “I think the other thing that really causes fatigue is these things come out and then nothing happens. Like, there’s no accountability.”

Political Maneuvering: Who Benefits?

(12:53–18:23)

• Was the bill an anti-Trump tactic? Some guests argue the bipartisan push is designed to distract or derail Trump’s agenda, with Rep. Thomas Massie and others crossing the aisle.
• Legislative Mechanics: Ryan Newhouse explains procedural inevitability once a discharge petition amassed enough support.

“Piggy” Gate: Trump’s Viral Media Moment

(21:43–32:12)

• The Story: Trump reportedly addressed an ABC reporter as "Piggy" (with debate over whether he said "Piggy" or "Peggy"), sparking outrage.
  • Tim Pool (22:38): “It’s also a weird thing to call some random journalist unless she’s like, a little fat woman.”
  • Phil Labonte (23:37): “It’s disgusting to call a journalist piggy, but it’s perfectly acceptable to call the president of the United States a Nazi.”
• Panel’s Reaction: Mostly amusement; they note hypocrisy in outrage over minor insults vs. routine, extreme attacks on Trump.
• Quote:
  • Tim Pool (24:13): “I wanted to believe it was like this fat woman sitting there being like, ‘Mr. President...’ he’s like, ‘You’re fat,’ and I’m just sitting there laughing. But instead, he just called some thin blonde woman Piggy.”

Political Fatigue & Public Disengagement

(18:24–20:06, 19:31–20:06)

• Growing disconnect between Beltway drama and average Americans, who are weary of cycles of scandal without resolution.
• Tim Pool (19:31): “The political space has largely become, you know what it is? It’s fatigue. … Many people are basically saying, ‘I’ve heard this 800 times already. I don’t care. Give me something new.’”

Urban Violence: America’s Brutality Shift

(44:10–61:06)

• Chicago Immolation Case: Discussion of a woman set on fire on a train, with panelists using it to highlight the breakdown in public order and passivity of bystanders.
• Systemic Failures: The justice system is blamed for protecting criminals and prosecuting those who defend themselves.
  • Phil Labonte (57:57): “The justice system will prosecute you for defending yourself … The system will not prosecute them [criminals].”
• Cultural Causes: Long-form riff on how the US has lost its “healthy brutality”; now, society is brutal to victims and lenient on criminals.
  • Tim Pool (54:50): “How does a culture get to the point where people have no fear that they can bring lighter fluid ... and be on a train and be dousing a woman?”

Immigration, Assimilation, and American Identity

(38:09–43:14, 83:15–89:41)

• "Magic Dirt" Theory Rejected: Panel rejects the idea that merely moving to America creates Americans, citing failures in Iraq and Liberia as evidence.
  • Ryan Newhouse (41:41): “America is not an idea. It’s a nation. … They recognize and understand that their rights don’t just come from parchment.”
• Cultural Concerns: Increasing multi-ethnic enclaves are seen as pressure cookers, not melting pots—it’s leading to more block conflicts (e.g., Dearborn Christian-Muslim clashes).
• Republican Rift: Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie criticized for “softening” on mass deportations and being out of step with the rising generation’s priorities.

Political Fractures on the Right

(72:45–82:13)

• Post-Charlie Kirk Era: The absence of the late Charlie Kirk (Turning Point USA) is linked to increased infighting among conservatives.
  • Tim Pool (77:28): “I think Charlie was a negotiator and a leader… Without him, everyone’s going in various different directions.”
• Tucker Carlson’s Controversial Interviews: Backlash over Tucker’s interview with Nick Fuentes; questions of platforming, ideological gatekeeping, and who defines “woke right.”
• Sustainability of the MAGA Coalition: Concerns that without unity, the right may fracture and lose upcoming elections.
  • Ryan Newhouse (82:13): “I think it has to be. … If not, then you lose 28 and you go to the gulags.”

Notable Lighter Moments

• Dearborn, MI Protests: Christians clashing with Muslims by throwing bacon at Qurans (35:07–38:09).
• "Brutal to the Innocent": Extended riff on American society’s passivity—“we are a brutal people to the innocent.”
• Fake News Olympics: Joking about news hype cycles and making up ridiculous headlines for fun (25:25–25:57).
• Instagram’s Outrageous Meme Content: Tim Pool and panel riff on how offensive/racially charged meme culture has blown past “woke” censorship (69:39–72:44).
• Heritage Foundation Fallout: In-depth talk with Ryan Newhouse on defending Kevin Roberts in cancel culture backlash over defending free speech.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “This seems like it’s performative, largely a waste of time ... release it, because it’s going to be a bunch of nothing, big nothing burgers.”
  Tim Pool, 08:00

• “If it’s too good to be true, it usually is.”
  Tim Pool, 10:03 (on bipartisan support for Epstein bill)

• “I think the emails are like one of the most bizarre parts because it’s like ... Epstein is just emailing, ‘hey you want to go hang out with some kids later?’”
  Tate Brown, 11:09

• “Multiculturalism does not produce a melting pot. It produces a pressure cooker.”
  Ryan Newhouse, 41:41

• “We are a brutal people to the innocent.”
  Tim Pool, 55:36

• “It’s disgusting to call a journalist piggy, but it’s perfectly acceptable to call the president of the United States a Nazi.”
  Phil Labonte, 23:37

• “If you have a population that doesn’t believe in things like property rights, no written Constitution is ever going to make them believe in property rights.”
  Phil Labonte, 40:41

• “We are politicos. ... But the average person is tuning out because ... many people are basically saying, ‘I’ve heard this 800 times already. I don’t care.’”
  Tim Pool, 19:31

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Time | Topic | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:12–11:09 | Epstein Transparency Bill—Political skepticism, conspiracy, performativity | | 11:09–16:05 | Bill’s origins, legislative mechanics, Trump’s response | | 21:43–32:12 | Trump “Piggy” scandal: Media reaction, hypocrisy, and media criticism | | 35:07–38:09 | Christian-Muslim clashes in Dearborn, MI, multiculturalism | | 38:09–43:14 | Immigration, assimilation, and 'magic dirt' theory | | 44:10–61:06 | Urban violence, crime, America's lost self-defense ethos | | 72:45–82:13 | Fracturing of the right, post-Kirk coalition, cancel culture, free speech | | 83:15–92:13 | Immigration again, Gen Z, right-wing culture, Massie/Marjorie Taylor Greene |

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Episode Tone & Style

• Language: Candid, irreverent, heavy on sarcasm and internet culture references.
• Panel dynamic: Skeptical, critical of political theater, occasionally conspiratorial but self-aware; humor interwoven with serious political critique.
• Audience: Politically engaged, internet-savvy listeners weary of mainstream news cycles.

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Closing Thoughts

• The panel unanimously sees the “Epstein files” release as largely symbolic—either scrubbed or orchestrated as distraction.
• There is deep cynicism about political accountability and clear frustration with performative governance.
• Much energy is devoted to dissecting divides within the right, particularly the new tribal lines forming after Kirk’s death and the dissipation of “woke” left power.
• Underlying much of the conversation is a call for realignment to America’s foundational values, law and order, and the importance of unity against cynicism and cultural drift.

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This summary aims to capture the episode as a living political conversation—unfiltered, skeptical, and peppered with humor and cultural commentary in the true spirit of Timcast IRL.

Transcript

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In the weirdest of timelines, the House and the Senate have nearly unanimously voted to pass the Epstein transparency bill.

[Alad Eliyahu]

So.

[Tim Pool]

So they will be releasing all of these Epstein files, whatever they may be. I say near unanimous because one member of the House was like, nah, we ain't doing this. Which is weird, I guess. I mean, everybody's doing it. Why don't you do it too, sir? But he said, that's not how we get things done. Unfortunately for him, that is exactly how things got done. Now we don't know what's exactly in these files or why Trump all of a sudden turned around and said, you know what, let's release them. But I think it's fair to say, whether you're on the left or the right, everybody agrees they've been scrubbed a long time ago. So what is the point of all this? It doesn't speak to the midterms or policy or anything really. But it's the big story today because I guess everyone's exhausted, fatigued, and that's all the Democrats Republicans are going to give us. So there is some other interesting news, of course. Donald Trump called a reporter piggy and conservative, saying, no, no, no, no, her name is Peggy. I don't care. I like that Trump called a reporter piggy. I don't know why he would, but. But sometimes they deserve it. And then in other news, there's Christians protesting Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan, which is also just, it's a crazy news day. They're throwing bacon at Qurans and okay.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I guess, you know, if this is.

[Tim Pool]

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[Ryan Newhouse]

Hey, guys. Ryan Newhouse. You can follow me on Twitter at Ryan M. Newhouse. N E U H A U S.

[Tim Pool]

What do you do?

[Ryan Newhouse]

Former chief of staff for the Heritage Foundation. Right now I'm a pretty good dad. Got four kids, my own, so spending some time with them.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. We got Tate hanging out.

[Tate Brown]

What's going on, guys? Tate Brown here, holding down. Happy to hear with Ryan. Total patriots. It's gonna be a great show. I'm looking forward to it.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Awesome. Tate. It's good to have you, Ryan. Even better to have you. Hey, everybody. Good evening. My name is A Lot Eliyahu. I'm the White House correspondent here at Tim Cast flight.

[Tim Pool]

Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the news from CNN.com Senate unanimously agrees to send Epstein bill to Trump's desk once it's received from the House. Oh boy. The Epstein files. The House passed it almost unanimously. Only one person defective. The Senate unanimously passed it and they're saying Donald Trump signed this bill. According to Courthouse News Service, Congress on Tuesday nearly unanimously passed legislation aimed at shining a spotlight on the federal government's investigation into Epstein. But the push to publish the so called Epstein files is headed to President Donald Trump's desk without changes demanded by skeptical House Republican leadership. Both Democrats and Republicans have long urged Congress to pass legislation directed directing the Trump administration to publish a trove of documents on Epstein. Let me just put it this way, they've got a veto proof majority. Trump's going to sign this. I don't know what the point of this is. Anybody who's been following this for a long time, a great example being Mike Cernovich, whose work actually got the Epstein files released, or I'm sorry, I should say got the Epstein story to this point where they would release the Epstein files, has said they've long destroyed any of the more important or pressing documents. So this seems like it's performative, largely a waste of time. And wait, there's more. Because while Donald Trump has come around and been like, okay, fine, release the files, which I think we're gonna get nothing, we now can trust that our liberal friends are going to claim it's the bad move. So here's Brian Krasnstein on cue to say my question about the release of the Epstein files. What stops Trump from classifying any material he doesn't want released? And then Pam Bonnie not releasing it. What stops Pam Bonnie from claiming anything with Trump's name on it would be national security risk? Will other member of Congress, other members of Congress from both parties get to see unredacted versions of whatever she redacts or classifies? You see, the funny thing is this guy's been screaming about Trump releasing the files. As soon as they say, okay, fine, we'll release the files, it's just not good enough. It's a fake story. The Epstein case is obviously real. I want the evidence, everybody should. But I believe it was probably destroyed. And I think this is principally distraction. And the reason Trump probably came around and said, okay, fine, release it, is because it's going to be a bunch of nothing big, nothing burgers.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I mean, I agree, I think there's probably nothing in it, but I think it's good because at least the American people get to see whatever they release, right? And then I think the question after this is accountability, right? Is there anything that's actually going to be forced from an accountability mechanism? And I think you saw the beginnings of that today with, you know, I think it was Representative Green in the House who issued the censor resolution. And I think, you know, if members of Congress are communicating with Jeffrey Epstein, there should be accountability for that. And I think the American people would want to see that.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Totally. I suspect that those who are crazed over the Jeffrey Epstein scandals will not be satisfied by anything that is found in these release files. I suspect Candace Owens still won't be satisfied with this. Unless people get the maximalist conspiracy, conspiracy theory around Jeffrey Epstein. If Israel, Mossad and the CIA are not involved in a honeypot of 50 senators and 100 congressmen, then people will not be satisfied here. So I suspect that will continue to be the case here.

[Tim Pool]

Let me, let me try my conspiracy for a minute. If you guys, if you just entertain this. Why are they releasing the files now like this? Don't you guys think it's weird that every Republican and Democrat, except for one, but almost all of them agreed to release this? That seems strange. I don't buy it.

[Alad Eliyahu]

They'd only release a rigged one where all of the House, everybody in Congress supported it. This would have to be the scrubbed down version.

[Tim Pool]

We have to go with the no matter what they do, it's always the wrong thing angle of the conspiracy. Everything they do is evidence of the conspiracy. So in this regard, the conspiracy theory is, or the evidence is all of them agreeing to release it is too perfect. And if it's too good to be true, it usually is.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Totally.

[Tim Pool]

That says to me they're all in on it and they're planning on releasing fake files. This proves it. Actually I'll be completely real because it is a little conspiratorial. I actually don't completely disagree with that. The fact that Democrats, Republicans are all like, yeah, we're all on board with this says politicking nonsense. They're not going to give us real information. The government is not going to release proof or details. It seems like if I had to make a bet, the, the DOJ Democrats, Republicans or otherwise have going back years long destroyed any of the more significant documents. And now they're going to, they're going to release thing that makes, release stuff that makes Epstein look bad but won't give you the names of any of his accomplices or associates or other intel assets.

[Tate Brown]

I think the emails are like one of the most bizarre parts because it's like, first of all, you have Congressmen just emailing him about recipes and stuff. It's the most bizarre stuff. And then also People will install three VPNs and have 20 different passwords to use a burner. Twitter. Meanwhile, Epstein is just emailing, hey, you want to go hang out with some kids later?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Best Jeff.

[Tate Brown]

And it's like out in the open, I'm like, this guy was so shameless with everything. That's what I was reading through the emails. That's what was the most shocking thing to me.

[Phil Labonte]

The interesting thing I find is not the actual release of the files, because I do think I agree with you a lot that the people that believe that nefarious things are going on about the release are going to believe that this is not a complete list. They're going to say, well, there's only some parts that have been released. It's not the full list. And people are going to take it as confirmation bias, the same way they did with the release of the JFK files. People that are like, oh, you know, people found in the JFK files what they were looking for, regardless of whether it was there or not. And I think this is going to be, you know, another situation like that. But Shane was talking last night about Epstein's contacts with other foreign entities and people that he's been involved with. I think that that's the more interesting part of it because that kind of stuff speaks to the corruption that was involved as opposed to the. What is largely known, the stuff that he was, you know, he was in jail, right? Trafficking.

[Tate Brown]

All right, that was my point. The emails, too, is like, that just eludes the level of sloppiness. That could explain why some of the timeline here is just like, weird. It's like, yeah, you can attribute a lot of this to just carelessness, sloppiness, cockiness, a lot of these different things.

[Alad Eliyahu]

So, I mean, I think since there's consensus here that this is widely regarded as an attempt by Democrats and others to derail the Trump agenda, it really begs the question why RINO Congressman Thomas Massie introduced this bill to the Congress in the first place for any other reason but to try to derail the Trump agenda. And I mean, Tim, that's your favorite congressman who introduced this bill.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's, he's.

[Tim Pool]

Massey, he's a good congressman's great. And Ro Khanna.

[Alad Eliyahu]

And this bill is a distraction from the Trump agenda.

[Tim Pool]

This bill I gave you a little bit for sure. I think the issue is that Democrats were the ones who initiated this. And Massey's like, okay, release them.

[Alad Eliyahu]

No, no, no, he introduced it. He co sponsored the introduction with Ro Khanna.

[Tim Pool]

Democrats decided that Donald Trump was implicated in Epstein and started putting up billboards of Trump and Epstein as friends. And this ignited the Trump Epstein saga. Even though this was happening under the Biden administration and the first Trump administration, it seemed largely that Democrats didn't have a play politically. I can't tell you what they're campaigning on as a party. And so then of course, Massie's like, I'm going to introduce this bill. Ro Khanna said, I'm going to introduce. Introduce a bill. And then we got to this point where it's like, I don't know if there's. I would say half, half a distraction because I don't know what's going on anyway, to be completely honest, I don't know what Trump is currently working on. Right. Giving H1BS and Chinese visas without explaining what he's doing for the American people. I respect the tariff fight. He might lose this one in the Supreme Court. The dividends. These are good. It's a good play. I'm a fan of this. This is Congress's board. Republicans clearly are like, yeah, Trump's not threatened by this. And we're over the story.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Sure. It was so first it was the, like, there's roughly a handful of Republicans who were pushing, who are allying with the Democrats to allow this to advance. It was Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie.

[Tim Pool]

And they were there and Republicans didn't want it, and they were like, you know, even Speaker Johnson.

[Alad Eliyahu]

And then when it became inevitable because of Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene and a couple of other Republicans is why Trump had to tell all these other Republicans to flip. So what do you think about those handful of Republicans?

[Phil Labonte]

I would push back on the idea that, that it's inevitable when there's only a handful of Republicans when they're dealing with a body that's 435 members. If it was something that was inevitable, it would have. Would have had popular support in the beginning.

[Alad Eliyahu]

It was inevitable because they just had a special election in Arizona which gave them 218 votes, including Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie. I don't know if it's also had Anna Paulina Luna, but it required those Republicans or they weren't going to be able to advance this. Do you have any. I know you used to work on the Hill a bit. What do you think about this? Inside Politics? Am I crazy here about how Massey introduced this? And, you know, there was a handful of Republicans necessary to advance this legislation, essentially derailing in attempts to derail the Trump agenda, in my estimation. And I mean, that's why the president also has unendorsed Marjorie Trader Greene, who he's calling her now, and an opponent to Thomas Massie.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, I mean from like, if you want to like talk procedure and stuff, which is totally boring. I mean it was inevitable through the sense that like once they had a discharge position, it was petition and the numbers that they needed to get that out the door in the House, like it was going to come to the floor and be debated.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

And it was going to have to be voted on. And if you're a Republican or a Democrat and you know, when Jeffrey Epstein died, that was a national news story. Like every American was like, who is this guy? Who is he connected to? What are you talking about? He was trafficking young girls and all of these wealthy billionaires and businessmen were going to his island. Like, who is this sicko dude and why is he connected to like all of these important people around the world? Right. So like from a trickle down effect, I, I agree with Tim that like, yeah, the Biden administration had these files for the last four years. If Trump was like complicit in any of this stuff in a really damning way, then you know, the. They probably would have released this stuff on their own. Right. To really damage him in our coalition. So I think, you know, it's probably been scrubbed of meaningful things. But I think there was a period of time in which the American people were like very fired up about this issue. So from like a political standpoint, like House, Senate politics, like, yeah, once the discharge petition numbers were there, like it was going to come up and I didn't.

[Alad Eliyahu]

How should we feel about those Republicans who are willing to ally with Democrats to advance this legislation that I think is trying to derail the.

[Phil Labonte]

To your point about it being derailing, if this actually does pass and it comes out and it puts it to bed, doesn't it actually allow the MAGA agenda to move forward?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Well, here's the thing. I don't think it'll put it to.

[Phil Labonte]

Bed again because of the state. The things that we said, no, people.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Will not be satisfied with what is in here.

[Tate Brown]

Well, also, yeah, like part of the legislation is Bondi can redact things if it's threatening a current investigation, et cetera, et cetera. So she's going to have to do that. There's gonna be something in there.

[Phil Labonte]

Obviously it's gonna be specifies for national security.

[Tate Brown]

Precisely. And that's going to just add. Field of the Fire is going to give more oxygen to this. What I mean, even. It's very valid, but in a lot of ways people are using it, they're weaponizing it. So it's going to become a sideshow.

[Phil Labonte]

But the people that are going to say that this is, you know, like we said, the people that are going to say that this is not complete or any redactions mean, et cetera, they're going to say that anyways. Like, that's like being like worried about the Democrats are going to call you names or say that you're a racist because you talk about immigration. That's going to happen. There's no way that there's no world where they don't use this as a political tool. So the best, the best option, as far as I can see, is to put as much information out as possible and say, look, we've put it all out and so now we need to move on. If they're not going to move on, they're not going to move on. Whether or not this information goes, yeah.

[Ryan Newhouse]

It'S going to be a sideshow regard.

[Tim Pool]

I think nobody cares, to be honest. I think obviously the people watching this care because they're concerned about the goings on. But I'd be willing to bet that if we decided to change the thumbnail of the show and the title to actually. Let me, let me, let me do a quick search real quick. Today's title will be Cloudflare. If we, to be fair, I mean, that's a big story and we will talk about it. But I think this is actually much more interesting, people, to be completely honest. If we did USA versus Uruguay. That's how you pronounce Uruguay, by the way. Everyone says Uruguay. It's Uruguay. Then I think we'd get. Or how about warriors versus Magic? All of these have substantially more search volume. The reality is we are politicos. We care about politics, we care about these issues. But I think the average person, person is tuning out because the political space has largely become, you know what it is? It's fatigue. And the fatigue is not that people don't care about the goings on in the world so much, but that many people are basically saying, I've heard this 800 times already. I don't care. Give me something new. And they're going to release nothing because nothing ever happens. We get it and we're going to be bored by it. So welcome to Current politics.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Right now in November, it's really devolving into drama and BS And Ryan, you'd know nothing about that, right?

[Ryan Newhouse]

No, of course not.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Ryan Newhouse]

What are you talking about? Yeah, no, I, I know all about that. But to Tim's point. I think the other thing that really causes fatigue is these things come out and then nothing happens. Like there's no accountability. You have Benghazi, you have Burisma, you have Covid. Right. Like there's all of these events that we've demanded oversight for and nothing occurs. I mean you've got the Biden auto pen scandal going on right now. Yeah. And who's going to be held accountable for that? Is anyone?

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

And what does that even look like? So I think that.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it looks like. It looks like actually, I'm sorry. Cloud flare's trending. Traffic has declined considering, you know it. We're back on the Internet. But. But Google anti gravity is on the rise as a trend and more people care about whatever that is. I'm actually really curious what.

[Tate Brown]

And if you've never heard of the NBA warriors versus Magic sounds really whimsical and exciting.

[Tim Pool]

I want to watch that.

[Phil Labonte]

Warriors man versus sounds like Dungeons and Dragons.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. That's sick. Oh it's like what's basketball? What's going on? Like what is this?

[Phil Labonte]

To your point, Ryan though, like if that's the case. Right. People don't actually like the, the large portion of the, the American population doesn't really care. I think that the, the administration should start focusing on doing whatever it can do to benefit the lives of the everyday American who is having problems paying their bills, who is having problems making ends meet. Cuz that's what's gonna matter in a year when people are going to the midterms.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I just wanted to get this in really quick for the record for the Republican Congress people who forced the vote on these Epstein files before the President asked all Republicans to vote for it. It was spearheaded by Thomas Massie. And then we have Nancy Mace, Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[Tate Brown]

Well, these are people also that they're much more aware, they're much more accountable to online. Their coalition is built off a lot of online things. It's where a lot of their oxyge comes from. So they're going to be more reactive to things that people that are tuning into a lot of these types of shows are and that's just the reality.

[Tim Pool]

I want to talk about what the people care about. So we're jumping to the next story and that is from the Daily Beast. White House tries to defend Trump's piggy insult. Tries to defend. I could defend.

[Phil Labonte]

I just want to know who he called piggy.

[Tim Pool]

All right, you guys ready for this? You ready for this? Why is this news? I. You Know, I gotta tell you, I wake up and I turn on. You know, I come in and I go on. Everyone's like, the Internet is down. And Tate was basically. He was in the fetal position on the ground, crying, being like, without Max, without X, I have nothing. And I said, you're right. Anyway, when the Internet finally comes back, this is the story. Everyone's like, trump called a reporter piggy. I guess now they're saying he's calling her Peggy. He said, quiet, Peggy. He was saying Peggy, not piggy. Pe.

[Phil Labonte]

I want to believe that he said piggy, because that's the Donald Trump that I love.

[Tim Pool]

And it's also a weird thing to call some random journalist unless she's like, a little fat woman.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

A gordita.

[Tate Brown]

She's a little on the porky side. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I think that means little fat woman. Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

In Spanish.

[Tim Pool]

Gordita.

[Phil Labonte]

But I mean, like, that's the. That's the. The thing that people love about Donald Trump. The. The fact that he'll take it to the media that he'll call him names, he'll. He'll do Trump thing and. And, you know, insult the media who constantly insults him. Like that, to me, is just red meat to the base.

[Ryan Newhouse]

The American people don't like political correctness.

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Tate Brown]

Here's.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the report they say. This is. Lucy was asking if there's nothing incriminating the file, sir. Why not? And he says, before it says. Before she could finish, however, Trump pointed his finger at her and barked, quiet, Quiet, Piggy. The remark was roundly blasted as disgusting. Oh, shut.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I don't care.

[Tim Pool]

You know what I think this is? Liberalism is female coded and conservatism is male coded.

[Phil Labonte]

It's disgusting to call a journalist piggy, but it's perfectly acceptable to call the president of the United States a Nazi.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, come on. Bull.

[Phil Labonte]

I bs. I don't. I like. It is far more offensive to imply that Donald Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler than it is to call a journalist piggy.

[Tim Pool]

The woman is actually fairly gaunt. I mean, you know, I'm more disappointed that Trump called a thin woman a piggy.

[Tate Brown]

Maybe she was like.

[Tim Pool]

I wanted to believe it was like this fat woman sitting there being like, Mr. President, he's like, you're fat, and I'm just sitting there laughing. But instead, he just called some thin blonde woman piggy. Did she? It's funny either way.

[Tate Brown]

That's. I think it's potential, like, pickup tactic.

[Tim Pool]

No, Piggy. Yeah, it's called a negative. Yeah, Nagging.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, exactly. And then you deploy that you combo at the bill Ackman. Like, may I meet you and just. Oh, may I meet you, piggy. Like W Riz. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then she leaves being like, I am a big fan of Donald Trump.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yep.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And that's how Trump does it.

[Alad Eliyahu]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

It's the Riz. Is that what you said?

[Tate Brown]

Trump W R is Trump's Riz.

[Tim Pool]

The women. The women just can't. Can't handle it.

[Tate Brown]

You know, the hus. Can't resist. In this case, the puzz. Piggy.

[Tim Pool]

Piggy scolds.

[Tate Brown]

If you go to the top of the article, they say, Trump 79. Like, he's like a random guy. What are we doing here?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

So an old guy and it's fine.

[Tate Brown]

Also, look at the piggy's man calls woman piggy.

[Tim Pool]

Look at the picture that they chose to use of Trump.

[Tate Brown]

Dude, he's saluting a horse. He's loyal to horses. Pigs. Disgusting farm animals. Horses. Patriotic, aristocratic.

[Tim Pool]

I'm sure he's saluting the people who are on the horse. But that is what they're trying to make it look like. The question I have is why? Guys, I don't need to ask the question. The reason this is news is because everybody is bored and there's nothing to talk about.

[Phil Labonte]

That's true. I think that's probably.

[Tate Brown]

Let's make up some news. Two countries.

[Tim Pool]

Trump did a backflip and landed in a superhero pose.

[Tate Brown]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

In the rose Garden.

[Tate Brown]

Well, up.

[Tim Pool]

So, I mean, actually is the rose garden. Oh, actually I'll do that.

[Tate Brown]

Like two random. Let's just like make a. Dude. Nauru declared war on Madagascar. Dude, it's over.

[Phil Labonte]

We can always talk about Venezuela on Wakanda, bro.

[Tate Brown]

That's what these, like, these Brics people do. They're like, the Marshall Islands just signed a trade deal with Bangladesh. It's so over for the West. We could just start doing that kind of stuff. That'd be fun.

[Tim Pool]

You know what I like, we can do the content where you basically just find something that you find a vagary and then just act like it's weird. This is what I. You know, actually there's a lot we can talk about in this regard because people are sending me all these videos about Turning Point USA related to finances and all the conspiracy theories. And I've largely not talked about a lot of them. Not to get into specifics on that. But what I find with a lot of these conspiracy videos is it'll be like something. Something like a Lot will show up.

[Alad Eliyahu]

To do the show.

[Tim Pool]

Like, I'm just giving a hypothetical. And then like in the middle of the show, he'll be like, hold on a second. I'll be, sorry, guys, I'll be right back. And that. That's it. And it's like, maybe he's. Maybe he's got the Hershey squirts, who knows? But then people, what you do is for the conspiracy show, be like, isn't it weird that a lot ran out from the show?

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What's he doing? Why won't he show us what this call was? Show us your co log Zilad. Who were you talking to?

[Phil Labonte]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

It was Israel.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, my God.

[Tim Pool]

And, and, and in reality, it actually was Israel. A Lot is on the phone with him quite a bit. So I'm just, you know, giving hypothetical.

[Tate Brown]

The whole country.

[Tim Pool]

This is, this is how you entertain. That's how you enter. You gotta, you gotta find something. Like, there's like a Coke can on the ground all mashed up. And you're like, isn't that strange?

[Phil Labonte]

It's just one. Why is there a Coke with everyone in Israel?

[Tate Brown]

Like, yo, a lot. That was sick on the show last night, dude. I think you won support back. Like, great work. We're going back into Gaza. Thanks, dude.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I think, like, are you not entertained?

[Alad Eliyahu]

I wish I had that kind of power. Like, I pulled no strings here.

[Tate Brown]

Like, dude, a lot.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Zero pull.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this. I just. Can I show you how funny this is? If you search for the word piggy. Lord have mercy. A guardian. Here's him pointing his finger in the face. Trump faces criticism for referring to female Bloomberg reporter as piggy. Trump, who just called a female reporter piggy, rages at ABC News journalist. Trump told him in quiet. Piggy. It was. Was there a memo? You know what? You know, it's funny when they say they got the call, the journalists got the call.

[Phil Labonte]

They did.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Oh, totally. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like, the Soros called them and said, I guess Trump called a piggy. So everyone get mad and they're like, you got a bus? And then they all go to their media. I'm kidding about Soros calling them. But some, some of these journalists are going to write that anyway because they're nuts.

[Phil Labonte]

He sends emails. I'm not making phone calls.

[Tim Pool]

Is he still around? His son's doing.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah, he just. Actually, he tells Alex to go ahead and.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, wait, what is this? They're also saying Trump, who just called the female reporter piggy, rages at ABC News journalists for being too mean to him so true.

[Tate Brown]

Don't be mean to him, okay?

[Phil Labonte]

It's been 10 years of them being mean.

[Tate Brown]

I know it's unacceptable.

[Donald Trump]

It's not the question that I mind. It's your attitude. It's the way you ask these questions. You start off with a man who's highly respected asking him a horrible, insubordinate and just a terrible question.

[Tim Pool]

Insubordinate.

[Donald Trump]

And yeah, you could even ask that same exact question nicely. You're all psyched up. Somebody psychs you over at abc, you're going to psych it. You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter.

[Ryan Newhouse]

As far as the Epstein, so good at it.

[Donald Trump]

I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert. And I guess I turned out to be right. But you know who does have Bill Clinton. Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his island many times. I never did. Andrew Weissman. I hear all these guys were friends of his. You don't even talk about those people. You just keep going on the Epstein files. And what the Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion that I talked about today.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, here, here.

[Donald Trump]

It's a hoax. Now, I just got a little report and I put it in my pocket. Of all the money that he's given to Democrats, he gave me none, zero, no money to me, but he gave money to Democrats. And people are wise to your hoax. And ABC is, is your company, your crappy company is one of the perpetrators. And I'll tell you something, I'll tell you something. I think the license should be taken away from ABC because your news is so fake and it's so wrong. And we have a great commissioner, the chairman, who should look at that. Because I think when you come in and when you're 97% negative to Trump and then Trump wins the. The election in a landslide, that means obviously your news is not credible and you're not credible as a reporter. So.

[Tim Pool]

That's a good point.

[Donald Trump]

I've answered your question. You should go and look at the Democrats who received money from Epstein, who spent their time. Larry Summers was, was with him all the time. That creep of the fund guy was with him all the time. What's his name?

[Tim Pool]

Reid Hoffman. Who?

[Donald Trump]

Reid Hoffman. I don't know Reid Hoffman, but I know he spends a lot of money on the radical left Reid Hoffman. In my Opinion should be under investigation. He's a sleazebag. And those are the people. But they don't get any press. They don't get any news. And you're not after the radical left because you're a radical left network. But I think the way you ask the question with the anger and the meanness is terrible. You ought to go back and learn how to be a reporter. No more questions from you.

[Tate Brown]

So true.

[Phil Labonte]

No soup for you.

[Tate Brown]

I love that. Just mid rant, he, like, collects the sauce. He's like, you're just a terrible person.

[Tim Pool]

I love that.

[Alad Eliyahu]

So I'm not going to lie. My biggest fear as a White House correspondent is asking a question to the President, having him say, what outlet are you with? And then calling me fake news and saying, I should be out of here.

[Tate Brown]

Dude.

[Alad Eliyahu]

He'll like, do that every time with.

[Tim Pool]

Tim cast and be like, I don't like that Weasley little mother.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Are you kidding? You'd be flattered if he said that. He'd say, I've never heard of that. Go work for a real company. That's what he said to a couple of other outlets.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, really?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But. But what you got to do is my advice to you. You have to say, Mr. President, two questions, actually. A statement and a question. You're brilliant. I love you. Your hair is fantastic. About the tariffs. Do you think you're going to make it to the Supreme Court?

[Alad Eliyahu]

He loves it when the reporters glaze him. But I refuse to. And he'll make a mockery of it, too. When a reporter will ask us, they're journalists in the White House, course. But like, who got put in the pool? Who asked questions like that? And he'll say, look how wonderful this person is. This is my favorite reporter. And it's a little bit too on the nose for me. And I think he doesn't respect it either.

[Tate Brown]

If he ever, like, gets like, really mad at you and then he's like, what organization you with? You just like, abc, we'll give you a license.

[Alad Eliyahu]

We're sorry.

[Tim Pool]

Or you just got to be like, Mr. President, question. As the greatest president of my lifetime, how do you feel the Supreme Court potentially striking down your tariffs? Tim, just whatever the question is, add with, as the greatest president of my.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Generation, you guys are doing it wrong. Mr. President, as the most pro Israel president that has ever existed, why do you support Israel and the Jewish people so much? In a time of rampant anti Semitism, why are you standing up for the Jewish people so fervently?

[Phil Labonte]

Why are you so brave and masculine to stand up when. When it's. It's such a.

[Tim Pool]

And handsome hot.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

President Trump, you call me piggy. I'm kind of into that.

[Tim Pool]

Mr. President, as the most handsome president of my generation, do you have concerns over your. Your staunch support of Israel being taken by anti Semites and used against you in the midterms? Also you, you look fantastic.

[Tate Brown]

I. A lot. I desperately need you. If you get a question, say President Trump, gay son or thought daughter. Because the. The country wants to know. The country wants to know where he lines up on that already.

[Alad Eliyahu]

People talked a lot of shit to me when I asked what is a woman? That was one of my first questions I was trying to start off easy with.

[Tim Pool]

That was great though. He loved it.

[Alad Eliyahu]

And then a lot of reporters were like, oh, you get an opportunity to ask the President a question. Like that's what you question on.

[Tim Pool]

And he said, someone who's much smarter than me.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

See, that's like a 50s answer. You know what I mean? Like men pretending that women were smarter than them.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, make believe.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah. It's hard to feel bad for any of these journalists because they're actually in a hyper privileged position to be in any of those. These locations to begin with. I desperately wanted to be in the gap in the pool when Mohammed bin Salman was here earlier today. They had the opportunity to go in there and ask questions to them. If you're ever on Air Force One, you. You have to have a lot of money to able to pay to be on there. It costs money to be on there and that's a barrier to entry. But then for them to give you that access and then let you to be on there, you know, to be able to ask the President questions, you're in a position of power. These are, all these people are hyper privileged and lucky to be there.

[Tate Brown]

Beyond that, I saw it was like Rebecca, the Blaze reporter, she got like free McDonald's.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Trump, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Like what are they?

[Alad Eliyahu]

What's going on?

[Tate Brown]

It's like I want to hang out.

[Alad Eliyahu]

He only does that for young, beautiful women. I haven't gotten free McDonald's. They might think I keep.

[Tate Brown]

You got to glaze a little more.

[Alad Eliyahu]

That's what it is. No, I can't. I can't glaze out. Right.

[Tim Pool]

You should, you should bring McDonald's to him.

[Donald Trump]

I can't.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I don't have diverse it on him. I was thinking of trying to go to the Wranglers though with flowers or something.

[Tim Pool]

You know, you should do Is Caroline.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Levitt, I could get her to sign up.

[Tim Pool]

No, no. When you go to the Oval Office next time and like Trump's gonna be there, bring two like Big Macs and literally be eating one as you ask your question. I actually brought one for you, Mr. President. My question for you is he's gonna be like, oh, thank you. I love these things. You saw that he did that McDonald's summit and he said like, I've been a great customer or something like that for a long time.

[Tate Brown]

He was like, I'm the first fry cook to be president.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's right. The first fry cook who later went on to become president.

[Tate Brown]

So true.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this story, this weird story. Protests in Dearborn. Anti Islam activists clash with Muslim residents. Well, my understanding is they're Christians that are, that are clashing. And we have this video from Nick Shirley. I think this is the right video, right? This is, he says, happening now. Christian and Islamic protesters are clashing in Dearborn. Qurans have been hit with bacon and burning attempts of the Quran have happened. This could get ugly.

[Tate Brown]

Speaking of piggy, right now here in.

[Tim Pool]

Dearborn, Michigan, you have a group of Christian protesters who have came out here to Dearborn as it is the number one city for Islam here in the United States, as it is one of the only towns here in the United States where the majority of the population belongs to the religion of Islam. Some people have been attacked. One man attempted to burn the Quran as he beat the Quran with bacon. The police have now shown up. Counter protesters are over here. You have Palestinian protesters, Islamic protesters. And it has gone wild here. People have been pepper sprayed. Cam Higby was pepper sprayed. And you're also seeing they got street takeovers as well as people have blocked off all of the road. And now traffic is coming through and we got. Yes sir, I got you. And right now you have a bunch of people and it's only about 3:30 right now. It could get wild here in Dearborn, Michigan. We'll see what happens.

[Phil Labonte]

Who would have thought the crusade, crusade, 2025, we're going to be in the United States taking back Dearborn, Michigan.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. 3:00pm you know what this reminds me of?

[Tim Pool]

I want to show off this Far side comic to the Davos Group and the World Economic Forum so they can understand. Dearborn, Michigan. It's a comic from the far side where there's two aliens and one says, zorek, you idiot, you've mixed incompatible species in the earth terrarium. And it's an earth terrarium with a Grizzly bear eating a hunter. And my point is, when I see Christians and Muslims fighting each other in Dearborn, this multicultural democracy idea they have, where they're like, multiculturalism is great until you put two religions next to each other that oppose each other and they start fighting. And we don't want that to happen. Yeah, we are not. You're not going to have an ideology that doesn't like the other ideology, stand at each other, smile and work together. And that's the problem of polarization in this country is because the more. The more entrenched the ideology gets, the more likely you're going to get towards. The higher the chance of getting towards violence. Well, what they've done in this country is they've created enclaves of various groups like a Somalis in Minnesota, Minneapolis, and now Islam in Muslims in Dearborn and in these surrounding areas, you're going to have American Christians and you're going to have a growing influence of Islam and there's going to be a clash of ideas because there's going to be people in the American traditionalist side being like, hey, what you're doing to those little girls is not good. Not saying, like, literally every Muslim's gonna do that. But there's practices in Islam that Americans will not tolerate or even illegal that are happening there in Dearborn. This idea of mixing all these cultures in terms of, like, putting them next to each other does not work. You will get people to fight.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, I mean, like the Democrats, you expect them to support this, obviously, because they subscribe to the blank slate theory, these sorts of things. But even the Republicans are completely to blame for this because for the longest time, the dialogue, even Republicans are endorsing mass migration. They're like, well, we'll just give them like a pocketbook constitution and they'll become as American as anybody else. And this is every single time you see a story like this where you've imported some sort of old world conflict into America, it's just a reminder that, like, no, there actually is something intrinsic to being an American. It's a little bit deeper than just like general, vague subscription to, like, liberty and freedom. It's like, yeah, most people are like, on board with that. There's a little more to. We got to dig a little more. That's like, that's why the last question Charlie Kirkley posed, the movement is what is an American? Because as our borders have been open for so long, they're going to see more and more of this and that question is going to cry out for an answer more and more and more. Totally.

[Ryan Newhouse]

And I think, I think there's a huge problem in America with assimilation.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Right now, like, what are people assimilating to? Right. It's that question of what does it mean to be an American actually provides an answer that, like, they're not assimilating to our traditions.

[Tim Pool]

I just.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Foundations.

[Phil Labonte]

I just watched a podcast with Nick Fr and Oren McIntyre and Oren had a great, great thought about this. The, the idea that you can just come to the United States and like, we have magic dirt. You're going to automatically become, you know, a Jeffersonian, you know, democracy lover. This was, and I've said this before, this was, was solidly, this idea was solidly proven wrong when the United States invaded Iraq.

[Tim Pool]

Right. You threw dirt on people and nothing happened.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, they didn't, you know, you brought them democracy. And what did you get? Not a Jeffersonian democracy.

[Tim Pool]

I just need to pause right there and say, we tried that with Liberia along.

[Phil Labonte]

We did, we did.

[Tim Pool]

This is so, this, this Liberia has been known for a long time.

[Phil Labonte]

The Liberian Constitution almost completely is a mirror image of our, of ours. It's almost the exact same thing. And it didn't turn into the United States.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So that makes sense. How's that possible?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, you know, it takes a certain, certain, it take a certain kind of people that are looking for the type of government that we have. And it's like you've said before, the Constitution, it doesn't make people love the Constitution. Right. If your Constitution is in the people and they believe in the Constitution. If you have a population that doesn't believe in things like property rights.

[Tate Brown]

No.

[Phil Labonte]

No written Constitution is ever going to make them believe in property. Property rights.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I mean, it doesn't work because America is not an idea. It's a nation. It's a people with a shared heritage and that recognize and understand that their rights don't just come from parchment.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

It's not just the Constitution. It's, it's from God and it's a shared belief in that creator and those specific rights that are bestowed upon them. And they come with duties. Right. And I, I think, you know a lot. For a long time we've had this post World War II consensus that, like America is an experiment, it's a city on a hill. You had, you know, the George Bush second inaugural address, where we're going to take this to the world. Right. That's a failure. Neoconservatism was one of the most, I think, misguided and destructive ideologies that seeped into the right in, in just like American political history. And it's done untold damage. You've lost treasure, you've lost lives, and you've lost purpose. And you know, for a long time people talked about America as a melting pot. Multiculturalism does not produce a melting pot. It produces a pressure cooker. And this is what that creates.

[Phil Labonte]

It produces enclaves. It produces, it produces enclaves of people that have like, like minded, you know, cultures and they believe that they, they want to have their society in a larger, broader society.

[Tate Brown]

This is like the, this is where the conversation needs to move. Because when you're like talking about immigration, why we should restrict immigration, everyone is in agreement, or, you know, a lot of people on the right are in agreement that like, okay, so there's some economic impacts like housing, jobs, etc. Etc. But we also need to like, stop shaming people for having like, concerns about the culture of their country changing. Like immigration as a British person radically alters your culture because the demographic composition of your country is a very valid complaint to have, a very valid concern to have. And so I'm really tired of people that are supposedly on our side like, tone policing everybody over saying like, yeah, you know what, it would be nice if New York City, like, didn't, like, Zoron wouldn't be a thing, because Zoron actually is assimilated. He's assimilated to New York City. That is what New York City looks like in 2025. Zoron's actually a great representation of what New York City in 2025 looks like. Go to Queens, it's half foreign born. Same thing with Elon Omar. Elon Omar is actually a great example of what Minneapolis looks like. It's like a quarter Somali. So it's like, yeah, I think immigration economics aside, we're all in agreement there. The cultural component is a perfectly valid concern. To have you change the people out, the culture's gonna change. It's not this magical thing that floats around that you absorb like in the air. It's in you.

[Phil Labonte]

Another thing that Oren was saying in that podcast, he was saying just because you have someone that comes to the United States, they shouldn't automatically think that they're going to become a citizen. And he was saying, you know, maybe he's like, just because you, you get a green card and you're allowed to live here doesn't mean that you'll become a citizen. Doesn't mean that you should, you should expect to be able to vote. Maybe your grandkids will.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, but the idea that, you know, you come to the United States and you become a citizen and you automatically get a say, you're getting franchisement and you get a say in how this country is, is, you know, what the government's like and what kind of laws are passed like that shouldn't be the way that we run our country.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. What kind of, what kind of empire historically would allow a foreigner to come to that country who like, bothered to get a citizenship like five years ago and then take over the seat of that empire? Like, like, on what planet are we doing that? And that's exactly what's happening right now. Zoron.

[Tim Pool]

We used to be a much more brutal people.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And we look back on these things often with derision and regret. And I think there are many circumstances in which circumstances in which we should. But I also think there's many circumstances in which we should not. And that is this idea. I'll put. What I mean to say is this. If you were at a bar or restaurant and let's just go back, I don't know, maybe the 60s, 70s, you're with your wife and a guy walked up and said something untoward to your wife, the. The guy would punch him in the face. No cops would be called, and everyone would be like, don't talk about a man's wife like that today. It's just like pure litigious. You know what, Everyone puts their hands up and like, what do we do? The criminal runs. You know, someone will steal money from vegetarian. Everyone's like, better not do anything about it. You've got this story where the. A guy tried shoplifting from a spirit Halloween. And when the security guard stopped him, fight breaks out. And when the criminal is on top of him, punching him, the security guard shoots the guy and gets charged. So a criminal tried robbing a place and the security guard doing his job to stop him is getting beaten by the guy, shoots him in self defense, and they charge the security guard. That's what I mean by we are not a brutal people in the right way anymore. We've gone too far in the other direction. And now we're basically like, no, no, don't like the criminals. It's not their fault. Have we stopped to ask what socioeconomic factors made the guy try to steal from the store?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, the brutality is permitted for like the lowest common denominator. Like there is a proportion of the country, like the homeless people that are just, in general, just delinquents. Like they're permitted to just impose brutality on the rest of the country and we're just like supposed to take it and like hope that they just stop because. Have you no heart?

[Ryan Newhouse]

Have you no heart?

[Tate Brown]

They read a pamphlet.

[Tim Pool]

Let me pull this right from the. From the Associated Press. Man sets fire to a woman on a Chicago L train before fleeing, police say. And the only question I have is what socioeconomic factors led this man to incinerate, to immolate this, this woman. This poor man. This poor, poor man. You know what? It was our fault. He did this.

[Alad Eliyahu]

No, he did.

[Tim Pool]

We should all apologize.

[Alad Eliyahu]

It's pretty sure this was for Palestine.

[Tim Pool]

I was joking, but for real, probably. Do we know anything about him?

[Ryan Newhouse]

Who is this guy?

[Tim Pool]

Let me read this story. Here's a story. They say a man doused a woman with fluid and set her on fire. I don't mean to take this lie. I mean it's a horrifying story, right? Leaving her in critical condition. The attack happened Monday night in a Blue Line train. Witnesses told the investigators a 26 year old woman and a man believed to be in his 40s began arguing and the man then doused her with a liquid. With a liquid and set her on a light. When the train pulled into the Clark and Lake stop, the man fled and the woman stumbled out and fell to the ground, police said, noting she was taken to a hospital. A person of interest in the attack was taken into custody like many other. So is there another story on like the argument? I'm sure there is. I'll try and find it. But I was mocking the circumstances around our lax society and how it's come to the point where you had a street immolation. A guy had lighter fluid on him. Like what is going on?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, because the argument precedes the lighting on fire. So presumably he had it on his inventory already. And then I don't know, either he's picking a fight or he's just like, I don't want to carry a firearm. If I get in a fight, I'll just light someone on fire.

[Alad Eliyahu]

This is a serious story. The joke is actually distasteful. Now I feel bad.

[Tim Pool]

The joke is distasteful.

[Alad Eliyahu]

My joke? Yeah. What you. He did it for Palestine.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, you were joking. Yeah, I thought you were. Literally because they got into an argument over something. I thought there was a news story saying they were arguing because that guy.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Who self immolated a couple of years ago, you forgot.

[Tim Pool]

Or there's the other story where. You mean the other story where the Guy went up to the Pro Israel people and doused them with. With.

[Alad Eliyahu]

No, no, there was another guy.

[Tim Pool]

I get your point. I'm saying.

[Alad Eliyahu]

This is.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just saying why make the joke when someone literally already. That's why I thought you were being serious.

[Alad Eliyahu]

No, yeah, yeah, no. That's why it was distasteful.

[Tim Pool]

My point ultimately was very distasteful.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I don't pull the strings.

[Tim Pool]

It is insane. Yeah, they just say verbal altercation. I thought you were literally saying. Because maybe AP was omitting that fact because they would do something like that. But there was a verbal altercation. 26 year old woman and a 45 year old man and he poured a liquid on her and ignited it.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I try not to beef with randos on the street, especially with people with nothing to lose. Those are the people who you want to argue with the least. If they look like they have nothing to lose, you just got to take it, drop your ego, walk away. Especially from the usual suspects. Homeless looking people.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I learned during COVID in D.C. when it was like me and just the tweakers on the Metro, that you just don't interact with anyone on the trains. You just don't like. There's a ton of people who just camp out and ride all day long that are ready to lose it.

[Tim Pool]

This is, this is a lesson you learn in Chicago. My friends from the suburbs would road rage all the time. And I was like, you will be shot and murdered. I'm like, if you are in my car, don't scream and hang out the window at another vehicle because they will pull a gun and put a bullet in your face. You just let them, let them honk, rage or cut you off. It's not worth it, bro. I've been driving down the street in Chicago and a guy just pointed a gun out of his car and just shot at me and my brother for no reason. No, no reason whatsoever. Don't give them one. This is Chicago. It is insane. This is what we get. You know, it's really funny, guys. I have a funny. I have a funny add on to this story. I'm gonna pull this up on X. I didn't know this. I just found out recently that I had made this post about crime by political party that went massively viral and I, I was not aware. I have it right here actually. And we'll throw this into the mix. And what I said was this, this is what violence rates look like depending on political party. How effing weird. Am I right? When you get rid of fringe wackos and count crime by party control. It looks a lot different. I literally said by party control. The graph literally says total violence rates for the sum of cities. This is 2023 combined violent rates by party. The graph is when I chat GPT and I said of the top most populous cities, give me a graph showing total crime by party control. And this is what you get. This is a. This is. This is the data in the top cities. Most of them are controlled by Democrats. And you know what the response I get is? Well, this chart is only true because Democrats run most cities. And I'm like, that's literally my point. I don't understand. How is that, how is that an argument to what I'm making? I'm making the point you are getting a massive amount of crime because Democrats are running the cities. Like, do you.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Do you agree?

[Tim Pool]

Well, here's the funny part, snopes, it's got 26.3 million views. I didn't know it got so much attention. I tweeted it and just forgot about it. But Snopes did a breakdown and they were basically saying Tim Pool's data is misleading as it doesn't actually clarify what's going on, blah, blah, blah. So they made their own graph which shows literally the same thing. Combined violent crime rates by mayoral party of the 13 U.S. cities of the highest crime instances. And it's even lower for Republican. The point is, in a city where the population votes Republican, crime is. There is less crime. And on average, the point of the chart was not to say Republicans commit less crime than Democrats. It was to say Democrats control all of the major cities and this is where crime is happening. My expectation from this, because we've gone over the data before, a separate chart, is that in cities where you have a Republican mayor, crime is actually lesser. So you don't need to look at the top 13 cities. Look at West Virginia. Crime is lower on average here than in other places. You look at all of the major blue cities and that is where most of the crime is occurring. The reason I put this together is because there was a story from the Washington Post a couple years ago that said when you track per capita and when you track volume, Democrat cities have the highest per capita and the highest volume of crime. And there was only one city at the time, it was San Diego, that was run by a Republican that made it to the top and it had a lower than average crime by per capita and by volume. And they argue. But by volume doesn't make sense because there's a lower population. Agreed. Per capita. Then this is what you get in places like Chicago. Look, man, here's the question for you guys and for the audience. And you guys can comment. How do you feel about living in a society where you are told, if someone begins to berate you or threaten you, shut up and just do as you're told?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Feel bad. I want to live in a world with more Daniel Pennies. Oh, for sure.

[Tim Pool]

I have always been more of the mind of growing up in Chicago. The lesson I learned was if you refuse to be weak, they'll leave you alone. And I think this is true because the United States for a while had this ethos in terms of foreign policy. We don't negotiate with terrorists for hostages for anything. But if someone takes a kidnapper in a foreign country, the US Says, they make sure the statement is you will get not a single penny from us. But special forces will rain down at 2 in the morning from a helicopter with night vision and put a bullet in the face of you and your families and rescue the hostages. So what happens? This is what they train in hostile environment. They tell you, if you're an American and you are kidnapped, hang tight, you will be rescued. Now, if you're European, you're going to be sold. Because the European policy is pay whatever the ransom is. So when kidnappers see a foreigner, if they, if they kidnap you and you say, I'm an American, they'll drop you and say, get out of here, go away. Because they know the only thing that's going to happen is a helicopter at 2 in the morning and night vision goggles. But if you say I'm Spanish or I'm German, they'll say payday and they'll take you. That's the macro lesson. Certainly there are instances where if you're walking on the street and some crazy dude threatens you and you try and go to a fight, you might die. That's true. But in my view, the science shows this. We've talked about it before. If you're the kind of person that will be demure when someone comes up to you and threatens you, you say yes, anything you say, you will get robbed more often. And this is why it's spreading. We used to be a more brutal people. We are not anymore. And the reality is this woman was immolated and she's probably going to die. Had she pulled out a knife, she'd be in prison.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, the brutality was all the way up. Like, I mean, the government handled this before. This needed to be handled on the street. That's what looney bins are for. This guy should have been in a loony bin. He's probably distributing some really distressing behaviors. You'd probably be in a rubber Ramada right now if we had society.

[Tim Pool]

That's fair. But in all seriousness, this might just be a guy who, in his view. He's in his 40s. He lived a life he developed in this city. He believes he can do what he wants.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

How does a culture get to the point where people have no fear that they can bring lighter fluid or some kind of flammable liquid and be on a train and be, like, dousing a woman? I gotta be honest. How I understand it's a matter of seconds to splash someone with a liquid and then light them up, but it's still not faster than a stab or something. I'm curious. People don't expect. This is a better way to put it now that it's out there. I gotta say, if someone splashes you with a liquid, run. Or if they're about to splash you, run. It could be an acid attack. It is insane that we have to say this, but this is what our cities have turned into because we have. You know, I take that back. I'm sorry. We are a brutal people to the innocent.

[Tate Brown]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And the Democrats are brutal to those who would seek to protect themselves.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. They literally prioritize the most dysfunctional people. And this doesn't just apply to crime. This applies to everything. Is that the dysfunctional in our society are prioritized with everything. And it's really. And really infuriating. Crime is where it costs people's lives. So that's where it's the most prevalent. Yeah. This guy, presumably, I'll just speak about, like, these homeless. These, you know, mentally disturbed people in general is. They don't even have the mental faculties to even comprehend what the outcome could be of their action. And that's why they need to be institutionalized. They can't even understand that there would be any law that would come down on them. When your IQ is so low, you have zero impulse control, you have zero comprehension of. Of consequences. That's why the breakfast question's a thing. This guy would not be able to answer the breakfast question, though.

[Tim Pool]

No. But again, what if he can? What if this is a person who's of sound mind who just says they will do nothing about this?

[Tate Brown]

It could be, but he would be an exception to the majority of people on the Chicago trains that are walking around that are just ready to snap at any moment.

[Tim Pool]

I think what we've seen, it's fair to say that in a lot of Chicago, with the violence, it certainly is a breakfast question issue. These guys are killing each other because they're being insulted on the Internet.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's funny because for most people, when you go online and we all insult each other, it results in nothing. But in Chicago, you insult somebody, they show up to your house and they. They got switches and they just spray your house down. And. And there was a story I covered where some old lady got killed because the dudes lived in the second floor in an apartment and in the back. So when they unloaded the house, the lady in the first floor got killed. Yeah, because the guys upstairs are talking smack on Snapchat. Yup. Those guys wouldn't answer the breakfast question. For those aren't familiar, it's if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt? And if their response is, but I didn't have breakfast, or but I did have breakfast, it means they can't understand a conditional hypothetical. And the response should be, if I didn't. Hungry, I guess.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or if you're someone who's, I don't eat breakfast, I'd say, well, considering I don't eat breakfast, I probably would feel the same as I always do. I don't know. There are many people. You know what? I love the conditional hypothetical thing. Just ask everybody. A conditional, you know, well, ask that reporter.

[Tate Brown]

It's like, hey, how would you feel if Trump didn't call you piggy? He did call me piggy.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean? It's probably the answer you would indeed get, average German.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, the problem is, I think it's multifaceted. First of all, it's. The criminals know that most people in our society are going to behave in a passive way, so they're going to be able to get away with it. And a big part of the reason why people will behave in a passive way is because, first of all, the justice system will prosecute you for defending yourself. If you actually, quote, unquote, win the engagement. Right. You somehow are able to come out on top and not get beaten to a pulp or you're able to defend yourself. The justice system is going to prosecute you or attempt to prosecute you like it did with Daniel Penney. And they know that, that if they're the people that are aggressing, if they're going to attack people, the justice system will not prosecute them. You've got consistently repeat offenders that are carrying out these attacks and stuff, and there's nothing that the government does. The government doesn't put them. The justice system doesn't put them in jail. They're released on bail or bond immediately. They walk right out the same day they're arrested. And so there's no downside to people that have low impulse control just behaving however they want.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, we. We've forgotten as a society that some people just don't want to be rehabilitated.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah. Some people are just crazy. And some people do intend to enact violence on others. And, you know, I had a friend in D.C. philip Todd, who. Who was subject to this.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

He was just walking down a street. I think it was around dinner time. And this guy who was released a couple days before on, I believe, First Step Back credits, just knifed him in the street, and he got knifed in the head. He was a Rand Paul staffer. You can look this up.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But is he okay or what?

[Ryan Newhouse]

He's okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ryan Newhouse]

He survived, but it was in the head. Terrible. Yeah. Tragic. Yeah. And it. It happens to more people than you think. And this was why I particularly was, like, so ecstatic about President Trump putting the national guard in D.C. agreed. Is because there were so many staffers that were getting carjacked. Yeah, right. There were so many staff that were going out at night to just go to the bar and have, you know, just a social gathering with their friends or just leaving work from the Hill and just interacting with people that only meant harm for them. There was a period of time on the Hill. I mean, people who worked with me know this. Like, I was seriously pushing for staff to be able to conceal Carry on the Hill.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Because, I mean, think about it.

[Tim Pool]

They still should be allowed to.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Exactly. They totally should. Right. I mean, the secret is, like, there is a little area in the law that actually allows them to, if a member delegates that ability.

[Tim Pool]

But the issue is, like, with a surprise attack, you're walking down the street and someone comes up behind you, you don't just spin around and draw on them. You know what I mean? So if someone. If someone is nuts and they're just gonna stab you, there's little you can do except for never let anyone walk near you. And I'm not saying draw them. I'm saying walk the other way, Turn around, face them, back off, move the other direction. And that's the sad thing is these policies have resulted in people who are saying, what is. What is the. The meme online? Would you rather be racist or dead.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or is it like, would you rather be alive and racist or what? Is it not racist and dead or something like that?

[Tate Brown]

Sentiment.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And it's. And, and it's being said by people who typically are racist, but the point they're making is what's the point of taking the chance if you're racist? Who cares if you try not to be, sooner or later someone might stab you. And I'm like, I think it's actually more so just depending on the area you're in. And there's high crime. Don't walk near people. Right. The sentiment is just like, stay away from other people. It's a scary thought. That's the world we live in. And it's because we are not a brutal people anymore. Again, correction, we are brutal to the victims. And because of that, people are scared to defend themselves. Let's. Let's jump to this story, though. The end is nigh. I hope you guys have prepared and kissed your loved ones. NASA is tracking a vast anomaly growing in Earth's magnetic field. Y' all notice that there was an aurora that reached out of Central Texas and Florida recently? A little odd. Indeed it is. I talked with Ben Davidson and fact checked this. But yes, in the last hundred years, There have been 10 Northern Lights phenomenon in the lower 48 reaching down this far into the United States. Five of them happened in the last two years. Ben Davidson argues that the Earth's magnetic field is weakening, and so solar storms, as well as standard solar activity is more likely to penetrate to the surface, causing power outages and radio problems, static interference, etc. And then we get the story. This one's actually kind of freaky. They say since 2014, there is a gigantic dent in the magnetosphere that has grown to the size of, I think it says Europe and getting bigger. So the question I have here with this story, and they say, don't worry, it won't affect life on Earth. We've seen again with these auroras, there are theories that are called kooky, that the poles may shift and this will cause a catastrophe on Earth, a cataclysm. At the same time, I wonder if there is a connection to the fact that billionaires are building mountain bunkers in New Zealand, underground in Hawaii, in Montana and Wyoming. Why are powerful people building underground mountain bunkers now? It could just be that if you got the money, why not, right? If you're sitting on billions of dollars, Elon's probably like, sure, I guess. What else are you doing with it, right? However, we Know that cash, that, that net worth isn't liquid. This would mean a billion. These billionaires are liquidating assets into cash to fund underground bunkers for themselves. What is leading them to believe they need these things? World War iii. Is that reasonable? Is there something they know about the gigantic Europe sized dent in the magnetic field? Zorani, that's true too. That's true too. Or are we facing the end of days?

[Phil Labonte]

Look, if you have means to do that, I think that that's something that's been popular for Americans for a long, long time.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Ever since, you know, ever since the dawn of the atomic age, people have been building some kind of underground bunker. If they can, they're like, oh, you know, what if the, the big one comes and they're, they're gonna drop nuclear bombs and blah, blah, blah. I think that that's something that people that have money like, I don't see the downside of it. Right.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to. I just want to point out you're.

[Phil Labonte]

Sitting on one eye.

[Tim Pool]

This story from Independent is from September of this year why tech billionaires are suddenly hoarding doomsday mega bunkers. Don't take the stripper poles out, okay? The Event is coming. The Event.

[Tate Brown]

They named it already?

[Tim Pool]

Indeed.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, the Event is a, is a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers. Well, I honestly, I think that it's a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers, they have a different concept of why they're building them. You know, it's like, well, it could be a pandemic that I have to get, you know, a pandemic that's worse than Covid. Or it could be a nuclear war. It could be the poll shift or what have you, and it doesn't really matter. I mean, I.

[Tim Pool]

Civil war.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it could be.

[Tate Brown]

Are you RCP for the Event?

[Phil Labonte]

Part of the reason. Part of the reason why I bought my place in New Hampshire is because it's 50 acres and it's tucked away in the woods. It's not. My house isn't on the road. You can't accidentally show up on my front yard. You know, it's. It's hidden away. And I bought it because should something bad happen, I've got a place to go. And when Covid hit, when I was, you know, I was up and up on the hill in New Hampshire, my life didn't change at all. Yeah. You know, it was the same from one day to the next. So.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, this is pretty epic. Look at this picture. This is another angle of the Atlas, what they do is they dig this whole thing out, place it, look at this. And then they bury it, and you get to live in there forever with no sun.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I'm not gonna lie. I'm kind of jealous. They got such a sweet bug out spot, though. Like, that's. That's.

[Tim Pool]

That is pretty cool. In fact, maybe it's just. Would be nice to have this as a house.

[Ryan Newhouse]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. What do you mean?

[Ryan Newhouse]

I don't.

[Tim Pool]

Nobody knows where you are.

[Tate Brown]

I live in the storage container.

[Phil Labonte]

You have that. It's not your house. That's just your basement. You build the house on top of it.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Oh, they do.

[Tim Pool]

They. Look, take a look at this.

[Alad Eliyahu]

There you go.

[Tim Pool]

It actually. Oh, wait. Yeah, yeah, they build on top of it and it connects down into the underground bunker. Look at. Look at this, though. Come on, you gotta. You gotta just.

[Ryan Newhouse]

The armory. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, the whole bunker is just literally an armory.

[Ryan Newhouse]

That's awesome.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, it's sick. And. And if you have access to that kind of money, why not? What's the downside?

[Tate Brown]

Like, what are you gonna do?

[Tim Pool]

The event is coming. Well, no, but this is the point I was making. The left argues, like, billionaires have all this money. No, they don't. It's not liquid. They don't have this money. Bezos gets paid $83,000 salary, and then he gets, I think, like a million in bonus in benefits. When he wants to spend cash, he takes loans out. This. This means it's not so much. And I'm not saying it's impossible or very difficult, but they're doing more than just, I got the cash lying around. No, they're taking action and liquidating assets to be able to have the cash to build these deep underground bunkers or whatever. And this one is not even an example of a particularly expensive one. Like, I'm talking, bro. They got like their stories of mountain, like planes landing inside of mountains.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Newhouse]

James Bond esque.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

You can do it super cheap. The Hasidics in Brooklyn did it and they got in a bunch of trouble for it. But that's. That's an economical option. You just dig under.

[Ryan Newhouse]

There was an underground network for a while in Covet. Huh?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And they got in trouble for it. I was like, hey, they're just prepping. Like, what's wrong? What are these?

[Ryan Newhouse]

It's kind of based. Yeah, give them credit for it.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, true.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. European mountain bunkers. Yeah. Crazy military is building them in Europe. The European military said, I, I, if you have Switzerland, if you have a bunch like that makes sense.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, you get to stock it with your arm.

[Tate Brown]

There's like one big bug out shelter.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, if you. But if you have something like that, whether it be a bunker for, you know, for. For the event or just a. A panic room, right. Someone breaks into your house, you shove your family downstairs and lock the door, wait for the police to show up, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Now what about this? Do you guys think this is true? The US spent $21 trillion to build secret underground Dubes Day bunkers for elites? This was on Tucker's show back in May and we talked about it. The dumbs, they're called the deep underground military bases. I'm just saying, man, when we see an Aurora in Texas several times in the past couple of years, you might be like, is that normal? And the truth is we are. We are much. We. We live shorter lives than the earth, you know, is old or whatever. So maybe these things happen. Aurora's happen. It's just not that often. So maybe we're overreacting. But these people may be overreacting substantially more than we are if they're spending 21 trillion. Now, maybe this lady right here is just crazy.

[Tate Brown]

No, I. It's legit. I mean, you have the. You have the aurora borealis, like all over, like the South. I mean, you have these wildfires over these earthquakes. I had a white door dash driver the other day.

[Tim Pool]

Whoa.

[Tate Brown]

Like, things are getting like, crazy.

[Tim Pool]

This is. You know, that reminds me of that 30 Rock episode. Do you guys see this one where it's. It was about Occupy Wall street and Jack Donaghy, played by everyone's favorite Alec Baldwin, gets mugged by a white guy in a button up shirt.

[Alad Eliyahu]

It's over.

[Tim Pool]

And he's like, it's. We're done.

[Tate Brown]

At the bottom.

[Tim Pool]

Sell everything. He was like, you don't understand, Lemon. He was wearing a button up shirt.

[Tate Brown]

That means you're. Yeah, you're at the bottom. So that's when you buy. If that ever happens, you buy everything.

[Tim Pool]

It's funny how that show was like pretty offensive, but nobody cared because back then, and it was funny. And then within like four years of actually while the show was still on the air, everybody got super woke.

[Tate Brown]

It's just like adjusted as it went on.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean, they, they did a bunch of racist humor and everyone laughed.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, it's like, it's like the Office. The Office could never air today.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's wild.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, it's a shame.

[Tim Pool]

Well, maybe today, maybe today it could. I mean, We've. We've.

[Ryan Newhouse]

We're breaking it open a bit.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Bro, have you been on Instagram lately? Oh, my God, dude.

[Phil Labonte]

So good.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Holy.

[Tim Pool]

All I can say is, holy what? Dude, I open up Instagram and I'm like, wow.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, they like your average Instagram feed. Like outflanks 4 channel, bro.

[Tim Pool]

I saw. I saw one video, I opened up my Instagram and it was an Android George Floyd buying kfc. And I was just like, this is cool.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Do you not get Charlie Kirk?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Cyborg too, yet? Yeah, I get them together.

[Ryan Newhouse]

They're doing.

[Tate Brown]

I'm getting high school pages. They'll make it like an Agartha high school page and judge if their teachers would make it in or not. And it's like the school assemblies right now are probably insane. They're probably doing like, like executions at these schools. Like, it's insane what these kids are posting. What? They're teachers. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And you know what happened was like, every time I bring up that Instagram keeps recommending these weird racist humor AI videos to me, people go like, you realize the algorithm is based on what you click on? I'm like, yeah, I click on them all the time. Like, I watch every single one. They're hilarious.

[Tate Brown]

I like my comment.

[Tim Pool]

There was one. I saw where it was the Olympics, and it was a bunch of. It was like a 100 meter dash through showers, and it's like white people run through and then like Asians run through and then a bunch of Indians stop and get stuck in front of it and they're like panicking. And I was like, what the. It had like a hundred thousand likes. There was another one where it was at the Olympics and there was a ladder with a pole going up to a fake roof with a smoke detector. And there are two black women changing the smoke detector. And it was like, first place in 27 seconds. And I'm just like, I can't believe Instagram is loaded with these videos. Oh, yeah, there was one where it was the. Who's the guy who got stabbed in the chest by the stingray? The. Oh, it's Steve Irwin being like, we're looking for the rare African sealing bird and he goes into a black woman's house and the smokejackers going, beep, beep. I'm like, dude, how is Instagram allowing these videos? It's just.

[Alad Eliyahu]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

It's just the floodgates are done.

[Tate Brown]

It's a containment breach.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I actually think this is a phenomenon. That is why we're seeing this Quote, unquote, rift on the right. Because, let me put it this way.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Let's, let's, let's.

[Tim Pool]

We'll give this one its own airtime. So we got these videos popping up across Instagram that people would describe as like, racist AI videos or racist humor or whatever. I think this shows the fact that these videos are allowed. That the left is so desperately beaten, not gone forever, that there's no unified enemy culturally that the right is concerned about. Movies are dropping these, these films too. Like Disney got rid of their DEI department or whatever. Yeah, Bud Light is, is cooked. Target, all of this stuff worked. And now you're allowed to, like, we can say again, you know what I mean? You're allowed to say these things. And I think now we had this period where the left was so entrenched institutionally, what with, like, you couldn't, you couldn't even say you supported Trump Europe.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If you like Vivek Ramaswamy's story, Vivek, if you didn't put a black square on your Instagram profile, they came for you. That's how insane it was. That resulted in people like me and staunch conservatives sitting down together and being like, hey, we got a problem. This also resulted in people who are pro Israel and anti Israel sitting down and saying, hey, look at that problem. But what happens when that problem is gone? These same people are at the table and they go, whoo. Now that we've solved that problem, let's get to the next most serious problem. That is we should stop funding Israel. And the other guy goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. What do you mean? I was never on board with that. I'm for funding Israel. And now you're seeing these rifts emerge on the right because there's, there's nothing else to, to be like for these individual ideological factions, what is left to defeat but their next most pressing passion? And so you're seeing the libertarians, largely, I think the right is fracturing on interventionists and anti interventionists. Neoconservative versus New Right, or whatever you want to call it.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's really a test to how unifying Charlie Kirk was, because he kept everyone focused. He was saying, okay, yes, we won. We had a good victory in the election, but we're not at the point yet where we can start, like, hashing these things out and re litigating some of these issues. We still have a lot of work to do. And he kind of was at unifying and, and for a lot of other people in the media space. He was kind of a tastemaker, these sorts of things. Once he was gone, a lot of people just lost focus right away and they forget. That's like, hey, Trump still is three years. He has a lot of work to do. It's going to take time to do a lot of these things. And people instead just went for engagement. Other, you know, it went every which way. Regardless, people lost focus right away. I think that's the primary issue is.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I mean, I mean, some of it's just that, like, we have an incredibly unique political coalition that has elected Donald Trump. Right. And it's. It's unlike anything I think we've seen in the past couple decades. I think the last time you saw a true, like middle, Middle America recognition or like class that was represented was when Pat Buchanan was really running right. In the 90s. And I think that that draws in different debates. And I think, you know, when people heard America first in 2015, when Donald Trump was running, they thought it meant America First. Right. And I think, you know, Coda Villa was. Was known for always saying that the primary concern of the statesman should be his own nation.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Especially in times of revolution.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Like international affairs should be subordinate to the domestic affairs.

[Tim Pool]

But I think what you're saying about this, this coalition was true. I just saw a clip where Anna Kasparian said she's been watching Candace Owens and I'm kind of like, yeah, did you see that clip?

[Ryan Newhouse]

That's like, I don't know who she is. Who's Anna?

[Tim Pool]

The Young Turks.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Okay.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so it's like, oh, you know, something's happening here politically. And I'm wondering if there's like a reorientation now. I mean, with obviously the Heritage foundation and the Tucker thing and then the Tucker Candace turning point. Like, there is a rift that is very obvious to everybody. These debates are happening. People are attacking Tucker for interviewing Nick. And the reason why I defend Tucker on this one, it's crazy because we've interviewed communists who have come on and advocated for Stalin esque or like Maoist.

[Phil Labonte]

They'll straight up call themselves revolutionaries. And revolutionaries are not peaceful. They're not talking about peaceful change in government.

[Tim Pool]

Right. The point is there's no outrage when I debate a Maoist, but they lose their mind when Nick goes on an interview with Tucker Carlson. And it's just like Tucker can talk with whoever he wants and he can agree with whatever he wants. Like, what is this policing, this ideological policing that is now occurring? And I think we are seeing it's What I described. Now that the shared enemy is routed, Democrats aren't gone forever. They're going further left. The question now is, who are we going to allow in our movement? And that means you're going to see certain factions be like, we don't want you here because, you know, I think it's fair to say people have different moral worldviews. You're not wrong to believe in your moral worldview and you don't want to share space with someone of an opposing moral worldview. And now that there's the greater villain is defeated, largely, they're now going to say, why am I sharing space with this person I disagree with?

[Tate Brown]

And it feels like with the Tucker rift, that was a day or two ago where Trump said he can have whoever what he wants. It's his show, like, whatever. I think that kind of settled that debate pretty much entirely.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I think through sheer, what is it, cult of personality alone, the president was able to wrangle all these disparate factions on the right. And I don't think there's another figure on the right post Trump who will be able to do so. So Trump was able to bring in these so called neocons from the past.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think it was Trump.

[Alad Eliyahu]

You don't think? I think it was totally Trump. The anti immigrant people, the Zionists, of course, Charlie Kirk. You think it was Charlie Kirk?

[Tim Pool]

I think it was Charlie Kirk. Okay, well, and I think it's not a surprise that now that Charlie's not with us anymore, we are starting to see the infighting, the bubbling up, even Trump yelling at Marjorie Taylor Greene. I mean, I think Charlie was a negotiator and a leader and he brought people together and he helped. He was diplomacy between these various factions. And without him, everyone's going in various different directions. I do think. Here's what I agree with you on a lot. Donald Trump as a character. There are all these different factions on the right that look up at Trump and say, here's what I agree with. And so that creates a sort of de facto, we're all here, we all agree we like Trump, but I believe Charlie was the one at the ground level going between each group and saying, what do you need? What can I do for you? Stick together. And without him, it's being ripped apart and people are going at each other's throats.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Sure. There was just, I'm just thinking of all these different factions too, like traditionalists, pro life, people with, you know, people who would otherwise disagree with a lot of the things he does or says willing to look past that and get on board. I don't know if somebody like a JD Vince or a Marco Rubio would be able to achieve that in the future if they. Especially when we're seeing more of these cracks in the Republican coalition. So, I mean, I feel like we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about it. A couple of weeks ago, there was a big uproar on the right from Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes. And then Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage foundation, put out a statement on Twitter defending Tucker and saying people were calling him anti Semitic, were wrong, and that he stands with Tucker firmly and strongly. There's a big uproar to that. You were, of course, the chief of staff at the time and, and defended and supported Mr. Roberts statement at the time. They kind of folded to that backlash. It led to a shake up at the Heritage Foundation. That's crazy. Included. You could you tell us a little bit more about what their thinking was behind the scenes and if they're feeling like they're caving to so called cancel culture. Culture.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I mean, I think, I think Kevin has explained himself and I don't think I need to explain anything for Dr. Roberts. Right. I think he's a good man who, you know, I don't think he's necessarily apologized for the statement. I think he stood by the fact that we should not engage in cancel culture. I mean, who's to tell a guy like Tim, who we can and can't have on a show like this, right. Like that's not our role. And I think, you know, one of the things that was occurring and, you know, Kevin talked about this on Dana Loesch, I think the day after he put out the, the statement was there are people behind the scenes that are trying to do that, that are trying to tell people who you can and cannot platform.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

And try to police speech. I mean, maybe that post World War II liberalism sentiment like prevails in some circles, but like those of us who are like actually conservatives and, and trying to conserve the ideals of the American founding, like one of those is primarily free speech. And when there's bad ideas, you hash them out and you point out what's bad about them and then you point out what's good. Right. And you redirect people towards what's correct. And I think, you know, President Trump put that in his own way the other night. Like, I think Tate was recognizing that. I mean, President Trump said himself, why would I tell Tucker Carlson who he can or can't have on a show. And I mean, you know, ironically enough, you want to talk about who's on people's shows. I mean, nobody was freaking out when Patrick bet David had Nick Fuentes on his show like a month before. Right. That doesn't mean that, like, everyone's endorsing Nick Fuentes.

[Alad Eliyahu]

His idea, just to play devil's advocate here, the thing about Tucker Carlson is that I know he can be a great journalist when he chooses to do so, but for some reason, he chooses to pick and choose who he uses kids gloves with. So, for example, when he was going at Ted Cruz, he made sure to have every question set up and ready to go. Some people would argue that he threw a lot of softballs to Nick and was using this opportunity to kind of hedge around his edges.

[Tim Pool]

And could the. Could the difference be senator versus random Internet guy?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Sure. I think he's more than a random Internet guy. Just. Have you heard that? And what do you think of somebody arguing things like that?

[Ryan Newhouse]

Have I heard that people think he put on kids gloves to. Yeah, I mean, I think that's. That's plainly like thrown out into the Internet ether. And that's a conversation. I think. You know what, Tim, saying Ted Cruz is a presidential candidate. Tucker Carlson is interviewing some random Internet guy with. With an Internet following. There's no reason to make excuses or arguments for why Tucker did what he did or didn't do. Right. All of that's up to Tucker.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

And Tucker, at the end of the day, it's his show, how he performs it and how he does it. Like, either his viewership will decline or it will increase based upon what he does. And like, who am I, some random guy in America to be like, tucker, don't do that. Right. Like, he's not going to care what I think and he doesn't need to care what I think. Right. If I don't want to watch it, I'm not going to watch it.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah. With infighting like this, do you think the MAGA coalition is sustainable?

[Ryan Newhouse]

I think it has to be. I think if not, then you lose 28 and you go to the gulags, you lose 26.

[Tim Pool]

And I think there's a possibility of it. I do think the higher probability is that as the midterms come closer, everybody starts hyper focusing. What's gonna happen is Democrats will start campaigning. They're gonna start saying crazy things. The focus in the news cycle will be Democrat promises. Insane thing they have no power to offer. And then it doesn't matter if you're pro or anti Israel, everyone's focus is gonna be that's nuts. And this will bring the right together again. However, it doesn't bode well for 28, depending on what Vance has to offer and what his position is going to be. Because you are going to get these people who are like, well Vance, are you pro Israel? And Tucker is a prominent anti Zionist personality. He's critical of Israel and he's got a big following. So if J.D. vance comes out and says we're for Israel, Tucker then says I'm not voting for you or I'm not interested in. And then his audience says no and you lose the voters you need to win.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I think, I think you're going to lose the American interest. If everything we do is debate foreign policy, right? Like the American people are purely focused on an America first agenda. They want to see an agenda, particularly Gen Z who has promised a world that they're just not seeing around them.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Ryan Newhouse]

Promised upward mobility, promised that if they go to college and get an expensive education that they would have a high paying job in a place where they want to live and raise their family and they could go buy a beautiful home with a white picket fence and have that, you know, stereotypical dog and three kids running around in the front yard.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

That's not accessible to people. And people are sick and tired of hearing all about foreign affairs, foreign relations and they just want to hear about how can you make America better. They want mass deportations. They don't want half measures. They want to stop seeing, you know, blue collar workers undermined by H1B workers.

[Tim Pool]

This is interesting. Young Gen Z 18 to 21 favor Republicans. Older Gen Z 22 to 29 are more Democratic. And it crazy that gen Z is 29 years old.

[Tate Brown]

Well and what's more remarkable is where that split is is basically Covid.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yes.

[Tate Brown]

So you have the post Covid zoomers. Pre Covid Zoomers. Pre Covid zoomers are like an extension of millennials effectively. It's the post Covid zoomers are like the really base supposedly where with post Covid zoomers they're quite literally either trans analogs effectively or they're literally like basically groipers. Like there's not much in between.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I don't know about, I don't know about that.

[Tate Brown]

Maybe not that but like I don't.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Think that, like I think there's this increasingly right wing, there's this narrative going around that like the GOP has a Nazi problem. Like that's absurd.

[Phil Labonte]

Laura Looma just tooted that. Tweeted that today.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, I mean like how absurd of an argument is that? I mean YouGov, it was like last November did polling on that question of like what is the American perspective on Hitler? And 1% of Americans, literally 1% of Americans said that they thought good things about Hitler.

[Tim Pool]

And that was just the gripers, like.

[Ryan Newhouse]

It is such a small fraction of people that even care about this.

[Alad Eliyahu]

You understand though that like I was.

[Tate Brown]

Using that by the way, like kind.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Of circle right wing circles back to though. It's like the person who Tucker was interviewing, Nick Fontes, has said good things about Hitler though, and spoken of him in a positive light. And Tucker used kids gloves when asked him about that stuff. He chose not to at all. So I guess the greater point would be while you're saying that it's only 1% of the population saying this, this guy is in an interview with Tucker where Tucker has nothing to say about it. And I think one of the greater, the bigger issue here becomes that if Fuentes becomes the face of the Republican Party, then the Republicans aren't gonna win because this guy is unpalatable to a general electorate beyond, you know, the online right frankly, and maybe small parts of the electorate, but definitely not to a general electorate in my estimation. So I think that's the, like, I don't know, is it truly 1%? Because the Internet would have me thinking something different unless I'm, I don't know, being.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I mean that's the problem is that like it's the Internet. All of this conversation is framed within the Internet. I think there's millions of Americans.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah, I'm on the right now though. I'm not going to say I love Hitler. Like and I don't think that he was a bad guy and that I look up to him and I think Stalin were great guys. Even though we're on the Internet.

[Tate Brown]

It's like yeah, I think like a lot of zoomers irl, like even if their politics, you know, are pretty far to the left, pretty far to the right, like they code very normally, there's still like a lot of normal kids. Like, like you're saying, was it Rod Dreher? He was talking about the Zoomer Staffing in D.C. he's like, he said, I estimate 30 to 40% are Groipers and I think he's using that as an analog. I think they're trying to set this trap up and they're trying to poison well advance where they're trying to say anyone that is to the right of Like, Ted Cruz is a groiper. And so, like, that's the trap that was being set up and Roger is great or whatever. But I'm just saying I don't think that 30 to 40% are like, tuning into Nick Fuentes every night. I think they're just people that are disaffected right wingers that are just kind of frustrated at the way things are moving, and so they're. They want to see more and. And they get labeled groipers. I don't think that's entirely true. So that's what I was saying earlier. I was like, to the right, they're going, I'm just saying.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Ryan, you were on the Hill before. What do you make of that estimate of 30 to 40%?

[Ryan Newhouse]

I've never met anyone that calls themselves a groiper.

[Tate Brown]

Exactly.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Like, never.

[Tim Pool]

Like, I.

[Ryan Newhouse]

It's a purely Internet term.

[Tim Pool]

It's called hiding your power level. You don't understand.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Oh, hiding, that's right.

[Tate Brown]

I don't go, well, No, I just, I just see that and I'm just so suspicious. I'm like, that's. I'm like, like, you can see it. That's what they're going to try to do is they're going to do what they did with the alt right, where they're going to use that as like a drag net for 28 when Vance is running. And they're going to say, this is. I think this is the neocon play. And they're going to try and drag.

[Tim Pool]

This is the woke right play. This is what they say, woke right.

[Tate Brown]

It's a dragnet.

[Tim Pool]

And it's, it's. They. They are proudly declaring that woke right means the same thing as alt right. It's a catchall term to excise people from the right. Yep.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

So, I mean, you're just seeing the pincer set up right now. And young people are. Yeah, again, they're. They've grown up in a world where it's like, why would you. If you're a centrist, that means you have some degree of loyalty to the system, some degree of wanting to uphold it. And if you're like, again, like a post Covid zoomer, why would you be a centrist? Like, what on, what on earth has this system done to reward you in any way whatsoever? It's. It's a total joke. So it's like, yeah, of course, people are increasingly conservative, increasingly leftists. It's like, yeah, I mean, at least the people that are on the far left are also acknowledging something's Wrong.

[Ryan Newhouse]

So someone like if you're genuinely interested in the Gen Z debate and like the direction that our nation is heading, I mean Mark Mitchell has been doing a lot of interesting polling and just kind of you know, message testing with, with Gen Z on like how they feel about these things. And one thing that's really notable is you know, Gen Z is not as concerned about like the policy debate and the press release and like the campaign sloganeering. Like they care about outcomes. And that's like when it comes to like the Epstein file conversation like we were talking about earlier.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Like the problem that comes with like after this and like why it's a continual sideshow is because there has to be accountability if there are problems. Right. And the American people just aren't used to seeing accountability from, from like the governing party right now. And Gen Z says okay, we just imported like 20 million illegal immigrants like during the Biden administration. Like who knows the actual number, right. Like the actual number is not going to be reported. But how many non citizens do we have here that were probably on the terror watch list, right. Like how many you know, PRC guys like slipped through and are now, you know, plotting an attack of some sort. Right. Like you hear about these things all the time. But like why aren't we engaging in a full on mass deportation effort? That's what people want.

[Alad Eliyahu]

You know, I don't think it's a coincidence that the Republican Congress people who have gone soft on immigration are the same Congress people who pushed the vote for the Epstein file files that is Thomas Massie and again Marjorie Taylor Greene have softened up their tones a lot on mass deportations and I don't think it's coincident.

[Tim Pool]

What does Mass said about it?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Massey says that it's not like one of his big goals and like, but is that. And he supports H1B visas. Not enough for me.

[Tate Brown]

He maintains.

[Alad Eliyahu]

And then Marjorie Taylor Greene said like oh it's impractical to, for businesses, for big businesses to get rid of all these illegal immigrants. And she recently did a media tour angling to that effect.

[Tim Pool]

I thought she was critical of Trump's H1B's.

[Alad Eliyahu]

She doesn't think that we should be deporting as many people. She doesn't think we'll be able to get deport all the illegal immigrants. And Massey supports H1B visas.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Phil Labonte]

She doesn't think that we will be able to. I'll find the direct quote that we should.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I'll find the quote.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I feel like I've heard the opposite but I Don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, right.

[Alad Eliyahu]

And I think they're. No, because they're counter signal.

[Tim Pool]

Trump came out and said, we're going to give H1BS and we're going to do Chinese visas. And Marjorie was like, no, I thought that she took the other. I thought that's what. Trump got mad at her. He was like, oh, you know, she's texting me about this. Just what do you say? She keeps, she keeps calling me. And then Marjorie was like, no, I texted him about it. One thing.

[Tate Brown]

And it's like, regardless of the GOP with young right wing guys, the priority is immigration. That's like what we see. That's what's affecting us directly. And a lot of people, like, will come onto the show or they'll go into the zeitgeist in general and they're like, the deficit's the biggest issue. And it's like, I get that, but it's, that's not how you, like, win. I mean, the America party, that was the whole idea is like, worry about money. And it's like, dude, we're like, like, Costco is a disaster.

[Tim Pool]

I was, I was thinking about our costs here and, you know, I started to look into it and I realized that if I replaced, you know, Phil Elad and Tate with H1BS from India, the show would be a lot cheaper to run and surge, of course, and would be a very, very interesting political show that, you know, I, I think would be worth pursuing crime. Just. We, we actually had a, we had a joke about this a few years ago where we wanted to open. Actually, we can do this with AI now. The only problem, you know what really, really is messed up about the AI stuff like sora, is I'm Tim Pool and I own the rights to this. And when I go to SORA and say, like, make an episode of irl, like I put a video in of me, it's like, this is copyright protected. It won't let me do it. And I'm like, it's me, it's me. But, you know, so I get the.

[Phil Labonte]

Same thing when it comes to all. It remains music, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. Detected. I'm like, I own it.

[Alad Eliyahu]

So the recent comments I was referring to with Marjorie Taylor Greene was her criticizing the ways that the immigration raids are going to. She's saying that there needs to be a more humane way to conduct ICE raids. This was her criticism.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, well, that's, that's different than, than saying that she doesn't support deportations. There is more, but because to be honest, with you. I mean, I. People might say the same thing about me. While I, I don't agree with her, I do think that the optics of the ICE raids, she said, end up causing problems for actually deporting people because you get squishy, left leaning liberal women get out there, scream and yell because. Because it looks like you're hurting.

[Tim Pool]

I also have this. I also have this quote about Marjorie Taylor and the rift, talking about how the Epstein rift and she said, quote, this has been one of the most destructive things to. MAGA is watching the man we supported early on three elections oppose the bill. She told reporters. Watching this actually turn into a fight has ripped Megh apart and a lot. Elia, who has no idea what he's talking about. The last part I made up, just so you guys are aware.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Okay. So she also said as a business owner in the construction industry, that we need to be realists about labor and creative a smarter plan in the business industry and the labor and the construction industry around immigration. So she's virtue. She's virtue, signaling that we're trying to aggressively to deport illegal immigrants from construction sites. In particular. She came up in the construction business. Her family has a lot of construction business.

[Tim Pool]

Is it. Is it against the rules of YouTube for me to say we should deport a lot?

[Alad Eliyahu]

Why. Why would you want to deport me, Tim?

[Tim Pool]

Back to Israel just for the comedy?

[Alad Eliyahu]

I'm from Long island, baby.

[Tim Pool]

Just for.

[Phil Labonte]

Just for the lulz.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I'm from Long Island. I think I'm just as American as apple pie.

[Tim Pool]

Send you back to New York. Staten island wants to secede from New York.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Sure. Nobody gives a crap about Staten Island.

[Tim Pool]

Agreed. So they should be able to secede from New York.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Nag about it.

[Tim Pool]

They don't want to be part of Kami Mamdani's utopia.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, you can go to Staten Island. You lose the impractical jokers and you'll be regretting that.

[Alad Eliyahu]

All of this rhetoric about deporting me and heritage Americans and what it means to be an American, it makes me think I might be first in the camp. If we build them. I don't know if we're. What is an American? What makes somebody an American citizen? Tim Sears talking about deporting me. I thought he was hiding me in the attic. If shit hit the fan, I guess I'm first in the chambers. People like to say, oh, I'm first in the Gulag. No, no, no, I'm seriously.

[Tate Brown]

You'll be like near the end.

[Alad Eliyahu]

And they're saying Ryan is probably going to be the first one to take me.

[Tim Pool]

You misunderstand.

[Alad Eliyahu]

That's what I'm reading about him.

[Tim Pool]

When it hits the fan, I'm gonna be sitting with Tate going, wait for the grill. And you're gonna be sitting there with a stone cold look on your face.

[Alad Eliyahu]

No, no. Everybody knows I really pull the strings here.

[Tate Brown]

You'll be one of the last. We love you so much. When they start the Heritage American RE education camp, she'll be like, worry a.

[Tim Pool]

Lot under the floorboards.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Okay, good.

[Tim Pool]

And then that'll be more the scene where you're looking up at the feet and then you can run through the fields. You know, we'll make sure you get away.

[Tate Brown]

All right, There's a vow everything, by the way.

[Tim Pool]

I'm saying we'll protect our.

[Tate Brown]

We're going to protect our friend.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Tate Brown]

It's safe under the floor, but there's a shelter down there.

[Tim Pool]

We'll do is we're going to shave his mustache and head and then teach him how to speak with a southern accent. And then, you know. Although, although, although. To be fair, Sean did think you were Indian.

[Alad Eliyahu]

You know, that's the first time I got that. I. Let's not get into Sean.

[Tim Pool]

All right, everybody, we're gonna go to your chats and rumble rants. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. The uncensored portion of the show, of course, is coming up at [e-mail] timcast irl. Before we get into those chats, we got a great sponsor for you. It is Bearskin. Go to B A E R dot skin slash. Tim, get your bearskin hoodie now before it's too late. Winter. Is it coming? You guys already know about the bearskin hoodie. We've talked about it quite a bit. I've worn it on the show quite many time. Well, if you've been waiting to get yourself one, now is the time. It's officially hoodie season. Cold mornings, windy days. Actually, I had to walk through cold rain. And I'm glad I had my. My hoodie here with me today. And right now, Bearskin is running their biggest deal of the year. 60% off for this Black Friday and Cyber Monday. It's not some old fleece. This thing's built with 340gsm bearskin fleece, 10 pockets, a rugged, athletic fit that actually looks good on you. Plus, if it starts pouring, you can zip on the heavy storm rain jacket and instantly level up to full waterproof protection. You get free US shipping from their US warehouse and gear the last you season after season. So here's what, here's what you do to get the 60 off. Text Tim to 36912 again that's Tim to 36912 and they'll text you a link so you can lock in your 60% off before the sale disappears. Don't wait. Get it now with the Black Black Friday deal. And you'll also be supporting the Fallen Outdoors and Hope for the warriors veterans program. So you're not just buying great gear, you're backing a cause that matters. Check it out. Text Tim 236912 Shout out Bearskin thanks for sponsoring the show. And don't Forget, go to Timcast.com and click Join us because community is our strength and with you by our side, we will be unstoppable. They say diversity is our strength because they want to divide and conquer. But as a member of the Discord community there are early shows, pre shows, after shows, community events, the 6pm Tim cast, IRL, co host, VIP stream as well as the Friday Backstage pass hang out while we're doing all the pre production and you get to call in to this show's uncensored portion and talk to us and our guests. Unity is everything if we're going to win. And when you join, I'll say this, some people have actually gotten married, met each other in the Discord. Can't guarantee it, but support our [e-mail] all right, let's see what y' all have to say. We got some great questions here. Kremit says, Phil, do you think James Lindsay will regret his lies and commie style propaganda if he helps Dems get back in power? He's trying to balance a scale with the fate of the country on the line. Reckless.

[Phil Labonte]

I have no idea or no claim to what James Lindsay is thinking nowadays.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I'm a Marxist plant, apparently.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's, it's silly.

[Tim Pool]

And then he denied he said it. It's the weirdest. It's like it's, it's psychobabble.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I never said that. And I'm like, here's a screenshot of him. He said possibly a plant. Marxists always lie or something like that.

[Phil Labonte]

I still think that, that Jim has done a lot of important work in the past and I'm very, very thankful that, that, that he had a time where he was, you know, being very vocal about the left and stuff. I do think that his, his, his, his estimations now are, are off base.

[Tim Pool]

I Think he's.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not sure what, where, why he's behaving the way that he is.

[Tim Pool]

It's pretty simple, actually. I think he's anti Israel.

[Alad Eliyahu]

So.

[Tim Pool]

But you laugh. But here's what's funny. You can't pinpoint what he's doing. It seems incoherent, right?

[Phil Labonte]

To a degree, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

His track record is infiltrating organizations, utilize their. Create arguments that make them look like idiots and then trick them into publishing them. He has done this over and over again. It is his claim to fame. Now he is seemingly aligned with the pro Israel side, saying the stupidest garbled nonsense imaginable. He called Mary Morgan a woke right.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Mary talks about dating and pop culture. It's just incoherent psychobabble. When you, Phil, who've watched him are saying, I don't understand what he's saying, I think it's clear to say the simple solution is a man who intentionally infiltrates groups to present a fake argument that makes them look bad is probably doing the same thing right now. Because the pro Israel side, like when you look at Constantine Kyson and Seth Dillon and they're saying woke right means people who believe that Jews are oppressing them, you're like, I understand the point you're making. When James Lindsay comes out and then says, I should be in charge of the national movement and conservatives are bad and Mary is woke right. You go, this guy seems insane. These people that are claiming woke right are nuts. And that's basically been what he's doing. He's doing effectively the same thing he did to academia, but to the neocon pro Israel conservative, like. Right.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I think he's describing like traditionalists as that. Like.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, look, I think if you look.

[Tim Pool]

At what you don't want him on your side a lot. That's the point.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I think he's gatekeeping. Yeah, I think.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I think the maybe, maybe gatekeeping is, is kind of accurate. I think that, that he is looking at the pendulum that has swung to the right and he still considers himself a liberal and he thinks that too much influence from the, from the right will be a bad thing for liberalism in the United States. And I think that he doesn't want to see liberalism fall out of favor. I think that he want.

[Tim Pool]

He still.

[Phil Labonte]

That liberalism is the proper political ideology.

[Tim Pool]

And liberals are anti Israel.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, it depends. Liberal. I think he's, I think he's talking about what would, what you would call.

[Tim Pool]

Class a traditional liberal who was like, wasn't like a Polyamorous relationship or something is now all of a sudden aligned with neocons. I don't believe it. I think if you put him and a neocon in a room 15 years ago, they'd be arguing the whole time. So it's surprising now that, once again, the guy's famous for infiltrating groups, is aligning himself with neoconservative, pro Israel groups and making them look like they're retarded. I think it's just like, guys, this is what he does. Why are you acting like all of a sudden he's just incoherent? The man, historically has been. He infiltrates the left, makes them publish an incoherent argument, and then everyone makes fun of them for saying something dumb. And now he's got neocons doing it, and everyone's like, he's serious. I'm like, no, he's just anti Israel. And that's. And that's fine. He's allowed to be. Let's read some more super chats. All right. I identify as tax exempt, says do. Does the Epstein files release include the files from the intelligence agencies? I believe it's technically supposed to. Whether it will, that's another question.

[Alad Eliyahu]

So a couple of things on those Epstein files that are being released, I believe that they are different judiciaries in New York, in Florida, that have their own associated Epstein files that will not be included in this legislative Epstein file drop. There's also the Jeffrey Epstein estate that has separate documents. So I suspect, again, we will be seeing a drip of more Epstein info in the future. And this is not the end of it. It'll never be the end of it.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Sinek says if redactions can only be for national security, if whatever they release as any red, redactions, that is essentially confirmed this was some CIA Mossad blackmail scandal, and our government allowed children to be abused. That is a huge leap.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

For all we know, it could be their aliens and they're redacting it because aliens were kidnapping kids. I mean, I think it's. Your scenario is more likely. But if there are redactions for national security, it could be because there's a name of an agent that's passively mentioned because they provided some evidence in the file. So put it this way. They could say, I spoke with agent redacted about information they provided from a witness who had at one point been working with an associate of Epstein's. That doesn't mean the redaction proves the intelligent agent was involved. So there's there's likely going to be redactions in that regard. It's not a guarantee. All right. Rager says. I firmly think he says McGee. He puts emphasis on the E part, not on the P like usually would. Plus, she's skinny and Trump isn't blind. It looks like McGee.

[Phil Labonte]

Piggy's more fun.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, what was her name? Her name was. Was Lucy. Was Catherine Lucy.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Why would he say McGee? And people are claiming it's Peggy. I'm like, no, her name is Catherine Lucy. I'm going with Piggy going, yeah, Piggy is hilarious.

[Tate Brown]

Long on Piggy.

[Tim Pool]

What is, Is anyone at this point not going to vote for Trump because he called a woman Piggy? No, I don't. I don't think one guy's like, what?

[Alad Eliyahu]

I'll never be on the ball.

[Donald Trump]

That's it.

[Tim Pool]

Poppins Patches says Tim often talks about how bad and brain dead kids shows are and he's absolutely right. But I would encourage you and your wife sample bluey. It is a very good exception to the rule. Pro family. My child will not be watching anthropomorphized animals. That's not, that's. No, she's going to watch 90 Day Fiance and the Five.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Don't forget the View.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, boy.

[Tim Pool]

No, My daughter literally watches only 90 Day Fiance and the 5 5. No way. Okay, so when my, my wife is watching TV, she watches 90 Day Fiance. I call it Married to Strangers. And then when I come in, I turn the five on and so she's not really watching. But this is what's on the tv. Yeah, we're not going to do any kids content. This psychobabble hallucinogenic DMT trip cartoon stuff for kids is nuts and a bad idea. And that's why we got a bunch of trans furries running around. I'm not joking, dude. Not good for your kids.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I like that theory.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's true. I think, I think children are trying to emulate and, and create an identity and they're looking to people around them and parents put them in front of TVs or tablets where all of the interaction communication is coming from anthropomorphized animals. And then we get the. When they get older, furries aren't dressing like animals, they're dressing like cartoon animals. They identify as a cartoon animal. And I think, think obvious people go, tim, not everybody does that. Of course not everybody. Some are affected by it, some aren't. That's just it. I think that's true. None of that Stuff is bad for kids. Bad for kids. All right, let's grab some more of a super chats again. Smash that, like button. What do we got? Wyatt Kaldenberg says after JFK's death, the Dems got a huge sympathy vote. The neocons falsely blamed the 1964 election on Barry Goldwater and the populist right. And purge to the right. We are in the middle of another purge. Well, okay. It was a long time ago. I wouldn't know. Arsenic says Muslim Americans who backed Trump three times and rallied others. This is normal politics. People return when they need you. Join any fight only if it aligns with what you believe and will make America better. This is what Democrats are doing. The reason why they're attacking white people is because they're basically like, hey, you know that group of white people? How do I get Latinos is, you know, Muslims, Asians, black people to come together. What do I offer them? White people. Bad. None of you like white people. Okay, good. That's the offer. That's why left has gone that route, because they're trying to build a coalition of various minorities, and the only thing you can offer them as a lowest common denominator is another group to hate. And then I guess the left argues that the right is arguing minorities as a whole or whatever. All right, that one gamer says there's more drugs coming from Mexico and Colombia than Venezuela. Mexico is asking for help from the us, Russia, etcetera, To fight cartels. Thoughts on actually doing good instead of another Iraqi oil run? Did you guys see that? Like, the Mexican president was attacking a senator who said that the intervention from Trump would be good. And she said this is what she called treason or something, that a senator was calling for a foreign intervention into their own country.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, not to mention she had, like, the auspice around her election was weird. She got in. There was, like, tons of political assassinations leading up to her, you know, when. And, yeah, the environment in Mexico is crying out, I think, for some sort of intervention, I would say. I mean, row doctrine, that's our neighborhood.

[Phil Labonte]

If you've got. If you.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Was that Monroe 2.0?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, if. Look, if you. If you've got a narco government at your southern border that continues to funnel in people and drugs and stuff, it is a national security threat. Yeah.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I think the thing that this call, the super chatter was hinting on, though, is that the drug problem mostly isn't coming from Venezuela, although Venezuela may be sending some drugs, but the administration is having a disproportionate Response to that. I know one of their reasons for attacking all these drug boats have been the drug issue, allegedly. But many other people think that they're just trying to overthrow and apply pressure to the Maduro regime, which they consistently call illegitimate and say that he is illegitimate. If and narco dictator, narco terrorist.

[Tate Brown]

It's also justified. It's in our neighborhood. They cause a lot of problems. I mean, like, there's so many documentaries like exposing these CCP camps that are in Venezuela. And they train these people to come up through, like, you shut that down, that's gonna alleviate a lot of these illegal immigration problems. Cause they again, Venezuela AIDS a lot of these caravans that come in. Granted, the Darien Gap's been like. The crossings across the Darien Gap has been wild, which is remarkable.

[Alad Eliyahu]

But I totally agree that Venezuela requires some intervention. But I just think it's fascinating because the people who would us bitch about neocons are still supportive of us being involved in Venezuela, which again, by the way, I am fully supportive of.

[Tim Pool]

There's.

[Ryan Newhouse]

There's nuance there though, right into it. It's about primacy in our. In our hemisphere.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Between 2021 and 2023, more Americans died from opioids than World War I, Korea and Vietnam.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Correct. But we're not getting the heroin. And fentanyl is mostly not coming from Venezuela. It's coming from Colombia and Mexico. So when it comes to Venezuela in particular, this isn't particularly about drugs. Most of the drugs that are coming into this country via the southern border are not coming from Venezuela.

[Tim Pool]

From China.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah, China.

[Alad Eliyahu]

China to Colombia to Mexico.

[Ryan Newhouse]

But again, the point is like, they're hitting drug traffickers on boats in the ocean. Like that's what they're doing. They're not. They're not going and like ransacking the capital of Venezuela.

[Tate Brown]

Venezuela is an outpost.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Well, it's also one of the big reasons that we would invade Venezuela or encouraging them to overthrow the Maduro regime is about oil. It's totally about oil and the markets, the global commodity of oil and trying to discourage Russian oil from exporting further. If we could decrease the price of oil because they have the biggest reserves.

[Tate Brown]

In the southern hemisphere, the geopolitical incentive is way stronger than the like, resource incentive. Like, there's no question about that. It's like, if it was about oil, we would have invaded.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I just think when people use a long time ago.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Well, I think we have been before.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry. We would have.

[Alad Eliyahu]

We would have never left.

[Tim Pool]

Obama would have. If it was just Oil. But let's. And. And things have. I don't think people realize that, you know, what, 12 years ago, Venezuela was US visa on entry.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

The tensions were not this crazy. You could just show up. You didn't need a visa. You could. You could literally just walk to the border, be like, hi. And they'd be like, welcome in.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But it was getting crazy.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And neocon is someone like, obsessed with Iran. Your own neighborhood's a.

[Alad Eliyahu]

All right. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

We got Marine. Marine 98 says, didn't a judge dictate that the DOJ could only release certain portions of the Epstein files? How is that going to work with Congress? Pass. With Congress. Pass and release everything. A judge going to say that Trump can't release the files. The Congress approved. That's interesting because Congress should have the final say. But a judge is supposed to provide a check. One theory is that Trump is saying, fine, release it because he knows the judges are going to be like, we won't let this come out. And then Trump takes the heat off himself by being like I said to release it. And we all voted for it.

[Ryan Newhouse]

It.

[Tim Pool]

And then a judge blocked it. Don't look at me. All right, we got Mike, London coast. He says, I feel that TP USA are upset with your comments because they did have something to do with Kirk's death. It's called a guilty conscience. I don't. I don't think that's the case.

[Alad Eliyahu]

You had something to do with it?

[Tim Pool]

No, they're saying TPA did.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

They're saying that would be more comments. Is saying that the reason Turning Points mad at me is because they were involved. I don't think that's true. There was a video people keep sending me where it's a guy going over turning points. 990 forms. And this is why I. I'm sorry. I can't stand conspiracy videos. So this guy goes, the. The filings for this year are missing. They're. They're not missing. It's unavailable. There's a difference. Missing would imply that they should be there and they're not. Or that it. It. It implies this is strange. Missing. This.

[Phil Labonte]

They.

[Tim Pool]

What's going on. Unavailable could just mean that they filed in October. It's been about one month. They've not yet been posted in these networks. There. There is an interesting point that these videos have been bringing up. A bunch of podcasts are popping about. About popping up about their 990s. Because the theory. I think this largely stems from Candace saying that Charlie wanted a Doge Style audit a week before they. That he was murdered. And now their, their, their tax filings didn't come in in October or something for the first time. This is what one of the arguments is. For the first time, they. Every year they filed 4, 990 forms, nonprofit tax forms. May 15th. This year, they missed it. So it was an October extension that's not yet in. He goes, they're missing. And I'm like, no, they're just not yet available. I don't know. We don't know what that means, but that's why I can't stand. And then he goes, charlie said he wanted a Doge Style audit, but Tyler Bower said that, that they do an audit every year. So he's saying they're not going to do it, and they're defying Charlie's wishes. And I'm like, no, no, he literally didn't say that. He said they do the audit every year. And so that's why I'm like, guys, there are some interesting questions about why these various Turning Point entities were funneling money through each other. One of the things people brought up is that I don't know if this is true or not, but one of the arguments is that they created there's Turning Point Turning Point Action, Turning Point Endowment and America's Turning Point Point, and they were moving money between them. Some of this is totally legit normal. But there's one of these podcasts saying Charlie was getting a salary from each of them around a quarter million to $300,000. Meaning that if you, if you looked at the 990 filings for TPUSA, you'd see Charlie getting 300,000 because you didn't know these other entities existed. But if you looked at him, you'd see Charlie was actually making over a million. I don't know if that's true, and I don't know what the point is that they're bringing it up to insinuate about Charlie, but I certainly think he deserved to get paid from his own company. But as to the greater point, we didn't talk about it. And we'll talk a little bit about it in the uncensored portion of the show. But the latest update, because I'm not trying to be big on drama, but we were not invited back to Amfest. And so there was some, I guess, back and forth drama, whatever you want to call it. And then ultimately I decided I had to pull the trigger on what our plans were for the end of the year. And so I was going to make a video explaining that we weren't invited. They have since said, no, like, please, we want you to come. And they're trying to get us to come. There's a lot more details involved in this, I think, in all, like, we're not going to be there. But I do want to be fair and just mention that many people have reached out to me saying that they're clearing a space for us. They're going to move speakers. The long story short is there's a lot to the story. I was told that I'd made hurtful comments, so they weren't going to have us back. Whatever those comments were. I don't know. I mean, I have a general idea, but I don't think that makes sense that they were hurtful. And then they booked people in the slot we were going to have, so we weren't coming. And then only recently decided, maybe we should move these speakers and reopen the slot. But I'm like, this is weird. This is crazy. Like, I. I can't do this. And we're less than a month out. There's not going to be hotels. I can't spend 20 grand in late. Like, we've tried really hard. And now I think the response we're getting in terms of, no, no, we'll have you there is largely due to potential negativity around the event and why invited. And I was asked by many people not to talk about it when the issue had come up that we weren't yet invited. And I was told constantly, just, just wait, just wait. Just wait until it's less than a month away. And that was explicitly told, well, you know, we weren't planning on having you back because you made hurtful comments. And I'm like, okay, guys, just tell me that, and I'm gone. I think they didn't want me to do a video and be like, hey, guys, here's what's happening. We're not going to be there. I know that we promoted the event, told people to buy tickets, but we're not there here. I'll go into greater detail in the uncensored portion of the show. So I'll say that there because I'm not trying to do a big drama thing. The reason I did video is because I thought it was important that as we had promoted the event, us not being there was important for anybody who expected to see us there. And, you know, I recommend you guys go, don't let us stand in the way of whatever that is. So let's grab some more. The Coco Nino says. Tim solution to housing and wealth gain at all. Sales of homes to first time home buyers pay zero tax, no income, no capital gains. Construction becomes profitable overnight. The problem. So one of the issues is supply where we are. It's crazy that they're building a mass amount of houses and we have no idea who's supposed to move into them. Yeah, this is really weird. I mean Trump's curtailed immigration and the birth rate is down. So why are they building houses? I think the Fed is likely giving funds to construction companies to build houses to prop up the economy. I think it's, it's a big scheme to create fake jobs. This is, this is going to lend itself to inflation because they're injecting money into the system. But I don't understand how they're building as many houses as they're building.

[Alad Eliyahu]

I guess the, I think the idea they're bring down prices.

[Tim Pool]

I think the idea is the Fed gives, creates money upon the issuance of debt to a construction company alone which they can use to hire people to build a house so those people have cash and then go to the grocery store. And this creates an artificial lubrication in the economy. I think to be fair, it is true that we are constrained on supply for housing.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah, I think both a lot of the demand side that they're trying to solve, it really comes down to supply because we could change how the mortgage is done and whatnot. But if the supply stays the same, then prices will not go down.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I mean a lot of the supply side problem will be solved by mass, mass deportations.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Totally.

[Ryan Newhouse]

And then like there's incentives that, that have to come into play. I mean we should be thinking about what kind of housing do we want developers to build because they're being incentivized to build the wrong kinds of things. I mean everybody's thinking in high rises, not homes. Right. And then like I think to, to the super chat, you know, point like I think that's an interesting idea. I think there should be more creative solutions that were thrown at the wall and seeing what sticks right now on like for first time home buyers, I mean should they be at the front of the line and considerations as it pertains to state law for like purchasing homes. Why are corporate entities getting.

[Tim Pool]

I got an idea.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Instead of snap, how about you get a tax deduction commensurate with what you would have received for food benefits? We don't give you money, we just don't take taxes from you. That means you have to work and you get to keep more of your money if you need it. I suppose the problem is people at poverty are paying zero taxes anyway, Right? And I think a system like this is inherently problematic when only the hardest working people are paying the taxes for everybody else. You have a guaranteed breakdown of the system where people eventually say, there is a diminishing return on my labor, and then high merit people stop working and low merit people keep demanding from the system. And then it pops.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And there you go. All right, what do we got? Eric Miller says, how you know it's a cult. Trump calls a reporter piggy. The entire mainstream media squeals. So true. I mean, it's a good point. That's what I was saying. They got the call. The media was like, this is our story. Everybody run with it. To be fair, I did too. I saw that story and it was going viral. I guess I'll make a video about it. And I laughed and said, trump is right. And I said, is it presidential for Trump to call a reporter piggy?

[Tate Brown]

I say, yes, it is now.

[Phil Labonte]

It's Trumpian, that's for sure.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we need to be a bit more brutal of a people.

[Tate Brown]

So true.

[Alad Eliyahu]

When Trump does something, it makes it presidential. So the answer to the question is, yes, it is.

[Tate Brown]

McDonald's is aristocratic now.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Sorry.

[Tate Brown]

What are you gonna do?

[Phil Labonte]

Don't apologize.

[Tate Brown]

It's true.

[Tim Pool]

Malayal mama says the process at Ellis island was often two hours long and quite extensive. Check out some of the questions they'd asked. Dems would be aghast. Okay, questions. Actually, let's do this. Let's ask our friend Grack. Grack's fast.

[Phil Labonte]

What were some of the questions asked at Ellis Island?

[Tim Pool]

Let's find out. Let's see. From 1892 to 1954. What is your name? How old are you? Male or female? Oh, already by question three, the Democrats are losing it. Single? Married? Widow? Divorce? Occupation? Can you read or write? Wow. What's your nationality? What's your race? Where were you born? Last permanent residence? Who paid for your passage? What's your final destination? Nearest relative? How much money do you have? Show it. Wow. Have you ever been in the States before? Are you going to join a friend or relative? Are you a polygamist? Are you an anarchist? Have you been convicted of a crime? Have you been to prison? What is your physical and mental health condition? Do you have any deformities? Are you crippled or otherwise physically defective? What's your height? Complexion, color, hair and eyes? Identifying marks? By whom Are you invited? Do you have. Have A contract to work here arranged.

[Tate Brown]

This is just me on a date. This is. You deformed. What's, like, what's, what's your raise?

[Tim Pool]

Are you crippled? Yeah. What's your race? Are, Are you Indian?

[Tate Brown]

You have money? Show me.

[Tim Pool]

I wonder. Show me. I wonder how many AI meet you.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I wonder how many of those questions today Americans would say they would support being asked.

[Tim Pool]

All of them, except for the Democrats being like, what does male and female even mean? I mean, how do you ask someone that? You have to assume their gender.

[Phil Labonte]

Republicans have to be fine with all of the questions. And Democrats would be like, oh, no, all those are racist. All those are hurt.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah, I thought they'd be more patriotic. Frankly, I'm relatively unimpressed.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm, I'm.

[Ryan Newhouse]

I wonder if there was like, I.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Thought there would be a loyalty pledge or something like that in there.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm disappointed that they didn't ask about communism. They only asked.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Yeah, only anarchy.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Well, this is for entry, not citizenship.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Alad Eliyahu]

And like, also, I don't what conflicts were going on. It's like, are you coming from X, y or Z?

[Tate Brown]

1880S communism was even really like in the zeitgeist as much.

[Tim Pool]

So, my friends, we are going to go to that uncensored portion of the [e-mail] Timcast IRL smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, it's gonna be a hoot. We're gonna talk about things that are not so family friendly, but always fun and funny. And you as members of the Timcast Discord can call in to talk to us and our guest. You can follow me on X and Instagram. Timcast. Sir, would you like to shout anything out?

[Ryan Newhouse]

Shout anything out. I'll shout out my Twitter. You guys can follow me. And the controversies that everybody likes to talk about. Ryan M Newhouse. N E U H A U US Right on.

[Tate Brown]

You can follow me on X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown. For the record, for posterity, I don't think a lot should be deported. I love a lot. He's the greatest one.

[Ryan Newhouse]

Seems like a pretty good dude.

[Tim Pool]

You've convinced me.

[Tate Brown]

Tight Re education is still on the table, but deportation.

[Alad Eliyahu]

If I get deported, are you bringing me back on the H1B?

[Tate Brown]

That's right, that's right, that's right.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Tim officially endorses H1B visas.

[Tate Brown]

You can be 01. I think you're that great. But also weekends, me and Connor Tomlinson, we have our show for the culture war across the pond. We had 30 minutes of English news British news, rather 30 minutes of American news. And then we do a interview on Sunday. So be on the lookout this weekend. We're gonna have a great show for you, freshen up the presentation a little bit. So I think you guys are gonna enjoy. So keep an eye on that.

[Tim Pool]

And they're best friends.

[Tate Brown]

It's true. Many are saying.

[Alad Eliyahu]

Thank you guys for tuning in. My name is Alad Eliyahu. I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast. You can find me Aladaliyahu on all the social media platforms.

[Phil Labonte]

For Phil, I am Phil. That remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. We just did a drop with Puck Hockey. That's P U C K H C K Y. Got some really cool merch available, some hockey jerseys and all that kind of stuff. You can check it out@puck hockey.com the band is all that remains. You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

We will see you [e-mail] Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out up.